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July 8, 2014 - The Joe Rogan Experience

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Joe Rogan Experience #520 - David Seaman

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joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And we're back, ladies and gentlemen.
		Two in a day.
		That's how we roll.
		And this episode is brought to you by LegalZoom.
		If you go to LegalZoom, you, my friend, you, fellow Americans, just got done celebrating Independence Day, feeling all star stripey bannery.
		What is America about, folks?
		It's about fucking innovation and shit, coming up with your own thing, getting your freak on, getting it together, planning for the future.
		I don't know if it's about that.
		It's kind of just about living in America, right?
		All that other stuff sounds good, though.
		It's motivational speaking.
		It's like, you're a fucking Titan.
unidentified		And if you go to this school and you're a Titan, you'll behave like a Titan.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, one of the best things that you could do for your own personal sense of satisfaction or growth or just independence is to be a person who has their own business.
		If you've ever thought about doing that, you can do that.
		You can start a corporation.
		You do all the necessary legal steps online using LegalZoom quite easily.
		If you have some sort of an invention that you want a patent that you want to lock down, if you have some sort of a thing that you want to have become your business, LegalZoom can help you with that.
		They can set it all up and they can do it for less than, well, I think the lowest for setting an LLC is as little as $99.
		You can get a will.
		You could set up, you could even get divorced if you're married to someone.
unidentified		Cool.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Look at that.
		$99 to form an LLC.
		It starts at $99.
		No waiting in line.
		Everything done naked.
		Everything done drunk as fuck.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		He looks happy with it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That guy's happy as fuck with everything but his haircut.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		His hair.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		His hair is strange.
		He's a strange guy.
		But hey, I don't have any hair, so who am I talking shit?
		Anyway, for a long time, LegalZoom has been doing, helping Americans get personalized wills, powers of attorney, living trusts, and they help to protect your assets.
		S corporations, LLCs, trademarks, real estate documents, and more.
		And all of it can be done online.
		I love doing things online.
		I do almost all my shopping online.
		It's so much easier than having to go somewhere, especially when you're dealing with legal stuff.
		Because in any normal situation, you would have to set an appointment.
		It would have to be from 9 to 5 every day.
		You'd have to take off work or do something where you have to figure out how to get to that office on your lunch break.
		There's got to be a way you can figure out how to do all this online.
		Well, now finally there is.
		You don't have to be there physically in person.
		Most of this stuff that people, you know, most of the legal shit that you have to deal with can all be taken care of like this.
		This is the future.
		This is where our world is coming to.
		And so you can go to LegalZoom and they can take care of you from start to finish.
		It's the modern way to get legal help.
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		Protect your family, protect your future at legalzoom.com.
		That's all they wrote that shit.
		LegalZoom was developed by top attorneys to provide self-help services at your specific direction, but they are not a law firm.
		And they also can connect you with a third-party attorney if all the shit goes haywire.
		They can hook you up.
		So go to legalzoom.com and make sure you enter the word Rogan in the checkout box.
		We're also brought to you by Nature Box.
		NatureBox, which we can't even keep in here because of you hungry savages.
		People in this room are hungry little savages trying to steal my sriracha cashews.
		I'm not happy with that, man.
		I'm not happy with you guys always getting the good shit.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		I get my own box now.
		I added three more items, which is like eight items or so.
		And I still, with one other person, went through it like in four days.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, dude, you can eat.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You put in some food.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		Well, those packages, like if you're sitting there watching a movie, you're just snacking.
		You're crazy.
		And next thing you know.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They're good.
		They're good.
		And as far as like normal snack food, it's going to be very hard to find things that are as nutritious and delicious.
		Like legitimately healthy for you.
		Like those sriracha cashews, those are delicious.
		And you don't have to feel bad about eating them.
		I mean, yeah, they have calories, but you know, cashews are pretty fucking good for you.
		It's cashews with spices on it.
		That's it.
		And nature has all sorts, nature box rather, has all sorts of options that you can choose from.
		All the different snacks that they have are delicious.
		I've had a bunch of different ones, and they vary nutritionally from like really healthy, low sugar, gluten-free.
		They have a lot of options that if you're into like paleo and things along those lines, they have a lot of options that fit into those diets, especially like gluten-free, low-sugar.
		Or they've even there's certain stuff like pretzels and things along those lines that no matter what, they're not really that healthy.
		But they're a lot better than the shit that you normally would get in your vending machine.
		And they're delicious.
		Some of the stuff, I'm so addicted to these big apple pineapples.
		I don't know how they make those.
		Those are yummy.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		I think they have to be smaller because if you look at how they're cut, it's not a huge pineapple.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		So maybe it's sweeter because they're smaller.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't know, maybe.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		And they're good.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's good.
		But I think the smaller is because it shrinks through the dehydration process.
		But I don't know.
		I'm making shit up.
		Dark cocoa almonds are also the bomb diggity.
		They have a lot of great stuff there at Nature Box.
		Very, very happy with them.
		And everybody is here too.
		Like I said, we devour this shit quick.
		I'm going to have to start ordering two boxes a week.
		We leave them around here.
		They're gone.
		But what I like about it, zero trans fats, zero high fructose corn syrup, which are two things that are really troublesome in most American diets.
		These are all natural.
		You're going to find no artificial sweeteners, no bullshit, no GMO.
		They'll have plenty of them that are low on sugar or non-GMO.
		They're with or without gluten, and they ship for free.
		That's what the beautiful thing is.
		Peanut butter nom noms are also a good one.
		Go to naturebox.com right now and you will get 50% off your month's first box.
		That's naturebox.com slash Rogan.
		That's where you want to go.
		Naturebox.com slash Rogan for 50% off your month's first box.
		But try the dark cocoa almonds, kid.
		They're very yum yum.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		The lemon pucker pistachios are really good.
		And also the sunflower seeds, all the different ones they have.
		I highly recommend, though, just going crazy and it's like $3 extra per snack a month.
		I got an extra three.
		I wish I got an extra 10 because you'll just fall in love with all these snacks.
		I promise you.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They're doing a good job.
		I like what they're doing.
		Their stuff's yummy.
		I haven't found one thing that's not yummy.
		I like when you can consistently count on something.
		And again, you're not going to feel guilty about it.
		You can get some pretty nutritious stuff from them.
		So go.
		Go to naturebox.com slash Rogan and enjoy.
		That's my new song I wrote for them.
		You hear how beautiful my voice is?
unidentified		Copyright.
unidentified		It's like that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's from Angels.
		Bro, it's like from Angels.
		We're also brought to you by Onit.com.
		That is O-N-N-I-T.
		We are a human optimization website, and we sell you all the tools you need to get your shit in gear, whether it's get your strength on with some kettlebells.
		We have primal bells, which are artistically made kettlebells that look like gorillas and apes and orangutans.
		And we have zombie kettlebells where you can prepare yourself for the upcoming apocalypse because Jenny McCarthy doesn't want anybody getting any vaccines.
		So shit goes haywire and there's some fucking crazy maximum.
unidentified		Vaxers, right?
unidentified		Are they called vaxxers?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Vaxxers, yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And anti-vaxxers.
unidentified		Anti-vaxers.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Anti-vax, the anti-vax folks.
		We sell all sorts of shit to prepare yourself physically and mentally.
		What does it mean?
		It means like we sell you exercise equipment that has been shown to develop what they call functional strength, meaning strength that you can apply very directly to athletics.
		Strength that you can apply directly to martial arts, especially primal bells, the kettlebells, the playing kettlebells, any of the things in those design done with good form, and that is a key part, is done with good form, will noticeably increase your functional strength.
		Just your ability to do shit like pick up a chair and move it around your apartment.
		You can do that better if you're stronger.
		It's better to have a body that works well.
		And the kettlebell packages that we provide, they're numerous, all sorts of different sizes.
		We'll sell you two and three different sizes and weights.
		And we also have great exercise videos.
		The fitness DVDs, especially my favorites, the Keith Weber Cardio Kettlebell Workout.
		I was talking about this long before we were ever selling this.
		The Extreme Kettlebell Cardio Workout.
		We have, I think the first one's sold out.
		They sell like crazy.
		This dude's a bad motherfucker.
		This Keith Weber guy.
		He goes on a beach and he starts slinging kettlebells and you just try to keep up with him.
		He counts every down, shows you the exercise, counts you down, and then you try to keep up.
		And this dude's an animal.
		It's a fucking fantastic workout.
		It's my all-time favorite.
		It says, if you go there, it says powerful, like it says, with my name.
		Like that's my quote.
		It is powerful.
unidentified		That's cool.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That fucking thing is spectacular.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He's a bad motherfucker, that Keith Weber.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		How long does it take to look like him?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Years.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Years.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Steroids, growth hormone, green juice.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		So I can just buy the DVD and pop it in.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You're going to have to starve yourself, dehydrate.
		That guy's probably got great genetics, in all seriousness.
		He probably has great genetics on top of it, but he's obviously shredded.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		I like how workout videos all have different backgrounds because I've been watching my girlfriend do a lot of them lately.
		And like, you know, you have the abandoned gym.
		You'll have the outdoor ones on the beach.
		They should just have one in the middle of a McDonald's.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That would be good.
		That's a good move, dude.
		Or like a food court.
unidentified		What the fuck?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like a food court.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, food court.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		All around you.
unidentified		It's fizzler with old people everywhere, just watching Walmart.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I like the idea of a, like, you could never get it in a McDonald's.
		They would never allow you to.
		But a food court, you might be able to actually pull off.
		If you blurt out all the different labels, you might be able to do that.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, make it like in some, you know, Texas or something like that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Arizona, like Tucson or something.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		Hawaii.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Hot as fuck.
		Everybody's angry.
		What the fuck are you doing, man?
		Jumping rope on stage in front of my cheeseburger, you fuck.
		That's rude.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		A truck stop would be good, too.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Especially if the guy's in really good shape.
		That's fucking rude.
		I'm trying to enjoy this Chinese chicken salad, you know?
		And you're jumping around in front of me like an asshole with your all six-packy and shit.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's true, right?
		You couldn't do that.
		There'd have to be paid actors.
		Otherwise, you'd be an asshole.
		Otherwise, well, I'm going to watch a video of how an asshole works out.
unidentified		Look at me, I'm skinny.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Enjoy your pizza.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		I can see it taking off.
		It's like that guy in Miami, the Russian guy who gets in people's faces.
		You know, like, do you even lift, bro?
		That guy.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No, I don't know who that is.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		You don't know who that is?
		He does this thing where he goes up to guys who are just obviously very jacked.
		He's like, bro, do you even lift?
		And just does that to like 20 of them.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Do you know what the name of them are?
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Somebody, I guarantee you somebody will know who the fuck I'm talking about.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		He's like Vitaly or something like that, but he's this big on YouTube.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And we'll start off the podcast with that guy.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		He's great.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		We'll start off the podcast with one of his because that sounds awesome.
		Anyway, go to onit.com.
		That is O-N-N-I-T.
		Use the code word Rogan and you can save 10% off any and all supplements.
		If you're thinking about trying kettlebells or any exercise routine, and this is not a legal disclaimer, this is just me as a friend to you.
		Say, please don't be a meathead.
		Please start slow.
		Please learn the proper form.
		If you can, if you can afford it, please hire a personal trainer and see if he'll let you videotape you doing it to make sure you get the idea that you're doing right.
		You can do certain exercises by yourself in front of a mirror as long as you have proper form, but proper form is critical to avoid injuries, like back injuries, especially.
		You could tweak yourself.
		So please build your body up first, like slowly.
		Do it the smart.
		If you're not a person that works out on a regular basis, don't go crazy.
		You want a slow build.
		You don't want to break everything down.
		Don't feel like you're being a pussy.
		Like I only worked out 20 minutes today.
		I bet 20 minutes is okay.
		If you're not in good shape and you want to throw some kettlebells Around for 20 minutes, that is it.
		I'll do a 20-minute workout all day.
		I love 20-minute workouts.
		People don't think that's enough.
		You can get a good workout in 20 minutes.
		My point being: if you're a person that doesn't exercise on a regular basis, just slowly get into it.
		Don't kill yourself because that's what people do.
		They get nutty and they say, I'm going to only drink water, no more soda.
		I'm going to fucking run seven miles every morning.
		And in two weeks, you're exhausted.
		You've lost all your momentum.
		You've tried too hard.
		You went crazy.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Not only that, but you overcompensate.
		I'm kind of going through this right now where I've been getting back into yoga now that I have a little bit more stability.
		And it's weird because after a really intense yoga class, I want to go out and drink or do something unhealthy because I feel like I've done something that was a sacrifice.
		You know, you're like, all right, now I can get back to my life.
		But if you feel the sacrifice, then you know you're going to fuck yourself over later on by not going for the next three months or stopping whatever you're doing.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Hmm.
		Yeah, it's also one of those things, too, that like you, I felt great satisfaction when I'm on a run of like working out where I don't have any breaks, but terrible satisfaction if I've slacked off for like two weeks.
		If I go like two weeks without any exercise, I'm like, oh my God, what am I doing?
		Like I'm too busy.
		This is crazy.
		I got to work out.
		I'm going to go fucking bananas here.
		There's a big difference between how I like I feel like very satisfied.
		Like I feel like I'm on a good path when I get a run-in of like six weeks, you know, like six days a week I'm working out.
		Fuck, I feel great.
		I feel like I'm getting shit done.
		But when I don't, I feel like a dummy.
		Point being, ladies and gentlemen, please do this smart.
		Please, if you can, take it slow.
		And make sure you watch your diet too.
		If you're looking for all these fat loss pills like that asshole Dr. Oz just got popped in front of Congress for, listen, folks, there's nothing out there that's going to make you burn fat.
		There's going to be some shit that's going to make you a stimulate.
		It's going to stimulate your heart rate, jack you up.
		But there's really nothing that's been proven that can take a fat person and make them skinny.
		There's some things that can help you burn fat.
		There's things that can help your body metabolize calories more efficiently.
		Enzymes are a big one.
		Having the right stomach bacteria is big too.
		Taking probiotics when at all possible.
		You can do that even like vegan probiotics are actually really good.
		Like kraut, like raw kraut, really good for your stomach.
		All that stuff is so important.
		It's so important to just start doing some research on what you put into your body.
		Lots of green leafy vegetables.
		God damn, that's important.
		I eat a lot of kale and celery and green spinach and I cook it sometimes and I eat it raw sometimes.
		That shit's so important.
		All these different things are important for optimization of your body.
		Get your shit together, you fucks.
		And go to onit.com.
		That's O-N-N-I-T.
		Use the code word Rogan and you can save 10% off any and all supplements.
		Boom.
		Oh, Brian, what's the new address for your store?
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		It's just shopsquad.tv.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, shit, shopsquad.tv.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And if you go to shopsquad.tv, you can get Brian Redband's groovy creations of a Death Squad nature.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and I built it all in Squarespace, one of our other sponsors.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Shit, Squarespace.
		Add it again, you fucking savages.
		Dope t-shirts, all unique and original designs by my little buddy, Brian Redband.
		And all of these available at Shop Squad.
		Shop Squad.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		And also has our live shows, which has, we're having Burt Kreischer at Comic-Con this year.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, glorious.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		Bunch of other guys, but you can get them all at Shop Squad.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		Just hit click live.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and for Brian's Death Squad Podcast Network, that's all available on iTunes.
		You can subscribe to it.
		And of course, he has Kill Tony, which is hilarious.
		Great show.
		I finally got to do that.
		And the new Kill Tony is out right now.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		It's out right now.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Me and Dom Irera.
		And holy shit, was Dom Irera funny.
		Oh, my.
		It was like Domerrera at its best.
		It's like what you get to see.
		Don Myrera, it is snarky, snarky, hilarious, best.
		He's fucking awesome.
		It was really, really fun.
		And some funny comics, too.
		And some ones that were terrible.
		It's great.
		It's perfect.
		It was a perfect evening for Kill Tony.
		Kill Tony's podcast bar pal, Tony Hinchcliffe.
		And the podcast is all Tony and Redband and a couple other comics will sit down and then open micers.
		Maybe some of them that have never done comedy ever.
		They'll go up and they'll do like a minute.
		And it's really fun.
		It's really cool.
		And I think it's the closest thing that Brian does right now that I could see being like a television show.
		In fact, I think you're probably better off because it's so good.
		I think you're probably better off not doing it as a television show, just producing it for an online series sort of thing, and slowly but surely putting some money into it.
		Because I think it's like a show, dude.
		When I sat down in it, you know what I felt like?
		I was like, this could easily be a Comedy Central show.
		Easily.
		It's an easy premise to understand.
		It's great fun.
		You have comics giving advice to some comics and other ones that are just insufferable that you just have to invited me out to one.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		It was really good.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Fun.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So fun.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		I think Tony Hinchcliffe was there and also Princess Shank.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		She was there that week.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Did Tony design this idea?
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we both came up with it.
		He had an idea of it at the beginning and then we just kind of made it more of a show.
		We added things like the bear, the West Hollywood bear, and like the time limits.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		We had the time limits are big.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		The reoccurring females that come every show.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		So yeah, it started off.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, who are the two girls again?
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		Sarah Weinshank and Kimberly Condon.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		These chicks do a new minute every week.
		One new minute every week.
		If you only knew how hard that is for someone who's just started to do comedy and has only been doing comedy while they've been on this show.
		So they've only been doing it for like a year, right?
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we just had our one-year anniversary.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so they've only been doing it for that long.
		And every week they do a new minute that the internet gets to listen to.
		Fucking incredibly courageous.
		Like as far as comedians go, that's incredibly courageous.
		For a pro, like a long-term pro, to commit to a minute every week, that would be hard.
		Like if someone said, hey, you want to do a new minute every week, I'd be like, ooh, did I put online?
		Like sometimes a minute's not ready.
		Like I'll try it.
		I'm like, this fucking joke's not ready.
		Well, guess what?
		I'm sorry.
		It's very unfortunate, but the only way for it to get ready is I have to tell it a bunch of times, and it's got to eat dick.
		It's just got to.
		Sorry if you were there when it ate dick.
		One day it'll be awesome.
		But they don't start out awesome.
		They start out in this weird way and they sort of morph and grow.
		Well, to be able to do that live on the internet in front of you know a live audience and do a new minute every week, those chicks have fucking some serious chutzpah.
unidentified		Yeah.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		It's great.
		And what's really interesting is that the one girl who also is usually on dysentery with me, Sarah Weinshank, and then Kimberly quit college and she was about to graduate and quit college and started comedy on the show.
		So you saw the first set she did all the way up to a year later.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		That's awesome.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and it's neat.
		We've had so much weird drama too.
		We had this guy that dressed up as like an Iron Man, you know, and then he had drama.
		And now we have like a weekly guest.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		I couldn't imagine he would have drama.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		Now we have a weekly guy that dresses up as this guy called the Iron Patriot.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		And we had Jesus on your episode.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Jesus was on my episode.
unidentified		It's beautiful.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He had an interesting Jesus-like quality to him.
		He really did.
		Anyway, go to DeathSquad.tv for all the information on upcoming shows, podcasts, podcasts to download.
		And there's a link there also to Shop Squad.
		So shopsquad.tv.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Shopsquad.tv.
		All right, you fucks.
		Boom, shalock, lock, boom.
		David Seaman's here, and he knows things that you don't.
		And he'll tell you them.
unidentified		The Joe Rogan experience.
		Train my day, Joe Rogan.
		Podcast by night, all day.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Would you consider this?
		Would you consider this that being your opening song?
		David Seaman knows about you don't know.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		I was just thinking that's my new, it's got to be my new voicemail message.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I'm feeling like you could do something with this.
		I feel it's got a good melody to it.
		It's catchy.
		It's very catchy.
		David Seaman knows what you don't know.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		And then maybe a chorus repeats it a couple times.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Doug Sandho has a great joke.
		You ever seen that joke that he does about how lazy songwriting is?
		He tells the same punchline over and over and over again.
		He keeps doing it and everybody gets uncomfortable.
		And he goes, that's, you see how fucking easy it is to write a song.
		You see how lazy songwriters are.
		It's really funny, too, because you don't know what he's doing until he's doing it.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He's fucking awesome.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That was off his last special.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Doug's hilarious.
unidentified		He's my favorite.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		You see somebody like Adam Levine or I'm only thinking of that because he was in a movie recently.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You only think about that because he's beautiful.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		He locked down the voice and now he could say anything and people would be like, yeah.
		You know, like, I'll buy that for 99 cents.
		Somebody out there would, not necessarily me.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Isn't it interesting that he sells Acne stuff even though he's on the voice?
		Like he's on this big show, but he's doing an infomercial.
		It's a contrast because usually someone has to be like sort of sliding when they pick up like a proactive or something type of commercial, right?
unidentified		But isn't it usually like someone who's not like people who are no longer in the prime?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and there's like there's a Shannon Doherty commercial for like some online course or something like that, online university course or something.
		I forget what it is, but it's her wearing a bunch of different outfits.
