Aug. 25, 2015 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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| We are doing this show in the honor of Derek the safari guide who was killed by Cecil's cousin in Africa today. | ||
| All day my fucking Facebook has been a mess because of people angry at me, thinking that I really cared that this fucking safari guy got killed. | ||
| But Abby Martin's here to straighten everything out. | ||
| Did you cry, Cecil? | ||
| No, I didn't shed any tears. | ||
| No? | ||
| No. | ||
| I cried when Jimmy Kimmel cried. | ||
| Yeah, see, these stories are just... | ||
| I just feel like they're manufactured kind of outrage and feign outrage for people to just feel better. | ||
| I mean, yes, of course you should... | ||
| You know, love animals and love humans and have solidarity with all living things. | ||
| But it just seemed really manufactured, especially when I read interviews with people who lived there and they were like, who the fuck is Cecil the lion? | ||
| Like the way the hysteria in this country made it seem like he was like their national animal. | ||
| Like this was the lion that was like a beloved, the lion, right? | ||
| This beloved creature. | ||
| And everyone was like, why do Americans care so much about this lion? | ||
| Well, no one had heard anything about him at all until this guy killed him. | ||
| And then once we decided that there was a name to Cecil, then it became this big thing. | ||
| I had Justin Wren, who's a friend of mine who works in the Congo. | ||
| He builds water wells for these people in the Congo that don't have fresh water. | ||
| And he said the most sobering statistic yesterday. | ||
| He said 5,000 children between the age of... | ||
| Up to the age of five die every day in the Congo because they drink dirty water. | ||
| 5,000 a day. | ||
| A day. | ||
| I can't even comprehend that. | ||
| It's insane. | ||
| It's impossible to wrap your head around. | ||
| But black lives don't matter. | ||
| Lions matter. | ||
| No, seriously. | ||
| I mean, someone else wrote a really poignant editorial, this African woman, and she was just like, there's so much death and destruction, basically, because of just so many things. | ||
| Globalization, especially with the raping of the Congo, the Civil War there. | ||
| And she was like, but lions matter more than black lives. | ||
| And that's the absolute truth. | ||
| I think when people can, you know, anthropomorphize this, like, creature and feel some sort of connection to it, you can do that about anything. | ||
| We do it with our dogs, but the truth is we're eating animals every day. | ||
| You know, it just seemed like picking and choosing just because it's this, like, majestic creature. | ||
| Yeah, it was also, it gives people an opportunity to be really angry and not think about their real problems. | ||
| Like, there was all these people in front of Cecil's or this guy, the dentist's office, and they were saying, they should have his head on their wall. | ||
| People, I would like to see his head on a wall. | ||
| Like, you really want, you want a person to be killed now, too? | ||
| It's not bad enough? | ||
| It actually hit me a little bit too close to home because I saw this wave of hysteria and vitriol against this guy and actual lambasting him with death threats over and over again. | ||
| People going and smearing blood on his office and stuff. | ||
| And I just was... | ||
| Really, really horrified because I was like, holy shit, this happened to me on a really like micro scale with the Chris Kyle stuff. | ||
| I was just like getting like incessantly peddled with death threats. | ||
| And that's awful. | ||
| It's wrong. | ||
| You can't do that to someone. | ||
| We're all human beings and you can't do that even if you hate someone or Think that they you know if you personally want someone to die like you can't just be like You should die because you hunted a line you should die because you wore a fuck Chris Kyle shirt I just think that apply it across the board and this kind of online bullying and like Driving people into a hole or doxing them and exposing their personal information because you disagree with something that they did It's wrong Mia Farrow dox the dentist Mia Farrow. | ||
| Yeah, she put the dentist's address online Wow. | ||
| She's very sad. | ||
| The last person that I would ever expect to do that. | ||
| Crazy bitch. | ||
| That's so interesting. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Fuck Woody Allen. | ||
| What do you want from him? | ||
| It's not a joke. | ||
| She's mad at the world. | ||
| It's not a joke to get doxed and to get peddled with death threats. | ||
| Well, you had that Chris Kyle t-shirt. | ||
| The fuck Chris Kyle t-shirt. | ||
| Was that what did it? | ||
| Or was it being on the show that did it? | ||
| So you did warn me, just in case people haven't heard the last episode that I was on. | ||
| I talked about how Chris Kyle was a sociopath. | ||
| I talked about how he lied in his book about, you know, killing people, beating dogs or horses so bad that his hand broke. | ||
| But the thing is, he's lied about so many things like Jesse Ventura has proven that he lied about that fight and stuff. | ||
| So we can't really trust what he said in his book. | ||
| But I think it's just odd that someone would lie about killing black people in Herne, King, and Trina. | ||
| Like, why would you brag about that? | ||
| You think that you would brag about a story about, like, saving a child. | ||
| But instead, he talked about how he was actually bragging about, like, slaughtering people who were looting. | ||
| Looters, yeah. | ||
| Executing poor people who were stealing things. | ||
| Super fucking weird. | ||
| And I just want to make it very clear that I have a lot of respect for veterans and soldiers who choose to defect. | ||
| There's a lot of heroic people like Ben Griffin, Special Operations, and In the UK who basically went to Iraq and just refused to go back. | ||
| So there's a ton of amazing veterans and soldiers who I think that should be praised, especially when we're looking at something like the Iraq War, which was a complete disaster. | ||
| Countless dead, countless maimed. | ||
| Now ISIS is erupted. | ||
| So when we have these heroes that are mythologized in our society, and when we have someone like Chris Kyle, who's the pinnacle of what the hero should be from that war and rewriting the history of the Iraq War, I think it's really dangerous. | ||
| I talked about what I really felt about Chris Kyle. | ||
| People got really upset. | ||
| My friend Leo, who runs this clothing company, printed a shirt. | ||
| A one-off shirt. | ||
| Fuck Chris Kyle. | ||
| He wanted me to wear it. | ||
| I was like, yeah, fuck it. | ||
| Let's take a photo. | ||
| I posted it on my Instagram account. | ||
| My Instagram account doesn't have that many followers. | ||
| I did not know the shitstorm that would be ensuing whatsoever. | ||
| I wore the Fuck Chris Kyle shirt. | ||
| Tits out. | ||
| You know, two weeks go by and I was like, whatever. | ||
| Nothing happened. | ||
| I wake up to every... | ||
| Like, it almost started where I was like, oh shit, this is going to be a really good art project because I was getting peddled with like the craziest shit you've ever heard. | ||
| Like rape... | ||
| Like, genital mutilation so detailed that I was like, is this ISIS actually writing these comments? | ||
| Because it seems like these people actually admire ISIS because it's like the most grotesque, disturbing things about my vagina and what they wanted ISIS to do to it that I was like, holy fuck, like, you guys must have, like, some sick admiration for ISIS. Now, when you saw that, do you report those people? | ||
| So, it started... | ||
| I remember I was going to Baltimore and I just was getting it so frequently that I was like, holy fuck. | ||
| So my Instagram account, I had to make it private immediately because people had gone through and said, we're going to put our raping shoes on and find you, all this shit. | ||
| So I shut that down. | ||
| And then I went on Facebook and saw that every single art post that I had on my art page, every single public. | ||
| So I didn't want to shut it down because I was like, I don't want to Defer to these threats but at the same time it was getting so extreme that I couldn't handle like the volume of of death and rape threats because at first I was like cataloging them and I was like okay I'm taking screenshots of all these I'm gonna make this giant like like art project and I was like no fuck this this is like not this is actually getting way way too crazy and then I got doxxed by this guy This veteran who basically just wrote me and he was | ||
| like, hey, I just posted your address and all the veteran and sniper forms. | ||
| I was like, there's sniper forms? | ||
| And he was like telling people, you know, how to find you. | ||
| And then I found out that my mom got doxxed. | ||
| So my mom's personal information got exposed. | ||
| And so luckily I was already moving in a week, but I was just like, this is this is bad shit crazy. | ||
| So I tried to contact the cops for like the I think there was like 10 really graphic like I'm going to come to your house this Saturday. | ||
| Cut your clit off like let you bleed to death on the floor like just I mean things like that I was like and it was a person's public Facebook page you can see is like license plate in the photo he had like a baby You know they're just like these people out there who are just totally proud to be like completely homicidal and and rapey and really Sociopathic acting so I went to the cops and I was just like look there's like five people who I know who they are They've said that they're going to come kill me or rape me or cut my clit off and I was like is there anything that you can you can do and And they basically | ||
| just took the report and nothing ever happened. | ||
| Were you supposed to go to the FBI for that? | ||
| Dude, it was so funny. | ||
| I called the FBI and they're like, yeah. | ||
| They're like, oh, online threats? | ||
| Yeah, just go to this website and file it. | ||
| Like, there's probably so many online threats going on every day. | ||
| Yeah, at this point, right? | ||
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Can you imagine? | |
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Especially with clit killing. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, the thing... | ||
| A lot of clit stabbers out there. | ||
| The thing that was just... | ||
| It just upset me so much because people were comparing me to Pamela Geller. | ||
| They're like, okay, Abby can wear a Fuck Chris Kyle shirt and Pamela Geller can have the Draw Muhammad contest. | ||
| I'm like, first of all, stop deifying Chris Kyle as a prophet. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| Second of all, we're not talking about a marginalized portion of society, which is Arabs who are basically this generation's demonized I was like, we're talking about Chris Kyle, which is like the peak of the Empire, this, you know, homicidal soldier who's like glorified in war propaganda and shit. | ||
| So you can't really compare the two. | ||
| But I just think it's really important to understand the real history of the Iraq War. | ||
| And I think American Sniper really not only whitewashed it, but just doubled down on the myth. | ||
| And, you know, the establishment chooses these war heroes to perpetuate and Chris Kyle is not a hero. | ||
| I think that there are countless heroes that we would be much more appropriate to hail. | ||
| What's hard to, when you look at a story like the American Sniper story, it's hard to figure out what really happened. | ||
| Because there were definitely some fabrications. | ||
| So it's hard to figure out, okay, military people, when they retire, they do not get much money. | ||
| It's piss poor and it's quite an embarrassment. | ||
| It's an embarrassment as far as the way they're treated medically. | ||
| The UFC has worked really hard to provide money for the Intrepid Institute for traumatic brain injuries, which is a huge issue with soldiers because the medical community has made so many incredible advances that people lived that didn't live, you know, 30, 40 years ago. | ||
| So now these guys are living with some significant brain injuries. | ||
| And while we were doing one of these fundraisers, it was hitting me. | ||
| I was like, why? | ||
| The amount of billions and billions of dollars that are spent on this war, how the fuck could they not allocate a similar amount to take care of the soldiers? | ||
| It's because the soldiers don't have a voice. | ||
| Nobody gives a fuck for them. | ||
| Nobody cares. | ||
| So when these guys retire, there's not a lot of options. | ||
| And so I was trying to figure out, okay, why would a guy like Chris Kyle... | ||
| Make up all these stories. | ||
| He was talking about shooting carjackers in Texas. | ||
| That turned out to not be true. | ||
| He said he was shooting people in Katrina that were looting. | ||
| There was all these stories that didn't hold water. | ||
| And I was trying to think, do you think maybe this guy was trying to fabricate a bunch of crazy shit and put it in his book because it would make the book more sensational and sell and this would be a way that this guy could provide for his family. | ||
| Oh, you mean like bringing it back to the human level? | ||
| I'm sure. | ||
| But I mean, I keep going back to the people who just... | ||
| It's like, yeah, I feel for soldiers who come back with traumatic brain injuries. | ||
| But I do honestly think, especially, you know, dating a veteran who was in the initial invasion of Iraq and stuff, there are people who join the military because they want to kill people. | ||
| A lot of people join the military because they have no options. | ||
| A lot of people join the military because they believed in the Iraq War. | ||
| And the war on terror, and a lot of people just want to slaughter people, and I think Chris Kyle was one of those people, unfortunately. | ||
| Do you think you become one of those people once you get out there? | ||
| I think it's exacerbated, yeah, astronomically, yeah. | ||
| Once you shoot the first few people, like, I mean, that was a part of the movies that the first person you shot was a kid. | ||
| You know, first of all, the movie wasn't good, and I was really confused by that. | ||
| Really? | ||
| You didn't think it was good? | ||
| No. | ||
| I thought it was terrible. | ||
| I thought it was a terrible movie. | ||
| It just wasn't well done. | ||
| It was like a clunky, made-for-TV movie. | ||
| That's what it felt like to me. | ||
| Did you see it? | ||
| No. | ||
| It's not a good movie. | ||
| And Ari Shaffir was talking about how bad it was. | ||
| And I thought when Ari was saying that, that he was just being hypercritical. | ||
| Because Ari hates a lot of things that I like. | ||
| But I watched it, and I was like, this is not a good movie. | ||
| It's just not a good movie. | ||
| And, you know, Bradley Cooper's a really good actor, but it was wooden, I felt like. | ||
| I felt like it was just... | ||
| It didn't have a life to it. | ||
| But he had the ghost of Chris Kyle in him. | ||
| That's what he said in interviews. | ||
| Did he really say that? | ||
| He just felt like it was just... | ||
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Oh, man. | |
| Did he really say that? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's when I was like, oh, Bradley Cooper's a douchebag. | ||
| He's fucking going for it. | ||
| He's going for... | ||
| All in. | ||
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All in. | |
| Going for Hollywood superstardom. | ||
| He wants to be the guy. | ||
| Shoot right to the top. | ||
| The thing that... | ||
| It's not a good movie. | ||
| Yeah, and aside from just the movie being mad, I think it's just unfortunate to kind of personalize this character so much when, you know, ignoring... | ||
| Basically, people came out of the movie saying Iraqis are savages, and it was all, like, justified. | ||
| Because they're looking through the eyes of someone like Chris Kyle, when really, I mean, look at Iraq today. | ||
| Millions of refugees. | ||
| I mean, as I just said, the country is just completely destroyed. | ||
| And it's like, what about those people? | ||
| So it's important. | ||
| Yeah, we can humanize Chris Kyle. | ||
| And of course, we can humanize every soldier that's coming back because they were sold false pretenses to go to war. | ||
| But I just have to feel more for the for the people who are just the occupants of the country and they just were casualties of this mess. | ||
| Well, I think we should feel for all humans equally, especially people that we don't know and the idea that they're not as valuable because they live over there. | ||
| If there was something that happened over here where there was a foreign invasion that caused a million casualties from innocent civilians, we would be up in arms and horrified. | ||
| And I don't know what the real numbers are for the Iraq invasion because it's hard to figure it out. | ||
| There's a bunch of different argued numbers. | ||
| Let's say it's the lowball number, which is more than 100,000 innocent civilians. | ||
| That's horrific. | ||
| It's horrific to think that that's the lowball number, and the highball number is somewhere around, I think, 2 million. | ||
| You're going to have Sam Harris come on right after this and... | ||
| Sam is big on the lowball numbers. | ||
| Well, here's the problem, and this is all I'm going to say about Sam, because I know that you offered the debate, and I really appreciate that, and I really, really appreciate you offering that, because I know that we've been going back and forth on Twitter and shit. | ||
| What have you gone back and forth with him? | ||
| Oh, like, he actually wrote... | ||
| Or he, you know, just the fire hose of bullshit saying that all I was saying was like hyperbolic, sensational figures and stuff. | ||
| And the problem that I have with Sam Harris and debating him is that I don't feel like I should or need to debate a neuroscience about foreign policy. | ||
| I'm interested in what he has to say about neuroscience and interesting things about what he's studied, but as far as someone arguing with me about US foreign policy and empire, who's a neuroscientist, I don't see any reason that I would get out of that, especially someone who talks about mass casualties with zero empathy. | ||
