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do we're live fighter and the kid uh Sands kid. | ||
Brendan Schaub's here. | ||
Sands the kid. | ||
Sands the kid. | ||
No, we're not mad at Brian Callen. | ||
We love Brian Callen. | ||
Brian Callen's just in New York working. | ||
So save it, Twitter trolls. | ||
Save it. | ||
Settle down. | ||
Something must have happened. | ||
Eddie Bravo. | ||
Eddie Brahe's here. | ||
No, Eddie Bravo and Brendan Schaub are not upset at each other. | ||
Stop it. | ||
Stop it, Twitter trolls. | ||
Twitter trolls are fucking crazy. | ||
Try so hard. | ||
They hate each other. | ||
Look at the way they look at each other. | ||
I saw the way he looked at them when he said that. | ||
They hate each other. | ||
Meanwhile, we're like, how's your son? | ||
How's your kids? | ||
Who loves each other? | ||
We're talking about the love of our lives. | ||
For real? | ||
Off camera. | ||
People, they hate each other. | ||
Shout out to the Colorado Springs Fire Department. | ||
Donald Cowboy Cerrone's dad gave me this shirt. | ||
Sick. | ||
Cowboy's dad works for the Colorado Springs Fire Department. | ||
Colorado in the house, son. | ||
I will say that I'm a little jelly. | ||
I think it feels like you're trying to take Joe away from me. | ||
You know what I mean? | ||
It feels like that. | ||
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Rogan? | |
It feels like that to me. | ||
I don't want to say nothing. | ||
I don't want to talk about it. | ||
Isn't that like high school where your new friend gets a friend? | ||
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Yeah. | |
He's mad because he's trying to take him from him. | ||
That becomes a real issue with people. | ||
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For real. | |
Like fucking grown men sometimes. | ||
You know, bro, I mean, you're hanging around with him all the time. | ||
I mean, I just wonder. | ||
I wonder, bro, what the fuck's going on? | ||
I mean, what's happening with our friendship, man? | ||
I've had this conversation recently with an older friend. | ||
Oh, no. | ||
You know, it's also when dudes get older and shit gets stale in their life, you know, people start getting real desperate. | ||
They get real weird. | ||
If you know a dude who has a job that he doesn't enjoy and he's been doing it for a long time and he's in a relationship that's not real, a whole lot of fun, and, you know, you stop hanging around with him a little bit, it's like, oh my god, like, everything's going dark. | ||
Yeah, man. | ||
Everything's going dark. | ||
Where's the fun? | ||
Where's the fucking fun? | ||
Where's the fun? | ||
There's no fun! | ||
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Can't hang out. | |
It seems like nowadays with Instagram, The way it's set up in Facebook you can't fucking talk as much shit as you could like eight years ago on the internet when it was like it was like it was cool to have like some stupid screen name like you know red dog 283 or something like that and you're just anonymous there's still some of that like on the underground you know a lot of anonymous dudes there they're like secret private guys see they're sort of anonymous but the problem is their IP addresses are known like you're not really that it's you're only anonymous if | ||
someone doesn't look No one's anonymous anymore. | ||
If you're posting things, yeah, you might think you are, but even if you're going behind a couple proxies, it's just not hard to find you. | ||
It's a weird world. | ||
There was a guy that was a troll on Reddit. | ||
It's a famous story because he was a real nasty guy, apparently. | ||
They found out where he worked. | ||
These people went after him. | ||
They found out where he worked. | ||
They found out who the guy is, and they got him fired. | ||
Jesus. | ||
He got fired from his job because his fun shit, what he would like to do is he... | ||
I mean, if you looked at it from a psychological point of view, you would say, this guy's all bent up and held back at work, and he has some anger issues, and he gets online, and through this anonymous account, he does a lot of mean shit, and he goes after people. | ||
From work? | ||
Yeah, yeah. | ||
I think he... | ||
I don't remember the whole story. | ||
I'd rather him do that than shoot a place up. | ||
I mean, who knows what level? | ||
I mean, that might not be the choice. | ||
It might be just he's an asshole. | ||
You'd be surprised. | ||
But my point is, they found this guy. | ||
They found this guy and they got him fired. | ||
And that's just what they can do today. | ||
Do you see that nine-year-old? | ||
What happened with the nine-year-old? | ||
The nine-year-old from getting bullied at school and on the line committed suicide? | ||
Nine, kids. | ||
Fucking nine. | ||
That is so crazy. | ||
I wasn't even smart enough at nine to figure out how to hang yourself. | ||
Yeah, but you know what? | ||
The CIA should go after those people instead of fucking terrorists. | ||
It's true. | ||
They are terrorists. | ||
I mean, they are going after some people. | ||
They went after that one kid. | ||
There was a kid who was a roommate in college with a kid who was gay. | ||
And he knew his friend was gay, so he set up a camera and filmed his friend having sex with a guy. | ||
And I don't know if he blackmailed him or said something, and the guy wound up killing himself. | ||
So now he's on trial for, I think, I don't know what they're saying, manslaughter maybe? | ||
Some new shit. | ||
Something awful. | ||
There was a similar case where this girl, she knew her friend was manic-depressive, bipolar, and he would reach out to her for help, and she was like, you just need to kill yourself. | ||
You just need to kill yourself. | ||
And then they have all this texting history, and then she would send them links on how to do it, and then he finally did it. | ||
And he texts her, he goes, I think he would do it tomorrow night. | ||
She goes, you're so full of shit, you're not going to do it. | ||
Let me know if you do, and they end up doing it. | ||
So now she's being charged Yeah, she's real young. | ||
And here's the problem with that. | ||
When you're real young, first of all, they say your brain isn't even really fully formed. | ||
Your thoughts don't come in the most logical manner until you're deep into your 20s. | ||
I think they say your frontal cortex is... | ||
I probably shouldn't be talking at all about science. | ||
Bro science! | ||
I think the term was about, it was about decision-making and impulsive decision-making, particularly in young men experiencing testosterone for the first time. | ||
Thinking about this, think about you're young, right? | ||
You're experiencing testosterone when you're 13, 14 years old. | ||
So you've had 13 years of confusing life. | ||
All of a sudden you've got raging boners all the time. | ||
Yeah, and you're so baffled because you're so horny all the time, and sex is everything. | ||
It's selling TV shows, it's selling cars, and it's all over the fucking boards. | ||
I used to jack off the covers of CDs. | ||
Look at those fucking girls in the volleyball games, right? | ||
Remember we were talking about that? | ||
We were talking about the other day, like, how can they? | ||
They're wearing thongs. | ||
But the point is, when you're young, you do shit. | ||
You might not even understand the consequences of what you're doing. | ||
Like, the idea that this girl knew that this guy was going to kill himself, and that being mean was anything other than, for her, just a fun game of being mean. | ||
The magnitude of it. | ||
Yeah, I don't know if you can really say that they know. | ||
I mean, it's awful that it got done. | ||
I'm not exonerating her, but I don't know if you could really treat that person like an adult. | ||
Then add in head trauma if they played football or did martial arts. | ||
Oh, yeah. | ||
Oh, yeah. | ||
Tried playing football since you were six. | ||
Is that you? | ||
Yes, sir. | ||
Dude, you could be together very well. | ||
You'd be surprised when I leave the studio. | ||
I get online and just hate people. | ||
Did you see the new CTE study that they just released? | ||
There's an article that was out today where they're saying that it is not the amount of concussions, it's the amount of time you've been hit in the head. | ||
So it's sub-concussive trauma, like just jabs to the face that don't even knock you out. | ||
Over long periods of time can be worse. | ||
You know, here's, like I was watching HBO Boxing the other night, and when Gennady Golovkin fought, yeah, Kel Brook. | ||
Kel Brook. | ||
Amazing, amazing fight for as long as it lasted. | ||
I understand why Brooks Corner threw him in the towel. | ||
I was bummed out that they did, but he was going to get murked. | ||
100%. | ||
He was getting murked. | ||
Live to fight another day. | ||
They were smart. | ||
They were smart. | ||
But I was upset because I was like, God damn, this is a good fight. | ||
Me too. | ||
And that kid, Cal Brook, is very good. | ||
Anyway, point being, Bernard Hopkins is doing the commentary. | ||
And I'm listening to him doing the commentary and I'm like, when you see a guy who's that great of a boxer, like Bernard Hopkins, and has been involved in boxing pretty much his whole life, and he's almost, he might be 50 now. | ||
I believe he is 50. And the last time he fought, he fought Kovalev and got boxed up. | ||
It was a tough fight to watch because you're watching really an older Bernard Hopkins getting hit hard by a murderer. | ||
I mean, Kovalev is so good. | ||
Top two in the world, yeah. | ||
But I was listening to him commentary. | ||
When you listen to a guy like that commentate, you're like, well, he talks pretty good now, but what's he going to be like in 10 years? | ||
You know? | ||
Like, when you hear a guy that talks really well, like deep into his 50s and 60s, like George Foreman, like, how did he pull that off? | ||
Some guys keep it together, though, don't they? | ||
Yeah. | ||
Like, Roy Nelson should be drooling out of his mouth and shit in his pants. | ||
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Yeah. | |
He's a smart, smart dude. | ||
Oh, look at this. | ||
Chaz Skelly just did a Maximo Blanco on Maximo Blanco. | ||
No, you don't have that guillotine. | ||
No, son. | ||
Oh, he switched it up. | ||
He does have the darts, though. | ||
He has the darts. | ||
It's over. | ||
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It's over. | |
Oh, my God. | ||
It's over. | ||
Oh, Blanco's going out. | ||
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He's out. | |
He's out. | ||
He's out, son. | ||
He's out. | ||
He's out, son. | ||
Oh, my God. | ||
Tight move. | ||
How'd the referee not know he was out right there? | ||
Uneducated. | ||
That's like Tony Ferguson right there. | ||
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No, that's Herb. | |
That's Herb. | ||
That's Herb. | ||
He's the best in the world. | ||
Herb knows better. | ||
You know what, man? | ||
He gave him an opportunity. | ||
Maybe his angle. | ||
It's the angle. | ||
You know what? | ||
Herb, I usually give the benefit of the doubt because he's one of the best. | ||
I think he is the best. | ||
Nothing wrong with going out, though. | ||
Him and John McCarthy. | ||
Let him go out. | ||
I agree, too. | ||
You can tap. | ||
It's a fight. | ||
You're right. | ||
I agree, too, because going out doesn't hurt anybody. | ||
It looks like it hurts you. | ||
It doesn't do anything bad. | ||
And even if you do lose some brain cells, what are we doing? | ||
We're trying to save brain cells here? | ||
It'd be nice. | ||
Not in this sport. | ||
That's not what this is about. | ||
It's about the guys who are sacrificing their brains for us. | ||
That's what's going on. | ||
I think Herb Dean and John McCarthy are equal. | ||
I think they're equal at the very top. | ||
I think they're the best in the world. | ||
McCarthy means numero uno. | ||
Numero uno. | ||
As far as dealing with them personally, when they come in the back and just the way I felt, if John McCarthy was in... | ||
Was working my fight. | ||
I felt so much better. | ||
This is a beautiful darse, man. | ||
Look how he did this. | ||
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Yeah, it was so deep. | |
He didn't quite get the guillotine, so he adjusts perfectly because as Maximo rolls out of the guillotine, he rolls right into the darse. | ||
Amazing transition. | ||
It was beautiful. | ||
I bet Chaz has hit that transition a hundred times. | ||
You could just tell. | ||
You could just tell. | ||
Right away you could tell this was his shit, and his arms are long, and it was in deep, and he ain't going nowhere. | ||
He's fresh. | ||
It's over. | ||
And by the look at the guy's face, too, it wasn't really defending right. | ||
He should have grabbed the inside of his thigh immediately when he put that on. | ||
I would like to hear what him and Herb were just saying to each other. | ||
Herb was asking him a question about how he set that up. | ||
See, Herb's a legit martial artist, you know? | ||
Educated. | ||
But he loves it. | ||
Like, when he's asking there, he wants to know. | ||
Look at this. | ||
Dude, they both start off, because that's what Maximo always does. | ||
He jumps that guy. | ||
Tight move. | ||
Yeah, perfect. | ||
Look how he set it up so beautiful. | ||
No one does that better than Verdum, though. | ||
Don't get it twisted. | ||
Goddamn, that was beautiful. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Professional right there. | ||
Oh shit! | ||
Joe Schilling's in the motherfucking house! | ||
Joe Schilling in the building. | ||
Joe Chilling just showed up with an 80-pound watch on. | ||
How dare you ball so hard? | ||
Look at that thing. | ||
Gold on gold. | ||
That's a fancy watch, sir. | ||
If I was a girl, I would be attracted to you just because of that watch. | ||
That's fancy. | ||
Yeah, I would say something about him. | ||
He's all tattooed up. | ||
He looks scruffy and dangerous. | ||
He's got scar tissue. | ||
That's just the deal closer. | ||
They look at the watch and go, bam, that's it. | ||
That's it. | ||
He's got money too. | ||
Basically, that's what you're saying. | ||
I got a lot of cash, bitch. | ||
Are you still balling in that crazy Corvette? | ||
No, not anymore. | ||
What are you driving now? | ||
Right now I just have my Range Rover. | ||
Oh, just a Range Rover. | ||
Just safe and comfortable? | ||
Kinetic Motorsports, though, should be something else coming soon. | ||
What Corvette was it? | ||
A Z06? Yeah, the Z06 Convert. | ||
Never mad at that. | ||
Z-Convert. | ||
It's a scary car. | ||
Dope car, man. | ||
Yeah, you know what, man? | ||
It's interesting to see how far they've taken performance cars, and how far they have left to go, because there's nowhere left to go. | ||
Like, those insane Teslas, then when you put them on ludicrous mode, and they're 0-60 in, like, less than three seconds... | ||
I don't fuck with the electric. | ||
It does nothing for me. | ||
It's very fast. | ||
My dick goes, huh? | ||
Nah. | ||
But you bring a fucking nasty-ass split-window stingray or something like that? | ||
Yes, sir. | ||
But what about the environment, man? | ||
I'm sure we'll figure it out. | ||
Least of our worries. | ||
I just can't believe they haven't figured it out yet. | ||
I just feel like there's got to be a way. | ||
I read something about China. | ||
I don't even know if it was a real article. | ||
But they had developed a thing that was like a large building. | ||
And it was an air filter. | ||
It actually would pull the pollution out of the city air. | ||
And they built something. | ||
A giant powered filter. | ||
Makes all the sense in the world. | ||
100% makes sense. | ||
It seems like you could completely clean the air, but then the real trick would be to get it to run on pollution. | ||
If you had a filter that actually used the carbons in the air as its fuel, and then sucked all that shitty air in and pumped out clean air, you have no problems. | ||
There's some smart-ass people who can for sure work on that. | ||
Yeah, there's not enough money in it. | ||
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Absolutely. | |
That's the problem. | ||
The car company's like, get the fuck out of here. | ||
After the last podcast we did, I remember we were leaving the conversation we had. | ||
We got into solar panels. | ||
Yeah. | ||
And I'm confused as to how they work. | ||
You are super confused. | ||
Are there guys out there that have solar panels and they're just completely cut off the grid and they're just using all their energy is from those solar panels? | ||
100%. | ||
But it seems like every time you hear about these solar panels, the way it works is you send the energy back to the city and then they sell it back to you at discounted rent. | ||
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No, no, no. | |
Something like that. | ||
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No, no, no. | |
Here's the deal. | ||
First of all, if you see someone who is like, I have a friend who has a house that's in Colorado that's completely off the grid. | ||
Never been on the grid. | ||
And it's all solar panels? | ||
All solar panels. | ||
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Beautiful. | |
They have solar panels and they have a propane backup in case something goes wrong with the solar system or it goes down because it gets so fucking cold there. | ||
It gets so cold there. | ||
I'm a fucking super solar head. | ||
The superpower! | ||
Solar power system! | ||
If our solar system shuts down... | ||
I'm good, Doug. | ||
It's all good, baby. | ||
I thought we were pretty fucked at that point. | ||
Yeah, that's... | ||
Electricity is your last concern. | ||
But you're dead. | ||
Let's see an end of the report. | ||
The fucking Earth's boiling. | ||
Mars is headed up. | ||
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It's not going to hit us, but it's going to fuck up some satellites for a while. | |
It's going to miss us by one light year. | ||
So, yeah. | ||
What they try to do, and this is what happens most of the time in LA, like if you see someone set up a solar power system, it's tricky because it's not really independent. | ||
You get your power from the sun, but it pumps right back into the grid. | ||
You're connected to the grid still. | ||
That's what I'm talking about. | ||
But you don't have to be. | ||
It's just cheaper. | ||
I think in the city... | ||
What's the point? | ||
Exactly! | ||
That's what they're pushing. | ||
They're pushing that. | ||
They're going, hey! | ||
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No. | |
It's like, why does the city need, oh, we need some space and we need your roof, you know, just get it. | ||
Why are they concerned with that? | ||
You keep saying this and you're wrong about that. | ||
You keep using that analogy. | ||
I hope I'm wrong. | ||
Listen, they don't need the power from these people that have solar power. | ||
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Exactly. | |
That's not what it is. | ||
What they're doing is they don't want to disconnect from the grid because they don't want to lose money. | ||
First of all, it's really hard to get off that grid. | ||
It's really hard to just get on electricity. | ||
Callan's been trying for how many months now? | ||
He's been doing it for like four months, going back and forth. | ||
So what they're doing is they're stepping in. | ||
One foot in, one foot out. | ||
You've got to be all in. | ||
Well, doesn't he have a contract that's doing it? | ||
I don't know, man. | ||
With Callan, you never know. | ||
You do never know. | ||
He's your friend. | ||
You would know. | ||
I mean, I know. | ||
He's my friend, too. | ||
He's my friend first. | ||
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You don't play him. | |
Fuck, though, right? | ||
So you agree. | ||
You're basically saying I was being sarcastic, but that's what I meant. | ||
No, no, but what you're saying is you're thinking that somehow the grid needs the power. | ||
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No! | |
That's definitely not what it is. | ||
What it is is it's more expensive. | ||
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I said that as a joke. | |
It's more expensive. | ||
When you just get solar power, okay, you don't need this massive bank of batteries. | ||
You don't need a lot of equipment. | ||
There's a lot of shit when you go completely off the grid so that when you cut your power off, you're not connected to anything. | ||
If you cut your solar off, you're still connected to the regular power grid, and you still get regular power if your solar goes down. | ||
It's one of the advantages that people like about staying connected to the grid. | ||
You save money, too. | ||
The other part is you definitely save money from solar power. | ||
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And you get a tax rebate. | |
100%. | ||
You get a tax rebate. | ||
You also can, if you make more power than you use, it actually goes back in the grid and you can get money from it. | ||
Boom. | ||
That's what it is. | ||
But it's not like they need it. | ||
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Of course not. | |
It's sort of an incentive in a way to stay connected to the grid, which I think, for them, is like a survival technique. | ||
Because if everybody in California got solar, and if solar keeps getting better the way everything gets better, you're going to have a solar that's as big as this fucking table, and it's going to be able to power J.Lo's house. | ||
That's what I'm talking about. | ||
It's expensive. | ||
That's why people are doing it. | ||
It's getting better and better. | ||
It's just really expensive. | ||
For now, but it's battery technology needs to improve. | ||
There's a lot of issues. | ||
Elon Musk is on the ball with that shit. | ||
He's created these batteries that sit on your wall. | ||
They're hanging on your wall, and they're a much smaller profile than the standard shit that most people have in their houses. | ||
So what does it do? | ||
Well, they're just large batteries that store the electricity from the solar power system. | ||
Okay, so you've got solar panels? | ||
Yeah. | ||
And then there's a battery. | ||
Yeah, you need more... | ||
Yeah, it has to be collected. | ||
It's like... | ||
Have you ever seen those solar things that you can use to charge your phone? | ||
They're pretty dope. | ||
It's like a laptop. | ||
Like you open it up. | ||
Yeah, and you lay it... | ||
You can just let it sit on a rock, and it'll soak up enough energy from the sun to power your phone at the end of the day. | ||
Super lame if you need that. | ||
Backpack hikes. | ||
My friend Adam, he's actually in Montana right now. | ||
He uses that to send these updates from the top of the fucking mountain. | ||
That's what he's using for his power. | ||
He's got this solar thing and he just unfolds it. | ||
That makes sense if you do all that shit. | ||
But if you live in LA, don't bring that shit out. | ||
Just charge in your car, huh? | ||
But if you have a car, yeah, that's probably a good idea. | ||
But if you're in an Uber all the time or something like that, what if you're responsible? | ||
If you're an Uber, look at that fucking thing. | ||
Just charge your cell phone. | ||
Ah, let me just get out my fucking backpack full of solar panels. | ||
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Damn, that's a little too big. | |
Well, no, it folds up. | ||
See, it folds up and three panels collapse together so it's like a laptop. | ||
It's three iPads. | ||
Well, it's not that much bigger than your fucking iPad. | ||
There needs to be a solar panel in the back of your goddamn phone just like that. | ||
It ain't going like that. | ||
Well, that's on the new Fisker cars. | ||
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Let's get there. | |
Check this out. | ||
The new Fisker. | ||
They got a new one. | ||
You know, they blew up and they kind of went out of business for a while. | ||
See, I still wanted one. | ||
It's only if they get wet. | ||
Well, these apparently won't blow up. | ||
What happened was, if you don't know the story, there was a hurricane came. | ||
All the ones that were on the dock in North Carolina exploded when the water hit them. | ||
I was about to get one too for a steal. | ||
So now they have one that has a roof. | ||
Check it out, Eddie. | ||
Look behind you. | ||
That's a Fisker. | ||
Goddamn, that thing's sick. | ||
So the roof on these things is solar powered. | ||
The roof can actually power the car, allegedly. | ||
That's crazy. | ||
Well, in somewhere like L.A., it totally makes sense, right? | ||
Because we have so much sun. | ||
In Phoenix, shit. | ||
Seattle, go ahead and pass on that car. | ||
Yeah, in Seattle, you'll starve to death on the side of the road. | ||
It's so hot in parts of the country, you would think that, I mean, you could use all... | ||
There's enough heat to power everything. | ||
That car's sick, though, fast, too. | ||
Does it say it'll pull the whole car? | ||
It guarantees about a mile and a half of propulsion per day. | ||
A solar roof feeds the main battery and generates about a mile and a half of propulsion per day. | ||
That ain't shit. | ||
Yeah, that's a waste of my fucking time. | ||
What does that mean? | ||
A mile and a half per day? | ||
Okay, oh, listen to that. | ||
Park your car at the airport for a week and get home on the power of the sun. | ||
Maybe, if you live seven miles away, but goddamn, you're pushing it. | ||
God, I mean, that's stressful. | ||
Yeah, what if you hit traffic and you see that meter going down and you turn your radio off and you're like, fuck. | ||
You don't want to get off the grid on that one. | ||
You want that gas can right there. | ||
I like gas. | ||
Me too, man. | ||
I'm old school. | ||
The electricity is a fascinating future for sure, but man, early adopters, right now you're not really an early adopter, you're like a mid-time adopter, but it's a pain in the ass. | ||
When I rented one, they don't last that long. | ||
I went to the improv and back home, and it was more than a half of a battery. | ||
They're just not fun either. | ||
Like, I enjoy driving. | ||
I love driving. | ||
I mean, sit in traffic, I don't, but I love driving. | ||
Got a PCH, something like that. | ||
In the Tesla, it's just, it's not fun for me. | ||
But you had that Prius. | ||
How could it not be fun? | ||
And I fucking would kick it every time I had to get into it. | ||
I sold that thing so fast when the lease was up. | ||
So get the shit out of my face. | ||
I hated it. | ||
You don't think it's fun? | ||
I drove a Tesla once. | ||
It's not fun as hell. | ||
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No? | |
Try driving a real sports car. | ||
Because like you, oh. | ||
Yeah, I don't know, man. | ||
And then jumping that, you're like, what? | ||
I think they're pretty badass. | ||
I see Eddie's point. | ||
They're so cool. | ||
Finally, an electric car that looks cool, because pimps fucking drive those things, you know what I mean? | ||
The Fiskars are badass. | ||
Fiskars better looking. | ||
Fiskars looks like a Maserati. | ||
Fuck the Tesla. | ||
Yeah, but the Teslas look cool, right? | ||
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Correct, sir. | |
Finally. | ||
They look better than a Prius. | ||
Yeah, they definitely look cool. | ||
Like Brian's, that white one, that looks pretty slick. | ||
Prius will bum you out. | ||
Yeah. | ||
It's transportation, though. | ||
I mean, that's what it is. | ||
There's a difference between a transportation vehicle and, like, that Corvette that you were driving, that Z06 convertible. | ||
That thing is just a rollercoaster ride. | ||
Yeah, it's like, it's stressful to drive it, too. | ||
Is it? | ||
It's kind of stressful to drive it. | ||
Too much power? | ||
It's like too much power. | ||
Like, the Ferrari, I like the Ferrari better, but they're about the same, like... | ||
Speed-wise, I mean, they're about as fast. | ||
If I raced one or the other, it would be just as fast. | ||
But in the Ferrari, the passenger is terrified, and you feel like you're in total control. | ||
In the Corvette, you're both fucking terrified. | ||
You have no control. | ||
It's 650 horsepower and 650 torque. | ||
It's a lot. | ||
Fucking crazy. | ||
That's why so many Dodge Vipers, when they first came out, remember the first car really that was on mass production. | ||
It was 500 horsepower, 500 pounds of torque. | ||
And guys, it was just like crazy eyes off Mr. Deeds. | ||
They're like, these things are fast. | ||
I'm just running into walls and shit. | ||
I have a new Viper. | ||
There's a stick, too. | ||
Have you seen that new Viper that they have? | ||
The new one that's built just for the racetrack, but you could drive it around the street? | ||
It's insane. | ||
Really? | ||
It's insane. | ||
It is like the closest thing you can get to a dick on wheels. | ||
Like a giant spaceship dick. | ||
Oh, they bring it up right now. | ||
We all get boners. | ||
If you're a car guy, everyone get boners. | ||
Pull that thing up. | ||
Look at this thing. | ||
That fucking thing is so goddamn fast, too. | ||
It's just insanely fast. | ||
What year is that one, Jamie? | ||
2017. 2017. It's a scary-ass car, too. | ||
I want that 1993, old-school, 40 G's Viper. | ||
They keep taking these things to racetracks and breaking the track record over and over and over again. | ||
It's just a monstrous car, but ridiculous to drive. | ||
It's the ACR, is that right? | ||
Yeah. | ||
It's the SRT ACR, I think they call it. | ||
Fuck you! | ||
They're so sick. | ||
It's a V12? I don't know what it is. | ||
I think it's a V10. People are getting away from V12s. | ||
I think it's a V10. Look at that fucking face. | ||
What's the Viper of Ford? | ||
Jesus Christ. | ||
What's Ford's baby? | ||
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The GT? Well, Ford has a Ford GT. That thing's sick. | |
That thing is sick. | ||
That's an amazing car. | ||
The Shelby Cobra. | ||
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What about Nissan? | |
You see the new one? | ||
They got a new one coming out. | ||
No, I just remember the GT just looked like... | ||
The door? | ||
It was just ugly. | ||
The door was goofy. | ||
Dana White had one of those, I believe. | ||
I dig them. | ||
What's the monster of Nissan? | ||
The old GTR? | ||
They have one of the fastest cars ever. | ||
Accurate doesn't really have, they have an NSX that's coming out. | ||
Not an Accurate, uh... | ||
I like the NSX. | ||
NSX is Accurate. | ||
They still make those? | ||
They make a new one, but it's not like the old one. | ||
The old one was like a stick shift, light car, aluminum. | ||
The new one is four-wheel drive, turbo, it's automatic. | ||
The Nissan GTR, though, at my age, especially your guys' age, you'd feel like a dick driving. | ||
Because it's like, are you from Fast and Furious? | ||
The first time you ever got high, it was too much. | ||
It's kind of like Supra-ish. | ||
If you were in high school, you'd be killing it. | ||
Yeah, killing it. | ||
With a GTR. Yeah, yeah. | ||
Say he's Northcutt, pulls up to the club. | ||
That's his fucking car. | ||
That's what he's got. | ||
He has one of those. | ||
Is it? | ||
Yeah, he has a GTR. It makes perfect sense. | ||
It's perfect. | ||
Perfect for him. | ||
That is handsome. | ||
I can't think of a handsome fellow with a slick rod. | ||
Slick ride. | ||
Those are fun cars, though, man. | ||
Who gives a fuck what anybody else thinks when you show up? | ||
800 horsepower or something, I think. | ||
Listen, man, you think people don't think you're a douchebag when you pull up in that Continental GT? Easy. | ||
Bentley. | ||
Bentley Supersport. | ||
There's only 200 of them. | ||
Big difference. | ||
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Big difference. | |
It's a Bentley. | ||
Big difference. | ||
That's exactly what I thought when I pulled up and parked outside. | ||
I was like, oh, this fucking douchebag. | ||
I like the shape of that one the most. | ||
That's a dope car. | ||
That's a GTR. And that car is silly fast. | ||
Stupid fast. | ||
And they handle like a dream, man. | ||
I rented one of those. | ||
You could rent them from Hertz. | ||
Hertz rents them in Austin. | ||
I rented one for a few days and drove it around. | ||
It was amazing. | ||
Great car, just not for me. | ||
You rented the Hellcat, too, yeah? | ||
Yeah. | ||
How was that? | ||
Fucking awesome. | ||
Really? | ||
Yeah. | ||
Ridiculous. | ||
You're laughing when you're driving it. | ||
