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March 15, 2016 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #774 - Brendan Schaub & Bryan Callen
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brendan schaub
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bryan callen
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joe rogan
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unidentified
Was she hot though?
bryan callen
Like a bag of water.
unidentified
Yes!
joe rogan
Boys!
bryan callen
Yeah!
joe rogan
First of all, that is a beautiful t-shirt you're wearing there, Mr. Sharp.
unidentified
Thank you, sir.
joe rogan
It's got the newest version of the Master Kim shirt.
brendan schaub
Not out yet.
bryan callen
Accentuates his tits.
joe rogan
That's a fucking dope tiger, man.
It's like sort of a half-dragon-y tiger thing going on.
brendan schaub
Very Asian, with an Asian T-Fat K. Yeah, man.
joe rogan
Who's doing your artwork?
brendan schaub
I got a couple of guys.
This one I collabed with a guy, his name's on Instagram, Painted Demons.
And so the two guys I used, they're both from Tap Out, back in the Tap Out, Tap Out days.
Justin and this guy painted demons.
joe rogan
Jettisoned.
brendan schaub
Floating out into the sun.
joe rogan
The world of t-shirts.
brendan schaub
Fuck, man.
I love it.
joe rogan
The tap out thing is so strange.
It's like, there's a few companies like that, right?
Like Von Dutch.
Remember Von Dutch?
bryan callen
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
And then Von Dutch became Ed Hardy.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
unidentified
Oh, is that what happened?
joe rogan
Not really.
No, but you know what I mean.
The people that would have worn Van Dutch if they had been five years younger were now wearing Ed Hardy.
bryan callen
They call him Ed Retardy.
I don't know why.
unidentified
Well, Ed Hardy was a legit tattoo artist.
brendan schaub
Super legit.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, he's like a famous tattoo.
I think he's dead.
Is he dead?
bryan callen
Well, the kind of guys that wear, like, they're usually...
brendan schaub
Easy, I used to wear some Ed Hardy.
bryan callen
But they're usually super muscular guys.
Shave their forearms.
They got the skin like a hot dog, to use your term.
brendan schaub
You're talking Jersey Shore.
joe rogan
Here's the deal.
I mean, we can demonize those guys all day long, and we do, and it's funny.
But they're just trying to get laid.
The only reason why...
We wouldn't wear those things if we were all going camping together.
bryan callen
Exactly.
brendan schaub
You don't wear rhinestones because you're looking to fuck your body.
bryan callen
Dude, they've done studies that when a man wears jewelry...
joe rogan
Don Ed Hardy, born in 1945. He's still alive?
brendan schaub
I bet your sweet ass he's alive.
joe rogan
Wow.
bryan callen
He looks a lot younger there.
joe rogan
No, that's not him.
bryan callen
I'm kidding, I'm kidding.
joe rogan
That's a different guy with a shitty shirt on.
brendan schaub
He's known for those sailor tattoos.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
brendan schaub
The original sailor tattoos.
joe rogan
Yeah, he was like one of the great Americana tattoo artists.
He would make those really cool, like his stuff was not realistic looking at all.
It was like cartoonish.
There he is.
bryan callen
Look at him.
joe rogan
Powerful motherfucker.
bryan callen
He looks awesome.
brendan schaub
He made bank.
bryan callen
He looks like a closet pervert.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's just weird that a tattoo artist, like I knew him from the tattoo magazines.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because before I ever got a tattoo, I was like really into tattoos.
I'd buy the magazines and check out all the really cool artworks, like Paul Booth.
You ever see that guy?
brendan schaub
Yeah, man.
joe rogan
From down in New Jersey?
unidentified
Yep.
joe rogan
Goddamn that guy.
That guy, he won't let you tell him what to draw.
bryan callen
Really?
joe rogan
Yep.
bryan callen
Really?
You just gotta trust him?
joe rogan
Yep.
bryan callen
Damn!
joe rogan
He's got a style, and his style is like demonic, white eyeballs, black and gray, really cool, super detailed, amazing tattoos.
Look at this fucking guy.
Look what he looks like, Paul Booth.
bryan callen
He doesn't look like he's gonna take no for an answer.
I'm using your body as an experiment.
brendan schaub
Damn, look at that poster in the back.
Fighting terrorism since 1490. That's American Indians.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's Native American.
I had a t-shirt like that.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, I stopped wearing it.
Sick.
I felt like, what is this message I'm doing?
bryan callen
It's awesome.
I might sleeve out just because I want to be 49 and sleeved.
joe rogan
I'm 48 and sleeved.
bryan callen
Yeah, but somehow it fits you.
joe rogan
I like tattoos.
If you like tattoos, it fits you.
I love the artwork.
brendan schaub
I love the art that goes into it, man.
I love it.
joe rogan
And as I get older, I like girls that are tattooed up.
bryan callen
Me too.
joe rogan
I didn't used to like them.
bryan callen
I've always loved them.
joe rogan
I used to be like, oh, you crazy damaged bitch.
bryan callen
Nah.
joe rogan
But then I'm like, wait a minute.
I'm a crazy damaged bitch too.
brendan schaub
Yeah, man.
Guys are crazy damaged too.
bryan callen
The only website I ever bought, like, you know, like subscribed to where I used a credit card to get access is Suicide Girls.
That's how much they turn me on.
But that's just pictures, right?
joe rogan
They don't even...
bryan callen
No, just pictures.
brendan schaub
You're just jacking off the pictures?
bryan callen
I didn't jack off.
I just would look at them and be like, that was my girlfriend.
brendan schaub
No, you jacked off for sure.
Otherwise, why would you get it?
bryan callen
Well, I'm a chronic masturbator, but I have YouTube or, you know, fucking RedTube and all that stuff for that.
joe rogan
Well, you know what?
There's an attraction to a girl that covers her back and her arms with tattoos for some reason because this girl doesn't give a fuck.
brendan schaub
She's a badass.
joe rogan
Well, she knows that this is permanent and she's like, yeah, whatever.
Draw on me.
bryan callen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Pull up some pictures of that Paul Booth stuff because some of his stuff is insane.
He did that dude who...
unidentified
Fucking wow.
joe rogan
Yeah, look at that.
Like that kind of shit.
brendan schaub
Hey man, you're not putting that on my body though.
I'm gonna need to see the artwork before you put it on me.
joe rogan
It's really good though.
No, but he's so good, dude.
unidentified
Jesus.
joe rogan
People wait for years.
Hold on, back up to that one with the tentacles.
unidentified
Damn, that shit is sick.
joe rogan
Look how insane that is.
Go full screen with that please.
brendan schaub
That's fucking dope.
You know what?
joe rogan
That's insane.
bryan callen
See, I would get that.
unidentified
God.
brendan schaub
Do it, Callan.
bryan callen
But you'd be like, why is Brian doing that?
joe rogan
Well, why isn't he?
See, that's your problem.
Let me tell you what your problem is.
bryan callen
What?
joe rogan
This is your problem.
You worry about what people think.
Well, that shit ain't good for you.
brendan schaub
I don't know.
bryan callen
I don't know that that's true.
joe rogan
Yeah, you do.
Definitely.
That's why you don't have a nice car, and that's why you wear weird shoes that zip up on the sides.
bryan callen
Getting a Tesla.
I'm getting a Tesla.
brendan schaub
He is getting a Tesla.
He ordered it.
bryan callen
I ordered it.
joe rogan
They fucking drive themselves.
You know that, right?
bryan callen
I got that.
I know.
joe rogan
You know how crazy it is?
bryan callen
I got the autopilot.
joe rogan
Talk to Tom Papa about it.
bryan callen
Yeah, well, I'm getting one.
I'm picking it up on March 31st.
joe rogan
My buddy Matt, Matt Lichtenberg, he's got one, and he said he gets on the highway, you press a button twice, I guess, it drives itself, and he just starts texting people.
brendan schaub
Not for me, man.
It's just not for me.
bryan callen
I said to the guy, he explained it to me at the Tesla dealership, and I said, I wouldn't use that, and he said, oh, yes, you will.
Like, he was from the future.
brendan schaub
Especially you and how much traffic you're in, it makes sense.
joe rogan
Well, listen man, when you have a nice car, it makes driving a fun experience.
bryan callen
Right.
joe rogan
Whereas if you have a...
Look, there's nothing wrong with just having a utilitarian car.
You know, Brock Lesnar used to drive around in like...
It was like a Chevy Citation or something like that.
It was like some weird little red fucking compact car.
That guy used to get in that thing.
And he's...
What?
All of 300 pounds.
brendan schaub
He's enormous.
joe rogan
He makes me, when I stand next to him, we're not the same species.
It's a totally different kind of human being.
brendan schaub
He'll make you rethink your career.
I've never seen him, I was like, maybe this isn't for me.
joe rogan
I've shaken some people's hands before, like Shaq.
He shook Shaq's hands.
But there's two guys, Shane Carwin and Lesnar.
Both those guys.
You shake their hand and you go, okay...
We're not the same.
brendan schaub
Try getting hit with one of those fucking meat shovels.
bryan callen
I can't imagine that you did.
joe rogan
Meat shovels.
I can't imagine that you did.
bryan callen
I think with cars, for me, because I didn't grow up with any cars, like my parents were never into cars.
So if you don't know the difference, like sometimes you got to know the difference.
joe rogan
Oh, like grow up with it?
bryan callen
Yeah, I didn't grow up with it.
I just didn't grow up with...
I don't think I've ever driven a fast car.
I drove a Porsche once in traffic, and I couldn't open it up, so I didn't...
I just don't...
I didn't grow up appreciating what the car was.
brendan schaub
Listen, he tried asking to drive my car, like, fuck no, son.
joe rogan
You should take his car up to Little Tujunga.
Do you drive a stick?
bryan callen
I do, yeah.
I learned on a stick.
joe rogan
Listen, I'll let you drive the GT3. It'll change your life.
brendan schaub
He'd be like crazy eyes on fucking Mr. Deeds.
joe rogan
I'm sure I'd love it.
brendan schaub
He would ruin your car.
joe rogan
No, he drives good.
He's a good driver.
But you would understand.
bryan callen
Maybe the Tesla's the beginning of my...
joe rogan
Oh, the Tesla's really fast.
brendan schaub
Super fast.
One of the fastest cars in the world, especially if you download that app.
joe rogan
Stupid, stupid fast.
bryan callen
Well, he told me that they can...
Like, if I want it faster, they can upgrade it.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's some insane mode.
brendan schaub
I don't think you need that, though.
bryan callen
Ludicrous.
unidentified
Ludicrous mode.
brendan schaub
I don't think you need that, though.
bryan callen
2.8 seconds.
Zero to 60 in 2.8 seconds.
joe rogan
That's so crazy for a big four-door sedan.
brendan schaub
That's insane.
joe rogan
For a four-door sedan to hit 60 in less than three seconds and with no sound.
bryan callen
Right.
joe rogan
It's like...
There's no rumble.
There's no explosion.
unidentified
It's like...
bryan callen
There are two things I wish I want to start wearing, but it's too late for me.
It's not too late.
I want that tattoo.
unidentified
Get it.
We can do it.
joe rogan
Well, he won't do it.
He might do it, but he might do something better.
You just got to go to him.
bryan callen
Well, I also want to wear...
brendan schaub
Dude, I can't do that.
unidentified
I can't do that.
Just trust him.
joe rogan
Bro, I don't fucking like snakes.
brendan schaub
Sorry, bro.
That's what you get.
That's how it works?
joe rogan
Maybe you could say, look, my mom was killed by a snake.
Could you lay off the snakes?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
And he would just do like bats or some shit.
brendan schaub
Or is he like, now you're going to get what you're going to get.
It's a snake Wednesday.
joe rogan
I mean, he's a fucking artist, essentially.
I mean, not essentially, 100%.
And he looks at his art and he says, you know what, man?
People commission me to do pieces and this is what I want to do.
So I'm just going to say, I'm only going to take that work.
brendan schaub
I get it.
joe rogan
Maybe I'm wrong, though.
I mean, I believe that's how he does it.
I've heard that before.
I appreciate that.
brendan schaub
I don't think there's any bigger artists than in Southern Cal for tattoo artists.
It's the scene, man.
For sure.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
It's a great spot.
brendan schaub
If not the best in the world.
I mean, it is fucking killers here.
Tattoos are a form of- Shamrock, you got Cartoon, you got in OC, you got some killers.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, there's a lot of- Kat Von D. All over the country right now, there's a resurgence in tattooing.
Like, tattooing over the last few decades has become like a really respected art form.
Instead of just like, a lot of them were like weirdo fringe type artists who just were really into it, but there's a stigma attached to it.
You know, there's always a stigma attached to being tattooed up.
Yeah.
You know, and now it's not.
Like, if you have tattoos, like, Aaron Del of Adobe did this, and this is like 50 hours of work.
unidentified
True.
joe rogan
You know, and he planned it all out as one sleeve.
He did this one, too.
He does both of my arms.
brendan schaub
Really good color.
joe rogan
I think a lot of it is...
But he's a friend, too.
So, like, I go down there, we hang...
He's cool as fuck.
He's an amazing artist.
brendan schaub
You get a close bond with your tattoo artist.
Mine's Freddy Negretti, who's done all this, from Shamrock Social Club in Hollywood there.
He grew up rough, man.
He started tattooing in prison, so he's a rough dude.
But the first hour with him, I was like, God, this is the worst.
He wasn't talking to me.
He was kind of mean.
I was like, fuck, it's going to be a long time.
But then he opened up, and he's my boy now, man.
joe rogan
That's funny.
He was mean.
Just a straight vato man.
brendan schaub
Just gangster.
Yeah, he's great, man.
joe rogan
Maybe he was worried that you were like a dumb jock type character.
brendan schaub
100%, yeah.
joe rogan
You're very deceiving in that way.
unidentified
Yeah, he is.
joe rogan
A lot of people have the wrong idea of you.
And also, people get mad at you from podcasts.
Ladies and gentlemen, I know it's fun to hate, and I've done it before.
But you gotta understand, we play up shit.
When you ramp things up, you say ridiculous shit, he knows what he's doing.
He's doing it because it's ridiculous to say.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I want the reaction.
bryan callen
He's a natural showman.
joe rogan
It's fun.
brendan schaub
It's so much fun.
bryan callen
Comedy is about exaggeration sometimes.
joe rogan
A lot of it.
Yes.
A lot of it is.
I mean, that's some of the funnest shit.
bryan callen
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know?
bryan callen
But I think tattoos for me is, I think, uh, one, I didn't, I don't know that I express tattooing.
I don't know that there's anything I, I can, I can never make up a mind, first of all, what I'd want on my body.
unidentified
It's timidity.
brendan schaub
You're making it too big of a deal.
Like, I don't give a, it's cool, it's art.
joe rogan
What looks so good about your arm by itself?
bryan callen
Well, the muscle.
Look at the distriation and the foot separation.
joe rogan
Even if you have a nice arm.
If you have a nice arm.
If you have a big muscle, your arms fit.
I mean, you're fit.
You're a fit guy.
But it's his skin.
Okay, you go to a great artist and you have art on your body.
bryan callen
What would I get?
joe rogan
It's permanent art.
brendan schaub
Forever.
joe rogan
You get whatever you want.
Why don't you guys both get fighter and the kid tattoos?
brendan schaub
Boom, son.
You know, once we get to 10 million downloads, he has to get a tattoo.
That was the deal.
We made that bet.
unidentified
That's right.
joe rogan
Wow.
Lucky not on my show.
bryan callen
Me and a Tesla with a Tesla.
joe rogan
What are you gonna get?
bryan callen
I don't fucking know.
brendan schaub
Hey, man.
bryan callen
I'm gonna go all out.
I'm gonna go balls out and just get Medusa on my back.
joe rogan
Medusa?
Yeah.
bryan callen
You know who Medusa is?
joe rogan
Like a big one?
Of course I know who Medusa is.
brendan schaub
He's a goddamn American.
bryan callen
Sorry.
brendan schaub
Fuck yeah.
joe rogan
You know who King Kong is?
Bro, you ever heard of King Kong?
brendan schaub
Are you familiar with Bigfoot?
unidentified
You need to know about gorillas, bro.
bryan callen
Sorry, everybody.
joe rogan
You ever see Lassie, bro?
You never saw Lassie?
You know Flipper's not a fish, right?
bryan callen
It'd be funny if I got Lassie.
joe rogan
Do you know who Medusa is?
That's a big smiley Lassie.
bryan callen
Who's that shitty dog?
That's Lassie.
I got Lassie on my back.
joe rogan
Doesn't Cerrone have Lassie on his back?
bryan callen
He should.
brendan schaub
No, no, he has a pit bull.
It was his pit bull when he was a kid.
Oh, my bad.
It's like, no, I don't think so, man.
joe rogan
There's some shitty dogs.
It's a good tattoo of his dog.
That's his dog from when he was a kid?
brendan schaub
Yeah, it passed away.
bryan callen
I'd like to get something silly.
Maybe a cow.
joe rogan
Ari Shafir got Keep On Truckin' tattooed on his body.
brendan schaub
It's brilliant.
joe rogan
On his hip.
brendan schaub
Dude, I love that shit.
I love that.
bryan callen
I love that.
What else can I get?
brendan schaub
Dude, there's some great tattoos in the UFC and there's some terrible tattoos in the UFC. Yeah, let's be nice.
bryan callen
Crystalia, let's be nice.
brendan schaub
I'm not calling anyone out.
Hey, I have some shitty tattoos myself, man.
joe rogan
Conor McGregor can slow down a little bit.
brendan schaub
The one on the stomach is a little too real for me.
joe rogan
It needs to look like a tattoo.
Well, the tiger on the stomach and then the McGregor above it.
And he gave up his abs.
brendan schaub
That's what bothers me.
How dare you?
People kill themselves for that abs.
joe rogan
How dare you?
bryan callen
I could have done without the crown being that up his neck.
brendan schaub
No, that's gangster.
joe rogan
See, I like that.
I would love a neck tattoo.
I like the straight blast gym gorilla.
brendan schaub
Me too.
joe rogan
And then the crown on top of it.
I think that's bad.
unidentified
Me too.
brendan schaub
That's my favorite tattoo.
bryan callen
I like the writing up his back.
I like that.
brendan schaub
Well, that's weird.
bryan callen
And I like symmetry.
unidentified
How much do you like it?
joe rogan
Like, do suicide girls like it?
bryan callen
Yeah, like, do I crouch and jerk off?
joe rogan
Like, would you pay money for a website that his photos?
brendan schaub
Does your wife have any tats?
bryan callen
No.
unidentified
No.
bryan callen
I'm going to get her a tattoo that says, mine.
unidentified
Ooh.
joe rogan
Anybody could use that one, though.
Yeah, that's true.
brendan schaub
You put Callens.
unidentified
Now, mine.
joe rogan
Now, mine.
bryan callen
Mine.
joe rogan
Women don't like that.
They don't like to be owned.
bryan callen
Yeah, at my wedding, I said...
brendan schaub
Depends which one.
Ones with tattoos do.
bryan callen
At my wedding, I made a speech and thanked my parents and everybody, and I stopped, and I went, Amanda, you are...
And I was waiting, and they were bracing.
I was going to say something really sweet.
I went, Amanda, you are my property now.
And that's what this is about, isn't it, folks?
And everybody started laughing.
joe rogan
Did you get a dowry?
bryan callen
I did not get a dowry.
joe rogan
That's how it used to be.
You married your daughter off.
Daughters are so useless.
You gotta give stuff.
bryan callen
Hey, you know who cries at weddings?
This guy.
joe rogan
Aw, sweetie.
bryan callen
I could not.
I cried.
I don't know what it is about weddings.
joe rogan
Divorce.
You know divorce is coming.
brendan schaub
Yeah, because you know it's not going to end well.
bryan callen
At my sister's wedding, I was in the wedding and I was...
brendan schaub
Well, it's your sister.
joe rogan
But that's the reason why they used to give away a dowry was because the woman was thought of as being less valuable than the man, right?
Because times were tough and people were dying in war and famine and fucking sword fights and shit.
And so if you had daughters, the way you would marry them off to a good person, you'd have to give them something.
You'd give the dude something to marry your daughter.
bryan callen
It was also a way of joining families.
joe rogan
But that was the way!
brendan schaub
You'd give like, oh, here's my daughter and here's a bag full of gold coins.
joe rogan
A ton of cash.
But that was the way.
That was like super common.
brendan schaub
Dude, let's bring this shit back.
joe rogan
But it didn't go the other way.
That's what's happening.
What's fascinating about modern culture is the divorce is horrific for men.
Marriage and divorce can often be horrific for men financially.
And just from the limited amount of exchanges I've had with friends that have been divorced, it's fucking horrific.
The amount of money they lose is insane.
brendan schaub
Especially in California.
joe rogan
And the amount of money they have to give off.
Because, you know, we know a few people that have done well and made good money.
And then, you know, it doesn't go well when it comes to the divorce.
And you find out the sums of money they have to pay out.
brendan schaub
Well, you have to maintain their lifestyle when you guys were together.
joe rogan
Exactly.
brendan schaub
And if you're a fighter, I have a fighter friend who went through a divorce.
And at the time when he was with her, you know, he's a badass making bank.
joe rogan
Right.
brendan schaub
Well, that career is over, you know.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
It's tough, man.
joe rogan
It is tough.
It's just crazy.
brendan schaub
For athletes especially.
joe rogan
But it's weird how it's switched around.
Like it used to be that the man would get a lot out of getting married to the woman.
So it'd be like worth something.
It'd be like a big thing.
Like they had to give up a dowry.
And now it becomes the woman, if she decides, you know, there's a lot of power in that.
Especially if you marry like a rich guy.
You know, you marry some Donald Trump character.
Even if he's got a lockdown fucking prenup.
brendan schaub
You're still set, son.
joe rogan
You're getting cash.
brendan schaub
Especially if you have a kid.
joe rogan
Yeah, he'll give you a few mil just to get the fuck away from this.
If Donald Trump writes you a check for two million bucks, he makes that in a month.
brendan schaub
That ain't no thing to him.
joe rogan
Probably not even a month.
He probably makes it in a week.
When you've got four billion dollars, that's four thousand million dollars.
That's insane.
bryan callen
It's kind of crazy.
Apparently he doesn't have that much money, but yeah.
But that's what he's worth.
There are people that do.
Well, he says he's worth 10, but they say he's probably worth 4. I've read estimates that he, if you actually look at, if you take out the debt and everything and how much he puts into his business, if you actually looked at what he has money-wise, it's closer to $200 million.
joe rogan
Broke-ass bitch.
brendan schaub
Fucking scrub.
joe rogan
200 million.
brendan schaub
That's people hating on him.
bryan callen
That was according to John Oliver and some other stuff I read.
brendan schaub
Haters.
joe rogan
How do they know?
How do they totally really know?
bryan callen
It's a tough thing to figure out, but you can apparently look at his assets.
joe rogan
He's not releasing his numbers.
bryan callen
And then you can look at how much it costs.
You can estimate what it would cost to run those based on employees and insurance and all that.
And then they have to, a lot of times, I think a lot of companies, I mean, certainly if they're public, but I don't know private, but there are Statements.
There are public tax statements.
brendan schaub
Fucking poor Trump, man.
Struggle is real.
You say only 200 mil?
bryan callen
Yeah.
Fucking A. But I don't know.
joe rogan
Yeah, I just think we don't know, so we probably should be throwing numbers around.
Either way, he's rich as fuck.
You know what's hilarious, man?
I watched a little bit of the Democrat debate.
I usually don't like debates.
But Bernie Sanders sent it home.
Sent it home on Hillary Clinton.
Dude, there's some shit that she just couldn't say nothing about.
When they were talking about the pharmaceutical industries and the banking industry, the banking industry in particular, he was talking about That's what it was.
He was talking about the speeches that she gives for hundreds of thousands of dollars.
And then he's talking about how many...
Why can't we get the transcripts from these speeches?
What an amazing speech it must have been to be worth $250,000 or whatever the fuck it was.
brendan schaub
Damn, son.
joe rogan
And Hillary was nervous as fuck.
She threw a cough drop in her mouth.
She's sweating and like half fake smiling.
She can't say anything.
He's like, you can read the transcripts of all the times I've performed and did speeches in front of the banking industry because there are none!
brendan schaub
Damn, son.
bryan callen
This is a guy who took his vacation with his wife in the Soviet Union.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's an interesting guy.
He's a very interesting guy.
brendan schaub
There's a site I tweeted out last night.
It's called isidewith.com.
I'm not too into politics.
We go to this, and they have all the major issues, and you click multiple choice, what you think is major, and it goes through all of them.
And then it says who you most likely should vote for.
It gives you a percentage.
It's pretty dope.
joe rogan
Well, see, my feeling about Hillary is she seems like business as usual.
bryan callen
Yeah, I agree.
joe rogan
Whether she would be good or not, she's 100% business as usual.
unidentified
She's a politician, yeah.
joe rogan
And I think that is the last shit this country needs right now, is this same system.
brendan schaub
So you're trying to bring in Trump?
joe rogan
I would bring in Bernie or Trump before I'd bring in Hillary.
bryan callen
Although, I'd bring in Bernie.
joe rogan
I'd bring in Bernie.
Because I think that he would shake shit up culturally.
bryan callen
I don't know if that's the best thing, though.
joe rogan
See, but here's the thing.
He can't do that.
He can't really pass all that.
You need Congress.
There's a lot of steps.
And the idea of what he's trying to tax, socialism, it's kind of crazy.
It defies human nature.
Because human nature, when you give people a way to not have to work for things, they do.
And there's some people that fall upon hard times.
There's some people that get a bad break, a bum steer in life.
There's a bunch of people that are doing poorly that it's not their fault.
But there's also a bunch of people that are just fucking lazy.
brendan schaub
That's probably the majority, wouldn't you say?
joe rogan
I don't know.
I don't know what the numbers are.
I've never examined them.
bryan callen
The bottom line is you don't want to penalize people that produce.
joe rogan
Yes, exactly.
bryan callen
And you don't want to tax people that produce who also create wealth.
You don't want to tax them 75% the way France under Hollande is trying to do and has done.
It just doesn't work out because people that produce will stop producing.
If I have to work 75% of my day for someone else, for the greater good...
brendan schaub
Hell no.
bryan callen
We've seen how that works in...
Just pick up a history book.
It doesn't work that well.
brendan schaub
How old is Bernie?
joe rogan
He's old as fuck.
brendan schaub
His ass ain't gonna make it very long.
unidentified
He's officially old as fuck.
bryan callen
I think the bigger question should always be, rather than Bernie, or just ask yourself to what percentage.
What percentage are you willing to give your power and your money?
Like, is it 50%?
brendan schaub
Dude, I'm telling you, you go to this site, for me, I have no fucking investment in this site, but you go to this site and it literally breaks it down.
It's a lot of stuff I didn't know about.
It breaks down very simple, and you're just multiple choice, and it shows, boom, this is who believes in the way you do, and this is who you should vote for.
joe rogan
So who believes in the way you do?
brendan schaub
Fuck, man.
The one I would never think.
Hillary Clinton.
joe rogan
See, but here's the thing.
bryan callen
She's a centrist.
joe rogan
You can't tell what she really believes in.
bryan callen
That's right.
joe rogan
What's the way she would vote?
Did you say what she said about Nancy Reagan and Ronald Reagan?
Mm-mm.
Fucking liberals are abandoning her now.
Because she was trying to say that Ronald Reagan and Nancy Reagan opened up the conversation about AIDS during the 80s.
That is total bullshit.
Not only is it total bullshit, Silence is Death is like a campaign because they weren't talking about it.
They wouldn't talk about AIDS for fucking years.
Yeah, it's trouble.
For like two years.
bryan callen
I remember it very well.
joe rogan
And that wasn't a good administration just because Nancy died.
Yeah, she died and I bet she was a nice lady.
You know, she was really in astrology and she was married to a president.
That's it.
We're done here.
You don't have to lie about them opening up some sort of a fucking dialogue with this country about AIDS. That's just not what they did.
bryan callen
Hillary's biggest liability is that people don't trust her.
unidentified
She's just not likable.
bryan callen
Based on her history.
joe rogan
That was another thing in the debate.
They said 37%.
bryan callen
Yeah.
joe rogan
That is insanely low.
bryan callen
She's behaved in a corrupt way.
joe rogan
Trust her.
Only 37% trust her.
unidentified
Women don't trust her.
Women trust her less.
joe rogan
That's so crazy.
She needs a stylist.
bryan callen
But here's the biggest thing.
brendan schaub
All of them do.
bryan callen
If she is more like Obama, if you look at the past six years, the economy right now is not doing terribly.
And this is a guy who believes probably I'm a little bit more to the right, at least fiscally, than someone like Obama.
But I have to say that, you know, I was preaching about how, you know, under Obama, if you look at his policies, the government's going to grow.
The government, because of a lot of factors, it's not just Obama, but If you look at a lot of measures for how government has grown, it's kind of stayed exactly flatlined in the past six years.
It hasn't grown.
A lot of that's because we don't have as big a tax base and things like that.
But there are a lot of factors that go into it.
But you know what?
In six years, it's not like the economy is a disaster.
By a lot of measures, the economy is doing really well.
So that's hard for conservatives to argue with.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
But let me just...
What's the word?
Blind allegiance?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Devil's advocate.
Blind allegiance popped into my head.
I'm like, why is that word?
bryan callen
I don't know.
brendan schaub
Awesome word, though.
joe rogan
That's the wrong one.
But if you look at it from a Republican point of view, one thing that could be easily argued is there's a common cycle of recession and financial gain.
It happens.
bryan callen
Yeah.
joe rogan
And this is exactly what happens after a downfall.
So the downfall of our economy in 2008, I don't know shit about finance, but I've read a bunch of stuff that people do know shit about, and these cycles are reoccurring cycles.
As long as the republic stays up, and it's still up and running, it goes down, it crashes, people readjust, some people find their way, some people lose their way, some people jump off buildings, and then it builds back up again.
And that's what's going on right now.
So that's one of the things that they argued about Clinton's era.
