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Two, one. | ||
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Yee-haw! | |
Edgebrah. | ||
Yo. | ||
My man. | ||
I like how we could just start the podcast. | ||
Like, just right off. | ||
Yeah, fuck commercials. | ||
I noticed that like a week ago. | ||
Changed the flow of the conversation. | ||
Made it way better. | ||
Yeah, that was bullshit. | ||
Because it was like, you know when I really realized it was bullshit? | ||
Like, I did a podcast with Stan Hope, and he was making fun of the commercials while I was doing it. | ||
And I was like, why am I doing commercials in front of them? | ||
Why don't I just do that later and stitch it in? | ||
And I was lucky where the deal that I had for commercials was really just for iTunes. | ||
And so when I do this, it goes on YouTube first. | ||
So as it streams on YouTube and you stream, no need for commercials. | ||
Fuck it. | ||
And then I put the ads in later, but on iTunes or on YouTube, there's no commercials. | ||
You know what it changes to? | ||
This podcast, most of the time anyways, is about just you and your friends just talking about bullshit. | ||
You're not getting right to... | ||
Use the promo code JRE. It's not like Ari just wrote a book and he's on here to promote it. | ||
Sometimes that happens. | ||
Sometimes. | ||
Like Paul Stanley and stuff. | ||
I get a lot of those, but it's still even with them. | ||
It's like you want to sit them down and go, so what's it like to write the book? | ||
How hard was it? | ||
How long does it take? | ||
What's the process? | ||
The conversation before the podcast starts. | ||
There's some serious conversations going on. | ||
And then instead of just starting the podcast on a dime... | ||
And then continuing the conversation, you hit the commercials and you never get back to that conversation. | ||
A lot of the times. | ||
That's what I noticed. | ||
That's happened. | ||
Well, you know, a lot of times we haven't seen each other in like a week or two and we've got a bunch of crazy shit to say to each other and you just start... | ||
And then by the time the podcast starts, so, what's up, man? | ||
You know, you learn a lot about yourself. | ||
Do you listen to your own podcast? | ||
I listen to the good ones. | ||
I don't at all. | ||
I can't stand listening to myself. | ||
I've no desire to listen to myself. | ||
The only time is when I'm going through Mastering the System, my tutorial, I do sit there and I am interested in how I'm teaching and what I said and how I could have made the point clearer in my teaching. | ||
That's the only time, but when it's a podcast and I'm not talking about jiu-jitsu and I'm just talking about like just bullshit. | ||
I don't want to hear myself. | ||
It's good to hear though, but for the same reason like you realize why you're annoying to you like I've found things that I didn't know I did like little little ticks little weird things like people do like a big one is saying like People, like, there's, like, Tom Segura, I love him to death. | ||
That motherfucker out-likes me. | ||
He hurts me sometimes with the likes. | ||
Like, there's, like, a guy we like. | ||
If you got, like, a guy like, and there's, like, a way like. | ||
Did he say that? | ||
Everybody does. | ||
We all do it. | ||
We don't even know. | ||
And when guys are telling this story, it's hilarious. | ||
And he's like, she came up to me and started mad-dogging me, and I was like, what the fuck you looking at? | ||
I paid for all that shit. | ||
And you didn't say none of that. | ||
You just said, I was like that. | ||
I had that look on my face, but I didn't say shit. | ||
And if you don't question, did you actually say that? | ||
You're like, no, I was thinking it. | ||
I'm like, if I wouldn't have asked you, you would have made it seem like you were this bad motherfucker in this story. | ||
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Saying the right shit. | |
But you didn't act in reality, you didn't say shit! | ||
And I was like, fuck you, who paid for that shit? | ||
And you said that? | ||
No. | ||
No. | ||
I thought it. | ||
Like... | ||
I thought it. | ||
Fuck you, man! | ||
Fuck you! | ||
And where you came from, bitch! | ||
Did you actually say that to him? | ||
No! | ||
Oh, man. | ||
I hate that shit. | ||
Another one that I do that I need to figure out how to stop doing is I say, you know... | ||
I don't know. | ||
You're trying to form your point. | ||
You're trying to formulate it in your mind. | ||
And now you sympathize more with black people when they're always saying, you know what I'm saying? | ||
You're like, we're basically doing the same thing. | ||
We're just not saying sand. | ||
So why are we making fun? | ||
You know what I mean? | ||
Everybody says, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know. | ||
They just say, know what I'm saying. | ||
But, if they stretched it out further, it would get even more ridiculous. | ||
You know what I'm saying, Word God? | ||
You know what I'm saying, Word God? | ||
If like, you know what I'm saying, Word God? | ||
It's like in the middle of every sentence. | ||
Dude, I think you started something. | ||
I think I might have started something. | ||
You know what I'm saying, Word God? | ||
Hashtag, what did you say? | ||
Hashtag, you know what I'm saying, Word God? | ||
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Yeah, shit. | |
Well, black guys were calling each other God for a while on the East Coast. | ||
It was a weird thing that was going on. | ||
Like, I went to see Terry Norris fight at a bar with a friend of mine who's a comic and his buddy. | ||
We worked together, me and this comic, and he brought his buddy with him. | ||
And we all went, Terry Norris is fighting tonight. | ||
Let's go. | ||
We're going to see Terry Norris fight live on whatever it was, HBO. And they were talking to each other. | ||
And they were talking to each other. | ||
Man, he hit him with that left hook, God. | ||
You see that jab, God? | ||
You see that head movement, God? | ||
And I was like, whoa, what are they doing? | ||
Like, is this a... | ||
You know, I'm white, obviously. | ||
So I'm like, what the... | ||
Have I missed a meeting? | ||
Like, this seems to be a new thing. | ||
And then I remember shaking my head going, this will not last. | ||
You guys, you're going to feel silly for calling each other God in a couple of years. | ||
You can't just do... | ||
unidentified
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Or maybe, you know what? | |
A lot of people are trying to come up with their own shit and try to make it stick. | ||
Some ends up panning out, some doesn't. | ||
But people, they're trying. | ||
That was a big one, though. | ||
That was everywhere. | ||
It wasn't like these guys, it was their shit. | ||
It was like black guys were doing that all throughout the East Coast in the 90s. | ||
It's very prestigious to have a saying you made up blow up. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
There's one, you know, people always say, holler at me, holler at me. | ||
Yeah. | ||
This guy, Rico Santana, he started scream at me. | ||
He was pushing that. | ||
Scream at me. | ||
Scream at me. | ||
And I'm not sure if it stuck. | ||
Never heard it. | ||
When did he do this? | ||
How long ago? | ||
Five years ago. | ||
Dudes will try their own shit. | ||
Hashtag scream at me. | ||
Yeah, you want someone to holla at you, but holla is, what's up? | ||
You know, scream at you implies like they're angry at you. | ||
You're setting yourself up for danger. | ||
I like it. | ||
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Scream at me. | |
Scream at me, bitch. | ||
Scream at me. | ||
But you say it like in a sexy little voice. | ||
Oh, okay. | ||
Right? | ||
Like you tell a chick. | ||
That chick's going to stop calling you. | ||
She's going to run away. | ||
She's not going to respond to your text. | ||
I don't know. | ||
She's going to be like, this fucking dude's crazy. | ||
Can you imagine that? | ||
Instead of calling me later, scream at me. | ||
I bet if you said it like that, well, you're a funny guy. | ||
So if you said it like that, it would probably work because she would start laughing. | ||
Yo, scream at me. | ||
Be like, uh-uh, Wayne. | ||
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Silly bitch, I'll scream at you later. | |
Exactly! | ||
There you go! | ||
That's it. | ||
Oh, it's gonna work for women. | ||
Those ticks, little things like that. | ||
You know what I'm saying, you know? | ||
It's like, where are those coming from? | ||
And they're basically complicated versions of ugh. | ||
Even fucking. | ||
A lot of times people use fucking, fucking guys, fucking, same thing. | ||
It's all their elongated versions. | ||
But fucking's the worst, right? | ||
I do that a lot, too. | ||
I used to. | ||
When you're younger, you do that more. | ||
And you're nervous. | ||
Nervous. | ||
There's a lot of fuckings. | ||
Yeah. | ||
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You're nervous. | |
Like, fuck, man. | ||
And then I was like, fucking. | ||
And he was like, fucking. | ||
And I don't give a fuck. | ||
And I was like, fucking fuck that dude. | ||
When I was doing stand-up in Boston, they had a thing they used to call the fuck meter. | ||
They were saying, like, if you were going to go do stand-up, they would say, Eddie, don't break the fuck meter. | ||
Like, when you use them, they should mean something. | ||
And they were so right. | ||
It taught me so much. | ||
Because when I see a guy who says fuck too much, I know that guy's nervous. | ||
You know, if he starts... | ||
Fucking... | ||
I'm walking down the fucking street and this fucking... | ||
It's like you're off. | ||
There's something off. | ||
You're using one word too many times. | ||
No matter what word it is. | ||
And if it happens to be fucking... | ||
Like you're trying to sound like you're together. | ||
You're trying to sound like you're upset but you're not really. | ||
Or if you are upset, you need to collect your thoughts. | ||
You hear that when you listen to a podcast. | ||
Most of the time you're just talking. | ||
You don't remember how you said it. | ||
You just don't. | ||
Very rarely, unless something really crazy happens. | ||
How often do you really remember how you said things? | ||
What's so funny? | ||
No, I'm just thinking, man... | ||
I better not say it. | ||
It's something that I probably should not talk about, but it's funny to me, but it's not podcast material. | ||
Oh, okay. | ||
I'm sorry. | ||
The one thing that I... Damn it, Eddie Bravo. | ||
Write that down, Jamie. | ||
The beginning... | ||
There's not a chance in hell you're going to remember what we talked about either. | ||
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That's the worst. | |
Maybe I will write it in my notes. | ||
Oh man, notes are huge. | ||
God damn it. | ||
Do you use notes when you do your... | ||
I use notes for every motherfucking thing. | ||
Do you do them for seminars? | ||
For everything. | ||
Really? | ||
On my notes. | ||
On your phone, you mean? | ||
Everything. | ||
Do you transcribe it? | ||
All my shit. | ||
Do you do the voice transcription thing? | ||
No. | ||
Oh, it's so good, dude. | ||
So good. | ||
So accurate. | ||
I use it all the time. | ||
If I'm in my car and I got an idea, I used to get panicky. | ||
I'd be like, fuck, I gotta pull over. | ||
I started coming up with reasons to say the idea over and over and over again so that I didn't forget it. | ||
Now, I just grab that phone, hit that button, and go, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. | ||
I'm gone. | ||
Yeah. | ||
I use it for jiu-jitsu a lot, for teaching. | ||
There's so much shit to master in jiu-jitsu. | ||
It's so vast. | ||
It seems like it's getting crazier, too, with the advent. | ||
Like, the more attention that people are putting on leg locks these days, it seems like I'm watching jiu-jitsu, and I'm like, man, I'm not... | ||
You know, I see transitions on the ground that I understand, but when I see some leg lock transitions, I'm like, I have no idea where these guys are going. | ||
Yeah. | ||
I just see scrambles. | ||
I'd have to watch that again and again and again, see how he set that up. | ||
Yeah, you just got to get it broken down to you in a system. | ||
It's just like the rubber guard. | ||
You have 5th degree, 6th degree, 8th degree black belts out there in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, and they've never really looked into the rubber guard at all, and they think, oh... | ||
They just throwing their legs up and they're grabbing their leg and then there's an arm bar or a triangle and a guy slip out and then they're just grabbing their ankles. | ||
They don't realize how precise and microscopic it is. | ||
And that's what I used to think of leg locks. | ||
I thought leg locks where you just jump on legs. | ||
I'm a black belt and I'm still thinking this until about a year ago. | ||
I thought dudes just jumping on, you get that outside one or you get that inside one. | ||
I was pretty good at a heel hook coming off being mounted. | ||
But I didn't spend a lot of time with heel hooks. | ||
It just seemed like, ooh, I don't want to get my MMA fighters. | ||
I want to set a good MMA example. | ||
Because I'm not going to be the one going in the cage. | ||
So if I'm trying to teach them this shit, I better be doing this shit. | ||
So I thought it's not a good idea to always go for leg locks. | ||
If you're going to do MMA, it's... | ||
It's a great second or third option, last resort. | ||
Nothing's working. | ||
You can't take the guy down. | ||
You tried and maybe you almost got him down. | ||
You almost passed the guard. | ||
The guy's a beast. | ||
It's not working. | ||
Nothing's working. | ||
He's throwing you around. | ||
Nothing's working. | ||
It's a third round. | ||
You might tell this guy, if this guy... | ||
In the gym was really good at leg locks. | ||
This is where you tell him, let's fucking go after his legs. | ||
The chokes aren't working. | ||
We're not getting anywhere near his neck. | ||
You got one more round. | ||
Thank God that you can actually pull this off because you're really good at leg locks. | ||
That's what I think. | ||
It was like a last-ditch effort. | ||
Yeah, last resort. | ||
If shit didn't work... | ||
Because it's risky. | ||
They can work, but if they don't work... | ||
You're on the bottom. | ||
You're going to get Alan Belchard. | ||
You know what I'm saying? | ||
And the best leg locker in the game right now is Eddie Cummings. | ||
He's an EBI 145 champion. | ||
He... | ||
He's incredible. | ||
He's incredible. | ||
He's like the Marcelo Garcia of leg locks. | ||
And when you say Alan Belcher, we should explain what you mean. | ||
Like when he fought Paul Hares, Paul Hares is like the best leg locker in MMA. Alan Belcher thought long and hard about this and worked a lot on the strategy and did a lot of leg lock defense. | ||
He brought in, he flew and he trains in Alabama. | ||
Oh, is it Alabama? | ||
Biloxi, Mississippi. | ||
He's got his gym there. | ||
I forget. | ||
I forget. | ||
One of those places down there. | ||
But he flew in Dean Lister for that fight, and Davi Ramos, who just won Abu Dhabi. | ||
That guy's an animal. | ||
I saw that flying arm bar that you nailed it. | ||
Yeah, that guy's the new star in town, is Davi Ramos. | ||
He's badass. | ||
But Alan Belcher, three years ago, or two years ago, whenever that fight was, it was probably at least three years ago when that happened, when his fight with Rusamar Paharis, he flew both of them in, and he was already known as a really good leg locker. | ||
Yeah. | ||
He's yoked and shitty. | ||
He looks like a mini little pohars, a little smaller. | ||
And Alan Belcher said Dean Lister and Davi Ramos just wrecked him with legs for a month straight. | ||
Just wrecked him. | ||
And he just forced him, forced him to learn little by little. | ||
You find your safe spots. | ||
You figure out where you're safe. | ||
And maybe you're not getting out or escaping, but let's figure out where we could stay safe. | ||
And then we'll think about the escape later, you know? | ||
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Right. | |
That's how it all starts. | ||
And then you get really good at, boom, at staying at that safe, just going right through that safe zone and right to the escapes because, you know, you've done it so much the slow way. | ||
Then it starts blending little by little, boom. | ||
But anyways... | ||
Alan Belcher eventually learned how to deal with leg locks. | ||
Amazingly. | ||
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Yeah. | |
And then he proved it in the octagon in the UFC against the scariest leg lock guy out there. | ||
Still, to this day, still the scariest leg lock guy out there. | ||
unidentified
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And... | |
Paul Harris had many shots at Allen's leg. | ||
He would escape and then Russo Morparis has this elaborate system. | ||
He knows exactly what he's doing. | ||
You have to spend a lot of time there and really analyze the possibilities and all the angles. | ||
When you're attacking legs, it really is an entirely different system. | ||
Just legs. | ||
But we're also learning... | ||
That it's not a be-all end-all, especially in MMA. Paul Harris has been jacked a couple times, and even the best guy right now, Eddie Cummings, when he goes in and he competes, he's tapping everybody with heel hooks. | ||
But he needs two or three tries at those legs. | ||
Guy's gonna defend the first time. | ||
It's always the same as matches. | ||
He'll get guys really quick, too. | ||
30 seconds, 12 seconds, boom. | ||
He just jumps on legs, and he's like, dudes are like, oh, shit. | ||
You know, he has... | ||
But generally, against the top guy, the guy's gonna pull out of his shit like two or three times. | ||
Eddie might just let him. | ||
Let him think that, oh, look, I can't control him. | ||
And then just setting him up. | ||
Just playing with him. | ||
Letting him go. | ||
And then coming back. | ||
Just knowing that he's gonna get those legs eventually. | ||
unidentified
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Mm-hmm. | |
Just wearing you out, even. | ||
Yes. | ||
And then, but in MMA... Man, you gotta go in there. | ||
It better work that first fucking time. | ||
Because if that guy finds a little safe zone, and he has a safe zone where he can punch you, it could be lights out. | ||
Risky. | ||
Very dangerous. | ||
So, regardless of how sophisticated and awesome leg locks are overall right now in grappling, still in MMA, they're still dangerous, but... | ||
It's a very important secret weapon when, you know, the safer stuff, like, you know, taking him down and passing his guard and mounting him and getting his back and nice and safe. | ||
You're not going to reverse shit on me. | ||
You can't punch me. | ||
You can't punch me. | ||
I'm all over you. | ||
Boom, bam, bam, nice and safe and dominating. | ||
You know, it's always a... | ||
A better idea to try to do that first. | ||
If you can do that, why would you give him a chance at your face while you're going for leg locks? | ||
You might get it, but you're giving him a shot. | ||
Man, all he's got to do is be a little bit good at defending a little bit. | ||
Defend that shit. | ||
He's used to it. | ||
Bam, bam, done. | ||
Especially if you've got a guy. | ||
You remember that Cro Cop-Gonzaga fight, the last one, where Cro Cop was on top of Gonzaga and blasting him with elbows? | ||
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Yes. | |
You saw what happens when you get a scary, scary striker like Cro Cop on top of you and you're not controlling his posture? | ||
Yeah. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Ugh, can't forget that kind of shit. | ||
Can't forget that, because Krokop might be the only guy we've seen do it like that, do it that quickly and devastatingly, but that means it's possible. | ||
Like, just because you're in someone's guard, that shit isn't safe, you know? | ||
Like, Tito never had the kind of... | ||
The kind of speed and precision as a striker that Krokop has. | ||
So Krokop's elbows, even his short elbows, are just so devastating. | ||
But Tito used to fuck guys up from inside their guard. | ||
He never bothered passing people's guard. | ||
It's like, good luck holding on to me. | ||
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Boom! | |
And he would just jack guys from that position. | ||
And the best ever was Uriah Faber. | ||
Nobody threw elbows better than him because he was so small and his opponent was so small. | ||
He could lie, lay and pray in someone's full guard. | ||
Lay and pray. | ||
Lay on him. | ||
Just because he... | ||
Top guy's got to clinch, too. | ||
Bottom guy's throwing elbows. | ||
Bottom guy could punch. | ||
So, you know, if you're in someone's guard, you're in some danger with strikes, too, and submissions, if the guy knows what he's doing. | ||
But he would pick dudes up. | ||
He'd be laying prey, but then he would, like, spring up like he's doing some kind of, like, back extension. | ||
He'd pick them up and then slam them on the ground, followed by an elbow, like a rhythm. | ||
He'd lift him up. | ||
He'd lift him up. | ||
It was a fucking amazing rhythm. | ||
That was the King of the Cage days, right? | ||
No, that was WEC days. | ||
Oh, was it? | ||
That was before the UFC bought the WEC. This was back when it was in Santa Barbara. | ||
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Was that in Limor, California? | |
Yeah. | ||
Somewhere in San Luis Obispo or some shit. | ||
Yeah, that's way up north, right? | ||
Yeah, and he used to fuck people up like that. | ||
But then he learned how to pass the guard, and he got really good at jiu-jitsu. | ||
So instead of staying there, he thought, even this guy with the most devastating ground and pound, you don't see it anymore. | ||
Because he's going to try to pass the guard and mount you and take your back and choke you. | ||
He knows the way now. | ||
His guillotines, too. | ||
When he gets a hold of the dude's neck, he's so nasty. | ||
His guillotines are just so tight and quick. | ||
When you think of someone... | ||
You try to think of a UFC fighter who's known for a special submission, like Ronda, you're like Armbar, Ronda, Armbar, bam! | ||
You know what I mean? | ||
Bam! | ||
There's only a few guys that you see the submission right next to them, right when someone talks about them. | ||
And Uriah Faber, he's got that little special guillotine he does. | ||
There's so many different ways to guillotine necks, so many different ways. | ||
And the way that... | ||
Uriah Faber does it. | ||
I'm not even good at that way. | ||
I never even get in that position. | ||
I never find myself in that one. | ||
It's like a whole beautiful little path and just a It's a dangerous choke. | ||
I really gotta sit down and look into it, really, now that I'm thinking about it and talking about it. | ||
I'm like, what am I doing? | ||
There's just so much to do. | ||
That was the beginning of this conversation. | ||
There's so much to teach. | ||
I have to write shit in my notes. | ||
Boom, I brought it back. | ||
That's the one thing that I hate listening to myself talk, is because I'll have a story I want to say, but then I think, okay, let me set it up. | ||
So when I'm listening to my shit, I used to listen to my podcast, and I see it, and I'm dissecting what I do. | ||
I'm trying to make a point, but I never get to the point. | ||
Because I go so far back to set it up that by the time I get to the point, I already thought of another story. | ||
And I'm going way over here. | ||
That's called weed. | ||
Yes. | ||
Yes. | ||
I hate that about me. | ||
Shit. | ||
So when I hear myself do it, I go, there I go. | ||
Start talking about something else. | ||
Never even finished the fucking point. | ||
I had a good point, too. | ||
And I just forgot about it. | ||
I never got to it. | ||
We all do that. | ||
It's when you get high. | ||
I digress so much. | ||
And then it becomes a game. | ||
Let's try to figure out where this all started. | ||
We're trying to backtrack. | ||
Boom, boom, boom. | ||
We do the exact same thing. | ||
I do it all the time on this podcast. | ||
If we get high, it just goes on its own. | ||
Maybe we should let people know before the podcast, this is a marijuana-induced podcast. | ||
Some of them are sober. | ||
This one is not. | ||
So there you go. | ||
If you're going, what the fuck are they talking about? | ||
Well, that. | ||
There's that, too. | ||
Weed. | ||
Weed decides what you want to talk about. | ||
And now you've got Ryan Hall, man. | ||
Now we've got a little dude who's coming in with a Husamar Paharis-type threat to the legs as well. | ||
How good is he going to do? | ||
And you know what? | ||
His stand-up, it looks like his foot works together. | ||
He looks like he's got decent striking. | ||
It looks like he knows how to move on his feet. | ||
And he's been at TriStar, so you know he's working his wrestling all the goddamn time. | ||
Is his wrestling going to be good enough to take anybody down in the top 10? | ||
What is he weighing? | ||
What is he competing at? | ||
145, I think. | ||
Is he going to stay there, or is he going to go to 35? | ||
I'm not sure. | ||
I'm not sure. | ||
A lot of guys, they do tough at a weight class above, I think, because if you're going to make the extreme weight cut that a lot of guys make, you're going to need six to eight weeks to Whereas if you're on tough, you've got to do it multiple times over the course of six weeks. | ||
And for a lot of dudes, almost everybody started out a higher weight class. | ||
Michael Bisping, even though he competed at 205 and beat a lot of guys at 205, he fought on the Ultimate Fighter at 205. 185 was a better weight class for him. | ||
Same with Kelvin. | ||
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Kelvin won it at 185, but he's better at 170. It's almost like if you're going to do the Ultimate Fighter, do your walk-around weight. | |
If you had to do something same-day weigh-in, do that weight. | ||
That's always the next weight category. | ||
Unless you want to get super crazy. | ||
Some guys just say, fuck it, same-day weigh-in. | ||
I'm still going to cut like a motherfucker. | ||
I just think when you're on that show and you're going to do that several times over six weeks, and then on top of that, it's the nerves and all the TV cameras, your first experience. | ||
You're better off just not doing anything that's going to drain you. | ||
He might go to 35. How does he look at 45? | ||
He's kind of like a skinny, wiry guy. | ||
At 45, right now, so far in the house, I think he had one fight, and he had a fight to get in. | ||
So far, with just those two fights, he's already world-renowned leg lock master. | ||
Uriah on the show. | ||
You watch the show at all? | ||
I haven't seen the season at all. | ||
