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March 16, 2016 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #775 - Greg Fitzsimmons
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Powerful Greg Fitzsimmons.
greg fitzsimmons
Coming out of the gate with a fucking orgasmic...
unidentified
Yes!
joe rogan
That's Donald Trump's face.
You ever notice that Donald Trump's face is running away from his skull?
greg fitzsimmons
He looks like he needs vaginal rejuvenation surgery on his cheeks.
joe rogan
What happens to a person's face that it just doesn't like their head anymore?
Just pulling away.
greg fitzsimmons
Yours is hanging in.
joe rogan
But he's not that fat.
greg fitzsimmons
No.
joe rogan
You know what I mean?
Like, Chris Christie's face is in better shape than his.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
Well, being fat helps because, yeah, it pushes all the wrinkles out.
You get no wrinkles when you're fat.
But mine...
I'm Irish.
When you're Irish, man, you hit 40 and all of a sudden you turn into a rotten apple core.
All the meat falls off the bones and your cheeks sink in.
joe rogan
They're close to a fix for that.
greg fitzsimmons
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, they're real close.
They're close to this guy, I think his name is Dr. Peter Welling, the doctor's name that invented Regenikine, which is that blood spinning procedure that Kobe Bryant, all these athletes go to Germany for.
He's invented some way to rejuvenate your body's production of collagen.
And they're going to shoot it into old ladies and they're going to look hot again.
greg fitzsimmons
I'll be all over that shit.
joe rogan
Because that's what makes you wrinkle.
That's what makes your skin lose its elasticity.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
It's collagen.
And, you know, if you look at, like, if you go to the gym, you go to the gym, right?
greg fitzsimmons
Hell yeah.
joe rogan
Do you have, like, one of those older ladies at the gym where you're like, I fucking smashed that.
Some lady that's in her 50s, but she's just doing squats every day, just hanging on like that.
You know that kitten in that poster?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Hang in there, baby!
greg fitzsimmons
Hang in there, baby!
unidentified
She's just hanging out of that curtain.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
She is not going softly into that night.
greg fitzsimmons
That's right.
When you're 23 and you're in shape, you can get out of shape for a few months and then jump right back into shape again.
When you're Hang On Kitty, you take a week off.
You almost won't get back to where you started again.
joe rogan
That's one of them, yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
This is a picture we're looking at of a cute little kitten hanging from a stick.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
When you get to be like that age, getting out of shape is really easy and getting back into shape is fucking nightmarish.
The first day back, you're like, whoa.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
I'm old.
greg fitzsimmons
I went to do push-ups today and I used to be able to bang out 50 push-ups because I'm skinny as shit and I did gymnastics my whole life and so I just had a good muscle to weight ratio.
I fucking struggled to do 15. I was shaking.
I was like, what the fuck?
It really bummed me out.
I was like, wow.
Because I said to myself, to get back to where I was would require a lot of uncomfortable pain over a long period of time.
joe rogan
Didn't you have like a real shoulder injury or something?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, I got surgery.
joe rogan
What was wrong with your shoulder?
greg fitzsimmons
The cartilage can just wear out sometimes in between your...
There's three bones that come together in your shoulder.
Clavicle and whatever the other two are.
And so they basically go in and in two different spots they go into your shoulder and they just saw away the tips of the bones.
And then scar tissue forms on each bone and it acts as a new cartilage.
unidentified
Whoa.
greg fitzsimmons
And you know what?
Fucking arm is good as new.
Unbelievable.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Wow.
How strange.
greg fitzsimmons
Everything was great.
Other than getting hooked on Vicodin, everything about it was very positive.
joe rogan
How long was it hooked on Vicodin?
greg fitzsimmons
Nine months.
joe rogan
Whoa.
greg fitzsimmons
It's unbelievable how many doctors will prescribe you Vicodin if you ask.
joe rogan
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
The surgeon, the primary care physician, the physical therapist, and then I go to a psychopharmacologist for my other little mood needs.
And I don't know why this motherfucker started writing me scripts too.
joe rogan
For pain.
greg fitzsimmons
Then you got friends.
Every friend's got a medicine cabinet, Joe Rogan.
Let me make an announcement right now.
If you're a friend of mine and you had me over in 2013, you may want to restock your...
Your barbiturate supply.
joe rogan
Did you go into people's cabinet and just scoop a few out?
unidentified
Oh no!
greg fitzsimmons
It was bad.
I was bad.
joe rogan
That was only three years ago?
greg fitzsimmons
No, it was probably five, five, six years ago.
joe rogan
Wow.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
greg fitzsimmons
And I even drank in, you know, 25 years.
joe rogan
So was it a slow, creepy thing where it slowly crept in on you?
How did you realize it had you?
greg fitzsimmons
You don't realize until you stop for a few days and you go dark.
If you don't take it for a few days, you get so close to suicidal.
unidentified
Whoa!
greg fitzsimmons
Because what happens is your receptors for your dopamine get clogged by barbiturates.
So if you stop taking them, the dopamine can't get into those receptor holes.
unidentified
Whoa.
greg fitzsimmons
Because they're filled, yeah.
So you can't feel happiness until eventually those go away, and that's why it's so hard to kick.
joe rogan
Oh my God.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
So how did you kick it?
greg fitzsimmons
Just went dark, white-knuckled it like I did drinking.
joe rogan
That is how you did it.
I remember when you did drinking like that.
Well, I met you right after you did that.
I think when I met you, you were still drinking, and then right after I met you, quit.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, that's right.
That's exactly right.
joe rogan
And I was amazed.
I know a lot of people.
Most people, it's a struggle.
You have to go through therapy.
You have to go through AA. You have to go through all this.
But you just knocked it off.
greg fitzsimmons
Well, I did do therapy.
And also, my dad was an alcoholic.
So I had gone to Al-Anon meetings for probably about a year before I quit.
joe rogan
Also, you knew the consequences.
greg fitzsimmons
I knew the consequences.
I also knew the steps.
Once you learn the steps, it becomes like, okay, I know what I need to do.
I need to acknowledge that I have a problem.
I need to work on whatever my higher power is.
I went through it without going to...
Because I went to some meetings and it was just like, too many guys.
You know those old bits those guys in Boston would do about...
What was the guy's name?
Teddy Bergeron?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
And he's like, you see these guys at these meetings and they act like they got it all figured out.
They're standing up there like...
And I can proudly say after 15 years, I no longer crave alcohol.
And he's like, I'm in the back and I crack a soda.
they're like, where is it?
unidentified
Where is it?
joe rogan
Teddy Bergeron.
greg fitzsimmons
Ah, fuck, man.
joe rogan
How many times have we talked about him on the podcast?
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, not enough.
joe rogan
But he's one of the all-time greats that people just never found out about.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, the most raw talent.
Jerry Lewis kind of talent where you just go like, oh yeah, this guy's special.
joe rogan
Jerry Lewis?
greg fitzsimmons
Jerry Lewis was a talented dude.
You don't see it?
joe rogan
Oh, I mean, sure.
greg fitzsimmons
They're not similar.
I just mean God-given talent.
joe rogan
But a weird comparison.
Why'd you go with Jerry Lewis?
greg fitzsimmons
I guess just the physicality.
They're almost like dancers, the way they can move on stage.
Teddy would just glide around in his hand movements, the way he'd slide.
It was just kind of elegant.
joe rogan
His timing was just impeccable.
I remember when I was an open mic night guy.
I just started, and Teddy did a set.
And he did a set, like, you know, just dropped in and did like 10 minutes.
And I remember thinking, I fucking know nothing.
I don't understand anything.
I barely, I shouldn't even be up there.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
I shouldn't even be allowed to do this.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
But he, the pills got that guy.
I watched that.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
I watched, I remember the Matapois it in?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Do you remember that gig?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, down by Rhode Island.
joe rogan
Scott Papakuri used to have that gig.
Yeah.
And he booked me and Teddy.
greg fitzsimmons
Well, it was like a classy, old hotel.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, it was like a kind of bed and breakfast or something like that, right?
So it had downstairs, it had this little showroom, and it was real tight seating and small.
It was an excellent gig.
Like, when you got the gig, you were psyched.
greg fitzsimmons
It was a great gig.
joe rogan
And it was in kind of like a resort-y sort of vacation-y area.
So people were partying, having a good time.
So it was a fun crowd.
And I remember Teddy showed up and he was just zonked, zonked out on pills.
And it was just so sad to watch.
It was like, this guy was an all-time great.
And he was just so out of it, man.
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
I remember being up at the Andover.
Who was the club?
It was a Dick Daugherty gig.
It was at a club called Chickland.
And what was it?
Something Grill.
Grill 93?
joe rogan
Yeah, something like that.
99 or 93. Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
And so Teddy comes in on Friday night, and he's late as shit.
I'm the feature, and I'm stretching with material I don't have.
I'm doing your material at this point.
I got my hand above my head doing my Revere Girl impression.
And he comes in late and then I see him talk to the club owner.
He's like, I wouldn't be able to happen.
I'm coming up 93 North and this guy side swipes me, knocks off my mirror.
This is after the show.
He says, come out and look at my car.
And we got to the car and his side mirror is hanging off.
And the club owner is like, alright.
So Saturday night comes.
I'm up there.
I get the stretch sign again.
I gotta do another half hour.
Teddy shows up and he walks in and he goes, I got side swiped on 93 North.
You gotta see my side view mirror.
The guy's like, are you kidding?
He's like, no, it just fucking happened.
joe rogan
Oh, God.
greg fitzsimmons
He's like, wow.
joe rogan
So he was so out of it, if you're God, he told the same lie two nights in a row.
That's his move.
Just kicked his fucking mirror.
Pills, man.
You were swiping them from your friends.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
It was ugly.
Brendan Shaw, my friend, had a nose job.
His nose got broken in a UFC fight, and he got hooked on pain pills.
greg fitzsimmons
He's Brian's partner.
joe rogan
Yeah, on Fighter and Kid.
greg fitzsimmons
What was he hooked on?
joe rogan
Oxys, I think it was.
greg fitzsimmons
Oxy is where you can't turn back.
That's the fucking hardcore.
joe rogan
Really?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, you start out with oxycodone.
It's a little bit lighter.
Then you get into Vicodin and, you know...
joe rogan
We had those guys on Chris and Mark Bell from Prescription Thugs.
It's a new documentary that's out now on iTunes.
They're the same guys who did Bigger, Stronger, Faster and Trophy Kids.
Great guys.
Great documentary guys.
While this guy's doing the documentary, he's doing a documentary around prescription drugs and how many people get prescribed them and how insane the business is and how over-prescribed they are.
While he's doing it, he has to get hip replacement surgery and he gets hooked on pills.
unidentified
Shit.
joe rogan
While he's doing the documentary, he's hooked on pills.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
And he's got to, like, kind of cover it up, and he's got a hot...
He's embarrassed, because, like, he's trying to put together this documentary, and he's hooked on pills, and then finally, in the documentary, once he becomes clean, then he just comes clean in the documentary and explains...
unidentified
Oh, wow!
joe rogan
...I was on pills.
greg fitzsimmons
Wow, that's amazing.
joe rogan
Yeah, he takes you out to his car, and he shows you his car, like, how he fucking collided into shit when he was all pilled up.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
And he shows all the dents and his headlights hanging off and shit.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's dark, man.
greg fitzsimmons
Well, Philip Seymour Hoffman got back on drugs because he was doing a role that was very...
Was he on drugs in the role or was he drunk?
But whatever it was, he'd been sober for like 20 years.
And going into this place night after night doing this play, he started taking pills again.
Oh.
I just don't get why doctors prescribe pills to somebody who's a known addict.
joe rogan
They don't give a fuck.
greg fitzsimmons
They don't give a shit.
joe rogan
I think doctors get so used to people being sick and people dying, and it just becomes normal to them.
I had this woman, Dr. Rhonda Patrick, in the other day.
She's a research scientist, and she was talking about A lot of the experiments that they had to do where they had to kill mice.
And when she first started doing these experiments, she would get really sad and she'd cry and it was just really upsetting.
After a couple months, she's just gassing these motherfuckers like it's Auschwitz.
She didn't even care.
You just get totally used to it.
And I think for doctors, you're a doctor for 10 years, 20 years, 30 years, 40 years.
All these patients are sick and dying and all fucked up.
No one sees you if they're doing great.
Everybody sees you because they got a tumor, a broken leg, and you just take these pills and get the fuck out of here.
greg fitzsimmons
You're just a mouse.
Here, have some cheese and some pills.
joe rogan
Chris Bell, the guy who made that documentary, just sent me a text yesterday saying that...
I'll forward it to you, Jamie, and you can put it up here.
But he was saying that there's a new law that just got passed.
Doctors are urged...
Okay, this is what it is.
It's on USA Today.
You can find it from yesterday.
New guidelines for prescription to reduce abuse and overdoses.
So they're urging doctors to try to do something about this because they're finally starting to realize.
And I think a lot of it is just because of all these documentaries and all these internet blogs that are coming out and YouTube videos and all these news stories where people are really kind of grasping the magnitude of this problem.
greg fitzsimmons
I just don't understand why there's not one database where you can't have multiple doctors writing prescriptions for the same patient.
I mean, if you go to CVS or Rite Aid, there should be a listing of any time you were specifically for opiates.
unidentified
There isn't?
greg fitzsimmons
No!
Fuck no!
I mean, it didn't stop me!
And I can remember getting a fresh bottle, you know, with 30 pills in it and just holding your hand like, oh, fuck yeah.
joe rogan
Joy.
A bottle of joy.
greg fitzsimmons
You never took anything like that?
joe rogan
No, never.
I took one time when I had my knee operated on, my first knee operation, which was a patella tendon graft, which is particularly painful because they take a piece of bone out of your shin and a piece of bone out of your kneecap.
And it's attached to a strip of your patella tendon.
Your patella tendon is a large tendon that's in the front of your knee.
It's this one that goes from your knee down to your shin, right here, the fat one.
And what they do is they take a slice out of that, and then they open you up like a fish, and then they use that slice, and that replaces your ACL. So that becomes a new ACL. Because this patella tendon graft is really big, and it's really strong.
You don't need the whole thing.
So they take a slice of that and it creates a new ACL. And the pain was pretty insane around the places where they cut the bone out.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
It was just like fire.
So they gave me something.
I don't remember if it was Vicodin or Percocet.
But I remember I took it once and I felt so stupid.
Like, I was just like, I think it was Vicodin.
I was so dumb.
I mean, maybe it's just my own biology, the way I reacted to it.
I was like, I'd rather take the pain.
So I sold him to this dude at the pool hall.
This guy named Jeff.
This guy Jeff, he always, he would buy and sell pills.
He was the pill head.
He looked like a classic dirt bag from a fucking Beavis and Butthead cartoon.
He had long hair that would go down like this and one of those mustaches that curled all the way down to the bottom where his chin connected.
He was such a dirtbag, this guy.
greg fitzsimmons
He had a pickup truck, rusted out.
joe rogan
Probably had one of those El Caminos.
unidentified
Probably didn't have a real pickup truck.
greg fitzsimmons
And he would drink beer out of the back of it with some friends near the beach.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, definitely.
He was such a dirtbag.
Nice guy, though.
unidentified
But he was just a classic, classic guy.
joe rogan
And I was like, I can't fucking take these things.
He goes, you got them at home?
Bring them in, I'll buy them off you.
I'm like, alright.
So I sold them.
I became a drug dealer.
greg fitzsimmons
Did you give him the bottle with your name on it?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
Who the fuck was I back then?
greg fitzsimmons
I stand behind my...
joe rogan
I was a nobody, you know?
It wasn't like me today or anything with my address or anything.
unidentified
I was just a struggling stand-up comedian who liked to play pool.
greg fitzsimmons
Selling drugs.
joe rogan
Selling drugs to a dirtbag.
greg fitzsimmons
Slinging opiates at the pool hall.
joe rogan
Yeah, I was psyched to get that money too.
greg fitzsimmons
Hell yeah.
joe rogan
It's interesting what 50 bucks is when you really need it versus 50 bucks when you don't need it.
Money loses, it doesn't mean anything.
That's why I never understand someone that works incredibly hard but they're already insanely wealthy and And they're doing something they don't enjoy doing.
They're constantly trying to conquer and build a business and keep going and going.
But they already have billions of dollars and what they're doing is making them miserable.
greg fitzsimmons
Not only that, take it to a next level where you got a guy like the Koch brothers.
joe rogan
Yes.
greg fitzsimmons
And they are not only working way harder than they need to.
They've already covered the next 50 generations of kids that never have to work in their family.
But they're killing the planet.
So if you're thinking about a legacy for your great-great-grandkids, they're going to live in a 140-degree Earth with no water, surrounded by fucking, you know, killers.
Mad Max.
joe rogan
Do you think that's what's going to happen?
greg fitzsimmons
I think so.
Yeah.
joe rogan
You think it's all going to fall apart?
greg fitzsimmons
I'm not stressed out about it.
I just feel like it's going to happen.
I'm going to encourage my kids not to reproduce.
I think that they're going to skate through.
There'll be a lot of terrorism and there's going to be a lot of flooding and some crazy storms.
Third world countries are all going to be in an upheaval because the environment is going to affect the poor first.
Of course.
joe rogan
I wonder how much of it is blown out of proportion and how much of it can be mitigated by new discoveries and new science and new technology.
Solar power.
Did you know, did you know, I didn't know this until Eddie Bravo came over here and I went down the goddamn rabbit hole about Rockefeller.
greg fitzsimmons
His grandson?
joe rogan
Well, yeah.
Did you know that Rockefeller made, there was a conspiracy to get people to use oil instead of alcohol, and that most combustion engines work on alcohol.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
And they work just as good, if not better, on alcohol than they do on gasoline.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
And alcohol, obviously, you don't need fossil fuels, you don't need, or whatever you want to call it.
greg fitzsimmons
You can use any kind of vegetable.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Corn, you know?
They run just as good on that.
greg fitzsimmons
Yep.
joe rogan
What the fuck?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, I mean, he...
Well, between him doing that and then, you know, Ford...
Didn't Ford buy up all the train tracks in Los Angeles to create a car society instead of a train society?
joe rogan
Yeah, there's some sort of conspiracy like that where the automotive industry...
greg fitzsimmons
No, I don't think it's conspiracy.
I think it definitely happened.
joe rogan
I don't mean that it's a conspiracy that it didn't exist.
I mean, they conspired.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, that they conspired.
joe rogan
Yeah, they did conspire to do something like that.
I don't know too much about that, though.
greg fitzsimmons
There's a film about it, the killing of the car or something, yeah.
joe rogan
Well, that's different.
That's a late model.
That's who killed the electric car.
That was when the electric car first...
See, they had electric cars a long fucking time ago.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh yeah, I went to the Museum of Cars and the first cars were electric.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Henry Ford had fenders that were made out of hemp.
That was something we covered the other day.
unidentified
No shit!
joe rogan
Yeah, you could hit him with a hammer.
greg fitzsimmons
Wow.
joe rogan
There's videos of him whacking these fenders with a hammer.
Because hemp fiber is insanely powerful and unbelievably strong and really lightweight.
More powerful than fiberglass, stronger than...
I mean, it's amazing, amazing stuff.
And so he's hitting it with a fucking hammer, and the hammer is bouncing off this hemp fender that he had.
Wow.
greg fitzsimmons
No shit.
joe rogan
Well, back then, man, they were all jockeying for control of this emerging industry, and they didn't see anything bad about just trying to control the market.
Like, fuck these trains.
Fuck your tracks.
I want everybody to have cars.
Like, they didn't think one day it was going to heat up the planet and polar bears are going to drown.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, of course.
I mean, if they could have seen a poster of fucking, you know, polar bears stuck on a little, what do you call those?
joe rogan
Ice floats?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, ice floats.
joe rogan
Did you see that video they got recently of a polar bear chasing down a female and her cub and eating the cub in front of her?
greg fitzsimmons
No!
joe rogan
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
Holy shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, these explorers were there.
It was either explorers or it might have been a cruise.
But they watched it and they were screaming.
They're like, no, no!
And he just chases down the female and she's running full clip but she's got the cub with her and the cub can't run that fast and finally he grabs the cub and eats it.
