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Damn, Sam Stout got KO'd in the first round. | ||
Ain't that a bitch. | ||
We're alive. | ||
Sorry we're late, but that's just how shit goes. | ||
This is a Fight Companion podcast. | ||
Have you ever heard one of these before? | ||
Expect chaos. | ||
Expect a lot of talking over. | ||
Expect very little... | ||
This is not like a regular podcast. | ||
If you listen to this, it's like, wow, they're going to talk about some cool shit. | ||
Maybe, but what we're actually doing is watching fights. | ||
And during the fights, while they're playing off live, we're going to be talking. | ||
Eddie Bravo's here. | ||
Thank you for having me, John. | ||
You motherfucking owls. | ||
Aubrey Marcus is in this. | ||
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What's up? | |
Tate Fletcher just has entered the domicile. | ||
The big Tate Fletcher. | ||
Holla. | ||
He's got a little more feminine when Tate was here. | ||
Say hi to the world, Brian Callen. | ||
I'll do whatever you say. | ||
And Brendan motherfucking Schaub is also here. | ||
The fight has already started. | ||
We've got 3 minutes and 30 seconds on the clock left in the round. | ||
First fight, Marina Moroz and Valerie Neterno. | ||
Letourneau. | ||
Banging, too. | ||
The girls are banging. | ||
This is the first fight, and if you're watching this live, you will probably be about 10 to 15 seconds behind the actual live fight. | ||
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Oh! | |
Oh! | ||
Big right in. | ||
Letourneau! | ||
She shut her lights down for a second there. | ||
That's that weird moment when someone's legs give out. | ||
Look at this. | ||
Empty half. | ||
Oh, I like that elbow to the stomach. | ||
To the gut. | ||
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Yeah. | |
You don't see that too often. | ||
To the baby maker. | ||
The way she's trying to catch the half guard, the girl on the bottom. | ||
But you know who stopped Chuck Liddell? | ||
Rampage stopped Chuck Liddell with elbows to the body. | ||
Remember that? | ||
But from side control like that, with a downward elbow right there, you don't see that often. | ||
Well, you're not supposed to. | ||
Even on the body, you're not even supposed to throw that down. | ||
You see knees from there now. | ||
So stupid. | ||
From side control. | ||
You can't even throw a downward elbow to the thigh. | ||
No 12 to 6, right? | ||
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Yeah. | |
Yeah. | ||
That's illegal. | ||
That's so stupid. | ||
It's so stupid. | ||
Super old school rule. | ||
Do we have a seat for young Tate Fletcher? | ||
It's an old school rule, wasn't it, Joe? | ||
Because they were saying a karate move was breaking, right? | ||
This is a true story. | ||
Breaking boards 12 to 6. That shit's so dangerous. | ||
It was actually the Athletic Commission when John McCarthy met with them. | ||
Big John McCarthy way back in the day. | ||
He told me this. | ||
They were so scared because they had seen ESPN like 2 o'clock in the morning, white dudes breaking cinder blocks. | ||
With elbows, so lame. | ||
Can you do that any other way though? | ||
Is that the most powerful fucking strike? | ||
No, a heel, a spinning heel kick will knock you into the next dimension. | ||
But can you break the same kind of shit they break with their elbows with other parts of your body? | ||
It's just not there. | ||
Your heel or shin. | ||
There's nothing tougher than your heel and shin. | ||
Your heel doesn't hurt. | ||
Like you can kick someone in the head with your heel And it doesn't hurt. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Like, you break the shit out of your hands. | ||
When was the last time you ever heard of someone breaking their heel by kicking someone? | ||
Look at this girl's got some pretty clever jiu-jitsu, man. | ||
Inverted triangle? | ||
Look at this, she's only got the head in there, but this bitch can't breathe. | ||
Valerie Naterno, I shouldn't say bitch, because I do work for this organization. | ||
Be professional. | ||
That's a really weird position. | ||
It's not doing anything. | ||
It's just control. | ||
It's not necessarily doing anything, but people have gone out from no arm triangles. | ||
That's a fact. | ||
People have gone unconscious. | ||
If you have a good squeeze and you have short legs... | ||
You need something else in there, though. | ||
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Most of the time. | |
You really need an arm in there. | ||
You should shut the fuck up right now, probably. | ||
Sorry, man. | ||
Are you sure she could be pushing it down on her knee? | ||
No, you don't know anything. | ||
I do. | ||
You don't know. | ||
But you know, one thing that does work, though, is the fucking leg scissors. | ||
People do go to sleep with that leg scissors. | ||
I agree. | ||
Leg scissors, yeah. | ||
I agree. | ||
This is different, though. | ||
It is different. | ||
This upper triangle is a little different, especially at a high level. | ||
You're not fucking seeing anyone like that. | ||
Right, but as Valerie Letourneau, she had a high level with jiu-jitsu. | ||
I know her striking's really good. | ||
She could go for a leg scissor right here if she untriangled her legs. | ||
Scissors are a different animal. | ||
Her fucking head is stuck under the chin, though. | ||
Look at that. | ||
That's nasty. | ||
She's stretching her neck out. | ||
That bitch is going to be taller after this fight. | ||
Whenever I'm caught in something like that. | ||
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Call her bitch again. | |
I can't help it. | ||
Here comes a chin. | ||
It's like a birth. | ||
It's like a birth. | ||
Dude, she's in trouble. | ||
Anytime I'm caught in something like this and I can't get my head out, my main goal, if I can't get my head out, is to do the exact same thing to them. | ||
And it's like, dude, I got you too. | ||
You guys want to let go together? | ||
Let's let go together. | ||
Took the word right out of my mouth, Eddie. | ||
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Yeah. | |
This girl is not letting go, man. | ||
This is really interesting. | ||
That's a lot of energy on your legs, too. | ||
It is? | ||
It is? | ||
What are they doing? | ||
Are they stopping it? | ||
It's over. | ||
They're not standing them up. | ||
What are they doing? | ||
End of the round. | ||
End of the round. | ||
Oh, I was about to say. | ||
Oh my god, I'll be... | ||
Fram oil filtered! | ||
Oil shades done right! | ||
The Fram cam! | ||
The Fram cam! | ||
I appreciate what you were saying. | ||
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I missed it. | |
Don't let him talk about jiu-jitsu. | ||
You don't know a fucking thing. | ||
That's why I butter my chin before I fight. | ||
My chin is always buttery. | ||
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I always, always butter my chin. | |
Is that beer? | ||
Yeah, yeah, it's beer, man. | ||
Uh-oh, the Indian's out. | ||
Grass-fed butter. | ||
Not yet. | ||
I think you need a bottle opener, brother. | ||
Hold on a second. | ||
I saw you the other day at the store, but I didn't say anything. | ||
Hey, Brian, you're on the microphone. | ||
You know this is a podcast. | ||
Yeah, man, but I'm talking to my boy Tate Fletcher. | ||
He and I have a connection. | ||
Aubrey, your boy from Texas, Daniel Jolly. | ||
Brian, Jamie, do we have a... | ||
Tough. | ||
Tough first fight. | ||
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That's a hell of a first fight to give somebody, too. | |
They're both newcomers, though. | ||
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This Latvian dude who looks like a killer. | |
They were tough. | ||
I went to college with Daniel Jolly. | ||
Oh, look at that right hand. | ||
Nice right hand. | ||
I'll tell you what, though. | ||
That girl did recover, and that was a funky position she had Valerie in. | ||
Boom! | ||
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Damn. | |
Man, I am so fired up for December 12th. | ||
You guys should all make a point of let's all try to head out to Vegas for the December 12th event. | ||
That's a mad event, dude. | ||
Chris Weidman. | ||
Chris Weidman takes on Luke Rockhold. | ||
Robbie Lawler takes on Carlos Condit. | ||
And Aldo and McGregor, which probably won't happen. | ||
No, Lawler-Condit's in Australia. | ||
Oh, that's right. | ||
It's not Lawler-Condit. | ||
What is it? | ||
It's the other one. | ||
Yeah, Conor McGregor, Aldo. | ||
But there's one other fight. | ||
There's one other big fight on there. | ||
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Jacare. | |
Hold on. | ||
I'll read that for you. | ||
Hold on. | ||
That might be right. | ||
Jacareo Romero? | ||
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Is it that? | |
That's a motherfucking fight. | ||
I'll tell you right now. | ||
Dude, we should do a fight companion from there, Joe. | ||
Fuck yeah. | ||
On a Friday. | ||
Yeah. | ||
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Yeah. | |
For the biggest card of the year. | ||
That would be awesome. | ||
Okay, hold on a second. | ||
I'll tell you exactly what it is. | ||
Okay, here it is. | ||
Weidman, Rockhold. | ||
Conor, Aldo. | ||
Yeah, Yoel Romero, Jacare. | ||
That's the other big fight. | ||
That's a mother-in-law. | ||
Ronda Rousey, too, right? | ||
No, she's January 3rd. | ||
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Bro, I don't agree with that fight. | |
The Holly Holm fight. | ||
I just don't think that's smart. | ||
I would have gone with Amanda Nunes before Holly Holm. | ||
Amanda Nunes looked like a badass Badass. | ||
She sure knocked out Sarah McMahon. | ||
That's a more dangerous fighter. | ||
It's a more marketable fighter. | ||
I get it, though. | ||
What do you do? | ||
I think that's a good fight. | ||
You know, all you're doing is, because when Ronda leaves, you need people to know these other girls, so basically you're just putting all these marketing dollars into these girls. | ||
They're going to get their ass whooped. | ||
What are you going to do? | ||
You know what I'm saying? | ||
So at least when Ronda leaves, we're like, oh yeah! | ||
That's Holly Holmes! | ||
She thought Ronda got her neck snapped off. | ||
Amanda Nunez looks so impressive. | ||
She definitely has a better stand-up than Ronda, right? | ||
I disagree. | ||
You disagree? | ||
Non-mixed martial arts. | ||
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Really? | |
I would say, too, as a boxer, best boxer in the world, probably. | ||
In the world? | ||
Yeah, as a woman. | ||
But the deal is, in boxing, it's a lot of point fighting. | ||
It's like point karate, and so... | ||
Is there knockout power in those hands, and Ronda has it, and Holly's been doing a different kind of sport for a long time. | ||
I agree 100% with Tate. | ||
Like, if it was boxing, yeah, man, now we gotta fight. | ||
She's only the best boxer in the world for women if Ann Wolfe decides to still not box. | ||
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Ann Wolfe will break a bitch's face. | |
She might be 40 or whatever the fuck she is, but if Ann Wolfe decides to run through a training camp, tell you what, man, that is one chick that, as a dude, I would not want to get punched by. | ||
She's ferocious. | ||
I'll slap a bitch. | ||
I don't care who Ronda fights, really. | ||
I just want to see her fight. | ||
I just want to see her fight. | ||
Tell me you're not going to be interested and excited to see Holly Holm against Ronda. | ||
I want to see it. | ||
If she demolishes her in a minute, fuck, that's a great fight. | ||
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I guess, man. | |
If that's your cup of tea... | ||
Look at Mike Tyson with... | ||
Bruce Seldon. | ||
Bruce Seldon. | ||
Frank Bruno. | ||
Trevor Burbix. | ||
All those guys. | ||
At least those guys were world class though, my man. | ||
That's true. | ||
Ronda competing is like Usain Bolt going to the Special Olympics running track. | ||
They were world class against opposition that wasn't Mike Tyson. | ||
You know what I mean? | ||
Mike Tyson made all those guys. | ||
They were really terrified in the ring. | ||
He went right through them all. | ||
He looks just like Ronda. | ||
But they were legit world-class fighters. | ||
Bruce Seldon? | ||
Yes. | ||
A lot of them were former world champs to get to that point. | ||
Bruce Seldon was a legit world-class heavyweight. | ||
Henry Tillman? | ||
You're talking about Olympians? | ||
Yeah, they were really good fighters, man. | ||
The real problem with those guys is that they were fighting Tyson. | ||
The real problem with Ronda is Ronda is like a Mike Tyson. | ||
She's elite of the elite. | ||
Katzingano's good. | ||
She's good. | ||
Alexis Davis is good. | ||
Those girls are good. | ||
They're good. | ||
She's great. | ||
Are the girls better than them out there? | ||
No. | ||
They're among the best, then. | ||
This is what we got. | ||
Well, they're amongst the best in... | ||
See, if you look at... | ||
There's some girls. | ||
Like, I think Amanda Nunes has real potential. | ||
She has real potential. | ||
If you look at Klaudia. | ||
Klaudia Gidea. | ||
She's world-class. | ||
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Yes. | |
Right? | ||
Klaudia Gedalia is dangerous. | ||
Ioana Jacek, world-class. | ||
There's a few. | ||
Cyborg, steroids or no steroids, you know, take away all that controversy, just go based on her performances, ferocious, terrifying, world-class, dangerous fighter. | ||
That's four. | ||
What is she saying lately, Cyborg? | ||
What's going on with her? | ||
What's the latest shit? | ||
Cyborg, whoever the fuck her manager is, she needs to fire that person. | ||
100%. | ||
She needs to just lose weight, get on a scale, show, here I am, I make 135, Rhonda, that bell is my, you bitch. | ||
That's it. | ||
But what about your idea? | ||
I'm not gonna try and steal your idea. | ||
What about Misha Tate, cyborg catchweight? | ||
Why the fuck Misha's not screaming for this? | ||
I have no idea. | ||
You know what? | ||
I've been thinking about that. | ||
Fuck a catchweight. | ||
If that chick wants to fight at 135, prove you can make 135. I've been saying this, but you guys jumped all over me. | ||
Yeah, I thought about it. | ||
And now I honeydicked my way up. | ||
You know what, 140's cool. | ||
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I like that. | |
I like Rousey Holm and Cyborg Misha on the same card. | ||
Yes, because the fans really don't know Cyborg. | ||
They really don't know who she is. | ||
And if she goes in there and mops Misha Tate, which I don't think she does, I think she loses to Misha. | ||
Just saying. | ||
She could easily lose to Misha at 135. I think she does. | ||
135 is a different animal for Cyborg. | ||
Not only that, it's a different animal now because no IVs. | ||
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Oh, and if you get caught with IV, two-year ban, homie. | |
Two-year ban. | ||
Two-year ban if you use an IV to rehydrate. | ||
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Whoa. | |
You did a podcast with the guy. | ||
Jeff Nowitzki. | ||
Who was that? | ||
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You? | |
Nope. | ||
Who was that? | ||
You? | ||
How dare all of you. | ||
Why... | ||
Did he talk about how you get... | ||
It was me, I'm sorry. | ||
Did he address the fact that it's dangerous for the fighters? | ||
Well, he said, there's actually some studies that show that it's more effective to rehydrate with water, with drinking it orally. | ||
I've not looked into that. | ||
But he said not in extreme cases, though, Joe. | ||
He goes, our athletes are extreme. | ||
He goes, that's for the average person who's dehydrated. | ||
Mouth orals better. | ||
But for extreme cases, IV's better. | ||
If you have a doctor's note, you can get it. | ||
After that podcast, I'm a huge Jeff Nowitzki. | ||
Huge fan. | ||
I was like, damn, this dude is legit. | ||
He's 100% legit. | ||
People are fucked. | ||
Oh, he busted Lance Armstrong. | ||
He busted, well, sort of busted Barry Bonds, because Barry Bonds got... | ||
That was one thing we found out after the podcast. | ||
He was recently acquitted on all charges. | ||
They didn't catch Barry on anything. | ||
Yeah, they wasted all that money. | ||
He was making out some big message they were sending to the children. | ||
I was like, alright, whatever with all that. | ||
Let's not think about kids. | ||
We're talking about adult professional athletes. | ||
They just wanted to screw Barry Bonds over. | ||
Well, what they were doing was they were trying to prosecute. | ||
What they do is they have a mandate. | ||
Someone tells them to prosecute, and they have to prosecute. | ||
What's up with that girl's shorts, by the way, on the left? | ||
You don't like them? | ||
This is like a combination of... | ||
Like, tie shorts and, like, short shorts. | ||
She's got something under them, Joe. | ||
What? | ||
Underwear? | ||
She's got, like, booty shorts under those. | ||
What I never understood was why Congress cared about steroids. | ||
That never made any sense to me at all. | ||
Tremendous waste of money. | ||
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Tax-based money. | |
None of them are athletes. | ||
And Nowitzki was very, uh... | ||
Well, that's the funniest thing about the congressional thing, was listening to Joe Biden talk about how back when he was an athlete... | ||
Bitch, please. | ||
I always wondered if a guy was on something. | ||
Oh, I'm sure, Joe. | ||
My God-given talent. | ||
He's so gross. | ||
Joe Biden's disgusting. | ||
George Bush mentioned steroids in the State of the Union. | ||
People always forget that Joe Biden's a plagiarist, by the way. | ||
Yep, he sure is. | ||
They forget that Joe Biden... | ||
We used to do a Joe Biden night. | ||
Cheered on his law school exam, right? | ||
Yeah, well not just that. | ||
He plagiarized Kennedy's speeches when he was running for president back in 88. When we were at Stitch's Comedy Club in Boston, we used to do a Joe Biden night in the 80s, where comics would go up. | ||
Like, I would do your material, you would do my material. | ||
We'd do each other's shit. | ||
We'd call it Joe Biden night. | ||
Now, how does someone like that, how does someone like that, and someone like Hillary Clinton, forget about the email stuff, but all the stuff she did with Bill Clinton with that Whitewater stuff? | ||
Oh yeah, it's terrifying. | ||
How about all that stuff? | ||
How are they still like candidates? | ||
You need to read the book, The Strange Death of Vince Foster. | ||
Vince Foster was one of the people that was involved in the Whitewater scandal. | ||
Jesus Christ. | ||
Shot himself in a park, okay? | ||
Had the gun still in his hand, which never fucking happens. | ||
Every single expert will tell you, when you shoot yourself in the head, your body goes, wah! | ||
And that gun goes flying. | ||
He's still got the gun in his hand. | ||
No blood at the scene of the crime. | ||
It's a message. | ||
His body had been moved. | ||
100% his body had been moved. | ||
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Conspiracy. | |
That's a message. | ||
That ain't even a conspiracy. | ||
That's gangster. | ||
That's what gangsters do. | ||
They don't want to just kill a body and have them disappear. | ||
They want to leave a message. | ||
You're going to try to bust us? | ||
We're coming after you. | ||
Keep this shit out of court. | ||
You and your family are dead. | ||
Makes sense. | ||
Eddie Bravo just went into fucking conspiracy mode. | ||
Here we go! | ||
Beer, conspiracy mode. | ||
Keep the weed under wraps, Jamie! | ||
Under wraps! | ||
How about Hillary Clinton and Jeb Bush are both candidates for the presidency of the United States? | ||
This is how much Eddie Bravo loves conspiracies. | ||
These criminals! | ||
This girl's in full guard, and he's not even talking about jiu-jitsu. | ||
Doesn't give a fuck. | ||
If she went up to Michigan draw, shut the fuck up. | ||
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I'm pissed because I didn't get that joke. | |
I don't see why after that Ben Saunders fight, everybody's not doing that. | ||
Well, you know what? | ||
I got a message today. | ||
It was really interesting. | ||
It's the jiu-jitsu coaches of the MMA camps. | ||
They decide what they're going to train in. | ||
What was the message, Joe? | ||
If they don't make that decision to stick that into training, let's work a little bit on this elbows from Mission Control. | ||
Look at this. | ||
Look what she's trying to do here. | ||
She's trying to wrap her leg and stick her foot underneath the armpit of Letourneau, who's on the bottom or on the top. | ||
Dude, I wish she gave up on him, but look, she keeps driving. | ||
Oh, Triangle City! | ||
Oh, damn. | ||
All she's got to do is squeeze her legs, leg curls, pull the head. | ||
She needs to control the head. | ||
Grab the shin. | ||
It's just grab the head at this point. | ||
Oh, but look at... | ||
Laterno thinks she's safe by tucking her arm under like that. | ||
Oh, man. | ||
Definitely not, though. | ||
That shit doesn't work. | ||
Especially like this. | ||
Oh, you get the squeeze. | ||
You'll get the squeeze. | ||
No, it's not going to happen. | ||
I wish in between rounds they'd have highlights. | ||
It would already happen. | ||
Oh, wow. | ||
Nice. | ||
Nice escape. | ||
I wish they'd show the previous fights. | ||
Like, just a quick highlight in between rounds. | ||
Laterno's a nasty striker, man. | ||
She's got good technique. | ||
You see the way she moves? | ||
Very loose and relaxed. | ||
Good, like, variation in her speed. | ||
She counters well, too. | ||
She just keeps her head down, chin down, just pow, pow! | ||
I think, and I'm beginning to listen to Nick Curzon about this, I think a giant part of what holds fighters back is strength and conditioning. | ||
I used to think that it's more important to work on skills than anything, and I think up to a certain point it is, but now I think what holds these people back is like Letourneau right now. | ||
I see a slower fighter than I saw in the first round. | ||
I see some significant slowing, and she's having a hard time executing. | ||
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I agree. | |
It depends on your skill level. | ||
Yes. | ||
It depends on your skill level. | ||
You should focus more on strength condition and get in shape so you can show your skills for three rounds, 15 minutes. | ||
In the first minute, two minutes of a fight, it's all about your skills. | ||
Right. | ||
But then as fights go on, it's all about how much conditioning do you have in the tank to use those skills. | ||
And nerves. | ||
It's all about... | ||
How quickly you can recover and can your body recover multiple times? | ||
And you'd think at an elite level they would be able to go 25 minutes. | ||
Most can. | ||
At a very high level most can. | ||
They don't seem gassed, they seem a little... | ||
Well they're slower. | ||
They're slower for sure. | ||
But they're still like Dos Anjos. | ||
When we saw Dos Anjos fight Pettis, that motherfucker kept that same pace for five rounds. | ||
He was guns a-blazin' for five rounds. | ||
Dude, look at Demetrius Johnson against Ali Bagatinov. | ||
Ali Bagatinov was on EPO! And he outworked that motherfucker. | ||
TJ Dillashaw, same thing. | ||
Yep, exactly. | ||
Same thing. | ||
He put a clinic on Burrell. | ||
You think TJ Dillashaw, Mighty Mouse would happen? | ||
Can't happen? | ||
I think that would be a great fight. | ||
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Why? | |
It's only ten pounds. | ||
Mighty Mouse has fought 135. He fought Dominic Cruz. | ||
He lost to Dominic Cruz. | ||
Yep. | ||
I think that T.J. Dillshaw is one of the best pound-for-pound fighters in the world. | ||
I think that fight with Hennon Burrell was like a wake-up call to everybody. | ||
He beat the fucking shit out of Hennon Burrell. | ||
What's next for T.J.? He beat the fucking shit out of him. | ||
Like he owned him from the moment. | ||
It wasn't even a fight, really. | ||
It wasn't a fight. | ||
It was a clinic. | ||
What's next with TJ? Dominic Cruz? | ||
Dominic Cruz. | ||
Cruz's knee doesn't fall off. | ||
Everything. | ||
His knee, like... | ||
He breaks his hands all the time. | ||
So you can't count on that. | ||
I'd love to see that fight. | ||
That's going to be a huge fight. | ||
And Dominic is natural. | ||
He's all natural. | ||
And he's in his 30s. | ||
At 135 pounds, traditionally, especially in boxing, once you hit the 30s... | ||
Tough, man. | ||
NFL running backs, too. | ||
You rely on speed and reflexes more than anybody. | ||
Because they're so fast. | ||
You look at Mighty Mouse and Dodson. | ||
Holy shit, that's going to be a blur. | ||
That fight's going to be... | ||
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Dodson is a legit threat, though. | |
He's a legit threat. | ||
Dodson can knock out anybody. | ||
He knocked out TJ. People don't forget about that. | ||
On The Ultimate Fighter. | ||
Fuck yeah, he did. | ||
He beat the shit out of TJ. He did. | ||
Different TJ for sure. | ||
Totally different TJ. There's TJ pre and post bang. | ||
True. | ||
It's tough, man, because no one loves fighting more than us, right? | ||
But that frickin' Dotson vs. | ||
Johnson fight, it's a tough sell, man. | ||
Like, I'm not like, ooh, I can't fucking wait to see them throw down. | ||
It's different. | ||
And those guys are more talented than anyone. | ||
It's because you're a sizist. | ||
You might be right. | ||
You're a sizist! | ||
Hey, me and the entire world then, apparently. | ||
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No problem. | |
Because he's not selling pay-per-views. | ||
Do we got another round of this? | ||
Are his shows among the worst? | ||
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You're a sizist. | |
Like, real bad? | ||
Not good. | ||
It's tough, man. | ||
He's the most talented guy in the UFC. It's just people, it's hard for people to jump on board on a small guy. | ||
Like, he got denied access to another club. | ||
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He's the frickin' multi-time world champion of the UFC. They thought he was 15? | |
They had a height limit? | ||
I don't know what they had. | ||
No, there was just a lot of people that didn't know who he was. | ||
You know those lines in Vegas? | ||
Nobody gets in those fucking lines. | ||
Oh, they didn't recognize him. | ||
Yeah, they didn't recognize him. | ||
Yeah, those lines are bullshit. | ||
It's a bummer, man. | ||
Because he's so talented. | ||
He needs a couple more good fights like Dodson. | ||
No, he needs an arch-rifle. | ||
He needs someone to talk about. | ||
He needs a Conor McGregor, a 125. Pearson Felder? | ||
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Holy shit. | |
Great fight. | ||
Felder, I'm a huge fan of that dude. | ||
Yeah, he's a beast. | ||
Holy fuck. | ||
Yeah, he's fun to watch. | ||
That guy... | ||
He throws strikes from everywhere. | ||
Especially after that Barboza fight. | ||
God damn. | ||
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The fact that he went the distance with him. | |
Oh yeah. | ||
He went the distance with him and Barboza was kicking the shit out of his body. | ||
That switch kick. | ||
That switch kick is the fastest switch kick I've ever seen in my life. | ||
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Ever. | |
Remember Jamie Varner was talking about how before, and he beat him, but before that he was the most scared he's ever been before a fight? | ||
That's a scary fight. | ||
Against Barboza? | ||
When Joe Silva calls him and said, you want Barboza? | ||
There's a couple guys where you get that call and you're like, oh shit, I guess I'll take it. | ||
Think about that Terry Edom fight with that wheel kick to the head, first wheel kick KO in the UFC. And then you gotta fight him next? | ||