| Well, I don't necessarily think he's talking about it with zero empathy. | ||
| I think what he's trying to do is... | ||
| Like a stone-cold killer. | ||
| Well, he's trying to be objective about the numbers and not interject emotions with it. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| But don't you think that he would say, why would I talk to someone who's a reporter about foreign policy? | ||
| No. | ||
| Journalists, I think, are much more credible than just like scientists who are just jumping in the mix, new atheism movement, and just being like, let's have a giant debate all about Islam. | ||
| I just don't get it. | ||
| But I mean, the information is kind of available to anybody in this day and age, right? | ||
| What he is, maybe he has a degree in neuroscience and he is a neuroscientist, but really he's an author. | ||
| He researches things and he talks about things and agree with him or disagree with him in the way he presents the numbers and the way he's presenting this argument. | ||
| I think... | ||
| There's a lot of debate as far as how many people died over there. | ||
| Here's the problem with him. | ||
| He nitpicked all my numbers saying that they were huge, but all he did was basically cite official casualty count numbers from the Pentagon. | ||
| It's like, do you think that's the fucking accurate number? | ||
| That's way worse. | ||
| Going to the lowest ball number of casualties and saying this is... | ||
| Well, I think he cited some other people as well. | ||
| And the high number that he was citing, I think, was around 200,000, right? | ||
| I don't remember. | ||
| I'm not good at recalling numbers. | ||
| Yeah, I just think it's funny that that's what he hammered in on, is me basically blowing up the numbers when he basically went to the most extreme, small calculations that have been determined by military personnel. | ||
| When basically, the General Dempsey said, we don't do body counts. | ||
| That's what he said during the Iraq War. | ||
| We don't do body counts. | ||
| So, yeah, it is really hard to tell how many people died, but the International Business Times did a study in 2006 that said a million were dead at that point. | ||
| So, yeah, it is hard. | ||
| And they include, but they include Shia and Sunni infighting as well, right? | ||
| Which is, a lot of it was caused by the Iraq War, which really triggered a huge amount of Civil unrest because there was a power struggle going on between the Sunni and the Shia, which was more under control when Saddam Hussein was in control of Iraq. | ||
| That is calculated in that casualty figure that's talked about when it comes to the Iraq war. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Basically, yeah. | ||
| And a direct result of like this. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| A direct result of the war. | ||
| And that's what brings it really high. | ||
| It's really bad. | ||
| And I think that's one of the things that he argues against, that you can't attribute that to the United States military invasion, because it's sort of a side effect of the military invasion, the civil war that's going on there. | ||
| Even though Cheney back in 1996 said, this is exactly what's going to happen if we invade Iraq. | ||
| Pieces of Iraq are going to fly off. | ||
| Saddam, we can never out him at this point because this is exactly what's going to happen. | ||
| So it's like, yeah, you can say that was just a... | ||
| The happenstance but the truth is everyone knew what was gonna happen so you know Well, I think that's what he's just saying that it's difficult to attribute that number to what the United States is responsible for because it's really civil war Based on a complete destabilization and destruction of an entire entire population an entire population that was run by an evil dictator and his homicidal sociopathic sons and And? | ||
| Yeah, I mean, it was all gross before that, too. | ||
| I mean, more people are dead now, but it was gross then, it's gross now. | ||
| The whole part of the world is terrifying. | ||
| You know, the thing about ISIS, did you see that shit where they blew up some ancient structures a couple days ago? | ||
| They blew up some ancient monuments. | ||
| Pull that up, because this is fucking terrifying. | ||
| They beheaded some guy who's the head of antiquities in Syria. | ||
| Apparently, this beloved guy who just was unwilling to bow to their demands, they behead this guy, and then they blew up some ancient monuments, some really well-preserved ancient structures that were, you know, archaeological treasures. | ||
| They're blowing these fucking things up. | ||
| Look at the Taliban blew up all those, like, Buddhist... | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Fucking... | ||
| Unbelievable. | ||
| They released the first images showing the destruction of the temple in Balsamene. | ||
| Fuck. | ||
| I don't know if I said that right. | ||
| It's just insane how rich ISIS is. | ||
| Like, they've just stolen so much equipment and money. | ||
| The whole ISIS thing is so disturbing because it's like a self-fulfilling prophecy. | ||
| Everyone's wanted this group of crazy Islamists that we can look at and be like, look, this is why we need this never-ending war. | ||
| And then ISIS just comes out of the shadows of destabilizing an entire region of the earth. | ||
| And this is what happens. | ||
| This is the manifestation of... | ||
| Well, this is what the tinfoil hat people have always been saying, the United States engineers. | ||
| The United States will prop up a country, prop up a military, and then go in and invade them. | ||
| Well, we've got to invade them. | ||
| They're dangerous. | ||
| Well, they're dangerous because we made them dangerous. | ||
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Yeah, exactly. | |
| This is the conspiracy theory, because you remember when Obama was on TV saying that we had to invade Syria? | ||
| Yes, only two years ago he was ready to bomb Assad. | ||
| And we were all like, what the fuck? | ||
| And the United States pretty much universally was like, fuck you. | ||
| We're not going to another place. | ||
| We're not going to start another war that we can't win. | ||
| And then the United States backed off. | ||
| They just let it go. | ||
| But then, coincidentally, the rise of ISIS. Like right when that happened. | ||
| I mean, fuck, man. | ||
| If you wanted to make a conspiracy theory, there's no better one than the ISIS one. | ||
| It's right in front of everybody's face. | ||
| It's adorable in how ridiculous it is. | ||
| And I'm not saying that it's a conspiracy theory. | ||
| I believe ISIS is real. | ||
| But it's amazing how quick it filled the void left by our hysteria to go into Syria. | ||
| There's a gas bombing and they're using poisonous gas. | ||
| That was the thing, right? | ||
| Poisonous gas. | ||
| There's rules how you're supposed to kill people. | ||
| Also, why is WMD the pretense that we should just go in and invade a country? | ||
| It's like, The Iraq war is so funny because people are like, we didn't find WMDs. | ||
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They lied. | |
| It's like, if we did find WMDs, would it have been justified then? | ||
| Just because Assad has chemical weapons. | ||
| Is that justified to go and fucking invade the country? | ||
| It's so weird. | ||
| There was a crazy hysteria, though, post 9-11 that was just undeniable. | ||
| There was a bloodlust in America. | ||
| They couldn't be ignored, and then they just pointed it at something. | ||
| Said, Iraq! | ||
| And we were over there before anybody was like, wait, wait, wait, what the fuck? | ||
| Iraq? | ||
| It didn't make any sense. | ||
| That had nothing to do with it. | ||
| Meanwhile, Saudi Arabia, which is where all the fucking hijackers came from, we were like, oil money, we like those guys. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Iraq, though, that guy's an asshole. | ||
| Look, his son's a piece of shit, and they've got oil. | ||
| Let's get over there! | ||
| Let's go! | ||
| And then we were over there. | ||
| Yeah, now we're in Syria with ISIS. And Obama just issued this statement saying, like, we can now attack Assad forces while battling ISIS if we need to. | ||
| So it's just another proxy war that's gotten completely out of hand. | ||
| And now we have, like, look at these people that were, like, training, too. | ||
| These FSA people and, like... | ||
| I mean, they're beheading people and shit too. | ||
| They're acting like ISIS. I mean, it's insane. | ||
| The FSA people? | ||
| Basically training all these Syrian revolutionaries, all these people in these rebel groups, and then they go over, they either abandon post after we spend a shitload of money training them to fight ISIS, or they join ISIS. It's a complete disaster. | ||
| Well, it's hard to get Muslims to fight against Muslims, you know, when their core values and their core beliefs and religion are so much a part of their life. | ||
| And then they have these people that are telling them that you're supposed to fight these people that have these same core values that celebrate Ramadan, that believe in halal. | ||
| They have the same ideas that these people have. | ||
| It's like, it's way easier to stick with them. | ||
| And some guy direct, some asshole directing you, McCain. | ||
| From America. | ||
| America? | ||
| The great Satan? | ||
| Those cunts? | ||
| You know, those fucking people that have killed a million people in Iraq? | ||
| Or whatever the number is? | ||
| Sam Harris? | ||
| You know, it's amazing. | ||
| It's just an amazing quagmire that we're in right now. | ||
| It's so interesting, though, when you look at every civil war that's happened in the last 10 years, like Libya, and then you have Ukraine going on, Syria. | ||
| McCain! | ||
| It's just always there. | ||
| Playing poker. | ||
| Holding up the hands of the people like in the fucking world. | ||
| You're like, what are you doing? | ||
| Who is paying you to be here? | ||
| It's bizarre. | ||
| My favorite time when they were voting on whether or not we should go into Syria and he was playing poker. | ||
| Yeah, on his phone. | ||
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Do you remember that? | |
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| He was just like kicking it on his phone. | ||
| How hilarious is that? | ||
| Could you imagine? | ||
| You're about to, you're a part of a military decision that who knows how many fucking people it's gonna kill, whether or not it's gonna trigger World War III, whether it's gonna trigger a new nuclear war, and he's playing poker on his phone. | ||
| He doesn't give a fuck. | ||
| He doesn't give a fuck. | ||
| Ice water running through his veins. | ||
| Just hanging out, just kicking it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Hee hee hee hee hee. | ||
| Oh, it's so adorable that he would do that, that he wouldn't think that people would know. | ||
| Holding on to a Sharpie, playing poker on his phone. | ||
| He's such a piece of shit. | ||
| He actually tweeted, like someone from his campaign, which is so hilarious, like tweeted at me saying, Thank you, Vladimir Putin. | ||
| I see that you're, like, paying attention to what I'm doing. | ||
| And he, like, basically called me... | ||
| It was, like, a report that I did. | ||
| And I was like, thank you, John McCain, you senile motherfucker. | ||
| You just, like, tweeted out a scathing report about your war crimes to, like, all of your stupid followers on Twitter. | ||
| Some idiot running your campaign, like, tweeted out this video that just exposed the fuck out of him. | ||
| It was great. | ||
| That's hilarious. | ||
| So you tweeted something and he responded to it? | ||
| I did a giant video just breaking down what, like, a scumbag he is. | ||
| And he tweeted it out. | ||
| Oh, so you didn't even tweet it. | ||
| He just tweeted your video out. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Yeah, it was great. | ||
| Well, that's called damage control, Abimar. | ||
| You don't understand. | ||
| You've got to ridicule the information. | ||
| It's Vladimir Putin. | ||
| Vladimir continues his attacks against me. | ||
| That's what he said. | ||
| I'm honored. | ||
| That's hilarious. | ||
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Vladimir running RT. Vladimir running my show, apparently. | |
| Did you ever meet that dude? | ||
| You never met him, did you? | ||
| No, dude. | ||
| What'd you feel like? | ||
| That would be a trip. | ||
| Like the fucking Dark Lord. | ||
| Because it's just fucking KGB, motherfucker, you know? | ||
| It's so funny watching him. | ||
| Every time he does a sit-down, he always just says the weirdest shit. | ||
| He's just on another level. | ||
| Like Obama tried to crack a joke with him. | ||
| They were sitting at some press conference and it's him and Obama sitting there and he just like looks at Obama and he's like, you're trying to make this funny right now and it's not or something like just like completely Obama's like sitting there nervously laughing. | ||
| He was just like stop doing this be serious. | ||
| You're like, okay He's killed a lot more people personally than Obama. | ||
| I'm sure how many people do you think that guy's killed? | ||
| Obama's killed a shitloader. | ||
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Are you kidding? | |
| Obama? | ||
| But not with his own hands. | ||
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He hasn't been pulling triggers. | |
| Oh, yeah, to KGB, yeah. | ||
| Knife on anybody. | ||
| Who the fuck knows how crazy that shit is? | ||
| How many has he done himself? | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| How many has he personally killed? | ||
| Yeah, definitely. | ||
| Couple. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| KGB. Obama was no CIA goon, that's for sure. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, like, at least George Bush's dad, Herbert Walker Bush, was the head of the CIA. That was a real killer, right? | ||
| Yeah, he was a real stone-cold motherfucker. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Putin, that's a fucking guy. | ||
| He's winking with the wrong eye, too. | ||
| I don't trust that. | ||
| Dominant left eye? | ||
| What kind of creepy shit is that? | ||
| Holding the gun with the right hand, squeezing the trigger. | ||
| I like the photo of the glasses. | ||
| It always shows those reflecting eyes. | ||
| Well, you remember when that guy who's the guy that got murdered in broad daylight with his girlfriend that was Nobody remembers that's that's what happens when you kill Putin people just forget your name and it just Water under the bridge just vanish. | ||
| That's a fucking crazy country right now Roy Jones Jr. is going to be a citizen. | ||
| Roy Jones Jr. is going to be a citizen in Russia. | ||
| Apparently, this is what he said, which is fucking hilarious. | ||
| He goes, the people of Russia love Roy Jones Jr. I love it when people love me. | ||
| It's like the dude who went to North Korea. | ||
| Wait, who was that basketball player? | ||
| Dennis Rodman. | ||
| He was just like, what up? | ||
| I loved here. | ||
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They like me. | |
| He's like, they love basketball. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| What the fuck are you? | ||
| Well, I guess Roy Jones has a career over there. | ||
| He's boxed over there a few times, and they like his music. | ||
| He plays music over there, and apparently they enjoy that music. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, that's good. | ||
| Roy Jones Jr. is going to get citizenship. | ||
| They're going to give him citizenship. | ||
| Good for him. | ||
| Edward Snowden, you get a year visa. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You get a visa for a year. | ||
| I wonder what the fuck's going to happen, Edward Snowden. | ||
| He's probably sucking some KGB dick right now just to keep his visa going. | ||
| Imagine the shit they make that guy do just to stay there. | ||
| I'm sure nothing, dude. | ||
| They'd probably just love that he's there, don't you think? | ||
| Just a thorn in the side? | ||
| Maybe, but he can't go anywhere. | ||
| I mean, it's not like he can't go anywhere. | ||
| No. | ||
| He probably has to hide while he's even in Russia, just for fear of American agents just taking him out. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| More honeypots. | ||
| What a fucking crazy life. | ||
| And what's even crazier about it, there's not a goddamn person I've talked to that thinks he did anything wrong. | ||
| Like what he did was expose a crime. | ||
| He was so careful, too. | ||
| He was just like, you know, let all the journalists vet everything. | ||
| He was just like, please make sure that there's no... | ||
| Didn't matter. | ||
| No one's being jeopardized. | ||
| Not only that, you remember the Hope and Change website? | ||
| The Hope and Change website that Obama had when he was running for president had a whole piece in there about supporting whistleblowers. | ||
| And transparency. | ||
| Transparency and supporting whistleblowers. | ||
| When he's persecuted more than any other president under the Espionage Act. | ||
| What happens when you get in there? | ||
| Do they just show you fucking UFOs landing on the North Pole? | ||
| What do they show you? | ||
| They show you where all the bombs are being planted by... | ||
| I think that you're so... | ||
| Someone who was as young and impressionable as Obama at that time... | ||
| I think he was vetted really early when he was at Harvard. | ||
| And I think that he just was so fucking young. | ||
| I mean, what? | ||
| He was barely even a senator for a term, right? | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| And he just gets plucked out of obscurity and catapulted to the presidency. | ||
| And then he's just surrounded by a bunch of fucking... | ||
| I'm not excusing him at all. | ||
| I think he's a war criminal and I really strongly dislike Obama. | ||
| I think he's like a great manipulator. | ||
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You're a bit of a lefty there, Abby Martin. | |
| But I definitely think that, God, can you imagine who was just surrounding him at all times? | ||
| Like he had Hillary Clinton barking in his ear, McCain, like these crazy neocons who are just like, we need more war. | ||
| And I think that you saw all the neocon establishment really promoting Obama until the Syria thing happened where we backed down. | ||
