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Joe Rogan Experience #518 - Matt Fulchiron
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joe rogan
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matt fulchiron
Don't text him on it, though.
joe rogan
Well, you can't text him.
He won't accept phone messages.
He won't accept text messages.
If you call him, he wants to see Matt Fultron called, you know, missed call Matt Fultron.
matt fulchiron
Yeah, no voicemail.
joe rogan
No voicemail.
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If you're looking to get in shape, you dirty bitches, if you're looking to get it in gear, start to look sexy for the summer, pick up some kettlebells and battle ropes And pick up one of those Keith Weber kettlebell cardio DVDs.
Oh my goodness.
Extreme kettlebell cardio DVDs.
One and two.
They're fucking fantastic.
I love these videos.
Because just do what he does and you're guaranteed to want to have a heart attack.
Just keep up.
Just keep up.
That's all you have to do.
And you see him doing it, so you just try to do it with him.
It's even better than going to a gym.
A lot of times when you go to a gym, how often does the guy lift weights with you?
Not very often, but when you're following one of those DVDs, you literally have to follow him.
He's doing it.
You've got to do it too.
Don't be a bitch.
Can't slack off.
Awesome workout.
And really good for the body too.
It's a full body exercise type deal.
It's with kettlebells.
And if you haven't used kettlebells, the number one urge that I have every time I do this commercial is please go to either a personal trainer or get a really light kettlebell and go to YouTube and learn how to lift weights.
And don't get crazy.
Don't hurt yourself.
Start off slow.
And if you're embarrassed by the fact that you're lifting weights and it's only 18 pounds, just don't tell anybody.
Keep working out, but don't tell anybody.
matt fulchiron
Watch it on YouTube.
Don't put it on YouTube.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Put an outfit on, like a furry.
Like a crazy furry hat.
And plus, you'll be really shuddered with kettlebells in the beginning anyway.
So you'll probably hit yourself in the head a few times.
If you have one of those big furry masks, it'll probably protect you a little bit.
Like if you have some errant cleans and they hit you in your little chipmunk face.
unidentified
Yeah.
matt fulchiron
It's definitely a private beginning.
joe rogan
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joe rogan
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Are you drinking already?
You're an animal.
matt fulchiron
I am.
joe rogan
You don't give a fuck, dude.
matt fulchiron
I just got off the road and I've developed a habit.
And it's kind of my first day off in a long time.
joe rogan
So this is the first day off of how many days on the road?
matt fulchiron
I was gone since June 11th.
We're going to call that three weeks.
joe rogan
Damn, son.
matt fulchiron
And I was in the Midwest the whole time.
I never came home.
And it's nice to see...
Beautiful Los Angeles, California.
joe rogan
Those make you appreciate the fuck out of LA, huh?
matt fulchiron
Oh my god.
We got it so good out here.
joe rogan
People forget.
They're not 80 million people out here because it sucks.
matt fulchiron
No.
It's because it's off the fucking hook.
joe rogan
It's really unrealistic, though.
It's a very unrealistic way to live.
We don't ever deal with weather.
matt fulchiron
I know, that's what's so funny.
That's all anybody was talking about there.
Hope it rains today.
Sure do need some rain.
We never say that, even though we're the ones that need the rain.
joe rogan
Yeah, we don't have farms.
We're all farming.
matt fulchiron
Right.
joe rogan
When people out there say, I hope it needs the rain, they're literally talking about farms.
matt fulchiron
Yeah, and their livelihood.
Yeah.
I saw a website out there called FarmersOnly.com, which is like a dating site.
Like an exclusive dating site.
joe rogan
Hot Farmer dudes picking up on Hot Farmer Gals.
brian redban
That commercial is hilarious.
joe rogan
I wonder if farmers will do GayFarmer.com.
Are you allowed to say you're gay and be a farmer and pick up other gay farmers?
How many gay farmers are there?
That's a good question.
matt fulchiron
There's got to be at least 11 gay farmers.
unidentified
In the entire country?
matt fulchiron
Absolutely.
joe rogan
Only 11?
matt fulchiron
No, at least.
joe rogan
That's a worn out dating pool.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
Imagine those poor 11 dudes just banging each other in barns and shit.
matt fulchiron
All tired from working all day.
Can't even put it in.
brian redban
Go to gayfarmer.com right now.
unidentified
Nope.
brian redban
It's hilarious what comes up, dude.
joe rogan
No, I'm not having that in my fucking history.
brian redban
It comes up, it switches to his first hugecock.com and it's just guys swallowing.
joe rogan
That's all good, Brian.
matt fulchiron
No hoes allowed.
joe rogan
I'm not doing that.
matt fulchiron
It'll ruin your computer.
joe rogan
It is a weird, very specific dating site, though.
matt fulchiron
It's the most...
joe rogan
Farmer.com?
matt fulchiron
Specific I've ever heard.
joe rogan
I guess maybe they feel like a lot of people wouldn't understand that lifestyle.
matt fulchiron
Yeah, I mean, you can't...
joe rogan
It's hard work, man.
matt fulchiron
You can't date a non-farmer.
joe rogan
Well, here's what you can't do.
You can't be a farmer, find a guy or gal that's not a farmer from the city, drag him out to the farm and expect it to work out.
matt fulchiron
That's not going to work out at all.
joe rogan
It might work out.
matt fulchiron
It could, but there's also that thing of where you're like, yeah, I'm a farmer.
And then the chick's like, yeah, that's cool because I got some plants and stuff.
And you're like, not the same thing.
joe rogan
They don't know what kind of work hours you're going to have to put in.
But they might, you know, some people have good work ethics and they look forward to that sort of a challenge.
It might work with the odd person, but a lot of people have like regular jobs where they get to sit down all day.
Can you imagine if you went from some sort of an insurance sale?
I always go with insurance sales.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because it seems like one of the most fucking boring, bullshit jobs.
matt fulchiron
Phone and email all day.
joe rogan
And you're constantly, like, ass-kissing people to, like, tell them, well, you know, sir, the reason why this coverage is important.
unidentified
Well, Joe.
joe rogan
Normally I wouldn't say this, but I think in your circumstance, oh, shut up.
matt fulchiron
Always saying your first name over and over again.
Joe, you're going to love this coverage.
It's the best thing you can get, Joe.
unidentified
Just rubbing you, stroking you all day.
joe rogan
They get out of there, they're exhausted, you know?
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
That shit wears on you.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
My uncle's a car insurance guy, and he brings it home with him.
He's adopted The Voice.
joe rogan
Oh, no.
matt fulchiron
Like, if I call him up, he's like, well, hello, Matthew.
How are you doing today?
unidentified
Ew.
matt fulchiron
I love him.
I love him.
He's great.
joe rogan
Ew.
Ew, you gross.
matt fulchiron
But he's from New Jersey, and now he lives in Northern California, and now he talks like a regular insurance guy.
joe rogan
Wow, that's hilarious.
matt fulchiron
Peter Fulcheron, what's up, dude?
I love you.
I'm not making fun of you.
joe rogan
Man, love.
People always get mad if you talk about them on a podcast, man, even if you say good things.
If you say anything funny about some funny shit that happened, people get so upset.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
Listen, man, we're all retarded.
Don't you listen to the things we say about us?
We're all retarded.
matt fulchiron
Yeah, I've said more worse things about myself than...
Anyone else.
joe rogan
The difference between being an insurance salesman and being a farmer, though, is I think the farmers are a little bit more happy with what they...
I think it feels like you get something done.
Like at the end of the day, when you brought in the crops, when you fed the cow, I don't even know which order you do that in.
matt fulchiron
I have no idea.
joe rogan
Whatever you did to bring in food.
matt fulchiron
Yeah, no, you can see it with your eyeballs over the course of a couple months.
You can see the crops growing.
They say construction workers are really happy because they actually get to see what they've built.
joe rogan
They're also usually on drugs.
matt fulchiron
Well, yeah, that helps.
That helps.
joe rogan
But yeah, you're totally right.
I think building things, getting things like set up a farm, plant the seeds, water them, watch it.
You're essentially facilitating this whole construction process.
matt fulchiron
Right.
And if you work in an office, it just kind of resets every day.
Even as a comedian, it's like, all right, I'm going to go do another show.
I'm going to go do another show.
joe rogan
Yeah, but isn't that on you?
Because you can just change your act.
You could have...
I mean, essentially, think about how long it takes you to write an act.
If we were smart, what we would do is we would write two acts.
matt fulchiron
Right.
joe rogan
Two acts, and we'd do one on Friday night and one on Saturday night.
Or one Friday early show, the other one Friday late show.
unidentified
Yeah, absolutely.
matt fulchiron
You're absolutely right.
joe rogan
That way you would never feel anything stale.
It's just a matter of you putting in a little bit more time.
matt fulchiron
I'm going to do that this week.
joe rogan
Do it, bitch!
matt fulchiron
New 45 by Saturday.
joe rogan
When I record my next special, I'm trying to figure out how I'm going to do that, how I'm going to do the next hour.
I don't have anything that's like leftover stuff, I don't think.
It's like a couple of bits, but they're never going to make it anyway.
Yeah.
So everything that's going to go on this next one, I'm going to just abandon ship after it's over.
Then I'm going to be fucked.
matt fulchiron
Yeah, you got to start from scratch, man.
joe rogan
Terrified with no weapons.
People pay to see you.
You have no materials.
Dog shit for a couple of months.
matt fulchiron
You got to do some freebies, buddy.
brian redban
Mushrooms.
Start doing mushrooms now.
joe rogan
I got plans.
I know what I'm doing.
I got plans for a couple different things to take place.
All of them interdimensional.
That's my move.
I'm actually thinking the next one I'm going to do is before the filming.
Do one of those in August.
See the elves.
matt fulchiron
Right.
joe rogan
See what's up.
matt fulchiron
The secrets.
joe rogan
Have a sit down.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Have a sit down with the dark and the light.
See if we can work this shit out.
matt fulchiron
I think you can.
I think this is, uh, tested territory.
joe rogan
So, uh, tonight the full charge and I will be at the Ha Ha Cafe.
It's a new, uh, new ha ha, apparently.
matt fulchiron
Yeah, new ha ha.
joe rogan
North Hollywood.
Good spot to fuck around.
matt fulchiron
Yes.
joe rogan
We got a lot of good spots to fuck around, too.
That's the other thing.
Imagine if you lived in, like, Dayton, Ohio, and you had to do stand-up.
It's like one club in town.
It's the only club for, like, 100 miles.
brian redban
You just got back from there, right, Matt?
matt fulchiron
Yeah, exactly.
And there's two clubs, and there's the good one and the bad one.
And that's what all the comedians talk about.
joe rogan
There's a good one and a bad one?
matt fulchiron
Yeah, and it's like you're always under the supervision of the only clubs in town.
So say you want to go up and fuck around some night, get that new second act we're talking about.
joe rogan
Oh, you can't do that when they're paying you.
matt fulchiron
You can't do that when they're paying you, and you also...
joe rogan
Can't do that if you're an open-miker there either.
matt fulchiron
Competition's so high, they're going to be like, oh, you suck now.
joe rogan
Yeah.
matt fulchiron
Sorry.
joe rogan
Yep.
That's the thing.
Open mic nights are fucking gigantic for a comic.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And when you don't have open mic nights, then you wind up doing these nights where, say, you'll be the host.
You'll be the host of a show, and you'll just do a couple minutes and bring people up, and you're essentially just kind of getting the audience used to the fact there's a comedy show, introducing the comedians properly, and hopefully getting a couple jokes in on your own.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
But there comes a point in time there where if you're in a place where you don't get stage time, where you're not expanding.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
We got lucky.
This spot, you can expand a lot.
matt fulchiron
Absolutely.
joe rogan
You can go to the Ice House.
You can go to Yuck Yucks.
matt fulchiron
I've heard a lot of people shit on the fucking L.A. scene.
But there's tons of places to do it underground.
There's tons of alt rooms.
And there's tons of clubs.
joe rogan
Who shits on the L.A. scene?
matt fulchiron
Midwest people do.
New York people do.
Absolutely.
joe rogan
The Midwest people.
matt fulchiron
San Francisco people do.
Everyone does.
joe rogan
Midwest people shitting on L.A. That's hilarious.
matt fulchiron
That's a new one.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
matt fulchiron
Farmers only, buddy.
joe rogan
You can't shit on the L.A. comedy scene.
There's too many of us.
matt fulchiron
I know, and we got everybody.
unidentified
How could you say that?
matt fulchiron
And we got all the New Yorkers.
Well, not all of them.
We got some New Yorkers.
We got some Midwest guys.
joe rogan
All the ones who understand winter, they all eventually move here.
If you understand winter, you don't have to be in that.
It's good to be in that every now and then to feel it because it's kind of crazy.
But to live there every day for six months when it's fucking freezing is very taxing.
matt fulchiron
It's good to put the ankle weights on every once in a while.
Then take them off.
joe rogan
Yeah, go to January.
Go up to fucking Maine.
Just hang out for a few days.
matt fulchiron
No, thank you.
joe rogan
I'll see you.
Yeah, but then you're done.
You get out of there and you're like, okay, I get it.
I didn't have to do that.
matt fulchiron
Yep.
joe rogan
I get it.
matt fulchiron
Yeah, and that's the upside of touring.
joe rogan
Why else would there be 80 million people here?
Stop it, Midwest.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
Stop it.
Whoever you are that's talking shit on the L.A. comedy scene.
matt fulchiron
That would be Dana Stevens.
I heard her say this.
joe rogan
Almost all my favorite comedians live here.
matt fulchiron
Yeah, me too.
joe rogan
Look, Bill Burr.
matt fulchiron
As soon as we got Burr, it was over!
joe rogan
Except Stanhope.
matt fulchiron
It was over.
joe rogan
Yeah, Stanhope doesn't live here, but you take...
We got Burr, I guess Louis is in New York, and there's always a bunch of guys that are really good in New York.
New York's always got a tell.
New York is always one of the best scenes.
But Patton is out here.
You know, there's all...
Callan's out here.
Segura's out here.
Joey Diaz is out here.
Ari Shafir's sometimes out here.
He's a bi-coastal.
matt fulchiron
Right.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's a jet-setter, that Ari Shafir.
Internationally known, locally accepted.
Motherfuckers just got back from China.
matt fulchiron
Yeah, I saw all those pictures!
What was he doing out there?
joe rogan
Super ballin'.
He's a Super Bowl.
unidentified
Did he have shows out there?
joe rogan
He's murdering it, selling out in China.
He's murdering it all over the world.
brian redban
He made me never want to go there, though.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
No need.
unidentified
I wanted to go there.
joe rogan
I think it was, for him, it sounds like it was a pretty badass life experience, but he introduced us to a bunch of aspects...
brian redban
I'd be scared to eat.
How could you not eat or trust the water or go to the bathroom, just going to the bathroom, like leaving a nice bathroom just in case if you have to go to the bathroom somewhere else and it'd be like to the point where you could die of these Sit there too long?
joe rogan
Yeah, people die in toilets.
They fall into the toilets to get cell phones.
We had a story that we were reading the other day.
Guy dropped a cell phone, went to reach for it, passed out from the fumes, fell in, the wife went after him, she fell asleep too, and they died.
matt fulchiron
Oh my god.
joe rogan
Yeah, they couldn't breathe.
So much methane and shit water.
That's awful.
Yes, it's awful.
They died for a fucking cell phone.
matt fulchiron
Usually taking a shit is a great experience.
joe rogan
Not in that hole.
It's just you can't shit in the same spot forever.
You've got to do something about that.
That's really a bad smell, man.
matt fulchiron
Sooner or later, you're going to have to flush.
joe rogan
That was disturbing, but it was even more disturbing as Ari was telling us about gutter oil, which is an oil, a cooking oil that they make from raw sewage.
matt fulchiron
Oh my god!
joe rogan
You can't even imagine.
You can't even imagine.
You have to watch it to believe what you're seeing.
Cooking oil is very expensive.
So a lot of people create their own cooking oil.
And they use rancid meat, like old bones and meat and stuff like that, boil it down.
And they also use raw sewage.
Raw sewage makes sense.
It's insanely fucked up.
We played a video of it the other day.
We're not going to play it again, but I encourage you to go online and anybody who wants to see it, look up gutter oil.
matt fulchiron
Anytime people are like, yo, you've got to have some authentic Chinese food, just be like, no, thank you.
joe rogan
Just watch the Ari podcast.
It was actually podcast numero dos, or the first one, dos.
Doses, we came back, he wanted to talk to us about the cooking oil.
We had run out of time, and it was one of the most harrowing stories.
brian redban
You almost puked, didn't you?
I heard that.
joe rogan
I got very close to puking.
Yeah, and then I had to point out to him, dude, I hosted Fear Factor for six years.
And I got really close to the puke.
People forget that.
I've seen a lot of shit.
I've seen people eat rats.
matt fulchiron
Right.
joe rogan
And I was almost throwing up.
It was just so...
The shit...
I started extra salivating right now just thinking about it.
Like that...
That feeling that you get right before you yak.
She was...
She had these long like scoops and she was scooping raw sewage out into buckets and then carrying the buckets to her car and she'd put these buckets in her car and then she would drive off and then she would sell it and they were talking about how she bought herself a house from the money from this gutter oil.
So she'd been lifting up manhole covers scooping out raw sewage Boiling it and selling it.
They said one in ten of those street vendors are using gutter oil.
matt fulchiron
I don't understand why they just don't use nothing.
Why don't you just use nothing?
joe rogan
You have to cook.
You don't understand Chinese food.
matt fulchiron
Yeah, I guess there has to be oil.
joe rogan
Yeah, they cook in walks.
matt fulchiron
But sewage?
joe rogan
Dude, raw sewage boiled down.
It doesn't even seem real.
brian redban
And they also poop in the streets.
It's normal for them just to poop in the streets.
matt fulchiron
Really?
brian redban
It's like they'll just drop straw and just take a load off right there.
matt fulchiron
You go down to Skid Row in downtown Los Angeles, we're still not doing that.
joe rogan
Some people just deal with the fact they have to shit differently.
brian redban
I saw it the other day on Highland.
You know where that church is?
Highland and Franklin or whatever it is?
joe rogan
A guy was shitting there?
brian redban
No, this woman that I think lives at that church.
Homeless woman.
But she just decided to go into the lane, the turning lane.
Just take off her clothes and just start shitting right there.
And cars were like, are you really just shitting right here?
It's gross.
I was stuck at the light.
I had to look.
joe rogan
Actually, you didn't have to look, but of course you did.
Wouldn't you have?
Even if it's not pleasant, a homeless lady is shitting in the middle of the street.
Yeah, look, the quality of life is something that people work really hard to preserve.
A lot of folks are really worried about that, especially as they get older.
Young people don't worry about it so much, but old people, especially if you've traveled a few different places, you realize, wow, things can get out of hand.
If you have If you have too much homeless, too much poverty, too much this, too much that, you can get to a point, there's examples of it there today, that you could go to China and you could see examples of this is what happens when you get overpopulation and people are devalued and life becomes very different than what you're accustomed to.
That's exactly what you're experiencing.
You know, that's a good indication that maybe the people in the Midwest are right.
That maybe being in a place like LA is just too fucked up.
I just think they're off with comedy.
There's some real benefits to living in Seattle.
I was talking to Brian Callen about that today.
We're talking about how great Seattle is.
There's some real benefits to living there as opposed to living here.
matt fulchiron
Absolutely.
joe rogan
Lower number of people, less stress, the energy's different, it's not as chaotic, it's not as showbiz-based.
There's a ton of positive things that you can connect with.
To a place like Seattle.
matt fulchiron
Good air?
Good breathing?
joe rogan
Yeah, the water, the fact that it rains all the time.
You get depressed if you're a fucking little baby, but the reality is that's where life comes from, fuckhead.
It comes from water.
It's good that it's raining all the time.
matt fulchiron
Sorry, Kurt Cobain.
joe rogan
Sorry, Kurt.
I think Kurt was more depressed about heroin.
He's blaming it on the rain.
matt fulchiron
Yeah, it was all heroin.
joe rogan
Come on, man.
There's a lot of people up there smiling.
You're shooting yourself.
matt fulchiron
There's a hell of a hangover going with heroin.
joe rogan
Yeah.
matt fulchiron
You know?
joe rogan
Imagine if that guy had stayed alive.
If we could keep that guy happy enough to keep making music, what a fucking groundbreaking genius.
matt fulchiron
I know.
I really think it's a huge tragedy.
A lot of people like to joke about it.
I think he was so fucking good.
I forget how good it is, and every time I hear it, it's just so beautiful.
joe rogan
He had an awesome impact.
He had an awesome impact for the few years that he was alive.
But, yeah, that guy changed the whole thing.
He changed the whole thing.
matt fulchiron
He was just a kid!
He was just a fucking kid, man.
joe rogan
I was at this guy's house, my friend's friend, like a friend of a friend, and we were, he had a copy of it.
I think it was a cassette at the time.
And he played Nirvana.
We were both sitting around, me and my friend, going, wow.
People didn't really play music for their friends very often.
It would have to be something really cool for someone to go, dude, you've got to listen to this.
matt fulchiron
And I want to listen to it with you.
I want to see your reaction.
joe rogan
The three of us are standing by this dude's waterbed.
Listen to this.
You know, he had like a boombox.
And he's playing it.
And we were like, whoa.
brian redban
Do you remember which song it was?
Was it Teen Spirit?
joe rogan
Yeah, it was Teen Spirit.
matt fulchiron
Teen Spirit was the one.
My band played Teen Spirit in high school.
Now every time my mom hears it on the radio, she's like, ah?
brian redban
Ah?
unidentified
That's your song?
matt fulchiron
I'm like, it's not my song.
It's Petra Bane's song.
joe rogan
He played a couple other ones.
He played a couple other ones from the same album.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
A couple other songs.
We were like, whoa.
matt fulchiron
That shit was a knockout.
I was into punk rock and rock and roll that wasn't exactly metal at the time.
Jane's Addiction was pretty great.
All these bands were pretty great.
Then Nirvana came along and just kicked it, knocked it out of the fucking park.
joe rogan
You know what Nirvana did?
It killed hair bands.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
Eddie Bravo always says that.
Because Eddie Bravo was in a hairband.
He was in a metal band.
matt fulchiron
The hairbands are pissed.
They do not like Nirvana.
joe rogan
Well, it came along and all of a sudden, what?
You're allowed to wear flannel shirts?
I have leather pants!
I have fucking tight leather pants like I'm supposed to have!
matt fulchiron
I can't get them off!
joe rogan
I'm wearing platform shoes!
How come I can't wear platform shoes anymore?
What?
Sneakers?
Converse All-Stars?
Are you fucking kidding me?
I'm not wearing Converse All-Stars in a fucking flannel shirt.
What happened to being a rock star?
matt fulchiron
That's over.
You gotta be sad and regular now.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Is that what it is now?
You gotta be sad.
John Mayer doesn't seem very...