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Yeah. | |
Jesus. | ||
His kicks, he's the only guy to ever stop two fighters with leg kicks. | ||
He's nasty, man. | ||
Mike Lulo and Rafael Oliveira, both with leg kicks. | ||
I'm not going to rat the guy out, but super high-level guy. | ||
Super high-level guy. | ||
My manager goes, Brendan, I want you in on this call. | ||
This is the best part of my job. | ||
Watch this, bro. | ||
Just got this huge fight announcement. | ||
He's texting Joe Silva. | ||
Watch this. | ||
We're in a hotel. | ||
Calls him on speed dial. | ||
He goes, my man! | ||
Got a fight for you. | ||
Who said this? | ||
Alexander Gustafson. | ||
September whatever. | ||
And he's all, wait, wait. | ||
And the guy goes... | ||
Ah, shit, really? | ||
He goes, yeah, man. | ||
He goes, ah, fuck. | ||
Well, let's get this paper. | ||
Hangs up the phone. | ||
My manager's all, ah, fuck, man. | ||
Your boy's gonna lose for sure. | ||
Let's get this paper. | ||
He goes, ah. | ||
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Let's get this paper. | |
His first reaction goes, ah, fuck. | ||
How do I solve that? | ||
Yeah. | ||
How do I solve that? | ||
Can't tell you, man. | ||
I'm not gonna sell the guy out. | ||
Big, long, tall motherfucker. | ||
And how long ago was this? | ||
It was TJ, before they had weight classes. | ||
It was TJ Dillashaw. | ||
It was so funny, man. | ||
He was in Japan. | ||
He was so heartbroken. | ||
That's crazy. | ||
Yeah, that's the thing about the UFC and MMA in general. | ||
Like, there's a lot of fighters that they jump into the UFC, and they're starting to have some success. | ||
Well, there's a very short climb until you're in world-class territory, and if you beat one of those motherfuckers... | ||
Off to the races! | ||
B-shop style! | ||
You're in... | ||
B-shop stop. | ||
I thought Chris Tush's shirt and they're like, oh cool, here's Gonzaga. | ||
I was like, holy fuck, man. | ||
Easy, bro. | ||
I have five fights. | ||
What's up, Brad? | ||
Who's that? | ||
Stanley Coppin. | ||
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Brad! | |
Dallas, Tampa. | ||
Excuse me, sir, is that an affliction shirt? | ||
Yes, it is. | ||
He's an hockey player, man. | ||
I don't know anything about it. | ||
God damn it. | ||
It's about ice and there's a black puck, I think they call it. | ||
You gotta get it in the net and when they do it, you can go crazy. | ||
And live, when you see it live, it's incredible. | ||
This is a good fight, man. | ||
This is a dope fight. | ||
Oliver, Aubin Mercier is amazing. | ||
No, no, no. | ||
Tony Simms is from Denver. | ||
He's older. | ||
He's been boxing since he was like six. | ||
He got in the UFC super late, man. | ||
This is his second short fight in a row. | ||
I'm telling you, this kid is a monster. | ||
Tough fight for him, though, either way. | ||
Hey, give me one of them beers there, Mr. Callum. | ||
Yeah, sure. | ||
I want mine a little wobbly pop, Callum. | ||
You'll hear me going, Olivier. | ||
I'm excited about this main event, man. | ||
Eddie, we got the bet on the main event or what, bro? | ||
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You honeydicked me. | |
That's illegal. | ||
No, we did co-main event. | ||
I got Neil Magny. | ||
You got Eric Silva, remember? | ||
But you honeydicked me, man. | ||
Doesn't matter. | ||
Hold on. | ||
The people listening to this don't know what we're talking about. | ||
Because we had this discussion before the podcast. | ||
But Brendan Schaub sent me a photo. | ||
And I'm going to take this photo. | ||
And I'm going to... | ||
I'll show it to you guys. | ||
But this is the difference. | ||
You can find this photo online. | ||
This is the difference between Eric Silva... | ||
A while ago and Eric Silva now. | ||
A fan said that to me. | ||
Honeydicking should be like steroids. | ||
You know what I mean? | ||
That shit should be bad. | ||
You know what I mean? | ||
Look at the photo on the top. | ||
That's him now. | ||
Look at the photo on the bottom. | ||
Oh, I got honeydicked. | ||
No, you got Eric Silva, bro. | ||
Are you suggesting? | ||
Can I see that, please? | ||
This is the suggestion. | ||
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Oh, no! | |
Oh, God, no! | ||
That was quick, though. | ||
That was beer and a laptop. | ||
I've just been thinking about getting a new laptop. | ||
I'm really thinking. | ||
Oh, no, that's $1,500. | ||
What'd you say, Jamie? | ||
Anyway, so the suggestion is that it's possible that Eric Silva may or may not have been... | ||
Oh, looks like I got lucky here. | ||
Good Lord, what a difference. | ||
It only got on my screen. | ||
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God, all I know is I'm getting on the old TRT. I hate to tell you you're still not going to look like that. | |
You don't know. | ||
I won't have his hair, I'll tell you that much. | ||
You're already 80. You should have done that in the 60s. | ||
Guys, I've been taking creatine. | ||
That's why I look thicker. | ||
He has been taking creatine. | ||
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Yep. | |
Well that stuff sort of works. | ||
It does. | ||
It makes your face fat. | ||
It does. | ||
Adds water weight for sure. | ||
I made my face fat. | ||
That's what I was telling him. | ||
I was like, why is my face fat? | ||
I gained five pounds of a face. | ||
That is a remarkable difference. | ||
I guess he's just not working at it as hard. | ||
Yeah, he changed his diet. | ||
He's eating more fatty foods. | ||
Maybe more acai or some shit. | ||
More acai? | ||
Either way, Eddie, you can't back out now, brother. | ||
I got Neil Magny, he took the fight on two-week notice. | ||
I think Eddie is allowed to back off before the fight actually starts. | ||
You know what, I'm not gonna back off. | ||
Even with your steroids, I'm gonna do it. | ||
I'm gonna go with the honeydicken. | ||
Notice how he said your steroids? | ||
Like I'm the dealer or something. | ||
We'll do it. | ||
It's on. | ||
Brian, how do you feel about this? | ||
I'm excited. | ||
You know Eric Silva's the favorite. | ||
Yeah, but he looks soft now. | ||
He's still a cutie pie. | ||
He already had a problem with cardio, right? | ||
Yes. | ||
He's a monster that first round. | ||
He's a ferocious guy, and he expends a lot of energy. | ||
When you fight a guy like Matt Brown, that shit is not recommended. | ||
Who would you take if you had to bet? | ||
The last thing you want to do is be drained. | ||
If you had to bet, who would you take right now? | ||
I like Magny. | ||
I like Magny in that fight because I think Magny is more consistent, and Magny has great endurance, and Magny's only problem that is shown inside the octagon at all is dealing with Damian motherfucking Maia, who is a constrictor. | ||
He's a constrictor. | ||
That's like you're a chained-up sheep. | ||
And this fucking giant anaconda's wrapping its body around you and squeezing it tight. | ||
Well, who do you have in the main event, Eddie? | ||
I had Holloway, but you didn't want... | ||
Me, too. | ||
No, I got Holloway, too. | ||
Really? | ||
That guy's a beast. | ||
Okay, I disagree. | ||
I got Oliveira. | ||
You got $1,000? | ||
Yeah, I do have $1,000. | ||
Well, why don't you bet Brian Kelly? | ||
I'm fairly wealthy. | ||
I'll take the bet just to make the... | ||
I don't want to take a thousand dollars from a good friend, but I'll bet you 20 bucks just so I could win. | ||
All right, what are we betting? | ||
Why can't we do 20 dollars? | ||
Well, how about we get out of here and you pay? | ||
Yeah, let's do dinner. | ||
That's a good call. | ||
I've got to make sure I can do that. | ||
We go get some steak. | ||
We've got to make sure. | ||
Isn't that gross? | ||
We're married. | ||
We have kids. | ||
This is bullshit. | ||
This is bullshit. | ||
We're not even masters of our own domain. | ||
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It's true. | |
I gotta see if I can. | ||
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Makes me sick. | |
I gotta see if I can do what I want to do. | ||
I know. | ||
Because my boss, I have to check in with the boss. | ||
Well, she's so awesome. | ||
She lets me do everything, so, you know. | ||
Yeah, no, I get that. | ||
Yeah, yeah. | ||
You're going to dinner, though, huh? | ||
Except having dinner. | ||
On Sundays, you kinda gotta... | ||
I understand. | ||
...put in your time. | ||
Alright, so make it 20 bucks. | ||
Nah, we'll go to dinner. | ||
Oh, okay. | ||
Alright. | ||
I got bullied into dinner. | ||
I have to pay now. | ||
But don't get me wrong, Max Holloway can win, and I would not be surprised. | ||
He's the favorite. | ||
Is he? | ||
He's the favorite. | ||
Who am I taking? | ||
See, I disagree with that. | ||
It's a close fight. | ||
I think it's a close fight. | ||
This is my take on it. | ||
I think that Oliveira is a little more tactical, both standing up and on the ground. | ||
Better on the ground, I agree. | ||
I'll switch it up. | ||
I'll take Oliveira. | ||
Even standing up. | ||
You want to switch up the bet? | ||
Switch it up. | ||
Double or nothing, I'll forget about the Eric Silva. | ||
Well, that one's fun to bet on, too. | ||
Well, let's see how... | ||
Well, no, no, no. | ||
Isn't Oliveira, like, kind of... | ||
Wouldn't he be kind of flubby, too? | ||
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What do you mean? | |
Flubby? | ||
Yeah, Oliveira, no? | ||
What's flubby? | ||
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Basically... | |
He's not going to look the same, you're saying? | ||
Yes. | ||
Nah, he's a really skinny guy. | ||
Yeah, he's thin. | ||
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Yeah, he doesn't look like a Reuter at all. | |
He actually dropped down from 55 to 45. Yeah, he's shredded always. | ||
Yeah, I don't think he's a steroid user. | ||
You want to switch it up? | ||
You take Holloway? | ||
Well, let's see after the Neil Magnet fight. | ||
We'll do double or nothing, and I'll stick with Holloway. | ||
Well, let's, before we, before I ask you this question, before I ask you this question, before I ask you this question, let's think about the possibility of the MMA media blowing us out of proportion, because they always do. | ||
TMZ? What, what, it is TMZ now, right? | ||
Straight up TMZ. Yahoo! | ||
The last fight companion we had had like seven different articles. | ||
Dude. | ||
Us drunk and stoned, talking shit. | ||
I snapshot it, sent it to the rogue and went, oh shit. | ||
It just said fuck. | ||
Now here's the question. | ||
What percentage of the Brazilian jiu-jitsu fighters or Brazilian MMA fighters you think are on steroids? | ||
If you had a guess. | ||
Freezing. | ||
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Don't say it. | |
Look at that face. | ||
No, you know what? | ||
I don't want to just single out Brazilians. | ||
I think a majority of the guys are. | ||
A majority. | ||
But a lot of the Brazilians. | ||
So you think it's 90% of all the MMA fighters are on steroids? | ||
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Correct. | |
What Brazilians do you think are not on steroids? | ||
That's a good question. | ||
That's ridiculous. | ||
Which ones are not? | ||
Nogueira for sure, right? | ||
Nogueira. | ||
He's not. | ||
Brandon, why are your eyes so wide? | ||
Brandon, why do you look like you've seen a ghost? | ||
Little Nog? | ||
Why do you look like a fighting jeep? | ||
Come on. | ||
Let's not do this. | ||
Eddie gets me in trouble, man. | ||
How do you think we knew the Ronda thing last time? | ||
No, it wasn't me. | ||
Yeah, it was you. | ||
I apologize. | ||
I feel so bad. | ||
No, seriously, I feel really, really bad for that. | ||
The understated thing about the steroids. | ||
Was Tate's beard on steroids? | ||
The understated thing about the steroids is the mental aspect. | ||
These fighters aren't coming out as aggressive. | ||
Silva's a destroyer normally, but let's say he was on TRT. What's he going to be now? | ||
Is he going to be a little more passive? | ||
Completely different game. | ||
It's not just the body, it's the mind. | ||
People rely on that testosterone for aggression. | ||
What we see when everybody came from Pride. | ||
Pride is the Killers were like, that's the better show than the UFC athletes. | ||
They all came and got beat up by guys that weren't top-tier guys in the UFC. Every one of those Pride athletes. | ||
And that's all due to drugs. | ||
And that's not abilities or strength, even. | ||
I think it's exactly what Aubrey's saying. | ||
They're like, who am I without this? | ||
Not only that, these guys weren't doing it properly, I'm sure. | ||
They didn't take enough time to recover and get their natural test level, so they were probably compromised. | ||
So not only were they not on steroids, they were compromised. | ||
Because when you look at some of those guys in Pride, we don't need to name names. | ||
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It's awesome. | |
We don't need to name names. | ||
But when they came over, they looked physically different. | ||
They looked physically different. | ||
You know? | ||
I mean, look at Krokop. | ||
There's a perfect advantage. | ||
Example, Krokop was a goddamn destroyer. | ||
I mean, you look at some of the fights that he had, the wear and tear, there's a lot going on, but he just was a different guy when he came to. | ||
You could probably look at the amount of high kicks he threw before and after, and it's just he wasn't aggressive enough when he came back. | ||
He used to throw that left kick all the time. | ||
It was just like... | ||
Still fucking him. | ||
1FC? Do they care about steroids? | ||
1FC? Yeah, they want you on them. | ||
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For sure? | |
1FC? Yeah. | ||
It helps soccer kicks to the face. | ||
Steroids are not. | ||
Steroids are not. | ||
Broke out fucked me up. | ||
When is Roger fighting? | ||
Coming up soon, I think. | ||
September 1st, maybe even. | ||
He looks good in training. | ||
Look at some of the videos of him hitting pads. | ||
I hung out with him in Thailand. | ||
It was a trip. | ||
He was doing good as a coach. | ||
It was a trip. | ||
He had fun, man. | ||
Right when I got to Thailand, right when I landed, the thing that I tripped out on the most is everybody. | ||
I'm in a taxi, and we're getting driven to Tiger Muay Thai, and everybody's on little scooters. | ||
Like four people per scooter, kids, they're holding their kids and everyone's riding scooters. | ||
And I thought, how insane and scary is this? | ||
I end up at Roger Huerta's house a couple nights later. | ||
We're hanging out, chilling, and there's like four of us and they said, let's go to the party town down the street. | ||
You know, it's like 45 minutes away. | ||
We're like, okay, let's go. | ||
I'm like, how are we getting there? | ||
They go, we're getting on scooters. | ||
So I drove, Roger Werther drove me in a scooter, and I'm sitting behind him in a scooter 45 minutes through the hills. | ||
Come on, Tony Sims. | ||
This fight is starting right now. | ||
Auburn Mercier and Sims. | ||
Powerful Tony Sims. | ||
Four minutes, 53 seconds right now. | ||
Allez, Olivier! | ||
Frappez, frappez très fort! | ||
Abol Mercier is friends with the guys at Joe Beef in Montreal, that restaurant that we always eat at. | ||
He's a great guy. | ||
Le boeuf, le boeuf. | ||
He's got that horse meat in him. | ||
Allez, allez! | ||
Like, literally, they eat horse meat. | ||
Allez, mon ami! | ||
Dude, I'm telling you, Tony Simms' boxing is fucking nasty. | ||
His boxing is filthy. | ||
I'm doing French. | ||
You need to have earphones on so you hear how retarded you sound. | ||
Yeah, but I'm doing French, bro. | ||
I'm helping the French people. | ||
You're French fans. | ||
Is there meat you could eat that can get you the similar effects as steroids? | ||
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No. | |
If you just eat nothing but rhino meat or something? | ||
Yeah. | ||
Don't spread those rumors. | ||
Asians will pick up on it and there'll be no rhino blood. | ||
Bison testicle. | ||
There's got to be something I could eat. | ||
Eat a shitload of raw bison testicle. | ||
That they can't ban. | ||
Oh, you can't eat moose anymore, because it turns out moose shrinks your bones. | ||
There's some stuff that has IGF-1 in it, you know, that you can get, but like really good deer antler will have IGF-1 in it. | ||
How about you how about you there's a guy cows that are stuffed with steroids In the meat Did that thing with the antlers there's a guy who ran an elk farm up in Alberta and He got an elk farm just for the deer antler shit It would take the velvet velvet And the velvet, and the velvet has IGF-1. | ||
You spray it in your mouth, and it gives you a benefit, like, similar to taking growth hormone. | ||
The market dried up, like, instantaneously. | ||
Somehow or another, I don't know what it was. | ||
Whether it became too easy to get real growth hormone, or people just stopped using it. | ||
I don't know what the fuck happened, but this guy's stuck with a bunch of elk on his land. | ||
Every now and then he wanders out there and shoots one and eats it. | ||
Spent a million bucks. | ||
He's got these fenced-in elk. | ||
Yeah, it's just not the most efficient way to do it. | ||
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Boxing doesn't help you in this position. | |
IGF-1 isn't legal anyways, and so, like, what's the point? | ||
Is it legal to take that, if you take that deer antler shit, you can test positive? | ||
So, the trick is, is that if you test it and show that it has IGF-1, then it's not illegal. | ||
So, you have to do it untested, and then you don't know whether it's got it in there or not. | ||
So, it's like this weird cat mouth thing. | ||
I'm confused. | ||
Well, you're not really allowed to sell IGF-1 over the counter, right? | ||
So if you standardize the elk antler to make sure that it has IGF-1, then it's not legal, as far as I understand when I looked into it. | ||
So even though it's still just a natural product that contains... | ||
IGF-1, so it's illegal no matter what. | ||
To sell as a dietary supplement. | ||
I mean, you could sell it, but it's not approved as a dietary supplement. | ||
So it would be illegal, but you wouldn't test for it. | ||
So you could sell antler, but you don't test for it. | ||
But then the consumer doesn't know if it's bullshit antler. | ||
You can't say anything. | ||
You just gotta sell it. | ||
Does it have to be new antler, like the velvet on the new antler or something? | ||
Well, velvet is when they grow. | ||
It only happens when they grow. | ||
Unless you have a female that grows antlers, which is very rare. | ||
And sometimes they stay in velvet. | ||
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How the fuck did someone find that out? | |
How did they figure there's IGF-1 in the antlers? | ||
What kind of crazy fuck figured that out? | ||
I don't know. | ||
Some fucking country axe-swinging redneck was just eating antlers. | ||
And just shredded. | ||
It's like, shit! | ||
This dick was just nine feet. | ||
My knee feel better. | ||
IGF is insulin growth factor one. | ||
Is that what that is? | ||
Isn't it what HGH converts to in the body? | ||
Is that correct or no? | ||
I'd have to do a little research and go deeper on that. | ||
I'm not sure. | ||
A lot of guys were taking that, though. | ||
A lot of football players were taking that. | ||
Yeah, a ton of football players. | ||
Deer Antler? | ||
Yeah. | ||
It's real popular stuff. | ||
I know a tennis pro does it. | ||
And I was like, oh, I don't know. | ||
And what did he say? | ||
He swears by it. | ||
He can play all day. | ||
Do they test in tennis? | ||
He swears by goji berries and deer antler. | ||
Goji berries are very high in antioxidants. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Do they test in tennis? | ||
For sure, yeah, definitely. | ||
That's why they tried to test, it was Venus or Serena. | ||
For sure. | ||
She ran into her fucking safe, she had a safe house, safe room in her house in case her house got home invaded. | ||
She ran into her safe room and called the cops on the fucking drug testers. | ||
Really? | ||
Because she didn't want to get tested? | ||
Exactly. | ||
Dude, after talking to Nowitzki and talking to the two guys that I've talked to, what's his face, from Balco, Victor Conte and Nowitzki, I am convinced that there's just a giant percentage of professional athletes that are on steroids and You need to talk to them to figure that out, Joe. | ||
You really need to find out what the methods are. | ||
They have testosterone now that they're making with animals. | ||
It's no longer with yams. | ||
So now the carbon isotope test that they used to catch people that were taking plant-based testosterone doesn't work anymore. | ||
So now this guy's going to be on this animal-based testosterone. | ||
So explain to me how they get... | ||
I mean, I can't believe they get testosterone from yams. | ||
There's no idea. | ||
You should probably pull out your phone and Google it and explain it to us all. | ||
And there's micro-dosing now, right? | ||
Your boy was talking about that. | ||
They're doing four-hour doses, a dose that only stays in your system for four hours. | ||
Yeah, that's like the Alex Rodriguez shit. | ||
He was taking gummy bears. | ||
Testosterone gummy bears. | ||
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Damn. | |
It's not going to be long until they can clone your pituitary and just have it pumping out your own hormones. | ||
Yeah, right? | ||
Yeah, I want some more from my spare pituitary over there. | ||
Yeah, people get a second pituitary gland stalled in their head. | ||
Yeah, for sure. | ||
Why'd your head get wider? | ||
Shut up! | ||
Just put one in the taint. | ||
Just right in the taint. | ||
Right in the taint. | ||
Yeah, you get your spleen removed, replace it with a pituitary gland. | ||
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Totally. | |
Did he say anything about the long-term effects? | ||
It doesn't seem like there's any evidence that microdosing testosterone is bad for you. | ||
Your body has testosterone in it. | ||
It's not a foreign substance. | ||
Your body knows what to do with it. | ||
The problem with things that your body doesn't know what to do with is toxicity, liver toxicity. | ||
You know, there's a lot of issues with all sorts of different substances like EPO that cause strokes. | ||
Unnatural things. | ||
Like, when you take an EPO, your body's producing way more fucking red blood cells than it's supposed to. | ||
Your blood's like sludge. | ||
All sorts of issues with that. | ||
But testosterone? | ||
Your body knows what to do with it. | ||
It's in there naturally. | ||
EPO, though, they're talking about the bike riders wake up in the middle of the night because their blood's so thick. | ||
Yeah, I told you this. | ||
Yeah, they would wake up and ride their bike in the middle of the night. | ||
Yeah, that's a buddy of ours. | ||
How crazy is that? | ||
Because they had to get rid of the blood cells? | ||
What do you mean? | ||
The blood's so thick. | ||
The blood's so thick you have to wear yourself out and you have to do workouts and drink a lot of water in the middle of the night. | ||
They would set their alarm so they'd get up every few hours and work out. | ||
I heard a heart surgeon talk about one of the easiest things you can do. | ||
There are some studies that suggest that giving blood once a year actually is the best thing you can do to avoid stroke. | ||
And the reason women, they think, have less stroke and less heart disease, it might be because they bleed once a month. | ||
So what happens is you, I guess, your blood actually literally gets thinner. | ||
Man, that was some rationale for leeches back in the day. | ||
Well, no, but I mean, in fact, as this heart surgeon was talking about it, it was really fascinating. | ||
He goes, you know what you can do to increase your, I guess, lower your cholesterol and especially give blood? | ||
I don't know. | ||
Goddammit. | ||
Goddammit, Tony. | ||
How about Mercier? | ||
Stacked. | ||
Yeah, he looks very strong. | ||
Very strong. | ||
Powerful Easter bowling in the corner there. | ||
Yeah, Elliott, Christian Allen. | ||
Yeah, they're just having a hard time keeping this guy off of him. | ||
Yeah, man, he's just all over him. | ||
He wants nothing in the stand-up game with him. | ||
He's just pinning him and taking him down. | ||
Smart. | ||
Yeah, it's smart, though. | ||
There's my boyfriend, Christian Allen. | ||
It's gonna be weird when they come up with all these fucking genetic manipulations that they're working on right now. | ||
They think China's already got myostatin inhibitors in place for their athletes. | ||
Jesus, man. | ||
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Seriously? | |
Mm-hmm. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Damn. | ||
Yeah, they think they're already experimenting on it. | ||
They got someone locked up in a mountain somewhere and they got some fucking dude who's got triple muscle and is gonna live to be 190. That's awesome. | ||
That's awesome, by the way. | ||
I can't wait. | ||
That's what happened to those mice when they ran those tests on those myostatin inhibitors in mice. | ||
The mice became superhuman, or super mice. | ||
They got all this muscle on them, and they lived longer. | ||
And they don't degenerate. | ||
Sign me up. | ||
So their muscle is like double muscles. | ||
Sign me up right now. | ||
They'll take it right now. | ||
Hey, look at this. | ||
Sim's turning around. | ||
Look at this. | ||
He's about to get taken down again. | ||
How about a guillotine? | ||
How about a guillotine? | ||
A little wider there, fella. | ||
A little wider with that stance, please. | ||
There'll be a time when we choose bodies like cars. | ||
That's going to be a bummer. | ||
We just insert consciousness into whatever body we want. | ||
Every girl's going to look the same. | ||
There's going to be designer cars. | ||
Yeah, they'll always switch it up, though, you know? | ||
They'll come out with a new model, and that'll be hot for a while. | ||
What else can you do? | ||
It's not going to matter. | ||
How long, 500 years, where they could pull your consciousness out and put it into Tate's body? | ||
How long, 500 years? | ||
Well, we're going to be able to have chips. | ||
Less than that? | ||
We're going to be able to have chips, and you're going to be able to live your life, and then give me a chip at the end of the day, and I'm like, what'd you do today? | ||
You're like, watch it. | ||
Do it. | ||
Plug it into me, and I'll live the life of Eddie Bravo for a day. | ||
I'm like, bro, check out this chick I hooked up with. | ||
Play this. | ||
You should have watched it. | ||
You can sell your dreams, you know what I mean? | ||
Record your dreams, sell them, boom. | ||
Yeah, there's gonna be a lot of weird shit going on in the next 100, 200 years. | ||
There's one thing though with that novelty of like being able to choose your body or whatever it is, it's like one of the things I think that people appreciate, it's like, is hard work. | ||
Is people meriting what it is and like if there's no merit to it, what's the value of it? | ||
I need more, Kate! | ||
Forging character. | ||
That's old school, Kate. | ||
That's a spiritual crisis in a way. | ||
I mean, it's a thing because like outside of the physical realm, there's a whole entire other conversation to have with that. | ||
At what time do we get tired of the novelty for something with substance? | ||
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Right. | |
Our entire paradigm is built on that, on struggle. | ||
Yeah, the paradigm is going to shift. | ||
Doesn't substance come from who you are, though? | ||
Not your body, right? | ||
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If you could be a 12-year-old boy right now, would you be? | |
What if you identify as a 12-year-old boy? | ||
Can you still get into Chuck E. Cheese? | ||
