June 20, 2013 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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| Hello, freak bitches of the internet, of the world, Luchos Graces, just trying to get used to speaking Mexican. | ||
| Might have to go there soon, David Seaman. | ||
| We might have to evacuate to safer pastures. | ||
| Might have to. | ||
| Like where the drug war is at its hottest. | ||
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Alcohol. | |
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| Is he masturbating? | ||
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| Mixed masturbation associated with it. | ||
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| What's he doing in the basement also? | ||
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| What is it? | ||
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| Brian, it's good to see you again, buddy. | ||
| Something lost out in the woods. | ||
| Hit the music, my friend. | ||
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The Joe Rogan experience. | |
| Drink my day, Joe Rogan. | ||
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Podcast my night. | |
| All day. | ||
| All day. | ||
| I've been working like seven days in a row. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, I'm totally bewildered. | ||
| You've confused me because you said, like, hey, I'm in New York. | ||
| Hey, I'm in Vegas. | ||
| I'm like, what? | ||
| Wait, what's going on here? | ||
| Working like a motherfucker, dude. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Trying to get this show done. | ||
| We started here on July 16th. | ||
| How many episodes have you done? | ||
| Well, they're a conglomeration of them. | ||
| So we'll do one part of one episode one part of the day and then another part of another episode, another part of the day. | ||
| They're not necessarily like we do one episode and then we're done and then we move on to another one. | ||
| We're filming like all six of them at the same time, so we're trying to smush everything together. | ||
| It's been very interesting. | ||
| But I just got back from the Global Future 2045 conference in New York where I got to meet Aubrey DeGrey and all these life extension people and Dr. Amit Goswami that had been on our podcast. | ||
| He was there as well. | ||
| And fascinating fucking shit. | ||
| So you got that where you look at something like Global Future 2045 where there's all these super geniuses trying to figure out what the future of human life is going to be like and whether or not we'll be able to extend life and download consciousness into computers and all this crazy shit. | ||
| And then at the same time, David Seaman, you got a lot of fuckery going on, man. | ||
| We're starting to learn how much surveillance is being, what's the word, launched on the American public on a daily basis. | ||
| Yeah, I just want to ease into this one. | ||
| I feel like every time I come here, I have this hardcore doom and gloom stuff to share. | ||
| And you guys are such a positive group in general. | ||
| So yeah, it's fucking scary what's going on. | ||
| It's hard not to take notice. | ||
| Well, I think it seems to have woken a lot of people up. | ||
| This is all kind of shit that Alex Jones would tell people about in like, you know, 1990. | ||
| Alex is running around screaming all this shit. | ||
| And everybody was like, what? | ||
| No one's checking your email. | ||
| What? | ||
| You know, no one's. | ||
| But slowly but surely, it seems to be almost inevitable that you're going to get your email looked at. | ||
| Well, what's so scary is Obama's over in Europe right now. | ||
| And in Germany, they were really upset about these recent revelations. | ||
| And in Berlin, he gives a speech saying, you know, now let me be clear. | ||
| No one's reading through ordinary citizens' emails. | ||
| We're not rifling through ordinary people's emails. | ||
| And, you know, he says this on international TV. | ||
| And he either doesn't read the news or like does not understand what his own administration is doing because that is what that program does, which is why it caused such an uproar. | ||
| And similarly, 12 days ago, he said on national TV in the U.S., when this first broke, he said, no one's listening to your phone calls. | ||
| That's not what this program is about. | ||
| And that's the exact quote that people can look up. | ||
| And that leaked court order from Verizon Business Services is proof that actually all of our phone calls are being looked at. | ||
| And they say just the metadata, which means who you're calling, who's calling you, those phone numbers. | ||
| Also, the duration of the call and your location. | ||
| Like not even just what building we're in right now, but what floor of the building we're on. | ||
| That's how accurate this shit is. | ||
| And they have this on everybody. | ||
| And just based on that metadata alone, I could tell, you know, maybe not me, but an actual trained analyst could immediately tell if you're having an affair, if you've sought help for depression or anxiety by calling a psychiatrist's office, if you're having, you know, financial problems, you're contacting tax consultants and all this shit. | ||
| So within a few minutes from your metadata, they know far more about your life than the government possibly should know. | ||
| Especially if you have nothing to hide and you're not doing anything wrong. | ||
| It's just shocking that it was all going on and no one was speaking out about it until this one dude. | ||
| And he comes out with it and now he's on the run. | ||
| He's hiding. | ||
| I was looking on the front of USA Today and it was in my hotel and it said like some, you know, 65% of Americans think Edward Snowden should be put on trial. | ||
| Well actually the American people I think have been pretty good about knowing that they're being bullshitted right now. | ||
| Like it's something like two-thirds want to see a congressional investigation, not into Snowden, but into these programs and if they're targeting Americans. | ||
| And one thing I want to put out here before I forget about it is we keep the debate is like, well, should we do this to Americans? | ||
| And it's a given at this point that we are absolutely 100%, no doubt about it, doing this to people in Europe, people in Asia, our supposed trading partners. | ||
| We're spying on them. | ||
| And these are still human beings too. | ||
| I mean, they're not U.S. citizens, but should ordinary people who have no links to radicalism or terrorism, should they have their personal stuff rifled through by somebody who is an analyst at the NSA, basically a government employee. | ||
| These aren't people who have taken years of training and they've lost their ego in some kind of like a Razzel ghoul ceremony like in the dark night. | ||
| You know, they don't train on the ice and lose themselves in some greater cause. | ||
| They're just people who saw a fucking newspaper advertisement and applied for this job at Fort Meade, and now they have access to an unbelievable amount of information about ordinary people all over the world. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| So it's not just metadata. | ||
| It's your absolute emails. | ||
| There are two theories, and I'll share both of them, and you can decide which one's true. | ||
| So we know with 100% certainty that they are looking at metadata of innocent people. | ||
| It appears to be all phone records within the United States. | ||
| And if they're doing that here, you can assume that they're pretty much doing it everywhere, because that's what the NSA does. | ||
| They're not even supposed to be doing this stuff on U.S. soil. | ||
| But they're not supposed to be doing it unless they have a specific foreign target within the United States. | ||
| All the stuff the NSA does made sense back during the Cold War. | ||
| So if you'd have a Soviet agent come to the U.S. and you suspect them of doing spy shit, you want to have a way to tap into their phone calls while they're in the United States. | ||
| So it made sense to do this kind of stuff back then. | ||