Mayor?
matt fulchiron
No, no, no.
joe rogan
John Mayer doesn't seem very sad.
matt fulchiron
No, I meant at the time.
joe rogan
Oh, at the time.
matt fulchiron
At the time, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, you had to be depressed as fuck in order to be taken seriously.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know?
matt fulchiron
Lots of dudes on heroin.
joe rogan
Like Alice in Chains.
matt fulchiron
Dude died of heroin.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And he wrote about it.
And you could hear what he was saying in his songs, too.
Like that song, Bones, Them Bones.
matt fulchiron
Yeah, Them Bones.
And there's songs called Junk Sick.
The whole album, Dirt, is about heroin.
Openly.
Openly about heroin.
joe rogan
And it's awesome.
matt fulchiron
And it's fantastic.
It's their best album.
Down in a Hole.
joe rogan
Buck Cherry.
I've never done cocaine, but Buck Cherry has a song about cocaine that makes you want to try cocaine.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't want to try it.
It just seems like a bad one.
Oh, it's a bad one.
But their song is so good, and it's about cocaine.
There's only been a couple of really good songs.
There's, of course, the Eric Clapton song.
matt fulchiron
Cocaine?
joe rogan
Yeah.
There's, of course, that one.
Was that...
Derek and the Dominoes, or was that Eric Clapton?
Was that when he was with Derek and the Dominoes?
matt fulchiron
I'm really not sure.
joe rogan
I think it's just Eric Clapton.
matt fulchiron
They always just say it's by Eric Clapton.
joe rogan
That's a fucking badass jam.
That's one of the all-time jams.
matt fulchiron
That is not a pro-heroin song, though.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
It was not a pro-cocaine, either.
matt fulchiron
I mean, yeah, pro-cocaine, that's what I meant.
joe rogan
No, it's not.
Buck Cherries, that's a pro-cocaine song.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's, I love the cocaine, I love the cocaine.
unidentified
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
I'm all lit up again.
matt fulchiron
He loves it, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm all lit up again.
It's a great fucking song, and it's a pro-cocaine song.
matt fulchiron
Right.
brian redban
Wow, that cocaine song was actually not Eric Clapton, it was a cover of a guy named J.J. Kale who did it.
I'd like to hear the original version of that now.
joe rogan
Yeah, see if you can find that shit.
Yeah, we'll get kicked off YouTube, but fuck it.
I think it's all fair use.
I think they can suck it.
I'm tired of this.
It's so stupid.
I mean, we're just playing shit that's online.
We're not stealing any content.
We're commenting on things that are readily available.
matt fulchiron
And YouTube gets mad?
joe rogan
Sometimes people put up...
Oh, that fucking crazy guy.
This is the original guy?
Oh, it's an old blues dude.
How old is this dude here?
unidentified
Uh, it's 1976. Woo!
Oh.
cocaine that guy looks like he said a lot of fucking cocaine Look at that nose.
brian redban
It's like an elbow.
joe rogan
The whole thing.
brian redban
Look at that guy.
George Bush on the drums.
joe rogan
And this is the original version.
matt fulchiron
Is that W on the drums?
joe rogan
See, there's a conviction in that guy's voice.
matt fulchiron
Yeah, no, he wrote it.
unidentified
it he meant it it's not a bad cover his version rather he could use a couple bumps Isn't it weird, though, how...
joe rogan
Yeah, he's not the most energetic guy, but I like it.
Isn't it weird, though, how some people's voices, like in that aspect, like in that singing, are just more compelling?
matt fulchiron
Yes.
joe rogan
Like, that guy's got a compelling voice.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
For whatever reason, I want to hear him keep talking.
matt fulchiron
Exactly.
joe rogan
You know, like Johnny Cash.
matt fulchiron
Oh.
joe rogan
Johnny Cash, towards the end, he was doing some of his best stuff and he wasn't even singing anymore.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
He was essentially talking.
matt fulchiron
Right.
joe rogan
You know?
But it was still so compelling.
matt fulchiron
It was heavy.
It was fucking heavy.
joe rogan
Yeah, something comes through in people's voices.
And I don't know what it is.
I don't know what makes one person's voice more appealing and one person's voice more emotionally connected to your brain.
I don't know what it is, but some people just have voices like Orson Welles.
You ever listen to Orson Welles?
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
The guy who did The War of the Worlds.
He did it on the radio.
matt fulchiron
Citizen Kane.
joe rogan
Yeah, Citizen Kane.
He just was compelling to listen to him talk.
Remember he used to do those wine commercials towards the end?
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
unidentified
We will sell no wine before it's time.
joe rogan
There's something about his voice.
You could just have him talk about your stuff and it would make your stuff more awesome.
matt fulchiron
It was an authority.
joe rogan
We will sell no more wine.
What?
I said it correctly.
He was all fucked up, drinking wine and shit.
There were recordings of him yelling about how preposterous the copy he was reading was.
He was awesome.
matt fulchiron
Citizen Kane came out when he was 25 years old.
joe rogan
Yeah, he knocked it out of the park his first try.
One of the greatest movies of all time.
But then...
matt fulchiron
Hurts...
joe rogan
What did he do after that?
matt fulchiron
Hurts squashed that movie.
It was only out for a couple weeks or something.
The guy that was about William Randolph Hearst?
joe rogan
Hearst, yes.
matt fulchiron
Hearst?
joe rogan
Yeah.
matt fulchiron
He squashed it because it was actually about him.
joe rogan
Right.
matt fulchiron
And it was in a negative light.
And then, you know, it was out of the theaters immediately.
And it's not like you can watch the shit on cable back in the day.
Yeah, you were stuck.
It just kind of didn't work.
Even though we look back and we see it's great, it was off everyone's brain, I think.
joe rogan
So, what movies did he do after that?
matt fulchiron
He didn't do very many movies.
Touch of Evil, but it was all...
Nothing was as big as...
joe rogan
Citizen Kane.
matt fulchiron
Yeah, Citizen Kane is the one that everyone looks to as really great.
And nothing else, really, I don't think.
joe rogan
Well, he was responsible for that and, of course, the War of the Worlds thing.
matt fulchiron
That shit was huge.
People were jumping off bridges.
joe rogan
I don't know if that's really true.
I think he snopes that.
Yeah.
Let's find out.
War of the Worlds.
matt fulchiron
But it was something really incredible what he did, and it's something we do all the time now.
We imitate a certain style.
We imitate the news all the time in entertainment shows.
We imitate documentaries all the time.
In comedies.
He imitated a newsreel, and everyone thought it was real.
joe rogan
Well, he read a book, but he read it as though he was, you know, doing it, like it was a news report.
matt fulchiron
And so they'd, but they'd also have, like...
joe rogan
Okay, yeah, it is a myth.
matt fulchiron
Oh, is it?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yep.
Mass panic and hysteria swept through the United States on the eve of Halloween 1938 when an all-too-realistic radio dramatization of the war world sent untold thousands of people into the streets headed for the hills.
This, uh...
It's an urban legend, apparently.
matt fulchiron
That's too bad.
joe rogan
More accurately.
It's misremembered like no other radio program.
What essentially they're saying is...
This is all from the BBC, if anybody's interested.
unidentified
Gotcha.
joe rogan
Just the Halloween myth of the War of the Worlds panic.
And it looks like it's all very, very exaggerated.
matt fulchiron
But they do it really cool.
Like, they'd have, like...
They'd have like regular programming and then they'd interrupt it with the news reports of aliens invading.
joe rogan
That's pretty slick.
matt fulchiron
And they'd be like, now back to our regular scheduled program.
It'd just be like music and stuff.
joe rogan
This is funny.
Listen to what they said back then.
Radio is new, but it has adult responsibilities.
It's the fucking internet.
Chided the New York Times.
It has not mastered itself or the material it uses.
So people were angry that Orson Welles did this War of the Worlds.
But imagine the New York Times said that about radio back then.
Radio is new.
Holy shit!
matt fulchiron
That's so funny.
joe rogan
That makes my skin tingle.
I can't believe I'm even...
I can read that.
matt fulchiron
Right.
joe rogan
I can read some people that were writers for the New York Times that were essentially talking about radio the way people talk about the internet.
That sentence easily could be about the internet.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
That it has not mastered itself or the material it uses.
Yes.
It's new, but it has adult responsibilities.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
That is the internet.
unidentified
Yeah.
brian redban
And so what's going to happen is we're all going to get censored very soon, just like radio.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, radio didn't eventually get censored, though.
It got censored for a while and then became satellite radio, which is way more popular.
matt fulchiron
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Satellite radio is essentially smushed regular radio.
It's when everyone knows they can get Opie and Anthony every morning, and you can get it on your car if you're in Pittsburgh or if you're in New York.
You can get Howard Stern every day.
He has two channels.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's like, why am I listening to this local guy?
Is this local guy that good?
You'll give the local guy five minutes and he says one wacky thing.
You're like, this dumb motherfucker.
And then you're going to turn it to Jim Norton.
matt fulchiron
I know, because you've got to sit through 20 minutes of commercials on regular radio.
joe rogan
Yeah.
matt fulchiron
Just to hear subpar content.
joe rogan
It's awful.
There's only a few good ones left.
There's like maybe a dozen in the whole country.
There's maybe a dozen radio stations that are worth doing.
It's a mess.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And what happened?
It's because it was censored.
They couldn't keep up.
You can't compete, man.
If you listen to these nut fucks that tell you you can't say certain words, you're gonna lose us.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's more of us.
Do you not get it?
They're really loud, but there's way more people that don't give a fuck.
There's way more people that would way rather hear uncensored stuff.
That's why when you look at internet videos and they have a million fucking hits, that's what all that is.
It's like, those are people.
Those are the same people that watch NBC. Right.
Those are the same people that listen to AM radio.
They're just fucking people.
matt fulchiron
They're adults.
joe rogan
Yeah.
matt fulchiron
They can pick and choose what they want.
They don't need you to tell them what's moral.
joe rogan
This is an abandon ship.
Abandon ship.
All regulations hereby now abandon.
Programming will now commence.
Do whatever the fuck you want.
If people like it, they'll watch.
If they don't, it's harder to get ABC than it is to get cable.
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
It's harder.
unidentified
What are you going to do?
joe rogan
Are you going to have antennas?
Are you going to get fucking rabbit ears?
Do TVs even have those anymore?
matt fulchiron
I don't know.
joe rogan
So you've got to get cable, for a lot of folks, basic cable at least, just to get your local channels.
Just to get the big four, right?
To get CBS, NBC, ABC, Fox.
brian redban
You just need an antenna.
Digital antenna.
joe rogan
Bitch, all you need is the internet.
It's over!
It's over!
Abandon ship!
It's like, you guys, you can't keep this up.
matt fulchiron
Comedy clubs still think morning radio is something to do, though.
joe rogan
It helps.
matt fulchiron
It does, right?
joe rogan
It does help.
If you have a good DJ. If you have a good DJ and they have good people in, you know?
I mean, it's got to sell tickets.
People are looking for things to do on Friday night, and they feel like they know you a little bit.
You know, they hear you in the morning.
They're like, hey, that Matt Filtron guy is pretty funny.
Let me write that guy's name down.
matt fulchiron
He got along with Johnny Wilde.
joe rogan
Johnny Wilde and him had a blast together.
It was so cool listening to you guys.
Johnny Wilde's my favorite person.
matt fulchiron
Johnny Wilde.
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
They got abandon ship!
Abandon ship!
unidentified
The fucking Game of Thrones has arrived!
joe rogan
It's over!
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
Abandon ship!
matt fulchiron
And how great is it that it's over?
joe rogan
Everyone on Earth has a podcast.
Abandon ship!
Abandon!
brian redban
I feel bad for him, though.
A lot of people still go to school to become a radio DJ. Look at all the Opie and Anthony interns that are in radio.
It's weird that it's still a profession.
joe rogan
Is it weird though?
What if you were a guy who was a really good horse mechanic?
Really good at making wagons and you're bummed out that someone invented a car?
That's life.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Keep moving, bitch.
Shit could be a lot worse.
matt fulchiron
And while you keep moving, keep moving in a car.
joe rogan
Keep moving, bitch!
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
unidentified
Get up!
matt fulchiron
It's how it goes.
joe rogan
It's how it goes.
matt fulchiron
It's how it goes, and we all have to go through it.
joe rogan
It's the only way it goes.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
It is the only way it goes.
If you try to do it any other way, you stifle progress.
So cut the shit and abandon ship.
You can't do it that way anymore.
matt fulchiron
It's a big lesson in life.
You can't insist that things need to be the way they were.
joe rogan
It can never be the way it was.
unidentified
Exactly.
joe rogan
Because if it was, you'd be a single-celled organism, you fuckhead.
matt fulchiron
Right.
joe rogan
Okay?
It's ridiculous.
matt fulchiron
And those were good times.
joe rogan
I guess.
It's a time of no responsibility.
unidentified
Yeah.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
Those were the days.
matt fulchiron
No phone bill.
joe rogan
Yeah, just muck.
Muck in the ocean, chilling about, waiting for the aliens to come and mix the DNA in there, like in that movie.
Did you see that movie?
matt fulchiron
What movie?
joe rogan
Which one was it?
Prometheus?
Yeah, Prometheus, the prequel to Alien.
matt fulchiron
I saw like five seconds of that.
I was flipping channels.
That's got Charlize.
joe rogan
Could have been fucking amazing.
matt fulchiron
Is Charlize Theron in that?
joe rogan
Yeah.
matt fulchiron
The hottest astronaut ever?
joe rogan
It's pretty hot.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
Pretty goddamn hot and pretty bossy too.
Something hot about a hot bossy chick.
matt fulchiron
I love it.
I love it.
joe rogan
Hot bossy chick in space.
matt fulchiron
Right.
joe rogan
Running shit and fucking the military guys on her terms.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I'll take it.
matt fulchiron
Telling you what to do?
joe rogan
I'll take it full charge.
matt fulchiron
Oh, that would be great.
joe rogan
The special effects are pretty dope too, man.
But something was missing in that movie.
The movie just didn't quite...
I mean, I enjoyed it, but it just didn't...
It was an alien.
matt fulchiron
Were aliens in it?
joe rogan
Yes.
matt fulchiron
Okay.
joe rogan
Yes.
Spoiler alert, but not as much.
matt fulchiron
It came out two years ago.
joe rogan
Somebody got mad about us, about the life of Pi.
unidentified
I know.
joe rogan
Some fucking dude was all angry online.
I mean, he might just be a troll, so we might be feeding trolls.
matt fulchiron
Right.
joe rogan
I'm like, come on, man.
You're getting a spoiler alert about the, I was going to see it next week.
matt fulchiron
Well, you should have got on that shit if you really wanted to see it.
It came out in 2012. You snooze your news, bitch!
brian redban
What I don't understand is if you really are that concerned about a movie, if you hear any hint of somebody talking about a movie, just stop listening immediately.
If we start talking about Life of Pi, that's when you go, alright, they're going to say something.
joe rogan
We talked about it for like 10 minutes.
matt fulchiron
It's just been on DVD for a year.
joe rogan
How long does it take to shut off your iPhone?
Reach down, fast forward.
Yeah, it's been on DVD for a long time.
matt fulchiron
You shouldn't be listening to the podcast.
You should be watching that fucking movie you want to see.
joe rogan
You know what's funny when you have a movie like that and it gets on NBC? The network television premiere.
That used to mean something.
matt fulchiron
Right.
joe rogan
Now it means you're slow as fuck.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
You know, it used to mean something.
You'd get on HBO first, and then it would be the network television premiere.
matt fulchiron
Right.
joe rogan
And you'd go, whoa, NBC's got that movie on.
You remember that?
matt fulchiron
It was like a big deal.
joe rogan
It's like, well, now this movie is legitimate.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
This is the network television premiere.
matt fulchiron
Right.
No.
joe rogan
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, it's not.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
This is you guys being super late.
matt fulchiron
Right.
joe rogan
First of all, it was in the movies.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
It was in the movies, and we can go to the movies, too.
matt fulchiron
I remember...
I remember Star Wars came out in like 88 on like NBC. Came out like 1988. And it was a big deal.
That was a movie that kept coming back to the theaters.
joe rogan
Yep.
matt fulchiron
You know?
joe rogan
Yep.
Yeah.
brian redban
Remember when there was TV movies when that was the big thing where you would sit home and there would be like a movie that was made by NBC or CBS and ABC and some of them even lasted like weeks.
Like they were just like 12 hour movies.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, like Salem's Lot.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Made for TV movies were big.
unidentified
Yeah.
matt fulchiron
Poison Ivy with Michael J. Fox and Nancy McKean.
joe rogan
They did a new version of The Shining with the guy from Wings.
matt fulchiron
I remember when that happened.
joe rogan
Yeah.
matt fulchiron
Because they were like, The Shining doesn't really keep it real to the book.
joe rogan
Yeah.
matt fulchiron
And we're like, yeah, but it's good.
joe rogan
Yeah, they decided to un-Cubric it.
matt fulchiron
Right.
joe rogan
It wasn't so hot.
matt fulchiron
Have you ever heard the ideas that there's all these conspiracies or hints in The Shining of the moon landing and this, that, and the other?
joe rogan
Well, there was definitely references to it.
The kid wore an Apollo t-shirt.
There's actually documentaries that break down all the connections between the technology, the distance between the Earth and the moon being representative and All sorts of weird shit.
matt fulchiron
The documentary gave me blue balls really bad, though.
I was like, alright, I want to believe all this shit, and it just never connected that well for me.
joe rogan
I think if I was a filmmaker, I'd be fascinated by it, because I think Kubrick was one of those rare minds that was operating on a bunch of different levels at the same time.
I think that he was writing a script and creating this...
piece where you'd see jack nicholson get angry and but in his mind that wasn't enough and he would add all this like hidden meaning to things symbology and all this weird stuff that he would add to it that would just kind of you know leave people to decipher like why exactly right this number what exactly was there was that supposed to represent and He had a bunch of shit attached to it that didn't necessarily even have to be in the movie.
That's it, Room 237?
matt fulchiron
Yeah, I saw that.
I wasn't crazy about it.
joe rogan
Yeah, I couldn't get through it.
matt fulchiron
I thought it was interesting that people thought he was the actual one who faked the moon landing.
He was the one hired to do that.
joe rogan
Well, there's zero evidence that shows that he did, but there is a bunch of evidence that shows that he was working with NASA and that he got a lot of consulting with them when he was creating 1969, when he was doing 2001. That makes sense, though.
Of course.
Of course it makes sense that he would consult with them.
Why would you...
If you're a huge movie producer, you're a guy who makes these perfect movies.
I mean, he made...
Dr. Strangelove was fantastic.
He was a wizard.
Clockwork Orange, the guy's a wizard.
A guy like that must put incredible...
Incredible amounts of consideration to every single aspect.
When you're doing something like space travel, of course you would have some sort of relationship with NASA. Right.
But if someone was going to be able to fake the moon landing, it'd probably be that dude.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, it'd probably be only that dude.
At that time?
brian redban
George Lucas.
joe rogan
He was a baby at that time.
George Lucas was probably in his 20s when that was going on.
That was 1969 to 1972. Well, they filmed it in 68. No, I'm just kidding.
Did you ever see that Roger Moore documentary or Roger Moore, James Bond, when he's being chased by these bad guys and he runs through a set of the moon?
matt fulchiron
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I never got that as a kid, but yeah, I get that.
It's funny.
joe rogan
They were filming the moon.
Filming the moon landings.
They had to rock it out and Roger Moore goes running through it.
Was it Sean Connery or Roger Moore?
matt fulchiron
It had to be Roger Moore because they turned into comedies after Roger Moore started.
Yeah, that's right.
joe rogan
Isn't it interesting?
matt fulchiron
They turned wacky.
joe rogan
Yeah, 007 became like a little wacky sort of Burt Reynolds-esque.
matt fulchiron
It's kind of weird.
It was like a Smokey and the Bandit type 007. It was almost like Benny Hill music playing while he's chasing people around.
joe rogan
Right, and he was always, yeah.
And then you get Daniel Craig, which is totally, it's more like the book.
matt fulchiron
Right.
joe rogan
He's more like the real 007, the literature, literary character.
matt fulchiron
Have you seen the 007 documentary, where it takes you from the beginning all the way to the current?
joe rogan
No.
matt fulchiron
It's really good, because it started, obviously, with that guy writing books about James Bond.
And there was even an American version called Jimmy Bond first.
unidentified
Oh, no!
joe rogan
Was it really?
matt fulchiron
Yeah, it was all black and white and he's got an American accent.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
matt fulchiron
It's really bad.
joe rogan
His name is Jimmy Bond.
matt fulchiron
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
They made an American version of James.
matt fulchiron
Before the British.
Before James Connery.
joe rogan
Oh god.
matt fulchiron
I mean Sean Connery.
joe rogan
Please find that.
matt fulchiron
And you know about the guy that only did one James Bond movie?
joe rogan
No.
matt fulchiron
There's a guy that was between Roger Moore and Sean Connery and he kind of got influenced by the hippie movement.
And grew his hair all along and started doing all these public statements about the war.
And they dropped him in a second because he didn't fit the image anymore.
joe rogan
No shit.
matt fulchiron
And he was really disappointed.
He's always been disappointed by it.
joe rogan
That he did that?
matt fulchiron
That he did that because he only got one movie.
He would have been set for life and he kind of fucked it up.
joe rogan
They probably locked him out too, right?
matt fulchiron
They locked him out and he seems to think he was kind of influenced by...
By, like, all these outside guys.
Like, hey, you have this voice now.
You need to express all these opinions.
And he felt like he didn't necessarily really want to do it.
He just felt pressured to do it.
joe rogan
The first guy was Barry Nelson in 1954. That's the American, you think?
matt fulchiron
Or is that somebody before Sean Connery?
joe rogan
I don't know.
I'll read this.
In early 1954, Ian Fleming was paid $1,000 for the television rights to Casino Royale.
Oh, it was a TV show.
It was adapted into an hour-long TV special.
And was broadcast on CBS October 21st, 1954 as an episode of Climax Mystery Theater.
They didn't even know.
They didn't have Climax back then.
Peter Lorre?
What is that?
brian redban
This is what you're talking about, right?
joe rogan
Oh, this is it?
The TV show?
brian redban
Yeah.
It's the first episode, I guess.
joe rogan
Linda Christian.
Boy, that was like good stuff back then.
unidentified
Climax.
joe rogan
Look, it's all wiggly and shit.
When they have the logo up, it can't sit still.
Like, it moves around.
Look at this guy.
unidentified
It's not even in focus.
It's killed plenty of men and women.
It's made beggars of many and millionaires of a few.
Mighty few.
In French gambling casinos, this is called a shoe.
It holds the cards for Baccarat, king of gambling games, and its purpose is to make sure that no one can pull any funny business like dealing from the bottom.
The game to be played tonight is for the highest stakes of all.
A man is going to wager his life.
Climax presents Casino Royale from the bestseller by Ian Fleming.
joe rogan
The guy's pulling cards out while he's doing this and throwing them on the ground.
matt fulchiron
Isn't it so funny he got a whole intro to a show?
joe rogan
He's cool, man.
Look, he's just throwing the cards away.
unidentified
Ha ha ha ha ha!
matt fulchiron
What if there's like an old guy introducing, like, house?
joe rogan
Look at this Act 1. Casino Royale, Act 1. Oh my god, this is so fake looking.
