Dr. Mark Gordon reveals how Ting’s no-contract Sprint network and Hover’s domain tools save users money, then dives into glutathione’s role in combating alcohol toxicity—citing a case where sublingual use prevented intoxication—while debunking myths like marijuana-induced laziness. He exposes China’s demographic crisis (one-child policy, gender imbalance) and links TBI-related hormone crashes—affecting 48% of head trauma victims—to depression, paranoia, and even suicide, like the 2012 military PTSD crisis (364 cases). Rogan’s thyroid deficiency (gaining 36 lbs at 9-10% body fat) highlights flawed hormone studies, while Gordon warns genetic meddling could backfire, referencing HIV’s possible lab origins and Homeland Security’s sniper ammo stockpiles. The episode ends with Rogan’s TBI Medical Legal grants, offering $2,200 testing for athletes and veterans, proving hormone balance often reverses chronic brain damage—challenging both medical dogma and reckless high-impact sports. [Automatically generated summary]
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Alright, you fucks.
Dr. Mark Gordon is here, and we're going to learn some shit about life.
This, ladies and gentlemen, this is my friend Dr. Mark Gordon, and Mark Gordon is, you're not just a doctor, you're a fascinating dude, and when I first met you, one of the first things I said was like, this motherfucker needs his own podcast, because you can just talk.
Nobody can spit out information.
I've never, I've been alive for 46 years, never met a guy who can spit out as much impressive information as you that quickly when it comes to, like, the body.
Every time I talk to you, I wish I had like a notebook or I wish I was recording it.
I always try to remember as much as possible, and you've given me some great advice as far as health and fitness and exercise and all sorts of different things that you know about, but I always walk away from every conversation and go, I know I forgot something.
I know I didn't remember something.
Like the last time we were talking, you were telling me about some shit that helps your liver after you drink and you take this...
Well, it helps you with just about anything that the liver is responsible for digesting or metabolizing.
As you metabolize certain drugs, chemicals, and so forth, the liver uses up its ability to continue the process, so it spills over into the blood, and that's how you get, you know, drunk, because your liver can only deal with a certain amount.
So if you replenish or replace the glutathione in the liver, you get incredible benefits of it.
Not only does it help with metabolism, but it's an incredible antioxidant for the brain and for the eyes and for the heart.
Well, it's three amino acids that they put together.
And the products that we interact with are...
It's a delivery technology where you wrap the vitamins or you wrap the supplement in what's called a liposome, which is like a cell wall.
It's from lecithin.
It's from soy.
And it protects whatever it is that you're ingesting because a lot of the things that you take, like I think I shared with you, if you take a thousand milligrams of vitamin C by mouth, you only absorb nineteen percent.
The rest of it's destroyed by the acid that's in the stomach.
But if you wrap it in this protection called the liposome, you'll be able to absorb ninety-three percent.
So taking something like glutathione, which normally when you take it in its Natural form, it's destroyed.
Most of it is destroyed and then absorbed and then remanufactured in the blood.
But if you wrap it in this protective outer coating, a liposome, you can absorb it more readily.
And the effects are unbelievably positive.
For instance, a gentleman who went out drinking three highballs and five shots of tequila went home and subsequently was very dizzy, nauseous.
He forgot that I gave him a sample of this glutathione.
And he used four puffs under the tongue, held it for 30 seconds, and then 30 minutes later, clears the bell, woke up the next day, went out partying again, couldn't get drunk.
You know, for years, I take the kids to Mexico every year, and I take a bottle of scotch with me, and I sit and read a book and drink the scotch over a period of a couple hours, and I turn the bottles empty, my kids go and get me some mojitos, and I continue drinking.
I don't get drunk.
It turned out that one of the products that I was taking had a very high amount of reduced glutathione in it.
So when I got exposed to the glutathione world, which was just last year with Dr. Christopher Shade, who's one of the gurus in the area of glutathione technology and absorption, he introduced it to me and it made sense, reading the literature on how it functions in the liver.
So anyway, alcohol has a couple of things that it does.
Alcohol is a sugar.
So what happens is it causes your blood sugar to go up and then drop because insulin is turned on and you become irritable because you need sugar to run the brain.
I think what's even worse is the fact that they've restricted marijuana use for so many years when you look at the stats on people who cause accidents.
And it makes you just want to sit on the couch and eat chips.
That's what Nancy Grace says.
She needs weed so bad, that poor sweetie.
She needs a pot cookie.
Just one of those pot cookies that makes you just go, oh, why was I fighting this?
Well, someone would rub her feet.
If she could just sit back on a really comfy couch after a pot cookie and some dude who was really good at it rubbed her feet, she'd be like, why was I saying that this is bad?
Foolishly ignorant as to the consequences of what she's saying.
Because people are just going to, if you really believe what you're saying, you're doing it in such a foolish way that people are going to immediately discredit the message because it's coming from you.
It's just the fear of having somebody come and find your little collective that you and your buddies have set up on some little piece of property somewhere.
It's a fascinating thing, isn't it, how these nations look at each other over time?
You know, sort of the character of the nation sort of shifts back and forth, and now China...
The character has become, instead of one of just total communism, of this rampant capitalism.
This new feeling of China being like, you know, producing literally every fucking cell phone known to man, except for the Samsung ones, which are made in Korea.
The slight variation is if you came from a single-parent household, if you were an only child, if you were an only child, either the male or the female was an only child, you were allowed to have more than one kid.
Then you can have two.
It's not much of a change.
It's not, like, unlimited.
It's still, like, they're really trying to restrict...
They have too many people.
I mean, they know it, everybody knows it, and it's craziness.
And so their solution was to only have men, which is a crazy fucking solution.
I mean, then you have, like, this crazy setup where 70-plus percent of the people are men, and the men are lonely and sad, and they can't find women, and they have this...
Real despair because they might not ever be able to find a woman.
21 million between now and 2020. There'll be 21 million people, and they predict there'll be someplace between 6 to 10 million coming just to California.
There, you know, the China and the black market for organs, Middle East for organs and children.
I mean, these aren't my favorite topics to go through.
I read about it because I am across an international marketplace.
And it's extremely scary, you know, with three daughters and having to look at that one can be pulled off the street, you know, and sold as in slavery, which is very, very common.
You see all the cases that have been coming up with Middle East and with China.