You're like, why can't you make this? | ||
Really? | ||
Yeah, it's got 660-something fucking, or was it 700? | ||
700, right? | ||
Almost 750. It's just crazy! | ||
Where do you go from there, though? | ||
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It's crazy! | |
Where does Dodge go from there? | ||
Who knows? | ||
Well, that's what we're saying, you know, about the evolution of this stuff. | ||
They're trying to have unlimited growth in performance cars. | ||
It's going to get to some weird place where... | ||
I mean, it is already. | ||
If you can go and buy one of those Z06s, you could be an 18-year-old kid and go out and buy a Corvette Z06. And for what that is, I realize it's expensive. | ||
For what that car's performance is, it's cheap. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
It's a supercar that's affordable. | ||
Well, sort of affordable. | ||
It's a $90,000 car, right? | ||
No, compared to other supercars, though. | ||
At what point is the speed... | ||
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For a supercar. | |
It seems like every year, the 0-60 gets... | ||
At what point does it stop? | ||
Exactly, that's what we're saying. | ||
Well, the electric ones are beating everything. | ||
That Ludacris shit, they're getting nuts. | ||
Yeah, they're pretty close. | ||
I think that... | ||
The older model was the insane button and the huss ludicrous button. | ||
Cut to ludicrous! | ||
Yeah. | ||
Like the meatballs or whatever, there's going to be like all those fucking buttons. | ||
Ludicrous feed! | ||
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Ludicrous! | |
It's a weird car, man. | ||
It's a weird car. | ||
You know, it's ridiculously fast. | ||
How fast do you need to go? | ||
They're going to get it down to probably like one second. | ||
I wonder if the government's going to like step in. | ||
I mean, they keep you from doing certain shit. | ||
How come they don't keep you from driving motorcycles? | ||
I was thinking that while I was watching this guy zip past me on the highway today. | ||
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It's... | |
With a girl on his back. | ||
It's insane. | ||
I was like, oh, please don't fall. | ||
I'm just watching. | ||
I'm going, please don't fall. | ||
I don't want to see you guys turn into me. | ||
I don't want to pass you on the road. | ||
It's so insane. | ||
Dude, on Thursday, I was in the Beverly Hills area, and I'm coming down, and I'm at the light. | ||
I had a long day. | ||
I'm like, goddamn, that was a long day, feeling sorry for myself for whatever reason. | ||
And this... | ||
Fucking car is making a left-hand turn and these young kids aren't paying attention. | ||
They're like talking and looking back probably going 60. I'm like, oh, this ain't good. | ||
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Kadoosh! | |
The front of the both the cars is basically ripped off. | ||
Engine. | ||
I mean just a complete shit show. | ||
The kids that hit the car get out. | ||
They're fine. | ||
Like some foreign kids. | ||
Girl was pretty hot. | ||
Anyways, they get out. | ||
But the car that they hit was like a Cadillac CTS or whatever, brand new, with the temp tags. | ||
An older lady gets out. | ||
I'm watching like, what the fuck is this? | ||
This old lady gets out and she's crying. | ||
She goes to the side that got hit. | ||
Her husband's there and they can't get him out. | ||
He's like unconscious, can't get him out. | ||
So I'm like, shit, I better do something. | ||
So I pull off to the side. | ||
I run over. | ||
They're finally getting him out and I look at him and his fucking... | ||
He must have hit the front and his teeth, his lip, just blood everywhere, man. | ||
This guy was gangster. | ||
He's like, did you see what fucking happened? | ||
Did you see? | ||
I didn't want to be a witness. | ||
There's a million other people. | ||
I'm like, I sure didn't, man. | ||
Good luck. | ||
I called 911. You didn't want to be a witness? | ||
Nah. | ||
Well, I helped them, and there's enough people around where they can... | ||
There's literally 50 other witnesses. | ||
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Wow. | |
I don't know if you should have admitted that. | ||
Ah, believe me, they had it. | ||
They had it. | ||
I had to get going. | ||
I had to get home to my son. | ||
I had to get home to my son, man. | ||
I hope they have it. | ||
No, they got it for sure. | ||
There was literally 50 people around who saw the same shit. | ||
They don't need frickin' my play-by-play on it. | ||
That sounds a little better. | ||
They don't. | ||
They're fine. | ||
There's cops everywhere. | ||
They're fine. | ||
CSI was on that shit. | ||
So whose fault was it? | ||
Was it the kids' fault? | ||
The kids, yes. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Yeah, 100%. | ||
Goddamn, man. | ||
It is amazing when you think that someone just can give you a car when you're 17 years old. | ||
I remember being... | ||
Well, I got in a bunch of car accidents when I was 17. Me too. | ||
Bad, bad one. | ||
But I was so stupid. | ||
I was so dumb. | ||
I was so dumb and completely reckless, and the idea that someone just gave me a 2,000 pound plus thing with an engine. | ||
It's nuts, man. | ||
You just barely know how to fucking pay attention to the brakes and the oil, and you're barely, and you're part of this. | ||
Now add cell phones into the mix. | ||
The kids are addicted to cell phones. | ||
They're texting and doing a triangle. | ||
Twitter and all that shit. | ||
Just gotta shift a little to the right, my friend. | ||
Good stack. | ||
Just scoot that hip out. | ||
Readjust. | ||
Nope. | ||
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Nope. | |
Good stacking. | ||
Hey, do you, Eddie, do you still do the teepee? | ||
Is that still legit? | ||
Damn. | ||
Remember the teepee? | ||
Yes. | ||
It's still totally legit. | ||
It is, right? | ||
I just haven't gone to it in a long time. | ||
You gotta be kind of fresh to pull it off. | ||
No, it all depends on where your opponent's hands are. | ||
Generally, guys... | ||
You know, have their hands up here. | ||
The teepee's like a triangle variation where you reach behind the knees with an S-grip, right? | ||
Was it an S-grip? | ||
Yeah, it's like this instead of... | ||
Because you don't have to be fully closed, what you're saying? | ||
Yeah, you don't have to be fully closed. | ||
You actually go all the way up to the ankles. | ||
And he's wrapping his arm around your leg so you really can't adjust. | ||
So then you just go here, go around, and... | ||
It's tight now. | ||
Get people to sleep with that shit. | ||
It works. | ||
Oh, this guy's doomed. | ||
Yeah, it's in really, really tight. | ||
Cross that arm. | ||
All he has to do is keep... | ||
This guy's going to keep throwing punches at him. | ||
He's going to go out. | ||
Yeah. | ||
That shit is so tight. | ||
That angle, though. | ||
Oh, it's over. | ||
He's in trouble now. | ||
Yeah, pull the head down. | ||
He's going to tap. | ||
He's about to tap. | ||
Nah, he's about to tap. | ||
This guy's tough as fuck, man. | ||
Damn, that's some good stacking. | ||
He's adjusting. | ||
Nope, he lost it. | ||
He lost it. | ||
Wow, he lost it. | ||
That's some good stacking right there. | ||
Yeah, it really is. | ||
But he doesn't have it anymore. | ||
Nope, he's out. | ||
He's breaking that shit open with his shoulder. | ||
The cage is helping him, too. | ||
God damn it. | ||
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Endurance. | |
So much of a factor. | ||
You know, I'm starting to listen to Nick Curzon. | ||
Schilling, I know you're training with him. | ||
I'm starting to listen to him more and more. | ||
And one of the things that he said that I was like, wow, that's such a controversial thing to say. | ||
He's like, when you're in camp for a fight, you should be doing all strength and conditioning. | ||
He goes, you already know how to fight. | ||
He's like, you should be literally concentrating almost entirely on your gas tank. | ||
I was like, wow. | ||
Like, think about that. | ||
Like, skill work up until fight camp, preparing for fight camp, massive strength and conditioning. | ||
How long would it camp be in his book? | ||
It's a good question. | ||
And I never understood it, really. | ||
It was like, cardio is the most important. | ||
How's your cardio? | ||
I think it makes sense. | ||
It depends what level you're at. | ||
If you're CM Punk, go ahead and just kind of mix everything in there. | ||
That didn't matter. | ||
That didn't matter. | ||
I was just saying from experiencing, because he doesn't have... | ||
If you're a Joe Schilling... | ||
That's rare, though. | ||
Yeah, but if you're a Joe Schilling, you have world-class striking, and you're in a striking contest, for sure get in shape. | ||
Because you're not going to learn how to throw a jab or a right high kick any better. | ||
It's just repetitions, right? | ||
So your cardio and strength condition make sense. | ||
If you're a young guy, man... | ||
I disagree. | ||
Well I just think that's his... | ||
It's accurate but it's like he's a... | ||
Eddie's going to tell you that you should do nothing but work on your jiu-jitsu. | ||
I'm going to say you should do nothing but work on your fucking striking. | ||
Your boxing coach is going to say you need to work on your skill. | ||
Your strength and conditioning coach is going to say the same thing. | ||
And the truth is you're going to work on everything all the time. | ||
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If you're going to do MMA, it's all the time. | |
But here's the other thought, right? | ||
When you see a guy like Damien Maia, it's a one-trick pony with one fucking amazing trick. | ||
His stand-up is pretty good, though. | ||
Damon Myers can stand-up. | ||
He's got good stand-up. | ||
For sure. | ||
But his game is very obvious what he's going to do. | ||
It's not like he's mixing up things. | ||
You don't know he's going to high-kick you. | ||
For a while there, he was trying to kick-box. | ||
And losing. | ||
And then he changed his whole strategy. | ||
He changed the whole... | ||
Same thing with Sakuraba towards the end of his career. | ||
His strategy was always like, I'm just going to stand with dudes and maybe take them down. | ||
Then at the end of Sakuraba's career, he decided, holy shit, I better take dudes down and choke them out because I've been knocked out way too many times. | ||
But with Maya... | ||
But if Maya fights... | ||
But Wonderboy, he's sure as fuck not gonna... | ||
We know the gameplay is from both guys. | ||
But don't you think that Maia got better at his ground game? | ||
I mean, he got better at his overall mixed martial arts game once his stand-up got good enough where he wasn't nervous about it anymore. | ||
Like, if you watch him fight, his timing is excellent. | ||
And his stand-up defense is very good. | ||
Like, his knowledge of when he's in trouble, when he's not. | ||
I think he knows who he is, finally. | ||
And that's a big part of winning in the octagon. | ||
You know, and that part of wanting to be a kickboxer for a few fights, that attitude, I think he needed to go through that. | ||
He needed to get through that. | ||
Because every jiu-jitsu guy's biggest fear is standing with someone in the octagon and having the whole world watch you get knocked out. | ||
They got, you know, generally, it takes a while to get to that point where Joe is. | ||
He's going to pass. | ||
Yeah, but he's mounting. | ||
Look at this. | ||
Hanging on to it. | ||
Oh, yeah, that's tight. | ||
Jesus Christ. | ||
I would like to see how his hands are gripped here. | ||
But it looks pretty goddamn tight. | ||
He's alright? | ||
Yeah, he could have got that stopped right there, right? | ||
It's hard to tell what he has. | ||
Remember that when fucking, was it Takata lied and said that Hoist was choked out? | ||
Remember that shit? | ||
Takata lied. | ||
Was it Takata? | ||
Yes, that's right. | ||
Was it him? | ||
No, it wasn't Takata. | ||
Takata's the guy who... | ||
It was Yoshida. | ||
Yoshida. | ||
Oh, he said he was out and I stopped it and he wasn't? | ||
Or what? | ||
What do you mean? | ||
Was it Yoshida? | ||
And people were like, you know, they'd post that little gif of him going limp. | ||
Right there. | ||
Yeah, it was Yoshida. | ||
Yeah, that's right. | ||
Yoshida, wasn't he an Olympic gold medalist in judo? | ||
Some high level. | ||
Yeah, I think he was a gold medalist. | ||
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So he goes for the Ezekiel choke. | |
Hoist is fine. | ||
Hoist never taps out. | ||
And by the way, Hoist would have just gone unconscious. | ||
100%. | ||
100%. | ||
And he did go unconscious. | ||
I mean, there was a fight where he fought Waleed Ishmael. | ||
He went unconscious. | ||
Yeah, but look. | ||
He's fine. | ||
They pull him off, and he's wide awake. | ||
You can't tell right there, can you? | ||
The refs will fuck up. | ||
The refs with earpieces. | ||
Well, like in the Verdum-Trash Brown fight, the ref fucked up, huh? | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
Pretty bad. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Like, you can't have timeouts. | ||
Yeah. | ||
I wish I got timeouts. | ||
You just can't have timeouts. | ||
The referee definitely fucked up there. | ||
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Yeah. | |
That was well played, though. | ||
I mean, of course you're gonna do that. | ||
Well, I think he was probably thinking about stopping. | ||
I mean, his finger was snapped in half. | ||
I mean, we couldn't tell what was going on. | ||
From a punch, though. | ||
Yes, from a punch. | ||
But, like, from that ref's perspective, if you're, because sometimes your finger does, you know, grapple or whatever, your finger comes out of the glove, and you're like, whoa, whoa, fix my glove, and then fix your glove. | ||
So, like, the ref didn't know until he looked at it. | ||
Yeah. | ||
The ref didn't actually stopped it, right? | ||
The ref did stop it. | ||
But that pickup was good because everyone was cool with it. | ||
Can you imagine if he would've stopped the fight? | ||
That would've sucked. | ||
Who cares? | ||
You wanted to see the fight. | ||
Like, oh, let it go. | ||
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Fuck it. | |
No, no, we're good. | ||
Everyone's good. | ||
Well, the way that turned out, keep fighting. | ||
Who cares what the rule is? | ||
We gotta have rules. | ||
But if he had a dislocated finger, I think everybody would agree really quick if there was a button to vote. | ||
Say, do we let, do we, give him a couple fucking seconds. | ||
His fucking finger is twisted off. | ||
But where do you stop it at? | ||
Where do you stop it? | ||
Ah, fuck, I'm gonna convert my joint hurts. | ||
Hold on, time out. | ||
Let's restart this shit. | ||
You wish you would've stopped it? | ||
You have to have rules. | ||
There's no exceptions. | ||
You have to have rules for a reason. | ||
So you wanted it to stop. | ||
The rest of that fight was complete shit. | ||
I wouldn't mind it. | ||
But here's the thing. | ||
Fabricio Verdun... | ||
Here's the deal, though. | ||
According to the ruse, Fabricio Verdun was well within his rights to keep punching. | ||
100%. | ||
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Absolutely. | |
So when he punched him, the referee hadn't stopped, and he was saying he was calling timeout, but you can't really do that. | ||
You can't do that. | ||
And then the fact that they just kept going afterwards, he decided, I'm just going to fight with a broken finger, which is admirable, right? | ||
But it's like, okay, but what would have happened if you didn't stop? | ||
I mean, when he broke your finger with that punch, how much different is that than breaking someone's thigh with a leg kick? | ||
When they get hurt, you don't stop. | ||
You keep going. | ||
Think if they stop with a leg kick and be like, hold Hold on, hold on, hold on. | ||
Fuck, my shit hurts. | ||
And there's like, how bad is it? | ||
That's not, bro. | ||
Keep going. | ||
Alright, cool. | ||
When someone breaks your forearm, that happens all the time. | ||
It happens all the time. | ||
Someone blocks a kick and they get their forearm broken. | ||
They stop the fight. | ||
You know, they stop the fight. | ||
Every time. | ||
Well, Verdun went into that fight with a broken foot, too. | ||
But so, when you're, you know, you catch a punch, and it was one of those weird Chuck Liddell-style overhand rights that kind of literally comes down. | ||
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On the finger. | |
And it came down on his finger. | ||
So weird. | ||
Yeah, that is a freak accident. | ||
It's a tricky situation. | ||
Is it illegal to break your opponent's fingers? | ||
No, not like that. | ||
You're not supposed to target small joints. | ||
Yeah, there's no joint manipulation of the fingers. | ||
But since it wasn't on purpose, just like an eye poke. | ||
It's not legal, but if it happens, you don't stop the fight. | ||
You're just like... | ||
Did you see the eye poke? | ||
It was an accident. | ||
Accident, eye poke, accident, finger snap off. | ||
Look at this. | ||
Look at this heel hook. | ||
He has nowhere to go. | ||
He's got no left leg here, too. | ||
Left leg's not in play. | ||
If he could kick him in the face right now, shit. | ||
That'd be a different story. | ||
You should be able to. | ||
You should be. | ||
Didn't one FC chain, didn't they go back to no kicks to the head? | ||
Yeah, they had a lot of really bad highlights recently. | ||
Some fools getting soccer kicked bad. | ||
Well, did you see the Roger Huerta one? | ||
Is it online? | ||
Can we check that out? | ||
I remember seeing one recently. | ||
It was fucking nasty. | ||
Yeah, I love Roger. | ||
Last fight? | ||
He fought 170, and Roger fought 155 in the UFC, and he fought a big Brazilian dude. | ||
It wasn't his last fight. | ||
His last fight, he lost a decision. | ||
But it was a bad knockout. | ||
So he had a fight since? | ||
Yeah, he's had more than one fight since, I believe. | ||
I think Brandon Vera in that same league kicked a motherfucker in the face, too. | ||
I'm sure. | ||
Good luck getting kicked by that dude. | ||
See, soccer kicks are very different when there's a cage because you can't get your head out of the way. | ||
If it's ropes, you can get your head under the ropes and you can kind of move and get away from things. | ||
Here it is. | ||
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Boom! | |
Show that again, Jamie. | ||
Oh! | ||
That'll do it. | ||
But that's a fight, though. | ||
Yeah, well, he was already hurt and in bad place. | ||
If it was up to you, Brendan, would you allow that in the UFC or keep it the way it is? | ||
I would not keep it the way it is. | ||
What about you, Joe? | ||
Unless you hate ratings and sponsors. | ||
I would totally allow it, right? | ||
Totally allow it. | ||
The dude's bent over. | ||
I'm looking at it from north-south. | ||
Remember when those guys used to drop knees from north-south all the time? | ||
Yeah. | ||
Oh, dude, that was the best. | ||
And it changed the way they... | ||
The new rule is a down fighter is four points on the ground, not three points on the ground. | ||
I like that. | ||
So if you have a guy on the ground and he's covering up in the turtle, all you have to do is hold on to one of his arms. | ||
You pick one of his arms off the ground, and at least by my definition, you could start kicking him and kneeing him in the face. | ||
Right? | ||
If you can't hit a downed opponent. | ||
If he's on all four and you just take one off. | ||
Right. | ||
You just pick one up and you start blasting him. | ||
The guys were fucking around with it. | ||
If he sits up and he's on his knees, now it's only two feet. | ||
Or is that four because he's got two feet, two knees? | ||
Yeah, is it? | ||
I don't know. | ||
Is that a downed opponent? | ||
What do you consider? | ||
A knee counts, right? | ||
Right, but two knees. | ||
If you're on your knees. | ||
Like, okay, so if a guy's down, right, once his hand cuts off the ground, that's when it's legal. | ||
But his knees are on the ground, still not legal, right? | ||
Is that how it goes? | ||
Yeah, still not legal. | ||
Right. | ||
Yeah, that's right. | ||
But if a guy, so if a guy, with the new rules, if a guy had his feet flat on the ground, and he was touching the ground with two hands, and you just pulled one of those arms up, you can do whatever the fuck you want. | ||
Yep, correct. | ||
Right. | ||
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I think when both fighters are on the ground, you should be allowed to kick to the head. | ||
Because I think if a guy can up kick you from the bottom, bullshit, right? | ||
You should totally, like when someone's going for an arm bar, you should be able to kick the fuck out of their face. | ||
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It's fighting! | |
Yeah, like why are you allowed to defend yourself from the bottom or me coming at you, but I can't strike you exactly and it gives you an unrealistic It gives you an unrealistic sense of what's real and not real on the ground Because there's a lot of stuff that goes on in the ground that wouldn't happen if the guy could just kick you in the face Because if you're lying in a weird position the guy just blasting shins to your face You're gonna stop what you're doing and have to readjust and you're gonna have to make gonna make that a part of the equation You're gonna have to prepare for that I think that downward elbow shit on the ground is | ||
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stupid, too. | |
Poor shit. | ||
Total bullshit. | ||
Makes no sense. | ||
They didn't even change that when they changed the new rules. | ||
I don't think they brought it up. | ||
If they were going to make that rule about the ice breaking or whatever the fuck their reason was, if I'm standing up and I do that, then okay, yeah. | ||
But on your knees, you're not going to have any power to really break. | ||
It's not like you're a dangerous... | ||
And it's fighting. | ||
It's no more dangerous than anything else. | ||
Anything that's on the fence, allow it. | ||
If there's an argument, allow it. | ||
It's fighting. | ||
But if everyone collectively says, hell fucking no, then yes, those are the ones. | ||
I mean, it's fighting. | ||
Don't you think the UFC represents what true fighting really is? | ||
100%. | ||
It should. | ||
There should be that still. | ||
Dude, I think we should get rid of the cage. | ||
I think they should hold it in a space the size of a basketball arena. | ||
Goddammit. | ||
And it should be like a basketball floor, and there should be no fucking cage. | ||
And they just run forever. | ||
This is what I think. | ||
Okay, if I'm the king of the world, and I get to make the new rules for the UFC, we get rid of the gloves. | ||
No gloves, no hand tapes. | ||
That's all bullshit. | ||
It's out the window. | ||
You should start a show on an Indian reservation. | ||
You can do anything you want. | ||
That's what I'm saying. | ||
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That's easy. | |
What about eye gouging and shit? | ||
No gloves? | ||
Well, you eye gouge, immediate deduction of one point. | ||
Immediate. | ||
Two eye gouges, you're out. | ||
Headbutting? | ||
The fight is over. | ||
Dude, if you did that on an Indian reservation... | ||
Headbutting should be legal. | ||
If you got me in an arm bar, can I bite your ankle to get it off my face? | ||
No, you can't bite. | ||
See, it's not real, Joe. | ||
Biting is uncivilized. | ||
Biting and eye poking are the only thing that I think of. | ||
Not civilized. | ||
Here's the thing about biting. | ||
What about ball shots? | ||
Biting is super dangerous as far as bacteria and stuff like that. | ||
I want dudes dying on my show of staff. | ||
But blinding and shit, look, we know we can poke each other in the eyes. | ||
This is not fighting. | ||
Let's agree not to hit the eyes. | ||
You can't reach into my package and grab my hog either. | ||
Eyes and dick off limits. | ||
Don't touch the hog, bro. | ||
Head kicks to the back of the head, legal. | ||
Elbows to the back of the head, legal. | ||
That changes everything. | ||
Elbows to the back of the head. | ||
You don't even need rear naked chokes. | ||
Once they allow the elbows, boom, boom. | ||
Legal. | ||
All that legal. | ||
Soccer kicks legal. | ||
You guys are barbarians. | ||
Stomps. | ||
Soccer kicks legal. | ||
Let's do it. | ||
But no cage. | ||
Rugged fighting champion. | ||
RFC. Start your own league. | ||
Have that basketball court as a fucking thing. | ||
You have a basketball court for basketball and basketball is boring as fuck. | ||
How about that? | ||
They got that big-ass place for football. | ||
Look at that giant space. | ||
How about two dudes meet in the middle of a fucking football arena? | ||
How about that, son? | ||
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And go where? | |
And go crazy. | ||
God damn it, Joe! | ||
The problem with the basketball arena thing is you're going to have to change all these other rules to force them to fight. | ||
Exactly. | ||
You're going to have to make yellow cards. | ||
You have to make all that shit. | ||
You let the public decide. | ||
Even sparring in an open room, where is it, Big Matt? | ||
It becomes one guy who doesn't want to fucking spar, and you're just walking around the room chasing him. | ||
Good. | ||
Let the 50,000 people that'll come to my shows boo. | ||
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Boo! | |
By the way, here's another thing I'm doing. | ||
Here's another thing I do if I'm king of the world. | ||
I bring Ben Askren into the UFC. Immediately. | ||
I agree 100%. | ||
It's a disgrace. | ||
He fucks up everybody. | ||
He sunned him. | ||
Took them down, manhandled them, did whatever the fuck you wanted. | ||
Let's just go over this real quick. | ||
Let's just cover this real quick. | ||
You'll have CM Punk fight, but not Ben Askren. | ||
What the fuck world are we living in? | ||
That's money, what are you talking about? | ||
Didn't like 5 billion people watch him? | ||
He made a ton of money. | ||
He made a half a million dollars on paper, what they show, and people were complaining about it. | ||
I'm like, do you know how many eyes that guy brought to that show? | ||
He's worth that money. | ||
He's a very, very famous guy, and I think he handled it really well. | ||
As far as his post-fight speech, his interview, the way he talked about it, he handled it really... | ||
He gave Mickey Gall a real weird speech to him after it was over. | ||
But you've also got to realize, in some cases, you've got to believe in yourself the way I believe in myself. | ||
Bitch, I just beat you. | ||
You just got familiar. | ||
That's not really where I want to get my advice from. | ||
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He went into WWE mode right away, right? | |
That's his world, man. | ||
This is really his first venture into reality. | ||
You go out there and you think everything's going to go great because it's gone great your whole life with no competition. | ||
And then all of a sudden your first competition is in the UFC. How is it going to go any other way? | ||
It's insane. | ||
Maybe he liked it. | ||
Maybe he was like, fuck him. | ||
He says he did. | ||
There's no way they let him fight again. | ||
There's no way. | ||
If he liked it, most people were like, fuck that! | ||
I'm not gonna go with my family there and fuck that! | ||
He could totally fight again. | ||
He could totally fight again. | ||
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In the UFC, no. | |
But not in the UFC. He's gotta fight as an amateur. | ||
Joe, he can't. | ||
And he's gotta learn. | ||
He ruined that shot. | ||
You can't fight an amateur. | ||
When you fight pro, you can't fight an amateur. | ||
Oh, is that how it works? | ||
Yeah. | ||
Okay. | ||
There's no going back. | ||
Well then, you can fight pro. | ||
But listen, you just gotta fight people that are of the same ability as you. | ||
People that are learning. | ||
You know what they should do? | ||
Yeah, he should go on like a regional circuit and fight guys with similar experience, have a whole documentary like getting back to the UFC and fucking sell that thing. | ||
Yeah, that would be huge. | ||
And drop the CM Punk. | ||
What's his real name? | ||
Phil Brooks? | ||
Yeah. | ||
You're Phil Brooks, motherfucker. | ||
Drop the CM Punk. | ||
But I like keeping it because he had that name before he came to WWE. That was his name. | ||
That's why he owns it. | ||
That's why he's allowed to use it still. | ||
And everybody knows him as that. | ||
It's a smart move as far as marketing. | ||
I think that guy could still go on the regional circuit and fight people that are just starting out. | ||
They're just starting out just like him. | ||
And he could probably become a competent fighter, a competent professional fighter. | ||
But that's something that takes a long time. | ||
It's not like he has any handicaps. | ||
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I love it. | |
I love how positive you are. | ||
If he has a will and he has a desire, because he enjoys it apparently. | ||
If he has a will and he has a desire and he wants to test himself, I firmly believe that that guy could go and become a competent professional fighter. | ||
No, I didn't say that. | ||
I said a competent professional fighter. | ||
I think he's a smart guy. | ||
I think he's a tough guy. | ||
I just think this was his first real combat sports experience. | ||
And I don't think... | ||
I just think they did him a disservice. | ||
Granted, he made whatever, seven figures after pay-per-view bonus. | ||
I just think they did him a disservice. | ||
If he actually wanted to pursue this as a career, Dana, the commission, his coaches went, listen, man, you've got to take the necessary steps like everyone else did because There's no turning back. | ||
Once you go to the UFC, man, you're in and out, brother. | ||
Well, you know, guys have come back. | ||
They've gone to other organizations and come back. | ||
At 38 with no skills, trained for two years. | ||
It's not likely. | ||
It's not likely, but it's also not likely that you become a professional fighter at 37 as well. | ||
None of these things are likely, but who cares about that? | ||
Well, most people are doing something else by the time they're 38, and it's not their career path. | ||
It's very rare that someone decides to go into that at such a late stage of life. | ||
But look, if he's in good shape and he's a healthy guy, what he needs to do is, if he wants to learn, just train all the time. | ||
Train all the time and take your time in getting involved in competition again. | ||
Because you can't get in an argument with someone when you only know four words. | ||
Yeah, I like the guy. | ||
It's just not going to work, right? | ||
And it's the same thing as a fight. | ||
He's fighting this kid who... | ||
I watched Mickey Gall fight in the UFC's first fight. | ||
I'm like, this fucking kid is good. | ||
Look how he takes that guy's back. | ||
He took that guy's back like a ghost. | ||
Mickey Gall has some serious work to do as well in that division. | ||
He has a long ways to go. | ||
And he dismantled CM Punk. | ||
But he's a legit brown belt. | ||
Legit brown belt, but he still has... | ||
If you look at the spectrum of that division at 170, he has a lot of work to do. | ||
Of course, it's an insane division. | ||
He has a lot of promise. | ||
But he's still very new. | ||
Well, that was kind of what CM Punk was saying to him, because he was saying that he didn't belong in the UFC, and the only reason why he was in the UFC was to fight CM Punk. | ||
He was kind of saying that. | ||
But what the kid's doing is being smart. | ||
He's just self-deprecating. | ||
He's a smart fucking kid. | ||
I like how he called out Sage Northcutt. | ||
Me too. | ||
Said he was corny. | ||
Me too. | ||
It was really good. | ||
Really good. | ||
Jump a few F-bonds. | ||
I'd watch that fight. | ||
I'd watch that fight. | ||
Oh, fuck yeah! | ||
Does Sage have a fight coming up? | ||
I don't know, dude. | ||
That's the heartthrob fight. | ||
Those two? | ||
Couple one-two cuties. | ||
Couple dime pieces going at it. | ||
I don't know why Mickey Gall drives. | ||
Hopefully something cool. | ||
He's going to have to drive American and then shit on the other dude for driving a Japanese car. | ||
That way America gets after him. | ||
I didn't even know. | ||
That fella's got a Japanese car. | ||
Hook him up, Trump. | ||
Yeah, someone's got to get him up. | ||
