April 12, 2015 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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| We are about to watch, we're watching UFC Fight Pass. | ||
| We're watching it on my computer, so I can't pull up who is fighting, but this is a lady fighter. | ||
| A lady. | ||
| There's so many fighters in the UFC now, even the employees of the UFC don't know who the fuck is who. | ||
| It's tough. | ||
| It's getting crazy. | ||
| There's 500 signed fighters. | ||
| That far surpasses the Dunbar's number of 150. That's tough. | ||
| Especially when it's international like this. | ||
| In Poland, it's tough, man. | ||
| Remember back in the day when someone would try to get away with saying that they're a UFC fighter, and you'd say, fuck you! | ||
| Now, shit, you'd have to do some research. | ||
| Yeah, you can't just say, fuck you. | ||
| You gotta go, oh, okay. | ||
| You might be like, yeah, he might be. | ||
| He might be. | ||
| And then you find out, oh, this dude, yeah, he fought. | ||
| This dude's 6-0. | ||
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This dude's 6-0. | |
| Even really good fighters. | ||
| How many people didn't know about Brendan Thatch until he fought Benson? | ||
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Like, Thatch is fucking legit! | |
| His name sounded familiar. | ||
| I was like, Thatch, okay. | ||
| Dude, that guy's legit. | ||
| He's big in Denver. | ||
| He's big. | ||
| He's fucking good. | ||
| Oh, that's your boy. | ||
| Calderwood and Morose. | ||
| Is that her name? | ||
| Morose? | ||
| I don't know how to say it. | ||
| There's a lot of fighters from other countries now, too, man. | ||
| It's one of the cool things that we're seeing. | ||
| Jamie, give us a little volume so we can hear this, too. | ||
| So we can hear the fights. | ||
| No one's told us to not do that, so let's just keep doing that. | ||
| And I gotta take this fucking goofy lava lamp down. | ||
| I can't see shit. | ||
| It's a big-ass lava lamp. | ||
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Boom, boom, boom. | |
| We're back. | ||
| Is Hardy doing the commentating on this? | ||
| It doesn't sound like Hardy. | ||
| Well, that's a play-by-play guy. | ||
| But I didn't hear him earlier. | ||
| Did you hear him? | ||
| I haven't heard him. | ||
| Jamie, we lost it. | ||
| What happened? | ||
| What the fuck happened? | ||
| Come on, Fight Path. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| We're fucked. | ||
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Hmm. | |
| Let me try this again. | ||
| Well... | ||
| Take this off, because otherwise... | ||
| Take this off my desktop. | ||
| What are people seeing right now? | ||
| Just us? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Damn, look at that picture. | ||
| Sucked if you're Anderson Silva. | ||
| I know. | ||
| That was one of the greatest knockouts of all time. | ||
| He could say no, no, that's when he missed. | ||
| Yeah, not because it was perfectly set up. | ||
| It was just crazy. | ||
| Like, as far as the result of a knockout, like... | ||
| The jolt it sends through your body? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| When Weidman connected on Anderson, it was like one of the greatest moments. | ||
| Like, not great, like, I'm happy Anderson got knocked out, or none of that. | ||
| Just like, the burst of, what the fuck? | ||
| It's more like when Buster Douglas knocked out Tyson. | ||
| But crazier, because he came out of nowhere. | ||
| Like, Buster Douglas was whooping that ass. | ||
| Buster Douglas was hitting him with that long jab hook. | ||
| He was hitting him with that Larry Holmes-style jab and the hook behind it. | ||
| That was Buster Douglas' finest moment. | ||
| I just saw that fight again within the last six months, and goddamn, even though Buster Douglas looked... | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| He looked flawless. | ||
| He was on fire. | ||
| And Tyson didn't train for it or whatever. | ||
| But if you look at Tyson, even though he didn't train, he looked good. | ||
| He looked good in that fight. | ||
| His head movement was there. | ||
| He was throwing big shots. | ||
| He was really trying to knock out Buster Douglas with everything he had. | ||
| He was throwing great shit. | ||
| And he did drop him in the eighth round. | ||
| Yes, he did. | ||
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He finally dropped them. | |
| Did you hear Tyson speaking before that? | ||
| He was saying how he was just doing work on those... | ||
| Where was it? | ||
| Tokyo? | ||
| Is that right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He was just doing work on some Asian ladies. | ||
| He talked about that? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Doing work. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Like, what's work? | ||
| 10? | ||
| More than 10? | ||
| You're Mike Tyson. | ||
| He probably never took time off. | ||
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All right, here we go. | |
| Perfect timing. | ||
| We're back. | ||
| Fight Pass. | ||
| How dare you kick me off like that? | ||
| It looks like an Atari game. | ||
| I work for you fucking guys. | ||
| How dare you? | ||
| How dare you? | ||
| I wonder how many half Mike Tyson kids there are in Japan. | ||
| Probably 70. Okay, we got Joanne Calderwood and Myrna Moroz. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| We're gonna hear it. | ||
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Damn, that bitch looks mean. | |
| And I mean that with all due respect. | ||
| Five foot tall? | ||
| Oh no, that's five and O. Five and O, my man. | ||
| I'm like, shit! | ||
| And I say bitch with all due respect. | ||
| Damn, Scotland does not play games. | ||
| I bet this chick is tough as fuck. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| She is good. | ||
| Joanne's about to whoop that ass. | ||
| She does look like she's paralyzed right there. | ||
| She looks terrified. | ||
| No, no, she looks terrified. | ||
| That's the Carla Esparza effect, right? | ||
| It's not real? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Because Carla just does this. | ||
| And then she goes out there and whoops ass. | ||
| Not that last fight, but yeah. | ||
| Not that last fight. | ||
| That last fight, the striking was so outmatched. | ||
| I think that chick is going to make, what was her name, Joanna? | ||
| There she is. | ||
| She's the Ronda Rousey at 115. With better striking. | ||
| She's going to make everybody look like Carla. | ||
| I bet they all look like Carla. | ||
| I agree 100%. | ||
| They're going to look lost. | ||
| They're not going to be able to take her down. | ||
| She gives the shit out of me. | ||
| They're not going to be able to take her down. | ||
| If Carla can't take her down, most fighters in that division are not going to be able to take her down. | ||
| Well, did you see her fight with Amanda Nunes? | ||
| It was a very close fight, and a lot of people actually thought that Nunes won the fight. | ||
| I think it was Nunes, right? | ||
| Was it Nunes? | ||
| I'm wrong, man. | ||
| She's a beast, though, man. | ||
| Oh, dude, she is wicked, man. | ||
| You see her weighing pick? | ||
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She's wicked. | |
| She's looking like that raptor. | ||
| She is intense, man. | ||
| I would Google her, but I don't know how to say her name on Google. | ||
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I don't either. | |
| I couldn't even spell it if you gave me a million dollars right now. | ||
| I'm gonna try. | ||
| You want her? | ||
| Man, Joanne got good striking. | ||
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She throws it some power. | |
| I just tried J-Y-Z. You want a J-Y-Z? And let's see if they figure it out. | ||
| Dude, isn't it weird? | ||
| I can't do this while I'm not on my computer. | ||
| Girls fight like dudes? | ||
| I'm still not used to it. | ||
| How long did we think that girls couldn't throw punches? | ||
| We believe that as a society. | ||
| Girls can't throw punches. | ||
| But then you look at Kathy Long. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| Have you seen her highlight reel? | ||
| No. | ||
| She's the best American female kickboxer in the 80s and 90s. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| Old school. | ||
| Went old school with it. | ||
| YouTube search Kathy Long highlight reel. | ||
| Have you seen Holly Holm? | ||
| You've seen Holly Holm's highlights though? | ||
| You know what? | ||
| All that can stand down for a moment. | ||
| Have you guys seen Anne motherfucking Wolf? | ||
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No. | |
| What's that? | ||
| Okay, we should stop watching this fight immediately and watch how Ann Wolfe used to knock chicks out. | ||
| Look at that arm bar. | ||
| Nice, beautiful arm bar. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Beautiful arm bar. | ||
| What? | ||
| Damn, that was beautiful. | ||
| Little Ukrainian. | ||
| Ukrainian in the house. | ||
| She's a huge underdog, man. | ||
| That was beautiful. | ||
| Huge underdog. | ||
| I gotta see how that was all set up. | ||
| We were talking about Mike Tyson. | ||
| They'll show the replay for sure. | ||
| We were talking about just girls whooping ass. | ||
| Kathy Long, we were talking about. | ||
| No, we were just talking about Ann Wolfe. | ||
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Let's see this. | |
| She pulled guard. | ||
| Damn, pulled guard. | ||
| Wow, that's beautiful. | ||
| I'm not mad at Joian's haircut. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Nice control. | ||
| She pulled guard right into an armbar. | ||
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Look at that. | |
| She just can't get out of that. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Control with her legs. | ||
| Yeah, great control. | ||
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Leg curls. | |
| Look at those leg curls. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| That is legit. | ||
| You know, Eddie, there's still people that say that you shouldn't cross your feet, and I don't agree with that. | ||
| Crossing your feet with the arm bar thing, that's like, people are pretending, some people pretend it's just like crossing the feet when you have someone's back. | ||
| Well, it all depends. | ||
| If the guy's on their back and you're in spiderweb, if they're on their back, yeah, you cross your feet all the time, but if they're on top of you, it all depends on What's going on? | ||
| I mean, what's going on with the arm exactly? | ||
| And what's going on with the locking of the shoulder? | ||
| What angle? | ||
| Where is she putting all her weight? | ||
| Watch this. | ||
| This is Ann Wolfe. | ||
| She's the American? | ||
| She's the black chick. | ||
| Check this. | ||
| Just wait for some trauma. | ||
| Wait for some shit that's going to change your feeling about what would happen if a chick punched you. | ||
| You just gotta see this fucking KO. I think you'd be surprised. | ||
| Hold up, look at this. | ||
| Boom! | ||
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Oh, shit! | |
| Dude, are you fucking shitting me? | ||
| Are you fucking shitting me? | ||
| Did she hit hard? | ||
| She's like a little Mike Tyson. | ||
| Dude, she lifted her in the air. | ||
| That was ridiculous. | ||
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Wow. | |
| That girl went flying. | ||
| God, Doug. | ||
| That girl, like, literally went flying. | ||
| Ann Wolfkin. | ||
| Bang! | ||
| And she trains James Kirkland. | ||
| Who's a high-level guy. | ||
| I've seen her corner, yeah. | ||
| She's intense corner. | ||
| Let's see what she says, hold on. | ||
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I bet she does. | |
| Great speech. | ||
| Powerful Dan Hardy. | ||
| Oh, I like Dan Hardy, man. | ||
| Love that dude. | ||
| Great guy. | ||
| He's the best. | ||
| He's good on the mic, too. | ||
| He's very good, very comfortable. | ||
| He's very smart. | ||
| Damn, her walkout gear just says, Fight Night. | ||
| Just fuck it, Fight Night. | ||
| Is that Reebok? | ||
| I don't know what that is. | ||
| There has to be a better campaign. | ||
| It says Reebok. | ||
| Fight Night? | ||
| There has to be something better. | ||
| Is that what they're calling it? | ||
| I hope not. | ||
| That better not be what they want people to buy. | ||
| I'm not wearing that. | ||
| I'm gonna fucking throw on a big brown on the back. | ||
| Maybe it's, oh, you know what it probably is? | ||
| It's probably what they're wearing on fight night. | ||
| Like, that's why, does that make sense? | ||
| I should probably ask somebody since I work for them. | ||
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Hold on. | |
| Wow, that's beautiful. | ||
| Look at the control she has with her hands. | ||
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Boom. | |
| No capitalization, a small gap before the closure. | ||
| She didn't capitalize on that. | ||
| For sure don't stand up and extend it. | ||
| For sure don't stand up and extend it. | ||
| She hung out in there. | ||
| She should have squashed her. | ||
| She hung out in there when there was this one brief moment where she could have pulled her arm out. | ||
| Damn, look at her. | ||
| She's talking shit. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| How do you say Joanna's last name? | ||
| Jura Dixon? | ||
| They're laughing at each other. | ||
| They can't talk shit. | ||
| Look, they're laughing. | ||
| Well, they know that that's where the money's at now. | ||
| Isn't that crazy? | ||
| Fuck you, bitch. | ||
| Damn powerful collared white shirt. | ||
| Beautiful. | ||
| I think when you become champ, they should have a stylist for you right away. | ||
| You can't dress like an asshole anymore. | ||
| Well, what about Roy Nelson? | ||
| If Roy Nelson became champ and decided to wear... | ||
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Give him a stylist! | |
| Oh, that mullet? | ||
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See ya! | |
| No way! | ||
| See ya! | ||
| No way! | ||
| You can't do that! | ||
| GQ Roy Nelson would be sick! | ||
| Oh, you're so wrong. | ||
| I think for women's MMA, they should be allowed to pull hair. | ||
| And that'd be part of the game. | ||
| Oh my god, that's so dark, Eddie. | ||
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That's so dark! | |
| How cool would that be? | ||
| Come on, how cool would that be? | ||
| That's too much, bro. | ||
| That's too much, man. | ||
| Not cool at all. | ||
| Not cool. | ||
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Why? | |
| Can you imagine the technique? | ||
| Horrible. | ||
| Dude, there would be all these different chokes you could do with the hair. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| Dude, I hear you, man, but this bugs me. | ||
| Here's Jinjecek taking out Esparza. | ||
| Dude, she's so lethal on the feet. | ||
| That's some real, legit, six-time world Muay Thai champion right now. | ||
| Great technique. | ||
| Look at that beautiful elbow. | ||
| This is a goddamn firing gallery. | ||
| It's like she was just having sparring practice with pads that don't hit back. | ||
| This is what it's like. | ||
| She was hitting the mitts with some light defense work. | ||
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Right. | |
| Goddamn she's good. | ||
| Dude, the technique that you see there, that is as clean as it gets when it comes to striking in MMA. That's a scary girlfriend to have right there. | ||
| She could fuck you up. | ||
| If you're not on your shit, if you slip and you're kind of drunk, she'll fuck you up. | ||
| I'll tell you what, though. | ||
| No girlfriend of mine is walking out of the house with that business polo on. | ||
| Brendan, if you guys were in a real fight, you'd win if she was your girlfriend. | ||
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Brendan. | |
| I would snap her down to her. | ||
| No, no, you would. | ||
| You would fuck her up. | ||
| But if you're kind of drunk, you're in your underwear, one, the lights dim, she'll rattle off a combination, she'll fuck you up. | ||
| That's the thing, though. | ||
| I think a girl like that needs a boyfriend like him. | ||
| She needs a giant gorilla that she can't just kick in the head. | ||
| A savage. | ||
| Multi-billionaire dude who's like a little old man that she beats up and he loves it. | ||
| She only rides him. | ||
| You fucking little man. | ||
| I keep your life alive. | ||
| He pays to have her beat her up. | ||
| Beat him up. | ||
| Dude, a woman like that, that takes a lot of man. | ||
| You need an alpha male. | ||
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You need a Cro Cop. | |
| Or you need a complete opposite. | ||
| Cro Cop, right? | ||
| Yeah, Cro Cop would work. | ||
| She's not hot enough for Cro Cop, let's be honest. | ||
| Well, how dare you? | ||
| How dare you? | ||
| I think she's beautiful. | ||
| Oh, I'm sorry. | ||
| I think she's beautiful. | ||
| She's beautiful. | ||
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For Cro Cop, though, this motherfucker runs Croatia. | |
| Can you imagine the damage he's doing? | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| Listen, he's married. | ||
| He's got a family. | ||
| Before that, though. | ||
| When he was single. | ||
| I'm trying to Google this woman's name. | ||
| I've never had a harder time Googling a woman's name. | ||
| I basically know how to say it, but to spell it, I really need to learn how to spell it. | ||
| It's preposterous that they require that of you, though, I think. | ||
| Yeah, I know, man. | ||
| I'm trying to figure out. | ||
| Click on it and see. | ||
| What was her last fight? | ||
| Go to her Wikipedia. | ||
| Besides Esparza? | ||
| Before Carla Esparza. | ||
| I want to say it was Nunez, but I'm doing this totally off of memory. | ||
| And I might... | ||
| Oh, that's who it was. | ||
| Split decision. | ||
| That's who it was. | ||
| It was Claudia Gedalia. | ||
| Okay, my apologies to Amanda Nunes. | ||
| Boy, those women names are tough. | ||
| Because Amanda Nunes, I think, is a 135. Yeah, she is. | ||
| She is. | ||
| Can we see the Kathy Long highlight reel on that? | ||
| Is that possible? | ||
| That Claudia Gedalia fight, that was a really fucking close fight. | ||
| A really close fight. | ||
| Sometimes it's matchups, man. | ||
| Styles. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| She's going to be champ for a while. | ||
| Well, Klaja is very good, dude. | ||
| She's very good. | ||
| I mean, that was a really good fight between those two. | ||
| I think there's a lot of action in this division. | ||
| I really think that Johanna is above and beyond the rest of them when it comes to striking. | ||
| But there's some really good grapplers in that division. | ||
| And if they get a hold of her, who the fuck knows what happens? | ||
| But if Carla can't take her down, that means every fighter is going to have a hard time. | ||
| No one's going to take her down easily. | ||
| But a striker with really good wrestling might be able to pull it off. | ||
| The problem with Carla was that the gap in the striking was so goddamn enormous. | ||
| And the length, the reach was trouble. | ||
| It's just an enormous gap in the striking. | ||
| But she still did get inside, and she got deep, and that's beyond the striking, and she couldn't finish it. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| She could have gotten tagged before that, though. | ||
| She definitely did. | ||
| She could have been diminished by that. | ||
| There's a lot of possibilities there. | ||
| If you saw the two of them, I would have to go back and watch it again. | ||
| But if you watch, anytime you see someone get tagged, there's a possibility that they're functioning in a diminished capacity, right? | ||
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Hell yeah. | |
| Hell yeah. | ||
| We might try a brown fight. | ||
| I went from a legit jiu-jitsu guy to fucking two-stripe white belt. | ||
| I think he went back, mount, and I had no idea what was going on. | ||
| I thought I was fine, which is weird. | ||
| When you think about how good Joanna's hands are, she could have easily clipped Carla coming in, right? | ||
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For sure. | |
| And then your memory, your mortar skills are slow. | ||
| You think you're moving at a good pace. | ||
| You're really not. | ||
| It's just a haze. | ||
| There's a haze. | ||
| The distance, you seem like you're alright. | ||
| You're really not. | ||
| Everything's slow. | ||
| It's trouble, man. | ||
| Goddamn, dude. | ||
| You just have some killer focus, not dazed. | ||
| Wanna be a fighter, huh? | ||
| Goddamn, dude. | ||
| Did you see the Jamie Varner shit? | ||
| The interviews Jamie Varner's been doing lately? | ||
| No. | ||
| What's he talking about? | ||
| Very interesting. | ||
| He's talking about how he thinks fighters should spar way less than they do. | ||
| He's like, what you need to be doing is working on drills, hitting pads, working out on strength and conditioning, you know, do your wrestling, your jiu-jitsu. | ||
| But he's like, hardcore sparring should be done once a week at most, and only when you're preparing for a fight. | ||
| I agree 100%. | ||
| He said maybe you could even stretch it out to even more than once a week. | ||
| Like once every two weeks. | ||
| He's like, what's really important is that you take care of your brain and you make sure you don't spar with bigger guys. | ||
| He was saying that he made mistakes by sparring with... | ||
| He's sparring with... | ||
| Who was it? | ||
| He's with Bader and those guys? | ||
| He's with Bader. | ||
| I know he sparred with Bader. | ||
| I think he sparred with Buzinski, who's a little bit larger than him, too. | ||
| Yeah, all those guys are big. | ||
| CB Dalloway, who's larger than him, too. | ||
| And Bader's big, dude. | ||
| He's a big boy. | ||
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Bader's a thick dude. | |
| Big, thick motherfucker who throws haymakers. | ||
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Power. | |
| He's a hard puncher. | ||
| I agree 100% with Jamie. | ||
| Jamie Varner's a 155er, and he's fighting a guy that literally fights in a division 50 pounds heavier than him. | ||
| And he's sparring with that guy. | ||
| I mean, that's pretty crazy. | ||
| Bader's a 205. You know, that's bananas. | ||
| You think we'll ever see Bader striking like Conor McGregor? | ||
| Well, you know what I mean? | ||
| What I mean by that is by... | ||
| Just utilizing every possible strike. | ||
| He would have to change a lot about the way he moves. | ||
| You know, I think Bader has gotten a lot better in his striking. | ||
| Like, no doubt. | ||
| Like, the Feijão fight is a perfect example of that. | ||
| Like, Feijão is a legit striker. | ||
| If you watch his fight with King Mo in Strikeforce, you see what kind of striking Feijão has when he's on point. | ||
| Even Bader Glover's, he showed good striking. | ||
| He clipped him with the right hand. | ||
| Yes, he did. | ||
| He did. | ||
| Glover's a monster. | ||
| Yeah, he heard him before he got caught when he was trying to close the deal. | ||
| That's totally true. | ||
| He's a really good... | ||
| He's getting much better, too. | ||
| He works hard. | ||
| You can totally tell. | ||
| You see that... | ||
| There's a video going around, like a highlight of Capoeira MMA. Have we seen this? | ||
| No. | ||
| No, they're doing spinning kicks and shit. | ||
| Yeah, dude. | ||
| It's... | ||
| I don't know if it's fake. | ||
| It looks real. | ||
| It looks real. | ||
| Well, capoeira is just like wheel kicks. | ||
| Yeah, super athletic. | ||
| It's capoeira guys against capoeira guys, and that's what they're throwing. | ||
| They're just throwing massive double spinning wheel kicks. | ||
| They're doing all that shit. | ||
| And jiu-jitsu. | ||
| They go on the ground and choke each other out. | ||
| What I was going to say about Ryan Bader and that, like when you're saying, do you think you'll ever have a full arsenal, is the way he moves. | ||
| There's something wrong with the way. | ||
| You think wrong. | ||
| See, I don't think wrong is the right word. | ||
| Not wrong. | ||
| I don't think it's in his wheelhouse. | ||
| I mean, for kicking. | ||
| Do you know what I'm saying? | ||
| Like, I'm not even wrong with the way he moves, because obviously the way he moves is effective, but it's almost like his legs, like he keeps them close together. | ||
| If you watch like a Machida, or you watch like a Brandon Thatch, like that real strong, traditional karate type background, which is the one that allows you to get away with everything. | ||
| Thatch is a karate type guy? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He throws a lot of wheel kicks. | ||
| He can throw everything. | ||
| Throw everything. | ||
| That's what I'm talking about. | ||
| He's like Anthony Pettis at 170. You would have to have a wider stance. | ||
| So it's not something wrong with it. | ||
| It's something wrong if you wanted to throw all those kicks and all that other crazy shit. | ||
| You look at Anderson, there's a wider stance going on. | ||
| If you look at Taekwondo guys, there's a wide stance going on. | ||
| I think that's the only way you get to throw those kicks. | ||
| Like with Muay Thai, you can stand way closer. | ||
| Because with Muay Thai, you're throwing round kicks mostly and occasionally teeps. | ||
| But when you want to go off that back leg with anything where you're spinning, you want to have a little bit more space. | ||
| And I think if he wanted to have like Conor McGregor style, he would probably have to stand like McGregor. | ||
| Super wide. | ||
| Super white. | ||
| Would you think it's a good idea for every guy getting into MMA to try to emulate a style like that? | ||
| It's not for everyone. | ||
| The karate style works though, man, if you get good at it. | ||
| When it's hard to hit a guy, like if you ever watch a good point fighter fight like Raymond Daniels. | ||
| You've seen Raymond Daniels fight in Glory? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Only the super high level guys have been able to get past that. | ||
| The guys like Nicky Holtzkin, he's the guy who gets past it. | ||
| Think about Wonderboy. | ||
| He's tough to hit, man, in the UFC. He's a phenomenal point scorer. | ||
| Joseph Vattellini. | ||
| He's a perfect example of a guy who gets past Raymond Daniels. | ||
| And he's the champ because he just kicked his legs out from under him. | ||
| He just used traditional, solid Muay Thai, hands up, kickboxing style, blocked, threw a lot of fucking leg kicks, took him out and then took him out with a head kick. | ||
| But everybody else, when Daniels fights a guy who can't deal with that kind of hopping in and out shit, it's lethal. | ||
| It's lethal. | ||
| So to have a guy like a Conor McGregor style, or a guy like Lyoto or Thatch, a guy who throws those wild kicks, if Bader wanted to do that, he would definitely have to widen his stance. | ||
| I don't think Bader's ever going to do that. | ||
| I also think the style you're describing is in those guys, Thatch, Connor, Machida, they're phenomenal athletes. | ||
| Phenomenal. | ||
| And that might not be in Bader's wheelhouse. | ||
| You don't think Bader is? | ||
| You don't think Bader's a phenomenal athlete? | ||
| Compared to Machida? | ||
| I don't think he's as skilled in karate or in stand-up as Machida is. | ||
| I mean, Machida's a sly, professional, high-level fighter. | ||
| Explosive, quick, endurance. | ||
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Machida caught him. | |
| Yeah, well, Machida's pretty special. | ||
| He's pretty special. | ||
| Fuck yeah, he's special. | ||
| All those guys are that we talked about. | ||
| Sometimes I think certain styles aren't in guys' wheels. | ||
| Does that make sense? | ||
| Like, Bob Sapp isn't gonna fucking adapt to the Taekwondo. | ||
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Ever. | |
| It's true. | ||
| Ever. | ||
| There's just certain guys are made for it. | ||
| Too much mass there, right? | ||
| Well, Bader's a massive dude, and big. | ||
| But he could do it, because Feijal can do those kind of kicks. | ||
| Feijal can throw wheel kicks. | ||
| He's a thick fucking dude, too. | ||
| Melvin Manhoof. | ||
| Who's thicker than that fucking guy? | ||
| He's explosive and athletic. | ||
| But you know what? | ||
| Melvin, you don't see throw wheel kicks either. | ||
| You see them mostly with straight Muay Thai. | ||
| All straight Muay Thai. | ||
| Leg kicks like a motherfucker. | ||
| Who the fuck is? | ||
| It's different, man. | ||
| Some guys just don't like throwing them. | ||
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That's true too. | |
| I agree, some guys don't. | ||
| Because they're no good at them because they don't practice them. | ||
| 100% I'm a victim of that. | ||
| I'm just saying certain guys, like a guy like Bader who comes from a wrestling background, the chances of him adapting, that's not good. | ||
| And you have to have the athletic ability to pick it up. | ||
| Well, I don't think Conor came from that background entirely. | ||
| You know, I think he's kind of picked that kicking style up more. | ||
