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May 11, 2014 - The Joe Rogan Experience
02:56:48
Joe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion - May 10, 2014
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aubrey marcus
07:20
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brendan schaub
39:28
b
bryan callen
26:46
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joe rogan
01:35:28
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andy stumpf
00:01
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jamie vernon
00:09
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joe rogan
What this episode is, ladies and gentlemen, if you're tuning into this podcast, you go, oh, I'm going to listen to an intellectual discussion.
This is going to be fascinating.
No.
This is four guys sitting around, watching the UFC, and we might get drunk.
Okay?
Brendan Schaub is here.
Brian Callen is here.
Aubrey Marcus is here.
And I'm here.
And what we decided to do is, while the fights are going on, we're in my podcast studio.
We figured, fuck it, man.
Let's watch the fights with friends.
Have a good time.
unidentified
Have a couple of cocktails, a couple of adult beverages.
I brought some 2003 Bordeaux.
joe rogan
Did you really?
Where is that?
Let me pour you some.
bryan callen
I'll pour it in a real glass.
joe rogan
I don't want a real glass.
bryan callen
Well, you'll have it.
They call me the aristocrat for a reason.
joe rogan
Anyway, so if you're looking for a regular podcast, skip out.
Look, I got a million of them, but this ain't one of them.
This may not ever happen again, but it's happening right now.
Schaub and Callan and I talked about doing this for a while.
Aubrey just happens to be in town right now, so we're doing it.
Right now we're watching the prelims, and no sponsors.
Well, we're sponsored by Onnit.
Go to Onnit.com, O-N-N-I-T. And get your freak on.
Use the code word, Rogan.
bryan callen
Still waiting for my kettlebell.
joe rogan
Still waiting for you to fucking email me your address, you clown.
bryan callen
I texted to you, bro.
joe rogan
I told you, email it to me, you fucking clown.
I'm not emailing.
Did I not tell him?
unidentified
You did.
bryan callen
I'm not using email.
joe rogan
I told you, email it to me so I can email it to Aubrey.
Oh yeah, I'll get right on that.
I can't get my best friend.
bryan callen
Like everything else.
All I want is a piece of iron.
It's so hard.
joe rogan
It's so hard to email people.
One piece of iron.
Impossible!
bryan callen
One piece of iron for my best friend.
aubrey marcus
Write it down on that little yellow pad there.
bryan callen
I just want to do kettlebell workouts.
joe rogan
He doesn't care about my piece of paper.
You should have seen Brian trying to pull back a 90-pound bow the other day.
It was one of the saddest things I've ever seen in my life.
brendan schaub
He tells me it's all in the technique.
joe rogan
Oh, it is.
It's all in the technique of lifting weights for many years.
bryan callen
Shut up.
brendan schaub
It's all in the technique of being a man.
bryan callen
I wasn't warmed up.
joe rogan
It was so sad.
It was so sad.
My back was like a barrel of snacks.
Anyway, he needs kettlebells, Aubrey.
He needs a lot of things, but kettlebells are also on the main.
aubrey marcus
I don't know if he wants one.
He won't give us the idea.
bryan callen
I want the chip!
aubrey marcus
Maybe he doesn't want it.
unidentified
No!
bryan callen
No, man!
aubrey marcus
Maybe if he has it, he'll look at it.
joe rogan
Let's see what we got here today.
The main fights.
Costa Filippo is a good fight versus Lorenz Larkin.
That's the co-main.
Eric Koch is fighting on this card as well.
Let me pull it up on UFC.com.
UFC.com is a very good website.
But the UFC app?
Boy, does that suck a fat one.
That is a fucking terrible app.
Whoever made that app, how dare you?
brendan schaub
Coach versus Crookshank, it will be the final night.
joe rogan
That's a very good fight.
Eric Koch versus Darren Crookshank is a very good fight.
And Crookshank, who's his last opponent?
brendan schaub
He's so fun to watch, man.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, no shit, man.
Darren is a Taekwondo guy originally.
He's got wild ass fucking kicks.
But he's also putting together the rest of his game now.
brendan schaub
You might have the best nickname in sports.
joe rogan
What is it?
brendan schaub
The Detroit Superstar?
What?
unidentified
What?
bryan callen
It's a little long.
brendan schaub
No, it's dope, man.
bryan callen
Nicknames should be shorter.
brendan schaub
And his style is sick.
I don't know.
unidentified
Uncle Creepy.
aubrey marcus
I think Uncle Creepy takes it for me.
joe rogan
That's pretty good.
brendan schaub
A little creepy.
bryan callen
The Detroit Superstar.
joe rogan
It's not a bad nickname.
bryan callen
What would my name be if I was a fighter?
Brian the Irritable.
joe rogan
The Irritable?
bryan callen
Brian the Grumpy.
joe rogan
You wouldn't have a nickname, bro.
bryan callen
When he doesn't eat, he gets Grumpy Callan.
joe rogan
You really wouldn't have a nickname.
bryan callen
No?
unidentified
No.
bryan callen
What do you mean?
I need a nickname.
unidentified
No.
brendan schaub
You'd be the kid.
joe rogan
No.
bryan callen
What about this?
How about this?
How about this?
Brian, Brendan, Schaub, Gallen!
joe rogan
Mike Rio was the last fight.
God damn, that was a good fight.
In the Mike Rio fight, Darren Cruikshank was on fire.
brendan schaub
Is that where he went?
Kicks, right?
He was landing a lot of kicks.
joe rogan
He was landing everything.
He just looked sensational.
bryan callen
Nuts.
joe rogan
And Koch's a bad motherfucker, dude.
Koch, he's a very talented kid.
I mean, he lost to Poirier, but then he came back and beat Rafael Oliveira.
brendan schaub
He lost two, right?
He lost to Poirier and then he lost to...
joe rogan
Lost to Ricardo Lamas before that.
unidentified
That's right.
brendan schaub
Back to back.
joe rogan
Yeah.
But two tough fucking guys.
Two really tough guys.
Why did you pour this in the glass?
You made sure you poured it in the glass.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Will it taste better in a glass than a warm coffee mug?
bryan callen
Yes, it does.
The bouquet.
brendan schaub
Shut up!
bryan callen
The bouquet.
joe rogan
Shut your mouth!
bryan callen
Bring it to your nose.
joe rogan
Shut your fucking mouth!
bryan callen
Take it into your mouth.
It's an experience.
joe rogan
Eddie Wineland lost today.
brendan schaub
I know.
joe rogan
Got knocked out by this kid who hasn't fought in two years.
brendan schaub
First round.
joe rogan
I believe it was the second round.
brendan schaub
I think it was the end of the first.
joe rogan
Could be.
brendan schaub
Am I crazy?
joe rogan
It might have been.
I was watching it while I was working out, so you might be right.
bryan callen
Who was the guy I lost to?
joe rogan
I'll tell you right now.
I have a computer.
But Wineland, I mean, coming off of a title fight, right?
You know, comes off of that fight, then looks sensational.
In his next fight, he fights...
bryan callen
Did he just get caught?
joe rogan
He fought Eve JoBoin, stopped him, and looked fucking sensational.
No, he fights in a weird way.
Wineland never lifts his hands above his nipples.
brendan schaub
Aggressive, too.
joe rogan
Super aggressive, super strong.
I mean, he's a really good fighter.
He moves his head a lot.
He's got a lot of feints, and he gets away with it.
And the punches come from all kinds of crazy angles because his hands are low, but that's never a good style.
It's just never a good style.
Keeping your fucking hands low is never good.
And this kid cracked him, Johnny Eduardo.
Cracked him with the right hand in the first round.
Yeah, you're right.
Round one.
Four minutes, 37 seconds in round one.
Caught him with a right hand earlier in the round, and then stunned him with one about four minutes, 20 in, and then followed up with another one and dropped him, and his legs just completely gave out.
brendan schaub
Eddie's always that guy who's one away from a title.
Just in that weight class, he's always right there.
One big win, he's there.
joe rogan
Coming off that Yves Jobway fight, where he looked fucking sensation.
andy stumpf
And Jobway's a bad motherfucker, dude.
joe rogan
That was a really good fight.
brendan schaub
And Eddie, what, ranked number four, I think?
joe rogan
Yeah, number four.
brendan schaub
One win, he's close.
joe rogan
Exactly.
He's number four.
He takes this fight against an unheralded guy who hasn't fought in over two years.
This kid hadn't fought in, I think it was something crazy, like 700 days.
bryan callen
God, seven, oh my god.
brendan schaub
Man, top...
That's where it doesn't pay to take fights like this.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're right.
You're right.
Well, a lot of guys sit out, and people give them a hard time, and they say, oh, fighters fight, but you know what, man?
brendan schaub
It's not like that, man.
It's a business.
You should have a manager.
Listen, UFC asked me to fight, I take it.
But at the same time, too, you want to fight the highest-ranked guy, the most famous guy possible.
That's all anyone cares about, man, the highest-ranked guy.
joe rogan
Who have you ever turned down and why?
brendan schaub
Man, the only fight I ever turned down, it was once, I don't remember his name.
Huge guy.
Grappler, Abu Dhabi, fought Pee Wee Herman, lost to Pee Wee Herman, fight of the night.
You know what I'm talking about?
joe rogan
Yeah, I do.
brendan schaub
He retired?
Enormous dude.
joe rogan
God damn it.
Okay, let's Dave Herman pull that up.
unidentified
The Rock?
joe rogan
He really sweats a lot?
Is that the guy?
brendan schaub
This guy sweats a lot.
bryan callen
This guy sweats a lot?
brendan schaub
Man, I forget his name.
bryan callen
Like super muscular?
brendan schaub
And my manager called me with the fight and I was like...
joe rogan
Oh, John Olive Inamo.
brendan schaub
Inamo.
Inamo.
So they called me with the fight and I just got off fighting Noguera.
So I'm not going to go Noguera Inamo.
I was just like, no man, not happening.
And my manager was like, well, let's see what they come with.
I said, alright, well if it's a do or die, I'll take it.
Let's do it.
I'll destroy this guy.
And then they came up with a different opponent.
Came up with Rothwell.
But that's the only fight where I was like, eh, I don't think so, man.
The only time.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a tricky thing, right?
Like when you want to take a fight, if you need a fight, if you need the money you want to take a fight...
But if you're in a situation where they offer you something dangerous on two weeks' notice, sometimes cards fall apart and they try to pull that card together.
They're making a bunch of calls this week to try to get someone to fight Vitor in Brazil because Junior Dos Santos just broke his hand.
Junior Dos Santos is supposed to fight Stipe Miocic.
He broke his hand.
Miocic is now going to fight Fabio Maldonado, who's a 205er who's fat at 205. True.
And now he's stepping up to fight heavyweight, and Stipe Miocic is a top-ten guy, so it's kind of a crazy matchup that probably wouldn't be approved in the States.
brendan schaub
I agree, and I also heard that you can get your money back.
bryan callen
Wait, why wouldn't that fight be approved in the States?
brendan schaub
Is it a 205er fighting a top 10 heavyweight?
bryan callen
So there's a commission that says that's just too much of a mismatch?
joe rogan
Well, not even a 205er.
A 205er that's been zombied.
He's been beaten senseless by a bunch of guys.
He's a tough motherfucker.
brendan schaub
He's as tough as they come.
joe rogan
Fabio Maldonado is so tough that you've got to watch out for him if he fights a big guy because you've got to go, God, this guy takes so much punishment.
He's so fucking tough.
You've got to almost protect him from himself.
brendan schaub
On the other end, though, I can see because Stipe has, in the past, don't get me wrong, Stipe's a beast.
He used to be a training partner of mine.
Super freak, too.
Athlete, too.
Monster.
However, when he fought Struve, he kind of gassed out and got knocked out, correct?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
brendan schaub
Now...
In this fight, I mean, the cardio could be an issue.
And Fabiano boxing is really, really good.
aubrey marcus
Plus, he's got the most rabid fans in the world driving him.
That's true.
We watched him in Brazil.
joe rogan
Yeah.
aubrey marcus
And they'd go crazy for Fabio Maldonado.
joe rogan
Well, Maldonado is just as tough as fuck.
aubrey marcus
He's the hero.
joe rogan
He's tough as fuck, man.
And he's probably one of the best body punchers in the sport.
My concern would just be the size, just the sheer size difference.
What, does St. Pierre walk around at 230?
So who's this right now?
Who's fighting right now?
Jamie, give us some volume so we can at least hear it.
Hearing it is fine.
Chris Cariasso and who's he fighting though?
Give us some volume.
Bruce Buffer with the official introduction.
The coolest fucking thing is watching Bruce Buffer introduce fighters in Brazil.
Because everybody together goes, It's time!
15,000 people will be doing it in sync.
bryan callen
No way!
joe rogan
It's amazing.
It's one of the coolest things ever.
bryan callen
He's actually great.
He's got that great voice.
joe rogan
Bruce Buffer's the best.
He really is.
He's the best.
brendan schaub
The best.
Bruce Buffer, I've seen him at Gold's Gym.
I work out there in the off-season.
I saw him in Gold's Gym, on the cable machine, doing the Bruce...
What was it?
The 180 turn?
bryan callen
No!
brendan schaub
He works it out.
unidentified
Bruce!
bryan callen
It's so explosive!
brendan schaub
I didn't see him, and I'm walking through the gym, I hear...
Hybrid!
In front of everyone?
I was so embarrassed.
So embarrassed.
joe rogan
Oh, that's funny.
bryan callen
He's good, though.
He doesn't have a card with him or anything.
He just remembers it all.
joe rogan
That's not true at all.
He has a card constantly.
He throws the cards on the ground.
What are you talking about?
He reads off the cards.
He throws the cards on the ground when he's done.
bryan callen
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Fucking jackass.
Get your facts right.
bryan callen
I was talking about The Rock again.
Shit.
joe rogan
By the way, all you cunts that get mad at me for giving Brian a hard time, do you know I'd love this motherfucker like a brother?
And I would give him a hard time if it was a podcast or no podcast.
bryan callen
Exactly.
joe rogan
That's how friends hang with each other.
bryan callen
People get sensitive for me.
Thank you, everybody.
joe rogan
It's fun.
bryan callen
Thank you, America.
joe rogan
Thank you for standing up for me.
And by the way, he'll do that to me, too.
bryan callen
Correct.
joe rogan
Okay?
That's what friends are all about.
bryan callen
Just not on the podcast.
This is the Joe Rogan podcast.
joe rogan
I just don't have as many weaknesses as him, so it's more difficult to find holes.
bryan callen
Less openings?
joe rogan
But if he finds holes in my game, he will chip at them.
bryan callen
That's exactly right.
joe rogan
That's one of the things that friends are for.
brendan schaub
I like the USA Judo sponsorship.
bryan callen
Keep each other honest.
Keep each other honest.
We've got a good friend.
brendan schaub
It's about time they jump on board.
joe rogan
What's that?
brendan schaub
USA Judo jumping on board.
joe rogan
Is that an official sponsorship?
brendan schaub
And USA Wrestling jump on, yeah.
joe rogan
Well, USA Wrestling's been on for a while.
Yeah, it is.
bryan callen
Hey, Brendan, I feel like when you kick to the body with the top of your foot...
brendan schaub
Man, these guys are fighting!
He did say that last time I watched a fight with them.
bryan callen
But when you kick to the body with the top of your foot, I always feel like that's so risky because you could break the top of your foot so easily.
joe rogan
Oh, shut the fuck up.
unidentified
Hey, man!
bryan callen
Hey, man, we're talking Taekwondo.
joe rogan
No, well, you know, I broke the top of my foot many times on elbows.
bryan callen
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
brendan schaub
Elbows.
That's what you've got to be most concerned about.
bryan callen
You've got to be scared.
joe rogan
Yeah, but look, obviously you can break your fucking shins.
bryan callen
You can break everything.
Yeah, mine are lightning fast because I go up and then I kick.
joe rogan
You see Tyrone Spong break his leg against fucking Gokhan Saki?
Holy shit.
bryan callen
No, I didn't see that.
joe rogan
It's weird seeing a high-level kickboxer do that.
It's super rare.
brendan schaub
I agree, but to me it's surprising not more guys break their legs.
joe rogan
Yeah, it is.
What's weird is like this rash of broken legs.
You know, Anderson Silva, Tyrone Spong.
brendan schaub
I saw Anderson Silva last week looking pretty good, moving pretty good.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, Tyrone Spong is only four weeks out, I think.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's already walking.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's walking on a treadmill, no cast, no nothing.
Got a bolt in there.
bryan callen
What they do now, back in the day when you break your femur or break your bone in half like that, they would keep you off it.
What they do now is within 12 hours, 24 hours, they try to get you walking on it immediately.
And the reason for that, they'll set it and have you actually start putting pressure on it.
Because what they found is that you heal faster because your body rushes calcium to that part of the bone.
Isn't that weird?
joe rogan
That is weird.
Within 12 hours?
bryan callen
Yeah, 12 hours.
joe rogan
How can you walk in a broken leg in 12 hours?
bryan callen
Well, obviously, you don't put a lot of pressure, but when they break their femur skiers, they got those guys on their feet as soon as possible, because apparently, you know, you'd heal much faster.
unidentified
Wow.
Yeah.
joe rogan
So, Cariasso, he's a wild motherfucker, man.
I love watching that kid fight.
brendan schaub
Me too.
joe rogan
And now that he's...
This is 125, right?
These guys are fighting at 125, are they not?
brendan schaub
No.
Flyweight.
joe rogan
Yeah, 125. Because he fought at 135 for the longest time, and he was kind of undersized.
I'm glad they have that.
You know, they're thinking about doing a strawweight, a 115. For guys?
brendan schaub
For women's, obviously, they are.
joe rogan
But for guys, they are?
bryan callen
Strawweight.
brendan schaub
Man, that is a small dude.
bryan callen
That's a small dude.
unidentified
Right?
aubrey marcus
That would be such a nightmare to fight that guy because he'd probably still win and he's so small.
bryan callen
Dude, I boxed with that guy Wayne McCullough.
He'd light you up if you tried to fight him.
I know.
Are you kidding me?
aubrey marcus
It's the worst thing ever.
bryan callen
It just takes so much longer.
119. Ugh.
brendan schaub
What's like Kenny Florin?
You see Kenny Florin in a bar?
Probably going to pick on him.
Dresses like a hipster.
One of the baddest dudes on the planet.
bryan callen
But both my head and your head would fit in Kenny's head.
He's got a giant head.
brendan schaub
Big head.
Nice set of hair, huge head.
bryan callen
When I first saw him in person, I went, that can't be Kenny Florian.
That's the biggest head I've ever seen on that gentleman.
joe rogan
I wonder if there's a real direct correlation between taking a punch and having a big head.
I always joke around about it and talk about it in podcasts.
brendan schaub
I feel like there is.
bryan callen
Well, boxing trainers, I think Emmanuel Stewart said that they look for, when trainers are looking for boxers, they look for a wide face and a short neck.
joe rogan
Well, look at David Tua.
Who took a punch better than that guy?
Look at Roy Nelson.
Look at Mark Hunt.
brendan schaub
Roy Nelson.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, and there's some guys that just, like Tommy Hearns, always had a hard time taking a punch, just has that narrow face, and there's nothing you can do about that.
Just, it is what it is.
We want to talk about a guy who's been in some fucking wars.
Tommy Hearns.
I was watching some Tommy Hearns fights the other day on YouTube.
bryan callen
That jab.
joe rogan
How about when he knocked out Duran?
unidentified
Dude.
joe rogan
He knocked Duran dead.
bryan callen
And he fought at 47, which I can't believe.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, he fought as high as light heavyweight, I believe.
He lost to Iran Barkley.
I think that was at 168. I'm not sure.
brendan schaub
You know what's interesting about this fight is usually you have to have...
So, for instance, homeboy in the cage has red shorts.
joe rogan
Cariasso.
brendan schaub
Yes.
And the other guy has black and red shorts.
joe rogan
Right.
brendan schaub
Both similar shorts.
Usually you have to be complete opposite shorts.
They force you to do that.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's just the bottom of the trim, though.
It's pretty obvious, isn't it?
brendan schaub
You think?
joe rogan
I'd say they're pretty damn close.
bryan callen
Is he a judoka, this guy, the guy, um, um, what's his career?
joe rogan
Smoka?
Well, Kariasso, no, he's a Muay Thai guy.
brendan schaub
Brian's caught on using that term lately.
bryan callen
He's trying.
joe rogan
Judoka?
brendan schaub
Judoka.
bryan callen
First of all, first of all, it's my favorite word.
It's my favorite word.
joe rogan
Don't let Ronda tell him some moves.
bryan callen
It's my favorite word, though.
joe rogan
Harigoshi.
Oh, shit, look at this.
bryan callen
Oh, boy.
brendan schaub
That's tight.
joe rogan
Nope.
Lost the position.
Better let go of that guillotine.
A lot of guys have been catching that Von Flu choke.
brendan schaub
Yeah, man, because they hang under the guillotine.
joe rogan
Look at this.
He gets for it again.
He's not under the chin, though.
He's just neck cranking him.
unidentified
Nice.
brendan schaub
Nice finish at the end of the round.
aubrey marcus
Scrappy end of the round.
brendan schaub
Yeah, a lot of guys hang onto that guillotine, and then all the guy's doing is taking them down, passing side control, and you can't get your glove out.
You know what I'm saying?
You can't get your glove out.
So then you have a choke there.
You're just ramming your shoulder into the artery, and they can't get it out.
joe rogan
It's called the Von Flu Choke.
That's what everybody calls it.
aubrey marcus
Someone just had a big finish with that recently.
brendan schaub
Yeah, Ovin St. Preux.
joe rogan
Ovin St. Preux.
brendan schaub
Against Al Capone.
joe rogan
Yeah.
A guy who was fighting at heavyweight most of his career.
Really undersized heavyweight.
One of the smallest heavyweights ever.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he's fighting Cody Donovan in Dublin now.
joe rogan
OSP is?
unidentified
No, Al Capone at 205. Interesting.
joe rogan
That Von Flu choke, you very rarely see in Jiu Jitsu though.
That's what's interesting about it.
brendan schaub
A good Jiu Jitsu guy is not going to hang on to that.
He's just not.
They're not going to waste their energy.
A high level Jiu Jitsu guy is not going to waste his energy on that.
joe rogan
It's a guy who's kind of panicking in a fight.
brendan schaub
Panicking in a fight, gets taken down and doesn't want the guy to posture so he holds on to the guillotine.
And then when your glove's caught in there, you're screwed, man.
It's a lot of pressure.
I mean, I'm sure you felt it.
But with a glove on it, it's a different story.
When you're stuck, it's like, dang.
joe rogan
Yeah, when a guy really knows how to put that weight on it, too.
He's got a good side control.
He knows how to pin you down and force that shoulder into your neck.
brendan schaub
Yeah, you go to sleep.
joe rogan
Some guys can fuck you up just head-to-arm control when they're passing your guard.
brendan schaub
I agree.
joe rogan
There's different kinds of pressure.
There's wrestler pressure.
There's some guys who get on top of you.
They just...
They know how to put all their weight on a very small point.
There's some guys who get side control on you, but they're laying on their knees.
And even if their side control is solid, if you can't get out of it, you're not hurting.
You're not in pain.
And then there's other motherfuckers that will have all of their weight on the left side of their chest.
And they'll put side control on you and just...
I wear you like a glove.
brendan schaub
It's a science.
It really is.
It's a balance.
I'm still working on it.
joe rogan
It's hard, man.
It's hard.
And it's interesting because I have like a nasty twister side control on the right side.
But then when I do it on the left side, it feels alien.
Because I never go to it on the left side.
brendan schaub
I have some positions like that.
unidentified
It's weird.
joe rogan
You would think that this is a position I know in my head inside and out.
It's not that complex a position.
But on the right side, BAM! It's like a fucking...
Money.
It's like a clamp.
unidentified
Bang!
joe rogan
It's like locked in place.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
But on the other side, I'm like moving too much and I'm slippery.
bryan callen
I wish people could see Joe because he's actually moving around in his chair.
Wiggling.
joe rogan
I'm a wiggler.
bryan callen
He's a wiggler in this corner.
The wiggler.
joe rogan
I'm a wiggler, Brian Callen.
bryan callen
Brian Callen.
joe rogan
I'm a wiggler.
Are you ever going to go back to jiu-jitsu?
bryan callen
I think I'd like to.
brendan schaub
He's talking about on the ride down here.
bryan callen
I miss it a lot.
brendan schaub
And then he goes, well, everyone has neck problems who does jujitsu.
joe rogan
That is true.
A lot of people do.
unidentified
I don't.
brendan schaub
Knock on wood, I feel great.
joe rogan
But you're a big guy.
bryan callen
Yeah.
joe rogan
The real problem is rolling with big guys.
brendan schaub
Don't roll with big guys.
unidentified
Getting stacked.
joe rogan
Getting stacked is a big problem.
And exploding, trying to explode from the bottom.
A lot of times guys get injured doing that.
brendan schaub
You just gotta be smart, Brian.
You're not trying to win Abu Dhabi.
bryan callen
Yes, I am.
aubrey marcus
Just grapple with girls only.
joe rogan
When Brian and I first met each other, I brought him to Carlson Gracie's and he started working out with Sergio Cohen, who's one of Carlson Gracie's black belts.
And he grabbed Sergio's neck, clawed his neck.
Sergio head-butted him in his nose and broke his nose and just smushed him like a bug.
bryan callen
Because I was actually, I went in there like thinking as a wrestler I was going to take these, I was taking like people down because they don't care about that.
joe rogan
Let me clarify, this is not what happened.
He just got aggressive and douchey with a guy who was a big, juiced up, crossing, racing black belt.
bryan callen
I would pay money for that.
joe rogan
He's a big guy too.
brendan schaub
I'd pay money to watch that.
bryan callen
Yeah, I didn't have any respect because I thought, ah, this is the wrestling, it's just bad wrestling.
I didn't know.
joe rogan
So ridiculous.
brendan schaub
I love it.
You're that meathead who's going all hard.
bryan callen
I I was just taking...
I would like...
Other white belts and other blue belts who'd never done any wrestling, so I'd be taking them down.
And then I go with Sergio, who decides to go, let's do some...
You want to go take downs?
And he grabs me, and I was like, oh, well, that's a bear.
joe rogan
He was so much bigger than him.
Okay, now we're back to Fox Sports 1, everybody.
The fights were on Fox Sports 2, and then what happened?
The baseball game was over.
bryan callen
We'll get back to my fight.
brendan schaub
They got off that bullshit baseball game.
What was it, 9-0?
joe rogan
Baseball.
If they invented baseball today, people would spit in your face if you tried to sell it to them.
brendan schaub
I agree.
If you tried pitching to everyone, I'd be like, what?
joe rogan
I got a game.
It could take forever.
Like, fucking cricket.
Imagine trying to pitch cricket.
unidentified
Oh my god.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
joe rogan
Why is he throwing the ball like that?
What is he doing?
Why does he have a paddle?
bryan callen
Bend your arm!
Hold on.
joe rogan
He has a paddle?
The other guy has a paddle.
bryan callen
And why is this game lasting three days?
Three fucking days.
aubrey marcus
You can just nick it and make it go backwards and win?
bryan callen
The game lasts three days.
joe rogan
And there is absolutely no satisfaction even if you whack the ball hard.
brendan schaub
And guess what?
In baseball, if you hit the ball three out of ten times, you're in the Hall of Fame.
bryan callen
Yep.
brendan schaub
Three out of ten.
unidentified
Guess what?
brendan schaub
In the UFC, you win three out of ten fights?
You don't have a job.
unidentified
You're going home.
joe rogan
That's a great way to put it.
brendan schaub
Three out of ten times.
Three out of ten.
joe rogan
You're in the Hall of Fame.
Cariasso throws a very deceptive head kick, too.
He hides his head kicks well.
He'll sneak him over the outside of shoulders, like the right outside.
brendan schaub
Like right over the jab.
joe rogan
Did you see this fucking Deontay Wilder thing?
unidentified
Yes!
joe rogan
Where he beat the fuck out of the internet troll.
brendan schaub
Classic!
joe rogan
The guy he fought, first of all, that guy, the troll, is insane.