And not even like a Corvette, like a Camaro. | ||
Has to be a Shelby, bro. | ||
Mustang. | ||
Mustang. | ||
The new one. | ||
Just shits on him. | ||
Juan Canaro back in the action. | ||
Kenny Robertson. | ||
This is a good fight. | ||
Kenny Robertson's slick. | ||
Kenny Robertson's slick. | ||
Kenny Robertson's the one that hit that weird leg lock. | ||
You remember that weird leg lock he got from a scramble? | ||
It was a real strange knee bar. | ||
I was like, dude, I don't think I've seen one of those before. | ||
I don't remember. | ||
I'm trying to remember how he hit it. | ||
Dude, how about... | ||
Oh, here it is. | ||
He fought Ben Saunders. | ||
Who the fuck is that? | ||
Yeah, that's just Kenny Robinson talking. | ||
Why, they have it in the video? | ||
He's solid. | ||
Solid wrestler. | ||
Good jiu-jitsu. | ||
The knee bars? | ||
He's no joke, man. | ||
Kenny Robinson is very smart. | ||
That was a tough fight. | ||
Him and Ben Saunders. | ||
That was tough. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Three hard rounds. | ||
Dude, how about your boy Chael Sonnen, Simon Bellator? | ||
Good move. | ||
Good move, right? | ||
Smart move for him. | ||
Listen, man, I hope Shane Carwin does it too. | ||
Not necessarily that I hope Shane doesn't sign with the UFC. I hope he signs wherever he gets the best deal, 100%. | ||
But I think it's good to have guys like Rory. | ||
It's good to have legit, world-class fighters over there. | ||
I like it. | ||
I think competition's good for everything. | ||
It's good for everybody. | ||
It elevates everybody, everywhere. | ||
With Chael, it was a little... | ||
Like, last night I was watching Bellator and they had Chael do... | ||
You know, he does this whole gangster shit-talking. | ||
Remember, he hasn't been around in a while. | ||
So when you used to, like, freaking Conor McGregor shit-talking, when CM Punk... | ||
It was like Hot Tub Time Machine. | ||
Like, it was a little old school. | ||
And I talked to Chael yesterday. | ||
I love Chael. | ||
I fucking love Chael. | ||
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But I was like, eesh, this is tough. | |
This is old school. | ||
It certainly seemed prepared. | ||
Yes. | ||
Yeah, but isn't that always how he did it? | ||
Yeah, but it was more natural. | ||
But also, there's no, like, he's calling out Tito Ortiz, you know, and there's, like, no real animosity. | ||
And then Tito tweeted back, like, I'm gonna show you who the bad guy is at the bad girl party. | ||
I'm like, goddammit, we have two 40-year-olds talking shit on Twitter. | ||
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Look at Joe! | |
Silence! | ||
And I fucking love Joe. | ||
I love to see him fight, but seeing his shit talking compared to Conor's, it's like, well, Conor took that torch and ran with it. | ||
Yeah, I had dinner the other night with Maynard from Tool. | ||
Maynard Keenan is a buddy of mine. | ||
And he's in jiu-jitsu. | ||
He's a purple belt, loves jiu-jitsu, loves MMA. And we were talking about the UFC, and he goes, God damn it, why the fuck is it becoming a WWE? Yeah. | ||
He goes, this is making me sad. | ||
He's like, everybody's trying to be Conor McGregor, and they're coming up with these corny fucking pre-fight promos. | ||
It's tough, man. | ||
And he's like, oh! | ||
It makes me just want to not... | ||
Because he's just a fucking super smart genius dude. | ||
Purest of the sport. | ||
And he loves martial arts. | ||
So when he sees non-martial artist type behavior, like pro wrestling type behavior, I'm like, look, they're just trying to sell themselves. | ||
TJ Dillashaw's talking about it. | ||
He goes, I just beat the fucking number two contender. | ||
I'm ranked number one. | ||
Right. | ||
Give me the fucking rematch. | ||
What do I got to do? | ||
He goes, I'm not a shit talker. | ||
I'm not going to do that. | ||
I'll tell you, I'm not finding one but that. | ||
I went, I don't know if it's enough. | ||
Is there any way you can watch like Ric Flair or some shit and just pick up a couple? | ||
Yeah, come on. | ||
Can you just pick up a few things? | ||
Like watch Macho Man and just start spitting some game online. | ||
It's sports entertainment. | ||
But the thing is, you can't, like, Connor is that guy. | ||
That's him. | ||
Like, that's how he talks all the time. | ||
He's a sharp shit-talker from Ireland, and he knows how to fight, and he knows how to talk, and it's an unusual combination. | ||
Yes. | ||
Most guys don't know how to talk that know how to fight, and most guys who know how to talk don't know how to fight. | ||
Correct. | ||
When you can talk that much shit and fight that well. | ||
You're a unicorn. | ||
Well, he's a unicorn also. | ||
He can fight. | ||
The mindfuckings he puts on dudes, because he can talk so much shit, the love of all those people that are behind him, all those Irish people, and then the mindfucking from them screaming at you all the time the entire, you know, six weeks up until the fight, and then the shit that he says about you, and the fact that he might very well sleep you. | ||
He might very well drop that nuclear left hand on your face. | ||
Rumor is Eddie Alvarez and him tangoing. | ||
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I know a little something that I wish I could tell. | |
Just give me an eyebrow raise. | ||
If it was a rumor, there's the Kenny Robertson leg lock. | ||
He took it from the back. | ||
That's what it was. | ||
Crazy, right? | ||
Yeah, I remember that one. | ||
Damn, motherfucker stretched out. | ||
Yeah, see, that shit wouldn't work with me. | ||
Yeah, you're too stretchy. | ||
But then you got Ron Carnero, who's a jiu-jitsu black belt, really good on the ground. | ||
He'll fight forever. | ||
Yeah, Carnero's nasty. | ||
On the ground, Kenny's gonna have a hard time. | ||
He sure did, sir. | ||
His jiu-jitsu's very nasty. | ||
Very nasty. | ||
Yeah, it's an interesting fight, man. | ||
With Eddie and Connor? | ||
Yeah. | ||
If it happens, allegedly, at Madison Square Garden, if it happens, allegedly, in a couple months, maybe it is going to happen. | ||
Maybe it is going to happen. | ||
But if it does happen, Eddie's a big boy. | ||
Do you think that might happen, Joe? | ||
Eddie's a big boy, and he can grapple. | ||
Freaking grapple? | ||
People forget that I'm going to fucking wrestle his ass. | ||
He's a fucking grinder, and whatever endurance issues Connor may have, he better iron those fuckers out before you go to town with that guy. | ||
You know I'm the biggest Conor McGregor fan on the planet. | ||
I love that guy. | ||
But looking at his potential opponents at 155 and at 70, it's like, fuck, man. | ||
It doesn't look pretty. | ||
And Eddie's a rough matchup for him. | ||
It's probably his easiest. | ||
It really is. | ||
I don't think it's an easy one at all. | ||
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Whoa, whoa, whoa. | |
No, no. | ||
I'm saying at 55, they're all fucking tough. | ||
They are all tough. | ||
Stylistically, if you're like, god damn, I guess Eddie's the best matchup. | ||
That's saying a lot. | ||
Because Eddie's in a fucking nightmare. | ||
I don't think Eddie's the best matchup at all. | ||
Who would you say is? | ||
Well, first of all, Eddie's known for having a chin. | ||
He's known for having a chin and known for being able to bounce back from getting hurt. | ||
He's got massive heart. | ||
And he fights at his best when the chips are on the line. | ||
Like in the Dos Anjos fight. | ||
Nobody gave him a shot in that fight. | ||
Who gave him a shot in that fight? | ||
He's probably like at least two to one underdog, right? | ||
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Right. | |
He's going into that fight with a dominant champion, Rafael Dos Anjos, who just got done stopping Cowboy Cerrone in the first round, working Nate Diaz, beating the shit out of Pettis for five rounds. | ||
You're looking at Dos Anjos going, holy shit, this guy might be able to run this division for a long time. | ||
And Alvarez clips him. | ||
And he looked real good before he clipped him. | ||
He looked fast and sharp. | ||
He had some sleeper fights before then. | ||
We had some bad ones. | ||
We didn't see the real Eddie Alvarez until that fight. | ||
You're like, that's the fucking Bellator. | ||
That's the fucking free agent that we wanted to see. | ||
The Gilbert Melendez fight, Andy Pettis fight. | ||
You're like, Jesus Christ. | ||
He's gotten better. | ||
Part of it is he's gotten better. | ||
Well, the UFC jitters are real. | ||
No matter if you have 30 fights or apparently if you have zero, if you're CM Punk, those jitters are real. | ||
Where is he training now? | ||
Who, Eddie Alvarez? | ||
Is he with your boy, Mark Henry? | ||
He's with Mark Henry. | ||
That's a big part of it. | ||
And Frankie Edgar, and he's wrestling at Rutgers. | ||
He's a monster, man. | ||
I'm telling you, Mark Henry is a motherfucker, dude. | ||
They have Barbosa. | ||
They have all those guys. | ||
But you look at the top five, and for Conor, it's fucking tough, man. | ||
Yeah, it is tough. | ||
But I think that's part of the reason why Eddie looks so good now. | ||
He looks so fucking sharp. | ||
You can't discount the fact he's training with Barbosa, he's training with Frankie Edgar, and he's absorbing from Henry. | ||
He's the mastermind of Mark Henry. | ||
He's a Bad motherfucker, dude. | ||
He's the most slept-on trainer. | ||
Mark Henry, the most slept-on trainer. | ||
It's because he doesn't want to be in the limelight and he hates that stuff. | ||
But if he was more outspoken, I mean, Jesus Christ. | ||
He'd be all over the map. | ||
Rashad pulled me aside at one of the UFCs and was just going on and on about what a bad motherfucker he is. | ||
I've never seen anything like him. | ||
He still checks in on me all the time. | ||
I don't fight anymore. | ||
I worked with him for maybe two or three weeks and he would have, I'm telling you, man, like a pad like this in his basement. | ||
I had sores on my feet because I was barefoot in his basement doing footwork nonstop. | ||
He had notes for fucking days. | ||
Like, he's obsessed with it. | ||
Yeah, he's brilliant. | ||
Clearly on the spectrum. | ||
Makes the best pizza in fucking New Jersey in the world, too. | ||
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I heard. | |
I heard he's a silly cook. | ||
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What?! | |
God! | ||
That motherfucker's pizza is off the charts. | ||
And that's a place where pizza is highly praised. | ||
You've got to come with some real pizza if you want to make a living selling pizza in New Jersey. | ||
Coaching up world champions and making mean-ass pizza. | ||
I don't think that's an easy fight. | ||
I don't think there's any easy fights at 150. That's what I'm saying. | ||
I'm saying if you look at those top five, none of them are easy at all. | ||
The future doesn't look great at 55. See, I can't say that either, because... | ||
Look at that top five. | ||
Tell me the best matchups. | ||
Well, Nate is clearly one of the best. | ||
Nate's clearly one of the best 155-pounders. | ||
Diaz? | ||
Yes. | ||
He's better at 55 than he is 70. Yeah, well, 70's not really fighting at 70. I mean, he fought Rory at 70. I'm just saying he fought Conor at 70, and that was a tough outing. | ||
He did that because that's what they did the first time when they took the fight last minute notice. | ||
He wanted to have the exact same conditions. | ||
That's why Conor did it at 70 again. | ||
But Nate's a 155-er. | ||
And at 155, when he fought Michael Johnson, when he's shredded, he looked at his best, right? | ||
He's a better Nate Diaz. | ||
Yeah, and if you see the Nate Diaz that beat Michael Johnson at 55, he's one of the best fighters in that division, for sure. | ||
Hands down. | ||
Not even close. | ||
So, Conor just beat him. | ||
I mean, obviously a very close fight, very close decision, but I think it was probably a fair decision. | ||
I don't have to go over it and score it. | ||
I haven't gone over it and scored it. | ||
It was a fair decision. | ||
I mean, I don't think anyone lost in that fight, but going to the judges, I did have Conor slightly edging that fight. | ||
I think you look at the damage done. | ||
He did more damage. | ||
He dropped Nate. | ||
You know what Nate says about that? | ||
I saw Nate at the grocery store randomly, and he was saying, That he was falling on purpose to dupe Connor. | ||
And he goes, I knew the first two, three rounds were going to be, he's so fast, it's going to be tough. | ||
So when he hit me, the plan was to fall down, to get him to follow me down. | ||
He goes, because I couldn't take him down, so the plan was to get him to follow me down there. | ||
Ooh, that's interesting. | ||
That's a risky game plan. | ||
That's a very risky game plan. | ||
That's from the horse's mouth. | ||
That's one of those, is that one of those I meant to do that things? | ||
I don't know. | ||
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I don't know Nate Diaz enough to be like, you serious? | |
That's the Pee Wee Herman defense. | ||
Either way, I meant to do that. | ||
Either way, Nate's one of the best in the world. | ||
He's more of a nightmare at 55 is what I'm trying to get to. | ||
Yeah, I agree. | ||
He's a tougher fight at 55. I think he fights better when he's lighter. | ||
It probably sucks to get down there, but you're lighter and you move faster. | ||
He has better cardio. | ||
This is going to be a good fight, man. | ||
This will be a good fight. | ||
Kenny Robertson and Juan Carnero. | ||
I haven't watched 30 seconds. | ||
Robertson with a nice knee to the body there. | ||
So I think what I love about Conor is that that's what he wants to do. | ||
I don't think he can make 45 anymore. | ||
Me neither. | ||
Camp says he can't either. | ||
No way. | ||
It's just too hard. | ||
He looks so bad. | ||
He has the 45 belt. | ||
He just beat Nate at 70. Then let's say he mercs Eddie Alvarez, so he's the 145-155 champ. | ||
What? | ||
Then what do you do? | ||
I kind of want to see him rematch Aldo, though. | ||
I kind of do. | ||
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I kind of want to see him fight again at 45. When they say it's too tough for him now, without the IVs and stuff. | |
Carneo got the back. | ||
This is not good. | ||
Ooh, I like how he butterflies that back leg. | ||
Let's see if that works. | ||
Ooh, look at that. | ||
Look at that. | ||
Very nice. | ||
He squoze his way to the back. | ||
Ooh, look at that squeeze. | ||
That's nice. | ||
Good risk control. | ||
I think there's better fights at 45 when you think of Aldo, Max Holloway. | ||
Oh, shit. | ||
Oh, Kenny, good job recovering. | ||
Look, he's got the underhook. | ||
Oh, he goes underneath. | ||
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Underneath, underneath. | |
Deep half. | ||
Oh shit! | ||
You got it? | ||
Conero! | ||
Oh, Kenny Robertson with that wrestling. | ||
Very nice. | ||
Nice escape. | ||
Kenny Robertson's got some weird hand movements he does right before he punches, you know? | ||
He lets his hands go limp and they wiggle around. | ||
I wonder if he does that on purpose. | ||
I wonder if there's a strategy behind that. | ||
Like maybe to remind himself to fight loose. | ||
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Hmm. | |
Or maybe it's just a tick. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Maybe it's like one of those twitches. | ||
Like Boss used to write big R's on his hands when he was fighting. | ||
For relax. | ||
Yeah, make him relax. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Pancreas. | ||
That's so easy said than done. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Especially when you're fighting someone who just constantly puts pressure on you. | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
But going back to that cardio thing, man, when two guys are skillfully very similar, but one guy's just got some stupendous Marv Marinovich-style gas tank, And he knows how to fight, but now he's just got this unbelievable gas tank. | ||
You're talking about that Cain Velasquez. | ||
Yeah, like, well, Cain knows how to fight, obviously, but the scariest thing about Cain is the volume he puts on it. | ||
His cardio's at heavyweight? | ||
It's insane. | ||
Dude, you tell me a better heavyweight matchup besides maybe Uber Eam and Brock, besides Steve versus Cain. | ||
That's the fucking fight of the century, son. | ||
It's amazing. | ||
Besides a roided-to-the-dick over him versus a juiced-up Brock, which I was all for. | ||
I was like, oh, hell yeah. | ||
That was sick. | ||
But supplement-free Kane versus supplement-free Stipe? | ||
Sign me up. | ||
It's a great fight. | ||
They're very similar men. | ||
Stipe is so gangster. | ||
Out of the two, which would you rather see, though? | ||
Juice City. | ||
Not in 2016 or 2017. You're not trying to see juiced up Ream vs. | ||
juiced up Brock now. | ||
Well, if they hadn't had that first fight, I would. | ||
Will you bring them back to the same place they were? | ||
Same place they were at the time. | ||
Oh, I agree. | ||
Al May's first fight in the UFC. Brock making a comeback after losing his title. | ||
Nah, I disagree. | ||
Steve Avers Kane's the fucking fight man. | ||
Listen, you don't have to disagree. | ||
We want different things out of this world. | ||
That'd be a disagreement. | ||
There's nothing wrong with that. | ||
I want Jew City. | ||
You want Juice City on a football field? | ||
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I want Pride 2003 on a football field. | |
I think the cage is an artificial boundary and I think it plays a big factor in movement and a big factor in the fight. | ||
I mean, how much fucking footwork do you need for a 25-foot or 30-foot cage? | ||
I mean, it's a big cage. | ||
30 feet's a big cage. | ||
Is that bigger than it used to be or no? | ||
You could have the cage the way it is. | ||
Where do they start at? | ||
Have a border where if you pass that border, you gotta get back inside. | ||
So, the cage never becomes a factor. | ||
So, like, if you're fighting, and you take a guy down, and, you know, his ass scoots outside of the boundary line, but they're still, you know, 50 feet in any one direction, if someone's driving forward, you take that guy, you move him in the middle of the cage, or the middle of the mat, and you assume the same position. | ||
That's not hard to do. | ||
They did that in Pride all day long. | ||
They could do that. | ||
They have replays. | ||
They could see exactly where a guy was set up. | ||
The referee holds on him. | ||
Ready, set, fight. | ||
And you go back to fighting again. | ||
That way there's never any artificial cage that's in the way that helps you get back up to your feet. | ||
Everybody would have way harder time getting back up to their feet if there was no cage. | ||
If you couldn't wall walk... | ||
It's a big factor. | ||
And getting the takedown. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
Getting the takedown would be completely different, too. | ||
Oh, yeah. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Drop down, scoop your hands together. | ||
Because the guy can't move. | ||
He can't keep backing up and pummeling under. | ||
But it's hard to take guys down when they're against the fence and they're just leaning on the fence. | ||
There's an art to that. | ||
Correct. | ||
If the fence wasn't there, they'd get taken down easier. | ||
Via check. | ||
It's a factor. | ||
The cage is a factor. | ||
I like that factor. | ||
It's part of the game. | ||
Yeah, me too. | ||
There needs to be boundaries. | ||
Like a fence wrestling sport. | ||
Like, I don't want to watch NASCAR. I don't want to watch it anyways. | ||
But it feels like they get slipping around. | ||
Elevator fights. | ||
And you've got to take the guy down, and the guy's got to use the fence to take him down. | ||
You've got, like, a minute to take him down or something. | ||
The guys that get really good at that translate to MMA a lot better, right? | ||
Yeah, maybe. | ||
I think that we would be better off, though, if it wasn't a factor. | ||
That's not going to happen. | ||
We just think it's too late for that. | ||
This is what I think. | ||
I think fighting as a sport should be as pure as possible. | ||
And it's not as pure as possible. | ||
I think kicks on the ground, soccer kicks, stomps, no cage. | ||
No gloves. | ||
What about mouthpiece? | ||
Yes. | ||
Mouthpiece is good because if you get punched, it's going to go straight through your fucking lips. | ||
Your teeth go through your lips. | ||
You can't have that bacteria, Joe. | ||
People get stabbed on their knuckles. | ||
Rogan's FC. I can see it coming now. | ||
You could get staff on your knuckles, though. | ||
That is a good point. | ||
Because when guys punch guys with bare teeth, like in street fights, they get staff all the time. | ||
All the time, yeah. | ||
More common than you'd think. | ||
And it's real dangerous. | ||
If you don't treat it, your fucking hand falls off. | ||
Gangrene and shit. | ||
Ew, it's nasty. | ||
Human mouth is gross. | ||
But just between the cage and the soccer kicks on the ground, how different the sport would evolve in five years? | ||
It would change. | ||
Just how different the techniques you guys would be using, everything you'd be doing. | ||
Kicks on the ground to the face they should already do. | ||
There would be combos where a guy's mounted like Vanderlei used to do. | ||
He'd get the mount, throw a couple punches, then stand up and stomp and walk away. | ||
That's a combo right there. | ||
If a guy can upkick you, you should be able to stomp him. | ||
100%. | ||
100%. | ||
It changes the game of jiu-jitsu tremendously. | ||
Especially with the elbows to the back of the head. | ||
Dude, you better make a move quick. | ||
You can't get turtled up. | ||
You should be able to fuck a dude up for turtling him. | ||
How many dudes would just get broken by that, though? | ||
How many careers would get caught way short? | ||
You see it coming. | ||
And after a while, the ref would go, you know, if you do this and hold it for three seconds and the guy didn't move, you stop the fight. | ||
You don't have to connect. | ||
It was like Gary Goodrich in one of his earlier fights, and he got him in the fucking crucifix. | ||
Oh, my God. | ||
That was probably the worst knockout I've ever seen. | ||
I was thinking of when Gary Goodrich grabbed a guy's dick. | ||
Yeah, I went full. | ||
The Pedro. | ||
What? | ||
Yeah, the Pedro, a dude in Brazil. | ||
He reached into his pants and grabbed his dick and balls and crushed it. | ||
Crushed it. | ||
I turned his nuts into peanut butter. | ||
For real? | ||
That actually happened. | ||
There was no rules. | ||
There was no rules. | ||
Zero. | ||
All sweaty and shit. | ||
Just crushed him nuts. | ||
The dude was wearing briefs. | ||
Brazilians like wearing those pro wrestling briefs. | ||
Gary Goodrich vs. | ||
Oh my god. | ||
Vicious groin attacks. | ||
That's it. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Damn, Jamie's good. | ||
That's after the fight he's trying to, hey man, you know, I'm just doing my thing. | ||
I swear I ripped your dick off. | ||
Jamie's on fire. | ||
What do you mean doing your thing? | ||
Grabbing my dick like that. | ||
Squoze your balls and dick. | ||
Peanut butter. | ||
Yeah, that's not good. | ||
So Kenny Robertson on top, Juan Carnero on the bottom looking for the arm triangle, not pulling it off. | ||
It's going to be hard to do anything else. | ||
I'm excited for Uriah Hall, Brunson. | ||
Me too. | ||
But he's coming after him. | ||
So Eddie, in this position, right, you want to underhook on that side, right? | ||
The side that has the half guard. | ||
Yeah, the guy on the bottom wants to get the underhook. | ||
Obviously the guy on top wanted to keep that underhook and keep that head and arm. | ||
And Cornero went right to it. | ||
He knows what he's doing. | ||
He went right to it. | ||
Went right to that undercook. | ||
He's not playing. | ||
He's trying to go underneath. | ||
He's super talented. | ||
I was going to say Alex Davis, his manager, was telling me about rolling with him. | ||
What a nightmare it is. | ||
He's got to get in there and go. | ||
You just can't stay there. | ||
This is the difference between just straight grappling and grappling a dude like Kenny Robertson's allowed to punch you in the face. | ||
Elbow you in the face. | ||
It changes everything. | ||
Oh, there he goes. | ||
He's going to the leg. | ||
Oh, shit. | ||
Can we do it? | ||
Oh, that's good defense. | ||
He paid for that, too. | ||
He's mounted. | ||
He's mounted. | ||
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Oh, good shrimp. | |
Now he's in butterfly. | ||
Let's see what he's got off his back. | ||
Now, this is where a rubber guard comes into play. | ||
Left, right arm, pin to the mat. | ||
I'm not sure he has the flexibility to play rubber guard. | ||
But if he could, it's a good place for it. | ||
If he had that Eddie knowledge, he could. | ||
Well, it's a flexibility issue, too. | ||
He's a friend of mine. | ||
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I gave him the DVD once, but I don't think he's flexible enough. | |
Huh? | ||
They're not working for him. | ||
He never went to it. | ||
That flexibility, son. | ||
When someone's a rubber guard player, they go to it right away. | ||
You just tell that's their stance. | ||
Yeah, it's your comfort zone. | ||
He's trying to set it off off of wrist control on the left arm. | ||
Nothing wrong with that. | ||
As long as you keep that clench. | ||
He's keeping that right arm tight. | ||
Oh, look at this. | ||
Good adjust. | ||
Good adjust. | ||
Oh, look what he's doing there. | ||
Holy shit, that's like a rat guard. | ||
Right there. | ||
That's what it's called? | ||
There's a guard called Rat Guard, and he's doing it. | ||
Love the name. | ||
Rat it up, rat it up. | ||
He's trying to go past that elbow. | ||
Wow, it's working. | ||
He's trying to go past that right elbow, but he's not sure how to commit it. | ||
Oh, shit! | ||
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He got him. | |
Oh, my goodness, he got him. | ||
That's amazing. | ||
That guard is legit. | ||
Oh, my God, that was amazing. | ||
Successful rat there. | ||
That was beautiful. | ||
Yeah, I gotta look into that. | ||
And he goes into a mounted triangle. | ||
Look at that. | ||
Kenny looked hurt, too. | ||
Yeah, that probably did not feel good. | ||
That did not look fun. | ||
Dude, I need to learn that. | ||
Rat Guard is actually the guy who made it up. | ||
I forget his name. | ||
Best name ever. | ||
I love it. | ||
Anyways, he's been doing it for like 10 years now. | ||
And he always called it Rubber Guard for guys that have no flexibility because I think he had an accident. | ||
He had an accident and hips all fucked up. | ||
So what Ron was doing right there, that's legit shit. | ||
Oh, obviously. | ||
It worked. | ||
I mean, look what it did. | ||
It changed the fight. | ||
He kept telling me, it's real, it's real, I swear. | ||
I'm like, I don't know. | ||
He's looking for that arm triangle. | ||
Look at that. | ||
Oh, he's gonna try to go for a Kimura now? | ||
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There it is! | |
That's the guy right there! | ||
That's the master rat. | ||
Jamie needs a raise. | ||
Goddamn, Jamie is the master. | ||
Jamie is the master on the ball. | ||
And the coffee tonight is extra fucking fresh. | ||
That's Caveman coffee, son. | ||
But now he turns it off. | ||
With a Jamie touch, though. | ||
I take back what I said. | ||
There it is. | ||
So this is Rat Guard. | ||
So that second round is over. | ||
So he's got the grip down. | ||
Hi, Rat Boys. | ||
It sounds very rat-like. | ||
Listen. | ||
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There's no way we're watching this whole thing while we're in the middle of a podcast. | |
Just the first control. | ||
The first thing he does. | ||
If you hate ratings. | ||
Watch, watch. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Just that first little control of you. | ||
Show a whole Rat Guard video. | ||
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That's exactly what he was doing. | |
Yeah. | ||
And then he swept him with it. | ||
He swept him with it and he turned it into a triangle. | ||
Okay, here we go. | ||
Round three. | ||
Powerful Rat Master. | ||
Oh shit, that's gonna blow up now. | ||
That's interesting. | ||
Juan Carnero on the ball, recognizing all sorts of different moves. | ||
That's one of the most important things about Jiu-Jitsu, right? | ||
Being able to understand all the new shit that's going on. | ||
Yeah, I never went to it. | ||
I never bothered playing it, only because I do have the flexibility. | ||
I didn't need to do that, but fuck. | ||
Seems like an interesting option. | ||
I'm sold now. | ||
I'm all over it now. | ||
See, Carnero's got to be super nervous now. | ||
I mean, Robertson's got to be super nervous now, being reversed in a position like that and put in a bad spot. | ||
His jiu-jitsu's really good, and he's got good wrestling, so that was a legit action. | ||
Oh, reverse, son! | ||
Get out! | ||
Get out, son! | ||
Oh, my goodness. | ||
Nice exchange. | ||
Nice. | ||
Robertson is... | ||
Oh, see? | ||
First team all dead boy. | ||
Get that cardio up, son. | ||
I would like to know, like, what is the very best method to prepare? | ||
I would really like to know, like, is it possible that Juan Carnero could have done something different and could be like Mighty Mouse here in this third round? | ||
Or is it simply a function of being 170 pounds, being a bigger man, cutting the weight down? | ||
Is it? | ||
I'm sure genetics has something to do with it. | ||
For sure. | ||
I would You can train your body to gas. | ||
That's what real sprinting is. | ||
Training your body to gas and recover. | ||
Gas, recover. | ||
You're on a clock. | ||
Gas, recover. | ||
Gas, recover. | ||
So you do it so much so you could be fucking dead tired in a match. | ||
And you're like, I'm going to recover in about 20 seconds. | ||
The fights are so unpredictable. | ||
You can train your body to do that. | ||
It's tough to train like that to a T. I don't think there's a perfect answer. | ||
I mean, there may be, but it's about optimization. | ||
Correct. | ||
How could you take a guy, whether it's Carnero, oh shit, beautiful left hook, or anybody, any fighter for that matter, and train them physically to a perfect state? | ||
Like turn Woodley into fucking Demetrius Johnson? | ||
Yeah. | ||
Well, you wouldn't. | ||
I mean, obviously Johnson doesn't have the kind of horsepower that Woodley has either. | ||
That's why I'm saying genetics is a huge part of it. | ||
Like the vehicle, the vessel you're messing with can only do so much. | ||
What I did was swim sprints, and what I liked about that is, first of all, I hate running, but when you're doing swim sprints, no matter how exhausted you get, like you do 20 of them or whatever, that's what I was doing. | ||
No matter how exhausted you get at 14, 15, and 16, when you're sprinting across the pool, your breathing has to be perfect. | ||
So there's all this chaos going on in your head and you're sprinting. | ||
Your breathing has to be perfect or you swallow water. | ||
So that's the beauty. | ||
And then there's the impact. | ||
There's no impact. | ||
It's a natural movement. | ||
And it makes you focus on your breathing when You know, you're at your worst possible state. | ||
I think also for jujitsu, it's really good because it's not just leg dependent. | ||
Because when you're running, your arms rarely get tired. | ||
What's getting tired are your legs. | ||
Like, almost only your legs. | ||
Your lungs and your legs. | ||
Your arms are obviously playing a part because you're pumping your arms and you're moving. | ||
But they're not getting nearly as tired as your fucking legs. | ||
Yeah. | ||
When you're swimming, your arms get tired as fuck. | ||
Tired as fuck. | ||
Great for me. | ||
And if you wear flippers, I bet your legs get even more work, right? | ||
But you can also do flippers on the hands, too. | ||
They have those with the hands. | ||
You could just doggy paddle. | ||
You don't even have to swim. | ||
You just have to sprint. | ||
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Yeah, that's some bullshit, but yeah. | |
You really need to get... | ||
If you want to do it right, you can get it with a swim coach so you can get efficient and learn how to really do it. | ||
Kane Robertson coming on strong here. | ||
Nice jab by Carnero. | ||
You can do it on your own. | ||