They were saying, well, you could say that Bill Clinton was responsible for all that, but all the signs seemed to indicate that the cycle was moving in that direction anyway.
brendan schaub
It was just that trend no matter who was there.
bryan callen
The president doesn't have...
joe rogan
I'm talking out of my ass for sure, and I don't know it exactly.
brendan schaub
No, no, but...
If Trump wins, is there going to be chaos?
joe rogan
Black people are already freaking the fuck out that he's this close.
People are rushing the stage.
bryan callen
The numbers don't add up for Trump.
He doesn't have women, he doesn't have minorities.
joe rogan
Brian, I don't think you're right.
bryan callen
You'll see.
joe rogan
But look, you can't say you'll see because you don't really know.
bryan callen
No, I do know.
Trump will get the nomination.
joe rogan
Okay, but all I'm saying is you don't really know, and the problem is it's real possible.
It's real possible.
And just the idea that we got this far.
It's insane.
bryan callen
A lot of Republicans would tell you that the Republicans, once again, because they're not unified, have committed political suicide.
The pundits that I've listened to will basically look at these hard numbers and say, you know, the people that you see supporting Trump, yeah, Trump has won, but for the most part, the popular vote isn't there for him at the end of the day.
It's going to go to Hillary.
brendan schaub
We'll see, son.
joe rogan
I don't think so.
bryan callen
We'll see.
joe rogan
Yeah, we will see.
I think here's the problem.
He hasn't even started to attack her yet.
And he's going to attack on Benghazi.
bryan callen
She could be indicted.
That's the other thing.
joe rogan
On two different cases, man.
brendan schaub
So what happens if she's indicted?
bryan callen
It's a big issue.
joe rogan
Do you know about the guy who was the computer analyst that put together her email server?
Fucking tell him, Joe.
unidentified
He's got immunity.
joe rogan
He just got immunity against prosecution, apparently.
bryan callen
So he can...
joe rogan
I know.
So little about this, I shouldn't be able to say it.
unidentified
I love this.
brendan schaub
So then he's gonna squeal like a little piggy.
joe rogan
If he squeals like a little piggy, you got real problems.
But the idea of giving him immunity with the real...
I know I read that somewhere.
Make sure that it's correct, though.
brendan schaub
Dude, she should just give him like 300 mil to go away.
joe rogan
She can't.
She doesn't have that kind of money.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
She makes good money, but I'm sure she's...
She spends it like a motherfucker.
brendan schaub
Did you ever see the payouts per year from everyone?
joe rogan
They get insane amounts of money.
brendan schaub
Not really.
Just her and Trump.
joe rogan
Her speaking money is off the charts.
What does it say?
Scroll down, please.
Justice Department grants immunity to staffer who set up Clinton email server.
Yes, it's true.
So what that means is, if they did that, that means that they're thinking about a case.
And they're probably planning a case.
And if this guy gave up immunity, that means he's got some serious fucking information to get a bigger fish.
Who's the bigger fish?
Hillary Clinton.
brendan schaub
I just don't like that.
joe rogan
I think it's just crazy because the choices are so poor.
brendan schaub
That's terrible.
Well, because the smart people in America are saying, fuck that job.
joe rogan
I don't mind Bernie Sanders.
I'm telling you, I would almost be willing to give up more money.
brendan schaub
He's too old.
joe rogan
Here's the problem that I have with the giving up more money, though, is that you're giving up more money to the government.
And I don't trust the government.
That's all.
If I could give up money...
Here's the thing.
If you could have mandated charity for really wealthy people where you could give to...
brendan schaub
That makes sense.
joe rogan
I like to give to something like Justin Renz, Fight for the Forgotten.
That's a no-brainer.
I give to that one because I know exactly where the money's going.
That's a beautiful one.
bryan callen
Exactly.
joe rogan
But if you could get a bunch of good ones, like a good...
Yeah.
bryan callen
The problem is so much of that money goes to running the machine that's supposed to dole out the money.
joe rogan
It's huge.
Recruiting Red Cross, by the way.
If you guys look online, there's a few websites that detail what percentage of your dollar actually goes to the charity.
bryan callen
It's crazy.
brendan schaub
Really?
bryan callen
Listen, at one point, at one point, the United Way, at one point, I remember they had a special on it, one cent of every dollar was actually going to the charity.
The 99 cents was going to running the actual company.
joe rogan
Not only that, but like high-salaried CEOs, like the whole deal, it becomes a corporation.
bryan callen
Look at the Wounded Warrior Project.
Do you see that?
brendan schaub
No, what?
I was just rocking their hat the other day.
bryan callen
That was a huge controversy because the two guys running it were making a million dollars a year and they were spending on lavish vacations and lavish conferences and stuff.
joe rogan
Is that true?
They were making a million dollars a year?
bryan callen
Yeah, both of them.
joe rogan
You want to talk about the wrong people to fuck over like that?
unidentified
Yeah.
bryan callen
But to be fair to those guys, but to be fair to the people running the Wounded Warrior Project, human beings, if you're working for a very big company and you make,
I think they made over $300 million in donations in one year, they had a huge endowment, It's when you're working all day, and I'm sure these guys are good people who are working probably 12 hours a day, you're going to put a first-class ticket.
It might be a red-eye.
I've got to sleep.
I'm doing all this work.
I'm going to spend $500 as opposed to $300.
And it just adds up.
And what happens is, if you're doing a lot of work and you're really good at it, they might say, hey, you're worth it.
We're going to give you a million dollars because a board votes that in.
So what I'm saying is that when you have that much money...
Corruption is going to happen.
joe rogan
Before you give them a free pass, we should probably know how they got to that number.
bryan callen
I agree.
All I'm saying is anytime you have a lot of money, it's going to be spent and there's not enough accountability.
Human beings are going to behave in that way.
It's anonymous.
You're getting more money.
We're all doing a good job here.
We deserve something.
joe rogan
The biggest illusion is that people with money are happier.
It might be the biggest illusion that exists in the world today.
bryan callen
Yes.
joe rogan
Because everybody really wants to be happy, but we really want to figure out how to get happy.
And the one thing that we can't figure out how to do is pay the bills.
So we're like, fuck, if I could just pay my bills, I'd be happy.
Like that is like one of the prevailing illusions.
brendan schaub
Well, there's a certain point where you make enough money where the bills are taken care of, which you're going to be happy and not stressed out about, but then you move on.
Yes, it's going to help, but it's not the answer to everything.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's not the answer to everything.
unidentified
Not at all, man.
joe rogan
It certainly makes you happier to not have to pay your bills, but how many people do we know that are super successful, multi-millionaires, out of their fucking mind, miserable?
brendan schaub
The richest people I know are the most miserable.
unidentified
Okay.
bryan callen
Dude, easily.
I did a little inventory on the times that I think about, that bring a smile to my face, the times that I remember being the happiest.
joe rogan
Gay stuff?
bryan callen
It's almost always when I'm behind a dumpster with a strong guy, very dark with a cowboy hat on.
joe rogan
Hairy guys or shaved?
bryan callen
No, black.
Black is night.
Black and very tall.
joe rogan
Black hairy guys are probably the scariest.
bryan callen
Oh, it's even better.
brendan schaub
I don't think I've ever seen a black hairy guy.
bryan callen
Well, you haven't hung out with me.
joe rogan
Yeah, I've seen, like, their chest hair is more of, like, curly.
brendan schaub
It's like taco meat.
bryan callen
Hey, man.
joe rogan
It's like taco meat.
brendan schaub
Excuse me?
Is that racist?
joe rogan
No, because it's a Mexican food.
It's okay.
bryan callen
Go to blackandhairy.com.
joe rogan
But if you said chicken meat, that would be a problem.
brendan schaub
Now you're in trouble.
joe rogan
That's a problem.
You can't say chicken, even though chicken's delicious.
brendan schaub
Super delicious.
joe rogan
Can you say Thai chicken?
brendan schaub
It's Thai chicken.
joe rogan
Can you say black people might like Thai chicken or will you get in trouble?
brendan schaub
I don't know.
bryan callen
I would change the subject right now.
brendan schaub
As soon as you toss watermelon there, we're all fucked.
joe rogan
Oh, you didn't say watermelon.
bryan callen
Hey man, what did you say about changing the cup?
brendan schaub
I love watermelon.
joe rogan
Listen, that's a delicious fruit.
You shouldn't bring it up.
It's really dangerous.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It is dangerous.
Delicious, amazing food.
bryan callen
Back to me and black guys.
brendan schaub
I've never seen a hairy black guy.
bryan callen
Back to being happy.
joe rogan
I've definitely seen hairy black guys before.
Yeah, but it's less common.
Well, not like Russian dudes, like that dude that's entering Abu Dhabi.
Do you know that guy?
Is he in Eddie Bravo's?
The Eddie Bravo Open?
Is that the new EBR, the one that's in April?
Is that who that crazy giant fucking Russian dude is?
brendan schaub
Those Russians grow some hair.
Orlowski has to get his shit faded.
His shoulders, it was a nice blend.
I remember when I was fighting him at the Wayans, I was like, oh shit, I like the shade you got on the shoulders.
It was like a one to two guard on his shoulders.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Just like a fade.
That's so funny.
He's hairy.
Yeah, he's a hairy fuck.
He was really hairy when he was young, too, before he took care of it.
Do you know who's the hairiest motherfucker in all of MMA? Gonzaga?
Dave Herman.
You ever see Dave Herman when Dave Herman grew that shit out?
brendan schaub
Oh, his beard was nuts.
joe rogan
No, I'm talking about his whole body.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Dude, dude, Dave Herman is a fucking Sasquatch.
By the way, he's in trouble right now, man.
brendan schaub
I was gonna say, is he still alive?
That fucking dude's doing nuts.
He's nuts.
joe rogan
There's a video that they released of him getting fucked up by cops, man.
brendan schaub
Aw, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, it was like one of those things where the cop told him to get back in the car.
He's like, why do I have to get back in the car?
I told you to get back.
It's one of those things where there's an unnecessary altercation between a person and the cop.
brendan schaub
Then egos come in.
joe rogan
Exactly.
brendan schaub
They start fucking him up.
joe rogan
And he's a giant.
brendan schaub
He's very tall.
Dave Herman's gigantic.
Dude, I was in the back with him in a corner.
Literally, maybe hit mitts for two minutes, and then he's playing a Game Boy, like old-school Tetris Game Boy.
It was like two years ago.
They go, Dave, you're up.
He goes, now?
They go, yeah.
Puts it down, just rolls out there.
joe rogan
And fights.
unidentified
Gonzaga?
joe rogan
Is that what you fuck Gonzaga?
brendan schaub
I think so, man.
joe rogan
He got KO'd in one round.
unidentified
Whoa!
brendan schaub
Oh, shit!
joe rogan
That's what he looks like.
bryan callen
He's got a good body, though.
brendan schaub
He's a good-looking dude.
joe rogan
Oh, he's shredded.
brendan schaub
He's got a set of tits on him.
bryan callen
He's got some tits.
joe rogan
He was a talented fuck, too, man.
He just, for whatever reason...
unidentified
He was big.
brendan schaub
He was never disciplined.
joe rogan
Yeah, he didn't totally put it together.
brendan schaub
We had that same trainer, the same striking coach, and he was saying, like, he'd be like, dude, you gotta come in and train.
joe rogan
How hairy that motherfucker is.
unidentified
Seriously.
brendan schaub
Such a beast, man.
joe rogan
So, yeah.
bryan callen
My dad makes that guy look like a girl.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
Weird dad stuff comes up again.
brendan schaub
That guy would slap your dad's face so fucking hard.
bryan callen
I'm just kind of quiet after I talk about my dad.
joe rogan
He'd probably smash your dad.
I hate to say it.
bryan callen
No, you don't know.
unidentified
You don't know, bro.
joe rogan
Most likely.
bryan callen
You don't know.
brendan schaub
They've heard so much talent though, man.
Remember before you got the UFC, he was like 20 and 1, just smashing bitches in Japan.
joe rogan
He beat some good names, too.
brendan schaub
Really good names, man.
joe rogan
Who did he beat?
brendan schaub
Oh man, the Dave Herman days.
Once he did get to the UFC, he had that crazy bout with the Abu Dhabi champ.
Remember that really big guy?
Remember the huge dude?
joe rogan
Not Fabiano Shermer.
brendan schaub
No.
joe rogan
Who was it?
Really big Abu Dhabi.
brendan schaub
Yeah, and he's from the Netherlands.
Huge.
joe rogan
Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
Fuck.
brendan schaub
Damn it.
I was supposed to fight him, too.
It's the only fight I've ever turned down.
joe rogan
I remember that, dude.
unidentified
Why'd he turn down?
joe rogan
What the hell is his name?
brendan schaub
Because he was a big enough name.
joe rogan
Didn't that guy beat Fabrizio Verdum in a jiu-jitsu match?
brendan schaub
Yes, in jiu-jitsu.
Romero is huge.
joe rogan
Yeah, pull up Dave Herman's...
brendan schaub
Him and Dave had a fight of the night.
unidentified
He was a serious fucking...
joe rogan
He had a fight of the night.
Serious...
John Olive Inamo.
unidentified
Yes!
joe rogan
I remembered it before I saw it.
Bam.
Yeah, John Olive Inamo is a serious fucking jujitsu phenom, but for whatever reason, it didn't really pan out in MMA for him.
brendan schaub
He was fucking huge, and he was also a lot older by the time he got there.
joe rogan
Click on John Olive Inamo's...
Yeah, and it was right about the time they were testing for real.
He lost to Mike Russo.
He lost to Dave Herman.
He beat James Thompson.
When I saw him, though, he was 30. Because when I saw him, he was in 2003 in Brazil.
So I guess he was in his 20s at the time.
brendan schaub
He was a beast on Jiu-Jitsu.
joe rogan
He was wrecking people.
Well, it was also confusing for everybody because he came out of nowhere.
Because this guy was a European guy.
And all of a sudden, he's beating Brazilians.
He's beating a lot of top guys.
He was, like, right around the time when Gunnar Nelson was wrecking people, too.
Everybody found out about Gunnar.
brendan schaub
That's the only fight I've ever turned down in my UFC career, ever.
It was after I lost to Noguera.
I wanted another big fight, and, like, months went by, and they offered me him.
I knew him from jiu-jitsu, but I had no idea about him from MMA. I was like, get the fuck out of here.
And then Joseph was like, oh, yeah?
Cool, here's Ben Rothwell.
All right, let's do that.
joe rogan
Wow.
Advisors.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
They're worth something.
brendan schaub
My manager's like, hey, man, yeah, let's do that.
unidentified
Whew.
brendan schaub
Ben and Rothwell.
joe rogan
You should call that guy up in the middle of the night.
Hey, man.
Remember that Rothwell fight that you let me take?
brendan schaub
Hey, bro.
Thanks for that, man.
bryan callen
Give me some time to adjust.
joe rogan
I know, right?
brendan schaub
That's not the game, my man.
joe rogan
So what kind of tattoo are you talking about when you hit 10 million?
brendan schaub
Just go and get that panther down your neck.
joe rogan
You should definitely get something on your neck.
Maybe like a kiss.
Maybe like a lips, like a lip kiss.
brendan schaub
Oh, that'd be sick.
joe rogan
Like a realistic one.
brendan schaub
Get your wife to kiss you.
unidentified
I like that.
bryan callen
I like that.
I like that tentacles.
joe rogan
Yeah, now you're talking nonsense.
brendan schaub
Yeah, you don't have time to get that.
joe rogan
That's going to be hours.
brendan schaub
That's 40, 50 hours.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's many days.
Yeah.
That's five or six days.
And you have to take time, like that.
brendan schaub
Like Kenyon Martin?
joe rogan
You get your wife to kiss you on the neck.
bryan callen
100% no to that, of course.
brendan schaub
Why?
bryan callen
How dare you?
joe rogan
How about if you get one right above your beanbag?
bryan callen
Oh, my beanbag.
My fucking beanbag.
joe rogan
Right above it.
bryan callen
I hold my dick up while they get, I want it, right above my beanbag, I'm going to hold my dick up, and you just tattoo another set of balls.
unidentified
People do get their dicks, they do get their dicks tattooed.
joe rogan
Yes, they do.
I've been thinking about doing it.
brendan schaub
No, fuck off.
joe rogan
I want to make it sparkly.
bryan callen
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
It doesn't sparkle enough.
If you were going to get your dick tattooed, what would you do?
brendan schaub
Elephant ears.
bryan callen
Barnacles.
Barnacles or warts.
brendan schaub
Elephant ears.
joe rogan
I think you mean make it black.
unidentified
That's what you mean, right?
bryan callen
Of course I do.
joe rogan
That's what you mean.
bryan callen
I'd sleeve it out in dark ink.
joe rogan
Yeah.
If you could possibly be.
Has any guy ever done that?
Because I know guys get their entire forearms black.
Have you ever seen that?
White guys will do that.
It's really weird.
It's like they have one color.
It's a one color tattoo.
And I always wondered if there's a cover-up, like they maybe had some shitty tattoos.
brendan schaub
I always knew it as a cover-up.
Like it was a real bad tattoo, like maybe a girl or something, so then they just black it all out because you can't cover it up.
joe rogan
There was a famous dude who had that in a band.
What band was that?
Rage Against the Machine?
Yes, that's right.
That dude, his whole arms was like all black.
brendan schaub
Well, a lot of times, don't like recovering addicts get like the black band and they do how many years and then just go all black?
joe rogan
Go all the way up to your ankles.
Yeah, do that shit.
bryan callen
I want something on my back, like right at the top of my back.
joe rogan
Chakras.
You should have your chakras.
bryan callen
Yes.
Aw, chakras.
joe rogan
Yeah, look at this dude.
bryan callen
And I want something over my root chakra.
brendan schaub
See, that looks badass.
joe rogan
That's very odd.
brendan schaub
Take forever.
bryan callen
He's in shape, too.
Kid's in shape.
Who is that guy?
joe rogan
He's from Rage.
brendan schaub
Dude, that looks pretty sweet.
joe rogan
What's his name, Jamie?
Tim C. Tim C. He doesn't have a name.
bryan callen
That's a badass tattoo, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, I like those.
What are those things?
That's from like some Japanese symbol.
brendan schaub
Talking about the tadpoles in the middle?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Is that cum?
Is that all cum?
Probably.
Cyclone.
It's called cum.
bryan callen
I would get that.
joe rogan
Cum in a tornado.
bryan callen
I'd have to shave my chest and my arms, but I'd do it.
joe rogan
That's what happens when you cum into a garbage disposal and you hit the button.
unidentified
Oh, fuck.
joe rogan
It's like a symbol of it.
bryan callen
Hey, man.
brendan schaub
Dude, he looks sweet.
I'm not mad at that at all.
That might be the best one I've seen, though.
They all don't look like that, though.
joe rogan
He didn't go too deep.
He went like a half sleeve down to the bottom of his bicep.
bryan callen
It's pretty cool.
unidentified
I like that.
brendan schaub
It's like he's always wearing armor.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
bryan callen
Maybe I'll get two six-shooters on my hips, you guys.
brendan schaub
Don't do that.
unidentified
Why?
joe rogan
Maybe we'll just get one tucked in your lower back, pointing towards your asshole.
unidentified
Oh, that'd be sick.
bryan callen
How about just an arrow?
Fun starts here.
joe rogan
Who are these people that get guns?
A lot of fighters do.
bryan callen
Porn stars, porn dudes.
joe rogan
Yeah, pointing down towards their dick.
brendan schaub
Dude, I'll tell you who has the best tattoos in the game as far as girls.
Well, excuse me, sir, your cheeks are tatted.
joe rogan
This man needs to hit a gym occasionally.
bryan callen
Yeah, I don't like his body.
brendan schaub
Can't have the dad bod and get all those tattoos.
bryan callen
Yeah, if you're going to work on a tattoo, your body's going to be sleeved out like that.
joe rogan
That's not even a dad bod.
That's a good luck, getting a woman to fuck you so you can become a dad bod.
bryan callen
Yeah, it's a vegan body.
joe rogan
How dare you.
Sorry, everybody.
brendan schaub
How dare you.
joe rogan
How dare you start it.
bryan callen
Now I'm going to get a bunch of pictures of vegans who are shredded.
joe rogan
They're going to be very angry at you.
brendan schaub
Dude, you know the girl who has the sexiest tats to me?
Christy Mack.
joe rogan
She's got some good ones.
bryan callen
Can I see?
unidentified
She's hot as fuck.
brendan schaub
That bitch is so bad.
joe rogan
She was in here with War Machine before War Machine beat the fuck out of her.
brendan schaub
Before he tried to kill her?
bryan callen
I listened to some of that podcast.
joe rogan
She came here with him.
She hung out.
She took a nap on the couch out there.
brendan schaub
She dropped dead gorgeous in person too.
joe rogan
She's very pretty.
She's tiny, man.
She's a tiny girl.
You hear all the shit that he did to her and it's horrific if it was just a chick.
brendan schaub
He's in prison for life, right?
joe rogan
He's gone.
He's gone.
But when you see her in real life, she's so tiny.
You can't imagine.
brendan schaub
Pretty in person though, huh?
joe rogan
She's beautiful.
You just can't imagine that a guy...
I like her with no hair.
bryan callen
Look at that picture.
Me too.
joe rogan
See that?
I like that for the same reason why I like...
Look at that picture below where Effie beat the fuck out of her in the hospital.
That's not what you're oh yes-ing.
brendan schaub
Hell no.
joe rogan
I'm talking about the hot one.
You gotta clarify though.
People are listening to this.
brendan schaub
Oh, sorry bro.
That's the yes one.
The beat up one I'm not trying to see.
unidentified
Fuck.
joe rogan
He kicked the shit out of her legs.
brendan schaub
He tried killing her man.
She got away.
joe rogan
Yeah, he was going to get a knife.
She escaped.
brendan schaub
She's the hottest chick in the game for sure.
joe rogan
Well, she's definitely one of them.
brendan schaub
Porno games?
joe rogan
She's very pretty.
But my point is, like, I can't imagine.
She's like a little kid.
She weighs like 100 pounds.
brendan schaub
Really?
She's that small?
joe rogan
She's tiny, man.
She's fucking tiny.
I mean, she might weigh 110. Damn, so she's super tiny.
brendan schaub
So War Machine, I mean, really fucked her up.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, I'm not that good at numbers, but she ain't a big girl.
She's like 5'1", maybe.
She's tiny.
unidentified
Jesus.
joe rogan
You know, the idea that he beat the fuck out of her like that, it's just so crazy.
bryan callen
I listened to some of that podcast and he sounded...
Like, there's something about guys who talk real fast like that, you know, he's like, yeah, so for me, you know, it's like a...
joe rogan
Well, he's got a nerve, you gotta realize.
bryan callen
Was he nervous?
joe rogan
Oh, I'm sure.
You know, he's on a podcast, he knows a million people are gonna hear it.
unidentified
Right.
bryan callen
I never think of that.
I never think of that.
But for some people, it's a big deal.
brendan schaub
He's also a guy who did a lot of stuff.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's done a lot of steroids, for sure.
brendan schaub
A lot of stuff.
joe rogan
A lot of stuff.
brendan schaub
Had a lot of head trauma.
joe rogan
Yeah, a lot of head trauma.
brendan schaub
The guy has some serious demons.
bryan callen
I've noticed with fighters, some fighters, that there is that Adderall-like...
Energy.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
bryan callen
Guys have been fighting for a long time.
joe rogan
That's from head trauma.
bryan callen
Yeah.
That's what it feels like.
joe rogan
Yeah, you got erratic behavior.
bryan callen
Breathing is a little bit erratic sometimes.
joe rogan
Also, they can't keep it together very long.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
They can't keep it together if something's boring.
They can't keep it together if something gets annoying to them.
They don't have a good way of staying calm.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
brendan schaub
A lot of them, too.
A lot of them.
I'm one of them.
But a lot of them, on our podcast or personal conversations, they'll jump all over the board.
They will never finish a story or come back around.
They'll jump all over.
joe rogan
Well, when War Machine, he watched his dad die, right?
Wasn't that...
brendan schaub
He had some super dark demons, man.
Some crazy shit happened.
joe rogan
He got arrested when he was really fucking young.
Cops beat the fuck out of him when he was like a teenager for nothing.
He tells a story and I tend to believe him, man.
I think that he's definitely made some fucking horrible choices in life, no doubt.
But I also think he got fucked.
Life fucked him.
brendan schaub
He got a rough...
joe rogan
Life fucked him early.
brendan schaub
Hand of cards.
joe rogan
Yep.
Fucked him and he was around a bunch of other people that also got fucked.
And it's real hard to discern what direction to go through in your life.
I mean, there's been a gang of people like that have gone in and out through the UFC that just don't know.
They've been surrounded with shitheads and psychos and fucking criminals their whole life.
They don't know peace and normalcy.
brendan schaub
That's all they know.
You still can't try and kill a bitch, though.
So she's that pretty.
joe rogan
No, what he did was horrific.
bryan callen
Of course.
joe rogan
Horrific.
bryan callen
But that's also a breakdown of an ability to cope at all.
It sounds like he had bouts of madness.
You know, well, he came home.
joe rogan
He came over to her house.
He wasn't supposed to be there.
brendan schaub
They were separated, though.
joe rogan
Yeah, he wasn't supposed to be there.
He came over to her house and she was with a guy.
brendan schaub
She's a porn star.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, she's hot, too.
And guys want to fuck her.
If he's not fucking her, someone's going to want to fuck her.
brendan schaub
Yeah, you're like adding sliding them DMs.
Because you come over, you're going to be real sad because I'm going to whoop your ass in front of the girl, too.
bryan callen
Yeah, I don't think you would have been running.
That would have been a bad situation.
Hell no!
brendan schaub
Unless he had a knife.
I'm like, get her.
joe rogan
Well, he probably would have had a knife, too.
Apparently, it was just a total surprise.
He didn't expect the guy to be there.
brendan schaub
And he just saw red and freaked the fuck out.
joe rogan
Well, he's fucking nuts.
brendan schaub
He's also fucking crazy.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's nuts.
He's always been nuts.
But he's always been super cool and super friendly to me.
Me, too.
I mean, I knew he had gotten into crazy fights with a bunch of porn stars.
He beat the fuck out of someone, a bunch of people, like three or four people at some porn party.
Jesus.
Some dude, but dude's mouth off.
They say the wrong shit.
They fuck up.
brendan schaub
Yeah, there's no repercussions.
They didn't come across a guy like that.
He's going to fuck your world up.
Anyways, can't be my friend, though.
joe rogan
No, no.
brendan schaub
Can't be my friend.
joe rogan
Well, he can't be anybody's friend.
brendan schaub
But he can't be my friend.
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
He can't be anybody's friend.
He can't be anybody's friend.
He's in jail forever.
brendan schaub
He's going to make friends in there, though.
joe rogan
The point being, there's certain guys that will just always fuck up, it seems.
brendan schaub
But they also...
It's self-sabotage, right?
Like, they get this shitty hand of cards in life, and they play this victim game.
It's like, I don't deserve any success.
So there's always kind of this...
bryan callen
You and I were talking about this.
I called Joe because I wanted to lend somebody money, and I just want to...
Sometimes, like, I think I have a lot of guilt because...
If you think about how some people grow up, they just never even had a chance.
It was just the math fell in my favor.
It didn't fall in there.
I had parents that loved me.
I had stability.
Some people had the exact opposite.
And then we were talking, and I was like, this guy I wanted to help, and it's just a disaster.
And I'm like, I want to give him money.
I want to help him.
But you get a sense that this guy I was talking about, he's always going to be that way.
brendan schaub
Whether you give him 100 grand or 5 grand.
bryan callen
He's always going to be broke.
He's always going to be fucked.
joe rogan
I've loaned people money.
bryan callen
I know.
joe rogan
You know how many people have paid me back?
bryan callen
None.
unidentified
None.
bryan callen
Me too.
brendan schaub
The thing is, did you tell me this?
Did you tell me this?
I've been lending people money.
If you lend someone money, just give it to them.
joe rogan
My father said that.
I've given it to people that are good friends.
brendan schaub
I think both of you gave me that advice.
joe rogan
I've had good friends that have been in a financial crunch and I gave them money.
brendan schaub
If it's a legit friend and I know it's a family member, I know it's gonna help them out, I work hard for a reason, so just take it.
joe rogan
It takes time to figure that out, though.
I didn't have any money most of my life, and then all of a sudden when I started having money and someone needed money, I looked at them as how I used to be.
I'm like, well, if I help this guy out, he'll get back on his feet and then he'll take care of it.
But none of them did.
Not only that, they start avoiding you, which is really weird.
Hey, Mike, you were supposed to pay me after three months.
It's now six months.
brendan schaub
We have resentment.
bryan callen
It's the old saying, the fastest way to lose a friend is lend him money.
joe rogan
Oh, dude, man.
I've got a guy who's owed me money for so long that I just don't even bring it up anymore.
And he'll call me up and he'll give Like it's all good?
Every time we talk, he'll give me this song and dance, but he's about to pay me back.
Dude, he's owed me money for like 10 years.
I can't believe he's still your friend.
Well, he's not really.
We're acquaintances now.
We're acquaintances now.
But that sealed it.
bryan callen
It's a mindset.
A lot of times, my experience with that is that, yes, there are plenty of stories of people who needed money badly, and they made good, and they paid it back.
joe rogan
Yes.
bryan callen
But, for the most part, the people I'm talking about, you just know.
You're like, man, you're always from one crisis to another.
What the fuck are you doing?
brendan schaub
And it doesn't matter.
My last fight, I signed this deal with this company.
I'm not going to call them out.
Close friend who did the deal and never saw the money.
I've known this guy forever.
Super close friend, man.
Financially, I'm fine.
I'm doing better than I've ever done, thank God.
We always had this rift.
He wasn't texting me or calling me back.
I just called him one day from a random number.
I said, hey, man, it's me.
Fuck the money, man.
Your friendship means more than money.
I don't care if I ever get that money, but let's just move on, man.
We're good.
Now we're good.
joe rogan
But he's always going to have that problem knowing that he ripped you off.
brendan schaub
That's fine.
I'm cool with that.
joe rogan
You are, but he's probably chewing away at him.
bryan callen
He's not.