| I think he started more as a boxer. | ||
| Boxer, yeah. | ||
| But also taekwondo, karate. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He spends a lot of time with a homie in Iceland. | ||
| Gunnar Nelson. | ||
| You know Machida? | ||
| Wicked. | ||
| You know Machida single-handedly? | ||
| Everything great. | ||
| Brought back karate. | ||
| I mean, Machida, you can't say shit about karate. | ||
| Look at Machida. | ||
| You can't say shit about karate. | ||
| You can't say shit. | ||
| You know what, man? | ||
| This is what I believe. | ||
| But eventually we're going to have a capoeira guy in there. | ||
| Machida's the exception. | ||
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Machida's the exception. | |
| There's going to be a guy in the UFC who comes out and is throwing all them crazy capoeira kicks. | ||
| How come that hasn't happened already? | ||
| It has, though. | ||
| Cesar Mutante is a capoeira guy. | ||
| That's his background. | ||
| He really did start off with that. | ||
| He's a beast. | ||
| Super good athlete. | ||
| There's a lot of guys who've trained in capoeira, who've done the UFC, I'm sure, but who actually go out there and stand like those capoeira guys and move like that. | ||
| That would throw a guy off. | ||
| What do you guys think about Daniel Cormier and Bader? | ||
| I would have to go with Cormier. | ||
| That's gonna be a great fight, man. | ||
| That's gonna be a great fight, man. | ||
| I love Beta. | ||
| I love DC. DC helps me out a lot. | ||
| They're both really good dudes. | ||
| They're good for the sport, man. | ||
| That's a good way of describing it. | ||
| Yeah, they're great for the sport. | ||
| DC's from New Orleans. | ||
| It's in his hometown. | ||
| Dude, you look at DC's track record, there's not too many dudes beating him. | ||
| There's one guy on this earth who can beat him, it's Jon Jones. | ||
| I don't think he will ever beat Jon Jones. | ||
| Yo, how good is Jon Jones? | ||
| What the fuck? | ||
| It's frustrating. | ||
| We're watching greatness, man. | ||
| I don't think we'll ever get someone as good as Jon Jones. | ||
| I just don't. | ||
| You might be right, man. | ||
| That motherfucker is bad. | ||
| He's something special. | ||
| Oh, and guess what? | ||
| Now he's training full-time, moved to Albuquerque. | ||
| Have you seen his Instagram? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| His Instagram where it's just this balling house in Albuquerque? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That means there's no distractions. | ||
| He's training full-time. | ||
| Oh, you thought he was good before? | ||
| Good. | ||
| Enjoy that. | ||
| Beautiful. | ||
| Beautiful. | ||
| You can say the same thing about Anthony Johnson. | ||
| Yeah, you can. | ||
| Yeah, you can. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| We've seen Anthony lose, though. | ||
| We have seen Anthony lose. | ||
| We've seen issues in Anthony's game. | ||
| We have. | ||
| We've never seen an issue in John Jones' game, ever. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| Well, you know what? | ||
| We have that one aspect of Anthony Johnson's game that you can't neglect when you talk about him. | ||
| That's the fucking extreme weight cut that he used to make. | ||
| He made the most extreme way cut in the sport ever. | ||
| We used to all see him walking around in hotels in between fights and he would be e-fucking-normous. | ||
| He would be like 220, 230. Even 240. I saw him at 240. Oh my god! | ||
| And then he would fight at 170. What? | ||
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Why the fuck didn't someone sit him down like, bro? | |
| You're cutting 80 pounds. | ||
| Why don't we relax? | ||
| Homie, relax. | ||
| Why don't you fight somewhere else? | ||
| What are you doing, dude? | ||
| Yeah, what's the thought process then? | ||
| He likes being a bully. | ||
| Is that what it is, man? | ||
| I think. | ||
| Why the fuck else? | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| Well, you know, there's also... | ||
| How about this? | ||
| Some guys think that they're not doing all they can do to be a champion unless they cut as much weight as they can to get to a lower weight as they can, and they think it's a part of the discipline. | ||
| How ridiculous is that? | ||
| They think it's a part of the discipline of being a fighter that you have to make that weight, and they look at it as a badge of courage. | ||
| They have to cut that weight. | ||
| He's missed weight so many times, someone should have just been like, yo, my man. | ||
| Okay, well, how about Weidman then? | ||
| What do you think about Weidman? | ||
| Weidman has a hard cut to 185. He makes it. | ||
| He makes it pretty... | ||
| Well, he's obviously the most professional because he's the champion, right? | ||
| He always gets on weight, even in the fucking... | ||
| He's never missed it, though. | ||
| That's the difference. | ||
| He almost missed it. | ||
| He didn't almost miss it, but he had a really hard time with it in the fight with... | ||
| What the fuck's his name? | ||
| Italian boxer? | ||
| Oh, uh, Philippou? | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| Sakuraba. | ||
| Or, uh, uh... | ||
| Alessio Sakara. | ||
| Damn it. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| How could I not remember that? | ||
| Legionarius. | ||
| Alessio Sakara. | ||
| He took that fight, I think that was on, like, a real short notice. | ||
| He took that fight and the Maya fight on super short notice. | ||
| That's what it was. | ||
| It was the Damien Maia fight. | ||
| It was on TV, right? | ||
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That was eight days, bro. | |
| That was eight days. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's different. | ||
| That was it. | ||
| That's different. | ||
| The Legionnaires fight, he crushed him, right? | ||
| Yeah, crushed him. | ||
| Maia went to decision, short notice. | ||
| And it was a stand-up fight most of the time. | ||
| That was when Ray Longo was yelling at his corner, I saw what you got through at the fucking weigh-ins. | ||
| If you can lose that kind of weight, kid, you can get through this. | ||
| Like, you can get in the pep talk. | ||
| Yeah, during the fight, yeah. | ||
| How great is Ray Longo? | ||
| The thing with Weidman, though, is, again, there's no holes in his game. | ||
| It's not like Anthony Johnson. | ||
| We've seen him cut weight and there's holes in his game. | ||
| Weidman, we haven't seen him, man. | ||
| That dude is a bad motherfucker. | ||
| He's an animal. | ||
| He's an animal. | ||
| He's a special type of Long Island animal that you never want to have a fight with at a bar. | ||
| How about his boy, Iaquinta? | ||
| He's crazy. | ||
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I love it. | |
| I love that. | ||
| I wish I was there to interview him, man, when he did that. | ||
|
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I love that. | |
| When he was like, boo me? | ||
| No, fuck you. | ||
|
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Boo me? | |
| Fuck you. | ||
| I loved it. | ||
| He didn't get in trouble for that, right? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I hope not. | ||
| They should give him a bonus. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| $100,000. | ||
| I wanted to get, if I was there, I wanted to climb through the fucking screen and interview him. | ||
| I wanted to. | ||
| He was the best, man. | ||
| I wanted to, like, when he was saying, fuck you, I wanted to, like, first of all, it wasn't his fault. | ||
| You don't boo the fighter. | ||
| He's not the judge. | ||
| He went out and gave it his all. | ||
| But John Anik was like, okay, looks like we've got some curse words here. | ||
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See ya! | |
| Yeah, just shut up. | ||
| He was like, alright Al, take care. | ||
| You didn't even ask him to stay. | ||
| I would have congratulated him on a really tough fight. | ||
| It was a great fight. | ||
| How did you score the fight? | ||
| I thought Masvidal probably edged him. | ||
| Oh, I disagree. | ||
| Really? | ||
| No, I had Al winning two and three. | ||
| I think I thought the first round was pretty dominant for Masvidal. | ||
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I agree. | |
| And I think the other two rounds, I thought Masvidal did just enough. | ||
| Ooh, I disagree. | ||
| You know, I didn't think it was nearly as dominant as the first round. | ||
| I would like to go over again and watch it with you. | ||
| Let's do that. | ||
| Let's go over again. | ||
| We'll watch it after the fight. | ||
| That'll be cool to do. | ||
| Would you say Meslodal is a 10-8 first round? | ||
| I could see it being a draw if you want to go that route. | ||
| I could see a draw if you give it 10-8 that first round. | ||
| Well, I think there definitely should be a wider disparity in scoring. | ||
| If that is a 10-9, but then the last two rounds were also 10-9, well, that's obviously right there. | ||
| That fight demonstrates it, right? | ||
| That fight demonstrates the difference between the first round, the domination that Masvidal showed in that first round, and then the really debatable second and third rounds. | ||
| Masvidal kind of coasted though, especially the third round and the second round. | ||
| I thought he was losing it, man. | ||
| Kind of did. | ||
| And he hasn't... | ||
| Well, you know, who knows? | ||
| This is the thing, dude. | ||
| You know it as much as I knew it. | ||
| You never know what the fuck's going on with these guys when they get in there. | ||
| He could have been clipped. | ||
| He could have been clipped in the second round. | ||
| We don't know. | ||
| And he was coasting because he just wasn't there. | ||
| Well, it could have been that he was hurt in training. | ||
| Oh, big knee, dude. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| Huge knee. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| Knee central. | ||
| We haven't mentioned this fight once. | ||
| Not once. | ||
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How rude. | |
| How rude. | ||
| Let me find out what fight this is. | ||
| We're the worst commentators ever. | ||
| The main event and co-main event is the bomb. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Especially the co-main event. | ||
| That's the best fight on the card. | ||
| Which one's that? | ||
| That's Minnawa versus the Polish cat. | ||
| The Polish cat has beaten a lot of UFC guys that a lot of people don't know. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| He beat Houston Alexander. | ||
| Jamie, can you put up the card, like the full card, so we can see what the whole main card is? | ||
| This is, we're right now, we're watching Paolo, Pawlok, and Sheldon Westcott. | ||
| Looks like a good fucking fight so far. | ||
| But we're talking about all kinds of other shit. | ||
| First of all, I gotta go back to this Roy Nelson thing and strongly disagree that he gets a fucking haircut. | ||
| Bro, get a stylist, dress these guys proper, so they don't look like assholes. | ||
| No, he looks like Roy goddamn Nelson. | ||
| He's a fabulous human being. | ||
| Not everybody has to be Metro. | ||
| Not everybody has to be a beautiful, handsome cop. | ||
| The UFC can hire me as a stylist. | ||
| The first thing I All I want to do is go to Joanna, the 115-pound champ. | ||
| I'm like, yeah, that business button-up you're wearing, let's get rid of that. | ||
| Let's ditch that. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| That's hilarious. | ||
| Roy, no more t-shirts, bellies, and jean shorts. | ||
| I love Roy. | ||
| I love Roy too, man. | ||
| He's a great guy. | ||
| What's next for him? | ||
| That's a good question. | ||
| Because he lost over him. | ||
| The more unique characters we have, the better. | ||
| That's fine. | ||
| He can dress nice and be a character. | ||
| You don't have to look like fucking... | ||
| I feel like they just booked a fight for him. | ||
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Goddammit. | |
| You see that documentary of the Sheik yet? | ||
| The Sheik? | ||
| Yeah, the Iron Sheik documentary? | ||
| No, this documentary? | ||
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Fucking good! | |
| Is it? | ||
| I love me some docs. | ||
|
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You know, when you think, you know, I was into the WWF. I was into the WWF. I just watched Culture High, by the way. | |
| It's pretty good, right? | ||
| Fucking dope. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If I could, I would do it, but I would, I mean, I was like, damn, I'm... | ||
| I'm pro weed now. | ||
| The Iron Sheik story, dude, the Iron Sheik story is fucking amazing. | ||
| You know, he was an Iranian national champion wrestler who ended up being a bodyguard for the Shah. | ||
| The Shah loved the wrestlers and the top Iranian wrestlers. | ||
| And his main bodyguard dude, forget his name, but he was the best Iranian wrestler ever. | ||
| And he was his main bodyguard, the Shah. | ||
| That dude ended up committing suicide. | ||
| So everyone thought, oh shit, he got killed. | ||
| So the Iron Sheik, he was one of the bodyguards, he decided to bolt. | ||
| He bolted to Minnesota, dude. | ||
| He has beautiful skin. | ||
| But he was the second best wrestler in Iran. | ||
| And he started teaching the Olympic wrestling team. | ||
| Number one. | ||
| World champion. | ||
| World champion. | ||
| And you know what's crazy? | ||
| You know why? | ||
| He wasn't even like... | ||
| You know how his character is the Iron Sheik with that... | ||
| What do they call those head pieces? | ||
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Turbans? | |
| But it wasn't a turban. | ||
| Iran was totally westernized. | ||
| He had nothing to do with any of that. | ||
| None of those guys are like that. | ||
| He was a wrestler. | ||
| He was an athlete. | ||
| He was a regular dude. | ||
| He wasn't like that. | ||
| But once he slowly started getting into pro wrestling in Minnesota, he would coach the college team there. | ||
| They were national champions five years in a row. | ||
| He was an amazing wrestler. | ||
| At University of Minnesota? | ||
| Yes, somewhere in Minnesota and for the Olympic team. | ||
| He was the man in wrestling. | ||
| And he started getting into pro wrestling, not as the Iron Sheet, just as an American Olympic coach type. | ||
| He was an American, but he was really Iranian. | ||
| So someone told him, his wife told him, he goes, you should... | ||
| His wife suggested that he uses that because... | ||
| Because she likes money? | ||
| Well, we were in that Iran... | ||
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Exactly. | |
| Right? | ||
| Like, wrestling's great, why don't we make some fucking money and you get a personality. | ||
| At that time, at that time, yeah. | ||
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Right? | |
| Wrestlers are dead broke. | ||
| That's when we were at, we were about to go to war with Iran back then, and everybody, you know, the whole terror hostages, the whole Iran hostages thing. | ||
| So, they took advantage of that. | ||
| They jumped on that. | ||
| How crazy is that to do? | ||
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Smart, man. | |
| For him, though. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| In America... | ||
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He loved it. | |
| He loved being the heel. | ||
| Really? | ||
| He started blowing up in Minnesota. | ||
| Then Vince McMahon heard about this. | ||
| The reason why he ended up being... | ||
| Listen, the reason why he ended up being... | ||
| He ended up getting the championship belt. | ||
| He beat Bob Backlund. | ||
| But the way that shit's decided, they talk about this openly about how Bob Backlund was the American WWF champion. | ||
| What the hell? | ||
| Again? | ||
| Dude, what is going on? | ||
| They wanted to bring in Hulk Hogan. | ||
| How are we going to make him a champion? | ||
| Vince McMahon goes, well, he can't beat the American champion. | ||
| We need a villain to come in to beat Bob Backlund so then Hulk Hogan saves the day. | ||
| We have a villain champion for like a year or two. | ||
| Makes sense. | ||
| And then it blows up. | ||
| So they needed the perfect villain. | ||
| They fucking found it. | ||
| They found Iron Sheik. | ||
| Perfect timing. | ||
| The crazy thing about Iron Sheik is he wouldn't lose. | ||
| Because in reality, he knew he could beat everybody here. | ||
| Because he's a real wrestler. | ||
| Yes, exactly. | ||
| Kind of like Brock. | ||
| Even Hulk Hogan. | ||
| They all talk about this in the documentary. | ||
| Yeah, Hulk wasn't a real wrestler. | ||
| The reason why the Iron Sheik was... | ||
| The only one that would beat him was Hulk Hogan. | ||
| Because he was the best wrestler. | ||
| He could fucking hole up. | ||
| And they all know it. | ||
| They all knew it. | ||
| So he took... | ||
| And Hulk Hogan says this, you know, says Iron Sheet could have beat... | ||
| He could beat anybody in any room. | ||
| For real. | ||
| So for him to lay down for me and let me and pass the torch to me, that created Hulkamania. | ||
| Him passing the torch. | ||
| You ever seen Hulk Hogan's sex tape? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| If they actually had a wrestling. | ||
| You ever seen Hulk Hogan's sex tape? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, don't laugh and point me talking about the gentleman's sex tape. | ||
| You've never seen it? | ||
| Have you seen it's sex tape? | ||
| It's the best. | ||
| There's so much sadness in that sex tape. | ||
| That would have been no Hulkamania. | ||
| Oh, I think it's glorious, man. | ||
| That's hilarious. | ||
| Still looks good in shape. | ||
| I didn't watch it. | ||
| I watched a few seconds of it. | ||
| He still yoked. | ||
| He still yoked. | ||
| Dude, Hulk Hogan's arms are huge still. | ||
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He fucking yoked. | |
| Yote! | ||
| Brown skin? | ||
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How old is he? | |
| That's a weird love triangle. | ||
| Someone got betrayed in that weird love triangle. | ||
| It was like his best friend's girl or something like that. | ||
| They have some weird thing. | ||
| In the middle, he's like, hold on, Nick's calling while he's getting his dick sucked. | ||
| Checks his phone. | ||
| It's the Hulkster, man. | ||
| I'm not mad at him at all. | ||
| That is hilarious. | ||
| No one gave a shit, right? | ||
| About a sex tape. | ||
| I think real WWE fans were sad. | ||
| How dare you, Hulk? | ||
| What if you found out that Hulk did that on purpose? | ||
| I'd be a bigger fan. | ||
| Oh, and they talk about Iron Sheik being a massive coke head. | ||
| Like, he got busted with Hacksaw Duggan in a car. | ||
| They got pulled over, and they had a bunch of coke and weed on them. | ||
| Think about the nights those two had. | ||
| He partied hard. | ||
| Iron Sheik is a mad partier. | ||
| Did you see that ad for Stipe Miocic? | ||
| That's a good fight. | ||
| Good googly moogly Brendan Shaw. | ||
| That's a good fight. | ||
| That's a fucking fight. | ||
| Big, big fan of Stipe, man. | ||
| After that fight with Junior Dos Santos... | ||
| I was like, this guy, he's still getting better. | ||
| He's still getting better. | ||
| He's fucking really good and still getting better. | ||
| You're smiling, you heavyweight son of a bitch. | ||
| Competitive motherfucker. | ||
| I think, don't get me wrong, Stipe's a fucking monster. | ||
| He's a monster. | ||
| I think that fight was more of Dos Santos, the Cain Velasquez fights took its toll on him. | ||
| A lot of people believe that. | ||
| That's a little bit of speculation. | ||
| He has like a surgery every other week. | ||
| Yeah, he's definitely beat up. | ||
| I've heard that. | ||
| I've heard that speculation. | ||
| Your boy Noguero's fighting again. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Struve. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Why your boy? | ||
| Why do you say that? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Well, we both love him. | ||
| Yeah, love him. | ||
| All of us love him. | ||
| Fuck yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You have to love him. | ||
| Yeah, it's hard to watch the real legends like that. | ||
| Breaks your heart. | ||
| Keep going out. | ||
| Like, the Roy Nelson fight was hard for me to watch. | ||
| That was the worst fight I've ever seen. | ||
| That was the worst fight where I was like, oh my god. | ||
| It was like a shotgun going off. | ||
| Yeah, when he got KO'd, you know, it was tough to watch. | ||
| I told you, man, when Little Nog fought Anthony Johnson, I was in the back, warming Pat Cummings up, because I was calling Pat for that fight, and he was just so beat up, and his body was so beat up, he couldn't even hit mitts. | ||
| He was just sitting down, like we are now. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Burt comes by. | ||
| You know how Burt goes. | ||
| Fire in the hole! | ||
| You're up! | ||
| No sweats. | ||
| Walks up. | ||
| Fucking prison stare. | ||
| Walks up, goes out there, gets fucking annihilated. | ||
| Do you think that he's just had too many fights? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Too much training time. | ||
| Too much. | ||
| Too many wars in the gym. | ||
| Too many wars in the octagon. | ||
| You're talking about one of the best ever, man. | ||
| Yeah, so back to that Jamie Varner thing. | ||
| Jamie Varner was saying that he believes he's had about 30 concussions. | ||
| 30? | ||
| Yeah, or maybe more. | ||
| That's what his doctor had estimated. | ||
| I don't know how his doctor estimated that. | ||
| They did it through an MRI, a brain scan. | ||
| I don't know what they did. | ||
| But whatever it was, his doctor urged him to retire. | ||
| And, you know, then he started talking about cognitive issues, memory issues, things along those lines. | ||
| Then he sees a cognitive therapist once a week to deal with them. | ||
| This guy's got good jiu-jitsu, man. | ||
| He's very good. | ||
| I can't name too many fighters who have retired where I'm like, God damn, that guy's sharp. | ||
| You're doing really well, my man. | ||
| I can't name too many of my... | ||
| Randy seems fine, man. | ||
| When you talk to Randy, Randy Couture is very lucid. | ||
| He's fine. | ||
| And he had his last fight really late in life. | ||
| I think he was 48, his last fight. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| And what, he started competing at, what, 42? | ||
| 36, I believe. | ||
| It was his first UFC fight. | ||
| I was there. | ||
| That was in... | ||
| That comb-over? | ||
| That was in... | ||
| My hair was luscious. | ||
| Fucking dope. | ||
| Dude, he got a rear naked choke in his first UFC. Randy Couture. | ||
| Randy Couture, Tony Halma. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, he choked out Tony Halma. | ||
| And he fought this other dude, too, that night that had real promise. | ||
| I forget the gentleman's name. | ||
| Did he get his back? | ||
| He got his back as well, right? | ||
| I don't remember what he did to him. | ||
| He might have mounted him and ground and pounded him. | ||
| But the Tony Halma one was big right hand, ducked under it, took him down, had his will with him. | ||
| Couture's a legend. | ||
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Woo! | |
| What? | ||
| Stud. | ||
| How about when Lyoto kicked his tooth out and he's like, you know what? | ||
| I'm done with this bullshit. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| He's like, enough. | ||
| Front kick to the face. | ||
| Goddamn movies. | ||
| About to do some Expendables series. | ||
| Expendables 67. Yeah. | ||
| He's an animal. | ||
| I feel real bad that he and the UFC had that falling out. | ||
| Well, it's because of his son too, right? | ||
| Like he cornered his son or some shit like that, right? | ||
| Well, I don't know if you can quantify what started it out, but I think the thing that kicked it into overdrive, I think there was a few issues over the years, but the thing that kicked it into overdrive was him doing that Bellator show. | ||
| Yeah, that'll do it. | ||
| Yeah, after they put him in the UFC Hall of Fame, he signed up to do that Bellator show. | ||
| The show was terrible. | ||
| You know what, man? | ||
| We all have different opinions about these things. | ||
| You thought the show was good? | ||
| No. | ||
| You tuned in every week like, I can't wait. | ||
| I didn't watch it, honestly. | ||
| I mean, different opinions about whether or not he should have been able to go into some rival organization and pump up the organization. | ||
| Probably not. | ||
| It's, you know, debatable. | ||
| It's tough, man. | ||
| He's a champion of one organization. | ||
| But you gotta do what you gotta do, man. | ||
| If people offer you some money, you know, and you have an opportunity like that. | ||
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I agree. | |
| The UFC's not giving him a stipend after he's retired. | ||
| I got weird feelings on competitiveness in MMA right now. | ||
| Competition amongst organizations in MMA. And my weird feeling is, I don't think it's necessary. | ||
| And I think it'll be a lot less of this now that Scott Coker is over at Bellator. | ||
| You think a lot less? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I think it goes up. | ||
| I don't think so, man. | ||
| Oh, you're crazy. | ||
| I think the hostility is not going to go up. | ||
| Ooh, I disagree. | ||
| Because Bellator's going to get bigger. | ||
| Yeah, it's going to get bigger. | ||
| Because Scott Coker's legit. | ||
| He is legit. | ||
| But I think the UFC likes him. | ||
| They worked with him when he was the owner of Strikeforce, and it is possible. | ||
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That was then. | |
| Yeah, it is possible. | ||
| It's all fun and games until Bellator's a legit threat. | ||
| Have you watched Bellator lately? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I watched it last night. | ||
| I don't miss one. | ||
| I don't miss the UFC. Don't even matter how I'm UFC to the day I die, but I don't miss one. | ||
| Dude, I enjoyed it. | ||
| Marcin Held has got some fucking nasty jujitsu. | ||
| Hell yeah. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| How about your boy Joe Schilling? | ||
| How about Joe Schilling? | ||
| It was a good fight. | ||
| He thought he won the fight after it was over. | ||
| But Edgebrook... | ||
| Gotta do like this. | ||
| Gotta do like this. | ||
| You're gonna eat. | ||
| We gotta remember. | ||
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Brooks. | |
| He thought he won the fight, but it was a very close fight. | ||
| Super close. | ||
| Takedowns are tough. | ||
| Yeah, Schilling did more damage, but the dude did get dominant position on him a bunch of times, which shouldn't mean as much, but oftentimes the way they score it, it does. | ||
| When the guy's on top of you and side control for a prolonged period of time, for whatever reason, that's worth a lot, even if he doesn't hurt you. | ||
| It is, but it probably shouldn't be. | ||
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I agree. | |
| We should probably figure out what is one thing where you're controlling a guy, but if you're controlling a guy and you're not getting any damage done, what difference does that make? | ||
| Is it 50% of controlling a guy and doing damage? | ||
| Is it less than that? | ||
| You've got to quantify it. | ||
| The one positive thing I saw in Bellator is when homeboy Emmanuel fought. | ||
| He just lost to the Henzo Gracie guy. | ||
| Emmanuel Newton? | ||
| Emmanuel Newton. | ||
| Yeah, I didn't see that fight. | ||
| I missed that fight. | ||
| If you watch that fight, Emmanuel took the guy down a ton and the guy was so active off his back, triangle, armbar, so active, and they gave him the win. | ||
| Because he was just threatening non-stop. | ||
| You know who does that? | ||
| Charles Oliveira. | ||
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Yes. | |
| You get that kid on his back and he's scrambling on his back. | ||
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You know what? | |
| Cowboy's similar. | ||
| We don't see it a lot. | ||
| Very similar. | ||
| Cowboy's guard game is nasty. | ||
| That's what I'm interested in seeing in this fight. | ||
| Can you imagine if Cowboy could submit Habib? | ||
| Be sick. | ||
| Good googly moogly. | ||
| I hope he does. | ||
| Good googly moogly. | ||
| That is a tough fucking fight. | ||
| Tough fucking fight. | ||
| That's a tough fucking fight for both guys. | ||
| Speaking of tough fights, I saw a fucking Machida yesterday spar five rounds like it was nothing. | ||
| Not shit. | ||
| He could go 10. Really? | ||
| That fight's in two weeks, too, man. | ||
| Goddamn! | ||
| How's he look? | ||
| Best I've ever seen him. | ||
| Do you want to talk about a professional? | ||
| What? | ||
| The fuck? | ||
| Well, he has to be. | ||
| He doesn't have much time left, man. | ||
| You know? | ||
| I mean, you think he's 36, 37 years old? | ||
| His athletic prime is probably, you know, right now is about maintaining the super high level he's at right now. | ||