		And it's like, you know that she probably needed money and this is something that came along.
		But that guy's like hugely famous.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		They probably gave him so much money that he's like, fuck, I don't, you know, an afternoon, $3 million, whatever.
		Like if you look at Alec Baldwin, he has enough money, right?
		And he does the Capital One shit constantly.
		Yeah, that's pretty shilly.
		That seems like kind of embarrassing for somebody that famous to do, but they must have just given him a shitload of money and it's a good card.
		And he's like, well, I'll do it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I wonder if that's worth it.
		How many people do you think saw Alec Baldwin and go, you know what?
		That motherfucker's my banker.
		I got to go to his bank.
		How many people did that?
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		I just talked about it, though.
		So, I mean, it gets ahead.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You wouldn't do it, right?
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Would I do what?
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Would I sign up because of that?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		If you had no bank and you said, I got to get a bank.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		I wouldn't choose it because of that, no.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Of course not.
		Right?
		Who would?
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		But it might slide the balance.
unidentified		If I was already thinking, should I go with Capital One or somebody else?
		I might go, well, I liked Alec Baldwin 20 years ago in Red October.
		I don't know.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He's been good in a bunch of movies, right?
		Fucking Glenn Gary Gunn Ross.
		He knocks it out of the park.
		I hate when anybody tells me that was over the top.
		Oh, so over the top.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		That scene with the watch and the whole thing.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Coffee's for closers.
		That was a fucking great scene.
		Yeah, he's a dick.
		That was his character.
		Fuck.
		People get weird with him because he's so goofy in real life.
		You know, he does so much goofy shit in real life that people don't respect his acting.
		That dude can act his dick off.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		He really can.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Fuck yeah, he can.
		That Glengarry Glenn Ross scene is fucking fantastic.
		He's a vicious, fucking cold, hard capitalist.
		And he's like, this is the army, you pussies.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		You don't get the Glen Gary-Glenn Ross leads.
		What did they say?
		Only closers get those leads.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
		That's a great fucking scene.
		That poor guy's always duking it out, though, with somebody.
		It's like a flight attendant, and recently the cops arrested him for riding his bike the wrong way.
		He's going like the wrong way on the street.
		Like, you can't ride your bike there.
		You're like, boom.
		Shut up.
		They cuff him.
		New York cops, they're happier to cuff you if you're a fucking actor.
		They're happy to cuff you.
		Oh, we cuffed Alec Baldwin today.
		He was awesome.
		He smelled like liquor.
		Riding his bike drunk, going down the wrong way.
		That guy's always in some sort of a dispute with someone.
		But the fun, interesting people are, you know?
		I mean, Mel Gibson, you tell me Mel Gibson did become more interesting to you after you heard him scream at his girlfriend.
		You should shut up and blow me.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		One of his last movies is actually pretty good.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		The one about him escaping from Mexico.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I saw that.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I was like, huh, this is actually like, it's completely psychotic, but it was really entertaining, you know?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He's kind of embracing it, right?
		He's embracing that he's crazy.
		Like, he's in the Expendables movie.
		You know, he's embracing the crazy aspects of all those recordings.
		He's like the first casualty to that kind of shit.
		Like the first real casualty to a big-time movie star being sort of exposed by, I mean, whatever you want to call her.
		What would you call her, Brian?
		I don't want the Temptress.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Something like those.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't want to be sued.
unidentified		Don't say hooker.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Dude, what did I say?
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		No, I mean.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I mean, like, that's an old term for catch wrestling.
		A lot of those Russians, they knew a lot of sambo.
		Very similar to catch wrestling.
		That's what they call it.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		An escort.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		An escort.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Dude, you said that's a hooker.
		How dare you?
		I don't think she was that.
		I think she was mercenary, though, in her approach, recording this crazy man screaming.
		But maybe, you know what?
		If you're that chick, how else do you ensure that motherfucker doesn't kill you?
		How do you know he's not going to OJ you?
		In all defense.
		I mean, in her defense.
		Everyone looked at it like that woman was evil, what she did was evil.
		The whole thing's a disaster, okay?
		Let's stop thinking there's a black and white on this motherfucker.
		That whole, the whole situation was a total disaster.
		You had a guy screaming, you fucking cunt.
		He's screaming, I hope you get raped by a pack of niggers.
		That's what he screamed.
		He screamed at on a recording.
		Okay, so he's clearly out of his fucking mind.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Isn't that amazing how many chances we give people?
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		We're like, yeah, I'll go see his movie after that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but my point being, like, she's probably out of her mind too.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You know, she recorded him doing all this shit.
		Like, she put it out and she sold it.
		I don't know how it got loose.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		She got her 15 grand from TMZ or something.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, whatever it was.
		But what's fascinating on both accounts is that, like, they're together.
		They mean, what caused her to beat with them?
		I mean, both of them are making terrible choices.
		You know, she's recording him.
		He's completely insane.
		It's like you're getting caught up in this whirlwind of cuckooness.
		But in her defense, how else would she react if she had a child with this guy and he's screaming and yelling crazy shit like that?
		Like you don't, you know, everybody looks at it in terms of like she was mercenary.
		And I agree.
		She probably was definitely mercenary.
		But a guy like that, that's how it works.
		If you're fucking 60 years old and you're starting to get old looking and you have this unbelievably hot young Russian chick who's really into you, you should probably suspect something.
		You should probably suspect that she's not in love with the way you look.
		She's not as attracted to you as you are to her.
		You should probably suspect that she knows that you're an incredibly rich guy who made like $300 million or something on the Passion of the Christ, right?
		How much money did he make?
		Something insane, right?
		Funded it all himself.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		Lethal weapon at least.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		A billion dollars.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I don't think he made that much.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't think he owned that one, but he owned the thing about the Passion of the Christ, that he funded it himself.
unidentified		And it was a huge international Fox News obsessed over that for like a month.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Fuck.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		So a lot of people went out to see it, I'm sure.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Dude, that movie was huge.
		The Passion of the Christ.
		Let's find out how much money that made.
		Let's guess before we look.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		That shit's dead now, though.
		Have you ever heard anyone saying they saw it on TV or anything?
		Like, they don't play that at all.
		You can't even buy that anymore, probably.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I'm sure you can.
		But I think what happened?
		Well, that Jim Caviesel guy didn't work again for a long time either.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		The guy who played Jesus?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		He didn't work again for a long time.
		He's doing something now.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Is he in the desert now, like wandering around for 20 years?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I think he's on a show now, or maybe a new movie now.
		I don't know, but he's doing some stuff now.
		He's a very good actor, so it's kind of unfortunate.
unidentified		But I heard that he went a little crazy.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Let's guess.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What do you guess before we look at how much money it made?
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		I don't know, but I bet Daniel Day-Lewis would have been a way better Jesus.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Because he would have really gotten into it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to go with $150 million.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		That's my number.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Brian, don't cheat.
		Don't cheat.
		You can't be cheating.
		We're having a competition here, bro.
		Hey, hey, hey.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		Don't let that fucking bitch.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		Oh, my God.
		It's bigger than I thought.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		Really?
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		All right, so bigger than you think, I would say.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Holy shit.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		$215 million.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Keep going, bitch.
unidentified		Wow.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's just domestic, son.
		Ready for this?
		Domestic, $370,274,604.
		Foreign, another $241,116,490.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Holy shit.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		You guys are going to see Jesus coin in the next few weeks.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So more than half a billion.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		That's insane.
		This is driven by people supporting him because he's pursuing a religious topic.
		And most of the time, Hollywood ignores that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Dude, its opening weekend was $83 million.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		How much did it cost to make, though?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't know, man.
		Oh, my God.
		Wow.
		Look at this shit.
		3,000 theaters.
		Wow.
		$27,000 a show average.
		And you never think about it that way.
		You know, you never think about it when you're looking at what the actual numbers are for a movie like that.
		$83 million it made in the first week.
		Pow!
unidentified		Suck it!
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I'm Mel Gibson!
		Karate!
		That was a crazy movie, too.
		If you watched it, it was just the entire movie was like this sadist dream, like a guy just getting the fuck beaten out of him.
		And it's so hard to discern a plot, and it's all implied.
		Like you have to know that the guy's already Jesus for the movie to have any sort of an impact.
		So it was essentially a movie that he made for the insiders.
		Like he made it for the people that already knew the Jesus story.
		Because if you didn't know who Jesus was and you saw that movie, it wasn't very informative on who Jesus is.
		It was kind of weird.
		It was like, why are they beating the fuck out of this guy?
		Like, what's going on?
		How come he's not worried?
		He's not even freaking out.
		He's got magic.
		He doesn't use it.
		How come he's not using the magic?
		Why are you letting those guys beat the fuck out of you?
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		It's all for religious people.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		It had a $30 million budget, also.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Kapow.
		So $53 million the first one.
		Look at this fucking, look at these numbers.
		$370,782,930 domestic.
unidentified		Suck it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So Mel Gibson was just blow me!
		Just screaming at this Russian chick.
		You know, I mean, that was probably what was going on in his head.
unidentified		Shut up and blow me.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He didn't even fund her recording sessions and stuff.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		She was trying to be a singer.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So sorrow, sordid, sad.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		Did you see the video that I posted of the two women stealing some guy's furniture or whatever those things are on the beach when you have like a big tent and you know he caught him?
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Cabana.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		These chicks are stealing it?
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he walked up on him going, excuse me, hey, how are you guys doing today?
		And these older women in Florida took all his bags and stuff and they had them all in the middle and then they were taking down his thing and acting like it was theirs and caught him stealing it.
		The second he's like, get the fuck away from it, you know, they start coming at him like I'm attacking him.
		It's one of those videos like the drone video.
		Yeah, the drone video times.
		Here's another one.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Dude, I gotta see this.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		It's got a backlog of awesome videos.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So they're just doing it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		shit.
unidentified		Yeah, but we don't know how to do it.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		Oh.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		You need some help?
unidentified		You know how to do it?
		Yeah.
		This is our stuff.
		This is yours?
		Yes.
		Wait a minute.
		Well, this is ours.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		No.
unidentified		It is.
		This is all ours.
		All of it.
		The chairs, the bag.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		This is all our stuff.
unidentified		My kids.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Yep, that's my kids.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry.
unidentified		Yeah.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		That's what these olds do.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		They steal from the young.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		This is so weird.
unidentified		We didn't blame.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		We'll let it slide, but I'm glad I made it in time.
unidentified		I'm not making it slide.
		I'm telling you.
		No.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		No, no, step away from my shit.
unidentified		How about that?
		You know what?
		I will, and then I'm going to take that camera and put it in the grass.
		I'm going to like that.
		Step back.
		Stop it.
		Stop it.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Seriously?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Whoa.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Was that real?
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it seems to be real.
		I mean, it's being reported on the news and stuff like that.
		It's got over 1.6 million hits, and it costs nothing to make.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I wonder if he shut the phone off and whipped their ass.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, right.
		I've been trying to search news reports for it and see an official police report or anything.
		I just don't think he filed the police, but I looked at his older videos, and it was just him and his kids singing cars and stuff.
		So it doesn't seem like he actually a pranker guy.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But he actually did catch that.
		Well, look, man, young criminals become older criminals.
		You see some 60-year-old ladies.
		Don't just assume that they're sweet and kind because they look like your mom.
		I have some friends that have moms that are criminals.
		Just straight criminals.
		My friend, his mom and his dad, both of them, scamming, credit card scams, all kinds of crazy shit.
		If they're following you, you got to go a circuitous route away from them.
		You don't want them knowing where you live.
		They're criminals.
		But they look like grandpas.
		That happens.
		You can get those.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		Does that blow your blood at all?
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		Because that gets my heart rate.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, it does get your heart rate.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You always get the heart rate of you being attacked while you're holding a camera.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		I know.
unidentified		Remember the...
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		We shouldn't really talk about that.
		We almost had an incident with young Brian.
		But yeah, I mean, hitting people, people hitting people like that, obviously they're stealing this guy's stuff.
		And they're hitting him.
unidentified		I wonder how long was it there for?
unidentified		Like, was it left there for hours?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's a good question.
unidentified		And was it five minutes?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Was it a setup?
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Who knows?
		We don't fucking know.
		That would be a crazy thing to do.
		Set some shit out and then set a camera up from a distance.
		And then when they start stealing, it come down and go, hey, fuck it.
		You're stealing my stuff.
unidentified		Yeah, I mean, if you were saying that the rest of his social media, it's like him and his family, you know, like singing in the cards.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, I hope he's right.
		What if he was on Ambient and shit and it wasn't really his stuff?
		And they fuck out of him.
		We're taking his side.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You know, Jamie, are you going to find out if it's real?
unidentified		Something I just saw today.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if it's real.
		So I can't really comment.
		But if it is real and they were stealing his stuff and then they were beating him up, at what point in time, like if you know those women are criminals, like Brian, let me ask you this.
		You're not a violent guy at all.
		You're a very friendly guy.
		And if you were in a situation like that where your stuff was left out and you came up to it and these old ladies were stealing your stuff and then when you started talking about it, they say, put the camera down and they start hitting on you.
		Would you fight back?
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		I would keep the video on as much as possible and then kick away.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Did you go to your back and do like a guard?
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		No, I would do strong arm.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		I would do it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like the Heisman?
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, just like get the fuck away from me while recording.
		You know, I've been in situations like this before.
		I mean, I always pull out my camera immediately and hit record.
		had a weird police incident that happened recently that I pulled out my camera to start recording him while he was talking to me.
		You know, it's just like, I am now to the point Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Where's the video?
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		Show it.
		I'm not showing it.
		No.
		Yeah.
unidentified		You want to court?
unidentified		Huh?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You want to court?
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
		No.
		No, I just don't.
		I'll say that I'm at a house, not in Burbank.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Was there underage drinking involved?
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		No.
		But we are at this person's house, and we were just talking by my car, and the cop pulls up and just comes out and goes, Sirk, Sirk, I need to see your ID.
		And I'm just like, this is my house.
		And he goes, all right, I don't care.
		What are you doing here?
		And he just started yelling at me and all this stuff.
		And I was just like, come on, what the?
		All right, hold on.
		I pull out my recorder and I go, what's the problem, officer?
		This is my house.
		You're on my property.
		What is going on?
		He goes, I need to see your IDs.
		And, you know, it was just like this whole thing.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So he was being unreasonable.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		He was just being like, why the fuck are you, I mean, bothering me.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Was it possible, though, that they were looking for someone who looked like you who had done something fucked up that they were on foot looking for?
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		What he says is he's like, I just find it peculiar that you're sitting outside this house at two o'clock with that book bag.
		And I'm like, yeah, it just got off work.
		This is camera gear.
		It was from Kill Tony.
		And I was like, this is all my camera gear.
		And he goes, yeah, but you, and I'm like, so I'm not allowed to be at my house on my property with a book bag without getting yelled at.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You don't know what it's like to be black.
		From now on, you're allowed to say you know what it's like to be black.
		You had a taste of it.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		It's just, you know, I understand what he was doing, but I also understand work.
		Like, what if me and this girl were having a serious conversation?
		He just cock blocked and ruined everything that I've ever built up to that?
		Yeah, I've built up to like there was like a magic part that was coming on.
unidentified		You know, she's about to go, okay, I'll come in and fuck you.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		And now it's ruined because now it's just like, what the fuck happened?
		Oh, I need to go home.
		It's late, you know?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Indeed.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		That's interfering with my fucking rights.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, it's definitely fine if he asks you questions.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it's definitely fine if he sees you standing on the lawn of this house and he wonders whether or not you're going in.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		But then he's got to let it go.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		He doesn't have any rights beyond that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, the problem is once someone starts to think that you're guilty of something, they want to believe that they were right.
		Especially if there's any sort of a hostility between you and them.
		Sometimes people perceive that.
		Cops perceive that.
		Like any disrespect between them is like some resistance of what they do or their authority.
		So they want to impose it on you now and get you to do something.
		And you're like, I'm not fucking doing that.
		And then all of a sudden you're involved in this altercation over nothing.
		And you were innocent.
		You're an innocent person.
		But the ego of the cop gets in the way.
		That definitely can happen with the wrong personalities, even with good cops.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		There's also been a lot of incidences lately where I feel like, especially when I'm in my car, I'm like, man, I need to remember to just put my GoPro on in my car and just record everything I'm doing while I'm driving.
		Because, I mean, there's been so much crazy shit that's been happening.
		Like, I saw a guy jump into traffic the other day and get hit, and I'm like, why did he do that?
		Like, I watched him jump into it, like, and he was just a drug addict.
		And I don't know what he was doing.
		I think he was alive and everything.
		I just kept on driving.
		I saw a woman shitting.
		Like, I think I said, shitting in the middle of the street the other.
		Like, I'm like, what?
		But I also think, like, especially with these videos that have been coming up, just women attacking.
		And, like, Anthony saying that woman said that he was going to, that woman was going to, like, if he called the police, was going to say that he was rape.
		She was rape or, you know, attacking her or whatever.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's what he said that she said, that when she was hitting him, she was saying that she was going to say that he sexually assaulted her.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		Right.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		And by the way, it's the Opie and Anthony thing that's going on.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the Opie and Anthony thing, if you don't know, our friends, Opie and Anthony, Anthony Kumia, was in New York City, and he was taking photographs, and he got a photograph of a woman.
		And this woman got very upset that he took a photograph of her.
		So some sort of an altercation took place.
		Some words were exchanged, and she started hitting him.
		So she was hitting him.
		And if you don't know Anthony, you don't know that he's a gun nut, like a legit gun nut who actually has a license to conceal carry in New York City, which is incredibly difficult to obtain.
		But here's one strike for people who want people to have guns.
		Anthony never pulled out that gun.
		Never, I mean, he obviously felt threatened.
		He was getting hit by this one woman who Anthony's a nice guy, but he is, you know, 51 years old, loves his drinking, and I don't think he lifts weights that much.
		It's not like he's this like big, scary, you know, Quentin Jackson, Rampage Jackson looking dude.
		You know, he's a thin guy.
		He's not a physically imposing guy, and this chick is beating on him, and he's got a gun on him.
		I wasn't there, so obviously I don't know what the tone of the situation was.
		I don't know how it got started.
		I've read very little about it other than he went on this rampage, calling her an animal and a cunt and all this different shit.
		But what's hilarious is everything that he said in this Twitter rampage that they're firing him for, he said on the radio show and they hired him for.
		The radio show, if you paid attention to what he said over the years and why he's entertaining and how he says it, he gets crazy about racial situations.
		He gets crazy about certain aspects of the African American community and he's done it forever.
		And so these things that he said after getting punched that they were surprising to Sirius who had heard him say these things and they gave him checks.
		It's kind of hilarious.
		And also like one of the things that people are pointing out all over all over the Twitter sphere is they're showing all these lyrics to rap songs that Sirius has aired since Anthony got fired for tweeting.
		And the lyrics are ridiculous.
		I mean, oh yeah, dude, it's hardcore rap.
		They air hardcore rap lyrics.
		So they've got, you know, nigga this and shoot suck my dick and this bitch isn't that bitch is.
		You know, the craziest, most radical, you know, hip-hop shit.
		And yet, Anthony gets in trouble for this thing that he did where he went on this Twitter rampage and said a bunch of shit that he's...
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		That Sirius makes money off of racism.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That Sirius makes money off of.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know what, man, here's the thing.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		I think what happens is that these companies get really terrified of the Twitter storm that they get.
		Like you saw that with, well, you see it all the time with sponsors for Rush Limbaugh, but you see it with, or I believe conservative radio in general, you see it with like Donald Trump had a, I forget what it was, a tie collection or some shit at Macy's.
		Then there were all these people on Twitter like tweeting the Macy's account, like don't support him because I don't even remember what the issue was, but once it gets going, the company feels overwhelmed and they're like, we have to respond because a thousand people just retweeted this thing.
		And I think they just feel like the best route is the 48 Laws of Power thing where you just put a head on the chopping block and think later.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I see their point of view.
		I do.
		But I don't think they were fans of the Opie and Anthony show.
		That's what I think is part of what's going on.
		I don't think they listened.
		I think there weren't a lot of people complaining.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		It's just like the money coming in.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's a good show.
		It's a great show.
		It's the reason why we're doing this show.
		The reason why we're doing this show is because of Opie and Anthony in a lot of ways.
		There's a direct chain of influences.
		One of them being Tom Green.
		Tom Green had his own show in his house way back in the day.
		And I remember going over there and be like, this is the craziest shit ever.
		He's got a server room.
		He's got a goddamn server room with cables all through his living room.
		And he turned his living room into a television show.
		He just did it a little too early.
		He had a great innovative idea.
		He did it a little too early.
		That influenced us.
		Anthony Cumia influenced me greatly when he did live at the compound.
		He does this thing live at the compound where he set up a studio in his house in Long Island.
		And in his basement, he has a green screen and he'll fucking sing while he's holding guns.
		Dude, he's singing songs.
		He's singing karaoke while he's holding assault rifles.
		All right.