It's so weird.
Oh my god, he's got a gun.
He shot.
He missed him.
And then he hit the tree.
Whoa, they're really shooting that tree.
What the fuck's that about?
That guy's standing there while they're shooting at that tree.
brian redban
I know, why wouldn't he run?
unidentified
Or he fought to the ground.
matt fulchiron
Is that James Bond?
joe rogan
Yep.
That's the original James Bond.
unidentified
I'll never catch him now.
joe rogan
I'll never catch him now.
You bitch.
The guy's got a ten-step head start.
That's it.
Chase him, pussy.
I'll never catch him now.
Come on.
People are so unathletic then.
Can you imagine if you heard that kind of shit from, what's his name?
matt fulchiron
Daniel Craig?
joe rogan
No, the other guy.
matt fulchiron
Sean Connery?
joe rogan
The American guy, James Bond, James Bourne, Bourne Identity, whatever it is.
matt fulchiron
Yeah, Jason Bourne.
joe rogan
Jason Bourne.
Can you imagine if Jason Bourne said something like that?
Well, he's too far away now.
The movie would end right there.
Everybody would go, what kind of pussy am I paying money to see?
matt fulchiron
It's just another movie where he just goes to eat lunch.
joe rogan
Yeah.
There was another guy in 1956. His name was Bob Holness.
And Bob Holness provided the voice for James Bond in a South African radio adaption.
So he was one of the James Bonds, but not a physical James Bond.
Then, there was Bob Simmons.
And Bob Simmons is apparently the guy that...
Stop doing it, right?
Or was it David Niven?
matt fulchiron
I'm not sure.
This was in the 60s whenever there was just one guy who did one movie.
joe rogan
George Lazenby?
Is it him?
matt fulchiron
I'm not sure.
joe rogan
I don't know which guy it is then.
It's either George Lazenby or David Niven.
I would imagine it would be Lazenby for some reason.
matt fulchiron
One of the most interesting things about the documentary is in the 80s, all the James Bond movies are done by one family.
joe rogan
Really?
matt fulchiron
Yeah, except for one.
And Sean Connery was friends with this outside director, and they did a James Bond movie in the 80s, and it came out the same time as a Roger Moore James Bond movie.
This I didn't know.
Came out like the same week.
Two James Bond movies, two different James Bonds.
joe rogan
Wow.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, it was Lazenby.
Lazenby was the only guy that only played it once.
But it doesn't say anything in his Wikipedia about that.
It just says, I guess it's just not that important to some people, that they put it in his Wikipedia.
Interesting, man.
matt fulchiron
Yeah, it's fascinating to me.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Okay, here it is.
Yeah.
I guess, yeah, there was some issues.
matt fulchiron
I'm fascinated with different actors playing the same character, especially when it's supposed to be seamless.
joe rogan
How about the Hulk?
In modern times, how many Hulks have there been?
matt fulchiron
There's been three.
joe rogan
In modern times, there's been Eric Bana, and then there was Homeboy from American History X. Right.
What's his name?
matt fulchiron
Norton.
joe rogan
Ed Norton.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
And then there's the new guy, Mark Ruffalo's...
matt fulchiron
Oh, is he a Hulk now?
joe rogan
He's the best Hulk ever.
unidentified
That's adorable.
joe rogan
How dare you?
brian redban
Adorable.
joe rogan
He's fantastic.
matt fulchiron
Well, you wouldn't like him when he's angry.
joe rogan
Dude, the secret is he's always angry.
That's the secret.
He says that, and then he turns into the Hulk and smashes some shit.
He's the best Hulk ever.
The Hulk is the best Hulk ever now, and he's the best Hulk ever.
He's the best Banner.
matt fulchiron
Okay.
joe rogan
Did you know that the original Banner's name was Bruce?
And then for TV, they changed it to David?
unidentified
Why'd they do that?
joe rogan
Because Bruce is gay as fuck.
unidentified
Ha ha ha!
matt fulchiron
Is that why?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Isn't that hilarious?
In the days when that was out, I guess that was the 70s.
Like, when was the Hulk?
Was it the 70s or the 80s?
brian redban
Late 70s, because I remember watching it.
joe rogan
Yeah, so in those days, Bruce was associated with gay men.
Like, it was the joke.
Oh, look, here comes Bruce.
matt fulchiron
No kidding.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
If you were going to call someone gay, he'd say, is his name Bruce?
matt fulchiron
That's crazy.
joe rogan
Yeah, Bruce Lee.
matt fulchiron
Right.
joe rogan
He's one of the most manly guys ever.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
One of the baddest motherfuckers of all time was Bruce.
matt fulchiron
And then they'd be like...
joe rogan
And then there's Springsteen.
What about that?
Come on, bitch.
matt fulchiron
That's manly shit right there.
joe rogan
We'll give you Jenner.
You can have Jenner.
matt fulchiron
You can have Jenner.
We didn't know at the time.
joe rogan
Jenner's all yours.
You get your Adam's apple trimmed out, you're out of the book.
matt fulchiron
That is, like, actually happening, right?
He's getting very feminine.
joe rogan
Allegedly, he's getting very feminine.
Allegedly, he didn't like his Adam's apple, so he had some shit done to it.
But who knows?
The reality might have been, like, he might have had something wrong with his voice.
Might have had something wrong with his neck.
matt fulchiron
Could be.
joe rogan
Be assholes just insinuating that he's becoming a woman.
matt fulchiron
I didn't say that.
joe rogan
However...
We got Bruce Lee and Bruce Springsteen.
That's all I'm saying.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, Jenner was a bad motherfucker for like one weekend in the 60s during the Olympics.
Whoever it was.
brian redban
He might have just had a gross neck bone or two.
Like some of those people have those little neck things going on.
It's disgusting.
joe rogan
It's true.
That's an issue with a lot of older folks.
Their necks get really creepy.
matt fulchiron
Yeah, he's not a young guy.
joe rogan
They do.
They get creepy.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, you look at their face and you don't mind looking at their face at all.
Like, you know, you have a pleasant face.
unidentified
Sure.
joe rogan
And then you see their neck, you're like, ooh, balls.
This is going to end terribly.
And then you realize, oh, for all of us, everyone's going to get that turkey neck one day.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
If you're lucky.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
If you're lucky, stay alive long enough for your skin to have a bad relationship with your face.
Yeah.
Just slowly but surely.
Speaking of that, I did this cryo-chamber thing today, and we were talking about it before the podcast, and I pulled these tweets up.
Eddie Bravo told me about this, and I read about it online, and I had Ian McCall, who's a fighter in the UFC, one of the top flyweight contenders.
He does it every day.
So I was like, okay, I've heard too much about this.
I've got to give this a try.
So I went to this place called the Cryo Health Center in LA today.
And you go into this, it's like, sort of like a suntanning booth, I guess, or a sauna.
Yeah, like a sauna, like a big metal sauna.
And it's 240 degrees below zero in there.
And you go in there for two minutes naked at 240 degrees below zero.
I got a hard on.
I got very hard.
brian redban
Really?
joe rogan
No.
It's like, what the fuck?
Your dick runs.
It's hard to breathe.
It's one of the strangest feelings ever.
matt fulchiron
How long?
unidentified
How long?
joe rogan
Only two minutes.
That's me in there.
Only two minutes.
matt fulchiron
Minus 240, you said.
joe rogan
Yeah, 240 degrees below zero.
It's weird how cold that feels.
As long as you only do it for a couple minutes, it's actually really good for your body.
brian redban
Did you feel your eyes getting frozen or anything?
joe rogan
No, that's a weird thing about eyes, man.
We've talked about this before.
We talked about why don't your eyes get cold when it gets really cold out.
It's really weird.
The wind can whip into your eyes and it hurts.
That can be cold because that's a physical act of something like the actual air itself smacking into your eyeballs.
That can hurt.
But regular cold, unless it gets really, really fucking cold, your eyes don't get cold.
My eyes weren't cold.
The most noticeable thing wasn't just that my skin was really cold, but that it was hard to breathe.
It's so cold, everything constricts.
You know, you're standing there naked.
brian redban
How safe is this?
joe rogan
Safe as fuck.
brian redban
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, don't be a pussy.
Get in there.
brian redban
It seems safe.
It looks like you're in isolation.
joe rogan
It's super easy to open up the door.
matt fulchiron
Is there a lock on the door?
joe rogan
Well, only if someone really doesn't like you.
You would definitely die.
That's one thing.
If someone locked you in there, if you're naked, I don't know how long you're going to last.
brian redban
Yeah, what if that lock just stopped working?
joe rogan
It doesn't have a lock.
matt fulchiron
It's just a swinging door.
joe rogan
You just open the door.
It's not hard.
It's thick as fuck, though.
It would be hard to claw your way out of that in time.
matt fulchiron
Don't get in this booth if you're in a fraternity or something.
joe rogan
A fraternity.
Oh my god.
matt fulchiron
Right, because like eight other frat brothers would fucking hold the door closed.
joe rogan
Oh yeah.
And haze you.
Yeah.
We hazed him.
unidentified
He's dead.
joe rogan
He's dead.
Or at least you'd have horrible frostbite where they have to remove like half the skin of your back.
unidentified
Ugh.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I'm like, sorry, bro.
Listen, you're Phi Beta Kappa for life.
I'll tell you what, man.
There's no more hazing.
unidentified
Sorry, bro.
joe rogan
You get it?
unidentified
You gotta pass.
joe rogan
We're the senior tattoo already, okay?
We've decided.
We all voted on it.
We all voted in.
Assholes.
Ugh.
matt fulchiron
I never joined one.
joe rogan
I passed by a frat the other day.
All these dudes were in front of the house, and they were playing football, playing catch on the lawn.
There was a bunch of them, and they were drinking beer.
I was like, this is so stereotypical.
Did you guys see a movie, and you decided to go to school and do everything that they did in the movies?
Wacky frat guys?
brian redban
Did you see Neighbors?
No.
That's pretty funny.
It's all about that also.
You know, like people hanging out on the front porch and drinking and having parties, but living next to that with your family.
joe rogan
Did you see the reactions that Seth Rogen got by some wacky feminist when it came to that guy that was shooting people up in Santa Barbara?
matt fulchiron
No, what happened?
joe rogan
This woman, well, you know the guy who shot everybody up in Santa Barbara.
Well, this woman somehow or another implied that it's cartoonish depictions of women.
Like in Seth Rogen's movies that lead men to have these horrific ideas of what women really are and then somehow or another lead to them killing them.
Especially in that one story, it's a terrible connection because he killed men too.
He killed more men, in fact, than he killed women.
He killed four men and two women.
I mean, he was just a sick fuck.
The kid was a mess.
But the idea that somehow or another Seth Rogen's movies have to be...
Gender balanced.
At the sacrifice of what?
Of comedy?
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
They can't be caricaturists.
Right.
Whoever's in the film.
It can't be a woman with long nails who's really dumb and has big tits.
If that happens, a guy's going to murder people.
unidentified
Right.
matt fulchiron
And what about actual cartoons?
You know what I mean?
There's all those crazy depictions in that.
brian redban
Have you heard about his new movie?
joe rogan
It's about North Korea?
brian redban
Yeah.
Or they were already saying...
Like, this is a threat of war, and if this movie comes out, that they're threatening war on us because of this movie.
joe rogan
They can't go to war with us.
That's ridiculous.
matt fulchiron
For what movie?
brian redban
For the- Can you imagine?
Yeah.
New Seth Rogen movie about assassinating Kim Jong.
matt fulchiron
Oh.
joe rogan
It's called the- Could you imagine- Could you imagine if North Korea goes to war on us for a fucking James Franco movie?
matt fulchiron
We'd be like, we don't like him either!
We're not going to kill them.
joe rogan
Just troll them on Instagram.
You don't have to do this.
You don't have to go to war.
matt fulchiron
They should have went to war over that South Park movie, Team America.
joe rogan
Yeah, that was way worse.
That was when they drew the line in the sand, though.
matt fulchiron
That was great.
joe rogan
That was the first blow.
They're like, one more time, motherfuckers.
One more time.
matt fulchiron
They're always threatening war, though, aren't they?
joe rogan
I don't know.
I think they just...
matt fulchiron
They're like, if the McRib doesn't come back this week, we're going to war with you.
joe rogan
Well, they're very hurting.
They don't have much money.
They say when you fly over to North Korea at night it's all dark because they can't afford to keep the lights on.
It's not a good place.
matt fulchiron
I don't want to go.
joe rogan
We had Shane Smith on from Vice, and he talked about his visits to North Korea.
He said it was the craziest thing ever.
They pretended that they took him to a restaurant.
It was all set up, but there was no one else there but him.
And he said it was so obvious by the way that people moved.
They didn't move with people who were comfortable working there.
It was all a totally new experience for them.
So they probably were people that were forced into this position to pretend that it was a restaurant for American journalists.
matt fulchiron
Right.
joe rogan
And he's like going, whoa.
And then you got Dennis Rodman going over there playing basketball and grab ass with the fucking kid.
Then the kid winds up being the new dictator now, right?
matt fulchiron
I miss Dennis Rodman being on TV every day.
joe rogan
He could be on TV every day.
If someone was smart, just follow him with a camera.
How does that guy not have a reality show?
matt fulchiron
He should.
joe rogan
A good reality show producer.
You're telling me you can produce a TV show about a slippery road.
But you can't produce a TV show about a giant black man with facial piercings that likes to get drunk?
Are you crazy?
Wait a minute.
He's a celebrity.
He plays basketball with murderers.
He plays basketball with a guy who killed his own family.
The guy killed his own family because he was worried they were going to assassinate him.
He goes over there and plays basketball with that.
You can't make a show.
You can make a show about dudes who hunt alligators.
We're swamp people.
matt fulchiron
It's like dudes giving away parking tickets as a show.
joe rogan
Exactly.
They have a guy who makes pools.
A guy who makes pools.
He's the pool master.
matt fulchiron
On the next episode of Crochet.
joe rogan
Yeah, what the fuck?
matt fulchiron
Betty Crochet is a sheet.
joe rogan
How do they not have...
How does Dennis Rodman not have a show?
Why don't I produce it?
What am I doing?
matt fulchiron
You should.
joe rogan
I should be the Ryan Seacrest of the Dennis Rodman shows.
That's how he got started with this whole Kim Kardashian thing.
matt fulchiron
Come in and introduce it like an old James Bond TV show?
joe rogan
Is Ryan Seacrest in bed with Satan or does he just know him?
What do you think?
matt fulchiron
Spawn.
joe rogan
You think he's in bed with him?
I mean, think about what he's a part of.
It's not Star Search.
It's American Idol.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's part of American Idol.
It's part of Keeping Up with the Kardashians.
And during that time, he has time to be the host of Top 40 Radio every morning.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
What does he do on the Kardashians?
I've never watched that show.
joe rogan
Producer of it.
matt fulchiron
Oh, okay, okay.
joe rogan
He created it.
He's on the radio every morning.
brian redban
He gets it.
joe rogan
How's he on the radio every morning?
How do you do that?
How do you have the time?
matt fulchiron
A lot of people, that means a lot of people like him.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, he's very likable.
Or, maybe this, a lot of people don't hate him.
matt fulchiron
I think that's more like it, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
matt fulchiron
There's a lot of that going on.
joe rogan
I don't know who the fuck he is.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
Do you know who the fuck he is?
matt fulchiron
Barely.
joe rogan
I barely know you and I know you pretty good.
matt fulchiron
Right.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
I don't know that fucking dude.
Do you know that dude?
matt fulchiron
No.
I don't know anything, any of his opinions or anything about him.
joe rogan
I feel like I know certain dudes.
matt fulchiron
Right.
joe rogan
I feel like if you had a couple of drinks with Val Kilmer, you pretty much know what's up.
matt fulchiron
Right.
joe rogan
Right?
matt fulchiron
He'd be testing the bounds of reality.
joe rogan
Yeah.
He'd probably throw some mushrooms down the hatch and go walk through the parking lot.
He'd be like, Val, come on, man.
We gotta get out of here.
Babysitting Val Kilroy.
Every night, someone's got to babysit him.
That's how it is.
unidentified
That's his life.
joe rogan
You want to hang out with Val.
You got to make sure he makes it home.
You never know what he's going to pop and trip.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's a dude that used to be one of the biggest sex symbols in the country.
matt fulchiron
Absolutely.
joe rogan
And then he just decided to just keep eating.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
He just totally tapped out.
Just done.
I'm done.
matt fulchiron
He used to be the Iceman.
joe rogan
I'm going to get big.
matt fulchiron
Yeah, he's like, fuck it.
I'm fine with this.
joe rogan
Yeah, he was, uh, wasn't he like a superhero?
What's that?
unidentified
The saint.
joe rogan
The saint, yeah, he was a superhero.
He was the saint.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
And he always- What kind of shit fucking superhero is that?
But all the superheroes, you know?
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
What?
matt fulchiron
I don't know that one that well.
joe rogan
Did he not see The Watchmen?
Did you not read Spider-Man?
How come you get to be the saint?
matt fulchiron
Yeah, I don't know.
joe rogan
Come on, Tobey Maguire gets to be Peter Parker and you gotta be the fucking saint?
matt fulchiron
No.
joe rogan
That's some bullshit.
matt fulchiron
That's a bad deal.
joe rogan
Dude, that is bullshit.
matt fulchiron
He did play Jim Morrison in The Doors, right?
joe rogan
That's where he cooked his brain.
matt fulchiron
And he got in touch with his fat side in that movie.
He used to be a thin dude, but then he played the 27-year-old Jim Morrison and got his gut all amped out.
joe rogan
You ever doubt ever in your life that Val Kilmer was a bad motherfucker?
You gotta watch that movie Tombstone.
matt fulchiron
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Oh my goodness.
He puts on a command performance in Tombstone.
matt fulchiron
You ever seen Top Secret?
joe rogan
Yes.
matt fulchiron
That's funny shit.
joe rogan
No, it's not.
brian redban
I haven't seen it since the 80s.
joe rogan
It's funny that you think it's funny.
matt fulchiron
I saw it in the 80s when I was a kid.
brian redban
I was such a fan of Naked Gun that I tried to watch all those movies like Kentucky Fried Movie, Top Secret.
joe rogan
Oh, that's hilarious.
brian redban
They all just did not live up to the Naked Gun.
unidentified
Oh, well.
brian redban
What was the TV show that started Naked Gun?
matt fulchiron
Police Files or something?
brian redban
Police Squad.
matt fulchiron
Police Squad.
joe rogan
That's what it was.
93. Wow.
Tombstone was 21 fucking years ago.
That's so crazy.
Wow, man.
matt fulchiron
Wasn't there another movie about Doc Holliday and all those guys that came out at the same time?
joe rogan
Yes.
It was Tombstone.
Close to it.
Close to it.
But it was a little later.
Who was in it?
I want to say Kevin Costner.
matt fulchiron
I think so.
joe rogan
Yeah.
matt fulchiron
But Tombstone was the good one with the I'm Your Huckleberry and all that shit.
joe rogan
I can't hear you, bitch.
Unforgiven?
Unforgiven, no.
Wrong.
That's Clint Eastwood.
How dare you.
How dare you confuse Kevin Costner and Clint Eastwood.
Go back to Ohio.
How dare you.
No, Kevin Costner played Wyatt Earp, right?
Didn't he?
matt fulchiron
I think so.
joe rogan
And someone else played someone like...
Who else played it?
matt fulchiron
Kurt Russell was in there somewhere, maybe?
joe rogan
Yeah, that's who it was.
matt fulchiron
It's very confusing, because I've only seen Tombstone.
joe rogan
Wyatt Earp, the movie.
Let's see.
Wyatt Earp.
It was good.
But it was weird, because they had to put Kevin Costner in some weird wig to make him look like he was a kid.
matt fulchiron
Really?
joe rogan
And then they took the wig off when he was younger, and you're like, wait, when he was older, like, wait a minute.
brian redban
I was more of a young guns guy.
matt fulchiron
Young Guns was fun.
Young Guns was fun.
joe rogan
Wyatt Earp was 94, so it was a year later.
Yeah, so it was Kevin Costner and Dennis Quaid.
matt fulchiron
There you go.
joe rogan
Dennis Quaid played Doc Holliday.
He did a good job at Doc Holliday too, but I remember this one dude who's an actor, I was trying to tell him, I saw the movie, I saw...
Tombstone, I was talking about how good Val Kilmer was as Doc Holliday.
I was like, that dude was creepy good in that movie.
He's like, I disagree.
I thought his performance was a little over the top.
You know, Dennis Quaid, I thought, did a much better job on the Raw.
I'm like, no you don't.
I go, you don't think...
You just saw...
You saw him do it.
You saw what Val Kilmer did and you knew that you can't do that.
matt fulchiron
Right.
joe rogan
And it bothers the shit out of you.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because you're a mediocre sitcom actor.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And so you're all angry.
That Dennis Quaid, you're like, oh, Dennis Quaid's your hero now.
Why?
Because Dennis Quaid did it.
It wasn't the same kind of performance.
He did a good job, but Val Kilmer hit that creepy spot.
He hit that creepy spot where you really believed he was a gunfighter.
You really believed that he had some lightning reflex and he had killed a hundred men with his gun.
When he was like, I'm your Huckleberry, and he's got this dead look in his eyes, that dude knew he couldn't hit that spot.
matt fulchiron
Right.
joe rogan
And so he's like, I thought his performance was very over the top.
The fuck you did!
matt fulchiron
Over the top of my ability.
joe rogan
Yeah, exactly.
You just feel like shit when you watch it.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
So you try to diminish your hater.
Hater face.
brian redban
Look how many hookers do you think they had filming this movie?
joe rogan
None.
They're all kissing each other.
They're all fucking oiled up after every show.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
Rolled around, smooched.
matt fulchiron
Winning.
joe rogan
Charlie Sheen.
brian redban
Very small mouth there.
matt fulchiron
Who are the lesser known guys?
Are they still working?
brian redban
Isn't this Dr. McDreamy or whatever his name is?
joe rogan
Really?
No.
No, that one's not.
Is one of the other ones?
Why don't you find that cast?
matt fulchiron
The guy all the way on the right looks kind of familiar.
brian redban
Here we go.
It's Amelia Estevez, Kiefer Sullivan, Lou Dunman Phillips, Charlie Sheen, Dermot Mulroney, and Casey Sizemore.
joe rogan
Yes, none of those guys is Dr. McDreamy.
unidentified
Dr. McDreamy.
joe rogan
That's woman porn, boy.
A doctor, a smart, sensitive doctor with good bone structure.
That's woman porn.
He's got good ethics.
matt fulchiron
Dr. McDreamy's a guy from Can't Buy Me Love, right?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
brian redban
Patrick Dempsey?
joe rogan
Yeah.
I met that dude once at the comedy store.
matt fulchiron
Yeah?
joe rogan
Yeah, I got off stage.
He's a nice guy.
And he was with a date, I guess.
And he's like, man, you really let that heckler get to you.
He's like, you know, don't let him bother you that much.