You don't need a trainer. | ||
The cool thing about swimming is if you do it on a clock where every time the clock hits 12, you sprint. | ||
However it takes you long to get across the pool, it could be 25 seconds, it could be 23 seconds, 27 seconds. | ||
You rest until that clock hits 12 again. | ||
So what you end up doing is you don't need anybody to tell you to push. | ||
You're sprinting for that rest time. | ||
It's a mindfuck. | ||
That's the beauty of the sprints in the water, too. | ||
You're sprinting To rest, because you know if you fuck up and you just kind of give up halfway through, you're going to fuck up the rotation, the clock, and now you've fucked your whole system up. | ||
Yeah, I love swimming. | ||
You've got to do that 20 times across a pool. | ||
You go to 24-hour fitness. | ||
It's like a 20-yard pool. | ||
I don't know, maybe 30-yard pool. | ||
Dude in the ocean if you're a gangster, son. | ||
Haunt our arrows running out of gas here. | ||
It's kind of hard in the ocean. | ||
Where do you stop and where do you go? | ||
You stop and a fucking shark gets you. | ||
You've got to have a clear start and stop point. | ||
Yeah, or you're just doing it for time. | ||
Exactly. | ||
You can do it for time. | ||
That's a whole different scenario. | ||
This is just for pure sprinting. | ||
Yeah, but you're doing off time until it hits the 12, right? | ||
Did they make heart rate monitors that work in the ocean? | ||
I don't know. | ||
I bought the new fucking iPhone 7 because I thought it could go to the ocean for this reason. | ||
Then I find out you can't go in the ocean with it. | ||
The iPhone 7 doesn't go in the ocean? | ||
Well, that's the salt, though, right? | ||
Salt is really bad for it. | ||
No, they say the water, like even if you drop in fresh water, you have like a couple minutes until it blows up. | ||
It's certified at 30 minutes. | ||
Oh, it's not really waterproof? | ||
It's like 30 minutes at 9 feet deep. | ||
What do you do for cardio? | ||
Your cardio must be nuts. | ||
Punch people in the face. | ||
Smoked cigarettes. | ||
You got a big fight coming up. | ||
What are you doing for cardio? | ||
I'll do a lot of running. | ||
Sprints? | ||
Yeah. | ||
How do you set it up? | ||
You don't just go jog. | ||
No, I'll jog at least three days a week, three to five miles, and then I'll do sprints. | ||
I used to do... | ||
How do you do your sprints? | ||
One mile sprint. | ||
Twice a week. | ||
A full mile. | ||
As hard as you can go. | ||
Yeah, and I would try to keep track of that time. | ||
What's your time, son? | ||
My fastest time ever, which I think is still on my Instagram, was like a 528 or something like that. | ||
That's rolling. | ||
And that was somebody in the car, like next to me, yelling at me, like keeping me motivated the whole time and just going to like, I couldn't go anymore. | ||
Have you ever gassed in a fight where you lost because you were just gassed? | ||
You didn't do proper cardio? | ||
Yeah. | ||
You have? | ||
A number of times. | ||
And then after that, you're like, fuck that. | ||
I'm going to get on. | ||
Your cardio's probably on point next fight, right? | ||
Yeah, for sure. | ||
That next fight. | ||
It's just... | ||
You know, there's so many... | ||
There's so many aspects of just your daily life that'll fuck up your cardio or fuck up your training camp. | ||
Where it's like... | ||
You were saying, like, where if Cornero would have done something slightly different. | ||
It was like, maybe his girlfriend was pissed off at him. | ||
And, you know, you don't know what else happened in his life. | ||
It'd just be crazy. | ||
And then you're like, well, did I fuck this up because I didn't train properly or because... | ||
My fucking car broke down and I couldn't, you know, whatever else happened in your life, so... | ||
Interesting. | ||
Yeah, like keeping peace in your life with anything you're trying to do. | ||
If you can keep peace in your personal life... | ||
The home life? | ||
Gigantic. | ||
Everything, man. | ||
Gigantic. | ||
Everything. | ||
Gigantic. | ||
Yeah, or you get sick, or you broke your fucking toe and now you can't run for that last couple weeks. | ||
Or there's a lot of guys who are distracted. | ||
Or you twisted your knee, or your shoulder joint was fucked up, now I can't do my swim sprints. | ||
All the shit that goes along behind the scenes with fighters is... | ||
How many guys do you know, Joe, especially in entertainment, being comedians who are out chasing tail all the time and they're distracted? | ||
Yeah, that'll do it. | ||
Athletes, too. | ||
I know athletes who do the same thing. | ||
Yeah, it gets in your way. | ||
Yeah, it gets in your way. | ||
Trip over your own dick. | ||
And people also use it as an excuse. | ||
They don't do everything they could do, so they always have that thing in the back of their head that there's room for improvement. | ||
And, yeah, next time. | ||
Next time I'll get it together. | ||
But, you know, most of the time that next time never comes. | ||
Your brain will give you these sort of escape routes. | ||
And that's one of the ones that, unfortunately, it seems so counterintuitive, but it happens to a lot of people. | ||
I've never seen more of it until I came to L.A. Carnero won. | ||
Interesting. | ||
Nice. | ||
He lost that last round. | ||
At least he looked like it. | ||
From what we're seeing. | ||
Because Kenny Robertson was coming out strong. | ||
But... | ||
Takedown, reversals, submission attempts. | ||
Obviously we didn't score it. | ||
The 30 seconds I saw I'd give to Canero. | ||
Well, the last round was interesting to me because Kenny kept charging after him. | ||
This is where Kenny reversed him. | ||
Is this all in the last round? | ||
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Boom! | |
Beautiful right hand. | ||
Boom with the left hook. | ||
Yeah, it's hard. | ||
We're talking shit while we're watching these things. | ||
Yeah, it's tough. | ||
I was thinking about Carl's Jr., to be honest. | ||
That fucking ad got me. | ||
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Carl's Jr.? | |
I'm jonesing for some junk food right now. | ||
Really? | ||
Yeah, I had a little junk food, and now I'm fucking jonesing. | ||
Oh, you cheated a little bit? | ||
I cheated a little bit would be understatement. | ||
You went off? | ||
I went off. | ||
Like a rocket? | ||
I went off like fucking Denzel Washington flight. | ||
You remember when he got into that movie? | ||
He's an alcoholic and they give him a mini fridge with just tons of stuff. | ||
He's trying to recover and just goes fucking nuts. | ||
That was me. | ||
Yeah. | ||
I'm back on it now, I hope, but that commercial fucking took me back to some dark places. | ||
The problem is if you get off ketosis, you've got to do something to get back on it again. | ||
Come on, son. | ||
I get the supplements. | ||
You taking ketones? | ||
Yeah. | ||
Ketosis. | ||
You're doing like the low carb thing? | ||
Yeah. | ||
Yeah, I've been on it for grip now. | ||
I feel great. | ||
Really? | ||
Yeah. | ||
I'm also not fat anymore, so... | ||
It's a plus. | ||
Big happy with that? | ||
Yeah. | ||
It's a super plus. | ||
Rick Glenn... | ||
And Evan Dunham. | ||
Evan Dunham? | ||
That motherfucker been fighting for a long time, man. | ||
Still around. | ||
Still around and cracking. | ||
He's a guy with phenomenal jiu-jitsu and just says, I want to bang. | ||
Yeah, he's got good striking too, though. | ||
His striking is good. | ||
Pretty good. | ||
His jiu-jitsu is phenomenal. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Real good. | ||
Yeah. | ||
It's gonna be an interesting... | ||
What is this Batman nonsense they're showing us in this commercial? | ||
Today's National Batman Day. | ||
Is it really? | ||
Yeah, my kids were all about it today. | ||
National Batman Day. | ||
Dude, it's National Batman Day, Dad. | ||
Fuck, I didn't know. | ||
Batman the Telltale... | ||
Oh, so they made a DVD? No, it's a video game for Xbox. | ||
Oh, it's a video game? | ||
Yeah, a video game. | ||
I'd play the fuck of that if I don't have a kid. | ||
We just bought a Batman toy from today. | ||
Worships Batman. | ||
Boys love it. | ||
Today is National Batman Day. | ||
I didn't know that. | ||
I didn't know that. | ||
My six-year-old told me this morning. | ||
Wow. | ||
So what do you... | ||
Ah, fuck, I have a Batman shirt. | ||
I was like, should I wear this shirt? | ||
I was like, they're not gonna know. | ||
These guys aren't worth it. | ||
And then send me a text, where's your Batman? | ||
I would have rocked the Batman. | ||
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Fuck. | |
I got the old school Adam West tee. | ||
It's fucking dope. | ||
Really? | ||
Yeah, I got it from Junk Food. | ||
Did you ever read the story of Adam West and Wonder Boy, whatever his name is, Boy Wonder? | ||
They were just fucking everything that moves back then. | ||
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No! | |
Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
He wrote a book about it. | ||
The dude who played Robin wrote a book about how much pussy they were getting. | ||
Oh my god, I want to read that. | ||
Good for him. | ||
They were a big deal. | ||
Those are the stories they never talk about, usually. | ||
They never talk about that shit. | ||
Guys always keep that shit secret. | ||
Are you telling me Robin was getting pussy? | ||
I have a hard time believing that. | ||
Dude, are you crazy? | ||
Nah, Robin was in the corner watching Batman 5 Girls. | ||
Urkel gets pussy. | ||
Come on. | ||
Urkel. | ||
Yes. | ||
If you're on TV, that's a wrap, dude. | ||
It's a wrap. | ||
He probably got so much pussy, he's still catching his breath. | ||
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Yeah. | |
He'll come back on TV in another year or so. | ||
He's like, I'm not ready. | ||
I'm not ready to come back. | ||
I'm just recovering. | ||
Just get my electrolytes in order. | ||
Corey Feldman. | ||
Corey Feldman. | ||
He made an appearance on some talk show with his band and their own girls in angel suits. | ||
It's a nightmare. | ||
It's a fucking nightmare. | ||
Oh my god. | ||
I saw that today. | ||
It was incredible. | ||
It was amazing. | ||
He was at a minor league baseball game doing the same shit, and there were seven people. | ||
Yeah, that's what we were looking at, right? | ||
There was that band. | ||
Holy shit. | ||
It's Corey Feldman's Angels. | ||
How could it be worse? | ||
It's hysterical. | ||
It was on Today Show. | ||
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Please show us. | |
It was on Today Show. | ||
They put them on here, I think, to fuck with them. | ||
This is it. | ||
This is it. | ||
The Today Show done put people on to clown them. | ||
Look at this band. | ||
He got trolled. | ||
It's like his dance to start his performance. | ||
Oh my god. | ||
That is sick. | ||
Can you play it up there? | ||
This is viral, right? | ||
So if you play it up there, no one's looking at it, right? | ||
No one will see it. | ||
You can't play this sound? | ||
Just give us a little something something. | ||
Hey, for sure make Lost Boys remake and quit doing this grab ass with these angels. | ||
Listen, do you think it's up to him? | ||
It's not up to him. | ||
He could... | ||
Well, yeah, it's probably not up to him. | ||
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Look at this. | |
Isn't this a crazy promo? | ||
Look at this. | ||
Michael Bisping versus Dan Henderson for the UFC Middleweight Championship. | ||
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Holy fuck. | |
This is crazy. | ||
It's fucking insane. | ||
That's going to be a wild-ass fucking fight in Manchester. | ||
Because those Brits are going to go bananas. | ||
Bisbing's never lost there. | ||
And also, you've got a four-man tournament of just the fucking who's who monsters fucking waiting in the wings. | ||
With Jacare Rockhold and Melbourne. | ||
How about Yoel Romero versus Chris Weidman? | ||
What do you mean a tournament? | ||
They're doing like a one-night tournament? | ||
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What do you mean? | |
No, I just call it tournament, but whoever wins that is fucking... | ||
You can't say tournament when you're next to Joe Schilling. | ||
I get excited when I get this. | ||
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I'm like, they should fucking do that tournament that night. | |
Cancel the main event, just do the one-night tournament. | ||
Real, real tournament against the best guys. | ||
I'm talking UFC tournament, where I make them up in my mind. | ||
Did you see Jason Willness and Simon Marcus the other night? | ||
I did. | ||
I did. | ||
Crazy, right? | ||
Yeah. | ||
Crazy. | ||
It was weird how, first of all, not weird that Willness knocked him out because he could knock anybody out, but weird that Simon, at the end of that round, when he was letting him punch him, was that odd to you? | ||
Yeah. | ||
I mean, kind of. | ||
I think Simon... | ||
I think Simon and his coach had a falling out recently, and I think that it might have something to do with him losing. | ||
Oh, yeah? | ||
That's always tough. | ||
He looks so good in that first round. | ||
When you fight Simon, it's very ego-based. | ||
I don't know, ego-based is the right word, but he's a tough guy. | ||
You know what I mean? | ||
Even in that fight, when Jason would do well against him with land shots, you would see Simon like, and then come back with this big thing. | ||
I think that's what it was. | ||
I'm going to drop my hands and let this guy hit me. | ||
It also looked like he was slowing down a little bit. | ||
He looked a little tired, yeah. | ||
He's so jacked. | ||
He's so jacked for a fighter, you know? | ||
Especially for a kickboxing. | ||
Yeah. | ||
How about that chick that fought Misha Tate? | ||
Amanda Nunes? | ||
No, no, not her. | ||
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Not her. | |
Shit. | ||
Who fought Joanne Calderwood, the Brazilian that yoke Brazilian? | ||
Oh, yeah, yeah. | ||
Jessica Andrade. | ||
Holy shit. | ||
She's a beast. | ||
She dropped down to 115. She's fighting at 135. She's too small. | ||
Because she's only like 5'3 or 5'2, I think. | ||
She might be 5'2". | ||
You know what? | ||
Pull that up, because she might not even be 5 feet tall. | ||
Little beast, though. | ||
She's so jacked. | ||
How... | ||
Her back is just... | ||
A little Vanderlei. | ||
How did that happen? | ||
I don't know. | ||
And with USADA? Acai, son. | ||
Listen, it's natural. | ||
How dare you? | ||
Some of them are just jacked. | ||
How tall is she, Jamie? | ||
It's natural? | ||
I don't know. | ||
I don't know. | ||
She's 5'3"? | ||
She might be lying. | ||
She looks like Sean. | ||
We're in a weird day and age where anybody that has muscle has to be ducing. | ||
Yes. | ||
There are freaks, for sure. | ||
It's weird to me when I see girls that are built like dudes. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Or dudes that are built like girls. | ||
I mean, if chicks that are built like dudes are not on the juice, then who the fuck is? | ||
Show me the ones that are. | ||
Damn, they must be way bigger. | ||
Hold on, though, because there's levels of testosterone naturally in some people. | ||
Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
But there are some girls that are just naturally jacked. | ||
And wouldn't you think most girls that sign up for fighting are going to be- Can we see other pictures, Jamie? | ||
They tend to have more testosterone just naturally? | ||
I would assume. | ||
Maybe. | ||
Just hanging out in all the gyms? | ||
Just taking fighter loads? | ||
If you go down that road, you're usually not going to win fucking Miss America unless you're Paige Vanity. | ||
From having sex with fighters, the hot loads coming in, those, you know- There might be some truth to that, Joe. | ||
They're all an EPO. How do they end up wanting to be fighters? | ||
They're at the gym all the time hanging out. | ||
Exactly. | ||
And they're like, oh, I've been here for three years. | ||
And I think I learned some shit. | ||
I think I know some shit. | ||
Well, here's the thing they've shown about women is that women, when they are forced to be the breadwinner, when women, like when they become single or they have to take care of their kids and they have to work, their testosterone ramps up. | ||
It actually changes. | ||
When they're forced into a position where they have to earn their money out there in the competitive world, they actually develop more testosterone. | ||
Don't ask me where I got this. | ||
Ask me to cite my sources. | ||
Maybe it's because she's short. | ||
She looks yoked because she's short. | ||
She's jacked. | ||
There's no doubt about it. | ||
Look at Liz Carmouche. | ||
She's jacked too. | ||
She missed no days doing curls. | ||
Zero. | ||
She's a tank. | ||
She's a new fight too. | ||
Yeah, right? | ||
Did they announce that? | ||
Yeah, they did. | ||
I forget who. | ||
Who is she fighting? | ||
I forget. | ||
Yeah, I don't care. | ||
Hey, uh... | ||
I don't give a fuck. | ||
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Hey, how about... | |
How about Bada Hari versus, uh, fucking Rico... | ||
Rico Verhoeven, yeah. | ||
December 10th. | ||
We got a real expert here. | ||
Oh, man. | ||
Bata Hari, I'll always be a fan, but I think, timing-wise, I think that Rico's gonna beat him, probably. | ||
I like that they gave Bata a long time to train. | ||
Yeah. | ||
I mean, we're here in September, and he's been training hard since August. | ||
Yeah. | ||
He's put all these videos on Instagram marking the days. | ||
Is he jacked? | ||
Yeah. | ||
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What? | |
Of course he's jacked. | ||
I mean, they're like, he's got September, October, November, and December. | ||
Rico Verhoeven is fucking huge. | ||
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Jacked! | |
That guy, like, in person, you're just like, fuck. | ||
Did you see him beat the fuck the other night on that Silva guy? | ||
Yeah. | ||
God. | ||
Anderson Brown. | ||
Anderson Brown. | ||
Yeah, he beat the fuck out of him. | ||
That guy's not that big, though. | ||
I mean, he's big. | ||
He's not big enough. | ||
He's not, like, shockingly huge. | ||
No, no. | ||
Rico literally just toyed with him. | ||
Rico's huge. | ||
But he also has sick cardio. | ||
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Yeah. | |
He's a sick athlete, too. | ||
He's a great athlete. | ||
Shredded, too. | ||
He was part of Tyson Fury's sparring for his fights. | ||
Oh, really? | ||
Yeah. | ||
Wow. | ||
Genius. | ||
He did that a couple years ago. | ||
That is super genius. | ||
Yeah, smart. | ||
Powerful Bruce Buffer in every show. | ||
That motherfucker travels. | ||
That motherfucker, they go, hey, you sure you don't want a break? | ||
Nah, I'll go to every show. | ||
Yeah, he does every fucking show. | ||
Now he's doing his podcast, and I caught his podcast the other day. | ||
It's pretty good. | ||
That motherfucker blew his knee out, too. | ||
Yeah, he blew his knee out in a karaoke contest. | ||
Missed three days. | ||
Fucking came back in a white tuxedo. | ||
I talked to him about that. | ||
I told him to get the surgery. | ||
He's like, Joe, I think I'm not going to get the surgery. | ||
I go, why? | ||
He goes, I don't want to take the time off work. | ||
I'm like, are you fucking out of your mind? | ||
I go, get your knee fixed. | ||
No, he's gangster, man. | ||
In that world, man, you got to hustle. | ||
That world. | ||
It's like being a quarterback in the NFL. Tom Brady, you slip up. | ||
There's someone behind you. | ||
Can we get on that mic and come up with something instead of his time? | ||
Who's the guy behind Bruce Buffer? | ||
There's nobody behind Bruce Buffer. | ||
Oh, there's someone waiting in the fucking wings. | ||
Who's the guy biting at his heels to scream, fucking, let's get it on over there? | ||
Probably some adopted brother they don't know about. | ||
If some dude... | ||
If some dude comes in and tries to do Bruce Buffer while Bruce Buffer's gone, he'll be booed out of the fucking arena. | ||
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I think he'd be surprised. | |
He's going to have to do his own shit. | ||
I think he'd be surprised. | ||
Are you crazy? | ||
Because there's Bruce Buffer and there's Michael Buffer. | ||
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So, let's get ready to rumble! | |
Right? | ||
And it's time! | ||
Then you can get some new dude in there who just fucking remixes it. | ||
Yeah, but that's not going to happen because we would know who that guy is. | ||
It's a black dude. | ||
He would already be doing it somewhere. | ||
It's a black dude, for sure. | ||
Beatboxing is not going to work in the Midwest. | ||
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I disagree. | |
Nobody could do Bruce Buffer. | ||
Nobody. | ||
Nobody. | ||
He's the best. | ||
Oh, I'm not saying they are. | ||
They're going to do their own shit and flip the script. | ||
That's what Bruce is worried about. | ||
Right now, you're fucking with him. | ||
That's why I'm taking these days off. | ||
He's never taking a day off. | ||
No, thanks a lot. | ||
You're crazy if some young kid's not just thinking about it. | ||
These guys are going off here. | ||
We're talking shit, and Evan Dunham just landed in a beautiful combination. | ||
It's hard not to root for Evan Dunham. | ||
He's been doing it for so long. | ||
He has, man. | ||
It's a tough fucking game. | ||
Ooh, beautiful shot. | ||
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Very good timing. | |
I don't know anything about his opponent. | ||
Is he still training out of Vegas? | ||
He was with Extreme Couture Faux. | ||
Yeah, for a long time, right? | ||
He was with Ray. | ||
I don't know. | ||
I don't know where he's at now. | ||
He's got his own school now. | ||
Did Ray stop training guys once he signed up to the World Series of Fighting thing? | ||
No, he was there the other day with Brad Tavares. | ||
Brad Tavares, who's been one of his students forever. | ||
For a while. | ||
Brad looked real good, man. | ||
Real sharp. | ||
He had a big winning streak and then fell off a little bit, but he's back now, right? | ||
Well, he fought Yoel Romero, son. | ||
That'll do it. | ||
That'll fuck your whole schedule up. | ||
That'll make you realize. | ||
That'll fuck your life up. | ||
Like, there's some people that can just move different than you can. | ||
Ah, we're built different. | ||
And you're a lot older, sir. | ||
He's a freak. | ||
So it's Yoel and Weidman and then Jocker. | ||
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Look at this. | |
Look, Japanese necktie right there. | ||
Look at that. | ||
Japanese necktie. | ||
Japanese necktie. | ||
Oh! | ||
Beautiful escape. | ||
You see how he freed his leg? | ||
Yeah. | ||
That's what it was all about right there. | ||
Yeah. | ||
It's getting that leg free. | ||
And he pulled it off. | ||
He was in deep shit. | ||
Deep shit? | ||
That was one of the first Japanese neckties ever in the UFC. Yeah, it was perfect! | ||
That's what I meant by tournament, Joe. | ||
You know what I'm saying? | ||
Like, it's not a real tournament. | ||
You know what I'm saying? | ||
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Joe and Joe. | |
Joe squared. | ||
You know what I'm saying? | ||
It's not a real tournament, but in my mind, I was like, we got ourselves a middleweight tournament. | ||
Well, Jacare versus Luke Rockhold, too, is very interesting. | ||
Especially because Luke's been getting all that model pussy. | ||
He might be exhausted. | ||
He's getting that Demi Lovato, New York model. | ||
That shit will fuck your life up, son. | ||
Or take your next level. | ||
I just am shocked that he's not fighting Weidman again. | ||
I felt like that would be the fight to make. | ||
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Me too. | |
The fight to make would be Weidman vs. | ||
Rockhold 2, not Jacare vs. | ||
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Weidman. | |
What do you do with Jacarello and Romero? | ||
One more time! | ||
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We had a little problem with the drug test last time, boys. | |
We're going to run it all back. | ||
Run it back! | ||
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Let's see what happens when you're not on the happy song. | |
Let's run this shit back. | ||
You both gotta be clean. | ||
I like Weidman vs. | ||
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Romero. | |
I like Weidman in there. | ||
I was under the impression that Jacare won that fight for some strange reason. | ||
I did too. | ||
I guess Romero won a decision, but then it turned out that he tested positive for some peptide or something like that, and they found the supplement that he said he took, they tested it, it was positive, so he gets a shorter break. | ||
Check this out, man. | ||
There's plenty of time left, and he's on his back. | ||
And Denham is a finisher. | ||
We still don't have any info on John, right? | ||
So this is the spot where Kenny Robertson caught that knee bar. | ||
It's right here. | ||
Very similar, yes. | ||
Right here. | ||
And you do it with the head as well, right? | ||
So the guy can't lean back. | ||
To be honest with you, I don't... | ||
Oh, he's got the best one right. | ||
It should be over. | ||
We're talking about all this jiu-jitsu. | ||
There you go. | ||
Ba-ba-boom. | ||
Oh, man. | ||
Oh, he is squirming. | ||
Oh, it's over, son. | ||
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It's over. | |
Go ahead and just touch that elbow for me. | ||
Go ahead and touch that elbow for me. | ||
Is he going to gut it out? | ||
Oh, it's getting tighter, son. | ||
It is getting tighter. | ||
Go to sleep, sweet prince. | ||
Go to sleep. | ||
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Oh, he's out! | |
Amazing. | ||
Brilliant defense. | ||
So do you go for it again, 58 seconds ago? | ||
100%. | ||
Yeah, you go for it again. | ||
He might go for an arm bar right here. | ||
Yeah, Evan Dunham. | ||
Looking good. | ||
He's been fighting forever. | ||
So this is a position... | ||
Look, he's looking for an armbar. | ||
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Look at that. | |
Look at that. | ||
He's ready for it. | ||
Look at this. | ||
He's going for it. | ||
Shift to the hips. | ||
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There he goes. | |
30 seconds. | ||
Wow. | ||
Yeah, he's attacking. | ||
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Yeah. | |
30 seconds. | ||
Not much time left. | ||
It's so rare that you see someone hit that arm bar from the back when they're going for the choke. | ||
Or even take him to the truck and hit him with the calf slicer. | ||
Or a twister. | ||
Oh, he's going to try to pin that arm. | ||
Oh, there he goes. | ||
Oh, lost it. | ||
Oh, shit. | ||
Didn't get the hips up in time. | ||
There's a lot of grease going on there. | ||
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Yeah. | |
Look at that. | ||
Oh, one more time. | ||
Flatten him out. | ||
Poundage. | ||
Go for poundage. | ||
Oh, he got half guard back. | ||
How about fucking... | ||
Ooh, elbow from the bottom. | ||
Nasty elbow from the bottom. | ||
Dude, how about Stipe's ground and pound on Overeem? | ||
Dude, Overeem... | ||
I've been thinking about that this whole time. | ||
Like, how fucking hard did he hit him with those three shots? | ||
Perfect shots, too. | ||
Fucking perfect. | ||
Perfect placement. | ||
When that guy was stacking him earlier, and he fucking hit the guy in the head, and we're just talking about the triangle. | ||
I'm like, he has some of those fucking... | ||
Think how hard Stipe hits. | ||
Stipe shots have been fucking over right there. | ||
But also, Overeem's not as that, you know... | ||
His motherboard, message board, has been hit a bunch of times. | ||
Yeah, well, that's why after the fight I said I don't want to do interviews with fighters after they got knocked out again. | ||
I appreciate that. | ||
We should never do that. | ||
We all appreciate that. | ||
When he said that, when he said that... | ||
As I was watching it, I was like, I don't fucking talk. | ||
When he said the guy tapped, I was like, fuck, imagine if he tapped? | ||
Like, are we going to see a tap? | ||
Like, I had no idea. | ||
You don't know if you missed something during the actual calling of a fight because it's happening live and it's so chaotic. | ||
And it's right after Alistair dropped him, then he went for the guillotine, then all of a sudden they're on their feet again. | ||
It happened so fast. | ||
When he said it, he was so adamant. | ||
Yeah, it's got knocked out. | ||
What about the truck in the back though, Joe? | ||
Aren't they going, Joe, he didn't tap. | ||
Do you really want to show this? | ||
No, they don't know. | ||
They don't know. | ||
They watch the fight live. | ||
They watch the fight live. | ||
You want to find out. | ||
You want to find out whether he tapped, maybe he tapped, maybe he didn't. | ||
You find out, it's entertaining. | ||
It's totally possible that if he did tap that someone saw it in the truck, they would have said it. | ||
But they didn't say it, but they're like, we'll play it for you. | ||
And I said, okay, we're going to play it. | ||
And so they had it queued up, they played it, and then he was still insistent. | ||
I'm like, okay, well, maybe it's the other hand. | ||
But I was thinking, man, this does not look good. | ||
But it has to be solved. | ||
It has to be resolved. | ||
You know, when a guy says the guy tapped, you have to show it. | ||
It's part of the game. | ||
Let's check it out. | ||
You have to show it. | ||
But I wish we didn't interview him at all. | ||
I think the guy has to have a chance. | ||
He was completely unconscious. | ||
And it took him a while to just get back to his feet. | ||
And to have a conversation with him about strategy, about where it went wrong. | ||
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The sense. | |
Insane. | ||
It's crazy. | ||
It doesn't make any sense. | ||
No other sport does that. | ||
Here we go again. | ||
Here we go again. | ||
Japanese that time. | ||
One more time. | ||
But he doesn't have the leg at all right there. | ||
He's got to switch it to a darts. | ||
This is some serious shit. | ||
Serious shit right here. | ||
Even if it's not a knockout, a guy loses and gets submitted or whatever. | ||
But even in other sports. | ||
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What are we going to say to you? | |
This sucks. | ||
I wish I would have won. | ||
Yeah, even in other sports, like the NFL, if a guy has a concussion, he's not doing interviews, man. | ||
He's not right in the head. | ||
If a guy breaks his leg or tears a knee, they're not interviewing him. | ||
Because what the fuck's he going to see? | ||
You know what kind of fucking frame of mind that guy's in? | ||
It's nuts. | ||
So you're 100% right, Joe. | ||
I love that. | ||
Well, you know, it's something I had suggested a long time ago, back when we interviewed Mirko Krokop after Gonzaga knocked him out. | ||
I was looking in his eyes, man. | ||
That night? | ||
You guys interviewed him? | ||
Yeah, I interviewed him right after the fight. | ||
And I was like, we can't do that anymore. | ||
And I said it to him, and we just kept doing it. | ||
What if it's good for ratings? | ||
If they get knocked out, guaranteed interview. | ||
It can't be good, though. | ||
I'm not doing it anymore. | ||
I mean, they don't even show him on the ground anymore. | ||
They pan away on the camera. | ||
Did they tell you yes or no, Joe? | ||
I don't care. | ||
I'm not doing it anymore. | ||
You're going to do it. | ||
I'm not doing it. | ||
Sir, look at me. | ||
Shut the fuck up. | ||
You're going to fuck up. | ||
If guys get knocked the fuck out, if someone really wants to talk to them, they're going to have to talk to them. | ||
I'm not talking to anybody anymore. | ||
Bruce Buffer's going to jump in that bitch. | ||
How are you feeling? | ||
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Bruce will do a great job. | |
Well, it's time for me to interview you. | ||
Joe, I'll take it from here. | ||
Thank you, sir. | ||
I know you hate this part. | ||
I got a raise. | ||
I'm doing it out of respect for the game. | ||
Yeah, I don't think we need to, and I think the UFC agrees. | ||
It's better for the sport. | ||
Well, it made Alistair look bad, and I think if you gave him a few hours or even a day to talk about it, he probably would realize that that never happened. | ||
It was just his brain was scrambled. | ||
