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April 3, 2015 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #632 - Les Stroud
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joe rogan
We're live?
Jesus Christ, man, I'm tweeting.
Ustream.tv forward slash J-O-E-R-O-G-A-N. Boom.
Tweet.
Fresh from making Bigfoot his bitch.
Ladies and gentlemen, Les Stroud.
What's up, buddy?
les stroud
Hey, Joseph.
joe rogan
Fun seeing you tonight, man.
les stroud
What the hell are you doing, man?
I know, I'm like, you just got off stage at the Comedy Store, which I couldn't believe you were there and I was here.
joe rogan
Perfect.
les stroud
So I was like, yeah, David Spade, Amy Shuler, it's like stellar life.
And then you totally brought your engineers.
I was like, what, were these guys sleeping?
joe rogan
No, Brian was at the store too.
Brian was at the store.
And Jamie, I told him today that you were going to come by.
I alerted him this afternoon that we had worked out accommodations.
And here we are.
les stroud
You got energy, man.
Dude!
Well, you're flying tomorrow morning too, right?
joe rogan
I do what I like to do.
If you do what you like to do, you got energy.
les stroud
I know.
And both my cameraman and my field producer, they're completely my bitches now because they're not here.
And they're like the biggest fan of you.
And I'm like, so you're going, what, to bed?
And they're going to bed now.
They're going to bed at the Sheridan.
It's like, okay, well, you're pussies.
I'm going to go hang with y'all.
joe rogan
Sleep is for the weak sometimes.
Sometimes it's good.
It's a good idea to get sleep.
It's a renewable resource.
That's what you gotta recognize.
And if you have an opportunity to do some shit that you probably couldn't do except if you stayed awake, you gotta stay awake!
If you don't stay awake, you're not willing to suffer!
You can't suffer a little...
If you can't pull an all-nighter, you don't get all-nighter memories.
les stroud
That's right.
That's right.
joe rogan
I got some all-nighter memories from when I was in high school, man.
les stroud
Sleeping, man, when you...
No.
joe rogan
You don't get memories from sleeping!
les stroud
I know, I'm getting freaking older, and I'm still like, okay, I want to sleep less.
Actually, you do sleep less when you get older.
The testosterone's not flowing as much, and you can't do that, like, sleep until noon shit anymore?
You can't do that as you get older.
Which, in the end, is a cool thing, because you can hang out longer, you're just older.
joe rogan
You can, but you can also get up at 8 o'clock in the morning, jerk off, and go right back to sleep.
That works, too.
les stroud
That does work.
joe rogan
You can sleep.
You just gotta, you gotta fucking, make sure you schedule it.
les stroud
It's just moderation.
As long as you wake up hard, then you know you're still alive.
joe rogan
Not necessarily.
It might mean you just have to pee.
brian redban
Pee-boners are the best, though.
That's the best fuck-boner.
joe rogan
They're useless.
They barely feel them.
Whose dick is this?
les stroud
Yeah, you can't really use them, actually, either, can you?
joe rogan
You can, but you can't use them the same way.
les stroud
No, it's not the same, though.
brian redban
The cum doesn't want to come through the piece.
It usually lasts longer.
joe rogan
Yes, exactly.
les stroud
It's a very eloquent way of expressing it.
It's a technique.
Fuck, we started at the bottom on this interview.
joe rogan
We're drinking.
We just got back from the comedy store.
It's 1 o'clock.
It's almost 1, 1230 in the morning.
It's late.
les stroud
Last time I was with you, it was like 10 a.m., but it was all dark inside, and we had a beer.
joe rogan
Was it only 10 a.m.?
les stroud
It was like 10 a.m.
in the morning.
But this is way more realistic.
This is better.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, I like doing them different times.
I think it's good to do them during the day sometimes, but it's also good to do it at night sometimes.
Especially like, we've never done it live, like leaving the comedy store and coming here.
But it's a move to do.
I mean, why not?
les stroud
It's a first.
joe rogan
We own this joint.
We can just come in any time we want.
Why not?
les stroud
It's like cutting an album, man.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah!
les stroud
Neil Young used to only do everything after midnight.
joe rogan
Of course he did!
He probably did it naked, too.
You know, back then before TMZ, probably everybody was on acid, just record it.
Stuff that sucks, throw it away.
les stroud
I just don't want to picture Neil Young naked at this moment.
joe rogan
Why not?
Just open up!
brian redban
They usually have strippers, though, at these recording studios late at night.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's not just all dudes and Guinness.
les stroud
So where are they now?
joe rogan
You don't want to.
Fuck up the dynamic.
les stroud
Good set tonight.
joe rogan
Thanks, man.
les stroud
That was awesome.
I was telling Joe, I was texting him at one point, because I was listening on Comedy Central, because I'm just addicted to stand-up comedy.
So tonight, for me, was awesomeness.
We're just going and seeing all those great comedians.
And I texted him, and I realized, you know how some comedians have a shtick, right?
The most obvious was Jeff Foxworthy with his redneck stuff and all that.
And with Joe, you were nailing into this stuff, and I was listening and I thought...
He's got a riff thing that he does there on analogies.
And I started calling it the rogue analogy.
Because it's like, well, you know when you get up in the morning and it's like an elephant giving you a blowjob through a straw.
unidentified
And you're sitting there going, actually, that is kind of like an elephant giving you a blowjob through a straw.
joe rogan
I did not have a joke about an elephant and a blowjob in straw.
This is bad paraphrasing, ladies and gentlemen, from a drunk man.
les stroud
How dare you?
joe rogan
How dare you?
les stroud
But you got the analogy down.
You do that.
I'm not doing like the Joan Rivers post-Smoke Up Your Ass thing.
It's like, shit, you got that down.
Because I'm a stand-up comedian, I love it because I suck at it.
I could never do it.
It scares the crap out of me.
I couldn't tell the joke to save myself.
But listening to you do that and listening to you go into those analogies, it's like I'm going, oh shit, man.
That's right.
That is like that.
And it is like an elephant.
joe rogan
I think pretty much anybody who's ever made anybody laugh can do stand-up.
It's just a matter of, do you want to do it?
If you wanted to do it, it would take a long fucking time.
But we all know guys who sucked at it in the beginning, but they were just such fans of comedy, they just kept chipping away until eventually they figured it out.
And now they're like legit stand-ups.
It just happens.
It happens.
les stroud
I figure your 15 minutes out there, I just did 90 minute sets in LA and Vegas with my music, with my concert, right?
And I did these concerts and it was great, we kicked ass.
I figure my 90 minutes is barely as tough as your 15 minutes in stand-up comedy.
joe rogan
It's just different, man.
If you put the kind of time that you've put to searching for Bigfoot and writing music into stand-up comedy, you'd be really good at it.
les stroud
Yeah, but I'm not going to try it.
I'm not going to cut it.
joe rogan
Dude, how many more Bigfoot shows are you going to do before you catch this motherfucker?
unidentified
I need to know.
les stroud
Who says I don't already have them, man?
joe rogan
Because you already told me.
You already told me.
les stroud
Come on, man.
It's a bizarre thing to be part of all of that.
And what's going on.
And how I ended up in this position.
It's because there's so much bullshit in the field.
Like, there's the nonsense that gets put out with, you know, you've got a show where you're trying to find Bigfoot.
And you've got to crank out 13 episodes, so you need to invent these crazy stories and silly stories and stupid stories.
And nothing much is going on.
joe rogan
Nothing much.
Nothing.
les stroud
And I come along and I'm like, okay, you know what?
I'll just talk to these dudes who are into Bigfoot.
And you say he's there, you got him in a field, you're doing it.
Okay, take me there.
And I'll tell you what, leave me there in the field overnight.
Let's just see what the hell happens.
And so I approach it.
I did six shows this year.
First one premiered last night.
joe rogan
We were talking about this before the show aired, but I bear repeating, you might have invented the selfie.
les stroud
Yeah, I know.
I know.
joe rogan
You might have.
les stroud
I was on the vanguard of...
joe rogan
It's very borderline because you did a lot of shows where it was just you alone in the woods with a camera pointed at yourself and you had the lens, you know, like if you look at those little video cameras that Les used, you know, they have that viewer that you could look at you or you could turn the camera towards you and flip the viewer around and you could see what you're filming when you're filming yourself, which is like a selfie.
les stroud
It was a video selfie.
Nobody was doing it.
joe rogan
You were the first guy.
You were the first selfie guy.
les stroud
The thing I did, what nobody else was doing was I put it on television.
International broadcast TV. That's the whole thing.
It's one thing to do it.
It's another thing to base a whole freaking show on it.
joe rogan
Way worse.
You did it by yourself in the fucking woods.
You did it in Africa.
You did it in the jungle.
You did it in the swamps.
You did it in the desert.
Just you.
Not like that fucking English guy sleeping in hotels.
We don't even say his name on this show.
That English fuck sleeping, pretending to fall down ice slides.
brian redban
Johnny Appleseed.
joe rogan
That guy.
That Johnny Appleseed fuck.
les stroud
Oh man, I could go so far on that story.
Don't even bother!
You're right.
Because it gives credibility to shit.
joe rogan
I heard that that guy only exists because you weren't willing to fake shit.
les stroud
That's right.
joe rogan
You weren't willing to fake shit.
The producers wanted to fake shit.
And they said, okay, we'll get Johnny Appleseed to fake some shit.
With an English accent.
Here I am swinging from vine to vine.
Looking for snakes.
I will eat them.
Bitch, you ain't eating any snakes.
You're gonna eat filet mignon at the Four Seasons, you fuck.
There's a van waiting to pick you up.
It's air-conditioned.
You got off all over you.
You're sleeping in fine linen.
Fine linen, you fuck.
les stroud
He was very pretty, though.
He was very pretty.
joe rogan
He's still very pretty.
You're beautiful, too, man.
You got character.
You got a different kind of pretty going on.
les stroud
Yeah, it was messed up.
I got asked over a long time, and like I said, I never put it down on the networks.
I'm still good with the networks, and networks are great.
joe rogan
Networks can suck my dick.
How about that?
unidentified
All of them.
les stroud
It comes down to one person.
It's always one person, though, right?
It's one ass that's just like, oh, now we need you to crank out a bunch of these.
I actually got asked, I actually got one producer asked, and they said, no one will ever know.
And I went, yeah, they will.
Yeah, they will.
And I'll know.
And that's...
I said, no, no, no.
And along comes the bullshit after that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, it's not their fault.
It's like, that's what they do.
On every other show, what they do is these artificial scenarios.
Even whether it's pawn wars, or fucking storage wars, or...
Oh, we gotta get this car finished by Friday, man!
No, you don't!
You don't!
You don't have to get this car...
You do whatever the fuck you want to do!
les stroud
Well, I thought...
I remember the last podcast.
I remember you said you loved reality TV. And I said, I fucking hate reality TV. And I thought, that's something.
Did I say that?
You did, man.
brian redban
I did, man.
That's totally you.
Are you too sure?
unidentified
I didn't say that.
brian redban
I love road rules.
joe rogan
He's mocking you.
He's mocking me because he knows me better than you.
I don't love reality shows.
Some shows are like Life Below Zero.
That's a dope show.
That's a legit show.
That show they don't fuck around with.
I was liking that Alaska, Last Frontier show, until I saw this fucking bear eating a filleted salmon.
I'm like, oh, you're baiting the bears, you assholes.
les stroud
All that stuff's set up.
joe rogan
A lot of them.
Life Below Zero is not set up.
I know that for a fact.
les stroud
I don't know the show.
joe rogan
I had this woman, Sue Akins, on the show who lives up there 200 miles above the Arctic Circle.
That bitch is gangster as fuck.
She lives up there by herself.
She got attacked by a bear.
She got fucked up and broke her hip, bit into her skull, fucked her up, broke her leg.
She went back and shot that bear and ate it.
That bitch doesn't give a fuck.
She's 51 years old.
She's a grandmother.
She smokes cigarettes every day.
She drinks whiskey and she lives by herself in a tent because you can't have permanent structures.
Like that lady's 100% legit.
Okay.
That was legit.
There's a few of those shows where those people live in such bizarre lives.
You don't have to set up some, oh, we need to get water.
We've got to figure out how to make this pump work again.
That's all stage shit.
They'll pretend something's broken, so they have to fix it, so they have some solution to some drama that comes up.
But if you live in a harsh enough environment, you don't have to invent the drama.
And that's what you did.
What you did, you were the first motherfucker who went out there, you really were starving.
You would see you on day one, and then you would see you five days later.
You looked like shit!
Like, you couldn't fake that.
You were dehydrated, you were shrinking, you would talk about it, you couldn't sleep, you had bugs crawling all over you, rats running across your fucking sleeping quarters.
Dude, you really did it.
And you did it by yourself.
It's so much different than what these fucking people are doing.
What these people are doing is, they're just baby-fucking us.
They're feeding us a spoonful of shit.
les stroud
To me, they're making a mockery of something.
I mean...
joe rogan
Johnny Appleseed!
unidentified
That fuck!
les stroud
Before Survivorman, there was no survival genre.
joe rogan
There wasn't.
les stroud
And now, the plethora of shows, I just watched one where there was, let's just say, dual people surviving.
Hey, what are you saying?
joe rogan
What are you saying?
That show, too?
les stroud
It was hard to watch.
joe rogan
I like how that dude walks around barefoot.
les stroud
I know one of those guys.
No, that guy's long gone.
He's gone.
joe rogan
Was he the real guy?
No, he wasn't legit either?
How about, if you're gonna go barefoot, okay, how about this?
No tools, you fuck.
You won't even wear shoes.
How dare you?
How dare you treat me like such fucking...
Ignorance.
You don't have shoes on?
Well, what if you don't have shoes?
What if you don't have matches, you fuck?
les stroud
How about you don't have a cell phone or a GPS? What if the director's not going to say cut and you go back to your hotel room after this?
joe rogan
Yeah, oh, they did that too?
unidentified
What if you're still out there?
les stroud
Like the one I was watching the other night that led into my show.
There was a story like, what will they do next?
And they're crawling out of the snow shelter in the morning looking like they just had a shower and just pressed their clothing.
It's like, you know what, I've been there.
You don't look like that after a night in the frickin' snow.
You look like hell.
And they're all nice and clean, and the beard's trimmed, and everything's good.
joe rogan
It's like The Walking Dead.
That girl with the dark hair, she's hot as fuck, no matter what.
She never has zits.
les stroud
I'd love to do a cameo on that show.
joe rogan
She has perfectly placed mud.
We have an in.
We know Josh McDermott.
He's the fake scientist.
He's a good friend.
les stroud
I'm in.
I'm in.
Tell him.
brian redban
I'm caught up now.
That show is so great.
Jesus Christ, that's good.
les stroud
I do everything through, like, my son.
I just wait, and he'll just, like, pick a show, and it's like, and The Walking Dead is one of those shows, we got this big screen at home, and I sat down beside him for, like, a moment.
Oh, what are you watching?
And, like, three hours later of binge-watching Walking Dead, I'm like, oh, shit, this is awesome!
joe rogan
Binge-walking is some shit that just didn't exist in our time.
You never binge-watched a show.
You couldn't do it.
This is a new phenomenon.
People are getting bulging discs and shit in their back because they're sitting for 20 hours in a row.
People go to the hospital.
They have to fucking get massages.
People are jacked up, man.
Just from binge watching.
les stroud
Well, God bless Science Channel.
They're putting Survivorman marathons on.
Well, there'll be like eight hours of Survivorman shows.
And I'll get postings from people that they watch...
All of them.
unidentified
I'm just like, wow.
joe rogan
So how did you go from doing Survivorman to Survivorman Bigfoot?
Now, you told a story on our show that I've repeated ad nauseum because it's a fascinating story about your first experience with something that you couldn't explain.
You were in Alaska.
You flew in, very remote location, and you heard something that sounded like a primate.
les stroud
Yeah.
joe rogan
Some bipedal primate.
les stroud
Yeah.
You know what?
The bottom line was I thought, okay...
Who's the one person that you could take and drop in the middle of nowhere, in the middle of a Bigfoot hotspot, and leave them alone to see what happens?
unidentified
Well...
joe rogan
It'd be you.
les stroud
Survivor man.
joe rogan
Has to be you.
les stroud
It's gotta be me.
joe rogan
It's not me.
les stroud
So I said, fuck, let's do it.
joe rogan
I'm not doing it.
les stroud
So I'll do it.
And then I'll go after the...
Because I know you hate one of the dudes that I went out with.
Todd Stanning.
joe rogan
I don't hate him.
I don't know him.
But I know bullshit when I see bullshit.
Well listen, for the folks at home, let me show an image.
Let's show an image, Jamie.
Pull up this image.
This is a close-up of a Bigfoot, and I'm doing air quotes, a Bigfoot.
You got this, Jamie?
Pull that shit up.
Show the people.
This is a close-up.
This dude just got a big foot to stand still.
He's the only guy in history.
Got a big foot.
les stroud
And he's got two other shots like that.
So the question I ask you is, the cool part is...
joe rogan
Look how bad that looks.
Look how perfectly trimmed hair.
Now, why does it look totally different in that picture than the other picture?
les stroud
I get it.
I see what you're doing.
joe rogan
What is that?
les stroud
Okay, but let me ask you a question.
Just for a second, look at it.
Okay, now, what if...
joe rogan
Oh, gee, don't you what if me, you fuck.
les stroud
What if we're full of shit and it's real?
joe rogan
No, we're not, and that's not...
les stroud
You don't know that?
joe rogan
Yeah, we do.
You know why?
Because every animal that lives, every fucking animal that lives, looks like that animal.
No animals look like a person in a fucking animal costume.
When you see something that looks like a person in an animal costume, it's a person in an animal costume.
It's Occam's razor.
Or it's a Bigfoot.
Nope, it's 2015. That is some shitty fucking special effects.
That is a dude in a monkey suit, 100%.
les stroud
100%.
joe rogan
Or CGI. Or CGI. First of all, what animal that's hairy ever has its hair matted down like that, like it's combed?
brian redban
He's about to say the exact same thing, Joe.
joe rogan
Stupid ass fucking costume.
That thing's got aquanet on it.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Its hair is sprayed in place.
Pugs are sticking to it.
les stroud
He's working at a fast food joint.
joe rogan
Dude, that looks so stupid.
The idea that that could possibly be Bigfoot, that's 100% a human being.
You know why?
Because it has human being dimensions to its face.
You look at a gorilla, you look at a chimp, you look at an orangutan, they have a different facial structure.
100% different.
That's a human facial structure.
Absolutely.
The ratio between the nose and the eyes and the lips and the mouth, that's 100% a human being.
That's a shitty ass fucking mask.
les stroud
Dr. Joseph Logan.
joe rogan
I am a scientist.
les stroud
Okay, let me do this for you.
Okay, so let's call it the scale of believability.