You can identify as anybody now. | ||
You can identify as black. | ||
They caught a second guy pretending to be black. | ||
Did you see that guy who identified as being an amputee and thought that's what he was and then he cut off his arm? | ||
His hand didn't feel normal to him. | ||
You saw that on HBO, right? | ||
I did see that. | ||
It's called mental illness. | ||
It also flies in the face of all this stuff about like, oh, we're all born equal. | ||
No, we're not. | ||
There's some different shit out there. | ||
It's stupid. | ||
It's stupid to say that we're born equal. | ||
It's nonsense. | ||
No, we don't all start at the same starting line. | ||
Gender is a social construct, man. | ||
It's a social construct. | ||
No, it's not. | ||
No, we're all different as fuck. | ||
There's a broad spectrum of human beings. | ||
And some of us have hands, and some of us don't want hands. | ||
Well, a lot of it, like the amputee you're talking about, a lot of it's mental disease, right? | ||
So what do you do with those guys? | ||
Like I was talking with Brian, how about child molesters? | ||
Yes, that's what I was going to say to you. | ||
They're mentally fucked up, man. | ||
The subway guy. | ||
You're going to get a footlong, son. | ||
You're going to get a footlong now in jail. | ||
Please don't say that again. | ||
Jared, the subway guy? | ||
That was the cover of New York Daily News. | ||
Was it really? | ||
Yes. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Goddamn it. | ||
There was what? | ||
Cover of New York Daily News. | ||
Expect a footlong in jail. | ||
Is that true? | ||
Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
But I think... | ||
He's super screwed. | ||
He's super screwed. | ||
But there was an article recently that was talking about people that have a natural, like, inclination towards pedophilia. | ||
And that it's something that is hardwired into their brain. | ||
And they were trying to make this argument along those same lines as someone being transgender. | ||
And I was like, whoa, this is a fucking very tricky argument. | ||
It is. | ||
Because if you start giving people the green light to be pedophiles in any way, shape, or form, there's a lot of people going to jump on that. | ||
That's not the debate. | ||
No, that's not the debate. | ||
No, it's not the debate. | ||
I'm not saying it's a debate. | ||
I'm talking about the science behind it. | ||
The science behind it is... | ||
It raises questions that they were born. | ||
Look, there's no science behind transgender, either. | ||
It's a social issue, right? | ||
There's no science where people are saying people are absolutely born a woman trapped in a man's body, but socially we are all accepting that now. | ||
The bigger question becomes this. | ||
If you can prove that it's neurological, then what it classifies as is disability. | ||
Now, we all agree we don't want those people near children, but the question becomes twofold. | ||
All of us, before punishment, the most important thing is that they don't molest children. | ||
That's what we want to stop them from doing. | ||
So the question becomes, do you give them safe haven to talk about it, go get help, figure out how to cure it, whatever it might be? | ||
You have to trust them deeply. | ||
You have to trust them deeply to not do anything about it, not to act on their urges. | ||
It's like trusting a guy who lives in an island of hot chicks to not fuck. | ||
No, no, you keep them very far away from children. | ||
At this point, that means jail. | ||
But how do you do that? | ||
So are you going to take them in jail if they have a certain gene, or are you going to wait until they act? | ||
That's the question. | ||
So most important is if they do find it's neurological, maybe there's a way to cure that or block the gene eventually. | ||
But before that... | ||
I don't think it's a genetic thing. | ||
Well, what they find is it might very well be... | ||
Most pedophiles, in a strange way, are left-handed. | ||
Why? | ||
We don't know. | ||
But for the most part, there is a lot of evidence that suggests it could be neurological. | ||
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It's not something in their childhood? | |
Maybe, in some cases. | ||
Yeah, there's a lot of different reasons. | ||
There's a lot that goes into it, man. | ||
But as we learn more about brain science, you're just finding more and more that sometimes this is a form of, quote-unquote, brain damage or mental illness or whatever. | ||
Well, the brain doesn't come out perfect every time. | ||
No. | ||
Sims is on top here, landing some fucking hammers, man. | ||
These are legit shots. | ||
Big punches. | ||
He hits hard, man. | ||
He hits fucking hard in close quarters. | ||
That's one thing about strikers. | ||
You see that there's a big difference in what they can generate, the amount of power they can in short distances with ground and pound. | ||
You see that with Krokop in that Gonzaga fight? | ||
Oh, my God. | ||
Those elbows inside the guard? | ||
It's because Krokop is a legit striker. | ||
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I agree. | |
And you're seeing this here with Sims. | ||
In close quarters. | ||
He's fucking Mercier up. | ||
The same with Tony Ferguson or little John Dodson, man. | ||
They generate power in, like, inches. | ||
Yeah, they make it count. | ||
Oh, speaking of which, Ferguson's gonna fight Khabib. | ||
That's a fight. | ||
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Khabib. | |
That is a motherfucking fight. | ||
I don't know. | ||
I do not know, but I love it. | ||
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I love that fight. | |
I also love that fight. | ||
That's a great, especially when you see what Ferguson's been fucking doing to people lately. | ||
It's going to be interesting to see Nygamurdov because he's been hurt for a grip. | ||
Nygamurdov. | ||
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What did you call me? | |
Khabib. | ||
Khabib Nygamurdov. | ||
It's going to be interesting to see him because he had so much time off. | ||
He's been hurt. | ||
And his knee's jacked. | ||
It's a tough fight. | ||
I don't think his knee's 100%. | ||
I don't think it can be. | ||
It's a tough fight. | ||
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Oh! | |
Oh boy. | ||
Oh boy. | ||
It's a hap. | ||
Oh boy. | ||
Eddie, has he got it? | ||
Eddie? | ||
No. | ||
He's trying. | ||
He doesn't seem to be struggling. | ||
He's sideways here. | ||
Triangle? | ||
Come on, it's right there. | ||
Triangle! | ||
Triangle! | ||
You know, when a guy goes against a guy who's just better than him at Jiu Jitsu, there's a certain amount of recognition that the guy's better and you don't try for certain shit. | ||
Like you get big brothered a little bit or something. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Almost too much respect. | ||
But then you go for a sub and you're like, fuck, I'm not really going to get this. | ||
You don't believe in it. | ||
Ultimate Fighter, September 9th, Aldo and my boy, Uriah Faber. | ||
Or McGregor, rather. | ||
I don't know about the Ultimate Fighter format. | ||
I don't know about that format. | ||
Well, they're banking on Conor bringing the views now, right? | ||
Like, they're doing whatever they can to get the views back up. | ||
I don't know, man. | ||
You just gotta switch it up. | ||
If I was Conor, I wouldn't be into doing it. | ||
Me neither. | ||
I think it hurts his brand. | ||
Does that mean he's gonna fight Uriah? | ||
No. | ||
It could possibly happen. | ||
Listen, let me tell you something right now. | ||
If Aldo gets hurt again, they easily could have that fight. | ||
They easily could have Uriah Faber vs. | ||
Conor. | ||
Just super fight style. | ||
Easily. | ||
It's a great backup, for sure, if Aldo gets hurt. | ||
Especially if they can somehow generate some respectable ratings. | ||
How is Aldo doing, dude? | ||
Does anybody know? | ||
Who knows. | ||
Hopefully good. | ||
Why do you think he's gonna get hurt again? | ||
He could easily get hurt again. | ||
He's pulled out of multiple fights. | ||
Yeah, and there's, you know, depending on what is actually going on when it comes to PEDs over there, who knows? | ||
Who knows? | ||
I mean, there's so much speculation. | ||
This coach had a press conference. | ||
I know. | ||
About PEDs. | ||
And about Brennan. | ||
We would be... | ||
He said Brennan should wash his mouth out. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Like, hey guys, Brennan likes Brazilians. | ||
Take it easy. | ||
We're not insulting Brazilians. | ||
That's not obvious you're doing shit at all. | ||
Well, there's without a doubt a certain amount of people that have been on the PEDs. | ||
I think it's a legit focus of discussion. | ||
I just do. | ||
I'm not going to not talk about it. | ||
I'm not going to not talk about it as a speculation. | ||
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There's not. | |
It's legit. | ||
And especially after talking to Nowitzki and talking to many, many, many, many, many fighters and managers and trainers. | ||
They work. | ||
Of course they work. | ||
And here's the other thing. | ||
What Tim Kennedy said to you. | ||
He's like, have you been tested? | ||
I haven't been tested. | ||
You know, that. | ||
Like, everyone's being tested. | ||
Everyone's being tested. | ||
Really? | ||
He's like, who's been tested? | ||
Are you being tested? | ||
Tim got, I think he got tested yesterday or the day before. | ||
No, I asked him if that was UFC. It wasn't UFC. Really? | ||
Who tested him? | ||
Because Tim had piss bottles up and he was like... | ||
But that was for the Army. | ||
No, because he put that out and goes, UFC still hasn't tested me. | ||
He goes, I'm getting tested now. | ||
I think the military tests them all the time. | ||
And he goes, the UFC still hasn't tested me. | ||
Jesus Christ. | ||
And the question is, too, not even who's currently on steroids, but who's on the live roster that's moving that has been? | ||
There's guys that are cycling in and out all the time, and really I think the question Eddie asked about who's not? | ||
How many guys aren't? | ||
Who's never done that that's signed under that contract that gets that check? | ||
Yeah, that was that weird moment in the Anderson Silva press conference where they said, is this the first time you've ever been tested at a competition? | ||
And he goes, yes. | ||
And they're like, fuck, the one time they pop you. | ||
The only time you've ever been tested at a competition they pop you. | ||
But didn't he take Viagra or something? | ||
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Allegedly. | |
That's what he says. | ||
There's more than one story. | ||
Bas Rutten was going over it and he said that he changed his story three times. | ||
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What happens? | |
You take Viagra, you test positive? | ||
Is that what happens? | ||
Let's not talk over each other. | ||
It elevates testosterone? | ||
Is that what Viagra does? | ||
No. | ||
It has nothing to do with it. | ||
What did you say, Viagra? | ||
Hold on. | ||
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Sorry. | |
But Viagra is a performance enhancing drug and it is illegal. | ||
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Correct. | |
Because Viagra actually does enhance your body. | ||
It's like a very extreme version of nitric oxide. | ||
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Phasodilator, yeah. | |
Blood flow, right? | ||
So it really does benefit you in endurance. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Endurance athletes take Viagra. | ||
I've trained on it before. | ||
I did jujitsu. | ||
I took a Cialis and did jujitsu to see what it was like. | ||
You noticed the difference? | ||
Yeah. | ||
It benefits you. | ||
But no more so than Shroom Tech. | ||
Don't ever do that again. | ||
Don't tell anybody! | ||
What's the 10th planet secret? | ||
You don't get hard unless you're excited. | ||
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He takes your back and he's like, that's exactly what you think it is, motherfucker. | |
Is that a steel cup? | ||
You just say, is that? | ||
Shut up. | ||
Nope, that's my dick. | ||
I own you. | ||
Steel cups are brutal, man. | ||
And what could you do if you got the guy's back with your hooks in? | ||
Just find a happy space in the wall and stare at it until he's done. | ||
Just press down on his taint. | ||
Just tap right away? | ||
No, tap. | ||
Don't be silly. | ||
Don't be impolite. | ||
Just realize that there's a pecking order and he's the alpha. | ||
It's amazing to me that those metal cups are not illegal in the UFC. Well, if you kick one, you break your foot. | ||
To train with guys with cups on is a drag. | ||
That's a crummy thing to do. | ||
For sure. | ||
Because it hurts, you mean? | ||
Yeah. | ||
It's painful. | ||
It's a fulcrum point for arm bars. | ||
Break people's arms with it. | ||
Even if you're a guy's on top and half guard and grinding. | ||
That's a thing, man. | ||
That's a not comfortable thing. | ||
You know who did it the first time? | ||
You remember Amir Renovati? | ||
Amir Renovati mounted me once and he put the grapevines in and he had a... | ||
I go, what the fuck is that? | ||
He goes, it's a tie cup, bro. | ||
A steel tie cup. | ||
I go, ow! | ||
What the fuck, man? | ||
He was like, no, it was mounting me. | ||
He was pressing it down on my... | ||
But back in the day, those were the only guys. | ||
When you were training and there's a new guy, there are always kickboxers or boxers that came in that wanted to try jiu-jitsu. | ||
Those were the only guys that wore a cup. | ||
There was never really grappling dudes. | ||
I never really knew jiu-jitsu guys that would wear cups. | ||
Some do. | ||
But now, back then, it was guys that came in from kickboxing. | ||
The way I train is I put shorts on, I get my shoes on, and I put my cup on. | ||
That's the same way they would come onto the mats. | ||
I'm amazing. | ||
How many guys fight and they have like cups that are loose in their jockstrap. | ||
They have regular old cups. | ||
Like you guys are out of your fucking mind. | ||
Like plastic cups? | ||
That's what I wore. | ||
Yeah, those shitty ones. | ||
I'm wearing a cup right now. | ||
Those diamond MMA cups are so goddamn good. | ||
You'd have to be fucking crazy to wear anything else other than a tie cup. | ||
Other than a tie cup with the rope. | ||
I just didn't give a fuck. | ||
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You'd have to be crazy. | |
I never wore one in football. | ||
It's whatever, man. | ||
You let that fucking three-piece set, that baby bird just flop around. | ||
Good job, guys. | ||
You let that little nub free. | ||
I don't give a shit. | ||
Did you always wear one, Eddie? | ||
I never wear a cup. | ||
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No. | |
He wears a holster. | ||
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Oh! | |
Oh, guys! | ||
Sorry. | ||
I would only wear one like a week or two weeks before a fight to get used to it because I was going to wear it at the fight. | ||
But I would never, never, ever wear it at training or anything. | ||
I never wore it at training once until I was rolling with Einstein. | ||
He was trying to pass my guard and he shoved his knee right into my dick. | ||
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Yes. | |
And I got out of the class, and I took my jockstrap off, and it was filled with blood. | ||
And blood was coming out of my dick. | ||
He smashed my dick. | ||
Like, it smashed. | ||
And I was trying to figure out if I should go to the hospital. | ||
And I figured, well, if it was my nose when I go to the hospital, no. | ||
So I said, all right, let me just go home and see. | ||
So I was feeling it. | ||
It didn't hurt. | ||
So I said, let me see if I could get it hard. | ||
So I got hard, and I jerked off. | ||
I jerked off, and it came out like one of those chickens. | ||
You ever get a chicken that's got an embryo in it? | ||
It's all bloody and all fucked up. | ||
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Pictures? | |
You got any photos? | ||
No. | ||
So I pissed and came blood for three or four days, but it never hurt. | ||
I would have gone right to the doctor. | ||
Me too. | ||
I kind of feel like under that scrutiny of, hmm, if it were my nose, my cock is so much more important than my nose. | ||
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You say that, but if you don't have a nose, good luck using your cock. | |
I agree. | ||
If your nose is missing, no one's gonna suck your dick. | ||
This fucking Skeletor dude with his giant dick, get out of here. | ||
Did he smash your balls or the trunk? | ||
Right into my dick hole. | ||
Big difference. | ||
That's happened before. | ||
You know, it's that pass where someone's trying to slice the knee through, and he just made a mistake. | ||
It stings. | ||
Slammed into my dick. | ||
It was only one time it happened after who knows how many years of training, but that was it for me, dog. | ||
Thank God you weren't on Cialis. | ||
That would have been hard. | ||
That's what I'm saying. | ||
Well, I probably would have absorbed it better. | ||
Or rip that shit off. | ||
Like, you ever have a girl riding you and then slips out and then lands on it? | ||
Jesus. | ||
I don't, because mine is too long. | ||
I got his dick broken. | ||
How about that homeboy? | ||
Remember homeboy who got his dick broken? | ||
I talked to him. | ||
He was in a wheelchair. | ||
I talked to that guy in a wheelchair after it happened, and he told me exactly what happened and how his dick broke in half from a girl riding him. | ||
Oh, that's... | ||
That's a reckless girl. | ||
He was in a wheelchair. | ||
His dick broke. | ||
Some real freaks out there. | ||
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Sex. | |
Blood everywhere. | ||
Dick broke. | ||
The guy's an MMA fighter. | ||
I know a guy who got kicked in the nuts from fighting, and then his testosterone went, got really low, later on in his life. | ||
And the doctor said, it's probably because, because one ball was bigger than the other, because it never swelled and never went down. | ||
The doctor said, you injured your nuts fighting, and that's why, that's probably why your testosterone... | ||
There was one of the guys who was fighting for the UFC who was... | ||
Training, and he went to a spar with a buddy, and he just didn't bother putting his cup on because we're just gonna move around light. | ||
Got kicked in the balls, lost his ball. | ||
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Jesus. | |
Never, never, never see him again. | ||
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Because he didn't go to the doctor? | |
No, he went, his ball exploded. | ||
He got kicked in the ball, and he was just like, pfft, dying, no more ball. | ||
You get surgery, you just leave it. | ||
What are you gonna do? | ||
You get surgery. | ||
You gotta reabsorb. | ||
You just do, you take a cheesecloth, you wrap it up. | ||
Tighten it down. | ||
No, it's nothing. | ||
It's like they removed it. | ||
It exploded. | ||
I finally figured out... | ||
You see those, like, spectacles where they have some guy who gets kicked in the nuts, like, really hard, like a kung fu guy who just stands out? | ||
Well, I figured out what he's doing, because occasionally when I'm having sex, like, one ball will find a hiding place. | ||
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Yep. | |
Under the cartilage. | ||
Where the hernia is. | ||
And then you just plop it out. | ||
But they just must do that. | ||
They just go backstage and they just hide their balls above the bone. | ||
Fight Science did a study on it and they said that actually... | ||
Fight Science is not science. | ||
Let's just be honest about that. | ||
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But they said that their balls actually develop calcium deposits. | |
Their balls develop calcium deposits. | ||
So their balls actually get super hard from trauma. | ||
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Come on. | |
I feel like Red Band's not even here, and I feel like, oh, Brian. | ||
You know what I mean? | ||
A little bit. | ||
I'm telling you. | ||
I realize. | ||
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We need a highlight reel of the ultimate ball shots. | |
Arlovsky versus Mir. | ||
They're using Arlovsky from a decade ago. | ||
Look at this fight. | ||
I'll tell you what, that Frank Mir-Todd Duffy fight was crazy. | ||
Insane. | ||
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Crazy. | |
That was a crazy round. | ||
How about Bigfoot? | ||
Couldn't take a punch at all, then fights Soapoleli and he's back. | ||
Can take a punch, no problem. | ||
Bro, I don't like that rematch with Bigfoot-Mark Hunt. | ||
That's a legendary fight, and now you gotta... | ||
I don't like it, man. | ||
Doesn't matter. | ||
It doesn't take away from that fight. | ||
I'm sorry, but I thought Andrzejewski was fighting for the title. | ||
Why? | ||
No, Kane is. | ||
I don't know. | ||
I thought that was the rumor. | ||
No, Kane. | ||
I think it was going to either be Dos Anjos or Dos Santos, rather. | ||
I don't know why they don't do Dos Santos-Overeem. | ||
Overeem's begging for it. | ||
Yeah, they are doing that. | ||
That's the fight. | ||
But Arlovsky, god damn, look at this. | ||
When he stopped Travis Brown, god damn he's back. | ||
He's a vicious fucking striker. | ||
You know, the guy had some confidence problems, he got KO'd a bunch of times, but at the end of the day, that guy is a vicious fucking striker. | ||
How about for him sticking through it? | ||
Yeah. | ||
What did he get? | ||
Knockout four in a row? | ||
Many times. | ||
Look at him now. | ||
Well, watch this fight with Karatanov in Strikeforce. | ||
That's a tough fight to watch, man. | ||
You watch that fight and you're like, this fight's over. | ||
Yes. | ||
This is over. | ||
It is Todd Duffy. | ||
Goddamn, son. | ||
Those are both similar fights. | ||
Mir, Duffy, and Orofsky, Travis Brown. | ||
Yeah, in a lot of ways, right? | ||
Yeah, just wild. | ||
Except the end. | ||
Mirrors was so definitive. | ||
I mean, Mirrors, there was no coming back from that. | ||
I mean, they could have counted to a hundred. | ||
How about Mare too, man? | ||
Mare's another guy just stuck with it, man. | ||
Look at him. | ||
Yeah, yeah, you just got to think about just a few years ago. | ||
He was like, what is he, one out of his last six? | ||
How about when Josh Barnett crushed him just like two years ago? | ||
Josh Barnett crushed him two years ago, and now he's on the verge of a title shot. | ||
Chad Lapreze, Francisco Trinaldo. | ||
Trinaldo fought 185 at Ultimate Fighter in Brazil, and now he's 155. Hmm. | ||
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Crazy. | |
Chad Lapreet is coming out with a cross on. | ||
The IV thing doesn't start to October, correct? | ||
Exactly. | ||
That's why this December fight with Aldo is going to be real problematic for Mr. McGregor. | ||
Because Mr. McGregor cuts a fuckload of weight. | ||
So does Aldo, though. | ||
Yep. | ||
Both guys do. | ||
They both look like shit. | ||
They just got to start cutting early. | ||
So does Weidman, though. | ||
Weidman cuts a shitload of weight. | ||
Well, you know, that's the conversation that I had with... | ||
Nowitzki, I was like, they have to add weight classes. | ||
They have to. | ||
But the UFC doesn't want to add weight classes because they think it waters down the sport. | ||
Yeah, I'm not a fan of that. | ||
I think there's enough weight classes. | ||
Leave it the way they are. | ||
Deal with it. | ||
But there's not. | ||
There's giant jumps. | ||
There's a 20-pound jump. | ||
It does matter. | ||
185 to 205 is a huge jump. | ||
That's fine. | ||
Guys make nine jumps anyway, though. | ||
They're still doing it. | ||
You guys transcend three weight classes. | ||
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But you're not fighting. | |
If you were fighting, you wouldn't be fine with it. | ||
No, I know, maybe for the fighters it could be better, but for the sport, we have enough weight classes. | ||
No, I'm with Joe, man, because a lot of these guys, look at heavyweight, 206 or 265, it's fucking insane! | ||
That's a nice problem. | ||
I like it. | ||
No, it's not. | ||
It's interesting. | ||
As a fighter, it's not cool, man. | ||
As a fighter, no. | ||
As an audience member, I'm not talking about the fighters, I'm talking about spectators. | ||
I like that. | ||
Yeah, it's too much already. | ||
We don't need more. | ||
You do, though, because what about a guy like Chris Weidman? | ||
He's a bad motherfucker, right? | ||
He's a champion right now. | ||
He's doing great. | ||
He walks, what, 220? | ||
He's doing great. | ||
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215? | |
He's a big boy. | ||
He's a big boy. | ||
He's killing himself to get 85. He needs to, in between camps, maybe not blow up as much. | ||
You don't understand, he's not blowing up. | ||
He's dehydrating. | ||
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He's naturally. | |
He fights at 185? | ||
Yes. | ||
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Then he should fight 205. What if he fought at 200? | |
He's a champ at 185. What if his optimal weight's 200? | ||
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Huh? | |
What if his optimal weight to perform's at 200? | ||
I like the weight classes the way they are. | ||
I don't want any more. | ||
You don't find a problem. | ||
You're not using any logic. | ||
You're just saying you like it. | ||
The heavyweight class, that argument, that is ridiculous. | ||
Especially when the heavyweights are so poor, there's six really great heavyweights, and then the rest is just hard to get guys that are that big that are really moving the envelope like that. | ||
And a lot of those guys are 205ers easy. | ||
Easy 205-ers. | ||
And so if you had a weight class that started at 230 that was reasonable, to have a guy that's like a Frank Mirsai that's not super huge and have a guy fight a 300-pound man on the day, whoa! | ||
To Joe's point, do you care if Conor McGregor and Aldo fought at 150? | ||
160? | ||
Do any of us give a fuck in here? | ||
I don't care. | ||
I want to see the best fighter at the best weight. | ||
Then you need more weight classes. | ||
That's what I mean. | ||
I'd rather see Aldo, if Aldo fights better and faster and longer and with more intensity at 155, I'd rather see that. | ||
I think the weight class is the way they are. | ||
Force fights more instead of going, well, I'm in this weight class and I'm in this weight class. | ||
Well, you could see more super fights where people meet in the middle for a belt. | ||
That's what it should be. | ||
Belts are bullshit. | ||
Who cares? | ||
It's the best fighters or the best fighters. | ||
We all know who the best fighters are, right? | ||
Have the best fighters fight the best guys. | ||
When you beat the best guys, you're the best fighter. | ||
This idea of the champion, I just think at a certain point in time, who cares? | ||
If Aldo has the belt, look, McGregor has, let's be honest, McGregor has an illegitimate belt. | ||
Sure. | ||
Made up. | ||
It's a made-up belt. | ||
I mean, we call it the interim belt, but Aldo defended his title a year ago. | ||
Stripping a guy because he can't get through a camp without getting injured is a part of MMA. It's always been a part of MMA. But because of the marketing, because of the hype behind it, because of the huge event, the enormity, the economics of the event, they decide to make it an interim fight. | ||
So he's got a title. | ||
Aldo's got a title. | ||
They both have titles. | ||
So they're fighting for the undisputed title. | ||
So it becomes this big thing that they have to get on a scale and they have to have a certain amount of mass in their body and then they rehydrate like crazy and do their best to get back up to whatever the fuck they really are. | ||