Well, even Stipe, when you're talking to him, he's like, yeah, he hit me with a kick. | ||
No, sir, that was a punch. | ||
Well, he said the guy kicks hard. | ||
He didn't make any sense. | ||
He did get kicked hard in the body. | ||
Yeah, he did. | ||
And, I mean, he could have been mentioning that, but he probably didn't realize what knocked him down. | ||
He was concussed, too. | ||
Yeah, most likely. | ||
Oh, yeah. | ||
Oh, sir? | ||
Yes. | ||
Yeah, the way he got dropped. | ||
Yeah, flatline drop. | ||
And he got staggered more than once. | ||
He got staggered twice, at least twice in that first round. | ||
Dude, so much pressure on Stipe. | ||
Hometown, I was so... | ||
Happy for me? | ||
Dude, you ain't heard roars like the Cleveland crowd for Stipe. | ||
It's like Dublin for Connor. | ||
It's crazy. | ||
Cleveland is... | ||
Maybe... | ||
Finally, Cleveland... | ||
Bring it back. | ||
Bring it back. | ||
It's not quite like Dublin. | ||
But... | ||
But they love him, man. | ||
And Cleveland is a badass town, man. | ||
I had heard that it was experiencing this resurgence. | ||
It's a fun town. | ||
Those people were fun. | ||
Because of LeBron and Ohio State. | ||
I've always been a Browns fan. | ||
That's terrible. | ||
I'm not really into football that much anymore, but... | ||
I did watch last week's Browns game on fast forward on DVR. I didn't even watch their defense. | ||
I just fast forward to their offense and they played like shit. | ||
And usually you feel like garbage after spending three hours watching football and your team scores one touchdown. | ||
You're like, I fucking wasted my whole day, sat through all these fucking commercials for this bullshit ass performance. | ||
You feel like shit. | ||
But when you fast forward through it all and you're like, oh, I wouldn't have wasted my time. | ||
I went through the whole game in 20 minutes. | ||
I felt great. | ||
They look like shit. | ||
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I felt great. | |
That's not how you watch a game. | ||
It's just not. | ||
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That's so fucking wrong. | |
Did you drive here in a Hyundai? | ||
They almost stole three hours from me. | ||
If I would have just sat through this shit, it's beautiful. | ||
You didn't want to do that back in the day because there's too many spoilers. | ||
Everybody's watching TV and there's just spoilers everywhere. | ||
But now, everyone's in their own little compartment on the internet. | ||
I'm like, I never know the goddamn scores. | ||
So you can DVR a game. | ||
That's what I'm going to do tomorrow. | ||
I'm not going to... | ||
Spend a kill a Sunday watching football and wasting my time. | ||
I am with my son. | ||
I force him to watch it at six months old. | ||
I'm going to watch it at two in the morning on Fast Forward. | ||
It's the greatest. | ||
Well, now we know that. | ||
You know they're going to... | ||
They might have done it or they're doing it soon. | ||
Is Canelo Smith tonight? | ||
Yes, sir, it is. | ||
And it's a good fucking fight if you know about the Smith family. | ||
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Four brothers. | |
Four brothers. | ||
Two of them are going to be world champions. | ||
All four pro boxers. | ||
It's nuts, man. | ||
That's a tough fight for Canelo, too. | ||
That Smith is a fucking monster, man. | ||
Is he? | ||
I didn't really know anything about him. | ||
He's tough, tough. | ||
Dude, after that Kell Brook fight, I want to see Canelo versus him. | ||
Gennady Golovkin? | ||
Yeah, Gennady Golovkin and Canelo would be the shoot. | ||
Dude, how about Kovalev versus fucking Andre Ward in November? | ||
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That's amazing. | |
We should do a fight campaign for that. | ||
Okay, I'm in. | ||
Yes! | ||
If I'm not doing something better. | ||
Who's celebrating online? | ||
People are crumped for that. | ||
We should do a fight companion for Turkish oil wrestling. | ||
We should. | ||
We gotta find out when the date is, like their world championships. | ||
Get Calum in here to get real good. | ||
Oh dude, Calum take over. | ||
That shit is only on YouTube. | ||
You have to go there live and bring your phone. | ||
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Do you remember the comedy? | |
Callan would come out of Callan's mouth. | ||
He would be crushing. | ||
He probably has a Turkish accent on the deck. | ||
He's probably done it before and shit. | ||
We should. | ||
They gotta have world championships. | ||
There's gotta be some hickson of Turkish oil wrestling. | ||
Yeah. | ||
He's too busy sucking dicks. | ||
It's like, instead of getting drunk and gambling, this guy just blows guys. | ||
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That's just... | |
He sucks too many dicks and he has to take time off. | ||
And that's when he starts losing. | ||
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Too many dicks. | |
So he's talking about interviews, how he cut the dick out. | ||
He's like, no more dicks. | ||
I haven't had any dick in training camp and I feel really good. | ||
I dig one dick on Sunday. | ||
That's it. | ||
Cheat day It's like when the Sunday count is waiting That's so much I might pay attention this is I thought that was the third round I thought that was the end of the fight. | ||
Evan Dunham still going strong. | ||
They raised their hands after that round like it was over and I thought, damn, that was quick. | ||
We're not paying attention. | ||
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Yeah. | |
That's one of the craziest thing about kickboxing is that when you go to the third round in those tournaments, if it's a draw, they'd make you guys fight a fourth round. | ||
What the fuck is that feeling like? | ||
It sucks. | ||
I'm not going to lie. | ||
It sucks. | ||
Because going into that third round, you're like, fuck, this is it. | ||
All or nothing. | ||
Fuck, motherfucker. | ||
I've got to do this. | ||
And then you go back and look at your coach and you're like, I think it's going to be the next round. | ||
And you're like, fuck. | ||
No. | ||
That Simon fight, I remember thinking, I don't want to. | ||
I don't fucking want to. | ||
And then we had to go another round, and it ended up working out great for me. | ||
But I was not happy about it. | ||
If you guys both agree to flip a coin at the end, it's like, do you want to fight? | ||
Do you want to fight? | ||
Okay, let's just flip a coin. | ||
I'm sure he felt the same way, too. | ||
He didn't want to do it either. | ||
Well, he kept spitting his mouthpiece out. | ||
I think his nose was shattered or broken, so he couldn't close his mouth because he couldn't breathe. | ||
So you get all this blood and shit, and you're like, fuck, I can't breathe. | ||
And then his mouthpiece kept coming out. | ||
Hmm. | ||
Hey, so... | ||
Which happens a lot, actually. | ||
When you see guys in their noses, like, bleeding like crazy, is usually when you'll see the mouthpiece start falling out, because they just can't breathe. | ||
Brendan, I got a question for you real quick. | ||
Well, hold on real quick. | ||
Our boy, Callan, he's doing shows in New York, and there's an explosion half a mile from him, so his show got canceled. | ||
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What? | |
Yeah, he just texted me and was like, Hey, brother, I'm sure you saw the news. | ||
My show got canceled because there's an explosion in New York. | ||
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What? | |
What's he talking about? | ||
Terrorist shit? | ||
Hillary false flag right there. | ||
Is that that big of a deal, quote unquote, they're saying online right now? | ||
That's my guess. | ||
They're body double. | ||
Hold on, let him talk. | ||
You know she died on the 11th. | ||
Guys, let him talk. | ||
25, 26 people have been injured. | ||
No deaths. | ||
There's a second device. | ||
It's an explosion. | ||
They're not calling it a bomb. | ||
They're not saying terrorism. | ||
Nothing crazy like that right now. | ||
Oh, come on. | ||
Callum shows canceled, though. | ||
Callum was, uh, he said, uh, half a blocker. | ||
He says half a blocker, half a mile in one, so I don't know, but he said his show's canceled, and it was nuts. | ||
But he's okay. | ||
He goes, there's going to be a false flag event. | ||
Watch Hillary's on her, uh, on, apparently, uh, She's not looking too good, Hillary. | ||
She's super sick. | ||
That's what people are saying. | ||
Well, like, September 11th, she left the event early and, like, passed out. | ||
Yeah, she's fainting. | ||
Collapsed and fainted and shit. | ||
She's got, like, a fucking shit bag in her pants. | ||
Manhattan explosion. | ||
Alex Jones had some physician on, and he said she's showing signs of some kind of brain tumor or something. | ||
But Alex Jones is so far... | ||
Like, he used to come across like he had, like, good shit, but he was just kind of crazy. | ||
Now he's like so far the other way that I just can't take him seriously. | ||
Like, even if his shit is true, like, he's just, he's like, oh, the globalists, the elites. | ||
I'm not giving you my godmother. | ||
It says the explosion wasn't terrorism, but it was done intentionally, so. | ||
So that means someone from here would do it? | ||
But isn't terrorism terrorism? | ||
Maybe someone just wanted to get rid of their building. | ||
He's got a shitty building. | ||
He was calling it. | ||
He said, you know what? | ||
With all this Hillary shit going on, they're panicking. | ||
They don't know if they're going to stick Bernie Sanders in or they're going to put Biden in. | ||
How can they do that? | ||
Or they're going to suspend the election, keep Obama in longer. | ||
They're about to make a big-ass decision right now. | ||
Hillary apparently is not... | ||
You're so excited. | ||
I'm just happy. | ||
I was waiting for this topic. | ||
I have no idea. | ||
That's just what I hear. | ||
I don't know shit. | ||
That's just what I hear. | ||
Who knows? | ||
This could all be a trick. | ||
Well, I mean, whenever you're dealing with someone like a Hillary Clinton, and she's super sick, and you're leading up to the election, and she just doesn't look healthy, she's fainting and stuff. | ||
No, she's old, man. | ||
She's old, and she's of poor health, and she had a serious concussion a few years back. | ||
Concussion? | ||
Real bad. | ||
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From what? | |
She fainted, fell down, and hit her head. | ||
And apparently had a brain aneurysm, and was bleeding internally. | ||
That's how... | ||
I'm not saying it had anything to do with Parkinson's or these fainting spells that she has. | ||
Usually when you have this disease, whatever it is, they usually die from the falls. | ||
They usually die and they just crack their head on the cement and that's what they die from. | ||
Alex Jones, he's saying, according to his physicians, and he's saying that he's got a connection in the Secret Service. | ||
It's a fucking scrap. | ||
We're watching a crazy fight. | ||
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It's a fucking scrap scrap. | |
We're just talking stupid shit about Hillary Clinton. | ||
Fuck Hillary and her Tourette's. | ||
This is about the ruler of the world here. | ||
That's what we're talking about. | ||
We're not talking about just some... | ||
Oh! | ||
Oh! | ||
Oh, he's fucked up, son. | ||
Look at that. | ||
Oh, he's on zombie mode. | ||
Oh, shit. | ||
He's going for it, though. | ||
Karate Kid zombie mode. | ||
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Oh! | |
Armbar! | ||
And then it's over. | ||
Oh, sick! | ||
Get it, son! | ||
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Oh, fuck! | |
The bell? | ||
It's crazy. | ||
God bless you. | ||
Can you imagine if you were to hit that armbar? | ||
How nice was Verdum's flying fucking sidekick? | ||
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I loved it. | |
I fucking loved it. | ||
And he kept doing the fucking cartwheel clicks. | ||
Guys, we can't talk over each other. | ||
It's horrible to listen to. | ||
Regulate them. | ||
Tell them. | ||
We gotta definitely not do that. | ||
But yeah, it was a crazy kick. | ||
It was a crazy kick. | ||
He's done it before though. | ||
He did it when he fought over him in Pride. | ||
People forget. | ||
It landed him? | ||
He did it before, yeah. | ||
Oh shit. | ||
Really? | ||
Yeah. | ||
Wow, that's interesting. | ||
That's like a Chinese connection kick. | ||
Little fact for you guys. | ||
He's done it before. | ||
Jumping fucking sidekick. | ||
That is nuts. | ||
He jump kicked fucking over him in Pride, ran straight at his ass. | ||
The gif is so good. | ||
It's just so fucking good. | ||
Dude, it fucking wobbled Travis Brown, too. | ||
Oh, shit! | ||
Dude, he caught him on the jaw. | ||
He throws a lot of wheel kicks, man. | ||
I like him a lot. | ||
Dude, how about Verdum said, check this out. | ||
Flying fucking sidekick on your coach. | ||
This is Sparta. | ||
Front kick. | ||
Get your bullshit gym out of here. | ||
Front kick. | ||
That was real weird after the fight. | ||
Edmund was screaming at him. | ||
I'm like, what do you think is going to happen here? | ||
I think, watching it, I thought... | ||
He thought that when he was fucking... | ||
I think Edmund at some point thought that Travis actually won that fight and that he got robbed in a decision or something. | ||
What the fuck? | ||
And that's why they were booing? | ||
That's what I thought. | ||
No, I think there's a lot of pressure on Edmund. | ||
And he saw him doing this shit and was like, oh, come on over. | ||
Yeah, and he thought he was fucking shit. | ||
I think there's a lot of pressure on Edmund because, you know, it's like, fuck man, you gotta win a fight. | ||
Travis moved his whole camp there. | ||
He looked like pure caca. | ||
There's a lot right in this fight. | ||
He just lost to Kane. | ||
So if you hear him in the corners, there's desperation. | ||
He's losing his voice. | ||
And then when that shit happens, when your fighter fights like that, I think he was just so furious and he's an emotional guy. | ||
But you're talking the number one heavyweight in the world. | ||
He's going to twist your fucking face off when you talk to him like that. | ||
And he's Brazilian. | ||
In Brazil, they'll just fucking smack you for no reason. | ||
Verdum's a nice guy, too. | ||
Verdum's a fucking grand human being. | ||
One of the nice guys in the world. | ||
You're lucky that was an ovary or someone like that. | ||
Yeah, it was all very weird. | ||
It was very weird because I didn't see it until afterwards. | ||
I was climbing into the cage to do the post-fight interviews when he kicked him. | ||
So I didn't see him kick him, but all of a sudden Edmund went flying, a bunch of people in there, and Rafael Cordero was trying to kick Edmund's ass. | ||
Rafael Cordero was fucking furious, and Edmund was screaming at Rafael Cordero, and Rafael Cordero was ready to throw. | ||
See, they cut all that off. | ||
He was really considering what he should or shouldn't do at that moment. | ||
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You don't want that. | |
I'm a fucking bad. | ||
He's a bad motherfucker, and Rafael Cordero was right in front of him considering what he should or shouldn't do, and they were trying to move Edmund away from him. | ||
But he had said some nasty shit. | ||
I don't know who said what or what, but there was a lot of, like, extremities. | ||
Did you see Dana? | ||
We didn't see any of that on TV. Dana came in and was like, God, dawg, come on. | ||
We got CM Punk before this, now we got this bullshit. | ||
You got a Brazilian and an Armenian? | ||
Brazilians and Armenian have one thing in common. | ||
They don't take any shit on the street. | ||
You can you say anything to our manian on the street? | ||
You're gonna get fucked up same thing right Armenian yeah, but Italians Italian whatever Italian students They don't say shit. | ||
They're Armanian. | ||
Armanis. | ||
But the difference is one of them's ranked number one in the world and will rip your fucking dick off and the other guy's just a guy. | ||
Both races are down to fight at any time. | ||
That's what I'm saying. | ||
But one can fight better than the other. | ||
That's where you gotta know. | ||
I don't know. | ||
That's a... | ||
Not one race, but... | ||
Have you ever heard of Karin Darabedian, sir? | ||
Are you being serious? | ||
Yeah, he was at one point. | ||
What'd you say? | ||
Ed Moon was a legit kickboxer back in the day. | ||
Compared to Fabricio Verdum, he's a piece of corn and shit compared to Verdum. | ||
Verdum's so big, too. | ||
He's such a giant. | ||
He's top three, best heavyweights of all time. | ||
He just happens to be one of the greatest guys in the world. | ||
You know what I'm saying? | ||
He's a really good dude. | ||
So he should have kept his mouth shut? | ||
Which one? | ||
Edmund. | ||
Who knows what was said? | ||
See, you can't say that unless you know what was said. | ||
Well, I know what you shouldn't do is approach a fighter and try and fight him as a coach. | ||
We know that. | ||
I don't give a fuck what he said to you. | ||
Yeah, super controversial move. | ||
I think that he just was watching, and he was pissed off his guy lost, and then fucking Verdum starts doing this shit, and he was like, hey, motherfucker, don't do that shit. | ||
And then Verdum was like, who are you talking to? | ||
That's exactly what happened right there. | ||
He went back and forth. | ||
And he's like, don't fucking talk to me. | ||
Well, Verdum said the reason why he frontkicked me, he goes, because I could tell in his eyes he was going to throw a punch at me. | ||
He goes, I could have done something a lot worse. | ||
Which he's right. | ||
Did Verdum flip off the audience? | ||
No, hell no. | ||
He was crying because they were booing him. | ||
And then he was going thumbs down. | ||
They weren't booing the fact that he won. | ||
They were booing that the fight was lackluster. | ||
Correct. | ||
Yeah. | ||
And he wasn't booing that, like, oh, fuck you. | ||
The crowd was right. | ||
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The fight was tough. | |
Verdum was like, we just fought our fucking asses off. | ||
We're doing some shit. | ||
They're in the fucking cage throwing down, so no matter how it goes down, the audience should never fucking do. | ||
Hold on. | ||
You gotta take this into consideration. | ||
The audience is there. | ||
It's in Cleveland. | ||
Stipe beat Verdum for the belt. | ||
They all know that. | ||
They're there for Stipe. | ||
They know that Verdum was the guy Stipe beat for the belt. | ||
So they're against Verdum anyway, because he's like the invading team. | ||
Okay, I get it. | ||
I get it. | ||
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You're right. | ||
Okay. | ||
It wasn't a good fight, but I was amazed that Travis was able to recover when Fabricio got his back. | ||
That I was like, wow. | ||
That dude's got heart. | ||
He's got some very good defense, too. | ||
Because Fabricio had him down, had him hurt, then had him down, and then took his back. | ||
And I was shocked that he didn't finish him. | ||
I'm like, that's pretty impressive. | ||
Especially considering that Travis had a broken finger. | ||
His finger is fucked up. | ||
You see the pictures of it? | ||
I did see the pictures. | ||
What's more impressive though is for Doom fighting and throwing a spinning or kicks and the fucking flying kick with a broken foot. | ||
You know he went into the fight with a broken foot. | ||
Which foot? | ||
I'm not sure. | ||
That is impressive though. | ||
That is impressive. | ||
How impressive is that? | ||
I wonder if it was the broken one he kicked him with. | ||
That would be ridiculous. | ||
How gangster is that? | ||
I thought that it was like a mental warfare thing that I thought was kind of awesome. | ||
Yeah. | ||
I don't know the situation, but Saber Doom wasn't in the best shape and needed to be a slower paced fight. | ||
And you come out and you do that flying fucking push kick. | ||
With a fractured sight? | ||
Look at that. | ||
And then all of a sudden you're doing fucking cartwheel kicks because you don't give a fuck if he gets on top of you when you're underground. | ||
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And the next thing you know it's a slow paced fight and you get to win on, you know. | ||
I thought it was cool. | ||
That fight's tough, man, because both guys are under so much pressure. | ||
Because if Verdum loses, he goes to the back of the line. | ||
He's older. | ||
This is his fucking second time in the UFC. But Josh Brown, he's one out of his last five. | ||
Edmund, all this pressure. | ||
So there's just high tension, man. | ||
Yeah, very high tension. | ||
There was a lot going on. | ||
How old is Verdum now? | ||
He's like 49. Yeah, he's 39. You know, it's interesting because the Alistair fight, like, the way Alistair was avoiding exchanges and getting out of the way, it's so, like, you're watching a totally different fighter now. | ||
It's so interesting. | ||
Like, you remember his fight with Todd Duffy when he was the destroyer? | ||
That was in Japan. | ||
Yeah, I know, exactly. | ||
And then with Brock, same thing, pre-USADA. I mean, that, that... | ||
Alistair had such a different style. | ||
Now he's moving around a lot. | ||
He's got his hands out. | ||
He's running away from exchanges and picking his spots and trying to fight at a really reserved pace. | ||
He's trying to preserve his energy and pace himself. | ||
But what technique, and maybe you would know better, Joe, but what technique do they ever teach in any martial art where you run like that? | ||
I don't know. | ||
It's called get the fuck away from Stipe. | ||
It's weird, right? | ||
There was a lot of talk about it after Connor did it to Nate. | ||
You know, negative, positive, whatever. | ||
You're talking about fatigue and stuff like that. | ||
But that was exactly what, it looked exactly like that. | ||
But Connor did it later in the rounds. | ||
When you do it in the first round, when you're not tired, that's just, I mean, that's your straight technique, son. | ||
Well, I think if we do it on a football field, like Joe wants, you're going to have those opportunities. | ||
People are going to be like, hey, man, this is too close. | ||
I need to fucking run away from this. | ||
Yeah, Brennan, Sean, and Matt Morris running. | ||
And get their shit together. | ||
Give me a football field, I'm out. | ||
Time to run or get down. | ||
Get down! | ||
Remember when Max Holloway and Ricardo Lamas just looked at each other and pointed at the ground and said, let's do this. | ||
And they just swung for the last 10 seconds of the fight. | ||
Just swung. | ||
There's going to be guys that do that, too. | ||
And there's going to be guys that Alistair it. | ||
God bless them. | ||
Yeah, but I've never seen... | ||
Have you ever seen Alistair like that? | ||
Ever? | ||
Not Alistair? | ||
Never seen it. | ||
But you also have to think... | ||
The straight lefty dropped him. | ||
It was beautiful, though. | ||
It was amazing. | ||
And it was off of that runaway. | ||
The other thing that I was thinking is like... | ||
And even when Nate and Connor, when it happened, when you do that runaway thing, you're getting a reset. | ||
And then, for example, with Nate, Nate's been kicking a leg a lot. | ||
You're walking around the fucking ring. | ||
He runs away. | ||
You're walking to him, walking to him. | ||
He's set now, and he's waiting for you. | ||
As soon as you come in a distance, that guy gets to jump on you. | ||
You know what I mean? | ||
It's weird. | ||
It's a thing. | ||
Well, it's a thing. | ||
Well, you don't have to move forward. | ||
You don't have to advance. | ||
That would be kind of interesting if you just stood there as the guy runs away. | ||
I've never seen what Overeem's doing here. | ||
Ever. | ||
Well, you know what, man? | ||
He got tagged a couple times, and I think he also realizes that Stipe is a fucking dangerous guy, and at this stage of his life, he's not that good at taking a shot. | ||
You know, he's just not. | ||
And then what scenario would have been better for him to do in that moment than to do that? | ||
That was the fucking right thing to do. | ||
That's self-defense right there. | ||
You're in a bad position. | ||
You're like, oh fuck, I gotta get back to where I'm set. | ||
I'm gonna reset this thing. | ||
Then why don't more guys run? | ||
I don't think it's the best. | ||
I mean, but if that's what he had at that moment, you know, I mean, it's not the best. | ||
Like, there's guys that fight, like, maybe not in that division, but there's guys that fight. | ||
Okay, here's a perfect example. | ||
Kane. | ||
Kane would never do that. | ||
Or Stipe. | ||
You're never going to see that ever. | ||
It's not even in their brain to run. | ||
They don't have that mechanism. | ||
Kane's going to turn, plant himself, fire back, try to take you down, try to crack on you, whatever it is. | ||
And probably Verdum is not going to run like that either. | ||
Verdum's going to look for the clinch, or he's going to try to take you down as you move in like that. | ||
Name another heavyweight that'd run like that. | ||
Nobody. | ||
Nobody currently. | ||
No. | ||
Nobody currently. | ||
And there won't be a trend of it, I would probably guarantee that. | ||
No, I think that was a high-pressure situation, and he thought that was his best move at the time. | ||
But if you looked at what he did with Junior Dos Santos, he did a less extreme version of that. | ||
He did a lot of moving away, but he landed hard shots and then ultimately knocked Junior out, so everybody forgave him for it. | ||
Correct. | ||
But it's that kind of movement, moving away from the conflict and picking a spot. | ||
Stipe's best chance to win, too, is if you look at Stipe's wins, when he gets a guy against the cage, he goes to work. | ||
So maybe he was like, you know what, I'm just gonna reset, go to the center, keep going to the center, because we know how good Stipe is with his game plan and back me up to the cage. | ||
I don't know anything about his grappling. | ||
Tell me Stipe. | ||
I heard he's a really good wrestler recently. | ||
College wrestler? | ||
College? | ||
I heard he was a wrestler. | ||
Let's pull it up. | ||
College wrestler at Cleveland State. | ||
Also a real good athlete in other sports. | ||
What about jiu-jitsu? | ||
Well, baseball. | ||
He's a baseball player. | ||
Wanted to play professional baseball. | ||
His jiu-jitsu is very good. | ||
Not offensively. | ||
Defensively. | ||
He's not high-level trained, but his defense is amazing. | ||
He's like Rashad Evans when it comes to defense. | ||
No submission wins? | ||
No, no. | ||
Not a big smash. | ||
And what about his striking specifically? | ||
Boxing Golden Gloves champ from Cleveland. | ||
Very good technique. | ||
You see when he had Alistair against the ropes. | ||
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College wrestler, Division I college baseball player too. | |
You see when he had Alistair against the ropes or against the cage and just hit crisp combinations. | ||
This fight is a motherfucker, kids. | ||
Has a head like a pit bull. | ||
He can take a shot. | ||
This fight's going to be fun. | ||
I'm excited for this fight. | ||
Yeah, it should be a good one. | ||
Yeah, the heavyweight division's in an unusual position right now, you know? | ||
It's really interesting to see what happens. | ||
Really interesting to see how well Kane's recovered from his surgery. | ||
Obviously, he looked like a monster again against Travis. | ||
That looked like the Kane of old, you know? | ||
Kane steeped the fight. | ||
It's the only fight. | ||
Yeah. | ||
What do you guys think about Tony Ferguson versus Dos Anjos? | ||
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Woo! | |
That's a motherfucking fight. | ||
And it's in Mexico City, kids. | ||
Dog, dog. | ||
We're going to be in Big Bear for four weeks. | ||
Yeah, he Instagrammed a picture from Big Bear. | ||
Is he at Tito's old joint? | ||
No, he's going to rent his own house. | ||
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Gio, Chai, Compella, Boogie. | |
We're all going to go up there and rotate. | ||
That's a great fight, man. | ||
When Tito was in his prime, he bought Oscar De La Hoya's training camp up there. | ||
It's dope as fuck, man. | ||
I heard it's amazing. | ||
He had the cage set up there and he would do all his training. | ||
I think Tito said he still owns it. | ||
Does he? | ||
He was on our show and I think he said he still owns it. | ||
Shane Mosley has one too. | ||
He rented it out to Canelo. | ||
Now Canelo has a spot in San Diego. | ||
A lot of guys are talking about how Being at altitude or being a Big Bear doesn't work as far as altitude-wise, but guys will still do it to get away from the world and get focused on it. | ||
What do you mean by it doesn't work? | ||
There's a lot of arguments about if it's better to sleep low or to train low and then sleep high. | ||
And then people go up there to Big Bear, which if you're not there, I guess the argument is if you're not there for a long enough period of time, that you're actually getting less out of your workouts because it's harder because you can't breathe. | ||
And you get less reps. | ||
Which is the whole concept behind it. | ||
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Yeah. | |
I do like the, when you were asking what I do for cardio, like I'll do, and I've been doing it for fucking years and years now. | ||
Probably since I really took off. | ||
My career was high altitude training with the, I have like a machine that pumps nitrogen. | ||
So you're actually getting less, it simulates whatever altitude that you want. | ||
What do you do, like sprints on a treadmill? | ||
As soon as I sign the papers, if I have six weeks, eight weeks, however long it is for the fight, I just start sleeping and using it when I sleep. | ||
And then as my cardio gets good and I'm starting to feel confident in my cardio and I start working it and testing it, then I'll start doing Tabata sprints with the mask at 10,000 feet on the treadmill. | ||
Kirsten has me do it on a rowing machine. | ||
But then I don't even do pad work, I do bag work, I do all kinds of shit with that fucking thing. | ||
You're talking about a device, or you're talking about that training mask thing? | ||
No, fuck that mask, not that mask. | ||
I was going to say, give me shit on my face. | ||
Hypoxico is the brand, and it's this big machine, and it pumps nitrogen, and so you're taking the same breaths, but volume-wise of those same breaths, where I'm breathing oxygen now, it would be 80% oxygen and 20% nitrogen, which lowers the amount of oxygen that you breathe, and what that does is it It makes your body go, oh fuck, I'm not getting enough air out of each breath. | ||
I need to be more whatever. | ||
So your body will release red blood cells from your bone marrow. | ||
And that's how you increase your red blood cell count. | ||
That's interesting. | ||
It's like blood doping. | ||
But it's on a way lower scale. | ||
It's a form of it, just legally. | ||
My coach notices it right away when I started using it. | ||
Like the... | ||
Your lactic acid build up and your cardio will increase every time you do it. | ||
And you do how many of those a week? | ||
When you're in peak training? | ||
When I'm like peaking, it depends on... | ||
Like I said, every camp's different, but I'll try at least twice, three times a week. | ||
But you're sleeping with it too? | ||
And then I'm sleeping in it at night, yeah. | ||
A tent? | ||
Is it one of those tents? | ||
Well, I had the big tent and... | ||
My chick didn't like it and the tent was like too big. | ||
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Yeah, no shit. | |
The tent was like too big because there was like a room in a room. | ||
It gets hot and then it smells like you're sleeping in a fucking tent. | ||
It smells like soup. | ||
I had one myself. | ||
But mine was like, I was like, oh. | ||
It smells like soup. | ||
Don't fart in that motherfucker either. | ||
Well, it's a big ass tent. | ||
It'll fuck your whole night up. | ||
It's a big ass tent. | ||
It has like my fucking dressers and like it's a fucking room in a room. | ||
So then I ended up getting a... | ||
A pod? | ||
No, I fucking made it. | ||
It's actually really... | ||
I wonder if I have a picture. | ||
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You made it yourself? | |
It's really impressive. | ||
The air that we breathe. | ||