He eats it right in front of her.
greg fitzsimmons
You think it was his child?
joe rogan
It doesn't matter.
They don't give a fuck.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
They don't give a fuck.
All bears are cannibals.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, there's a real problem with movies like Zootopia, which I took my kids to see the other day, which is really adorable.
Very cute movie.
Not a problem with the movie, but a problem with what comes out of that movie and these fucking, what would you do for a Klondike bar ads and these things that anthropomorphize animals.
Here it is right now if you want to watch it.
See, that's the mother and the cub running, full clip, and there's the big daddy running behind it.
unidentified
Right, so we're just going to watch it on the screen.
joe rogan
Can you go full screen with it, though?
jamie vernon
I did, and it's not going for some reason.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
greg fitzsimmons
That's the mom trying to head off the...
joe rogan
Yeah, trying, but he's like, get out of here, bitch.
She can't do anything.
He's like twice her size.
If you want to stay tuned, there it is.
Boom.
That's what they do.
It's awful.
They eat them.
When bears come out of hibernation, one of the first things they do is head for the cubs.
greg fitzsimmons
Really?
joe rogan
The male bears immediately go and kill the cubs.
They eat them.
greg fitzsimmons
The mom is trying to put up a fight.
joe rogan
A little bit.
But she's just so much smaller.
She's scared.
And she knows the baby's already dead.
There's nothing she can do.
So she turns and then just runs.
She realizes at a certain point in time this motherfucker might eat her too.
Which does happen, by the way.
greg fitzsimmons
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, they cannibalize each other.
They kill each other and cannibalize each other.
Oftentimes when you hunt bears, if you kill one bear and you leave it to go back and get a truck to pull it out of the woods, when you do that you come back and other bears will be eating it.
Bears are all cannibals.
But my point was that, like, people have this idea of what these wild animals are, that, you know, they live in harmony, in nature, and it's chaos.
greg fitzsimmons
Smokey the bear.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's chaos and conflict and murder all day long.
And cannibalism, especially bears.
100% cannibals.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
All of them.
When we were in Alberta, my friend who runs a hunting camp up there watched a male bear kill a cub In front of the female.
The female tried to fight him off.
The male bear killed the cub.
She chased him off eventually, and then she went and finished the cub off and ate it.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, no shit.
joe rogan
She ate her own cub.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah, wow.
greg fitzsimmons
Damn.
joe rogan
That's harsh, man.
Harsh.
greg fitzsimmons
I've gotten mad at my kids, but I pull up a little short of that.
joe rogan
Well, I don't think the male was the father.
He might have been, but who knows?
He might not even know.
I don't think she probably knew either.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, I thought some bears just ate berries and shit.
joe rogan
No.
No.
All bears eat meat.
Well, all North American bears.
They don't eat meat exclusively, but they're omnivores, except polar bears.
Polar bears are 100% predator.
They're the only bear that doesn't eat anything but meat.
They don't have anything up there.
There's no vegetables, so everything they eat is just meat.
They eat seals and anything that fucks up.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, when you look at the territories that certain animals need, like they were doing a thing about mountain lions in Los Angeles.
And each mountain lion needs like 20 square miles of territory just for him.
And if you get within that, it's a fight to the death.
unidentified
That's it.
greg fitzsimmons
Those are the stakes.
And so this one mountain lion was living up in the Santa Monica Mountains, like above the Palisades, Malibu.
And he somehow, because they tag him, he somehow ended up over in Griffith Park.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
He crossed the 405. Did you see what he did?
joe rogan
He killed a koala bear.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh no!
joe rogan
He climbed a fence.
He climbed a 12 foot tall fence covered with barbed wire.
Got over the fence and killed a koala bear and ate it.
greg fitzsimmons
Good for him.
You know?
Where there's a will, there's a way.
joe rogan
Well, they found these mountain lions in San Francisco.
You know, because California doesn't have hunting laws for mountain lions, I mean, they have laws against it.
You cannot hunt mountain lions, which wildlife biologists are seriously against, because when you can't control predator populations, they just breed and breed and breed until it becomes too many of them.
Like, they don't have any predators other than man.
So, you know, people could say, well, let nature balance and take its...
Well, that means they move into your neighborhood and eat your friends.
greg fitzsimmons
We're part of the balance.
joe rogan
Yes, we're part of the balance.
And we think we're not because we have the internet and a fucking cell phone, but the reality is they don't give a shit about that.
So anyway, these mountain lions that they've been killing, because what they have to do is when they invade neighborhoods and start killing dogs and threatening people, they have to kill them.
Well, they killed over a hundred of them in the last year.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah?
joe rogan
Yeah, they have to shoot them.
They just do it privately.
They don't talk about it.
It doesn't make the news.
But when they shot them, they found out that their primary diet is pets.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, of course.
joe rogan
Cats, dogs.
That's their primary diet.
There's only a small percentage of deer in their bellies.
greg fitzsimmons
Did you ever see any cats around your house?
joe rogan
I've never seen a cat around my house, but I saw a cat that killed my dog in Colorado, and I saw another mountain lion in Santa Barbara on a fucking residential road.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah?
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Big?
joe rogan
It wasn't that big.
It was like a small dog, like 50, 60 pounds, something like that, but it was big enough to freak me the fuck out.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, but people know in the valley you don't leave your dog out in your yard.
unidentified
No.
greg fitzsimmons
You just don't.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can't.
greg fitzsimmons
It'll be fucking gone.
joe rogan
Well, coyotes mostly.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
But the mountain lion that I saw in Santa Monica, or Santa Barbara rather, looked like a coyote.
It was that size.
It wasn't that big.
I thought it was a coyote and then I saw the tail.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And I was like, oh shit, that's a cat.
Yeah.
Seeing a cat is so much creepier than seeing a coyote.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because you know that they...
Like a coyote, I'm pretty sure I could fuck up a coyote.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, if a coyote jumped on me, I know I'd just grab him by his tail and smash his fucking head off the ground.
I'd figure out a way to win.
greg fitzsimmons
I'd probably get bit.
unidentified
I think it's...
greg fitzsimmons
I think it's because of Bugs Bunny and, you know, the Wile E. Coyote.
He was such a doof.
You just can't take the breed seriously now.
joe rogan
Well, they're scary.
I mean, if a coyote wanted to kill you, it would be a real...
I mean, if a rat wanted to kill you, it'd be a real fucking problem.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
But I'm pretty sure if you could snap and get into full rage, psychopath mode, you could probably kill a coyote.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
But not a cat.
I think a mountain lion, you'd be fucked.
A 50-pound mountain lion, you'd be fucked.
greg fitzsimmons
And they spring so fucking fast.
joe rogan
So fast.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
They're so fast and they're so powerful.
And if you look at their bodies in comparison to like, they're like one of the most powerful cats, pound for pound.
They have enormous wrists and forearms.
greg fitzsimmons
And their shoulders are ripped.
I try to get shoulders like that at the gym.
I say to my trainer, I want mountain lion shoulders.
unidentified
And so...
greg fitzsimmons
They have a machine, you know?
joe rogan
A shoulder machine?
greg fitzsimmons
The shoulder machine that's the mountain lion when you put it in and there's little paws and you growl and you put on...
You know what just happened?
There were people dressed as animals at...
I just did the Addison Improv.
Good club.
joe rogan
Great club.
greg fitzsimmons
And there was a convention going on at my hotel.
Furries?
Furries.
There were hundreds of furries and they were fantastic.
They had like, you know, one is a zebra, a lot of like unicorns and fucking rabbits.
joe rogan
All mascots, right?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, it looked like a bunch of college mascots, but then some of them, then you saw the dark side creep in, like some of them had little studded collars on, because apparently at night shit gets a little weird with some of them.
You know, there's holes in the costume, and there's some furry sex going on.
joe rogan
A lot of furry sex.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, but they were great.
I took pictures with like a hundred of them.
I just kept asking.
And the thing is, they're really into hugging.
Like, the rule is, if you just ask, any of them will hug you.
joe rogan
Really?
greg fitzsimmons
And I would go downstairs and get a cup of coffee.
I'd hug, like, three fucking guys.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
greg fitzsimmons
Can I have a hug?
Sure.
They just wrap their arms around you and pat you on the back.
joe rogan
And they all had their helmets on?
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, they keep them on.
Yeah, they don't fuck around.
joe rogan
When they're drinking the coffee, do they keep it on?
greg fitzsimmons
They don't drink anything.
joe rogan
Oh, you were drinking the coffee.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, I did, but I was talking to the bartender down.
I was having lunch downstairs.
I was like, these guys drink a lot.
He's like, I've sold one beer in the last day to these people.
They're just uber nerds.
joe rogan
Whoa.
greg fitzsimmons
Uber nerds.
They all have like, the ones I saw out of costume had like just those pale, puffy faces that look like they're just, the only light they've gotten is off a computer screen over the last 10 years.
And they're really like Asperger's-y.
You know, we'd be on the elevator and they're like, call out your floors!
And one guy goes, four, the other guy goes, eight.
Yeah, there we go!
Yeah!
joe rogan
It's so bizarre.
unidentified
He goes, 8, 4, 4 is half of 8. We are all looking at Greg's Instagram right now.
joe rogan
Did you talk to them?
greg fitzsimmons
Oh yeah.
joe rogan
Did you ask them what's up?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, they said, you know, we're in my town.
I get made fun of because there's only two of us that do this.
And then I come here and I just feel like so free and so like, you know, among friends.
And there's a bunch of conventions that they go to, like Comic-Con type places.
And they get to know each other.
And, you know, it's like a whole community.
joe rogan
Good for them.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know what I mean, man?
I mean, yeah, it's retarded, but no one's hurting them, or no one's getting hurt.
greg fitzsimmons
I'm jealous of anybody that finds, like, you've always had things you're passionate about, you know, whether it's taekwondo or, you know, mixed martial arts or whatever.
And it's like, to find something in your life, no matter what it is, that gives you a community and gives you something that you kind of grow in over time.
It's great.
It doesn't matter what it is.
joe rogan
You're jealous of that?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, I never had that.
unidentified
You don't have that?
greg fitzsimmons
Never had that.
joe rogan
You have interest, though.
greg fitzsimmons
I think family became the only thing.
Well, stand-up, obviously.
But family is the only thing I ever got really into.
Like, long-term, committed, don't get sick of.
joe rogan
When you're old, you'll be happy that you made that choice.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because there's a lot of people that made the different choice and got really obsessed with something else that led them away from their family.
unidentified
Right, right.
joe rogan
And then they get older and they realize it was just bowling.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
Like, why did I have to go bowl all over the world and miss my kids growing up?
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
Because I got really into bowling.
greg fitzsimmons
There's a dude who was a big showrunner here in L.A. and I was friends with him.
And he got really into horses.
He bought horses and they were up in Pasadena.
And he would go up there on the weekends.
He'd work all week and he'd go up on the weekends.
He had a daughter.
And one night he was in the middle of dinner and he went upstairs to his room and he put a plastic bag over his head and he killed himself.
joe rogan
Are they related?
The horses and the killing himself?
greg fitzsimmons
Well, I think he was away from his family.
He was like, with his free time, that's how he was spending it.
Away all the time.
And that's the only thing I could think of that would cause it.
It's like, you ever sit down with your family, and this is the greatest guy.
I mean, I love this guy.
But it just made me think, like, the saddest times sometimes are when you're with your family, and for whatever reason you're not feeling connected.
You're just feeling like they're talking, and you're pretending to listen, but you're just in your head thinking, why don't I feel close right now?
And, you know, most times you don't feel like that, but once in a while you do.
And those are, like, the saddest moments in my life.
Because it's all right there in front of me.
And I can't touch it.
joe rogan
Ooh, that's deep.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Jesus.
I mean, obviously the guy's dead, so there's no way we could ever really know what his motive was or what the real big factor was that pushed him over the edge.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
But I think sometimes people just aren't fucking happy.
And I think you can narrow it down to a couple different things, or it can be...
It could be a group of experiences from their life that they've never gotten over.
It could be breakups.
I know people that have been dumped in high school or college and just really never recovered.
They had a love and then that person just left them for someone else or something like that and then they never bounced back.
They fucking nosedived, went right into the rocks and just never came out of it.
greg fitzsimmons
Never had another relationship.
joe rogan
Dude, it's fucking, it's normal.
I mean, it happens.
greg fitzsimmons
And it wasn't about that, like you said, it wasn't about that relationship.
It was about what came before it.
Something set the stage for them to be that fragile.
joe rogan
That's the best way to say it.
Yeah, something set the stage.
greg fitzsimmons
Once I loved and it was a gas, soon turned out, had a heart of glass.
joe rogan
Rapture!
She was the first rapper.
greg fitzsimmons
She was!
joe rogan
Or one of them, right?
greg fitzsimmons
Well, no, she was hanging out with the Sugarhill Gang and all those guys.
unidentified
Was she?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
She hung out with them?
greg fitzsimmons
She hung out with the earliest rappers.
It was like at CBGB's and then she'd go uptown.
joe rogan
Wow.
greg fitzsimmons
And she wrapped it out.
joe rogan
The Sugarhill Gang happened, like it was popular when I was in...
I think I was in 7th or 8th grade.
I think I was in 7th grade.
I'm not sure.
One of those.
But when it happened, I remember we were in the cafeteria, and somehow or another someone had a boombox or something like that, and they were playing it in my junior high school.
It was when I was living in Jamaica playing.
My junior high school was super sketchy.
We'd lived in a very bad neighborhood.
And the Jamaica Plain has kind of become gentrified now a little bit.
But when I lived there, like in 1979, 1980, I guess is when I lived there.
It was shit.
It was not good.
And there was kids in our class.
When I was, I guess, like I said, I was 13. And there was a kid in my class that was 17. You're not cheating off him during a quiz.
It was weird like he was there for the first couple days and then he left and then he quit again.
He just never never stuck it out with school and he was there for a little while and he bailed and I was like and I remember that the feeling of sadness and I remember a girl in my class was kind of a hoe.
She was also a little bit older.
She was she was 16 and she's in the 13 year old class, right?
And she asked the teacher She goes, if you're making out with someone and you breathe out and they breathe it in and they breathe out and you breathe it in, do you need any more air?
greg fitzsimmons
It's a good fucking question.
joe rogan
It's not a bad question, but I remember thinking, man, this bitch gets fucked a lot.
That's all I was thinking.
She's like, I'm tired of regular air.
I just want air only from people who are fucking me.
greg fitzsimmons
If your uncle exhales and you...
joe rogan
I mean, you know, hypothetically.
Not my uncle.
greg fitzsimmons
Hypothetically, if you're in the basement and your uncle is whispering into your mouth...
joe rogan
Like, what a crazy question.
Like, if you could just breathe each other's air back and forth.
And the science teacher, who she asked a question to, had to explain that you breathe out carbon dioxide.
Yeah.
He was the first guy that really kind of blew my mind.
You know, you have those science teachers, or any kind of teacher, like when you're really young, that actually make an impression.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, yeah.
Absolutely.
joe rogan
I wish I could remember this guy's name, but he was a Vietnam vet.
And he...
He was a very interesting guy because he was very calm, but people didn't fuck with him.
He had this weird air, but he had a beard, which I always thought was weird.
It was back when people didn't have beards, like a hipster beard.
And I remember he said, if you really want to understand how strange the world is, just go outside and And look up and understand that there's no end to that.
That it goes on forever.
And just, you want to hurt your brain?
Go outside and look up at the sky and realize that space is infinite, which means there's no end to it.
And I remember the whole class, you know, two 16-year-olds and the rest of us were like 13. We're just sitting there like, what the fuck?
There's no end.
Like, how come nobody ever explained that to me?
I never even thought about it before.
I always knew the universe was big.
I always knew space was big.
But when he said that, like, no end.
Like, you start thinking, okay, and then further, and then further, and then further, and there's no wall.
There's no end.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
So there can't be an answer because it didn't come back.
Whatever question you sent out there can't come back because it's still going out there.
It's like when I think about whether or not there's a God, that's to me, I just think of the word infinity.
And I just think, all right, if science can ever grapple with that, then I'll believe that there's no God.
joe rogan
You believe there's a God?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
unidentified
Do you?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
What do you believe?
Like that there's an old dude in a cloud?
greg fitzsimmons
No, nothing like that.
I mean, and I don't...
I can't articulate it that well because I've never set out to make anybody agree with me.
It's just my own personal...
Part of it is I think I was raised very Irish Catholic.
joe rogan
Right.
greg fitzsimmons
And, you know, you learn the Ten Commandments, you know, thou shalt have no other gods before me.
And, you know, you think about this force in the universe that has all the answers.
And I don't know that, like, I ever fully let go of that, but it morphed into my kind of, like, a Taoist.
There's an energy that flows, like, with nature, and that all energy is part of it, and that...
enlightenment is to just become part of that energy, to let go and become part of it.
Like, that to me is God, is that there is something that has created the initial physical laws of the universe, and that those, whatever happens within that happens, but that there was something that engineered the way that there are physiological but that there was something that engineered the way that there are physiological reactions within an atom the same way there are
And I would imagine galaxies within the universe all behave the same way, you know, a proton and electron work in an atom.
joe rogan
Well, I think it's fractal.
I think that's one of the things that they're starting to realize now when they look into subatomic particles and they try to understand what's the relationship between atoms and the universe itself.
And I think as you go deeper and deeper and deeper, it starts to resemble the universe more and more.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
The universe is mostly empty space, right?
greg fitzsimmons
Black matter.
joe rogan
Yeah, which they don't necessarily totally understand.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Black Matter is this weird thing that they're trying to figure out to try to...
From the way it's been explained to me by physicists, because I'm an idiot, and I ask them, I'm like, okay, try to explain this to me.
They don't know why these galaxies behave the way they do.
They don't know why.
And one of the ways they have formulated to try to make it make sense is this concept of dark matter.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, and they say with Einstein's theory of relativity that it is the black matter that has an effect on the way light bends and the way gravity acts upon things.
joe rogan
Physicists are listening to us right now going, what are these fucking monkeys talking about?
greg fitzsimmons
We're not even high!
joe rogan
We should get high and try to work this out.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh my god.
Yeah, it really is intense because when I am feeling down, I do start thinking about the big questions just to shrink everything the fuck down.
joe rogan
Well, I don't know if the word God is serving us very well.
unidentified
You're right.
greg fitzsimmons
You're right.
joe rogan
That's a problem.
I think it's a loaded word.
It's got too much weight behind it.
And also, it's got so many meanings that connect to religious fundamentalism.
It's like ideologies that human beings have obviously created.
Women wearing burkas and all kinds of...
Wacky shit that's connected to these concepts of religious ideology and you say the word God You immediately sort of you have a bridge to these fundamentalist ideas.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, and they're not that good Yeah, I think it's almost like again going back to my Catholicism I guess it just became a replacement for that that concept you know, but you're right I think that there's a there's a lot of stigma attached to it and you know trying it Trying to get somebody to agree with your God is the thing that's always fascinated me.
Like, why do you need a bunch of people to convert and kneel next to you and all have the same beliefs?
Why can't you just have your understanding and be peaceful with it?
joe rogan
That's how you know that veganism is a religion.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because they're all trying to get you to do it, too.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
They're all trying to get...
We're going to save the world.
I mean, a lot of polar bears are eating their kids.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
They're not saving shit.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, right.
joe rogan
I mean, the idea of stopping torture and stopping factory farming, these are all good things.
Yeah.
The less harm we can do is all a good thing.
But there's something about that need to convert people.
There's something about that patronizing attitude they have.
There's something about this...
Overwhelming desire to incorporate other people into their group that completely smacks of religion.
greg fitzsimmons
Well, you do that Bikram yoga, right?
Yeah, because I did a couple classes and then I found out it was a cult.
They started trying to indoctrinate me into these long-term contracts.
I was like, can I just come and pay you 25 bucks and take the fucking class?
Do I have to agree with you spiritually also?
joe rogan
Well, they say crazy shit, too.
Like, this supports your inverse colon, and...
Okay, can I see some documentation?
Can I see some medical studies?
Like, what the fuck are you talking about?
Like, a friend of mine teaches yoga, and I actually had a conversation with her about it.
