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Aug. 19, 2015 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #686 - Jeff Ross
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joe rogan
*crickets* We're live Good googly moogly, Jeff Ross.
Push that fucker up to your face and say hello to the world.
jeff ross
Hello, world.
joe rogan
Are you taking off the...
No headphones for you?
jeff ross
You're a rebel.
joe rogan
You're a rebel.
You don't give a fuck.
jeff ross
You look great, buddy.
joe rogan
You look great as well, fellow black belt in Taekwondo.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
I saw a picture of you when you were a little kid.
Somebody posted it up on my message board.
What are you, like the youngest black belt in New Jersey or something crazy like that?
jeff ross
Yeah.
Second, yep.
Second in the country.
joe rogan
You fucking savage.
You were dropping some knowledge about all of this.
We started the podcast up quickly.
Look at that.
Look at that fucking...
unidentified
Wow.
That's crazy.
joe rogan
Badass little kid.
brian redban
I never knew that.
jeff ross
I'm ten and a half in that picture.
joe rogan
Karate chomping bitches.
jeff ross
Am I still a black belt, Joe, technically, if it doesn't fit around my waist anymore?
joe rogan
You are.
You have earned it.
Whether or not you're at black belt level or not, that's debatable.
But you have earned your black belt.
So you are a black belt.
It's like a Marine.
jeff ross
I love that.
joe rogan
Once you go back, you never go back.
We started the podcast up abruptly because we were talking about...
jeff ross
Wait, one question for you.
How do you think being a black belt has affected your comedy?
joe rogan
I don't know.
None.
Not at all.
jeff ross
I don't think I would have the confidence to talk shit if I didn't get a black belt early on.
joe rogan
Really?
jeff ross
Yeah.
joe rogan
It probably helps something.
jeff ross
Come on, of course.
joe rogan
For sure, in that way.
jeff ross
There's no doubt about it.
joe rogan
Well, it definitely helps, like, you not be worried about confrontation as much.
jeff ross
Well, at least, yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, for sure.
jeff ross
It's like having that, uh...
What do they have around Israel?
joe rogan
Cone of silence?
jeff ross
No.
The, uh...
A dome, something dome.
joe rogan
They have a dome in Israel?
jeff ross
Yeah, it's like a defense system.
joe rogan
Oh, I see.
Right, right, right.
So you have a defense system.
jeff ross
In place.
It might be a little rusty and a little, you know, in need of some tune-up, but it's there.
joe rogan
Well, anybody that would, most of the time, anybody that would hackle you or think about attacking you, usually they're so fucking stupid.
Like the vast majority of hecklers are so goddamn dumb.
But I've been around so many people that can kick my ass, I don't feel very confident.
You know, working for the UFC, I'm just constantly around people that could just fuck me up anytime.
I don't feel very confident, like with regular people maybe, but just I'm too humbled by my job.
jeff ross
I've been working with a bunch of fighters.
joe rogan
Yeah?
What have you been doing with him?
jeff ross
Joe Daddy?
Do you know who that is?
joe rogan
Stevenson.
Yeah, Joe Stevenson.
jeff ross
He's the mentor and fighting coach for the show Kingdom.
This is all about MMA fighters.
An underground scene.
joe rogan
That's that DirecTV show, right?
unidentified
Uh-huh.
joe rogan
Isn't Callen on that?
unidentified
Uh-huh.
joe rogan
Brian Callen's on that.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
That's cool that DirecTV's doing their own programming.
That's nice.
There's so many different avenues for programming now.
It's pretty fucking badass.
jeff ross
They make the show, and then they show the show, and now it's on iTunes.
And I'm on the next season.
It's a cool thing, because...
It's fun to see the fight world get dramatized.
It's like Friday Night Lights for...
joe rogan
For fights?
jeff ross
Right.
joe rogan
Are they good scenes, though?
jeff ross
Very realistic.
Of course, as a fan, you're going to...
Fans would roll their eyes and go, how realistic could it be?
I've only been to one fight.
It was the one you and Ari invited me to.
joe rogan
Which one was that?
Do you remember?
jeff ross
In Vancouver a few years back.
Hmm.
joe rogan
I have to think of who was fighting there.
jeff ross
Might have been Turner.
joe rogan
That sounds like...
I think it was Jon Jones.
Was it Jon Jones?
jeff ross
I can't remember, man.
joe rogan
Jon...
John Jones and Gustafson?
Was that Vancouver?
jeff ross
My jaw was dropping at the blood.
unidentified
It's crazy.
jeff ross
I had never been.
So now these fight scenes, we shoot at night, so it's very realistic, and it's surprisingly authentic.
It's all real fighters and boxers fighting the actors on this show.
Nick Jonas...
Music superstar.
joe rogan
One of the Jonas Brothers on the show?
jeff ross
Not one of the Jonas Brothers.
Like, the guy who's got the number one music career right now is also playing a fighter, and he's a total badass.
Really?
It sounds crazy, but he's ripped.
He's in these scenes for six, seven hours a night, two, three nights in a row, shooting just the fight scenes.
Then the next day, or all day, he's got to do, like, actual dramatic acting, but...
The fights are really well done.
They're raw.
People get hurt.
There's a lot of real blood mixed with the acting blood, you know?
joe rogan
So this is him right here?
Look at this fucking stud.
jeff ross
I'm telling you, man.
I was so impressed.
joe rogan
Looks like TJ Wahlberger.
jeff ross
I play a sleazy promoter that hires him even though he's on a medical leave from fighting.
joe rogan
He's a handsome bastard.
Does he actually know martial arts?
jeff ross
He is very believable as a fighter.
Like, some of the fighters said he's as good...
Joe Daddy actually told me this.
I don't know if I'm supposed to...
But he thinks he's as good as some of the fighters that they have come train him.
unidentified
Really?
jeff ross
That if he was fighting, he would beat this guy, for real.
Like, he was doing a scene the other night, and that's what Joe Daddy said.
joe rogan
What's that gay scene right there?
Right there.
What's going on right there?
jeff ross
That looks like...
I don't know what's going on.
unidentified
Come on.
jeff ross
They're playing brothers.
They're brothers.
joe rogan
Whatever.
It's time to get underhooks.
Dude, fight them off.
Get that right underhook.
jeff ross
It's a very intense show.
There's a lot of tears and...
joe rogan
What's that guy got?
jeff ross
A lot of drugs and fucking.
joe rogan
Are those tattoos on his arm or is he just like really in a tape?
What is that?
That's a new thing, bro.
I duct tape up before I leave my house, bro.
jeff ross
I think he's taped up.
joe rogan
It's a bad technique right there.
I'm getting a little upset at that rear naked choke technique.
What's he doing with his right hand?
Why isn't it behind the guy's head?
jeff ross
You are not watching a sanctioned clip from the show.
joe rogan
I'm watching some...
This is what I do when I'm fucking.
jeff ross
I think you're watching this too long and we should start questioning your sexuality.
unidentified
I don't know how many of your guests have done that, but...
joe rogan
I don't quite sink the choke in.
That's how I fuck.
jeff ross
You've started by staring at Nick Jonas getting choked out for almost three minutes now.
joe rogan
Hypnotized.
It's like one of those fucking clocks.
Tick, tock, tick, tock.
Have you ever been hypnotized?
jeff ross
No.
joe rogan
I got hypnotized recently for the first time ever.
It's very interesting.
Yeah, this guy who, Vinny Shorman, has been on the podcast.
He hypnotized a lot of fighters.
He's like kind of a mind coach.
Knows a lot about like how to eliminate barriers that people have set up.
Fucking send them to you, buddy.
Kick this fucking cigarette habit and get you on the road to recovery!
But, um, it's very interesting.
Because when you get hypnotized, you're aware of what's going on.
You're totally aware.
But you're definitely in some sort of fucking weird dreamland.
Very strange.
brian redban
Were you completely sober?
joe rogan
100%.
Yeah, 100% sober.
Sitting on the couch.
jeff ross
Was it just an adventure, or were you trying to cure something?
joe rogan
Well, I'm curious, because I wanted to know what...
Because I know a lot of fighters have used it and had very good results.
Like, it's alleviated a lot of anxiety with them, given them a lot of confidence, and they've attributed it to a lot of their positive performances.
It's not foolproof.
Better man always wins every time.
You know, and sometimes fighters who don't have a mind coach will still beat fighters that have a mind coach.
But I think...
All things said, if you add all the different things that a fighter has to be aware of, you have to be in shape, you have to know your techniques, you have to be motivated.
There's a lot of stuff going on in a fighter's head that has to be lined up properly.
And a mind coach, not a bad idea.
Having someone who can hypnotize you and give you tenets to live by and pathways that you could follow that are positive, I think that's fucking super important for anybody, for fighters, for anybody.
So I just wanted to try it.
I wanted to see if what it does for fighting can actually do for stand-up.
brian redban
Did you trust this guy?
Did you know this hypnotist?
Like, he didn't put in any crazy things that you'd make chicken noises?
joe rogan
No.
Bop!
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
No, it wasn't like, you know, take your pants off, suck my dick.
It wasn't like...
brian redban
How do you know?
joe rogan
I know it wasn't, because I was awake the whole time.
Like, you're awake.
It's a weird feeling, man.
It's like you're listening to him, but it's almost like you're in a room and he's coming in over a loudspeaker and your eyes are closed.
That's what it feels like.
It's very strange.
Very strange.
jeff ross
Is there anything you could compare it to?
Is it like yoga?
Is it like...
joe rogan
No, it's like a little bit like something that might happen in a sensory deprivation tank, because it seems like you go into this weird alternate state.
And that's sort of how he describes it, that you're actually entering into an alternate state of consciousness, like a different mind state.
Very, very interesting stuff.
I was always curious, because you ever seen a R-rated hypnotist?
jeff ross
Yeah.
joe rogan
Guys that are really good.
You ever see Frank Santos when he was around?
jeff ross
I remember him in Boston.
joe rogan
You do?
Yes!
He was the best.
He was the best, that guy.
jeff ross
It seemed creepy to me, like he had the hottest wife imaginable, and he looked like a...
joe rogan
A frog.
Yeah, he knocked it out of the park.
He was a great guy, though.
jeff ross
I just kept looking at her, trying to think of whatever the code word was to snap her out of it.
Code word is pickles.
Randomly, graham crackers, just to see.
She's like, what are you...
joe rogan
I'm married to who?
jeff ross
Wait, what?
Huh?
Wait, I was at a corporate party.
What happened?
No, married to a hypnotist?
joe rogan
He would have guys come in their pants all the time.
This is back when Madonna was hot.
It was like the 1980s.
And he had some guy and the guy was like doing push-ups on stage.
And he told him, now Madonna's underneath you and she's naked and you're having sex with her.
And you could see the guy literally think he was having sex with Madonna and he would come.
jeff ross
Jesus.
brian redban
Are you going to have more sessions?
joe rogan
I would do it again.
I would definitely do it again.
The hypnotizing thing.
I think I would do it again.
Vinny lives in England, so he's only here occasionally.
But if I found someone that was good, that was in this area, I would do it.
I think there's something...
jeff ross
You could videotape it though, right?
I'd be so creeped out.
joe rogan
I'm not scared.
brian redban
Periscope that shit at least.
joe rogan
All these people watching it from their phones in their car, fall asleep at the wheel and drive out in traffic.
unidentified
They'll fall asleep along with me.
brian redban
Wait, why hasn't a TV show, if hypnotism does exist, and it's true, why hasn't a TV show done that?
Have a 15 minute opening where they just hypnotize everyone that's watching it?
joe rogan
It's a good idea, actually.
You should do it.
jeff ross
That's how the Jonestown Massacre started.
You know what, Skype hypnotizing is a way a cult, you could get a group of people to sacrifice themselves.
joe rogan
He does stuff over Skype.
jeff ross
There's probably laws, there should be anti-hypnotism laws for more than small groups of people.
joe rogan
I don't know if it works like that.
jeff ross
What if Hitler was just a hypnotist and he had those big crowds?
He's like, fuck it.
joe rogan
Don't you think that when you're on stage and you're killing, when you're locked in, don't you think that's kind of like sort of a mass hypnosis in a lot of ways?
Don't you feel like that?
jeff ross
I like that.
I never thought about it that way, but I could see that.
joe rogan
You know how like when you're in the middle of your material and you're locked in, you're tuned into the audience, the audience is tuned into you, and they're kind of thinking like you're thinking.
I feel that way when I watch somebody.
If I watch somebody really good, like I watched Burr the other night, he was hilarious.
And I feel like when you watch someone as really good, you're tuning in to what they do.
Like, you're in their head.
Like, they're in your head, I guess, more.
And like, you're just kind of like an empty vessel, and your brain is filled up with their ideas.
And when someone's captivating, especially like Diaz the other night, had this fucking Cosby bit that was killing me.
Fucking killing me.
And when he's doing it, you're thinking the way he thinks.
Like, your eyes are open, you're anticipating what he's going to say.
You don't have any room in your head for anything else.
Like, you're thinking the way he's thinking.
He's inside your head.
He's hypnotized the entire crowd.
jeff ross
He's taking you for a ride.
Even if you didn't believe weren't with him, now you are.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's taking you for a ride.
He's taking you for a ride.
In a lot of ways, he's on the same ride.
I always feel that way, too.
I've always said this, that when I'm at my best, I'm as much of a passenger as I am a driver.
I kind of have to make the turns and steer the car and figure out which way the bits are going to go, but when I'm locked in, I feel like I'm just riding it.
I just have to get out of my own way.
Don't you feel like that?
jeff ross
I can understand being on a roll and not thinking, how's this going or what should I do?
Just talking.
As if you're talking to your buddy in the backseat of your car.
joe rogan
Well, especially your style, too, because you like to fuck with people.
And so when you're fucking with people, you're coming out of nowhere.
I mean, you're just pulling them out of the universe.
jeff ross
Yeah.
I remember hearing once how important...
There was an article a long time ago, maybe it was in a book, about late-night hosts, and you have to listen.
As soon as I stopped trying to think of jokes and just started to listen and trust that whatever I said would be entertaining in some way, eventually if I just stay in it and just listen to the other person...
If a funny character is presented in front of me, if someone's boring, you might have to try to...
Write a joke on the spot in your head, but if they're an interesting person, you could just talk to them and eventually it's gonna land on something funny.
joe rogan
Yeah, that is a problem with some comics is that they're so in their own head that they don't listen to the person they're talking to.
jeff ross
I had a lady on stage in Chicago and so speed roasting the crowd and gosh, she was like a really round person With a crazy yellow mohawk way over the top, and she was tiny little thing,
but built like a little mailbox with a big mouth and just a funny, funny body, and she came on, just threw herself up on stage, wanted to be roasted, and I was like, he said, a lot of people, I think I said a lot of people couldn't Pull off that outfit and you're two of them.
I don't know what the...
Shit, I'm ruining a great joke.
With a fond memory.
joe rogan
But it came to you out of nowhere.
jeff ross
I've got to remember the joke.
joe rogan
It came to you out of nowhere.
jeff ross
Yeah, you're just listening and boom, that's the home run that people remember because it wasn't thought about ahead of time.
It was just listening to the...
looking.
When you're roasting people, listening is also looking.
Like taking a good look at assessing exactly what's been put in front of you.
joe rogan
When you were doing the prison thing and you talked to the guy and you said you look like a combination of a child and a child molester.
jeff ross
Yeah, you're the rare person who looks like a child and a child molester at the same time.
And he did.
He did.
joe rogan
No, he did.
jeff ross
He nailed it.
I just try to say out loud what people normally would say behind people's backs.
Hence the karate.
Self-defense.
I do remember early instances of hecklers.
Before I knew anything about roasting, I was just a comedian, you know, usually emceeing, you know, on the road or in Jersey, you know, where we had a lot of characters.
And in the audience, I remember...
You know, a few times people taking swings at me or just walking on stage.
I was working with Rich Voss at a firehouse.
You know, I'd only been doing comedy a year or two.
And I opened for him at some sort of fundraiser at a firehouse.
I was about five minutes into my routine.
Saturday night, these firemen are in their firehouse.
This is before there were any rules to anything.
They kept telling me, make fun of Larry.
Make fun of Larry.
He loves it.
Make fun of Larry.
I don't know who Larry is.
Of course, Larry turned out to be the biggest asshole on the planet who doesn't love it at all.
And he literally was gigantic and walked up on stage and took the microphone out of my hand, put it in the mic stand and said, you're done.
And I just laughed.
Wow.
joe rogan
Was the audience laughing before that?
jeff ross
I don't remember.
I'm sure they weren't laughing enough.
I just remember it being so hard, and it just builds up your...
You have to have thick skin, and you've got to be able to, like, stare.
You've got to have confidence that, you know, you're in the right.
joe rogan
Well, you definitely would get a little bit more confidence having gone through martial arts, because you've done some difficult stuff, been involved with a little bit of conflict.
jeff ross
Yeah.
I mean, I did karate tournaments as a kid, and...
It's like you never feel more alive than when you're competing.
And I love when comedy has a little tension to it.
It doesn't have to be all about what I think.
Sometimes I remember getting as heckling became more and more In the audiences, more and more you heard people heckling and there were famous instances of hecklers and audiences and stuff like that.
I said, fuck it.
People are going to videotape the shows.
It's so annoying.