It makes him feel less.
brendan schaub
But at least I know we're good and we have open relationship now.
joe rogan
Well, that's nice.
That's very nice of you.
I told this dude...
I mean, like, six months in, I was annoyed, you know, that I didn't get paid back.
But then I stopped.
Yeah.
You know, I mean, this is one guy.
I mean, I could go back over the times that I've been here.
And the problem is, everybody's got this scam.
Everybody's got this scheme.
You know, they want to come to you, and if you just give me this money, I'm going to start this business, and that business is going to make so much money.
And then as soon as my buddy gets in, he's going to bring his cousin who has a connection, and we're going to start this.
No!
unidentified
No!
No.
brendan schaub
But there's none of that, because how many people lent you money to get to where you're at?
Did you ask anyone?
joe rogan
I never asked anyone.
brendan schaub
Me neither.
No one does.
bryan callen
You know, Dove and I, I'll tell you who it was after we're off the air, but...
Shit.
unidentified
Fuck you.
bryan callen
I know, but Dove and I bought a comedian a car.
unidentified
What?
bryan callen
We loved this young guy, this young comedian, and both of us were like...
brendan schaub
His name's Jay Leno.
bryan callen
No, we loved him.
brendan schaub
Terrible investment.
bryan callen
We loved him, we thought he was amazing, and we liked him so much, and I was bothered at how he had no money.
joe rogan
Right.
bryan callen
And he was so smart and such a good guy.
And I was just like, this is bugging me.
And he's taking the bus down to San Diego and he's taking a bus around LA and he's got no way.
You can't live in LA. You can't be a comic and be living on the bus.
It's going to kill you at the end of the day.
So I said, I go, you know, man, I got some money.
And I said to Dove, I go, let's buy this guy a car.
I got a friend who deals in good cars.
They're not expensive.
Let's get him a reliable fucking Honda or something.
joe rogan
How much do you have to spend?
bryan callen
Four grand.
joe rogan
You spent four?
bryan callen
We both spent two or something.
It was not a big deal.
Meanwhile, long story short, just bought it for him, called me, thank you, thank you, all this stuff.
Always brings it up.
joe rogan
He sold it.
bryan callen
When I see him, no, he made it.
He made it in the business.
joe rogan
What?
bryan callen
He crushed it.
Yeah.
unidentified
Really?
bryan callen
I'll tell you who it is after this.
joe rogan
And he never paid you back?
bryan callen
I said to him, this is not a loan.
This is what we want to give you, and I will never take money back.
Because he didn't want to take it.
He's like, what are you doing?
I go, this is my gift to you because you're worth it.
And Dov said the same thing.
joe rogan
What does his name rhyme with?
bryan callen
That's not a bad story.
joe rogan
Why wouldn't you tell that story?
bryan callen
Well, I'd rather him tell you.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
You don't want him to know?
bryan callen
I'm going to write it down, though.
joe rogan
That he was a broke-ass bitch at one point?
bryan callen
Well, he...
joe rogan
We all are.
Let me see what you got over there.
brendan schaub
Never heard of him.
Never fucking heard of him.
So you gave Chris Rock a car?
bryan callen
Yeah.
joe rogan
I support that choice, the choice that you just made.
bryan callen
Of course.
See what I mean?
I knew right away.
I knew right away.
I was like, this dude is so smart.
joe rogan
And I also understand why you didn't say the name.
bryan callen
Yeah.
joe rogan
No need.
brendan schaub
Poor dude.
unidentified
No need.
joe rogan
Dude, I have a wonderful comedian.
brendan schaub
I don't mind helping anyone out.
A lot of fighters, too, man.
Listen, I get the struggle of the game, so anytime they help with t-shirts, Whether they're trying to get in podcasting, whatever.
I got one guy, Jack Mays, I hate to say his name, but my boy, he's trying to get a fight on Titan.
He's been doing it forever.
And my old manager and super close friend, Lex McMahon, owns Titan.
Well, he fights for a living, man.
This guy's a beast.
He has kids.
So I'm constantly hitting up Titan almost as his fucking manager.
Like, get this guy a fight, man.
Because they keep dragging him on, then someone falls out, and he's texting me like, dude, I don't know what to do.
So it's tough, man, because you want to help him, but I'm helping him in different ways than giving him money.
bryan callen
He's worth the effort.
Some people are worth the effort.
Even some people, if somebody asks me for money, and I feel like they really need it, it's almost worth the money to see them not...
Be in pain.
joe rogan
Right.
bryan callen
Like, I'll buy that, find my own piece of mind.
joe rogan
It's not a hard, fast rule, you know?
bryan callen
No, exactly.
joe rogan
Like most things.
Like, under most situations, when people need money or they come to you to borrow money, they're not gonna fucking make it.
It's just, it's not gonna happen.
brendan schaub
No, if they reach out to you for money, they're fucked.
joe rogan
But most of those guys...
They're looking for a shortcut.
Yes.
A part of the personality of someone who keeps coming to people asking for money.
It's so common that it's the same kind of guy.
It's like this guy that has this elaborate story that he tells you that involves some new thing that's going to happen and when that new thing happens, everything's going to take off.
brendan schaub
I love the stories.
I wish I could record them.
I wish I could record the stories.
unidentified
They're so brutal.
brendan schaub
I met with a guy the other day who's a buddy who I'm also in business with.
We're meeting...
On the idea of this merchandise thing, and he pitches this whole marijuana idea to me.
I'm like, what the fuck is wrong with you, man?
joe rogan
Like a business?
brendan schaub
A whole business.
Yeah, I've had that too.
I'm like, dude, get out of here, man.
Just focus on this.
joe rogan
He cornered me at the fucking store one night about some marijuana business he's doing and wants me to get involved, and they'll give me equity.
Dude, I'm not doing anything.
bryan callen
I have people call me all the time, about you, pitching me ideas for you.
They're just like, I got this great idea, I gotta speak to Joe Rogan in person.
I know, my friend, but it's just not gonna happen.
joe rogan
But I could see it all going bad.
I could see it, I mean, immediately.
You talk to this guy, first of all, the guy's super aggressive, coming up to you, wants to go into business with you.
He doesn't even know you.
Wants to go into business with you.
brendan schaub
That's your first sign of craziness.
joe rogan
And then, you know, once it all goes back, dude, I fucking made this business, man.
If it wasn't for fucking me, we wouldn't have this business.
And you're like, I don't even want to be a part of this.
Why am I here?
bryan callen
I gotta get out of here.
joe rogan
And the next thing you know, you get this crazy dude who hates you.
brendan schaub
Nothing worse.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean the people that need your help or need your money in that bad of a way where they go out of their way to get your face about it They're looking for like a way to shortcut the system.
Yeah, like the system of Making it as a comedian the system like how many guys have come up to you and go hey, man You know be fucking really cool if you take me on the road like what?
Dude, you don't get spots anywhere.
I can't take you on the road.
You're not putting in the proper hustle.
brendan schaub
Did you ever do that, Joe Rogan?
joe rogan
Never.
brendan schaub
Did you ever do that, Brian?
Yes, there's a reason why his ass is asking.
bryan callen
There's no shortcuts.
joe rogan
Listen, man, there's ways to do it.
I'm friends with all the door guys at the comedy store, and these motherfuckers, they put on their Instagram pages, they're constantly hitting open mic notes.
Constantly.
bryan callen
You've got to be writing and always performing.
Speaking of performing, we're going to be in Denver March 18th and 19th.
joe rogan
What are you guys doing?
brendan schaub
It's my birthday, too.
joe rogan
What's happening?
bryan callen
Oh, I'm glad you asked, Joe Rogan.
We're going to be doing a live show, Brandon Shaw, Brian Callen, Fighter and the Kid, March 18th, two shows at Comedy Works, March 19th, two shows, Comedy Works, South.
brendan schaub
It's my first time in Denver performing.
joe rogan
I love it.
It's one of my favorite places ever.
unidentified
It's amazing.
bryan callen
Your birthday, dude.
brendan schaub
It's my birthday.
bryan callen
Buy your tickets now.
Where do they go for tickets?
brendan schaub
tfatk.com.
bryan callen
tfatk.com.
brendan schaub
Sell this bitch out, Denver.
joe rogan
That's what I want for my birthday.
Denver's one of my favorite places on the planet Earth.
unidentified
I love it.
joe rogan
That's one of my favorite places.
bryan callen
Dude, that's where my wife is from.
joe rogan
I would move back there.
You want to move there together, we'll fucking move there, dude.
brendan schaub
Fuck that, man.
joe rogan
I'll do it in a heartbeat.
unidentified
Dude, don't do it.
joe rogan
You could live just 20 minutes from the city and be in the mountains and have a fucking insane house with a view.
bryan callen
Here's the problem.
joe rogan
Just drive down to Denver Comedy Works.
brendan schaub
Absolutely not, Mr. Rogan.
bryan callen
Here's the only problem.
brendan schaub
If you two leave, I'll be pissed.
bryan callen
No, dude.
My wife grew up in snow.
My wife grew up in snow.
She'll never move back.
unidentified
Exactly.
bryan callen
I did, too.
brendan schaub
Fuck that snow.
unidentified
Pussies.
bryan callen
People don't like the snow.
joe rogan
I like it.
brendan schaub
I like visiting Devlin.
joe rogan
Better track animals.
bryan callen
Hey, when are we going?
joe rogan
Soon.
We'll talk after this.
bryan callen
Please.
joe rogan
Yeah.
The thing got moved to August, though.
It's important.
Frank Castillo, he's one of the guys who works at the store, and this fucking kid is funny as shit, and he's hustling.
He puts up his Instagram posts.
If you look at Frank Castillo, I think it's just Frank Castillo on Instagram, but his Instagram posts just constantly post all the different open mics he goes to.
brendan schaub
You have to be like, there's too much competition.
joe rogan
Hammering.
He's doing open mic nights.
They'll do open mic nights that are outside on someone's roof.
They do them everywhere.
bryan callen
It doesn't matter where you do it.
That's how you have It doesn't matter.
It's an audience.
It doesn't matter.
joe rogan
I have this friend who's breaking into comedy, but this person has a large online social media following already, and then like breaking into stand-up, and we had a conversation about it, and they don't want to do the open...
I guess I'm making an obvious that it's a girl, but I'm not saying he or she.
brendan schaub
They're thinking they're too good for it.
joe rogan
They don't want to do that hard work.
bryan callen
They should know it's all the same.
They should also know it's all the same.
joe rogan
Well, not only that, how about the fact that you or I will do that grind?
In a heartbeat.
Brian and I will go to open mic nights.
bryan callen
I do it all the time.
joe rogan
Well, to this day.
We'll show up at an open mic night.
We even fucking plan it out.
bryan callen
Yep.
joe rogan
You know, I'll do spots.
I do the fucking...
Red Band has that ice house spot at 10 o'clock at night and there's like 30 people in there.
I'll fucking show up.
unidentified
It's great.
joe rogan
I'll text them up.
What's up?
Can I get in there?
brendan schaub
Kill those 30 people.
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
bryan callen
Because you write sometimes.
You come up with ideas.
brendan schaub
It's also your passion.
unidentified
That's the difference.
bryan callen
Hey, we need to start doing...
I'm going to start doing a lot more of that local stuff.
How about the Ha Ha Cafe, the new Ha Ha?
joe rogan
It's fucking amazing.
bryan callen
It's great!
joe rogan
Sometimes when I'm doing the Ice House, like the main room, Jan will have a show.
The Booker will have a little show in the little room over there.
And again, 30, 40 fucking people.
That room only holds 80. And sometimes, Red Band gets like 80 stuffed in there sometimes, and it is a It's a killer fucking crowd.
brendan schaub
It does sound fun.
joe rogan
They're on top of you, man.
There's like 80 people smushed in a really- I've done that room with you guys.
bryan callen
That's amazing.
joe rogan
That's a weird little room, right?
unidentified
Yep.
bryan callen
I love it.
brendan schaub
Those are great.
How weird is it when we started doing our live shows?
I didn't know.
Brian was like, dude, I think we're in Portland, Seattle.
bryan callen
800 people.
brendan schaub
800, 900 people.
I'm nervous.
I'm like, yeah, whatever.
Brian's like, dude, you don't realize this is crazy, man.
bryan callen
Getting theater gigs like that?
He's just jumping in.
joe rogan
It's big.
brendan schaub
What can you do?
joe rogan
It's big.
There's no one way to do it.
And what you're doing is different because you're doing that show.
You guys are essentially doing a dramatic piece.
Yes.
With a lot of ad-libbing and fucking around.
But you have a show.
Tom Segura and his wife, Christina Pazitsky, they have your mom's house.
They take that on the road.
And it's kind of the same sort of a thing.
They have an online podcast, but then they have a real live show.
brendan schaub
Like an extended branch.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And it becomes...
There's fun shit they do.
Yeah.
That's the greatest time of my life, man.
brendan schaub
Pinnacle of my life right now.
joe rogan
Would you want to do stand-up on your own?
brendan schaub
100%, yeah.
joe rogan
Now that you're doing it, right?
brendan schaub
Yeah, we kicked the show off.
I do the first 10-15 minutes.
joe rogan
That's a great job.
brendan schaub
I absolutely love it, man.
joe rogan
So do you think you'll start expanding and putting together an act and maybe even touring?
brendan schaub
Yeah, I think so.
joe rogan
Dude, you could totally do it.
brendan schaub
I'd like to do that.
joe rogan
You could totally do it.
Let's do a show with the three of us.
How about that?
brendan schaub
I'm in.
joe rogan
Come on, son.
You know how much fun that would be?
Us on the road?
Doing stand-up.
bryan callen
Hey, Brennan, get ready to play after 3,500 people, because if Rogan starts doing it, that's what it means.
joe rogan
How about that Chicago show?
I'd love it.
bryan callen
Oh, my God.
brendan schaub
I'm more happy now.
I get more satisfaction when there's those live crowds.
That's why I put them on Instagram, because I'm so happy.
It's hard to explain, because in the UFC, if you have a fight, right?
And I've never been in the main event.
I've been co-main events.
I've been in big fights.
But the crowd's not there just to see you.
They're there to see all fighters, right?
joe rogan
Right.
brendan schaub
But out of firing a kid, whether it's 800, 900 people, these sold-out shows, they're really there to see Bryan and Brendan.
So the love I get from that, I've been seeking it, looking for it my entire life.
My entire life.
For this approval, you know what I'm saying?
For this fucking approval, my entire life sold out tomorrow.
It's hard for me not to cry, man.
When I get done with them, it's hard for me not to cry.
joe rogan
Is that a bathroom?
That's Irvine, right?
You guys are doing Irvine?
brendan schaub
Yeah, Irvine tomorrow night.
I think there's like nine tickets left.
joe rogan
That's a fat room.
brendan schaub
I can't wait, man.
It's like Super Bowl Sunday for me, man.
joe rogan
It's fun, right?
brendan schaub
Insane.
joe rogan
Now you get it.
brendan schaub
I get it.
Thank God brain trauma hasn't kicked in where I can still fucking...
joe rogan
Dude, alpha brain the fuck out of yourself on a daily.
Eventually they're going to have stem cells.
You're going to shoot it in there.
You're going to be a super brainiac.
brendan schaub
Hopefully, man.
joe rogan
You don't want to get too smart, though.
Because if you get too smart, you'll consider the repercussions of saying what you're about to say.
brendan schaub
I know right now I'm just like that dumb fucking...
Dog just going, saying stuff?
joe rogan
I keep a certain amount of stupid on hand just for coming.
unidentified
I really do.
brendan schaub
You have to, huh?
joe rogan
There's a certain amount of, like, if I wanted to really go fucking Sat Nam, Namaste, and fucking meditate all day, the problem is I could kind of go there, too.
brendan schaub
Those guys aren't funny, though, are they?
joe rogan
No!
Well, it's not the kind of funny I do.
brendan schaub
No, not at all.
joe rogan
Some people get bruised up.
unidentified
For sure.
joe rogan
My kind of comedy, people get bruised up.
brendan schaub
But the thing is, if they don't have an opinion on what you're doing one way or the other, you're not doing shit, son.
You want more people to like you than hate you, but you need both.
If we release podcasts and I get all these hateful things and good things, I'm like, perfect, man.
We're doing good.
joe rogan
I know what I like.
I know the kind of comedy that I like.
And that's the kind of comedy that I like to do.
I don't like calm comedy.
I like chaos.
I like watching people have fun.
There's only a couple ways to do that.
The subject matter is always going to be controversial.
Like I always say, Joey Diaz is my favorite all-time comic.
Because he's 100% controversial.
His take on everything is always going to be controversial.
It's always going to be chaos.
brendan schaub
That's why you go to a show, because you don't want to hear what the average...
You want to see outrageous shit, man.
joe rogan
Well, he's a rock and roll comic.
brendan schaub
Yes.
joe rogan
You know, you're watching some fucking rock and roll.
You're watching some chaos.
brendan schaub
That's what I want, though.
unidentified
That's the best.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
That's why when someone has an opinion, like, that's why I don't watch these shows, whether it's NFL or UFC, where I know who's paying their bills, so they don't give a real opinion.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Like, nah, bitch.
Tell it like it is.
joe rogan
Well, that's why they wouldn't let you on UFC tonight.
That's why.
brendan schaub
That's why they got rid of it.
Also, I'm doing so well in my own shit with Firing the Kid and these live tours, when they wanted me to drive to Burbank to film the show and do all that stuff, I'm like, you gotta pay me this much, man.
This is what I'm worth now.
And they're like, well, we can get this dude for this.
I'm like, do that!
joe rogan
Good luck!
Do that, son!
brendan schaub
Do that!
joe rogan
Well, you understand your value.
You know, I think that is one thing where if I could give the UFC advice...
One thing that I would say is turn guys loose.
Turn guys loose.
Let them be themselves.
brendan schaub
That's what makes the UFC special because you look at baseball, it's on a downward trend because they have all these rules and guys can't be themselves.
We have so many personalities and to become a fucking cage fighter in your underwear, you gotta be pretty fucking crazy.
So you get these cool colorful personalities.
We want that man.
Let that fucking go.
joe rogan
Do you remember when Matt Brown got in trouble for talking about, like, Ronda and Misha?
brendan schaub
He goes, I'm not watching unless the women are naked.
Just some redneck shit.
unidentified
Matt Brown is a fucking savage.
Super savage.
joe rogan
He did a video the other day on Instagram of him with his kid on his lap, and his kid's, like, being cute and, you know, his little tiny baby, and he's like, it's hard being hard.
Because he's like trying to make a fucking hard ass face.
brendan schaub
He's just a straight savage.
joe rogan
He's just a savage and he's holding on to a baby in between deadlifts and punching people in the dick.
He's got a fucking baby in his head.
brendan schaub
Dude.
Does he have a fight coming up?
I feel like he does.
joe rogan
He was supposed to be scheduled but why do I think he pulled out or something or the fight got cancelled?
Wasn't he supposed to be fighting?
Why do I think he was supposed to be fighting Damien Maia?
brendan schaub
Because he's the last guy to beat Wonderboy.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
It was like four or five years ago, though.
joe rogan
What is Matt Brown's...
See if we can find that.
I feel like there was a great fight that was coming up that I was super excited for and it got canceled.
bryan callen
Do you have any hint of scoop on whether McGregor's going to fight Aldo next?
Or is it going to be Frankie Edgar?
brendan schaub
I think he fights Frankie.
joe rogan
Frankie Edgar is a way easier sell.
The Aldo fight, if Aldo comes back and wins, and wins in spectacular fashion, like say, if Aldo and Cub Swanson have a rematch, because Cub Swanson and Aldo went the same way that Frankie and McGregor went.
Aldo jumps at him, hits him with a flying knee, two seconds into the fight, and cracks him.
brendan schaub
You can't sell Aldo McGregor, too.
You can sell Frankie, just like you said.
bryan callen
Why not?
joe rogan
Because Aldo has to win.
He's got to win again.
If he wins again, see, the difference is, You could sell it, but you wouldn't sell it for as much as if Aldo won.
Okay, Damien Ma.
Yeah, I was right.
Alright, UFC 198. Damien Ma is on a win streak.
brendan schaub
That's in Brazil?
joe rogan
Hey!
Yeah, that's Fabricio Verdum, Stipe Miocic.
We'll be doing a fight companion because Joseph will be here.
brendan schaub
Fuck yeah, son.
joe rogan
That is the weekend of my daughter's birthday, so I can't go.
bryan callen
Go back to what you're saying about McGregor-Aldo.
joe rogan
Oh, so Aldo would have to...
He would have to, I mean...
brendan schaub
Redeem himself?
joe rogan
There would have to be something you could sell that's...
Like, when Manny Pacquiao got knocked dead, the Floyd Mayweather fight was off, but then he beats Chris Algieri, looks like a fucking demon again, starts looking fantastic, and you go, okay...
brendan schaub
We can see it.
joe rogan
We can see it again.
And then they sold the fight.
But if they tried to go right from the Juan Manuel Marquez knockout, right into the fight, they would lose a shitload of money.
The fighter has to win.
brendan schaub
Joe, that's why I like for...
For Misha, I want Misha Holly too.
joe rogan
Do you?
I want Misha Ronda.
brendan schaub
Really?
You want to see it for a third time?
I don't.
bryan callen
I think Misha's better now.
It'd be interesting to see.
joe rogan
Why do that?
But she's the champ.
Misha's the fucking champ now.
I think that's the fight.
brendan schaub
Because she's lost to Ronda twice already and didn't really come close to beating her.
joe rogan
She could lose to Amanda Nunes.
Amanda Nunes is no fucking joke.
brendan schaub
That's why you can't toss Amanda Nunes in there right now.
Because there's only three bitches who can fight right now that we're going to pay to see, really.
So you have Misha, Holly, Ronda, right?
Ronda's out probably until November is what they're saying.
So basically eight months.
joe rogan
Just because of movies?
brendan schaub
Who knows?
I bet she hurries her ass back up now that Misha's champ, right?
joe rogan
I don't know, man, because who knows, man?
brendan schaub
So let's say it's eight months, though.
joe rogan
If Misha just chooses to fight differently and not engage her and fight the way she fought Holly, if she fights Holly and fights smart and measured...
brendan schaub
Bro, she was getting her ass whooped against Holly until she pulled that out.
joe rogan
She was definitely losing.
unidentified
Definitely losing.
joe rogan
She was not getting whooped though.
I wouldn't say she was getting whooped.
bryan callen
Her face was well taken care of at the end of the fight.
brendan schaub
I can't go based on face, especially with 135 pound girls.
joe rogan
But listen, she never got rocked.
Her knees never buckled.
She never looked like she was going down or going out.
She was down 3 to 1. She was definitely down in points, but nothing Holly was doing was scary.
Holly was fighting real smart, and she was moving.
brendan schaub
Completely in control of the fight.
joe rogan
Completely in control of the stand-up exchanges.
brendan schaub
It wasn't like, is Misha going to win this?
I was talking to Brian during the fight, and I went, Man, it sucks for Misha, man.
She's always second best because if she's champ, she's a great champ because she looks good, she talks good, she represents good for women in the UFC. I would say all those things, great.
joe rogan
Yes, me too.
She's a great champ.
brendan schaub
Best champ we've had, I think.
joe rogan
She's a really nice person.
brendan schaub
Amazing.
joe rogan
She's great.
brendan schaub
So is Holly, by the way.
joe rogan
Yeah, she's a smoke show.
brendan schaub
That's what you want.
joe rogan
Especially that ass.
That ass is from the heavens.
No disrespect, Brian Carraway.
bryan callen
I was talking about this on the podcast.
I think that nobody talks about that.
That's a real love story.
That's an American love story.
Brian Carraway is so in her corner.
I think it's very romantic.
I think that's a very fucking...
I do.
I'm gonna cry a little bit.
joe rogan
I think you need to relax a little bit.
bryan callen
It's romantic, man.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I know, but you won't shut the fuck up about it.
bryan callen
But nobody gives...
Nobody talks about it.
brendan schaub
Yeah, because we don't give a fuck.
bryan callen
I do.
joe rogan
I think it's awesome.
I almost cried again when I was interviewing Misha.
brendan schaub
When Misha won?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Because she finally did it?
joe rogan
When she said...
When I said, how's that sound?
She goes, I've been waiting to hear you say those words for so long.
bryan callen
That was amazing.
brendan schaub
Dude, how about she was gonna retire?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
How about she was like, they're not giving my shot.
I'm about to be the fuck out.
joe rogan
Well, she was thinking about it.
What's she doing with her life?
brendan schaub
This is all I'm saying, Joe.
If, let's say, for whatever reason, you can't fight until November.
So that's, what, eight months?
Right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Why not do Holly Misha 2?
joe rogan
Well, you certainly could.
brendan schaub
That's the only other fight you can do.
joe rogan
But the problem with that fight is, well, there's not really a problem with that fight.
brendan schaub
What's the worst that happens?
Holly wins, then you have Holly-Ronda that we want to see, really?
That's the biggest blockbuster fight in history.
Because you've lost that.
joe rogan
Definitely.
But I would like to see, the problem is the time frame, but I would like to see Ronda versus Misha.
But, what if Misha wants to sit it out?
brendan schaub
What if Misha wants to wait for Ronda, and she just trains like a fucking demon for AJ? Which is what Holly should have done, and they should have just been on this PR fucking tour to build her celebrity up so high, so by the time her and Ronda fight, it's the biggest fight in UFC history.
joe rogan
I'm going to get Dana on the phone and have him hire you.
You know what's up.
bryan callen
Well, Dana agreed with that.
Of course.
unidentified
That's what he said.
joe rogan
That's what he wanted.
That's what Dana was saying.
brendan schaub
That's what Dana was saying.
And I remember...
Blast out.
People think I don't like Dana.
I like Dana, man.
We just disagree on certain things.
Who gives a fuck?
But I say, because Dana goes, yeah, she should have waited, but we had a meeting with her manager.
She was even in on the meeting, and they wanted to hurry up and fight, which I think was a mistake.
He's 100% correct.
joe rogan
Well, 100% correct financially, but you've got to respect her as a warrior.
What she wanted to do, she wanted to get in there, she wanted to throw down.
brendan schaub
People argue that all the time.
Oh, Shob, you've been a better fighter if you're a warrior.
joe rogan
You're an armchair quarterback when you're talking about Monday morning.
The day of the fight, she could have won.
And if she did won, she would look like even more of a king or queen.
brendan schaub
But pros and cons, I'm talking about when people say, ah, but such a warrior.
Listen, being a warrior doesn't pay the fucking bills 20 years from now.
joe rogan
That's true, but you gotta understand, she made a fuckload of money for that fight.
unidentified
She would've made so much more fucking money for Ronda.
bryan callen
I would say she's gonna have a shot at Ronda.
It's gonna happen.
brendan schaub
Holly?
bryan callen
I think Holly.
brendan schaub
Who knows how many fights Ronda's gonna fight?
bryan callen
But this is the risk in MMA. The risk in MMA is, look, if Conor loses to Frankie Edgar, Which is a possibility.
It's a scary fight for Conor.
joe rogan
Very, very strong fight.
bryan callen
And so, in a way, if he loses to Nate, now he loses to Frankie, that luster, that shine is gone.
And that's one of the things about MMA. He still has that shine though right now.
brendan schaub
He still has that shine because he lost a fucking savage at one season.
joe rogan
Frankie Edgar is a 48-hour storm.
You better have everything strapped down.
brendan schaub
He knocked Chad Mendes the fuck out.
bryan callen
He's a 48-hour star.
joe rogan
He's not going to get tired.
brendan schaub
Never.
joe rogan
He's not getting tired, and he's going to keep coming at you.
brendan schaub
Oh, and he can wrestle his ass off.
joe rogan
He can wrestle his ass off, and he's going to come at you with crazy angles.
His footwork is sensational.
brendan schaub
This is the problem, though.
If Conor connects, which Frankie does get hit.
joe rogan
Yeah.
You think could knock Connor out?
I mean, Frankie could get knocked out by Connor?
brendan schaub
Oh, very possible.
Very, very possible.
joe rogan
I think Connor could knock out anybody.
It's a good fight for Connor.
brendan schaub
At 145, Connor will not starch anybody.
joe rogan
Anybody.
bryan callen
Anybody.
brendan schaub
He's so heavy-handed.
joe rogan
But, by the way, so will Cub Swanson.
Cub Swanson couldn't connect on Frankie.
brendan schaub
He got murked, didn't he?
joe rogan
He got murked.
bryan callen
He got crowned.
joe rogan
Frankie just wolverined him.
Just...
unidentified
Very possible that will happen.
bryan callen
First of all, you know, Conor's got to suck a lot of weight.
It's a very hard suck for him.
And it's a five-round fight, and man, if anybody can grind you into the ground, it's that guy.
joe rogan
And you look at the Chad Mendes fight, obviously Conor had a knee injury going into that fight, but Chad took him down at will.
When Frankie gets you tired, man...
brendan schaub
You're in trouble, because that motherfucker moves.
joe rogan
What he did to Cub Swanson was incredible.
I mean, he just wore him down.
brendan schaub
I've never seen an asshole been like, really.
Cub, as far as I've seen everyone in the gym, Cub is the most talented guy I've ever seen in the gym.
It's fucking insane how talented that kid is.
So when I saw Frankie just dismantle him, I was like, holy fuck.
bryan callen
Frankie, Edgar, like you said, his footwork, his boxing's great, hard to hit.
brendan schaub
You know why they're not probably giving him, and I don't know the numbers, but I would assume, I don't think he's a draw.
joe rogan
Frankie's not, but it's a big fight.
brendan schaub
But if you give him Conor, you're good.
Because he's a fucking draw.
bryan callen
So what I'm asking is that if you're Conor's manager, and if you're Conor, doesn't it make sense to somehow duck Frankie in the interim?
No.
Fight Aldo for the big money.
brendan schaub
That ain't an easy fight.
joe rogan
You see, you can't sell Aldo unless Aldo wins, I'm telling you.
brendan schaub
How are you going to sell Aldo when he starched him in 16 seconds?
bryan callen
Because he was a champion for 10 years and also that starching happened so quickly, people go, I'm interested because I want to know if that was a fluke.
