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Sept. 20, 2014 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion - Sept. 20, 2014
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brendan schaub
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bryan callen
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eddie bravo
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joe rogan
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joe rogan
Yeah!
What's up, everybody?
This is...
Today is...
What is this?
The 18th?
19th?
What is it?
The 20th.
20th of September.
20th now.
It's really the 19th for everybody that's paying attention.
It says September 20th, but it's really Friday night.
It's Friday night at midnight.
And this is a live fight companion podcast.
Brian Callen's supposed to be here, but of course he's fucking late.
Brendan Schott's here.
unidentified
Holla!
joe rogan
Big Brown's in the house!
And of course my brother Edgy Bra is here.
eddie bravo
Oh shit.
joe rogan
Eddie Bravo in the house.
And we're just looking at the blank screen right now while Mark Hunt is going to face Roy Big Motherfucking Country Nelson tonight.
unidentified
Oh shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, we can get some of that in there, too.
We might not be able to smoke weed with Brendan Schaub in the room, though.
brendan schaub
I'll just hold my breath.
December 6th.
joe rogan
Hmm, what's today?
brendan schaub
We have some time.
About 13 weeks.
I'll just hold my breath.
joe rogan
Can you do that?
Are you good at holding your breath?
I know you have awesome cardio.
brendan schaub
I'm like a fish.
We're good.
unidentified
I'll just suck on this coffee all night.
brendan schaub
Real quick, usually go to bed at 11, sip tea.
Usually in bed by 11, sipping tea, guys.
joe rogan
Are you really?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
11 p.m.?
brendan schaub
11, every night.
joe rogan
Wow.
Are you training tomorrow?
brendan schaub
No.
I trained twice today because I knew tonight's going to be a doozy.
joe rogan
When you schedule, when you ramp up for a fight, so you're fighting in December 6th, when you're ramping up the train.
Oh shit, where's that?
brendan schaub
The cards are Beast, Vegas, Mandalay Bay.
Two title fights, then my fight, Travis Brown.
joe rogan
That's Vitor and Weidman too, huh?
brendan schaub
And Showtime and Melendez.
joe rogan
Oh shit.
brendan schaub
And then us, big one.
joe rogan
Good lord.
eddie bravo
Any chicks fighting?
brendan schaub
Not yet.
Not that I know of.
eddie bravo
I don't watch UFCs unless there's a chick fighting.
brendan schaub
I hear ya.
Speaking of chicks, the one tonight is...
I'm telling you guys, she's a little monster.
joe rogan
Yeah, you got an issue with her.
brendan schaub
I do!
joe rogan
This little filter thing keeps rolling out.
brendan schaub
I got a little crush on her.
joe rogan
Yeah, she's kinda hot.
She was a little plump, and she got in some serious shape.
brendan schaub
Yeah, right?
Thinned out.
She's like, curvy.
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
She's like Kim Kardashian, but Japanese.
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
How cool would it be if she came out in the schoolgirl uniforms?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Remember that dude that used to do that for Pride?
He used to come out with pigtails?
brendan schaub
Yeah, weird stuff.
joe rogan
For K-1.
eddie bravo
For K-1, yeah.
Dude, the national pastime is to be into schoolgirls.
How weird is that?
brendan schaub
Her biggest thing that she's ever done, she dressed up like a bunny.
Why do I know this?
I don't know.
joe rogan
Dirty bunny.
brendan schaub
Maybe I did some research.
eddie bravo
And you know what's second?
brendan schaub
And by research, I mean maybe I jacked off.
joe rogan
We'll let you know as soon as the fights start.
I don't know why the fights are a little bit late.
It says 12.05 on my phone.
brendan schaub
Amateur hour.
joe rogan
It smells like weed in here.
It says 12.05 on my phone.
I don't know if that means somebody fucked up or they're having a problem.
We were watching it earlier, though, which doesn't make any sense.
It was live from Japan.
Goldberg and Brian Stan calling the action.
brendan schaub
Maybe it's just a delay for the main card.
By the way, I fucking love Fight Pass, dude.
joe rogan
It's awesome.
eddie bravo
I fucking love it.
joe rogan
I tweeted that Fight Pass is great.
Everybody's like, you fucking chill.
brendan schaub
I know.
unidentified
It's great.
brendan schaub
Fuck off.
joe rogan
It's great.
brendan schaub
Dude, any fight you could think of in the UFC, you could just watch it.
Pride fight.
unidentified
You could just watch it.
joe rogan
And it works.
eddie bravo
It was crazy.
brendan schaub
When I cornered Ben Saunders at the Tulsa event, I get there Friday night.
eddie bravo
I've never worked with Ben before.
He asked me to corner him like a week before, and he goes, dude, you want to come down?
And he had been playing rubber guard off and on over the years and he was playing a different version.
He was playing a version I never played.
And then he kind of moved away from it because I figured, I figured that he would hit a dead end with that style.
But I didn't want to say anything because it was kind of working for him.
brendan schaub
And then he got cut from the UFC, went to Bellator, he'd win some, he'd lose some.
eddie bravo
And I kind of lost track of what he was really doing.
brendan schaub
And then he saw the Hickson video, the video that we did here.
eddie bravo
And he Twittered me, direct message.
brendan schaub
He goes, hey man, when are you going to do a seminar in Florida?
eddie bravo
He realized he was planning stuff wrong and he wanted to fix it.
So I said, well, I don't have anything planned in Florida, but I do have a little rubber guard genius out there, a guy named Tyler Woolsey.
I go, let me hook you up with him.
They hooked up.
As soon as he got done with Tyler, he said, dude, I want you to corner me next week.
Can you do it?
I know it's last minute.
And did it.
And so Friday night, I get there Friday night, I go right to his hotel.
He has Fight Pass hooked up, right?
So, because he was studying his opponent.
His opponent, I think, it wasn't on, he wasn't, I don't think he fought in the UFC before, but he had Fight Pass.
So I said, oh shit.
So we put on, I wanted to keep it really simple for him with rubber guard.
It's so sophisticated and so vast.
There's pieces of the rubber guard that I don't even know how to play yet.
There's new pieces.
I'm like, shit, what?
What are you guys doing over here?
unidentified
Right?
eddie bravo
There's new shit that's incredible.
Half guillotine.
A guillotine from the rubber guard.
A guillotine with your leg involved.
unidentified
It's on?
joe rogan
Hold on a second.
It's on?
The fights are on?
brendan schaub
Yeah, a guy's walking out right now.
joe rogan
So what is this?
brendan schaub
I don't know what you got here.
joe rogan
Oh, is it a different thing?
Am I on the wrong thing?
That doesn't make any sense.
Live events.
Let's see.
eddie bravo
Yeah, you gotta press live event.
joe rogan
Live now.
eddie bravo
That'll be it.
joe rogan
So it didn't switch over from the prelims.
brendan schaub
There we go!
We're rolling!
joe rogan
It didn't switch over from the prelims.
That's goofy.
That's goofy.
It's like a different stream.
brendan schaub
It's coffee.
Bulletproof coffee.
Not goofy.
joe rogan
Brandon Schaub's got a little bit of a fucking coffee problem.
brendan schaub
Addiction.
And when I stop fighting, it's going to become drugs.
eddie bravo
Well, my point was, with the UFC fight passes, I get there Friday night, and we kept it really simple.
Simple rubber guard, mission control with elbows.
We put on Jason Day versus Alan Belcher.
It was an amazing display of elbows from the guard.
brendan schaub
And Matt Horwich versus Dan Miller.
eddie bravo
You know, just right there.
It would have been hard to find those fights.
brendan schaub
You know, I guess you could go to MMA Corps.
It's always tricky though, right?
joe rogan
It's tough to find them.
eddie bravo
But with UFC Fight Pass, man, boom, any UFC fight.
Is it every single fight that the UFC's ever had?
joe rogan
It's every single fight the UFC's had and every single...
There's another one of those too.
There's everything.
That's a full one too.
brendan schaub
Oh, nice.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Every single fight in Pride, too.
eddie bravo
Even the early ones, like UFC 2?
joe rogan
Everything.
eddie bravo
Everything?
joe rogan
Everything.
eddie bravo
Wow.
joe rogan
All the Strikeforce fights, too.
eddie bravo
Because everything that I could think of came up, but I'm thinking maybe the old ones.
Maybe UFC 1, even.
joe rogan
I'm pretty sure.
If I'm wrong, I apologize, but I'm pretty sure everything's in there.
eddie bravo
Let's throw it on like a...
brendan schaub
There's also a...
joe rogan
Well, we can't.
We can't.
Otherwise, we'll go off the screen because it's running through my laptop.
eddie bravo
Oh.
joe rogan
But we'll figure it out.
I don't think there's anything that's not in there.
brendan schaub
There's also a crazy show called UFC Now with a couple of cutie pies on there.
unidentified
Kapow.
brendan schaub
Brendan Schaub and Kenny Florian.
What a show.
unidentified
What?
eddie bravo
Brendan's horny and shit, man.
joe rogan
He's talking about himself.
He's talking about himself being a cutie pie.
You're not even paying attention.
He said Brandon Schaub.
A couple of cutie pies like Brandon Schaub.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I talked in the third person.
I'm sorry.
eddie bravo
I'm sorry, Eddie.
joe rogan
I was barely paying attention to you.
brendan schaub
I'm used to that with Callan.
Don't worry.
I just keep on keeping on.
joe rogan
Talon's the worst with that.
Like, he'll get into modes where he wants to say something, and it doesn't matter what the fuck you're saying.
What he has to say, like, it has no relation whatsoever to what you're saying.
And you go, wow, that's great.
I met a guy, he wrote a book, and he'll go on to this fucking...
Why are you talking about economics now?
Like, how do we get into economics?
Like, he has this thought in his head, it's like a runaway train.
He's just trying to get out of the way.
brendan schaub
It's insane, man.
joe rogan
That's why he's so funny, too.
One of the things you recognize about comedians, it's like that same thing that makes them really funny.
It's this mad dog bum rush over to get attention.
brendan schaub
Straight madness, man.
joe rogan
Nobody's better at commanding attention than Count.
brendan schaub
You know what Brian called me?
He was dead serious.
He goes, Bro, instead of selling t-shirts, I got a great idea.
He's never came to me with an idea for shit.
He goes, koozies.
We should sell koozies.
joe rogan
Oh, God.
brendan schaub
I went, are you fucking kidding me?
joe rogan
Beer koozies?
brendan schaub
Yes!
joe rogan
Who buys beer koozies still?
How much of a drunk are you?
unidentified
I need my beer just a little insulated.
eddie bravo
I thought you meant jacuzzis.
unidentified
I was like, that's the dumbest idea ever.
Can you imagine the warehouse you would need?
eddie bravo
Keep an inventory.
joe rogan
Fighter and the Kid jacuzzi.
brendan schaub
That's hilarious.
That makes more sense than a koozie.
joe rogan
They're both hilarious.
eddie bravo
But for a second, I'm like thinking, damn, they're jumping on Brian.
Poor Brian.
But then you said his idea.
I'm like, oh, no shit.
unidentified
Damn.
eddie bravo
Why do they always talk shit on them?
Try to sell jacuzzis.
joe rogan
It's like 1982. Well, not only that, who the fuck's got room for a jacuzzi?
Kyoji Horiguchi.
I'm not familiar with him.
Who's his opponent?
Do we know?
We've got to pay attention here.
eddie bravo
I've got a badass jacuzzi.
I've used it once.
Seriously, in three years, once.
joe rogan
Let's see who these guys are that are fighting here.
Powerful Ariane in Japan.
brendan schaub
Hola.
eddie bravo
I hadn't seen her in a while.
I thought maybe she was taking a break.
joe rogan
Well, she's busy.
She's got a TV show now.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
She's on Overhauling.
brendan schaub
Yeah, she's the host of Overhauling.
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Yeah, and Spike, right?
joe rogan
That's Bud's show, Brian.
It's Hiraguchi and Delos Reyes.
That's Bud's show, where they take a car and they completely redo it for like a week.
eddie bravo
He has nothing to do with that show anymore, right?
joe rogan
Yes, he does now.
eddie bravo
Oh, he still does?
joe rogan
He's back on it.
Yeah, he's back.
unidentified
Huh.
joe rogan
Yeah, Bud owns it again.
Or he's a producer of it again.
One of those things.
eddie bravo
Yeah, it was his show.
It was his idea.
joe rogan
I don't know what happened.
You know, I'm just happy he's doing it again.
brendan schaub
Ooh, hell of a body kick, son.
eddie bravo
It's over.
It's over.
joe rogan
You never know.
No, it's over.
brendan schaub
He's doing the smart thing, recovering.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's on the bottom.
eddie bravo
You don't recover from that.
brendan schaub
You can like this, though.
Like this, though, you can.
joe rogan
You can if the guy stays on him.
See, if the guy was smart and he's a striker, if he's that good of a striker, he'd probably try to get away, right?
brendan schaub
Yes, 100%.
joe rogan
Because that guy would be much more helpless in a non-clinching situation.
brendan schaub
Well, the raffle will force him to stand up, too.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Liotto Machido told me that.
You get hit to the body, drop to your butt to buy time until the ref stands you up.
joe rogan
Well, Tito did that with him, remember?
He caught Tito with that body shot, that knee to the body.
brendan schaub
That's right.
eddie bravo
That's pulling guard, though.
joe rogan
That was a slick move by Tito.
eddie bravo
That's pulling guard.
joe rogan
He's being silly.
brendan schaub
But you're going to get finished.
joe rogan
Eddie Bravo's being sarcastic, and he's a master guard player, and 90% of people won't catch that.
I thought maybe he was saying it in MMA. I thought he was saying it in MMA. 90% of people won't catch it.
I'm just telling you right now.
I know the Eddie Bravo humor.
eddie bravo
You gotta stand up.
joe rogan
To him, it's like chess moves that are really stupid.
You see someone doing a dumb chess move, and you and I are like, what is he talking about?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, other people, you know, who know Eddie, you know exactly what he's doing.
He's always said that...
I mean, we're seeing it.
We saw it with your boy.
eddie bravo
Sometimes you gotta pull guard.
Sometimes you gotta.
It shouldn't be your first option, but it should be in the third.
joe rogan
Look how good Ben Saunders control was.
It was amazing.
brendan schaub
Bro, if I'm for Doom and Kane's beat me up against the cage, I'm pulling half guard.
eddie bravo
Sometimes you have to.
joe rogan
Meanwhile, this is a good fucking fight.
brendan schaub
Yeah, it is.
Really good fight.
eddie bravo
He recovered.
joe rogan
Yeah, he got out of it, man.
But that Haraguchi dude, that guy's got a nasty left kick to the body.
Oh, he's trying to pay him back for it.
Oh, he did too.
He did too.
eddie bravo
Are these guys 45ers?
joe rogan
Um, I don't know.
brendan schaub
They look like 55ers.
joe rogan
See, I was going to say 35. 25?
brendan schaub
No!
unidentified
No!
They're flyweights?
joe rogan
Oh my god, they're giant.
eddie bravo
No way.
joe rogan
Well, you know, no one is really a fucking flyweight anymore.
They're all like 150 pounds and then they're a flyweight for an hour.
I mean, that's what's going on now with all these weight classes.
Dude, you know, I had Mike Dolce on.
Jesus, Dolce was telling me that Nick Lentz walks around at like a buck 70, a buck 75, and he gets down to 145. That's insane.
And he was struggling to get down to 55 before he came to Dolce.
It's not good.
brendan schaub
Either way, there's going to be a diminishing return.
You know what I'm saying?
I don't care what Dolce says, and I love Dolce as much as the next guy, but no matter what you say, that can't be healthy.
joe rogan
Does he have to be that big?
eddie bravo
No, but there's healthier ways to do it.
brendan schaub
Healthier ways, but there's no way he's performing at it.
joe rogan
I think you're right.
eddie bravo
The way Nick Lentz cuts, though, he was saying, yes, he walks around at 175 or whatever, and he does get to 45, but he does it...
joe rogan
Oh, he hurt him again.
brendan schaub
Oh, Jesus.
These boys are scrapping.
joe rogan
These guys are...
Going after it.
Oh!
Horiguchi's a bad motherfucker on his feet, man.
Jesus Christ.
Nasty.
Striking.
But Delos Rios got him on his back again.
Oh, but he's getting eaten up.
Oh, these are hard shots.
brendan schaub
Oh, he's in trouble now.
Oh, this might be it.
joe rogan
That's it.
He's a bad motherfucker.
Oh, shit.
The kid is here.
unidentified
The kid is here dressed like he's going to take the SATs.
joe rogan
Is that a bottle of wine?
You savage.
Of course he did.
He would bring wine camping if you let him.
He'd be that guy on our hunting trip.
eddie bravo
Brian, I'm on your side today, okay?
I'm not gonna gang up on it.
It's us two.
joe rogan
It's me and you, kid.
eddie bravo
Me and you, kid, against these guys.
bryan callen
You never have to worry about my feelings.
brendan schaub
Brian, before you came in...
eddie bravo
I feel too bad, sir.
I can't sacrifice my own integrity.
bryan callen
You guys came down on me a little hard.
You didn't believe my nose story.
I mean, it was very, very bad.
brendan schaub
Before you came in, look at that left hook.
Before you came in, Eddie goes, we should sell...
unidentified
Koozies.
brendan schaub
We should sell koozies.
I was like, nah, I don't think so, man.
Ask Brian.
joe rogan
Eddie Bravo was thinking you should probably sell some sort of hot tub type equipment.
eddie bravo
I thought he meant jacuzzis.
I'm like, what a dumb idea.
bryan callen
Hot tub equipment.
Hot tub equipment.
joe rogan
You just missed this Haraguchi.
He's a bad motherfucker.
Dude, these are flyweights.
Can you believe these are 125ers?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Maybe it's a perspective issue.
Yeah, apparently it is.
bryan callen
They might be 4'5".
joe rogan
No, the height is up there.
bryan callen
Crazy.
joe rogan
It's on the thing.
One guy is 65 inches, the other guy is 66 inches.
unidentified
What is that?
bryan callen
I have a new boyfriend, so it doesn't really matter.
brendan schaub
Oh, Brian loves Akiyama.
unidentified
That's my new boyfriend.
brendan schaub
He's obsessed with Akiyama.
joe rogan
He's a beautiful man.
bryan callen
He's a beautiful man.
joe rogan
You know he sings?
brendan schaub
Voice of an angel.
bryan callen
You know he sings?
joe rogan
Gigantic superstar.
unidentified
Correct.
joe rogan
In Korea, right?
brendan schaub
Sells out auditoriums.
joe rogan
Is it Korea or Japan?
bryan callen
I think he's Japanese.
He's got an amazing voice.
joe rogan
Well, he's a Japanese guy, but he's of Korean descent, right?
I believe so.
brendan schaub
Sent from the...
bryan callen
Akiyama, I believe, is a Japanese name.
joe rogan
Yeah, I think for some reason he's got some sort of a Korean background.
I'd look, but my TV... Jamie, can you look that up?
eddie bravo
Yes, he's actually Korean.
bryan callen
Hey, Jamie, do you have any wine glasses?
eddie bravo
He's half Korean, half Japanese.
joe rogan
No wine glasses, dude.
This is a man's place.
bryan callen
He could be full Korean.
joe rogan
Use a goddamn coffee mug.
Use a goddamn coffee mug.
You don't need a special glass for your fucking fruity drink.
bryan callen
But I do!
brendan schaub
Brian Stan looks like Dikembe Mutomo.
unidentified
Dude, look how much bigger Brian Stan is to this guy.
brendan schaub
He's enormous.
eddie bravo
He looks like Godzilla compared to that dude.
joe rogan
Oh, so that's why.
It's a perspective issue.
brendan schaub
Yes.
eddie bravo
I'm with you.
joe rogan
That guy's a bad motherfucker.
brendan schaub
Super bad.
joe rogan
Wicked striking.
There is no room for anybody but bad motherfuckers at 125. You better be a black belt in everything.
Everything.
Everything.
And a black belt in cardio.
brendan schaub
70 and below, you better be a black belt in everything.
eddie bravo
Because when you're that small, especially in wrestling and jiu-jitsu, you have to be so technical to just survive in the sport.
joe rogan
Look at that left hook.
Bam!
Yeah, in everything, right?
eddie bravo
You have to be so...
joe rogan
In everything.
brendan schaub
I actually like watching the lighter weights.
joe rogan
Dude, when you got a guy like a Hector Lombard out there...
brendan schaub
What?
joe rogan
Everyone's terrified of that guy?
Who's not terrified of him?
Hector Lombard is terrified of himself.
That's how scary Hector Lombard is.
Dude, I never saw anybody ragdoll Jake Shields the way he did.
When he tossed him around, just smashed him in the first round like a fucking hurricane, like refrigerators were flying down the street in Kansas.
brendan schaub
Like a fucking tornado.
joe rogan
Jake Shields is tough as fuck.
brendan schaub
He's beat some of the best.
joe rogan
Jake Shields almost caught him at the end of that barrage.
He almost caught him in a guillotine.
He had him locked up and the bell rang.
The fucking buzzer rang with Jake on his neck.
bryan callen
When you look at Hector Lombard, you can't believe he gets down to 170. He's a beast.
unidentified
He's got cakes for days.
brendan schaub
I told you I saw him on the street from a distance.
bryan callen
Nicest ass on the planet.
joe rogan
Yo, Brian Callen, I was lucky to wrestle one.
bryan callen
Oh, Bob, I'm sorry, man.
I'm so sorry.
Hold on.
joe rogan
The fuck, buddy?
bryan callen
Hold.
Get a little 2005 Bocaio in your...
joe rogan
Do you actually know what it is?
bryan callen
It's a 2005 Bocaio.
joe rogan
Did you like buy it on purpose?
Like you knew what it was when you went out to buy it?
How did you find out?
bryan callen
You'll see.
Taste it and you tell me.
joe rogan
No, I believe it's good.
I'm not questioning that.
Because I'm a freak for wine.
What do you know?
What do you know about wine?
bryan callen
Because I like old world wines.
What's that mean?
The Europeans like earth in their wine.
You taste that earth?
You say that?
It's like cheese, meat, mushrooms, leather.
joe rogan
This tastes good.
bryan callen
Yeah.
joe rogan
I don't taste any of those things.
I taste wine.
bryan callen
Fucking people are so crazy.
The American palate likes an obvious jammy big wine for the most part.
I go with the old world wines, ladies and gentlemen.
eddie bravo
Serious question.
unidentified
Who has the best ass in MMA? Without question, 100%.
brendan schaub
Whoa, I've been doing a lot of deadlifts.
Watch your health.
Watch your PZQs.
bryan callen
Without question, without question, 100%.
A couple of honeydews.
unidentified
A couple of honeydews with cotton stretched over them.
brendan schaub
He's right.
bryan callen
Without question, Hector Lombard.
brendan schaub
He's right.
bryan callen
I couldn't peel my eyes from the man.
He was in the airport and he was going through security and he took his shoes off and I could not peel my eyes from his ass.
joe rogan
Well, you know, there's a few guys like that in the UFC that move, they move it like a notch over everybody.
Like Woodley, Tyron Woodley, when Woodley's on, when Woodley, when he knocked out Jay Heron, just the movement, it's like, get out of the way!
Just get the fuck out of the way!
When he's got this rush, there's certain guys that have this rush, and Lombard has it too.
brendan schaub
You know they ask Woodley to fight Lombard, and he's like, nah, I'm cool.
bryan callen
Straight up.
By the way.
brendan schaub
Dana said he was like, I asked him.
Dana was like, no.
He literally was like, no, I'm good.
Same thing, too.
Roy McDonald, they wanted to find him.
He's like, no, I'm cool, man.
joe rogan
How crazy is that?
It's not necessary.
brendan schaub
The baddest dudes on the planet are like, no, I'm cool.
unidentified
I'm good.
I'm good.
How crazy is it that Dana will bust these guys out like that?
joe rogan
Well, hey, I mean, that's for his business.
That's the best move.
brendan schaub
But it's not even like, you know, the guy's like, oh, no, hell no.
It's like they won't even consider it.
Oh, no, no.
No, never.
joe rogan
Is that 100% true?
Here's the thing.
What are you selling if you're selling a product like the UFC? I can see two arguments.
I can see one argument where you're like, you shouldn't talk about that because that's private.
That's the fighter's business.
But you're selling the baddest motherfuckers on the planet.
And the push is always like the Tank Abbott.
Anyone, anywhere, anytime.
It's one thing everybody loved about Tank Abbott.
He didn't fight anybody.
bryan callen
How about T.J. Dillashaw?
brendan schaub
Cowboy Cerrone's like that.
joe rogan
Cowboy Cerrone's exactly like that.
brendan schaub
It's a double-edged sword, though.
It's a double-edged sword.
joe rogan
Of course.
brendan schaub
Ask Rich Franklin about that.
joe rogan
Oh, well, it depends upon your success.
I mean, ask anybody who fought in the UFC about the benefits.
Wait, finish your point.
bryan callen
What were you saying about, Joe, you were saying...
joe rogan
You were talking about him saying that someone turned down a fight.
It's like, now you will believe him when he says, this guy will take any fight.
I can call him up at any time, like Donald Cerrone.
He'll say that about Cerrone.
I can call Donald Cerrone up and say, hey, I'm setting a fight with, fill in the blank.
He goes, alright, let's do it.
He probably has a Budweiser in his hand, he probably finishes the Budweiser, then goes jet skiing, then probably fucking shoots some guns, gets laid.
unidentified
What were you saying about TJ Dillashaw?
joe rogan
Well, he's another one, he'll fight anybody.
TJ fought, I mean, they changed his fight to Joe Soto, the fucking day of the weigh-ins.
The day of the weigh-ins, Burrell can't make weight, falls, hits his head.
Joe Soto, who had won the Bellator title, lost it to Joe Warren, got signed by the UFC, won a bunch of fights in a row, good fights.
Came to the UFC. His fucking debut, his UFC debut, he fights for the title against TJ Dillashaw.
And Dillashaw's like, I'll take it.
brendan schaub
See, that's a little different.
I think that's a little different.
It was day of the fight.
He's in shape.
He's in camp.
He's looking for a fight.
That guy steps up.
That guy's kind of screwed.
It's a different kind of animal to call somebody like, yo, Hector Lombard, you got eight weeks.
Like, cool, I'll take it.
joe rogan
That is a different animal.
eddie bravo
Hey, Brendan, do you think there's fighters out there That get off on fighting the scariest guys.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
brendan schaub
For sure.
eddie bravo
Who's like that?
For sure.
Like, they want the scariest guys.
brendan schaub
Mark Hunt.
Mark Hunt.
eddie bravo
He wants the scariest guys?
brendan schaub
Yeah, like, literally, like, when me and him were going back and forth on Twitter, the stuff you'd say to me, like, DM me, I was like, damn, this fool's for real.
unidentified
It's like...
joe rogan
I'm just looking for a blockbuster fight.
brendan schaub
He just wants to whoop my ass.
I'm trying to get paid and get a title shot.
He just wants to whoop my ass.
bryan callen
By the way, this guy, Conor McGregor, seems like the kind of guy I'll take all comers.
joe rogan
So is Dustin Poirier, man.
Dustin Poirier's a bad motherfucker.
That's a significant test for McGregor.
I think McGregor's sensational.
McGregor's sensational.
I'm a huge McGregor fan.
bryan callen
McGregor's boxing is phenomenal.
joe rogan
Well, his movement.
He's like a snake, like his in and out.