| But, like, biologically... | ||
| In this day and age, without taking anything, you're going to start to experience that pretty significant diminishment. | ||
| I'm telling you, man, though, there's no one more professional than him. | ||
| He's awesome. | ||
| They need a documentary on Liotto just called The Professional. | ||
| That motherfucker's just... | ||
| He's a legit martial artist, 365 days a year. | ||
| Yeah, he's a super nice guy, too. | ||
| Does he still drink urine? | ||
| Hey, how dare you? | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| How dare you bring that up? | ||
| No, I think someone schooled him on that. | ||
| They're like, yo, you can't be drinking piss again. | ||
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Hey, I'm not talking shit. | |
| I drank urine. | ||
| I drank my piss a couple times. | ||
| I tried it for like a month. | ||
| Did you really? | ||
| Did you try it too, Joe? | ||
| Yeah, I tried it a few times. | ||
| I tried it too. | ||
| After I saw Machido do it, I was like, shit, I'm just going to heat this shit up. | ||
| Really, it's not that big a deal. | ||
| You know, everybody makes it out that it's a big deal. | ||
| It's your own piss. | ||
| It's really... | ||
| I did it with a DJ on the radio and he almost threw up. | ||
| It was hilarious. | ||
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Really? | |
| This dude no name in San Francisco. | ||
| I don't think he thought I was going to do it. | ||
| He was like, Joe, will you drink this piss? | ||
| Well, it's really stupid to do. | ||
| Don't do it, folks. | ||
| But there is some thought that certain vitamins or antioxidants... | ||
| I forget the rap. | ||
| I would never do it if I read about it today, but when I did it back in the day, I was a little bit more susceptible to... | ||
| The internet has schooled me on the reality of drinking your piss. | ||
| I was in the UFC, I saw the cheetah do it, and I started drinking piss, man. | ||
| That's how it goes. | ||
| This is the way I look at it. | ||
| I don't know shit about why I'm... | ||
| We can't just piss out of our asses. | ||
| Why do we need our dicks to get rid of liquid waste? | ||
| I mean, that's science. | ||
| Where is this coming from? | ||
| It's science, bro. | ||
| What I'm thinking is your piss is designed to clean that important urethra out multiple times a day cleaning bacteria so that your piss can't be filled with bacteria. | ||
| It's cleaner. | ||
| It's cleaning your dick out. | ||
| Your body made cleaner for your dick to keep it clean. | ||
| So when you shoot out sperm, it's healthy and clean. | ||
| Dude, you should be a scientist. | ||
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Right? | |
| Straight up. | ||
| That's my guess. | ||
| That's my guess. | ||
| Straight up scientist. | ||
| That's my guess. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I tuned out about ten seconds into that. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You don't think that makes sense? | ||
| It does a little, I guess. | ||
| It does! | ||
| There has to be a special reason for piss, or otherwise we just piss out of our asses. | ||
| Every animal does it that way, too. | ||
| But women don't ejaculate, and they pee out of their vaginas, too. | ||
| So, that throws a little monkey wrench into it. | ||
| No, no, no, because everyone's born a woman. | ||
| Everyone's not born a woman. | ||
| Everyone's hatched a woman. | ||
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That's hard. | |
| When you're an embryo, everyone's a woman. | ||
| I did not know that. | ||
| That's why we have nipples. | ||
| I did not know that. | ||
| Really? | ||
| That's why we have nipples? | ||
| Yeah, whatever the difference in the chromosomes are. | ||
| Obviously, I'm doing a shitty job of the biology here, but we're XY. That's what men are. | ||
| I've always had a set of tits, man. | ||
| That Y gets established. | ||
| Testosterone kicks into gear. | ||
| And you become a boy. | ||
| But everything in the beginning, every embryo, whatever it is, every embryo starts out as a female. | ||
| And then we're raised to be obsessed with as men. | ||
| Dick size. | ||
| No, when it comes to women, to less than nothing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's a void. | ||
| There's nothing there. | ||
| It's nothing. | ||
| It's a hole. | ||
| It goes in and there's a void. | ||
| Have you heard of that Lady Valor? | ||
| The Navy Seal? | ||
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Hold on. | |
| What do you mean? | ||
| I'm just trying to take a different route. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I'm just trying to take a different route. | ||
| I'm just trying to figure out what you're saying. | ||
| You know, when a girl likes a guy's private parts, there's actually six, seven, eight inches of a thing that they have to... | ||
| For some reason, they like the way it looks. | ||
| I don't like the way it looks. | ||
| But when it comes to... | ||
| When it comes to female genitalia, we are obsessed with a void. | ||
| There's nothing. | ||
| Not only is there no eight inches, but it goes eight inches deep of nothingness. | ||
| So there's just a void that we have to... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| We're obsessed with. | ||
| That doesn't make any sense. | ||
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Exactly. | |
| It makes zero sense. | ||
| It's not a void. | ||
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It is. | |
| There's nothing there. | ||
| It grabs your finger, dude. | ||
| That's the outer edges of the void. | ||
| No, the inside grabs your finger. | ||
| It squeezes. | ||
| That's like saying your mouth is a void. | ||
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It is. | |
| It's a hole. | ||
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What? | |
| The vacuum, bro. | ||
| The greatest stone biology rant of all time. | ||
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Hold up. | |
| Why the fuck does that say Jacare versus Chris Camozzi? | ||
| Where's my boy fucking... | ||
| Oh, that's right. | ||
| You didn't hear? | ||
| Yeah, he got hurt. | ||
| No fucking way. | ||
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When? | |
| Yeah, he got hurt. | ||
| He got hurt a couple days ago. | ||
| Jacare and Camozzi already fought. | ||
| Jacare cemented him in like three seconds. | ||
| Camozzi gets a rematch on fucking Fox. | ||
| Good for him. | ||
| Yeah, I like him, but he's a Denver boy. | ||
| He's a great dude. | ||
| I like that dude. | ||
| Great opportunity. | ||
| He brings it. | ||
| One day. | ||
| Boom. | ||
| Big brown up in there. | ||
| 205. One day. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
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That look. | |
| Joe's on. | ||
| I'm trying to figure out the rankings here. | ||
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Did you hear Big Brown mention 205? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| What do you weigh right now? | ||
| I'm about 247. I've lost six pounds in a week. | ||
| How does it feel to lose six pounds? | ||
| Glorious. | ||
| Does it feel good? | ||
| Yeah, I feel great, man. | ||
| You feel physically good? | ||
| Great. | ||
| What did you do? | ||
| Would you change? | ||
| Just calories or the type of food? | ||
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Calories. | |
| I was doing it myself, you know, for like two or three months, and you just can't do that, man. | ||
| So I hired a nutritionist. | ||
| And do they prepare the meals for you and everything? | ||
| Yeah, drop them off every Sunday. | ||
| Meals, water, plan, everything. | ||
| I check in with them all the time. | ||
| It's way easier that way, right? | ||
| Way easier. | ||
| So do you get one of those body fat tests and a body composition test? | ||
| Do they do that stuff too? | ||
| No. | ||
| No? | ||
| He can. | ||
| I just don't want to drive out there and do all that shit. | ||
| The good thing with those is those are numbers. | ||
| You know, you get it down on paper. | ||
| You got to make sure that you're hydrated because those things, the equipment that they use, unless they're dunking you, It can be a little fuckery. | ||
| There's always like a plus or minus 3% on those things, right? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Unless you go on those bod pods. | ||
| I think they say the calipers, the little pinchy things, are like the least effective. | ||
| The most effective is the flotation. | ||
| This is a bad motherfucker, Jimmy Manoa. | ||
| He is a bad motherfucker. | ||
| His only loss is to Augusta. | ||
| Dude, he's only been doing MMA for like six years. | ||
| He's like a super athlete. | ||
| Straight off the street, right? | ||
| Yes, super athlete. | ||
| Good athlete, for sure. | ||
| He's a nasty striker, dude. | ||
| Serious fucking power. | ||
| This Jan dude's no punk, man. | ||
| He's beat tougher guys than Jimmy. | ||
| Jimmy hasn't really beat anyone. | ||
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I think you have to call him Jan. | |
| Is his name Jan? | ||
| Is it Jan? | ||
| How do they say it? | ||
| Because in Denver, Colorado, we call him fucking Jan, alright? | ||
| Where's he from? | ||
| He's from Poland. | ||
| This is his hometown. | ||
| Denver, Colorado. | ||
| In Denver, Colorado, we call him Jan. | ||
| But it's probably Jan for sure. | ||
| Yeah, he said Jan. | ||
| Yeah, so Jan's beat Houston Alexander. | ||
| He's beat Sokuju. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| You remember that, what's his fucking name? | ||
| Relic? | ||
| You remember that dude, Goran Relic? | ||
| Yeah, Goran Relic. | ||
| That badass Croatian? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Beat him. | ||
| What happened to that dude? | ||
| That dude had mad potential. | ||
| I don't know, right? | ||
| He had skills. | ||
| I think he got injured. | ||
| I was just thinking about him today. | ||
| I think he got injured. | ||
| His stand-up was nasty. | ||
| He was a mean dude. | ||
| Yeah, he was really good. | ||
| I think Manawa's the favorite. | ||
| I'm taking my boy Yan, or as we call him in Denver. | ||
| Strong words. | ||
| Strong words for... | ||
| I know, right? | ||
| Colorado kid. | ||
| What? | ||
| I guess this guy's just a hero out there in Poland. | ||
| My feelings about this whole Bellator UFC thing is, there doesn't have to be some crazy fucking hatred between the organizations. | ||
| Everybody would benefit if everybody benefits. | ||
| I really believe that the sport of MMA still has room to grow. | ||
| And I think that a big organization that is alongside the UFC is not a bad thing. | ||
| And it's a very good thing for the athletes. | ||
| It's great for the athletes. | ||
| It's better for the athletes than it is the UFC. It's very good for the athletes. | ||
| I think the UFC is obviously above and beyond in terms of the talent. | ||
| It's not even close. | ||
| It's not even close. | ||
| But it's not a bad thing to have Bellator around. | ||
| I think they do a great job. | ||
| I enjoy the shit out of the fights. | ||
| Yeah, I like them, man. | ||
| I don't miss them. | ||
| I enjoyed the shit out of Joe Schilling's fight. | ||
| That was a great fight. | ||
| I like how Joe Schilling does glory and Bellator. | ||
| He's a fucking beast. | ||
| That dude is a straight-up savage. | ||
| He's a straight killer. | ||
| Super talented. | ||
| And a real good dude, too. | ||
| Real good dude. | ||
| How many of those Bellator guys do you think would come over to the UFC? They're champs and do well? | ||
| Not many. | ||
| You know what, man? | ||
| You really don't know until they get in there. | ||
| You don't know. | ||
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Look at Eddie Alvarez. | |
| Well, he fought Donald, and Donald was on point. | ||
| Just saying. | ||
| Donald was on point. | ||
| But then he lost again. | ||
| Yeah, he did. | ||
| Who'd he lose again to? | ||
| Didn't he lose to Henderson? | ||
| Look at all the fighters that came from Strikeforce and... | ||
| Hold on a second. | ||
| Strikeforce is different! | ||
| Why do I feel like that fight got cancelled? | ||
| Maybe you're right. | ||
| Did Eddie get hurt in that? | ||
| Because that's a hell of a fight. | ||
| Jesus Christ, why can I not remember that? | ||
| I can't remember either. | ||
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Headshots! | |
| Alright, let's see, Ben Sutton. | ||
| This is your best fight on the card right here. | ||
| Yeah, I agree. | ||
| Well, you know what? | ||
| I'm very curious to see what happens in the main event. | ||
| I am too. | ||
| It feels 2003. We're already at the co-main event? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's not that many fights. | ||
| Is this a two hour show? | ||
| No. | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| Man, we've been here one hour and we're already at the co-main event. | ||
| That's weird. | ||
| It's also Fight Pass. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Eddie Alvarez lost to Cowboy and they lost one more. | ||
| Okay, the last fights for Benson were Brandon Thatch, and then the Donald Cowboy Cerrone fight, and then Rafael Dos Anjos. | ||
| Rafael Dos Anjos before that. | ||
| I'm making fights up, everybody. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think that was a fight that was scheduled. | ||
| It was supposed to happen, right? | ||
| It didn't take place. | ||
| Who was Eddie's last fight? | ||
| Because he's lost two, I thought. | ||
| I didn't know that he lost two. | ||
| Why do I not remember that? | ||
| I love Google. | ||
| Oh, God, it's awesome. | ||
| Oh, Cerrone beat him, and then who beat him after Cerrone, though? | ||
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He beat Michael Chandler? | |
| Chandler was in Bellator. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Who are you looking up, Jamie? | ||
|
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Eddie Alvarez? | |
| Yeah, he beat Michael Chandler to leave Bellator. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I think he's only fought once, dude. | ||
| And then he got hurt. | ||
| He's supposed to fight Ben, right? | ||
| Yeah, I don't think he's... | ||
| Fight Pass went down again? | ||
| Listen, Fight Pass. | ||
| Fight Pass. | ||
| It keeps kicking me off and I have to re-log in. | ||
| This is really dumb. | ||
| I'm gonna sign in with Facebook. | ||
| See if it makes a difference. | ||
| Powerful Jimmy Manoa. | ||
| I love listening to the European commentators. | ||
| I love the way they talk. | ||
| His only one fight was Donald. | ||
| You're trying to give him more losses because he's so handsome. | ||
| Dude, his eyebrows are on point. | ||
| He's beautiful. | ||
| He for sure gets those wags. | ||
| I'm really excited to see him adjust to the higher level of competition because I think he will. | ||
| You do? | ||
| Yeah, I think he will. | ||
| I think you'd be surprised. | ||
| He needs some work with his leg kick checking, obviously. | ||
| I just don't think he ever fought a guy who is as slick as Donald on his feet. | ||
| When you say higher level guys, who are you talking about? | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I see potential in him. | ||
| He's not young. | ||
| That's what I was just gonna say. | ||
| It all depends on how much damage he got through those Chandler fights. | ||
| He's fighting in Japan forever? | ||
| He's had some hard fights. | ||
| Some really crazy, crazy wars. | ||
| He's a wild motherfucker. | ||
| I love watching him fight. | ||
| Me too. | ||
| I love it, man. | ||
| Yeah, he's wild. | ||
| He's great. | ||
| But you know as well as I know, when you have a wild style like that, there's only so much fucking area on the board. | ||
| Yeah, the Michael Chandler phrase. | ||
| You get to a higher level where the pros go, okay, you're wild, check this out. | ||
| Yeah, well, just open yourself up, you know, and it makes it super exciting. | ||
| I mean, we all know those guys who just go to war at the beginning of every fucking round, and they're super exciting to watch. | ||
| They're a fan favorite. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And then next thing you know, two years down the road, you're fucking three and six sitting at home watching these guys who were winning by wrestling and being smart. | ||
| And you can win that way. | ||
| That's what's kind of crazy. | ||
| Like, sometimes you can win that way. | ||
| And when you win that way, it's wild to watch. | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| So it's like no one, if you win that way, you did the right thing. | ||
| But if you want to look at it as a long-term proposition. | ||
| Can't fight that way. | ||
| You can't fight that way. | ||
| There's no way. | ||
| The long-term proposition is, yes, Leonard Garcia is a good example. | ||
| Plus you gotta remember the amount it takes on your brain. | ||
| Yeah, Leonard was just a wild motherfucker. | ||
| Fun to watch. | ||
| So down. | ||
| This one's gonna be wild. | ||
| Fuck yeah it is. | ||
| How do you say Buckwaltz, how do you say his name? | ||
| Let's just call him Jan. | ||
| Let's do this, Jan! | ||
| Jan, let's talk like we're in English. | ||
| Jan went to the barber and said, can I just get that Chuck Liddell? | ||
| Is there any way you can just give me the Chuck Liddell? | ||
| Jan Blakovic. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| Jan's beat some good guys, man. | ||
| You gotta remember, he beat that Latifi. | ||
| You remember Latifi? | ||
| Has Manawa fought since he fought Gustafson? | ||
| Nope. | ||
| This is his first fight. | ||
| He said he's been working a lot of stuff. | ||
| Eating that jab. | ||
| Hard jab by Jan. | ||
| Hard jab. | ||
| Need a few more of those. | ||
| Jan too, hometown. | ||
| He's fought here before. | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| I like his chances, although he's the underdog. | ||
| A good fucking jab is one of the most underrated weapons, man. | ||
| And the UFC, I think it's still the most underutilized tool. | ||
| Even more than kicks? | ||
| Yeah, I think kicks are definitely underutilized as well, but man, there's something about a jab. | ||
| It's so quick and effective. | ||
| Look at Musashi. | ||
| Look at GSP. Yeah, if you've got a real good jab, you can really disrupt a guy striking. | ||
| Now, would you say Yen's stiff? | ||
| Do that. | ||
| No, I like the way he's throwing that jab, man. | ||
| I love the jab. | ||
| I like the jab. | ||
| I feel like Jimmy's a little more loose. | ||
| Oh, look at that left hook. | ||
| Look at that Manoa left hook. | ||
| That was pretty. | ||
| That left hook to the liver was nice. | ||
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| That's the thing about Manoa, man. | ||
| The amount of impact he puts on shit. | ||
| Yeah, super explosive. | ||
| Very exciting to watch. | ||
| Motherfucker can pop. | ||
| Like I said, though, you get to those higher levels, man. | ||
| Look at that knee to the body. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, look, Gustafson got him. | ||
| That was a good fight. | ||
| Gustafson showed what he's made of in that fight. | ||
| This is like Gustafson and Anthony Rumble Johnson stuff going back and forth on Twitter. | ||
| The headbutt? | ||
| Well, no, it wasn't even that. | ||
| A lot of people have brought that up, though. | ||
| You absolutely positive that it was a headbutt? | ||
| When you watch the tape, yes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I want to watch it again. | ||
| I'd like them to fight again, though. | ||
| It seemed to me like it was definitely a headbutt. | ||
| That's what it seemed like. | ||
| But still, I would like to watch it again. | ||
| Before I would say, you know, oh, it was a headbutt. | ||
| It was one of those ones where he was throwing the right hand at the same time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So I don't know what landed first. | ||
| Man, when you watch the tape in slow motion, it looks like the head does land first. | ||
| But either way, he beat him. | ||
| I don't give a shit, headbutt or not. | ||
| Yeah, and the right hand did land behind the headbutt. | ||
| It did land. | ||
| Yeah, so who knows? | ||
| It's a question of which one fucked him up first. | ||
| The headbutt definitely, if he did crack into him, which I believe he probably did, it looks like from the angle, it's not one of those definite ones. | ||
| You know, where you could see absolutely side-on. | ||
| Have you seen it? | ||
| You could see the heads collide. | ||
| Have you seen it? | ||
| Yeah, it's pretty good. | ||
| It's definitely a headbutt. | ||
| We'll watch it again. | ||
| Did you hear Alexander said he wanted to retire after that fight? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Hey man, it's a tough loss. | ||
| In front of your hometown, home country like that. | ||
| Tough loss. | ||
| I can't wait to see him and Glover fight next. | ||
| That's a good fight. | ||
| Great fight. | ||
| It's a good fight and both guys need it. | ||
| And Glover is, you know, I usually walk around like 230, 240? | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| 220. That's good, yeah. | ||
| It's 220 right now. | ||
| Well, he realized in that last fight that he just didn't have the gas tank to deal with Phil Davis. | ||
| And he also trained in, like, Connecticut in a garage. | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| I think that's all he had available. | ||
| Is it? | ||
| Yeah, he had to stay. | ||
| He had to stay in town. | ||
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Really? | |
| This one for some reason. | ||
| I think it might have had something to do with family or something like that. | ||
| Makes sense. | ||
| Yeah, I think that was the story behind it. | ||
| So he put together his own crew down there of good guys, but you know what, man? | ||
| I mean, how many dudes, I don't have to tell you, how many dudes don't have someone managing their training? | ||
| How many dudes don't have someone who's like a Mark Henry type dude? | ||
| 96% of the UFC. Yeah, 96%. | ||
| I think that's the right number. | ||
| The main event in this, Gabriel Gonzaga, a guy who just has trained out of Team Link. | ||
| He's the fucking Link. | ||
| He's the biggest dog in the gym. | ||
| Who knows the potential he could have had if he went to Greg Jackson's or American Top Team. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| But he stays in Boston. | ||
| Well, he's got a family. | ||
| I get all that. | ||
| I get all that. | ||
| Convenience. | ||
| I know what you're saying. | ||
| But you know what, man? | ||
| When Randy Couture beat him, he beat him when he was in his total prime. | ||
| That was when Gonzaga was in his prime. | ||
| And Randy just took it to him. | ||
| Even Gonzaga out of his prime is a fucking beast, man. | ||
| He's been knocking a lot of dudes out. | ||
| That was the scaredest I've ever been for a fight, hands down. | ||
| I was so scared. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Terrified. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Just because of the power? | ||
| The power. | ||
| World champion jiu-jitsu. | ||
| You know, he's knocked out some fucking monster. | ||
| Crow Cop. | ||
| He's been in there against the best. | ||
| That Crow Cop knockout was terrifying. | ||
| That was the scaredest I've ever been. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| I wish I could find that again. | ||
| Gotta be honest. | ||
| For reals. | ||
| I'm not scared anymore. | ||
| Do you think that's just because you've had so many experiences? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And in the training room, I go against scary dudes all the time. | ||
| So when I fight, I'm not as scared. | ||
| It's not good, man. | ||
| There's nothing like that fear of God in you to make you... | ||
| Wow. | ||
| So, yeah, I see what you're saying. | ||
| It becomes almost too confident or too comfortable. | ||
| Yeah, I've been too comfortable. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| Jimmy Mano was throwing some nasty kicks, dude. | ||
| Yeah, he is. | ||
| A lot of good power behind those kicks. | ||
| That was a good round. | ||
| Give it to Jimmy. | ||
| Yeah, I hear what you're saying about Gonzaga. | ||
| Goddamn talented, huh? | ||
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Fuck! | |
| What? | ||
| And he's really worked on his boxing his last few fights, and I think that could be a really interesting aspect in this fight. | ||
| No, Gonzaga, you're a world champ. | ||
| Take him down, submit him, my man. | ||
| Gonzaga on top of you is some of the best jiu-jitsu in the UFC, man. | ||
| Why do you think he abandoned that and just decided to bang? | ||
| You think it was because of wrestlers? | ||
| No, he took Shane Carwin down. | ||
| If you remember that, he was kind of whooping Shane's ass. | ||
| Yeah, it was 40 seconds, but he took Shane down, rocked him, took him down, and Shane got up and said, oh, cool story. | ||
| Boom, jab, knocked you out. | ||
| Well, he got a little careless. | ||
| He had Shane hurt, and he got careless, and he ran into a short punch that just kicked the fucking generator down the street. | ||
| I was like, oh my god. | ||
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Bang! | |
| It was a generator tumbling down the street with a cord following behind it. | ||
| That's what happened to his brain with that right hand connected. | ||
| I also think Gonzaga has a mental issue with cardio. | ||
| So when you want to grapple a wrestler guy, especially in the UFC at this point, it's going to take a lot of energy. | ||
| A lot of energy, man. | ||
| I think he's worried about that. | ||
| Dude, Shane Carwin is probably the last guy you want to get hit with a short punch from. | ||
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Ever. | |
| Ever in the history of fighting. | ||
| You guys fucking... | ||
| They don't make him like Shane, man. | ||
| There's still build on that fucker. | ||
| He's just so ridiculous. | ||
| So much power. | ||
| And pretty loose with his fucking hands. | ||
| Fuck, yeah. | ||
| Shane was an athlete, man. | ||
| Like that Frank Mir KO? Jesus fucking Louisus. | ||
| I'll never forget that. | ||
| Frank Mir's corn's going... | ||
| He's not doing shit here, just rest. | ||
| I'm like, rest? | ||
| Shane has an underhook. | ||
| He has an underhook and he's smashing uppercuts through with fucking ferocious intention. | ||
| That was some of the best striking from the clinch in the heavyweight division I've ever seen. | ||
| That one fight. | ||
| I don't think there's... | ||
| No, I don't think there's any other heavyweight who can hit like Shane from an underhook with that much power. | ||
| Name someone who's knocking dudes out like that. | ||
| No, he hits you so fucking hard, and he's fast and loose even for a big giant dude. | ||
| And his leverage. | ||
| Yeah, and he throws perfect punches. | ||
| I mean, those are perfect power punches. | ||
| All Shane did is box. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| I think his deal, Shane's deal, unfortunately, in the UFC will always have been the injuries that he sustained before he got to the UFC. 100%. | ||
| It's too bad because he was a real goddamn freak. | ||
| A real freak. | ||
| Best I've ever seen. | ||
| I've seen a lot of guys. | ||
| Shane in his prime when he's getting ready for Gonzaga is the best fighter I've ever seen. | ||
| I've seen a lot of dudes, man. | ||
| That's strong words. | ||
| Goddamn, dude. | ||
| That's strong words. | ||
| Oh, and he's a fucking engineer. | ||
| He's like a superhero. | ||
| Yeah, he's smart as shit. | ||
| He's like a fucking thick Professor X, man. | ||
| When I hear about a dude like that, that's, you know, the back issues just ultimately ended it, and you think about all the hits that he probably took in football, and you could erase those and see a guy like that compete without coming in already fucked up to a certain extent. | ||
| And wrestling, though, too. | ||
| Wrestling, he said. | ||
| That took a lot out of him, too. | ||
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Yeah, man. | |
| Gotta imagine. | ||
| He's wrestling these big, giant motherfuckers. | ||
| What do you think of Todd Duffy, Frank Mayer? | ||
| Todd Duffy's a beast, man. | ||
| Todd Duffy throws some fucking heat, too. | ||
| Todd Duffy's a beast. | ||
| Todd Duffy and I were training partners for a while. | ||
| I like Todd. | ||
| Todd's biggest problem has always been himself. | ||
| His mind. | ||
| If he's tentative against Frank, he's gonna get destroyed. | ||
| If Todd Duffy performs like he does in the training room, Todd Duffy's probably gonna be fighting for a title next year. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Strong words. | ||
| I also exaggerate everybody. | ||
| No, for reals though, anyone who's ever trained with Todd, ask DC, ask Kane, he's been at AKA, ask everyone down in Florida at ATT. He's been in Denver, he's been to fucking every gym in America. | ||
| But if Todd performs like he does in the training room, he's a fucking nightmare. | ||
| But when you see him in the octagon, it's just not there yet. | ||