I got these plastic bins at Home Depot, the biggest plastic bin I could find. | ||
I cut one wall off of it. | ||
I'm not even kidding. | ||
You made your own hyperbolic chamber? | ||
I plugged the thing in the back, and then I got a sheet, like a tarp, and I hang it so it's inside of the... | ||
Inside, like, when I lay in, there's like a fucking plastic bin over my head. | ||
Damn, you MacGyvered a fucking... | ||
And then there's a plastic tarp which lays over the sheets or whatever, and then it's pumping the oxygen. | ||
And that's how you sleep? | ||
I don't know if that works, man. | ||
Oh, it definitely works, too. | ||
That's so gangster. | ||
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You MacGyvered a hyperbolic chamber. | |
God bless you, man. | ||
You can't be paranoid of close paces when you're in a spot like that. | ||
Your chicks sleep with you too in there? | ||
That's the only way that she would do it because she didn't want the big ass tan anymore. | ||
Sometimes she'll get in there and be like, she doesn't like it. | ||
Then it's really way too close. | ||
That's hilarious. | ||
Shit you do. | ||
But it does really increase your cardio. | ||
Have you been in one of those, Joe? | ||
No, I never slept in one of those. | ||
I used to own one. | ||
Yeah, the soup thing's hilarious. | ||
What'd you own? | ||
Oh, look! | ||
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They have one. | |
Look at that! | ||
Look at this! | ||
Hyperbolic or hyperbolic? | ||
Hyperbaric. | ||
So it was less oxygen like what I was talking about. | ||
Yes. | ||
Yeah, and it was one of those like pods and I'd sleep down there. | ||
Well, hyperbaric. | ||
Yeah, so I watched all these things. | ||
You see that one on the top left that's like just over his head? | ||
Yeah, it looks like they keep bugs out. | ||
Hey, here we go. | ||
That's what I used to... | ||
This could be a quick one, gentlemen. | ||
Brunson's trying to take Uriah Hall down. | ||
Uriah Hall marched at him. | ||
Fucking Marty, Joe, making your own shit. | ||
That's insane. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Slaying those. | ||
Aren't those hyperbaric chambers? | ||
Or hypobaric or hyperbaric? | ||
They're two different things, right? | ||
Yeah, one of them pumps tons of oxygen into you, which is supposed to be really good for knockout recovery and stuff like that. | ||
And then what I have is it decreases your oxygen. | ||
You're basically suffocating yourself all night long. | ||
Which one were you saying, Joe? | ||
And then your body's like, oh, fuck, you need to be more red blood cells because you're dying. | ||
Which one of you Shannon pumps the pure oxygen? | ||
That's the hyper... | ||
That's what I had. | ||
Is it baric? | ||
Isn't it baric? | ||
That's what I had. | ||
I thought it was hyperbaric. | ||
I think it's hyperbaric. | ||
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Hyperbaric, yeah. | |
Hyperbaric, that's what I had. | ||
But it was soft, so I guess it wasn't working as well. | ||
So then I went to a guy in L.A. that had a hard one. | ||
It was like this thick glass. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Well, I know Uriah Faber used that after the Aldo fight to repair his leg. | ||
After he got leg kicked. | ||
Yeah. | ||
It was a brutal fight to watch. | ||
His leg swole up. | ||
Derek Brunson with a good knee to the body. | ||
I don't see this fight last long. | ||
Well, Brunson was able to stop the bum rush, which is big. | ||
Oh, you got a lot of time, though. | ||
Mm-hmm. | ||
Let's see that spinning kick. | ||
Powerful Jamaican shorts on your eye. | ||
It's not just spinning kick, man. | ||
It's his straight shots. | ||
He's so efficient with his movements when he's striking. | ||
He's tough to take down, man. | ||
He was with us at rain. | ||
He's a fucking freak athlete. | ||
I think his distance is really hard to read, too. | ||
His movement patterns and the distance that your highest strikes from is... | ||
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Oh! | |
Brunson with a left! | ||
Brunson begs the dam for a shilling. | ||
Oh, that is a wrap! | ||
Oh my goodness. | ||
Oh, dance it, dance it. | ||
I'm not mad at that dance. | ||
Wow. | ||
I just can't get on track. | ||
What do you think about that stoppage? | ||
I think that was a little... | ||
You know me, man. | ||
Eddie needs to see that. | ||
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You know me. | |
What do you think I think? | ||
You think it was premature. | ||
You think it was way premature. | ||
Let's see the replay. | ||
It's Herb Dean again. | ||
I mean, Herb Dean is a bad motherfucker, dude. | ||
If Herb thought it was premature, he might have been. | ||
Or if Herb thought it was time, he might have been able to see something. | ||
You know why? | ||
You know what kind of triggers a little bit is Uriah went for a single leg on Herb Dean. | ||
That's usually a bad sign. | ||
He did? | ||
After the fact? | ||
He sure did. | ||
Is after he stopped it, right? | ||
Yeah. | ||
He went for a single leg on Herb. | ||
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Hmm. | |
We're supposed to put up a clock to sync this up. | ||
Do you have a clock that syncs this up, Jamie? | ||
I can put it up all the time, yeah. | ||
Okay. | ||
So I was almost thinking about rewinding it, but that'll fuck up our clock, right? | ||
Brunson's saying, title shot. | ||
You gotta relax. | ||
They'll show it. | ||
Is he saying title shot? | ||
Yeah. | ||
You gotta relax. | ||
Let's check this out here. | ||
You gotta relax. | ||
I hear you. | ||
I've been there myself. | ||
Fakes it. | ||
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Kadoosh! | |
Beautiful left hook. | ||
Beautiful. | ||
He's pounding him. | ||
Boom, boom, boom. | ||
He's not really doing much there. | ||
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Did he get hit? | |
He's lifting his arms up. | ||
Now watch this. | ||
Now watch this. | ||
This is how you know he's fucked up. | ||
Watch him shoot this beautiful single leg on Herb. | ||
Oh, what a left hook. | ||
Oh my goodness. | ||
Right on the chin. | ||
Miss. | ||
Oh, his head's not moving. | ||
Look at this. | ||
I ain't hitting him. | ||
No, no, no. | ||
You gotta give a guy a chance to recover. | ||
Yeah, he wasn't even hitting him. | ||
That was a little premature. | ||
He was fucked up, though. | ||
I mean, he definitely got tagged. | ||
He was fucked up from getting dropped. | ||
I just don't agree with that. | ||
He was trying to move. | ||
You know what? | ||
Herb's a little off tonight. | ||
Can we all agree on that? | ||
We're all friends. | ||
We all love him. | ||
I don't know. | ||
He's definitely... | ||
Every now and then, you know... | ||
I think this... | ||
You gotta... | ||
This was off. | ||
Cut him some slack. | ||
This was off. | ||
He does such a great job. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Herb's having an off night. | ||
Everyone has an off night in the office sometimes. | ||
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Sigh. | |
I don't know, man. | ||
I mean, it's interesting because I would have liked to see Brunson actually finish it, finish it. | ||
I mean, I think maybe if you gave him more time, he would have been able to finish it conclusively, and we wouldn't be sitting here doing this. | ||
Correct. | ||
Because you don't want to take anything away from that left hook. | ||
That was beautiful. | ||
You know what? | ||
That was a little premature. | ||
I agree with Eddie this time. | ||
I think it was premature as well. | ||
That left hook was money. | ||
The other ones didn't get in there. | ||
Because you know what? | ||
When he shot that single leg to get up on Herb, right away he was like, what the fuck, man? | ||
He grabbed it and was like, oh shit, come on, man. | ||
He's like, why is your leg here? | ||
Why do you have pants on? | ||
What's going on here? | ||
I mean, he was turned up and probably closing his eyes, you know? | ||
Turtled up, trying to avoid the punches that were coming at his face. | ||
Right. | ||
Who knows? | ||
It just seemed like they didn't land. | ||
It's like he got hit with that one big shot, he goes down, but then the two afterwards, they were kind of deflected. | ||
His head wasn't... | ||
He wasn't doing what a guy who was conscious would do with his head or neck, I feel like. | ||
Well, he was certainly conscious. | ||
It's a matter of how compromised he was. | ||
Yeah, well... | ||
Because if you look at it, the head's not moving at all. | ||
You know what I'm saying? | ||
Like, his head's not reacting to anything. | ||
His arms are up stiff, and it's not moving. | ||
But it was enough to stop the two punches that he was trying to throw at him from hitting him. | ||
Well, is that him, or is that bad shots on Brunson? | ||
If you're on the fence about that, I think you'd let it go. | ||
I agree with you on this one. | ||
I agree with you on this one. | ||
Here's where you give Herb Dean the benefit of the doubt, though. | ||
He said Herb was looking in his eyes while all the shit was going down. | ||
And he might have not been there. | ||
I agree. | ||
He might have been off in the dark lands. | ||
Or Herb's angle, different from the camera, it actually looks like he's getting hit. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Whereas our angle is just as better. | ||
Hmm. | ||
Maybe. | ||
You know? | ||
Yeah. | ||
I would say that Herb has the best view ever, though, right? | ||
Ever. | ||
He's on top of him. | ||
Ever. | ||
It's interesting. | ||
It's hard to really predict. | ||
Where are they tonight? | ||
Hildago. | ||
Where the hell is that? | ||
South Texas, near the border of Mexico. | ||
For our show, I put hashtag, where the fuck is Hildago? | ||
And then some guy's like, I'm from there, asshole. | ||
If you're from Hildago, relax. | ||
What's the closest major city to Hildago? | ||
Mexico. | ||
Yeah, I actually don't know. | ||
I have no idea. | ||
Don't quote me on that. | ||
Yeah, if you want to fly in, you've got to fly to Mexico, and they take you over on some sort of a shuttle. | ||
Am I right? | ||
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Yeah. | |
Right on the border. | ||
Oh, it is right on the border. | ||
Public school's paying off, son. | ||
Wow, that's really right on the border. | ||
How many miles is it from the border of Mexico? | ||
Let's just do it in Mexico, huh, UFC? Holy shit. | ||
I mean, it's right there. | ||
Was I right about Juarez? | ||
They should have just brought in all Mexican fighters and treated it like a Mexico City card. | ||
And then have cartel as the security. | ||
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Be sick. | |
Yeah! | ||
Right? | ||
Be fucking sick. | ||
And then they all come out to mariachi bands and narco songs. | ||
Yeah. | ||
They're all at the Canelo fight, but yeah, that'd be a brilliant idea. | ||
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That's right. | |
That's why they do it tonight. | ||
It's in Dallas Stadium, son. | ||
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Is it? | |
How about Liam Smith? | ||
He's never fought outside the UK. And they're like, oh, cool. | ||
Here's Canelo in Dallas Stadium sold out. | ||
Get you some. | ||
Wow. | ||
What is that, 50,000 people? | ||
60-something, isn't it? | ||
60,000? | ||
Canelson can sell some fucking tickets. | ||
What's interesting is Gennady Golovkin can't. | ||
I know. | ||
It's weird. | ||
He does pay-per-views. | ||
They don't do well. | ||
They really don't. | ||
That's why he fought on HBO last week. | ||
He's not really a pay-per-view fighter, but man, in my eyes, there's no more exciting fighter maybe ever. | ||
He's blood and guts. | ||
He's got nasty face. | ||
He's up there. | ||
He's got nasty boxing, beautiful movement. | ||
Then he gets on the mic and goes, Big drama show! | ||
I try big drama show! | ||
Alright, man. | ||
We need something else. | ||
You gotta take English lessons. | ||
Crank. | ||
Here it goes. | ||
So he's down. | ||
Boom. | ||
See the limp left hand? | ||
You see the limp left hand, though? | ||
Not doing much? | ||
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I don't know, man. | |
It's hard to see from there. | ||
Let's see it from here. | ||
We can all agree on this. | ||
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Boom! | |
That's a funny shot, yeah. | ||
That was a beautiful left hook. | ||
No, those don't land, man. | ||
Here's my thing is that he's probably still fucked up from that shot while he's down there, but you didn't stop him from the shot, and then those three things that he threw all missed. | ||
So what changed, you know? | ||
Yeah, it's certainly controversial. | ||
But he was definitely fucked up on the ground there, but he wasn't getting more fucked up when he stopped it. | ||
It's too bad it's controversial because Brunson landed that perfect left hook. | ||
He would never want to take anything away from that moment, you know? | ||
That's nothing on Brunson, right? | ||
But it is. | ||
If everybody says it's a bullshit stoppage, it makes you feel bad. | ||
People are going to hate on him. | ||
It should be clean. | ||
Hey, Herb, you're going to have to give your eye half your paycheck now. | ||
I hate to be shitty about it. | ||
Could they fucking please put a 145-pound weight class in instead of having Cyborg starve herself every time they let her fight? | ||
It doesn't make any sense. | ||
Well, because that 145, she's gonna kill a bitch. | ||
At least a 140, she's dehydrated. | ||
What poor soul is going in there to fight this girl? | ||
Could there be a scarier fighter than Cyborg? | ||
The woman, Lena Landsberg is her name, and she's a world Muay Thai champion. | ||
I don't give a fuck. | ||
She's actually very badass. | ||
Fantastic. | ||
Fly down Brazil and fight Cyborg. | ||
Yeah, in Brazil. | ||
She's going to punch you in the face so hard. | ||
Now, you want to talk about Mike Tyson effect? | ||
There you go. | ||
There you go. | ||
Why don't you relax? | ||
Who's Lena Landsberg? | ||
I don't know. | ||
She's a world Muay Thai kickboxing champion. | ||
Oh, shit. | ||
Very good striker. | ||
She's got nasty elbows. | ||
Particularly good in the clench. | ||
Knees to the body. | ||
I bet she's fantastic. | ||
Elbows over the top. | ||
Yeah, I bet she's great. | ||
Anyone want to bet on that? | ||
Yeah, bitch. | ||
You don't even know what she fights like. | ||
Did you see what happened when she fought Jorina Barge? | ||
I don't care who's Cyborg. | ||
Did you see when she fought Jorina Barge? | ||
I sure didn't. | ||
I've seen Cyborg fight. | ||
Jermaine Durandamay is the same weight class. | ||
135. Dude, she's bad. | ||
Yeah, Cyborg's a monster. | ||
She's terrifying. | ||
She beats the shit out of chicks. | ||
What superstar are they going to feed her? | ||
She lost to Jorina Barge in a fight where Barge dominated her. | ||
This is Lena Landsberg. | ||
She's good, dude. | ||
She's a good kickboxer. | ||
She's got good striking, good movement. | ||
She's good, man. | ||
That's her shit, right? | ||
That front kick jab? | ||
Well, she throws a round kick and then she comes from behind it when you're recovering with her right hand. | ||
But she's got good elbows and a clinch, too. | ||
The question is, is she going to be strong enough to keep Cyborg off of her? | ||
That's the real question. | ||
Is she going to keep her head enough to use her movement and her technique? | ||
She's fucking good, dude. | ||
She's a good striker. | ||
Doesn't go past two rounds. | ||
I don't think so. | ||
Too bad Brian Callen's not here to bet you in a way where... | ||
Here he owes me 12 fucking grand. | ||
I'm done betting that. | ||
12 grand? | ||
Sorry. | ||
For real? | ||
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You got me fired up, Joe. | |
I'm done betting Callen till he pays me. | ||
Callen bet him, and then he lost the second. | ||
He's like, let's go double or nothing. | ||
They bet six grand. | ||
He lost. | ||
He's like, double or nothing. | ||
So he loses again, and now he's ghost. | ||
I haven't heard from him. | ||
Yeah, he's hiding in New York. | ||
Until New York had that bomb. | ||
He goes, brother, I'm safe. | ||
Let's just forget about the money, huh? | ||
Yeah, exactly. | ||
He set the bomb so he doesn't have to pay you. | ||
I had your money. | ||
We got blown up. | ||
It's fucking crazy. | ||
He was in a suitcase. | ||
I need more time. | ||
This is going to sound amazing. | ||
Yeah. | ||
You can't bet those large sums unless you're going to pay up. | ||
That's a lot of money. | ||
Yeah, the Jesus is running. | ||
The Colonel is a pimp? | ||
Did you guys see that? | ||
Yeah. | ||
George, what the fuck's his name, right? | ||
George Hamilton? | ||
They have a different Colonel Sanders every week now. | ||
I like the pimp one. | ||
Rob Riggle's one now, too. | ||
They should keep that one forever. | ||
I'd like to see Arsenio. | ||
So what was your two bets? | ||
He bet on Overeem? | ||
Conor Diaz. | ||
So he bet on Diaz in the first fight, and then he bet on Overeem in the Stipe fight? | ||
But he's the one that won, and I go, dude, I don't want, just pay me my money. | ||
He goes, no, no, no, Overeem, Stipe. | ||
And he goes, you get to pick first. | ||
I'm like, I'll take Stipe, but you gotta pay him. | ||
He goes, fine, I'll take Overeem. | ||
So when he lost, you guys have done podcasts since then. | ||
What kind of conversations have you had about the money that he lost? | ||
He's like, do I have to check in my car, blah, blah, blah. | ||
And then we do the show, and then after he just dips out. | ||
So you ask him, point blank, are you going to pay me? | ||
Yeah, and he's like, I swear I'm going to pay. | ||
He said, I swear I'm going to pay. | ||
The thing is, it's tough when he's up front. | ||
What are you going to do? | ||
You're going to not pay him for the t-shirts. | ||
Yeah, that's what I could do. | ||
I could just not pay him for merchandise. | ||
Or are you just going to accept the fact that everything with him is sort of theater? | ||
That's what I'm going to accept. | ||
I would never take money from him. | ||
Yeah, that's interesting. | ||
I mean, if you gave me a check, it's a lot of money, man. | ||
If you lost $12,000 and came to him with $12,000 in a bag and just handed it to him, pushed it over to him, he said, are you sure? | ||
And you're like, yeah, you won. | ||
Do you think he'd give it back to you? | ||
I do. | ||
Really? | ||
I do. | ||
You would know Brian better than me, but I feel like you would. | ||
I just keep going double or nothing till he wins, and then there you go. | ||
That's what he was hoping. | ||
Yeah, you just keep going. | ||
But I won't bet on that, because you can't make a bid out of it. | ||
You see how big you can go before he's eventually going to win. | ||
You'd be surprised. | ||
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Can he owe you $250,000? | |
He's not going to pay you, but just see how high you can go. | ||
Well, then no one cares. | ||
Well, no one cares. | ||
If they know that he's never going to pay, then why care? | ||
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Why bad? | |
You see how high you can go. | ||
I have to hold him accountable. | ||
If Callan is on a plane that gets hit by an asteroid and he dies, you go after his family. | ||
Oh yeah, I'm going to tell his wife, God, this sucks. | ||
I'm going to need that 12K. I've got to... | ||
Document it on air. | ||
We've talked about it. | ||
He owes me $85,000. | ||
You know what? | ||
Let me just take this test. | ||
And listen, 12 becomes 24 real quick. | ||
Real quick. | ||
24 becomes 48 real quick. | ||
You know how it becomes 24? | ||
Because he wanted to bet on Yoel versus Weidman, because I want Weidman. | ||
No, he wants to go more! | ||
He wants to go. | ||
Keep going. | ||
Keep going. | ||
No, he has to figure it out. | ||
Just keep going. | ||
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Come on, man. | |
That's entertainment right there. | ||
Eddie Bravo is 100% right. | ||
But pretend like you really want the money so that your audience... | ||
Yes. | ||
You can't pretend. | ||
I really want my fucking money. | ||
This is show business, Brendan. | ||
Yeah, I don't bet like that with friends. | ||
I'll bet a friend a hundred bucks. | ||
I don't mind paying a friend a hundred bucks. | ||
But, like, I don't want anybody giving me a thousand dollars. | ||
Me neither. | ||
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I feel shitty about it. | |
It feels like that would hurt. | ||
I agree. | ||
I don't want to, like, take away from his kid's horse riding lessons or some shit. | ||
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Yeah. | |
That just seems like... | ||
Like, that's a weird thing with, like, rich dudes. | ||
Like, if you're like a Lorenzo Fertitta or some sort of super rich dude type kid, like, if you're gonna have a bet, that shit's gotta be preposterous. | ||
Just to get your heart rate up. | ||
Yeah, just for you to care? | ||
Yeah, Mark Cuban and Lorenzo Fertitta, they get drunk together one night, and they decide, let's get down. | ||
You wanna have a bet, motherfucker? | ||
And they get crazy, and they look at, like, a $50 million bet. | ||
No, they're betting like private jets. | ||
You know what I'm saying? | ||
Different level. | ||
I don't know, man. | ||
You thought they were rich before. | ||
Holy shit. | ||
How's Lorenzo partying these days? | ||
Playing the same, nothing changes. | ||
I just need a gold spaceship, and he's just gonna have a window where only his dick hangs out. | ||
He just goes everywhere in a helicopter. | ||
If you had a trillion dollars, wouldn't you just go everywhere in a helicopter? | ||
You would just like... | ||
I don't know, man. | ||
Why fuck with traffic? | ||
Can you imagine the stereo system he has in his helicopter? | ||
Holy shit. | ||
Nothing changes for those guys. | ||
Yeah, I think they were already so super rich. | ||
They're just, you know, more super rich. | ||
And if I had to guess, he's probably going to get into the football game. | ||
Because he's a big fan of football. | ||
Oh, kids coming to Vegas. | ||
Kids play football. | ||
Yeah, they're talking about that. | ||
And there was a Raider front office looking at the facilities for practices already. | ||
A Las Vegas NFL team? | ||
Oakland Raiders will go there. | ||
Interesting. | ||
I guarantee you. | ||
Bet on that. | ||
The Fertittas will have some part in that. | ||
They're great guys. | ||
They're brilliant. | ||
You know, I've also heard, and I don't... | ||
It could be true, I don't know. | ||
This is from guys dealing with him. | ||
Since the sale, everyone says Dane is so much better to deal with on negotiations. | ||
I guess since sale, he's just way cooler to deal with now. | ||
For whatever reason, maybe, you know, who knows. | ||
But they say he's just way... | ||
You know, not that he wasn't... | ||
Impossible to deal with. | ||
I just just his demeanor is completely different in a positive way. | ||
Interesting. | ||
Which is cool to hear. | ||
Yeah, I mean he was already, Dana's been super rich for a long time, but there's super rich and then there's like how many hundreds of millions of dollars did he make from that shit? | ||
Four hundred. | ||
Something like that. | ||
He hasn't got all of it yet. | ||
It's like over years, but still. | ||
Yeah, whatever. | ||
Yeah. | ||
There's like a level. | ||
From what I've heard from people that are going through negotiations right now, they're like, dude, it's crazy. | ||
He's way better to deal with. | ||
Interesting. | ||
That's awesome. | ||
Yeah. | ||
I'm very curious to see what these guys... | ||
You know, Ari Emanuel is a super savvy entertainment dude. | ||
You know, his knowledge about the business is pretty much unparalleled. | ||
Or at the very least, at the top of the heap. | ||
It's him and then CA. He's got some crazy connections in the world. | ||
It's going to be interesting to see what they can pull off. | ||
Because, you know, I don't know how long the deal with Fox goes on, but... | ||
I think it's another two years. | ||
I was having a conversation with Dana way back before they were doing this Fox deal. | ||
They were talking about buying a network at one point in time. | ||
And it was like right before the economy collapsed. | ||
If they wound up buying that network, who knows where the fucking sport would be. | ||
You know what I think is going to happen? | ||
I think once the Fox deal is up, and I may not have heard this from some smart, smart people involved in it. | ||
You know how the NFL and NBA, it's just not on Fox, on CBS, NBC. They think ESPN, Fox, they're not going to just be on one network with just Fox. | ||
Have the lightweights and the welterweights on NBC. You're going to see ESPN promoting UFC fights big time. | ||
Some big fights. | ||
You're going to see Fox doing it. | ||
Similar how the NBA and NFL is. | ||
That makes sense. | ||
They just did an NFL game this week, broadcasted on Twitter live on Thursday night. | ||
Like, it was on the actual app, like, on the website or on your phone. | ||
It was on Twitter. | ||
Whoa. | ||
So you could watch the game on Twitter. | ||
Yeah, it said it was trending, and then next to a little live button. | ||
Whoa, that's intense. | ||
Yeah, that's cool. | ||
That's intense. | ||
Do you guys have those things, those little stands that you put in your bed and you clip your phone where you could just watch your phone like shit go? | ||
No, I hate my phone. | ||
Because generally, for the longest time, I'd have to hold it, kind of set it. | ||
You know, if I wanted to watch anything on my phone. | ||
Now, my wife got me to stand. | ||
Yeah, where it's an awesome clip where now I look forward to getting in bed and just watching Netflix. | ||
Why don't you get an iPad? | ||
Yeah, I want you to spot on the TV, though, huh? | ||
I do that, too. | ||
I do that, too, but it's nice to get in bed. | ||
Because, you know, if you take an iPhone here and you hold it to your face like this, that's like sitting in the last row in a movie theater. | ||
No, it's not. | ||
It's exactly the same thing. | ||
It's going to fuck your eyes up. | ||
Yes, it is. | ||
No, it's not. | ||
Yes, it is. | ||
No, your eyes don't move very much. | ||
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No, no, no. | |
When you're looking at the last row of a movie theater, you're looking at this big thing. | ||
It's still a big thing. | ||
You're moving your head around. | ||
A lot of shit's going on. | ||
This thing is, you've got to like, oh, there's a little thing right in front of me. | ||
I've got to pretend it's big. | ||
Think about it. | ||
Think about it. | ||
I am thinking about it. | ||
When you're lying in bed, turn off all the lights and then put your phone like this close. | ||
It's the exact same proportions that if you're sitting in the last row in a movie theater. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Ooh, look at this. | ||
These guys are getting in each other's face right before the fight. | ||
Well, you know they have those VR goggle headsets. | ||
It's actually a phone. | ||
You slide a Samsung phone into this VR goggle and it becomes like a virtual reality headset. | ||
Aren't Samsung phones blowing up? | ||
They're blowing up, yes. | ||
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Is that real? | |
Like crazy, dude. | ||
The Note 7. How will... | ||
That's going to destroy Samsung. | ||
It's gonna destroy them. | ||
Who the fuck would get a phone with one of those? | ||
They blow up? | ||
Oh, are people dying? | ||
Dude, people's houses... | ||
Oh, they actually blow up. | ||
I like what you're saying. | ||
They're blowing up. | ||
This dude in Florida videotaped his house. | ||
His house caught on fire from a fucking Samsung phone. | ||
Have people died from Samsung phones? | ||
Blowing up, literally. | ||
Yeah, look at that. | ||
That's not good. | ||
Oh no, they're done. | ||
Can you imagine the stock right now with Samsung? | ||
Oh, it dropped radically. | ||
Oh shit, no more microwaves, nothing. | ||
There's one where a guy was in his driveway, he had his car, his phone charging, just sitting on his console, burst into flame, came out, his dog was barking, his fucking car is on fire, ablaze in his driveway, from his goddamn phone. | ||
They videotaped the whole thing, so he's like, what the fuck is this? | ||
Do your kids ever go through your phone and look at videos and shit? | ||
You let them watch cartoons on your phone every now and then, right? | ||
Imagine. | ||
Yeah, imagine if it blew up on them. | ||
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Imagine that shit constantly. | |
Oh, man. | ||
Well, a six-year-old boy did apparently get burned. | ||
From a phone blown up in his hand. | ||
If they're recalling these phones, imagine how many people got fucked up from them. | ||
Dude, they recalled a million phones. | ||
Holy shit. | ||
A million phones. | ||
I wonder how many accidents. | ||
Can you find out how many accidents, Jamie? | ||
Is that possible? | ||
I just said there was like 25, 26, 26 reports of burns and 55 reports of property damage, including fires. | ||
That's a lot for a fucking phone. | ||
I bet it's zero for iPhone. | ||
I bet zero iPhones are blowing up. | ||
Yeah, well, this is the first time this has ever happened with any major manufacturer. | ||
I've never heard of anything like this before. | ||
Just like that thing you were talking about? | ||
Those cars back in the day, like the Pintos and shit, were killing people, right? | ||
But that was from accidents. | ||
They'd get rear-ended and the gas tank was in a bad position. | ||
How about that thing you were talking about, Elon Musk came up with a battery that stores solar energy? | ||
How fucking dangerous would that be? | ||
Like some kind of cell that's holding all this energy? | ||
Holy shit, you'd want to put that in the back shed, like on the other side of the backyard. | ||
It's a good point if it blows up like these Samsung phones, right? | ||
Yeah, real good point. | ||
Because think about how small the phone is, and think about how big the battery bank must be to power your fucking J-Lo mansion. | ||
Oh, that's what the energy companies can do. | ||
That's what I come back to. | ||
They can just start false flagging houses blowing up. | ||
Solar energy's blowing up houses. | ||
That's an easy one. | ||
And then everyone's like, oh, we're going to stay on the grid. | ||
Fuck that sun shit. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Here we go. | ||
What do you think about this fight? | ||
What do you think about this fight? | ||
Tremendous amount of shit talking between these two. | ||
Wayans were a really good fight. | ||
It's a really good fight, man. | ||
They're just a really good fight. | ||
Johnson, it's very interesting because he's, at times, looks real good striking. | ||
But the question is, does he have enough to hang with Poirier? | ||
And does he choose to strike with him or does he try to take him down? | ||
Like, what is he going to do here? | ||
It's going to be really interesting. | ||
Poirier pretty much has the same strategy always. | ||
Presses forward and tries to strike. | ||
Looks great at this weight class, though. | ||
Jamie just pulled up some shit where they're already on Tesla for blowing up, right? | ||
Put that back up, Jamie. | ||
Look at this. | ||
Tesla spontaneously catches fire, burns down during test drive in France. | ||
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You know what? | |
They should put that on. | ||
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All they got to do is put that on CNN, like, all day for a week. | |
Fuck. | ||
That's it. | ||
And then that's it. | ||
It's so easy to get rid of good technology. | ||
Well, they had a problem with Teslas early on where if underground debris or ground debris, like if they rolled over some rocks or something like that and it damaged the undercarriage, then it could have some issues. | ||
So they fixed that issue somehow or another. | ||
They probably like polyurea coated the bottom of the cars or something. | ||
It says they put a titanium shield on the bottom to stop that. | ||
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There you go. | |
That helps. | ||
Oh, man. | ||
It's so easy to get rid of Tesla. | ||
This is an interesting fight here, man. | ||
Because Michael Johnson at one point in time was looking real good. | ||
He was climbing that ladder. | ||
Six fight win streak. | ||
But the Nate Diaz fight set him back quite a bit. | ||
He got dismantled in that fight. | ||