Like, clinically, something's wrong with him.
like he's like bipolar or something.
brendan schaub
I want him to knock the troll out like really bad.
The troll had me laughing because they're in the gym and he takes a shot and hits him in the body and then they're like, break it up.
And then the troll just goes, got you to the body, bro.
joe rogan
Yeah, hit you in the body.
unidentified
Oh, I know.
brendan schaub
Hit you in the body, man.
joe rogan
Hit you in the body.
And then they went back at it and Wilder crushed him, smashed him, got him on the ground, dropped him, hit him when he was down.
He's still like, hit you in the body.
I hit you in the body.
brendan schaub
That made me laugh, dude.
I know.
joe rogan
He's got that deep.
brendan schaub
He's going to sleep.
joe rogan
He's got a power guillotine.
brendan schaub
He's going to sleep.
joe rogan
Oh, he's trying to get out of it.
That's a good way to get out of it.
Guys do get out of it that way.
Just drop into their back.
That right there, that's how you hurt your neck.
My fucking neck has gotten hurt so many times because I didn't tap, and I'm like, I'm not tapping, I'm not tapping.
Meanwhile, your neck is ruined for weeks.
brendan schaub
I don't have that ego.
If I'm going with another UFC heavyweight, if we're training together, I'm not tapping.
joe rogan
I don't have that ego.
brendan schaub
However, if I'm at the Grace Academy, man, I don't care.
I do not care.
joe rogan
The idea is that you shouldn't have been in that position in the first place.
You know how to defend it.
brendan schaub
You're going to learn from it.
bryan callen
In UFC, if you're a heavyweight, you have to be under 260, right?
265. Okay, 265. Somebody's saying that there is a number.
There's a perfect weight for a heavyweight.
brendan schaub
240. 240?
joe rogan
Yeah, that's where the best guys seem to lie.
bryan callen
Even if you made the weight class 300 and you had a 300-pound guy, you get destroyed.
joe rogan
Well, the difference is in boxing, it's a little lighter because you don't get a guy to weigh on you.
You have to deal with the fact that you're moving body weight around.
There's a different weight.
In my opinion, Mike Tyson is prime.
The Mike Tyson of the 85, Mike Tyson, that range.
I think he's the greatest heavyweight of all time.
That's my opinion.
Just a lot of other people have opinions.
But I think the Mike Tyson that destroyed Marvis Frazier, the Mike Tyson that knocked out Larry Holmes.
unidentified
About 220. 220 maybe, 218. Crazy speed and power.
joe rogan
Just motherfucking guys.
Just motherfucking them.
But I don't think you could get away with that as a UFC fighter.
I don't think...
And boxing, by the way, doesn't even have a fucking weight limit.
bryan callen
Because he would have been what?
joe rogan
Too small to handle a big guy on top of them.
You know, a guy like Kane takes you down, lays on you, and starts breathing.
brendan schaub
Or you got a guy like Bigfoot who's cutting from.300, man.
You're talking about a different game.
It's always funny to me, and granted, listen, cutting weight, I'm sure, is horrendous.
I've cut from.250 to.225 for Metamorris, and it was tough, but not like these guys, you know, making.155,.145.
But we'll be at the weigh-ins, and nothing drives me more crazy.
Everyone goes, God.
Wish I was a heavyweight.
Everyone tells that to me.
Wish I was a heavyweight.
Oh, do you?
unidentified
Oh, really?
That's cool.
brendan schaub
You're fighting a guy at 155, right?
That's cool.
Because I weigh 238. The guy I'm fighting is 265. I'm scared shitless.
He has 25 pounds on me.
bryan callen
That's a lot of weight.
joe rogan
That's a lot of weight.
I think of 25 steaks.
bryan callen
It's two different weight classes almost.
brendan schaub
25, man.
joe rogan
Yeah.
25 with 16 ounce bones stacked on top of each other.
And then that drops in your head.
Just that.
bryan callen
Is that two weight classes?
Pretty much.
brendan schaub
There's no other division like that.
There's nothing like that.
joe rogan
This guy keeps giving his neck to Cariasso.
Cariasso's on the bottom there.
You're right.
The shorts are confusing because I just thought Smolka was on the bottom there.
brendan schaub
I've never seen it this close.
Usually the UFC doesn't play that game.
You know you're fighting a superstar if they're like, yeah, he gets black shorts.
joe rogan
Oh, if they make you change the color of your shorts.
brendan schaub
Yeah, like Crow Cop, they're like, you're wearing white.
He's obviously wearing the Croatian flag black.
Cool, man.
joe rogan
Nobody ever had to worry about that with Rich Franklin.
He's got the pink shorts.
brendan schaub
He can have them.
joe rogan
Oh, Cariasso's mounted.
Oh, shit.
Smoke is on top of him.
Did you guys see the Zach Cummings fight earlier tonight?
bryan callen
No.
joe rogan
Fucking incredible fight, man.
Incredible.
What a fight.
It was awesome.
Yeah, and Cummings was the underdog and he wound up winning.
brendan schaub
I don't think Mount is a dangerous position as everyone thinks, as it's notoriously known for.
What do you think of that, Joe?
joe rogan
I think in MMA, the problem with the mount is when you go to rain down punches, you give up space.
And when you give up space, guys put their hands on your hips and they pop out.
brendan schaub
Exactly.
Like, people think when you get to mount, like, oh no, it's over.
No.
Especially if a guy knows what he's doing.
Depends on the mount, though.
But if you have your hooks in and you're controlling them, you're not going to be able to punch as hard.
joe rogan
Well, some guys have a nasty mount.
Like, Benavidez has a wicked mount.
Nasty mount.
He does a guard from the mount.
I love that position.
When you mount a guy and you cross your feet underneath his body, you can constrict him the same way you can with a guard.
And Benavidez, if he gets an arm anywhere near your chin, his guillotine game is so strong.
As is Uriah Fabers, as is Chad Mendes.
brendan schaub
All the Alpha team guys.
They're ridiculous when they get your neck.
I'm just saying, as far as taking punishment, if you have a decent mount...
Guard?
Defense?
joe rogan
Yeah.
bryan callen
These guys are evenly matched.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a hell of a scramble.
bryan callen
This is a great jujitsu match, actually.
joe rogan
Yeah.
aubrey marcus
There used to be a time where mount or back mount was game over.
I think people got used to that for five years.
It's like, oh, he's got his back.
unidentified
It's over.
brendan schaub
It's the same thing.
Someone gets to mount, even in camp right now.
Someone gets to mount, everyone's like, oh, no.
joe rogan
It's really not that big of a deal.
Remco Pardew fought Marco Huas.
Marco Huas mounted him, and he tapped.
It's like, it's over.
bryan callen
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
brendan schaub
Over, just sheer terror.
joe rogan
He got the mount.
He's like, this is over.
The position is no good.
brendan schaub
You know what?
One guy where if he got mount, it was actually over and he should tap?
Shane Carlin.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
That's a good point.
That's like having a building on you.
unidentified
Dude.
brendan schaub
Didn't matter how good your jiu-jitsu was.
bryan callen
It's like having a building on you.
joe rogan
But Brock Lesnar survived it.
bryan callen
Not mount.
brendan schaub
Not mount.
bryan callen
By the way, Shane Carlin's strongest guy.
brendan schaub
He had knee on belly.
Knee on belly.
unidentified
Half guard.
brendan schaub
And he postured up.
bryan callen
Shane Carlin's strongest guy you've ever rolled with?
brendan schaub
Yes.
I mean, he's like an alien from a muscle planet.
unidentified
You know what I'm saying?
brendan schaub
It's like, where'd you come from, muscle planet?
I mean, it's just like...
joe rogan
That fucking guy was so big in his prime.
bryan callen
His arms were so long, too.
brendan schaub
I would get in my car and cry, man, after practice.
You'd think you'd be getting better because he'd take like a week off because he just didn't give a shit?
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
And then I'd be in the gym seven days a week and he'd come in and just whoop my ass.
joe rogan
Now, when he got injured, how much did his injuries progress and how did they progress?
Because I know he had a lot of back injuries.
brendan schaub
He had a lot of back injuries, then he had a horrible neck, and it was like when he fought Frank Mare, he might have hit mitts three times.
He just couldn't do it.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
He's that fucked up.
brendan schaub
When Shane Carlin fought Gabriel Gonzaga, that was like his very first big test and he knocked him out like this.
He just went boop and knocked Gabriel Gonzaga out.
joe rogan
After he got tagged and he got his nose broken.
brendan schaub
Yes, exactly.
But when Shane was getting ready for that fight...
And I've seen a ton of fighters, man, my time.
A ton.
The best in the world.
That was the best heavyweight I've ever seen in my life.
She was about 255, shredded.
It looked like you shaved a silverback gorilla and put boxing gloves on.
And I had to be his main training partner.
I was like, shh!
unidentified
Shit!
brendan schaub
I had to give myself a pep talk in the car.
I was talking myself up, like, you can do this, bro.
Just get in there.
Just get through it.
Yeah.
But I've never...
His speed, his quickness, his cardio was good.
He hit so hard.
And they would be like, hey, we got other guys for Shane today.
I'd be like, thank God, because I don't have to go one round with him.
These other guys would go in, I'd just sit back and be like, yeah.
He would knock everybody out, man.
joe rogan
In training?
brendan schaub
In training.
joe rogan
Now, at Grudge, was there too much of that going on at Grudge?
brendan schaub
I would say...
Yes.
joe rogan
Big smile before you answer.
I would say...
brendan schaub
But you know what?
You know what?
That was the thing.
Back then, I think every gym was like that.
Because I'd go down to Jackson's...
bryan callen
Before you knew better.
brendan schaub
I'd go down to Jackson's and all we would do is punch each other in the face.
It's all we did.
joe rogan
It's a weird thing because a lot...
You know who criticizes a lot of that is Ernesto Hoost.
Ernesto Hoost was talking about gyms that do that.
And he's like, it's ridiculous.
brendan schaub
It's horrible.
joe rogan
He's like, it's not necessary.
It doesn't make you better.
It's not necessary.
It doesn't make you better.
brendan schaub
What's doing it, it's taking out potential five of the nights you could have getting paid a lot of money for it.
Like on Friday, it's sparring day at Reign.
And there's a bunch of new guys there.
Tough, high-level guys.
And if they don't have headgear on, I won't spar them.
Really?
A headbutt, if we both get head...
You cut my...
Listen, man, I've got to fight in four weeks.
Beating you up does nothing for me.
I don't get paid to do this.
bryan callen
Well, they were wondering why...
brendan schaub
As a vet now, I'll say something.
I'm like, nah, bro, get headgear, or we'll go next round, or I'll roll with you or something.
bryan callen
Somebody was talking about how when somebody gets knocked out five times or whatever, they start getting a glass chin, so you touch them, they go out.
And what they were saying was that the reason for that was that your brain...
When you get caught, your brain will shut off.
It's so used to that, it goes, oh, danger time, don't want any more punishment, gotta protect itself, and will shut your body right off.
That's one theory.
joe rogan
Well, Liddell explained to me, we were talking about it once, and he said that he just couldn't take a shot anymore, and what it was because, he said he was, you know, he was, he would grit his fucking, he would bite down on his mouthpiece and cough it out, and just absorb punishment.
And his brain knew when he was getting hit that he was going to do that.
His brain knew that he was going to exhort punishment.
So the brain's like, fuck you!
aubrey marcus
And just shut off.
bryan callen
That's good, though.
Yeah, so when I said somebody, that was you.
And I'm telling the story again.
All right, so that's right.
aubrey marcus
You know, Johnny Hendricks came out pretty publicly and talked about how he didn't take headshots for that whole camp against Lawler.
joe rogan
Well, it's smart.
aubrey marcus
You see them in the cage there, and those guys are just trading back and forth.
brendan schaub
You've got to save it for when it counts.
Save it for when it counts.
bryan callen
You football, don't they?
They don't scrimmage.
brendan schaub
Only certain guys because they're getting smarter.
Like Michigan, Ohio State, they don't hit during the season.
Makes sense.
In the NFL, you really don't hit.
You don't hit.
You're paying these athletes so much money.
Why the hell?
Listen, if you can't take a punch now or avoid a punch now, you're not going to do it four weeks from now.
joe rogan
Exactly.
That's a very good point.
And your ability to take a punch, a lot of times, depends on how many punches you've already taken.
I mean, we've all seen guys where their chin starts to go.
We've all seen guys like that, where they just start to hit.
Did you see Pat Berry's last fight?
brendan schaub
I did.
Yes.
joe rogan
Pat Barry had never gotten knocked out before when he fought Czech Kongo.
Czech Kongo was the first time he ever went out.
brendan schaub
That was a great fight.
joe rogan
It was a great fight.
But then he got knocked out there.
He got knocked out by Saul Pileli.
He got knocked out by LeVar Johnson.
He got knocked out by Zach Muikasa.
Holy shit, is that guy a beast.
brendan schaub
What the hell?
What was that?
joe rogan
That's the Kongo, son.
That's a dude who grew up in the fucking Kongo.
bryan callen
That is the Kongo.
joe rogan
Remember we were talking about Russians?
brendan schaub
Yes.
joe rogan
Russians are scared of people from the Congo.
Because that's some next level shit.
brendan schaub
Next level shit.
joe rogan
Those dudes who climb skyscrapers.
unidentified
He's boxing gorillas.
brendan schaub
He's boxing silverbacks.
In Russia, they're wrestling grizzly bears.
Here I am in Malibu playing grab ass with Bruce Jenner.
How am I going to do this?
How the fuck am I going to do this, man?
My kids are screwed.
unidentified
I need training today so I kick a jaguar in the balls.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Bro, when...
unidentified
I kicked his shot water.
bryan callen
I kicked his shot water in the balls.
brendan schaub
I DVR'd it, and when I got home, I fast-forwarded to Pat Berry's fight, and the dude he was fighting, I was like, no.
Who signed this fight?
Why would you do that?
joe rogan
Well, Mui Casa has a...
He's got a pretty good boxing background.
brendan schaub
Boxing background, yeah.
joe rogan
And, you know, I think...
brendan schaub
I think he was 12-1 as a pro.
joe rogan
I like Pat Berry, but I hate when a guy says, I fight one-round fights.
So, I fight one-round fights, I'm out there to fight one-round fights.
Stop.
brendan schaub
That's a mental weakness.
joe rogan
Stop saying that.
brendan schaub
When I hear that, it's a mental weakness.
joe rogan
Well, not only that.
I understand that you want to be exciting.
I understand that.
But you're a fighter and you're skillful.
That guy should be doing it.
He should be training at some high-level camp.
Some high-level Muay Thai camp.
You want to be a Muay Thai fighter?
Fucking go to Golden Glory.
brendan schaub
Leave an MMA gym.
Go do...
Yes, exactly.
joe rogan
Go somewhere, you know...
brendan schaub
Pat was the guy who would walk into wrestling and literally, he'd be like, dude, did someone kill your dog on the way here?
He'd get into wrestling and just be like, super sad.
Super sad.
And then he'd be like, you know, he was the only other heavyweight.
He was the only other heavyweight.
So he'd be like, Shob, go with Pat.
I'm like, alright.
Come here, Mopey Myrtle.
joe rogan
Let's go.
unidentified
Mopey Myrtle.
brendan schaub
Let me show you a double leg.
Let's go.
joe rogan
This is how you avoid getting stuffed on your back.
unidentified
Yes.
bryan callen
He just hated wrestling that much?
brendan schaub
Dreaded it.
You know, he was doing wrestling and was like, you know what?
Fuck this.
And then was like, I'm retiring.
I don't want to do this anymore.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
bryan callen
I hear he's like a really funny guy.
joe rogan
He's hilarious.
brendan schaub
He's a great guy.
joe rogan
Talk your ass much longer.
unidentified
Real talker.
joe rogan
How much longer if he keeps getting knocked out like that?
You know, that's what I worry about.
A guy like that is a sweetheart.
He's a great guy.
He's tough as shit.
He puts on exciting fights.
I mean, when he knocked out the late, great Shane Del Rosario, that was like one of my favorite heavyweight fights ever.
Yeah, I'll take some more.
bryan callen
You're not mad at this wine, by the way?
joe rogan
It's very good.
brendan schaub
I'm not mad at this bulletproof coffee.
joe rogan
It's good.
brendan schaub
It's the only reason I come.
bryan callen
Oh yeah, you can't drink.
brendan schaub
I love it.
bryan callen
Somebody's in camp!
I swill wine like an aristocrat.
By the way...
joe rogan
That's one of the reasons why you can't pull back a 90-pound bow.
Your body's rejecting it.
bryan callen
Doesn't matter.
I got good taste buds.
My body's...
I'm built for dance, I told you.
joe rogan
Your elbows.
bryan callen
Whatever.
That's bullshit.
joe rogan
You gotta tell me afterwards, I can do 28 chin-ups.
bryan callen
Okay.
joe rogan
You gotta tell me.
You gotta tell me.
brendan schaub
Cool, man.
bryan callen
He can't do the bow.
joe rogan
He's like, I don't get it.
You could do it so easy.
Yeah.
bryan callen
You do it easy, by the way.
unidentified
Heavyweights.
bryan callen
I was all bunched up.
I was like, huh.
brendan schaub
Heavyweights.
How about Potts was selling mouthpieces?
That's how he got into the game.
bryan callen
By the way, Saudi?
brendan schaub
He was selling mouthpieces.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Potts and Sawapulele.
bryan callen
Sawapulele, he's not Samoan, is he?
He's a Samoan warrior.
brendan schaub
He's a big boy.
joe rogan
How do you say his name?
Ruan Potts?
Let's put some volume up there.
bryan callen
Is he from Holland?
Where is he from?
joe rogan
Let's back it up so we can see how John Yannick says his name.
And then fast forward so we're not out of line with all the people watching at home.
brendan schaub
Soa might be, besides Bigfoot, the second biggest guy.
joe rogan
Back it up again.
bryan callen
What a badass.
I wish I was Simone.
unidentified
Shh.
joe rogan
Back it up again.
unidentified
All right, moving on now, and welcome to the big show, the heavyweight Ruan Potts.
joe rogan
Ruan.
brendan schaub
Ruan.
joe rogan
All right, fast forward this shit.
bryan callen
Where is Ruan Potts from?
joe rogan
He lives next door to you.
He's fucking your wife right now.
bryan callen
Hey man, I'm not there to videotape it?
Damn it.
joe rogan
What is this?
What is this?
Why does Fox News insist on putting hot chicks in dresses that talk about sports?
brendan schaub
I'm not mad about it.
joe rogan
I'm not mad about it either, but it makes me uncomfortable when my dick gets hard when I'm watching fights.
I'm like, what are you doing?
You're sending me mixed signals.
bryan callen
And then a big sweaty Samoan comes on the screen.
You're like, oh no, I'm really confused.
joe rogan
I disagree with your political outlook, but my dick is hard, so I'm listening.
I want to argue with you and give you a better point than you're capable of making, just so I can fuck you.
bryan callen
If you ever want to freak your friends out, just walk into the room with a hard on.
joe rogan
Well, that's what they're trying to do when they're putting these women on Fox News.
I mean, look, not saying there's anything wrong with these women or that they're not intelligent.
They surely are.
That's how they got on.
Look, it's very difficult to get a job where you're a political correspondent or you're doing sports.
I mean, it's even harder for a woman to do sports than it is for a man because she's got to stand up to all the patriarchy, all the bullshit that guys don't want to hear women talking about sports.
However, they're all hot.
That's a fucking strategy.
They know what they're doing.
They're tricking us.
brendan schaub
We can't have Large Marge up there and be like, this just in, boys.
bryan callen
Look at Wayne Newton's face.
unidentified
Look at this.
joe rogan
Back that up real quick.
Back that up.
bryan callen
I need to see this.
Look at that face.
joe rogan
There's no need for that, Wayne.
bryan callen
Talk about a boner.
joe rogan
So here's the commercial.
Wayne Newton is spinning around.
aubrey marcus
That might be a wax figure.
unidentified
Look at that!
joe rogan
The woman, who's hot as fuck, by the way, is excited that Wayne Newton's staring at her.
Let it roll because he winks at her.
bryan callen
Look at him!
joe rogan
And look, she gets excited.
No, she doesn't!
You're not a good enough actor, ma'am.
You're not a good enough actor for that.
brendan schaub
That makes me not want to go to Vegas.
joe rogan
Frozen face zombie gets your pussy moist.
No, he does not.
He's a thousand years old.
And I know you want to get your SAG card, but there's better ways.
bryan callen
He's a vampire.
joe rogan
There's fucking better ways.
aubrey marcus
I was just impressed he was able to wink.
joe rogan
Barely!
He had a fucking sweat!
It's like you doing squats!
unidentified
Him winking is like, you deadlift in 400 pounds.
joe rogan
Fight the Botox!
aubrey marcus
He had to psych himself.
brendan schaub
Bro, I bet he has so many bitches in Vegas, it's not even funny.
bryan callen
I don't think so.
brendan schaub
I bet his black book's ridiculous.
joe rogan
He probably has so much money.
So if he has so much money, of course he has so many bitches in Vegas.
bryan callen
God, what a face.
joe rogan
There's so many lost, confused people.
brendan schaub
He probably gets these girls to the show, sings them a little song.
joe rogan
It's on.
I think at this point in his career, it's probably done.
He's not even interested in that.
brendan schaub
I disagree.
aubrey marcus
He's performing at Hooters Casino, though.
Does he?
joe rogan
Is he?
aubrey marcus
I don't know, but he's not on the big show.
joe rogan
Okay, well, let's find out where he is.
Well, he might still be, believe it or not.
brendan schaub
Either way, he's going back to the villa and just having bitches.
joe rogan
It's one of those things like Tony Bennett where you pretend it's good.
bryan callen
Tony Bennett can still sing.
joe rogan
Shut the fuck up.
unidentified
Tony Bennett is gracious.
joe rogan
If you have a choice between the Spearmint Rhino or going to see Tony Bennett.
bryan callen
I'm going to Tony Bennett.
joe rogan
Brian!
bryan callen
No, because I just feel like those girls, I feel sorry for them.
Most of them are nursing students.
joe rogan
WayneNewton.com.
Schedule.
Let's go to schedule.
bryan callen
You guys want to get boners in the meantime or no?
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
He might not even be in Vegas anymore because it says here 517 Lindenwood University?
aubrey marcus
Yep.
Hooters Casino.
brendan schaub
Dude, he took his shit on the road.
There's nothing wrong with that.
bryan callen
Why are you defending Wayne Newton over there?
unidentified
I have no idea.
bryan callen
You're a contrarian, man.
unidentified
But university is spelled wrong.
joe rogan
It's Univer-city.
C-I-T-Y. That's not how you spell university, is it?
bryan callen
Well, if it's Linwood University.
brendan schaub
Brian, who you got in this fight?
Heavyweight, son.
bryan callen
I got the Samoan on principle.
joe rogan
Mr. Las Vegas World Tour, and he's going to some university in St. Charles, Missouri.
And then another place in Wisconsin.
bryan callen
Bruce Buffer!
brendan schaub
He's not in Vegas.
You're right.
He's not in Vegas.
aubrey marcus
Nobody wants to see that shit.
joe rogan
Lake of the Torches Resort Casino, Lac du Flambe, Wisconsin.
Holy shit.
brendan schaub
He wishes he was at Hooters Casino.
joe rogan
Wow, he might not be in Vegas anymore.
This is really true.
He really does wish he was at Hooters Casino.
brendan schaub
He still calls himself Mr. Vegas?
joe rogan
I don't know.
That's a good question, man.
It seems like he's not in Vegas anymore.
That's insane.
brendan schaub
It's a shame, really.
aubrey marcus
So, Brennan, for the heavyweights, how much tougher is a heavyweight's chin versus the punching power?
Like, what's that relation there?
brendan schaub
You know what I mean?
People ask me this all the time.
I mean, besides Mark Hunt and Roy Nelson...
There's really no such thing.
Everyone's been knocked out at heavyweight.
I mean, name a guy.
He's been knocked out.
All the top guys have really been knocked out.
And if you haven't, you're not fighting tough enough guys.
aubrey marcus
So if you say, from middleweight to heavyweight, how much more of a punch does it take?
20%, 30%?
brendan schaub
It's tough to say.
It depends on the fighter.
But if Sowa lands a good jab here, it could knock him out.
bryan callen
Look at the size of Sowa.
brendan schaub
A jab will knock a guy out.
bryan callen
Look at the size of his legs!
joe rogan
Oh my god!
brendan schaub
Brian, please control you.
unidentified
Sorry, sorry.
joe rogan
He's a big boy.
bryan callen
I'm straight, but I'm just saying.
joe rogan
So is a big boy.
brendan schaub
Hands down.
That's a big man.
No hands, huh?
joe rogan
But he fell apart against Eddie Sanchez in his first fight in the UFC. Cardio.
Just sheer adrenaline.
brendan schaub
Cardio.
joe rogan
Adrenaline dump.
Because Ryan Parsons was very high on this guy.
He was saying, like, the guy's a beast.
He just had a hard time.
bryan callen
He's light on his feet.
joe rogan
He just had a hard time dealing with the pressure.
The pressure's a motherfucker, right?
I mean, Brendan, do you feel like the pressure was that you had- There's the guillotine you sold on.
unidentified
Sorry.
joe rogan
Yeah, exactly.
brendan schaub
What are we doing?
joe rogan
Same thing.
brendan schaub
When guys do that, it drives me nuts.
joe rogan
But Pulele has got his arm trapped.
brendan schaub
His arm's trapped, but if it wasn't, he would come over.
unidentified
Right.
brendan schaub
But I bet he doesn't do that, because he's not a grappler.
joe rogan
No.
Well, you know, he did mount Pat Berry.
brendan schaub
Pat, yes.
So did my brother.
joe rogan
But he did work with a lot of wrestlers.
He did work with a lot of wrestlers.
So it did.
Look at this.
This guy's using this guillotine.
brendan schaub
You can use chin control to get to the half guard.
joe rogan
So it just gave him half guard.
And then he gave it back.
He's still holding onto his neck.
Look at that!
He rolled him over with the neck!
Oh my goodness, this is some blue belt level shit.
brendan schaub
There's a guillotine here.
joe rogan
He's not even...
brendan schaub
It's going to be a horrible idea.
joe rogan
Pulled guard.
Brendan Shaw getting crazy.
Yeah, not a good move.
What level of jiu-jitsu, when you compare, like say, Metamorris, Abu Dhabi, and then you watch grappling like an average match in the UFC. Give me some volume there, young Jamie.
unidentified
Oh yeah, sorry.
joe rogan
How much difference do you think?
What would you say?
In Metamorris, black belt.
In the UFC, the average is purple belt.
bryan callen
Really?
brendan schaub
I would say this is blue belt, what we're seeing.
joe rogan
This is low level.
This is blue belt, but I think the average...
brendan schaub
On average, I'd say purple.
joe rogan
He doesn't have an armbar.
bryan callen
I meant triangle.
joe rogan
No, he doesn't have that either.
bryan callen
I was saying it was in the family.
In that family.
joe rogan
Do you think the average is purple belt?
brendan schaub
I'd say purple belt.
I'd say purple belt.
But at 155, black belt.
155, 170. Oh boy.
joe rogan
How fucking good is Jim Miller's jiu-jitsu?
Oh!
Ron's out.
Because Pulele hits fucking hard as shit, man.
bryan callen
Kiss him on the back of the head.
joe rogan
Wow.
Who did he kiss?
The referee?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
Good move.
Keith Peterson's a sexy bitch.
bryan callen
Yes, he is.
joe rogan
He's a good guy to kiss.
Pulele, see?
Now, there's a guy that's getting comfortable in the UFC, and you're getting to see what everybody saw from him in the gym.
Knee on belly, gets the mount.
Ding.
unidentified
Oh, it was the left.
aubrey marcus
It was the left.
bryan callen
Oh, no.
joe rogan
And not even a lot behind it.
Oh, he kissed him.
bryan callen
Yeah.
aubrey marcus
Left underneath the...
joe rogan
Look at that knee to the belly.
But check out the left.
But this is what everybody said about him.
The guy fucking hits wicked hard.
Look at this.