Dude, come on. | ||
I got it recorded. | ||
I'm binge-watching. | ||
Tough with Conor McGregor? | ||
Holy motherfucking shit. | ||
How good is it? | ||
It's the best ever. | ||
Are you kidding? | ||
It's the best motherfucking tough of all time. | ||
That's the best one. | ||
How are you going to get better than Conor McGregor on your goddamn TV show? | ||
A fight show? | ||
Oh man, he gets under Uriah's skin. | ||
Oh, he starts a lot of shit, man. | ||
He's the ultimate shit talker, man. | ||
Isn't it fucked up that he called TJ Dillashaw a snake in the grass and then Dillashaw wound up leaving? | ||
That's crazy. | ||
That's some prophet shit. | ||
That's some old Celtic warrior prophet shit. | ||
McGregor just calling it like... | ||
He just figures if he just calls it like he sees it, no filter, just call it like you see it. | ||
Don't hold it in. | ||
No editing. | ||
Just let it all out. | ||
He's from Dublin. | ||
They talk mad shit over there, dude. | ||
It's a totally different style of shit-talking. | ||
You know the ultimate tough Would be Chael coaching one team and Connor coaching another team. | ||
And they're different weight classes. | ||
Chael could walk around at 230 if he's not fighting. | ||
He's way bigger than Connor. | ||
But Connor is so alpha. | ||
Chael's going to big brother him and go, at first, come on, you're too small for me. | ||
Chael would find a workaround. | ||
You know what I mean? | ||
Chael would figure out an unorthodox approach to dealing with Conor. | ||
No, he would deal like, listen, you're 160 pounds. | ||
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You're a cute fella. | |
And then Conor's not going to take that. | ||
Right. | ||
Conor's not going to sit there and be the little 160 pound, you know, tiny little fighter to Chael. | ||
He's not going to big brother him. | ||
I think he's bigger than 160. I really do. | ||
He's like 170 or whatever. | ||
Which is crazy that he fights at 145. Think about the shit talking between them two. | ||
Pretty incredible. | ||
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Holy shit. | |
Shit! | ||
You'd have to get Chael off of his suspension. | ||
He's got a two-year suspension. | ||
And then Conor would have to agree to fight him at a catchweight. | ||
It'll end up being, Conor will go, let's meet at 180. If you can get down to 180 or 185. He can't get down to 180. Or maybe Conor just says, fuck it, we're going to fight free weight. | ||
Absolute, bitch. | ||
Well, I mean, Conor and Uriah aren't fighting. | ||
I mean, the show's hilarious and they're not fighting. | ||
Coaches don't need to compete against each other at the end for it to be good. | ||
Yeah, exactly. | ||
They don't need that. | ||
That would just happen because Conor wouldn't be able to take it. | ||
Conor would call him out and say, let's do this shit. | ||
You know what would be interesting? | ||
It would be interesting to see someone coach opposite of Ronda, like a dude. | ||
A dude coach opposite of Ronda. | ||
Conor and Ronda. | ||
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Yeah. | |
Dude, Connor and Rhonda, that would crush the ratings. | ||
Dude, that would break the fucking... | ||
That would break it. | ||
That would be the greatest ratings of all time. | ||
There would be no greater. | ||
Connor and Rhonda together on a show. | ||
And what if they wound up having an affair? | ||
Oh. | ||
It'd be giant news. | ||
Dana would probably pull them aside, give them some ecstasy, say, listen, you guys want to make a lot of money? | ||
Can you imagine? | ||
That would be like Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie of MMA. Right there, right? | ||
Yeah, them eloping together. | ||
It'd be so similar. | ||
That's hilarious. | ||
It would be the exact same thing. | ||
It would be the exact same motherfucking thing. | ||
He's the real fight club, and she's the number one chick on the planet who has more power than Angelina Jolie. | ||
She can go to any goddamn country easily. | ||
She wants to go meet the president of fucking Uganda. | ||
She can make that happen. | ||
He's going to be a Fuck yeah! | ||
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Are you kidding? | |
Fuck, he's gonna send a private jet for her. | ||
Well, she's become like an ambassador. | ||
She can get into anybody's house. | ||
She's not just an actress. | ||
She does so much humanitarian work. | ||
She adopts so many kids. | ||
Isn't that awesome? | ||
It's amazing what they do. | ||
I mean, a lot of people trivialize it because we always have suspect motives. | ||
We always suspect, like, oh, they're just doing it for the publicity. | ||
Oh, she's just fucking crazy. | ||
But at the end of the day, she's adopting a bunch of people and spending a bunch of time working to help all these sick, needy, and poor people. | ||
I mean, she does some pretty incredible shit, man. | ||
That's a lot of positive energy. | ||
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Yeah. | |
I mean... | ||
It's probably why she's had the most amazing career ever. | ||
I mean, she's hot and everything, but there's a lot of hot chicks out there. | ||
She remains relevant because of all that philanthropy work. | ||
It seems like she wouldn't be doing all that she's doing if she didn't appreciate life way more than the average person. | ||
So she's living in a state of appreciation so much. | ||
She's wanting to give back so much and change the world. | ||
She's so into it. | ||
And that's just like an overproduction of appreciation. | ||
And then look at her career. | ||
Anything she comes out with, she's A-list all the way through. | ||
Not only that, even if her movies suck, people just forget about them. | ||
They just don't talk about them anymore. | ||
It's not like Angelina Jolie sucks. | ||
But if they were going to do Alien 6 with Angelina Jolie, you'd be like, oh shit, Angelina Jolie's going to be in the Alien movie. | ||
You would never think, oh, this is how bad the cast is. | ||
She's done that... | ||
Cinderella-type movie. | ||
It's kind of like a Disney super animated, but it's her. | ||
Cruella, right? | ||
Something like that. | ||
I don't know how big that was. | ||
Maybe that did like a hundred million or something. | ||
It was big. | ||
It was big for kids. | ||
Perfect for her. | ||
Yeah. | ||
She could do anything. | ||
Movie star-wise, any role that she really wants to pursue, she could do. | ||
For now. | ||
As she gets into her 40s, it'll be harder and harder. | ||
That's what it is for those women, those Meryl Streep-type women. | ||
We're just smashing it in the 80s. | ||
Just killing it. | ||
She's such a good actress. | ||
God damn, she's good. | ||
She's so believable. | ||
But as they get in their 50s and in their 60s, it's hard to find roles. | ||
There's not a lot of movies made about 60-year-old ladies. | ||
So you have a support role that may or may not be juicy. | ||
It might be boring. | ||
Someone's mom. | ||
Why don't you start playing the moms? | ||
Well, that was one of the things Robin Williams was saying. | ||
Rob Williams was saying before he died that it was really getting really hard for him because the only things that he was being offered that were interesting at all were like scale or sometimes not even scale. | ||
Like you have to do it for free. | ||
No way! | ||
Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
Like student projects. | ||
Wow, I thought he was still huge. | ||
He was. | ||
He was. | ||
But the things that he found interesting. | ||
He would do these movies that were just, they didn't have any money. | ||
They didn't have any budget. | ||
But those were the interesting. | ||
Like, did you ever see that 24-hour film, 24-hour photo? | ||
What was it called? | ||
I think it was called 24 Hour Photo or something like that. | ||
He played a psycho, like a real psycho that starts stalking his family. | ||
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Oh, I heard about that. | |
Was that his last film? | ||
No, no, no, no. | ||
That was a few years ago. | ||
But he started getting interested in doing these small, independent films like that. | ||
And you know, they would offer him a piece of the back end or something like that, probably. | ||
He had a huge nut. | ||
He had a giant ass house up in like Northern California. | ||
One hour photo, that's what it was. | ||
Dude, he was so good in that movie. | ||
God damn it. | ||
You would never believe that he's a hilarious... | ||
You'd never believe that the same guy from Mork and Mindy would be this fucking creeper in one hour photo. | ||
He was awesome in it. | ||
But my point being, he had a state in Northern California that was worth like 20 million bucks. | ||
He had all these bills. | ||
He had crazy, mad bills. | ||
So, following his heart with these roles crushed him. | ||
No, no, no, no, no, no. | ||
He had some serious physical issues. | ||
He committed suicide for whatever reason. | ||
Only he knows, but there was a lot going on. | ||
He had Parkinson's disease. | ||
He had some sort of dementia that apparently was coming on. | ||
His mind wasn't functioning very well. | ||
His body was failing. | ||
He had a massive heart attack. | ||
He had a massive heart attack. | ||
And then in going through heart surgery, Dr. Mark Gordon, you met Dr. Gordon, right? | ||
You met that guy? | ||
I don't know. | ||
He's the one that does all the work with traumatic brain injury patients. | ||
And he said that when people go through any type of a giant surgery like that, like heart surgery, where you have to be under for a long period of time, a lot of times your hormonal system is devastated after that. | ||
Your body's like really fucked up. | ||
And it can send you into a depression. | ||
Like the recovery from a major... | ||
Like heart surgery, like what he had done, is apparently like it's a devastating thing on your body. | ||
It takes a long time to recover from. | ||
And in that recovery process, he thinks that a lot of patients suffer from massive depression. | ||
And there's like a correlation between suicide attempts post-surgery that he thinks possibly could be attributed to this devastating effect that being under for a long period of times and then the trauma of the surgery Can have on you. | ||
So he had a lot going that was wrong before he killed himself. | ||
Yeah, all the energy. | ||
This is just me guessing. | ||
This is like bro biology. | ||
But I'm guessing that when you're going through something like that and you're about to die and going through some major surgery, your body's like, we're not thinking about being happy at all right now. | ||
We're thinking about being alive so it stops all serotonin production just to keep you alive. | ||
And when you recover, Your shit is so depleted that maybe that's why you're depressed. | ||
That's me guessing. | ||
It could be. | ||
It's a massive strain on the system. | ||
One of the reasons why they would prescribe steroids after surgery is they would prescribe it, especially to athletes when they get injured, not just to make them recover quickly, but because during that recovery process, your body is very weak. | ||
When you have some major shit going on with your body, you have some major shit fixed, like for the X amount of weeks afterwards, depending upon how old you are and how healthy you are, you feel wrecked. | ||
You just feel wrecked. | ||
You're just like, ugh. | ||
Because your body's like, danger! | ||
Danger! | ||
Resources! | ||
Dude, we got screws in our fucking knee. | ||
There's an incision. | ||
There's stitches. | ||
There's screws in the patella and in the bottom. | ||
This is crazy. | ||
He cut off a piece of our patella tendon and stuffed it inside where the ACL used to be. | ||
There's no ACL. All this inflammation. | ||
Like your body's on just like crash alert. | ||
Your body knows something, some pretty devastating, severe shit has happened to it. | ||
So I think depending upon how healthy you are, it can be rough times afterwards. | ||
And I think for an older dude like him, who already has these physical issues, I don't know if Parkinson's happened before or if he had had the symptoms. | ||
How did he kill himself again? | ||
He hung himself. | ||
Damn. | ||
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Yeah. | |
Damn. | ||
Yeah, man. | ||
Is that a quick way to go on suicide? | ||
People do that, they want to suffer a little bit? | ||
They do if they don't want to shoot themselves or they don't want to suffer from pills. | ||
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There's only a few ways to go. | |
California actually just passed a law for assisted suicide, which is going to be interesting. | ||
I don't know the particular details of the law, but when people are terminally ill, like if you're dying of cancer or something like that, you're just in agony every day. | ||
Now, finally, you can end your own life, and you can have doctor-assisted suicide. | ||
They've been doing it to people, either on the sneak tip, or people have had to go to states where it's legal. | ||
I believe it's legal in Oregon. | ||
But now it's going to be legal here too. | ||
It's amazing that you can't... | ||
You have to... | ||
Eventually everyone has to think about shit like that. | ||
People put their dog down. | ||
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Okay? | |
Your dog's in agony. | ||
You put your dog down. | ||
But not grandpa. | ||
Grandpa's got to suffer. | ||
Grandpa's got to just keep shitting his pants and throwing up and falling down and breaking all his bones and then stitch them back together again and give him some pills. | ||
If grandpa was a dog, you would have put grandpa out a long time ago. | ||
You know? | ||
If grandpa says, look, I'm ready to go... | ||
You bring in the doctor. | ||
The doctor, are you of sound mind? | ||
Yes. | ||
I'm 95 years old. | ||
I've had a great life. | ||
I have a wonderful family around. | ||
I'd like them to be around when I pass. | ||
And that's it. | ||
And you go. | ||
Which is probably a good way to go, man. | ||
It's probably a good way to go. | ||
I think the idea that you're supposed to suffer and make it to the end because it's natural. | ||
Well, that's not how we treat our cats. | ||
You know, if your cat is in fucking agony, man, you put your cat down. | ||
Your dog gets hit by a car and he's not going to make it. | ||
He's just howling. | ||
You put your dog down. | ||
This idea that people have to make it to some fucking finish line. | ||
Darkness. | ||
It is dark. | ||
Yeah. | ||
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Darkness. | |
Embrace that darkness. | ||
Say something happy. | ||
The darkness makes you appreciate the light. | ||
You know? | ||
That kind of shit that makes you appreciate the light. | ||
Yeah, man. | ||
It's like we're all going to have to deal with that sooner or later. | ||
Or you die early, you know? | ||
One or the other. | ||
You're going to go through that old age in the hospital, falling apart, people taking care of you. | ||
Everybody's going to go through that. | ||
Or you're going to die before that. | ||
Yeah, one or the other. | ||
My friend from Boston just died. | ||
My boss, when I was starting out doing stand-up comedy, I stayed friends with him for the past 26 years. | ||
His name is Dave Dolan. | ||
He was a private investigator and he needed a driver because he lost his license with a DUI. And he said, fuck it, I'm quitting drinking, that's it, but I need a driver, because he still had to work. | ||
So he put an ad out, and the want ads, for a private investigator's assistant. | ||
And I answered the ad, and I met this dude, and he was fucking hilarious. | ||
It was mostly insurance cases. | ||
Occasionally, it would be like a guy who thinks his wife's cheating on him, but most of it was insurance cases, where people would pretend to be injured, and they would get another job, like working for cash, under the table, and you'd catch them. | ||
Because the insurance company was... | ||
Paying them millions of dollars or whatever they were paying them, and then they would go get another job. | ||
Probably not millions, you know. | ||
Maybe they were suing, whatever it was. | ||
Most of these people, they would get up early in the morning and go work other jobs, so we would just wait. | ||
So we would drive to this location. | ||
Go up the street. | ||
So our car would be facing that house. | ||
And we'd shut the car off and wait. | ||
Just like the movies. | ||
Like 4 o'clock in the morning. | ||
But you're sitting there at 4 o'clock in the morning waiting for this dude to wake up. | ||
And you just start talking shit. | ||
And he would just talk shit. | ||
He was hilarious. | ||
Who would talk shit? | ||
Dave. | ||
This guy Dave. | ||
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Oh, your partner. | |
Yeah. | ||
He was one of the funniest people I've ever met in my life. | ||
How old were you at this time? | ||
I was 21. And you were doing stand-up already? | ||
Just starting stand-up. | ||
I was just doing open mic nights. | ||
I was still fighting. | ||
He was one of the last guys to see me fight. | ||
And he would just talk shit. | ||
He was one of those guys that women could never, ever get him to change. | ||
It was impossible. | ||
There was no, like, what should I do? | ||
Man, she wants me to change. | ||
She wants me to change the way I'm dressing. | ||
She wants me to move. | ||
Into some new neighborhood. | ||
She wants me to quit my job. | ||
Maybe I'm going to convert and become Jewish. | ||
There was none of that in that dude. | ||
None. | ||
From the moment I met him, he was like, Fuck that! | ||
You do that, that's the beginning of the end, pal. | ||
Listen, that's how they get you. | ||
And he would always just be laughing. | ||
I don't believe he was ever married. | ||
He might have been. | ||
But even if he was, I'm sure that chick had zero control over that guy. | ||
That guy was crazy. | ||
He was hilarious. | ||
He was a guy that was meant to be a comedian that never became a comedian. | ||
A hundred percent. | ||
He could have been a world-class comedian. | ||
He was fucking funny. | ||
And he was insightful. | ||
And his cousin actually owned the Comedy Connection. | ||
His cousin was Bill Downs, who was one of the owners of the Comedy Connection. | ||
So I didn't even know this when I started working for him. | ||
And he's asking me, you know, what do you do? | ||
And I told him the whole deal. | ||
And he was like, my cousin's Billy Downs. | ||
I'm like, I do open mic nights there. | ||
He's like, no shit. | ||
And so he... | ||
Easily. | ||
Like if he just decided to go and do it. | ||
He just never did it. | ||
He easily could have been a comedian. | ||
He was fucking hilarious. | ||
And we would do these things. | ||
We would show up at people's houses. | ||
He would have like a list of license plates. | ||
And on one of those license plates would be the license plate of the person that we're looking at. | ||
The other ones would be scratched out. | ||
And maybe a couple more. | ||
You'd just write a few in and get to this one. | ||
And he would say, listen, my girl was in a hit-and-run accident, and this guy, he took off, but someone got the plate, and they didn't get it all, but they got this amount of it. | ||
And the guy would go, well, that definitely wasn't me. | ||
Hey, wow, I'm so sorry to hear that. | ||
Is she okay? | ||
They go, well, she's going to be all right, but she's got a bulging disc in her L7, which is exactly what this guy's injury was. | ||
And the person would go, that's crazy. | ||
I have that same injury. | ||
Oh, no kidding, huh? | ||
Well, you're getting the compensation? | ||
And the guy would go, yeah, you're getting paid? | ||
Oh, yeah, yeah, it's great. | ||
And I'm also working under another name. | ||
They would just tell you. | ||
This woman told us that very story. | ||
She told us she was working under her maiden name. | ||
Then she had us inside for coffee. | ||
This is how crazy people were in 1988. They have you in their fucking house for coffee. | ||
We didn't know this lady. | ||
It was two men. | ||
Two men. | ||
I mean, me, I was 21, and he was probably like 31, 32 at the time. | ||
And he had us in her fucking house and drink coffee with us. | ||
And Dave's asking her, so how do you work that? | ||
And she's telling him, you know, well, she's my maiden name. | ||
Like, so what happened to you? | ||
And he's tape recording it. | ||
No, no, he's just listening. | ||
Just listening. | ||
So he goes, so did you get hurt? | ||
Or did you just bullshit the whole thing? | ||
She's like, well, I got hurt a little bit, but I was fine a little. | ||
So I went to the doctor, and the doctor looked at me like, gee, She gave up the whole story, and then we left. | ||
I was like, God, I feel so bad. | ||
We can't rat her out. | ||
She was so nice. | ||
He goes, fuck her! | ||
She goes, fuck her! | ||
We got in the car, and I felt terrible, because this lady was so nice, and she let us in on her scammer. | ||
Fuck her! | ||
She's a fucking scammer! | ||
Fuck her! | ||
He would never, ever show any sympathy for those people that were scamming insurance. | ||
That was the game. | ||
It was like, I'm the sheepdog. | ||
You're the coyote. | ||
I'm going to jack you. | ||
It's like that cartoon. | ||
So you wouldn't follow him. | ||
You would just see him walking and then you'd go up to him. | ||
Totally depends. | ||
Sometimes we would actually show up at the job site. | ||
We'd catch a guy on a roof with a fucking bag of shingles on his back. | ||
And then what do you do? | ||
What do you say? | ||
Just find out where the guy is. | ||
Take photos. | ||
He had a camera. | ||
Take photos of the guy. | ||
And go, look, this guy's working. | ||
Okay. | ||
And then what usually would happen, I believe, the way they would work is the insurance company would threaten the person and would say they're going to have them arrested for fraud. | ||
And then the person would either settle or they would maybe have to pay some of the money back. | ||
The insurance company just knew they were being scammed. | ||
Yeah. | ||
And they didn't want to... | ||
Did you ever have to fuck anybody up? | ||
No, no, no. | ||
Nothing ever got ugly. | ||
Nothing even got yelly. | ||
What year was this? | ||
88. 80 fucking 8. Yeah, Dave was like real good at talking to people. | ||
But he loved it. | ||
He loved the scamming people. | ||
He loved it. | ||
He just loved it. | ||
He said, oh, you're getting paid though, aren't you? | ||
He would love baiting them in and getting them to talk about it. | ||
And he would get in the car and start laughing. | ||
That fucking dummy, he gave us everything. | ||
Look at these photos. | ||
Perfect. | ||
He goes. | ||
Fuck him. | ||
He goes. | ||
Fuck him. | ||
How would Joey do him? | ||
That would be rough. | ||
I'd have to think about that. | ||
I don't know, man. | ||
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Fuck him! | |
But he just died of cancer. | ||
He just died of cancer last week. | ||
Real quick, apparently. | ||
I started getting some emails and messages about it, and I was like, no way. | ||
When was the last time you talked to him? | ||
Last time I was in Boston just a few months ago, and I'm going back to Boston in January, and I was going to get him tickets to the fights, and I was hoping to have some dinner with him or something, hang out with him. | ||
But we stayed friends. | ||
We stayed friends all this time. | ||
He was a good dude, man. | ||
Stayed being a private investigator. | ||
Every now and then he would call me up with some crazy fucking story. | ||
One of them was this guy whose girlfriend was getting fucked by this bodybuilder. | ||
She was meeting this gorilla who was just ragdolling her. | ||
Just fucking savage fucking her. | ||
And this guy kept wanting to get her followed. | ||
The guy was a real nerdy guy. | ||
He's a computer guy. | ||
And his girlfriend was just getting mauled all the time by this dude. | ||
And he suspected it, so he hired us a private investigator. | ||
And then Dave was like, dude, I can't keep taking pictures of your girl getting fucked by this giant guy. | ||
It's starting to get creepy. | ||
Okay? | ||
So we're done here. | ||
But him telling him, this guy's like, oh, go follow her tomorrow. | ||
Follow her tomorrow? | ||
Are you looking at the pictures I'm looking at? | ||
Because he would, like, take pictures of this guy just stuffing her. | ||
I need more pictures. | ||
He probably loved those pictures. | ||
Oh, I bet he did. | ||
Well, he's probably a cuckold, you know? | ||
Like, that's what they say. | ||
That's like a whole style of porn now. | ||
It's like a guy, it's usually, like, black guys. | ||
Like, a white guy who's a nerd, he's like, um, yeah, sure, come on in. | ||
Like, oh, man, it's your wife? | ||
Oh, shit, I don't need your wife. | ||
Who's this hot? | ||
Uh, she is my wife. | ||
Um, I'm not sure if I want you talking about her like that. | ||
Talking about her, blah, blah, fuck her. | ||
This bitch wants my dick. | ||
Oh, she wants his dick, bitch. | ||
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Oh, she's sucking my dick right in front of you. | |
There's porn like that. | ||
And there's an old man. | ||
There's always old husbands and shit. | ||
No, she's like a feeble guy. | ||
A feeble guy and a black guy with a fucking shillelagh. | ||
She never pulls his dick out? | ||
Black guy's dick? | ||
No, no, no, the guy. | ||
I'm sure there's no way the white guys pull their dick out. | ||
Yeah, most of the time the white guys- The guy getting abused? | ||
The husband never fucks? | ||
Well, I'm sure there's someone who the husband fucks too. | ||
I'm sure there's someone who the husband gets fucked. | ||
That would kill it. | ||
I'm sure there's someone who the husband has to suck the guy's dick. | ||
Like maybe the wife fucks the hu- Maybe the husband has to sit there. | ||
This is the ultimate cuckold. | ||
The husband has to sit there while this giant fucking super athlete fucks his girl and then when the guy comes, he comes in the husband's mouth. | ||
It's the ultimate one. | ||
It's the only time the husband sucks the guy's dick, but Azzy, get over here, get your head over here! | ||
He puts the guy's head right down on the wife's stomach while he's just fucking plowing it, and then he pulls it out and stuffs it in the dude's mouth. | ||
Right now, someone's writing this down, and they're making this video. | ||
They're like, we're shooting it this week. | ||
Dudes on Twitter sending you links that already exist. | ||
It's like a whole trilogy. | ||
That's actually quite normal. | ||
It's probably a website. | ||
Oh, comeinthehusbandsmouth.com. | ||
You've never been? | ||
You don't even know that website, bro? | ||
Yeah. | ||
Whatever you can think of, man. | ||
When we were first, when you were first exposed to porn, I was exposed like in high school. | ||
That's when I first found out about porn. | ||
It was all so normal. | ||