I'm like, you know...
greg fitzsimmons
Teaches Bikram or regular?
joe rogan
Yeah.
And I was like, maybe some teachers should probably stop saying these things about medical stuff.
Because they teach you that in Bikram Yoga.
They teach you to say that.
But Bikram himself is a fucking crook.
He's a crazy con man and a cult leader.
And he's just got sued for millions of dollars for sexual harassment and rape.
I mean, he's like...
I mean, allegedly a piece of shit.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
And he's the leader of this whole thing.
Somebody explained to me, an instructor, explained to me why he teaches Bikram yoga.
And he's like, look, the method is very good.
The method of doing it in the hot room, 104 degrees, the poses themselves in that order, the 90 minutes of them are excellent.
He goes, I 100% believe in the method of it.
But the method wasn't even created by Bikram.
greg fitzsimmons
That's right.
joe rogan
It was created by another guy in the 30s.
unidentified
Yep.
joe rogan
And Bikram copyrighted it, but he recently lost a court case.
See, what happens is people get into yoga, they say, I want to be spiritual, I want to be healthy, and they start taking yoga.
Then they find out about this Bikram guy and they go, what the fuck, what the fuck is going on, man?
He recently got busted, right?
They were trying to assess his assets because they were suing the shit out of him, all these people that he tried to fuck or whatever the hell he did.
Allegedly, by the way.
greg fitzsimmons
Allegedly.
joe rogan
I don't want to get sued, but they found he had a warehouse filled with, like, Rolls Royces and Bentleys and shit, and you know what his explanation was?
He was going to start an automotive engineering school for children, and that's why he got these cars.
That's his fucking explanation!
greg fitzsimmons
Well, you gotta understand, kids, they want to work on large motors.
joe rogan
Only Bentleys.
greg fitzsimmons
And Bentleys.
joe rogan
They're into bling-bling cars.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh my god, that's hilarious.
joe rogan
What a fucking dipshit.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, well, it's amazing because...
You know, yoga is, it can be spiritual, but it can also be like, I used to go to this place called Yaz in Venice Beach, and it was yoga and spinning together.
So you'd get on a spin bike for, it was perfect, one hour, 30 minutes on a spin bike, and then 30 minutes of like power yoga.
And you walked out with like a great cardio workout, stretched out, and they didn't utter a word about anything spiritual, because it was sort of like the antidote to like Bikram, where they're trying to Right.
But I miss that little vinyasa at the end.
I like a little bit of like a meditation that's led in a very simple way, because it's like you're already in that almost sub-REM state, and then physically it's just so much easier to go into that mental, like you've really earned that meditation.
joe rogan
Well, it's 90 minutes too.
90 minutes is fucking hard to do.
It's hard to do a 90 minute class at 104 degrees where you're stretching out.
But what I find, one of the big benefits of it, not just physical, because there's some massive physical benefits.
First of all, my back feels amazing since I've been doing it.
I've been doing it real steady every week since about August.
Somewhere around then, where it was when I started.
greg fitzsimmons
Do you do it once a week?
joe rogan
Sometimes twice a week, but mostly once a week.
But I'm going to try to do three times a week.
What I'm going to try to do now, because I've dedicated myself to this new diet, and I talked about it a lot.
And one of the things I found out is if you talk about something like on a podcast, and you say, hey, for the next 60 days, I'm not going to have any added sugar, no grains, no this, no that.
You just do it, because you've already said it.
And then other people hear it, you know, the people that listen to the podcast, they go, oh, I'll fucking try that too.
And then I hear about all the benefits these people are having from the diet, and then I'm like, all right, well, I'm going to just...
Because if it was just me, if I said, oh, I'll give this a shot, and then I pass by someplace with a chocolate croissant, I'm like, fuck yeah, give me that.
But I can't, so I'm not doing it.
greg fitzsimmons
And then these other people follow, and soon you're going to have a fucking fleet of Rolls Royces.
joe rogan
My cult's free.
It's no entry fee.
You can leave whatever you want.
greg fitzsimmons
YouTube cult.
joe rogan
But my idea is that I'm going to commit to doing it three days a week.
Because three days a week is fucking hard for me.
It's very difficult.
So I'm going to do 60 days of three days a week.
I'm going to see how that feels.
greg fitzsimmons
But the tough thing is, I found when I did it, I couldn't do shit.
I had like two spots that night, and I was still not 100%.
I was a little lightheaded still.
joe rogan
Well, you probably need to rehydrate.
You probably needed more water.
greg fitzsimmons
And also electrolytes.
Somebody told me you've got to get a lot of...
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, you sweat a lot, man.
Yeah.
104 degrees.
You're pouring sweat.
greg fitzsimmons
Right, pouring.
joe rogan
By the end of it, I mean, I'm fucking drenched.
And I have this huge, like, thermos that I fill with ice and water before the class.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And by the end of it, it's empty.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
The idea that I could drink that much water in 90 minutes is crazy.
And the idea that I just go right through it.
It's just so hot in there.
But the benefits for your body are definitely legit.
My flexibility is fantastic right now.
My back feels amazing.
And the big one, though, is how shit just rolls off your back.
Things don't bother me the way they would bother me if I wasn't doing it.
greg fitzsimmons
No shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's amazing.
The example I use is this guy rear-ended my car, my Porsche.
greg fitzsimmons
While you were at a stoplight?
joe rogan
No, even worse.
There was a construction on the highway, and this guy wasn't fucking paying attention.
He was looking at his phone, and he was from Mexico.
No driver's license.
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
Illegal.
Slams on his brakes, plows into me with his Honda Civic, just wrecks his car.
His car was totaled.
My car was actually not that bad.
They just had to replace, because Porsche's actually designed their cars incredibly well.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And they have this collision bar behind the engine that accordions when it gets hit, and it completely protected the engine.
unidentified
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, so it was only like a two-week fix.
I sent it back to Shark Works in Northern California.
They fixed it.
I had it back in two weeks.
greg fitzsimmons
Fine.
joe rogan
Good as no.
greg fitzsimmons
But no compensation from the other driver?
joe rogan
Allegedly, yeah.
Some insurance, so we'll see.
But most likely, no.
But the thing is, man...
I saw the guy.
I looked at him.
He wasn't paying attention.
I looked at him look up.
I saw the look in his eyes.
You realize right before he hits, this fucking guy.
He slammed on his brakes right before he hit.
Luckily, he wasn't going too fast because traffic was going kind of slow.
But I got out and I wasn't upset.
It was weird.
I fucking love that car.
I mean, it is a rare car.
There's very few of them.
You can't get them anymore.
If you buy them, they're extremely hard to find.
And mine is really rare because it's It was done by Shark Works, which is a company in Northern California.
Yeah, yeah, you told me about that.
But I got out, and the first thing I did, I go up to him, I go, you okay?
And he's like, yeah, yeah, I'm okay.
I'm like, okay, well, we're both okay.
And I swear to God, man, I wasn't even upset.
I was not upset.
I was, like, level.
And it was because I did yoga that day, and I'd done it another day that week.
And I was just, I was on my way to the store.
That was what I was worried about, was I was going to miss my spot.
Because, you know, I'm...
I usually give myself like, I like to get there like 20 minutes before, and I'm like, this might fuck me up, you know?
But I really attribute that to just a, there's a balance that you get from doing something like that where you're exerting yourself extremely hard for 90 minutes.
It's so fucking difficult.
And most people don't know.
You pass by yoga studios, you look in there and you go, ah, a bunch of housewives playing with their feet.
They're not doing anything.
But it's a struggle.
It's a mental struggle.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, you break through some walls for sure.
And the thing is, I remember I used to take it up in San Francisco.
This is 10, 15 years ago.
I used to take it up in San Francisco.
I don't know if it was Bikram back then or it was just hot yoga.
But when I tried to leave the studio because I felt dizzy and nauseous, everyone in the class was like, no, you can do it.
They really encourage you to break through.
It's like a team effort to get through it.
joe rogan
There's a lot of support in that because if you're by yourself and you've experienced that same feeling, you're usually like, oh, stop right here.
Relax.
But you can't stop because everything's timed.
The teacher's timing it, and they're going to push you through it.
And everyone else in the class is doing it.
It's a 60-year-old lady right next to me.
She's doing it.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
How come I can't do it?
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
You know, we all experience the same thing.
And you realize that's the thing about yoga.
It's like maybe one person might be able to lift a heavier weight than this person, or they might be able to run faster.
But the effort that a 60-year-old person puts in versus a 20-year-old person is the same You're putting in 100% effort to move your body.
So you might be able to move more or have more flexibility than another person, but the amount of effort you put in is the same.
So class is never easy because it's always 100% effort.
So it's always fucking difficult.
greg fitzsimmons
Well, and my friend explained to me, I didn't realize this, but that each pose is working a different organ that you're cleaning out, you're compressing.
joe rogan
You're not compressing any fucking organs.
What are you, a machine?
What are you, a vice?
Compressing your organs.
greg fitzsimmons
What are you, toothpaste?
joe rogan
You're stretching and holding it.
That's what you're doing.
You're pushing your body.
I mean, I'm sure there's some sort of benefits to your organs, you know, because there's benefits to all your muscles, your circulation is pumping, you know, you're sweating like crazy.
There's probably a lot of benefits.
greg fitzsimmons
How would you describe the smell of a Bikram yoga room?
joe rogan
Like a foot, underarm, butthole.
greg fitzsimmons
Little vagina.
joe rogan
And then a lot of, like, anti-fungal sprays and...
A lot of deodorants and whatever the fuck they're using to clean it, whatever detergents.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, you need to let go into the smell a little bit, too.
At first, that's a wall you get through as well.
joe rogan
Well, the place I go to, they do a great job of cleaning the carpets and vacuuming it.
greg fitzsimmons
The carpets, really?
joe rogan
Yeah, exactly.
It shouldn't be a carpet, right?
greg fitzsimmons
Damn!
joe rogan
It should be a hardwood floor.
Yeah.
But it's too slippery.
Hardwood floors get super slippery.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And people fall and fucking rip their knees apart.
unidentified
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
I took a shower afterwards, and usually, you know, I'm always self-conscious in a shower.
Nudity was just not part of my upbringing at all.
I think, again, Irish Catholic shame.
But my dick was hanging low with that heat.
It looked good.
My balls were fucking just swinging.
joe rogan
Isn't it funny that your dick, especially your balls, literally stretches to get the fuck away from your body?
unidentified
Like, this guy's overheating, let's get out of here!
joe rogan
Hang low!
unidentified
Hang low!
There's an asshole back there, get away from the asshole!
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, and then when it's cold, it hides.
It goes, we gotta fucking, let us in, let us in!
joe rogan
There's this one weirdo who goes to my yoga class, and he always looks at me like I stole something from him.
I'm like, I don't even know you, man.
unidentified
I didn't do anything.
joe rogan
I always say hi to him, and he's always reluctant to say hi back.
When he comes out of the shower, he cups his balls in his dick like no one can see.
greg fitzsimmons
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, like there's something wrong with this guy.
greg fitzsimmons
Well, if you can cup both balls in your dick with one hand, I can see why he's hiding.
joe rogan
Well, he doesn't want you to see it.
But it's also like, he looks at other men like they did something to him.
Like, I've seen him, and I've watched him interact with other men, too.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's like, what happened to you, dude?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
This guy just said hi to you and you looked at him like you just stole your fucking girlfriend or something.
It's weird.
greg fitzsimmons
It's like sometimes I was just on the road in Addison and you know these guys from Texas, they come up and they're like, they got on the crisp polo shirt and the fucking slacks with pleats and tassels on there.
Yeah, and they're real crew cut and they're fucking built.
And this guy comes up and he right in my face like grabs my hand.
He's like, how you doing?
And I go, it's okay.
I don't need to buy any insurance today.
Like, I get you're an alpha.
You're an alpha.
You're not gay.
I got it.
Take it easy on my hand.
joe rogan
Nice tassels on your shoes there, fella.
Those slip-on loafers you got there.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, right, right.
unidentified
Why are people still buying those double tassels?
greg fitzsimmons
Like little bells.
joe rogan
Those little fucking weird things.
What are those little octopuses that are hanging from the body?
greg fitzsimmons
They don't look good.
unidentified
They look stupid.
greg fitzsimmons
They look so stupid.
joe rogan
But they're so common.
greg fitzsimmons
I know.
joe rogan
It's like there's a style that got created and just they stuck with it.
greg fitzsimmons
Right, right.
joe rogan
It's like ties.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, ties.
The whole idea of dangling a piece of material from in front of you.
Yeah, there they are.
Oh my god.
Look how stupid that looks.
And why is it always with no socks?
joe rogan
I don't know, man.
greg fitzsimmons
And it's always guys with little feet.
joe rogan
Your feet must stink in those things.
greg fitzsimmons
They gotta stink.
There's no air getting into those things.
joe rogan
Yeah, and it's leather.
Your sweaty-ass feet with no socks.
greg fitzsimmons
It's almost like what you'd see a bagpiper wear.
joe rogan
It's a weird fetish.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
Yeah, okay.
unidentified
Jesus.
joe rogan
Okay, dork.
Right now, where are you?
He's texting his girlfriend.
She's getting stuffed by some other dude.
Just gorilla fucked by some guy she met at the gym while he's out there getting a manicure.
Well, I was going to go to the gym, but my nails are horrendous.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
So, I'll call you later.
We're still going to do the tapas bar.
And she's just getting stuffed.
greg fitzsimmons
What are you going to wear, by the way?
I want to make sure it matches what I'm wearing.
joe rogan
Don't wear blue, because I'm wearing blue.
greg fitzsimmons
I'm dressed as Ellen DeGeneres.
You'll be able to see me.
joe rogan
I'm dressed as Ellen's wife.
greg fitzsimmons
I'm dressed as poor-skinned Rossi.
Yeah, that's beautiful.
That's great.
And he only fucks her up the ass.
That's when you get to wonder.
joe rogan
You think so?
greg fitzsimmons
Is there a guy like that?
Really?
She's only taking up the ass and he's always got his hand in front of her pussy and he's jacking it up and down.
She's like, what are you doing?
joe rogan
You're really specific.
greg fitzsimmons
Is there an air cock that you're jerking off?
joe rogan
I put my tassels on.
I need my tassels.
Wear my loafers.
I want to feel like we're fucking at the office.
unidentified
You don't even work in an office.
joe rogan
I want to.
greg fitzsimmons
Don't fuck up the fantasy.
You're black.
joe rogan
I want to be normal.
I want to be the executive.
Today I'm the executive.
greg fitzsimmons
I'm sexually harassing you.
I want you to sue me while I'm fucking you.
joe rogan
We're fucking because I got a promotion.
You don't even have a job!
I got a promotion today.
Stop ruining it.
greg fitzsimmons
Promotion?
You get a trust fund.
joe rogan
That world, man.
That world that most people who are listening to this are stuck in.
That world of trying to get a promotion.
Trying to move your way up the company ladder.
Going to company meetings.
Hundreds of people all getting together.
Wives and husbands and fucking shaking hands and wearing your loafers.
greg fitzsimmons
Wearing your loafers and trying to figure out what church you're supposed to go to to get ahead.
joe rogan
Oh, God.
greg fitzsimmons
What country club to join once you get to that next level.
joe rogan
Country club.
I looked at houses in, do you know where Lake Sherwood is?
greg fitzsimmons
No.
joe rogan
Lake Sherwood is an area like way out near like Thousand Oaks.
Really nice, really nice place.
And it's a giant country club, like a gated community country club.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
And we looked at a house there.
And when we're there, it's like, what is this place?
What's going on in this place?
It's all like people who go there and they play golf.
To sign up and be a part of the golf thing, the golf costs some insane amount of money a year.
Like, really stupid money.
Like, pull that up.
Find out how much Lakeshore Country Club.
But I think it's like a quarter million dollars a year.
Like, something stupid.
I might be wrong.
Maybe it's 50 grand or something like that.
But it's something where you're like, what?
Where they're just trying to keep out anybody who's not stupid wealthy.
Does it say?
Does it say how much, Jamie?
greg fitzsimmons
$185,000.
I thought those clubs would keep that on the down low.
It's not on their website.
joe rogan
It's an article I found.
$185,000 if you want to play golf there.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, because think about it.
If you're a billionaire, $185,000 doesn't mean shit to you except that people without it can't get in.
It's not affecting your bottom line.
It's just an insurance policy.
And then you see these clubs.
There's a club in Santa Monica.
I forget which one it is.
You drive past it, there's never anybody on the course.
This is miles.
Think about the real estate in Santa Monica.
If you had a 3,000 square foot store, you'd be paying, you know, $10,000 a month for it.
Now take that store, step it into a golf course that's square miles in that same neighborhood.
What is that possibly worth?
And there's nobody playing on the course.
joe rogan
It's insane.
It's insane.
And the amount of water.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
The sheer amount of water that gets used by golf courses.
They had a chart that showed all the water that's being used by residential people and houses and regular folks versus agriculture.
And agriculture is just staggering how much water they use.
But the really nutty one was millions and millions of gallons.
How many millions are being used by golf courses just in Southern California?
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
I mean, it's like a significant percentage of our water usage is golf.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
Yeah, and they write off the land.
They don't have to pay taxes on it as much as normally because they call it—you ready for this?
It's like a—it's considered wildlife.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
What?
greg fitzsimmons
Like, every city is supposed to have zoned out a certain amount of undeveloped land for the environment.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
greg fitzsimmons
And golf courses were able to loophole their way into that so they don't pay as much tax.
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's a wildlife preserve.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
It's for squirrels.
greg fitzsimmons
Squirrels with fucking bumps on their head from getting hit by golf balls.
joe rogan
How many squirrels have been murked by a fucking blind drive?
Can you imagine if you're a squirrel just hitting the end?
A fucking golf ball bigger than your head comes 75 miles an hour.
Beans you in the head.
greg fitzsimmons
Darwin didn't teach me about this.
How do I react to this in nature?
joe rogan
My friend Ryan got hit in the head by a line drive and he said he was fucked up for like six months.
greg fitzsimmons
Really?
joe rogan
Six months he had massive headaches.
greg fitzsimmons
It's a fucking hardball, man.
joe rogan
I know too many people that have had, like, significant head problems from getting hit in the head.
Like, people always wonder, like, why I'm always droning on and on about head trauma and MMA and football and the dangers of it.
It's because I know a lot of people that, one knockout, and they're fucked for, like, a year.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Constant headaches.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
Constant ringing in their ear.
greg fitzsimmons
My son just got his first concussion.
He had to play soccer, and he got...
I think he got kneed in the head in a collision.
And he was out of school for a week.
He couldn't, like, he'd go to school and he'd have his head down on his desk in first period and have to come home again.
unidentified
Wow.
greg fitzsimmons
It was bad.
And I was like, fuck, man.
You don't know when that happens.
A concussion can last a day.
It can last, like you said, it could go on and on with headaches and...
joe rogan
It's really important to recognize that because there's a lot of restrictions they put on athletes after they've been KO'd for fighters.
They'll say no contact for 30 days or 60 days.
But that's not adequate because you really don't know.
Each individual case of someone getting knocked out is totally different.
One person can get knocked out and they're fine a couple days later.
And then...
Another person would get knocked out, and they're fucked up for a long time.
Like, I got TKO'd once in a kickboxing fight, and it was the third fight of the night.
I had fought twice that night before that fight, and part of it was exhaustion.
I did get clipped with a good left hook, though.
My legs gave out, and I went down.
I never went out, but sometimes a punch to the jaw is weird, too, because a punch to the jaw...
What happens is, it's not even necessarily your brain.
It's like the nerve behind...
The way it's been explained to me is your jaw, when it moves, can slam into the nerve.
And when it slams into the nerve, it short-circuits your system.
And your legs give out.
It's weird.
It's not good for you, but my point is...
I was fine after that.
Like, I was fine that night.
I was fine the next day.
I mean, it wouldn't be a good idea if I had another fight after that, but it wasn't like I had ringing in my ears and headaches and I was in, like, serious pain.
But I had other times, just from sparring sessions, where I didn't get knocked out, where my head was pounding for days and days.
greg fitzsimmons
Just from taking a punch.
joe rogan
Just from taking a punch or a kick.