| I hear you, man. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| You know, if you look at some of his finest moments, the Anthony Hamilton fight, goddamn, he throws some fucking fast power punches still. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| Anthony Hamilton's not gonna fucking, you know? | ||
| Yeah, Anthony Hamilton's a big boy, too. | ||
| Those were crisp punches. | ||
| Yeah, they were. | ||
| Straight down the pipe. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Anthony just ate them. | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| Which you can't do at heavyweight. | ||
| Well, Frank Mir, how about that fucking jab, left hook? | ||
| He landed on Bigfoot. | ||
| Frank Mir looked fucking nasty. | ||
| It looked loose. | ||
| There's never been a fight that Frank's fought besides Shane Carwin where I don't root for Frank Mir. | ||
| What he's done for the sport, I root for him every single time. | ||
| And he switched his stance. | ||
| Now he's fighting... | ||
| Traditional. | ||
| He used to be southpaw, traditional. | ||
| He threw that faint jab, left hook, knocked Bigfoot out. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Bigfoot's a fucking nightmare, man. | ||
| Do you wonder though? | ||
| I mean, Bigfoot went down pretty quick against Orlovsky, and he went down pretty quick against Frank Mir, and we know for a fact that Bigfoot, if anybody needs testosterone replacement therapy, it's Bigfoot. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| Bigfoot has a legit tumor on his pituitary gland. | ||
| Apparently, according to the interviews that he's done, he would have to get surgery, and he's going to eventually get surgery to have it removed. | ||
| You know, but his testosterone is not like normal persons. | ||
| You can't fight in the UFC then, man. | ||
| I hate to be shitty about it because I love Bigfoot. | ||
| He's one of the nicest guys. | ||
| He's one of the nicest guys. | ||
| But if you require that and you can't fight in the UFC. Right. | ||
| Because I want the same shit you're taking then. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| I need a bigger head. | ||
| Give me the same shit you're taking. | ||
| But you would have to, if you were going to do that, if you're going to let people do it, you would have to be monitoring them all times of the day to make sure they're not putting superhuman levels in, and then everybody would have a level of testosterone they're allowed to achieve. | ||
| Never going to happen. | ||
| Maybe you wear a fucking iWatch. | ||
| Yeah, right? | ||
| It reports back to the UFC headquarters. | ||
| Yeah, it checks in every day. | ||
| I mean, that's not outside the realm of possibility. | ||
| They have watches that tell your fucking heartbeat now. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| It's kind of a good idea. | ||
| If they could figure out a way to test your testosterone, maybe just point your camera at your dick every day and it would know just by the way the dick's moving. | ||
| But then your testosterone goes up real high, right? | ||
| Like, if I'm a ladies man, I'm just destroying chicks. | ||
| I'm like, goddamn, Schaub's testosterone was like nine times high this day. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Right, that could be. | ||
| Yeah, if you could be around a bunch of pretty ladies. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| Your body gears up. | ||
| I'm in L.A. Someone in Idaho is probably not the same, you know? | ||
| You know, they say that that's true. | ||
| That men around attractive women, like literally, their bodies produce more testosterone. | ||
| 100%! | ||
| You know what else? | ||
| Engines. | ||
| Like a rumbling engine, like a V8, like your American muscle car. | ||
| For whatever reason, that makes your body produce more testosterone. | ||
| They have no idea why. | ||
| Because it sounds like a fucking dragon. | ||
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Manly. | |
| War machine. | ||
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I don't mean war machine, a fighter. | |
| Yeah, definitely not. | ||
| Yeah, it's crazy. | ||
| You think about things that actually make your body produce more hormones. | ||
| Hot chicks in cars, man. | ||
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What else? | |
| What else? | ||
| Isn't it funny, though, that you're criticized for being a foolish person? | ||
|
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Oh, I know. | |
| If you enjoy hot chicks and cars. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Oh, you. | ||
| Such a meathead. | ||
| You fool. | ||
| Oh, I'm sorry. | ||
| I'm sorry to my fucking DNA to love big-ass titties and Porsches. | ||
| My bad. | ||
| Yeah, you're sorry that you enjoy some of the most fun things ever. | ||
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Ever. | |
| You're sorry. | ||
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Ever. | |
| Because it makes you dumb. | ||
| Like, there cannot be one without the other. | ||
| No, man. | ||
| What's going on here? | ||
| What's going on here? | ||
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How come they haven't begun their own yet? | |
| Do-do-do-do. | ||
| Powerful UK. Here we go, round two. | ||
| Three. | ||
| Three? | ||
| Did I say two? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We didn't even talk about the second round. | ||
| We just talked about titties. | ||
| We did talk about titties and why we love them. | ||
| Not to judge us. | ||
| Jeez, man. | ||
| Yeah, it's funny that certain things are thought of to be for fools. | ||
| But cool cars are one of them, for whatever reason. | ||
| You're never going to see a science professional that drives a sick vet. | ||
| No, it's weird. | ||
| A sick vet and just have a girlfriend with a blowout ass. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| I mean, Neil deGrasse Tyson's probably the closest. | ||
| But he would have to put on a mask when he was driving around a Corvette. | ||
| You know? | ||
| People wouldn't take him seriously if he was ballin' in a sweet Corvette. | ||
| Yeah, there's no college professors out there with Ferraris and girlfriends as big-ass dudes. | ||
| Isn't that interesting? | ||
| Einstein was a wild motherfucker. | ||
| He was like a rock star. | ||
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He... | |
| That was pre-Twitter. | ||
| Yeah, before he got judged by everyone. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| He married his cousin. | ||
| That's pretty gangster. | ||
| That's pretty weird. | ||
| He had a first marriage, had a couple kids. | ||
| Wasn't that great of a father, according to this documentary. | ||
| And then ended up marrying his cousin, and she became like his manager, too. | ||
| And he was allowed to see anybody he wanted. | ||
| And she was cool with it. | ||
| Sounds awesome. | ||
| That's why he's the smartest guy ever. | ||
| What does his cousin look like? | ||
| She's shlubby. | ||
| She was shlubby. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| Really? | ||
| They just made a deal. | ||
| But they were... | ||
| It was a deal. | ||
| They made a deal. | ||
| So the deal was when girls would come over, they'd have to bring her chocolates. | ||
| That was a requirement. | ||
| That's it? | ||
| Chocolates. | ||
| Chocolates, now I'm going to go suck your man's dick. | ||
| And then they jump in the car and disappear for a couple days. | ||
| That's a good deal. | ||
| Einstein was a mad player. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| Damn, I did not know that. | ||
| Jimmy Maniwa. | ||
| I had no idea. | ||
| He was a rock star. | ||
| I like him even more. | ||
| I hate him even more. | ||
| Yeah, you know who's allowed to that are sort of scientists? | ||
| Well, they're not scientists, but they're super geniuses. | ||
| They're allowed to get those kind of cars. | ||
| It's like video game designers. | ||
| True. | ||
| Those super geniuses like the John Carmack type characters. | ||
| You know what that guy does in his spare time? | ||
| Oh, nothing. | ||
| Just makes rockets. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, makes his own rockets. | ||
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On the side? | |
| Yeah, he's the lead software guy, the lead designer, whatever, the lead computer genius at Quake, at id. | ||
| Fuck, man. | ||
| At id Game Crea- I don't know what the actual name of the studio. | ||
| It's just id. | ||
| But they created Doom, they created Quake 1, Quake 2, Quake 3, Quake 4. Yeah, they made a bunch of fucking crazy games. | ||
| That John Carmack guy, in his spare time, he turbo charges Ferraris. | ||
| He takes a Ferrari and he's like, mmm, not strong enough. | ||
| Have a solution. | ||
| And he bolts gigantic turbochargers to Ferraris. | ||
| Good-looking dude, too? | ||
| He's not a bad-looking guy. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, he does judo too. | ||
| Shit! | ||
| Yeah, judo, jiu-jitsu. | ||
| Does he live in LA? No, he lives in Dallas, Texas. | ||
| He's a bad motherfucker. | ||
| He's a legit super genius. | ||
| Like, you know, I have a dull mind, as it were, but when I talk to, like, legit super geniuses, I'm usually okay. | ||
| Like, I can talk to them about things. | ||
| But when I'm with Carmack, I'm like, don't make mistakes. | ||
| Stay on road. | ||
| It's like, just nervous. | ||
| Totally nervous. | ||
| Say the wrong word. | ||
| Don't talk about shit you don't know. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Stay in your lane. | ||
| Don't pretend you know some shit, bro. | ||
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Stay in your fucking lane. | |
| Like if you're on a motorcycle and you're following a guy who's a motorcycle racer and you're trying to keep up with him and you know you shouldn't be driving this fast. | ||
| Just be the student and ask questions. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| Ask questions. | ||
| Yes, absolutely. | ||
| Don't try to make statements. | ||
| Well, he would talk about programming and he would talk about code and coding. | ||
| How old is he? | ||
| Carmack? | ||
| It's a good question. | ||
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Is he like a Doogie Howser kid genius? | |
| I believe he's like 40 now, because Quake has been around for a long time. | ||
| I mean, they created Quake, I think, in the early 90s. | ||
| I don't remember what year it was. | ||
| Would you rather be a super athlete like Michael Jordan or a straight fucking genius like an Einstein or your boy at Quake? | ||
| See, I don't think they're mutually exclusive. | ||
| I think that the only way... | ||
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Really? | |
| I think genetically, I don't think they're mutually exclusive. | ||
| I think it's very possible that you can get a guy who has the physical talents of Michael Jordan and has an insanely powerful brain. | ||
| It's totally possible. | ||
| You can have both. | ||
| No, it's not true. | ||
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Which guy? | |
| Who in the history? | ||
| It's possible. | ||
| But the thing is, in order to have that much knowledge in your head and that much data bouncing around your head, you're not going to be in the gym and you're never going to reach that level. | ||
| There's one or the other in terms of what you focus your attention on. | ||
| But in terms of having the brain that has the capacity to reach super genius levels, I don't think they're mutually exclusive. | ||
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Wow. | |
| I'm just guessing. | ||
| See, I think you're wrong. | ||
| Do you take the hundred smartest guys in the world... | ||
| Not very good athletes. | ||
| What do you think they would look like? | ||
| You take the hundred smartest guys in the world. | ||
| They look like Mr. Burns. | ||
| Low hit. | ||
| They look like Mr. Burns. | ||
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Is that it? | |
| They look like shit. | ||
| That was the end of the fight. | ||
| I thought it was a low shot. | ||
| I thought they were separating him. | ||
| That was a war. | ||
| I didn't think that one was going to be a decision. | ||
| Jan Blakovic is a tough motherfucker. | ||
| Did I say his name right? | ||
| It's going to be tough for Jimmy to get a decision win. | ||
| In Jan's hometown? | ||
| I think the UFC probably brought... | ||
| Polish commission? | ||
| Is it a Polish commission? | ||
| I would imagine, because they have big promotions out there. | ||
| Was it K-something? | ||
| It's a big promotion that Jan was a previous champ of. | ||
| How do you say, Blakowicz? | ||
| Blakowicz? | ||
| Blakowicz. | ||
| He's tough as fuck, dude. | ||
| That guy can take a beating. | ||
| That was a good fight. | ||
| He's going to feel that one tomorrow. | ||
| As is Manawa. | ||
| Not too bad. | ||
| Yeah, not too bad. | ||
| But I mean, a lot of shots to the body. | ||
| Manoa throws those nasty knees to the body man We weren't watching the second round close enough No, we weren't to judge it. | ||
| Because we were talking all kinds of shit about booties and Mustangs and shit. | ||
| And geniuses. | ||
| Corvettes. | ||
| Einstein. | ||
| That Lazar, that Bob Lazar guy. | ||
| Remember that guy? | ||
| That guy had a Corvette that was hydrogen powered. | ||
| He made it hydrogen powered. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| He took a Corvette and converted the engine to run on hydrogen. | ||
| What a crazy story it is. | ||
| Because of either way, what he's saying is... | ||
| An incredible story. | ||
| Either he's telling the truth or if he's lying, he's one of the greatest actors. | ||
| He's so smart. | ||
| You've got to be able to fake some genius shit. | ||
| Do you know about it? | ||
| No. | ||
| Eddie, explain. | ||
| Tell them what Bob Lazar is. | ||
| You're better at explaining that shit than I am. | ||
| What's Bob done? | ||
| Bob Lazar was a former scientist, according to him, was a former scientist. | ||
| He worked at Area 51. They brought him in because he was a scientist and because he knew a lot about propulsion systems and theoretical propulsion systems. | ||
| He's like, I guess he's a physicist or something like that. | ||
| I don't know what his background is as far as his education. | ||
| Because it's in dispute. | ||
| There's a lot of people that say that he fudged his education. | ||
| He says he's full of shit. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| However, this guy says that he was working in Area 51. And he was working on something. | ||
| They brought him in to back engineer a UFO. They brought him in and they took him to some... | ||
| This is him right here. | ||
| They took him to some hangar... | ||
| I bet that guy gets mad chicks. | ||
| Well, dude, it's not about that. | ||
| What I'm saying is this dude was working on what they were explaining to him, nothing. | ||
| But what he believed over time was that what he was working on was back-engineering a UFO from another world. | ||
| Damn, do you believe him? | ||
| He is the most convincing of all the people that have ever heard discussed these things. | ||
| Really? | ||
| The most convincing. | ||
| He breaks it all down. | ||
| He breaks down anti-gravity and how it works and everything. | ||
| He doesn't seem like an idiot at all. | ||
| He definitely seems like a fucking very, very, very intelligent dude. | ||
| He doesn't seem like he's lying. | ||
| Has he wrote lots of books? | ||
| No, I don't believe so. | ||
| I don't know how many books he's wrote. | ||
| But I'm too dumb to know whether or not he's stupid. | ||
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Me too. | |
| I don't know. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Like, I'm too dumb. | ||
| Like, he sounds right, but it could be like some martial arts guy that's talking all kinds of mad nonsense about what his, you know, his chi gong is gonna do to you if you get near him. | ||
| And if you're not in that world, you're like, shit, son! | ||
| Yeah, my friend knows a guy with a chi gong. | ||
| Fucking put it on your chest, man. | ||
| That's where we're at right now. | ||
| There's guys that believe that. | ||
| So, and if someone speaks well enough, we sort of, like, assume they know what the fuck they're talking about. | ||
| And I listen to him talk, and he sounds like he knows what the fuck he's talking about. | ||
| It's a very compelling story. | ||
| Has he made any money off saying any of this? | ||
| I'm sure he has. | ||
| I would imagine. | ||
| If you really want to get into it, you would have to Google it, because I haven't really read about it in about seven or eight years. | ||
| I kind of put it behind me. | ||
| I kind of decided somewhere along the line there was no fruit in this pursuit, because they couldn't figure out whether or not he had lied about his educational background. | ||
| They couldn't figure out whether or not he had actually worked for the government. | ||
| It should be easy, right? | ||
| Well, they found out that he did work for one of the labs that he said he worked for. | ||
| He worked for, like, Los Alamos. | ||
| They did find out that that was true. | ||
| So how the fuck did he get that job if he didn't have, like, a super high-level education? | ||
| But who knows what the fuck he was doing there when he was working there? | ||
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True. | |
| People that are, like, real scientists have a lot of doubts about all the shit that he said. | ||
| That's pretty much enough for me. | ||
| But if I just want to have fun... | ||
| I want to pretend that it's true. | ||
| If I want to pretend, because it is fun to pretend it's some fucking dude. | ||
| And there's so much footage of him being interviewed and explaining how it all works. | ||
| He's an amazing actor if he's full of shit. | ||
| I'm just too stupid to understand it. | ||
| He could easily be full of shit, but fuck, this guy's good. | ||
| He's super smart. | ||
| It sounds like he knows what he's talking about when he's discussing anti-gravity, but who the fuck knows? | ||
| But when you say all these other scientists are coming out, man, this dude's full of shit. | ||
| Well, when I say that, like Stanton Friedman, he's probably a bit of a hater, but he makes some good points, man. | ||
| When you say you graduated from, fill in the blank, MIT, whatever it is, you should be able to display a degree. | ||
| Do you have a degree? | ||
| Are you on their records? | ||
| And if you're not on their records, and if you can't display a degree, then Then I have to dispute everything you've said. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| If you're lying about a degree. | ||
| But is it possible that, especially we're talking about something a long time ago, is it possible that someone could go back to the records at that school and scrub him from the records? | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| Here's why it's not possible. | ||
| Yearbooks. | ||
| True. | ||
| Someone produced a yearbook. | ||
| Why wouldn't one of just his classmates be like, yeah, I was in class with him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Someone would come out and be like, I was in class with that fucking dork. | ||
| Yeah, well, he should be able to name his professors. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And he can't, huh? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'm calling bullshit. | ||
| Yeah, from what I have read, I would say he hasn't, but who knows how much of what I've read is the truth or what Eddie was saying. | ||
| Because I know if I graduate from Harvard, I have a fucking Harvard shirt on right now. | ||
| You guys would hear about it non-stop. | ||
| Do you ever hear the Eliza Schlesinger story about Yale? | ||
| No, she's a friend of mine, though. | ||
| Google it. | ||
| Eliza Schlesinger. | ||
| She's a friend of mine, though. | ||
| No, no, no, it's not bad for her. | ||
| She dated this guy that was pretending he was from Yale. | ||
| Oh, she did tell me this story on the podcast. | ||
| Holy shit, it's ridiculous. | ||
| She got catfished, and the dude said he was from Yale. | ||
| Not just catfished. | ||
| Like this dude made up a story about his mom having cancer. | ||
| This dude made up his job. | ||
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House. | |
| Made up his house. | ||
| Made up that he was rich when he's really like $100,000 in debt. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He wasn't even broke. | ||
| He made a Facebook profile or what? | ||
| I don't know what he did. | ||
| It really wasn't even a catfish. | ||
| He's just a fucking compulsive liar. | ||
| And then he got a credit card to take her out to like fancy dinners and shit. | ||
| But he racked up all this money on a credit card where he didn't have the money. | ||
| Dude, he was on an airplane with her. | ||
| Guy's a hero in my book. | ||
| Just kidding. | ||
| Well, she's not dumb, which is really weird. | ||
| Hell no, she's a sharp girl. | ||
| Well, that's what's really weird about it. | ||
| It's like, how did you get caught with this? | ||
| I mean, I guess, this seems like so many lies. | ||
| You didn't get tripped up anywhere? | ||
| I mean, what was he telling the truth about? | ||
| She said, though, he would lie about his mom being sick or dying, and so she didn't want to get too into it. | ||
| So it was like almost a wall. | ||
| No, it totally makes sense. | ||
| You know, like you don't want to dive into someone's mom dying. | ||
| Right, but... | ||
| The guy was smart. | ||
| But people were full of shit. | ||
| I mean, how good was this guy in regular conversation? | ||
| Must've been great. | ||
| Raphael Torrey. | ||
| Rafael Tori, Eddie Bravo, and I both have a story about a guy that was completely full of shit. | ||
| He was a fake black belt. | ||
| That's awesome. | ||
| A total fake black belt. | ||
| And when Eddie first introduced me to him, he was a reporter for websites. | ||
| He was going and doing the early MMA reporting. | ||
| And he would do like gonzo journalist questions, I think. | ||
| They were describing it as like you would ask dudes if they like fucking girls in the butt like weird weird weird questions and He was telling everybody that he was a black belt in jujitsu and then Eddie rolled with him and Eddie was like man, I don't know I mean maybe he's just like going really light No, no, he was smart. | ||
| He was smart. | ||
| He said that he was half Brazilian, half Italian. | ||
| And his dad, who's Brazilian, was a black belt in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. | ||
| And that he knew all the old guys, but he came from the Judo side. | ||
| So he was smart. | ||
| He said, we were more Judo guys. | ||
| We were old school Jiu-Jitsu than my dad gave me a black belt when I was 18 or whatever. | ||
| And we're not as good as like nowadays. | ||
| Jiu-Jitsu is so complex and so evolved. | ||
| We're not that good. | ||
| I'll admit that. | ||
| I'm a black belt. | ||
| I'm a black belt, but I'm old school black belt. | ||
| So he was smart. | ||
| So it was believable. | ||
| I bet he was so nervous when he had to roll with you. | ||
| Did you roll with him too, Joe? | ||
| No, I never rolled with him. | ||
| I wasn't really good friends with him. | ||
| Eddie was. | ||
| I mean, you weren't even good friends with him. | ||
| But I only hung out with him. | ||
| We worked together. | ||
| On what? | ||
| He was a writer for... | ||
| The Underground. | ||
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Oh, gotcha. | |
| The UG? Yeah, for the UG. And he was always at shows that I would commentate, like King of the Cage. | ||
| Is he still a writer for him? | ||
| No. | ||
| He's in jail. | ||
| He's in jail for murder. | ||
| This is where it gets really crazy. | ||
| This really escalated. | ||
| Oh, dude. | ||
| This is where it gets really crazy. | ||
| So, I'll take you back to when Eddie exposed him. | ||
| And Eddie, we were driving back from, like, King of the Cage? | ||
| Where were we driving back from? | ||
| One of those MMA fights way out in the middle of nowhere. | ||
| It wasn't that I exposed him. | ||
| Well, he was already exposed. | ||
| Yeah, he was already exposed. | ||
| I was the last one. | ||
| You know, dudes pulled me to the side and said this and that. | ||
| I mean, in a phone call to his face. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I mean, you basically, you confronted him. | ||
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Yes. | |
| I asked him about it. | ||
| It was pretty intense. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But it was a pretty intense call. | ||
| We were driving. | ||
| I was driving, and Eddie was right next to me. | ||
| I was like, oh. | ||
| At a Yukon Denali at the time. | ||
| I barely remember the conversation. | ||
| I barely remember. | ||
| I was like, oh shit. | ||
| Oh shit. | ||
| Yeah, you were going, dude, dude, dude, stop lying to me. | ||
| Stop lying to me. | ||
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Really? | |
| You are not a black belt in jiu-jitsu. | ||
| Did he admit it? | ||
| Dude, you are... | ||
| Listen to me. | ||
| Dude, listen to me. | ||
| You're a fucking liar. | ||
| You're lying. | ||
| Damn, Eddie went hard on him. | ||
| You're lying. | ||
| You're lying. | ||
| You're not a black belt in jiu-jitsu. | ||
| Do you know how crazy it is that you tell me you're a black belt in jiu-jitsu? | ||
| It was pretty crazy and you could hear him like stammering and stuttering. | ||
| For sure put that on speakerphone. | ||
| I wish I could remember all the shit that you said, but you broke it down in an undeniable way. | ||
| So then he killed a guy. | ||
| You're a crazy person. | ||
| Eddie Bravo cuts the guy off. | ||
| He cuts him off, and then our friend Gerald Streben, who was Eddie's first black belt, right? | ||
| No, Denny Probogos was your first black belt. | ||
| Gerald Streben was my first Before I even had a school, he was my first student that did MMA. Before, there was no thought of Tenth Planet. | ||
| I was just showing Gerald Streep in some jujitsu. | ||
| I was commentator for King of the Cage, and that's how I met Gerald. | ||
| He was... | ||
| He was... | ||
| Raphael's student. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| Okay, so Eddie comes and teaches him some real shit, has a bunch of real fights. | ||
| He gets contacted by this guy because the guy wants him to kill his girlfriend's husband. | ||
| He tells Gerald he wants him to kill his girlfriend's husband. | ||
| He's gonna give him a certain amount of money. | ||
| Gerald's like, what the fuck? | ||
| So Gerald goes to the cops. | ||
| No, Gerald goes to the cops after he killed himself. | ||
| The guy killed himself, choked him. | ||
| Apparently, like, had him come meet him at the gym, choked him to death, killed him, and then was seen driving around in his car. | ||
| What a dumbass. | ||
| Dude, it's crazy. | ||
| Maybe he was a little. | ||
| Driving around in homeboy's car. | ||
| Well, I don't think so. | ||
| You don't have to be to know how to rear naked choke somebody. | ||
| You know, you sneak up behind some fucking fat ass who doesn't work out at all, and you get a hold of his neck. | ||
| I mean, he wasn't, like, completely inept as a martial artist. | ||
| You know, he's like kind of an amateur martial artist. | ||
| There's some videos of him throwing a spinning back kick on a pad. | ||
| They're kind of hilarious. | ||
| It's kind of hilarious. | ||
| It really is like, you know, you getting a hold of Duncan and teaching Duncan some spinning back kicks for a couple weeks and then having him hit the pad. | ||
| It's fucking... | ||
| It's fucking preposterous. | ||
| Well, what's weird is this guy's been lying the whole time that he kills a guy with a jiu-jitsu move. | ||
| This is where it gets crazy. | ||
| He kills a guy, and then he gives Gerald a gun to bury. | ||
| Before that, though, before the murder, he set up a fake fight in King of the Cage. | ||
| Oh, that's right, yeah. | ||
| Against this big Samoan guy. | ||
| It was totally fake. | ||
| And they kept their mouth shut. | ||
| They made it happen. | ||
| So he ends up getting this big, giant Samoan guy like in a... | ||
| The shittiest knee bar ever. | ||
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He just taps. | |
| It's like a knee bar that's like that, and the guy just starts tapping, and he won. | ||
| And this fight was his comeback fight. | ||
| He told everybody he was 14-0 in MMA, but they were all undocumented fights. | ||
| Dude, I commentated that fight, and I was saying, Rafael Torres returns to MMA to defend his undefeated record. | ||
| I said shit like that. | ||
| He had everyone do it. | ||
| I'll take it to the next level. | ||
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He had everybody do it. | |
| He wasn't 14-0. | ||
| He never fought ever. | ||
| I'll take it to the next level. | ||
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That guy's awesome. | |
| I'll take it to the next level. | ||
| He had a friend drive him out to the woods, and he brought with him a giant duffel bag. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| He told his friend, drive me out to the woods. | ||
| I'm about to compete in a no-rules kumite. | ||
| You know, if I win, I'm gonna make a lot of money, and I'll come back with first place. | ||