That's why I'm interested.
joe rogan
Yeah, but Brian, you could sell it.
You could sell it, but you're not going to sell it for nearly as much as you would sell it if Aldo wins something.
unidentified
I agree.
bryan callen
You need Aldo to fight.
joe rogan
Yeah, if Aldo fights Max Holloway, how about that?
What if he fights Max Holloway, and he looks like the Aldo.
That's a fucking fight, son!
And he looks like the Aldo of old, right?
brendan schaub
Or he gets his ass whooped.
joe rogan
Or he gets his ass whooped.
But one of those guys emerges, and then you've got the possibility of Max Holloway having a rematch with Conor.
He's the only guy that took Conor to a decision.
brendan schaub
And we need some young blood, and Max Holloway's that fucking guy.
joe rogan
And he's a bad motherfucker.
Oh, he's fucking bastard.
brendan schaub
We need some young blood.
joe rogan
And he's only like 24. Phew.
bryan callen
Is he only 24?
unidentified
I thought Holloway was fighting at 55. No, he's 45. He's a fucking freak.
joe rogan
He's got a fight coming up though.
Doesn't Max Holloway have a fight?
brendan schaub
Yeah, we just announced that Aldo, UFC 200, make it happen.
joe rogan
Why do I feel like he's got a good fight scheduled that I'm interested in?
Is he fighting llamas?
Is he fighting Ricardo Lamas?
Because Lamas just fought Diego, and Diego's only appearance at 45, he was way too sucked up.
bryan callen
Max is on a total winning streak, isn't he?
joe rogan
How about Diego Sanchez beating Jim Miller?
Goddamn season one.
Season one winner of the Ultimate Fighter.
brendan schaub
Him and Rashad are the only guys left, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, but Diego is still in the hot mix.
That fucking kid's an animal.
brendan schaub
He knows one thing.
joe rogan
Animal.
brendan schaub
Fighting.
joe rogan
Dude.
bryan callen
Diego Sanchez.
joe rogan
Watch his fight with Jake Ellenberger.
How about Martin Kampman?
That's the best one.
Because for two rounds, his fucking face is hanging off of his head.
brendan schaub
He's nuts, man.
joe rogan
And he wins the third round.
He wins the fucking third round.
bryan callen
Doesn't get tired.
joe rogan
Against a guy in Campman who fought at 85. You know, he's a small 85, as Diego won the season one and won 85 too.
But very good striking.
And Diego won the goddamn third round.
bryan callen
He puts his arms down and he goes, come on!
And then he starts fighting and you're like, oh!
joe rogan
He's fucking nuts, man.
bryan callen
He's mad now.
Now you got him angry.
joe rogan
Won the third round against Gilbert Melendez.
brendan schaub
That's right.
That was a fucking crap.
Dude, I was doing analyst work for ESPN, and all they want to talk about, I think it was JDS and whoever, Verdum was on that.
I forget which one it was.
And I went, fuck that.
Just hear me out.
Fuck that fight.
As a guy who knows fighting, you have to.
You have to talk about Diego and Gilbert Melendez.
Please!
And finally, they kind of showed it.
I'm like, I'm telling you guys, they're fucking dropping the ball.
This is the fight.
This is one where I'd show my kid, like, you want to see what fighting is about?
Insert Gilbert Diego hair.
I'm like, ESPN, get your shit together.
Insert, fuck, I think it was JDS Mark Connors on that, I forget, but get the fuck out of my face.
joe rogan
That's like, some guys, they want to fight like that, but they can't find a willing opponent.
But if you can get Diego and Gilbert together, Gilbert, if he fought smart, could probably out-move Diego.
unidentified
Oh, for sure.
joe rogan
Out-strike, but he decided to bite down They should put those guys on every car.
He's not retreating.
brendan schaub
Just every car.
Every two months those two fight.
Just every two months.
bryan callen
He's not going to step back.
He's going to stand in a phone booth with you and just bang.
brendan schaub
Such a good guy, too, man.
joe rogan
He got popped.
For what?
brendan schaub
Steroids.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Damn it.
brendan schaub
I know.
bryan callen
Ain't that a bitch?
You get older.
You need a little help.
joe rogan
God damn it.
You know, I'm torn on this.
I swear to God I'm torn.
bryan callen
You're going to see shorter careers.
You're going to see more injuries.
joe rogan
Dad bod Vitor bums me the fuck out.
brendan schaub
Me too, man.
unidentified
Fantastic.
I'm telling you, Tad Vod Vitor fucked my week up, man, when you see that.
bryan callen
Let me see it.
Bring it up.
joe rogan
I gotta see it.
TRT Vitor is maybe my all-time favorite fighter to watch.
brendan schaub
No, I like TRT. Just his explosiveness.
I like TRT Overeem.
TRT Overeem.
joe rogan
Okay, you're right.
brendan schaub
Because he's murdering bitches.
joe rogan
Yeah, TRT Overeem.
brendan schaub
Kicking heads off and shit.
joe rogan
Versus Brock Lesnar, that's hard to top.
brendan schaub
That made me want to retire early.
joe rogan
Plus the size factor.
He's just so big and ridiculous.
He didn't even look like a human.
brendan schaub
With world-class striking.
joe rogan
Yeah, but fucking Vitor wheel-kicked Rockhold.
Never threw a wheel-kick in a fight.
brendan schaub
Hold up, bro.
Wheel-kick Michael Bisping's eye off.
joe rogan
That was a round kick.
unidentified
Bisping can't see!
brendan schaub
He kicked his eye off.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
See, his girl is so fucking hot, too.
joe rogan
Well, it's hard to tell, man.
That could be the shirt sticking out like that.
When he fought Chris Wyman, everyone was saying he's fat and that, but that might just be the shirt.
You can't really tell.
You know there's certain pictures you take.
unidentified
I agree.
joe rogan
I like the fact that he put that online.
He doesn't give a fuck.
Look at my gut.
Who gives a shit?
I just knocked out Dan Henderson in one round, bitch.
brendan schaub
First of all, knocked out Dan Henderson.
Look at my girl.
I'm rubbing her shoulders.
Eat dick, son.
joe rogan
Yeah, eat it.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I got a gut, but I'm fucking rich and Brazilian.
You know what I'm saying?
bryan callen
He's a superstar in Brazil.
joe rogan
What?!
Yeah.
brendan schaub
It's like Tom Cruise over there.
joe rogan
He got hit hardest by the Reebok deal.
bryan callen
Dude, I saw a special on...
I watched a documentary on Ronaldo.
joe rogan
The soccer player?
bryan callen
Yeah.
That's who you want to be in your next life.
joe rogan
Not really.
What if somebody beats his ass?
brendan schaub
He's small.
bryan callen
Oh, I don't give a shit.
He's the king of the world.
He's a prince.
I would make out with him.
All right.
brendan schaub
Vitor Belfort is up there, man.
That guy's killing it.
joe rogan
How about TRT Vitor?
brendan schaub
Ah, man.
joe rogan
TRT Vitor back in the Rockhold days when he fought Bisping.
Wouldn't you have liked to have seen what would happen if that guy fought Weidman?
I would have liked to have seen it.
bryan callen
I think Weidman still beat him with his wrestling.
brendan schaub
It's tough.
I want to see a TRT Vitor versus Luke Rockhold.
joe rogan
That's a motherfucking fight.
Well, we already saw that once.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he did kick his face off.
joe rogan
Kicked his face off.
brendan schaub
I'm talking about the champion Rockhold now.
Those are back in the day.
I'm talking now.
joe rogan
Dude, TRT Vitor is barely human.
Okay?
brendan schaub
Is he the scariest guy?
joe rogan
That's some kind of alien.
unidentified
Is he the scariest guy?
joe rogan
You know why?
Because here's the thing about TRT Vitor.
You got this freak body with abundance of fast twitch muscle fibers.
Ridiculous work ethic.
See, he's still in good shape.
That was him throwing a punch there.
I don't know why he's throwing one punch and dropping his hands like that.
Why would you show that video?
brendan schaub
Excuse me, sir.
It's Vitor Balfour.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's one punch knocking people out.
But it's weird.
Like, why would you show...
This is a weird thing to show.
brendan schaub
I don't think he gives a fuck.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, that's the weirdest thing.
I guess they're working on some moves or something like that.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he's just moving around.
Could be at the end of the workout.
joe rogan
You compare that to go to the Rockhold fight.
Vitor versus Luke Rockhold.
By the way, we might have brought up TRT Vitor when we get together about 30 times.
brendan schaub
Now we're obsessed with him.
Every time.
joe rogan
He was a psycho, man.
brendan schaub
He was so fucking terrifying.
You know what threw me for a loop?
And this just shook my fucking world.
Kimbo and Ken Shamrock!
Busted for TR! That's outrageous!
joe rogan
Who saw that coming?
bryan callen
I don't believe it.
joe rogan
That doesn't make any sense.
unidentified
Look at him there.
bryan callen
Oh my lord.
joe rogan
Look at him there.
He's a demon.
brendan schaub
Look at Rockhold in that though.
joe rogan
Rockhold's all natural there, like surfing and shit.
brendan schaub
Just a basic ass haircut.
bryan callen
Rockhold looks like a schoolboy there.
joe rogan
He's like, what?
brendan schaub
He had his fucking face kicked off in Brazil.
Why don't you go ahead and fly 14 hours and get your face kicked off?
bryan callen
Look at that.
joe rogan
Rockwell told me he saw him at the weigh-ins and was like, what the fuck is this guy on?
He said, you could tell just looking at him.
brendan schaub
And then Vitor whispered in his ear, everything.
bryan callen
But here's the thing.
joe rogan
He's also, it's training.
I mean, it is not just the fact that he was on TRT, which he most certainly was, but also the fact that he was training like a fucking monster.
brendan schaub
He was training like 20 hours a day.
joe rogan
See, that's him all sucked up, though.
That's at the weigh-ins.
When he's pointing to his Jesus waistband there.
brendan schaub
Yeah, for sure.
joe rogan
But when you see, like, above that...
bryan callen
It might be Jesus.
joe rogan
Like, throw that wheel kick.
Yeah, like, that's him when he wheel kicked Rockhold in the head.
Like, look how big he is.
I mean, Jesus Christ.
So the reason why I think he's the scariest is because he's got a massive amount of experience.
You're talking about a guy who's been fighting since 97. Yeah.
He's been training since, you know, years before that, right?
So he's been around forever.
Yeah.
Almost 20 years in the game.
brendan schaub
That's insane.
joe rogan
He's at 19 years in the game.
Especially at his level.
brendan schaub
At the highest, highest level.
joe rogan
At the highest level.
And he's only like 38 now.
I think he just turned 38, if I get it correctly.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Which is crazy.
brendan schaub
Such a nice guy, too, man.
He's like the nicest guy ever.
joe rogan
Very nice guy.
Vitor's a smart guy, too.
You know, and he speaks very fluent English as well as Brazilian, Portuguese, rather.
But if you look at his body, what you have is this freak body that also has all this knowledge.
And usually by the time a guy acquires all that knowledge, his body starts to fall apart.
I had a conversation with Eve Edwards about it.
We were talking about, like, Eve is a super knowledgeable guy.
brendan schaub
So many fights?
joe rogan
He's had so many fights.
And it's almost like he knows so much now, but his body just doesn't cooperate like it did when he was young and wild.
brendan schaub
That's a bummer.
joe rogan
Back in the Aaron Reilly days, you ever see his fights with Aaron Reilly, hook and shoot?
bryan callen
But you see a lot of guys who have resurgence, we were talking about this, like heavyweights and stuff, like Ben Rothwell, or guys like that, who, I mean, Fabrizio, you'll see them when they get to be in their 30s.
unidentified
Arlovski.
bryan callen
Yeah, Arlovski, they get in their 30s and they're fighting differently.
brendan schaub
That's heavyweights though.
Heavyweights will generally have a longer career and peak later.
bryan callen
GSP's thinking about coming back.
joe rogan
I think they genuinely don't know how to move their body as well when they're younger because there's so much mass.
I think if you look at little tiny people, one of the things I've noticed about having kids is you watch kids in gymnastics class and the shit they can do with their body, it's not just flexibility.
There's no weight.
There's no mass.
So they're like moving their body around, they're rolling around, they're doing flips, and they develop like an understanding of movement.
bryan callen
It's also being able to measure, like Chris Van Yerden was explaining to me how as you get better and better at boxing, you have to move less because your eye can measure shots.
So instead of like really moving to the side, like a guy like that will just literally step back like an inch, get you to miss, and then boom, capitalize.
brendan schaub
Experience is priceless, man.
Before I fought Roy Nelson, I remember Nate telling me, I was like, dude, I'm more athletic.
And he goes, yeah, but man, he has so much experience.
I'm telling you, it's priceless.
I was like, yeah, what the fuck does Nate Marquardt know?
joe rogan
A lot.
Nate Marquardt's a perfect example, too.
Who the fuck did he just knock out?
C.B. Dalloway.
And I was saying in that fight, I'm like, C.B. can't open up and chase him.
Fuck, no.
You can't just open up because the last thing to go on a guy like Nate Marquardt is his punch.
And Nate Marquardt can crack.
brendan schaub
So hard.
joe rogan
And he's cracked.
A lot of guys.
He's got a lot of memories of cracking people.
It's just in his muscle memory.
Horizontal.
He went flying through the air.
brendan schaub
You see that bullshit leg kick?
joe rogan
He tried to throw a knee at him.
He tried to lead knee.
He just caught him with a straight right.
brendan schaub
Dude, old school Nate Markhart.
Fuck, he was a badass.
joe rogan
He was a guy that was super talented but might have had a little bit too much damage by the time he got to the UFC. He started fighting when he was 17. Yeah.
bryan callen
17. He's still doing it and winning.
brendan schaub
The fight coming up.
joe rogan
His fucking highlight reel knockout of Tyron Woodley in Strikeforce is one of the best.
brendan schaub
Are you talking about that Mortal Kombat combo?
joe rogan
Oh my god.
One of the best combos.
Oh, he's a monster.
So talented.
Such a diverse and a lot of traditional martial arts techniques mixed with some really good boxing as well.
Well...
brendan schaub
Extensive martial arts background.
And he started fighting when he was very young.
Yeah.
He was like the first, like...
Especially in Colorado, man.
Nate was the shit.
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
He's the one...
I went...
I looked Nate up because he's the badass.
I went straight to his gym.
bryan callen
You said you'd never seen him lose a round in practice.
brendan schaub
Not for a very, very, very long time.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
He was like our team captain.
bryan callen
Well, GSP was his number one training partner, wasn't he?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
brendan schaub
He's the one that created that whole connection.
bryan callen
You're going to get better if your training partner is one of the greatest ever.
joe rogan
Well, there's that, but the word was always that Nate was better.
bryan callen
That's what I've heard.
joe rogan
I mean, Nate was a bigger guy, and he was fighting at 185. I asked Nate one time, I said, how do you do against GSP? And he said, well...
bryan callen
That's all I said.
He's so modest.
I go, what are you doing well?
brendan schaub
Most fighters are going to do it.
bryan callen
Yeah, he's not going to say anything else.
joe rogan
Yeah, why would he say anything?
brendan schaub
There's nothing worse.
joe rogan
What does his dick say?
He's like, well, who could he cover underwears?
brendan schaub
There's nothing worse than when you ask a guy something and he fucking, oh, dude, I fucked whoever, Vitor Belfort up in round one of practice?
We're talking about practice.
joe rogan
Well, there's a lot of guys that have that, right?
brendan schaub
Oh, it's the worst.
joe rogan
The practice thing.
bryan callen
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's some good fights coming up, man.
brendan schaub
What's your call?
You got Frank Miramar Hunt.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's interesting.
bryan callen
What's your call?
joe rogan
Magny Hector Lombard.
brendan schaub
That fight scares me.
You know Neil's my buddy, and Hector, I'm a Hector Lombard fan.
He gets a hold of you.
You going for a ride.
joe rogan
He's also a guy that's been, he tested positive.
And he's been around a long time.
brendan schaub
Another mind-blowing one.
unidentified
I know.
joe rogan
Who saw that column?
brendan schaub
I was so surprised.
I'm like, what?
With that ass?
That's artificially created?
joe rogan
Looks like the letter S. Well, he, I feel like, is in the same boat as his other Cuban compatriot, Yoel Romero, in that they got to the UFC a little late in their career.
People forget, Hector Lombard was murking everybody over in Bellator.
bryan callen
Everybody.
joe rogan
He came over from Bellator.
bryan callen
85. Like, people forgot.
joe rogan
They forgot.
brendan schaub
You bitches forgot?
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
He's ripping dudes' faces off.
joe rogan
And he's, I think he's only 5'9".
brendan schaub
He's tiny.
bryan callen
The fight, the fight, he might even be 5'9".
He might be 5'8".
But the fight to see is him fighting.
joe rogan
I like how they do it in inches.
That's 5'9", right?
bryan callen
Yeah.
joe rogan
The fight, the fucking body on that guy.
bryan callen
Jesus Christ!
brendan schaub
I've never seen an ass, no homo, I've never seen an ass on a male in my life.
It's the best ass I've ever seen.
joe rogan
But he can explode on you, man.
He can explode on you.
brendan schaub
In many ways.
joe rogan
The way he knocked out Nate, a perfect example.
That knockout of Nate Markhart was fucking ferocious.
The angles and the fearlessness in which he chased Nate down and the knockout power.
When he's on, man, he's fucking terrifying.
brendan schaub
Good luck beating him when he's on.
bryan callen
I want to see him fight Robbie Lawler.
That's the fight I want to see.
joe rogan
How old is Hector now?
brendan schaub
Not young.
joe rogan
But he's never taken a beating in there.
brendan schaub
Still rolls with that acne, though.
joe rogan
How about when he went in and fucking destroyed Paul Harris?
38. That's when you saw how fucking scary he is, because Paul Harris couldn't do shit to him.
brendan schaub
Hector Lombard, before this drug test, and we don't know how he's going to be now, but the scariest guy at 170. Who the fuck knows?
If you draw that card, you're like, ah, fuck.
joe rogan
Fuck, son.
That ain't smart.
brendan schaub
It's not fun.
That ain't one where you're like, ah, I can expose this.
bryan callen
Magni looks like he's in a different weight class.
I mean, that might be the picture, but...
joe rogan
Yeah.
bryan callen
Or maybe it's not the picture.
joe rogan
No, no.
Magni's long and tall, though.
He's a totally different guy.
brendan schaub
Dude, how about...
Remember when we did the companion...
Powerful Alan Joban fighting on this card, but how about when we did the...
What's her name?
Remy Nakai.
Remember that?
unidentified
Remember that?
bryan callen
Yeah.
brendan schaub
I was all in her ass.
She's got her ass whooped by Meets Your Date.
joe rogan
You know what the...
Look at that build, son!
She's thick.
That's a thick one.
unidentified
Cutie pie.
joe rogan
She does like weird fetish stuff.
brendan schaub
Yeah, man.
I was into it.
joe rogan
I'm not exactly sure what it is.
I approve either way.
It's one of the few times where I read the captions and I'm glad I don't speak Japanese.
brendan schaub
She looks like Mark Hunt and Sakuraba had a baby.
unidentified
But she's got a cute face.
Fuck you, Cal!
joe rogan
Don't try covering this up!
And Leslie Smith, she had to get her ear sewed back on.
brendan schaub
Oh, that's right.
That bitch's ear fell off.
joe rogan
Bursted.
Jessica I. Jessica I blasted her ear and it shot up like a volcano.
And she wanted to keep going.
Her fucking ear was hanging off her head.
She had a hole that you could look deep into her skull.
bryan callen
What?
joe rogan
I'm not kidding, man.
I'd never seen anything like it.
brendan schaub
Yeah, she wanted to keep going.
joe rogan
They stopped it.
She wanted to keep going.
She was upset.
brendan schaub
That card is sleeping.
Good luck picking Knockout of the Night or Performance of the Night.
There's going to be so many knockouts on that card.
You look at the matchups.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I think there's a better picture, Jamie, where you can see there.
That's it.
You just had it right there.
Click on that one.
Yeah, you can see how deep the hole was.
It was a giant hole.
brendan schaub
It's because the skin gets so thin from the cauliflower and that bitch opened up.
joe rogan
Well, it's not that it gets thin, actually.
What it is is the actual cauliflower itself.
It helps rip apart the skin because it's like having a rock under your skin.
brendan schaub
Yes, it is.
joe rogan
You see that one?
You see that one, Jamie?
Look at that one.
That's what it looked like.
Oh my god.
You see into her fucking ear.
brendan schaub
You can see her brain.
joe rogan
So do you think while she had it sewed back on, she got the cauliflower trimmed off?
I would.
bryan callen
Yeah.
brendan schaub
I would too.
joe rogan
Trim that shit.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's gonna grow back if you keep training.
Isn't she Cesar Gracie?
I think she's one of them Cesar Gracie NorCal girls.
Or maybe Dave Terrell.
bryan callen
You gotta love fighting to do it for a living, man.
You gotta love fighting.
joe rogan
She's tough as fuck!
brendan schaub
Read the guy picture, man.
God damn it, girl.
Do your thing.
bryan callen
She looks like an anime doll.
joe rogan
I know, right?
brendan schaub
She is paid to do that shit, too.
joe rogan
Hey, think about how fucking tough Josh Berkman is.
We're talking about Hector Lombard.
Josh Berkman, who just fought his last fight and won at 55...
bryan callen
He's a veteran, man.
joe rogan
...fought Lombard.
bryan callen
That's right.
unidentified
That's right.
bryan callen
And he blocked it, sat there in the pocket.
joe rogan
And he was sick.
He went into that fight sick.
brendan schaub
Antibiotics, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's all fucked up.
brendan schaub
And that's the fight that Hector tested positive for.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's the fight Hector tested positive for.
bryan callen
And Berkman just sat there and just kind of parried and stayed pretty much markless.
brendan schaub
Dude, I thought Berkman was going to get murked.
joe rogan
He stayed dangerous.
That's why.
Especially when Lombard started to get a little tired, he didn't want to come in because...
brendan schaub
He was throwing bombs that fight.
joe rogan
Yeah, Berkman's winging bombs at you.
bryan callen
Smart fighter.
joe rogan
And you could hit him with a bat.
bryan callen
Yeah.
joe rogan
His defense is excellent.
That motherfucker could take a shot.
Well, he can take it, too.
He's just tough.
Berkman's been around.
And he's fought as heavy as, like, 205. Really?
Yeah, he fought Jeremy Horn once.
And I don't know what the fuck.
They had some crazy dispute.
There was some argument where they hated each other.
brendan schaub
He's been fighting forever.
joe rogan
Jeremy Horn is, like, one of the nicest guys in the world.
And Jeremy choked him out and spit on him.
unidentified
Oh, no.
joe rogan
He was out cold.
brendan schaub
Well, he can't do that.
joe rogan
I don't know what happened.
But Jeremy's the nicest guy ever.
bryan callen
Well, he's also a fighter.
joe rogan
I know, but I'm telling you, the idea that Jeremy could get so upset at someone is almost like alien to me.
I don't understand it.
bryan callen
Who does Nate Diaz fight next?
brendan schaub
You should fight Robbie Lawler at UFC 200?
joe rogan
No, I would say Dos Anjos is the fight.
Because I think that Robbie Lawler is too big for him.
If he's going to really fight at 170, he should...
I mean, he could fight at 170, make no mistake about it.
But if you look at the Rory McDonald fight, and you look at the Stun Gun Kim fight...
He could, also, you could easily make an argument, and I think it's not even an argument, it's a fact, he's a lot better than he was when he fought Rory McDonald, and he's a lot better than he was when he fought Dong Young Kim.
I think his fight, his last fight in particular, not just the Conor McGregor fight, but the fight with Michael Johnson before that, he's on fire.
Nate is comfortable.
He's confident and Nate is one of the slickest dudes when it comes to rolling with punches.
When Nate gets hit, Nate gets hit and he goes with shit.
He's going with shit and he's got this like long slinky fucking jab that comes out of nowhere.
brendan schaub
You have to give him a super fight after being Conor McGregor and he has such fucking momentum.
Whether he agrees with what the UFC does or whatever, you have to give that guy I think a title shot.
joe rogan
Well, the UFC, I think, they have to recognize that he's a superstar right now.
Nate Diaz is a fucking superstar right now.
bryan callen
But fight at 55, though.
joe rogan
I think 55 is his weight.
55 or 70. But if you give him 70, just give him more than two weeks notice.
brendan schaub
I think he has a better chance beating Robbie Lawler than he does Dos Anjos.
bryan callen
God, Robbie's just too big and strong, man.
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
Dos Anjos, yeah.
Well, Dos Anjos was his loss before he fought Michael Johnson.
Dos Anjos leg kicked the shit out of him.
brendan schaub
Horribly.
joe rogan
And mangled him on the ground once his leg was all fucked up.
bryan callen
Dos Anjos is...
joe rogan
Dos Anjos is a goddamn juggernaut, man.
unidentified
Who does he fight?
joe rogan
He fights Conor.
That's what I think.
brendan schaub
No, come on, son.
joe rogan
You can't do that.
brendan schaub
No, you can't do that.
That's Conor's worst matchup.
joe rogan
That's what we were supposed to see!
brendan schaub
No!
bryan callen
That's what we were supposed to see!
brendan schaub
Not anymore!
bryan callen
I don't think it works out well for Conor.
joe rogan
Come on, man.
brendan schaub
I don't want to see that fight now.
joe rogan
What if he sleeps him?
bryan callen
Okay.
joe rogan
Whack!
What if he one-punches him like he did also?
bryan callen
He's a better boxer.
joe rogan
And we're like, God damn it!
bryan callen
This is chaos!
It's possible.
brendan schaub
It is possible.
He has to go to 145, fight Frankie, and then let's talk about 55. Well, I think he kind of has to defend his title.
You can't lose at 70, then fight the champ at 55, and then go back to 45. It doesn't work like that.
bryan callen
Here's a big thing.
Here's a question.
I'm not saying.
I'm asking a question.
brendan schaub
Oh, here we go.
bryan callen
Is it possible?
I'm gonna get shit.
Look, is it possible that Conor McGregor, because he's an excellent boxer and he's got that left hand, Is it possible that we're going to see people game plan to say, hey, just stay away from that left hand, and if you do, you can just grab them and grind them into the ground?
brendan schaub
You're not going to get shit for that.
joe rogan
We're talking about just take them down?
brendan schaub
That's nothing new.
joe rogan
Did you not really have a question and you just came up with a question after you said that?
bryan callen
No, my question?
joe rogan
That's what it was, right?
Jamie knows.
brendan schaub
Everyone knows his weak point is wrestling.
bryan callen
I've asked you this.
In other words, do you think that...
If he gets...
I guess what I'm really asking is...
brendan schaub
Yeah, please spit it out.
bryan callen
What I'm really asking is, is he just really good with that left hand?
And if you negate that, he becomes ordinary?
joe rogan
No, he's an excellent fighter.
brendan schaub
He's an amazing fighter.
joe rogan
People thrown in the towel because he lost at 179. You don't just knock out Aldo with one punch, destroy Marcus Brimage, destroy Diego Brandao.
He's destroyed Dennis Seaver.
He looks like a murderer.
He smashed Chad Mendes.
Conor McGregor is a gangster.
There's no doubt about it.
He just got a little crazy.
He thought he could fight anybody.
He went up all the way up to 170. He took a chance.
Granted, he fought Nate Diaz, who's not a real 170 anyway, but he's a legit 155 who can't make 145. Nate can't make 145. You see Nate cut down to 55, he is fucking shredded.
So another 10 pounds after that, that's not going to happen.
But Conor can make that weight, so you've got to think that Nate is a bigger guy.
brendan schaub
And I'll tell you why Conor's still the biggest draw in the UFC, because, and everyone should take notes, the way he's handled this loss...
He doesn't go into hiding.
He's not doing interviews.
He's not talking shit.
joe rogan
Just, what's up?
brendan schaub
I took a chance.
I fucking lost, man.
joe rogan
I will not apologize.
brendan schaub
Still in my suit.
Not going to apologize.
Took a fucking risk.
Who's fucking next?
joe rogan
Well, he loaded up on Nate.
He tried to take him out with one shot at a time, and you just can't do that.
He's not that easy.
He's not an easy out.
bryan callen
I don't know how he keeps DeSanjos, besides knocking him out, keeps him away from him.
I feel like if DeSanjos grabs him, It's a big, big problem.
joe rogan
Totally different animal physically.
bryan callen
I haven't seen any answer to that.
joe rogan
Completely different animal physically.
Dos Anjos has these thick ass ankles and thick ass wrists.
Thick ass.
He's a thick motherfucker.
brendan schaub
They're like knocking him out.
bryan callen
Have fun getting kicked in the leg by him and then grabbed around the body.
joe rogan
Also, his pace is insane.
brendan schaub
Insane.
He's breaking, dude.
joe rogan
Especially at 55. When I watched his fight with Pettis, I was like, how's this guy keeping this up?
brendan schaub
See, that's not the move.
If I'm Conor's manager, I have him first take some time off.
He doesn't fight at UFC 200. No, you're crazy.
joe rogan
He's fighting UFC 200. Why would he not?
bryan callen
When is that?
brendan schaub
Because he just got fucking murked.
He might need a break because the UFC has him doing interviews 24-7.
joe rogan
He got punched a couple of times, shot for a takedown.
He hit a couple of times on the ground and choked out.
brendan schaub
He got concussed.
joe rogan
Do you think he got a concussion?
unidentified
Huh?
brendan schaub
Yeah, I got fucking a one-two from fucking Nate Diaz that was on Wobble Street.
joe rogan
But is that a concussion?
brendan schaub
This motherfucker shot a double leg.
joe rogan
I know he did, but what is technically a concussion?
brendan schaub
Your brain getting fucked up and you see him double and then you revert back to old school stone cold ways.
bryan callen
A concussion is when your brain's bruised, right?
joe rogan
Right, well medically.
Like medically.
bryan callen
I think it's when you bruise your brain.
I don't know.
joe rogan
We know he got his bell rung.
We know he got rocked.
