Tom Segura joins Joe Rogan to dissect Squarespace’s seamless website-building tools and Onnit’s science-backed supplements, like On at 180, which Rogan defends despite skepticism. They debate Proposition 8’s defeat, Mormon influence, and progressive hypocrisy over biblical rules, while exploring simulation theory and reality’s malleability via quantum mechanics. Rogan critiques feminist consent debates under intoxication, calling blanket generalizations illogical, and mocks trigger warnings as absurd. The conversation pivots to Opie & Anthony’s Sirius XM suspension for unfiltered content, UFC chaos (e.g., Varner vs. Trujillo’s "mother punch"), and Rogan’s frustration with podcasting rivalry. Segura promotes Your Mom’s House, while Rogan teases bow hunter Cameron Hayes and comedian Pete Dominick, underscoring his support for raw, independent creativity over corporate censorship. [Automatically generated summary]
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What Squarespace is is a website that allows you to make your own websites.
Super easy to do.
If you can do any of the normal functions on your computer, drag and drop and click and point and all that shit, you can make a website.
Kara Santamaria, who was on the podcast last week, runs her website through Squarespace.
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What's really fucked is inheritance tax, which means that say if you, Tommy Buns, leave behind a child some money, like say one day you're a wealthy man and you work your ass off and you love the shit out of your kid, your kid wants to be a surfer or whatever the fuck, and you're like, I'm going to give my kid all my money.
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Do you really have to report that for earning, and do you have to pay taxes on that?
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What are you doing, you creepy cunts?
You know when someone's working for someone and someone's not.
You know when someone's actually getting a paycheck or someone's getting a gift, and you know that inheritance is money that somebody already fucking paid for, man.
If you want to leave your kid $10,000 and it turns out to be $6,000, Why not?
Yeah, I mean, I have a hole in the ground with a fucking vault in it.
It's bizarre that people think it's okay to pay taxes on something twice.
Here's another issue, too, when it comes to taxes and inheritance and shit.
People who are broke...
There's a lot of people that are ambitious, and they're hardworking, and they're struggling, and they're trying to put it together, but there's a lot of also people that are broke that are cunts, and they want everybody else to be broke too, and they think that somehow if you pay more taxes, it's going to help the economy or help them.
No, it's not.
It's going to give money to some fucking people that are going to be incompetent with it.
Let's be honest about what the fuck's going on with your taxes.
It's not going to fix the fucking homeless problem.
It's not going to fix the school system if you take 10% of this guy's money that his dad left him.
Just stop.
You're stealing.
You're stealing and you're throwing it into an incompetent system.
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There's a lot of fucking talk online about From a lot of salacious headlines about multivitamins don't work.
When you look into those multivitamins don't work claims, what you find is that the tests that they were using in order to determine that multivitamins don't work were really ridiculous.
What they're doing is they're saying that people who are over 65 who have had heart attacks Don't benefit from multivitamins, synthetic multivitamins.
That's essentially one of their main points of their study.
Their study had three parts to it.
It's a really bizarre study.
One of them was that They showed that high-dose multivitamins had no effect on the progression of heart disease and heart attacks of virus.
The other one was the male physicians over 65 showed no improvement in cognitive decline using generic multivitamin supplementation.
So what they're doing is they're taking people that are really fucked up already and dying, old people.
They're giving them multivitamins that are synthetic.
Generic, and they're not showing improvement in cognitive decline.
Well, let's be honest.
First of all, When someone's having cognitive decline, it's over.
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Unless there's some new miracles that come out.
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They can't do any of the miracles that modern science and modern medicine hasn't been able to do either.
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I mean, you can maybe cut out a few things in your life that you're doing that are hurting you, like drinking or cleaning up your diet, giving yourself less inflammation.
There's a bunch of things you can do to slow down the process, but when you're fucking dying, you're fucking dying, man.
So, for someone to make a study saying that vitamins don't work and they're a waste of money, based on these, that shit is so irresponsible.
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And this is coming from, we don't even sell multivitamins.
You know, I think that the best vitamins that you can get into your body are the closest to how nature intends them, meaning food-based vitamins.
Nutrients that are based on actual food, not synthetics.
And synthetics, I'm sure, are better than nothing.
The idea that they're not is ridiculous.
The idea that there's a reason why they know that vitamin C cures scurvy, prevents scurvy.
There's a reason why they know that when you have a lack of calcium, your body can get osteoporosis.
This is all facts and science.
People love to shit on things that are controversial when they do not have all the evidence.
They love to be a naysayer.
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And they love to call bullshit when they're fucking wrong.
And with vitamins and supplementation, I think they're wrong in a huge way.
I prefer to get my vitamins.
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We're going to have some doctors on, some scientists in the near future that are extreme advocates for multivitamin supplementation.
And we've had many conversations with these people because of these sort of salacious headlines that people are really pissed off because they've seen some...
Improvement in their patients with various things.
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Multivitamins.
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Because we were at this old venue and this place, the only way you could get to the 10th floor where the auditorium is, is you had to take an elevator.
And out of the bank of four elevators, two of them were broken.
It was some sort of an effect of all these doors being open and the wind coming in from the front door.
So the wind would come in from the front door with such momentum that it would go down these hallways and literally make it upstairs so you'd be on the 10th floor and the wind would come whistling through.
That when you are in a fire, when you open windows and you open doors, it affects the amount of oxygen coming to the fire and sometimes it's almost like an explosion that comes at you.
Wind and air and heat and temperature, we deal with them so often on a stable basis.
Air-conditioned rooms, especially in California, pretty stagnant climates, pretty static climate.
But when things change radically and have these weird effects, you realize how bizarre the whole idea really is in the first place.