Okay.
joe rogan
That's a zero.
les stroud
Alright, so at this point, let's forget anybody who thinks they don't exist at all.
joe rogan
Let's just jump over.
Jamie, is that a zero?
What is that?
Is that a zero?
It's a zero.
les stroud
You were hesitant.
You don't want to say it's a zero.
You're just like Joe's looking at me.
joe rogan
He wants to say it's 100% Bigfoot.
les stroud
I don't want to get fired, man.
Yeah, Joe, that's a zero job.
joe rogan
If he said it's 100% Bigfoot, I'd give him a raise.
les stroud
Come on, Jimmy.
joe rogan
Come on, you know that's not Bigfoot.
You, Les Stroud.
les stroud
But what if?
joe rogan
Les Stroud, you know that's not Bigfoot.
les stroud
Okay, let me go back to what I was saying.
joe rogan
Come on, be honest.
If you had to bet your beautiful son over there, if you had to bet his life as to whether or not that's Bigfoot or not.
It's not Bigfoot.
It's a goddamn monkey suit.
That's not tough at all.
unidentified
That's a tough one.
joe rogan
That's not even a little tough.
brian redban
He does not love you.
joe rogan
Why is Bigfoot standing still staring at a fucking camera?
unidentified
Isn't the whole Bigfoot lore?
les stroud
Because I saw the shit leading up to this.
I saw the other footage.
joe rogan
Oh, the shit's leading up to this.
Oh, you saw the footage leading up to this.
unidentified
I did.
joe rogan
The footage.
les stroud
Yeah.
joe rogan
Right, but you weren't there.
les stroud
No.
joe rogan
No, of course, this fucking guy you're hanging out with.
les stroud
No, no, I'm not hanging out with him, believe me.
joe rogan
You got rid of him?
les stroud
Let me hang out with so many of them now, and it's the whole shit.
That's what I want to get at.
unidentified
Okay.
les stroud
Okay, so let's just pretend.
Forget the people who don't think it exists at all.
Let's go to those who think that it does.
This is the biggest problem.
You get the scale of believability.
On the left side of the scale, you've got Gigantopithecus.
It's a big upright walking ape.
It's the missing link.
joe rogan
Well, how about you got Jane Goodall?
On the left side of the scale, you got Jane Goodall who believes it's real.
les stroud
Right.
joe rogan
Okay.
les stroud
Exactly.
As an ape.
As a species.
Yes.
Neanderthal, maybe slightly humanoid.
You keep coming towards the center of the scale.
It's like, oh, it's really stealthy.
It's got certain abilities.
And you keep coming close to the middle of the scale.
It's got tons of incredible intelligence and everything.
Okay, now you hit the middle of the scale.
Okay.
On the far right of the scale...
joe rogan
It's always the far right that fucks everything up.
les stroud
I know, the far right.
It does!
Because you know what the far right of the scale is?
unidentified
What?
les stroud
Aliens.
joe rogan
That's an alien?
les stroud
Aliens.
So then you go to...
And on the far right, it's like paranormal, cloakability, fifth dimensional, vibrational control, all sorts of shit like that.
joe rogan
They can control cameras.
les stroud
Yeah, they can control electronics.
They can do infrasound and screw you up like a lion or a tiger.
The craziest part is the argument is not between those who don't think it's real and those who do.
It's within the scope of all the people who think it is real.
That argument is insane.
Like the backstabbing and the fighting, it's like no.
And all the ape believers don't want any of the paranormal believers to say anything because they're all whacked and screwed up and we don't want them to say...
And all the paranormal believers don't want...
They're going to the ape believers saying, well, you're all closed-minded.
You're not open to the fact that it does this and it does that.
And it's this big cesspool of argumentative shit going on.
brian redban
Like WWF.
unidentified
Yeah.
It's exactly like WWF. It is a lot.
joe rogan
It's E now.
WWF is like the 90s.
les stroud
WWF stands for like, what the fuck?
joe rogan
What the fuck?
les stroud
And what I did, I dove right into that scale.
And landed myself on the land, out in the bush with all these different people.
joe rogan
And you just tried to be as objective as possible.
les stroud
Yeah, what I said is, don't make me your poster boy.
I don't want to be your poster boy for eight believers.
I don't want to be your poster boy for alien believers.
Just put me out there and show me what you got.
joe rogan
Let's back this up for people who don't know.
You're like, what?
Bigfoot?
Gigantopithecus?
What the fuck is Gigantopithecus?
Gigantopithecus is a real animal that absolutely did exist.
Right.
They only have a few bones, and they founded an apothecary shop in China in the early 1900s.
Some guy found some teeth that he knew were not any known primate.
And then he said, where'd you get these teeth?
The people that run the apothecary shop lead him to this area, they do a dig, they find some jaw bones that indicate that this animal is most likely a bipedal primate, although that's under some dispute.
So what this means is there was something that was somehow or another related to other primates.
They think it might have been in the orangutan family, but this is a bipedal enormous animal that absolutely existed at the very latest 100,000 years ago.
It could have been earlier, but they know 100,000 years ago that thing was alive.
So 100,000 years ago, there were 100% human beings at the time, there was a fucking 8 to 10 foot tall, gigantic bipedal ape, which is Bigfoot.
I mean, it's a real fucking animal.
les stroud
I'll add one tidbit to that, is the fact that if it doesn't, if it's extinct, it's the only...
Primate from that era that is extinct.
All the rest are still alive.
joe rogan
That's not totally true, because that Flores man, that hobbit man in the island of Flores, that little thing is dead, and that thing lived closer to today.
They have bones from that little fucker that was like 13,000 years ago.
les stroud
How do you know it's dead?
How do you know it's extinct?
That's true.
joe rogan
That's true.
I mean, they all ran pendek.
les stroud
And that's what everybody's saying is, how do you know they're extinct?
How do you know they're so intelligent, they're just hid in the vast forests of North America?
joe rogan
Well, that's a legit question.
Because if you go out to the forest, you know what you don't find?
Scientists.
You know, I'm fucking fucking finding scientists everywhere, surveying every inch of the land.
It is quite possible, like, you know, there's always these weird animals they find, like that vampire deer that lives in Vietnam.
Like, what the fuck is this?
They have some fang deer.
Like, they talked about it, like villagers would talk about it, and they're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, you found a fang deer.
Okay, good luck with that.
But they really did find this goddamn thing.
See if you pull that up, Jamie.
Fang deer, I think of Vietnam.
This is like a mythical animal.
les stroud
There's a gigantic chimpanzee they found as well.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, the Bondo ape.
That's a real animal.
les stroud
It's real.
joe rogan
They know now for sure.
les stroud
It was mythological until they found it.
The giant squid, mythological until they found it.
Just stories.
And that's the whole thing that happens with cryptozoology.
It starts off with just a story.
joe rogan
It's a deer with fangs.
What the fuck is that thing?
les stroud
Now if I'd said to you before they discovered it...
You know that there's a deer with facts.
joe rogan
It's a vampire deer.
les stroud
Yeah.
And you said not a chance, man.
brian redban
They didn't find one of them?
joe rogan
No, there's a...
Well, it's a very densely populated or densely wooded area, but they know there's a family of them living there.
It's not just one.
They've observed more than one of these weird deer.
unidentified
Weird.
joe rogan
And the chimps, the Bondo chimps, they have photographs of them.
They have tissue samples.
They have hair.
They have photographs of dead ones.
les stroud
They're huge.
joe rogan
Yeah, they know for sure that's a real animal.
And it's different.
It has a crest on its forehead.
They have skulls, a full, intact skull of a recently dead animal.
And there's a crest on its forehead like a gorilla, which chimps don't have.
So it's really confusing.
les stroud
Which takes it out of cryptozoology and into...
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a real animal.
I mean, they have photos of it, they have videos of it, they have scientists that have gone down there and seen it.
Carl Armand, he's a Swiss wildlife photographer.
He started being obsessed with it, I believe, in 96. He started going down there to the Congo.
But it's in this really deep, deep, deep...
The Congo is giant.
It's like almost as wide as the entire United States.
And it's just dense jungle.
Like, good fucking luck finding what's in there.
les stroud
And that's what you got...
With Bigfoot.
joe rogan
Yeah.
les stroud
It's the same difference.
People aren't going.
And then those who are saying they see them or whatever, they're doctors, they're lawyers, they're conservation officers, they're hunters, they're anglers, they're hikers.
They're not all whack jobs.
Right.
joe rogan
They're not all whack jobs.
And you're the one guy, when everyone goes, oh, you know, it's all bullshit, I go, damn, I think Les knows some shit.
You know, when you say that you heard something that sounded like a gorilla and it's in the woods, it's possible.
Who the fuck sees a wolverine?
Okay?
Good luck finding a wolverine.
You could wander around the woods your whole life and never see a wolverine.
Never see a dead one.
But they're out there.
We know they're out there.
You take whatever that is and lessen its population by 90%.
Now you have 10% of that population.
And it's smart.
You gonna find that thing?
les stroud
And it's elusive, exactly.
60,000 black bears in Ontario.
I've never seen a black bear skeleton.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
les stroud
Oh, where's the bones?
Well, 60,000 black bears.
Never see a black bear.
You don't see predator bones.
joe rogan
Yeah, bears eat their bear skeletons.
les stroud
And so now if you've got, let's say there's 8,000 Sasquatch in Ontario, and they're secret, and they're elusive, and they're intelligent, they're smart, and they bury their bones.
You're just not going to...
joe rogan
I say eight.
les stroud
It's not a difficult...
joe rogan
I don't say 8,000.
les stroud
If there's any of them, there's eight of them.
I think if there's any, there's like, there's 8,000.
joe rogan
You really think there's that?
I don't think there's that.
les stroud
There has to be.
joe rogan
I think there's one dude.
les stroud
That was one thing I pointed out on the show.
I was like, let's get past that.
joe rogan
This 1950s doo-wop hairdo looking at you.
It's one guy.
les stroud
He's riding Loch Ness.
joe rogan
That's bullshit, though.
That's what we saw.
If there is a Bigfoot, that's not it.
That's bullshit.
les stroud
No.
joe rogan
It's 100% bullshit.
That guy's a liar.
And it's unfortunate because people like that, these people that want to make shit up, they confuse the fuck out of everybody who wants to believe.
brian redban
I think it's also confusing that you're using the word Bigfoot when that's not really what it is.
It's more like finding giant, you know, another one of these big apes.
joe rogan
Finding Gigantopithecus.
les stroud
How do you know that?
brian redban
Because putting, what, the original guy that made the Bigfoot name or whatever this big monster is, didn't they already find out that it was faked through the whole thing?
joe rogan
Well, no, that guy didn't make the name.
That's the thing.
You're talking about the Patterson footage, which is...
les stroud
No, no.
Bigfoot came from the turning over the construction equipment and all the tracks that were found.
joe rogan
Mm-hmm.
les stroud
And that there was a fake guy who came out and said, but when you look at what was done there, the faker...
See, there's a problem is when the fakers are faking, you know what I'm saying?
Like someone, oh, I did that hoax, that was all me.
It's like, no, it wasn't, man.
You were drunk in Wisconsin at the time.
It had nothing to do with you.
But guys come out and claim to do the...
And now that really messes up the water because now you've got someone who's really, really just trying to find out.
And the hoaxers are hoaxing, you know, themselves.
And they didn't actually hoax it.
And that's the stuff that's messed up.
So, like, the first thing that guy, people point back to that, I can't remember the guy's name, who had the tracks to show.
Here's his wooden tracks.
He says, I did those tracks in that time, in the 50s.
Actually, he didn't.
And he couldn't have pulled off.
What they found.
Like, you would have needed 20 men and major machines and a big conspiracy just to make a bunch of tracks going up into the bush.
It's not realistic.
That's what I'm about a lot, is the whole thing is, well, it's a hoax, it's a hoax, it's a person, it's a hoax.
Hang on a second.
How many people are out in the woods dedicating their life to sticking a frickin' track in the mud in the middle of nowhere in the Sierra Nevadas or the Rocky Mountains?
They're not doing it.
Nobody's got time for that shit.
joe rogan
You know, a better argument, I think, is that the Native Americans had over 200 different names for this thing.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
That's what's more interesting to me, because they don't really have a lot of mythological animals in the Native American lore.
There's not a lot of fake animals.
I mean, there's a few things that they believe in.
They had some weird gods that they worshipped, and they believed they could dance and make it rain.
Thunderbirds.
But, you know, the Thunderbirds thing is a weird one, too, man, because we know that there were certain species of bird that were enormous that went extinct.
We also know there's a thing called the Terrorbird that lived before the last Ice Age went away.
I believe they got them down to, like, 10,000-plus years ago.
So it was like, you're talking about the Pleistocene, right?
You're talking about when the saber-toothed tigers existed.
les stroud
Giant sloth.
joe rogan
Yeah, woolly mammoths.
Well, they had this fucking bird, this giant seven-foot-tall bird that was, like, predatory, that would run around.
And there's one of them called the Shoebill that lives in the Congo that they think was like...
Have you ever seen that thing?
les stroud
No, not the Shoebill.
joe rogan
Christ, you got to see this fucking thing.
This is a what a creepy ass bird.
It's called a shoebill.
It's a five foot tall prehistoric bird with a giant face like a fucking hatchet in its face.
It's got this giant like huge bill and it's like it catches fish.
There's this crazy BBC documentary they did in the Congo.
Look at that goddamn thing.
There's better ones of it though.
brian redban
That's like a dick.
joe rogan
There's better ones.
Pull up, I'm pretty sure it's Shoebill.
Shoebill, Bird, Africa.
There it is.
Below that.
That one right there.
Below it.
Yeah, that one.
No, no, no.
All the way, yeah.
les stroud
The one in the middle.
joe rogan
It was jacking that bird.
Yeah, that one that you were just clicking on.
That fucking thing.
Look at that thing.
Make that bigger, Jamie.
Look at that goddamn creepy-ass animal.
brian redban
That's a duck.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's killing a duck.
brian redban
You hate ducks.
joe rogan
Now, go back and there's another one in that series of images, right below that, where you see that thing face on.
Look at that, where it's looking at you head on, where you see it's Bill.
unidentified
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
What a creepy fuck that is.
That's a real bird.
What a creepy goddamn dinosaur.
That thing's five feet tall, and it walks around like a fucking, like a fake animal.
brian redban
It's like Dark Crystal.
joe rogan
And it jacks things in the water.
It's a horrible looking monster.
les stroud
You already tapped into something you're really super right about, the whole Native American perspective on Bigfoot and all that.
If you go up into Winnipeg, and I was up there with them up there, they've got like their, you know, their seven teachings and stuff, and they're based on the raven and the wolf and the fox and the bear.
And right in the middle, It's Sabe, Bigfoot.
And then the eagle and the otter.
It's just like, it's not like, oh yeah, and there's a Thunderbird, there's a mythological...
No, no, it's just seven normal animals, and in that span of seven normal animals, right in the middle is Bigfoot, what they consider to be a normal species that's there.
They don't make the difference, they don't differentiate.
joe rogan
Right now there's someone on the subway going, fuck you, Joe Rogan, I'm shutting this podcast off.
Listen to me, man!
We're not saying that Bigfoot's real.
That's not what I'm saying.
What I'm saying is that goddamn animal was definitely real.
We don't know if it's real.
les stroud
What are you saying?
joe rogan
But we know that goddamn animal, that Gigantopithecus was real, and here's where it's crazy.
It was real in the exact area we absolutely know the human beings migrated from.
They migrated from Asia across the Bering Strait when it was a landmass, where you can cross it walking.
They came to North America, and where an animal like that would exist would be in the heavily dense forest of the Pacific Northwest, which is exactly where they would come across.
They would come across through Alaska to the Pacific Northwest, and that's where you hear about them.
It doesn't make sense That you would have a real animal that lived in a real place that you absolutely know existed, coexisted with human beings that were just like you and I. We have been in this form essentially, the scientists believe, for 250,000 plus years.
So 100,000 years ago, they know this thing lived, and they know it lived where people were walking around, and they were walking all the way to America.
les stroud
So the question is, are they still there?
joe rogan
That's the question.
les stroud
One other thing, another question I'd like to ask, what do you do with someone who you respect, you admire, they're normal, they're sane, and then they say to you, look man, I don't care what you think.
I'm just telling you what I saw.
And I know what I saw.
And that happens a thousand freakin' times.
joe rogan
People do drugs.
People have episodes.
les stroud
People have delusional, mass delusion.
joe rogan
They have psychotic episodes.
les stroud
Or not.
joe rogan
Or not.
Or they want you to love them, so they just want to talk about Bigfoot.
And you go, really, man?
We gotta go over to Mike's house and tell us about Bigfoot.
les stroud
These are people with nothing to gain, lots to lose, no money to make.
In fact, half the time you can't even drag the story out of them.
Like, okay, fine.
Please.
joe rogan
That's like girls who don't pretend they don't want to fuck.
unidentified
Exactly.
brian redban
I have a couple of crazy ex-girlfriends that will tell you some stories.
unidentified
I've never actually done this before.
You don't believe them.
joe rogan
I can't believe I'm doing this.
Well, how do you know how to do that with my ass?
They know things!
They've been there!
They're liars!
This guy's a Bigfoot liar!
les stroud
I told you, he's king of the analogy.
joe rogan
Listen, man, I think it's entirely possible that there is an undiscovered primate.
les stroud
You're fascinated by this.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
les stroud
You were supposed to come out with me, though, but you pursued it.
joe rogan
Not possible.
I'm not pussied out.
unidentified
No, seriously.
joe rogan
I just wanted to give you some time on your own, see if you found it, and then if you didn't, I confirmed my suspicions.
Here's the problem, man.
These guys that go looking for it, they're almost all full of shit.
And a lot of them are nice guys, but they're true believers.
They're true believers in a sense where they're not looking at things rationally.
They're not looking at things objectively.
les stroud
Right, and so that's what I do with Survivorman...
Bigfoot.
unidentified
That's Freud.
joe rogan
That's the Guinness talking.
unidentified
Guinness will pull the truth right out of your bones.
les stroud
So that's what I'm doing with Survivor Man.
Bigfoot.
unidentified
Bigfoot.
les stroud
Is I'm saying, okay, alright, okay.
You've got Bigfoot and some alien spaceships.
Leave me in that valley overnight, couple of nights, let's see what happens.
You've got Gigantopithecus and a herd of 12 of them.
Okay, leave me in the valley, let me see what happens.
joe rogan
Let's cut to the short and curlies.
What have you seen?
What is the craziest shit that you've seen?
What is the one thing you've seen that you think you could bring up?
les stroud
You're going to have to watch the episode in a way.
joe rogan
Get the fuck out of here, dude.
I'm not going to...
les stroud
Alright, so on one of the episodes...