We saw his legs buckle.
We saw Nate beat the piss out of him on the ground before he choked him.
So all those count, right?
brendan schaub
That's brain trauma.
joe rogan
Yeah, so I wonder how much damage he did and I wonder how much time he really should take off because it's not the same like there's obviously levels of it like Rhonda getting head kicked by Holly is like the highest level.
The highest level is getting Gonzaga'd.
When Gonzaga knocked out Krokop, that was like the highest level.
Here's even better.
Terry Edom versus Barboza.
When Barboza wheel kicked Terry Edom, that's the highest level of KO. Go and take some time off, son.
That's the highest level of KO. Like the rest of your life.
brendan schaub
But either way, see, we say, well, he just got his bell rung.
That's brain trauma.
joe rogan
But there's levels, right?
brendan schaub
But still.
But you rushed to UFC 200 for what?
For what?
Why not do another day?
unidentified
Baby, give me that paper.
No, not just that.
brendan schaub
He's going to get paper no matter what.
bryan callen
Also, also, how long is your career, like, just injuries and stuff, man?
I don't know.
brendan schaub
We need a guy like Conor.
joe rogan
Look at Chad Mendes, too.
Look at Chad Mendes.
Chad Mendes goes from getting stopped by Conor and then immediately gets knocked out with one punch by Frankie.
bryan callen
Yeah.
joe rogan
And showed, like, that's not normal for him.
bryan callen
Right.
joe rogan
Usually he can take a really good shot.
brendan schaub
Yeah, man.
joe rogan
So he goes from that to that.
Now, when was the Ricardo Lamas fight?
It was before the Conor fight, right?
brendan schaub
Before Conor.
joe rogan
So he fights Ricardo Lamas, dusts him with one punch, hurts him at least with one punch, then puts him away.
Fights Conor, loses that fight, gets stopped, and gets really rocked.
Conor hits him with some big left hands.
bryan callen
He didn't get knocked out, but he kind of just...
unidentified
He was so tired, and then Frankie got punched.
joe rogan
He got TKO'd.
bryan callen
100%.
joe rogan
And then Frankie just takes him out with one left hook.
brendan schaub
Left hook from fucking New Jersey, son.
bryan callen
If I'm Connor's camp, I'm losing sleep over that guy Frankie Edgar.
joe rogan
You have to.
brendan schaub
It's his best matchup.
bryan callen
If he loses to Frankie, what happens to Connor at that point?
joe rogan
That's a real good question.
If he loses to Frankie, he's got to really figure out how to regroup.
It depends on how Frankie beats him.
If Frankie takes him down and beats the fuck out of him on the ground, then he's got a real problem.
bryan callen
That's what I'm saying.
A lot of guys go, oh, that's the blueprint.
brendan schaub
Brian, everyone knows that's how you beat Conor.
Everyone tries to do that, then they get fucking knocked out.
Everyone knows, everyone in this entire world knows, Conor's weak point is grappling.
It's nothing new.
bryan callen
But I would make an argument that he hasn't seen a real grappler.
brendan schaub
Chad Mender.
bryan callen
Except for Chad was good for one round.
joe rogan
Joe Duffy, who's the guy who beat him.
Joe Duffy arm-triangled him.
bryan callen
That's what I mean.
So what I'm saying is that...
brendan schaub
I'm telling you, you're saying nothing new.
bryan callen
No, I know.
I'm just saying that when you see what Chad Mendes did...
brendan schaub
It's like you're breaking news.
bryan callen
When you see what Chad Mendes did...
joe rogan
People right now are getting their fingers ready.
Brendan's a bully!
Brian Brendan's a big bully!
And Rogan backs him up!
They love picking on you, Calvin!
bryan callen
No, no.
That's not what it is.
brendan schaub
No, this is what...
Brian goes, just hear me out.
I'm going to take some heat from this.
No one's ever heard this.
What if you fight Conor and you take him down?
joe rogan
Just hear me out!
brendan schaub
I know it's crazy what I'm saying.
bryan callen
What I said is, if you could just get away, all you have to do is stay away from his left hand and not worry about anything else.
joe rogan
Yeah, but that's not true because he kicks good.
bryan callen
Conor's got really good kicks.
brendan schaub
His right hand's amazing, too.
joe rogan
Did you just say he kicks all right?
bryan callen
His kicking didn't do a thing to Nate Diaz.
joe rogan
Okay, yes it did.
He kicked him with some pretty good leg kicks.
He didn't throw anything...
bryan callen
I don't think his kicks are like Dos Anjos is what I'm saying.
They're not like...
unidentified
You can't take kicks all right.
joe rogan
He's a different kind of kicker than Dos Anjos.
brendan schaub
I can't entertain this conversation.
He'll take a piss.
When Brickell says his kicks are all right...
bryan callen
In comparison to a lot of guys, I feel like that's not...
I feel like when you fight Conor, you're worried about his left hand.
You're not worried about getting knocked out like Holly.
You say, be careful of that roundhouse.
You're going to get knocked out.
With Dos Anjos, watch out for those leg kicks.
With Aldo, watch out for those leg kicks.
With Conor, you're saying, stay away from that left hand.
joe rogan
Let me tell you something.
If he kicks you in the face, he can knock you out that way too.
And he can kick you in the face.
bryan callen
But he hasn't done it to anybody.
joe rogan
It doesn't mean anything.
He's got a lethal left hand for sure, but when I watch him throw kicks...
bryan callen
Well, you're closer.
joe rogan
He throws a lot of kicks, man.
He throws a lot of kicks, and a lot of times what he's doing is he's throwing almost disdainful kicks.
bryan callen
Setting you up.
joe rogan
Well, he's relaxed with them.
He's just throwing them in there.
He just throws them in there.
He's not like fucking gritting down and digging in.
Like Barboza grits down, digs in.
bryan callen
That's exactly what I'm saying, though.
The kicks themselves might be there as a distraction, but you're not going to have to...
It's not like your coach says, listen, those kicks are going to knock you out.
Where's Barboza?
joe rogan
You're negating the Chad Mendes fight because he fucked Chad up with kicks to the body.
He hit Chad with a hard spinning back kick to the body.
He front kicked him to the body a gang of times.
bryan callen
Yeah.
joe rogan
I think he's got a lot of tools.
It's just, does he have real world-class tools?
Like, here's the most world-class striker right now in MMA. Wonderboy.
That's the most dynamic and exciting striker in MMA. And what he's doing is, he's sport karate, but Muay Thai skills and wrestling, takedown defense.
And that combination is fucking ridiculous.
Just hear me out.
brendan schaub
I know it's crazy.
joe rogan
If I'm fighting him.
unidentified
He's long.
joe rogan
He fights his hands down.
bryan callen
You can't find a sparring partner to match him.
No.
joe rogan
Well, he was 57-0, I think it was, in kickboxing.
bryan callen
Yeah, 57-0.
joe rogan
What the fuck?
brendan schaub
This is what's crazy.
How crazy is MMA where Conor loses, Ronda loses, Holly loses?
You can't predict it.
Everybody.
Except for that bad motherfucker, pound for pound, number one, Jon Jones.
joe rogan
I was going to say Demetrius Mighty Mouse Johnson.
brendan schaub
Nah, he's lost though.
I'm talking about the only guy who hasn't.
joe rogan
He hasn't lost since he fought Dominic Cruz.
He lost a decision to Dominic Cruz.
brendan schaub
Still lost.
I'm just saying a guy who hasn't.
Jon Jones.
Not even close.
joe rogan
That's true.
bryan callen
Jon Jones hasn't been...
Well, Gustafson.
joe rogan
Still won.
I want to see him in Rumble.
I really do.
brendan schaub
Me too.
bryan callen
I think he's going to wrestle.
I think if he fights with Rumble, I think you'll see Jon Jones take Rumble down a whole bunch of times.
brendan schaub
Take him down first.
joe rogan
Here's the thing about Jon.
Jon could be the nail.
He's not just the hammer.
He could be the nail.
And it's one of the things that's really scary about him.
He's so fucking talented, but he still can take a beating and he does not give up.
He got his arm basically snapped backwards by Vitor Belfort, and then he submitted Vitor later in the fight.
I mean, he fought...
bryan callen
She had all of Vitor's entire body on him.
joe rogan
He fought Chael Sonnen, beat the fuck out of him, and in beating the fuck out of him, he broke his toe sideways, twisted it around backwards, and he didn't even realize it until we were talking.
He didn't even realize it until he had his belt on.
And he looks down, and the bottom of his big toe is facing up.
brendan schaub
And that's wild, Jon Jones.
Now he's lifting and praying.
Good luck beating him!
joe rogan
He's lifting and drinking fucking...
bryan callen
He's lifting and praying.
joe rogan
He's drinking Fiji water and doing squats.
brendan schaub
I love that.
That's his Instagram.
They show him lifting and he's like, he's changed.
This is brilliant.
He's fucking changed.
joe rogan
This is a cynical brother shot.
Cynical Brendan Shaw, who doesn't believe in movement coaches, also doesn't believe John Jones is cherry.
bryan callen
He does cherry work, Brendan.
brendan schaub
I'm saying good luck beating that dude.
Good luck beating him.
joe rogan
Good luck beating that dude.
And if he is super dedicated, even more good luck beating him.
brendan schaub
Hopefully.
Sometimes you need that wild card for greatness.
You need to be a little crazy.
joe rogan
I believe that.
He's a wild mother.
brendan schaub
I want my champ doing a couple lines here and there.
I want my champ getting caught in a Bentley with prostitutes.
unidentified
That's what I'm saying.
bryan callen
When you did that interview with him and Daniel Cormier and we were in the middle, the look in Jon Jones' eyes.
joe rogan
Oh, he's terrifying.
bryan callen
Dude, so what happened when the camera wasn't rolling?
joe rogan
Are you Well, they wouldn't talk to each other before.
And afterwards, John was...
They were talking mad shit on the way out in the parking lot.
But I didn't witness that, so I can't really speak on that.
But before it...
Like, I had a conversation with Daniel before it, separately.
And I had a quick conversation with John before it, separately.
Just saying, what's up?
How's everything?
You know, just chit-chat.
And...
Seeing how he's doing and that kind of stuff.
He's fucking terrifying, man.
When he's focused, some of the shit that he was saying to Daniel was like, ooh.
Yeah, he's like, Daniel's problem is I'm the alpha.
And he wants to be the alpha, but he knows he's always going to be my pussy.
You're always gonna be my pussy.
I don't know if they put that on the video.
unidentified
They would kill each other.
joe rogan
They didn't put that?
brendan schaub
They just took off the pussy, I think.
joe rogan
So it's not out online?
bryan callen
They would kill each other.
You can see that they should leave that online.
brendan schaub
It might be online.
I agree.
joe rogan
That's a mistake.
They should leave that in.
brendan schaub
Dude, I want John Jones to go full fucking Batman Joker.
Just be the heel.
joe rogan
The darkness.
unidentified
But I'll tell you what, man.
joe rogan
Daniel was pretty intense, too, man.
When Daniel was looking at him, sometimes fighters will say things, and he'll go, well, he doesn't really believe that, but he's saying that.
Daniel was telling him, I'm going to do everything in my power.
I'm willing to die to beat you.
I'm willing to die to beat you.
brendan schaub
What did John say?
He goes, you better be willing to.
joe rogan
Yeah.
John wasn't shaken by it at all.
But Daniel was super emotional.
It was intense, man.
It was really, really, really intense.
brendan schaub
I'm excited for that fight.
joe rogan
When did they fight?
brendan schaub
April.
I'm excited for that fight.
I don't think it changes, but I'm excited for it.
joe rogan
Why don't you come?
You want to come?
bryan callen
When is it?
Because we might be on tour.
brendan schaub
We have a Midwest tour in April.
joe rogan
Are you guys on tour?
Why don't you guys both come?
bryan callen
We could, but we have a show, I think.
joe rogan
It's like April 23rd and 24th?
Oh, you have a show that night?
bryan callen
No, we have a show in Oklahoma.
brendan schaub
Oh, we do.
joe rogan
Well, what a great move, being in Oklahoma.
brendan schaub
You know damn well I don't go to UFC events.
They're like, hey, can we talk to you in the back?
joe rogan
What are they going to be mad at you if you hype up the fights?
brendan schaub
Hey, you mind taking an interview with Erdogan?
Back here, just like Robert De Niro.
Yeah, back there.
unidentified
Keep going.
bryan callen
Why is that flag?
Oh, shit.
brendan schaub
Yeah, Schaub died.
Who killed him?
We have no idea.
bryan callen
He just seen me.
Sorry.
brendan schaub
The Dana White entourage kills me.
bryan callen
I love your child for you.
joe rogan
At the end of the day, what you do for the UFC by talking about fights, it hypes up fights.
bryan callen
Yes.
joe rogan
You know, you gotta let it be a little bit looser.
Because you're dealing with...
500 different fighters, so there's hundreds of potential matchups and maybe thousands if you count them all up, right?
And, you know, there's a lot of disagreement, there's a lot of debate, but what you guys do with the Fighter and the Kid, Fighter and the Kid podcast, F-T-C-K, L-B-Q-T... TFATK.com is the website.
TFATK, man.
bryan callen
For my tour schedule.
joe rogan
What you guys do is you create interest.
You get people excited.
You discuss things.
It's fun.
It's entertaining.
brendan schaub
This is the thing, though, Joe.
It's like, who pays our bills?
Not the UFC. I can say whatever I want the realest way.
Fox doesn't pay my bills, so there's no fucking regulator on there.
bryan callen
And you're fair.
brendan schaub
And it's rare.
Not really.
Sometimes.
joe rogan
Well, I think that what you guys do...
It's valuable, though, is what I was trying to say.
It's worth a lot.
You can't always control the message that comes out when it comes to something as exciting and dynamic and multifaceted as MMA fights.
There's just too much shit going on.
And then when it comes to things like controversial things like the Reebok deal or any other kind of sponsored situation or anything along those lines where there's a lot of disagreement...
You gotta let all that play out.
If you don't let all that play out, you're dealing with a super dynamic sport, and there's so many different areas to explore, and all those areas create interest.
And I think by limiting the conversation, what you do is you limit the amount of interest.
Because there's going to be disagreements.
There's going to be people that are pro this and pro that and pro her and pro him.
And if you've got a guy like you who's controversial and says a bunch of crazy shit, all that does is blossom.
And at the end of the day, you're not a bad guy.
You like MMA. You love the UFC. Love it.
You're genuinely intrigued about these matchups.
You just have a controversial point of view.
That shouldn't be silent.
I agree.
brendan schaub
And it's also that, you know, with the Reebok deal or any of these matchups, when you turn on, let's say you watch UFC tonight, who's paying their bills?
These guys can't be real.
The fighters with the Reebok deal, they can't come out because they can get backlash.
So I was the first guy where, yeah, they're censored.
So I was the first guy where, I'm not censored.
So I can say how it is, like, oh, you're a hater.
I'm not a hater.
I'm one of the first guys that, they can't do anything to me.
There's literally nothing to do.
So they banned me from UFC tonight and UFC Fight Pass.
I don't give a fuck.
I want double the money.
That's why I got banned.
For the first time, there's a guy with a voice.
Reebok's not paying the bills.
Zufa's not paying the bills.
Dana's not in my ear going, make sure you promote this.
joe rogan
I do what the fuck I want.
It would be a shame if they were, because it would be a shame if you stopped doing it the way you're doing it, because that's what's fun about it.
What's fun about your show is that you know that if you get Brennan wound up, he'll start talking some crazy shit.
bryan callen
I do.
And I do.
joe rogan
And the MMA journalists, they probably wrote three stories already during the time we've been doing this podcast.
They wrote three stories.
One about Joe Rogan disrespects Misha's ass and Brian Caraway.
That's probably one of them.
bryan callen
And you guys bullied me.
joe rogan
Something about fried chicken.
brendan schaub
Something about fried chicken.
joe rogan
We bullied you.
bryan callen
And I'm bullied.
brendan schaub
And I'm sure there's ARCA. I love Christy Mack.
joe rogan
Yeah, Brian Callen is a wrestling expert.
brendan schaub
And kick expert.
Brian Callen, breaking news.
How you beat Conor McGregor.
unidentified
Wrestling.
bryan callen
Take him down.
joe rogan
Not impressed with Conor McGregor's kick.
unidentified
Take him down.
What?
joe rogan
What?
Then someone shows a highlight reel of Conor McGregor doing spinning wheel kicks, front kicks, and dropping Chad Vendez.
bryan callen
The thing about the internet is I'll get 50 guys going, dude, you were the only one who knew about the kicks.
I can tell you.
And then you get like six people going, you should never talk about MMA. You're a piece of shit.
joe rogan
Well, you're going to have both.
For sure.
brendan schaub
I don't I don't read them anymore ever since talking to you.
You're like, don't read that shit.
joe rogan
You should choose who you communicate with in this life.
And one of the things that's good about criticism and online criticism is you can learn how other people view you.
And you can go, okay, yeah, I see that's right.
That's kind of valid.
Maybe I came off douchey, or maybe I should preface that better, or maybe I should explain myself better.
But then you realize that some of the people are just trying to hurt your feelings.
brendan schaub
Yes.
joe rogan
And then you have to realize, well, what kind of a person just tries to hurt your feelings?
unidentified
Losers.
brendan schaub
Yes.
joe rogan
That's it.
100%.
Anybody who's trying to hurt your feelings.
Reaching out to Big Brown, trying to make you feel bad.
Why are they doing that?
Why waste all that time?
Is there humor involved in what you're doing?
Are other people enjoying it?
Is there a method to it?
Do you have a message?
Or are you just trying to hurt Big Brown's feelings?
brendan schaub
But it's also, you know you're doing something right.
unidentified
Exactly.
brendan schaub
Because you're putting all this positive energy out and people are like, fuck!
I thought this dumbass was done once he lost to Travis Brown.
joe rogan
Wrong!
brendan schaub
Keepin' on, keepin' on!
joe rogan
But anybody, look at Kanye West.
I'm not a Kanye West fan.
I mean, I hear from Jamie, his music is excellent.
bryan callen
I'll tell you a Kanye West story after this.
joe rogan
I think his clothes are ridiculous.
brendan schaub
I love his shoes.
joe rogan
But I love the fact that he'll tweet something really stupid and stir all these dummies up.
brendan schaub
Oh, me too.
joe rogan
His feeding frenzy that he tweets, Bill Cosby's innocent!
Right before his album drops.
I mean, come on.
That is fucking funny.
That's some master manipulator type shit.
brendan schaub
I ended up marketing genius.
bryan callen
You know, I used to always go bad on Kanye, and I went out, and I was like, why is this guy, like, everybody likes him, and I know people are very intelligent and speak highly, so I tend to, I looked at this body of work.
That dude produced...
Well, I think I could take Kanye down, but what got to me is I was like, this guy's produced a shitload of music and it's all different, so I went and bought every song.
I bought every song he's ever done, and I spent three days listening to every song like three times, and I got the lyrics, right?
So I was like, alright, alright, look, you cannot deny that this guy is putting out crazy amounts of work, and it's really good.
joe rogan
He's very talented.
bryan callen
But then I started listening to interviews that he was giving.
Like, long ones.
Long form interviews.
And I have to say, I came full circle.
brendan schaub
The musical genius.
bryan callen
And he's got...
But he's also got shit to say that I agree with.
Like, I'm aligned with him.
I think he has...
joe rogan
He also trips over his own dick.
bryan callen
Yes.
And that's the problem.
brendan schaub
And you can relate to a poor Chicago black kid because you grew up rich and...
bryan callen
No, I can relate to an artist who says, I'm not going to limit myself, and I'm not going to censor myself, and I'm going to speak my mind because we live.
He goes, I feel like people are crazy.
Is it just about your Maybach and just about your status, or is it about something else?
And he was very eloquent about how he spoke.
I love what he said on Jimmy Kimmel.
That rant he had about being an artist?
brendan schaub
I told you to watch that.
bryan callen
Fucking great.
brendan schaub
I'm a Kanye fan, so I tried to convert Brian, and I finally did.
joe rogan
Do you own a pair of Yeezys?
brendan schaub
I just got them for my birthday.
They're so hard to get.
I know Jamie's jealous.
I just got some.
bryan callen
200 pairs of shoes.
He takes pictures of them.
joe rogan
That's cool.
brendan schaub
I have a lot of shoes.
bryan callen
Not really.
brendan schaub
It's not that cool.
joe rogan
You know what I love, man?
These are my favorite.
These new fucking Solomon.
They're like a hiking shoe that's a running shoe.
That's a Joe Rogan shoe.
You run up hills with these bitches.
Look at the tread in those motherfuckers.
bryan callen
That's a dad shoe.
That's an athletic dad shoe right there.
joe rogan
Son F. It's a fucking mountain hunter shoe, you cunt.
brendan schaub
Mountain hunter dad shoe.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'd run hills with these motherfuckers on.
I'd run hills with these dudes.
brendan schaub
He fucking killed animals in those things.
joe rogan
If you had like hiking boots, right, but you'd turn them into a running shoe.
bryan callen
Let me see it again.
joe rogan
Right here.
bryan callen
Yeah, maybe I'll wear those for my next time.
joe rogan
They're super light, real thin sole, and you could fucking, you feel the ground with them.
Can we go hiking?
bryan callen
Can we go hunting in those?
joe rogan
Yes, you could, but you wouldn't because you would get shit in your, well, unless you were in a place that didn't have like foliage.
bryan callen
You're not taking those from Alaska.
joe rogan
You want a higher, yeah, you want a higher ankle.
You want something that protects your ankle a little bit more, but if you're running heels, is what I use these for, they're fucking awesome, man.
brendan schaub
This is for me and you, Mr. Rogan.
You like shoes for their effectiveness and what they actually do.
joe rogan
Yes.
brendan schaub
I just like the way they look.
I just want them to look good in my jeans.
bryan callen
You would bind your feet like an...
Medieval Chinese woman if it looked good.
brendan schaub
You don't give a shit.
For the Yeezys, I was like, shit, they don't have a 13?
How's a 12-fit?
Pretty tight, I'll take.
joe rogan
I wore these the other day at REI, and they're like, ooh, nice Solomons.
bryan callen
Those kind of guys.
brendan schaub
Those guys are balls deep in those functional shoes.
joe rogan
The guys who would buy one of them water bladders that you put in your backpack.
Carry a water bottle, you fuck!
bryan callen
I like my salesman to be opinionated.
I went to buy boots at REI for a hunting trip, and I was like, I'm going to Alaska.
And I love a guy who's like, ooh, well, let me think about this.
Now, is it going to be in the winter?
Yeah, I'm looking at precipitation right now.
Let me pull up my graph.
That's my guy.
That's my guy.
Well, this soul is a fourth of an inch.
I'm going to say you're going to want that.
I want a guy who speaks in graphs and numbers.
When I buy a car, I want to hear the dude give me, well, we've got more cabin room in this.
I'm all about that guy, the detail guy.
joe rogan
I talked to a guy at the BMW dealership once.
We're discussing something about an M3, and he didn't know.
Jack, sure.
I got so turned up, I almost wanted to get away from them.
bryan callen
I want to want to torque, weight, all that.
joe rogan
Does this one have the active suspension?
They gotta know their shit, man.
If you don't know, this is one of the best cars you guys have ever made.
It's also your job, bitch.
brendan schaub
You're wearing a suit working on BMW for sure.
Tell me about the car.
joe rogan
You're selling these things.
brendan schaub
How do you not know?
joe rogan
How do I know more than you?
I'm a comedian.
bryan callen
When I went to look at my car, I did a little private experiment.
I was looking at Audis.
I was looking at Toyotas.
I was looking at Lexus.
And I did a little thing.
It's a chauvinistic thing, but I found that women, sales women, They're not up on the details like guys are.
Guys love numbers, stats, and all that.
And I found that women would usually go, you know, they knew the car, but they'd be like, I don't know about the...
That's something that I'd have to ask.
You should know that.
Yeah, guys.
joe rogan
You should definitely know that.
brendan schaub
Dude, I go in with all my research done.
I don't want this dude yapping my ear off.
I know what the fuck I want.
Like when I bought my Prius, which the lease is up next month, thank baby Jesus, I'm I bought it just for camp because I was driving all over California.
The lease is up, but when I bought that thing, he goes, oh, you want a test drive?
I'm like, nah, bitch, it's a Prius.
I'll figure it out.
I don't want to take it around the block.
It's depressing.
I'm just doing it for gas mileage.
unidentified
Then I got in, I was like, I need to figure something out.
joe rogan
Oh, you had to go through the book?
brendan schaub
Prius would bum you out.
bryan callen
You drive your Porsche, like, I beat him everywhere.
You drive your Porsche very carefully.
brendan schaub
I only open up when it's necessary.
joe rogan
Well, he's not a dickhead.
But if you had one of those cars, you would appreciate what one of those cars can do.
It's a ride.
brendan schaub
It's a piece of art.
joe rogan
Yeah.
When you're driving that thing, you're driving a finely engineered machine that's perfectly balanced to take corners.
Preach.
Preach Joe Rogan.
unidentified
That's what it is.
joe rogan
And it has this fucking sound of that flat six in the back.
brendan schaub
That's why I don't mind driving.
I get in my car, I'm like, fuck yeah.
bryan callen
Hey man, I don't take corners.
You know what I mean, guys?
I'm in traffic a lot, but thanks.
brendan schaub
No, it doesn't matter.
joe rogan
You can occasionally get out of traffic.
And when you do, it's way more fun to be in his car than your fucking granddad mobile.
bryan callen
You don't know.
brendan schaub
Granddad mobile.
I'm the guy when I see other Porsche on the road, I go...
Fucking thumbs up.
Fucking A, man.
joe rogan
You know what I saw the other day?
It's an elite club.
I had to wave to this guy and give him a thumbs up.
He had a Corvette Z06. The new Z06, the top comes off, so it becomes like a target top.
brendan schaub
It'll melt your face.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
bryan callen
Crazy fast.
joe rogan
It sounds so good.
Nothing sounds better than a fucking American V8. And you gave a serious sound.
This is a sound.
Woo!
bryan callen
You know what I think?
You know what I think?
When I think of that, when you make that noise, I go, I wouldn't hear my books on tape as loudly.
brendan schaub
Oh, man.
That's the difference between us.
bryan callen
That's literally where my head went.
I was like, ooh, I couldn't really listen to a book, a novel.
joe rogan
My wife gets in my car the other day.
She goes, what the fuck are you listening to?
I was listening to the Knock On podcast.
Knock On is an archery-based podcast by this guy John Dudley.
Goddamn, son.
Podcast is all about archery.
Yeah, he talks about fucking super technical shit about archery.
unidentified
You love it?
Fuck!
joe rogan
Fuck yeah!
I listen to it every day.
bryan callen
Dude, we still haven't sighted my bow, bro.
joe rogan
I know, I know, I know.
We've got to get your bow to a range, and we've got to get your draw length measured and stuff like that.
bryan callen
Obviously.
joe rogan
We can do that.
bryan callen
It's super important, Brian, that you do that.
joe rogan
We're going to go out in August, is what we're going to go out.
So what we're going to have is a good solid two to three months of serious preparation.
brendan schaub
It's called training camp.
joe rogan
What I want is you to be able to shoot accurately to 20 yards.
And then what I want you to do is not shoot anything outside of 20 yards.
bryan callen
They call me dead-eye.
joe rogan
In that amount of time, I think we can get that done.
I think we can get you to it.
brendan schaub
Hey Joe, I want to save your time because you're a busy man.
You know Brian's not a hunter, right?
bryan callen
Hey, no, I'm a hunter.
joe rogan
No, no, Brian's a hunter.
bryan callen
They call me dead-eye, bro.
joe rogan
They call me dead-eye.
I watched him shoot several deer, and he is steady on the fucking trigger.
He squeezes.
He doesn't jerk it.
He's got a great shot.
He's got a great aim.
No, he doesn't panic.
He makes good shots.
brendan schaub
How long are you guys going for?
joe rogan
We'll probably go for five or six.
unidentified
Hey, don't tell him.
bryan callen
Don't tell him.
Don't worry about it.
Don't worry about it.
You know what?
We'll be back.
joe rogan
We're going to be back.
bryan callen
We'll be back with meat.
Just know that you wait by the campfire.
We'll be back with fucking meat.
You enjoy your cushy life with your cappuccino.
We'll come back with the fucking meat and cover it in mosquito bites.
But it's worth it.
joe rogan
We're going hard.
bryan callen
And dysentery.
joe rogan
We're going to Nevada.
And we're going into the mountains of Nevada.
We're going to archery hunt for mule deer.
bryan callen
Yeah.
joe rogan
And so we're going to backpack in there, and we'll be camping, and we're going to be glassing and hiking.
bryan callen
It'll be warm.
unidentified
Six days warm.
joe rogan
I don't care.
brendan schaub
It's five days too long for me.
joe rogan
A couple things you've got to do.
We've got to figure out the bow thing.
That's a big one.
bryan callen
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's the biggest one.
We've got to get you hooked up with a bunch of different kinds of equipment.
Because with archery, one of the things that's really important, because you're getting really close to them, you've got to know which way the wind's blowing.
It's like a little talcum powder bottle, and you squeeze it into the air, and it blows up, and then it goes which way the air goes.
brendan schaub
You've got to start listening to this archery podcast, as a matter of fact.
joe rogan
It's too deep for you.
brendan schaub
No, you guys should start your own podcast about archery.
joe rogan
If you get to, like, the 1% of 1% that give a fuck about archery, that's the kind of shit I'm into.
I'm into, like, leveling your second and third axis.
I'm into multi-pin sights on a dovetail housing.
I'm into, do you use a kisser button or no kisser button?
What grain arrows?
What's the spine?
brendan schaub
Is that your number one passion right now, archery?
joe rogan
See, I shot 200 arrows the other day.
brendan schaub
Oh, my God.
joe rogan
I got problems.
bryan callen
What is it about- Of course you do.
brendan schaub
I'm insane.
bryan callen
I'm fucking- What is it about the tactile experience of archery that you love?
joe rogan
Like, what is it?
I told you, there's something wrong with me, man.