Fucking air, invisible air around us all the time, whipping around and moving, and you can feel it when it blows on you, but you don't see shit.
I mean, all new buildings will definitely, like buildings in the last 20 years, all will have sway, especially if they're built, well, I'm sure in New York, but like San Francisco, LA, you know, they expect them to have tolerance for earthquakes.
The guy who works with artificial technology, he's this proponent of the idea of the transcendental man, that one day we're going to be able to transcend our biological existence and either become a part of a computer or download consciousness into computers.
It's based on a couple of years, and then you also only live so long.
Like, when you're talking about, like, history, time and history, you know, a human lifespan is not even, like, you don't even measure how often something happens by...
So we only refer to things happening through, like...
Oh, it hasn't happened since, like, my grandfather was around.
Just think about how little change happens over the course of seven days in the world.
I mean, sometimes yes, sometimes no, but the idea of basing the weather on what happens in seven-day increments is fucking completely ridiculous, because we know about seasons.
It gives you a good perspective because we know that winter's going to be, even if it's in Iowa, even if it's somewhere like Michigan, it's fucking cold as shit, it's four months, you know, tough it up, suck it up, you'll be all right.
And if you happen to, like, walk on a pavement, oh my god, or get into a car, and you're looking at the thing, you turn the car on, it says, like, 122 on your dashboard, and you're like...
I mean, there's no such thing as like, I really, you know, I understand people that like the seasons and all that and, you know, the change, but nobody wants to be around 20 below for extensive periods of time usually.
That's, you know, reasonable.
I think you kind of want to get out of that naturally after a while.
It's one of those Alaska shows where people are living in these strange climates, and there's this woman who operates this refueling station, and it's, I think, a hundred and something miles north of the Arctic Circle.
It's hard to tell who they are, if they're relaxed and you're just talking to them.
Like...
Sometimes it takes months to get to know someone to find what goes on behind the scenes inside of their head.
So you don't really know that lady that well from watching her on that show.
But what you can tell is there's something that she's enjoying about being up there in this really scary environment where she's already been attacked by a fucking bear.
Jesus.
And those are grizzly bears.
These are the big brown bears.
They're not like black bears that you can scare away.
But if you're in the water, you have about the same amount of chance, except the only thing that saves you is that sharks are stupid.
So if there's some way that you could, like, jab it in the nose with, like, a harpoon, if you had, like, one of those fish harpoons, like dudes who go, what do they call it, spearfishing?
If you could, like, stab it in the nose with that, you might be able to get it the fuck away from you because you know that they're kind of sensitive in their nose.
And now when you think about, like, just that, whatever you already knew about them, you think about that added stat, and you think about the fact that they hunt in packs.
Think about three or four of those mouths, what that's possible doing in how quick amount of time.
You know, I mean, like, they ambush you.
You know, they come this way, that way, and pretty soon you're looking around like, oh, shit.
Steve Rinella, my friend, the hunter guy from the show Meat Eater, was talking about there was this one thing where people were talking about running and trying to keep up with wolves.
Could a man try to keep up with the wolf?
And one of the ways that they tested it is they took these wolf dogs and they let these wolf dogs go and then they had these people run through the mountains and see if they can keep up with the wolf dogs.
You know, see, like, wolves can run faster, but sometimes people can run longer and steadier pace.
Well, the wolf's dogs, wolf dogs are not wolves.
And he was like, the way he described it is like, that's like taking an alien.
And an alien comes down and finds the fattest, most out of shape guy with the worst diet and says, run as fast as you can.
Craig Robinson, the other night, at the Improv, who's in it, where I was telling him, I go, dude, that movie is so goddamn funny, and you were so funny in it, you know?
And we were talking about the Kenny Power scene, like, when he comes in.
I mean, like, the movie's outstanding, and then he comes in, and just the whole thing goes to this whole new level of craziness.
I read interviews with him and the other guys, Jody Hill, I think, and Ben, I can't remember his name, but they all are behind this, and they're saying how a lot of people appreciate the character and think it's funny for what it is, and then some people are big fans on another level where they're like, yeah, he's right.
Like, Kane Powers is...
That's how I think, too.
Like, they're that kind of fan where they're like, fuck yeah, man.
Yeah, there's a lot of those people in real life, and sometimes folks, all they need is, like, one example like that, and that little shift.
Like, you could have people on the fence who are just thinking about, like, waking up and going, you know, what do I care if someone's gay, man?
What is it in me that gets mad about these gay people?
And why do I, you know, say they're going to burn in hell?
Maybe I should just fucking relax.
And then they see that guy on TV, and they see he's been kicked off TV. You know what?
That's it!
I'm fucking headed up to here with these queers!
I'm like, There's a tipping point where a guy like that on a television show and that whole debate getting out there without any real rational response from either the media, from A&E, from anybody.
No one gets on TV and says, look, we're here to make a big statement about this.
This is what's wrong with this, and this is why we have a problem with it.
It's not about freedom of speech.
It's not about speaking your mind.
It's about what's on your mind, man.
What is on your mind?
Your mind is that they're gonna burn in hell?
Your mind is some fire and brimstone if someone is in love with another man and marries them?
You're an idiot, okay?
You're a dangerous idiot.
You're taking people that I know for a fact are born that way.
I'm no scientist, but I know a gay kid in my neighborhood.
No, but what happens if a kid like that is watching television, and he realizes he's gay, and maybe he's 12 or 13, and he's thinking about sex, and he's watching this, and he feels horrible about himself.
That's the parallel when people talk about, like, oh, you know, it's not the same thing you've been through and are, like, comparing the civil rights movement to this.
But the thing that's similar is that you're just trying to put down and isolate a group of people for something that they can't control because you don't want any part of that.