And you don't know.
You don't know which day you're going to be fine or which day you're going to be fucked.
It all depends entirely on how you get hit, how your body responds to it, what the actual damage is.
You can't tell unless you get in the brain.
They really can't tell.
They don't know.
greg fitzsimmons
You know who's amazing is James Bond will get knocked out.
Like, out.
You know, like a bad guy will elbow him and he'll fucking lose consciousness.
He'll get up and drive a car, dance.
joe rogan
Well, he gets pistol whipped, too.
greg fitzsimmons
He gets pistol whipped?
joe rogan
They get pistol whipped in the back of the head.
They go down.
They wake up.
Oh, you hit me.
unidentified
They just get up.
joe rogan
They get nothing.
unidentified
Keep on going.
joe rogan
That's that pistol whipped to the back of the head move.
It's like always effective.
greg fitzsimmons
I know.
You never kill the guy.
And also, when you're fighting a bunch of people, you can pistol whip.
You've got to shoot some.
You can pistol whip the others, and they'll go down, and you just know they're going to stay down until you're clear, until you're out of there.
joe rogan
When was the first time you saw someone actually get knocked out?
How many people have you seen get knocked out in real life?
greg fitzsimmons
Bar fights, I've seen tons.
joe rogan
Like KOs?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, I've seen KOs in Boston outside of bars.
joe rogan
Street KOs are the scariest because they bounce their head off the concrete.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, right.
joe rogan
There's something sickening, just absolutely sickening about the sound of an unconscious person's head bouncing off the concrete.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, I saw this kid when I was about 17. I was at a bar in Tarrytown where I grew up, and this kid...
He was on stairs, this bar that had an upstairs, and this one kid was coming up, other one was coming down, and they had a beef, and the kid above just fucking clocked this guy, and he fell backwards, hit his head, he was in a coma for six months.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
greg fitzsimmons
Still not 100%.
This, you know, I mean, ten years later, I haven't seen him since, but ten years later, the guy was off.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
What happened to the guy who did it to him?
greg fitzsimmons
Went to jail.
joe rogan
For how long?
greg fitzsimmons
Just like three months.
unidentified
Not enough?
greg fitzsimmons
Nope.
joe rogan
Fuck.
greg fitzsimmons
No, bar fights are no joke, man.
joe rogan
Kevin James used to work as a bouncer in a bar in Long Island.
The guy he was working with punched a guy, the guy fell back, hit his head off the curb, and died.
greg fitzsimmons
Ooh.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Just fucking bar fight, bouncer, drunk guy, punches the guy.
unidentified
Jail.
greg fitzsimmons
Gotta go to jail?
joe rogan
Yeah, jail.
Manslaughter.
greg fitzsimmons
It's no joke.
People think it's a joke.
You know, it's like you got all these tough guys that go out to the bars and then, you know, hey, we have a fist fight and, you know, it can end very fucking tragically very fast.
joe rogan
Some comic at the Comedy Store got knocked out.
I want to say about a year ago, maybe even less.
Yeah.
He was on a motorcycle and he pulled up to the Comedy Store and he parked his motorcycle and I guess he kept it running and some guy yelled at him, hey man, shut that fucking thing off.
They were having a conversation over by the patio.
Yeah.
And he laughed at him, like, because the guy was, like, saying it, like, really aggressive.
And he took his helmet off.
The guy walked over to him and just fucking cold-cocked him and knocked him out.
greg fitzsimmons
Wow.
joe rogan
Just for having a motorcycle running.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
I guess it was one of those loud, like, Harley things that people love.
They love those loud...
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
But they say that those are loud that's good because it saves you from people colliding into you.
greg fitzsimmons
Fuck that.
If I was a cop, you know, they have like a noise meter.
That is my biggest pet peeve.
You're having a conversation on the street and you have to stop for 20 seconds because some fucking asshole has got a muffler that he jacked up to make that much noise.
Like he's, oh, Woody, powerful.
unidentified
Oh, I hate that shit.
greg fitzsimmons
And you feel it in your chest when they go by?
joe rogan
They're really loud, some of those bikes.
unidentified
Really, really loud.
greg fitzsimmons
Second only to the truck that has like that massive horn that makes your body go paralyzed for like a second.
joe rogan
Like a dog whistle.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Your body just goes, what?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, those loud motorcycles, though, like, I guess too loud is, you know, a problem.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
But, like, a Harley, like, when you buy one from a store without fucking with it.
greg fitzsimmons
That's fine.
joe rogan
But that level of loudness apparently prevents a lot of accidents.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because people hear it and then they avoid you.
Because, like, part of the problem with motorcycle accidents, like, Say if you have one of those Japanese speed bikes, they don't make that much noise.
So you gotta vroom vroom when you're next to people so they know you're there.
Because people are fucking texting and drifting.
How often do you look over and you see people texting?
greg fitzsimmons
Oh yeah.
And I drive a Prius.
joe rogan
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
Because I'm dead inside.
But people really can't hear you.
I pulled up today to Valley Park and the guy's fucking sitting there doing a crossword puzzle and I'm looking at him.
And I finally went, excuse me.
He's like, oh, sorry, I didn't hear you.
And it's like, you feel insignificant already in a Prius?
You feel castrated and a zero?
joe rogan
Yeah, they don't make any noise.
greg fitzsimmons
Like, here's me flooring it.
Then your car.
joe rogan
You know you want to get a nice car.
greg fitzsimmons
I did.
joe rogan
You've been thinking about this for years.
What holds you back?
greg fitzsimmons
I need a little bump of money.
To justify it, because the college fund isn't there yet, I got to get a nice little hit.
Go out and buy that Mustang.
joe rogan
Did you see the new ones?
Have you seen the new ones?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
My friend Matt Farah just sent me a text.
Apparently, the new Shelby, they have a new Shelby GT350, and he just sent me a text about it.
And he said he's emailing everyone he knows at Ford just begging them to sell them one.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, they're hard to get.
joe rogan
They're hard to get.
Because it's a Shelby GT350. So they have a PR guy that's going to hook him up.
But he said, like, literally, it is the best car he's ever driven.
greg fitzsimmons
How much is it?
joe rogan
I don't know.
Not that expensive though.
Less than a lot of cars.
But apparently they're really hard to get.
The Shelby.
But you don't need a Shelby.
Like a GT. A Mustang GT. One of the cool things about the Horsepower Wars.
What's all that white stuff on it?
Is that just like shininess?
unidentified
What is that?
joe rogan
Is that a fucked up part of what the image is?
Like an artifact?
unidentified
I don't know.
It's not on my screen.
joe rogan
It's not on my screen.
I don't know what that is.
See if you can find another one.
It's not on your screen?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Oh, it's only when it transfers over to the television?
How weird.
How fucking strange is that?
There's other images I'm sure you can find.
But anyway, the car is a monster.
But a regular Mustang GT. The thing is, a regular one.
Like, find out how much a regular Mustang GT is.
I think it's only about...
I want to say it's about $35,000.
greg fitzsimmons
The GT, I think, is more than that.
I think a regular Mustang, just like a baseline Mustang, you can get for about $32,000.
joe rogan
Really?
Not GT350, Jamie.
Just GT. Ford Mustang GT. Yeah.
How much do those bitches cost?
I think, like, well, the thing what I was saying is, like, for the amount of, look at that, 32 grand for a Mustang GT. That's fucking crazy.
The amount of power that those things have and how good they run and how good they drive, it's a bargain.
It's an amazing bargain because they have more than 400 horsepower.
Those things are fast as fuck.
Like, what is it, 430?
What does it say there, Jamie?
Don't scroll real quick.
What does it say?
435. 435 fucking horsepower!
400 foot pound of torque for 32 grand.
I mean, that's incredible.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And the interior looks good.
They have Recaro cloth front seats.
greg fitzsimmons
Think about what it would have cost to make a car with those dimensions 10 years ago.
They couldn't do it.
joe rogan
Well, how about this?
You would blow the doors off a Ferrari of 20 years ago.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
With this car, with this $32,000 car.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
And it sounds great.
It's a wonderful American V8. Yeah.
They look great.
I mean, I would drive that, 100%.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
And it'd be fun.
Those are fun to fucking drive, man.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's a great car.
And for $32,000...
Whenever we talk about these things, people will get mad.
They'll go, 32 grand is a lot of money.
Relax.
greg fitzsimmons
I gotta get some ads on my...
My ads have slowed down on my podcast.
I gotta hook some up.
joe rogan
Have they slowed down because you haven't pursued them?
greg fitzsimmons
No, I think my...
People.
joe rogan
Your ad people are not good?
They're slacking?
greg fitzsimmons
Slacking.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's hard.
It's hard to do all that shit yourself.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
You rely on other people to get it for you.
They better do their job.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
I'll connect you to my guys after we're done here.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
They're good.
greg fitzsimmons
Might be time.
joe rogan
Yeah.
The thing is, you got to find something you actually like.
My favorite ads are like Dollar Shave Club or something like that.
unidentified
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
Fuck yeah.
Dollar Shave Club.
unidentified
It's legit.
greg fitzsimmons
It's great.
joe rogan
It's 100% legit.
greg fitzsimmons
I like advertising that.
Squarespace.
Squarespace is good.
joe rogan
Blue Apron.
greg fitzsimmons
Blue Apron's great.
joe rogan
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
Fucking less than 10 bucks a meal.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Finding stuff that you...
That's the whole key to it.
Like, I've had a lot of people try to advertise, and I'm like, ooh.
I can't get behind that.
One of them was like an Uber for babysitters.
I was like, get the fuck out of here.
greg fitzsimmons
Really?
joe rogan
Are you crazy?
You're going to have some person come over and watch the most important person in your life other than your spouse?
greg fitzsimmons
Just randomly?
joe rogan
Just randomly.
greg fitzsimmons
Because it's cheaper.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, they're screened.
Like, what the fuck?
greg fitzsimmons
Get the fuck out of here.
Yeah, there's certain things you can't go by price.
joe rogan
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
Oof.
joe rogan
Oof.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, there's some that...
Do you do the betting sites like DraftKings and all that?
joe rogan
Yeah, I did.
I had them for a long time.
I haven't done one in a while.
I like the idea behind it, but some people say that there's issues with how you get paid.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, yeah?
joe rogan
Or not how you get paid, rather, but how many people get paid.
Weren't you saying something like that, Jamie?
What were you saying?
jamie vernon
When I found out, most of it was like 1% of the players were making something like 90-95% of the money.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Again, these fucking one percenters.
greg fitzsimmons
The one percenters.
joe rogan
Goddamn one percenters.
greg fitzsimmons
It's all white guys.
joe rogan
Yeah, white guys that know a lot about sports.
But I feel like if you know, you understand a lot about, like, MMA, and that's one of the things where I like it.
I'm like, man, I feel like you can make money.
Like, if you're one of those crazy people that goes on mixedmartialarts.com and you're there every day and you know all the fucking stats, you know.
Well, excuse me.
You watch all the training videos, you know, who's training with who, and this guy's got this new trainer and it's going to help him.
I just feel like those guys...
greg fitzsimmons
Did you have any inkling about that last fight, the two big upsets last week?
joe rogan
Yeah, both of them.
greg fitzsimmons
You had a feeling on both of them that they'd be upsets?
joe rogan
No, I had a feeling that Holly could get beat by Misha, but I thought Connor was going to get beat by Nate.
I had a feeling.
I said it to my friends, too, that were sitting right behind me.
I took my headset off as they were doing the introductions.
I said, this is going to be an upset.
greg fitzsimmons
No shit.
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, we just saw an upset when Misha choked Holly out.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
And I knew that Misha was going to fight real smart.
And the way she fought was super cautious on the outside.
And she made Holly come to her, which is not how Holly likes to fight.
When Ronda fought Holly, it was the perfect fight for Holly.
Because Ronda charged after her like a maniac.
And Holly just sidestepped her, blasted her, moved back, blasted her.
She just countered her.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And for a person who's a counter striker, that style that Ronda employed is the perfect style.
Even more perfect for someone like Holly because Ronda doesn't kick.
So Ronda has a short range attack, short range attack.
And on top of that, her grappling is a limited attack because she only likes to tie up with the upper body.
Rhonda doesn't take anybody down by shooting on their legs.
So I knew that Holly fighting Misha, she would have a totally different type of opponent.
First of all, Misha's not going to charge at her.
She's not stupid.
She's not reckless.
She's not a fucking crazed maniac like Rhonda was in that fight.
Rhonda was just a maniac.
She just wanted to smash her face in.
You can't fight like that.
And Misha fought like super intelligent, very cautious, stayed on the outside.
And then once in the second round, Misha got her down and just dominated her on the ground.
I was like, okay, my suspicions were correct.
Misha can do this.
But then Holly pulled it off for the next couple rounds.
And it looked like Holly was going to probably win a decision if she won the last round.
And then Misha took her down and choked her unconscious.
And that was just madness.
greg fitzsimmons
That must have been the payout on picking the underdogs on those two.
It must have been huge.
joe rogan
Giant.
I think it was 6-1 with Connor and Nate.
And I think Misha and Holly was something like 3-1.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
I might have made that up.
jamie vernon
I think if you picked them both and bet $100, you won something like $1,500 together.
joe rogan
Jamie bet on Nate.
unidentified
Yeah, won $500.
Did you?
greg fitzsimmons
There you go.
joe rogan
Yeah, Jamie was there.
I got a picture of Jamie, Tony, and my friend Frosty.
The three of them holding up their betting slips right after the fight.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, yeah?
Yeah, they're all sitting right behind.
Matt Frost, Frosty?
joe rogan
No, Frosty's a sound guy for the UFC. He's a sound engineer.
greg fitzsimmons
I can see Jamie taking that Joe Rogan experience money and fucking doubling it down.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's Tony Hinchcliffe, too.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, that's great.
Oh, I saw a great picture of, who was it in the background, kissing on the kiss cam?
joe rogan
Oh, Ari and Duncan.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, Ari and Duncan.
Yeah, yeah.
It was fucking great!
joe rogan
Now, before they were kissing, they were throwing up Illuminati signs.
They were doing like that.
And they waited until the fucking camera was right on them and they turned and kissed.
Tongue and everything, by the way.
Watch this.
Watch this.
Here it is.
The camera's on them.
unidentified
And you see them after it's grabbed their face like, what the fuck did we do?
joe rogan
Oh, that's so fun.
greg fitzsimmons
That's like Borat doing that cage match down south.
No, Bruno, not Borat.
joe rogan
Those guys are animals.
Look at that.
They're throwing up the Illuminati sign.
unidentified
See that?
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, that's so great.
joe rogan
They're probably on mushrooms, too.
They get on mushrooms all the time when they do the UFC. Because you could sit there for a long time.
Look at that.
They're kissed.
greg fitzsimmons
Because the thing about that is you do it in the moment and it's funny and then all you're thinking about is the two dudes that are sitting behind you the whole time for the rest of the match going, are they going to do that again?
What the fuck?
joe rogan
Well, they were sitting in the seats that are right behind me so they weren't even audience seats.
Those are production seats.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
They're sitting in like the best seats you can get.
unidentified
Oh, no shit.
joe rogan
They're three feet from the cage.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
You know, they're right there.
They're like, literally, they could touch me.
They could touch my back.
greg fitzsimmons
I was supposed to be there.
We did a gig together in Vegas not too long ago with a fight the next day and I had to fucking bail.
joe rogan
God damn it.
greg fitzsimmons
I know.
I know.
unidentified
God damn it.
greg fitzsimmons
No Mustang, no ringside seats.
I'm missing it all.
Oh, can we plug, by the way, tomorrow night?
joe rogan
Tomorrow night.
Yeah, we're at the improv.
greg fitzsimmons
Tomorrow night.
March 17th, St. Patrick's Day.
Joe Rogan joining once again.
I believe you did it last year, too.
joe rogan
I've done it a couple times, right?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, I've done it a few times.
unidentified
It's fun.
greg fitzsimmons
St. Patrick's Day show.
We've got all Irish comics coming down.
Joe McRogan.
Karen Kilgariff.
Mike Gibbons.
We've got a special guest I can't even announce.
Huge name guest.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Is he Irish?
greg fitzsimmons
Greek.
unidentified
Greek.
joe rogan
Okay, we'll talk later.
greg fitzsimmons
Alright.
joe rogan
Okay.
greg fitzsimmons
It'll be good.
Some tickets left.
Go to the improv.
joe rogan
Always a good time.
Always a good time.
I have a little Irish.
I'm one quarter Irish.
greg fitzsimmons
That's it?
joe rogan
So it's real.
greg fitzsimmons
Alright, you're still on the show.
Yeah, then we're going to have a party afterwards.
A little corned beef next door and some Irish music and decorations.
joe rogan
I'm so glad they turned the improv around and have that bar in the front again.
greg fitzsimmons
They had it all wrong for about a year there.
joe rogan
Well, they turned it into some lounge in Encino.
It was white in there, and it was weird decorations.
Who designed this?
Now it's dark again, and it looks cool.
greg fitzsimmons
There was nothing wrong with it in the first place.
It was perfect before.
joe rogan
Well, I don't know why they did it.
I don't know what they were trying to do.
greg fitzsimmons
Some people can't just leave a good thing alone.
joe rogan
I think they thought they were going to have a successful restaurant in the front for some reason, and it didn't pan out, and the restaurant didn't work out, which most restaurants don't.
They say like 90% of all restaurants fail in the first year.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
But they got it back.
It's great again.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's excellent.
greg fitzsimmons
It's back to its roots.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a great club.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
And I like how they have a second room now.
They have that lab.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, the lab's good.
Have you done it?
joe rogan
Fucking great.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, it's really good.
unidentified
I did it.
joe rogan
That's where I did Ari when Ari first started his This Is Not Happening, the show that was on last night on Comedy Central, which is on every week now.
Before Ari had that television show, he started that off in the improv lab, I think, I want to say like six years ago.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
And his idea was, it was a very smart idea, that you would develop stories better and really tighten them up if there wasn't pressure to do traditional stand-up.
So he would do storytelling shows, and he would do them on a theme, like guys who have been arrested or people that have done too many drugs or whatever.
And he would do a theme on these things, and you'd go up there and just explore the story.
And if you could do that, you would find the funny stuff in there, because it's a different format.
You're kind of doing stand-up.
But then some guys would fuck it up.
They would go up there and they would just set up punchlines and do just jokes.
But then Diaz does it right.
Diaz would tell you these crazy stories.
And they would be funny.
He would find the funny in them.
And a lot of those became bits.
Because he got comfortable.
And Ari did too, as well.
Got comfortable saying them in the storytelling format and then sort of edited it down and honed it and sharpened it and folded the steel.
And then it made it become a really solid bit.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
That's where it starts.
You know, I got a new bit about seeing a couple fucking in the hotel room across from me.
joe rogan
Did you?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
Yeah, it was fucking amazing.
I mean, I won't do the bit.
I'll tell you.
The story has now turned into a bit.
That fucking crushes.
You know how sometimes you get a new bit and it can take three months to become your closing bit because you're still working out?
This thing raced to closing bit in like five tellings of it.
unidentified
Really?
greg fitzsimmons
So I won't do the bit, but I'll tell you the story, which is basically New Year's Eve in Portland.
The hotel is like a horseshoe shape, so I'm on the 10th floor, and I look across into a room, and the curtains are open, lights are on, chick is on her back, legs up, and this dude who's ripped is fucking pounding her!
And I'm just standing there looking at him like, this is the greatest thing that's ever happened.
I still have my bag in my hand, and I'm just transfixed.
And they're really fucking.
And at one point, he goes down on one knee, eats her out, stands up, keeps fucking.
I'm like high-fiving the glass, like, go, man!
And so I had the curtain closed, because I didn't want them to see me.
Pop my head through the curtain.
So I look like a photographer from the 1930s.
And then I start thinking about what it must sound like.
And this is where it gets creepy.
Creepier.
Is I leave my room.
I walk down the hall.
And I stand outside the room and I listen.
And I hear him grunting.
And I hear her go, Oh, Kevin!
Kevin!
So I go back to my room and I call.
I call the room.
joe rogan
No!
greg fitzsimmons
And I'm just watching him, waiting, waiting.