When I get into something, it's like that thing is like a fucking house could be on fire.
If I'm shooting bullseyes, I'm good.
I don't know what it is, man.
There's a switch that goes off, and then I'm no longer driving anymore.
brendan schaub
But Joe, don't you think if you picked up golf, you'd be...
unidentified
Yes!
joe rogan
That's why I never played golf, because I'm scared.
bryan callen
Keep them away from golf, dude.
joe rogan
You'll freak out.
brendan schaub
I don't think archery's your passion.
I think whatever you got into, you're That's true.
joe rogan
That's true, but it has to be cool and archery is fucking awesome.
bryan callen
Don't play golf, bro.
You will lose your life.
joe rogan
Look, I've lost my life with pool.
Dude, let me tell you something.
I have dreams someday.
Sometimes I sit around here and I'll do a bunch of podcasts and I'm like, ah, fucking, you know what I think I'm going to do?
I'm just going to quit everything and just go play pool on tour.
brendan schaub
Okay, that's intense.
bryan callen
I understand that though.
joe rogan
I understand that.
I'll run a few racks Sounds like a bad idea.
I'll smoke a fat joint and play with me.
Fitzsimmons is coming over the other day.
Not tomorrow.
Wednesday?
Thursday.
Wednesday?
Tomorrow.
Tomorrow.
When Fitzsimmons come over, you know what I'm really happy about?
We're going to play pool.
bryan callen
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's what I'm excited about.
I'm going to see him.
We're going to play some pool.
For sure don't give everything up and start a pool.
I feel like doing it sometimes.
bryan callen
This sounds weird, but I watch videos.
I'm telling you, man.
I watch videos on boxing footwork and tennis strokes.
joe rogan
Exactly.
bryan callen
And I practice that tennis stroke alone in my room.
joe rogan
What's wrong with you?
What's wrong with you?
bryan callen
I love it.
joe rogan
Dude, I have a release that I put.
I put my archer release.
I have a training tool where it's like a rope that I pull back and I hold it.
And I'm watching TV. I'm firing off shots.
So I'm clicking this and I'm watching TV. I'm by myself.
I don't give a fuck.
I'm just sitting there watching TV and I'll fire off shots.
bryan callen
But there's something zen about that.
There's something zen about it, right?
brendan schaub
That's intense, man.
joe rogan
Once you kill an elk with a bow and arrow, dude, the world becomes a totally different place.
It becomes a totally different place because you realize how, first of all, how fucking...
Primal and crazy that is.
And then also getting your food that way.
You're like, okay, I'm out of the factory farming system.
If I could do this every year, I'm out for life.
Now I'm completely responsible for all the meat I get.
I shoot one animal.
I eat that animal for a year.
bryan callen
Damn.
brendan schaub
One year?
joe rogan
Yeah, well, you know, you eat other stuff too, like I've shot a deer or two, and I give, you know what, I get almost as much satisfaction giving away to friends.
I love it.
bryan callen
I love it.
I love giving away.
That elk, I ate the shit.
unidentified
It's delicious.
brendan schaub
What happened to that elk sausage you made?
joe rogan
I got a gang of it.
It's at home.
You want some more?
brendan schaub
There's probably some in there.
It's like dried, right?
We're cutting it up.
joe rogan
No, it's breakfast sausage.
No, summer sausage.
Summer sausage.
brendan schaub
I'll eat some of that, too.
joe rogan
It's in the back.
unidentified
I'll have some.
joe rogan
I keep rolls of it in the refrigerator back there.
It's fucking delicious.
brendan schaub
I think it's raw, though.
joe rogan
No, no, no, no, no.
It's cooked.
No, it's cooked.
brendan schaub
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Go ahead and bring that out, B. No, it's cooked.
It's summer sausage.
You can cook it.
You can slice it.
brendan schaub
Put some eggs on it.
A little hot sauce.
My mouth is watering.
joe rogan
Well, I have a venison sausage that I had made, too.
Oh, my God.
unidentified
That sounds tasty, too.
joe rogan
I had some the other day with breakfast.
I feed my family with that, man.
brendan schaub
You guys keep killing shit, and then I'll take some of the sausage.
joe rogan
Dude, look, I like giving away almost as much as I like eating it.
I really do.
It's dope, man.
It's awesome.
Like, Duncan sent me a picture.
Him, his girlfriend, and Timothy Leary's son were eating elk meatballs from an elk- Oh, nice.
Sounds good.
unidentified
Oh, it's delicious.
brendan schaub
Dude, I'll tell you what I can't get enough of is those kombuchas.
joe rogan
I know, right?
brendan schaub
I drink three a day now.
Is that a problem you think?
joe rogan
GTs?
No.
brendan schaub
I love them.
joe rogan
People think we're doing an ad.
Every time I do something on Instagram, people go, everything.
brendan schaub
No, man, I just fucking love kombuchas.
But not the bullshit clear can.
It has to be the black 21 and over.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
I like to live on the wild side.
joe rogan
Well, explain that because people don't know what you mean.
brendan schaub
Well, the clear can, they basically produce those so they could sell in grocery stores because they have no alcohol content in them.
joe rogan
Very little.
brendan schaub
Very little.
So the black cans, they have more alcohol content, how they should be, how the tea is naturally fermented.
So you want the black can that says 21 and over.
joe rogan
It's not a black can, it's a bottle, and the difference is the label on the top, it's just the plastic rim around the bottle top when you open it is black.
brendan schaub
But bro, even the bottles are different on the 21 and over.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're darker.
Yes.
It's something about the fermentation.
Do we have a knife for that?
I got a samurai sword over there from the 1500s.
brendan schaub
Go ahead and slice that thing up with a samurai sword.
joe rogan
That is a real samurai sword from the 1500s.
Yes, it is.
That is a real samurai sword.
bryan callen
It's expensive.
brendan schaub
Is it?
joe rogan
Aubrey gave it to me.
Open that bitch up.
bryan callen
Yeah, it's not, but anyway.
brendan schaub
I feel like this is dangerous.
joe rogan
See, that's what you...
Your baller friends, that's the kind of shit they give you.
bryan callen
But this isn't from the 1500s.
joe rogan
They fooled you to steal an expert on this.
Shut your fucking mouth.
Oh, yes it is.
brendan schaub
It's like we're on Pawn Stars right now.
Shattering Rogan's dreams.
bryan callen
Yeah, it's an excellent replica.
Thank you so much.
joe rogan
No, that is 100% real.
unidentified
Of course.
joe rogan
The blade itself...
brendan schaub
You tell me that shit was $49.99, Brian?
joe rogan
Yeah.
They refurbish the handle and make it all perfect, but that blade is from the 1500s.
bryan callen
Yeah, that's a lie.
joe rogan
That's nice.
brendan schaub
The thing looks pretty fucking real.
joe rogan
That's real as fuck, dude.
brendan schaub
Hey, go up and cut that fucking sausage and stop jacking off the samurai sword.
joe rogan
I wonder if people have died by that sword.
brendan schaub
Good chance, if it's that old.
joe rogan
I wonder.
You know, if you think about all the samurai swords in the 1500s, how many...
bryan callen
Japan was in a continuous civil war for about 300 years, so there's a good chance.
joe rogan
But what I'm thinking is, is it like pistols?
Like, most people who have pistols never killed anybody.
brendan schaub
True.
joe rogan
You know what I mean?
Is that what it was back in the day with samurai swords?
Or were they just more liberal?
brendan schaub
I think they did more gangster shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, probably.
Take a little bit of that elk, son.
Slice into that bitch.
Oh yeah, Brian.
The plastic is getting you.
Take a piece.
brendan schaub
Hey, back to the kombucha, though.
People try telling me the benefits are fake on that.
joe rogan
And what's so?
brendan schaub
Just saying it's not that good for you.
It's all...
joe rogan
It's probiotic.
Well, probiotic is fermented vegetables and fermented mushrooms and things along those lines, which is essentially what kombucha is.
It's like a fungus.
It's very good for you.
It's very good.
brendan schaub
You want some of this, Joe?
unidentified
Sure.
brendan schaub
Can you eat some of this?
joe rogan
Yeah, I can eat that.
Fuck yeah.
It's very good for you.
Probiotics are super important.
Gut health.
You know what's a great way of getting it?
I love kimchi, man.
I've been getting into kimchi.
I found down near the Calabasas.
You ever go to that Calabasas Farmer's Market?
Erwan.
Well, the Farmer's Market is amazing.
Well, I'll take you.
I'll take you.
Calabasas Farmer's Market has these local kombuchas and local kimchis.
So good.
From people that run farms nearby, and then they have their own spicy...
brendan schaub
They taste pretty good?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's really good.
brendan schaub
I love them, man.
joe rogan
I love it.
brendan schaub
I don't drink soda.
I haven't drank soda in forever, but these replace that for me.
They're way healthier.
joe rogan
Well, kimchi is actually fermented cabbage.
It's like a spicy fermented cabbage.
But my point is that it's a really good source of probiotics.
bryan callen
I've been eating it every morning.
I don't know if it's because of that, but I feel amazing.
joe rogan
Kimchi's fantastic for you.
brendan schaub
It's probably that, Brian.
joe rogan
It's really good for you.
Well, gut health changes everything, man.
If you listen to some of my podcasts I've done with Rhonda Patrick, she goes deep into gut health and how important it is for all sorts of aspects of your personality, the way you think about things.
It's amazing.
bryan callen
They did that with rats where they changed the gut health in the rat, like the bacteria.
And some rats...
With healthy bacteria in their gut, kept fighting, I guess, just to get out of the water.
And others, when they changed the bacteria in their gut, it actually changed the serotonin levels in their brain.
Because apparently serotonin is made in the gut as well.
And they just became listless and gave up.
joe rogan
And drowned?
bryan callen
Yeah.
It had a direct effect.
joe rogan
Bitch ass rats.
brendan schaub
Yeah, that was some weak ass rats.
With stomach aches.
bryan callen
Oh.
If you're going to go swimming, make sure your gut's good.
joe rogan
See, and this all came from an animal that, I mean, I was there.
brendan schaub
That you shot in the face.
joe rogan
In the body.
brendan schaub
You ever shoot him in the face, though?
joe rogan
No, I don't shoot him in the face.
It's a good idea, though.
You don't do it because you really...
It's hard to be that accurate.
When you shoot a body, especially an elk, you have a giant target.
brendan schaub
As much as you're practicing, let's start going for some headshots on this next one.
bryan callen
I think that's taboo, right?
joe rogan
No, guys do it all the time with pigs.
There's a show called Pigman.
It's kind of hilarious.
I watch that show and I go, God, if vegans ever fucking found...
Oops.
brendan schaub
Boom.
joe rogan
I let it out.
There's a show called Pigman, okay?
And this motherfucker, he's called Pigman because he just kills pigs.
He's got a ranch attack.
I mean, he hunts all over the world.
You know, he just shot a moose with a bow and arrow.
brendan schaub
Like those cute pink pigs?
joe rogan
No, no, no, no.
Wild, invasive hogs.
bryan callen
Like those cute pink pigs.
brendan schaub
I love those.
bryan callen
Like the ones from Babe.
joe rogan
The one that was on my Instagram the other day that was carrying off a fawn.
Did you know that hogs carry off fawns and kill them and eat them?
Yeah.
bryan callen
That was a warthog.
joe rogan
No, it wasn't.
bryan callen
Really?
joe rogan
No, it was a pig.
That was an American domestic hog.
That's pig man.
He's got a patch on his eye because he was in a fucking car accident.
He got all fucked up and now he's got to shoot his bow with his left eye.
brendan schaub
Now he's taking the anger from losing his eye out on the pigs?
joe rogan
No, he's always been a pig murderer.
I mean, look, if you live in Texas, you've got to kill pigs.
brendan schaub
Is it that hard to kill pigs?
joe rogan
Yes.
You gotta find them, first of all.
I mean, they're massively invasive.
There's millions of them.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
I mean, fucking millions.
unidentified
Millions?
brendan schaub
You can't just take a machine gun and mow them?
joe rogan
In Texas alone, there are millions of wild hogs.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
It's so bad that Texas, they opened up a road, they had built a new road, and the night they opened it up, they got like 40 car accidents where people were slamming into pigs.
unidentified
You know what?
brendan schaub
Tim Kennedy told me this.
He said, in Texas, pigs are real fucking...
bryan callen
He gets on a horseback and hunts them with spear.
joe rogan
How about the fact they hunt them with fucking helicopters?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You want to see something crazy?
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
Watch this.
Pull up, Pigman and Ted Nugent hunt pigs with a helicopter.
They have episodes they call a porkalypse now, and they fucking fly around.
brendan schaub
Hey, is that hunting?
Is that really hunting, or is that massacre?
joe rogan
No, it's massacre.
bryan callen
Ted Nugent said it should be illegal not to do this.
Yes.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a massacre.
But that's what they have to do.
Like, look, there are things that you have to do if you want to...
Everybody has this idea that nature balances itself out.
But the problem with that idea is that 90% of everything that's ever existed ever is extinct.
90%.
So all those fucking animals that weren't helped along, like...
You know, I mean, there's a real big problem with bears and deer and moose populations because bear and wolves especially too now, in the places where wolves have been reintroduced, because wolves give birth to a litter, right?
So if a wolf pup, you know, if a wolf mom has like six babies, a moose only has one baby.
So the moose...
Has one baby and then there's this fucking wolf running around with six pups.
Well, just do the math.
You know, they're gonna slowly but surely start taking out all of the game animals.
And that's what's happening in a lot of states.
Are they just killing wolves now?
brendan schaub
Goddammit.
joe rogan
Well, they've reintroduced wolf hunting to a lot of states now.
brendan schaub
And bears?
joe rogan
Oh, bears have always been hunted.
Well, you have to hunt things.
brendan schaub
I like a nice Kodiak beer.
bryan callen
A lot of mountain lion.
joe rogan
You have to hunt things that don't have a predator.
Because if they don't have a predator, then nothing controls their population.
brendan schaub
Like great white sharks or what?
joe rogan
Well, great white sharks.
brendan schaub
Trying to hunt those next?
joe rogan
They clean shit up.
bryan callen
Dude, look at them hanging.
joe rogan
But that's just an ad.
There's actual episodes where you can see them do it.
brendan schaub
Those boys are just mowing down these little pigs.
joe rogan
A porkalypse was a night on the Sportsman's channel.
A porkalypse now?
Yeah, they kill everything on a porkalypse now.
brendan schaub
They just leave them or do they eat them?
joe rogan
My point being, this guy's dad, Pigman's dad, shoots pigs in the head all the time.
Not only does he shoot them in the head...
brendan schaub
Execution style?
joe rogan
...but way crazier.
What he does is he'll line corn up on the road like a row of corn like maybe like several yards long and then they get down there because it's a line they get down there to eat in a line and then he gets their heads lined up so when he gets their heads lined up he'll shoot through three of them with one bullet and he's always trying to kill like as many pigs as he can with one bullet to the head and it's That's crazy.
But it's fucked up, but they do have to kill these things.
So, look, if you can kill one by shooting it in the head, that is the best way to do it.
And some people are like, no, you shouldn't do it, man.
You shouldn't kill- Well, okay.
Well, then they're going to eat everything.
They're going to eat all the ground-nesting birds.
brendan schaub
They're going to eat all of each other.
bryan callen
First of all, Jamie, Google how many pigs we slaughter a day in this country.
The number will blow your mind.
joe rogan
You're talking about those soft pink cute pigs.
You're talking about domestic pigs.
unidentified
I'm just saying.
brendan schaub
You're talking about those soft pink pinkies.
I love those.
joe rogan
I like those pigs.
That's avoidable because you don't have to have farming, right?
You don't have to have factory farming.
bryan callen
You don't have to feed that many people you do.
joe rogan
My point is, we're talking about completely different issues.
My point is, if you let these wild hogs go nuts and just keep breeding, they're having three litters a year sometimes.
bryan callen
Yeah, that's really bad.
joe rogan
And each one of them is like six to eight fucking babies.
brendan schaub
500 hogs in 48 hours.
unidentified
They can run fast.
bryan callen
They run fast, by the way.
joe rogan
Oh, they're fast as shit.
And they know what's going on, man.
They're smart.
bryan callen
Wow.
joe rogan
They hear these pop, pop, pop, and they watch their friends explode.
They're not stupid.
brendan schaub
Are pigs smarter than dogs?
joe rogan
They're very smart.
They're very smart.
It depends on who's dog.
bryan callen
They can run though!
I'm impressed with how fast they run.
brendan schaub
It's a wild animal, Brian.
joe rogan
Not knowing that, it's terrified for its life.
But the question is, if you don't do this, okay, if you don't shoot them, What do you do?
Do you just let them...
Like, what is the vegan response?
What is the animal rights response?
brendan schaub
Build a wall for them.
unidentified
What do you do?
bryan callen
You gotta kill them.
unidentified
You can't.
bryan callen
You gotta kill them.
joe rogan
But you can't have a wall.
brendan schaub
That's a white one, you son of a bitch.
joe rogan
Well, there's a lot of these are domestic pigs that get loose.
bryan callen
I'm so impressed with how fast they run.
They bound.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're fast as fuck.
And by the way, this ain't easy to hit these fucking things.
brendan schaub
Dude, I love how they're running zigzag.
Yeah, fuck yeah, they're smart.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're trying.
bryan callen
You gotta be a good shot, though.
brendan schaub
Not if you got an automatic, right?
joe rogan
Well, you definitely have to be a good shot.
You still, I mean, guys miss on this show all the time.
brendan schaub
I played a lot of Halo as a kid.
No, for real.
I feel like I'd be alright.
Call of Duty and shit.
bryan callen
Hey, dude, they have kids now who are 16 years old because they've been playing video games and there were three.
You give them a couple of adjustments, they're shooting as well as a SWAT guy.
joe rogan
Yeah, they get used to pulling triggers.
brendan schaub
Those first-person shooters are real as a motherfucker.
It's all these fucks when they go into the theater shooting, they all fucking practice on that.
bryan callen
There are kids who are expert marksmen.
joe rogan
They get used to leading, too.
They get used to doing all kinds of different things.
brendan schaub
That's nuts, man.
bryan callen
This one kid was 16, and he was hitting headshots.
Bang, bang, bang, bang.
At first, he was kind of missing a little, and they gave him a couple of adjustments because it was a real gun.
In an afternoon, he was shooting as well as the expert marksman.
brendan schaub
The kid's playing a little too much video games.
bryan callen
He'd been playing since he was three.
joe rogan
That is so insane.
It's so insane if you think about what they can do now in comparison.
Think about what they used to be able to do 20 years ago, what they can do now, and then what they're going to be able to do 20 years from now.
brendan schaub
Are you talking about video games?
joe rogan
I'm talking about controlling things.
bryan callen
Fighters?
I wonder if fighters are going to have an ability to fight virtual reality, kind of move in their head and seeing shots come.
joe rogan
Here's one thing for sure is going to happen.
We're gonna have some iRobot-type assassins.
100%.
We're gonna release those on Afghanistan.
We're never gonna have another casualty.
unidentified
That's right.
brendan schaub
And they're also gonna release them.
joe rogan
Well, that's the problem.
brendan schaub
Suicide bombers?
Now it's a fucking iRobot that just walks into the Miami Dolphins stadium?
bryan callen
Oh, that's the worry.
unidentified
That one's for free, CI. We're ahead technologically, but gee whiz.
joe rogan
Well, for a little bit.
brendan schaub
China begs the difference.
joe rogan
Yeah, how about Korea?
brendan schaub
Well, I'm going to see that thing come from a mile away.
joe rogan
Look at that thing.
Atlas, the next generation.
This thing has a battery power on its back that it stole from a Tesla.
It's running around.
brendan schaub
I'm gonna go ahead and run behind that thing and yank the cords out.
I'm not afraid of that.
joe rogan
It's gonna know you're running behind it because it has cameras everywhere.
Just like a Tesla.
brendan schaub
Just like a Tesla?
joe rogan
That's how a Tesla drives.
This is insane, though.
This is weird to watch.
bryan callen
I know it is.
joe rogan
This thing walking around.
brendan schaub
Don't you feel like you just run up and fucking Bruce Lee kick it and fall over?
joe rogan
Well, it can see you coming, I would assume.
It has cameras everywhere.
Why wouldn't you put cameras 360 degrees on one of these fucking things?
It's picking up a box.
Ooh, it bends over correctly.
brendan schaub
Nice posture.
joe rogan
The guy slaps him, tries to knock him over.
unidentified
Oh, damn.
joe rogan
Damn.
That balance is legit.
Let me spinning back kick that day.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
Let me fucking yank him from the back.
joe rogan
I'll just sans-shy trip him.
Just get him in a collar tie.
unidentified
Right?
brendan schaub
Let me go and get that plumb.
bryan callen
This is the future.
This is the future.
brendan schaub
Hopefully it's a little more aerodynamic.
Alright, this guy keeps fucking with the robot.
I hope he fucks this Steve Jobs kid.
joe rogan
He's moving it around.
Now it's gonna chase after the package.
Why doesn't he get mad at the guy with the stick?
brendan schaub
I know.
Why didn't he slap the guy with the stick?
bryan callen
Because he's a kind robot.
brendan schaub
That's what I'm looking for.
joe rogan
Well, have you guys paid attention to this Go thing?
bryan callen
No.
joe rogan
Well, for the first time, Google's AI has been able to beat the best Go players in the world.
brendan schaub
What the fuck I'm talking about?
You roll up behind him and fucking push his sorry ass over.
joe rogan
Let's see it get back up.
brendan schaub
Fuck you, robot.
joe rogan
Let's see how it gets better.
brendan schaub
Yeah, but I'm yanking cords out once he gets down there.
joe rogan
It looks almost fake.
Like the way it's getting up.
Whoa, I don't like that.
brendan schaub
It looks like Robocop in 1988. Scary.
joe rogan
And it doesn't even bother defending itself.
bryan callen
Wow.
joe rogan
This is just a prototype, right?
We're looking at something that's gonna one day be like a Brendan Shaw or a Brian Callen.
You're not even gonna be able to tell.
brendan schaub
That's scary.
joe rogan
So anyway, the Google Artificial Intelligence, the AI, for the first time has been able to beat the best player in the world, a human being, at Go.
And Go, which is exponentially more difficult than chess, it's a super complicated game.
Wow.
And not only are these AI systems, this Google AI system able to beat the best player in the world, but it's doing it in some really creative ways that are freaking people out.
Because they're trying to figure out how these fucking games, how these...
Artificial intelligence programs are learning these games so well.
They thought it was gonna be years before one could beat a player.
Like a real world-class, top-of-the-food-chain Go player.
brendan schaub
God, I feel like a dumbass for not knowing this game.
bryan callen
I feel like that's not knowing Lee Sedol.
joe rogan
You could make up the rules, and I'd be like, okay.
I was playing Sorry with my kids the other day, and they were totally making up rules.
I could tell.
I was like, what?
That doesn't make any sense.
Daddy, definitely.
I go to reach for the fucking instructions.
She grabs my hand.
Oh, Daddy, let's not look at that.
Oh, I see what's up.
You're getting creative.
Getting creative.
bryan callen
Man, our kids are going to grow up with...
I saw the new Tesla SUV, because Will Smith's son had it at Air One.
He's got that...
joe rogan
Name dropper.
Look at you.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
Yeah, I'll tell you what.
Okay, we get it.
You're in Calabasas.
bryan callen
Sorry, guys.
joe rogan
He's got to spend that karate kid money somewhere.
bryan callen
That's right.
unidentified
Word.
bryan callen
Goddamn right.
joe rogan
Is he going to start a cult someday, yes or no?
bryan callen
Will Smith?
joe rogan
Either one.
Him, his son, anyone like that?
brendan schaub
Doesn't he want to disappear and he also doesn't see a difference in women in men's clothing, is what I read.
joe rogan
Well, there's no gender.
It's not real.
Doesn't he know that?
Who says this?
brendan schaub
There's no more he and she.
Will Smith.
joe rogan
Well, all bathrooms should just be shitting.
bryan callen
Kids will look her.
joe rogan
Kids will look her.
bryan callen
I'll tell you that much.
brendan schaub
Oh, you want equal rights?
Go ahead and share the bathroom.
joe rogan
Yeah, share the bathroom with Roy Nelson.
bryan callen
He's a good-looking kid, though.
joe rogan
I don't see man clothes and woman clothes.
Well, you need to get classes, because they're very different.
Girls wear skirts, boys wear fucking combat boots and shit.
brendan schaub
Go and put some high heels on and walk around all day.
joe rogan
Listen, if I was in this fucking kid's position, I'd be saying way more stupid shit than him.
brendan schaub
I'd be way weirder and doing way more crazy shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, anybody in that life, like growing up with your parents being...
You're a prince.
bryan callen
You grew up like a little prince.
joe rogan
It's not just a prince, but even weirder, because your dad is a professional make-believer.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
Your dad is just a guy who's really good at pretending, and he's world-renowned.
Everywhere you go, you're flying on private jets.
brendan schaub
His mom, too.
She's famous as fuck.
joe rogan
Did you see Chris Rock's bit about that?
brendan schaub
Oh, it's classic.
joe rogan
What did he say?
He's like, Jada Pinkett protesting at the Oscars is like protesting outside of Beyonce's pussy.
I'm not invited.
I was not invited.
bryan callen
It's a great joke.
It's perfect.
joe rogan
Who was the other black actor who tweeted- Thanks for almost fucking it up though.
I like how you chimed in in the middle of me.
bryan callen
Sorry, sorry.
I was trying to remember.
joe rogan
Really good for the timing.
bryan callen
Who was the other black actor who tweeted, hey Rihanna, act better.
I mean, hey Jada, act better.
I was like, oh jeez, man.
joe rogan
Oh, did they really?
bryan callen
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's good.
You want to get favor with the Academy.
That's the way to go.
What did you think about that whole Oscar's so white?
bryan callen
Well, you want my answer?
joe rogan
Yes.
bryan callen
Please.
joe rogan
More wrestling or gay stuff?
bryan callen
Whenever something bothers me, I'm usually kind of right about it in a way where I go, hmm, I know the message is important and I obviously am not prejudiced and I want everybody to be equal.
I think I resent when people cram it down my throat and try to shame me or scold me, which I felt like the Oscars were doing a little bit.
They did a good job, I think, of kind of taking...
The piss out of it, you know, making it, come on, we're off, blah, blah, blah.
And Chris Rock did a good job with what he had.
But I always feel like when Joe Biden talked about consent, and when Lady Gaga got up and sang that song about victims of sexual abuse, like...
I get it.
I'm with you.
I'm not pro-rape.
joe rogan
Who is not going to rape someone because of a Lady Gaga song?
unidentified
Exactly.
joe rogan
You are really not committed to rape.
brendan schaub
Matter of fact, it made me more angry.
unidentified
God damn it, I don't even want to rape, but I feel like it.
bryan callen
You feel like you're being...
joe rogan
Manipulated.
bryan callen
Yeah, and demonized.
joe rogan
Not only that, it's a manipulation where I already agree with you.
Yeah, we're all on board.
Racism is bad.
Duh.
bryan callen
Are you telling me something?
I don't know.
joe rogan
Sexual assault, it's bad.
bryan callen
Duh.
brendan schaub
Thank God Lady Gaga told me that because I was about to go rape a bitch.
unidentified
Thank God you sung that song.
bryan callen
Thanks for making a stand, you know what?
joe rogan
But it's not real.
It's social virtuing.
It's virtue signaling.
That's what Michael Shermer calls it.
bryan callen
Let me devil's advocate for a second.
Can you do that?
I can advocate devil's advocate.
brendan schaub
Advocate for the devil?
bryan callen
I do understand the idea that if you are Sam Smith and you say, hey, this is for all the LBT people out there, or if you are Lady Gaga.
joe rogan
LGBT? LGBT. You forgot the gay people.
How dare you?
bryan callen
It's all I see, guys.
unidentified
It's all I see.
joe rogan
Do you not see gay?
bryan callen
No, I have to exclude them.
joe rogan
Do you see women's clothing and men's clothing?
bryan callen
I don't, dude.
I'm just so colorblind.
I don't even know if you guys are girls or boys.
Do you have a front hole or a cock?
joe rogan
Let me check.
bryan callen
There it is.
But what was I saying?
Something really profound?
brendan schaub
But this is my thing, Joe.
While you're thinking, I was just going to keep going.
unidentified
While you're thinking.
joe rogan
Well, I think you were saying that I don't know what you're saying.
Someone says something.
Oh, yeah.
bryan callen
So I do think that there is a place to say, hey, if you are a victim out there, if you're a transgender kid and you're thinking about killing yourself, there is value to seeing really cool people, actors that you look up to saying, hey, dude, it's okay.
You're not a freak or it's okay to be who you are because that's the truth of who you are and feel empowered.
joe rogan
I get that.
I can't wait until it's no longer an issue.
So then we can start figuring out which one of these transgender people are just dummies that happen to be transgender.
Which one of these gay people are just dummies that happen to be gay?
Like there's a lot of that where people get free rides just because they're from a marginalized group.
bryan callen
It's not just that.
joe rogan
And they're annoying.
But they're a part of this whole thing.
A lot of the duh, a lot of the real duh is just coming from dummies that support a great cause.
brendan schaub
And they have a voice.
joe rogan
And that's a big problem with the whole social justice warrior movement is that a lot of it is just really fucked up socially retarded people.
I'll add something to it.
Those people have found an area in which, if you support this area, you can be the biggest cunt in the world supporting that area.
You could be fucking horrendous to people, rude to people, try to destroy people's lives, as long as you're doing within the confines and the parameters of that cause.
And I don't buy it, because I think those are just terrible people.
I think there's terrible people that found a good cause and they're jumping on it.
bryan callen
But to be specific, I don't even think it's about...
brendan schaub
Now they have a voice.
bryan callen
You can call them terrible people.
I think people like that are way less interested in the actual cause.
They're way more interested in power.
unidentified
Yeah, 100%.
bryan callen
And you see that.
You see people who, whether they're in Greenpeace or whatever, they just are not satisfied with winning a victory.
They are more interested in demonizing and controlling another group of people.
brendan schaub
I also think, going back to the Oscars...