So I was like, what?
No, fuck him, man.
You gotta shut those people down.
He was giving me advice on how to interact with hecklers.
matt fulchiron
Not so dreamy.
joe rogan
I was like, listen, dude, you get up there and you tell some jokes and have some drunken asshole yell shit at you in front of a packed house where you have to deal with that.
Like, you don't know what that is.
You want to try it?
You go try it.
And then tell me you know what it is.
But when someone's interrupting the flow of the show, like screaming shit out, you have to deal with that.
And you've got to deal with that in as abusive a way as possible.
You have to discourage that from ever happening again.
And that's the only way to get comedy out of it.
It's your job as a comedian to belittle and mock that person.
matt fulchiron
Oh yeah.
It's a responsibility.
joe rogan
It has to happen because the audience feels that.
The audience is pissed.
You've got a drunk guy who's interrupting the show.
It's almost always a guy.
But occasionally it's a chick.
But they're less aggressive.
The chicks that do it, their heckles are very rarely as out-and-out douchey as the men heckles.
They're more clueless.
unidentified
Right.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
They're not used to being told to be quiet.
unidentified
Fuck you, full charge!
We don't fucking do that shit in Boston!
You come here!
joe rogan
You fucking fat queer!
matt fulchiron
Yeah, no.
In Boston, I just let it happen.
joe rogan
You just let them tackle?
matt fulchiron
There's no win in that.
joe rogan
Yeah, you just gotta have backup.
You have a lot of people with you.
unidentified
Yeah.
matt fulchiron
You'll have like eight guys standing behind you.
brian redban
There's a new club in Boston that just opened up in the bottom of a hotel.
It's one of those cool places where the club's in the hotel.
joe rogan
Yeah, Joey did that.
He said that it's a very good club, but the sound system sucks.
unidentified
Oh.
matt fulchiron
Oh, well, that's only the most important part.
joe rogan
Yeah, and they don't want to hear about it, apparently.
People keep telling them the sound system sucks, they don't do anything about it.
matt fulchiron
Well, they keep telling them through the sound system.
joe rogan
So I think Joey was like, fuck it, I'm done.
But Joey could do the Wilbur Theater now.
Joey's gigantic now.
matt fulchiron
Joey's the man.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's too funny.
matt fulchiron
It's all working out.
joe rogan
He likes doing comedy clubs.
We all like doing comedy clubs.
But if Joey wanted to, if they didn't want to fix the sound system, he could easily do that.
The Boston comedy scene used to have five clubs on one block, and now they're down to a theater.
And, you know, the outside rooms, like the Dick Daugherty rooms, he has a bunch of rooms, and I'm sure there's other people that book rooms that I don't know about, but the in-town clubs, it's like they're down, like, I think Nick's does it only on weekends, and then they have this new place.
That's it.
Like, the scene just, the floor fell out of it.
matt fulchiron
How long did you, you started in Boston, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
matt fulchiron
And how many years were you there?
joe rogan
I was back and forth the third and fourth year, so I only really lived there.
For like two and a half years while I was doing comedy.
I mean, I lived there for longer.
I was born in New Jersey.
Lived in San Francisco until I was 11. New Jersey until 7. San Francisco, 7 to 11. Florida, 11 to 13. Boston, 13 to like 24-ish.
matt fulchiron
Right.
joe rogan
That's when I moved to New York.
But I was going back and forth.
matt fulchiron
Right.
joe rogan
The first...
The first year, I was doing a lot of gigs.
It was hard to get gigs in New York.
I was a new guy.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
Road gigs, especially.
So I'd get road gigs in Connecticut.
I'd get some of them around Boston.
That was at least for the first six months or so.
matt fulchiron
Right.
joe rogan
But it's a fucking hard place now to make a living as a comedy.
unidentified
I bet.
joe rogan
It's not the same thing anymore.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
I've never played an actual club there.
To be honest with you, there's not that many there.
joe rogan
It used to be amazing.
I guess if I had realized how great it was at the time, or if I had realized how special it was, maybe I wouldn't have enjoyed it as much.
Maybe half of me enjoying it was just being in the moment and being able to look back on it and go, wow, how lucky did I get?
Because I could have easily been somewhere else.
I could have easily been in Miami.
I mean, as a kid, it wasn't my choice that we moved to Boston.
I didn't have a say in it.
And the time that I came on the scene in August of 1988, when I came on the scene, I was 21 years old, and the place was just flooded with comedians.
There was all these, like...
Big-name guys who were always in town.
There was always, like, Billy Crystal would be in town, and Robin Williams would stop in, and you'd see these guys you'd seen on HBO, like, Don Marrera was in town.
All these guys were in town.
And there was a constant tour of, like, top-level talent that would come through Boston.
Like, Hicks came through Boston.
matt fulchiron
Right.
joe rogan
Kinison would come through Boston, but he would do, like, theaters, like, down the Cape.
So we'd go to theaters, and Shit like that.
And we saw him in Mansfield, too.
But it was just an incredible time for comedy.
Like, the greatest time ever to start.
But I think now is getting pretty close to that.
I think now might be, out of all the years that I've been doing comedy, there's more strong comedians now than I think ever.
matt fulchiron
There's a lot.
Because everyone knows what everyone's up to on the internet, and everyone is swinging for the fences.
Everyone's really developed.
joe rogan
Yeah, and I think it's also easier for guys to get gigs.
People can find out that you're funny because of online.
You can get a podcast, develop a following, and then start doing well in clubs, and people will come out to see you.
Way easier than it would be to get a television show, which would give the same kind of following when you would go to clubs.
That's what you had to rely on 20 years ago.
Somebody had to pick you to do something.
Now all you have to do is release your CD online for free.
Let everybody hear it.
People download it and they laugh, and then they find out that you're going to be at a club next week.
They go, I'll go see that guy.
He's hilarious.
And then boom.
And then you put little videos go out, a little this, a little that, a podcast.
The Fultron show.
Everybody knows who the fuck you are, you know?
matt fulchiron
I love when that works out because it's such a shitty process, everyone going through two or three channels.
joe rogan
Well, think about all the guys that we know now.
Think about, like, Duncan, Segura, Ari, Diaz.
All those guys are going through non-traditional channels.
matt fulchiron
They are.
And I've known, you know, a lot of times it was like Hollywood wasn't picking up on some of those guys 100%.
And now they're, like, doing way better than a lot of guys that have TV spots.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, it's because they're nightclub comics.
Hollywood's looking for, like, even Ari and I had a conversation about that recently, about what it was like when he first started out, that he was always worried that he wasn't doing something that was going to get him on TV. It was like it was a prison.
You would worry about doing TV, make a TV set, I have to have a TV set, I have to be able to do censored material.
But he also knew that if he was uncensored and just himself and raw, he could say hilarious shit.
And he could kill.
He knew that he had that in him.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
But it was like this struggle.
Like, how do you...
But how do you break through and make it?
And then...
As he was developing, right as he was developing, the whole internet thing came along.
matt fulchiron
Yeah, and he got into podcasts early, I think.
joe rogan
Real early.
Yeah, I mean, that certainly helped.
But it's also just the amount of material of his that's online now, whether it's stand-up or whether it's him talking about shit.
matt fulchiron
He's got so much material now, too.
Every time I see him, he's doing what we're talking about.
He's going up on stage and he's doing a different 15 on the first show.
I'm talking about New York spots.
He's got tons of material.
joe rogan
He's a hard worker, for sure.
Ari works hard.
He gets things done.
He's motivated.
And also, he's motivated because he's been...
He's been on the other side.
He's been the guy who tried to become a comedian and was, like, really struggling and hating it.
And now that he's making it, now that he's doing well and making money, he's really appreciating it.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, it's like...
I think what we're talking about, like, people that grow up in shitty weather, they're the ones who really appreciate LA. Yeah.
You know?
And I think that when you...
Struggle as a comic.
Everybody wants to get on American Idol or America's Got Talent like their first year and start touring the nation and selling out theaters.
Dude, I was doing comedy in a year and then I did Madison Square Garden.
It was amazing.
No, that's terrible.
unidentified
That's a nightmare.
joe rogan
You're going to die up there.
Look, I've seen the bravest man ever and that's Charlie Murphy.
Charlie Murphy's the bravest man ever when it comes to stand-up comedy.
Because Charlie Murphy was in his 40s.
He had never done stand-up before, and he was on a hit television show.
And when he was on Chappelle's show, he was telling these great stories, and everybody was like, holy shit, I want to see that guy do comedy.
So they forced him into going and doing, like, he would host and do, like, do a little bit of time.
And then, you know, he would tell his stories, and people would laugh.
And then all of a sudden he realized he was a comedian.
Like, oh, okay, now I'm a stand-up comedian.
He's going on the road, and he's fucking hit.
Headlining.
matt fulchiron
Yeah, immediately.
joe rogan
Immediately.
45 minutes.
That is a long time.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's so long.
It's so hard.
There's so many jumps you're going to have to make to get to the top.
You're like, there's people, there's a mountain, and most people are already like halfway up.
matt fulchiron
Right.
joe rogan
And you don't even have any clothes on.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
And you're going to try to do it out in the open.
You're going to be exposed, and you're going to try to run up the mountain quick.
Oh.
matt fulchiron
You're trying to jump from base camp all the way to the top of the mountain.
joe rogan
Dude's still in there swinging.
Charlie Murphy's still in there swinging.
It's incredible.
He's the bravest man in stand-up comedy.
I don't know a lot of people who would have been able to do that.
matt fulchiron
I couldn't.
joe rogan
He's got balls.
And he's fucking a good dude too, man.
He's a very good dude.
Charlie Murphy's a good dude.
I really enjoy that guy.
I enjoy his company.
I enjoy being around him.
He's always a fun guy to be around.
He's a very friendly guy too.
If you get to know him, he's fucking hilarious.
I was with Maury Smith and Ivan Salivari, and Charlie Murph was telling us some old-school karate fight stories.
And we were dying laughing.
He was talking about hitting people with ridge hands.
It's a technique you don't see in MMA. The ridge hand.
The Chicago ridge hand.
I guess it's a Chicago ridge hand.
It's a type of karate chop that comes from a very specific angle.
But a lot of guys don't know about the Chicago ridge hand.
matt fulchiron
So the Murphy brothers were doing karate?
joe rogan
Charlie was.
Charlie Murphy has a black belt, I believe.
matt fulchiron
No kidding!
joe rogan
Yeah, he knows a lot about martial arts, I'll tell you that.
We had some conversations.
He knows a lot of shit.
He fought in a lot of tournaments and stuff.
matt fulchiron
He's kind of a badass dude now that I know that.
joe rogan
Yeah, Charlie Murphy's an interesting character.
He's a very complex guy.
He's got a lot going on in his head.
I mean, those guys who tell good stories, they're almost always very complex.
matt fulchiron
Right.
joe rogan
There's something about being that good socially, being that good of a storyteller, that captivating.
That usually comes from a strange place.
matt fulchiron
Right.
Yeah.
It comes from Rick James muddying up your couch.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Did that happen to him or Eddie?
matt fulchiron
That was to both of them.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
matt fulchiron
Yeah, they were both there.
That is just one of the best stories of all time.
joe rogan
I had Rick James on a show.
I was doing this show for VH1, I think it was.
It's called The List.
I think that was the name of it.
I had a bunch of people on that were really famous.
Meat Loaf was on one of my episodes, and Tom Sizemore was on one of my episodes.
Rob Halford was on one.
Tiffany from I Think We're Alone.
No shit!
Yeah, she was on one.
That's hilarious, now that I'm thinking about that.
unidentified
What was it called?
joe rogan
It was called The List.
Wow, I totally forgot about that show.
matt fulchiron
And what happens on this show?
joe rogan
I don't remember.
Some non-memorable sort of trivia show.
I don't remember.
Tracy Lourdes was on one of them.
matt fulchiron
Nice.
joe rogan
Tracy Lourdes, post-porn career when she was a legit actress.
matt fulchiron
Right.
joe rogan
She'd become a legit actress.
But who was the original person we were talking about was on it?
matt fulchiron
Charlie Murphy.
joe rogan
Charlie Murphy.
No, no.
matt fulchiron
No, Rick James.
joe rogan
Rick James.
Rick James, that's what it was.
He was defending Michael Jackson.
It was like when one of the early Michael Jackson controversies Obviously before he died.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
One of the earlier ones.
And Rick James was, you know, I've known Michael for 20 years.
I ain't never seen none of that.
And this other woman was upset because she was a mother and she was like, you know, like, as a mom, like, that really freaks me out.
And he's like sleeping with kids.
Oh, you ain't got to worry.
He ain't doing nothing.
I know Michael for 20 years.
And Rick James had something wrong with his voice.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
While he was there, it was kind of fucked up.
Like something was wrong with his voice.
And like he had assistance with him.
And the assistance were, oh, he's just got, he's got a bit of a cold.
matt fulchiron
He's got a bit of a cold.
Yeah.
joe rogan
And all I could think is just see, I could see him hitting that crack pipe.
matt fulchiron
Cocaine.
joe rogan
Just see him.
Do-do-do-do.
Do-do-do.
Freebasing all night and stumbling into that studio.
He was a real rock star, man.
He had a bunch of people taking care of him while he was there.
A bunch of people cleaned him up, polished him off.
He had people that were moving him around, moving him forth.
And this was...
I want to say this was before all the Chappelle stuff.
This was Rick James before...
I'm Rick James, bitch!
Which really sort of revitalized him before his death.
That probably killed him.
matt fulchiron
Probably.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's probably Chappelle's, I'm Rick James, bitch!
matt fulchiron
Made him famous again.
joe rogan
To become actually Rick James, cocaine is a hell of a drug.
matt fulchiron
Yeah, it was a huge bump.
joe rogan
And then every time you're out, all of a sudden, it's like the 70s all over again, and you're Rick James again.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
And the coke starts flowing.
unidentified
Yeah, except you don't got a young man's heart anymore.
joe rogan
You got a 67-year-old heart, son.
He can't be smoking rocks with a 67-year-old heart.
matt fulchiron
No more cocaine.
No cocaine after 14. That's a good rule.
joe rogan
Or, you know, like I wrote this on Twitter the other day, that at a certain point in time, it becomes pathetic if you're drunk.
matt fulchiron
Right.
joe rogan
But if you hang in there around 70, it gets cool again.
Right?
It's like if you saw an old dude, and he's 70 years old, and he's drunk on his front lawn, and he's smoking a joint, he's got a bottle of whiskey in his hand, and you're like, what's up, man?
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
How you doing?
You want to give that guy a hug?
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, but if he was 50, if he's 50 and he's publicly drunk, you're like, oh, listen, man, maybe you need to talk to your wife.
Sounds like you got a problem.
Yeah.
You know, you guys fight.
I'm sorry, man.
I gotta go.
I gotta go.
I'm a fucking bitch, man.
unidentified
I'm gonna tell you what she said to me.
joe rogan
Tell you what she said to me.
I've been married for seven years, okay?
I'm gonna tell you what she said to me.
matt fulchiron
It's like, sir, I hate to kick you off your own lawn, but you gotta go inside.
joe rogan
Come on, bro.
You're 50 years old.
You shouldn't be drunk.
matt fulchiron
I like that.
It's kind of like a war veteran type vibe once you're past 70 and drinking and smoking.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm never gonna tell a 70-year-old guy to put away the cigarettes.
matt fulchiron
He's earned it.
joe rogan
But he's over.
It's over anyway.
This guy's just the last few days of the movie.
Just light your cigarettes.
Do whatever you gotta do.
matt fulchiron
Do it.
joe rogan
Right?
matt fulchiron
I think you're absolutely right.
joe rogan
Brian's hanging in there.
unidentified
He's like, if I could just hang in there to 70. 30 more years.
joe rogan
Just hang in there to 70. The people who really want to believe that cigarette smoking is okay, they go, well, I tell you, look, it all depends on the gene.
If you got that gene, you get the cancer.
But none of my family has cancer.
You know, knock on wood.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
Absolvation.
matt fulchiron
Yeah, not that many people have those genes.
joe rogan
I don't know who does.
I think some people just survive somehow or another.
matt fulchiron
That is smoke in your lungs every day.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's a weird one.
It's a weird one, man.
I saw this thing the other day where they were talking about the vape pens.
And they were like, these are clearly being marketed to children.
Look!
This has strawberry bubblegum flavor.
Clearly, this is marketed towards children.
And I was going, I was watching that going, what are you, what?
Who pays you?
Who pays you to say this?
Well, there's one way to look at it.
The one way to look at it is to say, well, maybe they really are concerned, but they're just dumb.
matt fulchiron
Right.
joe rogan
You know, and so this is being marketed towards children.
Or adults that like the taste of candy.
Is that even possible?
Candy with your tobacco?
I think it's pretty fucking possible, isn't it?
matt fulchiron
Absolutely.
joe rogan
So that's one, too.
Clearly being marketed towards children.
Can you imagine if you saw a kid with a vape pen?
And some strawberry bubblegum flavored tobacco.
matt fulchiron
There's not an adult in the world that would be like, oh, that's okay.
Strangers would, like, grab it out of his hand.
joe rogan
Well, apparently that is a thing with young kids, though.
matt fulchiron
Really?
They like the vapor pens?
joe rogan
Kids that are trying to quit smoking.
Kids that started smoking at age 15 and are fucked.
matt fulchiron
Right.
joe rogan
That happens, man.
matt fulchiron
No, absolutely it happens.
joe rogan
I know someone whose kid is addicted to smoking.
She's, like, 16 or 17 years old.
And they've tried to get her off.
They've done this thing.
They took her to a rehab.
He took her to hypnosis.
She can't get off.
brian redban
Do you know if she started with regular cigarettes or electronic cigarettes?
joe rogan
She started with regular cigarettes.
matt fulchiron
My brother was always smoking cigarettes when he was a kid.
unidentified
Like 11, 12. My sister started at 14. Did she still smoke?
joe rogan
No, she quit a while back, but she smoked for a long time.
She quit when she had kids.
When she was pregnant, she quit.
It's dangerous shit, man.
I mean, it's amazing that it would take you having a baby to quit, but...
matt fulchiron
My friend, his mom, he's got an older sister, and his mom quit smoking to have the older sister, and then just smoked through the pregnancy with him.
She was like, ah, fuck it.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
Oh my god.
She smoked through her pregnancy?
matt fulchiron
She smoked through her pregnancy!
joe rogan
What an evil bitch.
matt fulchiron
Even though she knew how to quit.
unidentified
Wow.
matt fulchiron
She's a nice lady.
I've met her.
joe rogan
That's an evil bitch, bro.
She might say she's a nice lady.
She cooked her kid.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
She cooked that kid.
matt fulchiron
He's a good friend of mine.
joe rogan
I'm sure that's probably what's wrong with me.
My mom smoked while I was in the womb.
matt fulchiron
Yeah?
joe rogan
Yeah.
She did something wrong.
It's not good.
brian redban
I remember my friend's mom smoked.
No one in my family smoked, but my friend's mom smoked, and she would drive us to the bowling alley or whatever, and And it was just smoke in the car.
I remember thinking as a kid, like, this is so gross.
I can't smell anything except for smoke.
unidentified
So bad.
brian redban
But it should just keep the windows rolled up.
joe rogan
Cold out.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Cold out.
And it's her car.
She's gonna smoke in her car.
matt fulchiron
With the heat on?
unidentified
I'll fucking drive your kids around, but I'm not gonna keep the air clean.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, Greg Fitzsimmons has the best stories.
He lived in Boston, and his parents were chain smokers.
And so his mother and his father were both chain smokers.
And they were in this house, like, boxed in.
I think at the time, actually, he was in New York, I think he said.
He lived in New York for a while, too.
And he was just, no air, you know?
It's in the winter, so the entire house is filled, and he's got asthma all the time.
It's all fucked up.
Dad died young of a heart attack.
Dad didn't even make it to 60. Just fucking using that one to light another one.
Keep the party rolling.
Keith Richards.
matt fulchiron
He makes it happen.
joe rogan
I wonder what he smokes.
I wonder if he's smoking Obama.
matt fulchiron
Love that.
joe rogan
Look how much younger he looked then.
Isn't that crazy?
That was like a week ago.
That dude aged more than any other president.
matt fulchiron
He is stressed the fuck out.
joe rogan
I wonder what it is.
I've always wondered if it's stress or if it's a lack of sleep or if it's they showed them where the aliens live.
matt fulchiron
I hope it's the latter.
joe rogan
That would be the best one.
matt fulchiron
Or the third one.
joe rogan
He knows too much about the alien agenda.
matt fulchiron
That would keep you up at night.
joe rogan
Yeah.
That's why he plays along with the rules.
He's like, it doesn't matter if they rape the earth.
Do you want to fucking know what's behind the moon?
It's right there.
No, but in all seriousness, no one person should have a job that does that to them.
matt fulchiron
I know.
joe rogan
A job that ages everybody just in a crazy way.
That's a great lesson.
The president is a great lesson for people.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, don't...
Don't work that hard.
matt fulchiron
Right.
joe rogan
Look what happens to the president when he works that hard.
Like, you're gonna burn that thing out, man.
matt fulchiron
And everybody's going for a second term?
Like, everybody goes for it.
joe rogan
Does anybody quit?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Does anybody ever get to four years and go, you know what, man, fuck this.
matt fulchiron
Not recently.
Not in the last 20 years.
joe rogan
Has it ever happened?
Let's find out.
I'm gonna say a president has never quit.
matt fulchiron
Okay.
joe rogan
I mean, Richard Nixon was impeached.
matt fulchiron
Right.
unidentified
Right?
joe rogan
Has a president ever resigned?
What do you think, Brian?
unidentified
No.
matt fulchiron
I think Teddy Roosevelt did.
joe rogan
Really?
Is it a physical issue?
matt fulchiron
No, I think he didn't want to hog it.
And then he was bummed that he did it.
joe rogan
Richard Nixon, that's it.
Richard Nixon resigned from office.
And all he did was spy on people.
matt fulchiron
Yeah, that's nothing.
joe rogan
Isn't that weird?
That's all he did.
unidentified
I'm not a cracker.
joe rogan
And he did things that they were already doing.
Everybody was doing that.
They were all spying on each other.
Everybody spies on each other back then.
matt fulchiron
But the public wasn't ready for that shit, right?
unidentified
No.
matt fulchiron
They were like, not my America!
joe rogan
Well, it's kind of interesting, but that's how a lot of weirdness went on with the CIA after the Nixon...
Like that's when Freedom of Information Act was like all over the news.
It was big issues.
And that's when they had this nuclear submarine that was a Russian nuclear submarine.
It was an issue of or an episode of Radiolab, which is one of my favorite podcasts.
And what a Glomar response is, Glomar was a corporation, Global Marine.
And they were responsible for rescuing this nuclear submarine.
They had a contract to pull this nuclear submarine that the Russians had lost from the bottom of the ocean.
It was like a seven-mile thing.
They had to pull it.
Crazy thing.
And so when the news got leaked and they had to respond to the press, they were being asked whether or not they had this nuclear submarine in their possession.
They knew because of the Freedom of Information Act that they had to give a response.
