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All right. | ||
Welcome to Fight Companion. | ||
If you've never heard one of these podcasts before, this is not a normal podcast, but sometimes it becomes a normal podcast, so take a chance, bitch. | ||
Brendan Schaub's in the motherfucking house. | ||
What up? | ||
And my brother Eddie Bravo. | ||
Hello. | ||
Of course. | ||
And we're watching the fights. | ||
This is Fight Night Live from Japan. | ||
It's Josh Barnett versus Big Country, Roy Nelson. | ||
That's the main event. | ||
Uriah Hall versus Musashi. | ||
That's a fight I really want to see. | ||
That's tonight, too. | ||
That's a big fucking fight. | ||
That's a juicy one. | ||
For Uriah, it's a big one, huh? | ||
It's a huge one for Uriah. | ||
And it's a big chance for Musashi. | ||
Musashi has to take a chance. | ||
Musashi's giving him a shot, for sure. | ||
Yes, he's giving him a shot. | ||
I think if Uriah Hall shows up, that's Uriah Hall's best moments inside the octagon. | ||
Like, Uriah Hall, I think when he's sharp, is like one of the fastest fucking 185 pounds in the world. | ||
He's a monster. | ||
Athletic. | ||
You know what? | ||
One of the most, to me, the biggest curiosities about that dude is when he broke his foot. | ||
Fucked it up real bad. | ||
Like you could look down in between rounds. | ||
We were looking at his toe. | ||
His toe was jacked. | ||
The bone was sticking out of it. | ||
Hobbles back to his corner. | ||
Then the bell starts the next round. | ||
He's throwing kicks with it. | ||
He's throwing kicks with it and he's moving around like he doesn't feel a fucking thing. | ||
And then as soon as the round's over... | ||
I mean, he's wobbling. | ||
He'd barely walk at the end of the fight. | ||
That takes some serious mental toughness. | ||
For sure, which is Uriah's biggest knock, right? | ||
His mental toughness. | ||
Exactly. | ||
I trained with the guy for a year. | ||
What do you think? | ||
Athletically, he's the biggest freak. | ||
He's his own worst enemy. | ||
That's racist. | ||
If the Uriah Hulk... | ||
If the Uriah Hulk... | ||
Shows up with the right mind frame? | ||
Yeah, man. | ||
He's one of the best in the world. | ||
That's a big fucking if. | ||
And guess what? | ||
Musashi has fought guys just like Uriah Hall. | ||
He's beat OSP. He's beat Hector Lombard back in the day. | ||
He's fought big explosive guys. | ||
I think OSP has mad potential. | ||
Don't get me wrong. | ||
And I think he gets better every time he fights. | ||
Like the Shogun knockout was a big fucking deal. | ||
I was super shocked by that. | ||
The Pat Cummins knockout. | ||
I was like, whoa. | ||
OSP is getting better every single time we see him. | ||
But, like, when it comes to the execution of techniques, there's some shit that Uriah Hall can do that OSP can't quite do. | ||
See, but OSP pulls it off against world-class competition. | ||
Uriah Hall hasn't beat anybody. | ||
He's beating these kind of C-level guys. | ||
You're 100% right. | ||
That was my kind of original point, was that Uriah Hall, like, his movement inside the octagon, like, when he's sharp as he can be, he can do some freaky shit. | ||
100%. | ||
You see the Ron Stallings fight? | ||
When he hit Ron Stallings with that right hand? | ||
Dude, that right hand's a goddamn laser beam. | ||
Matrix shit. | ||
Matrix shit, right? | ||
It's just a matter of stringing together those moments when it's crucial. | ||
And OSP has definitely been able to do that more than him. | ||
100%. | ||
100%. | ||
But when it comes to those spectacular movements that Uriah Hall does, when I see OSP, I see a super strong, really tough guy who obviously works real hard and is better every time you see him fight, right? | ||
Like those fucking power left kicks he throws, especially from the left side. | ||
He's a crazy athlete. | ||
Crazy athlete. | ||
And he's got total world championship potential. | ||
If that guy keeps accelerating at the pace he's at now, you can see OSP at a world championship level in a year, maybe even two years. | ||
True. | ||
100%. | ||
What Uriah Hall does, he does that every now and then, you get these bursts of that next level shit. | ||
You get these bursts of that Ron Stallings right hand, the wheel kick that he knocked that kid out on tough. | ||
And again, he's not fighting the highest level of competition when he's pulling these techniques off, but they're there. | ||
They're there. | ||
They're there, but he just hasn't done it, like you said, against a high-level guy. | ||
Now, when he starts pulling that shit, like, if he pulled that shit off tonight against Musashi, like, Musashi's kind of seen this, man. | ||
Right. | ||
He's beat Jacare. | ||
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Right. | |
Like, he's beat some good, good dudes. | ||
He certainly has. | ||
He certainly has. | ||
And with Musashi, he just, I don't know what it is. | ||
He's just fucking good, man. | ||
I'll take Musashi. | ||
His mind. | ||
Bro, isn't Uriah Hall a 10th Planet guy? | ||
Not Uriah Hall. | ||
He's not? | ||
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No, no. | |
OSP is. | ||
OSP is. | ||
That's right. | ||
You know what? | ||
We already got a double or nothing. | ||
I owe him $1,000 from the last fight. | ||
Yes, you do. | ||
And we're double. | ||
Are we just going to have a running tab? | ||
Yeah. | ||
Double or nothing. | ||
That'll make everybody feel better. | ||
This way, nobody ever has to really, like, get hurt and pay someone $1,000. | ||
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What? | |
We'll just keep it crazy. | ||
Well, then you've got to suck his dick or something. | ||
I mean, we have to work something out. | ||
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I go from. | |
For $100,000? | ||
For $100,000? | ||
If you would just clean my bed out? | ||
I'm not saying I would do it. | ||
But I'm not saying I won't, either. | ||
You'd have to sit down with your friends. | ||
I'd have to talk to my wife about it. | ||
I'll take a hundred G, son. | ||
Imagine how gay Brendan would have to be to let you suck his dick for $100,000. | ||
He'd have to agree. | ||
Instead of $100,000. | ||
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Meanwhile, really, you'd probably have to pay him to suck his dick for $100,000. | |
He wouldn't do it. | ||
For being gay, he would do it to get the fucking pictures, man. | ||
Me with a dick in my mouth. | ||
That's not good for anybody, bro. | ||
In this day and age, those pictures are already out there. | ||
We was photoshopped today. | ||
Are you guys talking me to get my dick sucked? | ||
No, that's how we do it. | ||
We do it slow. | ||
We make it normal. | ||
Nah, but you'd be open to it, right? | ||
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Nah, that's not a big deal. | |
I bet if anybody knows how to suck your dick right, it's a girl. | ||
Has anybody ever photoshopped your face, Joe, like really, really good on some dude blowing another dude? | ||
Oh, for sure. | ||
It's the golden rule of the internet. | ||
If there's a picture of you out there, someone somewhere has photoshopped a dick in your mouth. | ||
I haven't seen the golden rule. | ||
Otherwise, you ain't doing shit. | ||
I've seen a ton of them on my own website. | ||
On the forums on my website. | ||
Nice. | ||
This dude named Floppo from England. | ||
He probably did a hundred of them. | ||
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Floppo? | |
Floppo? | ||
Floppo was just jacking off to those. | ||
Dude, it was hilarious. | ||
He would have the most hilarious photoshops. | ||
Oh my god, and with me, they always involved like a hundred black dicks. | ||
Like, I'd have 50 arms and shit. | ||
It was ridiculous. | ||
They were funny as hell, man. | ||
His, he's always done it with a funny sense of humor, but some people can do it and they can get it so close. | ||
Girls get really mad because famous actresses have been in porn scenes. | ||
They just put their body and they morph a girl's body. | ||
Yeah, they're so good. | ||
We do anything now with that stuff. | ||
With photo editing, they could literally have you wrestling a dinosaur. | ||
All they need is your face. | ||
Anything. | ||
The chick from Game of Thrones, when they made her walk through the city naked, turns out it wasn't her body, right? | ||
Wow, is that true? | ||
That's what Bretman said. | ||
I don't know if that's true. | ||
Well, he would probably know. | ||
I think it is true. | ||
Remember that scene? | ||
I mean, it makes sense. | ||
I don't watch that shit. | ||
If I was that chick, I would probably be like, look, you can make a dragon. | ||
You can't give me fake tits. | ||
I agree. | ||
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I agree. | |
Why do you have to see my real tits? | ||
That's creepy. | ||
I don't want you guys staring at my asshole as I walk down the street. | ||
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Asshole! | |
Because she was totally naked, and you got like 100, 200 people that are working as extras that are the slaves and the peasant people, so they're all going to see her naked too? | ||
That's not fun. | ||
You're not going to see her asshole, though, unless she's, like, bear crawling through the city. | ||
I've been naked in a couple things. | ||
I was naked in this thing that I did for news radio once. | ||
I had to be naked in front of... | ||
The whole idea was, like, I was waiting for this chick in her apartment, and I was trying to... | ||
I forget the whole premise. | ||
I guess I was trying to get her to date me or something like that. | ||
So I lit a bunch of candles and I took my clothes off. | ||
Do they pay extra for that or no? | ||
No, I don't think so. | ||
Do you have something over your junk or no? | ||
No, my dick was hanging out. | ||
And when she came in, I covered it up. | ||
I had to cover it up. | ||
Like that was the scene in the movie. | ||
Like, whoa, it's you. | ||
I forget the premise. | ||
It was on news radio. | ||
It was a long time ago. | ||
It was uncomfortable for sure. | ||
Yeah, and then there was another one that I did for the VH1 Fashion Awards. | ||
It was like 1997. I did this thing where I played this photographer that was crazy. | ||
And I didn't know anything about photography. | ||
I was just in it to try to get laid. | ||
That was the whole thing. | ||
And I would say to the girl, do you have any problems with nudity? | ||
And she goes, no. | ||
And next thing you know, I'm taking pictures of her while I'm naked. | ||
So I had to be naked in front of her. | ||
She was European. | ||
She didn't give a fuck. | ||
That was back in the day. | ||
Back in the day, dude. | ||
In 97. I was in line behind Tony D'Souza. | ||
Remember that guy? | ||
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Yeah. | |
Remember Tony? | ||
That guy's a wild man from Peru. | ||
Really good at Jiu Jitsu and everything. | ||
Peruvian necktie. | ||
Exactly. | ||
He did 2003 Abu Dhabi, and when we were weighing in, I killed myself to get down to 145, and I'm in line, and he's in front of me, and we both got our underwear on. | ||
You see the Japanese press right there. | ||
You see Brazilian press. | ||
Hoyla Gracie's sitting down right there. | ||
I'm waiting to weigh in. | ||
Tony goes first. | ||
He drops his underwear, gets naked. | ||
No one says shit. | ||
He gets naked, he weighs in, he makes weight. | ||
And then I come in and I was so close, I go, I guess it's cool to get naked. | ||
I pulled down my underwear. | ||
I pulled down my underwear. | ||
And the Japanese press come up quick and start taking pictures. | ||
Of your dick. | ||
Of me naked, standing there naked. | ||
So I started doing kung fu poses and like, Most muscular poses. | ||
And then I did one pose. | ||
Then I went like this. | ||
Then I did the opposite of the Incredible Hulk. | ||
I got all submissive and just covered my balls like I was really shy. | ||
That's the picture they use. | ||
They put that shit in Gong Magazine. | ||
I'm like this. | ||
I remember that, dude. | ||
Joe, is there anything they could pay you now to do that? | ||
To get naked and film some shit on TV? It's not that big a deal. | ||
It's not that big a deal. | ||
What's the big deal? | ||
Someone sees your dick? | ||
We're so crazy about our bodies. | ||
No, I get it. | ||
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No, I get it. | |
But if someone was like, yo, Joe, MTV Music Awards, we want you to be butt-ass naked on stage. | ||
No, I don't think that would be something I'd be into doing. | ||
You're past that. | ||
It seems very embarrassing. | ||
But the idea behind it is that there's something wrong with you being naked. | ||
You know, like, that we don't know, that we all... | ||
I mean, look at these crowd of people, right? | ||
You watch these two dudes fight. | ||
We don't even know who they are. | ||
You watch these two... | ||
This is a good scrap, actually. | ||
Yeah, it is. | ||
Homeboy just got dropped. | ||
Look at all those people in the audience, and you'll notice they all have clothes on. | ||
I mean, it's kind of ridiculous. | ||
Clothes are kind of ridiculous. | ||
You just want everyone to be naked. | ||
No, but this idea that we've created this outerwear, like some sort of a fucking weird homemade hermit crab thing. | ||
Yeah. | ||
We've created this outer shell that we must have on, except in the most intimate moments. | ||
I mean, there's something almost... | ||
There's almost something where the human race realized how sexual and fucking crazy it is and like, look, the only way we're going to get anything done is if we invent clothes. | ||
Cover shit up. | ||
We just can't have people just fucking every time they run into each other. | ||
It started with jealous husbands at first. | ||
Jealous husbands just cover up their chicks. | ||
That makes sense. | ||
Well, if you look at the oldest civilizations on Earth, it's the Middle East, right? | ||
And aren't those the ones who cover their women up the most? | ||
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No. | |
They're the smartest. | ||
They're like this. | ||
They can't see shit. | ||
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They're like this. | |
Do they ever have to deal with jealousy or possessiveness? | ||
I don't want that. | ||
Oh, man. | ||
That's genius. | ||
Those guys have like 50 billion dollars. | ||
Like, you know, that's the least they could do. | ||
You don't know what you're getting though, you know what I'm saying? | ||
It's like a cracker bat, John. | ||
You know what I'm saying? | ||
There was like a sounding royalty guy that was arrested in LA for sexual assault. | ||
Some woman came screaming out of his place. | ||
She was like half naked or something like that. | ||
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Really? | |
Yeah, he was arrested and he doesn't have immunity. | ||
And it's one of a series of events that have happened with really rich people from the Middle East in Beverly Hills over the last couple of weeks. | ||
Because the other one that happened was there was a race. | ||
I don't know if I talked about it with you. | ||
Not with me. | ||
We went to Disneyland. | ||
They have this thing called Saudi Summer. | ||
And in the summer in Saudi Arabia, apparently it's un-fucking-godly hot. | ||
So a lot of people come over from Saudi Arabia To L.A., and they buy these crazy houses in Beverly Hills, and they bring over these cars, these multi-million dollar cars, like a Bugatti Veyron, like a one and a half million dollar car, and they have Arab license plates on them. | ||
They don't even have, like, it's not even a registered car in America. | ||
But they bring them over here and they're allowed to drive them around and so they're driving these cars around and they're racing through the streets of Beverly Hills and they get video of it. | ||
People get video of these people in million dollar cars running red lights. | ||
This guy in a Porsche GT3 is chasing them, runs a red light or runs a stop sign. | ||
It's fucking crazy to watch. | ||
So they're just wiling out out here. | ||
There's other people at the intersection. | ||
These guys are flying through the stop sign with a Porsche. | ||
Jesus. | ||
In Beverly Hills. | ||
Yeah. | ||
And so, as the car's pulling in, the Ferrari's smoking, and all these people are taking videos on them. | ||
The whole neighborhood is out. | ||
And they all have their iPhones. | ||
They're videotaping it in the street. | ||
So that happens. | ||
And then right after that happens, this incident happens. | ||
And apparently a lot of these people, they're asking for diplomatic immunity because they're rich. | ||
Hey, man. | ||
But isn't that amazing? | ||
Yeah, I can't do that. | ||
Well, this is what they're saying. | ||
Some of these people that do things like that over here, you can't prosecute them because they have something called diplomatic immunity. | ||
That's insane. | ||
What does that mean? | ||
You know what it probably means? | ||
Is to have a lot of dirt on the people running shit. | ||
We're going to come over and do whatever the fuck we want to do, or we're going to talk. | ||
And more importantly, they make a fuckload of money. | ||
Shitload of money, yeah. | ||
Every day, all day, every day. | ||
Dude, look at this. | ||
Yeah, watch this. | ||
The yellow car. | ||
Now watch the Porsche. | ||
Look at this. | ||
The guy doesn't even stop. | ||
There's cars to the left and to the right. | ||
That guy just blows through this neighborhood. | ||
Hey man, not the Middle East. | ||
Can't do that here. | ||
Well, see, look at all these people in the street and they're filming the Ferrari. | ||
That's like a million dollar car. | ||
That's ridiculous. | ||
Yeah, I think that's a LaFerrari. | ||
I think that's a million-dollar car plus. | ||
It might even be more than a million dollars. | ||
Oh, is that GT3? There's the Bugatti. | ||
There's the Bugatti Veyron. | ||
I mean, these guys have insane amounts of money, and they're buying up giant houses in Beverly Hills. | ||
What did Homeboy do with the girl, though, to get in trouble? | ||
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I bet they do some nasty shit with that cash. | |
I don't know. | ||
I don't know. | ||
I don't know what happened, but I know he got arrested. | ||
I have no idea what the actual reality of the case is, but I know the dude got arrested. | ||
Crazy, right? | ||
You guys watching Narcos? | ||
I heard it's the shit. | ||
It makes Game of Thrones look like Harry Potter. | ||
Dude, I keep hearing. | ||
And it's true. | ||
It's so good. | ||
I'm scared to get into it. | ||
It's just ten episodes. | ||
I can't do it. | ||
I knocked out ten in two days. | ||
Damn. | ||
Are you done with it yet? | ||
Yeah, I just finished this week. | ||
Meanwhile, I'm stuck on a bad show right now. | ||
Empire. | ||
No, the strain. | ||
Is Empire bad? | ||
I heard it's good. | ||
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You know what? | |
It's good. | ||
The first season was good. | ||
If you don't have anything else to watch, it's good. | ||
Fuck that. | ||
No, if there's nothing else going on, it's better than watching whatever's on at two in the morning on regular TV. But, man, season two just started. | ||
I just watched the season premiere yesterday. | ||
Whoa. | ||
Dude, Kenny Rogers is finally looking like Kenny Rogers again. | ||
They reversed some of that crazy facial surgery that they did on him. | ||
That was some sad shit, dude. | ||
He looked like von der Le Silva? | ||
Dude, no. | ||
It didn't look anything like him. | ||
They pulled his face way, way, way too tight. | ||
Girls do that, too. | ||
Well, they go to a bad doctor. | ||
I mean, apparently if you go to a good doctor that knows what they're doing, they can tighten you up and it looks pretty good. | ||
I feel like they all look the same. | ||
They all look the exact same. | ||
I think the ones that we're recognizing are the ones that are terrible. | ||
I think that's why we say they all look the same. | ||
I think there's some attractive older women that have had like little nips and tucks. | ||
You know, but I think when we see something like Kenny Rogers, you know, there's something hideous about it, right? | ||
Someone chose to squeeze their face tight to erase some of the lines. | ||
That's a bummer, man. | ||
You know, I mean, it sucks, too, because, yeah, because especially that guy, who's like this beloved character, you know, the whole The Gambler series. | ||
Oh, sweet left hand! | ||
Oh, fuck sakes! | ||
But don't you think those guys, like those celebrities, like they're so used to people seeing them for that so they don't want to ever let it go? | ||
You know what I'm saying? | ||
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Yes. | |
Oh, I'm sorry. | ||
We never sync this fucking show up. | ||
We never do. | ||
And I don't... | ||
Jamie, pull up on the screen who these guys are. | ||
Because this is a wild fight. | ||
These guys need credit. | ||
Really good fight. | ||
The dude who stands southpaw, the guy in the red with white, he's got a nasty left hand. | ||
They're eating shots. | ||
And these guys are tired, too. | ||
They're in the third round here. | ||
Are they from, like, tough Japan or some shit with those bullshit shorts? | ||
I didn't bring my laptop today. | ||
A full short says, UFC road to Japan. | ||
What is that? | ||
It has to be some sort of... | ||
Oh, this is like the... | ||
Oh my god, they're eating shots. | ||
So here's the gentleman's name. | ||
How do you say that? | ||
Mizuto Horata. | ||
Mizuto Horata and Teruto Ishihara. | ||
Ishihara is the guy with the crazy hair. | ||
Didn't they have like a weird mock tough where Barnett and Nelson were the coach or some shit? | ||
Did they? | ||
And there was like... | ||
I'm so out of the loop. | ||
It was like on UFC Fight Pass. | ||
Some shit like that. | ||
Like the countdown to Japan. | ||
There's almost too many fighters to pay attention to. | ||
Oh, for sure. | ||
They're at number... | ||
Oh, shit. | ||
Comeback. | ||
Hirota. | ||
Oh, Sweet Right Hand by Hirota. | ||
Oh my goodness. | ||
That dude took a lot of shots, too. | ||
Dude, have you seen the Japanese ring card girl? | ||
Very pretty. | ||
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What? | |
What an adorable young lady. | ||
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What? | |
Good for her. | ||
I'm a fan of, of course, the American ones. | ||
Very beautiful. | ||
She might went to number one. | ||
Really? | ||
The Japanese one? | ||
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She's got booty? | |
Wait till you see this creature. | ||
Let me ask you this about when it comes to girls' bodies. | ||
Do you prefer... | ||
10 pounds overweight or 10 pounds underweight? | ||
Ooh, 10 pounds over. | ||
Every time, right? | ||
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Every time. | |
Hey, women, listen up. | ||
10 pounds over. | ||
Little fat ain't gonna hurt nobody. | ||
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Little belly roll gives you a little extra juicy ass. | |
No one wants a bag of bones in the bed. | ||
The only reason they want to be skinny is for other girls. | ||
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. | ||
When you see those girls walking around the ring, they want to be as skinny as possible. | ||
In this culture, in our culture. | ||
In Brazil, they're not like that, man. | ||
Those girls are thick. | ||
But they have flat stomachs. | ||
Yes, yes. | ||
That's the difference. | ||
They're in very good shape. | ||
The girls are in very good shape. | ||
Well, they're all in very good shape, but there's just so much worry about putting a little weight on. | ||
Anybody, like, a girl that has, like, a little, like, an extra 10 pounds, that's not foreign. | ||
Yeah, if I'm managing the ring car girls, they're fucking eating Mickey D's. | ||
You know what I'm saying? | ||
At night. | ||
They don't know that, though. | ||
I know. | ||
Don't you think that they think that they're... | ||
No, all they do is drink fucking coffee and water and, like, ice cubes for dinner. | ||
That's all they fucking do. | ||
Especially a few days before. | ||
100%, yeah. | ||
Nah, nah, nah. | ||
Get that full rack of ribs, girl. | ||
That's crazy, right? | ||
It's crazy. | ||
It is weird. | ||
It's a weird thing because every guy I talk to almost universally has the same opinion. | ||
Like a little bit of body weight on a girl doesn't bother you at all. | ||
Dude, you're not my friend if you like skinny bitches. | ||
Lose my number. | ||
Lose my number, man. | ||
If you like fucking skinny girls, no way. | ||
There's nothing wrong with liking skinny girls. | ||
I mean, some skinny girls are hot as fuck. | ||
Some girls are just sexy, right? | ||
I agree. | ||
There's those girls. | ||
But the point, but no one, they don't look hot if they look like they're hungry. | ||
You know? | ||
You're not supposed to look hungry. | ||
I don't want you to be all nervous. | ||
Me neither, because I'm going to be nervous. | ||
Because I'm going to be nervous. | ||
I'm going to feed this poor kid. | ||
Jesus Christ. | ||
Just rice at the crib all the time when you come over? | ||
But that idea that these poor models have that they have to be these coat racks. | ||
Like, shit, that's crazy. | ||
That doesn't even make sense. | ||
Well, it's like guys want to be real big. | ||
Most girls aren't any big muscular dudes. | ||
Just other dudes are. | ||
You know what I'm saying? | ||
There's guys out there that look at a girl and go, oh my god, she has an amazing body and she's really skinny and has big tits. | ||
They like the big tits and no ass. | ||
There's guys out there like that. | ||
There's a balance thing that I think people recognize. | ||
And there's one thing that a lot of big weightlifter dudes do is if no one's coaching them, they'll get out of fucking balance. | ||
Where they go way titty heavy and way bicep heavy. | ||
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Titty heavy. | |
Right? | ||
Then they got these skinny ass necks, and you're like, dude, I know if the weight goes weird on you, you can't handle it. | ||
Look at that skinny neck you have. | ||
What is holding you together? | ||
Like, your pillar. | ||
The whole column in the center is made out of dog shit. | ||
Like, you can't do that. | ||
You can't have giant biceps and a little skinny neck. | ||
It's just crazy. | ||
Like, those guys that compete in the Olympia, Phil Heath is my boy, but none of those guys are ladies, man. | ||
You know what I'm saying? | ||
Like, they don't have all these groupies. | ||
They're so jacked. | ||
They're so jacked, I bet you have to be one of those freaky bodybuilder chicks to be into that. | ||
For sure. | ||
Or just be a girl. | ||
There's girls that are freaks, right? | ||
They're freaks, but people like different shows. | ||
There's girls that are bodybuilder type chicks, but they're just not that big. | ||
They just started, they're like a year and a half into it, where it's perfect. | ||
Yeah, it looks like they're in great shape. | ||
They're probably going to get too big in a couple years, but they're like white belts of bodybuilding. | ||
If a girl has shoulders, man, if she has like big shoulders, I can't do it. | ||
I can't fucking do it. | ||
You know, I have a theory about like why a girl wouldn't be into a big bodybuilder dude, like that type of a thing. | ||
It wouldn't be bigger is better. | ||
Because I think, like, evolutionarily, like in the girl's DNA, she wants a man that can survive. | ||
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Yeah. | |
And I think, and everybody knows that a guy like that, like, there's so much maintenance involved, first of all, in staying that big. | ||
It's so preposterous. | ||
It's so unnatural. | ||
And how many flights of stairs can that guy go up before his heart explodes? | ||
Super fucked. | ||
You mean, for a regular person, like, built like Echebra, built like us, a regular athletic guy, in the gym, you know, I do a few things. | ||
These guys don't have, there's nothing in comparison to the demands that those fucking bodies have. | ||
Not to mention these bitches are eating fucking chicken breast and asparagus every other day. | ||
Every other hour and just sweating. | ||
And sweating. | ||
Sweating. | ||
Sweating. | ||
And have no body fat. | ||
Like they're literally close to blacking out every time they stand up. | ||
When those guys get down to that shred. | ||
Oh, dude. | ||
Their ass cheeks have like fucking rubber tire effect. | ||
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Shredded ass. | |
Ridiculous. | ||
You know when girls cross that threshold of... | ||
Their asses and hips start, they lift so much that it's almost like a guy's muscular ass. | ||
You know what I'm talking about? | ||
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Been there, my man. | |
It's a muscular ass! | ||
Been there, my man. | ||
It's a muscular ass! | ||
It's round as fuck from the profile. | ||
It looks fucking amazing. | ||
But when you look at it straight back, you're like, she's walking like a dude. | ||
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Right? | |
There's too much lower back. | ||
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Or for having sex, like, this looks like Shane Carwin. | |
Straight on. | ||
That's hilarious. | ||
Did I ever tell you about this big 230-pound dude just punked me in front of a girl before? | ||
Oh, no. | ||
My aunt hooked me up with this chick. | ||
She used to always try to hook me up with chicks, and she's like, I got a new one for you. | ||
She works with me. | ||
Her name is Dawn, and we're gonna go out. | ||
So I went out with Dawn and my aunt. | ||
We went to go meet... | ||
A guy that my aunt was seeing, but he brings this giant 230-pound linebacker. | ||
And so it's three dudes and two chicks. | ||
I'm like, there's a little problem. | ||
We're at Bennigan's. | ||
And she wasn't drinking, so I'm thinking, this is probably not going to happen tonight. | ||
So we got to go on the dance floor, and this girl's a freak. | ||
Zero alcohol. | ||
She's a freak. | ||
She's all over me, making out with me. | ||
I'm like, oh, I got this one. | ||
That was in the bag. | ||
We take a break. | ||
We take a break. | ||
Linebacker comes up and asks her to dance. | ||
He's on the dance floor making out. | ||
They're looking at me, giving me this evil look. | ||
I'm like, oh, man. | ||
This guy's totally dominating me, punking me, jungle-like, right there in front of my aunt and this girl. | ||
He's all over Don now, and he owns this girl. | ||
The club's over. | ||
The lights turn on. | ||
The lights turn on, and he's looking at me, and he's leaning against us. | ||
We're trying to figure out what we're going to do, and he's holding our lights, and he goes, where you at? | ||
Where you at? | ||
Oh my goodness. | ||
And I'm like, man, I'm right here doing nothing. | ||
Just shriveling up. | ||
It turned into like a nightmare night. | ||
So it's this 1991. There's no cell phones. | ||
So the plan was to meet at my aunt's house, right? | ||
I'm like, okay. | ||
I drove with them. | ||
I go, give me the keys. | ||
You guys drank too much. | ||
These guys have to follow us to my aunt's house. | ||
Watch this. | ||
It was a little Honda Prelude. | ||
I'm on the freeway. | ||
My aunt's going, you're going to lose them. | ||
You're going to lose them. | ||
I'm like, no, I'm not. | ||
They're right behind me. | ||
Lost them. | ||
Got back home. | ||