It was just the worst thing that would happen is two people get together and they'd have sex. | ||
That was it. | ||
That was all that ever happened. | ||
But then somewhere around the time, like we were in a... | ||
Germans! | ||
In the Japanese. | ||
You mean shit porn. | ||
That's not even porn. | ||
That's just fucking weird. | ||
But even just regular porn became more about gagging and fucking... | ||
Gagging? | ||
Yeah, girls. | ||
Even when they suck dick now, it's like they're doing it like they're trying to kill themselves. | ||
Is that the new thing? | ||
Is that the new thing? | ||
I didn't know that. | ||
The gagging noises is good? | ||
There's a lot of that, dude. | ||
You've never seen? | ||
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Gag, bitch, gag! | |
Oh, there's a lot of that. | ||
It seems like people got bored with the regular stuff, and then it got more and more and more. | ||
Gag me later. | ||
Gag at me. | ||
Scream at me later and I'll make you gag. | ||
Too long. | ||
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Hashtag. | |
Hashtag scream at me later and I'll make you gag. | ||
Oh, man. | ||
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I was talking about this the other day with Chris Ryan. | |
Porn, like the look of a girl's vagina, like shaved vaginas, that's the only way now. | ||
Like there's very few bushes. | ||
If a girl has a bush these days, like she's taking a big chance. | ||
She's being very eccentric. | ||
But back then, it was all bushes. | ||
There was a point in time, when I was like 22, that I actually preferred a little bush. | ||
Because when girls would shave, it would like, burn, like, it would like, scafe my cock. | ||
You know what I mean? | ||
Because of the stubble. | ||
But when they left it kind of bushy, it was all nice and squishy. | ||
Felt better. | ||
Good point. | ||
I was really into it, so when a girl had a little bush, I'm like, damn, I'd like to squish into her. | ||
Some girls get all crazy lasered and shit. | ||
They do their legs, their pussy and everything. | ||
Nothing wrong with that. | ||
Laser that shit. | ||
But isn't that nuts, man, that we use a light beam to cook the skin? | ||
We don't want hair on them. | ||
Are there cultures where girls with hairy legs are hot? | ||
Must be. | ||
There's got to be a couple countries. | ||
At least three. | ||
Well, how about that country in Africa? | ||
Was it Suri, where they cut their lips and they put plates in them? | ||
Yep. | ||
And the bigger the plate, the more cattle you're worth when you get married? | ||
Yep. | ||
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What? | |
Who's fucking... | ||
I want to know that story! | ||
I want a documentary on how that happened. | ||
The evolution of that big plate on that lip. | ||
When did it get cool? | ||
Who brought it up? | ||
Who is the Helio Gracie of them lip fucking plates? | ||
Who made that shit up? | ||
You know what I mean? | ||
There's gotta be a story. | ||
Well, I've heard speculation that the way they did it, they made the girl's lip like that so that she wouldn't be attractive to slaves, to slavers, to people that were trying to get slaves. | ||
How did it get to that point? | ||
I know, right? | ||
Everyone agreed on that? | ||
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Well... | |
Don't a lot of people that have a lot of metal in their face and shit, and a lot of people have crazy piercings in their cheeks and their nose and their lips, don't people usually say that that's a sign, and this is total bro psychology, right? | ||
But that that's a sign of people that have been abused? | ||
Isn't that usually a sign of people that have had something bad happen to them? | ||
Maybe like back in olden times, before there was mental institutions, like the crazy people of the village, the big cities, like in Rome, all the crazy people, they just went out to the fucking jungle and started their own little culture, and some of them were fucking nuts. | ||
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Like, who thought of these stories? | |
How did the Romans get all the way to Africa? | ||
Did they ever make it to Africa? | ||
Who invented that platelip? | ||
Yeah. | ||
I think it was probably... | ||
It makes sense, though, if you look at, like, when you see... | ||
Okay, if you see a girl with a bunch of shit in her face, don't you immediately assume, like, oh, this girl's probably molested. | ||
Don't you? | ||
Yeah. | ||
Yeah, right? | ||
Whether or not that's fair or not? | ||
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Yeah. | |
Just being honest about... | ||
It's probably totally not true. | ||
It's probably totally not true, but... | ||
You assume it, right? | ||
Automatically. | ||
We've developed a correlation between people that like girls with face tattoos or five eyebrow rings and a nose ring and two lip rings and a tongue ring. | ||
Okay, what's going on here? | ||
There's definitely signs of abuse. | ||
Like for me, growing up with long hair, that was a I thought when I was growing up, my dad was never around and my stepdad didn't give a shit. | ||
I thought, that doesn't affect me. | ||
I'm too strong. | ||
I'm 12, 13. I'm 15, 16. I'm always thinking that never affected me. | ||
I didn't need a fucking dad. | ||
It was always that way. | ||
That didn't affect me. | ||
But when I look back at the pictures of my big Mexican family, there's all these normal looking people. | ||
And then there's the dude at the wedding with the long hair who's pissed off that he's there and not hanging out with his friends. | ||
It was always me, pissed off. | ||
Pictures just like this. | ||
It was normal for me to be at the wedding, at the quinceanera, at the big whatever shindig, just pissed off that I'm not with my friends and playing music and listening to Slayer and shit. | ||
And I thought I wasn't affected. | ||
I was so affected. | ||
I was a drummer in speed metal bands writing satanic lyrics. | ||
And I thought I wasn't affected. | ||
My hair was long. | ||
I was always in a pissed off mood. | ||
Like, oh no, I'm fine. | ||
I'm fine. | ||
That shit, I'm too strong for that shit! | ||
Fuck my dad! | ||
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I don't need him! | |
I didn't give a shit! | ||
But damn, he damaged me! | ||
Of course. | ||
There was damage right there, shit! | ||
Every kid that doesn't get paid attention to, it's a core component of being a human being. | ||
Like food, like water, like... | ||
Being out in the sun, all those things are important for the development of a human being. | ||
Attention and love from your family is what makes you a loving person. | ||
You become loving when you're loved. | ||
When you're not loved, you turn inward, you get angry, you get aggressive. | ||
That's what happens to people. | ||
It's natural. | ||
When you find people that are abused, a lot of times those people wind up being abusive themselves. | ||
They lash out. | ||
I wonder if that is what happened with the Suri women, that they were being taken as slaves, and so they just started doing fucked up shit to their face to make themselves unattractive. | ||
And they started their own little camp, and then it turned into a village, and then boom, it was a bunch of fucking crazy people. | ||
Started by like one crazy dude. | ||
It was like the one dude who's in those piercing circuses. | ||
What do you call those things? | ||
You know, that's like- Piercing circuses? | ||
Oh yeah, I know what you're talking about. | ||
You know, those crazy, weird freak shows, but with a lot of piercings and shit like that. | ||
Like, you know, like they have like a million, they're hanging from fucking, like some crane. | ||
Yeah. | ||
I mean, I'm down with tattoos, you know that. | ||
I like tattoos, but maybe not all over the face. | ||
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Generally... | |
Generally, you want a little bit, you know what I mean? | ||
Like the Mike Tyson one, I like it now. | ||
Mike Tyson's a bad motherfucker, I like it. | ||
And then Kat Von D got some stars and shit, a little bit. | ||
And you know, the neck ones are cool and all that shit too. | ||
That's all. | ||
But when you're hanging from a crane and you got these rings all around your skull and they're hanging you, Jesus, there's something. | ||
I want to know what happened. | ||
Yeah, something happened. | ||
Yeah, something happened. | ||
Maybe it was just like me. | ||
Maybe his father wasn't around and... | ||
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Well, just think about your situation was bad, right? | |
But we all know people who was way worse. | ||
You know, like, you got through uninjured, you know, no one was raping you. | ||
You know, there's like, you got through, like, relatively speaking. | ||
Absolutely. | ||
I never... | ||
I wouldn't change a thing about my life. | ||
Nor would I. But a lot of people didn't, right? | ||
And when you see really fucked up people, really crazy out there people, a lot of times that's what they're reacting to. | ||
Whatever kind of abuse it was, whether it was sexual abuse, whether it was violence, whether it was abandonment, whatever it is, whatever pain and hurting... | ||
Made them try to become something different. | ||
Try to seek out others like her or like him. | ||
That's what people do when they form these... | ||
It's like when you're talking about being at the wedding and wanting to be with your friends. | ||
I remember that exact same feeling. | ||
I only felt normal when I was with my friends. | ||
That's it. | ||
Every time else I was like, oh my god, I can't be here. | ||
I can't do this. | ||
I can't do this. | ||
I don't want to do this. | ||
I just got to go to my friends and everybody will relax together. | ||
We'll be able to talk and laugh and fuck off. | ||
That was like always the appeal of hanging out at the pool hall when I was young. | ||
When I started hanging out at this place called Executive Billiards in White Plains with my friend Johnny that died from drugs. | ||
That place was just, we were all misfits. | ||
It was like how the comedy store is. | ||
Mitzi Shore actually calls the comedy store the island of misfit toys. | ||
That's like her nickname for it. | ||
Because all these weirdos come from all over the world. | ||
But they all, they go there and they realize when they're there, like... | ||
There's other people like me. | ||
There's other people like me. | ||
I just had to find them. | ||
I just had to find these fuckers. | ||
They weren't at the wedding. | ||
They weren't at the quinceañera. | ||
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Yeah. | |
Back then, when I look at movies from the 80s, in those movies, you're looking at people that are not connected. | ||
They don't have that internet phone that we got. | ||
You know what I mean? | ||
It's like, that life, everyone is disconnected. | ||
The only thing that we were connected to was... | ||
TV and radio, the big networks. | ||
That's the only way we can connect. | ||
And, you know, people say that we're more connected now than ever. | ||
We are in a lot of ways, but in some ways, because we weren't individually connected, and there was only one source, NBC, CBS, ABC, that actually connected everybody. | ||
And there's everyone listening to the radio and And the radio stations were creating stars and everybody saw different strokes. | ||
You went to school and everyone saw 8.30 Friday night on NBC. Everyone knew these were special spots. | ||
That's how everyone got connected in these special Eight o'clock on Thursday, cheers and shit. | ||
Everyone got, they were so connected, way more connected. | ||
Now, people aren't on those, like the radio doesn't have that much power. | ||
I never listen to fucking radio, ever. | ||
I'm listening to like satellite radio and shit. | ||
I never listen to radio. | ||
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Yeah. | |
Never. | ||
It's always satellite. | ||
So everyone is like less, more connected to their niche. | ||
But there's shit that's huge out there like this. | ||
I was driving down the street and I saw this billboard in downtown LA. It's King Daddy. | ||
King Daddy's a white guy, or apparently he's Latin, but he looks like a white guy, like Vanilla Ice, and says King Daddy. | ||
I thought it was like, are they filming a fucking movie, like some kind of parody movie here? | ||
That's what I thought it was. | ||
And then I looked and I go, this is the craziest thing, he's playing at the Staples, King Daddy, I've never heard of him. | ||
I Wikipedia him, he's fucking huge! | ||
Like, holy shit! | ||
There's people that are huge, and because we're so disconnected with everybody, we're just connected more and more with the people that are like us, and then that's it. | ||
Then we could shut everybody out. | ||
We don't have to be all together. | ||
But the old way, in that one way about NBC, CBS, and we all saw the news in 60 Minutes, we were, at some times, at those periods, we were all connected. | ||
All of us, boom! | ||
We were all like one. | ||
We all knew the same shit. | ||
But now, we're all on our own planet now. | ||
It's so true. | ||
I'll go to someone's Twitter page and they're a musician. | ||
I'm like, who is this guy? | ||
Five million Twitter followers. | ||
I'm like, what the fuck? | ||
I've never heard of this person. | ||
You would know that guy because we would all be on those same channels. | ||
Everybody would be on the same... | ||
Now we're all... | ||
We get our news from different places. | ||
Do people still really watch the news on Fox News? | ||
It's like... | ||
There's a lot of people that do, though, man. | ||
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It's crazy. | |
There's not just a lot of people that do. | ||
There's a lot of people that only follow right-wing news sources. | ||
So they have a right-wing news idea. | ||
And that's the only thing they talk about. | ||
And so if they interact with something online, clearly you haven't been paying attention because that's been debunked. | ||
You're like, okay, how's it been debunked? | ||
And you'll go and, like, read how it's been debunked. | ||
That hasn't been debunked at all. | ||
Everything's been debunked. | ||
There's a debunk for a debunk for a debunk for a debunk. | ||
Everything, like, debunked. | ||
It's really simple. | ||
It's like, where you get... | ||
It really is an info war, just like Alex Jones says. | ||
It really is. | ||
It isn't about this theory and then that theory and the official story. | ||
Everyone goes to science. | ||
But science, that is what people need to... | ||
It's not just science. | ||
It's unbiased science. | ||
Ken, where's the science coming from? | ||
Let's look at the science. | ||
You're just reading something off the internet. | ||
Where's that science come from? | ||
So it really is information because it's so easy to brainwash people nowadays. | ||
It's so easy. | ||
The media is under control. | ||
I think it's way harder. | ||
I think it's way harder to get people to believe shit now than ever before. | ||
It's way harder to control a narrative. | ||
I think they're doing a brilliant job, man. | ||
Who's that? | ||
I mean, just like most people think that 9-11 wasn't an inside job. | ||
Most people believe that Tower 7 fell because of fires because the government told them. | ||
I mean, that's scary shit, man. | ||
It is, but what if 9-11 wasn't an inside job? | ||
I mean, spending all this time thinking it was. | ||
What if it was just a bunch of incompetent people, a bunch of people that all... | ||
I mean, the amount of people that had to be involved... | ||
To make it a conspiracy would be pretty big, right? | ||
Would it be more likely that there's a bunch of fucking idiots running the government, which we've always known are true, than to have this one mastermind stroke of genius? | ||
No, not at all. | ||
When you look at the evidence, I mean, when the 9-11 commissioner... | ||
I feel like we shouldn't have gone down this road. | ||
It's really simple. | ||
When the 9-11 commissioner... | ||
We have video, a bunch of different angles of Tower 7 coming down. | ||
We have that video. | ||
Tower 7 is unquestionably one of the hardest things to answer. | ||
So you just got to just, like a detective, you got to look at it like a detective. | ||
You got, okay, that building came down. | ||
So the people want to know what happened at Tower 7. How come it looks like a demo? | ||
It looks like it exploded. | ||
It must be exploded. | ||
That's the conspiracy theory. | ||
What does the government say? | ||
Nothing. | ||
It's not in the 9-11 commission report. | ||
They deny it. | ||
They don't say anything. | ||
They don't acknowledge it. | ||
After public pressure of wanting to know if that was a controlled demo or not, we want a real investigation. | ||
Finally, in 2008, NIST finally came out. | ||
A government agency comes out and they ask him. | ||
They go, what? | ||
He gives a little presentation that Tower 7 was brought down because it got too hot. | ||
And then he starts fielding questions and they said, why didn't you guys test for explosives? | ||
This is what this is all about. | ||
You know what he said the answer was? | ||
There were no witnesses that said they heard explosions. | ||
That was his answer. | ||
And there's endless, endless video after video after video after video after video. | ||
Firemen, policemen, witness after witness after witness after witness. | ||
There's all on video. | ||
And then the bombs went off. | ||
And then the whole lobby was just bombs. | ||
And then we turned around. | ||
We were going down the elevator. | ||
And the elevator blew up. | ||
And everyone's saying bombs. | ||
The newscasters are saying while they're there. | ||
Everyone's saying bombs are going off everywhere. | ||
They took all that shit. | ||
And fucking buried it. | ||
They were saying, there's all this... | ||
They said, NIST, it's on video. | ||
They're saying, we didn't have any... | ||
They go, you didn't check for explosives? | ||
They go, no, we didn't check for explosives. | ||
There was no witnesses that said they heard explosions. | ||
And there was a shitload. | ||
I gotta repeat it. | ||
You know, when you look at that, what does that tell you? | ||
What it tells you is they're fucking gangsters, man. | ||
They're fucking lying. | ||
They're gangsters. | ||
It's really simple. | ||
It's possible they're gangsters. | ||
It's also possible that they're retarded. | ||
It's also possible that they're trying to figure out a way to explain something that they just did a really shitty job explaining in the past. | ||
I'm not an architect. | ||
I'm not an engineer. | ||
I don't understand how buildings, what they need to stay up. | ||
I don't understand what can bring them down. | ||
When I look at that though, it looks like a controlled demolition. | ||
It behaves exactly the same. | ||
I've never heard of a building that falls apart like that and just breaks apart in free fall. | ||
But What do I know? | ||
I mean, I don't know. | ||
There was apparently massive fires all throughout the building because there was some diesel fuel that they had in the basement, giant diesel tanks. | ||
And if those things were on fire, and if the building was on fire in some sort of a crazy way where it weakened the whole thing, however unlikely, where uniformly once one part of it gave out, it just gave in. | ||
They didn't test for explosives. | ||
I understand that. | ||
But what would disturb me about that scenario that I just said was, why didn't someone sue for that building falling apart? | ||
Like, I would think that if that was my building, and my building just caved in when it caught on fire, I'd be like, let me show you fuckheads some videos of buildings that didn't cave in because they were a blaze, just on fire, like every fucking corner of the building is fire. | ||
And this is just fire inside the building that fell apart. | ||
I would sue. | ||
It's all fucked up. | ||
There's so much, it's so deep. | ||
So what do you think happened? | ||
What do you think happened if you believe this? | ||
If you believe that this is a conspiracy to take down Tower 7? | ||
Well, this is, I want to say this. | ||
I always thought I was, I knew the 9-11 conspiracy quite well. | ||
I kind of understood how it, you know, I could argue with people. | ||
I thought I was a brown belt. | ||
Oh my god. | ||
I watched this documentary that I don't even know if it's out yet. | ||
The dude who put it together, he sent it to me. | ||
It's five hours long. | ||
Five hours long. | ||
I watched it twice already. | ||
And it's all news clips. | ||
And he's narrating through it. | ||
He's got so much information about how it went fucking down. | ||
Alex Jones is like a purple belt compared to this guy. | ||
His name is Ryan Dawson. | ||
And the documentary is The Empire Unmasked. | ||
Unmasked. | ||
I kiss unmasked. | ||
The Empire Unmasked. | ||
I can't even say unmasked. | ||
But holy shit. | ||
Shit. | ||
It gets so fucking deep. | ||
It's like watching a movie that was a book, watching the movie, and then watching it three times, and then going back and reading the book, and you're like, oh my god, there's so much shit. | ||
There's such a backstory and there's all these different players and all this evidence that was... | ||
Dude, there's no way anybody could watch that documentary and still think, and he's got all the evidence, dude. | ||
He breaks it all down, dude. | ||
There's so much. | ||
There's so much. | ||
One of my favorite things about 9-11 that never gets brought up was the press conference that Donald Rumsfeld had the day before the Pentagon got hit where he was talking about all the money that was missing. | ||
It was like trillions of dollars, right? | ||
Like trillions of dollars they couldn't account for. | ||
And then the plane slams into the accounting department. | ||
I mean, if we are living in a movie, this is an awesome movie. | ||
I want to know if that is true. | ||
Find out if the plane that hit the Pentagon hit the accounting department. | ||
It did. | ||
That's what everybody always says. | ||
The Naval Intelligence Office, which was investigating a lot of these illegal securities. | ||
It was all, dude, it was, according to this documentary, The Empire in Mass, in a nutshell. | ||
In a nutshell. | ||
In a nutshell. | ||
Aliens. | ||
Saudi Arabia... | ||
First I want to say. | ||
I love this country. | ||
I love the United States. | ||
It's Memorial Day. | ||
How dare you, Eddie Bravo. | ||
I'm just scared of the government. | ||
That's all. | ||
I love the country, but we have some... | ||
In every government, people would agree that there's a criminal element in every government. | ||
Everybody believes that there's crooks running shit, right? | ||
So I'm not saying anything that crazy. | ||
According to this documentary... | ||
Dude, you've got to go way back like 100 years. | ||
It's all tied together. | ||
From the Banana Wars in the early 1900s, it's all about drug trade between controlling Central America. | ||
First of all, before you go into any conspiracy theories, the one conspiracy theory that's real is the Iran-Contra conspiracy theory. | ||
That's actually real. | ||
It's out. | ||
If you look into it, what was it? | ||
George Bush Sr. got busted. | ||
Him and Oliver North. | ||
There was a few key people doing some shit that the rest of the government didn't know about. | ||
That's a conspiracy theory. | ||
They were running guns and drugs through Arkansas. | ||
And Iran and Israel were all involved. | ||
It's a big drug problem. | ||
Arms ring. | ||
That's all it is. | ||
They're all making money off it. | ||
The banana wars were all about the drugs. | ||
The United States used to, with other countries, go in and fucking jack them and take their shit. | ||
Then they realized it's easier if we just control the government. | ||
We'll organize a coup. | ||
And we'll pull our guy in and we'll just take that shit. | ||
We don't need to fight them. | ||
So they just pulled all the military out. | ||
And they've been doing that. | ||
It's all this Nicaragua, the Iran contract. | ||
They got busted, but they've been doing it forever. | ||
It's like a family business when you're at the top. | ||
They got busted. | ||
That's not a conspiracy theory. | ||
They used to think it was a conspiracy theory in the 70s. | ||
Everyone's got a conspiracy theory. | ||
There's news reports. | ||
People are like, it's crazy. | ||
And then it comes out 10 years later. | ||
They get busted. | ||
Ronald Reagan says he didn't know shit. | ||
He doesn't recall shit. | ||
The vice president is George Sr. He's the ex-head of the CIA. He's running the whole fucking thing. | ||
I'm well aware of the story. | ||
They get busted. | ||
We have to be careful. | ||
No, but they get busted. | ||
You gotta explain this. | ||
It's right there in the early 80s. | ||
The shit that happened from JFK and beyond. | ||
JFK is connected to Iran Contra, which is connected to 9-11. | ||
It's all the same fucking players. | ||
It's all the same. | ||
It's a big old drug cartel going on. | ||
It's a corporate... | ||
It's all about... | ||
The mob sells the drugs that the government brings in. | ||
They always had a mob relationship. | ||
There's always been the government running drugs using the mob to make money for covert operations. | ||
They've always done that shit. | ||
That's the way they do it. | ||
And everything that's happening in the Middle East... | ||
That's all it is to America. | ||
Israel, they want to fuck up. | ||
They wanted to fuck up Iraq. | ||
The criminal element. | ||
They want. | ||
But the United States are like, they need to control the poppy seeds. | ||
So it was oil, drugs, the same shit. | ||
They just needed a reason to get in there. | ||
Everybody knows that we invaded Iraq because of 9-11. | ||
But they're... | ||
Now we know that there's zero connection. | ||
That was all bullshit. | ||
We know that's a fact. | ||
That's not a conspiracy theory. | ||
There was no weapons of mass destruction. | ||
We just needed a reason to get in there. | ||
Dude, there's documents that they talk about this. | ||
These great PNAC, this group, like how are we going to take over and what is the best route to We need a reason to get into the Middle East and control. | ||
We need a big event. | ||
It's on fucking paper. | ||
They don't even give a shit. | ||
You ever see the video where General Wesley Clark starts talking about invading, like what's going to be done? | ||
The timeline that's been laid out for the United States to invade all these other countries and take over. | ||
Have you ever seen that? | ||
I heard something about that. | ||
You never seen the video? | ||
No. | ||
What is it? | ||
You should watch it, because it's pretty fascinating. | ||
What's it called? | ||
General Wesley Clark, who's a guy who ran for president. | ||
I think he ran for president in 2004? | ||
Yeah. | ||
When did he run for president? | ||