So that's the parallel is that whether you don't want to hang around or you want to put down black people or Asian people or whoever it may be, that's the same thing as putting down somebody and not wanting them to have the rights just because they were born with a certain sexual orientation.
Well, no, because what I'm saying is people, like, civil rights people don't like it because they feel that it somehow or another diminishes the horrors of slavery.
Like, there's an issue that people have with, like, comparing something to racism.
And black people, in particular, have an issue with gay people comparing themselves and the plight of gay Americans to racism.
I've seen it.
I've heard people scream and yell about it, about it's not the same, and fuck you, and some people, gay is a choice.
I've seen a lot of weirdness, almost as if...
They're worried that it somehow or another diminishes what's horrible about slavery, which is ridiculous.
Slavery was horrible, still is.
Racism was horrible, still is.
But so is homophobia.
That's just as horrible.
The people that think it's not, it's just because you're not gay.
It's that simple.
If that was who you are, and people were angry about who you are, it would be just as bad as you being born Chinese and people hate Chinese people.
And you're like, what the fuck, man?
I didn't do anything.
You hate me because of the way I was born?
It's the same goddamn thing.
And the idea is, well, yeah, well, nobody ever owned gay people.
They killed them.
It's in the Bible.
It's in the Bible that you should be put to death for lying with another man.
You don't think that they've been persecuted?
There's a hundred different religions where it's illegal or against their rules to be gay.
You could start with Islam and work your way up through a bunch of other different ones.
And Putin came out, because we were about to have the Winter Olympics there, and said that gay athletes have nothing to worry about, they're not going to be discriminated against when they're in Russia for the Winter Olympics, but...
Rules still apply where you're not supposed to be talking about it to anybody and giving your opinions on.
So we're not going to do anything to you because you're gay and you're here, but don't be talking about it.
The way to run, the way to be a dictator, the way to run an empire is through fear, through control and fear.
And as many enemies as you have that you have to protect the people from, the better.
And so one of the things that dictators do is they start pushing people against other people.
If you can get people to be inter-conflicted amongst the ranks of the normal civilians, you can guarantee that they're going to be busy.
They're going to have conflict.
They're not going to be able to deal with taxes or the rules or the military, choices the military's making.
They're so busy with their own shit, worried about these people going after this group and this ethnic group going after that group and, you know, the gays are going to touch their kids.
I mean, there's...
And then, you know, fostering violence against gay people is going to foster anger from gay people against straight people.
What's amazing, apparently, a lot of these African American churches organized drives to vote against Proposition 8. But I was saying that the church community is bigger in black culture.
Yeah, I mean, I don't believe in those kind of conspiracies.
Mm-hmm.
necessarily that like the whole social structure of this country is organized keep people poor so there's conflict and keep people rich so they keep voting for corporations they want to protect their wealth yeah this is and keep the the divide between the two and every now and then you know organized chaos in a way that we were sort of kind of hinting that maybe Putin or someone does but if you're gonna do it this is the way to do it yeah the way to do it is to take like what's your ordinary like liberals okay let's let's break down liberals Liberals,
like, left wing, they're almost always voting pro-minority.
They vote pro-minority and almost always pro-gay rights.
So what better to separate that mess and cause confusion amongst the ranks is to get those two factors on your enemy, these two, like, static, constant factors, and have them duking it out.
So now you have people who support gay rights and people that support the idea that gays should be married duking it out with black people, with minorities and Christian minorities who almost universally vote Democratic.
So it's like, whoa, that was a tricky thing you did there.
Because by causing trouble between those groups of people, you essentially weaken the entire party.
And that's what happens.
If you connect black people and gay people, that black people keep gay people from voting, the whole left wing becomes a fucking mess.
It becomes chaos, because white guilt runs rampant through the left, through Democrats, so many, especially educated Democrats, Who are filled with white guilt.
Yeah.
And they don't want to come down on black people.
And they don't want to come down on black people even for something as heinous as Proposition 8. Yeah.
Because if Proposition 8 was being supported by a bunch of church-going white people, much more like it was being read, you know, strictly by Baptists, but white Baptists.
It was this weird sort of like touchy subject, tough to do.
You know, you didn't see people like mocking all these black people, like whether it's on The Daily Show or whether it's on any of these left-wing websites.
We're mocking black people for the majority of them voting for this.
The big thing now is, for the last few years, people trying to figure out how the Republican Party can really compete again, win the White House and win certain other elections.
And one of the things that keeps being brought up is that The younger, there's certain constants among the left and the right.
Like if you go abortion, you know who's pro-life, who's pro-choice.
And with the gay thing is that The far right won't, you know, support that, right?
They're not going to support it.
But the younger generation of new voters, even ones who are conservative, have conservative values, grew up in a world where it's more welcoming to the gay community.
And they're not necessarily—like, moderate ones can be— I tell you, you're always going to try to win over, right?
Somebody who's not an extremist.
They're leaning left now, younger voters, because of some of these extreme constants.
And so it's like, if that party, the right, could...
Yeah, and would they then be able to compete more for these maybe younger voters, you know, the more open-minded young people who feel like that's a basic right?
It's kind of an interesting way to look at it.
Like, if you change your position on that, do you then get somebody who you want elected?
70% of black people voted in favor for Proposition 8. 70% of black people voted that gay people shouldn't be allowed to be married and that they should take that right away from them.
That's incredible.
That's fucking gross.
That's gross and terrifying.
It's funny because I'm reading an article on Huffington Post.
Stop blaming California's black voters for Proposition 8. That's what it says?
Yeah.
Okay.
Don't blame them.
Because a lot of other people voted for it as well.
But if you don't think that it's embarrassing and gross that 70% of black people voted for some silly law that takes away the right for people that are in love to get married, I think maybe it is because, I mean, obviously it's religious.