Because, I mean, without a doubt, any of those stories about gang rape in India, they're horrible and disgusting and terrifying.
I think the reason why we're hearing about so many crimes from there, though, is that we can't even realize what it's like to have an extra, like what we have now, plus an extra 700 million crimes.
Like, that's out of control.
And, you know, that might be the problem in itself.
This insane psycho behavior might be that there's so many people that when it gets to that level, the life just gets devalued.
When we look at California with the expansive horizons that we have in Texas and Alaska, I mean, we're very blessed to have these beautiful places that, you know, my fear is that we have so many people coming in that it starts crowding us.
In the cities, we're already having the crowding.
Chicago, New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco, San Diego.
So you have to look for bumfuck Iowa or Coeur d'Alene.
Since, you know, GMO has been around, we've been seeing an increase in celiac disease.
We've been seeing autoimmune diseases like lupus.
The article's now starting to confirm what we thought, that there is an association with gluten From breads, from grains, and lupus and rheumatoid arthritis and Hashimoto's, which are all names for diseases that create inflammation and start, you know, destroying our own cells, our own tissue, our bones, rheumatoid arthritis.
And there are articles now coming out showing that there's this relationship to it.
And then you look back of when GMO started with Monsanto and some of the other companies, and you start seeing the trend, the increase in these diseases.
Why didn't we have these diseases in the past, like autism?
Why is autism at such an incredible level, what is it, 1 to 20, 1 to 50, when it used to be 1 to 400?
Is it relative to the immunizations?
We went from, you know, a small amount of immunizations.
Now we're giving, what, 30 in a year to the kids between, you know, up to five years?
I don't remember really what the numbers are.
I stopped pediatrics years ago.
But when you inject all these inflammatory chemicals, I mean, that's what happens when you do an immunization.
You start talking about, oh, he's one of those anti-immunization guys.
But if you realize the statistics, if you start looking at the statistics for the vaccine court, what vaccine court has had to pay out, they've had to pay out numerous large settlements with people, millions and millions and millions of dollars, because they connected the immunization shots to their kids getting autism.
Well, one of the recent ones for adult females or adolescent females is a product for HPV, human papillomavirus, which can cause cervical cancer.
It's a product called Garnicel.
And there are reported cases of healthy women who get the Garnicel and end up with problems with their brain.
And the issue is, you know, from the young and also for adults, Any age really is the protection that our body has is this wall, this barrier called the blood-brain barrier that stops things that are caustic and harmful to our brain from getting in.
It doesn't fully develop to maybe five years of age in the average child.
So when you're giving an overwhelming amount of inflammatory...
It creates an immune response, and it goes into the brain.
Well, it passes that inflammatory process into the brain, and that's probably, and they'll deny it, you know, part of the reason why it happens.
They were talking about the theol, which is mercury that used to be in or is still in some of the immunizations.
They thought it was mercury toxicity, and, you know, my partner in This is all scientific fact, right?
And that alone, there's the people that are automatically dismissing you right now.
And I'm sure there are a bunch.
And me as well.
And they should dismiss me because I'm a fucking idiot and I don't know what I'm talking about.
I'm just repeating a bunch of words that I've read online.
Dismiss me away, please.
But recognize that this is not as cut and dry as you think.
And it's not that immunizations are bad.
Everybody wants to say, oh, someone's anti-vaccine.
Oh, she's causing the deaths of thousands because she doesn't endorse giving babies vaccines.
No, that's not the case.
But what the case is, is you've got to realize it's a fucking chemical.
And the idea that just shooting a foreign chemical into a baby is totally safe.
Like, are you sure?
Are you fucking sure how the little baby body is gonna react to a needle being shoved into it and you inject some man-made chemicals that just might have mercury in them?
Vaccines are the reason why there's a million things, like mumps, which is actually starting to make a comeback because people are not vaccinating their kids for mumps and measles, you know?
So it's not entirely good to not vaccinate either.
It's good.
It's just it needs to be done at the right time probably.
And we need to figure out why there's so many of them.
I mean, are they all necessary?
Are we sure that that's a good idea?
And I don't think there's any way to do it until they clone fake people, headless people, or use them as prisoners.
Prisoners.
That's what they should do.
Give them vaccines.
But you can't do that because you've got to test them on babies.
You need to make fake babies.
It's the only way to do it.
But then there would be a lot of people that are convinced that they've made a real baby.
Because it would have to be so perfect in order for my experiments to work.
It's like one of those CSI shows, but it's all about fake babies.
Yeah, man, I think that a lot of people want an either or in that case, and I'm glad that you have the courage to talk about that because you know as well as I know that it's such a hot topic that immediately even discussing the possibility that occasionally there could be problems when you inject kids Correct.
People assume you're like a 9-11 truther.
You believe the towers were broken down by thermite.
You find out how much money is in vaccination, like, that much?
First of all, why does it cost that much?
Why are you making that much money?
And second of all, does that have anything to do with why they give so many vaccinations?
Is that possible?
And if you think it could be, if you think that people are sneaky and slimy enough that that could be, it has to be something that we all take into consideration.
It doesn't mean that you're a nutter.
That seems like a writing on the wall kind of a thing.
I'll give you an example that you might have heard last week.
The company came out with a new drug for hepatitis C. Hepatitis C is a chronic process, a viral infection.
We don't really have very good treatment for it.
They use alpha interferon.
It doesn't work that well.
They came out with a drug, one capsule a day for 84 days.
It costs $1,000 a tablet.
It cost them $2 billion to get it to where it is right now.
There are 4.1 million people in the United States with hepatitis C. It'll only take 250,000 to pay off everything, and they've got 4.1 million people with hepatitis C. So the argument is, why doesn't the company lower the cost for it so it'll make it more available to more people?
Because they have, you know, a program for hardship cases, and the CEO was on this radio program that I was listening to, and he says it's not our model to lower the price.
I mean, it's hard to say, well, how can I say that, you know, your shit costs too much, your pills cost too much, when maybe I'm not willing to work for less either.
And everybody goes, ah, we'll just leave it alone.
High-end could be, you know, 10, 15 years on the short, which is the fast track that they have with the FDA. It's three years.
And the only problem with that, if you look the past 5, 10 years, the drugs that went through the fast track, there were a number of them that were taken off the market because of the side effects that they didn't see in the first three years.
Well, they were there.