2008, maybe? | ||
Maybe 2008. Whenever it was that he ran for president. | ||
He was a... | ||
Four? | ||
He was a just decorated general and a patriot, a war hero, a guy who was really well-respected. | ||
And I believe it was on Charlie Rose. | ||
And he laid out the government's plan. | ||
You would be fascinated by this. | ||
I'll play it for you. | ||
Sounds like Agenda 21, maybe? | ||
He's explaining what he was privy to as a four-star general or whatever he was. | ||
And in this video, for people to listen to this going, this is all crazy conspiracy talk. | ||
When you hear a guy like Wesley Clark... | ||
Presidential candidate, very decorated, very well-respected general, saying these things. | ||
Listen to what he says. | ||
Got it? | ||
Listen to us. | ||
About 10 days after 9-11, I went through the Pentagon and I saw Secretary Rumsfeld and Deputy Secretary Wolfowitz. | ||
I went downstairs just to say hello to some of the people on the Joint Staff. | ||
We've made the decision we're going to war with Iraq. | ||
This was on Urbani. | ||
He said, sir, you got to come in and talk to me a second. | ||
I said, September. | ||
I said, we're going to war with Iraq. | ||
Why? | ||
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He said, I don't know. | |
He said, I guess they don't know what else to do. | ||
So, I said, well, did they find some information connecting Saddam to al-Qaeda? | ||
He said, no, no. | ||
He said, there's nothing new that way. | ||
They just made the decision to go to war with Iraq. | ||
He said, I guess it's like, we don't know what to do about terrorists, but we've got a good military and we can take a nail. | ||
So I came back to see him a few weeks later, and by that time we were bombing in Afghanistan. | ||
I said, are we still going to war with Iraq? | ||
And he said, oh, it's worse than that. | ||
He said, down governments. | ||
And he said, I guess if the only tool you have is a hammer every problem. | ||
He reached over on his desk. | ||
He picked up a piece of paper. | ||
He said, I just got this down from upstairs, meeting the Secretary of Defense's office today. | ||
And he said, this is a memo that describes how we're going to take out seven countries In five years, starting with Iraq and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and finishing off Iran. | ||
Come on, man. | ||
Now, this is the scariest part of this. | ||
This is the scariest. | ||
You want to keep it going? | ||
Had there been no oil there, it would be like Africa. | ||
Nobody is threatening to intervene in Africa. | ||
The problem is the opposite. | ||
We keep asking for people to intervene and stop it. | ||
And there's no question that the presence of petroleum throughout the region has sparked great power involvement. | ||
Whether that was the specific motivation for the coup or not, I can't tell you. | ||
But there's always been this attitude that somehow we could intervene and use force in the region. | ||
Boom. | ||
Yeah, the scariest thing is you could watch something like this, and like a skeptic who doesn't believe in any conspiracy, you could watch this, they'll watch it, and something like they've been programmed, like they've been hypnotized, like no matter what, obey the official story. | ||
Do you see that video that was just about to come up? | ||
Major Smedley Butler? | ||
Check that out. | ||
The video that was about to come up was the letter that Major Smedley Butler wrote in like 1930-something. | ||
And he was another famous war hero who wrote a letter realizing when he was leaving the military that war is a racket. | ||
Major General Smedley Butler and the fascist takeover of the USA. Does it play anything? | ||
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You can roughly locate any community somewhere along a scale running all the way from democracy to despotism. | |
This man makes it his job to study these things. | ||
Well, for one thing, avoid the comfortable idea that the mere form of government can of itself safeguard a nation against despotism. | ||
For big business, despotism was often a useful tool for securing foreign markets and pursuing profits. | ||
One of the US Marine Corps' most highly decorated generals, Smedley Darlington Butler, by his own account, helped pacify Mexico for American oil companies, Haiti and Cuba for National City Bank. | ||
Nicaragua for the Brown Brothers brokerage, the Dominican Republic for sugar interests, Honduras for U.S. fruit companies, and China for Standard Oil. | ||
General Butler's services were also in demand in the United States itself in the 1930s, as President Franklin Delano Roosevelt sought to relieve the misery of the Depression through public enterprise and tougher regulations on corporate exploitation and misdeeds. | ||
More power to you, President Roosevelt. | ||
The entire country's behind you, thrilled with hope and patriotism. | ||
But the country was not entirely behind the populist president. | ||
Large parts of the corporate elite despised what Roosevelt's New Deal stood for. | ||
And so, in 1934, a group of conspirators sought to involve General Butler in a treasonous plan. | ||
The plan, as outlined to me, was to form an organization of veterans. | ||
To use as a bluff, or as a club at least, to intimidate the government. | ||
But the corporate cabal had picked the wrong man. | ||
Butler was fed up with being what he called a gangster for capitalism. | ||
I appeared before the Congressional Committee, the highest representation of the American people, under subpoena to tell what I knew of activities, which I believe might lead to an attempt to set up a fascist dictatorship. which I believe might lead to an attempt to set The upshot of the whole thing was that I was supposed to lead an organization of 500,000 men, which would be able to take over the functions of government. | ||
How crazy is that? | ||
A congressional committee ultimately found evidence of a plot to overthrow Roosevelt. | ||
According to Butler, the conspiracy included representatives of some of America's top corporations, including C.P. Morgan, DuPont, and Goodyear Tyre. | ||
As today's chairman of Goodyear Tyre knows, for corporations to dominate government, a coup is no longer necessary. | ||
Corporations have gone global. | ||
And by going global, the governments have lost some control over corporations, regardless of whether the corporation can be trusted or cannot be trusted. | ||
Governments today do not have, over the corporations, the power that they had and the leverage that they had 50 or 60 years ago. | ||
And that's a major change. | ||
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So governments have become powerless compared to where they were before. | |
Capitalism today commands the towering heights and has displaced politics and politicians as the new high priests and reigning oligarchs of our system. | ||
So capitalism and its principal protagonists and players, corporate CEOs, have been accorded unusual power and access. | ||
This is not to deny the significance of government and politicians, but these are the new high priests. | ||
Okay. | ||
Well, that's pretty much proven what you're saying. | ||
I mean, when you look at that, you look at Iran-Contra, and this is the scariest part, is you know how a certain amount of people can be hypnotized? | ||
You know, you go to a hypnotist's show, the guy before the show starts, he does a couple tests, and he goes, I got that idiot, and I got that motherfucker. | ||
All you others sit down. | ||
He knows. | ||
He can figure it out. | ||
That's not like conspiracy theory, right? | ||
That's pretty crazy that he knows that there's a few people that he can hypnotize and there's others that he can't. | ||
So then he makes them do weird shit. | ||
Is hypnotism real? | ||
Can people be hypnotized? | ||
Is it real that you can hypnotize someone, wake them up, they appear to be woken up, and when they hear you say a certain word, they react a certain way? | ||
Is that real? | ||
I think it's real. | ||
Is that real? | ||
With some people, if they get good enough at it, I've seen documentaries, but maybe they're hoaxes. | ||
I don't know. | ||
I don't know if they're real. | ||
I'm pretty sure... | ||
Well, I've been hypnotized, and hypnotism is real. | ||
Okay. | ||
So it is real. | ||
It puts you... | ||
Well, it's not... | ||
At least with me, what the guy was trying to do was not what I think would be done if someone was trying to get you to do something like that. | ||
But if it's... | ||
If... | ||
Is it possible to hypnotize someone in their own, whatever way, whatever way works, and tell them when you wake up, when you hear the bell, you're going to react a certain way or you're going to think a certain way? | ||
Yes. | ||
And so that person could be totally awake at work and then you could say something and they react a certain way. | ||
Is that real? | ||
That I'm not sure of. | ||
It appears that- I think that's given a lot of time from the hypnosis event. | ||
Oh no, not at work. | ||
I don't know if it works at work, but I don't know why I said at work, but I'm just saying if it worked, who knows? | ||
Maybe it's supposed to wear off after five minutes or ten minutes. | ||
When does it wear off? | ||
Well, you change states. | ||
If you're in a state of anger or a state of depression, there's a state that you achieve when you get hypnotized. | ||
Even though you're aware of it, you're awake. | ||
If it's possible. | ||
Let me just explain what it feels like. | ||
It felt like I was on drugs. | ||
I went to some weird K-hole or something like that. | ||
It was very strange. | ||
It felt very almost, I want to say out of body, but inner body. | ||
But I was awake. | ||
I was never asleep. | ||
But if anything crazy happened, like an alarm went off, I would have got right up. | ||
I would have been fine. | ||
In that state, like someone can talk you into that state and you put yourself, you willingly allow yourself to get into that state. | ||
That's, for me, in this situation, if it was a different situation and it was a more gullible person or more easily led person, and then the hypnosis professional was like more into doing that, more into... | ||
Hypnosis, Joe. | ||
Hypnosis professional, it's not... | ||
Hypnotist, okay. | ||
If that guy was more into getting you to remember a certain noise or a certain sound, and when you heard that sound, you're going to associate with something. | ||
Yeah, something. | ||
I think that's possible. | ||
Okay, so let's assume that's real and it probably is. | ||
It might be all hoaxes, but I've seen documentaries. | ||
I don't know for sure. | ||
It's a documentary. | ||
I don't think it is a hoax. | ||
So let's just assume it's real. | ||
If that's real, then you can say that a certain percent of the population It can be hypnotized, right? | ||
Just like that. | ||
Not everybody, but a certain... | ||
What is that percentage? | ||
Let's just say... | ||
Let's just guess and say, what if it's 30% of the population has hypnotism abilities? | ||
It might be everyone if you allow yourself to. | ||
Yes. | ||
It might be everyone. | ||
Exactly. | ||
It might be. | ||
Let's just say 30%. | ||
Let's say 60, 40, whatever. | ||
Then that... | ||
If those documentaries that we're talking about is true, if it is real that you could do that, then can you... | ||
The people that can be hypnotized, like 30% of them, can you program something on TV, whether it's in the news or whatever, something... | ||
Are they doing something to handle those people and get them to only believe in what they see on TV? You don't have to do it like that. | ||
You don't have to do it with... | ||
Would that be possible? | ||
Yeah, but you wouldn't do it that way. | ||
No, you'd have to sit down with those people and actually hypnotize them. | ||
You'd have to get them into that state. | ||
You have to know what kind of state they're in when you're bringing these suggestions into their mind. | ||
Sometimes I'm watching TV and I'm hypnotized. | ||
I'm watching narco high as fuck. | ||
Yeah, but that's different. | ||
I don't think the government is trying to hypnotize you through narcos. | ||
This is all I'm saying. | ||
You don't believe that, do you? | ||
What? | ||
The government's trying to hypnotize you through Netflix? | ||
Probably. | ||
I believe that. | ||
I don't think Netflix is in cahoot to the government. | ||
I've had meetings with them. | ||
They seem like normal people. | ||
But my point is, this is just my wild conspiracy theory that, I mean, an answer, an attempt to answer the question, why you can show someone film like that, like what you just, like, film like that, and there's five hours of shit like that. | ||
Okay. | ||
The Empire in Mass is five hours of shit like that. | ||
Okay. | ||
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What? | ||
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Just... | |
People can see it, they can see the build Tower 7 go boom, but they're gonna believe the government. | ||
Look, I keep saying this about Tower 7. Tower 7 looks to me like an implosion, looks to me like a demolition, but I don't know shit. | ||
I don't know shit. | ||
If there was a giant fire inside that building that caused the building to fail and it collapsed like that, and I'm talking all this crazy shit, I know they blew it up, I know they used bombs, then I'm an idiot. | ||
And so if I'm saying I know one way or the other, it's kind of crazy. | ||
You can't really say it. | ||
I don't have enough information. | ||
But you gotta have, based on what you see, your opinion. | ||
You know what I mean? | ||
Of course, no one knows for sure. | ||
That's not my opinion. | ||
My opinion is it looks like a controlled demolition. | ||
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Yeah. | |
Now, look, if you see a submission, okay, and you know it's a dogshit submission and the guy taps out, you go, well, that guy quit. | ||
Well, you'll know that guy quit because you'll know that that's not a good submission because you're an expert in submissions. | ||
When I see a building collapse like that, I'll say, yeah, it looks like a controlled demolition because that's what it looks like. | ||
But that doesn't mean it's a controlled demolition. | ||
It could easily have been... | ||
A crazy fire that caused a catastrophic failure of the structure of that building. | ||
And I don't know jack shit about structures of buildings. | ||
So I can't say that. | ||
Nobody is saying that you do. | ||
And no one is saying that you, based on what you're, like a juror isn't an expert in all this forensics, you're going on what the experts say. | ||
You're not going on, the juror's not going to go, well, I don't know if he killed him. | ||
I wasn't actually there. | ||
So I don't know. | ||
There's all this evidence. | ||
The juror has, based on the evidence, you have to, you know, it's... | ||
It's okay to say, based on all the gangster shit that's going on, they don't say shit for seven years. | ||
A detective would go, wait a minute. | ||
Let's get away from that. | ||
Here's what's interesting about that building. | ||
Here's one of the things that makes this theory more fascinating. | ||
And this is a fact. | ||
They had offices inside that building of the NSA. I think it was the CIA. Find out what offices were inside Tower 7. Because it was a crazy building. | ||
It wasn't just like a regular building. | ||
That building had some really nutty shit stored in it. | ||
Some crazy information in offices. | ||
It wasn't like, oh my god, they crushed the Prudential building. | ||
We lost all this insurance policy numbers and data. | ||
Nope. | ||
No, it wasn't that. | ||
No, it was way nuttier than that. | ||
It was like really intense foreign policy shit, intense financial shit. | ||
It was like there's some crazy offices inside there. | ||
What do you got there, Jamie? | ||
Here we go. | ||
Look at what was in Building 7. This is fucking fascinating. | ||
Can you imagine? | ||
Salmon, Smith& Barney, which is a financial company, Internal Revenue Service, Regional Council, U.S. Secret Service, American Express Bank International, Standard Chartered Bank, Provident Financial Management, Hartford Insurance Group. | ||
First State Management Group, Federal Loan Bank, a lot of banks, but here it goes NAIC Securities. | ||
Securities and Exchange Commission, that's when it gets really crazy. | ||
Security and Exchange Commission, that's the mother load of money right there. | ||
New York City Office of Emergency Management. | ||
What would a decent detective think based on all this? | ||
We'd go, no, they couldn't do it. | ||
You would look at that and you'd go, wow, it's convenient that that building collapsed because it seems like there's a lot of fucking tenants in there that probably had a lot of crazy information. | ||
The Secret Service, the Security Exchange Commission, and the Office of Emergency Management. | ||
That's a lot of, and then all those banks. | ||
It's just high-level gangster shit. | ||
Really, really important shit. | ||
High-level gangster shit. | ||
Who knows? | ||
I thought it was the CIA. I thought the CIA was in there as well. | ||
A small office at the CIA. Is that what it was? | ||
Eddie Bravo. | ||
He's a conspiracy theorist. | ||
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He knows. | |
I'm just a blue belt compared to Rye Dawson. | ||
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That guy breaks it all off. | |
Well, there's a lot of people that have spent their whole life looking at it. | ||
If it is what we said, or what I said, rather, a catastrophic failure of a structure based on... | ||
That's horseshit. | ||
You know that's horseshit. | ||
If that is, what a convenient building to collapse. | ||
It seems like those offices would have a lot of really crazy shit in them. | ||
And if a decent detective found out that, oh, it looks like over 2,000 architects risking their license, risking their credibility, is going to go against the government? | ||
Right, right, right. | ||
2,000 architects and engineers for truth, is that what you're talking about? | ||
They have the balls to do it. | ||
Everyone else is like, most people don't want any trouble. | ||
What I want to know is how many architects disagree with them and who's the better architect. | ||
Where's the video? | ||
Show me. | ||
But that's what I don't know. | ||
They don't have the balls because it's obvious. | ||
We're talking about obvious shit. | ||
I know you have to stay on the fence. | ||
I know this. | ||
No, dude, I have to. | ||
I stay on the fence because this is how I try to think. | ||
Yeah. | ||
But you've got to look at the evidence. | ||
You've got to look at the evidence. | ||
I'm looking at it. | ||
It takes them seven years to come out with a report, and then they don't test for explosives? | ||
I thought that when we were looking at that report, I thought we were going to see the CIA in there. | ||
It's less impressive with what we did have in there. | ||
Maybe that's not everything. | ||
Very well could be. | ||
I don't know if they would rig a building like that with explosives when they were building it in the possibility that something went wrong and they had to destroy evidence. | ||
No. | ||
No, but that could be possible. | ||
No one has even said that. | ||
You can't even bring that up because that has never been brought up. | ||
But wait a minute. | ||
That's what happened. | ||
If the building exploded, okay? | ||
If you do believe that the building was a controlled demolition, then someone rigged it. | ||
So the idea is, if they knew that these people were going to be in this building, they knew this building was going to be a high-security building, they could have rigged it with explosives when they were constructing it to make sure that in the event the building was taken. | ||
Why do you say that didn't happen? | ||
Because when did it get detonated? | ||
When did it get fitted? | ||
When did it get fitted with those explosives? | ||
Which takes weeks. | ||
That's what I'm saying. | ||
What I'm saying is, it's not my idea either. | ||
There's many people that are speculating that when the building was actually constructed, they constructed it with this possibility. | ||
They made it. | ||
Why are you saying no? | ||
No. | ||
Why do you say no? | ||
When you look at the whole story, I'm only bringing up Tower 7, but there's a million pieces to the story. | ||
When you put all the pieces together, you're like, that's just one part of it. | ||
Why are you convinced that that's how the building I brought down? | ||
What does this say? | ||
The Department of Defense and Central Intelligence Agency. | ||
Okay, yeah. | ||
They shared the 25th floor with the IRS. Okay, yeah. | ||
That's it. | ||
You want me to explain? | ||
Hold on. | ||
We're just reading the facts. | ||
So the Department of Defense and the Central Intelligence Agency were there on the 25th floor with the IRS. Floors 46 through 47 were mechanical floors, as were the bottom floors and part of the seventh floor. | ||
Okay. | ||
And that could all be bullshit. | ||
Who knows? | ||
That could just be someone just fucking around. | ||
That's Wikipedia, bro. | ||
That is locked. | ||
Where did that come from? | ||
That is locked down and tight. | ||
But why would you think that it's impossible for them to rig the building with explosives when they constructed it? | ||
Because it's impossible because they didn't say anything for seven years. | ||
After public pressure, they were forced to put a scientist out there in front of these reporters to finally give a reason, and they said it was because of fires. | ||
I understand. | ||
And they gasped, why didn't you check for explosives? | ||
This is what it was all about. | ||
You said this three times earlier. | ||
But you asked the question again. | ||
I get it, I get it, but that doesn't mean it's impossible. | ||
I'm just looking at the evidence. | ||
But that's not even the evidence. | ||
It doesn't mean that it's impossible. | ||
If it was a controlled demolition, let's get crazy. | ||
An alien could have blew it up, and that's not impossible. | ||
Let's say, let's look at it and say it's a controlled demolition. | ||
Let's say, it looks like a controlled demolition. | ||
Let's assume it is. | ||
How did the bombs get into the building? | ||
How did they put them in? | ||
Why is it impossible... | ||
If you look in... | ||
Wait, are you asking me a question? | ||
But why is it impossible that they put those bombs in it when they were building it? | ||
In the case, or when the Secret Service took over, or when whoever made the tenant, maybe they installed the bombs to make sure, in an event that something happened... | ||
Like, in 96, I believe it was 96, the World Trade Center towers, they blew them up in the basement, remember? | ||
They had a car bomb that went off in the basement and they thought they were going to take the tower down. | ||
If these people thought that put this building in place, or that took over this building, the CIA, the NSA, whoever the fuck it was, if they knew that they had some really important secure information there, It's very possible they could have said, okay, in the event that someone does blow up the World Trade Center, like in 96, because it's already happened before, and a catastrophic failure, we can demolish this building. | ||
Hey, if you want to... | ||
If you want to lean towards that theory, that's fine too. | ||
I'm not trying to change anybody's mind. | ||
I'm not leaning towards anything, but why are you saying that that's impossible? | ||
Anything's possible. | ||
I wasn't there, you weren't there, but we're going based on what we know. | ||
Jurors, like if this was a jury. | ||
What do we know? | ||
We're not looking for God's truth. | ||
We're looking like a jury, like a detective. | ||
How would they handle the truth? | ||
You know what I mean? | ||
If everybody was legit, you got to look at it like that. | ||
What do you think happened? | ||
If you think it was a controlled demolition, how do you think the bombs got in the building? | ||
It's so deep. | ||
It's so deep and so long. | ||
Like I said, you put all that 9-11 information. | ||
Forget about the Pentagon. | ||
This five-hour documentary has nothing to do with the Pentagon. | ||
It's like so much info, just like that video you showed. | ||
Five hours of that... | ||
Crushing evidence. | ||
When you look at that as a Jew or as a detective, you're like, of course it was an inside job. | ||
In that documentary, they lay out the countries that have always done shit like this. | ||
They've always done it. | ||
They got busted in an Iran contract. | ||
But let's not get off course here. | ||
I still want to find out your thinking on Building 7. Because you're convinced that Building 7 was a demolition, right? | ||
As a juror, it's a demolition based on all the testimony. | ||
How do you think they set it up for demolition? | ||
Well, there's evidence. | ||
If you're watching this documentary, there's so much information. | ||
But there's evidence of them constantly doing work and fake-ass workers working on the elevator shafts. | ||
There's all this evidence of that. | ||
It's so deep. | ||
I don't want to... | ||
I don't remember the names of the guys or anything like that. | ||
So you think all these people that were working there, they just set that building up to blow up? | ||
Yeah, they took time and they just had fake... | ||
It's a fact that the elevator was always broken and there was always people... | ||
Like the month before, there's all these fake passes and there's a lot of evidence. | ||
There's five hours. | ||
You're going to go, shit. | ||
There's reports. | ||
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Bravo. | ||
Yeah. | ||
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Yeah, but you know what? | ||
I'm so obsessed with those details. | ||
I don't know why, but we're living in a world post 9-11 that's... | ||
We're living in a crazy world where people are fucking dying in the Middle East and getting blown up and getting murdered and kids and stuff like that. | ||
That's going on. | ||
I just can't. | ||
I need to find out why they're doing it. | ||
Like, what's going on? | ||
I'm obsessed with... | ||
How is this racket? | ||
How do they operate? | ||
I want to know the truth. | ||
And when you know the truth, it's just like... | ||
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Fuck! | |
You just want to tell as many people as possible. | ||
Look, George Bush, a singer, gets busted on national TV with the Iran-Contra situation. | ||
He becomes president after that. | ||
And then he's running all his shit and all his drugs in his arms through Arkansas with an unknown governor, Bill Clinton, who's letting it happen. | ||
And then he becomes president after... | ||
George Bush as a detective? | ||
I don't know the truth. | ||
I wasn't there. | ||
I don't know what their relationship is like. | ||
You sound like Columbo. | ||