My aunt's on the phone trying to figure, you know, because you got to go to a pay phone to get, then call the house. | ||
That can take 30 minutes. | ||
Wow. | ||
Yeah, so I lost them on purpose. | ||
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That's hilarious. | |
I think you lost trying to pick up a girl with your aunt and then going to Bennigan's. | ||
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Those are perfect choices. | |
Perfect choices if it works out. | ||
If it works out, if at the end of the story, he has the best sex ever. | ||
He and the girl, they smoke a little weed and have the best sex of all time. | ||
No, it wasn't like that. | ||
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But if the end of the story was that, I had sex with her for 30 seconds. | |
For 30 seconds. | ||
You did? | ||
I wanted to get revenge on her. | ||
Oh, after all this? | ||
No, I didn't finish it. | ||
We get to my aunt's house. | ||
I take her right back to the... | ||
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I had no idea. | |
I know I had 20, 30 minutes before they were going to figure out where the hell she lived. | ||
I lost her on purpose. | ||
Right, right, right. | ||
So I'm going to get a little revenge here. | ||
So she was all over me. | ||
She was just a wild girl. | ||
Had sex with her for 30 seconds, and as soon as I was done, she had just begun. | ||
I said, I got to move my car really quick. | ||
I'm going to get a ticket. | ||
I'll be right back. | ||
So I got in my car. | ||
I was gone. | ||
Never heard from her ever again. | ||
I've never met a hot Don. | ||
Oh, I knew a hot Dawn. | ||
Really? | ||
Oh, yeah. | ||
What was her full name, though? | ||
Donna? | ||
No, I don't remember. | ||
It was just Dawn. | ||
She was hot as fuck. | ||
She was way too smart. | ||
Damn. | ||
I was way too stupid at the time. | ||
I was like 21, and she was at least my age, maybe a year older. | ||
She used to work for this comedy club that I worked at. | ||
She graduated from Harvard with a degree in women's studies. | ||
Jesus. | ||
Yeah, we had terrifying conversations. | ||
I bet. | ||
She's way too smart. | ||
Dawn's not fucking around. | ||
At the time, I knew it, too. | ||
Never even tried to hit on her. | ||
Never tried to pick her up. | ||
You're intimidated by the brain. | ||
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. | ||
She was hot, too. | ||
Yeah, I just wasn't ready for that. | ||
Damn, our boy Kakuno back at it. | ||
Kakuno and Diego Brandao. | ||
Was his last fight Tony Ferguson? | ||
I think it was. | ||
We got Merck. | ||
Goddamn Tony Ferguson's scary. | ||
Tony Ferguson is just... | ||
He's capable of fighting 100% of his ability when he gets in there. | ||
Ooh, he has a tough fight next, though. | ||
He's got a very tough fight. | ||
But Tony Ferguson does not fold up shop. | ||
He's like as steady as a rock. | ||
He's so game. | ||
He's so game. | ||
I haven't seen a guy game like him since Ray Diaz. | ||
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Oh, he's scary. | |
Since Nick Diaz. | ||
Yeah, it's insane. | ||
He's scary. | ||
Tony Ferguson's scary. | ||
His work ethic is incredible. | ||
You can tell. | ||
You can tell. | ||
For sure, he gets better every fight. | ||
But this next one's a real... | ||
I mean, this is where we decide where he's gonna go. | ||
100%. | ||
He wins this one, off to the races. | ||
Habib Nurmagomedov, for people who don't know what the fight is. | ||
Habib Nurmagomedov is undefeated. | ||
He's a former world Sambo champion. | ||
He's one of the best grapplers in MMA. He's a fucking octopus. | ||
And he beat the champ already, Dos Anjos. | ||
He's beaten Dos Anjos and he ragdolled him. | ||
He ragdolled Dos Anjos, especially in the second and third round. | ||
He starts breaking guys with his pressure. | ||
His fucking takedowns are nasty. | ||
His ground and pound is nasty. | ||
He's so dominant in grappling. | ||
But he's coming off that injury. | ||
A long layoff. | ||
So if there's any time to catch him, it's now. | ||
And who knows how much damage he had done to his knee because there was more than one injury. | ||
There were several injuries. | ||
It wasn't just like, hurt it, got it repaired, did the proper due diligence, and then came back. | ||
There was another injury, I believe, during rehab, right? | ||
So he hurt it, had surgery, went to rehab, did all that, got better, hurt it again. | ||
Yeah, see? | ||
So we're dealing with a real problem here. | ||
And it also could be one of the reasons why he's so fucking good. | ||
He's so good because he's this relentless, ferocious bulldog dude. | ||
You know what I mean? | ||
That motherfucker doesn't take a step back. | ||
He attacks! | ||
That's all those boys at AKA though. | ||
Yeah, well you're right. | ||
Think about it. | ||
Particularly him, especially with the grappling. | ||
Kane too though. | ||
Kane's got like that too, yeah. | ||
But look at his injuries. | ||
Both knees and look at DC. DC had a knee injury. | ||
But that's, you know what man, it's like, don't, isn't that like a part of that package? | ||
Like a part of that package is your red line in your body. | ||
That's what comes with the territory, right? | ||
You're gonna break some shit. | ||
I sparred DC one time, I was like, what the fuck? | ||
What the fuck are we doing here? | ||
It's pressure, huh? | ||
Just coming. | ||
Every round. | ||
How many want to go? | ||
Shop eight? | ||
Nah, man. | ||
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I'm cool. | |
He just keeps coming. | ||
Keeps coming. | ||
I've never seen anything like it. | ||
That's what happens when you work with Kane. | ||
Him and Kane both feed off each other. | ||
And I think that was a huge contributing factor to who he is right now. | ||
Oh, I agree 100%. | ||
You get that Olympic drive, and then those two get together? | ||
Both of them together. | ||
What? | ||
Just fucking sharpening each other. | ||
And he toss Rockhold into the mix? | ||
Oh, yeah. | ||
Fuck, man. | ||
And a bunch of other guys there now, too. | ||
A ton of other guys. | ||
A bunch of other guys there now. | ||
But Rockhold, right now, on fire. | ||
That's a big fight, that fucking December fight. | ||
I think it's the best fight in middleweight history. | ||
Yeah, I think you're right. | ||
I think you're right. | ||
I think other than the Vanderlei, not Vanderlei, other than the Anderson-Weidman, the first fight, before Weidman knocked him out, but before that fight, that was the biggest fight in history. | ||
Because Weidman was a crusher. | ||
We knew Weidman was a crusher. | ||
We saw what Weidman did to Munoz. | ||
We saw this dude who just looks unstoppable. | ||
He's just tough as shit. | ||
Super solid wrestler, knockout power. | ||
And then Anderson was the motherfucker. | ||
And before that fight, that was the biggest fight. | ||
But somewhere before that, when he got in, I feel like we've seen the best of Anderson. | ||
We didn't know that, though. | ||
The fight before that was the Bonner fight, man. | ||
The fight before, but he looked like he was in the Matrix. | ||
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Joe, look at me. | |
Joe. | ||
No, you know. | ||
I know, it's Bonner, though. | ||
You're right, you're right. | ||
Bonner's not at the same level, but the way he won was so shocking. | ||
It was insane, I agree. | ||
That everybody was terrified of him after that. | ||
And Bonner's on some shit. | ||
And he was on some shit. | ||
And then before that he had destroyed Chael, the Vitor front kick. | ||
I mean look, Anderson hadn't even been in trouble except for the Chael fight and everybody knew he came into that fight with injured ribs. | ||
Pretty much after the fight everybody knew, right? | ||
True. | ||
I just feel like, I feel like Weidman's beating dudes in their prime right now. | ||
Rockhold's beating dudes in their prime. | ||
You're talking about fucking monsters. | ||
And now these two meet, they're both young in their prime. | ||
But before Weidman and Anderson fought, Weidman, or Anderson rather, was considered the greatest pound for pound fighter ever. | ||
I agree. | ||
I just think at some point, maybe it was that fight, maybe it was in camp, he lost that edge. | ||
You know what I'm saying? | ||
It could have been that he lost that edge, or it could be Weidman's just that motherfucker. | ||
He's just that good. | ||
He could be that motherfucker. | ||
But before that fight, I think that was the biggest fight of all time. | ||
And I think it still holds up. | ||
I think this is right up there with that. | ||
I just feel like style-wise, Rockhold, Weidman's a better style matchup. | ||
Like, Weidman... | ||
I don't know, man. | ||
I do. | ||
I thought Anderson-Weidman was an amazing style matchup. | ||
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I didn't. | |
Because I was like, how is Weidman going to deal with him on the feet? | ||
You know what? | ||
Because I was going off Chael and Anderson, and Chael could kind of do whatever he wanted. | ||
Kept taking him down, kept taking him down, right? | ||
That first fight. | ||
First fight. | ||
And kind of basically beat him, then ended up fucking up at the very end, getting caught in that triangle. | ||
Right. | ||
I feel like Weidman's a better striker than Chael, better wrestler. | ||
So I feel like you put those together, if he wanted to, he could make it a boring fight and win that fight every time. | ||
You got a good point, especially about Wyman's submission ability. | ||
Ooh, he's nasty. | ||
His submission ability is definitely better. | ||
Chael's is underrated. | ||
I mean, Chael did submit Shogun. | ||
He caught him in that guillotine. | ||
I don't think anyone expected that. | ||
Chael can submit, guys. | ||
Who did he arm triangle? | ||
Did he arm triangle Stan? | ||
Stan. | ||
He's a motherfucker, man. | ||
He's a strong, powerful wrestler. | ||
You know, Chael's had inconsistent performances, but when he was at his best, like in that Anderson fight especially, dude, how about the Marquardt fight? | ||
He's fucking nasty. | ||
I mean, Chael Sonnen can fight his dick off. | ||
I agree. | ||
Chael's as tough as they come. | ||
I love Chael. | ||
Weidman is a really good wrestler, but I think Chael, at his best, he showed the same level of wrestling ability. | ||
But as far as a mixed martial artist, as a mixed martial artist, Chris Weidman's striking is nasty. | ||
Much more dangerous with his power. | ||
Like, did you see the Ryan Hall fight? | ||
Did you see that fight? | ||
Yes, back in the day. | ||
Nasty. | ||
In the same left hook, the same left hook. | ||
Chael's never been like a really good striker. | ||
No, not nearly like that. | ||
But Weidman can put it together. | ||
Chael looked good. | ||
He looked good in the Anderson fight, the first round when he caught Anderson with a straight left. | ||
True, he did. | ||
He came out striking, yeah. | ||
But the difference, I think, is that Wyman is a crusher. | ||
He crushes guys. | ||
And he has you hurt, he turns into a fucking monster. | ||
And he turns it on and smashes you. | ||
You know, you saw that in the first Uriah Hall fight. | ||
You've seen it in a bunch of the fucking... | ||
The Munoz fight was one of the most terrifying. | ||
That elbow? | ||
Fuck, man. | ||
I think Wyman Rockhold is definitely a fight for the ages. | ||
But I'm as excited about that as I was the Anderson-Wyman fight. | ||
For some reason, I'm more excited about it. | ||
I couldn't get any more. | ||
I mean, both of those fights, to me, that's like the top of the heap. | ||
I agree. | ||
I see that. | ||
But you know what I'm saying? | ||
I don't think this is the biggest one ever. | ||
I think they're both like the same level of huge. | ||
I think the Anderson-Weidman fight is just as big as this. | ||
This is this, you know, that fight was a crazy fight. | ||
And the way it ended with Anderson clowning him and Weidman catching him with that left hook. | ||
I mean, while it was happening, I could not fucking believe my eyes. | ||
I think it kind of fucked Weidman because no one took him serious, and then they fight the rematch, then fucking Anderson's leg falls off, right? | ||
And then we're like, fuck, man. | ||
But then Weidman finally kind of gets his credit when he fights Machida, right? | ||
And then he destroys Vitor. | ||
But he still, like, Weidman to me should be the biggest star in the UFC. All-American dude, beats the very best at 185. I don't give a fuck what division you want to talk about. | ||
185, he's American, he speaks well, he's super smart, right? | ||
He's a family guy. | ||
I don't know why he's not a bigger star. | ||
You got a really good point, man. | ||
That's a really good point. | ||
I mean, it's not like he doesn't have the ability. | ||
No, he's like fucking our Nolan Ryan. | ||
You know what I'm saying? | ||
You think it's because people just don't know? | ||
I don't know what it is. | ||
He's not a shit talker, right? | ||
He's not a big shit talker, but inside the hot gun, he is a motherfucker. | ||
Dude, he's got something. | ||
There's something about him that you can tell. | ||
When guys go eye to eye with him, they see it in him. | ||
It's weird. | ||
There's a few guys like that. | ||
When guys lock eyes with him, they see it in them. | ||
Yes. | ||
And he's one of those. | ||
And that's why the Anderson stare-down with him was so interesting. | ||
When Anderson got mouth-to-mouth with him, and Weidman looked at him and goes, I'm not afraid of you, dude. | ||
Yeah, man. | ||
But there was a reality to it. | ||
There was a reality to it that Anderson was like, oh, shit. | ||
He's in some shit. | ||
What have I done? | ||
You know Weidman wants to fight at, he wants to fight Jon Jones. | ||
Yeah. | ||
He wants to fight Jon Jones in Madison Square Garden. | ||
But it's still illegal, though. | ||
He 100% thinks he can beat him. | ||
Well, it's illegal, and Jon Jones has some shit going on right now. | ||
Well, I don't know what's going on with the Jon Jones situation, but... | ||
I know he comes fresh out of prison, beats the fuck out of anyone in the world. | ||
He might not have to go to prison. | ||
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What do you guys think about the... | |
I don't know what the rules are to you. | ||
I have no idea. | ||
I want to see him back, man. | ||
I just don't want him to keep repeating this kind of behavior. | ||
I think I like John. | ||
At his best, John's a fucking really interesting, intelligent guy with a crazy amount of stress, a crazy amount of responsibility. | ||
We don't have a fighter like him in the UFC right now. | ||
We just don't. | ||
Well, he's definitely different than everybody else. | ||
What about Nick Diaz? | ||
What do you guys feel about that? | ||
It's the worst travesty I've ever heard of. | ||
It's an ego thing. | ||
In any of the regulatory decisions that I've ever heard about. | ||
Isn't a senator getting involved as well today as any talking shit? | ||
They took his livelihood from him. | ||
Five years for Nick Diaz is over, man. | ||
Not only that, they did it based on one test that's not nearly as accurate as the other two tests. | ||
The other two tests which were run by the World Anti-Doping Agency, the ones that take blood. | ||
Those are way more accurate. | ||
And those, he passed two of them. | ||
He passed two of those blood tests. | ||
That's so fucked up. | ||
And then they take this urine test, and they run it through this laboratory, but urine is just not nearly as accurate. | ||
It's just not. | ||
So, them getting on him for that is fucking crazy. | ||
And then, you know, I think they were upset that he took the fifth. | ||
Okay, four minutes, 56 seconds right now in the Kakuno-Diego-Brandau fight. | ||
This is an interesting fight. | ||
Kakuno, if you've never seen him before, he's got a weird style. | ||
Oh! | ||
Brandau cracked him! | ||
A style that does not work, everybody. | ||
Well, Tony Ferguson lit him up. | ||
That style did not work with Tony. | ||
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Well, he's getting lit up right now. | |
Oh, shit, he got cracked again. | ||
Hey, for sure keep your hands up though, huh? | ||
Jesus. | ||
Diego's ragged on my big right hand. | ||
Oh, that fence. | ||
Diego's got him fucked up. | ||
That's it. | ||
Diego Brandow. | ||
Homeboy needs to change his style. | ||
Vicious stoppage. | ||
Good God. | ||
Vicious stoppage by Diego Brandow. | ||
That was like Tommy Hearns, Marvin Hagler and shit. | ||
Oh my God. | ||
Tommy Hearns, Marvin Hagler went a full round, believe it or not. | ||
Went into the second round when Hagler stopped him. | ||
God, that was an ass whooping. | ||
Jesus Christ. | ||
Maybe let's go back to the drawing board, huh? | ||
Put your hands up. | ||
Well, Kakuno, he used to have a lot of success with that. | ||
He has like a 45-degree front kick that he throws. | ||
Have you seen it? | ||
It's like a combination of a roundhouse kick and a front kick. | ||
It's real weird. | ||
And we hit guys right in the liver with it. | ||
And it's fucking nasty, man. | ||
Eddie, you've seen it before. | ||
You're the one who told me about it. | ||
You were the first one who told me about it. | ||
You're like, have you ever seen this guy in Japan? | ||
He's throwing this kick. | ||
You go, I don't think it's a roundhouse kick, but it ain't like a front kick. | ||
It's like something different. | ||
It's in between. | ||
He's throwing like a side snapping front snap kick with the balls of your feet to the liver. | ||
Not anymore. | ||
You know what? | ||
When you throw a round kick, when you throw a round kick and you hit with the shin, it's probably the most powerful way you can throw it because your foot doesn't give in. | ||
Like when you throw a kick with your foot, your foot kind of gives a little and you can hurt someone, but it's not nearly as effective with the ball of the foot as it is with the heel. | ||
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For sure. | |
The heel's way more effective, because the heel doesn't have any give. | ||
Like this, you can have a little bit of resistance because of your foot, and it's like hitting someone with a cushion behind it. | ||
But the way Kakuno was doing it, you could tell he had done it so many times, and his technique was so sharp, there was not much movement in his foot. | ||
And when he would pull his foot back, he would really dig the ball of the foot in there. | ||
It was like really high-level stuff. | ||
A lot of Kyokushin guys are really good at that. | ||
They develop that ability to throw those front snap kicks. | ||
The technique gets so sharp that at the end of it, they're so good at thrusting the ball of the foot in there. | ||
I think it's another one of those kicks, man, we're starting to see more of. | ||
Cowboy uses that a lot now. | ||
He used that on Jim Miller. | ||
He's throwing that front kick to the body. | ||
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It's a teep. | |
But it's the same thing. | ||
You're hitting the guy with the ball of the foot to the body. | ||
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Anderson did it. | |
Conor did it to Chad. | ||
Conor did it. | ||
Conor does it a lot. | ||
To the body, yeah. | ||
Anderson did it to the face. | ||
Yep. | ||
Anderson did it to the face. | ||
He was doing it to the liver. | ||
He was aiming just for the liver. | ||
But he hasn't done it in the UFC. He's done it a few times in Japan. | ||
And he's got some heavy hands, too. | ||
Yeah. | ||
He has a great combo where he'll open you up with the hands and then he'll just to land that thing and then vice versa. | ||
Well, he hit Tony in that fight. | ||
I mean, he definitely caught Tony with some good shots. | ||
Tony can take a punch too, man. | ||
I just think Tony hits even harder. | ||
Yeah, he might be the hardest hitter at that. | ||
He's ferocious. | ||
Tony Ferguson's ferocious. | ||
Hey, back to that Diaz thing though. | ||
What do they do? | ||
What can you do? | ||
I think they sue. | ||
I think they take it to court and I think they win easy. | ||
I don't think there's a problem with winning. | ||
I think if you look at the facts, the fact that he passed two water tests that are much more stringent, The fact that there's a threshold that they don't want you to be high while you're competing. | ||
I think that's reasonable. | ||
But the threshold is very low. | ||
The threshold is so high that you could have smoked pot a couple of days ago and you should pass, according to Jeff Nowitzki. | ||
And Jeff Nowitzki should know, right? | ||
So I think they're reasonable about it. | ||
I think what's unreasonable is they're not willing to take into consideration those other two tests. | ||
Like, if they looked at the chain of custody from the time the blood was drawn, it was all done to the water standard, which is, you know, world anti-doping, right? | ||
If it was done to that standard, they should accept that. | ||
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100%. | |
Those are better, more stringent tests. | ||
And in fact, they shouldn't even need to perform their own tests as long as there's no suspicion of corruption, there's no suspicion that someone's changing results or trying to protect a fighter. | ||
And the UFC doesn't do that. | ||
Look, if they did, I mean, look at all the fucking different people that have been popped. | ||
You know, they wouldn't want those guys pop. | ||
Although, did you hear the Belfort thing? | ||
Did you hear that thing? | ||
I was just gonna bring that up. | ||
What's the latest? | ||
No, you're right. | ||
I thought about it while I was saying it. | ||
But while you were saying it, I was like, well... | ||
When you're best friends with Lorenzo. | ||
Well, he had, apparently, they had accidentally sent out some results of one of Vitor's tests before he fought Jon Jones, and he had been flagged as having high testosterone. | ||
But I think this is while he had a testosterone exemption. | ||
So I think the issue is not that he used testosterone. | ||
I think he was allowed to then. | ||
That was back when the UFC was kind of involved in, you know, they were allowed to have testosterone use exemptions. | ||
TUEs. | ||
Correct. | ||
I don't think he was doing anything illegal. | ||
I think it was just high. | ||
So I think, like, they were talking about it in an article I read that the doctor would tell you, like, say if your upper threshold is like 1,200, which is apparently, like, really crazy, right? | ||
If the doctor saw that you were at 1,100 when they test you, they're like, look, you're a little high. | ||
Like, 10 above 10 is high, so we want you to drop your dose down a little bit. | ||
And that's what their explanation was. | ||
And do we know what Vitor was at? | ||
Well, I know at one point he was tested at 1475. Good God! | ||
Yeah, which is like, that's super silverback, werewolf, hyena dick. | ||
That's fucked up, man. | ||
That's dangerous as fuck. | ||
But people have tested real high before. | ||
I mean, Nate Marquardt was actually pulled out of a fight. | ||
Charlie Brenneman took his place last minute and won against Rick Story. | ||
Crazy fucking fight. | ||
Biggest fight of Charlie's career. | ||
And they pulled Nate out because of his results. | ||
He was that high. | ||
He was that high. | ||
Like, he had an exemption. | ||
Yeah. | ||
And they looked at his results, and they're like, what? | ||
What? | ||
What are you doing? | ||
And I know Nate... | ||
You know, I know Nate... | ||
Well, I know the... | ||
It's tough. | ||
It's tough. | ||
When fighters are relying on doctors, here's another issue. | ||
Yes, there you go. | ||
Could you tell him how much to take? | ||
The only one who knows how much he's going to take to put him in his legal limit is his doctor. | ||
Now, if his doctor gives him the same amount every week, and then he's giving it to him on a Monday, and Nate's getting tested on a Friday, he's had a chance for his levels to naturally go lower. | ||
There you go. | ||
But when a guy's about to fight, the doctor may likely say for best performance, like if you want to fight at your best, you should have it as high as possible. | ||
So take your injection right before you weigh in or something along those lines. | ||
And that way it'll be at its peak the next day. | ||
Or even if you're used to getting a shot on Monday and you're flying out to the fight on Tuesday and you do a day late can fuck with the results. | ||
You know what I'm saying? | ||
That Nate's not used to. | ||
Yeah, but the point is that when he was at the peak, whatever his peak was, if that was normal, that he was taken at that level, that's not even human. | ||
These are what you call hyperhuman levels, what doctors refer to as hyperhuman levels. | ||
You get to certain levels, like 1,500, 1,600. | ||
Jesus Christ, you go into those freak bodybuilder levels. | ||
What are they? | ||
Yeah, what are the bodybuilders at? | ||
Do we know? | ||
Those guys, they're not even human. | ||
They take so much growth. | ||
They're so ridiculously muscular and so just overwhelmingly cartoonishly powerful. | ||
Like you look at just striated. | ||
They get addicted to that, man. | ||
Dude, I look at those guys and I think, what's the end of the road like for those guys? | ||
Like how long can you run it? | ||
I think you just get fat after a while. | ||
No, no, look at... | ||
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You can't. | |
No, look at... | ||
What's his face? | ||
Homeboy from England. | ||
Dorian Yates is one of the best of all time. | ||
He's in his 50s now. | ||
He's fit, healthy. | ||
He looks thick. | ||
He's thick like you. | ||
He's not thick like freakish. | ||
He's thick like an athlete. | ||
He looks good, man. | ||
He's super open about it. | ||
Talks about all the shit he took. | ||
Talks about what everybody does. | ||
I mean, he's super open about it. | ||
Tells you exactly what his dosage were. | ||
He wasn't any higher than anybody else. | ||
But he also highlights that the reason why he got so good, the reason why he was Mr. Olympia, was he was willing to fucking work harder. | ||
Like, it wasn't just the drugs. | ||
No, they're all on juice, but there's a difference. | ||
It's a work ethic. | ||
However, not a sport. | ||
Not a sport. | ||
It's something different. | ||
How can you say that that is like boxing? | ||
Boxing is a sport. | ||
Soccer is a sport. | ||
You're trying to win, right? | ||
You're trying to do something faster and move quicker. | ||
When you don't move, your whole thing is standing still. | ||
This is your shit. | ||
Your shit is this. | ||
Standing still. | ||
It's an art form. | ||
It's not one that I'm really into. | ||
When you think about it, it's pretty homosexual, man. | ||
It's other dudes judging dudes' body. | ||
Think about it. | ||
You know what, man? | ||
There's definitely a little weirdness to it. | ||
I wouldn't say homosexual. | ||
It's self-congratulatory. | ||
What would you say? | ||
There's something silly about it. | ||
You ever seen my boy Kai Greene before? | ||
Some shit that he did to make ends meet? | ||
What? | ||
I'm preparing myself. | ||
You know what I'm talking about, Jamie? | ||
What are you looking for, brother? | ||
Grab some, man. | ||
Yeah, I'll take one. | ||
Thank you. | ||
Yeah, I'll take a beer, brother. | ||
Brandon. | ||
Before we get going, thanks to Grillo's Pickles for hooking us up again. | ||
Those are the best. | ||
They're the shit. | ||
He's growing now. | ||
He's selling them in Whole Foods and all over the place. | ||
Of course. | ||
They're delicious. | ||
I met this dude in... | ||
I met this dude in a park in Boston. | ||
He was in the park. | ||
I was filming this scene in a movie with Kevin James. | ||
And some dude had a pickle cart. | ||
Thank you, brother. | ||
And I was like, a pickle cart? | ||
Who the fuck has a pickle cart? | ||
So I walked up to the dude. | ||
Yeah, it was pretty cool. | ||
I was like, that's pretty interesting. | ||
He goes, yeah, would you like a sample? | ||
He was smart, man. | ||
Their pickles are so fucking good, he's just handing out pickles. | ||
And we were like, oh shit, he's very clever, man. | ||
Delicious. | ||
So I do a show at the Wilbur Theater, and dude gave out free pickles. | ||
Instead of like selling pickles, the dude just gave out free pickles in the lobby. | ||
Like, just giving people pickles. | ||
Guerrilla marketing, just doing the damn thing. | ||
And you become an addict. | ||
Yeah. | ||
They're so good. | ||
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And they're healthy. | |
They're delicious. | ||
Pickles are good for you. | ||
They're like one of those weird snacks where it's okay to eat. | ||
There's nothing bad about it. | ||
It's true. | ||
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I believe you. | |
You know the pickle juice has electrolytes. | ||
I'm not sure. | ||
I want to believe you. | ||
Well, certain ones have sugar in them. | ||
Certain ones have sugar in them, but the pickle juice, people drink for electrolytes. | ||
We still have it on the sidelines. | ||
This is the Tyron Woodley-Johnny Hendricks fight. | ||
Didn't Woodley say that Johnny Hendricks bit him? | ||
Didn't he say he bit him or some shit? | ||
He grabbed his face. | ||
But see, you know what, man? | ||
That's like a frozen moment in time. | ||
It's real hard unless you see the actual video of what it looked like when the hand made contact with the face. | ||
Because everybody knows that in the middle of a crazy grappling session, occasionally a hand will go where it's not supposed to go. | ||
And who gives a shit if he bit him? | ||
Look at the kind of shape he's in. | ||
Wow. | ||
They're both in amazing shape. | ||
Both amazing fighters, man. | ||
It's a really interesting fight, man. | ||
Woodley is training a lot now with Duke, Duke Rufus. | ||
Help his striking out? | ||
Yeah. | ||
That's his biggest problem, is his striking, really. | ||
Well, I wouldn't say it's his problem. | ||
I think he's, you know, I think his... | ||
He's almost got, like, too much of a gift in his power and speed. | ||
And when you use that gift, you know, he can do shit. | ||
Like, the way he can move, he can move, like, as fast as anybody, if not faster than anybody. | ||
But that requires a lot of energy. | ||
And you've got to know when to do it and when not to do it. | ||
A lot of oxygen. | ||
Yeah. | ||
So I think he has, because of that, he has a... | ||
It's... | ||
Compared to a guy who doesn't have that kind of horsepower, he has like a unique situation. | ||
He has to really like figure out when to sprint and when to lay back. | ||
And I think you saw way more than the Kelvin Gastelum fight. | ||
And that was a fight that he worked with Duke. | ||
Duke is like such a smart polished striker that I think Tyron can only get better trained with him. | ||
But at the end of the day, what's scary about that dude is always that fucking bum rush, man. | ||
See, I think with Woodley that's what he has. | ||
You know what I think? | ||
I think you get better at everything. | ||
I think that's it. | ||
I don't think like saying, hey, the only way you can win this is a sprint. | ||
I think that guy's getting better. | ||
So you think he can up his cardio? | ||
100%. | ||
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Really? | |
I think he changes his approach. | ||
Changes his approach just slightly, be a little bit more efficient, and, you know, just know when to sprint, when not. | ||
And I think that comes with the experience, too, don't you? | ||
I agree. | ||
He has a lot of fights, though. | ||
He does have a lot of fights. | ||