I'm telling you, Poirier is fucking legit.
brendan schaub
I agree.
I can see him winning.
joe rogan
The way he beat Eric Koch, I was like, oh shit.
eddie bravo
Yeah, that's a coin toss.
Anybody could land a big shot.
joe rogan
It's a really good fight, though.
Those guys are both really technical.
And McGregor is very unorthodox, man.
He fights from a southpaw position.
He moves like a snake.
brendan schaub
He's tough to train for.
joe rogan
He's got this in-and-out style that's very deceptive, man.
There's a lot of dudes, and you see them throwing punches and throwing kicks, but they're very mechanical.
They step forward, and they just throw predictable combinations.
bryan callen
You can get a rhythm on them.
joe rogan
But McGregor's got this wiggle.
He's got this wobble in and out.
He can counter off things.
brendan schaub
Anderson Silva almost.
Anderson Silva like him.
joe rogan
He drags guys into these things and then counters.
bryan callen
He'll just duck, come back with a right.
He's a really good boxer.
joe rogan
Jack Slack did a great slip.
bryan callen
He slipped the guy.
It wasn't in UFC. He just does stuff that you don't usually see.
brendan schaub
I don't think he's ready for a top, top level guy.
I want to see him get built up.
Dustin Poirier's going to be a...
joe rogan
It's a big test.
It's a big test.
Look, Poirier is no fucking joke.
He's legit.
And the kid has been fighting for a long time.
brendan schaub
And he's not scared of him.
joe rogan
And he's young.
brendan schaub
And he's not scared of him.
joe rogan
That's the difference.
It's true.
And a guy like Poirier is a guy that you could see a giant jump from him in just four or five months.
Because he's in this confidence groove now.
He beat Coke.
He's at this stage where he knew Coke was about to fight for the title.
brendan schaub
Yep.
joe rogan
When the fight got called because of injury, Koch was like set to fight for the title.
brendan schaub
Beast, yes.
joe rogan
Yeah, he was ready to fight for the title.
So Poirier beats him.
It beats him convincingly.
I mean, that's a big fucking win, man.
He's a beast, man.
brendan schaub
You know how we're talking about guys who take whatever fight, just go, yep, give it to us.
There's a fine line, and this is where management comes into place.
Because the fighter should always accept the fight.
Always.
A fighter should always accept the fight.
Anytime my manager calls me, I go, yep, let's do it.
It should be a manager's job.
Probably not, homeboy.
joe rogan
The manager being the guy whose ego is presumably not attached to any bullshit.
brendan schaub
True fighters are like, yeah, I can beat anyone in the world.
Get them to me.
But when you're dealing with, say you have a client at 170, and they go, hey, we want to fight Hector Lombard in Australia where he lives.
Why don't you fly down there for 20 hours to get that ass whooped?
joe rogan
You better fake an ankle injury right quick.
eddie bravo
Worst case scenario.
brendan schaub
A manager's going to be like, uh, I don't think so.
I think they'll hold out a little bit.
joe rogan
Yeah, and there's, I mean, you've, I'm sure, experienced it yourself, the difference between you now and you when you're on tough.
If you could go back and fight you when you're on tough, you'd probably beat your ass.
brendan schaub
Oh my god, I'd last 20 seconds.
unidentified
See?
brendan schaub
I thought I was such a badass.
joe rogan
I was so shitty.
brendan schaub
Just super confident.
Just crazy confident.
bryan callen
It's so funny.
eddie bravo
What do you think of the new tough with the girls?
Did you see the English two episodes?
brendan schaub
Yeah, I did.
You know.
eddie bravo
I fucking love it.
brendan schaub
Do you?
joe rogan
I heard it's really good.
eddie bravo
It's really good.
unidentified
It's good.
eddie bravo
That Rose is a beast.
brendan schaub
So I trained with her in Endeavor when she very first started.
She's your next Showtime Pettis.
She can jump off the wall.
She can do flying armbars.
eddie bravo
She's a little beast.
joe rogan
Dude, have you seen her flying armbar finish?
She is going after this chick.
Have you seen it?
She's going after this chick.
I mean, they're going to war.
And Rose is chasing her down with combinations.
The girl clinches up with her.
Rose throws a fucking perfect flying armbar.
And taps her immediately.
brendan schaub
She's your next superstar.
If she does well on this show, she's going to be your next.
She's your next Ronda.
eddie bravo
Her grinding grappling on the ground and positioning.
joe rogan
I don't know.
That's the only thing I ever saw.
brendan schaub
She's more fancy.
You know what I'm saying?
I know what you're saying.
unidentified
I know exactly what you're saying.
eddie bravo
Because then someone might be able to take her down and stuff her.
brendan schaub
A wrestler, yes.
joe rogan
Yeah, you might be right.
You might be right.
But god damn it.
brendan schaub
She's like very flashy.
unidentified
She's very flashy.
brendan schaub
See that arm bar though?
joe rogan
That fucking flying arm bar was ridiculous.
eddie bravo
That tells you something.
If she's doing flying arm bars, she's got to be...
At least a pretty good blue belt.
joe rogan
Dude, the way she did it.
You gotta see the way she did it.
She did it like a goddamn black belt.
brendan schaub
But you know, sometimes there's those people with like, they have one crazy move, and they're like, oh, do a shrimp for me.
Like, what the fuck?
eddie bravo
That's true.
brendan schaub
You can't even shrimp, but you can do a flying armbar.
It's because they came to the gym, and the first day they came in, they showed them a flying triangle, a flying armbar, but they can't do anything else.
eddie bravo
The first fight, it was a huge upset.
joe rogan
There it is, there it is right here.
Do you remember when Peta Pano fought Vinny Magalese and Vinny Magalese caught him with a fucking beautiful flying truck?
bryan callen
Look at that!
joe rogan
Look at that!
How wicked was that?
bryan callen
Oh, she's athletic!
joe rogan
That bitch is wild, too.
Look at her.
She's jumping around.
brendan schaub
She has the right attitude.
bryan callen
She's wild, man.
eddie bravo
She's the right attitude, man.
unidentified
Look at her.
joe rogan
She's crazy.
eddie bravo
If you watch that again...
If you watch it again, look at where her legs are on the arm bars.
brendan schaub
Eddie said, I don't think so.
eddie bravo
No, no, no.
I'm just saying.
Her legs are in a very bad spot as far as an arm bar.
joe rogan
Look at her legs.
eddie bravo
Look at her left leg.
joe rogan
It's between the two arms.
eddie bravo
No, her left leg is between the girl's legs.
joe rogan
Well, at the end of it, it wasn't though, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Let me see.
Let's see it again.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I just thought at the end it wasn't.
joe rogan
I thought at the end she finished it with her two arms in.
eddie bravo
Look at her left leg.
Look at her left leg.
bryan callen
Boom.
eddie bravo
Left leg.
bryan callen
Look at her left leg.
joe rogan
Oh, you're right.
It's trapped in between the legs.
unidentified
Oh, shit.
eddie bravo
I don't know what that means.
unidentified
Eddie Bravo.
eddie bravo
I don't know what that means.
brendan schaub
Eddie Bravo, you might know a thing or two about jiu-jitsu.
bryan callen
You might know a thing or two.
eddie bravo
I mean, that's a glaring.
That was glaring.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's true.
unidentified
I didn't even know.
brendan schaub
I didn't even see it.
eddie bravo
Well, you know, when you teach every day, I'm analyzing everybody.
Like, I'm in analyze mode the whole time.
I'm just looking at everyone's techniques.
I can't help it every time I'm just correcting.
joe rogan
That's so true, but if she got into this situation, do you think she should have tried to finish it before she got her leg free?
Or if she felt strong, should she have gone for it the way she did?
Because she was obviously tangled up like that.
eddie bravo
It's hard to tell what was going on in her mind.
Maybe she thought, I know my leg's in a bad spot, but she's just leaving her leg hanging, so I'm just going to keep it there.
I don't know.
brendan schaub
She must be pretty confident in that.
eddie bravo
See, that girl's right leg was just dangling over.
joe rogan
She wasn't using it to defend.
But damn, how quick did she hit that fucking flying arm bar, man?
This shit was beautiful.
brendan schaub
She has the attitude to be a champion, I'll put it that way.
joe rogan
She's wild, man.
And that whole wild dance she did after she won?
eddie bravo
She's definitely the hottest one.
That's a hundred percent.
brendan schaub
That's important too.
eddie bravo
That's a hundred percent.
unidentified
For real?
Are you kidding?
Are you kidding?
eddie bravo
She's legit.
brendan schaub
And she's attractive.
She's a pretty star.
bryan callen
And she's hot.
By the way, she is beautiful.
eddie bravo
I mean, her face is, she's like a little Angelina Jolie.
bryan callen
Yep.
She's a cutie pie.
joe rogan
Very beautiful.
bryan callen
She's a straight up cutie pie.
joe rogan
Pat Barry's girlfriend.
unidentified
Yep.
bryan callen
So be respectful.
eddie bravo
Good work.
joe rogan
Yeah, he did well.
eddie bravo
Yeah.
joe rogan
Okay, so we got Kichi.
brendan schaub
You're so lame.
joe rogan
Hey, can I come back up?
Thanks for the invite to dinner, bro.
brendan schaub
What?
bryan callen
Thanks for the invite to dinner.
joe rogan
Hey, guys, there's fights going on right now.
bryan callen
I know, but...
joe rogan
Fucking selfish, bitch.
bryan callen
All right.
joe rogan
Kichi Kunimoto and Richard Walsh.
Fight companion to life, man.
Fight companion to life.
bryan callen
Hey, Brennan.
joe rogan
Thanks, Brennan.
Salute, my brother.
unidentified
Salute.
bryan callen
Unbelievable.
joe rogan
Powerful Eddie Bravo catching the bad positioning on the ledge.
unidentified
Yeah, right?
brendan schaub
I didn't see it.
bryan callen
I'm with my family.
joe rogan
That was nice.
eddie bravo
Fix that, Rose.
Fix it.
Pat, get on it.
joe rogan
Or just finishing bitches like that.
eddie bravo
Pat, come on.
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
Kunimoto.
brendan schaub
Pat, for sure, teach her that flying iron bar.
joe rogan
Everybody goes to that deep half now, Eddie, huh?
bryan callen
Keep your hands up, bro.
eddie bravo
I missed that.
joe rogan
A lot of guys go to the deep half on the ground now, don't they?
eddie bravo
In and out.
You gotta go in and out.
You don't have time to play around.
joe rogan
That's not a thing where you can sit, right?
The deep half, you just gotta go with it, right?
unidentified
In and out.
eddie bravo
Boom, boom.
Slingshot.
brendan schaub
Everyone's growing their beard out, though, huh?
joe rogan
Sexy.
brendan schaub
I can't do it.
joe rogan
It's very lumberjack-like.
bryan callen
You can't grow a beard, huh?
Too smooth, huh?
brendan schaub
Travis Brown got me beating that area.
bryan callen
Yeah, he does.
joe rogan
So when you grow a beard, does it just look like a homeless banjo player type beard?
brendan schaub
Yeah, I look like Venice, Venice freaking selling bullshit art.
bryan callen
Who's the giant asking for spare change?
joe rogan
Oh, Kunimoto got cracked!
Big kick!
brendan schaub
Oh, man.
eddie bravo
Look at that.
joe rogan
Walsh is a beast.
Strong striker.
eddie bravo
He looks like Kit Dale.
joe rogan
He does.
unidentified
A lot.
bryan callen
Kuranamoto is in Japan.
He cannot lose.
joe rogan
Kid Tail's got a funny Instagram page.
Oh, Kunimoto's busted up, man.
Somebody's busted up.
bryan callen
It's a lot of blood.
brendan schaub
It looks like his nose, though.
joe rogan
Oh, nice knee to the body. - Surprise, some walls keep in the country.
Yeah, that is like a standard masculine look now.
The big crazy beard.
brendan schaub
Everyone's kind of doing it, though.
Everyone's kind of doing it.
joe rogan
It didn't exist just a few years ago.
It's weird.
brendan schaub
It was kind of like the tramp stamp years ago.
bryan callen
It existed in the 70s.
joe rogan
It's all cyclical.
bryan callen
Styles come and go.
joe rogan
Okay, Dad.
bryan callen
I wonder what that is.
joe rogan
What the fuck was that?
Will you give it a lecture?
bryan callen
Trends come and go, boys.
But why is that?
Why do some trends happen?
Like, why do people also start growing beards?
unidentified
Why?
joe rogan
How about bell bottoms?
How the fuck did that happen?
bryan callen
Like, what is it?
How does a trend start?
brendan schaub
Skinny jeans.
Skinny jeans.
unidentified
Right.
brendan schaub
Now you got big guys wearing skinny jeans.
unidentified
But what is it?
bryan callen
It's so interesting how...
I think it's a culture...
If something happens in a culture...
And it manifests itself in how people decorate themselves.
brendan schaub
Pop culture.
Pop culture.
They see celebrities doing it and then they jump on it.
joe rogan
Brendan, are you using the diamond cup?
What do you use to protect your cap?
unidentified
Diamond cup.
brendan schaub
Yeah, diamond cup.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bryan callen
Is that really good?
brendan schaub
Only the best for this hobby.
joe rogan
I hear you, brother.
Have you ever fucked around with a Thai steel cup?
brendan schaub
I have.
Yeah, what's better?
I feel like it gets more in the way of things.
Especially grappling.
Have you grappled in a lot?
joe rogan
Well, that's what I was thinking.
No, I have never grappled in a Thai steel cup.
But I would imagine that...
First of all, you know, I rolled with...
Remember Amir?
Amir...
brendan schaub
Sadala?
joe rogan
No, the other.
eddie bravo
Renovardi?
joe rogan
Amir Renovardi.
brendan schaub
My bad.
joe rogan
I rolled with Amir Renovardi at Legends, and he used to roll with a Thai steel cup on, and he would mount you.
He'd use it as a weapon.
It was really rude.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Strong guy anyway.
It's so crazy.
eddie bravo
That is so crazy that the IBJJF outlawed cups.
You're not allowed to protect your balls because cups are so dangerous.
brendan schaub
I agree with it.
eddie bravo
You're not allowed to protect your balls.
brendan schaub
The leverage is intense, man.
joe rogan
I agree, but I think a cup that doesn't hurt, like a diamond cup, like a softer plastic cup, I think should be okay.
eddie bravo
There should be a foam one.
There should be a foam one.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
God damn it.
I broke my balls once.
I had dick bleeding once.
brendan schaub
Bro, you know I only wear a cup when I'm fighting.
I only wear a cup when I'm fighting.
I never wore a cup in football all the years.
Really?
Only when I fight, I wear a cup.
bryan callen
Because you might get kicked in the balls.
brendan schaub
Well, you have to wear it in the UFC. I wouldn't wear one if I didn't have to.
joe rogan
One of the military guys lost a ball.
One of the Miltich guys.
God, I forget his name.
He's a really talented fighter.
In training.
And it was one of those things where you're like, I don't need a cup.
We'll just go light.
eddie bravo
You told me this before.
brendan schaub
And you got me hooked up with the diamond cup since you told me this story.
I still don't give a shit.
unidentified
Look what Lance Armstrong did with one nut.
What is the difference between a regular hug watcher and a diamond cup?
joe rogan
Remember that?
If you think about Lance Armstrong, man, first of all, Lance Armstrong, you could never do what Lance Armstrong was doing in the UFC because you'd get caught.
You'd get caught, simply.
Are you saying because he's taking a lot of drugs He won the Tour de France I think that maybe Him taking a lot of drugs Was one of the reasons why he won the Tour de France Dude, maybe Some chemicals were involved That guy was a fucking science experiment, man.
He was a fucking science experiment.
brendan schaub
Everyone was, though.
Let's be honest, everyone was.
joe rogan
You're 100% right.
Chael Sonnen said it best.
He would know.
He's like, look, the guy was the best cheater.
He goes, that's what he was.
He was the best cheater.
He probably had some genetic advantages, but he's the best shooter.
brendan schaub
That's the thing with baseball, too.
They're like, oh, these guys, steroids, blah, blah, blah.
The pitcher's on steroids, too, man.
I hate to tell you, it's a level playing field.
joe rogan
Oh, it's over?
We missed the ending.
We're talking all this shit.
Oh, he hooked him on the left hook.
brendan schaub
That guy is tan as shit.
joe rogan
Oh, nice.
unidentified
Oh, beautiful.
bryan callen
Ugh, that's gotta hurt.
unidentified
Ugh.
bryan callen
He's tough, though.
joe rogan
Yeah, if there's anything to suck at in MMA, or to not be as good or suck in comparison to your opponent, the scary thing is striking.
Goddamn.
That's why a guy like a Lombard is so fucking terrifying, because he does both.
bryan callen
He does both.
joe rogan
You ever see that video of him breaking that dude's leg in a grappling competition?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
You hear it snap.
You've seen it, Eddie.
eddie bravo
Which one?
joe rogan
Hector Lombard snapped some dude's leg.
brendan schaub
What part of his leg?
I don't remember.
bryan callen
What part of his leg?
joe rogan
I don't know.
It looked like an ankle lock, so probably his ankle.
bryan callen
Oh, God.
joe rogan
Or down by the bottom of his leg.
I mean, he just snapped this dude's leg.
You hear it.
You hear the crack.
I don't remember what kind of leg lock it was, but it was nasty.
brendan schaub
Did he hang onto it like Palahari style?
joe rogan
He just snapped it.
Just the guy screamed and it was over.
He's a fucking freak, dude.
Okay, this fight is not over, man.
That was just in between rounds.
eddie bravo
Jesus.
joe rogan
Wow, that guy is still in there.
By the way, who is fucking tougher if you had a generalization about a nation?
For, like, guys who can take it.
Japanese guys can fucking take it.
bryan callen
Well, I actually know that...
brendan schaub
Samoans are no pun.
joe rogan
Oh, they're the hardest.
bryan callen
They've done some studies on the people that can endure the toughest.
eddie bravo
Don't forget about the Mexicans.
bryan callen
The toughest soldiers, they say, traditionally are Koreans and Turks.
Their legendary ability to endure hardship and stuff.
joe rogan
That's interesting.
bryan callen
But then again, Mexicans are tough.
joe rogan
There's some Korean fighters that are really good.
There's a few Korean fighters that are really good.
Korea's started to build this really good base now.
bryan callen
Well, Korea was invaded 400 times.
brendan schaub
Whole man Choi making a comeback.
joe rogan
Is he?
brendan schaub
Yep.
That's what I heard.
Looking for scrap.
joe rogan
Is he getting his pituitary gland operated on?
A lot of those guys had to do that.
brendan schaub
He's like 600 pounds.
Who's going to fight him?
joe rogan
Nobody.
But, like, Bigfoot was, like, way over 300 pounds.
Remember he fought that dude, the big jiu-jitsu dude, Eric, guy from Hawaii, Eric Pele?
eddie bravo
Oh, yeah.
brendan schaub
Remember Eric Pele?
Yeah, yeah.
Huge guy.
joe rogan
Who fought him?
Bigfoot did.
That's right.
Back in the day, I think Eric Pele beat him.
I think he knocked him out, right?
unidentified
Was that in Elite XC? Goddammit, I don't remember.
joe rogan
Find that, Jamie.
Eric Pele versus Bigfoot Silva.
Man, I can't remember what happened to that, but Pele was huge.
He was like 300 pounds.
brendan schaub
You see how Mark Hunt started camp at 340 pounds.
bryan callen
What?
joe rogan
It was light.
It's nice and light.
For Mark Hunt.
It's beautiful.
He's in good shape.
That's perfect.
That's what you want.
brendan schaub
Barely made weight.
joe rogan
Had to cut weight.
bryan callen
That's the average 14-year-old tomorrow.
joe rogan
Keeping all that weight on.
brendan schaub
Just the blueprint of healthiness.
joe rogan
He's an animal.
unidentified
Dude.
joe rogan
I'm a Mark Hunt fan to the end.
brendan schaub
I'm a Mark Hunt fan.
joe rogan
He's so fun.
brendan schaub
I think everyone's a Mark Hunt fan.
joe rogan
You have to be.
He's so fun.
And by the way, he's got some of the most beautiful walk-away KOs.
His KO is Stefan Struve and...
And yeah, yeah, Chris Tugger, and how about Chek Kongo?
Goddamn, that precision with that left hook he landed.
unidentified
Blap!
Blap!
brendan schaub
Scary dude, man.
joe rogan
Oh, he's tough as fuck.
And by the way, barely throws any leg kicks.
He's got legs that are like fucking telephone poles.
They're the most frightening legs.
You think if that guy kicked you...
brendan schaub
He doesn't really throw him.
He doesn't really throw him.
joe rogan
He would fuck guys up!
If he threw a lot of leg kicks, I mean, he throws them occasionally and they have a lot of power behind them.
His legs are enormous.
They're fucking enormous.
brendan schaub
Even if you block it, you're going to get fucked up?
joe rogan
Dude, anybody who doesn't incorporate leg kicks in their game, if they could have been there when I was first starting to do commentary and I got to see Pedro Hizzo fight when he was in his prime.
brendan schaub
Kicking Randy Couture's leg off and shit.
joe rogan
Everybody would be doing leg kicks.
It's such a ruthless weapon when it's in the hand of a guy like Pedro Hizzo.
Jesus Christ, I never heard anybody's leg kick sound like that before.
brendan schaub
Correct.
joe rogan
They inspired me to go and kick the bag like hundreds of times more.
Just being there from him doing that made me want to work out.
brendan schaub
Your leg kick's pretty crazy, my man.
joe rogan
I guarantee you.
brendan schaub
When we trained with Dwayne at your house, you were kicking it all hard.
My best friend and my brother were there.
You're like, uh, Brendan, your turn.
I was like, God damn it.
Damn it.
bryan callen
Joke and kick ridiculous stuff.
brendan schaub
Like a motherfucker.
bryan callen
It's ridiculous speed and power.
eddie bravo
It's hard to kick after him, right?
It's like trying to follow him in comedy.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I was trying to be funny.
I made some jokes.
Here I go, everybody.
Or some stupid.
eddie bravo
We've told some stories before, man.
Man.
brendan schaub
We got in the car and my brother was like, Rogan gets harder than you, huh?
I'm like, yeah, man.
Better kicker.
Fuck you guys, all right?
eddie bravo
Big deal.
Hey, check this out.
What do you call it?
brendan schaub
Maybe 15 years ago, I was hanging out with Joe.
eddie bravo
We dropped off his car to get a new stereo, and we had to kill like two hours.
So there was a gym across the street, a kickboxing gym, owned by some Middle Eastern brothers that were good at kung fu and kickboxing.
brendan schaub
Awesome.
eddie bravo
We just go, we show up, we show up, and Joe's just hanging out, and I asked the guy, I made it seem like we were interested in joining, so I asked him, I go, what kind of kicks do you guys throw here?
And he goes, oh, we throw a lot, sir.
We do these kicks and those kicks.
And I go, can you show me what kind of kicks you throw here?
So he's all warming up, stretching out, and he's about to kick this bag.
And he looks over at Joe, and he sees Joe shadowboxing a little bit.
And he asks Joe, Joe didn't want to.
brendan schaub
I wanted to set...
eddie bravo
I was setting him up.
I wanted him to kick the bag first and then have Joe kick and look at his face.
I've done this before, like at John Jocks.
It was like an old thing that I did.
And I was setting him up.
But before he kicked the bag, he looked at Joe and says, have you ever trained?
And Joe did one.
He goes, yeah.
And he goes, in what?
In Taekwondo.
And then he goes, for how long?
And it was quite a long time.
And he goes, let me see what you got.
So then Joe said, okay.
So Joe murders this fucking bag.
brendan schaub
He crushes it.
eddie bravo
He destroys the bag.
brendan schaub
He crushes it.
eddie bravo
And after he gets done with this flurry of hurricane kicks, the guy goes, hey, listen.
brendan schaub
Fuck that noise.
eddie bravo
He goes, I do this for a living.
If I have a kicking contest with him, I can get hurt and it affects my classes.
I'm going to teach.
If you guys want to come to the class, I'll show you the kicks in class.
bryan callen
Smart guy.
eddie bravo
Am I lying?
joe rogan
100% true.
bryan callen
He backed out of it.
unidentified
He wouldn't kick it.
bryan callen
Where he's kicking with Mike Delagrate?
joe rogan
Mark Delagrate.
bryan callen
Whatever his name is.
joe rogan
You know the guy's name.
I watch that fight podcast.
He doesn't know Mark Delagrate.
bryan callen
I watch that fucking...
Shut up.
brendan schaub
It's tough.
bryan callen
Shut up all of you.
I watch that video 15 times.
brendan schaub
It hurts my heart sometimes.
joe rogan
You only work with a fucking professional fighter.
bryan callen
It's Mark Delagrate.
brendan schaub
No worries.
joe rogan
You only work with a top 10 heavyweight.
No worries.
brendan schaub
I've seen a lot of guys kick.
I've grown up in gyms.
I've seen Dwayne.
I'm just saying...
The hardest kick I've ever seen, I'll go on record saying this, is Joe Rogan.
It's not just because he's my boy.
It's the hardest kick I've ever seen.
We got in the car, and I thought everyone was going to be talking about my boxing, right?
But no one said shit.
joe rogan
Everyone's talking about Rogan's kicks.
brendan schaub
I was like, yeah, pretty cool.
Fuck that guy.
Anyway, it's like, damn, man.
bryan callen
It's nutty shit, man.
brendan schaub
It's insane.
If you haven't seen it, check it out.
joe rogan
Well, I started doing it when I was a little kid.
So what?
eddie bravo
When I would commentate for King of the Cage back in the day, this was like in 2000, I would work with Joe every now and then.
He was trying to show me some shit.
And man, I was holding bags from what I felt.
This was like 2000, 2001. And I'm thinking, are kicks from a guy this size supposed to be this hard?
I didn't know.
He was showing me how to hold bags.
I'm like, this is...
I can only imagine if I didn't have the bags how it would hurt on my arms.
bryan callen
You knew your arm would break.
eddie bravo
So at John Jocks there was a bag, one bag in his jiu-jitsu school.
And it was filled, the class was filled with guys that wear black belts in karate.
They were trying to add jiu-jitsu to their system.
We had a bunch of black belts.
So I wanted to know if maybe this was just normal.
Maybe all dudes can kick like this.
So I would say, I would have guys go, Dave, can you kick the bag right here?
Dude who owned karate.
So he would kick and I go, Joe, now you kick it.
And then everyone would go, oh shit!
unidentified
It's like a shotgun.
eddie bravo
And then we're like, oh my god, it is incredible.
So then I kept doing that over and over.
I wanted to make sure I knew what I was talking about.
So I remember commentating for King of the Cage and Rico Rodriguez was a Backstage, and we were hanging out, and he was the only one I saw that would throw turning sidekicks.
And I felt Joe's turning sidekick.
Right away, he was showing me how powerful it can be.
And I remember taking a video of Joe doing turning sidekicks in his old house in the garage, showing it backstage to Rico Rodriguez.
There was no YouTuber or anything.
I'm like, look, dude, you got to take lessons from Joe Rogan.
You got to throw it out.
And I remember him looking at the screen and you couldn't really tell on that little...
It was a little LCD screen for my video camera.
My video camera I'm showing.
And he was like, hmm, I'm trying to show him.
There's no technology in 2000 at all.
I had to show him with the LCD screen.
And he was like, interesting, interesting.
