Sept. 3, 2016 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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| Absolutely not. | ||
| Never watched it. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Does anybody know it? | ||
| Just let me know. | ||
| We're live? | ||
| We're live. | ||
| We're actually live. | ||
| We're on the air right now. | ||
| Eddie Bravo is here. | ||
| Eddie Bravo. | ||
| Eddie Bravo. | ||
| Hello. | ||
| Brian motherfucking Colin. | ||
| Yes, I am. | ||
| And Brendan Schaub is perfect. | ||
| I fucked up. | ||
| I put too much stevia in the coffee, though. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| That stevia is strong. | ||
|
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You know what we could do? | |
| You just take this one. | ||
| And I trust your spit. | ||
| I hope you don't have herpes and just go back and forth with mine because there's none in there. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| And then we'll make a concoction. | ||
| Except for the both of us. | ||
| Split it up, bro. | ||
|
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Split it up. | |
| A concoction. | ||
| Just do it if you're a scientist. | ||
| You can snort stevia. | ||
| Yeah, and remember Diego Sanchez got really into that for a while? | ||
| What? | ||
| With Dan Quinn, right? | ||
| Yeah, Diego Sanchez got really into Dan Quinn's stevia thing, like he was going to melt fat with stevia and cure cancer and go to the moon. | ||
| Yeah, there's a guy out there, his name is Dan Quinn, who believes that stevia can change the world. | ||
| Tell me how that big brown stevia is. | ||
| Well, good for him. | ||
| What did he say that you could win? | ||
| Tastes like a chocolatey man kiss. | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| That's what I'm going for. | ||
| Tastes like a chocolatey man kiss. | ||
| If you're listening to this podcast, we're watching the fights live from Germany. | ||
| They play at noon in LA. So we all got out of our comfy beds and beautiful wives' arms and embraces and came here to watch dudes fight. | ||
| We're not going to be watching the fights. | ||
| If you want to know what happened, we don't know. | ||
| We'll be talking about subjects that belong in a 14-year-old's treehouse. | ||
| And that's essentially what we talk about. | ||
| And the other thing about muscles, the grips. | ||
| We might eventually get to some of these fights. | ||
| I want to talk about Aliyah Latifi and Ryan Bader when that fight happens. | ||
| Tough fight. | ||
| I don't like that fight for Bader. | ||
| That dude's scary as fuck. | ||
| Latife can bomb. | ||
| Yeah, he can throw some punches. | ||
| He's a tank. | ||
| Bader's been known to eat a couple. | ||
| It does nothing for Bader either. | ||
| Yeah, but Bader's fought well against certain guys that are like powerful, scary guys. | ||
| He just really fucked up against Rumble. | ||
| So you're looking at that. | ||
| He shit the bed against Rumble. | ||
| He just made a giant error. | ||
| I don't blame him either. | ||
| Yeah, you can't blame him. | ||
| You see what Rumble just did to Glover? | ||
| That low, like, weird... | ||
|
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He tried to ankle-pick and then Rumble just beat his brains in it. | |
| I think he just took a chance, you know, at something weird. | ||
| Like, hoping maybe it would work out. | ||
| Can't do that at that level. | ||
| I think he also maybe, like, had a moment, you know, in there. | ||
| Oh, shit moment. | ||
| That's Anthony Rumble Johnson. | ||
| Oh, Jesus. | ||
| Yeah, that's not James Toney. | ||
| Don't do the same game plan Randy Couture had against James Toney. | ||
|
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Exactly! | |
| That was exactly what he did. | ||
| Because Anthony Johnson went, huh? | ||
| Punched him right in the face. | ||
| Not only that, he controlled him on the ground until he punched him in the face and eventually got him flattened out on his stomach. | ||
| It might be the worst place in the world to be. | ||
| Flattened out on your stomach underneath Rumble Johnson. | ||
| It's terrible. | ||
| There is a... | ||
| Probably that is the worst place. | ||
| It's right next to that dude who got his arm trapped in the rock and had to saw it off. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And also, in a swamp full of crocodiles. | ||
| That's worse. | ||
| That guy. | ||
| Or standing right in front of him like Glover. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| Well, Glover just tried to put that pressure on him. | ||
|
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Hey, man! | |
| Dude, you can't walk forward. | ||
| Did you see an uppercut? | ||
| Do you remember that white supremacist where they had his brother in jail, and in protest, he videotaped himself sawing his own hand off? | ||
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What? | |
| For real? | ||
| Yep, he had a camera on and he goes, I want to show you guys something, essentially basically showing them that they had no control of him, that his mind was stronger than theirs. | ||
| And just cut his own hand off. | ||
| Would you guys do that for me? | ||
| Jamie, pull that up. | ||
| I need to see this. | ||
| My brother would do that for me, I feel like. | ||
| Let's talk off the air. | ||
| I wouldn't want him to. | ||
| This is Marcin Held and Taehyungbang. | ||
| Taehung Bang. | ||
| He is from Korea? | ||
| He's a Korean cowboy. | ||
| He's a Korean cowboy. | ||
| You said Marcin Held? | ||
| A lot of cowboys in Korea. | ||
| Oh, I'm sorry. | ||
| Nick Hine. | ||
| You got me all excited. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| Marcin Held just got signed. | ||
| I was actually going to bring that up. | ||
| He just got signed over from Bellator. | ||
| Very hesitant here, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| He's a really good footlock guy, huh? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Good leg locks. | ||
| One of them rare leg lockers in MMA. Yeah. | ||
| I don't know why. | ||
| I confuse all white people. | ||
| I think all white people look the same. | ||
| Me too, especially if they're athletes. | ||
| I'm super racist when it comes to white people. | ||
| To the whites. | ||
| To the whites. | ||
| White people from other countries where they talk weird. | ||
| All the same. | ||
| Yeah, that can never be racist. | ||
| White people look the same. | ||
| No one cares either. | ||
| But any other race, it's very trouble. | ||
| Any other race. | ||
| Even Mexicans. | ||
| A black person can say white people all look the same to me on TV and nobody gives a shit. | ||
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Not at all. | |
| Exactly. | ||
| You'd have to be really, really funny, and it'd have to be a really obvious joke for you to use any other race, especially if you were a white guy. | ||
| Sam Tripoli has that joke where he'll be like, I lost Bobby Lee at the Korean Day Parade. | ||
| You ever lose a Korean in a Korean Parade? | ||
| It's like looking for a needle in a needle stack. | ||
| Come on, that's funny. | ||
| It is funny and it is true, too. | ||
| Sir, I'm not going to say it's true, but I am saying it's funny. | ||
| There's certain races that share so many similarities as far as their mannerisms or their features and stuff. | ||
| I mean, there's so much variety in America, right? | ||
| Because we come from so many different parts of the world. | ||
| And if you thought of us as a country, which, you know, we are a country, but we're not a country like, say if you wanted to go and meet some Colombians. | ||
| You were in Colombia. | ||
| Most of them are going to look like Colombians. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| They have a very distinct look to them. | ||
| Especially the women. | ||
| Yeah, baby. | ||
| Well, China, China very much like China. | ||
| Some of the best. | ||
| I think in China, to have that many people speaking Mandarin, which had to do, I think, with the Yangtze and the Yellow River, because they could trade and, you know, share ideas... | ||
| And so, plus I think they were pretty isolated, so you're right. | ||
| There wasn't as much, you know, immigration in the United States. | ||
| I mean, everybody's fucking everybody. | ||
| Well, not only that, it's never been like this before, where there's 300 million people, and we vary so much, and we're more varied now than ever before. | ||
| Like they say, what is it like, I think they said 20 more years, and white people are going to be a minority? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's fascinating. | ||
| Because the Chinese, or you can say Asian, and Mexicans will be the minority in America, correct? | ||
| Well, China's film market is neck and neck with the United States now. | ||
| Well, they like Expendables 19. They love all that bullshit. | ||
| They're making their own movies, and they're building huge movie studios now. | ||
| They're also using our old, like, Sylvester Stallone's such a hit now over there. | ||
| Like, they just found them. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, well, it's just, it's interesting, man. | ||
| It's interesting that this world is sort of, it's in some places, it's not sort of meshing with everything else, but in most places, people are spreading out and sort of like integrating with each other. | ||
| I remember when I was little, my dad gets so, I was like four or five, and we'd see an Asian person, and I'd say, oh, look at that Chinese guy. | ||
| You know, something, I'd say something, he's like, he's not, he's Korean. | ||
| I'm fucking five, man. | ||
| That's what I do. | ||
| I can't tell the difference between the eyes, dad. | ||
| I do. | ||
| Your dad got mad at you at that when you were five? | ||
| Even today. | ||
| Even today. | ||
| He's from Korea. | ||
| Fuck, man. | ||
| Well, today, maybe it should make sense. | ||
| You should have learned it by now. | ||
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Maybe. | |
| It's tough. | ||
| I've never been over there. | ||
| I can tell the difference between a Korean and a Japanese person now. | ||
| My favorite thing to do is... | ||
| Pretty close, yeah. | ||
| I love drawing the distinction and alerting people to the fact that I know the difference. | ||
| And then I'll give you a little history lesson on it. | ||
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Yeah, you do. | |
| And then I walk away feeling good about myself. | ||
| Greg Fitzsimmons does this thing in his show where he guesses the Asian. | ||
| He calls it Guess the Asian. | ||
| He points at people. | ||
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God bless him. | |
| He's really good at it. | ||
| I bet. | ||
| If you can tell the difference... | ||
| He tells the difference between Filipinos and people from Bali. | ||
| I think that's easy. | ||
| There are huge differences, I think. | ||
| That's a skill, my man. | ||
| No. | ||
| It's like an X-Men power. | ||
| No. | ||
| If you're in America, it is. | ||
| You know what's weird is that America's only been around for, like, really a few hundred years from the first settlers, right? | ||
| First European settlers. | ||
| 1640 or something, yeah. | ||
| And then before that, just one look, right? | ||
| Like Native American. | ||
| And then in that time, the change of the landscape has been so drastic in just a short amount of time. | ||
| You think about any other time in the world, any other part of the world, someplace as big as the continental United States just gets transformed over a couple hundred years into just white people, just filling them up, filling it up! | ||
| I used to have that bit, remember? | ||
| There's a brown-skinned dude with dark curly hair throwing rocks and a brown-skinned dude with dark curly hair holding a machine gun. | ||
| I go, what's going on? | ||
| How do you guys look exactly like your enemy? | ||
| I go, this isn't like the Chinese versus the African. | ||
| I go, this is like a tennis match between the Williams sisters. | ||
| I'm like, who the fuck is who? | ||
| What's even crazier, what's even crazier, they believe in the same God. | ||
| They believe in the same God and basically the Quran says that everything in the Old Testament is true. | ||
| So even the Quran says that's the first book, then they had a problem with the New Testament, but it's kind of wild. | ||
| For sure figure it out by now. | ||
| It's just territory, territory. | ||
| Well, there's no way you're going to figure it out, because you want to make your parents happy, and they have a set of rules, and you grow up with them, and you start raising your kid that way. | ||
| And then all those ancient ideas about who those people that you don't know are versus these people next to you that you don't know. | ||
| Well, these people are on my side of the dirt, and those people are on that side of the dirt. | ||
| And we believe a certain type of wacky shit, and they believe a different type of wacky shit. | ||
| I mean, they have their problems over there, but we have problems here too. | ||
| Have you seen how the Kaepernick situation escalated? | ||
| Explain that to me. | ||
| So Kaepernick won't stand for the... | ||
| Explain who he is. | ||
| Colin Kaepernick is the starring quarterback for the San Francisco 49ers. | ||
| He's African American and mixed with something else, so he's lighter skinned, and he was adopted. | ||
| He was raised by white parents. | ||
| And so he was a big-time quarterback, playing like shit lately, but he was a big-time quarterback, refuses to stand for the National Anthem because says his people are oppressed and the cop treatment, stuff like that. | ||
| And then a picture came out that he wore them a while ago, these socks with cops as pigs on them. | ||
| He wore them to practice a while ago before he made this stance. | ||
| And so that photo's been brought back out. | ||
| So now the cops in Santa Clara are saying, we're not working the games anymore. | ||
| Unless you guys do something about Kaepernick, we're not working the games anymore. | ||
| So the cops are taking a protest now, which to me is like... | ||
| It's definitely not the right thing to do. | ||
| Because he has freedom of speech, right? | ||
| First Amendment, he can do that, whether you agree with it or not. | ||
| But the cops, now you guys are sinking to his level. | ||
| You can't make a decision to not do your job because you don't like a guy's opinion. | ||
| Cops at work games are off-duty police officers. | ||
| They're not on duty. | ||
| Oh, that's a good point. | ||
| So they're doing it for extra money. | ||
| Well, they're just doing it because they enjoy the game and they want to keep the fucking San Francisco 49ers safe. | ||
| Well, they're going to exercise their right, and then Colin's going to exercise his right. | ||
| Somewhere in the middle, something's got to happen. | ||
| It's a complete nightmare, though. | ||
| It's not good. | ||
| You know, it's not a good... | ||
| It's not a smart platform for all this. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| Because it's all going to get lost in the noise. | ||
| That's the problem. | ||
| If he has a real point... | ||
| If he has a real point about what he doesn't like about the way the United States is going, or the way our country is being led, that's not... | ||
| It gets a lot of people paying attention, but it's just going to get a lot of hate. | ||
| You're not changing anything by not standing for the anthem during the National Football League. | ||
| The cops are still going to be the cops, and the black people are still going to be oppressed. | ||
| You're really not changing much. | ||
| Well, he's starting the dialogue, he thinks, and when you're young, and you have a strong ego, and you feel like you're in a position of quote-unquote leadership, you feel like you can make a stand. | ||
| It's a little clumsy. | ||
| Maybe a little clumsy on his part. | ||
| But now you have other players starting to do the same thing. | ||
| Isn't that what he wanted, though? | ||
| Why would he say all that? | ||
| He wants this. | ||
| It's like, mission accomplished. | ||
| It's working. | ||
| Because everyone's talking about it. | ||
| I don't think he realized it was going to be like this, though. | ||
| Well, I think he kind of, but the big issue is he's just not playing very good football. | ||
| So now the Niners, if they release him, they're going to get so much flack. | ||
| Oh, that's fucking racist. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| He just can't throw a fucking football. | ||
| I bet they won't. | ||
| I bet they won't. | ||
| I bet the tougher thing will be him getting picked up by somebody else. | ||
| Like, what team wants to take on that PR nightmare? | ||
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True. | |
| You know, and you're gonna risk the ire of all the police unions that are working your games, you know, and all the people in your town. | ||
| They're gonna say, oh, was this what our team's all about? | ||
| We're about taking this guy in? | ||
| What if you went to a more African-American market, like Atlanta or Philadelphia? | ||
| I wonder if most African-Americans... | ||
| See, when you don't stand for the national anthem, which is the United States versus government or a government policy, those things can be separate. | ||
| I look at them as separate. | ||
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He says that though. | |
| He says that. | ||
| He says, so now instead of just sitting on the bench, he takes a knee because he goes, I'm not doing this against the soldiers. | ||
| I have friends. | ||
| My uncle was in the military. | ||
| So now he takes a knee and had a former Navy SEAL next to him and hugged him after. | ||
| He goes, I'm doing it because the way- You should have made out. | ||
| Yeah, that'd been dope. | ||
| He's just trying to make... | ||
| He's just gay as shit, too. | ||
| This is for gays as well. | ||
| Just over the top. | ||
| For everybody. | ||
| He's trying to bring attention to something he feels strongly about. | ||
| The question is, is it, like you said, the best venue and it's the most effective? | ||
| It's obviously working, though. | ||
| We're talking about it. | ||
| He didn't want to be quiet about it, obviously. | ||
| He wanted to be loud about it, and this is loud as fuck. | ||
| He even grew a powerful afro. | ||
| I think he loves it. | ||
| Powerful afro. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| It's tough when he's not playing well. | ||
| Yeah, that's the thing. | ||
| You've got to be playing real well to have a fucked up opinion. | ||
| Yeah, like if Tom Brady did it, we're like, oh, cool, man, yeah, do your thing. | ||
| With him, it's like, fuck! | ||
| He's not even the starter, probably, and he's going to be paid $19 million this year, so that might have a little bit to do with him getting cut, too. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| His contract and his on-field play is the bigger issue if you're calling. | ||
| That's a tremendous amount of money. | ||
| That's a lot of money. | ||
| He signed a $114 million contract two years ago. | ||
| Brendan, at a $19 million after agents and taxes, what do you think he sees? | ||
| I mean, 19 million, that's his guaranteed signing bonus, right? | ||
| So agents take 10% in the taxes. | ||
| I mean, he sees a shitload of money. | ||
| He sees about 10 mil of that. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| Because you've got to figure out, he's probably in a 48% tax bracket. | ||
| He's probably as a manager, an agent, and a lawyer. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And there's a lot of shit that gets distributed. | ||
| But don't get it twisted. | ||
| This is just part of the contract. | ||
| He's rich as fuck. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because this is his third contract or second, Jamie? | ||
| His second. | ||
| So before that, he was already making money. | ||
| Was he better before? | ||
| Was he a better player before? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| He took him to the conference finals and the playoffs. | ||
| So when did it start going bad for him? | ||
| From my insiders, who actually, some of them worked for the San Francisco 49ers, they were saying it really went bad for him because he was a really athletic quarterback and no one could really pick up his style of play. | ||
| And once they figured it out, he was a guy who was on social media all the time and the negativity got to him. | ||
| So he's a sensitive dude and just all the critiquing from the media and everyone else really got to him. | ||
| So he's lost weight, he's changed his throwing motion, he doesn't run anymore, he's black power now. | ||
| Social media fucked with him? | ||
| They're saying just this wave. | ||
| He let all the criticism get to him. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Whoa! | ||
| The haters right now are going, what? | ||
| The trolls are like, yeah! | ||
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We got him a hook! | |
| We got him! | ||
| He still has 19 million dollars, people. | ||
| Yeah, but if he's losing weight and feeling nervous, they win. | ||
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100%. | |
| Losing weight. | ||
| How old is he? | ||
| How old is he? | ||
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He might be 26. Damn, that's a lot of money. | |
| How old is he, Jamie? | ||
| 26? | ||
| That is so much money. | ||
| First of all, asking a 26-year-old to take a stance about global issues while they're in the middle of a professional athletic career at the highest level, which demands you know as much as anybody. | ||
| If you're playing professional football, tell us how much fucking that demands of your day. | ||
| Especially as a quarterback. | ||
| How much does that demand of your day? | ||
| Oh man, in season, I mean... | ||
| I mean, you're talking full-time. | ||
| I mean, nine to five doesn't count. | ||
| You're talking about endless hours of studying, practice. | ||
| You're the leader of the team. | ||
| Strength and conditioning. | ||
| No, just conditioning. | ||
| Plios. | ||
| Video. | ||
| Really, they're in the film room more than anyone. | ||
| Break down tape. | ||
| And how tired are you all the time after practice? | ||
| I mean, you're exhausted. | ||
| Especially a guy like that who, he relies on his athleticism to get the plays done. | ||
| The NFL doesn't work like that. | ||
| You have to use your brain. | ||
| Look at the best quarterbacks in the league. | ||
| How many plays per team would you say? | ||
| Because they have a book, right? | ||
| I mean, you're talking thousands. | ||
| Thousands of players that they have to know. | ||
| And he has to know the whole inside and out. | ||
| So that dude doesn't have time to be studying global issues? | ||
| No, that's why he's playing like shit. | ||
| It'd be way more powerful if he played well, was a starter, started winning games, and then came out and did this maybe after the season. | ||
| Dude, there's no 26-year-old that's built to handle the kind of pressure that comes being that famous and a big football player. | ||
| And then on top of that, supporting some sort of a global issue, like some sort of a national issue on the United States, like the state of the United States. | ||
| Are you going to make an official statement? | ||
| I can't imagine. | ||
| It's putting a lot on your plate. | ||
| I shouldn't be making an official statement today, and I'm almost 50. I'm like, not ready yet. | ||
| I can't imagine what he's dealing with. | ||
| I'm sure he has support from a lot of people, but a lot of it's negative. | ||
| Then you've got to get ready for a football game. | ||
| It's make or break. | ||
| If you're playing poorly, it's going to get negative real quick from all sides, right? | ||
| No, I don't think from all sides. | ||
| I think African-American people are pretty proud of him in a certain aspect. | ||
| Well, some people are proud of him, too, that feel like things aren't the way they should be in this country, and at least this guy used that platform and took a chance. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| But I think you're dead right in that the real problem is you've got to be playing really fucking good to pull something like that off. | ||
| Like, people don't want to just listen to you if you're ruining play. | ||
| And there's going to be so much pressure on him every time he does play. | ||
| People are going to be psyched if he gets nailed. | ||
| What's the pressure? | ||
| I mean, he watches a couple YouTube videos, and there's not something that he's got to study. | ||
| He wears socks. | ||
| So what? | ||
| What is he doing? | ||
| No, you mean tweet? | ||
| And then what? | ||
| He has the entire San Francisco 49ers organization on his back to win games. | ||
| And if he doesn't perform, he's going to lose his job. | ||
| Poor him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, it's a tough gig. | ||
| It's a tough gig, man. | ||
| You don't feel bad about him, Eddie? | ||
| No. | ||
| But he's got money. | ||
| Because he's black? | ||
| Fucker's rich as shit, super famous, and he wants this attention. | ||
| Why else would he wear those socks? | ||
| If Tom Brady wore those socks, the whole arena would be yelling, fuck the police, right? | ||
| For sure, yeah. | ||
| Tom Brady's white, though. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Would they, though? | ||
| I think they would turn on him. | ||
| I think they'd turn on Tom Brady. | ||
| There's no turning on Tom Brady. | ||
| That's bullshit. | ||
| He can't do anything wrong. | ||
| They would turn on him. | ||
| He can't do anything wrong. | ||
| Incorrect. | ||
| New England wouldn't. | ||
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Incorrect. | |
| He could murder someone, and they'd be like, yeah, what can you do with Tom Brady? | ||
| Gangster. | ||
| Tell us the whole story. | ||
| He did murder four people. | ||
| Well, the guy probably lipped off... | ||
| Even with Ern Hernandez, the guy who's a straight-up murderer, they were like, I mean, if he gets out, we'll take him. | ||
| He's such a good player. | ||
| New England was like, I mean, we wouldn't be mad if he gets... | ||
| He's such a good player. | ||
| They just want to win fucking football games in New England. | ||
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God. | |
| That's how good of a player it is. | ||
| Throw to the murderer. | ||
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You know what? | |
| The Patriots might sue you for saying that. | ||
| They'd probably agree with you. | ||
| No, they're like, yeah, that's how it goes. | ||
| Trying to win games here. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| Neil Brennan has a fucking hilarious bit about football that I can't do it without doing it. | ||
| You know, I can't give you the premise of it, but he's talking about why football players do fucked up shit in real life. | ||
| It is hilarious. | ||
| Dude, he's my favorite guest on your podcast. | ||
| Is he really? | ||
| By far. | ||
| I think he's the most creative fucking... | ||
| I've never met him in person, but dude, he's a great guy. | ||
| That guy's brilliant. | ||
| Very, very smart. | ||
| He's so creative. | ||
| Get him on the Fighter of the Kid. | ||
| Yeah, we will. | ||
| You guys will love him. | ||
| He's awesome. | ||
| God, he's talented. | ||
| I've been meaning to do that anyway. | ||
| So talented. | ||
| The football bit he did last night, I was crying. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Crying. | ||
| I can't do it because it'll give away the bit, but it's very, very funny. | ||
| Dude, I finally watched The Roast with Jim Ross with Big Boy. | ||
| What's his name? | ||
| The big fat guy. | ||
| Ralphie Mae. | ||
| Ralphie Mae. | ||
| Where his feelings got hurt? | ||
| I heard it was bad. | ||
| Dude. | ||
| I can't watch. | ||
| Dude. | ||
| I don't want to watch. | ||
| What happened? | ||
| I mean, it's a roast battle. | ||
| Ralphie's going through a divorce, and these people just fucking... | ||
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The fucking hammer in the coffin. | |
| The guy goes, well... | ||
| You've lost... | ||
| It's so fucked up. | ||
| You've lost your wife, your career. | ||
| You can't sell tickets. | ||
| You've lost everything. | ||
| The only thing you haven't lost is weight, motherfucker. | ||
| And it was like... | ||
| I don't like that stuff. | ||
| It's a roast. | ||
| Well, don't fucking watch. | ||
| It's a roast, though. | ||
| Yeah, don't get involved. | ||
| Don't get involved. | ||
| They were roasting Ralphie Mae. | ||
| It was a Ralphie Mae roast. | ||
| No, it's like one-on-one roast. | ||
| Roast battle. | ||
| Roast battle and roast each other. | ||
| You ever see roast battle? | ||
| It's a hilarious show. | ||
| Yeah, they have it at the Comedy Store. | ||
| You gotta come, man. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| They do it at the Comedy Store on Tuesday nights, and they do it late at night. | ||
| And I think it starts at midnight, right? | ||
| I'm not sure. | ||
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Isn't it? | |
| But your boy Tony Hinchcraft tore it up, too. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's just some of the funniest, young, up-and-coming kids. | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| And adults, I should say, some of them are, like, for whatever reason, deep in their 30s. | ||
| There's some old-ass people in there, too. | ||
| Yeah, some 50-year-old people that are on Rose Battle. | ||
| They have great judges, too. | ||