They had to answer.
So the response was, I can neither confirm nor deny.
matt fulchiron
Right.
joe rogan
And that's become something that people say constantly.
I can neither confirm nor deny that Mr. Sheen was in that whorehouse.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
That Mr. Bryant was with this woman.
When they do stuff like that, it's called a Glomar response.
matt fulchiron
Okay.
joe rogan
And then it all came out of this because of the Nixon administration's fuck-ups.
Because everybody was like aghast at Watergate.
And they wanted to, like, he told us he didn't do anything.
He lied.
We're going to get those liars.
We're going to go after those liars.
matt fulchiron
Right.
joe rogan
And so that's where all that shit came from.
Until they got good at lying again.
Yeah.
matt fulchiron
Now they got it down.
joe rogan
Why?
unidentified
I saw...
matt fulchiron
I don't know.
You've probably talked about JFK a lot on this podcast, right?
Or not?
joe rogan
Oh, for sure.
matt fulchiron
I just saw this recent thing on CNN, and it was all about, like, yeah, Oswald did it.
I mean, I always thought...
I always thought it was, like, this big conspiracy, and now we're back to Oswald did it?
joe rogan
The mainstream America version is that Oswald did it.
I mean, if you want to listen to...
Most of the mainstream experts, you know, quote-unquote, that are on television, they would say Oswald did it alone.
I don't think he did it alone.
I don't think it makes any sense.
But it's one of those things that you really don't know unless you were there.
And there's enough information back and forth on both sides where the whole thing gets incredibly sketchy.
unidentified
Yeah.
matt fulchiron
I just saw those old...
I guess they're PBS documentaries from the 80s.
And those just seemed...
I don't know.
It just seemed like they had a lot of, not evidence exactly, but other people's perspectives, and we saw other people dressed as cops and stuff like that.
joe rogan
There might have been other people, but the problem is, one of the things that they say about any experience, when something goes down, like if there was a crazy explosion right across the street from us right now, and you and I just happen to be outside shooting the shit, podcast is over, and the building across the street from us explodes.
We might have two completely different stories as to what went down.
And if you compare those stories, one of us might not have been paying attention.
One of us might have a problem with the truth.
One of us might want to exaggerate when a camera's there.
One of us might want to make it seem like he was a hero.
One of us might want to...
I saw a man run out of that car.
Eyewitness evidence, eyewitness accounts are terrible.
They're really unreliable.
You ever talk to someone that you know, and you guys went through some weird shit together, and you go back, and he gives you a version of it, and you compare it to your version, and you're like, one of us is fucking crazy.
matt fulchiron
Absolutely.
joe rogan
Because I don't remember any of the shit you're talking about.
matt fulchiron
Right.
joe rogan
Yeah, that happens.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
So when you hear about, like, people who said they saw cops, and people who said that, you know, I witnessed the CIA give the thumbs up, and then the shooting started.
matt fulchiron
Right.
joe rogan
I was there.
Right.
Yeah, maybe you were, but maybe you're just making a bunch of shit up.
matt fulchiron
Right.
joe rogan
Memories are terrible, dude.
matt fulchiron
Absolutely.
joe rogan
They're awful.
matt fulchiron
I know.
joe rogan
But if you look at the evidence, tough to shoot someone three times that accurately from a window with a rifle that has a shitty scope, but it is possible.
Everybody says it's not possible.
It's possible.
The real problem is the impacts on the body.
The magic bullet theory that went through one body.
Well, it's not magic.
See, you're just confused about the perspective.
I've seen it all.
What's magic is the bullet hit bones, shattered bones, and came out looking like that.
That looks like a bullet that got shot into a swimming pool.
And anybody who tells you any differently is not being honest.
That seems weird.
Is it possible that the bone was shattered by that bullet and it came out looking like that?
It's very unlikely.
Very, very unlikely.
It might be possible.
I mean, in the freakiest of freaky circumstances.
But when bullets hit things, they fuck up.
They twist up.
They bend.
matt fulchiron
Right.
joe rogan
It's just what happens.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
You know, there's stronger bullets than other ones, full metal jacketed bullets like that one, a little bit stronger.
But you're talking about like a bullet that left fragments in people's bodies, too.
It wasn't as simple as the bullet got through shattered bone cleanly and fell onto it.
No, it left little pieces of metal, pieces of metal that aren't actually missing from the bullet that they found.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, it's screwy.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's a screwy story, and it's a story that they wanted that guy dead.
Everybody wanted that guy dead.
There was a bunch of people that wanted that guy dead.
It wasn't hard to imagine someone plotted to murder him.
It seems pretty likely that someone wanted to murder him.
And I don't think it's likely that Oswald wanted to do it.
matt fulchiron
Right.
joe rogan
You know, I think it's way more likely that some of these incredibly powerful groups that would profit off of him being dead would want him dead.
matt fulchiron
Right.
joe rogan
And I think back then in 1969, 1963 as it were, you weren't that accountable, man.
You can get away with shit.
matt fulchiron
Right.
joe rogan
But I also think that people like to tie up history with a nice neat little bow, you know.
You know what?
Forget all your conspiracy shenanigans.
Oswald acted alone.
matt fulchiron
It was a weird news program.
It was on CNN, and it was very much like, come on!
It was Oswald.
For like two hours straight.
joe rogan
I would like to see someone who knows a lot about the case debate them.
Not me, but someone who actually knows a lot about the case debate them.
You know, my take is that it's not an either-or.
You know, when everyone, Oswald did this, Oswald did that, Oswald did it.
Or Oswald was a part of it.
That's possible as well.
And that's one thing that people aren't considering.
The idea that Oswald got killed because he knew too much, he was going to expose it.
Well, it could have been that he got killed because, look, they arrested him.
If we kill him, then they're not even going to know about all the other shooters.
But if they hold that guy and start interrogating him and he starts telling about the entire plan...
And then someone gets in trouble.
So what do they do?
They murder him in front of a bunch of cops.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And they had a guy with mob ties do it.
matt fulchiron
Right.
joe rogan
Hilarious.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
The whole thing stinks.
And anybody who pretends it doesn't stink, you're just trying to put a neat little bow on it.
matt fulchiron
Right.
joe rogan
And be the guy who's not...
You're a no-nonsense guy.
I know.
I'm a no-nonsense guy.
Okay?
We both know.
matt fulchiron
Come on.
joe rogan
Oswald acted alone.
unidentified
Come on.
joe rogan
End of story.
Am I right?
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
Jesus.
It's fucking hippies.
They'll believe anything.
matt fulchiron
Right.
joe rogan
Lee Harvey Oswald.
Yeah.
I don't know, man.
I just know that that's a crazy thing that they can kill the president.
matt fulchiron
It is.
joe rogan
And if they did get away with it, if there is a group of people, whether it's the CIA or the FBI or the fucking mob or whoever it was...
If someone did get away with killing the president, that's incredible.
matt fulchiron
It's insane.
joe rogan
You know, look, people can't keep secrets.
That's proven fact.
There's no way.
That's the number one reason why you should think that it...
Because people can't keep secrets.
People have always kept secrets.
matt fulchiron
I think I'd be able to keep a secret that would put me in jail.
joe rogan
People are pretty good at keeping secrets.
Anybody who says that people are bad at keeping secrets just is not taking into account how many fucking secrets there really are.
matt fulchiron
That they don't know about.
joe rogan
Yeah.
What you're seeing is the shitty secrets.
You know?
When you see someone get busted for something, what you're seeing is a bunch of weak-jawed bitches.
Flapping off at the gums and ruining their perfect situation.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's what you're saying.
But another group might be able to dress up like an owl god, sacrifice a hooker, light it on fire, go back to work in the morning, give each other their little owl sign as they fucking make their way to the bathroom passing.
And they might keep that the day they die.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
It might be fun for them.
Like being a mason or something.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
Fight club.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Jihadist.
matt fulchiron
That's definitely something.
joe rogan
Dude, it's a radical life.
You know?
Giving sacrifices, but you're doing it for Allah.
You're out there blowing up bitches.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
Making it real.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Keeping chicks from driving.
matt fulchiron
Keeping chicks from being seen.
joe rogan
Yeah, cover up.
Cover up and no driving.
unidentified
Done!
joe rogan
My religion says so.
unidentified
My religion says so.
matt fulchiron
I sat next to two women on the...
I took a Greyhound bus for the first time over my Midwest tour.
joe rogan
Whoa, you're an animal.
Why'd you do that?
matt fulchiron
Because the budget was dwindling.
And I needed to get back to Cleveland.
joe rogan
That's real.
matt fulchiron
So I took the Greyhound.
And sitting next to me were two women in burkas.
joe rogan
Oh my goodness.
matt fulchiron
It was hot.
And it didn't smell good.
joe rogan
Oh, it was hot like out.
It wasn't hot like sexy.
matt fulchiron
It wasn't sexy.
It was BO-ish.
joe rogan
There's a little bit of sexiness to it.
There's something.
matt fulchiron
It's like, let's make a deal.
Like, what's going on under there?
joe rogan
It would be great.
It would be great if they were hot and they were just into doing it because they only wanted to show themselves with their man.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
If it was their idea.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
That'd be kind of cool, right?
joe rogan
That would be kind of wild.
That would be kind of wild.
If you dated a chick and she just started showing up, she showed up with a burka and she was hot as fuck, she wore a burka and you're like, why are you wearing a burka?
I just don't want anybody to see me but you.
matt fulchiron
Oh my god.
joe rogan
You'd be like, whoa.
That's crazy.
That's pretty hot.
That's an intense commitment.
But that's also a chick who will burn your fucking whole town down in hopes of killing you when you break up with her.
matt fulchiron
Sure!
She loves you.
joe rogan
She'll fucking set a gas leak in your entire town slowly in the middle of the night.
She'll plan it out in advance.
Yeah, that sounds like a crazy bitch, but whoever the guy was that first invented the burka, what a hater.
matt fulchiron
Steve Burka.
joe rogan
What a bitch.
That guy's a cock-bocker.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
That guy's the worst pimp hand ever.
His pimp hand's so weak, he has to cover his chicks up.
Cover up!
There's so much of you looking out like this.
This is it.
Everything else, cloth.
matt fulchiron
It's so heartbreaking, man.
joe rogan
What's a big part of the world?
It's not like 20 people are doing it.
matt fulchiron
Right, and it's hard to get rid of the psychology.
joe rogan
Oh, it's impossible, right?
matt fulchiron
Yeah, man.
joe rogan
Does it bum you out?
You want to rescue those chicks?
matt fulchiron
It does bum me out, but I think they're past the point of being rescued.
joe rogan
Do you?
You never know.
matt fulchiron
Well, I don't want to put the effort in, but if I can do it like that...
I mean, it just bums me out.
joe rogan
If you could take them to the Amazon, show them the dragon, take them for a ride, and then immediately bring them back and sort of reinvigorate them back into society.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
Yeah, I'd do it.
joe rogan
You would do it?
matt fulchiron
If it took like maybe a week or two.
I'm not going to dedicate my life to it.
joe rogan
You should offer that as a service.
matt fulchiron
I should.
joe rogan
The full charge.
That's what you call it.
matt fulchiron
I'm a comedian, podcaster, and burka liberator.
joe rogan
Yeah, burka liberator.
I like it, dude.
You just take these Arab chicks and just are not having a good go of it.
matt fulchiron
How's your passport, ladies?
joe rogan
How is it?
Is it fresh?
Is it ready for a Peru stamp?
Ka-chunk.
matt fulchiron
Now you're naked.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Next thing you know, you're partying with the full charge.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
They probably never drank before, so they don't know what to do with that shit.
matt fulchiron
We travel by greyhounds.
joe rogan
Yeah, that would be rude to try to get someone drunk for the first time once you've liberated them from their burqa.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's...
You don't have that kind of experience.
You can't just drink.
You can't just drink and party when you've been wearing a burqa your whole life.
matt fulchiron
No.
joe rogan
Reading off some ancient texts.
matt fulchiron
Can't do it.
joe rogan
How long has the burqa been around, if you had to guess?
matt fulchiron
If I had to guess, I would say it's been around for...
unidentified
Fuck.
matt fulchiron
Over 2,000 years, but I really don't know.
joe rogan
Alright, we're gonna find out.
I'm gonna say...
I'm going to say you're right.
How's the burqa?
matt fulchiron
Before BC, my history in BC is very fuzzy.
joe rogan
Alright, here we go.
matt fulchiron
I'm an AD kind of guy.
unidentified
Hmm.
joe rogan
The face-veiling portion is usually a rectangular piece of semi-transparent cloth with its top edge attached to a portion of the headscarf.
Okay, when did it come from?
Islamic text.
The Quran has no requirement that women cover their faces with a veil or cover their bodies with the full-body burqa.
matt fulchiron
That's the name of my burqa.
The full-body burqa.
joe rogan
Full-body burqa.
It's called a chador.
It's not in the Quran.
Many Muslims believe that the collected traditions of the life of Muhammad or Hadith require both men and women to dress and behave modestly in public.
However, this requirement has been interpreted in many different ways by Islamic scholars and Muslim communities.
Some interpretations say that a veil is not compulsory or that it's not compulsory in front of blind men, asexual men, or gay men.
matt fulchiron
But gay men aren't allowed either, are they?
joe rogan
I don't know.
Yeah, you're supposed to get rid of them, right?
They're supposed to hit them with rocks.
Very strange.
matt fulchiron
Say what you want about America.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, the real problem is what we were talking about before.
A lot of these areas, they've been living like this for a long time.
It's hard to get out of that.
It's hard to snap that, stop that culture dead in its tracks and try to figure out a better way to live your lives.
And to do it in a way that is completely alien to thousands and thousands of years of tradition.
unidentified
Right.
matt fulchiron
That's the thing.
You've got to come up with these ideas by yourself and you've got to figure out how to get away from it when no one's there to help you, I assume.
joe rogan
Listen to this.
And say to the faithful woman to lower their gazes and guard their private parts and not to display their beauty except what is apparent of it and to extend their head coverings to cover their bosoms And not to display their beauty except to their husbands,
or their fathers, or their husbands' fathers, or their sons, or their husbands' sons, or their brothers' sons, or their sisters' sons, or their womenfolk, or what their right hands rule.
matt fulchiron
Or their tennis instructor.
joe rogan
That's slaves.
They're slaves.
matt fulchiron
Nice.
joe rogan
Or the followers from the men who do not feel sexual desire.
What?
The followers from the men who do not feel sexual desire, or small children, to whom the nakedness of women is not apparent, and not to strike their feet on the ground, so as to make known what they hide of their adornments.
Strike their feet on the ground so their tits jiggle.
They're saying, don't make your ass and tits jiggle.
Because chicks were twerking in the olden days.
This is an anti-twerking passage in the Quran.
matt fulchiron
That's where it all starts.
joe rogan
That's what they're saying.
matt fulchiron
That's where civilization...
joe rogan
Don't stomp your feet on the ground as to make known what they hide of their adornments.
Whoa.
Man, that's deep.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
Yeah, it depresses me, man.
unidentified
Does it?
matt fulchiron
Well, and didn't you just read that it's not really part of the Koran?
joe rogan
No.
No, it's not.
Well, some Muslim societies don't use it.
matt fulchiron
So, that happens all the time.
Like, religions will just adopt an idea...
Like, there's a lot of Christians that like going to war.
That type of thing.
joe rogan
Well, there's all sorts of weird interpretations of old languages, too.
That's where things get kind of squirrely.
When you're reading some shit that was something that's 2,000 years old or even more.
I mean, the context, like trying to put it in context, trying to figure out what life was like back then.
matt fulchiron
And why are they smarter than us?
Why are we looking to them?
joe rogan
Yeah, why aren't you?
matt fulchiron
I mean, I feel like we're smarter than them.
joe rogan
Yeah, duh.
Duh.
matt fulchiron
That's just me thinking again.
joe rogan
Yeah, but you know what it is, man?
We like old shit.
matt fulchiron
We do.
joe rogan
We love old shit.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
We're doing this because our forefathers did this.
joe rogan
We love the ancient texts, the ancient wisdom, the ancient scholars.
People love that.
They love that they can find something from the past that was, like, forgotten.
The ancient scholars knew all about life, the origins of the universe.
Like, when we find, like...
Something on the wall of some sort of a temple in Iraq, you know, that's thousands of years old, and it's the solar system.
People freak out.
This is amazing.
Look at the knowledge they had.
Like, my six-year-old draws solar systems that good.
I'm not joking.
She drew the sun.
She drew Jupiter and Earth.
She copied it off of a book.
But my point is, that's a shitty solar system that was 6,000 years ago.
Of course our solar system is better.
Have you ever watched Cosmos, you fuck?
Our version of the solar system is way better than that old dumb shit.
Yeah, it's impressive that they did this.
Absolutely.
Yes, it's fascinating.
Yes, it's historically enriching that we could look at this stuff.
I mean, it's a trip.
Have you ever been to the Natural History Museum and checked out some ancient Egyptian artifacts?
unidentified
Yeah, dude.
It's dope.
matt fulchiron
It's fascinating and fantastic.
King Tut, baby.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah, it's fascinating.
You get to look at something that was made thousands of years ago.
People that just lived a completely different way than you.
It's humbling.
matt fulchiron
And Fonzie's jacket.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Fonzie's jacket?
matt fulchiron
No, that's all at the DC, all the DC museums.
joe rogan
They really have Fonzie's jackets?
matt fulchiron
Oh, they got Fonzie's jacket!
unidentified
It's incredibly small.
matt fulchiron
They got the puffy shirt.
joe rogan
Fonzie's jacket's tiny.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
How tall is Henry Winkler?
joe rogan
I don't know.
I had a picture with him.
I took a picture with him.
He's a great guy.
He was on that show, one of the movies that I did, with Kevin James.
Here Comes the Boom.
He was the teacher.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's a great guy.
He's so nice.
matt fulchiron
Yeah, seems like it.
joe rogan
Henry Winker's one of the nicest people I've ever met.
He's just genuinely, openly nice and friendly, and he loves to fly fish.
He loves to go out and fly fish on rivers and stuff.
And he wrote a book about it called, I've Never Met an Idiot on the River.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Probably got really lucky.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
If that's the case.
There's a lot of fucking idiots on the river.
matt fulchiron
Yeah, no.
That's true.
joe rogan
How often do you do those tours where you go out for like three weeks like that?
matt fulchiron
Not often.
Not often.
I've been doing them recently because I've been opening for Kreischer, doing split weeks, and I kind of got to like do a tour to make them work, you know?
unidentified
Yeah.
matt fulchiron
And then I try to hit stuff in between, and then I'll throw in a headlining thing.
It just doesn't make a lot of sense to come all the way back to L.A., but I'm kind of over that, because it's just not that much fun, and it wears you down.
I mean, the Kreischer parts are fun.
joe rogan
The Kreischer parts are great when you go on the road with your buddies, but yeah, three weeks is hard as fuck.
matt fulchiron
Right.
When I'm just chilling in Valley Park, Missouri, and 15 people are showing up a night, it's like...
joe rogan
Is that what it was?
Where were you at?
matt fulchiron
It was like doing the comedy store in Missouri.
Saturday night was good, but...
So two shows were great, and then the other four were just like that comedy store original room style of comedy.
joe rogan
Did you do like Thursday through Sunday?
matt fulchiron
Is that what you did?
Thursday through Sunday.
It's so funny, too, because I only have a couple fans, so actual fans will come up to see me do shows in front of 15 people.
joe rogan
Whoa.
matt fulchiron
You know?
joe rogan
That's got to be weird.
unidentified
It is weird.
joe rogan
For them, it's got to be cool as fuck, though.
matt fulchiron
They're a little concerned.
joe rogan
They shouldn't.
They should look at it this way.
You're funny, you're talented, and it's just a matter of people knowing about you.
matt fulchiron
Right.
joe rogan
So they get in on the ground floor, they get mad street cred.
matt fulchiron
Right.
They were there.
joe rogan
Oh, dude.
matt fulchiron
They were there.
joe rogan
I saw Richard Jenney perform in front of a very small crowd, a Catch Rising star on a Wednesday night one night in Boston.
I'll never forget that.
It was a half-fold audience.
Nobody knew who he was back then.
But I was like, wow, this is amazing.
So they got to see you when you were eating shit.
matt fulchiron
And I'm half-joking.
The shows were actually all really fun.
They were just like, before the show started, it's like...
15 people.
Here we go.
joe rogan
And that was the whole audience, 15 people.
matt fulchiron
Some nights.
joe rogan
Yeah.
matt fulchiron
It could get up to 20, and I think the good nights...
It could get up to 20. There was two good shows with about 50, 60 people, and those were like a lot of fun, especially compared to the smaller shows.
But it was never horrible because they did laugh.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
But you're funny and that's the hardest thing to do.
So all that matters from here on out is you just keep doing it.
matt fulchiron
Right.
joe rogan
You just keep doing it.
They'll be able to laugh one day.
matt fulchiron
Sure.
joe rogan
They'll be able to say, I saw you in front of 15 people.
matt fulchiron
Right.
joe rogan
In Nebraska.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
And you'd be like, I remember that.
matt fulchiron
This club was kind of ghetto.
After my first show on Thursday, two people walked into the back alley and started screwing up against a dumpster.
joe rogan
That sounds like a great place.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's how you do it.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
But, I mean, it only goes to show you how inspiring I am as a comic.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
You make people fuck.
unidentified
Yeah.
It's true.
matt fulchiron
Make people horny.
joe rogan
A lot of people kill boners with their comedy.
matt fulchiron
Yeah, exactly.
joe rogan
You excited them.
matt fulchiron
Not me.
I make it sexy.
joe rogan
Where was this?
What club?
matt fulchiron
Valley Park, Missouri.
Funny Bone.
It's only been open since like October.
joe rogan
Is there a chain of Funny Bones or do they buy the name?
How does that work?
Because they seem to be independent.
matt fulchiron
I don't fully understand it.
There's people that own...
There's one guy that owns a bunch, and then I think it's like a franchise you can kind of buy in or something.
joe rogan
Like, what about the Funny Bone of Columbus?
matt fulchiron
That's a guy named Dave Stroop owns a lot of those.
joe rogan
Oh, he owns more than one of those?
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's a good dude.
matt fulchiron
Yeah, absolutely.
joe rogan
Worked for that guy many times.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That club's great.
Columbus?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That place is great.
brian redban
I heard they just remodeled it also.
joe rogan
Oh, why would they do that?
It was perfect.
brian redban
I think they did something like they just made it bigger.
That was always kind of weird.
They never really had a green room.
joe rogan
That's bad.
Yeah.
That's weird.
You have to go to Dave's office and hang out, but whatever.
You're in Columbus, Ohio.
You can't get all highfalutin'.
Yeah.
You got to deal with what you got to deal with.
But I'm doing Austin.
Coming up soon.
I'm doing Cap City.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because I'm getting ready to do my comedy special, so I'm doing a week at the club.
They painted over all the writing in the green room.
matt fulchiron
What's wrong with them?
joe rogan
So dumb.
That was history.
matt fulchiron
You think the full charge wasn't fucking written up there?