And he thought I was crazy.
unidentified
The guy from Fear Factor can kick like that.
bryan callen
I watched that Instagram video.
I showed probably 50 people that...
brendan schaub
You know who can kick like a fucking mule?
And I would beg him to kick.
I would beg him to kick.
Shane Carwin.
unidentified
I said, when you fight Brock Lesnar, throw this fucking kick.
joe rogan
Well, he's built in that weird way.
Everything is too big.
His shoulders are too big.
His hands are too big.
He walked into fucking the Boulder Jiu-Jitsu school.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
He walked to Mall Easton's place.
brendan schaub
Mall Easton, yeah.
joe rogan
And I swear to God, it took me a half a second to realize it was Shane Carwin, because I thought I was watching, like, a movie.
I thought I was watching a movie where, like, the thing shows up.
unidentified
Bro.
joe rogan
He's that big!
brendan schaub
He was practicing kicks, and we kept telling him, we gotta use him, you gotta use him.
This is right before I went in the tough house.
This motherfucker decided to start using him, tore my MCL the week before I went to the ultimate fighter house.
So I went in the house with a torn MCL. He kicked me once, I said, no more, you fucking behemoth.
joe rogan
I can only imagine, if you look at how big his hands are, if you see how hard he punches, the punching power is gonna directly translate to kicking power.
If a guy has freaky punching power, he's gonna have freaky kicking power.
Almost always.
It's just a matter of, has he put in the same amount of time?
eddie bravo
Wow, this Japanese guy hung in there, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, he's got this dude on his back.
brendan schaub
If he chokes him out, this would be incredible.
joe rogan
Eddie, how funny is it that almost everybody goes with the body triangle now when they take the back?
eddie bravo
You got to.
joe rogan
Isn't it funny, though, that that used to be a thing?
Oh, we used to say that all the time.
brendan schaub
I'm never going to disagree with Eddie Bravo, ever.
I'm just saying, for my game personally, in MMA, I'm not a fan of the body triangle.
unidentified
Why?
eddie bravo
Flexibility sucks?
brendan schaub
I can do it.
eddie bravo
Why aren't you a fan?
brendan schaub
I just feel like, especially guys are so good at defending, a blue belt in the UFC with those big gloves can defend forever, so it's almost a stalling technique now.
Unless you're just a Henrik Gracie, Hiram Gracie, Eddie Bravo, Verdun, fucking nasty on someone's back, you gotta move.
You gotta move, you gotta transition to arm bar, you gotta transition to side control from it.
eddie bravo
I have no problems with that.
brendan schaub
I'm not disagreeing.
I wouldn't disagree with you.
eddie bravo
If I was going for the kill on the back, I would definitely put the body triangle in.
I would.
But if I wasn't, if I was thinking, he's too fresh.
In MMA, it seems like if you get a guy's back and he's fresh.
brendan schaub
It's tough.
Forget about it.
eddie bravo
I would transition to spiderweb, the armbar position.
I would go right to that.
Just with Ronda.
Ronda, don't mess around with the back.
But if you get someone's back late and they're kind of tired and hurt, that's when you put the rear naked choke in.
brendan schaub
That makes sense.
eddie bravo
Because guys are...
It's hard with the gloves, like you said.
brendan schaub
They grab the glove, though.
If you notice, and you're not allowed to, but they grab the glove.
So it's super tough, man.
eddie bravo
And it's tough to sneak the hand in around the neck because of the glove.
joe rogan
Do you think that there could be an argument...
Because of the fact that they're not fighting with anything on their feet.
They're kicking each other in the face.
Like, why aren't they punching each other in the face with no gloves on?
The reality being that if you punch incorrectly and if you were more wild and reckless with your punches, you would have to pay a price for it.
So we're really more protecting hands than we even are the fighter.
And in fact, it's probably better for your brain if you're getting bare knuckled.
If you're not allowed to tape your wrists up and you're not allowed to put anything on your hands, I'm sorry.
You just can't hit as hard.
You just can't.
You're going to have some movement.
You're going to have some movement in your wrists.
When you punch, you're going to have a lot of movement.
With your kicks, you don't have any fucking movement.
You're shinning people in the head.
There's no movement.
brendan schaub
Thicker, denser bone.
joe rogan
And like Terry Edom, when Ezrin Barboza wheel kicked him.
There's no movement in your fucking heel, man.
None.
So the amount of impact that you can make with a heel, like that, like a hammer.
bryan callen
You're saying people should maybe wear...
joe rogan
No, I'm not saying that.
brendan schaub
No, get rid of the gloves.
joe rogan
I'm saying get rid of the gloves.
I think there's an argument for getting rid of the gloves.
brendan schaub
You know why there's not?
Mainstream media would be like, what?
You fucking morons.
It's a four ounce glove.
It doesn't do much.
joe rogan
It's just perception.
I think honestly it probably protects the hand more than it protects anything.
From breaking the hand.
Bellator gloves, they have a good idea, because it's more curved, and it's more padded, and it protects the hand better.
eddie bravo
And why would there be padding in the back of the hand?
Why do they have padding right there?
joe rogan
Because you get backfist dudes.
You get spinning backfist guys.
eddie bravo
Oh, Jesus.
There should just be pads on the knuckles, not on the back of the hand, that big, thick thing.
It's harder to get rid of.
joe rogan
It's true, but the Bellator glove, the reason why it's so fat like that, the idea being that it's everlasting.
bryan callen
They gave it to the Japanese guy.
joe rogan
Pat...
Of course.
brendan schaub
Whoa!
unidentified
Whoa!
eddie bravo
Maybe he won that second round.
joe rogan
I don't know.
We were barely paying attention.
eddie bravo
Dude, that first round should have been 10-8.
There's no way.
This should have been a draw.
joe rogan
I think what I was saying is the Bellator glove, it supports...
brendan schaub
And there's still four-ounce?
There's still four-ounce?
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
But there's more support.
You would hate it even more, Eddie, because there's more stuff on top.
It's like thicker on top.
brendan schaub
That's what she said.
joe rogan
I think they found that they had way less handbrakes, though.
Once they started using it, they had a bunch of handbrakes.
bryan callen
The Bellator gloves?
joe rogan
Yeah.
bryan callen
That's significant, because a handbrake can take you out for six months, right?
unidentified
It can.
joe rogan
Right, but Eddie, do you see my argument?
It's not even an argument.
I'm not married to it.
I'd be happy if they kept fighting with UFC gloves.
But I think there can be a debate.
That it would probably be just as safe with no gloves and probably maybe even possibly safer and way better for grappling.
bryan callen
Have there been less pokes to the eye or more or has it been basically the same?
joe rogan
There's always like a steady amount.
It happens all the time.
bryan callen
Yeah.
brendan schaub
I would say with no gloves, if it's easier to knock a guy out, good for the show, good for the sport.
If it's easier to get submissions because you don't have all that shit, that's good for the show.
eddie bravo
It would...
brendan schaub
If it adds KOs and adds submissions, get rid of them.
joe rogan
I think if you have gloves on, you probably can KO people better.
eddie bravo
I really do.
joe rogan
I think you have way more protection on your wrist.
That's a big thing.
Your hands are wrapped up.
You feel real confident with it.
It's nice and tight.
brendan schaub
Yeah, anything to get more knockouts and more submissions.
eddie bravo
That's what we want to see.
We're not paying for decisions.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, and also, it's like, how much work is getting done?
I mean, how much work is getting done with those fucking gloves on?
eddie bravo
Spend a lot of time wrapping the hands for what, really, again?
joe rogan
Yeah.
eddie bravo
Gotta protect those hands, man.
Those hands are precious.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, think about...
eddie bravo
Fuck the cheekbones.
Fuck the cheekbones.
joe rogan
Fuck your eye sockets.
eddie bravo
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
This is kind of weird, right?
eddie bravo
Why wouldn't they pad up the eye socket?
brendan schaub
Well, this is all...
joe rogan
I think it's all remnants of boxing, you know?
I think we have a lot of ideas.
We have their scoring system.
We talk...
We don't have our own scoring system.
Our scoring system is based entirely on the boxing scoring, so the 10-point must system.
We just arbitrarily started using 10-point must because the athletic commissions had already prepared for it.
They already had judges that knew how to score a 10 for the winner, 9 for the loser.
If it's a bad round, he scored an 8. I mean, this is a way different game than boxing.
It needs its own type of fighting.
brendan schaub
I'm super into that.
I know you are.
joe rogan
Don't you think that we need a more complex scoring system?
Fuck yeah!
You and Eddie Bravo, when we worked together, Eddie Bravo used to do the in-round scoring at the UFC, and it was fucking great, because Eddie had a system.
eddie bravo
Unofficial judge.
joe rogan
Unofficial in-round scoring.
So he would sit next to us.
He would sit next to us, and then in between rounds, we would show a highlight or something, and then I'd say, Eddie, what do you think?
And Eddie would say, I gave it to this, to this, I think Verdum did that, and blah, blah, blah.
And he would break down why.
And he had a sheet, and on his sheet, he would write kicks on one side, takedowns on the other side, submissions on the other side, and he would write what type of submission, how close it was, and he had all that stuff laid out, and then afterwards, he would give a detailed reason why.
I thought that Kane won that round because of this, and he would go over all the values, You've got to write it down.
eddie bravo
It's so hard.
I didn't write it down at first.
There's so much that went on in that round.
It's hard to tell, but if you could visually see it, I would write it down.
bryan callen
Here's a question.
If somebody attempts 10 takedowns, and the guy stuffs 10 takedowns, The aggressor is more valuable.
Right.
But then he gets one.
joe rogan
What about if he wins the round, for sure.
He's winning the round if he's attempting more.
If the guy's stuffing it, that guy is not giving up too much.
bryan callen
So aggression should count as...
joe rogan
Sure.
It should be something.
brendan schaub
What about if I'm a submission artist, I pull half guard, and I'm throwing all these submission attempts, all these submission attempts, and the guy's kind of getting out of them, I'm getting nothing.
The judges see the guy on top, he's getting the points.
joe rogan
It's true.
But I see your point with that.
eddie bravo
Say that again.
A guy's trying to submit you.
brendan schaub
So let's say you and I are fighting, you pull guard, and you're throwing umoplata, triangle, arm bars non-stop for five minutes, non-stop.
The whole time I'm defending, I win the round.
unidentified
That ain't right.
eddie bravo
That ain't right, but...
brendan schaub
And I'm doing no damage.
eddie bravo
But let's say in that Ben Saunders fight, let's say that exact same thing happened every round.
He ended up taking him down and just assaulted him with those elbows and rubber guard, but he didn't finish him.
I think...
brendan schaub
When it's that clear, the judges will give it to the guy on the bottom.
eddie bravo
Because it has happened before.
It just needs to be clear with some serious threats from the bottom.
brendan schaub
That's up for debate.
You would think they would.
I bet it would be 50-50, depending on where you're fighting.
unidentified
They should.
brendan schaub
How fucking crazy is that, though?
eddie bravo
They should.
unidentified
It's crazy.
eddie bravo
Yeah.
Because...
brendan schaub
Think if the NFL NBA were like that, where it's 50-50.
eddie bravo
Let's say Ben Saunders...
brendan schaub
Don't leave it up to the judges!
eddie bravo
Let's say Ben Saunders didn't get the OMA plot, that the guy survived and the time ran out.
Who would have won that round?
You think the judges would have really gave it to the dude on top?
brendan schaub
Probably.
eddie bravo
He was in deep shit the whole time.
brendan schaub
I know, but all they do is...
A lot of them are just mentally geared towards he's on top, he's winning the round.
Because they're uneducated with jiu-jitsu.
eddie bravo
You know what ends up happening?
I'll tell you, some of these judges, man, they look at the replays, and if in the truck they're showing one dude doing all that stuff, they go, okay, they must in the truck think that dude's winning, so they do that.
joe rogan
You think so?
eddie bravo
They do that 100% for sure.
joe rogan
100% for sure.
eddie bravo
A million percent.
unidentified
A million percent.
eddie bravo
Not all of them.
Not all the judges.
Not all the judges.
joe rogan
But a few.
eddie bravo
But I know it's happened.
brendan schaub
Dude, this is the fight I'm looking most for.
joe rogan
Brendan Schaub has a weird fascination with this fight.
bryan callen
I know.
joe rogan
I don't think it's about fighting.
bryan callen
I'm kidding.
joe rogan
It's weird.
eddie bravo
I don't think it's about fighting.
joe rogan
I get this weird feeling.
bryan callen
She's a thick young lady.
She looks...
brendan schaub
Look at her picture.
unidentified
Look at her picture for the UFC. You see how thick she is?
brendan schaub
Like a little Palaharis.
eddie bravo
Look at her arms.
bryan callen
I think Misha Tate is very attractive.
She might be the most attractive female in the past.
eddie bravo
She doesn't do steroids.
No way.
bryan callen
Who?
eddie bravo
Look at that Japanese shit right there.
brendan schaub
Look at that.
eddie bravo
And then tell me, she's a cutie pie too.
brendan schaub
No, first of all, Rin grew up doing gymnastics, judo.
She trains every day.
Takes only one day off a month.
She trains four hours a day.
She has that freaking crazy workout.
She's undefeated, too.
eddie bravo
Look at those arms, dude.
Come on.
joe rogan
She's undefeated.
brendan schaub
Undefeated.
16-0.
unidentified
One draw.
bryan callen
Dude, she's no joke.
eddie bravo
She's nasty on the ground.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
eddie bravo
Right now, I'm a huge fan.
All of a sudden, I hope she's awesome.
brendan schaub
Me too.
eddie bravo
I hope she doesn't get smoked.
joe rogan
Well, what is that thing that she does?
unidentified
Look how young she is.
joe rogan
Like those weird photographs that she does.
She does like weird modeling.
brendan schaub
Oh, you mean the awesome, sexy pictures she takes, Joe?
joe rogan
I'm not saying it's bad.
It's called marketing.
brendan schaub
It's called marketing.
bryan callen
You mean the awesome.
joe rogan
I'm just saying, if it was your mom, I would say it's odd.
eddie bravo
I got a question for you, Brendan.
joe rogan
Are you going to a store, Brian?
bryan callen
No, bro.
joe rogan
Okay.
brendan schaub
It's weird you have brands stored in your car.
joe rogan
He's going to go to another party right now.
eddie bravo
Let's say Travis Brown wanted to fight you in a rash guard.
And the commission, since they're allowing girls to fight in rash guards, they decide, ooh, let's make it...
Leave it up to the fighters.
Would you allow...
If it was up to you, would you allow Travis Brown to wear a rash guard in your fight?
brendan schaub
No.
eddie bravo
Why not?
brendan schaub
Because...
eddie bravo
Girls wear them all the time.
brendan schaub
It's true.
eddie bravo
Why would you say no?
brendan schaub
But they're both in them.
eddie bravo
Would you say no?
Or would you say whatever he wants, it doesn't matter?
What would you say?
brendan schaub
I would probably say no, because if he wants to wear it, there's some sort of advantage that he thinks that he's going to have by wearing it.
So he must be hella comfortable in this rash guard.
If I pull the power move, I'm like, nah, son, take that rash guard off, because I'm not wearing one.
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
Friendly sharp playing mind games.
unidentified
But you can't, you would think, look, look, look.
eddie bravo
But what could be the advantage?
brendan schaub
I don't know.
You're nasty in a rash guard.
joe rogan
What are you talking about nasty?
Look.
Look at this.
No, behind you.
Brendan Chubb.
eddie bravo
Dude, she's yoked.
unidentified
Whoa!
joe rogan
There's your girl.
eddie bravo
Look at those legs!
joe rogan
There's all the photographs of her.
brendan schaub
She got some butt on her, son.
joe rogan
Look at her arms, man.
unidentified
It's too much.
brendan schaub
It's a little much.
I know, a little much.
joe rogan
No, no.
Because I think she would be kind of submissive.
It'd be kind of hot.
Because she's like this super strong Asian martial arts killer.
unidentified
What kind of advantage do you think you would have?
brendan schaub
Maybe a grip advantage.
unidentified
How?
brendan schaub
How would it grip you?
In the beginning, because let's say you're fighting a guy like Fabricio Verdum, who you're worried about.
You're going to get a really good sweat and warm-up on before, so I'm a little more slippery.
You know what I'm saying?
eddie bravo
You want to be slippery.
brendan schaub
Yes.
eddie bravo
Oh, I see.
So you think that it would be an advantage because it would limit your defense.
brendan schaub
Yes.
joe rogan
Especially with a guy like Verdum, right?
brendan schaub
That's what I'm saying.
eddie bravo
What if Travis Brown wanted to wear that?
You would object to it?
brendan schaub
Yeah, I'd slap him in the face.
unidentified
Really?
Yeah.
brendan schaub
At the press conference, slap him in the face.
For even considering it.
eddie bravo
I don't think that would go over well.
What if the guy you were fighting...
unidentified
Help John Jones in D.C. What if the guy you were fighting...
eddie bravo
Let's see, who could it be?
joe rogan
Did it help him?
brendan schaub
If he wants to wear a mask.
I'm down for that.
joe rogan
Does Carlos wore that in Pride?
brendan schaub
I'm down for that.
eddie bravo
Hey, what if you were fighting Crow Cop and he wanted to wear a rash guard?
Would you allow him?
Think about it.
He was not going to try to submit you.
brendan schaub
I know, but I kept taking him down.
eddie bravo
You would want to submit, but...
unidentified
I kept taking him down.
brendan schaub
I fought Kroka.
eddie bravo
Oh, wait.
That's right.
You beat him, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
eddie bravo
I forget.
I forget.
joe rogan
Yeah, and not only that...
eddie bravo
That was a bad example.
joe rogan
It would be a bad example because a kickboxer would want to have a really good guard.
Like, you would want to have that extra grip.
brendan schaub
And he wants to get up.
joe rogan
Yeah.
eddie bravo
But if you're on the bottom, how is that going to help you with the guard?
joe rogan
The extra grip, holding a guy onto you.
eddie bravo
No.
joe rogan
A lot of those guys would just try to get stood up.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
eddie bravo
You got two bottles of wine?
brendan schaub
Or Lasky and Krokop did the same.
eddie bravo
He just held on.
So you would be against...
If you had to sign a petition against...
Are you for or against rash guards in MMA? I honestly don't care that much.
brendan schaub
But if you wear a rash guard, I'm going to wear wrestling shoes.
I'm going to kick you in the face.
joe rogan
Ooh, wrestling shoes.
What if you were going up against a guy like Paul Harris?
Then no wrestling shoes.
brendan schaub
No wrestling shoes.
joe rogan
Very sweaty ankles.
brendan schaub
I'm going to oil these things out.
unidentified
Whirl them up and put a little cocoa butter on.
bryan callen
And make leg locks illegal.
joe rogan
I want to say the dude's name, but I know a dude who would lay in a mineral bath.
He would take mineral oil and lay in the bath the night before, and then he would take a shower and dry off, and then he would make weight, and even though he was not wearing any oil on him, he was so oily from the night before that as soon as he broke a sweat, it would all come through his pores, and he would just be like a fish.
brendan schaub
A seal.
Just a seal.
joe rogan
A seal.
eddie bravo
Do you think you could beat, in an MMA fight, do you think you could beat Gabby Garcia?
brendan schaub
Are you being for reals?
eddie bravo
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Yeah!
joe rogan
How dare you?
You're talking to a man.
brendan schaub
Can you punch up Gabby Garcia?
eddie bravo
Look how big she is.
brendan schaub
Gabby Garcia.
eddie bravo
And then push images.
joe rogan
She lost weight.
eddie bravo
She got slim.
brendan schaub
I don't care if she was 300 pounds.
unidentified
She's shredding.
brendan schaub
Real quick, I like Misha Tate.
I think she's very attractive.
However...
joe rogan
Rin Nakai?
brendan schaub
Yes.
Rin Nakai, I just feel like she can win this and it's going to be good for the sport.
joe rogan
Could you imagine if she became the welterweight or the bantamweight champion?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
If Rin to Kai, if she's got all these freak pictures of her in her underwear, you know, wearing fucking, like, little fucking bunny rabbit slippers and shit.
brendan schaub
This is a dangerous fight for Misha, man.
eddie bravo
She's got head movement.
brendan schaub
It's a dangerous fight for Misha.
eddie bravo
She's 10 yards away.
brendan schaub
Because she doesn't know what to expect.
joe rogan
Yeah, but she could be setting her up.
eddie bravo
Look at this little bulldog!
unidentified
What is she doing?
joe rogan
She could be setting her up.
brendan schaub
This Japanese bulldog!
joe rogan
It doesn't necessarily mean she doesn't know what she's doing.
She could be setting her up.
brendan schaub
She's going to try to get her down.
joe rogan
Oh, she doesn't know what she's doing.
eddie bravo
Come on.
joe rogan
No, she's stiff.
But she could still land, man.
But she looked very stiff.
brendan schaub
Nerves.
You got first UFC fight.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah.
unidentified
Oh!
brendan schaub
I bet she's real strong.
joe rogan
Oh, dude, Misha Tate's gonna fuck her up.
Misha Tate's looking very good here.
brendan schaub
Hey, Brian, for sure quit turning to the mic.
joe rogan
What the fuck is wrong with you?
brendan schaub
How long you been in show business, my man?
joe rogan
What the fuck is wrong with you?
He wants to be on that mic so badly.
bryan callen
I got hungry, sorry.
joe rogan
Even when he's eating.
He can't push it away.
That's my friend.
unidentified
It's right there.
eddie bravo
It's my friend.
It looks like Misha's gonna dominate.
brendan schaub
Yeah, it does.
Misha looks very strong.
Misha said, oh, you train every day except for one?
Check this out.
joe rogan
Misha looks very strong and very aggressive.
And, you know, there's another thing that she's coming off of a fight where she wasn't...
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
That's what I'm saying.
brendan schaub
Ragdonner!
Misha's jiu-jitsu is pretty solid, too.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, her overall technique is very solid.
I mean, she's the only person to ever put Ronda in a compromising position in a fight.
eddie bravo
Liz Carmouche.
brendan schaub
Liz Carmouche.
joe rogan
Oh, that's true.
That's true.
But that was when Ronda, she still does.
She does that hip toss where she grabs a hold of the headlock.
brendan schaub
It's a headlock, yes.
joe rogan
And she gives up the back all the time with that.
brendan schaub
You know why?
It's because she wasn't trained with a cage, so she wasn't used to it and got in a weird position.
joe rogan
I just feel like she's so confident.
She feels like it doesn't matter if they get her neck or whatever.
She's going to fuck them up.
That girl has such incredible laser beam focus towards victory.
She doesn't have any doubt.
unidentified
It's going to be that Beth Correa.
eddie bravo
That's going to be a great fight.
joe rogan
Is that going to actually happen?
Is that the next fight?
eddie bravo
She's got Ronda so pissed off.
bryan callen
She looks like a giant.
joe rogan
She's tough.
Well, compared to this chick, Rin Nakai.
Well, Nakai's very thick, but it doesn't seem to be working out.
brendan schaub
Rin Nakai better figure something out here.
Not that impressed, I've got to be honest.
joe rogan
Well, she's very stiff.
I mean, she can still win.
Anything can happen.
Fights are crazy.
brendan schaub
She can win with a submission.
eddie bravo
She's not going to win.
brendan schaub
She's not going to win striking.
joe rogan
You never know, man.
You never know.
No.
brendan schaub
She's not going to win striking.
Unless she just has some...
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
She got tagged with that knee.
Misha's lighting her up now.
Misha looks very smooth.
brendan schaub
Yes, she does.
eddie bravo
Misha looks great.
She's getting close to taking her down.
joe rogan
But I'm telling you, dude, weird things happen when people are durable.
And this chick seems very durable.
I'm not saying she's going to win the fight, but weird shifts can happen.
eddie bravo
Misha's a professional.
She's too good.
brendan schaub
Rinna Kai's being like, holy shit, I'm in the UFC. That's what she's thinking right now.
joe rogan
Oh shit, I'm in the UFC. By the way, this is one of the best versions of Misha we've ever seen, if not the best.
brendan schaub
You don't think it's the opponent she's facing?
joe rogan
I'm sure it has something to do with it.
No, but seriously, she looks very good.
eddie bravo
Shaw be nice.
joe rogan
No, he's being honest.
brendan schaub
I'm being dead honest.
It's like when O'Ream fought Frank Mare.
I'm the biggest Frank Mare fan in the world.
Everyone's like, oh my god, the Ream is back!
Or was he fighting a human punching bag?
unidentified
Frank Mare did nothing.
joe rogan
Frank's had a long career, man.
And he got hit by a fucking car.
brendan schaub
Well, motorcycle accident, right?
joe rogan
He got hit by a car.
He was on a motorcycle, and the car literally hit his leg.
The car slammed into his leg.
unidentified
Yeah, but he had great fights after that.
brendan schaub
He still had great fights after that.
joe rogan
He had good fights after that.
brendan schaub
Brock Lesnar?
joe rogan
It took him a long time to recover.
It took him a long time to recover.
I think that was a devastating injury.
brendan schaub
For sure.
Frank's one of the best ever to do it.
Ever.
joe rogan
Well, without a doubt, one of the best submission artists.
Without a doubt.
eddie bravo
Oh, she's hurt.
It's over.
joe rogan
She's really hurt.
eddie bravo
It's over.
bryan callen
Oh, boy.
eddie bravo
Misha's just too good.
joe rogan
She's durable, man.
bryan callen
Very durable.
brendan schaub
The sport needs Misha.
It helps.
Women's fighting needs Misha Tate.
joe rogan
Wow, Brendan's shot.
eddie bravo
Imagine what Rhonda would do to her.
brendan schaub
I'm telling you, because she's attractive, she speaks well, and she has some skills.
joe rogan
Yeah, oh, she definitely has some skills.
brendan schaub
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
You know, what is a chick like Misha, though?
What does she do with a girl like Rhonda out there?
That is kind of a problem, right?
brendan schaub
Oh, you're always going to be second place.
Second place isn't that bad.
It's like Shake and Bake.
It's Shake and Bake.
joe rogan
Shake and Bake.
brendan schaub
Ron does Shake.
Misha's Bake.
Hey, Bake still lived in a nice crib.
Bake still had a nice crib.
joe rogan
Bake wound up fucking Shake's wife, remember?
Shake got crazy.
unidentified
Shake gets crazy.
joe rogan
I like Shake got crazy.
I like to party.
eddie bravo
That was a great movie.
brendan schaub
Why is the TV on?
Why do you watch the TV on the radio at the same time?
Because I like the party.
eddie bravo
Hey, how do you get the sound of the stereo but still watching the TV? He's telling them how to work his fucking home system!
joe rogan
That's such a good movie.
brendan schaub
Great movie.
joe rogan
Shake and bake.
But nobody, I'm telling you, man, they're not good friends.
bryan callen
Look at my face.
joe rogan
Ronda always belittles her.
brendan schaub
No, they fucking hate each other.
joe rogan
Hate each other.
No, I'm just saying shake and bake, but they hate each other.
Yeah, but be in second place to someone as ruthless as Ronda.
Like, when they were doing The Ultimate Fighter together, and they were doing that thing where they were climbing the wall, and Ronda wins, and she goes, fuck you, bitch.
brendan schaub
She hates her.
joe rogan
She fucking hates her.
Nobody does that.
Everybody else, if it's Gilbert...
brendan schaub
Even guys don't do that.
Ronda's a different animal, man.
She literally has hate in her heart.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
brendan schaub
I don't hate anyone in the UFC. I don't hate anyone.
No one.