| This is a true story. | ||
| Yeah, so he says to the dude, come back tomorrow. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| This was a newspaper journalist, a newspaper writer. | ||
| He took the local guy, a newspaper writer, and goes, I haven't told anybody, but I'm going to, in the woods, there's going to be this kumate. | ||
| Dude, what's wrong with this fucking kumate? | ||
| He goes, but I need you, I want you to write the story on this, but you're going to drop me off. | ||
| I can't show you where it's going to be. | ||
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So... | |
| So the newspaper writer drops him off like in the middle of nowhere in the woods, and he says, come back for me in two days, right? | ||
| And the guy had a big duffel bag with him, right? | ||
| With something long in it, right? | ||
| So the guy comes back two days later and picks him up. | ||
| So he was like camping out there, right? | ||
| He had like camping equipment. | ||
| He came out, and then he had this giant trophy. | ||
| He says, I won the Kumite. | ||
| Oh my god, that motherfucker packed the trophy? | ||
| So, so... | ||
| What does the writer do naturally? | ||
| He writes a story on it. | ||
| He takes that story, frames it, and puts it up out of school. | ||
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Fuck. | |
| That's so bananas. | ||
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Proof. | |
| Proof that it happened. | ||
| It was in the newspaper. | ||
| That's so goddamn bananas. | ||
| That's fucking crazy. | ||
| He's a genius! | ||
| At least you got a legit fighter coming out right now. | ||
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He's a genius. | |
| With Crow Cop. | ||
| Crow Cop's got a lot of redness on his nose. | ||
| First of all, we don't know if he didn't go to Akuma Tang. | ||
| No, we do. | ||
| There's no evidence that he didn't. | ||
| But we do. | ||
| So let's... | ||
| Let me wrap this story up real quick. | ||
| So Gerald calls me and tells me that the guy gave him the gun or something like that. | ||
| I forget what the conversation was. | ||
| I was like, what? | ||
| Huh? | ||
| Jesus fucking Christ. | ||
| And then Gerald gets a hold of the cops. | ||
| And apparently they were tapping his phone. | ||
| So the cops call me. | ||
| And they want to know what I know about the murder. | ||
| And I explained to them. | ||
| I go, look, I know almost nothing. | ||
| What I know is what Gerald told me. | ||
| Because they were listening in on our conversation. | ||
| So to say, what I know is what Gerald told me. | ||
| I told him everything I know. | ||
| What Gerald told me, the guy's a crazy liar. | ||
| He's a fake black belt. | ||
| I don't know if he really killed the guy or not. | ||
| Like, it's very conceivable. | ||
| This guy's so fucking crazy, he made that up too. | ||
| He might not even have killed somebody. | ||
| At this point, at least I think this, it's pretty much proven that he killed the guy now. | ||
| Fuck, man. | ||
| But, so, you know, I got involved in it too, man. | ||
| I thought, don't bring me to court. | ||
| Dude, come on. | ||
| Don't bring me to court because I met Rafael Torre at Eddie's house. | ||
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Don't make me do this, man. | |
| Don't drag me into this. | ||
| And then it gets even darker because Gerald killed somebody one day. | ||
| For fuck's sakes, man. | ||
| Gerald killed somebody like a year ago in a traffic-related incident. | ||
| Some guy and him were having some road rage incident and it got physical. | ||
| Gerald was actually on the phone with 911 and he fucking shot this dude. | ||
| And now he's in jail and he's on trial right now. | ||
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Dude. | |
| Some guy tried to run him off the road. | ||
| Some guy was drunk. | ||
| Gerald wasn't drunk. | ||
| I mean, the guy that was shot was drunk. | ||
| He rammed him. | ||
| Like, he stopped his car, pulled it in reverse, and rammed him. | ||
| Like, they were having, like, some road raid incident, and that guy was drunk. | ||
| Gerald gets out of his car. | ||
| He lives in Oregon. | ||
| He has a rifle. | ||
| He has his rifle, and the guy's talking shit, and he's coming for him, and Gerald starts... | ||
| He's, like, on the other side of the car, calling 911, said, you know, don't get near me. | ||
| Don't get near me, dude. | ||
| I'm calling 911. Don't get near me. | ||
| The guy's talking shit. | ||
| The guy came to him, and Gerald thought he had a gun, too, and he pulled it out, and he shot him. | ||
| Oh, God damn. | ||
| Is that what Gerald told you? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's what he told you? | ||
| That was a conversation you guys had? | ||
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That's not self-defense, though? | |
| That is self-defense. | ||
| It seems like it should be. | ||
| It is self-defense. | ||
| How long is he in prison for? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| The guy was drunk. | ||
| He runs him off the road. | ||
| He rams him. | ||
| He gets out with his gun going, what the fuck? | ||
| This guy's nuts. | ||
| The guy's coming for him. | ||
| He was drunk. | ||
| Gerald shot him. | ||
| He was on 911 saying, I got this crazy guy who just tried to run me off the road. | ||
| I'm standing right here. | ||
| And the guy kept coming. | ||
| He goes, stand back, sir. | ||
| Stand back. | ||
| Boom! | ||
| People are basing the possibility that Gerald might have been more of an instigator based on some of the things that he wrote on Facebook. | ||
| Apparently he had written something about, like, get out of my way when you're on the road, or something about... | ||
| And they'd been involved in some other sort of road rage type incident. | ||
| But who the fuck knows, man. | ||
| And also we have to deal with the fact that Gerald... | ||
| We know, for a fact, experienced a lot of action overseas. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| He served, and then he came back and did some tours for one of those, what do they call them, contractors. | ||
| Oh, like Blackwater shit? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He did a couple of those to finance his gym. | ||
| Fuck, man. | ||
| So, there's that. | ||
| And that's undeniable, man. | ||
| That fucks with a person's head. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| And when you're thinking about a person in an aggressive type situation and you've been in war before, you're used to people trying to kill you and you've got to kill them first. | ||
| And Gerald is in a different place. | ||
| He's in a different place than the average person. | ||
| So the average person that says, you know, hey, you can't consider the fact that he was, you know, in the war and he had PTSD. That's bullshit. | ||
| It does mean something. | ||
| No, I'm saying it does. | ||
| 100% should be like, listen, man. | ||
| He's under a different set of rules. | ||
| I'm arguing with them. | ||
| And there's some people that there's big misconceptions about martial artists that a true martial artist would have not used a gun, would have used his martial arts to handle the situation. | ||
| But that's all bullshit. | ||
| The more martial arts you learn, the more you know you need a goddamn gun in your house. | ||
| You need some guns because martial arts, the more you... | ||
| Learn it, you realize that's last resort when it's a life and death situation. | ||
| If it's in a sport or, you know, a controlled environment, that's one thing. | ||
| But, you know, Gerald thought the guy had a gun. | ||
| The guy tried to run him off the road. | ||
| He's got a gun. | ||
| You're not going to drop your gun and double leg him and try to arm him. | ||
| No, hell no. | ||
| That's tough, man. | ||
| If that's how the story went, that's tough. | ||
| If I have a gun and there's some crazy shit going down, guy's drunk, I'm gonna shoot you in the dick. | ||
| I'm gonna shoot you. | ||
| I'm not gonna shoot you in the face. | ||
| There ain't gonna be no rear naked choke. | ||
| Who knows if this guy has a gun? | ||
| You don't know. | ||
| That's tough, man. | ||
| If that's exactly how it went down, I agree with you 100%. | ||
| Obviously, I'm not questioning anything, but I was not there. | ||
| I don't know enough about him. | ||
| He was on 9-1-1 when this happened. | ||
| He was reporting the situation before the shot. | ||
| The shot is actually caught on 9-1-1 on the call. | ||
| So, I mean... | ||
| That's a crazy case, then. | ||
| Why do they have him in jail still? | ||
| If that's exactly how it was happening, if he really did deal with a madman... | ||
| And as a veteran, you'd think they'd show him a little leeway. | ||
| Well, who knows? | ||
| Maybe the other guy was a veteran, too. | ||
| No, no, there is history of past road rage, but that has nothing to do with this. | ||
| Just because you have a history of past road rage, you know... | ||
| It depends. | ||
| If he shot, like, six motherfuckers previous, then we have a problem. | ||
| If he's shooting people, yes, but there are no records of that. | ||
| Damn, 35 or 40? | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| This is it. | ||
| The main event, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| Main event. | ||
| The fucked up shit is they got him in solitary confinement this whole time. | ||
| It's already been over a year and the trial don't start until January and he's in solitary. | ||
| It's fucking bullshit, man. | ||
| Aaron Hernandez murdered like 19 people. | ||
| He's chilling. | ||
| Why do they pull him in solitary? | ||
| They're fucking... | ||
| They're just railroading him, man. | ||
| Why do they do that? | ||
| Something has to be going on. | ||
| We have to be missing a piece of the story. | ||
| I feel like he's getting this fucked over. | ||
| They're trying to say that he has, you know, people have said he's been involved in road rage before. | ||
| I don't know if it's documented officially, but it has something to do with that. | ||
| But that has nothing to do with this situation. | ||
| It's tough, man. | ||
| The dude was drunk. | ||
| The guy that got killed, he was wasted. | ||
| Gerald was not drunk, was not wasted. | ||
| He was coming from the supermarket. | ||
| These are all facts. | ||
| He had him on 9-1-1. | ||
| He was talking, he was on 9-1-1, telling the guy to back off, back off. | ||
| He keeps walking towards me, back off. | ||
| And then he popped him. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| I mean, it's on the record, so they're fucking him, man. | ||
| They're totally fucking him. | ||
| He's in solitary. | ||
| I feel like we're missing a piece of the story. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| We don't know. | ||
| We don't. | ||
| We don't know. | ||
| Some people get fucked, dude. | ||
| They agree. | ||
| That does happen. | ||
| Some people just get fucked, and he's getting fucked. | ||
| This Crow Cop Gonzaga's gonna go two ways. | ||
| It's either gonna be one of the saddest things we've ever watched, or it's gonna be a fucking classic. | ||
| Well, you've got to think that Mirko wants that win back. | ||
| That was one that probably haunts him. | ||
| That was his big fight in the UFC. His second event, right? | ||
| Eddie Sanchez was his first fight. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then he fought Gonzaga. | ||
| It's for a title shot, too. | ||
| The winner that was going to be a title shot. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| If you remember that, Randy was cage-side, and he was like, man, I'd rather fight Crow Cop. | ||
| Gabriel Gonzaga's too well-rounded, if you remember that. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Wow. | ||
| Gonzaga. | ||
| You know what, man? | ||
| There's something about Gonzaga when he walks on the scale, you know when I do the weigh-ins? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He sounds different than everybody else. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Sounds like he's made out of stone. | ||
| Like when he walks, it's like... | ||
| Tell you what, man, I fought both of them, and Mirko Krokop is the strongest guy I've ever fought, bar none. | ||
| Not even close. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| He was like a fucking rock. | ||
| Like Shane Carwin strong? | ||
| Even more so. | ||
| Like, Shane can kind of move. | ||
| Cro-Cop was like moving like the Thing from Fantastic Four. | ||
| It's like Cro-Cop was made of straight rocks. | ||
| Jesus Christ, really? | ||
| I've heard people say the same thing about Dan Henderson, but Cro-Cop, yeah. | ||
| Listen, I fought a roided-up fucking LeVar Johnson. | ||
| He was nowhere near as strong as Marco Cro-Cop. | ||
| Dan Henderson, a back rub. | ||
| You'll break your hand. | ||
| I bet. | ||
| You will. | ||
| Dan Henderson's made out of wood, dude. | ||
| We have the same masseuse, and she says it's just a beast. | ||
| Yeah, he's made out of wood. | ||
| Yeah, man, Cro Cop was so strong. | ||
| That's interesting, man. | ||
| Crazy, right? | ||
| Well, he developed a lot of really good takedown defense in Pride. | ||
| If you look at his first fights in Pride, like the first fight with Vandele, when they had those special rules, beautiful right hand. | ||
| Gonzaga's tightened up his boxing a lot, man. | ||
| Yeah, he has. | ||
| Well, you gotta remember, too, as Krokop, early in his career, he flew out Verdum before Verdum was really anything to work on his grappling. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That was his grappling code. | ||
| Oh, shit, man. | ||
| That right hand's fighting the home. | ||
| That's not good. | ||
| What do you think about this fight? | ||
| If you had to guess, before it started... | ||
| I never pick against Krokop, man. | ||
| He's one of my heroes. | ||
| But just objectively, analytically? | ||
| Objectively, Gonzaga's been fighting in the UFC at a lot longer, higher level. | ||
| Krokop really hasn't. | ||
| Gonzaga's looking very fast here, too. | ||
| He does. | ||
| That double right hand. | ||
| It just seems like Krokop, over his last few fights, he's just... | ||
| He doesn't pull the trigger. | ||
| He's coming off two wins against Ishii. | ||
| Obviously, that was in Japan. | ||
| Yeah, but Ishii's much smaller than him, too. | ||
| Ishii's shorter. | ||
| Ishii's every bit of 260 pounds. | ||
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What? | |
| Ishii's a judo gold medalist. | ||
| I train with Ishii. | ||
| Ishii's a fucking nightmare. | ||
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Is he 260? | |
| For real? | ||
| 260. I think he might, when he's in crazy shape, get down to 245. That's insane. | ||
| I had no idea. | ||
| I thought he was about 205. Fuck no. | ||
| Ishii is thick. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Super thick. | ||
| And for him to, you know, beat Ishii twice, I don't know how tough Ishii is, man. | ||
| He's a fucking monster. | ||
| Good kick to the body by Gonzaga. | ||
| Mirko's not pulling the trigger that much. | ||
| He's not. | ||
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He's super hesitant. | |
| He doesn't want to kick because he doesn't want to get taken down. | ||
| He knows if he gets taken down, he's in big trouble. | ||
| Some of the best takedown defense ever in the UFC. What'd they say? | ||
| He's fourth all-time heavyweight, I think? | ||
| I tried taking Gonzaga, and I tried double-hugging him. | ||
| My face hit the ground so fast. | ||
| He sprawled every bit of fucking, whatever it is, 260 on my little neck. | ||
| Cro Cop's a bit tentative, and Gonzaga keeps doing that lunging double right hand. | ||
| Why Cro Cop just looking at the clock? | ||
| That's a bad sign, man. | ||
| We're fucking 2.30 into it. | ||
| Well, maybe he had a plan of waiting into the round before he opened it up. | ||
| You don't think his corner could speak in Croatian? | ||
| Oh, Jesus, there's deep, deep, deep double. | ||
| Ooh, he's gonna pass. | ||
| I have to go hard. | ||
| Krokop's guard retention is pretty good. | ||
| It's not that bad. | ||
| He has very good defense, man, yeah. | ||
| It's not that bad, but this motherfucker's heavy. | ||
| Oh, oh, heavy and a world champ. | ||
| Yeah, world champ. | ||
| Legit. | ||
| Black belt. | ||
| Legit black belt. | ||
| If you can get Gonzaga down from his back, he's not such a threat, but on top, man, that's his game. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's got a lockdown in. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Strong control. | ||
| Can't get out of that fucking half card, huh? | ||
| Just got to be careful. | ||
| The explosion is still there. | ||
| This is trouble, man. | ||
| Crow Cop has always been, like, real explosive. | ||
| Crazy explosive. | ||
| I remember I had Crow Cop in guard, and he got his feet on my hip, and then just straight. | ||
| Couldn't get any worse. | ||
| Good luck getting out of there. | ||
| This is what he's worried about, too, is the elbows. | ||
| He was talking about this, that that was the big difference in the first fight, and he said that MMA probably should get rid of elbows, because it causes a lot of blood, and people don't want to see blood. | ||
| And focus less on the ground. | ||
| I thought that was crazy. | ||
| That's ridiculous. | ||
| That didn't make any sense at all. | ||
| Oh, look at that! | ||
| He'll look, son! | ||
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Ooh! | |
| That was nice. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| I'll show you how. | ||
| He's tapping. | ||
| He's tapping. | ||
| Not yet. | ||
| Damn, I thought he was ready to tap as he went down. | ||
| Me too. | ||
| It looked like he was tapping. | ||
| I'm not mad at this. | ||
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He scrambled this. | |
| Hangmaker in the guard. | ||
| I thought he was tapping. | ||
| I couldn't see his hand. | ||
| But it looked like he was reaching for it right away. | ||
| That was a bad position. | ||
| That was nasty. | ||
| That was a funky angle on the knee. | ||
| I want to see that again. | ||
| This Gonzaga using his grappling, he's going to be tough to beat, man. | ||
| I'm impressed with the Crow Cop recovering and getting back to full guard, if you ask me. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| He was mounted and now he's not mounting anymore. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And he almost got his leg break apart. | ||
| That's a sign that he could do. | ||
| He could recover. | ||
| He could bump him off the mount several times. | ||
| Krokop worked with Verdum and Dean Lister for years. | ||
| For a long, long time, man. | ||
| His defense is going to be solid. | ||
| Yeah, he's well-trained. | ||
| He's not easy to submit, man. | ||
| He's just not at the level where he can attack. | ||
| No. | ||
| I don't think he wants to be, either. | ||
| Well, against this guy. | ||
| He went for that heel hook, man. | ||
| That was pretty nasty. | ||
| He tapped Randleman, too. | ||
| Remember? | ||
| He got him in a guillotine. | ||
| Back in the dizzy. | ||
| I think when Crow Cop goes in the fight, that's the least of his concerns is submitting somebody. | ||
| That was the second fight after Randleman KO'd him. | ||
| Remember that shit? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| Randleman lunged in and cracked him. | ||
| Those pride days, man. | ||
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Woo! | |
| They were crazy. | ||
| I don't know if we'll ever see better fighting than then. | ||
| They were wild, man. | ||
| And you know what was one of the wild things? | ||
| He didn't know who the fuck was going to fight until about a week out. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| It's like, oh, sweet, man. | ||
| They were constantly at it. | ||
| It was like an Ice House show. | ||
| And just epic. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| They were constantly adding fighters. | ||
| I put together those Ice House shows like four days out. | ||
| How cool were those days where you had two giant, legit MMA organizations. | ||
| For the fans, it was the ultimate. | ||
| Went back and forth. | ||
| Pretty amazing. | ||
| UFC, one weekend. | ||
| Look at this knee. | ||
| Then Pride. | ||
| Steps over. | ||
| Oh, right there. | ||
| Oh, no, he wasn't looking to tap at all. | ||
| He was looking to get that arm under the leg. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Damn. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| It wasn't as threatening as I thought it was. | ||
| In the scramble, he looked pretty wild, but it wasn't as close as I thought it was. | ||
| I'll tell you what, if any guy has cardio issues between these two, it's Gonzaga. | ||
| He's always had some issues when he gets later in the rounds. | ||
| Do you think that's because of training at Team Link and not training at ATT or something like that? | ||
| Not getting pushed enough, probably. | ||
| Like, when you're always a bully, when you're on top, it's easy to go three rounds. | ||
| Try being on bottom. | ||
| Get in the worst-case scenario, you know? | ||
| Get in bad positions. | ||
| Right, and you've got to get used to moving in those positions. | ||
| Yeah, when you're tired. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And you're developing technique and you're developing endurance when you're moving in those positions when you're tired. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that's something that people kind of don't know until they get in there and do it. | ||
| And you're not going to panic. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Like, I'm sure Crowcrop was in Mount during camp. | ||
| He didn't panic down there. | ||
| He got out of it. | ||
| Got back to guard. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But if Gonzaga can get him to the ground like that again... | ||
| Yeah, he's in trouble. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's interesting, man. | ||
| You gotta... | ||
| He is one of those... | ||
| I mean, we're watching him in the main event right now, so obviously everything's going well. | ||
| But he's one of those guys you gotta wonder. | ||
| What if he did go to Jackson's? | ||
| What if he did? | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| Yeah, what if he did when he was... | ||
| With his skill set? | ||
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Really young. | |
| How good he is with stand-up? | ||
| Woo! | ||
| Ducked under that kit! | ||
| Beautiful! | ||
| Oh, good luck! | ||
| Oh, nice knee to the body! | ||
| You're not taking him down against the cage, son. | ||
| Oh, dude, nasty knee to the body. | ||
| You're not taking him down against the cage. | ||
| Oh, did that one go to the junk? | ||
| Yeah, hit him right in that Crow Cop dick. | ||
| Do you remember the one with Chet Congo? | ||
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What? | |
| That was attack against dicks. | ||
| It really was. | ||
| An assault on dicks. | ||
| Crow Cop against the cage is not happening. | ||
| You gotta take him down in the open, man. | ||
| That was our game plan God I just don't like Krokop looks like he's just gonna eat a right hand at any second. | ||
| He could. | ||
| That double right hand is what Gonzaga's... | ||
| Ooh! | ||
| Missed again. | ||
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Oof! | |
| You know what I liked about Gonzaga's leg attack was he was completely safe from being punched. | ||
| That was an angle. | ||
| He jumped on that foot, and that was a safe position. | ||
| If he would have cranked it a little better or had a better angle at it... | ||
| Because usually you see when guys go for leg locks or knee bars, they're usually eating punches. | ||
| It all depends on the angle. | ||
| Especially if you shoot up for a leg lock and the guy's still standing. | ||
| If he has strong base... | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Boom! | ||
| Oh! | ||
| Beautiful. | ||
| Goddamn. | ||
| Tested the flexibility. | ||
| That's an old-school move, the making you do the splits. | ||
| Yeah, super old-school. | ||
| Just lifted that leg up like it wasn't shit. | ||
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Right? | |
| Just fucking get out of here. | ||
| Get the fuck out of here. | ||
| He's so fucking strong, man. | ||
| He's a beast. | ||
| And in this top position... | ||
| Because Krokop, even laying under there, he's going to eat those fucking body shots. | ||
| He's going for that. | ||
| For sure go for the finish, though, Gonzaga. | ||
| Let's see what we can do here. | ||
| He's going to smush his face. | ||
| Five rounds, 25 minutes. | ||
| Good pressure on the mouth. | ||
| He can't breathe for shit right here. | ||
| Just wearing him out. | ||
| Yeah, he can't breathe for shit right here. | ||
| That's what Krokop does, man. | ||
| He hangs on, hangs on. | ||
| You go to posture up, he gets the fuck out. | ||
| But Gonzaga is fucking heavy. | ||
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Look at this! | |
| Beautiful, my friend! | ||
| Ooh, got a little punch in himself. | ||
| So that must have been a big part of his strategy. | ||
| He must have knew he would be here and would attack that leg to try to get a better position. | ||
| Not bad. | ||
| But still, Gonzaga, tough to shake. | ||
| He's going to be tough on top. | ||
| And he also knows that he's robbing Mirko of his vitality every time he smushes his face like that. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Covers his ale hole. | ||
| Plus, if you're a jiu-jitsu world champion, this is a walk in the park, being on top position here. | ||
| Yep, yep, yep. | ||
| And then he just gets the mount. | ||
| Look at that transition, man. | ||
| The exact same path to the mount. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| He's so slick with it, too, man. | ||
| See how there's no air there? | ||
| Grape finds the legs. | ||
| He was like, I don't even need to bother with side control. | ||
| I go right to the mount on this dude. | ||
| Do you see how there was no air in his transition? | ||
| Just so smooth. | ||
| Oh God, it's artistic. | ||
| Now, if you're a crow cop, you can only get mounted so many times. | ||
| Because he explodes to get out of it? | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| It's a lot of gas to burn, huh? | ||
| To get a 265 pound world champ off you is going to be tough. | ||
| And as Hoist Grace would always say, he's cooking them right now, you know? | ||
| By wearing a mount like this before he attempts to spin him. | ||
| Ooh, look at this mount! | ||
| I hate when guys on the bottom of a mount try to punch. | ||
| Dude, look at this mount. | ||
| Look at this goddamn mount. | ||
| Well, the striker, though, dude, they feel like any time they have a chance to pop your chin. | ||
| A dude knocked a guy out from the mount before in Japan. | ||
| Knocked him out cold. | ||
| Well, how about Uriah Hall? | ||
| For sure the exception. | ||
| Knocked a dude out from his guard. | ||
| Remember that? | ||
| On the show? | ||
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Who? | |
| Look at this! | ||
| Gonzaga! | ||
| Trying to set up the... | ||
| Was he setting up an armbar? | ||
| Looks like an armbar, yeah. | ||
| He wanted an armbar. | ||
| It's a good move. | ||
| He's a beast, dude. | ||
| He is a beast. | ||
| Did Gonzaga shave his back? | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| He's looking for the... | ||
| No, it's still there. | ||
| Looking for the Americana. | ||
| Oh, a little blood on Gonzaga's head. | ||
| Where's that coming from? | ||
| Boom! | ||
| Oh, Jesus. | ||
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Boom! | |
| Great elbow. | ||
| You know, it's interesting that Krokop was always hot open. | ||
| It's interesting that he's setting up a triangle. | ||
| Krokop was talking about how he didn't like the cuts because he didn't like the blood from the elbows. | ||
| And this is what's fucking him up. | ||
| That's what's getting him. | ||
| Boom, boom. | ||
| Transition. | ||
| Put control by Gonzaga. | ||
| Look at the fucking ferocious control. | ||
| Damn, man. | ||
| That's some ferocious control. | ||
| That is exactly what Crow Cop was saying that he thinks needs to change about MMA in Gonzaga. | ||
| Grappling and the elbows. | ||
| Gonzaga just said, oh, I know what you don't like. | ||
| Fuck, man. | ||
| That's a bad cut. | ||
| But the only type of person that says that about grappling and elbows is the type of person that doesn't want to get that happen to them. | ||
| As far as him being able to do it to someone, of course he would want to be able to do it. | ||
| If that was his game, he'd be all about it. | ||
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Damn. | |
| That'd be cool if that made him. | ||
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Beautiful. | |
| Didn't he mount somebody before and fuck him up from the mount? | ||
| Crow Cop? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Pat Berry. | ||
| Pat Berry mounted and his back, right? | ||
| And then he choked Pat Berry with one arm. | ||
| He kicked out the leg. | ||
| Did he kick out the right leg? | ||
| Or he kicked out the left leg? | ||
| He tripped him. | ||
| He picked it up and then tripped out the left leg. | ||