The Jesus stuff is very different because Jesus and most of what a lot of people quote about that is all from the New Testament and the New Testament is even sketchier than the Old Testament.
The Old Testament is sketchy because it was originally written in ancient Hebrew and the oldest versions of some of these stories are actually the Dead Sea Scrolls which are written in Aramaic and they're actually on animal skins that they found in an area of Israel called Qumran and they found these clay pots and inside these clay pots They found these ancient, ancient scrolls.
And some of them are so fucked up that they have to piece them together with, like, tweezers.
And they've spent years and years and years and years deciphering these things, man.
And, you know, you can see them online, actually.
They have photos.
Let me see.
I think there's a website, Dead Sea Scrolls, online.
But...
That's the only version of the Bible that's in Aramaic.
Yeah, Dead Sea Scrolls Online, it's actually dss.collections.img.org.
Just look up Dead Sea Scrolls Online and Google it.
Melissa Etheridge says that she gets on an airplane, she's really happy for all the other people on the airplane because she knows that airplane's not going to crash because she's on it because she's sort of creating her world.
We can't prove what kind of power your consciousness has over the world itself.
We assume there's a lot of random factors that come into play in life.
Whether it's with car accidents or meteor impacts or disease, name it, fill in the blank.
But we don't know that.
And there's a lot of things about being a person that are very strange.
There's a lot of things about our interactions with each other, about energy, about the amount of energy you put out and what you get back, the way you interact with humans.
And how do we not know that those things in some way or another, the way you interact with people, flavor not just your relationships with those people, but the entire reality that you live in?
It's very possible that there's more flexibility and that the world is more malleable than we think it is.
And that we have everything defined in terms of what something weighs or how much distance this is.
But these are just sort of crude static factors in a constantly changing and moving world.
And the human mind interacting with that world might be much more significant than we think it is.
It's one of the The smallest, tiniest thing.
It's magic.
It's all magic.
When you get into quantum mechanics, when you get into string theory, subatomic particles, when you get into really complex mathematics and different experiments they do on the smallest, tiniest, measurable parts of the world, it's all magic.
It's all empty space.
I mean, atoms are mostly empty space.
Inside these subatomic particles, they're moving and they're still at the same time.
They blink in and out of existence.
They go somewhere and they disappear and then they come back.
We have no idea where they go.
We just know they go somewhere.
They exhibit magic.
The lowest measurable part of the universe itself is magic.
The smallest portions that we can measure are magic.
So just because everything is big and this table is made out of oak and this microphone is metal, that doesn't mean shit.
I mean, it means shit if I hit you over the head with this, it's gonna fucking hurt because that's the rules we've chosen.
But the actual reality itself, it's very malleable.
There's a lot of weirdness to the world.
I don't think Melissa Etheridge is totally right.
I think there's a lot of hubris involved in thinking that you have the answer and that you thinking good thoughts and, you know, this plane is never gonna crash.
I don't believe that.
I mean, this is coming also from a person who suffered from cancer.
So it's like, I think it's a self-serving philosophy to think that way.
You might be right, but to say you're right, I think, is crazy.
If people are going crazy right now listening to this, I agree with you.
It sounds like bullshit.
Most likely, it's not true.
But it might be true.
We can't prove that it's not.
We don't know all of the interactions that the human mind and consciousness have on the universe itself.
We don't know.
We assume that it's as simple as you are responsible for your life, you're responsible for your actions, you're responsible for where you drive and where you go to school, what comes out of your mouth.
We assume that that is just a part of the mathematical interaction of human beings in this culture, in this society, in this civilization.
But we're not totally sure.
It is possible that your thinking and that your mind itself might affect reality.
Because the reality that you see and the reality that I see is just what's in front of us.
We assume that this is constantly going on behind the scenes.
You assume that when you go home and you sit in front of the TV, you assume I exist.
Until I text you, you don't know for sure.
Until you call me or we meet and we high-five and get on a plane, go tell some jokes, we don't know that we exist.
We just assume, based on the evidence that I've accumulated, when I go home, I assume that you, Tommy Buns, live your life.
But I don't know what the fuck you do.
The whole thing could be a joke.
My life could be non-real.
In your world, I could be just what happens when you come around the program that is Joe Rogan.
Well, that's a joke that I used to do about the aliens.
The simulation theory, what it really is, the reason why aliens exist, that's us.
Aliens are us in the future, and what we are is we're people that fucked up, and we evolved too far.
We eliminated all the fun out of the world.
We eliminated sex, blowjobs, muscle cars, cigarettes.
We took out whiskey.
We eliminated all human conflict, and what are we left with?
We're left with boring bullshit.
We don't have bodies.
We have these weird stick bodies anymore.
We don't have dicks.
Somewhere along the line, people realize that dicks and vaginas are causing huge fucking problems.
There's too many women out there that are getting pregnant to keep a man.
There's too many men out there that are raping.
There's too much nonsense.
There's too many people that are having babies that really don't support these children correctly.
So sex and sexual urges being what's responsible for breeding, we gotta factor that out.
We gotta take that out of the equation.
So one day, they got everything Like, changed and evolved to a point where they eliminated all the variables in the world.
They have too much power and they eliminated sex and emotions.
And we don't like it.
So we plug ourselves in to a simulated version of the roaring 20s of the digital age.
It's not a coincidence that we are, at this moment in time, the craziest moment the world has ever known, where the world and the universe is constantly changing every second of every day.
It's not a coincidence at all.
In fact, this is what we asked for.
We asked to be born in this time.
We right now...
I mean, I said this on stage Friday night, but I believe it.
We live in the greatest time to be alive ever.
This is the strangest, wildest, most...
They're the most possibility-filled time in life.