Why don't I just go one step further and put the audience on stage?
joe rogan
Wow, so that's when you started speed roasting.
jeff ross
Interactive.
I wanted my show to be more interactive.
And I'm still partially like that, but I think the audience is a big part of the experience now.
joe rogan
Well, also for you, because it's your style.
Like, you know, maybe that wouldn't work for some guys.
You know, with you, it just fits.
jeff ross
Yeah.
joe rogan
So you do it.
jeff ross
Yeah.
I grew up at a catering hall.
I like talking to people.
I like knowing why they're at my show.
joe rogan
Your parents were caterers?
jeff ross
Yeah.
My grandparents, my uncles, my cousins, me...
joe rogan
So you're just always around people?
jeff ross
Food, people, dancing.
joe rogan
Are you a dancer?
Dancing with the stars?
You were telling me that you got your eye fucked up and danced with the stars?
jeff ross
I had a scratched cornea on the last rehearsal on the first day of the live show and went to the hospital and danced anyway.
It was just...
I got the lowest scores since...
I don't know.
Since Larry Flint's wheelchair flipped over in season two.
joe rogan
So you just couldn't see?
Oh, you had an eye patch while you were doing it.
unidentified
Oh.
Wow.
joe rogan
Dude, look at you.
You fucking look pretty thin there.
jeff ross
Yeah, well.
joe rogan
Lose a lot of weight doing that show?
jeff ross
I lost about 20 pounds.
Yeah.
And how much does your ego weigh?
joe rogan
Your ego's all up five pounds, for sure.
jeff ross
I lost that, too.
But I look good.
That's Edita.
She's awesome.
joe rogan
Yeah, you have to practice every day for that shit.
jeff ross
I practiced.
I was in the best shape of my life.
All day.
joe rogan
I did a dancing scene with Leslie Bibb in the movie Zookeeper.
We had to do this fucking crazy dancing scene, and so we had to take dancing lessons.
It's hard.
It's fucking hard to do.
And here's the thing.
I don't like it.
jeff ross
I love it.
joe rogan
I don't want to do it.
jeff ross
Do you pull it out?
After the roast battle, we have a dance party in the back bar.
joe rogan
Really?
jeff ross
Sometimes at the comedy store.
joe rogan
Do you dance?
unidentified
Do you dance off?
jeff ross
We all dance.
Like 30 people dance.
joe rogan
Jamie, why is it 150 degrees in here?
Any reason?
Maybe let's see if those AC things work.
It's hot as fuck in here, isn't it?
jeff ross
I do the whip.
I do the nay-nay.
joe rogan
What is that?
jeff ross
It's the new dance craze.
joe rogan
Oh, are you whipping and nay-naying?
jeff ross
Yeah.
brian redban
Do you know what it means?
It means when you break your leg and you have a cast on and you take off the cast and it stinks like the stinky leg.
jeff ross
That's what it means.
Get out of here.
brian redban
All the kids are going crazy.
unidentified
What?
brian redban
You haven't heard of stinky leg?
joe rogan
What do you do?
You're not even on the mic and you're not making any sense.
Go put the AC on and come back and formulate your thoughts while you're out there.
That's Brian.
Two hits in.
That's what happens.
Two hits in.
jeff ross
He forgets.
joe rogan
He just doesn't make sense to anybody but him.
To him, it's totally making sense.
jeff ross
This is so fun, dude.
joe rogan
Thanks, buddy.
jeff ross
Nice studio.
Glad to be on the show.
joe rogan
It's comfortable, right?
jeff ross
For the first time.
Finally.
joe rogan
Dude, I've been asking.
You keep saying no.
jeff ross
Well, you know.
unidentified
That's not true.
jeff ross
I'm just happy to be here, dude.
joe rogan
I'm happy to have you here, man.
jeff ross
It's good to see you.
We've been friends a long time.
joe rogan
Long fucking time.
Back before you were Jeff Ross.
jeff ross
That's right.
joe rogan
I knew you with your different nom de pleur.
jeff ross
Liff Schultz.
joe rogan
Yes.
Back in the...
What made you change it to Ross?
Enough?
unidentified
Well...
jeff ross
Technically, Ross is...
Well, Ross is my middle name, and I'm still Jeff Liff Schultz.
joe rogan
Like on your driver's license?
jeff ross
Certain things.
joe rogan
Taxes and shit.
unidentified
And...
jeff ross
I was on Star Search.
joe rogan
That's why you changed it?
jeff ross
And Ed McMahon kept mispronouncing my name.
It was my first time on TV, and I was so...
It just threw me.
I was so new.
I didn't know...
I just couldn't handle...
Please welcome your challenger, Jeff Lipschitz.
And I just...
I'd come out for my three minutes, like, all frazzled.
Trying to make my family proud.
I'd never been on TV. So now their name's wrong, you know.
And they also had to use a smaller font on the screen when they introduced me, and it made me crazy.
Jeff Lifshultz.
It took up the whole...
joe rogan
Oh, right.
jeff ross
So on the flight home, after I lost, I said, I gotta do something.
And I just started using my middle name, Ross.
Named after my great-grandmother, Rose Lifshultz, who was the greatest caterer in New Jersey.
It all comes full circle.
joe rogan
Well, it's good too because it's the same letters, Jeff Ross, the same amount of letters, four and four.
Bam!
jeff ross
And that only started solid.
Yeah, it feels good.
joe rogan
Solid.
I like it.
jeff ross
Hey man, it works.
And by the way, when I was bad when I was a kid, they called me that anyway.
Jeffrey Ross, come over here.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
jeff ross
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, well, that's perfect then.
Yeah.
What made you decide to do this thing in a prison?
Because that was a fucking risky, ballsy move.
You know, we talked about it.
Like, Paul Rodriguez had a special that he did in a prison.
But, quite honestly, he looked a little nervous.
It was back in the day.
Looked a little nervous.
This was many years ago.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
He did an HBO special.
Live from a prison.
jeff ross
So that's your critique?
That he looked nervous in a prison?
Of course.
joe rogan
Because you didn't look nervous.
jeff ross
Oh, well.
You didn't watch carefully enough because I was fucking nervous.
I can hear myself stuttering and I can see myself shaking.
joe rogan
But you were pretty remarkably relaxed for the fact that you were roasting prisoners.
I mean, you were having fun with it, man.
It was fun.
And you even speed roasted them on stage.
So you turned your back to these fucking guys.
Like, did you know who they were or what they did?
jeff ross
No.
joe rogan
You had no idea.
jeff ross
No, but I thought it would be disrespectful not to do it like I'd do a normal show.
joe rogan
Right.
No, you did it perfect.
jeff ross
So I didn't know a lot about them.
I just tried to be in the moment and learn about them as I went along.
And I learned a lot.
joe rogan
Well, you wrote something.
Was it for HuffPost?
Is that what you wrote it for?
jeff ross
Yeah.
joe rogan
And I read it and then I retweeted it because it was fucking really powerful, man.
That's one of the things about...
I went to a Texas jail to roast the inmates to hear what I learned about incarceration in America.
And then in the corner is a girl with her ass up in there.
But it's also it wasn't just that it wasn't just this this article too, but also the little pieces that you had In the videos where you had like the stats like one and out of every 100 Americans is in jail And then there's more black men in jail right now than there were slaves in the 1800s fucking a man It's an emergency.
jeff ross
It's an embarrassment to America when you think about that.
If that many people are in jail and, you know...
unidentified
It is.
jeff ross
The one good piece of positive news I saw is that they're commuting some sentences of non-violent drug offenders.
You know, it'll only be in the hundreds that...
joe rogan
65 so far, Obama's done.
Or what I saw the other day in one article, at least.
Yeah, it's old enough.
jeff ross
Maybe there's some hope that...
I don't know.
I do feel like...
The roast helped people talk about it in a way that is a little more accessible because it wasn't something I knew a lot about.
And as I started writing, I really just wanted to roast criminals.
I thought it'd be funny.
And as I started writing the act, I did a stand-up act for months just to acclimate myself and have an act that would kill in front of people that are locked up right now.
I learned so much, and that's what...
I think is the greater good for me is that not only did I make them laugh, but I got something out of it, too.
I mean, it's embarrassing that we have more people locked up in America than anywhere else in the world.
And we're supposed to be a free country.
joe rogan
And the reasons why they're locked up.
That's what's fucked up.
And also, the idea that someone in this world can't fuck up.
You can't make a mistake.
And if you do make a mistake, then you get locked in a cage.
Especially a mistake if you're thinking about someone who's coming from a really poor background.
Who needed money, took a chance, and sold some drugs.
And that's it.
And then you're locked in a cage.
And I'm sure a lot of the people that you were talking to, a lot of people that you were looking at, they were in there for some sort of non-violent drug crime.
jeff ross
That's right.
joe rogan
That's a big percentage of our prison population.
When we were in the parking lot of the Comedy Store, we had that conversation about it.
It's pretty obvious that it...
I don't know if it changed...
Could I say it changed you?
Or it certainly affected you in a big way, man.
You were really taken aback by it.
And just the sheer numbers and the experience itself.
jeff ross
Everybody in there is a human being.
You know, you look at those orange jumpsuits on the news or on lockup, and people are just getting tossed around and pushed around.
There's parts of jails that even I didn't get to shoot in.
You know, there's...
In the 70s, hundreds of thousands of beds in mental hospitals just closed down.
That's the way we run mental illness in America changed in the 70s.
So now the jails have become...
De facto mental hospitals and these jailers have to babysit people that are crazy.
And that's not what the job is.
And these places become very complicated to run.
And we just lock these people away.
They come back over and over and over like human dust.
We forget about them.
If we lock them, we put them over there.
We don't have to think about them.
But the food sucks.
Solitary confinement is barbaric.
You know, we should just sort of be talking about...
That should be the biggest thing they talked about in that Republican.
I hardly heard anything about prison reform.
Seems to me like this is an emergency.
joe rogan
It does seem like that.
Did you hear they put Chelsea Manning in solitary because her toothpaste was expired?
jeff ross
They can do whatever they want.
unidentified
It's...
joe rogan
What?
I wish I was making that up.
Jamie, pull it up.
brian redban
Why?
What was the reason for that?
joe rogan
You're not supposed to have expired toothpaste.
jeff ross
She wasn't brushing her teeth enough.
joe rogan
It was just one of those things where they had a violation.
They fucking hate this girl who used to be a guy, if you don't know the whole story.
She is the former artist formerly known as, what was her original name?
Bradley Manning?
Yeah, Bradley.
And he gave all the files to WikiLeaks.
And look at this.
WikiLeaks source, Manning convicted over magazines and toothpaste.
Well, what does the article say there?
Convicted of violating the Espionage Act.
unidentified
Pshh.
joe rogan
In prison for providing classified docus.
Stop.
Guilty on four charges, the inmate tweeted.
I'm receiving 21 days of restrictions on recreation.
No gym, library, or outdoors, Manning tweeted.
Those four charges included medical issue, prohibited property, disorderly conduct, and disrespect.
jeff ross
Can't break the rules.
joe rogan
Medicine charge came after officials discovered expired tube of toothpaste in her cell.
What?
That's the medicine charge.
Wow.
So they're just fucking with her.
Contraband came in the form of books and magazines, such as a copy of Vanity Fair magazine featuring Caitlyn Jenner, LOL, and a copy of Cosmopolitan magazine featuring an interview with Manning.
Oh wow, she's not allowed to have an interview with herself.
But according to ChelseaManning.org, she received the reading material legally through the prison's open mail system.
Yeah, they're fucking with her, dude.
They're fucking with her.
They can.
They're fucking criminals.
Just lock that person up and take away all their rights, all that's any privacy, any ownership they have over their own body or even what they want to read.
Can you imagine that?
Vanity Fair is fucking contraband.
You can get locked up in solitary for a Vanity Fair.
Fuck.
Sick.
It's sick.
And, you know, look at that whole thing, the way it went down.
That poor guy, Julian Assange, he's still locked up in that fucking...
He's still in that house in the...
What do you call those things?
Embassy.
He's still in the, who is it?
Ecuador's?
Ecuador's embassy?
Something like that?
In London.
Like, he can't leave.
If he steps foot out of that building, he's fucked.
So the dude's not getting any vitamin D. He's not going outside.
Super unhealthy.
It really is unhealthy.
Like, you really need to be outside.
Poor fucker.
You can literally walk out the door.
Yep, exactly.
But you know what they're saying?
They're saying it.
What they're saying is that it's a sex case, that he had sex with a woman, and then in the middle of the night, he stuck it in again without a condom.
It's called surprise sex, like they were cuddled together naked, and he didn't put a condom a second time.
And I don't even know if the woman is pressing charges.
I mean, I don't know what's going on, but they were trying to extradite him for that.
Like, right!
Yeah, that's what you were doing.
Yeah, right.
Like, that's why this guy's locked up in an embassy.
Do you imagine if every time a guy tried to cuddle with a chick and sneak it in without a rubber, that guy would get locked up in an embassy and be holed up there?
jeff ross
I'd be the Secretary of State.
I'd be at every embassy in the world.
joe rogan
Are you one of those surprise sex enthusiasts?
jeff ross
I love slipping it in at 4.30 in the morning.
joe rogan
It's not technically rape.
Because I guess she was asleep, and they had already had sex, and they were, you know, cuddled together in this little spooning-type position, you know, dick to vajayjay right from behind.
I don't know.
I'm just making it up, because I don't really know what happened.
Nobody knows what happened.
He says it's all bullshit.
But the idea that they got this guy locked up for that, and that's why they...
No, it's not!
It's WikiLeaks!
It's the fucking information they released!
That's what they're trying to get him on a loophole, and we all know it.
It's going on right in front of our eyes.
It's fucking crazy.
It's just right in front of our eyes.
brian redban
That Ashley Madison finally got leaked yesterday, so whoever did that, I'm sure is going to be the next one of these guys if they find out who it is.
joe rogan
But that could just be a hacker, though.
That could just be like the fappening people.
They just tap into...
jeff ross
What kind of fucking mass cock-blocking nutjob wants to do that to AshleyMadison.com?
joe rogan
Dudes who aren't getting laid.
They're like, fuck it!
If I'm not getting laid, nobody's getting laid!
jeff ross
Such a dick!
brian redban
Yeah, it's out.
I saw it too.
And what's scary is that not only does it have all the names, it has all the information.
So they leaked the credit card information, they leaked everything.
joe rogan
Did they leak who they had sex with?
Or who they think they had sex with?
brian redban
Yeah, because you make an appointment with the other person.
So there's everything in there.
joe rogan
Make an appointment.
brian redban
You're pretty much buying an escort.
joe rogan
But it's not an escort, it's a person.
brian redban
You're using a service.
joe rogan
Did you hear about that Uber for Escort app that they have in Germany?
And they're like an Uber for Escorts.
It's like using Uber, except you have the escorts, you just fucking look at your phone, you say, hey, I want to get my dick sucked.
And you put the thing up there, and then...
jeff ross
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
jeff ross
Uber?
joe rogan
Debbie's on her way over, you know?
brian redban
That's great.
joe rogan
Uber.
Yeah.
That was hilarious when you called out the lesbian in the crowd for looking exactly like Justin Bieber.
It was perfect.
jeff ross
In the women's jail?
joe rogan
Yeah, the women's jail was an interesting one, man, because they fucking laughed hard.
They laughed hard.
jeff ross
They needed it.
joe rogan
They did need it.
jeff ross
They needed it in a whole nother way than the guys.
joe rogan
What did it feel like?
What is the difference between, what does a women's jail feel like as opposed to a men's jail?
Because you don't feel it's like physically threatened, right?
It's a little bit, a little bit, right?
jeff ross
No, I mean, it was fine.
But I wasn't thinking about my own safety.
I was more thinking about how to make this the most like a night...
My instincts were to make it like a nightclub.
Treat the women as women, not as inmates.
joe rogan
Right.
jeff ross
And make it the same way I would at a comedy club.
And that's what I did.
And they were shrieking with delight because no one had spoke to them as women.
They're always just yelled at and ordered around and...
And that came through, that they really needed a laugh and to just be girls, women, ladies for an hour.
And they wound up being so great.
It was a warm-up for me for the next night when I did two shows for the guys.
joe rogan
Oh, so you did the ladies first?
jeff ross
Yeah.
joe rogan
And you said you had a real hard time trying to find prisons that would let you do this.
jeff ross
Yeah.
We reached out to 150 or so until finally we found one in Texas.
joe rogan
One?
jeff ross
One.
joe rogan
Wow.
And whose decision?
Is the warden's decision?
jeff ross
There's a few people who have to agree.
Wayne Dickey is the jail administrator at Brazos County Jail and he stepped up and had confidence in his institution and his facility and he wanted to He wanted everyone to see his staff and how great they were and to see how his inmate behavioral programs worked, where he incentivizes the inmates.
joe rogan
How does that work?
jeff ross
In good behavior, and they get rewards.
If you do your time without messing up, there are huge rewards.
And one of them was coming to see me.
These guys had to behave for one month in order to see my show.
unidentified
Oh.
jeff ross
And...
I took that as a huge compliment that so many people did that.
Not everybody, but most of the jail, more than half, came to my shows.
And they were appreciative, and I felt that too.
That's why the show came off, because not only were they good sports, but they knew what they were signing up for ahead of time, because they had a month's notice that I was coming there to roast them.
And there were posters around the jail that said, you know, if you can laugh at yourself, you're one step closer to freedom.