| Yeah, and they have comics judge it, and then they'll do, like, one, you know, one joke, and the other person will do a joke against them, and they go back and forth, and then the audience decides who got who better. | ||
| It's so creative. | ||
| And like, Tony Hinchcliffe, I guess he does a podcast at the Comedy Store on Monday nights or something like that, whatever it is. | ||
| And he texts me and goes... | ||
| It's called Kill Tony. | ||
| Kill Tony, yeah, yeah. | ||
| He texts me and goes, hey man, when do you come by and do the podcast? | ||
| And I went, oh, no, do the show. | ||
| And I went, I'm down to do like a podcast, but I'm not letting you just roast the shit out of me. | ||
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It's too easy. | |
| I don't know how to come back. | ||
| I'm not good at roasting other people. | ||
| I'm not good at those comebacks. | ||
| Also, you want everybody to love you. | ||
| You don't want to be mean to people. | ||
| I also don't want to hurt anybody's feelings. | ||
| It ain't for you, B. It ain't for you. | ||
| Tony would eat you alive. | ||
| I can't hurt people. | ||
| Even if I had a good put down, I couldn't. | ||
| Tony would eat you. | ||
| I don't like hurting people's feelings like a cannibal. | ||
| Brian Moses, the guy who hosts it, is perfect. | ||
| He's a hilarious guy. | ||
| I like Brian, yeah. | ||
| It's a great show. | ||
| You know what's tough on that? | ||
| Because obviously they're going based off each other, volleying back and forth on jokes and roasting each other. | ||
| But when someone has a horrible, just a great roast, and the other one's not ready, when a roast is bad, it's bad. | ||
| Like Ralphie Mae was like, that's why your eyes are close together, and the crowd's like... | ||
| It's just dead silent. | ||
| I'm like, oh, God. | ||
|
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Fuck. | |
| I heard about it and I couldn't watch it. | ||
|
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It's on the spot. | |
| Yeah, I don't want to see somebody get knocked out like that. | ||
| I don't like that shit. | ||
| Is this on Comedy Central? | ||
| I'm sure it's on YouTube. | ||
| But Whoopi Goldberg was a coach, or she was a judge? | ||
| Man, it was tough. | ||
| What was tough? | ||
| Whoopi Goldberg being the judge? | ||
| Just her commentary and everything. | ||
| She's just out of the loop, you know what I'm saying? | ||
| Yeah, she's out of the fucking loop. | ||
| That's like someone with your grandma on the mic. | ||
| Yeah, that's 100% what she was doing. | ||
| It's funny how people can ride something great for a long time. | ||
| Like her first HBO special was pretty... | ||
| Was it really great? | ||
| Yeah, it was really good. | ||
| I thought it was really, really good. | ||
| Theatrically, it was excellent. | ||
| This motherfucker's in an audition again. | ||
| He's in the room right now with the producers. | ||
| Brian's trying to get on to some wine last night in Santa Monica with some good friends. | ||
| You cannot take away from her. | ||
| Brian's trying to get on The View right now? | ||
| The two things she did to get herself known on HBO, they were pretty amazing. | ||
| Whoopi Goldberg? | ||
| Yeah, you can't take that away from her. | ||
| But I will say that she did Ghost, but you can ride that shit for a long time. | ||
| I'm blacking out right now. | ||
| There's no air in this room. | ||
| It just sucked it all out. | ||
| Hey, 20 years ago. | ||
| It was 20 years ago. | ||
| Well, she's not like in the comedy scene. | ||
| She does the view. | ||
| She does the view. | ||
| She's got a look that's very distinctive, and she seems like a very friendly person, and America took her in a long time ago, and she's sort of been in this steady, coasting state ever since then. | ||
| So when she goes and does something that demands pop, like these things, or when she expresses herself on The View, when she's got an opinion, it's not very succinct. | ||
| It's not clear and sharp and well-defined. | ||
| There's a lot of laziness to it. | ||
| I'm sure she's just a really wealthy woman who is set. | ||
| For life. | ||
| She doesn't have to worry about shit. | ||
| She dresses that way too. | ||
| And when she's up there, she's like casual and she's being herself. | ||
| Casual as fuck. | ||
| She has Crocs on and shit. | ||
| In some ways, it's like what you're getting is when you get a person that's like at that level. | ||
| She's an Oscar winner. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| She's over it. | ||
| She's like, what's up? | ||
| I won't be Goldberg. | ||
| I don't have to do shit anymore. | ||
| She even brought that up on the show. | ||
| She said, I have Oscars. | ||
| That's what she said on the show. | ||
| That was her roast, yeah. | ||
| When someone came at her, when her and Jeselnik were going at it, and she was like, who are you? | ||
| I have Oscars. | ||
| That's her thing. | ||
| She's like, I have Oscars, honey. | ||
| That's not funny. | ||
| You know what happens? | ||
| Sometimes success can stop a lot of things. | ||
| Bob Dylan was, and he's produced a lot and been amazing, but they were going through the lyrics that he was writing and stuff when he was younger that made him a legend. | ||
| He literally went, isn't that something? | ||
| And they go, what do you mean? | ||
| He goes, I just don't... | ||
| That was a different person back then who wrote that stuff. | ||
| Like, I could never do that again. | ||
| I could never replicate that again. | ||
| That magic that made me what I am is gone. | ||
| So much of it was wanting to be heard so badly. | ||
| So much of it was, can I even do this? | ||
| The wonder and the mystery of, who am I? And let me see if this effort can bear fruit. | ||
| And when you get really wealthy and you get really famous and you become a legend, it's very difficult to replicate that kind of stuff. | ||
| Like, Ellen Generous, for me, when she was younger and doing stand-up, personally, I loved her stand-up when she was younger. | ||
| And then I was thinking to myself, you had this great stand-up career, and then you became a talk show host. | ||
| You make a fortune. | ||
| She's really good at that, though. | ||
| But I just could never do that. | ||
| That would be so boring to me, in comparison. | ||
| You know the best interview with her? | ||
| Her and Caitlyn Jenner. | ||
| Caitlyn Jenner was talking about how she doesn't believe in gay marriage, because I'm more of a traditionalist. | ||
| So she's sitting there with her frozen face. | ||
| Why have I always been traditional? | ||
| And you're like, what in the fuck are you talking about? | ||
| Your face is Botox, you cut, and your jaws, half your jaw is missing. | ||
| You're wearing lipstick. | ||
| That's her up there on the screen. | ||
| All this craziness, and she's saying that she's not into gay marriage, or she wasn't into gay marriage, she's trying to change my opinion now, but because she's more of a traditionalist. | ||
| Like, you are a man that thinks they're a woman. | ||
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There's nothing further from a traditionalist. | |
| That's the Hollywood insanity. | ||
| But Ellen wrote her on it. | ||
| She's like, how can someone like you, who's faced so much discrimination, how could you be against gay marriage? | ||
| And this is my take on this Caitlyn Jenner thing that everybody's always been missing. | ||
| You're talking about a nonsense person. | ||
| You're talking about a male Kardashian. | ||
| This is what this is. | ||
| We're having this national debate, which is an important national debate, because there's a spectrum of gender, and there's some people that get stuck in some weird spots, and to be mean about those people, because they're not a manly man like Brendan Schaub, or a girly girl, like Katy Perry. | ||
| There's a lot of women and men that fall in these weird places. | ||
| But this is the wrong one to pay attention to! | ||
| This is crazy. | ||
| I agree 100%. | ||
| This is, I mean, it's not a bad person, you know? | ||
| They're not a horrible person. | ||
| She's Kardashian. | ||
| Yeah, but this is what we've been dealing with when we're talking about, like... | ||
| Putting focus on people for no reason whatsoever other than the fact that there's a camera on them. | ||
| People also get bullied into being super supportive and completely a fanatic on that side. | ||
| Instead of having an objective, fair, critical point of view, like it's weird or like, I don't know, she's not that impressive. | ||
| What she did in 1976 was pretty impressive and whenever, but... | ||
| Dude, it's social media, man. | ||
| Social media, the pressure and the amount of human beings that you're communicating with, it's off the charts. | ||
| The numbers are crazy. | ||
| The numbers that you're interacting with on a daily basis, if you have any sort of a point whatsoever, like this football player dude. | ||
| If he has any sort of a point that he wants to make, dude, you're dealing with... | ||
| Literally millions of people throwing their opinions your way and it's a storm and you can't you can't like go outside in the rain and pick the Raindrop that you're gonna communicate with. | ||
| No you can't. | ||
| That's essentially what he's doing when it's opinions. | ||
| Opinions are coming at him like rain. | ||
| Well, but also look at homegirl. | ||
| Who's the comedian from Ghostbusters the black girl? | ||
| Leslie Jones. | ||
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Her shit got so bad people are She exacerbated that. | |
| You think? | ||
| She exacerbated by about poorly... | ||
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They leaked naked photos, too. | |
| No, no, no. | ||
| That was afterwards. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
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Before that. | |
| But they went ham on it. | ||
| I don't know if it's the same people. | ||
| I mean, obviously, somebody leaked her naked photos. | ||
| But they'll leak your naked photos, too, if you leave them on iCloud, stupid. | ||
| Yeah, for sure. | ||
| Everyone's naked photos. | ||
| You leave your dick on iCloud, that shit's going online. | ||
| All my dick pics, I'm pretty proud of. | ||
| But she interacted with some of those people. | ||
| That's what you can't do. | ||
| It was poorly thought out. | ||
| I feel like she's new to it, too, though, right? | ||
| Yeah, she is new to it. | ||
| Dude, it's a motherfucker out there. | ||
| Sideways rain, baby. | ||
| There's a fucking hurricane out your door. | ||
| Go out there and find a raindrop. | ||
| But I feel like successful people don't pay attention to most of that bullshit. | ||
| Some people do. | ||
| Tyron Woodley, apparently, has been paying attention to it. | ||
| I've been reading all this shit about Tyron, reading all these haters' tweets. | ||
| Why would he do that? | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| Maybe someone needs to talk to him. | ||
| Maybe he doesn't mind. | ||
| Maybe he's using it as a psychological exercise, but he's talking about all these people that are being racist to him and talking shit to him. | ||
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No, let me get dark, man. | |
| He needs to focus on Wonderboy. | ||
| Not only that, when you find out, when they find out that you're paying attention and it freaks you out, like this Kaepernick guy who's losing weight and you fucking can't throw right anymore. | ||
| There's too many of them, man. | ||
| There's too many people. | ||
| Especially in negative. | ||
| If they can't affect the celebrity in that fashion, they're gonna fucking try, man. | ||
| It's natural. | ||
| It's as natural as a virus. | ||
| Being a negative? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| There's a certain amount of people that they got a fucking shithand in life. | ||
| And they are who they are through a series of bad decisions and life circumstances and genetics and all the above. | ||
| And they see a guy like Kaepernick that's making... | ||
| 50 million bucks over the next couple of years, and I fuck him! | ||
| Good-looking dude, too. | ||
| Has a bit of a nose, but good-looking dude. | ||
| And they come home every day, and they run to that computer from their McDonald's job with fucking fry smell all over their body, their hands, and they just start All kinds of rude shit about him. | ||
| Although the article we read in Time Magazine had a front page article, and according to that author and his research, a lot of that hate comes from, oh, I don't know, kindergarten teachers, doctors, lawyers, and people, your next door neighbor you would never imagine, but they just have a mean streak. | ||
| And they just want to be mean. | ||
| They said it could come from anyone. | ||
| Just don't assume the guy's in the basement of his mom's house jacking off. | ||
| It can literally come from anyone, especially Kaepernick, who's a San Francisco 49er. | ||
| You might be a Seattle fan. | ||
| You're like, yeah, I'm going to hate it. | ||
| I might as well. | ||
| I'm a doctor in Seattle. | ||
| Fuck this, dude. | ||
| It gives you a free pass if you're from another state. | ||
| There's also something about some people, when nobody's looking to do something outrageous, forbidden, that would be totally out of character, it's freeing, right? | ||
| So they just want to do, like, it's almost like when you go, when you're in a really, in an airplane, you have to be quiet and stuff, and you go to the bathroom, and you're about to pee, and you look in the mirror, and you go, and you just do some weird face, because it's a release. | ||
| Yeah, that's you, you fucking weirdo. | ||
| That's some weird shit. | ||
| Maybe, guys. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But no, you're definitely right. | ||
| I think people that are buttoned down all day, like doctors and lawyers and people that have to put on a persona all day long, those are the ones who want to hire mistresses and get them to shit on them and smack them in the face and do wacky stuff. | ||
| They've done a lot of studies on cultures that produce a lot of shit videos and these really perverse videos. | ||
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That's right. | |
| I'm talking about the Japanese. | ||
| Well, I'm talking about the Japanese and the Germans who tend to be very disciplined, very authoritarian, and very buttoned down and formal. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, listen, man, when you've got to do that all the time... | ||
| It's called Pukaki. | ||
| I can't watch them. | ||
| I'll throw up. | ||
| You want some extreme... | ||
| Human beings will... | ||
| They just want to be... | ||
| It was like they were talking about why would the Germans, at one point, who were the quote-unquote most civilized society in the world, they read Goethe and everything else, and they had... | ||
| And what happened? | ||
| It culminated with concentration camps and feeding people to gas chambers and ovens. | ||
| Huh? | ||
| What? | ||
| What the fuck? | ||
| Meanwhile, Alir Latife is stepping towards a cage. | ||
| Just a video of him online, really recently, where he deadlifts, what was it, like 450 pounds 33 times? | ||
| That's impressive. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Brennan Schaub might not be able to do that. | ||
| Something ridiculous like that. | ||
| I can't do that. | ||
| But he does 33 deadlifts with it. | ||
| He's built for it. | ||
| He's a little spark plug. | ||
| Check this motherfucker out. | ||
| What is the weight? | ||
| What does it say there? | ||
| 440 33 times. | ||
| Okay, 440 pounds, he does it 33 fucking reps. | ||
| Mr. Schaub's doing $5.50 for $10 and doing $10 sets of that. | ||
| I could probably get close. | ||
| To this? | ||
| I'd blow my asshole out. | ||
| I bet you could. | ||
| Is a big fucking dude. | ||
| Oh, he's not doing continuous. | ||
| Oh, Brandon will do that. | ||
| He's doing them and then dropping them and then letting them go. | ||
| Brandon Schaub will do that. | ||
| No, let me ask you this. | ||
| Is that the way to go with deadlifts? | ||
| Do you just let it go when you don't lower it down? | ||
| Why wouldn't you lower it down? | ||
| Yeah, I lower it down, especially if I'm doing continuous reps. | ||
| That's a little weird. | ||
| I guess maybe saving energy, but you're restarting every time, so it's more work, I feel like. | ||
| Well, maybe that's why they're doing it. | ||
| It's a lot more work. | ||
| This is something thought up. | ||
| I thought he was going boosh. | ||
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Boosh! | |
| No. | ||
| He's letting it drop. | ||
| It's still impressive. | ||
| It's not as hard. | ||
| He's doing 33 reps, dude. | ||
| But B was doing, Brennan was doing 550, 10 reps. | ||
| Don't call him B. Don't call him B. He was doing 10 reps, sorry. | ||
| He was doing 10 reps and he did 10 sets of that. | ||
| And you were doing that. | ||
| You were lifting 550 like you were getting out of a chair. | ||
| That was ridiculous. | ||
| For what? | ||
| Because I fucking tell dick jokes and drink coffee. | ||
| You're strong. | ||
| Because you want to look good. | ||
| You're very strong. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| Yeah, you want to look like a stud. | ||
| When you're right, you're very strong, man. | ||
| If you've got a big-ass gorilla body and you weren't lifting weights, it would be rude. | ||
| Like, you've got this big-ass body and you let it get all doughy and soft and get a little pot that hangs over your belt buckle. | ||
| Could be funny, though. | ||
| No. | ||
| No, that's not funny. | ||
| People would be upset. | ||
| This motherfucker got the perfect frame and he's wasting it, eating Cheetos. | ||
| You know? | ||
| I mean, if you have one of those bodies, you're supposed to fucking maintain that bitch. | ||
| Like, if you have a Ferrari, and you're putting paint, like, on it. | ||
| I want to paint my smiley faces on it. | ||
| Like an asshole. | ||
| Yeah, put bumper stickers. | ||
| Free Tibet on a Ferrari. | ||
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Free Tibet. | |
| Fuck you. | ||
| Don't ever do that. | ||
| That's really funny. | ||
| You're ruining the shape of this beautiful thing. | ||
| Ryan Bader, stepping in. | ||
| Now, how does one, you know, like, recover from that, um... | ||
| That Rumble-Johnson fight, like he's moving into the top ten, he's in the top ten. | ||
| Oh, top five? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| He won five in a row? | ||
| He's on his way towards the title shot, and then he fights someone like Rumble, and he gets so annihilated that it leaves this, like, okay, how much improvement would he have to make before he could beat Rumble? | ||
| Well, but that Rumble fight, I don't think, if I'm Ryan Bader, I'm his camp, you can't really chalk it up as, ah, he was the better fighter. | ||
| I think Bader shit his pants in a huge situation. | ||
| It didn't go his way. | ||
| Back to the drawing board. | ||
| You get past this one, then he's probably going to get Gustafson next, if they both win, is what I would assume. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| Could be. | ||
| Because, you know... | ||
| OSP's still in the mix, too. | ||
| He already beat OSP. Yeah, he did, but OSP, I'm sure, would like a rematch. | ||
| Yeah, it'd be tough. | ||
| It'd be tough. | ||
| He's only 33. It's amazing when you think Ryan Bader won the Ultimate Fighter way back in the day. | ||
| Forever ago. | ||
| So long ago, man. | ||
| Then he has those wrestling days. | ||
| Bader's 6'2"? | ||
| I didn't know he was that tall. | ||
| He's a big boy. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| He's fairly narrow. | ||
| Latife's different. | ||
| How tall is Latife? | ||
| Is he 5'10"? | ||
| 5'10"? | ||
| Where's he from? | ||
| Sparkplug. | ||
| Where's he from? | ||
| I think Latife is Albanian. | ||
| See if that's true. | ||
| But he was Swedish, right? | ||
| He grew up in Sweden. | ||
| I'm going to say Afghani. | ||
| I'm pretty sure Rose from the comic store said that's her Albanian brother. | ||
| Huh. | ||
| Goddamn, he's jacked. | ||
| Find out if he's originally from Albania. | ||
| Both these guys are bodied up. | ||
| She's right. | ||
| This guy's a tank, though, man. | ||
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He can hit, too. | |
| Look at the size of him. | ||
| If you look at his fucking head, he's a tank. | ||
| If I'm beta, I wear his ass out and look to knock him out in the late second or third. | ||
| Yeah, he's super explosive. | ||
| It says he was born in Sweden. | ||
| It says all Sweden. | ||
| Yeah, but he's not Swedish. | ||
| Doesn't say anything Albanian. | ||
| He must Might go to the Wikipedia, buddy. | ||
| He was born and raised in Sweden. | ||
| Background. | ||
| Because they don't make him look like that in Sweden. | ||
| Does it say ethnicity? | ||
| Is it Albania? | ||
| Yeah, Albania. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| Swedish people all look the same. | ||
| Yeah, they do. | ||
| Fucking whiteys. | ||
| Goddamn whitey. | ||
| I'll tell you what, though. | ||
| Mousasi ate the fucking shit out of... | ||
| Latifi's whole world. | ||
| Just jab the fuck out of him. | ||
| Latifi took that fight on super short notice because somebody else got injured. | ||
| It was a last-minute fight. | ||
| It was Latifi's first fight in the UFC. Latifi doesn't have a good... | ||
| Latifi doesn't have a good... | ||
| He doesn't have a big win. | ||
| This would be his biggest win by far in the UFC. He doesn't really beat anyone that good so far. | ||
| No, this would be his biggest opponent for sure, but... | ||
| He's a spooky dude. | ||
| Oh, I hate this fight for Bader. | ||
| Especially coming off a loss for Anthony Johnson in fucking Germany. | ||
| Well, Latife's a world-class wrestler, too. | ||
| That's the other scary thing about it. | ||
| So Bader is most likely going to be out-wrestled by him. | ||
| Like, if they just go wrestling to wrestling. | ||
| And Latife can starch you with one shot. | ||
| Like, he clipped him right there. | ||
| He just clipped him with a left hook. | ||
| Remember, Bader has power, too, though. | ||
| He does. | ||
| Remember, he had Glover on the ropes and then ate a fucking hook from Mars. | ||
| Well, he won the Ultimate Fighter by bombing on Vinny Magalese. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Remember that? | ||
| And he wrestled in college. | ||
| Him and Kane were on the same team. | ||
| But he's fighting a guy with a lot to gain and some serious power and a guy who doesn't have a lot of miles on him. | ||
| That was a good right hand there by Vader. | ||
| Latifi has a lot of miles on him because of the world wrestling shit. | ||
| You know what I'm saying, Joe? | ||
| Wrestling training, you mean? | ||
| Yeah, all that wrestling. | ||
| I mean, granted, Bader grew up wrestling too, but a little different on the world level. | ||
| Latife is really reaching. | ||
| He's trying to close the distance with these frantic sprints, and Bader is really elegantly sliding out of the way. | ||
| That doesn't look good for Latife. | ||
| Ooh, nice. | ||
| Bader's beat Phil Davis, Rashad Evans, OSP. He's beat some fucking guys, man. | ||
| He's been in there with way better competition. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| No question. | ||
| And here's the thing about Latife. | ||
| He's got this big power, but if you look at his technical approach, like how he's trying to approach Ryan, he's trying to step and then bomb. | ||
| And if it works, look, if he catches you with one of those things, you're fucksville. | ||
| But a guy at Ryan's level, he shouldn't really be getting caught with that stuff. | ||
| So he switched up to wrestling and Ryan stuffed a takedown. | ||
| So now Aaliyah is definitely losing this round so far, and he's losing it in terms of strategy, his ability to execute. | ||
| Is that how he switches to Southpaw? | ||
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Oh! | |
| Kick to the body by Bader. | ||
| 3.06, 3.02, 3.01, three minutes into the first round. | ||
| So if you want to sync it up with us. | ||
| Yeah, Latifi does not look good right here. | ||
| He keeps getting clipped with the kick, and look how easy Bader blocked that punch, because it's obvious, you know, it's that looping right that comes. | ||
| Latifi even got double unders, couldn't take Bader down. | ||
| I mean, people underestimate Bader's wrestling. | ||
| They forget about it, because he really doesn't use it that much. | ||
| It's interesting how, like, there's certain things that you just absolutely predict, right? | ||
| Like, if a guy catches your leg, if you throw a right kick, and the guy catches your leg, he's gonna throw a right hand. | ||
| Like, every time. | ||
| So you know that right hand's coming. | ||
| You know, it's unusual approaches to those real common situations. | ||
|
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Oh! | |
| He keeps walking in that. | ||
| Oh, Latife throwing bombs. | ||
| Got kicked in the fucking face. | ||
| Bader clocked him with that. | ||
| Southpaw this. | ||
| Yeah, Latife's trying to sprint at him in these exchanges. | ||
| He's going to catch a knee, man. | ||
| Latife's hair said, see ya. | ||
| Why not just shave it, right, fellas? | ||
| He's got most of it shaved. | ||
| I think he just lets it grow with his beard for a couple days. | ||
|
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Iliar. | |
| That's a cool name. | ||
| Yeah, it is. | ||
| Iliar. | ||
| So Bader is doing a lot of switching stances. | ||
| He looks great, man. | ||
| Yeah, he looks real loose. | ||
| A big loss like the Johnson one, man. | ||
| Especially when he came out of that huge win streak. | ||
| I'm sure he went back to the drawing board just to improve on stuff. | ||
| But if you can get past him, then give him a gust of an axe. | ||
| He's right back up in there, man. | ||
| Especially at 205. Who knows what's going to happen with John. | ||
| You've got DC, Rumble, you know? | ||
| Yeah, I mean, everybody just assumes that if Rumble catches you, you go to sleep, no matter who you are. | ||
| Well, that'd be correct, unless you're DC. He did catch DC and drop him on his ass. | ||
| Bader, like, good technique there. | ||
| Holds the left hand high, pinned to his face, throws that counter right hand, and he's able to throw, like, check hooks on both sides. | ||
| Look at that stuff. | ||
| Oh, dude, Bader is fucking on one tonight, man. | ||
| Latifi got double unders, couldn't do shit. | ||
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Nope. | |
| Yeah, he looks good, man. | ||
| Looks good. | ||
| And also, you gotta realize, Latife, we're four minutes into this fight. | ||
| He's been unsuccessful for four minutes. | ||
| His mind's gotta be fucking with him. | ||
| Not even close, either. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Not a fuck with you. | ||
| Oh, he just connected with the left hand. | ||
| He just connected with the left hand. | ||
| That's the danger of fighting this guy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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The bombs. | |
| He has so much power. | ||
| Look at him. | ||
| The way he throws things, too. | ||
| Vader can see it coming from fucking... | ||
| He's got to figure out a way. | ||
| You know, you don't learn until you fight a guy like this. | ||
| You've got to figure out a way to do it technically and then bomb selectively. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| These guys that try to bomb exclusively, those guys go dry. | ||
| They run out of gas. | ||
| Especially when you get in the top five. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, even experienced guys. | ||
| 12 through 15, you're fine, but top five. | ||
| Even Hector Lombard does that. | ||
| And he's an experienced guy with a World Bellator Championship. | ||
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Oh! | |
| That's what we were talking about. | ||
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He caught him! | |
| He caught him! | ||
| That's what we're talking about. | ||
| He just needs to get out of this round. | ||
| Well, he should break free, man, and keep bombing. | ||
| Ryan Bader's in deep shit right now. | ||
| Bader's in deep shit. | ||
| Damn, Bader got dropped, son. | ||
| Damn, Bader's tough. | ||
| Dude, and let me tell you something. | ||
| Fuck, you got out of the round. | ||
| How do you score the fight? | ||
| How do you score that round? | ||
| This is a good question. | ||
| He knocked him down. | ||
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You give it to Alifi. | |
| So you gotta give it to Alifi. | ||
| Bader was winning for four minutes and forty seconds of that fight. | ||
|
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Here it is. | |
| Still. | ||
| Still. | ||
| It's the end of the round and he got the knockdown. | ||
| That's a legit knockdown. | ||
| Come on, there's no way you're going to give it to Bader. | ||
| There's no way you're going to give it to Bader. | ||
| It's the end of the round and he got knocked down. | ||
| Dude, it was the end of the round and he got knocked down and you're going to give it to Bader? | ||
| Okay, but a knockdown scoring-wise in MMA is not the same as a knockdown in boxing. | ||
| If it was boxing, that would be either a 10-8 round or a 9-9 round. | ||
| It's all based on boxing, though. | ||
| It was all striking. | ||
| There was no grappling. | ||
| There was no grappling. | ||
| So let me ask you this, Eddie. | ||
| I mean, boxing scoring. | ||
| In boxing scoring, when a guy gets knocked down, you lose a point. | ||
| Okay, give it to Bader, then. | ||
| No, I'm not saying that. | ||