		And that, I don't know if they ever paid attention to that, but that shit is hilarious.
		And I saw him doing that while he was still on Opi and Anthony.
		He was doing it just for fun.
		And I was like, oh my God, this is genius.
		He set up a green screen.
		He set up a real, like, professional stage with a green screen.
		And behind the green screen, he would have like video of Manhattan or he would have like, like, I was going to totally steal that idea.
		I might still put a green screen behind me for if we do get that tri-quarter tri-caster thing.
		That would do it in respect to Anthony.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		I have a green screen in my apartment.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What kind of weird shit are you up to?
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		It's kind of low end because it's just the green cloth.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		It's the right color.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		But then you use iMovie, you switch out the background, and suddenly instead of being in your apartment, you have this subtle background, or maybe it's the city or whatever the fuck it is.
		You find something on Flickr, and then people take it a little bit more seriously.
		Because you're not just some crazy rambling in your kitchen.
		You're like, oh, I see somebody spent a little bit of time on this, and people will watch.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I like that.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's pretty cool.
		Everybody out there should do it.
		Go on Amazon and get like a green screen kit.
		They're not expensive.
		Not everybody, if you're like just a fucking idiot, don't do it.
		But if you have something to say, this is the way to not seem like a crazy person on YouTube.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		A crazy person on YouTube just told you how to not say things and do things that make you look completely crazy.
		Everybody on YouTube is, that's like one of the easiest ways to dismiss people.
		Oh, he's just got a YouTube show.
		Fucking guy on YouTube saying what's crazy shit on YouTube.
		Right?
		Isn't that like, it's sort of a term of dismissal, isn't it?
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, I think it's all changing.
		I think now people are kind of, I'm not even a big YouTuber.
		I just do it from time to time, but I think people are definitely intimidated by things like The Young Turks, where it's clear that it's more powerful than half the cable shows out there.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		And so the only thing they can do, and this is something that he's talked about, is dismiss it.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Be like, oh, it's not the real thing, but this is realer than probably anything on the radio right now.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, also, what he's doing is realer than, I mean, his numbers, he can verify.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The numbers that they're using, like Nielsen's, come on.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		YouTube does not fuck around with their numbers.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		They're very serious about it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's absolutely true, but it's also that it's a number that you could watch and see.
		I mean, like, you can't, you can tell me whatever you want about the Nielsen's, but the reality is you only have a certain amount of households.
		Like, I don't know how many, it's.
		There's some number differences.
		And they can tell you all day long.
		Well, we've statistically analyzed how well it works.
		I don't believe you.
		You know why I don't believe you?
		Because the internet says so.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's in their best interest to inflate their numbers so they get more advertising dollars.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, maybe.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		That's probably what's happening.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But I don't even think it's inflating.
		I think by their algorithm, this is what the numbers that they've calculated.
		It's probably pretty close.
		They're probably pretty close.
		But why would you want pretty close when you can get absolutely exact?
		And that's what the internet offers.
		So when they talk shit on like CHANK and like the Young Turks, just look at the numbers.
		Look at how many downloads.
		You know what that is?
		That's real.
		That's a real number.
		It's not like 15,000 households across the Midwest.
		I don't understand the Nielsens at all.
		I never understood it.
		It's voodoo.
		Unless they can accurately...
		Every time you watch it at home or you watch it, maybe it's an app that we all wear on their fucking Google glasses or something like that that measures what you're watching so we can all figure it out.
		But until they do that, you don't really know.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		They should already have that, though, based on what cable companies know what channel you're watching.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They say they do, but they don't share that information.
		They say they know how many people are watching what on satellite, but they can't use it as a ratings thing because it's probably like some NSA type shit.
		You're not even supposed to be doing that.
		You're not supposed to be monitoring people's viewing habits and find out that they've been ordering dirty debutantes over and over again and clearing their history.
		Can you find that history?
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		I do.
		I don't think that does shit.
		I think there's probably a second copy somewhere that goes off into the cloud.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Especially if you're ordering some freak shit.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		If you're ordering some freak shit.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Did you hear about the, there was a thing about Tor where apparently one of the NSA programs actually flags you for further review if you're using Tor.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Tor?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What's Tor?
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		That's the anonymous anonymized web browser that people use to surf without giving away their identity.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Really?
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So if you use it, you get flagged.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Just for using it, they consider you to be like some kind of elevated...
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like they said, extremists.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Extremists.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What the fuck are you talking about, dude?
		Who are the biggest freaks in the world?
		Journalists and college kids.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		Well, people and also controls on internet course sites that he's actually using.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That would be like the number one.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		People fucking people.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		I've only used it once, and the problem is it's way slow.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		It needs to really, it's frustrating to use.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You didn't worry when you signed up to use it that you would be flagged?
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		I assume I'm already on a.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I think you are.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		I think I'm on a good one.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I talked to a dude the other day about you.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No.
		Can you imagine, though?
		For a second there, you started to sweat it.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		No, I was excited.
unidentified		I was like, ooh, let's hear about this.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		No, the Tor issue, it just goes to show you how fucked up things are that they consider that extreme.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's kind of weird that preserving your anonymity would automatically put you in this weird bracket.
unidentified		But I guess if you thought about who are the extreme people that would use this that would be dangerous, and how many of the people— I would like to see activists networking out companies dumping pollution.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		I don't really give a shit about that.
		I want to see that happen.
		But they consider that to be a threat to national security because it threatens the balance of power.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no, you're totally right.
		It's easy to make both arguments.
		That's the problem.
		It's one of those situations where, yeah, if you did that and you looked at everybody's background when you found them using this and anonymizing.
		What did you say?
		Animizing?
		Anonymous.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Anonymizing.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Anonymizing.
		Anonymizing web browser.
		You'd go, well, you know, it's probably a good pool to look through.
		The thing is, like, could I accurately rely on them to look at a guy like David Seaman and go, oh, no, this is actually just a smart young guy who's looking at the world and doesn't like all the bullshit he sees, and he thinks that we can do better.
		Really that simple.
		That's your agenda.
		That's how I take you.
		Am I accurate in my assessment of you?
unidentified		I'm pretty accurate.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		I get frustrated by seeing.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You're an evil person.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		I get frustrated by seeing stupidity and callousness.
		And I think we're seeing like a nice combination of that.
		And we're also on the other side seeing progress.
		And I'm attracted to progress.
		So I'm just trying to like push the ball and, you know, talk about things that I think are actually helping while also reminding people that a lot of this stuff has not been fixed.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I think you're also doing a great service in that you're doing it in this uncensored form through the Internet very courageously.
		And you're a part of what's now like this whole there's a and it's all connected in a lot of ways to the new corporations to like Google and these new technological corporations.
		They all seem to have an ethic about them that didn't exist in some of the other corporations that we think of, whether it's fossil fuel corporations or car manufacturers or anything along those lines.
		We don't think of them as being like professionals.
		particularly ethical particularly tolerant but you think about that when it comes to like tech companies like Google is trying and variety these companies like Google especially was uh they're very upset about all this net neutrality shit.
		They're very upset about all this possibility that the internet is going to be regulated by the government.
		They're going to be able to monitor and track streams and how fast those shit you get.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		I was just thinking about this earlier today because I was trying to figure out what is the problem?
		Like, how do we get to a place where a company can be...
		A company can take advantage of that capitalistic impulse towards constant progress, constant new products, refining, make it more addictive, make it easier to use.
		So Twitter, because they're profit focused, that's what they're doing.
		And because they're in the right kind of business where they make their money from giving small people a voice.
		That's obviously an oversimplification, but that's what Twitter does.
		And so that capitalistic thing, that machine works really well in making Twitter better and better, at least for the next couple of years until something better comes along and replaces it.
		But then you get companies like the big ISPs or the big cable companies where them getting more and more capitalistically efficient and more ruthless isn't actually helping the rest of us.
		It's dragging us down because they're in charge of this thing we all need, the internet.
		And if they're only thinking about, oh, we can fuck them over a little bit right here, and then we can implement this and we can have the fast lane for our preferred partners, they're applying that profit motive to something that is completely against the public interest and doing it in a very efficient, influential way.
		Like they have lobbyists working on this shit, but it's against the public interest to be like lobbying for polluted water and being like, well, we make more selling polluted water.
		Too bad.
		You can't do that.
		You can't sell people internet access and pick and choose which sites people are going to be able to get the fastest.
		That'd be like selling me a newspaper and it's like, oh, half the photos haven't been printed.
		If you want those photos to be printed, go to our office and we'll print them out for you.
		You would not pay for the newspaper.
		You'd be like, fuck this.
		I'm never buying your newspaper again.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's also one of those things where when you're looking at it, you go, why should this be legal?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Why should this be okay?
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's censorship of what people are putting out there into the world.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		The whole point of the internet is that it's not preferential.
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's control.
		It's an added element of control, and the added element going to large corporations and not to individuals.
		It's going the wrong way.
		It's going the opposite way that the internet goes.
		The internet goes to the individual having more ability to communicate, the individual having more resources.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		And what you said about Google seeming to be more ethical in some ways, and a lot of these tech companies have the same kind of ethos.
		I think it's not because they're necessarily better people.
		It's because what they're doing, their industry is non-parasitic.
		So whereas the cable company, the only way they can increase their profits is we got this pipeline into your house.
		Let's make more money off of what we own.
		Over time, that becomes parasitic.
		Whereas Google essentially built a whole empire off of user-generated content.
		Anybody who built a website improves Google search.
		Anybody who puts shit on YouTube improves the content offering of YouTube.
		So they make money off of everybody having a voice and they want to protect that voice.
		Cable companies don't give a shit.
		They make money off of pumping their networks into your home and they want to maximize their profit.
		And unfortunately, they're really powerful and they have a bigger voice than almost anybody else.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think that's an interesting way of looking at it.
		I think there's probably some of that in there too.
		But I think that also, I like to look on the bright side of things.
		I think that what I'm seeing from these new tech companies is just more tolerance.
		And I think that that tolerance is probably due to the influence of the internet.
		And that's probably how they, I mean, look, Google is the internet.
		I mean, that's what it's about.
		Their whole company is essentially about the internet and now phones.
		But the phones are also connected to the internet.
		I mean, it's a big part of what they do.
		And the ethic of the internet, it seems to be, like the social ethic seems to be evolving way quicker and way stronger than at any time that I can ever remember in cultural history.
		I never remember these like big movements, shifts in how people talked and behaved and the words that were accepted and the words that weren't accepted and, you know, and just these giant trends that take place and just wash through culture.
		They didn't move this quick before.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		It's because we practice like thought mass correction, which I'm not entirely convinced is a good thing yet.
		I still haven't really decided if it's good or bad.
		But if you look at that woman who took the flight from London to South Africa and tweeted out that insensitive shit about like, you know, like I hope I don't get AIDS when I land in Africa or something.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		She finished it though.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		She said, just kidding, I'm white.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		So it was even worse.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		She was even better, you mean?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's what made it funny.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Before her flight landed in South Africa, I think she already lost her job and the global uproar.
		So that person learned that this is not socially acceptable.
		And why did they learn that?
		Because the internet gave them that lesson.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, she should have been a comedian because that would have been fucking hilarious.
		You know, if a really funny comedian said that, like Eliza Schlesner said that when she went to Africa, holy shit, that would be funny.
		Is it the wrong thing to say?
		Yes.
		It most certainly is.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but if you worked in corporate PR for some, I think it was, I don't even want to say the company, but just a big media company.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Do you think she was on pills or something?
		Like, why would she fucking say that?
		I mean, how could a person in corporate America think it's okay to put something on your Twitter?
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		I have no idea.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Just kidding, I'm not, I'm white.
		LOL.
		Hope I don't get AIDS.
		Just kidding, I'm white.
		Wow.
		Yeah, that's a crazy person.
		It's funny, though.
		Still funny.
		It's a horrible thing to say.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but the point is, like, crazy people are being called out.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		They're still crazy, but now we can call them out.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So you're going to ruin a lot of good jokes.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		You are.
unidentified		Yeah.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		And a lot of jobs, people are losing their jobs, like Anthony, just for going off on Twitter.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, the Anthony thing is particularly weird because that's sort of like he had been known for that.
		Like, you guys had a show where it was like, they were openly joking about racism all the time.
		Like, the other day, he had Amy Schumer on one of the best of shows.
		It was from years ago.
		And they were talking about interracial porn.
		And Amy Schumer was fucking hilarious.
		But she was saying that she, she was so funny, man.
		It was really funny.
		She's So sharp.
		She was saying that she's never fucked a black guy, but she likes watching black on white porn.
		And Anthony was talking about how sad it was and that his racism won't let him watch it.
		Like his racism won't let him watch a black guy fucking a white girl.
unidentified		But there is a certain if you can't handle a black man fucking a white person.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		There is a certain joking that he's joking.
		He's joking.
		He is a comedian.
		I think a lot of people forget it's a comedy show that he's one of the funniest people I know that just doesn't go on stage.
		And it's a comic.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He's most certainly a comedian.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Whether he goes on stage in front of a live audience or whether he goes.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Do you think his rampage was meant to be funny, though?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No, that's the problem.
		That's part of the problem.
		That's not done for entertainment or funny.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Well, then your profession doesn't really matter.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		See, my issue with all these things is that like many things in life, they're not black and white.
		You know, this is not black and white.
		I think Anthony's awesome.
		I love that dude.
		He's one of my favorite people on radio ever.
		He's great.
		He's just funny as shit.
		He's smart as fuck.
		He knows a lot of things about different things.
		He's very interesting the way he looks at the world.
		He says a lot of crazy shit about black people.
		He does.
		He has for a long time.
		I don't know his personal experiences.
		I don't know what he's around, where he's formulated these ideas about certain black people, but I also know that he has a lot of black friends.
		Patrice and him were close.
		You know, he has black comics that come on the show all the time that are friendly with him.
		He's not a mean person.
		He's not a bad guy.
		If you're a nice person, he'll be nice to you too.
		That said, I don't know what the fuck went down that night.
		Who knows?
		Yeah.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		I mean, he did get attacked, which is crazy.
		But he also, leading up to it, he also used to always talk about statistics about his city in New York and stuff like that, about how, you know, the race issues with that.
		And so I think that what he, because he didn't, when he went off, he didn't really say all blacks are this.
		You know, he was kind of just talking about the person that attacked him and was a savage, you know, is what he said.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he called her a cunt, an animal and all this different shit.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		If it was a white chick and he called her an animal, he would have been fine.
unidentified		Yeah, and he would have called her the same exact words.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Look, it's all very tricky.
		You know what I always say about whenever you see a situation where two people get into a fight?
		It's not always just one guy's fault.
		Sometimes it's both guys' fault.
		Sometimes one, a different person, like if you talked to this guy, it would have never turned into a violent altercation, and maybe you would have walked away shaking hands.
		Sorry, man.
		No worries, dude.
		And another guy talking to the same guy, it might lead to a bloody fistfight.
		And it's just a matter of how do you communicate with people?
		Who is this woman?
		I've been, I was in New York City with this chick that I was dating.
		We were walking down the street, and this girl was so nice.
		She was so nice.
		I mean, she was, she wouldn't be mean to anyone ever.
		No mean faces.
		She didn't have anything like that in her.
		So we're walking and this black couple is walking in the same direction.
		And the girl steps in between her and I and pushes this girl that I was with.
		Just pushes her.
		Move, bitch.
		Just move, bitch, because we were walking this way and they were walking towards us.
		And she just decided that that was her spot.
		So she just elbowed this girl, said, move, bitch.
unidentified		Wow.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And she pushed her to the side.
		And I am thinking, we're about to go to war.
		I'm like, we're about to go to war.
		And I'm going to knock out the girl first because I don't want to have to deal with her while I'm hitting that other guy.
		I'm like, this is about to be a fight.
		And then that chick just turned and went, white bitches or something along the lines like that.
		Some white and walked away and kept going, fortunately.
		Because it was like all of a sudden a crit.
		But I was like, that was like close to a fist fight for no reason.
		And it just happened to be that that chick was black.
		It just happened to be the girl that I was with was white and blonde.
		But that happens.
		There's black assholes out there.
		Just like there's white assholes out there.
		There's Chinese assholes out there.
		That doesn't make me racist.
		That makes me scared of people that are assholes.
		And they come in all forms, bro.
		I grew up in a Boston neighborhood.
		There was Jamaica Plain, the place where I lived at before I moved to Newton, which was all cushy and nice.
		Jamaica Plain was filled with these Irish savages.
		They were dangerous fucking kids.
		These dangerous Irish kids.
		And if you ran into them, look, it didn't matter what race they were.
		It's like, who's a savage?
		Those kids were savages.
		It didn't matter if they were white or Chinese.
		You walk down the wrong street in Chinatown and you run into some crazy Chinese gang that wants to fuck you up.
		You're not happy.
		I mean, it's not better that way.
		There's all sorts of races.
		Every race contains savages.
		Every race contains assholes.
		And the problem is when it's a black person that's getting attacked by a white guy, you got to be real specific that it's that person that's a piece of shit.
		And if some other people jumped in, it's them that are pieces of shit.
		It's not the whole town.
		It's not all black people.
		It's not, you know, it's just there's a certain type of person, whether it's white or black or whatever, that's a piece of shit, you know?
		And I don't know if it's this lady.
		I don't know.
		Who knows what happened to her that day?
		You know, who knows what happened to her?
		Who knows what's going on in her life?
		And all of a sudden this guy's taking pictures at her.
		She wants to punch him in the face.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		Do you remember what time it was?
		I forgot to look to see actually what time it occurred, but I think it was around 2 to 3 a.m. when the Twitter happened.
		But, you know, I understand he's, if you looked at his photos on Instagram, he was taking a lot of photos of the city, a lot of photos of cops and construction workers and stuff like that.
		I get having a great camera that you're playing, like New York's empty and you're downtown and you're taking photo and a woman's walking in the distance.
		Yeah, you're taking her because it's a photo.
		It's cool.
		But, you know, I don't know what happened here, but what does seem to happen that she did attack him and he didn't have a police or deal with the police.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No, he doesn't call 911 because he figured like they wouldn't do anything.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You know, and maybe he's right.
		But I don't think the right way to handle it is going on Twitter and going fucking crazy.
		I mean, I think that that's something that someone does when you just want to lash out.
		And for him, he likes to use social media to, you know, to get points across.
		And that's a point, though, the black-on-white violence has been a point of interest of his for a long time.
		You know, and There's a reality that it exists, just like white-on-black violence exists, just like all kinds of violence exists.
		And Anthony is a guy who's particularly concerned with that.
		It's one of the reasons why he carries a gun.
		I mean, he's a rare person that has a concealed carry permit in New York City.
		He's one of them.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		It's pretty hard.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He's got a big ass fucking booze.
		So this chick is hitting him while he's armed with a deadly weapon.
		And then five other people jump in, apparently.
		And the whole thing's chaos.
		And I would have loved for it to be avoided.
		But I think Sirius lost the potential opportunity to engage in a discussion about this, about violence in New York City, about violence in general, people interacting with each other, about interacting on social media, interacting when you're hot with fucking rage and you're just venting and ranting and calling someone a continent animal.
		And what is your actual intent?
		And what is my job as a representative of your SiriusXM?
		Am I allowed to be Anthony?
		Or do I have to be Anthony that only thinks like SiriusXM wants me to think and only tweets like SiriusXM wants me to tweet?
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		When are you clocked off work?
unidentified		Exactly.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I'm not supporting him in this.
		I'm saying this is a very tricky situation where the company has to be real careful because part of what you do is you promote free speech and you have a radio show and you have this network that's uncensored.
		This network was the coolest thing about Sirius was you could get Howard Stern on it and he could swear.
		It was the greatest thing of all time.
		Like from now on, he's unchained and Opie and Anthony are unchained and comedy is unchained.
		You can hear all my bits.
		It's totally uncensored.
		They have them on Sirius.
		It's beautiful.
		So if all of a sudden you decide that you don't like what a guy says on Twitter, so his opinions, which are very similar, that he's voiced on the radio, very similar if not identical, will now be silenced, it gets a little squirrely.
		The whole thing is a backlash.
		It's a backlash to the racism and or implied racism of his tweets.
		You know, look, do I wish that he just went on the radio and explained himself in more than 140 characters?
		Yes, because I bet he could have vented the exact same rage the next day with no Twitter thing and people would not have had a problem with it if he said it with his words, if he explained what happened.
		There's a real problem with fucking getting out anything super important where you don't want to have any mistakes in how you're being perceived with 140 characters.
		You know, you're saying cunt, animal, savage.
		You know, he's not talking.
		He's writing a bunch of shit down.
		So are you mad that he's conveying those thoughts?
		Do you not think that he would have those thoughts after this chick hit him?
		Do you expect him to be angelic in his approach to violence?
		Like, I don't know what you're looking for here.
		Because if it's just that you think that what he said is racist, have you ever listened to that show?
		Because if you listen to that show, he says shit like that all the time.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Also, if you have a job as a show host or a pundit, you really need to be allowed to say what you want on your social media, even if it kind of damages the nation.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But no, but no.