There was one drug that was for a form of leukemia that was just taken off the market where it caused your blood vessels in your limbs to shut down so your leg would lose, ischemia is the term, lose blood supply so it would go dead and they'd have to amputate your limb.
You know, they still haven't figured out how Neanderthal jumped all the way up to, you know, Homo erectus, Homo habilicus, and Homo sapien.
And the distinction was the frontal cortex or the neocortex, the new brain part, which is how we get our language skills and we get our thought processes and integration of our emotion and, you know, control frontal lobes with command and executive functions.
And, you know, they're still looking for that missing link.
Yeah, but what they're saying is that primates, yes, sort of for people like, I mean, they were very, very, very primitive, but they lived as recently as 10,000, 15,000 years ago.
So if 10,000, 15,000 years ago, humans were in this exact form, and we were dealing with these weird little chimp people like this, look at these things.
Like, they have the various forms of humans.
That little tiny thing, that's it.
That's the Homo floreensis.
Jamie, see if you can pull up a better picture of it, because there's some interesting drawings that they did, like individual ones, like one of the ones you showed earlier.
But this Hobbit person thing, I mean, this absolutely, without doubt, walked alongside with people.
So if you see that person there, and...
Well, that guy's yoked.
Who is that guy?
That guy looks like Gleason Tebow.
Look at him, he's stacked.
But that's a rare person.
Don't compare that size.
But the little Hobbit guy right next to him...
It's really fascinating stuff, man.
So that means that all those stories that the Indonesian people would tell, and there's like the Orang Pendek that jungle people say is still alive.
They still think there's a small population of these things that still exist.
And they call it the Orang Pendek.
It's a little chimp-like tiny person that lives in the forest.
It's fucking crazy, man.
If there was a small amount of those people that are still actually left, living in some crazy rainforest somewhere, that's not outside the realm of possibility.
Much more likely than Bigfoot.
That there's this little hobbit man that's still alive.
Because that was always the legend.
And when they found this in the island of Flores, they're like, holy shit.
So what other stuff do you think, besides this glutathione, what other stuff do you think that people should be taking on a regular basis that they're not?
And one of the ones that the federal government talked about back in the late 90s was C. Everett Koop talked about it, in fact, was chromium.
Chromium is an anti-diabetic because it helps insulin work better in your body.
It's called the glucose tolerance factor, chromium.
And we found that because of our farming technology that we haven't been burning the leftover crop to get the ash, potash, back into the soil, that we're losing a lot of the minerals.
Everything we get is filtered, so we lose all the trace magnesium, molybdenum, All the trace elements that we need for very important chemical pathways in our body.
So we're running around with a deficiency of function.
And the only way to improve upon that function is to replenish minerals.
And you can get trace minerals.
I mean, it doesn't really matter where you get it as long as it's a high-quality, bioavailable kind of product.
There are a lot of minerals that you can't absorb because they're cheap, sulfated ones.
Getting the citrate is a lot better.
The glucorate and the fumarate are much better forms of whether or not it's zinc or magnesium or so forth.
If they're artificial, you know, they're making it to...
They're suspending it so that it's easily absorbed.
There's a cistern in New Zealand where it's about a 50-million-year-old cistern, which has a blend From erosion from the walls of the cistern with natural water, clean, fresh water.
And it has a balance in it which gives your water a pH of 8. I don't want to really get into the thing about acid-base kind of chemistry.
Well, it shouldn't because in my medical training, I don't see, you know, in my training, I've been in practice 32 years and had, you know, 13 and a half years of training with a year and a half of research.
It shouldn't happen, but it is happening.
So when you go back and you look at the fringe science, you start realizing that on the fringe, it hasn't come full cycle into the core of our belief system that the products have a means, alkaline water has a means by which it changes the acid base of our body, and our body does much better in alkaline situations.
Inflammation.
If your body is acidic, more inflammatory diseases occur.
But you can't prove it.
It's supposition.
It's, you know, speculation.
We don't have enough hard documentation to prove it.
And there's a lot of resistance to develop that hard scientific information right now.
And with everything that's on the fringe, everything that's new that comes into medicine, there's a lot of resistance.
Our cycle in medicine is about 30 years.
Because you've got 30 years, doctors who are in practice for 30 years who control everything.
And that's old school.
The stuff that I used to work on was 20 years old.
Doctors nowadays, I mean, I interact with training doctors.
And the information that they're running their practices on is so antiquated.
It's like, doctors still think that testosterone causes prostate cancer.
And there's not a single shred of evidence that proves it.
One of our docs from Harvard, Dr. Abraham Morgenthaler, wrote the book, Testosterone for Life, where he spends his academic life at Harvard and in Boston proving that there's nothing to substantiate that testosterone causes cancer.
You know, there's genetic predisposition for it and there's also thermal temperature.
There's an increased occurrence in men who have had what they call cryptorchism.
Crypto is hidden testicle, where they haven't had descendant testicles.
So if their pediatrician was on time and gave them a shot of HCG, which caused the testicle to drop, then it drops out of the 98-degree temperature that the testicle isn't made to function in.
That's why it hangs out in our testicular, in our ball sack.
No, if a male has low sperm count and he wants to get his wife knocked up, they'll try with growth hormone, testosterone, zinc, and other ways of trying to stimulate increase in the sperm count.
But if they're not producing sperm for whatever reason, they can take a needle, put it in, and...
It's like they don't want to say black people, but they can say urban, and it means the exact same thing, and somehow or another people just let it slide.
Yeah, in the porn industry they use a chemical which in fact comes from a woman, PGE, which is prostaglandin E, and they inject it in the base of the penis and it makes them have an erection that lasts for like two to four hours like a baseball bat.
But it makes sense that a woman would have something in her body where the smell of it actually gives a guy an erection, because that absolutely works.
They didn't see them, but they had the shirts from these guys.
So they smelled the shirt to smell the perspiration that was on it.
And what happened almost 100% of the time was they were able to pick the guy that was healthy, that was physically active, that produced this pure pussy perspiration.
And they found that it was guys that were healthy that didn't have any medical conditions.
So women can sense through the pheromones or the pheromones transmit understanding about the condition of the person.
They picked the guys that were fat.
They picked the guys that were healthy.
So she took the chemicals or the synthesized the stuff that they found in the healthy guys, and that's her pheromone.