And they came.
And when I asked for volunteers, guys were running down from the balcony.
They're not allowed to even be in the same room.
It was a communal experience for the different sects and gangs and types of people, you know.
It was all dudes and squeezed into this one room.
With the most dangerous closer to the stage by the door and the least dangerous packed into the rafters.
unidentified
Wow.
jeff ross
So if there was a problem, they could handle it.
The jailers could handle it.
It was very calculated as far as the safety of how it would go down.
joe rogan
Did you get your front kick ready?
jeff ross
I was in it, man.
I didn't want anybody near the stage.
I wanted it to be the most like a comedy club I could make it for them.
joe rogan
So that was the only time that they were ever jammed into a room like that?
jeff ross
Yeah.
And, you know, that's a real security concern.
That takes quite a bit of planning to take five, six pods of dudes and put them in one room.
They can overpower the jailers.
They could overdo whatever they want.
There's cameras in there.
I'm in there.
So there was a huge trust factor that went on between the jailers and the inmates, myself and my crew.
joe rogan
So what kind of security did they have in place in case this shit hit the fan?
jeff ross
I did ask about my security if I had any special person or way out and they said absolutely not.
Which I couldn't believe.
At first I think I took them off guard.
They just didn't get to that.
But their assumption was beyond me was there will not be any problems.
So, I am no more special than anyone else in that room, the way they set it up.
Which I respected.
There was not gonna be a problem.
joe rogan
Where did you come up with this idea and what made you decide to film a special this way?
jeff ross
Well, I wanted to make it purposeful.
I wanted to learn something.
I wanted to initially think of the funniest thing, which would be crime in America.
And I talk to a lot of people.
I'm friends with Tony Hinchcliffe, Mike Ferrucci, George Reinblatt, my cousin Ed Larson.
We just brainstormed and tried to think of the funniest, craziest shit we could do.
and somehow roasting criminals seem like a hilarious way for me to do what I do face to face you know roasting concepts is one thing or roasting people from behind a desk has all been done and but going to it like getting into something immersing in an environment that's my specialty I I love that.
To me, it's like a corporate gig, you know?
You're writing a special act for a certain night, then you're never going to do it again.
joe rogan
Right, right.
jeff ross
And I love that.
It's a roast.
joe rogan
So that's what you like about roasts.
You like preparing for roasts.
Like, I've seen you at the club, the improv in the store, getting ready, pages and notes.
Like, you like the whole event.
Like, there's an event coming up.
jeff ross
I like the writing.
The event is the payoff, but you have to enjoy the process.
And I like writing the jokes.
joe rogan
So you just like a subject to focus on?
unidentified
Yeah.
jeff ross
I like that.
Something that I'm interested in or curious about or a fan of...
You know, it's got to be something meaty, you know?
I mean, I can riff if I don't, but if I'm invested in it somehow, like, with the jail, I thought, like, how did I, like, smoke so much pot and have so much fun in my life and never get in real trouble?
I sold weed in high school.
Like, this could have been me.
You know, this could have been me.
So I got curious.
And as I get personally curious and invested in something, I can start to see, find the hypocrisies that go into it and how the humanity can be lifted out of it.
And I started to see that this is a sad place, and it's kind of like doing a USO tour.
And I told that to the jailers when I met with them.
I had to go down there and ask permission a couple times.
And they had to trust me, you know, that I wasn't there to humiliate anybody or expose anything that was not just...
I don't know.
I didn't have an agenda.
I was going to make it real.
I was really just going to go there and see if people had a sense of humor.
It was simple.
And as I got into it, I realized how lucky I am that I never got in real trouble, that I never got busted for anything, and that if I had, I'm not sure I would have survived.
joe rogan
Well, especially if you were selling pot.
jeff ross
Right.
joe rogan
If you were selling pot, you could have got caught, and you also could have got talked into selling more pot.
Have you ever heard of those stories?
Like DEA agents go undercover, and they'll talk a kid into, like, listen, I'm going to put a deal together, you know, if you're a part of this.
There was a story that they did in Rolling Stone about a DEA undercover agent who talked this kid into a big cocaine deal that wasn't real.
It wasn't real.
There was no real cocaine.
But he talked this kid into selling it, and this kid's in jail for life now.
The kid was just a low-level dealer.
He was selling, you know, a little bit here, a little bit there, nothing big.
And this DEA guy essentially talked him into doing some gigantic deal that put him in jail for 25 to life.
And that can happen to anybody!
Look, I've made some big fuck-ups in my life.
I've been an idiot many times in my life.
I don't know a single person who hasn't made mistakes.
We all make mistakes.
But it's whatever the environment is that you're growing up in, dictate how bad your situation is, whatever you were exposed to, and that might be a factor in the level of your mistake.
So the dumb mistakes that I made were the pretty...
Uneventful childhood.
Nothing too serious.
Good parents.
Nice folks.
My mom's a sweet person.
You know, love my sister.
It's like pretty easy life.
Growing up in Newton, Massachusetts.
Not hard.
Not hard at all.
Imagine...
Just a much more chaotic situation with the same person, living in Inglewood, you know, whatever, Watts, Detroit, in some fucking hopeless place where you can't get out, and then next thing you know, you're in fucking jail.
You're in jail, and you're gonna be in jail for five, six years, and during that time, you go from being 21 to 26, and now you're getting out, and you're a fucking, you're a man, and you're a convict, you can't get a fucking job, and you're just trying to figure out how to scratch and survive.
It's fucked.
It's fucked.
You know, it's fucked that there's so many people out there that just don't get a chance or whatever chance you get.
You know, and there's a lot of people go, oh, if you just follow the law, but get the fuck out of here.
That's nonsense.
Especially when it comes to selling drugs.
It just doesn't make any sense.
It doesn't make any sense to these kids.
It just doesn't.
jeff ross
I saw guys 18, 19, 20 years old, been already been in one, two, three times.
unidentified
Pssh.
joe rogan
And imagine what their parents are like.
Imagine what their neighborhood was like.
Imagine what their uncle was like.
Whatever the fuck they encountered from the time they were a baby to the time they were a prisoner.
And then the fucked up thing is you just become kind of a human battery.
Because all you do is you generate money for private prisons.
Every one person that goes into those private prisons is worth a certain amount of money for those companies.
And they sell that.
That's their business.
Their business is making money, extracting money out of prisoners.
And there's a whole system that's involved in doing it.
All the way from the guards.
The guard unions make sure that they keep certain drugs illegal and make sure that certain laws stay on the books and certain penalties are still in place.
It's fucked, man.
It's fucked.
You know, I had this guy on the other day we were talking about, and he was saying that one of the only things that, like, keeps it from getting even worse is that the private prisons and the guard unions don't get along.
Like, the guards want certain things that the prisons don't, because the prisons don't want to pay the guards, so there's a fucking, there's a little internal struggle.
But if they worked together, it would be even worse.
unidentified
Hmm.
joe rogan
Terrible.
You could have been a prisoner.
You could have totally fucked up, huh?
brian redban
I was in prison.
Or jail.
That's where I learned what Hooch was.
joe rogan
Well, you went to jail for something you didn't even do.
You are, out of all the dudes that I've ever met, out of all the guys that I've ever met who have run across crazy women that get really fucking angry at you when you break up.
Every fucking girl you've ever dated since I've been friends with you, they get furious at you when it's over.
Well, they want to kill you.
I've seen it in person.
It's not just, granted, you inspire that in some men as well.
brian redban
I just...
Date those crazy bitches.
I don't know what...
Like, I really...
I think I'm...
Whatever...
My attraction, my smell that I like on women is ones that are more entertaining than boring, I guess.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, you like those dirty girls, too.
A lot of times, dirty girls that are involved in naked things.
Those girls are wilder.
They're more fun.
You know?
brian redban
I was thinking, like, I want to meet a girl that, like, every time she goes to Vegas to hang out with her friends, like, that she sends me a photo that I'm not looking at the wallpaper and then comparing it to, like, Dan Blitzerin's Instagram photos, you know?
Like, I'm like, wait a second, it looks like the same cup on his nightstand as...
joe rogan
Dan Bilzerian.
brian redban
Yeah, whatever.
I just found out about that guy.
What?
I'm, like, the last person.
I just went to his Instagram and was like, wait, this is what everyone's been talking about?
That's amazing.
That dude...
joe rogan
He's made millions of dollars playing poker.
Apparently more than $100 million playing poker.
But he got all his money from his dad, too.
His dad was some famous character, so he's been rich his whole life.
Doesn't give a fuck.
brian redban
He looks like he has a lot of fun.
joe rogan
Jamie, where's those nitros?
Give me some of those nitros.
brian redban
Nitros?
unidentified
Poppers?
joe rogan
No.
Nitro coffee.
Caveman coffee.
Those nitrogenated cold brewed coffees.
I'm addicted to those little things.
brian redban
I'm drinking right now.
joe rogan
They're awesome.
You ever have one?
Do you drink coffee?
jeff ross
Sure.
joe rogan
Get one for Mr. Ross.
Mr. Ross would like a night...
What?
Because you've been drinking them, you fuck!
Fucking Jamie.
He drank all of them.
I had three of those, you fucking savage.
Give him the real one and get me a bottle of water.
No, no, no, it's okay.
That other stuff's the same shit.
Just fucking around.
He does drink them every day, though, the savage.
You gotta order some.
brian redban
Come on, Jamie.
joe rogan
If you're gonna drink them every day, you gotta order them, okay?
You fucking animal.
Thank you, sir.
Do we have any cold waters in there?
brian redban
What did you think about the whole fat Jewish thing?
joe rogan
Yeah, that's what we were talking about actually before the show.
You were saying that you think that the networks need to loosen up and the internet needs to tighten up.
What did you mean by that?
jeff ross
Oh, I was just saying...
I was just talking off the cuff, but...
joe rogan
Thanks, buddy.
jeff ross
You know, we're talking about this guy who goes by the Fat Jewish on Instagram, and I would follow him, and I'd see funny stuff on there, so I kind of knew about him.
I didn't know a lot about how he collected his material.
I guess I didn't think about it.
Like, most of the five million people who follow him, they don't care.
They just want to laugh.
They're not thinking about anything, you know?
And then I started to see that...
He was collecting whatever he thought was funny.
I'm not sure.
I don't know a lot about it.
joe rogan
He was cropping people's names out.
He wasn't just collecting things.
He was actively trying to make sure that he didn't show who created it and he just put it on his page so he didn't give credit to the people that made it.
That's what the big problem was.
Everybody retweets things.
You retweet things.
unidentified
I retweet.
joe rogan
You do.
One of our friends says something funny.
It helps them when you retweet it.
And it shows, first of all, it entertains the people that get to read it on your Twitter feed, and it gives that person the credit.
It's a great thing.
There's nothing wrong with retweeting.
I think if he did that, he would have the same amount of people.
If he really was a true aggregator, like HuffPost.
jeff ross
They credit everybody that they use.
joe rogan
Yeah, but Hoppost is an aggregator.
jeff ross
The internet, my entire career, I've never made money off all the millions of clips that are out there, millions of views, and people are always shooting comedians.
Comedians get annoyed.
You see a lot of comedians want to shut down phones at their shows because they don't want their half-written jokes on the internet, or they don't want the...
They're fans to see their material without having to pay for it, either live at a show or buying their specials online.
And TV seems restricted all the time.
So maybe...
joe rogan
What do you mean by TV is restricted all the time?
jeff ross
Well, you know, networks are trying to be edgier, but there's still bleeps, and there's still censorship, and there's all sorts of regulations.
But with the internet, everyone always explained it as a wild, wild west.
You know, you could just do whatever you want.
Like, all the time you'll see people will make videos and compreels, and they'll edit famous movies, and you just use whatever footage, and no one ever cares.
Then now people are starting to care a little bit.
They're looking for ways the last five, ten years to monetize the Internet.
And to me, it's coming very close to being how we watch everything.
I hardly ever watch TV anymore.
And when I do, it's a big live event.
They're just all starting to become...
There's no more the Internet.
There's no more TV. It's just...
Programming and it's different brands and you go to those brands So I go at some point the regulations for the internet and television should be the same and they should be they should get together and it should just be Do you mean as a set of standards for now on but what do you mean by standards?
Do you mean as far as the music rights and how it all goes down and the stuff we have to you know the I'm in the Writers Guild.
I don't know.
I mean, it's all the same now at this point, and I feel like the internet needs to step it up, and they should be crediting stuff and paying for rights, and to some extent I think it's happening, and I think that's good.
joe rogan
I think you're right.
I think for a long time it was innocent, you know?
Like someone would post a funny meme on their Instagram and no one cared because it was just people being funny.
Like, oh, this guy's funny.
But then, when people started making a lot of money off of it, then you realize, well, what made that guy famous?
He's just an aggregator.
All he's doing is collecting all the shit that's online and instead of the actual writers of each one of those individual bits getting some credit, All the credit's going to him.
So now what he's doing, what this guy who calls himself the Fat Jewish is doing, is he just puts the guy's name at the end, or the girl's name at the end.
So he steals their picture, puts it up on his site, and instead of saying, this picture was made by Jeff Ross, the real Jeff Ross, it now just has...
Just a tag, you know, at, and then whoever's name it is, with no mention of where, you know, like, that this person created this originally.
It just, it just throws their name up there.
Which is stupid.
Like, all you have to do is, this hilarious meme was created by, boom!
And then that person gets credit, that person probably happy, they'll get a shitload of fucking people will come to visit them, and sign up, and follows.
He's not doing that.
jeff ross
And I did notice he sort of does it at the end of whatever the new comment is, so it almost looks like the person he wants to give credit to is actually giving credit for the comment, not the picture.
joe rogan
In some ways.
In some ways, yeah.
It's just not open, you know?
It's just like it's reluctant.
It's a reluctant comment.
Credit at the end.
jeff ross
What else is he?
Is he funny?
I haven't seen...
joe rogan
I don't know.
I mean, he's a good marketer, obviously.
He's really smart at putting it all together.
brian redban
He's not, by the way, he's not even giving proper credit.
On a lot of them, I've noticed.
He's saying that that person made this, but then you go to their account and they don't have that on their Instagram.
There's a few instances where he's crediting these people that didn't make it and aren't even active.
Hasn't even used their Instagram for like 12 months.
And it was just like, if you go through all his photos, it has nothing to do with what he, like why he credited.
So it's weird.
joe rogan
Why do you think he's doing that?
brian redban
What the internet is saying, allegedly.
I gotta protect myself.
I talked to my lawyer yesterday about all this.
unidentified
Did you really?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Why?
brian redban
Just because I don't want to get in trouble or anything like that.
You know, when you have somebody that's Jewish, the first thing you think that you're going to get sued if you talk about it.
joe rogan
How dare you, Jeff?
Jeff, as a lip schultz, how do you sit next to this guy?
brian redban
Just kidding.
joe rogan
Goddamn anti-Semite.
He's German, you know.
brian redban
No, I'm Irish.
Brian Rochelle.
joe rogan
No, you wrote on your page, this fat German is going after this fat Jew.
brian redban
Yeah.
But, now what was I talking about?
joe rogan
You tell me.
brian redban
I don't know.
What was I talking about?
jeff ross
Who cares?
joe rogan
You were talking about him not giving credit.
brian redban
What the internet is saying is that he has these interns supposedly that are half the accounts that he credits.
So he has his intern take it from somebody else and put it on his account and then he credits his intern.
So that it's still in the family.
It's kind of like a loophole.
joe rogan
That's a big allegedly.
brian redban
You don't have any information about that.
joe rogan
What is the internet?
brian redban
Which forum are you going to?
There's a Reddit forum.
I think both of them are on Reddit.
And there's another website that's doing it also.
But if you just Google him, there's a lot of message boards that have been talking about him for years and breaking down everything he's stolen.
And it's very interesting.
jeff ross
Doesn't he call himself a curator or something on his Instagram page?
Isn't he sort of saying, this is what I do?
joe rogan
Is that what he's saying?
brian redban
I don't know.
joe rogan
I don't know.
We should say, though, because somebody posted this yesterday, that we were talking about that girl.
She's really funny.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
We were saying, what was her name again?
Pistol Sherman?
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
People said that she has misappropriated people's stuff as well.
I don't know how that works, though.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
I don't know if it's true or not.
I think she's kind of admitting that she has definitely put some stuff up that somebody sent her that she thought was funny.
But I think she said 80% of the stuff is hers.
But you know what I mean?
A lot of people, they're just finding memes that are funny and they put them on their page.
It's kind of innocent in some ways, right?
jeff ross
That's what I mean.
The internet is, I don't know, it's for amateurs or something still.
We've got to figure out how to make it.
joe rogan
But how do you I mean Brian rather did a great job of actually finding the original image and finding the time the original image was posted in the day and That's how he credited people and that's how he actually discredited a couple of people that Originally were trying to claim that they came up with it first But it was proven that somebody else had posed the exact same image the exact same text before them Yeah
brian redban
Yeah, it kind of sucks because if we want regulations, if we want to change how it is now, what's going to happen is it's like when you have a YouTube video and it detects that there's copyright material in it.
So now anytime we want to post like a photo on our Facebook or tweet something, we're going to have like a block and we kind of don't want that.
joe rogan
You can't fuck with the internet, man.
They find you.
They find you.
When you try to sell them a plate of bullshit, people find you.