| No, I'm not saying that. | ||
| Eddie Bryan, so let's say he knocked him down the first 20 seconds of that fight, and then Bader won the rest 4 minutes and 40 seconds. | ||
| Who would you give the round to? | ||
| That's different. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| It's not the same. | ||
| It is the same. | ||
| You described a totally different situation. | ||
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No, I didn't. | |
| It's the end of the round, and he got knocked down. | ||
| So the end of the round means more. | ||
| At the end of the round. | ||
| No, it doesn't. | ||
| I would personally count how you're doing toward the end of the fight. | ||
| Guys can't talk over each other, please. | ||
| That's not the way the judging works, fellas. | ||
| I hate to tell you. | ||
| Yeah, well, that's true. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| As far as what the fight is or how it's being judged because of the rules, we're talking about two totally different things. | ||
| If you're looking at the fight, yeah. | ||
| If this was a fight in the street and Latife got pulled off of him at the last second, everybody would think Latife won. | ||
| Even in the sport, he won. | ||
| He knocked him down. | ||
| At the very least, he made it a debate. | ||
| That fight could have been over right there with some more time. | ||
| Yeah, but he survived. | ||
| It doesn't matter. | ||
| You got Bader on that route? | ||
| I have a draw. | ||
| I have a draw. | ||
| It could be. | ||
| I didn't see Bader doing anything besides stuffing takedowns, though. | ||
| He didn't really connect a lot. | ||
| He's got his front headlock here. | ||
| Octagon control, forward aggression. | ||
| That means Bader's probably kind of tired. | ||
| And he got clipped there. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| He was pressing it all the time. | ||
| You guys just got to know how they score the rounds. | ||
| I want to know how you scored it, not how other people scored it. | ||
| I would give that a draw, an even round. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Just because one guy does something with the last 20 seconds. | ||
| That's like saying the Connor-Diaz fight. | ||
| Man, if that was a fight fight, Diaz would probably win, right? | ||
| I'm just talking about the sport. | ||
| I'm not talking about Allie. | ||
| Latife threw a punch. | ||
| I always, like, flinch when dudes throw a punch and they land with the thumb. | ||
| Oh, dude. | ||
| You know, and they throw that, like, right hook, but it doesn't land knuckles. | ||
| That's why I have this fucking earthworm scar on my arm. | ||
| Yeah, I'm sure. | ||
| Because I land on that, and it's fucking compound fracture. | ||
| Yeah, Latife just did that. | ||
| He just threw a whipping bomb of a right hand, and he landed with his thumb, and I went, oof. | ||
| And it usually lands on, like, skull, like, not on chin. | ||
| It's the worst. | ||
| Just shatters your bone. | ||
| Keep an eye on his right hand. | ||
| I shattered my right thumb and when I got a surgery, I asked the doctor, I went, how's the scar? | ||
| I went, I did my best. | ||
| It looks like a centipede on my right hand. | ||
| So you're saying it comes from throwing that long hook? | ||
| Yeah, like a straight arm hook and you hit with the thumb. | ||
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Oh my god! | |
| Ryan Bader, bitch! | ||
| God damn, Ryan Bader! | ||
| Holy shit! | ||
| He kept going down like that. | ||
| That's what I said. | ||
| That makes it easy. | ||
| That makes it easy. | ||
| He kept dipping his head, man. | ||
| He's gonna get caught eventually. | ||
| God, Bader got away with fucking... | ||
| Congrats to Ryan Bader. | ||
| That's huge, Bader. | ||
| That's huge. | ||
| Such a dangerous fight. | ||
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Jesus. | |
| There's such a dangerous fight and hurt at the end of the first round and comes back with that shot. | ||
| Holy fuck, man. | ||
| Now, was that a kick or a knee? | ||
| It was a knee. | ||
| He kept going down like that because he's a southpaw. | ||
| Let's see. | ||
| I think he was doing both. | ||
| See, he was going for a kick. | ||
| It was a kick. | ||
| That's awful. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Walk away. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
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Boom! | |
| Yeah, that was a kick that landed on the knee. | ||
| That's dangerous. | ||
| That looks awful. | ||
| God, it was perfect timing, though. | ||
| Beautiful. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| Goddamn, that was good. | ||
| He landed two of those in the first round. | ||
| Boom! | ||
| Actually, that kind of looks like a knee. | ||
| It's like he adjusted. | ||
| It looks like he was going for a kick and then just fall through on the knee. | ||
| I think he might have adjusted and turned it into a knee. | ||
| Beautiful. | ||
| But being a wrestler, his instinct looked like he just would keep going for that double when he got in trouble. | ||
| Goddamn, Ryan Baker. | ||
| Holy shit, that's huge. | ||
| Such a big win for him. | ||
| Coming off that loss, dude, to get a knockout win. | ||
| Top four. | ||
| You're getting gusts for next, son. | ||
| Enjoy that. | ||
| It's a tough fight. | ||
| Joe Silva's out, so I make the matchups now. | ||
|
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So is that it? | |
| Is Joe Silva definitely out now? | ||
| Yeah, he's retiring. | ||
| He said, I made bank, son. | ||
| Is he done like this year or is he done right now? | ||
| End of the year. | ||
| End of the year. | ||
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Wow. | |
| He said, I made my money. | ||
| Fuck this silly matchup stuff. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| That's interesting. | ||
| Sean Shelby, take care of this. | ||
| He must have gotten paid. | ||
| That's what they say. | ||
|
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What's he do after this? | |
| Just lead the troll charge online? | ||
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Porn. | |
| Joe Silva just starts doing UFC porn. | ||
| Does he just lead the troll charge? | ||
| He's the head troll online now? | ||
| Cut to Joe Silva's next project. | ||
| Quick YouTube clip. | ||
| Him in a diaper. | ||
| Pink cage. | ||
| Bam. | ||
| Coming soon. | ||
| He may be short, but he's got a dick. | ||
| And just all big dudes in MMA gloves. | ||
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Boom! | |
| Yeah, it's like he was going for a kick and then adjusted in mid-swing and turned into a perfect knee. | ||
| You can see it. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Bam! | ||
| Yeah, see how he turned to hit the knee in? | ||
| That's awful. | ||
| Yeah, beautiful. | ||
| Fuck, that's awful. | ||
| Fuck, man, that's amazing. | ||
| Good for Ryan Bader. | ||
| Congratulations. | ||
| God, that's huge. | ||
| It's amazing that, again, that he's only 33. I mean, we've seen this dude in the UFC for a long time, but realistically, he's in his prime right now. | ||
| Right now. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's 32 to like 35. Experienced, too. | ||
| Especially light heavyweight or heavyweight. | ||
| Around 35, 36, you start going, hmm, if you're not doing anything, how long can you keep this up? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, if you're not on an upward trajectory, it's not going. | ||
| Hey, let me ask you that, because you just had Scott Coker on, who I'm a big fan of. | ||
| Such a good dude. | ||
| Yeah, great guy, and he's running Bellator now. | ||
| Wish him all the luck in the world. | ||
| Powerful Matt Hughes. | ||
| That's a chin. | ||
| That's an American chin right there. | ||
| That's a fucking American haircut. | ||
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God damn it. | |
| That's an American, period. | ||
| G.I. Joe, you guys. | ||
| Him and Henzo in Abu Dhabi. | ||
| Respect. | ||
| Yeah, they're going to have a grappling match. | ||
| That's awesome. | ||
| But Scott Coker running Bellator, if you're a fighter and you know Cajun, you know you like a little help, you know, in trains sometimes we're tired and you know, just a little pick-me-up, you know, run away from the doctor and you know, no one need to know, a couple days I'll be back, my friend! | ||
| My friend! | ||
| There's people that have been doing that since the beginning of time. | ||
| They've been taking a little something-something, and then they get to the weigh-in, and all they have to do is pass what most fighters call the intelligence test. | ||
| Don't get popped after the fight. | ||
| So it'll help you with your training. | ||
| How many guys are looking at Bellator and saying, well, there's no USADA over there? | ||
| I can fight longer. | ||
| Oh, not only longer, how about better? | ||
| Yeah, better. | ||
| How about way better? | ||
| That'd be better. | ||
| And I can have all my sponsors. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Oh, well, we can't find Brendan. | ||
| He's on a mountain somewhere in Colorado, and we can't get a piss test off of him. | ||
| Meanwhile, he's just out there, just veins coming out of your dick and your face and your tongue-ass veins. | ||
| Rocky Mountain Oysters. | ||
| He's just doing deadlifts. | ||
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Fuck a little TV. 34, 35, 36. Yeah, man. | |
| I mean, there's a real incentive. | ||
| And then there's a financial incentive because you can keep all your sponsors. | ||
| You don't have to worry about having a Reebok paired shorts on. | ||
| You can have Nike and fucking Under Armour and Condom Depot and whatever the fuck you want. | ||
| Well, that's what's going on with GSP and UFC, right? | ||
| Like, GSP goes, so I retired, but his contract freezes. | ||
| So the contract doesn't change because the last time he fought was 2013. He still has that old contract. | ||
| So when he comes back, they just go, yeah, turn the contract back on. | ||
| He's like, whoa, whoa, whoa. | ||
| When I was fighting for this money from the UFC, I had Under Armour, I had all these crazy brands. | ||
| I'm making tens of millions of dollars. | ||
| So you gotta make up for that. | ||
| And they're going, no, we're good. | ||
| And he's like, no, you can't do that. | ||
| I'm fucking George St. Pierre. | ||
| Did you see the war of words he's been having with Dana? | ||
| Where Dana's like, he really doesn't want to fight. | ||
| He doesn't want to fight at a championship level. | ||
| And then George goes, he does not know me. | ||
| He does not know me. | ||
| He goes, give me one fight and I'll show you who wants to fight. | ||
| How much money do you fucking need, UFC? Just pay the man. | ||
| Here's the thing from my perspective. | ||
| You can never say that a guy like George doesn't want it anymore unless he fights. | ||
| You cannot say that. | ||
| He is the greatest welterweight of all. | ||
| There's two guys. | ||
| There's Matt Hughes and there's George St. Pierre. | ||
| Those are the two, without a doubt, greatest welterweights historically ever. | ||
| So if either one of those guys wants to fight again, the last thing you can say is he doesn't want it. | ||
| Because only he knows if he wants it. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| He's the hardest motherfucker that ever weighed in at 170 pounds and fought. | ||
| And fought everybody. | ||
| He might go to Bellator? | ||
| No, he can't. | ||
| But he owns his contract. | ||
| But if I was Dana, I'd probably say the same shit. | ||
| 100%. | ||
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That's what you gotta say. | |
| All they're doing is to get him fired up. | ||
| I will sign your contract. | ||
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I'll sign it! | |
| I'll fucking sign it! | ||
| Nah, he don't want it. | ||
| I'll do it for free! | ||
| Fuck it! | ||
| Give me that Reebok kick! | ||
| For Quebec. | ||
| All the money will go to my country. | ||
| George is too smart. | ||
| Do you hear me? | ||
| He goes, I know what Dana's trying to do. | ||
| He goes, I'm too smart to play these games. | ||
| I'll sit out. | ||
| Like, it's not going to happen. | ||
| Is he sitting out for more money? | ||
| Is that what the deal is? | ||
| Why don't you take over Joe Silva's job? | ||
| Why don't you call Dana up and say, yo, bygones. | ||
| Let's let this shit go by. | ||
| Water under the bridge. | ||
| Holler at me, dude. | ||
| I got some ideas! | ||
| Plus, I got flavor and a number one podcast. | ||
| Come with me, son! | ||
| Let's take a ride. | ||
| Let's do this. | ||
| Let's take a ride. | ||
| Let's take a ride. | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| You want to have some fun? | ||
| Have a dude that you argue with all the time, and you guys publicly have little spats. | ||
| Everybody gets excited. | ||
| Come on! | ||
| Let's do this! | ||
| Mix it up! | ||
| Spit in my hand! | ||
| Come on, it's all good, man! | ||
| Shake! | ||
| I can't wear Reeboks, though. | ||
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No Reeboks. | |
| That's the one stickler. | ||
| Would you wear Yeezys, you fucking dunce? | ||
| You're fucking right. | ||
| You're fucking right, I would. | ||
| That's how Yeezys are better. | ||
| I thought I had them on right now. | ||
| That's a large Serbian man or whatever he is. | ||
| Look at what I'm wearing here. | ||
| Chucks. | ||
| These are like some slick-looking Chucks, but these are old-school Chuck Taylor Converse. | ||
| I'm not mad at them. | ||
| You feel the ground. | ||
| Those are classics. | ||
| Quite flexible. | ||
| Fashion. | ||
| Easy, son. | ||
| They're not comfortable. | ||
|
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What? | |
| How dare you? | ||
|
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How dare you? | |
| For a long day, there's not much comfort. | ||
| Although they redid the soles on those. | ||
| I don't like the new ones. | ||
| Nike makes the soles now. | ||
| I don't like the new ones as much. | ||
| I wear them. | ||
| I like them. | ||
| They're okay. | ||
| I should say I don't like them. | ||
| I prefer these. | ||
| Those are second. | ||
| You prefer the old school fucking wood bottoms. | ||
| Yeah, like these, man. | ||
| These ones that... | ||
| Oh, what's this guy's name? | ||
| Those are new, son. | ||
|
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BM Footwear. | |
| But these are not new. | ||
| These are the old school Converse. | ||
|
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Instagram, BM Footwear. | |
| Check them out. | ||
| BM Footwear. | ||
| VM. Don't go BM. There's body, bowel movement. | ||
| Nah, even these are upgraded, son. | ||
| I don't have to believe so, buddy. | ||
| Yeah, feel the soul. | ||
| Feel the inside. | ||
| Oh, Brennan, no shoes. | ||
|
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You can see it. | |
| Brennan, no shoes. | ||
|
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There's Lunarlon on there. | |
| Where? | ||
|
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Is it green? | |
| No, no, they're not the Nike Lunar. | ||
| The padding on the bottom is thicker than what they used to be. | ||
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Way thicker. | |
| Okay, the inside, like the insole? | ||
| Yeah, but it's not the Nike Lunar. | ||
| They're still fucking hardest. | ||
| The sole's the same, but the insole's quite a little bit thicker. | ||
| Either way, that's what I like. | ||
| I like old school chucks, because they're flat. | ||
| That's like how your foot's supposed to be. | ||
| When you wear things with an elevated heel, like a running shoe, it's not really supposed to be very good for you. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, your body doesn't want to be elevated in your heel like that. | ||
| You're supposed to wear some- Like cowboy boots? | ||
| Like, Eddie, when you lifted, you would always lift with these on, right? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Yeah, they're real thin. | ||
| That's why I wear ninja slippers. | ||
| That's a fucking shoe there, Joe. | ||
| Can we get you to wear some Yeezys? | ||
| No. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Those are goofy. | ||
| They're the worst shoe running in those things. | ||
| Look, why does it have a thin sole where the toes are- It's a running shoe. | ||
| Shut your fucking mouth. | ||
| A fat soul down there. | ||
| Why? | ||
| For pure comfort. | ||
| Nobody's running in those. | ||
| It's a running shoe. | ||
|
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People work out on them all the time, too. | |
| How dare you. | ||
| You do not work out on these. | ||
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I don't. | |
| People do, though, at the gym. | ||
| I just don't think that they're that cool looking. | ||
| I don't like them. | ||
| Well, you're 50. I don't think you're the demographic. | ||
| Nah, they still just don't. | ||
| You wouldn't know, though. | ||
| Aesthetically, they kind of suck, dude. | ||
| You wouldn't know, though. | ||
| You and Jamie are on the wrong side of history with these stupid shoes. | ||
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I don't think so. | |
| Well, I have cons, too. | ||
| You're gonna look back on those shoes like people do, and you're gonna be like, I can't believe I wore those back in the movie. | ||
| You know what I will never look back on? | ||
| Me wearing sandals with jeans like you do all the time. | ||
| You just can't do that. | ||
| Jesus did it, so kiss my ass. | ||
| I guess Jesus is wrong, too. | ||
| I always forget about Gustafson when I think about the division. | ||
| Such a badass. | ||
| Well, and also Gustafson is one of those guys that's been talking about retirement. | ||
| He's talked about ending it soon. | ||
| He went down to San Diego because he wanted to find the passion again, and I guess he still didn't find it. | ||
| So that's why they kind of... | ||
| Are you sure? | ||
| This is kind of a toss-up fight. | ||
| Yeah, you were saying he's still having some struggles with it. | ||
| Well, he's been public about that? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| While training for this fight? | ||
| That might be a trap. | ||
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Who is the guy he's fighting? | |
| Compared to Gustafson, he's a joke. | ||
| Well, he's not a joke. | ||
| He's just inexperienced in comparison to Gustafson. | ||
| But he's a dangerous guy. | ||
| He's from Poland. | ||
| They don't fuck around, dude. | ||
| Gustafson is the fucking... | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| He's that one percenter. | ||
| He almost beat fucking DC. He almost beat John. | ||
| And then he got that freak knockout by Johnson. | ||
| He's lost to just the one percent of one percent. | ||
| True, true. | ||
| True, true. | ||
| It's tough, man. | ||
| Yeah, Blakovich is certainly, this is like, without a doubt, like the toughest fight he's ever had. | ||
| That guy looks like a bad guy from the James Bond movie. | ||
| The guy on his right, look at that guy. | ||
| Yeah, he really does. | ||
| Jesus, he looks tough. | ||
| Definitely killed people. | ||
| Yeah, he's like the guy that James Bond has to fight in like an elevator and he kills him with a pen. | ||
| He looks rough. | ||
| Like the suit, he's wearing a suit and it's just, it's impossible to be elegant with that. | ||
| He just looks brutal. | ||
| It's not a well-tailored suit either, is it? | ||
| It doesn't look... | ||
| He's not at home in a suit. | ||
| He's at home in camo. | ||
| Camo? | ||
| With a knife. | ||
| Or a line cloth. | ||
| Did he leave his Yeezys at home? | ||
| That guy doesn't wear the Yeezys. | ||
| Well, he can't get ahold of them. | ||
| Yeezys melt off the fence. | ||
| They're so exclusive. | ||
| They're tough to get ahold of them. | ||
| What about fake Yeezys from China? | ||
| Is that super popular? | ||
| It's super popular, but it's very easy to tell. | ||
| Me and Brian were at lunch the other day, and four guys had him on. | ||
| I went, Brian, you want to see fake Yeezys? | ||
| How could you tell? | ||
| He's got an eye, man. | ||
| He's got an eagle eye for that show. | ||
| How could you tell? | ||
| There's little things. | ||
| Like, on the Converse, you know, like, maybe the star is black on that Converse. | ||
| On the Yeezys, the stitching on the back's different. | ||
| The space between the soles is different. | ||
| He's like a sneaker connoisseur. | ||
| It's unbelievable. | ||
| It's like smelling him like a fun one. | ||
| He'll have long conversations about it. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| The glue is from Indonesia. | ||
| This is fake. | ||
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Ha, ha, ha. | |
| You know what it is, Joe? | ||
| It'd be the same if someone bought a Z28 and then put SS badges on it. | ||
| You're like, well, those rims are different. | ||
| The exhaust is different. | ||
| The interior's different. | ||
| Let me see the engine. | ||
| You're like, God damn it. | ||
| You're honeydicking me. | ||
| This ain't a fucking SS. Cars are just like shoes. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Details. | ||
| It's all in the details, kids. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| All in the deets. | ||
| Dude, how about your boy Damian Maia? | ||
| Dude. | ||
| Dude, his jujitsu is so next level. | ||
| For him to do that to Condit, just slice through him like butter? | ||
| Dude, can you imagine? | ||
| Let's say Wonderboy beats Woodley, and then you have Damian Maia vs. | ||
| Wonderboy. | ||
| It would be like Hot Tub Time Machine 1993. Because you have one guy who just does jujitsu, One guy that just does stand-up in 2016. He doesn't just do jiu-jitsu. | ||
| The reason why he's able to pull off his beautiful jiu-jitsu is because of his wrestling. | ||
| He can take everybody down at 170. It doesn't matter. | ||
| For sure. | ||
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For sure. | |
| But it's still one aspect of MMA compared to one aspect of MMA in 2016. Right. | ||
| But at the highest of highest levels, it's fucking dope. | ||
| It's a throwback. | ||
| It is pretty dope. | ||
| It's dope. | ||
| It's like Hot Top Time Machine, but we just, you know what I'm saying? | ||
| They went back, but their skills are ridiculous. | ||
| It's so equivalent, because one guy's this elite, world-class striker, and the other guy's this elite, world-class grappler, who, like, they could compete outside of the UFC, In striking or in grappling. | ||
| If Wonderboy took on a kickboxing bout in Glory, he'd be very competitive with some of the best kickboxers in the world. | ||
| And if Damien Maia entered into a major jiu-jitsu competition tomorrow, he'd be very competitive against some of the best grapplers in the world. | ||
| It's really crazy. | ||
| It's cool, right? | ||
| Isn't it cool in 2016 to have that crazy dynamic? | ||
| I can't think of last time something like... | ||
| Generally, most UFC fighters, most of them, They couldn't go into, like, Abu Dhabi or even EBI and they would get smashed. | ||
| Unless they're a high-level wrestler. | ||
| Yeah, it'd be tough. | ||
| Yeah, and even high-level wrestler, like in the submission-only tournament, they've got leg locks. | ||
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In Abu Dhabi, well, submission-only, but, like, EBI different. | |
| Abu Dhabi, there's some high-level wrestlers, guys that jump in there with not a ton of jutsu experience. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| In Abu Dhabi, because of the point system, wrestling becomes fucking everything. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| That's why you can see some guys go in and compete. | ||
| All the Brazilians, when they're getting ready for Abu Dhabi, they're going to wrestling camps. | ||
| Maybe with the church boys and all that. | ||
| Because Abu Dhabi counts takedowns or what? | ||
| We should just explain that Abu Dhabi is the Abu Dhabi Combat Club. | ||
| This is like the biggest submission for jiu-jitsu. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Sheik Tak Noon, the guy who owns, I think he owns 10% of the UFC. He also is a black belt in Brazilian jiu-jitsu under Henzo Gracie. | ||
| And he puts on these grappling competitions that are just monstrous. | ||
| They spend money, and they have the best fighters in the world, and they put together... | ||
| They should really adopt EBI rules, dude. | ||
| It's like blood sport for jiu-jitsu. | ||
| EBI rules need to be standard, edgy brah. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| EBI wrestlers are going to get fucked up. | ||
| Many tournaments are switching. | ||
| I see it. | ||
| Many, many tournaments are switching to EBI rules now. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| Sonnen went to it. | ||
| Chael Sonnen's tournament went to it. | ||
| They did? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| It's smart. | ||
| It's the most exciting set of rules by far. | ||
| By far. | ||
| Not even close. | ||
| Thank you, man. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| You guys going to the show next week? | ||
| Jihad. | ||
| Are you going? | ||
| Yeah, Jihad. | ||
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Sunday? | |
| You going? | ||
| Where's it at? | ||
| Next Sunday at the Orpheum. | ||
| LA? LA, downtown at the Orpheum. | ||
| Yeah, I'll be there. | ||
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Let's go. | |
| Get your tickets at ebiofficial.com. | ||
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We're in. | |
| We're in. | ||
| Oh, for sure? | ||
| What about you, Brian? | ||
| I'll come. | ||
| Next Sunday, it's going to be fucking amazing. | ||
| Gordon Ryan. | ||
| I might be in New York City. | ||
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Gordon Ryan is the best jiu-jitsu player on the planet right now. | |
| I'm doing Gotham Comedy Club. | ||
| September 16th and 17th. | ||
| When is it? | ||
| September 11th. | ||
| I'll be around. | ||
| Tower 7 day. | ||
| Did you guys see Gordon Ryan versus Keenan Cornelius go for, what, 90 minutes? | ||
| 90 minutes, yeah. | ||
| Keenan's a monster. | ||
| Keenan's a monster, but Gordon Ryan beat him, man. | ||
| Tapped him. | ||
| 20 years old. | ||
| Kid's been training jiu-jitsu four and a half years. | ||
| Jesus Christ! | ||
| But Keenan Cornelius is going to do EBI November 6th. | ||
| We're doing the light heavyweights, and Gordon Ryan's going to do that one as well. | ||
| I love Keenan. | ||
| But next Sunday is 185. Next Sunday is 185. It's the middleweights, EBI, downtown LA, the Orpheum. | ||
| What time does it start? | ||
| At 5 o'clock. | ||
| Okay, cool. | ||
| It's going to be on UFC Fight Pass, but for those of you that don't live in Southern California. | ||
| Yeah, UFC Fight Pass, stepping up. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| It's so cool that they did that. | ||
| Okay, here we go. | ||
| We got Gustafsson versus Blachowicz. | ||
| Gustafsson got checked. | ||
| I would be willing to bet if Gustafsson, for whatever reason, loses his fight, is done fighting. | ||
| Blachowicz with a right hand over the top. | ||
| Gustafsson's so fucking big. | ||
| I think you say Blachowicz is the way you're supposed to say it. | ||
| Blahovitch? | ||
| I'm saying Blahovitch. | ||
| I think it's Blahovitch. | ||
| I like Blahovitch. | ||
| Just call him the block, son. | ||
| The block. | ||
| Talking about the block? | ||
| The blow-ho. | ||
| The blow-ho? | ||
| No, that doesn't work. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I like the block. | ||
| The blow-ho. | ||
| Oh, fuck! | ||
| He's, um... | ||
| I don't like the way Justin's looking. | ||
| Blachowicz keeps his head right in the center when he's throwing bombs against a really elite guy. | ||
| He stiffens up a little bit when he's standing up. | ||
| He could get clipped with counters. | ||
| Gus and I trained together for my Mitrione fight, and he went six rounds with a world-class boxer, and it was fucking a war, and then jumped in and went three rounds with me back-to-back. | ||
| He's a fucking animal. | ||
| He's a fucking animal. | ||
| He's a tough guy. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| I mean... | ||
| Powerful CM Punk for Mickey Gall sponsor on the back there. | ||
| What are you saying? | ||
| What are you saying? | ||
| Oh, right there on the wall? | ||
| That's ridiculous. | ||
| Yeah, well, I mean, he's a famous guy. | ||
| Look, the CM Punk thing, the thing that's most interesting about it is that he took all his time. | ||
| Whoa, Blachowicz is throwing some bombs. | ||
| But he's stiff. | ||
| Stiff with the neck. | ||
| Stiff in there. | ||
| He's like... | ||
| Gus Fin's reach is so good, man. | ||
| Not in this fight. | ||
| Not in this fight. | ||
| But usually it's fucking on point. | ||
| His jab's world class. | ||
| Well, Blachowicz is fighting really well. | ||
| Yeah, he's fighting really, really well. | ||
| He's very stiff. | ||
| He's using up a lot of energy. | ||
| I'll tell you what a surprise is. | ||
| Gustvin's wrestling, man. | ||
| His counter-wrestling is amazing. | ||
| Well, when he took John down in the first round, everybody was like, oh, shit. | ||
| Called that. | ||
| Because I was wrestling with his ass. | ||
| I'm like, Jesus Christ. | ||
| Do you really think he was going to take John down? | ||
| I did. | ||
| I called it. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| That's hilarious. | ||
| Because his wrestling's so unexpected and good. | ||
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Wow. | |
| That's impressive. | ||