Because it was.
joe rogan
I'm sure it was.
matt fulchiron
It's under some paint now.
joe rogan
Yeah, that was history.
That wall was covered in history, and they decided to make it pretty.
Whoever did it was just a boner killer.
I don't know who did that.
Whoever you are out there, you know who you are.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
Whoever gave it the green light, whosever idea it was, ugh.
Atlanta Punchline still got it.
brian redban
My favorite one, I think we talked about this, my favorite thing was right in front of the toilet.
It said, keep the toilet seat up so maybe it will make women not want to do comedy or something like that.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
Keep women out of comedy.
matt fulchiron
Oh my God.
joe rogan
The best is the Atlanta Punchline.
That back room still has writing everywhere.
matt fulchiron
I haven't been there.
I'm going there in August.
joe rogan
You never did it?
matt fulchiron
I'm going there in August, I think.
joe rogan
You've never done it?
matt fulchiron
Never done it.
joe rogan
Ooh, it's a classic.
It's one of the best clubs.
matt fulchiron
Awesome.
joe rogan
It's a real legit awesome club.
Old school as fuck.
You look on the wall, you see an old Barry Sobel picture.
matt fulchiron
Right.
joe rogan
One of those.
matt fulchiron
Love that shit.
joe rogan
Kenny Rogerson photo up.
matt fulchiron
Yeah, like Zany's in Nashville will not take down the old headshots.
joe rogan
And they shouldn't.
matt fulchiron
No.
joe rogan
They shouldn't.
Zany's in Nashville is another one.
It's another classic spot.
But on the back room of the Atlanta punchline, it says, quit trying to be Hicks.
That was so appropriate, too, at the time.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
In the 90s.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
Oh, dude.
Everyone I knew...
Tried to be Hicks.
We all got caught up in it.
I went to two open mics and somebody actually handed me a tape with Bill Hicks on it.
It was Woody Allen and Bill Hicks.
One side was Bill Hicks, one side was Woody Allen.
joe rogan
What did you like better?
matt fulchiron
I definitely like Bill Hicks better.
joe rogan
I listened to this thing at the time.
matt fulchiron
I probably still do.
I'm not sure.
joe rogan
Do you take off any points because Woody Allen's a perv?
matt fulchiron
No, not for that.
I assume he wasn't that much of a perv back then.
That does actually bother me.
Not as much as a woman in a burka.
It does bother me, but I still kind of like to watch his movies.
joe rogan
Right.
He's a good movie maker.
matt fulchiron
Yeah, so I guess.
But I think that's kind of fucked up.
joe rogan
Yeah, for sure.
Well, there's a picture of him at the basketball game when his daughter was young and she's sitting on his lap and she's really little.
And then there's a picture of him at the basketball game many years later and they're holding hands as a couple.
matt fulchiron
Yeah, it's so weird.
joe rogan
It's just, whoa.
matt fulchiron
I don't think that's okay at all.
I really don't.
joe rogan
That's deep.
That is a completely different kind of experience.
That's deep.
You were there when that thing, that person, was a baby.
A little small child.
I don't know.
matt fulchiron
You don't know.
I don't know either.
joe rogan
I don't know.
I choose not to speculate.
I watched a...
I'm not callous about it.
Obviously, I denounce it.
I'll say that.
It's gross.
I don't know any of the particulars.
I barely paid attention to that whole case.
I just don't like to...
Whenever I see...
People in those sort of terrifying situations, the man, the woman splitting up, the man going after the girl's daughter, and they're together now, and I'm like, oh, I don't want to feel any of your fucking crazy pain.
But I was listening to a thing the other day.
I didn't know it was an interview.
I thought it was Woody Allen's comedy, and I downloaded it.
And it was Woody Allen talking about stand-up.
And it was him talking about all of the different kinds of joke writers and different...
And this is a long-ass fucking time ago.
And it was really kind of interesting, man.
It was really interesting to listen to him from like, gosh, I don't know.
I mean, if I had a guess, I'd say it was probably like the 1950s or something like that.
And he's talking about comedy.
If I had a guess by the references that he was using, maybe the 60s.
But he's talking about stand-up and he's talking about different...
And a lot of the shit that he was saying back then still holds true today.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
Yeah, I think he was part of that kind of hipster, original, alt-room...
Comedy, like they just used to do it at makeshift places in the village and not necessarily clubs or comedy clubs or strip clubs or however, whatever was traditional back then.
joe rogan
Yeah, isn't that wild?
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like they would do it, they would do it in like, they would open for people too, like for bands and stuff like that.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
They would do stand-up.
matt fulchiron
Yeah, and they'd just do it in coffee shops and stuff.
It's really weird because the stand-up comedy that we know today really started in the 70s, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
matt fulchiron
Maybe the 60s?
joe rogan
The 60s?
Well, it was Lenny Bruce, really.
matt fulchiron
Right.
joe rogan
That's the number one.
That's the first seed, I think.
There was a bunch of other guys like that there that was sort of in that vein at the time.
They were coming along with him back and forth, but he was the original.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
And there's even old Rodney Dangerfield where he tries to do a Lenny Bruce style where it's a big long story.
You know how Rodney Dangerfield's known for one-liners?
joe rogan
Yeah.
matt fulchiron
He used to do these really long-form jokes about getting his car fixed and riding in an airplane.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Woody Allen on Comedy is the name of it.
It's available on Amazon if anybody wants to get it.
It's just ten different things.
Ten different short little clips that they have broken up into segments on different topics.
Really interesting.
Really interesting.
I've always been fascinated by the writing style.
Everybody's got their own sort of style.
And I'm also fascinated by how few people actually write.
matt fulchiron
Right.
joe rogan
When you find out that there's a lot of comics that don't actually sit down and write, like, whoa.
matt fulchiron
You can't fake it for an hour, buddy.
joe rogan
Yeah.
matt fulchiron
You can't just sit down with some coffee and scribble.
joe rogan
Lazy bitch.
I know.
You have the opportunity to be a professional comedian.
You've actually figured out a way to make it through that, and you're not even writing anything down.
matt fulchiron
It's crazy.
Because even if you write all the time and you record a lot of your thoughts and stuff, there's still so few, so little amount of material that makes it to the stage.
joe rogan
Yeah.
matt fulchiron
So, like, if you're doing nothing, then nothing's happening.
joe rogan
Well, that's those guys that you run into ten years later and they're doing the same act and you're like, oh, you poor bastard.
matt fulchiron
Right.
joe rogan
You poor bastard.
matt fulchiron
It's not even changed like not even two minutes of it is different.
joe rogan
Well, it's like comedy is so scary sometimes that sometimes you just get a little life raft of an act and you just want to sit on it and just wait.
matt fulchiron
Because that new joke, it's a painful thing, dude.
It's a painful thing.
joe rogan
That's why it's an awesome growth process to do it the way Ari does it or Burr does it or Louis C.K. does it to do it that way.
Abandon ship.
Imagine if bands had to do that.
Every year they abandon ship.
matt fulchiron
Yeah, no, they'd be in trouble because they gotta play the hits.
That's for sure.
joe rogan
That's the difference between comedy and music.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
The only one who got to play the hits in comedy was Dice.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
I heard Rodney got to play the hits.
joe rogan
Yeah?
I bet.
matt fulchiron
That's what I heard.
I forget where I heard that, but I believe it.
joe rogan
Those are different times, though.
That was a different era, you know?
You ever see Rodney live?
matt fulchiron
Never!
He's one of my favorites.
joe rogan
I got to see him a few times.
I got to see him late in life, too.
I got to see him at the Laugh Factory, like, real late.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, he was, like, in his 60s, hanging out with some 40-year-old chick.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
They were still partying.
unidentified
Right?
That's so funny.
joe rogan
Took him back to my place, you know what I'm saying?
Oh.
matt fulchiron
I always think it's really funny that when I was a kid in the 80s...
I wasn't heavily into Rodney Dangerfield, but I'd go see his movies.
joe rogan
Yeah.
matt fulchiron
Which is weird.
Like, what 11-year-olds are going to see movies about 60-year-olds now and laughing?
That's really weird.
joe rogan
It's so true.
That's a great way of putting it.
matt fulchiron
You know?
joe rogan
But he was also someone that everybody loved.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, you didn't think of Rodney as, like, an old guy.
matt fulchiron
Definitely not.
joe rogan
Yeah.
You would think of other old guys as, like, old guys.
matt fulchiron
He's like the coolest guy in Back to School.
unidentified
Yeah.
matt fulchiron
He's the coolest guy in the movie, and he's the oldest guy in the movie.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Who was his romantic interest?
matt fulchiron
That's that woman that does like the teacher, professor?
Hidden Valley commercials.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's right.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
She was a professor.
unidentified
She was in Meatballs 3. How old was she at the time?
joe rogan
Dangerfield was like 60, if you had to guess.
matt fulchiron
She must have been somewhere around 50. Yeah.
Maybe a little younger.
joe rogan
Really?
matt fulchiron
I don't know.
I have a hard time with that because I found her very attractive.
joe rogan
How attractive?
Like you would bust a move?
matt fulchiron
Yeah, I think I would.
joe rogan
Really?
matt fulchiron
I think I would.
joe rogan
What's your age limit you would cut a chick off at?
I think around 55. Whoa, you're a generous man.
matt fulchiron
I mean, it all depends.
It all depends, right?
joe rogan
It depends on if she goes to yoga...
matt fulchiron
There's some good-looking 55 out there.
joe rogan
There are now.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
There are now.
matt fulchiron
It's getting scientific.
joe rogan
Have you seen Christy Brinkley?
matt fulchiron
Yes, and that's exactly the type of thing I'm talking about.
joe rogan
How old is Christy Brinkley now?
matt fulchiron
She's up there.
joe rogan
She's hot as fuck.
brian redban
Have you seen Helen Hunt lately?
joe rogan
No, I don't need to do that.
brian redban
There's this movie called The Session.
joe rogan
What are you trying to kill my boner?
We're talking about Christy Brinkley.
unidentified
We were going...
joe rogan
Bringing up Helen Hunt.
You're going the wrong way.
brian redban
I know, but you've got to hear this.
joe rogan
Let's pull up a picture of Christy Blankie to cleanse my palate.
matt fulchiron
Let's take this conversation slow.
This is getting exciting.
brian redban
There was this movie called The Session, and if you just look up the preview of it, it's about this guy that has an iron lung, and he's very like Stephen Hawking in the movie, just laying there going, oh, and stuff.
And so Helen Hunt's like his therapist or something, and he goes, she's like, oh, you need to get laid.
So she starts taking off her clothes, and you see her full bush, her body.
joe rogan
Wait, wait, wait.
What movie is this?
brian redban
It's called The Session.
joe rogan
Is this an old movie?
brian redban
No, this came out like two years ago, and it's just Helen Hunt fucking this retarded guy, not retarded, this iron lung guy.
And it's just creepy as fuck.
It's just a creepy version of Helen Hunt.
Her face looks weird.
And you just see her bush and she's having sex through the whole movie.
joe rogan
Pull up that picture.
matt fulchiron
Sounds pretty good.
joe rogan
Christy Brinkley, bitch.
Disgusting me.
Yeah, that's current.
matt fulchiron
Okay, and she's gotta be how old?
joe rogan
She's old.
brian redban
Look at her throat, though.
matt fulchiron
Whatever, dude.
joe rogan
A little tuck.
matt fulchiron
Make her wear a scarf.
joe rogan
Get her into horse riding.
matt fulchiron
I would make her drive in a convertible and chase me around while I drove in a station wagon.
joe rogan
Uptown girl.
Well, if you compare the way she looks today and the way she looked when she was with Billy Joel, not that difference.
Compare the way Billy Joel looks today and the way Billy Joel looked when he was with Christy Brinkley, I think she's a vampire.
I think she stole his soul.
brian redban
Do you think this threatening is caused by cock?
Just tons of cock in her mouth for years?
unidentified
No, it's age, bro.
joe rogan
Your skin gets bad.
She's 60 years old.
matt fulchiron
Most likely, Brian.
joe rogan
Most likely.
She's 60 years old.
You don't respond to them that dumb.
It's amazing.
She looks fantastic.
matt fulchiron
Absolutely.
joe rogan
That's as good as a 60-year-old woman has ever looked in the history of the world.
matt fulchiron
Yeah, and that's what I mean.
joe rogan
We're talking about exceptions when I say 55. Yeah, you're not looking at her and going, oh, she looks good for 60. You're looking at her and going, damn, she looks really good.
She's hot, man.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
She's hot.
And her body's really nice, too.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
Christy Fulcheron.
joe rogan
Kapow, kapow.
I'll take it, son.
matt fulchiron
I'll take it all day long.
joe rogan
Yeah, you make out with her.
brian redban
I'll take that throat gutter.
joe rogan
It's not that bad, dude.
Her throat doesn't look bad.
matt fulchiron
You're focusing on the wrong thing.
joe rogan
Yeah, what do you...
You got a mirror, bitch?
matt fulchiron
You're gonna be very unhappy.
joe rogan
You should go focus on that.
brian redban
I don't know.
That throat gutter's weird.
joe rogan
Yeah, it ain't that bad, dude.
Come on.
She's hot as fuck.
You're out of your mind.
You're looking at her neck.
You're looking at a still image.
matt fulchiron
Who cares about that thing?
joe rogan
You're so dumb.
You're out of your mind.
brian redban
She needs to shave her neck a little.
joe rogan
Brian, that's nothing.
You're saying nothing.
You're making noise with your face.
matt fulchiron
You're really frustrating me right now, Brian.
joe rogan
Yeah.
There's nothing going on with what you're saying.
You're just fixating on necks.
Necks get a lot worse.
Speaking of necks, there's a video that I tweeted today.
It's fucking hilarious.
matt fulchiron
Yeah?
joe rogan
It's some climate change denier lady, and she's got a weird neck.
You look at the picture on my Twitter, and you'll see what I'm talking about.
But it's one of the dumbest climate change denial videos I've ever seen in my life.
For whatever reason, I don't know what this is, but there's a lot of, like, down-home country-type people that want to tell you climate change is a myth.
matt fulchiron
Like Oswald?
joe rogan
This is her.
This is her.
See?
unidentified
Look at that neck!
joe rogan
You compare her neck to Christy Brinkley's neck, I'll take Christy Brinkley's neck all day.
But play the video, because it's quite hilarious.
It's so strange, in fact, that it's hard to believe that there's a lot of people like that, but that she's going on about climate change.
Climate change is a myth.
unidentified
Why are they so upset?
Congress!
I said something very provocative.
I said that global warming is a hoax.
Naturally, liberals in the lamestream media became unglued and attacked me immediately.
But as George Orwell once wrote, in the time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
A specter is haunting America.
It is perhaps the greatest deception in the history of mankind.
It has been almost 10 years since failed presidential candidate Al Gore put out his propaganda film, The Inconvenient Truth, proclaiming that the actions of America's energy industry are causing a catastrophic rise in the Earth's temperature.
But quite inconveniently for Al Gore and for the rest of the politicians who continue to advance this delusion, any ten-year-old can invalidate their thesis with one of the simplest scientific devices known to man, a thermometer.
The earth has done nothing but get colder each year since the film's release.
God certainly has a wonderful sense of irony.
President Obama knows it's getting colder.
He was foolish enough to blame our recent pathetic economic growth on record freezing weather.
And then he turned around and launched a new debate on global warming.
In the Obama administration, down is up, 2 plus 2 equals 5, and ignorance is strength.
Last summer, Antarctica reached the coldest temperature in recorded history.
There's record sheet ice and a 60% rise of ice in the Arctic Sea.
Polar bears have been forced out of their habitat because of overpopulation.
Liberals have professed that global warming would cause an increase in severe weather systems, such as hurricanes.
And they blame global warming every time these dangerous storms take place.
But experts agree, over the last several years, storms have decreased.
Perhaps the biggest clue that this is one big scam was swept under the rug by the lapdog media.
A computer hacker obtained access to the mail server at the Climate Research Center of East Anglia in the UK and downloaded over 1,000 emails proving without a shadow of a doubt that these so-called scientists had falsified data.
The conspiracy of global warming has had a devastating effect on the American dream.
The rise of modern society since the first refinement of crude oil in 1847 is no coincidence.
America's energy producers fueled the Industrial Revolution, which caused never-before-seen advances in living standards for the masses of ordinary people.
It was the burning of oil that energized the foundation of a real middle class in the 20th century, giving them access to new luxuries such as electric lights, refrigeration, and automobiles.
It was free market capitalism that created the wealthiest society the Earth had ever seen.
But now, both capitalism and our energy industry are under attack, and the hoax of global warming is the dagger.
matt fulchiron
It's exhausting.
joe rogan
What the fuck?
Can you imagine if you had that chick over for a dinner party?
matt fulchiron
And she just keeps going.
joe rogan
She started hitting you with that.
Can you imagine?
matt fulchiron
And she's reading off fucking cue cards?
Because that did not sound like her ideas.
joe rogan
No, she was reading.
Well, it might have been her ideas, but she was definitely reading something that was written out in advance.
matt fulchiron
I do notice, and this is like total nitpicking, but they're quoting this movie, they're shitting on this movie, An Inconvenient Truth.
joe rogan
Right.
matt fulchiron
They got the title wrong.
joe rogan
What is it?
matt fulchiron
They said the inconvenient truth.
And I know I'm nitpicking, but if that's your main argument, it's weird that they're not looking it up.
joe rogan
Well, I have a theory.
matt fulchiron
What's that?
joe rogan
I think she's dumb as fuck.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
For sure.
She's dumb as fuck, but not available.
unidentified
Right.
matt fulchiron
That was the best take they got.
So they're like, ah, fuck it.
It's the inconvenient truth.
joe rogan
Dumb as fuck, but not available.
Not available.
Doesn't know she's dumb as fuck.
Probably thinks she's pretty smart.
God has a wonderful sense of humor.
A thermometer.
matt fulchiron
I like when Obama was stressed out about the cold.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's very stressed out.
He gets stressed out.
It's getting colder every year and he knows it.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's a picture of him.
Obama knows it.
matt fulchiron
Right.
And again, I love how they throw back to a hundred years ago.
And they go, look, this worked a hundred years ago, man.
What's the problem?
joe rogan
The reason why ordinary people, it raised the life standard for ordinary people.
Ordinary people.
What's an ordinary person?
Ordinary?
Like, she's like making a plea towards the ordinary.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
Plead towards the mediocre, like me.
matt fulchiron
Right.
joe rogan
Mediocre, small-minded people with shitty synapses.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like myself.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
Regular Americans.
joe rogan
Meanwhile, that bitch is running for Congress!
In Louisiana!
matt fulchiron
And she's gonna get elected.
joe rogan
Can you imagine?
She's pro-industry.
Do you not understand what that means?
That's what gives people jobs full charge.
Keeps America strong.
matt fulchiron
Right.
joe rogan
America's a bunch...
I mean, there's a bunch of great things about America.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
America's pretty awesome.
matt fulchiron
No burkas.
joe rogan
But there's a bunch of dumb shit in America that likes to call itself America.
matt fulchiron
Right.
joe rogan
You know, American values, American standards.
And it's people that have that sort of, this kind of mentality, this sort of just low voltage, sludgy, sloppy thinking.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
brian redban
But she's hot enough that she'll probably get in, just based on looks, probably.
joe rogan
Chicks are hot as fuck in Louisiana, dude.
matt fulchiron
Oh, it's great.
joe rogan
Women are hot as fuck down there.
That chick's got no chance.
If a hot one runs against her, all she has to do is show up at, like, farmer's markets and talk to people.
matt fulchiron
Right.
joe rogan
She's in.
It's just on hotness alone.
matt fulchiron
So what about what she's saying, though, where she's like...
It is colder this year and there is more ice in Antarctica.
joe rogan
Is that true?
matt fulchiron
I don't know.
joe rogan
Is global warming real?
unidentified
I'm pretty sure everybody believes it's real.
matt fulchiron
Everyone kind of brings their own facts.
joe rogan
The only arguments that I've heard at all that make any sense whatsoever is that human addition to global warming is just one factor and that there's a cycle that happens all the time but humans are accelerating that cycle.
I've heard that argument.
That makes a lot of sense.
That makes more sense to me than humans have no effect on it and it makes more sense to me than humans are the cause of it entirely.
I have a feeling that if you look at all those When those guys do those core samples and they find out the temperature of a thousand years ago and they start examining the earth and the crust for all these different layers and some of them they can tell temperatures and asteroidal impacts and all this different thing.
It's pretty obvious that a bunch of stuff's been happening.
We've had ice ages.
We've come and go.
We've had hot spells.
When the dinosaurs were alive, apparently it was like completely different atmosphere much thicker atmosphere, right?
I read this thing about they were trying to speculate as to why the dinosaurs were so large and One of the things was that it might have been because the atmosphere was different It was a thicker more rich atmosphere that just naturally facilitated larger animals larger creatures, especially lizards, right?
Global warming is it real?
The global warming controversy.
Is global warming real?
What we know about global warming.
The skeptic society says it's real.
How we know global warming is real.
Human-induced climate change, atmospheric carbon dioxide concentrations, are higher today than at any other time in the last 650,000 years.
They're about 35% higher than before the Industrial Revolution, and this increase is caused by human activities, primarily the burning of fossil fuels, carbon dioxide...
It's a greenhouse gas, as are methane, nitrous, I'm going to sneeze, nitrous oxide, water vapor, and a host of other horse shit.
So yeah, it's global warming.
It's real.
matt fulchiron
It's real.
joe rogan
Okay, that makes sense.
I'm going with them instead of that chick.
matt fulchiron
Why is it hard to accept that things are going to change?
joe rogan
Well, you know full charge.
At my church, we have these discussions about the lamestream media and trying to figure out why the lamestream media continues to lie to America.
When she said lamestream media, at that point, you've got to go, we can't just keep talking.
We can't keep talking.
matt fulchiron
Right.
You think that's acceptable.
joe rogan
And she said it like she was shutting them down.
matt fulchiron
Right.
joe rogan
I'm putting them on blast.
To lamestream media.
matt fulchiron
Take that.
joe rogan
Imagine getting that lady high on mushrooms.
Imagine taking her to the forest.
A bunch of guys.
Not just guys.
That sounds really rapey.
Women too.
A bunch of people.
Everybody drag her along.
Listen, we're just going to get you.
You're going to eat these mushrooms with us.
Then we'll do whatever you want.
We'll vote for you.
We'll do whatever you want.
You just got to do this first.
matt fulchiron
We'll listen to you.
joe rogan
Just give her a big fucking jar of them with applesauce mixed in.
Look at her.
matt fulchiron
The Joe Rogan.
joe rogan
She's kind of hot.
Kind of hot in a weird, milfy way.
matt fulchiron
Now all I can look at is people's necks, though.
joe rogan
That's not even real, bro.
You photoshopped that.
unidentified
I know what you did.
matt fulchiron
You did.
joe rogan
Brian, Brian, you hit the volume.
Jesus Christ.
brian redban
What happened?
joe rogan
You fucking...
matt fulchiron
It's like a big dick right there on the mixer.
joe rogan
You cranked the volume up.
brian redban
The headphone volume.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Did you have the headphone?