He didn't pick up.
unidentified
But if he did, I would have been like, Kevin!
Fucking look out the window, buddy!
greg fitzsimmons
I'm jerking off!
But what's better than some free nudity?
Like, you didn't earn it.
You didn't have to take anyone out to dinner.
You didn't have to go to a strip club.
You just see some nudity in a window.
joe rogan
Well, it's way more exciting, for sure.
Accidental nudity is way more exciting.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's a voyeur instinct that all of us have, for whatever reason.
And I don't know why, you know?
That's why I like those Jennifer Lawrence leaked sex pics.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, I love it.
joe rogan
Like, you know, she sent that to her boyfriend.
Like, oh my god!
It's her, like, spreading her cheeks.
Like, Jennifer Lawrence showing her pussy and her asshole.
greg fitzsimmons
And taking a thick one to the face.
Did you see that one?
Yes.
Yes!
unidentified
Yes!
joe rogan
Thick one?
greg fitzsimmons
But I don't know, like, even looking down a woman's shirt.
joe rogan
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
My mother-in-law was doing the dishes at our house.
She's wearing a nightgown, bent over, looked down her shirt.
Not bad.
unidentified
That's so fucking gross.
joe rogan
Oh, how old was she at the time?
greg fitzsimmons
74. You know what?
They were full.
They were full.
And they weren't wrinkled.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
greg fitzsimmons
And I thought, this is what my wife's tits are going to look like in 25 years.
joe rogan
Unless she gets on that collagen.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, man.
That's going to be great for everybody.
joe rogan
It's going to be weird, man.
Going to see 80-year-old hot ladies.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
They're going to smell like 80-year-olds, though.
Once they open their mouth, they smell tombs.
greg fitzsimmons
Bats come flying out of their pussy.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Fucking flies and shit.
greg fitzsimmons
Like, did I just walk into a Bikram yoga studio?
joe rogan
It'd be nice if, like, you had an expiration date, you'd work up to that date, and everything worked awesome up until that date, and then into the great abyss.
greg fitzsimmons
I think there should be an option.
I think that you should have total coverage for your health.
You know, talk about universal health care.
Fucking blue cross to the nth degree.
Everything you need, one dollar copay, whatever.
But then when you turn 73, they just come, you're sleeping, one bullet to the back of the head.
Or you get a minimal policy, a lot of copay, big deductible, but you get it for the rest of your life as long as you live.
joe rogan
Yeah, but the shooting you in the head part, why do they have to shoot you in the head at 73?
greg fitzsimmons
Because you'll be a drain on the system after that.
joe rogan
Can't you just pay more money?
greg fitzsimmons
No, because that money has to go back into the system.
joe rogan
Yeah, but you're earning money if you're alive.
Not if you're 74. Yeah, maybe you're one of those Warren Buffet type characters still out there hustling.
greg fitzsimmons
That's true.
joe rogan
Every day I'm hustling.
You know, he lives in Omaha, Nebraska.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, same house he fucking first had his kids in.
joe rogan
How is that possible?
greg fitzsimmons
Fly's coach?
joe rogan
How's nobody robbing him?
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
He flies coach?
greg fitzsimmons
I believe so.
Or maybe that was Sam Walton that flies coach.
Sam Walton used to fly coach.
joe rogan
My only problem with that is why have all that money then?
What's he doing with it?
greg fitzsimmons
If I would think there's one thing you want to pay for that costs a little extra, it's business class.
It makes a flight from exhausting and aggravating to relaxing.
If you're in first class, you don't want to get off the fucking plane when you land.
You're sitting there, you're watching a good movie, you've got some soft leather wrapped around your dirty asshole, and you've just got a little mimosa.
You're talking to interesting, wealthy people.
joe rogan
Sometimes.
Sometimes you're getting your ear chewed off by a moron.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, that's true.
joe rogan
That can happen too.
greg fitzsimmons
That should be part of first class.
It's just a fucking little, like a urinal divider comes up in between you and that guy.
joe rogan
As soon as someone starts talking to you, just look at him.
And your eyes slowly.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's some people that you sit next to, it's great, but you can't choose.
I was on the fucking plane the other day, headed back from Vegas, and there was a drunk guy that was doing, air quotes, business on the phone.
And he was so loud.
Tony and I were like, what the fuck?
And he was like, well, basically the bottom line is, if we get this account, we are set.
And he's drunk, and he's being real.
I think maybe he was doing it to let everyone know that he's doing business.
greg fitzsimmons
Of course he was.
joe rogan
Because he was definitely hammered.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
The plane takes off, and then within five minutes of the flight being in the air, he's out cold, snoring.
Just drunk off his ass.
Probably stayed up all night, got on the flight.
greg fitzsimmons
Pig.
unidentified
Alcohol.
greg fitzsimmons
He had some runaway grinding on his cock to a Van Halen song about three hours earlier.
joe rogan
That's the good part.
Panama!
greg fitzsimmons
Panama!
Just rocked out to some Van Halen driving over here.
They came on the Sirius XM. Eddie Van Halen is one of the greatest guitar players ever.
joe rogan
Of all time.
Unquestionably.
He's a bad motherfucker.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
But Vali Bertinelli.
greg fitzsimmons
In our prime.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Wrecked that band, though.
greg fitzsimmons
Did she?
Did she yoko it?
unidentified
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, I didn't know that.
unidentified
In a lot of ways.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's why David Lee Roth, that's a big part of why David Lee Roth jettisoned during the prime days.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
And then they turned into Sam Hagar.
greg fitzsimmons
Didn't enjoy one of those songs.
joe rogan
It was a different band.
It was weird.
It was still super successful and maybe even more successful with Sammy Hagar than it was with David Lee Roth.
But man, it was not the same band.
greg fitzsimmons
It was a different band entirely.
joe rogan
It was weird.
It was weird.
greg fitzsimmons
It's not like ACDC, which just smoothly transitioned.
joe rogan
Yeah, like you can't even tell.
You go listen to old ACDC and then the new singer ACDC, which is old still now, but it's all ACDC. Van Halen's like two fucking massively different bands.
But there's like that poppy, bullshitty stuff that became massively, massively successful.
greg fitzsimmons
Well, it was like guys trying to be hard rockers.
It was like they were playing a character.
That's what Sammy Hagar always seemed like to me.
I can't drive!
You can't drive 55?
unidentified
55!
greg fitzsimmons
Really?
You can't?
Even if there's a cop on the side of the road, you'd like literally have to speed past the cop.
joe rogan
55 is a bullshit speed limit though.
That's why they got rid of it.
greg fitzsimmons
It's really 65. Now?
But I mean, if it says 65, you can go 74. You won't get pulled over.
joe rogan
Yeah, you might.
greg fitzsimmons
Well, on a Porsche you will.
joe rogan
You can get pulled over.
greg fitzsimmons
You're a lightning rod in that thing.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
In any kind of car, though, if you're going 10 miles an hour over, they can get you.
greg fitzsimmons
Not a Prius.
unidentified
Really?
greg fitzsimmons
No, they just look at you and they feel so bad for you.
joe rogan
Poor bastard.
This car doesn't even make noise.
greg fitzsimmons
I can't believe he can even go.
I'm proud of him.
joe rogan
He's rolling down a hill like a fucking Hot Wheels car.
greg fitzsimmons
Look, he's got golf clubs on the back.
joe rogan
How many gallons or gas, how many miles to the gallon do you get?
greg fitzsimmons
You want to hear the sad part?
There's a button that you can push on your Prius that takes all the electricity off so that you just drive with the gas, but it makes you, like, way faster.
And I push that every time, so I don't even really get the savings.
joe rogan
Really?
It takes away the electricity?
greg fitzsimmons
It's like a boost.
I don't know if it completely does, but it gives you...
I'm telling you, it is a quick car.
If you don't have the electricity thing turned on.
Because it's so fucking light and aerodynamic.
It's quick.
I'm telling you, I line up on the fucking...
At a red light, I line up against Mustang GTs.
joe rogan
And they just don't try to beat you because you're a Prius.
greg fitzsimmons
That's right.
We race for pink slips.
joe rogan
Well, it also has no gears, right?
greg fitzsimmons
No gears.
joe rogan
It's just one gear.
Fast, slow.
Fast, slow.
greg fitzsimmons
Yep.
joe rogan
If you fill your tank up with gas, how long does it last?
greg fitzsimmons
I don't drive a lot.
I live on the west side.
I drive three miles at a time.
joe rogan
Do you still miss Venice?
Do you still miss being in that little tight-knit community?
greg fitzsimmons
Well, you know, I'm only a mile away.
joe rogan
Right.
greg fitzsimmons
But, yeah, I miss it a lot.
It makes my quality of life is about 30% worse not living in that neighborhood.
I used to walk my dog and say hi to seven people, which I know we've talked about.
You don't love that.
I love that.
I like to be in contact with people.
I like to walk into houses.
joe rogan
Well, I'd love that if it was like you.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
If, you know, on my block was Duncan, Ari, you, Callan, Joey Diaz, we'd have a fucking great time.
greg fitzsimmons
It would be awesome.
unidentified
That's the goal.
greg fitzsimmons
We gotta get a cul-de-sac and all buy houses.
joe rogan
Yeah, we'd have to all agree to live together.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, we'd have to all like find a spot together.
That we all agree to.
But if you could engineer that...
greg fitzsimmons
Share a pool.
Have like a rec room where there's a pool table and a ping pong table.
joe rogan
That can be done.
greg fitzsimmons
Steam room.
joe rogan
What you gotta do is you gotta buy like a giant piece of land and develop on it.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Develop your own gated community.
greg fitzsimmons
Yep.
Call it a church.
Don't pay taxes.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Fuck all each other's wives, right?
greg fitzsimmons
What?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, that's what we do.
Take acid, Kool-Aid, whatever we gotta do.
greg fitzsimmons
Do Bikram yoga every morning.
joe rogan
Well, do yoga.
We'll bring Bikram in.
He'll be the leader.
Put him on the hill.
He'll start his automotive engineering school there.
This warehouse.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, our kids will all be fucking mechanics.
joe rogan
They'll all know how to fix Rolls Royces.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, you know who's done that?
There's a guy, Uriah Faber, who's a former WEC champion.
He's fighting for the UFC bantamweight title.
Great guy.
A lot of his fighters, they have a house on a cul-de-sac.
They call it The Block.
Bought a few houses in this area.
It's one area.
Because he buys and flips houses.
It's one of his side gigs.
He buys houses and I believe his dad does construction.
His dad refurbishes these houses and sells them.
So they bought some houses all on the same block.
And while he was, I think New Year's Eve, some girl broke into his house, shit all over the place, threw up, like some girl that he didn't even know.
She was hammered and she broke into his house and he like, I think he filmed it and put it on YouTube or like put it on Instagram or something like that.
greg fitzsimmons
You mean his security cameras caught it?
joe rogan
No, he was there!
Like, he was there.
This girl, like, came into his house, and she was just completely smashed.
He had no idea who she was.
greg fitzsimmons
So he just pulled out his phone and started videotaping it?
joe rogan
See if he could find that.
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
Like, just as an experiment?
Like, let's see what she'll do?
joe rogan
Well, I think he was like, um, this is not your house.
You have to leave.
greg fitzsimmons
No shit.
joe rogan
She was just so fucking smashed, she didn't know where she was.
greg fitzsimmons
He could have been Dr. Huxtable that night.
joe rogan
Well, I think she was relatively large.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
And here it is.
Uriah Faber's Snapchat.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, there was other guys there.
joe rogan
Yeah.
She locked herself in his bathroom.
So he's...
He's walking with his phone to the bathroom.
See if you can skip through a lot of this.
greg fitzsimmons
And I'm guessing he's got the right to show this because it's his house.
joe rogan
Oh, the cops showed up now.
The cops are going to kick this girl off.
These are all edited videos.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, it's all edited.
You don't have the good stuff.
joe rogan
Oh, I see, I see.
Do you do Snapchat?
Do you have a Snapchat?
greg fitzsimmons
I... I'm not sure if I have it or not.
joe rogan
I do not have a Snapchat, but people like that shit.
They like the Snapchat.
greg fitzsimmons
Is Snapchat when it goes up and then you watch it and it comes down?
joe rogan
Yeah, it goes away after a while.
greg fitzsimmons
Why would you want it to go away though?
joe rogan
I'm not sure.
I think you can keep it if you want.
You can make it stay there and it becomes like a story or something.
greg fitzsimmons
Right, that's the new thing.
joe rogan
I can't keep up with all this shit.
There's too many.
greg fitzsimmons
Do you periscope?
joe rogan
I have periscoped.
I stopped periscoping.
I did it for a while.
But I'm on Brody Stevens all the time.
greg fitzsimmons
I watch him all the time.
joe rogan
He periscopes everything.
greg fitzsimmons
It's the greatest.
joe rogan
He puts his iPhone on a holster and periscopes on his way to work, on his way to the store.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
Just talking.
joe rogan
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
While Joey Diaz doing the morning smoke is the greatest.
joe rogan
That's the greatest.
Joey gets up every morning.
I think he does it at 7 o'clock in the morning.
He smokes a joint and starts talking.
He gives you motivation.
Motivational insight from Uncle Joey.
greg fitzsimmons
Good morning, motherfuckers.
unidentified
And he gets high.
joe rogan
Like ridiculously high.
And he's doing it on camera.
You just keep seeing him hitting it and smoking.
That was one of the ones where he explained his beef with John Caparulo.
greg fitzsimmons
He had a beef with John Caparulo?
joe rogan
Oh my god, legendary.
greg fitzsimmons
No shit.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
What happened?
joe rogan
It played out on Twitter where they were both going back and forth with each other.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah?
joe rogan
Yeah, and then it played out at the Comedy Store where Joey apparently and him got into some sort of an altercation recently.
greg fitzsimmons
Physical?
joe rogan
Joey spit in his face, I think.
greg fitzsimmons
Whoa!
joe rogan
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
Was it a joke thief thing?
joe rogan
No, no.
You would have to talk to both of them for it to be fair, for me to give you a real assessment of what happened.
greg fitzsimmons
Okay.
joe rogan
But essentially, it was Joey's contention that John was trying to control the lineups and keep certain people from performing.
Really?
That he fucked over other comedians in doing so.
John Caparulo denies this.
And he says that Joey's a bully and a prison yard asshole and that kind of shit.
So, you know, obviously my loyalty is with Joey Diaz.
greg fitzsimmons
I'm on Joey's side all the way.
unidentified
Always.
greg fitzsimmons
Fuck Caparilla.
unidentified
I don't know.
greg fitzsimmons
You know what that guy did to me one time?
joe rogan
Caparulo?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
What'd he do?
greg fitzsimmons
He asked me, can I be on your podcast?
And I'm like, all right.
unidentified
Whatever.
greg fitzsimmons
So I give him a date, time.
We come up with a date and a time.
And then, like, it's 11 o'clock, and I email him, like, where are you?
And he's like, oh, I'm on my way, but there's really thick traffic on the 405. And I look, you know, I look it up on IMAPs.
It's fucking, it's all green.
Everything's green.
It's a pasture.
There's no red lines.
And so I go, all right, well, I'm here.
Come whenever.
And then he, you know, emails me back like 20 minutes later.
I'm fucking wasting my whole day.
And he's like, it's not geographically optimal for me right now.
But I'm free all day if you want to come to my house.
Come up to my house in the valley.
And I was just like, delete.
joe rogan
What?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
unidentified
Hmm.
joe rogan
How odd.
greg fitzsimmons
I don't want to feed into a beef here.
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't think you are, but I think you're, you know, there's something going on there.
greg fitzsimmons
Something weird.
joe rogan
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
Kind of controlling.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I don't know.
It might.
Who knows?
We could talk off air.
I could speculate with you off air involving all sorts of various things that people might get really excited about doing.
A lot of speculation.
I never have a problem with him.
I've never had a problem with him.
I don't know.
greg fitzsimmons
No, he's a good guy.
joe rogan
He thinks, though, that I somehow or another am involved in this, and so his paranoia is fed into this.
He thinks that Joey Diaz is my hitman, and that somehow or another I'm plotting against him, which I don't even understand why I would do that.
I don't know why.
I don't get it.
I don't know, man.
Some people, they tripped themselves.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, absolutely.
And the thing is about the Comedy Store, as much as I love it, sometimes that shit gets a little schoolyardy.
joe rogan
Not as much anymore, man.
Now that Tommy's gone, I mean, that is also because...
John was friends with Tommy.
And that's also part of Joey's contention is that he pulled up with Tommy to control that place.
I don't know.
I don't give a fuck.
I go, I tell my jokes, I say hi to people like you.
I hang out with my friends.
I don't want to be involved.
I don't give a fuck.
greg fitzsimmons
You get there 20 minutes early, say what's up.
joe rogan
All that shit is just a waste of time.
There's a lot of people out there that are living their lives just sort of going with the momentum of all these things that people love to do, all the gossipy things and, you know, get involved in controlling this.
Think about yourself.
Just think about what you're doing.
Don't get distracted.
And I think a lot of that is a distraction.
A lot of the people's fixating on other people.
This fucking guy, he's doing this.
That fucking guy's doing that.
Man, he's not even funny.
Why is he getting on before me?
That is all a distraction.
And it keeps you from thinking about yourself.
There's a lot of people out there that spend a tremendous amount of time hating on other people and very little time working on themselves.
And it's a fucking trap.
It's an easy trap to get into because there's no commitment to hating on someone.
There's no consequences if it doesn't go well.
So you put your energy into that.
And, you know, almost like you're hoping they fail so that it justifies this idea that you have in your head, but you're not benefiting from it.
greg fitzsimmons
And it's wasting.
You can waste a day.
You can stew about something, and then all of a sudden, at the end of the day, and there was shit that you wanted to accomplish that you didn't do because you were obsessed with fucking Googling the person and finding out if it's a story that people are latching onto.
Like, this whole thing with Joey.
I'm sure it's wasted more of his time than he wanted it to.
joe rogan
Yeah, but he put it on Periscope and it's pretty amusing.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, he did.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And he's smoking pot while he's talking about it.
Let me explain to you what that cunt did.
I don't know.
greg fitzsimmons
Why do people love it so much, though?
joe rogan
I don't know.
Why do I love it?
greg fitzsimmons
I don't know.
joe rogan
I don't love it with everybody, though.
With Joey, it's just entertaining.
I don't know.
Well, I love him so much.
When he's involved in something, I'm involved whether I like it or not.
I have to be.
But it's...
There's a lot of wasted energy, is my point.
And even with Joey, he's done with it now.
He won't even talk about it now.
He goes, I don't give a fuck.
I don't give a fuck, Joe Rogan.
I murdered them in San Jose!
greg fitzsimmons
Murdered them!
joe rogan
He's just out there smashing.
He's hit a whole new level recently, too.
unidentified
Yeah?
greg fitzsimmons
Has he?
joe rogan
Oh my god.
He's got this bit, I don't want to give up any of the details of the bit, but he's got this bit where I'm just like, the frenzy that he approaches this bit with on stage, like, wow, he's on another level.
He's like hitting new levels.
greg fitzsimmons
Well, I had to follow him in the main room of the store recently, and he went up and People were doubled over.
They couldn't even make noise.
It was just cruel what he did to this audience.
And then, you know, in the comedy story, each act brings up the next act.
So he introduces me and then I come up and he shakes my hand and he whispers in my ear, Sorry, dude.
unidentified
He knew I couldn't follow it right out of the gate.
Oh.
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
He's a monster.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
He murdered in Vegas.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I was with him in Vegas two weeks ago.
A car theater, 2,000 people.
unidentified
He's fucking destroyed.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
unidentified
Destroyed.
joe rogan
He's a monster.
He's just, uh, he's hit this level right now where he's just so free and loose and he's concentrating on stand-up so much.
He's really into it, you know?
And he's reaping the rewards.
Like, finally people are recognizing, like, he sells out everywhere now, like, in advance.
So finally people are recognizing how talented he is and how dedicated he is.
I mean it's really just one of those examples of focus and attention equaling results.
Like focusing on something, really honing it and really putting your focus and your attention on something and then seeing the results of it.
He's just really passionate right now about stand-up.
He's always been.