| He's so big for a 205 or two, man. | ||
| He's tall as shit. | ||
| 6'5", man. | ||
| Yeah, I always wonder, what does a guy like that walk around at? | ||
| He's like high 220s, 230s sometimes. | ||
| So with a guy like him, do you think there'd be any benefit in a rigorous strength and conditioning program and moving up? | ||
| To heavyweight? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, him versus Stipe would be a hell of a fight, but I think when you fight guys like Rothwell, like Stipe, JDS, Kane, I think he might be alright. | ||
| I don't know if he doesn't possess the power. | ||
| That's the problem. | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| He's knocked guys out. | ||
| He knocked Jimmy Manoa out. | ||
| Name a high-level guy that he's knocked out, though. | ||
| Well, Manoa's pretty high-level. | ||
| Take it easy. | ||
| Let's just be real. | ||
| When you're talking about John Jones, DC, you're talking about 1%ers. | ||
| But the only guy out of that group that stopped him was Rumble. | ||
| And Rumble could stop anybody. | ||
| And if you look at the way Rumble stopped him, it's actually arguably more impressive that he lasted as long as he did when Rumble was bombing on him. | ||
| But those extra shots that he took, those don't help you. | ||
| Not at all. | ||
| What's like... | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| He's making a dogfight. | ||
| What's like Carlos Condit, right? | ||
| Like, he loses that fight, and he's like, I don't know if I want to do this anymore. | ||
| Then I heard his coach on the interview, Brandon Gibson, powerful Brandon Gibson. | ||
| There's his wrestling. | ||
| I don't know if he wants to do it anymore. | ||
| He wants to move on, do other stuff. | ||
| It's time to get out, man. | ||
| He can still beat 90... | ||
| 8% of the division, but still, man, get the fuck out, Condit. | ||
| He's also a smart guy. | ||
| Very smart. | ||
| And when you're that smart, you're aware, like, okay, how many more shots am I going to be able to take? | ||
| Well, he was at like, what was he, 16, 17, doing Valley Tudo bare knuckle boxing and shit? | ||
| Like, he's a nightmare. | ||
| That age? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He fought his first ever kickboxing match against Andy Sauer, who's a world champion. | ||
| Yeah, if you don't know Andy Sowers, fucking Google or YouTube him. | ||
| I marvel at Condit, how good he's always been. | ||
| Yeah, Andy Sauer is like a phenom, like a world champion, multiple-time world champion. | ||
| That was Carlos' first kickboxing bout. | ||
| It's so insane that he took that fight. | ||
| He's done bare-knuckle stuff. | ||
| He's just been fighting forever, man. | ||
| So the head trauma, like you said, he's a smart guy. | ||
| He talks about it. | ||
| He's open about it. | ||
| What's he talking about? | ||
| He said about head trauma and stuff? | ||
| Yeah, just like it's a concern of his, and he doesn't know if he wants to keep doing it and stuff like that. | ||
| He has a second or third baby on the way, I think. | ||
| He's probably got some money in the bank, I hope. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know. | ||
| I don't know how much money he's made. | ||
| It's tough with a guy like that. | ||
| He's an interim champ, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then he's always fought top five level, but to really make that crazy retirement money, you've got to beat a guy like GSP, Conor, you know what I'm saying? | ||
| Yeah, or you got to figure out some way to market yourself outside of the UFC. I mean, it's got to be something like Alan Joban's doing modeling. | ||
| You know, you broke off into podcasting. | ||
| There's got to be, like, another way as well. | ||
| But to only rely on your success in athletic contests to make your money? | ||
| You almost have to, Joe. | ||
| Because Damien Maia's not thinking about making money anywhere else. | ||
| Condit right now can open up an MMA gym and make plenty of money. | ||
| That's tough, man. | ||
| I think that's easier said than done. | ||
| No, it's not that hard. | ||
| You're a UFC fighter. | ||
| The UFC gyms would beg to differ. | ||
| Verdooms, verdooms. | ||
| I'm just saying in general, if you go off the general consensus of opening a gym, you don't get your money back returned within four years. | ||
| It's not a smart business to go into. | ||
| If you're a black belt and you're a legit, if you're a UFC fighter and you're a black belt, and you're not, I'm in the, this is my business. | ||
| You're a great teacher. | ||
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No, he doesn't even have to teach. | |
| He doesn't trust me. | ||
| He could make plenty of money with just his own gym. | ||
| Have two gyms. | ||
| Super easy. | ||
| You just gotta be a black belt at the marketing. | ||
| Learn the marketing. | ||
| Learn how to do it. | ||
| He's got a black belt and he's a UFC fighter. | ||
| I know guys that are purple belts that are making a living. | ||
| They just have the marketing down. | ||
| It's huge. | ||
| It's still growing. | ||
| It's expanding. | ||
| Jiu-Jitsu schools and MMA gyms done right. | ||
| It really is like the gold rush. | ||
| I agree 100%. | ||
| It's wide open. | ||
| Now you're assuming he has the money put down to open a gym. | ||
| She could do it easy. | ||
| Easy. | ||
| A million percent. | ||
| Easy. | ||
| Carlos Condon? | ||
| That guy's a famous UFC star and a black belt? | ||
| I'm not saying he can't. | ||
| I think to assume a guy can open a gym and make a shitload of money is tough. | ||
| A million percent. | ||
| A million percent. | ||
| So anyone in the UFC could do it? | ||
| If you're a black belt, if you're a legit black belt and you've had success in the UFC, like I just said, I've had guys that haven't been in the UFC, not even black belts, and they're It is two different skills. | ||
| You just gotta know the business. | ||
| That's a big if, though. | ||
| Am I wrong here, Joe? | ||
| Running a business and knowing how to fight is a completely different world. | ||
| Yes, that's why I said if you master the marketing and the business side. | ||
| That's a big if. | ||
| If you learn how to speak Spanish, you could write awesome books. | ||
| No, but it's easier than learning Spanish. | ||
| It's easier than that. | ||
| I believe it. | ||
| The motivation is there too because it's like your money and it's your family. | ||
| It's not that hard at all. | ||
| Learning how to coach. | ||
| I'm dealing with this every day. | ||
| I deal with this every day. | ||
| And you're brilliant at it. | ||
| It doesn't mean it's easy though. | ||
| There's a lot of guys that are just not good at coaching. | ||
| But it's easy. | ||
| It's easy. | ||
| All you gotta do is know the system and work hard. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| You work hard. | ||
| If you're lazy, it ain't gonna happen. | ||
| Yeah, but that's the truth of everything. | ||
| There's so many people that are looking for things to be happening. | ||
| No, no, but there's a lot of things that require just shit that you could never learn, like being a stand-up comedian. | ||
| Not everybody can do that, right? | ||
| Not everybody could be a singer. | ||
| Not everybody. | ||
| But everybody can do certain things in business. | ||
| All you gotta do is do the work and not be lazy, and you can make it happen. | ||
| You don't need special talent. | ||
| Blachowicz cannot get off his back. | ||
| Powerful wrestling by Alexander. | ||
| Yeah, he's getting smushed. | ||
| He's getting a lot of elbows. | ||
| I agree with you, Brandon, a million percent. | ||
| Once a fighter starts doubting whether they have the heart, I think it's time to just transition. | ||
| Especially a guy like Carlos. | ||
| It's time to transition. | ||
| It's also an absolute fact that when you get hit in the head a lot, it starts to affect your enthusiasm. | ||
| It starts to affect your endocrine system. | ||
| There's a potential, like, you know, I know a guy who's a world-class boxer, and I know a friend who trains him, who said that he absolutely has pituitary gland damage, and he has a really hard time getting the energy up to train. | ||
| They had his testosterone checked and it's just ridiculously low. | ||
| And there's nothing they can do about it because the supplement is illegal. | ||
| So they can't supplement his testosterone. | ||
| So this guy is forced to fight with low testosterone, low enthusiasm. | ||
| He just can't muster up the kind of performances he had earlier in his career. | ||
| And that's super common, man. | ||
| When you see fighters slow down as they get older, it is not just because they're older. | ||
| It's because they're older and they've taken a lot of punishment. | ||
| Those are the big factors. | ||
| And it causes a physiological change in their body. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Well, you see some guys like Chinzo Machida. | ||
| Chinzo's like 39 years old, but he doesn't have a lot of fights on him. | ||
| And so he's fighting in Bellator now. | ||
| He looks like a world-beater. | ||
| He looks fucking fantastic. | ||
| He's a starching dude. | ||
| Knees, kicks, starching good. | ||
| He looks like his brother in a lot of ways. | ||
| He looks like Lyoto. | ||
| Maybe even a little more aggressive than Lyoto. | ||
| He's aggressive. | ||
| He's more wild, I would say. | ||
| How's his jiu-jitsu and stuff? | ||
| Very good. | ||
| Well, he's an elite martial artist. | ||
| He's an elite martial artist. | ||
| Chinzo Machida. | ||
| Such a good guy, too. | ||
| I bet. | ||
| Oh, he's a good guy. | ||
| Well, Leoto's an awesome guy. | ||
| Yeah, they're all great. | ||
| But the point being that that guy hasn't taken a lot of mileage, so even though he's 39 years old, he looks fucking good. | ||
| He doesn't look like a 39-year-old guy who's at the tail end of a long MMA career, and he's got all these injuries he's constantly struggling against and can't get through camp without getting hurt. | ||
| It's not like that. | ||
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| You're looking at a guy who's... | ||
| Well, that's like the CM Punk argument, right? | ||
| He's 37 or 38, whatever he is, and he has a lot of injuries coming from professional wrestling, and he's never done the sport, so then he has to train two years and then go into it. | ||
| You're talking about a different animal. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's not a good fucking... | ||
| It's not like, if you look at it like a plan. | ||
| Like, this is the way I want to get into MMA. It's not a good plan, but this is the plan that he was dealt. | ||
| I mean, he's 37 years old. | ||
| He decides he's going to do it now. | ||
| He does a lot of things that I like. | ||
| He goes to Rufus Sport, which is an outstanding gym. | ||
| One of the best. | ||
| He's working with world-class trainers and world-class sparring partners. | ||
| And then on top of that, he took two whole years. | ||
| So it's as good as the guy could do. | ||
| Two whole years? | ||
| Two whole years. | ||
| Think about... | ||
| Damien Maia's damage he's taken throughout his career. | ||
| He hasn't really taken any damage. | ||
| He's taken 13 punches in his last, what, four fights? | ||
| Yeah, 13. It's incredible. | ||
| What the fuck? | ||
| What fight was he involved in that he received the most damage? | ||
| Nate Marquardt starched him with one punch. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| Knocked him out? | ||
| Knocked him out. | ||
| He went to kick. | ||
| He struggled for a while there. | ||
| You know what he did? | ||
| He figured there's a guy who broke down all his jujitsu on YouTube into four parts. | ||
| It's pretty fucking interesting. | ||
| You go through his early decisions on the ground to the decisions he's making now. | ||
| He has got this path. | ||
| The passes that he's using now, he kind of tripods and it's kind of like a smash pass. | ||
| He gets to top half. | ||
| He knows that if he just hovers over, keeps his head on his opponent's chest, and he's pinning him down, and he gets to top half. | ||
| He doesn't even need to pass, and then he turns. | ||
| He's not taking any damage. | ||
| Then he goes to three-quarter mount, and then from there he throws a couple punches. | ||
| The guy gives him his back because in three-quarter mount you basically already have a hook in. | ||
| He's figured out this path, nice and simple. | ||
| There's so many things you can do as a jiu-jitsu black belt to pass your first initial move. | ||
| There's all these passes. | ||
| He has chosen the passes. | ||
| To the mount and to the back, that path is the best path in MMA. He's 38 too, right? | ||
| 39. He's 39. 38 or 39, I'm not sure. | ||
| If he's smart, if I'm his management, and people get mad when I do this shit, but he's not fighting anyone until he gets a title shot. | ||
| Six in a row, you don't fight anyone. | ||
| Well, you know what's really interesting? | ||
| Jake Shields beat him, and he out-grappled him. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Look at the list Jake Shields beat. | ||
| Don't ever forget how goddamn good Jake Shields is. | ||
| And he just submitted Leota Machida, by the way, in a grappling competition. | ||
| And he beat Woodley. | ||
| He beat Woodley. | ||
| You know, he's beat everyone. | ||
| Look at the top five guys. | ||
| Jake Shields beat him. | ||
| Didn't he fight Robbie Lawler and beat Robbie? | ||
| He beat Robbie, yeah. | ||
| Submitted him. | ||
| Submitted him. | ||
| Standing guillotine. | ||
| Jumped up, grabbed ahold of his neck, and Robbie was like, um, what's this? | ||
| This is a world-class squeeze, son. | ||
| This is a vegan squeeze. | ||
| Look at what Maya's doing on his back. | ||
| What Maya's doing on his back, there's a million things you can do. | ||
| There's all these styles. | ||
| He's keeping it nice and simple. | ||
| All Damon Maya is looking for when he's on his back is the underhook. | ||
| Everything is a setup to the underhook. | ||
| He gets in a Z-guard. | ||
| He times the punch. | ||
| As soon as you throw a right punch, he shoots in. | ||
| He has a Z-guard, then he shoots in, grabs the underhook, and either gets on top and they stand, just like Chuck Liddell used to do with the underhook, or he uses that to sweep him like he'll get into dogfight and he'll go through him. | ||
| He keeps it simple. | ||
| When I see a guy like him, I want to see him fight a guy who's a world-class jiu-jitsu guy with a wicked guard. | ||
| Like a Braulio Estima. | ||
| Like someone who's nasty off of his back. | ||
| You want to see Damien? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| He's going to do the exact same path, whether the guy knows jiu-jitsu or not. | ||
| The path that he's chosen, from the bottom and from the top, no matter who he's going with, that's the best path. | ||
| When there's no gi, when there's punches, when there's elbows, Damien Maia is just... | ||
| Just dwindled everything down, keeping it nice and simple. | ||
| On his back, it's just the underhook. | ||
| I'm sure he would do it, but my question is, would he be able to execute that kind of a strategy against a guy like Braulio Esteeman? | ||
| It would be harder. | ||
| Yeah, that's why I want to see it. | ||
| I want to see what a guy with a world-class guard. | ||
| Braulio does a lot of weird stuff, too. | ||
| He's got that triangle that he does, that underneath triangle. | ||
| You know that weird backwards triangle he does? | ||
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Is he doing MMA? Yeah, he's doing MMA. He's doing some fights. | |
| Yeah, he's doing some fights. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| When I watch someone like Damian Maia, because I don't have that much of a trained eye, it doesn't look like he's doing anything different than everybody else when he takes your back or when he's on top of you and he's controlling you. | ||
| And what's interesting is the subtlety of jiu-jitsu on that level that unless you have a cultivated eye... | ||
| It just looks like he's wearing him like a sweater. | ||
| He's controlling the arm. | ||
| He's coming in. | ||
| He somehow gets that figure four around his stomach. | ||
| But there's no way you're getting that dude off. | ||
| You're not getting him off. | ||
| And why? | ||
| Someone like Carlos Kanda can't even get him off. | ||
| And Carlos Kanda is experienced as anybody. | ||
| And that's where that level of mastery is so subtle and almost invisible. | ||
| It's hard to see unless you really know what the hell he's doing. | ||
| Because a lot of it seems to be like where he's putting his weight, those little differences, how he's countering, how he's predicting what you're going to do before you do it. | ||
| Well, that path that Maya is on, the techniques that he's putting together, the treasure map that he's on, Carlos Condit probably wasn't getting someone on a daily basis at a high level hitting him with that specific path. | ||
| Those moves that he chose, that he strung together, nice and simple, nice and tight. | ||
| And, you know, you gotta prepare for something as simple as that. | ||
| You gotta prepare for someone coming at you exactly like that. | ||
| Because everything that Maya chooses, all those positions are the best positions for MMA. No doubt. | ||
| He's got a path. | ||
| He's figured it out. | ||
| Yeah, he's figured out the path. | ||
| There's a million moves, but he's got the path, and it's the same shit he's doing over and over. | ||
| You know, I want to see guys like, you know, Rafael Lovato is now getting into MMA, and he's had a few MMA fights outside of the UFC. He's going to do well. | ||
| He's going to smash guys. | ||
| It's a very similar style. | ||
| That top, heavy pressure just grinds, it smashes, and squishes you. | ||
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It's all about those moves. | |
| One position or the next, like these small, methodical, one position. | ||
| His chest is on you. | ||
| He's so heavy. | ||
| It's all Hicks and Gracie lineage. | ||
| Hicks and Gracie, Salo Hibero, and he's with Salo. | ||
| It's like that old-school, solid jiu-jitsu. | ||
| Like, that fucking scary, perfect-based jiu-jitsu. | ||
| It's really more the specific... | ||
| You can't breathe. | ||
| It's the specific moves that he's choosing. | ||
| It's how he's doing... | ||
| It's not like he could have picked... | ||
| Are you talking about Damian? | ||
| I'm talking about Maia. | ||
| We're talking about Rafael Lovato. | ||
| So he does have that smashing, high-level jiu-jitsu, but there have been a bunch of high-level jiu-jitsu guys trying to transition into the UFC. The problem is they're not selecting the moves that Damian Maia is selecting. | ||
| Everybody in MMA right now, if you're not studying, if you're in the UFC, And you are not studying exactly the moves that Damien Maia has chosen and the path, it's all laid out for you. | ||
| That's the path you need to get on. | ||
| There's a lot of different jujitsu techniques, a lot of different styles of playing guard, different guard passing styles. | ||
| There's all this shit you can decide to do in the mountain, three-quarter mountain, all these decisions. | ||
| Damien Maia's making all the right decisions. | ||
| If you're not studying his shit, I mean, there's something wrong with you and your coach. | ||
| Look how long it took Damien to get there. | ||
| He went through some shit to figure out himself as a fighter. | ||
| There's an evolution. | ||
| He wasn't choosing that exact path early on. | ||
| He was trying to stand too much. | ||
| On the bottom, he was always about the underhook from his early days. | ||
| But what he changed is he doesn't sit... | ||
| When he's on top, he never sits into... | ||
| A Z half guard. | ||
| He calls it headquarters. | ||
| He doesn't sit into that anymore because when he wants people to sit into Z guard when he's on bottom, because from there he just waits for you to throw a right punch and he times it. | ||
| He shoots for the underhook because you just left a big ass opening and from there he gets to dogfight. | ||
| That's all he's waiting for. | ||
| So he doesn't want to do that because he knows that that's actually the wrong thing to do. | ||
| So he tripods when he's in that headquarter position and he gets up and he drives his head down and then he maneuvers his way into top half and then he turns towards it. | ||
| It's really simple. | ||
| It's not like he's mixing it up. | ||
| Right. | ||
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He knows the best shit in MMA. He's doing the same path over and over and over again. | |
| You know who else is in the MMA recently? | ||
| I just found out that Tiffany Van Hoos, the Tiffany Time Bomb. | ||
| She fights in Invicta, I think, next week or two weeks. | ||
| Is it her first MMA fight? | ||
| I think so. | ||
| It's her first MMA fight. | ||
| Was she a Jiu-Jitsu? | ||
| No. | ||
| Muay Thai. | ||
| World champion. | ||
| World champ Muay Thai. | ||
| Nasty. | ||
| Little tiny girl. | ||
| She's 115, right? | ||
| 115, yeah. | ||
| But when you look at the women's division, she's going to be in the UFC. C-C-C-C. Quick! | ||
| Knocking bitches out, too. | ||
| Tana's fucked. | ||
| If she can avoid the takedown, it's going to be interesting. | ||
| She's a great base. | ||
| She's in Joanna's division. | ||
| That's what I'm saying, yeah. | ||
| Jamie, bring her up for a sec. | ||
| Let me see your Tiffany time moments. | ||
| Isn't it crazy that just maybe four years ago, women being huge in the UFC was... | ||
| I mean, most people thought that would never happen. | ||
| Good-looking woman, too. | ||
| Yeah, she's beautiful. | ||
| She's beautiful. | ||
| She's a world champion Muay Thai, and she... | ||
| I think she lives in Bali, but then she does her camps out here. | ||
| She's doing it right, man. | ||
| She's badass. | ||
| Badass. | ||
| Have you seen her on AXS TV just knocking bitches out left and right? | ||
| Yeah, all the time. | ||
| And with little gloves, it's going to be very interesting. | ||
| And I think she's training at Alliance down there, too. | ||
| Is she? | ||
| Part of it. | ||
| Good move. | ||
| She has her same striking coach for Muay Thai, but then I think she's doing some at Alliance. | ||
| There's just going to be a level of technique that she has that most girls just are not going to be able to hang with. | ||
| She has such a big advantage. | ||
| Except for Joanna. | ||
| Juana's pretty fucking high level, dude. | ||
| I agree, but let Tiff get a few fights, then you got yourself a real barn burner. | ||
| Because everyone else in that division can't even match up with a striking-wise. | ||
| Tiff can. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah, there's a lot of dangerous kickboxing women that are coming over now, like Valentina Shevchenko. | ||
| You see when she fought Holly Holm? | ||
| No, she's fighting in the UFC. She beat Holly Holm. | ||
| Do you know who I'm talking about in Bellator, the chicken in Bellator? | ||
| No, but Valentina, when you see all her years of Muay Thai experience at a world championship level, when she fights someone like Holly, you get to see that. | ||
| You're like, oh, there's levels to this shit. | ||
| Plus they've been there. | ||
| Yeah, that check hook that you kept nailing it with, that check right hook. | ||
| Holly got rattled early in the first round. | ||
| You realize the timing is very different for someone who's that good. | ||
| Plus those girls that come from that super high-level background of striking with boxing, Muay Thai, whatever it is. | ||
| You don't really see women come from a high-level background other than those two. | ||
| The ones that do, I have such... | ||
| Some of them. | ||
| Mackenzie Dern, she's in now. | ||
| Yeah, but there's someone in the UFC with high-level jiu-jitsu who's killing it. | ||
| Well, she's not in it yet, but I mean, there's women out there. | ||
| She had one fight. | ||
| Mackenzie Dern, yeah. | ||
| I'm not saying in the UFC, yeah. | ||
| I'm just saying, Joe... | ||
| From history with women's fighting, usually they come from that high-level striking background. | ||
| They have such an advantage because they've been in the live fire. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
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For sure. | |
| So when they get in the UFC and they're fighting a girl who maybe she just likes to fight and do it all, when they fight these super high-level strikers, they're fucked, man. | ||
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Yep. | |
| A lot of them. | ||
| That's why, you know, they're going to need that wrestling and that jiu-jitsu. | ||
| And another thing about Damon Mai is when he gets the back, a lot of people get the back in MMA, but he's on that Marcelo Garcia level, but when he gets your back, he knows how to close and he knows how to finish. | ||
| It takes so long to have that master. | ||
| Because anybody can get on the back and put the leg hooks in and then they've got the overrun fight. | ||
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But people, to be able to close that shit... | |
| With gloves, it's tough. | ||
| It takes a while, and he got to the point. | ||
| Now, in the beginning, he probably wasn't really known for taking people's backs and choking them really, really easily. | ||
| It took a while, but now, man, when he gets your back, it's very hard to escape. | ||
| Unless you're high level. | ||
| Unless you're already at a black belt. | ||
| But, you know, he gets... | ||
| Carlos is a black belt. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Different... | ||
| Levels. | ||
| How many rear naked chokes has Damian Maia gotten? | ||
| Six. | ||
| The record's seven. | ||
| The record's seven with Kenny Florian. | ||
| It's not just that. | ||
| It's like when he gets to that position, you doesn't even have to get under your chin. | ||
| He just squeezes your fucking head. | ||
| All that shit is in the jaw. | ||
| That's what it's all about. | ||
| Closing the deal. | ||
| Making you tap. | ||
| He knows how to make you tap. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Somebody played an interesting video, they sent it to me on Twitter, of one of Hickson's black belts in Australia. | ||
| This guy's doing this demonstration with a rear naked choke, and he was saying that the rear naked choke is all about the legs. | ||
| And so he's got the rear naked choke on and just using his legs, obviously like stretching the body out, but applying pressure just with his legs. | ||
| And he was like, that's what the rear naked choke's all about. | ||
| I'm like... | ||
| Man, I see what you're doing, and I think that is definitely... | ||
| It's huge. | ||
| It adds pressure. | ||
| It adds power. | ||
| But to me, I think the most important thing is the squeeze. | ||
| All of it. | ||
| Every ounce of your body is perfect. | ||
| Everything's got to be perfect. | ||
| Your butt, your hips, your shoulders, your neck. | ||
| Everything has to be perfect. | ||
| That's a high-level squeeze. | ||
| It's everything. | ||
| Like Gary Tonin. | ||
| Didn't he win EBI? He got a rear-naked choke with no hooks in. | ||
| If you got a world-class squeeze and you get a clean angle on the neck, if it's clean and deep and you're under the chin, you don't need the leg hooks no more. | ||
| I forget who he did that to, but he did that in EBI 5. It was fucking awesome. | ||
| I forget who he did it to, too. | ||
| So, the guy's right. | ||
| Legs definitely have a huge factor. | ||
| And when someone's got your back, and they have really... | ||
| You ever see when Toquino grappled with Mayhem Miller? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| In a grappling match? | ||
| No, they were in Brazil. | ||
| It was in Brazil and England. | ||
| He was down there training, and Toquino just... | ||
| Well, I talked to Mayhem and I was like, hey, I was out partying the night before. | ||
| I was drunk. | ||
| It was probably totally true, you know? | ||
| 100%. | ||
| But it didn't matter. | ||
| Tequino just took his back like a ghost. | ||
| Or took his arm. | ||
| No, I thought that was... | ||
| Salivaries took his arm. | ||
| It wasn't Tequino you're talking about. | ||
| It was Husamar Pajaras. | ||
| That's what I'm talking about. | ||
| Yeah, Paul Harris. | ||
| Yeah, that's his nickname. | ||
| It means tree stump. | ||
| A guy like that, when they get your back with those giant ass legs that he has, when he's like squeezing down on your shit and stretching you out as he's choking you. | ||
| He's a fucking nut. | ||
| Did you see Gary Tonin against Taquino in Polaris? | ||
| Yes, yes. | ||
| You see that? | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| That's an example of one of those submission-only matches that ends up in a draw, but was amazing. | ||
| There's so many badass draws out there. | ||
| They're not all bad. | ||
| Just because it's a draw doesn't mean it... | ||
| Look at my draw with Cyborg. | ||
| To a guy like you, or you who could really appreciate the technique and sees what's going on. | ||
| Did you just say, look at my draw with Cyborg? | ||
| Obviously. | ||
| How dare you. | ||
| Obviously joking. | ||
| Obviously joking. | ||
| Obviously seeing who's paying attention. | ||
| You know what's crazy about this EBI coming up is one of the worst case scenarios people would come up to me and ask me about, and I would think about it too. | ||
| Would have someone won EBI? By escapes. | ||
| Got into overtime in every round and then won by quickest escape time. | ||
| Would that ruin the show? | ||
| And I thought, damn, I don't know. | ||
| But Eduardo Telles, he's a turtle guard master. | ||
| And turtle guard is just basically giving up your back. | ||