Ronda literally hates Misha Tater, hates a few people.
joe rogan
She's on some next-level shit.
brendan schaub
She's on some demonic next-level shit.
joe rogan
She's got some fury in her, and...
brendan schaub
And you don't want to be Misha Tate receiving on the end.
joe rogan
But you need to be...
Not only do you need to match her skill set, which is good fucking luck, but you need to be able to match that intensity, man.
That intensity is a motherfucker.
brendan schaub
I'll tell you who's really fucked is this Ren Nakai, okay?
She's fucked in life.
Because we're talking about Ronda right now.
unidentified
This girl's over here attempting this half-ass double leg.
brendan schaub
She's freaking...
I don't know what she's doing.
joe rogan
You turned on her.
unidentified
I did, man.
In one round.
You turned on her.
You turned on her.
joe rogan
You were trying to date her.
unidentified
Bro, I was planning out our kids and shit.
eddie bravo
No, you were in love.
brendan schaub
Not with head movement like that.
bryan callen
No.
unidentified
No.
eddie bravo
Oh!
bryan callen
Excuse me, sir?
eddie bravo
She doesn't have what it takes to take her down.
bryan callen
Get this and Brennan might like you more.
eddie bravo
No, she's not going to finish any take.
She's checking her oil!
joe rogan
She's checking her oil.
She doesn't have any oil in there, man.
brendan schaub
Misha was knuckle deep in that ass.
bryan callen
That's oil.
Knuckle.
joe rogan
Knuckle deep.
Women, it's not an oil situation.
bryan callen
The knuckle deep meter hits red hot Friday nights.
brendan schaub
Misha's gonna take over with a knee.
eddie bravo
Dude, can you imagine lube made from real butt oil?
joe rogan
Well, if a guy has oil, does a gal have oil as well?
Would you call it checking your oil?
Yeah, everyone has butt oil.
bryan callen
Checking your honey.
Checking your honey pot.
eddie bravo
Come on!
unidentified
Butt oil is...
joe rogan
Checking your honey pot.
This is a pathetic conversation.
brendan schaub
Checking the Kool-Aid.
eddie bravo
10% butt oil.
joe rogan
Let's not do this, because this is bad for the sport.
brendan schaub
I agree.
We're on a weird path, man.
bryan callen
I was trying to stay out of it.
joe rogan
But you guys dragged me in!
It's none of our faults.
We've been drinking, and we're not responsible for our words.
Correct.
brendan schaub
No, I am, though.
I'm just drinking coffee.
I'm sober as shit.
joe rogan
But things like that.
unidentified
But it's late.
joe rogan
Like getting kicked in the junk.
I don't ever know what to say.
If a girl kicks a girl...
I'm not coming up with a new thing to say.
eddie bravo
Have they shown it in slow motion?
Have they stopped the fight?
Have they stopped the fight?
joe rogan
No.
What about a titty shot?
brendan schaub
What about a titty shot?
That might hurt.
eddie bravo
What's going to happen?
Are you going to show it in slow motion?
You show the ball shots in slow motion.
joe rogan
That's my point.
eddie bravo
And everyone goes, ooh!
The whole stadium goes, ooh!
joe rogan
By the way, I joke about it sometimes.
You know, I'll make light of it, like, oh, that is not fun.
You know, I'll say something like that, but I'm not going to say that if it's a girl.
eddie bravo
If it's a cunt punt?
joe rogan
Hey, you said that, Eddie Bravo.
Excuse me!
unidentified
Nakai's on her back!
joe rogan
Nakai's on her back!
eddie bravo
How did that happen?
bryan callen
Never let that back!
joe rogan
Bro, what did I tell you, man?
Weird shit happens when people are durable.
Oh, no.
brendan schaub
This little fire hydrant just keeps on keeping on.
joe rogan
Oh, Brendan Shaw is back on the couch!
eddie bravo
He wants it back!
unidentified
He's back on!
joe rogan
He's back, man!
bryan callen
You get this, we give you Big Brown!
joe rogan
But listen, she's shaking her.
brendan schaub
Easy, easy.
bryan callen
She'll take another win than that.
brendan schaub
You don't win one and get the Brown.
joe rogan
Let's see if she can hold this back position.
Let's see if she holds the back position.
unidentified
She's too short.
joe rogan
She's going to shake her off.
She's trying to switch to a body triangle.
But no, look, she's hanging on, man.
She's kind of hanging out.
She's going to be in her guard now for sure.
brendan schaub
She's going to end up in guard.
joe rogan
But let's see what kind of guard she's got.
Maybe she's got a good guard.
eddie bravo
No, those legs are too thick.
She ain't got no guard.
brendan schaub
She might have some nasty leg locks.
unidentified
She might have some nasty leg locks.
joe rogan
Well, Misha's a very good grappler.
unidentified
Yes, she is.
joe rogan
She's a better grappler than she is a striker.
brendan schaub
100%.
bryan callen
Man, oh man.
But you're right.
Rindikai is a durable little gal.
joe rogan
She's game.
bryan callen
Yep.
Taking shots.
joe rogan
Yeah, but now she's got Misha on top for dropping bows.
Ouchy, Wawa.
She's trying to set up an arm bar.
Look at this.
She's good hips.
eddie bravo
She's going for it.
joe rogan
She's got good hips, man.
Active hips.
This is a tricky situation for Misha.
She better be careful.
This chick's legit.
Legit off her back.
But Misha, good defense.
Good, strong.
On top again.
Here comes the knees, son.
A little attempt there.
The more she can slow Misha down on her feet, the more she turns into a grappling match.
She got some good positions, man.
I mean, she didn't come close to finishing.
brendan schaub
She's winning this round right now.
You're in Japan, too.
Remember.
Remember the last fight?
eddie bravo
I wonder if they're using Japanese judges.
joe rogan
I got a text from Dana saying that in the fight that we were talking shit during the whole fight, the referee grabbed the guy's glove I don't know what the situation was, because we were just laughing and having too much fun.
unidentified
Just right now?
brendan schaub
We missed everything.
joe rogan
Yeah, we missed a fight.
eddie bravo
He's listening to it?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
Dana was going crazy.
And he texted me, and he's like, I'm sure that if I saw it, I would have called it.
But I told him in the text message, I go, dude, we didn't even see it.
We were talking so much shit.
This is the worst way to watch a fight ever.
Ever.
brendan schaub
We got some weird tangents.
joe rogan
We're barely paying attention to amazing fights.
But it's so fun.
This is my favorite way to watch fights ever.
Oh, and Nakai's got that single.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
joe rogan
We were doing this video breakdown of Brian Carraway the other day, and it's funny, Brian Carraway on his resume, like the fighter's resume they gave me, fought in Strikeforce, fought in Elite XC, 13-4 record, said boyfriend of Misha Tate.
brendan schaub
It said girlfriend Misha Tate.
joe rogan
It said boyfriend of Misha Tate.
That was in his bio.
He's a good fighter.
He's 4-1 in the UFC. He's a very good fighter.
He's beaten some very good guys.
brendan schaub
It's just his girlfriend is hot.
And they want the world to know!
bryan callen
Misha saved his mom's...
She had an asthmatic attack.
unidentified
And Misha saved her life.
eddie bravo
Misha saved whose life?
bryan callen
Her mother-in-law's life.
joe rogan
Oh, look at this!
She went for a tank down and Nikai got her back.
unidentified
Mmm.
joe rogan
Damn.
I like it.
unidentified
That was fun.
eddie bravo
There's something right there.
Do you see something right there?
What do you see right there?
joe rogan
What do I see where?
Here?
Well, she's completely on the side.
Arm triangle position.
You know what I love, Eddie?
Tell me about this.
Are you doing that arm bar where the arm's in?
That arm bar where everybody's doing it now?
Like a lot of guys are doing an MMA where the arm's trapped inside the legs.
Like past the arm to the side.
brendan schaub
From side control, you're saying?
joe rogan
Yeah, like the arm gets passed to the side.
brendan schaub
It's like this?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's totally stretched out and then the guillotine goes on over it.
You know what I'm talking about?
eddie bravo
I don't know what you're talking about.
joe rogan
A lot of guys have been doing it where they're getting the arm completely pinned up to the side.
He gets scared.
brendan schaub
I think this is one-to-one.
bryan callen
He gets scared.
brendan schaub
I think this is one-to-one.
I'm just going to throw that out there.
joe rogan
You guys, have you seen Brian Cowen's wheel kick?
He does a wheel kick with a wig.
eddie bravo
Oh, look at that!
joe rogan
She got her back again.
eddie bravo
Damn, she likes jumping on backs.
That was a good little combo.
She turned it on then.
brendan schaub
Japanese bulldog.
bryan callen
That looks like a very shiny outfit, man.
joe rogan
Misha's clinging to that Kimura attempt here.
This chick is so strong, man.
Look at her.
eddie bravo
She's coming back.
unidentified
She's jumping on the back really quick.
eddie bravo
She's jumping on the back really quick.
That's a good sign.
That means she likes backs.
joe rogan
I'm telling you.
What did I tell you, boys?
I got instincts.
I've been doing this a while.
brendan schaub
Never count out the Japanese bulldog!
joe rogan
Are you rooting against Misha Tate now, bro?
brendan schaub
Me or Brian?
joe rogan
Any one of us.
Is anybody here rooting against Misha Tate?
bryan callen
No, I love Misha Tate.
joe rogan
Okay, if you could choose to be on a Tropic Island with one of them for a year...
brendan schaub
Don't do this to me, bro!
Don't do this to me!
bryan callen
Don't do it!
joe rogan
You have a thing with a Japanese chick.
unidentified
You would have a whole family by the time the rescue party came.
bryan callen
She is a cutie pie.
I'm too light in the ass for her.
joe rogan
She's on that back, son.
She's on that back.
bryan callen
Brandon, you can handle it.
brendan schaub
They're both very attractive.
bryan callen
You find her attractive.
brendan schaub
Both of them.
joe rogan
Well, let's admire them for their skill, gentlemen.
brendan schaub
No, that's why it's attractive, because their skills are ridiculous.
joe rogan
Oh, Misha's out.
But she's struggling, man.
unidentified
Oh, elbow.
Big elbow.
brendan schaub
Misha looks a little tired.
bryan callen
Misha is tough.
joe rogan
A little angry, man.
I thought she looked a little annoyed.
eddie bravo
That whole combo, that take down to the back, that was really smooth.
joe rogan
How much more difficult is it for a beautiful girl?
bryan callen
She's tired.
joe rogan
How much more difficult is it for a beautiful girl to fight?
Oh, big elbow.
brendan schaub
It's a lot more pressure.
I met this girl the other day who said she wants to get into fighting.
She was stunning.
I went, why?
joe rogan
Why would you do that?
unidentified
This is what I'm saying.
joe rogan
A girl like Misha, she has a beautiful face.
A body to go with it.
Look at Vanderlei Silva.
Yeah.
I mean, everything.
She's beautiful.
She's a great person, too.
Very nice person.
brendan schaub
Smart, too.
joe rogan
Yeah.
But let's think about it.
Vanderlei Silva is also a mixed martial arts fighter.
Now, I've been a fan of Vanderlei Silva from the golden days.
brendan schaub
Retired today.
joe rogan
Retired today.
His face has changed so much from impacts and scar tissue and damage.
We remember when he fought Dan Henderson, he was actually a handsome guy.
He had this one look and then over the years of just getting smashed Smashed.
His nose completely flattened out.
And then he had to get an operation to open his nose passage up.
He had zero...
Mayhem Miller's the same way.
Mayhem can't breathe out of his nose.
His nose just doesn't work.
bryan callen
So crazy.
joe rogan
Just smashed from over...
Now, a girl like Misha Tate, that was my point, she is in the same sport as them.
It's very possible...
brendan schaub
She's not getting hit like a man, though.
joe rogan
She would have...
She fought that bitch, Corhea.
She'd get hit.
brendan schaub
You're talking about the exception.
joe rogan
When she fought Katzengano, Katzengano stopped her.
unidentified
She had a knee.
That's true.
brendan schaub
She had a horrible knee.
joe rogan
Beautiful elbow, too.
What about that elbow?
unidentified
That's true.
joe rogan
Nasty elbow.
brendan schaub
But on average, Wanderlei Silva's going against Crow Cop.
unidentified
No doubt.
brendan schaub
All these monsters.
unidentified
No doubt.
brendan schaub
Where a jab can break your nose.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's true.
brendan schaub
It's a little different.
joe rogan
It's a good point.
It's a good point.
But still, you're a girl.
brendan schaub
Still, wouldn't let my daughter fight.
joe rogan
Look at the scar on...
Let's think of a big scar that happened in MMA. Okay, like Joe Lozon.
He's got this big scar that he had to get.
He had to get that Graston method.
bryan callen
From what?
joe rogan
I believe it was a knee or a kick from one of his fights.
bryan callen
What's a Graston method?
joe rogan
They take a piece of metal and it's all about breaking up the scar tissue.
They use it for injuries.
Athletes use it for...
It's like a high-tech form of that rolfing stuff.
It's like breaking down...
Have you ever done rolfing?
bryan callen
Yes.
joe rogan
Fucking painful, right?
bryan callen
Yeah, it's painful.
joe rogan
But effective.
brendan schaub
It leaves a mark forever.
joe rogan
You're fucked.
brendan schaub
You're saying a girl like Ronda Rouse or Mishita who has a really pretty face.
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
They could get a giant fucking gash across their face.
We haven't seen that yet, but how weird is it going to be when there's a chick that has...
Like Jean-Jacques.
Jean-Jacques has that cut from fighting Frank Trigg.
He was shooting in for a takedown.
He got caught with a knee.
He had perfect surgery done on it.
You can't pay attention.
But Jean-Jacques is a manly man.
If he has a scar, it doesn't hurt the way he looks.
brendan schaub
Makes him more handsome, really.
A girl, you're like...
joe rogan
Yeah, a girl with a four-inch scar across her face.
brendan schaub
Hey, scarlet leather, you know what I'm saying?
eddie bravo
It's not going to change much.
Guys are so horny.
It's not going to stop them.
unidentified
Look at this!
brendan schaub
Think of a girl like Gina Carano, though, man.
That face.
bryan callen
Do you see where that's happening?
Does that count as a point when she takes her down with that and stands her up?
eddie bravo
If Gina Carano had a Tony Montana scar, it wouldn't matter.
bryan callen
They scored like a boxing match.
unidentified
Fuck.
bryan callen
But I'm saying that that should be scored, right?
When you take somebody down in a single eight?
joe rogan
Yes, it counts.
brendan schaub
Well, they pop right up, though.
It depends on the judges.
unidentified
So if you take somebody down, somebody stands right up, it's kind of neutral, right?
Take her down, little thing.
brendan schaub
Take her down, little thing.
unidentified
Damn.
joe rogan
Oh, wow.
brendan schaub
I bet you they give it to Rin.
Oh, you're crazy.
joe rogan
Really?
eddie bravo
They might.
joe rogan
Two rounds, right?
brendan schaub
She's a superstar, too.
She got the back twice.
bryan callen
You know what I like?
eddie bravo
I like the Ultimate Fighter, how they have two rounds and a third.
If they go a third, the third decides it.
That's a great idea.
unidentified
Don't you think?
joe rogan
It's not a bad idea.
They used to do that in K-1, too.
unidentified
I think that's a good idea because it eliminates...
eddie bravo
It eliminates that...
bryan callen
Misha's disappointed.
eddie bravo
Those fights where you have three rounds and the first two were kind of close, but the judges gave it to the same dude.
And then the third round, the other guy ends up beating his ass and he still loses.
joe rogan
It's true.
brendan schaub
You know what was weird, though, in the tough house when I was on it?
When you go two rounds, I'm like, you wouldn't know.
You go back to corner, I'm like, we're going to third!
Like, Jesus, man!
You know?
eddie bravo
I think it's easier to score that way.
brendan schaub
I agree.
eddie bravo
Yeah.
brendan schaub
For the fighters, it's kind of cool, too.
eddie bravo
You know what I would do?
If round one went by and it was like uneventful, could have went either way, I would just not even score that round.
I would wait until the next round.
If we had another round like that, I would give them one apiece.
brendan schaub
I agree.
eddie bravo
And then, you know what I mean?
Why would you automatically...
Give someone a round when it went either way.
unidentified
Who are they going to give it to?
joe rogan
Man, I don't know.
We were talking so much shit.
We would be the worst judges of all time.
We don't even know who the guys were.
brendan schaub
They're going to give it to Nakai.
eddie bravo
They're going to give it to Nakai.
joe rogan
Misha Tate.
Shazam.
brendan schaub
Shazam.
Unanimous decision.
joe rogan
Are there any boos?
They don't even blow Japan.
brendan schaub
They just respect the warrior spirit.
joe rogan
Watching fights in Japan is awesome, man.
Because while the fights are going on, everyone's dead quiet.
It's really cool.
brendan schaub
She gonna call out Ronda here?
eddie bravo
She needs to go to wildcard and work on her striking.
joe rogan
Powerful Brian Stan looking slick.
unidentified
Got that bob cut.
joe rogan
Look, it's not my favorite sexy accent, but goddamn Japanese is pretty hot.
There's something about it.
brendan schaub
Not in my top.
joe rogan
It's not my favorite.
brendan schaub
Not in my top.
joe rogan
Uniquely sexy about it.
eddie bravo
Really?
The English accent.
joe rogan
That's the best one.
eddie bravo
It's very submissive.
unidentified
That's pretty good.
eddie bravo
That's the best shit.
joe rogan
Well, Spanish is pretty hot, too.
Yeah, Spanish.
I'd say Spanish.
I'd say Spanish.
Well, you're Mexican, man.
That's not exotic to you.
eddie bravo
Although that modern family chick, that Cuban chick.
joe rogan
Oh, my goodness.
brendan schaub
Sophia.
eddie bravo
Oh, Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
It's impossible to get hotter than that.
brendan schaub
I'd have kids with her right now.
If they called me up, I'd do it right now.
eddie bravo
I want to know the story.
They need to do an episode one special.
How did he get hurt?
They need to rewind and go back.
joe rogan
Who got her?
eddie bravo
Like how Ed O'Neal got her.
unidentified
How did they meet?
eddie bravo
How did he pull that off?
brendan schaub
Maybe he's rich as shit and she's a freaking...
joe rogan
Maybe he's got a dick like Donald Cerrone's arm.
unidentified
It's true.
joe rogan
It's a big Just like a fucking strong 155 pounder.
Strong, lean, 155 pounder who throws hard knuckles.
bryan callen
With an aggressive attitude.
unidentified
That's what his dick looks like.
joe rogan
He just pulls it out.
eddie bravo
He's just veiny.
joe rogan
He pulls it out like he's a fucking fight in a fire.
eddie bravo
Just holds it up.
bryan callen
A vein, a vein, the size of my index finger.
brendan schaub
And she's fighting a fire.
joe rogan
It's hypnotic.
bryan callen
She's that big old angry piss hole.
joe rogan
Like a fucking, one of those snake fish.
bryan callen
What's with your piss hole, bro?
joe rogan
One of those fish that can crawl out of a lake and walk for a mile.
That's what it looks like.
bryan callen
And you can see it breathe.
It's just breathing.
joe rogan
It's got gills where the cock flares out in the mushroom head.
It's got gills.
And it's slimy.
It's always slimy.
brendan schaub
Always just wet.
joe rogan
In the middle of the desert, he pulls it out.
His dick is glistening.
brendan schaub
It has a runny nose.
bryan callen
It carries salmonella.
joe rogan
Like alien's tongue.
Remember when the alien pulls his tongue out and everything drips?
unidentified
What if fitness dicks was a sport?
bryan callen
Tomato red.
You get judged on the veins.
unidentified
There's got to be something like that already, right?
joe rogan
Amir Sadala, if I'm not incorrect, he has been out for a long time.
brendan schaub
Two years.
joe rogan
Jamie, pull out Amir Sadala's record.
brendan schaub
He's been out for two years, for sure?
joe rogan
Wow, he was a really good fighter, and then he fought Ludwig, and Ludwig kind of picked him apart, and that was a big loss.
brendan schaub
Ludwig broke him.
joe rogan
Ludwig really lit him up.
Because he was really becoming a very good striker.
Very high volume.
He was into that Muay Thai style.
But Ludwig was on another level.
brendan schaub
There's certain guys when they begin their career and they face a guy where they can't do anything and they never come back from it.
It's weird, right?
joe rogan
It was a style matchup.
He had lost to wrestlers before he came back stronger, but Dwayne Ludwig, when he's on, was one of the most technical, most proficient, and most educated strikers in MMA. Ever.
unidentified
Ever.
joe rogan
Ever.
He's so educated, which is why he's such a good trainer.
The reason why he's such a good trainer is because he's so educated in all tactics, all movement.
brendan schaub
And he's been there.
Most trainers have it.
joe rogan
When we were working out with him, man, I saw him correcting all these little things with you, and all I could think of is, God damn, if Schaub could work with this guy every day, if you could work with Dwayne every day, it would change your game a lot.
You're a sponge, and when you're with that guy and he's showing you stuff, and he's a freak.
brendan schaub
I love Dwayne.
joe rogan
He's a sponge and a freak.
He's trying to just fill you up, and you're like, come on, show me what you got.
And you guys, that was a fun workout session to watch, man.
brendan schaub
That was so much fun.
joe rogan
But that fight was just a bad fight for Amir.
It was the wrong style.
Dwayne was too goddamn good on his feet.
And Dwayne came into that fight healthy.
brendan schaub
That was always Dwayne's thing.
He always cut too much weight.
He's never healthy.
He trained too hard.
He's been fighting for so long in kickboxing.
It finally caught up to him when he got to the UFC. And Dwayne's a guy where if he came in now...
You're talking superstar with his skill set and his work ethic.
It's just he was a little too late, you know what I'm saying?
Obviously, coaching's worked out for him with Tito Dillshaw.
joe rogan
Tremendously.
brendan schaub
I'm just saying, you fast forward and start Dwayne 10 years later, he's a superstar.
He's a superstar with his work ethic.
joe rogan
Dwayne is not genetically gifted.
He's got a regular athletic body.
It's his intelligence and his knowledge and his drive and his focus.
His demeanor.
And his demeanor.
brendan schaub
Listen, when we'd come to the gym and they were sparring, Dwayne would be the first one in the cage.
Me and Shane would look at each other and be like, I ain't going with him, you go.
bryan callen
Is that right?
brendan schaub
I ain't going with him, you go.
We'd argue.
We had to go first with him.
He would walk through everything and keep going.
unidentified
Walk, walk, walk.
bryan callen
Damn.
joe rogan
Yeah, he was a fantastic striker.
bryan callen
With heavyweights, with guys in size, it's crazy.
brendan schaub
And you talk to us, like, you better not, don't take me down, don't be a bitch and take me down.
And I'd be like, okay, better not take me down.
unidentified
Damn.
brendan schaub
So I'm sitting there striking with his ass.
bryan callen
Damn.
eddie bravo
What do you think about, are you practicing turning sidekicks or wheel kicks?
brendan schaub
Uh, not wheel kicks.
Yeah, we talked about that.
bryan callen
Can we listen to his walkout music, please?
joe rogan
Well, he comes out with the Sopranos music, Brian.
It's boring.
eddie bravo
I hate that old music.
So you've actually taken a lesson from Joe?
joe rogan
No.
eddie bravo
On turning sidekicks?
joe rogan
No, no.
eddie bravo
Man, that would be a good fucking idea.
He's right here.
He's your boy.
brendan schaub
Well, we did a little kicking stuff.
unidentified
I know, we did something.
eddie bravo
I mean, think about how hard he kicks.
brendan schaub
I'm telling you, this December 6th fight, I'm telling you.
bryan callen
He's caught it.
brendan schaub
We got some stuff.
joe rogan
I believe you.
brendan schaub
I will have the best training.
The Mally guys I'm bringing in to mimic Travis Brown.
I'm telling you, we got it.
bryan callen
You'll be just fine.
eddie bravo
We're working on dealing with that front side kick or the front snap kick he does?
joe rogan
It's the biggest fight of my life.
brendan schaub
It's the biggest fight of my life.
joe rogan
It's the Jackson's camp.
They're hitting that oblique kick.
brendan schaub
He's not at Jackson's anymore, though.
joe rogan
But he's still going to train there.
brendan schaub
He's not.
He just announced he's doing the whole camp in Glendale at Ronda's camp.
joe rogan
Well, look, he still learned a lot from Winkle John.
eddie bravo
Oh, 100%.
brendan schaub
He's still going to have that stuff.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ, how jacked does Akiyama look at 170?
brendan schaub
Bodied up.
unidentified
We call that a dime piece.
joe rogan
He's 11. He's 11. We've got to make a new meter.
unidentified
He certainly is an 11. He makes GSP look like a little pudgy.
brendan schaub
He does.
bryan callen
And he's got a beautiful voice.
brendan schaub
He does.
joe rogan
No, but he does.
That's kind of impossible.
bryan callen
Golden tonsils.
joe rogan
No bullshit.
He is fucking unbelievable shredded.
brendan schaub
And those gold trunks?
bryan callen
Did you see his ESPN in Captain America?
He did a good job.
joe rogan
Oh, fuck yeah, he did.
Yep.
He's good at playing a martial arts killer.
Who would have thunk it?
Greatest welterweight of all time is also good at playing one of the greatest fighters of all time.
What are the odds?
The kid's shredded.
Look at Akiyama.
bryan callen
He's doing very well.
joe rogan
That's what you get when you sing.
bryan callen
When you practice singing, your body has to be in very good shape.
eddie bravo
How much vagina is he getting?
joe rogan
I think he's only had a couple of fights at 170. If not, this might be his debut at 170. What's he usually fight at?
brendan schaub
185. 185. You ever see the fight with Lieben?
Lieben?
I did see that fight.
joe rogan
One of the greatest fights ever.
As far as entertainment value?
brendan schaub
Entertainment.
Technique-wise, no.
Entertainment for sure.
bryan callen
Look at the back of his back.
Look at where his lats are.
Look at how low those lats are.
eddie bravo
Those are chimp lats.
joe rogan
That's judo, son.
bryan callen
Is that what it is?
joe rogan
That's judo.
eddie bravo
He's a famous singer, and he's a famous Japanese MMA fighter.
Do you think he's the married, I'm gonna be faithful celebrity, or do you think he's just running shit?
bryan callen
We don't know.
brendan schaub
I think he's running vicious, vicious trains on Japanese women.
unidentified
They do some They do some weird shit where they, like, shit on each other.
brendan schaub
They dress up as bunnies.
bryan callen
This ass is bad for the sport!
unidentified
Brandon!
brendan schaub
I'm not saying he does it!
I'm not saying he does it!
bryan callen
You've gone too far, man!
You mean when they wrap their heads in saran wrap and they breathe out of smalls?
joe rogan
This might be the shoutiest podcast ever of all shouty podcasts.
brendan schaub
It is 2am almost.
joe rogan
It's 2am and we're lit up like Christmas trees in here.
brendan schaub
No, I'm only drinking coffee, my man.
joe rogan
I'm drinking.
bryan callen
But when you do wrap your face in saran wrap...
eddie bravo
Look at the bottom of his lats, the line.
bryan callen
Jesus Christ.
eddie bravo
He doesn't have a lower back, dude.
bryan callen
By the way, I got a nice back.
It's hard for me to give it up.
He's got a beautiful bow.
joe rogan
His judo.
His judo's insane.
But he was always like a very fit, thick guy.