| It never made sense to turn it in on American citizens. | ||
| And that's why you're seeing whistleblowers now come out and say this is wrong. | ||
| This is not the way this program was set up, et cetera. | ||
| And yeah, so the two theories are definitely metadata. | ||
| And then the actual contents of your phone calls and emails, according to some people, is being logged in NSA servers no matter who you are. | ||
| You could be the most innocent person out there who's never even smoked a joint or looked at any kind of Alex Jones website. | ||
| And you're still having your emails and phone calls logged on a server somewhere. | ||
| And they're not accessed unless they have reason to suspect you of a crime and they get some kind of court approval. | ||
| And then they access all your phone conversations. | ||
| That's theory one. | ||
| And theory two is that they're actually not recording everything. | ||
| They're just recording the metadata. | ||
| And if you're on their target list, then they're recording all of your phone calls and emails. | ||
| But if not, they're only looking at the metadata. | ||
| And what's so scary about theory two, which is the more conservative theory, it's not as frightening as the other theory. | ||
| What's fucked up about it is that according to William Binney, the other NSA whistleblower, there are several of them, the way that you get targeted is once you're introduced to somebody else's community, you're now added to the target list. | ||
| So just to give you an example, in the past I've had conversations with journalists who I'm almost certain are on the NSA target list just because they cover really sensitive stuff. | ||
| So since I've had conversations with them by email and by phone, I'm now a part of their community and I'm added to the target list, which means that all of my phone calls are being logged in a server somewhere, the actual content. | ||
| So if they need to, they can listen to them in the future. | ||
| And by you talking to me right now, that makes you a part of my community and now you're on the target list. | ||
| And if you talk to somebody next week, they're on the target list and it just keeps going and going. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| And so there are millions of people on this list. | ||
| The whole world. | ||
| Yeah, I mean... | ||
| Well, you look at the justifications they're using are completely absurd. | ||
| They say, if your communications are only U.S. communications, we are definitely not intercepting them. | ||
| But, you know, if you have a lot of followers on Twitter, it's 100% certain that you've interacted with Twitter followers who are not living in the United States. | ||
| If you've ever received an email that's like a spam email, it's almost certain that that did not originate on a U.S. server. | ||
| It originated somewhere in Europe or Russia. | ||
| And, you know, when you visit websites, most of the shit you look at is not based in the U.S. So whenever you do those things. | ||
| Most of shit you look at. | ||
| Busted. | ||
| See that shit? | ||
| Come on, son. | ||
| I'm on American websites all day. | ||
| Pornhub is American from what I understand. | ||
| Couldn't you like just forward your phone number to a home phone number and then direct your text messages through a website that you know isn't recording your information? | ||
| Like is there some kind of hack that you can hack yourself to a king phone? | ||
| What's so bad about this from an economic perspective is there are already companies that are positioning themselves as we're U.S. free. | ||
| You know, your data won't be stored in the U.S. It's like we're infected now with this out-of-control corrupt government. | ||
| And what sucks about that is we're the ones who make this shit happen. | ||
| Like cloud storage, innovative stuff like Facebook and Google, you know, content companies like YouTube and Stitcher and all this stuff. | ||
| This is what we're good at as a country. | ||
| And we export it all around the world. | ||
| And now we're like tainted goods because you can't trust us anymore. | ||
| Our government is too crazy. | ||
| Just for the same reason that a lot of companies don't want to do business in China because it would mean buying off a lot of people and dealing with a lot of bullshit. | ||
| Now the U.S. is becoming a place where great people, great innovation, but the government is too volatile and you can't trust it. | ||
| And that's terrible. | ||
| So that means that we're not going to be the ones who pull ahead over the next 50 years. | ||
| It's so fucked up because if you talk to people that, you know, normal folks in America that will exhibit some sort of patriotism, they have an idea of what America is. | ||
| Like everyone's idea of America, America is, you know, hey, this is a truly free country where a person is not tied down by their lineage. | ||
| They can make something out of themselves with a lot of success stories, a nation of free-thinking individuals. | ||
| We have all these like positive things that we attach to it. | ||
| But goddamn if we're not governed by a bunch of paranoid fucking weirdos. | ||
| Yeah, and they wrap themselves in the flag. | ||
| I think most Americans are good people, obviously, or I want to be here. | ||
| And it's not the people, and it's not the companies here. | ||
| It's the government has gone beyond the bounds that were set out for you. | ||
| Isn't that what happens when, like, if you have a paradigm that you've been operating under, and then all of a sudden that paradigm is just dissolving under you, like rising tide, and you know what's happening. | ||
| So what do you do? | ||
| You try to put a bunch of crazy laws in place to try to stop it. | ||
| You try to be able to check out it. | ||
| You fucking put the fear of God in everybody. | ||
| Check out all their emails. | ||
| Look at all their dick pics. | ||
| Look at all their phone calls they're making at 3 o'clock in the morning when they're drunk. | ||
| Look at everything. | ||
| Look at everything. | ||
| I got you, bitch. | ||
| You better keep your fucking mouth shut. | ||
| We're going to keep running it this way. | ||
| Well, what's crazy is the director of the NSA, Keith Alexander, General Keith Alexander, he was giving testimony before Congress. | ||
| And I think this was either earlier today or yesterday. | ||
| And at the end of his testimony, he didn't realize that the mic was still hot next to him. | ||
| And he leans over to one of his aides and says, I need to buy your boss a freaking beer, talking about the FBI guys who were testifying in support of this program. | ||
| And so, you know, at the end of the day, what he said, that's nothing wrong. | ||
| Of course, the FBI and the NSA collaborate. | ||
| That's what they do. | ||
| They're intelligence agencies and law enforcement agents, or in the case of the FBI, you know what I'm saying. | ||
| They're the same shit. | ||
| And so nothing he said there was wrong. | ||
| That actually shows that he's a human being and goes out to drink beer every now and then. | ||
| It isn't this, you know, a computer. | ||
| So nothing he said was wrong, but just that single line that he didn't want the world to hear and the world heard has been analyzed to death online. | ||
| It hit the front page of Reddit. | ||
| People are in conspiracy land now. | ||
| And if you think like, you know, this guy, he didn't want that line of conversation to hit the wrong people. | ||
| What about every single text message you've ever sent? | ||
| Every single website you've ever sent. | ||
| It's kind of, it's richly ironic, right? | ||
| It's showing that this is not a good system. | ||
| Even if you have nothing to hide, maybe you don't want your future employer to see every porn website you've been to, every medical condition you've looked up, and every deleted text message from the woman you're seeing. | ||
| It's just not their fucking place to see that in the first place. | ||
| And then, why extend that power to a government agent who is just somebody who applied for a job and happens to have a clean record? | ||