Bump.
brendan schaub
That left hand.
joe rogan
Look at the eyes.
That one eye open.
bryan callen
Oh, God.
joe rogan
He's seeing all kinds of shit that you used to see when you were a little kid.
When you saw those cartoons where a guy got hit in the head with a frying pan.
The birds would fly around.
bryan callen
Yeah.
aubrey marcus
I think I saw that in the jungle.
bryan callen
It's no fun.
brendan schaub
Sowa has an impressive record, man.
joe rogan
We'll talk about that tomorrow.
brendan schaub
Sowa's like 21-3 now, I think?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Impressive record.
Most of it's outside the UFC, so I don't really care.
aubrey marcus
But does Sowa do the Haka?
Because I can only get behind him if he does the Haka.
bryan callen
My favorite thing.
I watch the All Blacks Haka all the time.
It fires me up.
aubrey marcus
If you're ever feeling sorry for yourself, if you're having a fucking pity party, watch a YouTube with a Haka.
bryan callen
Nobody wants to be Samoan more than me.
So, you know...
unidentified
Part of me dies.
aubrey marcus
I may or may not have written my own haka, actually.
bryan callen
Really?
joe rogan
You can't do that!
Unless you go to battle or swim across the ocean in a dugout canoe, you're not allowed to make your own haka.
aubrey marcus
No one's ever seen it.
I realized that I couldn't do anything with it, but I tried.
joe rogan
It's all right, man.
It's all right.
aubrey marcus
I was motivated.
I was fired up.
I watched a little Khal Drogo in Game of Thrones.
unidentified
I was fired up.
brendan schaub
Joe, if you think jiu-jitsu's at a purple belt level, overall, we're talking all weight classes, what would you say strike in fact?
joe rogan
Purple belt as well.
I'd say, yeah.
I mean, if you pay attention to, like, look at high-level boxing, look at high-level Muay Thai, look at high-level kickboxing.
And the difference between kickboxing and Muay Thai, for folks who don't know, if you're watching, like, Glory, what they're not allowed to do in Glory, and I love Glory, but what they're not allowed to do is elbows to the head, and they're not allowed to clinch and throw knees.
But Muay Thai, that's a big part of Muay Thai.
And it also protects fighters.
And in a good instance, a good example, rather, a guy like John Wayne Parr, Multiple time Muay Thai champion, but not really allowed to use his full skill set when he fights in Glory.
And I'm a fan of Glory.
bryan callen
Why is that?
Why?
joe rogan
Because Glory has decided they want to go the K1 route.
And what K1 decided was, they used to let you clinch with two hands, but then Alistair started kneeing guys into oblivion, so they changed two hands to one hand.
brendan schaub
Sakuraba?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Sakuraba fought in K-1?
Who did he fight where he broke his chin?
joe rogan
Sakuraba broke his chin?
brendan schaub
Overeem did it to him.
joe rogan
No, Overeem never fought Sakuraba.
I think you're thinking of Melvin Manhoof.
brendan schaub
No, no.
joe rogan
Fought Sakuraba?
Sakuraba only fought Muay Thai, or MMA. He never fought Muay Thai.
brendan schaub
Maybe it was MMA, but it was in the clinch.
He broke his chin.
Sorry.
joe rogan
I'm not sure what fight that was.
I mean, Sakuraba has taken some fucking brutal beatings in his time.
But the bottom line is that...
You're not as able to defend yourself if you're fighting in kickboxing.
Because kickboxing, you have all these other things that you can do.
You can grab the plum, you can shove your head up into the side of his head.
And really control that clench and knee to the body and trip and throw them to the ground.
There's all these different things that you could do.
The only promotion in America that allows that is lion fights.
And you can watch that on AXS TV. Great, great, great fights.
I love watching that.
And when you see some really high-level Muay Thai, you see all the elbows.
There's all these tools that guys are allowed to use in stand-up and MMA that you can't use in dream.
Or rather, you can't use in K1 and you can't use in glory.
aubrey marcus
One of the most confusing things I ever saw was watching fights in Bangkok and Samui in Thailand.
Because the rule system there for the Muay Thai fight, first of all, it's epic, because everybody in the audience is betting the whole time.
bryan callen
And by the way, they will do, like in first round, a lot of times, because they bet on things like how many roundhouses are going to be on the right side.
They do all kinds of stuff.
If you're betting on your guy, your guy will get that note.
You can never tell how somebody's going to do how good a fighter somebody is by watching their first round.
aubrey marcus
A lot of the bets came in.
came in after that.
joe rogan
Yes.
aubrey marcus
But you would watch these fights and there'd be some, the crowd would go crazy for a knee to the body, like crazy for a knee to the body or a kick to the leg or something like that.
And then you'd see like an American guy in there, an English guy, I don't know, white guy in there.
And he would just start, like in later round, just start lighting somebody up with punches in the face, like hook, cross, uppercut.
And you're like, oh shit, oh shit.
But I'm the only one yelling.
And then at the end of the fight, I'm like, man, that guy kicked the other guy's ass.
And it's the Thai guy who landed more knees that wins.
bryan callen
That's right.
What is going on?
brendan schaub
Not Sakuraba, Fujita.
Did you see that?
joe rogan
No, I did not.
He fought Overeem.
Overeem, what he did was...
bryan callen
Oh, that back kick was nice.
joe rogan
Yeah, that was Eddie Wineland that he knocked out.
He's going to fight TJ Dillashaw on that.
bryan callen
Such a good back kick.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's Hennon Burrell.
He might be the best pound-for-pound guy on the planet.
bryan callen
Burrell's phenomenal.
joe rogan
If he's not the best, he's close to it.
aubrey marcus
TJ by Japanese necktie.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, maybe.
Wouldn't that be crazy?
brendan schaub
That'd be dope.
joe rogan
I showed it to him at the honor headquarters.
brendan schaub
Did you really?
joe rogan
I couldn't believe he didn't know it.
brendan schaub
He's never seen it?
joe rogan
No.
Neither did TJ. TJ didn't know it.
Neither did Danny Castillo.
Neither one of those guys knew it.
aubrey marcus
Iminari and the Japanese neck guy.
brendan schaub
You rolled with him?
joe rogan
Yeah, well, I showed him some techniques.
Well, the only tapping was that, and then I just put him in rubber guard and asked him to escape, and then I got him in the Iminari.
Do you know the Iminari?
I was trying to show Whitney.
brendan schaub
I don't know the names to...
A lot of Bravo stuff.
joe rogan
Well, Iminari's not Bravo's.
It's Iminari's technique.
It's basically an omoplata where you finish with a neck crank.
You go for the omoplata.
When you got the guy, you know how you got a guy flattened out and you got the seat belt?
You grab the neck.
Pull back like that.
It's a fucking devastating move.
I'll pull it up for you.
brendan schaub
Or you could just do it to me.
joe rogan
No, I'll show you.
bryan callen
Just do it to me.
Or you could just do it.
brendan schaub
I'm more of a visual guy.
bryan callen
Why'd your voice get so dear and raspy?
joe rogan
My dick got hard.
bryan callen
Oh, God.
Boners everywhere.
unidentified
This podcast is the best, but confusing.
joe rogan
Google Imanari Omoplata neck crank.
There's a video of it.
It's pretty fucking dope, dude.
He really knows how to do it.
And he invented this.
unidentified
I've never seen it.
joe rogan
I never saw anybody do it before Imanari did it.
aubrey marcus
We got some videos of you teaching that on YouTube, too.
joe rogan
Oh, is that on YouTube?
aubrey marcus
I'm pretty sure, yeah.
brendan schaub
Better get on it.
joe rogan
Yeah, I asked Danny if he had ever seen it before and then I strangled him with it.
I asked him to get out of Rubber Guard.
He couldn't get out of Rubber Guard.
Because if a guy's got a good mission control, it's pretty surprising.
You get in a guy like Eddie Bravo's guard and try to get out of it.
You're completely clamped down.
But the thing about it is that you don't know where you're in danger.
You don't know which move.
There's so many non-traditional attacks from that position, but Imanari figured out this dope S-grip neck crank.
You just reach under the chin with the S-grip, and you really can't fucking defend it because your right arm, totally trapped in the omoplata, right?
You're attacking the shoulder.
brendan schaub
And he's just sitting up.
joe rogan
Just sitting up, getting an S-grip on the neck, anywhere around the neck, and just...
Yanking that motherfucker back.
It's essentially your entire core, all the weight of your back and everything, on the unprotected neck.
There's not a lot you can do to defend it.
brendan schaub
Uma Plata's are hard to finish at heavyweight.
That's not good.
aubrey marcus
Very hard to finish at any weight.
brendan schaub
I get there a lot, and at heavyweight, I feel like it's even worse.
Guys are so big, they can pop.
bryan callen
What is the one jiu-jitsu move that gets...
joe rogan
That Imanari, man, is dope.
bryan callen
Have they done a stat on what the one jiu-jitsu move in the UFC, the most successful?
brendan schaub
Guillotine.
100%.
bryan callen
What about the second one?
brendan schaub
As far as the mission rate, I'd say guillotine.
Because more people know it.
A lot of guys aren't going to pull off all these crazy stuff.
aubrey marcus
You know what would be interesting is the chat rear naked chokes, because that's been on a steady decline.
brendan schaub
Ah, rear naked choke and guillotine's up there.
aubrey marcus
It's hard with the gloves.
joe rogan
The gloves is what makes it hard, man.
aubrey marcus
It's almost now people have to be dazed for you to see someone finish it.
joe rogan
Or they have to be giving up.
aubrey marcus
Like Cowboy Cerrone when he had Barbosa dazed.
unidentified
He jumped all over.
bryan callen
TJ did a job.
aubrey marcus
Come on, TJ. Let's do this shit.
joe rogan
Tough.
That would be a good one.
That's a crazy fight, man.
That's going to be a crazy fight.
Oh, there's Iminari pulling it off on that fight.
Look at that.
On that TV. Pull back it up a little bit, Jamie, so we can get a look at it.
It's a repeating gif.
Look at this.
See how he gets it?
Look at that.
bryan callen
What in the world is that?
joe rogan
Look at that.
bryan callen
What is that?
joe rogan
That is so nasty.
bryan callen
Oh no, that's bad, man.
joe rogan
Let me do it to you, Brian.
I'll show you.
bryan callen
No way.
unidentified
It's death.
joe rogan
It's hot death.
bryan callen
That's how it went away.
joe rogan
If you've got a neck problem now, I'll fucking kill your sperm count with that.
That just looks terrible.
bryan callen
I mean, that's literally how you break your fucking body in half.
joe rogan
It's a beautiful technique, though.
It's super effective and very rarely done.
bryan callen
It's from omoplata and you just grab his head like that.
joe rogan
Well, especially if the guy's trying to release your legs to try to save his arm.
bryan callen
Oh, my God.
joe rogan
Because you kind of give up.
Your right arm is trapped.
brendan schaub
Now, there he gets underneath the chin.
joe rogan
No, thanks.
But you don't have to.
But you don't have to because it's a crank.
It's basically a neck crank, and you're breaking a spine.
I mean, it's just a horrible, horrible position.
You're putting so much pressure on the discs.
It's horrible.
unidentified
It's horrible.
brendan schaub
That's sweet, man.
bryan callen
I get there a lot.
You can do it, man.
joe rogan
I mean, I'll show you after the podcast the setup.
It's super, super clean.
bryan callen
Look at that beautiful back kick.
joe rogan
And it's one of those techniques where it's there the whole time, but nobody does it.
Sort of like the Japanese necktie where a lot of guys want to get the darts, they can't get the darts.
They don't know the necktie is right there the whole time.
You know that, right?
You do that, Japanese necktie a lot?
brendan schaub
I'm familiar.
We should go over it after this.
joe rogan
Your darts is fucking nasty, man.
That darts you hit Mitrione with, that was locked down tight.
That was bank vault tight.
brendan schaub
Yeah, darts, that's just forever.
You know how things just come to you?
For whatever reason, I see darts everywhere.
For whatever reason, as soon as I started doing jiu-jitsu, they showed me the darts, and then I was just right away.
It was just something they showed me once, and it was in my tool.
joe rogan
That's interesting.
There's some guys that just, like, certain techniques really click with them.
brendan schaub
It's so weird.
joe rogan
Weird, like Paul Sass, triangles.
Bang, bang, bang, bang.
brendan schaub
That's his thing.
joe rogan
That guy, you get caught in Paul Sass' guard, you gotta fucking get out of there and run.
That motherfucker would triangle the shit out of you.
It's weird.
Other guys, their triangle's just dogshit weak.
You could find a way to get out.
brendan schaub
High level guys, too.
I'll do Darces on guys.
Super high level guys.
And then I'm like, you're not a Darce guy?
They're like, no.
They don't even mess with it.
They don't even care to mess with it.
joe rogan
I don't understand that.
brendan schaub
They do arm bars or whatever.
joe rogan
I don't understand that.
Darce is such a potent weapon.
brendan schaub
Especially in MMA. The reason I developed it a lot is because with Shane Carr when it was shooting in on me, I had to come up with something.
joe rogan
Right.
brendan schaub
So it's guillotines and darses.
joe rogan
Had to come up with something out of desperation.
brendan schaub
I would attack his feet and he just punched me in the face.
bryan callen
Can't get enough of that back kick.
joe rogan
Burrell's a beast, man.
He's a motherfucker, dude.
bryan callen
He is as good as it gets.
joe rogan
Longest undefeated winning streak in MMA. Is that true?
bryan callen
That's crazy.
joe rogan
That's true.
bryan callen
At that weight class, too.
brendan schaub
38, I think, right?
joe rogan
It's something crazy.
Let's find out.
brendan schaub
What a genius.
I want to say it's 36-38.
bryan callen
Well, when your training partner is Jose Aldo.
brendan schaub
No, the thing is, the weight class he's in.
unidentified
He's fighting black belts and everything.
brendan schaub
It's hard to even comprehend that long of a fight streak.
As a fighter, to me, that's insane.
bryan callen
With that kind of speed and stuff, too, like where everybody's fast.
aubrey marcus
He's got a lot of length.
joe rogan
Yeah, let's see.
bryan callen
How about Daniel Cormier, who's about 5'1", picking dudes up, and just look at that.
joe rogan
He's not 5'1".
bryan callen
No, I know.
He's like 5'8", though.
5'9".
He's not that much taller than that.
joe rogan
He's 5'11".
bryan callen
That's absolutely a lie.
I stood next to him.
I towered over him.
He was like, man, you're tall.
I was like, thanks, man.
He goes, I love your work.
joe rogan
He never said that.
bryan callen
He goes, you're my favorite actor.
I was like, thank you.
I was like, that's so sweet.
And you're way more athletic in person.
I was like, I know.
I wrestled in high school.
joe rogan
Six feet tall.
bryan callen
Go fuck yourself.
You're out of your mind.
joe rogan
Six feet tall.
bryan callen
I was towering.
I was literally eating peanut butter on his head.
joe rogan
You were wearing stilts.
bryan callen
I was.
That's true.
That part is true.
joe rogan
You were wearing women's shoes.
bryan callen
I do wear it.
unidentified
I do wear it.
joe rogan
Oh, this is a good fight.
Neil Magny and Tim Means is a good fight.
brendan schaub
Neil Magny I trained with in Denver.
We used to call him the Gazelle because this kid's cardio is insane.
bryan callen
Really?
brendan schaub
Insane, man.
bryan callen
That guy has fangs.
joe rogan
He's so tough.
He's really tough.
brendan schaub
Tim Means is so tough.
joe rogan
And Means is an animal too.
Both guys are animals.
And both guys are very similar.
Real tall guys for 55. And Means, he knocked out Pete Spratt at 170, man.
brendan schaub
Listen, the difference between Means and Magny, and Magny's my boy, but the difference is Means is just nothing.
Nasty!
And he switches things up.
You'll see Neal, his movement's great, but it's more of like a point scoring system for him.
He's just touching.
Neal, I don't think has ever knocked anyone out in his life.
All he's doing is beating you off points.
You'll see a jab, a right hand, jab, right hand, and he's just moving the whole time.
Means does not play that, man.
Means reminds me of a Carlos Condit.
joe rogan
Isn't that interesting?
That's one of the reasons why Magni can keep going forever and ever.
It's just like that he's not putting 100% to everything.
That's a weird thing, isn't it?
Where you're not totally 100% committing to techniques, but you can keep going for way longer with that.
What do you think about that?
brendan schaub
You have to have a mix of that.
You have to.
You look at the guys at the top, there's a mix.
joe rogan
Right.
You can't go full blast.
brendan schaub
For instance, if we look at the fights recently, look at Travis Brown.
And I talked to Verdum last Tuesday about this.
Verdum said every shot that Travis was thrown had bad intentions, knockout power.
He was trying to knock him out in one shot.
He wasn't putting combos together.
It makes for at a high level, that's not going to work, man.
Guys see it and they're getting out of the way and they're going to take you down.
bryan callen
You said about Travis Brown, you said there's no method to the madness.
You said there's nothing behind, there's no strategy behind that.
brendan schaub
Listen, you can't floor your car in 7th gear and it's going to burn out.
You just can't do it.
You have to use all the gears.
And the guys at the very highest level are using all the gears.
Like look at Dos Santos.
He comes out very relaxed, jab, jab, and then you're going to see a big shot, and he's back down to 2nd gear.
But he's not chilling at 7th gear like Shane Carlin.
joe rogan
Yeah, I see what you're saying.
I would just say 1st gear.
brendan schaub
Not 1st gear, you know what I'm saying.
joe rogan
2nd gear is more chilling, 3rd gear.
But yeah, I know what you're saying.
Yeah, I think that there's some...
brendan schaub
It's not good.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
It's not good.
joe rogan
There's some guys who do fight like that, though.
They just explode, explode, explode, explode, explode.
And then by the time the third round comes, they're like...
brendan schaub
At a high level, guys are like, cool.
We're going to drag his ass to the third round.
The third round, we're going to go to work and submit this for him.
joe rogan
That's why I was really interested to see what would happen with Tyron Woodley and Carlos Condit.
I agree.
brendan schaub
You're going to see it in Roy McDonald though.
Roy McDonald drag his athlete once.
Maybe.
If he can survive the onslaught.
joe rogan
Woodley is so fucking fast and strong.
brendan schaub
So athletic, man.
You should see this guy in the gym hit mitts.
joe rogan
No, I didn't want to see it.
unidentified
I'm scared.
joe rogan
It's insane.
brendan schaub
Bro, it's insane.
bryan callen
I almost spit my wine.
I don't want to see it.
brendan schaub
And he might play third in Mr. Olympia right now.
bryan callen
Best body I've ever seen.
Why would you wear clothes when you walk to the grocery store?
It's ridiculous.
Just wear a bandana.
joe rogan
And a feather.
Forget it.
I hope.
brendan schaub
Bro, I saw him hit mitts with his trainer arm.
Has he got a piece on?
Real Pete had some tight Valley Tudor shorts on.
bryan callen
God bless him.
brendan schaub
No shirt.
I had things to do.
I just chilled.
unidentified
Watched him.
brendan schaub
Man.
joe rogan
I had things to do.
brendan schaub
I had things to do, man.
joe rogan
How often is it a wild card?
brendan schaub
What's up?
joe rogan
He's not an L.A. guy.
How often is he out here?
brendan schaub
He's out here because striking coach Arnold is out of wild card.
So he's out here all the time.
aubrey marcus
Funny thing about Arnold, I met Arnold doing...
brendan schaub
Stunt director, right?
aubrey marcus
Yeah, I was an extra in a B-movie with Heath Herring.
And Heath Haring was beating me up and stealing my girlfriend in the movie.
And Arnold was the stunt coordinator.
joe rogan
What's Heath doing now?
He's playing poker?
aubrey marcus
He's playing poker.
brendan schaub
Heath Haring is?
joe rogan
Yeah.
bryan callen
Heath Haring is playing poker?
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
One more round shirt.
joe rogan
What a fucking legit wild man Heath Haring is.
I'll never forget his fight with Tom Erickson.
Tom Erickson was on top of him, dominating him.
And he was getting tired, and they stood him up in pride.
And when they stood him up, Heath Heron just goes, Woo!
Fucking slaps his hands together.
And Erickson was like, Oh, fucking Christ.
And he just charged after Heron and smashed him.
brendan schaub
Remember when that dude kissed him?
And he knocked him out.
joe rogan
Classic.
At the fucking stare down.
unidentified
At the stare down.
brendan schaub
He kisses him.
joe rogan
Whack!
bryan callen
Kicked him out.
joe rogan
He just shook his head before he punched him.
unidentified
Boom!
brendan schaub
You can tell he thought about it.
joe rogan
He's like, oh hell no.
Fuck this.
unidentified
Fuck it.
Boom!
brendan schaub
He got suspended.
joe rogan
That was dope.
They probably gave him some money too, though.
brendan schaub
These guys are very similar, but the difference in this fight will be Tim Means just has a nasty, nasty streak.
joe rogan
Oh, this is 170. Yes.
Means has been fighting at 55, though.
Has he not?
He's been fighting in MFC. He's been fighting in MFC. But before that, when he fought in the UFC, I believe he's fighting...
unidentified
Look at this look.
brendan schaub
Look at this look.
What are we doing?
bryan callen
He does remind me of Carlos Comet.
brendan schaub
Right?
joe rogan
Yeah, he's fought in lightweight.
bryan callen
Or me.
joe rogan
He fought lightweight quite a few times.
bryan callen
I'm going to get some tattoos.
What kind of tattoos should I get, guys?
joe rogan
You should get a dove.
Yeah, he fought Danny Castillo.
brendan schaub
You should get a big dick on your chest like Brock Lesnar.
bryan callen
And a dove.
A dove with a dick flying through.
joe rogan
He lost twice in the UFC at lightweight.
He lost against Masvidal, and he lost against Danny Castillo.
So I think that he was having a hard time making that weight.
And why would he?
He's only six foot fucking two.
These crazy assholes.
brendan schaub
Magny's 6'3", bro.
joe rogan
I know.
These crazy fuckers that drop all that weight.
brendan schaub
Those are my boys, Lauren Lando, in the back.
bryan callen
6'3", 170, and he's got muscle on him.
That's crazy.
I mean, that's...
brendan schaub
Magny's reach is insane.
bryan callen
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Like I said, the difference is, these guys are very similar, same size.
Magny has great footwork, but Tim Means just has this killer instinct.
bryan callen
Where's Magny out of?
brendan schaub
Jackson?
unidentified
Denver.
brendan schaub
No, Denver.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
Yeah, Means is like a dirty mountain boy.
brendan schaub
Means is like, you want to go to the ground?
unidentified
Cool.
brendan schaub
Does not care where it goes, man.
He just wants to finish the fight.
bryan callen
But Magny will not get tired, huh?
brendan schaub
Nope.
joe rogan
Means has got real good head movement, too.
I like how he, that long reach, another thing that people don't talk about, about long reach.
Yeah, but the long reach, the ability to bend at the waist and move away from shit, that's one of the things that Jon Jones does so well.
brendan schaub
Best in the world.
joe rogan
Moving away from shit.
brendan schaub
Not getting hit.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
I guarantee you the game plan here for Neil Magny is don't, as soon as you hit the cage, get off.
You're going to see him circling, constantly circling.
joe rogan
It's interesting how different body types have different advantages.
Like, you got that Husamar Paul Jarez body.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
That is just a huge advantage.
brendan schaub
Made for ripping off legs?
joe rogan
Ripping off legs.
And if you watch this fight with Ivan Salivari, basically anything he does in grappling, he's just so ridiculously strong.
brendan schaub
He just came out of his mom and put her in an ankle lock.
Just a ridiculous dude.
joe rogan
Did you ever see a video of him rolling with Mayhem Miller?
bryan callen
Yeah.
I talked to Mayhem about that.
Mayhem said he was really hungover, though.
joe rogan
Yeah, whatever, whatever.
I would say that, too, if I got fucking hip-tossed and strangled like that.
bryan callen
And Mayhem is such a monster, you know, for a guy like me.
joe rogan
Paul Haar is a scary guy.
bryan callen
Me and Dove Davidoff tried to fight Mayhem one time.
We tried to grab him, and he...
brendan schaub
Ooh, good jab.
See, I like this moving out of Neal.
But like I said, you see what I mean by point sparring?
It's just jab, move, jab, move, jab, move.
joe rogan
There's no bad intentions.
Yeah, he's not loading up on anything.
aubrey marcus
So what's the difference between his style and the Diaz brothers then?
Because they kind of have that stuff.
joe rogan
Diaz brothers load up eventually.
But Diaz...
Pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop.
Boom, boom to the body.
brendan schaub
Diaz is...
It's almost like a machine gun...
It's like...
For five rounds.
bryan callen
They also seem like high-level boxers in comparison.
joe rogan
Well, Diaz has an incredible chin, especially Nick.
brendan schaub
They just come forward.
They just keep coming.
joe rogan
Nick has an incredible chin.
brendan schaub
And then eventually just wears guys out.
joe rogan
Well, Frank Shamrock said it best when he fought Nick Diaz.
He's like, you can't breathe because he's always hitting you.
And every time he hits you, you tighten up.
Because even if it's only a 50% shot, you still have to hold your breath.
And then he rips you to the body.
Oh, wow.
You never breathe.
brendan schaub
And he's landing 80% of those 50 shots.
It's crazy, man.
joe rogan
And he does triathlons.
And he swam back from Alcatraz twice.
bryan callen
Come on, stop it.
joe rogan
Yes, he did.
bryan callen
Are you kidding?
joe rogan
Shark-infested water.
bryan callen
He's out of his mind.
I love that guy more than I love that guy.
joe rogan
I asked him to come on the podcast.
I just don't believe he'll show up.
I would have him on.
I love that fucking guy like I love my mother, but I would only have him on if I had a backup guest.
unidentified
I'm coming.
bryan callen
Please, please, please.
unidentified
They took his brother out of the rankings, huh?
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't know about all that.
I don't know what that was all about.
That bothers me.
brendan schaub
He just doesn't want to fight, huh?
joe rogan
No, he wants more money.
He wants more money because he found out what Gilbert got.
Because Gilbert's his buddy.
And there was a contract negotiation with Gilbert.
Bellator was trying to pick up Gilbert when his contract was over.
And they gave Gilbert a shit ton of money.
And Nate is like, what the fuck?
And so there's some sort of contract negotiation.
You can't be mad at that.
bryan callen
They should pay Nate.
Nate's awesome.
joe rogan
I love Nate, and I agree.
But I don't know who his manager is.
I don't know who negotiated his contract.
I don't know what the deal is.
But a deal's a deal's a deal's a deal.
brendan schaub
You gotta stick to it, guys.
Nice takedown by Neil.
joe rogan
It's one of those things where you talk publicly, you talk shit about the UFC. You're not going to win, man.
What motivation do they have to give you more money?
brendan schaub
Well, the other thing is, too, is guys forget there's no bigger guy than the UFC. The UFC's going to keep on...
The circus keeps on going.
If one of the elephants fall out, the circus keeps on going, man.
joe rogan
How about Eddie Alvarez backing out of the fucking Michael Chandler?
brendan schaub
Oh, Bellator's first pay-per-view?
Whoops.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
It's gone.
It's gone.
It's going to evaporate.
There's not going to be a pay-per-view.
brendan schaub
No, they're still doing it.
They found a backup, right?
Some guy filled in.
I've never heard of him.
That's the problem.
joe rogan
Oh, no.
unidentified
Are you serious?
brendan schaub
And now you want people's money?
bryan callen
This is a really strange fight because it almost looks like they're sparring and it doesn't matter.
brendan schaub
I told you it's a lot of point sparring.
bryan callen
Yeah.
They just don't look that...
It's interesting.
brendan schaub
Tim Means is a slow starter, too.
Wait until the second and third round.
bryan callen
He literally doesn't seem concerned about any low kicks whatsoever.
He's just kind of...
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
By the way, this might be one of my favorite podcasts ever.
bryan callen
Just hanging out watching fights, ladies and gentlemen.
joe rogan
Watching fights.
brendan schaub
Just four guys with their pants.
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
Magni tagged him!