But at 170, he looks like a fucking alien.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
He's shredded.
bryan callen
Look at him.
eddie bravo
Strong boyfriend.
bryan callen
Dude, I'm going to start bowing before my fights.
joe rogan
Wait a minute.
It says boyfriend on his banner?
bryan callen
I hope so.
brendan schaub
That's his girl right there.
They said, oh, Amir Sadal, he took two years off.
Hey, we got one.
Fly to Japan and fight this dime piece for us.
joe rogan
But the dime piece is taking some time off, too.
brendan schaub
Dime piece is busy making bank singing.
joe rogan
Singing.
Yeah, that doesn't keep you hungry.
Singing at the stadiums.
brendan schaub
I agree.
That body keeps you hungry, though.
joe rogan
What's Amir Sadal been doing for a living these days?
He hasn't fought in two years.
He's been teaching.
eddie bravo
Lats of the year.
brendan schaub
Come on.
bryan callen
Who has better lats than him?
He looks pretty bouncy.
eddie bravo
Who has better lats?
joe rogan
Amir's movement was always good, man.
Dwayne was just a step ahead of him in that fight.
And Dwayne hurt him with a left hook, I think.
brendan schaub
Left hook, yeah.
Amir's never been known for his power.
I feel like Akiyama's going to have some power.
joe rogan
Yeah, that is true.
Akiyama has some brutal, brutal power.
eddie bravo
Come on, seriously.
Am I just stoned out of my mind?
Or am I tripping on his lats?
joe rogan
No, he's very big, Eddie.
brendan schaub
And he has a chin, too.
Akiyama can take some punishment.
joe rogan
Oh, he took him down.
bryan callen
Guys, I want to use this expression.
He's a high-level judoka.
joe rogan
But Sadala has some good jiu-jitsu.
He won some fights in the UFC in his Ultimate Fighter.
He won some fights with armbars.
unidentified
He's fighting a high-level judoka.
bryan callen
With beautiful skin.
joe rogan
God, that's good skin.
It's almost gold.
bryan callen
Dude, it's not almost.
You can take almost out of that statement.
eddie bravo
He's got gold skin.
brendan schaub
Fuck big brown.
How about big gold?
joe rogan
You're damn right.
unidentified
Jesus, man.
bryan callen
Medium gold.
We call him medium gold.
unidentified
He makes me look like shit.
bryan callen
He's a beautiful man.
joe rogan
Well, there's some Asians that cross into that, like, darker realm of skin.
bryan callen
They got a little Polynesian in them.
joe rogan
Yeah, Polynesian.
bryan callen
He's literally Polynesian.
joe rogan
Well, the ties can get really dark.
eddie bravo
Or maybe he's just straight Japanese and just fucking goes to the tanning salon.
joe rogan
He's Korean.
eddie bravo
He can go to the tanning salon.
bryan callen
You know what I mean?
Can I tell you guys something?
eddie bravo
It's 2014. He comes from a different land.
bryan callen
He's a golden man.
Passing guard.
eddie bravo
He's got a deep Brazilian guard.
bryan callen
That's my boyfriend right there.
eddie bravo
Oh, he jumps right back into it.
bryan callen
Why would he step back in?
You guys are grapplers.
joe rogan
What?
He didn't like it.
bryan callen
Okay.
joe rogan
Didn't like something.
He thought maybe he was going to get his back took.
eddie bravo
No, he had the underhook.
Yeah, he wouldn't.
joe rogan
But why would he go backwards then?
eddie bravo
That's...
It's a sign of an unsure passer.
joe rogan
Some guys like to hold this position too, right?
eddie bravo
Randy Couture said they're not comfortable in the side control.
brendan schaub
Most guys who are heavy top grapplers stay in half guard.
joe rogan
They're comfortable.
brendan schaub
They can do damage and control.
Side control has more escapes.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's what Randy was saying.
unidentified
His skin is straight up gold.
eddie bravo
It's distracting.
brendan schaub
All I can see is this gold skin.
bryan callen
As well, that's the only thing that matters in this fight.
joe rogan
How about the gold shorts to go with the gold skin?
I love those shorts.
bryan callen
The shorts are perfect.
joe rogan
It's like a black-on-black Mercedes.
Rolling down the street with high tint.
eddie bravo
And that boyfriend patch on his shorts.
bryan callen
What is that?
eddie bravo
What the fuck is that?
bryan callen
Sexy Akiyama.
joe rogan
Do you remember when Sakurabi used to go into the cage with a shirt that just said water?
bryan callen
Water, yes.
Water and glasses and weird fake glasses.
eddie bravo
It's in the Japanese.
Water just looks so good.
It's just like an ancient symbol.
Like the word water.
Like, it's just beautiful.
bryan callen
He was just full of irony.
Full of irony.
eddie bravo
The symmetry to them.
unidentified
The words, right?
eddie bravo
It looked like hieroglyphs.
joe rogan
Wow, we wear goofy shit.
We wear Japanese shit.
Dudes have Japanese things tattooed on them.
They don't even know what it means.
Brian got, and I think it was Chinese, he thought he was getting Brian tattooed on his arm, and it says waterfall.
He didn't know.
He wanted his name tattooed on his arm, and the dude fucked it up.
bryan callen
Waterfall.
joe rogan
Probably an American dude.
Oh, Big Elbow by Akiyama.
brendan schaub
Akiyama looks heavy on top.
joe rogan
Well, he's such a good grappler.
You know, those judo guys are so goddamn strong.
bryan callen
Yep.
brendan schaub
Gonzaga's similar to this.
Jutoka.
unidentified
Jutoka.
joe rogan
Gonzaga's another one.
Like Shane Carwin in a lot of ways.
brendan schaub
So heavy.
joe rogan
His knockout power.
When he gets onto the scale, he walks onto the stage where the scale is.
It's a different thing.
It's like a stone man is walking on.
brendan schaub
He's fighting Mitreona.
joe rogan
I know.
eddie bravo
You know what?
Sadala just turned that...
brendan schaub
A standing clinch against him, you know?
joe rogan
Yeah, he's back up.
Look at this.
eddie bravo
I think he's a real legit judoka.
Oh!
joe rogan
Back kick!
unidentified
Back kick!
joe rogan
No extension.
bryan callen
No extension.
joe rogan
He hit it and then he pulled out of it.
brendan schaub
Well, no extension.
Jammed it, right?
joe rogan
Well, it's not that.
No.
These guys, they don't have the extension.
They're doing the technique in a way that works.
brendan schaub
Too close?
joe rogan
No.
Even when it's in close, man.
brendan schaub
Still extend.
joe rogan
You gotta extend it.
Whenever you throw that kick, it's never bouncing off.
Ever.
You never bounce off.
You always extend.
bryan callen
And landing.
joe rogan
Always.
It's just a matter of they're doing it wrong.
It's a complex technique.
There's a lot of steps to the spinning back kick or turning side kick.
They're two totally different kicks, really.
We always called it the turning side kick in the Taekwondo schools.
But when I started doing kickboxing, they would say, show them that spinning back kick.
So I would start calling it the spinning back kick because I figured that was the karate guys.
That's what they called it.
But it's a side kick.
The knee comes up high and there's an extension.
That's how Akiyama threw it.
There's the back kick version, how Chuck used to throw it, with the toes down and the heel up.
And that's a powerful kick, too.
It's like a donkey kick.
It's a little different.
But you can fuck a guy up with that, too.
It's all a matter of reps and, most importantly...
When you do the reps, you have to extend.
And a lot of guys don't extend.
They bounce off of it.
eddie bravo
Your short says body friend, by the way.
unidentified
Body friend.
eddie bravo
All of them.
All the ones he throws, if they land perfectly, very hard to survive.
joe rogan
If you have a video of hitting somebody with one, that video from that Taekwondo tournament, you finally have something that's online.
bryan callen
You've got to use it as a defense, too.
eddie bravo
That was a nice one.
It landed.
joe rogan
It was good.
He just didn't extend.
See how he bounced off?
It should have been the opposite.
The right leg should have been forward.
At the end of it, it should have been so much force going forward that his right leg was forward.
It should have been a no-denial thing.
And if you throw a front kick, front kick is a perfect example, because it's a pretty easy technique to master.
You pick the knee up, it's very normal mechanics, but when you throw a front kick, you almost always go forward with the kick.
You very rarely throw a front kick and then pull it all the way back behind you.
That's not a natural movement.
Because to do the front kick and put weight into it, you're going to naturally step forward.
Well, you should do the same thing with a turning side kick.
It's just people, they just haven't been taught right.
That's all it is.
This is the one thing that drives me nuts.
Nice high kick by Sadala.
There's the one thing that drives me nuts at all martial arts techniques.
It is that one technique, the spinning back kick or the turning side kick.
brendan schaub
Drives you nuts.
joe rogan
It's the one that drives me nuts because I know the potential of it.
And then I've shown it to people and they go, I didn't even know this.
I'm like, I know you didn't know.
There's a lot of people that don't know it.
It's just a matter of doing the technique correctly.
Like Dennis Seaver, he does it correctly.
brendan schaub
Fuck yeah, he does.
joe rogan
When that guy throws it, that motherfucker extends.
You never know what's coming.
Because he'll throw that shit only like once or twice in a fight.
brendan schaub
Wouldn't you say you and him have similar builds for that kick though?
That's why he's so good at it?
joe rogan
No, because my friend Larry Jones had a better turning sidekick than me.
Larry was like 6'3", 6'4", somewhere around then.
And he fought at heavyweight in Taekwondo tournaments.
Larry, I was always short, but Larry was always, he had these ridiculous legs.
They would go up to his tits.
And he would throw this front leg sidekick like you couldn't fuck with it.
The reason I developed my front leg sidekick was because of my friend Larry.
His is way superior to mine.
There was like three guys that had these vicious front leg sidekicks.
eddie bravo
Like Conor McGregor almost, right?
joe rogan
No, no.
Way better.
Way better.
eddie bravo
But he's pretty good with those.
joe rogan
Yes, he's good with it.
bryan callen
You see guys who've been doing it the whole life by talking to other guys that can break your insides, man.
They use it as defense.
As you come in, they'll time it and use your body.
As you move in, they'll back kick you.
joe rogan
They just don't have all the other stuff.
They're just missing all the other stuff.
brendan schaub
Akiyama keeps getting hit with this head kick, man.
This left high kick.
joe rogan
Yeah, but Amir's just grazing him with it.
brendan schaub
I know, he's not committing to it.
joe rogan
My friend Leroy Rodriguez, he had kicks, front leg kicks, that were so fucking fast, when people would spar him, like when he was in his prime, he was like one of J. Kim's top black belts.
bryan callen
Oh, that's right!
joe rogan
He tagged him.
bryan callen
Nice right.
joe rogan
Akiyama's got a vicious right hand, man.
brendan schaub
Heavy.
joe rogan
This dude, him and Larry Jones, this other dude, his name was Major Battle.
That was his real name.
brendan schaub
Larry Leroy Major Battle.
unidentified
You walk into the gym, don't fuck with Larry Leroy Major Battle.
joe rogan
Meanwhile, three of the nicest guys you would ever want to meet.
Leroy's still a good friend to this day.
But if you saw those guys throw front leg kicks, it would change your whole idea of what's possible with those things.
Oh!
Oh, he's hurting him.
unidentified
Oh, no.
joe rogan
Amir's in trouble.
Oh, Amir's still throwing that kick.
He got tagged again.
brendan schaub
Amir's tough, man.
joe rogan
Amir's pretty good at keeping guys off of him, but he's getting tagged.
bryan callen
I don't know about this.
joe rogan
He's got to get some distance here.
eddie bravo
Good ground and pound, man.
joe rogan
But look, Amir's got the feet on the hips.
But those judo guys are always so good standing up, man.
brendan schaub
So heavy.
bryan callen
Dude, he's got him dead to rights here.
Look at this.
joe rogan
Oh, look at this, Amir.
eddie bravo
Going for a try.
joe rogan
Throwing up some shit.
bryan callen
Not going to work.
unidentified
Oh, man.
brendan schaub
Akiyama said, oh, you guys put words on your shorts?
Fuck that.
Check this picture of a watch out.
I have gold skin, bitches.
bryan callen
I got gold skin!
I'm a chosen one!
joe rogan
Check out my dick, it's right between your legs.
bryan callen
Amaratsu, Amaratsu, the sun god, Amaratsu has chosen me to be his messenger.
joe rogan
But my point, when I was talking about these kicks, Shaab, you got long ass fucking legs, dude.
You could throw some vicious kicks.
If you ever met my friend Larry, who's like your size, and you saw what that guy can do with his front leg, he would fold bags in half with his front leg side kick.
unidentified
Just extend.
joe rogan
You know, he's this big black guy.
And just long fucking legs and just extend.
bryan callen
Folding bags in half.
unidentified
Folding.
joe rogan
And you couldn't...
bryan callen
With a front foot sidekick?
joe rogan
He would kickbox guys, and dudes who had never faced a guy that had a front leg like that, they had no idea what to do with him.
They couldn't figure out how to get in on him.
bryan callen
Really hard.
joe rogan
The problem with it, though, is it was all being developed when there was no leg kicks.
So I think a good Thai guy would just start attacking his legs, and it would limit a lot of the techniques you could pull off.
But those guys were all above-the-waist kickboxers, and he was fucking them up.
And all that tells me is that that's a technique that's not being utilized.
Ooh, good upkicks by Amir.
unidentified
Tyler!
bryan callen
Thai guys don't use back kicks, though.
joe rogan
Sometimes they do.
Some of those guys do.
Especially the guys, the Muay Thai guys from Holland.
They'll mix shit up.
Badar Hari, that motherfucker throws wheel kicks.
eddie bravo
It's almost better, if you're going to raise a fighter from the time he's five and on, it's almost better to get him into Taekwondo early, to get him used to the aerials and all the fancy, crazy kicks, and then at 12, get him into Muay Thai.
unidentified
So he'd be learning Muay Thai, but he'll still throw...
eddie bravo
He'll still throw those spinning kicks.
bryan callen
But they're both two different distances, and it's two different techniques.
joe rogan
Yeah, but it's not.
bryan callen
So if you had a five-year-old and you had to train him, what do you start him with?
joe rogan
Taekwondo.
Taekwondo, yeah.
And gymnastics.
It's also, you're going to develop the dexterity for those weird moves that are super dangerous when you get really good at them.
Eddie always equates, oh, look at Sadal, gets out from the back door.
Almost.
Is he out?
unidentified
Yes.
brendan schaub
I put my kid in jiu-jitsu at five.
joe rogan
Well, Eddie always equates it, that's not a bad call either, but Eddie always equates it to rubber guard techniques.
Because if you teach someone rubber guard techniques, and it's the first time they've tried it, they're like, oh, this shit isn't going to work, I'm not flexible enough.
Well, that's the same thing if you show someone a wheel kick.
You tell me the wheel kick's never going to work?
Hold a pad for a guy like Barboza.
Hold the pad and let him wheel kick you.
And you hit that pad and you go, oh shit, I need to know this.
eddie bravo
It forces his opponent to really focus on that and take time away from other shit.
joe rogan
You've got to be terrified of that wheel kick.
You've got to be terrified of all of his kicks.
eddie bravo
It's part of the training camp.
Stay away from that motherfucker.
joe rogan
Stay away from those fucking crazy kicks.
eddie bravo
Every day they're going to be dealing with it.
joe rogan
Barbell has stopped two fucking guys in the UFC with leg kicks.
I mean, his kicks are brutal.
eddie bravo
Look what John Jones is doing.
John Jones, I would suggest, and I don't know shit because I've never fought in MMA, but I would guess, I would hypothesize, if you want to be a striker, or you want to be a fighter, rather, in the UFC, if you're interested in fighting in the UFC and challenging for the belt one day, Do what Jon Jones is doing as far as everything on your feet, including the wrestling and the striking especially.
He's throwing everything.
Jon Jones is throwing everything.
Spinning back fists, spinning back elbows, turning side kicks, kung fu kicks to the side.
bryan callen
Improvising, improvising.
eddie bravo
There's not a kick that he hasn't thrown.
bryan callen
I can't plan for it.
eddie bravo
Maybe the jump spinning inside crescent kick, we really haven't seen that one.
Only in Jackie Chan movies.
That's the last kick.
That's the last of the kicks.
joe rogan
Well, you know, there's a spinning crescent kick that's really effective.
eddie bravo
Do you know what I'm talking about?
unidentified
When you're coming in with this side like this, and you're going, we haven't seen that one.
joe rogan
Well, it doesn't work too much.
For me, at least, it didn't work too much this way.
Like, the inside crescent kick, I gave up on a long time ago.
eddie bravo
What if you hurt a guy standing, and then you finish with that motherfucker?
Because of the angle.
joe rogan
Have you ever seen me do a spinning crescent kick?
I never showed you that.
eddie bravo
Yeah, you showed me everything, I'm sure.
joe rogan
No, no, no, I bet I haven't.
It's like you hit like this, with the outside of the foot, like that, you spin around.
eddie bravo
We haven't seen a knockout with that either.
We haven't seen a knockout with that.
joe rogan
It's a close range kick.
It's a weird kick.
You do it from a different range.
I never did it, but my friend Ed Shorter was really good at it.
My friend Ed Shorter knocked out guys with that.
He had a wicked spinning crescent kick.
He would throw that more than he would throw the wheel kick.
It was an awkward technique.
eddie bravo
I think Jon Jones throws everything except those.
The last new kick I think was to make a big impact in all of MMA and how everyone trains is that front snap kick and the rear snap kick right to the jaw, right to the chest.
Travis Boundby throwing them.
I know you've been studying that shit.
And also Josh Thompson throws them a lot.
A lot.
Cerrone throws him a lot.
And of course, Kakuno is known for that shit.
So now, that is the hottest kick, right?
That's the newest, hottest kick that people are actually spending time trying to master it.
When before, there was no special time spent for that front snap kick.
But now it's real.
unidentified
Oh!
eddie bravo
We even talked about that on video.
That's the craziest thing ever.
joe rogan
Yeah, we talked about it years ago.
You know what's the next kick, man?
eddie bravo
I asked you.
I asked you in your gym.
joe rogan
I didn't think so.
eddie bravo
I said, why haven't we seen the front snap kick to the fucking jaw?
And then you said some great shit about it.
And then, boom, that's when Anderson or...
joe rogan
Landed on Vitor.
eddie bravo
Yeah, that was the first one.
And then Machida on Randy Couture.
And then now everyone's fucking throwing them.
joe rogan
And then your boy, Travis Brown, on Alistair Overeem.
eddie bravo
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know what I think the next one is?
The axe kick.
Axe kicks are very effective.
eddie bravo
We don't really see them.
Holly Holm throws them.
joe rogan
There was this guy, this Canadian guy.
His name was Jersey Long.
And that was one of the reasons why I realized how effective and powerful axe kicks were.
There was this guy, John Lee, who had a really good axe kick, who was a national Taekwondo champion.
eddie bravo
Why haven't we seen it in MMA more?
joe rogan
Because we haven't seen a guy who's really good at it.
There's a guy named Jersey Long that was from Canada.
And he had a fucking axe kick that was like a rifle shot.
It would be up and on your jaw before you knew it was happening.
He just had this.
eddie bravo
We're going to see that.
joe rogan
He would be sparring and he would just step in full split and slam you on the head with that heel.
unidentified
Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
He knocked my friend Larry Jones out cold.
eddie bravo
Or maybe in the beginning.
joe rogan
My friend that I was telling you how good he is, that's the guy that got knocked out cold by this guy.
Jersey Long.
eddie bravo
You know, we've seen it in K1 a few times, so it's legit.
joe rogan
Well, Andy Hoog, Andy Hoog, and Andy Hoog had also a technique we haven't seen, the spinning wheel kick to the leg.
eddie bravo
Yes.
joe rogan
Hoog was the master at that.
He would dig that heel into the leg.
brendan schaub
It was a straight movie kung fu kick.
unidentified
Yeah.
eddie bravo
Where he would get down, squat down, do like a spinning, a breakdancing move, and do a wheel kick to the guy's thigh.
A low wheel kick.
It's like doing a wheel kick, but almost on your ass.
joe rogan
Sadala trying to set something up.
What was the greatest crazy movie technique of all time?
I say it was Rio Chonan submitted Anderson Silva with that fucking flying heel hook.
I think that was like the greatest...
All-time movie technique in an MMA fight.
eddie bravo
That's happened in grappling.
joe rogan
Yeah, but in fighting Anderson Silva in an MMA fight, and you're Rio Chonan, you're fighting the guy at Shoot the Box.
He caught him in a good time.
Anderson wasn't at Shoot the Box anymore.
You know, they had like...
brendan schaub
He was at Anderson at the time, though, was he?
joe rogan
No, he wasn't quite.
He wasn't quite.
eddie bravo
The match before me and Hoyler went the first time in 2003, he went against a guy named Charles Pearson, the match right before me.
And that guy did the exact same heel hook that Rio Chonan did on Anderson and almost had him.
He almost tapped out Hoyler Gracie.
A lot of people don't know that.
Hoyler escaped by the skin of his teeth and then got his back and then choked him.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
bryan callen
Have you spoken of Hoyler since the fight since?
eddie bravo
We talk all the time.
unidentified
Okay.
eddie bravo
Yeah, we hang out and party and shit.
bryan callen
Just checking.
unidentified
He got you again, you fuck.
joe rogan
The guard.
Oh, you weren't here for the guard talk.
Eddie Bravo has the weirdest sense of humor, man.
He sneaks things out.
bryan callen
We talk all the time.
joe rogan
Eddie Bravo, no bullshit.
If he wasn't such a great jiu-jitsu fighter and he wasn't so into musicians...
eddie bravo
I'd make a great troll.
joe rogan
He would be a great fucking comedian.
He just didn't have the time to get into it.
I talked to him into going on stage.
He went on stage like eight or nine times.
unidentified
Really?
Really?
eddie bravo
A dick a few times.
bryan callen
Whatever.
joe rogan
A couple times it didn't work out.
Oh, he stopped it!
eddie bravo
I had this...
joe rogan
No, he dominated.
brendan schaub
He dominated, though.
joe rogan
Why did he get on top?
Did they just end the fight?
brendan schaub
They just end the fight.
I've been watching it, though.
I've been watching the worst thing.
bryan callen
Missing the fight.
joe rogan
Imagine if the UFC said, listen, man, we've been thinking about your commentary.
We heard you've been doing this fight past thing.
You're fucking terrible.
unidentified
Yeah.
These are awful!
joe rogan
You don't even pay attention to the fights!
Well, Bryan Stan's doing these all from now on.
Oh!
See, that was good movement by Akiyama.
Very relaxed.
Even though the head kick was coming.
Just slid out of the way.
Nice right hand.
bryan callen
Akiyama just dominated this fight.
joe rogan
He's such a stud athlete.
But see that?
That's like some blue belt shit.
bryan callen
Yeah.
joe rogan
But that's also on a moving target.
He's also exhausted.
He's fighting an MMA fight.
That's the one technique that I think...
I'm telling you, man.
There's going to be some Francis Carmel dude who knows how to throw a fucking axe kick.
eddie bravo
I believe it.
joe rogan
I believe it.
eddie bravo
One by one.
Every Kung Fu kick that was once laughed at is one by one.
They're all coming back.
joe rogan
I'm telling you that.
eddie bravo
They're all coming back.
brendan schaub
Damn you guys love you some Kung Fu and Taekwondo.
It's all coming back.
joe rogan
I won a Taekwondo tournament.
I love that shit.
Isn't that more exciting than it does actually work?
bryan callen
I love some of that up in this bitch.
eddie bravo
It's way better that all those kung fu kicks actually work than they don't work.
joe rogan
Brandon Schaub, could you imagine if you fucking axe kicked Travis Brown in the head?
Do you imagine how nutty the world would go if you had the first axe kick KO in the UFC? You step in and BAM! How crazy would this be?
I'm not bullshitting.
eddie bravo
Brandon Schaub fucking goes nuts.
You decide for six months to just really dive into kicks.
In six months you want to transform yourself into this fucking vicious kicker.
Wouldn't that be crazy?
joe rogan
Dude, you're a sponge.
brendan schaub
I mean, I could do it for sure.
joe rogan
You're a sponge.
You just live in his fucking garage.
I don't have no time for that shit.
You'd have to find a real trainer.
If you found the right trainer who could teach you that style of kicking, dude, you would be fucking guys up.
unidentified
How crazy would that be?
joe rogan
The amount of power you have in your legs.
I've seen you sprint.
I've seen you lift weights.
I've seen you do deadlifts.
All these things you're doing, what are you building?
You're building up your core, your whole column, but you're also building up your fucking legs.
unidentified
I'm building up this apple bottom.
joe rogan
That apple bottom is ridiculous.
unidentified
For retirement.
joe rogan
That apple bottom is launching bones at your opponent.
Just launching bones.
unidentified
That's what you're doing.
joe rogan
You're launching shin bones.
Like, if there's one bone you wouldn't want to get hit in the fucking face with, it's the shin bone.
What a terrible blade of a bone.
It's the one bone that's shaped like a weapon.
All these other ones are covered up with meat.
You know, even an elbow, you gotta catch a motherfucker on the point of an elbow, otherwise you're hitting with a forearm smash, and there's a lot of meat involved in the forearm smash.
When you shin someone to the dome, that's a fucking, that's a weird edged bone, man.
This is a weird feeling.
brendan schaub
True.
joe rogan
That fucking comes at you 60 miles an hour on your head.
Especially from some creepy fuck who really knows how to kick hard.
Some man-hoof dude.
Melvin Manhoof type dude.
Some scary fucker.
Just throwing these laser beam kicks at your head.
I'm telling you, anybody who doubts me, you just needed to see Pedro Hizzo in his prime.
brendan schaub
Brian, where'd you get those golden pickles from?
joe rogan
They're inside.
They're in their room.
bryan callen
They're good, right?
joe rogan
There's a couple bottles.
unidentified
You want me to get them out?
joe rogan
Get them out, man.
unidentified
Should we get them out?
joe rogan
Yeah, get them out.
brendan schaub
Should we get them out?
joe rogan
Get them out.
We've got many, many jars in there.
Grillo's pickles are very generous.
They sent me a giant fucking case of them.
They're the best pickles of all time.
brendan schaub
Real quick, this is the latest I've stayed up in, oh, about 10 years.
joe rogan
Dude, you're going to be fine.
brendan schaub
Since college.
Oh, yeah, I'll be fine.
joe rogan
It's only 2 o'clock in the morning.
brendan schaub
I know.
bryan callen
You got training tomorrow?
joe rogan
We're in California.
brendan schaub
I did double today to make up.
joe rogan
If you were in Hawaii, it would only be 11 p.m.
That's how you gotta look at shit, man.
We should all be in Hawaii.
Right through that door.
Right through that door.
There's a curtain.
Pull that back.
Go through that.
There you go.
We should all be in Hawaii.
Let's be realistic.
If we could all make a choice to bail and go to one place and bring our families and everybody exists, it'd probably be like the Big Island.
I'd want to be BJ Penn's neighbor.
bryan callen
I'd love it, dude.
joe rogan
Just all hang out together, make our own little village.
bryan callen
What do we do during the day?
Just hang out?
joe rogan
Just bang Hawaiian chicks.
No, we can't do that.
Our wives are that.
bryan callen
You said that out loud.
joe rogan
We're married.
We're kidding.
bryan callen
These are jokes.
We're married.
joe rogan
What I think we would do is have a good time by the water, be with our families.