There's so many things going on constantly.
There was something in the news today that the first monkeys were born that have...
They altered the genetics of them.
I'll pull it up on Twitter because this is such a strange...
strange...
When I posted it, everybody was like, wait a minute, isn't this how fucking Planet of the Apes got started?
But it is how Planet of the Apes got started.
These idea, first monkeys with customized DNA, programmed genetic mutations.
So they are programmed genetic mutations, and these monkeys were born.
So they're working on creating a perfect monkey.
They're going to alter the genes of these monkeys, and they're going to continue to alter genes of the monkeys until essentially they have a monkey that's as smart as a fucking person.
And the idea being that what the aliens are, when everybody has these archetypal experiences, it's always these things that look very similar to what you would expect human beings to eventually become.
If you go back to the lower hominids, you go back to monkeys, you go back to chimpanzees, you go back to the great apes, And you look at them in comparison to us, what do you see?
Well, they have more hair, they look much stronger, they're much more physically fit.
You take the average person that works in an office, the average man, and you compare them to the great apes.
They're all fat and they're skinny, they have no muscle.
What is going to be next?
What's going to be next?
Well, what's going to be next is that we're going to continue the trend to not need brawn, to not need biological strength.
The brains are going to get bigger.
Telekinesis, the ability to control things with the mind, the ability to talk without using language, so the mouth is going to shrink up.
The environment's going to be all fucked, so you're going to have to need built-in sunglasses.
You've got these fucking gigantic black eyes that are going to evolve because we're going to ruin our fucking atmosphere.
I mean, they literally are what we'd expect us to look like a million years from now.
We would expect human beings to slowly but surely evolve into that.
If we used to be hairy little furry rodents, which is what we were, the idea of, you know, there was no primates 65 million years ago, okay?
When the great extinction event happened that killed off the dinosaurs, the giant piece of rock from the sky that hit the Yucatan, there was no primates.
Primates, somehow or another, Evolved out of that, out of the shrews and the monkey and the rats and whatever the fuck survived.
So we're so positive that things got wiped out at 65 million years ago.
So positive.
So positive that's when the dinosaurs died off.
So from then on, somehow or another, people were created.
That's nothing!
That's a goddamn blink of the eye!
And if you look at how much different we look than the early monkeys, What's next?
Aliens is next.
That's next.
It's 100% next.
That's what you would think.
If we're going to continue this trend of no hair, hair loss on the arms and the body, people are getting less hairy, people are getting less strong, they're getting smaller, you're using your fingers and Eventually you're going to use Google Glasses so you're just going to talk to it.
Eventually it's going to be able to read your mind so you don't have to talk.
Your fucking vocal cords are going to shrink up.
We're going to all agree to genetically alter ourselves so we don't have penises anymore.
As soon as they come up with a fucking thing that you can program into that takes you in a wild sexual ride of simulation that you could never achieve with your actual real dick, you'd be like, I don't need this stupid thing anymore.
Your dick is going to be just as dumb as a horse.
Your dick is going to be like something that you're like, remember when people used to fuck with dicks?
You gotta laugh about it.
Just like when sending a fucking pigeon with a note wrapped around its leg.
Why would I do that when I can text you?
You wouldn't.
You wouldn't.
But what about the actual having the writing in your hand?
Get the fuck out of here.
The dude will send me a selfie with a big smile and a thumbs up and it gets to me in one second.
I feel like this path is going to lead us to just...
Be born and just lay down with a fucking monitor in front of us like and just you sip your fucking nutrients in a cup and never stand up and just plug into whatever you want to be.
We're gonna get our nutrients the same way those wireless pads are when you know you take one of those new cell phones we get sitted on something and it just charges you don't even have to plug it in.
That's how we're gonna get our nutrients.
Our nutrients are gonna be delivered through our car seats.
As we drive to work, we're going to get nutrients.
You're going to drive to work naked, and the nutrients are going to just be absorbed by your body skin.
I mean, why not your skin?
I mean, you rub testosterone cream on, testosterone cream absorbs right through your skin.
They're going to fuck it, and you're going to be able to sit in your little Honda on your way to work, and your car is going to feed you.
If you brought that thing back in time, if you brought that thing, just a simple-ass stupid lava lamp, if you brought that back in time and showed someone from King Arthur's time, they'd kill you.
Thomas Edison, interesting cat, because obviously great genius and inventor and responsible for a lot of pretty incredible things, but also was doing battle with the concepts that were being endorsed by other scientists, like even Nikola Tesla, who was an alternating current guy.
He believed in ultimate current, and Edison, his whole thing was set up on direct current.
So if you watch it, pull that video up, because it's fucking crazy.
Like this is, again, when you think about human beings, it's not that long ago, man.
Do you imagine if someone tried to prove something?
If they tried to prove, you know, we are on the verge of wireless electricity, ladies and gentlemen, in order to tell you what is wrong with wireless electricity.
Here's, you know, Marty McFuckface, and Marty McFuckface, the scientist, shows us.
Here we are in Times Square, ladies and gentlemen.
This is an elephant.
It is connected to this receiver, and we're going to broadcast wireless electricity to his brain.
Watch what happens.
This poor elephant.
Fucking ears stick out, strip.
Starts bleeding from his eyeballs and falls face first.
The only great thing about that is, you know when you call somebody out, She was calling him out on national television, and his defense instincts kicked in.
Or when she said, she was like, he realized they're probably just having a nice chat.
She brings that up, and he was like, immediately, his face changed.
Then he goes, yeah, I haven't changed my position on that.
He was really like, I'm going to do battle with you now.
I think he's just really confident, and I think he believes in what he's saying, and he thinks that Barbara Walters is trying to catch him and expose that and have him back down.
I'm just like, I'm not gonna back down.