They just figure it out.
You can't get away with it.
You just can't.
Do you see the Asprey thing?
Look at this.
Dave Asprey put up a photo.
brian redban
Oh yes, of his stomach?
joe rogan
Of a fake photo, stock photo of someone else's abs shredded and said, you know, this is my stomach after 4,500 calories a day and no working out.
brian redban
And it's just a stock photo.
joe rogan
It's a stock photo, and he's trying to say that his bulletproof diet gives you that.
In his defense, if you click on the link, there's an actual photo of his actual abs that Jamie thinks are photoshopped.
Allegedly.
Jamie thinks they're allegedly photoshopped.
unidentified
Allegedly.
brian redban
Allegedly.
joe rogan
You don't even need to see it.
Let's not even pull it up, but it's the same thing.
It's the same thing.
You can't fuck with these people.
If you're, you know, blatantly bullshitting and stealing They're gonna find you.
That's gonna find you.
brian redban
That's really funny though.
That he did that?
Yeah.
I've been working out and just post like...
joe rogan
That guy has muscles everywhere.
If there was really a way that you can get a body like that guy's without ever working out, you would have to be some sort of a genetic manipulation.
You have to be some experiment.
That's not just abs.
That guy has chest muscles, shoulder muscles.
It's a guy that trains probably on a daily basis.
The fact that he would put that picture up is just so crazy.
unidentified
That's funny.
joe rogan
He's so crazy.
Just so fucking nuts.
People are out of their goddamn minds.
They really are.
And the internet, you know, it's gonna fucking expose that shit.
It just takes a matter of time.
jeff ross
That's why you gotta go see shows live.
joe rogan
Stand-up, you mean?
jeff ross
Yeah.
I put less jokes on the internet than I used to.
I put less jokes on Twitter than I used to because I want my best material for when you come see me live and that's a much more unique and exciting experience.
joe rogan
People get mad sometimes if you talk about something on the podcast, even if you bring up the subject and then have a bit about it on stage.
Oh, you were talking about that on the podcast.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Do you not want us to talk about funny shit on the podcast?
Can you allow us to come up with ideas spontaneously on the podcast and then talk about them on stage as well?
You fucks.
brian redban
Yeah, I've done that before.
joe rogan
God damn it.
jeff ross
That's just, you know, they want to know that...
joe rogan
Well, they just want to fucking let you know that they're listening carefully.
unidentified
I heard you talk about that already!
joe rogan
Don't you think, though, that it's good, though, that they keep you on your toes?
I think even with the hypercriticism, you don't want to dive into it.
You don't want to just do a Google search on your name, find out all the people talking shit about you.
It's not good.
But knowing that they're there probably gives you an edge.
Keeps you sharp.
jeff ross
I can see that.
joe rogan
I think so.
Keeps you sharp.
jeff ross
I try not to read the bad comments.
I try to stay away from the haters and stay positive.
joe rogan
Well, you try hard, though, and you work hard at what you do.
It's not like you're slacking off and someone's coming along and calling you on it.
If they're saying some mean shit, they just don't like you.
They might not like your style.
There's going to be people that like, you know, him or like anybody.
You know, they like a certain style, and they don't like your style.
Or they do like your style.
They don't like somebody else's style.
They're not right or wrong.
They just have their own taste.
jeff ross
No, they're wrong.
Everyone likes my style.
joe rogan
When you read it, though, some of them are so fucking mean.
And why is that?
unidentified
I'm just saying, why?
joe rogan
You can notice them.
Do you block people?
Sometimes, yeah.
They're just rude and mean.
Why would I argue with them?
jeff ross
I ignore them.
joe rogan
You don't even block them?
jeff ross
No, because then they know you saw it.
joe rogan
Who cares?
Who cares?
jeff ross
Why do you care if they know?
I just want them to float in the sea and not know.
joe rogan
But you did see it.
jeff ross
Yeah, so why acknowledge some piece of shit?
joe rogan
But then you can just keep doing it.
You're going to get Twitter bombed now.
jeff ross
Real Jeffrey Ross.
Bring it on.
Motherfucker!
I'm ready.
What are you going to tell me?
I don't already fucking know, you motherfucker.
What are you going to tell me?
Real Jeffrey Ross.
joe rogan
They're so aggressive.
jeff ross
Come on, bring it on.
You think I don't know I look like Bruce Willis drowned?
Bring it on, motherfuckers.
I'm ready for some...
joe rogan
Bruce Willis wish he looked like you right now.
jeff ross
Roast me on my Twitter right now.
joe rogan
Bruce Willis looks like shit.
He wishes he looks like you now.
Poor bastard.
jeff ross
I just spent a week at the beach.
This is as tan as I'm ever going to get.
joe rogan
You look good.
jeff ross
I feel very healthy.
joe rogan
You look vibrant.
jeff ross
Thank you.
joe rogan
What were you going to say?
brian redban
I've toned it down more on Twitter than I used to, like making fun of people or attacking people on Twitter.
I used to be, I think back in the early days of your message board and stuff, we used to have kind of fun having online battles with people.
joe rogan
Flame Wars.
brian redban
Flame Wars.
joe rogan
That's what we used to call it.
We used to call it Flame Wars.
Those were fun.
They were fun, but...
Too many people jump in now.
The other thing is it's not just two people going back and forth.
It's a bunch of people that would decide that they're on the other guy's side or this guy's side and jump in.
Like, you get a lot of that now.
There's a lot of what you see online when there's any sort of a debate about something is pile-ons.
You know, there's a bunch of people who pile on.
One side or the other.
You know, I tweeted something the other day.
And this guy, he's up for, he might go to jail in Canada, because he's been tweeting at this girl, and apparently there was some agreement that he wouldn't tweet at her anymore, but he used to be on her side.
I think he actually even did some artwork with her, but she's like this radical feminist, and she took him to court.
She called the police on him.
This guy was harassing her.
And it was even sometimes, she would write something about him, and the fact that he responded to her about him, she was saying he was harassing her.
Which is kind of hilarious.
But all I did was there was an article and a video.
And I retweeted it.
This is interesting.
The exact title of the video is what came up on my tweet.
In the exact same order because I just went to the YouTube thing where it says share and I tweeted it.
I didn't put any commentary.
I didn't have any editorial control over it.
And so many fucking people were angry at me, saying that I'm a misogynist, and why would I post this?
It's a woman in the video, an older woman in the video, who's talking about this case.
So it's a woman's video about a woman who's suing a man, and the man might go to jail because the man was tweeting at a woman who didn't want him to tweet at her.
This is crazy.
But I looked at the comments, I was like, Jesus Christ!
Like, the fucking mean people piling on and angry at me that I tweeted this.
I guess you could kind of think that maybe this is my opinion instead of me just sharing something.
But I share shit I don't believe in at all.
I'll share some flat earth shit or some Bigfoot shit.
I'll share nonsense.
I'll retweet people that think the earth is less than 10,000 years old.
I do that all the time.
This is one dummy that I follow.
I retweet him.
Well, I don't retweet him anymore because I don't want him to know that I follow him.
But I do read his shit.
It's just so ridiculous.
Some of his stuff is so...
It's all anti-Obama.
It's either he hates Obama.
I wish I remembered his name.
Joe Sussmanup something starts with a C. But he's like one of the dumbest religious guys online.
And everything is like either anti-Obama or anti-evolution or anti-the earth is, you know, 4.6 billion years old.
He's convinced it's less than 10,000 years old.
He's a real guy.
It's not a parody account.
brian redban
There's this MTV celebrity, and I don't want to say who she is, but she's always on TMZ, and it's always her being like, don't you know who I am?
And getting arrested, and she's just like this privileged white girl celebrity from MTV. And I tweeted her something, because recently she hit a cop or something like that, and they're drunk and they're just recording her outside of a club.
Handcuffed and I tweeted or something and it got a lot of retweets and Last night I was at this thing and she was there staring me down.
I'm like, this is it.
I can't do this She's gonna attack me right now.
And I was that's one of those things that I wish I never tweeted that because now she knows like She's an enemy.
Yeah, she's an enemy for no reason like it was just me like dude I should have said that you know to myself instead of tweeting it and Yeah, you could do that.
joe rogan
You could definitely create little enemies, you know, by tweeting something you think is going to be funny or going to get a big rise.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
And then, you know, you realize, especially if you get high, right?
You get really high and you go, why am I doing this?
I'm creating enemies.
brian redban
What am I doing, Jeff?
jeff ross
I always wait.
I always put it in my notebook and wait till the morning.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a good move.
But sometimes you got to be on the ball.
You got to be the first one to attack.
brian redban
Yeah.
jeff ross
Those days are over.
Who cares?
joe rogan
I took two hits today and went to yoga and was breaking down my whole life in that yoga class.
Oh my god.
The things I get upset about, things I don't get upset about.
Just, I need to be nicer.
Just calm the fuck down.
I'm too worked up.
I think I'm doing too many things in my life.
I really think that.
That's what I'm thinking.
I'm thinking I'm under too much pressure and stress.
And even though I'm cool about most things, there's certain times where I have a perfect reaction to something.
Like, I always bring up this time where the guy hit me on the highway in my car, fucking texting, rear-ended me, smashed into me.
But I had gone to yoga that day, smoked a little rainfall.
Felt great.
I loved the world.
I got out.
I was fine.
I wasn't hurt.
I wasn't even mad at the guy.
I went over to him.
I go, you okay?
And he's like, I'm sorry.
You know, I just fucked up.
I go, it's okay.
We all fuck up.
And then I go, do you have a license?
Because I don't have a license.
He didn't have a license.
He was illegal.
He's from Mexico.
And I thought about it.
I said, all right, I'm out of here.
And I just bailed.
I said, I don't want to call the cops because I don't want them to go to jail.
Because, look...
His car is fucked.
His car was fucked anyway.
His car was totaled.
He had a Civic and he, you know, sometimes you hit the brakes, your car goes down, like you go under the car.
So his car went kind of under my car, lifted my car up and sent my car flying.
So my car did not have that much damage.
It was only a beam that needed to be replaced in the back bumper area, which was all plastic.
So they just put a new piece of plastic and replaced the beam and it was good to go.
I had it back in a couple of weeks.
jeff ross
So if your car was total and you would have ruined his life and called the cops?
joe rogan
No, they would have had a tow me, so they would have known.
But I thought about it and I was like, this guy, you know, this guy, he got a shit roll of the dice.
He got a shit roll of the dice.
He made a mistake.
I'm not hurt.
Like, I'm okay.
And I can pay for this.
I can figure it out.
Like, I'm like, just get the fuck out of here.
I said, I'm just gonna go.
All right, man.
Nice to meet you.
Took a picture of his fake license.
jeff ross
You did?
joe rogan
Yeah, just in case some weird shit happened.
And he said, I did something.
And, you know, you never know.
And just get out of there.
He apparently has insurance.
I might actually get paid for this.
But the point being that the way I reacted to it, I wish I could react to it like that all the time.
But I don't know if I would.
Like, if I'm stressed out, I got a bunch of shit going on, and there's a fucking...
You hit this boiling point.
Where you come in on a four or five instead of at a zero.
You're coming in hot already, you know?
And I was thinking about that while I'm in yoga class.
I was like, there's times where my reaction to the thing is not entirely warranted by the situation itself, but is more dealing with all the different shit that I've got going on in my life.
I have too many things.
jeff ross
This is what I think, and this might be crazy, but I think this is part of the problems with police brutality and some of the mistakes that cops have made is they come in hot.
Their job is tough and other stuff's going on, and then you come from one thing to another, and they warrant different things.
Rules and disciplines and danger levels, but they're coming in not knowing or, you know, fired up.
Their blood pressure, I've talked to cops, especially in New York and Chicago, where they're on blood pressure medication and their families are stressed out and their job is more intense than it ever has been.
joe rogan
Oh, it's an incredibly intense job.
I couldn't even imagine it.
I mean, do you know cops?
Do you have any friends that are cops?
jeff ross
I'm getting to know more and more cops.
I've known cops all my life.
My karate teacher was a cop.
Ha!
joe rogan
So was mine.
My original karate teacher was Joe Esposito, Newton, Massachusetts.
jeff ross
Ronnie Roselli, Newark, New Jersey.
joe rogan
A lot of cops learn karate.
jeff ross
Italian cops.
joe rogan
Exactly, right?
I just think that the job of doing police work is probably, not only is it not for everybody, probably too easy to get.
It's probably too easy to be a cop.
Like some people, they don't have the right mentality for it.
jeff ross
I want to roast cops for my next comedy.
joe rogan
That's a great idea.
jeff ross
That's a great idea.
Gotta find a precinct.
It's not easy.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
I think LA would let you.
unidentified
Yeah.
brian redban
Burbank.
joe rogan
Burbank would let you, for sure.
jeff ross
I think Burbank's gonna tell the story, but maybe.
I don't know.
I might do a bunch of precincts.
joe rogan
Yeah, coming in hot.
So I figured that out in yoga class.
I just figured out I need to do yoga more.
I need to do something every day before I go out and face the world.
Every day.
Blow off some stress.
jeff ross
I spent some time at the beach lately, and that can also help.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah.
Why do you think people at the water are so mellow?
jeff ross
I don't know.
joe rogan
All beach communities are mellow.
jeff ross
It's just so relaxing, man.
joe rogan
It's also humbling.
jeff ross
Did a week at the Jersey Shore and a few days in Malibu, and it just...
joe rogan
We had some shit fixed in our kitchen, and so I rented a house for a while in Malibu.
I would never buy...
I don't think I'd buy a house on the water.
I think it's fucking crazy that waves come in.
You never know when they're going to come in.
jeff ross
I went out at night.
By myself, down to the water.
It was dark.
joe rogan
Scary.
jeff ross
I felt like you're having a trust with the ocean.
At any minute, it knows.
It could just swallow you up, but instead, it just creeps up to your feet and just says, hi!
It's just like, bam, at any second.
joe rogan
That had two floors and one floor was above the water looking down But the first floor was like the water would go right under the fucking bedroom Like you would see the waves come in and you would hear them crash underneath you and it was dark and I'm looking out this window and I was high as fuck I was looking out this window.
I was like, oh my god, this is crazy.
I can't sleep here.
I was like, this is nuts.
And I know that this fucking building's been here for, who knows, 10 years, whatever.
I know that a lot of the houses have been there since the 50s.
There's pictures.
It's like there's one of those restaurants down there that has these old black and white pictures on the wall.
But when you're there at night, it looks like a monster.
In the day, it's like this beautiful friend.
In the day, you look out there, like I'd have breakfast, and I'd sit down this little table, look out the window and eat eggs.
I'm like, God, this is amazing.
Look how beautiful it is just to be like...
Next to this alien world, this beautiful alien world, and I'd see sea lions or seals or whatever the fuck they are, and birds, and occasionally you'd see a fish splash around.
I'd be like, this is so beautiful.
But at nighttime, goddamn terrifying.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
But it's humbling.
I think that's one of the reasons why people that live in beach communities are so nice.
Because you just look out and it just smacks you in the face with, you ain't shit, dude.
jeff ross
It is so like that.
I was thinking, you could...
I was holding a...
A glass of sparkling water, like Perrier or something, out on the beach by myself.
And I was half done with it, and I just tossed it down into the ocean.
You just think, that's...
It's such a great equalizer.
This fancy cup of Perrier thinks it's so fucking important and high and mighty, you just drop it into an ocean.
It's nothing.
It's just nothing.
joe rogan
It makes no impact.
jeff ross
Nothing.
joe rogan
All beach communities are filled with mellow people, right?
Pretty much.
Never heard of an aggressive beach community.
brian redban
Long Beach?
joe rogan
Nah, that's like Snoop Dogg's neighborhood.
jeff ross
Architects, builders, contractors could spend 10 years building a skyscraper, the most beautiful.
People will never stare at it the way they stare at the ocean, which is just air floating, splashing.
joe rogan
Well, it just gives you this feeling of, like, it's a totally different world in front of you.
brian redban
Alright, Jersey Shore, no one's cool there, right?
joe rogan
They're not even paying attention to the water, they're just doing steroids and fucking.
Fist pump!
What happened to that?
How come that show went away?
brian redban
I don't know.
We shouldn't bring it up.
jeff ross
Hurricane Sandy.
joe rogan
That's what did it?
brian redban
Oh, yeah, that's right.
joe rogan
Did it?
jeff ross
No.
brian redban
Yeah, that beach is fucked.
joe rogan
No, people just got tired.
jeff ross
It's bouncing back.
I was just down at the Jersey Shore.
A lot of construction happening, a lot of activity, a lot of people out having fun at the boardwalks.
It was great.
unidentified
Yeah?
jeff ross
Can't wait to go back.
joe rogan
I used to do gigs out there.
I used to do gigs for Bob Gonzo.
jeff ross
I was on vacation down there.
Really?
I didn't get on stage once.
The beaches were beautiful, and the weather was perfect.
The water was just as warm as it is here.
joe rogan
Don't people have a bad opinion of the Jersey Shore, though?
Don't they think of it as you go there, it's just a bunch of orange guidos fucking and beating shit out of each other?
jeff ross
It's not like that.
Maybe it's evolved, or maybe that was just a show, showed it in a bad light, but...
It was great.
brian redban
There's that show, This Old House.
They did a long special about rebuilding the Jersey Shore.
And it's really interesting.