Wouldn't it be better if they just fought? | ||
We know how big Conor is. | ||
We know how big Aldo is. | ||
Let's go fight, guys. | ||
The other thing that would be cool, if you didn't have belts like that, or you had a mitigated value to them, you could have catch fights for everybody. | ||
You could go, okay, Jon Jones, what do you want to fight Weidman at? | ||
Or whatever. | ||
You could do any of that stuff with every single fight, and then it would be real match-ups. | ||
I also feel it adds another dimension. | ||
So fighting, the biggest thing is that it does become, if you're sucking inordinate amounts of weight, part of being a champion then has to be how good is your nutrition program, how good is your weight loss program, and that becomes a huge part of fighting when it probably shouldn't. | ||
What about more brain trauma? | ||
Correct. | ||
Because homeboy Jeff Novitski was saying that it takes 72 hours to rehydrate your brain. | ||
So even with IVs. | ||
No belts. | ||
You guys are saying no belts. | ||
Just catch weight fights. | ||
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No, no. | |
I want belts, but let's get more divisions. | ||
So guys aren't killing themselves to make these weights. | ||
You just want to see the best athlete. | ||
I think the UFC is amazing and they're doing an amazing job to add this and add that. | ||
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I don't know. | |
It'd be funny if you took your mask off and you weren't Eddie and you were actually Dana. | ||
There's so much good shit happening in the UFC, too much, that you can't even keep track of it to add more weight and then take away the belts? | ||
I think this is an illogical discussion. | ||
It's not that they're not doing a great job. | ||
They're saying all these reasons why more weight classes would be beneficial and not cutting weight would be beneficial. | ||
And you're like, everything's great! | ||
It's a crazy way of looking at things. | ||
Maybe he's super positive. | ||
Call Dana. | ||
He might be super positive. | ||
Give me one of those beers. | ||
It's a good beer, by the way. | ||
Hey, you know what? | ||
I appreciate... | ||
Are you part of the company? | ||
Yeah. | ||
Nice. | ||
It would be safer and it'd be easier. | ||
It'd be better for the fire. | ||
We'd get better performances if they weren't killing themselves. | ||
Nuevo Star. | ||
Nuevo. | ||
That's the name of the company? | ||
Trying to get me in trouble again, man. | ||
There he goes. | ||
Okay, what do we got here? | ||
I love what's going on. | ||
Chad LaPreece. | ||
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It's perfect. | |
And... | ||
Screwy-ass, fucked-up judges and all that shit. | ||
You never know who's gonna win. | ||
Fuck yeah. | ||
It adds to the excitement. | ||
I love that shit. | ||
Bro, Adelaide Berg, give me more. | ||
And he's happy with what he has, okay guys? | ||
Back off. | ||
I'm appreciative. | ||
I love the belts and all that shit. | ||
I love the fact that if you're a champion and... | ||
Knowing that if you don't take this fight, if you try to back off for whatever reason, maybe you fake an injury, maybe you don't fake an injury, maybe you don't want to get busted with steroids. | ||
Whatever it is, I think it's good for them to know that, hey, if you fuck around, we're going to strip that fucking belt. | ||
I like that. | ||
Like, oh, I'm not gonna fight. | ||
Oh, I hurt my ankle. | ||
Oh, I hurt my shoulder. | ||
You know what I mean? | ||
You never know. | ||
It's nice to know that you can't do that shit anytime you want. | ||
We're gonna take your fucking belt, and we're gonna make you guys fight. | ||
That's ridiculous. | ||
Because if they're the champion, and the champion gets hurt in training, if they are clean, and they actually do get hurt, and they can't fight, you're just gonna take their belt? | ||
That's crazy. | ||
It adds excitement. | ||
No. | ||
I like it. | ||
There's no stability. | ||
I like it. | ||
You're talking crazy. | ||
Oh, come on. | ||
You guys start a fighter's union. | ||
You're a troublemaker. | ||
He's a troublemaker, man. | ||
He's kind of a positive troublemaker. | ||
Hey, listen. | ||
I love what's going on. | ||
I love this shit. | ||
And you love it, too. | ||
We're having a fucking podcast because of this shit. | ||
You're not even watching the fights. | ||
I'm watching right here. | ||
He's watching me. | ||
He's watching me, man. | ||
Who's winning? | ||
Who's fighting is a better question for you. | ||
Is that an American black guy or is that a Brazilian black guy? | ||
Brazilian, man. | ||
Okay, I don't know. | ||
It's hard to tell. | ||
Oh, the breeze with a nice right hand. | ||
Holy shit. | ||
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He's throwing. | |
He's no joke. | ||
This kid would be a handful in the ring. | ||
You know what I mean, guys? | ||
They got the jerseys color-coded, by the way, Eddie, so that'll give you a little heads up. | ||
Green on the shorts means Brazil. | ||
Do they make one guy wear... | ||
Oh, really? | ||
Yeah, green on the shorts. | ||
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I don't like that. | |
They should change that. | ||
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They should make them all wear the same shorts. | |
By the way. | ||
Has anybody worn, like, have you ever seen someone wearing, like, those Reebok fighter kits? | ||
Have you ever worn anybody in the street? | ||
Haven't seen one. | ||
I got the pants when I was in Andrew Craig's. | ||
Come on, man. | ||
No one's buying that shit. | ||
You had to wear them? | ||
Oh, yeah, they had them all laid out in a locker. | ||
Wow. | ||
They make you wear a sneaker? | ||
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Oh! | |
Damn, I missed it. | ||
Damn! | ||
Did they make you wear sneakers, too? | ||
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100%. | |
Socks, too. | ||
Everything? | ||
Only my underwear was socks. | ||
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Wow. | |
Oh, he pulled guard. | ||
The only kid I've ever seen was at Aubrey Marcus' house. | ||
It was hanging in your closet, and I was like, oh, cool. | ||
I saved my shit from the Ben Saunders fight. | ||
It's all bloody. | ||
I saved that shit. | ||
I'll never wear it. | ||
I'm gonna frame it. | ||
It'd be brutal if they made you give it up and then they sold it. | ||
Sign it and sell it. | ||
They sell it at eBay. | ||
Worn kits. | ||
Oh, look at this. | ||
Hey, that's too hard. | ||
That's too hard. | ||
It's gonna ruin his brain. | ||
Yeah, this one's over. | ||
This is definitely gonna ruin his brain. | ||
All these count. | ||
All these count. | ||
What about the downward elbow right there? | ||
What happens then? | ||
Fernando's a bad motherfucker. | ||
Those aren't that hard. | ||
They'll stop it, though. | ||
That's it, bitch. | ||
Damn. | ||
Wow. | ||
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Nice. | |
Holy shit. | ||
Francisco Trinaldo. | ||
Where is Saskatoon, by the way? | ||
Saskatoon is Saskatchewan, huh? | ||
Yeah, I think it's the capital of Saskatchewan. | ||
Is that where this is at? | ||
I think. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Hey, Chris Beal already fought, right? | ||
Saskatoon. | ||
What happened? | ||
Chris Beal fought? | ||
Is that what you said? | ||
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Yes. | |
He's the black guy, right? | ||
Yes. | ||
Man, I just came from Gracie Worlds with Tate. | ||
I didn't keep track of the prelims. | ||
Man, I'm sad that Sam Stout got killed in the first round. | ||
Me too, man. | ||
That bumps me out. | ||
What happened to Chris Beal? | ||
I'm trying to find out right now. | ||
Prelim results... | ||
Fuck, man. | ||
Super bummer for Sam Stout, man. | ||
Sam retired. | ||
He retired in the octagon after the fight. | ||
Um, man. | ||
Uh, do-do-do-do-do. | ||
Arontes beat JoBoi. | ||
Tapped him out. | ||
Wait, Chris Beal lost? | ||
Uh, no. | ||
JoBoi is not Chris Beal. | ||
I thought he said JoBoi. | ||
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Hold on. | |
I thought he said he beat JoBoi. | ||
I was watching Chris Beal. | ||
I think he won a decision, I think. | ||
I'll tell you right now. | ||
Um... | ||
No, Beal lost. | ||
In a decision joke? | ||
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Yeah. | |
Yeah, I wasn't watching close. | ||
29 was a split decision. | ||
It was a close fight. | ||
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Damn. | |
Yeah. | ||
Oh, no, no. | ||
It wasn't a split decision. | ||
29, 28, 29, 28, 27, 30 for the Greek gentleman. | ||
You trained with him, Eddie? | ||
Yeah, and he's been coming out. | ||
Okay. | ||
He's a bad motherfucker, Chris Beale. | ||
Yeah, hell yeah he is, dude. | ||
Dude, Sam Stout, though, that's heartbreaking, man. | ||
You guys know him? | ||
He's such a good dude. | ||
He just can't take a shot anymore. | ||
Man, he's a good dude. | ||
He's been doing it forever. | ||
We've seen it so many times. | ||
Guys that have an iron chin, and then all of a sudden, they reach a certain point, they can't take it anymore. | ||
And a lighter guy. | ||
A guy that's always cut a lot of weight. | ||
You know, like a real legend, but always, always cut a lot of weight. | ||
Yep. | ||
Man, that stuff's real. | ||
It stays with you. | ||
And then the training. | ||
You know, like, you always train, always being hit. | ||
There's never a rest. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Yeah, it was interesting. | ||
You guys watch Ultimate Insider, the John Anik show? | ||
Good show. | ||
And they had Rashad on. | ||
Rashad was talking about how he used to train and how he trains now. | ||
And they used to think that you had to beat yourself up so that, you know, you could be able to fight. | ||
And he's like, no, that doesn't really work. | ||
He's like, it's a good theory. | ||
It's good in theory, but in actual practice, you just can't do that. | ||
I think the thing is, I mean, the smart way, I think that there's only a few guys that are doing it, and I think Ronda probably does it, but the only good thing about sparring a lot is that it's not like you're staying sharp. | ||
I think you're just learning you're tough, and you learn you can withstand stuff. | ||
You're not getting better, but to hit mitts, to work on timing, all that stuff, I think after the first couple, three years of your fight, you don't need to spar ever. | ||
What was Kenny doing? | ||
You just don't. | ||
Yeah, Tim Kennedy, we were talking about, and he goes, oh, I don't spar at all. | ||
He goes, what I need to know, I can take a shot? | ||
Because I've been fighting for how long? | ||
Because I don't spar at all. | ||
He goes, the only time we go live is when I'm inside the octagon. | ||
And I've heard this from a number of fighters. | ||
And there's a trend in NFL, too, and college. | ||
There's a lot of college teams. | ||
They do not hit anymore. | ||
There's no more live practice. | ||
These are top, top teams. | ||
Don't you pay a price, though, when you're going full and distance and, like, I don't know. | ||
It doesn't make a difference in speed, distance, and defense. | ||
Well, when you've been doing it for that long, do you really, you know what I'm saying? | ||
I don't know. | ||
And you're hitting targets. | ||
You've got a guy hitting mitts. | ||
It's just like hitting somebody in the face. | ||
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Right. | |
You know, your footwork is the same. | ||
You know, the guys that are holding mitts for these guys on the top are the fucking finest fighters in the world that are now holding mitts for guys. | ||
I mean, you look at, like, a Bang Ludwig or a Mike Winklejohn that's holding mitts, a Brandon Gibson. | ||
It's like, those guys are... | ||
Fucking killers. | ||
Don't get it twisted. | ||
I heard Winklejohn has some serious power. | ||
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Oh! | |
He is so frightening. | ||
I'd go into the gym and he'd be in, and it'd be early in the morning and to hold knits and like, and I'd hear whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop. | ||
Like just somebody beating the fuck out of a bag. | ||
And it's just him back there. | ||
It's dark. | ||
It's so fucking eerie. | ||
And just a bag taking a beating. | ||
He was a world champ, right? | ||
A world champ. | ||
Multiple times. | ||
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Kickboxing. | |
Kickboxer. | ||
Bad, bad, bad dude. | ||
Like, compare him to somebody power-wise, like a Melvin? | ||
Melvin Manhoof? | ||
What kind of power has he got? | ||
I don't know. | ||
I heard he's ridiculous. | ||
I heard his kicks have ridiculous power. | ||
You're looking at him and I go, what's your workout? | ||
What are you doing on the bag? | ||
He goes, I'm doing nine minute rounds and it's just non-stop. | ||
It's like It's like the cadence is fucking crazy How big is he? | ||
Is he a big guy? | ||
Was he a heavyweight? | ||
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185, 190. He's probably not even that big. | |
But I just keep hearing from people. | ||
They go, dude, you need to see that guy kick the bag. | ||
They say he has ridiculous power. | ||
Such a good dude. | ||
The work ethic is amazing. | ||
He's one of the toughest, kindest, most gracious dudes ever. | ||
Helps everybody. | ||
Well, he's the one training Holly Holmes, right? | ||
Yeah, he's Holly Holmes. | ||
I mean, he's been Holly's coach for ages. | ||
You good on here, Jamie? | ||
Since she was a boxer. | ||
Let's try not to talk over each other, though, because we've got a lot of mics going on. | ||
We've got five, seven mics. | ||
Yeah, I don't know, man. | ||
The Holly Holm fight is not as intriguing to me as Amanda Nunes would be. | ||
I would just like to see Holly get maybe another one or two warm-ups, because we've seen her in the octagon, and she's just not putting it together yet to get to that level of Ronda. | ||
And her big issue is the grappling, you know? | ||
That's a huge issue. | ||
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With Ronda? | |
Yes. | ||
She's very patient, too. | ||
That's not really going to work against Ronda. | ||
Ronda's going to come right after her. | ||
She won't have time to be patient. | ||
That's another thing, another drawback, I think, to being such a fine boxer in that arena. | ||
You can be patient. | ||
It's a long, drawn-out battle. | ||
Ronda doesn't fight that way. | ||
Who knows, though, man. | ||
You never know. | ||
Maybe Holly, because her stand-up is so much more refined, she's been doing it for so much longer, maybe she can keep Ronda away from her. | ||
Who the fuck knows? | ||
I'm serious. | ||
I just think, honestly, the real problem is there's a lack of talent. | ||
Like I said, I'm not mad at the UFC. I get it, man. | ||
Let's at least let the world know who Holly is. | ||
She's going to get all this marketing. | ||
Ronda's only going to fight for so long. | ||
Holly is a badass. | ||
Whoever's managing Cyborg. | ||
I think there's plenty of talent. | ||
Ronda's just way better than all of them. | ||
No, she fired him. | ||
They still train together, though. | ||
She needs to get with MC Hammer. | ||
Go, Hammer. | ||
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Go. | |
He was doing that for a while, right? | ||
Yeah. | ||
He's my manager, son. | ||
I was in an MC Hammer rap video. | ||
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Wait a minute. | |
I was in an MC Hammer rap video. | ||
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Wait, wait, wait. | |
What happened with MC Hammer? | ||
I was in a rap video, but I wasn't dancing. | ||
What did you do in this room? | ||
Is he out? | ||
He's not in MMA no more? | ||
What happened? | ||
You can't touch this? | ||
Seriously, though, I wondered what happened to MC Hammer. | ||
He's not involved at all. | ||
He's killing the game, man. | ||
He's an investor in Facebook, Salesforce. | ||
Money for gold or whatever is one of his deals. | ||
Cash for gold. | ||
Yeah, that's it. | ||
Oh, so he's blowing up. | ||
But no more MMA. He's a businessman. | ||
No more MMA. He's got a lot of money. | ||
Does he perform anymore? | ||
I don't think so. | ||
Oh, he does. | ||
He does, man. | ||
I just saw him... | ||
With Digital Underground. | ||
He could do Vegas for the next 20 years. | ||
Wait, wait, wait. | ||
You went to see him? | ||
You know, he came here. | ||
And you left the house, and today I'm going to go see... | ||
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Yeah, I worked with him, man. | |
No, he's got all those big sponsors that everyone's giving me shit for. | ||
All of those came from MC Hammer. | ||
Salesforce, all that. | ||
From MC Hammer. | ||
Does he still have the pants? | ||
Airbnb. | ||
No. | ||
I wish. | ||
Those are the dopest pants. | ||
He sells out in, like, Africa and shit. | ||
You don't hear that. | ||
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That was the funniest thing I've ever said, dude. | |
Like in China. | ||
Africa and shit. | ||
Well, like in China, Expendable 17's huge. | ||
But here we're like, what the fuck? | ||
This is a good fight. | ||
Cote and Berkman, this is a good fight. | ||
It's a throwback to 2006 right there. | ||
Can you imagine the numbers he does in the Congo? | ||
No, I'm serious. | ||
Holy shit. | ||
He plays open air jungles. | ||
Jiu-Jitsu with the gi. | ||
Every day I improve with the gi. | ||
Notice I'm doing things that no one can do in the fight because they don't have the grip. | ||
No, he did not say that. | ||
This is three years since he became a black belt today. | ||
He's going to give him the first black stripe. | ||
Charles Oliveira. | ||
Damn, he had that piece of tape in his fucking collar. | ||
That was awesome. | ||
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How cool is that? | |
Yeah. | ||
You just learned the technique. | ||
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Oh, my friend. | |
My friend. | ||
I think the girls in the game, too, right now, they've got to realize they've got way more power than they think because there is such a small amount of them that are valuable as talented fighters. | ||
Yeah, man. | ||
Ooh, I disagree. | ||
I don't. | ||
You disagree on what? | ||
Who else are you going to get? | ||
When you're looking at women to fight Ronda, Holly Holmes is the baddest woman walking, I think. | ||
She's badass. | ||
I think it's early for her, whatever, whatever. | ||
However, how many more are out there? | ||
Five? | ||
Six? | ||
Tate, my friend. | ||
It's not like the UFC The Tough Show. | ||
Listen to this, though, bro. | ||
So Rhonda could fight, my mom could fight Rhonda at UFC 192 and they'd still sell as many pay-per-views. | ||
It does not matter who she fights. | ||
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That's not true. | |
That's true. | ||
It does not matter. | ||
Bech Correa, America doesn't know who the fuck she is. | ||
Holly Holmes, we know who she is. | ||
Two of her friends. | ||
It's like Roy Jones when he was in his prime and he was just starching everybody. | ||
It doesn't matter. | ||
It was the Roy Jones World Tour, you know? | ||
Yeah, man. | ||
We're paying to see Ronda beat up whoever. | ||
Ronda's going to have to do things now. | ||
She's going to have to do like a judo match during the day and then have like an MMA fight at night. | ||
Remember when Roy Jones played basketball? | ||
That's right. | ||
He played basketball the day of a world title defense. | ||
The day of! | ||
Not the day before. | ||
Day of! | ||
Played basketball. | ||
And then went out and whooped some ass at night. | ||
You know, one of my favorite stories about that is John Jones chasing a guy down, a robber, a purse snatcher, in New York City. | ||
Fucking runs him down, tackles him, retrieves the purse from the lady, holds the guy for the cops, and then goes, who's he not? | ||
Shogun, right? | ||
For the title. | ||
Becomes the youngest ever champion. | ||
That's like a made-up story. | ||
That's fiction in its real life. | ||
Someone's making that John Jones movie right now. | ||
He's back training, by the way. | ||
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Hell yeah! | |
There's footage of him training at Jackson's right now. | ||
Right away, right after he got in that trouble, Mr. Winklejohn was like, you're back in, help all the rest of the guys. | ||
Whatever you're doing, you're doing, but help these guys. | ||
And he was in right... | ||
He's a good... | ||
He's a stand-up dude, man. | ||
The whole division's like, eee, fuck. | ||
He's training again. | ||
I saw him doing crunches. | ||
Well, here's the problem. | ||
Like, what's going to happen with him criminally? | ||
You know, running away from... | ||
It's a big fucking deal. | ||
Running away from an accident. | ||
It's a felony, right, Joe? | ||
Because she got... | ||
Broken bones, correct? | ||
Yeah, it's a serious injury. | ||
Not only that, he was of mind to come back and get whatever he needed from his car and then leave again. | ||
The problem with that is, I'm not saying you should lie, but there's a defense that you could always use in a car accident that you got hit so hard in the head you didn't know what the fuck you were doing. | ||
And then you left. | ||
No one could use that argument better than a guy like Jon Jones. | ||
Why is it taking so long? | ||
I don't know how long it takes for these things. | ||
I hate to say this, but that's why they always say if you are in a situation and you're drunk, people in the know will run away from the scene. | ||
Because you can say, I hit my head and I was disoriented. | ||
There's no way to prove. | ||
Yes. | ||
The next day that you weren't. | ||
Exactly. | ||
So leaving the scene is not... | ||
The defense, and it wins, is I didn't know where I was, and I just... | ||
I know he came back and got cash, though. | ||
Even still? | ||
No. | ||
The difference with this is that somebody was hurt makes it felonious. | ||
If you're just leaving the scene, not as bad a deal as a drunk driving. | ||
Hurting somebody, leaving the scene, way worse. | ||
Dude, I love the fact you used the word felonious. | ||
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I do, too. | |
Yeah, that was intense. | ||
Felonious Monk. | ||
I'm with it, though. | ||
That should be a rapper, Felonious Monk. | ||
You know, instead of Thelonious Monk? | ||
There probably is a rat, I bet. | ||
I bet you're right. | ||
Let's look it up right now. | ||
I bet you're totally right. | ||
I bet you're wrong. | ||
I bet that's easy, Eddie. | ||
That's your shit. | ||
Come back, take Verdum's belt, and take fucking... | ||
That's exactly what's gonna happen, Aubrey. | ||
He's become fresh out of prison. | ||
Yeah, there's the guy. | ||
His name is Thelonious Monk. | ||
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He was a great pianist and he went crazy. | |
Thelonious. | ||
Thelonious went crazy. | ||
He was a great jazz pianist. | ||
He actually went crazy. | ||
Even the best jazz pianist, you can keep him. | ||
How about that? | ||
He was a genius. | ||
How about that? | ||
You've got the nicest jazz penis I've ever seen. | ||
I went to the LA County Museum of Art the other day. | ||
Save your fucking brain cells. | ||
Save your time. | ||
I'm going to show you some pictures. | ||
I'm not bullshitting. | ||
There's a plexiglass box on the ground. | ||
It was roped off. | ||
I go, is that the art? | ||
That's the art. | ||
It is a plexiglass box. | ||
And there's some bullshit written on the wall what this box is supposed to represent. | ||
It's a fucking box! | ||
I paid money to see a box. | ||
It's a box. | ||
Were your kids bored out of their minds? | ||
Out of their mind. | ||
They were ready to run through walls. | ||
There was a critic who said that the reason that those kinds of things sold for millions of dollars was because a small group of people who are modern art aficionados wanted to be and feel really exclusive. | ||
It was essentially like... | ||
Assholes. | ||
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Yeah. | |
Assholes. | ||
It's so bad. | ||
The art there is so bad. | ||
There's one piece of art. | ||
There's a screen that has 18 different separate videos playing at the same time. | ||
It's just people like throwing a ball to each other. | ||
One guy's juggling. | ||
One guy's smoking a cigarette. | ||
It's so fucking dumb. | ||
It's so dumb it made me angry. | ||
I was like, I can't believe you fucks made me look at this. | ||
One of them was supposed to represent tar and feathering. | ||
So it was like a black background with some feathers on it. | ||
I was like, I'll fucking kill you. | ||
I'll fucking kill you if you put this in a museum. | ||
And you paid to get in there? | ||
I paid! | ||
I didn't have to pay either because I'm a fucking resident of LA County. | ||
I could have got in for free. | ||
And a celebrity. | ||
I'm like, let's contribute. | ||
Let's contribute. | ||
So we paid. | ||
To get in. | ||
I told you, there's nothing more maddening than a modern art exhibit. | ||
Especially the art that came out of the 60s and 70s. | ||
Rauschenberg and those guys. | ||
Not only that, man. | ||
The people that were so fucking pretentious. | ||
Damien Lichtenstein and all those guys. | ||
There's one of them is Junk. | ||
There's an exhibit that they call Junk. | ||
And you go there and it's just garbage that they've glued in frames. | ||
It's so fucking stupid. | ||
There's some place that they just opened where they opened it to a lot of street artists, and they just had blank walls in there, and they let that go, which I think has huge potential to be badass. | ||
Well, some street artists are fucking amazing. | ||
Really fucking amazing. | ||
Super talented. | ||
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That dude never down in Venice. | |
You see him? | ||
He did, like, Baby Blues. | ||
He did a place by Clutch. | ||
Oh, yeah, that he's never he is wicked red bands like red bands the one who really turned like He text me goes hey, dude cuz Justin boo his daughter trains at my school, and I don't know any artist I know Todd white. | ||
That's it, and I didn't know who Justin boo. | ||
Yeah, I'm not I'm not big in the artwork He's a painter of lots of shit, but he's known for painting hip-hop artists and doing weird-looking paintings of them that are insane. | ||
He's got books and... | ||
Anyways, Red Band wanted me to... | ||
Well, that's why Red Band should do his own podcast. | ||
I've been telling him forever. | ||
You have all these interests that I don't have in. | ||
You should do your own podcast. | ||
You'd be good at a podcast. | ||
Just start your own thing and do it. | ||
Doesn't Red Band do his own? | ||
I thought he had five of them. | ||
Doesn't he have 16? | ||
No. | ||
He has this thing called Dysentery, but it just gets girls on. | ||
He gets drunk and harasses them. | ||
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What? | |
It's called The Sexual Harassment of Brian Redband. | ||
That's the name of the podcast. | ||
What I'm saying is he should do like a show where he has guests on. | ||
Call it like the Redband Show. | ||
I thought he had that. | ||
No, he doesn't. | ||
That's Squad TV? No, he doesn't have any single podcast that's like the Redband Show. | ||
He does Kill Tony. | ||
He does all of them with other people. | ||
But he would be good one-on-one. | ||
Well, he knows. | ||
But you know what? | ||
He knows that he's like the engineer guy. | ||
He's like the Dr. Dre of podcasts. | ||
Well, he doesn't even act as an engineer on my show anymore. | ||
He sits as like a co-host. | ||
You know, I think he's better off when he's not distracted by computers in front of him and all this stuff. | ||
First of all, he's so ADD. He'll just start Googling things. | ||
I'll catch him going on his Facebook and like, we're doing a show. | ||
Like, put your phone down just for a show. | ||