| And that's where you kind of saw this like ridiculous schism where now Netanyahu is coming to visit and it's like this crazy where Obama is like weak now. | ||
| So that's been an interesting... | ||
| Obama's weak now? | ||
| Or they basically were like, they were pissed off about the Syria thing. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, they were like, look, we're about to have a civil war in America. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This would get ugly. | ||
| If they invaded Syria, who the fuck knows what would have happened? | ||
| It would have gotten really ugly in this country. | ||
| It's the most... | ||
| Whoever would be the most dominant militant force on the ground would rise to power, just like... | ||
| I mean, look at Libya, for fuck's sake. | ||
| Mm-hmm. | ||
| Yeah, Libya is a disaster. | ||
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When there's a vacuum. | |
| Total disaster, near failed state. | ||
| It's a disaster now. | ||
| It's a terrifying place now, apparently. | ||
| So it's like, yeah, no one's... | ||
| I don't think anyone's really defending Assad, but it's about people's sovereignty. | ||
| But isn't that amazing that a guy like... | ||
| You look at these dictators and you say, well, no one wants Gaddafi to stay in power. | ||
| Obviously, it's bad to have Gaddafi there. | ||
| And when Gaddafi got killed, first of all, it was one of the most... | ||
| Bizarre and strange moments in social media and in the power of cell phone videos and the ability to distribute information. | ||
| The fact that they had video of this guy. | ||
| Getting raped by a bayonet. | ||
| Yeah, and the moments he's dying, like the moments they captured him, and they're all screaming, and you're seeing something that no one has ever seen before. | ||
| No one's ever seen a dictator captured by rebels. | ||
| It's happened. | ||
| Yeah, never on a fucking cell phone. | ||
| It's never been documented and then distributed to everybody. | ||
| I mean, we could all watch it. | ||
| We could watch it right now. | ||
| Jamie could pull it up right now, and we could kick back from the comfort of this Woodland Hills office suite and watch this fucking guy get bayoneted in his asshole. | ||
| Yeah, and it's horrifying. | ||
| You know, this disaster porn that's put out there by like JSOC in this video. | ||
| And yeah, I know the US didn't film the video, but it was showed everywhere. | ||
| And we also released photos of Saddam's sons with all the bullet holes in them on TV and shit. | ||
| And we're like, look, like, look what we did. | ||
| That's fucking sick, man. | ||
| And, you know, we can see ISIS videos all day long of these crazy Hollywood style sets where people are getting beheaded and it's like in Gitmo jumpsuits and it's like this crazy fucking manifestation of like Hollywood culture and the military industrial complex rolled into one. | ||
| But at the same time, you have our military uploading every drone strike on a fucking YouTube channel. | ||
| What are they? | ||
| What the? | ||
| Including ones that kill civilians. | ||
| Oh, absolutely. | ||
| It's like, just in case you're wondering what we're doing, you can watch our YouTube channel and see all the people we're killing. | ||
| It's really weird. | ||
| Well, it's horrific that when you watch the decision making, should we shoot? | ||
| Should we shoot? | ||
| Let's just shoot. | ||
| Like, whoa, it's that, like that. | ||
| You're like trying to figure it out on the fly. | ||
| And then you realize this is what precision drone strikes are all about. | ||
| There's nothing precise about it. | ||
| This is not surgical. | ||
| It's like you have a bad person that may or may not be in this area. | ||
| You have good information that the bad person's in this area. | ||
| Let the missiles fly. | ||
| And they fly and then everybody who's anywhere near that guy gets fucked up too. | ||
| And we're just supposed to accept that because that's just a bad person. | ||
| We need to get them out. | ||
| We need to take out the bad person. | ||
| If other bad people... | ||
| Aren't we a bad person if we're killing innocent people? | ||
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It's just the most ridiculous cycle of shit. | |
| I mean, it's good to want to protect us against bad people, but that way is bad. | ||
| Like, that's a bad way. | ||
| Are you saying you have a better way? | ||
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No. | |
| I don't have a better way. | ||
| I don't have a better way. | ||
| All I know is that ISIS has gotten a shitload of US military equipment and billions of dollars. | ||
| So maybe we should stop just a bit like, you know, all of the stuff that we've tried to train the Iraqi army, like it isn't working because they're abandoning posts and like ISIS is just taking large swaths of like equipment and Humvees and grenade launchers and shit. | ||
| So, I mean, when I look at stuff like that happening, it's just like we just need to remove ourselves from the situation and let like allied states that are in the area really take hold of Of what's going on. | ||
| Is that the way to do it? | ||
| I mean, is there justifiable war in your eyes? | ||
| No. | ||
| Oh, you mean just in general? | ||
| If you look at what's going on with ISIS right now, I mean, when they're decapitating the Syrian head of antiquities and blowing up these ancient, cherished monuments, is there justifiable war? | ||
| Are these bad guys? | ||
| Can you go in there and stop these bad guys? | ||
| I don't think there is a justifiable war. | ||
| Well, war with ISIS because ISIS was created out of the vacuum of just a large war and countless casualties and refugees and the civil war thing that happened there. | ||
| So I think that ISIS is a direct result of US military intervention. | ||
| So I think that more US military intervention to stop ISIS is just going to exacerbate the problem. | ||
| And I definitely do not think that that should be an option whatsoever. | ||
| Right, but what do you do? | ||
| Do you let them take over and just start killing more people? | ||
| See, this is the trick. | ||
| This is the trick. | ||
| It's always going to be something. | ||
| First it was al-Qaeda, now it's like ISIS is pulling at people's heartstrings so much because they're seeing these crazy images and it's like, how can we just sit back and do nothing? | ||
| The thing is, there's genocides happening in the Congo. | ||
| Are we going to go invade and take out... | ||
| I mean, it's just like, why are we picking and choosing what we're putting in front of the TV screens and brainwashing everyone and saying, what are you going to do about ISIS? First it was fucking Ebola. | ||
| What happened to Ebola? | ||
| That was all over the fucking TV for a year. | ||
| I think we cured it. | ||
| American ingenuity. | ||
| There's so much going on, I just think, to hone in on ISIS and just say, like, we all need to focus on destroying ISIS militarily is just a farce, because A, it came out of military intervention, and B, we're not going to fucking destroy ISIS. It's just going to galvanize more people to join ISIS. That's why their recruiting is so high across the world. | ||
| People are just like, fuck this. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| They're being drawn to ISIS because of the endless warfare going on. | ||
| So I just think, I don't have the answers. | ||
| I do think that regional players need to take a step in. | ||
| That means Syria, that means Iraq, people in the region that understand the region and are not coming from this neocolonial lens and just like, all we have is military solutions because that's all we fucking know! | ||
| Because we're the fucking empire! | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Chris Kyle, rest in peace. | ||
| I don't think that there's any clear solution, and I think that's a real part of the problem. | ||
| I think that everybody who looks at ISIS decapitating this Syria head of antiquities and blowing up monuments and lighting people on fire with slow motion. | ||
| I mean, did you see that video that they did where they have slow motion video cameras, like complicated techniques, where they're showing these people getting It lit on fire. | ||
| I mean, what they're doing is promoting terror. | ||
| They're trying to scare people, and they're doing it with these videos. | ||
| The videos of decapitations and assassinations. | ||
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And why do we keep seeing the videos? | |
| Isn't it weird that the news just keeps... | ||
| Put them on YouTube. | ||
| But I mean, the news keeps playing them. | ||
| If it bleeds, it leads. | ||
| You used to be on the news, girl. | ||
| You know how it is. | ||
| I'm starting a new show. | ||
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What are you doing? | |
| The Empire Files. | ||
| Starting in... | ||
| The Empire Files. | ||
| ...a week and a half, launching. | ||
| It's like some fucking counterculture type shit. | ||
| Oh, yeah, man. | ||
| What are you trying to do with this Empire Files? | ||
| Trying to fucking dissect the Empire. | ||
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The Empire. | |
| Trying to strip away the layers of the Empire. | ||
| How did we get here? | ||
| Where do we go from here? | ||
| How do we... | ||
| Where do we go from here? | ||
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Mushrooms? | |
| Aliens? | ||
| Something. | ||
| So it's funny because I'm jumping from Russia state television to Latin American owned TV. Who owns this one? | ||
| Hugo Chavez from the grave. | ||
| 51% Venezuela and then you have a 49% block of like Argentina and Cuba and Costa Rica and Nicaragua and stuff. | ||
| So it's like a 49% owned. | ||
| So it's a giant Latin American block that has Telesor, which is the network. | ||
| And Chris Hedges just launched a show on it and now I'm launching one called The Empire Files and it's gonna be really great. | ||
| Everyone check it out. | ||
| We have all the social media up ready to go. | ||
| So what's the name of the network? | ||
| Telesaur. | ||
| Telesaur? | ||
| S-O-R? S-U-R. S-U-R? And how do you get it? | ||
| Do you get it online or do you get it on... | ||
| Unfortunately, unlike RT, it's not in as many households on TV and cable. | ||
| So you can just watch it on YouTube or if you're in Latin America, you can watch on Telesaur. | ||
| So they upload everything to YouTube? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, that's beautiful. | ||
| That's all you need. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| So you just basically use them for a studio. | ||
| Using their resources to help get the information out about the crazy empire we're living in. | ||
| So, like, what kind of shit are you going to do? | ||
| Like investigative reporting type shit? | ||
| You're going to fly over to these horrible places? | ||
| So, yes, investigative reporting weekly. | ||
| Crimea? | ||
| They're going to finally get you in Crimea? | ||
| Ship me there. | ||
| Boots on the ground. | ||
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She needs to be on the ground in Crimea. | |
| For people who don't know. | ||
| See firsthand. | ||
| There was a report when Abby was working for RT, which is Russia Today. | ||
| She did this very critical piece on Crimea and what was going on over there in the Ukraine. | ||
| And they were going to send her, or they said they were going to send her to Crimea. | ||
| And she was like, the fuck you are. | ||
| I live in America, bitch. | ||
| I ain't going over there. | ||
| Yeah, just send all vetted Russians and shit, like, go over and you're just like, here's, you know what I mean? | ||
| I could just imagine how it would be. | ||
| It would just be like when, did you ever see when Shane Smith went to North Korea and they had, like, fake restaurants set up for them? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Yeah, they would just set it up for you. | ||
| I wanted to talk about the anniversary of the atomic bombs. | ||
| Okay, sure. | ||
| What do you think about that? | ||
| Well, I think it's a fascinating moment in history. | ||
| I mean, an amazing moment. | ||
| What amazes me more than anything is that we haven't blown up an atomic bomb since 1947. That's the most amazing thing. | ||
| Somehow or another, we have had the brains to go, like, what is that, 60, 70, 66, 68 years? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Whatever the fuck it is. | ||
| Yeah, long time. | ||
| 68 years without lighting in these buddies fucking city so it glows in the dark. | ||
| That's kind of crazy. | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| But what's truly amazing is how much ignorance was involved in the testing process, the initial bombs that they blew up in the desert where they had soldiers run at the bombs. | ||
| Did you ever see those videos? | ||
| Yeah, but they just put on a little, like... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like the thing where you're looking at a solar eclipse. | ||
| They're just like, put up your cardboard glasses, kids, and watch the fog. | ||
| It's like 10 feet. | ||
| Well, they had these ones where they would blow up these fake cities, and they would have these guys in a trench. | ||
| They would blow up the fake cities, and they would jump out of the trench and then run towards the blast. | ||
| You've never seen that? | ||
| No, just to see how it affects them. | ||
| See if you can find those, Jamie, because they're amazing. | ||
| No, they didn't do it because they didn't think it was going to affect them. | ||
| They were teaching them to run towards the blast. | ||
| The idea would be that this nuclear bomb would go off, everybody would be disoriented and fucked up, and that these American G.I.s would run in there and take over! | ||
| But these guys all died. | ||
| Not only did they die, but John Wayne died. | ||
| The bomb killed John Wayne. | ||
| I don't know if you know that. | ||
| No one knows that. | ||
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That's... | |
| The bomb killed the fucking greatest American actor of all time. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| The bomb killed the man who played Genghis Khan. | ||
| Does everyone realize? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So this is what they would do. | ||
| They would all get in these trenches. | ||
| I mean, these are the actual trenches. | ||
| I mean, it's unbelievable. | ||
| It's horrific. | ||
| That they had these poor fucking soldiers. | ||
| Look at their old helmets. | ||
| Yeah, it was ridiculous. | ||
| So these guys, they're playing cards and shit. | ||
| I'm fucking, I'm winning just like John McCain. | ||
| And so they blow these things off. | ||
| And when you watch the impact, look at these guys are just ducking their head. | ||
| Dude. | ||
| How close was it? | ||
| Close enough that you see the blast like super clearly. | ||
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Okay. | |
| So they have these fake bodies out there. | ||
| Like they're all like drawn Japanese too. | ||
| So rude. | ||
| So watch how this goes off. | ||
| So racist. | ||
| They set it off. | ||
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Boom! | |
| Holy shit. | ||
| And then the guys get up. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| It's right in front of them. | ||
| I mean, what is it? | ||
| Five miles away? | ||
| Six miles away? | ||
| Whatever it is. | ||
| But look, the impact hits them. | ||
| And then they're closing their ears. | ||
| And then they run towards the blast. | ||
| And those guys are all dead. | ||
| All of them. | ||
| And they died young. | ||
| See, the blast hits them. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| This is all nuclear radiation. | ||
| Intense, super high doses of nuclear radiation. | ||
| So who knows what happened. | ||
| I mean, I'm sure a good percentage of them died of horrific cancer. | ||
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That's awful. | |
| A few outliers survived because of freak genes. | ||
| But most of those guys, just like the Gipper. | ||
| Not the Gipper. | ||
| What was he? | ||
| What was it? | ||
| It was John Wayne. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| They're just running toward it. | ||
| Ronald Reagan was the Gipper. | ||
| What was John Wayne? | ||
| Fucking ridiculous. | ||
| My god look at like the not just the plume, but those crazy like light or smoke formations to the left You know what my favorite one is the one that they did in the ocean Yeah, the one they didn't really know how much of an impact it was gonna have they fucking just tried shit Yeah, | ||
| you know just like they tried this see if you could find the ocean the video of the ocean nuclear explosions that they did I think they did it off of Guam I think that's where it was I don't remember though, but they they had all these Battleships that they stationed around where the bombs would go off. | ||
| And when they did it, everything got fucked up. | ||
| I mean, everything anywhere near it got fucked up. | ||
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Go full screen. | |
| Oh my god! | ||
| Look at this, how it comes out of the water. | ||
| I mean, you're talking about like a mile of water straight up in the air and just engulfs that battleship. | ||
| Yeah, that battleship got fucked up. | ||
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John Wayne was the duke, by the way. | |
| The duke. | ||
| A fucking tsunami after that? | ||
| Like, what the hell? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| I mean, well, it went straight up and straight down, but I'm sure it had incredible repercussions. | ||
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That is outrageous. | |
| But look at it. | ||
| They had no idea. | ||
| I mean, they didn't want to waste that battleship. | ||
| They were trying to blow some stuff up underwater and wonder how close they could be while it was happening. | ||
| Turns out, not close at all. | ||
| Well, here's what they did know, is that the atomic bomb would obliterate, incinerate tens of thousands of lives in an instant. | ||
| And I think it's one of the greatest war crimes ever perpetuated on humanity. | ||
| And I think it's one of the greatest crimes against humanity that's ever been done. | ||