		Because look, if he said all Jews need to be thrown into an oven and pissed on while they're on fire.
		No.
unidentified		No, that's a little bit different.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But is it different?
		Because where does one draw the line?
		What if he said that and he's only joking and it turns out he's actually Jewish?
		Is that okay?
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		I don't know nearly enough about him or the show, so I really don't know.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I think it's the same thing.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I think when you say something absolutely, totally awful like that, like all Jews should be, like, you can't be associated with my company.
unidentified		Right.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Well, Jack's not a serious person at that point.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's a crazy person.
		And it's a dangerous person, too, because who knows what percentage of the population that's listening that's unhinged that's been waiting for a guy like you to come along.
		But he didn't do that.
		You know, what he did is respond to a person who attacked him and then talk in very racial terms about the scenario and he has in the past on the radio show about what it's like to worry about black violence on white people.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and that's what like the Young Turks thing you saw.
		I don't know if you saw that or not, but that was.
		That was one of the worst things I've ever seen.
		I lost, I'm sorry, all respect for them just based off that one interview.
		Because it was completely, you can know that they don't know the backstory.
		They don't know, they don't listen to the show.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right, but it's an interesting thing, though, isn't it?
		When you're looking at someone who doesn't know Anthony, doesn't know the show, doesn't know the backstory, and is responding to, just deciding everything right there, you know, that he's perving, that he's taking a picture of this woman coming up the street and not knowing about all those other pictures that he had taken, and that he is an amateur photographer.
		He loves taking pictures.
		And a candid photo of a woman walking down the street, she's pretty, and she had long legs, and she had a nice body.
		Look good, you know?
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		I heard three in the morning dressed up like street meet.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Street meet.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		How dare you?
		But they jumped on him unfairly, and that was like Fox News.
		It was like, wait, aren't you supposed to be the opposite of this?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No, I don't think it was like Fox News.
		I think it was like they perceived what his words were.
		I'm telling you, there's a fucking real problem with saying something like that at 140 characters.
		It's stupid.
		Like, I've said some dumb shit on Twitter before.
		I've had people write full blogs on like one tweet that I had that was like a joke, just a joke tweet.
		I get that.
		I get that you could decide that, you know, you have a green light to write something.
		140 characters doesn't work.
		It doesn't work for anything important.
		If you really had a situation where you thought your life was in danger or you thought, you know, you were, you know, you were going to go unconscious or you're going to lose your eyesight.
		Like apparently he had like spots on his eyes.
		Wouldn't you want to hear that?
		Like the full version of it?
		I think if Anthony just would tell the full version of it on the air and avoid the tweets, none of this would have happened.
		He would have been able to express himself the exact same way.
		That fucking cunt animal.
		He would have been able to say whatever he wanted.
		He would have been able to talk in depth about black on white violence, which I'm not saying that's all that exists.
		There's plenty of white-on-black violence.
		There's plenty.
		I'm saying that it exists.
		I mean, to pretend it doesn't exist is pretty silly to me.
		To pretend there's not black people that will hit white people and rob them, just like to pretend there's not white people Who will hit black people and rob them?
		Of course, it exists.
		Racism exists.
		Violent racism from random people on both sides can and does exist.
		So, is he right in saying that it exists from them, or would he have to qualify it first by saying that there's a lot of piece of shit white people out there as well?
		I don't know.
		You know, I don't know.
		But in my opinion, what they're doing is silly.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		This is a quote from Penn Gillette today.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Penn says this.
		If I'm in a position where I cross somebody who's carrying a gun and can defend themselves and hurt me, and their choice is to write angry stuff on Twitter instead of fighting me back, wonderful Gandhi.
		That's Gandhi.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I don't agree with that.
		I think just because you have a gun, that doesn't make you any more special.
		Like, well, I didn't use my gun.
		It's like, that shouldn't even be on the table in the first place.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, it certainly should be on the table if someone's trying to take your life.
		What's the difference between someone punishing you with their knuckles and someone beating you to death?
		How much of a background do you have in violence?
		Have you ever seen someone get knocked unconscious in a street fight?
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Actually, yeah, but on YouTube.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I've seen it in real life.
		I've seen it in real life a few times, and it's terrifying.
		I saw in real life once in Hollywood, there was a moment in front of the comedy store.
		We're all hanging out.
		It was after a show.
		And this guy and this other guy got in this argument.
		And there was traffic going by, and they're right in front of the House of Blues, which is directly across the street from the comedy store.
		And in the middle of this argument, there's back and forth, and it's a white guy and a black guy.
		And you see them start to swing at each other.
		And the white guy goes into a full panic.
		All I remember is this guy, like, standing, like, wincing his eyes and flailing with his hands.
		Like, literally had, it was just in full panic.
		And this black guy is, I see him hit him, and I see cars go in front of it.
		And I don't know what happened.
		I just, I know that they're hitting each other because the white guy was flailing, but I don't see the connection.
		And then the car goes back, you know, the car passes, and the guy's flat out cold on the concrete, just in serious trouble.
		He's in the street.
		There's cars going by.
		He's in a fight with a guy and he's completely unconscious.
		And everybody's screaming.
		There's cars honking.
		And this guy's out cold on the street.
		That guy could die easy.
		And again, let me tell you something.
		A woman can do that to you, just like a man can do that to you.
		If you don't think that there's women out there that can punch you in the face and knock you unconscious, it's because you've never been punched by a woman.
		There's a lot of women that can punch really fucking hard.
		You know, see these snacks?
		That's my friend Miriam.
		Miriam Nakamoto.
		She's an eight-time world Muay Thai champion.
		She beat a man in a kickboxing bout.
		She's beautiful.
		She's a nice person.
		She makes snacks now.
		But if that chick punches you in the face, you're fucksvil.
		You know, like for real.
		Like a regular guy who doesn't know how to fight, she'll beat the fucking brakes off you.
		It's not good.
		So he doesn't know anything about this girl.
		And if the girl starts teeing off on him with left and rights and she's got like precision punching, guess what?
		You're going to go unconscious.
		So should you applaud him for not pulling out his gun?
		Yeah.
		Yeah.
		You shouldn't pull out a gun in that situation and he did the right thing.
		So that I agree with him.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I just wouldn't go as far as saying that he is Gandhi.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He's joking.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I know he's joking.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's why it's written.
		See, when it's written, you get all fucked up.
		You get all fucked up.
		Even you, the regular person, of course, is going to get completely different.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		It's impossible to tell sarcasm.
		Like, I thought that he was serious because he's a pretty serious guy.
		I realize he does a show in Vegas and shit, but he's very serious.
		He has a lot of serious ideas.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He is serious.
		I mean, he's joking about that by saying he's Gandhi.
		Right, but he's a joke.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		His premise is serious.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the premise is absolutely serious.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's true.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Is there any way to see a security video of how this went down?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's a good question.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Good question.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Given how, I mean, Sirius is a big company and it's kind of big implications to drop one of your biggest hosts.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, the outrage was all over online.
		I mean, people went crazy about it.
		People went crazy about it.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		There's petitions right now that are up to, like, I think last I saw was 15,000.
		You know, there's the cancel once canceling.
		They have to be getting hurt by this because, honestly, Howard Stern and Opium Anthony, that's pretty much fueling that channel.
		I would imagine.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Do you know that for sure?
		Because I don't know what they make their money off.
		I have no idea.
		I would just be guessing.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		Well, I would imagine that Opie and Anthony is definitely a huge pie.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's a great show.
		It's a great show.
		And by the way, if it was on the internet, it would still be awesome.
		If they just switched to the internet, it'd be huge.
		I mean, it might be a great opportunity for them.
		I mean, if they cancel Anthony, if they fire Anthony, is Opie still under contract?
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		I mean, how does that work?
		What OP said today is that him and Jim will be back Monday, next Monday.
		And so they might be making it the Opie and Jim show just based on contracts.
		But what's interesting is leading up to this is how much Opie has been talking about that he's done.
		He's not going to sign a contract.
		He wants to do a podcast.
		done, and this whole timing of this is very interesting because...
		It's very interesting.
		Very interesting.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Wonder Man.
		I hope they do a podcast.
		Look, this show is awesome.
		It's a funny show to watch.
		Little Jimmy's the funniest guy ever on radio.
		Jim Norton is my favorite guy ever of all time on radio.
		No question about it.
		Consistently comes with the funny.
		He's hilarious and he's smart.
		He's well thought out.
		He's an interesting dude.
		He's honest.
		I really love Jimmy.
		I think he's a hilarious comedian, too.
		He's so fun.
		Plus, he makes me feel, I don't feel like it's so much of a perb after I hang out with him.
		Like, I thought my act had too many dick jokes, and I went to see him, and I even told him that.
		I go, dude, I had the best time.
		You freed me in a lot of ways.
		Because sometimes I go, man, I got so many dick jokes.
		Why do I keep writing dick jokes?
		His whole act was dick jokes from beginning to end, and I loved it.
		It was awesome.
		I saw him at Cobbs, Cobbs Comedy Club in Austin.
		Not Cobbs, Cap City, Cap City Comedy Club in Austin.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		Anthony's starting his compound show this week, though, so that's going to be interesting because I don't know if he has a lawyer, if he said he was going to lawyer up, but what if he can talk about and what he can't talk about?
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		It's going to be interesting.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm pretty sure he could probably talk about the incident.
		That he could talk about.
		No one can keep you from talking about a person attacking you.
		How could they keep you from doing that?
		Any person that could keep you from doing that is not a person you want to be associated with.
		They fire you for that?
		Good.
		Imagine someone keeping you from talking about you being attacked, Like your own personal experience, how he expresses himself is entirely up to him.
		I think we'll probably get a more balanced view of it now than when it happened.
		You know, I think he's probably going to take into consideration all the heat and the bullshit and the time that's elapsed and the emotions that have relaxed and the tension that's relaxed, the sting of the punches, and he'll be able to look at it and give you a funny assessment of it.
		But the show will just be better if they go on the internet.
		They can do whatever they want.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		100 times.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You don't need anybody anymore.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		And they can move anywhere.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You just don't.
		Yeah, they can move anywhere they want.
		You don't need anybody anymore.
		It's silly.
		It's like the amount of people that don't have iPods or iPhones or can't get their phone to stream through their radio, it's come almost everybody now.
		It's really close, you know?
		I mean, especially if you're commuting, if you're getting on subways and shit like that, it's actually better than having some sort of a satellite that sends it to you.
		And you can get it whenever you want.
		You could pause it.
		You could listen whenever you want.
		It's just a better medium, you know?
		And don't get me wrong, I have three cars that have Sirius satellite radio.
		I love it.
		It's great.
		I love the fact that I could flip through the shit and listen to new music.
		I love that I can get on the classic vinyl station and listen to all classic rock because I'm old as fuck.
		I'm old as fuck and I reminisce.
		I'll listen to some Bob Seeger.
		I like it.
		I like Sirius.
		I'll keep it as a product.
		But man, you got to realize what you're selling.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		The music channels are definitely great for sure.
		I have them into my cars also.
		I know that the majority of what I listen to, though, is Opi and Anthony.
		And it used to be Howard Stern, but again, you know, it's just kind of not the same.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think that they would be just as happy, if not happier, on the internet.
		I think they would do just as well, if not better, on the internet.
		I don't think there's any downside to this.
		No one can stop you anymore.
		They used to just be able to fire you, and that was it.
		They can't do that anymore because anybody could just go on YouTube with their cell phone.
		You could just start the David Seaman show sitting here at Chipotle.
		Look, this fucking government build's going on right now.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		It's basically what I do.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		With a green screen.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Using a cell phone and a green screen.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		What if this would have happened if that serious just instead took a different route?
		Because, you know, they bitch about their studio and how horrible it is and stuff like that.
		What if they could just send it in?
		Like kind of what Joe Rogan experience does to them.
		Right, right, right.
		But what if, would they still be as upset if he did all this Twitter rampage, if he just had a send-in show where they had their own staff, their own employees, their own sponsors, and they just send it in?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, we're getting into a lot of what-ifs now.
		We're not business people, obviously.
		That's why we work together.
		I don't know what it would be like to be a part of a shareholder corporation.
		They have shares.
		They're responsible for a lot of shit.
		They have to listen to a lot of people, man.
		There's a lot of people involved.
		When you have companies, man, anytime anything gets crazy and people start protesting, you got to act.
		You got to get out there and you got to save this company as the shareholder, you know, as the CEO.
		Like the guy, the fucking NBA guy when they got rid of Donald Sterling.
		What's his name?
		That fucking bald dragon-looking dude that was so ridiculous on that podium.
unidentified		I don't know.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that was so ridiculous.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		Adam Silver.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That goofy fuck.
		That shit was so ridiculous.
		We fined him the maximum amount.
		You know, that drives me crazy, that whole story.
		Like, you got an old guy who's known for saying racial shit.
		He tells his girlfriend she can fuck black guys, just don't take pictures with them.
		And all you can focus on is the picture part.
		He's letting her fuck black guys.
		And you guys are going to fine them.
		Right?
		2.5 million?
		That's ridiculous.
		The highest amount.
		Oh, it seems reasonable.
		Yeah, he told her don't take pictures of black guys.
		What an asshole.
		You can fuck them, though.
		They leave that out.
		They totally leave that out.
		Why would he leave that out?
		Because you can't bring it up.
		Imagine that was you and you were the commissioner of the NBA and you had to explain to people and you were like, look, on the bright side, he's allowing her to fuck black guys.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Right?
unidentified		Yeah.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		I don't know what to make of that one either because it seems like this goes back to what you were saying about how, you know, to get into an altercation or something, both people kind of need to be involved.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		And you don't have to be an asshole and say those things.
		And if you're going to be an asshole and say those things, you have to be aware that if you're also prominent and you own a fucking sports team, people are going to listen to what you say more so than somebody in a trailer saying the same thing on YouTube, right?
		Like if you post that in the YouTube comment section, you're not going to see a national uproar, especially if you're not that dude.
		But if you're a billionaire and you own a sports team and you're always in the public eye, even if you're old, that's not an excuse for saying racist shit.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You're absolutely right, and I agree with you 100%.
		But here's the but.
		You're looking at this guy and this guy is being recorded against his will.
		He has no idea he's being recorded.
		That's what he says.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		So you're in a Mel Gibson possible scenario there.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you're in a scenario where you're dating this girl and she, I don't know, did she blackmail you?
		I don't know what's going on.
		I have no idea what the story is, but I know that he did say he should have paid her off.
		That is what he said.
		That was one of his quotes, that he should have paid her off.
		And all this stuff comes out, and no one is saying that what she did is illegal.
		No one's freaking out.
		Everyone's paying attention to the fact that...
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		I think people are freaking out that he comes across as an asshole, too.
		I should have paid her off.
		You should have said sorry.
		Like, that to everybody is the kind of the character of the old billionaire who represents everything that the average working person kind of despises, right?
		This old white guy is saying this shit that really is insensitive at best.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		And I can, that's one of the situations where I can see that the media is just manipulating people and it's this like bullshit anger that we're being collectively drawn into.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		But at the same time, like, well, and the guy is kind of an asshole.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Like, there's not 100% culpability in either direction.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		It's just like what we've been talking about all day.
		It's the same thing.
		It's like, there's not black and whites in everything.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		But somebody like that, I give less leeway for sure.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Like somebody like that, less leeway than a private citizen.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Wait a minute.
		He's a private citizen.
		What do you mean?
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Billionaire and you own a sports team.
		You have to be aware that you have an influence when you say things.
		Whereas just some person on the sidewalk who says that, most people are going to be like, well, it's not my job to cast their business.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		See, I can't see a way to justify recording someone and playing what they said, no matter what it is, if it's not a crime.
		You know, if it's as mildly offensive as that, and it is offensive.
		But he's an old guy, and he's got this young girlfriend that he's trying to fuck.
		And we're supposed to, it's not a statement.
		He's not making an affidavit.
		He's trying to bang some chick, and he's telling her to please, I don't care if you fuck him, just don't take pictures with him, okay?
		And he's trying to get his freak on.
		She records that.
		I mean, that's exactly what happened.
		And that is exactly what he said happened.
		He thought it was a private conversation between the two of them.
		Is it despicable that he doesn't want her to take pictures with black guys because it makes him look bad?
		Yeah, it's not cool.
		But he does let her fuck him.
		I mean, that is a part of what he said, right?
		I mean, this isn't as simple as racism.
		He said, I don't care if you fuck them.
		Like, how racist is he?
		He's letting her fuck black guys.
		Well, that's a low-level racist for sure.
		And does he saying this in public?
		Is this a big, bold statement on Twitter like Anthony?
		No.
		No, he's in the confines of his own home and he's trying to get laid.
		And he was probably had a couple of drinks in him, too.
		You're going to hold the guy to that publicly?
		Yeah, is he an asshole?
unidentified		Yes.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But he's not trying to hurt feelings.
		He's not trying to spread hate.
		I mean, he's just trying to get laid.
		It seems to me that the intent of what you're saying, like the context and the intent are pretty critical when you release something like that and you get angry and fine someone for something like that.
		That was a knee-jerk reactionary response that they took.
		Regardless of whether the guy is an asshole, I've heard both ways.
		I've heard more that he is than he isn't.
		Who knows?
		I don't know.
		But I don't like it.
		I don't think it's cool.
		I don't think it's cool that you take this old asshole and do that to him.
		And I think he's going to wind up selling the Clippers for like a fucking trillion dollars.
		He's going to profit off of it anyway.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		And there's reports that he's just going crazy.
		And that's also taking something that, like you said, private in your own house.
		It should be 100% illegal.
		Like I shouldn't have to worry about you taking all my texts and all my stuff out of my phone and then putting it online.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		And why are you being fined $2.5 million if a crime wasn't committed?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		You're not the government.
		Why are you fining somebody that much money?
		It's one thing if it's like, we're going to dock your pay for a week.
		That's not Chump change.
		I understand he's a billionaire, but you're enforcing something with a lot of weight there.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I couldn't agree more.
		And I also think that it's a situation that merits a serious conversation.
		It merits a serious conversation about race, about context, about privacy.
		It merits that.
		What it doesn't merit is some guy giving some canned speech where he's got this righteous indignation in his voice.
		We are going to fine him the maximum amount.
		I mean, he's basically running for president or something.
		He's got that fake politician thing going on where he's giving this speech.
		Totally disingenuous.
		The whole thing's goofy.
		Like, you're going to, what?
		Are you not paying attention to the whole recording?
		Why are you focused on the one part?
		Don't take pictures of black guys.
		They're freaks.
		He's letting her fuck guys.
		Like, this is not a normal dude.
		And he's at home in his bedroom.
		Is this real?
		Is this a real world where you just find him two and a half million dollars from that?
		You guys are assholes.
		The whole thing is an asshole organization.
		What you should all do is sit down and have a conversation.
		Everybody sit down and you go, what happened here?
		And he gets a chance to say, well, I was hanging out with this chick and I buy her Ferraris and shit.
		I got a fat penthouse for her.
		She's my gumad.
		I got her on the side.
		But she fucks all the black guys.
		She takes pictures and my friends stick them in my face mocking me.
		So I told her, don't take pictures of black guys, please.
		Would you really freak out if someone said that?
		He'd be like, well, that's an unfortunate relationship for that poor old billionaire.
		And sort of an unfortunate, even more unfortunate relationship for that lovely young lady who has such low self-esteem that she needs this old man to pay for her sex and buy her things.
		And that's how she gets by by hustling.
		And in the meantime, she hangs out with all these black guys.
		Whatever, man.
		What do you give a fuck?
		This is goofy.
		This is a goofy thing for you to be taking up my CNN with.
		Over and over and over again, playing it back and forth, and the sorrow details of the Donald Sterling tapes emerge.
		He didn't want him.
		Come on.
		Come on.
		Silly.
		It's a non-issue.
		He's not an evil person.
		He's not Hitler.
		He didn't even say a racial slur.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		He said.
		North Korea, people are being sent to concentration camps.
		CNN has zero interest in really covering that, you know.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The depictions, the illustrated depictions, that that one guy who escaped from the camp, you've ever seen that one?
		The guy who escaped from the prison camp was showing the various stages.
		Brian, pull that up because you could see it.
		You could look at the actual images.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I don't think I've seen it, but sounds pretty cruz.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's going to freak you the fuck out.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's a guy who escaped from this, you know, essentially slave camp, the slave prison camp.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they had like hundreds of thousands of people there who were in straight-up concentration camps.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		People are born there, man.
		People are born in these camps.
		I mean, it's unbelievably heartbreaking when you hear these stories.
		One guy escaped and he had been, I think it's the same guy, he had been born there.
		He grew up there.
		He had no idea what life outside the camps was.
		And he started explaining all the various aspects of torture, what level of deterioration they would judge prisoners at.
		I mean, it's complete Nazi Germany type shit.
		And it's going on in 2014 right now.
		It's just like Nazi Germany stuff.