Didn't affect the recording?
brian redban
No, just the headphones.
joe rogan
You photoshopped that, you fuck.
brian redban
No, I didn't.
joe rogan
I think we're stupid.
That's a vagina.
It's on her neck.
It's like she swallowed a bow and arrow.
What's going on in her neck?
There's a guy named Arrowhead in her neck.
No, it's not.
matt fulchiron
That's Christy Brinkley.
joe rogan
Is it real?
brian redban
It is.
joe rogan
No.
brian redban
Is it real?
joe rogan
Did you really doctor that up?
Yeah, of course you did, you fuck.
He thinks it's funny.
matt fulchiron
So immature, man.
joe rogan
He put a vagina on a woman's neck.
And a woman is running for Congress.
First of all, it's unpatriotic.
unidentified
Regardless of whether or not you agree with her, you will respect her.
matt fulchiron
It's un-American, Brian.
joe rogan
There are people that believe that.
That you're supposed to respect that person.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
You're not supposed to mock her.
matt fulchiron
Right.
joe rogan
First of all, she's a lady.
Second of all, she's a congressman!
A representative!
She's gonna become the president one day.
Imagine if that's where we went.
If we went full fucking...
full apocalypto.
matt fulchiron
I couldn't handle that.
joe rogan
Climate deniers just fuck it up so bad that the oceans start to boil.
All the fish get cooked.
We all have to move to the center of the...
We all have to live in South Dakota.
Turns out people can all live in South Dakota.
matt fulchiron
Everyone.
joe rogan
Everyone.
That's all that's left.
Everything else is just hot water.
You gotta go where it's really fucking cold.
So Canada becomes the number one spot.
matt fulchiron
All of a sudden.
joe rogan
Yeah.
There's only 20 million people in all of Canada.
matt fulchiron
That's wild, huh?
joe rogan
Yeah.
That's LA. That's crazy.
I'm pretty sure that's right.
Let's see.
How many people are in Canada?
I'm pretty sure I read that.
How many people live in Canada?
matt fulchiron
I haven't spent too much time in Canada.
joe rogan
Oh, that's great.
matt fulchiron
I've been to Montreal.
That's fantastic.
And I've been to Winnipeg.
joe rogan
Winnipeg is 34. 34.8 million people.
So, yeah, what is that?
That's like L.A. and 20 million.
L.A.'s like 20 million.
I bet it's like the West Coast.
I bet it's the whole West Coast.
If you took the whole West Coast from, certainly from Mexico, but I mean from like San Diego all the way up to Washington State, I bet you would get 40. And so that's all of Canada?
That's all of Canada.
The whole thing.
matt fulchiron
Right.
joe rogan
The whole giant North America.
matt fulchiron
That's wild.
It's cold.
I mean, it's cold.
What can I tell you?
joe rogan
But not if global warming happens.
matt fulchiron
That would really work out.
joe rogan
Follow me, brother.
matt fulchiron
That would really work out.
joe rogan
What we need to do.
I have a friend who lives in northern Alberta.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And he just bought, or he's looking at this land.
There's 160 acres for $70,000.
unidentified
Wow.
brian redban
Yeah, Greenland might be the new go-to Hawaii place in the future, or Iceland.
joe rogan
Yup.
If it's not under the ocean.
That's the problem.
You gotta really hedge your bets when you're looking towards the future.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, like you sit in a guy's office.
Well, there's a whole thing about global warming.
It's an opportunity, okay?
And it's always an opportunity.
You know there's someone out there looking at it.
But prognostication, I mean, it's a tricky business.
You've got to really speculate.
I mean, a lot of people are going to drown, and there's a lot of bleeding hearts.
You're going to have a problem with that.
You know, look, those people are going to drown anyway.
What I'm looking at is what's going to be above ground.
matt fulchiron
Right.
And what we've come up with is Nova Scotia is much higher altitude.
joe rogan
I've got two words for you.
North Pole.
brian redban
All right.
matt fulchiron
I'm listening.
joe rogan
How would you like a house overlooking the ocean that isn't there yet?
Okay, well, all we need to do, my friend, is get permits.
Not only can I give you a permit, but I can name a star after you.
unidentified
All right.
joe rogan
Sign here on this.
Remember those little star registries?
matt fulchiron
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
You pay money and they name a star after you?
matt fulchiron
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
They're not naming a star after you.
Will you shut the fuck up?
Probably got a star named after me.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Fucking St. Nicholas star.
My name's Nick.
I figure I'm gonna have a star.
I should be St. Nick.
St. Nicholas the star.
matt fulchiron
For the price of a cup of coffee, I bought my own store.
joe rogan
$25.
$25.
brian redban
What if in the future we have the technology to go to all these planets that they named and stuff, and you actually get to own it based off a $29 purchase?
unidentified
That would be fantastic.
joe rogan
I don't think they named planets.
Planets are rare and difficult to find.
Stars are up there.
There's enough stars that I think they had the...
I mean, really fucking brilliant if you think how stupid people have to be that you pay someone to write on a piece of paper that the star is named after you.
It's not your fucking star, man.
And by the way, that star doesn't give a shit what you name it.
You just got permission from another person who doesn't have that permission to name a fucking star after you.
brian redban
Isn't a star an explosion?
You're named after it, you name it an explosion.
unidentified
Not only that, it might not even be there.
joe rogan
It might not even still be there.
Some of those lights that you see in the sky are from a million years ago.
Millions of years ago.
Millions of light years away.
So the light that's reaching you right now, it might have already burnt out.
matt fulchiron
Sure.
joe rogan
Might have blown out.
matt fulchiron
Right.
joe rogan
Maybe a little bit.
They first figured out about those hypernovas sometime during, I think it was like the early 2000s.
They first...
I want to say...
No, no, no.
That was when they first figured out that inside every galaxy was a black hole.
But they came up with this new detection equipment.
And I forget what the year it was.
I should probably look it up while we're talking about it.
But when did they invent hypernovas?
But they found out...
Vent...
Discover hypernovas?
Because they didn't invent them.
Hyper...
matt fulchiron
So there's...
This is where I get really dumb.
There's black holes in every galaxy, you said?
joe rogan
They believe that there are, in every galaxy, and this is fairly recent over the last decade, they believe that at the center of every galaxy is a supermassive black hole that is one half of one percent of the mass of the entire galaxy.
So the bigger the galaxy, the bigger the black hole.
And that inside each black hole may be another universe.
matt fulchiron
Okay.
That's fine.
That checks out.
joe rogan
It's a bit of a mindfuck, my friend.
A bit of a mindfuck.
matt fulchiron
Do you ever see that movie, The Black Hole?
It was like a fake Star Wars?
brian redban
Yeah, Disney.
joe rogan
I don't remember that.
What was that?
matt fulchiron
It was like an imitation Star Wars movie.
joe rogan
Oh, no, it wasn't.
matt fulchiron
Yeah, it was.
brian redban
It had really cool robots in it.
matt fulchiron
Yeah, it was somewhat popular.
But, you know, obviously it wasn't as good as Star Wars.
brian redban
Do you remember Buck Rogers?
unidentified
Yeah.
brian redban
That was the bomb.
joe rogan
Okay, it was in 1990, the 1990s, that they figured it out.
In 1998, a paper suggesting a link between gamma ray bursts and young massive stars formally proposed the term hypernova.
They had some sort of a measuring equipment.
And they were detecting so many explosions in the sky that they thought there was a war amongst aliens.
matt fulchiron
Really?
joe rogan
This is something that was actively being considered because all throughout the day, apparently, like all day long, if you have the proper measuring equipment, you can detect hypernovas that are taking place way out in the far reaches of the galaxy.
And what they are is like they're stars that are blowing up.
So it's happening, like, all over the universe.
But these bursts are so strong, if they're anywhere near us, we'd be dead.
matt fulchiron
Right.
joe rogan
Like, if they were at a nearby star, or a nearby solar system, and it went hypernova, that's a wrap.
matt fulchiron
That's it, huh?
joe rogan
That's a wrap.
That's a wrap for this whole galaxy.
Kind of nice.
All life, most likely dead.
matt fulchiron
Right.
joe rogan
Yeah.
matt fulchiron
That's a good way to go.
joe rogan
A nearby hypernova, let's Google what it would say.
Nearby, dangers of a nearby hypernova.
matt fulchiron
Death.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm pretty sure.
I mean, there's so many stars out there that I don't know if it would be possible, but if it...
I mean, it certainly would be possible.
I don't know how likely it would be, but...
unidentified
But the numbers of stars are just, it's insane.
joe rogan
Hundreds of billions.
Just in our galaxy.
I don't think you can even understand.
That's just numbers, right?
matt fulchiron
Yeah, it doesn't make any sense to me.
I can't really.
joe rogan
Destruction of Earth by a nearby supernova.
unidentified
Oh, this is on the NASA page.
matt fulchiron
Be careful, Joe.
unidentified
Be careful.
joe rogan
To destroy the Earth itself, the sun will have to go supernova, which it never will.
If you're talking about life on Earth, then there is a detailed calculation of the risks due to nearby supernova on the web.
Oh, there's actually a thing that calculates the risks.
The author concludes that a supernova has to be within 10 parsecs or 30 light years to be dangerous to life on Earth.
That is because the atmosphere shields us from most dangerous radiations.
Astronauts in orbit may be in danger if supernova is within a thousand parsecs or so.
So if they were up in space, it would be a thousand parsecs, so a hundred times more.
So 300 million light years.
Or 300 light years, rather.
Wow.
Crazy, man.
No star currently within 20 parsecs will go supernova within the next few million years.
unidentified
Whew.
matt fulchiron
That's a relief, man.
joe rogan
I feel so much better.
matt fulchiron
That's my biggest fear.
joe rogan
That would be a motherfucker, dude.
Just one day, it all goes bright.
matt fulchiron
I listen to the lamestream media all day.
joe rogan
The lamestream media.
matt fulchiron
I'm constantly paranoid of things.
joe rogan
They could call it a hypernova all they want.
What I know is it's angels coming.
matt fulchiron
Them's just lightning bugs.
joe rogan
When angels come, the satellites go down.
unidentified
Right.
matt fulchiron
Right.
God has a great sense of evil.
joe rogan
The lamestream media would want you to believe that the supernovas are to be feared.
But God's plan includes all of us.
matt fulchiron
God's plan.
joe rogan
Amen.
When is that going to go away?
matt fulchiron
I don't think it will.
joe rogan
When is that accent going to go away?
matt fulchiron
I think people love it.
I think they love it and they're going to keep it going as long as they can.
joe rogan
I think they should keep it going just for the chicks.
matt fulchiron
Yeah, right?
joe rogan
For the chicks alone.
It's the best accent ever for chicks.
matt fulchiron
How y'all doing?
It's the best.
It's the best.
joe rogan
It doesn't get any better.
But for dudes, it's a little hickey.
I think if you're a country music fan, it could work.
If the guy's a gentleman, it could work.
But if the guy's explaining thermonuclear power, you'll be like, what?
It's a fucking hickey cocksucker.
unidentified
Throw some Harvard on there.
joe rogan
Basically, we're working with fusion, and the way fusion works is we have the nuclear reactor, and we fuel the water into the broads, and it creates steam, and then the steam...
Oh, you shut this fucking guy up and get a real scientist in here!
Get someone from Harvard, someone with a good, strong New England accent.
Exactly.
But you listen to people from Harvard, scientists from Harvard, no Boston accent whatsoever.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Have you noticed that?
matt fulchiron
Yeah, they're transplants, right?
joe rogan
No, they're smart enough to know that accent sucks.
matt fulchiron
Right.
And it's going to devalue all their arguments by eight points.
joe rogan
Yeah.
The only time that accent doesn't suck is if you're drinking.
Then it's okay.
matt fulchiron
Yo, that is great.
I mean, I love to listen to it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
If you're drinking and you're hearing stories, but if it's the judge and he's about to sentence you and he's got a Boston accent, you're like, oh, Christ.
matt fulchiron
You're like, it's going to be a big one.
joe rogan
Matt Fultron, please approach the bench.
When your car feared off of that road because you had been drinking, you violated the laws of Weymouth, Massachusetts.
unidentified
Oh.
matt fulchiron
Do you ever hear Bill Burr tell that story about how he's in court, and they're reading his testimony, and the cop asks him, where is he going?
And he said, fucking Boston.
And he goes, but Bill explains, like, nah, you know, I'm from Boston.
It's like, when he asked me, I was just thinking when I was saying, like, fucking Boston.
I wasn't cursing like you think I was.
joe rogan
Yeah, not like it's like an indignant statement.
matt fulchiron
I wasn't trying to be rude, I was just thinking.
unidentified
Where are you going?
joe rogan
Fucking Boston.
matt fulchiron
They read that off a piece of paper at his court case.
joe rogan
That's so funny.
That's the problem with the word fuck, that it's kind of the word uh sometimes.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
You fucking, um, fucking, this fucking, fuck, fuck this guy, this fucking guy.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
If you saw that on paper, you'd be like, this is a really angry person.
matt fulchiron
Yeah, right.
joe rogan
You know?
matt fulchiron
But it's just a guy with a bad vocabulary.
joe rogan
That's why Twitter doesn't work, man.
Context.
It should all be in context.
matt fulchiron
Absolutely.
joe rogan
You don't get context when you just read it.
matt fulchiron
No.
Even if you know the person you're reading from, it doesn't always work.
joe rogan
Sometimes it works if you know the person you're reading from.
Like, rise and shine cocksuckers when it comes to Joey Diaz.
matt fulchiron
Sure.
You know it's 6am and it's time to get up.
joe rogan
Yeah, you know exactly what that is.
Joey Diaz did this thing recently where he was talking about being proud to be an American.
He did this rant and then they put the national anthem over it.
Pull it up.
He did a rant with the national anthem.
He's like, can you get me going?
unidentified
Put the fucking national anthem on.
matt fulchiron
Have you ever been up like crazy early in the morning?
joe rogan
And listened to it?
Yeah.
matt fulchiron
And he's also up on Twitter at like 5am.
unidentified
Oh yeah.
joe rogan
He gets up really early.
matt fulchiron
Just giving people music to listen to.
joe rogan
He's always done that.
He's always gotten up really early and he's always gone to bed really early too.
Try calling Joey at midnight.
matt fulchiron
Really?
joe rogan
Joey's dead.
He's asleep.
He's out cold.
matt fulchiron
So what time does he normally go to bed?
joe rogan
Does a show, leaves a show.
I mean, he'll, like, we do a 10 o'clock show.
He'll get to bed at 1 o'clock in the morning, 2 o'clock.
But he doesn't like to do that.
He likes to be in bed by, like, 11. Huh.
I'm in bed by 11. I'm in no danger.
Yeah, he likes to, um...
But he's up.
unidentified
American.
American.
joey diaz
Okay, so the fucking Mexicans are taking your job.
The Russians, the Armenians, cut it the fuck out.
unidentified
Go down there.
joey diaz
This country is 240 fucking years old, correct?
In 1776, they became a country because we're back.
Play the fucking national anthem because they got me fired up.
unidentified
240 fucking years we've been around.
We are the greatest.
We help fucking everybody.
But guess what?
Don't mistake our fucking kindness, the fucking weakness.
We're still fucking American.
And you gotta get up every morning and fuck that little circle of loser friends you have that tell you, don't go down there.
They're not gonna hire you.
They're not gonna hire you because you have that fucking loser attitude walking in.
You're going to grab your fucking balls.
You're going to take a shit.
You're going to wipe fucking your ass.
You're going to brush your teeth.
You're going to put gel on your hair.
You're going to fucking whatever the fuck.
Put your mouthwash in your fucking mouth.
And you're going to go down and you're going to go, listen, I know you're not hiring, but I'm the best motherfucker available to you.
You know why?
Because I'm a fucking American, okay?
Whether I'm black, a chink, I speak.
Whatever the fuck I am, I'm a fucking American.
And I'm gonna outwork all these motherfuckers here.
Give me ten hammers.
Ten fucking hammers.
What time you close?
Five?
I'll be here when you fucking get here.
At six, cocksucker.
You're a fucking American.
Stop fucking whining.
I'm sick of you motherfuckers.
240 years, we've been slinging dick, and you're still whining about the unemployment rate.
What unemployment rate?
It's only in your fucking head.
You need to eat your fuck...
I'm sorry.
After a weekend with a bunch of fucking Gentiles.
Get up!
It's Monday.
It's a beautiful fucking day to be alive.
matt fulchiron
I hope he doesn't live in an apartment.
His neighbors will hate him.
joe rogan
If he does, he doesn't care.
matt fulchiron
I know.
I like how he just basically did what the Jerky Boys did.
He told you to do what the Jerky Boys do.
Like, I'm the fucking best!
I run circles around you motherfuckers!
You got nobody down there that works like me!
unidentified
That's exactly what a Jerky Boy phone call would be like!
joe rogan
The Jerky Boys missed their time.
They did a movie and everything like that, but the Jerky Boys, if they had been on the internet, Yeah.
If the Jerky Boys came out today, some of those fucking things would have millions of hits.
Yeah.
But we had to pass those tapes around.
You know when we passed those around?
matt fulchiron
Yeah, that was one of my favorite things that ever happened was the Jerky Boys.
joe rogan
You would get it from a friend.
A friend would get it, and somehow or another they would make a copy for you, and they'd get you the Jerky Boys.
That's how it became famous.
matt fulchiron
I bought it from a friend.
He goes, I feel bad selling you this because...
After you listen to it twice, you're never going to listen to it again.
I've been quoting this shit every day for 20, 25 years.
I fucking love the Jerky Boys.
We were quoting them today!
Yeah, absolutely.
joe rogan
Dude, they had some funny shit.
matt fulchiron
Oh my god, it's so rude.
joe rogan
The one guy was really good.
The one guy was really good.
One guy was okay, but the other guy was really fucking good.
matt fulchiron
Phenomenal.
joe rogan
I don't know which guy was which, but really fucking funny stuff.
If you go back and listen to it today, laugh.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
brian redban
Rosenberg.
joe rogan
That was one of those things, it was like, if you did pranks back then, it was hard to get appreciated.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
It was hard to, you know, to do something along those lines.
And then, remember when Jimmy Kimmel had a TV show?
Crank Yankers?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And he had puppets?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Puppets, and comics would do the prank phone calls?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And they would call, and puppets would reenact it?
brian redban
That's crazy.
joe rogan
That was hilarious.
I totally forgot about that show.
matt fulchiron
Jim Florentine's thing was the best.
joe rogan
What was Jim Florentine's?
matt fulchiron
It was just the guy that goes, yay!
I'm gonna come to your store, lady, where is it?
And every answer was, yay!
And he called everyone lady, whether you were a man or a woman.
How much to see Air Bud, lady?
unidentified
Five dollars!
Yay!
joe rogan
It's brilliant.
unidentified
That's hilarious.
matt fulchiron
And there's one where Mitch Hedberg called up and wanted to join a guy's band.
That one's fucking phenomenal.
joe rogan
He called up and wanted to join a guy's band?
matt fulchiron
Yeah, it was like he saw a WAN ad that was like, we're looking for a guitar player.
And he called up and said, oh, but I'm kind of a singer too, man.
Check out these lyrics, man.
joe rogan
Go right to that one.
Go right to that one.
Crank Yankers, Mitch Hedberg, band.
matt fulchiron
I think it's hard to find.
joe rogan
Oh, you'll find it.
He'll find it.
He knows how to use the internet.
matt fulchiron
Oh, okay, okay.
joe rogan
He's not like you, full charge.
unidentified
Gotcha.
matt fulchiron
No, I give up after three seconds.
joe rogan
He's got magic fingers and a good sense of Google.
matt fulchiron
Yeah, I haven't even called AT&T to tell him my internet's down.
joe rogan
Mitch Hedberg, Crank Yankers.
unidentified
I like how he's playing a character, too.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
You gotta see this.
unidentified
Hello?
Hey, is Jerry there?
Yeah, can you hold on for a second?
Uh, no.
Is he there?
How are you doing?
matt fulchiron
You were just turning down your music.
unidentified
That's why you put me on hold.
Yeah, exactly.
That's cool.
I thought you had a secretary or something.
Really?
How about now?
No, now I can hear you fine.
Well, I'm talking the same level, man.
Your ears are screwy.
I'm a musician, man.
I'm calling you up because you're looking for some jam partners, right?
Yeah, actually.
What we're looking for is a singer.
Well, yeah, man.
I play guitar mainly, but singing is no problem.
If you put a mic up to my mouth, I'll belt it out.
Yeah, well, we're looking for a real lead singer.
If you want me to sing, I have like a real, you know, I like to like yell like, ah, you know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah.
Do you like that kind of singing?
Well, sometimes.
I hate melody, you know, I'm purely against melody.
Where are you calling from?
I'm calling, I'm from my phone here.
No, I mean, you live in Nassau or Suffolk?
I'm part of the, I'm part of the Suffolk death metal contingent, you know?
So you're more into the heavier stuff?
Oh yeah, the heavier the better, man.
I mean, Well, if you want, I'll take your name and number, and if the other guys are interested, we'll call you back.
Alright, man, but I know people at MTV, too, you know, so you should probably hook up with me.
What's your name?
My name is Mitch.
Mitch?
And I got long hair.
Okay.
Yeah, man, it's way past my nipples.
Well, I don't have a phone right now.
I spent all my phone money on distortion pedals and stuff.
You ever write a song about a unicorn?
No.
I wrote this kick-ass song about a unicorn.
It's like a unicorn who has a story, though.
The unicorn goes through the ups and downs, and then in the end, the unicorn...
I'll tell you what.
I'm just going to be rehearsing now, so you know what?
Let's jam right now over the phone.
No, I got to go.
Okay, let's just play a tune right now, me and you.
I got people in my house right now.
Oh, really?
Yeah, so call me in a week or so.
Alright.
Take it easy.
Later.
matt fulchiron
His voice is just music to my ears, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, especially now so after he's gone.
unidentified
He did other ones?
No.
joe rogan
He's doing bong hits on the cat.
Oh, that's the end of it.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
And what was the other one, the Jim Florentine one?
matt fulchiron
Jim Florentine.
His name is Special Ed, I think.
joe rogan
Is that still legal?
Can you still do that?
Can you call people up?
It used to be that you could do it as long as you did it in Vegas.
matt fulchiron
That's their loophole.
I don't know what the deal is now.
This show probably ruined it, you know?
joe rogan
The show?
What?
matt fulchiron
Crank, crank, crank.
joe rogan
Oh.
I wonder.
unidentified
It is Willie.
Can I help you?
Yes.
I'm trying to track a package that was supposed to be delivered to my sister.
When was it supposed to get there?
joe rogan
What is this?
unidentified
It was supposed to get to her address on the 17th.
On the 17th!
Yeah, but they didn't make their first attempt.
matt fulchiron
I think the character's name is Special Ed.
joe rogan
But that seems weird.
Like, she's calling them to try to get a package tracked, and they're fucking around.
matt fulchiron
There's a couple guys.