But, you know, coming into it as a wrestler, when you think about the actual amount of strike, here you see him, like, look how fast the fucking dude is. | ||
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Jesus Christ. | |
He's a fucking monster. | ||
I think when you look at his actual striking experience, though, it's not nearly as much as, say, his grappling experience. | ||
100%. | ||
You know, so he's got to catch up in a certain way. | ||
That was a crazy fight. | ||
Him and Kosciak, Jesus Christ. | ||
That was the big one, the Jay Heron fight. | ||
That was the one where you say, Jesus, if this dude's bum rushes you, you've got a fucking terrifying problem. | ||
But then it didn't work in the Rory McDonald fight. | ||
Rory McDonald figured out a way how to solve the riddle that is that big right hand and the bum rush. | ||
Kept his hands up high and did that extension thing with his arms. | ||
He was throwing a lot of jabs. | ||
Rory's going to drag you in the later rounds. | ||
Well, Rory avoided all the craziness. | ||
He avoided all the craziness. | ||
And that's Faraz, dude. | ||
Faraz Sahabi. | ||
He's a wizard. | ||
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He's a beast. | |
You ever see his breakdowns? | ||
He breaks down fights and talks about technique and why guys are good at it. | ||
He's one of my favorite guys on the planet. | ||
I think as far as MMA coaches go, he's number one. | ||
He's the best I've ever been around. | ||
Well, Matt Hume's pretty goddamn good, too. | ||
He's revolutionizing guard point. | ||
Think about his guys. | ||
GSP and then Roy McDonald. | ||
He's had those guys since day one. | ||
Well, there's a few guys right now that I think they're all in the mix. | ||
I think your boy Mark Henry's in the mix. | ||
For sure. | ||
He's so underrated, that guy. | ||
But he's all striking. | ||
Like, for us, he's a black belt in jiu-jitsu, ridiculous kickboxer, great boxer. | ||
I'm just talking about straight MMA coach. | ||
Monster. | ||
Didn't he wrestle in college, too? | ||
He did something. | ||
But you know what, dude? | ||
How do you fuck with Matt Hume? | ||
I mean, look at Matt Hume's best student. | ||
His best student is pound for pound the best guy on the planet Earth today. | ||
Mighty Mouse may be fighting guys that are small and they may be not the same sort of talent pool. | ||
But you can't tell me John Dodson is a motherfucker. | ||
John Dodson is a goddamn motherfucker and Mighty Mouse shut him down and did so in the most efficient and impressive way I've ever seen. | ||
Mighty Mouse is top five. | ||
Barely got hit. | ||
He's not my number one. | ||
He's top five. | ||
Okay. | ||
Well, you know, it's all subjective, right? | ||
Oh, I agree. | ||
But he's my number one. | ||
I think he's the best. | ||
And you watch Matt Hume and him work together. | ||
You watch all the strategy that's involved and all the thinking and all the technique and the footwork. | ||
100%. | ||
Those two guys, man, you want to have a super team? | ||
Jesus Christ. | ||
Farras Ahabi and Matt Hume on the same team. | ||
Well, what's impressive with Matt Hume is at that lighter weight, you have to be good at fucking everything. | ||
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No holes. | |
Zero holes. | ||
And Mighty Mouse has that. | ||
He's a black belt in everything. | ||
World class in everything. | ||
He's also so fucking sneaky, man. | ||
He's so sneaky. | ||
Like when he's moving on those dudes, like when I'm watching him move on dots and I'm like, this motherfucker and his footwork, like it's never the same beat. | ||
You know what I'm saying? | ||
It's not like one, two, one, two, one, two. | ||
There's all this sporadic shit that your brain has to try to process. | ||
And that's something that Feroz has talked about too, like overloading a dude's mind with possibilities. | ||
And I think Feroz is really the only guy I've ever heard articulate it, but you can see it in the movements of Mighty Mouse. | ||
That's clearly what they're trying to initiate. | ||
Bro, let's talk about Chris Weidman needs to do something. | ||
Mighty Mouse, we gotta figure something out. | ||
We gotta figure something out. | ||
We need a gimmick. | ||
I don't know if he comes in with a cape. | ||
We gotta do something, man. | ||
We gotta figure something out. | ||
I just hope if we keep talking about him, people will eventually figure it out. | ||
So what's the big fight for Mighty Mouse? | ||
Maybe Henry Cejudo? | ||
Henry Cejudo's a big fight, but now Henry Cejudo says he won't fight in Vegas because of Nick Diaz. | ||
And he doesn't even smoke weed. | ||
He doesn't even smoke weed. | ||
But for him, it's a matter of principle. | ||
Every UFC fighter should do this. | ||
You want to make a fucking change, just say, hey, we're not fighting in Vegas. | ||
You think they'll change it? | ||
Or they'll just say, fuck it? | ||
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I think they would. | |
There's so much money. | ||
You think they're going to change it? | ||
I do. | ||
I think they're going to lose the lawsuit, first of all. | ||
I'm pretty sure they're going to lose the lawsuit. | ||
That lawsuit's for real. | ||
They're gonna go. | ||
Oh, 100%. | ||
They can't let this happen. | ||
And by the way, they've already lost when they had a lifetime ban on Vanderlei Silva. | ||
They lost that. | ||
You can't do that. | ||
You can't give a guy a lifetime ban. | ||
You can't callously take away a man's livelihood when he didn't even test positive. | ||
I agree. | ||
Vanderlei didn't do the right thing by avoiding the test. | ||
He ran. | ||
He ran. | ||
We don't know what he was on. | ||
We don't know what the situation was. | ||
We know what he said. | ||
Okay? | ||
But all I'm saying is we lay it out. | ||
I agree. | ||
You have to punish him, for sure, right? | ||
There has to be some sort of punishment. | ||
But the idea of taking away the man's livelihood as a punishment for escaping a drug test that if he was positive for, would only get at the time, I think it was a nine-month suspension that was mandatory, right? | ||
You can't do that. | ||
It's insane. | ||
That's a tyranny. | ||
Don't you think just these fucks who check guys' piss and blood are the baddest dudes on the planet just trying to... | ||
Flex their muscle. | ||
They go home at night like, yeah, he's banned for life. | ||
I fucked that dude. | ||
Well, you know what it is, man? | ||
I think it's the same problem that we have with cops in a lot of ways. | ||
It becomes a game of trying to win. | ||
When you hear about prosecutors, and when you hear about cops that are hiding evidence, and prosecutors that are avoiding evidence, or evidence that shows that the person that they're trying to convict may be innocent, you hear about those stories, you go, how could someone do that? | ||
It's an ego thing. | ||
They do that also because they want the score. | ||
They want to win. | ||
Why do people cheat when it comes to card games or pool? | ||
Yeah, you want to win. | ||
They do it because they want to win. | ||
It becomes a score thing. | ||
And when you're arresting people, it becomes a score. | ||
It's so fucked up, man. | ||
Yeah, it's fucking terrible. | ||
Think about if all the fighters got together like, you know what? | ||
You want to treat our boy Nick Diaz like this? | ||
We're not fucking fighting in Vegas. | ||
But the big dogs do this. | ||
Connor, Rhonda, fucking Kane. | ||
We're like, until you change this, until you change us, we're not coming there. | ||
Guaranteed, we see fucking change really, really fast. | ||
A lot of people were disappointed in something Mighty Mouse said earlier this week. | ||
I didn't read the quote, though. | ||
He said he would fight. | ||
But there was a quote that people were upset about, a very particular quote. | ||
I don't remember what it was. | ||
I don't know what it was. | ||
I want to paraphrase it. | ||
Can we get Mighty Mouse a PR guy something? | ||
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I don't know what's wrong, man. | |
Can we get Conor McGregor in his ear or some shit? | ||
I don't know what's wrong. | ||
What about that case where those kids in Paradise Lost, they get accused of murdering these boys in the woods because they thought the dumbass cops in the small town, they thought it was a satanic ritual because they're The animals would come and they eat the balls and they eat the dick. | ||
Oh, the documentary? | ||
You're talking about a documentary? | ||
Yeah, that documentary, Paradise Lost. | ||
You gotta see this in three parts. | ||
Oh, the animals would eat the balls and dicks, so they thought that these guys ate the balls? | ||
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Satanic! | |
The Satanic! | ||
So they went to the high school and found the goth kids and fucking prosecuted them. | ||
So what happened to the boys? | ||
They were in jail for like 17, 20 years. | ||
No, the boys who got their dicks eaten. | ||
How'd they die? | ||
They ended up... | ||
They got their dicks eaten off! | ||
They got murdered. | ||
They got murdered, but they went after the goth kids because they thought it was a satanic murder. | ||
Who knows who did it? | ||
So they never found the guys. | ||
But when you look into the story, man, it's deep, dude. | ||
It's three parts, paradise loss. | ||
Dude, they were in jail. | ||
And they knew it. | ||
And when they finally figured out that they didn't do it, they decided to say there was so much pressure with the Supreme Court. | ||
They didn't want to lose so bad that they said, hey, we'll let you guys out of prison right now, but you got to admit that you did it. | ||
Wow. | ||
Instead of dragging on another couple years, they let them out as long as they... | ||
Admitted that they did it. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Oh my God. | ||
So they got them off the hook and then they let them out. | ||
They still won. | ||
They got a conviction. | ||
That was the most important thing. | ||
By the way, George Roop is in the middle of fighting Mitsugaki right now. | ||
Four minutes, 22 seconds into the first round. | ||
It's a fucking scrap so far. | ||
Bro, I haven't seen George Roop fight in a grip. | ||
Did I just miss something? | ||
Mitsugaki, did he have a fight after the Dominick Cruz fight? | ||
No, I don't think so. | ||
Dominick Cruz made him take a vacation. | ||
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Murphed him. | |
Straight vacation. | ||
It's time to just lay back. | ||
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Just fucking chill out, huh? | |
Figure out what the fuck just happened. | ||
I hear ya. | ||
Dominic Cruz came out like a wildebeest. | ||
Sight in TJ. Dillashaw, that's a fight. | ||
Fuck. | ||
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That's a motherfucker. | |
I hope he stays healthy. | ||
I hope his knee doesn't fall off. | ||
He's a beast, dude. | ||
He came running like some sort of a wild animal at him. | ||
I mean, that was what it was like. | ||
He beat the fuck out of him. | ||
Like a Tasmanian devil swarmed on him. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Yeah, and then after when I was talking to him, he's like, dude, I barely even remember the fight. | ||
He just saw red. | ||
He just went into the zone, like immediately into the zone. | ||
See, one of the things I like about Dominic specifically is the way he thinks about fighting. | ||
And you see that when he does the UFC analyst position, when he starts talking about, like, especially post-fight breakdowns of what guys did wrong. | ||
And he's really, really aware of, like, movement and technique, very, very on top of the sport, you know, constantly. | ||
Yes, him and D.C. are probably the two smartest guys I know about the sport. | ||
As far as current fighters talking about the sport, you listen to Dominick Cruz talk, you're like, Jesus Christ. | ||
Like, he was helping Chael out before. | ||
I forget who Chael was going to fight, but we were working out together, and he was discussing these angles and his footwork. | ||
I was like, Jesus Christ. | ||
Yeah, he has his PhD in footwork. | ||
Yeah, he's a wizard. | ||
And I think he opened up a lot of guys' eyes as to how frustrating that shit was. | ||
You know, I think a lot of people, you know, he's one of those, there's these innovators, these fighters that will take, like, these steps. | ||
And when they take these steps, like, you see everybody else go, oh, okay. | ||
It's a copycat league. | ||
Oh, for sure. | ||
Well, as a sport, I mean, I think the sport is still, first of all, there's more variables, I think, in mixed martial arts than there are in any other combat sport by far, right? | ||
We could easily agree to that. | ||
And I think that just the unique demands of combat sports, the ability to keep your emotions in check, and to deal with getting your fucking bell rung, getting blasted while you're in there, those variables, there's so many. | ||
And then, the different ways you can fight. | ||
The fact that you can take a fight to the ground, the fact that you have to avoid a guy trying to take you to the ground, the fact that while you're thinking about the guy trying to take you to the ground, he can punch you in the face, because you're looking for it. | ||
There's so many variables going on. | ||
We're not even remotely done with figuring out what's the best way to do this thing. | ||
I don't know if we ever will be. | ||
I don't think we ever will. | ||
I think it's constantly evolving. | ||
Just jiu-jitsu alone, you don't have enough time to master at all. | ||
There's too many techniques in jiu-jitsu to master. | ||
You add the wrestling, and then you add the kickboxing. | ||
And body type. | ||
And certain body types. | ||
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The Haja Gracie body, right? | ||
Arguably the best, right? | ||
That's the best body for the long, strong guys. | ||
His striking's getting better, right? | ||
Haja Gracie? | ||
It seems like, I don't know if he's still fighting, but his last fight, he won, and it looked like his jab. | ||
Did he decide to stop doing MMA? I think so, yeah, he's focusing on Jiu-Jitsu. | ||
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Did he? | |
Yeah, I think he decided. | ||
He won his last fight and then just said, fuck it? | ||
I think so. | ||
I'm not positively retired, but I know he's doing way more Jiu-Jitsu. | ||
It seemed like his striking was finally coming together. | ||
One of the nicest guys ever. | ||
Good footwork and good jab. | ||
Good dude. | ||
I'm a big fan. | ||
I'm a big fan of his jiu-jitsu too. | ||
But you know who impressed the shit out of me in the Neil Magni fight is Damian Maia. | ||
I was like, Jesus Christ. | ||
Christ, he's a boa constrictor. | ||
I mean, I knew it from the Rick Story fight. | ||
I saw in the Rick Story fight, I'm like, this is like a next level constrictor. | ||
You know, especially when he gets down to 170, he's a big ass 170. At 185, he was like a good size. | ||
He wasn't like undersized. | ||
But at 170, you can tell that with his technique and then the strength and leverage, the long limbs advantage that he's having... | ||
He's on a tear right now. | ||
Super tear. | ||
But it's the way he took the back, and then when I talked to him about it afterwards, after the fight, he was talking about the adjustments that he had to make to get Neil Magny's back and to finish him off because of how he was defending. | ||
I'm like, guys, he's on a very, very high level. | ||
Super high level. | ||
I can't think of a worse matchup for Neil. | ||
Then Neil took that fight against Eric Silva and then won that fight, so he's back on track. | ||
The Eric Silva fight was a good fight. | ||
It was weird. | ||
It was weird to see Eric Silva look like that, right? | ||
A lot of people had questions about the way he looked physically. | ||
This is just something we're going to have to deal with in the middle of this drug testing environment now. | ||
Everyone's under suspicion, right? | ||
When you come in and your body looks radically different than it did before, Immediately people are going to suspect. | ||
Don't you think people have the right to suspect? | ||
For sure. | ||
Is there steroids in boxing? | ||
Yeah. | ||
You serious? | ||
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Yeah. | |
Well, they haven't figured out how to clean. | ||
Boxing's been around for 7,000 years and they haven't figured out how to keep that together. | ||
They don't give a fuck. | ||
Let me tell you something right now. | ||
Let me tell you something right now. | ||
The amount of testing that the UFC fighters go through is above and beyond anything you ever see ever in boxing. | ||
Ever. | ||
Unless you get a Floyd Mayweather, Manny Pacquiao type situation where they agree. | ||
Then it's similar. | ||
They agree to water testing. | ||
Yeah. | ||
But even in that one, we found out that Floyd took an IV. Yeah. | ||
Bro, you're not allowed to take an IV. Without getting it cleared. | ||
In boxing? | ||
Yes. | ||
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Really? | |
With under the U.S. anti-doping agency rules because you can use an IV and the IV can mask the use of any sort of steroid you're on. | ||
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Yeah. | |
Bro, you ever seen Evander Holyfield back in the day? | ||
That was steroids? | ||
He could have won like third in Mr. Olympia. | ||
He's fucking jacked. | ||
Well, when he went up from Cruiserweight. | ||
And he got tested positive. | ||
He didn't test positive, but he got linked to a steroid clinic under the name like Boley Holyfield or some bullshit. | ||
You think Tyson ever fucked with that? | ||
He got fucked. | ||
What about Tyson? | ||
What do you think? | ||
What do I think? | ||
If I had to bet my entire life savings on it? | ||
100%. | ||
But I don't know for sure. | ||
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Who knows? | |
I know professional sports. | ||
I'll tell you what, though, man. | ||
When Tyson came out of jail, remember when we saw Jack Tyson? | ||
Damn, Michigaki just cracked George Rupert. | ||
Two big shots. | ||
Remember Jack Tyson? | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
When Tyson fought, was it Kevin Ferguson? | ||
Was that his first opponent right out of jail? | ||
Is that what his name? | ||
Kevin something? | ||
Ferguson, that's right. | ||
Is that right? | ||
Yeah, that's right. | ||
I feel like it's wrong. | ||
There was an Irish guy. | ||
Tony Ferguson? | ||
No, no, no. | ||
Who was the Irish guy that he fought the first time out of jail? | ||
I want to say Jake O'Brien. | ||
God, I feel like Ferguson's right. | ||
Peter McNeely. | ||
What's that? | ||
Peter McNeely. | ||
That's it. | ||
Jake O'Brien is a guy who fought in the UFC. What am I talking about? | ||
Yeah, he is. | ||
Light heavyweight. | ||
Yeah. | ||
And heavy. | ||
Yeah, Peter McNeely. | ||
When Tyson fought Peter McNeely, did you ever see what he looked like from that fight? | ||
Jamie, pull up a picture of Mike Tyson versus Peter McNeely. | ||
Fresh out of prison? | ||
He looked like a bodybuilder. | ||
Looked like a bodybuilder. | ||
Enjoy that fight. | ||
Radical six pack. | ||
Fucking super buff. | ||
So he was getting good nutrition in jail. | ||
Everyone gets swole like that in jail. | ||
From those fucking three square meals a day. | ||
Terrible food they give you apparently. | ||
Who the fuck would sign up for that fight? | ||
That's like fighting Jon Jones out of jail or prison. | ||
Enjoy that. | ||
It's gonna be a motherfucker. | ||
Also, the amount of people that were paying attention to that because they felt like Mike Tyson got railroaded. | ||
That was a questionable decision, what had happened to him. | ||
And the lawyers... | ||
Sort of strategy for dealing with the case was that the girl should have known. | ||
She should have known where she was going. | ||
At 3 a.m., no hotel room? | ||
Yeah, that she should have known, but also she should have known because of the guy that Mike is. | ||
Like, their strategy was to, like, make it look like he was just a bad guy. | ||
Look, you should know. | ||
He's out there merking dudes, you know? | ||
Watch the Marvis Fraser fight and expect, what do you think's going to happen when you get alone with that guy? | ||
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What the fuck do you think was happening? | |
You know he has that big old dick coming up to the hotel room. | ||
And that was essentially their strategy, the lawyer's strategy. | ||
And that shit just didn't work. | ||
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The judge was like, get the fuck out of here with this. | |
But the girl had apparently, allegedly, she had a false rape accusation already before the Tyson. | ||
So it's her thing. | ||
So it wasn't, you know, look man, some of these people out there in this wild world are crazy as fuck. | ||
It's tough, man. | ||
You don't know? | ||
You never know. | ||
If Joey Diaz was Mike Tyson's lawyer, what would that sound like? | ||
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Listen, cocksucker, everybody knows you're a fucking creep. | |
You're out there banging bitches. | ||
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You're showing your giant dick to the fucking general public. | |
You're gonna plead the fifth. | ||
I'm gonna fucking talk for you. | ||
Listen, Mike, you're the baddest of all time. | ||
We're gonna get you out of this. | ||
The girl should've known! | ||
Should've known! | ||
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It's 3 o'clock in the morning. | |
The fuck do you think you're here for? | ||
We're gonna read books. | ||
What are we gonna do? | ||
We're gonna hold hands. | ||
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We're gonna break out the fucking Ouija board and conjure up your grandmother. | |
Suck the dick! | ||
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I got you in a fucking hotel room. | |
It's a limo ride. | ||
You ate lobster? | ||
You ate lobster. | ||
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Did you eat lobster? | |
Well, you suck dick. | ||
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You eat lobster, you suck dick. | |
Guaranteed. | ||
I buy crystal because you're my friend. | ||
Come on. | ||
So she claimed he just straight raped her. | ||
I don't know what the exact claim was. | ||
It's a while ago. | ||
I really shouldn't be even saying what the evidence was because I barely remember. | ||
But there was something similar to... | ||
She had come up to the room, she had taken off her panty shield in the bathroom, and they were saying, like, that says that she was getting ready for sex, which doesn't necessarily mean that. | ||
It could mean she didn't need it anymore, it was funky, she took a leak, she wanted to take it out of her vagina, that's what the garbage is for. | ||
You know? | ||
I don't know. | ||
I don't have one of those. | ||
Yeah, I don't know either, but... | ||
But... | ||
So far, yeah. | ||
There was no... | ||
I don't think there was anything that, you know, could have... | ||
I don't think there's anything that could have been done while it was going on to make it... | ||
If you're not there, right, to make it accurate, if you're not there, if you're not the woman or you're not the man, when you're describing something that happens, when someone's alleging that someone raped you... | ||
You kind of fuck when you're Mike Tyson, you accuse him of rape, because we're all like, yeah, I can see it, but did he do it? | ||
I don't know, man. | ||
I don't know either. | ||
And I think that whenever... | ||
The court says he did. | ||
The court said he did, and they put him away. | ||
He still says he didn't. | ||
And I think, like, I don't know. | ||
I don't know. | ||
When you find out that someone had already gotten off of a false rape accusation, that doesn't necessarily mean that they can't get raped still. | ||
You know what I mean? | ||
True, but it means bitches be crazy. | ||
But it would be like a crazy cry wolf, right? | ||
Bitches do be crazy, but who knows what the original circumstance was. | ||
And she was really young at the time, too. | ||
She's super hot, too. | ||
So you never know. | ||
Maybe she was dating some other animal or something. | ||
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Who knows? | |
But I tell you, you're guilty right away, especially in the public. | ||
If you're an athlete, big dude, scary dude, you're guilty right away. | ||
How about the scariest boxer of all time? | ||
I mean, Mike Tyson in his prime was the scariest boxer of all time. | ||
Scariest dude of all time. | ||
Hands down. | ||
No one came close. | ||
When he would go in there with that towel cut off, no fucking socks on. | ||
I was scared at home. | ||
Jesus Christ, he was a monster. | ||
But anyway, who knows what the fuck happened. | ||
That was my point. | ||
But anyway, when he got out of jail... | ||
Pull up that picture, Jamie. | ||
Did you get that picture? | ||
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I was close. | |
You were close? | ||
He's so shredded, dude. | ||
Bro, that motherfucker Fedor's on some shit right now. | ||
You seen him? | ||
How dare you? | ||
I'm not saying he's on some shit. | ||
I'm saying he's on that prison workout program, bro. | ||
Oh, is that what he's on? | ||
Yeah, he's jacked. | ||
He's getting three square meals a day. | ||
Oh, hell no. | ||
Jesus Christ. | ||
Oh, my God. | ||
Oh, hell no. | ||
Go full screen with that picture. | ||
Oh my god. | ||
Why did you say Tyson got prison officer pregnant? | ||
Damn straight he did. | ||
Look at that fucking monster. | ||
I don't know. | ||
That could be some bullshit. | ||
Go to that visit page, please. | ||
Let's find out that visit page. | ||
No, what am I, TMZ? I don't even want to read that. | ||
Of course he did. | ||
Go back to the photo. | ||
Fuck, I don't want to hear this story. | ||
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I don't want to give it the time of day. | |
I want to admire his body. | ||
Damn, he fucked a prison guard. | ||
Of course he did. | ||
That's always in rap videos. | ||
Like, that was Tupac, right? | ||
Wasn't that one of Tupac? | ||
Wouldn't I get free? | ||
Yeah, dog. | ||
Remember he was talking about the girl, the prison lady? | ||
The two guys who escaped the prison earlier this year, they were fucking the prison guard. | ||
Yeah, you can't have girls. | ||
Now you gotta honeydick them in and give them your keys to get out. | ||
The body on Tyson. | ||
Jesus Christ. | ||
Is that the optimum look, though, when you're fighting? | ||
For him it was. | ||
Especially how explosive he was. | ||
For that fight. | ||
Kevin McNeely was out of his league. | ||
You know the Japanese anime where there's girls that are cops and detectives going after criminals and the criminals always fuck them? | ||
You ever see that? | ||
Oh, that's hilarious. | ||
Yeah, that's like the theme of it. | ||
They're always going after him, and they almost catch him, they catch him, he seduces her, he fucks her, and he escapes, and she's constantly trying to... | ||
Well, you know, that's gotta happen, right? | ||
The female cops and, like, super gangster dudes who have tons of money and big dicks. | ||
You think this happens in real life? | ||
Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
Yeah, especially... | ||
All those cartoons are based on, uh, inspired by real events. | ||
A situation like the girl has to go undercover. | ||
And then, you know, while she's undercover, she falls in love. | ||
So I don't know what happened. | ||
I don't know what happened. | ||
She tries to pull the card at the end and arrest him, but she can't do it. | ||
The end of the episode is the same. | ||
She almost has him, and then he just fucking talks her into sucking his dick. | ||
What is up with those weird Japanese anime ones where they have octopuses? | ||
They all have, like, octopuses. | ||
They're getting fucked by, like, multiple armed animals and shit. | ||
What is all that about? | ||
You know what I'm talking about? | ||
This is a cartoon? | ||
This is real life. | ||
No, anime. | ||
Right, you know what I'm talking about, right? | ||
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Yeah, but I don't know why. | |
Why? | ||
What is that about, right? | ||
They fuck octopus? | ||
Well, yeah. | ||
Is it just tentacles? | ||
Is it tentacle porn? | ||
Is that what they call it? | ||
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Yeah, I'll pull something up so you can see. | |
They love sushi, man. | ||
That's funny, because for the last couple of days, I've been really into going on YouTube and just watching intelligent octopus documentaries where they test their intelligence. | ||
Do you know that... | ||
Off the coast of Washington, they have a problem with, there's certain areas that they have a problem with in the water, where an octopus attack you, and they got it on film, like attacking these divers and shit. | ||
I love octopus, man. | ||
Have you heard of this? | ||
Well, they're predatory. | ||
Have you ever seen the video of them eating sharks? | ||
No. | ||
Damn, like a giant squid or something? | ||
Pull up the video of octopus kills a shark because there was a problem that they had with this aquarium where these sharks were dying and they thought that like someone was stealing the sharks or they thought that maybe like one of the other sharks was killing the sharks. | ||
They couldn't figure out what the fuck was going on. | ||
So they set up a camera, and in the hidden camera they found out that octopuses are gangster as fuck. | ||
Fuck yeah! | ||
They're so smart! | ||
It's incredible! | ||
They hide in these rocks, and they pretend to be the color of the rock. | ||
They can change their color to look like their background. | ||
Like, they camouflage themselves. | ||
And while this shark is swimming by, the octopus just fucking explodes out and grabs him and eats him alive. | ||
That's one of those bullshit sharks, though. | ||
Well, it's a small shark, but it's just, when you put these motherfuckers in captivity, the sharks don't give a shit. | ||
As long as they have food, they're kind of dumb. | ||
But octopuses are not dumb. | ||
Octopus are smart as fuck. | ||
I love a good octopus, man. | ||
Octopi. | ||
Yeah, I love them. | ||
I think you're supposed to say octopi. | ||
Might be one of my favorite animals. | ||
Does it actually capture on film? | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
It's awesome. | ||
He's about to murk this fucking sissy shark. | ||
I think I've seen this, but the footage ain't that good. | ||
It's not bad, dude. | ||
Once they knew that the octopus was doing this, they set up all sorts of cameras. | ||
You see how they edit this shit? | ||
They edit it? | ||
I bet... | ||
I mean, that was probably taken three weeks before. | ||
Well, you gotta edit it, though. | ||
Well, I think both scenes are probably bullshit. | ||
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You know what I mean? | |
Like, all this other stuff? | ||
Like, all this stuff? | ||
This is like... | ||
We gotta build a story. | ||
Eddie Bravo knows a little bit too much about the business. | ||
You know a little too much about the business. | ||
Anytime I watch a Discovery Channel, I'm like, how do they get the cameras all over this? | ||
They're weaving a story? | ||
How many cameras? | ||
How did they get the camera in the water like that? | ||
Eddie Bravo can't watch a fucking superhero movie. | ||
It's like, come on. | ||