| So anybody who goes to turtle guard, very few people can do this. | ||
| They've got to have the best back defense ever if you're going to play turtle guard. | ||
| Right? | ||
| So he does. | ||
| And he's known that. | ||
| And he's known in the jiu-jitsu community. | ||
| He's a legend. | ||
| Legend at defense. | ||
| It's untappable, this guy, Eduardo Telles. | ||
| So he's doing EBI 8 next Sunday. | ||
| You can watch the Countdown Show on YouTube, EBI Countdown, EBI 8. He's on the Countdown Show talking about winning EBI on escapes. | ||
| Right? | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| So now that's an actual real scenario that we're dealing with. | ||
| So instead of killing the show, now it's actually interesting to see if he could win the whole thing by escaping. | ||
| Look at this shit. | ||
| Ricardo Lamas versus BJ Penn, October 15th in Manila, Philippines. | ||
| Why do they do that to my boy BJ? Manila, Philippines. | ||
| Why not, man? | ||
| Let's see what's up. | ||
| That's a good fight right there. | ||
| Let's see what's up. | ||
| I keep thinking BJ's retired. | ||
| He's... | ||
| Well, BJ honestly should be fighting someone who is outside of the top 20 to get his timing back. | ||
| Let him fight Sam Punk. | ||
| But that said, BJ Penn is fucking BJ Penn. | ||
| And BJ Penn wants to fight the tough guys. | ||
| He can do whatever he wants. | ||
| He can do whatever he wants. | ||
| And if he doesn't fight a guy who's super dangerous, he's probably not going to train as hard. | ||
| He's not going to get up for it. | ||
| So this is how BJ's kind of got to do it. | ||
| I fucking love BJ Penn. | ||
| It's smart. | ||
| Did Llamas call him out or something? | ||
| No. | ||
| How did that happen? | ||
| They just tossed him the Llamas. | ||
| He had a fight with, was it Bermudez? | ||
| Who was the fight he had scheduled with? | ||
| In LA, remember? | ||
| It wasn't Dennis Bermudez. | ||
| It wasn't Bermudez. | ||
| No, it wasn't Bermudez. | ||
| It was someone he had a fight scheduled with. | ||
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Nick Lentz? | |
| No, it wasn't Nick Lentz because Nick Lentz is fighting at 155. There was some fight that got cancelled because BJ had taken an IV to rehydrate himself. | ||
| That was on the LA card, remember? | ||
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| What was the fight? | ||
| Goddammit, who was it? | ||
| Anyway, so they had to give him another fight, and so the other fight they gave him is llamas. | ||
| Which is a tough fight for anybody. | ||
| They threw him to the fucking... | ||
| 145. I mean, it's BJ Penn, what are you going to do, but still... | ||
| Apparently, his fighting stance is back to the old BJ, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, he went to Winklejohn, you know, in Brandon Gibson. | ||
| Is he there now? | ||
| Yeah, he's been training at Jackson's. | ||
| Here it goes. | ||
| What does it say? | ||
| Cole Miller at 199. Oh, Cole Miller. | ||
| See, Cole Miller's a real good fight. | ||
| That's a real good fight, too. | ||
| That's a real good fight. | ||
| Did he listen, man? | ||
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| He went to... | ||
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Remember, people would say, what if BJ went to, like, Jackson? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| What would happen then? | ||
| And he actually did it. | ||
| How cool is that? | ||
| He's BJ fucking Penn. | ||
| Don't ever forget that. | ||
| If that guy's body is willing, and he can figure out a way to motivate himself into awesome shape again, he is BJ motherfucking Penn. | ||
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He's the prodigy. | |
| I think he should just focus on using his striking to take people down and just take him to the ground. | ||
| I think he's still one of the best on the ground. | ||
| You know who I don't want to see fight again? | ||
| And I hope for whatever reason contractual it doesn't happen is GSP, man. | ||
| His last like three or four fights he took so many hits to the head. | ||
| He has money in the bank. | ||
| The 70 pound division has completely changed now. | ||
| I just don't want to see it. | ||
| Maybe he's bored. | ||
| Yeah, he must be bored as fuck making like Kickboxer 2 and shit. | ||
| Yeah, and he did something with Seagal where Seagal kills him in some movie. | ||
| That would make me want to fucking get back to anything I was doing. | ||
| That video of Seagal with that, he's not been missing any meals. | ||
| Oh, he's so big now. | ||
| He's so big. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| He would fuck you guys. | ||
| He's this giant barrel of a chest. | ||
| He's got to be 100 pounds overweight. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's really weird. | ||
| Because if you go back to Hard to Kill, like this first movie... | ||
| He's very thin. | ||
| Oh my god, he looked awesome. | ||
| I used to like him, man. | ||
| Under Siege 1 and 2? | ||
| Watch your mouth. | ||
| Plus he did a bunch of weird stuff that nobody had ever seen before. | ||
| A bunch of smacking... | ||
| It's like, if you go and watch Steven Seagal's earliest movie... | ||
| It was Hard to Kill, right? | ||
| No. | ||
| No, it was Justice. | ||
| Above the Law? | ||
| Above the Law, yeah. | ||
| Justice. | ||
| Above the Law is his first one. | ||
| It's fun to watch his fight scenes. | ||
| You're like, I'm kind of feeling this. | ||
| I feel like he could maybe pull this off. | ||
| You know? | ||
| He's kind of doing like Wing Chun, but he's smacking some fucking clotheslines on people and sweeping them off their feet and snapping arms and shit. | ||
| I think he's actually kind of a good actor, too. | ||
| Under Siege 1 and 2 is fucking brilliant. | ||
| Hard to Kill was great. | ||
| Who'd his face in 88? | ||
| In 88 above the law. | ||
| Handsome dude. | ||
| Dime piece in Hard to Kill. | ||
| And he was only probably 30 years old back then. | ||
| In that ponytail? | ||
| He had been teaching... | ||
| Aikido in Japan. | ||
| He was the first American to run a dojo in Japan. | ||
| Well, that's been contested. | ||
| Shut the fuck up, Brian. | ||
| Why are you ruining... | ||
| Sorry, buddy. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| Look at him back then. | ||
| Look at the body. | ||
| Look at that knife. | ||
| But that's a body of a guy who actually knows martial arts. | ||
| Have you guys heard of that new Jean-Claude Van Damme show called Jean-Claude Van Johnson? | ||
| He plays himself. | ||
| Van Johnson? | ||
| You're talking about the reality show? | ||
| Dave Callahan wrote that. | ||
| My student who wrote Godzilla. | ||
| He has a show now. | ||
| It's on Amazon. | ||
| I don't even know, but Tate's in it too. | ||
| Really? | ||
| It's called Jean-Claude Van Johnson. | ||
| It's about Jean-Claude Van Damme is in it. | ||
| He plays himself. | ||
| And he's like this, like, washed up actor. | ||
| Like, he's just himself. | ||
| So it's a story about Jean-Claude Van Damme and he's playing himself but making fun of, like a parody? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's kind of like that movie. | ||
| Goddamn times are rough. | ||
| I refuse to watch it. | ||
| I love Jean-Claude Van Damme. | ||
| It's supposed to be funny as shit. | ||
| Nope, can't do it. | ||
| Can't do it. | ||
| I remember him from Bloodsport. | ||
| Powerful Josh Barnett. | ||
| Still swinging. | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| That's a terrible picture. | ||
| Still throwing leather. | ||
| Tough fight to call, man. | ||
| Two vets. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| USADA testing. | ||
| Germany. | ||
| Well, I mean, who would have ever predicted that Orlovsky would have gotten that close to a title shot again? | ||
| After all those years out, after getting starched by Sergei Karotanov, after getting beaten down by Rumble Johnson, to come back from all that, get back into the UFC and work his way to the top four... | ||
| Like, what? | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| How the fuck did he do that? | ||
| Went to Jackson's, got on a huge four or five fight win streak. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| I mean, it's amazing. | ||
| When, like, a lot of people thought the Keratonoff fight, like, they're like, someone's got to step in. | ||
| Someone's got to stop this. | ||
| It's amazing the difference between his nose now and when he first started fighting. | ||
| Dude, do you know how many times this guy's been knocked out? | ||
| Like, if you really, like, went over, like, his entire career, I would like to find out. | ||
| Well, between him and Overeem, it's a goddamn... | ||
| And in training, I wonder. | ||
| Yeah, Overeem's had a lot of stoppage losses. | ||
| Overeem's had more than anyone. | ||
| Yeah, well, all the kickboxing losses, MMA losses, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| A lot of these guys have been stopped a lot of times. | ||
| Andre's slim for this one. | ||
| He was like 136. Wow, his nose is flattened. | ||
| Look at his nose. | ||
| I know. | ||
| That's a guy who's been in some wars, man. | ||
| Who's been in as many slugfests as Arlovsky? | ||
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| Barnett. | ||
| Barnett has, yeah. | ||
| I mean, they're close. | ||
| But Andre's almost always in slugfests because he's a striker. | ||
| You know, he's not like trying to take someone down. | ||
| Has Josh Barnett been knocked out? | ||
| Yeah, he got knocked out. | ||
| Travis Brown elbows to the back of the head. | ||
| Yeah, real bad. | ||
| Before that, though, he has for sure. | ||
| And Rothwell just choked him out. | ||
| Rothwell caught him with that crazy ten-finger go-go guillotine. | ||
| Whatever he calls it, go-go guillotine, go-go choke. | ||
| There's so many different ways to put on that guillotine and they're all secretive because you can never see the grip and everyone has a certain way they hold the grip. | ||
| It's a hidden grip. | ||
| There's probably 13 different, at least, guillotines. | ||
| Orlovsky went old school with this pregame fight interview too. | ||
| He was talking about how when he was the UFC champ, Barnett was in pride saying how Orlovsky wasn't the real champ. | ||
| He was. | ||
| Yeah, but Josh Barnett was never the champ of pride. | ||
| 15 years ago. | ||
| I know, but he was a runner-up. | ||
| When they were asking Barnett back then, he was like, UFC champ doesn't really count. | ||
| Orlowski's not the real champ. | ||
| Orlowski brought that shit back like an old elephant and didn't forget. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| He was like, excuse me, sir? | ||
| That was 20 years ago. | ||
| Like an old elephant. | ||
| Like an old Belarusian elephant. | ||
| It's another one. | ||
| If you look at him, he's 37. That's amazing that he was elite in the UFC in his early, early 20s. | ||
| And Josh Barnett's the youngest heavyweight champion ever. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| When he beat Randy Couture, he became the youngest ever UFC heavyweight champion. | ||
| But then... | ||
| Didn't he get stripped? | ||
| He got stripped. | ||
| He pissed hot. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He pissed hot shit between him and over him. | ||
| It's a goddamn... | ||
| It's a goddamn MLB in the glory days. | ||
| Martin McGuire, Barry Bonds. | ||
| Two badasses, but they'll piss hot. | ||
| It would be interesting if Bellator just becomes like a P.E.D. league. | ||
| You mean pride? | ||
| Yeah, just P.E.D. league. | ||
| Just let him do whatever the fuck they want. | ||
| Well, Scott Coker said that. | ||
| He's like, our walkouts, we try to mimic pride. | ||
| I'm like, yeah, for sure. | ||
| Just let guys juice to the gill and do that. | ||
| Do you hate money, Mr. Coker? | ||
| Get some dry ice smoke. | ||
| Let him juice to the gills. | ||
| I mean, someone's got to explain to me Bobby Lashley. | ||
| Explain what? | ||
| Explain what's going on there. | ||
| How's that possible? | ||
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Why? | |
| Can I see a picture, please? | ||
| You want to see Bobby Lashley B? Yeah, he's a very strong, powerful wrestler that is the cover boy for the smell test. | ||
| Well, that's the craziest shit I've ever seen in my life. | ||
| That is so ridiculous. | ||
| He's a tank. | ||
| Now, does he moonlight as a bodybuilder? | ||
| No, he used to be a WWE guy. | ||
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He still is. | |
| Look at that. | ||
| Yeah, that's natural. | ||
| Those traps are all natural. | ||
| Is he fighting in Bellator looking like that? | ||
| Yep, yes. | ||
| Huh. | ||
| Yeah, show a picture of him in Bellator. | ||
| That's a lot of Dolce Weh. | ||
| Is he taking a lot of Dolce Weh? | ||
| Look at that picture of him. | ||
| Legit wrestler, though. | ||
| Look at him there in Bellator. | ||
| Look at the size of him in Bellator. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, now listen. | ||
| I mean, some people are just born super muscular. | ||
| But he only fights in funky places like Oklahoma, Indian casinos and shit. | ||
| Look at the size of them. | ||
| That's the craziest shit I've ever seen. | ||
| Look at the fucking size of them! | ||
| Hey, this is the thing. | ||
| The nicest guy in the world, obviously on some Mexican supplements, motherfucker can wrestle his ass off. | ||
| He's a monster. | ||
| Yeah, I can believe it. | ||
| Looking at him, I wouldn't say he's an accountant. | ||
| I would say he's a wrestler. | ||
| No, no, but it's not like CM Punk wrestling. | ||
| He has a legit wrestling background. | ||
| I believe that. | ||
| Yeah, in the military, he's champ. | ||
| And he's had a lot of fights. | ||
| I mean, he fought in Showtime for a while. | ||
| He's only had, I think, like eight or nine. | ||
| He's not that active. | ||
| Well, he fought in Strikeforce and lost to Chad Griggs, remember? | ||
| The Gravedigger? | ||
| Yeah, that's right. | ||
| The Gravedigger. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that was a big setback for him. | ||
| Had to get his shit together again. | ||
| Start all over again. | ||
| Josh Barnett's body is an interesting... | ||
| You know who his training partner is? | ||
| Josh Barnett? | ||
| Bobby Lashley and Barnett train together all the time. | ||
| Makes sense. | ||
| Never seen Bobby Lashley taken out. | ||
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Ever. | |
| Okay, prediction. | ||
| Arlovsky. | ||
| Barnett. | ||
| Barnett looks bigger than Arlowski. | ||
| That's a big man. | ||
| They're both giant. | ||
|
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Yep. | |
| Barnett's heavier. | ||
| Arlowski's in better shape, I would assume. | ||
| But, uh... | ||
| Barnett's got a lot of options. | ||
| Yeah, Barnett, he's like a smart guy. | ||
| He has too many options. | ||
| He has a lot of options. | ||
| And Arlowski, his only option is to knock him out. | ||
| Oh, he tagged him! | ||
| Barnett with a right hand over the top. | ||
| Oh! | ||
|
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Oh, shit! | |
| What's going on here? | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Hey, guys. | ||
| Oh! | ||
| What the fuck? | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Are we all out of our minds here? | ||
| Couple one-two oldies fucking slaying in the mood. | ||
| Guys, Barnett just took a big deep breath. | ||
| And by oldies, 12 years younger than me and Joe. | ||
| Barnett is saying something. | ||
| Barnett is saying something. | ||
| What is he saying? | ||
| Was he grabbing my gloves? | ||
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I don't know. | |
| He's saying he's grabbing my gloves. | ||
| He's grabbing my gloves. | ||
| Oh, is that what he's saying? | ||
| I think so. | ||
| Wow, man. | ||
| And the ref said, let's shut up and fight. | ||
| I think that's what he said. | ||
| Did he say that? | ||
| Shut up and fight? | ||
| I don't think he said shut up. | ||
| He said, let's just fight. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Holy fuck, these boys ain't messing around. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| When Arlossi does do this, he's usually at his best. | ||
| Like when you think about Travis Brown, we just caution him the wind. | ||
| Yeah, but Barnett is good at controlling the pace here when he gets a hold of you like this. | ||
| This is going to sap some of the strength. | ||
| He's got such wide hips, he's just so strong. | ||
| He's a tank of a guy. | ||
| Super skilled too, man. | ||
| Oh, caught him on the break. | ||
| Ooh, someone's about to get knocked out. | ||
| Get ready, boys. | ||
| Oh, Jesus. | ||
| Marlowski's bleeding hardcore. | ||
| What a tough way to make a living. | ||
| Big right hand coming from Marlowski. | ||
| What a tough way to make a living. | ||
|
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Oh, Jesus. | |
| Oh. | ||
| Don't listen to that. | ||
| Left hook from Barnett coming up. | ||
| This is intense. | ||
| Someone's going to sleep real soon. | ||
|
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Oh. | |
| Damn, attack that body. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| There's like a... | ||
| There's like a weird way that Arlovsky throws his right hand. | ||
| Have you noticed that? | ||
| Almost like a whipping action from the hips. | ||
| He doesn't throw it the way he threw it when he was young. | ||
| No, not at all. | ||
| Arlovsky painted his nails. | ||
| Arlovsky painted his toenails. | ||
| Shut the fuck up. | ||
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I won't. | |
| Look at that. | ||
| Don't bring it up. | ||
| Sorry, sorry. | ||
| He's a warlock. | ||
| He's a fucking warlock and I knew it. | ||
| That's what a bad motherfucker Chuck Liddell is. | ||
| He had everybody painting their goddamn toenails. | ||
| He really did. | ||
| And no one said shit. | ||
| I'm not saying shit. | ||
| I just made an observation. | ||
| They all wind up doing it. | ||
| He sacrificed a goat to Satan last night, and that's why he had... | ||
| Erlowski with the takedown! | ||
| Look at this! | ||
| Erlowski with the takedown! | ||
| See, I like Erlowski putting Barnett on his back. | ||
| Barnett's not a guy who parties off his back very much. | ||
| He doesn't party off his back, guys. | ||
| He doesn't. | ||
| I wonder. | ||
| Only on top. | ||
| I wonder if he's got some shit off his back. | ||
| I mean, I'm sure he's capable. | ||
| Uh-oh, watch that! | ||
| Come on, son. | ||
| He went for a double wrist lock from the bottom. | ||
| I went for that bully beatdown double wrist lock. | ||
| I wonder what he was going to do there with that. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Look at the blood coming down. | ||
| He doesn't care. | ||
| That's a headbutt blood. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
| Give me a charley horse. | ||
| This is an interesting fight, man. | ||
| Hold that ankle. | ||
| Hold that ankle. | ||
| This is an interesting fight. | ||
| Barnett on his back. | ||
| Arloski needs to watch his legs here. | ||
| Can you just punch him in the dick? | ||
| He needs to watch his legs here, man. | ||
| If there's one thing Barnett does know, it's fucking leg locks down here. | ||
| I think you forget the Sambo background of Andre Arlovski. | ||
| I didn't. | ||
| Remember when he got, what's his name, Tim Sylvia in that, uh... | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| Got him in a straight ankle lock. | ||
| I think you forget about that fucking... | ||
| Dude, I think Josh Barnett just played a little De La Riva guard for one split second. | ||
| Like, watch. | ||
| Barnett is thicker than a Snickers right now. | ||
| Just a vanilla Snickers. | ||
| Doing the damn thing. | ||
| Big man. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| And their bolster skin. | ||
| This is the veteran. | ||
| Let's rest. | ||
| You rest, I rest. | ||
| Oh, is that what it is? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Yeah, that's the veteran. | ||
|
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I'm going to rest. | |
| You rest. | ||
|
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I like it. | |
| I like it. | ||
| Couple one-two old butts. | ||
| Keep the hands up, please. | ||
| Somebody? | ||
| All of you? | ||
| Barnett looks tired. | ||
| I mean, uh... | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| These guys just clash heads, man. | ||
| Gigantesque. | ||
| Gigante, man. | ||
| Oh! | ||
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Combination by Arlovsky. | |
| Josh Barnett's so tough though. | ||
| He looks fine. | ||
| Josh Barnett looks fine. | ||
| Someone's going to sleep! | ||
| Barnett switched stances. | ||
| Was he standing orthodox earlier? | ||
| He was, right? | ||
| Yeah, he switches. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| I wonder... | ||
| Does Orlowski always have black nail polish? | ||
| No. | ||
| First time. | ||
| Get over it, bro. | ||
| It's a great fight. | ||
| Fuck his nail polish. | ||
| Bro, I'm just saying, man. | ||
| I'm allowed to make an observation. | ||
| God, you're white, Josh. | ||
| Let's get a tan. | ||
| You're whiter than I am. | ||
| No, you can't tan. | ||
| That would look weird on him. | ||
| He'd look pink. | ||
| He just turns pink, right? | ||
| He'd be red. | ||
| He'd get all red. | ||
| Come out there like a red fucking pickle. | ||
| Yeah, a fucking giant pickle. | ||
| A red pickle? | ||
| I don't know why I even said pickle. | ||
| Like a lobster. | ||
| Yeah, you big fucking blonde lobster. | ||
| Josh is giving up the neck. | ||
| He's like, go ahead, take it. | ||
| Yeah, our lobster's not known for those. | ||
| Want to get crazy? | ||
| Pull the guillotine off. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| I would never think that Josh would lean in on anybody like that ever again after that Travis Brown fight. | ||
| Well, the thing about that is Travis is so good at him because of his leverage, how tall he is. | ||
| Oh, Jesus! | ||
| Oh my goodness. | ||
| I mean, flash knockouts on both ends here. | ||
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Oof! | |
| Great takedown. | ||
| I think Travis is the only one who can pull off those elbows because he's so tall. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| Well, he's also just explosive as fuck with them in that position. | ||
| That's his spot. | ||
| He did it to Gonzaga and then he did it to Barnett. | ||
|
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Yo. | |
| You're on the air. | ||
| We're doing the Fight Companion. | ||
|
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Already? | |
| Joe Diaz! | ||
| Well, Joey, it's like one, two. | ||
| You're not watching the UFC on Fight Pass? | ||
|
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No, I'm doing my own UFC. I just got back to Jiu-Jitsu, bitch. | |
| Fuck Fight Pass. | ||
| I just did my own. | ||
| I got choked out eight times. | ||
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I just did my own fucking Jiu-Jitsu. | |
| Beautiful. | ||
| I just got Luke Barnett. | ||
| Everybody choked me out today. | ||
| Nice. | ||
| We're at Legacy? | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| I did a little better today, to be honest with you. | ||
| Round two. | ||
| Dude, after a minute rest. | ||
|
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I did a little better today. | |
| Hey, the fight's... | ||
| Oh! | ||
| You've got to watch that overhand right. | ||
| Keep telling Orlovsky that. | ||
|
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All right, do your thing. | |
| I'm sorry, brother. | ||
| I saw you call me earlier. | ||
| You know I love you. | ||
| Okay, I'll call you right back. | ||
| Keep your head in his chin. | ||
| When I teach clinch, I always say, use your fucking head, spear the chin. | ||
| When you what? | ||
| Huh? | ||
| When I do a clinch clinic, I call it the clinch clinic with the kid. | ||
| Nobody ever comes, but if somebody did, I would always say, use your head. | ||
| I cannot get anybody to fucking come, and I have something to say. | ||
| He puts on a message board. | ||
| There's going to be a clinch clinic with the kid. | ||
| Piece of paper with a bunch of things you can rip off that have the phone number on. | ||
| Just one ripped off and he ripped it off himself. | ||
| I put it up on phone polls. | ||
| I put it up on phone polls. | ||
| And nobody calls. | ||
| Nobody calls. | ||
| I can't get anybody in my fucking clinics, man. | ||
| I have cupcakes and Kool-Aid for everybody. | ||
| How's this not a five-rounder? | ||
| Right, Brendan? | ||
| Because they're old. | ||
| I don't give a fuck! | ||
| Isn't every main event five rounds? | ||
| Is it a five-rounder? | ||
| It might be. | ||
| Oh, it is. | ||
| It is. | ||
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Sorry. | |
| The fucking reindeer thing was blocking on us all three. | ||
| The reindeer thing. | ||
| Did you guys see that thing where those fucking reindeer, 300 of them... | ||
| Got electrocuted to death. | ||
| Was it 300 of them? | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| Is that how many it was? | ||
| What? | ||
| Why do I want to say it's 40? | ||
| Oh, you've got to keep your hands up. | ||
| 323? | ||
| 323 reindeer got electrocuted to death. | ||
| They were all standing in water. | ||
| Lightning hit the ground. | ||
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What? | |
| The ground was soaked with water, so they all got barbecued instantly. | ||
| No. | ||
| Instantly. | ||
| Dude. | ||
| Boy, these boys are throwing. | ||
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Hundreds of them. | |
| Those poor fucking reindeer. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Oh, fuck. | ||
|
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It was harp. | |
| So can you just go there and eat them? | ||
| Can you go there and eat them? | ||
| Well, it depends on how cold it is. | ||
| You know, if it was right afterwards, yeah, definitely. | ||
| So that could have happened to us when we were hunting, technically. | ||
| It technically could happen, yeah. | ||
| Because the ground's all wet. | ||
| So it's connective. | ||
| So this shit shouldn't be happening all the time. | ||
| It could happen. | ||
| Well, we got rubber boots on, though. | ||
| Yeah, we have rubber boots on, and also we're not fucking reindeer. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| God likes me more than he likes reindeers. | ||
| They're called caribou. | ||
| I call them caribou. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| They're delicious animals. | ||
| If you were there and you came right after the fact, you'd be psyched. | ||
| Because you'd have all the meat. | ||
| You wouldn't want it to go to waste. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| So it's not even like you feel bad for shooting the caribou. | ||
| If you're starving in the wilderness. | ||
| When you post those Instagram videos of grilling that fine, fine, wild meat, I gotta get hungry. | ||
| It's my favorite thing to cook. | ||
| I'm starving right now. | ||
| I cooked some last night. | ||
| I will say that one you did with the jalapenos. | ||
| Yeah, that's my shit, dog. | ||
| Dude, I'm telling you, I know you're scared of... | ||
| Eddie grew up with a fucked up stepfather, so he's got some crazy food issues because his stepdad used to force him to eat food. | ||
| So Eddie's like, meat, potatoes, stop! | ||
| Don't get crazy! | ||
| You don't eat meat or potatoes? | ||
| No, no, he's super down the middle. | ||
| I don't like gamey meat. | ||
| That's how my brother is. | ||
| Elk is not gamey. | ||
| That's the thing, man. | ||
| I'm telling you. | ||
| It's like if you like Fogo de Chao, you like when they come over, it doesn't taste like that because it's got more firmness to it. | ||
| Oh, good reversal by Barnett! | ||
| It's on now. | ||
| Oh, this is not good. | ||
| This is not good for Arlovsky. | ||
| This is terrible. | ||
| Barnett is a smusher. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Instant pass. | ||
| Full mount. | ||
| Grapevine. | ||
| Old school. | ||
| Catch wrestling style. | ||
| We call that the Saturday Night Live Ride. | ||
| We call it the Saturday Night Ride. | ||
| Yeah, you gotta call it one of the other. | ||
| You can't call it... | ||
| Alright. | ||
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Skydive. | |
| We call it staying alive. | ||
| Boy, if he can last a minute, he's gonna be gassed. | ||
| He's got it for a minute. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know about all that. | ||
| That's a tough call, B. He might get smushed here, dude. | ||
| Just hold on. | ||
| He's looking for the arm triangle on that right arm. | ||
| Or the Americana. | ||
| Did you say just hold on to him, B? Yeah, just hold on to him. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, for sure. | ||
| Well, Josh Barnett will put a beating on you in that fucking mount position, too. | ||
| He's an expert at maneuvering. | ||
| Getting you in bad spots, you know, anticipating your defense and dropping those short palm-to-elbow elbows down on you, those press-down, you know, Jeremy Horn-style elbows. | ||
| He also has a great head-arm choke here that he does. | ||
| Jeremy Horn was like one of the first guys that really was teaching that. | ||
| Oh, he's cutting him up. | ||
| Oh, he's smashing him. | ||
| 40 seconds to go. | ||
| Man, he's got to finish him. | ||
| He's nasty. | ||
| He's looking for that arm. | ||
| He's looking to straighten those arms out. | ||
| But Arlovski's got fairly good defense, but not right here. | ||