Jim Florentine and Don Jamison do this thing called the Touchtone Terrorists, and they have a number that a lot of people call as a customer service number, and they also do telemarketers.
joe rogan
So the people that call, they think it's an actual customer service number.
matt fulchiron
Yeah, I might be getting some of that information mixed up.
joe rogan
That's fucked, because what if somebody, because it seemed like that's what she was doing.
It seemed like she was calling like she had a real problem.
matt fulchiron
Right, I've heard this one before.
joe rogan
That's even worse than calling somebody, right?
matt fulchiron
Yeah, it's kind of fucked up.
joe rogan
That's even worse.
Like, if they're calling you, they've got a real issue they need to fix.
matt fulchiron
No.
Yeah, you know what Florentine does is he just tapes every conversation and when telemarketers call him, he fucks with them so bad.
joe rogan
That's smart.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, that should be totally legal.
matt fulchiron
Yeah, that should be.
joe rogan
Yeah, that should be the one time where you could get away with stuff like that.
Just fuck with telemarketers.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's a miserable job, though, man.
To make that job more miserable to people and fuck with them.
matt fulchiron
I can't imagine.
unidentified
Hi, Belinda.
This is Ed.
Well, hi, Ed.
So you got Air Bud?
The video?
Yeah.
I've got Air Bud, yeah.
Yay!
I love Air Bud.
Yay!
I want to come down there and get it.
Okay.
Um, okay.
Do you have The Shining?
We do.
I'm scared.
Can you take it out of the store before I get there?
I sure can.
All work and no play makes Ed a dull boy.
Oh.
Laceps!
joe rogan
Okay.
unidentified
Yay!
joe rogan
What the fuck?
matt fulchiron
You know what this is?
unidentified
Ed, I've got some other customers here that I really need to help.
Ed isn't here, mister.
Okay.
Ed isn't here, mister!
matt fulchiron
You know what this is?
This is someone...
No, someone took the sound bites and did their own prank phone calls.
That's why it's not that good.
You know?
unidentified
Huh.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
That's why I was repeating all this stuff.
joe rogan
Oh, wow.
You sure?
matt fulchiron
I'm pretty sure.
joe rogan
You sure it wasn't just psychotic?
No, I'm pretty sure.
It seemed like it was just psychotic.
matt fulchiron
Yeah, I think that was somebody else using a soundboard.
joe rogan
I don't know, that would be a good call if you just did it like that.
It was so crazy.
Yeah, that was a big thing for a while, pranking.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know?
Not so much anymore.
matt fulchiron
No, I used to do it without recording it, which is fucking...
Sounds kind of dumb.
joe rogan
Did you ever see the one where the dude was walking up to people and he's asking them if they want to kiss his ass?
He's like a donkey in his pocket.
matt fulchiron
Just saw that.
joe rogan
Do you want to kiss my ass?
Do you want to kiss my ass?
And this one guy sucker punches him and knocks him out cold, knocks his teeth through his lips.
Yeah.
matt fulchiron
The guy just loses all control of his body in one second.
joe rogan
Well, he just got knocked the fuck out.
unidentified
He got clocked.
joe rogan
I mean, it was bad.
His lip was torn.
His cheek was torn open.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
He could see through his cheek to his teeth.
He got punched through his lower lip.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
The point where his teeth went through his face.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
matt fulchiron
He asked the wrong guy the wrong question.
joe rogan
Well, the guy told him to back the fuck off.
Yeah.
And he was still like, do you want to kiss my ass?
He thought he was being cute because he was getting filmed.
And then he was getting like...
People were calling fake...
Because he wasn't mad, like, when he was getting interviewed after, you know, they had a camera on him, like, he was on his way to the hospital.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
He was all fucked up, and like, no, that's bullshit.
He would be pissed off if that guy punched him.
Like, no, he's an idiot.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
He thinks it's cute.
matt fulchiron
Not smart to begin with.
joe rogan
He thinks it's funny that he got knocked out.
matt fulchiron
Do you ever see the one where the kid jumps out of a trash can and the guy punches him?
joe rogan
Yep.
That's a classic animated GIF. Right?
matt fulchiron
That's so great.
joe rogan
That's a classic one.
matt fulchiron
That's so great.
joe rogan
Someone used to have that as their avatar on my message board.
matt fulchiron
That's so funny.
joe rogan
They would pop up, boom!
The guy would hit him and you'd go right back into it.
brian redban
You see that video that somebody released where it was like an MMA fight or a small, like some kind of fight, and then the judge starts beating up the two guys because he tried to break them up and they wouldn't break up.
So then the judge just, the referee starts just beating them up.
He's...
joe rogan
I don't want to see it.
It's okay.
Yeah.
I'm sure it happens.
matt fulchiron
It's so great how we have so much footage of so much nonsense.
joe rogan
World Star!
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
I saw a bad World Star one the other day where some guy knocks this guy out onto the hood of a car.
He just steps up to this guy.
The guy's sitting there.
He's sitting next to a car.
He steps up and smashes him in the face, knocking him out cold.
The guy goes flying back into the grill of the car and then crumples.
The other guy's yelling, World Star!
And I was like, really?
Like, the humanity.
There's a certain segment of the human race that doesn't give a fuck about the rest of the human race.
matt fulchiron
That's true.
joe rogan
They really don't give a fuck.
matt fulchiron
That's true.
It's kind of scary.
joe rogan
And you can find that segment represented well on worldstarhiphop.com.
matt fulchiron
Absolutely.
joe rogan
They don't mind punching each other in the face, or punching you in the face.
matt fulchiron
Yeah, it's fine.
It's just part of life.
joe rogan
Did you see the one the other day?
I think Bill Burr tweeted it.
It's a kid.
He's riding his bicycle.
He pushes his bicycle, punches his kid in the face, jumps off the bike, runs by, punches his kid in the face, then jumps on the bike.
brian redban
Yeah, he was ghost riding.
joe rogan
He was ghost riding his bike, sucker punched his kid in the face, and then jumped back on the bike and ran away.
matt fulchiron
These little kids tried to sucker punch me one time in Baltimore.
I was lifeguard in his pool.
joe rogan
Really?
matt fulchiron
And they wanted to go swimming, so they just walked up.
They were like eight years old, and they go, hey, come here, I want to tell you something.
Dude goes to punch me.
I move out of the way.
They all jump in the pool, jump out, and run away.
joe rogan
Whoa.
matt fulchiron
And that's actually the story.
joe rogan
Jump in the pool, jump out, and run away.
matt fulchiron
Yeah, they just wanted to jump in the pool for a second.
joe rogan
Did they show the kid picking on the kid first?
brian redban
Yeah, at first there was...
Here, you can see the whole thing right here.
joe rogan
We don't see it, Brian.
unidentified
Gotta go to the crib, nigga!
Gotta go to the crib, nigga!
Damn.
joe rogan
So he rides off.
They got upset.
The smaller guy rides off on his bike.
He's also the one that used the N-word.
And he turns around and starts heading back down the road.
It seems like they planned this out.
brian redban
Oh, I think it's planned.
unidentified
He's coming back!
He's coming back!
joe rogan
Ghost rides the bike.
brian redban
Punches him.
joe rogan
Punches him.
Chases the bike.
And then jumps back on.
unidentified
He just falls down!
matt fulchiron
Either way.
joe rogan
That's an eight-year-old world star.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's what that is.
That's a world star when you can't knock people out yet.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
If you punch people, they don't get desperately hurt like they do in the other videos.
matt fulchiron
They just get mildly annoyed.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Part of it's more fucked up because they're eight, but part of it's way better because they can't do as much damage.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
But part of you knows they'll be doing that at 80. Of course.
matt fulchiron
Of course.
joe rogan
If they can stick in that neighborhood, if they can stick it out, they'll be doing something way worse.
That guy will be in a way better video 10 years from now.
matt fulchiron
With a better bike, too.
It's going to be like solar powered.
joe rogan
You think so?
matt fulchiron
I don't know.
joe rogan
Dude, I saw a bike at a bike shop the other day where it was a vintage bike.
Do you know the people who are into vintage bikes?
matt fulchiron
Sure.
joe rogan
It is an old piece of shit bike, and it was $5,000.
matt fulchiron
I believe it.
brian redban
What bike shop was this?
joe rogan
It was just a regular bike shop.
I went in to get something for my kids, getting little kid bikes, and they had a vintage bike.
And it was an ugly piece of shit.
It had like rust.
It was coming through the chrome.
The seat was kind of fucked up.
And the guy was like, it's all original parts.
I was like, what?
matt fulchiron
Right.
joe rogan
I go, how much is this?
The guy was like, $5,000.
It's a classic.
This is worth something?
matt fulchiron
Can I ride this?
No, no, no.
joe rogan
This isn't a car.
Like, they're trying to do the same shit that they do with, like, old cars.
Like, if you buy a 55 Chevrolet, you go, whoa, original dash.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
This is amazing.
But a bike?
A bike from that era?
Oh my god, that's worthless.
matt fulchiron
There's a whole bike culture that we're just not into.
joe rogan
I guess.
matt fulchiron
These guys, they're just all about their bikes.
Brooklyn is insane.
joe rogan
Really?
matt fulchiron
Brooklyn, New York, everyone's got a bike.
joe rogan
Really?
matt fulchiron
It's insanity.
joe rogan
Do they steal bikes?
matt fulchiron
No, there's like these expensive bike shops and there's all these bike paths, especially in Williamsburg, Brooklyn.
It's like a fucking scene and all these guys are into it.
unidentified
Really?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
It's a hipster thing?
matt fulchiron
It's a hipster thing.
joe rogan
Well, that's a good thing for hipsters to be involved with.
At least it's going to get them outside.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know?
Get the hipsters exercised.
brian redban
I'm looking at bikes right now because I leave my bike outside and the weather has just destroyed my bike.
joe rogan
You're looking at bikes to the actual ride or to just sit there and take pictures of it?
brian redban
No, no, it's a ride.
I like riding bikes, especially around Burbank because there's a lot of weird paths.
You know, go to the cemetery where Michael Jackson is all around there.
joe rogan
That'd be great for you, dude.
Ride bikes.
It's healthy.
Yeah, I knew a dude who rode a bike to jiu-jitsu every night, and then he rode home.
He would ride the bike, train, and then ride home.
And I was like, that's got to be a lot of work.
He's like, yep, but it gets you in incredible shape.
You get used to pumping, but I also think it's like the worst time to be breathing heavy when you're around brake fumes.
matt fulchiron
Yeah, I heard it's not that good.
joe rogan
Dust and...
matt fulchiron
I heard it's actually kind of bad for you to do cardio next to the...
joe rogan
Traffic?
matt fulchiron
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, and it's not like you could take that bike through the fucking woods.
matt fulchiron
You can't.
joe rogan
Not really.
unidentified
Mountain bike.
matt fulchiron
It's terrifying riding a bike around L.A., though.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah, it is.
People are texting and shit.
unidentified
Yeah.
brian redban
Not in Burbank.
Burbank's not even, like, L.A. Oh, nobody texts in Burbank.
joe rogan
They're not even people.
brian redban
No, but there's, like, no traffic in my neighborhood.
joe rogan
It's the influence of The Tonight Show.
There's something about the way Jay Leno ran that room.
matt fulchiron
Right.
joe rogan
For all that area, it's, like, super safe to drive.
brian redban
Did you hear that book that's coming out all about Jay Leno's past guests, like all these weird things that happened, like how when Jessica Simpson was on, she demanded a $15,000 haircut before she got on, like all these weird demands.
joe rogan
Oh, weird things that people demanded?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
I would bet there's a lot of that prima donna shit.
That went on.
matt fulchiron
I heard Jessica Simpson did like 30 takes on The Tonight Show one time.
joe rogan
30 takes of a song?
matt fulchiron
They just kept going, kept going, and they planned on editing the shit out of it.
joe rogan
Was it a song?
matt fulchiron
Uh, yeah.
joe rogan
Is that back what you're saying?
matt fulchiron
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Remember when her and her husband, J-Row, producer, reveals A-list guest's most outrageous demands?
unidentified
Oh, Jesus.
brian redban
Behind the curtain, Michael Moore.
joe rogan
Oh, it's a guy who did it.
brian redban
Michael Moore.
Yeah, he was the producer.
Michael Moore threatened not to go on just before the show taped unless the producers agreed to air his homemade video.
He had us over a barrel and admits that he caved in but didn't invite more back.
joe rogan
Huh.
Wonder what that was about.
brian redban
Quentin Tarantino was drunk as fuck.
matt fulchiron
What's wrong with that?
brian redban
They sent Bill Clinton a $12,000 custom bike after his 2004 heart surgery.
Clinton kept the bike but never made his appearance.
matt fulchiron
How old was the bike?
joe rogan
Oh, that's hilarious.
brian redban
Sarah Palin asked for a private jet to fly her from Alaska to Burbank for her 2010 appearance.
It cost $35,000 and they gave it to her.
joe rogan
Oh my God.
Well, that was probably a scoop back then to get her.
2010 when they first announced that she was running for president.
So if 2010 was when they first announced it for the 2012 elections, that means that right now we're about on target, right?
It's 2014, so this year is when we're going to start seeing the real election rumblings.
matt fulchiron
Into next year.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Who's going to run for president?
matt fulchiron
I don't know.
Are we out of bushes?
We're out of bushes, right?
We got a Jeb.
Yeah, we got a Jeb.
joe rogan
And he's been quiet.
He can secretly sneak in.
Silently, stealthily sneak in.
Right?
unidentified
Probably.
brian redban
I'm voting for Roseanne.
joe rogan
Roseanne Barr?
unidentified
She voted?
brian redban
I think she did last time.
joe rogan
She believes in chemtrails, but I love her.
brian redban
Oh.
joe rogan
I don't know if she does anymore.
matt fulchiron
I listened to that episode.
joe rogan
I explained it to her.
I hope she listened.
matt fulchiron
Yeah, yeah.
She totally believed in it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
So did Crash.
Crash from the float lab yesterday.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's big on chemtrails, too.
matt fulchiron
Huh.
joe rogan
Chemtrails.
I see them in the sky.
That's what they always say.
I see them.
I see them.
matt fulchiron
That's because they're there.
joe rogan
Excellent point.
Who else is running?
They got that Ted Cruz guy, right?
He's a Republican that gets talked about a lot.
There's Hillary Clinton who just fucked up because she tried to say that they were dead broke.
She was trying to make a ploy to poverty saying that when Bill got out of office they were dead broke.
unidentified
Oh yeah.
joe rogan
She should have never said that.
First of all, because they made a lot of money during the presidency, and on top of that, they also had tremendous money coming in right afterwards.
He's made over $100 million just in speaking.
matt fulchiron
Right.
joe rogan
Just speaking.
matt fulchiron
Right.
joe rogan
From then until now, and then writing books and all that other jazz.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
For her to say, we were dead broke, for her to bitch in this fucked up, wacky economy where people can't get jobs.
Like, everybody knows you're rich.
What are you, crazy?
You're really talking about the time we were, oh, we were dead broke when Bill got out of office.
For a whole hour.
Until the first check came in.
Until he did his first one hour speech for $189,000 for 40 minutes of talking.
matt fulchiron
We're doing fine after that.
joe rogan
It seemed to be okay.
Everything was going to be alright.
First year, he made about $80 million and wrote a book.
They got money fucking coming out of their asshole.
Like, what are you talking about?
When you're a guy like Bill Clinton, people will always pay to hear you talk.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's what they do.
That's the lecture circuit.
They'll show up at universities.
Universities have fuckloads of money when it comes to things like that.
Think about how many people go to a major university and pay $20,000 or whatever it is for tuition.
That's a sizable chunk they give to a president.
matt fulchiron
Absolutely.
I mean, I know if you can make a lot doing comedy, I know you can make an awful real lot doing fucking, if you're a former president.
joe rogan
My wife went to see Giuliani speak once when he came to UCLA. It was like post September 11th.
It must have been Waypost because it wasn't that long ago.
Whatever it was, she said it was like the most boring fucking thing she'd ever seen in her life.
She couldn't believe that anybody would pay to see it.
It was like there was no passion to it.
It was numb.
It was just saying nothing.
matt fulchiron
And he just spoke for an hour?
Was there any topic specified?
joe rogan
I think they always have topics.
Maybe he had a book out or something like that.
They go on a lecture tour and they just spit it out with no...
matt fulchiron
Can you imagine public speaking without the pressure of...
Meeting to get laughs.
joe rogan
Well then, the problem is, public speaking without laughs is usually pretty shitty.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
Even, like, a lot of these guys that do lectures, they tell fucking jokes.
Yeah, even TED Talks.
unidentified
Because they know.
matt fulchiron
They know.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Like, you ever listen to TED Talks?
matt fulchiron
Uh, no.
joe rogan
Those TED, you know those things?
Online, those science talks?
Where they discuss...
Uh-huh.
You've never...
matt fulchiron
I don't think I've ever seen one, no.
But they have jokes in them, right?
joe rogan
Oh, dude, you're missing out.
Yeah, people always have humor.
They always break things up with humor.
Right.
matt fulchiron
Yeah, exactly.
joe rogan
You're missing out, bro.
matt fulchiron
You don't know about the TED? I'll get on it.
joe rogan
It's kind of culty.
matt fulchiron
I'm off tour, dude.
I'll get on it.
I got free time.
joe rogan
They're very culty, apparently.
unidentified
Oh, yeah?
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
matt fulchiron
How so?
joe rogan
Well, they want everybody who's speaking to sleep together in the same room.
Yeah.
Like, you would have to share a room.
Like, say, if you and I were speaking, we'd have to share a hotel room together.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
Because they wanted people to get to know each other.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
joe rogan
They wanted to forcibly...
Like, people with money.
Like, Eddie Wong, who's a famous chef from New York, was speaking at a TED conference.
They wouldn't let him get his own hotel room.
They made him stay.
And they got mad at him when he came here to do our podcast instead of stay and meet with all these other people.
Because they have this TED thing, and when they have the TED thing, they meet.
You have a bunch of TED fellows, people who pay for TED memberships, and they come to these things.
They want you to go to events and be there to talk with them and meet with them.
matt fulchiron
Huh.
joe rogan
It gets super weird.
matt fulchiron
Right.
joe rogan
It's super controlling, and not just from one person.
We've heard that from a bunch of people.
brian redban
They censored Sarah Silverman.
They pulled her talk on there.
joe rogan
Yeah, because she was doing what she does, being a fucking comedian.
matt fulchiron
Right.
joe rogan
She was telling jokes and being funny.
matt fulchiron
Yeah.
joe rogan
And they're like, disrespectful.
They censored Graham Hancock.
They pulled his thing down, too.
They invited him to go on, and he came on, and he told this interesting story about psychedelics, and they got upset and censored it, and because they censored it, it got way more attention.
It became hugely popular online.
Hundreds of thousands of hits after that.
And replayed on a bunch of different YouTube sites, too, because people were scared they were going to try to pull it down.
matt fulchiron
Right.
So it's, like, really good videos that are kind of shady?
joe rogan
Some of them are great.
matt fulchiron
The way they run it, or what?
joe rogan
Look, the business is kind of shady.
matt fulchiron
Right.
joe rogan
The business is weird.
I mean, what's shady is, first of all, pulling things down.
Like, they were pulling it down for the Graham Hancock one.
Like, he made a very...
Very detailed argument against pulling it down, and he demanded to know, like, what about what I'm saying is pseudoscientific?
Please explain.
If you're so concerned that you pulled down, like, these are real things.
Like, talking about ayahuasca, these are real beneficial things that people can experience.
The science behind the experience is real.
The history behind the experience is real and documented.
matt fulchiron
Whether you forward it against it, it's very interesting.
joe rogan
And it's his theory.
These are his theories about...
You know, knowledge being gained from taking these psychedelics.
But they pulled him down.
But the Eddie Wong thing is more disturbing to me.
That they told him that they...
Well, not more disturbing, but almost more disturbing because they made him sleep with another person in a room together.
matt fulchiron
I think that's strange.
I don't like that.
joe rogan
Who the fuck are you?
matt fulchiron
That I don't care for.
brian redban
We're grown adults here.
Get my own room.
joe rogan
It's one thing if you didn't have the budget, but if you wanted to pay, but you're like, no, I want you to team up with this guy.
He's a nuclear waste detector guy from Yugoslavia who's giving a speech.
No, I don't hear this guy fart and fucking snore next to me.
This is stupid.
I like privacy.
matt fulchiron
That's like a physical thing when you go up and have to make a speech.
You want a little bit of relaxation, a little bit of privacy beforehand.
joe rogan
Yeah, before we leave, Graham Hancock put this on his Twitter today, and I retweeted it.
Magic potion discovered with potential to end all wars.
It's only a minute and a half, but it's a YouTube clip about when they dosed soldiers up in the 1950s with LSD. Have you ever seen that video?
matt fulchiron
No, I've never seen the video, but I've heard about this.
joe rogan
Oh, it's classic.
Pull it up, Brian, and we'll wrap this bitch up, and we'll go home with this, because it's kind of hilarious.
It's hilarious that, uh...
I don't know what year this was that they did this.
unidentified
The drug was administered in a drink of water given at the start of each day's exercise.
Was this the housewife?
joe rogan
No.
unidentified
Soldiers.
25 minutes later, the first effects of the drug became apparent.
The men began to relax and to giggle.
But this man was more seriously affected and had to be removed from the exercise.
After 35 minutes, one of the radio operators had become incapable of using his set, and the efficiency of the rocket launcher team was also very impaired.
joe rogan
Dead rocket launchers on acid!
unidentified
A few minutes later, the attacking section had lost all sense of urgency.
Notice the bunching and indecision as they enter a wood occupied by the enemy.
Almost immediately, the section commander tried to use a map to find the location of troop headquarters, and a prisoner's escort had to have the way pointed out to him, although it was in plain sight 700 yards away over open country.
Fifty minutes after taking the drug, radio communication had become difficult, if not impossible, but the men are still capable of sustained physical effort.
However, constructive action was still attempted by those retaining a sense of responsibility in spite of physical symptoms.
But one hour and ten minutes after taking the drug, with one man climbing a tree to feed the birds, the troop commander gave up, admitting that he could no longer control himself or his men.
Wow.
joe rogan
And they're all laughing and giggling and shit.
unidentified
He himself then relapsed into laughter.
matt fulchiron
Wow, they had all those weapons.
joe rogan
Yeah, weapons on acid.
They didn't know about acid back then, Full Charge.
They didn't know.
They didn't know.
And they didn't know about the Full Charge.
matt fulchiron
That's for sure.
joe rogan
You can follow the Full Charge on Twitter, and you should, and you will.
It is the Full Charge.
It's that simple.
And if you want to fucking get crazy and spell his name, it's F-U-L-C-H Iron.
Like iron, like the metal.
I-R-O-N. Matt Fultron.
matt fulchiron
Thank you for having me, man.
joe rogan
It was great, brother.
matt fulchiron
Thank you.
joe rogan
Thanks for being on.
Good to see you again, as always.
That's it, ladies and gentlemen.
Ladies and dreams, we'll be back next week, next Monday.
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Enjoy your weekend.
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