That was the best Nate's ever looked. | ||
Good luck being that Nate. | ||
Yeah, Nate looked real good, man. | ||
And I was talking to Ludwig about it. | ||
He was talking about how the way Nate throws is 1-2. | ||
He goes, like, most people go 1-2. | ||
Like, the left hand and then the right hand comes behind it. | ||
With Nate, they're coming at you at the same time. | ||
It's like, uh-huh. | ||
They're coming together. | ||
Yeah, he's like, it's a totally different rhythm. | ||
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Oh! | |
It's over. | ||
That's a wrap, son. | ||
Hold up. | ||
Yeah, for sure jump the fuck in there on that one. | ||
Oh my goodness. | ||
Oh my goodness. | ||
Henry Hooft and Michael Johnson. | ||
Michael Johnson got it done. | ||
He's doing the give me my money. | ||
He's doing the old Johnny Manziel. | ||
Michael Johnson. | ||
Oh, stand over. | ||
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Oh, wow. | |
Well, you're not doing any fans. | ||
He just said fuck you, bitch. | ||
Wow. | ||
It's a fight. | ||
He said, fuck him. | ||
And he just said, fuck him. | ||
Wow, there must have been some serious shit talking before this. | ||
Oh, look at Poirier talking shit to him. | ||
Yeah, you can't. | ||
You can't do that at this point. | ||
Why don't you guys fight? | ||
Oh, wait. | ||
You can't do that at this point. | ||
Remember when Tank Abbott fought Nelmark? | ||
He fought somebody. | ||
No, no, no. | ||
It wasn't him. | ||
It was a Taekwondo guy. | ||
Forget his name. | ||
But he fought a Taekwondo dude who fought in the earlier UFC. And Tank... | ||
Fucked him up and he fucked him up too long and the ref tried to stop, John McCarthy tried to stop it but he hit him like an extra shot and then the guy tried to fight Tank after that for fucking him up. | ||
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It was so weird like he wanted to fuck him up for fucking him up. | |
Dude, they're trying to rally Johnson here, just being like, dude, calm down. | ||
Oh, what's going on here, man? | ||
Because he keeps talking shit. | ||
Beautiful. | ||
He's totally out of position. | ||
Dustin Poirier's feet were totally out of position, and Johnson landed a perfect shot. | ||
Look, the referee lost his shoe. | ||
Powerful black sketch. | ||
First time ever. | ||
That's what you get to win fucking sketchers. | ||
Boom, bam. | ||
It's interesting from the other angle because his feet were completely out of position. | ||
And then he cracked him again. | ||
Damn. | ||
Look at this. | ||
Look at where Poirier's feet are. | ||
Look at where it lands. | ||
Great defense by Johnson. | ||
Yeah. | ||
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Boom. | |
Beautiful. | ||
Bam, bam, bam, bam. | ||
How cool would it be if you had a line to the truck from here? | ||
You know when you're working the show? | ||
Look at that! | ||
Look at that fucking walk! | ||
Dude, it took security and even Dan Mariola yanked him down the cage like, dude, calm down! | ||
Even the cut man was like, dude, chill! | ||
Quit talking shit! | ||
He's still doing that, give me my money thing. | ||
Give me my paper. | ||
Wow. | ||
See, this is where I was like, why are you cutting away from the controversy? | ||
Put it on. | ||
Let's hear what these guys are saying to each other. | ||
Yeah, I agree. | ||
Let's see what Johnson was saying to them. | ||
I'd much rather see that than this. | ||
Yeah, mic them up. | ||
I love me some Dan Hardy, but I'd much rather see those two jawing at it. | ||
Well, you know, there's time for that, and then there's time for this after that's done. | ||
It's true. | ||
It's also time for fucking Burger King. | ||
Let them jaw at each other. | ||
Come on, folks. | ||
Let's see what they said. | ||
I mean, they must have said some awful shit to each other for Johnson to knock him out and still be mad. | ||
You must have been saying some more awful shit for Security and the Cutman, like, hey, let's relax a little. | ||
You won, my man. | ||
Pretty amped up. | ||
It's always weird to me when guys are mad after the fight. | ||
Like, you won, man. | ||
You physically beat me up. | ||
Let's relax. | ||
Yeah. | ||
It's always weird to me. | ||
Wow, that's a setback and a half for Poirier. | ||
But that high you get. | ||
That high, like, I'm a fucking conqueror. | ||
Now I don't have to take any shit. | ||
Now you just want to fuck more people up, right? | ||
I can only imagine, because I've never, ever fucked anybody up. | ||
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Right? | |
I can never imagine. | ||
All I do is... | ||
Have you had animosity, Joe? | ||
You beat a guy. | ||
Let's say there's bad blood before. | ||
You guys fight. | ||
Do you carry on? | ||
Do you hold that bad blood in the locker room? | ||
No. | ||
Kind of get it out, right? | ||
I don't think so, yeah. | ||
Never. | ||
Usually. | ||
Have you ever fought a guy where it was just bad, mad shit talking like it was like... | ||
Out of control on Twitter and shit? | ||
Yeah, I've had a couple beefs like that where we had multiple fights. | ||
Me and Levin had three fights. | ||
Me and I fought Simon Marcus. | ||
You guys were on Twitter telling each other to fuck off and shit? | ||
Not really. | ||
I don't think Twitter. | ||
It was more like interviews and back and forth. | ||
MySpace. | ||
The Levin one was weird because Levin pulled out of your fight and then he fought Simon Marcus after that and just stopped fighting at one point in time, right? | ||
What happened in that fight? | ||
With Simon and Levin? | ||
I was there and I still don't know what happened. | ||
I think he got a warning or something for holding. | ||
I think he got an eight count. | ||
I think they fell between the ropes and Levin didn't get back in the ring fast enough so they gave him a standing eight count and he got pissed. | ||
But yeah, he just quit halfway through the fight. | ||
Just walked out of the ring and quit. | ||
And he hasn't really fought since, has he? | ||
No, I don't think so. | ||
You were saying that you didn't think that he wanted to fight anymore. | ||
It was like one of those things like the reason why... | ||
Yeah, I can't imagine anybody... | ||
I lost like... | ||
I had respect for him even though we had like... | ||
It was like we're rivalry. | ||
And then when he did that, I just... | ||
You're like the champion and you're representing kickboxing and you're representing your country and you're representing all this like shit and you quit because the... | ||
You know, you took your ball home and then gave up your world title. | ||
It was ridiculous. | ||
You know what I mean? | ||
Yeah. | ||
He got out of the ring defending his title and quit. | ||
Yeah. | ||
That was just weird to me. | ||
You don't see that, you know? | ||
It'd be interesting if Johnson talks shit here. | ||
Well, I think he's calmed down because they just hugged each other, you know? | ||
Let's hear what he's saying. | ||
Pay me, baby, what's up? | ||
Wow. | ||
See, everybody's going WWE. Well, but pay me what's up. | ||
Maybe if it's a contract. | ||
Crank. | ||
Bang. | ||
Dude. | ||
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This is a beautiful combination. | |
Look at this. | ||
Crank. | ||
Bang. | ||
Mm. | ||
Don't make Nate Diaz get in shape now. | ||
Is he a Division I wrestler as well? | ||
Yeah, very good wrestler. | ||
It's just weird how the referee lost his shoe. | ||
Do you tie your shoes? | ||
What's going on, buddy? | ||
Those are Skechers, sir. | ||
Have you ever lost your shoe in a scramble? | ||
Those are Skechers. | ||
Maybe they should be wearing wrestling shoes. | ||
That's a great idea. | ||
Chandler gave him a flat tire if you watch that back. | ||
No one should... | ||
He's wearing Skechers in a street fight. | ||
You mean Poirier or Johnson? | ||
I'm just kidding. | ||
Oh, look at this. | ||
Kaboosh! | ||
Oh, beautiful. | ||
How did he lose the shoe? | ||
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Where is it at? | |
He lost it. | ||
Oh, right there. | ||
Oh, that's a bad angle. | ||
I think Chandler gave him a flat tire. | ||
That's Dan. | ||
You know what? | ||
The shoe was probably too small because Dan's feet are so fucking big. | ||
He probably didn't have any shoes that fit him because Dan Mergliato's a giant. | ||
He's a giant man. | ||
He's got like a size 18 shoe. | ||
Couldn't find one at the mall. | ||
He's a big boy. | ||
Give me the 16. He looks like you should be wearing those New Bounce because they're extra wide foot. | ||
You know what I'm saying? | ||
People with really wide feet have those new balances, those weird old new balances. | ||
Maybe he put the 16 on, but he said, I just won't tie them. | ||
It's not going to be a problem. | ||
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I'll wear these. | |
It's not going to be an issue. | ||
Like sandals. | ||
I won't tie them. | ||
Hey, you know that SAP function for the UFC, that SAP? Yes, for Spanish. | ||
You can hear the Spanish commentary? | ||
What if the UFC came to you and said, we want to add an option to listen to the Fight Companion? | ||
See, the problem with that is then we would have to guarantee we're going to do it. | ||
We don't always want to do it. | ||
Yeah. | ||
You know? | ||
Like, sometimes we're out of town. | ||
Like, the beautiful thing about The Fight Companion is, we're independent. | ||
You know? | ||
We get together, and we really would be doing this anyway. | ||
What if they owed two billion dollars? | ||
Okay. | ||
Yeah, what do I got to do? | ||
I want to hang out with Lorenzo in Italy. | ||
I want to get a yacht and be like, what's up? | ||
Is that the end? | ||
Is that the yacht? | ||
The yacht and the helicopter and the private jet, that's the last shit, right? | ||
There's nothing over that. | ||
No, islands. | ||
Islands is the last thing. | ||
Islands where you land your yacht or your helicopter. | ||
Yeah, by the time you have an island, you already have a yacht and a helicopter. | ||
And a jet. | ||
Yachts, like... | ||
You're a white belt at being a billionaire, right? | ||
Yeah. | ||
It's like, okay, you got a yacht. | ||
That's cute. | ||
Standard. | ||
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Yeah. | |
You know there's Uber boat. | ||
So you're a billionaire starter kid. | ||
Oh, dude, he got lit up. | ||
God damn. | ||
That was a ferocious stoppage. | ||
That was ferocious. | ||
What's the latest on jetpacks? | ||
I mean, you've been doing that joke in 2000 about how... | ||
Why the fuck? | ||
Because they had jetpacks in the 70s. | ||
That was in 2006. In the 70s. | ||
They had jetpacks on chips. | ||
I don't know if you're over 40, you might remember chips with Eric Estrada. | ||
I love chips. | ||
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Yeah, they had fucking jetpacks back then. | |
You're telling me? | ||
That was real? | ||
That shit should be mastered. | ||
Yes, they've had jetpacks. | ||
You could... | ||
I don't think they had jetpacks. | ||
I don't think that was real. | ||
I don't think that was real. | ||
No, no, no, no, jetpack. | ||
Hey, if they weren't real, I believe it. | ||
Listen, I was in Denver with my boy Willie from KBPI in Denver. | ||
Love Willie. | ||
106.7. | ||
And Willie took me into the parking lot. | ||
They had a show that they did live from the parking lot where a dude flew a jetpack. | ||
So jetpacks do exist, but the dude who flew it had two ACL braces on. | ||
I go, what's up with the ACL braces? | ||
He's like, dude, I fucking crashed this thing so many times. | ||
I've torn my legs apart. | ||
He goes, at this point, I'm not even going to bother getting them fixed. | ||
Yeah, they have them. | ||
But the one that this guy had, this guy, this is a much newer prototype. | ||
With Willy and the gentleman who we saw, this was like 2000. Yeah, let's get some good looks at this. | ||
So back then, they could only do it, he said they could only fly for 30 seconds. | ||
So what would happen is he would go 15 seconds up, and then it would take about, he really wanted to go down. | ||
He said, I'd like to land in about 5 seconds. | ||
He's like, because I've needed a buffer at like 30 seconds, you're basically out of juice. | ||
That's awesome. | ||
Complete waste of time. | ||
Hey! | ||
But for now, see, the thing is, virtual reality- They've been working on that for 50 years, dude! | ||
They've been working on this forever! | ||
Virtual reality used to be a waste of time, too, until the computers and the technology caught up. | ||
Now, they have virtual reality that'll freak you the fuck out, man. | ||
There's a crazy virtual reality- Not the one you showed me. | ||
No, no, no, no. | ||
You never did it. | ||
You never did it. | ||
I didn't show you anything. | ||
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Yeah, you did. | |
No, I didn't. | ||
No, I didn't. | ||
What did you show me? | ||
You never put a goggle on. | ||
You never went to it. | ||
I saw the graphics. | ||
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. | ||
You're seeing it in two dimensions. | ||
It doesn't mean anything. | ||
When you put that goggles on and you're looking around this world, even if the graphics aren't perfect, they freak you the fuck out. | ||
Yeah, people get vertigo. | ||
They get weird. | ||
You're walking a wire in a canyon. | ||
And you're like, holy shit, I'm scared of heights. | ||
Even in this fucking... | ||
I was in some hallway. | ||
Well, there's a boxing one. | ||
It's kind of like shit. | ||
Really? | ||
There's a boxing one, yeah. | ||
Well, you box this guy. | ||
It's weird because you hold these handles. | ||
You got to hold them like this for your fist to look like this in the game. | ||
It's very strange. | ||
So, like, it looks like you're hitting the guy like this with your hands, but you're really doing this in the air. | ||
So it's not 100% like boxing technique, but you could change that. | ||
I mean, you could definitely change it to you're putting something in your hand and wherever position your hand is in, that's the position the gloves would be in, and then it would feel a lot more natural. | ||
But it's very, this is what it looks like. | ||
It's very rudimentary right now. | ||
But, as far as, like, movement, and as far as, like, teaching someone how to avoid punches and counter, you don't feel anything when you hit them. | ||
But you do have to move correctly in order to hit them. | ||
What happens if you throw the right technique? | ||
The punch just doesn't catch up with it? | ||
What happens if you do throw? | ||
It doesn't matter because it's not based on how the punch actually, what position the glove is when it lands. | ||
It's based on whether the glove lands. | ||
Wouldn't it be cool to do it with some kind of helmet that had electroids that connect to your brain where you could kind of feel when you get hit? | ||
Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
Get zapped. | ||
Yeah, a little zap. | ||
But then that kills you. | ||
It turns out that that gives you Parkinson's quicker than actual... | ||
Head trauma. | ||
Well, here's what happened. | ||
The dude in the video game caught me with a punch, and when they catch you, you see a flash. | ||
That's kind of cool. | ||
And it gives you the same feeling that happens when you get punched. | ||
You're like, oh shit, I better move. | ||
A white flash? | ||
Yeah, but it gives you that, oh shit, we're in trouble. | ||
That's pretty dope. | ||
It gives you that same little weird endorphin rush if you get actually punched in the face. | ||
It's very interesting. | ||
Very interesting. | ||
So what I'm thinking is, if someone develops a program where they take a guy like you, and Joe Schilling does his kickboxing techniques, and you literally... | ||
I mean, it's going to have to be one or two more... | ||
Like versions of this improvements, but it's gonna get to a point where it's virtual it's a point where it's super high resolution so they could hire a guy like you to throw kicks and punches and in a in a computer simulation where all of your different kicks and punches are all programmed in there along with like patterns that you might use and someone can actually practice fighting you without fighting you Like your opponents. | ||
Yeah. | ||
That's crazy. | ||
Kind of nuts. | ||
You would get used to seeing you across the cage. | ||
That would be illegal to steal someone's fucking moves. | ||
Can you imagine your trainer sold your fucking program to the enemy? | ||
Imagine all of your training where you need a partner that you're doing. | ||
You're basically doing eye training at that point. | ||
A drill where you're doing actual real-time head movement. | ||
If I could wear that shit. | ||
You could, dude. | ||
I'm telling you. | ||
You really could. | ||
Sitting on my couch, laying in bed, and I never do that shit all the time. | ||
It's attached to a cord, so it would be weird for, like, spinning things. | ||
It would be weird if you're trying to throw spinning elbows or spinning kicks or move too much. | ||
You know, if you had too much footwork, you might get tangled up in this. | ||
But how long before this motherfucker's wireless? | ||
And once that thing's wireless, then you're just wearing a helmet, and you're basically in some Enter the Dragon room. | ||
Because you set these things up, and where Duncan had it, he had it in his office, which is essentially like the same size as this room. | ||
You got a camera up there, and a camera up there, and it makes a grid on the ground. | ||
And that grid on the ground is the battlefield. | ||
That grid is where you duke it out. | ||
Like, there's an archery game, and that grid represents a castle, and these invading armies are coming, and you're shooting at them with bows and arrows. | ||
Dude! | ||
Dude! | ||
It's already in a backpack, so it's off of big wires. | ||
It's not fully wireless. | ||
That bitch got some Xbox on her back. | ||
That looks wireless to me. | ||
Which version is this, Jamie? | ||
It's the Vive. | ||
It's the same thing you used, but the whole computer is on her back. | ||
Is that an Alienware? | ||
It's a company, MSI, I believe. | ||
Are they for sale, Joe? | ||
Yeah, you can buy them. | ||
You buy them right now. | ||
Duncan's house. | ||
I thought maybe Duncan got like a prototype. | ||
No, I mean for him to try it out. | ||
Yeah, Eddie, you could try it out at Duncan's house. | ||
No, you can buy them. | ||
Yeah. | ||
There's not a place where you can go, like an internet cafe where they had a bunch of these. | ||
For now. | ||
They put you in a room, eight bucks an hour. | ||
It's going to knock yourself out. | ||
It's going to happen. | ||
I'm telling you this technology is going to change the fucking world. | ||
There's no arcades anymore, right? | ||
Yeah, there are arcades. | ||
Let's try going to Castle Park. | ||
I take my son there like every once or twice a week, Castle Park. | ||
We were there today. | ||
That shit's packed. | ||
As long as there's kids, there's going to be video games and arcades. | ||
Because on the weekends, and miniature golf, they don't even have to take care of the fucking miniature golf. | ||
Well, miniature golf makes sense. | ||
It's packed on the weekends, man. | ||
And during the summer, you got kids, you want to take them to fun places. | ||
Arcades are killing it, though. | ||
There's arcades. | ||
Those Dave and Busters are everywhere. | ||
They're all across the country. | ||
I take my kids to Dave and Busters constantly. | ||
All kinds of crazy games. | ||
Anything for kids. | ||
I get the big blockbuster movies for kids all the goddamn time. | ||
Everything's for kids and music for kids and fucking Britney Spears and Justin Bieber. | ||
I get it. | ||
You want to make your kids happy and all that bullshit. | ||
They like that bullshit. | ||
Britney Spears. | ||
Nintendo Glove. | ||
Gushers. | ||
Britney Spears is not for little kids. | ||
It's for, like, secretaries. | ||
Neither is Beavers. | ||
Yeah, neither is Beavers. | ||
It's like horny secretaries. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Britney Spears. | ||
Girls are just sitting there typing, thinking about dick. | ||
Dude, you're going to be taking your kid to Toys R Us eventually, and just let him get on the bikes, and then he's just going to be riding his bike like The Shining and shit, and you just fall, and you take him there to ride the bikes, and then eventually one of the cashiers there, one out of three times, will say, you can't just be riding these bikes. | ||
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You're riding bikes. | |
And he goes through The Shining, like all through every aisle around the whole giant Toys R Us in Burbank. | ||
Well, I like seeing what... | ||
I was just there with my son the other day at Baby's Toys R Us. | ||
Now it's like one big-ass place. | ||
The toys are very similar. | ||
It's still Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, G.I. Joe's action figures, micro-machines, but they're really not micro, they're just regular now. | ||
But same shit, really. | ||
Dude, your kid's going to be on your phone going through your pictures and shit. | ||
No, hell no. | ||
No phones. | ||
No, that's going to happen. | ||
For sure it's going to happen. | ||
You're going to be sitting with your kid and he's like, can I see a video? | ||
You're going to be watching a video. | ||
He's going to want to see it too. | ||
What are you going to say? | ||
No. | ||
You're going to be sitting there. | ||
You guys are going to be looking at videos together, music videos and shit on your phone. | ||
He's going to have a Pokemon Go account on your phone. | ||
He's going to have his own YouTube channel. | ||
Nothing's easy, but having a business where kids come for entertainment, man, that's like... | ||
Once you figure that out, that's forever. | ||
There's a place called Dizzy B's in Valencia. | ||
It's a giant place with these tubes and slides and the kids go nuts. | ||
They're Billy B's. | ||
Have you ever heard of Billy B's in Valencia? | ||
Gigantic tube place, tube park. | ||
It's fun for adults. | ||
I go in there with my kid and we start sliding down. | ||
It's awesome. | ||
What are you showing us, Jamie? | ||
Is that virtual reality? | ||
No, this is Jetman Dubai. | ||
These guys are flying on these self-propelled... | ||
I think they have to leave from a plane. | ||
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Whoa! | |
But once they're in the air... | ||
Look at that shit. | ||
It's like a... | ||
How long they go for? | ||
Holy shit! | ||
I don't know, I think they have gas of some kind. | ||
Oh my god, that's so crazy. | ||
Dude, that's amazing. | ||
They said, fuck your 30 seconds. | ||
I wonder how long that tank lasts for. | ||
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Holy shit! | |
These guys are human planes. | ||
Those are birds. | ||
Oh my god, that's insane. | ||
Look at that thing. | ||
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Is that real? | |
That's not real. | ||
That's real. | ||
It looks fake. | ||
No, it's fake. | ||
It's a real video. | ||
That's not like, in the future, this is what it's gonna look like. | ||
No, no, no. | ||
We're working on it. | ||
We need like investment. | ||
They're trying to invest in it. | ||
If they show them right now, that's real. | ||
No, Eddie, it's real. | ||
This is 100% real. | ||
I've already seen this. | ||
Oh, you've seen it? | ||
Yeah, this is real. | ||
Dude, look how close they are to the jet engines. | ||
So bad. | ||
So dangerous. | ||
What if it catches fire like a Samsung phone, just burns your dick 30,000 feet in the air. | ||
It only catches your dick on fire, and then it goes out. | ||
So your dick is gone. | ||
That takes suicide bombing to the whole fucking level, right? | ||
Can you imagine that shit? | ||
I would just undo those straps, and I'd be like, we're done here. | ||
We're done here. | ||
We're just going to go 30,000 feet and out. | ||
Fuck your flying squirrel suit. | ||
Yeah, that's just not my way. | ||
Didn't Red Bull have one? | ||
Weren't they the first to do it? | ||
But it wasn't jet propelled. | ||
It was like a suit. | ||
They still parachute though, right? | ||
That's so crazy. | ||
One false move and they're dead as fuck. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Yeah, for sure. | ||
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Camp Trails. | |
Look at that. | ||
Yeah, they're chemtrailing the fuck out of Dubai. | ||
Oh my god. | ||
Yeah, my friend Andy, he does those wingsuits. | ||
See, that's insane. | ||
Which is even crazier because he doesn't even have an engine behind him. | ||
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Yeah. | |
And they're like right... | ||
Have you ever seen him crash on one of those things? | ||
Oh yeah. | ||
I saw the video of one guy from a GoPro, like from his point of view where he hits the ground. | ||
He just timed it shitty. | ||
It'll fuck your night up. | ||
He's going a hundred and something miles an hour too. | ||
See the one where the guy hit the bridge? | ||
No, no. | ||
It's not good. | ||
It's not hard. | ||
You can't see the aftermath of it. | ||
You can just see him hit. | ||
There's people watching it. | ||
It's not good. | ||
Pull it up. | ||
I'd love to see it, Jamie. | ||
Let's end this fucker with that. | ||
Let's end it with the guy running to the bridge. | ||
What is it? | ||
People love fucking thrills, man. | ||
I mean, why do we like this Johnson Poirier fight? | ||
Because we love thrills, right? | ||
We love craziness. | ||
Oh, Jesus! | ||
People love watching things. | ||
They love doing thrilling things. | ||
Some people just have to go so far to get their dick card. | ||
This guy dies? | ||
He's coming in a gorge. | ||
There's a bunch of people on a bridge. | ||
He was trying to be a little bit of a hot dog, they said, and trying to go really closer than he was supposed to go. | ||
One guy went under the bridge and one guy went over. | ||
He's the guy that was going over. | ||
I had a friend who was into this. | ||
Hold on a second. | ||
Boom! | ||
Donski. | ||
Oh my god, he just hit the bridge? | ||
That sound is him hitting the bridge? | ||
Hold on, play that back. | ||
And see that other guy? | ||
There's another guy that's behind him. | ||
Play that sound again. | ||
Hold on a second. | ||
That's game over, son. | ||
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Whoa. | |
Play that one more time. | ||
Listen to that sound. | ||
Listen to the sound. | ||
They knew before. | ||
The guy said, oh shit, before. | ||
I knew a guy who was training for this. | ||
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You gotta do so many skydiving jumps to do this. | |
And by the time he was qualified to do a base jump, so many of his group have died that he decided to back out. | ||
It's like, too many people are dying. | ||
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These guys die all the goddamn time. | |
That's him hitting the wall and bouncing off. | ||
One wrong move and you're dead. | ||
It's over. | ||
Oh, shit! | ||
Fuck, man. | ||
Holy shit. | ||
God, we're just can't have any mistakes. | ||
Oh, look what it did to the bar. | ||
That's an efficient... | ||
Oh, he... | ||
Who's that? | ||
That's something else. | ||
You could go down a wound rabbit hole on YouTube. | ||
When I was a kid, you had to work to get a copy of Faces of Death. | ||
You had to actually go out. | ||
You had to seek it. | ||
You had to go to that weird area, the video store. | ||
You had to hope somebody else hadn't rented it before you. | ||
Any little fucking kid whose parents aren't paying attention can go on YouTube now and watch dudes bounce off of cliffs and buildings and get run over by trucks and car accidents. | ||
If YouTube doesn't catch it, those things, they stay on for a while. | ||
And fucking high school kids are probably the first to find those things. | ||
You got a smart little fucker. | ||
He's on that underweb looking at all sorts of shit. | ||
God, man. | ||
What the input to someone's mind. | ||
The underweb? | ||
Is that real? | ||
Dark web. | ||
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That seems like such a trap. | |
Like, yeah, it's an underweb. | ||
You could do all sorts of crazy shit. | ||
Yeah, but it just seems like it's a trap. | ||
A trap. | ||
Well, you can't do all sorts of crazy shit. | ||
They've arrested people. | ||
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Exactly. | |
The guy who created that website... | ||
What was the website? | ||
Silk Road. | ||
Silk Road, yeah. | ||
He's actually in jail for life. | ||
For facilities. | ||
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He's out? | |
No, I was just saying he's not out. | ||
There's a pretty interesting... | ||
I don't know if it's a documentary is the way you want to word it, but on Viceland's show, I think it's... | ||
I can't remember the name of it, but they take a guy onto the dark web. | ||
They show you, like, this is going on a website. | ||
Here's the eBay. | ||
Here's how you buy stuff with Bitcoin. | ||
Oh, look, there's heroin. | ||
How do you trade my cash for Bitcoin? | ||
I wonder if that's been tightened up because of the trial. | ||
The trial was really crazy because it turns out that the DEA agents, the people who are investigating them, wind up stealing the Bitcoin money. | ||
So the investigating guys wound up stealing hundreds of thousands of dollars, and then the guy who created the whole thing still wound up going to jail. | ||
So there was obviously some fuckery and shenanigans and real corruption going on. | ||
And this dude's in jail for life. | ||
He's in jail for life, but they said that... | ||
See, I don't really know what he did, but I think they said that he was trying to get someone murdered. | ||
That was one of the possibilities, right? | ||
That someone had suggested... | ||
They murder somebody and he was trying to set something up. | ||
That makes sense. | ||
You can't be ordering killings of people. | ||
I just remember watching that movie that Alex Winter made. | ||
He was in the deep web and you can learn a lot about it. | ||
Yeah, he didn't believe it. | ||
Alex didn't believe it. | ||
It was an interesting documentary. | ||
I watched the documentary before Alex came in. | ||
He didn't believe it, but the reality is he doesn't know. | ||
You don't really know what a guy did or didn't do unless you were there. | ||
We know the cops were liars, though. | ||
They were stealing money. | ||
The very cops that were in charge of the case were stealing money From the account. | ||
So the whole thing is so crazy. | ||
Jamie, how do they still work? | ||
How does that work? | ||
Because anybody can be in. | ||
There's no fucking meetings. | ||
It's just a bunch of people online that are tired of bullshit. | ||
I'm down with that. | ||
Really, really smart people. | ||
Yes, but how do you know it's not fake? | ||
Like how come because they're all wearing masks? | ||
How do you know people aren't putting fake? | ||
How do you know the fake anonymous videos are the real ones? | ||
Anybody can be there. | ||
I mean, I don't know. | ||
I mean, how would you? | ||
I would have to talk to someone who's legitimately anonymous to get the full details. | ||
It's still going strong and they're still fighting crime, right? | ||
They definitely do. | ||
They definitely catch people that have done fucked up shit. | ||
Oh yeah. | ||
What was the latest thing they've done? | ||
Well, I remember one story about a girl who was throwing puppies in a river. | ||
Remember that shit? | ||
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No, I don't. | |
And they found her and they doxxed her information. | ||
Damn. | ||
You know, they've done some things. | ||
You know, they've closed down and hacked into databases and companies are doing shady shit. | ||
What's going on here? | ||
This isn't new, but Ari did a podcast with a couple guys that were in Anonymous, or they claim to be in Anonymous. | ||
So if you want to find that out, you can check out SkepticTank79 and listen to Ari talk with a couple guys. | ||
I'm just confused as how it's organized. | ||
Excellent. | ||
Is there an Anonymous, like an official, there's an official Twitter? | ||
Like who runs that? | ||
No, no, no. | ||
There can't be, because then, like... | ||
People would know who they are. | ||
I gotta say before I forget, Ari Shafir's latest podcast is with Henry Rollins. | ||
Not all those who wander are lost. | ||
It's fucking amazing. | ||
That Henry Rollins guy is crazy. | ||
He's crazy. | ||
He goes all over the world. | ||
No, he's amazing. | ||
That'd be amazing to have him. | ||