I'm like, that's some gangster shit going on right there. | ||
And they're just playing with the public and all the dumb motherfuckers who believe that there's this Republican-Democrat battle going on. | ||
You know, it's fascinating and frustrating at the same time and very scary that, man, we're living with people that just follow the official story and whatever they say, that's the truth. | ||
And all the other shit that's not the official story, that's crazy. | ||
There's a lot of people that do really love to buy the official story and they love to argue it. | ||
They love to argue the official story about everything. | ||
Yeah, the scary thing is the people, when you ask anybody, they'll say, yeah, the government's fucked up. | ||
Yeah, the government, you can't trust the government. | ||
Everybody will say that. | ||
No one's ever said, you can totally trust the government. | ||
I trust the government. | ||
No one ever says that. | ||
Ever! | ||
Everyone says, I fucked the government, bunch of crooks. | ||
But when they get busted and there's all this evidence and all this shit going down and so crystal clear, can you imagine if the video of Tower 7 was not available until 10 years later? | ||
That would be the craziest fucking conspiracy theory that nobody would get behind. | ||
Nobody would waste their time. | ||
That building goes down. | ||
There's no video of it. | ||
There's going to be people that were there going, dude! | ||
It's crazy. | ||
Tower 7 just fell down like it was controlled demo. | ||
People go, you crazy motherfucker. | ||
Where's the video? | ||
That's all they would say. | ||
That's what happened with the Kennedy assassination. | ||
Exactly. | ||
That was 10 years later. | ||
Can you imagine if there was no video? | ||
Because of all the angles that came out right away, right away we had all that footage. | ||
It's almost like... | ||
Like, that was good for the people that were behind this. | ||
Like, it was beautiful because you could see that on YouTube and it has millions of views, but people will go, well, the government said it was fires, so I believe it's fires. | ||
Hmm. | ||
You know, and you're watching it. | ||
You're watching it go down. | ||
Bunch of different angles, but I'm going to go with the government on this one. | ||
Government for 200. You know, that's scary. | ||
That kind of mentality is what I'm scared of. | ||
I'm scared of conspiracy theories. | ||
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That's what I'm scared of. | |
Enough of that shit. | ||
Light this fucking joint back on. | ||
Conspiracy theories killing my brain. | ||
I gotta go to Australia, bro. | ||
I can't handle that shit. | ||
Crazy shit, man. | ||
Maybe I should just say, shut the fuck up about it and just close my fucking eyes, just look straight. | ||
Sometimes I think about that. | ||
Is that better? | ||
I wonder how long, if there really is some crazy global cabal going on that's ripping off the world, how much longer do they keep going with this in these days of Edward Snowden? | ||
You know what? | ||
There's hope. | ||
When you find out exactly how the racket works, the global racket works, when you look into it with an open mind, We just went right back into it. | ||
I thought we were going to get out of it. | ||
I don't even know what I was going to say. | ||
Perfect. | ||
What were we even talking about? | ||
Global cabal. | ||
Look how it works. | ||
If you look at how it works. | ||
Man, I totally forgot. | ||
I told you. | ||
Global Cabal. | ||
Let's figure this out. | ||
Global Cabal. | ||
What else? | ||
I'm going to go with Tower 7, Chemtrail, Black Helicopter, CIA, George Bush, Barry Mina. | ||
I remember now. | ||
I remember. | ||
When you look at it, how it all goes down, bit by bit, how it all goes down, it's like fucking nuts. | ||
It's nuts. | ||
And I think, there's no way... | ||
We could ever regain control of the media because that's where all the power is. | ||
It all comes down to the media. | ||
Who controls that shit? | ||
Do we ever have control? | ||
We've got to go to alternative media for the truth, but then no one believes that. | ||
Everyone believes the shit that the government gives us, the PR pro fucking propaganda machine from the Pentagon. | ||
Everyone believes that. | ||
They don't believe the alternative media because, oh, you know what? | ||
It looks like it was low budget because look at the kind of film and the lighting they use. | ||
I don't believe that. | ||
That looks like they're in their garage. | ||
I want to believe this shit on Fox. | ||
That's how people think. | ||
They might not say that, but that's what's going on because that's what people believe most of people think. | ||
As the news does a shittier and shittier job of covering events in detail, I think people are leaning more and more towards alternative sources. | ||
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Yes, yes. | |
It's like The Guardian. | ||
When they released all those Ed Snowden documents, they weren't the only ones who were offered that. | ||
Yeah. | ||
It's just they got lucky. | ||
They found a guy in Glenn Greenwald that wanted to put his balls out there and do it. | ||
And then they go after whistleblowers, man. | ||
John Stockwell is a former CIA agent, wrote a couple books. | ||
The CIA took control of the royalties of his books, because you can't be talking about this stuff. | ||
So he's not making money off the books. | ||
The CIA, they just took control of his shit. | ||
John Stockwell, he was a CIA agent for 13 years. | ||
Most of the people in the CIA, they come in to fight communism. | ||
They're trying to help the world. | ||
They're trying to help the United States. | ||
It's the criminal element. | ||
There's a few key players, the guys with all the power at the top, the craziest guys at the top, and a lot of guys in the CIA have no idea. | ||
They don't tell everybody. | ||
I think it's like what you were saying earlier, that we were talking about how in the 1980s and whatever, before the internet, there was only a few different programs, so everybody was on these channels. | ||
But I think in this day and age, there's so much information out there. | ||
There's so much stuff to listen to and so much stuff to watch and so much stuff to pay attention to. | ||
It's just overwhelming that when something happens, even if it's a big deal, it's gone in a couple days. | ||
Some new shit coming down the pipe. | ||
University of Missouri, they're having a fucking hunger strike. | ||
Oh, that lady, she pushed that kid and she called for muscle. | ||
There's a new thing every goddamn day. | ||
You know, a few days ago, the Pentagon got busted with a gas station that cost $43 million to build. | ||
And everyone was like, why is a gas station in that part of the world? | ||
It's normally between $200,000 and $500,000 to build a gas station. | ||
$43 million! | ||
And they're like, it just is. | ||
It's fucking expensive. | ||
I mean, the latest word out there, Donald Rumsfeld the day before 9-11 said, oh, we have $2.3 trillion missing. | ||
It's ridiculous, right? | ||
He just says, we don't know where it's at, but it's gone. | ||
So they had to make a fucking Pentagon briefing. | ||
They had to tell the world, listen, we lost $2.3 trillion. | ||
September 10th. | ||
Yeah, that was September 10th, and the next day, that office in the Pentagon is looking into it, blows up. | ||
But anyways, as a juror, I'm like, gangsters, gangster shit's going on right here, dude. | ||
I don't have to, I'm not fucking, I'm a grown-ass man. | ||
I know how gangsters they are. | ||
I'm like, that's, dude. | ||
It's obvious, right? | ||
But the hope, you think there's no hope because they control the media. | ||
They got it. | ||
But what shows me hope is what's happening with hemp and marijuana. | ||
The resurgence, taking a Schedule I drug. | ||
A Schedule I drug and making it legal? | ||
Several states now, including Washington, D.C., which is crazy. | ||
It's more and more and more. | ||
It's becoming legal. | ||
So that shows that the federal government doesn't... | ||
They still schedule at one. | ||
They didn't want this. | ||
But that shows that the people actually, ultimately, if the people all can get together, they do have all the power. | ||
The people do have the power, because we still remember that from the Constitution. | ||
That's one thing we remember. | ||
I don't remember the fucking amendments and all that, but I go, I know we have the power and you guys are supposed to be working for us. | ||
Right now it's not like that and it's fucked up, but we know we're supposed to have the power. | ||
And when we learn that and we learn how powerful we are, we took a schedule one drug that was It was demonized. | ||
It was persecuted. | ||
It wasn't just left by itself. | ||
They went after the psyche of the nation globally, really, not just nationally. | ||
That was real. | ||
That's not a conspiracy theory. | ||
The reefer madness propaganda, that's some evil shit. | ||
So when people tell me, oh, do you know there's parts of the government that do this? | ||
I don't need fucking evidence. | ||
You could tell me anything. | ||
I'm like, it's probably true. | ||
And if it's not true, who gives a fuck anyways? | ||
But I believe it. | ||
You're talking about criminals? | ||
Is it criminal activity? | ||
Does it seem like, oh, you can make money that way? | ||
Whatever you're telling me. | ||
I see where the money comes from. | ||
If I don't see where the money comes from, I go, maybe it's bullshit. | ||
But if you could see how they can make money, I'm like, they probably do it. | ||
Because if you just thought of it, they probably thought of it too. | ||
They're running everything. | ||
But there's hope. | ||
There's hope, my shit, that people do have the fucking power. | ||
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Fuck! | |
We can't make a difference. | ||
They're in a position where they can lock people up, and they can intimidate people with the threat of locking people up. | ||
Even for something as silly as marijuana. | ||
I mean, people will say, well, that's, you know, it's not even an important point. | ||
Remember when Obama said there was some sort of a write-in on the internet, like, what should they talk about? | ||
And I forget what speech he was giving, what town hall. | ||
What was the number one question? | ||
And he's like, the number one question was legalization of marijuana. | ||
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I don't know what that says about the people that are calling in. | |
He jokes around about it like it's not a serious topic. | ||
But of course it's a serious topic. | ||
Because marijuana by itself, whether you like pot or don't like pot, it's not about that. | ||
It's about freedom. | ||
And it's a serious topic when you have a subject like marijuana, which all these people enjoy, and there's no reason why it should be illegal, and yet it's still illegal. | ||
That's not freedom. | ||
See, if marijuana made people's fucking brains melt, and made your dick fall off, and made people just start running out into traffic, there would be a reason why someone would say, hey, we gotta spend a lot of money to stop this, because it's gonna destroy our youth, ruin our children, and just devastate our society. | ||
Since that evidence doesn't exist, It doesn't make any sense. | ||
So if someone is still arresting people when there's no evidence that they should be, that's when shit gets scary. | ||
That's scary. | ||
That's a freedom issue. | ||
Because they're letting you know. | ||
They could just lock you in a cage. | ||
We have a difference of opinion. | ||
I'm not even willing to look at scientific evidence. | ||
I don't care about scientific evidence. | ||
I care about what's written on this piece of paper. | ||
And this piece of paper says, if you have a certain amount of these plants, I can put you in a cage. | ||
And I can make money off of you being in that fucking cage. | ||
That is a freedom issue. | ||
It has nothing to do with marijuana itself. | ||
You and I are obviously marijuana advocates, and we're marijuana enthusiasts, and we're known for having beliefs that marijuana is not just a fun thing, but it's a very important thing for creativity. | ||
It's like a turbocharger for creativity. | ||
Absolutely. | ||
And it doesn't get recognized for what it is because it's been demonized. | ||
So it's not about whether or not you should start doing it or other people should start having our opinions. | ||
And changing your mind on it. | ||
It's about recognizing why we have these opinions in the first place, because they're not based on fact at all. | ||
These are 1930s propaganda ideas that were, at the time, fucking tsunamis, right? | ||
Tsunamis of information back when there were so few portals. | ||
They put a movie like Reefer Madness out. | ||
William Randolph Hearst is the guy running the newspapers. | ||
He's got all these stories he's printing about Mexicans and black people raping white people. | ||
When those were the only fucking voices on the horizon, people freaked out about any kind of information like that. | ||
That was all that was available. | ||
It wasn't like that, and then you go online, and Mike Tyson fucked a tiger? | ||
What? | ||
Or Dan Bilzerian who lost a hundred million dollars playing poker? | ||
Why do you suppose they went after marijuana in just a demonic way? | ||
Well, I think it was gone after in a very calculated way by a guy who went after a lot of things like that. | ||
William Randolph Hearst, stand-to-profit for marijuana being illegal, remaining illegal. | ||
In fact, they named it marijuana. | ||
For people who don't even know, the name marijuana referred to wild Mexican tobacco. | ||
And it had nothing to do with cannabis. | ||
Cannabis was hemp, and everybody knew that, and they knew that as a textile and as a commodity, it was extremely valuable for the American people. | ||
For people who don't know, there was actually a documentary that Jack Herrer found, and it was a big deal that he found it, because he had known about this, and people denied its existence, and then he found this documentary, Hemp for Victory. | ||
And it was made during World War II, after hemp was essentially made illegal. | ||
But they wanted hemp To use for sales. | ||
Canvas is all made with hemp. | ||
All the great paintings, like the Mona Lisa, that shit is painted on canvas, which comes from cannabis. | ||
It is a commonly used plant throughout human history. | ||
Thousands of years of use. | ||
All... | ||
Like, intercepted by a propaganda campaign. | ||
This propaganda campaign by one guy and a bunch of other people that conspired with it as well, where there was two factions of it. | ||
One guy wanted to- What did he do, put out movies? | ||
Like William Randolph Hearst put out movies? | ||
He paid for that, but he also owned Hearst Publications. | ||
He owned the newspapers. | ||
So he printed these wild stories of white women getting raped. | ||
By people smoking marijuana. | ||
Well, he owned hundreds of, like, he owned not just newspaper, but he owned hundreds of thousands of acres of trees. | ||
And he used those trees and made paper out of them. | ||
He owned paper mills. | ||
If hemp became the new billion-dollar crop, as it was predicted on the cover of Popular Science magazine, if that happened, William Randolph Hearst would, I mean, he would have been fucked. | ||
He would have had to spend millions of dollars converting his newspapers to hemp paper. | ||
So he's like, fuck it. | ||
I'll just write evil shit about marijuana. | ||
I'll just call it marijuana. | ||
So it wasn't even about going after the drug. | ||
It was about going after what the fibers of the plant do. | ||
That's a conspiracy theory right there. | ||
It is. | ||
And can you imagine, because that was all during the 30s and 40s, can you imagine that there had to be some people that were thought of as some tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy theorists that are saying that weed is actually not, doesn't make you do all these crazy things that they're putting in the movies and with all this reefer manner propaganda. | ||
Those people must have been, they looked so goddamn crazy back then. | ||
Well, even today people try to debunk this. | ||
People have said that to me and they sent me to a website, dude, that's been debunked, sorry. | ||
What was debunked? | ||
That William Randolph Hearst had set up marijuana and worked with, what was the guy's name? | ||
Harry Anslinger. | ||
Harry Anslinger. | ||
But it hasn't been debunked. | ||
Not only has it not been debunked, William Randolph Hearst was a notable cunt. | ||
Everybody knew he was a cunt. | ||
Orson Welles made a movie about what a cunt he was. | ||
Who's protecting fucking William Randolph Hearst? | ||
Come on. | ||
It's the same mentality. | ||
It's the same mentality we were talking about before. | ||
It's the same people. | ||
They believe 100% of the official stories. | ||
It's those people, 100%, 100%. | ||
People that think Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. | ||
100%, 100%. | ||
I'm 100% for 100%. | ||
The Lee Harvey Oswald one is so strange. | ||
Whatever they say, I'm going with it. | ||
They would never lie. | ||
Well, people, you know, it's hard because some people automatically gravitate towards conspiracies. | ||
Some people automatically gravitate towards the official story. | ||
But I think a lot of times the reality is somewhere in the middle. | ||
And it's hard to find the reality. | ||
Depending on the conspiracy theory. | ||
You can't just say that about it. | ||
That's true. | ||
9-11, there's so much shit. | ||
And like I said, people think, however crazy they think it is, Iran-Contra was just as crazy. | ||
Everyone thought they were crazy. | ||
And they got busted. | ||
The William Randolph Hearst thing, here's why it really can't be totally debunked. | ||
First of all, we don't really know. | ||
We weren't there. | ||
So it's very difficult to prove and it's very difficult to disprove. | ||
But one thing we do know, he definitely did print stories about this drug that everyone was terrified of. | ||
He definitely did contribute to the making of Reefer Madness. | ||
I'm almost positive of that. | ||
Do you have proof that he okayed that story? | ||
Did you find out William Randolph Hearst had anything to do with the funding of the movie Reefer Madness? | ||
We need a memo where he okays that story. | ||
You know what I mean? | ||
Where he signed off on it. | ||
But here's the other aspect of it that we didn't talk about. | ||
The timing of this is right after Prohibition ended. | ||
So Prohibition was a boon to law enforcement. | ||
They were constantly working. | ||
They were arresting people, locking people up. | ||
And then on top of that, organized crime emerges in a huge way. | ||
I mean, that's where Al Capone got all his money. | ||
That's where the Kennedys got their fucking money. | ||
It's all from running booze, man. | ||
So there's all these people that are illegally running booze, and they're making crazy money, and they wind up in positions of power, and even wind up having their fucking children become president. | ||
That's the real story of the United States, is that Kennedy's fucking parents were drug runners. | ||
Their drug was just a liquid drug. | ||
It's just the same as running coke, just the same as growing weed right now today. | ||
They're all criminals. | ||
And JFK and his brother, Robert, something turned them, and they decided they're going to try to save the world. | ||
Maybe. | ||
They thought they could trust him because one thing's for sure, he was an extreme... | ||
He was like Bill Clinton when it came to girls. | ||
Yeah. | ||
They thought they had him in the bag. | ||
They thought he wouldn't... | ||
He'd totally just stay in line. | ||
And they had to get rid of him. | ||
Everybody. | ||
So that's interesting. | ||
So they'd probably have a guy like that. | ||
They'd get him in the office and go, listen, dude, we know you're a freak. | ||
Just shut the fuck up. | ||
Fuck as many as you want. | ||
Yeah. | ||
We'll keep you protected or... | ||
You know, shit's gonna get ugly. | ||
Sign a couple bills, you know what I mean? | ||
Sign a little trade agreement, whatever. | ||
What's the big deal? | ||
We're gonna invade the Congo. | ||
Just don't mess with this side. | ||
You could do a little trade agreement with Mexico and all that. | ||
It's very, who knows? | ||
It's very intriguing when you start looking at possibilities like that. | ||
Because it comes from a criminal family. | ||
So, you know, it's very obvious. | ||
They're all gangsters. | ||
They turn, they try to change the world, and then they had to get rid of them. | ||
It's just like, you know, gangster 101. Yeah, and then you get the gangsters through the police officers who are arresting people for booze, okay? | ||
Because let's be honest. | ||
It's not the cops that are the gangsters, but the people that are telling the cops where to go for sure are gangsters. | ||
Why is it out in the first place? | ||
Who says you can't have whiskey? | ||
What kind of bitches are we? | ||
We're supposed to be America. | ||
Someone's gonna come along and say you can't have a drink? | ||
How about fuck you? | ||
That doesn't make any sense. | ||
You can't drink? | ||
So I'm supposed to just live my life by your fucking wacky rules? | ||
I like drinking. | ||
Drinking is fun. | ||
It's so much fun. | ||
It should be illegal. | ||
It should be. | ||
I'd be all for making it illegal. | ||
It'd be cool to drink it like back in the 20s or 30s. | ||
No, we'd have organized crime would be even bigger, man. | ||
That shit becomes dangerous. | ||
Look, I mean, Jack Daniels on the corner. | ||
Here's a perfect example. | ||
Jack Daniels has been around forever, right? | ||
They sell whiskey, super popular everywhere. | ||
I drink Jack Daniels on a regular basis, right? | ||
That company's not evil. | ||
They're not killing anybody. | ||
Jack Daniels isn't fucking gunning people down the street. | ||
Jack Daniels isn't taking over new territories. | ||
Jack Daniels isn't fucking burrowing holes underneath prisons and digging people out. | ||
But the corporation that owns Jack Daniels probably is. | ||
I don't know if the corporation is even Jack Daniels itself. | ||
It might just be Jack Daniels distillery. | ||
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I think someone took that shit over. | |
Come on! | ||
Who cares? | ||
Who cares? | ||
My point is that Jack Daniels isn't an evil company. | ||
They can make money. | ||
But if you can make money doing shit like that, then there's less of a criminal element to it. | ||
It's a safe company. | ||
There's a lot of bad shit that gets done by people who are drunk on Jack Daniels, for sure. | ||
But Jack Daniels the company is not like Al Capone. | ||
That's my point. | ||
When you let companies sell things legally, you get the tax benefit from it, and the companies aren't filled with criminals. | ||
Because the only people that are willing to run heroin are going to be crazy fuckers like that guy from Breaking Bad. | ||
That's going to be the people that are going to be running heroin. | ||
They're going to be out of their fucking mind. | ||
Those are the people that you're going to get. | ||
But if it was legal, you're going to get Bill Gates. | ||
You know? | ||
I mean, if it's legal, how many rock stars have their own whiskey or tequila or some shit like that? | ||
There's a bunch of those guys. | ||
Those rappers, they always have their own tequila or something. | ||
Everybody's got their own shit. | ||
It's okay. | ||
They're legal drug dealers. | ||
But as long as you're making money... | ||
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Legally. | |
Paying taxes. | ||
It's above board. | ||
No one cares. | ||
It's proof positive that drugs should be legal. | ||
Because alcohol is one of the fucking worst. | ||
One of the worst for your body. | ||
Worse than cocaine. | ||
The traffic accidents. | ||
Are there cars out there that won't turn on if the driver's drunk? | ||
My friend had one. | ||
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Wow. | |
My friend in Colorado had one. | ||
He's a buddy of mine from New York. | ||
Moved to Colorado. | ||
What kind of car is that? | ||
Well, he had to use it for work. | ||
He got a DOI. The car's not unique. | ||
It's a setup on the ignition. | ||
They have a thing built into the ignition. | ||
The ignition will not start unless he has to blow a blood alcohol content, then he has to wait a few minutes. | ||
And it won't fire up for him if he's drunk. | ||
That's brilliant. | ||
Yeah. | ||
That should be mandatory. | ||
It's a good idea. | ||
Yeah. | ||
But it's not convenient. | ||
At least his wasn't. | ||
His says it takes a few minutes. | ||
And I'm like, dude, that's got to suck in the snow. | ||
Because it's Colorado. | ||
I mean, he lives in Denver. | ||
Those drunk driving schools, they don't want that to pass. | ||
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They're trying to stop. | |
They're lobbying against it. | ||
They're holding it back. | ||
They probably would have had them a long time ago, but the drunk driving topless schools, they all got together. | ||
Well, what's going to save that is these fucking Google cars, like the Tesla that can drive itself. | ||
That's going to save all that shit. | ||
How does that work? | ||
They work on sensors. | ||
They already work on sensors. | ||
It's fairly common now that your car will know when you're going across lines now. | ||
Have you ever noticed that? | ||
There's a lot of cars. | ||
I had an Infiniti. | ||
They sort of drive themselves? | ||
No, but it lets you know if you're crossing a line. | ||
It keeps you like... | ||
Cadillac has one. | ||
It's weird, man. | ||
Have you seen those new Cadillac Escalades? | ||
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Dude, those things are dope. | ||
I rent one of those everywhere I go. | ||
I love those things. | ||
First of all, I love them because I'm an old Italian man. | ||
How much they cost? | ||
It's a fucking Cadillac. | ||
They're probably... | ||
They're probably in the high 60s, maybe in the 70s of $1,000. | ||
They're not cheap, but they're not cheaply made either. | ||
They're fucking badass. | ||
I rent them all the time. | ||
I love them. | ||
They're so smooth, too, dude. | ||
They have this magnetic ride control suspension, so it just floats over everything. | ||
You get this great view of everything. | ||
Every time I'm in one, I'm like, why don't I drive one of these every day? | ||
But they have this thing in this seat where if you get close to the edge, it vibrates on your thigh, on your left thigh. | ||
So if you're getting close to the edge of the lines, like where the lines are, it lets you know, hey, hey, hey, bitch, get over here. | ||
It's really weird. | ||
It's real weird. | ||