| That's all an NSA analyst is. | ||
| Again, they're not people who have detached themselves from the ego and they're driven only by love of country. | ||
| I would hope that's what most of them are there for. | ||
| But we don't know that. | ||
| People are people, and that's why we have a constitution. | ||
| That's why we have the Bill of Rights, is to prevent this from happening in the first place. | ||
| This is very well put. | ||
| And I think, unfortunately, the reality of our times is that things are moving in the direction of a complete elimination of all boundaries between people and information. | ||
| I just don't know if there's any way to stop it. | ||
| And when you find out that the people with the you can't say like the ability to like what the government is doing, they have to do in secretly, in secrecy, because no one is going to allow it. | ||
| No one is going to say, like, yeah, I fully support you listening to every fucking email to stop the occasional. | ||
| Are you chewing icy motherfucker? | ||
| To stop the occasional terror. | ||
| I mean, think about how many terrorism, how many terrorist activities, how many people die of terrorism, as opposed to how many people die just from drinking alcohol or smoking cigarettes. | ||
| The government doesn't try to ever get you to stop doing those things, but way more people die from them than are ever going to probably die from terrorism. | ||
| I mean, 400,000 people every year die from cigarettes, and you never hear the government talking about how cigarettes are the enemy. | ||
| What they're doing is they're trying to keep people scared. | ||
| And by trying to keep people scared, they can continue to govern things the way they're doing it. | ||
| So the way to be able to check out all your email and keep everybody back on their heels is to say, we have to protect you from terrorism. | ||
| We're trying to stop terrorism. | ||
| And the way to stop terrorism is you got to check everything. | ||
| You got to look at everybody's dick pics. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then if we happen to find out along the way. | ||
| That you're gay. | ||
| Yeah, that you're gay and that you're going to be running for some office in the future. | ||
| And you have cancer? | ||
| Yeah, or that you smoke marijuana and you happen to live in a conservative state and you're a congressman who plans on investigating the NSA, they can just give you a little heads up. | ||
| Maybe think twice before you say anything on that oversight committee. | ||
| And I'm not saying this stuff is happening, but I guess my whole issue is why wouldn't it happen? | ||
| If they've been this dishonest about the extent to which they're spying on people and now they're like, oh, we're transparent. | ||
| Yeah, after a whistleblower goes to Hong Kong at the risk of his life and reveals these documents, then you're transparent. | ||
| And then there's a credibility problem. | ||
| It's the difference between you calling the IRS and being like, look, I'm a little bit behind on my taxes. | ||
| Difference between that and them being like, what is this account and the payments? | ||
| You know, what is this all about? | ||
| It's a huge difference. | ||
| Same with anything. | ||
| It's like going to your girlfriend and saying you fucked up about something versus her finding out and then you have to explain yourself. | ||
| And that's what the government is doing now. | ||
| And the two arguments they're making are, to anyone who's reasonably intelligent, are not acceptable. | ||
| They say, this is nothing new. | ||
| This is all routine. | ||
| This is no big deal. | ||
| Well, then why are you treating this guy as if he's blown the cover off something huge? | ||
| If this is no big deal, why did Senator Lindsey Graham say that he will go to the ends of the earth to track this guy down? | ||
| You know, why are they treating him as if he's such a threat to national security if we all knew that all of our shit was being looked at anyway? | ||
| Well, we definitely didn't all know that. | ||
| There's no doubt about that. | ||
| But there was some concern about the facility they were building in Utah. | ||
| I had heard about that online. | ||
| You had spoken about it. | ||
| Michael Rupert had spoken about it, that they're building a facility that stores everything. | ||
| It's going to be a massive, gigantic data center. | ||
| And the idea is, look, if you don't do anything wrong, they're never going to look into it. | ||
| But the reality is, who are they and how did they get that position? | ||
| They're just human beings. | ||
| And the laws change over time. | ||
| Like, just to give you a nightmare scenario, 2016, let's say we get a president, what's his fucking name? | ||
| President Santorum or President Rick Perry, somebody like that. | ||
| And because they feel like this is a good way to gain support from the conservative base, they go on a morality platform, which has happened before in the United States. | ||
| Look at prohibition. | ||
| They go on a morality platform. | ||
| They say, look, the U.S. is falling behind China and all these other countries. | ||
| The reason why is that we're soft. | ||
| You know, we're a bunch of druggies and a bunch of alcoholics. | ||
| So from here on out, we're not just going to continue to keep marijuana criminalized. | ||
| We're going to super criminalize it and just eradicate it from the United States. | ||
| And so what they do in that case is even though it wasn't illegal four years ago to send emails to your friends talking about the medical marijuana clinic that you go to in California, even though that's totally fine in 2013, in 2016, it's no longer legal to talk about those things and to promote that ideology. | ||
| And all you have to do is do a keyword search in their database and find everybody who is sympathetic to marijuana reform and make their lives a little bit more difficult. | ||
| Maybe hit them with audits or trumped up charges or anything. | ||
| And when that happens, you're not living in a representative democracy anymore. | ||
| You're living in a place where unelected people are people who have been elected and then corrupted are making decisions for you and there's nothing you can do about it. | ||
| And you don't even know the decisions are being made until it impacts you personally. | ||
| Yeah, and this is really a pattern that has repeated itself over and over again throughout human history. | ||
| And it's really exactly what the founding fathers of this country were trying to prevent when they crafted the Constitution. | ||
| They were trying to protect against this continual cycle of people getting to power and then abusing that power. | ||
| It just, it happens. | ||
| It's always happened. | ||
| It's the way humans do it. | ||
| And slowly but surely they've chipped away at it with things like NDAA or the Patriot Act. | ||
| And they do it while nothing's happening. | ||
| They're not like they're doing it while bombs are blowing up overhead and we need to declare martial law and figure out what's going on and lock everything down. | ||
| It's not like that at all. | ||
| They're just recognizing the tide coming in and they're scrambling and they're trying to find all sorts of new ways to get at data. | ||
| But in the meantime, though, their data is being compromised. | ||
| It's funny you said the tide's coming in because one of the best theories I've seen so far on why they're doing all this stuff was published in the Guardian newspaper the other day. | ||
| And the theory that this one guy proposed is that the government strongly believes that economic and possibly energy unrest, so the price of fuel, as well as people's wages and their savings, All of that stuff is going to be an upheaval in the near future, and the reason why is climate change. | ||
| If you think about New York City, if just the tide levels rise by a couple feet, you're talking about the New York Stock Exchange flooding out and that market being closed for a couple weeks to the minimum and total financial chaos. | ||
| Not to mention all the people who lose their lives in the flooding. | ||