Alright, so here, alright.
On one of the episodes...
joe rogan
I'm going to have to light a joint.
I can't believe you said that.
les stroud
Alright, I'm going to tell you.
So you don't have to watch the episode.
Okay, so spoiler alert on the episode.
You watch the episode where I'm going to go up to the top of the mountain and radio.
joe rogan
And that night...
Everybody, here's spoiler alert.
Finding Bigfoot ain't finding shit.
There's a spoiler alert.
les stroud
If I had for you the definitive footage, here it is.
Obviously by now I would have done a press conference.
joe rogan
Exactly.
That's why that footage is bullshit.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Here, eat that.
Take a hit of that.
It'll tell you the truth.
It'll talk to you.
brian redban
When you're surviving, couldn't you just wrap up food in plastic and then eat it and then poop it out and eat it later?
Like, take the plastic off and eat it?
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
brian redban
It seems like it could work.
les stroud
That's a technique I've never thought of.
brian redban
I mean, if you're going to be on your own for five days, you could eat a bunch of food, but wrap it up in plastic, and then later poop it out, then untake it out of the plastic.
les stroud
But then how would you get the nutrients from the food in the first place when it goes through your stomach and gets a piece of plastic?
joe rogan
What is this poop it out?
I don't understand.
You eat it, and then you poop it out.
brian redban
Meaning, like, before you leave for your trip, go get stuffed, like Boston Market or something.
joe rogan
Don't ruin this conversation.
Don't ruin this with your poorly thought out ideas.
brian redban
And then eat a bunch of plastic.
joe rogan
Don't tell them.
Stop.
Can't tell a guy to eat his poop.
brian redban
No, no, no.
joe rogan
I'm not saying poop.
brian redban
I'm not saying eat poop.
I'm saying eat a big meal before you're about to leave.
les stroud
Johnny Appleseed would eat his own poop.
joe rogan
Yeah, they call it Second Harvest.
It's what Native Americans call it.
brian redban
They maybe take a bunch of protein bars, wrap them up in plastic, eat it, and then poop it out in a couple days, and then unwrap the plastic, then eat it.
joe rogan
What kind of shit are you taking?
You really think a fucking whole protein bar in plastic can make it through your digestive tract?
les stroud
You're gonna die!
And why would I just carry the bars in my backpack and just eat them three days later?
joe rogan
That is like the poorest understanding of the human digestive tract ever exhibited on a podcast.
I was trying to figure out what you were saying.
I thought you were saying eating poop.
You're not talking about a little baggie of heroin that a drug mule swallows.
brian redban
Right, that's what I was thinking.
joe rogan
That's not going to make you survive.
You'll get another hour's worth of energy from that little heroin bag.
brian redban
What about petite fillets?
joe rogan
8 ounces wrapped in plastic.
You're going to die.
People get diverticulitis because they get a fucking watermelon seed.
les stroud
That's a big freaking word, diverticulitis.
That's like mayonnaise.
That's like a 75 cent word.
joe rogan
Well, Brock Lesnar from the UFC got diverticulitis.
Serious operation when they removed 12 inches of his colon.
I found out about it, I looked into it, and I thought it was just because of eating meat, but Anthony Bourdain informed me that you could eat a seed, like you get like a sunflower seed or something stuck inside your tract, your digestive tract, and it starts an abscess and you get sick.
Yeah, you can die from a fucking seed getting stuck.
He's like, all kinds of stuff gets stuck in there.
So it's not necessarily just protein.
There's also contributing genetic effect.
les stroud
So Anthony Bourdain is like a GI tract doctor.
No.
joe rogan
You can't eat a petite filet mignon and shit it out in the woods, son.
That's all I'm saying.
You gotta have to have a better strategy than that.
That's the worst way to cheat ever.
brian redban
I guess I was thinking of Survivor Island, like trying to find a way to cheat.
joe rogan
You can't.
You can't cheat.
les stroud
Just carry it in your backpack.
joe rogan
You look like you're pregnant if you had enough food for a day.
All this food packed up in your body.
What kind of calorie consumption are you thinking you're gonna have?
You know, you're going to go on a diet.
That's one thing you could do.
You can get fat as fuck and then go out there and just live off your fat for a few days.
That would actually work.
You could.
les stroud
I never ever, on all the Survivor Man shows, I never ever prepared for the show by either trying to trim down and making my stomach smaller or by bulking up and having all the extra.
I always figure, well, then that's not even realistic either.
Whenever I start something, it's got to be like I just, you know, was going somewhere else and got lost.
joe rogan
You're too honest for television.
We can't use you anymore.
unidentified
We can't use you here at the Super Pseudo Science Channel.
les stroud
You have no idea what you just said.
I mean, that is one of my...
I've been told before, you know, Les, that's a bit too earnest.
I'm like, oh, God, you killed me.
joe rogan
Okay, now let's get back to the short and curlies.
What have you seen?
What have you seen?
les stroud
So on the top of the mountain in Radium...
joe rogan
Radium?
Where's that?
les stroud
Radium Springs, British Columbia.
First time in my life ever.
joe rogan
That's a big area, right?
Big high sightings.
les stroud
No, it's a small area.
But big after sightings, yeah.
First time ever, first of all, I've never claimed this.
I saw big freaking lights in the sky I couldn't explain.
I'm like, look, I'm going, what the?
There they are.
Just the whole classic UFO thing.
I was like, what the?
I've never seen anything like that.
I don't claim anything like that.
joe rogan
This is while you were filming the show.
les stroud
So this is while I'm on the top of the mountain while I'm filming the show.
I'm looking at these big-ass lights, way bigger.
If it was a plane, it was bigger than the Concorde.
joe rogan
Whoa.
les stroud
And they just hovered there.
And they're gone like that.
Just gone.
Then that same night...
And some other shit happened.
I woke up, and I swear I was in my mommy's sleeping bag, and I swear something was sitting on top of me, and I couldn't move.
I tried to move, and it wasn't like, you know, you wake up in a half-dream, arm you were sleeping on is, like, all frozen, and you're like, ah, shit, a wolf's eating my arm.
No, this is, like, the arm on top.
joe rogan
Who the fuck has dreams about wolves eating their arms?
les stroud
Don't you?
joe rogan
You've been sleeping in the woods alone too much, man.
That is one thing I've never dreamed about getting eaten by a wolf.
les stroud
You've got to come out and do one of these shows with me.
You'll dream about wolves eating your arms.
joe rogan
Damn.
Hopefully, no.
I don't want that dream.
les stroud
It's not a good dream, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, the problem is that actually can happen.
Things go horribly wrong.
les stroud
Wolf can eat your arm.
joe rogan
Have you ever been surrounded by wolves while you're out there?
les stroud
I have.
Yes, I have.
joe rogan
Yeah?
les stroud
Yep.
I've had them.
I can see them.
There's one.
There's another.
joe rogan
And what were they doing?
They were checking you out.
les stroud
Following, checking you out.
It happens.
unidentified
Dude.
les stroud
Yeah, they check you out as a pack.
joe rogan
And you're by yourself.
les stroud
It's scary.
joe rogan
You know what?
les stroud
Better than that, not even a week ago today, I had to spend the majority of the night in a tree because it was literally, I'm not sensationalizing, there was a man-eating tiger down below me on the ground.
What in the fuck?
Less than a week ago.
joe rogan
What?
les stroud
India.
joe rogan
Oh my god, dude.
les stroud
I did my first Survivorman shoot in India.
joe rogan
What the fuck are you doing?
brian redban
Fuck that noise.
joe rogan
Oh my god!
Were you in the Sundar Pans?
les stroud
I was up in the Jim Corbett Park area, northern India, north of Delhi, about a five-hour drive north of Delhi, and into the forest there, and I was like, you know, this area's not that bad.
That's when I got there.
After I was there...
I was told that I was dropped in the densest population of tigers in the world.
Royal Bengal tiger, densest population in the world.
And then she says to me, this is the madam, and she goes, well, and then the one tiger we have has killed 21 people this year so far.
But it's okay, she only recently started eating the corpses.
I'm like, you gotta be kidding me.
And they told me this after I got out.
And then I saw a tiger on the first night.
On the second night I heard it growl.
I had to go up into a tree.
And I spent the majority of the night.
And it's all filmed.
Like, I'm filming myself for Survivorman.
I got the whole selfie thing going on.
And I'm like, alright.
And I had to, like, pull my camera up with a rope.
And I'm holding the camera.
And I'm like, okay, I'm stuck.
joe rogan
You slept in the tree?
unidentified
I'm stuck.
les stroud
And I didn't sleep.
I just sat and waited and waited and waited.
joe rogan
See, that to me is so much more interesting than that bullshit monkey fake thing.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's real shit.
les stroud
And Bigfoot, yeah.
joe rogan
That's real shit.
I mean, that's a real animal.
I mean, if there was a Bigfoot and there was also a tiger, okay?
If these absolutely were real things.
I put that up on my Twitter the other day.
That's a classic video.
Somebody tweeted it to me and it just...
les stroud
It's the one thing I'm the most afraid of, actually, is tigers.
Let's look at that one more time.
joe rogan
Show that again, Jamie.
This is a video.
We're looking at folks who are just listening to this.
There's a crazy video of this tiger flying through the air and attacking this guy who's on this elephant.
He's sitting on the top of the elephant, and the tiger just decides, fuck this dude.
And he jumps up through the air.
unidentified
Wow.
Flies!
les stroud
It's lucky he didn't get gored by the bull elephant with the tusks.
joe rogan
Well, the elephant didn't want to have nothing to do with that fucking cat, but the guy got fucked up.
When that thing claws his arm, it tore his arm apart.
Those are razor blades at the end of a super powerful predator.
les stroud
That's what was basically 70 yards away from me.
joe rogan
Dude, what the fuck, man?
I can't believe you didn't fully research this.
unidentified
I know, what the fuck?
I thought I did.
joe rogan
That's like one of the worst fucking camping ideas ever.
les stroud
When you go to India, you renegotiate everything you do every hour.
Every hour is a new renegotiation.
unidentified
Really?
les stroud
How so?
No, we're going to have, like, this person's going to be there, they're going to lead you in an hour later.
So, this person's not here, but we're going to, my buddy, my cousin's going to lead you in an hour later.
My cousin couldn't make it, and you're not allowed to go in anyway, because the government says, hey, it's just like, every hour!
Was going like that.
So get this, I go out.
joe rogan
They probably think you're crazy.
les stroud
They do think you're nuts.
So I went out to do my first night of Survivorman.
Alone.
I'm out in the jungle.
I'm out there.
And I'm like, I'm filming myself.
I'm like, alright, you know, what I'm going to have to do is probably stay here and stay here for the night sort of thing, get a fire going.
I'm doing the whole thing.
And I hear some noise, and I go back about 400 or 500 yards, and in the middle of the jungle, the fucking forest, 50 people show up and have a Lord Shiva rave, and all of a sudden I hear, and I'm literally, and all of a sudden I hear, and I'm literally, so I'm in the middle of the forest surviving right now.
unidentified
Wow.
les stroud
It was the most bizarre thing, and it turns out this one time of the whole year, in this remote little place where there's this stone in the forest, it's the Lord Shiva stone, all these people, like 50 people on motorcycles showed up.
And I'm like, so I'm gonna walk deeper that way because there's tigers and at least they're quiet.
joe rogan
You know what's really bizarre is that there's a big push to save the tiger in India.
There's a big push to make sure that the murderers of humans have healthy populations.
We're scared.
We don't want them to go away.
les stroud
Nah, come on.
It's weird.
joe rogan
It's weird.
I'm not saying that we should encourage extinction, because they are, even though they're terrifying, and they're predatory, and they're dangerous, they're a beautiful, amazing life form.
I mean, I don't want tigers to go extinct.
I don't want to be anywhere near them, but I don't want them to go extinct, because I think they're fascinating.
brian redban
They're great.
joe rogan
They're fascinating.
But you don't go camping.
Where they eat?
Come on.
les stroud
See, that's the thing.
It's like, you've got to allow the tiger to be the tiger.
If you go and you sleep in an area that's rich with polar bears or tigers and you have a tiger or polar bear problem, uh...
Right?
It's like, well, why am I having this issue with polar bears?
Because you're sleeping in polar bear territory, idiot.
joe rogan
They said that there's an area in India called the Sundarbans, and there's an issue with the water, because the water's got too much salt in it, so the animals are irritated all the time, and there's a lot of typhoons in that area, so a lot of people die, and they get washed into the river, and the tigers develop a taste for human flesh.
So it's one of the rare places where they're actively hunting people on a regular basis.
In the last 200 years...
les stroud
It's not that rare.
joe rogan
No, it's not rare at all.
les stroud
I just got back from India less than five, six days ago.
It's not...
The tiger attacks are normal.
joe rogan
Super common.
les stroud
They're normal.
joe rogan
It's their way of life.
They're thinking about what life is.
It's so different than ours.
At any moment, they get snatched away by a monster.
At any moment, you're walking from a lake or a river to your family in a hut.
And you hear a twig snap, and you turn, and you see this 800-pound thing already in the air on its way to you.
And you know that's a wrap, son.
That's all, folks.
les stroud
That's life in the bush and life in the jungle, man.
joe rogan
You feel that fucking blade slice into your jugular, crush down on your vertebrae.
brian redban
I'd wear deodorant.
les stroud
Vertible.
joe rogan
Yeah, I made up a new word.
les stroud
It's vertible.
Goddamn, dude.
joe rogan
Now's not the time for grammar, please.
I'm not talking about tigers.
les stroud
Worse thing you can do is someone correct their grammar.
joe rogan
You slept in a fucking tree.
les stroud
It was messed up.
joe rogan
You literally stayed up there in a tree.
When do you feel confident enough to climb down?
unidentified
Shh.
joe rogan
Fuck.
les stroud
Alright, so you know why I knew the tiger was there?
The monkeys started going crazy.
The peacocks started going crazy.
They all react.
They're all like, holy shit!
And then all the monkeys go up high, and they're like, and you know, and you're looking, and you know nothing's going on over there.
And there's a tiger slowly moving through.
You don't hear any twigs snap for a tiger.
joe rogan
Do you see it?
les stroud
I saw it, yeah.
The night before, I saw it go across the field.
That night, I didn't see it.
I heard it growl, which was even scarier.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
les stroud
The monkeys all saw it.
And you have to be at least 12 feet up the tree because they can jump and kind of reach up to 12 feet.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
Yeah, there's a video of them attacking some meat.
They hold it up in the air, and the tigers leap up to get it.
And you watch it, you're like, what?
Is that possible?
Pull that video up, Jamie.
It's the most ridiculous video.
There's this guy who holds this meat up, and this tiger just does something that you just go, oh...
I never internalized what it looks like when they jump 12 feet in the air.
Watch this.
They hold this meat up.
Look at this thing.
This thing fucking flies.
unidentified
Look at that.
joe rogan
Spring flies.
les stroud
And grab.
joe rogan
Its head is like 14 feet in the air.
les stroud
That's why I climbed at least 12 feet up the tree.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
Watch that again.
That's insane.
That animal is just...
What it can do with its body to kill things.
I mean, that's what it's designed for.
unidentified
It's powerful.
joe rogan
But the fact that they're sitting there, these two giant cats are sitting there watching this person feed them.
Like, what kind of bizarro world is that?
les stroud
That's just habituation.
joe rogan
They're fenced in, and this guy is holding this thing in a crane up in the air, and the tiger jumps up and grabs it.
les stroud
It's insane.
They're powerful, man.
unidentified
Fuck!
brian redban
Now, you don't have weapons?
les stroud
No, no.
unidentified
Firecrackers?
les stroud
There was an area I was in, and they...
joe rogan
Do you use the force?
les stroud
Well, of course.
The force is always there.
They wouldn't let me go into an area with an armed guard.
I was like, dude, I'm like, survivor man, I gotta go out, I gotta do this thing, and I gotta be alone.
We're not gonna let you do that.
And I wasn't allowed to be out there without an armed guard.
So they had, and I was like, maybe a quarter mile away, was actually a pair of armed guards on either side.
joe rogan
A quarter mile?
unidentified
I know!
joe rogan
Those are the wackest guards ever!
unidentified
That's what I thought!
joe rogan
Bitch, you gotta be like three feet away.
unidentified
Exactly!
les stroud
I'm thinking if this thing's 75 yards from me and it pounces on me, how fast are you gonna get here?
joe rogan
A quarter of a mile is a long time!
It takes a long time to get on foot from a quarter of a mile.
les stroud
It does, yeah.
joe rogan
How fast can you run a mile?
Like a really fast mile is like a four-minute mile, right?
That's like the thing that no one thought you could ever do.
So one-fourth of that is a minute.
So stop and think about that.
Yeah, but just stop and think about a minute of running.
That's what it is.
If you're like the fastest guy ever, you run for a minute to get to you.
What the fuck a tiger can do to you in 59, 58, 57, 56, 55. You're fucking torn to charades!
It's like you with a roach.
Like, literally as ferocious as you would tear a roach's body apart, that's what a tiger could do to you.
les stroud
It's insane.
They're powerful.
joe rogan
And you're sleeping above, or hanging out in a tree above it.
les stroud
Yeah, and of course, you know, I'm going to give a super shout-out to the fact that they're actually 30% increasing in population in this one area, which is phenomenal.
Because they are beautiful.
It's awesome.
joe rogan
I think there's enough of them.
unidentified
How about we just have two of them and make sure they fuck?
les stroud
We need more of them.
joe rogan
We need more of them.
Jesus.
les stroud
I want more.
There's more Bigfoot than there are tigers.
joe rogan
Oh, well, I don't know about that.
Because I've seen a tiger.
I've seen it with my own eyes at the zoo.
You and this Bigfoot thing.
brian redban
What if they dropped off one tiger a year in Los Angeles, but they don't tell you where it's at?
joe rogan
Well, they kind of have mountain lions wandering around.
They usually don't fuck anybody up.
les stroud
I gotta get this guy out in the bush.
joe rogan
No, you need to have some shit that's not fake, like that guy with his monkey face.
les stroud
Well, you know my shit's not fake, so...
joe rogan
Your shit is not fake.
You wouldn't fake anything.
les stroud
Remember, I texted you and said, I'm shooting the Bigfoot shows, you want to come out?
I was tempted.
I would find the spot and say, this is where they say all this shit happens.
We go, we sit up, we sit by the fire with a case against us, and we keep the fire going.
Stay up all night.
And in the morning, it's like, that 3 o'clock in the morning shit was insane!
Or, well, that was nothing.
We told a lot of stories, and now I'm really tired.
joe rogan
Yeah, I get it, man.
I just hate feeling like an asshole.
And if I was out there wandering around looking for Bigfoot and I found nothing, I'd be like, I could have been at home with my kids.
I could have been writing jokes.
I could have been working out.