Oh, did you guys collide?
brendan schaub
We scared each other.
unidentified
Eddie Bravo and Brennan Schaub just scared the shit out of each other.
bryan callen
There's a rumor.
Hey, Brennan, there's a rumor that...
brendan schaub
Wait, you guys want me to move to Hawaii right now?
bryan callen
No, that Tyron Woodley...
brendan schaub
I'll move to fucking Hawaii.
joe rogan
That's what I'm saying.
You know what we would do to some...
That's not what I just said!
unidentified
Hey, we're married!
bryan callen
I just said we won't do that!
Bro, what are you saying?
unidentified
You guys can put mask on and watch me.
bryan callen
Okay, fine.
I'll hold the video camera.
joe rogan
I was there a few months ago.
eddie bravo
Oh, shit!
joe rogan
Oh, Miles Jerry and Takenori Gomi.
eddie bravo
Oh, shit!
joe rogan
This dude was telling me that you gotta go there like in March or April to the Big Island.
He said that's when the whales, they're either breeding or giving birth.
I don't remember which, but he said they're everywhere.
He said it's almost dangerous to be out in your boat.
Because you're out in the boat and the whales will breach like 20 yards from you.
bryan callen
The guy was killed on his sailboat that way.
Killed on his sailboat.
joe rogan
That guy was a pussy.
I would have saw the whale.
I wouldn't have panicked.
I would have dove in the water.
brendan schaub
Jumped on his back, rode to shore.
joe rogan
Just hold the whale up.
And I would have yelled, help, because their ears are really good.
And they would have come by.
bryan callen
Here's a trivia question we've already asked.
How much does a blue whale's heart weigh?
joe rogan
Same as my dick.
brendan schaub
As much as a car.
joe rogan
If you put my dick next to a blue whale on a scale, it would balance out.
bryan callen
Blue Wells' heart weighs 1,500 pounds.
joe rogan
That's about what my dick weighs.
brendan schaub
Close.
bryan callen
That's about...
joe rogan
Well, my dick is made out of dark matter.
bryan callen
Gomi fought Nick Diaz, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah.
He fought Nate.
Nate and Nick.
Both of them lit him up.
Nate lit him up with strikes, then I believe caught him in an arm bar, and Nick caught him with a gogoplata.
brendan schaub
How big of a star was Gomi back in the day?
joe rogan
Nick tested so high for marijuana, they believe he might have been high while he was fighting.
bryan callen
Oh no.
joe rogan
Oh yes!
He won!
You know, people were arguing like, oh, you know, the pain that he got when he got hit with those shots, he didn't feel it because he was high on marijuana.
That's the one thing that you have to argue.
Like, well, marijuana is prescribed for pain.
bryan callen
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, it is.
bryan callen
True.
joe rogan
Right?
I mean, I would imagine it would help your ability to absorb pain.
bryan callen
That's a real advantage.
brendan schaub
You tell me.
joe rogan
When I was sparring, when I was doing kickboxing, I wasn't smoking weed back then.
unidentified
If that was true, everybody would be high-fighting.
joe rogan
But they can't.
They get tested.
Everybody gets tested.
That doesn't make any sense.
bryan callen
But getting punched in the face hard with a right, I don't think Wee's going to help you with that.
joe rogan
It helps if you're Nick Diaz.
I bet Nick Diaz gets in there lit up.
I bet he doesn't give a fuck.
bryan callen
People would be sparring that way all the time.
eddie bravo
Maybe they wouldn't be fighting butt off in the offside.
bryan callen
Nick Diaz would eat your jabs sober or high.
joe rogan
A lot of guys don't like to train technique high, though.
It's kind of interesting.
They say they don't learn things as good high.
Like when someone's trying to show you like a stutter step and an attack, like sometimes they get a little bit twisted up, but when they can just flow with what they know.
eddie bravo
Once it's in the DNA, that's where the weed comes in.
Right, yeah.
When you're high, you work on instincts, you flow, and your instincts just take over.
But when you're not high, there's glitches here and there because you have too much shit on your mind, you're thinking about stupid shit.
bryan callen
I actually came up with some bits when I smoked some weed and drank some wine.
Was that 10 years ago?
I was on stage and I came up with some bits.
joe rogan
Are you saying that as if it's a new thing?
unidentified
It is.
joe rogan
That's how you do comedy.
You get high and you go on stage and you come up with new shit.
You're ridiculous.
That's hilarious.
bryan callen
Hey, bro.
What'd you say about ten years ago?
What'd you say?
Because I'm about to...
This Sunday...
joe rogan
What happened?
bryan callen
This Sunday, I'm doing my one hour.
Come on down.
brendan schaub
When he said he was high making new stuff, I said, was that ten years ago?
bryan callen
Are you saying that all right?
joe rogan
Oh, he's being mean to you.
Is that what you're saying?
bryan callen
When was the last time you started doing stand-up?
brendan schaub
I've seen you stand-up about 60 times.
I'm saying if I come down to Irvine on Sunday and I see El Gato, I'm going to choke you out of this day.
joe rogan
Dude, first of all, don't kill my friend's confidence.
He's about to go film a special.
bryan callen
He can't kill my friend.
joe rogan
No, he knows this.
Don't bring up the nature of his bits, which will fucking ruin him for the thousands of people that listen to this podcast.
So let's not delve into any material.
bryan callen
It's not just that either.
It's that you're working thematically.
So my one hour, you'll see completely new stuff.
Totally new.
brendan schaub
I'll be there then.
unidentified
You'll be there.
joe rogan
This makes my dick hard.
I feel conflict between you two guys.
Is this because of the fighter and the kid?
bryan callen
He didn't invite me to dinner tonight.
joe rogan
What?
Didn't you have a set?
unidentified
What's up, bro?
brendan schaub
You told me you had a set, man.
joe rogan
You said you have a set.
brendan schaub
You live at 11. You live in Phoenix.
joe rogan
At 11, bro.
bryan callen
I don't get calls anymore.
joe rogan
You guys still friends?
brendan schaub
I'm in camp, though.
bryan callen
Yeah, but my Phoenix...
joe rogan
He's in camp.
bryan callen
Oh, now he's in camp.
joe rogan
He is in camp, though.
You can't get needy.
He's weird.
bryan callen
I know.
It's weird when he gets in camp.
joe rogan
Well, he has to be.
bryan callen
I know.
He knows.
I'm...
brendan schaub
I'm really not in camp yet.
I'm...
What can you do, though?
They tell you you gotta fight.
joe rogan
I train three times a day.
Meanwhile, we gave Calen a hard time for chewing on Mike, and everyone's chewing on Mike.
unidentified
You hear that?
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Oh, yeah.
I've been chewing on these pickles like a fucking...
unidentified
His job was giving him the hardest time, and he was chewing right into that fucking Mike.
bryan callen
I'm only 35 years old.
joe rogan
Yes, he is.
brendan schaub
I deep-throated these hot-ass pickles.
They're delicious.
bryan callen
They are delicious.
brendan schaub
They are delicious.
joe rogan
I'm not into that.
brendan schaub
You want a pickle?
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm not into these.
brendan schaub
Those taste like caca.
joe rogan
No, we're out.
brendan schaub
Those taste like caca.
joe rogan
Yeah, we're out.
I'm not a fan of these.
These are sea salt pop pops.
brendan schaub
Those pickles are fucking straight heaven.
joe rogan
Those pickles are the best ever.
brendan schaub
Aren't they good, Kellen?
You know what, though?
When you chew on a pickle, though, the mic's gonna pick it up.
They're so fucking crunchy and fresh.
Like, you could go in the other room.
I can hear that shit.
joe rogan
I wish we had some of them sriracha cashews.
God damn it.
Right now, I could go for some fucking sriracha cashews.
brendan schaub
It's like we have to eat pickles, though.
eddie bravo
Do you have a warrior bar here?
joe rogan
I don't have shit here.
brendan schaub
Everyone's asking for shit.
joe rogan
No, man.
brendan schaub
All we have is hot-ass pickles.
We need to stock up and we have pickles.
joe rogan
Pickles and stevia.
Pickles and stevia.
brendan schaub
I mean, if someone wanted to order pizza, I wouldn't yell at you.
joe rogan
I don't think pizzas are going to deliver at 2 o'clock in the morning, brother.
Where are we living?
In New York City?
We're in the valley, son.
Shit shuts down.
brendan schaub
I live in Venice, son.
joe rogan
There's pizza everywhere.
bryan callen
And the door to your studio is kind of scary looking.
unidentified
Of course it is.
joe rogan
You should be scared.
There's a werewolf in there.
Open the door.
Can you imagine you deliver a fucking pizza, you open the door, see that thing?
bryan callen
Yep.
Ariane!
brendan schaub
Ariane's working overtime.
joe rogan
Yeah, we got to stock some snacks on this bitch.
Well, I got a new Nature Box coming this week.
brendan schaub
Nature Box!
unidentified
Do those Wario bars taste like sweet?
joe rogan
No, no, no, no.
Well, it's cranberries and buffalo.
Dude, it's super healthy for you.
eddie bravo
140. But what does it taste like?
joe rogan
It tastes good.
It tastes like a beef jerky type bar, but it's easy to chew.
brendan schaub
Like more fresh, right?
joe rogan
There's no artificial preservatives.
There's no...
eddie bravo
Artificial sweeteners?
joe rogan
No, no, no.
There's nothing.
There's nothing artificial in it.
eddie bravo
It's brand new, right?
joe rogan
We've had it for a couple months now.
I would look and tell you exactly what's in it, but there's no...
brendan schaub
Cranberries.
Bro, they sent me ten of them in a box.
I ate them in two days.
I felt sick.
I ate ten in two days.
joe rogan
They're 14 grams of protein, 140 calories.
Jamie, go grab another bottle of them.
Get another one, man.
They're really good for you, too.
Only 2 grams of fat, 140 calories, 14 grams of protein.
It's just super healthy.
And that's how they used to preserve them, I guess.
They used to use cranberries and sea salt.
When they used to have to get sea salt, man, they used to have to take salt water from the ocean and boil it down.
Actual sea salt.
brendan schaub
Actual fucking sea salt.
joe rogan
So what do they do now?
unidentified
I don't know.
brendan schaub
But they still call it sea salt, right?
joe rogan
I mean, some of it is sea salt.
Some of it is iodine.
I mean, some of it is made in a lab, I guess.
I don't know how the fuck they make salt.
bryan callen
Salt is a stone.
joe rogan
I know the Himalayan...
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
Miles Jury!
brendan schaub
Big right hand!
joe rogan
Oh, Kobe's fucked!
Oh, it's over, dude.
It's over.
Damn, Miles Jury with a big win.
brendan schaub
Fuck, he's good, man.
joe rogan
With a big win.
Well, you know what?
bryan callen
Jury hasn't lost yet.
joe rogan
The kid keeps getting better, too.
He's putting in the work, man.
He's putting in the work.
brendan schaub
He's down there at Alliance in San Diego, huh?
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
That's a big KO. He has a jiu-jitsu gym, too, in San Diego.
joe rogan
Miles Jury does?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
He has his own jiu-jitsu?
No shit.
bryan callen
What happened there, man?
eddie bravo
He's a black belt in jiu-jitsu.
brendan schaub
Damn, I didn't know that.
Yeah, jiu-jitsu's a strong point.
He's just a nasty-ass striker, too.
joe rogan
Damn, and he's a tall kid.
Look at this.
Look at this.
Good movement.
brendan schaub
Very smart fighter.
joe rogan
Bang!
Oh, that was a nice right hand.
bryan callen
Nothing you can do.
joe rogan
Well, Gomi is this weird kind of striker.
He's a knockout puncher, but he's like, everything is home runs.
It's all home runs.
And it just doesn't seem like he's setting things up in any traditional way.
brendan schaub
The game's passing by a little bit, let's be honest.
joe rogan
But is it the game passing by, or is he not as fired up as he was when he was younger?
brendan schaub
Both.
joe rogan
He doesn't have the body that he had when he was younger, too.
Oh my god, these are good.
brendan schaub
It's fucking tough.
joe rogan
These pickles are insane.
The hot ones too.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I like the hot.
joe rogan
They got like habaneros and shit.
If you got balls, you eat those after you eat the pickles.
Dig in there.
Powerful Miles Jury.
The kid's really impressive.
bryan callen
He's undefeated.
brendan schaub
Me too.
Super impressive.
He's going to be tough to beat.
Yeah, his jiu-jitsu is really good, Eddie.
joe rogan
Damn.
unidentified
Damn.
eddie bravo
11th first round finish.
unidentified
That's incredible.
brendan schaub
Boy, these pickles are not easy to get into, though.
I gotta be honest.
eddie bravo
He won the English...
Tough...
I forget.
joe rogan
No, no, no, no.
He's from America.
brendan schaub
No, he's just a beast from San Diego.
joe rogan
He's from Alliance.
brendan schaub
He's a Cali kid.
joe rogan
What?
eddie bravo
I thought he was English.
joe rogan
No.
eddie bravo
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
You're confusing him with Dan Hardy, because they're both sexy.
bryan callen
He's a cute guy.
eddie bravo
That's a bad motherfucker right there.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah, dude.
Look at his movement, man.
Very nice.
Look at this setup for this right hand.
brendan schaub
His movement against Diego Sanchez?
Ridiculous.
joe rogan
Yeah, very good.
eddie bravo
Bam, bam.
Good ground and pounding.
joe rogan
That was his first big win.
He's putting a lot of weight behind those punches, too.
A lot of length and a lot of weight.
Diego was his first big win.
brendan schaub
He outclassed Diego.
joe rogan
It was a good fight, man.
eddie bravo
Do you practice up kicks, Brendan?
brendan schaub
I don't.
joe rogan
You shouldn't be giving this up on the air.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
Charles Brown can text me if he wants.
eddie bravo
Look, it's really the only thing to really counteract that ground and pound from the horse stance position.
brendan schaub
Oh, you're saying the up kicks.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
My bad.
I thought you were saying from stitch.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, 100%.
We do.
eddie bravo
You've got to be good at closing.
brendan schaub
You've got to be really good, yeah.
eddie bravo
Because that's the perfect spot for him to avoid submissions and be able to throw punches and stay standing on your feet and squat.
joe rogan
Yeah.
eddie bravo
Because you could reach the face, and right there, there's no submissions.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
eddie bravo
But the only thing you've got to worry about is those up kicks.
brendan schaub
Yep.
eddie bravo
Because you're in a perfect spot for an up kick.
So, you would think that most MMA fighters would work on that a little bit, right?
brendan schaub
Yeah, we do.
eddie bravo
There's levels, man, because, you know, I still haven't seen anybody throw kicks off their back as hard as hoist, and he is very good.
brendan schaub
I'll tell you what, man.
Crow Cop's freaking nasty at him.
He hit me with an up kick to my knee and to the face.
It was like, boom, boom.
eddie bravo
You would think a kickboxer would be the best at them, right?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
Bro, it.
It was literally like that movie Rush Hour.
Which one of y'all kicked me?
It was like...
joe rogan
Well, you know who the first guy was to kick really good off of his back?
One of the most impressive early day Henzo Gracie against Oleg Tektarov.
Remember him?
He KO'd him from his back and then stood up and blasted him in the face with a punch and broke his hand.
eddie bravo
Do you remember the story?
joe rogan
Broke his hand in that punch.
That was bare knuckle, too.
eddie bravo
The story was nobody...
brendan schaub
Like, Henzo actually practiced up kicks to get really good at him.
eddie bravo
And Murillo Bustamante...
He used to teach him in class.
And Murillo Bustamante...
brendan schaub
Thought, because I guess they were close, thought it was a waste of time.
Look at that, son!
eddie bravo
Until Henzo pulled it off.
Oh, shit!
bryan callen
Large portion of head strikes.
Dude!
joe rogan
Is that to your head or from your head?
brendan schaub
No, no, that's delivering, son.
unidentified
Damn.
brendan schaub
Minimum 300 attempts.
joe rogan
Wow.
brendan schaub
Not a big deal.
It's whatever.
bryan callen
Not bad, brother.
brendan schaub
We got work to do!
joe rogan
My man's in shape.
brendan schaub
I'll go train right now, son.
joe rogan
I got some kettlebells here.
unidentified
Oh!
brendan schaub
Don't tempt a brother.
I'm all hyped up on fucking bulletproof coffee and I've ate about 17 hot pickles.
I'm either gonna shit my pants or get a workout.
You pick, gentlemen.
Both will make you sweat.
joe rogan
No, dude, I got kettlebells here and an archery target.
brendan schaub
Look at how thick he is.
bryan callen
Look at how thick that dude is.
eddie bravo
You get into bows and arrows or what?
brendan schaub
I love it.
joe rogan
It's fun.
It's fun, man.
brendan schaub
Hey, I thought you were gonna make fun of me when we went to your house.
eddie bravo
Sure.
joe rogan
I got some.
brendan schaub
When we went to your house and you released those chickens, I was scared of shit around the chickens.
I told my brother and my friend, I was like, fuck, man.
Rogan, release those chickens.
I was scared as fuck.
But I was trying to act tough.
I'm not used to wild animals.
Release those chickens.
I was scared as fuck, man.
joe rogan
Well, I'm starting to develop a farm.
That's my first step.
My first step is having all these chickens.
I got like 24 chickens.
I think it'd be nice.
I want to do it personally, but I think ultimately the best move would be, and I've said this before, the best move would be if, like, friends.
You know how Uriah Faber lives?
He lives on a corner.
brendan schaub
I agree, man.
joe rogan
They own all these houses.
They own the whole corner.
brendan schaub
The whole neighborhood.
It's like the whole neighborhood.
joe rogan
It's a dope move.
brendan schaub
It's you and your homies.
joe rogan
If someone could figure out how we could all do something like that.
eddie bravo
And who lives with Uriah Faber?
All his family?
joe rogan
Well, Uriah Faber has his own house, but Chad Mendes lives right next to him.
And Uriah owns a few houses, too.
brendan schaub
Joey Benavidez, he rents it to all of them.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
It's all his training camp homies and his friends all live in the same area.
joe rogan
They call it the block.
It's a brilliant idea.
So they have, like, this whole area where they're all, like, they go grilling together.
They have parties.
They have people come over.
And they're super friendly dudes.
So it's, like, a real warm, fun environment.
And all this camaraderie.
They all live together like that.
And I've always felt, like...
That would be the best thing.
If all of our yards boarded each other, and then you fucking grow vegetables together.
brendan schaub
That would be dope.
joe rogan
When I was a kid, when I was a kid, my dad was in this thing, my stepfather was in this, it was like a cooperative thing in school, and they would grow plants together.
It was in a university.
And they would all grow like a bunch of different plants.
And I remember going there and thinking, this is what a great idea this is.
Like everybody would contribute.
Like some days, like he brought me down there on like a Tuesday.
And I remember it very clearly because this goat attacked me.
This fucking male goat.
Like I was hanging out.
I was little, man.
I was like seven years old.
And this fucking goat starts head-butting me.
And I'm grabbing the goat and I'm freaking out.
And then he came over and jacked the goat.
I'm like, get the fuck out of here, bitch.
The female goat started attacking me when I was holding on to the male goat because she decided I was the enemy.
brendan schaub
Gnarly-ass goats.
joe rogan
I'd been feeding her just a few minutes ago.
Yeah, so I remember it very clearly.
But I remember this thing.
What a great idea to have a bunch of vegetables growing right there.
And if you do that and you've got chickens, just vegetables and chickens, you've got days of food.
brendan schaub
Yeah, yeah.
I'm down for the chickens and vegetables and all that shit.
How about we just get a bunch of badass cars?
We share cars.
eddie bravo
We get cars.
brendan schaub
We get girls.
There's girls.
There's drugs.
unidentified
There's also...
joe rogan
Hey, do you retire?
bryan callen
Wait till you retire at least.
brendan schaub
Hey, but not in Calabasas.
joe rogan
When did Mike Goldberg start DJing?
eddie bravo
No, what I'm thinking right now is...
unidentified
Sometimes you forget you're on there.
joe rogan
That's a fucking slick DJ time.
bryan callen
That's the funniest thing I've ever heard.
joe rogan
Mike Over looks sharp.
unidentified
He looks sharp.
joe rogan
He could be running the tables at Hakkistan.
What is that?
The MGM? The back of Mike's head.
bryan callen
He looks like he was taking a nap.
joe rogan
How dare you?
bryan callen
I'm just saying.
joe rogan
He's wearing headphones, man.
He doesn't have the luxury of the shaved head.
bryan callen
You don't want to call him a DJ now.
I can't say it's a nap.
joe rogan
He's a sweet guy.
You're a three-piece suit.
bryan callen
I like him.
joe rogan
He's a great guy.
unidentified
He's a sweetie.
bryan callen
No, I like Mike Over.
joe rogan
He's a sweetie.
bryan callen
Oh, he's a good guy.
joe rogan
We were talking about...
Were we talking about this before?
Yeah, we were.
We weren't on air.
We were talking about Mark Hunt Bigfoot and the difference between the kind of punishment that Bigfoot was able to take in that fight, which is incredible, and then his last fight with Orlovsky, two shots and he's down.
brendan schaub
Oh, you're talking about when he's off DR2? Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
It's crazy.
brendan schaub
Crazy advantage he gives, guys.
joe rogan
Is that the case?
Or is it just the case of the standard thing of seeing guys just have Daniel Cormier knocked him out?
You know, there's a bunch of fights.
He's taken a lot of damage in fights.
Cain Velasquez fucked him up in his last fight.
brendan schaub
I'm just saying, man, when you're on TRT and fighting down in Australia, and you're eating right and left hand from Mark Hunt, and then you fight in Brazil off TRT and you get knocked out in one punch, God, it's a good argument, man.
I'm not saying it is, but it's a fucking good argument.
joe rogan
Kind of, but isn't it also, look, the Hunt fight.
brendan schaub
Because Arlowski punched me in the face several times, didn't feel shit, you know what I'm saying?
And Bigfoot's been taking punishment before.
It's weird, man.
joe rogan
Right, but isn't it true, though, that sometimes you get punched in the face and you're just getting punched on the cheek or you're getting punched here?
brendan schaub
It's placement, man.
joe rogan
You can get one dank across the tip of the chin and the legs just go.
brendan schaub
It's not even the chin.
Most of the time it's behind the ear or on the side of the head or behind the ear.
joe rogan
That's what I'm saying.
Marshall got tagged tonight.
He got tagged right behind the ear.
brendan schaub
Marshall got hit there.
When DC fought Bigfoot, he tagged him behind the ear.
Cain Velasquez got hit behind the ear against JDS. I got hit behind the ear against Big Country.
It's all about placement, man.
joe rogan
Big Country's really good at that looping right hand and lands it.
brendan schaub
The best.
joe rogan
Casting style, right?
He lands it a lot of different ways.
brendan schaub
If I was a betting man and you made me pick, I would say Roy is going to land that.
He's going to wobble Hunt, then he's going to take him down and TKO him.
joe rogan
Wow.
brendan schaub
That's a crazy thing.
In the second round.
joe rogan
Do you remember when Roy was just a grappler?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It was a long time ago when Eddie and I first met Roy.
brendan schaub
A long, long time ago.
He really doesn't use it anymore.
joe rogan
It's crazy.
It's crazy because the dude didn't even start striking until 2009. When I interviewed him in the...
Boom!
Look how fucking hard he hits, bro.
When I interviewed him...
eddie bravo
And his mentality.
joe rogan
He's ferocious.
His chin is iron, granite chin.
The only time he's been stopped is Arlovsky stopped him.
I think that's the only time.
And that was a ridiculous situation because he had Arlovsky down inside control and they stood him up.
It was ridiculous.
It was pathetic.
But see, he didn't even start striking until 2009. I mean, think of that.
He's knocked out Noguera.
Knocked out Mitrione.
You see, knocked out Dave Herman there.
There's Tookshire.
Oh, that was...
brendan schaub
That was Congo.
Boom!
joe rogan
Look at that right hand.
unidentified
Boom!
joe rogan
Left hook.
unidentified
Boom!
brendan schaub
Roy is also a smart fighter, so when the going gets rough in this fight and they're trading bombs, Hunt has to keep trading.
What's Hunt going to do?
Take him down?
Nope.
Roy can take him down.
Roy's going to say, fuck this, abandon ship, emergency break, boom, I'm taking it down, I can win the fight.
Hunt just says, nah, I've got to keep throwing.
joe rogan
You fought Roy.
brendan schaub
That's the difference.
joe rogan
Is he the hardest hitter that you've ever fought?
brendan schaub
No.
Well, it's tough.
joe rogan
Shane's the hardest you've ever been hit by.
brendan schaub
Yes.
Roy hit me behind the ear.
Roy landed three right hands.
Two were straight on.
I didn't feel anything.
Like we said, playsman, hit me here, hit me here.
Then the one I turned on a jab hit me behind the ear, and that was the ending shot.
So I really didn't feel it.
joe rogan
He's so good at landing that shot, too.
brendan schaub
But if you look case by case, Roy has to be the hardest hitter.
You know what I'm saying?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's amazing.
It's the leverage.
brendan schaub
It's the leverage and the way he throws that right hand, just reckless as shit and all the power.
joe rogan
And also this fucking confidence in his chin.
I mean, Junior Dos Santos hit him with everything but the fucking kitchen sink.
bryan callen
How about Verdun?
joe rogan
Dude, he thought he won the Verdun fight.
bryan callen
Yeah, eating those knees.
joe rogan
He was like, that guy never hurt me.
I mean, he's a fucking animal, bro.
He's an animal.
brendan schaub
You know what's tough, though?
And everyone here loves Roy.
At some point, that crazy durability chin...
It could be this fight.
It could be ten fights from now.
It just goes away.
It's like, oh, shit.
joe rogan
Or he is just that country motherfucker that you hear about that lives up in the mountain and chops wood with his face and doesn't give a fuck.
unidentified
He can fight 170. There's no one like that, though, is there?
brendan schaub
You'd think Fado would be that guy.
joe rogan
Right.
bryan callen
He can fight 170. No, not 170. I'm kidding.
I'm being silly.
He's got a lot of weight on him.
joe rogan
Well, he's weighing about...
What is he weighing in?
unidentified
250?
brendan schaub
260. Is it possible that that beard can absorb punishment?
joe rogan
No, no, no.
eddie bravo
Is it possible?
unidentified
No.
eddie bravo
No?
brendan schaub
Otherwise, Kimbo slides to be the champ.
You know what I'm saying?
That dude had a gnarly ass beard.
bryan callen
He's got straight out of the belly.
brendan schaub
I remember when I trained with him, I was like, guilty.
joe rogan
He's jerry-curled all over your hands.
bryan callen
I mean, he has got a...
joe rogan
There's no reason.
Kimmel Slice had the best look of all time.
brendan schaub
You know what?
Nicest fighter I know.
joe rogan
The greatest guy.
brendan schaub
Nicest fighter I know.
joe rogan
He's a sweetheart.
You know what I'm having on my podcast, man?
unidentified
Kid Cudi.
joe rogan
Houston Alexander.
brendan schaub
Aren't you having Kid Cudi on?
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm having Kid Cudi on Monday.
brendan schaub
That's fucking huge.
Me and my brother are huge Kid Cudi fans.
unidentified
Yeah, he's awesome.
brendan schaub
When he sits down, he'll say, Big Brown loves ya.
joe rogan
I'm going to tell him Big Brown loves ya.
brendan schaub
I'll probably even walk out to one of his songs if he's cool.
unidentified
Ooh, dude.
joe rogan
I'll tell him.