I mean, if we know that pheromones exist and you know that when you're, like, really attracted to someone, the intensity, like, when you're touching them and just being near them, it, like...
It turns on something, and it absolutely could be pheromonal as well, as physical, as well as pleasure-based and sensitivity.
Right, but I think that the pheromones really set you up for everything.
Looking at, you know, in...
Neuroendocrinology, which is the way hormones work in the brain, which is what I spend most of my time doing.
Pheromones trigger pleasurable centers in the brain.
You know, we have centers in a libido area, which is another way of saying the sex area of the brain.
We have an area that's stimulated by not just testosterone, but estradiol in a recent article that came out of JAMA three, four months ago, and Dr. Abraham Morgenthau was on the news talking about it on Good Morning America or something.
And men need estradiol in order to have a fully functioning sexual mindset.
When we were talking about different things that you do, one of the things that I didn't mention is that you're one of the, I don't want to say a pioneer, but one of the more prominent guys when it comes to understanding the effects of traumatic brain injuries and working with guys, working with boxers, and working with various athletes that have suffered.
I know you've worked with a lot of people that I know.
You know, I've been practicing hormonal modulation therapy since about 1995 and I myself was not feeling so great between the age of 34 and 46. In fact, I was on antidepressant and obese, losing my hair and just not a very happy camper.
So I went to a company in Las Vegas and paid him a lot of money in 97 and was diagnosed with having three hormone deficiencies, growth hormone, testosterone and thyroid.
And just thinking it was genetic, ended up going on to replenishment treatment.
And in my practice, I had started shifting over to hormone modulation that they used to call what they call anti-aging medicine.
I turned the coin called interventional endocrinology because I don't think the term anti-aging in medicine is a proper term.
For the general masses, it's a great buzzword to get an understanding of what we do in the area of interventional endocrinology.
So treating a lot of people with hormone deficiency.
In 2004, I'm reading an article out of Turkey about pugilists, boxers, where they had this uncanny high occurrence of growth hormone deficiency.
And that I call my epiphany article.
I read that and ah, it all made sense.
Head trauma creates a situation that leads to hormonal deficiency.
So I went back to my population from 1995 to 2004 and started interviewing them again to see who had had accidents.
And almost every single person had a very clear-cut motor vehicle accident.
In the first book that I wrote, Interventional Endocrinology, Chapter 5 talks about A 17-year-old kid who came to me at 21 with significant mood change, depression, anxiety, isolation.
He couldn't gain weight.
Turned out he was hormone deficient.
And when he was 21 years of age, I go back to him and find out that he had a motorcycle accident and was in a coma for three days.
Motor vehicle accidents, slip and falls, blunt head trauma, assaults that have had developed hormonal deficiency.
And you can develop the hormonal deficiency because the head trauma can interrupt areas of the brain that regulate hormone production by the pituitary called the master gland in the brain.
There's a regulatory sensor that tests the blood every Microsecond to see if there's a balance of growth hormone, testosterone, estrogen, and all the hormones in our body.
And if there's a deficiency of it, it sends a signal to the master gland, the pituitary, to tell it to increase the production of whatever hormone it perceives as being deficient or low.
On the other hand, if it's too high, the same area of the brain called the hypothalamus tells the pituitary to shut down or decrease the production of hormone.
So if you're making not enough growth hormone or not enough IGF-1, which is the marker for growth hormone, it'll tell the brain to produce more growth hormone.
And the same thing with testosterone.
So I started looking at this area since 2004, and the literature was just starting to burgeon with a lot of documentation research that had been done Showing that people who have head trauma have testosterone deficiency number one, growth hormone deficiency number two, thyroid number three, cortisol, which is the adaptive kind of hormone, the stress hormone.
And I had one, two, and three.
I had growth hormone deficiency, testosterone deficiency, and thyroid deficiency.
And in 2007, I had been seeing a lot of people, retired NFL football and rugby and a lot of sports players and boxers like, I can say, James Toney.
And they were documented as having hormone deficiency and we went on to ESPN Outside the Line in 2007 and showed their lab results and they talked about how much better they felt when they had their hormones returned to normal levels.
Replaced to physiological levels.
Not bodybuilder levels, but physiological levels.
Which is like 60 milligrams a week versus something like, I hear, up to 400 milligrams a week.
Yeah, that's something that people really need to...
It's something that people need to understand that if you look at what a bodybuilder is...
That's impossible without ridiculous, insane numbers of chemicals that you shoot into your body.
It literally is impossible.
And I think people have a bad taste in their mouth or a bad idea about the idea of testosterone because they think, well, if you take testosterone, you're taking a steroid and you're going to become a big giant monster person.
Like, you can't become a big giant monster person unless you're fucking dedicated to crushing your body.
So, in the beginning, it was the hormone deficiency and not feeling as...
Able, psychologically, physiologically, and physical.
Diabetes increased, and we're now seeing out of the literature, starting in 2000, that if you're low in free testosterone and 50-year-old male and above, now 50-year-old female and above, you have a higher occurrence of diabetes.
So testosterone serves an incredible function, also pain.
We found that testosterone also stops inflammation.
So people who have joint aches and pains, they go away when they replace your testosterone level.
Growth hormone and cognitive function.
The real bottom line is we know that head trauma causes hormonal deficiency.
We know that hormonal deficiency is associated with depression, anxiety, and all those suicides that we're seeing in the NFL and in the military.
In 2012, there were more, there were 364, almost one a day, 64, people in the military who committed suicide.
They all had PST, you know, post-traumatic stress syndrome, which is just another form of TBI, traumatic brain injury.
Yeah, it was documented by the DOD. But, you know, so the issue is that we do great at diagnosing traumatic brain injury.
There are CTs, our PET scans, all these high-tech things, but we fail at treatment.
The reason why we fail at treatment is because we haven't put a good composite together of laboratory testing for traumatic brain injury.
So what we've developed over the past 10 years is this testing to allow for someone to have their hormones checked To determine if there's a brain source for the deficiency or if the gland, like, you know, the testicles are gone.
Of course, you're not going to make testosterone.
But if you have healthy young testicles, you should have a chemical in the brain that's directing them to produce testosterone.
Well, here comes the big question, if this is all the case.
If traumatic brain injuries and concussions and whatnot are causing this decline in the function and...
The operation of glands in the body that produce hormones.