If you're backing up, it can give you a little vibrate if you get too close to things. | ||
So it's not just looking. | ||
You're not just seeing it in a camera or hearing it and beeps that get close. | ||
You know how they have those? | ||
And some BMWs, they have that beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep. | ||
The closer you get to the thing, it lets you, hey, bitch, you're going to hit this fucking thing! | ||
Not only does the Cadillac do that, but it vibrates your seat. | ||
It lets you know where it is. | ||
If you're about to hit something on the right-hand side, your right thigh will start vibrating. | ||
It's really weird. | ||
It's fucking trippy. | ||
I don't remember what my point was. | ||
We're talking about cars. | ||
Oh, so that's how they use some sort of cameras to see those lanes. | ||
So they know when you're out of lanes. | ||
Because even if the road curves, they know. | ||
They know if you keep going straight and the road curves, bitch, what the fuck are you doing? | ||
And they also have this thing called... | ||
It's a... | ||
It's... | ||
You know how you have cruise control, like regular cruise control? | ||
This is a laser distance detecting cruise control. | ||
So say if your car, this is pretty common now too. | ||
If your car is ahead of mine and I set my cruise control for 65 miles an hour, if you slow down, my car slows down too. | ||
If you speed up, my car speeds up. | ||
I don't have to touch shit. | ||
You just put your hands on the steering wheel. | ||
It slows down for you, it speeds up for you. | ||
You know anybody who buys a car like that is going to sign a fucking stack of waivers like a notebook, you know what I mean? | ||
Right? | ||
Come on. | ||
Can you imagine the fucking accidents? | ||
Holy shit. | ||
Well, this is what they're saying. | ||
They're saying the Google cars have only had a couple accidents. | ||
And they've been running them through San Francisco for a while. | ||
Damn. | ||
But people have... | ||
I wonder how much the Google accidents have been Google's fault. | ||
It's so hard to drive. | ||
Jesus Christ. | ||
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Yeah. | |
That's so hard, man. | ||
I want my arms down. | ||
You still got to sit down. | ||
It's so comfortable. | ||
But do you really not like driving? | ||
I would rather have a driver, but I don't trust a car. | ||
It's too unpredictable. | ||
You got to make some razor sharp decisions on the highway. | ||
It doesn't have every situation programmed in the car. | ||
There's all these weird, awkward situations where you're just driving and you could have avoided it if you would have had control. | ||
But are those weird, awkward situations occurring because people are retarded? | ||
Like, if everybody had a driver car, a car that drove itself, maybe those would just vanish. | ||
And maybe you would get, like, a green light when you get on the road. | ||
How much you smoke, man? | ||
A lot. | ||
But maybe. | ||
Think about it. | ||
Because, like, when you watch, like, I watched this girl texting the other day on her phone. | ||
It was so frustrating. | ||
Because we were on the highway. | ||
We were going, like, 65 miles an hour. | ||
And a couple times, she came close to my lane. | ||
And whenever someone does that, I go, oh, I guarantee you they're fucking with their phone. | ||
And I look over, and this girl's doing this shit. | ||
Everybody does that shit, man. | ||
It's scary. | ||
No, I don't do that. | ||
I don't do that. | ||
I don't do that. | ||
I leave my fucking phone on the passenger seat. | ||
I take it, I put it over there. | ||
I'm not fucking with that thing. | ||
But you'll talk and drive, though. | ||
I'll talk and drive on my phone. | ||
I press a button on the steering wheel. | ||
That's not bad. | ||
Because it's going through the Bluetooth. | ||
You can have a little conversation. | ||
You can see everything. | ||
It's like having a conversation with a dude who's sitting next to you. | ||
It's totally normal. | ||
Is it legal to... | ||
Because it's illegal to text or to do anything on your phone. | ||
That's illegal, right? | ||
Yes. | ||
Is it illegal to go through your CDs or go through your stations on your satellite? | ||
No. | ||
You can't do this, but you can do this. | ||
You can press the thing on your car that's stationary. | ||
It's like locked in. | ||
But if you have something in your hand, you start pressing that to make your music come on, which all my music is on my iPhone. | ||
I carry everything on my iPhone. | ||
I carry all my music. | ||
I used to have an iPod connector in my car. | ||
No one does that. | ||
I still have it in my BMW. It still has a little iPod connector. | ||
I still have iPods. | ||
Why, though? | ||
My fucking phone has a hundred and something gigs. | ||
There's no way I need all that. | ||
How could you listen to all that, you greedy bitch? | ||
You have to be a crazy person. | ||
I think people are now, since we went to... | ||
It seems like we're more and more just... | ||
Using our laptops less and our phones way more, right? | ||
Yeah, way more. | ||
So I think that's great for music. | ||
Listening to music on your computer is not as cool as being out and about on your phone with headsets. | ||
On the airport, music. | ||
You've sent me songs and I listen to them right when you sent me them. | ||
Literally, there's no delay at all. | ||
How crazy is that? | ||
You sent me some of your shit, and I press play, and I'm listening to it in my car in seconds. | ||
And then you threw up. | ||
No, it was good, dude. | ||
But in seconds, in seconds, you could ask Siri. | ||
Now, I'm going to stop this, because people are getting mad at me for saying this, because it makes your phone go off. | ||
If you say, H-E-Y, S-I-R-I. And say those things together, you can ask it things. | ||
It'll transcribe things for you. | ||
It transcribes for me accidentally. | ||
I look down, the phone is taking every word that I said accidentally because I said those words during a podcast or something that sounded enough like it. | ||
But when you have that, when you do something like that, you could tell it, hey, download me Smoke Serpent. | ||
Hey, go to Eddie Bravo Radio number three, and it'll fucking find it on the internet and play it for you. | ||
Dude, it's crazy. | ||
Yeah, that's what we were talking about before we started the podcast was my music conspiracy theory. | ||
Yeah, well, okay, what's your music conspiracy theory? | ||
Does it involve Donald Rumpo? | ||
This is just me... | ||
Smoking a lot of weed and saying stupid shit, but it seems that the record companies in the record business have always, always ripped off the artists. | ||
The artists never make, all of them, when you look at documentaries, every band the same thing. | ||
They're getting ripped off. | ||
If you watch that Eagles documentary, it's amazing. | ||
I'm not an Eagles fan. | ||
I'll never buy an Eagles CD, but I respect the shit out of them. | ||
Dude, how dare you? | ||
I respect the shit out of them. | ||
I respect the shit out of them, and they do got some good stuff, but I'm just not that kind of southern rock thing. | ||
We're all just prisoners here of our own device. | ||
Yeah, I love the story, shit, the documentary, the story of how they got together and their dynamics when they broke up and got back together and shit. | ||
Dude, the Eagles story's amazing. | ||
You don't like Hotel California? | ||
It's alright. | ||
Goddamn. | ||
Too many strippers dance to it. | ||
But the story, and then you watch a 30 Seconds to Mars documentary, and the record company is suing him for $30 million. | ||
Explain that, because that's Jared Leto, right? | ||
That's the actor. | ||
He also has a band, and his band had a deal with a record company, and it all fucking went... | ||
They just didn't get paid, basically. | ||
They just never got paid. | ||
They were huge. | ||
They got a couple of really good songs. | ||
Echelon is one of my all-time favorite songs. | ||
But anyways, you watch that documentary, It's always the same thing. | ||
The record company doesn't have money. | ||
They're not gonna pay. | ||
We had to pay all this shit for you. | ||
We bought your fucking video. | ||
We paid for your goddamn producer. | ||
You gotta pay that shit back. | ||
And you better fucking get on the road, motherfucker. | ||
You owe us money. | ||
You owe us money. | ||
Is this the movie Artifact? | ||
Artifact, sometimes we must fight in order to be free. | ||
Okay, I got something to watch on the plane. | ||
I think it's on Netflix right now. | ||
Is that 30 Minutes, Second to Mars? | ||
Yeah, that's the one. | ||
It's really good. | ||
Is it on iTunes? | ||
Yeah, it definitely was on iTunes and everything to buy for about a year. | ||
You got to give it up to Jared Leto because he's the only guy on the planet that's a legitimate... | ||
Musician, rock star, legitimate, where he has millions of fans. | ||
He sold millions of records. | ||
And he's a very successful actor, too. | ||
You could almost say maybe he's reaching that A-list. | ||
Jared Leto is a famous dude. | ||
Nobody else has done that. | ||
Music and acting, that huge? | ||
You gotta give it up. | ||
And they got a couple really good songs. | ||
I'm not a gigantic 30 Seconds of Mars fan, but Echelon and The Mission... | ||
Absolutely fantastic songs. | ||
So they got a record deal and just were not getting any money? | ||
Yeah, you know, I forget the details. | ||
So then they went to court over it? | ||
No, what happened is they weren't getting any money and Jared Leto said, I'm fucking out this motherfucker. | ||
You guys owe us so much shit. | ||
He wasn't going to say shit. | ||
So he just said, I'm going to make an album on my own. | ||
Fuck this. | ||
We're selling millions of records. | ||
We don't have anything. | ||
They're not paying us. | ||
Right. | ||
The record company goes, oh, you think you could just do that? | ||
Like the record, the contract was over like in six months. | ||
Really, they could have just waited it out, but he just started working on a new album. | ||
So fuck that. | ||
Record company goes, oh, you're working on an album? | ||
That's our album. | ||
You know what I mean? | ||
Something like that. | ||
Something like that where they ended up suing them. | ||
You think you could just walk away from us? | ||
How about we're going to come after you for 30 million? | ||
Dude, I have a friend who works. | ||
She's a receptionist. | ||
She was a receptionist. | ||
She got fired. | ||
She's working for some company that makes TV shows or some shit. | ||
And they knew that she was a comedian. | ||
You know, she's an amateur comedian. | ||
And so while she was working with them, she developed this idea for some pilot with her and her friend. | ||
Who's also a comedian. | ||
So then all of a sudden, the company she's working for wanted her to sign some intellectual property agreement. | ||
And anything she came up with when she was working there would be theirs. | ||
And they literally said to her, while you work here, we own your brain. | ||
Just imagine how crazy that is. | ||
She's a fucking receptionist comedian. | ||
A funny comedian, too. | ||
And she's trying to make it. | ||
She's out there hustling. | ||
And the company that she works for, they make TV shows. | ||
They're not using her in that regard. | ||
They're using her as a receptionist. | ||
They just decide that somehow or another they're gonna figure out a way to steal from her. | ||
They're gonna tap into her creativity. | ||
We own your ideas. | ||
But imagine that. | ||
You're paying someone like dog shit money. | ||
You're paying someone like receptionist pay. | ||
And you want to own their dream, their dream of a show? | ||
That's fucking dirty. | ||
That's dirty and scary. | ||
Every band goes through the same shit. | ||
It's like the record company is owned by gangsters themselves. | ||
And when you sign a contract, you don't give a fuck. | ||
You're just this kid from a small town. | ||
Your band got big. | ||
You're in Hollywood now. | ||
You're going to sign the goddamn deal. | ||
You don't even care. | ||
You know you're getting ripped off. | ||
It's so known that everybody knows in the music business, you don't make any money on your first album or two. | ||
They'll make it so that you'll start making money on your third or fourth album. | ||
That's where you're going to get a bigger cut. | ||
But that first album or two, you ain't going to make shit. | ||
And you know what? | ||
It's good business when it's time for you to make the good money. | ||
No, we're just going to leave you on your own. | ||
Find a new artist. | ||
We always need to bring in the new ones. | ||
There's always new R&B artists. | ||
There's always new rappers. | ||
There's always new ones. | ||
There's new ones coming in. | ||
New rock bands. | ||
They're always coming in. | ||
95% of them are going to fail and they won't never make it to their third album. | ||
But they got them coming in. | ||
That's the deep conspiracy, right? | ||
Because they all make the money in their second and third albums. | ||
And the first album. | ||
And the record company just leaves them. | ||
Just gets ripped. | ||
Unless it's like an anomaly where you have a Depeche Mode or U2. Where they get fucking massive and they could just sustain a career and 20 years into their career, they write fucking Beautiful Day and that's a smash hit. | ||
You know, once you're like that, then after like 10, 15 years, you own your own shit and you realize, okay, I'm going to do my own shit here. | ||
But then get the majors to distribute it. | ||
I'll use their distribution like what Dr. Dre did. | ||
How about what Prince did? | ||
He had to use a fake name. | ||
He couldn't even use a name. | ||
Now looking back, everyone thought Prince was crazy. | ||
Prince is a fucking genius. | ||
He came up with a symbol. | ||
The artist formerly known as Prince. | ||
He's not Prince anymore. | ||
Nobody could say his shit. | ||
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He loved it. | |
Nobody could say the band. | ||
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Yeah. | |
He can't say it. | ||
He proved a point, too. | ||
Bitch, you're coming to see me. | ||
They're coming to see me. | ||
They don't give a fuck if I'm with Warner Brothers or A&M. That's all nonsense. | ||
They just stole. | ||
They were stealing. | ||
They're trying to do that in the world of podcasting. | ||
There's a lot of that going on in the world of podcasting where companies are coming in and they're trying to own half of podcasts and put you on a network. | ||
It's really common. | ||
A lot of that's been going on where they're trying to scoop up podcasts. | ||
Because podcasts are such a simple model. | ||
You have one. | ||
You know how it is. | ||
You take it. | ||
You record it. | ||
You upload it on iTunes with some sort of a server. | ||
Easy. | ||
It's not difficult. | ||
Like, you know, use someone like a service like Libsyn is what we use. | ||
They're actually in the podcast distribution business. | ||
And once you do that, I mean, that's basically it. | ||
That's all you have to do. | ||
That's not a lot. | ||
If someone like Radiolab or like Hardcore History is a perfect example, he's almost always like in the top three or four whenever he releases something new. | ||
Maybe sometimes often one, number one. | ||
I've seen him one a couple times. | ||
It's just a dude and a producer putting together a history podcast. | ||
Yeah, and look at your podcast. | ||
You had a direct impact on what's going on with marijuana today. | ||
Ten years ago, before this podcast, I think you are the biggest spokesperson for getting people to open their eyes. | ||
I don't know about all that, but I think the internet is, and I think I'm on the internet. | ||
That's what I think it is, because these aren't all my ideas. | ||
These are ideas that I've gotten from reading all sorts of crazy shit that gets sent me all the time, reading different things. | ||
You're the messenger. | ||
Yeah, we're all like conduits. | ||
We're all like rivers. | ||
Some of us, we tap into a big ocean of information, and we could shuttle that shit downstream. | ||
That's really what it is. | ||
When you get a podcast or... | ||
Someone sends me interesting shit on Twitter. | ||
I retweet things all day long. | ||
All day long. | ||
I always look at something. | ||
I'll read it for a few minutes. | ||
If it seems interesting, I retweet it. | ||
That's why people say, like, are you endorsing things when you retweet? | ||
I found it interesting. | ||
Make your own goddamn conclusions. | ||
If something is totally ridiculous, like some Christian guy thinks that gays are responsible for the drought, I will fucking retweet that. | ||
Doesn't mean I believe that. | ||
I just think, look at this guy. | ||
I don't have time to go through all the information with people, but I like the fact that I'm this sort of portal. | ||
So because of that, I feel like I get... | ||
Privy to or I get access to a lot of information that I might not have ever sought out myself. | ||
It gets sent to me. | ||
It's really cool. | ||
And then I do the same thing. | ||
You know, I talk about it on here and then we'll sit around and we'll try to think about it. | ||
We'll try to break it down or figure out what's... | ||
It's just another river of the internet. | ||
That's what it is. | ||
This is all some new thing that's happening to the human race. | ||
Yeah. | ||
The human race gets to discuss things. | ||
And once the internet blew up, that's when the music business supposedly went down. | ||
And maybe it did go down because record sales definitely went down. | ||
They disappeared, right? | ||
Pretty much. | ||
Tower Records closed down. | ||
Virgin Records closed down. | ||
It's crazy. | ||
It's the same owners of these record companies. | ||
They always told the artists they weren't making money. | ||
Now, this is my conspiracy theory. | ||
Now, I think the music business is bigger than fucking ever with the internet. | ||
They're not selling CDs. | ||
They're not selling solid product. | ||
But I think they're making so much more goddamn money than ever before. | ||
And why should they tell anybody? | ||
Oh, no, you know what? | ||
The record business sucks. | ||
So now you just want to get a record. | ||
Where are they making the money from? | ||
Online. | ||
But most of the stuff is being sold through, what, iTunes? | ||
Is that the number one? | ||
The thing is, yes, people do steal music. | ||
Wait a minute, what are you saying? | ||
No, no, I'm giving the whole overall scope. | ||
People do steal music, I know that. | ||
But I think when you go the old way, the only way you're going to get a CD is through the actual distribution. | ||
You can't reach fucking, but a fraction of the world. | ||
Unless you're gigantic. | ||
You can Google it unless you're one of the big bands. | ||
Very hard. | ||
You gotta have a physical copy. | ||
But yes, we're not selling CDs anymore, but now we have the whole world and they can buy it instantly. | ||
I mean, I can easily... | ||
I'm okay with computers. | ||
I'm like a blue belt on computers. | ||
I'm sure I could find a place where I can get free stuff, but iTunes is so convenient and I got an iPhone. | ||
I'm buying all my old vinyl stuff and it's in my phone. | ||
I think more than ever now, now that we're a phone culture, I think music is bigger than ever now. | ||
I love music. | ||
I'm so passionate about music. | ||
I'm always hunting. | ||
It's easier to find stuff. | ||
Satellite radio, which Shazam, Shazam is huge. | ||
I think now more than ever, I think music is getting really good. | ||
There's a lot of good artists out there. | ||
And I think, I don't know, it sucked for a while, but I think there's a... | ||
It's gonna be a new explosion of how we get our music. | ||
The record business aren't important anymore. | ||
What's important is music. | ||
What's important is music producers and artists. | ||
And everyone's producing their own stuff. | ||
And you can distribute stuff in a unique way. | ||
It's a totally different animal now. | ||
I make a music, I make a song. | ||
Like, if an independent label wanted to sign me as a producer or whatever, I would never take, like, an independent label. | ||
I would take some deal that was a huge deal that was life-changing, but for me to... | ||
It's just way easier just to do whatever I want to do, not have to worry about anybody, and just put whatever I want. | ||
Whenever I want, I don't have any deadline. | ||
As soon as you start getting deadlines and someone owns a piece of my motherfucking music, I don't know about that. | ||
Not just a piece, but most of it. | ||
Independent label? | ||
No one's heard of? | ||
It's got to be a huge label for me to... | ||
Honey Honey had a problem with one of their last songs. | ||
They had this last album. | ||
There's this one song that I loved, and I'm like, why isn't that song on your album? | ||
And even though they wrote that song, they produced it, it was all theirs, the record company wanted to own it. | ||
So it's like, oh, Jesus. | ||
So they just decided to not put it on there. | ||
I'm like, that is crazy. | ||
That is crazy. | ||
They just want to own it. | ||
Someone else owns some shit. | ||
How crazy is that, though? | ||
You write it, you sing it, you write it, you sing it, you... | ||
You experiment with it, you change it, you tweak it. | ||
And some dudes you don't know own it all. | ||
They own it. | ||
Yeah. | ||
It's theirs. | ||
They want it. | ||
They didn't even pay anything for it. | ||
They don't want to pay you for it. | ||
They just want it. | ||
It's part of the deal. | ||
So it's like, what exactly are the record companies needed for? | ||
What are they needed for? | ||
But you know what's going on is the music video, MTV no longer exists as a music video TV station. | ||
What are they now? | ||
They just do it like a regular channel now. | ||
That's so weird. | ||
But they might show videos a little bit here and there. | ||
I don't even pay attention no more. | ||
But why are record labels still making these huge, big budget music videos? | ||
Because now everyone, they go to Vivo or YouTube, people love watching music videos. | ||
Now it's easier. | ||
You can watch a music video now on your phone? | ||
Before you had to watch it on MTV. How are you going to get MTV on your phone now? | ||
So there's like a resurgence of music videos. | ||
They're huge. | ||
And music is so easy to listen to and share and buy and Shazam and spread. | ||
The music industry thrives on niches and metal people and R&B people. | ||
R&B people aren't trying to sell music to these white kids that are in the insane clown posse. | ||
You know what I mean? | ||
The music industry is all about, do you know your niche? | ||
And are you selling to the right market? | ||
And that's what the internet has become. | ||
So, for music... | ||
I don't think the internet killed music. | ||
I think it's exploding right now. | ||
It only killed these parasitic music companies. | ||
That's what it killed. | ||
Yeah, exactly. | ||
That's what it killed. | ||
The people ripping it off, most people are buying this shit. | ||
They were distributors. | ||
That's all they were. | ||
They were distributors. | ||
Distributors and publicists. | ||
Now the publicist, the best version of it is social media. | ||
The best version of it is having a good connection with the fans on social media and people finding out about your shit and they spread it virally. | ||
That's the best way to do it. | ||
Then what happens is these big record companies, they essentially become publicists. | ||
We own your Twitter. | ||
Yeah. | ||
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Well, they do that. | |
I told you what happened with Arsenio Hall. | ||
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Can you imagine that? | |
Well, they tried to do that with me, man. | ||
They tried to own your Twitter? | ||
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Who? | |
They tried to post on it. | ||
One of the TV shows I was doing. | ||
It was one of the requests. | ||
Can we borrow your account? | ||
They wanted to have access to my social media. | ||
They wanted to use my Twitter and my Facebook. | ||
Oh, shit. | ||
And I was like, fuck you. | ||
There's no way. | ||
You could do that to a fan page type deal. | ||
You know what I mean? | ||
Like an extra one that I'm not paying any attention. | ||
You could create your own one. | ||
You could do that shit. | ||
But if you sign off on that, it's still no good. | ||
Really? | ||
Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
Because you don't know what the fuck they're putting up there unless you approve each and every message. | ||
The best way to do it would be you tell me what you want me to say, what are you trying to get me to say, and I'll tell you whether or not that's ever going to happen. | ||
And if you want to say something in my voice, which they're trying to do, I'm like, you're fucking crazy. | ||
You're crazy. | ||
Because I'm not going to agree. | ||
Hey, you guys should tune in to blah, blah, blah on primetime at 8. Amazing. | ||
It would be cool if you guys tweeted this. | ||
Are you out of your mind? | ||
You think I'm going to tweet promotions for other shows or live tweet things that you've got going on or get involved with your fucking shark week or whatever the fuck it is? | ||
That kind of crazy talk. | ||
That's what happens when you become a part of a network. | ||
You also become, like, involved in promos. | ||
And they want to, like, they owned Arsenio Hall's Facebook. | ||
He couldn't get his Facebook back. | ||
When he did that Arsenio, the resurgence of the Arsenio Hall show. | ||
Did he own it before on his own? | ||
It was his. | ||
But to do a new show that was part of the deal. | ||
They wanted to take over his fucking Facebook. | ||
That's crazy. | ||
That's what they do. | ||
That's what they do. | ||
Because that's all the power. | ||
You blow up some artists, like Rihanna's Twitter, she can, just based on her Twitter, she can make her break bands. | ||
Or not really break them, she can make them. | ||
Yeah, she can do incredible stuff. | ||
By herself, she has all the power. | ||
So if she loses the label just with that Twitter, she owns her own shit. | ||
Oh, and Instagram and all those things. | ||
That's all you need to do. | ||
I bet... | ||
A lot of the deals now are... | ||
I think the power is going back to the people. | ||
Everything's being set up. | ||
And record labels are probably fumbling. | ||
They're still trying to jack young artists. | ||
They're still trying to do shit like this. | ||
And they're making all that online money. | ||
I don't know how much money that is. | ||
Everything online is a lot. | ||
I know, but I want to know if there's ever been a study on... | ||
What percentage of music gets purchased online and how much of it just gets downloaded illegally? | ||
Like, what do you think the ratio is? | ||