I'll tell him on Monday.
brendan schaub
Give Big Brown a shout out.
I'll walk out to one of his songs.
joe rogan
I'll tell him on Monday, man.
brendan schaub
God, he's good.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's good.
But I'm going to get Houston Alexander on, too.
He's another motherfucker.
God damn, Houston Alexander.
He had some power.
brendan schaub
You want to talk about Styles makes fight?
How about when Houston Kimbo slot?
Everyone's like, oh shit!
This will be the fight of the century!
Literally, the whole fight you watch like this.
joe rogan
It was a tough fight.
brendan schaub
It was so boring.
joe rogan
They were both exhausted.
brendan schaub
And no one committed because they both have knockout power.
It was weird.
joe rogan
How about when Houston Alexander fought Keith Jardine?
Nobody knew who he was.
brendan schaub
Oh, I know.
joe rogan
Caught him.
Woo!
Alexander can punch, man.
brendan schaub
Mark Hunt's a scary dude, man.
And he's familiar in Japan.
joe rogan
Listen, he's a star in Japan.
brendan schaub
Superstar.
joe rogan
Superstar.
He's the K1 Grand Prix champion.
brendan schaub
He's fought some of the best of the best of all time.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
If you have a tattoo on your neck, do not talk shit to a guy.
eddie bravo
Man, it looks like they packed out a stadium here, huh?
joe rogan
Good crowd.
There's a lot of dudes with neck tattoos.
brendan schaub
That's a good point.
That's a legit point.
There's a lot of guys in Venice with dirty feet with neck tattoos.
joe rogan
Neck tattoos.
brendan schaub
And like, fucking all skinny.
I'm just saying, Mark Hunt is the gnarliest tattoo.
joe rogan
I think that's his son's name, by the way.
Whatever.
I'm pretty sure that's his son's name that he had written in kanji on his neck.
brendan schaub
You know me, I'm always coming up with schemes or something to get a guy to fight me.
I want this big fight.
And with Hunt, we're talking shit back and forth.
I said, fuck it.
Let's put our fight purses on the line.
I win, I get all your money.
You win, you get all mine.
Thinking he'd be like, nah.
He was like, cool.
Cool, man.
We'll ask Dana.
You know, knowing damn well Dana's not even...
We'll ask Dana.
We'll see how it goes, you know?
He shut that shit down real quick.
joe rogan
Well, didn't Bisping just offer that to Luke Rockhold?
brendan schaub
Stole a page out of Shob's book.
Yeah, he did.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Me and Bisping talked about that.
joe rogan
Yeah, Bisping, he was being really funny about it, too.
Saying, since I get paid about five times more, it's much more valuable to me.
brendan schaub
Bro, let's talk about this, though.
Mark Hunt...
bryan callen
I'm really excited about this fight, guys.
brendan schaub
I can't wait for this fight.
Let's talk about Mark Hunt real quick, though.
Just a couple years ago, if you remember...
He got taken down by Chris Tuster.
He lost to McCorkle by submission.
joe rogan
McCorkle caught him in submission.
brendan schaub
McCorkle caught him in submission.
He went to that weird fight in Denver with Rothwell where they call it the worst heavyweight fight of all time.
So you're like, damn, Mark Hunt is not doing well.
Look at this motherfucker now.
bryan callen
Killing the game.
Killing the game.
joe rogan
Well, that Rothwell fight, man, was in Denver.
And if you don't live in Denver, good luck fighting in Denver if you weigh 260 pounds.
brendan schaub
Listen, if you're not in shape in New Zealand, when you get to Denver, you're also not going to be in shape.
unidentified
If you're not in shape in California, when you fly to Florida, your fat ass still ain't in shape.
joe rogan
That is true.
brendan schaub
I used to fly train partners in and they'd be crazy out of shape.
Bro, this altitude.
You're fat as shit, bro.
No, it doesn't matter.
Where'd you come from?
Jacksonville?
Yeah, you're fat in Jacksonville.
You know what I'm saying?
It drives me nuts.
joe rogan
How disappointing must that be for professional athletes?
Like, they come in professional athletes to work with you.
And their shape, like the kind of conditioning they're in.
brendan schaub
We would send them home the next day.
joe rogan
Would you?
brendan schaub
Yep.
Beat it, nerd.
Go kick rocks, geek.
joe rogan
Beat it, nerd.
So, don't they say that the best way to do it is to sleep at sea level and train at altitude?
They say, like, living in San Bernardino.
brendan schaub
No, sleep at altitude, train at sea level.
joe rogan
Yes, that's what I meant.
Train it where there's no altitude.
And then sleep.
unidentified
Why?
joe rogan
Because your body, you get the harder work rate at sea level.
unidentified
You get more reps in.
joe rogan
There's plenty of oxygen.
unidentified
More reps.
joe rogan
More energy exerted.
Because you're not struggling.
But there is a benefit to living and training up there, but it's not as much of a benefit as sleeping up there, but training it's here.
brendan schaub
See, I used to train at obviously high altitude and live at high altitude.
I feel ten times better living in California.
I get better training, my body recovers better.
I breathe better.
joe rogan
Do you ever feel a difference?
brendan schaub
Flourishing in L.A. What?
unidentified
More oxygen.
joe rogan
Oh, you're getting very excited.
brendan schaub
Sorry, man.
Those sprinkles got me crunk as shit.
I'm also going to shit my pants any second.
joe rogan
It's also, there's a habaneros in there.
brendan schaub
I know.
unidentified
That's what it is.
bryan callen
Beautiful.
brendan schaub
And I drank seven cups of coffee.
joe rogan
Do you, like, if you were going to fight in Denver, would you go to Denver and prepare?
brendan schaub
Yeah, I would.
unidentified
Hmm.
joe rogan
Kind of have to, right?
brendan schaub
You know what?
But Joe Silva said he's never going to put heavyweights on a Denver card again.
joe rogan
Because of that?
brendan schaub
Thanks, Rothwell and Hunt.
Thanks.
Thank you, sir.
unidentified
Ah!
joe rogan
It's hard, man, if you're fucking not from there, man.
brendan schaub
Real quick, Mark Hunt's 9-8, number 6 in the world.
That's fucking gangster, man.
joe rogan
9-8.
brendan schaub
5-10, 264. Hey, real quick, if you're in the NFL and you throw 9 touchdowns, 8 interceptions, you don't have a job.
I'm just saying.
joe rogan
Yeah, but this isn't the NFL. This is Mark Hunt.
brendan schaub
I agree.
joe rogan
K-1 Grand Prix champion who knocked out Czech Congo.
K1 Grand Prix champion who was the shortest fighter ever.
God, this is a good fight.
bryan callen
Man, they look exactly the same.
joe rogan
His fight and Stefan Struve's height, it was the most disparity in size ever in a heavyweight fight.
And Hunt landed a leaping left hook that destroyed Struve's jaw.
brendan schaub
Broke his jaw.
bryan callen
Warm cheese against caramel.
joe rogan
This is an interesting fight, man.
Very interesting.
Hunt certainly has more weapons, but he's also been in more wars.
brendan schaub
I disagree.
I don't think he has more weapons.
unidentified
Stand up?
brendan schaub
No, I'm saying overall.
I'm saying as an MMA fighter.
joe rogan
No, no, he definitely doesn't overall.
He's got some tits.
He's got more weapons standing up.
brendan schaub
100%.
joe rogan
But Roy arguably has more power in his one weapon.
eddie bravo
Roy isn't known as a good wrestler.
He has trips.
brendan schaub
He has trips.
eddie bravo
Yeah, but Mark Hunt has been working on his takedown defense.
brendan schaub
Dude, Mark Hunt's left hook is from fucking outer space.
He knocks aliens out with that shit.
eddie bravo
Mark Hunt's not easy to takedown.
He's harder than shit, son.
joe rogan
He just tagged Nelson.
eddie bravo
Holy shit!
Damn!
joe rogan
Can you imagine if this is the first fight where we see Roy get stopped?
unidentified
It might be.
eddie bravo
It might be.
He might not be able to take Mark Hunt down.
brendan schaub
I think Roy's too smart, man.
joe rogan
Very good at slipping in and out of shit, too.
He's really good at that check hook.
Ooh, Roy goes for the takedown early.
brendan schaub
Let me tell you.
Let me tell you.
I told my brother on the way down, I said, boy, he's a shooter.
unidentified
He's a Roy.
brendan schaub
He's smart, man.
Oh, you cut all that weight?
You take him down early, it's going to exhaust him.
He's not going to have the same power.
joe rogan
Well, not only that, Hunt is a very skillful striker.
He's not going to just stand right in front of you.
Like, you see when Roy went to throw that right hand?
Hunt slides right out of the range of shit.
Just out of the range of shit.
brendan schaub
Poked him in the eye?
Wouldn't that be the worst if the fight stops in the eye poke and it's all the way in Japan?
joe rogan
Right now.
brendan schaub
This entire night would be ruined.
joe rogan
Yeah, isn't that sad?
eddie bravo
At least no one would have gotten hurt.
joe rogan
I fucking hate...
I hate the glove situation, man.
I feel like there's gotta be a way to...
Oh yeah, he poked him right in the fucking eye.
unidentified
He said it too.
brendan schaub
He said enjoy your victory with one fucking eye.
joe rogan
It's so disappointing, man.
I mean, nobody means to do it.
That's a Muay Thai thing too, you know?
They train that with the glove on.
He's alright.
He's alright.
He's gonna keep going.
Beautiful, beautiful.
They need to come up with a solution, Big Brown.
What's the solution?
Is it something that covers the fingertips?
unidentified
Oven mitts.
joe rogan
Oven mitts, right?
brendan schaub
Oven mitts.
eddie bravo
Finger condoms.
joe rogan
It's obviously not no gloves.
No gloves, no solution at all for that.
brendan schaub
You have to have the fingers out, man, for grappling.
joe rogan
Yeah, I know.
Yeah, but is it...
eddie bravo
Oh!
joe rogan
Beautiful left kick to the body.
Goddamn.
He put some fucking pop in that.
brendan schaub
Mark Hunt's a...
Ooh, good right hand.
unidentified
Oh, he caught him.
joe rogan
Nelson gets angry.
brendan schaub
Remember, Hunt's been KO'd before by Melvin Manhoof.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
He did.
He did.
In 18 seconds.
unidentified
Melvin Manhoof is a motherfucker.
brendan schaub
Straight up scary.
joe rogan
Meanwhile, remember that fight with Robbie Lawler?
bryan callen
Hunt is so much faster than he should be.
brendan schaub
He's beating the shit out of Robbie Lawler.
joe rogan
There's that leg kick, man.
You just get kicked by a telephone pole.
That's not a normal knee.
What kind of knee is that?
Look at the size of that knee.
unidentified
That's three knees.
eddie bravo
Roy's throwing some serious shit.
joe rogan
He is.
bryan callen
Three knees.
joe rogan
But you know what?
If Hunt's smart and he keeps sliding towards his right after he lands shots, he takes away some of the right hand.
Slide to the right.
Because Roy very rarely throws lefts.
His left is a measuring device.
brendan schaub
Yes, exactly.
joe rogan
I mean, he'll throw a left to get you thinking about it, but that right hand is the bomb diggity.
brendan schaub
With me, he threw a double jab.
joe rogan
See, there's the right.
brendan schaub
A double jab to a huge right hand.
That's his thing.
He goes, bop, bop, shakes it, and then big right hand.
joe rogan
See, the thing about a striker like Hunt, like, look how slick he is.
bryan callen
He's slick.
brendan schaub
He's basically 300 pounds right now, too.
Moving like a fucking ballerina elephant.
joe rogan
Oh, and there's a clean right hand he landed.
See, there's a disparity in technical advantages.
unidentified
100%.
joe rogan
Like the technical advantage that Mario has.
brendan schaub
His movement, too.
joe rogan
Yeah, his movement.
But that's also a technical advantage.
brendan schaub
100%.
joe rogan
He knows exactly where he's coming.
And look, if he avoids the right hand, see?
It's all the avoiding the right hand, though.
He doesn't have to worry about knees or kicks.
He's just worried about that right hand.
brendan schaub
And at his level, if they go, all this guy has the right hand, he's going to go, oh, cool.
joe rogan
It's a totally different animal.
You're dealing with a K-1 Grand Prix champion.
brendan schaub
But now you're talking about a guy who can stick in there and has better cardio than you.
joe rogan
Maybe.
Who knows who's got better cardio so far.
But right now you're just dealing with Mark Hunt.
I mean, Mark Hunt was fat, but it doesn't mean he's out of shape.
Just because he's 290 pounds, he could have been starting off at 340 and gotten really good shape at 290 and had a cut down at 265. And still be able to kick some fucking ass for three rounds or five rounds.
brendan schaub
Apparently you're right.
It's five rounds.
joe rogan
I'm very excited when I found out.
I knew it was five rounds, but I forgot for a second.
Oh, that's what I wanted to talk to you about.
That's deep water.
Did you hear that?
I don't know if this is true, but if it is true...
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
Roy tagged him!
brendan schaub
Roy got him with the left hook, too.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah, he did.
Someone said that Junior Dos Santos, the Stipe Miocic fight, he requested a three-round fight for the main event.
brendan schaub
Did you hear that?
joe rogan
Is that true?
brendan schaub
I heard he wants a three-round fight.
Why do you think that is?
joe rogan
Maybe those two fights with Kane, those fucking horrible five-round wars, man.
Maybe he doesn't want to do that to his body.
brendan schaub
If I'm Stipe, I'm saying, nope, five rounds.
joe rogan
The other thing that Hunt is good at is rolling with shit.
brendan schaub
Hunt looks tired now, man.
Hunt looks a little tired.
joe rogan
Not to me.
He doesn't get stiff with stuff.
He rolls.
Like when things are coming at him, he rolls away from things.
See that?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
He takes a lot of the power off of those punches when he does that.
And for someone who's not used to a guy that's that slick like that, it also makes you very tired because you're decelerating your own punches instead of hitting something.
brendan schaub
Yeah, missing a punch makes you more tired than actually hitting someone.
joe rogan
Yeah.
When you're fighting a guy, that's why Ali would wear guys out so well.
brendan schaub
Yep.
joe rogan
Because he would just be standing in front of them and they would just be fucking eating air sandwiches.
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Look at that.
joe rogan
Beautiful movement.
You know what that is, man?
That's just knowledge.
Just knowing where the punches are coming from.
unidentified
It's just experience, man.
Roy looks a little tired.
eddie bravo
His head's always in the right spot.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, it's so tough.
If he knows that you have two weapons, right?
I mean, Roy only hit him with one pretty good leg kick.
It's a pretty good leg kick, though.
brendan schaub
Not game-changing.
joe rogan
No, but pretty good.
Now, here's a couple of good combinations.
brendan schaub
Roy landed a great left hook right hand.
That was the...
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Boom.
joe rogan
There's a nice right hand.
Right to the eyeball.
Boom.
And look, slides away.
unidentified
Boom.
joe rogan
There's one over the top.
That tagged him a little bit.
brendan schaub
He kind of rolled with it, though.
joe rogan
He rolled with the left hook.
But there's a good leg kick.
But then he rolled with that, too.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he rolled with it and just went with it.
joe rogan
But it's like when Roy mixes it up, anytime a fighter mixes it up, he opens up all these other possibilities because he creates new variables.
If you introduce new variables, like that's why GSP was so good.
You never knew what the fuck he was going to do.
So that extra half of a second when you're thinking, what is he going to do?
Then he executes something.
That extra half of a second is such an advantage.
That along with the comfort level that a guy like GSP had from all those championship fights is one of the reasons that led him to be one of the great fighters of all time.
He was so good at being unpredictable.
You didn't know if he was going to strike or try to grapple.
And guys would be thinking, what's he going to do?
Fuck, he already did it.
And then you're always playing catch-up.
bryan callen
Yeah.
I talked to Nate Marquardt about that, who was his main training partner, and he would always say, you didn't know if he was going to shoot a double leg on you.
Oh!
joe rogan
He took him down.
unidentified
Look at his back.
Look at this.
brendan schaub
See, Hunt rolls all fours.
bryan callen
Oh!
eddie bravo
What if he gets him?
unidentified
Oh!
brendan schaub
He's high.
bryan callen
Look at how thick his legs are.
joe rogan
Roy is very good though.
He's very good.
He's almost out.
He's out.
Oh my goodness.
Oh my goodness.
Hunt's out.
And Roy had to adjust his knee pad.
That's interesting.
What's that about?
eddie bravo
It was uncomfortable.
joe rogan
Yeah, but I mean, what's up?
Do you think he's got a knee injury?
Oh, back fist.
That's a big, big moment for Hunt, right?
brendan schaub
Yeah, getting up like that.
joe rogan
It's the fact that he could.
He was able to escape.
brendan schaub
Dude, he's tough to keep down now.
It's all he's training, it looks like.
joe rogan
He's so fucking strong, too.
Look at the back on that fucking dude.
eddie bravo
Takes a while to get it all together.
Some people would have quit.
He just kept going, and now he's finally...
He's hard to take down, and he's got a little bit of jiu-jitsu.
joe rogan
And he's 290 and 510. That helps.
brendan schaub
Yeah, that helps a little bit.
eddie bravo
Did he get down to 265?
joe rogan
For a little bit.
For about 10 minutes.
eddie bravo
So he had to cut to 265?
joe rogan
Yeah, he lost 19 pounds in one day.
They said he lost 19 pounds in one day.
So he's at least, you know...
unidentified
A solid 284. A solid 284. That's so ridiculous.
joe rogan
That's so ridiculous.
eddie bravo
What if he got down to 205?
joe rogan
But meanwhile, he fucking moves good.
He moves good.
But you know what?
Mike Dolce made some really good points.
He was talking about Cain Velasquez.
He was like, yeah, he's the best of all time.
Yeah, he's awesome.
And Fedor, yeah, he was fucking amazing in his prime.
And probably, oh, nice right hand.
But he goes, he would have been even better if he lost that body fat.
brendan schaub
I disagree.
I disagree.
I think you need some body fat.
Listen, like I said, we all love Mike Dolce.
It's not a bodybuilding competition.
If Fedor or Cain Velasquez both had six packs, they wouldn't have the same cardio.
I think you need some of that fat to have some of that cardio.
eddie bravo
But when you're trying to cut weight down...
Heavyweights aren't?
Yeah, heavyweights.
Yeah, for sure.
brendan schaub
So why would Kane go, wait a second, I have the best card in the game?
Let me change my diet and get this six-pack because Dolce thinks I need to be lesser fat.
joe rogan
Plus, he's going to alienate a lot of people that love Roy Nelson because Roy Nelson looks like the average American.
eddie bravo
Oh!
Big left hook.
brendan schaub
Shit!
I've never seen Roy like that.
eddie bravo
Big left hook.
joe rogan
Oh!
But Roy Nelson fires back.
brendan schaub
This is what Roy wants, man.
joe rogan
If you didn't know Roy Nelson was a UFC fighter, and you saw that dude by a swimming pool, and you talked shit to him, what a fucking colossal mistake that would be.
bryan callen
I had a huge mistake.
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
Oh my goodness!
bryan callen
Oh my god!
Oh my goodness!
Oh my god!
unidentified
That is a bad Mark Beck is a motherfucker, dude.
joe rogan
He is a motherfucker.
bryan callen
I've never seen that faceplant.
I've never seen Roy Nelson take a shot like that.
joe rogan
Holy shit.
unidentified
Wow.
bryan callen
Oh, no.
brendan schaub
That's fucking scary.
joe rogan
What do you mean, oh, no?
You hate Mark Hunt?
bryan callen
No, I'm just saying, wow.
That was crazy.
brendan schaub
No, you said oh, no.
unidentified
You said oh, no.
It was brutal.
eddie bravo
Explain yourself.
unidentified
Anyway.
joe rogan
Bravo turned on you.
He was with you.
He turned on you.
brendan schaub
Look at this.
bryan callen
I'm a big country operative.
Oh, no.
joe rogan
Look how Mark Hunt walks away, too.
It looks so painful.
I love how he does that.
That walk away.
He's done that to three dudes now.
brendan schaub
Look at this.
joe rogan
Look at this.
Right up cut.
unidentified
Boom!
joe rogan
Look at this.
bryan callen
Right on the chin.
joe rogan
Look at that walkaway.
Mark Hunt is the king of the walkaway KO. He tripped right there.
Look at that.
But that's the referee got in his way.
eddie bravo
No, no, no.
Watch.
unidentified
Watch it again.
joe rogan
The referee pushed him.
Bullshit.
eddie bravo
Watch this.
unidentified
Boom!
bryan callen
Oh, my, my.
joe rogan
The fucking referee pushes him, man.
eddie bravo
So what?
brendan schaub
Hey, Andy.
eddie bravo
What's up, man?
He should have blocked the ref.
Put a forearm in his neck.
joe rogan
That shit was bananas.
eddie bravo
Imagine if he would have fucking high spin the ref.
joe rogan
A beautiful ending.
That referee ruined a beautiful walk-off KO. That was crazy.
bryan callen
Still a beautiful walk-off KO. Got caught right in the chin.
joe rogan
Well, he got caught by one of the best strikers in MMA, period.
brendan schaub
Hardest hitter, by far the hardest hitter in the division.
Seriously, out of all the heavyweight fighters, nobody moves like him with a striker.
unidentified
He's like a professional boxer.
bryan callen
Harder than Junior, harder than Kane.
brendan schaub
100%.
unidentified
But he moves so smooth.
eddie bravo
He moves like a big black guy, right?
He's so smooth.
bryan callen
Oh, wow.
I'm not touching that.
brendan schaub
Wow, yeah.
That's all you done.
unidentified
With cream.
eddie bravo
No, but you know what I'm talking about, right?
unidentified
With cream.
eddie bravo
You know what I'm talking about?
unidentified
Cream.
joe rogan
Nobody moves that smooth.
brendan schaub
Roy Snowman knows my smooth, man.
eddie bravo
Kane moves professionally.
Kane moves professionally, but he moved like a brother.
joe rogan
Well, I think what Samoans, you know, have, one of the things that they like, there's so many guys like David Tua, Mark Hunt, they have incredible ability to generate power.
brendan schaub
Such a beast.
joe rogan
Like David Tua, do you remember David Tua when he was in his primary?
John Ruiz?
Luizus.
Fucking Luizus.
He had unbelievable success.
And no one has a bigger fucking jaw.
Like, who's got a wider Mount Rushmore jaw than Mark Hunt?
He takes a tremendous bomb.
eddie bravo
How old is he?
joe rogan
I think he's like 38 or 39 or something like that.
brendan schaub
Every bit of 38. Thank you, Jesus.
unidentified
He looks 29. I'll tell you what, he's in his fucking prime.
joe rogan
That's a fact.
brendan schaub
Mark, you've had some huge wins in your career.
You just beat another top ten opponent.
unidentified
Is there any heavyweight out there you got your sights set on that you'd like to fight next?
Aw, that's cute.
joe rogan
Aw.
brendan schaub
Boom.
You gotta like Mark Hunt, man.
joe rogan
He's a great guy.
I hung out with him at the airport.
Him and his training partner.
He's a sweetheart.
Really, really fun guy to hang out with and talk to.
Very friendly.
It's so common there too, man.
So common there.
You know, what you were saying earlier about him, about his career being...
Here's one further.
When he first got signed by the UFC, they had his Strikeforce contract.
They didn't want to honor it.
They had his Pride contract.
They didn't want to honor his Pride contract.
Not that they didn't want to honor it, but they didn't want him to fight.
They wanted to pay him off.
And he said, no, I want to fight.
Not that they want to honor.
Of course, they would honor any contract.
But they didn't think that he was UFC material.
What's happening?
It's going up.
They didn't think he was UFC material.
They thought he'd lost a few guys, and he said, look, I want to prove it to you.
And then he loses his first fight, and fuck.
And they give him a second chance, and then, man, on a roll.
brendan schaub
That was super impressive.
That was insane.
eddie bravo
He lost how many straight?
joe rogan
Well, he lost to McCorkle, and then he lost after that to Junior Dos Santos.
Is that the next loss, or was there a loss in between?
brendan schaub
No, he lost to McCorkle.
Did he lose that decision in Denver?
joe rogan
That's a good question.
brendan schaub
He won it?
joe rogan
Did he beat Brennan Schaub?
I mean, not Brennan Schaub.
He's right here.
Ben Rothwell?
brendan schaub
Ben Rothwell in Denver.
I forget.
I know it was a decision.
joe rogan
Let me pull it up.
Mark Hunt.
brendan schaub
Damn, I've never seen Roy get taken out like that.
joe rogan
Fuck, that was beautiful.
unidentified
Amazing.
joe rogan
Dude, that shit was beautiful.
brendan schaub
Dope-ass picture on Wikipedia.
eddie bravo
Hey, have you guys seen Josh Barnett and Renato Laranja do a scene from Brokeback Mountain?
bryan callen
No.
joe rogan
Of course I haven't seen it.
eddie bravo
Have you seen it?
joe rogan
No.
eddie bravo
Oh my god, dude.
Go Henato Laranja Show, Episode 4, Josh Barnett, Henato Laranja, doing a scene from Brokeback Mountain.
It's incredible.
bryan callen
What did I say?
We need to start doing it.
joe rogan
What do we got here?
bryan callen
I said we need to start reenacting.
joe rogan
So the Silva fight was a draw.
But wasn't that fight changed because of the drug thing?
Didn't they disqualify?
brendan schaub
It was a draw, so there's no winner though.
joe rogan
But it was a draw anyway, right?
brendan schaub
He got Bigfoot's money and bonus money for the fight of the night.
joe rogan
So he lost Junior Santos.
Before that, he beat Stefan Struve, Chet Congo, Ben Rothwell, and Tuckshire.
So McCorkle was the loss, and then he won four in a row, and then he fought Dos Santos, and then he had the war with Bigfoot.
eddie bravo
But he lost a whole shitload right there.
brendan schaub
He did lose one, two, three, four, five.
He lost six in a row.
joe rogan
Dude, he got submitted by Musashi.
unidentified
Look at the guys he was fighting.
eddie bravo
Alex in a row.
Josh Barnett beat him.
joe rogan
Fedor was an interesting fight, man.
Remember when he had Fedor in an armlock?
Remember that?
eddie bravo
I forget.
joe rogan
Yeah, he hit him like a Kimura, but he couldn't finish it.
Those are some monster opponents.
brendan schaub
Those early days, though, he was a pure striker.
No nothing, you know?
joe rogan
He didn't know what he was doing.
He was learning.
But he beat Marco Krokop in pride.
brendan schaub
In his prime, too.
joe rogan
And he beat Vandele Silva.
You know, a lot of people think he was the guy that ruined Vandele.
Because Vandele fought him as a heavyweight.
And Vandele was the 203-pound champion.
He was fucking everybody up at 203. And went up and fought.
And he actually, I believe, if I remember correctly, he was light when he fought Hunt.
I think he was only like 199. And he fought Hunt.
unidentified
That's crazy.
Crazy.
joe rogan
It was like light for him.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like when he fought Krokop, he was super heavy.
He was like, he was heavier than Krokop.
If I remember correctly, Vanderlei was like 218 and Krokop was 214. Wow.
bryan callen
Vanderlei was just a- You said that Krokop was the strongest guy you ever felt, right?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
bryan callen
What did he weigh when you fought him?
brendan schaub
221 or something like that.
unidentified
Maybe 220. And at that weight, did he feel stronger than you were?
brendan schaub
Just like so like a rock.