		I mean, I don't know how they single out the prisoners, what they're in there for, why they, is it political dissent?
		Is it crime?
		I don't know what it is.
		But they've, when they, once they've decided, this is the enemy, this is us, this is the good.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		So they don't have to do anything over there.
		He, I think, sent like all of his girlfriend's family, or his ex-girlfriend's family to one of the camps or some shit.
		It's crazy.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He did?
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Google like Kim Jong, whatever.
		I forget the guy's name.
		Kim Jong-un.
		Just Google that and like ex-girlfriend.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, God.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, I know he did that one.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Ex-girlfriend.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He killed his uncle, right?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He executed his uncle.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		He's a crazy dude.
		So that, anyway, my point with that is that shows you that the whole media moral equivalency thing is bullshit.
		They focus on things as if it's a moral outrage.
		And I'm like, yeah, I could see how this is offensive, but what about that?
		What about everything else happening in the world?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I don't know, man.
		I couldn't even imagine living in a place like North Korea.
		I mean, it's not even...
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Are you going to bring up whatever that thing is?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, Brian is trying to find it.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		As soon as he finds it.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		Is the search room to say that I'm not finding it?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Did you write North Korea escape pictures?
		North Korea escape pictures.
		He drew them all.
		it's really dark shit, man.
		He drew all these, uh, You know what I'm talking about?
		I didn't find it.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		I did that at once.
		I don't remember you.
		Oh, yeah.
unidentified		It's a prisoner.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		Right here, right?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's it.
		Yeah, Imanu escaped to North Korea prison.
		This is it.
		So this guy, he drew these depictions of how malnourished people would be and how they would treat them.
		How they would treat them based on what they weighed, what jobs he would give them, up until the moment when they died.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		That's some unreal stuff.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's insane.
		Like, look at this.
		This guy's killing babies.
unidentified		Jesus.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, dude, it's dark.
		And it's going on right now.
		I mean, it's confirmed.
		I mean, it's a scary place.
		When you know that the guy who's the head of Korea right now, someone was trying to make a coup against him.
		He had him assassinated, and he had his sons assassinated because he thought his sons would one day try to seek revenge.
		So he had his sons killed, and then he had his wife, and he gave his wife a raise.
		Yeah, he gave her like a better position in a raise.
		Like the whole situation is completely gangster.
		Could you imagine a guy kills your sons and then gives you some sort of a new job?
		Oh, okay.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Seems normal.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Well, they treat him almost as like a god, right?
		So it's a little bit different.
		They worship everything he does.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I think it's just straight fear, you know?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		That's probably part of it also.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Do you know that when his father died, if people didn't cry convincingly enough, they got like six-month terms?
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		2014.
		It's going on right now.
		Happening.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		That's completely crazy.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		I can't see why the Twitter storm can't focus on that asshole for a little bit, make his life difficult.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What can you do?
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Send him pizzas.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		How much?
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Bankrupt him until the U.S. invades him.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, the problem is they'll take it.
		They'll be fine.
		There's enough resources that they'll be fine.
		People will starve to death.
		I mean, look what they're doing to these people in these prisoner camps.
		It's fucking unbelievably terrifying shit, man, that that can happen.
		That the world can vary so much.
		That's what's scary.
		Because it gives us the possibility of that happening here.
		You start thinking, like, man.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's why I'm so against government overreach because it doesn't start all at once.
		And then at one point, that was a new thing for them.
		Like, oh, I guess we got this now, right?
		And then you grow up and that's just normalcy, even though it's completely insane to everybody else.
		That's what this surveillance stuff is, is complete insanity.
		And everybody in Europe is pissed off about it.
		And here, things have been kind of normalized.
		And it's like, well, it has kept us safe.
		And the new thing that came out, I think in the Washington Post or the Times, is about how nine out of 10 people that they're grabbing the photos and videos and stuff of are not even the targets.
		They're just people being incidentally sucked up.
		But when they say like, we're incidentally grabbing their data, it means like really intimate stuff.
		Like the video conversations that people have had with their partners are just being stored in databases.
		And that's the beginning of, and there was another report that they might be collecting baby photos.
		The NSA might be archiving people's baby photos.
		That's the beginning of not tomorrow, but maybe in 50 years for sure, some shit like that.
		Because that's how it starts, right?
		It's like you get to stage one.
		Maybe we don't even see stage two in our lifetimes.
		But to give people you don't know that kind of power is insane.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		And if things go bad, that's when you can justify stage two.
		Things are fine now, but look, what if a Katrina-type situation happened?
		One of the things that every leader, every great military leader knows is that you must capitalize on opportunities.
		And when a tragedy takes place, it's not just a tragedy, but it's also an opportunity for more control.
		And it's one of the things that classically people have done throughout time.
		And in U.S. history, it's very easy to map.
		And it's one of the reasons why conspiracy theories are so rampant when it comes to big crimes like Oklahoma City is because you see a ramp up of the laws afterwards and a lot of people think, well, this was a false flag event.
		It was used to justify the ramping off of the laws.
		And now they have more control.
		Whether or not it was or wasn't, the point being, every time there is some sort of an incident where things go bad, whoever is a power-hungry fuckhead tries to take more control, as if it would have protected them from that situation.
		Whether it's the Oklahoma thing, whether it's 9-11, if 9-11 was just an attack and it wasn't just some nefarious plot, I mean it was just some nefarious plot from some overseas people.
		It had nothing to do with the United States government.
		It doesn't matter.
		The United States government still capitalized on it.
		I think that they do.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		That's absolutely what I believe happened, by the way, is that there was not a it was not an inside job.
		It was an opportunistic thing afterwards where, oh, this fell in our lap.
		We're going to capitalize on it to the maximum amount possible, which is what they did.
		The neoconservatives under Bush got us into two wars that arguably we didn't need to be in at all.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What's a classic military tactic?
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and introduced all these laws that really, I think, shut down a lot of the innovation we're seeing now, like people speaking freely, podcasts, you know, TV shows where people are really speaking their minds.
		All that shit kind of went on ice during the Bush administration.
		Like, I hate to be like a Bush hater, but I noticed because I was in high school at the time during the Bush administration.
		I was in high school when 9-11 happened, and I noticed the kind of death of vitality.
		And people were afraid to be, you don't want to sound like an asshole, right?
		Like, everybody was for the Iraq war.
		And if you're like, I don't know, like, should we go in there?
		People just go, 9-11, have you forgotten?
		And they're like, I'm not sure how the two are connected, really.
		Like, I'm not sure why.
		And some people were saying the same thing, but the overriding thing was you don't want to be against the country at this important time.
		And that bullshit lasted for a decade where I'm sure a lot of terrible things happened that we don't even know about yet and might not know about for a while.
		And only now are we starting to see like kind of the flowering of independent thought That probably would have happened 10 fucking years ago if it weren't for 9-11 and if it weren't for that crackdown.
		Because we had the internet.
		We were on the path.
		And I feel like all this stuff now, podcasting, could have been in 2004.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It might have been, but the technology wasn't there yet.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		As far as the ability to broadcast broadband wasn't there yet.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		But just that movement of people speaking their minds would have started sooner.
		And there was fear.
		Like a lot of people were afraid and there were no fly lists.
		That was a serious thing for a while.
		People would say, oh, don't fuck around.
		You're getting on the no-fly list.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It was abused.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it was abused by people that they were going after consenting journalism or dissenting journalists.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Laura Poyatris, who did that New York Times story about William Benny, and she's done some other important stuff since then.
		She claims that every time she goes to an airport, she gets the full thing because they want to show her.
		We're keeping an eye on you.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, all they have to do is throw you on a list.
		The people that are working there, giving her the frisking, I mean, they're not showing her shit.
		They're just working.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Conveyor belt.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they're making X amount per hour.
		They're putting in their time, waiting for that buzzer to ring so they can get the fuck out of there.
		But someone, all they had to do is put her on a list.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's that conveyor belt idea of like once the order has been given, then it's somebody just doing their job.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		That's why so much bad stuff in the world is happening right now.
		Like this is what I research all day.
		I'm kind of obviously crazy, but the military.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to talk to you about that.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		The military-industrial complex is clearly real.
		It's a real thing.
		It's an economic force where people get employed by companies that pay them way more than they should be paid for what they're doing.
		So you get paid $200,000 to design the next drone.
		Any other job at your age, you'd be lucky to make $40,000.
		So you go into this new world where you don't really belong.
		And this is what happened to Snowden from what it seems like.
		This young guy gets into this world where he's making far more money than he would otherwise.
		All you have to do is buy in.
		All you have to do is, I can see this.
		I can see spying on everybody constantly because it is keeping us safe.
		And I'm making a lot of money.
		And if you're the drone designer, I can see this.
		So from your little perspective, it's not all that bad.
		And you branch out, you zoom out far enough and you see that we're a society that is basically run by an avatar government that starts or at least provokes wars for its own benefit and for very cynical reasons that have nothing to do with what they tell us on TV.
		And from there, you go, I can't stop the conveyor belt.
		Nobody can.
		You know, you can send out 10,000 retweets or a million petitions.
		That does not stop the conveyor belt because at the end of the day, that person who's doing whatever they're doing, spying on you or frisking you, they're like, well, I'm not going to be unemployed.
		Like, I understand what you're saying, Seaman, on the podcast.
		And I understand what the EFF says.
		I'm not going to sit at home without a paycheck.
		I'd rather just be sifting through people's emails.
		And obviously, most people make that choice.
		That's a problem with human nature, I guess, is people need money to pay their rent.
		And the only solution is to actually change that economic structure.
		Like, bye-bye, military-industrial complex.
		That's old paradigm shit.
		Country-to-country warfare is over.
		It's on its way out because we're starting to move toward a different kind of system.
		And it's cool for me to watch because it's actually happening.
		Like, what I'm talking about is not some thing out in the clouds.
		It's already well underway.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's a strange time in that their ability to do what they're doing, their ability to spy on people, their ability to influence people, their ability to have control over the populace with these tools of surveillance is coinciding with people's ability to communicate their being upset about it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		This is a weird time because in the 60s and 70s, when all that Watergate shit was going down, what voice did a regular person have?
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		You would just hope that the Washington Post would publish an op-ed you agree with, and that's pretty much the extent of your power.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		When Kennedy was assassinated, what happened?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		How did the people get their thoughts?
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Can you imagine if there was an Alex Jones back then with the real platform, how insane that would have been?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God.
		They would have killed him quick.
		If Alex Jones lived in 1963, they would have killed the shit out of him.
		Can you imagine?
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		There probably was about 20 Alex Jones at the time.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But what could they have done, though?
		That's the point.
		Like, Alex Jones has a radio show that he does on the internet.
		He has YouTube videos, a giant YouTube channel.
		He has a regular radio show.
		I mean, what could a guy have done in 1963?
		The answer is nothing.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		Ham radio.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but nobody's listening to that.
		A couple other assholes.
		I wonder if they did.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		How many people do you think we're...
		He'd be like, hey, you want to talk to somebody?
		And you'd be like talking, like, oh, they're in Russia now.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I knew one dude who did it, but that's it.
		One.
		I mean, it wasn't like it was like everybody had a radio in their house, right?
		Growing up, basically everybody had a TV.
		If you didn't have a TV, you were a weirdo.
		Bobby just family doesn't believe in TV.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		That's like people who don't have internet.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		If somebody says they don't have internet, I'm like, I don't understand that at all.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Why would you do that?
		Well, you know, I don't want to get caught up in it.
		How about growing some fucking discipline?
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		How about joining the human race?
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Like, if you don't have the internet, you don't know what's happening.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I don't know how to get online.
		Oh, you don't?
		Silly fuck.
		This is the time to voice your opinions on things.
		This is the time to speak up.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		And it's the time to see that this old thing is luckily ending.
		Like, I think some people are still caught up in the police brutality outrages that you see on the homepage of Reddit every day and that people are always tweeting.
		That stuff's real, and I understand why people are pissed, and I 100% think it's the right move to shame the shit out of those people and always have that fire going.
		But that's not the solution.
		The solution is that economics are gradually shifting away from the military-industrial thing, and we're shifting into a different economic model.
		And that will end this stuff.
		Like the spying and the drones and the police brutality, that's what ends it because you just don't have as many cops.
		And the cops you do have are more locally financed.
		And it's kind of the way it was in some kind of madman utopia that probably never existed, but was a hell of a lot better than what we have right now.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		What do you think is going to happen?
		Do you think, is this a war right now where technology and the access that the average person has to information is at odds with this gigantic Neolithic group of corporations that are sort of combining forces to try to slow down the internet?
		Is this a battle of good and evil?
		fucking internet control, net neutrality, and regulations.
		I want your ISP, you little fuck, give me your ISP number.
		Whether it's just stopping this tide, this transition.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		I don't even see it as good versus evil because then you fall into the outrage kind of thing.
		I just look at the data, and that's what I've tried to do with as many aspects of my life as possible.
		Emotion is fine, because after you see the data, you get emotional.
		That's 100% fine, but you shouldn't be deriving your conclusion from the emotion.
		And what I see is that a lot of this stuff is going to end just essentially by design.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		By design, meaning that as innovation increases, people are not going to tolerate it anymore.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		It'll be a lot more difficult.
		Better technologies take off.
		I mean, the reason why we're having this conversation is not because some Ben Franklin was like, within 200-something years, we will have podcasts.
		It's because gradual technological innovation comes along.
		And it took probably a million things before this to get to this point.
		And now that you're here, it doesn't take you any more effort to put out a podcast because it's all built.
		And it's the same thing with, if you look at the development of travel, people used to get around by foot.
		Then it was carriages, like Oregon Trail type shit, where if you had to go from New York to California, you might not make it.
		Now it's a flight that costs $250 and takes like five hours.
		And the same thing is happening with the economy, where we're getting away from old, kind of superstitious technology and entering the age of science.
		Like science is now being applied to economics and to money, and that's going to change some of the worst aspects of society.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		For sure?
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		For sure.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Like of anything I've researched, this is the one I'm most convinced will not come true, but is already happening around us.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What makes you so positive that it's going to happen?
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Again, because it already is.
		It's just in the early phases.
		Like if you look at the B word, you look at Bitcoin as an H. Did you just call it the B word?
		Yeah.
		Because I was debating whether to even talk about Bitcoin this time because people get so into it.
		It's because it's money.
		People get emotional about money.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Do you get into it in a negative way, you mean?
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		No, just I don't want to be known as the Bitcoin person because that's not the totality of me, right?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't think you should worry about that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Okay, well, you're not going to be the BitPoint.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		All right, good.
		I just don't want, because a couple people have said, like, you're a great advocate for Bitcoin.
		I'm like, I'm not trying to be.
		Like, I'm trying to report on an important shift in society, which, so anyway, Bitcoin is worth $8 billion.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Is it really?
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Four years, yeah, four years ago, it was worth nothing.
		Like, one guy traded 10,000 Bitcoins on a discussion forum in exchange for somebody to order him a pizza and pay for it.
		And now those 10,000 Bitcoins are worth like 6 point something million.
		So something is happening in society.
		Something's happening in society where we're saying like, oh, we can create money without governments doing it for us.
		And that's a very simple shift.
		It's not a big deal.
		People have already accepted it or else Bitcoin wouldn't be around.
		And if you take that little choice out to its logical conclusion, it's going to be a drastically different world in 10, 20, 30 years.
		It's going to be a different world in two years.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No doubt about it.
		I mean, I think that we're seeing this now where people are starting to get paid in Bitcoin.
		Like, who did, there was a story recently about someone getting paid in Bitcoin.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Well, John Fitch got paid in Nautilus Coin, which is an altcoin.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And he got paid in that for his last fight, right?
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Nautilus Coin.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		He got paid, I think it was $20,000 Nautilus Coin, and then some people contributed on top of that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		And it ended up on NBC.
		Like this weekend's fight, he was wearing boxers that had their logo all over it.
		And that was done completely over the internet.
		I watched the deal go down on Twitter because he and Brian Kelly interacted publicly.
		And that's pretty cool because if you think about like what do we use money for, one of the things is sponsoring events.
		Like banks own stadiums.
		That's going to change.
		It's going to be Bitcoin Stadium and DoggyCoin, whatever.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Is it Dogecoin or DoggyCoin?
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		I've tried both and I get called out either way.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		I prefer to say Dogecoin because it sounds a little bit more sophisticated.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Than Doggy Coin.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What does it stand for?
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		It's an internet meme, that dog with the stupid face, the Shiba, whatever that breed is.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		So famous.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Shibu Inu?
		Yeah.
		Is that a Shibu Inu?
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he's got the meme.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		You just put so in front of anything you want to say, basically.
unidentified		Like, so rich, so wow, you know, such low.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So that's where Dogecoin came from?
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it emerged as a novelty coin and then got so much transaction volume that people started, some people started to take it seriously.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's so strange when something like that happens, isn't it?
		It's like, what makes a Bitcoin just take off?
		Other than the great design.
		But what makes a Bitcoin?
		What makes a Dogecoin?
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		What makes it so exciting about Bitcoin?
		That's what it is human psychology.
		Like, that's the reason why the $50 bill in your pocket is a $50 bill and not a sheet of paper.
		It's purely psychology.
		You see the pyramid on the back.
		You see the dude on the front.
		That's money to you.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Totally.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Enough people around the world have said that, you know, Bitcoin and even some people have said that Dogecoin.
		They're like, you know what?
		This is money to me.
		I understand that it took somebody time to make and that it can't be counterfeit.
		Those are really the two biggest properties of any of these coins is they're hard to make and you can't counterfeit them, period.
		So when you get that thing going, you trade it back and forth over time.
		Some people lose their password.
		So over time, the amount is reducing.
		I'm talking about Bitcoin, not Dogecoin, because there are too many Dogecoins.
		But Bitcoin, you're using it constantly.
		So the amount is being reduced over time just through usage.
		But unlike a government currency where people know that more money will be printed, this is the opposite.
		We know that only so much is going to be printed over time, and then that's it ever.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So fascinating.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		And so what might happen is some kind of weird feeding frenzy where everybody gets into it at once because increasing values create one of the strongest network effects that we know of as people.
		Like you think about how fast Facebook took off.
		That was just people like, oh, it's cool that I can casually spy on my friends that I'm in class with.
		This is, oh, I now have complete control over my own money and it's appreciating, you know, at a certain rate that beats anything that a traditional bank can offer.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The problem is that these things come and go So frequently, that people don't want to dip their fingers or their feet in the water thinking that it might be the next AOL.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You know, it might be the first one.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Maybe the first one, and then they really get it locked down.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		We all agree to a Elda coin or whatever the fuck we're going to call it.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You know, five years from now or two years from now.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to share my strategy, and I absolutely do not want anybody to think that this is what you should do.
		This is just what I've done so people can understand.
		This is what I believe is a good thing to do for me, not for anybody else.
		I agree with you 100%.
		I'm only convinced that this currency thing will take off.
		I'm not even 100% convinced that Bitcoin will make it because the Bitcoin Foundation has been doing some really stupid, fucked up things.
unidentified		Really?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like what?
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Well, they appointed a guy who has a really checkered past, and I feel like should not have been a part of that organization.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But do you mind saying, like, what is his checkered past?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like, when you say checkered past.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		You can Google it.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		It's too serious that I don't even want to say it, but it's bad allegations.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Violent stuff?
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Like molestation type stuff.
		And I think if you Google this, it might be public.
		It doesn't really matter.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It might be now.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, the point is that foundation I feel like has made some bad moves.
		And aside from that, it's the first one.
		So if you look at like CompuServe, they probably won a lot of battles.
		We're not using fucking CompuServe to connect to the internet.
		So I'm only convinced that the technology will win, not that Bitcoin will win.
		So what I do is I own a little bit of Bitcoin.
		And again, I'm not rich, so this is like reasonable person money.
		I own a little bit of Bitcoin, and I also own a little bit of the three or four currencies after Bitcoin that show the most promise.
		And I own enough of each one that should they come in and become the next Bitcoin or the next Litecoin, I'll be really satisfied.
		But if they don't come in, it's not the end of the world.
		And what I'm doing is when one currency doesn't do anything new for two months or something better comes out, I shift the money into that one.
		So my idea is however long this process takes of us going digital to new kinds of money, which is happening, I'll be in at least one of the ones that does well.
		And we'll just try to keep, I think at this point, there are already mature brands that will take off.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Do you ever see a point where, you know how you go to the airport and you see the government currency exchange where it's like Australian dollars, Mexican pesos, and it has all the thing, like what the rates are, you know, those things they have at the airport where you can exchange your money.
		Do you ever think it's going to come a point where there's so many accepted currencies that we have that on everything?
		Like this is what every price is, like it's worth this much of that.
		And it's a fluctuating thing.
		It's on a, like a, like, you know, some sort of a stock market, sort of a ticker tape type of thing where it fluctuates, because it does fluctuate on a daily basis.
		I have some Bitcoin.
		It's interesting to watch it go up and down.
		Sometimes it's a big jump and sometimes it's a big drop.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		What you just mentioned already exists, basically.