I think most people... | ||
If you had a guess. | ||
With Spotify coming in now and people paying for that, they can track that and people pay, and that's high. | ||
And that's problematic. | ||
That's, in a lot of ways, a lot like a record company because that's one of the big complaints that artists have had about Spotify is that they don't get paid enough money from it. | ||
That's like Taylor Swift's complaint about it. | ||
Oh, really? | ||
They're complaining? | ||
Yeah, yeah. | ||
I think they're trying to get into the podcast world, too. | ||
But the point is, they're an aggregator, right? | ||
They're a portal for something. | ||
How much money should a portal make? | ||
What percentage should a portal make and what percentage should Taylor Swift make? | ||
Taylor Swift should make almost everything. | ||
Look at this. | ||
Pharrell made only $2,700 in songwriter royalties from 43 million plays of Happy on Pandora. | ||
What the fuck? | ||
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Wow. | |
What the fuck, man? | ||
Holy shit. | ||
That's like an onion sketch, you know? | ||
I mean, that's like something The Onion would write for an article. | ||
You know how big you have to be to make any kind of money? | ||
$2,700. | ||
$2,700 for 43 million plays. | ||
You know what? | ||
Someone's got to start like a Pandora that's actually a musician. | ||
Like an open source. | ||
Yeah, and say, listen, we're going to do this. | ||
It's called Tidal. | ||
Jay-Z and a bunch of other, I don't want to say all hip-hop artists started it, but they started something very similar. | ||
Higher quality downloads. | ||
You can pay $10 a month or $20 a month. | ||
That's where that one Beyonce concert was for in Central Park. | ||
It was a special Tidal concert. | ||
That's where you watched it. | ||
So the artists make more money? | ||
Supposedly they make more money, but there was some backlash when that came out. | ||
Fans were saying, why do you need more money? | ||
You already have money. | ||
Let's let independent artists get a chance to make some money. | ||
It's really... | ||
What, is he getting all the money from it? | ||
I don't quite... | ||
But little by little, you see what appears to be happening is little by little, the artist is now, because of the internet, it's slowly the shift, the power is going back to them. | ||
Yes. | ||
Yeah, because once you have followers and you can contact your fans, you needed the record company to contact your fans. | ||
How else are you going to contact your fans? | ||
We don't even have cell phones back then. | ||
Exactly. | ||
You need us... | ||
Exactly. | ||
To put you on the radio. | ||
And the radio had really strict rules. | ||
They had really strict relationships. | ||
Radio's lost all their power too, man. | ||
They're cutting budgets left and right, firing people. | ||
You know, Kevin and Bean are good friends of mine. | ||
I do their show. | ||
That's like the last terrestrial radio show I do. | ||
They're really nice guys, and I do their show. | ||
And last time I was there, Bean was there. | ||
He was telling me they meet with the upper management, but everyone's negative. | ||
It's all down. | ||
It's all downer. | ||
No one's like, you guys are doing great. | ||
It's such an enjoyable show. | ||
I really appreciate that we're all working together. | ||
Everyone's just like, fuck, we've got to fire people. | ||
We've got to cut ties. | ||
It's like that business, it's kind of a dying business. | ||
It's like Morse code. | ||
Just 20 years ago. | ||
Because now that you have your music on your phone, instead, I remember, it seems like just yesterday, where I'm driving around, I always had 55 CDs in the back of my car, people stepping on them, there's always CDs, and once every couple weeks I gotta fucking organize my shit. | ||
There's just CDs everywhere in my car. | ||
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Now it's just your phone. | |
It's just your phone. | ||
It's so much easier. | ||
Yeah, and it's on demand, instantaneously. | ||
Anything you want. | ||
You could always, if you don't have something on iTunes or whatever, you could always go to YouTube and listen to it on YouTube. | ||
No, it's incredible. | ||
It's an amazing time for that. | ||
And these guys that were like radio DJs, essentially what made them cool was their personalities. | ||
But when you get trapped in a DJ gig like that, people get little snippets of your personality and your thought process on things, and then you play another song. | ||
I think for those guys, it's like... | ||
They would be way better served without a radio show. | ||
They'd be way better served just talking about shit. | ||
Because that's what people enjoy about them. | ||
Anybody could play those same records. | ||
You could have a robot voice that plays the same records. | ||
So the people that are tuning in just for the music... | ||
Go ahead, do it, brother. | ||
The people that are tuning in just for the music... | ||
Those people are going to tune in no matter what. | ||
That's what they want to hear. | ||
They don't care about the personalities. | ||
But the personalities, guys like Kevin and Bean, they're fun dudes. | ||
They're interesting guys. | ||
And that's what is interesting about that show. | ||
They would almost be better served if the radio station fired them and they had to go and do an internet show. | ||
Because if they did an internet show, it would just be them talking about stuff and it would be great. | ||
It would just be a podcast. | ||
I think... | ||
For the longest time, it was fucking really hard to get the internet on your phone. | ||
You know, you had to download shit. | ||
And then 3G came around, got a little bit better. | ||
But then 4G LTE came around. | ||
It's like, that shit is fast as fuck. | ||
Instantaneous streaming. | ||
Like, if you want to listen to a song, there's almost never a hiccup. | ||
It's really easy and really quick to do. | ||
That's such a game changer, man. | ||
That's so... | ||
If those DJs are like a curator, though, where do you find your new music these days? | ||
That's a good point. | ||
Because that's kind of like, if you're considered yourself, I guess, like a Twitter curator for sort of that kind of content. | ||
Yeah, that's a really, really good point. | ||
Where do you find new music? | ||
That's a really good point. | ||
That's why I'm so out of the fucking loop. | ||
I don't know anything. | ||
People tell me about some guy like, you know, Eddie was talking about that King Daddy guy. | ||
Never heard of him until he talked about him. | ||
I think it's Daddy Yankee, and it's just a... | ||
Daddy Yankee? | ||
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Yeah. | |
Okay, well, whatever. | ||
I never heard that either. | ||
But think about that. | ||
You know, Eddie found out. | ||
He's like, I can't believe this guy's huge. | ||
I just found out from him in real time on the show. | ||
Like, there's so many people that no one has ever heard of that are gigantic. | ||
Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
We're talking about that King Daddy guy. | ||
Like, I didn't find out about it until you just said it. | ||
Yeah, he's huge. | ||
He's massive. | ||
He's playing the Staples Center. | ||
It looked like a movie. | ||
Staples Center, King Daddy. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Come on. | ||
That sounds like a Chris Rock movie. | ||
Well, it's just an amazing time. | ||
It's an amazing time. | ||
It's an amazing time for promotion. | ||
It's an amazing time to do podcasts. | ||
I mean, this is the craziest time ever for podcasts. | ||
It's this new thing. | ||
I mean, we've been doing it for six years next month. | ||
It'll be December 30th or something like that. | ||
It was six years. | ||
In that time, podcasts have gone from being some shit that people did for a goof to one of the few ways that I get entertainment. | ||
It's one of the major ways. | ||
My major ways are Walking Dead, shows like that that I'll watch at home, hunting shows, MMA fights, and podcasts. | ||
It's a major part of what I listen to. | ||
Not my own shit, but... | ||
Radio Lab, the TED Podcast Hour, Hardcore History, Ari's show, Joey's show. | ||
There's all these podcasts to listen to. | ||
There's always entertainment. | ||
Always, constantly. | ||
It's constant entertainment. | ||
And I can't tell you how many fucking people I've talked to that say, hey man, listen to your show, and because of your show, we start our own podcast. | ||
Anybody can do it! | ||
Why not? | ||
Why not? | ||
If it's good, if you have one person take a fucking chance on your podcast, one person, and they go, that's pretty fucking good, and they send it to their friend, dude, listen to these guys shoot the shit about shit. | ||
We saw it the other day when we were talking about Josh Olin, who we had in on the podcast. | ||
We both watched a podcast that had like... | ||
2,000 downloads on YouTube, maybe. | ||
And it was over a year ago. | ||
And Jamie and I both watched it. | ||
We both watched it because we wanted to see these guys take on it. | ||
So these guys take on it, which was intelligent. | ||
They're funny guys. | ||
They had good points. | ||
They gave us, like, an insight into it. | ||
Now, because of that, I'll see that podcast, and I'll go, oh, these guys, I remember these guys. | ||
And that's what people do. | ||
And then, do-do-do-do-do, next thing you know, you got 100,000 downloads a month. | ||
I mean, that's not unusual. | ||
That's super possible and plausible now. | ||
All you have to do is focus on something and put together something that's really good and unusual. | ||
We all have friends, like my friend Dave Dolan, who just died. | ||
Let me tell you something. | ||
If that motherfucker was alive, if he lived in LA, I'd have him on the podcast every week. | ||
I'm kicking myself that I never had him on while he was alive, but he never comes to LA. That guy would be hilarious on a podcast. | ||
If someone gave him a podcast like the fucking Investigator Chronicles, the Private Investigator Chronicles, and you just let him be himself. | ||
He could figure out how to be himself. | ||
God, it would be hilarious. | ||
What if you could do stand-up like in your podcast where you're talking, you're telling jokes, And everyone's connected to your headset so you could hear people laugh. | ||
Oh, they would also start yelling shit at you. | ||
And then you shut down. | ||
As soon as they yell, you have a heckle button. | ||
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Boom! | |
They're gone. | ||
Yeah, but you would have to find them. | ||
How would you pick them out? | ||
I mean, how many people are on the line at the same time? | ||
If you had to have a show, like a show in a theater. | ||
They'd have to have a voice recognizer. | ||
Yeah, if you do a show in a theater with a thousand people, it can actually be kind of intimate. | ||
If you say anything other than laughing, you've got to record all your laughs, and only those sounds can come out. | ||
Any other sounds, you get cut off. | ||
What if you go, ah! | ||
You've got to do as many, because then you get cut off, and you find out why you got cut off, and then you get that laugh in there. | ||
You go, I need that one. | ||
You want people to be able to express themselves. | ||
You want people to be able to express themselves? | ||
If there wasn't hecklers, if people respected you, how cool would that be? | ||
It might be like three or four people listening to you. | ||
It's totally possible. | ||
Like a conference call, really. | ||
Exactly. | ||
Like a giant conference call. | ||
But the problem would be, like what I was saying, you can have a show with a thousand people in the audience and it's kind of intimate. | ||
It is kind of intimate. | ||
You can make it intimate. | ||
But you're all looking at each other. | ||
And that's the way people are supposed to talk. | ||
I think I'm describing a webcam show. | ||
I already got that! | ||
I'm an idiot! | ||
You can do webcam. | ||
You can do webcam. | ||
But that's texting. | ||
Those guys don't get to talk. | ||
There's no sound. | ||
That's different. | ||
I made that up. | ||
Imagine if the girl was listening to all those guys jerking off simultaneously. | ||
She's got 2,700 guys. | ||
And you just hear, instead of an audience of cheering and laughing, you just hear 2,700 groans. | ||
Oh, you fucking bitch. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
Finger, asshole. | ||
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Blah. | |
Just 2,700 dudes. | ||
All you could hear is them jacking off simultaneously. | ||
I'm going to have to turn you down. | ||
You're just a little too wild. | ||
That would be so ridiculous. | ||
That's coming, though. | ||
That's coming. | ||
Watch. | ||
We're supposed to look at each other. | ||
Stand up from your house, from your living room. | ||
Joey could just sit there and smoke. | ||
He's kind of doing that on Periscope without the sound. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Without the sound. | ||
He gets those little hearts, though. | ||
Did you watch the acid podcast? | ||
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Yeah. | |
No, I heard it was ridiculous. | ||
They wanted me to do acid. | ||
I wouldn't do it. | ||
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Why would you do it? | |
I didn't want to do it, man. | ||
I'm not attracted to that kind of experience. | ||
Acid? | ||
Nah, that doesn't sound good to me. | ||
What does it sound like to you? | ||
It sounds like a horrible time. | ||
No, I've heard it's great. | ||
Duncan swears by it. | ||
Maybe you should talk to Duncan about it. | ||
I don't think I'm programmed for it. | ||
Have you tried it? | ||
When I was a kid. | ||
It was like a synthetic mushroom feel. | ||
I'd rather have the real mushrooms. | ||
I'm down with mushrooms, but not... | ||
A synthetic form of what's in mushrooms. | ||
That's what I think it is. | ||
I think LSD and acid is a synthetic form of mushrooms, right? | ||
Am I guessing wrong? | ||
Well, they're all similar. | ||
They're similar. | ||
A lot of the tryptamines, they share... | ||
Psilocybin is really close to DMT. The way it synthesizes in the body, it's super close. | ||
I'm going to butcher this, but it's NN... Dimethyltryptamine and I think, what is the psilocybin version of it? | ||
4-Fox-4-Aloxy-NN-dimethyltryptamine, something like that. | ||
Like it's real close. | ||
It's like they're kissing cousins. | ||
All those really powerful tryptamines, they're all like neighbors of each other. | ||
It's very strange. | ||
And they're all the closest to human neurochemistry. | ||
One of the most fucked up things about the really powerful psychedelic drugs is the strongest ones, like mushrooms and like DMT. DMT is the strongest. | ||
It's like an actual human neurotransmitter. | ||
I mean, it's not even like an addition. | ||
It's not even an addition to it. | ||
It's actually produced in your own body. | ||
That's the weirdest thing ever about drugs, that the strongest one we know of, your own body makes. | ||
The fact that most people don't know that, the fact that most people know that Kanye West is married to Kim Kardashian, most people don't know that your brain produces the most powerful psychedelic drug that science has ever observed. | ||
That's a nutty thing, man. | ||
That is a weird, weird aspect of who we are as human beings. | ||
What kind of a strange, waking up, infantile civilization we are. | ||
In the middle of... | ||
The greatest era of technological innovation ever. | ||
Wi-Fi, the ability to download songs instantly on phones like we were talking about, the periscoping and fucking just insane ability to connect with each other at this day and age. | ||
We still have illegal marijuana, illegal psychedelic drugs, illegal... | ||
Bill Gates, or Steve Jobs said that LSD was what led him to create Apple. | ||
He said it was like one of the most important moments of his life, was having an LSD trip. | ||
There's so many problems in this world, so many different levels, coming from all different angles, from all different forms of life. | ||
There's so much shit. | ||
Everyone's trying to fight this, they're trying to fight that, they're into this, they're into that. | ||
Everyone's got their own cause. | ||
But if we all got together, And do what we did with weed and the legislation and all that stuff. | ||
We did that with just one thing. | ||
One thing. | ||
We just focused all our power. | ||
It would fix everything. | ||
If we made it a law that every politician has to do ayahuasca. | ||
If we did that... | ||
That'll fix all the problems. | ||
It would fix a lot. | ||
Even if that's too much work, have them have one DMT trip a month while they're in office. | ||
Everybody has to have a ceremony. | ||
You get together and you meet with the elves and they tell you whether or not you're fucking up. | ||
One law. | ||
That's all. | ||
Forget about all this other shit and we're scattering just one thing. | ||
Make them do mushrooms or DMT. That's part of being a politician. | ||
Just to make sure that the odds are that you'll have compassion for the people and not let your greed take over. | ||
And be interviewed while you're under too. | ||
You have to have proof. | ||
You have to have a witness, and that's to be videotaped. | ||
Put them under, then talk to them about life. | ||
Yeah, have a shaman, flying all these guys from Peru. | ||
Could you imagine if you did that to Dick Cheney? | ||
Like dudes from Chile, they're going to fake like they're Peruvian. | ||
There's going to be all these fake Peruvian, you know, big money, big money. | ||
Now that's a big racket. | ||
I hate to break it to you, but those leopard claws that dude has for earrings, them shits are plastic. | ||
That's fake. | ||
Homeboy's fake. | ||
What leprechaun? | ||
I'm saying. | ||
Oh, yeah. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
It's conspiracy theory. | ||
They ship it in Mexicans. | ||
It's just cheaper if we just fucking... | ||
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Mexican, Peruvian, they're the same. | |
But you can't... | ||
Yeah, you gotta... | ||
You know, they gotta kind of look Peruvian. | ||
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The ayahuasca in my country is the best. | |
You start bringing Brazilians in, right? | ||
Everybody, pay attention. | ||
But you know what? | ||
Everybody gonna get their cup. | ||
We're gonna put their cup. | ||
Oh, just like that. | ||
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Nice. | |
Nice. | ||
Everybody. | ||
Nice. | ||
You're gonna see guatch. | ||
My guatch. | ||
My guatch is good. | ||
Everything I do is for ayahuasca. | ||
I fight for ayahuasca. | ||
I live for ayahuasca. | ||
That was terrible. | ||
That would change the world, though. | ||
It sounds like a joke, but that would. | ||
One law. | ||
Can you imagine if you could get Dick Cheney and get him fucked up on mushrooms and talk to him about life? | ||
That would be worth so much money. | ||
All these capitalist dudes, you want to make some real money, Donald Trump? | ||
This is what you do. | ||
You eat five grams of mushrooms on a webcam. | ||
If Donald Trump was trying to raise money for his campaign, and that's what he said, that was his big... | ||
That was his big gimmick. | ||
He's going to take five grams of mushrooms on a webcam and just talk to Skype with people from all over the world and answer their questions about what he's going to do to fix the world. | ||
His hair would light on fire. | ||
Spontaneous combustion. | ||
He'd probably shave his head halfway into the conversation. | ||
I can't do this anymore. | ||
He'd probably be like... | ||
He'd be like, I've got cotton candy on my head. | ||
I can't fucking hang with this anymore. | ||
But I think that... | ||
If you could do something like that and make it something that would be culturally acceptable. | ||
It sounds ridiculous now. | ||
We're going to send the fucking presidential candidates down to the jungle and make them do some drugs. | ||
It sounds ridiculous, right? | ||
But if there was a culturally... | ||
It's only ridiculous because you have to leave the country, which doesn't make any sense. | ||
If you do DMT, right, one of the things that you feel is that you're not even there. | ||
You've entered into some completely different dimension. | ||
Some alternative... | ||
Co-existing universe is what it feels like you step into. | ||
It doesn't matter if you do that in Peru or in Japan or on the moon. | ||
It doesn't matter. | ||
It doesn't matter. | ||
Like, where you're going has nothing to do with where you are. | ||
It really has nothing to do with it. | ||
It's only because it's illegal that people are forced to go to these indigenous cultures and do it there. | ||
If it was legal, you could have a shamanic retreat center in America, and people could go to a shamanic retreat center, and it could be treated just as respected as going to, you know, whatever, a psychiatrist, or just as respected as going to a fucking cancer doctor or an oncologist or anybody, just getting your body checked out. | ||
One of the only countries on the planet Where ayahuasca is praised and legal is the same country where they take a month off from work and party straight. | ||
Where's that? | ||
Brazil! | ||
They take a month off. | ||
Dude, Carnival! | ||
They just party for a month. | ||
Is it totally legal in Brazil? | ||
Ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow. | ||
It's totally legal. | ||
The UN trying to impose some shit, and they're like, dude, fuck you. | ||
You're not taking away our ayahuasca. | ||
Damn, maybe we should move to Brazil. | ||
Dude, think about that. | ||
Dude, how long did it take us to learn Portuguese? | ||
Do you think I could do stand-up if I learned Portuguese? | ||
Are you going to do stand-up in Brazil? | ||
So, like, have you ever thought about end-of-the-world scenarios? | ||
Have you ever thought about, like, if Yellowstone blows up, where are you going to move? | ||
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Yes. | |
I'm moving to Brazil. | ||
Either Brazil or Australia. | ||
Those are the spots. | ||
Australia would be way easier. | ||
Everybody speaks English. | ||
I just got to get used to the wrong side of the road or convince them to drive on the correct side of the road, which would probably be better. | ||
That's how Americans think. | ||
If I go to Australia, I'm going to tell them, listen, faggots, stop driving the left, drive on the right like a fucking normal... | ||
We invented the car, okay? | ||
Tenth Planet Florinopolis. | ||
Yeah, there you go. | ||
That's going to happen. | ||
Why not? | ||
But do you think... | ||
Is it possible that you could see the shit hitting the fan and moving to another country? | ||
Have you ever considered that? | ||
Yes. | ||
Where have you considered moving to? | ||
Australia's nice. | ||
Very nice. | ||
When you live in, like, Melbourne's like Santa Monica. | ||
I'm going there tomorrow for the first time. | ||
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Yeah. | |
My first time in Melbourne. | ||
Sydney's really nice. | ||
I love Sydney. | ||
Sydney is awesome. | ||
People are cool. | ||
They are cool as fuck there. | ||
They're real friendly. | ||
Very westernized. | ||
Very westernized. | ||
Like, you could totally fit right in there. | ||
Like, if you had to live in Sydney, or, that's the only place I've been, but I'd be like, yeah, that's just like living in a nice city in America where people have a cool accent. | ||
Totally. | ||
That would be it. | ||
You know? | ||
Did you go with me to Australia ever? | ||
Did you ever do one of the UFC's out there? | ||
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Yes. | |
That's right. | ||
Remember when we took over that bar and got blasted? | ||
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Yes. | |
Oh my god, dude. | ||
You went nuts. | ||
He bought the whole bar, drinks, and... | ||
Oh my god. | ||
Dude, we spent thousands of dollars. | ||
We went crazy. | ||
We just decided, it was me and Tommy Segura and Eddie, we had a whole day off. | ||
So we went to see that Leonardo DiCaprio movie where they trick you, where he pretends, you know, it's all a dream. | ||
Inception? | ||
Yeah, whatever. | ||
No, no, no, it was the other one. | ||
Shutter Island? | ||
Yeah, the island one. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
Remember, we were both mad. | ||
All three of us were mad. | ||
We were like, what the fuck? | ||
You can't just do that. | ||
Oh, it was just a dream, psych! | ||
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Just so stupid. | |
Fuck your dream. | ||
No dreams were that perfect. | ||
It was like one of the only times ever in my life that we just made a decision to get drunk. | ||
Like, let's go get drunk. | ||
Like, let's go to a bar. | ||
Let's find a bar and get fucked up. | ||
And we're like, yeah, let's do it. | ||
We just all decided to go get fucked up. | ||
Like, there was nothing else to do. | ||
There was, you know, I didn't have a show until the next day. | ||
So we went to this bar and just went off. | ||
He just bought everybody drinks. | ||
Everybody. | ||
Just kept buying shots. | ||
We bought hundreds of shots. | ||
I don't even know how much money I spent. | ||
It was insane. | ||
We literally were just buying people drinks and high-fiving people and hugging people. | ||
It was nuts. | ||
It was nuts. | ||
We stayed there for hours. | ||
We were wrecked. | ||
That was about as drunk as I've ever gotten as a grown man. | ||
And then went back to the hotel room. | ||
I think I threw up. | ||
I don't remember. | ||
And then the next day we had a show. | ||
I think that was Joe Stevenson, George Sauteropolis. | ||
Was it? | ||
Yeah. | ||
What was the main event? | ||
That I don't know. | ||
God, there's so many fights now. | ||
It's crazy. | ||
It's crazy how many fights there are. | ||
I can't keep track of shit. | ||
It's impossible. | ||
Did you see Vitor just take out Dan Henderson again? | ||
Damn. | ||
Head kick. | ||
Damn. | ||
Who'd ever thought? | ||
Who'd ever thought? | ||
At one point, there was only one Brazilian that could box, and it was Vitor. | ||
But Murillo could box too, and... | ||
I think Henzo could box a little bit. | ||
He had good, you know. | ||
Vitor's kicks, though, they have changed his whole game. | ||
Because Vitor's always had hand... | ||
You know, Vitor's had like seven hand operations. | ||
Yeah. | ||
He's broken his hands like seven times. | ||
So what do you think about... | ||
Him being off TRT, what do you think about that? | ||
Well, the reality is, okay, if he really needed it so bad that he said he needed it before, and it was a medical issue, his body was low on testosterone, and he had to take it. | ||
And then he took it, and it was just destroying everybody. | ||
It looked like a world beater. | ||