| And whenever I say this, I went to Japan last year and went to the Hiroshima museum with an in utero blast survivor. | ||
| And it was one of the most intense museums I've ever been to. | ||
| In utero? | ||
| In utero? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So it was in his mother's stomach when the blast hit. | ||
| And she was right there. | ||
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Whoa. | |
| It was just like a random chance that she just survived and he happens to be fine. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Does he have any superpowers? | ||
| This wicked good hearing. | ||
| His arms stretch. | ||
| Yeah, right? | ||
| I wish that's what it was like. | ||
| It's just a really, really horrifying museum because we grow up... | ||
| That is probably the biggest myth that we grow up learning is that the bombs were necessary to end the war and that they saved lives and It's just like a way to legitimize a really horrific atrocity. | ||
| Two of them, actually. | ||
| Well, the issue is that Japan was already willing to surrender and that we didn't want them to surrender because we wanted to try the bombs out. | ||
| Whether or not that's true, that's the big debate. | ||
| And that's something that a lot of people... | ||
| We still to this day argue back and forth on whether or not it's actually the case. | ||
| If it is the case, it's even more horrific, because just like what they wanted to do in the ocean, where they tried that bomb out and watched a mile-high wave of water overcome that fucking battleship, they wanted to see what happens when you drop that shit on a city. | ||
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And they dropped it on two... | |
| Yeah. | ||
| It isn't actually for debate anymore. | ||
| And this is a problem. | ||
| It's just like the Iraq war. | ||
| It's just these people kind of holding on to this last ditch like gasp of air just to hold on to like American exceptionalism. | ||
| And it really just is totally debunked at this point because even Truman himself instilled an atomic bomb survey. | ||
| University of Colorado featured a compilation of just like dozens of American military experts and leaders Internal interviews, diaries, other declassified materials basically involved in the bomb decision and all of them had one unanimous commonality among them that every single one said the bomb was not of military necessity and it did not need to happen for the surrender that Japan was ready to surrender. | ||
| Because if you remember, I think like 100,000 or maybe 80,000 people were incinerated in Tokyo just weeks prior with the firebombing. | ||
| So the US had already dropped all these bombs, basically eviscerated Tokyo. | ||
| And so countless people died. | ||
| Way more people actually died then in the initial atomic bomb drops. | ||
| So it's just a really, really unfortunate kind of thing that's perpetuated and people just still hold on to it. | ||
| You know, they say it would have saved lives. | ||
| It's like, well, it would have saved U.S. soldiers' lives, but instead it took like probably half a million Japanese, if you look at the countless maimed and radiation poisoning. | ||
| I mean, I think like 80,000 died instantly with the incineration of the blasts. | ||
| I think in each city. | ||
| In each city was something around that. | ||
| Yeah, it's awful. | ||
| The only argument that could be said that it saved lives is that it kept other people from using nuclear weapons because they're so horrific. | ||
| Otherwise, you look at all the war that has taken place since 1947 and not one person has used a nuclear bomb, it could be argued that it was because how horrific that was when it did happen. | ||
| But that's not a really good argument. | ||
| And it's also, like, irritating that the U.S. is the one fear-mongering the world about, like, he can't have a nuclear bomb, he can, he can't, and it's like, well, you guys are the only ones who've only used them twice, so why are we the arbitrators of who and who cannot utilize nuclear weapons? | ||
| Well, we're righteous, and plus, we're one nation under God. | ||
| Chris Kyle, rest in peace. | ||
| Do you know that we're under God? | ||
| We are. | ||
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We are. | |
| And, you know, most people don't even know that we became one nation under God after the commie scare in the 1950s. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, the McCarthy scare is what led them to add that to the Pledge of Allegiance. | ||
| No fucking way. | ||
| I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. | ||
| One nation indivisible for liberty and justice. | ||
| They had one nation under God indivisible. | ||
| They had to add that to it. | ||
| They had to add that to it because of the commie scare. | ||
| That's unreal. | ||
| That's the 1950s. | ||
| That's unreal. | ||
| Yeah, before that, before the McCarthy hearings, they didn't have under God. | ||
| It's a stupid thing to have. | ||
| Oh, it's insane. | ||
| What about people that believe in Buddha? | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's not under them. | ||
| It's funny that we changed it then. | ||
| I just assumed that that was from the OG. They're going to change it again to one nation under Chris Kyle. | ||
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That's the new thing. | |
| Did you know that? | ||
| The Chris Giles thing is so crazy because it's like, I don't think Jesse Ventura got like threats saying they're going to cut his dick in half. | ||
| Well, they did. | ||
| No, he did. | ||
| He got a lot of horrible death. | ||
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His dick? | |
| Dick threats? | ||
| I'm sure. | ||
| If I had to guess. | ||
| Rape threats? | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| I think there was a lot of like rape and misogynist shit. | ||
| People don't know what happened, though. | ||
| So explain the Jesse Ventura thing because a lot of folks aren't aware. | ||
| So Jesse Ventura, obviously badass Navy SEAL, epic man. | ||
| Well, he was pre-Navy SEAL. It was before it was... | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| I thought they were both... | ||
| He wasn't a Navy SEAL. There was another name for it. | ||
| Oh, like before... | ||
| Yeah, because he was in the Vietnam era. | ||
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A cadet? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, I forget what. | ||
| I'll find out. | ||
| So Jesse Ventura, total badass, like the opposite of Chris Kyle, right? | ||
| He's like against war. | ||
| He's really on point. | ||
| So anyway, in Chris Kyle's book... | ||
| That's one of the greatest lines ever in a movie. | ||
| Slack-jawed faggots. | ||
| Is that in Predator? | ||
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No. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| So, he, in Chris Kyle's book, it makes up this giant bar fight that he, like, beat up Jesse Ventura. | ||
| And if you know who Jesse Ventura is, like, he's fucking like a brick house. | ||
| Well, he's an older gentleman, too. | ||
| I mean, he was born in 1951, I think. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But still. | ||
| It's like, if you're gonna fucking go out there and say that you beat the shit out of Jesse Ventura, you, like, socked him in a bar... | ||
| It might be a bad idea. | ||
| Well, here's what happened. | ||
| In the book, he wasn't referred to as Jesse Ventura. | ||
| He was referred to as Scruffy. | ||
| He called him Scruffy. | ||
| And he was saying that this guy was some celebrity they had beat up because this guy had said something bad about Navy SEALs. | ||
| So Chris Kyle came along and socked him for America. | ||
| He was UDT, the underwater demolition team, the original SEALs. | ||
| So he said on the Opie and Anthony show that it was Chris Kyle. | ||
| Chris Kyle said that it was Jesse Ventura. | ||
| That's when he was goaded into saying who the guy was. | ||
| I believe it was Opie and Anthony, I'm pretty sure. | ||
| And in that, that's when Jesse Ventura said, what? | ||
| You didn't fucking hit me. | ||
| Like, we didn't get in a fight. | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| And Jesse Ventura sued him and won. | ||
| And won $1.8 million. | ||
| There it is. | ||
| Jesse Ventura wins $1.8 million in damages against Chris Kyle, slain Navy SEAL sniper. | ||
| And here's the issue, was that he gave Chris Kyle the option to just admit... | ||
| Retract it? | ||
| Just to retract it, admit you're wrong, and I'll drop the case. | ||
| No way. | ||
| Chris Kyle wouldn't do it. | ||
| No fucking... | ||
| And then he was killed. | ||
| Chris Kyle was killed by some poor kid with PTSD. Poor kid. | ||
| Asshole murderer. | ||
| He's a murderer too. | ||
| Just another guy that fucked up. | ||
| I mean, murdered Chris Kyle for no reason. | ||
| He said PTSD, shot him, shot the other guy that was with him, stole his truck. | ||
| I mean, he was fucked. | ||
| War of that scale obviously fucks people's head up. | ||
| And when he died, Jesse Ventura continued with the lawsuit. | ||
| And that's where he got criticized. | ||
| And those people were like, you're suing the widow and all this shit. | ||
| Well, he said he was suing the book company. | ||
| He said, he goes, I'm suing everybody that's profiting off of this lie. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And his take on it was people also should be aware of the truth of what this guy didn't just lie about that, but he lied. | ||
| I mean, Jesse Ventura did several interviews. | ||
| We were talking about all the different lies. | ||
| There's more than one lie in that book. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| It doesn't mean that there aren't heroes. | ||
| It doesn't mean that the military is bad. | ||
| It doesn't mean that there aren't people that genuinely go into the military, like I'm sure your boyfriend did, thinking that they're going to do good, that they have these ideals that they want to protect. | ||
| They want to protect liberty and they believe in the American way of life. | ||
| And then, you know, it all gets convoluted because you're either with us or against us. | ||
| You're with us or against us? | ||
| It's not. | ||
| It's not. | ||
| That's not us. | ||
| What you're doing is not us. | ||
| Lies aren't us. | ||
| Murder's not us. | ||
| Shooting looters, that's not us. | ||
| The ruling class is not us. | ||
| These people who are making these decisions are not us. | ||
| I mean, we have more in solidarity with the people in Iraq than we do with the elite that are making these decisions. | ||
| Yeah, the people that are complete neocons, that are complete chicken hawks, that are outside of the consequences of war, that are the ones pulling the strings. | ||
| I think there's a big problem with just the militarization of our society where we have, you know, every sports game has this giant military just like drama thing going on where we put taxpayer sponsored fucking fighter jets flying over the stadiums and shit. | ||
| I mean, every single thing is militarized. | ||
| And we're when we're conditioned in this way to glorify the military so much that it becomes and especially when you're at the helm of the empire, that is the largest military force in the world that's consolidated like military superpower. | ||
| That's the only solution to everything. | ||
| Yeah, Ebola sent in the fucking military ISIS. | ||
| Let's bomb them more riots in the streets or like, you know, let's send in the fucking militarized riot cops who just got trained next to Israeli troops in Bahrain and It's like, good God. | ||
| I mean, we need to start really removing ourselves with this kind of militaristic, I don't know, characterization of our society because it's really fucking toxic, man. | ||
| Well, and also, it creates military problems abroad because the rest of the world identifies us with that as well. | ||
| And if we're doing shit like what we've done in the Iraq War, which, whatever the number is, whether it's Sam Harris's number, the one that he adheres to, or whether it's the one that the far left adheres to, It's a lot of fucking people. | ||
| It's a lot of fucking people died. | ||
| And those people, it creates, without a doubt, martyrs. | ||
| And it creates, without a doubt, support for the opposition. | ||
| Because we're looked at, in other parts of the world, as the dark empire. | ||
| And also, if they're Muslim and they support Muslim ideals, and then they see that these people, who are of a completely different faith, are attacking and invading their homeland, It's pretty easy to support that. | ||
| And then it just piles on, and next thing you know, we got a problem. | ||
| And we got a current problem, and we have a past problem, and we got a future problem. | ||
| And we have a military-industrial complex that's just fucking raking it in and loves problems. | ||
| Because problems means we get to make more missiles, and more missiles means more money, and it keeps going. | ||
| More money, more problems. | ||
| Did you ever see the Hunter S. Thompson documentary? | ||
| No. | ||
| It's a Gonzo, I think it was called. | ||
| Oh, no, I haven't. | ||
| I should. | ||
| It's great. | ||
| It's great. | ||
| It's a great documentary. | ||
| But one of the best parts about it was McGovern, when he was recounting his days with Hunter, when Hunter was writing that... | ||
| Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail, and he followed around the press corps for a year and wrote that book. | ||
| But McGovern was just talking about how he was just sick and tired of old men in air-conditioned buildings making decisions that are to send young men off to war. | ||
| And I'll just never forget the way he was saying that. | ||
| And you know, McGovern, when he was doing that, He was an old guy when they were doing that documentary. | ||
| He died in 2012. But he was old when they were doing that documentary. | ||
| And he was just, I'm just tired of it. | ||
| I'm tired of it. | ||
| And he died very shortly after that documentary was made. | ||
| So this is like some of the last days of his life. | ||
| And he ran for president in, was it the 70s? | ||
| 72, I think? | ||
| 70? | ||
| 72? | ||
| 72? | ||
| Whatever it was, but it was during the Vietnam War. | ||
| And it's just that kind of voice. | ||
| He didn't win. | ||
| One of the reasons why he didn't win is because his vice presidential candidate turned out that he had undergone shock therapy, electrical shock therapy, and kind of hid that from everybody, and it came out during the campaign. | ||
| But he was ahead. | ||
| McGovern was ahead. | ||
| And part of the reason why he was ahead was because Hunter was supporting him, and Hunter was writing for the Rolling Stone. | ||
| He would write crazy shit. | ||
| That was where... | ||
| He wrote about Ed Muskie, who was also running for president. | ||
| He was saying that Ed Muskie was bringing in Brazilian doctors and they were treating him for his Ibogaine addiction. | ||
| Whoa, being addicted to Ibogaine seems really intense. | ||
| No one even knew what Ibogaine was back then. | ||
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| Yeah, and that Ed Muskie was clearly exhibiting signs, and it was really funny because they interviewed Hunter on one of these, in the documentary, he's on one of these talk shows. | ||
| He goes, well, there was a rumor that Ed Muskie was addicted to Ibogaine, and I started the rumor. | ||
| But he was a journalist, but he wasn't. | ||
| I mean, he was a journalist, but he was writing fiction. | ||
| But he was like, I thought everybody knew. | ||
| I thought everybody knew it was bullshit. | ||
| He's my favorite of all time. | ||
| He's one of my favorite people that's ever lived. | ||
| And he knew it was bullshit, but he thought... | ||
| Other people knew it was bullshit, but he also knew that he could make an impact with this. | ||
| So he thought that Muskie was just this fucking ridiculous hack. | ||
| So he just mocked him and talked about him being under the throes of this addiction, that he had brought in this Brazilian doctor, and... | ||
| And then Muskie, like, had these breakdowns on the campaign trail, because he was dealing with the... | ||
| Because nobody had ever dealt with that kind of negativity from the press before. | ||
| Nobody ever running for president had dealt with just someone fabricating craziness about them. | ||
| And it's the pressure of this, you could tell he wasn't... | ||
| Like, I don't even know where to start. | ||
| Today, if you run for president and you don't have a thick skin, you can't deal with people getting mad at you on Twitter, making shit up about you in the HuffPost or whatever they would want to do, you really shouldn't be running for president. | ||
| You have to develop some sort of rhino skin at this point in time. | ||
| But back then, they were paper. | ||
| Those people didn't know what the fuck to do. | ||
| There had only been a few presidents that were on TV. And they don't have the billion dollar campaigns where they have a spin master trying to skew it all. | ||
| When you think about 1972, how many fucking presidential candidates had even been on television? | ||
| You know, just a few decades worth. | ||
| It was so recent. | ||
| It was all so fucking recent. | ||
| These poor bastards didn't know what to do. | ||
| Now look at it. | ||
| Now look at this fucking dog and pony show. | ||
| Now you get Obama doing the Marc Maron podcast. | ||
| That's super crazy, isn't it? | ||
| Bizarre. | ||
| Yeah, just going right to Vice and Marc Maron. | ||
| Did you listen to it? | ||
| No. | ||
| I listened to a little bit of it. | ||
| I just knew it was all going to be softballs and bullshit. | ||
| Of course, yeah. | ||
| And all about, you know, America uniting America. | ||
| It's just funny where Obama's going for the audience. | ||
| It's like Vice, you know, sitting down with Shane Smith and Mike Moran. | ||
| I mean, he has good people telling him where people are at. | ||
| Where are the youngins at? | ||
| Where are the youngins at? | ||
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Why don't you come in here and smoke a joint with me, Barack? | |
| Come on, Obama. | ||
| Sit down. | ||
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Are you fucking scared? | |
| The real podcast? | ||
| Let's do mushrooms. | ||
| Real drug experience? | ||
| Let's do just a little mushrooms. | ||
| Mike Rohn's child's play compared to this. | ||