I could have been, you know, doing something smart.
brian redban
How about like Survivorman Myrtle Beach?
joe rogan
We're trying to find bikers.
Can we find them?
les stroud
Survivor man, spring break, it could be like in a bar trying to build shelters out of bar stools.
joe rogan
Again, what is it that we need to find this fucking thing?
Like if you really stop and think about like how amazing killer whales are and we know that they're a real animal that you can go observe.
They speak in this crazy language they don't understand, that we don't understand rather.
They have these families, they stay with these pods for life, they're very close to each other, they have Different dialects.
They start observing the sounds that one group makes and it's different from the sounds another group in another part of the world makes.
Like, they're amazing.
Like, they're way more fat.
They kill sharks, man.
They kill dolphins.
They eat dolphins.
Like, they're ruthless, but they're also beautiful.
And they're really fucking smart.
They're really smart.
Like in a weird, crazy way that just doesn't jive with our idea of, you know, like, oh, he doesn't know how to play poker, fuck him.
You know, he doesn't know how to drive a car, he's a pussy, he's an idiot.
You know, they have some weird, crazy, life-in-the-ocean intelligence.
They have intelligence where it's applicable in their environment.
They don't need to know how to type.
Okay, they don't know how to speak Spanish.
They don't have to.
No one's Spanish underwater.
They speak dolphin.
They speak whale.
They know all that shit.
les stroud
So why Bigfoot?
unidentified
Yeah, but Bigfoot is like, if he didn't think it was real, he's like, what is he doing?
joe rogan
He's knocking on wood and shit.
Hanging out there, hiding his shit.
Taking holes.
Hiding his logs.
No one can find Bigfoot shit?
You can find bear shit.
You won't find bear bodies.
But if you tell me you don't find bear shit, it's because you're in a place that doesn't have any bear.
Right?
Where's the Bigfoot shit?
He's burying it, man.
That's his big trick.
He doesn't save surfers.
He doesn't kill whales.
Have you ever seen a killer whale demonstrate to its young how to kill a seal?
They show them how to kill it.
They get them up on ice shelves.
They tip the ice shelves and have them slide down.
les stroud
How do you know Bigfoot's not taking his young ice shelves?
joe rogan
I don't know that he's not, but we don't have any footage.
We have no evidence.
But we have all this evidence of these amazing killer whales that, not only that, they're smart as shit and they know we killed them.
They know we killed them and they still talk to us.
They know we killed them.
They have to know by now.
If they really communicate and they can express, I mean, they might not totally get it or their concept of life and death might be really weird, like way different than ours is.
It's real possible.
But they're so nice to us.
Killer whales don't kill people.
They're not attacking surfers.
They're not fighting back because they found out that they got this thing.
No, the ones that are in SeaWorld fight back.
But the other ones out in the wild, they don't go attack people.
les stroud
Yeah, there's been some rogue stories for sure.
joe rogan
A bunch of pussies who got bumped.
They got chest bumped by a big fucking killer whale.
Nobody got eaten.
Nobody came back with no legs.
It's not what they do, you know?
And that's an amazing real-life animal.
And if we found out that Bigfoot was real, and we go, oh, wow, it's like a big orangutan, but it walks on two legs.
That ain't shit compared to a killer whale.
It's not shit.
It's not shit.
It's a wood-knocking asshole who hides his shit.
That's what it is.
les stroud
It's a good point.
What you're basically saying is...
joe rogan
You're wasting your time up there in the woods?
les stroud
No.
joe rogan
With a guy who's wearing a rubber mask?
les stroud
That could be.
brian redban
At least have a girl Bigfoot with Bigfoot titties on your season finale.
les stroud
They have that.
The Patterson footage.
That's what it is.
It's a female.
You haven't seen it.
joe rogan
It's so real.
les stroud
It's got titties.
joe rogan
Do you not know about Bigfoot come to me?
Like these Bigfoot erotica novels that were published on Amazon.com?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Come to Bigfoot?
I think it's called Come to Bigfoot.
Jamie Seavey had pulled up this title.
It became a huge bestseller.
Apparently, in this PC world that we live in, in this weird world of sanitized language and social justice warriors, there's still women out there that want to get fucked by the biggest monkey they can find.
brian redban
Hair fetish, man.
joe rogan
It's not a hair fetish.
It's a primate fetish.
Like, they want to get gorilla fucked by something that doesn't even speak their language.
And there's women that are into this idea of erotica.
Obviously, totally in the fantasy.
I'm not saying they really want to get fucked by these guys.
But I'm saying...
But in the fantasies, man, these things sell.
So there's women that have a fantasy of actually getting fucked by a Sasquatch, by a giant, just like, it's overwhelming, it just takes you...
There's women who have this, they actually have a fantasy of getting fucked by something that can't talk to them, it doesn't have any morals, it doesn't have any ethics.
les stroud
It's coming for Bigfoot.
It's coming for Bigfoot.
brian redban
Look at that author.
joe rogan
I love her.
Virginia Wade, you're awesome.
I hope it's parody.
But I hope it's not, too.
I hope it's not.
les stroud
Maybe it's real life stories.
joe rogan
Look, man, we don't know.
Look, there's shit that guys like that girls can't figure out.
Why should we be able to figure out that there's some women that really want to get fucked by Bigfoot?
And even if it's only ten of them, what if there's a lot of women that are listening right now?
You fucking asshole.
You don't understand women.
Women don't want to get fucked.
No, listen.
My friend, you don't want...
I almost said sweetie.
You don't want to get fucked by Bigfoot.
I'm arguing with a person who's not even real.
You don't want to get fucked by Bigfoot, but there's women that do.
Or at least they want to read about it.
It might not be...
Look, there's some guys that are into dressing like mascots and having sex with other men.
That's a real thing, okay?
There's some people that are going to be into getting fucked by Bigfoot.
It's not a bad thing, goddammit.
les stroud
Mrs. Henderson from Harry and the Hendersons.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, look at that.
The thing was living with the family.
How do you think that thing was going to go down?
Exactly.
How long is he going to tolerate that guy just banging that chick?
Is someone going to bring in a female Bigfoot to satisfy him?
Do we have rub maps for Bigfoot?
Yeah, same thing.
There's no...
Yeah, if you're gonna have a Bigfoot, you better find a fucking female Bigfoot for him, because otherwise the reason why he's come down to the village is he's tired of looking for females.
les stroud
I mean, you already alluded to the whole Native American thing, and there are lots of stories in Native American lore of the Native women being scooped up, picked up.
joe rogan
And then there's a lot of dudes who don't want to admit their chick ran off with another dude, so they make up some shit about Bigfoot stealing their woman, because this is the manliest man around.
Like, how could she, look at my most offensive Native American accent, how could she go off with other man?
Must be Sasquatch!
Must be Bigfoot, come down, fuck my woman, because no man can compete with my hog.
That's probably what happened.
That's probably some excuses.
les stroud
It would have sounded like that.
joe rogan
It's like a fish story.
You know?
unidentified
Dude, I had it at the boat.
joe rogan
It was at least a hundred pounds bigger than the world record.
unidentified
At least!
I'm not exaggerating!
les stroud
I had her in my teepee.
joe rogan
Yeah.
les stroud
No, seriously.
joe rogan
Bro.
les stroud
And Bigfoot.
joe rogan
Bigfoot stole her from the tip of my dick.
My dick touched her click, and then she shot out like she was in the Matrix, like she was attached to rubber bands.
She went flying through the air.
Bigfoot had grabbed her.
les stroud
Only you could have taken this to this place.
joe rogan
It was on this place.
Because isn't this place a fantasy?
Because until there's a photo of Bigfoot, until there's DNA that makes sense, I had that guy, Todd Disotel, who's a biologist from, I think, NYU. I think it's NYU. He's in New York City.
Very, very brilliant guy.
And he was also on that spike show where they went with Dean Cain.
He went looking for Bigfoot I didn't watch our show the bounty I can't watch them anymore But talking to that dude like he's like no one's brought in anything man There's not one piece of DNA and he explained how all this stuff gets contaminated Like when you have someone pick something up and they put it in a bag in the hand to someone Oh, it's some sort of human DNA.
You can't do that because someone touched it and And when people touch things, you leave DNA on shit.
You know, when your sweaty ass picks up some hairs in the woods and you drop them into it, you're not supposed to touch that with your body.
If you do, you've contaminated it.
You should have rubber gloves on, you should have tongs, and you should have a direct chain of custody between touching that fucking thing and it being in a laboratory being analyzed.
And if you don't, your studies are bullshit.
And this guy explained this to me in no uncertain terms.
And when you look at it that way, you go, okay, that means none of it's real.
Like, no one's found anything.
They've never found a bone.
They've never found a piece of hair.
They've never found Bigfoot shit.
They've never found one thing that you could say, this makes Bigfoot a real animal.
So all you're going on is stories, and all you're going on is the knowledge that an animal like that used to exist, and the knowledge that they found another unknown primate in the island of Flores that was only 10,000 plus years ago.
I think like maybe 13,000 years ago.
It's in that range, which is incredibly recent.
Like really, really, really recent for a three-foot tall little monkey person, you know, that used tools but had a small brain.
Like, you know, Can you imagine those things running around today?
Weird little freaky fucking half monkey people.
That'd be cool.
Oh, it'd be so scary though.
They'd probably steal your baby and eat it.
brian redban
Such a fetish to fuck though.
joe rogan
Ooh, you would fuck it, wouldn't you?
brian redban
Yes.
joe rogan
Come for tiny Sasquatch Hobbit people.
Come for the orang pen deck.
That doesn't have the same sort of rhyme to it.
les stroud
No, it doesn't.
brian redban
Have you ever fucked an animal before you ate it?
joe rogan
Hey, easy dude.
les stroud
Before what?
brian redban
Before you ate it?
les stroud
You didn't see that?
The outtakes?
joe rogan
That's not...
Listen, this is not appropriate.
brian redban
I mean, you're alone in the woods.
No one's looking.
les stroud
This sounds like a confession.
Honestly, that's what I'm thinking.
joe rogan
Let's get back to Bigfoot.
Okay.
What is the one thing?
You've done the show, or you had your experience outside the show, and then you went and did the show.
What is the one thing, while you were on the show, that really gave you pause, that really made you think?
les stroud
We were videotaping on a trigger motion...
A motion-triggered camera.
It's all set up.
Put bait out.
joe rogan
Like a trail cam type thing?
les stroud
Trail cam.
Put bait out.
And watched from one clip to the next clip, the bait, all of it, two chocolate bars and an apple, in a wild frame field, disappear.
Just disappear.
It's on the show.
I have no answer for that whatsoever.
A mouse would have, this is a really sensitive half-second triggers, a mouse would have set that off, and besides it had like many, many feet.
joe rogan
Can it be paused?
les stroud
Oh, I pause it in the show.
joe rogan
Can it be paused?
Like, could someone walk up to it and shut its operation off momentarily, go over there, grab the candy bar, walk out of frame, and then turn it back on?
That's not possible?
les stroud
No, it's not possible.
joe rogan
Why isn't it possible?
It doesn't work that way?
les stroud
Because I was alone.
I was on the top of a mountain.
joe rogan
I'm not saying, I didn't mean is it possible in this circumstance.
I mean, is it possible with the operation of that trail cam to pause it?
les stroud
No, because what happens is, no, it's not.
joe rogan
It's not.
les stroud
Because to turn the camera off, you have to open it up.
The second you move it, you're now being filmed.
joe rogan
Okay.
les stroud
I had another scene where a black bear actually came and took my camera, and it's all on camera.
You see his mouth biting the lens.
You see him pull the camera off the tree as he's walking.
You can kind of see the area of his limb just moving as he's walking.
joe rogan
And a lot of those you can set up to send the data to Wi-Fi, right?
les stroud
You can, actually, yeah.
joe rogan
And some of them will send you, like, text messages when they have images, when they see something, they see movement.
They'll send you a text message that alerts you that you have movement on your cameras.
les stroud
Yep.
joe rogan
So, you didn't get any of those readings, but you did get the candy bars disappearing?
les stroud
Disappearing.
joe rogan
Do you think the bright lights in the sky stole your candy?
les stroud
I don't know, maybe I'm not sure.
joe rogan
What did you think happened, for real?
les stroud
For real, I can't, I haven't got a freaking clue.
brian redban
Is it infrared camera?
les stroud
Yes, it is.
joe rogan
So, it would be a crazy coincidence if the camera malfunctioned at the exact moment that someone came along and stole the candy.
That's impossible.
les stroud
It's impossible.
joe rogan
But is there a way...
les stroud
It's on the top of a mountain alone.
joe rogan
Right.
But if, say, some hoaxer dude knew you were going and was slick about it and was, like, real, like, stealthy...
les stroud
Not possible.
joe rogan
Most likely not possible.
Most likely.
But is it possible, is there a device that you could use that would freeze the operation of the camera?
Is there some sort of a magnetic field that you could maybe generate, like something powerful that would cause it to disrupt momentarily enough where you could run over and grab the candy?
les stroud
If you were Bigfoot.
joe rogan
Only if you're Bigfoot?
How come only if you're Bigfoot?
les stroud
Not only, I didn't say only.
joe rogan
Okay.
If you're Bigfoot.
les stroud
I said if you're Bigfoot.
joe rogan
Well, that means, that's the answer.
les stroud
At the end of the show, when I wrap it up, I say, I don't have an answer for this.
joe rogan
Right.
les stroud
The skeptics would say, everything fell off the branches and out of the field of view before the camera could register the falling, even though they were stuck on things upright like this.
brian redban
And it's infrared.
joe rogan
Oh, wait a minute, wait a minute.
They were hanging?
They weren't just sitting down on something?
les stroud
No, they were stuck.
joe rogan
On what?
les stroud
Like this.
Branches.
joe rogan
Okay, would a camera be sensitive enough to depict, to catch that?
If a candy bar fell off a branch?
It seems like not a large enough object to trigger...
les stroud
If it fell off on its own, I think it could potentially fall out of frame.
The problem is these things were all stuck and lodged.
There was zero wind.
joe rogan
Yeah, but isn't it more likely that gravity pulled them down the ground than that Bigfoot's invisible and knows how to shut off cameras?
Oh.
les stroud
That's an interesting question.
joe rogan
What am I, a scientist?
brian redban
Yes, you are.
joe rogan
Do I should be a scientist?
les stroud
Yes is the answer to that.
joe rogan
I think I need a lab coat.
That's more likely, right?
les stroud
Actually, who can answer that question?
More likely?
joe rogan
Probably a scientist.
les stroud
More likely?
joe rogan
Or someone who's not...
les stroud
What are they measuring?
What probability are they measuring?
More likely.
Who the hell knows?
joe rogan
What's more likely is what we know exists.
Something called gravity.
We know that that's a real thing.
We know something's hanging on a tree.
Look, I've set up things thinking they're going to be there until the end of time.
I came back a week later, they were gone.
Crazy how things like that happen.
Gravity always wins.
les stroud
That's possible, and I state that.
joe rogan
Gravity works on tits, it works on balls, it works on candy bars falling off of trees.
Nobody wins.
Gravity always wins.
So, I would think that if it's between gravity and an unknown monkey...
I'm gonna go with gravity.
les stroud
I hope you watch the show.
joe rogan
Well, definitely watch it now.
les stroud
You gotta see it.
joe rogan
But it sounds crazy, though.
It's just like, that's it.
les stroud
It is crazy.
joe rogan
But that's it.
It got messed up.
Just candy bars disappearing.
That's the number one thing.
unidentified
That's it.
joe rogan
It is possible.
Did you try to recreate?
Did you, like, try to set some candy bars up and, like, put a time-lapse on them or put the trail cam on them, rather, and see if you could recreate it and you weren't able to recreate it?
Because it didn't fall.
Did you try to make it fall, like put it up like real flimsy and then knock them down, see if the camera picks it up?
les stroud
No.
joe rogan
That's what I would have done.
Because if the camera didn't pick it up, I'd go, well, there it is.
It fell.
les stroud
Right.
joe rogan
But was it there where it fell?
les stroud
But then again, it fell from what?
I mean, it'd be like, if I put that there, you tell me what the odds are of this falling off of this table before tomorrow morning.
joe rogan
Well, that's different.
That's like setting it on a stump, right?
Like setting it on a stump?
les stroud
The analogy or the comparison is the same.
They were firmly put in places where they wouldn't just fall.
joe rogan
Right.
So they were put in places or they were hanging?
les stroud
Put in places.
joe rogan
Okay.
I'm confused.
I thought you were saying they were hanging from a tree.
No.
Would you pick that?
les stroud
No, you said hanging.
I never said that.
joe rogan
I'm sorry.
I thought you said they dropped out of frame.
They did.
I was thinking you said they were stuck in place.
I thought you meant like they were stuck in a branch or something.
les stroud
Like one apple was like, there's the branch, and the apple's like this.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
Okay, so it was stuck inside the branch, but it was still like hanging in the air.
Like the branch, the apple was hanging in the air.
les stroud
No, I would say no to that.
No.
joe rogan
Was it on the ground?
les stroud
No, it was 15 feet up.
joe rogan
Okay, but in the branch 15 feet up.
I don't want to get bogged down semantics.
People go, what's the point?
If it was in the air, it's 15 feet above the ground, right?
And the apple stuck.
On the branch.
It could conceivably have fallen off.
It's nothing like being on this table.
Being on this table is 100% likely that if you put this lighter here in 24 hours, as long as we don't have an earthquake, the lighter at least will be there.
les stroud
Yeah, you're splitting hairs, but I'll give you that.
joe rogan
That's not splitting hairs at all.
We're talking about something that could fall from gravity versus something that absolutely cannot move unless some interfering force comes along.
A rodent, a ferocious wind, an earthquake.
les stroud
The chocolate bars?
No.
It's the same.
The chocolate bars were sitting here in the middle of the table.
joe rogan
Okay, so the apple was stuck on a tree.
les stroud
The branch is this big.
And the chocolate bar sitting right like that.
joe rogan
Right.
les stroud
Nice and like not going anywhere.
joe rogan
Okay, so for folks who he's making his hand like about 16 inches?
les stroud
Yeah.
joe rogan
About Brian's dick.
And inside he puts a pen, which is my dick.
A small pen.
brian redban
A little baby in black.
joe rogan
It's a happy dick though.
unidentified
It's nothing to brag about.
joe rogan
So, okay, so that little tiny baby dick in between that little space, that's where you dropped a candy bar, correct?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
So the apple stuck in a tree about 15 feet off the ground.
les stroud
Yep.
Two candy bars.
joe rogan
The candy bars.
Now, what part of the world...
les stroud
I don't call it a candy bar anymore, anyway.
joe rogan
I do.