| Come on, Andre. | ||
| Don't turn to his back. | ||
| 30 seconds. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| He's getting beat on. | ||
| Oh, Jesus Christ. | ||
| It's not enough to stop it, though, is it? | ||
| Yeah, but he's getting smashed. | ||
| Andre, he's going to be fucked when he gets on. | ||
| It's over. | ||
| He's beating on him, man. | ||
| Now it's over. | ||
| Oh, it's flat. | ||
| You got time. | ||
| Now it's over. | ||
| He's going to sink it in. | ||
| Josh Barnett. | ||
| Oh! | ||
| There it goes. | ||
| Oh, he's gonna survive! | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| Yes, yes. | ||
| Oh hell yeah, he's surviving. | ||
| It's over. | ||
| It's over. | ||
| They're not gonna stop it. | ||
| Oh, he got it. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Wow. | ||
| Dude, what a beating. | ||
| He took a ferocious beating. | ||
| Morlowski's in trouble. | ||
| Like, getting up, he's gotta be reeling right now. | ||
| I mean, his face is smushed. | ||
| And he's tired as fuck. | ||
| It has to be, man. | ||
| He just exploded for survival for the last minute. | ||
| The last minute was just a crazy swim to shore with sharks biting your asshole. | ||
| Is that Winklejohn right there? | ||
| And then you gotta go back out there. | ||
| Mike Winklejohn is the guy to his left. | ||
| Like right in front of Orlovsky. | ||
| That's Mike. | ||
| And that's Greg Jackson. | ||
| Been here a bunch of times. | ||
| That's not good. | ||
| You've been here 100 times. | ||
| Well, I'm literally on the brink of dying. | ||
| You start thinking about... | ||
| Where do either of these guys go from here? | ||
| I guess they're both. | ||
| They're both in the mix. | ||
| Yeah, heavyweight division's pretty old. | ||
| Could take down Barlovsky, but he got reversed. | ||
| Watch this. | ||
| Yeah, the momentum. | ||
| Man. | ||
| Mounted way easy. | ||
| Yeah, that's not what you want. | ||
| Oh my God. | ||
| Barnett just dropping bombs down on him. | ||
| Super accurate. | ||
| Josh Barnett is no joke, man. | ||
| Come on, Andre. | ||
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Come on. | |
| Look at this. | ||
| And Barnett also can keep up this pace for five rounds. | ||
| He fought Roy Nelson and gave Roy Nelson a beating like that for five rounds. | ||
| Yeah, he did. | ||
| That was super impressive. | ||
| He's just such a vet, man. | ||
| He's seen it all. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Well, he's also just so fucking tough. | ||
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Durable. | |
| And has so many fucking tricks. | ||
| But Arlowski's still got the bomb, man. | ||
| He's still got the bomb in his hand. | ||
| Look at him. | ||
| He's trying to set it up. | ||
| I don't think that landed. | ||
| Dude, it's weird the way he throws that right hand. | ||
| It's like his elbows down, his shoulders up, and he like whips it. | ||
| It's almost like he doesn't throw it straight anymore. | ||
| See what I'm saying? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He throws that kick and he's getting caught. | ||
| That's the second time he's gotten caught. | ||
| But it's like he's throwing it with his body, and then the arm is sort of following behind it. | ||
| It's like whipping. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| They're so tired, these guys are kind of... | ||
| I would like... | ||
| Oh, man! | ||
| Right hand! | ||
| Barnett! | ||
|
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Oh! | |
| Barlovsky! | ||
| Barlovsky is a stud! | ||
| These guys are amazing! | ||
|
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Oh, nice knee to the body! | |
| He hurt him with that knee to the body! | ||
| No, he poked him in the eye. | ||
| Oh, he poked him in the eye. | ||
| Well, the ref didn't see it. | ||
| Barnett knows better than that to stop it. | ||
| Oh shit, and he's whooping his ass. | ||
| Oh my god, this is an amazing fight. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| Orlovsky said, enjoy your win with one fucking eye. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Give it up! | ||
| Orlovsky gets behind him. | ||
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Get out! | |
| Kimura! | ||
|
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Kimura! | |
| Orlovsky needs to stop this shit. | ||
| He keeps trying to grapple. | ||
| Double wrist lock. | ||
| Double wrist lock. | ||
| Goddammit. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Flipped him. | ||
| Now you need charm ripped off. | ||
| Now you need charm ripped off. | ||
| He's fucked! | ||
| He's super fucked. | ||
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Damn it. | |
| This is Barnett all fucking day long. | ||
| This is his world. | ||
| I mean, this dude submitted Dean Lister, Huron Gracie. | ||
| Huron, yes. | ||
| Easily. | ||
| That is a big feat, man. | ||
| Huge. | ||
| It's over right here. | ||
| This is not good. | ||
|
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Oh! | |
| Shit! | ||
| Dude, this is a fight. | ||
| It's still over. | ||
| This is an amazing fight. | ||
| It's still over. | ||
| There's no way Orlovsky's going to get up here. | ||
| It's still over. | ||
| He's going for the Kimura again. | ||
| Orlovsky's a warlock, so he's got those powers. | ||
| He's going for it again. | ||
| He doesn't have much room, though. | ||
| Barnett, upset that it got away, man. | ||
| He's going to make a big point to try to get it out. | ||
| If you're Arlowski, quit fucking trying to grapple with him. | ||
| Oh, he's elbowing him, too. | ||
| He's going to open it up with elbows. | ||
| Barnett's so nasty. | ||
| A little tenderizing. | ||
| Barnett's so nasty. | ||
| Do you remember that time when Arlovsky was on the ground and Roy Nelson had him inside control with a double wrist lock, locked in, and they stood him up in Elite XC, that crooked-ass organization? | ||
| Remember that? | ||
| Hell yeah, I do. | ||
| And then Arlovsky went around. | ||
| Oh, no! | ||
| No way he's going to survive this. | ||
| Oh, two minutes and 20 seconds. | ||
| He's still in the mouth, though. | ||
| Well, that's not good. | ||
| This is not good, gentlemen. | ||
| No, this is not good. | ||
| He's giving up the back. | ||
| He's going to get choked out. | ||
| Yeah, he's giving up the back. | ||
| Josh's flattened him out. | ||
| He's flattened him out. | ||
| He's getting the neck. | ||
| That's it! | ||
| Josh motherfucking Barnett, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| Two warriors, man. | ||
| Two legends. | ||
| Goddamn. | ||
| If I was Brennan Schaub, I'd say, for sure get off me before you congratulate me. | ||
| Yeah, for sure get the fuck out of here, man. | ||
| Let's do this when we get up, huh? | ||
| For sure we can do this friendship shit when you're not mounting me. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| You've got great cardio. | ||
|
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Fuck, yes. | |
| You would never think so, but man, he... | ||
| God, is he good. | ||
| Goddamn, that was a good fight. | ||
| Tough as nails, man. | ||
| Fuck. | ||
| Josh Brennan is tough as nails. | ||
| Tough as nails. | ||
| That was a goddamn war. | ||
| Woo! | ||
| What a fight. | ||
| And, you know, all due respect, he doesn't seem... | ||
| He's got great cardio. | ||
| He doesn't... | ||
| If you looked at his body physically, he doesn't look like he's in that good of shape. | ||
|
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What? | |
| Good Lord. | ||
| Josh Barnett? | ||
| Come on. | ||
| He's always... | ||
| You're talking about a legend. | ||
| I know he is. | ||
| I'm just saying. | ||
| Don't judge a book by its cover, Brendan. | ||
| Look at Fedor. | ||
| I've always said that. | ||
| Look at Fedor. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| God, he's amazing. | ||
|
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Boom! | |
| Oh, no. | ||
| And still took it. | ||
| He had his hand. | ||
| Barnett fucked him up after this. | ||
| He went, oh, you want to poke me in the fucking eye? | ||
| Check this out. | ||
| See, this is our lossy loss to fight there. | ||
| Why did the ref stop that eye poke thing? | ||
| That was weird. | ||
| Didn't see it. | ||
| You didn't see it. | ||
| When they're looking at certain things, you know, and they miss little stuff like that, it's so hard to stop and reset. | ||
| Because you also stop the momentum of the fight. | ||
| And sometimes a guy gets punched in the eye. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And they'll reel away as if they got poked, but if you're watching the replay, it's just the knuckle. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Like Chuck Liddell used to get guys all the time, and he would throw these wild, crazy punches. | ||
| He would, because of the way the wraps are, and because of the way the gloves are, sometimes when Chuck is punching you, he's hitting you like this. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So these are going in your eyes. | ||
| You can't stop it because of that. | ||
| I mean, he's just dropping bombs on you and sometimes they don't land perfectly with the knuckle. | ||
| Or sometimes even with the knuckle. | ||
| The knuckle goes into your eye. | ||
| But these things right here, these are not covered. | ||
| So if you're slinging and you catch someone like this and it goes in the eye, it feels just like a poke. | ||
| Definitely can't stop it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Probably Dan Hardy. | ||
| Look at him. | ||
| He looks like an Englishman. | ||
| Dude, did you see Bruce Buffer's fucking white tux? | ||
| No, he had a white tux? | ||
| That's some Germany shit. | ||
| That's that foreign shit. | ||
| Don't bring that hair. | ||
| Oh, it shouldn't? | ||
| No. | ||
| No, can't have that hair. | ||
| How come? | ||
| We just can't. | ||
| We just can't do it. | ||
| Dan Hardy, those aren't jeans. | ||
| Powerful, powerful Josh Barnett. | ||
| We went for the finish every time. | ||
| I know we slowed down, but... | ||
| We went for the finish every time. | ||
| So, please give it up for Andre Olowski. | ||
| Give it up for Andre Olowski. | ||
| Damn right. | ||
| Damn right. | ||
| That's a great sportsman. | ||
| This is a crazy division. | ||
| It's going to be opened up next week. | ||
| We're going to find out what the hell's going on. | ||
| Because if Stipe can defend the title, you know, you've got a real champion on your hands. | ||
| And if Overeem could beat him, things get very, very interesting. | ||
| Look at how we put the choke on. | ||
| Look at the grip. | ||
| Then you've got Verdum Travis Brown again. | ||
| He smushed it. | ||
| He, like, punched at it. | ||
| He went like this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Interesting, huh? | ||
| Well, he's a real artist when it comes to submissions. | ||
| Josh Barnett knows his shit. | ||
| There's some big-ass fights coming up, dude. | ||
| Some big-ass fights coming up. | ||
| If you would have hit his face, it would have been different. | ||
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Boom! | |
| Oh, that's so fucked up, man. | ||
| But that's something when you see a guy turning away holding his eye like that. | ||
| Go ahead and punch him in the face. | ||
| Jamie, what's the card next weekend? | ||
| You got the heavyweights, right? | ||
| So you got Stipe, Overeem, Verdum, Travis Brown rematch. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I didn't know until today, just now, that Stipe, Overeem was September 10th. | ||
| I thought it was today. | ||
| I've been really excited about it. | ||
| You thought it was on Fight Pass? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Why did you think it was today? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Just did. | ||
| So you're upset? | ||
| I'm a little upset right now. | ||
| You thought it was next on Fight Pass? | ||
| So Stipe, Alistair, look at this. | ||
| Verdum and Travis Brown, very interesting. | ||
| What was the original fight? | ||
| Was this the original fight they had played? | ||
| No, Fabrizio was supposed to fight... | ||
| God, who pulled out? | ||
| Who the fuck pulled out? | ||
| Travis Brown was a late replacement. | ||
| Oh, Rothwell pulled out. | ||
| Oh, did he? | ||
| Oh, that's right. | ||
| He pulled out. | ||
| Brown got back in, right? | ||
| Because he just got his face kicked off by Kane. | ||
| So he came back in for this rematch. | ||
| Man, Travis Brown's in a tough spot. | ||
| He loses this one. | ||
| Better get Rhonda pregnant. | ||
| How fairly short is the notice? | ||
| Not that short, right? | ||
| Like four or five weeks. | ||
| But it's pretty recent since the fight with Kane. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| That's why it's tough to get back in there. | ||
| He got that spinning wheel kick. | ||
| Yeah, it was tough. | ||
| What's next for Kane? | ||
| That's a good question. | ||
| Probably a title fight, I would imagine. | ||
| Look at that CM Punk versus Mickey Galls. | ||
| The third fight of the night. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| That is before Faber and... | ||
| Yeah, it's after Faber. | ||
| Yes, sorry. | ||
| Favoring Jimmy Rivera, which is an interesting fight, man. | ||
| Jimmy Rivera's a tank. | ||
| Super tough fight for you. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He always wins, though, doesn't he? | ||
| Well, he wins a lot. | ||
| Besides the title. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, the Dominic Cruz fight was, you know, he got dropped in that fight a couple of times and got hurt, which is interesting. | ||
| I'll tell you, the fight I want to see is Steve versus Kane. | ||
| That's the fight. | ||
| Match-up-wise, it's such a fun fight. | ||
| Very similar styles. | ||
| Hey, what's going on with Tysimov? | ||
| He can't get into the country? | ||
| Yeah, I don't think so. | ||
| That's what I've heard. | ||
| That giant wrestler you're talking about? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| He's not a giant guy. | ||
| He's a 155er. | ||
| Was he 45 or 55? | ||
| Who is he supposed to be fighting? | ||
| Uh, 55. Right, Jamie? | ||
| Look that up. | ||
| Who is Landsberg? | ||
| Cyborg's fighting Nick Lentz. | ||
| Yeah, he's fighting Nick Lentz. | ||
| And Nick Lentz has been fighting 55. Damn. | ||
| Who is Landsberg? | ||
| Lineker versus Dodson is crazy! | ||
| That is goddamn crazy. | ||
| October 1st, Portland, Oregon. | ||
| That is madness. | ||
| Lineker's the fucking truth, right? | ||
| Who's the poor soul-fighting Cyborg? | ||
| Holy shit! | ||
| His name is Landsberg. | ||
| Who's the body back fighting fucking cyborg in Brazil? | ||
| She looks like a swimsuit model. | ||
| In Brasilia, Brazil. | ||
| Yeah, she's gonna be fed. | ||
| Jamie, what's her background? | ||
| She's a demon hunter. | ||
| Landsberg. | ||
| She's a fucking warlock hunter. | ||
| She's a demon hunter. | ||
| A necklace of garlic and a fucking sword with a crucifix at the bottom of it. | ||
| And still won't help. | ||
| You won't get knocked the fuck out. | ||
| Here's a shield. | ||
| Good luck in that fight. | ||
| God damn, man. | ||
| That's one of them good luck fights. | ||
| Who's gonna beat Cyborg? | ||
| That's a good question, man. | ||
| Who is going to be? | ||
| Yeah, Maribak Tysimov out of UFC 203. Visa issues. | ||
| He's such a monster, too. | ||
| He's very good. | ||
| So fucking good. | ||
| But he's had Visa issues for several fights in a row now. | ||
| I just don't know why the UFC can't clear that up. | ||
| Unless it's some weird shit. | ||
| For sure someone help him out. | ||
| I wonder what the problem is. | ||
| I don't understand visas, man. | ||
| I don't understand who gets them and who doesn't. | ||
| I think right now it's a little tough. | ||
| It was declined. | ||
| Hmm. | ||
| Yeah, I wonder why they declined those things, man. | ||
| I don't know what it is. | ||
| But too bad, because he could fight his ass off. | ||
| So good. | ||
| Yeah, he's very good, man. | ||
| Very good. | ||
| And look at that whole card. | ||
| That's Ian McCall and Ray Borg. | ||
| That's right, I forgot that. | ||
| Ray Borg's no joke. | ||
| That's interesting. | ||
| Who's on that fight path? | ||
| Betch Goye, Yancy Medeiros, Sean Spencer. | ||
| That's a good fight. | ||
| That should be next weekend. | ||
| So what else is going on? | ||
| You're calling that fight, obviously. | ||
| It's heavyweight championship in the world. | ||
| Yeah, I'm there next week. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Powerful Cleveland. | ||
| See ya. | ||
| See ya, fuckers. | ||
| Cleveland. | ||
| Beautiful Cleveland. | ||
| That's deep-based town. | ||
| It's gonna be interesting, man. | ||
| They're gonna come out in droves for him. | ||
| Hopefully. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, it's going to be. | ||
| It's a very interesting fight, man. | ||
| Stipe is no fucking joke. | ||
| It's a toss-up for me. | ||
| But Alistair Overeem is so good at striking. | ||
| He's so clever and sneaky. | ||
| And now the way he fights, he moves around you and doesn't take any chances until he sees an opening. | ||
| Then he snipes on you. | ||
| And Miocic has got to be able to counter that. | ||
| And if he can't clip him and hurt him the way Rothwell did... | ||
| Then the fight becomes interesting. | ||
| You also look at the way Stipe almost terminators forward, you know what I'm saying, has that relentless pace like you do with JDS. You can't really do that with Overeem. | ||
| There's no training like that, really. | ||
| Well, it's going to be hard if he gets hit with leg kicks, like right away, because Alistair Overeem has some fucking ferocious leg kicks. | ||
| Body kicks, too. | ||
| He also throws that left kick to the body. | ||
| He switches stances a lot. | ||
| He can do a lot of different shit in there, striking-wise. | ||
| His knees are fucking horrific. | ||
| And then his grappling. | ||
| Yeah, his grappling's good. | ||
| He can fucking grapple. | ||
| We forget about it. | ||
| Yeah, his grappling's good. | ||
| It's very good. | ||
| He won the European Abu Dhabi qualifier. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| And he's, I think, the first guy to submit Vitor before Jon Jones did. | ||
| He submitted him with a guillotine back in the Pride days. | ||
| He's no joke, man. | ||
| Yeah, people forget about that. | ||
| Johnson versus Poirier. | ||
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That's going to be fun. | |
| Hall Brunson's a fun one, too. | ||
| Oh, that's very good. | ||
| Yeah, Reroy Hall almost got the Anderson Silva fight, right? | ||
| And Anderson hurt himself. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Phil Brooks is a wrestling superstar. | ||
| Hmm. | ||
| It's interesting. | ||
| This whole thing is so interesting that it's taken so long... | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I don't hate on the guy for pursuing something new. | ||
| I hate on a guy for doing something new out of his lane. | ||
| You know, that's my life. | ||
| Cowboy and I were making fun of him the other day for being a straight edge, for not drinking. | ||
| People got so mad. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, they got so mad. | ||
| He's never been a drinker? | ||
| No, he's no drinking, no drugs, no steroids, no nothing. | ||
| And we were like, alright, good luck with all that. | ||
| Have fun. | ||
| People get so mad. | ||
| Like, folks, relax. | ||
| You know, if you don't want to drink, you don't have to drink. | ||
| I'm not saying you should drink. | ||
| He's a superstar. | ||
| And I'm not drinking right now. | ||
| I'm stone cold sober. | ||
| I didn't drink it all last night either. | ||
| I go many, many days without drinking. | ||
| You don't have to drink, but... | ||
| I only drink here. | ||
| I almost don't drink. | ||
| It's fun. | ||
| Damn, his shirt was super corny. | ||
| But you don't have to do it. | ||
| He's got a lot of guts, though. | ||
| I'm not mad at his girl, either. | ||
| Well, it's also, like, how many options does he have? | ||
| It's really interesting when you think the fact that this guy was competing in the WWE, and he's going to fight at 170. It's kind of crazy. | ||
| Because, you know, 170 is small. | ||
| It's not very big. | ||
| Is that a big weight cut for him? | ||
| What does he walk around at? | ||
| No, it's not a big weight. | ||
| He's not a big guy. | ||
| But it's even more interesting that this guy was able to compete as a professional wrestler. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, on television, like, to do all that stuff against guys, they must be way bigger than him. | ||
| Because he's not a big guy. | ||
| No, he's not a huge guy. | ||
| He's gonna get fucked up. | ||
| How dare you, Eddie Bravo? | ||
| How dare you, crushing the man's spirit? | ||
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Two years? | |
| You've been training two years? | ||
| No, look at this striking. | ||
| It's fucking elite. | ||
| You've been training two years? | ||
| How dare you, Joe Rogan? | ||
| It's elite? | ||
| How dare you? | ||
| It's elite. | ||
| It's world class. | ||
| Well, it is. | ||
| He's fine at world-class level. | ||
| Look, he's a guy who's taking a big fucking chance. | ||
| We can mock him all day long, but at the end of the day, you've got to respect the fact that he's going to do it. | ||
| I don't think too many other people would do it. | ||
| How many other people would do it at his level? | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| Also, I'm very curious to see how he responds to the pressure. | ||
| Me too. | ||
| That's the one thing that bothers me. | ||
| I heard people go, oh, are you worried about the crowd and the UFC jitters? | ||
| They're real. | ||
| And he goes, I've been in front of big, big crowds. | ||
| It's no different. | ||
| I'm telling you it's different. | ||
| I've played football in way bigger crowds. | ||
| Fighting is completely different. | ||
| Even though you wrestle and it's one-on-one, it does not count. | ||
| Yeah, but the wrestling's not real. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| He hasn't done anything competition-wise. | ||
| There's no pressure. | ||
| Didn't do karate tournaments. | ||
| Didn't wrestle. | ||
| Didn't kick box. | ||
| There's no jujitsu tournaments in his past. | ||
| So the only competitions that he's had, really realistically, are smokers inside the gym, which I believe they put him through a few. | ||
| How did he get into the WWE? How did that happen? | ||
| What's that story? | ||
| He's not a big guy. | ||
| Was he an actor? | ||
| How did he do it? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's a good question. | ||
| He'd have something special about him if he's a small dude, he's not taking steroids. | ||
| He's a famous guy. | ||
| He's not taking any steroids and he's doing pro wrestling? | ||
| How does that even happen? | ||
| He's a good talker. | ||
| But if you watch, he's a good entertainer. | ||
| But if you watch his pro wrestling, there's guys that are in pro wrestling that are just freak athletes. | ||
| You know, and they can somersault, flip over their opponents and land behind them and then spin them around and get them a figure four toehold or whatever the fuck they do. | ||
| He's not one of those guys. | ||
| He's not one of those guys? | ||
| I thought he was the guy who jumped off and did flips and stuff. | ||
|
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No. | |
| Not like those Mexican masks ones? | ||
| No, that's not his thing. | ||
| Those guys are the craziest. | ||
| Yeah, that's not his thing. | ||
| They'll scissor you in the legs and flip you by your own neck. | ||
| You have to do crazy shit. | ||
| That's just the law. | ||
| If you're going to be tiny and right, you got to be fucking backflip. | ||
| He was like the outcast in WWE. He was like the anti-man, like would it go against Vince McMahon, the businessman. | ||
| That was his whole spiel. | ||
| Are we allowed to see like one? | ||
| What is this? | ||
| He's jumping through the air and he's going to land on a table? | ||
| They make him do crazy shit there, but yeah. | ||
| Well, that doesn't mean he's athletic. | ||
| You're jumping onto a cushion. | ||
| How crazy. | ||
| My kids do that. | ||
| Yeah, my mom could do that. | ||
| There's a place down the street from here. | ||
| There's trampolines and they have cushions. | ||
| You jump on the cushion. | ||
| Sky Zone! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We go there all the time, man. | ||
| I mean, it's kind of funny, but at the end of the day, it's not like Brock Lesnar. | ||
| You look at Brock Lesnar, and the way he would move around, he'd be like, I'd like to see that guy fight for real. | ||
| You look at this guy, and he's a reasonable athlete. | ||
| You look at his body, he's a reasonably athletic guy who looks like he works out, but you look at his legs, you don't go, Jesus, I bet that guy could jump over the fucking moon. | ||
| Yeah, he's not a big guy. | ||
| He's not a real athletic guy. | ||
| He's like your everyday, average gym guy. | ||
| He's like, cool, let's see him fight. | ||
| He has a big name. | ||
| Hey, you never know. | ||
| Everyone's tuning in. | ||
| I mean, I do know he won't be the 170-pound champ of the world. | ||
| We do know that. | ||
| How dare you. | ||
| How dare you? | ||
| I don't think he wants to do that, either. | ||
| Look at him next to The Rock. | ||
| Looks like The Rock's about to eat him. | ||
| I will eat you. | ||
| I would love to see The Rock fight. | ||
| He doesn't look too much smaller than The Rock. | ||
| Oh, he's way smaller than him, dude. | ||
| Not in that picture. | ||
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Well... | |
| Look at those arms. | ||
| They look similar. | ||
| He's got big arms. | ||
| It's for sure the camera. | ||
| I think it's a perspective issue. | ||
| If you see any of the... | ||
| I mean, I'm not degrading his body or anything like that, but if you look at most of the pictures of him wrestling, like go to that one on the upper left, right-hand side, go down, scroll down a little, Jamie, that next column, and there, go to the right. | ||
| Right there, click. | ||
| Yeah, you can tell he wasn't taking PDs. | ||
| It's like he's a fit guy. | ||
| He's in shape. | ||
| But the difference between him and a Rock or absolutely a Lesnar. | ||
| Rock is a big, powerful athlete. | ||
| A guy who works out a lot. | ||
| He's obviously jacked. | ||
| Yeah, he's a jacked fucking giant dude, but Brock moves around like a guy who knows how to kill people. | ||
| There's a total difference. | ||
| Like when he grabs guys... | ||
| What happened recently? | ||
| He broke some guy's head open with elbows? | ||
| An elbow, yeah. | ||
|
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It's all scripted. | |
| Did he do it on purpose? | ||
| Yeah, for sure. | ||
| But it was a real cut. | ||
| It's all scripted. | ||
| Yeah, but they have a lot of scar tissue up there from taking chairs to the head and stuff, so if you're going to open a professional wrestler up, do it there. | ||
| Jamie, you know this is true? | ||
| He supposedly got into a real fight with somebody backstage that didn't know that the thing that was going out in the ring was stage two. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
|
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Some guy got mad that, you went too far, bro. | |
| But he didn't because everybody knew about it. | ||
| So they planned on doing that in advance. | ||
| So the guy in the back was like, you went too far, bro. | ||
| He didn't know about it. | ||
| And he didn't know it was staged. | ||
| Is he retarded? | ||
| It's 2016. How does he not know it's staged? | ||
| It's pro wrestling, right? | ||
| Supposedly Brock Lesnar's known for going off script, which is part of his craziness. | ||
|
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That motherfucker. | |
| That off script motherfucker. | ||
| That roid raging motherfucker. | ||
| Yeah, he's a big fella. | ||
| It's too bad. | ||
|
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Big athletic dude, yeah. | |
| You know, USADA, I don't know what kind of a suspension they're going to give him, but they're talking about not giving him that much of a suspension. | ||
| Fuck off. | ||
| He's going to get the Hillary Clinton treatment. | ||
| His is straight clomate, though. | ||
| Listen, shut the fuck up. | ||
| Different than John. | ||
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Shut the fuck up. | |
| Is he talking about coming back and fighting another fight? | ||
| Oh yeah, I'm sure he would. | ||
| I'm sure he would. | ||
| He made a ton of money. | ||
| Crazy money. | ||
| He really didn't get beat up. | ||
| Did well. | ||
| Fought Mark Hunt, controlled him on the ground. | ||
| Him versus Barnett would be next, I bet. | ||
| I was about to say, that'd be interesting. | ||
| That would be variant. | ||
| John Jones, Brock Lesnar facing potential shorter suspensions from USADA. Listen, they need to just throw USADA and go, look, we proved the point. | ||
| I think we got it. | ||
| We got it. | ||
| But how does it work? | ||
| Does USADA take the place of the commission now in testing? | ||
| No. | ||
| No. | ||
| It's not that they take the place of the commission. | ||
| I believe the commissions are still within their rights to test fighters. | ||
| You'd have to actually look that up to make sure that's correct. | ||
| But the most important thing is... | ||
| The UFC is testing fighters all year round. | ||
| You have to give notice of where you are constantly, all the time. | ||