You know he's going to win. | ||
He always wins. | ||
Like, why would you watch it if you know what's going to happen at the end? | ||
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Why would you watch it? | |
Do you think he's going to lose? | ||
Did you think he was going to die? | ||
At the end was over. | ||
Were you shocked? | ||
Were you surprised? | ||
Like, whoa, the good guy won. | ||
The good guy always wins. | ||
I want the bad guy to win. | ||
Why can't the bad guy win? | ||
I want the bad guy to win once. | ||
I like Narcos. | ||
That's what I want to watch. | ||
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I want to watch Narcos. | |
Watch, watch, watch. | ||
This is it. | ||
Bitch, come here. | ||
Little bitch-ass shark. | ||
Oh, shit. | ||
Yeah. | ||
He just squeezes the life out of him. | ||
Jacked him. | ||
Well, their tentacles, man, their tentacles are not just strong as fuck, but the suction cups have prongs. | ||
They reach out and cling and rip things apart. | ||
It's not as simple as those are just soft suctions. | ||
Holy shit. | ||
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Shit! | |
Don't they have a hook, Joe? | ||
Don't they have a hook in their mouth? | ||
And if they lose a leg, their leg just grows right back. | ||
They're so gangster. | ||
And they have eyeballs that are really effective, but they're so different than ours, it's like a completely different branch of the evolutionary chain. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Ain't that a bitch if you're a shark? | ||
Yeah, what's crazy is when they're born from day one, they're on their own. | ||
So that's why they're so skittish and they hide all the time. | ||
But if you raise octopus in an environment where they don't have anything to fear, they go right up to you. | ||
And there's these octopus in this cove. | ||
I'm watching all these documentaries. | ||
There's this octopus in this cove where they're not afraid at all. | ||
You go into the water, they come right up to you and look you right in the fucking eye. | ||
They go right up to you and swim around and check you out. | ||
They're not scared as shit. | ||
But in the wild, since day one they're by themselves, their mothers don't raise them, they're just skittish and they're just hiding and shit all the time. | ||
Well I think when they come in contact with people too, if they have any sort of means of communication, they would let them know that people are dangerous. | ||
If they are really smart, I don't know how smart octopus are. | ||
Crazy smart. | ||
I know, right? | ||
I don't know how much information they can transfer to each other. | ||
There's all these videos of them doing, they learn really, really quick. | ||
They'll take an octopus, a wild octopus, they'll put it in an aquarium, and then they put a crab in some glass container where they can see the crab and they can't fish. | ||
Figure out how to fucking get the crab. | ||
But then, in the next container, they have an octopus that knows exactly how to get him. | ||
So the fucking octopus is watching the other one open shit up, and he's right there, and the octopus is like all excited, going like this, going, oh shit, I know how to do it. | ||
So then they give him another fucking crab in this glass container, and that octopus just goes. | ||
Quick! | ||
You wick! | ||
It's crazy! | ||
Dude! | ||
Can you look up octopus attacks human? | ||
They got an octopus on a cop on a diver's head! | ||
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On a diver's head! | |
Octopus attacks human. | ||
That's way scarier than a shark. | ||
I'd rip the fuck out of an octopus. | ||
I would rather be in the water with a shark than a killer octopus. | ||
Get the fuck out of here. | ||
A killer octopus? | ||
You're in too deep into this octopus. | ||
No, no, no. | ||
How big would the octopus be before you start freaking out? | ||
We're talking about a giant squid, like Moby Dick squid here? | ||
You'd have to start getting nervous at a certain weight. | ||
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No, no, octopus. | |
But here's the thing. | ||
200 pound octopus, I'm out. | ||
Okay, yeah, that's what I'm saying. | ||
That's what I'm saying. | ||
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Fuck that, dude. | |
Especially in the water, it wouldn't even take that much. | ||
It wouldn't even take a 70 pound octopus. | ||
I'm talking about like that thing. | ||
I'm talking about like... | ||
Look at what you're saying. | ||
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He's on his head. | |
In the water. | ||
He's on his head. | ||
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Look. | |
If you're in the water, okay, a really big one, like a 50, 60 pounder, could kill you. | ||
It's real possible. | ||
I guess he could drag me. | ||
They could drag you and they could bite your tank. | ||
They could bite your neck. | ||
They have beaks, dude. | ||
I mean, they can tear flesh apart. | ||
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They're not fast. | |
Are you watching? | ||
They're not fast. | ||
You're right. | ||
They're not fast. | ||
But if you got caught up in one of these in a tangle... | ||
In the water, how are you going to swim? | ||
How are you going to swim away? | ||
What if it cuts your cable? | ||
If it's that smart and it cuts your scuba cable, you're a dead man. | ||
For sure. | ||
Unless you can get to a knife and start stabbing that thing in the head. | ||
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There's a human getting attacked on this and you guys are watching. | |
You guys are discussing what would happen and they're showing you what's happened. | ||
He's taking off his mask. | ||
He's taking off his mask. | ||
He jumped on his mask. | ||
This is in Washington, dude. | ||
Look at him. | ||
Dude, I'm telling you, look at this. | ||
Meanwhile, the camera guy's not helping. | ||
This guy's getting jacked. | ||
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Look at this. | |
But look at him yanking off. | ||
Yeah, but he's got to be careful, right? | ||
Oh my god. | ||
That's a big-ass act. | ||
I'm not talking about one of these Moby Dick squids. | ||
How deep was he in there? | ||
Dude, this isn't... | ||
They have a problem in Washington off the coast. | ||
An octopus at attack. | ||
How many people have died? | ||
Look at this. | ||
Look at the beak. | ||
See? | ||
See the fucking beak? | ||
I'm not worried about octopus, bro. | ||
That's a bad B movie, right? | ||
Like some bunch of 20-year-olds go camping off the coast of Washington. | ||
Jamie, rewind that because it's like that thing from the movie Alien. | ||
Look at the tongue that comes out. | ||
Look at this. | ||
Meanwhile, the whole boy's on the screen crying his eyes out right now. | ||
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Dude, they might be aliens. | |
They might be aliens. | ||
Or they might live in the ocean. | ||
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I'm gonna go with Joe on this one. | |
They're right there. | ||
They're animals from another planet. | ||
Yeah, this guy's getting jacked. | ||
I think it was just trying to test him. | ||
But, you know, they found these fossil remains of what they think was an enormous one. | ||
The problem is when these things die, we don't know how big they used to be. | ||
You know, we know Megalodon existed, but we know that basically because of his jaw. | ||
We don't know how big their beaks were, and there's times they can't find their bodies because their bodies deteriorate, but they have fossilized remains of enormous suction cups in an octopus's tentacle formation that they think indicates those mysteries of the kraken, where they would talk about this enormous fucking octopus that could take down a ship, and sailors would see them at sea and be terrified. | ||
See, that's some scary shit. | ||
Could have been bullshit, but they have these fossilized versions now of those tentacles, the suction cups, that are making scientists reconsider, and they think there might have been an enormous one. | ||
Like, they never even saw that giant squid until, like, a few years ago. | ||
I'm just saying the octopus now? | ||
Not scared. | ||
That's all I'm saying. | ||
Dude, dudes are going to train octopus to jerk them off. | ||
Watch. | ||
That's the future. | ||
God. | ||
No, man. | ||
You wish. | ||
That's like little pokers in those tentacles. | ||
You gotta clip them. | ||
Clip the pokers. | ||
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Clip the pokers like a cat. | |
Like, you know, you give your cat... | ||
What do you do to the gerbil when you put it in your butt? | ||
Um, you tape him up. | ||
You break his jaw, right? | ||
No, you pull his teeth out. | ||
Yeah, right? | ||
You guys have the wrong Richard Gere... | ||
You break their jaw, right? | ||
No, you shave them down. | ||
No, no, you just pull the teeth out, bro. | ||
You put them in a giant condom, like a bicycle ear tube. | ||
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For real? | |
Oh, that's... | ||
No, they're going to break that, bro. | ||
Dudes go raw dog on them. | ||
They go raw gerbil on them. | ||
Wait, but if you want to do it safely. | ||
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Go raw. | |
If you want to do it safe, you grab them up in a bike hose. | ||
Dude, I would never do it without breaking their jaw. | ||
Just put it inside you. | ||
A nice hammer fist. | ||
You just hold their head down and go... | ||
Just one little... | ||
And that's it. | ||
Josh Barnett versus... | ||
Roy Nelson is the main event here, and this is interesting watching Josh Barnett back in the fucking Pride days. | ||
He hasn't fought in a while. | ||
No, he hasn't. | ||
He hasn't fought since Travis Brown, correct? | ||
Correct. | ||
But he's been doing Metamorris, but that's a different animal. | ||
He's been killing it at grappling. | ||
Submit here on Gracie. | ||
That is not easy. | ||
Yeah, he's a beast, dude. | ||
Submitted Dean Lister, too, who's even bigger than here on. | ||
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Yes! | |
Dean Lister, there you go. | ||
Lister! | ||
Not like Lister Bowling. | ||
He was one of the first guys to submit Dean in like fucking 15 or 16 years. | ||
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In like forever. | |
How long has it been, Eddie? | ||
In competition? | ||
I think. | ||
I think the first time ever, right? | ||
In competition. | ||
I don't know if it was ever. | ||
I thought. | ||
I mean, maybe it was like as a black belt ever, but whatever it was, it was super impressive. | ||
Eddie, are we betting on this main event and co-main event? | ||
What? | ||
We're betting on the main event. | ||
Not the co-main event? | ||
I got Barnett. | ||
A thousand on Barnett? | ||
See, I think Barnett's going to win, but I'll bet you for the sake of it. | ||
You guys don't think that Roy Nelson can pull it off? | ||
I think you can. | ||
I think Josh is too experienced to eat that one. | ||
I think guys have figured out Roy. | ||
And it shows because he's won one of his last four fights. | ||
He's won in four of his last five, I think. | ||
Yeah, I don't know, man. | ||
I think Roy... | ||
Grante's been fighting tough, tough guys. | ||
Roy can always turn the lights out on you, man. | ||
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Always. | |
But when you're fighting a vet like Josh Barnett, man, they go, alright, you got a huge right hand, cool, we're gonna minimize that, I'm gonna get you into the cage. | ||
And really, you know, we talk about Roy being a black belt, which he is, don't get me wrong, under Henzo Gracie, but Josh Barnett's a motherfucker. | ||
He's gonna get you down. | ||
He certainly is. | ||
He's gonna get you down. | ||
He's certainly a motherfucker. | ||
And if you remember Frank Mayer vs Roy Nelson, remember Frank got him against Cage, was taking him down, kinda whooping his ass? | ||
So when I see that, I think Barnett's looking at that footage going, alright, we're gonna get him against Cage, we're gonna get him down and do work. | ||
Yeah, I don't know about that fight. | ||
Because how impressive was Josh against Frank Mir? | ||
Super impressive. | ||
I mean, he made Frank Mir look like it was towards the end of his career, and then Frank Mir after that went on this big comeback, right? | ||
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Sure. | |
He took time off, though. | ||
Yeah. | ||
But when you looked at that fight, that's a big part of it, right? | ||
The time off is a big part of it. | ||
That's a really important point, actually. | ||
Mm-hmm. | ||
I think Josh Barnett is super crafty, man. | ||
He knows so much. | ||
He's such a veteran, bro. | ||
He's such a veteran. | ||
But we look at him in the UFC, especially this comeback. | ||
He's 1-1, right? | ||
He beat Mare, which at the time, it wasn't like the Mare now. | ||
But he smashed him. | ||
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Smashed him. | |
And he did it in a pretty ruthless way. | ||
Charged his ass, hit him with that knee. | ||
Yeah. | ||
But then he got murked by Travis Brown. | ||
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He did. | |
And then he took a bunch of time off. | ||
He got Travis Browned. | ||
That one technique that Travis used on Gonzaga and he used on him. | ||
That elbow, yeah. | ||
That elbow with that wide spread that he has. | ||
That's all we trained. | ||
That's all we trained. | ||
And his fucking takedown defense is so nasty. | ||
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He's so wide. | |
He's so fucking tall. | ||
That elbow comes fast, too. | ||
I just think... | ||
I think Barnett with Roy, I think Stipe was the first one to like, alright, let's just avoid this right hand and go to work. | ||
And Josh is such a smarter fighter than all these other guys. | ||
Well, I think it's super interesting, but we're also assuming that Roy hasn't figured out that he needs to make some adjustments. | ||
It's too late, brother. | ||
I don't know about that. | ||
Really? | ||
I don't know about that. | ||
I disagree. | ||
See, what I know about Roy is he got good at jiu-jitsu enough to be a black belt, enough to be a highly considered black belt, beat Frank Mir in that grappling competition. | ||
To get that good at grappling, you have to be able to solve problems. | ||
So if he is really good at this one thing that he already knows, he's really good at knocking people out. | ||
You're talking about a young guy when he competed and all that. | ||
Yeah, but don't you think that he's just as hungry now as probably he's ever been before? | ||
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No. | |
I never see that guy looking like he's lost his enthusiasm for things. | ||
He's always been trying to fight the best guys in the world. | ||
I mean, and he's had some spectacular results against high-level guys. | ||
Like, look at the Czech-Kongo fight. | ||
When he knocked out Czech-Kongo, Czech-Kongo was pretty highly regarded, right? | ||
Has Czech-Kongo ever been highly regarded? | ||
Yeah, after the Cain Velasquez fight, especially. | ||
God damn, that was a while ago, bro. | ||
It was. | ||
And he still lost that fight. | ||
And then he knocked out Pat Barry. | ||
That Pat Barry fight show didn't come back. | ||
That was a long time ago, and he still lost that fight. | ||
You gotta stop doing that to me, bro. | ||
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You gotta stop making that face to me. | |
Well, listen man, Pat Berry had him on Queer Street. | ||
He gave him his mailbox, gave him the keys to his apartment. | ||
And Pat, you know I love you. | ||
You know I love you, but Pat Berry's not a world-class guy. | ||
But at that time, Pat Berry had never been knocked out before. | ||
And Check Congo knocked him out with one punch. | ||
That's a fact. | ||
That is a fact. | ||
But Pat had not been knocked out before, and that sort of started a series of bad losses that Pat had. | ||
He fought tougher guys. | ||
Pat is a wild dude. | ||
He came hard and strong and had him hurt bad. | ||
For sure. | ||
That was an amazing fight. | ||
One of the best of all time. | ||
And then Kongo came back and knocked him out. | ||
So I think Kongo's pretty highly regarded, in my opinion. | ||
In the UFC. And then after that, Roy knocking him out. | ||
I'm pretty sure that's the way it happened. | ||
I'm pretty sure Roy knocked him out after he had the war with Pat Peer. | ||
That's correct. | ||
That's correct. | ||
I just think that Roy has some stupid power, and you never know with a guy like that, man. | ||
When a guy has that kind of stupid power, if Roy hits you, if you fuck up, if you zig when you should have zagged, the dude can shut it off. | ||
But when you get to a certain level and you only have one thing, I'm not saying Roy only has one thing, but if your right hand's a motherfucker and you get to a certain level, these pros pros go, okay, not getting caught with that. | ||
And it's showing because he's one in four in his last five. | ||
I think, you know, it's cute, too, that he has that look, you know, with the big belly and he rubs his belly and he gets on top of the octagon. | ||
But I think the reality is he would move better and fight better if he didn't have that. | ||
100%. | ||
It's amazing how far he's gotten with all that extra body fat. | ||
It's amazing. | ||
Oh, he's world-class. | ||
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He could make 155. That's a stretch. | |
First of all, how dare you? | ||
How dare you, sir? | ||
Cover of the UG right now. | ||
Come on. | ||
Fucking front page. | ||
Eddie Bravo says Roy Nelson could make 185. If he got his diet together? | ||
No. | ||
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Come on. | |
He'd be a legit 205-er. | ||
A legit 205. He's a thick dude, man. | ||
But, I mean, look, maybe he could skinny the fuck out of himself and make 185. But if he did, he would probably be in hell. | ||
205. 205's reasonable. | ||
Okay, but if he weighs... | ||
What does he weigh? | ||
250? | ||
What do you think he weighs? | ||
Yeah, 255, 250. How many pounds overweight do you think he is? | ||
If you look at that big giant belly. | ||
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Probably 150. No, I don't know. | |
How much is that overweight? | ||
Joe Riggs used to be 300 pounds, and he fought at 300 pounds, and then he got down to 170. Yeah, but Joe Riggs was a different thing. | ||
Roy Nelson's not that tall. | ||
I think when he first started losing weight, Joe was really obese. | ||
I think it was a different kind of leg obese, arm obese. | ||
Roy's successful. | ||
You know, he's successful. | ||
Well, it's weird because he's only got it in the belly. | ||
Like, his arms aren't fat. | ||
His arms are like a stocky guy arms. | ||
Mmm, are they? | ||
They're not like his belly. | ||
His belly's this giant belly, and his legs are normal size. | ||
Yeah, but he's not like muscular. | ||
He doesn't have, like, the definition of shoulders. | ||
Well, look at Mark Hunt. | ||
Mark Hunt, the way he carries his body fat. | ||
Mark Hunt carries his body fat all over the place. | ||
He's got his body fat in his arms. | ||
He's got it in his legs. | ||
But Roy has it mostly in his belly. | ||
He has it all in his belly. | ||
I'm not a nutritional expert, so I could throw some bro science your way. | ||
I'll take some bro science. | ||
Bro, science like a motherfucker. | ||
Someone called Dolce immediately. | ||
We need to find out. | ||
I don't know what makes a guy's gut stick out more. | ||
Like, when you see a guy and he has a giant belly, but everything else seems sort of normal size, like, what is it? | ||
Is that a diet thing? | ||
Is that a genetic thing? | ||
Is it just his genetics where all the fat goes to the stomach? | ||
There's so many guys with giant bellies, but their legs are kind of normal. | ||
It's like a girl, though. | ||
Sometimes girls eat and they just have these fat asses, bro. | ||
And then their arms are skinny. | ||
I used to work with this guy. | ||
He was a construction guy. | ||
He had the weirdest body of all time. | ||
His legs were normal sized. | ||
His arms were normal sized. | ||
His face was barely fat. | ||
And then his chest was fairly normal. | ||
And then he had this crazy fucking belly that didn't make any sense. | ||
He would just look at his belly and go, what in the fuck? | ||
But then I thought about it one day. | ||
I was like, all that guy would have to do is get rid of that part of his body. | ||
And he's like a guy who plays softball on a regular basis. | ||
Yeah, he's a dime piece. | ||
He's hitting the gym, taking a spin class. | ||
He looks like a normal guy. | ||
It's a big if, though. | ||
Sometimes it's a kind of a hormone issue, right? | ||
I don't know. | ||
I wish I knew. | ||
We're guessing. | ||
This is straight bro science. | ||
Bro science. | ||
Roy Nelson's a motherfucker. | ||
That could be a show. | ||
Just bro science. | ||
Just a bunch of dudes talking about science. | ||
Just straight bullshit. | ||
Very vague. | ||
Dude, I saw this documentary, bro. | ||
Oh shit. | ||
It's a hormone thing. | ||
I don't fucking know. | ||
Sometimes it's good to not have Google nearby. | ||
True. | ||
It's funner. | ||
It's way funner. | ||
It brings us back to the old days. | ||
As long as no one likes to pretend, they don't like to pretend. | ||
That they know what the fuck they're talking about. | ||
Because that bro science goes down the chain, you know? | ||
Because whatever you tell me, then I tell someone. | ||
Exactly, yeah. | ||
And become science. | ||
I've said that so many times. | ||
I heard, and then... | ||
You know what? | ||
I'm pretty sure... | ||
That's why I always do that. | ||
I'm pretty sure... | ||
That's a weird thing though, man, like people's diets. | ||
I've been paying attention to my sugar intake lately over the last few weeks. | ||
They say that's cute, right? | ||
But I'm shocked at how much sugar is in things that I didn't know. | ||
Do you know that low-fat milk, for the most part, has sugar in it? | ||
Eight grams, son. | ||
They put sugar in low-fat milk because otherwise it's just nothing. | ||
Milk has a ton of sugar. | ||
And by the way, low fat sugar, or low fat milk rather, don't drink it. | ||
It has no nutritional value. | ||
None. | ||
Because all the things like vitamin D, vitamin K, vitamin E, they all have to bond to fats. | ||
So like, there's no fats in the milk, so it's like you're just drinking water. | ||
I don't fuck with milk. | ||
It's like nonsense. | ||
I like milk. | ||
I like almond milk. | ||
Yeah, almond milk and rice milk. | ||
Almond milk again, same thing though. | ||
If you read the ingredients, that shit is all sugar. | ||
Nah, son, you can get zero sugar. | ||
Unsweetened. | ||
Unsweetened almond milk? | ||
And it's delicious. | ||
Zero grams of sugar. | ||
Most of the stuff you get though has the famous brands. | ||
They do have unsweetened though. | ||
Duncan Trussell called me up. | ||
He's like, Dude! | ||
I found the best! | ||
Almond milk! | ||
It's so amazing! | ||
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Tastes so good! | |
It's good for you! | ||
It's over now! | ||
I go, how's it taste good? | ||
He goes, it's delicious! | ||
I go, ooh, did you check to see how much sugar is in it? | ||
And so we did it on the phone, and it was just some stupid amount. | ||
And it was for only like a little baby glass that you know you're not going to have. | ||
You know you're going to have a big glass. | ||
I know if something tastes good, it has sugar. | ||
That's my biggest problem. | ||
That's my sugar by five. | ||
We're sweet tooth, man. | ||
Sometimes I wonder why I work out so hard so I can't eat like shit. | ||
Do you want some mangoes with chili on them right now? | ||
I'm never mad at that. | ||
Jamie, where are those? | ||
Like fresh mangoes? | ||
No, no, no. | ||
Like dried mangoes? | ||
This is my problem lately. | ||
I have an issue. | ||
Mango sticky rice, baby. | ||
I have an issue. | ||
I'm avoiding sugar, and my number one issue is these fucking Trader Joe's mangoes with chili on them. | ||
I know it's got sugar in it. | ||
I don't even want to read the label. | ||
I'm addicted to sugar, bro. | ||
These things right here? | ||
Dude. | ||
Do you like those, Eddie? | ||
I haven't had those. | ||
Oh, get Eddie one of those, too, please. | ||
Well, because I'm Mexican? | ||
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Yes. | |
Yeah. | ||
This shit is delicious. | ||
Who makes this one? | ||
No cholesterol. | ||
I know it's got sugar in it, dude. | ||
What does it say on the back? | ||
It's almost like it's so good, it's like, let's figure out what it doesn't have and then put that free, you know, cholesterol free. | ||
Doesn't it have cholesterol? | ||
Okay, cholesterol free. | ||
Well, yeah. | ||
Of course there's no cholesterol in it. | ||
That's silly. | ||
No lead. | ||
Lead free. | ||
No nuclear energy. | ||
Non-mercury. | ||
That's hilarious. | ||
No mangoes have mercury. | ||
No mangoes have cholesterol. | ||
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Like, what are you using, butter to make your mangoes? | |
Cholesterol free. | ||
That's so stupid. | ||
It's gluten free. | ||
It better be. | ||
Shit. | ||
If it's made out of bread, then it's not really a mango, you fuck. | ||
Eddie Bravo opening it up. | ||
Chico Camus, Horiguchi. | ||
Horiguchi's first fight since he lost to Mighty Mouse. | ||
Could be very interesting. | ||
Horiguchi's fast as shit, too. | ||
And Chico Camus is pretty slick. | ||
I thought Chico Camus looked real good in his, uh, how much? | ||
You reading sugar intake? | ||
The first ingredient is mango. | ||
Second ingredient is sugar? | ||
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Sugar. | |
Fuckers. | ||
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They didn't even try to hide it by saying, hide, food, toast, corn, serve. | |
Say, fuck it. | ||
Just let them have it. | ||
I wonder if one's better for you. | ||
Haraguchi, dude. | ||
Haraguchi's fighting Chico Camus. | ||
I forgot about this fight. | ||
This is a good-ass fight. | ||
I thought Chico Camus looked really good against your boy Henry Cejudo. | ||
That was a great fight. | ||
How bad? | ||
Cejudo's a bad motherfucker. | ||
How bad are artificial sweeteners when soda companies advertise we use real sugar? | ||
How bad is aspartame? | ||
Jesus Christ. | ||
At this point in time, that's all people want, man. | ||
I'm addicted to it, bro. | ||
I'm addicted to it. | ||
You want real sugar? | ||
Yeah, people want real sugar now, man. | ||
They feel like it's too risky to get involved with aspartame. | ||
All of it's bad for you, dude. | ||
The reality is you're only supposed to get sugar from actual foods. | ||
Like sugar from fruits, sugar from apples, you know, sugar from things that taste sweet. | ||
That's how you're supposed to get your sugar. | ||
Like this creepy way that we've got of like sucking all the sugar out and stockpiling it and then injecting it directly into our bloodstream in the form of candy. | ||
Like that is, that's a drug. | ||
Oh, it's beautiful. | ||
And it's... | ||
And it's completely alien to our system. | ||
I feel great, though. | ||
But you know who needs it, apparently, is those super triathletes and marathon runners and shit? | ||
They need sugar, dude. | ||
They say people who are real explosive need it. | ||
Oh, really? | ||
I hear about that. | ||
I don't want to be explosive. | ||
Well, who's that guy that was... | ||
It's only a body type. | ||
Who's the guy that was fighting MMA? He fought Tim Sylvia. | ||
Tim Sylvia beat the fucking shit out of him. | ||
He was the world's strongest man. | ||
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No, no, no. | |
Ray Mercer. | ||
No, no. | ||
Hold. | ||
What's his name? | ||
Hold. | ||
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Fuck. | |
Starts with a P. I can't remember his name. | ||
He's from Poland, right? | ||
Puginowski! | ||
Thank you very much. | ||
Real meathead. | ||
Oh, he's the biggest of big. | ||
He's a giant dude. | ||
Ten-time World's Strongest Man contest. | ||
Super powerful dude. | ||
And he eats a lot of candy, apparently. | ||
Yeah, a big part of his training. | ||
But I guess he's just blowing his sugar levels out of his muscles so much. | ||
When you're on so much steroids, though, it doesn't fucking matter. | ||
Do you remember that real buff guy that was the mascot for King of the Cage? | ||
He was a huge bodybuilder, so they would use him for in-between shots of fights. | ||
Why don't you explain how crazy that was? | ||
So I was there when he had a photo shoot because I had to do a photo thing because I was a commentator. | ||
So they were going to knock out a bunch of photo shoots. | ||
And he's sitting there in the waiting room with a gigantic bag of Skittles. | ||
Killing Skittles. | ||
And he said, to get the biggest pump, you need sugar running through your veins to get the biggest pump. | ||
Wow. | ||
Sugar. | ||
I don't know. | ||
He was eating Skittles right before this photo shoot. | ||
Sugar makes the world go round, man. | ||
These dudes that lift that much weight, I think they just blow their sugar out of their body. | ||
I think their requirements are just so high. | ||
But how crazy was that King of the Cage thing? | ||
Because the whole thing was they had these MMA fights. | ||
And then they had this guy that was supposed to be the king of the cage. | ||
And the guy who was supposed to be the king of the cage was just an actor or a bodybuilder. | ||
He did Jiu Jitsu. | ||
But he wasn't fighting. | ||
No. | ||
He wasn't the king. | ||
It wasn't like he was the guy that was at the top of the heap. | ||
He was the guy that locked the cage before the fights. | ||
Yeah, but it wasn't his organization. | ||
He was just a guy that Terry and Bud hired. | ||
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This guy's awesome. | |
The whole thing was very strange. | ||
What it was is Boz Rutten owned, he was part owner, right, in the first one. | ||
So the logo was like Boz Rutten buff with a bald guy. | ||
So when Boz Rutten bolted from King of the Cage, they kept the logo, but then they just turned it into a real dude. | ||
That's hilarious. | ||
Bro, these things are a motherfucker. | ||
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They're so good, right? | |
I'm gonna eat this entire bag. | ||
Of course you are. | ||
I told you, this is my problem right now. | ||
Bro, I think my mom had, like, maple syrup in her titties when I was young. | ||
Straight up, man. | ||
I cannot get enough of it. | ||
Oh, that's so silly. | ||
Meanwhile, this is a good fight. | ||
Chico Camus and Haraguchi. | ||
I'm not gonna lie to you guys, I haven't watched one single fight. | ||
Haraguchi's fast as fuck, man. | ||
How do you guys remember these? | ||
I'm sitting here listening to you guys talk about fights, and I feel like I'm not a real fan. | ||
I feel like I'm a poser. | ||
No, you're a real fan, but you're running a hundred fucking jiu-jitsu schools. | ||
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Still, but you're... | |
100 times more busy than I am, and so are you. | ||
I'm not that busy. | ||
Yeah, but this is my job, Eddie. | ||
That's part of our job. | ||
I mean, my job, especially, I'm the commentator for the UFC. I mean, I'm supposed to be in Japan right now. | ||
There's no way you can have all that information about all these fights and fighters and what happened in these fights in the second round and the third fucking round and all that shit unless you watch him again. | ||