Nice left by Magni.
bryan callen
Now you should have kept...
joe rogan
Look, it means fucking hanging in there, man.
brendan schaub
I'm sorry, Brian, are you coaching?
bryan callen
No, I wasn't.
No, I wasn't.
joe rogan
You should have what?
bryan callen
See, I stopped myself.
I was like, hold on.
joe rogan
Brian and I have conversations, and they're not nearly as frustrating to me as they must be to you.
Brian and I have conversations.
I just sit on the outside and call the fights.
But Brian and I have conversations, and I go...
That's not how it works.
Why don't guys just crescent kick?
brendan schaub
There's no crescent kicks.
bryan callen
You haven't seen my crescent kicks.
brendan schaub
Last weekend during the Mayweather fight, I had to look over him.
I go, hey bro, do you mind just shutting the fuck up for two rounds for me?
And he goes, nah, nah, nah.
bryan callen
Can't shut up, bro.
You need my point of view.
brendan schaub
Agni's up 1-0 for sure.
bryan callen
I want to get a shirt that says Venom.
So get a dove, huh?
How about Venom as a...
unidentified
I need a good cotton tattoo.
brendan schaub
You do need a couple tats.
joe rogan
You know, I have a problem.
The only problem that I have with Bellator, the only problem is that there's not cross-fights.
brendan schaub
What do you mean?
joe rogan
Like, you know how, like, if a Bob Arum-promoted fighter wants to fight a Golden Boy-promoted fighter, they figure out a way to make it happen.
brendan schaub
Except for Pacquiao-Mayweather.
joe rogan
Except for Pacquiao-Mayweather.
And arguably, that might be Mayweather doesn't want to fight Pacquiao-wise.
brendan schaub
No, I heard otherwise.
joe rogan
Pacquiao?
brendan schaub
Yes.
joe rogan
Didn't want to fight Mayweather?
brendan schaub
Didn't want to do the drug test.
joe rogan
Oh.
I don't know about that.
I don't know.
It might be true.
I mean, total, complete speculation.
That also could be propaganda from the Mayweather camp.
I'm not inside enough to speculate.
However...
brendan schaub
What were you saying, though, about matchmaking?
joe rogan
Where there's smoke, there's fire.
So many people have said that Pacquiao's doing something.
When a guy moves up one weight class, you go, well, that's normal.
The guy's growing.
When a guy moves up eight...
Weak classes.
brendan schaub
And knocks bitches out.
unidentified
And knocks bitches out.
brendan schaub
That's a lot.
It's like, that's weird.
joe rogan
Okay.
You know, speaking as a guy who's actually done steroids, I would say maybe he's done some steroids.
bryan callen
I'd say maybe he has.
joe rogan
I'm just saying.
I'm just saying.
I used to take this shit called MAG-10 that used to buy at GNC. All the shit I've done.
Testosterone replacement, all the shit I've done.
MAG-10 was the craziest shit, and I couldn't believe you could buy it.
brendan schaub
Was that the shit like Martin Reward and all the guys were taking it?
unidentified
No, no, no.
joe rogan
They would take Industream Dione.
I don't know what this MAG-10 was, but they made it illegal quick.
I did a cycle with it, I grew tits, my dick was as hard as a telephone pole.
bryan callen
The cat couldn't scratch it.
joe rogan
It was unbelievable.
I've never had roid rage with anything that I've ever done, because I'm a pretty calm guy, but the closest I ever got to roid rage is this shit.
brendan schaub
On that stuff, huh?
joe rogan
You would take 10 pills a day.
You would buy it at the store, take 10 pills a day, And I was like, how could I gain 10 pounds of muscle in six weeks.
And I'm not joking.
Well, here's how I know it's not healthy.
Because when I stopped taking it, my dick just went, hey, I'm going camping.
My dick was like, hey, I quit.
I quit.
My dick wasn't normal for a month and a half.
aubrey marcus
Internet searches for Mag10 just went through the fucking roof.
joe rogan
I know, I know, I know.
Well, it's not legal.
You can't buy it anymore.
Okay, let me see if I can find it.
aubrey marcus
If anybody finds Mag07, it just makes you shit, so don't get excited.
You'll find that in the store.
joe rogan
And that's the thing that I'll say that I did steroids because I did this.
I mean, even though it's not considered a steroid because you could buy it at GMC. GNC, rather.
It's fucking steroids, man.
Biotest Mag10.
It doesn't exist anymore.
You can't buy it anymore.
Yeah, 2001. It's illegal now.
Yeah.
It was incredible.
Might have been the greatest thing I've ever taken in my life.
bryan callen
It's 10 pounds of muscle.
brendan schaub
I'm sure you didn't take the daily recommended dose.
joe rogan
I did.
Well, the daily recommended dose, whatever it did, turned you into a fucking monkey.
It was crazy.
bryan callen
I can't figure out what the game plan is for either one of these guys.
joe rogan
I was recovering from an ACL injury, so I was taking it.
At the same time I was taking it, I was really lifting really heavy because I couldn't do any jiu-jitsu.
unidentified
Upper body?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, all upper body.
Lower body, for the first couple months, all I was doing was bodyweight squats, just very light, trying to increase my flexibility and all that.
Tim Means, all over him, man.
I like his nickname too, Dirty Bird.
bryan callen
Dirty Bird.
brendan schaub
Dirty Bird just said, sponsors?
Nah, I'm good.
joe rogan
You know what I like about Magnin?
unidentified
I'm good.
brendan schaub
Put my Dirty Bird logo on the back.
aubrey marcus
He's kneeing the back of his legs.
joe rogan
You know what I like about Bellator?
Jimmy Smith.
That motherfucker.
Great guy.
And fucking on point as a commentator.
brendan schaub
Clear.
He's very clear.
joe rogan
Very clear.
Knows his shit.
Black belt in jujitsu.
Damn, Means hitting him with the head.
Means to the head when he was on the ground.
brendan schaub
Come on, ref!
joe rogan
What the fuck, man?
aubrey marcus
I think he was up.
joe rogan
He definitely got one in while his hand was down.
brendan schaub
One or two for sure.
joe rogan
It's a tricky thing, man.
I don't like that knee-to-the-ground thing, knee-on-the-ground fighter.
bryan callen
Because you can kind of sit there, right?
joe rogan
Well, you can job the system by touching your hand and lifting it up and touching your hand and lifting it up.
That doesn't make sense for fighting to me.
brendan schaub
No.
joe rogan
I think the knees to the head for a grounded opponent should be legal unless a part of your body is touching the cage.
bryan callen
Why did they make that illegal?
Because it's dangerous?
joe rogan
This is where I think it should be illegal.
When a guy's got his head pressed up against the cage, you can't go anywhere.
You can't move.
That's why I like soccer kicks and stomps and pride, because you could always spin your head around and go under the cage to avoid the technique.
brendan schaub
You know why I don't think they ever make that legal?
Because America's not ready for it.
They think the sport's too violent as it is now.
joe rogan
Then the terrorists win.
The terrorists win.
bryan callen
You can't punt somebody's head like a soccer ball.
joe rogan
But why not?
bryan callen
It would hurt.
joe rogan
Give me some of that fancy wine, son.
bryan callen
You would get unwanted press.
joe rogan
Yeah, but I don't believe in unwanted press.
I think it's bullshit as long as you can debate it.
Why should you be allowed to wheel kick a guy in the head but you can't soccer kick him?
brendan schaub
I agree.
bryan callen
Probably because a wheel kick is harder to get off.
brendan schaub
So what?
Straight soccer kick Ron Waterman in the face.
joe rogan
Oh god, horrific.
brendan schaub
Little story about Ron Waterman.
Choked me out with his titties when I was a white belt.
Literally put my face between his tits and choked me out.
unidentified
Come on, really?
joe rogan
Unconscious?
Unconscious or you tapped?
brendan schaub
I tapped.
But he almost broke my nose.
He almost broke my nose.
joe rogan
He was a big fuck.
And he was doing it for Jesus.
brendan schaub
Real set of tits on him, though.
Hurt my nose, man.
joe rogan
And he was choking you for Jesus, right?
unidentified
Huge.
brendan schaub
Choked me for Jesus.
joe rogan
Did he give you a cross afterwards or maybe a Bible quote?
brendan schaub
He gave me a little pep talk.
Slap on the ass, give me a pep talk.
Bought me a sandwich.
I was super embarrassed.
Shane goes, don't worry, brother.
He did that to me before.
joe rogan
Look at that sandwich.
The KFC thing that they're promoting, that double down.
I'm a big fan of that.
brendan schaub
Hell no!
I haven't had fast food in almost 12 years.
joe rogan
You don't need to have it.
You know, there's a place in Montreal called Joe Beef, and they did a variation on the double down.
Ready for this?
Two chunks of foie gras.
So two pieces of deep fried duck liver.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
In between bacon and cheese.
And it might be the best thing I've ever had in my life.
brendan schaub
You know what?
I don't like shitting my pants, so I don't eat that stuff.
I do not eat that stuff.
Bro, you want to shit your pants?
joe rogan
Okay, I don't, but go ahead.
Thanks.
unidentified
Hey, thanks.
bryan callen
No, good question.
Good question.
Absolutely not.
brendan schaub
If you want to shit your pants...
Drink a shitload of coconut oil.
joe rogan
Okay.
aubrey marcus
MCT oil.
Sure.
joe rogan
Oh, I drink that shit every day.
brendan schaub
Not a heavy dose.
Heavy dose in the morning...
I had to run back.
I was headed to the gym.
I had to run back.
joe rogan
Nothing has made me rocket shit out of my asshole like kale shakes.
I drink a kale shake in the morning.
brendan schaub
Those don't bother me.
joe rogan
For me.
It doesn't bother me, but it's basically like forcing Roto-Rooter down the drain.
bryan callen
Well, they say you're not supposed to drink too many kale shakes, too many spinach shakes and things because it's a big leafy green vegetable.
There's a lot of toxins in the leaf.
joe rogan
No, there's not toxins.
It's exolic acid.
brendan schaub
It's healthy.
Brian, you could use that.
You look malnerved.
joe rogan
Hey, listen, knucklehead.
You've got to stop saying shit like that when you don't research it.
bryan callen
I have researched it.
joe rogan
No, you haven't.
Because you can counteract all that stuff with calcium.
Oxalic acid is the problem, but you can counteract it with calcium.
bryan callen
No, no, no.
Here's what they'll say about it.
unidentified
Google it before you say anything.
You're like the CrossFit guy with tits.
bryan callen
Leafy greens, here's the issue.
brendan schaub
Everyone stop listening right now.
bryan callen
The problem is that a lot of times leafy greens, because they have to keep insects and vermin away, they produce something called oxalic acid.
joe rogan
You counter that with calcium.
Just go online.
bryan callen
It's not just oxalic acid.
joe rogan
Shut the fuck up.
bryan callen
It's not just oxalic acid.
joe rogan
What are these other things?
Meanwhile, Tim Means is all over.
Neil Magny.
bryan callen
That's what I was going to say.
brendan schaub
This is a close fight.
joe rogan
This is a super close fight.
brendan schaub
Neil won the first round.
joe rogan
What other things, Brian?
Google it.
Google it and then come back.
bryan callen
Toxins that keep insects away.
joe rogan
There's no other toxins.
bryan callen
You don't know.
joe rogan
I know better than you.
bryan callen
You're not a green leaf expert, bro.
joe rogan
You should start drinking green shakes.
I'm an expert in Googling shit before I talk about it.
Okay, I have a very popular podcast.
bryan callen
I've had several scientists on my podcast.
joe rogan
Oh, Tim Means with the fucking power guillotine!
brendan schaub
He got out of it again.
joe rogan
When guys go to their back.
Guys go to their back.
That's twice we've seen that with Cariasso.
brendan schaub
Mary Dos Santos and Kane, same thing.
joe rogan
Look at Sean Shelby texting people, not even watching the fights.
Guy's fucking ringside, the greatest fucking sporting event.
Look at Bruce Buffer.
He's sleeping.
He's sleeping.
Sean Shelby's texting people.
brendan schaub
That's when you know you've been to too many fights.
joe rogan
You're never going to see that from me, man.
Never going to see that from me.
You see me ringside in a fight, you see me either glued to a monitor or watching the fights.
People always ask me that.
Are you bored?
Fucking never.
Never.
Never.
When those bells ring, especially a fight like this, this is a great fucking fight.
brendan schaub
Back and forth, for sure.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah, man.
This is a great fight.
Brian, Google it.
bryan callen
Just Google it so you know for yourself that you're wrong.
joe rogan
Dave Asprey?
bryan callen
Dave Asprey and John Durant.
I believe.
joe rogan
Dave Asprey, you fuck.
You're not even paying attention.
Dave Asprey offers solutions.
He offers solutions.
Calcium is one of them.
bryan callen
Fuck.
joe rogan
You hurt my feelings because I love you.
bryan callen
Whatever, dude.
joe rogan
I love you, but you give out shitty information and then I get tweets by the thousands.
They fucking hate.
They hate.
It comes at me.
I'm like, I love them.
I hate them.
You don't know them.
bryan callen
You tell your fucking listeners.
joe rogan
We're flawed.
I'm flawed, too.
Everyone's flawed.
You know, I have a real problem with people that only complain about people.
They don't talk shit about themselves.
That really bothers me.
There's a lot of that with people who write blogs.
bryan callen
I never talk shit about anybody.
It's a bore.
brendan schaub
You're just talking shit about vegetables.
I don't appreciate it.
joe rogan
You're talking shit about spinach.
brendan schaub
I spinach.
I juice every morning, you fuck.
Every morning.
bryan callen
Yeah.
brendan schaub
I feel great.
bryan callen
You look very toxic.
joe rogan
Spinach has feelings too, bro.
bryan callen
Brennan looks pretty healthy, by the way.
joe rogan
He's a healthy fucking animal.
Look at him.
He's a savage.
bryan callen
He looks pretty healthy.
joe rogan
He better be healthy.
He's a fucking UFC fighter.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
He's got no choice, really.
joe rogan
He's a professional cage fighter.
bryan callen
I don't have many convictions, by the way.
joe rogan
Oh!
bryan callen
I don't fight for my point of view.
unidentified
Look at this.
brendan schaub
That could be the difference.
joe rogan
And look at me.
It's starting to slow down.
brendan schaub
Neil Magdy's main training partner, Nate Markhart.
bryan callen
Is that right?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, boy.
unidentified
Nate...
brendan schaub
Oh!
unidentified
Boy!
joe rogan
Wow, so close.
Means fucking exploded out of the gates of hell.
bryan callen
He's got him in his long legs, man.
joe rogan
Good body triangle.
Or good, rather, back mount.
brendan schaub
Look at that.
joe rogan
Switches to mount.
brendan schaub
When Neil came off, I think he was the Ultimate Fighter 14, when Shane Carwin was the coach, he lived with Nate Mercart and his wife.
They loved having him around so much, he basically stayed there for a year and became their babysitter.
bryan callen
Is that right?
brendan schaub
True story.
unidentified
Wow.
aubrey marcus
Think some freaky stuff was going on?
brendan schaub
I like to think so, but no.
aubrey marcus
Easy!
unidentified
I don't know!
Aubrey!
Aubrey!
Google your information before you say things like that!
aubrey marcus
I don't think that's on Google, Brian!
bryan callen
For God's sake, man!
joe rogan
Magny, he keeps trying to get that back triangle, but can't get it.
Look at Means controlling that one arm.
Yep, that's a big move, but look at this.
He gives up the fucking mount.
Goes to butterfly, half guard.
brendan schaub
Neil's trying to isolate that arm.
bryan callen
Ooh, get that arm.
joe rogan
Yeah, get that arm, but he doesn't have that arm in the right position.
If you're gonna isolate it, you gotta get that left arm across the chin.
Why isn't he going to head and arm in the first place?
It's a weird position he's holding here.
brendan schaub
Super weird.
And why isn't homeboy getting...
Did he pass the side?
He's just tired.
joe rogan
He's taking a little break there.
No, he's still in his half guard.
He's just taking a little break there.
But Neil's giving him all sorts of space.
Look at all the space.
I was over at Hicks and Gracie's house once, and we watched Coliseum 2000. What is that?
It was a mixed martial arts event in Japan, back in the Dizze, when Hickson fought Funaki.
And that was, I think, Hickson's last fight.
bryan callen
What is he talking about?
Look at him.
brendan schaub
I don't know, but Neil won 2-1, I think.
What were we saying, though, Joe?
joe rogan
But Hickson was so amazing watching fights with Hickson when he starts breaking down positions.
brendan schaub
I can't imagine.
bryan callen
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, he gets disgusted when he sees space.
When he sees guys with their shitty side control and shitty mounts.
unidentified
And he goes, when I go to, when we start, we're in neutral position.
joe rogan
Well, if I go to one, we're not going back to one.
Zero.
We start at zero, I move to one, and from one, I go to two.
I'm not going back to zero.
I'm going to one, and then to two, and then checkmate.
Checkmate.
unidentified
Gangster.
joe rogan
The way he's saying it, it's like, I believe you.
bryan callen
By the way, I've never seen, has he ever cracked a joke in his life?
Is he dead serious all the time?
joe rogan
I don't know.
I mean, I'm sure if you're around him, and you've fucking been strangled by him sufficiently, that he knows that you understand your position in the food chain.
bryan callen
Frank Grillo, my buddy who trained with him for a long time, was on his competition team.
joe rogan
Was he a Green Beret, Navy SEAL, sniper that you know, guy who served, combat athlete, riot police, former world champion.
Tell me about all your friends.
bryan callen
He won the world championships.
unidentified
Dude, tell me about all your friends because they make you a better person.
Tell me about all your friends because they make you a better person.
bryan callen
You find out that Frank Gerla doesn't even exist.
He was in Captain America.
He played the villain.
joe rogan
Is he one of the jerky boys?
bryan callen
No, he was in Captain America.
He played one of the villains.
I didn't see it, but the latest Captain America.
He had a big part.
And he said that Hickson would let you put him in his purple belt.
Anybody put him in literally like a chokehold and count to ten.
He'd be like, I'm going to get out of this in ten, nine, eight.
He would tell you what he was going to do to you.
joe rogan
He would let black belts do that.
bryan callen
Yeah, he would tell you what he was going to do to you.
I'm going to put you in an armbar no matter what you do to defend.
joe rogan
Full back control with the hooks in, rear naked choke locked in, and he would get out.
bryan callen
Yep.
brendan schaub
It's ridiculous.
Come on, Neil!
Get the win!
joe rogan
But it's not if you let a white belt do it to you.
bryan callen
Yeah.
joe rogan
I would let a white belt do that to me.
brendan schaub
I agree.
bryan callen
Hickson hates Kale.
brendan schaub
Yeah!
joe rogan
Neil Magny.
Nice.
A lot of that is that style of never committing 100% to everything.
bryan callen
What's his name?
Ran off, huh?
brendan schaub
He's not happy, Brian.
He just lost a really big fight.
joe rogan
Big fucking event.
Where's Magni Train now?
brendan schaub
He's at Grudge.
joe rogan
Still Colorado?
brendan schaub
Oh!
He's not at Grudge.
His head coach is Leicester Bowling, and he's with Nate Mark Hart and Cody Donovan, those guys in Denver.
joe rogan
At Elevate?
brendan schaub
Yes, sir.
Team Elevate.
And they train at that Muscle Farm gym.
That gym's ridiculous.
joe rogan
Is it?
brendan schaub
State of the art.
It's ridiculous.
joe rogan
Tim Kennedy was on the podcast the other day talking mad shit about Muscle Farm products.
I've never had them.
brendan schaub
I've never had it myself.
I just know the facility.
I love Six Star products.
I just know the Muscle Farm gym is nice.
Their products probably make you shit your pants.
I don't know.
I don't know.
joe rogan
Everything makes him shit his pants.
bryan callen
Everything makes him shit his pants.
brendan schaub
I need high quality shit.
aubrey marcus
You might like that though.
joe rogan
I'm not a big fan of shit in my pants.
aubrey marcus
That depends what I'm doing.
brendan schaub
It depends what I'm doing.
If it's Saturday night, got nothing to do, put on a good movie, shit my pants.
bryan callen
Hey, by the way, thanks for animating that shit story video that Joe and I did.
joe rogan
Who animated it?
bryan callen
Oh, dude, you didn't get it?
joe rogan
Some guy online?
bryan callen
Yeah, they animated it and made it really funny, too.
joe rogan
Dude, there's so many funny fucking people online, man.
bryan callen
Oh, it was so great.
joe rogan
Was your shit story about you running around away from the girl in the woods?
bryan callen
No, when we were talking about...
When I was telling you the shit story.
joe rogan
Oh, the one, the shit story when we were...
We shit on a stick.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Dude, your story that no one's animated, someone...
Hear my call.
The story that you told about running away from a girl, Brian was hiking with a girl and he had to shit his pants, so he made a game out of it and ran into the woods.
She's like, where are you going?
He's like, I'll be right back.
bryan callen
I'm trying to scare you!
joe rogan
He ran into the woods and he shit his pants.
bryan callen
I was shouting out of my asshole.
Shouting out of my asshole.
My asshole was literally, by the end of it, was like...
And she came walking.
I was like, look at the hawk!
I was trying to make faces at her.
She's like, what are you doing?
Quick, run around here!
joe rogan
There's a bear.
bryan callen
Three more times.
She finally heard it because I couldn't get around in time.
She goes, are you sick?
I go, I think so.
joe rogan
So she smelled it?
bryan callen
I had to walk her back through the minefield.
We had to turn back around.
My poor asshole.
Oh, chasing, dirty.
joe rogan
You know, if a girl can deal with that, if you can say, hey, listen, I don't want to lie to you, but I got fucking crazy diarrhea.
Like a first date?
bryan callen
Yeah, guess what?
She couldn't deal with it.
In fact, saw her a year later at Kinko's and she ran out of the fucking Kinko's.
joe rogan
But that's good.
That's good.
You got off light.
You're right.
What would you do?
If you were on a date with a chick and she said she has mad diarrhea, I said, look, we're human.
It's all good.
That's what I would say.
bryan callen
Well, yeah, so you would say I'd fuck her anyway.
joe rogan
Well, you'd definitely fuck her anyway.
But I probably wouldn't fuck her right then.
bryan callen
I'd let her wash up.
Diarrhea doesn't really get my dick hard.
joe rogan
But the thing is, I wouldn't judge her.
But some people would get upset at you.
And that's just a weakness thing.
They would sense weakness in you.
But they'd probably sense weakness in you because you tried to hide it.
Whereas a guy like me would say, Hey, listen, I got fucking diarrhea.
Yeah.
So you deal with this or not, it's all good.
I couldn't understand if you hate me now, but I'm gonna go shit behind this tree.
bryan callen
I was in an acting class and this fucking guy...
joe rogan
Okay, I gotta say this because this is on.
I fucking hate this Nas commercial and I'm done.
You can't keep showing this goddamn thing.
Where the guy throws all these wild kicks and the other guy comes out and punches him in the face.
aubrey marcus
And then drinks some caffeine.
joe rogan
Yeah, punches him in the face and then eats Crank.
brendan schaub
Boom!
joe rogan
And then he's like, yeah, fucking cool, calm, and collected.
I'll just have some caffeine because I just knocked a guy out.
brendan schaub
No nonsense.
joe rogan
I totally need to be stimulated because I just knocked a guy out.
bryan callen
Nas.
aubrey marcus
I was once on a, like, really super early in dating this girl, and I got food poisoning.
We were sleeping in the same hotel room together.
So we met in Greece, so I'd drink a bunch of ouzo and pass the fuck out.
Like, terrible food poisoning.
joe rogan
What's ouzo?
bryan callen
Uzo's a Greek liquor.
aubrey marcus
Yeah, because I thought maybe it'd help the food poisoning.
joe rogan
Good call.
aubrey marcus
I slept like a fucking baby.
Woke up, and I woke up, and I hear...
Oh my god.
And I was like, what?
bryan callen
No!
aubrey marcus
What?
I was like, oh no.
bryan callen
No, no, no.
unidentified
You did not.
aubrey marcus
And she just jumps out of the bed.
bryan callen
No, you shit!
joe rogan
You and I shit the bed?
aubrey marcus
In a huge round circle.
joe rogan
You shit the bed?
bryan callen
God damn it!
That's a huge issue!
You have to throw away the fucking mattress!
joe rogan
That's not what's important.
What's important is...
What happened afterwards with the girl?
aubrey marcus
Well, it was a lot of laughter.
And any time I would try to be, like, romantic and we'd be having a wine...
bryan callen
She couldn't take care of it.
aubrey marcus
She'd just look at me and just crack the fuck up.
brendan schaub
Not having it.
aubrey marcus
I'd be like, oh, because I shit myself, right?
brendan schaub
She wouldn't have told your friend you're the shit guy.
joe rogan
So did you ever fuck her again after that?
aubrey marcus
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
brendan schaub
We made it faster.
joe rogan
Look at this fucking pregame!
This girl's tits are popping out.
bryan callen
Easy.
joe rogan
And she's with a black guy that they'll never let fuck her on TV. I'm upset.
brendan schaub
I'm upset.
bryan callen
Your voice gets very high when you get upset.
joe rogan
I get angry.
Look at that.
She's hot as fuck.
bryan callen
That's ridiculous.
brendan schaub
Have you ever had a girl blow up your bathroom?
joe rogan
Oh yeah.
brendan schaub
Deal breaker.
bryan callen
I have.
joe rogan
No.
brendan schaub
Lose my number.
joe rogan
No.
brendan schaub
You blow up my bathroom?
Ever.
unidentified
Lose my number.
joe rogan
There's pheromones in there.
You and I are different.
bryan callen
No, I had a problem.
brendan schaub
Fight of the night right here.
joe rogan
Oh yeah.
Darren Crookshank and Eric Cook are about to fight right now.
New Breed and Detroit Superstar about to throw down.
bryan callen
Great.
unidentified
Boom!
bryan callen
Oh my god.
joe rogan
Coke, Duke Rufus, trained fighter.
And so is Crookshank, by the way.
When I was at Duke's camp, I was training at Duke's place when I was in Minneapolis, and Crookshank was there, and Coke is one of his boys.
So this is kind of interesting.
brendan schaub
I didn't know that.
bryan callen
Brendan, you have a tough, this is a crazy, I gotta just say.
brendan schaub
Please don't say something stupid.
bryan callen
Don't say something like, I can't believe this is your job.
joe rogan
You got a bottle opener?
bryan callen
Goddammit, scary.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I'm nervous as shit.
When you see that little thing pop up at the bottom that says UFC 174, I go like this.
joe rogan
What makes you scared?
brendan schaub
It's not that I'm scared, it's just nervous.
joe rogan
Oh, you see it, so you have to think about it?
Do you try to avoid thinking about fights as much as possible before you do them?
brendan schaub
That's a good question.
By the time I get home, I'm so exhausted, I really don't think about it.
I'll wake up sometimes, I'll sleep like shit, thinking about Arlovsky, stuff like that, but...
I'm just so exhausted by the time I get home.
joe rogan
I would never compare myself to anything that you've done, but I did some competing when I was younger, and one of the things that I found was I won the U.S. Open when I was 19 years old, and one of the reasons I think that I won it is because I didn't think I was fighting, and it was because I had fought the week before, and I had injured my hamstring.
Or my groin, rather.
And the tournament was the week after that, and I was like, well, I'm not going to fight.
I'm hurt.
I need to heal up.
And then I woke up the morning of the fights, and I had a bunch of donuts, which I never would normally eat.
And then I had some coffee, because I used to have a paper route.
That's how I used to make money when I was fighting.
I used to get up in the morning.
I'd get up at 5 a.m., and I would deliver papers from 5 to 7, and then I'd go back to sleep.
bryan callen
Wow.
joe rogan
And so I had these fucking Dunkin' Donuts donuts with powdered sugar and lemon filling and I had some Boston cream donuts and I was lit up with sugar and I was like, I'm fucking fighting!
So I got in my car.
I went home.
brendan schaub
You just didn't think about it.
joe rogan
I packed my bag.
Not only did I not think about it, I told myself I wasn't fighting.
So for a week, I was relaxed as fuck.
And I did no training whatsoever.
I mean, I might have did some stretching.
I definitely worked out in the pool.