I live in America.
unidentified
That's fried.
joe rogan
Where we refer to it as candy bars.
brian redban
Wait, what are they called?
joe rogan
Yeah, exactly.
les stroud
I don't know.
unidentified
Chocolate?
brian redban
No, it's a candy bar.
joe rogan
He's just trying to confuse us, man.
We got him on the run here.
brian redban
And apples dry out really fast.
Have you ever let an apple out?
Like, if it has a little cut, it turns brown.
joe rogan
Stop with your logic and your science.
Just stop.
les stroud
It was almost sound.
joe rogan
There's mysticism to be uncovered here.
Now, the candy bars, you left them on the log, so the candy bar is represented by the baby dick, right?
And so this is flat.
It's sitting on a flat surface.
What kind of an area we're looking at?
We're looking at like a heavily wooded area?
Is that what it's like?
les stroud
Top of the mountain, sparse trees, rocks.
joe rogan
Rodents?
Got rodents up there?
les stroud
Rodents for sure.
joe rogan
Right.
Wouldn't it be likely that maybe a rodent is small enough that it could grab that candy bar and maybe the trail camera is set up for like game?
Probably set up for something that triggers its camera sensors?
les stroud
No, in fact, we showed it with the testing that it actually triggers with dust in the air.
brian redban
So it'd just always be on, right?
joe rogan
All we are is dust in the wind.
brian redban
But if it got dust in there, it'd just be on all the time.
joe rogan
Everything's dust.
You remember those scenes in Twilight where the sunlight is cutting through the trees and you see all the dust in the air, all the glistening stuff and shit and birds?
So it'd be a constant, like...
Flash.
It'd be like a movie, basically.
That's what it would be.
It was constantly...
You could run it together, like stop animation.
Nothing would stop.
It would keep moving.
So it could pick up dust.
Alright, so my rodent theory doesn't work.
les stroud
But I know where you're going with this.
No, no, I agree with...
My theory is the rodent theory.
joe rogan
That's the only one that makes sense to me.
Unless Bigfoot can fuck with cameras and make them stop.
Is that what you were implying?
les stroud
That's what I was implying.
joe rogan
Really?
unidentified
For real.
les stroud
For real, I was implying.
joe rogan
Okay.
les stroud
I didn't say that's what it was.
joe rogan
But you will...
les stroud
I was implying the possibility.
joe rogan
You will put that in your what-if folder.
les stroud
What if?
unidentified
Because...
That's...
les stroud
That's what...
joe rogan
Oh, this better be good.
unidentified
Fuck.
brian redban
Bigfoot's aliens.
les stroud
I'm not even going in here.
joe rogan
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
les stroud
No, I'm not telling you.
joe rogan
Come on, we gotta joke around.
We're drinking.
We have a little Guinness, a little marijuana.
We're talking Bigfoot.
You can't take this seriously.
Sorry.
So, if it is possible that this animal exhibits some strange power over electronics, like, that would...
They'll explain a lot of things, right?
They'll explain a lot of shit.
Like, how come there's no pictures of Bigfoot?
Funny thing.
les stroud
Funny thing.
joe rogan
We found out that it knows how to stop cameras.
It's smart enough to figure out how to stop cameras.
Not smart enough for pants or shoes or any cool shit.
unidentified
No cell phones.
les stroud
Driving a car.
joe rogan
No Bigfoot TV. But they figured out how to stop cameras because that fucking camera is a problem.
As soon as man invented a camera, they saw it and were like, we gotta figure out how to mess with that.
brian redban
We gotta get a radio shack.
joe rogan
And we gotta screech.
It's the howls.
The howls kill the camera.
Did you do the howling?
les stroud
That was a big, of course.
joe rogan
Like they do?
The hoop?
How does anybody know what it sounds like?
les stroud
That's what I said.
How do you even know what you're saying?
You'd be like pissing.
You'd say, oh man, dudes, you guys are ugly.
You don't know what you're saying.
joe rogan
You'd be calling for some dick.
That's the worst.
When you get there, he thinks you're a dick tease.
Just beats the shit out of you.
A horny Bigfoot wasting his time.
It's like, you don't want to be a fake Bigfoot tinder.
You know what I'm saying?
les stroud
Tinder?
brian redban
Bigfoot could be...
joe rogan
Yeah, that's what they use, the kids today.
The kids today.
brian redban
Bigfoot could just be people from the future fucking with us.
joe rogan
Easily.
unidentified
Easily.
joe rogan
Much more likely than Bigfoot, for real.
brian redban
Yeah, I think time travel is more believable than...
joe rogan
What's more believable is that aliens went back in time, grabbed the Gigantopithecus, and just dropped it off periodically in the woods to fuck with people.
That's more likely than a large, more-than-tigers population of Gigantopithecus running through the woods.
les stroud
You're going to love this one.
It gets even better.
On another occasion, it was all about the potential of it being the Nephrim from the Bible, Genesis chapter 6. Oh, chapter 6. As long as you number the chapters, it gives a lot of credence to words.
It sounds authoritative.
So there you go.
That's the stuff you start hearing and seeing over and over again.
It's bizarre.
It's a slippery slope.
joe rogan
There easily could have been large people at one point in time.
I mean, there's large people today.
The idea that this has never happened before.
You never had Shaquille O'Neal before.
You never had that guy from China.
What's the guy's name?
Gigantic.
Gigantic basketball player.
unidentified
Yao Ming.
joe rogan
Yao Ming.
Thank you.
That guy's a giant.
He's so fucking tall.
He's taller than Shaquille O'Neal.
les stroud
Is he like 7'10", 7'11", or something?
unidentified
That's insane.
joe rogan
How tall is he, Jamie?
7-7.
What the fuck?
So that guy exists today.
It's very likely that at one point in time in history, there was a batch of those people.
There was a lot of them.
It's so possible.
We vary a lot, and we're not genetically that much different than people that lived 50,000 plus years ago.
So you're talking about the Bible, which was maybe written somewhere around like 4 or 5,000 years ago, and I think the Dead Sea Scrolls, I think they got that to like...
Was it like 5,000 years, whatever it is?
So it's anywhere, it's between like what we have today, 2015, and the last like whatever thousand years.
It's super possible that there was a group of huge fucking Yao Ming's running around back then.
Totally possible.
That's the same genes.
I mean, they probably have more access to protein and food today, but if they lived in a really rich source, You know as well as anybody that any bear that lives in an area where there's a lot of salmon.
Look how tall that guy is!
Oh my god!
Who's that guy?
Is that the newest giant?
unidentified
Yeah, he's 7'5".
joe rogan
He's a college player now.
Mom would do MJ or something like that.
Oh my god, is he still growing?
unidentified
Yeah, he's only like 19. Jesus fucking Christ!
joe rogan
Now, imagine if you're as short as me.
I'm 5'8", and I stumble through, and by the way, back in like the Civil War days, those guys were smaller than me.
Those guys were tiny.
The average size of a grown man in the Civil War was like 135 pounds.
They were these tiny little people that didn't get a lot of food.
les stroud
Voyageurs were the same.
They used to carry like 100 pounds on their back.
joe rogan
Man, if you found a guy like this, if you went to some place and you saw people like this, and you got in a boat, and sailed across the sea, and landed on an island that was filled with legit giants, god damn you'd have some stories.
I think that makes more sense than Bigfoot.
The Nephilim!
So, the best thing you saw was nothing.
The best thing you saw was shit disappearing.
les stroud
The best thing I saw, yeah, was shit disappearing.
joe rogan
Shit disappearing.
But what about sounds?
Did you hear anything?
Did you hear any moans or any grunts or anything?
les stroud
Same as before the odd, you know...
But what the hell is that?
joe rogan
That could be a bird, right?
les stroud
That could be a raven.
joe rogan
That could be a raven.
brian redban
Frog.
les stroud
Could be a frog.
Could be anything.
brian redban
Frogs make a lot of crazy noises.
les stroud
They do.
joe rogan
Do they whoop?
les stroud
No, they make it sound like that for sure.
brian redban
They scream.
joe rogan
What was the sound that you heard when you were in your tent?
You heard a Sasquatch sound.
les stroud
So you're talking about the Survivor Man in Alaska show.
joe rogan
Yes.
What does it sound like?
les stroud
Well, first of all, picture the scene.
I'm there.
joe rogan
Let me take my pants off.
les stroud
Middle of nowhere.
joe rogan
Oh, sorry.
unidentified
Hang on.
Do you want...
les stroud
There should be some hand cream over there.
joe rogan
I don't need that shit.
I dry Jack.
I'm a man.
I want to be dependent on lotion like some pussy.
That's why I don't take pain pills.
les stroud
That took about a split second to just go downhill.
joe rogan
Downhill?
It just got way better.
Okay, sorry.
So, picture this scene.
les stroud
Middle of nowhere.
Alaska and coast.
By myself.
joe rogan
What do I smell like?
unidentified
Lavender.
Lavender!
joe rogan
Sorry.
Okay.
Middle of nowhere, Alaska coast.
I'm sorry, I wanted to run again.
les stroud
And I'm filming a scene, Survivorman scene, blah, blah, blah, just making a grass bed or something.
And then all of a sudden, the trees, 50 yards away, at about a 10 foot, 12 foot height, just start like shaking, just going crazy.
And then I hear a great ape.
unidentified
Like that.
les stroud
Only way, way, way, way, way louder.
here.
Deeper.
Goes right through your body when it's done.
The problem is I'm in Alaska.
So unless there's an escaped great ape from the zoo, what the hell is that?
Because bears don't do that.
joe rogan
Moose don't do that.
The skeptics would say that the bear, you just ran across a bear that made some unusual noises.
les stroud
Five times in a row, and then when he left...
joe rogan
Five times in a row?
les stroud
Five times in a row, and then when he left, the whole forest just erupted with breaking trees as it ran away.
I don't know many bears that do that.
Hence, my question.
What was that?
Wish I knew.
These people think it's Bigfoot.
I'm gonna go find it.
brian redban
Indian rave.
joe rogan
No, there's no way whatsoever that you were asleep before this happened.
les stroud
Oh, it was two o'clock in the afternoon.
joe rogan
Two o'clock in the afternoon.
unidentified
Roughly.
joe rogan
So you had more than one experience, right?
Because there was another one when you went for your camera and it ran off, right?
les stroud
No, that was that one.
joe rogan
That was that one.
I thought that was at night.
Did I screw it up?
I might have screwed it up in my own head.
les stroud
Midday.
joe rogan
Okay, so when you didn't see anything, you just heard it?
les stroud
Didn't see anything.
To this day, I haven't seen anything.
So I can't claim anything.
I haven't seen it.
That's what I keep saying.
Show it to me.
joe rogan
That's the fucked up thing about people telling you stories.
I had it in my head that this was a story at night time.
I had it in my head that you were in your tent and that this thing came out at night time and made all this noise and then you went for your camera and it ran off.
les stroud
You wanted it to be more like that.
joe rogan
Yeah, I wanted it to be spookier.
les stroud
I didn't have a tent.
joe rogan
Night time scares me.
les stroud
And it was midday.
joe rogan
No tent, midday.
les stroud
It was a Survivorman thing.
Damn.
joe rogan
Have you ever seen something where you're like, that might be Bigfoot, never seen anything?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Nothing.
les stroud
No.
joe rogan
Fuck.
les stroud
That's why I want to know.
brian redban
Finding schizophrenia.
joe rogan
I don't think it's schizophrenia.
I don't think it's schizophrenia.
I think...
Here's a problem.
Heightened states, okay?
Heightened states of fear, heightened states of alienation, unusual states of the mind.
Which would definitely coincide with being alone in Alaska by yourself with like a fucking bottle opener and a roll of duct tape and a condom.
I mean, that's what you have when you go to these fucking places.
You go and you bring like a bag of shit that you might ordinarily have on you if something went horribly wrong and you found yourself in these places.
And then you figure out a way to survive.
That's a heightened state, right?
So anything that happens is going to be...
les stroud
Suspect.
joe rogan
Yeah, there was just some stuff going on in your brain, man.
Your brain is protecting you from all sorts of weird possibilities.
unidentified
Bears and predators and who knows what the fuck is out there.
joe rogan
People!
Find a fucking purse in the middle of nowhere like that.
That might be the most dangerous shit you come across.
les stroud
Yeah, that's freaky.
joe rogan
Tim and Dave McVeigh-looking motherfucker out there.
You know, some crazy Unabomber Ted Kaczynski-type character.
les stroud
Yeah, that's scarier than the Tigers.
Way scarier than the Tigers.
joe rogan
A guy living by himself, if you went in deep, deep, deep, deep, deep into the woods, like miles and miles in, hours and hours of hiking, and you found a cabin, you better not knock on that fucking door.
You just better not.
Who's this guy?
Why is he out here with no one around him?
That guy's crazy.
That might be the scariest thing you could ever find in the woods.
A person who lives in the woods.
les stroud
Yeah, I totally agree.
I've always said that.
People go on about the romanticism of some dude living out in the bush by himself for 35 years.
It's like, he's nuts!
joe rogan
Guy's an asshole.
brian redban
Guaranteed.
joe rogan
He's gonna live where there's no people.
What an asshole.
People are my favorite thing.
I love people.
Why would you live where there's no people?
What kind of a fucking piece of shit wants to live in a woodshed in the middle of nowhere?
Somebody wants to blow everybody up.
It's like that Ted Kaczynski guy.
That's how he lived.
Guy was a professor at Berkeley.
Decided to just move to the woods.
That was his house.
unidentified
Look at that.
les stroud
That's scary.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah, man.
You see that thing?
Light it on fire.
Take your chances.
Take your chances of escaping from the flames.
Light that house on fire.
Fuck that guy.
brian redban
Looks like Ohio.
joe rogan
By the way, I don't mean that.
If you listen to this podcast right now in a tiny little shed in the middle of nowhere, this will always be my dream, man.
You're shitting on my dream.
I don't really mean that.
I'm just talking.
Relax.
Relax.
les stroud
Sweet backpedal going on there.
joe rogan
But it's true, if you do live in the woods like that, there's a high possibility that you might be fucking crazy.
brian redban
Or hiding from the law.
les stroud
Yeah, or hiding from the law.
Actually, when you see people been out there for a long time, even if they didn't start out crazy, you go bush.
joe rogan
Right, now tell me this.
Do you take that in consideration when you think about this experience?
Like, you're like, man, did I fuck this up in my head?
Did I have no reference point because I was alone for too long out there?
And did I just give myself some sort of a jolt, like an extra emotional charge to my memory that may have distorted it, and as I repeated it over and over again in my memory, I might have twisted it a little bit and jumped it up or moved it side to side?
Or are you rock solid that that's exactly what happened?
les stroud
Absolutely option one.
I haven't got a freaking clue.
I could have been messed up.
Absolutely agree with you.
I question all of those experiences I have when I'm out there.
joe rogan
That's very honest of you.
That's very honest of you.
les stroud
I think that was a raven.
I think that was a squirrel.
That's a track I can't account for.
Those branches are just broken because of snow load.
These ones aren't broken because of snow load.
Just like that, I don't have a freaking clue.
I could be just mumbling.
joe rogan
And that was probably a freaky experience, but was that as freaky as being above the tiger?
What was more freaky?
les stroud
Being above the tiger.
joe rogan
Yeah, I would imagine, right?
les stroud
Because this is real.
It's as real as it gets.
joe rogan
100%.
Yeah, it's a confirmed animal.
Confirmed kills people.
I was going to say earlier about that place, the Sundarbans.
They've killed 300,000 people in the last 200 years.
Tigers are responsible for 300,000 confirmed deaths.
That's insane.
unidentified
That's a lot.
joe rogan
That is a crazy number.
I listened to that in a documentary, and I'm like, that can't be true.
So then I went and I googled all these different sources, and that's essentially the number somewhere around there, somewhere between 200,000 and 300,000.
That's fucking insane, man.
That's insane.
Even if it's like, okay, 200 years.
Even if it's 200,000, Think about how many fucking people that is.
They're getting jacked by tigers.
That's a fucking pile of people, man.
If you're a pile of 200,000 people, oh my god, that's terrifying.
That's a thousand a year.
les stroud
Tigers.
Hippos.
joe rogan
That's three a day.
les stroud
Water buffalo.
unidentified
Dude, that's three a day, right?
joe rogan
A thousand a year is like three a day or close to it in that neighborhood two to three a day every fucking day for 200 years.
Oh my god!
Oh my god!
Like fuck the wolf man, you know?
Fuck Bigfoot!
Tigers!
That's real!
What a crazy animal, man!
And we're like working really hard to make sure they stay alive so they can keep eating those Indians.
Fuck, man.
Indians have to be the nicest people ever.
They know the tigers are gonna eat them, and they still want to make sure their population's healthy.
Wow.
They must be the nicest people ever.
les stroud
They are really nice people.
joe rogan
They must be.
les stroud
Ones I know.
joe rogan
I mean, that's the only way it makes sense.
les stroud
They actually fought very hard to make sure that the tigers are kept very safe and everything works out.
joe rogan
That's amazing.
brian redban
Is that why they worship cows and let cows walk around the streets so that they are like bait?
les stroud
I couldn't figure out that one at all.
joe rogan
That's actually smart.
That's actually smart.
Cows are way easier to get than people with guns.
Get away from me.
The whole thing is bananas.
The fact that they starve, but they won't eat the cows, and then the fact that they want the...
How did they develop this unusual perspective?
Have you been over there?
No.
No, I have not.
les stroud
Pot grows in profuse amounts all over the roads everywhere.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can get it down the street at a store.
They weigh it for you, they measure it.
You don't have to go to fucking India and pluck it.
les stroud
I'm talking about you pull up into your driveway, and on either side of your driveway is like a field of pot.
It's bizarre.
joe rogan
How much pot do you need?
To grow it indoors, and I can't get rid of it.
I'm trying to hand it out to people.
brian redban
A quarter lasts me a week.
joe rogan
It's everywhere.
Jesus Christ.
You don't need pot to be growing everywhere.
Come to India.
Avoid the tigers, but stay for the weed.
There's weed everywhere, man.
This is California.
You don't have to go to India for weed.
That's ridiculous.
That's a poor plan Go for the people that makes sense.
I would like to go just a true I would really love to experience like what it's like to talk to a real guru I know I goof on a lot of those dudes those yogis and those what's a real guru?
I don't know man.
I think like all things There's got to be someone that's doing it right.
It's probably insanely difficult to be like a real yogi, like a real master who's really like a sadhu, some dude who just smokes hash all day and meditates and goes into poses.
les stroud
I was with a sadhu in India last week.
joe rogan
Well, that's what they do, right?
les stroud
It was intense.
It went and, yeah.
joe rogan
I would like to talk to one of those real dudes who's really out there doing it.
He's not doing publicity tours or trying to sell books.
He doesn't have a podcast.
He's just out there smoking hash and stretching.
les stroud
So what do you think about that guy who's living off nothing?