But that's how his mind is. | ||
Like, if you go to dinner with him, he's like that. | ||
But that's also why he's got so much information on stuff that's going on on the internet. | ||
I mean, he'll tell you, look, I'm looking for things to talk about. | ||
Like, yeah, but you've got to kind of like talk. | ||
But we're in an actual conversation now, currently. | ||
It's not his fault, but what I'm saying is he would probably recognize that more if he was doing his own show. | ||
Like if he did like the Red Band show. | ||
It's not like you don't have time for it. | ||
You only do my show like once or twice at the most a week. | ||
You have all these other days. | ||
You don't have another job. | ||
It's like you could be really good at it. | ||
I think he would really have a huge market. | ||
Because I think he's a weird guy. | ||
He's funny. | ||
He says a lot of crazy, silly shit. | ||
He's got a lot of varied, bizarre interests. | ||
I think it would help him so people could see what he's really all about. | ||
What people like about him. | ||
It'd be better for him. | ||
It would help his comedy, for sure. | ||
Yeah, fuck yeah. | ||
And then, like, a guy like this guy, like this artist, or, you know, he would expose people to things that he's into, because he's in a lot of, I mean, I find out about a lot of stuff from him. | ||
He's into fringe stuff, right? | ||
Yeah, a lot of weird stuff. | ||
Well, that's the other thing, too, is if he was doing that, and he had a regular time, and he had to be true to somebody else, he invited a guest, it would hone his discipline, and if he did that... | ||
Oh, no, did we just lose DirecTV? | ||
Boom! | ||
Ah, so close. | ||
Wow, DirecTV almost shit. | ||
Couple 35 year olds going at it. | ||
I think that for almost everybody that is involved in stand-up comedy, doing your own podcast is a great idea. | ||
Unless you don't need your Russell Peters or Louis CK, why bother? | ||
You know, but for anybody else, like a guy like me, or for Bill Burr, I'm sure it's been gigantic for his career. | ||
For Joey Diaz, it's been gigantic. | ||
It's been gigantic for you. | ||
It's been gigantic for you. | ||
For me, it's been fucking amazing. | ||
It's been a lifesaver for me, man. | ||
Me too. | ||
I think it's the best form of communication. | ||
I just think more people should find what's true to them. | ||
I know podcasts where guys work with other guys and they fucking wind up hating each other. | ||
Eddie Ift had that with Jim Jeffries. | ||
They had this great podcast together, but they couldn't keep it together together. | ||
Now Eddie's got his own thing, talking shit. | ||
He's had three different ones like that, like Eddie's gone through. | ||
What was that about? | ||
They just didn't get along? | ||
It's hard, man. | ||
Sometimes you want to talk and they're talking and sometimes you disagree and you don't want to discuss certain things or the things that you think are interesting they think are dumb and you get mad. | ||
Never had that with my boy over here. | ||
Well, that's one of the reasons why you guys work so well together. | ||
You guys have interesting dynamics and you know when you say ridiculous shit that it's ridiculous and so you play along with it when everybody shits on you. | ||
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Right. | |
Because you're kind of semi-serious when you first bring things up and then you're not married to it and you realize along You've said, why does he just hit him with the right hand here? | ||
And they're like, yeah, for sure, Brian. | ||
And then it becomes, you kind of go with it. | ||
No, guys, guys, I box. | ||
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No, guys. | |
No, clinically, I was reading a study, and it's a fact, actually. | ||
That's like watching Sean Porter and George A. Moseley box, and I was like, I feel like I could navigate that kind of movement. | ||
I literally think that sometimes because I'm watching it and I'm like, oh God. | ||
And then your comedy turned into that same personality he was talking about. | ||
You go out and you say, fuck, I wish I was a bad motherfucker. | ||
I wish that knife throwing thing. | ||
You just want to be this knife expert. | ||
Meanwhile, we're missing a good fight. | ||
It's a really good fight. | ||
Berkman's lighting them up. | ||
He's throwing a lot of kicks. | ||
These guys know what is up. | ||
I got Kote winning via TKL. Kote's Jiu-Jitsu has really improved. | ||
Really improved. | ||
I was really impressed with his takedowns and his Jiu-Jitsu in his last fight. | ||
How about that he was the guy that went the longest with Anderson. | ||
Well, before he blew his knee out. | ||
Well, he exposed a fundamental flaw in Anderson's game. | ||
That is, if you don't lead, he doesn't either. | ||
True. | ||
Oh! | ||
No joke, man. | ||
He stood in Lombard's face, man. | ||
Very tough guy. | ||
Choked out John Fitch in one round, put him to sleep. | ||
That's right. | ||
I forgot about that. | ||
Caught him in that guillotine, put him to sleep. | ||
He's a fucking veteran. | ||
Yeah, he's been very good. | ||
It was very good in World Series of Fighting. | ||
Relaxed. | ||
He doesn't want to fight since. | ||
He's very calm coming back. | ||
He doesn't want to fight in the UFC yet, correct? | ||
Well, he fought Lombard, came in short notice, and wasn't feeling well for that fight either. | ||
Then fought Stun Gun and got choked. | ||
Did he get choked? | ||
Which kind of choke was it? | ||
He's lost four in a row, I think. | ||
Berkman? | ||
Tell you what, man. | ||
I will always keep a guy like Berkman around. | ||
He makes shit interesting. | ||
Swings to the fences. | ||
He's very smart. | ||
He's a good dude. | ||
His boxing is very good. | ||
Dude, he fucking hurt Cotain. | ||
That's the guillotine. | ||
That's the shit, man. | ||
He lost the left hand. | ||
That left hand he tagged him with? | ||
Dude, he hits hard. | ||
And you know what else about Berkman? | ||
He's real calm in there. | ||
Very. | ||
He gets real relaxed. | ||
Look at him right now. | ||
He doesn't expend his energy. | ||
He also went through some significant injuries with his back. | ||
Oh, that's right. | ||
Yeah, he healed it up in some weird way. | ||
He was talking to me about it, and I really didn't understand it, and I wanted to go more in-depth with him. | ||
But he said he did, like, balance work, and, like, it was a lot of positive thinking. | ||
What kind of injury are we talking about? | ||
The dude from Westside Barbell? | ||
Bulging discs. | ||
The dude from Westside Barbell, he broke his back in, like, five different ways. | ||
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Louis Simmons? | |
Louis Simmons. | ||
Yeah. | ||
And Shane Sweat, he's one of his main instructors, he was saying that that's why he developed the reverse hyper machine. | ||
Mm-hmm. | ||
Specifically to heal his back. | ||
And he healed his back by himself. | ||
Five breaks in his fucking spine. | ||
They all wanted to cut him open. | ||
They all wanted to fuse his discs. | ||
That's a bad dude, man. | ||
He's a bad motherfucker. | ||
Those guys talk about transfer of power, man, in a huge way. | ||
When you see tip-tap boxing and all that stuff and what is making guys turn it over, that stuff is trained. | ||
You can change. | ||
Everybody's like, oh, he's got knockout power. | ||
He doesn't. | ||
You can give that to somebody. | ||
You can train yourself. | ||
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Sort of. | |
I've never seen anybody that is a pity-pat puncher become a bomber. | ||
Look at his takedown defense. | ||
Look at Berksman's takedown defense. | ||
Nobody trains it either. | ||
Nobody trains it either, but like a George Foreman guy, you don't have to train that shit. | ||
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Sure. | |
There's guys you don't have to, but it doesn't mean that it's outside of the realm of others' possibility. | ||
That is true. | ||
I mean, I think it has to do with your ability to cover distance in a very quick amount of time, but it also has to do with bone mass. | ||
Sure. | ||
Bone mass is undeniable when it comes to punching. | ||
It's not a weird secret that people with giant hands hit way fucking harder. | ||
They just do. | ||
But even like you look at Little Dodson, he's not a huge guy by any means. | ||
He's explosive. | ||
And he puts guys down. | ||
He's so ridiculous and fast. | ||
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Like a heavyweight. | |
So fast. | ||
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He's explosive. | |
He was born. | ||
He turns his hips over like that. | ||
No, no, no. | ||
He's got some serious speed. | ||
Every movement that he makes is 100%. | ||
This is a good fucking fight, man. | ||
Nice short elbows by Kote there. | ||
I slept on Berkman. | ||
I thought he was going to get starched by Hector Lombard, a juiced up Hector Lombard, and he freaking rolled that thing out, man. | ||
Yeah, he's tough as fuck, dude. | ||
Did Lombard get popped for juice soon? | ||
He got popped for that fight. | ||
Oh, Jesus, these guys are going off. | ||
Yeah, and... | ||
Kote is fucking tough. | ||
God, he's tough, man. | ||
He's one of the toughest guys as far as his ability to take a shot and keep his confidence. | ||
He looks like he's in a different weight class than Bergman. | ||
Well, he has. | ||
He fought at 185 for the title. | ||
And he was a 205 or two. | ||
He's a good analyst, too. | ||
He fought Tito in his first fight in the UFC. He knocked Tito down and surprised him a lot. | ||
He's a bad motherfucker. | ||
Look at him. | ||
He's got a lot better with his grappling. | ||
His grappling has really improved in a big way. | ||
He broke his hands. | ||
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Oh! | |
It's over! | ||
Oh! | ||
Berkman is fucking hurt! | ||
Look at Berkman swinging fast. | ||
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I love Berkman. | |
He's still hurt, man. | ||
He's still hurt. | ||
He doesn't know where he was when he threw that. | ||
He has no idea. | ||
Wow. | ||
Wow. | ||
He's like, I'm over here trying to pretend I'm unfazed by that. | ||
I'm just going to walk it off. | ||
I hope I'm walking the right direction. | ||
Are these my coaches? | ||
Jesus Christ. | ||
When he caught Patrick with that shot, and you know guys hit pretty well when he's like, I'm going to just change directions, go right for a double leg right now and not even think about it. | ||
True. | ||
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Oof. | |
That single leg is not finished all that often, but someone who does it really well, I think, is Shogun. | ||
Like, I see him finish that single leg a lot. | ||
The best is DC. If he gets a whole motion, you're like, you're going for a ride. | ||
But does he go to the crotch? | ||
Shogun, I'm not a wrestler, I don't really know, but he seems to do it a different way. | ||
He snaps it. | ||
He knows how to snap it. | ||
He knows how to straighten your leg out and snap you down. | ||
But in my opinion, the scariest is Nurmagomedov. | ||
Nurmagomedov, that motherfucker outgrapples everybody. | ||
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True. | |
Like, you see him get a hold of people, he just ragdolls everybody. | ||
It's the way he's doing it that's so confusing. | ||
Like, Dos Anjos is strong as fuck, and he's a really good grappler. | ||
And when you see him fight Nurmagomedov, Nurmagomedov's like, eh, not today. | ||
I think you'll be on bottom for a while, eating elbow sandwiches. | ||
He beat Dos Anjos. | ||
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He beat everybody. | |
He beat everybody. | ||
That combat sambo. | ||
Oh, look at that right hand! | ||
Combat sambo. | ||
He was a world champion sambo, but wasn't he also a high-level wrestler? | ||
He can wrestle, for sure. | ||
But his background is primarily soundball. | ||
I don't know if he has experience. | ||
He drew a lot of Greco in that shit. | ||
Tony got a little better wrestling than Rafael Dos Anjos. | ||
Tony Ferguson? | ||
Oh, you're saying better wrestling than Dos Anjos? | ||
Yes. | ||
Ooh, that's tough. | ||
Come on, man. | ||
Tony wrestled in college. | ||
Tony is a real wrestler. | ||
I agree. | ||
Dos Anjos is a world champion. | ||
Tony wrestled in high school and college and he's legit. | ||
American. | ||
He's legit. | ||
Freestyle. | ||
America. | ||
Trust me. | ||
He's a legit wrestler. | ||
No, I'm with you, but I'm talking about UFC grappling wrestling. | ||
Rafael Dos Anjos is a jiu-jitsu guy. | ||
He's from Brazil. | ||
There's three wrestlers in Brazil. | ||
I know, but in the UFC, he's the champ. | ||
They have a team. | ||
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How dare you. | |
They have a whole guy, Henato Babalu. | ||
Remember how weird was it that Henato Babalu was that Brazilian MMA fighter that was a wrestler? | ||
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He was the only Brazilian wrestler out there. | |
You don't have a lot of big wrestlers to come out of Brazil. | ||
Hinata Babalu was a wrestler. | ||
You know who does an amazing job with a single leg is Glover Teixeira. | ||
The way he runs that pike when he grabs that. | ||
That's a great wrestling. | ||
Another Brazilian who can wrestle? | ||
That's a basic pike run. | ||
A lot of Brazilians can wrestle now. | ||
Don't get me wrong. | ||
Well, Glover can do it because of Chuck Liddell. | ||
It's different when you're raised that way and you're going to junior high school and you're wrestling and then you're going to high school and then you're going to college. | ||
I mean, those Brazilians would go to Cuba. | ||
You guys can't talk over each other. | ||
I'm going to explode. | ||
If Glover grabs your leg, if you're single leg, he's the one guy that your takedown defense probably isn't going to work too well. | ||
He was doing basic stuff, too. | ||
What's really impressive, there's a video of your boy Cyborg, the other Cyborg, Roberto Abru. | ||
Cyborg Abru? | ||
Yeah, he's doing these drills. | ||
God damn, that guy moves good. | ||
Tornado drills or what? | ||
He's doing drills, like guard pass drills. | ||
Jamie, go look at CyborgBJJ on Instagram and pull up the video. | ||
Just watch how he moves for a 235 pound guy. | ||
I know what you're talking about. | ||
He passes, knee on the belly, and then the guy rolls into him and then he jumps to the back. | ||
Dude, you saw the video today? | ||
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Yeah. | |
Amazing, right? | ||
Was it today? | ||
Yeah. | ||
No, I'm talking about a video from like a week ago. | ||
Oh, well, I'm sure he's got a bunch. | ||
Did you post it, Joe? | ||
No, he posted it. | ||
Look at this. | ||
Watch it, Jetty. | ||
Eddie. | ||
Jetty. | ||
I'm sorry. | ||
Eddie, watch this. | ||
No, no, this is a different one, Jamie. | ||
This is him. | ||
That's him. | ||
That's just an escape that he does. | ||
That one, right-hand corner. | ||
This is it. | ||
Watch this shit. | ||
Watch this pass. | ||
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I've seen this, yeah. | |
Look how fast this motherfucker moves. | ||
When he rolls into him, he gets side control. | ||
Look at that. | ||
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Jesus. | |
He's a big guy, man. | ||
Look at this. | ||
For a guy this big to move that well. | ||
I mean, fuck. | ||
Freak. | ||
What's that hat he has on? | ||
It's ear guards, brother. | ||
How dare you? | ||
How dare you, Tate? | ||
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Beautiful. | |
I mean, I'm so impressed with that. | ||
I mean, I can't imagine. | ||
That's a 240-pound man that can move like that. | ||
That's fucking crazy. | ||
That's how big he is, right? | ||
He's about 240? | ||
Yeah, 240. Man. | ||
Matt Morris think he was 230. He's a fucking panther. | ||
I mean, he really is a panther. | ||
That is freakish. | ||
He beat Buchecha the last time they competed. | ||
He's a freak, man. | ||
He is as good as he gets when it comes to Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. | ||
That guy's as good as he gets. | ||
He's a monster. | ||
So strong. | ||
He's different from a lot of those guys in his physical preparation, too. | ||
He puts all these videos up of the strength and conditioning shit that he does. | ||
Fuck. | ||
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Fuck! | |
Like NFL combine shit. | ||
That motherfucker is running with rubber bands pulling them and shit. | ||
He's a true pro. | ||
Yeah, he's a true pro. | ||
He's like a real pro. | ||
Super nice guy, too. | ||
Really nice guy. | ||
Great guy, man. | ||
Real positive online. | ||
Real, like, inspirational online. | ||
I'm a huge fan of his. | ||
I'm gonna follow him. | ||
Were you bummed out that people were mad at you about that Metamorris bout? | ||
Are you talking about the shop shutdown? | ||
Yeah. | ||
What is that? | ||
Brandon Schaub just shut down all of his takedowns and just made him stand up there and realize, if I don't want this fight to go to the ground, you're not going to get me to the ground. | ||
But then I went in his guard eight times. | ||
Yeah, you did. | ||
After a while. | ||
Cool, check this out. | ||
I'll go on your guard. | ||
But the first thing you did, and you did this within a couple months of a UFC fight, and everybody was mad at you, but I was like, well, listen, you've got to look at it this way. | ||
The guy's a professional MMA fighter. | ||
The other guy who's fighting is known for tearing knees to pieces. | ||
Like, this is... | ||
Oh, look at this, Berkman! | ||
Look at that guillotine again! | ||
It wasn't even that, Joe. | ||
It was more like... | ||
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It's not worth the risk. | |
Well, not even that. | ||
I wouldn't have signed up if it wasn't for that. | ||
The plan was to wear him out. | ||
I wanted to keep shooting, keep shooting, so I could get a hold of his neck. | ||
Because all my stuff is in transitions. | ||
He knew this. | ||
So he stopped shooting, and then he just sat to his butt. | ||
I was like, well, we gotta get something going here. | ||
So that's why I kept going to his guard. | ||
So your whole game plan was to try to catch him as he was trying to take you down. | ||
Yes, and then when he decided to sit to his butt, I was like, I didn't even think of that. | ||
I'm like, well, fuck. | ||
And then you get that kind of weird... | ||
Like, he's not engaging, I didn't, you know? | ||
Even when you were actually grappling, he never was able to put you in a weird position. | ||
No. | ||
You should really do some Adam Morris type shit, dude. | ||
I would love to, man. | ||
I don't know what Hullick's deal is. | ||
Or Eddie Bravo, Invitational, a super fight in the heavyweight division... | ||
Eddie, who you got for him? | ||
What's up, Eddie? | ||
In Austin, Texas. | ||
Hey, we might be able to promote. | ||
Want to do Cyborg? | ||
Can I get someone else? | ||
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We've already been there. | |
We've already been there. | ||
I want to see part two. | ||
I just saw that guard passing. | ||
I need somebody else. | ||
Now that I know, what you was trying to do to me is catch me when I come in for the shot. | ||
Because you're not going to be able to do that in overtime, EBI overtime. | ||
You ain't going to be able to do that. | ||
I'm not worried about that. | ||
There's only one guy in the world who I do that to, and that's Cyborg. | ||
Hey, you know what? | ||
When the rule set says that if there's no submission at the end of 15 minutes or 20 minutes, it's a draw, I would do the exact same thing. | ||
If I'm going with a guy that was fucking crazy dangerous, I'd rather take the goddamn draw than get choked out, or I would do the same goddamn thing. | ||
Well, no, that wasn't my plan. | ||
Oh, let's just go to a draw. | ||
My plan was to choke his ass out in a darts or a guillotine. | ||
That was the plan to get him shooting to open up and transition. | ||
Dude, if you submitted Cyborg, do you know how goddamn big that would be? | ||
Yeah, I do. | ||
That's why I signed up for it. | ||
Holy shit. | ||
I would be super fucking cautious. | ||
Are you kidding me? | ||
Super cautious. | ||
I would be cautious. | ||
This is Cyborg? | ||
Oh, damn. | ||
Dude, Bergman is a bad motherfucker. | ||
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Oh! | |
Look at this. | ||
He came out a different fighter. | ||
Bergman is hurting Cote. | ||
Joe Bergman. | ||
Oh my god, and he returns! | ||
Returns fire! | ||
Holy shit! | ||
He's tough, man! | ||
These guys are rough! | ||
Oh my god! | ||
Damn! | ||
He tagged him again! | ||
He's wobbled! | ||
Damn, Berkman is so accurate! | ||
Berkman's a great fighter, man! | ||
He's so calm in the pocket, too. | ||
It's the football. | ||
Super. | ||
Yeah, he doesn't get emotional, does he? | ||
No. | ||
He stays way calm. | ||
Especially coming after. | ||
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Oh! | |
He sees everything that way, you know? | ||
He's a real veteran. | ||
But so is Cote, man. | ||
He really is. | ||
Cote is as calm as they get under fire. | ||
Cote's one of the hardest hitters at 70, man. | ||
Jesus Christ. | ||
Is he though? | ||
I think so. | ||
Because don't you think that the cut down to 170 has maybe diminished a bit of that? | ||
Because it's hard. | ||
He's not the same. | ||
He's lost physical size. | ||
True, but he's still a big 70er. | ||
Yes, he's big, for sure. | ||
But we haven't really been seeing him knock guys out like he did. | ||
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Oh! | |
I'm sorry, I missed that last part. | ||
What were you saying? | ||
Oh my god. | ||
Dude, how tough is Berkman? | ||
How tough is Berkman? | ||
He's almost back up. | ||
Don't stop it! | ||
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Oh, that's it! | |
That's it! | ||
Could that not have been Berkman? | ||
That was a perfect timing. | ||
There's never been a better timing ever. | ||
You're like, he's not really knocking guys up. | ||
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Boom! | |
Dude, I'll go power at 170. Listen to me, Joe Rogan. | ||
I carry power. | ||
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At 170 as well as 185. I think it's a great cut for him, too. | |
I mean, that's the third round, and he's not tired at all. | ||
That was fucking amazing. | ||
That was a hell of a fight. | ||
What a fight. | ||
And you've got to think how rocked he got early in that round. | ||
Yes. | ||
Well, he was covering up, and Berkman was going off on him. | ||
That motherfucker is tough as shit. | ||
That was dope. | ||
Goddamn, that right hand was picture-perfect, too. | ||
It's a huge fight in front of all his fans, too, in Canada. | ||
And a war! | ||
That's like the sweetest victory. | ||
Because it's one where, you know, you pull yourself out of the fire. | ||
Fuck. | ||
Like, you see the benefits from your training and your camp. | ||
He was in a couple spots where he was in a lot of trouble. | ||
Oh, my goodness. | ||
But that right hand was so beautiful. | ||
Look how he sets it up, too. | ||
Faints with the jab first. | ||
Still didn't knock him out cold. | ||
Oh, Josh Berkman's tough as fuck. | ||
Tough as fuck. | ||
Berkman almost got up. | ||
Yes. | ||
You know what? | ||
And I'll tell you what. | ||
If they didn't stop the fight, Berkman would have eventually gotten up. | ||
Watch. | ||
What he does here, he goes, I don't want to come up. | ||
I'm going to pull guard. | ||
He rolls to his back here. | ||
He's not like... | ||
He's right there. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Right? | ||
Yeah, they probably shouldn't have stopped it. | ||
But either way, whatever. | ||
He wasn't upset that they stopped it either, though. | ||
Powerful Patrick Cote. | ||
Well, he knows. | ||
I mean, he knows. | ||
He got a bomb dropped on his chin. | ||
I love how he set it up, too. | ||
The pawing with the jab to get that distance. | ||
Then, boom! | ||
Fight of the night so far. | ||
Oh, yeah. | ||
I commentated a fight where the ref stopped it early, and the guy was complaining that it stopped it early. | ||
So the ref said, this was in the hall, and the ref said, okay, fight again. | ||
So the guy got knocked out again. | ||
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Oh, hell no. | |
I don't want to throw the fighter under the bus. | ||
He's a really nice guy. | ||
What organization, King of Kids? | ||
Too hot to handle. | ||
The guy complained. | ||
He was complaining, why did you stop it? | ||
I wasn't rocked. | ||
He goes, you were out. | ||
I wasn't rocked. | ||
And the ref said... | ||
Alright, let's go again. | ||
And then he backed up in the corner so you could see it in his eyes. | ||
He's like, fuck. | ||
He never thought the ref would continue the fight. | ||
Hasn't that happened in the UFC before where they're like, no, no, watch the replay. | ||
You're unconscious. | ||
Well, not, but Murillo Bustamante had to tap Matt Lindon out twice. | ||
Remember that? | ||
Yeah. | ||
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Why? | |
What do you mean? | ||
Big John McCarthy fucked up. | ||
Matt Lindland, he caught Matt Lindland in an arm bar. | ||
Matt Lindland tapped, and then he said he didn't tap, so he was just trying to change his position. | ||
And so they made him fight again, and then the next round, Murillo, I think, caught him in a guillotine. | ||
Pretty sure it was a guillotine. | ||
But he had to tap him twice. | ||
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Right. | |
Because, you know, it's an error by the referee. | ||
Hey, bro. | ||
I'm just trying to change position. | ||
Well, I think John saw the arm was fully straightened out. | ||
Saw he's fighting Bustamante. | ||
Saw, you ain't getting out of that. | ||
No, that's legit. | ||
Stop, man. | ||
That's Carlson Gracie's original squad of black belts. | ||
Tall man, too. | ||
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He's good, man. | |
He's good. | ||
And Matt Lindland, you know, he's a fucking competitor. | ||
You could say that about him. | ||
He bit somebody while I was wrestling with him. | ||
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He did? | |
Yeah, he was like one of his amateur wrestling matches. | ||
He bit some dude. | ||
He would always gross me out with all that tobacco on his upper lip type tobacco dude. | ||
Straight hillbilly shit. | ||
He was one of the toughest guys alive for a little while. | ||
Oh, that whole squad up there. | ||
Yeah, he was one of the toughest 185 pounders in the world. | ||
When Randy was up there. | ||
Well, that's when he fought David Terrell, when David Terrell was a real threat. | ||
Dude, he was a savage. | ||
David Terrell knocked him out. | ||
David Terrell was terrifying. | ||
I remember him on Grappler's Quest, and he was just ripping heads off. | ||
Yeah. | ||
I heard in the gym he's like the biggest freak. | ||
He's a monster. | ||
I heard he's an absolute nightmare to grapple with. | ||
Well, you should see him fucking go back and watch his early Abu Dhabis. | ||
Dude, Dave Terrell was a monster. | ||
Oh, I'm familiar with him. | ||
He's a super monster. | ||
I'm a huge fan. | ||
You know, he had some serious fucking infections in his ear from Cauliflower where they had to remove his ear. | ||
They cut his ear off his head and they had to scrape it out and there's all pus and everything in there. | ||
I think they had to wind up cauterizing inside his ear. | ||
He had some serious fucking ear problems. | ||
I had no idea about that. | ||
Dude, cauliflower ear, you know, most of it, you look at Cote's ear right there, most of it is just cosmetic, but there are times where you get ear problems where it goes deep inside the ear and you're in a big fucking terrible situation. | ||
The worst I've ever seen is guys when they, like on the outside it's not a big deal, but when it starts to close off and then their hearing is mitigated. | ||