He couldn't move.
You know how some guys you move and they kind of budge?
It's like a statue.
joe rogan
The legs?
That guy has giant legs.
brendan schaub
He has a good base.
I just think he was like, there was no fat on him.
Just like that grown man strength when I fought him, you know?
joe rogan
You know, you're talking about a guy who's been kickboxing for so fucking long.
I would imagine that a guy who's a really strong kickboxer, like a Hunt, or like a Crow Cop, those guys that develop those monster-ass legs, and they have good balance from throwing kicks, once you teach those guys to take down defense, it becomes very difficult.
Because they're dealing with such a ridiculous base.
Crow Cop has some giant ass fucking legs, man.
brendan schaub
Huge legs.
joe rogan
You want to talk about a guy with a ridiculous highlight reel?
bryan callen
Stud.
I'm so tired.
unidentified
Brian looks exhausted.
joe rogan
Why are you so tired?
bryan callen
I just had such a long day.
joe rogan
Aw, poor baby.
bryan callen
I was shooting the Goldbergs.
I'm so cute.
joe rogan
Did you shoot it today?
Yeah.
unidentified
Such a fun part.
joe rogan
Do you like sucking the dick of television still?
Do you like playing with television's balls?
bryan callen
I like that show.
I have to say I really like that show.
joe rogan
What network is it for?
bryan callen
ABC. I play the gym teacher from the 80s.
Oh my god.
joe rogan
Oh, I can imagine.
bryan callen
It's so funny.
I drank this protein shake.
I had to drink...
It's actually one of the best things I've ever done.
joe rogan
Oh, that's hilarious.
eddie bravo
What's the name of the show?
bryan callen
The Goldbergs.
It's such a funny...
eddie bravo
Jeff Garland.
It's a sitcom?
bryan callen
Wendy McClendon, who is in Bridesmaids.
It's a really funny show.
joe rogan
I heard Bridesmaids is a funny fucking movie.
eddie bravo
So you're a part of the show?
unidentified
Fuck yeah.
joe rogan
Is it really funny?
brendan schaub
Great movie.
eddie bravo
Dude.
joe rogan
Have you ever seen it, Eddie?
eddie bravo
It's on YouTube?
brendan schaub
It's a fucking American classic.
unidentified
What's it called?
bryan callen
It's called The Goldbergs.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
You ever see Bridesmaids?
eddie bravo
No.
joe rogan
Never saw it?
It's supposed to be really funny.
bryan callen
It's a pretty funny movie.
brendan schaub
It's an amazing movie.
joe rogan
Dana White tells me it's really funny.
brendan schaub
Dude, it's a classic.
It's an American classic.
eddie bravo
It's funny.
brendan schaub
You know who else hasn't seen Bridesmaids?
Al-Qaeda.
ISIS. Fucking see Bridesmaids, man.
See Bridesmaids.
unidentified
If you're an American, go see fucking Bridesmaids.
joe rogan
Is that new?
Is it new?
unidentified
No!
Not at all!
brendan schaub
It's been about three years!
bryan callen
Hey bro!
You live in America?
Bridesmaids was a huge hit!
unidentified
Real quick, you a terrorist?
brendan schaub
Huge hit!
joe rogan
Are you a terrorist?
bryan callen
It's actually a really good movie.
I like The Winter Soldier, Captain America.
I saw it recently.
joe rogan
You know the last funny movie that I saw was?
Was this at the end?
That's a funny movie.
Fucking hilarious.
Seth Rogen.
What's the dude from Eastbound and Down?
brendan schaub
Dan McBride is great.
joe rogan
How fucking funny is he in that movie?
bryan callen
That's his character, dude.
eddie bravo
Have you seen Eastbound and Down?
unidentified
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
eddie bravo
It's amazing.
He's awesome.
joe rogan
I love that dude.
brendan schaub
He's drinking and eating all this shit.
joe rogan
He fucking pours on the water.
I don't want to give up.
Spoiler alert.
It's been out for six years.
brendan schaub
Fucking spoiler alert.
joe rogan
Spoiler alert.
bryan callen
Spoiler alert.
It's a million o'clock.
Nobody's out.
joe rogan
People get mad at me for fucking spoilers for fights that happened like the day before.
I'll say, oh, I just finally got around to watching Blank Fight.
Wow, what a fucking huge win from Blank.
They go, fucking spoiler alert.
You're online, shithead!
You're online, you're reading a Twitter feed of a fucking MMA commentator for the UFC. What did you think was coming your way, stupid?
You looking for flower arrangement tips?
What do you think I'm going to talk about?
Why are you on my fucking Twitter feed?
unidentified
Do you go on MMA Weekly's Twitter feed, too, and go, whoa, spoiler alert!
joe rogan
You're a fucking news site, stupid!
brendan schaub
You know what has to hurt people's feelings when I see you talk shit to 120?
You go, dummy.
That hurts my feelings a lot.
bryan callen
That's something you and I talked about a long time ago.
Remember, sometimes when you call somebody a simple name, I almost cut this guy off.
Remember that guy who was this huge guy looking at me.
And I pull up next to him, and he goes, you got a fucking problem?
And he was this really big, giant guy, fat, really big.
And I looked at him, and I go, what?
And he goes, you got a fucking problem, man?
And I go...
You're fat.
And he goes, and I just drove away.
Like, little insults like that.
You're dumb or you're fat are powerful.
joe rogan
I would just start laughing.
If I pulled up to someone and said, hey, man, you got a fucking problem, he goes, you're fat.
I'd be like, oh, you fuck.
unidentified
But it would hurt my feelings if they're like, you're a fucking dummy.
bryan callen
I'd be like, damn, bro.
joe rogan
You dummy.
Some people are dummies, man.
Some people are dummies.
I did that to a girl's talking in a show, a heckler.
bryan callen
You went, no, no, no, no, no!
You're dumb!
joe rogan
I've had a show of that more than once.
I'm not sure which event you're talking about.
eddie bravo
That's perfect.
You're dumb!
bryan callen
You're dumb!
joe rogan
You know, that was a real problem with fucking doing stand-up at that comedy store.
Nobody does the crowd.
Nobody takes care of the crowd.
Comics shouldn't have to deal with that shit.
That shit should all be done by bouncers.
Any improv you go to, that never gets out of hand.
They squash that shit like that.
They know what they're doing.
bryan callen
I think I can tell the story.
What happened tonight?
joe rogan
Tonight?
bryan callen
What happened?
I was at the lab factory and there was a dude in the front row talking like an asshole.
And to the point where I kicked his leg a little bit, I went, hey, you got to shut up in the middle of my set.
I go, hey, you got to shut up.
And he goes, oh, sorry, sorry.
And then he kept talking.
I went through my set.
It was fine.
It went well.
And Dane Cook follows me.
And I'm watching Dane.
And the guy is doing the same thing.
And Dane literally, literally in the middle of it went like this.
And tweet if I'm exaggerating.
Dane goes, you shut the fuck up right fucking now or I will knock you the fuck out.
You say one more fucking word, I'm going to knock you out and send you the fuck out of here.
brendan schaub
Sounds like Dan Cook's been doing some Taibo or some shit.
bryan callen
The fucking show, you asshole!
And the whole place started clapping.
brendan schaub
How great would it be if the guy stood up and whooped Dane Cook's ass?
unidentified
Right!
bryan callen
I was like, I was like, Dane!
brendan schaub
In front of everyone.
bryan callen
But Dane was ready to go.
joe rogan
That guy was a plant put by Jamie Mossad.
He's like, buddy, Dane Cook is going to be on.
I want you to warm up with Brian Callen.
You go, you tell a joke, you talk to girl, you speak on phone.
And then when Dane Cook come on, he be so mad.
He's like, this fucking guy heckled me, I'm Dane Cook.
And then we get on TMZ. I have ten guys in the audience uploading it to YouTube.
bryan callen
I'm sure somebody videotaped it.
brendan schaub
Brian, do me a favor.
Tell them the dream you had that you told me.
joe rogan
Tell them the dream.
brendan schaub
You tell me if this is normal.
bryan callen
I think it's appropriate.
joe rogan
Okay.
brendan schaub
This is my business partner.
Listen to this shit.
bryan callen
I had a dream.
I had a boyfriend.
joe rogan
Okay, that's not Martin Luther King.
Martin Luther King had a totally different dream.
bryan callen
I had a dream!
brendan schaub
It started, Sibir.
bryan callen
I had a dream!
brendan schaub
And what were you doing, Brad?
bryan callen
I had a boyfriend.
brendan schaub
No, listen to this shit.
bryan callen
And he fucked me.
brendan schaub
He had a dream he was having sex with a man.
joe rogan
Well, I'm glad you told me this after I told Steve Rinella that I don't want to share a tent with you.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
Because he asked me, he goes, is it okay if you share a tale with Brian?
Fuck yeah, I do.
I snore like a werewolf, dude.
brendan schaub
You look like a snorer.
joe rogan
I'm a snorer, bro.
bryan callen
Dude, you don't even know.
joe rogan
I have an irregular neck.
bryan callen
It's the craziest, loudest snorer.
I thought you handled that, though.
joe rogan
Didn't you handle it with the mouthpiece?
I have a new mouthpiece.
I have a new mouthpiece since the last time we went hunting.
Well, I got one about seven, eight months ago.
eddie bravo
This is like the third or fourth version.
bryan callen
Bro, I think I had sleep apnea because I wake up.
joe rogan
It wasn't fitting right, man.
It kept falling off.
eddie bravo
The last one.
joe rogan
Yeah, it kept falling out.
But the new one, it's uncomfortable, but it fits great, and it keeps my tongue in place, makes no sound.
I sleep like a baby, I make no sound.
brendan schaub
Finish your gay story, though.
I want other people to judge you.
joe rogan
I'm sorry.
bryan callen
I was talking about snoring.
Dude, it was so vivid, and I was like, I'm straight, man, and I have a boyfriend, and this guy keeps fucking me, and this is bad.
And I was like, in my dream, I was like, I'm straight as shit, and this guy's fucking me, and I gotta keep this a secret.
I'm not sure how to make sense of this.
eddie bravo
That's a bit.
unidentified
Is that a bit?
bryan callen
No, it's not a bit.
eddie bravo
He needs it to be.
unidentified
He was dead serious when he told me this, and I literally was just looking at him like this.
joe rogan
Bro, this is your next hour.
It's gonna start with this.
bryan callen
Write it down.
joe rogan
Write it down right now.
eddie bravo
The possibilities are endless with this dream.
unidentified
Is that not weird?
eddie bravo
This dream could go wherever.
joe rogan
Have you ever had a dream like that?
No.
unidentified
Never.
brendan schaub
Ever in my life.
bryan callen
Dude, I was like, and I was like, and the guy had a big back.
But I believe him.
He had a back on him.
And I was like, damn, man.
And I remember.
And, and, I didn't tell you this part.
We were having cocktails.
We were having cocktails.
And I was looking over and I go, I gotta fuck this guy again.
I'm like...
unidentified
And I was like, this is not normal.
bryan callen
I feel like I was sliding down an ice glacier.
unidentified
I gotta fuck this guy again.
bryan callen
Yeah, I gotta fuck this guy again.
eddie bravo
Oh, that's great shit.
bryan callen
It was crazy, bro.
brendan schaub
What else?
unidentified
I'm straight.
bryan callen
Man, I'm fucking straight.
joe rogan
This is disturbing how many jokes you have arguing your sexuality.
I know!
Because a big part of your act is arguing your sexuality.
brendan schaub
I said he's 50% gay and I don't have an issue with it.
unidentified
We got Brody Stevens up to 84%.
joe rogan
He started the podcast and said he was probably 10% gay.
By the end of the podcast, he told me he was 84% gay.
brendan schaub
On our podcast, he said 15%.
After that dream, I said full 50%.
joe rogan
Do you think you're gay?
bryan callen
No.
joe rogan
A little bit?
bryan callen
No, I wish I was.
joe rogan
When we went hunting...
When we went hunting, we were gone for six...
The first time, we were gone for six days in Montana.
The second time, we were gone for five days in Wisconsin.
That's 11 days of gay jokes.
I mean, the kid is relentless.
It never stops coming.
It's a storm of locusts that there's no end.
It shows up on a satellite.
It shows up on a satellite.
It's like swarming across the sea.
Crops die.
bryan callen
Rivers get choked.
joe rogan
The rivers get choked, leaving...
unidentified
There's no water that gets to the farmlands.
joe rogan
Crops dry up.
brendan schaub
There's actually something with that.
bryan callen
You know who is actually more obsessed with male beauty than Brian Count?
joe rogan
Bushahiro Akiyama.
bryan callen
Well, yeah.
I mean, that's my boyfriend.
But Big Brown is...
brendan schaub
Don't try pushing on me.
joe rogan
Yeah, but it's a different thing.
bryan callen
You had dreams.
You're attracted to men.
brendan schaub
You had dreams you had sex with a man.
No one else has that shit here.
joe rogan
That's weird.
Brian, why are you saying that he's attractive to men?
Because you're attracted to men, too.
bryan callen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Are you attractive?
You're attractive, right?
I would imagine you're an attractive guy.
bryan callen
I'm a cutie pie.
joe rogan
You're a beautiful man.
bryan callen
Yeah.
Not bad.
joe rogan
Right now he looks like pure shit.
That's a good move.
brendan schaub
I've never seen you look so tired.
bryan callen
By the way, this is how guys are.
unidentified
I'm exhausted.
bryan callen
Like, Brendan gave me his cold.
I was around his cold, and I had to go perform.
brendan schaub
I was sick as shit for two weeks.
Crazy sick.
bryan callen
I had to perform in San Antonio, and I'm dying.
I'm just slogging through.
And I call him, and I go, bro.
I go, he goes, how you doing?
I go, I'm not doing well, man.
I'm sick.
And I got two shows tonight, and you gave me your cold.
And this is what I hear on the other end of the phone.
I mean, you were dying laughing.
Well, because your guys get it.
You know why?
brendan schaub
Because I got in his fucking...
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't think chicks think that's funny.
eddie bravo
No.
bryan callen
But guys love it.
brendan schaub
I got in his fucking Prius.
I get in there, and he goes, I'm sick as shit.
And he goes, I'm never sick.
Sprays saline solution in his nose.
And he goes, this is why.
Two days later.
unidentified
He kept telling me this.
Two days later, he said, He kept telling me this for weeks.
joe rogan
All I heard from him was, there's a way you never get sick.
I don't get sick anymore.
I spray the saline solution in my nose.
bryan callen
I gargle with it.
brendan schaub
Then he got my cold.
So four days later, I go, yeah, throat's starting to hurt now, moving down your chest.
He goes, yeah.
I said, enjoy that for about another eight days.
I was sick as fuck.
bryan callen
Meanwhile, though, I wasn't sleeping.
That's why.
joe rogan
Well, you would normally, your immune system is so superior to the average male.
bryan callen
That's very true, dude.
Thank you for saying that.
I crush all disease.
joe rogan
Well, you know, he eats a lot of jalapenos.
bryan callen
And I meditate.
joe rogan
He only eats factory farmed fish.
Right.
Nothing from the ocean.
bryan callen
And I'm God's favorite, too.
That helps.
unidentified
Even his Brazilian character is a gay Brazilian character.
joe rogan
Remember that?
Yeah.
eddie bravo
That was one of the greatest impersonations ever.
joe rogan
One of the most hilarious moments of our life.
You've got to write that down.
Take that sheet of paper off the top.
bryan callen
I had a dream that I had a boyfriend, and he was fucking me.
joe rogan
Yeah, just remember that.
bryan callen
Joe Rogan, my snoggerfer, thanks for the idea.
I had a dream I had a boyfriend, and he was fucking me.
joe rogan
The best part is you go, ah, fold that up, put that in your pocket.
brendan schaub
The best part is you go, ah, I gotta fuck this guy later.
bryan callen
I know!
joe rogan
You gotta tell them I'm exhausted.
bryan callen
I gotta get fucked.
joe rogan
You must tell them I'm exhausted.
bryan callen
I gotta fuck this guy.
He had a back.
I remember his back was very wide.
brendan schaub
And he fucks you throughout the dream like constantly.
unidentified
And there's nothing you can do.
eddie bravo
I feel like running and sometimes you do run but you're like in slow motion.
bryan callen
I didn't like it in the dream.
eddie bravo
And then you try to shoot him but the bullet goes really slow.
You ever have a gun and you shoot and the gun falls apart and then the bullet's really slow?
bryan callen
A better example is like, you know when you see a movie that's really scary and you feel that chill up your spine where you're like, fuck, this is scary.
Like you're so uncomfortable and scared.
Sex with the guy felt the same way.
I was like, this fucking sucks.
But gotta do it.
brendan schaub
All of us are dreaming of guns in running.
unidentified
Brian's like, yeah, you have that dream where you're jacking a guy off super slow and it just never ends.
Isn't that weird?
It never ends.
joe rogan
My dreams are always breathing in the water.
eddie bravo
Every now and then throwing that you tried to escape when you had the gun.
bryan callen
I should.
unidentified
I lied.
bryan callen
But you just wanted to add shit.
joe rogan
I tried demons.
I tried to hip escape.
They represented the mistakes of my youth.
eddie bravo
And you're Wherever you guys go, you're in your underwear.
Like, wherever you go, you're in your underwear.
joe rogan
It's freezing cold, you have to huddle.
I hate him, but we had to cuddle to stay alive.
bryan callen
Naked and afraid.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
He kept fucking me.
bryan callen
I'm like, gay as shit, naked and afraid.
joe rogan
I was treating his frostbite while he was fucking me.
unidentified
I was like...
bryan callen
Mosquitoes and hard-ons.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
bryan callen
Fuck, dude.
joe rogan
Listen, we ran out of time.
We're three hours in.
unidentified
Shit.
joe rogan
Powerful Mark Hunt.
Congratulations to Mark Hunt.
bryan callen
Beast!
joe rogan
Yeah, that was fucking phenomenal.
And you know, we kind of saw it materializing, right?
Kind of saw it materializing.
Saw how smooth he was.
bryan callen
Meanwhile, the only guy in this room who has to actually contemplate fighting that guy is Brett Brown.
brendan schaub
This guy.
bryan callen
Not an easy job.
joe rogan
He's probably still mad at you.
brendan schaub
I'm sure if I beat Travis Brown, he could be next.
Let's get through Travis.
bryan callen
That's a crazy job you had, bro.
joe rogan
Indeed.
brendan schaub
So you want to be a fighter, huh?
joe rogan
There's only a couple more minutes to go, but if you had to think of like this Travis Brown situation where he leaves Jackson's and now he's training with Edmund, is that a good thing?
Or do you think that that shows any sign of like, you know, sometimes people are in a state of turmoil.
You know, they feel like they need to change.
They lose a little bit of confidence, and they try to switch things up.
Is it good to switch things up?
brendan schaub
It can be good.
Listen, I moved to L.A. and switched things up.
Obviously, I know Rhonda very well, and I know that camp pretty well, I would say.
And I'm not going to go into detail, but I think it's a great thing for me that he's training there.
I'll put it like that, without going into detail.
eddie bravo
What did you just say?
joe rogan
Oh, shit.
eddie bravo
It's a good thing for you or a good thing for him?
It's a good thing for you.
joe rogan
Good thing for him.
brendan schaub
It's a good thing for me.
joe rogan
That's what he said.
unidentified
Whoa.
joe rogan
He would say that, though, even if he didn't even mean it.
brendan schaub
No, I promise I would.
I just wouldn't say shit.
joe rogan
Right.
brendan schaub
I'm 100% dead serious with you.
I have no reason.
eddie bravo
You think you made a mistake by going to that team?
unidentified
100%.
joe rogan
Whoa.
What if he hears this and changes his mind?
brendan schaub
Don't give a fuck.
joe rogan
Wow.
eddie bravo
So do you think...
bryan callen
I'm not worried about him.
brendan schaub
I'm not worried about him, yeah.
It's more about me, man.
eddie bravo
Did you used to train there?
brendan schaub
Where?
No.
eddie bravo
Where he's training.
You never trained with what he's doing?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Never trained with Edmund, but you did do some training at Jackson's.
eddie bravo
Oh, because you might have someone telling you how they're training because you know people have connections.
brendan schaub
No, not at all.
eddie bravo
Is that what you mean?
brendan schaub
Nope, not even close.
I would never do that.
joe rogan
So you know what the training is like at Jackson's.
You know, it's pretty high-level training.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
And he decided to leave that.
brendan schaub
Yeah, Jackson's has training partners for days.
joe rogan
Can I just speculate?
Can I just speculate?
Do you think there was any issue with the fact that Overeem came into the camp?
brendan schaub
No.
Not at all.
unidentified
Not at all?
brendan schaub
Not at all.
Because Travis beat him, we'll never fight him again.
I don't think that had anything to do with it.
joe rogan
He could easily fight him again, though.
That could happen.
unidentified
Nah.
joe rogan
You don't think so?
brendan schaub
No, never.
joe rogan
They would never do that.
brendan schaub
Rank number three, let's say...
Yeah, no.
Listen, there's a chance.
Yes, rankings don't mean shit.
But the chance of them fighting again, them doing rematches, are not good unless you're at a very high level.
joe rogan
Alright, here's my opinion.
I completely disagree.
One of the reasons I completely disagree is the depth of the heavyweight division.
The depth of the heavyweight division is not that broad.
There's not that many people.
brendan schaub
Well, he trains with Andre Orlovsky.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's true.
brendan schaub
So you think he was just like, fuck it, I'm out of here.
joe rogan
But look, because Arlovsky stays and Arlovsky's fighting Overeem, or Arlovsky and Overeem are in the same camp, just because they're both heavyweights, it doesn't mean that Travis Brown agrees with that.
So Travis Brown could have been in a situation where he felt like he was one of the top heavyweights in camp, he beat Overeem, then all of a sudden Overeem moves in.
And then on top of that, he loses the fight with Verdum.
He doesn't like how he felt in that fight, feels like he needs to add some things to his game.
And one of the things that he said, he said he didn't know how to fight.
He said he knew how to go out there and fuck guys up, but he didn't know how to fight, like the technical aspects of fighting.
Which is kind of, you know, it's interesting saying that when he's like, you're dealing with Mike Winklejohn, you know, he's like an outstanding striking coach, like one of the best in the world.
Winklejohn, I've seen Winklejohn coach guys.
brendan schaub
He's a monster, yes.
joe rogan
He's a wizard.
So Travis is working with him, and then he goes from that saying that he really didn't know how to fight.
And Edmund is teaching him how to fight.
I mean, it's interesting.
eddie bravo
Well, look what Edwin's done for Ronda.
She wasn't that good of a striker in the beginning.
And all of a sudden, all of a sudden, Ronda can...
It took her a while, because I was even doubting.
I was even thinking, damn, is she ever going to be a serious threat on her feet?
She's becoming a serious threat.
And at the rate she's going, another couple years, two or three years, Ronda might just stay standing for a while, longer, you know?
joe rogan
That's that Chuck Liddell type thing, you know?
If you can't take her down, what the fuck are you going to do if she can knock you out in the feet?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
When Ronda blasted Sarah McMahon with that knee to the body, that was a big fucking message.
You know, that was a big message.
unidentified
Sarah McMahon.
brendan schaub
Last time we were here, you said you didn't feel that Ronda Cyborg was a good...
Like, you weren't happy about that potential matchup.
Yeah.
eddie bravo
Have you changed since then?
Because...
brendan schaub
I just don't think it would be good for the UFC with Cyborg's history with steroids and Ronda being very pretty and being in movies.
It's not going to be good if she were to lose to Cyborg.
That's all I'm saying.
I think Cyborg's a great fighter.
I don't think as a marketing standpoint and for the future of the UFC, Cyborg as your champ is a good thing.
joe rogan
Do you think that she should be out forever?
Because of the fact that she did that?
unidentified
No.
brendan schaub
I don't think she should be out forever.
joe rogan
She keeps winning.
She keeps winning.
brendan schaub
Yeah, give her a shot.
joe rogan
Ultimately, she's got to have a shot at the title.
brendan schaub
Listen, everyone.
Thiago Silva almost got a fucking shot.
unidentified
She's zeroed in.
I think she should be all right.
eddie bravo
Cyborg is zeroed in on Ronda.
That's all she's thinking about.
brendan schaub
Well, why wouldn't she?
Yeah, what else?
joe rogan
Every girl.
That's where the money is.
brendan schaub
But every girl is.
eddie bravo
It almost seems like it's inevitable.
Come on.
unidentified
Carano, they're like, hey, you want to be relevant again?
brendan schaub
Why don't we bring you back?
You tap out in like a minute or so, and we'll do all this marketing, and then you get out.
Everyone wants to fight Ronda.
They know they're not going to win.
The marketing they get from it is insane.
eddie bravo
But the fight that most MMA fans want to see from Ronda.
brendan schaub
MMA, not mainstream.
unidentified
But it would be beautiful.
eddie bravo
Mainstream, all the regular girls, they'd be probably behind Ronda because Cyborg's...
Yeah, everyone would be behind Ronda because Cyborg.
She had some steroid abuse before and all that stuff.
But still, that's what makes it an amazing fight is you have a chick who's super yoked, crazy-looking.
Cyborg is the perfect nickname for her against Ronda, the pretty judo girl.
I think that is going to be the fight of the millennium.
joe rogan
Cyborg, she's not built like that anymore.
She doesn't look like that anymore.
She looks like a strong woman now.
She just does not look like she used to look.
eddie bravo
Yeah, well, still.
joe rogan
Have you seen the difference?
eddie bravo
As far as women's MMA, that is probably the biggest money fight right there.
Money-wise, that would be huge money-wise.
joe rogan
Gina Carano would be bigger.
unidentified
I don't think so.
joe rogan
I think Gina Carano would be bigger.
brendan schaub
Because the mainstream knows Gina.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
The mainstream doesn't know Cyborg at all.
They see Cyborg and they're like, oh, I don't want to see this.
One countdown and it's over.
eddie bravo
One countdown and that's over.
unidentified
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Well, I think it's totally sellable.
It's a terrifying fight.
I think it's completely sellable.
Not only do I think it's sellable, I think if she keeps winning, it's a must-have fight.
I mean, I don't know if it's ever going to take place, but if Cyborg, if you go back and watch the fucking video of her beating up Gina Carano, beating up a lot of other women.
unidentified
That was tough to watch.
brendan schaub
When she fought Gina, you're like, what are we doing?
unidentified
Yep.
brendan schaub
It's like Bully Beatdown.
joe rogan
You know what I'm saying?
It's rough to watch, bro.
unidentified
It's rough to watch.
joe rogan
It's rough to watch.
brendan schaub
You're like, what are we doing?
You want to be your champ?
You think that inspires other little girls when they see Bully Beatdown style?
Cyborg vs.
unidentified
Gina?
eddie bravo
If you're looking at it as a promoter's point of view, yes.
brendan schaub
Real quick, that's all Dana looks at.
That's all Dana looks at.
eddie bravo
But as far as the fans go, I think Cyborg is going to be the biggest MMA fight of all time.
joe rogan
No.
We're out of time.
We're turning to a pumpkin.
It's three hours in.
Ustream's going to cut off.
Thanks, everybody.
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bryan callen
Come see me on Sunday.
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joe rogan
We'll see you soon.
Much love, everybody.
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brendan schaub
Just find her in the kids, son!
joe rogan
Find her in the kids podcast, Eddie Bravo radio podcast.
eddie bravo
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