No food?
No water?
joe rogan
It's bullshit.
100%.
les stroud
Okay.
joe rogan
He's a bullshit artist.
That guy's nuts.
That's why you know about him.
The reason why you know about him is he's telling me, I don't eat, I don't drink, I just take in the sun.
Fuck outta here.
Shut up.
I went to this guy's I went to this guy's office to film an episode of the sci-fi show and as I walked in, the thing that he supposedly could do turned out to be bullshit.
But as we walked in, he has this A picture of this Indian guy, this man from India, and he has white paint all over his face.
And he has no shirt on.
He's like this weird dress.
He's wearing these weird clothes he's dressed in.
And I say, who's that guy?
He goes, oh, well, he has actually achieved the highest state of enlightenment, and he has existed without water or food for the past 13 years.
I go, no, he hasn't.
No, he hasn't.
Why is he fat?
He's still fat?
He's still fat, and he doesn't eat, and he just...
Get the fuck out of here, man.
And then I was like, I can't believe I'm at this guy's office.
I'm going to listen to some bullshit thing.
You can't say a guy has lived without food for 13 years.
Put that motherfucker in one of those David Blaine boxes, and let's watch him.
Let's watch him for a few years.
Come on, let me see how long it takes before you starve to death.
You fuckhead!
You can't just say that!
les stroud
Did you hear about the Aghoris?
You ever read about the Aghoris?
joe rogan
What is that?
les stroud
In India?
These are the high, enlightened, next level from sadhus sort of thing.
And they live off eating the dead people that are in the Ganga River.
joe rogan
Oh my god!
les stroud
They'll go down and they'll eat the bodies.
Just Google Ligori.
Google Ligori and A-G-H-O-R-I, I think.
And they practice necrophilia.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
les stroud
Yeah.
joe rogan
They fuck the dead bodies?
les stroud
They do.
Oh, my God.
And this is part of all the sort of states of enlightenment.
They're in the eat excrement.
They'll drink urine.
They just live this way.
The rule of their thumb is accept the unacceptable.
joe rogan
Wow.
unidentified
It's insane.
joe rogan
So they're just trying to smash taboos?
les stroud
Yeah, well, it's all about connecting with Shiva, and if you do this, you're denying the self, and blah, blah, blah, blah.
joe rogan
What?
les stroud
It's intense.
joe rogan
The cannibal monks of Varanasi.
les stroud
Varanasi, yeah.
joe rogan
Indian tribe feast on human flesh, drink from skulls, and live among the dead.
les stroud
Whoa.
That's not, like, a fun...
Headline.
They do it.
They're there and they do it.
joe rogan
Did you encounter these people?
les stroud
I saw one sort of walking through the street kind of thing.
joe rogan
What the fuck, man?
They eat the dead?
And that's a natural practice for them?
les stroud
Yeah.
joe rogan
And what's the thought behind it?
les stroud
That they're taking in the worst of the sins of all and that sort of they can connect with Shiva much stronger because of that because it's not affecting them.
joe rogan
What are they wearing all over them?
Is that white paint?
les stroud
Ash.
Ash from the dead bodies.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
So they take the ash from the dead bodies and they smear it all over themselves?
les stroud
Yeah, while they're finishing off the leg bone.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
And then they just meditate and they do yoga.
les stroud
Yeah.
joe rogan
What in the fuck?
les stroud
Yeah.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
That guy's got like blood in his beard.
Is that what that is?
unidentified
Maybe.
joe rogan
Maybe.
brian redban
Ah!
joe rogan
Artifact of the camera.
Shitty.
brian redban
Joe, when they ate people in Walking Dead, don't lie, that made you a little hungry for steak though, right?
When you're just chewing that big piece of meat.
It looked good.
joe rogan
No, it looked like he was eating something that wasn't a person.
brian redban
Right.
Maybe a person is good.
joe rogan
Yeah.
les stroud
Hollywood special effects.
joe rogan
People supposedly taste like pig.
Cannibals would call them long pig.
Like, long pig is an expression for human meat.
Apparently, we taste a lot like pigs.
Really weird, man.
It's really weird.
Cannibalism freaks people out, rightly so.
Like, seeing that, that was a very bizarre video.
Or a very bizarre series of images.
Looking at those people, knowing those people have eaten bodies.
les stroud
Yeah.
joe rogan
Something about looking at someone that you know eats bodies.
les stroud
Yeah, and they don't eat bodies because they're in a plane crash and they have to do it to survive.
They eat the bodies because that's just what they eat.
joe rogan
Do they kill?
les stroud
No.
joe rogan
No.
les stroud
Absolutely not.
joe rogan
Absolutely not.
les stroud
In fact, people come to them to be healed.
joe rogan
What's their breath like?
Must be insanely bad.
Do they brush?
Floss?
Anything?
les stroud
Well, if they floss...
joe rogan
They use human hair.
unidentified
Exactly.
joe rogan
They floss with human hair.
Now, these people that they get from the river, they're people that drowned or something like that?
les stroud
No, no, no.
You know how they always cremate their dead down by the river and then they leave them floating along in a burning raft sort of thing?
joe rogan
Said to collect these remains, use them for spiritual enlightenment, wearing costumes...
Oh, wearing the corpses, consuming them, or building altars from them.
What?
They're parading a dead body through the street.
Oh my god, they wear the corpses?
Wear them?
Like what, tie them to their body?
See if you can find something where a dude's wearing one of the corpses.
les stroud
That's pretty sick.
joe rogan
That was weird, man.
Just seeing them walk down with that body, knowing they have little rituals they do with their bodies.
What we do is weird too, right?
How's embalming any fucking less creepy than that?
les stroud
Embalming's creepy.
joe rogan
It's super creepy.
les stroud
Yeah, I'd rather be burned or blown up.
It'd be cool to be blown up.
joe rogan
Joey Diaz had a friend and they knew someone who died, like a young lady, and the parents showed up at the funeral parlor And the guy came back from doing something with the body, and he was sweaty, and he was out of breath.
And they were thinking that this guy might have fucked their dead daughter.
Like, this is a possibility.
I'm pretty sure Joey told me this story.
And they saw this guy sweating and heaving, and there was this weird feeling in the air.
And then they found that out a few times.
There's been quite a few times your guys got busted doing that.
brian redban
Oh, it happens a lot.
joe rogan
Oh, my God, it must.
It must.
Especially with people that are really fucked up in the head, and then on top of being fucked up in the head, they somehow or another get a job where they have access to dead bodies.
They get super comfortable around being around dead bodies.
And you just look at this warm tit from some chick who got shot in the head five hours ago.
You're like, this is a fucker.
unidentified
Who knows what?
les stroud
Yeah, you get seen from a Tarantino movie.
joe rogan
Goddamn, man.
That's people, man.
There's a lot of people out there that are like that.
les stroud
Messed up.
joe rogan
But to see that, man, to see that there's a whole culture based on somehow or another's...
les stroud
That was bizarre.
And there is a whole culture based on it.
It's not like there's three people.
There's like lots of them.
joe rogan
And they have sex with the corpses.
les stroud
And they have sex with the corpses.
joe rogan
And they consume them.
They wear them.
They're just trying to break all taboos, right?
Is that what they're trying to do?
les stroud
Yeah.
Accept the unacceptable.
joe rogan
What is he doing?
Drinking from the skull?
Oh my god.
Jesus Christ.
What is he drinking?
unidentified
Oh, just a fucking Jesus Christ, son.
joe rogan
Where's your father?
les stroud
That's so weird, man.
That was bizarre.
It's a bizarre cultural movie.
joe rogan
But it's, look at it, it's like, it's so weird.
Like, look behind him.
You have that...
Was that a Buddha or Shiva?
unidentified
Shiva.
joe rogan
Shiva image behind him.
So you're, you know, you're dealing with someone who's practicing.
les stroud
But you might go, like, you might go to be cured of something from this guy and he would, like, they swear they have the cures to everything.
joe rogan
I've got news for you.
That guy with his head filled with shit and urine.
Take aspirin.
Go to CVS and take some aspirin.
brian redban
We need more tigers, definitely.
joe rogan
I agree.
Yeah, tigers to take those assholes out.
brian redban
Yes, absolutely.
joe rogan
How many of those people get killed a year by tigers?
les stroud
Probably none.
joe rogan
What we need to do is get Bigfoot and the tiger together in the octagon and see who's the king of the goddamn forest.
brian redban
My money's on tiger.
unidentified
Yeah, I take tiger over Bigfoot all day.
joe rogan
When was the last time Bigfoot jumped 14 feet through the air to bitch slap somebody?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
See what that tiger can do?
les stroud
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
How many Sasquatch do you actually estimate are up there?
les stroud
I don't estimate anything like that.
joe rogan
Do you think there's any?
les stroud
Do I think there's any?
joe rogan
Any.
les stroud
I think that the possibility of something exists.
What the fuck it is, I don't know.
joe rogan
Okay, if you had a guess though, if I gave you, if we said, listen, this is the lottery right now, this is the world lottery, you got two choices.
One side is...
Yes, this is a real animal.
It exists.
One side is no.
You've got to push all your chips on one side.
Which way are you going to go?
les stroud
I'd go yes.
joe rogan
I'm going no.
All day.
All day like this.
unidentified
I'll take that.
les stroud
I'll take it.
joe rogan
You know why?
Because even though they did find the hobbit bones, they did find this fanged vampire deer, it just seems like...
All those things are, like, way more possible than Bigfoot.
For whatever reason, Bigfoot feels, and I know this isn't logical.
This isn't scientific.
It feels like bullshit.
There's so much bullshit attached to it.
les stroud
You already nailed it, though.
Feelings aren't fact, and that's all you...
joe rogan
Someone's a little defensive.
les stroud
See that?
No, because on both sides, both sides...
Got nothing.
joe rogan
You're right.
Well, that's not totally true because the absence of evidence doesn't necessarily mean there's evidence, but...
The fact that there's, like, zero evidence would lead the...
Not real.
les stroud
Anecdotal references don't count?
joe rogan
That doesn't count, because people are full of shit.
And this is the most hilarious one.
The Patterson footage.
Gee, that looks real.
The fuck out of here.
That's so dumb.
The fact that scientists actually examined that thing for decades.
Well, I believe the gate, perhaps, could be a very unusually shaped person, but my money...
unidentified
Son of a Sasquatch.
joe rogan
Not a dude with a monkey suit on with football pads on.
No, no, no, no, no.
Unknown monkey.
For sure.
Unknown monkey.
I don't know.
It could be real.
I would tell you what I would be most happy.
Most happy if it was real.
I don't know why, but if they did find Bigfoot, it would probably be next to my daughter's birth, probably be the happiest day of my life.
unidentified
You know what?
I'll tell you why.
brian redban
I want two lesbian Bigfoots.
les stroud
I'll tell you why.
Because you know what?
Because it means there's still freaking magic in the world.
That's why.
If it's real, there's a lot of magic going on.
There's some cool shit going on out there.
joe rogan
Okay, Narnia.
les stroud
Don't rag on me for the wrong word.
Okay, hang on a second.
joe rogan
Magic in the world.
Episode 78 of Come to Me Bigfoot.
unidentified
There's magic still in the world.
les stroud
Bigfoot's magic dick.
There's cool shit still.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, there's a lot of cool shit that's alive.
That's one of my main points about all this.
les stroud
You're right.
joe rogan
Why do we need something unknown to get us so excited about biology?
When there's things like that shoe build, that thing is fucking bizarrely evil looking...
Real, giant, prehistoric bird.
It doesn't fly.
les stroud
Because Bigfoot is closer to us than we think, right?
joe rogan
Look at that thing.
Look at that motherfucker.
Jesus Christ, that thing's evil.
les stroud
If you're going for Cool Factor...
joe rogan
That thing is so crazy!
If you didn't know that was a real animal, and you said, look at this evil thing in this new Hobbit movie.
One of the things that attacks the Hobbit are five-foot-tall birds that don't fly, and they're predatory, and they have a giant bill that's like the size of...
That's like, I mean, what is that thing?
Two feet long?
They're bills?
Get the fuck out of here.
brian redban
It looks exactly like that Dark Crystal creature.
Remember that creature from the Dark Crystal?
unidentified
Yeah.
brian redban
It looks exactly like that.
joe rogan
Well, you know, that's one of the things that they know existed in North America, this terror bird, that put that to shame.
That's like a five foot tall version of this terror bird.
It was even bigger, with an even bigger beak.
And they didn't even find out about that thing until, I want to say like 20 or 30 years ago, they started discovering the fossils.
I don't, I might be wrong, but I don't think it was that long ago.
Jamie, do the research, please.
les stroud
That's why I said what I did.
joe rogan
Look at the size of that fucking thing.
Look at the picture of that thing next to a person.
les stroud
Joe, that is cool as shit, right?
joe rogan
I like how it's next to a soldier.
brian redban
What the fuck is that?
joe rogan
They gotta fucking hunt them.
les stroud
They gotta hunt them, man.
The size of that goddamn thing.
joe rogan
What the fuck?
That was that big?
How tall is that dude?
Is that Bobby Lee?
How tall is that dude?
brian redban
It's actually an army soldier from Toy Story.
joe rogan
Six foot tall?
Doesn't say.
Well, it represents the average person, which I believe the average male in America is like 5'10".
So think about how God- Look how big it is!
Next to a Volkswagen!
What the fuck, man?
Could you imagine you step out of your back porch and you see something bigger than a fucking moose, and it's just a giant bird?
It's predatory?
brian redban
And he owns a Volkswagen Beetle?
joe rogan
What do they eat?
What the fuck do they eat?
les stroud
Anything they want.
joe rogan
Yeah, what do they eat?
unidentified
I mean, that must be a fucking hungry bitch!
joe rogan
Look at the size of that thing!
To keep that much mass?
Oh my god.
It says 180 kilograms, which is, what is that?
400 pounds?
300 and something pounds?
400 kilograms is 2.2 pounds per kilogram, so 400 kilograms is more than 800 pounds.
Is it 8-8, right?
8,000 pounds.
1,000 pounds.
Yeah, for 400 kilograms.
Somewhere around.
In the neighborhood, right?
What the fuck?
A thousand pound bird that just runs around biting people.
And then this other thing is smaller, but it looks bigger.
Why does it look bigger?
unidentified
Three meters tall.
joe rogan
But why is it...
Why do they...
les stroud
It's taller.
joe rogan
It's taller.
les stroud
Taller and thinner.
joe rogan
But it doesn't have as much mass.
Oh, okay.
Well, I'm scared of the one on the left now.
That fucking ruthless bitch.
Why is he so much heavier?
He's wearing twice as heavy.
And the other one's taller.
The one on the right, if you looked at those, you would say, which one's heavier?
Probably the one on the right, right?
brian redban
I'm more scared of the one on the right just because of its beak.
That looks pretty damaging.
Looks like a pterodactyl.
Or not a...
The thing from Jurassic Park.
joe rogan
That one looks so predatory that the reason why it's so thin is because it eats so much that it burns calories while it's eating.
It's killing you and burning your calories.
It's constantly being a state of murder.
Just to fuel that fucking face.
Look at that thing growing off of its head.
unidentified
Imagine...
joe rogan
You got a giant hatchet.
Big bolt cutters.
les stroud
That murders.
brian redban
Look at that dude's belt.
joe rogan
And you're nine feet tall.
And you weigh, whatever it is, 300 pounds.
300 plus pounds.
360?
unidentified
What is that?
joe rogan
What's 180?
What's 180 kilograms?
What the fuck?
500 fucking pounds.
Bird.
Biting you.
Look in its eyes.
No mercy.
Nothing.
No emotions.
Just dead.
Like you're looking into a mirror.
Just dead as it's eating your asshole.
Alerts its babies that it found one.
Why is it eating your asshole?
Because they do.
Animals start asshole first.
You know that as much as I do, right?
les stroud
It's a tongue asshole.
joe rogan
They start with your asshole.
That's one of the things that coyotes do that's so horrific.
When you find deer that are still half alive, their bottom end is eaten away.
They eat their asshole and their legs, and oftentimes they're still alive.
They think there might be some, like, advantages to killing animals that way and keeping them alive because it preserves the meat for a little bit longer than if they just went right to the neck.
Because, like, this guy that I was up in BC with, he was a moose hunter, so they came across this moose that had been alive for days, and these wolves were eating it for days.
It was still alive, and they would just eat its legs.
It was just tearing at its asshole, and they were eating its back legs.
And the moose couldn't get up.
It couldn't get away.
They were keeping it there.
But like half of his back end was gone and he was still alive.
Fuck, nature.
You scary bitch.
brian redban
That's scary as fuck.
joe rogan
You scary bitch, nature.
And there you are, sleeping in trees.
les stroud
Sleeping in the middle of it.
And there was a deer that happened to in India when we were there.
The local dogs had taken it.
All they did was they broke its hind legs, and then they backed off and they let it sit there.
unidentified
Oh, my God.
les stroud
Two broken back legs, and we just looked at us like, oh, man, oh, man.
joe rogan
And they just started eating it.
les stroud
You know the dogs were going to either rip it apart that night, or the tigers were going to come down and take it, or the leopards.
unidentified
Woo!
les stroud
So yeah, I'm still out there doing it.
I'm still out there sleeping in those places.
joe rogan
Now, why are you still doing this?
Because you don't have to still do this.
You can do anything you want.
les stroud
I'm actually in a better mood doing it now than I was a couple of years ago.
I'm kind of enjoying it.
I came back on this season like a swan song.
Like, let's have some fun.
Let's enjoy this.
I'm going to cool places.
Mongolia.
joe rogan
What are you going to do in Mongolia?
les stroud
Survivor, man.
Whoa.
Tonga, India.
Some beautiful, amazing places, so...
joe rogan
Have you seen that new tribe that they found in Mongolia that rides on caribou?
They have like tame caribou and they ride them around.
It's crazy.
They use animals to hunt.
They've trained wolves and they've trained eagles to hunt for them.
You know, they've known that they've been able to do that for a while, like, trained golden eagles to, like, take out smaller animals.
They take out deer.
But this tribe, they have domesticated caribou.
They've domesticated reindeer.
les stroud
Yep.
That's been around for a while.
joe rogan
It's wild, man.
They ride them around like they're horses.
It's like, and that's in Mongolia.
les stroud
Yep.
joe rogan
That's a crazy part of the world, man.
unidentified
Yeah.
les stroud
That's why I'm really enjoying this season.
I'm going to places I haven't been before.
joe rogan
Is it like...
There's a guy.
Look at that.
That's a woman, I believe.
unidentified
That's so cool.
Look at that.
joe rogan
She's riding a caribou like it's a fucking horse.