| So if you realize how serious climate change is and that half the country, the sort of Fox News view is just to mock it and pretend like it's bullshit. | ||
| This is happening and apparently the government is concerned about the unrest that will come from just one major catastrophe, that people will start to protest the government. | ||
| They'll say, you didn't do your job. | ||
| You should have known about this beforehand. | ||
| And there will be just absolute upheaval. | ||
| So what pisses me off about this is if that's the reason why the government is storing all of our emails is so that they can pick out all the influencers within protest groups in the future. | ||
| If that's what this is all about, it's fucking absolutely disgusting that they're using their considerable resources and technology to make sure that protests don't take off in the U.S. instead of using that talent and technology to prevent these things from happening in the first place. | ||
| Let's tackle climate change. | ||
| Let's figure out how we don't have a drought in the future. | ||
| Right, but what you're saying is very general. | ||
| You're dealing with a bunch of compartmentalized people. | ||
| And so if you're attacking their specific thing, whether it's the IRS or whether it's the NSA, if you're going after their specific department, they're not going to think, you know what, we need to just put a man on the moon. | ||
| They're not thinking like that. | ||
| They're thinking we have to protect our organization. | ||
| And that's what it's toxic because it's corporation thinking. | ||
| It's corporate thinking with guns. | ||
| You said man on the moon. | ||
| Our grandparents put humans on the moon. | ||
| And now we're just trying to fight the government to not read our emails. | ||
| It's like we're moving backwards in time. | ||
| Well, there's a lack of privacy that is just overwhelmingly apparent when you look at the future. | ||
| If you extrapolate the future, the lack of privacy is the thing that people dread the most over the last few years, whether it's someone hacking into your email or someone spying on your phone calls or the fact that it now is completely a reality. | ||
| That was something that people were really worried about for a long time. | ||
| As it gets more and more invasive, as technology permeates your life more and more, it's going to. | ||
| It's going to reach some point where we have neural chips, where we have a headpiece that we wear. | ||
| We have something. | ||
| That's not so bad if it's open to everyone. | ||
| It will be. | ||
| But right now, it's only the government looking at it, so it's a one-way mirror. | ||
| I really believe, I know people give me shit about this, and they think it's a very utopian way of looking at the world, but I truly believe that this new age that we're entering into, this age of complete openness, is going to force people to be accountable. | ||
| It's going to change behavior. | ||
| And even the people that govern, they're going to govern differently. | ||
| They're going to have to. | ||
| They're going to want to. | ||
| You're not going to want to feel the repercussions from all these people that you're doing something wrong. | ||
| You're going to feel bad. | ||
| You're going to change. | ||
| It's not a good life to be suppressing and bullying and dominating people and using dirty tactics like reading their emails to control your political agenda and to intimidate your opponents. | ||
| It's evil. | ||
| And it's not good for you either. | ||
| The person who does it, it's shit for you. | ||
| You're going to get cancer. | ||
| You're going to freak out. | ||
| The negative energy that you're putting out there in the world, that's not a free ride. | ||
| You can't be some global fucking asshole that's poisoning third world countries for profit. | ||
| You can't be that guy and sleep like a baby and wake up with a smile. | ||
| You're a flawed human being. | ||
| It's unconsciousness. | ||
| I've thought a lot about this, about why these consulting companies are working with the government to spy on American citizens. | ||
| And they're even building similar systems for Middle Eastern countries where, you know, at least here we can tell ourselves that Obama will never use this against us and that there are these supposed safeguards in place, which really... | ||
| Well, that's what people do. | ||
| We don't like to think that it could happen here. | ||
| But let me just play this out. | ||
| The same companies that built that shit over here and maintain it are building similar systems in the Middle East. | ||
| And those countries are corrupt monarchies that have no qualms about using it to do exactly what I said, to figure out who the protesters are, to pull them out of their homes and torture them until they stop protesting. | ||
| And it's appalling to me that American companies are involved in this. | ||
| And I kept thinking, how is this possible? | ||
| Because I know some people who work in the defense field and stuff of that nature, those kinds of companies. | ||
| And I'm like, they're not bad people. | ||
| And I think what it is, is this unconsciousness. | ||
| You have people who are around that guy, Edward Snowden's age, around my age, who are making more money than they should be making, $200,000 a year. | ||
| And just these assholes wearing khakis flying all over the world. | ||
| And they're in a position of privilege, you know, airport lounges, attractive women. | ||
| They make more than most people that age make. | ||
| And they have access to extraordinary power. | ||
| And they're doing this because they've been told that that's what you're supposed to do. | ||
| After college, you should be successful. | ||
| You want to make a lot of money, have a nice girlfriend, do these things. | ||
| And so you're just in this little pool, this isolated pool of other people who are doing the same thing as you. | ||
| And so you're like, well, my friend Tom, he's making $215,000 a year. | ||
| So I have to do a good job on this NSA project to make sure I make $240,000 next year and can take my girlfriend to some nice place in the Hamptons for a week. | ||
| And these people are not the ones ruling the world. | ||
| They're just the pawns for the 65-year-old, 70-year-old dudes who actually run these defense companies. | ||
| And why are they doing this stuff? | ||
| They have more money than God. | ||
| They don't need to continue doing the same things over and over again. | ||
| I think they're doing it because it becomes competitive at that point. | ||
| They want to get invited to next year's Bilderberg and jerk each other off or whatever it is they do with these things. | ||
| They want to be in the club. | ||
| And if you stop, if you're no longer a part of the process, you kind of fall out of the club. | ||
| And that's what it's about. | ||
| It's unconsciousness. | ||
| People feel like there's no other way. | ||
| Like, that's the way you should live your life is to gain more and more influence until you die. | ||
| And maybe that's not the right approach. | ||
| Well, human beings are incredibly malleable. | ||
| I mean, we're able to adapt to strange situations and we're able to rise and fall to incredible heights and depths. | ||
| I mean, we're fucking weird, man. | ||
| we're not standard. | ||
| You know, there's not like a normal human. | ||
| Like, the way humans vary, like, in behavior and personality and capabilities, it's not like anything in the animal kingdom. | ||
| A tiger is a fucking tiger, is a fucking tiger. | ||
| You know, you could feed one, and if you're lucky, he associates you with being a good thing because you feed him. | ||
| But if one day he decides to go Siegfried and Roy on you, that's his choice, okay? | ||
| There's nothing you can do about that. | ||
| Humans are so different. | ||
| There's so much variability, and it's weird. | ||
| There's so many variables. | ||
| To make a good human is incredibly difficult. | ||