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Nice. | |
| Look at this. | ||
| Ferocious ground and pound. | ||
| Just nasty control. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
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Boom! | |
| That was the one that cut him open. | ||
| Dude, the control Gonzaga had. | ||
| Once he gets on top, man, that's nasty control. | ||
| If Krokop were to lose this fight, do you think he fights again in the UFC? That's a good question. | ||
| I mean, they love him. | ||
| He's still a star. | ||
| He's still a legend. | ||
| He's still, you know, like one of the most important guys in the history of MMA. Ever. | ||
| Ever. | ||
| He's my favorite fighter of all time. | ||
| At what point does the UFC say, you know what, we're good? | ||
| Well, he definitely is not going to fight Gonzaga next unless he beats him. | ||
| I mean, if he KOs him right here, we stop talking. | ||
| If he fucking head kicks Gonzaga right here, we stop talking. | ||
| He's a great guy for the UFC to open new markets in Europe, right? | ||
| You want to have a UFC in the Ukraine or something? | ||
| Boom! | ||
| Open up a headliner with Krokop. | ||
| He's still got a few fights left in him. | ||
| Well, if he wants to fight again in Croatia, even if he's not the main event, they'll still sell the motherfucker out. | ||
| Sell out. | ||
| He's a national hero. | ||
| He's a goddamn national hero over there. | ||
| And, like we said, undeniable, one of the legends of the game. | ||
| Gonzaga with a big takedown. | ||
| Defense. | ||
| Kroka, perhaps, a little confidence. | ||
| He's just looking to jab, though. | ||
| Not too many left hands. | ||
| No power shots, man. | ||
| Gotta see him open up with that kick, maybe even to the body. | ||
| Gonzaga gets right hand happy though. | ||
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Gonzaga's slowing down. | |
| Yeah, it's a tough third round, man. | ||
| He put a lot of pressure on him. | ||
| Mount. | ||
| Yeah, held him down, beat on him, but he definitely took way less damage. | ||
| So, if he's tired right here. | ||
| Dude, if he's tired, I could see Crow Cop winning this. | ||
| You never know. | ||
| You never know. | ||
| With three minutes to go, you never know. | ||
| Bro, three minutes to go and you got two more rounds, bro. | ||
| You gotta remember it's five rounds. | ||
| Oh, that's right. | ||
| I just got so excited. | ||
| And he's failed in his last two takedown attempts. | ||
| Haven't worked. | ||
| I'm telling you, man, against the cage, save your fucking energy. | ||
| Don't do it. | ||
| This is all Cro-Cop. | ||
| This is his game, man. | ||
| He fucked me up against the cage. | ||
| Knee to the body, Bogonzaga. | ||
| While he had his back on the cage? | ||
| Oh, look at this. | ||
| Four takedown attempts. | ||
| Fail. | ||
| Dude, Cro-Cop's looking way better. | ||
| He's looking way better. | ||
| That was a good scramble right there. | ||
| Oh, good left hand by Krokop. | ||
| Oh, another one. | ||
| Krokop's elbows. | ||
| Did he rock him? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Gonzaga's hurt. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| Uppercut. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| Come on, Krokop. | ||
| Oh, I think he got him, son. | ||
| What's wrong with Gonzaga? | ||
| He's getting hit, dude. | ||
| Oh, he got hit again. | ||
| He shouldn't have won his card. | ||
| He should have stood over him like a horse dance and punched him. | ||
| He shouldn't have got on his knees. | ||
| Especially with a jiu-jitsu guy like this. | ||
| He's gonna fucking chill here now, man. | ||
| He's got a posture. | ||
| Holy shit, what a turnaround. | ||
| Great turnaround. | ||
| What a goddamn turnaround. | ||
| Even if this was only a three-rounder with two minutes to go, you could still finish him here. | ||
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Oh, shit! | |
| Oh, big elbow! | ||
| I'm not mad at those elbows to the ground. | ||
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Oh! | |
| Shit! | ||
| And you gotta think, this is a real striker throwing from tight quarters. | ||
| He might not be able to use his body, but guaranteed, he generates way more power than the average person in his positions. | ||
| Inaccuracy. | ||
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Oh! | |
| Those are some... | ||
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Those are hard! | |
| Oh! | ||
| Oh, shit! | ||
| Oh, shit! | ||
| Oh, my goodness! | ||
| Oh, what a goddamn turnaround! | ||
| Holy shit! | ||
| Those are ferocious! | ||
| Gonzaga's face is fucked up! | ||
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That's it! | |
| That's it! | ||
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Oh! | |
| Mirko Krokop is back! | ||
| We got a classic on our hands. | ||
| Dude, holy shit. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| What a destruction. | ||
| That was some of the best elbows from the guard in MMA ever. | ||
| Ever. | ||
| Ever. | ||
| That's where he should be. | ||
| He should be taking dudes down and staying in their guard. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| That's where the fire comes. | ||
| How ironic is it that grappling and elbows are what won him to fight? | ||
| That's what he's complaining about. | ||
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What? | |
| That's so crazy! | ||
| And we were just talking about this! | ||
| Would you put any money off if you said, hey, Crow Cop's gonna take... | ||
| He's gonna get Gonzaga's guard and elbow the shit out of TKL. And it started with that elbow standing. | ||
| Yes, look at that. | ||
| The two elbows. | ||
| Short elbow and tight. | ||
| Look, Gonzaga's hurt right there just trying to hang on. | ||
| Watch this. | ||
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Boom! | |
| Oh, that was ferocious. | ||
| Another one. | ||
| Oh, dude. | ||
| Mirko can throw some goddamn elbows. | ||
| Dude, he shattered my nose like that. | ||
| Boom! | ||
| Oh my god, look at this. | ||
| Hammer! | ||
| Boom! | ||
| What a fucking turnaround! | ||
| We gotta see some of those elbows from the guard. | ||
| Dude, Mirko Krokop has heart. | ||
| Fuck. | ||
| What heart that guy has. | ||
| Gonzaga's still down. | ||
| His face pretty jacked up. | ||
| That's his new spot. | ||
| His new spot is in the guard. | ||
| What fucking heart. | ||
| To come back from that? | ||
| What a great win for Mirko, man. | ||
| Look at how the sport has evolved. | ||
| The sport has evolved. | ||
| The best place for the best striker ever to be is in the guard throwing those strikes. | ||
| In the guard throwing those goddamn strikes. | ||
| That's where he needs to be. | ||
| But when you think about it, on the ground, he can generate power in real short areas. | ||
| He evolved into Mark Coleman. | ||
| It all comes back to Mark Coleman, the wrestler. | ||
| It all comes back to him. | ||
| Wow, that was incredible. | ||
| They showed Gonzaga. | ||
| He's stumbling in the back. | ||
| He's still not right, man. | ||
| That was incredible. | ||
| This is the only guy I would never instruct to pass the guard. | ||
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Don't pass! | |
| Stay in the guard! | ||
| Jump in the guard! | ||
| Damn, look at Gabriel. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| That's a scar you're going to wear for life. | ||
| What a big victory for Krokop. | ||
| What a big victory. | ||
| Well, now they're one and one. | ||
| Do they do it again? | ||
| The trilogy? | ||
| They might. | ||
| They very well might. | ||
| They very well might. | ||
| That's three in a row for Gonzaga. | ||
| Does he get cut? | ||
| What does he say? | ||
| Hold on. | ||
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Great suit Hardy. | |
| What is that? | ||
| What? | ||
| What? | ||
| There's no translator? | ||
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Two rounds. | |
| Just stay calm and... | ||
| We believe, really we believe That third round of 40 Will be the last one Wow Those, oh look at that nice uppercut too Amazing. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
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Boom! | |
| Look at this. | ||
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Boom! | |
| Ferocious. | ||
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Legend, son. | |
| Wow. | ||
| He is such a bad motherfucker. | ||
| the far ground. | ||
| What if he just goes on a tear on everyone who beat him? | ||
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What comes next? | |
| The first thing I will do is take a shower, and we are going home for Croatia in about an hour and a half. | ||
| We have our own transport, not plane. | ||
| Excellent. | ||
| I've got a gym might train the week. | ||
| Air Force One, Croatia's guy. | ||
| Hell yeah. | ||
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Maybe one or two weeks, I will take a rest and then train again. | |
| One or two weeks, I'll take a rest and train again. | ||
| Monster. | ||
| Now, if anybody had ever told him to retire after his losses, you know, he would have missed out on this glory, right? | ||
| Right? | ||
| That's why he can't retire, Joe. | ||
| But what do you think is the balance between a guy like this, who is just going to press on and still, at times like tonight, be spectacularly successful, or a guy like Jamie Varner, who says, you know what, I think it's over. | ||
| But a guy like Crow Cop, what's left for him to do? | ||
| That's true. | ||
| What's left? | ||
| Well, he obviously loves this as much as anything in life. | ||
| And this moment right now is going to be one of the greatest moments that he'll ever remember. | ||
| And he overcame some serious adversity. | ||
| He overcame some serious adversity. | ||
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He might retire. | |
| Look at that, son. | ||
| Best ever. | ||
| Most finishes in UFC pride, WEC, and Strikeforce ever. | ||
| 22. Vanderlei, right on his tail. | ||
| Anderson behind that Shogun back in the day 16 Wow, that's nuts man. | ||
| All pride guys. | ||
| That's nuts What a legend that guy is you go back to his highlight reel and pride though None better. | ||
| No one had a better highlight reel of finishes that kicked to the body on Heath Haring. | ||
| We showed it on this podcast before. | ||
| But it was like he went halfway into his body with that round kick. | ||
| He's insane, man. | ||
| You think about the guys he's beat, especially in the prime. | ||
| He beat Josh Barnett twice. | ||
| He beat Mark Hunt. | ||
| He beat Wanderley. | ||
| He lost to Fedor. | ||
| Still, man. | ||
| Yeah, Fado was the guy. | ||
| Decision. | ||
| He lost to Minotauro, but Minotauro had the best chin in the world at the time. | ||
| And Krokop hit him with everything but the kitchen sink and the head kicked him at the end of the first round. | ||
| And when the round ended, Noguera thought for a second that they had stopped the fight. | ||
| He's like, don't stop the fight! | ||
| They're like, no, it's the end of the round. | ||
| He's like, okay, cool. | ||
| Went out in the second round, took him down and armbarred him. | ||
| I think those were the golden years of MMA. I don't think we'll ever get it back. | ||
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Do you think so? | |
| Well, I don't know about that. | ||
| Honestly, I think everybody always feels like the time that was passed was the great time. | ||
| But I think the time we're looking at right now, with the exception of a few divisions, is so much higher level than we've ever seen before. | ||
| I think it's higher level, but it's just not the same. | ||
| I think it's too much. | ||
| I think it's too saturated. | ||
| I think it's like wine, man. | ||
| Anytime there's new shit, the old shit always looks better. | ||
| It's with music, with everything. | ||
| You could say, oh, I like early Iron Maiden or early Motley Crue. | ||
| I don't like the new album, which would be 1988. That would be new. | ||
| But now, 20 years later, that new album that came out in 1988, that's an old album and that's a classic now. | ||
| And it wasn't classic back then. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| What Joe's saying is right now, we're going to look back in 20 years at this point and say, Yeah, I disagree. | ||
| Look at all these big matches. | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| Because now, if you want to be a fighter, you can do it. | ||
| There's a way to do it. | ||
| When they were fighting, it was like, what the fuck? | ||
| How the fuck do we make this happen? | ||
| And these are legends. | ||
| Now you have some... | ||
| Now, you know, I hate to be shitty, but you have some kids coming off the Ultimate Fighter or some girls who are 3-0 and they're on the big stage. | ||
| These guys earned their fucking right. | ||
| This rock and roll they play. | ||
| This rock and roll they play these kids these days. | ||
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It's not like Boston or like Black Sabbath. | |
| No, you know what I'll say? | ||
| Time makes legends. | ||
| Time, right now. | ||
| I disagree. | ||
| You look at the level of experience and competition in those Pride tournaments, it's a higher level than we've ever been at. | ||
| I think the level is way higher now. | ||
| I think back then you had Three guys that could strike really good. | ||
| And remember, BJ was the only guy that could box in the lightweight division. | ||
| Now everybody in the prelims, they're all good strikers now. | ||
| It's like the level's crazy. | ||
| You have more well-rounded guys. | ||
| Yeah, like it used to be that only a couple guys had professional footwork. | ||
| But now anybody in the prelims, you can't get into the UFC unless you have professional footwork nowadays. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, you can't be half-assed. | ||
| And now everyone is also incorporating a lot of that, what they call Neo footwork, that Dominic Cruz, TJ Dillashaw. | ||
| That's the next level stuff. | ||
| So hyper-evolved these days. | ||
| That's next level stuff. | ||
| But I see what you're saying. | ||
| It's like Led Zeppelin. | ||
| Pride is like Led Zeppelin and all that shit. | ||
| Yeah, but you know what? | ||
| See, Led Zeppelin, outside of the plagiarism accusations that are pretty significant. | ||
| Just put that all aside. | ||
| Just look at the finished product. | ||
| Goddamn, I don't think there's anybody today that can fuck with him. | ||
| They had some goddamn songs that were just so insanely good. | ||
| So insanely good. | ||
| Have you heard Imagine Dragons? | ||
| There's different. | ||
| I mean, everybody's different. | ||
| I don't know what that is. | ||
| There's different, and there's equal. | ||
| You know, there's a lot of bands that I think are on that level. | ||
| But I just, there's like, Hold Outta Love, I don't think there's a song that's ever been better. | ||
| There's different songs, there's awesome songs that are equally awesome, but there's none better. | ||
| That's just like one of the all-time greats. | ||
| It's up there with Voodoo Child, with Hendrix to me. | ||
| Think of when Krokop was fighting Vanderlei, Mark Hunt, fucking Josh Barnett. | ||
| What the fuck? | ||
| Think about these guys. | ||
| He fought Vanderlei and then Josh Barnett in the same night. | ||
| Same night. | ||
| Think how much weight he gave up to Mark Hunt. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What the fuck? | ||
| And these are in their prime. | ||
| These are some of the best that have ever done it. | ||
| And he's beating them. | ||
| Same night. | ||
| How good was goddamn Fedor back then? | ||
| Because he walked down Krokop. | ||
| That was essentially a kickboxing pout. | ||
| When Krokop was at his very best, he hit him too, man. | ||
| He fucked his nose up. | ||
| He hit him with some hard shots. | ||
| And Fedor kept walking him down. | ||
| Fedor was chasing him down the whole fight. | ||
| He kept him on the heel. | ||
| Kept him on his back foot all the time. | ||
| It's tough, man. | ||
| Kept him backing up. | ||
| Really interesting, man. | ||
| That's how goddamn good Fedor was in his prime. | ||
| When he was in his prime. | ||
| The game just changes. | ||
| It's like basketball. | ||
| You guys aren't huge basketball fans. | ||
| You look at basketball like LeBron. | ||
| The games change where it's kind of like a foo-foo league now. | ||
| Well, when Michael Jordan and the Bulls were there, it was a different time, man. | ||
| Basketball was better. | ||
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Really? | |
| It's never going to be as good as that. | ||
| Never. | ||
| How can you say that, though? | ||
| Athletes are getting better all the time. | ||
| They're getting better, but the game's changed because it's all about offense. | ||
| So, really, no one plays defense, really, anymore. | ||
| It's all about the dunk and stuff like that. | ||
| But no one's preventing them from, like... | ||
| They said that 20 years ago, too. | ||
| They're saying the exact same thing 20 years ago. | ||
| Maybe I'm old school. | ||
| Are you old school? | ||
| I'm sorry, I love Michael Jordan and a prime Mirko Crow Cop. | ||
| Time makes legends. | ||
| Over time, we're going to look back at LeBron and say the same thing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He might not ever win as many championships as Michael Jordan, but already right now you gotta put him in the same class as Michael Jordan. | ||
| LeBron, come on. | ||
| You gotta put him in the same class. | ||
| At a guy like Mighty Mouse, there's never been a dude like Mighty Mouse. | ||
| People don't appreciate it because he weighs 125 pounds. | ||
| True. | ||
| But goddamn Mighty Mouse is good. | ||
| He's so fucking good. | ||
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He's so good. | |
| He's so fucking good. | ||
| No one cares. | ||
| It's hard because he's fighting little dudes and they're all 125 pounds and people don't appreciate it just from the human being perspective. | ||
| Because first of all, they don't have to fight gravity as hard. | ||
| They can move faster. | ||
| A guy like you... | ||
| If there was a guy like you that could move like Mighty Mouse, they would have sports scientists come in and try to figure out what the fuck you're doing. | ||
| You know, if you were doing something unusual with your training methods, everyone would start doing it. | ||
| If you could move like Mighty Mouse and you were heavyweight, everybody would do what you were doing. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| Kenny Florian told me that DC was going out one night, and this was in Vegas, and he sees Mighty Mouse talking to the bouncer, like, bro, let me in. | ||
| DC's like, my man, this is the world champion of the UFC. And the guy's like, really? | ||
| Yes! | ||
| You know, he got him in. | ||
| That's fucking Mighty Mouse, man. | ||
| It's insane. | ||
| It's just those lighter weight classes. | ||
| Well, a lot of people don't know. | ||
| It's unfortunate. | ||
| But if you look at it from the technique perspective, I always say that if you want to emulate somebody, he's the dude. | ||
| He does everything perfect. | ||
| If you're around the game, you appreciate it. | ||
| If you're a casual fan, you don't give a fuck about the little guys. | ||
| Well, he knocked out Benavidez, which, in my opinion, was unbelievable. | ||
| Nobody ever did that before. | ||
| Benavidez is a monster. | ||
| He's a stud. | ||
| And he cracked him with one punch. | ||
| You need a heel. | ||
| You need someone that's going to come around, like another Conor McGregor at 125. It's all about personalities. | ||
| Aldo, don't get me wrong. | ||
| Aldo hasn't lasted nine years. | ||
| He's a fucking monster. | ||
| He's never been bigger now that he's gonna fight Conor. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| It's the best thing that ever happened to Aldo is Conor. | ||
| It's hard though to deal with the disrespect and all the stuff that he does to him. | ||
| I think it's gonna be trouble. | ||
| I think it's gonna be trouble. | ||
| I think you're gonna get a fucking nasty Aldo, man. | ||
| Oh, you're definitely gonna get a nasty Aldo. | ||
| The question is he's gonna have the stamina to do that for more than one or two rounds. | ||
| Look at Chad Mendes' fight. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| But Aldo, well, he hurt Mendez at the end of, was it the end of the first when he tagged him? | ||
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The second. | |
| The bell? | ||
| The second. | ||
| Was it the second? | ||
| I think it was the second, yeah. | ||
| And Mendez tagged him. | ||
| But then into the third, fourth, and fifth rounds... | ||
| He wound up winning a decision, and he wound up beating Mendez, but that was probably the best anybody had looked against Aldo. | ||
| It was the first time anybody ever cracked Aldo. | ||
| You know who good Mendez is? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's very good. | ||
| Listen, I love Conor. | ||
| Conor's my man, but Conor Mendez isn't a good fight for Conor. | ||
| Well, it's interesting because he's such a fucking powerful wrestler. | ||
| He's so goddamn fast. | ||
| That's the one thing we haven't seen, is the powerful wrestler. | ||
| But then you look at what he did to Llamas, he puts dudes away with his hands. | ||
| He's fast as fuck, dude. | ||
| There's no one more powerful than Mendez. | ||
| He's such a stud, like such a stud athlete. | ||
| Mendes is the biggest freak in the gym, and to see Aldo take his best and still win, everyone was like, Jesus, man. | ||
| Yeah, Jesus. | ||
| Well, McGregor's even bigger than him. | ||
| He's longer. | ||
| Big boy. | ||
| And he throws some nasty left hands, man. | ||
| I agree. | ||
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Nasty left hands. | |
| He puts a lot of weight behind it. | ||
| And if he can get one off, and if he can really impose that, like, his psychological game is fucking strong. | ||
| He believes in himself. | ||
| Like, Muhammad Ali, Sonny Liston strong. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| It's strong in a weird way. | ||
| Like, you see no cracks in it. | ||
| He doesn't ever back off. | ||
| He doesn't ever say anything stupid. | ||
| I'm rooting for Connor. | ||
| You know, he doesn't ever say, I'm gonna beat you into a living death. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Remember that? | ||
| Ken Shamrock and Tito Ortiz. | ||
| It's like, damn, bro. | ||
| You're like, come on, man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He never falters with his shit-talking game. | ||
| It's so powerful, it makes you deny who you are. | ||
| I think it's better for the sport if Conor wins. | ||
| I don't know about all that. | ||
| I don't know about all that. | ||
| I do. | ||
| I don't. | ||
| I think if Conor loses, maybe it's good for the sport. | ||
| Oh, I disagree. | ||
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Why? | |
| We need that fucking pink elephant in the room. | ||
| But what if it's a good fight? | ||
| What if it's a wild, good fight? | ||
| Okay, then what do you do with Conor? | ||
| Let's say he loses. | ||
| What do you do with him? | ||
| Rematch! | ||
| Or everybody else. | ||
| Okay, then you rematch. | ||
| You're highlighting the rest of the division. | ||
| Think about this division right now. | ||
| You've got Frankie Edgar who's about to fight Uriah Famer. | ||
| Terrible matchup for Conor. | ||
| Either one of those guys. | ||
| Either one, because they can wrestle their fucking ass off. | ||
| Uriah Faber would be interesting. | ||
| Because we really haven't seen him at 145 in a few years. | ||
| True. | ||
| He might be better at 145. He might be better with not cutting such an extreme amount of weight. | ||
| I mean, there's a reason why he's taking this fight. | ||
| Yeah, I agree. | ||
| I don't think that's an excursion into 145. We didn't expect that. | ||
| Nobody expected that. | ||
| He's in the hunt at 135 for the title. | ||
| But he doesn't want to fight his boy TJ. It's very interesting. | ||
| Very interesting. | ||
| And Conor's big enough where he can do super fights against Pettis. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Not Dos Anjos, but... | ||
| And then, you know, there's a lot of guys at 155 that would love to fight him. | ||
| There's a lot of guys at 155. The entire UFC wants to fight Conor. | ||
| What he brings to the table, all of them want to fight him. | ||
| Well, if he wins... | ||
| I just think his best matchup, which this is fucking insane to say, but just style-wise, all those are the best matchup in the top five for him. | ||
| After that, man, it's trouble, because we're talking about grapplers. | ||
| Mm-hmm. | ||
| Well, it's going to be interesting to see if he can hang with Aldo standing. | ||
| I mean, he clipped Poirier early in the fight. | ||
| He did hurt him, no doubt about it, but we didn't get to see an exchange. | ||
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No. | |
| You know one thing about Conor? | ||
| That I feel that grapplers... | ||
| There's a really really good sign and I saw it firsthand that he has the mentality to get really really good at jiu-jitsu And I'll tell you why I'm teaching class one fucking day maybe six months ago, maybe eight months ago and I'm looking over at the bag in the corner. | ||
| Someone's punching a bag in the corner, and I'm teaching class And I look over like it's that fucking Conor McGregor hitting the bag in my gym. | ||
| Yeah, so I So, I walk over, and I'm like, hey, dude, the first time I ever met him. | ||
| I said, hey, dude, what's up? | ||
| What the fuck are you doing here? | ||
| He goes, oh, mate. | ||
| You know, mate. | ||
| That don't say mate, right? | ||
| No, it's Australia or England. | ||
| Okay, well, I can't do an Irish accent, but I can't do any accents, but he... | ||
| We said, hey, what's up, you know? | ||
| I told him I'm a fan and all that shit. | ||
| And I said, hey, I'm just teaching, you know? | ||
| And he goes, okay, I just needed a bag to hit. | ||
| I was down the street at a hotel doing UFC shit. | ||
| So, I go back to class. | ||
| Within three minutes, he shows up on the mat and just says, we're your best guys. | ||
| And I said, oh, okay. | ||
| So I hooked him up with my best guys, and he just kept wanting to go with all my best guys. | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| He's a great guy, too, man. | ||
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He's a great guy. | |
| No UFC guys do that. | ||
| No UFC guys do that. | ||
| There's a lot of hardcore grapplers, and that's what they do. | ||
| They go from gym to gym and try to get different looks. | ||
| Guys are looking for the best competition, just looking for wars. | ||
| Looking for different style matchups, because if you're training with the same guy all the time, that's not good. | ||
| There's 200 styles out there and you're training with three styles every day, you're training with two styles every day, four styles. | ||
| You need big, giant classes where there's so many different styles. | ||
| So you see so many looks. | ||
| There's so many in grappling. | ||
| It's endless. | ||
| Conor's a brown belt. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So he showed up and you know what? | ||
| That showed me that he has the mentality to, he's not afraid to grapple and train and work with whoever on the ground to improve his grappling. | ||
| That's huge. | ||
| So from that point I thought, you know what, that's why he's good. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| I'm a Conor fan. | ||
| He's looking to evolve. | ||
| Yeah, I'm a Conor fan as well. | ||
| I think he's definitely an extraordinary human being. | ||
| I've never had a famous UFC fighter ever do that. | ||
| A lot of them come by and say hi. | ||
| I haven't been in there yet. | ||
| They stand by on the cage and they look in. | ||
| And a couple have trained, but when it came down to rolling, they didn't want to roll. | ||
| Famous UFC fighters generally... | ||
| I understand where they're coming from. | ||
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They're famous. | |
| It's ego, man. | ||
| They train in some gym where they don't know the guys and, you know, there's gonna be cameras out and maybe he gets tapped out by a blue belt and then someone goes on the internet and goes, I just tapped out fucking da-da-da from the UFC. Guys in the UFC, they don't want that shit. | ||
| They don't want to get hurt, though, either. | ||
| Because there's gyms I've been to where I'll go with tough guys like You know, some black belts, some brown belts, and then there are studs in the corner waiting for me to get tired. | ||
| It's like, oh, last round, let's go, and then you end up getting hurt. | ||
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Yeah, that's a weird thing that people do when they sit back. | |
| I don't think they're worried about getting hurt, unless they have a fight coming. | ||
| Unless they have a fight coming, like, next week or two weeks, then you don't grapple hard because you don't want to get hurt. | ||
| But I think they don't want to get tapped. | ||
| Yeah, that's true, too. | ||
| I think it's both. | ||