Should the people who take that stuff be allowed to continue whatever they've done that's made them deficient of all these hormones?
So the argument is, like, there's a big issue, I'm sure you know, about it in mixed martial arts.
And the big issue in mixed martial arts is testosterone replacement therapy.
That a lot of these guys are legitimately showing up where they test low enough where doctors prescribe them testosterone.
So the question is, they need this when they're young for one of two reasons, right?
Either there's a medical issue, like they could have taken steroids and the steroids could have shut their balls down, or if it's not that, they could have a disease that lowers their testosterone, or if it's not that, it's head trauma.
If it is head trauma and their business is head trauma, should they still be engaging in head trauma?
So, if you were, like, say if they had you running the Nevada State Athletic Commission, if you were the guy that had to oversee boxers and mixed martial arts fighters, if they came to you low with testosterone, you would say, well, we're going to get you some testosterone, but...
There was University of St. Louis, I think, just got another $8 million grant to do DTI, fMRI, And one other study of the brain, which are very definitive for showing deficiency of blood flow from head trauma.
You can have areas of the brain lose their blood supply.
You can have nerve damage.
I've got some great pictures I'll send you where you can actually see the severing of the nerves that connect the frontal lobe to the cortex.
So you lose...
Decision-making, the ability to do more than one thing at once, multi-taxing.
We have evoked potential, which is like an EEG of the brain where it follows.
You're sitting in front of a computer reading, you're looking at flashing lights, you're looking at things, and it causes electrical patterns in the brain.
And there are, quote, normal electrical patterns, and then there's abnormal.
The abnormals correlate with different areas of the brain because you've got this net over your head and it's sensing it.
It's being used in the military right now by Dr. David Hauger.
You guys, in studying all this stuff, exposed a really sort of a dirty secret in the NFL, in the world of boxing.
For a long time, people were able to look at damage that was caused by athletes, whether it's a boxer being punched drunk, and they looked at it almost with a willful ignorance.
They're like, oh, you know, I guess you stayed around too long, you know, and so...
No one touches it.
No one describes it.
It becomes pugilistic of dementia, and then that's it, and the guy just fades away.
When you start talking about this as a very real cause and effect, how much blowback is there from that?
Is that what happens when it comes to certain businesses like football players or football teams or hockey teams or something where people take a lot of impact?
With what you're telling me, I would think the Canadians absolutely would come down to the States where it was a little bit more civilized in the brawling.
I mean, they hit each other full clip while they're running, but they rarely kick each other's asses.
It seems like you should totally be allowed to kick each other's asses in football, but they don't allow it because it would be too brutal.
Because you look at the size of some of these guys, they took their helmets off and beat the fuck out of each other in the middle of the field, and 80,000 people go, rawr!
It's too gangster, even for America.
So football players are not allowed to fight.
That's a pretty interesting thing, if you really stop and think about, like, it's just something we culturally accept as being a rule, but it makes no sense that hockey players are allowed to fight, but football players aren't.
That's so stupid.
That's a really dumb rule.
If they both play in the same country, this is retarded.
You would realize that you can't just run into each other.
That's so preposterous.
You think you could just crash into each other and everybody's gonna be fine.
Like, that's a recipe for danger.
That's a recipe for disaster, just running at each other full clip.
But if you force people in a situation where they were bare head, bare head to head, the idea of colliding with another person's head does not seem that cool.
Now, when you see the science that goes behind the athletic commissions where they have to do certain tests for drugs and do certain tests for various performance enhancing substances, do you think that they should be testing people's free testosterone?
They should be making sure that people are healthy enough to compete?
And, you know, a lot of the French Open people have, some of them have been nailed because they get tested.
Look what happened to James Toney after fighting Jose in Madison Square Garden.
They tested him and they found that his, they said deca, nandrolone teconate, which is a form of testosterone, was 13 and the cutoff was 9. But the testing that they do doesn't detect the drug directly.
But when you see something like the Tour de France specifically, I have heard that the numbers that they achieve in the Tour de France are literally impossible unless you're taking drugs.
Blood doping is very common where they take their blood out and they put it back in.
Rithropoietin used to be very heavily used, which stimulates your body to produce more red blood cells.
Growth hormone was great.
Provigil was great.
I know because in reading some of the documents that come to me to evaluate cases, you know, a lot of things were being used to enhance their capabilities.
Things like DHEA, Mark McGuire, you know, I only used Androstenedione.
Right.
Now IOC, the International Olympic Committee, doesn't allow for us to use or for the client patients to use DHEA, which comes from Mexican wild yams, natural source phytohormones.
Don't let them use pregnenolone.
Don't let them use androstenedione, which is now off the market.
You can't have androstenedione because it only takes one chemical reaction to make it into testosterone.
Terus tribulus, which is a plant-based testosterone natural, that's banned.
You have to get three cardinals and the Pope to sign off on you for asthma to use some of the rescue inhalers because they can give you a great energy surge.
It's such a good point that you were making about that vitamins should be illegal, that food should be illegal, healthy nutritional supplements should be illegal, because they all make you perform better.
So, at what point in time are we going to have something, like, what we're dealing with now is like they're injecting steroids and they're doing hormones, but when they start getting into genetic engineering of human beings, like, at what point in time are athletics going to be even valid anymore?
If you're engineering super people, Is there going to come a point in time, do you think?
I mean, you're a scientist, you're a doctor, you're a smart dude.
When you're looking at the future of human enhancement, and not just on a chemical level or hormonal level, like you're educated in, but when you look at it on a technological level.
Well, they're developing an artificial skin that they're trying to create that's mixed with spider silk.
So it becomes literally bulletproof.
You'd have bulletproof skin.
Giant, huge Hulk dudes.
You tell me some guys in Nebraska, sitting on a farm, thinking about going over to Iraq and kicking some ass, and they go, listen man, I'm thinking about doing the Hulk program.
Man, you know that shit's permanent.
Hey man, so I'm a Hulk forever.
Whatever, I'll be bulletproof.
Fuck it.
If they offer that to soldiers, we're going to have a real problem on our hands.
Do you worry, though, that there is going to come a point in time where there's not going to be natural humans?
Or do you think it's exciting?
Do you think that it could be in some way dangerous that we genetically engineer human beings to live to be a thousand years old and be able to jump over buildings?