| And until we concentrate on making good people, until we concentrate on the impoverished people in this country, this world even, I mean, until we look at the weakest link of humanity, if we really do look at humanity, we want to pretend we're humane. | ||
| We really do look at it collectively. | ||
| The thing you have to do is you've got to stop all these bad spots. | ||
| If you have a foundation and the foundation is all fucked up with worms and termites and shit, you got to cut that out and rebuild it. | ||
| If you don't have a good foundation, you're fucked. | ||
| If you look at any society, look at the weakest link. | ||
| The weakest link is its biggest problem. | ||
| And the weakest link in this country is completely ignored. | ||
| Poor people are like, fuck you, get your own, figure it out, fuck yourself. | ||
| There's so little money being put into it. | ||
| have to pay for school. | ||
| You know, when it comes to colleges, Try getting a grant. | ||
| Okay, you got a grant. | ||
| Congratulations. | ||
| Not try to get in a job once you get out of there. | ||
| Oh, back to the situation. | ||
| $7 an hour or unemployed. | ||
| Massive struggle to try to get out of that situation. | ||
| And no resources put to trying to solve it, like social engineering as a culture. | ||
| Like, let's look at our brothers and sisters and say, how can we help them? | ||
| How can we make sure that these babies aren't growing in these incredibly toxic environments? | ||
| They're going to be damaged human beings that go out to inflict more bullshit on society. | ||
| All of that can be avoided if you cut it off at the path. | ||
| All of that can be avoided. | ||
| It sounds so cliche, but with love and understanding. | ||
| Like, if we treated it that way and realize that we're not going to fucking be in this thing forever. | ||
| And we now, for the first time ever, all have access to the right amount of information where we should be able to sort this out. | ||
| We should all be able to understand what the fuck is really going on with human behavior, what's really going on with the way corporations can act as an individual, but yet no one inside the corporation feels anything that the individual is doing that's horrible. | ||
| Everyone wants to fuse it. | ||
| When they feel that way, they become a whistleblower. | ||
| And then the media says that they're a traitor and a narcissist. | ||
| This guy has turned down, by the way, the guy Snowden, has turned down every single major TV interview that has been thrown his way, which is pretty much all of them. | ||
| So if he's a narcissist, why is he turning down all the press? | ||
| He's clearly, and why would he destroy his life? | ||
| That makes no sense. | ||
| Clearly, that's bullshit. | ||
| But that's what happens is when you're in a corporation or in an organization, you see that the stuff around you is not functioning the way it should, that person's a whistleblower if they choose to step up. | ||
| And instead of us being as a society, like, holy shit, that person did a heroic thing. | ||
| They're for sure getting a big-ass book deal and are going to get laid for the rest of their lives because of what they've done for this country. | ||
| Instead of that being the paradigm where we reward those people, it's like traitor. | ||
| Traitor and you want to step back because you don't want to get caught in the waves. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You don't want to be taking him out. | ||
| And they can never get a job again. | ||
| Like Thomas Drake, the other NSA whistleblower, there are actually several of them. | ||
| Thomas Drake, his life over the past few years sounds like a movie, and it probably will be a movie someday soon. | ||
| He was a senior executive at the NSA or a senior official there and saw what was going on, saw that it was deeply un-American and unconstitutional and became a whistleblower. | ||
| And they went after him with everything they had, charged him under the Espionage Act. | ||
| And now he ended up not going to prison. | ||
| He was very fortunate in that respect, not to go to prison. | ||
| But now he works at an Apple store as an hourly retail rep, just at a fucking Apple store telling people about the new iPhone. | ||
| And this is a guy who was privy to the government's most sophisticated technological secrets. | ||
| And now he's telling people how to refresh their mail. | ||
| Maybe he likes it. | ||
| That's a good gig. | ||
| That's a relaxing job. | ||
| I'm saying it's a great gig, but if you're one of the smartest people in the country to the point where the NSA recruits you, these are not stupid people. | ||
| So you're saying that he can't get a job anywhere else. | ||
| The reason why he's there. | ||
| That he's blackballed. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Because other intelligence agencies don't want that person around when really, if you're not doing anything wrong and you're a big company or a big government agency, you should want to recruit people like that to show them off. | ||
| You know, look, we hired this guy, so we're above board. | ||
| We're not doing anything illegal, but they don't do that. | ||
| Those people are kind of fucked for a while. | ||
| Maybe he's a dick. | ||
| Maybe he gets the hang of them. | ||
| You're like, fuck this guy. | ||
| Maybe he wasn't that smart to begin with. | ||
| It was just that whoever hired him was just dumb. | ||
| Maybe he's a traitor. | ||
| He could be a traitor. | ||
| Look, you know, and I don't mean to demean his accomplishments or what he did or his courage in any way in real life. | ||
| We're joking around. | ||
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| Yeah, you're absolutely right. | ||
| And you're absolutely right that it's a real travesty, and it's sad that we all look at America as like one thing. | ||
| But if you see at the root of it, like the people that are running it, the disdain that they have for the privacy of the American people is the rights of it. | ||
| For the rights. | ||
| And they want to chip away at them. | ||
| And even a guy like Obama, which is, I was, man, when Obama won, I was so fucking happy. | ||
| When he first became president, I was like, oh my God, like we really have broken through the clouds. | ||
| Yeah, I was in Union Square at the time with my girlfriend in New York. | ||
| There was like mist in the air. | ||
| I'm not making this up. | ||
| There was actually mist in the air. | ||
| There was just a sea of people cheering him on with this big TV screen. | ||
| And I voted for him in 2008. | ||
| And I was definitely a part of that, you know, the Kool-Aid drinking club of hope and change. | ||
| And yes, we can. | ||
| He said, yes, we can. | ||
| It doesn't mean that he actually would. | ||
| And I bought into it completely. | ||
| And that's part of the reason why I've become such a critic is covering these stories over the past year and a half, you see that his great speeches have almost no correlation to what he is actually doing after the TV turns off and he goes back to running his administration. | ||
| And that's what really makes my blood boil. | ||
| You just were talking about Obama before my phone dies. | ||
| I really want to read this. | ||
| This is from MSN News. | ||
| It's not from some right-wing site Glenn Beck, or something like that. | ||
| So he's planning a trip to Africa, and they're saying it might be the most expensive presidential trip ever. | ||
| This is a quote from MSN News. | ||
| The trip, which begins June 26th, could cost $60 million to $100 million and could be one of the most expensive presidential trips in United States history, one unnamed source told the Washington Post. | ||
| The higher estimated cost of this month's trip is partially due to elaborate security provisions. | ||
| Let me just read the actual stats. | ||
| Resources will reportedly include hundreds of U.S. Secret Service agents and a Navy aircraft carrier with a fully staffed medical trauma center. | ||
| Military cargo planes will transport 56 support vehicles, including 14 limousines and three trucks loaded with sheets of bulletproof glass to cover the windows of the hotels where the first family will stay. | ||