Because that's what I would do when I wasn't fighting if I was injured.
I tore my sartorius muscle.
Besides my ACL, it was one of the biggest injuries I ever had.
What the hell is a sartorius muscle?
It connects your hip to your quadriceps.
It's a pretty big muscle, and it was a pretty bad injury.
brendan schaub
Sounds like a dinosaur.
joe rogan
It was for a few months.
I couldn't throw any kicks at all.
It was pretty bad.
Besides that, I hurt myself, so I said, you know what, let me just take some time off.
I did a little swimming and this and that.
And the day of, I decided, fuck it, I'm fighting.
unidentified
But I fought so good because I had slept good.
brendan schaub
You probably just relaxed, huh?
joe rogan
I slept good.
I relaxed.
The whole week, I wasn't nervous.
I had zero nerves the whole week because I was convinced that I wasn't fighting.
So it was just a sugar rush, a split decision.
You just wonder you did work.
As a Taekwondo fighter, it was one of my biggest victories, winning the U.S. Open.
It was like a big fucking...
aubrey marcus
I've also heard from some athletes, when you're a little bit injured, too, it kind of takes some of the pressure off you for your own performance.
You're like, well, I'm injured anyway.
bryan callen
Also, you don't over-train.
You don't over-train.
I think Bernard Hopkins, will you tell me?
Bernard Hopkins said something like, why would I train?
Most of these guys over-train.
He doesn't even train them.
joe rogan
Well, now as he's older, and Larry Holmes said the same thing.
He realized, why am I training an hour and a half for a 30-minute fight?
bryan callen
Right.
brendan schaub
True.
And that just comes with experience.
bryan callen
They say that about Roger Federer.
The top tennis players do not practice more than two hours a day.
brendan schaub
Yeah, it's tennis.
joe rogan
Two hours a day is a long fucking time.
brendan schaub
It's tennis, and we're just talking about some serious shit.
bryan callen
Tennis is a bad motherfucking sport.
brendan schaub
Relax.
joe rogan
Nobody's clanging shins off your head.
bryan callen
They play four or five hours, bro.
brendan schaub
I don't give a fuck if they play for 24 hours.
bryan callen
Well, you need to learn tennis, or I'll serve a ball in your fucking face.
brendan schaub
And I'm talking about fucking tennis, bro.
Oh, man.
He hit the ball for two hours.
joe rogan
Here's the best comparison.
brendan schaub
If he doesn't show up, nothing happens.
joe rogan
Take a guy who weighs about the same that I do, and who runs an ultra-marathon.
He runs 100 miles.
Give him a month off, and I'll fucking strangle him.
He doesn't have a chance.
He has no chance.
You know why?
Because it's not a marathon.
If you lock up with me, you don't know what you're doing, I'm going to choke the shit out of you.
See, a marathon is nonsense.
You're just running.
No one's kicking you.
No one's throwing rocks at you.
bryan callen
But tennis is a different story.
joe rogan
It's nonsense!
bryan callen
Oh, you're out of here, Ma.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
It's difficult.
bryan callen
The ignorance in this room, ladies and gentlemen.
joe rogan
Get the fuck out.
brendan schaub
Get the fuck out.
bryan callen
You fucking make me get out.
brendan schaub
I will make you get out.
bryan callen
You see my fucking...
joe rogan
Give me some volume to drown out.
bryan callen
You see my fucking wheel kick.
I'm going to flip out right now.
brendan schaub
Wow.
bryan callen
I wish the listeners could watch me play tennis.
joe rogan
Whoa, he's the underdog.
brendan schaub
Huge underdog.
unidentified
Jesus.
brendan schaub
In MMA, a plus 355 is huge.
bryan callen
What does that mean?
How do they come to that number?
brendan schaub
If you put $100 on him...
bryan callen
Right.
brendan schaub
You know what I'm saying?
He's basically a 3-1 underdog.
bryan callen
Almost 4-1.
joe rogan
That is fucking interesting.
That's an interesting fucking underdog there.
bryan callen
Who makes those odds?
What experts are doing that?
Who is doing that?
joe rogan
I don't know.
aubrey marcus
Someone sets an initial line and then the betting...
unidentified
Whoa!
joe rogan
He's minus 450. That's insane.
He's a heavier favorite.
unidentified
I disagree.
aubrey marcus
Look at that tattoo.
Of course he's minus 450. What is that?
It's terrifying.
bryan callen
I think it's a J.R. Tolkien or something.
He's probably his favorite author.
Hello!
joe rogan
That's my favorite referee ever.
bryan callen
Who's Gary Copeland?
joe rogan
Gary Copeland.
Gary Copeland is as wide as he is tall, and he's not very tall.
bryan callen
He's fantastic.
He is fantastic.
joe rogan
How about Chrissy?
Hi, Chrissy.
bryan callen
She's a good girl.
aubrey marcus
By the way, Brian, if you ever want to play tennis.
brendan schaub
Did you say she's a good girl?
Why'd you get creepy?
bryan callen
Oh, but you play tennis?
joe rogan
Yeah, I'll fuck you up.
bryan callen
A gentleman in the room!
joe rogan
A gentleman in the room!
He'll make you quit playing tennis or table tennis.
bryan callen
Aubrey is an athlete.
I felt his back.
He's got a valley for a back.
I appreciate it.
joe rogan
Let's see.
Crookshank and...
brendan schaub
Oh!
joe rogan
Crookshank tagged Coke with the right hand.
brendan schaub
Double, Valley, Tudo shorts.
joe rogan
Crookshine coming off of that victory is very, very hyped.
brendan schaub
Dude, the way he mixes things up is insane.
You just can't train for it.
The kicks, the angles, his hands are low.
Dude, he's trying to make him pay with every kick.
That's what you gotta do with a kicker, man.
aubrey marcus
If you and Coke go into bar, Brandon Shaw, who gets the girl?
joe rogan
Well, the Mike Rios.
bryan callen
Shaw does.
He's a good looking dude.
joe rogan
His fight versus...
He's too small.
Shaw's a giant.
His fight versus Mike Rios.
brendan schaub
Not to mention big dude.
joe rogan
You gotta understand, when you see a girl like...
unidentified
He's just small.
joe rogan
When a girl's around Shaw, you just gotta get her away.
He's on fire.
I gotta run.
bryan callen
It's true.
joe rogan
Hungry eyes.
It's fucking...
It's Ariel.
bryan callen
I disappear.
When I'm standing next to him, I disappear.
I look like a cup of coffee.
I could be a candle.
It doesn't matter.
brendan schaub
I just tell girls Brian has AIDS. He might have AIDS. I look like I do when I'm next to you.
joe rogan
He wouldn't get tested if he did.
bryan callen
I'm all gaunt.
joe rogan
By the way.
bryan callen
Definitely not.
brendan schaub
Would be the last guy on earth that gets tested.
bryan callen
Definitely not.
brendan schaub
I'm like, bro, do you think you have AIDS? Nah, man, I feel fine.
joe rogan
Whatever else he has.
bryan callen
I just say he fights, I play tennis.
joe rogan
Whatever else he has is duking it out with the AIDS. And he's happy to just be a battleground.
bryan callen
Just a huge cock lock.
joe rogan
His body's a battleground.
Darren with a big kick to the body.
You know, it's interesting, like I said, because when I was at Rufus Sport, Crookshank was training there.
When they had the UFC in Milwaukee...
That fucking southpaw stance is always tricky, man.
brendan schaub
Southpaws are tricky, man.
joe rogan
They are tricky, but they're opened up for right hands and high kicks, too.
brendan schaub
It's tough to deal with.
joe rogan
They're used to it more than you are.
brendan schaub
Correct.
joe rogan
Unless you train on a regular basis with a really good southpaw.
brendan schaub
Southpaws are tough, man.
Mitri Owen was a southpaw.
It's tough to find a high-level southpaw guy.
bryan callen
Oh, nice little snappy catch.
joe rogan
Yeah, that snappy right jab is a motherfucker, man.
brendan schaub
Straight rights are how you beat a southpaw.
joe rogan
But Crookshank, I was so impressed with him in that Mike Rio fight.
And I know Mike Rio is primarily a grappler.
So the difference between...
Ooh, nice inside leg kick.
I like how he set it up with the punches.
unidentified
He's got...
bryan callen
They both got crazy explosion.
unidentified
That's fast.
bryan callen
Because I like to compliment myself.
I keep myself going.
Because obviously I'm surrounded by enemies in this fucking area.
joe rogan
You're surrounded by people who do not appreciate tennis except for Aubrey.
bryan callen
Aubrey.
A gentleman.
joe rogan
Oh!
bryan callen
God, thank God you're here.
Thank God you're here.
unidentified
Fighting a bunch of barbarians.
joe rogan
Oh!
brendan schaub
Good shot.
joe rogan
Quick right hand by Crookshank.
Goddamn.
brendan schaub
Tell you what, whoever made these odds, man, are way off.
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
They need to educate themselves.
joe rogan
I get confused sometimes at some of the odds.
I mean, Aubrey has made a killing, allegedly.
aubrey marcus
If I was a betting man.
joe rogan
By some of the things that I... Sometimes, you know, he'll come to fights and I'll go, whatever you do, bet the fucking house.
unidentified
Oh!
brendan schaub
High kick!
unidentified
He's out!
brendan schaub
He's out!
He's out, bro.
bryan callen
I don't know.
brendan schaub
Yes, I do know.
He's just taking punishment, man.
joe rogan
Oh, he's hanging in there.
Gary is close to stopping this fight.
That's it!
brendan schaub
Oh, shit!
unidentified
Somebody made some money.
brendan schaub
Detroit superstar in the house!
joe rogan
Huge, huge victory.
And I would have told Aubrey...
brendan schaub
Watch this setup.
joe rogan
I would have told Aubrey, those odds are off.
Those odds are off.
brendan schaub
I texted my brother right before we got in.
He said, who should I bet on?
I said, Detroit superstar.
joe rogan
That's a big victory.
Who the fuck made him a 3.5 to 1 underdog and a 4.5 to 1 favorite for Coke?
brendan schaub
Some fuck who's used to doing NFL and NBA. I was like, oh yeah, I'll do UFC this weekend.
joe rogan
It's some guy who doesn't train.
That's all that is.
That's a guy who doesn't train.
Look at this.
Head kick.
brendan schaub
Watch this.
Boom!
joe rogan
Boom!
And by the way, Brian caught him with the foot.
Taekwondo's the right hand afterwards.
bryan callen
Damn right he did.
You and I know the difference.
You and I know the difference.
joe rogan
Gary stopped the fight because he got tired of being so low.
bryan callen
How about the elbows?
joe rogan
He was squatting.
He gassed out.
He was like, I gotta stop this fight.
brendan schaub
He's like, my quads are on fire.
joe rogan
My quads are on fire.
bryan callen
I'm on fire.
That's a thick-legged man.
joe rogan
Yeah, I would have stopped that fight.
I gotta be honest with you.
bryan callen
You wouldn't have?
joe rogan
No.
No, it wasn't enough.
I mean, he was definitely in trouble.
But look, when Crookshank's on top of him, he's dropping these shots, and every time he's dropping these shots, he's grabbing them.
Coke is trying to get up.
I mean, he's definitely tagging them, but I don't think I would have stopped that fight because I like to see a guy survive that kind of shit and come back, and I know that sometimes when guys burn themselves out trying to finish a fight, they could gas out.
brendan schaub
We just got ourselves a superstar.
bryan callen
Who here can do a backflip?
aubrey marcus
On a trampoline.
brendan schaub
On a trampoline.
joe rogan
I can't even do it on a trampoline.
bryan callen
I can't either.
joe rogan
I mean, I probably could if I took the time.
brendan schaub
You know, I did gymnastics forever because I used to hang out with GSP all the time.
He did gymnastics, so I was like, I want to be like him.
So I started doing gymnastics.
Then he went back to Montreal.
bryan callen
You're the worst body for gymnastics.
brendan schaub
Not really.
I got really good.
bryan callen
I'm sorry.
brendan schaub
I got really good.
joe rogan
He's just trying to criticize you.
Yeah, right?
bryan callen
He's so tall.
joe rogan
Shut down your control.
brendan schaub
No, no.
unidentified
It's tough.
joe rogan
You got the worst body for fucking...
bryan callen
You would get sensitive about me.
You would get sensitive about me saying you have a bad body for gymnastics, by the way.
unidentified
How?
Not really.
brendan schaub
Not really.
bryan callen
I'm 6'5", 250. I'm not really.
Yeah, you do.
You objectively do.
brendan schaub
I kept doing it, and then I was getting really tired from it, and it was hurting my knees.
I was like, why the fuck am I doing gymnastics right now?
joe rogan
Imagine if you tore your knee doing backflips and you have to fight.
brendan schaub
And there's 10-year-olds everywhere doing way cooler shit than me.
joe rogan
And they weigh 13 pounds.
brendan schaub
Yes, and I was like, you know what?
I should probably be in the gym rolling.
I'm at the fuck out of here.
I've never been back.
joe rogan
Good for you.
That's very smart.
No one ever won a fight by doing backflips.
bryan callen
No.
brendan schaub
That's the only reason I went, so I could do a backflip.
bryan callen
That'd be my nickname, Brian Backflip.
joe rogan
This fight is a fucking interesting fight.
There's a couple interesting fights on this card.
brendan schaub
Cormier, Dan?
joe rogan
Cormier and Henderson is very interesting.
But the thing about Cormier and Henderson is Henderson is off the TRT now.
TRT's been banned.
They shut that shit down.
brendan schaub
There's a couple guys who are like, ah, shit.
joe rogan
Vitor.
brendan schaub
Vitor put out a statement, I'm a beast without TRT. The Holy Spirit.
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, he said the Holy Spirit.
brendan schaub
He tweeted that out.
I'm a beast without TRT. Crucshall, ladies and gentlemen.
bryan callen
That's a heavy boss.
brendan schaub
You just got a new superstar, UFC. The Detroit superstar.
joe rogan
That's a big victory.
brendan schaub
That's a huge win, man.
joe rogan
Huge win.
Eric Koch was set to fight for the title.
Remember that?
He was supposed to fight Aldo for the title.
bryan callen
Damn.
That's a big...
brendan schaub
God, I hate seeing guys lose.
joe rogan
Well, I do, but I like seeing guys win at the same time, and one of them has to happen for the other to happen, and I'm a big fan of Crookshank.
brendan schaub
Me too.
I'm a really big fan.
bryan callen
Alright, let's calm down.
joe rogan
This guy takes a lot of heat.
John Anik, he takes a lot of fucking shit online.
Why?
Because he's a fucking commentator.
He takes shit.
bryan callen
You just do, right?
joe rogan
You don't.
I take plenty.
It just doesn't bother me.
brendan schaub
Joe has, what, six Gillian followers on Twitter?
You take some hits.
joe rogan
You take hits.
It's just...
Oh!
Look at that beautiful head kick.
Crookshanks on him.
But see, this is my point.
And I'm not saying it was a bad stoppage.
I'm just saying if I was standing over him...
brendan schaub
Let him fight through it.
joe rogan
I think I would have let him fight a little bit more because I don't think that any of these shots are putting him away.
brendan schaub
I agree.
joe rogan
He's not flatlining.
brendan schaub
I agree.
joe rogan
His head is off the mat and he's trying to figure out a way.
He's making the effort.
He's trying to figure out a way to get out of that scenario.
But when a guy's on top of you and a guy's blowing his wad like that, swarming, as a guy who's experienced a lot of fights, I think that you've got to let a guy try to fight out of the bottom position.
brendan schaub
Shane Carwin Lesnar.
unidentified
Yes!
joe rogan
Because the guy's head, he never laid back.
There's his dad.
I mean, his dad's a karate instructor.
Did he eat his kids?
bryan callen
Holy shit!
It might be Wheat Belly, guys.
It might be Wheat Belly.
brendan schaub
Is that the inventor of CrossFit?
joe rogan
No, he ate the inventor of CrossFit.
That's insane.
Do you think that he'd pull his dad aside and go, Dad, come on, we're going to go walking today.
brendan schaub
Walking?
Dad, how...
joe rogan
Ooh, earlier fight.
This must be a good fight.
brendan schaub
Justin Salas, Neil Magny, teammate.
joe rogan
Versus Ben Wall.
I did not see this fight, so it must be an exciting fight.
brendan schaub
Can I spoil it for everyone?
joe rogan
No, please don't.
brendan schaub
I'm just kidding.
bryan callen
Don't you dare.
joe rogan
I was working out because I have a gym at the house, by the way, gentlemen.
He does.
You have a cage.
Yeah, I keep lions in it.
bryan callen
Dude.
I keep lions in it.
joe rogan
I like to work out while I'm watching fights.
It makes me scared.
bryan callen
Who is that mafia guy who would bring you down to the basement to see the lion if you wanted to fight with you?
I think it was...
Fuck, do you know?
You follow this stuff.
joe rogan
No.
bryan callen
There was a mafia guy who kept a lion downstairs.
And the informant was talking.
He goes, well, if we had a problem, we'd take him down to see the lion.
That's all.
It was all we needed for the guy to comply.
And they just had this huge male lion down there.
joe rogan
I would imagine that's the last way you'd want to die.
Well, the Uday and Husay, whatever, Husay, Saddam Hussein's kids used to feed people to dogs, to Rottweilers.
They would not feed the dogs for days, and then they would throw people to the dogs.
Including, like, women that they raped.
They would rape women on their wedding day, they would find them on their wedding day, steal them away from their groom, rape them, and then feed them to dogs.
aubrey marcus
Where was William Wallace when that shit was happening?
bryan callen
The biggest assholes on the planet.
The biggest assholes.
joe rogan
They were complete, total social paths.
bryan callen
If there's a hell, I hope they're just fucking in the hottest.
joe rogan
I hope they come back as snails.
For the rest of time, I hope little kids step on them.
They come back as snails.
brendan schaub
And just keep coming back as snails getting stepped on.
joe rogan
Splat.
unidentified
Splat.
joe rogan
We get run over by cars, splat, and they live, but they're in agony for like 20 hours.
aubrey marcus
Just snails.
bryan callen
Uday and Kuse, snails.
joe rogan
Come back is another snail.
Crows eat them.
aubrey marcus
Snails on the salt glass.
joe rogan
Stomp, stomp.
unidentified
Stomp.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Impressive beard by this man.
joe rogan
Only impressive because he bothered to grow it.
brendan schaub
True.
joe rogan
At this point in time, I'm a little tired of those beards.
I gotta be honest with you.
brendan schaub
You know what?
It's getting a little old, right?
Everyone's doing it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Says the guy who can't grow one.
Says the guy who can't grow one.
joe rogan
It's a sign that you need a little bit of attention.
I can grow one.
bryan callen
I would agree.
joe rogan
I think it's a sign.
bryan callen
My beard.
I dyed my beard, do you know?
Look at how fucking dark it is.
brendan schaub
If you have a big dick, you don't have a beard.
bryan callen
I have a rich darkness to my beard.
I do.
joe rogan
If you have a big dick, you don't need a big beard.
brendan schaub
Nah, man.
joe rogan
But if you have a big dick and a big beard, it's like, whoa, I didn't see that coming.
brendan schaub
True.
unidentified
You look like a monster with a tail.
joe rogan
You have a big dick and a big beard.
You're a multifaceted motherfucker.
Do you write your own poetry, too?
What's your Twitter account like?
A lot of retweets?
aubrey marcus
If you got a huge beard, do you trim your pubic bush or do you just let it go wild?
joe rogan
It depends on the kind of chicks you date.
brendan schaub
Usually if you're growing a beard like that, you kind of don't give a shit and you have that 70s bush.
bryan callen
I take it all down, guys, just so you know.
I got a number three razor.
I take it down.
I keep it tight.
joe rogan
I used to date a chick who didn't like it.
Oh!
Big left hand.
Oh, that's it.
Same guy.
Stops the fight.
That was a very good stoppage.
bryan callen
Oh boy.
Easy don't.
joe rogan
He was thinking about flipping, but he's like, I think my legs are cast.
bryan callen
Is that the Eiffel Tower on his back turned upside down?
unidentified
No, no.
bryan callen
I think it's a caduceus.
It's a what?
joe rogan
Caduceus.
It's originally the DNA helix from Sumer.
bryan callen
Really?
joe rogan
What is it?
unidentified
It's just a shitty tattoo, I think it is.
joe rogan
I don't know.
What is it?
What is it on his back?
I don't know.
aubrey marcus
Come on.
unidentified
Luke Cadillo in this corner, former 155. Hey, guys, during the break, just so you know, if you like comedy, I'll be the Edmonton comic strip.
joe rogan
Are you going back there again?
Were you just there a week ago?
bryan callen
No, no, no.
joe rogan
I was there.
unidentified
Straight left.
Boom.
brendan schaub
Straight left, yeah.
joe rogan
When are you going there?
bryan callen
I'll be there this Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday.
joe rogan
How long ago were you just there?
You were there recently.
bryan callen
No, I haven't been there for over a year.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
I'm confused.
bryan callen
I can't wait for Vancouver.
joe rogan
Oh, we're going to have a good time.
bryan callen
Oh, dude, I'm psyched!
joe rogan
We're going to Vancouver on June 13th, and we're in Lloyd Minster on June 12th.
UFC 174. Yes, and Callum will be there.
bryan callen
I can't wait.
brendan schaub
I will also be there.
bryan callen
I'm excited.
I'm shooting my one-hour special soon.
joe rogan
I'm shooting my special in Colorado.
Confirmed.
bryan callen
You know what I love about Joe Rogan?
joe rogan
August 22nd and 23rd at the Comedy Works in Denver.
bryan callen
Here's what I love about Joe Rogan.
Joe Rogan would probably open for me for my one hour special.
joe rogan
Ask me.
Let me know.
I'll do it.
bryan callen
Alright.
I'm done.
joe rogan
I'd be happy to.
bryan callen
I'd love you.
joe rogan
I'd be happy to introduce you.
bryan callen
I want you to do that.
joe rogan
Let me know.
If I get the week off, I'm fucking there.
You know me, brother.
bryan callen
My favorite thing is listening to you laugh in the audience while I'm doing my stand-up.
joe rogan
When we worked together in D.C. at the Improv.
bryan callen
Oh, the greatest.
I could hear you cackling the whole...
That's like when your friend is...
You end up just doing stand-up for your friend.
joe rogan
I think that's Artemis Prime or whatever the fuck it is.
bryan callen
He's got a bandana.
joe rogan
What are those things called?
brendan schaub
Transformers.
joe rogan
I think he's got a Transformer on his back.
You know Marky Marks in the new Transformer movie?
brendan schaub
Yeah, I can't wait.
joe rogan
Who told him to be in that movie?
bryan callen
Who told him to be in that movie?
joe rogan
It's like someone offering you John Olive Inamo.
I need a manager.
Oh, shit.
You want to be in the Transformer movie?
Unless you want to fuck Megan Fox, I would say no.
You want to be in a trailer right next to her?
No, our trailers butted up next to each other.
Her door can't open unless mine is open.
Take the hinges off mine.
Fuse our doors together.
I want to know if she's showering.
Do you need a towel?
Do you need a massage?
bryan callen
Do you need a towel?
joe rogan
She's not even in those movies, right?
brendan schaub
No, right?
Yeah.
joe rogan
She had a problem with the director.
brendan schaub
You know what she is in, though?
The new Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle movie.
bryan callen
Yeah, it was actually...
brendan schaub
Hey, that's exactly what I want.
As a kid, I loved Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
Let's make them realistic.
Said no one.
joe rogan
Wait a minute.
Was she in that movie?
No, fuck.
Was she in that movie?
Is that the same guy who directed it that has a problem with the gay guys?
No, it's not.
That's the other guy.
brendan schaub
Michael Bay did Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
joe rogan
The Bryan Singer is the one who's having a problem with gay guys coming out and saying that he fucked them.
I got a message for all you little twinks that fucked Bryan Singer and now you're running your yap.
Listen, you knew the fucking deal.
When you get into a pool and there's 500 other twinks in there and you're all on ecstasy, shut the fuck up!
bryan callen
Exactly.
joe rogan
Okay?
The guy hooked you up.
unidentified
Yeah!
joe rogan
He brought you to the party.
He didn't have to bring you to the party.
bryan callen
He's a straight guy who fucked you.
Take it easy.
joe rogan
There's not a shortage of...
He's not a straight guy.
bryan callen
Oh, sorry.
joe rogan
He's gay.
There's not a shortage of twinks, okay?
bryan callen
Settle the fuck down.
Twink is a great...
joe rogan
Yeah, you're not allowed to use it anymore.
bryan callen
Would I be a twink in that game?
Well, I'm too old.
joe rogan
No, you're definitely not a twink.
brendan schaub
What's a twink?
joe rogan
Your guy buys twinks.
I had a long discussion.
aubrey marcus
You might be...
There's like different words.
You know there's like a bear, but there's like otters, and there's a whole...
joe rogan
Otters?
aubrey marcus
There's like a whole forest.
brendan schaub
All I know is bear.
aubrey marcus
There's a whole forest of animals.
brendan schaub
What am I? Why do all I know is bear?
bryan callen
Because you are a bear, bro, but you're not hairy.
brendan schaub
No, I'm not hairy enough.
A twinker's like a little...
bryan callen
A pink, like a soft, smooth, like a...
Like a young boy.
aubrey marcus
You might actually be an otter.
unidentified
An otter likes bears though, I think.
bryan callen
Have you seen what I'm working with under the shirt at all?
joe rogan
Take your shirt off.
aubrey marcus
You might be a muscle otter then.
joe rogan
An otter.
aubrey marcus
A muscle otter.
brendan schaub
What's the definition of an otter?
aubrey marcus
Look at that, muscle otter.
brendan schaub
No, Brian's a chicken head in the gay community.
bryan callen
Are you kidding me?
Look at the fucking...
What is it?
Is that a four-pack?
joe rogan
I almost can see your abs.
bryan callen
Hey, bro, that's a fucking...
joe rogan
The light was right, you were oiled up.
brendan schaub
Dude, I'm not mad at it.
bryan callen
You can't be mad at that.
brendan schaub
No, for being 54, you look good.
joe rogan
Hey, bro!
unidentified
What the fuck?
joe rogan
Easy with the numbers, man!
brendan schaub
You and Donald Sterling just doing the damn thing.
joe rogan
I'll tell you, there's a lot of people that saw Donald Sterling with that chick, and they ignored the racism and went, there's hope.
brendan schaub
There's hope.
joe rogan
If that 81-year-old guy can fuck that 20-something-year-old chick, there's hope.
brendan schaub
There's hope.
If I get $20 billion in owning the Clippers, there's hope.
bryan callen
He's got a body on him.
He played pro football.
joe rogan
Forget about all that.
Look at Adam Sandler doing another movie with Drew Barrymore and expecting someone to watch that.
brendan schaub
You know what?
You know who watches them?
joe rogan
Who's involved in funding?
brendan schaub
You know who watches those bullshit movies?
aubrey marcus
Who?
unidentified
This guy!
joe rogan
Do you love those movies?
bryan callen
Brendan Schaub loves them.
joe rogan
I love Happy Madison.
brendan schaub
I don't like intense stuff, yeah, so I watch that bullshit.
joe rogan
You don't like intense stuff when you're preparing for a fight?
brendan schaub
In general, because my job's so intense, I watch bullshit.
joe rogan
Oh, I see.
brendan schaub
Like, last night I went and saw that movie Neighbors.
joe rogan
Oh, I would see that movie, too.
brendan schaub
It was good.
joe rogan
I love Seth Rogen.
I love all of his movies.
brendan schaub
So funny, man.
joe rogan
Did you see This is the End?
brendan schaub
Oh, yeah.
bryan callen
Funny, right?
joe rogan
Funny fucking movie, man.
unidentified
It was.
joe rogan
It was a good movie.
How about Craig Anthony?
Funny fucking movie, man.
brendan schaub
So funny.
bryan callen
So Neighbors was good.
How many stars?
joe rogan
Craig Robinson was great in that fucking movie.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he was.
bryan callen
He's funny as shit.
joe rogan
With his towel.
He has a towel at every scene.
He's sweating.
brendan schaub
Sweating.
bryan callen
Which is, you know, true.
joe rogan
Oh my God.