Yes, there's no black people, you know, nominated.
Could it just be that all the white people had great movies that year?
Maybe they never got the major roles, which is an issue, but it just so happens this year, all the great movies, all the great actors happen to be white, so you just chalk it up as that.
bryan callen
I don't think Hollywood's racist.
joe rogan
It's a clever move, though, because Hollywood, they're such pussies that once you do have protests like this and say, Oscar's so white, they're going to fucking panic now.
brendan schaub
It's going to be all black next year.
joe rogan
Also, the type of movies that are going to get made, they're going to try to make movies for...
brendan schaub
Tyler Perry's like, yeah.
joe rogan
Yes!
No, no, that's not going to work.
But they're going to try to make really diversity-oriented movies.
unidentified
Already are.
bryan callen
They already are.
joe rogan
Of course, yeah.
But it's all artificial.
So this is like an adolescent stage.
So we'll get through the stage.
unidentified
The phase, yes.
joe rogan
And then it'll just be quality.
There's no denying Denzel Washington is one of the greatest actors of all time.
You don't give a fuck if he's black or if he's white.
He's fucking spectacular.
brendan schaub
Like Robert Downey Jr. When he went blackface, still great.
joe rogan
You shouldn't even talk about it.
You couldn't do that today.
bryan callen
Damn, Brendan, you're creating controversy.
joe rogan
Tropic Thunder, if you tried to do that today, you couldn't do that.
brendan schaub
You couldn't do it.
You couldn't do it.
I'm just saying he was a great mess.
bryan callen
That's right, I forgot he did that, and he was really good.
brendan schaub
He was amazing in it.
joe rogan
That's all I'm saying.
brendan schaub
You can't do that today.
joe rogan
You never go full retard.
Some of the greatest lines in any movie ever.
brendan schaub
It was brilliant.
joe rogan
That's a funny fucking movie, man.
bryan callen
It's a great movie.
joe rogan
Eddie Bravo and I were just rambling about it.
brendan schaub
We were talking about it on The Companion.
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's right.
bryan callen
You're so good.
joe rogan
I've talked about that movie like 10 times over the last year.
brendan schaub
Me too.
joe rogan
It's a spectacular movie that you couldn't make today.
brendan schaub
All I'm saying is it doesn't matter if Robert Jr. plays black guy, white guy.
unidentified
He's...
brendan schaub
Brilliant, man.
joe rogan
Can you still play a Chinese guy?
Could you still do, like, remember when they used to, what was the Charlie Chan?
Charlie Chan was a white guy that they pretended was Chinese.
bryan callen
No, I don't think you could, and I'll tell you something else.
He dressed up like a Native American, and we Instagrammed a picture for this sketch that we're doing.
brendan schaub
Oh, these social justice warriors.
bryan callen
You got some shit from that, and I answered some of them.
I was like, listen, man.
joe rogan
It's ethnic misappropriation.
brendan schaub
They're like, I hope you know how ridiculous you look.
Like, bitch, you got a Tesla.
What are you talking about?
You're not a real Indian.
What are you talking about?
joe rogan
Yeah, I saw one of the Kardashians had a photo of her in some Native American outfit, like a Pocahontas type outfit for Halloween.
bryan callen
Probably looks hot.
joe rogan
Probably hot as fuck, but just fucking...
All the blah, all the hate.
brendan schaub
Well, people want...
bryan callen
Who are you standing up for?
Who are you standing up for, too?
joe rogan
People want...
brendan schaub
Who are we standing up for?
joe rogan
Native Americans do not understand what cultural misappropriation is.
You don't because you have white privilege.
First of all, you should just shut the fuck up and listen.
This is a big thing that they like to do.
If someone of color is speaking, shut the fuck up and listen.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
I am noble and I am progressive.
And I want you to shut the fuck up and listen.
It's a big thing.
If a woman is talking about women's issues, how about we shut the fuck up, guys?
How about you guys, you men, just shut the fuck up?
unidentified
But the thing is, when I posted the Indian video, you don't even know the context.
brendan schaub
So for you to jump on there and be like, this is offensive.
Bitch, you're white.
bryan callen
It was also traditional garb.
It actually was very historically accurate.
brendan schaub
I don't give a fuck if it's fake as fuck.
joe rogan
It's a character!
Do you ever watch the YouTube videos from The Amazing Atheist?
bryan callen
No.
joe rogan
Amazing Atheist is great.
He's been on the podcast before, too.
He's fucking great.
His videos are amazing.
He had one the other day about how feminists hate when you use the phrase, not all men.
Because they want you to somehow or another be guilty for the actions of all men.
So if guys say, whoa, whoa, not all men rape.
Like, I don't rape.
Stop saying all men.
Stop categorizing all men.
brendan schaub
Which is fair.
joe rogan
Which is totally fair.
But he does this whole thing on this article.
It's some woman who's a crazy feminist.
By the way, I went to her page.
I'm blocked.
I love when I don't even know anybody.
I'm blocked on their Twitter page.
brendan schaub
She knew your ass was going to try to kill it after.
joe rogan
One of my favorite things.
No, you use these block programs that anybody who might have any remotely controversial view, they don't have to say.
brendan schaub
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Yes.
bryan callen
She's insular.
joe rogan
You're probably blocked, too.
bryan callen
Insulating herself.
joe rogan
But his fucking video on it is sensational.
He does such a good job of covering all the points.
He's self-deprecating.
He's funny.
Yeah, he's got really good fucking points.
And he's got a bunch...
I've been on a binge watch of some of his videos lately.
unidentified
He's excellent.
brendan schaub
I'll definitely watch them.
bryan callen
Excellent.
joe rogan
But this one just skewers the feminist ideology that you're supposed to just feel guilty for the actions of men that have done horrible things when you haven't done a goddamn thing.
But it's like...
What it is is...
They have this ability to demonize and they don't want to lose it.
You know, they can call up...
unidentified
It's power.
bryan callen
It's power.
joe rogan
And they use fake statistics like one in four women has been raped.
bryan callen
That's a lie.
Christine Summers on your podcast exposed that.
joe rogan
Exactly.
bryan callen
That gender study guy from Arizona, I think, or a woman from Arizona was the one who said that and she didn't have any...
It was a shoddy experiment.
It was bullshit.
joe rogan
Well, it's also...
They redefined what sexual assault and rape is to include regret.
bryan callen
That's right.
joe rogan
Which is outrageous.
bryan callen
And also alcohol.
joe rogan
If you've had sex while inebriated...
bryan callen
So if you had sex...
joe rogan
They've kind of abandoned that.
They've kind of abandoned that, by the way.
But feminists were riding that hard to the point where some feminists wrote a blog about it.
Like, if you've had sex while drunk, you've raped somebody.
I remember.
What?
They were saying women don't have sex with your man if your man's drunk because he can't consent.
unidentified
Fuck you!
joe rogan
Can I just sign a paper where you can suck my dick when I'm drunk?
brendan schaub
Is there anyone I can just text you approval?
joe rogan
You can't consent right now!
Trust me!
We're gonna be okay!
brendan schaub
Trust me!
I am ready to go!
I will sign whatever you want!
joe rogan
I would like to find the guy that has ever sued or taken a woman to court or tried to call the cops because he was drunk and a girl fucked him!
I want to find that guy!
brendan schaub
How dare you?
unidentified
How dare you?
brendan schaub
Can't be my friend!
bryan callen
There was a story a guy wrote an article I remember about ten years ago.
In the New York Times, he was talking about being a battered male.
And his girl beat him up.
joe rogan
It does happen, though.
bryan callen
Of course it does.
He went to the cops three times, and the cops were like this.
They were like...
unidentified
Man up!
bryan callen
They would all snicker.
brendan schaub
Is this in New York?
bryan callen
Yeah, it's in New York City.
unidentified
Yeah, go to a New York cop and tell me you're getting bullied by chicks.
joe rogan
What's funny is that was one of the subjects of the Amazing Atheist.
His name's TJ. One of the things that he brought up was that he used to work with this woman who used to sexually assault him.
TJ's like a big, sort of like, outside of doing his YouTube videos, he's, you know, kind of an introverted guy a little bit.
And he worked at this place, and this woman, who was an older woman, and she was his boss, she was always grabbing his ass and fucking with him.
unidentified
It's funny when it happens to a guy.
brendan schaub
It happens to a girl, it's terrible.
For a guy, to me, it's hilarious.
You watch him, she's up, bro.
Hey, sugar tits, why don't you get over here?
bryan callen
To me, that's hilarious.
There's nothing she could do to him that I would press charges on.
joe rogan
Nothing.
I'm confused.
brendan schaub
I would laugh it off.
bryan callen
Deal with it, bro.
unidentified
Deal with it.
joe rogan
I'm confused.
brendan schaub
I'm confused.
joe rogan
There's so much confusion with so many of these subjects.
bryan callen
When I was 14, if an older woman took advantage of me...
I would have been A-okay.
joe rogan
Yeah, but if she was your boss and she was gross, and I think he was like 20, I think he was a young guy.
bryan callen
Yeah, suck it up.
joe rogan
Yeah, but you're a different guy too.
Like if you're like an emotionally less introverted, a little less stable.
bryan callen
It's just different for women, man.
The guy's stronger.
The guy gets inside your body.
It's a thousand times different.
joe rogan
No doubt about it.
brendan schaub
She's not going to hold him down.
Fuck it.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
But it's like saying murder is really bad, so don't go...
I mean, if someone punches someone, it's no big deal.
But it is.
Getting knocked out is not as bad as getting stabbed and murdered, but it's still not good for you.
So his position of being sexually assaulted by that woman is not as bad.
brendan schaub
I don't know why that's funny to me.
joe rogan
It was reversed?
brendan schaub
I know it's fucked up, and I have a weird mind, but it's...
It's hilarious to me of him at night dreading going into work and he walks in, hey, fucking sugar dick, you know, just harass him nonstop.
joe rogan
What's even more funny is you being callous about this with a mouth full of elk and just chewing it down, mocking this guy.
bryan callen
How dare you, bro?
joe rogan
I think it's fucking funny.
Come on, pussy.
It is weird.
And the other thing that's weird is I don't have any sympathy for these fucking 16-year-old kids where their teacher blows them.
You know, when they get in gang bangs with a hot blonde t-shirt?
bryan callen
What fucking school was this?
brendan schaub
Thanks, Aurora Hills!
Where was my dick, son?
joe rogan
The real problem was the one pussy that falls in love with her.
That's the real problem.
brendan schaub
I know, that's what happens.
He fucks it up for everyone.
joe rogan
He ruins the gangbang.
brendan schaub
Because he starts telling everyone.
bryan callen
Baby, you're fucking out of my group.
joe rogan
He's like, if I can't have you, no one can have you.
Shut it down.
brendan schaub
I like the courts, too.
It's just this hot-ass teacher.
Like, this poor kid, you've terrorized him.
Meanwhile, the kid's like, huh?
bryan callen
One of the teachers was pretty, right?
joe rogan
One of the teachers was pretty, right?
brendan schaub
There's a whole list of them.
joe rogan
There's a website dedicated to hot teachers that have fucked their kids.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
My teachers were warlocks, son.
I had nothing.
bryan callen
Yeah.
brendan schaub
It's nothing.
joe rogan
I can't remember a single hot teacher that I had all through my years.
brendan schaub
Out of kindergarten, first grade, Miss Famuaro.
Smoke show.
joe rogan
There was a dude that was a handsome guy that was a Spanish teacher, and I think he was like, oh my god.
bryan callen
What?
joe rogan
Whoa, she's hot as fuck.
bryan callen
Free that woman right now.
brendan schaub
I will pay her bail right now.
joe rogan
How much time is she doing?
What does it say?
Where's she going to jail?
bryan callen
17!
joe rogan
Can we get rid of...
He was 17?
bryan callen
Between 14 and 17 years.
joe rogan
Oh, whatever.
brendan schaub
Went free on bail but was tried for oil.
joe rogan
She was 23. She was blowing a new guy?
bryan callen
She went free on bail.
joe rogan
She got free on bail and was blowing more people?
She's a freak!
Look, there's some girls...
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
Well, a little thick.
bryan callen
Not really.
joe rogan
Speak for yourself.
brendan schaub
Dude, look at these fucking...
What fucking school is this?
joe rogan
Dirty bitch school.
bryan callen
They're gorgeous.
brendan schaub
God damn it.
unidentified
Not in Denver, Colorado.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's a lot of hot ones, man.
A lot of hot ones.
bryan callen
Free them!
Free them!
joe rogan
You know, also, a lot of these guys, they're like really good at seducing older women.
bryan callen
And they're good-looking dudes, probably.
joe rogan
Young, handsome fella.
brendan schaub
She's 25-year-old, had sex with an 18-year-old.
I don't see a problem with it.
bryan callen
Me neither.
joe rogan
If he's 18?
Was he 18?
brendan schaub
Yeah, he's 18. Having sex with an 18-year-old male student.
joe rogan
How is that even illegal?
brendan schaub
She's a Spanish teacher.
joe rogan
The age of consent in Texas is 18. The age of consent, it says 18, but a law forbidding teachers from having sexual relationships with students regardless of their age.
Whatever.
Quit your job, bitch.
bryan callen
Suck this dick.
Grand jury refused to find her guilty.
Grand jury refused to find her guilty, though.
unidentified
It's all good.
Yeah, for sure stop teaching Spanish and just go suck his dick.
joe rogan
She's only seven years older than him.
He's probably giving that good 18-year-old dick.
brendan schaub
Just cardio for days.
Hard as a diamond.
joe rogan
Can't even believe he's fucking trying his Spanish.
Do you imagine, do you remember things that you would do when you were like a young teenager where you couldn't even believe you were doing them while you were doing them?
Is this real life?
Yeah.
Like the first time I had an actual sexual relationship with a girlfriend, I remember like we would be having sex and be like, is this what I, is this real life?
unidentified
Me too.
We really get to have sex?
brendan schaub
Yeah, you'd be like, holy fuck, is that my dick in her mouth?
bryan callen
It's in her mouth!
unidentified
My dick is in her mouth!
I've thought about this for 18 years!
I'm coming in her mouth right now!
bryan callen
When I was 16, I had sex with an older girl, and I was like, this is unbelievable.
And I would come and stay hard.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's crazy that you get used to it.
You get used to it.
It's like, yeah, we're going to have sex.
brendan schaub
Just like anything.
joe rogan
It becomes normal.
brendan schaub
It becomes normal.
joe rogan
You know, there's only one time in my entire life where my ears rang when I came.
And that was when I was in high school.
My girlfriend at the time blew me on a porch.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
We're on a porch.
She blew me up.
brendan schaub
That's aggressive.
joe rogan
And I changed the shape of her head when I came in from her mouth.
Her head became like one of those Peruvian children that they find.
They've had their fucking head clamped in one of those skull-shaping machines.
unidentified
She looked like Doug.
joe rogan
I can't believe how hard I came.
And my ears went...
brendan schaub
The ultimate orgasm?
joe rogan
And I remember thinking, whoa, is this going to happen every time?
Is she okay?
brendan schaub
Were you like, are you okay?
joe rogan
To this day, I'm 48 years old.
This happened probably when I was 16. To this day, I think, man, if I just don't jerk off for a couple weeks, maybe I can get back there again.
brendan schaub
You're trying to get back to that super soaker cum?
joe rogan
I don't have the willpower.
bryan callen
You want to be young forever.
joe rogan
I can quit gluten.
I can get on that primal diet.
No keto.
I'm not going to stop shooting loads.
brendan schaub
No way.
joe rogan
I guess I'm just not.
bryan callen
No.
joe rogan
You know what the problem is?
It becomes too confusing.
It's like the same way I feel about exercise.
Like if someone said, I'll give you 10 million bucks if you don't exercise for a year.
brendan schaub
I can't do it.
joe rogan
I'd go, you can fucking keep your 10 million bucks.
I'm not going to have a year of suffering just for some money that I'm going to spend.
brendan schaub
I'd be miserable, yeah.
joe rogan
I can't do it.
And I feel the same way about jerking off.
I think in a lot of ways, jerking off is like a type of exercise because it exercises your reproductive system so it's not constantly ramped up.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
You know, I've always felt like there's a lot of confusion that comes with being horny.
brendan schaub
There's these guys on the couch right on the sweats.
Yeah, Rogan!
Fucking tell them, man!
It's exercise!
joe rogan
Do it, brother!
brendan schaub
Fucking yeah, man!
joe rogan
We're all in this together!
brendan schaub
It's exercise!
It's so good for you!
I fucking told you, mom!
joe rogan
You gotta come.
You gotta get it out of your body because if you don't, it pulls up and then your body starts getting desperate.
brendan schaub
And lowers your testosterone.
joe rogan
Not only that, your mind starts getting desperate.
I remember I went on a dry spell when I was just out of high school.
I was a fucking complete total loser from 17 to like 18. That's a long time.
Dude, I was a fucking loser.
I didn't have nothing going on.
unidentified
Couldn't get laid.
brendan schaub
No money, couldn't get laid.
joe rogan
No, I had no money at all.
No girl didn't give a fuck about Taekwondo.
brendan schaub
You were just wheel kicking and jacking off.
joe rogan
That's all I was doing, and I was so sad.
I couldn't get laid.
unidentified
Damn.
joe rogan
I could not get laid.
It took forever.
And when I did get laid, I finally did get laid after six months.
I didn't even stick it in.
I like barely got in.
I was like, whoa!
bryan callen
Yep.
joe rogan
And I just was like, God, what a fucking loser I am.
But I remember the desperate feeling, like the desperate nature of it.
And then I started regularly beating off.
Like that's when I started regularly beating off.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because I was just like, I had a girlfriend when I was like 16. I swear to God, I got laid before I beat off.
And people think that's a lie.
It is not a lie.
brendan schaub
That is weird, though.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
bryan callen
I started beating off when I was five, and I'm not kidding.
joe rogan
I wish I knew about it.
Nobody talked to me.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
I wish I figured out, like, oh, you get some Vaseline, and you fuck, woo, this is great.
bryan callen
Vaseline?
Not me.
As a kid, I used to rub it into the bed.
unidentified
Vaseline?
joe rogan
That's all I had at the time.
brendan schaub
You want that waterproof dick.
joe rogan
I like it looks freshly waxed.
brendan schaub
Yeah, it's just...
Clean, fucking...
Dude, I remember being at maybe 5th or 6th grade and just having a boner in my sweats.
Just being like, how do I get rid of this thing?
I had no idea.
bryan callen
I was hiking and happening to me today.
brendan schaub
You're just pulsating.
Just fucking jerk me.
Jerk me.
bryan callen
It's happening to me now when I'm hiking and I'm thinking about something dirty and all of a sudden I'm like, if somebody walks by me right now, I'm going to be a lone guy on a trail with a heart on me.
brendan schaub
They say guys think of sex every three seconds.
joe rogan
Some girls do too.
There's a lot of freak girls out there.
Me too, bitch.
But um my point being that like one of my problems was I wasn't jerking off so I was desperate.
bryan callen
That's crazy.
joe rogan
I was desperate.
brendan schaub
You're probably uber aggressive too.
joe rogan
I smelled of desperation.
I'm sure I was pathetic.
brendan schaub
The girls could smell it.
joe rogan
Nah man, I was a loser.
I was a loser.
I was living with my parents.
I didn't have a future.
brendan schaub
Just throwing wheel kicks.
joe rogan
I had nothing going on.
I'd won the state championships like one year.
I might not have even won it then because I first won it when I was 18. So I had no real accomplishments.
bryan callen
I remember those days, you're lost.
brendan schaub
So who was the girl who was like, yeah, I'll suck your dick, Joe.
joe rogan
Well, she's had sex with me.
I don't think she blew me.
She jerked me off a couple times before we actually had sex sex.
brendan schaub
And where'd you meet her?
joe rogan
Local girl.
She was from the town.
Yeah, her name was Donna.
brendan schaub
Nice girl.
Because now kids can go on Instagram, Facebook, right?
So much easier.
It's so much easier to get chicks now.
It's also way more dangerous.
It's way more dangerous.
But back in the day, especially when you were a kid, it was just, you know, you met the girl and it's whatever.
joe rogan
If a girl had herpes, boy, they put a red flag on her.
They made her walk around with a flag.
Like, people knew.
People knew when people had things.
bryan callen
Tinder now, Tinder.
brendan schaub
It's like, I see these guys on Bumble and Twitter.
If a hot girl can go, I like that guy, DM. God damn, son!
joe rogan
Yeah, if you want to get laid today and you're a guy, all you have to do is have a phone.
And you have to be, like, not totally disgusting.
Or have really low standards.
bryan callen
Or be 49 with two kids and a wife.
joe rogan
What?
brendan schaub
That can make it tough.
joe rogan
That's a little bit of a roadblock.
You gotta learn about Russians.
bryan callen
Yeah, but then you worry too.
joe rogan
No, you go to Russia.
You just go on vacation and you come back.
brendan schaub
Or Costa Rica.
joe rogan
Or Thailand.
Go to Costa Rica.
brendan schaub
Try not getting your dick sucked.
Even when you don't want to.
joe rogan
Try not to?
brendan schaub
Yes.
Good luck.
joe rogan
They just do it?
brendan schaub
It's what they do.
It's what they do.
bryan callen
It's cultural.
You can't be rude.
joe rogan
You are misappropriating blowjob culture from other countries.
You're an asshole, third world, whatever.
bryan callen
Were they drunk?
joe rogan
Indigenous people.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
Got to say all the key buzzwords.
brendan schaub
Sorry.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I don't know what you're talking about, but I believe you.
brendan schaub
One day.
joe rogan
One day.
One day we'll all be single and free.
bryan callen
That's right.
joe rogan
Old as fucking girls.
brendan schaub
We should not get a timeshare, dude.
The three of us.
joe rogan
The three of us.
bryan callen
Hey, the house of wrinkles, girls.
Come on over.
joe rogan
Well, there's going to be some massive breakthroughs.
bryan callen
You think so?
joe rogan
I know so.
I know there's a massive breakthrough.
The same guy who came up with Regenikine is working on right now.
That's going to regenerate collagen in your body.
bryan callen
Yeah.
joe rogan
In a crazy way where it's going to eliminate wrinkles.
Come on.
brendan schaub
So we'll never age?
joe rogan
Well, you're going to age.
You're going to fucking die.
You're just going to look good when you're dead.
brendan schaub
That's awesome.
joe rogan
Yeah, but if you can keep your muscle structure and then they shoot that fucking shit in your body that regenerates collagen.
brendan schaub
How long are we thinking?
joe rogan
Well, you don't know because there's all sorts of different things they're constantly working on.
So what we're talking about is what they have in 2016. What they have in 2016 will be unrecognizable in 2026 because it'll be on such a higher level.
It's all exponential because every single invention and every single technological breakthrough and every single medical breakthrough, they all converge together and they all build on each other.
New technological breakthroughs make new medical breakthroughs possible.
New understanding of the body makes new designs and new things.
And then there's going to be all sorts of different, like they just came up with some fucking lens that they're installing in people that is allowing people that weren't able to see before.
Now they can see and have some new stem cell operations.
bryan callen
They've done on people.
joe rogan
Oh my God.
They're doing, what they're doing now is like just the tip of the iceberg.
If we could just stay alive, if humans, I mean as a race, can stay alive for the next thousand years, what are we going to be like?
bryan callen
We'll outdate this machinery.
This biological machinery that we live in now.
brendan schaub
Well you guys better hope the next 50 years they come up with some shit.
joe rogan
Or not, man.
brendan schaub
You guys got about 50 years.
joe rogan
In the next 50 years.
I don't know if you really want to be on a planet where everyone can breed and no one dies.
bryan callen
Well not only that, follow this.
What if you can download all the information in your brain?
brendan schaub
You have to start killing people like pigs.
bryan callen
So what does it say about accomplishment?
If you could download like how to be everything you wanted to be.
If you could take a program.
joe rogan
Did you see that recently?
bryan callen
No.
You haven't seen that?
No.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
Pull that up, Jamie.
brendan schaub
What?
joe rogan
Scientists have figured out a way.
They are very confident that they're going to be able to download skills into your brain.
brendan schaub
That fucks us.
joe rogan
Like the fucking Matrix.
brendan schaub
Ah, that fucks us.
joe rogan
They're going to be able to download information and skills into your brain.
brendan schaub
They're no one special anymore.
joe rogan
Well, not only is no one special, no one's going to look any different.
Everyone's going to look like fucking John Cena.
brendan schaub
Oh, I don't want to be around for that.
I don't want to be around for that.
bryan callen
What is that end like?
unidentified
What is that?
joe rogan
Thighs for wrists?
bryan callen
But I have to believe that there's a reason we're being nudged in that direction.
joe rogan
Scientists discover how to upload knowledge to your brain.
brendan schaub
Look at this poor girl as the guinea pig.
joe rogan
Strap in, folks.
Strap in.
I mean, we're just at the beginning of this thing.
This is nuts, man.
Everything that's in the Matrix is all gonna be true.
Artificial reality, whether or not it's gonna take over the world like the Matrix, we're all gonna be locked into some fucking machine that feeds off your spine.
That's probably not gonna happen, but what is definitely gonna happen is virtual reality is gonna be indistinguishable from regular reality.
brendan schaub
I always leave scared when we do these podcasts.
joe rogan
It's not scary, but it's fascinating.
It's fascinating.
But here's the thing.
Here's why he shouldn't be scared.
Because anybody who's ever lived ever, at any time, you can go back to Rome and grab Julius Caesar and take him to 2016. He would be like...
unidentified
You gotta be fucking shitting me.
joe rogan
Any guy who lived the best life in the world hundreds of years ago or a thousand years ago would be nothing in comparison today.
If you had to go back, okay?
If you had to go back and you had to live in Leonardo da Vinci's town...
You'd want to fucking climb up on top of a windmill and jump the fuck off.
You'd be like, what?
I'm going to eat this shitty bread and we're all going to die of polio?
bryan callen
Get ready for the smallpox epidemic.
joe rogan
Or anything.
Anytime a rat's in town, everybody has to run.
The fucking fleas.
You've got to figure out a way to not die.
bryan callen
You didn't even know that it was...
That.
joe rogan
They didn't know anything.
There was witch's curses and shit.
They didn't know what the fuck was going on.
brendan schaub
Or you could go back and be awesome.
joe rogan
You could.
If you knew what you know now.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's true.
brendan schaub
I start drawing shit.
bryan callen
But human beings will evolve with their technology.
brendan schaub
Like, oh shit, you heard of shop?
Yeah.
joe rogan
Know what you would do.
You would go back and start, you know, one day we would have a thing called a microwave oven.
And they'd say, he's a witch.
Light him on fire.
brendan schaub
Yeah, they might kill me.
bryan callen
That's why they fought with swords, too.
And you had to be a badass.
I don't know if it favors a big man.
It favors the fastest guy.
Swords are no joke.
joe rogan
Swords definitely don't favor a big person.
They favor someone who's strong enough to swing the sword as fast as possible.
It's probably like a weight that you...
There's like a point of diminishing returns probably with sword fighting.
bryan callen
It's pretty final, sword fighting.
brendan schaub
It's not so final.
bryan callen
You don't walk away from a bloody throat.
brendan schaub
There's no ERs back then.
joe rogan
But what's interesting is Musashi was a big man.
Miyamoto Bonsashi was not a small man.
unidentified
How big?
joe rogan
He was thick.
Well, it's hard to tell.
Because, you know, what they measured, I mean, I think they probably didn't use inches.
I mean, I don't know what the fuck they used.
bryan callen
He's described as being, I think, like, thick, though.
Like, big, big balls.
joe rogan
You know how small people were, though?
You know, we had a president, I forget which president, but he was 5'4", and he weighed 100 pounds.
bryan callen
Was it Taft?
joe rogan
I think it might have been Taft.
brendan schaub
No, Taft was big.
joe rogan
Taff was a big giant.
brendan schaub
Taff was the big fat guy.
Because when I made funny saying there's no fat presidents, people sent me pictures of Taff.
joe rogan
So I was reading this book with my kid the other day.
And it's all about presidents and weird facts about presidents.
But one of the guys was 100 pounds.
So he's half my size.
That's like a hobbit.
brendan schaub
Running the fucking...
joe rogan
That's like Christy Mack.
bryan callen
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Well, I doubt he has that ass.
joe rogan
She's probably like 110. Smallest U.S. president.
He's 5'4".
100 pounds.
Smallest U.S. president.
Who was it?
unidentified
James Madison.
bryan callen
I should have known that.
joe rogan
I didn't even know he was president until I was reading my daughter's book.
bryan callen
Madison was one of the authors of the Federalist Papers.
joe rogan
How many presidents can you name?
I can name maybe five.
brendan schaub
Maybe five to ten?
bryan callen
Who is our third president?
joe rogan
Some douchebag.
bryan callen
Jefferson.
joe rogan
Okay, how about Lincoln?
Was he 16?
bryan callen
Yep.
joe rogan
George Washington was number one.
Who's number two?
Nobody gives a fuck because nobody cares about number two.
He's the first loser.
bryan callen
It's Alexander Hamilton.
joe rogan
It doesn't work that way.
He doesn't work that way.
bryan callen
He's not a loser.
It was Alexander Hamilton.
joe rogan
He was a winner.
He was a new president.
bryan callen
James Madison.
Wait, it was Alexander Hamilton, Jefferson, Washington, Hamilton, Jefferson.
brendan schaub
Didn't you major in history?
joe rogan
You know who we really dismiss for one-term presidents?
Wasn't Hamilton the guy that was terrible?
He was getting all his fucking friends jobs and he was really corrupt and literally wound up saying, I'm not fit for this job.
bryan callen
I don't think it was Hamilton.
brendan schaub
He sounds pretty awesome.
joe rogan
No, you're right.
It wasn't Hamilton.
It was someone else.
Find out whose quote was that?
I was not fit for this job.
One of the presidents.
Harding?
bryan callen
Harding was considered...
I think it was Harding was considered the worst president because he was very handsome.
He was very good looking.
I think it was Warren Harding.
I think it was Warren Harding.
And he was very handsome, but he was a bad president.