| And my question is, is that a reasonable use of money? | ||
| 14 limousines? | ||
| Why can't we just have two or three? | ||
| And this guy's a president of a constitutional republic, or is he the emperor of some high-tech dystopian society that spies on the whole world and deploys drones to countries that we don't like to kill people on the basis of this secret information we're obtaining through their email? | ||
| And you start to wonder, like, we've strayed pretty far from the farmers in the 13 colonies who were like, we need a form of government that's going to resist future power grabs. | ||
| We're in a totally different world from what they envisioned. | ||
| Yeah, we're like super techno-gangster. | ||
| That's really what it is. | ||
| We're a super techno-gangster society that's controlling resources everywhere. | ||
| We're like Rome times a million. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think if you were to beam Julius Caesar to the present day. | ||
| He'd be like, God damn Obama. | ||
| Yeah, he would be impressed. | ||
| It would take about an afternoon or two to bring him up to speed on the internet, podcasts, satellites. | ||
| Once you do that, though, they're exactly the same. | ||
| I guess I'm being kind of harsh on Obama, but I think ideologically they're exactly the same kinds of people. | ||
| Well, they're not living in the same time. | ||
| If they were living in the same time, they'd have probably similar behavior. | ||
| You know, that's the thing that people have to realize is that there's so many steps removed from the person in charge of the country or the person in charge of the Army even and the brutalization that happens on the ground. | ||
| You know, and Obama is very, very far removed from the brutalization that happens. | ||
| In fact, the weird new kind of brutalization that happens where everyone's removed except the people that get hit. | ||
| That's what's so strange about drones. | ||
| The idea that someone could be nowhere near where this is happening and do something that causes someone to stop living and that it happens on a regular basis. | ||
| It's the ultimate detachment from reality. | ||
| And it's an excellent technological solution as far as saving troops and all that stuff. | ||
| If you looked at it that way, if you wanted to be pragmatic on the side of Americans, but it's not that effective. | ||
| It kills a lot of people that it's not supposed to kill. | ||
| It kills a lot of kids. | ||
| It's killed many kids. | ||
| And it's creepy. | ||
| There's something creepy about it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's too much disconnection between people you're killing and doing it. | ||
| And it's too easy to do it to Americans where you don't even have to go to trial. | ||
| Speaking of too easy, this will freak everybody out a little bit. | ||
| Oh, Jesus. | ||
| So the list, we've already broken the precedent of targeting and killing American citizens without a trial using drones. | ||
| Four U.S. citizens have been killed that way that we know of. | ||
| And granted, the one guy was an asshole and probably deserved it, but the other three we don't really know. | ||
| The one guy was the guy who broke out. | ||
| He was like some Muslim propagandist. | ||
| If you're actually propagandizing people and inciting them to violence, then you're an asshole and you really kind of get what you deserve. | ||
| But we've now created that slippery slope. | ||
| Not even a slippery slope. | ||
| We've gone down the slope. | ||
| Now we've actually killed American citizens with drones. | ||
| So in the future, court cases will look back to that. | ||
| That's the precedent that we've done it. | ||
| President Obama, the thoughtful liberal constitutional law scholar, thinks that it's okay. | ||
| So it's certainly okay for President Rick Perry to do that. | ||
| Why do you keep saying that? | ||
| Because that's the scariest outcome. | ||
| Stop saying that. | ||
| I think he just recently, I think either in Texas or in Florida, they're trying to make it a felony to even own Florida. | ||
| Yeah, two pipes if you get caught twice. | ||
| So that's why I keep saying that because that's a real possibility is you get somebody like that in the Oval Office and they have all these toys and they use it in the worst ways possible. | ||
| And all you'll hear about it is Aaron Burnett on CNN saying some radical terrorists were killed last night and they happen to be in the United States. | ||
| And most Americans will go, well, good. | ||
| I want to be safe. | ||
| I don't want those people here anyways. | ||
| And you don't look into the fact that, well, what have they actually done? | ||
| They did nothing. | ||
| They were just on the wrong list and they planned on attending some protest and now they're vaporized. | ||
| I'm not saying that's going to happen tomorrow, but I'm saying we've 100% laid the legal groundwork for that to happen. | ||
| Well, that's essentially Kent State 2013 style. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's essentially what it is. | ||
| Or Ruby Ridge or any of that stuff. | ||
| Well, yeah. | ||
| Well, Kent State especially. | ||
| I don't know what really happened on Ruby Ridge. | ||
| I don't know how kooky that dude was when they were shooting at people. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Do you know? | ||
| No, I don't know that story at all. | ||
| I wasn't there, obviously. | ||
| Kent State was just students. | ||
| Just mowing down students. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, the whole us versus them shit, I think, is way harder to pull off today, though, because the cops realize that they're not the Bill de Berg group. | ||
| They're not chilling with Obama, you know, eating caviar on a nuclear submarine. | ||
| Yeah, they're not spending $100 million on their vacation, and their kids are not going to these elite schools. | ||
| Well, it's not only that, they have to know at this point in time that they are the exact cops are exactly the same as the people they're arresting. | ||
| They're just regular citizens. | ||
| A cop is just like you. | ||
| He just has a different job and a different loyalty, and then he becomes a part of a team, and then he has loyalty to that team. | ||
| They cover up for each other, and then you might have a dirty boss, you might have a boss that's good. | ||
| But it's like that's exactly what it becomes. | ||
| It becomes a person, just a person who becomes a part of a community and then assimilates. | ||
| And when the community is rotten, it's very difficult to be clean. | ||
| It's very difficult. | ||
| Look at, I mean, we all assume that Obama was this like super awesome guy, and we all assume that he was going to go in there and switch things up. | ||
| Let's assume that he actually was. | ||
| Let's assume that he actually was who he seemed to be his entire life up until he became president. | ||
| Well, that just goes to show you how rotten the community that he got inserted into. | ||
| He got inserted into some shit that's just completely fucked. | ||
| And it's not too late for him to do the right thing. | ||
| He's a second-term president. | ||
| if he were to go through with just 15% of the stuff he promised on the campaign trail, you start to rein in these things that he was supposed to have done, then it's not too late to change things. | ||
| But I'm not saying that's going to happen. | ||
| I think he has already, he has shown us his cards. | ||
| And whatever remaining shred of respect I had for the guy, I lost it after watching that press conference on June 7th or 8th, where he lied to the American people. | ||
| He said, we're not listening to your phone calls. | ||
| That's not what this program is about. | ||
| A, that's lawyer speak because the metadata tells you so much about people. | ||
| And B, it appears that you actually are listening to phone calls in a lot of cases. | ||
| So either you don't know what your own administration is doing, which is possible, in which case you need to fucking fire those people and have an independent investigation into why they're doing something against your wishes, or you do know about this, and it's a total 180 from everything you said on the campaign trail. | ||