Well, that's why he's the best in the world. | ||
Unless you have a photographic memory. | ||
You watch the UFC twice. | ||
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It depends on the fight. | |
You watch him twice. | ||
It depends on the fight. | ||
You know too much, dude. | ||
You have no time for shit. | ||
He doesn't sleep, though. | ||
No wonder you haven't watched Narcos yet. | ||
I just remember them, dude. | ||
It's a different thing when you're calling fights, especially. | ||
When you're calling fights, you remember more. | ||
That makes sense. | ||
Dude, you know who fights tonight? | ||
Dante Wilder. | ||
Heavyweight champion. | ||
I think your memory is extraordinary. | ||
That's what I really think. | ||
You and Brent. | ||
You watch fights twice. | ||
Are you watching all day? | ||
You wake up and I gotta watch fights. | ||
When do you watch these fights? | ||
As a comedian, your memory's too good. | ||
You have to have a good memory to be a comic. | ||
To do an hour-long set and to do a new hour-long set every year or so. | ||
You gotta change it up. | ||
You have to remember old shit. | ||
You have to remember new shit. | ||
You have to be able to memorize things. | ||
You have to. | ||
You're super talented. | ||
Can I ask you something? | ||
How do you deal with your children farting? | ||
Do you laugh at that? | ||
Do you laugh at the farts? | ||
Yeah, I think it's hilarious. | ||
The five-year-old has figured out it's hilarious though now. | ||
It's trouble. | ||
She won't stop farting. | ||
So my wife gets bummed out, and I think it's hilarious, so I'm laughing. | ||
So there's no cooperation. | ||
So the five-year-old the other day, she's in bed reading stories. | ||
She grabs the back of her knees, rolls her butt back in the air, and blasts one up in the air. | ||
You start laughing? | ||
I'm fucking howling. | ||
I think it's hilarious. | ||
That's tough, bro. | ||
But your wife doesn't think it's funny. | ||
It's absolutely funny. | ||
She doesn't think I should necessarily encourage it. | ||
She says, you shouldn't fart. | ||
And I'll say, hey, all right, you got to stop farting. | ||
But the problem is... | ||
In my house, laughter is valued very, very, very heavily. | ||
For sure, yeah. | ||
In my house, it's always laughter. | ||
Hell yeah. | ||
We laugh about everything, and we joke around about stuff all the time, and we're always like, if something goes wrong, even if something goes wrong, they do something that they shouldn't do, there's always some laughter involved. | ||
For sure. | ||
Always. | ||
So when she finds out that she can make us fucking howl laughing by sticking her butt in the air, They just start doing stuff, man. | ||
They think it's funny. | ||
Here's the argument, Joe. | ||
Don't you want her to be ladylike, though? | ||
She goes to middle school and starts ripping farts. | ||
You got the shitty girl in school. | ||
I want her to be a nice person, and I want her to be however she wants to be as long as she interacts with people. | ||
What if she farts in class? | ||
She can't be ripping farts in school. | ||
Listen, bro. | ||
Do you rip farts in school completely? | ||
No! | ||
Exactly. | ||
But when you're at your house and someone says, alright, you can't rip those farts when you're in the teacher's office. | ||
All you have to do is teach the kid when to fart and when not to fart. | ||
That's why I think also teach them about swearing. | ||
Don't keep swearing from them. | ||
Just tell them. | ||
Notice, when daddy talks to the guy at the Lexus dealership, notice how daddy doesn't use the word cunt. | ||
Yeah, because cunts, you can't say cunt to the Lexus guy. | ||
You know, you gotta know when to be appropriate and when not to be appropriate. | ||
But don't, because you don't want them figuring it out through other people, you know? | ||
Why should you hide anything from your kids? | ||
If you think that it's okay to use certain words, you should use those words in front of your kids. | ||
But you should use them when you think they're able to discern when to and when not to use them. | ||
So I don't swear. | ||
Very rarely do I accidentally fuck up and swear in front of the kids. | ||
So you try not to? | ||
Try not to. | ||
Okay. | ||
But as time goes on, I will absolutely start swearing more. | ||
Not yet. | ||
Not yet, though. | ||
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When they're older. | |
I let little ones in. | ||
Every now and then. | ||
On accident? | ||
No, on accident, but sometimes not. | ||
Sometimes not on accident. | ||
What kind of swear word are we talking to here? | ||
Not bad. | ||
Like occasional fuck and every now and then a shit. | ||
That's not bad. | ||
But even the fuck, it's like, Jesus. | ||
Have they repeated it yet? | ||
No. | ||
No, but the shit one, when the little one was three, this was hilarious, dude. | ||
We were skiing, and we put all our stuff in the bag we were leaving, and she forgot to pack her helmet. | ||
And I go, honey, you forgot to put your helmet in there. | ||
And she goes, shit. | ||
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Shit. | |
That's funny. | ||
My wife just bit her hand. | ||
She turned away. | ||
She didn't want to laugh. | ||
And I went, oh, snap. | ||
And I turned and looked away. | ||
I'm like, she didn't know how funny it was. | ||
To her, it was like just a normal man. | ||
Oh, shit. | ||
That's great. | ||
But to hear a three-year-old say, oh, shit. | ||
What's weird is around my wife, she doesn't laugh. | ||
She doesn't want to encourage laughter. | ||
She's trying to teach him to be proper. | ||
But around me, he knows he could fart, and I'll laugh. | ||
And if it's just me and him, I'll fart. | ||
He'll fart. | ||
We're farting back and forth. | ||
We're high-fiving each other with farts. | ||
But then when mom's around, we're in the bathroom, and then he farts, I gotta hold it in. | ||
And he's looking at me, and I gotta keep a straight face. | ||
He's like, don't throw me under the bus over here! | ||
And I'm like, I don't want to hear it from her. | ||
And then she's looking at me, knowing that I'm holding it in. | ||
Oh, that's so funny. | ||
He feels so confident around me. | ||
Like, when Daddy's around, he could just blow those... | ||
So that's a problem that we're having right now. | ||
He looks identical. | ||
We're having a... | ||
That's so funny. | ||
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We're having a fart problem at the whole house. | |
Listen, man, I mean, I think if you can't hold him in, it's like, it's a nice thing to do. | ||
It's kind of rude to fart on people. | ||
But you know what? | ||
It's hard enough holding my farts in... | ||
It's hard enough holding my farts in around my wife. | ||
I have to hold... | ||
I don't want to fart around her. | ||
She doesn't want me to fart. | ||
But I'm not going to hold my farts in around my son, too. | ||
That's like having two wives. | ||
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It's tough. | |
You know what I mean? | ||
Around my son, he's going to get it. | ||
I am not holding shit in. | ||
I'm going to blow fucking ass around him. | ||
Another headline in the OG. Eddie Bravo farts around son, holds it around wife. | ||
It's hard enough around the wife. | ||
Oh, dude. | ||
Horiguchi just tagged Camus. | ||
This is a great scrap, man. | ||
We're missing out on an amazing fight. | ||
I feel like all the fights have been crazy. | ||
They haven't. | ||
We're just talking about... | ||
Farts. | ||
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Rhinos. | |
We're talking about an octopus for a solid hour. | ||
Animals and shit. | ||
Headline. | ||
Octopus farts. | ||
And I said before this podcast that this podcast would not be a regular podcast, but it kind of is. | ||
It's not a fight companion podcast. | ||
That's the big lie. | ||
Yeah. | ||
We're barely talking about fights. | ||
People talk shit. | ||
We don't even talk about fights. | ||
We haven't seen each other in a while, folks. | ||
I know, man. | ||
It's fun. | ||
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It's the best. | |
I fucking hate these things. | ||
Yeah, people do get mad. | ||
But you don't have to listen. | ||
For the most part, it's all positive. | ||
Chico Camus looks super good in this fight, as does Horiguchi. | ||
They're all tagging each other. | ||
Horiguchi's got that crazy wide stance. | ||
What time is it over there in Japan right now? | ||
Does anyone know? | ||
It's 11 a.m. | ||
Yes, it started early for our viewing pleasure. | ||
Dude, big right hand there by Horaguchi. | ||
This is 11 a.m. | ||
now, Eddie? | ||
Something like that. | ||
So they probably started at like 9 or something? | ||
If you're on those prelims, you're waking up early. | ||
Do you adjust? | ||
You must adjust way in advance. | ||
Dude, I saw your Instagram. | ||
You're doing jiu-jitsu at 7 in the morning. | ||
What the fuck's up with that? | ||
That's how I roll, man. | ||
What time do you wake up? | ||
He really just gets up at 7 and takes a photo and puts it up of the night before his training. | ||
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We rolled the night before, yeah. | |
It's like 7 in the morning, you can't sleep. | ||
I usually wake up early, man. | ||
I usually wake up early. | ||
You do jujitsu at 7 in the morning? | ||
Yeah. | ||
Jesus, you're one of those dudes. | ||
A lot of guys like that, man. | ||
That's mid-sleep. | ||
Doesn't your boy down in San Diego... | ||
Boogie, yeah. | ||
Doesn't Boogie have a 6am or 6.30am fast? | ||
I think he switched it up, though. | ||
I think he finally broke down. | ||
I think he doesn't do that anymore. | ||
That's 6am jujitsu. | ||
But there are people. | ||
Thank God there are people like you. | ||
I follow Boogie on Instagram. | ||
Boogie woogie. | ||
I'm not trying to do too much shit. | ||
I'm not trying to do too much shit at 7 a.m. | ||
I like that though, man. | ||
I like to get a good workout in the morning. | ||
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Me too. | |
I feel good. | ||
What time do you wake up these days? | ||
Depends. | ||
If I have to take the kids to school, you know, depends. | ||
But a lot of times, I'll take like 8 o'clock yoga class. | ||
Really? | ||
Yeah. | ||
God, I really want to start doing yoga, man. | ||
I just can't. | ||
I don't know. | ||
I'm being lazy when it comes to yoga. | ||
I'm getting very close to being able to do jiu-jitsu again. | ||
My shoulder's not bothering me anymore. | ||
I'm going to get another MRI to get it looked at. | ||
But ever since the... | ||
Is this Deontay Wilder? | ||
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Yes. | |
Is this the highlights? | ||
Is the fight over already? | ||
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Yeah. | |
Oh, Wilder got fucked up, dude. | ||
Who's Deontay? | ||
He had some big fucking black eyes, man. | ||
Look at his eye. | ||
Holy shit. | ||
Shit. | ||
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Boom. | |
Oh, my God. | ||
Wilder cracked. | ||
Oh, my God. | ||
He got cracked. | ||
Dude, crazy story. | ||
What about Wilder? | ||
Is this a decision win? | ||
Was it a decision? | ||
11th round TKO? He stopped him in the 11th round? | ||
Deontay's for real. | ||
Deontay's a fucking monster, man. | ||
He hasn't been fighting that long. | ||
I got recorded. | ||
I'm going to see that one. | ||
I love watching him fight. | ||
Wow, he got a serious fucking black eye. | ||
I fucked up. | ||
I didn't record it, goddammit. | ||
I don't miss some NBC boxing. | ||
Wasn't there another fight on tonight? | ||
Isn't there another boxing match on tonight? | ||
Is there something on HBO tonight as well? | ||
I don't know. | ||
I just know this was the big one. | ||
He has a crazy story though. | ||
He trained for like three years and that fool's on the Olympic team. | ||
It's crazy. | ||
Yeah, he's getting better too all the time. | ||
You know, he was It's really interesting. | ||
He was one of the guys that was in line for Tyson Fury. | ||
Tyson Fury, they offered him this fight, and instead he took the Vladimir Klitschko fight, and Vladimir fucked his calf up. | ||
I know, postponed, right? | ||
Yeah, now he's, you know, he's shit out of luck. | ||
But Wilder's smart, you know, not taking a fight with Klitschko yet. | ||
He's not ready for that. | ||
Well, he's just, you know, he's getting ready, and Klitschko is... | ||
Getting older. | ||
Unless he's doing drugs... | ||
You know, that's the thing. | ||
And I'm not saying that he is, but I'm not saying that he isn't. | ||
I agree. | ||
He's 39 years old. | ||
He looks fucking amazing. | ||
And I just, I don't know. | ||
I don't know who's doing what. | ||
You can't speculate. | ||
But this is the reason for bringing it up, though. | ||
Because if he is doing drugs, he can keep that high level for a much longer time. | ||
Especially at heavyweight. | ||
Yeah. | ||
If he's not doing drugs, you've got to wonder how much time he has left. | ||
I agree. | ||
At 39 years of age, the wheels can fall off at any moment. | ||
That guy has hundreds of fights. | ||
You have to think about his amateur career and his pro career. | ||
I think he's like 63 and 3 or some shit like that. | ||
Well, his brother was a competitive kickboxer, and I think he was too. | ||
I want to say he was a kickboxer. | ||
I thought they were just boxing. | ||
No, no, no. | ||
Was there kickboxing too? | ||
Yeah, his brother fought PKA karate style, above the waist kickboxing. | ||
Jesus. | ||
With the crazy long pants on. | ||
He must have been a motherfucker. | ||
Yeah, he was a bad motherfucker. | ||
He actually got knocked out in kickboxing, like that PKA karate style. | ||
I forget who he fought, but he fought some guy who was... | ||
I feel like he got knocked out by a kick. | ||
Look up Vitaly Klitschko gets KO'd. | ||
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Thanks, boss. | |
Dude, I love watching Klitschko's fight. | ||
I don't miss one. | ||
He was an animal, man. | ||
When he was at his best, I watched the Shannon Briggs fight the other day. | ||
Him and Shannon Briggs. | ||
Ooh, what a war. | ||
Jesus Christ, you guys keep up with boxing and UFC? Well, that- boxing's great right now. | ||
We talked about- I talked about Shannon Briggs on the podcast recently. | ||
Shannon Briggs, I went back and forth with him on Instagram now. | ||
About what? | ||
A couple times. | ||
Because he's awesome, man. | ||
Every video he does, he- is this Klitschko gets knocked out? | ||
Shannon Briggs has these motivational videos on Instagram. | ||
You gotta follow his Instagram. | ||
Because he's always like, let's go champ! | ||
Let's go champ! | ||
Oh, talking shit to Vladimir, right? | ||
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Trying to get a fight? | |
Not just talking shit to Vladimir, but talking positive shit like, come on champ! | ||
You gotta put away them sodas, champ! | ||
You gotta drink water, champ! | ||
You gotta be healthy, champ! | ||
You gotta get up early, champ! | ||
Can't be staying out late partying, champ! | ||
And everything is like, let's go champ! | ||
Oh, it's great. | ||
It's hilarious. | ||
But he's funny when he does it, too. | ||
Like, he's laughing and cracking jokes, but... | ||
Was he the cat trying to get the fight with Vladimir? | ||
And he was like, Vladimir was on the boat. | ||
Will you eat, I eat, champ? | ||
Will you eat, I eat? | ||
He ate his food. | ||
Yeah, man. | ||
Vladimir threw some water on him. | ||
He's trying to hype up a fight, man. | ||
It just never happened. | ||
Well, it might happen now. | ||
It might happen now. | ||
You think? | ||
Yes. | ||
It's very possible it'll happen now because Briggs just won. | ||
He just knocked out his opponent, I want to say in the second round, but he looked real good, dude. | ||
I mean, I don't know who the dude was that he fought, but he looked sharp, and it was impressive. | ||
And he's got a big following on social media, like Snoop Dogg made this video where he was smoking weed, and Snoop was like, take a big puff, let's go champ, I'm fucking with you champ, I'm out here for you champ, I'm smoking this joint for you champ. | ||
It's hilarious. | ||
Getting that support. | ||
Well, he's like, it's super positive, like all the stuff that he does is very positive. | ||
You see that Snoop Dogg video with Lil Dicky? | ||
Have you ever heard of Lil Dicky? | ||
Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
I heard about it. | ||
No, Lil Dicky, the white guy? | ||
The Jewish rapper? | ||
Yeah, he's great. | ||
He's got that song, Save That Money. | ||
Okay. | ||
And then he did a song. | ||
He's got a bunch of songs. | ||
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He's awesome. | |
He's incredible. | ||
He's like the most incredible rapper ever. | ||
But he did a song with Snoop Dogg and there's a cartoon that goes along with it. | ||
Fucking incredible. | ||
It's called Professional Rapper. | ||
Holy fucking shit. | ||
Him and Snoop Dogg are going back and forth. | ||
Really? | ||
Oh, he's trying to get Snoop Dogg to sign him. | ||
And Snoop's all, why should I sign you? | ||
And dude, it's one of the most brilliant rap songs ever, man. | ||
It's funny as shit. | ||
That's high praise from Eddie Bravo. | ||
Yeah, I was completely floored. | ||
Little Dicky. | ||
Cut to the KO here, will you? | ||
For the love of God. | ||
Watching a 15 minute video of these two guys in long pants throwing shitty kicks. | ||
God damn it. | ||
Not looking good here. | ||
But the dude who's the... | ||
There it is. | ||
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Wheel kick. | |
Boom. | ||
He got wheel kicked in the mug. | ||
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See that again. | |
Can you rewind that? | ||
Back that up again. | ||
See, the dude... | ||
That was Klitschko? | ||
Boom, yup. | ||
That was Vitaly. | ||
He got wheel kicked in the head. | ||
Back it up a little bit further than that. | ||
He started doing contact karate? | ||
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No, no. | |
This was kickboxing. | ||
And this dude... | ||
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With no ring? | |
No, no ring. | ||
But it was above the waist kickboxing. | ||
But the dude starts getting loose with his kicks. | ||
Look at this. | ||
Bang! | ||
That was nasty. | ||
That was nice. | ||
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Whoop. | |
Bam. | ||
I mean, shit happens. | ||
Yeah, anybody who gets hit by that is fucked. | ||
I mean, he's sitting his head up. | ||
How long ago was that? | ||
A long time ago. | ||
By that video, fucking 1987? | ||
It was a long time ago. | ||
Good year. | ||
Well, I think Vitaly's older than Vladimir. | ||
With the date on the bottom and shit. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Vitaly's like a couple years older. | ||
He's older, yeah. | ||
And Vladimir is 39. So that could have been from, you know. | ||
Since 92. There you go. | ||
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All right. | |
That makes sense. | ||
People are just figuring out Muay Thai back then. | ||
They didn't know. | ||
They didn't know that that no kick into the legs is just stupid as fuck. | ||
It took a few guys going over to Thailand. | ||
It took, like, when Rick the Jek Rufus... | ||
Who the fuck did he fight? | ||
He fought some real high-level Thai guy. | ||
Had the guy hurt real bad. | ||
He was not really that high-level. | ||
His record was, like, not impressive at all. | ||
The guy that Rufus fought? | ||
Yeah, he may have been famous and a legend and all that, but looking at his record, he was, like, 13-6 or something like that. | ||
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Oh, really? | |
Yeah, yeah. | ||
Crazy match. | ||
It was one of the first fights that we ever got to see a guy who really knew how to throw leg kicks, though. | ||
Fucked his legs up. | ||
Yeah, he fucked his legs up. | ||
But it was interesting because... | ||
He beat him by leg kicks and they had to put him in a stretcher, Rick Rufus, in a stretcher because he couldn't walk. | ||
And Duke, who gets interviewed after the fight, was like, well, not a lot of skill involved in that. | ||
He just didn't know. | ||
He didn't know any better. | ||
It's kind of funny because now he's like one of the best Muay Thai for MMA coaches in the country. | ||
It's hilarious. | ||
You watch that when his brother got his legs kicked out. | ||
We didn't know then. | ||
No one knew then. | ||
When I first saw UFC 2, I was blown away by hoists. | ||
I was doing karate at the time and to me I was thinking this is probably just primitive ass wrestling. | ||
That's what it looks like. | ||
A real wrestler would fuck him up. | ||
Yeah. | ||
But then I went in and got choked out 37 times and realized, oh shit, it's not primitive wrestling, it's highly advanced wrestling. | ||
I had three big steps going from Taekwondo. | ||
I thought that Taekwondo was the best way to fight stand-up until I started kickboxing. | ||
And I started boxing, just straight boxing with people to get better at kickboxing. | ||
And then I realized, man, Like, my boxing is so far behind these guys, and I thought my hands were so much better than they were. | ||
But at least I have kicks. | ||
And then I started sparring with this kid, this kid named Dana Rosenblatt, who went on to be, like, New England middleweight boxing champion. | ||
Very good boxer. | ||
He fought on Tuesday Night Fights a bunch. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
And you were only boxing with him? | ||
Yeah, yeah. | ||
We did some kickboxing too, but we did a lot of only boxing. | ||
But the point is, he had a friend that was fighting in Thailand. | ||
He had this friend that was crazy. | ||
He would go over to Thailand and fight the Thais. | ||
And he was a real pioneer. | ||
This dude was like one of the first Americans to start going over there training in Thailand and fighting Thailand. | ||
We hadn't really heard about it then. | ||
And so Dana and I were going over some of the techniques and we were talking about some of it. | ||
And we were talking about the elbows and the kicks. | ||
And we were practicing some of it. | ||
And just him hitting me half-assed On the leg, like not trying to hurt me, just him throwing a leg kick and feeling the shin slam into my leg, just like that, just thump. | ||
I remember thinking, oh no, like, oh no, like this is all missing. | ||
I didn't know about this. | ||
Like, how did I not know about this? | ||
Like, this is critical. | ||
And then the clinching and the knees to the body and then the elbows from the clinch, I was like, Jesus Christ, like there's a giant hole missing in all the stand-up. | ||
And then, you know, it never really took off because of that PKA karate shit. | ||
You know, the PKA karate kind of, like, spoiled people to the idea of kickboxing. | ||
I think that, like, Dana White said that. | ||
I think he's right, man. | ||
I think, like, a lot of people in this country that are, like, in our 40s, I mean, we look back on that stuff on TV. If you don't study martial arts, you think of kickboxing as, like, bad Brad Hefton. | ||
Like, with the shiny red shorts, throwing, like, as many, they have to show, like, throw, like, six kicks around. | ||
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Yeah. | |
Otherwise they lose points. | ||
Remember that? | ||
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Yeah. | |
So they would throw these little flippy kicks and they would get in there with some sloppy boxing. | ||
So it was like flippy kicks and sloppy boxing. | ||
And nobody wanted to watch it. | ||
It just wasn't that good. | ||
It wasn't that evolved. | ||
Until Rick Rufus came along and a few guys came along that were real dynamic. | ||
But it never really caught on. | ||
It still hasn't, right? | ||
Like kickboxing here, which I don't get... | ||
Like K1, like Glory, or even... | ||
What did Bellator put on? | ||
What was that? | ||
They put on something called Dynamite that was part kickboxing and part MMA. But here's what I think, though, man. | ||
I think kickboxing's dope, and I like watching it, but you know what's better? | ||
Muay Thai. | ||
Muay Thai's better. | ||
You know, because it's the full fucking arsenal of punching, kicking, elbows, and knees, and the clinch. | ||
I watched the lion fight that was this past weekend. | ||
Yeah. | ||
I enjoyed the shit out of it, dude. | ||
The first fight. | ||
Dream killer Bolanos, did you see that fucking spinning elbow he knocked that dude out with? | ||
No. | ||
Oh my god! | ||
There was two spinning elbow KOs. | ||
Like, dude, elbows are big, man. | ||
It's a big weapon of Muay Thai. | ||
I don't think there's any reason to take that out. | ||
I don't think there's any reason to take elbows out. | ||
I think if organizations like Glory and those, if guys want to just kickbox, let them just kickbox. | ||
But let dudes elbow, man. | ||
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Let them throw knees in the clinch. | |
Aren't they worried about the cuts? | ||
Don't you think so? | ||
I don't know what they're worried about. | ||
Are those shows successful? | ||
What's on AXS TV has a limited exposure. | ||
There's not as many households that have AXS TV. I don't even think on Spike it does well though. | ||
Glory doesn't do that well. | ||
It doesn't do as well as it probably could for whatever reason. | ||
People don't know who these fighters are yet. | ||
It's not like something that people have been accustomed to. | ||
Shit, get your fight kit. | ||
But watching the fucking, the Muay Thai on AXS TV, dude. | ||
I love it. | ||
Nasty. | ||
And this guy, Joe Nottawat, have you ever seen him? | ||
25-year-old Thai guy? | ||
Nasty fucking kicker, dude. | ||
One of the nastiest kickers I've ever seen. | ||
The dude just throws punches to close the distance. | ||
Like his hands are up way high. | ||
Brutal left kick. | ||
Left kick to the body, left kick to just chopping this dude down. | ||
And then once he gets close in on him, he finishes him with actually two elbows to the back of the head. | ||
Jesus. | ||
It's kind of fucked. | ||
He blasts him with one elbow, and then as the guy's going down, he just fucking tomahawks the back of his neck. | ||
I record those lion fights. | ||
I watched the first one. | ||
One guy was like two and one. | ||
One guy, I think it was his pro debut, and they fucking went at it. | ||
Have you seen Janssen Clive? | ||
You see Janssen Clive? | ||
No. | ||
Holy shit, dude. | ||
The lion fight is getting these guys from Thailand that are super high-level Thai fighters, and you're seeing some wild, wild fights because of it. | ||
How much do those guys on Lions Fight make? | ||
Does anyone know? | ||
That's a good question. | ||
Does anyone know? | ||
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That's a good question. | |
Someone asked me last night, and I said, I don't know, fucking $500? | ||
I think that... | ||
The guy who was making his debut, I was like, maybe $1,000? | ||
I was trying to think back to my debut in MMA, maybe $1,000? | ||
I got paid $800? | ||
I think it's the most underappreciated thing going on right now, Lion Fight. | ||
I really do. | ||
Those fucking fights are super high level. | ||
They're so entertaining. | ||
Super exciting. | ||
They're super entertaining. | ||
Wild, wild shit. | ||
People are getting dropped. | ||
Oh my god. | ||
They're getting knocked the fuck out. | ||
They just figured out how to make kickboxing entertaining. | ||
Well, it is Muay Thai. | ||
I think there's a part of the problem with kickboxing is you're able to do this. | ||
You're able to do that Alistair Overeem thing. | ||
Where the gloves come up real high and you just wade in and then they throw kicks and punches. | ||
They kind of trade, right? | ||
Sometimes they do. | ||
And it's, look, at the highest levels, like when you're watching guys like Nicky Holskin and motherfuckers. | ||
I mean, it's fun to watch at the highest level, no doubt. | ||
But I think you should have the other elements. | ||
I think if it's a stand-up fight, those other, if you can shin a guy across the head, okay, can you shin a guy across the head? | ||
It's legal? | ||
Okay, there's no shin pads. | ||
All right, so why can't you elbow him? | ||
Yeah, anything should go. | ||
Why? | ||
Nothing more dangerous than that. | ||
Exactly. | ||
So what are we doing here? | ||
What, are you limiting weapons? | ||
Why would you limit weapons in stand-up? | ||
If you limit weapons in stand-up, then you get an unrealistic sense of the development of kickboxing technique, the development of MMA as far as stand-up striking. | ||
Because the guys at the highest level, if you see a guy like a Kevin Ross or one of these super high-level kickboxer guys, and you see that becomes a standard, and then that standard goes like an Artem Levin or a Joe Schilling. | ||
You see that like high standard of style of kickboxing and that becomes the guys who are fighting in MMA aspire to that level. | ||
True. | ||
I can the higher the level is in kickboxing the higher the level is gonna be in MMA as well. | ||
I think but as soon as you limit certain techniques like you say well they can't throw elbows they can't throw knees well then the then like you're gonna get a distorted perception of it in MMA because in MMA you can do those things. | ||
Yeah. | ||
What are they saying? | ||
What's shut down? | ||
What's the reason for that? | ||
They got a reason. | ||
If a guy was right here, they would say, it's because... | ||
K-1. | ||
That's how K-1 did it. | ||
That's how the Japanese did it. | ||
Everybody followed suit. | ||
What do they think? | ||
I don't know, man. | ||
They're doing it for a reason. | ||
The Japanese do shit for a reason. | ||
I think they think it's more exciting. | ||
By taking away the clinch, you make guys fight more. | ||
They can't clinch up as much. | ||
Because if you watch Muay Thai, a lot of it takes place in the clinch. | ||
They throw nasty elbows to the body, a lot of sweeps. | ||
They trip each other. | ||
Don't you think it's barbaric? | ||
I don't mean to cut you off. | ||
Don't you think it's barbaric, too, like with the elbows? | ||
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I don't know. | |
Especially with the American kind of thing. | ||
Why have it in MMA, then? | ||
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Why is it in MMA? But you can not kick someone in the head. | |
Everything's in MMA, stand-up-wise. | ||
That's in Muay Thai. | ||
Everything. | ||
True. | ||
I'm thinking on the ground. | ||
Well, on the ground, there's that one dumb rule. | ||
That's it. | ||
That rule's so dumb. | ||
But that's it. | ||
The one 12-6 elbow rule. | ||
That rule is ridiculous. | ||
It doesn't make any sense. | ||
The rule, if you don't know what it is, you can't go down from, like, on the clock from 12 o'clock to 6 o'clock with an elbow. | ||
I think it's too dangerous. | ||
It's only because the people that were in the Athletic Commission had seen a guy break a brick with that. | ||
They saw that and they're like, you can't hit someone in the head, they could die. | ||
No 12 to 6 elbows. | ||
So you can't even do it to a thigh, which is hilarious. | ||
Bro, did you see that homeboy, that boxer in Australia died? | ||
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Who? | |
Some... | ||
God, he was... | ||
Whatever, he had like 30-something fights. | ||
He died in... | ||
He got knocked out, didn't wake up. | ||