		Like the alt market will blow your mind.
		If you go on, you can bring up.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It'll blow the mind as far as your ability to purchase things?
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		No, just how many currencies are trading against each other.
		It really is exactly like that foreign exchange board at the airport, except way more complex.
		If you go on Mint Pal, there are a range of currencies that you probably and I have not even heard of.
unidentified		Wow.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		And they're trading against Bitcoin and in some cases trading against other currencies.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Like there are currencies now that don't even really trade against Bitcoin because they're like two steps removed from that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		How would it be possible that all these could exist and you could purchase items from it with them rather?
		Like say if you wanted to get a case of this delicious C2O coconut oil.
		This is not a paid sponsor.
		This is not a plug.
		This is not like an unfair plug that I put in there.
		But if you wanted to buy a case of this, and would they have to have like a bunch of different, like it's worth two Dogecoins.
		It's worth 1.9 Bitcoin.
		You know what I mean?
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		It'd be a program.
		Could you have a currency exchange program?
		It would be a currency exchange program.
		So it'd probably one program that just kind of did all the math for it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right, like an app.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So you would have to, everybody that works in a store, like you'd have to run a price.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Well, what's interesting is since this is software and not government-issued currencies, this stuff can happen instantly.
		You don't need to be like, oh, we need to check in with the government of Argentina and make sure they're cool with this.
		It just happens immediately.
		So there are already services being built that are pretty much what you're thinking of.
		Like they want to work on universal wallets where you don't have to think about what currency you're sending.
		You're just sending somebody value.
		So if I want to send you $10 worth of internet value, I could do it.
		I don't have to even know what currency it is as long as it's a mutually agreed amount of money.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		It could be a mutually agreed upon number.
		Like instead of saying this is 100 bitcoins, it could just be this is 100.
		Well, 100 in Bitcoin is 98.
		100 in Dogecoin is 101.
		You know what I mean?
		Like whatever the number is, the value number, you enter it into an app and it'll read out what it is in whatever currency you choose to use.
		And since it's all going to be done online and it's all sort of, you know, in hard drives and in space, you could kind of like have as many of them as you wanted.
		It's not like if you had a cash register and you're at a store and some asshole comes in with Canadian money and he wants Australian change, you're like, bitch, get the fuck out of here.
unidentified		You're crazy.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't have Australian money.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But if you are digitally connected and you service 20 major coin, you know, whatever you would call them, programs, what would you call them?
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		People call them currencies.
		I think actually, I mean, it's more software than currency, but everybody calls it a currency.
		And if you look at Hollywood Boulevard, they have some of those foreign exchange stands also.
		There are a couple of stores you walk in, you trade your, if you're a Chinese tourist, you trade your won for U.S. dollars, then you can shop at, you know, the shops there.
		That step is going to go away, not just on Hollywood Boulevard, all over the world.
		Think about how cool that is, that now you can travel to any country, walk into their malls, and just pay with a mutually agreed upon currency.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It seems inevitable, doesn't it?
		sort of like we looked at the internet in 1993, is like, wow, this is kind of a cool thing that you're...
		It was the internet because it was going through the line, the phone line.
		It was just a shitty version of the TV that couldn't play movies.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		And that's what's happening now.
		Some of these people are weirdos.
		Some of this stuff, you're like, Dogecoin, what the fuck is this?
		But out of that, you're starting to see the very beginnings of one of the companies I've been covering is a company that does this legitimately as a product.
		They have, I think, 16 or 17 employees, And they build currencies.
		That's what they do.
		They build currencies.
		And if they haven't built it, they find ones that are taking off and support them and mine them and make money off of them.
		And so you're starting to see like a more professional kind of environment where there's still a lot of experimentation, but it's starting to be like this is serious business.
		And I think it was Citibank said that digital currency by 2020 is going to be like a $10 trillion industry or something insane.
		And we got to get from here to there.
		And we're already at the year 2014.
		So a lot of money gets made over the next six years.
		A lot of money gets lost.
		And a lot of new stuff gets created that we can't even think of yet.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I totally could see it.
		I totally could see it.
		It seems like the people that are all hedging their bets now, it's almost like they know something's going to happen.
		Like they see this bubbling on the surface, like a volcano is about to erupt, but they can't figure out which, where's the mainstream going to come out of?
		Is it going to be here?
		Is it going to be here?
		This is the next internet.
		This is the next thing.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		It absolutely is.
		It's going to be fucked.
		I think by now, people who listen to your show sort of know my track record.
		I wasn't wrong about drones.
		I wasn't wrong about the NSA, really.
		And this one.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You're on about a lot of shit.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		This is going to be big.
		And it's what's called a black swan event.
		And people aren't familiar.
		Black Swan event is the thing like the financial crisis in 08 that takes everybody by surprise and changes everything.
		And this is the same deal.
		It's like now we have an airplane before we didn't.
		What do we do with this airplane?
		Oh, let's start.
		Let's try to fly to London.
		And before you know it, you have commercial airflight.
		That's what's going to happen here is people are experimenting.
		And before you know it, there's no more Euro dollar.
		There's just Bitcoin and whatever else we agree as a people, as a species, is money.
		And here's where it gets really cool.
		And then I'll shut up about this.
		But somebody on the Reddit Bitcoin category, their subreddit, posted this thing about how if you really think about what's happening, people are making money from these coins because they have to mine them, which takes energy.
		Your utility bill goes up when you're mining these coins.
		You notice the difference.
		And so what people are doing, regardless of language, is deciding that I can transfer some of my energy for money, for actual money that I can use to buy anything else in this physical world.
		So now you have a globally competitive market for energy that'll be created as a result.
		You'll have entrepreneurs who aren't interested in creating coins.
		They're interested in how do I get energy as cheaply as possible.
		So you'll see solar fields in the deserts in Africa maybe to fuel a mine for a cryptocurrency.
		So what it's going to do is incentivize a lot of us to find cheaper energy no matter what.
		So you're going to see all this innovation where the energy industry has to get cheaper and cheaper because we have to continue mining these currencies.
unidentified		Fuck.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Which is pretty crazy to think about.
		So it's a technology that by design is going to make us, I'm using all these bullshit terms, like better, but we're going to care more about cheap energy than we do now, which I see as a good thing.
		And we're going to care more about what does my purchasing power mean?
		Did I really agree that this has value?
		That's what's so cool about all this stuff is that nobody's forcing anybody to do anything.
		It's all voluntary.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And it's all happening while marijuana is becoming illegal or becoming legal, rather.
		It's all happening while marijuana is legal in Colorado.
		I just tweeted something today about the statistics from Colorado that they're getting back from, as far as crime and revenue, more revenue than ever before, more revenue than even projected, and less crime.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Yep, because you were locking up poor tourists and college kids, and now it's no longer a crime, so you're making money off of them.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Shitloads of money.
		And New York legalized it.
		Brian, can you talk about this?
		Because I got a piece.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, New York today legalized medical marijuana.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		It's become the latest state to permit this use Monday.
unidentified		That's sad.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		Hey, I found that video, though, that you were talking about earlier about you come at me, bro.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
		It's Do You Even Lift, Bro?
		Is that the one?
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Even Lift, Bro.
		It looked funny.
		Let's see what this is.
		But I don't know the medical marijuana thing, though, in New York is, I don't think it's like legit medical marijuana.
		It's probably not going to be like the California.
		Right.
		I just got my license renewed yesterday, and it was the first time where it actually was a little bit harder than normal.
		And I don't know if it was just the doctor, because the doctor was like this old doctor, and you walk in, and he goes, all right, why do you need medical marijuana?
		I used to be able to just say, it eases me with stress.
		It helps me go to sleep at night.
		It helps me eat.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		And what's funny is those things are true.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Like, you would probably be taking Xanax or a sleeping pill if you weren't using weeds.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		When people say, like, oh, I'm a medical marijuana patient, like, it actually is medicine.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		But he came at me like, that's not a medical reason.
		And I'm like, well, I use it to sleep.
		That's not a medical reason.
		I get it for stress.
		That's not a medical reason.
		Then I finally said headache.
		He goes, all right, that's a medical reason.
		And then he like signed a paper.
		But my friend that I was with.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		This guy sounds like the Gran Torino of this.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it was weird.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Why would you do that?
		Why would you go to that guy?
		Go to Eidelman.
		Why would you go anywhere else?
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		A lot of money.
unidentified		Jesus Christ, you're cheap, bitch.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He's, you know, he went to jail, though.
		He gets my props because he went to jail.
		He was like one of the pioneers.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but 200 20 versus 200.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's less than that, but I know what you're saying.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But that's what you get, you get some fucking I'm not scared.
unidentified		If I'm going to jail for a joint, then...
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's been decriminalized in California for a long time.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		I know.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Arnold Schwarzenegger decriminalized it.
		The worst you can get is like a ticket.
		You get like a ticket if they catch you smoking it.
		When was the last time you heard of anything?
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		You're right to point out the legalization thing because that's happening simultaneously and is every bit as important.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yes, because it's creating entrepreneurs and creating revenue by people that smoke pot.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's a completely different ethic.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		And even Amber Lyon, our mutual friend, has committed pretty much her professional time right now to promoting this idea of medical uses for psychedelics, which was recently in Slate.
		It seems like the whole kind of mainstream consciousness is coming around to this idea that, well, shit, if it works, and we're starting to have that attitude towards everything.
		Bitcoin sounds crazy, but if it works and the fees are lower, why not?
		And it's the same with this.
		If people can be more relaxed and maybe have some personal insights, why not?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		We should give out Amber's websites, reset.me, reset.me, and it's a new website that she created entirely Based on the idea of resetting consciousness through psychedelics and all the latest research and news on psychedelics.
		She wants it to be like the Huffington Post for psychedelics.
		She went hog wild.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		I found that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That bitch went full-on hog.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		She went full hog.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		She found that video that he was talking about earlier: that do you even lift bro?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Okay, hold on a second.
		I want to talk about Amber because this new website is very important for her.
		She kind of was really, she talked about it on the podcast.
		She was really down the dumps and very bummed out about her situation, leaving CNN and decided to just take a trip down to the jungle and went to the.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		She was working in the factory and finally saw how the sausage was made.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		And for, I mean, I used to, I still consider myself a journalist, and it is a depressing moment when you realize like, this is fucked.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but you don't work for anybody, do you?
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		No, I don't work for anybody.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's the best kind of journalist.
		You know?
		I mean, the best kind of journalist is the kind of journalist that just saw that from within CNN.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		I just see that from outside.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		I'm like oh these people are all fucked up but she got to see that from the inside Well, fascinating, but also depressing, because how hard do you have to work to get to CNN?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, very hard.
		I mean, look, and if they find out you're not playing ball, a lot of people have these idealized visions of what they're going to be able to accomplish as a journalist.
		You know, I'm going to be the next guy who breaks the big story, the next girl who takes down the evil regime.
		And then you get over and you film the evil regime and you have all this evidence and you risk your life and it gets really crazy and hairy.
		And you get back to the States and they put out an info piece, like an infotainment, infomercial piece on the city.
		And you're like, whoa, how come you didn't have the sniper footage?
		Where's the sniper footage?
		Where's the people dying?
		Where's the, like, what are you guys doing here?
		What's going on here?
		You just made a fluff piece.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		We have the best Starbucks of anywhere in the Middle East.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Her news site is great, though.
		She spent a lot of time on it and a lot of effort.
		So just to check it out for something that's interesting, go to reset.me.
		Lots of cool stuff on there, too.
		Like I said, she wants it to be the Huffington Post of Psychedelics.
		So what were you saying about the Do You Lift Bro?
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		Just from that video that we had brought up earlier that we were going to talk about.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		He does pranking, I guess.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		With big giant people, ask them if they lift.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		I don't know why it is.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Is this old or new?
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		It's like a year or two old.
		Surprised you guys haven't seen it.
		But he does new stuff.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		This is him.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He's going up to my world why I want to take a picture of my arm.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Because it's the skinniest thing I've ever seen in my life.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Bro, you got to start lifting, man.
unidentified		You're getting yourself into a heap of hurt, my friend.
		What is that supposed to mean?
		You're about to get yourself into a world of help, my friend.
		Oh, yeah.
		Really?
		Yeah.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Lift up your glasses.
unidentified		Oh, yeah?
		Uh-oh.
		What are you doing?
		You're calling me out in the middle of the fucking...
		You're calling me out for being small in the middle of the fucking courtyard here.
		I am?
		You do it.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		What do you mean, what am I doing?
unidentified		You must be looking to get punched in the face.
		Well, if you punch me, I'm gonna go.
		Which cheek?
		Yo, do you guys need a number of the gym?
		Good.
		You sure?
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		I was just looking at you guys need to start lifting.
		I bet you if we go in the gym, I'll lift you.
		Are you sure about that?
		Guaranteed.
		Let's go.
		Let's do it.
		Let's do it.
		I gotta get on the bike, too.
		Mike got a black five.
		I'm pushing this motherfucker.
		You pushing?
		I'm pushing.
		No, well, if you can lift, you better put it over your shoulder and walk with it.
		Easy work.
		Alright, let's go.
		Light bike.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		This one that you see all that.
unidentified		185?
		185 for what?
		What do you want to do with it?
		Press.
		How many times do you want to do it?
		Five.
		Is it?
		That's it.
		I was expecting a number somewhere around 30.
		Oh, shit.
		No, man.
		I play college football.
		I'm trying to go to the league.
		I put up 225 at least 15 times right now.
		Awesome, bro.
		What you want to do?
		Well, I'm telling you.
		You got way less than you do, too.
		I say, let's go, but it's not going.
		I'm going to make some money.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		I'll be back.
unidentified		I'll make some money.
		What's up, bro?
		Do you even lift?
		What?
		Do you even lift, bro?
		Yeah.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you look on that skinnelicious man.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		You're the girl's bigger than you.
unidentified		Better start lifting.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That guy's pretty cool, bro.
unidentified		Yeah.
		Excuse me?
		Yeah.
		Oh, was this?
		Alright.
		Do you even lift?
		Do I lift?
		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So that's where this Do you even lift, bro, meme comes from?
		Okay, now I get it.
		I just thought it was people being silly online.
		I didn't know that there was a video that it originated from.
		That makes sense.
unidentified		With a what?
		SpongeBob Squaresman.
		That's true.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		SpongeBob Squares.
unidentified		What are you saying I got shit on the floor?
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		What do you mean?
unidentified		What are you saying?
		Try to look like a big shot, so.
		What do you mean I try to look like a big shot?
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		What are you talking about?
unidentified		You just walk into my car.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		You're the one trying to look like a big shot.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That guy's lucky he didn't get beat up.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		I know.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Why do people think that's funny?
		It is kind of funny.
		Do you even lift, bro?
		It's a funny thing to say to people, but man, this guy's getting close to getting fucked up on a regular basis.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		That's what people like, I think, is that I don't get hit.
		I think it's real.
		I don't think he stages these beforehand.
		And I just think it's fun to watch people do uncomfortable things.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that guy just reached out his hand.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, wow, that's interesting.
		Well, this is one of the things we're talking about with the Opi and Anthony thing, like how different people handle different situations.
		Look how differently people handled him.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		The guy who shook his hand, that'd probably be me.
		If somebody said, why don't you lift?
		He'd be like, whatever.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But isn't it interesting how different people handle different situations in a completely different thing?
		And you could be different every day.
		The way you handle one situation, like if that guy came up to you today or if that guy came up to you immediately after the DMV, four hours of the day.
		Anything fucked up.
		Anything wrong.
		Fight with a girl.
		Fight with a guy.
		Fight with a mom.
		Fight with a dad.
		Fight with a boss.
		Whatever it is.
		Traffic, bullshit, flat tire.
		Someone stole your laptop.
		Fuck you.
		Fuck you.
		I don't lift.
		Fucking asshole.
		You know?
		It depends entirely on where you're at.
		That is a problem with human beings.
		We're not ready.
		Somebody beat his ass?
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		This guy gets it.
unidentified		You're going to hit me?
		If you say it again, I will.
		Oh, yeah?
		Yeah.
		Really?
		You want to get a battery charge?
		Do it again.
		How dare you?
		Well, do what?
		Say it again.
		Say what again?
		Say it again.
		I poop my pants.
		I'm sorry.
		That's what I thought.
		You guys even lift.
		Small chicken legs.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Call the guy a chicken leg.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		I'm using your reaction.
unidentified		All right.
		All right.
		Thanks, bro.
		That was good.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		That's cool.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Are you being pranked?
unidentified		This is the even lift prank.
unidentified		Is that cool for using your reaction?
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		Your reaction was priceless, bro.
unidentified		Thanks, bro.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		Awesome.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's actually kind of fun.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I'm glad he does that, at least.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		I love how much I love how much shit you can do to somebody as long as afterwards, like, hey man, this is going on YouTube.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, people are like, I'm going to be famous as fuck for telling you I'm going to kick your ass.
unidentified		Silly.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But you can get in trouble, man.
		People don't know they're being pranked.
		They might fucking hit you.
		They might hit you because you seem crazy.
		Seem like a crazy person.
		Coming up to them, starting shit for no reason.
		They don't know you.
		You might be nuts, man.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		And it might make it worse that you're videotaping him.
		Look at all these videos that we've been showing lately.
		People just freak out when they're getting videotaped.
		They don't give a shit if it's a joke or not.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, that chick that was hitting that dude, if he's telling the truth.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		Oh, he fucking.
		By the way, Jamie just showed me on Gawker right now, there's a whole story where they interviewed him, the guy, and he's completely wrote it out exactly what happened, what happened after.
		He thought he was still recording, but when she hit his camera, it turned it off, and he thought he was still recording.
		It scratched it also.
		And then they said that they were going to go call Pat, and Pat was going to take care of all this.
		And so they went to the car.
		And so he was like, what the hell?
		And so he sent his girlfriend, who was back at the house.
		I guess he was gone for like an hour, sent a video, and they called the police and everything, but they were gone.
		But yeah, it's written all out, though.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He sent his girlfriend the video?
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So just in case if they took his phone, like that kind of shit?
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		Well, he just wanted to show, like, look what happened.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		Like, look what's going on right now.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What a strange world we live in.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		When you send a video over their phone through the cellular network, isn't it shitty and compressed, though?
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		No, not anymore.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		It used to be.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't know about that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I just got one the other day, and it definitely wasn't perfect.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		Was it iPhone to iPhone?
unidentified		Yeah.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it should be fine.
		Unless it's over, I think, two minutes, then it might start compressing it.
		But normal videos, like, you know, like a minute clip or whatever is usually fine.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Eddie Bravo sent me a video of me getting out of that tank, that crazy frozen 240-degree below-zero tank, and it looks like shit.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		I do know if you cross-platform it, a lot of times it will be compressed.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Same platform.
		He has an iPhone.
		I have an iPhone.
		He sent it to me.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		I saw that on your Twitter, by the way.
		What is that about?
		The 240-degree thing?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What happens is you go into this thing for two minutes, and what happens is your body thinks you just got dropped off at the top of the world.
		240 degrees below zero is insanely cold.
		And you do it for two minutes, and your body rushes all your blood to the surface of your skin to try to heat it up because it's freaking out.
		It can't believe how cold it is.
		And then when you get out after two minutes, it realizes like, oh, this is like a normal temperature.
		And everything relaxes.
		And the idea is it flushes out inflammation.
		It's incredibly efficient at like if you have injuries and inflammation, incredibly efficient at reducing it.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Did it help you?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Fuck yeah, it's great.
		It makes you feel good, too.
		It's really crazy.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Is it painful while you're actually in the negative 240?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		No?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's just weird.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		It's too cold to even care.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's quick.
		You know, because it's so quick, Brian, I'm going to send it to you.
		See if you can throw it up.
		Or should I send it to you, Jamie?
		Which one's on the bottom?
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Is this an expensive thing or is this something that could be in malls in a couple years?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it's expensive as fuck.
		It's expensive to have one of those.
		That's what it's expensive.
		But to use it, I'm not sure.
		I don't think it's that much.
		I don't remember, quite honest with you.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Sounds like a cool idea.
		I mean, it sounds like the kind of polar opposite of why people go to saunas.
		Get all the, you know, expand your skin and whatnot and get toxins out.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		In some ways, in some ways, it's kind of the opposite, but in other ways, it's just another way to get your body to do things that are, you know, better than just resting.
		You know, the sauna picks up your growth hormone.
		It picks up, like, Dr. Rhonda Patrick wrote a whole piece on the benefits of the sauna.
		Apparently, sauna has like some, like, that hyperheating environment, like the hot air for short periods of time, has a pretty significant effects on recovery and the body.
		So the Russians had it right all along, man.
		Have you seen that thing they do called the banya?
		Yeah, they had it right all along.
		They would do these hot, cold baths.
		They would go back and forth.
		They would do this banya thing where they go to this sauna and they slap sticks on each other.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, yeah.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		I saw a vice video about that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's pretty fucking cool.
		I'll email to you, Brian.