| Like people always say to me, they're like, well, Bush started these programs. | ||
| I don't see why you're giving Obama such a hard time. | ||
| And I go, that's right, but Obama didn't say I'm going to be, you know, aggressively continuing the same path as Bush. | ||
| Young people got out to vote because he said, enough. | ||
| You know, America needs a clean slate. | ||
| We're not doing this post-9-11 craziness anymore. | ||
| We're going to have the rule of law. | ||
| I'm a constitutional law scholar, all that stuff. | ||
| And then we find out that secretly the program has actually been expanding and bringing all these new companies on board to harvest our data. | ||
| And I think that's when I lost that final shred of respect because I'd already been covering like NDAA and the growth of the TSA and all these things that I disagree with. | ||
| And then you're like, wait a second, why are you doing this? | ||
| Now there's no shadow of a doubt. | ||
| You either don't know what your own government is doing, in which case you're bad at your job, or you do know and you're being dishonest with Americans. | ||
| How much power do you think he has? | ||
| He's the most powerful person in the world. | ||
| Do you think that's real? | ||
| I think that's real or else why would it matter so much who we choose? | ||
| I think he's the – I mean, doesn't it get boiled down, first of all, to two parties, which is bullshit. | ||
| Second of all, to two people that are absolutely supported by gigantic corporations? | ||
| It's not like there's any rogue independence that sneaked through. | ||
| He went to war with Libya, basically unilaterally, right? | ||
| I mean, you're an influential guy. | ||
| You can't go on Twitter and decide to start a war with Libya. | ||
| Yeah, but why do you say he? | ||
| You keep saying he. | ||
| But this is where my dispute is. | ||
| It might not be Obama who. | ||
| No, I don't necessarily believe that they would allow a new person to come in every four years and just run shit. | ||
| And that's possible also, because if the NSA is doing what we now know they're doing, what if they're like, look, we know you have all these plans to do A, B, and C for the country, but we have these really kind of embarrassing phone calls between you and whoever his but enough to compromise him and or just maybe just seduce him with that level of well have you have you ever tried to do anything where you have to involve a bunch of people that also get to make decisions yeah it becomes a dick-swinging contract that | ||
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| Yeah, you do. | ||
| You definitely do. | ||
| I benefit. | ||
| You definitely do. | ||
| Wear a condom. | ||
| It's real easy to get caught up in the hustle of how you're living and to not have the ability to step back and take a deep breath and look at the whole thing collectively. | ||
| And what Obama and all these other guys are doing is just playing into the direction that it's been going. | ||
| going and been going forever, but only going right now, at least, on the level that they can achieve. | ||
| It has to be someone at the highest levels of government that can store all the data of all the phone calls all over the world. | ||
| But that's just now. | ||
| I feel like what they can do now by listening to every phone call and reading every text, you're going to be able to do in 100 years from now, five years from now, whatever it is, 10 years from now. | ||
| I don't think there's any room in this world for secrets. | ||
| I think it's a leftover thing that we cherish. | ||
| Financial aspect of being able to spy on people around the world. | ||
| Well, here it gets even deeper. | ||
| What about the financial aspect of resources being broken down to a digital thing? | ||
| Look at what money used to be. | ||
| Money was a gold standard. | ||
| It was set on gold. | ||
| It was $100 worth of gold or something that represented $100 worth of gold. | ||
| It doesn't mean shit anymore. | ||
| It means ones and zeros that are written down on paper somewhere or on a computer. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| That's what it means. | ||
| It's based entirely on confidence. | ||
| You know, and that's obviously a gross simplification of the financial system, but that's just because that's all I can do. | ||
| I don't really understand how it actually works. | ||
| No, it is a total confidence game from what I understand. | ||
| But the bottom line is it doesn't represent anything anymore. | ||
| It's becoming computer. | ||
| It's becoming ones and zeros. | ||
| Well, when we get to that point, which is fucking coming, okay, we want to pretend that everyone hates the idea of socialism. | ||
| Everyone hates the idea of communism, me included. | ||
| You know why? | ||
| Because people are fucking shady, and they don't do their part. | ||
| And it would be great if we all made the exact same amount of money, if we all worked hard, but that's not where people's motivation come from. | ||
| People's motivations come from. | ||
| You work, you achieve something, and then you feel how good that feels, then you want to continue doing that. | ||
| But if you give someone something really easily, they become spoiled and weak and lazy. | ||
| That's the problem with rich kids. | ||
| That's the problem with celebrities. | ||
| Well, that's how we're programmed. | ||
| Our biology. | ||
| I forget where I heard this, but our whole evolutionary process is about picking the easiest lane and staying in that lane. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Once we find something that works for us, you keep doing it until it's been totally exploited and no longer works for you, and then you move on to the next thing. | ||
| And from a survival standpoint, that's a brilliant idea. | ||
| I mean, think about what it used to be like to be a human. | ||
| It's great when we're all hunter-gatherers, not so great when there's 7 billion of us. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And all of our decisions are so interconnected that me deciding to be a selfish asshole actually does impact other people. | ||
| Whereas 100,000 years ago, I could probably pluck as many apples from the tree as I wanted, and it would have no impact. | ||
| Yeah, it's definitely getting stranger and stranger. | ||
| And we're also eliminating, by use of technology, we're eliminating a lot of work. | ||
| There's a lot of things that you don't have to do physically that are done for you. | ||
| Acquiring food, your water comes at the turn of a nozzle, your heat is just a button away. | ||
| I'll go even further than that on you. | ||
| How dare you? | ||
| The number of things that we need money to acquire is actually decreasing every year. | ||
| So, I think a lot of people in this kind of like post-recession America feel like they don't have as much as they should have, which is 100% justified. | ||
| People got fucked. | ||
| But the fact of the matter is, to go on YouTube on your iPad and instantly view the best cooking instructional videos in the world or the best yoga videos, any topic you want to know about, probably the best brain surgery videos, all those topics are free. | ||
| Whereas 10 or 15 years ago, it would cost you thousands of dollars for an Encyclopedia Britannica subscription, and that would only contain a fraction of the information on YouTube. | ||
| The best podcasts in the world, like yours, are free. | ||
| People are accessing them, paying nothing for this content that to get it in, you know, 15 years ago, this kind of content would probably be a premium cable channel, and you would pay $15 or $20 a month for it. | ||
| So all these things are just becoming free. | ||
| That's the whole internet business model. | ||
| And it's going to get to the point where you just don't need to pay for most of the things in your life. | ||
| So college will fade away. | ||
| You'll just self-educate online and meet up once a week with other like-minded people. | ||
| How will you get laid? | ||