| Well, I don't know if I would do it. | ||
| I would be real weird about it. | ||
| I mean, I would definitely do it if you wanted to do it, but I wouldn't pursue it. | ||
| But I just don't know what you could ever get out of that. | ||
| You're never going to get... | ||
| He's such a trained, like, evader. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Everything he'd say would just be... | ||
| Not only then, you would develop some serious fucking enemies if you really went for it. | ||
| Like, that is the last person in the world you want to put you in a book or a category, rather. | ||
| Like, this is, he's on the fuck with list. | ||
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| I travel too much! | ||
| Yeah, I mean arguably right up there the most powerful figurehead in the world if not the most powerful Certainly top four or five just thought of something really fucking crazy The bomb that we saw the atomic bomb that was obviously dropped on Hiroshima Nagasaki We have that's like fucking baby shit. | ||
| Yeah hydrogen. | ||
| Yeah 33 hundred times stronger I don't even understand. | ||
| 3,300. | ||
| What would that even do? | ||
| Picture what we just saw exploding that little battleship. | ||
| What the fuck? | ||
| Why do we have that? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
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I don't know. | |
| I mean, I guess we want to kill better. | ||
| Want to be better at it? | ||
| What's even more fucked up is the research they've done into antimatter weapons. | ||
| That's really crazy because we don't know whether or not this is just theoretical. | ||
| Bring me one of them alcoholic beverages too, young Jamie. | ||
| We don't know whether or not it's theoretical or whether this is actually proof of concept, whether antimatter can be developed into a weapon. | ||
| We do know there's research being done on it. | ||
| And when they do develop antimatter research... | ||
| I mean, when they do develop antimatter weapons, whether it's in our lifetime or in the future lifetimes, you're talking about a world destroyer. | ||
| We're talking about something they might just shoot over at Pluto. | ||
| Like, you know, it'll take nine years and we'll watch Pluto blow up from the sky just to see if we can do it. | ||
| That's very possible they might do that someday. | ||
| Just decide to launch it in some fucking planet. | ||
| Well, do you know that that's a justification? | ||
| I think the expectation for continuing the trillion dollars that they're going to spend just updating and refurbishing the nuclear arsenal is that they keep doubling down on the fucking Star Wars fantasy that Reagan had. | ||
| Gorbachev went to Reagan and he was like, let's disarm. | ||
| Let's fucking end it. | ||
| And Reagan was like, no, I'm senile and I want to create this giant Star Wars program that's going to like You know, like this shield in the sky and we're going to do this and that. | ||
| And everyone was like, all right, it's never gonna fucking work. | ||
| And of course it didn't. | ||
| But that's still like a justification to battle asteroids, to have these nuclear weapons here and continue to... | ||
| Yeah, like the video game asteroids. | ||
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I don't know what you're talking about. | |
| Well, you know, they say that if you do blow up an asteroid, the real issue is you're going to create more asteroids. | ||
| Right, it's going to just exist. | ||
| It's just mass. | ||
| Like, if you have something, you don't annihilate it. | ||
| If you have something that has mass, it's five miles across, you're going to develop a hundred, you know, half-mile ones or whatever, you know, or 500-yard ones. | ||
| And they're going to kill everybody, too. | ||
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| They're going to come down, it's going to rain metal and rock from the sky. | ||
| People that don't know what an asteroid is, a lot of them are iron. | ||
| They're metal. | ||
| They're just giant chunks of metal. | ||
| Hurling through fucking space. | ||
| It's a trip. | ||
| Well, here's a great theory for it, or a great conspiracy that it's actually true. | ||
| Fuck, I need to go pee. | ||
| Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. | ||
| Yeah, we're good. | ||
| No, go ahead, just do your pee and I'll have Jamie pull this up. | ||
| Pull up, I want you to pull up the Star Wars scientists that have been killed. | ||
| Star Wars scientists that have either been murdered or committed suicide. | ||
| Because what's really fascinating about the Star Wars program is I'll have to at least slightly reiterate this when young Abby Martin gets back because I don't think she is completely aware of this but when the Star Wars weapons defense system was created the idea behind it was the United States was going to create a military they were going to create some sort of a military solution with satellites that could shoot | ||
| these missiles out of the sky now While they were doing it they were spending fuck loads of money on this and apparently it was never effective and If you you could pull up the numbers just pull up like there's a list of all the Star Wars see if you could find a better article See like that who killed all the Star Wars? | ||
| Scientists here's see if you could find out could go to like a rents is rents legit R-E-N-S-E is not like a super conspiracy website Mysterious deaths of scientists. | ||
| Like, scientists killed. | ||
| Star Wars scientists murdered, killed. | ||
| But a giant number of them have all been killed. | ||
| Let's see... | ||
| I don't know, like, what's a good... | ||
| What's a good, like, website for this? | ||
| We should probably find a good one. | ||
| Because there's so many fucking goofy conspiracy theory websites that lump the Star Wars people in with chemtrails. | ||
| So, the... | ||
| The Star Wars program, the theory being, the Star Wars program was apparently never really effective. | ||
| And the scientists that were behind the Star Wars program, a fuckload of them died. | ||
| Like, by suicide, by murder, and there's a giant list of them. | ||
| And it's one of the most fascinating conspiracies in modern time. | ||
| You find it? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| These guys that knew, the people that knew, the scientists, the engineers, dead. | ||
| Like, almost all of them. | ||
| They all died, like, murdered, suicide, and, like, very, very suspicious. | ||
| Someone did, like, a number. | ||
| Like, you know, they did, like, a percentage. | ||
| Like, what are the odds that all these people were murdered? | ||
| And it's, like, a billion to one. | ||
| Yeah, well, they knew. | ||
| They all knew that it was bullshit. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| The Star Wars program, they had spent millions, untold billions of dollars to develop this completely ineffective system to shoot missiles out of the sky. | ||
| It was never proven to work, ever. | ||
| And those scientists are all dead as fuck! | ||
| Here it goes. | ||
| Dead scientists. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| There's the list. | ||
| Marconi scientists mystery. | ||
| The 1980s. | ||
| Over two dozen science graduates and experts working on the Marconi or Plessy? | ||
| How do you say that? | ||
| Plessy? | ||
| P-L-S-C-C-Y? Plessy, yeah. | ||
| Plessy. | ||
| S-S-S-Y? Defense systems died in mysterious circumstances, most appearing to be suicides. | ||
| The MOD denied these scientists had been involved in the classified Star Wars projects and that the deaths were in any way connected. | ||
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Ha ha. | |
| But look at how these guys died. | ||
| Look at this guy. | ||
| Computer programmer, Keith Bowden. | ||
| Scientists at Essex University engaged in work for Marconi, blah, blah, blah. | ||
| Circumstance of death. | ||
| Fatal car crash. | ||
| Vehicle went out of control across a dual carriageway and plunged into a disused railway line. | ||
| Police maintained he'd been drinking, but family and friends denied the allegation. | ||
| So what the fuck was it? | ||
| Where's the autopsy? | ||
| It's like coroner's accident. | ||
| Accident. | ||
| Here's another one. | ||
| Lieutenant Colonel Anthony Godley, expertise, head of work-study union at the Royal College of Military Science, circumstance of death, disappeared mysteriously. | ||
| Without explanation. | ||
| Presumed dead. | ||
| Okay, that's fucking nuts. | ||
| Expertise. | ||
| Radar designer and droughtsman. | ||
| Droughtsman? | ||
| I guess that's draftsman? | ||
| Droughtsman? | ||
| With Marconi. | ||
| Circumstance of death. | ||
| Death by shotgun blast at home. | ||
| Coroner's verdict. | ||
| Suicide. | ||
| Jonathan Walsh, 29. Expertise. | ||
| Digital communications expert who had worked at GEC and at British Telecom Secret Research Center at the blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. | ||
| He had expressed fears his life. | ||
| Yep, exactly. | ||
| Died a result of falling from a hotel room in West Africa while working for British Telecom. | ||
| He had expressed fears that his life was in danger. | ||
| Coroner's verdict, open. | ||
| And he just goes on and on and on. | ||
| Well, you know about David Kelly. | ||
| You see how he's scrolling? | ||
| Look at the upper right-hand corner. | ||
| Look how fucking long this list is. | ||
| Like, scroll down to the bottom of this list so you can see how many people were on this. | ||
| Yeah, oh my god. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| There's a lot of people that were attached to the Star Wars program. | ||
| All of them in the late 80s and the early 90s, dead as fuck. | ||
| Crazy, right? | ||
| Well, remember David Kelly? | ||
| The guy who basically said that there were no WMDs and shit, and then he was found dead. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| That's a fucking sketch. | ||
| There's a lot of those people. | ||
| That's what happens. | ||
| If the people are interested in going over to some place that we don't belong, killing people, the idea that they're not going to kill you because you want to stop them from killing people, that's crazy. | ||
| That's crazy talk. | ||
| That's a very good way to say it. | ||
| Well, I mean, how about Pat Tillman? | ||
| I mean, there's... | ||
| Pat Tillman's brother believes that Pat Tillman was killed because he was speaking up because he was a very public figure and then he was speaking out against the war. | ||
| You know, that's going back to the little Chris Cowell thing because every single myth that has been resurrected out of the Iraq invasion has been like, you know, the Pat Tillman thing. | ||
| They were so hard and on for Pat Tillman because he really was a fucking hero. | ||
| I mean, he's abandoning like a million dollar career. | ||
| To go fight, you know, because he really believed it. | ||
| And he's really fucking smart, and he realized that it was based on lies and shit, and he had this diary, and it's an incredible documentary that just talks about his transition, and people who knew him, and when he was changing his mind, and he had this diary all written up, and they fucking burned it, dude. | ||
| When they killed him, if they did, they say it was friendly fire, who knows? | ||
| But his brother thinks that it was targeted, I don't know. | ||
| But he definitely would have come out and been, like, another, like, Chomsky. | ||
| Like, he would have come out and said... | ||
| He would have been a figurehead against the war and he died from friendly fire and then they burned all of his shit. | ||
| They burned his diary so we can never know. | ||
| Is that true? | ||
| That is fucking true. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| And then look at the Jessica Lynch thing. | ||
| Remember her? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And they said she was raped and all of a sudden she was like the Iraqi like military was like helping her just put her in a hospital and like taking care of her. | ||
| And they've staged that whole like... | ||
| Rescue. | ||
| The narrative was that she was trapped and she was being kidnapped by the Iraqis and that the United States military went in and rescued her. | ||
| And she was this hero and she was paraded around on television, but she spoke out against it and she got death threats and she essentially vanished and she just went quiet on it and they never talked to her again. | ||
| It's so sad, too, because they chose her. | ||
| They're like, we're going to prop you up as this person. | ||
| And it's like, what are you? | ||
| She just got swept up in it. | ||
| It's just so crazy. | ||
| The idea that they would just do that to someone and force them in some sort of a situation like that. | ||
| I just don't understand why they would think that she would just play along. | ||
| I guess they just assume. | ||
| They're like, we're going to make a famous girl. | ||
| They're telling you to kill people. | ||
| They're telling you to do this. | ||
| They're telling you to do that. | ||
| And it was one of the first times that we had women in active duty, too. | ||
| In combat duty. | ||
| Yeah, totally. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| There's not a lot of... | ||
| I mean, when you're dealing with death and you're dealing with what you would call sanction murder, right? | ||
| I mean, that's what... | ||
| Look, if... | ||
| If you're in the military and you are supposed to go over there and shoot some bad guys, whether they're good or bad guys, you're going to go murder those people. | ||
| That's sanctioned murder. | ||
| And it's one of the weirdest things about civilization is that we salute sanctioned murder. | ||
| Murder is awful. | ||
| When you don't like someone and you kill them, we want to lock you up. | ||
| But if we tell you you can kill someone, as long as it's written down on paper and we all collectively agree, but we don't really collectively agree. | ||
| That's where it gets weird. | ||
| There's a small group of people that decide who you can and can't kill, and then everybody else has to fall in line. | ||
| Well, if those people were beyond reproach, if they were these incredibly enlightened people that had only our best wishes and hopes in mind and could not make a bad decision, Well, then it makes sense to just give in to them. | ||
| They're smarter than us. | ||
| We're the ants and they're the geniuses and we'll just follow along. | ||
| But that's not the case. | ||
| It's never been the case. | ||
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No. | |
| No. | ||
| And the thing that bothers me about the Obama administration is that he's feigned as this like transparency president. | ||
| You know, we talked about the whistleblower thing. | ||
| It's like everything's the opposite of what it is. | ||
| It's like this Orwellian new era where you have the NSA spying now like the Patriot Act sunsetted. | ||
| We think the Patriot Act's over it wasn't. | ||
| It was just that the clause that they were able to illegally spy on us through the NSA in the Patriot Act expired and then they just passed a new law to basically codify illegal spying just through another caveat. | ||
| It's called the Freedom Act. | ||
| Isn't that hilarious? | ||
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The Freedom Act is about to spy on you. | |
| And you can't vote against the Patriot Act either, because the name is just like, what are you, not a patriot? | ||
| You don't like freedom? | ||
| Not freedom? | ||
| No? | ||
| You want death? | ||
| What do you want, destruction? | ||
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You want the Prisoner Act to pass? | |
| The Freedom Act. | ||
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Oh my God. | |
| So for the last few years, it's like, yeah, of course we've been torturing people. | ||
| There's been wars. | ||
| There's been extrajudicial assassinations. | ||
| But never before has it been, like, openly codified and, like, legislated executively. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| So it's almost this weird era of normalization. | ||
| Conditioning where people just accept this as a new normal, like the empire and just the post 9-11 era. | ||
| We just do these things now. | ||
| And it's all legal, right? | ||
| It's legal because we've created all these legal caveats to do them. | ||
| So what is legal? | ||
| That's what it gets. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
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Weird. | |
| It's just like, what is legal and what's not legal? | ||
| If they write it down, it's legal. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And the Pentagon just issued this field manual to basically for all the branches in the military and in it, I guess, because citizen journalism is like on the rise and it's really hard to distinguish like who is like an official established journalist or not. | ||
| Or who's like embedded with the enemy. | ||
| And they basically said that journalists can be killed legally now by US military personnel. | ||
| Isn't that crazy? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's in the new Pentagon Army field now. | ||
| Well, that was one of the things that happened during the Obama administration. | ||
| They started assassinating American citizens without trial. | ||
| Yeah, I'm a fan of due process and the rule of law. | ||
| Well, as long as you're over there, though, they can just assassinate you. | ||
| Drone strikes, what have you. | ||
| I get it if they're absolutely honest and beyond reproach and the most enlightened beings in the world that are dictating what these actions would be. | ||
| I mean, if you have some fucking Hitler character over there and you want to assassinate him, I get it. | ||
| That makes sense to me. | ||
| Just keep us in the loop. | ||
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Just keep us in the loop. | |
| Send us a little memo and be like, look, we've got this fucking guy. | ||
| Hitler 2.0. | ||
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He's classified, Mrs. Martin. | |
| Didn't you work for Russia? | ||
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Weren't you Putin's boot on the ground? | |
| Vladimir Putin continues his attacks against me. | ||
| I'm like, John, pick the fuck up. | ||
| He's barely paying attention. | ||
| He had his aide do that while he was in the middle of poker. | ||
| Yeah, he doesn't know how to tweet. | ||