Oh yeah, and they get staph. | ||
You get staph inside your ear too. | ||
That's another thing that can happen. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Yeah, it's fucking, it's terrifying. | ||
Oh my god. | ||
What a perfect timing. | ||
Crazy that didn't put him out. | ||
Oh my god. | ||
Right on the button. | ||
Cote. | ||
Cote's still getting better. | ||
It's amazing. | ||
It's awesome to see, man. | ||
He just, he never loses his enthusiasm for it. | ||
It'd be cool if we could press a button, like a mute button, where he could say some shit that you wouldn't want to say on air, but you just want to tell everyone else. | ||
Like what? | ||
No, I'm just saying. | ||
Throughout the night. | ||
I feel like you've got something right now. | ||
You think that right now? | ||
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No, no, no, no. | |
Just throughout the UFC in general. | ||
It'd be nice to have a mute button. | ||
Patrick Cote, I'm sure, is kind of sensitive. | ||
He's thinking maybe you're talking shit about him. | ||
Hey, I love Patrick Cote. | ||
Are you kidding? | ||
Josh Berkman. | ||
Love him to death. | ||
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Motherfucker. | |
I'm just talking in general. | ||
See, that's a fight where I agree that you almost shouldn't cut Berkman. | ||
He's a fucking animal. | ||
He's an animal. | ||
Why cut him? | ||
He's entertaining too. | ||
And by the way, he beats a lot of guys in that division. | ||
A ton of guys. | ||
A lot of guys. | ||
If you give him the right matchups. | ||
But there comes a point where... | ||
You've beat so many good guys, they're not going to give you those easy matchups. | ||
You know what I'm saying? | ||
You're such a veteran. | ||
Like this guy. | ||
How about that matchup? | ||
Is there anybody more explosive than that guy? | ||
Is he straight out of Compton? | ||
No. | ||
I heard he was in it, though. | ||
Did you see him? | ||
There's a video with him and this bodybuilder guy, and they're doing all these bodybuilder exercises. | ||
I was going to say, he might help. | ||
I sent it to my friend who's a strength and conditioning coach, and he was horrified. | ||
He was like, why the fuck would you ever do this kind of a workout, like a superset workout for MMA? He's like, you're literally going to make your body work against itself. | ||
You're going to stress your muscles out, blow your muscles out in weird ways, stress out all, you know, like you're going to do bodybuilding stuff like bench presses. | ||
It was really an interesting conversation and no one knows because what's good for you is not good for him. | ||
Everybody's got their own different way of improving their body, but for Woodley, he feels that he was not as exposed. | ||
Like he listened to many people like me that were saying he's carrying around too much muscle and that it was taken away from his explosion. | ||
Because he was trying to lean out a little bit. | ||
So then he went back to it. | ||
Maybe he's right. | ||
That's Woodley's body type, right? | ||
Super explosive. | ||
He might not have the best cardio, but he's going to be a motherfucking beast to hang out with for those first two rounds. | ||
But that's him. | ||
He's never going to be a Neil Magny. | ||
But he just has to do what he does best, you know? | ||
Like Shane Carwin, he tried that too. | ||
Shane tried losing all this weight and shit, tried being a cardio guy, and he just wasn't the same fighter, man. | ||
Yeah, you don't have what brought you to the dance, right? | ||
No, yeah, exactly. | ||
Stick what got you to the dance. | ||
Yeah, it's an interesting problem because if you fight in a guy like Johnny Hendricks, who's his next opponent, great fight by the way, right? | ||
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Phenomenal fight. | |
That's a great fight. | ||
If the fight goes into the third round, can he compete at the same level? | ||
Robbie Lawler. | ||
You know Robbie Lawler can go balls to the wall for five rounds. | ||
He can do it. | ||
He can do it. | ||
So if you try that shit in the first round on him and you're still there for the second and third rounds, you're going to be, you know, you're a different person now. | ||
You're not the same guy. | ||
You're a guy operating at 40%. | ||
That's what you gotta do, though. | ||
With all these strength coaches that you talk to. | ||
That's his best shot to win. | ||
Right. | ||
That first two rounds. | ||
Just to be a fucking demolition machine until you can't be a demolition machine and then get taken out. | ||
Yeah, but until you meet a guy, until you meet a veteran who can weather your storm like Glover with OSM. OSB, OSB. And OSM. And OSM. I think you're doing great, Brian. | ||
Thank you, Tate. | ||
When you talk to these strength coaches, are there like three, four exercises all of them agree are very important to do? | ||
Pilates. | ||
You say that, but Sergey Kovalev, he believes in Pilates. | ||
The fucking one of the best boxers on the planet. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Kovalev does? | ||
Yeah. | ||
Wow. | ||
He does Pilates. | ||
Crazy power. | ||
Yeah, well, he does a lot of Pilates because he wants to stay flexible and has a big range of motion. | ||
Yeah, he's into Pilates. | ||
It's kind of interesting, I thought. | ||
Because I've seen a lot of guys that are into yoga. | ||
I've never seen anybody that's into Pilates. | ||
Right. | ||
Rhonda did Pilates for a while, too. | ||
Pilates isn't kind of like yoga. | ||
It's just a strengthening stretch. | ||
Oh, Brian. | ||
It's nothing like yoga. | ||
I don't know what you're talking about. | ||
You actually lie down. | ||
You have cables and equipment. | ||
Yoga is your own body weight. | ||
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That's what I mean. | |
Like yoga, but with cables and lying down. | ||
Have you ever done Pilates? | ||
It's like that because it's a lot of housewives. | ||
I'm not going to answer that question. | ||
I'm not in the court of law right now. | ||
Pilate hottie. | ||
I pass it. | ||
I've never even once thought about going in. | ||
I've driven by it. | ||
I've seen it being done. | ||
Those chicks look like they're putting out almost no effort. | ||
Every time I look in there, I'm like, this looks like maybe the easiest workout you can do. | ||
Everybody comes out, their body looks exactly the same. | ||
Somebody who was a real athlete told me it was no joke. | ||
I'm sure. | ||
I'm fucking around. | ||
I'm sure it's hard. | ||
Here we go. | ||
What's up? | ||
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What's up? | |
Oh, no, no. | ||
We're not on this. | ||
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Yeah, we are. | |
No, you don't have to. | ||
That section was not there. | ||
Listen, you don't have to. | ||
Joe, you and I are betting on this one. | ||
Okay, now we are. | ||
We are. | ||
I thought we changed you. | ||
We were going to bet on the main event, weren't we? | ||
Oh, if I lose this one. | ||
Where would I? You're willing to go? | ||
You're willing to take Charles Oliver? | ||
No. | ||
Okay, okay. | ||
Which one are we betting on, Brian? | ||
I don't know, man. | ||
Hey, you know what? | ||
They just showed Eric Silva. | ||
He didn't look that yoked. | ||
They just showed him standing there. | ||
He didn't highlight, son. | ||
There have been times where he looked unbelievably yoked. | ||
No, no. | ||
You guys are wrong. | ||
We just watched it. | ||
You guys are wrong. | ||
You and Callum bet on the main event. | ||
Okay. | ||
Holloway. | ||
Okay. | ||
I bet Olivera. | ||
You got Max Holloway. | ||
I got Holloway all day. | ||
For dinner. | ||
Do you really? | ||
Well, listen. | ||
Holloway can certainly win. | ||
I don't want anybody to think that I think he's going to lose a fight. | ||
I don't know what the fuck's going to happen. | ||
I'm getting lost in Silva's eyes. | ||
Dreamy. | ||
He's handsome. | ||
He's a handsome kid. | ||
Who's the top three most handsome UFC fighters, Brian? | ||
Oh, well, Luke Rockhold, without question. | ||
Rockhold. | ||
Let's go. | ||
Eric Silva. | ||
Let's go. | ||
I would have to put... | ||
This is a very good question and one of my favorite kinds of questions. | ||
I have to say, you see, you got character. | ||
You got a little character in the mix. | ||
Conor McGregor is a kid. | ||
Women go nuts for Conor. | ||
He's got style. | ||
Cain Velasquez is not an ugly man. | ||
He's got perfect proportions. | ||
I'm sorry, sir. | ||
Who was it? | ||
Felice Herag? | ||
Sir, sir. | ||
If he was shredded, if Cain had Luke Rockett in his body. | ||
Sir, I'm going to have to ask you to step out of this conversation. | ||
I love Woodley's ass. | ||
If you're into a manly face, Mark Hunt has the thickest face. | ||
Sir, I'm going to have to ask you to take a step. | ||
Fabrizio Verdum has very interesting facial expressions. | ||
Sir, please take the bench. | ||
Take the bench for a second. | ||
I'm going to ask you to stand down, sir. | ||
I appreciate your enthusiasm, but right now you're disrupting the conversation. | ||
What's your top five, Callan? | ||
I gotta go with my boy Shob. | ||
You gotta put Shob in top five. | ||
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He's retired. | |
The kid's retired. | ||
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Not yet. | |
Not officially. | ||
Not officially. | ||
He's not officially retired. | ||
Stop getting your friend beat up. | ||
What do you base that on? | ||
His height? | ||
Shob hungry eyes. | ||
When he walks in the room, he creates a hungry eye epidemic, man. | ||
Tell me right now. | ||
It's nuts. | ||
So you gotta go with Shob. | ||
He's bigger. | ||
He's very, very... | ||
He's V'd out. | ||
And he walks like a peacock. | ||
He's always holding his breath when he walks. | ||
And you gotta give it up. | ||
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He's got a full, beautiful mouth. | |
So, what about Eric Silva? | ||
Eric Silva's gotta be top ten. | ||
You gotta put him in the top ten. | ||
Yes, with his hair with that beauty. | ||
You see no scalp. | ||
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I feel like it's offensive that you haven't mentioned Tim Kennedy at all. | |
I love Tim Kennedy, I just can't give him top ten. | ||
He's all man, but I'm speaking aesthetically as a connoisseur of the male physique and face. | ||
Without the face. | ||
Without the face. | ||
Just body. | ||
We all agree that Luke Rockhold is number one. | ||
I have to say. | ||
I said on this podcast. | ||
We all agree. | ||
The only reason why anybody gets laid is because Luke Rockhold didn't get that first. | ||
Thank you. | ||
He should sell t-shirts with that on it. | ||
Yeah. | ||
We gotta go. | ||
Who's number two? | ||
I mean, this is a big question. | ||
Well, there's people that like a Chris Weidman, an all-American-looking fella. | ||
He's a cutie pie. | ||
He's not top five. | ||
I just can't give him top five. | ||
You know who's overlooked? | ||
I think Robbie Lawler is overlooked. | ||
Too ferocious. | ||
Robbie Lawler is overlooked. | ||
Too scary. | ||
What about Johnny Hendricks? | ||
Too scary. | ||
How about this one? | ||
Dark Horse, Carlos Condit. | ||
Yes! | ||
He's handsome as fuck. | ||
By the way! | ||
Too skinny yet, he says. | ||
Excuse me. | ||
I'm giving him number two. | ||
I like him big. | ||
Handsome as fuck. | ||
In my book, he's number two. | ||
Over here, Silva? | ||
Yes, I have to say. | ||
I'm going to say Tyrone Woodley. | ||
I got one. | ||
Alan Joban. | ||
Oh, he's a male model. | ||
Oh, my God. | ||
He might be number one. | ||
To the toddlers, thank you very much. | ||
He's a male model. | ||
That's not even fair. | ||
You can't say Alan Juban! | ||
He might be number one. | ||
He's number zero. | ||
The only thing that separates him from Rockhold is Rockhold's taller. | ||
We gotta ignore Alan Juban. | ||
He's a professional. | ||
It fucks everything up. | ||
He doesn't count. | ||
He gets paid for that. | ||
We're talking about regular guys. | ||
Look at that face. | ||
He's a goddamn beautiful man. | ||
I'm not even sure yet. | ||
Yeah, come on. | ||
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Jesus Christ. | |
What a dick. | ||
Perfect man. | ||
I was staying next to him at a hotel, and he's just working out in the hallway, and I'm walking through with my girlfriend. | ||
Who? | ||
Joban. | ||
He's working out in the hallway. | ||
What was he doing in the hallway? | ||
With a trainer? | ||
By himself? | ||
She was sprinting through the hotel hall, just kind of getting warmed up. | ||
What if somebody opens the door? | ||
I don't know. | ||
Just shirt off, sweating in the hallway. | ||
Why did you have to bring him up? | ||
Jesus Christ. | ||
We had a real conversation here and you gotta bring up a professional. | ||
He makes Eric Silva look like some dude from The Hobbit. | ||
He does. | ||
Eric Self looks like Lord of the Rings now. | ||
Is Juban still fighting him? | ||
He's out there. | ||
What are you talking about? | ||
Shut the fuck up. | ||
You are really on a fighter podcast. | ||
You've got to do a little research, son. | ||
No, I am. | ||
I'm just thinking. | ||
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I did karate when I was 12. I've researched. | |
He just won in San Diego. | ||
Look at the difference in his body, guys. | ||
Yeah, his body definitely looks smoother. | ||
You know what? | ||
Eric Silva isn't even in my top five anymore. | ||
Kiss my ass? | ||
He looks like a natural athlete. | ||
Yeah, he does, but there you go. | ||
You can keep that. | ||
Poor facial hair. | ||
He's a good-looking guy. | ||
He's not making my top five. | ||
Condit. | ||
I got Condit. | ||
We got Rockhold Condit. | ||
Joban is right there. | ||
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Joban. | |
No, Joban. | ||
Allen's number one. | ||
I'm sorry. | ||
Sorry, Luke Rockhold, but Allen's number one. | ||
Really? | ||
He doesn't count. | ||
You can't count. | ||
I count him. | ||
He's a professional. | ||
5'11", I think? | ||
5'11", no, I can't give it over. | ||
It's not fair. | ||
6'3", Luke, I can't do it, my friend. | ||
Yeah, but that's the only thing that Luke has over him. | ||
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But it's a big thing. | |
Facially, he's like a 10. I like my men tall, Bob. | ||
I like my men tall. | ||
I like them to tell over me. | ||
He's an LA 6'4". | ||
I like them to leave peanuts off my head. | ||
I gotta go with my man. | ||
Well, if you want to count that, then, you know. | ||
Who's the hottest announcer? | ||
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Eve Levine. | |
Joe Rogan. | ||
No, no, no. | ||
I'm sorry. | ||
I'm sorry. | ||
The ring announcer. | ||
Oh, Bruce Buffer. | ||
He's the hottest? | ||
Bruce Buffer's the hottest man, period. | ||
Yeah, he's slick. | ||
He looks like a fucking James Bond character. | ||
He might be the best-looking man. | ||
Here we go. | ||
Come on, Neil. | ||
Wow, Eric is smooth as fuck. | ||
He does not look... | ||
Oh, this is my shit, right? | ||
This is not shit. | ||
Yo, he's lost a lot of muscle mass, too. | ||
Are you kidding me? | ||
But he looks like a young Wilmer Valderrama. | ||
Now, do you think that he's lost muscle mass because he's trying to be leaner so he has more cardio because that has been his issue? | ||
Yeah, that could be it, too. | ||
Or do you think this is a PED issue? | ||
It could be both. | ||
Brendan Schaub, you specifically, for the press. | ||
Yeah, for TMZ. That's tough, man. | ||
It could be both. | ||
It could be, right? | ||
It could be a combo of both. | ||
You have to consider it. | ||
And here we're seeing the aggression, like Aubrey was talking about. | ||
He's just not as ferocious right now. | ||
Well, you know what? | ||
He just threw some fucking big bombs right now. | ||
I don't know what you guys are talking about. | ||
No, he just took a big, deep breath. | ||
He used to be super aggressive, dude. | ||
You see the fight? | ||
Look at that! | ||
As he throws a spinning elbow! | ||
Well, he has to be careful, too, because Neil's number one thing is cardio. | ||
If you're Eric Silva, the worst thing is your cardio. | ||
And Neil has a good ground game, man. | ||
He's fucking real good on the ground. | ||
Super solid on the ground. | ||
I'd say purple belt. | ||
Yeah, solid. | ||
Damn, dude. | ||
Say that after a Damian Maia fight. | ||
Yes. | ||
But other than that, he's looked awesome on the ground. | ||
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Look at this. | |
Come on, son. | ||
He's got a good ground game. | ||
A little too high, but there was a wild scramble there. | ||
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Oh! | |
Eric Silva takes him down. | ||
Pretty aggressive. | ||
Come on, come on, come on, come on. | ||
Well, for a guy like Eric, you know, when he fights a guy like Matt Brown, and Matt Brown just outworks him and beats him down. | ||
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Oh, look at that pass. | |
Okay, that's a big sign right there. | ||
That's a sign of some dark shit on the ground for Magny right there. | ||
That quick, that fast. | ||
There's a big difference of groundwork right here. | ||
Also, he's got to also think after the Maya fight that Magny's a little suspect on the ground. | ||
And he's passing the weak side. | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
Well, that's Neil's biggest weakness if you have to pick something, right? | ||
That's on purpose. | ||
He's grappling. | ||
Off his back. | ||
Yeah, off his back. | ||
Well, Neil's just so... | ||
He's a cardio machine. | ||
He's the same guy for every round. | ||
That's so big. | ||
If he could just... | ||
Add the other skills on top of that, that cardio that he has is such a giant advantage. | ||
Hopefully mentally. | ||
Let's say he were to lose this fight, worst case scenario, and he's lost two in a row, and he's come off a seven-fight win streak. | ||
What a change. | ||
You go from seven-fight win streak to losing two in a row within two weeks. | ||
Yeah, that's true. | ||
I think at a certain point you need to be known for some kind of offensive weapon, like they gotta watch out for this or that, because you've been blasting people. | ||
If you don't have that fucking special power or two or three, you're not gonna be able to hang at the top. | ||
You gotta have some shit that they're worried about, you know? | ||
He's got cardio, though. | ||
He's got a lot of cardio. | ||
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He's the gazelle. | |
It took him a certain distance, and now he needs some firepower. | ||
That's exactly what I said. | ||
Me and his head coach, Lisa, were talking. | ||
I said, you're going to get to a certain point with those cardios and winning off points. | ||
You're going to get a bad motherfucker who's going to go, nah, man, this ain't going to work. | ||
Damian Maia. | ||
He's like, oh, you're good at cardio? | ||
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Check this out. | |
Ben Henderson who doesn't care about your cardio. | ||
And Silva here is looking good. | ||
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What are you doing? | |
Oh! | ||
Look at that! | ||
Maggie takes him down. | ||
Look at this! | ||
I may have Gustafson! | ||
Look at this! | ||
Full mount! | ||
Holy fuck! | ||
Look at this shit! | ||
Come on, Eric! | ||
Yeah, Magny looking good. | ||
Looking for that second hook, son. | ||
Risk control, son. | ||
Underhook on the left side gives him that second hook. | ||
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Oh, come on, Eric. | |
Underhook. | ||
Damn it, there you go. | ||
He's good now. | ||
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He's good. | |
Drags him right down to the ground. | ||
Either way, this is good for Neil. | ||
This transitions all this. | ||
As the rounds go on, this is good for Neil. | ||
Well, what's what we're saying about the Matt Brown fight, that Eric just could not keep up with Matt Brown. | ||
So for a guy like that, he's got to realize, now that he's been there before and he's drowned, you've got to realize, okay, I've got to figure out how to be able to sustain this, if it's possible. | ||
Yeah, maybe he addressed this shit. | ||
Maybe he's going to be fine with his cardio. | ||
He watched that fight, and I'm sure his coroner said, dude, we've got to get the cardio together. | ||
If they were smart, they would be honest with him. | ||
I think it's kind of a power thing, though, too. | ||
Either you're a cardio guy or you're not. | ||
Neil's never going to be a knockout artist. | ||
He's always going to be a cardio guy. | ||
You can fix the cardio. | ||
Kane knocks people out. | ||
Robbie Lawler knocks people the fuck out. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Well, they have both, right? | ||
They have both. | ||
Like, Kane... | ||
Who's Kane knocked out, though? | ||
Oh, my God. | ||
Nogueira. | ||
Dead. | ||
Bigfoot Silva. | ||
Dead. | ||
Yeah. | ||
I mean, he should have... | ||
I mean, he put a fucking... | ||
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Look at this. | |
Oh, man. | ||
Oh, flatten out. | ||
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Whoa. | |
30 seconds to go. | ||
Silva's in deep shit. | ||
Oh, shit. | ||
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Oh, shit. | |
Eva Levine taking a close look. | ||
Damn. | ||
Eva Levine will let that shit go. | ||
He's a good one for that. | ||
He does let things go. | ||
I may have Gustafson in my top five handsome guys. | ||
That's a thing you have for Europeans. | ||
That's not honest. | ||
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He's a handsome dude, bro. | |
Honestly, he's got a perfect Swedish face. | ||
Perfect genetics. | ||
But he's not really ripped. | ||
He's not very muscular. | ||
He kind of looks like that vampire from True Blood. | ||
He does. | ||
A dude's a dive piece. | ||
See, you have to distinguish between women. | ||
A dude is a dive piece. | ||
You know, in Sweden, for many years, they sterilize kids that didn't have perfectly symmetrical faces. | ||
Is that a fact? | ||
That's actually not true. | ||
Hey, that's some eugenics. | ||
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That's why they're so good looking. | |
I don't know. | ||
No, look into it. | ||
You think that's crazy? | ||
Wait a minute. | ||
When you say look into it, did you look into it? | ||
I got on the internet! | ||
My brother-in-law is from Sweden and his face is not at all symmetrical. | ||
Is that bad? | ||
They had him in the woods and they kept him from the officials. | ||
That's how crazy it is. | ||
You guys don't believe it. | ||
That's why they're so good looking. | ||
Eddie, this is all you need to do. | ||
Just Google it and pull up some studies and some peer-reviewed papers. | ||
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Yeah, that's what we're doing. | |
That's what we did. | ||
You got a phone right in front of you, brother. | ||
Hey, I already did that shit. | ||
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Hey, I started off the conversation with, this is what I heard. | |
I didn't say, this is a fact. | ||
But you said, look it up. | ||
You said, look it up, but you haven't looked it up. | ||
I have, but I'm not saying it's true. | ||
I have looked it up. | ||
I don't know if it's bullshit. | ||
I don't know if it's bullshit. | ||
I don't know. | ||
But, you know what, if I had to choose right now... | ||
DocSecret.com says... | ||
They do say that Swedish jails are probably the best places to be if you get arrested. | ||
Google Swedish eugenics in like the 1930s. | ||
They're not doing that. | ||
Don't do it until Eddie reads it first. | ||
Hey, I didn't say it was true. | ||
I just said, hey, there's some rumors out there. | ||
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There are some rumors. | |
All right? | ||
Here's the second round. | ||
That shit happened. | ||
What if it's true? | ||
Let's see if Eric and Silva can still keep his shit up in the second round. | ||
It explains Gustafsson. | ||
Silva's hands are very low here. | ||
It's very strange. | ||
That's how he fights. | ||
This first, like, two minutes is super dangerous for Neil. | ||
Silva looks like a different... | ||
Get him down. | ||
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Oh! | |
Looking for that spinning back kick to the body but didn't land it. | ||
He looks like he's so open to get punched right in the face. | ||
He doesn't look tired at all. | ||
Well, he's got to think he must have done some serious cardio. | ||
Or he's ignoring his faults. | ||
Magnet looks exhausted. | ||
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Come on. | |
You're so controversial, Eddie. | ||
Magni always looks exactly the same in every fight. | ||
He's always in shape. | ||
Yep. | ||
What does he do for cardio? | ||
He just trains nonstop. | ||
Then his strength coach, Lorne Lando, has him do all these sleds and frickin' sprints. | ||
Has he ever been knocked out? | ||
You know Magni? | ||
No. | ||
I saw him in the video with Kat Singano. | ||
The video training? | ||
Yeah, yeah. | ||
They have a whole crew. | ||
It's like Brandon Thatch, Kat Zingano. | ||
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Oh, right. | |
He got hurt. | ||
Oh, look at that. | ||
He's hurt. | ||
He got hurt to the body there. | ||
Look at that. | ||
Look at that. | ||
That's where cardio comes into play, man. | ||
You recover way faster. | ||
Even from... | ||
How much of an advantage training at Denver, too, right? | ||
Denver, that's got to be an advantage. | ||
You know, that's one of the things I had a conversation with about Nowitzki. | ||
I'm like, what about altitude tents? | ||
How come they're not cheating? | ||
How much of an advantage... | ||
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No! | |
No! | ||
Good uppercut. | ||
But he had a good comeback, Joe, because he goes, I don't think it's that much of an advantage yet. | ||
He's saying it's not the same as EPO. When you travel, and then so you're in Vegas or wherever you're going to fight for a week, all that shit equalizes out in like three days. | ||
What do you mean? | ||
I mean, all the benefits that you have of training at altitude. | ||
Is that true? | ||
Dissipates. | ||
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I don't think so. | |
Within three days. | ||
I heard eight days. | ||
But guess what I did, Tate? | ||
I would bring a hyperbaric chamber with me. | ||
I heard you guys, there's a thing called the internet, before you go on podcasts, and you say, I heard, maybe you should Google this fucking shit along with these goddamn eugenics studies. | ||
That's just ridiculous. | ||
Google Sweden eugenics. | ||
Google Bigfoot. | ||
Oregon Woods. | ||
Dude, that's why they're so beautiful. | ||
Back kick. | ||
They cheated. | ||
Google dong life. | ||
I'm gonna get a tattoo. | ||
Eric's putting it on right now, man. | ||
Should I get a sleeve tattoo? | ||
You should get something on your face. | ||
Maybe teardrops or a heart. | ||
You should get knives everywhere. | ||
You should do what Jason Ellis did. | ||
Just tattoo the whole top of your head. | ||
I'll have a different animal. | ||
Do a tiger. | ||
Like a polar bear. | ||
How about a seal? | ||
I think an octopus. | ||
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A sea cucumber would be the dumbest because nobody would know what it is. | |
It just looks like a big dick. | ||
Oh, he put a dildo on his head. | ||
Does anybody have a snail tattoo? | ||
There's got to be dudes that are obsessed with snails. | ||
Who studies snails? | ||
Snail experts? | ||
I like a good snail. | ||
I like a good snail myself. | ||
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Get on that forum. | |
I like Googling the tattoos that incorporate body parts, like armpits or vaginas or like assholes. | ||