| So they're testing you whether you're in competition, whether you're out of competition, they're testing you randomly, they're showing at your house at 7 o'clock in the morning, and if they catch you, they're going to suspend you. | ||
| But who do they report it to, Joe? | ||
| That's a good question. | ||
| Who do they report it to, and who makes the decisions? | ||
| That's what I'm saying, because USADA's hired by the UFC. They're not a commission. | ||
| They're not a commission and USADA test you. | ||
| You get tested by two different Bodies. | ||
| But remember, USADA, they don't test the whole card. | ||
| It's selective testing. | ||
| Not USADA, the commission. | ||
| But the question is, and this is what we talked about with Scott Coker, so with USADA testing, who's an employee of the UFC? The UFC hired USADA to test their athletes. | ||
| They have nothing to do with the commission? | ||
| No. | ||
| So when USADA, let's say they find Lesnar or Lofsky, you know, random names. | ||
| Let's say CM Punk failed a test. | ||
| Do they go, hey, Dana, he failed a test. | ||
| Like, how does it work? | ||
| What's the exact steps? | ||
| This was our exact question on firing the kid, and no one answered it, really. | ||
| What's the path to... | ||
| Like, can Dana go, fuck, alright, well, it's just Molly. | ||
| Let's not spend him for that. | ||
| Or, you know, it's this, he's our main event, let's not do that. | ||
| I don't think it's up to Dana. | ||
| Molly. | ||
| There's no way. | ||
| I'd like to party. | ||
| It's weird to think about. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'd love to know. | ||
| Obviously, there's no way Dana or whoever's – well, it would be Dana's going, well, he just spent for that. | ||
| Let's do this. | ||
| So when it comes to Bellator, the commission still checks, but it's a random thing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, they can't be checking that much. | ||
| Well, no, but for Fight Week, you get – I mean, it can for sure. | ||
| Well, how does that guy, Michael Chisley, whatever his name is, get away with it? | ||
| Bobby Lashley? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Michael Chisley. | ||
| And Michael Chisley. | ||
| He's fighting in places that don't have commissions. | ||
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| Like Oklahoma, wherever. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Certain states don't have their own commission. | ||
| So then Bellator, the UFC, is responsible in deciding whether they want to test or not. | ||
| Like when Bellator went to England, there's no commission there. | ||
| There's no fight commission testing them. | ||
| So Bellator had their own testing. | ||
| Hmm. | ||
| So, yeah. | ||
| Which is, again, how's that work? | ||
| Not sure. | ||
| It's interesting, right? | ||
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Yeah, it's very interesting. | |
| Hey, fellas. | ||
| No commission. | ||
| Do your thing. | ||
| Yeah, they should be able to do whatever the fuck they want. | ||
| It's their organization. | ||
| If they don't want to hire USADA and they don't want to do it that way, let's see what it's like if you do it the old way. | ||
| Let's do it the old way. | ||
| You're talking about Pride. | ||
| No, we're talking about Strikeforce. | ||
| Or the UFC pre-days. | ||
| You're talking about Ubering vs. | ||
| Brock. | ||
| Without mentioning names, you can see such a difference in some people's bodies in the UFC now that they've cracked down on this shit. | ||
| No one more than Ubering. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, maybe Vitor. | ||
| Like, TRT Vitor? | ||
| Yeah, unbelievable difference. | ||
| But that was a weird one because it was so transparent, because it was TRT. I mean, he was taking it, it was legally prescribed. | ||
| Yeah, Vitor's number one on that. | ||
| He's number one. | ||
| Also, number one for, like, the poster boy for results. | ||
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Like, Jesus, where do I sign? | |
| Explosive as shit. | ||
| If you show a kid a video and like, Dad, why the fuck wouldn't I do it? | ||
| I have no argument, son. | ||
| I have no argument. | ||
| Like a human and a lion made a baby. | ||
| For real. | ||
| It's like, even Tanner, he was Tanner, the mohawk, the whole thing comes out. | ||
| It like crosses, it's shaved into his head. | ||
| Went uber religious. | ||
| It was intense. | ||
| Jesus ain't putting that testosterone in your blood, son. | ||
| Well, that was one of the things that he said after he got off of it, is that he has a holy supplement that he doesn't need TIT anymore. | ||
| How's that working out for you? | ||
| Well, it just took a while for the holy supplement to really... | ||
| Yeah, the blood of Christ. | ||
| I'm still fucking waiting. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Just pray every day. | ||
| Who's Weidman going to fight? | ||
| That's what I want to know. | ||
| He's fighting in New York, though. | ||
| Well, he should be. | ||
| But, I mean, damn, he was in the mix. | ||
| Now they're talking about Rumble versus Jon Jones for a shot at the title. | ||
| And they're talking about... | ||
| Is that supposed to be at Madison Square Garden? | ||
| Is that what they're saying? | ||
| That's what they're saying. | ||
| So wouldn't it be Rockhold Weidman 2? | ||
| Rockhold, Weidman 2 would be fucking awesome. | ||
| I would love to see that. | ||
| Because you have Bisping Henderson for the title in England happening in October. | ||
| That's in Manchester. | ||
| In November, you'd have Weidman vs. | ||
| Rockhold, right? | ||
| It's not a bad idea, but then what do you do with Yoel Romero? | ||
| He's still in the mix. | ||
| Very much so. | ||
| Yeah, not really. | ||
| You don't think he's in the mix? | ||
| Not when it comes to those guys. | ||
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Man, I don't know. | |
| What do you mean, though? | ||
| It's hard to market. | ||
| You can market the fuck out. | ||
| You're not going to put Yoel versus one of these guys in New York. | ||
| It's a huge, huge Maston Square Garden. | ||
| He's coming off suspension. | ||
| Rockhold Weidman, we're going to watch. | ||
| Let me tell you something. | ||
| I will see Yoel Romero fight against fucking anybody. | ||
| Me too. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Rashad Evans. | ||
| Maybe Rashad Evans versus Yoel Romero. | ||
| No, Rashad's fighting Tim Kennedy. | ||
| What is this? | ||
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MSG. Yeah. | |
| Holy shit. | ||
| November is the only one that's supposedly confirmed. | ||
| Powerful Tim Kennedy. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| That's interesting. | ||
| So Kennedy's back in full training mode. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Because he's been overseas. | ||
| He's always in shape. | ||
| He's been still serving. | ||
| Well, he was in kill mode. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is fight mode. | ||
| This is easy mode for him. | ||
| Get ready for a fight? | ||
| What? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's easy. | ||
| Talk about a guy living an intense life. | ||
| Tough fight for Rashad. | ||
| I like the matchup, though. | ||
| It's interesting to see if he can make that 185 cut, because he's not a big 205-er, and he was carrying around quite a bit of muscle. | ||
| I'm surprised Tim went on with the Reebok deal. | ||
| I wonder what did it for him. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Maybe he just wants to fight. | ||
| Maybe he just wants a fight. | ||
| But yeah, man, it's interesting to see what can happen without the Reebok deal, without USADA, over Bellator. | ||
| And they're slowly starting to get top talent. | ||
| I mean, now they've got Benson, they've got Rory. | ||
| Roy's by far the biggest. | ||
| By far the best, right? | ||
| Biggest. | ||
| Young, still has a lot of fight left in him. | ||
| Ben's right up there with them. | ||
| Benson Henderson? | ||
| Too many wars. | ||
| No, he's had some wars. | ||
| Too many wars. | ||
| He's slipped a little bit. | ||
| I mean, he might still be a lead of the elite, but at one point in time, he's accomplished more than any of them. | ||
| I mean, he was... | ||
| He's amazing. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, he was... | ||
| He was a champ. | ||
| WC champ. | ||
| WC champ. | ||
| Even on our podcast, he even kind of hinted at... | ||
| He's coming to the end of sort of what he considers his MMA career. | ||
| He can only do it for so long. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But he didn't hint that... | ||
| No, he thinks he's going to be champ, and he's obviously fighting for the belt. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| He's fighting Chandler for the belt, which is a tough fucking fight for him. | ||
| Tough fucking fight. | ||
| Chandler's a nightmare. | ||
| He's dangerous. | ||
| And Ben hasn't... | ||
| You know, I love Ben, but he hasn't looked that great in Pelotor. | ||
| Lost his first fight. | ||
| His last fight with Pitbull. | ||
| Not a great fight. | ||
| I'm actually losing that fight until Pitbull got hurt. | ||
| Rory's going to take a whole year off for his nose. | ||
| For his nose, yeah. | ||
| And that's from Robbie Lawler. | ||
| Yeah, that crazy smash-em-up fight. | ||
| Well, Wonderboy opened it up, but as Robbie Lawler broke it so bad in that fight that he broke it twice more in training for Wonderboy. | ||
| It just keeps breaking. | ||
| So I don't know if he gets surgery for that. | ||
| Like, what do you do? | ||
| He thinks it's just time. | ||
| Like, he had the proper surgery, but he keeps rushing back and it's just not getting better. | ||
| Can't breathe. | ||
| If he had the proper surgery and he went and got smashed up again, it's probably got to be cleared up again. | ||
| So maybe that's why he's taking a year. | ||
| That is such an issue with fighters because they want to get their nose fixed, but if you do get your nose fixed, you really shouldn't get punched in it for a while. | ||
| But if you don't get your nose fixed, then you can't breathe out of your fucking nose. | ||
| Yeah, you have to do it. | ||
| Yeah, it's a real weird one. | ||
| Vanderlei had the craziest solution. | ||
| Make your nose bigger. | ||
| Go to get surgery, take a chunk of cartilage out of your rib and make me a big nose that I can really breathe out of. | ||
| Give me that LeBron James nose. | ||
| I'll take the LeBron. | ||
| He got this extra chunk in his nose where his nose was bigger than it was before his fighting career. | ||
| He got a nose job. | ||
| Let's be real here. | ||
| He got a nose job that makes your nose bigger. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Which is crazy. | ||
| Which is rare. | ||
| No one's ever done that. | ||
| Hollywood was like, dude, what? | ||
| Yeah, I want it bigger. | ||
| Bigger with my nostrils like this. | ||
| So the ear's like ram. | ||
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Like his ram ear right into my fucking nostrils. | |
| Like he's got a hood scoop on. | ||
| If you want, I guess, man. | ||
| It's fucking nuts when you think about it. | ||
| That is funny, man. | ||
| It is funny. | ||
| Yeah, he had to get all sorts of stuff done. | ||
| He had to get his eyebrows cut down. | ||
| He had so much scar tissue around his eyes that his eyes were sagging. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He had a facelift. | ||
| Well, he got all the scar tissue cut, and then they pull it up. | ||
| Let's see it before and after, Jamie. | ||
| Well, you can see that he's got deep scars all around his eyes. | ||
| Like, Vandele has been in some... | ||
| Fucking wars. | ||
| Legend, legend, legend. | ||
| And then on top of that, he comes from Shoot the Box and their sparring sessions. | ||
| Nobody spars like they used to spar. | ||
| Hell no. | ||
| Like today, nobody does it like that. | ||
| They used to knock each other out for fun. | ||
| You can't. | ||
| You can't spar like that. | ||
| There's an old story of Vanderlei. | ||
| Before and after. | ||
| Oh, that's not... | ||
| That's not even a good one. | ||
| That's not even a good one. | ||
| No, because that right one's not the new one. | ||
| Well, the right one is... | ||
| The one on the right-hand side is relaxed, like after the surgery. | ||
| Go above there, like there, like there. | ||
| You can see, like, it's... | ||
| You got to see him, like, right after the surgery. | ||
| That says nose number three. | ||
| He's had three different noses? | ||
| Look, it says one, two, three. | ||
| You see that, Jamie? | ||
| Nose one. | ||
| The next one's two. | ||
| Yeah, so what that is, is that's right after surgery, and that's when it's a little bit more relaxed, I guess. | ||
| But yeah, he had to get sliced down. | ||
| That guy's had some crazy wars. | ||
| Him and Shogun fought over a Pitbull puppy, supposedly. | ||
| And he knocked Shogun out and took the puppy. | ||
| They made a contact, if I knock you out, I get the puppy for free. | ||
| If you knock me out, I'll give you, you know, whatever you're asking. | ||
| That's some Brazilian shit. | ||
| You actually do a really good Vanderlei impression. | ||
| Vanderlei. | ||
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Vanderlei, Dana White. | |
| You know, this is what they've done in Nevada. | ||
| Athletic commission. | ||
| What they've done is not good. | ||
| It's almost as good as Cowan. | ||
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It's very good. | |
| Just like him. | ||
| They fucked him, man. | ||
| He might have got fucked more than any MMA fighter ever. | ||
| They banned him for life. | ||
| For life. | ||
| For life. | ||
| And he won. | ||
| So they threw it out, but now he doesn't have a license. | ||
| He doesn't have a timeline. | ||
| He doesn't have it. | ||
| And they're talking about him fighting. | ||
| They were talking about him fighting Fedor in Japan in like December, right? | ||
| In Risen, yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They even had posters and shit. | ||
| I don't know if that's ever gonna happen. | ||
| When does a guy like that, after all that damage, take... | ||
| Stop. | ||
| I mean, that's probably... | ||
| Him for his fate or I'll watch, though. | ||
| Live to fight. | ||
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Fight is a good fight. | |
| It's like a Brazilian Arnold Schwarzenegger. | ||
| Come on, do it! | ||
| Come on, do it! | ||
| Dana White. | ||
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Dana. | |
| Back to Pride. | ||
| Dude, you want to hear a fucking crazy story I heard about Jake Ellenberger. | ||
| This is from his camp. | ||
| So Jake, after his last fight, have you heard this? | ||
| No. | ||
| Jake, after his last fight, gets cut. | ||
| Joe Silva calls him like, yeah, man, see you, you cut. | ||
| Jake flies to Vegas, shows up at the UFC headquarters, meet with Dana. | ||
| He's in his office. | ||
| He's like, I need one more, man. | ||
| You got to give me one more. | ||
| I fought monsters. | ||
| My head wasn't right. | ||
| I have all this shit going on. | ||
| You got to give me one more. | ||
| Dan's like, I can't, man. | ||
| You've lost, whatever, four out of your last five. | ||
| It just ain't happening. | ||
| Gets up, leaves, and Jake goes, I'm not going anywhere. | ||
| I'm not going anywhere until you give me another fight. | ||
| I'm not doing anything. | ||
| He's staying and leaves, does all his shit, comes back. | ||
| Jake's still in his office. | ||
| Jesus Christ, man. | ||
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Fine. | |
| One more fucking shot. | ||
| Days go by. | ||
| Joe Civil calls his manager, Morgan, who I know really well, and he goes, Alright, man, we got your boy a fucking fight. | ||
| We got Matt Brown. | ||
| And his manager goes, Jesus, man! | ||
| Matt Brown! | ||
| I don't know if we... | ||
| Do you have anyone else? | ||
| And Joe Silva goes, no, that's the fight. | ||
| Just forget it. | ||
| He doesn't have a fight. | ||
| Hangs up and then Morgan's like, no, no, no. | ||
| We'll fucking take it. | ||
| And then calls Jake and then obviously Jake goes in there. | ||
| Terrible matchup for him. | ||
| Just starches Matt Brown. | ||
| Knocks him down with a right hand. | ||
| Takes him off his feet and then liver kicks him. | ||
| Great story, man. | ||
| Crazy fight. | ||
| When they told him that story, I had goosebumps. | ||
| Good for you, Jake. | ||
| Good for you, man. | ||
| Damn, desperation can sometimes breed great success. | ||
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God bless him. | |
| Well, he also started working with Nick Curzon. | ||
| Nick Curzon, who's a strength and conditioning trainer, Speed of Sport. | ||
| He's Marv Marinovich's disciple. | ||
| And he's the guy that's done Joe Schilling. | ||
| He handles Provodnikov, Aaron Pico. | ||
| A lot of elite athletes go to him. | ||
| It's really pretty revolutionary strength and conditioning ideas. | ||
| And he worked with them and really built up his training and built up his endurance and did a lot of plyos and shit with them. | ||
| For Jake, obviously he was fighting just monsters. | ||
| It seemed to be a little bit of a mental thing. | ||
| He's been fighting forever. | ||
| He's been fighting the best of the best. | ||
| Yes, it's hard to... | ||
| First fight in the UFC is against Carlos Condit. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| Remember, he knocked out Jake Shields, too. | ||
| Knocked him out, starched him. | ||
| Was that his first fight in the UFC or was it Condit's first fight in the UFC? It was Ellenberger. | ||
| I want to say Condit's first fight in the UFC was Ellenberger. | ||
| Condit's because he came from WEC. Ellenberger knocked out Nate Marquardt, remember? | ||
| It was Ellenberger's first fight in the UFC then. | ||
| I want to know. | ||
| That's interesting. | ||
| It wasn't Nate, right? | ||
| No. | ||
| Ellenberg is a beast, man. | ||
| I was way down the road. | ||
| Remember when he knocked out Pele? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Outside of the UFC? KO'd Pele with one punch? | ||
| Crazy power, man. | ||
| Crazy power. | ||
| Pele Landy? | ||
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Carlos Condon. | |
| Carlos Condon was his first fight as well? | ||
| So I think it was Carlos' first fight as well. | ||
| Decision split. | ||
| Real close fight. | ||
| And remember when Jake Ellenberger beat Shields? | ||
| That's the same week Shields' dad passed away. | ||
| And he was thinking about not fighting. | ||
| And he took the fight and just got starts. | ||
| Not to take anything away from that fight. | ||
| He was super close to his dad, too. | ||
| Super, super close. | ||
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Can you imagine? | |
| No, I can't. | ||
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He just... | |
| It's hard to imagine. | ||
| Hard to imagine fighting right after losing your dad like that. | ||
| Like, your motivation would be out the window. | ||
| His dad was his manager, too, I think. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's a bummer, man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What is this? | ||
| Rumor? | ||
| Conor McGregor versus GSP at 205. Where are you hearing this? | ||
| I was looking around for... | ||
| There's rumor-reveal stuff for that fight, and there's supposedly a big fight announcement is all I saw, and then I saw a big McGregor fight announcement. | ||
| That would be awesome. | ||
| Prepared to get wrestle-fucked. | ||
| Just a rumor right now. | ||
| Prepared to get that French-fucked for 25 minutes. | ||
| Give me my fucking money back. | ||
| It would be interesting, man, because Connor is fast as fuck. | ||
| And at least in that first round, while he's exploding with those ridiculous sprint punches that he lands, he lands those counter shots on you and they're so fast. | ||
| St. Pierre's not slow. | ||
| He's not slow. | ||
| And he's way, way too smart to get caught with that. | ||
| And he's big. | ||
| He's a big boy. | ||
| And can grapple with the best of them. | ||
| And his natural walk-around weight is a solid 20-plus pounds heavier. | ||
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Solid. | |
| 190? | ||
| Yeah, he's probably at least in the high 180s. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| And Connor weighed 168 against Nate, which you've got to assume that that's him not really cutting weight. | ||
| He's just really fit. | ||
| For Conor, man, everyone knows I'm the biggest Conor fan, but you look at the matchups at 55, besides 45, which you can't really make anymore, but you look at 55 and then these super fights, it's not great, man. | ||
| Well, they're talking about doing him and Eddie Alvarez. | ||
| That is no picnic. | ||
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| And that's his easiest matchup at 55. Definitely not his easiest. | ||
| No, just go through the top five. | ||
| Bring up the top five, Jimmy. | ||
| I went through this the other day, I'm like, Jesus Christ, man. | ||
| I could not imagine how you could say that the champion would be his easiest fight. | ||
| Stylistically, I don't think that's an easy fight for anybody. | ||
| Eddie Alvarez is a fucking monster. | ||
| Exactly, that's what I'm saying. | ||
| It's not good for Conor. | ||
| It's a rough fight for him, but stylistically, out of the top five, I'm like, fuck's sakes, man. | ||
| He doesn't want to fight Khabib. | ||
| Well, Dos Anjos is going to fight Tony motherfucking Ferguson. | ||
| Both those two are top five. | ||
| Rafael Dos Anjos, Tony Ferguson in Mexico. | ||
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That's going to be great. | |
| In Mexico, my friend. | ||
| That's going to be great. | ||
| Look at the top five for me, Joe. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Khabib Nurmagomedov. | ||
| Nurmagomedov is a monster. | ||
| We'll see. | ||
| Dos Anjos and Tony Ferguson are locked in a death fucking match for the number one position. | ||
| Even the winner of that. | ||
| Let's say the winner of that. | ||
| Or either of those guys. | ||
| Even the loser fights, Connor, it's a fucking tough fight. | ||
| Okay, and Barboza. | ||
| Well, here's the thing about Barboza. | ||
| Barboza's kicks are out of this fucking world. | ||
| Like he might be, but he's been caught before. | ||
| He's been cracked. | ||
| Barboza's your best bet. | ||
| Cowboy cracked him and took his back, and Donald Cerrone and him would be chaos. | ||
| Donald would take him down. | ||
| Donald is not fighting 55 anymore. | ||
| No. | ||
| He's going to keep fighting at 170. So I don't even know why they got him ranked there. | ||
| Because I think he's top 10 right now at welterweight as well. | ||
| He's number 7. Yeah, isn't he? | ||
| Yeah, Donald Cerrone. | ||
| It's interesting. | ||
| He's top 10 in both weight classes. | ||
| He's fighting better than he's ever fought. | ||
| I mean, he's just incredible. | ||
| How dare you have him before Neil Magny? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| How dare you? | ||
| I think Donald, especially after that last win, should be number 5 in that lineup. | ||
| He beat Edson Barbosa. | ||
| Yes, he did, but he beat him at lightweight, and now he's not really fighting at lightweight anymore, but yeah, you've got a good point, because Barboza's listed as number four, but Barboza's looked sensational, especially in his last fight against Gilbert Melendez. | ||
| Barboza's just off the charts technical. | ||
| I know, but you've got to count head-to-head. | ||
| I know. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| And then before that, his fight with Pettis. | ||
| But the fact that Donald is semi-retired from that division, you gotta give Barbosa a little bit of a bomb. | ||
| But this, you see my thing, Joey? | ||
| Like, you look at it, alright, Khabib, fuck's sakes. | ||
| Dos Anchos, good God. | ||
| Tony Persson, not great. | ||
| Nate Diaz at 55, he's better at 55 than with 70. Why? | ||
| I think it's natural for him. | ||
| I think he's gonna be faster, better cardio. | ||
| I think it's a tough fight. | ||
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| All I'm saying for Conor, 55, if you're his management, you're like, God damn, man. | ||
| There's no, like, you know what I'm saying? | ||
| Right. | ||
| There's a lot of killers. | ||
| I don't think he's looking for easy fights. | ||
| I think he wants big money. | ||
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Didn't say that. | |
| Didn't say that. | ||
| If you want big money, fight Floyd Mayweather. | ||
| You do a super fight with some of these guys. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Donald Cerrone McGregor would be awesome. | ||
| It'd be awesome. | ||
| How is Tumanov ranked 15th? | ||
| At 170. I don't know. | ||
| The welterweight division is insane. | ||
| It is insane. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| Yeah, it is insane. | ||
| And then, did you see how good Lorenz Larkin looked against Neil Magny? | ||
| Good lord. | ||
| How is he ranked lower than Neil Magny? | ||
| Why is he 9 and Neil's 8? | ||
| Because his ratings suck. | ||
| That's terrible. | ||
| He just ran through Neil Magny. | ||
| What cheeto fingers do these? | ||
| He literally ran through them in the first round. | ||
| Oh, like a knife to warm butter just starched my boy Neil Magny. | ||
| How is he ranked below him? | ||
| That is insane. | ||
| What about Kelvin right there? | ||
| Kelvin, number five. | ||
| By the way, Tumanoff beat Lorenz Larkin. | ||
| So Tumanoff won a decision against Lorenz Larkin and he's down there at number 15, whereas Lorenz just destroyed Neil Magny and he's at 9 and Magny's at 8. These rankings are retarded. | ||
| They're so bad. | ||
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Maybe they're old. | |
| They're probably old. | ||
| I doubt they're old. | ||
| No, they're not old because they have the up and down signs. | ||
| Well, this is what it is. | ||
| These rankings are journalists. | ||
| Do you know how these things are established? | ||
| Journalists. | ||
| A bunch of journalists give their top pick, and half of them are drunk. | ||
| They're not paying attention. | ||
| They're doing drugs. | ||
| Half of them are jacking off to their favorite fighter. | ||
| Well, it doesn't make any sense. | ||
| Those ratings don't make any sense. | ||
| Tumanoff being at 15, Lorenz Larkin, who he beat, being ranked way above him, and then Neil Magny being above him when he just blew Magny out of the water in the first round. | ||
| It doesn't make any sense. | ||
| Remember when the base guys pay off the rankings, and the fighter's like, What the fuck is going on here? | ||
| Dana's like, just fucking with you. | ||
| It's going to be Reebok. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Just fucking with you. | ||
| We ain't doing that. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| I'm just messing with you. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Yeah, the rankings and the money and all that jazz, it's just, what a mess. | ||
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But yeah, for Conor, it gets tough at 55. I'd love to see him fight Eddie, though. | |
| I agree. | ||
| He could win. | ||
| That's probably the fight. | ||
| He could beat him. | ||
| That's probably the fight. | ||
| Then what happens? | ||
| If he gets the belt then, he would probably defend against Khabib. | ||
| Yeah, good luck with all that. | ||
| Yeah, that's a disaster. | ||
| I don't think anyone wants to fight Khabib. | ||
| No one. | ||
| It's not even a Conor issue. | ||
| It's an entire fucking division. | ||
| They're just hoping that he keeps training like a fucking werewolf and then tears another knee or blows his back out. | ||
| That's what everybody does is stay back while that guy whips himself into a frenzy in every training camp. | ||
| If I'm his coach, that bitch is just on the Aerodyne. | ||
| That's his whole camp. | ||
| God. | ||
| Irodyne wears that crazy Russian hat and then jumps in the fucking octagon. | ||
| He just jumps from the sauna into the frozen lake. | ||
| I don't know why people talk to him. | ||
| I just have a bubble around him. | ||
| Irodyne. | ||
| Crazy Russian hat. | ||
| Do sprints. | ||
| Build up that cardio. | ||
| He's a fucking nightmare. | ||
| When you watch him fight Dos Anjos, and you see how Dos Anjos just overwhelms guys with grappling and pressure, and then Khabib just ragdolls him. | ||
| He's nuts. | ||
| Just ragdolls him. | ||
| Oh, you like to grapple? | ||
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Check this shit out. | |
| This is my favorite thing to do. | ||
| I like to break people. | ||
| My daycare was grappling grizzly bears, you fuck. | ||
| Check this out. | ||
| Does he have a fight coming up, Khabib? | ||
| Is he scheduled to fight anybody? | ||
| No, he doesn't have anything. | ||
| No, he doesn't have anything. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Probably injuries. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Blow his asshole out or something. | ||
| He's always hurt. | ||
| No, I think he's healthy. | ||
| I hope he is. | ||
| He won a fight recently against a guy who took the fight on real short notice. | ||
| And it was straight Mahan Miller bully beatdown style. | ||
| It was a pretty ferocious beatdown. | ||
| But he looked like it was good for him to get that fight under his belt, but he did look like a killer. | ||
| He's a killer. | ||
| I mean, his grappling is so next level. | ||
| The injuries are killing him, man. | ||
| Train's hard. | ||
| Dude, did you see his video of him in Russia doing like a signing for Reebok? | ||
| No. | ||
| It was like Tom Cruise shit. | ||
| Oh, I'm sure. | ||