He's great.
Seth Rogen and Franco.
brendan schaub
Seth Rogen, Neighbors.
I give that movie an entertainment...
A four out of five.
unidentified
You know what?
brendan schaub
It's not going to win any awards.
You don't go there to learn something.
You just go to be entertained.
joe rogan
I love how James Franco dodged that 18-year-old bullet.
bryan callen
I love the way you say Franco and not Franco.
joe rogan
I say Franco because that's what he said.
bryan callen
I like how James Franco...
joe rogan
He was trying to bang some 17-year-old.
unidentified
Yeah.
bryan callen
Was he?
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
It was great.
joe rogan
But he didn't bang her, so it was pretty like...
Do you know the whole story?
bryan callen
Wait, I don't know.
brendan schaub
She blew the spot on him, right?
joe rogan
Ah, the fucking cunt!
She should be boycotted for life, by the way.
But him, what he did was pretty creepy.
bryan callen
No doubt.
What happened?
joe rogan
He was on Instagram with some chick.
She was 17. He was like, when do you turn 18?
I'm like, come meet me.
You know, and she like printed all, took all the tweets that he sent her or whatever it was.
Snapchats.
Yeah.
There's something creepy about that, man.
We know it's 617 and you're fucking James Franco.
The deal is you're supposed to back off and go, okay.
bryan callen
Please stop saying Franco.
joe rogan
You're supposed to say, okay, it's not like I'm in the desert and I have to fuck my kids and eat my neighbors.
brendan schaub
Don't you have a Rolodex of 50...
unidentified
Hot bitches who are over 18. You gotta try something different.
joe rogan
The problem is there's some dudes that are attracted to innocent.
They have a real thing with teenage angst.
brendan schaub
There has to be a better way to go than Instagram.
bryan callen
I like a woman in her 30s who's been through two divorces with a sex swing.
unidentified
Really?
bryan callen
Scotch on her breath.
Yeah, I like an older one.
joe rogan
You like a chick with cigarettes in her purse.
bryan callen
Yeah, it's disappointment.
joe rogan
Like a chick who gets a text from a guy and goes...
Fuck you!
And then throws the phone in the toilet.
brendan schaub
And has weather originals in her bag.
bryan callen
And kind of bad skin.
I don't like all that beautiful skin.
joe rogan
Well, you like a girl who is in love with you.
bryan callen
Whatever, Joe.
I don't want to talk to you.
joe rogan
You don't like a girl who sees Brendan Schaub and is like, I can get that guy.
You like a girl who knows she can't get Brendan Schaub because Brendan Schaub is out busy with something superior.
bryan callen
I like a little broken wing.
I like a broken wing.
Always have.
And you used to always be like, why are you with that?
I was like, I like it.
unidentified
Shut up.
bryan callen
A little broken.
I'd be like, come on, whatever.
I like her.
joe rogan
It's like, what are you doing?
I don't know.
bryan callen
I'm drawn to it, man.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bryan callen
I like a little roughness.
joe rogan
You used to want them to fall in love with you, too, which is always odd to me.
bryan callen
Well, I don't know about that.
I just like making a connection, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, but you weren't a guy who was really honest about what was going on.
I looked off.
He was like, hey, we both know what's happening here, right?
Right?
And they're like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, you weren't that guy.
You were the guy that was like, I just...
We have a connection.
unidentified
I fall in love in the moment.
bryan callen
There's no question.
brendan schaub
I'm the same way as Callan.
joe rogan
I don't know if you fall in love.
I don't know if you fall in love.
I think you want them to fall in love so that you can feel good about it.
brendan schaub
Your wife, when you asked her, you knew she was the one when you met her?
Did she get pregnant?
joe rogan
Listen, here's the reality.
There is no perfect person.
Not me, not you, not anyone.
When you enter into a relationship, it's really all a matter of Where are you in your life?
What are you deciding?
What decisions do you make as far as how you proceed?
And I've had friends that are like, hey man, I'm thinking about getting married.
I'm like, stop.
Stop what you're doing right now and understand what you're doing.
Because a marriage, all it is, is a legal contract with the state.
If you're going to have kids and you want to have kids, marriage is all good.
But I didn't get married until I had kids.
And on this move, I'm going to have a pickle break right now.
I need some pickles.
bryan callen
There you go.
joe rogan
I want too much wine.
bryan callen
I want a pickle.
joe rogan
Grab me a pickle.
brendan schaub
Like a legit pickle?
joe rogan
Yes!
bryan callen
Pickles, man.
joe rogan
And just so anybody understands, there's nothing wrong with getting married.
There's nothing wrong with having kids.
There's nothing wrong with all those things.
brendan schaub
It just has to be the right time.
joe rogan
You've got to know the right person, too.
It's got to be the right fucking...
It's got to be the right scenario.
bryan callen
Yes.
joe rogan
Pickles.
brendan schaub
Pickles up!
aubrey marcus
So when are we playing tennis, Brian?
bryan callen
I'd love to.
Do that for real.
Are you around tomorrow?
We can do it tomorrow.
aubrey marcus
Yeah, I think we're doing a podcast here tomorrow.
bryan callen
How about Monday?
aubrey marcus
Yeah, possibly.
bryan callen
Do you play a lot?
unidentified
A bit.
bryan callen
I love it.
Yeah, I'm obsessed with tennis.
Right on.
Boxing and tennis now.
brendan schaub
I mean, pretty different.
bryan callen
Hey, bro.
brendan schaub
Could you please get tougher?
Could you do something?
Could you eat beef jerky or something?
bryan callen
Listen, I am tough.
I mean, not really.
brendan schaub
You're one of the toughest comedians.
bryan callen
Yeah, not bad.
joe rogan
He's definitely in the top thousand.
bryan callen
I'm not tough, but if my friend's in a fight, I'm not going to stand around.
I'm going to help you out.
joe rogan
These are mustard pickles.
I've never had these.
bryan callen
Strange mustard pickles?
joe rogan
This Grillo's Pickles Company sends me these pickles.
They're fresh pickles from Boston.
And they're fucking amazing.
brendan schaub
I'm pretty excited about a pickle.
I haven't had a pickle in a grip.
unidentified
Yeah, I wouldn't mind getting down on that.
joe rogan
You can get in on that.
Everybody can get in on that.
brendan schaub
I got enough pickles for everybody.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
bryan callen
It's going to sound like a pickle commercial here.
Will Sasso, my buddy, is fucking good, man.
unidentified
Hold on.
joe rogan
I brought some Sam Adams up in there.
brendan schaub
I'll tell you what, everybody.
The perfect storm to shit your pants again.
Mustard pickles and about a gallon of bulletproof coffee I've had.
bryan callen
This is good.
joe rogan
I've never had this before.
aubrey marcus
Yeah, that is good.
It's unusual.
unidentified
By the way, people are complaining on Twitter because I'm eating into a microphone.
joe rogan
Go fuck your mother.
bryan callen
Okay?
joe rogan
That's what I have to say to you.
Go fuck your mother.
If you're listening to this, and you're like, your fucking podcast sucked because I heard you chewing.
brendan schaub
Fuck you.
aubrey marcus
All kinds of people just went out to go get pickles, right?
Everyone is hearing the crunch.
joe rogan
Grillo'spickles.com.
And a lot of you are like, what's so good about pickles?
Most pickles.
brendan schaub
Ooh, there's the James Franco thing, huh?
unidentified
Let me see.
brendan schaub
Do they have a picture of this girl?
joe rogan
It's a hoax?
jamie vernon
He's got a movie coming out.
The trailer came out the same day that story broke.
brendan schaub
That's not a hoax.
Hoax that I'm trolling for teenage girls?
jamie vernon
His movie is he plays a coach that gets involved with one of his players who's a 17-year-old girl.
brendan schaub
It's the worst PR move ever.
Because guess what?
None of us knew that.
Now we think he's just a psycho.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I don't know about that, but I'm looking at this Godzilla commercial.
My dick's heart is a rock.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Very excited about this Godzilla commercial.
bryan callen
You think it'll be a good movie?
brendan schaub
You know what?
Not excited about it, man.
joe rogan
That's because you're not into intense shit.
See, me?
I'm not worried about fighting Andrzej Orlovski because I don't have to.
So I'm watching Godzilla and I'm getting fucking pumped.
brendan schaub
The other Godzilla was some bullshit with Matthew Broderick.
joe rogan
What's there, Godzilla commercial or Ronda Rousey right after it?
brendan schaub
For me, I'd say Godzilla.
aubrey marcus
I'd say Ronda.
Because Godzilla's definitely going to kick your ass.
You know it going in, so fuck it.
Oh well.
Try again on the next incarnation.
Ronda, you feel like you might have a chance.
That's what fucks you up.
bryan callen
I don't think I have a chance.
I'm under no illusion she choked me out on Instagram.
Guys, follow me on Instagram.
joe rogan
The funny thing that you did on Instagram, you do have a really interesting thing that you're doing where you do the angel and the devil.
That's fucking hilarious.
That's really funny, man.
It's really original, too, man.
bryan callen
Good.
I got more to come.
unidentified
Well, I fucking hope so.
joe rogan
Brian's doing this thing where he has a cell phone on one side and an iPad on the other, so he has two things talking to him at the same time.
bryan callen
That is me.
joe rogan
Are you doing that when you're on the road, you're bored?
brendan schaub
And isn't one like, hey, fuck guys.
You're like, wait, what?
bryan callen
Yeah, the guy's like, fuck.
You have to watch it.
joe rogan
This is a broad who was in the same broad.
This is the girl who's in love with Wayne Newton.
Here it comes.
bryan callen
Here it comes.
joe rogan
Who's scary?
brendan schaub
Wayne Newton's excited.
unidentified
Look at that.
joe rogan
Wayne Newton's way scarier.
unidentified
Wolf.
bryan callen
How does he not know?
brendan schaub
Buzz's girlfriend.
unidentified
Wolf.
joe rogan
He doesn't know for the same reason why bodybuilders don't know they look ridiculous or anorexics don't know they look ridiculous.
bryan callen
Lack of self-awareness.
joe rogan
Oh, the Nas guy gets a fucking...
Did they run out of people to sponsor the UFC? Do they not have a guy in the office that does quality control?
It goes, enough with the fucking spinning Nas guy.
brendan schaub
Bro, real quick, let's talk about bodybuilding.
Could there be a gayer sport?
joe rogan
It's guys getting big for guys.
aubrey marcus
I actually had a friend who was competing in this girl, competing in one of those.
I went to the first time ever.
brendan schaub
Guys on guys, right?
unidentified
It was the craziest, scariest thing I've ever seen in my life.
joe rogan
Wait a minute.
brendan schaub
Rats on racks on racks.
Guys, guys, guys.
bryan callen
Look at Philippou's muscularity.
joe rogan
He's ridiculous.
You know, it's interesting.
Costa Philippou left Ray Longo's camp, you know, because he's 185 pounds most likely.
Weidman's 185. They might have to fight.
I don't know what all the drama was.
Do you?
Do you know anything?
brendan schaub
Carry on.
joe rogan
But since then, he's not looked as good.
brendan schaub
He's lost his last two against Luke Rockhold and Francis Carmo.
On my last fight with Mitch Rohn, UFC 165, me and him shared a locker room.
I'm not making this up.
This guy did maybe half a jumping jack and went out and fought.
No warm up.
Zero.
Look at him.
Not a sweat.
He does not warm up.
He didn't hit mitts.
He didn't do anything.
He did kind of this half-ass jumping jack.
He goes, let's roll.
unidentified
And here I am, sweating my ass off in the back.
bryan callen
Getting ready.
joe rogan
All right.
Look at this fight, because he's fighting Lorenz Larkin.
And my take on this is that Larkin is like a really multifaceted striker.
Throws a lot of kicks, knees, elbows.
unidentified
Very tricky.
joe rogan
I've trained with him.
brendan schaub
Very tricky.
joe rogan
But Philippou is almost exclusively a boxer.
He's like a sprawl boxer type character.
brendan schaub
And he's been getting taken down a lot lately.
That's why he's been losing his fights.
joe rogan
Well, Carmon really kind of tricked him.
I don't think he ever saw that coming.
brendan schaub
He should have, though.
unidentified
Because Carmon, he's a running double.
brendan schaub
The difference is, Philippou has crazy knockout power.
Larkin's really not known for his knockout power.
unidentified
Does he though?
bryan callen
Does Philippou have crazy knockout power?
joe rogan
He does.
He does, man.
bryan callen
Who is he knocked out?
Who's the last guy he knocked out though?
It's been a while.
brendan schaub
Did you see this fight with Jared Hammond?
bryan callen
Uh-uh.
brendan schaub
Oh man, talk about brain damage.
bryan callen
Really?
brendan schaub
Not fun to watch.
joe rogan
Ugh.
These are my new favorite pickles.
brendan schaub
I can't get enough of these pickles.
I don't feel good.
I'm a little light-headed, but I'm eating the shit out of these pickles.
It might be the Bulletproof Coffee.
joe rogan
It's not.
She's pickles with the fucking muscle.
brendan schaub
It's the perfect storm to shit your pants.
30 seconds, people.
joe rogan
I blocked five guys who complained about me chewing pickles.
bryan callen
By the way, are we allowed to ask?
I know you guys don't make predictions, but if you had to put your money on the Silva-Brown fight, can I get a call?
joe rogan
Which fight?
bryan callen
On the Silva Brown fight.
brendan schaub
On the main event?
You want to wait for the main event?
joe rogan
Yeah, no.
I like Matt Brown.
I don't like the fact that Eric Silva's a big, he's two to one.
brendan schaub
Who makes these odds?
bryan callen
Crazy odds.
brendan schaub
What the fuck are we doing?
joe rogan
Matt Brown's a savage.
brendan schaub
Matt Brown's won four fights in a row, all knockouts.
Eric Silva's, he wins one, loses one.
I think he's won seven.
joe rogan
I think he's won seven fights in a row.
brendan schaub
He has it.
joe rogan
Has it?
brendan schaub
No, it's four.
unidentified
Four?
joe rogan
Whatever it is, I'm always impressed with him.
brendan schaub
You might be right on seven.
Maybe it's four knockouts in a row.
joe rogan
I'm not unimpressed with Eric Silva.
I think Eric Silva's a fucking beast.
brendan schaub
I think Matt Brown's fought tougher guys.
joe rogan
But Dong Young Kim knocked him out.
And that makes me...
Not that Dong Young Kim's not an animal.
He is.
Here, one, two, three, four...
Five, six.
brendan schaub
Seven?
joe rogan
Six in a row.
brendan schaub
Four knockouts in a row, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, his last loss was since he caught him in a guillotine.
bryan callen
By the way.
unidentified
Oh!
bryan callen
Uh-oh.
You just got tagged.
joe rogan
Philippou's tired of losing, man.
brendan schaub
He was ranked, what, 6 at one point?
He was up there, man.
joe rogan
He's a beast.
brendan schaub
He's so strong.
His legs...
bryan callen
I would imagine he is strong.
brendan schaub
His legs are insane.
Look at his calves.
bryan callen
They ain't giving those muscles away in a Cracker Jacket box.
You know what I'm saying, folks?
You know what I'm saying?
That'd be me as a...
The kid's Greek!
He's got a goatee!
He's bald!
joe rogan
Good leg kick by Larkin there.
And Larkin used to fight 205, right?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
You know, Larkin has a win over Robbie Lawler.
Did you know that?
joe rogan
And he looked good in that fight.
He looked good in that Robbie Lawler fight.
unidentified
He did, man.
joe rogan
He's really clean as far as his technique.
brendan schaub
You know what?
In Strikeforce, he was a killer.
I think the UFC was a...
I don't want to say a big jump, but it's different.
Strikeforce and UFC are different.
He's stumbled a little bit in the UFC so far.
bryan callen
Larkin seems very composed.
brendan schaub
He just hasn't gotten comfortable, I'd say.
aubrey marcus
That haircut's freaking me out.
I don't get it.
bryan callen
Kid in play kind of thing going on?
unidentified
I don't know.
bryan callen
Bringing the 80s back?
joe rogan
What about Vitor's haircut?
aubrey marcus
I'm a fan.
bryan callen
I am too.
I like him in cornrows and I like him in...
joe rogan
You ever seen Vitor's wife?
aubrey marcus
He can flex his face and make it stand on him.
brendan schaub
What?
bryan callen
She's a beautiful woman.
Yeah!
brendan schaub
He brought me and Nate Markart to train with him.
His wife came in.
I was like, huh?
I'll eat a spinning back kick to the face.
aubrey marcus
He's a fucking Brazilian hero.
brendan schaub
If I can stare at her, I will eat a spinning back kick to the face.
bryan callen
And, uh...
unidentified
Ooh!
joe rogan
She's a classic Brazilian hot chick.
brendan schaub
Dude.
joe rogan
Oh, Larkin and his fucking...
brendan schaub
And their kids?
joe rogan
Casa Filibu are thrown down.
bryan callen
He's got beautiful kids, right?
brendan schaub
They look like X-Men, all of them.
bryan callen
Yep.
Beautiful children.
joe rogan
Both of these guys have their back up against the wall.
Oh!
Big kick by Larkin.
See, that's the difference between Larkin is the kicking technique.
I mean, Philippou threw a kick but missed.
But Larkin is real clean.
brendan schaub
Philippou's going to counter one of these kicks with a big right hand.
unidentified
Ooh.
Maybe.
joe rogan
It's funny how these...
brendan schaub
Arkins is a little more active than this.
joe rogan
These kicks start changing what becomes a trend.
Now everybody's throwing those oblique kicks to the thighs.
brendan schaub
It's a copycat league.
I'm telling you, man.
That front kick Anderson does, now everyone does it.
joe rogan
Everyone does it.
Wheel kicks, everyone does it.
brendan schaub
Wheel kicks, that's the cool thing.
Superman punch was the thing like a denim jacket about two months ago.
joe rogan
I'm waiting for body shots with body punches to be like...
brendan schaub
You know you're fighting a high-level striker if he's going to the body.
If he's comfortable going to the body...
Oh!
joe rogan
Big right hand by Phillip Booth.
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
Marken's coming back.
aubrey marcus
You're right.
He countered one of those kicks.
brendan schaub
Hey, who am I? We got ourselves a fight here.
bryan callen
I wanted to say that.
You took it out of our own.
joe rogan
Oh, we tagged him.
bryan callen
Taking the wind out of my sails, ladies and gentlemen.
brendan schaub
These guys are sweating.
joe rogan
Where is Costa Phillip's training now?
bryan callen
These guys are strong.
joe rogan
Is he still training on Long Island?
brendan schaub
Yeah, he's still on the East Coast, I know that.
And his manager is Lex McMahon, one of the best in the business.
bryan callen
Does Phillip look at calf implants?
joe rogan
Is there anybody that would ever fight with an implant?
Can you imagine?
brendan schaub
There's girls that fight with breast implants.
That's the number one implant for guys is calves.
bryan callen
Weird.
brendan schaub
You think they'd have a dick implant by now?
bryan callen
They do.
brendan schaub
How do you know?
bryan callen
I don't want to talk about it.
aubrey marcus
In Africa, they sow rocks in there sometimes.
joe rogan
Say what?
bryan callen
In the entire continent?
joe rogan
Oh!
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
Larkin went down!
Philippou!
Holy shit!
brendan schaub
Huge win for Philippou.
unidentified
Yeah, buddy.
joe rogan
Holy shit.
aubrey marcus
Yeah, sometimes.
I don't know why.
brendan schaub
I might have another pickle on that.
bryan callen
Dude, Philippou, he is jacked.
brendan schaub
He is sweating, Brian.
bryan callen
He's jacked.
joe rogan
Wow.
That was a big win.
bryan callen
Huge win.
Phillip has got some muscle, huh guys?
brendan schaub
He lost his last two, man.
He needed that one.
aubrey marcus
Yeah, do or die in that one.
joe rogan
And not only that, I think he might have been the first guy to ever stop Lorenz Larkin in Strikeforce or the UFC. Look at him.
He's fucking wobbled, man.
brendan schaub
A lot of power.
Ryan, remember when I said a lot of power when you're talking shit?
unidentified
Boom!
brendan schaub
Look at this.
unidentified
Boom!
joe rogan
Boom!
Oh, clean right hand.
Look how short that right hand is.
Folks at home, when you watch how short he threw that punch.
brendan schaub
That's called power.
That's called power.
joe rogan
It's not just power, it's technique because he didn't wind up and pull it way back before he launched it.
And that's why it landed in the first place.
That's what people gotta understand.
Donk!
Oh, beautiful.
brendan schaub
It's high level boxing.
joe rogan
That was a beautiful right hand.
brendan schaub
There's your knockdown.
joe rogan
Bam!
Hard left hook.
And here's a right hand.
unidentified
Cod...
Donk!
joe rogan
Oh, look at that lump that occurred underneath his ear.
What is that?
That's not even a bone.
brendan schaub
So you know how Joe Silva, you'll see him in the ring when he congratulates guys?
joe rogan
What does he say to you?
brendan schaub
Well, if he's unhappy with your fight, he doesn't come in the ring, even if you win.
If he's happy, he comes in and says, like, great job.
joe rogan
Does he ever say anything weird to you?
unidentified
No.
brendan schaub
Something like, you're my idol.
I was like, come on, that's too much.
joe rogan
No, really?
bryan callen
Never.
unidentified
Come on, hell yeah.
joe rogan
You're doing a Brian Callen.
bryan callen
Just a liar.
joe rogan
Is your cock as big as I hope?
brendan schaub
My LeVar Johnson fight, when I just kept taking him down, people were booing me, I was like, oh, where's Joe?
I won my fight.
Where is it, big buddy?
Went in the back, he just walked right past him.
I was like...
joe rogan
Yeah, but that's what you gotta do when you're fighting LeVar Johnson.
That guy's ridiculous.
brendan schaub
What?
I went on the scale and I turned to my coach and I was like, I think he's on steroids.
And we're like, nah, you're the same size.
I was like, I look like him?
They're like, yeah.
I'm like, oh, fuck yeah, alright.
I was in the hotel taking selfies.
joe rogan
Blasting the chicks.
brendan schaub
And then after the fight, my coach was like, good lord, that guy was way bigger and way better than him.
He's like, we just wanted to say that so you weren't so scared.
And he tested positive for steroids.
unidentified
Steroids!
joe rogan
That is fucking hilarious.
We're apparently behind live tea by 15 seconds.
We're behind live TV. I got in a clinch with him.
Fast forward.
brendan schaub
I got in a clinch with him.
I was like, this is not Snowflake.
This is not Snowflake.
joe rogan
Oh, the internet is behind by 15 seconds?
bryan callen
It's just ridiculously strong.
joe rogan
So folks, if you're watching this and you're like, you're behind, it's because of the internet.
So back your fucking TiVo up by 15 seconds.
And by the way, if you don't have TiVo, go fuck your mother, alright?
bryan callen
Go fuck your mother.
joe rogan
Fucking people who have to watch.
I was at a friend's house, they don't even have a DVR. I'm like, why not use candles?
To light your house.
Why not live in the goddamn stoning?
brendan schaub
How about you send me a message by a pigeon?
Write something down and send it over.
joe rogan
Staying with a good friend and their family, my family, friends, and I saw that they had the channel where Glory was on.
They had Spike.
I was like, oh, perfect.
I'll just watch it on the DVR. I'm like, what is this?
Where's your fucking DVR? I tried to pause their TV. I can't pause their TV. What the fuck is happening?
What am I, living in a different time?
Do you guys have steam-powered machines?
bryan callen
Look, Phillip was interviewing himself.
joe rogan
That's not true.
bryan callen
They look a lot alike.
joe rogan
They don't look anything alike.
bryan callen
For the joke, they do.
joe rogan
They do.
What is the shirt they're wearing?
T with a backwards R. It's a torte.
brendan schaub
It's a torte shirt.
joe rogan
Don't do it.
Whoever made that shirt, stop.
bryan callen
Yeah, I was going to say, it doesn't really...
unidentified
Stop.
bryan callen
Kind of confusing.
brendan schaub
If you want to get your name out there, don't spell it like that.
joe rogan
That's not the way.
Well, that's going to confuse the fuck out of people.
brendan schaub
I'm confused right now.
joe rogan
Costa Phillip is a good guy, man.
I'm happy for him.
brendan schaub
Me too.
Listen, I've lost two in a row.
That third fight is so stressful, it's not even funny.
Because guess what?
You lose, you're going back to freaking dancing, shaking your ass for guys.
unidentified
Wait, what?
joe rogan
Wait, what?
brendan schaub
There goes my boner again.
You're back at Starbucks.
joe rogan
Why are my balls so sweaty?
brendan schaub
If you're at a high level and you lose two in a row and you're getting paid decent, that third one you better win otherwise you're getting your pink slip.
He was under a lot of pressure.
aubrey marcus
Is that like a hard rule or is that just kind of informal?
brendan schaub
Depends on the guy.
Depends why you're getting paid.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a weird thing.
If you have a good contract, there's certain guys that come in and they're highly touted and they lose a couple of fights in a row.
brendan schaub
You're making 400 Gs and you lose two in a row, UFC's like, huh?
What are we doing?
joe rogan
But if they're fun fights, if it's an exciting fight and you're fighting top-level guys, oh, look at that fucking right hand.
bryan callen
Jesus, that's beautiful.
brendan schaub
Tell you what, losing two fights, that third fight, most stressful fight of my career.
bryan callen
How long has Phillip been in the UFC? A long time.
joe rogan
Quite a while.
That's a beautiful combination.
That left hook right hand.
That short right hand.
bryan callen
That's why I told you he's a fucking knocker artist, bro.
joe rogan
That right hand.
brendan schaub
Get out of here.
bryan callen
What did I say?
What happened?
joe rogan
The Fighter and the Kid podcast.
Available censored on Fox.
bryan callen
Not anymore.
brendan schaub
No, they're not censors anymore.
unidentified
They're not censoring anymore.
joe rogan
Oh, they must have listened to me.
brendan schaub
There it is.
bryan callen
That's right.
joe rogan
Telling them you're going to leave.
Allowing, fucking offering you guys to come over to higherprimate.com for free.
bryan callen
We got Travis Barker, right?
brendan schaub
Travis Barker on Wednesday.
joe rogan
Oh, that's cool.
bryan callen
Yeah.
He's a big fight fan, huh?
joe rogan
Yeah, he is.
brendan schaub
He knows a lot about fighting, yeah.
joe rogan
Seems like a good dude, too.
brendan schaub
You know what, man?
He's one of the nicest people I've ever met.
He's so nice.
You know when you meet someone that's so nice, you think they want something from you?
Like, what do you want?
See my dick or something?
unidentified
What are we doing?
brendan schaub
Like, what do you want to ride in my car?
joe rogan
I like how that's your first option.
You must want to see my dick.
Why is he so friendly?
bryan callen
I know what you mean.
brendan schaub
When they're so nice, I'm like, yeah, cool, man.
Just start taking my clothes off.
I don't know what's going on, bro.
It's like they want something.
bryan callen
I guess this is what you want.
brendan schaub
I'm not used to it.
He's genuinely nice.
joe rogan
When he was on Punk'd, too.
He was on Punk'd with Ahmed Ahmed.
Ahmed Ahmed was talking crazy shit to him in a restaurant.
And he was like, come on, motherfucker.
Let's go outside.
He's a rock star.
He's ready to drag someone outside and fight with him.
brendan schaub
Bro, that dude's cardio is insane.
aubrey marcus
Really?
brendan schaub
In the gym, he does like 12 rounds in a row.
unidentified
Really?
brendan schaub
Just mitts, moving.
Insane.
unidentified
Well, you think about what it takes to do drums.
bryan callen
That's all he does.
brendan schaub
Talking about the best drummer in the world.
joe rogan
Drums are a lot of cardio, man.
bryan callen
Hey, hey, hey.
Hey, bro.
Calm down about the best drummer in the world, but I understand.
brendan schaub
Who's the best drummer?
For sure, Parker.
For sure.
bryan callen
Sure, calm down with that comment.
brendan schaub
Who's the best?
bryan callen
Don't know because I'm not a drummer expert, but I'd imagine fucking Neil Pertz got something to say.
joe rogan
Who's Neil Pertz?
bryan callen
Neil Pertz, the drummer for Rush?