Yeah, there's a higher oxygen concentration and that they were able to move through the atmosphere more easily because their considerable bulk would have been not so much of an impediment to movement with this different atmosphere.
I was listening to something on the way over here where it was a discussion of the Peruvian rainforest and their collection of rubber in the early 1900s and how this population of indigenous people went from 45,000 down to 3,500 in little over five, six years.
They made these people go out and collect rubber for them and they gave them a quota that they had to reach and every Ounce that they were under that quota, they would take out in human flesh.
So they would chop people's arms off or put them on a scale.
They slaughtered these people and scared the fuck out of them.
They're the same sort of techniques that Cortes used on the Aztecs way, way back in the day.
So it's literally the same sort of practice, but it happened in the early 1900s.
Terrifying shit.
The amount of, like, evil shit that goes on in the rainforest.
They just chop it down.
Make a profit.
Chop it down.
There's plenty of it.
Keep going.
Until one day they're going to get to a point in time where they realize they just hacked down a hundred million thousand-year-old trees, and it's going to take a thousand years for them to grow back, and now we're fucked.
And all the medicinal things that we're losing because they say there are species of plants and animals, insects and bugs and so forth that have been decimated, removed off the planet, extinct.
They're doing research on it to try to convert it into a Viagra-type medication because the sting of the wandering spider injects a type of venom that causes you to have...
Insanely painful erection, and if you survive, which a lot of people don't, it's a very toxic spider, but if you do survive, your penis will be broken forever.
It'll never work again.
That it somehow or another interacts with your body's production of nitric oxide, and it just over floods your system with it, and your whole body goes into this incredibly painful, shocking state of muscle contraction, including your...
If you just give them a bottle of this crazy Brazilian wandering spider dick pill and they take that shit home, they're just going to suck down the whole bottle.
Do you think that the social stigma that's attached to people cheating in sports and steroids that keeps people from exploring the idea of hormonal replacement, there seems to be a stigma behind it, like the idea of taking testosterone or whatever the fuck you're taking, growth hormone.
I think it's a medical issue where the medical community as a whole has taken this position of demonizing Testosterone and growth hormone and all the hormone and also saying that they don't really need to be replaced.
7,000 articles in my library on this new book that I'm working on for head trauma, where almost every single one has a positive statement to make about how it improves mental functioning, how it improves depression, anxiety, and how it improves personal interactions, sexual drive, physical stamina, and so forth and so on.
And you get a number of articles that come out to refute it.
Because it just doesn't fit in the social, cultural design that is being made for us.
Well, if you really read close, their scientific study, like the one that came out recently, you probably saw.
It was in, I think, New England Journal of Medicine, or the JAMA. Where it said that people who take testosterone after they've had a cardiovascular event, heart attack or something, or had a stint put in or had open heart surgery, that they die at a couple of percents greater than the people who don't use it.
But if you looked at the study, it was a flawed study.
It was a floss study, and it was spun so that it would put more fear into people about testosterone.
We don't ever want to think that companies would compete knowing that the result would be that you might take something effective out of the market just because you're trying to profit, but people could benefit from it.
There's a lot of reluctance to talk about ProVigil and NuVigil.
In fact, I had a guy that's from MAPS, the multidisciplinary psychedelic studies group, wasn't going to tell the audience that he was on ProVigil while the show was on.
I was like, why would you hide that?
He's like, well, it just seems like...
He goes, I flew here.
I was very tired.
I go, it's a totally legitimate reason to take it.
And it's not a bad thing.
You're obviously not, it's not like you're drunk.
It's not like you're out of control.
You're functioning totally normally.
Like, why be ashamed?
And he wasn't really ashamed, but he was a bit concerned about the, like, people would not take him seriously.
Oh, the guy wasn't even sober when he was on the show.
You know, oh, that's what it is.
You're doing scientific studies.
You're not just using it as an excuse or a crutch.
So he was a little bit reluctant, which I thought was really fascinating.
You know, I... Restricted my own license, my own prescribing license.
So I only do Class 3. You know, they have Class 1, you know, heroin and Quaaludes and whatever else.
And two is Adderall.
And I restricted my license.
I had so many people coming in thinking that they can just get Adderall because they're asking for it.
And I'm very, very strict on how I dispense stuff.
I try not to dispense any medications that I don't absolutely have to.
And I find that a lot of times that when you correct the underlying hormone deficiencies that the person gets better, their cognition, their energy level improves.
In fact, in traumatic brain injury, the number one symptom across all the studies is fatigue.
And the minute you correct their hormones, the fatigue's gone.
I had, you know, initially a lot of people coming in from the military.
The military likes using things like Adderall and ProVigil and NuVigil.
NuVigil and ProVigil, they work very well without causing a lot of side effects, but methamphetamine, the silliest thing that I have is patients who come in on a multitude of anti-psychotic drugs like antidepressants and so forth, and because they're on so much to control how bad they feel, They're fatigued and so the doctors counters it with Adderall and then adds another drug because they can't sleep at night called Tracodon so they can sleep.
Is there ever going to come a point in time where they can engineer the perfect blend and you take something and everything just works perfect?
I mean and if we're enhancing our bodies in any way with new chemicals and new medical innovation Do you think there's going to be, I mean, maybe this is just, they're just not that good at it yet, but one day they're going to have this one pill and you take it and boom!
I think there'll be one pill for people like you and one pill for people like me because we're so genetically diverse and biochemically diverse that it would be nice to have one pill fits all, but that's...
You know, they're working on a, I don't know if you remember, I think it was Star Trek No.
2 with Bones is walking through the hospital in San Francisco and he hands a pill to a woman who's getting ready to have a renal kidney transplant and she takes it.
And our kidneys start functioning again.
We're going to be finding medications that turn the genetic code on for different areas.
And that's why I was asking about your genetics being tested.
We have products that are being studied to turn on the genetic matrix.
And we have others that stimulate what they call epigenetics.
It's not the genes, but it's the things that control the genes.
Well, rage was the stuff that they'd given the chimpanzee.
Oh, look at that.
God damn, that's a woman.
That shit makes me nervous.
Women like that make me nervous, man.
I know, man.
I'm too stupid to be around someone like that.
So that was in the movie 28 Days Later, that rage.
They had given it to these chimpanzees and they had developed some sort of a genetic disease, some creation, an artificial disease, and it got out and turned everybody into savages.