		Should I email to you, Jamie?
		I'll email to you.
		Brian?
unidentified		Okay.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Okay, what is it, Brian?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Hold on.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		You know what it is.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'm just trying to find here.
		Alright, it's on its way to you.
		What were we talking about?
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Cool shit.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Cool shit happening.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No, what was...
		What was the subject that we were just talking about before the video?
		Yeah, before this thing.
unidentified		I'm sending it to him.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Before that, I was just going on my ramble about how Bitcoin's going to change everything.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No, I had a point about this fucking tank thing, and I forgot it now.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I was asking about the price, and you were saying that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I'm not sure.
		The place that I went to is in Hollywood.
		I don't know how much it cost.
		I should look it up.
		I should look it up because it's a good spot.
		But athletes are using it.
		Kobe Bryant was like one of the first guys to bring it back from Europe.
		In Europe, they've figured out quicker than America, and America's onto it now, that inflammation is one of the huge causes of all sorts of ailments in the body.
		Physical injuries, sicknesses, inflammation from your diet, inflammation from exercise, strain, stress, all sorts of different things that cause your body to have inflammation that fucks up a lot of systems of the body.
		And for recovery, reducing inflammation is really critical.
		They used to do these ice baths where guys would go into like a tub, like this big steel tub, and they would just pour buckets of ice in there and cold water and you would sit submerged inside this thing.
		And they would do a similar version of it, but it took far longer.
		It wasn't nearly as effective.
		And they figured out how to do this one, which is really, I mean, it's just really not that painful.
		It's interesting.
		It's weird.
		You do it and you get out of there like, whoa, like, whoo, you know, like your whole body's like it just feels like as soon as you warm up, everything just like because it's only two minutes, everything just free flows, and it feels like you have like extra blood pumping through your body or something.
		You feel like you just got this charge of energy.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		That sounds cool, it's really cool.
		I'm gonna look into that just out of curiosity because I do infrared saunas, and I get you feel good for the rest of that whole day.
		If you do the sauna at like 3 or 4 p.m., the rest of the day you're a little bit lighter, a little bit friendlier, and like everything's nicer.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, massage is great for that, too.
		Yeah, there's also cryo healthcare.
		That's the name of the place.
		How much does it cost?
unidentified		Does it say?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It has a store.
unidentified		Let's find out how much it costs.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But it's something that they figured out, like a lot of different things.
		They figured out in Europe.
		There it is.
		That's me coming out of it right now.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that shouldn't be that compressed.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		That's not even a long video.
unidentified		That was awesome.
unidentified		That was only two minutes.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Another minute.
unidentified		Can we get onto the game?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I like the breathing.
unidentified		It's like the breathe.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The breathing was really weird.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		What's up, bro?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It was awesome.
unidentified		Wow.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That was incredible.
		It's crazy how hard it is to breathe in there.
		That's the weird thing.
unidentified		When you breathe, you have, it's like a labored breath, you know?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's it.
		That's the video.
		But I'm going to do it all the time now.
		I can't wait to do it again.
		They have them all over the place.
		Ian McCrawl does it every day.
		He's one of the fighters for the UFC's Flyweight Division.
		One of the best in the world.
		He does it every day.
		He's doing that cryotherapy shit.
		He went up to 263 degrees below zero because he's an extremist.
		He does like three minutes and 20 seconds, something fucking ridiculous.
		The longest anyone's ever done, the coldest anyone's ever done.
		That's kind of a good thing.
unidentified		Any negatives?
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		Any negatives?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No, not to me.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't know what happens with other folks.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		You turn into sub-zero.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		You start freezing other people.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They start you off slow, though.
		There's many, many articles on cryotherapy, though.
		Both cryotherapy applied to sports and athletic performance, cryotherapy applied to injury and recovery.
		There's a bunch of different things you could do now.
		It's interesting.
		There's a thing called the hyperbaric chamber.
		There's that, that aids in recovery and oxygen utilization, healing of the body.
		Like guys who have injuries, like Uriah Faber, he had a bunch of contusions on his leg from his fight.
		He got leg kicked a lot.
		His leg was fucked up and swollen.
		And he went in that hyperbaric chamber.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		That helps him.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it helps him with his hands too.
		He's getting his hands healed after he broke them.
		He went to the hyperbaric chamber.
		It's pretty incredible.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Cool.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they have some amazing shit now.
		We're just a few years away from creating bulletproof immortal people.
		I mean, we're maybe like 100.
		Like, if we live to be 100 years more, if human beings don't blow each other up, they're going to have bulletproof skin.
		They're going to have organs that never tire.
		They're going to have a genetic code that just never drops off.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		I think we're less than 100 years away from an actual FTL drive.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		If it can be built, I think it'll be built in the next 100 years.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		FTL?
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, faster than light.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Really?
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		NASA came out with that.
		It was just a media stunt.
		It was like a computer-generated image of what an FTL starship might look like.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I saw that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the warp drive thing?
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the warp drive thing.
		And I think if it's going to happen, again, assuming we don't all kill each other, it'll happen in the next hundred years.
		Because the technology is at the point where we could get there eventually.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		How do you say that?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What could give you any indication that they'll be able to surpass the speed of light?
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		It seems like an energy problem.
		And I don't even know what kind of advances are going to happen in energy just within our lifetime.
		So I don't want to pretend I'm the FTL drive expert, but that scientist who's working on it came up with some kind of innovation where it would require far less energy than they originally thought to do this warp of the space-time fabric or whatever the fuck it does.
		And the fact that he figured that out means that now they can work on a proof of concept.
		They can do a very small version in a laboratory one day.
		And once they have that, that's all you need to get industry interested.
		You know, like, why should we build a faster-than-light spacecraft?
		It's kind of a self-explanatory thing.
		Like, cool as shit.
		You can get resources anywhere in the galaxy.
		Of course, people are going to try to build it if it becomes reasonable.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's interesting if you look back on 1940, what was it, 45 when the atomic bomb was first detonated and think about 1945 to today, how long that is, 70 plus years.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		I mean, think about how primitive our technology was back then.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		They had the stupid radios, the tube radios that would get like two channels, and they built a nuclear bomb.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No kidding, right?
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		And now we have smartphones that are so good.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I was thinking about how the year 2000, I had a palm pilot, and I was really psyched about it because it was the best you could have.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I have an ambiguity.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		It had a pop-up antenna.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I had the hard antenna, the nub.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		I had the one that it would come up like you would pull it up.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You went old school.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		If you were very lucky and all the stars were aligned, you could send an email on a shitty little keyboard.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		And you pay like $70 a month for the data plan for like 500 kilobytes or something.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I enjoyed my PomPilot.
		I felt like I had a computer with me.
		I was being fucking real.
		I was on the ball.
		I was on the technology ball.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		But compare that to today, and that's only 14 years.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Amazing.
		You know what amazes me the most still to this day?
		Shazam.
		That app that you can, like you hear a song, you just press that and do it.
		Dude, I did it the other day.
		It was loud as fuck in this restaurant, and this song was playing, and I was like, that song is cool.
		What the fuck is that song?
		And I was like, this ain't going to work.
		Perfect.
		Instantly.
		The app gets better all the time, too.
		That app, whatever they've done to it, maybe it's the new processing power of the new phones.
		Because as the phones get more powerful, more resources are available for these apps to figure things out like that.
		I don't know how it does it.
		I don't understand how it works.
		But it's incredible what we can do now.
		Incredible.
		The heart rate monitors that work off of the flash on the back of the phone.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's insane.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		That's pretty cool.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Put your finger over the camera.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		I even use the 10,000 steps thing that the Samsung has where it tells you when you've hit 10,000 steps in a day.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Really?
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		I try to hit that because it's just good.
		Like if I look down and it's 8 p.m. and it says only 6,000 steps, I'm like, oh, I'll just go walk to the LA River is kind of close to where I live.
		It's like I'll just walk down there and back because I know it's about 4,000 steps.
		I do that, and then I feel like I've hit my quota for the day.
		So, you have a cell phone that's keeping me healthy, pretty much.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's incredible.
		Yeah, I'm a maniac, though.
		I would get those 10,000 out before I did anything just so I could be able to do whatever the fuck I want for the rest of the day.
		I would just find a staircase and keep walking up and down it like an idiot.
		I probably would.
		I'm not kidding.
		I can't have something like that where there's a number in front of me that I have to achieve every day because I'll just go nuts.
		I'll just do it right away.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Just hit it immediately.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'll just go, okay.
		What time is it?
		It's 9 o'clock.
		By 10 o'clock, I'm going to have 10,000 steps ready to go.
		How long would it take you to do 10,000 steps?
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		It's not that long.
		It's like maybe like 20 or 30 minutes of walking.
		It's done.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's it?
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		I think so.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's all you need to do in a day?
unidentified		I mean, it's got to be brisk walking, but what do you consider brisk?
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Like, just short of a power walk, pretty much.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Like, I'm not jogging, but when I walk, it's to get cardio.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's interesting.
		Do you ever do that sometimes at the airport?
		Sometimes the airport, when I know I have like a long walk, I treat it like a workout.
		And I just say, I'm just going to walk 50% faster than I would ever walk.
		And just give it that extra.
		And when I hit the ground, like, push off that motherfucker.
unidentified		Push, push, push.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		I don't do that at airports because I just kind of shut down in airports.
		I feel like you're almost like this freight that just needs to be transported to where you need to go.
		Like, I'm normally in my head, and before you know it, you're there.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I like music, man.
		I'm very rarely at the airport without music.
		Very rarely.
		It makes the whole trip so much more fun.
		When you're sitting down and just chilling out, waiting for your flight to take off, and you have some really good music, like you don't even mind.
		You don't even mind waiting.
		You can enjoy the music.
		The problem with a lot of travel is the downtime problem.
		That's the problem.
		The problem is you're not doing what you want to do.
		But what people don't think of is that you can do what you want to do while you're doing what you don't want to do.
		Like if there's a time where you have to do something like just sit and wait, you can listen to a book on tape.
		You can go to audible.com, get a book on tape.
		You can listen to this podcast.
		You can listen to some cool music.
		And it makes it better.
		It literally makes, it's better than just sitting there like a dummy.
		Like, when's this thing going to take off?
		Just plunk, plunk, crank.
		I did the airport this weekend for Vegas.
		I was listening to Shooter Jennings.
		You ever listen to Shooter Jennings?
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		No, I haven't.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Holy shit.
		Wayland Jennings' son has some fucking talent.
		He's good, dude.
		He's got some great songs.
		It's really good.
		Interesting stuff, too.
		So that was my travel time.
		My travel time was listening to some new music.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		It's always good.
		What about books?
		I like reading on flights because nobody can interrupt you.
		There's no phone call or nonsense.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I like writing on flights.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I get some of my best writing done on flights for whatever reason.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Are you working on a book or something?
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Because I think you've mentioned before that you write.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, I write shit down that I'll eventually probably put together as a book, but I'm not giving myself any, like especially right now, I'm concentrating almost entirely on writing stand-up.
		I'm going to do my next special.
		And the tickets actually just went on sale today for Denver.
		I'm going to be in Denver on August 22nd and 23rd.
		22nd is Friday night.
		That's like the night before the taping to have fun and do some shows and get loose.
		And then on Saturday night, I'm recording my comedy show at the Comedy Works.
		And it should be fun.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Denver's a cool city.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		I like Colorado in general.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Colorado is the shit.
		And right now it's changing, changing radically.
		It's like all this marijuana money is really transferring the consciousness of this entire city.
		A lot of people are concerned about it.
		They're worried about nefarious elements getting involved and all sorts of weirdos and biker gangs and who knows who's going to have money now.
		But the pros to me so severely outweigh the cons.
		It's like you're giving adults the ability to choose responsibly, whether they use it or don't use it.
		What you're doing is you're giving people freedom.
		And freedom always makes better people.
		It just does.
		As long as no one's getting hurt, you're not talking about freedom to fucking sell poison.
		You're not talking about freedom to shoot darts at fucking babies.
		What you're talking about is freedom to ingest a plant that grows naturally on Earth.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and the government lets you frack for thousands of miles.
		You can't blow a puff of smoke in the air that happens to be an herb they don't like.
		It's one of those things where it's so intrinsically ridiculous that that's why it's changing all at once.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's interesting.
		I think this is one of the coolest times ever to be alive.
		I really do.
		And I think that one of the reasons why it's one of the coolest times ever to be alive is because it's just so chaotic and so strange.
		And no one can do anything about it.
		No one can stop it.
		They're going to try to net neutrality.
		They're going to try to put the brakes here and charge people for that.
		And you're in trouble and you're on a list and I'm going to watch you.
		What are you trying to be anonymous, you fucker?
		I want to know where you are.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		We were talking about this right before the show.
		Like all that shit that's coming out, like all the corruption and anger and government incompetence, I'm starting to believe that it has to be there because that's what wakes us up to.
		We don't need so many agencies.
		We don't need like so many wars and so much bullshit.
		Let's just decide things for ourselves.
		And of course we need some laws.
		We need some police.
		We need some roads.
		And that's really it.
		Thank you very much.
		You know, like have a nice day.
		We don't need you archiving fucking baby photos.
		That's when you've gone over the line.
		And so you're seeing that people realize that.
		People realize that banks are ineffective and greedy.
		People realize that the old media is dying out and they don't give a shit about their viewers.
		So they're just moving over to better stuff.
		And it's happening across the board in pretty much every industry.
		Even I had this woman, Tiffany Van Gogh, on my show recently, who's another podcast host.
		And she was talking to me about how all these grocery stores now have an organic section and that's taking off.
		And so you're seeing like this, we have new standards.
		I think what's happening is that we have higher standards than we used to.
		And so across the board is better stuff.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, there's no doubt that things are getting more complex and harder to control.
		There's no doubt.
		And there's no doubt that these old systems, whether it's like afternoon, when you watch the news at 6 or 5 or whatever the fuck it is, it seems like you're watching a parody.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Anchorman is becoming more and more...
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		who are you?
		I think these things were not supposed to exist forever, and that's why to us it seems so kind of silly.
		It's like it's supposed to be dying out.
		That's like it's the new season, new stuff's going to come out.
		It's kind of like fashion, right?
		Like every year it's going to be something different.
		That's the way it works.
		Now it's like corporate media and centralization, top-down type stuff is dying out.
		And I'm sure it'll continue to exist in a bunch of different forms.
		But that idea is getting weaker and weaker.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I think that eventually afternoon news, evening news, whatever it is, is going to be like a burlesque show.
		Like people are going to pull it out on stage, like just a nostalgia thing.
		It's like riding a unicycle or fucking being in a covered wagon.
		Like, take my photo.
		I'm in a covered wagon.
		We're going to go watch the local news.
		It's a new show where they just, they leave out like really important parts of historic events because they don't jive with the government plan.
		I mean, that would be really funny.
		Like watching a news report.
		You could easily do a parody of a news report of the fervor after 2011 or 2001 rather, after September 11th.
		You could easily do some sort of a government propaganda Fox News at its worst, but just oh, so subtle show.
		And people would eat it up.
		And 10 years from now, it probably will be like burlesque.
		You ever watch a burlesque show?
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Isn't that kind of what Colbert does in terms of he takes that model, makes it a little bit ridiculous?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		And now he does have millions of viewers.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, he's going to take over Letterin Spot.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's hilarious.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		When does that start?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, what's weird is what is he going to do?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Is he going to be Colbert?
unidentified		Hmm.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		No.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		I heard he's not.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's what he's going to be himself?
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You know, he's like an ardent Catholic.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Is he really?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he's like, the guy's a serious Catholic.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Interesting.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that is interesting.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		I didn't know that.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		Or maybe it would just be a new character.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Unless that's a character, too.
		Maybe that's a character, too.
		Maybe the Catholic thing is bullshit.
		He's just playing that character as well.
		Yeah, who knows?
		What do you think?
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		I think he's probably going to play a version of himself mixed with a late-night talk show host character.
		You know, it's probably, you know what I mean?
		Like, hey, welcome back, guys.
		You know, but he's still going to be himself, but not.
		He's very quick.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He's a very quick guy.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Very, very.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		Because Leno was a character.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		That wasn't really Leno.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, but he doesn't think that.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He's so much better with just cars.
		I watch Jay Leno's car shows.
		Like, he's got this Jay Leno's garage or Jay's garage.
		It's fucking great.
		And I'm watching him.
		I was like, this could be a really good show.
		Like, why didn't you do this the whole time?
		Because you see him on the tonight show.
		It's just so, you know, it's forced.
		He's talking.
		Like, that's that bit that Bill Hicks used to do about him talking to Joey Lawrence, pulling out a gun and blowing his brains out.
		And it forms an NBC peacock on the wall because he's a company man to the bitter end.
		It was a great classic bit.
		But in a way, I mean, the reason why the bit was funny was because it kind of was true.
		Like, what was he doing?
		He used to be a great comic, and now he's this shill, this like guy who's just selling people's TV shows that he doesn't give a fuck about.
		But you know what he gives a fuck about?
		Cars.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		I've seen him on, I think, Discovery Channel before, and he's lit up like a Christmas tree, just super excited.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, he knows everything about cars, and not just everything about cars of today.
		He knows about steam-powered cars and old cars and electric cars.
		I mean, he's got like a fleet of automobiles.
		He works on them.
		He's got this Jay Leno, Jay's Garage show, and he loves them.
		Jay Leno has more money than he will ever know what to do with.
		He's rich as fuck.
		And he had so much money that he made from stand-up that he never touched any of his tonight show money.
		He was like proud of that, that he just put it all in the bank.
		So all those cars, whatever his house costs, all that shit, that's all his stand-up comedy money.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, wow.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The guy's got a fuckload of money.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		He is not spending the money he makes from the TV show?
unidentified		Nope.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Nope.
		He doesn't have to.
		He makes a lot of money doing stand-up.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		It's got to be an insane amount of money by now.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Must be insane.
		He just put it all in the bank.
		But the point being, like, he doesn't need money, but he's doing it because he loves cars.
		That's what everybody should do.
		And nobody would ever have had these issues with Jay Leno if he did that.
		You know, you remember when Jimmy Kimmel went on a show and mocked him because he was trying to take Conan's job back?
		And no one would have ever done that if it was just his car show.
		You know, there's no competition.
		He's just having a great time talking about cars.
		It's cool to see.
		It's cool to see somebody kind of get that.
		And it's like the internet has transformed a lot of people's ideas of who Jay Leno is.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		That's really cool.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		It's cool when you can see the other side of somebody where you only see the little public piece that pushed out there.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, that job's a weird job, man.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Being the host of the tonight shows.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		That's another anachronism that's for sure going to fade out.
		If you look at the demographics, that idea of like Letterman and Leno, I don't see that existing in even 15 years.
		Like I would put the lifespan of that concept at 15 years at the absolute most.
		Because the people watching it now, how old are they?
		50 or 60?
		How old are they in 10 or 15 years?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, what about Chelsea Handler?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		She's kind of doing that, and she's going to do that on Netflix now.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Well, that seems to me like an internet show.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		That format seems different.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		An internet show?
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		It's like a panel.
		I don't have as much of an issue with the panel as that seems very like the way you should do a show almost.
		But the late night thing, I just don't see it existing because not only are people getting older, a lot of old people are liking podcasts now.
		I've got some older listeners, and I'm sure you do, because it's not that hard.
		We make it seem like it's this huge chasm.
		It's really not.
		You get bored of what's on TV at night.
		You flip around through iTunes on your phone.
		Now you're a podcast listener.
		You've just switched demographics, you know?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no, I know what you're saying.
		And the problem with something like podcasting as opposed to these other things is that, you know, if you have a show on NBC, you can't not be a shill.
		You're going to be the talk show host for the tonight show.
		You're going to be on CBS.
		I mean, you can have a certain amount of room for creative expression, but essentially what you're trying to do is you're trying to be entertaining while you're promoting people's projects.
		And that's how you get access to Tom Cruise.
		That's what it is.
		And if you're some wild fucker, you're not going to get access to Tom Cruise.
		So you kind of have to be.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Or Barack Obama.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		How many times has he interviewed Barack Obama?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		At least a couple, right?
		Yep, yep.
		Fuck yeah, he did.
		That's a good point.
		Where you know he's 100% safe.
		I was on with Ron Paul last time I did tonight's show.
		Jay's a fucking really nice guy, though.
		He's a very nice guy.
		And I really like him on his car show.
		It's really cool to see.
		I don't know what kind of crazy shit he did when he was trying to get when Letterman and him were duking it out and they made those that TV show about.
		Remember that made-for-TV movie?
		The late shift?
		Yeah.
		It was like an HBO movie that they made on the struggle.
		Who knows how much of that was true and how much of it wasn't?
		I don't know.
		But apparently Jay Leno really did hide in the closet while this guy was having conversations about him and then used that information against him.
		It's kind of funny.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		The more I think about it, I think Leno has a bit of a spine though because I've seen him do some skits on surveillance type stuff and criticize various policies.
		He's not a complete company man, right?