But right now because he's getting so much love and he's just constantly selling out everywhere, crushing it.
So he's like really like feeling it.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
I think Bill Burr went through the same thing.
He just put massive focus on, you know, he just, one of those guys, you know, he would put writing and performing ahead of other things.
Be like, hey man, you want to do a podcast?
I can't for the next two months.
I'm just focusing on stand-up.
That's it.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, that's the way to do it, right?
I mean, you can always focus more, right?
And I think for me, the balance has always been focusing so much that I lose some passion for it.
You know, like sometimes I take a couple of days off and I come back hot and rejuvenated.
Like last night was really fucking fun.
We did this benefit.
Brian Callen had a benefit last night.
We did it in the main room.
And so last night was Tuesday, so I didn't work Sunday or Monday.
So taking Sunday or Monday off, I came in Tuesday fired up.
It's nice.
So I think there's this balance of letting it go, living life, and then concentrating again, coming back at it.
It's like grinding too much is not good either because then you lose a little bit of focus.
There's this weird balance that you have to achieve.
greg fitzsimmons
There's also a nice balance between the road and in town.
I just did three weeks in a row on the road.
I came back.
I took off four days or something.
And then when I went out, it was like when you'd been running with weights and all of a sudden you're doing a 15-minute spot at the comedy store in front of a hot crowd.
And it was like...
Just fucking effortless.
It was like you were floating above the room going like, yeah, now I'll throw this in.
I'll throw it like, just toying with them.
unidentified
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
Having such a blast.
joe rogan
Well, you know, it's also those long sets that you do on the road.
That's what brings everything together.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
When you're doing like a headlining set and you're doing an hour and ten and just sort of sorting it all out and putting it all together and you get loose and you just do it like Friday night two shows, Saturday night two shows.
Dude, comedy is in a lot of ways like exercise.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, you get in shape.
You get in shape for it.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
And also like exercise, you need recovery.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
When we were young, we didn't recover.
I mean, I used to work six, seven nights a week, fucking every week, year round.
unidentified
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
And you kind of need that when you're starting out.
joe rogan
Well, we were so...
We were like colts right out of the horse's pussy.
We just didn't know how to walk.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
We just needed to get on stage to get our stage legs.
Yeah, right.
It's a strange thing, comedy, because you really think after all these years that you would have it down, but you don't really.
You're always getting better.
You always have to stay on top of it.
I wonder if music is like that.
I guess it must be, because musicians are notorious for their practice.
That's one thing that I think I kind of envy about musicians.
They have to be disciplined.
They have to practice.
They can't practice in front of a crowd.
They can't go in front of a crowd with a half-assed song.
And hope it comes together because the crowd's hot.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Right, right.
greg fitzsimmons
You can't talk to the crowd halfway through because you didn't finish writing the book.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
Like, someone said something about Ian Edwards.
Like, you know, that Ian, like, oh, man, he's fucking writing.
He's always writing.
He's always putting stuff together.
Like, yeah, shouldn't we all be doing that, man?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, yeah, I guess so.
He was like, yeah, I guess so.
But I like to write on stage.
Well, yeah, because it's fucking easier that way.
You go on stage with a half-assed premise and you're forced to kind of put it together.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
It's just fear that keeps you from sitting down and doing it.
I think people feel like maybe they're not...
That strong of a writer, and they sit down, and they're almost afraid that it won't come together.
But then when you have the energy of being on stage, then, you know, you can use that.
But it's just, it's slower, you know, writing off stage.
It takes longer because you're just not, your energy's not as high.
But you can lay down the idea, at least, and the structure, and then maybe it'll get funnier on stage.
But you can't start from scratch up there.
joe rogan
Some people can.
I mean, some people do.
But I think everybody would benefit from both.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
I think everybody would benefit from ad-libbing on stage, and everybody would benefit from writing more.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's what I try to tell young comics.
I'm like, man, you force yourself to write.
Even if you only write an hour a day, just sit down for an hour a day, just force yourself to go over some ideas, and they will blossom, man.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
They will fucking find a way to make it out to that stage.
greg fitzsimmons
And they may not right away.
Sometimes, like, I haven't done this in a while, but I bought a notebook about a month ago, and I just started writing longhand again, you know, read the paper for a little while, or just muse, listen to sets that I did on stage, and maybe I started a little tangent and, you know, write that up, and I just fucking fill in this notebook.
And it's not all making it right into my act, but some of it is.
Some of it goes into the podcast.
It's kind of like just a running journal that I can draw from.
But I've had bits that I've started a year before and pounded it, believed in it, kept trying it, trying it, hitting my head against it while it doesn't work.
And then you pick it up again six months ago and it just clicked.
It's like you found it.
But it has to sit latent in your brain sometimes for it to work.
joe rogan
Yeah, sometimes a thing can happen in life and that thing in life opens up a door.
And you go, oh, I could approach it this way.
Or, oh, I'm looking at it the wrong way.
Or, oh, of course, it's this.
I think that's the same way with any kind of creative writing.
Whether you're writing stories, you're writing a blog.
Sometimes you just have to go outside of it.
You write some stuff down, then you go outside of it, live your life, and then re-approach it.
Every day, my perspective shifts at least a little bit.
You have core values and things you believe in and things you agree with and don't agree with.
But every day, some things will happen in life that make you look at things a little bit of a different way.
Especially when it comes to current events and politics and the world.
Every day, people go, oh man, you were so wishy-washy with some of your ideas.
Well, yeah, they're fucking flexible.
They're moving around a lot.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, especially when it comes to things that are happening in the world.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
And I think sometimes you just gotta, like, let those things, like, let your thoughts sort of roll around without trying to constantly define them and then re-approach the idea.
Then come back to the original notebook or the original piece that you wrote and look at it again maybe a week later and go, well, now that I've experienced a couple things in life this week and looked at the world a little bit, One of the things that Tom Segur and Christina Pazitsky do, we had a conversation, Christina and I, the other day.
She said that they used to do their podcast twice a week, and they decided to go back to doing it once a week.
And I was like, how come?
And she goes, I think it's good to live, to live your life and then have some shit to talk about.
Like, if you do too many of them, then sometimes you're just talking shit and doesn't necessarily mean anything.
greg fitzsimmons
Well, especially because for them it's about their relationship and what's happened in it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
So, you know, they're not bringing in a new guest who can bring new ideas.
They're talking about their life.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, they occasionally have guests, but yeah, for the most part.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's the way to avoid it, is to have guests.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, right.
joe rogan
Like, people always say, like, how do you talk to people for three hours, five days a week?
Well, they're fucking interesting people.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, it's not hard.
You just have cool conversations.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, right.
joe rogan
You know, but if you don't...
If you just do it yourself, like, Bill Burr is the most amazing one.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because Bill doesn't even have a fucking guest.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
And he's got a couple ideas of some shit he wants to talk about, some things that happen, but he just rambles.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
By himself.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, I started doing a thing, I've done about five of them now, called The Sunday Papers, where I just, I get the Sunday paper and I read it and I just make some notes and then I just hit record and I go for an hour about the Sunday paper.
joe rogan
I'm going to do one.
I'm going to be on vacation this week, after this weekend.
And when I go on vacation from doing the podcast, I'm going to put up a little Instagram question mark.
And I'm going to say, just ask me some questions.
Throw some questions.
And I'm going to just answer some of the questions on a iPhone.
Oh, that's great.
greg fitzsimmons
You're going to be on vacation with the family?
joe rogan
Yes, my friend.
greg fitzsimmons
Nice.
Relax.
Yeah, there you go.
joe rogan
You need more of that, right?
unidentified
I know.
joe rogan
You need more relax in this life.
More relax.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, we're going to Colorado next week.
Ski.
joe rogan
I thought you were going to say get high.
greg fitzsimmons
Going to get high.
Well, I'll probably get high.
I'm doing shows, but then we're going to go ski after that.
joe rogan
Which part?
Aspen?
greg fitzsimmons
I don't know.
We just kind of rented a car.
We'll go get on 70 West, maybe stop in Breckenridge or maybe go to Vail.
I know Ari just went to Vail.
joe rogan
He just broke his ankle.
greg fitzsimmons
Broke his ankle out there.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Fuck skiing.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, really?
You're not a skier?
joe rogan
I landed pretty hard last time I went.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
A couple months ago.
Not even.
I guess a month ago.
A month ago, I wiped.
Boom!
greg fitzsimmons
And that was it?
You just said, I'm done?
joe rogan
I was just like, this is so ridiculous.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, I do things that are more fun.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, I do a lot of things that are really fun.
So skiing is like, don't get hurt, don't get hurt, don't get hurt.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, no, that's true.
joe rogan
Whoops, here we go.
unidentified
Boom!
greg fitzsimmons
That's true.
It's almost like the entire adventure is based on not breaking something.
It's like the tension between...
Yeah, the scenery's nice and all that, but really you're thinking, don't get hurt.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I mean, I get it.
I get it.
And it's a fun time for me to be with my family.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's fun.
It's fun.
The kids love skiing.
It's a good time.
I don't mind doing it, but...
greg fitzsimmons
You just gotta slow down.
Were you going fast?
joe rogan
I wasn't even going that fast.
I go a little bit faster than I should, probably.
greg fitzsimmons
Would you catch an edge?
joe rogan
I don't know what happened.
I don't remember what happened.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
But I remember as I was falling, going, uh-oh, this one might be a bad one.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
I'm good at rolling, though.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I'm good at, like, I know how to not fall too bad, so I was fine, but I was like, ooh, that was a hard hit.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
I walked out of it, no problem, put my ski back on, skied down the mountain.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I was fine.
But I was like, people get fucked up doing this sometimes.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
I saw a guy get carried away, too.
unidentified
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, you're supposed to wear a helmet.
joe rogan
I wear a helmet.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, you do?
unidentified
Yes.
greg fitzsimmons
No shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, always.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
You don't?
greg fitzsimmons
No.
joe rogan
Really?
greg fitzsimmons
Maybe I will.
joe rogan
Wear a helmet, please.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, right.
joe rogan
My friend got knocked the fuck out last year snowboarding, and he was jacked for a while.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah, he just fucking whoopsied, landed completely on his head.
His feet went up in the air, and he just boom, head first, all head.
greg fitzsimmons
Back or front?
joe rogan
Somewhere.
He doesn't know.
He doesn't know.
He went out.
greg fitzsimmons
Shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, just thump.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
And by the way, that thump could be thump snap.
Oh, guess what?
Now you're moving around with a straw.
You have a straw in your mouth.
And that's how you navigate through life.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
All because you were into like a thrill.
greg fitzsimmons
Well, what about the skin and trees going between the trees where...
It's grooves.
You're going between trees and where your skis go are like deep grooves that your ski has to go directly into.
And if you catch an edge, you flip over like a fucking tree.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I mean, I get it.
I get that people like it.
But like my friend Aubrey is good friends with Bodie Miller.
He's that Olympic guy, ski guy, just mangled his fucking leg.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
He just wiped out and crashed into something and just fucked his leg up.
greg fitzsimmons
They go 60 miles an hour.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Jesus Christ.
But I make even guys who are that good still wipe out and fuck themselves up.
greg fitzsimmons
Hell yeah.
joe rogan
It just seems like there's a lot of fun shit that I like to do.
That's one of the reasons why I didn't start skiing until late in life, because I did jiu-jitsu and all these other things that are dangerous for your body.
I'm like, I should probably limit the amount of dangerous shit.
That's why I wouldn't ride a motorcycle.
I'm like, I should probably back off of that.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
I started playing ice hockey again a few weeks ago.
Comedians got a little league going.
joe rogan
Bill's supposed to be good, right?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, he plays in it.
And Steve Byrne and Ian Baggs.
It's great exercise.
You know what?
It's not dangerous because we don't hit each other.
And you don't really ever fuck up a knee or an ankle in hockey because it's ice.
You slide.
It doesn't stick and turn.
You just kind of slide.
And so unless you trip and fall into a wall, you're pretty safe.
joe rogan
Well, Bobby Orr had mangled knees, man.
greg fitzsimmons
Did he?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Bobby Orr used to come to the gym that I worked at.
When I was a kid, I worked at the Boston Athletic Center, which is like a Boston Athletic Club, I guess it was.
And that was, um, I was, uh...
18, I guess?
18, 19?
Something like that?
And Bobby Orr was this legend, you know, this hockey legend.
He was older by then, you know, long retired.
But he would come into the gym and he couldn't even fucking walk.
And we would have to help him climb onto the VersaClimber.
You know the VersaClimber, that thing?
It's like a pole and you...
Go up and down, up and down.
You'd have to help him pick his legs up because his knees don't bend.
unidentified
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
They don't completely lock out and they don't completely bend.
It's like this.
greg fitzsimmons
It's like the one thing he can do in the gym?
joe rogan
Yeah, he goes like from this.
From completely straight, he's like five degrees bent.
He's always bent.
And then it only goes to like maybe 15 degrees.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's like this tiny amount of bend that he has in his legs.
Because he's had just massive surgeries all through his knees.
greg fitzsimmons
Wow.
joe rogan
You watch him walk, there's his knee.
greg fitzsimmons
Damn!
joe rogan
And look at all the cuts on his knees.
And by the way, that's back in the olden days.
And look at the different operations.
73, 72, 71. Right.
Ugh, 69, 1970. Oh my god.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, you know how bad the equipment was back then?
The skates were like saws.
joe rogan
The skates were bad, and the surgeries were terrible.
They didn't know how to fix you.
They would fix you, and you'd just go up above that, and you could see his knee.
Look at that.
Yeah, look at that fucking thing.
Jesus Christ.
greg fitzsimmons
Damn, that is brutal.
joe rogan
It was awful.
Oh, is it someone else's knee?
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
Just watching him walk, and he would play racquetball.
And I'd watch him play racquetball, and he would just fall down.
He would just try to move forward, and he'd just fall.
Just couldn't move.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, he was basically left with pegs that barely bent.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
And that's how he got around.
It's like, left, right peg.
Right peg, left peg.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
A lot of hockey players, though, they play golf.
You know, they retire and they play a lot of golf.
That's like the big sports in Canada are golf and hockey.
It's the same swing.
Slap shot and a golf swing are pretty similar.
joe rogan
Oh, that's Happy Madison, right?
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
That's why...
greg fitzsimmons
That's right.
See?
There's real science behind it.
But no, I think that football players are the worst.
Those guys, you see any football player after they finish playing and they're fucking stumbling around.
unidentified
Mangled.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're mangled.
Some of them not.
You know, it's interesting.
Some of them are really lucid.
They get through it.
Like Michael Irvin.
Michael Irvin is super lucid.
He's got no problems.
I mean, maybe he's, you know, banged up a little bit.
greg fitzsimmons
But he can walk around?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, he's fine.
He looks great.
He looks great.
Talks great.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's an interesting guy, man.
Very fucking smart dude.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Very smart guy.
Big UFC fan.
I talk to him all the time.
I see him at the matches.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, no shit.
joe rogan
Fantastic guy.
greg fitzsimmons
Wow.
Does he do sportscasting?
joe rogan
I'm sure he does.
unidentified
I think he does.
joe rogan
He must.
Does he?
Yeah.
Jamie's nose.
greg fitzsimmons
On Sunday morning stuff.
joe rogan
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
With that, uh, with the guy, uh, Michael Strahan.
joe rogan
The guy from that show?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
He's so annoying.
joe rogan
Why is he annoying?
unidentified
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
He's just trying so hard to be likable.
I just don't buy it.
It just feels hollow.
And meanwhile, I love that Kelly Lee.
I could watch her all fucking day.
joe rogan
That's why.
You don't like him.
unidentified
Maybe.
joe rogan
Because you think he's sending the dick her way.
greg fitzsimmons
I don't like the black-white relationships in general.
joe rogan
Disturb you?
greg fitzsimmons
They just feel wrong.
I mean, I was born in 66 when things were normal.
unidentified
When things were right back in the olden days before the colors mixed.
greg fitzsimmons
When a man could get water from a drinking fountain and not worry about it.
joe rogan
Do you think he's giving her the dick?
greg fitzsimmons
I don't, but I... And it's not sexual with her.
It is sexual.
But it's also, I think that she is really fucking...
You don't think they look great together?
No, I don't.
Look at that fake smile.
unidentified
Are you being serious?
greg fitzsimmons
I really don't like him.
You know?
joe rogan
Do you really have a problem with black-white relationships?
Not really, right?
unidentified
No.
greg fitzsimmons
No, but I have a problem with his phoniness and just that she deserves better.
unidentified
Ha ha!
greg fitzsimmons
She deserves Regis.
Regis was the best.
joe rogan
Regis and her.
greg fitzsimmons
That's part of my problem, is Regis withdrawal.
joe rogan
Well, Regis is doing other shit now.
Like, he didn't stop working.
unidentified
It's weird.
greg fitzsimmons
He had the life, though, man.
You know what he used to do to prep for that show?
joe rogan
What?
greg fitzsimmons
Get picked up by a limo, get handed the paper, read it on the way to the studio, and fucking go on the air.
That's all he did.
Just off the top of his head.
joe rogan
Well, he was so relaxed.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Comfortable.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
I wonder why he stopped doing it.
greg fitzsimmons
Maybe the grind of doing it every week.
He did it for a lot of years.
joe rogan
Yeah.
But he still has a show.
He has a show.
Yeah, he still has some show that I saw.
And it was weird.
It was on, like, AXS TV or something.
Like, one of the smaller networks.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
So I guess he's probably just doing that for fun.
greg fitzsimmons
Wow.
joe rogan
You know, just to stay active or something like that.
Like, Regis Philbin's show.
I'm sure he's got something.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
I don't know what it is.
But he, um...
I think he decided.
I don't want to do it anymore.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
I mean, I guess it's like Jay Leno when he walked away.
joe rogan
Yeah, but Jay's doing that car show.
greg fitzsimmons
No, that's what I mean.
And then he wanted to do a little something to stay busy.
joe rogan
Well, he did the car show while he was doing The Tonight Show.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, did he?
joe rogan
Yeah, but the car show is so much more him.
He's so much better on it.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
He's so passionate about it.
Well, he's a fucking legitimate car aficionado and nut.
He's a nut.
He fucking loves cars.
So when you're with him and you're talking to him about cars, his eyes light up.
He gets excited.
And he's fun.
I did a show.
greg fitzsimmons
Did you?
joe rogan
Yeah, we drove my 65 Corvette.
unidentified
Oh, I saw it.
greg fitzsimmons
I saw it.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
And he's, you know, he's great.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's great.
I mean, the public knew him as only that.
And, you know, he'll admit it.
He's like, that was part of the problem with doing that show.
He's like, I had to talk to people, but I didn't give a fuck about your sitcom or your fucking stupid album that comes out.
He didn't care.
But if he's got you on his car show, it's because he's legitimately interested in your car.
That's it.
That's the only reason why he does it.
He's got all the money in the world.
He doesn't give a fuck.
He's only doing it for his own enjoyment.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, I can remember seeing Letterman with like a country music star on and you knew that he just wanted to say, what the fuck?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Especially like pop country.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Some whack dude with some designer fucking cowboy hat on and boots that he's never worn before and they're all shiny and fake.
greg fitzsimmons
And his face doesn't change.
joe rogan
Fake rips in his jeans.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
When you see a country guy with fake rips in his jeans, oh, how dare you?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You're not a working man.
How'd you get those rips?
You bought them.
You bought those rips, you fuck.
greg fitzsimmons
Did your assistant go out and get ripped?
Or you get the hipsters that go out and they buy work boots used that already are like...
Somebody else has been stinking in them.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, you gotta wear your own work boots, you fuck.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Break them in.
greg fitzsimmons
Fuck yeah.
joe rogan
Live your life.
greg fitzsimmons
I got a pair of Timberlands I got about 15, 20 years ago.
joe rogan
Really?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, they feel nice.
Timberlands are the greatest.
joe rogan
They last.
greg fitzsimmons
They're so good.
joe rogan
They were big in the hip-hop community.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
What is that?
How'd that happen?
greg fitzsimmons
I don't know, but I know that when...
Was it Dom Perignon?
One of the brands that got kind of co-opted by hip-hop.
Was it Cristal?
Yeah, it was Cristal.