Who's that right there? | ||
Oh, shit. | ||
That's Elliot Marshall and Christian Allen. | ||
Jesus, Brian. | ||
Sorry. | ||
Who's that? | ||
Oh. | ||
He's going to pass. | ||
Oh. | ||
Eric passing. | ||
Oh! | ||
Oh! | ||
He's going to take a guillotine. | ||
Oh! | ||
Look at Neil Magny! | ||
Holy shit, he turned it all around. | ||
That was everything. | ||
The wrist control was everything. | ||
You got a little Hunji right there. | ||
Yep. | ||
And look at this. | ||
Nice narrow stance by Eric Silva. | ||
Catch that breath, son. | ||
Silva's legs look so different. | ||
Yeah, his body looks different for sure. | ||
He doesn't look bad though. | ||
But he's doing well in the fight. | ||
It really could be that he changed up the way he trains. | ||
And he does more conditioning stuff, aerobic stuff, than he does strength stuff. | ||
Physically, he does look different. | ||
Cut or lost a weight. | ||
You know, the other thing he's got to realize, or you've got to, we all do, is that he's a guy who cut a lot of weight to make 170. He probably realized, I can't fucking do that anymore without the IVs. | ||
There's a lot of these guys that are going to have to lose a tremendous amount of weight. | ||
They're going to have to lose like 10 pounds of muscle. | ||
There's a lot of guys that are going to have to lose 10. They're going to be a different person. | ||
Different fighter, different person, different results. | ||
Maybe it'll equal itself out, though, with less weight they had to cut because they already lost a lot of weight. | ||
It might just even itself out. | ||
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Maybe. | |
Less torture to the body, less trauma to the body. | ||
Yeah, that's possible. | ||
That's super possible. | ||
Does Neil Magno have a tough time losing weight? | ||
No. | ||
He literally trains year-round like a gazelle. | ||
Just running nonstop. | ||
Never gets hurt in the gyms? | ||
Never. | ||
That's amazing. | ||
I know, man. | ||
He lived with Nate Markhart for three years. | ||
And sparred with him all the time? | ||
All the time. | ||
Oh, Jesus Christ. | ||
Who do you think won the first round? | ||
Because Eric Silva's got the second round. | ||
I think it's 1-1, probably. | ||
Is he American? | ||
Is he East African? | ||
Well, Magny's an American. | ||
He's from Chicago. | ||
And he was in the service. | ||
I think guys that have been to war and guys that are in the military, there's a different consequence to your discipline. | ||
Like a guy like Tim Kennedy. | ||
He's got a different kind of discipline. | ||
It's like a tried and tested in battle discipline. | ||
I just think there's an advantage to having that. | ||
You just don't see a lot of guys that have that high level discipline and military background get into MMA. You got like Colton Smith. | ||
You got a few guys that have done it. | ||
Stan. | ||
Stan, of course, but Stan and I think Tim Kennedy are the highest profile that fought at the highest level. | ||
You don't have to worry about their mental game at all. | ||
He also doesn't get nervous. | ||
We were talking to him and his buddy was there and he said, you never see me nervous. | ||
He doesn't get nervous, but it kind of makes sense for a guy like Tim Kennedy who's been through such extreme life and death circumstances. | ||
And now it's just a fight, which means you'll break your nose or whatever. | ||
And for him, it's a competition. | ||
It's fun. | ||
Well, what you were saying was the craziest fucking thing when you guys were revealing on your podcast that Kennedy is still involved in military operations. | ||
Tip of the spear stuff. | ||
That's fucking insane. | ||
He just got back from Columbia, I think, a couple weeks ago. | ||
Tip of the spear. | ||
That's fucking crazy. | ||
Insane, man. | ||
That's crazier than his MMA career. | ||
Well, he's in the UFC right now, and he's still involved in special ops shit. | ||
Oh, yeah. | ||
High level stuff. | ||
It's fucking nuts, man. | ||
Not like, you know. | ||
I mean, he talks about, when he talks about it, too, he's like, yeah, go on six missions a night. | ||
Half of them are gunfights. | ||
Like, shit's happening. | ||
His best friend just died. | ||
His best friend died four days ago when we did the interview. | ||
In, like, some operation? | ||
Yeah. | ||
An operation he was involved in, right? | ||
Yeah. | ||
Was he involved in that one? | ||
He wasn't there. | ||
He wasn't there for that one? | ||
Can he talk about that on your podcast? | ||
Yeah, he talked about it. | ||
Do you think he's allowed to? | ||
General. | ||
You can't reveal the details. | ||
But it's amazing that he's still involved in those operations. | ||
It's insane, man. | ||
Eric Silva fucking him up. | ||
Where's my money? | ||
Where's my money? | ||
Every time he kicks that, where's my money? | ||
Where's my money? | ||
When Tim Kennedy knocked out Rafael Natal at the military base, the fight for the troops, that was one of the most emotional moments I have ever seen any fighter ever experience inside the octagon. | ||
It was incredible. | ||
He jumped on top of the cage. | ||
There was no cameras on him. | ||
We had gone to commercial, and he was pointing to each individual people in the audience. | ||
He just kept saying, I love you, I love you, I love all of you, I love you, I love you. | ||
Jesus, man. | ||
They were screaming for him, and he was screaming for them. | ||
There was a bond that he had with those people. | ||
He talks about the level of bonding when you can smell somebody in the dark. | ||
You know what they smell like in the dark. | ||
That's what he said. | ||
He goes, and you've been through life and death situations over and over again. | ||
I don't think that's a big thing. | ||
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Smell. | |
I'm trying to be dramatic right now. | ||
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I'm just glad the dudes like that exist. | |
I'm glad that he exists. | ||
They're the gatekeepers. | ||
You know what? | ||
He's even a different athlete than Jon Jones or any of the top athletes in the UFC. He's a different type of dude. | ||
Oh shit, Eric Silva! | ||
Neil got cracked there. | ||
Oh! | ||
Neil Mackie comes back with a knee. | ||
You know, I'll tell you one thing. | ||
If I was hanging out with Tate and Joe and one of them farted, I would know who farted. | ||
That's all I'm going to say. | ||
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In the dark? | |
In the dark. | ||
Trust me, I would know. | ||
I know you're farting. | ||
Mine might smell, but Tate's might kill you. | ||
Yes, it's my time. | ||
That was a lot of the time, though. | ||
That was, in my defense, that was when Eddie was my dietician. | ||
And we would go to like 7-Eleven before we'd get on a plane and be like, ooh, this one's got malitol in it. | ||
Let's get four of those. | ||
Eat those and sit next to Joey Diaz. | ||
And eat a bunch of kimchi. | ||
Malitol apparently makes you fart. | ||
Look at this, Eric Silva. | ||
See, Magny, man, he just can keep that pace. | ||
The only time Magny's been in trouble, like where he got TKO'd, was on the Ultimate Fighter by Mike Ritchie. | ||
But in his regular UFC career, he's really not been rocked. | ||
No, because his cardio's so damn good. | ||
How's Ritchie doing these days, man? | ||
He's fighting somewhere else, right? | ||
He's fighting in Titan. | ||
Yeah, how's he doing? | ||
Is he doing well? | ||
Yeah, I think he's doing alright. | ||
He's a talented kid. | ||
I always wondered why he never made it back to the UFC. Well, the UFC owns Titan now, right? | ||
So he's fighting with Titan. | ||
Is that a recent deal? | ||
Yeah. | ||
It's not available on Fight Pass. | ||
That's amazing. | ||
Crazy, right? | ||
It's like a feeder league. | ||
It's kind of cool. | ||
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And it's not just that. | |
It's Chuto Brazil's on Fight Pass now. | ||
I think Jason Chambers is doing commentary for Chuto Brazil. | ||
Jason called me. | ||
I've got to text him. | ||
Right now? | ||
Yeah, right now. | ||
Don't do it right now. | ||
All right, I won't now. | ||
Jason, sorry. | ||
One minute 50 to go here. | ||
Neil Magny looking fresh as a daisy. | ||
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Fresh? | |
Come on, he doesn't? | ||
Neil Magny looks fresh as a daisy. | ||
He looks like he's shopping at Whole Foods right now. | ||
He's in such fucking good shape. | ||
Oh my god. | ||
That fucking, look at this. | ||
Easy takedown. | ||
Easy wilting. | ||
The wilting Eric Silva. | ||
Long legs. | ||
This is a big difference between Neil Magny and Eric Silva as far as how much he can keep this up. | ||
It's crazy, that cardio, man. | ||
That is nuts. | ||
Oh, beautiful! | ||
Take down, my friend! | ||
Take down! | ||
Oh, shit! | ||
Is that an Uchimata? | ||
You know what? | ||
That just equalized that shit right there. | ||
Hell yeah. | ||
Stay on top, kid. | ||
Here we go. | ||
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Look at that. | |
You're right the first time. | ||
Nice. | ||
Hey, they equalize each other. | ||
Sort of. | ||
And so far, Eric Silva landed way more shots. | ||
Oh, you're crazy. | ||
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What? | |
They showed the numbers. | ||
It's not even close. | ||
And also, when Maggie just took him down, he hammered him five or six times. | ||
No, he didn't. | ||
And zero strikes here. | ||
What fight are you watching? | ||
I googled eugenics in Sweden. | ||
In the middle of googling eugenics in Sweden, I occasionally looked up when Eric Silva was on a rampage. | ||
Head down like that. | ||
That's a good setup. | ||
I get my information at the library, guys. | ||
I go to the library. | ||
Who goes to the library? | ||
I go to the library. | ||
You guys get your information from the internet. | ||
I go to the library. | ||
I love how you say the internet as if it's all the same source. | ||
I go to the library. | ||
I read books. | ||
There's very different websites on the internet. | ||
Neil is just accurate. | ||
Look at that. | ||
When was the last time somebody went to the library? | ||
Some guy asked me the other day if I wanted to have someone who's a flat earth proponent. | ||
He's apparently the best arguer for a flat earth. | ||
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Come on, bro. | |
I want to hear that. | ||
I want to hear that argument. | ||
What can they possibly say? | ||
No fucking way. | ||
They're either trolling or retarded. | ||
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Trolling. | |
Yes. | ||
You know the one thing that's weird? | ||
Of course it's true, but the one thing that's fucking weird is you would think with all the satellites we have going in and out of our solar system, and how come there's no pictures of the Earth? | ||
Good point. | ||
There are pictures of the Earth. | ||
So many pictures of the Earth. | ||
Good point. | ||
No, I'm with you. | ||
Hey, I don't know! | ||
It's a fact, huh, Brian? | ||
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Google pictures of the Earth. | |
Do it. | ||
You're going to see Earth. | ||
Around Earth. | ||
You're going to see CGI cartoon. | ||
You would think there would be all these weird pictures of the sun here, the moon here, the Earth there, the sun here. | ||
There would be thousands of them. | ||
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I have one of those in my Trapper Keeper when I was a kid. | |
First of all, with the satellites, they're all inside of 400 miles, most of them at least. | ||
And then when you get past that, they usually don't take pictures. | ||
They take a few. | ||
You don't think they would take a bunch of pictures of Earth? | ||
They show the Earth when it's like a little tiny dot in the distance. | ||
Hey, if I'm wrong and there is like thousands of pictures of Earth, there's just all these weird, like, the sun here, the moon here, then hey, I don't know. | ||
I didn't research it. | ||
These people are Earthists. | ||
They're all Earthists. | ||
Why are you arguing with me? | ||
I didn't research it. | ||
But to have a satellite that far out and take pictures, they've only sent a few of those out there. | ||
They've only sent a couple different satellites that deep into space. | ||
No, but sure, there is hundreds of pictures on the internet that you can see of the Earth with the sun in the background, the moon over here, sun in the moon, moon-sun, from this angle. | ||
But, Eddie, you can see the Earth rounded from space. | ||
I'm going to need you to send this round out, Eddie. | ||
Maybe I'm wrong. | ||
Maybe has never been the worst way of beginning that statement. | ||
I just want to see pictures of Earth. | ||
I just want to see pictures of Earth from space. | ||
Where are that? | ||
Where are that? | ||
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I hope this is all bullshit, for sure. | |
Oh, I hope. | ||
Usually I can kind of hear you out, Eddie, but... | ||
Yeah, the Earth is so round. | ||
A bunch of photos. | ||
Aren't those on cartoon photos? | ||
There's the one that they faked in the Apollo 11 moon missions. | ||
How did that happen? | ||
Wait, who won? | ||
Oh, shit! | ||
Bring me my money, Eddie. | ||
Neil Magni brings it home. | ||
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Double or nothing Olivero Holloway? | |
I got Holloway for a grand. | ||
This is the amazing shit. | ||
The pictures of Earth from like... | ||
That could be flat. | ||
Space station type shit. | ||
That could be flat. | ||
That could be flat. | ||
Okay. | ||
There's a bunch of pictures. | ||
Okay. | ||
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Fuck. | |
Is that the guy that did that? | ||
The high-altitude jump? | ||
Is that what that is, Joe? | ||
I think it is. | ||
The Red Bull guy? | ||
That's the Red Bull guy right there? | ||
Eddie, did you ditch third grade? | ||
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Now, did you take that day off when we were talking about Earth? | |
Alright. | ||
Alright, whatever you say. | ||
I love it. | ||
Goddammit! | ||
Maybe I'll just pay you $1,000. | ||
Double or nothing, man. | ||
Maybe I'll just pay you $1,000. | ||
You don't want to keep going? | ||
Dude, $2,000 off some stupid fucking bet? | ||
Well, you could just do the Halle Gravesy method and just pay him in private lessons. | ||
That's pretty good. | ||
Two private lessons. | ||
Be nice, dude. | ||
That is being nice. | ||
Jesus Christ. | ||
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Isn't it? | |
It's not his fault. | ||
It's not? | ||
No, it's all his fault. | ||
Are you sure? | ||
I don't know who to believe. | ||
I don't know what's going on. | ||
Let's not start shit here. | ||
It's not his fault. | ||
So Brian tried poaching athletes from EBI. I knew that. | ||
It's still going on? | ||
I thought you settled that. | ||
Settled what? | ||
I thought you guys are cool now. | ||
Fuck no. | ||
Fuck no. | ||
Really? | ||
Because I heard you guys were cool. | ||
Hey, listen. | ||
I'm not gonna, like, fucking stalk him or anything like that. | ||
Hey, how come he stopped using the crowd? | ||
How come he stopped using the crowd for Hannah Morris? | ||
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Cheaper. | |
He does it in Black House so that they don't have a big overhead now. | ||
So they just get pay-per-view. | ||
Smart. | ||
Think about it. | ||
That's terrible. | ||
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That's like doing stand-up with no audience. | |
That's like having a concert. | ||
Let's have a fucking festival, but let's not have the audience. | ||
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I think that was a terrible idea. | |
Can you imagine doing stand-up with no audience? | ||
Always been practicing in this room. | ||
I'm thinking about doing it alone. | ||
Oh my god. | ||
Just you alone. | ||
Just me, no opening act. | ||
No camera. | ||
No camera. | ||
I'm just going to record it on my iPhone. | ||
If you have a show, if you have an event, and nobody shows up, and no one shows up to be in the audience, no matter what happens, that show sucks. | ||
You know what I mean? | ||
But he's making that happen because he wants it. | ||
He's doing it purposely. | ||
I would say, especially with as boring as a lot of his matches are, that it's nice if you could pan down and go, God, there's Hicks and Gracie. | ||
Or... | ||
I don't think it's a good move. | ||
It's a nice thing to fill. | ||
We're talking about what the UFC should do, what the commission should do, and what this show should do. | ||
I don't think that's a good move for Metamorris. | ||
I want Metamorris to succeed. | ||
I competed in Metamorris. | ||
It's a good thing that we have all these shows. | ||
I'm not against Metamorris. | ||
I just think he's making bad decisions. | ||
That's what I really believe. | ||
And I think the majority agrees with you. | ||
Yeah, you know, and I would love that there's a show out there and there's going to be super fights being put on. | ||
I'm not against that shit. | ||
It's great for Jiu-Jitsu. | ||
It's not going to affect EBI at all. | ||
Here's the thing about EBI, though. | ||
You've thrown a monkey wrench in the whole game with those overtime scenarios. | ||
It makes everything so much better. | ||
You know, first I was like, how is this going to work? | ||
When you tell me about it, I didn't have the vision. | ||
But then the first time I went and saw it live, I went, that's the way. | ||
It's so powerful. | ||
It's the way. | ||
Because you would go through these matches, they would hit 20 minutes, there would be no finish, and that would be the end of it. | ||
But now, there's a finish in a lot of those matches. | ||
And if there's no finish, it's still crazy. | ||
Because you're almost getting finished. | ||
Because you're starting off in a three-quarter position. | ||
You're starting off with your back tape. | ||
It's the best grappling show I've ever been to. | ||
It's by far the best grappling show. | ||
It's the solution to the problem of grappling. | ||
Everyone tells me it's boring. | ||
It is amazing. | ||
Eddie nailed it. | ||
There's no hiding there in that. | ||
It's not just no hiding. | ||
You're put in danger. | ||
You're put in danger. | ||
Like, everybody gets put in danger. | ||
I don't want people to go to overtime and the people, most of the reviews have 90% no shit have been super positive. | ||
It's incredible. | ||
I can't believe it. | ||
That's amazing when you look at the internet. | ||
1, 2, 3, 4. It's incredible. | ||
Just nothing but positive, positive, positive, positive. | ||
And occasionally people will say, I hate the overtime rounds. | ||
They suck. | ||
Because it's not fair that we put, you know, you're going to get a guy who couldn't pass the guard and couldn't get his back naturally. | ||
Now you're going to take me to overtime and And you're going to put that guy on the back who couldn't earn that on his own? | ||
Like, who cares? | ||
We're just trying to make it exciting. | ||
It's gangster. | ||
I want you to hate overtime. | ||
You know what's really funny? | ||
You hear that argument a lot of times from wrestlers. | ||
It's so ironic because wrestling, they'll start on their knees with a guy behind them with one hand on their waist. | ||
What are you talking about? | ||
You start in a disadvantageous position all the time. | ||
It's a big part of high school and college wrestling. | ||
But Eddie, you didn't lose any of your competitors, right? | ||
You guys are all good now. | ||
No, he did. | ||
I did. | ||
Oh, you did pull one. | ||
He went after EBI. When EBI 3 was announced, it was the 170 welterweight and the returning champion was Gary Tonin. | ||
He was coming back for sure. | ||
Dylan Dennis, who I didn't even know who Dylan Dennis was, to be honest with you. | ||
I don't really keep up with what's going on in the gi, IBJJF shit. | ||
I really don't. | ||
You have to be a superstar for me to know who you are. | ||
So Dylan Dennis comes to me. | ||
He comes to my school and says, I want to go into EBI. I want to go against Gary Tonin. | ||
I think I can beat him. | ||
And I didn't even know who he was. | ||
I go, I can't promise you anything, but let me look into you. | ||
And he came and he trained. | ||
And I looked into him like, holy shit, this guy is a Phenom, freak, brown belt, who's killing everybody in absolute... | ||
He just went in gold after gold, just tapping everybody. | ||
I'm like, hell fucking yes. | ||
Texted him and go, you're in, son. | ||
And then they started talking shit. | ||
Gary Tonin and Dylan Dennis on the internet, on Facebook. | ||
I hope I get you in the first round. | ||
So there was some hype building. | ||
I'm like, this is fucking perfect. | ||
And then Hallett comes in and offers Dylan Dennis and Gary Tonin Exclusive contracts. | ||
Dylan bought a bit and Gary said, fuck no. | ||
So, he almost got them both. | ||
Both my top seeds. | ||
He almost got them both. | ||
And I was already hyping the show. | ||
He got Dylan, but he didn't get Gary, thank God. | ||
The show went off and Gary ended up winning and it was a great show and it got great reviews, but But if Gary would have agreed to this, you know, and what Halleck says is, anytime anybody brings this up, he just distracts everybody and says, hey, the UFC does exclusive contracts. | ||
I'm just doing what the UFC's doing. | ||
It's like, it's not about exclusive contracts. | ||
You specifically went after my top two guys in my show, and you tried to ruin my show. | ||
But the UFC, you talk shit on the UFC, then the UFC does that. | ||
What an arrogant guy to think also that you are the UFC. You're not. | ||
You're a guy dying of scarcity. | ||
Stop it. | ||
I thought we were cool. | ||
I actually thought me and Halleck were cool. | ||
I thought we were working together. | ||
I thought, hey, you need submission specialists for your show. | ||
Your show gets a lot of bad reviews because of the boredom. | ||
That's the big problem with jiu-jitsu, just like Joe was saying. | ||
Jiu-jitsu is like, how do you remove the boredom from it? | ||
Because it's like playing chess. | ||
A lot of people are really into chess. | ||
It's a very complicated, sophisticated little game, but you're not going to put it You'll never have it on Fox. | ||
Although the game has a lot of prestige and a lot of respect behind it, but you're never going to see it on TV. Jiu Jitsu is exactly the same way. | ||
Gi Jiu Jitsu is very intricate, very sophisticated, beautiful, the way they're using the Gi to control body, but you're just not gonna put it on TV. It's just too much holding. | ||
It's just not gonna happen. | ||
You can't put, it's like chess. | ||
Even guys who know Jiu Jitsu, I noticed when I've been at Metamorphosis. | ||
Black belts don't even like matches. | ||
They don't even watch it. | ||
They don't even watch it. | ||
Black belt legends don't even keep track of the Mundials. | ||
So that's the problem right there. | ||
You've got to recognize it and go, okay, if we want a show, if we want jiu-jitsu to, let's say, get on TV or get to the highest platform possible, we've got to do everything possible to remove... | ||
The big problem. | ||
The boredom. | ||
The stalling. | ||
What would you suggest? | ||
Would you suggest points for, like, I don't know. | ||
Never points. | ||
Never points. | ||
No matter what point system you come up with, it's a point is a point is a point. | ||
If passing the guard is one point or it's 15 points, it's still you're up, and now there's no urgency to make the move. | ||
Your coaches are going, slow down. | ||
You've got a minute left. | ||
Don't do shit. | ||
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Don't try to fuck you. | |
You pass the guard. | ||
Don't do nothing. | ||
Don't do nothing. | ||
The coaching is stalling. | ||
The athlete, if he's smart, he's stalling. | ||
I feel like you can have five minutes. | ||
That's too short. | ||
You can't have any point system. | ||
Eddie, you did it. | ||
You can't have any point system. | ||
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You figured it out. | |
You fixed it. | ||
You've got to eliminate the points. | ||
You've got anything. | ||
Cal's talking about points over here. | ||
God damn it. | ||
Sorry, guys. | ||
Karate background. | ||
It's got to be submission only. | ||
Taekwondo, bud. | ||
And there had to be an overtime that determined a winner. | ||
You fixed it. | ||
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That's all. | |
You win, Eddie. | ||
What's the next show? | ||
December 13th. | ||
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Austin, Texas. | |
December 13th. | ||
Austin, Texas. | ||
This one's going to be a special one. | ||
I can't... | ||
I'm still piecing it together. | ||
I can't really talk about it. | ||
It's way too early. | ||
Yes. | ||
EBI 5. You can see EBI... Is it true that Halleck's going to compete in yours? | ||
It's absolutely true. | ||
He's going against Brennan Schub. | ||
Putting this out on Twitter. | ||
Putting this out on Twitter. | ||
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Tweet it! | |
Tweet it! | ||
It's so easy. | ||
All I'm trying to do, I'm just trying to make jujitsu entertaining for the masses. | ||
And you're doing it. | ||
That's all I'm trying to do. | ||
But hey, Eddie, you're about to lose two grand on this main event, my man. | ||
I didn't agree to that. | ||
You got glasses on, bro. | ||
I love that he's wearing glasses right now. | ||
You know what? | ||
Fuck it. | ||
Will you take a check? | ||
Will you take a check? | ||
Cash or a check, my man? | ||
You will take a check? | ||
For sure. | ||
Because I don't have the cash. | ||
It's kind of weird that Oliveira comes out with glasses on. | ||
Okay, we'll do it. | ||
You would think that, you know... | ||
If he has vision issues, he should have corrected that. | ||
Are they that bad? | ||
I mean, it's weird that his vision issues are so bad that he wants to wear his glasses up until the time he gets in the octagon. | ||
He's probably getting paid for it. | ||
You know Justin Gaethje? | ||
He's the World Series of Fighting world champ at 170. 55, right? | ||
55, yeah. | ||
He has these glasses. | ||
You take him off, he couldn't recognize you. | ||
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Really? | |
He has to squint so bad. | ||
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Wow. | |
It's crazy. | ||
Was it something he was born with? | ||
No, he just has horrible eyes. | ||
So you have to wear glasses. | ||
Do fighters not fight with contacts? | ||
You have to tell the condition. | ||
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They can't fight with contacts or LASIK. They used to fight with contacts. | |
Really? | ||
What? | ||
Not with LASIK either? | ||
No. | ||
They ask if you've had it. | ||
It's supposed to be banned, yeah. | ||
Well, LASIK, there's two different ways of doing it. | ||
And LASIK is the most vulnerable way. | ||
There's another way of doing it that it takes longer to heal. | ||
And it's like actual surgery. | ||
It starts with a P, right? | ||
I don't remember. | ||
There's two different... | ||
I might be even saying wrong about Lasix is more vulnerable. | ||
But there's two different ways. | ||
And the more common way, you're not supposed to have contact sports. | ||
Because if you get rocked, that stitching or the tearing, wherever the cut, the scar tissue, could open up and you're fucked. | ||
Now he's crying. | ||
Look at how emotional he is. | ||
That's usually a bad sign. | ||
He was like in Rapture. | ||
Yeah, he's probably listening to some Jesus music or something. | ||
Do you know why it doesn't hurt when they laser your eyes? | ||
Legit point, right? | ||
Legit point. | ||
Why? | ||
Why doesn't it hurt? | ||
You don't believe you have nerve endings in your eyes. | ||
You know why I believe that? | ||
Because when I go in the cryo chamber, my eyes never hurt. | ||
They don't even get cold. | ||