That's what I thought also.
It was just like this Myrtle Beach spring break thing the whole time.
It's very beautiful there.
joe rogan
Well, my uncle lives there.
My uncle lives on Jersey Shore.
He just sent me some driftwood.
He's an artist.
jeff ross
He sent me some shitty driftwood.
unidentified
It's gorgeous.
jeff ross
It looks like the Hamptons or any fancy, beautiful beach.
It's back.
It's bouncing back.
joe rogan
Doesn't Artie have a place down there?
jeff ross
I was there last weekend.
joe rogan
Yeah, I saw a picture of you guys together.
jeff ross
And he has a beautiful house right on a lake.
I mean, he has the dream.
A lake?
You walk into Artie Lang's house in the Jersey Shore, and if he didn't tell me he lived there, I would think, like, Mary Lou Henner lived there or something.
It's immaculately decorated, perfect nautical-themed white pillows everywhere.
There's no chance.
And he's like, yeah, my sister's a designer.
She did everything.
joe rogan
So does he stay there all the time or sometimes?
jeff ross
I think he's there most of the time and he has his whole man cave with all his Thurman Munson themed memorabilia.
He's just the best.
joe rogan
And he's got a place in Manhattan too?
Is that how he does it?
jeff ross
I think he has a place in New Jersey, like Hoboken, right near Manhattan.
joe rogan
Oh, that's right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jeff ross
Harney can't leave New Jersey.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
jeff ross
No, literally he has like a bracelet on his ankle.
joe rogan
He got visibly upset when I told him that I don't follow sports.
Like you could see, I was like, what?
I was less of a man in his eyes.
jeff ross
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, you can see it.
There's guys that are fucking crazy sports fanatics.
When you tell them you don't give a shit about sports, the only thing that saved me is I'm actually a sports commentator.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
So I'm kind of, you know, I don't fall into the hippie, hipster, whatever category that he would hate the most.
But he was disappointed in me as a man.
jeff ross
Really?
That's strange, but I guess he does love sports, man.
joe rogan
Loves it.
Well, he had that sports show that he was doing for a while with Nick DiPaolo.
jeff ross
I'm getting more into it.
joe rogan
Sports?
jeff ross
Doing a fantasy football app.
joe rogan
Get the fuck out of here.
jeff ross
Quick Draft.
joe rogan
An app?
jeff ross
Comes out in a few weeks.
joe rogan
Really?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You're producing an app?
jeff ross
I'm like the voice spokesman of it.
joe rogan
Look at you, you fucking animal.
jeff ross
Making funny videos.
joe rogan
That's a good idea.
jeff ross
Play fantasy football and talk shit with your friends.
joe rogan
Do you know football?
Do you understand it?
jeff ross
Yeah, I played high school football.
joe rogan
Yeah?
What's that guy's name with the giant arms, Jamie?
jeff ross
Popeye?
joe rogan
What's his name?
unidentified
Leron Landry.
joe rogan
Do you know who he is?
unidentified
I'll show you a picture.
joe rogan
Do you know who he is?
jeff ross
I think so, yeah.
joe rogan
Leron Landry.
You obviously don't know it like Jamie knows it.
Maybe you need a man like Jamie on your team.
This fucker knows a lot.
Look at this guy's arms.
He showed me this yesterday.
Get the fuck out of here.
What is that?
He said the dude's been busted a few times for steroids.
I said no way.
unidentified
He's holding steroids.
jeff ross
He doesn't even get the shirt on over that thing.
joe rogan
He just does it.
Shirt scared.
Shirt just goes over.
Okay, man.
Jesus Christ.
Scroll up.
What is that one with him holding the camera up?
He's got the phone up to the far right.
What the fuck is that?
Jesus Christ.
That is an enormous human being.
They didn't even make people like that a hundred years ago.
jamie vernon
Yeah, he's a safety, too, so those guys tend to be a little smaller than a linebacker or a lineman.
joe rogan
How much does that guy weigh?
How tall is he, rather?
jeff ross
I'll find his stats, but...
joe rogan
Yeah, find his stats.
It depends.
I mean, he could be like 5'7", and he'd still be 230 pounds, built like that.
He's a fucking giant.
jeff ross
He's beautiful.
joe rogan
You like it?
Six feet tall, 220. He's just an ape, filled with fucking testosterone and fury.
Goddamn, that's an athlete.
That's about as strong an athlete as you get.
Human beings, they're like, you know...
jeff ross
You would have made a great slave auctioneer back in the day.
joe rogan
Look at him that way.
But we're all apes.
I'm an ape.
You're an ape.
We're apes.
It's what humans are.
jeff ross
I'm just saying the way you break down a person's physical appearance.
joe rogan
That's what I do.
I'm a sports commentator, if you remember.
jeff ross
Full of thick testosterone.
joe rogan
That guy's a fucking...
That is a silverback.
That's a silverback gorilla.
brian redban
Look at the yams on that guy.
joe rogan
I mean, you never had a human being that was built like that a hundred years ago.
This is an entirely new era of humanity.
Like, you look at those Greek statues, those were exaggerated.
And that was the best they could imagine in their head.
Those guys are pussies.
Every one of those Greek guys.
They look like they barely work out.
You know, like, the biggest stud Greek statue.
Like, how does it compare to this guy?
Not even close.
Show me a Greek statue.
Show me, like, the best Greek statue.
Like, the most muscular of all the Romans or the Greeks.
Just some fucking animal.
I want to see what it looks like.
Because I guarantee it didn't look nothing like that, dude.
They just didn't even know that people were capable.
brian redban
Small dicks back then also.
joe rogan
Well, that's actually pretty big.
That guy's pretty yoked.
He's pretty studly, except for his little cock.
I wonder if people really did have little dicks back then, or if they just made them have little dicks so that everybody looking at the sculptures didn't feel bad.
Because, like, look at that guy's dick.
That's an enormous man with a fat guy's dick.
That is like a mushroom cap, and the guy looks huge.
That looks like the Hulk.
I take back everything I said.
I take back everything I said, though, because that guy's giant.
Is that real?
That guy's back?
Is that real?
Come on.
brian redban
Yeah, they were really fit, man.
joe rogan
That's real?
jeff ross
From a computer.
joe rogan
That doesn't seem real to me.
unidentified
Show David.
joe rogan
For some reason, we're looking at this guy's back that is insanely muscular, and it's a sculpture, but his ass cheeks are a little too big, and he's holding something in his hands.
jeff ross
Are you going to play your Nick Jonas Gilforet gif?
joe rogan
Come on, look at the muscles on that guy's back.
He looks like Vanderlei Silva when he was fighting in Pride.
Yeah, see that guy?
That guy's a pussy.
brian redban
Hi, guys.
joe rogan
That guy looks like a bitch.
brian redban
Condos.
joe rogan
Yeah, he looks like he's never done a squat in his life.
jeff ross
None of these guys can make the NFL. No.
joe rogan
No fucking way.
The athletes they have today, I think we all agree that the NFL athletes are the most impressive athletes in all sports, right?
Can we agree on that?
As far as, like, horsepower, about what they can do, the speed, coordination, right?
We all agree.
And I, you know, obviously I work for the UFC, right?
I think UFC athletes are incredibly impressive, but as far as what they have to be able to do, a UFC athlete has to be able to fight.
If it's a championship fight, you have to be able to fight five rounds, five minutes each round.
You just can't do that if you're built like an NFL player.
You just can't.
You can't do it.
It's not possible.
So that is a bodybuilder, though.
That's totally different.
That's modern.
That's a modern bodybuilder.
That guy could never fight in a UFC match.
Unless he won in the first 30 seconds, which is possible, That's the only way he'd be able to do it.
He just wouldn't have the juice.
There's no way he'd have the capacity to fight for five rounds.
There's just no way.
brian redban
Too much muscle.
Are current statues, like new statues that are made today of naked men, are their cocks the same size, or are they bigger nowadays?
joe rogan
It's a very good question.
I'm so glad you're here.
jeff ross
Start your research.
joe rogan
Let's go look.
Let's go look for giant cocks.
brian redban
What's the latest on naked statues?
jeff ross
Is your show always just homosexual?
Yeah.
joe rogan
Leaves to a lot of rumors.
jeff ross
Times are changing.
joe rogan
Leaves to a lot of rumors.
unidentified
What do I look for that?
New statue?
joe rogan
New black cock.
Just Google.
brian redban
Yeah, just do black cock.
unidentified
Olive Garden black cock 7. You guys ever eat anything around here?
joe rogan
Are you hungry?
brian redban
We got some jerky.
jeff ross
No.
joe rogan
What do you want?
We give you some food, but if you talk into the microphone while you're eating, everyone's going to be mad at you.
jeff ross
No, I won't.
joe rogan
Jeff Ross drove through traffic.
Did you Uber on the way over here?
Did you feel uncomfortable at all?
jeff ross
Why?
joe rogan
Did you ever get an uncomfortable Uber driver?
jeff ross
Oh, I mean, it's only annoying when they want to talk to you about...
They want to come into the show.
Or like...
I only hate it if you're on a date, because then you have some other dude just listening to your bullshit.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
You're trying to get some?
jeff ross
Thanks, dude.
joe rogan
Those cashews are very yummy.
All that stuff's good.
Those bars are great.
It's pro bars.
Those are the best.
jeff ross
I won't make any noise, but if I do, I'm sorry.
joe rogan
Don't worry about it.
jeff ross
This is fun, man.
I'm having a good time.
I'm glad you're here.
Enjoying the vibe.
joe rogan
You're at the Roast Battle pretty much every week when you're in town, right?
Yeah.
jeff ross
I had Jim Carrey last night.
joe rogan
That was the first place that I went back to when I came back to L.A., or came back to the Comedy Store.
I love it, man.
jeff ross
It's a lot of fun.
It's a movement.
joe rogan
It is a movement, right?
It feels like it.
It feels like...
I was talking about this on the message board today.
Someone was bringing up...
It might have been trolling.
I might have got sucked into a troll.
Talking about the old days, guys used to borrow each other's jokes, and it was like a tighter community back then.
It was like, man, I don't know about all that, but I think this is the tightest community ever for stand-up.
I think this is the best time ever for stand-up comedy.
I really do.
jeff ross
I love that.
joe rogan
I love it.
jeff ross
I just did Montreal Comedy Festival.
I'm hosting Oddball starting next week.
And I love comedians.
I do these festivals because I love being around comics.
It's like a religion.
I feel like I'm a comedian before I'm anything else.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, I agree with you.
jeff ross
You always want to see comedians, hang out with comedians.
I remember going to a Christmas party once at Al Roker's house, if I should tell this, but...
joe rogan
Go ahead.
jeff ross
And it's a very fancy Upper East Side Christmas party for charity fundraiser thing, and I walk in and there's like a...
You know, people, tuxedos, taking your coat when you come in and very handing out hors d'oeuvres and big, beautiful home, fireplace, Christmas music.
And I look over at the people, the coat check people.
It's like two, three people just sitting there and Chris Rock.
He would rather talk to the coat check people than these fancy people.
He was so bored.
And then I walk in and he's like, he ran over to me and he's like, oh my god, a comic!
I can talk to a comic!
This is so great!
Comics need to talk to comics.
brian redban
That's how I felt last night at this party.
It was just like...
joe rogan
Samsung?
brian redban
Yes, I went to this cool Samsung party where A $AP Rocky performed and that was really cool.
joe rogan
What is that?
brian redban
A $AP Rocky.
He's a musician.
He's good.
joe rogan
Yeah?
brian redban
What kind of music is that?
Yeah.
joe rogan
Rap.
Rap.
Okay.
brian redban
I love bad bitches, that's my fucking problem.
joe rogan
Really?
I love bad bitches, that's my fucking problem.
That's the Jeffrey Ross theme song.
brian redban
But it was, you know, super Hollywood douche.
Like, I hate those kind of people.
It was, like, in a studio lot where, I think, right next to Oprah's building.
So I don't know what studio that was.
Some weird studio lot.
And it was this humongous party.
It was awesome.
Samsung was showing all their new phones.
And I didn't want to talk to anyone because everyone was, like, beautiful models.
And just, like, you know, I was just sitting there like, this is gross.
Then I see Steven Glickman across the room.
I'm like, ah!
joe rogan
It was like the best day of my life just because I saw a comedian that I knew yeah I've been in that situation before it's cool those situations are cool when you you know you have that camaraderie you run into someone that you know yeah the old days baby I used to do news radio right next to...
Greg Giraldo had a sitcom for a while.
And Giraldo's sitcom would be right next to him.
Common Law.
Yeah.
They would be right next door.
And I'd go out, hang with him.
We'd just hang out in the parking lot and shoot the shit.
But it was always like, oh, you're not even an actor.
You're a comedian.
We're comics, right?
We'd talk about it, and he'd talk about how frustrating it was, because, you know, trying to do his show his way, all the producers and every, you know, the network and all the jazz that you have to deal with when you're trying to put together a sitcom.
It was like, you know, I just run into...
jeff ross
That's a cool memory.
joe rogan
Yeah.
There was a few guys, like Lenny Clark.
Lenny Clark was also on the set, on the lot, rather, because he was on that show with John...
What the fuck?
I want to say Lithgow, but it's not Lithgow.
It's the other guy.
Larroquette.
Yes, thank you.
He was on that show with John Larroquette.
I guess it was called the John Larroquette Show.
And I used to run into Lenny.
You know, just run into Lenny.
Hey, what the fuck?
How are ya?
unidentified
Yeah, I'm doing this fucking show with this cranky bastard.
joe rogan
Because Lithgow would fucking scream at everybody.
We'd watch the closed-circuit monitors, and Lithgow would get mad.
You guys remember your fucking lines?
You get crazy and shit.
But, you know, you run into a comic, whether it's at the airport or anything.
It's a nice thing.
jeff ross
We're always on the move.
Comics in an airport on a Sunday or a Thursday.
joe rogan
Yeah, that would be a good show.
unidentified
Just comics running into each other at an airport.
brian redban
A podcast that just gets randomly connected with another comic that just happens to be at the same airport.
joe rogan
Well, if you did that, you know, like, for real, if you wanted to do a show, say, like, Dallas is a big port, there's always big ports, and you set up a podcast studio in that port and said, you know, we'll be here...
Today's guest.
We're going to be here from 9am to 3pm.
Let us know if you're coming through, and maybe you can schedule your layover.
brian redban
You could create a studio in one of those lounges, like the American Airline Lounge.
jeff ross
Make it like the USO for comedians.
Like, hey, comedians, stop by the comedy lounge.
brian redban
And celebrities.
joe rogan
You know what you can do?
jeff ross
By gate 67A. Here we are, like...
joe rogan
You know what you could do too?
You could have one of those...
You know those massage places where they rub your back?
You sit in those chairs that your face goes first?
You could do that.
Like, we'd sit next to each other and get a massage, talk some shit, have the microphone looking up at us as those Asian ladies are rubbing your back.
jeff ross
Just make it.
That's awesome.
brian redban
That's a great idea.
joe rogan
It's not a bad idea.
Like, to just have people that are on a gig.
jeff ross
Like, where are you going?
Someone's going to take this.
Here's the idea.
joe rogan
It's okay.
jeff ross
You do, like...
You do, like...
Women have a little spa where they get their hands and just do it for guys.
joe rogan
A guy spa?
jeff ross
Yeah.
joe rogan
But you want to get your hands done?
jeff ross
No, you don't have to maybe do that, but other stuff.
joe rogan
Get your toes done?
Do you get a pedicure?
jeff ross
Get a little back rub, you listen to whatever.
I don't know, play some ping pong.
joe rogan
That wouldn't be bad if there's a spot where you could go and hang out, like a bar.
You know the comedy store has that private bar?
jeff ross
Yeah.
joe rogan
You could set something like that.
jeff ross
I danced there last night.
joe rogan
Did you dance?
jeff ross
It's so fun there.
joe rogan
Yeah?
Go ahead, chew.
Don't worry about it.
He's, like, holding back.
He's doing very well, though.
jeff ross
You haven't been to go this long without eating.
Really?
joe rogan
What's that about?
jeff ross
When I get off stage, I'll do an hour, hour, 15 minutes when I'm headlining, and I literally will have...
They'll still be clapping, and I'll already be halfway through a chicken salad on pita bread.
joe rogan
Really?
jeff ross
Yeah.
joe rogan
And if you have a second show, you'll do that?
You'll eat in between?
jeff ross
I always eat before the first show and in between the second show.
unidentified
Really?
jeff ross
It's crazy.
I just need food all the time.
joe rogan
I can't eat before I go on stage.
If I do, it slows...
jeff ross
I can't go on stage if I'm hungry.
I lose my mind.
unidentified
Really?
jeff ross
I'm too mean.
I lose...
I'm just...
joe rogan
Wow.
Jeff Ross.
jeff ross
Although...
joe rogan
That's a little cranky.
jeff ross
It's not fun for me, but I think it's still funny for the audience.
Because I used to have an old girlfriend who used to say, the crankier I was, the funnier I was.
Like, if I got really mad, it would just be so funny.
joe rogan
That's what she likes.
She likes you getting dirty.
jeff ross
Yeah.
joe rogan
Boom, the pants off.
unidentified
Boom, boom, boom, boom.
brian redban
Yeah, I try to eat before and I just fall asleep.
I feel like I'm really tired on stage.
joe rogan
You gotta digest that stuff.