I have a total newfound appreciation for him after listening to him on that podcast. | ||
They told me his work ethic. | ||
We work with the same guys for our live shows. | ||
And they were telling us about Henry Rollins and his work ethic on the live shows. | ||
It's insane, man. | ||
I can only imagine. | ||
He goes to these weird places. | ||
He picks a spot in the world, travels there, and spends like a month there. | ||
And just brings a typewriter, or rather a camera, and maybe a laptop. | ||
And, you know, his clothes and shit. | ||
And just lives with these people. | ||
And just goes to like Kuala Lumpur. | ||
Okay, let's try that place. | ||
Goes by himself. | ||
Goes and hangs out. | ||
Takes photos during the day and at nighttime, writes stories about it. | ||
You know, and he writes stories for a bunch of different publications. | ||
I don't want to give away any more of it because it's just an awesome podcast. | ||
Interesting dude. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Ari ran into him. | ||
I think Ari was in Stockholm and he was doing stand-up and Henry Rollins was there doing something else and they met up. | ||
Yeah, he's an interesting guy. | ||
Talented guy. | ||
I always thought he was very smart and interesting and very passionate about a lot of things, but hearing him on Ari's podcast gave me a whole different appreciation for him. | ||
I feel like you guys would connect. | ||
Maybe. | ||
On certain things. | ||
I think it'd be fun. | ||
Maybe he'd hate me. | ||
Or maybe you'd hate him. | ||
I don't think so. | ||
No, you guys be friends. | ||
Yeah, I think listening to him on the Ari's podcast, I would find him completely fascinating. | ||
I just really respect that completely off the beaten path choice of just deciding. | ||
He goes to these places and he'll just go and, you know, hang out in Afghanistan. | ||
He's kind of always been a guy who's done it his way, which I appreciate. | ||
Yeah, I mean, he started off as a musician, and then now what he does is he writes, and he does, like, these spoken word things. | ||
Apparently he's doing a run at Largo in December, so I might go down there and check that out. | ||
Yeah, they say his live show's badass, and it sells out like a motherfucker. | ||
Well, I mean, it's interesting. | ||
He's kind of, like, kind of doing stand-up, but not, you know, he's really just telling stories about things, so he's not confined, which is, you know, a lot of people find... | ||
Like, uh, podcast very freeing, because it's one of the few times that comics aren't confined to this constant need to be funny, like, all the time, like, over and over and over again. | ||
Like, sometimes it shows that are just funny back and forth, funny back and forth, but you don't have to. | ||
Like, sometimes there's a moment in a podcast where you just have to, you want to kind of explore something. | ||
You can't really do that on stage, though. | ||
A comic can't really do that on stage unless they do some sort of a weird, artsy, one-person show. | ||
But a guy like Rollins, he doesn't have any defined pattern that his shows have to follow. | ||
Yeah, he's not in a box. | ||
He's not a comedian. | ||
He can get up there and do... | ||
I know he has his guitar. | ||
He tells these epic stories from his life. | ||
You're right, though. | ||
He can do whatever he wants. | ||
You're not going to that show going, make me laugh, clown. | ||
I need to laugh in the first 10 or 15 minutes. | ||
Go. | ||
Go. | ||
It's kind of interesting what you guys do with Fighter and the Kid, too. | ||
It's because you're doing a podcast, but you do a podcast live. | ||
And you're doing this podcast live, and it's kind of a comedy show, but it's kind of whatever the fuck you want it to be show. | ||
You can kind of make your own sort of format of entertainment. | ||
The live podcast format is a new form of entertainment in a way. | ||
And I've only done a couple of them. | ||
I did one of my own and a bunch of other people's ones. | ||
And the thing, the interesting thing about it is, it's not the same thing when an audience is there. | ||
When you're doing it live, it becomes way more of like, their attention span is taken into consideration much more. | ||
Yeah, and Brian had the great idea to perform. | ||
Like, it's a performance, you know, there's scripted parts, and it's broken up into segments. | ||
When he decided to do it, I did my research and I went to some of the live podcasts. | ||
I'm like, dude, these people are loyal fans, devoted, but this is boring, man. | ||
It's just two guys on a mic talking. | ||
There's not much to see. | ||
And especially if you're in a comedy place, like if you're doing the store or you have to play improv where they're used to seeing big acts and people who entertain, you got to kind of do your thing, man. | ||
You're not going to be able to just talk like buddies. | ||
You got to have a plan. | ||
Yeah, if you're doing a big venue, for sure. | ||
Kevin Smith used to have this little theater in Hollywood. | ||
And I did a podcast there with him. | ||
I did one with Norton there. | ||
I did my podcast there with Norton a long time ago. | ||
And his theater only seats... | ||
I don't think he has it anymore... | ||
But it only seats like 40 people. | ||
It's like this tiny little place. | ||
It's essentially like an acting studio where people would take acting classes and then they'd come down to the stage and perform. | ||
It was so intimate, it was bizarre. | ||
What was this format? | ||
Was it like a podcast? | ||
Because then I don't think you have to put on a show as much. | ||
Exactly. | ||
Podcast, yeah. | ||
But it's a podcast in front of a really small, super, super intimate crowd. | ||
Like almost too intimate. | ||
Like Wally George. | ||
Remember that? | ||
Wally George. | ||
Remember Wally George? | ||
I do, but I don't. | ||
From the 80s. | ||
Was he the guy with the weird hair? | ||
Yes. | ||
And he was on Late Night? | ||
Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
Oh, that's right. | ||
He was the cable TV guy. | ||
I was in the audience of one of his shows because they would cut to the audience. | ||
He filmed in Anaheim. | ||
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There he is. | |
Wally George. | ||
He filmed in Anaheim. | ||
I gotta piss. | ||
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Oh. | |
Guys, keep this going without me, will you? | ||
Keep this going without me, will you? | ||
You don't remember Wally George. | ||
You're too young for that, right? | ||
I don't. | ||
Wally George. | ||
He's like an insane... | ||
What's he from? | ||
He had this... | ||
I guess it was like you know that What's it called? | ||
Free Access TV? Public Access. | ||
Public Access TV show. | ||
It was Channel 6 in Denver, Colorado. | ||
And he filmed in Anaheim, and he was just... | ||
His character was a total D-bag, but super Republican D-bag and yelled at people. | ||
He was just over the goddamn top. | ||
You're just doing it for ratings? | ||
Hot Seat. | ||
That's the name of it. | ||
It was insane. | ||
Do you still do your podcast, Eddie? | ||
No, man. | ||
You should stop doing it. | ||
Yeah. | ||
It's just... | ||
Maybe I'll come back and do it. | ||
Maybe I will. | ||
But we did like 60 or 70 episodes, something like that. | ||
I don't even remember. | ||
I never go back and listen to them. | ||
And I said enough shit. | ||
I'm like, do I want to be a fucking host? | ||
I don't want to be a host of shit. | ||
Maybe I'll change my mind. | ||
Maybe I will. | ||
I don't want to be that guy who says same shit over and over again, because when you're running a show, you do. | ||
You have to repeat that story because some people haven't heard it, and then the people who have heard it, your hardcore fans, are like, here he goes with that fucking show. | ||
Depends on your guest, too, because did you have a partner, or was it just you? | ||
Man, I'd have a room full of people. | ||
I just invited five people at a time just to have this conversation, just like this. | ||
I wanted four or five people to talk. | ||
But after a while, I get sick of hearing myself tell the same goddamn story. | ||
I think I've said enough. | ||
I think I've said enough. | ||
I mean, do I want to be a host of some shit? | ||
I really don't feel like I want to be a host. | ||
If you ever get the itch to do a podcast, you know you can always do this one. | ||
You know? | ||
You can always come on and do my podcast. | ||
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Well, no, no. | |
I'm not talking about being a guest. | ||
I was asking about him doing his own show. | ||
But I'm saying... | ||
That's what I'm saying. | ||
Like, if you just want to do it occasionally and just get the itch out, you know you've got an open invitation. | ||
You know what? | ||
I, uh... | ||
Have you heard of that show Rockline? | ||
It's been on for 30 years, Bob Coburn, KLOS, big, huge, like that Guns N' Roses, Kiss, like all the big, biggest rock legends would get on KLOS once a week. | ||
It's called Rockline. | ||
It's huge in LA. Well, Bob Coburn came down with some kind of cancer or whatever, and the show's on hiatus, and the producer of the show, he wants me to bring my podcast back, and He said, dude, let me put together something for you, and I'm on the fence about it. | ||
You know, if we do this, who knows? | ||
Who knows who? | ||
I don't know. | ||
I don't know. | ||
Listen, you're a fun guy to listen to, man. | ||
Just do it. | ||
It's not like you don't sign a contract or anything. | ||
Just do it. | ||
It'd have to be, just like you said, it'd have to be in a way where if I want to just do it on my pace, I don't want people like, oh, you've got to do four shows. | ||
Well, you have a studio. | ||
You have a studio, you know? | ||
My studio actually sucks because it's a rehearsal studio and sometimes I'll have guests and there's a drummer that practices it. | ||
I've done podcasts where the drummer just shredding for two hours. | ||
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Well, that's a problem. | |
I've done that. | ||
It becomes a problem. | ||
Well, you don't want it, Joe's right. | ||
Same with the companions. | ||
Let's say someone's like, oh, we want to take this on and pay you guys a jillion dollars. | ||
It takes the fun out of it if it's work. | ||
If we have to see each other once a week... | ||
Just take that money, bitch. | ||
Listen to me. | ||
Well, a billion's different. | ||
If I decided to try to do that just to test it out, maybe I'd take you up on your offer and... | ||
Maybe, you know? | ||
Who knows? | ||
Maybe, you know? | ||
Sounds like you don't know. | ||
I don't know. | ||
I'm on the fucking fence. | ||
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I don't know. | |
Yeah, man. | ||
That's a good thing. | ||
Listen, if you ever want to do it from here, like, one day, just for a goof, just bring it back one day for a goof. | ||
You know, we could do it together. | ||
I might do that. | ||
I might do that. | ||
I think that you should do whatever the fuck you want to do. | ||
And you stop doing it for a reason. | ||
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Yeah. | |
You stop doing it because you're so overwhelmed with responsibilities, with family, with jiu-jitsu teaching, with running EBI. It's not a priority. | ||
There's a lot going on. | ||
Especially with that. | ||
It's like, fuck, am I going to have a podcast, run EBI, run Tenth Planet, make music? | ||
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Am I still... | |
Fuck! | ||
There's a lot going on. | ||
There's too much. | ||
And then I got my son there, and these are the most important years of his life, and I'm hanging out with him, and I'm trying to shut things off. | ||
I'm really focusing on trying to just shut the world off. | ||
Was your podcast making money? | ||
No. | ||
I never tried to even look for fucking sponsors, man. | ||
I was just doing it on my own free time, just for the fun of it. | ||
And I think I've said enough, man. | ||
All the episodes are still up on YouTube. | ||
I don't want to fucking repeat any other stories. | ||
Even having sponsors is a fucking responsibility that you have to consider. | ||
Because what if you have a sponsor that's not good? | ||
What if you have a sponsor that rips people off or something where it goes wrong? | ||
There was a sponsor that came to me that was like an Uber for nannies. | ||
For people taking care of your kids. | ||
That's a brilliant idea. | ||
That's a great idea. | ||
It's a terrible idea. | ||
You don't even know this part. | ||
What if they behave like Uber drivers? | ||
You don't even know these fucking people. | ||
I heard it for a second. | ||
I go, no fucking way. | ||
I was like, no fucking way. | ||
But if they guaranteed that their babysitters run through a rigorous background check. | ||
You've got to be careful of that stuff. | ||
I've had this conversation with Joe before, too. | ||
Certain sponsors, we've turned down, I won't say the name of the company, but Two mega sponsors, because Cal and I, A, don't believe in the product, B, our audience would be like, get the fuck out of here. | ||
This isn't real. | ||
You guys just do it for a paycheck. | ||
So we turned them down. | ||
We had one that was a suit company. | ||
Soup or suit? | ||
Suit. | ||
And you would have to go get tailored, and they'd send the suit in the mail, like these world-class suits. | ||
What's wrong with that? | ||
Well, what's wrong with that is both mine and Cal's came in the mail, and they were just so shitty. | ||
We're just like, we can't do this, man. | ||
Because dude's gonna order suits, and then they come all shitty, and they're like, dude, this is, you know? | ||
Can't have it. | ||
Yeah, that ain't good. | ||
You know how it goes. | ||
Well, that's smart that you guys did that. | ||
That's smart. | ||
Because the last thing you want to do is disappoint your fans in a way like that, where you can avoid it. | ||
You know, it's one thing if you get tricked. | ||
But if you could avoid it, it's just hard because right now it's really opening up the market as far as people that are advertising on podcasts. | ||
But they're not like mainstream names. | ||
You don't hear like Chevrolet advertising on podcasts or Samsung. | ||
Imagine if Samsung did. | ||
Well, they should if you go back and listen to that shit on them. | ||
Well, if they're smart, they would because there's no better platform for loyal listeners than a fucking podcast who's going to listen to Rogan Talk for whatever, six hours a week, nine hours a week. | ||
They're dedicated, man. | ||
There's nothing like it. | ||
TV ain't shit. | ||
A 30-second commercial ain't shit. | ||
Do people want to fast-forward those? | ||
No one's watching TV. I have 500 fucking channels. | ||
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I never watch TV. I watch TV. I watch TV. Sports. | |
No, no, no. | ||
I watch Netflix. | ||
I generally don't. | ||
I'm always on my Apple TV. I'm always on Netflix. | ||
Always on the Apple. | ||
Always on Netflix. | ||
The only time I watch regular TV is when The Ultimate Fighter comes on or something. | ||
When I fast forward through football. | ||
Podcasts, if they were smart, man, with your audience or someone like Dan Carlin or NPR, that's where it's at these days for advertisers. | ||
Well, they will more and more. | ||
They will more and more as they grow. | ||
Dan Carlin told me he's in a weird position because he gets a fuckload of downloads, but he does his podcast so infrequently that the best model for him, as far as cash, is actually to do it through subscriptions. | ||
So when you order it from iTunes, especially the older episodes, it costs $1.99. | ||
That makes sense for him. | ||
But let me tell you something, it is worth so much more than that. | ||
Like his fucking podcasts, they're like a work of art. | ||
Who? | ||
Dan Carlin. | ||
I'll send you a link to Hardcore History. | ||
Wrath of the Khans, all about Genghis Khan and the Mongol Empire. | ||
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Dude! | |
If he was our history teacher, we would all be fucking so into history. | ||
Love history. | ||
He was on last week on my podcast. | ||
He's such a dynamic guy. | ||
We were just talking about him. | ||
What's his name? | ||
Dan Carlin. | ||
I love that dude. | ||
He's so awesome. | ||
You guys opened the show with Flat Earth stuff? | ||
No, no, no. | ||
Who's that guy? | ||
Not Dan Carlin. | ||
He's too smart for that shit. | ||
What's that? | ||
Michael Shermer. | ||
Yeah, Michael Shermer. | ||
Dan Carlin would have slapped somebody if you brought that up, though. | ||
Yeah, he's not really into Flat Earth. | ||
But he's got such a deep knowledge of so much fucking history, and he prepares for months to get these things ready. | ||
That's how it's different, right? | ||
Like, a lot of podcasts... | ||
Like you said on the show, you just turn on and you're having a conversation with your buddies. | ||
Carlin has to fucking go balls deep into how he's going to articulate it, the plan, and there's start and finish, and it's history. | ||
So it's not an opinion. | ||
Well, we were talking about it, and I was like, you know, what we're doing is a podcast. | ||
What you're doing is like an audio art piece. | ||
It's like a work of art that's also historically accurate. | ||
It's like an audio book. | ||
Yeah. | ||
It's way different. | ||
You termed it an audio show. | ||
Yeah, he's way more of a... | ||
And now I use that. | ||
Where does he get his... | ||
Obviously he knows everything about Genghis Khan. | ||
Where does he get his information from? | ||
He gives you a bunch of different references that he uses from various history books. | ||
And he also shows the discrepancies in the opinions. | ||
How one person believed it was this, but another person... | ||
So he gives you a balanced perspective too. | ||
But then relays the undeniable facts... | ||
So he tells you when there's some vagueness in history, which I really appreciate, too, because he's not dogmatic. | ||
He doesn't have, like, one idea in his head of how things absolutely went down. | ||
And he's just so entertaining, man, because he has a background in talk radio. | ||
So he's just so good at being, like, a professional broadcaster. | ||
And then the guy's a maniac when it comes to history. | ||
So he does this. | ||
He did this series on World War I. I had no idea how fucking crazy World War I was. | ||
No idea how nuts it is. | ||
I've heard that one. | ||
Dude, they're all good. | ||
Did you know that Hitler was actually a soldier in World War I? Did we talk about that? | ||
And not only was he a soldier, but he was one of the most... | ||
He got like hardcore, Purple Heart type shit from Germany. | ||
He did the hardcore shit. | ||
Is that true? | ||
Hold on real quick. | ||
He's dropping knowledge on Dan Carlin. | ||
Where you at, Carlin? | ||
You might have read that from one of those sites. | ||
I mean, I've never heard that about Hitler. | ||
I've heard that. | ||
He's won serious awards. | ||
He was a war hero. | ||
That's why they got behind him, because he was so hardcore. | ||
Eddie's right on this, I feel like. | ||
What is his... | ||
What does it say here? | ||
Dude, he was doing... | ||
Look at all the stuff. | ||
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Iron Cross. | |
The worst job, the most dangerous job was sending messages to the front line from headquarters to the front line. | ||
That was the worst. | ||
He volunteered for that. | ||
He got hurt and he could have got discharged. | ||
He was all fucked up. | ||
He didn't want to get discharged. | ||
He wanted to go back on the front line. | ||
Super decorated, huh? | ||
Yeah, he's super crazy. | ||
Super crazy. | ||
That's interesting. | ||
Some would say gangster. | ||
He didn't bring that up at all. | ||
But that wasn't, you know, obviously if you're going to do a piece about World War I, Hitler doesn't play a big part unless you're going to continue with World War II and talk about his survival. | ||
It's a good transition. | ||
Yeah, I guess. | ||
For World War II. If he does a World War II one, yeah, for sure. | ||
I did not know that. | ||
That's interesting. | ||
That's interesting. | ||
There's a lot of shit about World War II that, fuck, man, that I didn't know. | ||
It's fascinating shit how World War II connects to JFK, how that all comes together. | ||
Fuck, it's gnarly shit. | ||
It's way better than fucking Game of Thrones. | ||
Way better, because it's real, because it actually really happened. | ||
To find out exactly, because what you get in high schools, you get... | ||
Basic Jack and Jill versions of what the fuck happened. | ||
You don't get down. | ||
Oh, this guy was shot and then the world went to war. | ||
Fernadan, whatever, and Hungary. | ||
There's so much crazy shit involved. | ||
It really is like some kind of miniseries. | ||
You want to get into World War II and JFK? A lot of movies on World War II. That's an eight-season miniseries. | ||
It's so complex. | ||
There's so many players. | ||
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Jeez. | |
Bro, if Callan was here right now, he would drop some knowledge on us about it that he remembers. | ||
Does he remember a lot about World War II? Is he a World War II buff? | ||
I don't think so. | ||
He loves history, though. | ||
So he'll drop it even if he doesn't know. | ||
That's what we do. | ||
Just drop things. | ||
There's a moment in history where you go back and look at it and things will never be the same. | ||
Now, Arthur Wright once wrote... | ||
It's the author and I don't know. | ||
It does not matter. | ||
Time had Adolf Hitler as man of the year one year. | ||
I did know that. | ||
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Did you know that? | |
Seems like a mistake. | ||
They also had Key and Peele. | ||
Isn't that the weirdest shit ever? | ||
Yes! | ||
Wait a minute, what? | ||
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Really? | |
He was man of the year for Time Magazine. | ||
Yeah, but that's not man of the year. | ||
Nah, still dope though. | ||
Before they turned, before everything went wrong. | ||
But at first, United States was totally into Adolf Hitler. | ||
They were into him. | ||
Eddie is dropping some serious world war 2 knowledge on your ass. | ||
Now, was Hitler or was Hitler not a vegetarian? | ||
I don't know. | ||
I'd go with no. | ||
I think that was a rumor, that Hitler was a vegetarian. | ||
He also did a shitload of drugs, correct? | ||
Might have been... | ||
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I think he was on meth, right? | |
I heard meth. | ||
You know, he was an architect in all the major buildings and all the... | ||
In Germany, he designed them. | ||
He was into designing not only the buildings, but you know those giant Nazi parades with all the giant crazy shit. | ||
He choreographed and designed all that shit. | ||
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There's a documentary called The Architect of Doom. | |
It's about Adolf Hitler. | ||
That's why he started hating the Jews, because he was trying to get into this art academy that was run by Jews, and they denied him. | ||
Bro, do a World War II podcast! | ||
There you go. | ||
Dude, I'm a white belt with that shit. | ||
Eddie in World War II. You guys just haven't even walked into the gym, that's all. | ||
I'm a white belt. | ||
It says that prior to 1937 he ate meat. | ||
And then after 37 on, towards the end of his life, he started becoming vegetarian. | ||
That's why he became evil. | ||
He got crazy. | ||
Apparently he had chronic flatulence. | ||
That's another thing I heard. | ||
He just farted nuts up. | ||
Dude, they tried to smear him, yes, and he sucked boys' dicks too. | ||
He always farted. | ||
Terrible, terrible man. | ||
Vegan farting on meth. | ||
Can you imagine that and bring that up? | ||
Yeah. | ||
How many leaders had fart problems? | ||
They probably, like, 80% of leaders probably had fart problems. | ||
They're drinking scotch all fucking night. | ||
Well, the meth thing is crazy because apparently, like, a lot of world leaders were on speed back then, right? | ||
Like, that was a big issue. | ||
Now, one of the things about Hillary Clinton that popped up was that she was on, I think it was Pro Vigil or New Vigil. | ||
Pro Vigil. | ||
Pro Vigil is like that stimulant that fighter pilots use to stay awake. | ||
It keeps you on point. | ||
It's illegal in the Olympics now because it's some sort of a performance enhancer. | ||
So she's supposedly on that show? | ||
Well, she's on that, right? | ||
It's supposed to be like the limitless pill. | ||
Who said that? | ||
How would they find that out? | ||
This is why I'm bringing this up. | ||
This lady was telling me that her friend's husband is on Adderall. | ||
She was going off about Adderall. | ||
She's like, my friend's husband's on Adderall. | ||
He takes it every day. | ||
It takes every day. | ||
It takes an Adderall. | ||
Like he says he needs it to keep up the pace of the day. | ||
Like that is meth. | ||
Yes. | ||
Like they've proven that it's like the same as meth. | ||
It's like you're taking a controlled dose of meth every day. | ||
How many people are out there just taking meth? | ||
You watch Breaking Bad? | ||
A lot. | ||
Yeah, but that's meth meth. | ||
How many people are out there taking Adderall? | ||
That's meth meth. | ||
Jamie, pull up how many people are on Adderall. | ||
Say, how many prescriptions of Adderall per year? | ||
That fighter pilot drug's called what? | ||
Let's take a guess real quick. | ||
Let's take a guess. | ||
On Adderall? | ||
Yeah, how many people are on Adderall? | ||
How many prescriptions? | ||
Because that's all you really know, how many prescriptions are written. | ||
I don't know what that means as far as people. | ||
But I think... | ||
10%? | ||
How many million? | ||
Give me a million. | ||
How many prescriptions? | ||
300 million. | ||
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Dude, I think there's 300 million people on the stage. | |
It's 3 million. | ||
3 million. | ||
3 million people on Adderall? | ||
Or 1.7. | ||
I'm going to go 6 million. | ||
6 million people on Adderall. | ||
There's way more than 6 million. | ||
Well, let's find out. | ||
Jamie, how many prescriptions in 2015 for Adderall? | ||
I'm looking right now. | ||
Dude, think about that. | ||
The prescription drugs, how legal they are, how destructive they are, how dangerous they are, and they're totally legal. | ||
And everyone just sits there and is like, oh, everything's fine. | ||
I just believe everything they fucking tell me. | ||
Did you see Arizona? | ||
That's the craziest shit ever! | ||
Right there! | ||
Do you see in Arizona they're trying to legalize weed and the number one funder to go against the legalization of weed is from the company that makes that fucking crazy pain drug that's many times stronger than OxyContin, Fentanyl or something like that. | ||
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The shit that they think killed Prince. | |
Fuck, man. | ||
The shit that killed Prince, that's something that Joey would say. | ||
But it is the shit that killed Prince. | ||
They said it was $500,000 this company donated in Arizona to try to stop this campaign to legalize weed. | ||
That should be a fucking felony. | ||
Anything that can be considered a crime on humanity, if you can prove that, that should be a fucking felony. | ||
You can't just do that shit. | ||
That's a crime. | ||
People are fucking dying and getting crazy off these prescription drugs, and no one says shit. | ||
Look at tobacco. | ||
Nobody says shit. | ||
Look at alcohol. | ||
No one says shit. | ||
Thank God. | ||
But, damn... | ||
And with that note, we've got to get out of here. | ||
I've got to do a spot at the store, so I've got to wrap this bitch up and bring it home. | ||
But fun times, boys. | ||
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Fun times. | |
As always. | ||
Finding the Kid Live, San Jose Thursday, and then Brea and Oxnard in October, son. | ||
Where's the schedule? | ||
TFATK.com. | ||
TFATK.com. | ||
Man, I really think you should come up with a better name. | ||
Look at that. | ||
16 mil, son. | ||
I'll be in 10th Planet, Decatur, Alabama this Saturday. | ||
10th Planet, Decatur, Alabama this Saturday. | ||
We found, Jamie found something, 16 million prescriptions. | ||
That was in 1999. In 99. Okay, it's way more. | ||
Way more now. | ||
Way more now. | ||
And that's fine. | ||
Three million, I have to laugh at that, gentlemen. | ||
But I was, how many people are using those 16 million prescriptions? | ||
Like, how many prescriptions? | ||
Like, how long does a prescription last? | ||
Do you get one every three months? | ||
You know, does that mean that a person gets four prescriptions a year, so you divide that by four? | ||
No, it's... | ||
Is that how it goes? | ||
I think you get it every 30 days. | ||
You don't do it every day either. | ||
It's every 30 days, right? | ||
You're not supposed to take it when you need them, I think, when you get prescribed. | ||
Hold on, son. | ||
Just stop the nonsense. | ||
If you're hooked on Adderall, you're taking that shit every day. | ||
Yeah, but the doctor's not giving them to you to use it every day. | ||
Sure they are. | ||
Yeah, no, I was on Adderall when I was in high school. | ||
Yeah, no, you get it for every day. | ||
It's like Ritalin. | ||
Yeah. | ||
I know a guy who has an Adderall patch. | ||
He had a patch. | ||
Adderall patch? | ||
No, it was a Ritalin patch. | ||
It was a Ritalin patch that they gave him. | ||
Prozac patch? | ||
He's on another level. | ||
No, it was a patch. | ||
It was a patch. | ||
They gave him a patch. | ||
It was some sort of either Prozac or Ritalin. | ||
But he was on Adderall as well. | ||
He tried a bunch of different things. | ||
But he was on Adderall. | ||
Was he cool? | ||
Every day. | ||
Very cool. | ||
Very cool. | ||
But he was struggling with fatigue issues. | ||
He's not a vibrant guy. | ||
Taking a lot of naps during the day? | ||
I don't know. | ||
I don't think he did. | ||
He hustles. | ||
He works. | ||
But I think he was having some problems. | ||
Successful dude. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Real successful dude. | ||
Good dad. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Great guy. | ||
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Sweet kisser. | |
He drives a Prius. | ||
No, he doesn't. | ||
It's a Tesla. | ||
But he was on it every day, Jamie. | ||
They do prescribe it for some people every day. | ||
Okay. | ||
I wasn't saying that they don't prescribe. | ||
I thought they didn't prescribe it every day. | ||
I think it's a refill every 30. No, I think there's a lot of people that take it every day. | ||
Yeah, that's why I'm saying a refill every 30. Because they're not going to give you fucking 120 pills. | ||
No, I think they do. | ||
I think they do, and I think if you take one a day, like, that's how they... | ||
I think they can do it. | ||
I don't think it's thought of as being, like, the danger that it is. | ||
Fucking idiots. | ||
Or at least most people, like you or I, they think it's going to help you, but kids are snorting that shit and taking classes. | ||
For reals. | ||
Like, for tests. | ||
I know people abuse it. | ||
I wasn't saying that. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Have you ever taken it? | ||
I take it? | ||
No, I've never taken it. | ||
I get nothing done. | ||
I will chat your fucking air off. | ||
Nothing done. | ||
Real chatty Cathy on that shit. | ||
I did it once in college. | ||
I mean, I got nothing done. | ||
That's hilarious. | ||
Someone coming in like, what are you doing? | ||
Hey, where are you going? | ||
Just fucking going off, man. | ||
Oh my god. | ||
Bad idea. | ||
Well, that's it. | ||
Joe Schilling, JoeSchilling187 on Twitter. | ||
Joe underscore Schilling on Instagram, correct? | ||
Yes, sir. | ||
Dude, I'm on the ball. | ||
Boom. | ||
I'm on the ball. | ||
He's on the ball. | ||
Brendan Schaub, don't call him Brandon. | ||
I'm sorry about that, by the way. | ||
I'm sorry about that. | ||
I know I fuck up, but... | ||
That's a hard one. | ||
We hope everybody in New York's okay, Brian Cowell's okay, and appreciate the fuck out of you people. | ||
Next one we can do with these. | ||
We'll do it. | ||
Is there one next week? | ||
Is there one next week? | ||
When's the cyborg fight? | ||
Is that the cyborg fight? | ||
Is cyborg wearing a bitch next week? | ||
We gotta do one for that. | ||
Who won the Canelo fight? | ||
Did we miss that? | ||
Spoiler alert! | ||
Canelo fight tonight? |