You're burning them with lasers, and you're awake. | ||
You're conscious. | ||
I had LASIK. It was pretty freaky, my man. | ||
Freaky, but not painful. | ||
Wait a minute. | ||
You had LASIK, and you can't fight anymore, then? | ||
Well, no. | ||
I never told him I did it. | ||
Well, you just did, you fuck. | ||
Jesus Christ. | ||
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Oh, no. | |
Now it's over. | ||
What am I gonna do? | ||
First Reebok, now this! | ||
Dude, they're gonna sue you. | ||
MMA media, Brendan Schaub lies under oath about LASIK. I got it when I was playing football. | ||
Oh my God, so you lied a lot. | ||
And then when they asked, I said, no. | ||
What are you going to do? | ||
Oh my God. | ||
What are you going to do now? | ||
Maybe you're kidding about getting a license. | ||
You might be kidding about getting it. | ||
I think you're kidding about it. | ||
Maybe I'm lying. | ||
Maybe he's lying. | ||
This is all for entertainment, folks. | ||
That's it. | ||
I don't really think Conor McGregor doesn't have the legitimate, international, intermediate, intermittent belts. | ||
You're crazy. | ||
I don't think that's a headline. | ||
I got my hope against a headline. | ||
I want to keep this party going. | ||
Literally all of them are like... | ||
We got record downloads last time. | ||
Is it possible for... | ||
Our downloads can't get any bigger. | ||
I better start doing some research. | ||
We're getting millions of downloads for this show. | ||
Jesus. | ||
Is it possible for Joey Diaz to do an impression of Conor McGregor? | ||
Is that even possible? | ||
Yeah, it would be possible. | ||
Joey would have to watch him, but if Joey... | ||
No, I'm talking about you doing an impression of Joey doing an impression of Conor McGregor. | ||
We're not here to take pot, cocksucker. | ||
We're here to take over. | ||
Who's done what I've done? | ||
Who's done what I've done? | ||
Who the fuck has done what I've done? | ||
I'm doing this shit for Ireland, dog! | ||
What the fuck? | ||
Think about what I've done. | ||
What the fuck, Eddie Bravo? | ||
I love how he calls your full name. | ||
Brendan Sharp. | ||
What's going on, Brendan Sharp? | ||
Joe does the best. | ||
Joe is old school. | ||
Joe's impressions are world class. | ||
And if you've ever heard him do a Porsche or a Rottweiler, it's about as good as it gets. | ||
Can you do a Porsche right now? | ||
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Or a pair. | |
What's a Porsche? | ||
No, Porsche. | ||
Come on, please. | ||
911? | ||
Come on. | ||
No. | ||
Hold on. | ||
I'll tell you what. | ||
He does an amazing bear. | ||
He does a sick Grizzly. | ||
He does a sick Kodiak and a sick Rockwell. | ||
I can do a couple noises. | ||
I got a good grizzly too. | ||
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That's that? | |
Your grizzly's inhaling. | ||
That's a monster. | ||
That's the abdominal snowman. | ||
That's that bitch from that movie, was it The Ring? | ||
That's actually Bigfoot. | ||
That's actually Bigfoot. | ||
That's the real Bigfoot? | ||
That's Noguera's joints when he wakes up in the morning. | ||
Oh my god. | ||
Didn't you say that Noguera has to have someone work on his back for over an hour before he actually works out? | ||
Warm-ups, yeah. | ||
What does he do? | ||
He gets a Thai girl to walk on his hamstrings. | ||
Yeah, he has to do all sorts of stuff. | ||
And everyone told me when I was fighting, I'd be like, bro, don't worry, it takes him an hour just to get ready. | ||
I'm like, I don't give a fuck. | ||
Wow. | ||
This is a great fucking fight we're about to watch here. | ||
It's a good fight. | ||
By the way, how fun are these goddamn fight companions? | ||
The best, man. | ||
I was looking forward to this all day. | ||
I was immersed in girl activities, my daughters and my wives, all this girl, girl, girl shit, and I'm looking at that clock in six hours. | ||
I get to be a man. | ||
I get to be a man again! | ||
Dude, it's almost over. | ||
We got 15 minutes of manhood. | ||
We can talk manly shit, talk shit to each other. | ||
Brian's gonna take us to dinner. | ||
Dude, I watched The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills today. | ||
I was working out in my little gym, and it was on, and I watched it, and watched these bitches scream at each other, and watched these girls turn at each other, and I'm like, how bizarre is this behavior, and how bizarre are these women? | ||
I'll watch that shit. | ||
I will watch that shit. | ||
I just saw a new one advertised. | ||
The hot girls of Las Vegas, or the hot wives of Las Vegas. | ||
You're talking about wags. | ||
Wives and girlfriends of celebrities? | ||
No, man. | ||
I just saw it on a bus the other day. | ||
Hot Wives in Las Vegas. | ||
That's on VH1, son. | ||
There's probably so many shows. | ||
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It's nice because they're tired of wives. | |
Nobody wants that anymore. | ||
Well, if they fight, it's good. | ||
Here's an old beat-up bitch that's torturing some poor guy that sucked into this existence. | ||
Sorry, nobody wants to see the hot housewives. | ||
There's a lot of that. | ||
Tate Fletcher has spoken. | ||
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Damn. | |
People getting drowned. | ||
This is very important. | ||
So who's up right now? | ||
Who's up? | ||
Somebody just posted the main event. | ||
But who was up in the betting here between you two? | ||
Oh, me. | ||
He's going to owe him $3,000. | ||
On which fight? | ||
Double or nothing now. | ||
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Double or nothing. | |
Would you bet on Magni? | ||
Did you bet on the Magni fight? | ||
Yeah, Magni. | ||
You won $1,000 from the Magni fight? | ||
No, no, $500. | ||
Nah, betting another $1,000. | ||
But we had another $500. | ||
I'm going under. | ||
Because remember, Joe, I won the $500 on Glover OSB fight. | ||
I'm fucked here. | ||
Damn, you bet against Glover. | ||
What do you guys think about Glover vs Pat Collins? | ||
It's a tough fight. | ||
What do you think about that fight? | ||
Two sick wrestlers. | ||
Maybe we keep double or nothing until I win. | ||
That's too much for Pat. | ||
Is that cool? | ||
Too much for Pat as in just Glover? | ||
That's a big statement about how you feel about Glover. | ||
I love Pat, man. | ||
I love Pat. | ||
He's my closest training partner when I was fighting, you know? | ||
If I could pick a horrible matchup for him, it would be Glover. | ||
I don't know how he's going to win, man. | ||
And that breaks my heart to say it. | ||
Super impressed with Glover vs. | ||
OSP. Super impressed. | ||
A veteran, man. | ||
He's a monster. | ||
Sits from the cut, like, relaxed. | ||
Here it goes. | ||
Oh, you're an amazing athlete with those crazy kicks? | ||
That's fine. | ||
Well, not the only chance, but a good chance that Pat can mimic is when he fought Phil Davis in Brazil. | ||
But that was a Glover who was kind of like all worn down, was like eating fucking just veggies or some shit. | ||
Also, he was coming off of that, he's only eating veggies? | ||
I made that up. | ||
He looked like shit. | ||
He was coming off the Jon Jones fight, and he hurt his shoulder pretty bad in that fight. | ||
I don't know what he did to fix it. | ||
He never went through surgery. | ||
He didn't look good. | ||
Remember Phil just hung on him, wore him out? | ||
So, I mean, Pat could do that for sure. | ||
He was training for that fight in Connecticut in a garage, remember? | ||
Like by himself. | ||
Yeah, they heard the countdown shows, and they showed him riding a stationary bike, listening to ABBA. And that's it. | ||
What was like 37? | ||
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That's it. | |
Is he 37? | ||
Glover is not young. | ||
He looks every bit of 45. This is not 37 from six years ago when you could do stuff and get away with it. | ||
This is a legit 37. And that's not good. | ||
Legit 37 is every boxer that's ever been good ever except for George Foreman is done. | ||
These guys are the same guy. | ||
Except Bernard Hopkins. | ||
But we don't know what Bernard Hopkins is doing as far as growth and stuff like that. | ||
If people don't think he's ever taken something, you're fucking crazy. | ||
At 50? | ||
He's 50. He's 50 and he's still winning. | ||
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Who's 50? | |
Bernard Hopkins. | ||
And by the way, his body does look different. | ||
It does look different. | ||
But that may be, in many ways, one of the greatest sporting feats we've seen before. | ||
Period. | ||
You know what else is good, too? | ||
He doesn't seem to be diminished as far as his ability to talk. | ||
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He's a very good announcer. | |
Yeah, he's a good announcer. | ||
Not bad. | ||
He's never been hurt. | ||
Remember that. | ||
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He's very good for being 50. Yeah. | |
For a fighter, yes. | ||
He's never been hurt. | ||
Here we go. | ||
Here we go, Max Holloway and Oliveira. | ||
See, I feel like Oliveira is more technical, standing up, and I think he's way better on the ground. | ||
But I think Holloway is so damn scrappy. | ||
Yeah, he lets it go. | ||
He's so confident, and he's so wild. | ||
Like, right there, I love that. | ||
Right hook to the body, and then straight left afterwards. | ||
I was just so impressed with the way he took it to Cub, kept moving, wore him out, hurt him a couple times, almost finished him once, and then finished him again. | ||
Look at the body shots, though. | ||
He's going right to the body like that. | ||
He's an animal, man. | ||
Max Holloway's a bad motherfucker. | ||
And the other thing about Holloway is he's young. | ||
Super young. | ||
23. When you get a guy like that, you're seeing him every six months. | ||
You're seeing a way better version. | ||
Look at his defense. | ||
Look at that defense. | ||
Crazy. | ||
So you can't even judge him by who he used to be six months ago. | ||
Agreed. | ||
Because he's probably way better now. | ||
I think Charles is more dangerous. | ||
I just think Max is... | ||
I think he puts it together better. | ||
That's why I think Mack's going to win. | ||
I think he just throws it all out there. | ||
He's like, I'm just going to put all my training together. | ||
I'm going to throw everything at him right now. | ||
I'm not wasting shots. | ||
Caution to the wind. | ||
I'm having TJ Burrell flashbacks. | ||
They have a common opponent, Cub Swanson. | ||
Cub Swanson lit Charles Oliveira on fire. | ||
And Max Holloway... | ||
Yeah... | ||
He stopped him early in the first round. | ||
And then, of course, Max Holloway just got the biggest win. | ||
Damn, he pulled a card. | ||
Something was wrong with Cub when they fought. | ||
Didn't he get hurt in the first round? | ||
I'm not taking anything away from Max. | ||
What happened? | ||
Oh, shit. | ||
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His fight's over. | |
Broke his collarbone? | ||
Oh, shit. | ||
Oh, fuck. | ||
Oh, no way. | ||
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Really? | |
Pay me my money. | ||
Damn! | ||
One can't put his arm down at her. | ||
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. | ||
What's going on there, man? | ||
He dislocated his shoulder. | ||
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The camera pulled away from him immediately. | |
Wow, powerful Max Holloway. | ||
That's too bad. | ||
It would have been fun to see him go. | ||
Yeah, it was shaping up to be an interesting fight, but Holloway was teeing up on him already. | ||
God damn. | ||
I think I just lost 20 bucks. | ||
Yeah, man, you did. | ||
I'm down 2,000. | ||
Eddie lost 2 grand. | ||
Look at this. | ||
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Holy fuck. | |
His collarbone is shattered. | ||
Oh fuck, man. | ||
What's up, Bomber? | ||
You don't want to see that go out like that. | ||
Can we get a replay or something? | ||
Yeah. | ||
Give us some volume, son. | ||
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Give us some volume, you know, Jamie, so we can find out what they're saying. | |
Why are his wings tattooed differently? | ||
One's a devil, one's an angel, bro. | ||
Obviously. | ||
He's not sure where he's going. | ||
He just stopped and went, I'm done. | ||
Oh, God. | ||
Yeah, well, he's a smart dude. | ||
He must have known something was cracked. | ||
Write my check, he says. | ||
Well, you can't ask for a performance bonus for that. | ||
Guy got injured. | ||
Definitely not. | ||
That's kind of silly. | ||
That's a bummer. | ||
Let's see what happened here. | ||
Although, it was an interesting fight. | ||
So he shoots him and hits the fucking... | ||
Pulls it up, rips his shoulder. | ||
Oh, he hurt it right there? | ||
Right there. | ||
Yeah, look, look, look, look, look, look. | ||
No, no, no. | ||
No? | ||
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Yeah. | |
No, no, no. | ||
This is something else. | ||
This is something else. | ||
Oh, no, no, no. | ||
He gets up. | ||
Yep, yep, that's it. | ||
Something pulled a little bit. | ||
No, no, no. | ||
Eddie, that's off. | ||
I'm not going to charge you too bad for that. | ||
Oh, you're a beautiful person. | ||
Look at this. | ||
So he's been shooting for the takedown. | ||
Shooting for the takedown. | ||
I would think he broke it, and then he didn't really feel the extent of it until he stood up. | ||
Well, let's be quiet. | ||
Let's give us some volume. | ||
Maybe we can hear. | ||
Jamie, give us more volume. | ||
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Wow. | |
You know what? | ||
I'll take whatever bet. | ||
You make the next bet, and it'll be double or nothing. | ||
You pick. | ||
Let's hear what they're saying. | ||
Main event. | ||
Hold on, shh. | ||
I don't know where Sean Shelby went, but I'll find them. | ||
Let's circle a date, put these two back on, and put them back in a main event. | ||
Let's run this one back. | ||
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Yeah, stung silence here in Saskatoon. | |
And hopefully Oliveira. | ||
That's weird. | ||
It seems like he's grabbing his neck, man. | ||
That's a collarbone thing though, right? | ||
I don't know. | ||
Well, it's fucked up that his nose started bleeding immediately when he did that. | ||
Shit. | ||
It doesn't look good, guys. | ||
It doesn't look like... | ||
Yeah, no shit. | ||
That was a neck thing. | ||
It wasn't like his collarbone. | ||
His coach kept going like this. | ||
Behind him kept going like this. | ||
Carotid artery or something. | ||
Fuck. | ||
That's a bummer. | ||
That doesn't count. | ||
All bets off on that. | ||
Well, you're a beautiful person. | ||
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Wow. | |
Because Eddie Bravo would have stuffed it right up your ass. | ||
I want to do the same thing. | ||
That's not a real fight. | ||
That's not a real fight. | ||
Well, it was a real fight, but I'll tell you what, I was super impressed with Holloway before that. | ||
Before the ending, he was really landing some nice shots. | ||
He was bringing it in. | ||
Moving really well, staying safe. | ||
Motherfuckers getting better. | ||
He could be the champ. | ||
Holloway could be the champ. | ||
I agree. | ||
He's my dark horse in that division. | ||
What's the next UFC? Dodson Johnson? | ||
Well, it has to be on a companion, though. | ||
Okay. | ||
So we gotta figure it out. | ||
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Damn. | |
Okay. | ||
Damn. | ||
What a fucking... | ||
His fucking collarbone fell off. | ||
Well, we hope that's what happened. | ||
I'm nervous that he was grabbing his neck. | ||
Yeah. | ||
I'm nervous that his neck's fucked up. | ||
Is there any truth to that? | ||
You can get hit in the neck there, like judo shots. | ||
Those judo shots. | ||
And get fucked up. | ||
You saw The Man of Mystery. | ||
What do you mean? | ||
Austin Powers. | ||
You can get hit in the neck and knocked out. | ||
Oh, well, for sure. | ||
Kicks. | ||
Holy cow. | ||
In the movies with the gun, they take the gun and go pshh. | ||
That's gotta be real. | ||
Aubrey's talking about like the judo chop and hit them and they pass out, right? | ||
Well, apparently there's that movie about that cult leader that just came out and he killed somebody with judo chops, apparently. | ||
The Source Family? | ||
Really? | ||
This is the guy from the Source Family, yeah. | ||
I don't know what that is. | ||
He killed a guy with judo chops and then started a cult with a bunch of hot chicks who wore white and he banged them all. | ||
What the fuck? | ||
There are no chops in judo, but you know what I mean? | ||
We always say that. | ||
It's in the newspaper clip. | ||
In old judo, there was Brian. | ||
Well, I saw the Flintstones and they said, Fred Flintstone said, a judo, a judo, a chop, chop, chop. | ||
No, it comes from Austin Powers. | ||
Judo, chop. | ||
No, no, no. | ||
It does not. | ||
It comes from Fred Flintstone. | ||
My decade, it comes from Austin Powers. | ||
Austin Powers is a thief. | ||
He stole that shit from Fred Flintstone. | ||
Look up Source Family judo chops. | ||
Alright, perfect. | ||
Judo chops. | ||
Hey, let's hear it. | ||
Give us some volume. | ||
Give us some volume. | ||
That's a bummer, man. | ||
Volume. | ||
Let's hear the official... | ||
set of nipples on him. | ||
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Oh, come on. | |
Why are they calling that TKO? That's ridiculous. | ||
Why not medical stoppage? | ||
Well, do they revise that if they find out what happened to his neck? | ||
I don't know. | ||
Or his collarbone or whatever? | ||
Let's see what he says. | ||
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Hey, you know, I want to do like BJ and be the champ. | |
Bring it home. | ||
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in every wake glass so what what what is going on with Olivera We don't know what the hell... | |
Yeah, I'm trying to see it. | ||
Fuck, now that's scary, him saying that? | ||
Kenny Florence says Charles Olivia hurt his neck when he went headfirst into the cage. | ||
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Whoa. | |
For sure, he better not have stopped because it was Stinger. | ||
Lose my number if you stopped because it was Stinger. | ||
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Right. | |
Lose my number. | ||
He doesn't have your number. | ||
First of all, he doesn't even speak English. | ||
You'd be surprised. | ||
So if he called, he'd be like... | ||
You'd be surprised. | ||
You talk a lot of shits about Brazil. | ||
On the Brazilian internet, they released all his information so everybody can hate him. | ||
Oh, I get death threats from Brazilians all the time. | ||
One of the coolest moments was, you know, working for the UFC, you're running into these famous fighters all the time, and when Noguera first came over, we started talking, and we exchanged numbers, and I thought it was the craziest shit that I'm exchanging numbers with fucking Noguera. | ||
It was so weird. | ||
We've never, like, exchanged any texts or anything after that. | ||
It was kind of like this, but it was... | ||
Really strange. | ||
You know who I said that Sam Stout retired? | ||
Yeah. | ||
His opponent retired. | ||
It's his opponent, the 26-year-old opponent, not Sam. | ||
His first UFC fight knocks out Sam Stout and says, I'm done. | ||
Hey, tight move. | ||
Just wanted to get there, knock the guy out. | ||
Peace, bitches! | ||
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Save that head trauma for your mama. | |
Save that head trauma for your mama. | ||
Not a bad idea. | ||
That's a good t-shirt, Brendan. | ||
Save that head trauma for your mama. | ||
Let's see if the UG has a... | ||
Oh, here it is. | ||
Here's the man who killed somebody with judo chops. | ||
Judo chops. | ||
Looks like Justin Wren. | ||
He also calls himself Father Yod. | ||
Father Yod. | ||
Holloway wins with the judo chop. | ||
Abandoned his first wife and daughter to ride to Hollywood on a motorcycle in addition for the role of Tarzan. | ||
Well... | ||
Yeah, well, he may or may not have killed someone with judo chops. | ||
Sounds like a sociopath. | ||
He may have shot him. | ||
Killed a man. | ||
Killed a man. | ||
Abandoned his daughter, but then killed a man. | ||
So, well, and auditioned for Tarzan. | ||
There's a lot of judo chops. | ||
Not my guy. | ||
It seems like your life. | ||
Eugenics. | ||
I'm jealous. | ||
Eugenics? | ||
Oh, no. | ||
Somebody said something to theeconomist.com to me about it. | ||
Swedish eugenics, 1930s. | ||
Somebody was on your side, on my... | ||
Timeline? | ||
Is it real? | ||
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It's for real? | |
He also robbed 11 banks. | ||
He robbed 11 banks. | ||
He sounds like a real peach. | ||
Still free though. | ||
Still free and running. | ||
In his cult, they made one of the doctrines was you had to smoke weed for exactly seven second pulls from the bong. | ||
I was like, in the commandments, you had to go. | ||
That's hilarious. | ||
And then they would do kundalini yoga and get all high and then fuck each other. | ||
That's hilarious. | ||
I don't see anything. | ||
That's hilarious. | ||
That part. | ||
Yeah, we're trying to find out what happened to Charles Oliveira, but I'm scared, man. | ||
I don't like that. | ||
No, I don't like that at all. | ||
That's a bummer to say. | ||
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Garbage. | |
Because if you're all amped up with adrenaline and sweating and your neck gets hurt that bad, you're stopping. | ||
Especially early on. | ||
Early on, you have the nerves, like you said, all the adrenaline. | ||
Turn the volume up. | ||
What's Michael Bisping saying? | ||
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saying because he had some significant neck problems Look at that dapper fucking Englishman. | |
Beautiful hair. | ||
He's a handsome guy. | ||
That right eye looks a little suspect. | ||
Oh yeah, he's got some serious problems with his eye. | ||
He's got oil in his eye. | ||
Look at this, look at this, look at this. | ||
He's like, dude, dude, dude. | ||
At least he didn't punch him in the face there. | ||
But he did hit him. | ||
He's going, no, no, no, I'm done, I'm done. | ||
He's like, oh wait, here's one for your liver. | ||
You're not done yet, bitch. | ||
So they sent me this thing for Eddie, and they go, between 35 and 76, no fewer than 60,000 young Swedish women deemed mentally defective or otherwise handicapped to a degree, which makes them, quote, incapable of looking after their children or sterilized. | ||
Well, that's not quite the same as looking bad, but continue. | ||
They were ugly. | ||
They cut them out. | ||
I'm on your side, brother. | ||
The internet's with you. | ||
The internet. | ||
Apparently they were judged by the symmetry of their face. | ||
The internet is mad. | ||
They thought that the symmetry of your face determined how... | ||
Is that what it says online or are you just guessing? | ||
No, economist.com here. | ||
I'm just guessing. | ||
They did study faces to see if they had any correlation to criminal behavior. | ||
That was like skulls, right? | ||
Phrenology. | ||
Of course, that turned out to be complete shit. | ||
They found out ugly people were committing crimes. | ||
They did look into it, right? | ||
There's a way you could look at someone's face and say they're a criminal. | ||
Of course, there's no science to it at all. | ||
Of course, but they did it. | ||
It was actually considered a science for a while. | ||
In Sweden. | ||
I think it was actually in the United States. | ||
I'm not going to lie to you guys. | ||
That main event bummed me out, man. | ||
They did that in Sweden. | ||
That main event bummed me out. | ||
It was definitely a war. | ||
It bums me out because I'm worried about that dude's neck. | ||
That's real unusual, man. | ||
Joe Riggs was the last time that happened when Joe went down from that takedown. | ||
But Joe's so battered and beat up, I just figured it was probably an old injury. | ||
Yeah, Charles is young, man. | ||
Yeah, man. | ||
Well, we don't know. | ||
We never know. | ||
You got out of this one, Eddie. | ||
I'll give you that, my man. | ||
Well, you got out because you let him out. | ||
Yeah, I'll pay you if you want me to. | ||
No, I don't want that tainted money. | ||
Okay, next fight companion, you pick the main event. | ||
If it's close, if it's like Ronda vs. | ||
Holly, we can't do that. | ||
I'll take Holly home. | ||
There's no way he's going to do a fight companion for Ronda Rousey. | ||
I can't. | ||
I'll be there. | ||
I'll be there for that one for sure. | ||
Unless it's in Yugoslavia. | ||
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I was just making an exaggeration point here. | |
They decided to do it in Chechnya. | ||
What about when's Barnett Roy Nelson? | ||
In Japan, there's no way you're going to that show. | ||
No, not happening. | ||
But I might be on the road. | ||
I don't know. | ||
It's always tough. | ||
That's the only thing that came to my mind. | ||
It's tough to get us all together. | ||
The stars align every now and then. | ||
But it's good enough. | ||
Every now and then, yeah. | ||
It's every now and then. | ||
And people are like, yeah, you guys talk over each other and you shit on each other. | ||
Yes, that's what we do. | ||
Yes, we do. | ||
That's what friends do. | ||
But it's amazing how controlled it is, even in this atmosphere. | ||
Booze, weed, a lot. | ||
It's amazing that Brian Cowen still tries to give jiu-jitsu advice. | ||
Push down on the knee. | ||
The first thing I say, butter your chin, push down on the knee. | ||
That's when he sat down. | ||
Inverted triangle, he said, oh, what you need to do in front of Eddie Brown. | ||
It's annoying that people don't know that. | ||
You were the most qualified talking about most handsome man, though. | ||
No, no, I know that. | ||
You're the games guy in this room, for sure. | ||
100%, 100%, 100%. | ||
But, I mean, and we still really haven't gotten down to it, because you've got to go, Luke, you've got to go your boy, Juban. | ||
Also, I think what you're going to need to do in order to really have a definitive idea... | ||
We're literally out of time. | ||
We're probably done, right? | ||
Yeah, we're already done. | ||
We're done. | ||
This is at three hours. | ||
Eddie Bravo on Twitter. | ||
Aubrey Marcus on Twitter. | ||
Brian Cowan with a Y on Twitter. | ||
Tatumus Maximus on... | ||
No, Tate Fletcher, fool. | ||
Oh, back! | ||
Come on. | ||
You've got it back. | ||
Come on. | ||
Who's got Tatum as Maximus? | ||
You two? | ||
I double up, but I don't ever look at that shit. | ||
The other one you should post like ridiculous shit. | ||
It's just to be dead. | ||
Just post shit. | ||
Eddie sends me. | ||
That's it. | ||
Brendan Schaub in the motherfucking house. | ||
I'll show you. | ||
Fighter and the Kid. | ||
When are you going to bring back Eddie Bravo Radio? | ||
That's a good question. | ||
Alright. | ||
Pirate Life Podcast. | ||
Pirate Life Podcast. | ||
On It Podcast. | ||
Warrior Project. | ||
Alright. | ||
That's it, fuckers. | ||
We'll be back soon. | ||
And we're probably going to do an On It one from Texas this week. | ||
Aubrey and I are going to go slay pigs. | ||
That's right. | ||
Not cops. | ||
That's rude. | ||
I don't call cops pigs. | ||
But real wild pigs. | ||
Oliveira's neck is braced and he's on a stretcher. | ||
They're taking out back. | ||
He's still grabbing at his neck. | ||
Whoa. | ||
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Bummer. | |
They will not resign him. | ||
Oh my god. | ||
Fuck. | ||
Alright. | ||
Well, all of our hopes and wishes are for Oliveira. | ||
You know, send him some love. | ||
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That's horrible. | |
That sucks. | ||
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For sure. | |
All right, folks. | ||
Thanks for tuning in. | ||
And that's it. | ||
We'll see you soon. |