Is it welcome like like you're doing one thing that it's like man am I wasting my time like what is this like what I can need to see something But the other hand if you did find something if you were up there and you got great footage of this fucking big monkey Bounding between two or three trees just looking at you and saying fuck he got me Holy shit If we were like,
we weren't crazy, these 200 different Native American names for this animal, it wasn't crazy.
People want to know that that thing's real or that isn't real.
Like, I fuck around and I joke around about it not being real, but the reality is I don't fucking know.
We really don't know.
There's too many people that have said that there's something up there.
Doesn't mean that there's something up there.
It means the woods are scary, they're dense, it gets dark out, people make shit up, people know that other people made shit up, they hear their stories, they think, what if they're real?
I think I might have saw it too.
And then it builds up in your mind.
That's possible too.
But it's also possible there's a giant, undiscovered primate.
If anybody catches it, I hope it's you.
les stroud
I'll let you know.
joe rogan
Not Dean Cain.
les stroud
Bring it in first.
brian redban
He doesn't deserve it.
Let's mix Loch Ness with Bigfoot.
What if Bigfoot lived underwater and that's where he hid out?
joe rogan
There's no water up there.
That's a stupid idea.
les stroud
Shot down in flames.
joe rogan
That doesn't work.
It's not like he lives near a lake.
You know what they believe on that show River Monsters?
You know that River Monsters show?
They think they figured out what the Lake Champlain monster is.
They think it's a sturgeon.
An enormous sturgeon.
Because apparently there are sturgeons there and they've caught sturgeons.
And sturgeons get enormous.
les stroud
Huge, yeah.
joe rogan
Enormous.
Have you ever seen a sturgeon?
Oh my god.
I saw one in real life the other day.
I saw one in Mexico that someone had caught.
Fuck, dude.
That's a big goddamn fish.
The one I saw was small, but they had him on the show, that Jeremy, whatever his name is, that gentleman who runs River Monsters, that goes fishing, that guy's legit, right?
les stroud
Yeah.
joe rogan
He doesn't seem to have any fuckery on his shows.
He was in Lake Champlain, and they had a photo of this thing from overhead, and it looked exactly like a giant sturgeon.
You're talking like a 16-foot-long sturgeon.
Like, they really get that big.
les stroud
They do.
And they look like a dinosaur.
joe rogan
Prehistoric animal.
That's a sturgeon.
brian redban
Okay, yes.
joe rogan
That's a pretty big one.
See, look at that.
That's a Lake Champlain sturgeon.
So someone caught that in Lake Champlain.
I believe that's what that's saying.
Is that what that's saying?
les stroud
And they get way bigger.
joe rogan
Is that what it's saying?
Okay, so these are absolutely real sturgeon they've caught in Lake Champlain.
Those aren't that big.
I mean, that's probably like five feet long or something like that.
That one, maybe the other one was a little bit bigger.
But they believe that there's some enormous ones in there.
And I think that that river monster's guy...
Look at that one that that guy's got in his arm.
Look at that one right there.
That's not a sturgeon.
That's a pike.
The one next to it.
The one right next to it, if you go down.
Look at that.
That's a big fucking fish, man.
That's a big fish.
That's like a person.
It's a person fish.
But the really big ones.
If you take a photo of giant sturgeon, or Google giant sturgeon, and you'll get an image of what they look like at their very biggest thing.
les stroud
16 feet long?
joe rogan
Yeah, they're an enormous, prehistoric fish.
The only, like, the gar is the only one that's creepier.
The alligator gar.
les stroud
The gars are creepy, aren't they?
unidentified
God, they're creepy.
les stroud
I've always said that.
joe rogan
They have, like, armor.
Their bodies covered in armor.
Look at that.
Look at the fucking size of that thing.
Holy shit.
That's a painting.
Looks like a pain to me.
brian redban
Does your dick ever fall asleep on these chairs, Jeff?
joe rogan
Does that look real?
Your dick's asleep?
Your dick's checked out, dude.
It's tired of what you've been doing to it.
It's like, we're done, dude.
We're going numb.
Next thing you know, we're gonna tie ourselves and not hang ourselves while you're sleeping.
See, is that the biggest one you could find?
Oh my god!
Oh my god!
Look at that thing!
brian redban
It's huge.
joe rogan
Holy fuck!
What is that?
10 feet long?
That's probably 10 feet long, right?
Less if you had a guess.
les stroud
Nine.
joe rogan
Nine?
Look at these conservatives.
Love them.
Yeah, fucking Christ, man.
78 years old, he catches a huge 350 pound sturgeon in British Columbia.
That's where he was.
Look at that goddamn thing.
So heavy, it towed his boat for half an hour.
Oh my god.
Before the pensioner was able to pull...
Hey, he's a guy.
Leave him alone.
Just because he's old.
You gotta pull out the fact that he's on his pension.
Fuck off.
Try to diminish the man's achievement.
unidentified
He created...
brian redban
Starbuck.
joe rogan
What'd you say?
Starbucks?
brian redban
That's his last name.
joe rogan
Is that his last name?
brian redban
Yeah, he created Starbucks.
joe rogan
Mr. Starbuck.
Look at the size of that thing.
So those alligator gars, pull up a giant alligator gar.
I think these are even more creepy.
Because sturgeons, I don't think they eat much meat.
They eat like little fish and whatever.
They suck off the bottom, right?
Isn't that the deal with them?
les stroud
They're the bottom feeders.
joe rogan
Bottom feeders.
But alligator gars, they look way more predatory.
Look at that picture of the mouth down there.
brian redban
Fuck!
joe rogan
There's one above that, Jamie.
Or where was it?
Go back to those other images.
There's one- no, there's a better one.
The guy has its mouth wide open where you can get a good look- That one right there.
Right there, yeah.
It's an actual alligator?
Oh.
What the fuck, man?
Look at that thing!
Oh my god, that's a Florida gar.
How is that a real animal?
That thing looks so crazy.
les stroud
That's prehistoric.
joe rogan
Let me see the alligator right next to it.
The one that we thought was it.
See it right in the images down there in the lower right-hand side?
Related images?
Yeah, right there.
Bam.
That is a gar.
That's what I was thinking it was.
Let me just go to that image.
Oh my god!
Look at the size of that thing.
Most people don't even know what this is.
Most people have no idea what a gar is.
That's a sturgeon.
If you brought that up to them, they'd be like, what?
Go back to that one where they see the jaw where we thought it was an alligator.
The middle of the bottom.
Yeah, look at that.
Go to the full image of that.
Let's end with this fucking...
The world is filled with mystery, ladies and gentlemen.
Don't be so quick to say that Sasquatch isn't real when that fucking thing's swimming around.
brian redban
Have you seen the penis snake yet?
joe rogan
What is the penis snake?
brian redban
They just found this snake that's called the Arrothochonia.
But if you just type in penis snake, it's a snake from Brazil, I believe.
joe rogan
It looks like a penis?
brian redban
Yeah, it looks like a big, hard, or long penis.
joe rogan
How about those fucking things in the Amazon where those guys pee in the water?
They have to cup their hand over their dick because there's fish that'll fly right up your urethra.
unidentified
Catfish.
brian redban
Yeah, this one right here.
joe rogan
That's a dick.
Big black one, too.
brian redban
Yeah, that's a nice one.
That's a nice cut.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a cut dick.
Or it's got the helmet cover on.
It's ready to bust out.
It's got a very long foreskin.
Could be, right?
Like it's all tied up in a knot in the top.
brian redban
Look at those wrinkles.
I mean, that looks like a dick right there.
That's like balls and dick.
joe rogan
That's not what my dick looks like.
If your dick looks like you need to go to a doctor immediately.
Your dick's dehydrated.
It's probably dead.
brian redban
I mean, like what?
Sick dick.
When I have a sick dick.
joe rogan
Do you have a lot of sick dick days?
brian redban
No.
Once in a while, I do have a sick dick.
joe rogan
How many days do you allow yourself a year?
How many sick dick days?
brian redban
One every...
I don't know, four months, I allow a good sick dick.
I'm gonna send one of these photos to a girl to see if she thinks it's a dick.
joe rogan
The kind of chicks you're dating?
I bet you tell them it was fucking a dick in Narnia.
brian redban
Just make it black and white.
joe rogan
It's a dick on the moon.
Look, we got a picture from the rover.
les stroud
That's a Mordor dick.
joe rogan
Come on, son.
Did you see that Scientology documentary?
There's people out there that'll believe anything.
brian redban
Yeah.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
You see that?
unidentified
Going clear?
les stroud
Some bits of that, yeah.
joe rogan
I've read part of the book.
I didn't see the documentary yet, but I heard it's amazing.
Is there any correlation between the belief in Xenu and the belief in Sasquatch?
les stroud
It's gotta be.
brian redban
Very similar.
joe rogan
There is a little bit of this need for this fucking thing to be real that clouds the judgment.
And I applaud the fact that you went into this as objectively as a unique individual as you could.
It's, you know, no one is completely objective.
I think we all strive to be, especially if you're Really trying to give a good audit of your life and trying to figure out how you're running things.
How objective am I being about this goddamn Bigfoot thing?
It's tricky.
You're a lot invested in it.
You're out there.
It would suck if it wasn't real.
You've been out there, what, how many times now?
les stroud
Not to me at all.
At this point, this is eight.
Eight shows.
Nine shows.
I still go out the same way.
It's like, bring it.
Show me.
Bring it.
joe rogan
That guy that you're with, you said you had issues with him.
les stroud
Well, there's a whole bunch of different people that I go out there with now.
No, I don't have any issues with Todd.
Everybody else does.
joe rogan
Everybody else does.
So, is it possible that what we're looking at right there actually was a Bigfoot?
les stroud
I don't know.
I haven't got a clue.
joe rogan
If you had to put all your money...
If you have all your cash...
les stroud
No matter what, and knowing him, and knowing that stuff, I still sit with 50-50 on it.
It's just like, could be or couldn't be.
LOL. Ah, because you're 99.9.
brian redban
100. 100.
les stroud
Yeah, 100%.
joe rogan
That's a feckin' fake.
les stroud
Yeah, I know.
joe rogan
Why is it just sitting there?
While everybody else that even claims to have seen one says they fuckin' bolt.
Yeah, it winks.
brian redban
Go back to the blink again.
I see the blink.
unidentified
Winked.
joe rogan
That's how a person winks.
Watch.
That looks so fake.
unidentified
My God.
joe rogan
And what's the smash cut from there to there?
What happened there?
unidentified
There should be music playing when that's on.
joe rogan
Have you tried to get that guy to take a polygraph test?
les stroud
No, that's not a bad idea.
joe rogan
What the fuck, dude?
What am I going to have to figure this whole thing out for you?
I need to be a secret producer on your show.
les stroud
I called you, man.
unidentified
You're busy.
joe rogan
You wouldn't want me on the show.
les stroud
You're busy.
joe rogan
Shit would go one episode with me.
I'd be like, um, this guy's full of shit, Les.
We're out in the woods with a bullshit artist.
les stroud
That's what we should do.
joe rogan
There's a bullshit artist.
Come on, son.
Take this polygraph test.
les stroud
You be the skeptic.
I'll be the open guy.
unidentified
Boom.
les stroud
I'm okay.
And you could just do that every show.
joe rogan
How about we both be the skeptic?
Let's be done with this.
les stroud
That's true.
Well, I still stay the skeptic anyway.
joe rogan
See, this is...
I watch the show.
First of all...
I think that the area where you're at is so remote.
It's incredible.
I mean, it's an incredible piece of wilderness.
And one of the things that when we went Bigfoot hunting for that sci-fi show, this guy told us, he was a really cool guy.
He goes, look, even if there is no Bigfoot, we're still camping.
We're still out here camping.
We're having a good time.
We're enjoying.
les stroud
It's the best part.
joe rogan
And he really did feel that way.
The guy was not bullshitting.
So that area, there's nothing lost in exploring that area.
les stroud
I said that on the show.
I said, you know what?
Let's look at it this way.
Let's say they don't exist at all.
Worst case scenario, I get an awesome night in my tent on the edge of a lake, and it's beautiful.
joe rogan
And you're experiencing this intense, wild nature, which makes you feel really connected to life.
That's the thing about when you're in those woods, and you're in those remote areas, you must feel intensely connected to life.
les stroud
Yeah, I do, for sure.
joe rogan
In a weird way that you don't...
les stroud
Reconnected.
joe rogan
Reconnected.
Is that the way to describe it?
les stroud
I would think reconnected, yeah.
joe rogan
In a way you're never going to get in a city.
les stroud
That's right.
joe rogan
It's a different experience.
You feel different.
You feel different when you're so attached to the nature that's around you.
You are immersed in it.
You're a part of it.
When you're in the woods, the woods doesn't give a fuck about your 401k plan.
It doesn't give a fuck if you have your insurance card in your glove compartment.
It doesn't give a fuck if your left tire is starting to run low.
It doesn't give a fuck.
Nature doesn't give a fuck about any of the variables that you present.
It's like, this is what we have to offer.
It's a wild shootout.
It's a wild shootout between predators and prey, and there's limited food supply, and there's a bunch of animals darting around left and right and shitting in the woods.
Good luck.
Good luck.
That's that's what you feel when you're out there you feel this like wow Maybe the stock market really isn't like the epicenter of the universe Maybe it doesn't really matter in the greater scheme of the universe whether or not I owe money on my student loans Maybe it doesn't really matter if I'm in credit card debt and my wife is banging her trainer.
Maybe it doesn't matter That's why it's good to go out to the bush.
Yeah, when you're out there, it puts the whole ball of wax.
You might be completely wrapped up in your own weird thing to the point where you don't recognize the fact That you're a part of nature.
You're just removed because you have walls, you have electricity, and you have a hat on, but you're a part of nature, an unavoidable part of it.
You're in there.
You're in it.
So even if Bigfoot's bullshit, there's still something that nature is so wild that the possibility of Bigfoot isn't outside of the realm of what you would consider to have a potential reality to it.
It's not outside of it.
It's in the realm.
les stroud
Bingo.
unidentified
Survivor man, Bigfoot.
joe rogan
Tune in.
If you do find something, would you please bring it to us immediately?
Can we get a scoop?
les stroud
Okay, you got a scoop.
joe rogan
For real?
les stroud
For real.
brian redban
Snapchat us.
joe rogan
Snapchat us?
brian redban
We should exchange our Snapchats.
joe rogan
Yeah, it'll be like what you sent me today, you fuck.
He sends me this fucking thing.
brian redban
Oh, it's great.
joe rogan
This is horrible.
This is the type of person he is.
He sends me this text message that ISIS has closed down the 405. Let's see if it affects any of the areas where you live.
Click this link.
Oh, okay.
brian redban
It's for a map of what?
joe rogan
Yeah.
And here's the...
Here I click the link and...
Oh, look.
Yeah.
unidentified
Look at that.
joe rogan
There you go, Jamie.
les stroud
It's a serious April Fool's.
unidentified
It's a thick one.
joe rogan
Yeah, I was in the airport in Mexico.
And I was like, you motherfucker.
I paid Verizon Romy Data for that.
brian redban
$40 to see some black dick.
joe rogan
I don't think it was that much.
les stroud
They're likely to throw you in jail for that.
joe rogan
Mexico?
les stroud
Mexico.
joe rogan
They're nice people.
They're not so uptight.
That's a fucking great part of the world.
If it wasn't for all the drug war shit and all the bullshit, Mexican people are the nicest fucking people.
They're so nice.
If I had one food to choose from to the day I die, it would be a tough call between Italian food and Mexican food.
brian redban
You're crazy.
joe rogan
Really?
What do you think?
brian redban
Italian, 100%.
joe rogan
But you're a pasta eater, right?
brian redban
No, no, no.
I rarely eat pasta, but I also know that Mexicans food is just like three ingredients.
Everything's the same.
It's bean or tortilla.
joe rogan
No, you get at a real Mexican joint.
They do the best skirt steak in the world.
The best skirt steak you get in Mexican restaurants.
Where they marinate it and they...
God damn, man.
There's a lot of Mexican dishes where they do it correctly.
We had some fish in Mexico, like Fresh Caught Snapper.
They have the best...
They invented ceviche.
They invented cooking things in lime juice.
You have really good ceviche from fresh fish.
Oh, it's unbelievably delicious.
A little bit of lime, some cilantro in there, a little bit of onions, tomatoes.
brian redban
Is pizza a part of this?
joe rogan
Because pizza's doughy.
The problem with me and pizza...
les stroud
And wasn't pizza invented by the Chinese, anyway?
joe rogan
Whatever it is, bro.
We took it.
We made it a little bit better.
You know what I'm saying?
They made the noodle.
We took it.
We put a little pasta sauce on that.
I don't know, man.
I'm not an aficionado in the fucking history of gluten.
But I do know that when I eat too much of it, it fucks me up.
Your body converts it to sugar.
You're eating a bowl of sugar.
When you're eating a bowl of pasta, you're eating a bowl of white flour.
You're eating a bowl of sugar.
I mean, that's really what your body thinks it is.
You get this crazy insulin fucking thing happening.
Your body's like, what is all this fucking sugar?
You don't get that if you just eat vegetables and meats.
Even beans don't give you that spike the same way.
Those pasta dishes and heavy, heavy bread dishes, they're just not good for you, man.
They're just not.
They taste fucking amazing.
You know, like a good lasagna.
Oh, Christ.
That belly-stretching feeling when you know you've eaten something virtually indigestible.
But it's awesome.
brian redban
Tour of Italy.
joe rogan
I'm sure.
brian redban
It's great.
joe rogan
I'm sure.
You know, and I would love to know what pasta was like before they started monkeying around with wheat.
Because they think that, like, somewhere around the early 1900s, they started, like, doing something to wheat to make it more durable, to make greater yields, and to make it be a little bit more hardy.
And they just changed the way wheat grows.
They changed the actual consistency of the plant.
And from then on, it became like harder and harder for people to digest it, apparently.
That's the idea.
And then, the other idea is that these processed flours, it's just, your body's just not, that's not how it's supposed to be eaten.
Everybody doesn't know what to do with that.
It's like, what the fuck is this?
Like, eat a bowl of sugar.
Like, if you had some sugar and you put, that doesn't exist in nature.
In nature, sugar comes attached to fiber.
It comes attached to vitamins.
It's like a reward for eating fruit.
You eat oranges.
It tastes delicious.
You're getting that sugar, but you're also getting vitamin C. You're getting all that fiber.
It's like a trick to get you to eat something delicious so that you will shit out the seeds and fertilize those seeds.
Nature's got a whole system set up.
It doesn't exist with a bowl of sugar.
You pour a bowl of sugar on your fucking Frosted Flakes.
That's something that doesn't exist in nature.
Tell me you didn't do that.
Did you ever have frosted flakes and you poured sugar on top of them?
I never did that.
brian redban
I never did that.
It sounds great though.
joe rogan
Delicious.
It's delicious.
You know, you're at the edge of darkness.