Holy shit.
I believe this fucking podcast.
brendan schaub
He's 85 and has a gray bush and his nuts hang down on the drums.
We're talking about current guys.
bryan callen
Neil Pertz is probably the best.
I'll tell you what.
Google best drummers.
joe rogan
I just did.
Best drummer in the world.
bryan callen
Thank you.
joe rogan
Okay.
Neil Peart?
Yeah.
According to you, fuck you, James.
bryan callen
Hey, hey, bro.
Watch the F word on this podcast.
joe rogan
You don't get to say.
There's a lot of people that believe in different things.
brendan schaub
Josh Barker is definitely one of the best of all time.
bryan callen
You're out of your fucking mind.
brendan schaub
Brian, watch your P's and Q's.
bryan callen
You need to understand that you're out of your mind, and I've had about enough.
brendan schaub
It's hard to take you serious.
bryan callen
And the fact that you don't give tennis, it's true.
joe rogan
Neil Peart from Rush is on this, what I just looked up.
John Bonham from Led Zeppelin is number two.
bryan callen
Damn right he is.
joe rogan
Chad Smith from Red Hot Chili Peppers is number three.
You know, when they say still alive, it's like, is Ali the greatest boxer still alive?
Because I'm pretty sure that...
Vladimir Klitschko would fuck him up right now.
brendan schaub
I'm pretty sure Brian would fuck him up right now.
I'm talking about current drummers.
Travis Brown still looks pretty good.
joe rogan
Look at Pert's fucking drum set.
Look at that.
bryan callen
Yeah, he doesn't fuck around.
Any more questions, Brendan Schaub, who doesn't know anything about drumming?
I take drum lessons.
brendan schaub
I know Travis Barker's the best.
bryan callen
I take drum lessons.
brendan schaub
Brian, you're 57. You don't know who 182 is.
You have no idea.
bryan callen
I've never heard of that band.
aubrey marcus
Travis Barker can drum upside down, I'm pretty sure.
brendan schaub
Yes.
bryan callen
Travis Barker's a bad motherfucker.
brendan schaub
I will slap you right now.
joe rogan
Phil Collins is in here.
Joey Jordan, a lot of people think.
bryan callen
Who is he from?
What's he from?
joe rogan
Do we have any younger ones?
Slipknot, Korn, and Rob Zombie.
He's another one that folks consider to be number one.
Whatever.
bryan callen
I believe the guy from the Allman Brothers, Greg Allman, who is it who played the drums?
joe rogan
He doesn't play the drums.
brendan schaub
I believe Hall and Oates might be the best.
Hall and Oates.
There's only two of them.
bryan callen
I believe Hall and Oates.
By the way, I'll tell you who's a better looking guy than Big Brown, Brennan Schaub, and that would be Mr. Silva.
joe rogan
Eric Silva?
bryan callen
Oh yeah.
Good looking dude.
He's got a crow wing.
brendan schaub
He's got a crow wing.
bryan callen
Fucking crow wing.
Crow wing for a hair.
joe rogan
I am looking forward to this fight.
The only thing that I can hope is that this fight goes five fucking rounds.
bryan callen
He's got beautiful hair.
Really?
brendan schaub
I don't want it to be a quick one.
One, because I can't get enough pickles.
unidentified
I feel sick.
aubrey marcus
If I was a betting man, I would have bet over on this fight.
I'm just saying.
joe rogan
I just can't believe Eric Silva.
aubrey marcus
Over one and a half.
joe rogan
I can't believe Eric Silva is the fucking...
aubrey marcus
Over one and a half minus 150. People, if you're out there and you can make a bet, it's going to go past one and a half.
It's minus 150 to go over one and a half.
joe rogan
That's how much you get for that?
aubrey marcus
It's minus 150, so you have to give away a little bit, but still, I think there's a pretty good chance it's going over one and a half.
joe rogan
That's a great bet.
I would tell you to bet the fucking farm on that.
brendan schaub
Man!
bryan callen
Brendan, did you train with Michael Bisbing?
brendan schaub
Yes, I did.
On Tuesday.
joe rogan
How's his eye?
brendan schaub
Good.
joe rogan
Okay.
aubrey marcus
Your voice was two octaves too high.
joe rogan
Folks at home are not going to get to...
unidentified
That was a weird pause because he went, good, good.
brendan schaub
Yeah, it seemed good.
We were sparring.
He was going hard with a heavyweight.
I'll tell you what, it was our warm-up round.
He came at me like a banshee.
joe rogan
Are we showing video here, Jamie?
bryan callen
By the way, here's a trivia question.
What is a banshee?
Don't look it up yet.
What's a banshee?
unidentified
Ah!
brendan schaub
A banshee.
joe rogan
What's a banshee?
aubrey marcus
It's an avenging spirit.
bryan callen
Not bad.
What's a banshee?
brendan schaub
It's a very upset spirit.
bryan callen
Fucking liar.
joe rogan
Some shit that screams.
It doesn't exist.
brendan schaub
Yeah, it's a banshee.
joe rogan
Hey, bro.
What do I give a fuck?
bryan callen
There's a definition for what a banshee is.
joe rogan
What's a unicorn?
It's some shit that little kids believe is real.
bryan callen
A banshee, I believe, and I think is an Irish fairy.
joe rogan
Susie and the banshee.
bryan callen
An Irish fairy of mischief.
Please look it up.
brendan schaub
Why?
joe rogan
Are you trying to, like, gain brownie points from the oxalic acid debacle of an hour ago?
bryan callen
Sorry I read.
brendan schaub
Sorry you know the stupidest facts of all time.
bryan callen
Oxalic acid.
brendan schaub
Why don't you go make me some fucking juice?
bryan callen
Hey, bro.
joe rogan
Yeah, Brian, that's the toxins.
bryan callen
I had no comeback.
I went, hey, bro, and I had no comeback.
joe rogan
What about the toxins?
The other toxins that you were going to lift?
bryan callen
The toxins in fucking leafy greens will kill you.
What are those?
brendan schaub
I feel great.
bryan callen
I feel great.
You want to know them?
I'll tell you what they are.
They're oxy...
Fucking chlorine.
joe rogan
Arsenic.
aubrey marcus
Oxycodone.
bryan callen
Cut farts.
joe rogan
What's wrong with you, really?
What is wrong with you?
bryan callen
I'm a liar!
I say things for attention.
I don't like looking things up because it's a bore.
joe rogan
Who are you?
bryan callen
I just work on instinct, you fuck.
brendan schaub
It's hard to believe.
When did Brian just drop all this stuff?
You stop doing combat sports.
You stop juicing.
You play tennis.
bryan callen
I never juiced in my life, but I will.
aubrey marcus
I'll start.
brendan schaub
You play tennis.
joe rogan
You don't drink juice?
bryan callen
Oh, juicing.
I thought you meant juicing.
joe rogan
Press juice.
I drink, I have pressed juices delivered to my house every day.
brendan schaub
That's gangster.
bryan callen
God, it's so good.
Wait, you were right.
A fairy, a banshee's a fairy woman who begins to wail if someone is about to die.
joe rogan
Don't fuck with my boy Aubrey.
Just don't fuck with my boy Aubrey.
bryan callen
Aubrey's no joke, huh?
joe rogan
He doesn't say shit unless he knows what he's talking about.
He's very different from you in that respect.
bryan callen
No wonder.
joe rogan
If Aubrey doesn't know he's got this crazy thing he does, he goes, I don't know.
We should try it.
unidentified
I don't know.
bryan callen
That's a bore.
joe rogan
Just try it every now and then.
bryan callen
Ask me any question.
I'll give you an answer.
joe rogan
Don't be scared.
Try it every now and again.
bryan callen
If somebody has their hood open in their car, I'll come over and give an opinion.
I know nothing about car.
joe rogan
I literally will come over and go, find a wrench on the side of the road and pick it up and see if it fits.
bryan callen
You check the fucking carburetor?
joe rogan
Do you have distributor caps?
Distributor caps?
bryan callen
How's the AVAC valve on that?
joe rogan
This is a big fucking fight for Matt Brown and for Eric Silva.
Look at this.
Here's the rankings.
See, okay.
Matt Brown, rank number seven.
Eric Silva, not even on the fucking top ten.
And yet, they have him.
As a two-to-one favorite.
That's crazy.
bryan callen
By the way, what a fuck.
brendan schaub
That's how you know it's a newer sport.
bryan callen
Look at that field.
Look at how tough.
Look at that shit.
joe rogan
It's a crazy field.
bryan callen
Holy shit.
joe rogan
But that's also why, allegedly, Aubrey has made a shit-fucked ton of money.
brendan schaub
Yes, there you go.
joe rogan
On my advice.
aubrey marcus
Allegedly.
joe rogan
What is the percentage, allegedly?
Like 80%?
aubrey marcus
There's that one fight where allegedly we won 10 out of 11 on that card.
bryan callen
So you allegedly talked to Joe Rogan before you put money allegedly on fights and you're 10 for 11?
joe rogan
There's certain ones I go, bet the fucking farm on Tyron Woodley allegedly.
bryan callen
Allegedly, can you give me some of those tips?
joe rogan
Yeah, I will, but you won't bet.
You'll go, I talked to a buddy who used to be a Navy SEAL. He gave me contrary advice.
I wanted to make him happy, so I showed him my slips.
bryan callen
I showed him my slips.
brendan schaub
I have a friend.
joe rogan
Hey, let's hear this breakdown.
Oh, it's me.
How convenient.
This is a fucking great fight, man.
brendan schaub
Really good fight.
bryan callen
Well, I love just...
joe rogan
Matt Brown...
brendan schaub
Matt's been out for a little bit and hurt his back.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's what's...
I'm interested in this.
He not just hurt his back.
He fucking herniated discs where he had to pull out of a big fight.
He was supposed to fight Condit.
Huge fight for him.
And herniated discs are not something that heals up real quick, man.
You know, I know.
I had them.
It took me a long fucking time of a lot of different types of therapies to deal with my bulging disc that I had.
brendan schaub
You know what's weird is Matt Brown...
He came to Denver to train with us one time, and I was like, oh, this pace is going to be insane, watching him spar with Neil Magny.
Nope.
Nope.
It's a different, like, his octagon pace and his sparring pace is completely different.
joe rogan
Well, he probably was just putting in work.
You know, he's probably smart about that in that sense.
Was he with Beecher?
brendan schaub
Yes.
joe rogan
Mark Beecher?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
Beecher's a good dude, man.
brendan schaub
Yeah, a really good dude.
joe rogan
Beecher's the guy who turned me on into my tattoo artist.
brendan schaub
Oh, really?
Who's your tattoo artist?
joe rogan
Aaron Della Vadova from Guru Tattoo in San Diego.
Great fucking guy.
brendan schaub
Do you have to go down to San Diego?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
I go down to San Diego.
I talked to Beecher.
I was like, who did your fucking sleeve?
He's like, Aaron Della Vadova.
The guy's fucking awesome.
He gave me his number.
I called the guy.
The guy's cool as shit.
I saw his stuff online.
It was worth it for me to drive down.
brendan schaub
Do you have both just your arms?
joe rogan
Both guys are Aaron Della Vadova.
brendan schaub
And is your back and chest done too?
joe rogan
No, nothing's done.
brendan schaub
Just arms?
joe rogan
Yeah, both sleeves.
Both done by the same guy.
He's awesome.
brendan schaub
I want to get just one sleeve.
I don't know.
joe rogan
Yeah?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, I did too, but I had this idea to do this Miyamoto Musashi sleeve.
It was kind of important to me, so I said, fuck it.
bryan callen
Is that from...
joe rogan
Book of Five Rings?
bryan callen
I love that book.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Oh, look at Eric Silva slapping himself before Matt Brown does.
aubrey marcus
Their press poster for this fight was pretty fucking epic.
unidentified
Pretty intense.
aubrey marcus
Both of them just roaring.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
They're pretty intense dudes, man.
bryan callen
Fuck yeah, man.
aubrey marcus
It's like the young lion versus the established lion.
unidentified
It's pretty fucking cool.
bryan callen
How old is this kid?
He's a killer.
joe rogan
He's young.
I mean, I don't think he's older than 25. I think he is.
Is he older?
brendan schaub
I want to say he's like 27 or 28. Okay, let's pull it up.
joe rogan
Eric Silva...
brendan schaub
I feel like Kim and Bieber were separated at birth.
One went to Brazil and became a fighter.
unidentified
Yeah, you're right.
joe rogan
He's actually 29. 29, yeah.
bryan callen
Wow!
joe rogan
I guess I'm probably basing it on how old he was when he first started in the UFC. He looks 21. He looks 21. Yeah, I kind of forget the guy's age.
They enter the UFC. There's Valigi.
Look at him.
brendan schaub
Scream!
bryan callen
Oh, look at him!
joe rogan
I scream for you, my friend!
bryan callen
Ishmael?
His last name is Ishmael.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Ishmael.
joe rogan
Valigi.
bryan callen
That guy, he rides one of those little crotch rockets and he takes himself.
joe rogan
Does he?
bryan callen
Oh yeah.
joe rogan
He does?
bryan callen
He's a serious dude.
brendan schaub
Some in golds.
joe rogan
Out here?
brendan schaub
Yep.
bryan callen
Yeah, he used to work out and goes all the time.
brendan schaub
No, he's still there.
joe rogan
He's a great guy.
brendan schaub
I saw him the other day.
joe rogan
Great guy.
Original Carlson Gracie black belt.
bryan callen
Yes, he is.
joe rogan
Choked Hoist Gracie unconscious in Rio on the beach.
unidentified
Yep.
joe rogan
That was a great fucking match.
bryan callen
I think he beat Hensou, didn't he?
Didn't he beat Hensou as well?
In a jiu-jitsu match?
joe rogan
You might be right.
bryan callen
Yep.
joe rogan
You might be right.
bryan callen
I believe he did.
He's a serious...
joe rogan
Yeah, he's a tank.
That was back when there was the rivalry.
The Carlson Gracie rivalry with Elio's kids.
The Elio side.
There's all these rivalries.
brendan schaub
It's crazy.
joe rogan
It's crazy.
brendan schaub
Within a family.
joe rogan
Even in the family.
Hoist criticizes Henner and Heron for doing the Gracie University.
I don't get that criticism, man.
I really don't.
A lot of guys think that you can't have jiu-jitsu instructions online.
Of course you can.
Is it as good as being there in person?
No, it's not.
Is it still good?
Yes, it is.
brendan schaub
Still makes jiu-jitsu available to a lot of people who can't get to the gym.
joe rogan
I have a buddy who lives in Kentucky, man.
He lives in the middle of fucking nowhere.
And him and his buddies, they watch videos and they practice together.
And that's all he has.
He's like two hours away from anything.
bryan callen
You can get better that way.
You can simply get better that way.
joe rogan
But that's how Rich Franklin learned.
bryan callen
There you go.
joe rogan
A lot of guys learned like that, man.
bryan callen
So did Boss Ritten, man.
joe rogan
So did Boss Ritten, man.
bryan callen
Boss Ritten said he, in the beginning, was kind of self-taught.
joe rogan
Well, he definitely learned a lot of grappling that way.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
Not striking.
joe rogan
He's also just a gorilla.
brendan schaub
He is.
bryan callen
Boss.
How about when he was doing, like, just demonstrating shit for us?
Like, I was just like...
joe rogan
He's getting Regenikine done at the same place where I get mine done.
brendan schaub
On his arm?
joe rogan
On his neck.
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
He's got a real problem, though.
For folks at home, man, here's the thing that my doctor told me.
Once you start getting numbness and then you start getting atrophy, if you don't catch that shit quick, you have a small window where your nerves have the possibility...
Did he just stumble there and slip?
brendan schaub
Yeah, he did.
bryan callen
It scares me.
joe rogan
Imagine if he ripped his fucking knee right there.
Fuck.
brendan schaub
And then played it off.
joe rogan
You have a small window when you lose muscle and size.
When you start atrophying, it's only a couple of months, he said.
And in those couple of months, if you don't get surgery or you don't get something that reduces the pressure on the nerves, those nerves can die off.
And then you never get them back.
unidentified
Jeez.
brendan schaub
And there's nothing he can do?
joe rogan
He said it never comes back 100%.
Never.
Because Bas Rudin was telling me, you know, he was trying all these different things to get his nerves back, but it's a long fucking time.
It's been years.
He's got this massive atrophy on his right arm.
Like, Bas had neck problems all the way back to the Teyoshi Kosaka fight when he won the UFC heavyweight title.
Couldn't wrestle training for that fight.
Same shit as Karwin.
Had, like, serious neck injuries.
And couldn't fucking wrestle.
And so then, I think he was Sons of Anarchy he was doing stunts for, and he fell on his head, and spiked on his neck, serious fucking pain, herniated disc in the neck, atrophy of the nerves, like the whole deal.
But Boss is just such an animal.
He's like one of those guys that if he gets injured, he just sucks it up and keeps working out.
brendan schaub
He's one of the original fighters who was a freak athlete, I feel like.
Just picked up things so fast.
joe rogan
He was one of the best strikers in the early days of MMA. Nasty striker.
bryan callen
One of the best strikers.
How would Boss do now?
Who are the old guys?
unidentified
Stupid to ask.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can't ask like that because it's so evolved.
It's evolved completely different.
bryan callen
Yeah, it's evolved.
aubrey marcus
I try to do the boss route and jumping double kick on the trampoline all the time.
joe rogan
It's totally useless.
Unless you're in a movie.
aubrey marcus
Well, hence the trampoline.
joe rogan
And two dummies are running at you.
brendan schaub
I would imagine Matt Brown sets a super high pace.
Being in his hometown, he's come out.
Pretty amped up.
joe rogan
Well, it's also a big question.
How much time has he had to fix that back?
brendan schaub
You've got to remember, this is five rounds.
So that pace, there's no way you can do it for five rounds.
You just can't.
joe rogan
I don't know what his injury was like, but I know that Matt Serra, when he came back from herniating a disc in his back and he fought GSP, he was really not the same.
He was really not the same.
Most guys, when they injure a disc in their back, your back is a lot like your knee, which is a lot like your brain.
That's the good analogy.
A guy doesn't understand what a brain injury is like.
When you get KO'd, and then you get KO'd again easily, It's just like tweaking a knee and you rip a ligament and you get it fixed, but then your knee is always kind of sore.
When you hurt your back though, it's so different because it's connecting your nerves to all your muscles.
Is there anything worse?
brendan schaub
A back injury?
joe rogan
I don't think so.
Because I've never seen any, except I guess a brain trauma, but I've never seen anything as far as a mixed martial arts related injury that can just end it.
brendan schaub
Back or neck?
joe rogan
Yeah, back or neck and end it.
And your arms shrivel.
Your legs shrivel.
I have a friend, and he had two back surgeries, and for whatever reason, it didn't take, and his leg is, he has one leg that's shriveled.
Like, his right calf is like a bone.
And he's super self-conscious about it.
He wears sweatpants, he won't wear shorts, and he's all fucked up about it.
He's hoping it comes back, but the reality is, if it's more than a certain amount of time, it ain't coming back.
bryan callen
Yeah, it's tough.
joe rogan
So if you're out there and you got any sort of an injury, fucking don't tough it out.
Deal with it.
Deal with it immediately.
unidentified
Go get it fixed.
aubrey marcus
Look into some prolo, too.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah.
Prolo therapy.
Prolo with ozone.
bryan callen
I had prolo therapy on my neck and it worked for me.
joe rogan
No, you didn't.
bryan callen
Yes, I did.
brendan schaub
You had a neck problem, man?
joe rogan
Yeah.
No neck problem.
bryan callen
I'm chewing jiu-jitsu.
joe rogan
He's showering.
bryan callen
I really did have prolotherapy, and they shot it in my neck.
They shoot, I think, a saline solution in your neck.
joe rogan
Sugar.
Whatever it is, whatever it is, and it worked.
brendan schaub
That brown's intense.
bryan callen
Oh, boy.
brendan schaub
Nose to nose.
bryan callen
By the way, exactly the same height.
About to kiss.
Good stuff.
There you go.
joe rogan
Doesn't matter.
Doesn't matter.
bryan callen
No.
joe rogan
You know what's interesting about Matt Brown?
Like, he doesn't move that fluidly.
Like, if you looked at the way he moves and strikes and everything like that, you wouldn't, like, there's certain guys, you look at them, like, perfect example, Hector Lombard.
You look at a move and you go, oh, fucking Christ.
brendan schaub
Oh, see this pace?
Look at this pace.
joe rogan
No, yeah, just super.
brendan schaub
Look at this pace.
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
Oh, head kick!
brendan schaub
He gets in guys' fucking faces.
joe rogan
Maybe.
With his back, he might just let him take him down.
Boom!
bryan callen
Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy.
joe rogan
Rolls him over on top.
brendan schaub
This is what I'm talking about.
unidentified
Head kick.
brendan schaub
This is what I'm talking about.
High pace, charged up home crowd.
joe rogan
Body kick.
unidentified
It's tough, man.
joe rogan
Brown breaks motherfuckers, too.
brendan schaub
He does.
Ooh, good body kick.
joe rogan
But he's also, like, eating shots and comes back.
He's not a frontrunner, man.
unidentified
Oh, no!
joe rogan
Big liver kick!
bryan callen
Oh, no.
joe rogan
He's fucking hurt, man.
He's hurt.
brendan schaub
Don't stop it.
He's not knocked out.
joe rogan
Oh, he's...
brendan schaub
He's going to survive.
joe rogan
He'll survive.
But look at this.
Eric Silva's got his back.
He's got to work that defense.
But you know, if you can get a hold of a glove, this is a good little break right here.
brendan schaub
Two on one.
If you get two on one, you're pretty safe.
This is just a neck crank here.
joe rogan
How about zero on one?
Why doesn't he turn into the choke?
Turn towards his right.
He doesn't have body triangle either.
He might be taking a little break.
aubrey marcus
How long does it take to recover from a kick like that?
brendan schaub
Bro, a tight body kick, you're in trouble for a while.
joe rogan
Depends entirely on how hard you get kicked.
Jordan Meehan dropped him with a fucking body shot.
He hit him with a vicious body punch.
brendan schaub
Now he's got two on one.
joe rogan
Now he's trying to get to the right of it.
brendan schaub
This is great back control.
joe rogan
Sort of, but he's got his legs crossed.
If Matt Brown steps over that, he could at least make his legs uncomfortable.
He doesn't have his legs crossed again.
But then when Hickson choked out Funaki, he had his legs crossed too.
But Hickson ain't worried about that shit.
bryan callen
Come on.
Oh, he's got it deep now.
joe rogan
Shit!
brendan schaub
Nope.
joe rogan
Oh, boy.
brendan schaub
It's just a neck crank.
Oh, if it fits under the shoulder.
What's he doing?
joe rogan
Oh, man.
That is a neck fucking crank.
brendan schaub
What is he doing?
It's not under the neck.
It's not under the chin.
There you go.
unidentified
Two on one.
brendan schaub
Two on one for the love of God.
Defend your...
aubrey marcus
It's such a weird thing to allegedly bet on the over in a fight.
joe rogan
He's got a full body triangle, but he's not rolling towards the triangle side.
bryan callen
Why is he not doing that?
joe rogan
Now he's doing a good thing.
I've seen a guy tap once from an arm bar from that position.
He got two on one on a guy's arm and then extended it.
Against his neck.
bryan callen
That's exhausting for him though right now, right?
joe rogan
For Eric Silver or for Matt Brown?
bryan callen
No, for Matt Brown.
joe rogan
Yeah, but Matt Brown likes being exhausted.
brendan schaub
Not too bad.
bryan callen
Does he?
Jesus, he's tough.
brendan schaub
He's tough.
bryan callen
Fuck, he's tough.
brendan schaub
Yep, they're UFC fighters.
Pretty tough.
bryan callen
Hey, you calm down back there.
What's your name again?
joe rogan
Oh, he fucked up though.
He trapped his right arm.
brendan schaub
That's dirty.
joe rogan
He fucked up.
brendan schaub
Now he's going to take that other hand out.
He's fine.
joe rogan
You've got it back.
bryan callen
Bro, this is very nerve-wracking.
We got two minutes left.
joe rogan
But you know what?
Matt Brown, he relishes these kind of fights, man.
brendan schaub
He wants this gritty fight.
joe rogan
This is a lot of exertion.
bryan callen
He's gritty as shit.
joe rogan
But Eric Silva tried several times to exert a lot of energy to try to finish him.
Trapped arm again.
Trapped arm again.
brendan schaub
You see how his heel is blocking his arm from coming in?
He's out.
He's out.
joe rogan
He's up.
bryan callen
Oh, boy.
Holy shit.
joe rogan
Here comes the knees, son.
Oh, there goes one to the body.
brendan schaub
That body shot was great.
joe rogan
And there's an elbow.
Another knee to the body.
And this is like the thing.
Eric Silva, he...
bryan callen
My God, Matt Brown is rough.
Matt Brown is rough!
joe rogan
Oh, he's coming.
unidentified
No!
joe rogan
Coming on, man.
bryan callen
What is going on?
joe rogan
Eric Silva's in trouble.
All that exertion.
And this is a kid that wilted against John Fitch.
Same sort of scenario.
bryan callen
Matt Brown does not stop coming.
brendan schaub
This pace is insane.
bryan callen
God, Brian, keep making comments like this.
joe rogan
He forces guys into war.
Holy shit, he's tough.
Oh, man.
bryan callen
Sorry, I can't help it.
I'm excited.
joe rogan
Boy, these guys sweat a lot.
bryan callen
Guys, these guys are all muscle.
There's no fat on them.
joe rogan
A minute and 20 seconds in, man.
bryan callen
All bullshit aside, this is crazy.
joe rogan
This is a great fight.
bryan callen
This is crazy.
brendan schaub
The crowd is going nuts.
unidentified
Fuck, he's rugged.
bryan callen
He's rugged.
brendan schaub
This is exactly what Matt Brown wants.
bryan callen
Matt, keep your hands up, Matt.
Keep your hands up, please.
joe rogan
Shut the fuck up.
bryan callen
Keep his hands up.
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
Oh, Eric Silva's in trouble, man.
unidentified
Oh, no.
brendan schaub
Beautiful trip.
Eric Silva's exhausted.
bryan callen
Punch him.
joe rogan
Oh, good block of that knee.
bryan callen
Are you kidding me?
joe rogan
Oh, took one to the head.
Elbow.
brendan schaub
Matt's about to break him, I feel like.
joe rogan
45 fucking seconds is a long time when you're getting beat on.
Boom!
I love that throw.
That's Muay Thai, too.
That's that Muay Thai dump.
Oh man, he's all over this kid.
brendan schaub
He's exhausted, man.
bryan callen
Oh, what is he doing?
brendan schaub
He kicked him out of the ribs.
He was right in the ribs.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
Last thing I want to see is this fight fucking stopped on a DQ. Oh, dude.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Silva's exhausted.
Look at him.
He's walking away.
brendan schaub
Don't do that.
joe rogan
He can't even pick his legs up to kick.
bryan callen
Somebody's going out.
joe rogan
It's crazy.
Matt Brown.
bryan callen
Matt Brown.
That's crazy.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
bryan callen
That's crazy if you're a morale.
brendan schaub
Uppercut.
bryan callen
Uppercut.
joe rogan
He drags dudes into hell, man.
brendan schaub
I want to get to...
Oh!
Boom!
Wow!
joe rogan
Please let this fight keep going.
brendan schaub
Please let him keep going.
unidentified
Shit!
bryan callen
You guys didn't even bet on that.
joe rogan
Are you kidding me?
I didn't bet on that.
unidentified
Wow!
joe rogan
Did you bet this fight?
bryan callen
Dude, he won that rally.
brendan schaub
One and a half rounds.
unidentified
Holy shit!
joe rogan
Are you kidding?
brendan schaub
Damn, that was a crumb round!
bryan callen
You clearly give that round to Matt, right?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
100%.
bryan callen
Wow!
brendan schaub
That's not even close.
bryan callen
Goddamn!