And they were very upset that hip-hop had taken over.
Because here they are, like this elite, you know, white collar kind of a...
joe rogan
Yeah, but they started complaining about it, and then the hip-hop community rejected them, and their fucking sales plummeted.
greg fitzsimmons
That's right.
joe rogan
They plummeted.
That's interesting, isn't it?
greg fitzsimmons
You gotta take that money where you get it.
joe rogan
Yeah, but you have a great champagne.
What do you give a fuck?
If rappers start buying Rolls Royces, you're gonna be upset?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
unidentified
You know?
joe rogan
Come on, bitch.
greg fitzsimmons
Even if they're spilling your champagne on the floor?
joe rogan
Sounds like racism to me.
greg fitzsimmons
As long as it's not spilling it with a white person.
Let them spill it with themselves.
joe rogan
It's weird how certain drinks get associated with certain races.
Like Crevasse is a black drink.
greg fitzsimmons
Black drink.
joe rogan
Right?
greg fitzsimmons
Alright, I'll name a drink, you tell me the race.
Okay.
unidentified
Vodka.
greg fitzsimmons
Ripple.
joe rogan
Ripple.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's black, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's a wine.
greg fitzsimmons
Manischewitz.
joe rogan
You know how I know that?
This is how dated I am.
greg fitzsimmons
Sanford and Son.
unidentified
I know what you're going to say.
greg fitzsimmons
Sanford and Son.
joe rogan
Because Red Fox used to drink Ripple Wine.
I don't even know what it looks like.
I've never seen it.
I just know.
greg fitzsimmons
Alright, Manischewitz.
joe rogan
Oh, juice.
greg fitzsimmons
Bailey's Irish Cream.
joe rogan
Irish people?
greg fitzsimmons
That was an easy one.
Budweiser.
joe rogan
White people with marital problems.
greg fitzsimmons
Were they caused by the Budweiser or just placated by the Budweiser?
joe rogan
All of the above.
It's in the mix.
greg fitzsimmons
Champagne.
joe rogan
Who buys champagne?
Other than like New Year's Eve.
New Year's Eve is kind of universal, right?
Everybody gets champagne.
And celebrating shit, like weddings.
Who the fuck buys champagne on a normal basis?
greg fitzsimmons
French people.
unidentified
Really?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, French people drink it.
joe rogan
That makes sense.
Well, it is tasty.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
But what about Americans?
White assholes.
greg fitzsimmons
What, do they drink?
joe rogan
No, if you're a white asshole, you drink champagne, you know?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
Yeah, I was thinking of one person.
I won't say their name.
joe rogan
Okay, say it later.
greg fitzsimmons
I'll say it later.
Although, you know, when I used to work as a banquet waiter at the Marriott in Boston, we used to do these banquets, and sometimes they'd come in and they'd order Dom Perignon.
And I'll tell you what, man...
It's the best high.
If bad champagne gives you a headache, it's nasty, it's sugary, which is usually sparkling wine, it's not champagne.
To call it champagne, it has to be from this certain region of France.
It's the only place you can get it to put champagne on the label.
joe rogan
Oh, that's right.
greg fitzsimmons
And Dom Perignon is the best.
And I'm telling you, man, that shit, it makes you feel so good.
It tastes so good.
No hangover.
joe rogan
Really?
No hangover?
greg fitzsimmons
No hangover.
How's that possible?
Not like Champagne Hangover, which is the worst hangover you can get.
joe rogan
Is there really a difference in hangovers?
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
What's the difference?
greg fitzsimmons
Sugar.
Sugar content.
joe rogan
Oh, sugar content.
greg fitzsimmons
Hangovers are all about sugar.
joe rogan
Fucking sugar.
Right.
Well, as it explained to me by Carl Hart, Dr. Carl Hart, who was an addiction specialist, he said what hangovers really are is your body got temporarily addicted to the alcohol.
The feeling that you have, the headache and all that, a lot of it is dehydration, but a lot of it is also the compensatory mechanisms that your body puts in place to process the alcohol.
Your body literally shifts its...
It's sort of scheduling, shifts its organizing of chemicals and all the shit that's in your brain.
And then once the alcohol is not there anymore, it's not processing alcohol anymore.
And then you have this like, and that's the compensatory mechanisms flooding their way through your system.
That's also why people say, hair of the dog that bit you.
Like when you have a hangover and you have like a Bloody Mary in the morning, it helps you a little bit.
It soothes you over that hump.
greg fitzsimmons
Well, because it's poisonous.
Alcohol is poisonous to your system.
joe rogan
Yes, yes.
So it's counterintuitive that more alcohol would help you feel better.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
But the way Carl Hart explains it is that it's your body.
Your body recognizes, okay, there's this shit I have to process.
Let's deal with that.
So it compensates for that shit, and then that shit's not there anymore.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
And it's like, what's going on?
What are we doing?
We set up to deal with alcohol.
Now we don't have to deal with it anymore.
I had him on a couple times, and he's a fascinating, fascinating guy.
Very, very smart guy and knows so much about addictions and about various drugs and the reactions to the body and all the myths that people have.
It's amazing how many myths that people have about how hard things are to kick and what is instantly addictive.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
So what does he say?
Because I hear cigarettes are the most addictive.
Not cigarettes.
Yeah, is it cigarettes are more addictive than heroin?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
The cigarettes are super, super addictive.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Super addictive.
Did you ever see that movie with Russell Crowe, Inside Man?
greg fitzsimmons
Yes.
joe rogan
About the cigarette industry, about a scientist that's working with the cigarettes to try to make them more addictive, and then he goes out with it, which is apparently a real story.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh yeah, they were sued and they lost about it.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's what it is.
I mean, they've engineered them to be addictive.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
But pot, though, is not, they say, not physically addictive at all.
joe rogan
No, not physically addictive.
greg fitzsimmons
But it can be emotionally addictive.
joe rogan
Anything can.
A girl can be emotionally addictive.
Should we outlaw girls?
Jerking off can be emotionally and psychologically addictive.
A lot of things can be psychological.
Foods can be psychologically and physically addictive.
greg fitzsimmons
Work.
joe rogan
But one thing that they say about pot is, in rare individuals, it can be physically addictive.
But...
How much so?
Is it as physically addictive as sugar?
Because sugar is one of the most addictive things that we consume.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, I took just a few days off of sugar and I had fucking pounding headaches.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, I was like, whoa!
Yeah, I'm completely sugar-free now.
I don't eat anything with added sugar.
I don't eat any, no processed sugar, no nothing on this wacky diet that I'm on.
But one of the things that I found within the first few days was this overwhelming desire to eat it.
I wanted candy.
I wanted soda.
I wanted something.
Within the first couple days, my body was...
I'd get headaches.
And I would think about...
I could see a bag of those chili mangoes that I have back there that are covered in sugar.
Insane amounts of sugar.
And I just want them.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
And it's a sugar craving.
greg fitzsimmons
Did you eat a ton of sugar before you quit?
joe rogan
Not a ton, but more than I should have.
And it was all in the guise of healthy things.
Like, for instance, I was working out with my trainer today, and he had...
One of those protein bars, and he goes, I said, hey, you forgot your candy bar.
He goes, it's a protein bar.
I go, it's a protein bar.
I go, how much sugar is in that thing?
He goes, not that much.
I go, how much do you think?
He goes, nine grams.
I go, nine grams?
I go, I bet it's about 19 grams.
He's like, no, no, no, no, no.
And he looked at it.
He goes, 10 grams.
And I go, really?
I go, how many servings?
And he goes, oh, yeah.
unidentified
Two.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, no shit.
joe rogan
I go, those motherfuckers!
I'm telling you, dude, it was this big.
greg fitzsimmons
And it wasn't a chocolatey one.
joe rogan
It was chocolate on the outside.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, it was, yeah.
joe rogan
But it was four inches.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It was this tiny little thing.
And they were calling it two servants.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
Oh, that's great.
Those fuckers.
unidentified
Motherfucker.
joe rogan
Those fuckers.
It's only 10 grams of sugar.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
And then you look up and it's two servings.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Oh, the cunts.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, my kids eat granola.
My wife buys granola bars for the kids and they've got chocolate in them.
I'm like, honey, these are candy bars.
Yes.
Granola bar is like, you know, Nature Valley, oat, you know, it's got a lot of sugar in it, but there's no fucking chocolate at least.
joe rogan
Right.
content to like 10, 11 grams of sugar.
You're only supposed to eat 25 grams of sugar in a fucking day.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's stunning how much sugar is in everything.
There's a great documentary called That Sugar Movie, and it just details how all this happened and how many things have sugar in them and added sugar and how bad it is for your body.
It's fucking unbelievable.
It's toxic.
greg fitzsimmons
And how much worse corn syrup is than sugar.
Yeah.
I just did a corporate event in Fargo, North Dakota for the beet sugar farmers of America.
And it was all these farmers, mostly like family-owned little farms around Minnesota and North Dakota.
And they came in, and I walked on stage, and I go, fuck corn syrup!
and the place went, ah!
unidentified
Yeah, corn syrup just goes right to your ass.
greg fitzsimmons
And it's all because they were over-farming corn.
It's cheap to make and it's easy.
And the government was helping pay for it.
And they went, well, we're not going to stop.
What do we do with it?
Well, we'll make fucking sugar out of it.
joe rogan
Did you see king corn?
greg fitzsimmons
No.
joe rogan
Great documentary.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, yeah?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
Amazing.
It starts off with these guys.
They have this project.
They're going to grow corn.
They're going to get an acre of land and plow it themselves and grow corn.
And they start doing all these tests and find out that their body is like some insane amount of the carbon fibers in their body come from corn.
And they're like, what the fuck?
So they get their blood work done, all this stuff, and they find this out.
And then they start going and examining all the different food.
It's in the grocery store and how much of it contains corn, Corn proteins, corn syrup, corn byproducts.
And then they go deep, deep down into the rabbit hole.
The subsidized corn industry and how it all happened, how it all got started.
And you leave at the end of that movie like, what in the fuck?
We've been co-opted in so many different ways in this country by special interest groups and by people that have figured out how to generate and extract massive amounts of money from particular sectors.
greg fitzsimmons
That are not good for us.
joe rogan
This part of agriculture, corn.
greg fitzsimmons
Ethanol.
joe rogan
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
Try to figure out how to put it in your gas tank.
joe rogan
Exactly.
Let's do that.
You fucks.
greg fitzsimmons
Not good for your engine.
joe rogan
Ethanol's not good for your engine?
greg fitzsimmons
Ethanol's not good for your engine.
joe rogan
But alcohol is.
Like if they could figure out how to do alcohol engines.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Like that Rockefeller thing.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
What's wrong with ethanol?
What does it do to your engine?
greg fitzsimmons
I heard it causes some kind of backup over time.
It's not good.
unidentified
That might be some jack bullshit that the fucking oil industry tried to sell you.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, right, right.
joe rogan
You never know, right?
greg fitzsimmons
Do you know John D. Rockefeller's great-grandson now is heavily into developing 3D printer meat steaks that come out of a 3D printer?
unidentified
Whoa.
greg fitzsimmons
And it'll be using all, like, soy-type ingredients.
It'd be all, like, you know, in the printer.
It doesn't rot.
Like, dry ingredients.
And you will be able to—they can do it now.
They can make steak chips— Through a 3D printer that are edible.
Jesus Christ.
And they say it's just a matter of time until they can make actual steaks.
unidentified
Jesus.
joe rogan
I wonder how good that is for you.
Well, it'd be probably better than some kinds of meats, but...
greg fitzsimmons
But they say it's good for third world countries because they'll be able to, first of all, you won't have to have all that methane from all the downsides of having cattle.
unidentified
Right.
greg fitzsimmons
You can get rid of that and then also you can set these things up in third world country and feed people, fucking poor people, imagine them for steak, what you get them to do.
joe rogan
They churn out iPhones like a motherfucker.
Hungry?
Order steak from the lab.
Rockefeller Air investing firm taking...
greg fitzsimmons
Wait, scroll down.
There's a picture of a steak coming out of a printer.
It's hilarious.
No, there's not.
Wrong article.
joe rogan
These guys, do they just, the Rockefeller Airs, do they just get cash?
How does that work?
Do they just get money and they just start their own startup?
What do you think that feels like?
If you grow up like stupid rich, where you never have to worry about the future, and you're like, uh, maybe I'll make a startup.
greg fitzsimmons
That's what it should be.
That's the correct use of that money.
I mean, if you're going to get rid of the death tax, or let's call it really what it is, the estate tax, at least these people like the Kennedys are doing stuff and the Rockefellers are doing stuff where they're saying, without economic pressure, let me explore and do something a little on the fringes that might work, whether it's non-fossil energy or whatever.
So it's pretty cool.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's nice if you see someone who's given this unusual roll of the dice, some wonderful hand of cards.
Nice they use it in a totally egalitarian way in some beautiful way where they just decide to donate it or figure out a way to help or put money into something that's going to benefit people.
Right.
greg fitzsimmons
Start a foundation that's just, you know, trying to create peace, which sounds so erudite and unattainable, but to go like, no, I'm going to work on peace.
Just the concept of peace.
joe rogan
It's just rare.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's rare that someone just...
Looks at it and says, well, hey, I have this opportunity to do something really beneficial for the human race.
Let's take this $100 million that I was born with and put it to use.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, look at what Robert Kennedy's done for the environment.
I mean, he's responsible for getting all the PCBs out of the Hudson River and working on making safer nuclear power.
joe rogan
What do they do to get PCBs out of the river?
How the fuck do they clean the river?
greg fitzsimmons
They gotta dredge.
They gotta go in there and fucking clean it out.
Some people argue it's bad because it stirs it up.
What is in layers embedded in the bed of the river.
But they say, well, if a hurricane or tornado or whatever comes, it's going to bring it up in a much more destructive way.
So it's better to bring it up.
joe rogan
So they bring it up, and what are they doing when they bring it up?
They're cleaning it somehow?
greg fitzsimmons
I guess they, you know, filter it, dump it somewhere.
joe rogan
Huh.
greg fitzsimmons
But then he also just closed up.
There was the GM plant.
There was a bunch of plants on the Hudson River that were dumping raw sewage in, and he stopped all of those.
joe rogan
How crazy.
greg fitzsimmons
And now the Hudson River, you can swim in it.
joe rogan
What?
greg fitzsimmons
I grew up on the Hudson River.
We used to swim in it, and we were told not to.
We were fine.
But now they literally have little beaches set up on the Hudson River upstate.
joe rogan
What?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, even in the city.
You can take a fucking kayak out on the west side.
joe rogan
And you can swim in it?
greg fitzsimmons
You can swim in it.
joe rogan
That sounds weird.
unidentified
Fuck yeah.
joe rogan
What if it gets in your mouth?
unidentified
Then you die.
greg fitzsimmons
You gotta keep your mouth closed.
Keep your mouth closed, stupid.
joe rogan
You know they used to, bars used to pull lobsters out of the river?
That used to be bar food.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah?
joe rogan
It was like, it was thought to be a poor man's meal.
greg fitzsimmons
Well, in Ireland it was, yeah.
joe rogan
Even in America.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
In the early days of New York City, they used to just set out lobster traps and when someone would order a lobster, they would just go pull a trap out and grab one of the lobsters and cook it.
greg fitzsimmons
No shit.
joe rogan
And it was thought to be a poor food.
greg fitzsimmons
Poor people food.
During the famine in Ireland, they were exporting lobster.
What?
Because they wouldn't eat it.
They thought it was like a rat.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
unidentified
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
Fucking stupid Irish.
joe rogan
Eating potatoes.
greg fitzsimmons
So stupid.
Eating fucking potatoes and sending lobster.
Well, we don't have any butter anyway.
joe rogan
Maybe that's what it is.
They didn't know about butter.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Once you know about butter and lobster, if someone puts...
Hold on, before you ship those out, just try this.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You fucking idiots.
greg fitzsimmons
Put this bib on.
You gotta have the bib.
joe rogan
I saw on Instagram this guy cooked a coyote.
He cooked a coyote and barbecued it, barbecued it, and had barbecue sauce and brought it to work, pulled coyote, and apparently he said it was delicious and people were loving it.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah?
joe rogan
Yeah.
There's a lot of shit you can eat.
unidentified
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, I wouldn't think to eat a coyote.
I saw an episode of Meat Eater, Steve Rinella and Remy Warren.
They shot a coyote and cooked it over an open fire and ate it.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because they wanted to see what it tasted like.
greg fitzsimmons
There's some good shit if you go to this restaurant called Typhoon in Santa Monica, and they've got, you can eat scorpions and ants.
joe rogan
All shit that would die in a typhoon.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
Shit that you might find on the side of the beach.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, if you want to play out the post-apocalypse, come to Typhoon.
Tuesday night special, jellyfish.
joe rogan
Wow, scorpions, huh?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, scorpions.
joe rogan
Did you try it?
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, fuck yeah.
unidentified
It's great.
joe rogan
What does it taste like?
greg fitzsimmons
Just crunchy, you know, a little salty.
Nice.
joe rogan
Well, they must have added salt, right?
greg fitzsimmons
It's all good protein.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, they say that bug protein is really good for you.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
And in a lot of ways, they think that that's going to be the future of protein for the world.
Like, they have bug bars and are made out of, like, grasshoppers and things along those lines.
And it's very healthy.
Full amino acid profile.
And a lot of people who are maybe vegetarian or vegan and have a real problem with eating animals do not have a problem with eating insects.
They're like, well, we have a bug.
I have a friend who's vegan.
He'll fucking slap the shit out of a mosquito on him and kill it and not even think.
greg fitzsimmons
Right, right.
joe rogan
Drop it onto the ground.
Like, look at the Singapore-style scorpions.
Is that the menu at that place?
That's Typhoon's menu.
Taiwanese crickets, stir-fried raw garlic, chili pepper, and Asian basil, $11.
That one's great.
greg fitzsimmons
It's great.
We should eat there one night with the wives.
joe rogan
I'm down.
Let's do it.
Actually, my wife would fucking slap me if I asked her to eat a bug.
greg fitzsimmons
Well, they got normal shit, too.
They also have a pretty good sushi bar.
But yeah, I'll eat anything.
I mean, I've been down in Florida.
I've eaten alligator.
joe rogan
Alligator is really good for you.
greg fitzsimmons
Alligator's good, yeah.
joe rogan
The protein, apparently, in alligator, it's supposed to be insanely high in protein and very, very low in cholesterol.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's one of the lower things.
It's like right up there.
Elk and moose are apparently the lowest in cholesterol.
They're lower than chicken.
greg fitzsimmons
Uh-huh.
joe rogan
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
Tough to cook them, though, because they have so little fat.
unidentified
It's not hard.
greg fitzsimmons
You gotta really nail it.
joe rogan
It's not hard.
greg fitzsimmons
No?
joe rogan
Yeah, you just gotta learn.
It's just different.
It's different than...
I got some in the back.
You want some?
Want some alcohol?
greg fitzsimmons
I'll give it to you for tonight.
unidentified
Fuck yeah!
joe rogan
Yeah, take it home.
All right.
It's better, way better for you, higher in protein, and there's zero bullshit in it.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
No antibiotics, no hormones, no nothing, wild game.
And like I said, lower cholesterol than a chicken breast.
greg fitzsimmons
I was in South Africa and we ate at a game farm, a game park, but they have to thin out the herd of different animals.
And so there's a restaurant called Carnivore right in the park, and they come around with skewers and they ask you, do you want some giraffe?
And you go, sure, and they'll give you a couple cubes of giraffe.
It was like when you took me to that Brazilian restaurant in Vegas.
joe rogan
Churras, Korea.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, and they came over with the skewers and it was like that, but it was like elephant fucking, you know, different kinds of gazelles and shit.
Did you eat elephant?
I did eat elephant.
What does that taste like?
It was great.
It was a little gamey.
It had a little smell to it.
joe rogan
People right now are screaming.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Screaming.
greg fitzsimmons
You fucking piece of shit.
No, they needed to kill it.
These are all animals that were dying.
They never needed to kill elephants!
They should have saved them!
joe rogan
They should have saved Dumbo!
greg fitzsimmons
His family will always remember.
joe rogan
What about Yogi?
Don't eat the bear!