You would never eat before you fought.
You would never have a sandwich and then go fight.
Ever.
Because you wouldn't have all your resources.
There's a certain amount of your body that would be breaking down your food.
jeff ross
I guess, but it's not quite the same as telling jokes for an hour.
joe rogan
Not quite the same, but the energy level won't be the same.
Your energy level.
Like, you won't have as much resources dedicated to...
Like, have you ever gone on stage dehydrated?
jeff ross
That's a problem.
joe rogan
That's bad.
jeff ross
That's harder for me.
When you've just been drinking too much coffee, you haven't slept, haven't had enough water.
joe rogan
I was in Disneyland all day once, all day, in the summer.
It was like July.
It was bad.
It was fucking hot as shit.
And I was there with my kids, and we'd stay the night there.
You know, you get a hotel room at the Disneyland Hotel and the whole deal.
And, you know, you're fucking going through the park.
It's hot as shit.
There's a million people.
You might not drink enough water.
And that night, man, I hit the wall.
I did two shows.
And the first show, I pulled it off.
But the second show, my fucking head was throbbing.
And I was thinking to myself, like, I'm really dehydrated here.
This is not good.
Probably one of the worst ways to be on stage is to be dehydrated.
Your brain just doesn't work right.
It just doesn't fire.
jeff ross
I had that in Iraq.
I got dehydrated and couldn't after a bunch of shows and traveling and not drinking enough water and over-caffeinating to make up for not sleeping and being nervous.
That was what happened.
It sent me to the infirmary, to the medical tent in the middle of, I think it was Al-Assad or Fallujah.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
jeff ross
With an IV bag.
joe rogan
How many times have you been over there?
jeff ross
A couple.
joe rogan
Yeah?
You like it?
jeff ross
I'm not sure what you mean.
joe rogan
Well, you were saying that you...
It's a pretty straightforward question.
jeff ross
I love going to Iraq.
It is so much, especially around my birthday when I can really party.
There's some great clubs in Al-Assad.
joe rogan
You were saying that doing the prison was a lot like doing a USO gig.
jeff ross
In that you're bringing laughs where there normally aren't any, and it's politics and all that, and whether people deserve a show and all that, you can just put that aside for a second.
As a comedian, just going in and that challenge of making people laugh that are miserable, I love that.
I feed off that.
I remember trying to make my mom laugh when she was sick and stuff.
I love that challenge of trying to break somebody who's just a little frozen.
joe rogan
You're like a little run uphill.
jeff ross
Yeah.
joe rogan
Jeff Ross.
jeff ross
Yeah.
I remember being early in my career seeing Buddy Hackett perform.
I didn't know him, but I knew his son Sandy, and Sandy let me come by myself at the end of a run in Atlantic City, and Buddy was there the next day, so I stayed an extra day to see the Buddy Hackett show.
It was kind of a late afternoon, early Sunday show, and I remember Buddy right out of the gate Saw some lady taking notes.
She was a reporter and he didn't know about it ahead of time or whatever.
He called her a cunt right in literally the first 45 seconds of walking on stage and just the whole audience.
joe rogan
You note-taking cunt!
jeff ross
Yeah.
She was mortified.
She tried to say, I'm from the so-and-so Herald and he just wouldn't hear it and he just called her a cunt and he just put a really weird vibe in the room right out of the gate and You know, eventually the show, you know, went on and it was amazing.
But literally a decade later, Buddy became a very close pal and I could ask him anything.
And I said, you'd never remember this, man, but like 10 years ago in Atlantic City at the Trumpat Castle or whatever, some lady, you know, he's like, well, I go, why would you do that?
Like right away, just for no reason, just...
Could you imagine what might have been happening in your head, buddy?
And he's like, oh, I do that all the time.
I like to dig myself a hole just to make it interesting.
unidentified
Oh!
jeff ross
Just to see if I could dig myself out of the hole.
joe rogan
That does make it interesting.
Do you do that with new bits?
I do that with new bits sometimes.
jeff ross
How do you mean?
joe rogan
I give myself like a pause on a new bit.
I give myself like a fucking dead end where I have to come up with some way to get out of it.
Like I'll lull myself into it.
Like sometimes...
Tommy Segura has the best description of when a bit is not that good, but you kind of jazz it up and make it good, you try too hard.
He calls it dance moves.
I'll have a bit, and the way I used to say it, I used to call it English.
Like English on the cue ball.
jeff ross
Put a little English on it.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's spinning around too much.
I'm like, those balls are spinning around too much.
There's too much English on this fucking set.
It's just too much nonsense and jazz.
But Tommy had a better expression, dance moves.
And that's kind of what it is sometimes.
Sometimes a bit, it's not that good.
It starts out kind of good.
You have an idea, and you're trying to figure out which way to take it.
But sometimes you jazz it up too much with performance, but not enough with substance.
And you just kind of try to figure out what's the line between those two things.
jeff ross
It holds you up sometimes when you know you got something and you're developing it and you have a couple of tent poles that maybe you won't need once the whole thing's built.
It's like a scaffolding.
joe rogan
Yes, that's how I describe it, the same way.
I was having a conversation with Tony Hinchcliffe about this.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
joe rogan
Because there was a subject that was a little...
He was doing a subject that was kind of mean.
And I said, you're dedicating a lot of time to this bit that I know you don't really think like this.
Like, you don't mean this, right?
And he goes, no.
I'm like, but what if somebody has this disease that's in the audience and they hear this or someone who knows somebody?
I go, you're taking all this time and creativity and you're putting it together with something you don't necessarily believe in.
And I said, you got to think of a bit as like a subject is the scaffolding.
And then inside that scaffolding, you put all your material.
And that's what you're doing.
You know, and when you create a new bit, sometimes you do have those dance moves.
Sometimes you do have those, and sometimes I'll just chop them down and leave, and I'll start it out good, and I'll just hope there's a pathway that opens up in my brain when I'm in the moment and contemplating the bit.
Where I know there's a lull there and I know I gotta dig myself out of the lull.
Maybe I'll find it.
And I don't find it.
Sometimes I don't find it.
Sometimes you'll do a bit three, four times and you're like, I'm ready to abandon this motherfucker.
And then, boom, something pops up and you're like, oh, this is it.
Oh, this is it.
jeff ross
Or you go back to it.
joe rogan
Yes.
Or you go back to it.
Yeah, you take a little time off.
jeff ross
Yeah.
joe rogan
Put it aside.
jeff ross
You know what else I noticed?
I don't think this happens as much anymore, but...
You'll have a bit that you're not...
When I was beginning, this is good for beginning comics, you have a bit that's okay, and you kind of like it, but it doesn't quite work.
And I went back to old notebooks, or it just came back to me one night, and you become a better performer, and you can sell a different type of bit.
It's more in your new voice, or you can just sell it better, or you know the English better, like you say.
And you go back to an idea that you weren't ready for.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Like, maybe you didn't see the way out.
You didn't see the pathway.
jeff ross
Or it didn't fit with your bullshit act that you were doing when you were starting.
joe rogan
Yes.
I like how you're doing this right now with a fucking mouthful of food like a squirrel, but you're completely professional.
You tuck it all to the side, chipmunk style, and you didn't chew once on the mic.
Brian Callen can learn from you.
jeff ross
I've been doing this a while.
This is my first podcast, Joe Rogan.
joe rogan
Do you have a podcast?
jeff ross
No.
joe rogan
How the fuck is that possible?
jeff ross
I don't know.
I could barely work a garage door opener.
This would be really hard for me.
joe rogan
Just get somebody like Jamie or Brian to do it.
jeff ross
Sorry I don't have a fucking remodeled garage that I can put up three pictures of Elvis, Jimi Hendrix, and I'm still trying to figure out...
joe rogan
Rosa Parks.
jeff ross
Rosa Parks, really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
jeff ross
Okay, she was hot.
joe rogan
No.
brian redban
No.
What are you, crazy?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
No, you're just crazy.
brian redban
Now we know your type.
jeff ross
Let the record show.
Al Qaeda has the same decorators as the Joe Rogan studio.
joe rogan
Really?
They're into Rosa Parks?
jeff ross
Just saying.
Pictures of...
joe rogan
I found out that Hendrix is not the real fucking Hendrix mugshot from Toronto.
brian redban
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Sons of bitches.
jeff ross
Wow.
joe rogan
They sold this to me in Hawaii, too.
That's an iconic Jimi Hendrix photo that they stuck on the actual writing from when his mugshot was.
So I bought the real mugshot.
Jamie, do we have it in the back?
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
Don't worry about it.
I got the real mugshot from Hendrix, so that will be replaced with the real one.
jeff ross
Interesting.
joe rogan
In my new studio.
brian redban
I'll take it.
joe rogan
You can take it.
jeff ross
Actually, this is all very cool.
joe rogan
Thank you.
brian redban
Do you know a YouTube star, or have you ever heard of a guy named Joey Grasifo?
This guy right here.
This guy right here.
So he is like this really super popular famous YouTube star, I guess.
And there's this guy named Brock Baker, a really funny comedian and writer here in Los Angeles.
And he makes these really funny videos called Angry Man.
And he did this thing and he talks about this YouTube star because he has a book out.
And if you read the back of the book...
What it says on the back of the book cover, it is one of the most creepiest things ever.
The guy's 24 and all his fans are like young kids, like 8th grade to like 13, 14, 15, you know, kind of like the Twilight kids.
joe rogan
That's his fans?
brian redban
That's his fans.
And he's 24. And he's 24. If you read the back, Jamie, do you have it pulled up?
Because it would be funnier if you check this out.
Read this right here.
joe rogan
It's not where you begin that matters.
It's where you end up.
Go ahead.
brian redban
24-year-old Joey whatever has captured the hearts of more than 4 million teens and young adults through his playful, sweet, and inspirational YouTube presence, not to mention his sparkling eyes and perfect hair.
This is like a book about him and he has this on the back of his cover.
joe rogan
Yet Joey wasn't always comfortable in his skin, and in this candid memoir, he thoughtfully looks back on his journey from pain to pride, self-doubt to self-acceptance.
That's an important message.
brian redban
If you just Google this guy's name, the images that come up is some of the funniest shit ever.
Because he really does, like, he's in love with his hair.
joe rogan
Okay, so you just made another enemy, just like you said.
So you're going to run into the next Samsung party.
You're going to see this fucking guy.
He's going to want to feed you your teeth.
brian redban
It's so funny, though.
I don't know.
Just look at the YouTube videos.
It's hilarious.
He's really addicted to his hair.
joe rogan
Why didn't you do what we talked about earlier and just write that down and think about whether or not you want to talk about it tomorrow?
brian redban
Well, I'm not really making fun of it.
joe rogan
Oh, yes, you are.
brian redban
He really likes his hair, but all his pictures on Google are just perfect hair, like this crazy Johnny Bravo hair.
Never mind.
joe rogan
It's okay.
brian redban
Good look at it.
unidentified
It's funny.
joe rogan
I'm not going to, but thank you for your suggestion.
brian redban
You're going to look at it later.
joe rogan
Jeff Ross, what do you got going on, man?
Besides Oddball, you got some gigs coming up?
jeff ross
University of Rhode Island's coming up.
I think it's in September.
joe rogan
That's interesting.
You're doing colleges still.
With this fucking big backlash lately, the kids are saying that everybody's too politically correct to do colleges.
Seinfeld doesn't want to do colleges.
jeff ross
Every now and then, I find a really cool college.
joe rogan
Yeah?
You think so?
University of Rhode Island's a good spot?
jeff ross
Yeah.
joe rogan
Do they let you do anything?
Get away with anything?
jeff ross
I haven't been given any restrictions.
joe rogan
Do you feel like kids are a little bit more sensitive these days, though?
jeff ross
I think people are.
I feel like people are more sensitive.
joe rogan
Do you think they're more sensitive or do you think they have the opportunity to complain more?
jeff ross
Both.
I think it's become, you know, the egg before the chicken and the egg because, I don't know.
How's it...
I think people are just looking for things.
Everyone feels like a victim.
Everyone sounds like a victim all the time.
I'm offended, or I don't know how to see this, or I don't know how to hear that.
joe rogan
They found another guy faking black.
Have you seen that?
jeff ross
No.
joe rogan
Have you seen that?
Another guy, a part of the Black Lives Matter.
jeff ross
I feel like people have been doing this forever.
joe rogan
Yeah, but these are like activists that are doing it, which is kind of adorable.
It's on Breitbart.
A young man named Sean King.
There's another fake black guy.
brian redban
What?
joe rogan
You know the Rachel Dolezal?
She claimed to be black, but she was actually white.
She said she identifies with black.
unidentified
You know that?
joe rogan
They found another dude who does the same thing.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
And he's a part of the Black Lives Matter...
jeff ross
Oh, God.
brian redban
Oh, my God, really?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's interesting.
I mean, he looks really, really white.
But he has that kind of creepy mustache that some black eyes can pull off.
There's his dad.
His mom's white as well.
There's photos of him as a young kid, totally white, but talked about his struggles of being an African-American, how he was always bullied, and throws a lot of pictures up, I guess, that are...
Black and white.
And here's the thing, you know, there's nothing wrong with being a white guy that works for Black Lives Matter.
jeff ross
He tweeted, I love my blackness and yours.
brian redban
Look at that.
joe rogan
That he said?
Oh my god.
brian redban
That's awesome.
joe rogan
Well, he's got black sunglasses on, or glasses.
Oh, what is that?
Is that me?
Oh, I hate those goddamn pop-ups.
jeff ross
I feel like I'm colorblind.
I don't even see...
I don't even assess people's race right away.
joe rogan
Me neither, man.
I'm fucking completely colorblind, man.
jeff ross
That seems like a natural progression of the way people think.
Weird people like this are going to crop up.
joe rogan
Well, this guy that I really like, Milo Yiannopoulos, I'm not exactly sure how to say his last name correctly, but it's Nero, N-E-R-O, on Twitter.
And he's a fucking funny writer, man.
And he's a really good speaker, too.
He's hilarious.
He does these interview shows, and he's always saying logical things and having logical arguments against feminists.
If you like Google some of these, Milo Yiannopoulos, and they can't fucking say anything about him because he's gay and he has blonde hair and he's super articulate.
So because he doesn't look like, you know, like one of the guys from Jersey Shore, he's not like, you know, a lot of these guys that are representing men's rights, they kind of look douchey.
You know, they kind of look like bros.
He's gay.
And he's open about it, and he's fabulous, and he's got a great vocabulary.
But when he's describing, or when he's giving these arguments and debating, rather, these women, he's crushing them.
Because he was talking about diversity in science, and he's like, well, the cold hard truth is, it's not that women are discouraged from doing science.
It's that a lot of them aren't attracted to it.
Men and women have different states of mind.
And boys and girls, when they're young, if you give them, like, equal access to toys, boys naturally will gravitate towards, like, trucks and cars, and girls will naturally gravitate towards dolls.
It has nothing to do with it.
Yeah, here's one of them on Sky News, why men are better at chess.
unidentified
Listen, look at them.
How do you feel about being called different because you're hardwired differently?
I don't know.
I'm sure it's not something you've failed to hear before.
It just seems to keep cropping up.
Is it necessary?
It's just...
It's ridiculous.
It's 50s thinking, you know.
I mean, it's just so ridiculous, this biological determinism.
Frankly, you know, interests and talent and, you know, passions for particular topics, subjects, sports, arts, whatever, like, they're not relegated to either gender, but unfortunately, because of some stereotypical thinking...
Often, one gender is encouraged to pursue a sport or an art more so than the other.
It's bullshit!
My colleague at The Telegraph, Radhika Sagani, she wrote a piece just this morning speaking to...
Like young girls who play chess.
And actually, what she found out is that they're dropping out at the age of 12. Probably because, you know, they're not encouraged or, you know, there's an environment around telling them that it's not for them, it's not cool, etc, etc.
So, you know, this hardwired brain stuff, like, it's retro sexism.
joe rogan
No, listen to what he says.
unidentified
So Milo Yiannopoulos, does he matter if men and women are wired differently, have different skills?
milo yiannopolis
No, it doesn't matter in the sense that they are equal but different, but it simply isn't true to say that there is no difference whatsoever between the aptitudes of men and women.
And it is without question true that there are some biological differences between men and women, and we know that from our anatomy.
unidentified
But we also know it from experiments that we do on young children, before they've had the opportunity to be socialized, the sorts of toys that they go for.
And that holds true, actually, for other bits of the animal kingdom as well.
milo yiannopolis
Some of the reason why girls drop out of STEM subjects at college and chess clubs is because they keep losing.
And one of the reasons they keep losing is that it does seem to be the case that chess as a game plays to some of the male intellectual virtues.
And when Simon Baron-Cohen talks about these, the way he describes it is men are good at systematizing And women are good at empathizing.
unidentified
And there is some reason to suppose that that may have some basis in biology.
milo yiannopolis
It's very trendy these days to say that everything is socially determined, but that's not what the science says.
And it's not either what common sense says, because if it were true, these days there would be a lot more representation of women in the sciences, in astrophysics, in philosophy, in mathematics, and in chess.
unidentified
But there isn't.
joe rogan
Boom!
unidentified
So, Renny, does that make sense?
joe rogan
That's done.
That chick should just go home.
brian redban
She just pooped her stuff.
joe rogan
Just go home.
Because it's true.