| Probably barely tweets. | ||
| It's insane. | ||
| Do you think he tweets? | ||
| I don't think Obama tweets either. | ||
| Do you think he tweets? | ||
| No. | ||
| He doesn't actually touch the keyboards. | ||
| I would hope he has better shit to do than fucking tweet. | ||
| It was Obama's tweeting emojis and smiley faces. | ||
| Imagine if Obama tweeted, just his only tweet, a smiley face, a pile of dog shit, and a gun. | ||
| Like, what does that mean? | ||
| He's like, that's my life. | ||
| What does it mean? | ||
| Everybody would dissect it forever. | ||
| When they look back at us in the future, when they, you know, civilizations 100, 200 years from now, look back at what we're, you know, when we look back at World War II and looking at these people that were running towards this bomb, you know, we look at them like, fuck, man, these poor bastards. | ||
| What are they going to think about us? | ||
| When is that gonna not be the case? | ||
| Yeah, I don't... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I was just thinking the other day about reality TV and how back in the day we had the fat lady at the circus and the bearded lady. | ||
| It's like we still have that. | ||
| It's just in the realm of reality television where we're trying to empathize with this fat lady, but really we're just watching a giant whale live her life and it's just like the circus. | ||
| And it's the same with horror movies and shit. | ||
| We don't have the Coliseum, but we still like people being ripped limb from limb. | ||
| And blood and fucking guts. | ||
| It's something about us. | ||
| And yeah, it's evolved through technology, but it's still that weird innate human trait that I don't really understand. | ||
| Yeah, we love oddities, and we also love people suffering when we're not, because we feel like, oh, it's good, I'm not there. | ||
| Yeah, right? | ||
| That's why I'm watching Intervention. | ||
| Because I'll watch the, I'm walking on sunshine, the episode of the girls doing the duster, and I'm like, alright, I guess I don't feel bad about smoking this much weed, because I'm I'm not eating tape. | ||
| Yeah, have you ever seen that fucking My Strange Addiction? | ||
| That's another thing. | ||
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Does this shit exist in the third world? | |
| That's a good question. | ||
| Do people fucking eat tape in their cars? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's a very good question. | ||
| I wonder what it is about human beings that when everything is great and you have too much resources and it's too easy to get food, we just start getting really fucking strange. | ||
| I'm addicted to eating drywall. | ||
| Okay, are those people real? | ||
| I mean, that's what I want to know. | ||
| That's the thing that I wonder too. | ||
| It almost seems like the My Strange Addiction one is almost fake. | ||
| Well, having worked in reality TV and knowing how much of it is bullshit, How does that work? | ||
| Is it just super edited? | ||
| Well, even when I did that sci-fi show, they fucking just fake things. | ||
| Like your reaction shots and shit? | ||
| I always wonder if people are like, oh. | ||
| They definitely edit things and put certain reaction things where they didn't belong. | ||
| We need a face when he's looking at it like, whoa. | ||
| But there was one where they did, that sci-fi show that I did, where there's a thing that people believe in called skyquakes. | ||
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Oh. | |
| What is that? | ||
| It's probably bullshit, most likely, but sounds from the sky, like crazy, like horns, and people are trying to figure out what these sounds were. | ||
| Well, they took a video, this one guy sent in this video, where he was just, it was actually, it's really hilarious, because the one guy that they put the video, he was like a chemtrail believer. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So he believes in a different kind of bullshit, and he was pointing at the sky, and we kind of mocked him for his chemtrail beliefs. | ||
| But then these fucking dummies that made the show, the editors, took a chunk of this guy's video and then added some sound to it. | ||
| No way! | ||
| And then put it on the show and said that there's a... | ||
| He was pointing to a sky quake, but he wasn't. | ||
| It was just fake. | ||
| Oh, that's crazy. | ||
| I found out about it. | ||
| I freaked out. | ||
| I had them remove it from the show. | ||
| But it aired. | ||
| The first time it aired, that was on the show. | ||
| And then after it had aired, when they aired it for a second time, they removed it. | ||
| That's so disingenuous and insane. | ||
| That's what they do. | ||
| That's what they do. | ||
| That's what those shows are. | ||
| Those shows are just bullshit. | ||
| Most of those shows are bullshit. | ||
| And sci-fi at the time... | ||
| I had a ton of those. | ||
| There was one show that was all about a family that was trapped in a house in Maine because there was werewolves outside. | ||
| And it was a whole, like, fucking half-hour show about these people. | ||
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I looked out, and I saw it was standing up, and it looked like a man, but it was covered in front. | |
| Just making things up. | ||
| And that was the whole show. | ||
| They don't give a fuck. | ||
| As long as they can get that Toyota truck commercial on, We got Toyota, then we got Tide, and then we got fucking hot dogs. | ||
| Alright, go! | ||
| Back to the werewolf story. | ||
| And it's so interesting, Joe, because I had an agent for a little while looking for work and stuff, and every single thing, because I guess I come from the same questioning government narratives, and oh shit, you're tinfoil hot wearer if you fucking question what the government tells you. | ||
| And so it's always these shows. | ||
| They're like, we're starting a show to basically dissect... | ||
| JFK and chemtrails. | ||
| I'm like, isn't there anything else fucking happening other than like the same five fucking things that you guys want to create shows around? | ||
| It's so weird. | ||
| No, there's not. | ||
| No, that's what all these goddamn things are. | ||
| And it's all just bullshit. | ||
| It's like, why don't we talk about shit that fucking matters? | ||
| Or like interesting stuff that's going on now. | ||
| Because those things are like, they can start fires. | ||
| You know, it's like you can start fires with a flint and a piece of metal, clink, clink, clink, and they know it works. | ||
| So they just keep going to it over and over again. | ||
| You can start a fire with Bigfoot. | ||
| Put Bigfoot on TV and people, oh, look at that! | ||
| And they're just drawn to it. | ||
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Look at this, it's a UFO, it says it's real. | |
| There's just certain subjects that people will always want to believe in. | ||
| They want to believe in psychics. | ||
| They want to believe in chemtrails, UFOs, the government experiments, mind control. | ||
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Don't you know about Majestic 12? | |
| You know, I'm sure there's been some mind control experiments. | ||
| There was definitely those LSD experiments. | ||
| Oh, hell yeah, dude. | ||
| MKUltra? | ||
| Where they were just watching people fuck in a whorehouse and dosing them with acid, and then these FBI agents would sit behind... | ||
| One-way mirrors and just watch him. | ||
| Operation Midnight Climax. | ||
| Midnight Climax. | ||
| It must be really cool to be an FBI agent during the fucking... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They dose people with acid when they went to whorehouses. | ||
| Guys went to whorehouses, they would slip acid in their drink, and, you know, they'd be like, uh, I don't really want sex anymore. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I'm thinking about life. | ||
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Existential angst is really kind of freaking me out right now. | |
| Wait, is it true that the U.S. government has, like, half the world's LSD? Okay. | ||
| Is that a bullshit? | ||
| Well, it's most likely bullshit. | ||
| Here's why it's bullshit. | ||
| Because LSD has a half-life and it doesn't last. | ||
| If you have a vat of LSD and you leave it in your house for 10 years, most likely it's not really effective after a while. | ||
| I remember Alex Schulgen was saying that they seized a bunch of it, really good acid, during that whole time. | ||
| But I guess, yeah, it wouldn't last. | ||
| I'm sure they did. | ||
| Unless they figured out some way to contain it. | ||
| Vacuum seal it in some special way. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Walt Disney's brain. | ||
| I'm guessing no, as far as I know. | ||
| I don't think like, I think a lot of substances are just not, that's why vitamins, if you get vitamins, like most vitamins, you look at them, they're not really effective after like six months or a year. | ||
| They become less and less effective over time. | ||
| I'm pretty sure that's the case with LSD. Don't Don't quote me on it, though. | ||
| But I know it is with weed. | ||
| Is it? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Old weed doesn't get... | ||
| Unfortunately, it doesn't last. | ||
| It's like life. | ||
| You gotta get it when it's hot and fresh and young. | ||
| Get that carbon in your fucking lungs as soon as possible. | ||
| Yeah, even edibles. | ||
| They go bad, even if they bake them down into a cookie. | ||
| You put that cookie in a piece of plastic, try to eat it a couple years from now. | ||
| We just took this epic road trip and got back this morning, which was amazing, but I wanted to tell your audience just about the Utah thing because it was so funny. | ||
| I mean, here you are in these fucking massive rock formations carved by millions of years of water, sandstone, fucking... | ||
| Whatever, like, slate, all this shit. | ||
| Insane! | ||
| Like, anyone who has not been to Utah, you need to go. | ||
| Bryce Canyon National Park is one of the most absurd things I've ever seen. | ||
| It's like these things called hoodoos that are just carved over millions of years with a stone. | ||
| Anyway, Arches National Park, obviously that iconic, like, all the orange arches that are carved in... | ||
| Millions of years like we can carbon date them. | ||
| We know the geological processes very easy to explain through science So we're reading the official park literature and I'm just like man I'm like so so fascinated like how did this form and so like crazy and it makes you just like Appreciate time like that's what the desert is like you fucking appreciate time Like that is it's like you look at that and that's the top of the grand staircase Joe. | ||
| That's the newest part of the grand staircase That's amazing. | ||
| So in that's fucking ridiculous. | ||
| It looks like a standing army Yeah, people that are just listening to this, what it looks like, obviously it's not, but it looks like something that someone has designed. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It looks like something someone carved out of the stone. | ||
| Like, some of those things look like... | ||
| It's insane. | ||
| Yeah, they look like columns in a building. | ||
| It's amazing, dude. | ||
| So this is all Utah, of course, named after some Mormon guy named Bryce who discovered it, you know. | ||
| So anyway, there's arches. | ||
| Arches that are created by just wind and time, right? | ||
| Yeah, wind and time. | ||
| And that's what you... | ||
| The most crazy thing about being out in the desert for so long is you're just like, this took millions of years to... | ||
| I mean, it makes you just appreciate fucking time and evolution and like how the Earth has changed. | ||
| And this is only, think about how old the Earth is, billions of years old. | ||
| This was only the last couple million. | ||
| If you look at something called the Black Canyon, which is actually way deeper than the Grand Canyon and way more narrow. | ||
| I was just like, oh my god, this must have taken billions of years to form. | ||
| And it was just like, nope, just the last two million years just popped up. | ||
| It's like, what the fuck? | ||
| It just makes you... | ||
| It just makes you just appreciate, like... | ||
| Time. | ||
| Time and geology and science. | ||
| So anyway, in this official park literature in Arches, it explains everything very precisely. | ||
| At the very end of it, it's just like, okay, we just explained how all of this worked. | ||
| This is the history of Arches National Park. | ||
| And then it says, probably... | ||
| All of the evidence is circumstantial. | ||
| And I was just like, what the fuck? | ||
| I was like, what do you mean? | ||
| All the evidence is circumstantial. | ||
| I was like, all the evidence is not circumstantial. | ||
| All the evidence is proven. | ||
| We know how old these rocks are. | ||
| We know exactly what's carved them. | ||
| We can test all the sediments. | ||
| We can test all the rocks. | ||
| So I was just like, holy shit, like, has the Mormon lobby just lobbied all the fucking parks in Utah, which are the best parks in the country and the most amazing state, and basically forced them to say, none of this is real. | ||
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Joseph Smith in 1820 was 14 years old. | |
| He found golden tablets that contained the lost work of Jesus. | ||
| The Israeli people came over from the Bering Strait in Siberia. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| That's the narrative for the Mormons. | ||
| Do you know that? | ||
| That the lost tribe of Israel were the Native Americans? | ||
| You didn't know that? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What? | ||
| They even tested, this guy was this rich Mormon dude, tested Native American DNA to try to prove that they were Israeli and that they were the lost tribes of Israel. | ||
| And turns out that's not true. | ||
| Turns out it's a bunch of fucking bullshit. | ||
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It's all circumstantial. | |
| They're from Siberia. | ||
| They came over from the Bering Strait. | ||
| We've known that forever. | ||
| But they tested it. | ||
| But in 1820, Joseph Smith, he found magic tablets, and he had a magic stone. | ||
| He had a seer stone, and only he could read the magic tablets. | ||
| Did you know that? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, he wouldn't let anyone else see them. | ||
| He was just like, no, no, just trust me. | ||
| Well, not only that, he needed a stone to look at them. | ||
| A seer stone. | ||
| Got it. | ||
| A seer stone. | ||
| It's a wonderful story. | ||
| It is a wonderful stone. | ||
| I wish I had one. | ||
| Angels came and took the tablets away because the people didn't believe. | ||
| To test their faith. | ||
| It's like dinosaur bones are just like, just gotta trust Joseph Smith. | ||
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Is that the peep stone? | |
| That's his seer stone! | ||
| What a fucking batshit crazy dude. | ||
| Can you imagine him just wandering? | ||
| Can you imagine Joseph Smith today? | ||
| Walking around with a seer stone being like, everyone listen up! | ||
| I found these golden tablets! | ||
| Well, what's really wonderful is that a follower of this jackass almost became president. | ||
| Got real goddamn close. | ||
| Right, that's fucking batshit crazy. | ||
| The people that don't even know how batshit Mitt Romney is, Mitt Romney's family is living in Mexico. | ||
| His family's all from Mexico. | ||
| That's why his dad was never president. | ||
| Mitt Romney's dad wanted to be president. | ||
| Mitt Romney's family was one of the fucking Mormons that escaped America when they made polygamy illegal. | ||
| They were like, look, I need more than one poser. | ||
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I'm gone, son. | |
| This is too much. | ||
| This is too restrictive. | ||
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Get the fuck out of here. | |
| That's true. | ||
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That's what happened. | |
| Did you know that? | ||
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No. | |
| You didn't know that? | ||
| Mitt Romney's family, they still live in Mexico. | ||
| Mitt Romney's dad is from fucking Mexico. | ||
| He was born in Mexico. | ||
| Oh, whoa. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| There's a huge colony. | ||
| He's just so white looking. | ||
| Well, they're American. | ||
| They're Mormons from America. | ||
| They escaped back when there was no cars. | ||
| Got it. | ||
| See, there was no cars. | ||
| And back when there was no cars, you're on a horseback in America, you're on a horseback in Mexico. | ||
| What difference does it make, bitch? | ||
| But if you cross this dirt line, you could fuck nine different chicks and live in a house where you all have your own rules. | ||
| Well, to this day, they're over there. | ||
| There's a whole colony of them, and they're at war on a regular basis. | ||
| There's Mitt Romney's cousin over there in Mexico. | ||
| That's Kelly Romney. | ||
| They're playing golf with fucking armed guards because the cartel kidnaps them all the time. | ||
| A bunch of wives waiting inside. | ||
| Well, they get kidnapped by the cartel members. | ||
| They have a fucking active war. | ||
| These people, they have these ranches, and they're armed to the dick. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's hilarious. | ||
| Oh, there's Vice. | ||
| There's Shane over there. | ||
| It's hilarious. | ||
| Wandering around in Mexico at the Romney Ranch. | ||
| Mitt Romney actually has a really interesting story, because he, at Bain Capital, when he ran Bain Capital, he was, like, taken in and trained by Monsanto executives. | ||
| And he, like... | ||
| I think he was given his first big loan by a Monsanto executive, and then he was like, all right, y'all, you guys are a fucking toxic chemical company, fucking Agent Orange, all this shit, real bad. | ||
| Real bad look. | ||
| Why don't we shift this over to food now? | ||
| So he basically was behind this giant PR push to switch Monsanto over from chemicals to biotech, which is really interesting to be like, why is Mitt Romney's in the fold? | ||
| You know, it's just like super weird that he was just like right there in the wings kind of helping foster this transition is super weird. | ||
| People with money. | ||