I'm not gonna back down.
I date crazy bitches, and sometimes I have to smack them.
Because we all have been there before where you break up with someone and you're like, it's over and it's like fucking devastating and it's heartbreaking.
And then one day you run into them and it might be just a month later or two months later or whatever.
Maybe you both have dated other people, whatever.
And then you hook up.
And it's incredible.
The sex is incredible.
And you're nice to each other, and you're like, I'm sorry, I'm sorry too.
And you're like...
And it's incredible.
It's such a heightened type of sex, makeup sex.
Because sometimes people need to put things into perspective.
They need the benefit of time.
They need the benefit of...
Having all these emotions run through your head, having all these bad feelings, but then having them all slow down and relax, and time puts things into perspective.
And then you see each other then, and you're like, ugh, what the fuck?
And all you can think of then is the good times.
It's real hard to think about these really stupid, petty, bad times in relationships once the relationship is over.
You really mostly just think about the good stuff about that person.
Well, I just think there's a lot of weird personality traits.
You know, there's a lot of weird biological traits.
People have a lot of different things going on.
It's like people with alcohol.
I mean, there's people that are the worst drunks ever, that are super nice people, and there's also people that they have a couple of drinks and they just become friendlier.
I remember reading about him going to get help, like, I want to say within the last year to do something, you know, like some type of rehab thing in the last year.
Well, I think that some of the people that are able to encapsulate those incredible characters, they're able to fit themselves into those characters...
A lot of those people are fucking crazy, like Robert Downey Jr., you know, crazy, you know, would go off on wild benders and drugs.
There's a lot of those people that are, like, really good at acting that are sort of attracted to that.
Because what I'm seeing now with pills, I've met several people.
I know several people.
I know one guy very well that died from pills.
I know one guy very close to my family who fucked up his entire life on pills, and he's still a mess, and he used to be a great guy, and he's just a wreck.
And it's all opiates.
All opiates.
You know?
And then you see this guy, and you go, like, fuck, man.
Like, if it was legal, would it be even more prevalent?
Like, I would hope not.
But, God, it's just...
I'm just anti-heroin.
I think heroin's a terrible drug to live your life with.
Whether the man has limited inhibitions or not, that man wants to have sex.
If a guy comes to your house, it's like if a guy goes to a bar, gets drunk, take a cab to your house, let's make it a responsible story, the guy takes a cab to your house and you throw him on the bed and fuck him.
And pretending that it is, because you don't want women to be taken advantage of, and they'll compare it to like Steubenville, like the girl who was, she was so drunk that she was unconscious and these guys raped her.
Unbelievably horrible and disgusting and it's a crime and it's evil.
Because saying that a man being drunk, having sex with a woman is that man being raped, diminishes the impact of what's horrible about something like Steubenville.
You're saying something that is so preposterous that anyone with any logic...
Could immediately pick apart.
Anyone who's had any experience, anyone who's a man, by the way, who's a heterosexual man, who knows what it's like to have a couple of drinks and want to go have sex.
Like, the idea that that is somehow or another rape, because you went over someone who obviously you like, you obviously like this person, you most likely have had sex with them before, you go over to their house.
I would even argue that if you're a man and you took a cab to that woman's house and she handcuffed you to a bed and blindfolded you and put a ball gag in your mouth and fucked you, that you also had a good time.
Like, it wasn't something that you were fighting, you know?
The only thing that can be really crazy is if, okay, here's a scenario.
Some sort of a survival situation where you're fleeing the country and you have your friend's wife with you and you have to stay in a hotel together because there's only enough money for one hotel room and just going to get some sleep and then get on the road.
You're like, I'll sleep on the floor, you take the bed, and then while you're sleeping, you wake up and she's sucking your dick.
You're like, okay, you just fucking ruined my life.
You're a person who's dangerous because you're fucking up the whole idea and argument, the whole conversation about alcohol intoxication.
You're ruining it by being unreasonable.
By taking this hard, rigid stance, you diminish the effect of something like Steubenville, where they are getting someone so fucked up and taking advantage of someone who's so fucked up.
And some, not some girls, goddammit, a lot of girls like to get drunk and get fucked.
They like to have sex with people they want to have sex with when they have a few drinks.
They like it a lot.
So the idea that people say that that's rape because of whatever, because you want to push this ridiculous progressive agenda and this idea that anyone having a couple of drinks is somehow or another so incapacitated that they're like a child, like we have to protect them.
Yeah, I guess they're not making the distinction that there's a difference between a woman choosing to have drinks and go have sex and a woman who has had too many drinks and someone is taking advantage of her.
And the girl could say, oh, I got too drunk to consent, and then, you know, Tumblr talk, progressive think, everybody's like, oh, it is rape to have sex with someone who's drinking.
No, no, it's rape sometimes to have sex with someone who's drinking.
To say that you're not responsible for your own actions sexually, but you are when you're driving a car, you are when, you know, you assault someone, you know, you're responsible.
If you kick someone's ass and hurt them, and you're like, I'm so sorry, I was drunk.
You know, if your girlfriend comes home and she's hammered and she beats the fuck out of you and hits you over the head with a hammer and you go to the hospital, your fucking head's gashed open.
But if she comes over your house and she's drunk and she fucks you, Then you're a rapist, because you didn't take into account the fact that she's not responsible for our actions, because she's had a couple of drinks.
It's so illogical, and they're so rigid on this because they want to support 100% women and women's rights and the idea of not supporting rape culture, the idea of diminishing rape in society.
But by being so rigid and by being preposterous and illogical, you ruin the whole discussion because we're on your side.
You and I are 100% on their side as far as someone being drunk and you take advantage of that person.
That's the only thing you can prove, for sure, that's bad for your body.