He just was not a very smart guy.
I think he looked really presidential.
brendan schaub
How about...
I heard JFK was just a fucking ladies man.
joe rogan
Did you hear that?
brendan schaub
3,000.
That's weird.
joe rogan
You really heard that?
brendan schaub
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
Yes.
Hey...
brendan schaub
Hey, this is breaking news.
Along with taking McGregor down, JFK got some bitches.
bryan callen
Did you ever see his medical records and what a physical wreck he was?
unidentified
Oh, really?
bryan callen
Treated for gonorrhea, treated for all kinds of stuff.
joe rogan
Yeah, it was Andrew Jackson.
bryan callen
Wow.
Jackson was a guy who essentially was considered, first of all, he'd seen a lot of battle.
He'd killed a lot of Native Americans.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
This is the wrong quote.
This is the wrong quote.
That's not...
Andrew Jackson was talking about being a great general and not being a great president.
bryan callen
He had been shot in a duel and he had a hole in his lung that would perforate at times.
brendan schaub
I'm obsessed with JFK. JFK had gonorrhea and all sorts of shit.
bryan callen
Oh, yeah.
He had terrible back problems.
He was on so many drugs.
Look it up.
The New York Times ran a whole thing on it.
I couldn't believe his medical...
joe rogan
What was his back issue?
brendan schaub
From partying or what?
bryan callen
He had a...
I think it was a congenital...
joe rogan
He fucked his back out.
This fucking dude just kept going.
brendan schaub
He just kept going.
We need to celebrate this guy.
bryan callen
He wore a brace.
He wore a body brace under his suit.
brendan schaub
From what though?
bryan callen
And he had to be in pools.
He had some kind of degenerative disease, I think, of the back.
brendan schaub
Well, you threw out gonorrhea and herpes and stuff too.
bryan callen
And he was treated for gonorrhea.
If you look at his medical records, it's pretty unbelievable.
joe rogan
When they treated you for gonorrhea, did they even get it back then?
bryan callen
Penicillin, I think?
brendan schaub
A type of penicillin?
joe rogan
What kind of lab tests did they do back then?
bryan callen
It's pretty easy to cure.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bryan callen
With antibiotics.
joe rogan
Who knows what kind of shit this guy had.
Well, diseases are weird, man, because occasionally diseases come along and they're not exactly sure what you have.
Then they have to ask, where you been?
Where'd you go?
And then they have to try to sort of narrow it down and test for a bunch of different things.
bryan callen
Well, they say this is an urban myth, but the guy emailed this story to me where the girl goes to the doctor.
She's got a rash on her face.
The doctor's like, what is going on here?
He couldn't figure out a dozen sample.
Comes up and goes, can I ask you a question?
He goes, you have necritis on your face.
You have a bacteria that you get from dead bodies.
Have you been around dead bodies?
She goes, no.
And he said, where'd you go?
She goes, I was in Ireland.
Did you hook up with anybody?
She said, yeah, a guy in a bar.
He goes, do you have his number?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, blah, blah, blah.
Turns out the guy worked in a morgue.
And he was fucking...
brendan schaub
She sucked that zombie dick?
bryan callen
And she sucked his dick.
I was told that's an urban myth, but this is what the guy emailed me and told me the story.
brendan schaub
Jesus Christ.
bryan callen
It's a good story if it's true.
joe rogan
Well, let's go further.
Then she started time traveling and went back to the time before she did it.
And then there became two of her, and the two of her plotted to take over the world.
He's just making shit up at this point.
brendan schaub
Very possible.
bryan callen
We don't know.
joe rogan
We don't know.
bryan callen
It's a good story, though, right?
joe rogan
It's a good story, but you've got to Google these things.
bryan callen
No, I've got it right here.
joe rogan
Get on your goddamn phone.
brendan schaub
It makes sense.
bryan callen
Hey, get your phone.
brendan schaub
Get your phone.
joe rogan
Hold it far away from you so we can use our...
My eyes are so bad now.
They're so good at, like, this distance.
They're perfect.
brendan schaub
But then your phone...
joe rogan
Oh, right here.
brendan schaub
You're always like...
joe rogan
Yeah, lucky I don't have to read my own fingerprints.
I don't know what the fuck's going on here.
It's just a pink bludge.
brendan schaub
Story's kind of legit though.
Makes sense.
joe rogan
Sort of.
Sort of makes sense.
brendan schaub
I can see it happening.
joe rogan
It makes sense that dead bodies would have bacteria on them that would be eating the dead body.
And if you had any sort of an infection or a cut.
brendan schaub
On your mouth.
joe rogan
Or you didn't wash and it got into your system.
bryan callen
Sure.
joe rogan
That makes sense.
brendan schaub
Who fucks dead bodies?
joe rogan
Oh, a lot of people.
Yeah, it's been a real problem many, many times in funeral homes.
bryan callen
Yes, I told you my acting teacher, right, when he came out, his mother died.
He told the story.
His mother dies, fucking goes to see her body in the morgue, and the guy's coming out, putting his pants on, sweating.
And he looked at the guy, and the guy looked at him, and he goes...
You fucked my mother.
He didn't say it, but he knew it.
He never said anything.
The guy just ran out.
brendan schaub
Oh, I beat the fuck out of that guy.
bryan callen
And he just went, fuck that guy.
joe rogan
Why didn't he go check his mom's box?
bryan callen
He did.
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
He did?
bryan callen
Well, I don't know if he checked her box.
joe rogan
You gotta check the box.
brendan schaub
You gotta check that ass.
bryan callen
Let me pull out my kit.
brendan schaub
Can you imagine?
bryan callen
Let me put my kit out.
brendan schaub
You'd have to kill someone.
Well, maybe.
bryan callen
And by the way, I don't think you do jail time for that.
You would get a fine for it.
unidentified
Oh, no.
brendan schaub
You go in jail, son.
unidentified
No, no, no.
No.
bryan callen
Huh?
You're going to jail.
There's a law about mishandling a dead body, but it's not really...
brendan schaub
There you go.
joe rogan
It's a legend.
It's been told over and over again for a long time.
There you go.
brendan schaub
For many of you.
joe rogan
Scroll down and see if there's any possibility.
See, scroll down, blah, blah, blah.
Oh, these are the same emails over and over and over again.
brendan schaub
Sounds like the girl got herpes from whatever reason and started fucking making stuff up.
joe rogan
There's certain things that are supposed to be urban mess, but you find out they're true.
bryan callen
Charles Manson endorsing Trump is not false.
joe rogan
Who cares what Charles Manson endorses?
You know what's weird?
The Trump guys who are putting fucking SS-style bands around their arms.
Have you seen this shit?
bryan callen
No, can't do that.
joe rogan
These idiots are taking bumper stickers, Trump bumper stickers, and they're wrapping them around their arms like Hitler arm bands.
brendan schaub
Jesus, man.
That's a bad look.
joe rogan
White people just get so wacky.
brendan schaub
Fucking white people, man.
joe rogan
You know what it is?
White people are a lot like the economy, the economy cyclical.
White people are on an upswing.
Right now, they're on an upswing with Trump.
brendan schaub
Everything was all good.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Look at these guys.
brendan schaub
Okay.
joe rogan
Look at these dipshits.
brendan schaub
That's not good.
joe rogan
These guys have fucking bumper stickers around their arm like Trump is the new Hitler.
bryan callen
Eh, it's kind of macho.
joe rogan
No, oh my god, it's not a bumper sticker!
brendan schaub
Some real Nazi shit.
joe rogan
Oh, it says mostly false.
jamie vernon
I actually found this on Snopes without even knowing it was on Snopes.
joe rogan
Okay, just two guys.
Two young women were photographed wearing Nazi-style arms.
Okay, you know what?
They probably wanted us to talk to them.
Okay, what's false?
Hold on, scroll down.
The two men were legitimate Trump supporters and the use of Nazi armbands expressed their genuine political beliefs.
brendan schaub
So they really did it.
bryan callen
What were they doing?
joe rogan
Were they joking around?
bryan callen
It doesn't mean they're Nazis.
joe rogan
What were they doing?
bryan callen
Just wearing an armband.
joe rogan
Fox News tweet, the supporters of Republican presidential, Donald Trump, spotted in Florida, rally, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Not dissimilar.
Okay, but what is it?
What's really going on?
Scroll down.
So what are they saying?
The art band was one of many invoked of Nazi imagery.
But what is it saying?
What is it saying?
How is it not true?
However, it appeared that the initial tweet was sent without much verification as to whether Trump armbands were a legitimate campaign memorabilia sported unironically by dutiful supporters of the GOP presidential hopeful.
Not long after the image hit Twitter, hard users began pointing out that the Trump supporters looked awfully familiar.
So who are they?
Oh, they're jokes.
They're comedians.
Oh, they're comics.
Political pranksters.
brendan schaub
Oh, they're just trying to fuck it.
They win.
joe rogan
They got us.
Well, now we know.
Well played.
People were sending that today, and I was like, what?
Did you see when they grew a fucking dinosaur leg on a chicken?
unidentified
What?
brendan schaub
A real dinosaur leg?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Goddammit.
Jurassic Park is gonna fucking happen.
unidentified
And I will be the first one there.
brendan schaub
I will be the first one there to see T-Rex.
joe rogan
You are the ultimate American consumer.
You'll be there with fresh Yeezys on.
But yeah!
A new hairdo.
unidentified
What?
Look at this.
bryan callen
Synthetic DNA. You're going to create your own animal from your own imagination.
joe rogan
Scientists have grown dinosaur legs on a chicken for the first time.
What in the fuck?
brendan schaub
What the fuck?
joe rogan
How about you guys cure cancer?
unidentified
Yeah!
joe rogan
How about you figure out a way to get salt out of the ocean, you assholes?
Stop making dinosaurs!
bryan callen
It's all part of it.
brendan schaub
I hope you help the ozone.
Fuck a chicken with a dinosaur.
bryan callen
It's all part of it.
joe rogan
It is all part of it, right?
unidentified
Of course.
joe rogan
We shouldn't expect these guys to make better cell phones.
They have a different field of study.
brendan schaub
They're not about that life.
They're about chickens and dinosaurs.
bryan callen
They're not about that life!
joe rogan
Yo, I ain't about that, bro.
brendan schaub
I ain't about that, bro.
joe rogan
I'm about making dino legs on some pigeons and shit.
unidentified
Dino legs.
brendan schaub
It's so ridiculous.
That's someone's job.
joe rogan
Dude, I'll tell you, when you watch chickens eat, you realize they're just dinosaurs.
They're just little.
They're little dinosaurs.
They can't kill you, so they just deal with you.
bryan callen
When they can make dick cells, how big do you think guys are going to get?
joe rogan
No one is going to have a little dick anymore, that's for sure.
bryan callen
That's for sure.
joe rogan
No one's just going to say, I'm pro to my natural dick.
bryan callen
But how big are you going to get?
How big is your dick going to get?
Guys get weird.
brendan schaub
Without having surgery?
Like you just inject my dick?
bryan callen
Yeah, if you can gene dope or whatever it is.
I'll take four inches.
joe rogan
CRISPR. They're gonna use CRISPR. Yeah, CRISPR's badass.
Yeah, your dick's gonna be at least a foot long, and girls' pussies are gonna grow.
I had a whole bit about this.
If they did come up with big dick pills, like those commercials that Ron Jeremy used to sell at 3 o'clock in the morning, if it was real, if those pills really did make your dick bigger, it would be about 30 seconds before the first guy died of an overdose.
I'm like, because no one's taking one pill.
brendan schaub
Hell, we always overdo.
joe rogan
How many gives me a stroke?
And the problem is, dicks would be so big, the vaginas would grow too, because people would still have to breed and they would evolve.
They'd have to adapt.
I said they would turn into giant flying squirrel pussy people.
They would just be able to, dudes with big dicks, they'd have them in shopping carts, they'd be chasing these girls to the top of cliffs, and the women would just leap to safety.
Like flying squirrels.
Open their pussy up like a giant flying squirrel.
Imagine what kind of weird shapes people are going to come into.
Like, now, what we're dealing with now is people that are starting to explore the possibility of modifying their body with tattoos or with piercings or weird shit.
But once you can change the shape...
brendan schaub
You know, you're gonna lose the funny, you're gonna lose, you know, personality and people.
Yeah, it's not good, man.
bryan callen
I think people have variety, though, just because everybody has a different idea of what's beautiful.
Everybody has a different idea of what they want.
joe rogan
Someone's gonna want to be the Hulk.
bryan callen
You might have more variety.
brendan schaub
What guy's gonna be like, no, I want to be 5'1", man.
I like having a little dick.
I want to keep these tits and small dick.
joe rogan
I want to look like Madison.
bryan callen
You'll have less people who are longing for something, right?
If you have an ability and the money...
brendan schaub
If it's fake, yeah.
bryan callen
But there'll still be people left out because it's going to cost money.
joe rogan
Do you think it'll be like reading?
You know, like it used to be a long time ago that reading was a luxury that very few people could read.
bryan callen
And they couldn't afford books.
joe rogan
Right, now pretty much everybody could read, anybody could get books, and not only that, you can get so much off the internet that's free.
Like, you can get, your access to information today is better than it's ever been before.
brendan schaub
Yeah, fuck a library.
joe rogan
What if your access to changing your body will follow a similar path?
bryan callen
It doesn't mean we'll be happier, and it doesn't mean that we'll be more fulfilled, I would imagine.
I think the responsibility of creating your own fulfillment will still remain.
unidentified
100%.
joe rogan
And that's, they can make artificial happiness.
brendan schaub
God damn it, Joe.
joe rogan
The problem is, like, what?
bryan callen
That'd be like being on drugs, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, the problem is what is happening is really based on.
brendan schaub
You're talking about ecstasy now, aren't you?
joe rogan
I'm talking about ecstasy all day.
If you were just rolling all day, but no negative repercussions.
bryan callen
Can't get shit done?
Art wouldn't be created, right?
joe rogan
Who needs art when you get your dick sucked while you're on ecstasy on a roller coaster?
brendan schaub
That's the art, son!
joe rogan
How about you fly like an eagle?
unidentified
You guys are fucking godless, you know?
bryan callen
Godless fucks.
joe rogan
My god is CRISPR. That's the new god.
bryan callen
Because we're controlling our own evolution.
joe rogan
I wonder, man.
I wonder what it's going to look like.
I mean, it's going to change.
It's not going to just...
No one's ever going to go, hey, everybody, let's just go camping.
Let's stop all this.
bryan callen
Right.
joe rogan
We're not going to do that.
Those dudes that are growing dinosaur legs and chickens...
bryan callen
But the satisfaction...
brendan schaub
I wish I had a friend who was doing that.
bryan callen
The satisfaction you get from overcoming the impossible...
joe rogan
It's almost as good as learning Kung Fu in The Matrix.
That's actually better.
brendan schaub
But if someone can take the shortcut, don't you think the masses, if they can take the shortcut to doing that, they're not going to put the work in?
joe rogan
If I can download it?
bryan callen
What I'm saying is that there may be shortcuts in certain areas, but we'll still have challenges.
joe rogan
I hope you're right, Brian.
bryan callen
Yeah, so if you're really good at something, if you're really good at whatever you want to be, I wonder if...
For example, what I like about tennis, what you like about archery, what you like about boxing, whatever it is, is the repetition and the state it puts you in and the slow attrition of a skill set is immensely satisfying, right?
I wonder if you can just do it right away.
I wonder if all the fun goes away.
joe rogan
That's a very good point.
brendan schaub
It's no more a mystery.
It's not a mystery.
You're not learning anything.
bryan callen
Because when you're hitting a ball really well or you're boxing really well one day and you know you go...
You have a goal.
Yeah, and you go, today I hit it.
And if you don't have something to compare that to, I think what happens is you end up being generally copacetic.
joe rogan
Probably.
bryan callen
And I wonder what it says about happiness.
brendan schaub
I would download skateboarding.
Just a big ass dude skateboarding like Tony Hawk.
joe rogan
I think who you are right now is based on what our ideas are right now about what people want and what people need and what makes us happy.
One of the things that makes us happy is overcoming adversity, trying to figure out puzzles, trying to set goals and accomplishing Beating the odds.
Setting goals and accomplishing them is one of the biggest sources of happiness.
One of the things that people say, like if you really want to be happy, you should have projects and you should set goals and you should try to accomplish those.
And for whatever reason, it's probably just some deep-seated evolutionary reason, something that's in our DNA. We have this desire to achieve things.
And when we do achieve them, it gives us this feeling of happiness.
And if you don't do that, like the most regretful, sorrowful, depressed people rarely set goals and rarely achieve those set goals.
For whatever reason, whether or not to create- And they hate on others who are trying to achieve those goals.
So what it is, what we're doing kind of, is like some sort of a weird balancing act with our ancient primate minds, right?
So our ancient primate minds which wanted to survive, they wanted to gather food, they wanted to figure out things like, how do I catch this fish?
How do I start a fire?
And all these different desires that we had to both breed, protect our territory, overcome...
And they manifest themselves as like rewards.
And these human rewards are in our system.
And we intrinsically link those rewards in this system to life.
And this is the only way to live.
And this is the way we live because we've always lived like this.
But if we can completely...
Remove ourselves from the biological process.
Completely remove ourselves from the lust and the greed and the...
What do we become?
And is that actually a better way to live?
bryan callen
It's a good question, but I think that you have to add another dimension to what you said, which is, yes, there is that evolutionary notion of reward that creates a feeling of, for example, safety and whatever it might be.
But I wonder also if...
The other reason that we seem to have this need to get better at something, like just say the violin or whatever it might be, I think that there's another thing that happens to you when you get really good at something, when you develop a deep skill.
I think you get a better understanding of you.
Like you come closer to who you truly are in your essence.
The notion that when you do something for the sake of its own doing, which would be considered play, That's how you would define probably play.
That's when you are the most authentic and truly yourself.
Yeah, and I feel like human beings not only have a nostalgia, like a built-in nostalgia to try to find who they were originally, but I think also, it's just my general idea that...
I wonder if, because the internet is bringing us all together, and we're getting a deeper understanding of what it is to be each other, in one way or another, and pretty soon if you can download not only information, but what it's like to be Joe Rogan into my brain.
Well, if that's bringing us all together, then I wonder if the end goal is something in the area of deep self-knowledge and deep knowledge, deep human knowledge, sort of this, creating this neural net so we are all, sorry for the word, one, you know?
That seems to be...
brendan schaub
I don't know if that's a good thing.
bryan callen
That spiritual dimension, that thing that's hard to measure, Has always existed in human beings.
We somehow always want, and I think it's where religion comes from, where inspiration comes from, we seem to always want to reach beyond ourselves.
joe rogan
What is that about?
brendan schaub
You think that's always going to be there, no matter what?
joe rogan
I don't think it's always going to be there.
I don't think it's going to be there if we're operating inside of the biological parameters that we currently have to operate inside of.
brendan schaub
You're saying if we can get out of there.
bryan callen
That mystery will be taken away from us.
joe rogan
What if they can eliminate greed?
What if the instinct of greed can be located in our genome and can be eliminated?
bryan callen
I don't know if that's good, because greed might be...
joe rogan
Exactly.
It might be valuable.
brendan schaub
Creates greatness a lot of times.
joe rogan
Jealousy might be valuable, too.
bryan callen
Greed also may be that primordial need to amass as much food and as much safety and as much power so that you stay alive.
joe rogan
Yes.
bryan callen
The one thing we know is that human beings across the board love one thing above all, and that is immortality.
joe rogan
They want to live forever.
What I'm thinking is a lot of our ideas of what was valuable and what we want and what we need and what is just part of life, a lot of those ideas are only based on the current model of human that exists.
bryan callen
Exactly.
joe rogan
When they start manipulating shit and downloading new thoughts in your mind, do you want to go fucking meditate in an ashram for 10 years and sweep up and just om all day in the corner?
Or how about they just press a button and shoot some shit straight into your brain and you could read minds?
You're going to take that.
You're going to take instant enlightenment.
You're going to take...
The ability to transcend all of our biological impulses, including the dumb ones, like self-doubt and hate and jealousy.
brendan schaub
God, we're not human anymore.
joe rogan
Exactly.
bryan callen
That's the real thing.
You can even, like Ray Kurzweil, who created this sort of movement of Kurzweilists, the notion that, all right, we all say we're going to die.
We all know human beings have one goal.
It's to stay alive forever.
It's why we do great work and we want it to live on.
We have children.
That's why we're so attached to our children.
joe rogan
But that's not necessarily true, because we do because we enjoy it while we're doing it.
bryan callen
Well, that too.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
bryan callen
100%.
joe rogan
I don't think you have kids thinking you're going to live on.
I don't think you make a compliment.
You don't make a painting, no, this will go on forever.
You have this idea in your head and you want to express yourself.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
bryan callen
Yeah, I agree with you on that, but I just think that overall, if you looked at the general...
Over overarching sort of desire and need in a human being.
It's probably we all want to live forever.
We don't want to die.
joe rogan
Well, I think it's just a fear of death.
unidentified
Yeah, it's more of a fear because that's on my list because we all know we're going to die.
bryan callen
But follow this.
So if we can download our essence, if I could download everything that's in your brain, your memories and your paradigm, your thought paradigm, whatever the words are, and then I could put that into a computer.
Or a robot.
Yeah, then you kind of keep living forever in a way, right?
joe rogan
When you change like whatever you are if they download you and put you in a computer Are they gonna have all your flaws?
Is it gonna be filled with all your insecurities?
Is it gonna be a liar?
Imagine the computer becomes a liar Imagine if the computer develops its own insecurities and it changes who you are and starts going down its own weird emotional paths.
Those are programmed in.
No, most likely you're going to program something where they're going to probably have to differentiate between What you are and what you love and what your memories are and all the negative stuff.
bryan callen
Well, part of what makes you great and your essence, in my opinion, all three of us, and I don't know Jamie well enough, but I'm sure, is our reaction.
A big part of our personalities, in my opinion, is a reaction to our shortcomings.
Is the compensation, the measures we've taken to compensate for our Limitations.
joe rogan
Well, not just that.
Your experiences.
The trials and tribulations.
The failures and successes.
The struggle.
The struggle defines your personality.
You show me a guy who doesn't do anything, and I'll show you a guy who can't do anything.
You show me a guy or a woman who's accomplished all sorts of things.
She can continue to accomplish things because she knows how to get shit done.
brendan schaub
She's also learned how to fail and be successful.
Anyone who's successful has failed so many times.
bryan callen
Well, that's where wisdom comes from.
Wisdom is the acknowledgement not only of your limitations, but wisdom is also knowing what to do with those limitations.
joe rogan
Until they fucking strap you to that machine and shove those fucking genius thoughts right into your dome, son.
bryan callen
Isn't that the same as being high, though, all the time?
Isn't that the same as keeping the DMT trip going forever?
joe rogan
Well, the DMT trip removes reality as we know it.
That's where it gets weird.
brendan schaub
It takes you to another dimension, right?
joe rogan
Well, we don't know that.
It certainly feels like that.
It could just be hallucinations.
It could all be going on in your head.
brendan schaub
It's the best thing I've ever done.
joe rogan
What you get from it.
I didn't tattoo it on my arm for no reason.
What you get from it is something that is exactly the same.
Like someone say, maybe it's all in your head when you trip, maybe it's not really happening.
Okay, maybe.
However, the experience is exactly the same.
If you really are going into another dimension, you really are experiencing love in its purest form and forgiveness and just love.
100% wisdom like all the bullshit and all the flaws of your thinking and all of the Ridiculous aspects of the world around you revealed in some Wonderful dance by jesters who are giving you the finger in a never-ending complex geometric pattern even if it's not real It's still the same experience.
bryan callen
Sure.
joe rogan
Like if you really do go to that dimension and you really do experience these incredibly enlightened beings and they really do instill upon you wisdom and you really do hold on to a few grains of that sand that slips through your finger, you hold on to a little bit of it while you're there.
You got handfuls, but you just hold on to a little bit.
It's still the same experience.
brendan schaub
Yeah, that shit's real, son.
bryan callen
Yeah, it's a little bit like, you know, what changed the way I... Argue is that somebody said, look, you may think that that person's point of view is shitty, or you don't have respect for it, or maybe they're acting crazy.
To them, those feelings and emotions are very real.
So if you start the argument by saying, like, that's why, if you look at, like, political discussions in this country, it's hilarious.
You get gun rights advocates, and you have gun control advocates.
The first thing they do is they go, you're a gun nut, and the other ones go, you're a bleeding heart liberal pussy.
You start the argument there and guess what?
Nobody's having a conversation anymore because you just said, I don't like you.
Atheists and religious people.
Religious people.
joe rogan
Feminazis, male rights, MRAs.
bryan callen
Yes.
You'll never have a marriage between the religious, you know, the people who are very religious and people who are strictly scientific because what happens is instead of saying that religious person is religious and he gains inspiration and a feeling that's very important to that person.
And they're going to guard that feeling because it makes them feel good about the world.
If you come in as an atheist or a scientist and say, everything about you is bullshit or that's a big fairy tale, you just shut down the debate.
You just broke that bridge.
You're never going to see anything.
You're not going to see that person for who they are.
joe rogan
You're never going to understand what they're experiencing or what they believe and what they have faith in is not real.
They still can get a tangible benefit from it.
brendan schaub
Exactly.
joe rogan
And it can improve their life.
bryan callen
And so it is real in a way, isn't it?
joe rogan
Well, it is something that they believe in to the point where it benefits them.
bryan callen
And it can create beautiful things.
Great pieces of work, art, whatever it might be.
joe rogan
Well, that's my argument about Ben Carson.
Like, Ben Carson might be a wacky dude who doesn't believe in evolution.
He's got some crazy ideas, but I like him as much as any of the other people that are running for president.
brendan schaub
Smart dude.
joe rogan
He's not just smart dude.
One of the best neurosurgeons ever, okay?
Not only that, he's...
Really measured and relaxed and calm, always, constantly.
brendan schaub
He never gets too high or too emotional.
joe rogan
Trump is yelling at someone the other day, go home and get a job!
bryan callen
This is going to be our president!
joe rogan
Go home and get a job!
And all the fucking white dudes with golf shirts on.
unidentified
Yes!
bryan callen
But where are his ideas?
Where are his ideas?
I keep looking for his ideas.
joe rogan
I'm hoping that once he becomes president, because he's going to become president, then he lets it go.
Because what Ben Carson has said about Trump that I thought was really fascinating, he says, he's remarkably reasonable when he's not on camera.
And Jeff Ross told me that, too.
brendan schaub
Because Ben's endorsing him now.
bryan callen
I don't think he's a dumb guy, and I think a lot of this might be an act.
brendan schaub
It's an act and it's working.
bryan callen
I think you may see, if he becomes president, two things.
One is, he's not an idealist.
brendan schaub
We go to war.
bryan callen
World War IV. He's not an ideologue, so he's going to do this.
I think he will approach everything as a problem to be solved, which is not a bad thing.
Secondly, don't be surprised if he surrounds himself with very competent, smart people who know more than he does.
Those are the two silver linings I can see Trump...
Coming to the table with.
I don't like the guy.
joe rogan
He breaks the system, because the system of special interest groups and the need for the campaign financing, when you get a guy like him, you really can't buy him.
brendan schaub
He doesn't benefit.
bryan callen
The problem with campaign finance reform is that with Citizens United, that Supreme Court decision, giving money Two, a political campaign is an exercise of free speech, and it was considered constitutional.
So it's very difficult to get big money out.
But what I do think will happen, and you're seeing it already with people like Bernie Sanders and even Donald Trump, is that we as citizens will go, man, you have big, deep pockets, deep political pockets, and so you must be a little corrupt at least.
I ain't voting for you.
joe rogan
Well, there's transparency, too.
There's things like CrowdPak, where you can go and find exactly who's financing people.
CrowdPak, which my friend Steve Hilton runs, you go and check out.
I mean, their website has all of the various campaign funds, all the people that are influencing people, all the special interest groups.
bryan callen
Love it.
brendan schaub
Tight move.
joe rogan
We've got to get the fuck out of here.
It's already 540. What?
bryan callen
Come see us in Denver!
joe rogan
We flew through three hours.
brendan schaub
I love it.
bryan callen
This was a good one.
joe rogan
Comedy store tonight.
I'd just like to point out that both you bitches peed twice.
bryan callen
I never got up once.
brendan schaub
You're like a cannibal.
bryan callen
Strong bladder.
joe rogan
I have trained it from doing this show.
I drank four cups of coffee sitting here.
And a bottle of kombucha.
brendan schaub
You're gangster.
joe rogan
I'm not bragging.
Probably I can hold up a lot of piss.
brendan schaub
Comedy Works, March 18th, March 19th.
It's my B-Day.
joe rogan
Actually, I am bragging about my ability to hold in piss.
It's impressive, though.
brendan schaub
It's like a baby camel.
bryan callen
Rogan and I will be here.
We'll be at the Comedy Store tonight.
joe rogan
Tonight.
With Theo Vaughn, Brent Ernst, and it's for a good cause, right?
bryan callen
Yeah, spinal cord.
joe rogan
Spinal cord injury.
bryan callen
Yeah, spinal cord injury, so come by.
joe rogan
How much of the money goes towards it?
unidentified
All of it.
bryan callen
Literally all of it.
joe rogan
Okay, all of it.
Beautiful.
But mine, I get mine.
bryan callen
You get all your money, buddy.
joe rogan
Yeah, dude.
bryan callen
All your money.
No, just kidding.
I love you, Joe Rogan.
joe rogan
Do it for charity.
So that's tonight at 8 o'clock, right?
And Theo Vaughn, very hilarious guy.
unidentified
Comedy store.
bryan callen
Main room.
joe rogan
Brent Ernst, hilarious guy.
Brian Cowan, hilarious.
And I can do my best.
bryan callen
Alright, so that's tonight.
joe rogan
Yeah!
And that's it.
Alright, we'll be back tomorrow with Greg Fitzsimmons and also Thursday night I'll be at the Improv for Greg Fitzsimmons St. Patrick's Day extravaganza.
We'll be talking about that tomorrow too.
Alright, thank you everybody.
Love you guys.
Bye-bye.
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