| Bain Capital. | ||
| Harvesting money. | ||
| That's what he says in some commercial for Bain Capital. | ||
| He's like, we harvest money. | ||
| And you're like, oh my god. | ||
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How do you do that? | |
| Show us where the money tree is. | ||
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I can't. | |
| It's near the golden tablets. | ||
| You need a seer stone to see the magic money tree. | ||
| Money seeds only through the seer stone. | ||
| The money seeds. | ||
| We water it with angel tears and piss. | ||
| It's like, what the fuck? | ||
| Money tree harvest? | ||
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What are you doing? | |
| Harvesting cash. | ||
| What are you doing, Mitt? | ||
| It sounded like he was harvesting human beings. | ||
| He's like, we grow them here in our lab. | ||
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Yeah, we grow them in lambs. | |
| Planned Parenthood grows them for us. | ||
| The whole thing is ridiculous. | ||
| Oh my God, the Planned Parenthood thing is hilarious. | ||
| Yeah, the Planned Parenthood thing, we were talking about it earlier in a different podcast. | ||
| We were trying to figure out what the fuck was going on with that. | ||
| Here's the thing. | ||
| What are they supposed to fucking do? | ||
| Throw the babies in the trash can? | ||
| That's what I said. | ||
| Yeah, I would like them to, if they are, if abortion is legal, and I think it should be, what are they going to do with the tissue? | ||
| Wouldn't it be better if that tissue gets used? | ||
| But it's a fucking super disturbing video when they start going through the parts. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And you realize what abortion really is. | ||
| You're like, oh, this is inconvenient. | ||
| It's more convenient for me to think that this is a bundle of cells. | ||
| Don't really want to see hands. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, the whole thing is just like, yeah, it's like abortion's legal, and I would rather them utilize the tissue for something that's scientific instead of just throwing it in the garbage can, so... | ||
| Yeah, that's true. | ||
| I think what a lot of people were worried about, not just this, is that they were going to somehow or another influence people to do it for money, influence people to have abortions for money. | ||
| Oh God, that's insane. | ||
| It is, but it isn't. | ||
| There's got to be people that are willing to have an abortion for money. | ||
| Sure, but what if they get paid? | ||
| Like Planned Parenthood, wasn't the whole issue that Planned Parenthood was making money selling the tissue, but then they said that that wasn't true? | ||
| Something along those lines. | ||
| If there was some black market thing where people could have abortions and sell the tissue, I just don't... | ||
| Yeah, it's super confusing because the video implies that Planned Parenthood was profiting off of it and that this woman was trying to say that she could sort of structure it so they could make more money. | ||
| Look, all I know is Planned Parenthood's fucking great, okay? | ||
| I love it. | ||
| I think it's great. | ||
| It gives birth control. | ||
| I hate babies. | ||
| Look, birth control is fucking important, alright? | ||
| And people who want to talk shit on Planned Parenthood and talk about this baby thing is just so ridiculous because... | ||
| I didn't have healthcare for like three months after I quit RT, and I wanted birth control, and I was just like, what the fuck would I do? | ||
| What would I do if Planned Parenthood wasn't here? | ||
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What you would do is get a fucking job and buy some goddamn birth control. | |
| How about working for somebody other than Russia that extends your benefits? | ||
| There's some shit that you need prescribed. | ||
| You don't have unemployment birth control? | ||
| You don't just go fucking pick up certain birth controls at the convenience Was it Rush Limbaugh? | ||
| That killed Rush Limbaugh's career, wasn't it? | ||
| We were talking about some girl being a slut. | ||
| That too. | ||
| But he was talking about some girl being a slut because she wanted birth control, some college student. | ||
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Remember that? | |
| It was like 2012. That was the drop-off. | ||
| That was where it ended for Rush Limbaugh. | ||
| Yeah, Oxy didn't do it. | ||
| That did it. | ||
| Yeah, he was saying a bunch of really rude shit. | ||
| Well, he was probably oxied out of his fucking head while he was saying it. | ||
| He was nodding off. | ||
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He was like, oh, slut! | |
| Fucking breath control! | ||
| I'll get you to breath control! | ||
| I'll come in your nose! | ||
| But that literally ended his career. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That was like around 2012, if I remember correctly. | ||
| I'm trying to remember what the story was. | ||
| But it was some college girl, and he was calling her a slut. | ||
| And I think it was about... | ||
| Was she like a rape victim or something? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| That would be ridiculous. | ||
| That was even over the top for Rush. | ||
| Chris Kyle, rest in peace. | ||
| I think what he wanted to do was he wanted to... | ||
| He was mocking her because she was saying that birth control should be a part of some... | ||
| See if you can find that. | ||
| Like, free and shit? | ||
| Yeah, Rush Limbaugh, college girl, slut, birth control. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Just Google that. | ||
| Yeah, it was like, he was, she was saying that it should be a part of her healthcare, I think? | ||
| And he was calling her a slut because she wanted birth control. | ||
| Right. | ||
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I'm like, what? | |
| Dirty whore. | ||
| What the fuck, man? | ||
| You want her to get pregnant, you dumb fuck? | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Oh, some state... | ||
| She shouldn't have sex? | ||
| Some state just issued free birth control to this radical idea where they gave free birth control to women and, like, abortion, like... | ||
| I got a radical idea. | ||
| Abortion, like, fucking plummeted, like, 30%, like, teen pregnancy plummeted. | ||
| It's like, wow, who'da thunk it? | ||
| Who'da thunk it? | ||
| Rush Limbaugh calls Georgetown student. | ||
| Yeah, but let's not get a video. | ||
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Let's see what the actual facts were. | |
| What's that? | ||
| Sandra Fluke a slut. | ||
| Okay, go ahead. | ||
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Play it. | |
| Play the audio. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
| For two days, Rush Limbaugh has eviscerated Sandra Fluke on the radio. | ||
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What does it say about the college co-ed Susan Fluke? | |
| Sandra. | ||
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Who goes before a congressional committee and essentially says that she must be paid to have sex. | |
| What does that make her? | ||
| Paid to have sex? | ||
| What? | ||
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It makes her a slut, right? | |
| What is he talking about? | ||
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It makes her a prostitute. | |
| She wants to be paid to have sex. | ||
| Fluke, a third-year law student at Georgetown, is now the flashpoint in a debate about whether employers should be required to fully cover contraception even if they have religious objectives. | ||
| I like how he truncated it to she wants to get paid to have sex. | ||
|
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Okay, we got it. | |
| We got it. | ||
| But that was it. | ||
| That was basically it for him. | ||
| That fucking killed him. | ||
| That guy's done. | ||
| It's really fascinating because Rush Limbaugh was... | ||
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Is he, though? | |
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| He's done. | ||
|
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Really? | |
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| His career has dropped off radically. | ||
| He's in like third, fourth tier markets. | ||
| Is this like the nappy-headed hoe comment? | ||
| Like, was it like that bad? | ||
| Well, that guy was just... | ||
| He's gross. | ||
| He's always been gross. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But, yeah, that was just, he was trying to be funny and stupid. | ||
| Rush is trying to, like, push his ideology. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But that killed that guy. | ||
| That guy, like, advertisers fleed him en masse after that. | ||
| It's funny that that's what did it. | ||
| Not the rampant racism and... | ||
| Well, he's just gross. | ||
| He was also calling for drug addicts to be... | ||
| There was a guy who got prosecuted. | ||
| I forget what the story was. | ||
| But a guy who got prosecuted for some drug-related offense. | ||
| And the... | ||
| The fucking judge literally told him when he was sentencing him that he was listening to Rush Limbaugh on the way over and how Rush was saying that we have to give drug abusers a wake-up call and that drug abusers need to know that there's consequences for their actions. | ||
| So because of this, I'm gonna fucking sentence you for X amount of blah blah blah blah blah. | ||
| And the guy got released because of overcrowding. | ||
| I read it online. | ||
| I forget where I read it from. | ||
| Drug abusers? | ||
| Really? | ||
| But this was right before Rush got popped for chewing like 90 oxys a day and having his fucking maid go out and buy him for him with her assumed names. | ||
| She's wearing a fake mustache and shit. | ||
| Oh, my bike is not so good. | ||
| And she's buying a fucking... | ||
| But this guy was like talking about this crazy shit on the radio while he was popping pills. | ||
| That's always how it is, man. | ||
| All the anti-gay people always turn out to have the gay prostitutes. | ||
| It's like, why are you so obsessed? | ||
| We were playing Ted Cruz earlier on the earlier podcast, and I was like, I recognize sounds, okay? | ||
| There's certain sounds I recognize, right? | ||
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When you hear a dude talk like this, what do you hear? | |
| You think of a big black man, right? | ||
|
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| When Ted Cruz talks, I hear a gay man. | ||
| I hear a gay man. | ||
| Dude, that is how he... | ||
| Why does he talk? | ||
| Let's hear it. | ||
| Let's hear Ted Cruz again. | ||
|
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Why does he talk like that? | |
| Because he's gay. | ||
| I think he's gay. | ||
| He's super conservative. | ||
| Super conservative. | ||
| My thought is this guy cannot fucking wait to get done talking, just run up, throw on some women's clothes and suck some cock. | ||
| He just sounds gay. | ||
| Now, I don't know if he's gay, but I've never met anybody that sounds gay that's not gay. | ||
| There's nothing wrong with being gay. | ||
| I want to say this again because I said it on the earlier podcast. | ||
| There's nothing wrong. | ||
| I love gay people. | ||
| What I don't like is people are gross. | ||
|
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We just don't like any of you who are homophobes in my remarks today is that we need to reassemble the Reagan coalition. | |
| We need to bring together all of the different parts that comprise the big tent. | ||
| What about liberals who, if you got elected president, you'd be their president? | ||
| What would you say to them? | ||
| Well, but listen, they're different elements. | ||
| So you've got, for example, you've got to bring together conservatives and libertarians who've got differing views but shared values. | ||
| Okay, that's about as straight as he's ever sounded. | ||
| Find a better one. | ||
| But it's same-sex marriage ruling. | ||
| See, because it's a same-sex marriage ruling, he's like trying to fucking straighten it up. | ||
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He's like, I don't want to be confused with any of those homos. | |
| The guy sounds gay. | ||
| I don't know if he is gay. | ||
| There's nothing wrong with being gay, but he sounds gay. | ||
| I'm just saying it. | ||
| And people can say I sound gay too. | ||
| Go ahead, say it. | ||
| I don't give a fuck. | ||
| The world is on fire, comments. | ||
| The world's on fire. | ||
| It's on fire. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
|
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I will tell you, you are a major celebrity there. | |
| Yeah, well, it's a very small state. | ||
| Look, I mean, it was impressive. | ||
| I mean, I was earning major street cred. | ||
| I mentioned to a couple of folks I was going to be on your show. | ||
|
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They were blown away. | |
| That's a gay man. | ||
|
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Stop right there. | |
| That guy should be baking. | ||
| He sounds totally different than he did in the previous. | ||
| He should be naked with a fucking apron on. | ||
| Baking. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Baking and sucking cock. | ||
| That's what Ted Cruz is best. | ||
| Those two things. | ||
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That's what he does best. | |
| He's good at cupcakes and cocksucking. | ||
| That should be a campaign trail. | ||
| Just fucking go for it. | ||
| Just go for it. | ||
| Just put that on your fucking banner, dude. | ||
| There's enough time. | ||
| It's still 2015. Okay, November of 2016 is a long time away. | ||
| Cupcakes and cocksucking. | ||
| Ted Cruz. | ||
| Hillary's got the pantsuits, you get the apron. | ||
| Get in while it's hot. | ||
| A year ago, Caitlyn was Bruce, and no one gave a fuck about him. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Now he's Caitlyn, and everybody cares. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Everybody loves her. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Cupcakes and cock-sucking for president. | ||
| Ted Cruz. | ||
| Look at him. | ||
| Ted, oh my god. | ||
| That's what's up. | ||
| Ew. | ||
| That is, he looks just, he has hollow black eyes. | ||
| He's just a guy who's just trying to fucking stand out. | ||
| Just trying to make, just trying to pick himself up by his bootstraps and make the American dream happen. | ||
| It's just always weird. | ||
| It's just always weird when someone goes, they go that route, anti-same-sex marriage pro. | ||
| Oh yeah, just going against the grain. | ||
| It's like, I'm going to still prosecute marijuana users. | ||
| There is no place for gays. | ||
| Look at that fucking quote. | ||
| There is no place for gays or atheists in my America. | ||
| None. | ||
| Our Constitution makes that clear. | ||
| He said that in fucking March of 2010. 2015 at Liberty University. | ||
| That is amazing. | ||
| There is no place for gays or atheists. | ||
| That's so silly. | ||
| That's obviously a gay guy. | ||
| I hate to quote myself, but there's two types of people that hate gay marriage. | ||
| People that are really dumb or people that are secretly worried that dicks are delicious. | ||
| Look at him. | ||
| Look at him. | ||
| That is a vagina. | ||
| This is where you stick your penis in. | ||
| Don't stick it in my mouth because I'll throw up. | ||
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Go ahead, I'll show you. | |
| I'll show you. | ||
| Stick it in. | ||
| Oh, it's disgusting. | ||
| Bleh. | ||
| Don't put it in my butt! | ||
| This is the world we live in, Abby Martin. | ||
| Is that the Empire? | ||
| Now, what does a guy like that fit in? | ||
| Where does a guy like that fit in in the Empire? | ||
| Is he just like some guy who's scrambling, trying to get attention, running around the outside of the castle? | ||
|
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What about me? | |
| I can be king. | ||
| Yeah, that guy's the stooge, right? | ||
| So you have these... | ||
| He's not really... | ||
| He's just a sideshow, you know? | ||
| I know some people that are having... | ||
| He's just like Rick Perry of the... | ||
| Niggerhead Ranch. | ||
| What did you say? | ||
| Did you say that word? | ||
| N-word ranch. | ||
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N-word... | |
| What is that ranch? | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| That's Rick Perry's ranch. | ||
| Shut the fuck up. | ||
| Yeah, that's his family. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| His family has a ranch called N. No, they don't. | ||
| Please tell me you're kidding. | ||
| And he, like, refused to take down the signpost. | ||
| People, when he was running for president, people were like, are you gonna do, like, a rebranding effort about, like, the ranch that your family owns? | ||
| And he was like, it's all, like, historical. | ||
| Oh, no! | ||
| It's like Aunt Jemima. | ||
| It's okay. | ||
| No, is that real? | ||
| No, that's real. | ||
| Come on, find that. | ||
| You gotta find that. | ||
| And I think he kept his... | ||
| Oh my god! | ||
| It's true? | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
|
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He's got a ranch called Niggerhead. | |
| Oh my god. | ||
| Is it surprised yet? | ||
| Yeah, it hasn't either. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Perry's version of the events differs in many respects from the recollections of seven people. | ||
| They said they painted the rock when they saw the offensive word and then painted it over. | ||
| Oh, ever since, any time I ever saw the rock, it was painted over. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
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My mother and father went to the lease and painted the rock. | |
| Went to the lease? | ||
| What does that mean? | ||
| Went to the lease and painted the rock. | ||
| In either 1983 or 1984. It took them that long?! | ||
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Well, it was not until the 80s that we realized that it was a bad word. | |
| Yeah, that we really had to start respecting the damn black people. | ||
| Around Texas. | ||
| That's just what we called folks. | ||
| Wait, and didn't he also keep a dead fetus in his fridge? | ||