And it's not like we don't have massive amounts of examples of terrible situations when it comes to like animal life and like spiders and...
Tigers in Africa or tigers in Asia and lions in Africa.
There's plenty of examples of horrific hells on earth if you happen to be in them.
And if you're an antelope and you're running around and there was no lions and all of a sudden the lion was there, you'd be like, fuck!
Well, if we're running around cities and there's no zombies, and then one day there are zombies, that's gonna fucking suck.
And if it is one of those things where they bite you and then you have it and then you bite someone and they have it and it just spreads like in that fucking World War Z movie?
Why is it that Asian women have smaller breasts than Western world women?
And the reason is, you look at their soy intake.
Soy has these two chemicals, genistein and diastene, which can block the estrogen receptors because it's a weak estrogen receptor, and the strong estrogen is estradiol, which causes breast tissue to grow.
So women who are in Asia who migrate to Hawaii have larger breasts, higher estradiol functioning, and they come to the United States even higher because we've got so much xenoestrogens in our food.
That's why we talk with a high voice sometimes.
We have a lot of hormones.
The federal government, thank God, just said we had to take out antibiotics from some of our poultry.
We can no longer use in livestock.
I think this year it starts or next year.
They can't use antibiotics because our resistance to antibiotics is possibly coming from the fact that a lot of our meat has antibiotics in it so that the animals are protected.
A lot of ranches and things in California, they're trying to eliminate lead because lead is really dangerous to the environment, to the animals that eat it.
This is the guy who made the werewolf in the front yard.
He's going to make a movie on Bigfoot and he's crowdsourcing it and he's building all of the parts In his lab here, and he made this video and sent it to me today.
It's fucking sick.
If they wanted to do one of those Patterson-Gimlin movies now, boy, they could freak people the fuck out.
Because the artificial Bigfoots that they create now are amazing.
The work that they've done in special effects.
Look at this, they're doing this one hair at a time.
I went to the Pacific Northwest actually looking for Bigfoot for the sci-fi show that I did, and I'm convinced that I talked to people that believed that they saw something.
What it actually is, who knows, but the reality of the Pacific Northwest is the density of the forest is incredible.
It's hard to imagine if you've never visited there.
I had an idea in my head of what it would be like, but the enormity of it all and how...
Insignificant and tiny I felt when I was in it.
That place is like a magical rainforest.
It's a true rainforest.
It's gorgeous.
And the inside is filled with bright green moss and the trees are filled with bright green leaves and it's only sunny like every other day or something like that.
Most of the time it's just raining constantly and it's Fucking lush, man.
Like a dense box of Q-tips is how I describe the trees there.
And you realize once you're there, like, oh, who knows what's out here?
There might be anything out here.
But the idea that it's gone this long with all these people looking for it, no one's brought back a body, nobody came across it, nobody shot it, most likely bullshit.
There was a broke-off branch that was broke off in the middle of the tree, and these guys were convinced that Bigfoot did that.
Cool guys, man.
They had a cool attitude, too, because their attitude was even if there's no Bigfoot, they're still out camping and enjoying nature and indulging in this fantasy.
Well, they do find footprints, but the issue with this area of the Pacific Northwest is that what you see these guys walking on right here, that stuff is so soft.
It's so incredibly dense with pine needles.
They said that there's between five and six feet of compressed pine needles under your feet.
And then it eventually becomes dirt and, you know, breaks down.
Because it doesn't mean that people haven't made up, you know, mythical animals and things in the past.
They certainly have.
And if you wanted to think about some old man that lives in the woods and, you know, some...
You never know what the fucks are on any corner when you're in the woods, especially back then, the Indian days.
You know, it's probably a good cautionary tale to pretend there's some giant wild man living in the woods that's much larger than you and doesn't give a fuck and hides from cameras.
It seems like it's a good thing to tell your kids.
But there's still not like this massive influx of UFO videos that are legitimate.
They're still all horse shit.
So as these game cameras become more and more prevalent in the woods where people go out hunting or they go out sightseeing or looking for animals, you know...
So you believe that it's actually possible that someone has somehow or another kept people from the information that human beings have been visited and that we have actually received technology from aliens.
Well, I honestly, I mean, all bullshit aside, putting myself out there not worried about what I look like, you know, because if you start talking about aliens, you do look like an idiot.
Let's just accept that.
I submit to that.
I don't think we look like regular monkeys.
I think we look different.
It's weird.
It's weird how we look different.
And I know that there's been a bunch of different stages of us along the way.
I get all that.
But man, they seem like they were pretty recent.
Those fucking things seem pretty recent.
And when they find out that people's brain size doubled over a period of two million years and there's no logical explanation, I go, oh, what?
The HIV. There was a documentary on HIV, trying to go through the history of how it developed.
And the way the story was told was there was a French, you know, one of the largest vaccine companies is a French company, starts with an M. And they were in Zaire and at a camp trying to grow a smallpox vaccine on a culture and they couldn't do it.
So what they ended up doing, because it would die, it wouldn't sustain it.
So they ended up getting simian, which is monkey liver or monkey kidney.
And they grew the virus, the smallpox virus, on it.
And what happened was they believed that the monkey's virus crossed over from monkey to human in this vaccine.
And who was the first case that was documented?
This French guy that came to the United States was the plague, the typhoid Mary.
Yeah, there's an article in here from the London Times about smallpox vaccine triggered AIDS virus.
An AIDS epidemic may have been triggered by the mass vaccination campaign which eradicated smallpox.
Whoa.
The World Health Organization, which masterminded a 13-year campaign, is studying the new scientific evidence suggesting that the immunization with smallpox vaccine, V-A-C-C-I-N-I-A, vaccine-ina?
Simeon virus stay—viruses in monkeys stay in monkeys.
Human viruses stay in humans.
But when it crosses the species, which is a very difficult thing to do unless it mutates— So what happened in this premise of this documentary quote that I saw was that by culturing the smallpox vaccine, smallpox in on simian monkey kidneys, that whatever they were feeding it allowed it to cross the genetics of I see.
I think it's not specifically only about eliminating people and population control, but I think there's, if you look at the best financing, war machinery, war is incredible.
Financing, how much money have we spent in Iraq, in Afghanistan?
And then the $20 billion that was sitting in the bank from all the oil being sold worldwide while the war was going on, and why didn't they use that for the war?