| I think it's ego, and they don't want to get hurt either. | ||
| But it is gross when you see dudes sitting out and waiting for you to get tired. | ||
| I know. | ||
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I'm like, come on, man. | |
| And then they ask you to roll. | ||
| Like, you just sat out for, like, two rounds. | ||
| What are we doing, man? | ||
| You didn't even roll. | ||
| Are you trying to cheat? | ||
| Are you cheating? | ||
| You're trying to catch someone who just ran a marathon and ask them to race? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's weird, man. | ||
| If there's guys that all they do is leg locks. | ||
| I can see a guy saying, hey, I don't want to get my legs hurt. | ||
| People believe that. | ||
| People believe that if you go against a guy that's going to attack your legs, you're going to get hurt. | ||
| I believe that shit. | ||
| I don't believe it anymore, but I can understand that. | ||
| Guys, there's dudes that are leg lock assassins. | ||
| There's also certain dudes who hurt dudes. | ||
| We know that. | ||
| That's their thing. | ||
| They don't give a fuck. | ||
| Well, that's the Toquino thing. | ||
| That's the Paul Harris thing. | ||
| They talk about that even in the gym. | ||
| They had a problem with him. | ||
| Like, more than one gym. | ||
| He can only train with his brother. | ||
| What? | ||
| He can only really train with his brother, because if he goes with anyone else, he just doesn't know how to turn it off. | ||
| He's fucking ripping limbs off. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| Well, I saw him roll with Mayhem. | ||
| He rolled with Mayhem, and Mayhem tapped, and he released. | ||
| But there's a video of it. | ||
| Where'd you see that? | ||
| There's a video of it online. | ||
| Was that a while ago? | ||
| It was in Brazil, back in the day. | ||
| He got him in a heel hook? | ||
| I think he got his back. | ||
| If I remember. | ||
| Really? | ||
| I forget. | ||
| Maybe an arm bar? | ||
| I forget. | ||
| It wasn't a heel hook, though. | ||
| He got him in a few things. | ||
| I think it's a combination of both, though, Eddie. | ||
| Ego, 100%. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| If there's a fight coming, 100%, you don't want to get hurt. | ||
| There's all this money, for sure. | ||
| But they're worried about being embarrassed. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's why some guys never get good. | ||
| But not Connor. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| That's why I bring up Connor. | ||
| That's rare. | ||
| That's rare. | ||
| Conor's mentality, man, I'm telling you that dude is special, man. | ||
| Whether he wins this fight or not, that kid's gonna go a long ways in life. | ||
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Do you know what's interesting? | |
| He's just a good dude. | ||
| He almost retired two years ago. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Isn't that crazy? | ||
| Why? | ||
| He had a friend that couldn't fight anymore. | ||
| He had a friend apparently had been injured so much in fighting that he was done. | ||
| And, you know, he was thinking, like, what am I doing? | ||
| I think I'm done. | ||
| And he actually didn't show up for his boxing classes. | ||
| He was teaching a boxing class and didn't show up for like six days or something like that. | ||
| And then finally his manager calls him up. | ||
| Two weeks. | ||
| His manager calls him up and his manager says, hey, do you want to fight in the UFC? And he's like, oh shit, here we go. | ||
| And he just decided to go full on into it. | ||
| Just went full on into it. | ||
| He's really into not sparring with striking. | ||
| He's really into that. | ||
| Working on technique more than anything. | ||
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Very smart. | |
| Super smart. | ||
| Very into not sparring. | ||
| Jamie Varner was saying. | ||
| Very into not sparring and doing damage. | ||
| You know, Mitrione does the same thing too. | ||
| When Mitrione first told me that, I was like, because Mitrione's a weird, Mitrione's very smart, but he's a weird dude. | ||
| He's different. | ||
| He goes, I don't spar, man. | ||
| I just kind of, I get to the close and I bring it back. | ||
| He goes, you know, we'll spar. | ||
| You can hit me, but I'm not going to hit you. | ||
| Why? | ||
| He doesn't want to do it. | ||
| That's weird. | ||
| But your own doesn't spar full go. | ||
| It's working. | ||
| He's on a tear, man. | ||
| It's obviously working. | ||
| Well, I think there's a lot of those Thai guys do that. | ||
| That's a big thing in Muay Thai. | ||
| Like, John Wayne Parr was talking about that when he did the podcast, that they play all the time. | ||
| Dwayne! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Dwayne's the same way, man. | ||
| Well, Dwayne has a whole system worked out. | ||
| Dwayne is a fascinating cat. | ||
| He has a whole system worked out as far as getting people comfortable with striking and where he takes you into it step by step. | ||
| I would love to have him explain it. | ||
| I don't know, actually, if he'd be willing to. | ||
| Maybe it's his trade secret. | ||
| He has a whole belt system, too. | ||
| He has a whole belt system. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Very smart dude when it comes to striking. | ||
| I was really really impressed when I saw him working with TJ. Yeah, I was really impressed Hell yeah, I was like wow like Dwayne bang Ludwig. | ||
| It's on some next-level shit. | ||
| You know the striking coaching the thing is with striking is the ego thing too, but we see it in the NFL the Guys, especially in college too, at these big colleges in the NFL, guys used to hit four times a week. | ||
| Kill each other four times a week. | ||
| And then some coaches are like, well, this isn't smart. | ||
| The guys aren't getting to the game. | ||
| They look like shit in the game. | ||
| So then schools like Michigan and Ohio State, they pulled it back. | ||
| And then they were successful. | ||
| Then everyone followed them. | ||
| Well, now we see it in the UFC where, listen, you don't get to the UFC without being tough. | ||
| You're tough, man. | ||
| There's no need to do these gym battles and take it out of you. | ||
| That's exactly what Jamie Varner was saying. | ||
| Those are his exact words. | ||
| And I haven't listened to a word Jamie Varner says. | ||
| I love Jamie Varner. | ||
| He's a great guy, but I haven't listened to it. | ||
| I believe you. | ||
| But you don't need to do it in the gym, man. | ||
| Yeah, there needs to be some sort of protocol established for training, like a real consensus protocol when it comes to contact. | ||
| Like how much contact should you have? | ||
| Or even mapping out a camp. | ||
| What if there's a protocol for an eight-week camp you're going to spar in these days, you're going to do this, and it's just the way it should be, and it's down to a T. What if someone figured that out? | ||
| How dope would that be? | ||
| The way your nutritionist has figured out your diet. | ||
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Yes. | |
| Have that for your whole system. | ||
| Everything you do. | ||
| Isn't that what they do? | ||
| Some places. | ||
| Well, not really. | ||
| Some places, team takedown. | ||
| I guarantee you Mark Lehman does shit like that. | ||
| Mark Lehman does that, and it works for Johnny Hendrix. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, he knows Johnny Hendrix like that. | ||
| He knows Johnny very well. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't know what that means. | ||
| Well, all it would take is... | ||
| All it would take... | ||
| Finger in somebody. | ||
| Hey, Brendan, all it would take is figuring out, okay, where are you going to put your wrestling during the week? | ||
| Where are you going to put your striking? | ||
| Everyone does that. | ||
| Everyone does that. | ||
| What else are you talking about? | ||
| But where is it overtraining? | ||
| When should you spar? | ||
| Yeah, include that, too. | ||
| Sparring day, wrestle this day. | ||
| I'm with you, but to where it's the most efficient. | ||
| Because now I was sparring when I got ready for Trash Brown. | ||
| I was sparring fucking hard twice a week at Black House. | ||
| Fucking hard, man. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Do you think that's a bad idea? | ||
| Bad idea. | ||
| Bad idea. | ||
| You said this also about your Ben Rothwell fight, sparring with Carwin. | ||
| I got knocked out before the Ben Rothwell fight by Carwin. | ||
| Left hook. | ||
| How far out? | ||
| Before I fought in O'Gara, Carwin... | ||
| Rocked me so bad two weeks before. | ||
| In front of everyone. | ||
| And then we're on the ground. | ||
| Let me tell the story. | ||
| I'm getting ready. | ||
| We do an open gym in Denver. | ||
| Hey, come check out local fucking guy, Brendan Schaub in Denver, getting ready to fight in O'Gare in Brazil like an asshole. | ||
| We invite family, everyone. | ||
| It's like Rocky II. Yes. | ||
| I haven't seen Shane, and he's helped me nothing this camp. | ||
| Shane's on a boat an hour away. | ||
| My coach goes, bro, you're supposed to be here. | ||
| Shane goes, oh, shit, it's Saturday? | ||
| Yeah, man, Brendan's banking on you. | ||
| There's fucking everyone here. | ||
| He goes, all right, give me a second. | ||
| Hour, fucking shade, smells like sunscreen, sunburnt, just all shitty. | ||
| He goes, who has gloves? | ||
| Gets gloves on. | ||
| I think he had cut off jean shorts and a fucking Van Halen shirt. | ||
| He had Daisy Duke on? | ||
| Just some Daisy Duke. | ||
| Van Halen shirt. | ||
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Literally tells his son, he's like, just wait over there. | |
| I'm like, I'm gonna fucking destroy this hick. | ||
| What the fuck you doing, Shane? | ||
| He's like, you ready? | ||
| Cracks neck to the side. | ||
| I'm like, yeah. | ||
| Just fucking tubs at me like a fucking great white shark. | ||
| Left hook. | ||
| Boom! | ||
| I'm like, whoa! | ||
| Remind you, all my family and friends are like, oh my god, Shane's gonna kill shop. | ||
| Shane's on top, ground and pounding. | ||
| After he drops you? | ||
| After he drops me, I come to, I go, what the fuck are you doing? | ||
| He goes, sorry bro, here, get up, get up, and then take me down. | ||
| I'm like, no, this isn't WWE. I'm like, stop, stop. | ||
| I told my coach, I'm like, I'm fucking rocked, man. | ||
| And then I fight Noguera. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| And he knew that you were about to have a fight. | ||
| Shane's super old school, man. | ||
| No one made me more tougher than Shane. | ||
| No one gave me more head trauma than Shane Carlin. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| Love that guy. | ||
| So the Rothwell fight, how far out was it? | ||
| Again, two weeks. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| When I was in Denver, the two weeks out was when we went balls to the wall, where it was me and Shane only, three rounds, and it was weird trying to knock each other out. | ||
| And you know what we'd do? | ||
| The coach would go, 30 seconds, the entire gym would shut the fuck down and watch me and Shane, because 30 seconds meant technique out the window, plant your feet and punch each other in the face. | ||
| That's what I would do, and I used to bank on it. | ||
| People were like, oh, you're the best, Shab, that was so cool. | ||
| I'm like, yeah, thanks, man. | ||
| You used to bank on that? | ||
| It was like my thing. | ||
| It was like, yeah, Shab, go toe-to-toe with Garwin, man. | ||
| This is so cool. | ||
| Bad idea, man. | ||
| Then I'd go in the bathroom to throw up. | ||
| I'd get in my car. | ||
| I wouldn't know how to drive home. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Shane would tell me the same thing. | ||
| Call me. | ||
| That was amazing, brother. | ||
| I'm fucked up. | ||
| True story, man. | ||
| That's some Cheech and Chong conversation. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Dude, it's like, dude, where's my car? | ||
| Oh my god, that's so crazy. | ||
| That's so crazy. | ||
| When I think back on it, now I'd be like, no, get the fuck out of here. | ||
| Like, when I was getting ready for camp at Black House, they do this thing where they do rounds, and you have to leave your foot in, they put three cones out, you have to leave your foot in the cone, and then spar, guys. | ||
| Just to work on, you know, staying in the pocket, moving. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I was just getting started, man. | ||
| And they were doing like 12 rounds. | ||
| What? | ||
| Yeah, and I did like six. | ||
| Did you rotate guys? | ||
| Yeah, you'd rotate guys. | ||
| Oh my God. | ||
| And I did like six, and then I was like, dude, I'm taking some shots here. | ||
| And this is an older, you know, big brown. | ||
| I was like, I'm good, man. | ||
| I'm done. | ||
| I wish I was that smart when I was young. | ||
| See, different people have different systems as far as teaching people how to strike and moving in, like, certain positions every time, time and time again. | ||
| When you watch, like, the really high-level kickboxers from Holland, they all have, like, a very systematic approach. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, I'd love to get you to sit down with, or to train, rather, with Rob Kamen. | ||
| Rob Kamen is a really interesting guy when it comes to that stuff. | ||
| He's got a system, and he teaches a system a lot like a lot of people teach a jiu-jitsu system. | ||
| Not as complex as, like, your system, because your system is just... | ||
| Infinite number of moves and positions, but came and had like a deep, deep knowledge of that Dutch style kickboxing. | ||
| And he's a heavyweight. | ||
| And he's trained heavyweights, right? | ||
| He's a big fella. | ||
| I don't know if he's... | ||
| Technically, he's over 205 pounds. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, he's a bigger dude. | ||
| He's a big fella. | ||
| Well, he's a bad motherfucker. | ||
| Rob Kamen, if you go back and watch his highlight reel, he was tremendous. | ||
| His technique was spectacular. | ||
| He's in Santa Monica, right? | ||
| He's here now. | ||
| I think he's staying in Topanga, but he's here now. | ||
| He's in town. | ||
| What a great guy, too. | ||
| Just a sweetheart of a guy. | ||
| But he's interesting, because he was responsible for a lot of Brandon Vera's early success. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| That's why I know the name. | ||
| Yeah, he was working with Brendan Vera early in his career. | ||
| And whether or not that's why Brendan was so successful, it's up to debate, you know? | ||
| But he was doing really well back then when he was with Kamen. | ||
| Makes sense. | ||
| I mean, that's when he beat Frank Mir. | ||
| That's when he beat a lot of guys back then. | ||
| Remember that Silver? | ||
| Remember that heavyweight Silver? | ||
| Swerio Silva. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Was that who it was? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Did he guillotine him? | ||
| Guillotine him. | ||
| That was nasty. | ||
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| Who did he head-kick KO'd? | ||
| He head-kick KO'd Justin Eilers? | ||
| Yeah, bad. | ||
| Justin Eilers. | ||
| And then he kneed Frank Mir, remember? | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| That's right. | ||
| And then he got on the mic and was like, I'm going to be the first fighter ever. | ||
| Heavyweight, light heavyweight. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He looked good back then, man. | ||
| Fuck, he was nasty. | ||
| He looked good. | ||
| And those are the Rob Kamen days. | ||
| Related or not related I don't know and then there was but there was also when you talk about him You got to talk about he had a contract dispute so he's out for a long time There's a contract dispute for the UFC came back a lot of pressure on him didn't perform that well when he came back Just that taking that downtime off for contract disputes to that can fuck with your head, man I think he's still fighting in 1FC. Yeah, he is. | ||
| Yeah, he is. | ||
| He's a heavyweight. | ||
| Back to heavyweight. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He said, fuck this diet. | ||
| Yeah, well, especially 1FC. I don't know what sort of Mexican supplements they test for. | ||
| Yeah, I don't either. | ||
| Do they have the full menu of Mexican supplements? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| That's trouble fighting a Brandon Vera on anything. | ||
| Well, a lot of these guys, they say, like, you know, let them take it. | ||
| Why not? | ||
| You know, have an organization where they do take it. | ||
| Let's see what happens. | ||
| You know, if you've got international fighters that fight over there, just say, hey, this is the pride of Asia. | ||
| This is how it goes. | ||
| We're not going to test it for steroids. | ||
| We don't have to over here. | ||
| That'd be interesting. | ||
| Does 1FC test? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I have no idea. | ||
| Well, Rich Franklin's the big dog over there, right? | ||
| He's running it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's running it. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Okay, let's ask. | ||
| Does 1FC test for steroids? | ||
| What do you think? | ||
| I'm going to say no. | ||
| I would say no to fuck no. | ||
| I mean, anything outside the United States, I'm always sketchy about, man. | ||
| Alright, let's see. | ||
| Does one have some tests for steroids? | ||
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It doesn't say steroids. | |
| Steroid use in American football. | ||
| Why does it think football and Dana White admits... | ||
| Yeah, is that it? | ||
| You gotta get on Twitter for that. | ||
| You think so? | ||
| You think? | ||
| You gotta just ask people. | ||
| Someone text Rich Franklin? | ||
| Is he really gonna tell us? | ||
| Someone's gotta know on Twitter. | ||
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Do they test for steroids at 1FC? Is it the number one? | |
| Is it number one FC? 0NEFC. Let's try this. | ||
| 1FC champion versus champion. | ||
| Ben Askren. | ||
| Bitches and beauties. | ||
| Doesn't say. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Oh, drug tests. | ||
| We're clean. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| That means they have a drug test. | ||
| Dude, but Pride used to say they're clean. | ||
| How dare you? | ||
| Pride was like, nah, we're good. | ||
| Yeah, we're good. | ||
| George Oliveira. | ||
| That isn't our George Oliveira, is it? | ||
| Yeah, he fought for them for a while. | ||
| For 1FC? I didn't know that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What do you mean, which George Oliveira are you talking about? | ||
| From Legends. | ||
| I think it's him, isn't it? | ||
| First of all, well, it says drug tests were clean, stained that George Oliveira tested positive 4 steroids. | ||
| How dare that? | ||
| Let's check. | ||
| Like I said, man, anything outside the United States makes me skeptical hippo. | ||
| Skeptical hippo? | ||
| Have you ever seen that meme? | ||
| It's a skeptical with just sketchy eyes. | ||
| No. | ||
| Skeptical Hippo? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's a funny meme. | ||
| Have you seen it? | ||
| Oh, this is a different guy. | ||
| That's George Oliveira that tested positive in the Ryan LaFlair fight. | ||
| That's a different... | ||
| That's the guy who fought Ryan LaFleur in the UFC recently. | ||
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Right? | |
| Right? | ||
| He didn't fight Ryan LeFlair. | ||
| He fought in the Ryan LeFlair undercard, excuse me. | ||
| LeFlair fought Damian Maia. | ||
| Oh, Damian Maia looked good in that fight. | ||
| Maia looked great, right? | ||
| LeFlair's tough to do. | ||
| This is our buddy. | ||
| That's our buddy, Oliveira. | ||
| Skeptical hippo. | ||
| Skeptical. | ||
| There it is. | ||
| That's my face when you ask if they do steroids. | ||
| Oh, I know that guy. | ||
| I've trained with that guy. | ||
| He's a black belt, right? | ||
| So obviously there's more than one George Oliveira. | ||
| Wait, he's not your friend? | ||
| No, that guy is. | ||
| That guy is our friend. | ||
| From Legend. | ||
| Yeah, from Legend, right? | ||
| Legend's MMA, back in the day, was a fun place, man. | ||
| I bought a t-shirt. | ||
| I came to LA with a buddy, and at the time I wasn't fighting. | ||
| I went to Legends just because Randy Couture owned it. | ||
| I bought a t-shirt like a fanboy. | ||
| Wore it around. | ||
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Awesome. | |
| Hey, let's watch that fight if we can. | ||
| Let's see if we can watch that... | ||
| Iaquinta? | ||
| Yeah, the Al Iaquinta fight. | ||
| That was the one that we wanted to watch, and the other one that we wanted to watch was the KO, the Gustafson-Anthony Johnson fight. | ||
| Oh, yeah, with the headbutt. | ||
| We'll watch that first. | ||
| Go take a pee, young man. | ||
| If we have time, I would love your opinion on Kathy Long's highlight reel. | ||
| Oh, she's dope, dude. | ||
| I've seen her fight before. | ||
| She was one of those American kickboxers from back in the day, right? | ||
| Dude, she moved very well. | ||
| Very well. | ||
| Yeah, she was badass, dude. | ||
| She was badass. | ||
| She wants to fight. | ||
| Does she? | ||
| Yeah, she's trying to get a fight right now. | ||
| She's 51. And she's in great shape. | ||
| She's 51? | ||
| She's in great shape. | ||
| I see her twice a week at my gym. | ||
| She's in great shape, man. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Yeah, she's trying to get a fight, but... | ||
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That's amazing, 51. Invicta should look into her. | |
| Kathy Long can still strike. | ||
| She's still badass. | ||
| And she's got decent defensive jiu-jitsu. | ||
| She actually fought MMA like two, three years ago. | ||
| Did she really? | ||
| Yeah, she fought in... | ||
| Ooh, what show is that? | ||
| That's up on YouTube, too. | ||
| She won. | ||
| She was 49 and she won. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| She really wants to fight, dude. | ||
| She is vicious. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, she's 51 and she wants to fight, like, now. | ||
| It's just hard. | ||
| It's like, I guess promoters are worried about her age. | ||
| Yeah, it's hard to sell that, man. | ||
| It's hard to sell that. | ||
| But when you look at her highlight reel, dude, you're like, oh shit, she could probably pull it off. | ||
| I think people today are more worried about people getting hurt that are older than ever before, you know? | ||
| But look at what Krokop just did. | ||
| Shit. | ||
| How old is Krokop? | ||
| 40. 40 and a hard 40. A 40, you know, of a guy who has been fighting top-level competition for a long time. | ||
| In and out of the gym. | ||
| I don't think it's on... | ||
| They don't have it on Fight Pass, goddammit. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Is it a fox fight? | ||
| Yeah, it is a fox fight. | ||
| Maybe it doesn't get on Fight Pass because of that. | ||
| Makes sense. | ||
| Yeah, it doesn't appear to be in the library unless I'm retarded, which is punishable. | ||
| Can't find it. | ||
| Anthony Johnson, you should be able to... | ||
| No, that's what I'm looking for. | ||
| I'm not bad at that B-shop graphic down there with LeVar Johnson. | ||
| Nice pretty young anaconda. | ||
| Let's try... | ||
| Let's see if we can find the Al Iaquinta fight here. | ||
| I think if it's not, I think I have it on DirecTV. | ||
| I think I saved those here. | ||
| Let's see. | ||
| All right, Quinta versus Ross Pearson. | ||
| That's a good fight. | ||
| All right, Quinta. | ||
| Doesn't seem to be on here either. | ||
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All right, Quinta Masvidal. | |
| Come on, bitch. | ||
| Doesn't look like that's on there, man. | ||
|
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I mean, can you get the... | |
| God, then you get into some weird shit. | ||
| I was gonna say you can get the replay. | ||
| There it is, there. | ||
| It's not on Fight Pass? | ||
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It's somewhere else. | |
| Okay, cool. | ||
| Go full screen on that shit, son. | ||
| Don't be scared. | ||
| There it is. | ||
| What is it on? | ||
| Is it something illegal? | ||
| Are we legally streaming right now? | ||
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Maybe. | |
| God damn it. | ||
| Damn it, Jamie! | ||
| You're going to get us in trouble. | ||
| We're going to watch this fight to see how clearly we can see that. | ||
| I'm sure we can find just the highlight. | ||
|
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It's a choppy video of the two. | |
| Is it choppy? | ||
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I'm sure you can find the highlight video. | |
| Did you use that new component? | ||
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I didn't have a chance to figure it out. | |
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Let's just see it for a second. | ||
| Yeah, you know what? | ||
| This is going to be too choppy to be able to distinguish whether or not it was a headbutt. | ||
| I'm sure you can get a slow-mo highlight of it. | ||
| But how come it looks okay when you're on a short screen like that? | ||
| Because it does. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| Oh, I was trying to catch up. | ||
| So it's like a video card thing? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Wow. | ||
| And that's what that little component's for? | ||
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To make it better, yeah. | |
| Okay. | ||
| So this is post-KO. We're going to have to take it to the moment he gets hurt. | ||
| This is a fight I haven't seen. | ||
| I was on a plane when this happened. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
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| Yeah, you've got to take it way back before that, Jamie. | ||
| Way back. | ||
| Like, right about there. | ||
| Like right about where the cursor was. | ||
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You need to go further back. | |
| Because he heard him and then he stalked him down for a while. | ||
| There it is. | ||
| Flick to the eye. | ||
| This means the fight is already over. | ||
| Oh, that's the poke to the eye. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So this is the start up after the poke to the eye. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| Boom, that's it. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| That's what did it right there. | ||
| It's a right hand as well, man. | ||
| You need to see the slow motion, man. | ||
| I think Anthony is going to win this fight anyways, whether that headbutt happened or not, but in this certain case, the headbutt's what fucking destroyed Alexander. | ||
| Oh, Jesus. | ||
| Okay, so tell me what you think. | ||
| Him versus Jon Jones. | ||
| What happens? | ||
| Jon's reach is too much. | ||
| Jon will take him down an inside leg trip, wear him out, elbows from the guard. | ||
| Might submit him or TKO him. | ||
| I think it goes three rounds. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Strong words. | ||
| And I'm a fan of Anthony. | ||
| I like Anthony. | ||
| He's a fucking nightmare. | ||
| Boom, boom, boom. | ||
| It's interesting. | ||
| But every fight, John, we're like, here's the guy. | ||
| Here's the guy who's going to beat him. | ||
| Here he is. | ||
| Wrong. | ||
| Well, how long can Rumble do this? | ||
| Like, how long can he fight like this? | ||
| Like, this is extreme pace he's putting on Gustafson. | ||
| It's like he's gambling that he's going to finish Gustafson. | ||
| I mean, he's going full at them, and he's got them hurt real bad, and it worked here. | ||
| Yeah, if a guy can recover, get to guard or something? | ||
| If a guy can keep from getting hit... | ||
| Jesus Christ, those uppercuts. | ||
| Nasty, man. | ||
| If a guy can keep from getting tagged by him and can take him into the third, fourth, and fifth rounds, what does that look like? | ||
| Well, against Phil Davis, he looked pretty fucking scary. | ||
| He looked scary in the second, and he looked scary in the third. | ||
| But that was Phil Davis, who doesn't present as many striking dangers as Jon Jones does. | ||
| You gotta remember, Jon Jones dismantled Vitor. | ||
| Vitor's very similar to Anthony Johnson. | ||
| When Jon fought him, he was. | ||
| Explosive as fuck. | ||
| Powerful. | ||
| Remember that? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, he got caught on that arm bar, but he ended up submitting Vitor. | ||
| But Vitor's considerably smaller. | ||
| Not at the time. | ||
| Think about Vitor roided the fuck to the gills. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, he weighed 205, but he's a different 205 than this fucking guy. | ||
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Man! | |
| Let me see that again. | ||
| See that again. | ||
| That was interesting. | ||
| Look. | ||
| Head lands. | ||
| That lands. | ||
| I've got to see it from the other angle. | ||
| Me too. | ||