They took him to the hospital. | ||
He died in the ring. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Doesn't that happen two or three times a year? | ||
No. | ||
I don't think so. | ||
It happens every now and then. | ||
Yeah. | ||
This was the last one. | ||
Someone tweeted it to me. | ||
I thought they tweeted it to you, too. | ||
I thought you looked at it. | ||
I might have. | ||
It just happens, you know? | ||
It's a part of boxing. | ||
It's a scary part of boxing. | ||
Bobby Raczak's got this documentary on Gerald McClellan. | ||
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He did a little doc on him. | |
That's a crazy story, man. | ||
Yeah. | ||
I saw that fight live. | ||
Not live. | ||
What happened? | ||
Nigel Benn and Gerald McClellan. | ||
After that fight... | ||
Do you know who Gerald McClellan is? | ||
I don't. | ||
He was awesome. | ||
Yeah. | ||
At one point in time, he was one of the scariest boxers alive, and they were thinking that he would be next in line to fight Roy Jones. | ||
They were looking at Roy Jones, and Roy Jones was coming up, and after he'd beaten James Toney, Gerald McClellan was like a destroyer, just smashing everybody. | ||
But he used to cut a lot of weight, man. | ||
He cut a lot of weight. | ||
And back in those days, I think you had to weigh in the day of the fight. | ||
And they didn't know anything about IVs. | ||
They didn't know anything about that shit. | ||
And when you do that, you risk your brain, man. | ||
You just do. | ||
That Novitski guy was on here, and he was saying that they think it might take more than 70 hours. | ||
It's just 72 hours, right? | ||
72 hours for your brain to completely recover from being dehydrated like that. | ||
And the crazy thing is most of the deaths in boxing are in the lower weight classes. | ||
They're not in the heavyweight where the guys punch the hardest. | ||
It's in the lower weight classes. | ||
And they think it's because of dehydration. | ||
They think that's a significant factor in a lot of these guys dying and hemorrhaging, getting brain hemorrhages in the ring and dying. | ||
They think dehydration is a significant factor. | ||
So homeboy died. | ||
Well, Jerry McClellan didn't die. | ||
But he was a superstar. | ||
He was a superstar. | ||
He was a world champion. | ||
He was on the rise. | ||
And he hurt Nigel Benn bad. | ||
Knocked him through the ropes. | ||
Okay. | ||
But Nigel Benn was a bad motherfucker. | ||
Nigel Benn fought with Afrosheen and stuff. | ||
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Yeah. | |
Well, he had dreadlocks. | ||
He had crazy dreadlocks. | ||
And Nigel Benn got back in that ring and was fucking slinging. | ||
And they clashed heads. | ||
And Gerald McClellan went down. | ||
And I think that was when he went to his corner and he just stopped the fight. | ||
I think it was right after a head clash. | ||
But I think he had been hit a couple times. | ||
Nigel Benn had tagged him. | ||
I mean, they were teeing off on each other. | ||
And then there was a big collision of heads. | ||
And Gerald took a knee, I think, and stayed down for the count of eight. | ||
And then I think never got up. | ||
I think sat on a stool and then collapsed. | ||
I'm pretty sure that's how it went. | ||
He didn't die, though? | ||
No. | ||
Why the fuck would they make a documentary of this? | ||
Because he's almost blind. | ||
From that? | ||
Yep. | ||
He's blind. | ||
He can't talk. | ||
He barely talks. | ||
He barely remembers anything about his career. | ||
He's been taken care of by his sisters. | ||
His body's completely atrophied. | ||
And it's really sad to see, man. | ||
And if you go back before that fight, he was the motherfucker. | ||
You know, he was like one of those guys, like Gennady Golovkin or something like that. | ||
Fuck, I bet he's set from boxing, though, financially. | ||
No, I don't think so, man. | ||
I know, I'm obviously 100% joking. | ||
How dare you. | ||
Fuck, that's a bummer. | ||
I think Roy Jones has done some stuff to help, but apparently a lot of people think that that was what had fucked Roy Jones up early in his career and made him play safe. | ||
Uriah Hall is about to fight Gegard Mousasi. | ||
Eddie, you got Uriah or no? | ||
No, no, I got Mousasi. | ||
Mousasi, very confident. | ||
You want to bet on this one, too? | ||
No, I got Mousasi. | ||
Damn, Mousasi's pressuring him real early, man. | ||
Not scared. | ||
Jesus Christ. | ||
If he gets him down early... | ||
Oh, yeah, this one's not going to last very long. | ||
It's hard to keep him down. | ||
Oh, man, he hurt him, too. | ||
Tagged him with a right hand on the ground and pound. | ||
Mousasi all over Uriah Hall. | ||
Mousasi's a motherfucker, man. | ||
What are the arm bars? | ||
Oh, Jesus. | ||
Big left hand. | ||
Jesus Christ, Mousasi's all over him. | ||
Super aggressive. | ||
Musashi's got some nasty ground to pound. | ||
I don't know how good Uriah Hall's guard is. | ||
How good is his guard? | ||
You gotta have a good guard. | ||
Musashi's got a high-level ground game, man. | ||
Yeah, if there's a knock on Uriah, it's his ground game. | ||
Oh, shit. | ||
He's getting teed off on. | ||
These are dangerous shots, dude. | ||
This is exactly how you fight Uriah, though. | ||
A lot of pressure. | ||
Don't let him sit back. | ||
Does he work on his guard a lot? | ||
Do you know? | ||
Oh, no. | ||
Not from what I saw. | ||
Who's his main trainer right now? | ||
It's the guy who was training Chael, right? | ||
Yeah, that black guy. | ||
What is his name? | ||
I forget. | ||
Racist. | ||
Look at that. | ||
See how he just... | ||
See that footwork? | ||
He's about to crucifix him here and go to work with elbows and they're going to stop at TKL. It's going to be too much for him. | ||
Oh, man. | ||
It's too much. | ||
He's got a frame up with that left arm. | ||
Musashi said, why don't you fly all the way to Japan? | ||
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Oh! | |
Nice explosh. | ||
You know what? | ||
He keeps the presh. | ||
Look at that. | ||
The presh. | ||
He can't get back up. | ||
Such a smart fighter, man. | ||
You look at the guys he's beat. | ||
Jacare, Hector Lombard. | ||
Henderson. | ||
Such a list, man. | ||
Look at that big elbow. | ||
Oh, Jesus Christ. | ||
His ground and pound's fucking ferocious and it's intelligent too. | ||
He does a real good job. | ||
Smart fighter, man. | ||
Oh, shit! | ||
That was a big elbow. | ||
The amount of shots that he gets in versus attempted is very high. | ||
He's gonna break your ass. | ||
He knows when he can tee off on you and when he can't. | ||
If you look at his percentage of landing ground and pound strikes, he's pretty high. | ||
Dude, look at the arm triangle. | ||
Oh, shit. | ||
Arm triangle's gonna pass higher. | ||
It's over, sorry. | ||
Does Uriah Hall know to hold on to that guard? | ||
Well, his hands caught it and he doesn't have it. | ||
He's fine. | ||
Yeah, he's fine. | ||
No, he's fine right now. | ||
Left hand. | ||
But you know what? | ||
Back now, look at this crucifix. | ||
It's a crucifix. | ||
I tell you what, man. | ||
Oh, he's got that left leg trapped. | ||
Oh, look at this. | ||
Uriah can still explode a little. | ||
He can explode a little. | ||
But he doesn't have the confidence to try to get up here. | ||
No, he's going to be worn out. | ||
He's got double underhooks. | ||
He's got half guard and double underhooks. | ||
He just doesn't have the seat set to get up and use it. | ||
It's a reverse half guard. | ||
Yeah, it is. | ||
On the other side. | ||
Hang on to that head. | ||
Isn't that funny, Eddie? | ||
He would have to have his head on the right-hand side for it to be more effective. | ||
On his right-hand side. | ||
On his. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Full mount. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Tell you what, that's a long-ass flight back home to the U.S. from Japan. | ||
Oh, look at that mount escape. | ||
Look at that. | ||
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Nice. | |
It attacks with a leg. | ||
That was a very nice mount escape, and this is some good swamp walking by... | ||
I know you're at Holes working his jiu-jitsu with Jason Manley, who's a fucking monster. | ||
Leg monster. | ||
Really? | ||
Well, that's not bad right there. | ||
Not good. | ||
At least he's attempting to get out of that position. | ||
Yeah, at least he got out of the mount. | ||
He's going for the leg again. | ||
There's hope now. | ||
He's trying to go for the leg again. | ||
He's just way, way shallow. | ||
He's working with Manley, though. | ||
He's way shallow, though. | ||
He's got to let go of that leg right now. | ||
But he's going to give up his back and go for it. | ||
Look, he's going back to it. | ||
Oh, backing his guard again, though. | ||
But Kegar is smart. | ||
He didn't play the game right there. | ||
He just said, well, I'll just wind up in your guard again. | ||
Such a smart fighter. | ||
Yeah, and he knows how to pass professionally. | ||
Not to mention... | ||
That's not a good defense of the pass either by Uriah. | ||
But he doesn't have it. | ||
He doesn't have it. | ||
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Oh, shit! | |
Look at that, son! | ||
Oh! | ||
Uriah turns it around! | ||
Holy shit! | ||
That's some Jason Manley shit, man. | ||
I'm telling you, that's Jason Manley's stuff. | ||
You must know. | ||
Because the way he did it from having no fucking control of the legs at all, that's classic. | ||
That's what Jason Manley teaches. | ||
But isn't that a classic defense? | ||
Yeah, Jason Manley's really good at rolling Kimuras. | ||
He explodes to Kimuras. | ||
That's the classic, right? | ||
The overcommitment for the Kimura, and then there's a spinning far side arm bar counter. | ||
He's so good at it. | ||
George St. Pierre and Matt Hughes, right? | ||
Yeah. | ||
Yeah, but he initiated the Kimura, Uriah Hall. | ||
And Mousasi thought about spinning it on him, but he spun back on him. | ||
Yeah, look at this. | ||
Look at this. | ||
Mount and then back control. | ||
45 sec to go. | ||
Not good for you to be in this position. | ||
If you're fighting Uriah, you want to take away his explosiveness. | ||
This is doing it. | ||
It is. | ||
Let's see how good his defense is from here. | ||
There he goes. | ||
Body triangle now. | ||
Wear him out with that body training, son. | ||
He's got to get him down again. | ||
I mean, this balance is going to be over. | ||
He's going to survive. | ||
Can he take him down again? | ||
I mean... | ||
He took him down pretty easily. | ||
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Motherfucker! | |
It's over. | ||
He's got it. | ||
He's got it locked in there. | ||
He's got it locked in there. | ||
He's got the hand on him, son! | ||
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Oh, yeah! | |
I thought it was over. | ||
You see how he just snatched it? | ||
13 seconds. | ||
He lulled him to sleep, and then he just snatched that thing. | ||
I don't want him to tap, man. | ||
Me neither. | ||
I want this to continue. | ||
He got it. | ||
He got it. | ||
You're right. | ||
Let him break your jaw. | ||
Woo! | ||
That was awesome. | ||
How great is a fight when you want to see the... | ||
Don't tap. | ||
No, no, no, don't tap. | ||
I want to see it keep going. | ||
But that was pretty slick. | ||
He came out like a motherfucker. | ||
Slick rear naked, man. | ||
Very slick. | ||
Look, octopus. | ||
You know, is it funny that they have this commercial, this fucking monster from the swamp, the Kraken or something, kills these dudes? | ||
How much different is that than an alligator? | ||
They see those bitches all the time. | ||
Dude, alligators are stupid as fuck. | ||
It's scarier when they're smart, dude. | ||
Nothing's scarier than octopus. | ||
That's true. | ||
That's a B movie right there. | ||
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Any problem? | |
That's some scary Nightmare on Elm Street octopus movie that comes out of the water. | ||
They can come out at night. | ||
They can stay out for 30 minutes. | ||
Dude, I saw some gnarly ass crocodiles in Costa Rica, man. | ||
And if it's raining, oh shit, if it's raining, that giant killer octopus can fucking track you down up the mountains. | ||
It can hide in trees and shit. | ||
Think about that. | ||
Do you ever see the octopus that climbs out of the fish tank and goes across the floor? | ||
It happens all the goddamn time. | ||
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There's a million videos on YouTube of that shit. | |
It's incredible how many octopus videos there are on YouTube. | ||
Round two, baby. | ||
Round two. | ||
So, here's the question. | ||
The first round, clear to Gegard, right? | ||
Total control. | ||
But Uriah... | ||
I mean, can it take him down again? | ||
Yeah, can it take him down again? | ||
I think Uriah's going to be hesitant. | ||
You know, Chael Sonnen took Anderson... | ||
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Oh! | |
Oh, shit! | ||
Oh, shit, son. | ||
Don't stop it. | ||
Don't stop it, yeah. | ||
No, no, don't stop it. | ||
Don't stop it, you dumb motherfucker. | ||
That's Gegard. | ||
Oh, he's getting smashed. | ||
Oh, shit! | ||
You gotta stop it now. | ||
Holy fuck! | ||
Dude, he landed that spinning kick. | ||
Oh my goodness. | ||
See, this is what I was saying before the fight, that this guy has moments where his movement... | ||
Damn, he got you in that discussion. | ||
His movement is so extraordinary. | ||
You were saying the best things. | ||
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You were. | |
You were saying all the right things. | ||
Meanwhile, you were right in the first round. | ||
In the first round, you were perfectly right. | ||
He really did what you thought he would do in the first round. | ||
That's how you fight him. | ||
Super high level. | ||
Chael Sonnen took Anderson Silva down the first round. | ||
He was all over him. | ||
And I thought, man, can he do that for five rounds? | ||
And he couldn't. | ||
Here's the thing. | ||
Could Uriah Hall have the explosiveness left in that second round after getting mauled in the first, too? | ||
Look at this. | ||
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Boom! | |
Spinning back kick to the fucking mud and flying knee. | ||
Come on, son. | ||
See, like I'm saying, man, what I'm saying about, look at that movement. | ||
When you see, they're probably going to show it one more time, but look how there's no fat in that movement. | ||
The way he throws this, watch this. | ||
Dude, you don't see that coming. | ||
There's no give. | ||
You can't train for that. | ||
You can train to never be close while he's doing something. | ||
That timing's tough. | ||
His speed is so good, dude. | ||
That'll be a highlight. | ||
Forever. | ||
Mousasi's a legend. | ||
This is a legit stoppage, man. | ||
This is a legit stoppage. | ||
I know Mousasi would probably say it's not, but he's not doing anything right there. | ||
You gotta give it to him, man. | ||
What a win for Uriah. | ||
Holy balls. | ||
That was spectacular. | ||
That was amazing. | ||
See, and that's kind of what I meant. | ||
That's kind of what I meant when I'm talking about what he can do in moments. | ||
That's exactly what you meant. | ||
That's exactly what I meant. | ||
Well, if Uriah gets off-season enough confidence from this, good luck the next guy fights. | ||
What do you go from side with Brendan? | ||
I'm like, Brendan's making all the valid points here. | ||
But you were right. | ||
We were both wrong. | ||
But meanwhile, he did threaten off his back in the first round with that armbar, so you know that he is working on his jiu-jitsu. | ||
He's 100% working on his jiu-jitsu. | ||
Because that was pretty slick, the way he set that up. | ||
And he caught Musashi off guard. | ||
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Musashi didn't know that. | |
With a high-level coach, too. | ||
Jason Manley's a monster. | ||
Well, I've been around guys like that before. | ||
These guys who can pull off those wild spinning techniques like from the Taekwondo days. | ||
Yeah. | ||
And I know like what a high level looks like. | ||
And his is a super high level, man. | ||
And he's just so physically sharp. | ||
Like he's so fast. | ||
Like once he gets the technique down, and he obviously has it down perfect, he can pull the trigger faster than almost anybody you're going to bring in to imitate him. | ||
There's really only one knock on your eye. | ||
It's always been his mental state. | ||
Right. | ||
And that win over Musashi is fucking enormous. | ||
Giant. | ||
And especially a stoppage win. | ||
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What? | |
Jump spinning back kick to the face. | ||
Especially after coming back for that first round, right? | ||
Got destroyed. | ||
Couldn't go any worse. | ||
People learn the mental game. | ||
The mental game can come from experience. | ||
Because I remember Gary Goodridge, back when he first started fighting, his first loss or his second loss, he would tap really quick. | ||
Just from the stinging of the punches on the ground, people would tap to the stinging. | ||
But then by the end of his career, he was kickboxing K-1, taking... | ||
Full-blown shots. | ||
And he learned to survive and take those shots. | ||
Yeah. | ||
No, he did. | ||
And Gary went on to fight some serious fucking contenders in K-1. | ||
He fought some high-level guys in K-1. | ||
And in MMA, too, man. | ||
Gary fought a lot of crazy fights. | ||
Yo, can we please see Uriah Hall and Leona Machida next, or what? | ||
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Ooh. | |
Boom! | ||
Joe Silva, you're welcome. | ||
Or Uriah Hall versus Michael Bisping. | ||
How about that? | ||
Bisping has a fight against Whitaker, and then Anderson Silva wants to fight him after that. | ||
Against Whitaker? | ||
Whitaker in Australia. | ||
So this fight takes Uriah Hall over the top? | ||
Who didn't Robert Whitaker used to fight at? | ||
170, right? | ||
I think so, yeah. | ||
Now he's gonna fight at 185? | ||
In Australia. | ||
Bisping's on that card. | ||
That's interesting. | ||
Interesting, right? | ||
Weird fight for Bisping. | ||
Who's Whitaker lost to? | ||
He got stopped by someone who was like a really good striker. | ||
What was that? | ||
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Pull up Robert Whittaker's record. | |
When Bisbee told me that, we were on set and he told me that, I went, that's an interesting fight for you. | ||
Big, big, big, big, big fucking win for Uriah Hall. | ||
Fuck! | ||
Doesn't get much bigger than that. | ||
Number six in the world? | ||
Y'all put Uriah in the top ten. | ||
Makes Joe Rogan look like he knows what the fuck he's talking about. | ||
Oh, shit. | ||
Whittaker lost to Thompson. | ||
Stephen Thompson, that's the guy. | ||
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Wonderboy. | |
Wonderboy. | ||
He's another one. | ||
When he got more and more comfortable with takedown defense and grappling, and he's spending so much time with Weidman working on his wrestling, then you got to see it in the Ellenberger fight. | ||
You got to see what a motherfucker he is. | ||
Well, they get confident because they're not worried if the fight goes down there anymore. | ||
Exactly. | ||
They're like, ah, if it does go down, then I'm all right. | ||
Well, they know that they can defend, and they also know when they are standing, you can't fuck with Wonderboy, dude. | ||
No one can. | ||
It's also a different style, because just like Uriah Hall, Uriah Hall has more of a karate style than he does a Thai style. | ||
100%. | ||
When he throws round kicks, he throws them without the windup, so they land quicker. | ||
A lot of the Thai guys, they're doing these steps and everything's coming round. | ||
They're chopping, but everything's coming round. | ||
Uriah's throwing shit. | ||
If you don't train with a guy like that, you don't know those movements. | ||
You don't know, oh, if I'm standing this close to him, he can jump, spinning back, kick me in the face quicker than I can get away from him. | ||
It's the Machida effect. | ||
When Machida first came on, guys were like, what the fuck? | ||
He can do more, though. | ||
Machida never did this. | ||
Machida never did that. | ||
He never did that in a fight. | ||
He ate that fucking horse kick to the face. | ||
Machida would throw round kicks and knees and punches, and he did that jumping front kick to Randy. | ||
I'm saying at the time, people haven't seen it. | ||
His movement in and out, and guys couldn't... | ||
They couldn't get the distance and they're getting knocked out. | ||
That's true. | ||
Now with Uriah, I think Gegard thought he was safe and ate a fucking heel to the face. | ||
Dude, I mean, that kind of speed from that distance and the way he does it with no wind-up, man. | ||
He's a crazy athlete. | ||
There's no telegraphing it. | ||
He's a great athlete, but it's also intelligent preparation. | ||
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True. | |
Because to train someone to throw those things on a trigger like that with no wind-up at all, that's the ultimate goal. | ||
It's to have an athlete who's a really good athlete who also listens and trains intelligently to the point where there's no wind-up. | ||
He just jumps and kicks. | ||
Goddamn, what a win. | ||
What a fucking win for him. | ||
Eddie, you could have made your money there, brother. | ||
Was he a Tiger Shulman guy? | ||
Is that where he started? | ||
Yes. | ||
Is it? | ||
Yep. | ||
Amazing. | ||
He's a second-degree black belt, right? | ||
I think so. | ||
You know what's amazing? | ||
Like, Tiger Shulman was like, blam, look at that. | ||
Jesus Christ. | ||
He ducked right into it. | ||
Beautiful. | ||
And then this. | ||
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Nasty. | |
I think Musashi might have thought it was a wheel kick. | ||
Instead, he hit him with that jump-spinning back kick to the face. | ||
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God, dog. | |
Look at this. | ||
Boom! | ||
Oh, my goodness. | ||
That is insane. | ||
And then that knee, dude. | ||
Oh my god. | ||
I think this is how people expected you had a fight coming off the Ultimate Fighter. | ||
Remember when he lost that one fight, there was a little bit of letdown, and then he's just doing work now. | ||
It reminds me of Pele. | ||
Well, you know what, man? | ||
If the fucking fight went the way the first round went, you wouldn't be saying this, which is what's amazing. | ||
You were right, and I was right. | ||
We were both right. | ||
But he figured it out. | ||
He figured it out, man. | ||
He's awfully made adjustments. | ||
Good luck whoever fights him next. | ||
Fuck that. | ||
He's gonna learn from that first round, too, that that could happen to him in the grappling. | ||
So he's gonna have to concentrate on his grappling even more. | ||
He's gonna have to bring it up to another level. | ||
True, but he knows he survived. | ||
He was in some dangerous shit, man. | ||
Mounted. | ||
He almost got choked. | ||
Side control. | ||
I mean, how close did he come to tapping? | ||
Triangle. | ||
Yeah, rear naked. | ||
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Twice. | |
Oh, that was close. | ||
That was close. | ||
Damn. | ||
Think about that. | ||
It makes the victory even sweeter. | ||
It's an amazing win. | ||
How about this fight? | ||
Not this one, but DC vs. | ||
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Alexander. | |
It's a very interesting fight. | ||
You know, you wonder what Gustafson can do on the feet. | ||
You know, like, can he keep DC off of him? | ||
Yeah, it's all he's going to be about. | ||
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Can he keep the fight standing? | |
Yeah, exactly. | ||
Can he keep the fight standing? | ||
Does he try to take DC down the way he tries to take John down? | ||
Does he try to, you know, like to let him know really early on, hey, I can take you down too? | ||
Does he try to do what Jones did at DC? He ain't taking DC down. | ||
That's not happening. | ||
You would say that, but you wouldn't think that he would take Jones down either. | ||
He took him down twice, correct? | ||
DC's different, though. | ||
John took DC down. | ||
But the word was that John did not take the Gustafson fight very seriously in training. | ||
That's what I've heard. | ||
That is the word. | ||
We're not lying about that. | ||
Whether or not that would have played a factor, whether or not Gustafson would have been able to take him down anyway, we don't know. | ||
I feel like this fight's not getting enough hype. | ||
It's getting no hype. | ||
Zero hype. | ||
I haven't heard anybody talk about it. | ||
It's because Jon Jones is right there still. | ||
He's the elephant in the room. | ||
Will Jon beat both of them? | ||
So it's like, alright, well, there you go. | ||
Eddie just nailed it. | ||
That's exactly what it is. | ||
Zero hype. | ||
I mean, and John is just so, everybody knows he's so good. | ||
He's so special. | ||
And that's also what's tragic about it, you know? | ||
What a great comeback story, though. | ||
Amazing. | ||
If he could pull it off, it's amazing. | ||
I bet he does. | ||
Jesus Christ, look at Josh Barnett, the triathlon runner. | ||
Look at their records. | ||
Just a ton of fights. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Josh Barnett looks leaner than I've ever seen him. | ||
Ever. | ||
It's the best in shape I've ever seen him. | ||
How much did he weigh? | ||
Good question. | ||
He still has to be 50. You think so? | ||
High 40s. | ||
For sure. | ||
He's a big boy. | ||
Eddie, what's the guess? | ||
How much did Josh Parnett win? | ||
If he was... | ||
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I'm going to say 240. 245. I'll say 48. 248. Can we find out? | |
Let's see. | ||
We'll find out here. | ||
245. What does it say? | ||
We need the official way. | ||
It's not the old one. | ||
Yeah, the problem is a lot of times when I read these things off at the fights, they have a tail of the tape. | ||
Maybe we go to the video of the weigh-in. | ||
There's got to be that. | ||
But what I'm saying is for heavyweights, the only way you hear it is if, like, Bruce Buffer's saying it correctly. | ||
39. Because, like, sometimes on my sheet that I'll get, like, say, you know, I get a sheet from the UFC that shows a fighter's record, and I'll get the weight that they used to weigh in other fights. | ||
Like, sometimes they'll be heavier or lighter. | ||
So it says 239? | ||
Whoa, Nelson, 269. Whoa. | ||
So he was over? | ||
Yeah, by four pounds. | ||
Oh, fuck, I forgot. | ||
Barnett was 239. Who said 239? | ||
Powerful Jamie nailed it. | ||
Hold up. | ||
He can't be 269, otherwise he got penalized, right? | ||
Must have had to either give up 20% of his purse or lose the weight. | ||
Hold up. | ||
Roy got fatter? | ||
Maybe he lost the weight. | ||
Wouldn't be hard, right? | ||
I don't know, bro. | ||
He probably was shocked. | ||
Dude, that Uriah Hall fight I still can't get over. | ||
That's fucking amazing. | ||
Yeah, and it was what we're saying. | ||
He can do some shit, man, that not a lot of guys can do. | ||
And I knew guys like that. | ||
I knew a lot of guys like that from my Taekwondo days. | ||
There was guys that just had this ability to explode with lightning fast spinning techniques that if you weren't ready for it, dude, you got lit up. | ||
You got fucked up. | ||
Uh, fuckin' Rothwell and Stipe are fighting real soon, right? | ||
That's a great fight. | ||
There was this kid that I used to know. | ||
His name was Larry Jones. | ||
And his legs went all the way up to his ribs. | ||
His hips, like, started here. | ||
He was a tall dude. | ||
He was, like, 6'3", maybe, somewhere around then. | ||
But his legs were, like, way longer than he was tall. | ||
He looked weird. | ||
He looked like the monster from Monsters, Inc. | ||
He had legs that were perfectly designed for kicking you. | ||
And this guy, when we talk about talented dudes, physically talented dudes who could throw kicks that no one saw coming, I used to watch this guy kick the bag and I would just be marveled. | ||
Just marveled. | ||
I couldn't believe what he could do with his legs. | ||
He would throw these front leg sidekicks that would just bend this bag in half. | ||
Because he was a big dude. | ||
Larry was probably like, 220 natural pounds, 6'3 lean, didn't lift any weights. | ||
Built for kicking. | ||
Built for kicking. | ||
Like, all of his weight, I mean, it might not have been even that heavy. | ||
It might have been like 200 pounds now that I think about it. | ||
But he wasn't a weightlifter at all. | ||
Like, it was all just throwing kicks and running up hills and shit like that. | ||
But he would kick the bag and you just go, what the fuck, man? | ||
Like, you've never seen anything like it. | ||
He would throw these spinning techniques. | ||
And ever since that, I was like, how come I haven't seen a guy who can move like that in MMA? And then you start slowly seeing like Barboza can do it. | ||
You know, a few other guys can do it. | ||
They can move like that with that kind of speed and their spins. | ||
Barboza has the quickest kicks I've ever seen in my life. | ||
Never seen anybody quick. | ||
Does he have a fight scheduled? | ||
I hope so. | ||
I don't think so. | ||
I was telling Michael Jai White, you know who he is? | ||
Big, giant, karate guy. | ||
I was just telling him about Joe Rogan's turning sidekicks and all the stories and all that shit. | ||
And he's at my gym. | ||
He's big. | ||
He's like 6'4", 240 pounds. | ||
Did karate his whole life and shit. | ||
And I'm telling him about Joe Rogan's turning sidekicks, how amazing it is. | ||
And he goes, okay, let me see you throw one. | ||
So he throws one. | ||
After all this shit I talk about, Joe, at Legends, where 10th Planet headquarters used to be, he fucking throws one turning sidekick, breaks the bag, the chain, off the ceiling. | ||
He breaks it all the ceiling and lands. | ||
I'm like, oh shit, Chris Riley's gonna be fucking pissed. | ||
We're trying to put it back up. | ||
I'm holding it back up. | ||
And it's like the chain totally broke off. | ||
And then we just left it on the ground as a ground and pound bag. | ||
But I couldn't say anything about Joe Rogan anymore. | ||
This motherfucker just broke his bag. | ||
Michael Chai White is an athlete, dude. | ||
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He has clean technique, too. | |
That's Spawn, right? | ||
Yeah, Spawn. | ||
He's got clean karate technique, man. | ||
I think he hopping side kicked it, right? | ||
Turning side kick. | ||
It was a turning side kick. | ||
Blew the bag off the ceiling. | ||
Yeah, well... | ||
They weren't very good at keeping those bags on the ceiling. | ||
I assumed that. | ||
I broke that chain, too, before. | ||
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Did you? | |
Yeah, I broke that chain. | ||
You did? | ||
Yeah, that chain got broken a few times. | ||
I was talking about the video with GSP and going, fuck. | ||
That was a different bag, though. | ||
Remember, that was a center bag, and the GSP bag was a bag to the far right? | ||
A couple people broke that bag, but you gotta be a motherfucker to break that bag. | ||
That chain was really chintzy. | ||
Oh, okay. | ||
But when he hit it, he hit it perfect. | ||
I've seen him do a lot of other stuff, too. | ||
I've seen him throw a lot of kicks. | ||
He kicks real good. | ||
Holy shit, he's huge. | ||
He's giant. | ||
He's a super athlete. | ||