Don't eat Yogi Bear!
greg fitzsimmons
Watch Yogi eat his fucking child on the internet.
Jesus.
joe rogan
Bears, man.
Bears, people have a weird connection with bears.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
They get real upset if you kill a bear.
greg fitzsimmons
Stuff bears, you know?
The most vicious animal out there.
joe rogan
Oh, we have teddy bears.
greg fitzsimmons
And that's the thing we take to bed.
joe rogan
Well, it's almost like we're trying to make them less dangerous.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
We can make them cuddly.
Polar bears are perhaps the most vicious mammal on Earth.
They are fucking monsters.
This guy, Kevin Fitzgerald, he's a veterinarian.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, yeah, I know Kevin.
joe rogan
You know Kevin?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, in Denver.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And he, we worked together once in Denver, and he said that polar bears, like when you have them as babies, right out of the womb, they're like, and they're trying to bite you.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, no shit.
joe rogan
He goes, they're like the alien, you know, like the alien chestburster.
He goes, that's what they're like, right out of the womb.
And I was like, wow, that is nuts.
He goes, if they're hungry, they will try to fucking eat you.
And I'm like, oh my god.
greg fitzsimmons
Damn.
joe rogan
It's like people have this idea of them as being this like fluffy creature.
It's like most people live in cities and most people comment on animals and are animal rights activists and animal rights advocates.
These people that have these ideas about the beautiful nature that we live around.
Like they don't go out in it.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
When you go out in it, it becomes a different thing.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
And you realize like, wow, there's a strange like...
There's a constant conflict going on in this world.
I mean, there's very little harmony.
In fact, the harmony exists with beings eating beans.
That's when the harmony exists.
It's all things eating things and things looking out for things that are about to eat them.
I mean, there's a reason why deer perk up and they move their ears and their head side to side because something's coming.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Always.
There's always something coming and that's why they run so fast.
They're trying to get away from something eating them.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
They're not chasing anything.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Deer run fast because they don't want to get eaten.
Which is fucked.
greg fitzsimmons
I saw a rattlesnake eat a squirrel.
Oh, shit.
In Yosemite last summer.
joe rogan
You saw it get the squirrel?
greg fitzsimmons
No, I saw him.
He already had the squirrel, but I saw him take the squirrel inside of him, and you saw it move a little bit down his body.
And everybody got close to him because they figured, well, he just ate.
joe rogan
Right.
greg fitzsimmons
So he was a little more lethargic.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can do that.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, he crawled off.
It was bad.
I'd never seen a rattlesnake before.
Never mind, I've fucking eaten a squirrel.
joe rogan
I was running the hills with my dogs, and I ran over what I thought was a log, like a stick, like a large stick, and as I was in the air over it, I realized it was a rattlesnake the size of my forearm.
greg fitzsimmons
No shit!
joe rogan
Yeah, and I was like, oh fuck.
And I had to keep my dogs back once I realized that it was a rattlesnake.
Because my dogs have been bitten several times.
greg fitzsimmons
By rattlesnakes?
joe rogan
Yeah.
My dog Frank, he got bitten twice.
And my dog Lucy, she got bitten once.
And their face swells up.
It's bad, man.
It's bad.
greg fitzsimmons
But they'll go and attack the rattlesnake, even though they know they'll get bit?
joe rogan
Well, they'll bark and they get near it and they bark, bark, bark, bark, and then the snake just bites them in the face.
unidentified
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
Wow.
joe rogan
They don't know what it is.
They just know it's dangerous.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like something in their doggy brain is like, this ain't cool.
What the fuck is this thing?
And they bark at it.
Whereas like, they don't bark at squirrels.
If they see a squirrel, they chase after it and try to kill it.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
But if they see a rattlesnake, they get close.
And I don't know, I wasn't there when it actually went down.
I was there in the aftermath.
I saw the snake.
I pulled him away.
I looked at him.
I looked at his face.
And I'm like, what's going on?
I saw little holes.
I'm like, goddammit, he got bit.
unidentified
Shit.
joe rogan
So I had to take him in.
One time I took him to the- Would he have died if you hadn't taken him in?
Uh, probably.
Probably eventually.
Yeah, it takes a while, but they swell up like crazy.
Like the side of their face becomes like cartoonish where they got stung.
Especially a young rattlesnake.
Young rattlesnakes are the most dangerous because they don't know any better.
They empty out all their venom in one shot.
The old rattlesnakes just give you a little taste.
It's like, take that motherfucker!
But they keep some for the cell just in case they have to bite you again or bite something else an hour later.
Um...
But one time, Frank got bit, and I looked at him, and I killed a rattlesnake.
And then I looked at him, and I go...
greg fitzsimmons
How'd you kill it?
joe rogan
I think I used a rake.
I forgot what I killed it with.
I just killed it.
But then I looked at Frank, and people were like, why would you do that?
Because it's in my yard!
Sorry!
See that fence?
You get inside that, you're dead.
If you can kill me, you're dead.
You fucked up.
I kill you in my house.
I kill you in my yard.
greg fitzsimmons
If you're in my yard, you'll come in my house.
joe rogan
You're dead.
You're dead.
Coyotes, dead.
If I'm practicing archery in my yard and I see a coyote, yes, I'm shooting that thing.
greg fitzsimmons
Joe Rogan once killed a bat in my apartment for me.
joe rogan
That's right.
greg fitzsimmons
I did that.
With a tennis racket.
joe rogan
That's right.
greg fitzsimmons
Without even thinking about it, then sat down and watched TV five seconds later.
joe rogan
I ran after that thing.
unidentified
Yeah?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's disturbing to switch.
greg fitzsimmons
Wait, so then what happened with Frank?
joe rogan
Oh, anyway.
So I brought him to the vet, and the vet looks at him.
This is like after, like, the first time Frank and Lucy both got bit, and then this is like maybe a year later.
I wasn't sure if he got bit because I saw the rattlesnake and I saw him.
I killed the rattlesnake and then I'm like, come here, buddy.
Let me check your face out.
And I'm looking at him and I don't see any marks and I'm like, well, you seem all right, but fuck, I don't know.
Come on, let's go.
And I take him in the back of the truck and I take him down to the vet and the vet checks him out and he goes, I don't see any swelling.
Everything seems fine.
I'm like, all right.
And then I take him back home and his face starts swelling.
Like a delayed reaction.
I think maybe he got like a small dose.
Like it wasn't a lot, but He's like, it's hard to tell because his adrenaline is so fired up.
You know, his tongue was out.
And he was so excited to get in the car and go drive around.
He seemed normal.
But then an hour or so later, after I got him home, his face started swelling.
So I had to bring him back in.
You got to give him the antivenom.
It's fucking expensive.
It's thousands of dollars.
So if you're broke...
greg fitzsimmons
No shit.
joe rogan
It's no joke.
So if you're broke and your dog gets bit, it's a fucker, man.
greg fitzsimmons
You gotta suck it at yourself.
joe rogan
I can't.
That's a myth too.
The only way you can suck it out is if you get it right when it's happened.
Like if it bites you right there, you make a tourniquet, you gotta cut yourself too.
You can't be shy about it.
You gotta cut into where that area where that fucking snake is, squeeze it and suck it out.
And you're probably not gonna get it all.
You're gonna get some of it.
But have you ever seen what happens to a person when they get bit by a rattlesnake?
greg fitzsimmons
No.
joe rogan
Oh my god, we are so weak.
We're water bags.
We're just little bags of water.
We're just so weak.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, we're allergic to everything.
joe rogan
This guy put a website up that documents him getting bit by a rattlesnake, like after he got bit, him seeking treatment, the necropsy, what would you call it?
What is it called?
unidentified
Necrosis?
joe rogan
Necrosis, yeah.
Necrosis when, you know, the skin's dying, the tissue's dying, all around the wound.
And he had to get skin transplants and all this crazy shit, and it took a long time.
And he documented the entire procedure.
This is one guy that got bit.
greg fitzsimmons
Whoa!
joe rogan
Wow.
greg fitzsimmons
No shit!
joe rogan
Texas country star Kevin Fowler post-gnarly rattlesnake picture.
And this guy has, his hand looks like, I mean, it looks like he has a globe in his hand.
Like his hand is swollen and black.
So far, so far swollen past normal size.
greg fitzsimmons
Wait, scroll down.
Look at that guy's forearm.
A little further.
Look at that.
joe rogan
That's the one.
Go to that website.
Visit page.
Holy shit.
This is the very website where it documents this guy.
That's actually one photo that's taken from the website.
But there's a website where it shows...
This is the absolute one.
unidentified
Damn!
joe rogan
This guy got bitten and his skin all died.
His skin died and I believe it was a young kid too.
I don't think he was very old when this happened.
greg fitzsimmons
And they just put mesh over it.
joe rogan
Well, that mesh is so that his skin grows in place, and then they take the graft and they try to put it over that, but it's rough, man.
It's very, very fucking dangerous.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
You gotta write rattlesnake.
You can't just write.
But anyway, no bueno.
greg fitzsimmons
I was on that same trip to South Africa.
My daughter was probably about three, and then we went down to the...
In Cape Town, there's the Cape of Good Hope.
Is that the little thing that sticks out there?
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
I haven't been.
greg fitzsimmons
And you can hike through this field and get to the, it is like the southwestern tip of Europe, of Africa.
And so we go down there and we get out of the car and there's all these baboons and they're fucking vicious and they're aggressive.
And the park ranger was like, yeah, you may want to keep her in your arms the whole time.
And I was like, why?
And they're like, well, if the snakes don't get her, the baboon's just going to grab her.
unidentified
Jesus Christ.
greg fitzsimmons
Imagine that shit!
Imagine watching your daughter get taken by a fucking baboon.
joe rogan
And eaten.
greg fitzsimmons
Or taken by a fucking giant boa.
joe rogan
Chimps take them too.
Chimps take babies.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Fuck.
greg fitzsimmons
That would be close to...
Up there with your worst nightmare.
Top three worst nightmares.
joe rogan
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
Baboon taking your child as they scream.
joe rogan
Yeah, baboon might even be worse than a lion.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Both would be horrific, but there's something about a primate doing it.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Baboons are so weird.
It's like a monkey fucked a dog.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, it's some weird sort of half monkey, half dog face thing.
greg fitzsimmons
Just so aggressive.
joe rogan
So aggressive.
greg fitzsimmons
And their hands are just, long arms and strong hands come right at you.
joe rogan
Creepy fucks.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, shit.
joe rogan
You ever seen a documentary they did with, they tamed dogs, like baboons actually tamed dogs, and they taught these dogs how to be like watchdogs?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah?
joe rogan
Yeah, they took these dogs in and fed them, and they had these tribes of baboons, and they had figured out- No, the baboons did it.
The baboons kept these dogs and fed them, and then the dogs stayed around them, and when anything would come near, the dogs would bark, and the baboons would come out.
greg fitzsimmons
No shit.
joe rogan
Yeah.
They're smart as fuck, dude.
greg fitzsimmons
Damn.
joe rogan
They're creepy, and their world is harsh, so their actions don't seem like intelligent actions.
They don't have community and...
You know, it's not like they have a language and rampant use of tools or anything like that, but they're very intelligent.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
In some sort of a weird way.
They figure out problems.
greg fitzsimmons
And then we stick them in steel cages for life.
joe rogan
There was an article that I tweeted today, see if you can see that, that they believe that chimpanzees and monkeys have just started using stone tools over the last 4,000 years, and that chimps are entering the stone age.
They are evolving.
Chimps and monkeys have entered the Stone Age.
greg fitzsimmons
In the wild.
joe rogan
Yes, in the wild.
They're actually evolving.
And that this could eventually lead to chimps becoming something very different than what they are now.
That what we're seeing now, you know, a million years from now, chimps might not be chimps anymore.
greg fitzsimmons
They could become Neanderthals.
joe rogan
They could become us.
We've only been us for a couple hundred thousand years.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, I'm listening to this book right now on tape about, you know, like prehistoric man from like the first socialization.
joe rogan
Oh, what's it called?
greg fitzsimmons
Sapiens.
Who wrote that?
who wrote sapiens you've all Noah Harari Whoa.
joe rogan
What a name, Yuval Harari.
greg fitzsimmons
A brief history of humankind.
Good stuff.
Yeah, it's talking about how, you know, Neanderthal man and...
What was the one?
And Homo Sapiens, which is what came after Neanderthal.
People think there was like a timeline, because when you look at timelines, it lists one, then there's a line segment, and then the next one starts.
But there was a time when they were both on the Earth at the same time, and they were fighting, and Neanderthal was fucking way bigger and more powerful.
joe rogan
Way stronger, and bigger brains.
greg fitzsimmons
And bigger, right, right.
joe rogan
Which is weird.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
And they don't even know why.
They don't know if the brain was bigger to control the body, because they don't have one to study.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's all this speculation of how smart they were.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
And it was a battle, and the Sapiens won because they had techniques for hunting working as a group and surrounding the other ones, and they used tools.
I guess, I don't know if it was rocks or whatever it is that they used that the Neanderthals were not using.
joe rogan
I think it's they just divided them and fucked them all.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
And then they became us.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, did they?
joe rogan
I don't know.
That's my theory.
greg fitzsimmons
They were on top.
joe rogan
I wonder, man.
I mean, they know that there was some interbreeding.
Or at least they believe there's some interbreeding.
And they recently found a bone of an ancient Neanderthal that had human DNA in it.
And so they're like, well, what the fuck?
See if you can find that, because I think I tweeted that recently, too.
But just, I might not have tweeted it.
greg fitzsimmons
But human, you mean sapien?
joe rogan
Yes, homo sapien DNA. I mean, because I guess Neanderthal are human, a type of human, is that what they are?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, I guess there's homo erectus, homo whatever, and then homo sapien is what's considered modern man.
joe rogan
Yeah, they don't necessarily...
Here it is.
Humans made it with Neanderthals much earlier and more frequently than thought.
This is really recently.
This is February 17th.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
People will fuck a sheep.
Will fuck anything.
greg fitzsimmons
I can't believe I never fucked an animal.
You know?
I was so horny when I was a teenager.
I think because we didn't have pets.
It's the only thing that stopped me.
joe rogan
If you had a dog, do you think you would have fucked it?
greg fitzsimmons
I would have fucked my dog, definitely.
joe rogan
Okay.
greg fitzsimmons
Depending on the kind of dog it was.
joe rogan
Well, also, we grew up without rampant access to pornography like these kids have today.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, if a kid today has an iPhone, you got all the porn in the world.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, at your fingertips, bam, you can watch people fuck.
greg fitzsimmons
All I had was a sheepdog, some Vaseline.
joe rogan
It was hard back then.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, I can, uh, and you know the final nude episode, nude edition of Playboy's coming out.
Pam Anderson will be the last nude model in Playboy history.
joe rogan
Great.
No one wants to see naked anymore.
Perfect.
greg fitzsimmons
What a way to go out.
joe rogan
Go out with a fizzle.
greg fitzsimmons
Ease us out.
joe rogan
Does she look good?
Even if she doesn't look good, what you're looking at is not really that person anymore.
You're looking at Photoshop elements.
greg fitzsimmons
Well, you mean physically that she's not her own parts.
And then they'll Photoshop it on top of that.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're not looking at the real image.
You're looking at some distorted...
Have you ever seen what they do?
They've shown the real image versus what they do.
Here she is right there.
greg fitzsimmons
Ugh, she was a beauty in her day.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Time is a motherfucker, son.
greg fitzsimmons
I'm leaving this off of YouTube, too.
joe rogan
Please do.
greg fitzsimmons
Thank you.
That sex tape in her prime was so amazing.
She was hot.
She was so hot.
Wait, these aren't the most recent ones.
joe rogan
Allegedly.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, really?
unidentified
This was from December.
joe rogan
Yeah, see, it's all like weird black and white, but you know they like stretched out her ass and got rid of all the weird lines.
greg fitzsimmons
There's three guys hiding behind her pulling skin right there.
She got midgets.
joe rogan
Fucking high-powered fans blowing her sag up.
She's right next to the Star of Heft.
I don't know, man.
greg fitzsimmons
If she was smart, she would have made herself look at least a little bit old in these instead of she looks 19. Well, it's like everything's blurry and hazy.
joe rogan
It's like you're looking at her through the fog, like a spotlight in a foggy room.
greg fitzsimmons
Any shots of her feet?
joe rogan
Just the shoes.
greg fitzsimmons
Feet don't age.
joe rogan
Yes, they do.
Boy, do they.
Okay, come on.
unidentified
She doesn't look that good.
greg fitzsimmons
Look at the hemorrhoids coming out of her ass.
joe rogan
But that is not what she looks like.
She just doesn't.
I mean, that's just not accurate.
greg fitzsimmons
That's so stupid.
Look at the belly.
She's had kids, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, she's had kids, but she's also 50. I mean, she's not a Cindy Crawford 50 either.
greg fitzsimmons
Cindy Crawford looks great.
I bowled next to her recently.
joe rogan
You were bowling?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, we did this thing.
We help out with these retarded kids.
joe rogan
I don't think you're supposed to say that.
greg fitzsimmons
Mentally, whatever.
Intellectually disabled children.
It's this group that me and my son work with.
And they do a bowling thing to raise money for them.
And you bowl with the mentally challenged kids.
And she's really active with it.
And she's out there with her kids.
Her daughter's a model now.
Her son's a model.
And she looked fucking great.
unidentified
She's like 51. She looked 30. Yeah, amazing.
joe rogan
Once they hit a good 30, too.
Not like some 30s.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
You know?
I knew a girl when she was 19, and then I saw her again when she was 27, and apparently she had a meth problem.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh.
joe rogan
And when I saw her when she was 27, she looked like she had been to hell and back, and she looked easily 50. Yeah.
And she wasn't even 30 yet.
And I was like, wow, like meth.
Something about stimulants, man.
That...
Redlining the system.
Boy, you pay for that.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
You pay for that one.
greg fitzsimmons
Well, it dries you out.
joe rogan
She looked terrible.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Terrifying, too.
Her skin was hanging off of her bones.
Her muscle tissue had all gone away.
It had all atrophied.
It's like what the plumpness of youth had all been replaced by this dead air.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Her skin was looking for all the meat that used to be there to hold it in place.
It was just sagging.
Oh, my God.
greg fitzsimmons
And you know she chain smoked the whole time.
joe rogan
She was definitely chain smoking.
She was a smoker.
But it was sad.
unidentified
And she was so apologetic about the way she looked.
joe rogan
It was really disturbing.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, I just saw this girl that I hadn't seen in a while, and she gave me a hug, and she goes, I'm sorry, I got really fat.
I'm like, you're apologizing to me?
It's like, that is so weird.
joe rogan
Might be the same person who did the same thing to me.
We'll talk about it off air.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
No, I don't think so.
This girl was never on drugs.
She just put on weight.
joe rogan
No, no, a different girl.
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
She just did that recently to me.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, okay.
It was at the comedy store.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, we'll talk.
We'll talk about it.
We got to end this thing anyway.
I got to get the fuck out of here.
Tomorrow, Greg Fitzsimmons and I will be performing at the Improv in motherfucking Hollywood.
Are you still doing your show on Sirius or is it only a podcast now?
greg fitzsimmons
Still do the show Monday nights on Sirius.
It's the Greg Fitzsimmons Show on Howard 101. Then the podcast is Fitzdog Radio.
I just had Ari Shafir just came on.
Duncan Trussell just came on.
Judd Apatow just came on.
Those will all be up in the next week or so.
joe rogan
Excellent.
greg fitzsimmons
And then Denver, Colorado.
Can I plug that?
joe rogan
Comedy Works.
greg fitzsimmons
Comedy Works in Denver coming up on the 24th through the 26th.
And then I am in...
Sorry.
joe rogan
One of my all-time favorite clubs ever.
greg fitzsimmons
Sacramento Punchline, April 15th through 18th.
joe rogan
Another one of my all-time favorite clubs.
greg fitzsimmons
San Francisco Punchline, April 21th through 23th.
And then other dates, comics in Connecticut, all at Fitzdog.com.
joe rogan
The comics in Canada can suck my dick, but the other clubs are great.
Alright, ladies and gentlemen.
That's it for today!
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