| From that angle, it didn't look like it was a headbutt. | ||
| It didn't? | ||
| No. | ||
| Okay, let's see it again. | ||
| Not to me. | ||
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Here we go. | |
| We're going to see it right here. | ||
| Watch this. | ||
| Boom! | ||
| Oh, dude, that's a right hand. | ||
| Let me see one more time. | ||
| One more time. | ||
| See, that's what I'm saying. | ||
| It seems so... | ||
| That angle's rough. | ||
| Let me see one more time. | ||
| And then he seemed alright after that. | ||
| He was moving around and dancing. | ||
| He's pretty fucked up. | ||
| I felt so bad for him. | ||
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Here we go. | |
| One more time. | ||
| One more time. | ||
| Here's the kick. | ||
| Bam. | ||
| Dude, I think the head didn't hit. | ||
| I think the head goes through the side. | ||
|
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You're crazy. | |
| It's hard to tell, man. | ||
| We need a better angle. | ||
| Let's see. | ||
| Because that right hand, not this one, this one looks like it landed. | ||
| His head hit his shoulder. | ||
| His head hit his shoulder. | ||
| It doesn't, man. | ||
| At that angle, it does. | ||
| I'm telling you, if you can get the other view on the other side. | ||
| Keep going back to that same spot. | ||
| His head would cock back if he got head-butted. | ||
| Check it out again. | ||
| You'd be able to see the impact. | ||
| Dude, I think the head goes to the left and the right hand lands. | ||
| You might have bumped heads at the same time. | ||
| It is possible. | ||
| This is a bad angle. | ||
| See, there was no point of impact. | ||
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That's not good. | |
| Go back to that other angle. | ||
| You would see the impact. | ||
| The other side you can tell, though. | ||
| This is like this is a Pruder film. | ||
| Bam. | ||
| Could have hit him. | ||
| Could have hit him on the right eyebrow. | ||
| Can't you type in headbutt on YouTube or something for me? | ||
| Because they give you different angles. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Here it is one more time. | ||
| Boom! | ||
| You think that right hand landed that hard to do that? | ||
| The right hand was hard. | ||
| What did you think it landed that hard? | ||
| Look how fucking hard he's throwing it. | ||
| He's throwing his whole body into it. | ||
| That angle looks bad. | ||
| The other one, it doesn't. | ||
| Let's see it one more time. | ||
| Let's see it one more time from that other angle. | ||
| I'm telling you, if we can just pull some bullshit, you can get another angle on YouTube. | ||
| One more time, one more time. | ||
| It's like some kid in the crowd. | ||
| You're saying that he didn't throw his right hand hard is crazy. | ||
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Watch this. | |
| Right here, it doesn't look hard. | ||
| Wham! | ||
| Are you kidding me? | ||
| Right there, doesn't it? | ||
| Oh, you're so crazy. | ||
| He throws everything into that punch. | ||
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Look at this. | |
| Right here, it looks like fucking Mike Tyson. | ||
| See it again. | ||
| Back it up again. | ||
| Back it up again on his clavicle. | ||
| Dude, he's... | ||
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I'm telling you, there's a thing on YouTube on the other side. | |
| But this right hand. | ||
| The idea that he's not throwing that hard is so crazy. | ||
| He punched him a lot in the clavicle. | ||
| It landed right here and knocked him down. | ||
| It didn't land in the face. | ||
| No, it hits his face and then it hits the clavicle. | ||
| Look, it hits both. | ||
| Right here it doesn't. | ||
| Watch this. | ||
| Right here it doesn't. | ||
| The head hits, that hits. | ||
| Dude, that hit his fucking cheek. | ||
| It hit his fucking cheek. | ||
| Ooh, I disagree. | ||
| Oh, come on, back it up again. | ||
| Look, it hits his fucking face, it hits his cheek, and then it goes into his collarbone. | ||
| Watch this. | ||
| Boom! | ||
| Dude, it hits his face first. | ||
| It hits right here. | ||
| You're blind. | ||
| You need to go to a doctor. | ||
|
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Are you serious? | |
| Look at this. | ||
|
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Boom! | |
| That punch hits his face. | ||
| You see his hair go like this. | ||
| Dude, that punch 100% hits his face. | ||
|
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Hear me out. | |
| Do you see elves? | ||
| When you get up in the morning, do you ever see elves? | ||
| 100%. | ||
| No, Jamie. | ||
| There's an angle from the other side. | ||
| One more time, Jamie. | ||
| No, this isn't the evidence. | ||
| This isn't the evidence. | ||
| It's not just a video. | ||
| No big deal. | ||
| No, there's a video from the other side, bro. | ||
| One more time. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| Dink! | ||
| Chin. | ||
| That was not good. | ||
| Cheek and jaw. | ||
| Now watch this next one. | ||
| Clear as fuck. | ||
| Look at his hair. | ||
| Bam! | ||
| In the face before it hits anything else. | ||
| His head goes that way from a headbutt. | ||
| Did you see his hair? | ||
| The proof is in the hair. | ||
| It didn't matter. | ||
| The punch lands on the fucking cheek. | ||
| That's what you were arguing against. | ||
| You were saying it hits his clavicle. | ||
| It definitely doesn't hit his clavicle. | ||
| That punch hits his face and then glances off and then hits him on the chin. | ||
| Here's the other view. | ||
| Here's the other view. | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
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This view? | |
| You can't see the punch land. | ||
| You can see the headbutt. | ||
| You can see the headbutt. | ||
| Just like you can't see it on the other side. | ||
| Okay, let's see. | ||
| Watch. | ||
| Looks like you hit him in the head. | ||
| With a headbutt, right? | ||
|
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Let's see. | |
| Slowly. | ||
| Slow. | ||
|
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Slow. | |
| Look. | ||
| Right hand hit the chin first, clearly. | ||
| Right hand hits the cheek. | ||
| It's 100%. | ||
| Headbutt hits the temple. | ||
| Oh, you know what? | ||
| He did headbutt him afterwards. | ||
| He definitely headbutted him afterwards, but the right hand hit him first. | ||
| I gotta agree with you on that. | ||
| I'll give you that. | ||
| The headbutt is after. | ||
| There is a headbutt after. | ||
| 100%, but look. | ||
| There's a headbutt, though. | ||
| It is a headbutt, for sure. | ||
| But here, boom. | ||
| Right hand first. | ||
| One more time. | ||
| Watch this. | ||
| Where does it go? | ||
| Do what you just did. | ||
| Watch one more time. | ||
| Look at that headbutt, though, son. | ||
| But the right hand came before it. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| Back it up to where the right hand came. | ||
| There was a headbutt. | ||
| There was a headbutt. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| It's before that. | ||
| Here it goes. | ||
| Watch this. | ||
| Look at the right hand. | ||
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Bam! | |
| Is that clavicle? | ||
| And that's headbutt temple. | ||
| No! | ||
| He hit him in the fucking cheek. | ||
| Dude, you see from the overhead that punch lands on his cheek. | ||
| It lands on his cheek and jaw. | ||
| But it's both. | ||
| It's both. | ||
| It's both. | ||
| Bam! | ||
| On the face, and then headbutt. | ||
| Bam! | ||
| Right there. | ||
| 100% headbutt, 100% punch lance first. | ||
| I agree. | ||
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Both. | |
| Both of them are damaging. | ||
| Both of them fucked him up. | ||
| I think that thing would have won that fight either way. | ||
| I'm not taking anything away from Johnson. | ||
| From that angle, 100% they collide heads. | ||
| So now we know. | ||
| But also 100% the punch lance first. | ||
| You can see it right there. | ||
| Doom and doom. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Beat him fair and square. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| Powerful, Anthony Johnson. | ||
| But I don't think it matters if the punch lands first. | ||
| I mean, there was a headbutt. | ||
| It definitely was a headbutt. | ||
| But he got tagged by that right hand on the face first. | ||
| Which one wobbled him more, though? | ||
| Which one wobbled him more, though? | ||
| It's a good question. | ||
| The only one that can answer is him, really. | ||
| And I bet even he can't. | ||
| I bet he's so out of it, he can't. | ||
| Yeah, what do you do in a situation like that? | ||
| If the guy lands a punch, and then the headbutt lands, and the headbutt, clearly, the guy lands a punch, he gets hurt, but the headbutt stiffens him up. | ||
| And he goes out. | ||
| It's part of the game. | ||
| It is part of the game, but what do you say? | ||
| Shit happens. | ||
| But the method of KO is kind of headbutt. | ||
| We should bring back headbutts. | ||
| It would have to be like how much time has passed between them because like say if you tagged a guy with a right hand and he was wobbly as fuck and he was backing up and a few seconds go by and then he throws a right hand and misses and you collide heads and he goes unconscious. | ||
| True. | ||
| Then what happens? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Then what do you do? | ||
| Well, then you need a rematch. | ||
| I think that one's like, you know what I'm saying? | ||
| It's like... | ||
| You can't ask for a rematch in a fight like that. | ||
| You can't. | ||
| That magnitude. | ||
| There would have to be some sort of a huge event. | ||
| See, I wanted to see Gus Finn and DC fight next. | ||
| That's a good fight. | ||
| That's a great fight. | ||
| That's a very good fight. | ||
| I wish they would have done that instead of separating them. | ||
| Well, Gustafsson versus Bader is an interesting fight too, man. | ||
| What Bader did to Ovin St. Prue I thought was really interesting, but Ovin St. Prue is not nearly the wrestler that DC is. | ||
| DC is wrestling, especially when you're dealing with a guy who's his size. | ||
| Not a long, tall guy like Jon Jones, who's so awkward and strong, but a guy more his size, a thick, stocky guy like Bader. | ||
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Bader won't take DC. Isn't St. Pru fighting pretty soon? | |
| Yeah, he's fighting soon too. | ||
| When is that? | ||
| Oh, he's fighting my boy Pat Cummins. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Because Pat is a fucking nightmare. | ||
| He was at my seminar. | ||
| He's a great guy, man. | ||
| Awesome. | ||
| Great guy. | ||
| Super smart. | ||
| Man, I hate to say super athletic, but God damn. | ||
| He plays football. | ||
| He plays at University of Tennessee. | ||
| He's a professional. | ||
| Not professional. | ||
| Not professional, but I meant... | ||
| Elite. | ||
| Elite athlete. | ||
| Division I athlete at University of Tennessee. | ||
| And he loves hitting twisters, man. | ||
| Watch. | ||
| He already has a calf crank from the truck. | ||
| He already has a Jason Von Flu choke. | ||
| Remember that? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He got that dude in the Von Flu choke. | ||
| That Russian cat. | ||
| There's a lot of dudes who don't even know that position. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Pat Cummings, I'm telling you, is a fucking monster. | ||
| He's a monster. | ||
| He's a monster. | ||
| Pat will win that fight. | ||
| Ovens ain't proved that fucking left hook that knocked Shogun out. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Sweet sidestep. | ||
| Ovens is a specimen, dude. | ||
| I know, man. | ||
| And he moves very well on the ground. | ||
| He's a very good grappler. | ||
| He loves playing London. | ||
| He loves playing. | ||
| Also known as Sean Williams guard. | ||
| He loves going there. | ||
| Pat Cummings is one of those guys. | ||
| He's like Rashad Evans. | ||
| He's a fucking impossible submit man. | ||
| He trains with Verdum all the time and me all the time. | ||
| And gets in the worst positions ever. | ||
| He's a tough dude too. | ||
| And a stud wrestler. | ||
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And grinds man. | |
| He grinds. | ||
| Has cutting weight down to a T. Yeah, and has insane endurance and work ethic. | ||
| Good luck with that. | ||
| His work ethic. | ||
| Such a good fight. | ||
| Cummings, baby! | ||
| Eddie, bravo. | ||
| Fuck that. | ||
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Fuck that. | |
| Ovens does have some nasty power. | ||
| He says fuck that. | ||
| Ovens does have some nasty power. | ||
| How about we put some money on it? | ||
| Let's do it. | ||
| How much you want? | ||
| I'll bet you $1,000. | ||
| Oh my God! | ||
| Not $1,000! | ||
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You went deep! | |
| $1,000! | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| How about $20 for fun? | ||
|
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$20. | |
| $20? | ||
| $1,000? | ||
| I'll give you $20. | ||
| A bunch of Chipotle. | ||
| How about a dinner? | ||
| How about a dinner? | ||
| Okay, there you go. | ||
| You take the three of us out to dinner. | ||
| The loser buys dinner. | ||
| Where at? | ||
| At the good place. | ||
| Wherever we want. | ||
| $1,000 is a lot of money. | ||
| Joe picks the place. | ||
| Okay, we'll go to a good joint. | ||
| $1,000 is a lot of money. | ||
| We'll go get a steak somewhere. | ||
| Yeah, Morton's, wherever. | ||
| Damn, you willing to gamble on that? | ||
| How about, oh, Vince wins anyways, and I still pay for it. | ||
| How about that? | ||
| Hey, a thousand bucks. | ||
| Fuck it. | ||
| Ovens, a thousand right here. | ||
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A thousand? | |
| You really want to do a thousand? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Or you want to do dinner? | ||
| What's going to happen? | ||
| You pick, Eddie. | ||
| Let's play a thousand. | ||
| Fuck it. | ||
| Ovens is incredible, dude. | ||
| Ovens. | ||
| So bold. | ||
| Ovens, you listening to me? | ||
| I'm betting Brendan 1,000. | ||
| It's on you, kid. | ||
| You really want to get involved in this? | ||
| You've got to decide right now before you touch hands. | ||
| Dude, it was my idea. | ||
| And you're a badass bluff. | ||
| I'm calling your bluff. | ||
| A thousand dollars. | ||
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You're not going to do it. | |
| You're not going to do it. | ||
| I'm a gambling man. | ||
| Okay, a thousand. | ||
| A thousand dollars. | ||
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You sure? | |
| I swear to God. | ||
| I can trust you? | ||
| It was my idea. | ||
| But it was a bluff. | ||
| It's not a bluff. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| We both have our sides. | ||
| You can't back out. | ||
| Don't back out. | ||
| Don't back out. | ||
| I'll do a thousand and dinner. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| A thousand. | ||
| A thousand. | ||
| Oh my god, I can't believe I'm seeing this. | ||
| Pat, you better train your ass off. | ||
| I can't believe I'm seeing this. | ||
| When is that fight, goddammit? | ||
| Two weeks. | ||
| It's on the Machida card. | ||
| Oh my goodness. | ||
| Pat Cummings, baby! | ||
| I wanted cash. | ||
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$100 bills. | |
| Yeah, don't bring me no fucking check, man. | ||
| A write-off. | ||
| Don't bring me a tenth plan to check or something. | ||
| Hey, dude, I got something you can get. | ||
| You have a corporation that I could have. | ||
| Dude, how about this? | ||
| You gotta help me out, bro. | ||
| I'll give you $1,500 in private less. | ||
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Yeah, right? | |
| You got a free gym membership for a year. | ||
| I actually charge $15 in an hour. | ||
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I charge $16 in an hour, but I'll give you a break. | |
| All you owe me is $100, dude. | ||
| I'm a little nervous now. | ||
| That really escalated. | ||
| That did escalate. | ||
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That's a lot of money. | |
| That's a lot of money. | ||
| A thousand bucks is real cash. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| That's real cash. | ||
| Oh, Vince is going to fuck him up. | ||
| Trust me. | ||
| He's going to fuck him up. | ||
| Trust me, he's not. | ||
| You know what's going to happen? | ||
| Pat Cummins is going to break him in the second round. | ||
| Break him? | ||
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Fuck no. | |
| Are you kidding? | ||
| This is what's going to happen. | ||
| This is what's going to happen. | ||
| Pat, listen. | ||
| Look me in the eye. | ||
| Pat Cummins is going to get Twister. | ||
| Twister? | ||
| He's going to get Twister. | ||
| I would bet my entire bank account he doesn't get submitted. | ||
| Okay, what kind of odds on the Twister would you give? | ||
| What are odds? | ||
| Okay, here's the odds on the Twister. | ||
| If he gets him in the Twister, you bet 100. And if he gets him in the Twister, he has to give you 10,000. | ||
| Okay. | ||
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The odds, that's about the right odds. | |
| For sure. | ||
| That's about the right odds. | ||
| No, no, no, it's not. | ||
| He's good, dude. | ||
| Is he training with you full-time? | ||
| No. | ||
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Okay, to win, I don't trust him at all if he said that. | |
| To win, it's a very good bet. | ||
| It's an interesting bet. | ||
| It's an interesting fight. | ||
| You gotta look at the fact that he knocked out Shogun with one fucking punch like that and say, this kid is a stud. | ||
| And he's getting better, and he's fast, and his striking is fucking for sure dangerous and powerful. | ||
| But, the odds of him winning by Twister, when only one person ever won by Twister ever in the history of the fucking UFC, and that's the Korean zombie, one goddamn Twister of all time, the odds that he wins by Twister, I say 100 to 10,000. | ||
| You want? | ||
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$100. | |
| I mean, sure. | ||
| That's never going to happen. | ||
| That's very reasonable. | ||
| That's even reasonable. | ||
| I think odds are one in a million. | ||
| Probably more than that. | ||
| So what you're doing is stealing $100 from Eddie Bravo. | ||
| I'm already stealing $1,000. | ||
| I'm telling you. | ||
| Let's have another bet. | ||
| $100 bet. | ||
| If he gets them in a Twister, you owe me $2,000. | ||
| No. | ||
| $10,000. | ||
| But if he doesn't... | ||
| But then if he doesn't, what do I get? | ||
| A hundred bucks. | ||
| You're stealing a hundred dollars. | ||
| I'm just giving it to you. | ||
| I'm just giving it to you. | ||
| So if he wins, you down? | ||
| I'll call his ass, right? | ||
| I'll fly to fucking Kentucky and we'll be doing twisters all week. | ||
| What if Pat submits him? | ||
| Huh? | ||
| What if Pat submits him? | ||
| Doesn't matter. | ||
|
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Where is this fight at? | |
| What city is this fight at? | ||
| New Jersey. | ||
| It's in New Jersey in two weeks? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Shit, I'm in town. | ||
| Is it the 25th? | ||
|
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April 25th? | |
| You're in New Jersey? | ||
| You're in that town? | ||
| Well, Hicks and Gracie is having a seminar on the 25th, so if it's the 25th... | ||
| What's that? | ||
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Montreal. | |
| Montreal, that's that one. | ||
| Is it 25th? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
|
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Oh. | |
| This is the Fox card. | ||
| This is the Fox card. | ||
| You're announcing it, right? | ||
| Yeah, I'm announcing that one. | ||
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Oh. | |
| I'm announcing the Montreal card, too. | ||
| The Demetrius Mighty Mouse Johnson Hirogoshi card. | ||
| That card took a hit, huh? | ||
| Rampage losing, or getting pulled out of the card, rather, is a bad one. | ||
| Don't like that. | ||
| What did you think was going to happen? | ||
| Didn't like that, man. | ||
| I thought that they could work that shit out. | ||
| I thought that, I mean, I think that if there is some sort of a break in the contract enough to where he can sign with the UFC, I felt like they would have already worked it out. | ||
| You'd think his lawyers, or you'd think the UFC lawyers, who are the best in the business, would be like, dude, don't promote him yet. | ||
| We don't know. | ||
| Let's figure this logistics out and then do it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It was too rushed. | ||
| Yeah, well, I don't know, man. | ||
| Maybe they thought that they would be able to get it in under the wire before... | ||
| But why risk it? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It sounds like it was a main event. | ||
| Risk what? | ||
| You've already established that Rampage doesn't want to be in Bellator. | ||
| So whether he fights or not, UFC wins. | ||
| But not really, because now the court's saying, dude, you've still got to fight for Bellator. | ||
| But then it's beautiful. | ||
| No, the court granted an injunction, I believe. | ||
| I believe they kept him from fighting for the UFC, but they didn't say that he has to fight for Bellator. | ||
| They recognized an argument, and it has to be worked out now. | ||
| So they just said you can't fight for the UFC at this point. | ||
| Exactly, at this point. | ||
| They granted an injunction. | ||
| I think that's exactly how it works. | ||
| I'm probably using the wrong terminology, but I'm pretty sure that's exactly how it works. | ||
| So Rampage can't fight for the UFC, so the car takes a big hit. | ||
| And wasn't there another fight on the card, too, that got pulled? | ||
| What was the other fight that got pulled? | ||
| There's another big one, right? | ||
| Wasn't Roy supposed to be on that, but they took him off, too? | ||
| Well, Roy's now fighting for the title. | ||
| Title. | ||
| But I thought it was supposed to be there. | ||
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Maybe. | |
| Am I crazy? | ||
| Well, that's a great place for him to fight. | ||
| He fucking lives there. | ||
| That's where it was supposed to be, and they took him off there and put him on that Vegas card. | ||
| Well, that Vegas card is a monster, man. | ||
| When you have those title fights in Vegas, it's worth a shitload of cheddar. | ||
| Fuck yeah. | ||
| Shitload of cheddar. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| A lot of money in those Vegas cards, man. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because people like to go there, man. | ||
| Vegas loves it. | ||
| People like to do it. | ||
| It's a different animal when it's in Vegas. | ||
| And the money that it generates for the casino is insane in comparison to the money that it generates for some random arena somewhere. | ||
| If you put it on in some random arena in Montreal, I mean, it's great for the economy of Montreal, but the amount of money that gets spent in Vegas is off the goddamn charts. | ||
| Is Vegas making a big comeback? | ||
| Are they making a comeback? | ||
| Well, they definitely took a big hit. | ||
| I think it's more of a normalization. | ||
| The economy goes down, gambling goes down. | ||
| There's no way around it. | ||
| People don't have the money. | ||
| I think the hotels are taking a huge hit, though. | ||
| Those crazy-ass hotels, they're not doing well. | ||
| We were in a car once, and we asked the driver, this cab driver, like, how much different is Vegas right now? | ||
| And he goes, it's 50% down. | ||
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What the fuck? | |
| 50% down. | ||
| They said 50% down in calls, 50% down in business. | ||
| Like, they're all aware of it. | ||
| I know that city center, the engineer fucked up building it. | ||
| It's not safe, structurally, and they have to rip it down. | ||
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What? | |
| No way. | ||
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What? | |
| This might be breaking news. | ||
| Big brown style. | ||
| Brown breaking news. | ||
| But I'm pretty sure I read that. | ||
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I'm pretty sure I read that on a form from a kid. | |
| I swear though, I'm almost positive. | ||
| Something structurally is fucked up and they have to tear it down. | ||
| It's like tons and tons of money. | ||
| Let's get young Jamie to pull up some articles on this bullshit. | ||
| Jamie, see if I'm lying. | ||
| That sounds insane. | ||
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If that's the case, what a huge hit. | |
| That's terrifying. | ||
| Someone really powerful in Vegas told me, back when I was working in the UFC, he said it used to be that the casinos were packed, and then now it's like someone took a giant vacuum and just vacuumed all the people out of the casinos. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| That's what it looks like. | ||
| I'm not a Vegas guy. | ||
| I never have been. | ||
| I can't stand Vegas. | ||
| You know what's real weird? | ||
| When you go off the grid, when you get out of the strip and you go to them funky casinos that are out in the middle of nowhere. | ||
| That'll depress you. | ||
| Whoa. | ||
| What? | ||
| There's a lot of casinos in Vegas that you don't ever think about. | ||
| There's a lot of like weird fucking casinos all over the spot. | ||
| That's for the true gamblers. | ||
| Guys that they just want to gamble. | ||
| They don't want to be on the strip. | ||
| They just want a place where they could gamble. | ||
| Well, you just see a different tone of human being. | ||
| It's almost a different creature. | ||
| Dude, commerce casino here? | ||
| They're like all out of shape. | ||
| Don't give a fuck. | ||
| Big country's people. | ||
| That's why he's got to keep that mullet. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| Keep that gut. | ||
| Do you ever go to Commerce Casino? | ||
| That place is packed. | ||
| I was there last night. | ||
| There was some fights. | ||
| There was Bama fights. | ||
| Eddie Jackson. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| He won. | ||
| He looked like Chuck Liddell in his prime. | ||
| Eddie Jackson just destroyed his guy. | ||
| But the place was packed. | ||
| It was 98% Asian. | ||
| They loved to gamble. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| But the place was packed. | ||
| That's different, though, because that's not Vegas. | ||
| These local casinos is all they got. | ||
| It's like this or drive four hours to Vegas. | ||
| True. | ||
| If you're a card gambler, you can gamble right here. | ||
| If you're a poker guy, there's plenty of gambling in L.A. Like Ari Shafir, before he made it as a comic, was making more money gambling on poker than he was on anything. | ||
| No! | ||
| Usually people do it online. | ||
| Playing in tournaments. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| He was going to fucking- He must be really good. | ||
| He's very good. | ||
| Ari's smart as shit, dude. | ||
| Sounds like it. | ||
| He would go to these poker tournaments and win. | ||
| He made 35 grand one year just playing poker. | ||
| And he wasn't making much money as a comic. | ||
| He was struggling. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You can make some money. | ||
| And you can get action. | ||
| That's the big thing. | ||
| I heard online's the way to do it, though. | ||
| Because you sit at home in your fucking underwear and just go online. | ||
| But it's not legal in America anymore. | ||
| It's different. | ||
| Like, I think you have to go places. | ||
| I think Nevada, you can gamble online, but you can gamble, you can play poker online against people from Nevada. | ||
| Because, like, all those pro poker players, a lot of them moved out of country. | ||
| A lot of them moved to Monaco? | ||
| Monaco? | ||
| How do you say that? | ||
| Monaco. | ||
| They moved to Monaco, they moved to all these countries where it's legal. | ||
| Some of them moved to China, and they play in that Chinese place. | ||
| Oh, China's huge. | ||
| What's that area? | ||
| Macau, right? | ||
| Macau, yeah. | ||
| Macau, apparently, is going off. | ||
| Crazy! | ||
| They say it's Vegas times 10. That's what I've heard. | ||
| Just mad Asian gambling. | ||
| I heard Dubai's the same way. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Gambling? | ||
| Not gambling. | ||
| No gambling. | ||
| As far as crazy. | ||
| It's Islamic, right? | ||
| We're running out of time? | ||
| How dare you? | ||
| We're having a good time, Jamie. | ||
| How dare you stop us on this gambling? | ||
| Having a good fucking time. | ||
| Give us five minutes. | ||
| What's that? | ||
| Yeah, let's go part two. | ||
| You guys got something to do? | ||
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No. | |
| Let's do another hour. | ||
| Let's chill for another hour. | ||
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All right. |
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