It's not saying that men are better or women are better, but the idea that there's no difference between us and biological determinism is bullshit.
That's just ridiculous.
So, that dude is hilarious, and he's the guy who busted this guy.
He's the guy who had the article in Breitbart about this guy who's actually white and pretends to be black.
He's great, though.
I love his writing.
I love listening to him talk.
The guy's just, he nails it every time.
Dude's hilarious.
Yeah.
Yeah, he'll be on soon.
He's gonna, he'll be on here in a couple weeks for working something out.
unidentified
Hmm.
joe rogan
Jeffrey Ross is here now, though.
And now he's had some food.
Expertly eaten off mic.
jeff ross
Nobody would know anything if you didn't call me out, by the way.
I would have been all carved up and rejuvenated.
joe rogan
I love what you did.
I love how you handled it.
You did it professionally.
jeff ross
You guys got to watch some fucking bullshit about shit I don't care about.
What do you care about?
joe rogan
What do you think about Trump?
What do you think about Trump?
jeff ross
I feel like he has Charlie Sheen writing his material.
We're a nation of losers.
We need to be winners.
unidentified
Winning!
joe rogan
Yeah.
jeff ross
If he wins, I said this at the comedy store last night, if he wins, it's proof that there's no Illuminati in this country.
joe rogan
Or he's a part of it.
jeff ross
Or he's a part of it, but that seems unlikely.
joe rogan
That he's a part of the Illuminati?
Yeah.
Why would they want billionaires in the Illuminati?
jeff ross
Nah.
He's rogue.
He's on his own.
joe rogan
He's fucking crazy, huh?
jeff ross
I've roasted him a couple times.
joe rogan
Yeah?
jeff ross
He's a good sport.
He doesn't show it, but he is.
joe rogan
Really?
What's he like as a person?
jeff ross
Uh, he's engaging.
He likes to ask a lot of questions.
unidentified
He likes to listen.
joe rogan
About Mexicans?
jeff ross
Nah, we were on a pleasure trip down to Mar-a-Lago on his plane, me and Bruce Smirnoff.
joe rogan
Really?
jeff ross
Quite a while ago.
joe rogan
Nice to be back in the day.
I haven't heard that name in forever.
jeff ross
How's he doing?
He's very generous.
joe rogan
Bruce Smirnoff.
jeff ross
Yeah, Bruce and I on Trump's plane.
I remember the Donald.
joe rogan
This had to be in the 90s.
jeff ross
Yeah, something like that.
No, early 2000s, I think.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
So you're chilling on his plane.
jeff ross
We go down to Mar-a-Lago.
Where's that?
In Palm Beach, Florida.
Donald Trump's golf country club facility there.
Very fancy, very beautiful.
He gave us a Cadillac, Bruce and I, to tour around with for the weekend.
I did a show on the Saturday night.
Donald brought me up himself.
joe rogan
Really?
jeff ross
Not an easy crowd.
joe rogan
I wouldn't think so.
jeff ross
You know, very formal, you know, the whole thing.
joe rogan
Bunch of creepy one-percenters on Adderall.
jeff ross
But very, very elegant and, in the end, very appreciative crowd.
And I roasted them at the Friars Club once, and I roasted them on Comedy Central once.
I remember him not laughing at all for like three comedians, and I went up to him during the commercial break, and I'm like, Donald, you have to at least smile so we have something to cut to other than other people laughing at you.
And he's like, oh, okay, I get it now.
So he's sort of smiling and enjoying himself a little bit.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
What a weird guy he is, huh?
He's in a strange...
There he is right there.
brian redban
Nice and orange.
joe rogan
Yeah, what's the orange all about?
brian redban
He wears a lot of makeup.
joe rogan
Is that makeup or is that like spray tan shit?
brian redban
From my HDTV, it always looks like caked on makeup.
joe rogan
He's got the original kissy face.
Go back to the other picture.
That's a kissy face.
jeff ross
That's a puss.
He's got a puss on.
brian redban
Sour puss.
joe rogan
But there he doesn't have it.
So what is he doing there?
brian redban
Pouty.
That's pouty.
joe rogan
Donald Trump.
You think it's possible that he could win?
How close do you think he's gonna get?
He's kind of a shoe-in for the Democrats, is what he is.
jeff ross
What do you mean?
joe rogan
Because a lot of people that would vote Republican are going to vote for him.
If he stays in, it's going to make things, especially if he goes independent, which is totally possible, right?
jeff ross
Yeah.
joe rogan
If he goes independent, he could be Ross Perot-ing this motherfucker.
Ross Perot sunk the ship of Herbert Walker Bush because everybody was torn between who to vote for.
There was the libertarian people that would have maybe possibly voted more fiscally conservative, so they would have gone with the Republicans.
Instead, they went with Ross Perot because he was laying it down how the taxes were and what the fuck was actually going on.
Whereas, that opened the door for Clinton.
brian redban
What do you think about Bernie Sanders?
joe rogan
I like him.
I like what he's saying about education.
And I fucking hate when people say, you know, yeah, that's great.
I'm gonna have fucking people being educated on my tax dollars.
What about my tax dollars?
What about war?
Don't you know how much more it costs to go to war than it costs to educate people?
Don't you think it would be better if we had less people that were uneducated in this country or if we had less people that were leaving college in fucking massive debt?
If you're a kid, okay, if you're 18 to 21 years old, which is most people that are in college, You don't need to be saddled down with hundreds of thousands of dollars in education debt.
That's fucking gross.
It's gross and it's stupid and it speaks to poor management of our civilization.
That's what I think about our situation in America when it comes to colleges and the amount of money that kids get straddled down with.
Saddled down, rather, with debt.
They're fucked.
You know, especially if you talk to someone who goes to medical school.
Jesus Christ!
jeff ross
Right.
joe rogan
My friend, he was hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt before he left medical school.
Hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Just fucked!
Like it takes you forever to make that money because you don't just make the hundreds of thousands of dollars, you gotta make a living too.
jeff ross
And incentivize you to deal with the system the way it is and not adapt to some new health plan in this country or whatever.
You just gotta get your nut.
joe rogan
Well, it becomes a game.
It becomes a game.
Just like the cop thing we're talking about, the cop thing.
It becomes a game of convicting people, going after people, convicting them, getting the win, getting the victory.
Well, with doctors, it becomes a matter of getting people to have surgery.
I had a friend of mine tell me, when he was 16 years old, he was working as a Like, some vacation resort.
You know, he's working as, like, somebody who works at the resort.
And he said he overheard these fucking doctors talking about talking someone into getting an operation.
And they were going, cha-ching!
They were just talking about how, you know, I talked him into getting this, and that means I get this.
Like, they were talking about it like a guy was talking about selling Chevys.
It's like, and these all doctors, they were together.
So just like comics would get together and shoot the shit, doctors get together and shoot the shit.
What did you do?
I told them to get a fucking fake knee.
Giving each other knuckles.
And he goes, it changed forever the way I thought about doctors.
He goes, I left, you know, I didn't work there anymore.
I never thought about doctors the same way because of that conversation those guys had.
I would have never been privy to that in any of the circumstances.
But a few guys sitting around at a resort, having a couple cocktails, getting a little loose with the lip.
We found out what they were really all about.
It's because they're fucked.
They're fucked not just with the amount of money that they have to pay for their education, but also malpractice insurance is crazy.
jeff ross
My cousin is a surgeon.
He was in practice in New Jersey for years and said, fuck it.
I'm going to work for an emergency room where I share.
And it just took a lot of pressure off him in his life.
And I think he got happier and probably became a better doctor.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, that's what I think about Bernie Sanders.
jeff ross
A lot of responsibility, a lot of constant work to run the practice and protect yourself.
joe rogan
It is.
It is.
And you know, people do need to be protected.
I mean, there are doctors that fuck up.
We showed that lady who got her feet fucking amputated and her hands amputated.
And they fucked up.
They literally amputated the wrong person's feet and hands.
jeff ross
That's crazy.
joe rogan
This is fucked up.
brian redban
You see the Sarah Silverman, Bernie Sanders video?
She did a speech for him.
unidentified
Really?
brian redban
And it was really powerful.
And it's really cool that she did that because, you know, Bernie is somebody I think a lot of people, younger people, would like also.
Because on Facebook, a lot of the younger people I'm friends with are always posting Bernie Sanders.
joe rogan
Why are you friends with little kids, man?
The fuck's going on?
brian redban
I'm talking six-year-olds.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
But did you see the giant rallies that he's put together, including one in LA? There's like 18,000 people seeing him in LA. That's great.
Well, he gives you hope that there's someone that represents a more open-minded, a more current point of view, I think.
And I think, you know...
There's this fucking Ted Cruz and all these people that are running and you're like, ooh.
You look at them and you go, this guy can't win.
Can he win?
You see guys like that and you go, oh, come on.
Is this real?
Like Chris Christie.
Is that real?
Can he really win?
You get more standoffish and scared by it than anything.
jeff ross
He had to run because...
Of all the scandals he had.
Otherwise it would have made him seem guilty.
unidentified
Really?
jeff ross
That's what I think.
I think he had to run in order to go, everything's fine.
joe rogan
Yeah.
That's an interesting way of looking at it.
jeff ross
I'm from New Jersey.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's me too.
I was born in Newark.
jeff ross
Me too.
joe rogan
Shut the fuck up.
unidentified
That's crazy.
joe rogan
When were you born?
jeff ross
65. You're older than me.
joe rogan
67. August 11th.
jeff ross
September 13th.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
Basically two years apart from each other, pal.
jeff ross
Here we are.
joe rogan
Same hospital, maybe.
What hospital?
jeff ross
Beth Israel?
Is that the name of it?
joe rogan
I don't even remember.
I was hoping you would say something.
I'd go, that sounds like mine.
jeff ross
Yeah.
joe rogan
I'll have to ask my mom.
brian redban
You guys didn't go, like, know each other at all?
joe rogan
We met each other in New York in like 1990, maybe?
91, maybe?
When did you start?
What year did you start doing stand-up?
unidentified
April Fool's Day, 1989. Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah, I started in 88, August 27th, 1988. Where was that?
Stitches, Boston.
And I made it to New York somewhere around 90, 91. That's probably when I met you.
jeff ross
We'll meet it.
I was backing up at Catch a Rising Star.
joe rogan
Aha!
Didn't we meet at Boston Comedy, maybe?
jeff ross
Probably.
unidentified
Is that where we met?
jeff ross
I would host there and do spots there.
joe rogan
It was a great little spot, wasn't it?
jeff ross
It was good.
joe rogan
That was a great little spot.
That was one of those really tiny rooms.
Like, that was a 90-seater, like, maybe?
jeff ross
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Did it even seat 90?
jeff ross
Probably something like that.
Maybe a little more.
joe rogan
In the village?
jeff ross
I'm going to say 120, but I could be off.
unidentified
Let's get crazy.
joe rogan
Let's say 120. Yeah, it was a great little spot.
jeff ross
Charlie Barnett, there's a cool article about him in the New York Times last week.
Charlie Barnett, who died of AIDS. Sad, sad, sad story.
But he was the king of the park in Washington Square Park, and he would go on at that Boston Comedy Club and the Comedy Cellar.
joe rogan
Well, he would do a lot of sets out on the street.
He would do shows on the street.
He'd throw his hat down.
And Dave Chappelle used to, like, he learned from him.
jeff ross
Right.
joe rogan
Chappelle used to do a lot of shows like that.
I saw him do it in Montreal.
We did a show at Club Soda.
Remember Club Soda?
jeff ross
Yeah, it's still there.
joe rogan
Yeah.
They called it something different now, though, isn't it?
jeff ross
Oh, is it?
joe rogan
I think so.
Anyway, we did a show at Club Soda, and then outside, Dave just starts, just like, gather round, gather round, and he starts doing stand-up.
jeff ross
He got all that from Charlie.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jeff ross
Dave and I both lived on the sides of that park, and we used to watch Charlie all the time, and then I think when Charlie passed away, Dave kind of took over that mantle in the fountain on the weekends, and sometimes during the week, and he really found his voice, I think, in that park.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
So you guys used to go and watch Charlie perform in the park?
jeff ross
For hours and just hang out with him.
unidentified
What was that like?
jeff ross
It was great.
You had to get your work done back then.
We lived in small apartments.
There were no cell phones.
You had to do whatever you were going to do.
If it was an email or a phone call, you had your phone in your house and you went and did all that.
You left messages and got messages.
And you went out.
When you were out, you were present in the moment and you were loving every second of it.
Dave and I would hang around Washington Square Park and try to talk to NYU girls who were studying and whatever we could do and find some weed and we would brainstorm and write jokes and we'd eat lunch in the park and listen to music.
There was always the acrobats were in the park and Master Lee, a karate comic, would come and Charlie Barnett, this guy that was just hilarious, would, you know, like you said, he would jump up on the fountain and Showtime!
It's showtime!
And all his jokes are real simple and he could work the crowd.
A homeless guy walks by, he had a joke.
Japanese tourists walks by, he has a joke, he'd mimic him.
You know, and you know, it was a great show for anyone, 8 to 80, rich or poor.
Even if you don't speak English, you're laughing at Charlie.
He was so physical and funny, and it was a great time.
I remember there were riots in Los Angeles.
It might have been Rodney King, and we got warnings in New York to be careful.
There might be riots in New York, and Charlie walked me home.
He's like, yeah, I'm going to have your N-word walk you home.
He was just real endearing, and I loved him.
He was great.
joe rogan
Well, he was supposed to do Saturday Night Live, but apparently when he got there, they realized that he couldn't read.
jeff ross
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's kind of a crazy story.
You know, I mean, he was like a hot comic.
A lot of people wanted him to do things, but he didn't know how to read.
jeff ross
I don't know.
He was super, super funny.
joe rogan
It's interesting that he had that style, you know, that that style influenced a lot of people.
That style of like doing street comedy, you know, just gathering a crowd out of nowhere.
jeff ross
I never had the guts to go on outside like that, but Chappelle watched him and watched him and watched him and Charlie sort of bringing him up every now and then.
He'd let him do a few minutes and Eventually, Dave, that just became one of his chapters.
It was amazing to watch.
Charlie was loud and his jokes were really short.
Dave was more soft-spoken and his jokes were longer.
So to see that in the park was fascinating because the park had to come to Dave a little bit and you really saw, at least I really saw, Having hung out there every night that every day, you know, sometimes Dave would do a few couple shows on a Sunday in the park and he'd make real fans and he got a real sense of who he was right there doing that.
I mean, it was magic to see a young genius in the middle of the public, just being him and having the public come to him, gravitate to him.
It was a once-in-a-lifetime thing to see.
joe rogan
That's cool.
I got a chance to see him perform at Catch Rising Star when he might have been 18. How old is Dave now?
Don't ask.
Look on the fucking computer.
I'm asking you because you got a computer in front of you.
brian redban
How old is Dave Chappelle?
45. How old is Dave Chappelle?
joe rogan
Dave Chappelle is 41. Okay, so he's six years, seven years younger than me.
So that doesn't even make sense.
Because I was only like 23. Is that true?
jeff ross
Maybe he didn't get it.
joe rogan
Is that right?
41?
That doesn't make sense.
brian redban
He's 42, because he was born August 24th, 1973, and I was born in 74, and I'm 41. Well, that's five days from now.
joe rogan
It was the 24th.
brian redban
1973, though.
So he's 42. Next week.
joe rogan
Next week.
Next week he's 42. Oh, I see.
He got mad.
jeff ross
Damn it!
joe rogan
My math skills!
So if he's 42, I must...
Fuck, man.
That doesn't make any sense.
I guess maybe I was two...
So he's six years younger than me?
So I was...
Man, that seems weird.
Because I was really early 20s.
jeff ross
I was like 21 or 22. At the most, I was 24. Dave was doing comedy as a high school student.
joe rogan
Yeah, I guess he was 18 and I was 24. That makes sense, now that I think about it.
But I got a chance to see him at Catch Rising Star.
I was like, wow, what a precocious young man.
He was so advanced for his age.
And he was a lot like Tony Woods.
Remember Tony Woods?
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Of course.
joe rogan
He was also from D.C., a hilarious guy.
I think Tony and him probably worked together.
jeff ross
They worked together.
I think Dave will fully admit that he was influenced by Tony.
Tony, they were good buddies.
I think they still are.
joe rogan
Yeah.
You always had this love for the older comics.
I remember that.
You were one of the first guys going to the Friars Club.
And I was like, look at Jeff.
He's in his fucking 20s.
He's hanging out at the Friars Club.
jeff ross
I had love for all comics.
And that's where the older comics were.
And they were smart.
I learned a lot.
Just about how life works.
Not just show business.
That's obvious.
You get to talk to an older comic about show business.
But I would talk to Buddy Hackett for hours about guns and pussy and politics and travel and food and booze.
And he knew everything.
joe rogan
Isn't it weird that there's a club, Friar's Club, like a dedicated comedian's club?
jeff ross
Comedy, show business, I see politicians there, musicians there, agents, lawyers.
joe rogan
Is that still going on, the Friar's Club?
jeff ross
Oh yeah, thriving, the Friar's Club on 55th Street between Park and Madison in New York City.
joe rogan
So it's not just comics?
jeff ross
No.
joe rogan
It wasn't always just comics?
jeff ross
No.
It's well known for the roasts, so comics are identified with it, but it's a fraternity for show business, basically.