| Oh my God. | ||
| Is that really the sign that you showed? | ||
| No, that's fake, right? | ||
| He kept a dead fetus in his fridge. | ||
| For what? | ||
| She put them in the freezer. | ||
| You don't want to waste those cells. | ||
| You don't want to throw those in the trash and sell those to criminals. | ||
| You don't want to sell that to the black market. | ||
| Imagine how ironic it would be if it was aborted fetuses that cured the gay. | ||
| Can you imagine? | ||
| How ironic? | ||
| You needed an aborted fetus. | ||
| Rick Santorum's dead baby ritual? | ||
| What is that? | ||
| I don't want to see that. | ||
| I'm getting bummed out. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| I gotta end this thing in about five minutes. | ||
| Oh shit, really? | ||
| Yeah, unfortunately I got a crazy day. | ||
| Oh, no way. | ||
| Well. | ||
| Anything else? | ||
| Anything else going on? | ||
| Just everyone check out the Grand Staircase. | ||
| What's going on with your art? | ||
| You have beautiful art. | ||
| You were in town doing some art. | ||
| Yeah, I did an art show called Cosmos and Self, and I'm actually doing another one in two days. | ||
| Everyone should check it out if they live in the LA area called Ethos Space. | ||
| It's gonna be in downtown LA. Check it out. | ||
| Downtown's a freaky spot now, isn't it? | ||
| Downtown's fucking awesome, man. | ||
| We live in the fashion district in some crazy warehouse. | ||
| It's epic. | ||
| Don't say where you live. | ||
| I'm moving in three days, so it's fine. | ||
| Now you're gone. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like a ghost. | ||
| Ghost out. | ||
| There's a lot of freaky spots down there. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Like, you gotta make sure you don't go the wrong way. | ||
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I mean, Skid Row's right fucking there. | |
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Which is crazy. | ||
| It's like, yeah, I'm sure that you've seen, you know, you've traveled to a lot of countries, seen a lot of horrible poverty, went to Haiti, saw bad things, but then there's really nothing that compares to Skid Row because it's this crazy community Living on the fucking street just taking over downtown LA like excess of humanity that's just spilled out Mentally ill drug. | ||
| I mean, they're just like shooting up in the street taking a shit It's it's fucking nuts thousands of them thousands Yeah, and it's blocks and blocks and blocks just like society is just like abandoned this portion of their people It's very surreal and really scary and we live right by there. | ||
| It's an interesting thing You know someone wants to look them and go how do we capitalize in this market? | ||
| So many people right there. | ||
| They all have similar interests It's a fucking crazy scene. | ||
| I remember the first time I was there, we were filming Fear Factory downtown and we were real close to it and someone brought it up and we drove by and I was like, you gotta be I'm fucking kidding. | ||
| This is real. | ||
| It's real. | ||
| It's super big. | ||
| And there's just no one. | ||
|
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What do you do? | |
| Most of them are just mentally ill and drug addicts. | ||
| So it's like you don't... | ||
| What can you do other than provide services like that? | ||
| It's very just... | ||
| And then one of the fucking tents, it's so bizarre, has a giant American flag in it. | ||
| And you're like, I'm glad that you are still... | ||
| America. | ||
| All about America. | ||
| America. | ||
| Well, it's not America's fault that I'm out here. | ||
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It's my fault. | |
| I'm the one who smoked a crack. | ||
| Uncle Sam didn't put that crack pipe in my mouth. | ||
| You didn't work hard enough. | ||
| Yeah, well, there's a lot of mentally ill people. | ||
| During the Reagan administration, they sort of changed the rules for what made you mentally ill and what, you know, what the distinctions were, and that's when they sort of opened up the doors and let all these people out on the street. | ||
| I remember it, like, really, really clearly when I was a kid, because there was a big debate, like, oh, like, wait a minute, you can't, there's a lot of people that are like, you can't fucking do this, you can't just change the classification For people that have mental illness, but they did and all throughout New York and Boston there was like all these like new Mentally ill people wandering around the streets. | ||
| It was like a real clear moment. | ||
| Yeah there I just read the statistic that homelessness has gone up like 25% in the last four years and just in LA of people living in homes on freeway overpasses and shit and I remember like I posted I swear to god and I remember I posted and someone was like dude just move out they can't afford LA just move out and I'm like We can't afford to move. | ||
| Once you go homeless, you don't have any money. | ||
| Like, what? | ||
| Dude, speaking of, really quickly before we wrap it up, I wanted to tell you, we should talk about Cuba next time because I went there and did a whole report on it, but zero homelessness. | ||
| That was the most iconic thing about being in Cuba. | ||
| No trash, no homelessness. | ||
| Because everyone has their basic needs. | ||
| The shelter. | ||
| And there's a ration system and stuff. | ||
| But it was just interesting to see the low crime rate when people have basic shelter and healthcare. | ||
| A lot of problems. | ||
| Still very interesting. | ||
| Because it was very different than every other Latin American country. | ||
| I was just like, holy shit, there's no homeless people. | ||
| No beggars and no... | ||
| That's interesting. | ||
| I mean, it's obviously not an ideal environment because you're forced into certain jobs and they kind of decide what you do and don't do. | ||
| You aren't forced into certain jobs. | ||
| You're not? | ||
| Nope. | ||
| That's bullshit? | ||
| What about for athletes? | ||
| Don't they do that for athletes? | ||
| So that's what my friend who's an economist actually, when I came back from incubation, was like, so how is it? | ||
| Like, everyone's assigned a job. | ||
| And I was like, no, it's not like a brave new world where babies are born in incubators and like trained to be like, you're a doctor, you're a florist, you're this. | ||
| It's not like that at all. | ||
| And, you know, there is a ration system and they do get paid very little. | ||
| But it's just interesting because people just have a completely different mindset. | ||
| Like, I remember I spoke to a bunch of doctors and I was like, why are you a doctor? | ||
| You're not getting paid anything. | ||
| And they're like, why would I care about it? | ||
| They're like, I'm helping my community and family. | ||
| It's just like a totally, like a wall of understanding. | ||
| I'm like, I'm coming from the hub of capitalism and I'm like, I don't understand the incentive. | ||
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Right. | |
| So it was really, really fascinating. | ||
| But I'd recommend everyone check out the Cuba series I did on Breaking the Set if you want to learn more. | ||
| And check out Ethos Space. | ||
| AbbyMartin.org is my art. | ||
| The people that have lived there in Cuba really hated it. | ||
| They hated the oppression. | ||
| They hated the way they were treated. | ||
| They escaped because they had more opportunity in America. | ||
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Well, here's the thing. | |
| There's three laws. | ||
| Especially athletes. | ||
| There's three laws that America has created. | ||
| Put into place that coax defectors. | ||
| So one of them is basically trying to subvert Cuba's whole medical internationalism. | ||
| So Cuba has been forced into this, like, because of the blockade and the embargo, they've been forced into, like, total fucking self. | ||
| Like, you know what I mean? | ||
| Like, they have, like, all organics, and they've, like, like, maintained these old cars, and they, like, don't let anything break down and shit. | ||
| Kind of cool in a way. | ||
| So they've also developed, instead of invading countries and bombing the shit out of people, they've also developed an entire, like, medical thing for their, like, So they basically lease out doctors around the world. | ||
| Even when you go back to, you know, the Haiti earthquake, they were the first country that sent out the biggest contingent of doctors. | ||
| Ebola, biggest contingent of doctors. | ||
| So they basically lease out, like, doctors to get oil from Venezuela, to, like, get help. | ||
| It's interesting because people are like, oh, well, they're, you know, they're, like, creating doctors to, like, just get oil and shit. | ||
| It's like, well, they're doing what they can with the resources that they have. | ||
| They're under a very crippling economic embargo. | ||
| They have subversion programs going on through USAID every year. | ||
| Despite the normalization process that's going on, the USAID is still spending $20 million a year to subvert Cuba's political process. | ||
| So we've subverted the hip-hop movement there. | ||
| We've created a fake HIV program. | ||
| We've created a fake Twitter called Zunzunio that's tried to get people against Castro. | ||
| But the most disturbing part is this medical internationalism, where you have 75,000 doctors Working around the world on all these fronts and the US has created a law that said you can defect to the US and become a doctor here and just leave your post. | ||
| So it's like why are we trying to like subvert like actual medical missions and humanitarian missions that Cuba is doing? | ||
| Really the only reason is because we want to subvert the socialist government that survived after the Cold War that we still fucking can't accept. | ||
| And there's also the wet foot, dry foot policy that offers Cuban immigrants, no other immigrant in the world has this, where you can just come here and just be an American citizen if you're Cuban. | ||
| Is that the case? | ||
| No questions asked. | ||
| Wet foot, dry foot. | ||
| Still? | ||
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Yep. | |
| Wow. | ||
| That must suck for Mexicans. | ||
| They're like, what the fuck, man? | ||
| This is bullshit. | ||
| What about Canadians? | ||
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We're conservatives up in arms and like, why are we allowing all these Cuban immigrants in here? | |
| Shut the borders down. | ||
| I did not know that. | ||
| That's fascinating. | ||
| It's really fascinating. | ||
| You should have a conversation with Joey Diaz. | ||
| He'd be fucking screaming right now. | ||
| He was born Cuban. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Came over on a boat. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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A raft. | |
| No, and you know a lot of people, look, when you're Cuban and you're on a ration system and you're living in this country that's kind of isolated and you're like watching American movies and you're like, wow. | ||
| why the fuck am I here when I can be there? | ||
| You know, and you're seeing mountains of cocaine and AKs and shit and you're like, why are you... | ||
| But the problem is a lot of doctors defect and they come over here and then they're caught for years and years and years. | ||
| Their license doesn't apply. | ||
| They end up being like a waitress in a restaurant for a decade trying to become a practicing doctor. | ||
| But when I was over there, not only do they have free healthcare obviously for everyone in the country, but they also have an international medical school that trains doctors. | ||
| Whoever wants to train all over the world can go and just be a doctor for free. | ||
| So I met like 20 Americans who were there and I was like, why are you here getting your medical license? | ||
| And they're like, because I don't want to fucking be $100,000 in debt in America. | ||
| And they're like, I'm here to get my medical license so then I can go train and be a doctor. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Free. | ||
| So, a lot of shit can be talked about how things are run, but it's a totally different society when you have basic needs met and when healthcare and, like, humans come first out of necessity because of the blockade, because they had to create this, not necessarily of altruism, but it's evolved into such an insane just dichotomy of how society has, like, functioned. | ||
| Super interesting. | ||
| Well, it's gonna be fascinating now the embargo has been lifted. | ||
| It's going to be lifted. | ||
| It's still not. | ||
| So now all they've done is lift travel restrictions. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So now they've lifted travel restrictions. | ||
| And now Raul has like opened up some private enterprise and stuff. | ||
| And that was a whole diplomatic process within the country, too, where they lifted some economic things. | ||
| So now private businesses can flourish. | ||
| And so it's opening up because they've realized that they can't obviously have it like that forever, especially now that the travel's lifted. | ||
| But it's going to be really interesting to see what happens, especially now that the U.S. still has this subversion tactics going on, these programs in place that encourage people to defect, and then also Gitmo. | ||
| It's a perpetual occupation of fucking Cuba that Raul has said time and again, give us Guantanamo Bay, you leased it under false pretenses, we really want it back, and the U.S. says it's off the table. | ||
| So that's the way the empire works. | ||
| We don't give back bases. | ||
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So, how does that, we, like, leased it? | |
| 1903, we leased the Guantanamo Bay Naval Base, which is a giant swath of land for, like, a, you know, housing port. | ||
| But it's connected to Cuba. | ||
| It's on Cuba. | ||
| It's in Cuba. | ||
| So, we leased it then when we were allies. | ||
| Batista was our boy. | ||
| Batista was, like, a corporate fucking lord, you know? | ||
| And so we had all these private enterprises in Cuba, and then the Socialist Revolution happened, and then... | ||
| The lease agreement said this has to be agreed by both parties to continue. | ||
| Or, I'm sorry, to dissolve. | ||
| And then when the Cuban Revolution happened, Cuba was like, give us back Guantanamo. | ||
| And the U.S. was like, you know what? | ||
| We don't agree to that. | ||
| So we're just going to keep it. | ||
| and they never accepted a dime they never cashed a dime for the rent of the lease after the 1956 or whatever the um the revolution was so yeah it was it was that's really disturbing to me because i'm like dude just give them back i'm going to pay like you can pretend that we're normal with cuba but it's never going to be normal unless you give them some respect and if you're so scared of socialism and if you are so sure that socialism is a failure then let them fail on their own lift the blockade and let Let's Cuba just function, and let's see what happens. | ||
| But right now, it's been so crippled in so many ways that it's impossible to really know what the country would be like without U.S. interference. | ||
| Well, it's very bizarre that we're allowed to trade with all sorts of different countries that are accused of all sorts of different heinous crimes against humanity, but we can't with Cuba. | ||
| I mean, just think about all the different countries that we're allowed to trade with. | ||
| It's fine. | ||
| You can go to the Congo right now and hang out with warlords. | ||
| You can do whatever the fuck you want. | ||
| Saudi Arabia, we go back and forth with them all the time. | ||
| Chicks just got the right to vote. | ||
| Did you hear that? | ||
| Like in recent weeks? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| It was in the news yesterday. | ||
| Pull it off my Twitter, Jamie. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Saudi Arabia, women in Saudi Arabia are going to get the right to vote. | ||
| Hallelujah! | ||
| Look, it's 2015. Take off your burqas, women? | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Not allowed to do that. | ||
| We haven't liberated them yet. | ||
| No. | ||
| Well, I live in Iran. | ||
| They wear just fucking tons of makeup. | ||
| They look hot as fuck. | ||
| They wear skin-tight clothes because you're not allowed to show shit, but they wear yoga pants, like a total workaround. | ||
| But they have to have that thing in their head. | ||
| Women are allowed to vote in Saudi Arabia for the first time in history. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| Isn't that nuts? | ||
| August 24th, 2015. Bam! | ||
| 15th? | ||
| I guess not 15. For the first time in the country's history, women in Saudi Arabia have been given the right to vote and stand as political candidates in the upcoming elections. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Isn't that amazing? | ||
| Don't show your ankles. | ||
| Don't drive. | ||
| Don't show your ankles. | ||
| I guess the man needs to escort them to the voting booths because they still can't do anything without a mail permission. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| They can't even drive yet. | ||
| They can vote and they can't drive. | ||
| You know the former King Abdullah, sorry, praise be with him, fucking... | ||
| Peace be upon him. | ||
| Peace be upon Abdullah. | ||
| But no, his daughters are trapped in a dungeon, being starved. | ||
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What? | |
| Yeah, they're like living underground in some bunker that they're trapped. | ||
| They did an interview with someone saying, like, help us. | ||
| We disobeyed our father and we're being punished for... | ||
| Oh, fuck. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's super crazy. | ||
| Look it up. | ||
| Grand Staircase. | ||
| Everyone go to the Grand Staircase. | ||
| Every time I talk to Abby Martin, she gives me more depressing things to look up. | ||
| This is always awesome talking to you. | ||
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It's so awesome talking to you. | |
| Thank you so much for inviting me. | ||
| Anytime, my friend. | ||
| Alright, that's it for today, you fucks. | ||
| We love the shit out of you, and we'll see you soon. | ||
| Bye-bye. |
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