		Like he does use that from time to time.
		He had you and Ron Paul on.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, we didn't talk about, I mean, I especially didn't talk about too much crazy.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I just said that.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		But just by what I'm saying is just by doing that, he's being kind of better than he could be.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he had me on, though, because NBC had Fear Factor on.
		I don't think it was his idea.
		Like, I mean, I'm sure he could probably veto me.
		He's always been nice to me.
		I don't think so.
		I mean, I don't know.
		I mean, I would assume Jay Leno has a lot of power over who he chooses to talk to or not talk to on a show.
		It's not like they needed me on.
		It could have been, if you said, like, no way, that guy's a dick.
		But, you know, I'm sure he could have blackballed it.
		But Ron Paul, for sure, is a controversial character.
unidentified		But he's right about so much stuff.
unidentified		That's what's so funny is a few years ago, people were like, Ron Paul, what a fucking crazy Federal Reserve.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		I started to look into it.
		A lot of people did.
		It's like, well, the Federal Reserve is actually pretty crazy.
		So he was right about that.
		He was right about the whole, like, we shouldn't be going into all these places because now you see Iraq.
		Like, what the fuck do we spend all this time and money over there for if they're now falling back into the same chaos?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, dude, what is ISIS?
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		I have no idea.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Explain ISIS.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		I honestly have not heard of them up until about two weeks ago.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's what I'm saying.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And you're on the ball.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, like that's the first I'd heard about them.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You're on the ball.
		I mean, you're on top of it.
		If there's anything weird shit in the news, you're one of my favorite people to talk to because you usually have a, if there's anything really significant, you usually have a pretty detailed idea of what's going on.
		You don't even know what ISIS is.
		I talked to some people the other night that gave me a fairly good explanation.
		Brian Callan is on top of it, of course.
		The Sunnis and the Shi'is.
		Apparently, it has a lot to do with that.
		But it's a really bad militant jihadist organization scaring the fuck out of people.
		And it sounds like a team of bad guys in the Avengers.
		Doesn't it?
unidentified		It does sound a little...
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		ISIS?
		It's like, okay, this is more evidence that life's not real.
		I'm in a movie.
unidentified		There's a band of bad guys called...
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You think so?
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		I think life is too weird.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Like, for me on a personal level, it's just too bizarre.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Too many checks.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Getting some bitches.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Things are just happening so quick.
		I don't mean like my own life, but things are happening so quickly in such a cool way.
		Like, the whole currency thing I consider to be psychedelic.
		The whole legalization thing is literally psychedelic.
		And then just this internet thing and how people seem to know what's going on and 20 years ago they really didn't.
		There's something very cool about that.
		And the progress rate, it almost doesn't feel like reality.
		It feels like it's a simulation we're all in.
		And I'm not saying it actually is because who the fuck knows.
		It just seems like a lot of really interesting, weird things happen that by pure probability, why would this even happen?
		It seems like it's kind of an adventure.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I agree that it is an adventure, but I think it really is an adventure.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		There's no plan.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		There's no design.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'm not convinced that it's a simulation, but I wouldn't be shocked if it was.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I probably would be shocked, but logically speaking, if I looked at all the possibles and the variables, I would say that it being a simulation is definitely in the mix.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		But even if it's not a simulation, it's a simulation because you are born.
		Now you have this localized consciousness.
		You don't know why.
		You don't know what you're supposed to do.
		Like, crazy people claim that God speaks to them.
		But for the rest of us, we don't know what the fuck to do.
		We're here for 70 or 80 or 90 years, then the game ends.
		What was the purpose?
		What were the rules?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		You don't know, but it does feel a little bit like a video game.
		There's a certain life cycle to the game, certain little obstacles.
		And people talk about synchronicity, which is it borders on being like secret type stuff, but I think there's something to it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You mean the secret?
		Like, law of attraction?
		Yeah, yeah.
unidentified		Power of attraction?
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		There's a difference between law of attraction, like, nonsense and synchronicity, which I believe is a real...
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		I just believe it's real.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What do you think it is?
		When you say synchronicity, you mean thinking about things and they come true, having friends, you think about them and they call you, coincidental events that take place.
		Like what specifically do you think of when you think of synchronicity?
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's those moments where you're on a flight and at the last minute your seat changes and the person you sit next to is the agent who signs you and then your career takes off.
		And I talk to people where that happens all the time.
		And it seems like if life were just this Malthusian fucking thing that we all go through and grind through and there's no purpose whatsoever and no design at all and nothing to it aside from like just maybe reproduce and then die.
		If that were the case, I don't think all this cool stuff would be happening.
		There's constant synergy.
		Things are getting so much better so quickly that it seems almost like this is where we're supposed to be and it's leading towards something.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's fascinating.
		I wonder.
		I look at the whole, if you look at the big picture of the whole universe, everything starting from the Big Bang, spreading out, planets forming, stars giving, you know, solar, these solar nebulas, solar nurseries giving birth to stars.
		And you think about what is this whole process and what's it trying to do?
		It's constantly trying to make more complex shit.
		Like everything is more complex.
		A planet cools off.
		Biological life begins to form.
		Life starts shooting rockets out.
		It starts like streaming things down, spinning things in the air above the planet in orbit, blowing nuclear bombs up in the atmosphere.
		And if you look at that, and it's trying to get off, it's trying to figure out a way to complicate itself, trying to figure out a way to get more biologically, more, more biologically advanced to the point where it's not going to die.
		It's trying to figure out how to kill diseases and spread information, faster than the speed of light.
		It's trying to figure out how to travel in space through warp drives.
		I mean, think about all the things it's trying to do.
		It's trying to populate other planets, in which case it'll continue to evolve its technology, continue to get smarter, continue to change its capacity to change the world, the environments, open up wormholes, start traveling to other dimensions.
		I mean, it's going to populate the whole Earth.
		It's going to populate the whole galaxy.
		It's going to populate the whole universe.
		It's going to keep going.
		It's a crazy little weird thing, and it's called consciousness.
		And we're bodies that carry consciousness around the same way a jug carries water around.
		And our consciousness figures out a way to evolve the body and the environment and changes things and moves things around and improves things.
		And right now, it's improving the very society that we live in.
		The very culture that we operate on is changing radically because of technology.
		Technology and human innovation, human creativity, changing the actual earth itself.
		Buildings would just pop up 30, 40 stories.
		Build them out of the ground.
		Figure out how to engineer them.
		Planes and bridges you could drive across unpassable lakes.
		And all this shit is being done like right like that.
		Bing, bing, bing, bing, bing.
		It's just happening and piling up.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		And what's cool is we've layered in capitalism.
		So we're doing all these things that are essentially just creative and are not at all necessary to get laid or to get food.
		You know, like that's what it comes down to for most species.
		And instead, we're talking and building stuff and doing all the things that human beings do.
		We don't need to be doing any of it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's amazing.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		So it makes you believe almost like we're these creativity engines or kind of chaos engines that are just churning out ideas.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Because for sure, you don't need to be as smart as we are to survive on this planet.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But you do if you want to survive, you know, for a long fucking time.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but what I wanted to add, what I kind of forgot to add in there was the capitalism thing, what I was saying, is that we've transferred it so that all these things that are essentially just art and creativity are now survival for us because we can make money from them.
		So if you're a rocket ship designer 300 years ago, that doesn't mean anything.
		If you're a great sculptor 300 years ago, you're still probably in the fields.
		Like you got to eat food, right?
		You got to do it.
		Now it takes no time at all for that shit.
		So you can actually be a sculptor.
		You can go to NYU or Columbia or something and learn how to be a fucking sculptor.
		And you can become a rocket designer and do that.
		And you'll actually be compensated.
		So you're doing these things that are completely not essential to your own existence.
		But it's been kind of transferred into this thing where you're like, I have to do this so I can survive.
		Which is very cool if you think about it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's non-essential, but it's something that's desirable.
		It's something that helps make our life more interesting.
		So you're willing to give up some Bitcoin for it.
		And next thing you know, you're off to the races.
		Yeah, we're, you know, I think we're living in the most exciting time ever.
		I think this is the best time ever to be alive as a human.
		I think if you look back on all the different, I mean, everybody wants to cry that the sky is falling and pollution and global warming.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Things change.
		Like, that's what people have to be aware of is, you know, I was saying different things in 2011 because it was a different world in 2011.
		And I'll be saying different things in 2017 because it'll be a different world.
		And if you're always saying the same thing, like there are financial experts who've been saying that the collapse is coming for the past 25 years, literally.
		Like, just put your money into gold now.
		It's coming, folks.
		And it never came.
		Like, 100% never happened.
		The recession, one of the few good things Obama has done, seems to have gotten us out of the recession through a combination of things.
		And that collapse that they try to sell you on newsletters and stuff is not happening.
		It's not going to happen in the way that it's described.
		It's not even going to feel like a collapse.
		Like, would you consider the internet to be the collapse of civilization?
		No, it's just like the growth of civilization.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's a collapse of Jesus.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		The collapse of easy corporate money is what it is.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's a collapse of a lot of things, man.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		A lot of stupid shit is getting flushed out.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's always going to be that way.
		It's always going to be there's going to be an old method.
		The old method is replaced by a better method.
		The old method's trial, struggles to try to stay relevant, and it never makes it.
		I mean, no one's riding wagons around, man.
		There's no wagon trains.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		There's this great quote that made the rounds Western Union in like the 1870s or something.
		You probably saw this.
		Like, this telephone has no use whatsoever.
		It was about the telephone, and that was pretty much what it said.
		Like, this telephone is too novel to ever gain mainstream acceptance.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		We were talking about the War of Worlds the other day, the Orson Welles thing, the radio show, and about how they were talking about radio being a new medium and that radio is a new thing, and that we have to figure out how to control the broadcasts.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		That must have felt like telepathy for them for the first five or ten years.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Because now you have FDR or whoever in your living room.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Talking to you.
		Must have been cool as shit.
		Yeah.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Plus, they were all probably drunk at the time, drunk and high.
unidentified		So they're like, holy shit, FDR is in the other room.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And plus, it's got to really stimulate the imagination to just think he's talking.
		You don't even get to see him except in the movie theaters.
		They would go to the movie theaters and they'd play them like these clips.
		Have you ever seen those clips?
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		I've seen some of the war clips.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
		Amazing.
		Amazing.
		Like they would play like clips of soldiers over there doing battle.
		But other than that, you had to pretend that you could imagine.
		Like you got to look at the newspaper stories and you'd get like a black and white photo and try to piece together what it was like to be there.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		I saw this great thing online that it was talking about how we assume that we're all rude now because we're all looking down at our phones the whole time.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Well, it showed a photo of a subway in New York like sometime in the 40s and it's all newspapers.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		So people were just as rude back then.
		We're interested in finding information.
		They're just doing it in a kind of crude way.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they've always done that.
		People have always sat down on like airplanes and had magazines and read magazines and books.
		They didn't just have parties and start singing together.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		They didn't share their souls while they're on the flight.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I was on a flight once where a lady tried to proselytize.
		I was on a flight once with my friend who's a Jewish guy, and he got really angry.
		He got really angry.
		This big black woman came by and she said something to the tone, something along the lines of Jesus loves you.
		I need to get Jesus to you, to put Jesus in your soul.
		And she would like sing.
		She was like singing while the plane was going on.
		Before she got up to tell him about Jesus, she was like singing like biblical songs.
		And my friend was like, I'm not interested.
		Thank you.
		Not interested.
		Please stop talking to me.
		Can someone please have her sit down?
		And the lady came over and told her she had to sit down and stop singing.
		And then, you know, a couple people came over and had a conversation with her.
		They told him, stop singing out Jesus shit.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, the people who have a secular upbringing, you have a stranger coming up to you.
		This happens to all of us all the time.
		Like, there are a couple of Mormon guys.
		They didn't come up to me, but they were on their bicycles where I was a few days ago.
		And you can see them doing their thing.
		And it's a combination of you feel bad for them because you know they were just brought up in it.
		But also, like, as a secular person, I just go, you know, this stuff is not factually accurate.
		You're pushing it on people who have not asked for it.
		It's unsolicited.
		And who the fuck are you?
		You're the expert on what God wants.
		You're some broke Mormon kid on a bicycle and you're supposed to tell me what Jesus wants me to do with my life.
		Like you don't even know what you're doing with your life.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, silly, silly people.
		Silly, silly people.
		You can't do that.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		I don't even answer the door.
		Ever since I got one of those big metal doors that you can see through, like, Yeah, I decided to have that.
		That saves so much uncomfortable.
		Like, you just open up the front first door.
		You can see through what's going on.
		Go, I'm not interested.
		Slam the door.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		I want to make sure you have what I'm thinking of.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		You have like a nightclub slit, right?
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
		I have a wooden door that's then on top of it.
		It's just this huge metal door that has like pins holes throughout the whole thing.
		So you can see through it, but barely.
		But you can see what's on the other side of the door, and you can talk, but you don't have to open the door.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Glorious.
unidentified		I love it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Glorious times, my friend.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		Text me.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Text away, son.
		Yeah, I'm just absolutely completely fascinated by all these new things that are coming out.
		I got a new pen that I need to implement.
		Next podcast, I'm going to do it.
		I haven't set it up yet, but you might be interested in this too for notes.
		This new pen is a digital pen that takes a photograph of any note that you make.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		You don't have it here right now?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No, I don't have it here.
		It's at home.
		it's complicated it's one of those things I have to look at and figure out how I'm gonna um You write down on this notebook all your different notes.
		The camera on the pen takes a photograph of the note.
		Then when you go to the note, you go to the note, you put your pen on the note, and the audio recorder will play what you were talking about when you wrote that note.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Oh, wow.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, wow.
		So you could be in the middle of an interview, be in the middle of a conversation when you're on a podcast.
		Like, there's a lot of times I have ideas.
		Like, there was a, I was talking to this guy, Gad Saad, the guy you met, who was on the first podcast.
		In the middle of it, I remembered this bit that I just stopped doing.
		I just stopped doing it, but it was a great bit.
		I was like, oh, my God, I've never put that on anything.
		So I started writing down.
		To have that ability to go back to that moment and know what you were thinking about when you wrote that down, you could save a lot of missed ideas that just sort of disappear out into the ether when you're having these long three-hour conversations.
		I mean, that's just another new application of technology that's incredibly fascinating.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		That's really cool.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Think about how many ideas we've all probably had that would be like life-changing, but then you forget it because the phone rings or something and never comes back.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, let me pull up whatever that fuck that pen is called.
		And we're out of time.
		We turned into a pumpkin.
		Bro, we do a lot of podcasts here.
		Let me see this.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		I think I saw him there.
		Do you know where you got it?
		Because I think I saw him at Staples the other day.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No, I definitely got it online.
		I got it on Amazon.com.
		I don't fuck around, son.
		I do everything online now.
		I very rarely go to a store and buy shit.
		I just love the idea.
		It's just so weird to me that you can do that.
		You can just fucking click on something and then all of a sudden it arrives at your house.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Man, it's going to be 3D printers pretty soon from everything people have been saying.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		That's going to be really cool.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		LiveScribe is what it's called.
		LiveScribe, 8 gigabytes.
		Got 8 gigabytes of storage.
		Incredible.
		It works with Wi-Fi.
		Syncs up to your computer.
		It's too much.
		We live in the strangest times ever.
		This is so weird.
		Like every day, there's some new thing that comes out.
		This is from an article I got where this guy was talking about shorthand.
		You ever see guys writing that Greg shorthand?
		That's what it's called.
		Fascinating.
		It's like they have this weird little shorthand language.
		You can write like 290 words a minute.
		If you're really good at it, you can whip through it.
		So when someone's talking to you, you could literally get everything they say, and then you can go back to it and realize by reading your chicken scratch.
		Have you ever seen it?
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, reporters do it all the time.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's weird stuff, man.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Not a lot of reporters anymore, man.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		The old school reporter.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The old school.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Most of the people now, they record things and then they write them down, then they fuck up everything you said because the conversation wasn't that clear and you make you go very dead.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		I don't like written interviews for that reason.
		Like, I don't like an article where it's just quoting that person.
		Like, let's see the video.
		Let's see how they came across.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Exactly my point about Anthony.
		It goes back to my point about Opium Anthony.
		Getting across what he said on Twitter with no humor, without him, without someone to talk to also.
		That's the other thing about Anthony is the way he plays off of people.
		You know, it would have been a way better way to handle that.
		Putting sticks.
		You know who else got fucked?
		That Adam Richmond man versus food guy?
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They yanked his show.
		Very mild.
		Very mild what he did.
		Very mild.
		He's talking about losing weight, and he wrote something about how much weight he needs to lose.
		And he wrote thin spiration, like hashtag thinspiration.
		And he started getting attacked by all these people that are apparently, it's in the, that's in the anorexia movement, this idea of thin spiration, this hashtag.
		And he didn't know about this, so they started attacking him.
		So see, he starts responding to them attacking him.
		He tells this one guy to draw a bath and open your veins and do the society.
		And they're like, that's it, dude.
		You're done.
		And they pull the show.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		That sucks.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		I actually like that guy's show a lot.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		NBC just signed him up for a new show that starts like next month, though.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, he was on the travel channel.
		They're rough.
		They were rough with Anthony Bourdain.
		They're rough with Burt Kreischer.
		You know, Burt Kreischer allegedly, since Burt Kreischer doesn't smoke pot, this is all fiction.
		But if he did smoke pot, he would have to do it off camera, right?
		And hide it?
		Right.
		Yeah.
		And Anthony Bourdain, he had a problem with them, too.
		It's like, I don't know.
		I think they're quite conservative.
		So they weren't happy.
		But meanwhile, homeboy, you didn't handle it so well either.
		Why are you telling people to kill themselves?
		Because they told you that Thin Spiration is an anorexia hashtag.
		By the way, take it back.
		Say we're taking back Thinspiration.
		Fuck the anorexic.
		That's what he should say.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		I think a lot of these people just need to have in the contracts like, look, you're going to have a publicist that you have to send your tweets through if we're paying you this much money.
		Because I know I even have almost said a few things.
		And my girlfriend is a publicist.
		It's like, don't say that.
		What the fuck are you doing?
		Don't say that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's a standard thing now with television shows.
		A lot of people, in contracts, they're asking for control of your social media.
		It's super, super standard.
		Like, they want access.
		They want to be able to tweet for you.
		They want to be able to tweet things.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		It's a terrible idea.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I've had that request.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I've had that request.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		It shouldn't be giving away your soul to somebody because really that's what you have to do.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, they were like, we're only going to use it for promotional purposes.
		I'm like, you can't do that.
		You can't say you're me.
		Like, it tweets when I YouTube things.
		People give me shit about that already.
		Like, when all of our videos go up on YouTube, that's not me tweeting it.
		It's an automatic thing when we upload it.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		That stuff is useful.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		That's different from your account to videos.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But my point is, even that doesn't cost anything.
		It's just a link to YouTube.
		People give me shit because it's not me.
		They call it the Rogan bot.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		What it should be, it should always be you, but it should have a filter where they approve it.
		And then once they approve.
		No, no, no.
		No, I mean, it's almost instant.
		Like every time you tweet, it automatically gets sent to somebody.
		Yeah, it's fine.
		But based on like, hey, you know, if this tweet were to go out, you would have been fired from this job.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But you can't give him that kind of power.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Especially a guy like Anthony, especially.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		Well, you can't get arrested, then you can't lose a job from it, is what I'm saying.
brian redban ▲ ● ▼		I mean, if you're.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Listen, the two totally unrelated things.
		What I'm saying is that he can't give them that because the audience doesn't want that.
		One of the things that people love and that I love is that I know that we roll out that cunt animal.
		That's him.
		Right, wrong, bad, good.
		It's coming directly from him.
		If I really think that somebody had a green light, red light option, whether or not his tweets got through, that would be disgusting.
		I don't want that.
		I don't want anyone else involved in someone's tweets.
		And giving them the, like when they asked me to do it, they were like, you know, we're just going to promote promotional things.
		And I was like, how do I know what you're going to do?
		And you're going to have access to, you can do whatever you want.
		You can delete my tweets if you don't like them.
		Like, what if I said something fucked up and I got on a plane?
		They're like, well, we know you wanted to take that down.
		Like, what?
		I wanted to take that down.
		I didn't want to take that down.
		I meant that.
		You can't have that.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		No, that really is the only thing you have at the end of the day because shows and networks change a lot, especially for journalists, but definitely for entertainers too.
		All that stuff changes.
		All you have is your reputation with the public.
		And if they trash that with a bunch of bullshit, these companies are not that smart.
		Like I see some companies on Twitter, you're like, this is...
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They don't care about your vision.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we're out of time, David Seaman.
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Thanks again.
unidentified		Dude.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Fucking anytime, man.
		We got to do this more often.
		The last one was only like, what, two months ago?
david seaman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, a month and a half or something.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's how we'll do it.
		We're hitting this time where things change so exponentially fast.
		It seems so frantic and frenzied.
		We need you as often as possible.
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