It's just one of those weird things, man.
Where people who are intelligent, who have good intentions, and there's good meaning behind what they're trying to do, they fuck it all up with their ego, and they fuck it all up with their rigid thinking, and they fuck it all up because they're not being open and objective about the entire discussion of the situation.
I was going to say that is that people also assume that...
They'll say the anger with respect to, like, somebody doing something on stage, and they'll have no idea that that person's not like that offstage, that that's a heightened, you know, version of themselves for their act.
It's a real issue with progressives, this idea that you're going to silence that kind of thinking and talking.
You know, silence those kind of jokes.
And I see the point.
I see that you're trying to make a kinder, gentler world for people to live in, but...
I really feel like concentrating on jokes is a bad idea.
It is.
It ruins the whole idea of trying to make people, or at least diminishes the whole idea, of trying to make people nice in real life when they really mean it and really care.
Because you're not focusing on that.
Instead, you're focusing on when they don't mean it and they're joking around.
And the idea that somehow or another that joking around fuels the actual act...
The actual act of violence or the actual act of rape or the actual act of anything evil or mean because joking around about it somehow or another gives a green light?
That's such a silly idea.
That's so silly.
If you have a problem with rape or if you have a problem with violence, if you have a problem with assaults, do something that remedies the root cause of that, and you'll find that it's not jokes.
But we're on your side and you're making us look like there's something wrong with us because we want to drink and fuck.
You're making us look like there's something wrong with us because we enjoy a ridiculous joke that someone doesn't really mean, that's really cruel and nasty.
When people write blogs, like super progressive people, when they write blogs, if they talk about rape or anything, violence or crime, they will put trigger warning in there.
A trigger warning to let you know that something horrible is coming up.
And it might trigger post-traumatic stress.
Really?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Say if you got beat up and robbed and someone's writing about a robbery, they'll put trigger warning in the title or trigger warning in the thing and then explain what they're talking about so that you get warned that they're going to talk about assault or you get warned that they're going to talk about rape or sexual aggression or whatever the fuck it is.
It's a fascinating aspect of our society that you want to protect people From just even thinking about something that might have happened to them that's bad.
Yeah, so that subject, whatever that subject is, is either off limits or severely limited because of the fact that someone actually has been victimized in real life.
Well, I mean, because you don't get trigger warnings when you're not doing it.
Aside from reading that fucking blog...
There's no trigger warnings on signs when you walk down the street.
There's no trigger warnings that when you have a conversation with somebody who you might not know well, they're not going to be like, real quick, in a moment, I'm going to bring up fighting.
I unfortunately missed the incident, but you said it immediately.
And I kept wrapping my head around it, and I think what I've come to the conclusion is Is that if you do that, all I'm looking for is for you to acknowledge it.
And then we're trying to figure out what kind of farts girls cut when they're in the bathroom and whether or not they wash their hands and fart on each other.
You know, like if a woman wants to go out and fuck a bunch of different guys, like if a woman wants to fuck two guys in a night, she's a terrible person.
Like, if you find out about that, oh my god, she went to this guy's house, she fucked him, then she left, then she went to this other guy's house and fucked him.
Glass went through your neck, shit was in your eyeballs, and you died knowing that shit was all over your face and feeling the hot blood rush out of your neck.
Well, I would like to see a girl who's, like, addicted to stimulants, like, who's trying to be really skinny, and just how little she actually shits in a day.
I think as an art exhibit, we were talking about art a lot this weekend, it'd be great to set up a live exhibit.
I've always thought of this, where you have like 10 people...
50 feet up, and they're butt naked, and they have different body types, and they're sitting on glass toilets with glass tubes coming down, and then the exhibit is you walk around and they all shit at the same time.
Well, the best part I was fascinated with is that if they get that out there, they cede the stuff to these important people, and then they make sure that the people that were gifted show up to the gallery so that when other people with money are there, that person's like, yeah, I have one of those.
Yeah, and it's kind of the fear, I think, the base of the fear.
Yeah, yeah, as we talked about this, Exit Through the Gift Shop is exactly kind of the same mentality where the guy who was documenting Banksy was like, I'll be an artist.
Yeah, yeah, and he makes crazy money, and there's no history of him, there's no origin of work being built.
It was just one day, it was like, here's a bunch of work, here's an overwhelming amount of work that I kind of didn't really create, and then everybody was willing to...
It's like, okay, how many times have there been a Comedy Central special, and you'll see the Comedy Central special coming up, and they'll have a bunch of people that are...
He's one of the funniest guys out there.
And boom.
Bah, bah, bah, bah, bah.
And then you have, you know, someone famous will say something.
There's only one reason why people become critics.
It's because they don't have anything to contribute.
There's no critics that are critics because, you know, I'm brilliant at writing books, and I'm amazing at doing paintings and art, but what I really like to do is judge other people's shit.
That's my favorite thing.
No, they usually want to be authors.
They want to be screenwriters.
They want to be someone who's doing that thing, but they don't have it in them.
So they become a critic.
That's one of the beautiful things about things like Rotten Tomatoes.
They're just regular people.
They don't have to write a review of this.
They write a review of it because they're inspired to.
Because unless you know who the other person is, and unless you know what Roger's contributions were, you know?
I mean, he was a part of a dogshit movie, but I've been a part of dogshit shows.
You know, there's a lot of those things that we did on The Man Show that were dogshit.
But if you know about the behind-the-scenes struggles to even get dogshit made, you'd realize how difficult it is to have something represent what you wanted to do.
Especially if it was like his first movie he tried to make.
The standards and practice people say, you can't say this, you can't say that, change it to this, and that waters it down, but it's good enough, let's do it anyway.