When you watch Michael Jai White in movies, watch him do all that stuff in movies, that guy can do that shit for real. | ||
What's he do now? | ||
He makes movies. | ||
He does a lot of TV shows and shit. | ||
He's always doing something. | ||
I saw him on some sitcom. | ||
It's the craziest thing, because I coordinated some fights for Never Back Down 2. Some of his fights. | ||
He wanted some high-level jiu-jitsu in there. | ||
And if you watch Never Back Down 2, dude, he's twistering and crotch-ripping people. | ||
Oh, yeah. | ||
That's right. | ||
I forgot when you guys went down there for that. | ||
It's crazy how... | ||
How quickly and on the spot those fights get put together. | ||
Because we're just on the set. | ||
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Just figuring it out. | |
And we're like, okay, this next fight we need to... | ||
We have like a basic idea that we go over like three times and we need to start filming. | ||
Bro, this is the heaviest I've ever seen Roy. | ||
Yeah, he's pretty big, man. | ||
That ain't good. | ||
That gut is... | ||
That's not a good sign. | ||
Could be a power gut, son. | ||
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I don't know. | |
It might be. | ||
Maybe not though, right? | ||
Oh my god. | ||
If I lose this one, that's $2,000. | ||
Did you bet on Roy? | ||
Did you bet on Roy? | ||
No, no, no. | ||
I have Roy. | ||
But it seems like a sure bet. | ||
But anything can happen. | ||
There's no sure bets. | ||
There's no sure bets, but yes. | ||
When a dude punches as hard as Roy does, you fucking never know, man. | ||
I just think Barnett's gonna close the distance, drag him to the mat, and do work. | ||
I hope so. | ||
Michael Jai White is a black belt in Kyokushin. | ||
The journey to zero begins now. | ||
Bring it! | ||
You know, Jai White has done that thing where you have to spar, like, multiple people in a day. | ||
He's done those crazy Kyokushin competitions where, you know, like, to get your black belt or something like that, they make you fight, like, fucking ten different dudes. | ||
He talked about that on my podcast. | ||
He's done a lot of that shit. | ||
30 guys in one day. | ||
Yeah, that's real. | ||
They'll make you spar, like, 30 guys. | ||
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Like, each guy does, like, a few minutes. | |
He was so big and so fast and so strong, I'm sure there was no problem for him. | ||
He's a monster. | ||
It's a weird style, too, because they punch full blast to the body, and then they kick full blast to the head, and they stand right in front of each other, and they don't wear any pads. | ||
So there's a lot of kicks coming out of nowhere. | ||
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You can punch to the head, too? | |
Or just kick to the head, right? | ||
No, you can't punch to the head. | ||
Just kick to the head. | ||
Yeah. | ||
That's hard as you can. | ||
It's a weird fucking gig. | ||
Well, a lot of those guys went off into kickboxing. | ||
A lot of those guys in the early days of kickboxing, a lot of those guys were kyokushin guys that learned how to punch. | ||
Learned how to punch the face, learned how to box, you know? | ||
But their kicks were extraordinary. | ||
They would throw kicks from like real weird angles because they would stand like Rock'em Sock'em Robot style right in front of each other sometimes and then throw those chopping... | ||
Kicks? | ||
Pretty sure Fetosa's first style was kyokushin. | ||
A lot of those guys would throw that Brazilian kick. | ||
That was like part of the style. | ||
Who was the Brazilian in K1 who was throwing axe kicks? | ||
That's Feitoso, right? | ||
No, there was another guy. | ||
Was it Filho? | ||
Francisco Filho? | ||
Yes. | ||
Both of them. | ||
Glaube Feitoso and Filho. | ||
Two high-level Brazilian guys. | ||
We haven't really seen axe kicks land in MMA yet, have we? | ||
Oh, not really. | ||
We haven't seen that. | ||
We've seen cartwheel kicks. | ||
You know, Alan Joban's throwing. | ||
He's known for cartwheel kicks. | ||
How crazy is that? | ||
Yeah, so was, what's his name? | ||
Anthony Pettis? | ||
Dwight Anderson Silva. | ||
Dwight Anderson Silva? | ||
Brian Ebersole. | ||
It was his joke. | ||
His nickname was T-W-A-S. That's ridiculous. | ||
He was a silly dude. | ||
He's a dude. | ||
He just retired. | ||
He had the arrow shaved in his chest. | ||
I could see that guy having a podcast. | ||
Like a successful podcast, right? | ||
For sure. | ||
Because Chael Sonnen, holy shit, dude. | ||
He is a murderer. | ||
Have you heard his podcast? | ||
Is it great? | ||
He crushes, dude. | ||
He smashes. | ||
It's perfect for him. | ||
He's gonna be the new Jim Rome. | ||
He's so good. | ||
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Good. | |
It's perfect for him. | ||
He just signed with World Series of Fighting, too, play-by-play. | ||
Good. | ||
You know, look, man. | ||
That guy can talk. | ||
Chael Sonnen is one of the... | ||
Until Conor McGregor came along, I said he was the greatest shit-talker of all time. | ||
But Conor took shit to another level. | ||
Watch The Ultimate Fighter. | ||
Oh, man. | ||
Conor is wicked with shit-talking. | ||
Look at Josh Barnett lean as fuck. | ||
Trying to get that modeling contract, son. | ||
Said, fuck this, fuck you. | ||
He's been hanging out with Victor Webster too much. | ||
Hasn't he been doing a lot of movies and stuff? | ||
Movies, yeah. | ||
He's done a lot of acting, right? | ||
He's been doing some wrestling stuff in Japan, like the fake wrestling. | ||
Pro wrestling? | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
Don't say fake, bro. | ||
Sorry. | ||
Have some respect. | ||
They're in Japan right now. | ||
Yeah, you're right. | ||
Josh Barnett, best catch wrestler. | ||
Damn, Roy's almost 40? | ||
261, it says. | ||
All of a sudden, Roy Nelson's a hipster. | ||
But hey, why does it say 261? | ||
That guy is tough on that belly... | ||
Is it 269 or 261? | ||
It says 1 to me. | ||
He probably took a giant shit and he came in and weighed himself again and he was 261. The YouTube video at the way end is 261. Okay. | ||
Bruce Buffer, I was on his podcast. | ||
That motherfucker can host. | ||
Have you been on Bruce Buffer's podcast? | ||
I've been on Bruce and Chase. | ||
He's a natural host. | ||
Of course. | ||
I was shocked how good he was. | ||
That guy's a professional host. | ||
He's really, really good. | ||
Well, think about how good he is as an announcer. | ||
No one's better. | ||
Never been a better announcer ever. | ||
Yeah, but there's a big difference between ring announcer and holding down a show. | ||
Well, he has no off button. | ||
He has no off button. | ||
I've seen him at restaurants in fucking Venice. | ||
They're like, Brendan! | ||
Brendan Schaub. | ||
How you doing? | ||
Just getting back from my karate lesson. | ||
Dude, Bruce Buffer. | ||
Brendan, when we surfing? | ||
Coming back from Abu Dhabi, he hooked my ass up, man. | ||
He fucking hooked me up. | ||
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He's the man. | |
Bruce Buffer, man, it's a long story, but he got me. | ||
He used all his miles to get me business class. | ||
I had economy coming back from Sao Paulo. | ||
That's so cool. | ||
Yeah, he was so cool. | ||
He hooked it all up. | ||
I'm like, well, you don't have to fuck. | ||
That's so cool. | ||
I needed like 50,000 miles or something to do that shit. | ||
Wow. | ||
It was crazy. | ||
He hooked it up. | ||
That's so cool. | ||
That's a 15 hour flight. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Sao Paulo to LA direct business class. | ||
That was huge. | ||
I just did it. | ||
That was huge. | ||
I just did it for the Ronda fight. | ||
I flew Rio to Sao Paulo. | ||
Sao Paulo one way. | ||
There's no one direct route from Rio? | ||
No. | ||
To LA? There's no direct flight to Rio. | ||
You fly to Miami and then you fly to Rio. | ||
Or Atlanta, right? | ||
Yeah, I fly Atlanta to Rio. | ||
But Sao Paulo is a direct flight from LA, so I just went that way. | ||
Dude, I feel like these guys have to fight each other before they retire, right? | ||
It's like two vets, man. | ||
It's a good fight. | ||
This is going to be interesting. | ||
Barnett's such a fucking vet. | ||
So is Roy. | ||
Barnett thinks that he just has way too many tools and he fights too smart. | ||
He thinks that Roy is just too one-dimensional. | ||
And it's interesting that his approach to this fight was to get lean and to watch his diet. | ||
Whereas, you know, that's like counter, completely counter to how Roy behaves. | ||
It's such an interesting fight, man. | ||
Yeah, Roy isn't hiring no dietitian. | ||
There's two fucking pure fighters, two vets, man. | ||
What was Roy's last fight? | ||
Roy's last fight was when... | ||
Mark Hunt fight. | ||
Mark Hunt. | ||
He got knocked out by Mark Hunt. | ||
And then he fight again after that? | ||
Before that, he fought. | ||
No, he hasn't fought. | ||
Before that, he knocked out Noguera. | ||
And then before that, he lost three. | ||
Do you remember this shit? | ||
He had a giant victory over Noguera, which was crazy huge. | ||
In Abu Dhabi. | ||
That KO was terrifying. | ||
True. | ||
It was scary. | ||
I never want Nog to fight ever again after that. | ||
Terrifying knockout. | ||
But so then he lost to DC, Frank Mir, beat Nog, got knocked out by Mark Hunt, and now he's fighting this. | ||
Yeah, the Mark Hunt one exposed like some holes in his striking when, you know, Mark Hunt is just so slick and experienced. | ||
Oh, damn! | ||
That's what I'm saying, dude. | ||
You got to be always careful of that shit from Roy. | ||
Come on, Big Roy. | ||
I got a thousand on it, son. | ||
It's amazing that he gets that entire mullet and that little hairball. | ||
Eddie Bravo, if you're $2,000 in the hole, you might have to rub his feet or something. | ||
Dude, I'm gonna need my cash, son. | ||
We're gonna keep it rolling. | ||
I'm gonna need my cash, son. | ||
I'm going back on that shit. | ||
I get lucrative, son. | ||
Oh, big kick by Barnett! | ||
Yes, come on, Josh! | ||
The journey to zero begins today. | ||
Looking for the guillotine. | ||
Oh, look, he's trying to take him down. | ||
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Holy shit, son! | |
Roy takes him down. | ||
Look at this. | ||
I want to see these guys grapple, son. | ||
Have we ever seen this? | ||
Roy Nelson taking someone down? | ||
Yes, Crow Cop. | ||
Did it work? | ||
And I'm the ultimate fighter. | ||
He crucified people. | ||
Roy's got his head pinned up against the cage. | ||
Roy's heavy on top. | ||
Let's see, man. | ||
Look at him. | ||
He's grabbing the fence. | ||
If Josh Barnett gets tapped here, you know how goddamn crazy that would be. | ||
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You know what? | |
He's got the underhook on the wrong side here. | ||
Look at this. | ||
He's got the inside underhook on the... | ||
How much time does Josh spend on his back as a catch wrestler? | ||
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That's a good question. | |
He went for an armbar against Ted Williams, you know, 15 years ago. | ||
That was in 1998, son. | ||
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Do you remember that shit? | |
Yeah, it's old school, man. | ||
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Dude, you remember? | |
I thought I had you. | ||
God damn it. | ||
Remember Ted Williams got mad? | ||
You always talk about how good the guard is, how important the guard is. | ||
Oh, dude, that was an article. | ||
Ted Williams was like, why don't you try doing the guard on me? | ||
They're like, well, you're not the same size. | ||
What are you talking about? | ||
A grappling magazine, he had an interview and it said, the guard is dead. | ||
He's the one who started the guard. | ||
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The guard is dead. | |
He started the guard is dead. | ||
He needs a row at Verdum and then re-avise that statement. | ||
For reals. | ||
I'm sure he doesn't feel that. | ||
No. | ||
Revising statements from 15 years ago, a lot of people had some ideas about what didn't work. | ||
Who the fuck thought spinning kicks worked back then? | ||
I thought head kicks would never work, and just like most people, most UFC fans, head kicks only worked in movies. | ||
And Ted Williams was right when he saw the state of the guard that was in Gladiator Combat. | ||
Yeah, everyone sucked at it. | ||
Or King of the Cage. | ||
You weren't seeing, like, the best of the best. | ||
Well, you'd have to be, like, almost at the jiu-jitsu competitions or in the labs. | ||
Dude, back then, King of the Cage 2000? | ||
Why are they standing him up? | ||
It was rare to see a guard pass. | ||
People didn't even want to pass him up. | ||
That's shit. | ||
Why are they standing him up? | ||
That's pure shit. | ||
What is that? | ||
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Oh. | |
Josh Brennan keeps throwing that left kick. | ||
They want action, Brendan. | ||
Action. | ||
Dude, it's bullshit. | ||
Josh is pushing him here. | ||
Boom, knees. | ||
Nasty knees. | ||
Nasty knees. | ||
Dude, you can't come straight in like that against fucking Roy. | ||
Come on, Josh! | ||
Come on, Josh! | ||
Jesus Christ! | ||
What the fuck are you doing? | ||
Josh, you can get in trouble with this right hand. | ||
Oh, nice uppercut. | ||
I think that fucked Roy up. | ||
Look at Roy's face. | ||
Roy's got a tremendous chin. | ||
Has he ever been knocked out? | ||
Mark Hunt, son. | ||
Walked away KO. Josh Barnett is, like, really pouring it on. | ||
He's showing some excellent cardio here. | ||
That might have been his plan. | ||
That might have been his plan, though, in this fight. | ||
To come in so lean, just really pour the pace on him. | ||
It makes sense if you want to make a run for him. | ||
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Nice kick! | |
Great body kick! | ||
Damn! | ||
That hurt. | ||
Oh, elbow! | ||
Look at Josh! | ||
Come on! | ||
Bring it to zero! | ||
Bring it to zero, baby! | ||
Look at that sneaky uppercut Barnett's been throwing, too. | ||
Josh is looking for that arm drag. | ||
If you're Josh and you want to make a run at the title, you gotta have cardio, man. | ||
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Boom. | |
Big knee. | ||
Well, you know what, man? | ||
A loss like that Travis Brown fight, this guy's a warrior. | ||
That lights a fire under a motherfucker. | ||
Yeah, they said he was fucking pissed. | ||
Of course. | ||
He was pissed when he came on my podcast. | ||
He was talking about it. | ||
He's mad about it? | ||
Yeah, well, that Travis had done the thumb across the neck thing, his thing. | ||
He thought that was super disrespectful, and he said he wasn't up for that fight. | ||
I've heard all sorts of stories about Barnett's camp, that fight. | ||
We have a mutual training partner, and he said Barnett's camp was pure shit, so he's super upset about that fight. | ||
Oh, man, you know? | ||
When a guy's been fighting for that long, it's probably hard to get up like that for every camp. | ||
Holy shit! | ||
Roy takes him down again. | ||
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What? | |
He's winning this round. | ||
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Has Roy evolved? | |
He's evolving into a good jiu-jitsu. | ||
But you never know. | ||
He never tried to use it. | ||
He's trying for that straight arm bar from his back. | ||
You know what? | ||
He lost this round. | ||
I mean, Roy got this round. | ||
Is this going to be five rounds? | ||
This is five rounds. | ||
Oh, shit. | ||
Which is bad for Roy, I feel like. | ||
Yeah, one of five, man. | ||
Yeah. | ||
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This is interesting. | |
He's going to pass right here. | ||
Watch. | ||
Oh, look at that knee slice. | ||
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Oh, shit. | |
Henzo Gracie black belt, son! | ||
It's more like Mark Lehman black belt. | ||
He was with Mark Lehman longer than... | ||
Well, Henzo gave him his black belt. | ||
Well, Henzo gave him his black belt. | ||
Yes, you're right, you're right. | ||
But Mark Lehman, he did train with Mark Lehman forever. | ||
He just trained with Mark for a long time. | ||
I agree. | ||
Good ground and pound by Roy. | ||
Good fucking ground and pound from the half guard. | ||
Barnett off his back! | ||
Interesting that he's able to take Barnett down. | ||
Do you think that being leaner, losing weight makes you a little more vulnerable to takedowns? | ||
Because the guy doesn't have to throw as much weight around? | ||
Does that make any sense? | ||
It does kind of make sense. | ||
But only a little bit, right? | ||
A little bit. | ||
Because it's only 20 pounds. | ||
Well, that's why there's weight divisions in wrestling. | ||
Bigger guys can take little guys down easy, and little guys can take bigger guys down easy. | ||
That's why people are killing themselves. | ||
The question is like how much of Barnett's weight loss is like he's lost some fat clearly, right? | ||
To get down like 10 pounds. | ||
What do you think? | ||
Did Barnett wrestle in college? | ||
How much lighter is that? | ||
Probably 15. He was 264. He used to be like 264. He lost 25 pounds. | ||
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Really? | |
25. He was always 265. Let's find out what he weighed in for the Travis Brown fight. | ||
You know what? | ||
He was actually more than 265. He was more like... | ||
Yeah, he's about 265. So he lost some fat, right? | ||
Did he wrestle in college, Josh Barnett? | ||
Josh? | ||
I don't think he did. | ||
If he did, it was probably a junior college. | ||
So I'm not that shocked that he's being taken down here. | ||
It's not like he was a world-class wrestler. | ||
Dude, no one takes Josh down, really. | ||
It's pretty rare, but DC did. | ||
DC ragdolled him. | ||
Yeah, DC did. | ||
Oh, shit! | ||
Oh, shit! | ||
Come on! | ||
Roy is throwing haymakers. | ||
Get that money, Roy! | ||
I'll send you 50%, buddy. | ||
Dude, Roy Nelson does not look like he's in bad shape here. | ||
I know, don't let the gut fool ya! | ||
Dude, these hard shots by Roy! | ||
God damn it. | ||
Look at it, Roy's throwing kicks. | ||
Roy's got some hair. | ||
Dude, Josh is hurt. | ||
Look at that. | ||
He is hurt. | ||
Jesus Christ, Roy hits hard. | ||
Josh has some big-ass legs. | ||
That sounded gay. | ||
Sorry, bro. | ||
Well, hey, I was about to go even gayer because I would say he has some juicy thighs but a flat ass. | ||
That's a bad look, son. | ||
This is interesting. | ||
I remember hanging out with Roy Nelson years and years ago. | ||
Never, ever imagined he would be... | ||
A UFC superstar, like, knocking people out. | ||
That's the last thing I ever would imagine. | ||
Dude, we had, like, breakfast with him at the hotel in that little cafe before he ever had an MMA fight. | ||
And we knew him as a jiu-jitsu guy. | ||
Yeah, he was a dude who was really good at jiu-jitsu. | ||
Yeah, I fought Roy with four fights. | ||
Oh, Jesus. | ||
He turned into a brawler. | ||
Ooh, good check, hook by Josh. | ||
248. 248. So he wasn't that much heavier for that fight. | ||
He was only 9 pounds heavier for his Travis Brown fight. | ||
He looked like shit, man. | ||
Right. | ||
His body looked like shit. | ||
He split on muscle and lost fat. | ||
But he definitely hasn't lost 25 pounds, according to that weigh-in, at least. | ||
But he looks good, man. | ||
This is about his good fit. | ||
He doesn't look weak, is what I'm saying. | ||
So if Roy's taking him down, I really don't think that that's the factor. | ||
I think it's just Roy's catching him in transitions. | ||
Oh, shit. | ||
Nice straight left. | ||
Oh, fuck, bro. | ||
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Barnett. | |
These boys are trading. | ||
Barnett also looks like he's been turning it on. | ||
He turned it on in the stand-up. | ||
Oh, look at that. | ||
After initial flurries. | ||
That was beautiful. | ||
That was beautiful. | ||
Very good combos. | ||
That was beautiful. | ||
Dude, he's kind of fucked him up there. | ||
And he's pouring it on him. | ||
Boom. | ||
And he's switching southpaw. | ||
Barnett's striking. | ||
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Oh, nice. | |
Elbows. | ||
Jesus. | ||
Boom. | ||
Yeah, and he's waiting for Roy to get tired before he pours it on, too. | ||
Damn! | ||
Fighting Crafty in the beginning part of the round, and then he hits around three minutes in, he starts really turning it off. | ||
Some veteran shit. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Well, he also knows Roy, you know, could do- Oh, look at that! | ||
Oh, shit. | ||
Roy could do a lot of damage, but- He's trying to touch the ground. | ||
You can't be at your best with that body. | ||
There's no way. | ||
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Boom! | |
Yeah, physically there's just snow, right? | ||
Some girls like that. | ||
Bro, let's say Roy gets down to 220. Is he going to be the same power puncher, or does that right hand go away? | ||
That's a super good question. | ||
And that's his shit. | ||
No one could know, right? | ||
You don't know until he tries it, and he's never tried it. | ||
I mean, we might see a better Roy than ever. | ||
Jesus Christ, Josh is looking good. | ||
He's relentless here with his stand-up. | ||
He's bleeding. | ||
It's Josh's nose on Roy's shoulder. | ||
Roy's in agony, man. | ||
He's taking some big breaths. | ||
Josh keeps hitting that solar plexus too. | ||
Dude, you know when Josh would have Stitch corner on him, which this hurts him for sure not having Stitch because he used to only fight with Stitch. | ||
Before he went in the lockdown, he'd tell Stitch, let me die in there. | ||
I used to tell Stitch the opposite. | ||
Don't let me die in there. | ||
For reals. | ||
I'd say, Stitch, look at me, bro. | ||
Don't let me fucking die in there, bro. | ||
Josh would say the exact opposite. | ||
I remember thinking, god damn, that's gangster. | ||
What's that, Jamie? | ||
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It was 265 that fight. | |
Oh, okay. | ||
Boom. | ||
So it was incorrect. | ||
25 pounds. | ||
Yeah, you're 100% right then. | ||
That's 100% right. | ||
More so, right? | ||
Damn, this is nasty. | ||
It's going to be interesting if this thing goes all five. | ||
There's no way. | ||
Damn. | ||
I think it was 26 pounds, right, Eddie? | ||
Know what they said? | ||
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Yep. | |
It says 239, so he lost 26 pounds? | ||
That's insane. | ||
Talk about dedication. | ||
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Oh, man! | |
That elbow! | ||
Nasty! | ||
You think Josh is mad that Reebok didn't make it speedo Reebok? | ||
Nah! | ||
Dennis Hallman's pissed. | ||
Oh, yeah. | ||
Josh used to always fight in those fucking undies. | ||
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Boom! | |
There's that knee again. | ||
Oh, man. | ||
His clinch is nasty, this fight. | ||
I don't see how much Roy... | ||
Oh, Roy's done. | ||
Roy's done. | ||
He is tired as fuck. | ||
Unless he's playing possum. | ||
That's not a possum. | ||
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Oh! | |
Leroy with a big kick! | ||
Crazy! | ||
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What? | |
Kung Fu Panda! | ||
Oh, and... | ||
Damn! | ||
Josh comes back. | ||
Unless he's playing possum and he throws a head kick. | ||
Crazy. | ||
Fucking saw that coming. | ||
He throws a head kick. | ||
And rocked him. | ||
But then Barnett rocked him back. | ||
Is that his first head kick ever? | ||
I would assume so. | ||
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Especially in the UFC. That was some straight panda bear shit, man. | |
Do you see that tattoo he has on his shoulder? | ||
He had a shirt apparel line back when he was like a purple belt in jiu-jitsu, 808 or something like that. | ||
And that was like, he was going to make his money that way with his shirt. | ||
He had dragon skins. | ||
He had dragon skins. | ||
What's that? | ||
Remember the rash guards? | ||
He had a really good brand of rash guards that was his. | ||
I think that's it. | ||
I think that's the logo. | ||
I think that's it because I used to love his shit. | ||
He sent them to me once. | ||
He had like the best rash guards. | ||
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Really? | |
Yeah. | ||
He just stopped doing them? | ||
I don't know, man. | ||
You know, that's a good question. | ||
But he had rash guards with like a really good material that like wicked sweat away from you. | ||
They were really good rash guards. | ||
Roy's always been a smart guy, man. | ||
He's always been on the outside of that shit. | ||
It was like a tough texture. | ||
It was soft, but it was a tough texture. | ||
And the idea, I think, was that it was really good for grappling because it wouldn't tear as easy as a regular rash guard, which is meant for surfing. | ||
That's cool. | ||
Yeah, he's always been kind of the smart guy doing different shit. | ||
He's always gone against the grain. | ||
Always. | ||
That's been Roy, man. | ||
So what happens now after that second round? | ||
That second round was crazy. | ||
Now it's 1-1. | ||
It's 1-1. | ||
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Yeah. | |
But there's no way this goes all five. | ||
I think Barnett TKO's him in the third. | ||
Or Roy hits him with one of those fucking head kicks. | ||
What are we talking about? | ||
Can you imagine? | ||
If Roy landed that head kick and Barnett toes curled. | ||
So sick. | ||
We'd be like, what in the fuck? | ||
Greatest knockout in heavyweight history. | ||
Here we go. | ||
Round three, man. | ||
Fuck, man. | ||
Both these guys are so fucking mentally tough. | ||
You're not breaking either one of these guys. | ||
Oh, nice uppercut. | ||
It's almost like Roy has to empty the gas tank early because he's got to try to hurt Josh while he can, too. | ||
Those takedowns are fresh. | ||
He keeps getting them down like this with a body lock, and then he trips them. | ||
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Oh! | |
Those knees are nasty. | ||
Barnett's not even attempting to take him down. | ||
I think that's interesting. | ||
It is. | ||
With Barnett, how heavy he is on top. | ||
Well, I think once Roy got on top of him, too, in that first round, that was no fun. | ||
No, he said, you know what, fuck this. | ||
Well, Roy's got a respected game. | ||
His grappling game. | ||
Oh, yeah, man. | ||
Although we don't see it very often in his fights. | ||
It's very high level. | ||
Everybody knows it. | ||
He's strong as fuck. | ||
He's no joke. | ||
These are good knees inside of the leg here. | ||
I'm more impressed with Barnett's stand-up, how far it's come along. | ||
In the clinch, you can tell he's working on Muay Thai. | ||
He does a lot of crazy shit, too. | ||
Like, Josh does savate and stuff like that. | ||
He has, like, a savate trainer. | ||
He's an interesting dude, man. | ||
Very smart guy, man. | ||
Are you four against male UFC fighters wearing rash guards? | ||
Women? | ||
The girls wear rash guards? | ||
Yeah, they let the women... | ||
What if guys wanted to wear them? | ||
Would you be against that? | ||
It's kind of silly. | ||
Can girls wear a long sleeve, though? | ||
I don't know. | ||
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I don't think so. | |
They wear rash guards. | ||
Right. | ||
But would you be happy with just chest? | ||
I mean, I would think rash guards would mean like a long sleeve. | ||
Because there's a big problem with greasing. | ||
I don't think it's a big problem. | ||
I don't think it's a big problem. | ||
Any time a fighter is going to fight some guy that's known for jujitsu, if he doesn't grease up, nobody's checking. | ||
He'd be an idiot. | ||
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They check now. | |
How do they check? | ||
You get patted down. | ||
And then what happens? | ||
What's the test? | ||
Look at this. | ||
They'll wipe you off. | ||
From the clinch? | ||
That's a bummer for real. | ||
They don't test. | ||
They wipe you down, bro. | ||
That doesn't mean nothing. | ||
You can't do anything if they give you a mineral oil bath the night before and then they wash you and wipe you down. | ||
The oil's still there. | ||
No one's ever been busted. | ||
The only way to really do it would be like after a fight, there'd be a guy that's assigned to that. | ||
He takes a swab and does it like that across your back. | ||
I don't think it's an epidemic. | ||
I don't think it's like a huge issue. | ||
I think Everyone complains. | ||
People are always complaining that people are increasing. | ||
Well, if you're going to fight a guy who's a nasty submission guy, and you know that you can take a mineral oil bath the night before and take a shower and soap up the day after, and it will still have an effect that won't be measurable, because people are smoother and slicker after they do that, even after they take a shower. | ||
I'm with you, man. | ||
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I'm with you. | |
I don't think it's a huge issue. | ||
When you put Vaseline on fighters' eyes, that shit gets all over the body because the guys touch the face. | ||
They're grappling. | ||
It gets on their back. | ||
All of a sudden, the guy's full. | ||
Filled up the Vaseline. | ||
For sure. | ||
But we remember when Anderson Silva wiped it off his face and wiped it on his shoulders and his chest. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Clay Guida got in trouble because his brother would slap it on him. | ||
Remember that? | ||
When he'd slap him, he'd get in trouble. | ||
He can't slap him anymore. | ||
Yeah. | ||
All I'm saying is I think they should let fighters wear Reebok rash guards. | ||
You know how much money Reebok would make? | ||
I don't think they'd make any more money than they're making with these shorts. | ||
We know the fighters aren't going to make money. | ||
Reebok, rash guards would be huge. | ||
I don't know. | ||
They haven't touched that market. | ||
Do you remember when Pat Miletic fought Carlos Newton and Jeremy Horn? | ||
I think it was that fight where he put Vaseline on Pat's neck. | ||
It was one of the fights where he put it on. | ||
It was like a miscommunication. | ||
It's a bad idea to Stanley. | ||
Maybe Jeremy fucked up. | ||
I don't know who fucked up, but there was somehow... | ||
Maybe Jeremy thought that Pat said put it on my neck. | ||
I don't remember the details. | ||
Oh, shit. | ||
This fight is crazy. | ||
Roy Nelson's hurt. | ||
He just took a big, deep breath. | ||
Oh, look at that. | ||
He's looking for the single. | ||
Dude, if he gets him down with another single leg... | ||
Look at this. | ||
Roy Nelson trying to snap that leg straight. | ||
That's exhausting for Roy, by the way. | ||
Yep. | ||
But is it more exhausting than standing up and dealing with the barrage of strikes that Josh keeps putting on him? | ||
What kind of testing do they do in Japan? | ||
That's a great point. | ||
Of what? | ||
UFC testing. | ||
Who's doing it? | ||
Is the U.S. ADA doing it? | ||
Who's doing it? | ||
Well, aren't the UFC fighters all tested randomly now? | ||
That's what I think, right? | ||
But September 30th, you have to fill out this sheet where you've got to give them your location, your whereabouts, so they can come get you anytime. | ||
Right. | ||
I wonder how they're getting tested after this fight. | ||
Do you think fighters are not doing roids anymore because of this? | ||
You think they're scared and they're like, what are they doing? | ||