It's also people that aren't concerned about their own diets.
I know many people who never give any consideration whatsoever to the fuel that they put inside their body.
They just don't.
They don't think about vegetables.
They don't think about phytonutrients.
They don't think about minerals.
and they don't think about being hydrated, they treat their body like it's some rental car they're just pouring shit down into.
Like, oh, will it run on premium?
Yes.
Would also run on human shit?
Yes, it will.
Well, I'm just going to back my ass up to this fucking hose and shit into my car.
You know, that's what people would do if they could.
That's how they treat their body.
You could have a guy who works all day and forces his body to do very stressful computations And he's running on coffee and cheeseburgers from McDonald's and candy and a fucking protein bar that's filled with GMO corn.
That's all possible.
And you wonder what the fuck is wrong with us as a society when we can't get our mental shit together while our bodies are rotting apart, Dr. Gordon.
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And his Twitter and his Instagram are epic.
Because this guy will fly into a city at like 4 o'clock in the morning and be at the gym at 6. Taking pictures, tweeting, and going crazy.
He just believes in like constant hard work.
Doing things that are difficult.
Making yourself work out when you don't want to.
And he's very strict with his diet except one day.
And that one day he has these fucking epic cheat days where he takes photos of stacks of donuts and literally like jugs of milk, like five gallon jugs of milk and this fucking giant savage.
Well, we have an automated system to make it easier.
If they have a traumatic brain injury or have had a traumatic brain injury, And I'll just interject this.
If they're with the military or with the police department or with NFL retiree, I have three grants to pay for their $2,100, $2,200 laboratory testing.
It'll be paid for by a grant.
So they go to the website and they fill out an application and within 12 to 24 hours, someone in our office calls to just confirm a couple of things and send them out about 20 pages worth of intake.
The brain sits, you know, in an envelope with fluid supporting it.
But there's the front part of the inside of the brain and the backside at the front part called the suenoid plateau.
It's a sharp area that...
All you have to do is stop short.
You just have to shake your head, shaking baby, working on a pneumatic drill or a pneumatic hammer or skiing moguls where you're up and down or doing water skiing where you're hitting the waves and you're bouncing up and down.
That's how simple it is and we've taken it for granted that the brain is Impervious to damage.
It doesn't make sense, but it's called paradoxical.
It does the opposite effect of what it should.
And it's only in certain people, like people with attention deficit disorder or AHDH, hyperactivity.
And...
You know, they're looking for drugs, alcohol.
A guy that came from Boston, I'll tell you a Boston story, J.R. came from Boston, a rugby player, five head traumas, three loss of consciousness, and one hospitalization.
And this is one of the hallmarks of traumatic brain injury.
It's called treatment-resistant depression.
We're finding that people who are put onto one medication and it doesn't work or two doesn't work or get shifted around because they stop working, you need to look at the hormones.
You need to look at hormones.
And we put him on 60 milligrams of testosterone because his level of testosterone was extremely low.
60 milligrams of testosterone a week.
Six months later, his psychiatrist, he had to get a new psychiatrist, took him off his drugs.
If someone has had enough of an impact on their brain that they have to seek exogenous hormones to fix whatever problem they have, what would you do if that person was still engaging in the very activities that caused them to have this issue with their body?
Well, hopefully the doctor has done the relationship of his activity, MMA, and he's done the workup, which includes laboratory testing as well as the radiological evaluation to see what the damage is.
And if you see areas that are very classical for damage, scarring, axonal scarring, brain scarring, old bloods, I've got a case right now from the entertainment world where it's a stuntman who's been through a lot of traumas.
His last trauma, beginning of last year, Left him depressed.
He was in a coma.
Left him depressed and so forth.
And within five weeks, he's better.
And the question became, he's good enough to go back to work, but you don't want him to go back to work.
So this is why people don't want to talk about it.
You've got some great football players who've been dinged.
You don't want to go do that test that says, I'm sorry, but you can no longer play football.
You're 25 years of age and you've got scars in the brain, which mean you're at high risk for developing the CTE. Do you remember when that football player died because he fell out of the back of his truck?
So, in your opinion, as an expert on the subject, when a guy gets to a point where he needs testosterone because of this, they really shouldn't be engaging in whatever caused them to lose their ability to produce testosterone.
Especially if it was due to positive findings of damage by DT MRI or functional MRI or MRI. That's the thing about when someone has a testosterone use exemption, they don't have to specify the cause of testosterone being low.
Head trauma, it's the regulatory mechanism in the brain, and then you have peripheral, which is the testicle itself.
Any kind of damage, infections, mumps.
You're talking about mumps.
Mumps can cause the testicles to stop working.
Okay?
So just a viral infection, you can get loss of testicular function.
But in someone who is MMA, I would have to really think long and hard about, hmm, he has testosterone deficiency, he's been in MMA for six years, and he's had, you know, five documented loss of consciousness.
Yeah, that happens all the time, and then guys wind up fighting just a couple of weeks later, and they can't take a punch.
We've seen it many times.
Marvin Eastman, Travis Luter is a famous fight where Travis Luter knocked out Marvin Eastman with a punch that looked like it barely connected, and it turned out that we had heard that Marvin Eastman had been in training camp and had gotten hurt in training camp, gotten knocked out maybe twice, at least once.
He's a great fighter, too, a really tough guy, so it didn't make any sense that he couldn't take a punch like that.
The only thing I really want to promote is the knowledge that there's this incredible association between head trauma, hormone deficiency, and change in personality.
And when you correct the underlying deficiency, you see people blossom.
You know, to end, I'll say that we have 30% Two-year post-traumatic brain injury gal, 32 years.
She cracked her carotid in an auto accident and partial stroke on the right side.
32 years, she's lived with incapacitation or suboptimal life on a multitude of drugs.
12 weeks after starting her program, she's off of everything.
I was a swimmer in medical school and in undergrad.
And so she started back swimming and she's back in school.
Her life is just energized.
She feels phenomenal.
And they write their story to me and it'll be eventually posted on the website.
We have, you know, About 571, 271 patients with testosterone, then total about 500 plus people.
I've been doing this 10 years, just specifically traumatic brain, but overall 18 years with hormonal replacement, not knowing for those first years that there were so many people with traumatic, eight years, first eight years that there were so many people with traumatic deficiency.