A show business themed club.
joe rogan
And it's in New York and in LA? No, it's only in New York.
jeff ross
It was in LA for a long, long time, but not anymore.
joe rogan
When did it...
jeff ross
When Milton Berle died, it kind of died with him.
joe rogan
What year was that?
jeff ross
Ten years ago, I think.
joe rogan
Wow.
brian redban
Did you ever meet Bob Hope?
jeff ross
I never met Bob Hope.
I met him once.
What was that like?
brian redban
I was just a kid, but he was very nice.
He was golfing.
I was at the Memorial Tournament.
And there was this huge crowd of people and he was just walking by and he just looked over at me for some reason, just walked up to me and goes, hey kid!
And he signed my little paper thing and then just walked away.
Didn't take anyone else's photos or sign anyone else's shit.
I didn't even do anything different.
He just came right up.
It was weird.
joe rogan
Well, back in those days, there was not that many photos, because you didn't have a camera on me when I met Bob Hope.
Everybody's got a camera on them now.
jeff ross
Well, back then, I met Henny Youngman when I was a little kid, and he gave me a card, and I still have it.
I mean, I kind of like that.
joe rogan
You carried it in your pocket?
Really?
You would just reach for your wallet, like you still have it?
jeff ross
Yeah, no.
joe rogan
Do you still have it?
jeff ross
No, I do, but not Ami.
It was a music note with his name, with his autograph.
So cool, yeah.
He played violin in his acts.
joe rogan
Take my wife.
jeff ross
Take my wife, please.
joe rogan
He was a funny guy.
jeff ross
His picture is still hanging up at the Friars Club by Leroy Neiman, a beautiful painting.
It's like a living, breathing museum of show business.
joe rogan
But there's no place like that in LA anymore.
jeff ross
No.
joe rogan
Too bad, huh?
jeff ross
Yeah.
joe rogan
Were there that many old comics that are still kicking around in L.A.? Well, you know, there's always an old comic, you know.
jeff ross
It might not be from the Dean Martin Friars, you know, Celebrity Roast era, but there's always a new old comic.
joe rogan
Have you ever seen some of the memorabilia they have laying around the store from back when it used to be Ciro's and Dean Martin and Jerry Lewis used to perform there?
jeff ross
I haven't.
joe rogan
Oh, you gotta go into the office and see some of the cool posters and that old Ciro's sign.
It was Bugsy Siegel's joint.
jeff ross
Pretty wild.
joe rogan
Fuck.
Well, that's why everybody thinks it's haunted.
They think so many people were killed there.
There's a tunnel in the back of the comedy store.
Did they close it off?
Is it closed off?
brian redban
Yeah, it's closed off by concrete, I think, right?
joe rogan
Something.
I don't know.
But there was a tunnel that went from the Comedy Store up the hill to a house that, like, people could escape through or they could fucking move shit to.
You know, the Comedy Store is just filled with catacombs and it's just fucking so clustered and confusing if you don't know your way around that place.
If you're some cop and you're looking for Meyer Lansky and he fucking just skirts out the back and...
jeff ross
I've seen bullet holes and stuff.
joe rogan
That's what it looked like.
Wow.
Go big screen on that.
Fuck, man.
Look at that.
That's the main room, man.
Holy shit.
How weird is that?
Because you kind of recognize it a little bit.
brian redban
Looks like Jessica Rabbit should come out and start singing.
joe rogan
Which probably we did back then.
Or some facsimile.
Whoa, look at that.
That's what the stage looked like?
Maybe.
That might not be the same place.
That seems off.
But the other one was Ciro's, right?
jeff ross
That's it.
brian redban
Look at that.
unidentified
Wow.
jeff ross
That's a stripper.
joe rogan
Who is the girl?
A stripper.
Stripper Lil St. What is her name?
brian redban
Cyr.
joe rogan
Lily St. Cyr?
C-Y-R? How do you say that?
Performing at Ciro's Nightclub.
A stripper at Ciro's.
Wow.
How weird.
Great.
jeff ross
Look at these old ladies watching this.
joe rogan
Look what it looked like.
Scroll down.
Look at the photo down.
Look at that.
That's the fucking front of the store, man.
That's nuts.
That is nuts.
jeff ross
Look at that.
joe rogan
God, it looks so similar to what it looks like now.
jeff ross
Frazier Smith still drives that car.
unidentified
That's crazy.
joe rogan
That's a cool old car, man.
Those cars are worth a fuckload of money now.
brian redban
That house isn't there anymore, right?
That's where the hotel is, to the right of it.
joe rogan
Yeah, let me chop that bitch down.
jeff ross
But that's definitely the store.
Like, the patio's there.
It's all intact.
joe rogan
Look at the sign.
Sammy Davis Jr. Wow.
Who's that guy?
Will Masten?
jeff ross
That was his dad.
joe rogan
Was it?
jeff ross
Yeah.
Really?
His uncle.
That was his uncle that he tap dance with.
joe rogan
Oh, so he worked with?
Wow.
Look at that.
Everybody pulling into the front.
Fuck, that's crazy to see.
It's crazy to see a place.
That's the fucking back parking lot, man.
That's the side area.
Jesus Christ.
That is so weird.
It's so weird to see that place like that.
brian redban
Wait, so that's where the belly room is right here?
unidentified
I think, isn't it?
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, doesn't that look like the corner?
brian redban
It does, kind of.
joe rogan
It looks totally like the corner.
And so I guess there's a sign in the front.
Or is that the front of the building?
jeff ross
No, no, no.
That has to be the marquee.
joe rogan
That's the front of the building.
Yeah, that's the front.
It just looked way different.
It was just set up way different.
It's amazing.
There's so much history in that place.
That place, it feels like comedy musical chairs, too.
Because it feels like the music's gonna stop and everyone's gonna be really sad.
Because when Mitzi dies, who knows what that place is gonna become.
Who's that guy?
What the fuck was that?
What the hell is that?
What is that guy doing with his dick?
Is he throwing a girl up in the air?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
He's got his hands over his dick doing voodoo.
He's barefoot.
That guy's barefoot.
And he's throwing that woman in the air.
Wow.
That's crazy.
I wonder if anybody's ever done a documentary on C-R-O's.
New York doesn't really have a club like that, huh?
They don't have an old club.
Like, what's the oldest club in New York?
jeff ross
Comedy Cellar.
joe rogan
But that's like the 80s, right?
jeff ross
No.
joe rogan
70s?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
70s?
That's pretty old.
So Cellar is the oldest place, you think?
jeff ross
I think so.
Comic Strip's been here a long time, but nothing is like this.
joe rogan
Catch was great.
That was a great little room.
That was a great little spot.
Man, this is freaking me out.
These photos are zeros.
Now, you go back and forth.
jeff ross
You go back and forth from New York to LA. Yeah, I'm in New York and LA. I'm bi-coastal.
joe rogan
So you just have fun.
Just do whatever the fuck you want.
jeff ross
Well, I mean...
joe rogan
You're kind of living a dream, Jeff Ross.
jeff ross
Things are good.
joe rogan
But you're kind of living a dream, you know, the way you do it.
I see you taking pictures, like, there was a picture of you the other day with Ray Romano in the cellar, and then boom, all of a sudden you're at the store.
You know, like, you just hop back and forth, and Ari's doing that, too.
Ari's your fear's doing that, too.
jeff ross
I like it, man.
I like, you know, you make the world smaller and I'm happy in both places.
I like to move around.
I like life on both.
I don't know.
joe rogan
Where do you like performing better?
jeff ross
I don't know.
I guess generally I like New York as a city, but I have all my friends out here.
I don't know.
joe rogan
Do you keep an apartment out here?
jeff ross
I have a house here.
joe rogan
So you have a house here and a place back there, too?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Look at you, you fucking animal.
jeff ross
I love it.
unidentified
Motherfucka!
joe rogan
I like it.
Whatever happened to The Burn?
What happened, Comedy Central?
jeff ross
Yeah, they didn't make it after two seasons.
joe rogan
That was a fun show.
jeff ross
Yeah, so fun.
Fucking love that.
joe rogan
But you'd be tied down.
Then you'd have to stay here.
jeff ross
That's all right.
I would have done it for that.
I had all my buddies there working.
It was awesome.
joe rogan
You got anything going on right now?
jeff ross
Working on the next special.
I'm going to roast cops.
joe rogan
Right, you talked about that earlier.
jeff ross
I'm going to host the Oddball Tour with Amy and Aziz and I'm on Kingdom.
A couple new ideas coming up.
Things are good, man.
joe rogan
It's good to see you, buddy.
jeff ross
This is so much fun, dude.
joe rogan
You seem like it.
You seem overwhelmed.
jeff ross
What do you mean?
unidentified
Nothing.
brian redban
He's just very Did you ever meet Steve Martin?
jeff ross
No.
Never met Steve Martin.
joe rogan
Is there a comic that you want to meet that you haven't met?
jeff ross
Oh boy.
I never met Woody Allen.
That would be cool.
joe rogan
What do you think that conversation would be like?
jeff ross
I'd keep it about comedy.
joe rogan
Yeah, you'd have to.
If you ventured into girls, it would get a little weird.
jeff ross
Not really.
Start getting sweaty.
That'd probably be a fun conversation.
joe rogan
You think so?
Yeah, I think so.
jeff ross
I think he would.
He would open up to a comic before he would open up to anybody else.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jeff ross
Don't you feel like you'd just tell Woody Allen everything?
unidentified
Me?
joe rogan
Yeah, definitely.
Pull him aside.
jeff ross
I feel like he'd be very open-minded.
joe rogan
Maybe.
Who knows?
You know, it's all dependent on who you're listening to.
If you listen to Mia Farrow, no.
Not so much.
You know?
But he's obviously a creative genius.
Obviously.
But, you know.
jeff ross
I got to know Mel Brooks.
That's my other one.
joe rogan
That's a big one.
jeff ross
Spent a lot of dinners at Sid Caesar's house listening to Mel.
joe rogan
Really?
jeff ross
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Wow.
That's huge.
That's gigantic.
jeff ross
I asked my Uncle Murray, he was coming out to visit a couple years ago, I said, if he could meet anybody, he's never been to LA, been all over the world, he's a Purple Heart, Silver Star recipient, World War II Army medic, helped liberate a concentration camp, dined all over the world, best restaurants in the world, was a caterer, had a great life, outlived two wives, loved them both, he's never been to LA. I said, what do you want to do?
If he could meet, do anything, what would he do?
He's like, I'd like to meet Mel Brooks.
I was like, well, what's your second choice?
Because that's not happening.
And, you know, he's coming, he's coming, and it's getting closer, so fuck it, I write a letter to Mel Brooks.
joe rogan
A letter?
jeff ross
Yeah.
unidentified
Wow.
jeff ross
And I knew where his office was, and I knew Mel a little bit, because I'd sat in Sid Caesar's house for different holidays and birthdays, and he'd always pop in with Carl Reiner.
Even when Sid was frail and old, Mel and Carl would make a big entrance.
Mel would lean right into Sid's wheelchair.
Mel!
Sid!
It's Mel Brooks and Carl Ryder!
And you see Sid light up.
It was great.
And, you know, it was like Fourth of July weekend a couple years ago.
And finally I'm like, fuck.
My uncle's only here for another couple more days.
We're having a great time.
We went to Fred Willard and Mary Willard's fireworks party.
And I took him to the polo lounge with Bob Saget.
And we've been having so much fun.
And he saw Renee Taylor at Genghis Khan Chinese restaurant.
He got a picture.
And, you know, my uncle's having the best time.
But, man, he did say, you know, months ago, that would be the one thing where the creme de la creme would be, you know, just a handshake and a photo with Mel Brooks.
I'm a little embarrassed, so I go into the bathroom and I call Mel's office because I don't want my uncle to hear me, even though he's 90, you know?
And I'm like, just make sure you got the letter, you know, following up.
I'm just like being as humble and, yeah, yeah, Mel's been out of town.
I'll see if I can get an answer to it.
Boom.
I have to go to an emergency dental appointment.
I think a filling fell out, so I take my uncle.
To the dentist with me.
I'm done.
It's 10.30.
Now I'm like, how do I kill our last day with my uncle?
I love my Uncle Murray.
He's just the family ball buster.
Mean Murray, we called him.
And he just basically made fun of me as a kid and taught me how to take a joke.
Like a real Jersey guy.
You know, lifelong caterer.
Just super funny.
And we're up.
I'm showing him, you know, Mulholland and this and that.
And we're right at the top of Laurel Canyon and Mulholland and my cell phone rings.
Hold for Mel Brooks.
I'm like, oh, this is where he's calling?
Like, there's gonna be no service up here.
This is terrible.
Like, this is...
Mel gets on.
He's like...
He's like...
Basically, so what's going on?
What's happening?
And I'm like, I'm trying to talk and drive down this hill all at once.
And I'm like, well, you know, I think it would be so nice of you to meet my uncle.
He just loves you.
Whatever I can say.
I think you guys, you're both World War II veterans.
We might have a lot in common.
And Mel goes, the only thing I have in common with you, with your uncle, is that I'm a nice guy.
So come on over in an hour and a half over to my office or the barbershop.
I don't know yet.
I'll call you back.
Click.
I go down the hill, and we're both in shorts, so we're panicking.
So we're racing down Laurel Canyon, and we run home to put long pants on and just comb our hair or whatever.
I'm just coming from the dentist, you know?
And my uncle's like, he doesn't ever...
He doesn't ever wait on line.
Like, you know, he has certain rules.
He's like a very proud, stubborn guy, you know, seen it all, and he's like nervously rehearsing opening lines to say to Mel Brooks...
joe rogan
What did he say to him?
jeff ross
He's like, how's this?
He goes, my uncle goes, how's this?
He goes, it's good to meet the king.
Because, you know, it's good to be the king is Mel's famous line.
joe rogan
Right.
jeff ross
And I'm like, yeah, that's good.
That's good.
I've never seen my uncle think of anything as second thought, you know.
And we get there and we have this parking spot on the lot right next to Mel's parking space.
And it's beautiful.
It's where they shot Gone with the Wind.
It's like this beautiful movie lot.
My uncle's, you know...
He has very bad knees, very, very weak knees from walking across Europe in World War II. He can barely stand for...
He was a very strong guy, worked his whole life as a cook in his catering hall, but now he's old and he can't...
Mel's office, for some reason, who, by the way, is only a year younger or two years younger, is on the second floor of this building.
So now my uncle, who can really...
Flies up this flight of stairs.
joe rogan
Wow.
jeff ross
Into Mel's office.
The assistant is there.
You're gonna get a drink?
Sure.
You know, my uncle's just like in the fucking zone.
And Mel's door opens and they go in there and they promise me, you know, five or ten minutes with Mel.
These two guys are in there for 75 minutes.
They know the same guys.
They were both in Patton's army.
They knew guys from New Jersey.
They knew guys from New York.
They're laughing.
You know, uh...
My uncle says, I've been a fan ever since the 2,000-year-old man.
And Mel says, it's the 1,000-year-old man.
Don't make me older than I am.
And they're just laughing, and I'm just staying out of the way.
I'm giving them both a couple setup lines because I kind of know both of their, you know, where they're going.
I'm trying to be helpful, but they've tuned me out for over an hour.
And they hit it off, and Mel signed a bunch of...
Gave my uncle his DVD set and signed it to my uncle.
And Mel walks us out himself.
And we took pictures.
A great picture.
I'll Instagram it this week or something.
And the door closes and we're walking down the hall.
And my uncle, who's never at a loss for words, he's bouncing.
And he's like, wow!
Wow!
Wow!
Like a little kid coming off a roller coaster.
joe rogan
That's great.
jeff ross
Uncle Murray.
joe rogan
That's a great story.
jeff ross
Uncle Murray.
He passed away.
Rest in peace.
joe rogan
We're not going to top that, so let's wrap it up right here.
That's awesome.
I love it.
jeff ross
Yeah, it's cool.
joe rogan
That's a great fucking story.
jeff ross
Thank you, Mel Brooks.
And then I see Mel.
You know, I thank him.
I thank him.
You know, he always asks me about Uncle Murray, and then Uncle Murray finally passed away.
And I said to Mel, I said, listen, Mel, if any of your uncles ever want to meet me, I'm happy to oblige.
joe rogan
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Thanks, brother.
That was awesome.
jeff ross
It's a lot of fun, buddy.
Thanks for having me on your show.
joe rogan
He's always around.
You can see him at the store.
You see him in New York.
jeff ross
If he's in New York.
Come to Roast Battle on Tuesdays.
joe rogan
Roast Battle on Tuesdays.
jeff ross
Come see me on Yaball Tour, University of Rhode Island.
joe rogan
Come see Brian Redband tonight at the Sold Out Ice House show, bitch.
jeff ross
Yeah, nice.
joe rogan
Yeah, we're going to have some fun tonight at the Ice House.
jeff ross
Tony's on that one.
joe rogan
Tony Hinchcliffe, Joey Diaz, and Brian Callen.
Good fucking googly moogly!
This weekend, I'm at the store.
Friday night, I'm doing the late show in the belly room with me and the Golden Pony.
Tony Hinchcliffe, that should be fun.
That's Friday night, 10.30 at the store.
And I'm at the store all weekend, too.
Alright, you fucks.
Love the shit out of you people.
See you soon.
unidentified
Bye-bye.
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