Let me see the replays on that.
unidentified
Christ.
joe rogan
Wow, that was ridiculous.
No, this is a commercial for Bud Light.
With Arnold Schwarzenegger wearing a wig.
bryan callen
I've seen this commercial a thousand times.
brendan schaub
Matt came out like a banshee.
aubrey marcus
Looks like Arnold can play some ping pong, actually.
brendan schaub
He has a pair of legs on him.
bryan callen
You haven't seen me play ping pong?
aubrey marcus
It actually kind of looks like a ball.
bryan callen
On the map around a ping pong.
joe rogan
Has anybody suffered less from fucking their housekeeper and getting her pregnant than Arnold?
He went right into that to several giant movies.
unidentified
Suffered less.
bryan callen
I don't think I'm speaking out of turn.
Has everyone's career flourished?
I asked him about that and he goes, what did you do?
unidentified
And he goes, just laid low.
bryan callen
I swear to God, I go, what did you do when that happened?
Because he was going to do a movie where he has a Spanish lover and they said, look, you know, it's probably not a good idea.
And I go, what did you do with that?
He goes, I just laid low.
joe rogan
Yeah, he has a remarkable vision of what's going on.
He's kind of untouchable.
Here's the replay.
bryan callen
Oh my God!
joe rogan
And you see him tighten up.
Boom.
Brown is all over Silva.
That's the thing about Matt Brown.
You can't blow your wad on this motherfucker because he relishes.
brendan schaub
Look at this.
joe rogan
He relishes war.
brendan schaub
Look at this pace.
unidentified
Are you kidding me?
aubrey marcus
Two and a half minutes, boys.
brendan schaub
Come on.
aubrey marcus
You can make it.
brendan schaub
Matt Brown's fired up, son.
joe rogan
That's it?
A round and a half and you win the bet?
brendan schaub
I don't think your boy Silva's going to make it.
joe rogan
I don't think your boy Silva's going to make it.
Silva's getting fucking boxed up.
He's going to have to hurt Matt Brown.
I'm assuming the kids...
unidentified
Oh!
bryan callen
Another one!
joe rogan
Again with that kick!
brendan schaub
You need a takedown.
You need a takedown.
joe rogan
That's the same kick he fucked Sato up with, his last opponent.
brendan schaub
Both a little fatigued.
How could you not be?
joe rogan
Well, I mean, Matt Brown just ate another liver kick.
He throws that front kick to the liver.
Are you kidding me?
bryan callen
Oh, God!
joe rogan
This kid will drag you into fucking hell, man.
bryan callen
Take him down!
joe rogan
Short elbows, too.
Gotta love it.
He's got a really weird strength and conditioning program, too.
bryan callen
What does he do?
joe rogan
He'll do five-minute rounds, like holding a hundred-pound ball.
bryan callen
Can I get my fucking kettlebells, please?
aubrey marcus
You guys just gotta get the address.
bryan callen
Email me your address.
I got nothing right now.
I got nothing.
aubrey marcus
You can write it down on that yellow sheet.
joe rogan
You don't have any workout equipment at home?
bryan callen
I'm getting a Matt Brown tattoo, I'll tell you that much.
unidentified
Ha ha!
joe rogan
What would a Matt Brown tattoo be?
bryan callen
It's gonna cover my entire torso and my back.
joe rogan
Would it be him?
Oh, man.
brendan schaub
Oh, Jesus.
This dude is just eating shots.
joe rogan
Silva tried a trip, but he has nothing in him.
unidentified
Are you kidding me?
joe rogan
This could be it.
How much more time do you need Aubrey?
unidentified
I need a minute.
brendan schaub
I need a minute!
You need a takedown, bro.
joe rogan
I think the kid might last a minute.
I'm feeling that you might graze the head.
All that hair protection.
bryan callen
Oh my god!
joe rogan
He's all done.
There's no way this kid's lasting five minutes, I'll tell you that.
brendan schaub
I agree.
He's exhausted.
joe rogan
He's not going to win, and he's not going to last.
He's just not going to.
At this point...
brendan schaub
I hate when guys do that!
joe rogan
He's exhausted.
He's exhausted.
The only thing that's keeping him up right now is heart and will.
bryan callen
Does Silva have a huge weight cut?
joe rogan
Yes, he does.
Yes, he does.
bryan callen
He's a big guy.
joe rogan
I've seen him walk around outside the octagon in between fights, and I was like, Jesus.
brendan schaub
That left hand is nasty.
joe rogan
Very nasty.
aubrey marcus
25 seconds, boys.
joe rogan
You know, Matt Brown's only upper body workout he does for his arm.
Oh, he kicked him again!
The liver kick.
Matt Brown, he does dumbbell presses, and that's it.
bryan callen
By the way, Silva can take a...
unidentified
Oh!
He's hurt!
joe rogan
Matt Brown's hurt!
bryan callen
Oh my god.
His poor liver.
joe rogan
Incredible.
Well, he might have a broken rib.
I mean, if he's getting hurt that easy, beautiful takedown.
unidentified
In the side control, Aubrey wins, ladies and gentlemen!
joe rogan
Damn!
Mounted Crucifix, too.
brendan schaub
He better get energy or even stop the fight here.
Crucifix him.
Just keep that one in the face.
joe rogan
Well, I'll tell you what.
Matt Brown also has a very good fucking ground game, too.
A lot of people don't respect that ground game.
His ground game's nasty.
bryan callen
I gotta...
brendan schaub
If he can step over this...
unidentified
Oh, boy.
bryan callen
Oh, no, no, no.
Oh, my God.
aubrey marcus
Oh, man.
bryan callen
Oh, boy.
brendan schaub
You gotta attack the arm.
bryan callen
What do you call that move?
unidentified
What is that?
brendan schaub
The fucking inverted triangle.
bryan callen
Yeah, that's a bad position for...
unidentified
It's the wrong...
aubrey marcus
It's the other way, though, right?
bryan callen
That's hell for Silva.
brendan schaub
He needs to attack that hand.
bryan callen
How is Silva breathing right now?
brendan schaub
There he goes.
bryan callen
Uh-oh.
brendan schaub
He's...
joe rogan
This is a wild fucking fight, man.
This is what I love about Mad Brown fights.
They're wild.
You never see a boring...
He's done.
The kid's done.
He can't defend.
Look at his left arm.
It's like it's just floating around there.
He's not doing anything.
He's just hoping to get a break.
Oh, that's like a head and arm choke.
brendan schaub
It's almost like a darts from the mount.
Wow, he let go!
joe rogan
Oh my goodness, this is going to be it.
This kid's not getting out of the mount.
brendan schaub
He's really not landing anything, though.
joe rogan
Yeah, but Eric Silva doesn't have anything left.
You know, I love Herb Dean in these situations.
Because look how closely and calmly Herb Dean's looking at this.
He's not freaking out.
And I like how he took a knee so his legs don't burn out like the big guy.
Oh!
unidentified
He's out of Silva!
brendan schaub
Triangle!
bryan callen
Triangle!
Holy shit.
Matt Brown is something else.
joe rogan
He locked it up!
He locked up the triangle!
Silva's in trouble.
bryan callen
Hooks the leg.
joe rogan
He's attacking the arm too.
brendan schaub
He needs to keep attacking the arm.
joe rogan
Yeah, the arm is the shit.
But he also needs to hook that leg.
Keeping that leg is important.
Oh, he slipped out!
aubrey marcus
He's got slippery hair.
joe rogan
Oh, this is a fucking heart attack.
unidentified
Slippery hair.
brendan schaub
Another triumph is coming up.
joe rogan
Holy shit.
If you had bit the over for two rounds, you'd be having a goddamn heart attack right now.
bryan callen
Look at this.
joe rogan
Silva's on top.
bryan callen
What is going on?
brendan schaub
Matt Brown's going to get his back for the end of this round.
Nope.
joe rogan
20 seconds!
This fucking fight is incredible!
aubrey marcus
He just needs to attack the ground and pound the body.
joe rogan
I feel sorry for the people that are watching this online that are 15 seconds behind.
Because we're like, we're talking, meanwhile the fight could be over.
bryan callen
This is nuts.
joe rogan
Pause your DVR, you fucks.
Stay with us.
bryan callen
My 15 seconds.
brendan schaub
Talk about a main event, man.
You want to talk about being inspired?
What are we doing?
unidentified
I gotta go piss out of my dick, my huge dick.
joe rogan
Oh my god, this is incredible.
What a fucking fight.
bryan callen
So far, best fight I've ever seen.
joe rogan
Hey, so, Michael Bisping's eye.
Let's go back to this, because we're in between rounds.
It's good!
Is it alright?
Is it alright?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
Damn, dude.
You may be the worst actor of all time.
Don't ever try to go into acting after you're done fighting.
brendan schaub
When we're smart, he seemed good.
But it's weird.
joe rogan
It's like one of them's dark.
Yeah.
He's looking at me like, let's not talk about this.
Alright, I'll let this go.
If I asked him, he wouldn't tell me, you know?
What are you gonna do?
He's a tough motherfucker.
He's having problems, too.
He's got a weak arm.
brendan schaub
Really?
joe rogan
Same thing.
Yeah, pinched nerves.
Huron.
Your boy Huron?
brendan schaub
Huron, yeah.
joe rogan
Same issue.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I know.
Well, I rolled with Huron last week for the first time in about six months because he's had a neck issue.
joe rogan
Yeah.
How's he doing now?
Is he better?
aubrey marcus
Yeah, way better.
joe rogan
What did he do to get better?
brendan schaub
He saw some specialists in Beverly Hills.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah?
What'd the guy tell him?
brendan schaub
I'm not sure.
joe rogan
What a fucking fight this is so far.
aubrey marcus
I want to see that body shot.
joe rogan
Matt Brown, dig into the body.
brendan schaub
Dude!
joe rogan
Oh, there it is.
Out of nowhere, he hurt him.
I mean, Matt Brown was coming on strong.
Here we go.
Round three, bitches.
aubrey marcus
Throw to the body.
joe rogan
This is a matter of whether or not Eric Silva has that second wind in him.
These motherfuckers that cut all this incredible weight...
brendan schaub
It catches up with you, right?
joe rogan
Especially in this kind of a fight.
Because Matt Brown's not a big guy.
He's not cutting a shit ton of weight.
He's not a 200 pounder.
Oh, man.
unidentified
He's just breaking motherfuckers.
brendan schaub
Just breaking their will.
joe rogan
Oh, God.
This is awesome.
brendan schaub
Oh!
joe rogan
Spinning backwards.
And he's just constantly on you.
brendan schaub
You never get a break.
There's no rest.
joe rogan
There's no rest.
brendan schaub
Your heart rate's constantly going...
joe rogan
You know who I would fucking love to see fight Matt Brown?
Nick Diaz.
I think that might be the greatest fight in the history of the universe.
brendan schaub
You might be right.
bryan callen
Are we back?
Oh my god.
joe rogan
Matt Brown versus Nick Diaz might be the greatest matchup of all time.
brendan schaub
How's that go down?
joe rogan
I don't know.
brendan schaub
I don't know.
joe rogan
Just chaos.
brendan schaub
Diaz, just pure chaos.
joe rogan
Well, you know, Diaz is not a guy that's going to wilt like Eric Silva is.
I think there's a lot of people that do great in training, and they do great when they're not cutting the weight, and then they cut the weight and they think they're going to be okay, but they don't take into account the diminished...
Effect that it has on your body.
I mean, it has a big effect on your body.
When you're in a war like this, you really shouldn't be fighting a fucking guy like this at 170 pounds.
brendan schaub
You know in football games when it gets to the- Oh!
In overtime when they go, this is a war of nutrition.
Nah, bitch.
For reals, this is a word of nutrition.
joe rogan
They never say nutrition.
bryan callen
They say attrition.
But the point, we get your point.
brendan schaub
You got the point.
joe rogan
I got you.
brendan schaub
I've got a lot of coffee, alright?
joe rogan
I hear you, but this is a podcast.
I'd probably let that go if this wasn't on the internet.
God, Brown's on top of him.
Fucking Eric Silva up.
brendan schaub
Ooh, there's a cut now, though.
Now they're going to look to stop it with the bleeding.
joe rogan
He's mixing up.
Where's the blood?
Eric Silva's bleeding?
bryan callen
He's not protecting himself.
Do you stop it now or no?
joe rogan
Nope.
Herb Dean will give him some chances, man.
He's pushing off a little bit with his feet.
Push those feet.
That's it.
That's it.
He turtled up.
He gave up.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Matt Brown.
Fuck you, oddsmakers.
You bitches were wrong twice.
brendan schaub
These oddmakers are horrible.
bryan callen
Look at that.
joe rogan
Look at that guy in a Chuck Liddell outfit.
bryan callen
Chuck Liddell looks good.
joe rogan
Look at Eric Silva.
He is beaten down.
That motherfucker broke him.
Matt Brown is a beast.
bryan callen
That's fucking crazy.
joe rogan
He is a fucking beast.
brendan schaub
What a great fight.
joe rogan
Holy shit, that was fun.
aubrey marcus
I wonder what he's going to say about his ribs.
joe rogan
What's Joe Silva doing?
aubrey marcus
He's in the ring.
He liked the fight.
We know the fucking secret code.
bryan callen
He's already making the next fight.
He's texting Johnny Hendricks.
aubrey marcus
He's texting Nick Diaz.
brendan schaub
He's listening to this podcast.
That's a great idea, really.
joe rogan
Elbows to the eyeball.
He just elbowed him right in the eye socket.
bryan callen
That's where the cut came from.
Eric Silva gave it a serious fight, though.
joe rogan
Well, he did in the first round, but really the only thing he did is that one left kick to the body.
He just wiped blood off of his eye.
He's not in that league, man.
He's just not in that league.
This guy's in a hell league.
He dragged you into hell.
Hell league?
brendan schaub
Membership?
Just him, though.
There's really no one that might like this.
bryan callen
He is rough as it gets.
joe rogan
He's been in there for a long time.
He knows what it feels like to be in hell.
I'm just super impressed.
brendan schaub
He embraces it.
joe rogan
I'm super impressed that he bounced back from those herniated discs, too.
Not a scratch on his face.
He can go drink a beer right now.
bryan callen
God, can't he ever.
brendan schaub
Wow, that was a great fight.
bryan callen
Took some shots to the liver.
aubrey marcus
He needs to do some core work, maybe.
Help his discs, help the body shots.
joe rogan
I'm sure he did something.
He has a very unique training regimen.
They were talking about it on my message board.
Detailing it.
Talking about some of the things he does.
He carries a barrel filled with water.
You have to carry it with your hips and he carries it for five rounds and moves around with it.
Does a lot of crazy shit.
Interesting shit.
All hips and cores and glutes.
All a bunch of things that his strength and conditioning coach is some pretty controversial ideas.
brendan schaub
Monday you're going to see on my Instagram me just carrying a big ass water bottle around not knowing what the fuck I'm doing.
It's a copycat league, everybody.
aubrey marcus
You know what else works?
Girls.
brendan schaub
True.
aubrey marcus
Could carry girls.
brendan schaub
Get a heavy chick.
aubrey marcus
They're uneven.
brendan schaub
Big old heavy chick.
aubrey marcus
Not like a barrel.
joe rogan
The thing about a barrel is you can't clasp your hands around.
bryan callen
So what does he do?
I don't understand.
joe rogan
Hoists it up.
You know...
Arches his back.
brendan schaub
You have to have your hips into what you're saying.
joe rogan
Yeah, exactly.
You have to have your hips into it the same way you would take a person down.
brendan schaub
Because you have bad technique, you're not going to be able to hold the barrel up very long.
joe rogan
Or even defend the takedown.
Who are these fucking jokers?
I'll tell you what, these little skinny neck bitches don't know shit about MMA. Shut your mouth.
brendan schaub
They probably made the odds.
joe rogan
That's probably the odd makers, Jay and Dan.
Did you make the odds, you fuckheads?
Why don't you go talk about cricket?
Talk about some shit you understand.
So I guess the podcast is over, right?
I mean, is this basically over?
bryan callen
That was a good time.
Good fight.
joe rogan
I think I'm calling this a success.
I think this is probably the greatest idea we've ever had, ever, collectively.
brendan schaub
Brilliant!
bryan callen
Come see me in Edmonton and Toronto.
joe rogan
Matt, look at this.
Eric Silva still hasn't gotten up, man.
He's sitting there.
brendan schaub
He's exhausted.
joe rogan
He's broken.
And you know what else is?
He's realizing right now, I'm not going to be the champion.
He can't beat that guy, right?
I'm not going to beat that guy.
I'm not going to beat guys like him, and I'm not going to beat guys that can beat him.
Maybe he needs to fight at 85. Yeah, well, maybe he needs to stop lifting weights.
This is the thing that dudes have to realize.
Look at Matt Brown.
Not a big guy, man.
brendan schaub
I wish I could hear this.
joe rogan
Give him some volume.
Give me some volume.
unidentified
Who do you want to see fight for a title next?
bryan callen
Give it up, man.
joe rogan
Campaigning for the title.
aubrey marcus
It's a little early for that, maybe.
brendan schaub
Well, he's won eight in a row now.
joe rogan
I don't know about that, man.
brendan schaub
He's won eight in a row.
joe rogan
I don't know about that.
I would say I would definitely let him fight for the title.
I mean, Hendricks right now, Johnny has to recover from torn bicep surgery.
brendan schaub
This is the thing about the top of the food chain.
So if you're fighting Woodley, if you're fighting Roy McDonald, you're fighting Hendricks, and you come forward like that, you're going to take it down.
joe rogan
You're right.
It's a different animal, right?
brendan schaub
It's all about matchups.
Now him versus Carlos Condit, that's an amazing fight.
Carlos isn't shooting a double leg.
joe rogan
Yeah, but Carlos has got ACL reconstruction.
bryan callen
He does?
joe rogan
He's going to be out for a while.
brendan schaub
I'm just saying, certain guys, the top three guys at the very top are horrible matchups for him.
joe rogan
I don't know about all that, man.
But here's the thing.
What if Woodley beats Hendricks for the title, Matt Brown fights Woodley, and it gets into the fourth round?
You know?
brendan schaub
I agree.
joe rogan
The thing about this motherfucker is, look, I don't think there's a baddest man on the planet anymore.
And it is, I totally agree about matchups.
I totally agree.
But this kid, man, I'm telling you, Matt Brown might be as fierce as anybody I've ever seen fight.
Everybody was saying that when he was in the Octagon.
Or rather, when he was on the Ultimate Fighter.
There was a thing about him.
He breaks motherfuckers.
He breaks motherfuckers.
brendan schaub
And I don't think people realize breaking another UFC fighter is insane.
Especially when they're ranked number 14 in the world.
joe rogan
I mean, think about the gritty guys you've seen.
bryan callen
He throws those elbows, man.
Just over and over.
joe rogan
I mean, out of all the guys who have fought in the UFC, who's fiercer?
I mean, Vanderlei when he was in Pride, right?
brendan schaub
Vanderlei when he's in Pride is another level.
joe rogan
But he was also juiced to the gills, let's be honest.
brendan schaub
That's why I mean another level.
joe rogan
It's a different thing.
It's a different thing when you're on...
brendan schaub
That guy's having a real struggle tying that belt.
unidentified
All sorts of...
aubrey marcus
I don't think that's how you do it.
joe rogan
Yeah, that guy needs to learn how to tie a belt.
You can't give a belt if you don't know how to tie a belt.
What's that fucking granny knot?
That shit.
What are you, fishing?
What are you doing there?
unidentified
What are you fucking...
aubrey marcus
You're tying up a boat?
joe rogan
That thing's all goofy in the back.
Look at this.
brendan schaub
The guy ruined the fight for me.
bryan callen
You're little cuties, man.
joe rogan
Aw, these boys.
That's awesome.
unidentified
That's adorable.
joe rogan
That's awesome.
That's adorable.
Imagine that.
You will go to your fucking room when your dad tells you to go to your room.
bryan callen
Damn right.
joe rogan
Your dad's Matt Brown.
Those kids, they just watch some crazy shit that they don't understand.
unidentified
Look at their eyes.
joe rogan
Look at their eyes.
Plus, genetics.
UFC active winstreaks.
Jon Jones, 11. Hennon Burrell, 7. Matt Brown, 7. Damn.
Weidman, 7. That's impressive.
The difference is Weidman, never lost.
John Jones, never lost.
Hennenborough, never lost.
None of those guys have ever lost in the Arctic.
The last time Matt lost was Seth Pazinski, which is pretty crazy.
bryan callen
He's choking around.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're joking right now.
brendan schaub
You know how happy he is right now?
bryan callen
Yeah, no kidding.
That's a big, big win.
But I'm just saying after a war like that, he's fine.
joe rogan
You know, he's so right too.
He was completely disrespected by the odds.
You know, he's talked about it quite a bit in the pre-fight that it's two and a half to one.
He was like, what the fuck is that about, man?
bryan callen
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's like, I've won six fucking fights in a row.
And you look at the quality of competition.
brendan schaub
True.
joe rogan
And then you look at the guys that Eric Silva fought and lost to.
Fitch and knocked out by Dong Young Kim.
Again, Dong Young Kim's a beast.
No doubt about it.
But how are you going to have that kid losing to that guy, beating Sato, and then coming off of that fight being a two-to-one favorite?
That's crazy, man.
brendan schaub
That is weird.
Super weird.
bryan callen
Good fights, ladies and gentlemen.
brendan schaub
Great fights.
joe rogan
This podcast was a success.
I'm going to quit the UFC and just do this with you guys.
brendan schaub
Yeah!
joe rogan
I'm done.
This is more fun.
This is way more fun than doing commentary.
bryan callen
It's so fun.
joe rogan
You know?
It's about as good as it gets.
Boy, I think I found my future.
I don't like traveling, guys.
bryan callen
I don't either.
brendan schaub
No one likes leaving.
We're older.
No one likes leaving.
joe rogan
We're older.
We just did this right from the comfort of the podcast studio and fucking might have been my favorite podcast of all time.
brendan schaub
We just need a shitload of pickles.
joe rogan
Yeah, pickles.
brendan schaub
Pickles, bulletproof coffee.
guys enjoy the wine.
We're good.
joe rogan
I enjoyed every aspect of this.
brendan schaub
Look at this.
joe rogan
This is a stare down.
Here's the highlights again.
Eric Silva.
Eric Silva.
And he hurt him with that kick.
It's kind of a front kick.
It's almost like Cucuno's kick.
That sort of crescent kick.
That he does, but look, all over him, working the neck crank.
aubrey marcus
Too much effort in that.
joe rogan
Yep, you're right.
He gassed out because of that.
But I think it's also the body weight cut.
brendan schaub
I agree.
joe rogan
When I ran into Silva in Brazil, I swear to God, the kid had to be 200 pounds.
If he's not 200 pounds, he's fucking close.
There's that kick again.
It's like a front kick, but at an angle.
It's how Cocuno throws it.
It's like, they call it a crescent kick, but it's not a crescent kick, because it's a front kick, because it's with the ball, the foot.
Look, he hooked him with the body there.
Probably the same spot where he got hurt before.
brendan schaub
That's a nasty crucifix.
joe rogan
Eric Silva was just overwhelmed by the ferocity of Matt Brown.
brendan schaub
Didn't know what to do.
Just was never comfortable, ever.
joe rogan
I tell you what, I'm going to say it right now, Matt Brown's my favorite fighter.
Next to Brendan Shaw.
brendan schaub
I'm hurt, man.
joe rogan
I'm hurt, bro.
Not that he's the best, but his fucking...
brendan schaub
Funnest to watch.
joe rogan
He just forces everything to be war.
brendan schaub
You have no choice but to be in a war.
joe rogan
Yeah, no choice.
brendan schaub
You're not going to sit back and make it look pretty.
It doesn't matter who you are.
When you sign up to fight Matt Brown, you better get ready to have a crazy pace.
All the pretty shit's out the window.
You're going to be in the clinch.
You're going to be eating body shots.
joe rogan
It's crazy to watch something like that.
aubrey marcus
He must have won a lot of Fight of the Night bonuses.
joe rogan
Oh, well, if he didn't, there's a fucking terrible travesty.
Amazing.
Amazing fights.
Alright, that's it.
brendan schaub
That's our chopper.
That's our chopper.
joe rogan
They're here picking us up.
brendan schaub
They're here picking me up.
I'm rich as shit.
joe rogan
We'll be back tomorrow night.
What are we doing?
Tomorrow night?
aubrey marcus
Whatever you want.
joe rogan
Tomorrow night with Aubrey.
We're going to talk about flying through the jungles of Peru.
Welcome to the jungle!
On the top of feathered serpents.
He just got back from more trips.
aubrey marcus
I hung out with Gandalf the White Wizard for a week.
That's all I'm going to say.
bryan callen
I like it.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Do you guys want to go eat somewhere?
Yeah.
See if we can go grab a steak.
All right.
We're done, ladies and gentlemen.
That's it.
Thanks to Onnit.
Go to Onnit.com.
O-N-N-I-T. Use the code word ROGEN. Save 10% off any and all supplements.
Anything to tell people about Onnit?
Anything crazy?
Anything going on?
aubrey marcus
Nah, everything's good.
New shit coming out.
Oh, the Onnit Academy is awesome.
We're really consolidating all the unconventional workouts and stuff like that.
So go to Onnit, click on the Academy.
Ton of info.
Maces, clubs.
We got a new suspension training system.
We got all kinds of shit there.
brendan schaub
Can a brother get some alpha brain?
aubrey marcus
Fuck yeah, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, we got some right here.
aubrey marcus
I just need addresses, people.
joe rogan
And we got a kettlebell for your ass coming out soon, too.
Oh, shit!
The motherfucker of all kettlebells coming out.
Wait till you see this one.
I can't say a word.
How much time do you think before that comes out?
aubrey marcus
The last one I showed you?
joe rogan
Yeah.
aubrey marcus
That'll be six months.
joe rogan
Six months from now, your dick will be hard as steel.
And you'll be so excited to get this.
bryan callen
It's a kettlebell with Mac Brown's likeness.
brendan schaub
Your dick will be harder than Rogan eating that stuff from GNC 10 years ago?
joe rogan
Exactly, Mac 10. Mac 10?
unidentified
Mac 10?
joe rogan
Between now and then, though, please get in shape so you can use this fucking thing.
Because it's going to be heavy.
Brian, you're not ready for this.
bryan callen
I don't know about that.
joe rogan
You're not ready for this.
bryan callen
How big of a kettlebell do you use?
brendan schaub
I mean, I don't know, man.
bryan callen
I don't know.
brendan schaub
I'm not maxing out with kettlebells.
joe rogan
I bet he could pull a 70-pound bow without having a fucking hernia.
bryan callen
It's a 90-pound bow, by the way.
joe rogan
But you struggled with a 60. I don't have the video on that.
bryan callen
I'm not sure about that.
joe rogan
I was worried he was going to shoot in my neighbor's yard.
bryan callen
Guys, I had hit my back that day, so I didn't want to herniate.
joe rogan
Jihad, ladies and gentlemen.
bryan callen
I didn't want to herniate my back.
joe rogan
Alright, tomorrow.
And we got a fucking crazy week coming up.
We got, I think you say his name, Cenk Uygur from Young Turks.
Great guy.
He'll be here on Monday, Tuesday.
We're doing, hopefully if we work out the times, we had to change the times a bit.
But Doug Stanhope will definitely be here and Tom Rhodes as well.
Wednesday we're doing the Tripodcast, which is Duncan Trussell and Chris Ryan.
Thursday, Randall Carlson.
Friday, Rhonda Patrick.
Got a lot of shit happening, ladies and gentlemen.
A lot of fucking shit.
But tomorrow, tomorrow, we talk about Gandalf.
We talk about Peru.
We talk about the White Wizard.
Alright, we love you guys.
Thanks for tuning in and thanks for being a part of the very first ever, what do we call this thing?
The Fight Companion Podcast?
Fight Companion?
That's what I'm calling it.
brendan schaub
The Fight Squad Podcast?
joe rogan
Whatever it is.
Whatever you call it.
brendan schaub
The Rat Pack?
joe rogan
That's it.
That's it.
Much love.
unidentified
Fight Rat Pack.
joe rogan
See you soon.
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