Goddamn, remember when Vitor was... | ||
You've got to think that he was probably fighting with low test for a long time. | ||
Like the Matt Lindland days, and maybe even Sakuraba fight. | ||
Low what? | ||
Low test. | ||
Low testosterone. | ||
You think so? | ||
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Maybe. | |
Remember what he looked like when he was 19 against Randy Couture? | ||
But, okay, that's true, but do you ever see what he looked like when he fought Rich Franklin? | ||
He knocked out Rich Franklin, but go to Rich Franklin versus Vitor Belfort. | ||
He's not as big? | ||
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No. | |
No. | ||
He's smooth, dude. | ||
He doesn't look shredded at all. | ||
And he's still bombing on Rich Franklin. | ||
He still had the skills and everything that he had, but I think it might have been one of the reasons why he fades so quickly. | ||
One of the reasons why it's hard for him to sustain a hard pace without the TRT. And I think that a fight like the Dan Henderson fight points to the fact that he's still super dangerous. | ||
He's got nasty skills and really fast as fuck, but he didn't do anything. | ||
Look at him there. | ||
That's him against Rich Franklin. | ||
Look at his body. | ||
I mean, he's like real smooth. | ||
I mean, he doesn't look like a pipsqueak. | ||
He still looks like an athlete for sure, but it doesn't look like Vitor in the TRT days. | ||
Not even fucking close. | ||
This is after TRT. No, this is before TRT. See, he fought like this, and then he fought Anderson, and then all the way, by the way, this is all after he tested positive for steroids, the first time he fought in Pride. | ||
In Vegas, he tested positive for steroids when he fought, I think it was Dan Henderson. | ||
He lost that fight, but he tested positive for something, some metabolite. | ||
That was the UFC? No, that was Pride. | ||
They don't test? | ||
They did, when they were in Vegas. | ||
They had the one show in the United States, they tested. | ||
And that's the one show where Nick Diaz got popped for fighting Gomi, remember? | ||
He got popped for weed, and Vitor got popped for steroids. | ||
So when the side effect of using steroids, and this is one of the reasons why a lot of people are against testosterone replacement therapy for fighters, is that when you use steroids, your body stops producing testosterone on its own. | ||
So you can get tested. | ||
The steroids have since left your body, but your body's not, the endocrine system hasn't recovered yet. | ||
So you go to the doctor and you go, hey man, I got really low testosterone. | ||
And the doctor's like, we certainly do. | ||
This is proof positive. | ||
We have it here in the blood. | ||
They do a blood test. | ||
They get the results. | ||
They put the results against the commission. | ||
And they say, hey, this guy needs tests. | ||
And so they give him a testosterone use exemption, a TUE. And that was what all these fighters were getting. | ||
But the complaints from the people that were clean or wanted everybody to be clean, allegedly were clean, I should say, Was that the only reason why these guys have low tests in their early 30s, like, you know, some of these guys, like, they had a guy that was 25 that was on testosterone replacement. | ||
And he looked like a tank. | ||
The only way a guy would need this at that age is if he abused his system. | ||
If he took testosterone and fucked up his endocrine system. | ||
So that was, like, the big argument against the testosterone use exemption. | ||
So if you look at him right there, now pull up Vitor Belfort versus Luke Rockhold and This is a totally different animal. | ||
I mean, this is like two years later, right? | ||
And he doesn't look remotely like the same guy. | ||
I mean, he looks like a goddamn... | ||
This was at the weigh-ins, by the way. | ||
The weigh-ins... | ||
Go up where he's throwing that wheel kick. | ||
Right there. | ||
Bam! | ||
Look at the fucking difference in his build! | ||
Dude! | ||
I mean, what the fuck?! | ||
This is the same weight class, okay? | ||
But he looks like he's, fuck, at least 10 pounds of muscle bigger. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Completely shredded. | ||
Look at that. | ||
10 pounds of muscle more. | ||
What fight was that? | ||
Luke Rockhold? | ||
Yep. | ||
That's after he smashed Luke Rockhold. | ||
And so he was on TRT here? | ||
Yes. | ||
He was shot. | ||
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Damn. | |
Well, I think Vitor on TRT is one of the scariest fighters the MMA world has ever seen. | ||
It's crazy that he's still fighting and at that level. | ||
And at the highest level. | ||
He's the only guy left. | ||
Nope. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Him and Josh Barnett. | ||
I would have loved to have seen Vitor like this, TRT Vitor versus Weidman, TRT Vitor versus Anderson Silva. | ||
I would have loved to see it. | ||
I understand that it's not fair, and I wouldn't expect Weidman to take that fight if he knew that Vitor was on TRT. I wouldn't expect it, but goddamn, I would have loved to have seen it. | ||
And no way Luke Rockhold is on TRT. No way, right? | ||
Well, you can never say no way because guys have tested positive that looked absolutely like shit. | ||
You never know because they look like shit and the testosterone makes them look a little bit better or whatever they're taking makes them look a little bit better. | ||
Whose arm is bigger? | ||
Look at his arm and then look at Vito's arm. | ||
Well, Rook Rockhold, first of all, is taller. | ||
So if he's going to weigh the same amount, he's going to have less muscle. | ||
There's just no way around it. | ||
It'll be longer and he gets a lot of leverage. | ||
Damn, look at Vito's arm right there. | ||
Holy shit. | ||
Oh my god, he's so jacked. | ||
Looks like Mark Kerr. | ||
But Luke Rockhold is a fucking savage. | ||
I mean, that dude's a stud. | ||
He's one of the toughest guys in the sport and real smart, real technical, but TRT Vitor ran him over. | ||
TRT Vitor wheel kicked him in the fucking head and beat him down and he beat down Dan Henderson like that. | ||
He knocked out Michael Bisping with a head kick and fucked his eye up permanently. | ||
Michael Bisping's eye is permanently disfigured because of Vitor kicking him in the head. | ||
This is, like, he's one of the scariest guys in the history of the sport when he was on TRT. It was like a four-fight run where he was just fucking smashing people. | ||
And the Dan Anderson fight was one of the most devastating. | ||
Because it wasn't just the kick. | ||
He had uncorked a fucking left uppercut before that kick, hurt him real bad, and then head kicked him and knocked him out. | ||
He was fucking terrifying when he was on TRT. So he's more tentative now. | ||
He didn't do a single thing for the first two minutes in this fight. | ||
He literally didn't throw a punch or a kick. | ||
He just circled for two minutes. | ||
And then Dan threw a couple inside leg kicks. | ||
There was a couple little whiffs. | ||
Nothing really connected. | ||
And then Vitor just uncorks that head kick. | ||
So the question is, when you look at Vitor now, he definitely looks better in this fight than he did in the Weidman fight. | ||
He looked more built, but he still didn't look like he looked when he was on TRT. Look at that shot down where he's punching Dan Henderson in the head. | ||
Look at that. | ||
Jesus fucking Christ. | ||
Look at the build on him, dude. | ||
He looks like a lion. | ||
Look at his neck. | ||
Look at the fucking traps on this guy when he's throwing this punch. | ||
And he's connecting perfectly on Dan Henderson's jaw in that shot. | ||
That is a classic picture. | ||
He was a monster, dude. | ||
But the question is, what is he doing now? | ||
If he needed testosterone replacement before, how is he... | ||
How has his body recovered like this? | ||
Has he figured out some nutritional way to get around it? | ||
Or is he figuring out some undetectable way to use? | ||
No one knows. | ||
We're not going to know unless he gets caught. | ||
Based on what his body looked like in his last fight against Dan Henderson, do you think his body looks like he's not on it? | ||
He definitely doesn't look like... | ||
Tim Kennedy said it his best. | ||
He said it doesn't look like Vitor is using as many steroids. | ||
Kennedy's hilarious. | ||
He said he wanted to fight the slow... | ||
I'm interested in a fight, he said, with the slower, fatter Vitor. | ||
Yeah, meanwhile, it looks like he does steroids, too. | ||
Well, he's a tank. | ||
Yeah, I know. | ||
I'm not saying he does, but fuck, he's yoked. | ||
He's yoked. | ||
Damn! | ||
He's 5'10". | ||
He walks around at 220 pounds. | ||
I'm not saying he does steroids, but I'm saying if he got out, I wouldn't be like, oh my god! | ||
I know, right? | ||
Well, you know... | ||
Who the fuck knows? | ||
Who knows who's doing it and who's not doing it? | ||
I'm a fan of his, though, by the way. | ||
Tim Kennedy? | ||
That was a compliment. | ||
You know what I mean? | ||
That was a compliment. | ||
I think, you know... | ||
I just did it. | ||
Did that, you know. | ||
Why don't I say it? | ||
You gotta fix that, bro. | ||
I think like... | ||
Can you control what we see? | ||
Or is he controlling it? | ||
We can do it if we set it up. | ||
I can connect to Apple TV. I think that's the future for you, man. | ||
You can just... | ||
Because you're really good at looking through shit. | ||
Yeah, but it's distracting. | ||
It's better to have Jamie do it because I like to engage with the person I'm talking to. | ||
I don't want to look down and type shit in. | ||
I do that occasionally, but I think it's best we figure out a rhythm. | ||
Oh, yeah. | ||
I get it. | ||
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I get it. | |
Figured out how to do this shit. | ||
So Rhonda's fighting in Australia in front of 70,000 people this weekend. | ||
That's for sure? | ||
70? | ||
Yeah. | ||
Well, they had sold, like, as of a couple weeks ago, there were already, like, 50,000 tickets sold. | ||
Remember those people who thought women's MMA would never make it? | ||
How about Dana? | ||
There were so many people. | ||
Dana didn't think so. | ||
It has to be someone like her, though. | ||
What's interesting is, like, Ioana, the strawweight champion, she's, like, scarier than Ronda. | ||
When she beats people up, she smashes her face in. | ||
Yeah, you know, for me, and I think a big part of the reason there are those people that thought women's MMA would never make it, and they're still holding on to that. | ||
They think that Rhonda's just a freak, and after her, it's over. | ||
There's still some people. | ||
But the reason was, everyone kind of thought that at first, too, because in the beginning, back in like '99, 2000, the girls that were doing MMA had no skill. | ||
They had nothing. | ||
So it looked like, man, girls really can't fight. | ||
I even doubted it. | ||
But that one time in Vegas where we went, I forget what show it was. | ||
It was tough enough. | ||
It was tough enough. | ||
And there were some girls going, I'm like, holy shit! | ||
We had so much fun. | ||
Right there, that's when I became pro-female MMA. That's when I thought, like, wow, people like watching girls pull their hair and scratch each other. | ||
We like watching that. | ||
We'll watch that in a second. | ||
Big, you know... | ||
We watch it on World Star Hip Hop all the time. | ||
We went there to see Nick the Goat Thompson fight. | ||
Remember? | ||
He was the main event. | ||
That's right. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Nick Thompson, that's right. | ||
Interesting, too. | ||
I forget who that girl was. | ||
Super smart guy. | ||
He was like a law student. | ||
The chick had legit jiu-jitsu. | ||
That's the first time I saw legit... | ||
Jiu-Jitsu in a women's MMA fight. | ||
I don't know, it was like 2000, 98, 98. And then what Jeff Osborn did, he's the original Invicta. | ||
Yeah, hook and shoot. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Well, Osborn put on Eve Edwards versus Aaron Riley in like 96 or some shit, right? | ||
When was that fight? | ||
I don't remember the year, but it was... | ||
Like 99, maybe? | ||
The same era of Mecca, and remember the Valley Tudo? | ||
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Yeah. | |
What was it? | ||
IBC? Yeah. | ||
Remember those days? | ||
Fuck yeah. | ||
The Pedro? | ||
Remember the Pedro? | ||
That's like... | ||
You know, talking about those days, it's like in metal, that's the equivalent to the German thrash scene. | ||
It's just like that. | ||
Remember that Mecca and IVC? Most people don't know what that is. | ||
Do you remember that dude, the Pedro? | ||
Yeah! | ||
Remember when Gary Goodrich reached down in his pants and grabbed his dick? | ||
Yeah, I made his... | ||
Gary Goodrich reached down and crushed this guy's balls in his hands. | ||
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With his feet. | |
With his feet. | ||
In his hands, too, though, right? | ||
He did it with his feet. | ||
Only with his feet? | ||
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I tell you what, Eddie Bravo. | |
I turned his nuts into peanut butter. | ||
That's what he said, word for word. | ||
See if you can find that. | ||
The Pedro versus Gary Goodridge nut shot. | ||
The Pedro versus Gary Goodridge nut smash. | ||
Yeah, testicle crunch. | ||
He loved it. | ||
You were allowed to do that back in the day. | ||
You were allowed to grab the ropes. | ||
Remember Keith Hackney versus Joseon? | ||
Had Joseon at side control. | ||
Joseon held onto the headlock. | ||
It was before the Von Flute choke was invented. | ||
He was punching his balls. | ||
And he's just wailing on his balls. | ||
Wailing on his balls. | ||
That's the new era. | ||
Eventually, it's going to be MMA where balls are legal. | ||
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Goddamn. | |
When the balls are in play, the game changes. | ||
Remember when we had that sketch we were trying to do for the man show? | ||
That was a real extreme sack fighting. | ||
That's the next level. | ||
And Bobby Lee was going to be the champ because he had the littlest balls. | ||
Dude, you make ball shots legal in MMA, it changes everything. | ||
You don't keep your hands up, you keep your hands low. | ||
Okay, what's going on here? | ||
What do you see? | ||
I found a knee to the... | ||
No, he like grabbed his balls. | ||
I didn't see that. | ||
Extreme sacrifice. | ||
He might have not remembered it right, honestly. | ||
I kind of remember him doing it with his hands. | ||
No, he does it with his feet. | ||
It's with his feet. | ||
This is Gary Goodrich in Pride. | ||
That's in Pride. | ||
It's definitely not it. | ||
It's not in that either. | ||
That's Pedro Hizzo. | ||
It's actually The Pedro. | ||
That's what I typed in up here. | ||
You typed in The Pedro. | ||
Yeah, you know, it might be one of those ones where nobody has it. | ||
Yeah, here we go. | ||
Gary Goodrich. | ||
Go down to The Pedro, the fourth one down. | ||
Click on that. | ||
Let's see if this is it. | ||
This is The Pedro. | ||
This is it. | ||
But this is him, but that's not Gary Goodrich. | ||
He's fighting. | ||
That's somebody else. | ||
Oh, this is a highlight reel of the Pedro. | ||
And you know what? | ||
He's not going to show that. | ||
He might. | ||
He might just say, look at this. | ||
Man, I want to know about that guy. | ||
I want to know about the Pedro. | ||
That guy was a... | ||
He was like... | ||
He's a pioneer. | ||
Yeah, man. | ||
Look at all these old school nets. | ||
They used to put nets around the ring. | ||
People don't know about the Pedro. | ||
Well, they used to fight in rings. | ||
People don't know that Chuck Liddell fought fucking... | ||
Pele. | ||
Pele. | ||
Jose Landy. | ||
Jose Pele Landy Johns, who was, at the time, the baddest motherfucker from Shootbox. | ||
Pele was a beast, man. | ||
When he was young, he was devastating. | ||
He was like the leader of the Shootbox crew, and he was one of the best. | ||
And Chuck Liddell fought him, no rules, with fucking bare knuckles. | ||
That's a wild-ass fight. | ||
All you UFC fanatics that are under 30, I mean, you gotta know your history. | ||
You gotta go back and study. | ||
To us, it's like studying the 30s and the 40s. | ||
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You know what I mean? | |
We gotta go back, look at the 60s. | ||
You gotta look at that old school stuff, son. | ||
Yeah, that's the real shit. | ||
You gotta understand how the masters did it. | ||
IVC, and what was the other one called? | ||
Remember when Marco lost? | ||
Federico La Penda. | ||
He was the first Dana White. | ||
Oh yeah, that's right. | ||
What was his organization called? | ||
It was either IVC or Mecca. | ||
And they still have Jungle Fight. | ||
It was two dudes. | ||
It was Fabrico La Penda and then there was another guy. | ||
That's some serious... | ||
That was late 90s MMA. Bare knuckle. | ||
How about when Marco Huas fought Oleg Taktarov in a hotel in Brazil? | ||
They had like a chandelier above the ring. | ||
They fought in a ring. | ||
I don't remember that one. | ||
Bare knuckle. | ||
Yeah, I had it on VHS. It's the most ridiculous scenario. | ||
Is it real? | ||
Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
They fought bare knuckle. | ||
It was like a slow, methodical... | ||
Find... | ||
Find that. | ||
Marco Huas versus Oleg Taktarov. | ||
They fought in Brazil. | ||
It's in a ring. | ||
And they have this ridiculous chandelier above the ring. | ||
You're looking at this chandelier. | ||
What the fuck is this? | ||
Where are you? | ||
Second name. | ||
Marco Huas. | ||
Oleg Taktarov. | ||
He was one of the original fighters in the UFC, the first ever that I had ever heard of Sambo before. | ||
I'd never even heard of it before. | ||
This guy was throwing up these leg locks. | ||
It's hilarious when you look at it like, we thought Oleg Taktarov was a leg lock master. | ||
You compare him to someone like Eddie Cummings, and you look at how the leg lock game has changed in 20 years. | ||
It's just radically changed. | ||
People have figured out all these crazy new ways to control and enter, and we used to think that Oleg Taktarov was the shit. | ||
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Yeah. | |
He's a tough prick. | ||
Remember when Henzo upkicked him and knocked him out? | ||
He just went back starts. | ||
That was World Combat Championships, right? | ||
The WCC or something like that? | ||
That was the same one where Tom Erickson fought Murillo Bustamante for like 90 minutes. | ||
Oh shit, that's right. | ||
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Remember that? | |
Yeah, and Tom Erickson was like 300 pounds. | ||
He was a beast, dude. | ||
He was 280. He was giant. | ||
Tom Erickson was the first male, not male, but heavyweight, unbeatable force. | ||
Tom Erickson came along. | ||
He came along. | ||
Heath Herring did. | ||
Heath Herring took his back. | ||
In pride. | ||
He got tired. | ||
Tom got tired. | ||
Yeah, this is it. | ||
Like, look where they are. | ||
They're in a fucking... | ||
Like, some angles you get to see... | ||
Like, I guess, actually, that thing above their head, there's this crazy, like... | ||
It's hard to see it from this angle. | ||
Dude, I forgot all about this fight. | ||
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Look at this. | |
Look at this fight. | ||
This is crazy. | ||
Oh, he takes half. | ||
Just landed some good shots. | ||
Bare knuckle. | ||
And how long does this one go for? | ||
Oh, it was a long-ass fight. | ||
This looks like 30 minutes, it says. | ||
But they fought in like a conference hall, man. | ||
This is after they had both left the UFC. It looks like a place where you have two big fights. | ||
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Yeah, see? | |
Look at that. | ||
Look at the ceiling. | ||
Look at that fucking chandelier. | ||
What is that? | ||
That's cool. | ||
It's bizarre. | ||
Oh! | ||
Oh, like, throwing down. | ||
Oh, look, just tagged him. | ||
I mean, like, we thought, like, Marco Huas at the time was, like, a world-class striker, you know? | ||
It's interesting. | ||
Back then he was. | ||
Well, he was really good for MMA. He was really good at a bunch of different things. | ||
But if you compared him back then to a guy like Andy Hoog, who was fighting K-1 at the same time, who was a real world-class striker, or a guy like Jerome LeBanner, or, you know... | ||
Peter Ertz. | ||
It's a big fucking difference. | ||
Marco Huas, first guy to use leg kicks successfully in the UFC. Paul Varlins. | ||
Chopped down the fucking polar bear. | ||
Another classic fighter. | ||
Another one. | ||
You youngsters, watch Paul Varlins and Marco Huas, man. | ||
Paul Varlins was the first pigeon-toed giant American male to fight in the UFC, too. | ||
Giant. | ||
There's been a couple of those. | ||
Remember his style? | ||
I don't remember what he had. | ||
Trap fighting. | ||
Is that what they called it? | ||
Oh my god. | ||
He's a master of trap fighting. | ||
A lot of those guys had some crazy... | ||
Eve Edwards takes the cake though. | ||
Thug Jitsu. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Thug Jitsu master. | ||
That's still his Twitter handle, which is funny now because he's an analyst for Fox. | ||
And his Twitter handle is Thug Jitsu. | ||
He might have to change his shit. | ||
He's a really good analyst, man. | ||
He was on UFC, Inside, or whatever the fuck it is. | ||
Really? | ||
Yeah, he was on After the Fights, analyzing the fights, breaking down the fights this past weekend, the V Tour. | ||
I didn't know he was still on the roster. | ||
Yeah, well, he's doing analyst work now. | ||
So he's not fighting? | ||
No, he's retired. | ||
He's retired from fighting. | ||
But his analysis was really fucking good, man. | ||
Wow. | ||
The Anthony Berchak-Thomas Almeida fight, he was excellent in that. | ||
Excellent. | ||
Yeah, he's very good, dude. | ||
What, did he commentate it? | ||
No. | ||
After the fight, he broke down what happened. | ||
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Oh. | |
You know, he broke down. | ||
And then they'll talk about, like, what guys have to do in order to win the fight and what their best strategies are. | ||
He's very smooth, man. | ||
Very good. | ||
I mean, you know, Eves fought, like we said, back in the hook-and-shoot days when he fought Aaron Riley, which was like the 90s. | ||
He's been around for so long. | ||
I mean, he's got so much information in his head. | ||
And even though he lost some of his fights towards the end, he hasn't suffered to the point where he's hard to hear communicate. | ||
He's very smooth, very good communicator. | ||
So he's smart about when he got out. | ||
He was like, you know what? | ||
I just step back now. | ||
So he's still got all his faculties. | ||
He's excellent as an analyst. | ||
Those are the best analysts. | ||
Dominic Cruz, he's one of my favorites too. | ||
He's super smooth. | ||
And also, Dominic is just really hard to hit, man. | ||
He's not a guy that gets hit a lot. | ||
A big part of what he does is avoid damage. | ||
He's very smart like that. | ||
You very rarely see that guy in a crazy slugfest. | ||
So because of that, I bet he'll have a long career in being an analyst after he's done fighting too. | ||
It's amazing that there's so many football analysts after all the head trauma they go through. | ||
Yeah. | ||
I think they just pump those dudes filled with Adderall and steroids and wind up their ass and just push them out there. | ||
Get it! | ||
Who knows? | ||
Is there something that you can take? | ||
Out there that's on the black market that just makes your brain healthier. | ||
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Mushrooms. | |
There you go. | ||
Yeah, for real. | ||
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For real. | |
Mushrooms is supposedly, psilocybin is one of the few things that's supposed to be able to regenerate neurons. | ||
Whether or not that's true, I don't know. | ||
Oh, I thought you were joking. | ||
No, I read that. | ||
Amber Lyons? | ||
I read stuff like that, and then I close my laptop. | ||
Because I don't even want to know the details. | ||
I'm just going to start repeating this. | ||
Yeah. | ||
You know? | ||
I don't know if it's true. | ||
When was the last time you talked to Amber Lyons? | ||
I emailed her really recently. | ||
She's gone on some wild trip all around the world. | ||
Is she still psilocybin? | ||
Oh, she's doing everything, man. | ||
What do you got? | ||
What do you got? | ||
She's doing it. | ||
She's trying out shit in all these indigenous cultures, traveling all over the world, writing about it. | ||
Dude, the first time she was on your podcast, she was all business. | ||
It was all that reporting CNN shit. | ||
It had nothing to do. | ||
And during that podcast, you started talking about mushrooms, and you were going off, and you You broke it all down, and she's sitting there, and she was in a real bad spot in her life. | ||
Like, her life was falling apart at that point, and she just decided, fuck it. | ||
I'm going to Peru, or wherever she went in South America. | ||
By herself. | ||
By herself. | ||
One sock. | ||
Yeah. | ||
She didn't take shit. | ||
She just went. | ||
She comes back, and she's like a crusader for... | ||
Weird, huh? | ||
Psilocybin. | ||
Crazy shit, son. | ||
It's insane, man. | ||
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I know. | |
Sometimes you find the right people. | ||
We got one minute. | ||
Jesus Christ, Eddie Bravo. | ||
It's over. | ||
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Jesus Christ. | |
Well, let's do another one before EBI, the next EBI, which is December 15th. | ||
Is that right? | ||
Sunday, December 13th. | ||
Downtown LA. You can order it on pay-per-view at budovideos.com slash EBI. Five. | ||
And so that will be the weekend after the UFC. Yeah, right after Conor McGregor. | ||
Oh, perfect! | ||
That's the next day. | ||
Perfect. | ||
Downtown, bitches. | ||
Show starts at 5 o'clock. | ||
You can get your tickets at Ticketmaster. | ||
It's a 16-man submission-only tournament. | ||
is the deepest, darkest bracket ever. | ||
Danny Procopo's returning champion. | ||
Nathan Orchard. | ||
Hany Yahya, gold medalist at Abu Dhabi. | ||
Rafael Domingos. | ||
Kim Terra. | ||
Javi Vasquez. | ||
Ruben Alvarez, leg lock master from the Southeast. | ||
This is seriously, every show gets harder and harder to win. | ||
Winner take all, $20,000 possible. | ||
The winner has to win four matches. | ||
He gets paid $5,000 for each match he wins in regulation. | ||
What's the website? | ||
Real quick, because we're out of time. | ||
EddieBravoInvitational.com That's it! | ||
EddieBravo on Twitter. | ||
We'll see you fuckers. | ||
I'll see you when I get back from Australia. | ||
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