| They freak the fuck out. | ||
| Dude, anytime I post anything about the UFC, my Instagram comments get swarmed with Khabib. | ||
| Khabib time. | ||
| Khabib time. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| In other parts of the world, like here he is. | ||
| You see like this fucking, the high-level smash and grappling this guy has. | ||
| You're right, Joe. | ||
| This was good for him, though. | ||
| This was good for him, because he had a lot of time off with the injuries. | ||
| Darryl Horcher, to get that fight under his belt, feel good. | ||
| Dude, he does whatever he wants. | ||
| He's so powerful. | ||
| When it comes to his grappling... | ||
| Look at this Dos Anjos thing. | ||
| Yeah, play that fight. | ||
| Play him versus Dos Anjos. | ||
| Let's see this. | ||
| Full fight. | ||
| He's a goddamn werewolf, man. | ||
| Even the way he leaps in and throws punches, he's so ferocious. | ||
| It's hard to stay healthy when you train like that, though. | ||
| I don't know what a guy does. | ||
| Some guys are fucking figuring it out. | ||
| Hey, answer me this. | ||
| How come they can show this on YouTube? | ||
| Is it because it's in a little window? | ||
| Yeah, this is the tricks they play. | ||
| This is a little window. | ||
| There's this faded line over here that's also going to add to tricking the computer. | ||
| It might have different music on it. | ||
| They added this on top of it. | ||
| Definitely illegal. | ||
| It's definitely illegal. | ||
| Yeah, scoot up ahead so we don't have to watch them walk in. | ||
| Yeah, it's interesting, man. | ||
| This guy has been more plagued with injuries than any elite fighter other than Dominic Cruz. | ||
| Dominic Cruz and him probably take the cake. | ||
| But Dominic Cruz had how many fights before he started getting all these injuries? | ||
| He hasn't had that many fights in the UFC. And he's undefeated, which is really crazy. | ||
| No one at this level is undefeated. | ||
| Nurmagomedov is the only guy that's undefeated. | ||
| Just because he hasn't fought enough, though. | ||
| But it's the fucking pressure. | ||
| Look at this guy. | ||
| When he moves forward, just massive pressure. | ||
| Constant pressure. | ||
| But good distance control. | ||
| Just outside the range, but always putting that pressure on you. | ||
| Skinny Dos Anjos. | ||
| It's a good kick to the body, but yeah, a lot skinnier Dos Anjos. | ||
| This is the fight that probably got him to start lifting weights and drinking watermelon juice. | ||
| Boom. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Look who carries him around and just drags him to the ground. | ||
| Dude, his grappling is so next level. | ||
| Combat Sambo, my friend. | ||
| Master of sport. | ||
| World champion. | ||
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Unreal. | |
| Just so fucking brutal. | ||
| And the style that he does, it's like, it makes sense that this guy gets injured a lot because his style is pedal to the metal. | ||
|
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Explosive, yeah. | |
| And you gotta train like this. | ||
| There's no way he doesn't train like this. | ||
| So if you're training like this all the time, you're dealing with little injuries, little micro injuries that get exacerbated, and then your fucking knees blow out. | ||
| Let's get the fuck out of here, boys. | ||
| Let's wrap this bitch up. | ||
| Let's bring it home. | ||
| Let's bring it home. | ||
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How long did that fight go? | |
| Three rounds. | ||
| Three round beating. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| I always feel like I'm particularly quiet because I'm watching the fights. | ||
| Did he stop him in the third round? | ||
| No, no. | ||
| He just overwhelmed him. | ||
| It was a decision. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Overwhelmed him. | ||
| Just kept Los Angeles defending. | ||
| That's all he was doing was defending towards the end of the fight. | ||
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Habib. | |
| Habib. | ||
| I've worn his hat several times. | ||
| Twice at least. | ||
| Sweaty hat. | ||
| He puts it on me when I interview him after he wins. | ||
| I forget what that thing's called, the big crazy hat. | ||
| It's called a babushka, I think. | ||
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Is it? | |
| Uh-huh. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Babushka. | ||
| Are you sure? | ||
| Look it up. | ||
| What is that thing called? | ||
| Find out what that thing's called. | ||
| That might be just a wig, but I think it's a babushka. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| It's a warm hat, man. | ||
| It's probably like lamb's fur or sheep fur or something like that. | ||
| There it is. | ||
| What is it called? | ||
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No. | |
| That's not it? | ||
| Well, babushka's a grandmother, but the hat, I think the hat, headscarf tied under the chin. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| Well, what is that? | ||
| Well, just Google Nurmagomedov's hat. | ||
| Maybe it's for babushka hat. | ||
| And someone will have the name of it. | ||
| I don't think it's a babushka, bro. | ||
| I think it kind of looks like a babushka, but I think it's a... | ||
| See, is that a babushka? | ||
| Okay, well, just Google Nurmagomedov's hat. | ||
| Because he comes from a very particular place, Dagestan, and they have their own kind of hat. | ||
| Is it Dagestan? | ||
| Yeah, see right there, Habib Nurmagomedov hat. | ||
| Habib hat. | ||
| Maybe it's just called a Habib hat. | ||
| Find out what it is. | ||
| There it goes. | ||
| Dagestani. | ||
| Distinctive hat. | ||
| The heritage behind it is distinctive hat. | ||
| Papeka. | ||
| P-A-P-A-K-H-A. Man, it means hat. | ||
| They call it hat. | ||
| They're a matter-of-fact people. | ||
| It says a very shaggy, wild papeka, and papeka simply means hat. | ||
| On-born lamb fur? | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| So when is he... | ||
| What is it? | ||
| On-born lamb fur? | ||
| Unborn lamb. | ||
| What? | ||
| He made the hat wear of the fur of unborn lamb. | ||
| How's that... | ||
| Is that real? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's super soft. | ||
| They give birth to them like that? | ||
| No, they take it out of the womb. | ||
| That doesn't make any sense. | ||
| They take it out of the womb and they take the fur that's already there because it's extra soft. | ||
| But does that make sense that they could get that much fur that long inside the womb? | ||
| Yeah, they do that stuff too. | ||
| So one car company, I can't remember, was using Cow Fetus. | ||
| Because the leather was super soft. | ||
| Shut the fuck up. | ||
| Swear to God. | ||
| What company? | ||
| I think it was Infinity. | ||
| No way. | ||
| I think how many animals they'd have to kill, B. They were using cow fetus. | ||
| Cow fetus is like, it's in the womb and it's so soft. | ||
| It's pretty fucking brutal if you think about it. | ||
| Infinity was doing that? | ||
| You better not say that. | ||
| They'd be getting sued. | ||
| It was some car company. | ||
| You're going to get sued. | ||
| I will. | ||
| No, you're going to get sued. | ||
| Yeah, they're going to sue me because they waited for the cat to be born, then they used it. | ||
| Wow, how weird, huh? | ||
| Well, you know, that's what lamb is. | ||
| I was trying to explain something. | ||
| They're like, what's the difference between sheep and lamb? | ||
| A lamb's a baby sheep. | ||
| It's a baby sheep. | ||
| And someone looked at me like, what? | ||
| I go, yeah, it's a baby sheep. | ||
| How do you know that? | ||
| It's delicious. | ||
| Yeah, you didn't know that? | ||
| Where lamb skin condoms are made from baby sheep? | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| Goddamn, that's sad. | ||
| There's a difference between a lamb and a sheep. | ||
| Like, if you eat lamb, you're eating a baby sheep. | ||
| But if you eat mutton, you're eating a sheep. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| So, like, the people in, like, Scotland eating mutton. | ||
| Scotland. | ||
| They're eating that stuff. | ||
| That's a different, that's a much more gamey. | ||
| But don't kill the lambs. | ||
| I don't fuck with lambs. | ||
| I slaughter the lambs. | ||
| It's really good for you. | ||
| Slaughter those fuckers. | ||
| It's really like a very healthy protein. | ||
| Very easy to digest, too. | ||
| I love lamb. | ||
| Don't fuck with lamb or pig, really. | ||
| I do. | ||
| You don't fuck with pig? | ||
| I eat pig. | ||
| You're not on that bacon thing? | ||
| I eat lamb. | ||
| I eat pussy. | ||
| Yeah, I like bacon. | ||
| Bacon's good. | ||
| But I don't like domesticated pigs. | ||
| The whole pig industry, it bothers me because pigs are smart. | ||
| And they're all penned up like that. | ||
| There's only one way to get bacon outside of that. | ||
| You've got to find a dude who's a farmer who's ethical. | ||
| You've got to find a guy who's a farmer. | ||
| It's too tough. | ||
| This has got Joel Salatin. | ||
| Yeah, Joel Salatin, what he does is he has a giant piece of land, and he moves his pigs around with electric fences. | ||
| So he sets up an electric perimeter, and then he moves it, sets up a new electric perimeter, and then he moves it. | ||
| So they're constantly foraging like regular pigs. | ||
| They love to forage. | ||
| But they're constantly contained. | ||
| So they're domesticated. | ||
| But they have dark meat, like a wild pig does. | ||
| Because the other pigs, aren't they eating just their shit, everything? | ||
| They're eating bullshit? | ||
| They eat everything they can get their hands on. | ||
| It's a hard, scrabble life. | ||
| They do it. | ||
| The Imbérico ham, the Blackfoot hog, they eat acorns. | ||
| That's why that fucking prosciutto is... | ||
| I got some in that dick. | ||
| That refrigerator back there. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| My buddy brought them back. | ||
| Chris Ryan, Dr. Chris Ryan, brought it back from Spain. | ||
| What, is it salami or something? | ||
| You're going to have to cut me off some stuff? | ||
| No, it's like prosciutto. | ||
| It's the best prosciutto in the world. | ||
| The fuck? | ||
| We could have a fight companion with pig prosciutto. | ||
| You guys would be smacking into the... | ||
| I'm going to have to get some of that. | ||
| Just animated gifs of you popping peanuts in your mouth and chewing. | ||
| I'll snack in some nuts. | ||
| All of us. | ||
| All of us are guilty. | ||
| We didn't drink any wine in this one. | ||
| We didn't. | ||
| That's why it was a good podcast. | ||
| Good point. | ||
| No more wine. | ||
| I'm afraid I'm the wine master and I must reserve the wine for after the five companions. | ||
| Sometimes we just get a little hammered. | ||
| A little hammered, a little high. | ||
| Wine gets you going, man. | ||
| A little ridiculized. | ||
| This is a non-drunk podcast. | ||
| Yeah, it was a noon podcast. | ||
| We're responsible. | ||
| We're all parents. | ||
| Good God. | ||
| We're Four Dads. | ||
| This is our new sitcom. | ||
| It's called Four Dads. | ||
| Four Dads Escape. | ||
| Four Dads. | ||
| We don't watch the fights. | ||
| We don't know what's going on. | ||
| This is the only place where we can be ourself. | ||
| Because we live with women. | ||
| With women. | ||
| And by ourselves we mean we talk about fighting at nauseam. | ||
| You get all those four bitches to move into a house together and take care of the kids. | ||
| And we'll move into a house right next door. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And just have fight companions every day. | ||
| And swap! | ||
| They can come over and go, this place smells like men. | ||
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Ew. | |
| They come over and pick up your sock. | ||
| Is this yours, Brandon? | ||
| Brian, you left pizza on the fucking counter. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| We're like, sorry. | ||
| You live over in their world, bro. | ||
| You gotta live by their rules. | ||
| You gotta not use those special towels. | ||
| You know, like, did you use the towel that's hanging? | ||
| It's a towel. | ||
| It's a fucking towel. | ||
| Of course I used it. | ||
| That's a decorative towel. | ||
| This is a different kind of towel. | ||
| And it's guys. | ||
| We sleep in the same bed, but it's guys. | ||
| We're like, this is awesome. | ||
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We're naked. | |
| We don't care. | ||
| We're not scared of dicks. | ||
| I got a morning heart on you guys. | ||
| Look at this thing. | ||
| I'm not scared. | ||
| Brennan, grab it. | ||
| Let's see how big your hand is on my dick. | ||
| Who came first? | ||
| I'm down. | ||
| I'm down, man. | ||
| My prostate's big because I'm older, so I'm dribbling, you guys. | ||
| Eddie, you'll see you shoot. | ||
| One of the things I think about Brian whenever we go on these hunting trips is like it's all dudes. | ||
| We're all like, and Rannell and his crew who are this fucking salt of the earth. | ||
| We're hanging around just laughing. | ||
| I'm like, this is what we're supposed to do. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| What men are supposed to do is get in these groups and they go out and they just leave the women alone. | ||
| The women talk shit about you while you're gone. | ||
| And then enough time passes where they miss you. | ||
| And you come back and they meet you at the door and you hug. | ||
| This is traditional. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| When you're all on top of each other all the time, it just wears on each other. | ||
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Right. | |
| And we have so much fun on this. | ||
| Those hunting trips are all one big comedy show. | ||
| Well, it's all men being men. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's saying things that would get you in real trouble if people heard. | ||
| Don't you feel like you're doing that in general, though, when you're doing your comedy and hanging out with your friends and the companions and shit? | ||
| Yes, but when you're in the middle of Alaska, like we're literally miles from anything, including other animals, by the way, you just end up... | ||
| There's something that happens to you where you just want to say the most outrageous shit. | ||
| Because you're like, how can I one-up... | ||
| Joe, now, I'm going to say something outrageous that's going to even shock me. | ||
| No, I get that, but you could do it at dinner, though, right? | ||
| Yeah, but there's a difference. | ||
| When you're in the woods and you're doing this, and me and Brian are specifically geared for fucking with each other in those kind of situations. | ||
| And I also know that what he's saying, he doesn't mean, and he's joking, and I'm expecting him to take it to another place that's even more fucked up, and it just keeps going. | ||
| And when we were in Montana the first time, it was literally $5. | ||
| Days of gay jokes. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| And with a few wife-beating jokes thrown in there. | ||
| I took a shit. | ||
| A few choke-fuck jokes. | ||
| I took a shit and Joe took a fucking... | ||
| He put a flag in it. | ||
| I made an aluminum foil flag. | ||
| He fucking put a flag in it. | ||
| In my shit. | ||
| Terrible shit, too. | ||
| A terrible mountain. | ||
| Dehydrated mountain. | ||
| You don't bury your shit in the woods? | ||
| I'm not fucking buried. | ||
| I'm in the middle of... | ||
| Dude, that place sucked. | ||
| I'm sorry about the shit. | ||
| Nobody's going to be like, God damn it, in the Missouri Brakes where it's all clear and nothing. | ||
| How dare you take a shit there? | ||
| You ruined the landscape. | ||
| Fuck. | ||
| It was a mustard poo. | ||
| You were supposed to take it and put it in bags, and most of the time we did that. | ||
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No bags. | |
| Why? | ||
| Occasionally, because you're supposed to protect the environment from your poo. | ||
| You don't want a bunch of shit, especially your shit after you've been eating that dehydrated mountain food that comes in a pouch. | ||
| You can't just bury it? | ||
| You can bury it too. | ||
| Yeah, I buried it. | ||
| That's probably the best way. | ||
| You can bury it or you can put a flag in it. | ||
| No, you bury it like a gentleman. | ||
| With a message that says, Brian was here. | ||
| Well, he shit on a log and then I put an aluminum foil. | ||
| I'm seeing if I have it in here. | ||
| Aluminum foil flag in the log. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It was good times. | ||
| Yeah, and by the way, we were in our late 40s. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| This was a couple months ago. | ||
| Tax-paying adults. | ||
| Tax and adults. | ||
| How often do you think you guys could do that? | ||
| Like once a year? | ||
| I do it. | ||
| I could do it once a month. | ||
| Once a month. | ||
| I mean, if I'm with him, which is the fun of being an idiot. | ||
| You can go hunting once a month. | ||
| No, but being an idiot, being out there and being miserable, but kind of having fun at the same time, there's something about it that makes... | ||
| It brings out, in many ways, the best of you. | ||
| You have a good time, even though you're miserable. | ||
| It's bonding. | ||
| You're miserable, and you're cold, and you're wet, but you're laughing your ass off. | ||
| When we finally made that fire, have you ever enjoyed a fire that much? | ||
| Never. | ||
| We were rained on for five days in a row, and then we finally got a dry night, and we got a bunch of the guys from camp to find as many small pieces of dry wood as we could. | ||
| We stacked it on top of each other and started lighting Fritos. | ||
| You were wet. | ||
| Joe didn't bring the proper rain gear. | ||
| He was basically wet, including his sleeping bag. | ||
| He was wet the whole time. | ||
| And I remember we were in that tent, and I was looking at you, and you were just talking, but you were shaking. | ||
| You were shivering. | ||
| Constantly like a little shiver. | ||
| And your lips were going, and they were jiggling back and forth. | ||
| You had a set of lips on you. | ||
| You had a set of lips. | ||
| He's got huge lips. | ||
| And you just kept talking and it was just, guess what? | ||
| It's the morning, our body temperature is low, we're wet, we're cold as fuck, and we're going to be cold until we start walking. | ||
| Yeah, but once you start walking, even though you're wet, you're wearing wool clothes. | ||
| That's the thing about those first light merino wool. | ||
| Keeps you warm even when you're wet. | ||
| How many days? | ||
| We were there for six days. | ||
| It was awesome though, man. | ||
| Even though it sucked, I think about the memory and it was awesome. | ||
| And then also the landscape was awesome. | ||
| It's so wild there, man. | ||
| You guys should do that shit every Saturday at Runyon or some shit. | ||
| You'd be surprised though because the memory brings you back. | ||
| That's turkey hunting. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Look at how handsome I am. | ||
| I mean, we are. | ||
| That was in Northern California. | ||
| That was hilarious because we would go turkey hunting during the day and then Brian and I would go to the finest restaurants at night because there was all these amazing restaurants in Napa. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| And these fucking guys wanted to pretend they were camping, so they went back to this Airbnb house and made fucking burgers. | ||
| I go, come on, guys. | ||
| It's on me. | ||
| Let's go eat. | ||
| Let's get wine. | ||
| Yes. | ||
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They didn't want to. | |
| Well, that's the way to do it. | ||
| Yes! | ||
| I'm down for that. | ||
| Yes, we drink the best wine and eat the best food in the world. | ||
| Brian and I went to this fucking insane restaurant and I had this short rib risotto that I still jerk off to this day. | ||
| God, that's fucking fresh. | ||
| It had like shaved squash, like a pumpkin, like a pumpkin-y I haven't eaten it today either, so I'm starving. | ||
| With risotto and this rich burgundy red wine sauce for the short ribs. | ||
| I'm getting nostalgic right now, looking at these pictures for real. | ||
| Do we have a good time, man? | ||
| You ain't gonna cry. | ||
| I just did one without you. | ||
| It wasn't as fun. | ||
| Well, you know, you didn't bring me. | ||
| Well, I couldn't. | ||
| You don't know how to shoot a bow and arrow, you fuck. | ||
| Fuck, that's right. | ||
| But you could be there for moral support and just like, hold Joe's hips. | ||
| I could have practiced and I could have held your hips while you shot. | ||
| You could do that. | ||
| I could have gotten your ear while you were drawing and I could have gone, control your breathing, control your breathing, control your breathing. | ||
| This is going to feel like what it is and it is what it is. | ||
| You know, the more spectacular thing about it or the weirdest thing about it is being introduced to the world of public land. | ||
| That's one of the weirder things about hunting that I didn't anticipate. | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| We own human beings that live in the United States and pay taxes. | ||
| We own enormous chunks of land that are public land that you can go hiking on and rafting and you can go fishing and hunting if you have the proper tags and licenses. | ||
| And it's not like this anywhere in the world. | ||
| We have this incredible resource. | ||
| We have all this public land that you can go and explore on. | ||
| And it's all amazing. | ||
| There's so much amazing wilderness in this country. | ||
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Where were you? | |
| We were in Nevada in the high country desert. | ||
| What is that like? | ||
| Five hours outside of Reno. | ||
| You go to Reno and then you go five hours into the desert. | ||
| Hot as fuck? | ||
| You drove five hours? | ||
| What the fuck are you hunting up there? | ||
| Mule deer. | ||
| And what's that topography like? | ||
| Oh, it's alien, man. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| These hills that are covered in sage and then these patches of small mahogany and like desert trees. | ||
| And there's springs. | ||
| You find springs, and the animals generally go near the springs, and the springs are really easy to find. | ||
| Because you're looking on this sort of grayish, greenish, dry landscape, and then you see these lush green patches. | ||
| And then you go to those lush green patches, and that's where there's springs, and that's where a lot of animals tend to congregate. | ||
| It's fucking amazing. | ||
| Are you allowed to use a drone to hunt? | ||
| No. | ||
| In most states, they're starting to stop that. | ||
| But in some states, yes. | ||
| Some states, it's illegal. | ||
| And most of what they're doing is they're using them to spot. | ||
| It's super controversial what you're allowed to do and what you're not allowed to do. | ||
| With technology? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| In Nevada, where we were, you're allowed to use walkie-talkies. | ||
| So you could tell me where a deer is, and it's totally illegal. | ||
| But if we were in Montana, that would be illegal. | ||
| How the fuck are they going to tell? | ||
| Well, you don't just don't... | ||
| If you have rules, you really should follow them. | ||
| Because the rules that are in place... | ||
| It's so fucking hard, if you are bow and arrow hunting, to close in on a mule deer. | ||
| It's so hard that they're like, yeah, go ahead, use a walkie-talkie. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But Montana's like, yeah, but what if a guy has a rifle? | ||
| We have to kind of have universal rules across the bat. | ||
| And if you have a rifle in Montana, you're dealing with much more wooded area. | ||
| You could kind of pinpoint where the animal is maybe a little bit better. | ||
| Maybe it's a little too much. | ||
| And Montana's like a real traditional state. | ||
| Like, they don't even allow lighted arrow knocks. | ||
| You can't have a light on your arrow sight, on your bow sight. | ||
| You can't have a light. | ||
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Makes sense. | |
| Why the walkie-talkie law? | ||
| Because they don't want you to be able to have a bunch of friends. | ||
| Here's a perfect example. | ||
| One state, Arizona is famous for allowing the use of walkie-talkies and allowing the use of electronics. | ||
| And there's certain tags that are really hard to draw. | ||
| There's a unit called 13B. And it's called the Strip. | ||
| It's a strip between Utah and Arizona. | ||
| And it's so coveted and so cherished because the animals are enormous. | ||
| And it's really well-matched. | ||
| Pull up... | ||
| Arizona Strip, Mule, Deer, Buck. | ||
| These things look like elk. | ||
| Some of them are like 270 inches. | ||
| Enormous fucking when they measure each time. | ||
| You know what else is huge? | ||
| Columbus, Ohio. | ||
| Ohio has giant whitetails. | ||
| Okay, a lot of the Midwest does. | ||
| But my point is, this one area, because it's so difficult to get a tag there, A guy will pull up one of these animals. | ||
| This is a deer, by the way. | ||
| This isn't an elk. | ||
| These are enormous deer. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| So this is a once-in-a-lifetime tag. | ||
| To be able to hunt one of these animals is literally once-in-a-lifetime. | ||
| Why is it so tough to hunt them? | ||
| Because they make sure that very few people can hunt them so they can keep the populations very strong and high. | ||
| Because the genetics are so powerful. | ||
| So when a guy gets a tag for a deer like this... | ||
| If you get a 13B tag for Arizona, you want to get a deer like this. | ||
| So these people literally will bring 20 of their friends. | ||
| This is a once-in-a-lifetime thing. | ||
| So your buddies come and help out, and they all get around on these different points, and they glass, meaning they set up tripods, they put on binoculars and spotting scopes, and they locate the animal, and then everyone's coordinating. | ||
| So you've got to go 100 yards down, go down there, he's at the bottom of the canyon, and then the other guy's at the other end, and he's like, we've got an eye on him out here, he's not coming this way. | ||
| That's not hunting, is it? | ||
| It is, though. | ||
| It's still difficult. | ||
| Because, first of all, it's impossible to get a tag. | ||
| But for these people, it's so important that they capitalize on this one opportunity they're ever going to have in their life to hunt in this area. | ||
| Look at that deer. | ||
| It's very controversial. | ||
| That wouldn't be hunting. | ||
| Some people say, oh, you should be able to have one guy who's communicating with you. | ||
| And some people say, you shouldn't ever be able to communicate. | ||
| It's always going to be a debate. | ||
| But with these guys, the way it's set up, you can have a bunch of people. | ||
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So... | |
| I can tell you that even if you have a lot of people, I'm sure a lot of people leave that hunting ground empty-handed. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| The rate of success is super low. | ||
| Dude, that's an elk. | ||
| Look at that rack. | ||
| You know they're using drones to keep the rhinos safe in Africa now. | ||
| To farm? | ||
| Yeah, to make sure the poachers, and to find poachers now, the drones are a beast down there. | ||
| It's helping with that. | ||
| We're going to have to have some drone rules over the next few years because they're going to get bigger and better and quicker and easier. | ||
| And smaller and more stealthy. | ||
| Yeah, they're going to look like bugs. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| You're going to be able to spy on your ex-girlfriend by floating one right in her house when she opens her door. | ||
| Can't wait. | ||
| She's not even going to know. | ||
| Just kill everything. | ||
| She's not even going to know. | ||
| They might have silent, solar-powered, Tesla-made drones. | ||
| Alright, kids. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| You leave it on that? | ||
| I guess so. | ||
| You just reminded me I'm a Tesla. | ||
| I've got to get home, but I love all three of you. | ||
| Come see me in New York, everybody. | ||
| Where are you going to be in New York, Brian Callum? | ||
| I'll be at the Gotham Comedy Club. | ||
| You're going to be there, too. | ||
| Goddamn. | ||
| Yes, I am. | ||
| I'm doing that in November. | ||
| I'm there September 16th and 17th, Friday, Saturday. | ||
| It's a great club. | ||
| Hey, B, where are you September 22nd, though? | ||
| Buddy, we are in Oxnard, California. | ||
| Wrong. | ||
| You are dead wrong. | ||
| We are in San Jose, California. | ||
| That's what I meant. | ||
| I'm glad you're paying attention. | ||
| That's what I meant. | ||
| I meant that. | ||
| When are we in Oxnard? | ||
| That's October. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| You were just there, right? | ||
| I sure was. | ||
| How was that new club? | ||
| Loved it. | ||
| Levity Live is what it's called, right? | ||
| Levity Live, yeah. | ||
| It was great. | ||
| Nice. | ||
| Edgy Bra, September 11th, EBI. Next Sunday on UFC Fight Pass. | ||
| September 22nd. | ||
| Get tickets, see it live, EBIOfficial.com. | ||
| Check out the EBI 8 Countdown Show on YouTube. | ||
| Oh, shit, everybody. | ||
| Alright, that's it, folks. | ||
| See you soon. | ||
| Bye. |
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