You imagine this as a representation of what he wants, but you don't know that he's actually, I mean, getting on exactly what he wants all the time, right?
Yeah, which is the beautiful thing about podcasts and the beautiful thing about stand-up is you don't have to have something in it that you don't like.
It's one fucking guy, and Matt Stone is involved in it as well, and all the writers are involved as well, but without having this one guy, if you've watched that one-hour thing that they did, what was it called?
Yeah, really fascinating because you get to see his process, the creative process, how many other people input things and what's involved in the creating of things.
But their show is so successful and so awesome that Comedy Central just leaves it alone.
I know that the Playboy radio on Sirius Radio, which is now, I think, Vivid Radio, they used to have, up to like a month ago, they had these rules that you weren't allowed to talk about incest, you weren't allowed to talk about drugs, including marijuana, you weren't allowed to talk about all this shit, and it's like, wait, this is Playboy radio, and you can't talk about marijuana?
If it wasn't for them, though, I would have never done this.
You know, and we'd never done it this way either.
Because every other show that I ever did, every other radio show that I ever did, was always like real structured.
Like you would go in there, they would have their bits, they would have their news guy that would interrupt every 15 minutes, they would do their traffic thing, they had all this stuff that you had to go through and do.
But when you do Opie and Anthony, you would just sit there and hang out with them.
It was just a loose, open, hang conversation.
And it was so much more fun to do that way.
And I remember doing it thinking, God damn, this is the way to do it.
Why don't they fucking do this on every radio show?
You know, and then when the restrictions came down and they had to be as generic and as politician-like as possible, you got this top 40 nonsense where you have people who talk like this.
Our next guest, you know, you're talking in some weird fake robot voice.
You're plugging into this system and doing, you know, what's expected of you and there's no individuality to it.
There's no uniqueness to it.
It's too restrictive an environment for creativity.
That's why when a guy like Howard Stern came along, it was just like he blew the roof off of the business because all of a sudden a guy came along that wasn't scared to take on controversial stances, to say outrageous shit, to say really funny things, and to try to entertain people in this really bold and crazy way.
But it was like, when he was new in a market, a radio guy was telling me that, like, if he came into a new market, the first thing he would always do is attack that guy's show so that, like, he was playing in a new city and the former number one show...
Would be being made fun of on Howard's show, so that listeners would be like, oh shit, he's making fun of this guy, and create that buzz in that new city, right?
It creates drama in the new city, and then people are either saying, you know what, he's right, this show is fucking lame that we've been listening to, or he would pull the people that were going to like him anyways from that new city, and then either it worked out or it didn't.
And so they would play these radio and pause them and just crush them and just go off on them for like 10 minutes and then come back to them and let them play some more and then crush them some more.
Yeah, which is one thing that I wanted to bring up.
We won the Stitcher Award for the best overall podcast.
And, you know, agree or disagree, that's all good.
But someone from some...
I'm not even going to bother mentioning because I think it was actually someone who was like one of the sound guys from the podcast told people to do this, told people to send some hate our way.
And I got all these fucking angry people on Twitter that were angry that this other show didn't win.
And, look, you know, first of all, I think contests are stupid, okay?
I'm glad that people like the show, but I don't give a fuck if we won a contest.
I think contests are dumb as fuck.
I've never asked to win a contest.
It's nice that people acknowledge that they enjoy it.
I like that.
But if you're going after someone else for winning something, and somehow or another, you know, you think it takes away from the show that you like, you're a fucking idiot.
And just reading it, it was like, this is so stupid.
You don't have to like a show, but if you're mad that your show didn't win and another show did, you're a fucking dunce to just go out and push a bunch of hate.
All that means is that the show that you represent, the show that you like...
It has a bunch of assholes for fans.
I don't know why that is.
I don't know who's responsible for that, but it's so unnecessary.
I mean, we live in 2014. We, on this podcast especially, As a rule, support other people.
As a rule.
I'm constantly telling people about other podcasts that I love, whether it's Hardcore History with Dan Carlin or whether it's Danielle Belele, Danielle Belele's podcast or Tom Segura's podcast or whether it's anybody, Joey Diaz, Ari Shafir, we constantly promote people's podcasts when they come on.
When Cara Santa Maria was on here the other day, I was telling her, start a podcast.
If there's someone out there that wins some Stitcher Award or some iTunes Award or something like that and we didn't, I'll listen to it because I want to know if it's good.
Maybe I'll find it enjoyable and it'll be something I can listen to on a plane sometime and have a good time.
Well, he had him in a north-south choke, too, for a while.
He burnt his arm out in the first round because he was trying to choke him out with that north-south choke.
So he had him on the ground, had a dominant position, had a choke, couldn't finish the choke, and then they got up and were fucking slinging knuckles at each other.
Man, yeah.
It was one of the wildest, most aggressive fights.
The way I described it, those punches were like, what did you say about my mother punches?
I love that it's growing and expanding and that you have these shows now and all these people know all the stuff that you guys talk about on a regular basis so they're really into it.
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Thank you everybody who came to New York this weekend.
We had a great fucking time.
It couldn't have been a nicer crowd.
You guys were cool as fuck.
And even though over 1,000 people had to get upstairs through two elevators, we mentioned at the beginning of the show that we're going to start late because of that.
And everybody cheered and they were happy.
And we got everybody seated before the show started.
I can't thank you guys enough.
It's a real honor having people that are so nice and so cool come to our shows.
I don't know how it happened, but we're going to make sure that we continue to try to nurture this.
All right, we'll be back tomorrow with Justin Martindale.
And Friday with Cameron Hayes, a famous bow hunter.
And then it looks like we might do Saturday with Pete Dominick, who's a very funny stand-up.
And sometimes he's on CNN, and he's also got a great show on Sirius XM as well.