Double frost them frosted flakes.
You fucking suck this sugar.
You suck.
Spoonfuls of it.
Then you drink the milk.
brian redban
Mmm.
It tastes like C2O coconut water.
joe rogan
Nope.
It's better.
It's better.
Frosted flake milk might be the best thing ever.
Might be the best.
Fuck champagne.
les stroud
It's just liquid sugar.
joe rogan
How much you paying for that Cabernet Sauvignon?
Frosted Flakes milk.
If you were in the mood for Frosted Flakes milk at the end of a bowl of Frosted Flakes that you double-sugared, and someone ordered you a glass of Cabernet, you'd be like, get that sloppy, nasty, bitter shit out of my face.
I'm about to feast on some Frosted Flakes milk.
brian redban
Raisin bran with sugar.
joe rogan
What do you think Bigfoot eats?
unidentified
It's got to be eaten a lot.
joe rogan
He's pretty big.
If you had a guess.
Elk?
les stroud
Elk.
Mushrooms.
What do they say?
They say elk mushrooms, berries, roots, tubers, shoots, grasses, deer.
joe rogan
But if it was elk, wouldn't you find like a carcass?
We found a moose carcass when it was up in BC that had been killed by wolves.
les stroud
These researchers say they do find them.
unidentified
Really?
Yeah.
joe rogan
These researchers?
Like the ones who wear rubber suits?
les stroud
What else do you think I got to go on?
It's just people who are into the subject matter.
Right.
joe rogan
Do they take photos of these carcasses?
They have photos?
les stroud
They put them on land?
No, they're taking photos and they're measuring them.
They're doing everything scientifically now.
joe rogan
But if you found a carcass, right, you'd probably be able to get some DNA off that or something was pretty, you know, praying.
les stroud
Depends on how old it is, right?
You know, you already said yourself, the DNA thing's pretty unstable.
joe rogan
Right.
Out of all those sources, of all the different people that are quote-unquote researchers, what do you think is the most credible organization?
unidentified
Les Stroud, Bigfoot, staff, and crew.
les stroud
Survivorman Bigfoot.
Yeah, credible?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian redban
4chan.
les stroud
4chan?
Reddit?
Whoever's got nothing, whoever doesn't have a stake in it.
joe rogan
Right, but doesn't everybody have a stake in it?
Could be.
Once you spend a night in the woods, you have a stake in it more than the guy who watches it on TV and goes, bitch, you have more of a stake.
les stroud
That's an emotional stake.
I'm talking about a financial stake.
joe rogan
Well, you have a financial stake, too, because it's not free to go live in the woods.
If you do, you've got to eat food that you have to buy.
You have to make sure that you're not working back in the city and earning money, so it'll cost you money in that regard.
You have to have gear, which costs money.
les stroud
The hell are you talking about?
joe rogan
You have to have camping gear.
les stroud
Yeah, okay.
joe rogan
What am I talking about?
What do you mean?
les stroud
What the fuck's that got to do?
joe rogan
There's a stake.
You spent your time, which is money.
Time equals money to most people.
There's a stake in that.
You've invested your sanity.
les stroud
I mean if you're out for profit.
If you're out for profit.
joe rogan
Okay.
Those guys, they're suspect, right?
les stroud
They've got to be suspect.
unidentified
Of course.
joe rogan
They have to be.
Because if you're a normal human being, you're going to have a bias.
That's like how you feed yourself like the finding Bigfoot folks like if you really got those dudes high on peyote and Told them to tell the real truth about every episode Like that's a good idea when you were hooting you knew that Bobo was hooting back, right?
right?
But when the camera was on and you had the night vision on, man, I heard it too.
I heard it.
I heard it for sure.
Wow!
What a night.
We definitely got a call back.
Something called us back.
It knocked wood.
Who invented wood knocking?
Who's that fuckhead?
les stroud
I wish I knew.
joe rogan
Somebody just decided that they knocked back, right?
les stroud
And knocked him up with a piece of wood.
joe rogan
Does anybody challenge that?
Is there two schools of thought when it comes to wood knocking?
les stroud
Nah, it just is what it is.
You either do it or you don't.
Some do, some don't.
joe rogan
But do you think that Sasquatches whack sticks against trees?
les stroud
I don't know.
All I know is they're talking about, they hear the sounds of, like, sticks being whacked against trees.
That's why they do it.
joe rogan
Yeah, one of the guys, when we were in Pacific Northwest, he was very skeptical about the wood knocking.
He's like, I'm not buying it.
There's, like, different camps.
Guys are like...
les stroud
Well, that's what I said.
It's that scale of believability, and they're all...
Infighting, because everybody wants to be able to say, I'm the one who figured it out.
I got the film footage.
joe rogan
Is there a Michael Jordan of Bigfoot researchers?
Is there one dude that everybody bows down to?
The one, the Hicks and Gracie of Bigfoot researchers?
les stroud
There's gotta be.
I don't know.
brian redban
Are you a knocker?
joe rogan
Yeah, are you a knocker?
Are you a hooter?
les stroud
Or a hooper?
joe rogan
Are you a hoop?
unidentified
Hoop!
Hoop!
joe rogan
What do you think about that Samurai Chatter?
You ever heard that?
You never heard Samurai Chatter?
Samurai Chatter was a guy, I want to say it was like from the 1970s, who recorded some vocalizations that sound like, and he claimed that these were Bigfoot.
You never looked into this?
les stroud
No, I haven't heard that one.
joe rogan
Yeah, we had a sound expert Uh...
unidentified
Um...
joe rogan
Analyze these for that sci-fi show.
To me, it sounds like total horseshit.
And he's like, a human voice can't make that noise.
I'm like, yes it can.
Here, I'll do it.
Like, I just did it.
Like, don't say a person can't make that.
This is a recording.
Recordings, especially from like 1970s equipment...
When you're in the woods, like field equipment, like you're not getting an absolute exact representation of the sound that you're recording.
You're getting some sort of whatever the gear is capable of picking up.
Like a really good microphone, like these microphones, these Shores, right?
What are these things?
What makes these?
Yeah.
This is like a really good microphone.
This is about as close to a...
When you hear yourself on a podcast, you go, that's definitely me.
That sounds exactly like me.
But this is a recording of you.
Like, it's not you.
It's taking you and it's recording the best possible version of your voice it can.
It's not you talking again.
So when you're hearing...
You're hearing a machine that has picked up some sound that you made...
And it's put this down as best it could in 1978 or whatever the fuck it is.
But it's not going to be exact.
It's just not.
So when anybody says, a human being can't even make that sound, well, you're right.
It has to be a tape recorder.
That's what makes that sound.
It has to record it from a human being.
But once you go through that, like, you're in some gray area.
Like, who knows what it could sound like?
unidentified
Who do you want?
joe rogan
Look at that!
Do you find it?
Did you find it?
Samurai Chatter.
Find this.
Samurai Chatter or Bigfoot sounds.
You're gonna howl.
brian redban
So the sound expert, what's that?
Like part-time sales at Best Buy?
joe rogan
No, he is a earbud aficionado.
brian redban
Oh, so he has a pair of Beats headphones?
joe rogan
Well, he has the Beats Studio Pro.
brian redban
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
The Bluetooth ones.
joe rogan
He gets the Bluetooth ones where the guy, I'm the man, I'm the man, that kind.
He's got the kind that awkwardly hook around the back of your ear when the ear buds.
No, he was a real sound expert.
He also was like he was in the Navy like he deciphered languages in the Navy First of all, I don't trust this British fuck every year Reminds me of Jolly Appleseed.
unidentified
and pulled so I couldn't figure out what the hell it was.
And so they took up a tape recorder one time and this is what they recorded.
joe rogan
It is very bizarre indeed. - How many rubber bands do you think that guy has around his balls while he's making that noise?
brian redban
Sounds like an open mic comic.
unidentified
We decided to record the sounds.
joe rogan
Oh, thank you.
unidentified
Put them on a CD and a cassette and make them available to people.
Okay. - Okay.
joe rogan
See, this is a part of the problem we're dealing with in the Bigfoot community, right?
les stroud
Yeah.
joe rogan
That kind of shit.
That kind of shit.
les stroud
Yep, exactly.
unidentified
And when you hear something like that, what do you think that is?
les stroud
I haven't got a clue.
Like you say, I mean, that could have been easily recorded by anybody.
joe rogan
What do you think it was, Brian?
brian redban
Totally somebody just doing those noises, of course.
And they just sounded like an idiot doing it.
Like, you could picture that person, what they're doing, making those noises, like an idiot.
joe rogan
I'm offended by his skepticism.
les stroud
What if it's not, though?
What if it wasn't?
What if it wasn't a human?
What if it wasn't a human?
Then what was it?
joe rogan
While we were filming the show, and I went over this, these are some things I considered.
And one time when we were at the Ice House, we got so high that I believe the Patterson footage was real for a few seconds.
I was like, what if I'm an asshole?
And what if this whole time, that is a real Bigfoot, and I've just been mocking it.
I was so high.
And then I came down.
I was like, bitch, that's a guy in a monkey suit.
Look at that fucking stupid thing!
It's so obvious.
If it looks like someone in a monkey suit, most likely it's someone in a monkey suit.
When you look at a giraffe, you never go, ah, that looks like a person in a fucking giraffe outfit.
No, they look like giraffes.
Like, they have a very giraffe-like way of walking.
That stupid fucking thing walks like a person.
But I might be wrong.
What do you think about that?
What do you think about the Patterson?
les stroud
I haven't explored it enough.
I don't know.
I think it'd be cool if you were wrong.
joe rogan
How could it be possible?
You really haven't looked into this?
You haven't looked into all the various...
les stroud
I sat with the guy who was there.
joe rogan
Which guy?
Gimlin?
les stroud
Bob Gimlin.
joe rogan
Yeah?
What'd you say?
les stroud
I just didn't smell bullshit on him when he was talking.
It sounded like he was just talking right from his heart, like this is what I saw.
joe rogan
Nobody ever accused Gimlin of being a part of it though, right?
They accused Roger Patterson, the guy who filmed it, who went to jail for writing a bad check to pay for the very camera he used to film Bigfoot.
Known con man.
And then there was the other guy who said he was in the suit.
What was his name?
unidentified
Bob...
les stroud
He was also proven to be bullshitting.
joe rogan
No way.
Bullshitters were bullshitting?
les stroud
Yeah, that's the problem.
joe rogan
Hieronymus.
Bob Hieronymus.
Yeah, I remembered.
Who was a big guy who walked a lot like Bigfoot.
Like, there's this video footage, a montage of Bob Hieronymus next to the Patterson footage, and he walks just like it.
les stroud
Nailed it.
joe rogan
You ever seen that?
les stroud
No.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's a big, gangly-looking cowboy motherfucker.
One of those dudes who has those giant belt buckles, and it looks normal on him.
You know, there's certain dudes, you see him with a giant, like, rodeo belt buckle, you go, yeah.
Okay, that's what he would wear.
brian redban
You can pull it off.
joe rogan
Here, look at this.
Look at this guy.
brian redban
Hilarious.
joe rogan
I mean, come on.
That's him.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
That's Bob Hieronymus.
I mean, that is Bob Hieronymus, and that is the Bigfoot thing behind him.
I mean, Jesus Christ.
brian redban
Yeah, that's ridiculous.
joe rogan
It's him.
I mean, fucking get out of here.
That's that dude.
brian redban
That's hilarious.
I've never seen that before.
That's fucking hilarious.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's just got some gorilla arms that are, like, extra long at the end.
You know, he's got some fake hand, got some fake fur thing on.
Or it's a female Sasquatch.
What do you think?
les stroud
It had titties.
joe rogan
Okay, if you had to push all your chips, you got all your money here.
Where are we going to go here, Les?
unidentified
What are we going to do?
les stroud
I don't gamble.
joe rogan
Are we going all in on, yes, it's Bigfoot, or all in on Bob Hieronymus is telling the truth?
les stroud
All in on, I don't gamble.
That's why I'm going out there.
joe rogan
You don't gamble at all?
les stroud
I don't gamble.
I can't gamble for shit.
joe rogan
Come on, son.
A little bit of roulette.
What about bet on fights?
What if George St. Pierre was fighting?
les stroud
I bet on fights.
I did.
I bet on one.
joe rogan
Come on, I was a strong Canadian.
There you go.
You bet.
So you bet.
So this is like an educated guess as well.
Okay, how about this?
How about this?
Forget all in.
les stroud
Okay.
joe rogan
Let's make it 50 bucks.
Nothing crazy.
Nothing crazy.
Just bragging rights and 50 bucks.
les stroud
I'm going with it that there's something there.
joe rogan
That thing?
That video.
les stroud
Oh, you're talking about the video?
Just the video?
joe rogan
That video.
unidentified
Oh.
les stroud
Bullshit.
I can't gamble on that because I just don't know enough.
joe rogan
I am closing my eyes and pushing the whole bag of chips towards bullshit.
les stroud
I know you are.
brian redban
All the money in the world, bullshit.
joe rogan
Wow, that's a strong word.
He didn't even spell word world wrong.
brian redban
And I don't like gambling.
joe rogan
And he doesn't like gambling.
brian redban
Unless it's no condiment.
les stroud
We're not trying to pitch on you.
joe rogan
Look, we're not trying to gang up on you.
les stroud
You're not gang up on me, man.
joe rogan
It seems like we're ganging up on you.
les stroud
No, you're not gang up.
joe rogan
Okay, I know.
les stroud
I'll take both your bets.
joe rogan
Listen, you know I love you.
I want you to be successful.
les stroud
Take both your bets.
joe rogan
Out of all these assholes, this guy that pretends he has Bigfoot in his cooler.
That shithead.
les stroud
Rick Dyer.
joe rogan
All these guys.
The guy who says he shot Bigfoot.
All these fucking guys.
Their stories are all very fantastical.
les stroud
That's why I just look them all straight in their face and go, Show me what you got.
Oh, you think it's scary on the mountain over there?
Okay, well, I'll stay out there tonight and see what happens.
joe rogan
If one fucking dude had it, though, imagine.
One dude found the footage.
unidentified
That's it.
les stroud
Oh, it takes one.
joe rogan
That's all it takes.
One dude.
Goddamn, son.
That would be the coolest shit ever.
But why?
That's what I want to know.
Why would that be cooler than a tiger?
Why would that be cooler than a killer whale?
Why would that be cooler than a shoebill?
les stroud
Because if it's there, we think it's a missing link.
That's why.
joe rogan
There's no missing link.
It doesn't really work that way.
That's like some archaic thinking.
les stroud
Right.
joe rogan
It's very non-scientific.
les stroud
And there's no archaic thinking going on in North America today.
joe rogan
No, there's not.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
The Religious Freedom Act doesn't have anything to do with...
That's not what it's about, man.
It's about Jesus.
You don't even fucking know, man.
It's just, it seems to be out of all the things that are like, all the mysteries, it's one of the most probable, which is one of the most exciting things about it.
Like, the Loch Ness Monster, oh man, what are the idea that some long-necked dinosaur thing is living in the middle of a lake in Scotland?
Fucking get out of here.
I'm not buying in on that, you know?
brian redban
I believe that more than Bigfoot.
joe rogan
Do you?
brian redban
Loch Ness, 100% more.
joe rogan
See, I don't.
I think that's way more unlikely.
It's way more unlikely that some sort of a cold-blooded reptile that's enormous, that lives in a loch, has gone undetected for this long with a breeding population, that's way too open.
Even if it is huge, it's still just water.
You would see more of them, you know?
brian redban
No, I'm saying it did exist.
I don't think it exists anymore.
joe rogan
Oh, did exist.
brian redban
Yes.
joe rogan
Well, dude, the Gigantopithecus thing, that did exist.
les stroud
The difference between unicorns and leprechauns and the Loch Ness Monster and Bigfoot...
It's mushrooms.
Bigfoot...
probably.
Bigfoot leaves tracks.
joe rogan
If you want to meet the leprechauns, you can meet them.
You just gotta take enough mushrooms.
You can meet leprechauns.
You really can.
If you eat the proper dosage of any really potent psychedelic mushroom, psychedelic DMT, anything that's really intense, transformative psychedelics, you can see things that make gremlins seem totally normal.
I think that's the root of all that shit.
That's the root of all those...
I mean, this is all people that were eating plants that they didn't even know what the fuck they did.
They didn't understand the mechanisms behind them.
They had rituals around cultivating them and keeping them.
That might be a part of the Bigfoot thing too, man.
I mean, Bigfoot might not even be a real thing.
It might be a real thing that you only can experience when you're having a psychedelic trip.
Like the idea of Bigfoot in a physical sense, it might not even be real.
It might be something that when you eat enough psychedelics, it tunes into some part of your memory that recreates this thing that lived a long time ago.
les stroud
Best question asked about Bigfoot is not what it is, it's why.
Why is it even there at all?
joe rogan
No, the best question is where is it?
Where the fuck is it?
Where the fuck is it?
You're looking for it and you're asking the wrong questions.
les stroud
Okay, this is like almost two hours.
I'm tapping it.
joe rogan
It's more than two hours.
It's almost three.
It's almost three.
les stroud
I'm tapping it.
joe rogan
Okay.
Survivor Man, Bigfoot, when is it airing?
When can people watch it?
les stroud
Discovery Channel, Science Channels, Wednesdays, Fridays.
joe rogan
Even if you're a non-believer, ladies and gentlemen, I recommend three bong hits and some good friends, and you will enjoy this goddamn show!
Les Stroud, you're a fucking man's man.
I love you.
I'm always happy to talk to you.
les stroud
Thanks, Brian.
joe rogan
I really do mean that.
If there's a Sasquatch out there, I sincerely hope that you find it.
And I sincerely hope there really is a Sasquatch.
Wouldn't that be the coolest shit?
Brian is out.
brian redban
No, I'm just...
I don't know.
I mean, if there was such a thing as a Sasquatch, I don't know if it was cool.
I'd just be like, there's a new monkey.
I don't think it's...
les stroud
Nah, be cooler than that.
Be way cooler than that.
joe rogan
What if it talked like a samurai?
unidentified
If it talked like a samurai.
joe rogan
Alright, one more time.
When can people watch it?
What network?
les stroud
Discovery Channel.
joe rogan
Discovery Channel.
les stroud
Science Channel.
Wednesdays, Fridays.
joe rogan
Wednesdays and Fridays at what time?
Usually 10. Real Les Stroud on Twitter.
Real Les Stroud on Instagram.
Facebook.
les stroud
Same thing.
joe rogan
Facebook.
Thank you, man.
This was fun.
Very impromptu.
les stroud
I know.
joe rogan
But we did it.
les stroud
At work, grab you from the comedy store.
joe rogan
Yes.
Yes.
les stroud
Perfect.
joe rogan
Alright.
Good night, everybody.
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