What do you think they're doing to get around these new testing schedules? | ||
Some of them for sure are going to stop doing it. | ||
Some of them. | ||
100%. | ||
Some of them. | ||
It's always an issue, though. | ||
Novitski said that was pretty interesting. | ||
He said they figured out a way to make testosterone from animals that's undetectable. | ||
Like, now they can tell. | ||
They make it from yams. | ||
They make it from some wild yam. | ||
I don't know how the fuck they make it. | ||
Your boy also was talking about micro-dosing, too, right? | ||
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Boom! | |
Kick to the body! | ||
Boom! | ||
To the head! | ||
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Oh, shit! | |
Oh, look at those big shots! | ||
Look at Roy with the bolo punches! | ||
Bro! | ||
Goddamn, what a fight! | ||
What was that, round three? | ||
That was round three, yeah. | ||
Yeah, so he was talking about microdosing, but he was also talking about a new form of testosterone that they've been able to do, that they make out of animals. | ||
I guess the test before could show that it didn't come from an animal, that it came from some plant. | ||
Artificial, yeah. | ||
Plant form, the way they create it. | ||
So now, apparently, they're able to do that. | ||
We were also talking about the Tour de France. | ||
What's so funny? | ||
What are you laughing at? | ||
They had that band, Europe, singing the final countdown. | ||
Like, they're making fun of them. | ||
I can just imagine, like, their manager calling them and saying, we got some good news and some bad news. | ||
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The good news is we got to a national commercial. | |
What? | ||
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The bad news is they're going to make fun of you. | |
Yikes. | ||
They don't give a fuck. | ||
It's like a microwave oven. | ||
They probably didn't know. | ||
The manager, they don't tell them until they get there. | ||
And then they're in the middle of the commercial shoot and they kind of figured it out. | ||
Oh shit. | ||
They're goofing on us. | ||
You think they give a fuck though? | ||
Yeah. | ||
Hell, they're not doing shit. | ||
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Are you kidding? | |
But it's still their song. | ||
I mean, they're still doing... | ||
It's not like they're... | ||
National campaign, son. | ||
They're changing it. | ||
Here we go. | ||
Round four. | ||
Championship rounds. | ||
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What do you think? | |
This is actually fought at a pretty fucking good pace. | ||
Barnett with a high kick, man. | ||
Full kick to the body, jab to the face. | ||
Barnett's still got gas. | ||
Look at him. | ||
Yeah, he's pouring it on, too. | ||
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What do you have? | |
Barnett up three to one? | ||
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Two to one. | |
Two to one? | ||
I have him up two to one. | ||
Come on, Barnett. | ||
If I was really absolutely doing testing. | ||
Back to zero, bitch. | ||
I'm going to hashtag back to zero. | ||
Back to zero, bitch. | ||
As soon as this is over. | ||
But when you think about the first round, didn't Barnett do way more damage on the feet than Roy did on the ground? | ||
Got taken down twice and dominated. | ||
Right, but didn't Barnett do more damage on the feet than Roy did when they were on the ground? | ||
He did, but doesn't matter. | ||
Does it? | ||
No. | ||
I don't know, but shouldn't it matter? | ||
Shouldn't it matter? | ||
Like, who got hurt more in that first round? | ||
I would say Roy did. | ||
I would say Josh did more damage standing up. | ||
Two takedowns, though? | ||
Oh, no! | ||
Oh, look at that! | ||
Look at that! | ||
Beautiful! | ||
Look at that! | ||
In immediate knee to the body. | ||
Damn, if he didn't decide to go for it right there, he would've been on his back. | ||
That was a fucking lightning quick decision. | ||
You gotta keep going with that whizzer. | ||
Bam! | ||
Josh Barnett is just... | ||
He's in better shape in this fight than I've seen him in a long period of time. | ||
How do you feel about someone stomping on your feet? | ||
Is it dirty or is it part of the game? | ||
It's fighting. | ||
Part of the game? | ||
No, it's not dirty? | ||
Josh Barnett tying his arm out. | ||
Punches to the body, knees to the body. | ||
Bro, I ate that entire bag of mangoes. | ||
They're so good, right? | ||
They're delicious. | ||
Some of the best snack food ever. | ||
Whoever figured out how to do that shit, it was genius. | ||
Mexicans. | ||
I know, I put that online and that's all Mexicans kept saying. | ||
Be nice and it was healthy, though. | ||
It was Mexicans. | ||
We invented a lot of shit that we didn't get credit for. | ||
All that NWA shit, that's all Mexican. | ||
Lowriders, Impalas, the fucking outfits. | ||
That's true. | ||
That's all Mexicans. | ||
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Oh shit! | |
It's true. | ||
And still people make fun of us. | ||
Well, it's just because we're so close to Mexico. | ||
We invented gangster rap. | ||
Oh shit! | ||
Uppercuts, oh shit! | ||
How fucking tough is Roy Nelson? | ||
Boom, boom, boom, boom! | ||
Oh my goodness! | ||
Josh Barnett! | ||
Oh shit! | ||
Look at those elbows! | ||
Get out of there, Roy! | ||
Nasty elbows! | ||
Dude, that chin of Roy Nelson! | ||
Oh my god, and Barnett keeps mixing it up. | ||
If Barnett took him down right now, this thing would be over. | ||
Jesus, but he's battering with these fucking punches. | ||
These elbows and the uppercut. | ||
Oh, shit! | ||
He doesn't know what's coming, whether it's an elbow or an uppercut. | ||
And Barnett just keeps changing it up. | ||
It's weird how Roy's face is. | ||
Such a professional job. | ||
He's doing such a professional job of mixing up his technique. | ||
You know? | ||
Does he still have his podcast? | ||
No. | ||
He doesn't do it anymore? | ||
Nope. | ||
He's a great guest. | ||
I love having him on as a guest. | ||
Super interesting guy. | ||
Super smart, man. | ||
Those fucking elbows. | ||
He's gonna break his elbow. | ||
Oh, shit. | ||
And Roy comes back with an elbow of his own. | ||
Josh Barnett is in crazy shape. | ||
Look at this! | ||
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Take down! | |
Fuck! | ||
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Take down! | |
Attack the leg! | ||
Josh getting back into the seat. | ||
Get the hooks in, Roy Roy. | ||
Does Josh roll for a leg? | ||
Does he roll? | ||
Is that his style, catch wrestling? | ||
Yeah, he'll try to roll for a leg if he got his leg in between them. | ||
But if he gets his leg in between them, he will drop and roll. | ||
I'm impressed with Roy, man. | ||
Look at this. | ||
He's going for that Kimura. | ||
And he uses it to stand up. | ||
Look at that. | ||
He makes Roy defend it. | ||
Stands up, goes to the fence, turns around. | ||
Smart man. | ||
This is a great fight, man. | ||
This is a great fight. | ||
I'd love to see Barnett versus Arlovsky. | ||
That would be really good, actually. | ||
Round five is going to end right at three hours. | ||
Okay, well, we'll restart it in between rounds. | ||
We can't leave the people hanging here. | ||
What if something crazy happens and we don't have it on film? | ||
After this round, you have to start? | ||
Yeah, because we're at three hours, because the fight is going over. | ||
Motherfucker. | ||
No one thought that the fights would go that long. | ||
But how is that possible? | ||
They give you a three-hour block? | ||
Is that what they do? | ||
I think so. | ||
You stream or something? | ||
But all the fights went to decision except for Uriah, though. | ||
Right. | ||
That's probably what it is. | ||
Damn. | ||
This is a great fight. | ||
I like Josh's southpaw style, too, with that fucking left kick he keeps throwing. | ||
Left knee. | ||
It seems like Josh is getting a little tired. | ||
Of course he is. | ||
How could he not? | ||
Roy is, too, though. | ||
Look at both of them. | ||
Head position. | ||
Look at that head position. | ||
Come on. | ||
That is just... | ||
Look at the adjustment. | ||
That's exhausting. | ||
It's exhausting if you're Roy. | ||
He adjusts every time. | ||
He's adjusting. | ||
Stays on you. | ||
It's hard to pull off a technique, a counter-technique, when you've got someone's head up your jaw. | ||
I'll tell you what, man. | ||
Both these guys have been in there with just the best of the best. | ||
Think about Roy's fights in the UFC. Yeah, but if you think about experience-wise, wouldn't you give Barnett the edge seeing all the fights he had in Pride? | ||
100% in Pride, 100%. | ||
The only one missing from his resume was Fedor in Pride. | ||
True, true. | ||
But Nelson's been around for a long time. | ||
If you go UFC experience, it's Roy by far. | ||
Yep. | ||
What happened? | ||
What happened? | ||
Did he hit him low? | ||
Yeah, hit him the nuts. | ||
Get that rest, Roy. | ||
Right at the belt. | ||
It's the end of the round. | ||
Wow. | ||
Let's see this. | ||
Oh, Jesus. | ||
No, that's the gut. | ||
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No, hold up. | |
Hold up. | ||
Let's see if he gets... | ||
I think this is earlier in the round. | ||
This is just the beatdown. | ||
Yeah, Jesus Christ. | ||
These are awesome combinations. | ||
There's a vicious uppercut. | ||
Oh, bro, you know who Roy fought after he got knocked out by Hunt? | ||
Over him. | ||
Right to a leg lock. | ||
Oh, that's right. | ||
That's right. | ||
Roy fought over him. | ||
That was a good fight. | ||
That was a good fight. | ||
And over him had to stay the fuck away from him. | ||
Fuck yeah. | ||
And Roy knocked him down once. | ||
Overeem's JDS next, correct? | ||
What a fight that's gonna be. | ||
Holy shit. | ||
It's been for a while, yeah. | ||
Wouldn't you want to see Overeem versus Barnett? | ||
I would love that. | ||
That would be fucking interesting. | ||
Super interesting. | ||
That would be very interesting. | ||
I got Barnett in that fight. | ||
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Really? | |
I just think he's tougher. | ||
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Wow. | |
They never fought each other in Pride, huh? | ||
Nope. | ||
That would be a great fucking fight, man. | ||
I think Barnett-Orlovsky, Barnett-Overeem. | ||
There's a bunch of good fights in the heavyweight division. | ||
Orlovsky-Overeem? | ||
What? | ||
The fuck? | ||
Heavyweight's an easy-ass job to make fights. | ||
JDS and Overeem is a great fight, though, and there's been a lot of shit-talking over the years. | ||
They hate each other, huh? | ||
Yeah, I wonder, I mean, it's a good time because Overeem's got some confidence now. | ||
Is it a good time? | ||
I think so. | ||
I don't think so. | ||
Well, I think so because JDS has had some trouble. | ||
It's a good time for Overeem. | ||
Spinning back into the body by Barnett! | ||
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Damn! | |
I think it's a good time for Overeem, it's a bad time for JDS. That's what I mean. | ||
And I think that if it was earlier, it would have been a good time for JDS and a bad time for Overeem. | ||
I agree. | ||
Josh Barnett pouring it on. | ||
I agree 100%, Joe. | ||
So I think right now, though, is the closest it's been. | ||
I think I would have given Overeem an edge if you would have the Overeem that fought Brock. | ||
That motherfucker took over the world! | ||
That's the only fight ever in my life. | ||
They would have called me and I'm like, no, I'm good, man. | ||
Nope, not interested. | ||
No, I'm hurt. | ||
What do you got? | ||
I don't know. | ||
I'm not feeling it, yo. | ||
Just not feeling it. | ||
My lead, bro. | ||
That ovary, the 265-pound shredded ovary, regardless of substances that enhance that position, that motherfucker was terrifying. | ||
So that guy, I like him over a lot of people. | ||
Maybe even over Junior Dos Santos. | ||
Bro, I like him over Junior Dos Santos and Kane at the same time. | ||
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Fuck! | |
That guy was on another level. | ||
I don't know, though. | ||
I don't know if he would be able to do that to Kane in that fight. | ||
I mean, would he be able to keep... | ||
You gotta think, first of all, we're looking at the results, but we're not thinking about the players because Josh... | ||
I mean, Brock Lesnar was coming off a stomach surgery. | ||
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I don't give a fuck. | |
He had 12 inches of his colon removed. | ||
Oberyn was touching him and just, fuck, it looked like it hurt. | ||
Yeah, I mean, look, Overeem's terrifying. | ||
There's no doubt about it. | ||
Not that Overeem is. | ||
This new Overeem is not as terrifying. | ||
Well, it's not the same guy, you know? | ||
I mean, physically. | ||
No, not even close. | ||
But we don't know how much of that fight was Overeem and how much of it was Brock Lesnar really shouldn't have been fighting. | ||
I agree. | ||
What MMA legend, UFC legend, did Valentine Overeem beat? | ||
Randy Couture. | ||
Hold up. | ||
He beat... | ||
Valentine beat... | ||
You just heard Joe say it. | ||
Don't act like you're just... | ||
He's like, Chad, you just said Randy Couture. | ||
He guillotined Randy Couture, tapped him. | ||
But I guess he never fought in the UFC. He also beat Ray Cepho. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Which is old school, but he got him in a neck crank. | ||
Right. | ||
But Ray's more of a K-1 legend than he is a UFC legend, right? | ||
Yeah, that was the last time I heard him. | ||
And... | ||
I like how you were thinking about it when he said it. | ||
I got it, I got it. | ||
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Hold, hold, hold. | |
Ensign Inoue armbarred Randy. | ||
Remember that fight? | ||
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Yeah. | |
Ensign kicked Randy with some crazy hard kicks off of his side. | ||
Like he was lying on his side, almost like a semi butt scoot. | ||
That's how Hoyce does it. | ||
Sakuraba 2? | ||
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Yeah. | |
Hoyce was throwing off his back some serious kicks to Sakuraba's knee. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Oh, he got him down again. | ||
Oh, shit. | ||
Roy in the fucking fifth and final round takes him down. | ||
But he's got a Kimura. | ||
He does have a Kimura, but he doesn't have the legs, right? | ||
And that's Roy Nelson. | ||
That kimono's not going to be shit. | ||
It's going to be hard, that's for sure. | ||
Dude, Josh Bynick? | ||
But Ensign was on his side throwing roundhouse kicks to the leg. | ||
Fucking hard kicks, man. | ||
I remember thinking, whoa, I didn't know you could throw kicks like that from your side. | ||
That's the first time I've ever seen a guy do that. | ||
Oh shit, Roy. | ||
Not much time left. | ||
Nasty knee to the body. | ||
How about Randy Couture said if Beltor would have signed Fedor, he'd want to still fight him. | ||
Did he really say that? | ||
How old is Randy Couture right now? | ||
I thought he said he doesn't. | ||
I thought he said he was interested in that fight. | ||
Well, if he's interested, we don't know who Fedor is fighting in Japan. | ||
If Japan really wants to make some money, that's the fight. | ||
How old is Randy Couture though? | ||
52. 52? | ||
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52. Hey man, let's not do that, huh? | |
How about... | ||
Hey, I'm all for it. | ||
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Fuck! | |
I'm all for it. | ||
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Let's make 50 the new 40. Bro, what if it's Kimbo Slice? | |
Let me make sure that Randy Couture is 52. Could you look that up? | ||
Bob Sapp, Fedor, New Year's Eve. | ||
What if it's Kimbo, Fedor? | ||
Oh, that would be horrendous. | ||
He's 52. If horrendous, you mean awesome. | ||
No, man, that would be so wrong. | ||
Dude. | ||
That would be so fucked up. | ||
A juiced up Fedor versus Kimbo. | ||
A juiced up Kimbo. | ||
A juiced up Kimbo. | ||
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Ooh, maybe both, right? | |
And he's like 50-something, right? | ||
Ken Shamrock looks shredded. | ||
But if Fedor comes back and he's at his old skill level, that's a terrible mismatch. | ||
I mean... | ||
That's a big if, bro. | ||
Well, if they're letting them fight in Japan, and if Japan doesn't have any... | ||
We're not saying. | ||
I just want to get right out of the way. | ||
Don't accuse me of accusing him of juicing. | ||
But let's just say... | ||
Let's just say we go back to the Vanderlei... | ||
Oh! | ||
Look at his cut. | ||
Roy Nelson's going to go for it. | ||
Roy Nelson's going for it. | ||
He is going for it. | ||
Fuck it. | ||
15 seconds. | ||
Oh, shit. | ||
Nice combo. | ||
Josh looked up at the clock. | ||
12 seconds to go. | ||
Oh! | ||
Go, Roy! | ||
That was a hard shot to the forearm! | ||
He threw a sidekick! | ||
Damn! | ||
Oh, Royce with a big shot! | ||
What a fucking fight! | ||
What a fucking fight! | ||
Damn! | ||
That's what you expect out of those fucking two. | ||
Did we make it out of three hours? | ||
Where are we three? | ||
Whatever. | ||
Another tracker. | ||
Barnett by decision, right? | ||
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Probably? | |
I think so. | ||
Most likely? | ||
You never know though, right? | ||
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3-2? | |
I bet they give it to him 3-2. | ||
Never know. | ||
I mean, we've seen crazier shit. | ||
Take downs in Japan. | ||
You never know. | ||
Boom! | ||
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Boom! | |
What a great fight. | ||
I'll tell you one thing. | ||
Unquestionably, Josh Barnett looked as good as he's ever looked. | ||
Like, his physical shape... | ||
Like, the combinations. | ||
This is the best Roy's look, too, in a long time. | ||
Roy was way more prepared than his body would let you think. | ||
Right? | ||
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100%. | |
I mean, he obviously went five hard fucking rounds. | ||
You can never judge Roy by his look, though. | ||
Hurt him in the fifth round. | ||
You know, he still had power in the fifth and final round. | ||
And took him down four times. | ||
Took him down in the fifth round. | ||
Took Josh Barnett four times. | ||
And took him down the fifth. | ||
And hurt him in the fifth, too. | ||
Banged him. | ||
I think he ate some hard fucking kicks to his arms, too, man. | ||
So a guy like Roy, he's won one in his last five. | ||
What do you do with that? | ||
Never let that guy go. | ||
He's always fun. | ||
He's always fun to watch, man. | ||
You can't let that guy go. | ||
No! | ||
I'm saying if you're Roy. | ||
It's hard if you're Roy. | ||
It's hard. | ||
What do you do? | ||
Honestly, what he needs to do is what Josh just showed. | ||
He needs to get in some serious shape. | ||
Pre-define himself. | ||
Take some time off. | ||
Well, yeah. | ||
I mean, look how much better Josh looked with a dietician. | ||
I mean, I guess it's a guy he trains with. | ||
It's a guy who's prescribed his diet for him, who's monitoring his diet for him. | ||
But look how goddamn good he looked. | ||
Five hard rounds against a bomber like Roy Nelson. | ||
That was a scrap. | ||
Scrap! | ||
Yes. | ||
And Josh looked great in the fifth and final round. | ||
He looked amazing. | ||
I mean, still had real good wings. | ||
I thought they both looked amazing. | ||
I think Roy was pouring it on at the end. | ||
Sure as fuck was. | ||
But now let's imagine if Roy had done the same thing that Josh did. | ||
Would Roy have won that fight? | ||
Who knows, man. | ||
If Roy had done the same thing that Josh did as far as monitoring his diet, but could still hit that fucking hard, lost the body fat, had more gas in his tank, was able to pour it on more, was able to counter more off the cage. | ||
The difference in this really wasn't Roy's striking, was it? | ||
It was his takedowns, his grappling. | ||
That was a lot. | ||
So let's say he loses weight, so he's taking pitches down. | ||
And not losing the position because of scrambles. | ||
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Yeah, exactly. | |
Like, you know, not conserving his gas tank. | ||
If he got in tremendous shape, let's say he got down to 185. Can you imagine how good his jiu-jitsu would look? | ||
Oh, my God. | ||
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Oh, my God. | |
Incredible. | ||
I mean, who knows 185? | ||
We're kind of talking crazy. | ||
185 is fucking nuts. | ||
You're talking about a different game. | ||
He's a big guy jiu-jitsu. | ||
Top heavy, you know what I'm saying? | ||
That's his game. | ||
You don't know how light it could be. | ||
But what could it be? | ||
185 ain't happening, gentlemen. | ||
Come on, man. | ||
Look at that. | ||
No, bro. | ||
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I don't know, man. | |
You might be wrong, though. | ||
You might be wrong. | ||
Because look, what if he loses 50 pounds? | ||
If he loses 50 pounds, he's 210. If he loses 210, he's Chris Weidman. | ||
But just stop and think about that. | ||
No, I'm with you. | ||
It sounds fun. | ||
Hey, Eddie, you want to bet 10 Gs? | ||
Roy never gets in 185? | ||
10 Gs. | ||
Josh Barnett. | ||
War Master. | ||
Congratulations, sir. | ||
He's not even breathing heavy. | ||
Well, I mean, he's recovered. | ||
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No, he's tired for sure. | |
It's a hell of a fucking fight. | ||
Hell of a fight. | ||
Jesus Christ. | ||
Hell of a fight. | ||
God damn, Josh Barnett. | ||
Let me see if he says some crazy pro wrestling shit. | ||
Crank that shit up. | ||
Because sometimes he says crazy pro wrestling shit. | ||
Yeah, they're usually good. | ||
He picked me up once. | ||
I felt like a pillow. | ||
After the fight, he was still jazzed up. | ||
After the Frank Muir fight, he hoisted me up in the air. | ||
Like a throw rug. | ||
Just like a fucking... | ||
Like a scarf. | ||
Like a welcome mat. | ||
Like a scarf. | ||
That's what I felt like. | ||
Josh should have some satanic tattoos. | ||
Oh, he's gonna talk in Japanese. | ||
He talks Japanese. | ||
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That's where the money comes from right there. | |
They love him over there, man. | ||
He speaks Japanese, man. | ||
What a stud. | ||
Wow. | ||
He's getting big laughs. | ||
Isn't it? | ||
He's such an unusual dude. | ||
Yeah, he's a weird bird. | ||
I respect the fuck out of that guy, though. | ||
Oh, me too. | ||
I mean, I'm not gonna hang out with him, but for sure. | ||
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What? | |
You wouldn't hang out with him? | ||
I probably would. | ||
We're just so different, man. | ||
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Who? | |
You would love him. | ||
You would love him. | ||
Really? | ||
Yeah, he's awesome. | ||
I'm a big fan of Josh Barnett as a person. | ||
I like hanging out with him. | ||
I love having him on the podcast. | ||
He's great on your podcast. | ||
Smart motherfucker, dude. | ||
As smart and as well-read and as nuanced in his thinking as anybody I know. | ||
And he's a professional fighter at the highest level. | ||
Nothing I did in here was good enough tonight. | ||
He's a fucking monster. | ||
He's on a fucking bender right now. | ||
That's not the right word. | ||
Bender. | ||
It's a horrible word. | ||
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Drinking. | |
Or drugs. | ||
He's on a run, is what I meant to say. | ||
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Yeah, he's on a straight track. | |
He's doing well, is what I meant to say. | ||
He's on a real bender. | ||
Ladies and gentlemen. | ||
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Ladies and gentlemen. | |
Open mouth, insert foot. | ||
It would be one thing if I didn't do this for a living. | ||
Look how she's looking at Josh Barnett. | ||
Oh my god, are you looking at her eyes? | ||
She wants that baby face dick. | ||
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Hi. | |
Hi. | ||
He's like Godzilla over there, bro. | ||
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You know, Rampage destroys in Japan. | |
He still destroys Asians in America. | ||
How dare you bring that up? | ||
He's not here to defend himself. | ||
It's all he likes. | ||
Hey, you know they're talking about having Rampage fight Rumble? | ||
Why would they do that? | ||
Have you heard? | ||
That's a rumor I've read online. | ||
I've heard Rampage Shogun. | ||
Oh, I like that funny. | ||
Oh, wait. | ||
Or is Dan Shogun? | ||
It's Dan Shogun. | ||
Well, Shogun just had shoulder surgery. | ||
He's been in a sling. | ||
Like, his arm's been in a sling. | ||
But he's back training. | ||
Is he? | ||
He was in a sling, like, really recently. | ||
Really? | ||
Yeah. | ||
Like, really recently. | ||
There was photos of him, I think on Instagram or something like that, of him in a sling. | ||
I heard Rampage Shogun. | ||
That's what I heard. | ||
That would be a crazy fight. | ||
That's the next fight. | ||
That's a crazy fight. | ||
But if Shogun did have shoulder surgery, I don't know what surgery he had or why. | ||
Rumble Rampage. | ||
You know what? | ||
I might be making this up. | ||
Because I'm assuming it was a shoulder thing because he had his arm in a sling. | ||
It could have been something as simple as bone spurs pulled out of his elbow, which is a quick turnaround. | ||
A lot of guys do... | ||
What does it say? | ||
Surgery... | ||
What does it say? | ||
Early 2016 return. | ||
Yeah, so it's probably shoulder. | ||
What does it say? | ||
Does it say what kind of surgery? | ||
Young Jamie? | ||
Shoulder. | ||
Right shoulder. | ||
Yeah, it was shoulder surgery. | ||
See? | ||
You don't hear shit. | ||
No, I just guessed. | ||
I did hear Shogun Rampage. | ||
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Well... | |
From a reliable source. | ||
Well, now if Shogun is not going to be able to fight until 2016, I wonder what they'll do. | ||
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Because... | |
Well, you know what? | ||
Black on black crime, son! | ||
But most of the fights up until December are already accounted for anyway. | ||
Especially the big blockbusters. | ||
They're already accounted for anyway. | ||
So maybe that is the fight. | ||
But Rumble... | ||
Rumble versus Rampage would be crazy for as long as it lasted. | ||
That's a crazy fight. | ||
What if Rampage wins? | ||
What if Rampage can take it and KOs him? | ||
Huh. | ||
I love Rampage. | ||
I don't like that fight for him. | ||
Mmm. | ||
Scary fight. | ||
Rumble's terrifying right now. | ||
Fucking terrifying. | ||
How good did he look for that Gustafson fight? | ||
He's like Wolverine style. | ||
Terrifying. | ||
That Gustafson fight scared the fucking shit out of me. | ||
Well, then he knocked fucking Homeboy to next week. | ||
Dude. | ||
He's a monster. | ||
Straight monster. | ||
Yeah, he's so good right now. | ||
And you know what? | ||
I think he's coming off of that Daniel Cormier loss. | ||
He's upset with himself and training even harder, even more focused. | ||
205 is really wide open. | ||
He's Instagramming a whole shitload of pictures of his dog. | ||
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He's got cute dogs. | |
Yeah, you know he's taking it serious. | ||
What does that mean? | ||
And you know what? | ||
It proves that he's an emotional person and his heart is in the right place. | ||
Because he Instagrams pics of his dogs? | ||
Yes. | ||
It's weird, man. | ||
Interesting take on it. | ||
You know what bothers me when guys post quotes all the time? | ||
Well, guys or girls. | ||
Guys or girls post quotes. | ||
It pisses me off. | ||
I post memes. | ||
I had to stop following a friend because he kept posting quotes. | ||
Frank who? | ||
I said a friend. | ||
I'm not going to blast. | ||
What kind of quotes are you talking about? | ||
Just bullshit. | ||
Like what? | ||
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Be strong and follow your delight. | |
Successful people don't hate on others. | ||
Just bullshit like that. | ||
You know who's got a funny bit about, like, motivational dudes online? | ||
It's Chris D'Elia. | ||
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Does he? | |
It's pretty fucking funny, man. | ||
Because Chris D'Elia doesn't work out at all. | ||
And he's got, like, this really funny bit about guys are telling, like, I think he says, like, hashtag He hates beast mode stuff. | ||
He hates beast mode stuff. | ||
Yeah, hashtag eat a dick. | ||
You see my shoes? | ||
Someone sent me these beast mode shoes and he wrote on there like, those fucking suck. | ||
Then sent me a text. | ||
It was like, why don't you go fuck yourself with those beast mode shoes? | ||
I put, hey man, relax. | ||
I didn't fucking design them. | ||
It's fun to say hashtag something. | ||
A lot of comedians say that, like, hashtag suck it, hashtag... | ||
That's funny. | ||
People say that all the time. | ||
I catch myself doing it, too. | ||
It's like a really funny thing that people are doing these days. | ||
You know what's crazy? | ||
Is when I post... | ||
Adding hashtag to things. | ||
When I post a meme, I can see, like, people... | ||
I can see my followers rise, but when I post anything like anti-vaccine or any kind of... | ||
Dude, I lose hundreds. | ||
I lose hundreds. | ||
It's like 72,000.8 and then it goes.7,.6,.5. | ||
People get pissed, man. | ||
They just unfollow, unfollow, unfollow. | ||
They get so mad. | ||
People don't like conspiracy theories. | ||
I lost so many followers during 9-11. | ||
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9-11. | |
9-11. | ||
I wanted to tell you to stop. | ||
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I want to save Eddie's office. | |
I lost. | ||
You know what? | ||
I clean him out. | ||
It's a filter. | ||
I need to clean those fuckers out. | ||
Whatever. | ||
You can try to watch a video of Tower 7 go down in free fall speed and you're going to tell me that it burned. | ||
It was 9-11. | ||
Hey, I'm cleaning them out. | ||
I don't want them to follow me. | ||
I got to go to the comedy store. | ||
I don't want them to follow me. | ||
We got to wrap this bitch up. | ||
We got to wrap this bitch up. | ||
Chemtrails, Tower 7. Oh, shit. | ||
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UFO, flying rods. | |
Thank you, everybody. | ||
Thank you, Eddie Bravo. | ||
Thank you. | ||
It was an awesome time. | ||
Thank you, Brendan Shaw. | ||
Yes, sir. | ||
I'd be getting lucrative t-shirts now available at higherprimate.com. | ||
November 12th, Live Fire and the Kid, Tempe, Arizona. | ||
100 tickets left. | ||
That's it. | ||
And there's one that sold out in Ontario on October 1st, and I might be a part of that motherfucker. | ||
Oh, shit! | ||
We'll talk later. | ||
That's this Thursday, son. | ||
We'll talk later. | ||
That's it. | ||
I'm in 10th Planet Indianapolis this Saturday, and I just uploaded EBI 4 for free on YouTube. | ||
Eddie Bravo Invitational 4, in its entirety, free on YouTube. | ||
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Check it out. | |
Thanks, everybody, for tuning in to these things, and thanks for indulging us in this ridiculousness, and we'll see you soon, next week, with some real podcasts. | ||
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All right! | |
This was a real one, though. | ||
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Yeah, it was. | |
This is a real one. | ||
This was the perfect one. |