| How will you get laid? | ||
| It's very hard to get laid when you're 18 and 19. | ||
| You got to be holed up in a house of people and start drinking. | ||
| Dorm rooms. | ||
| Yeah, you got to get people confused, including yourself. | ||
| I think you're right. | ||
| I think you're absolutely right. | ||
| And I think we are entering into a new era. | ||
| And it's a new era of convergence. | ||
| And this new era, what the government can do now with this NSA shit, we're all going to be able to do to each other. | ||
| And we have to realize that. | ||
| That is coming, goddammit. | ||
| You're not going to have any secrets from me, and I'm not going to have any secrets from you. | ||
| And ultimately, I think it is a beautiful thing. | ||
| It sounds fucked up, but I think it's a beautiful thing. | ||
| It's called radical, I think it's called radical transparency. | ||
| This dude, David Brin, I had him on my show, and he wrote The Postman, which is that book that Kevin Costner turned into a movie. | ||
| Which was awesome. | ||
| I thought it was good. | ||
| A lot of people didn't like it. | ||
| It was horrible. | ||
| I thought it was cool. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| It was so bad. | ||
| It was so bad. | ||
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Really? | |
| It was so bad. | ||
| It was great. | ||
| It's like Water World on the land. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I liked it. | ||
| Well, you must have had a really good experience when you watched it. | ||
| Did you watch it with a really pretty girl who smelled good? | ||
| Yeah, were you two fingers deep? | ||
| Hey, easy, man. | ||
| Easy. | ||
| We're talking about love over here. | ||
| Yeah, so this guy, Bryn, talks about radical transparency, which is eventually everything will be known by everyone. | ||
| At least that's what I think it means. | ||
| And that's real, man. | ||
| I feel that. | ||
| I feel that when I get high. | ||
| I do. | ||
| Sometimes when I get high, it sounds so stupid. | ||
| But when I get really stupid high and I'm just alone thinking, that's what I think of. | ||
| I think of, I feel like we are just a few months away. | ||
| It seems like, I know maybe it's years, but I feel like we are just a few months away from everybody hitting some new level of understanding each other. | ||
| Have you noticed that everything is speeding up? | ||
| I feel like even the rate. | ||
| Why'd you get up, Brian? | ||
| You panic? | ||
| The rate of these disclosures about what the government is doing. | ||
| Now it's like every day there's a new breaking leak. | ||
| It's not like it used to be where there's, you know, every now and then some big story. | ||
| Every day there's something huge in the news. | ||
| Look at Turkey where you have a young, tech-savvy population getting sick of this guy who is trying to clamp down. | ||
| You know, he's saying, all right, we've got to ban alcohol and we have to limit and get rid of public affection in public places. | ||
| Oh, jeez. | ||
| Like no more holding hands or kissing. | ||
| And the young people who have spent their whole life on the internet, like, fuck this dude. | ||
| Let's all go out and protest. | ||
| And that's what you're seeing in Turkey right now. | ||
| Massive protests. | ||
| Insane. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's not just Turkey. | ||
| Do you see Brazil? | ||
| Do you see what's going on in Sao Paulo? | ||
| Brazil is taking God. | ||
| The Brazilian photos. | ||
| Look at those photos. | ||
| Look up there. | ||
| Jesus, man. | ||
| And why can't we even get 20 people out to an NDAA protest in front of the federal courthouse? | ||
| Because we're weak and we're soft. | ||
| We're like those people that we were talking about. | ||
| We're like the spoiled kids. | ||
| The kids in the khakis. | ||
| We're the people that didn't earn this. | ||
| We're not the same people that fought in World War II, okay? | ||
| It's a different group of humans. | ||
| Those were gritty survivors that just dug their fucking heels in and got shit done. | ||
| And they were scared. | ||
| They had just gotten off of the depression. | ||
| They had just gotten off of people waiting in soup lines. | ||
| And people just got shit done. | ||
| And there was a lot of bad to that too, though, man. | ||
| That sort of like desperado society creates a lot of assholes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, creates a lot of mean motherfuckers that do whatever they got to do to get by. | ||
| I don't think that's necessary either. | ||
| There was a guy sitting next to me earlier today at this restaurant bar I was at getting lunch. | ||
| And he asked to see like a menu. | ||
| And he asked for the price of like a sprite or a Coke. | ||
| I think it was for a Sprite. | ||
| And the guy gave him the price and he like sighed. | ||
| He's like, and then he was asking if there's anything cheaper on the menu. | ||
| He's like, is there anything else? | ||
| Is it? | ||
| And I was thinking, if you're in that kind of place, you should try to find a job. | ||
| And have at least $20 stored up before you walk into a restaurant to get lunch. | ||
| And I feel like there are a lot of people who just are not putting in full effort. | ||
| Well, there's that, and there's also that the amount of jobs available today are shockingly low. | ||
| And they're not good jobs. | ||
| They're not good jobs. | ||
| But I think that, and this is very easy for me to say, obviously, I recognize this 100%. | ||
| So I apologize before I even say it. | ||
| But I think that with desperation comes innovation. | ||
| And I think when you're in a situation where you don't know what the fuck to do, your mind will scramble and you will try to figure out a better way to live your life, whether it's start your own business, whether it's, you know, do something innovative, do something, come up with an idea. | ||
| But through desperation, many incredible ideas have been started. | ||
| And so many great people have stories where they talk about rock bottom. | ||
| They were fucking eating ketchup sandwiches in their shitty one-bedroom apartment, and then they went fucking crazy and created a business. | ||
| Whatever it is that takes you to figure out how to find your place in the world, understand this. | ||
| It's difficult. | ||
| It's going to be puzzling along the way. | ||
| You're going to not know whether you go left or right, whether you should sacrifice your morals for performance or for success. | ||
| There's going to be moments where You don't know what to do and what not to do, but you can get through it. | ||
| Other people have. | ||
| Other people have been poor and then not been poor anymore. | ||
| Other people have been miserable and then figured out a way to be happy. | ||
| Other people have been lonely and figured out a way to be loved and to be worth being loved, you know, which is like step one. | ||
| It's possible, but it's not fucking easy. | ||
| And the government's not helping. | ||
| That's the problem. | ||
| We don't have any real leaders. | ||
| What we have is a bunch of people that decide what we can't do. | ||
| And that's all we have. | ||
| They're preventing innovation because you talked about that desperation, how it breeds people to come up with the right solution. | ||
| That's actually happening. | ||
| You look at all the innovation in terms of people like this Federal Reserve stuff is bullshit. | ||
| It doesn't make sense anymore for us to do things in this way. | ||
| So you have Bitcoin is created a few years ago and other digital currencies. | ||
| And the government, instead of stepping back, which is what The Economist magazine in an editorial said that the government should do is just leave this alone, let it grow for a little while. | ||
| This could be the next, you know, in the same way that America made a lot of money off the internet in the 90s. | ||
| Digital currency could be the next boom, or at least one of them. | ||
| And instead of allowing this thing to grow and see what comes out of it, they're already cracking down big time. | ||
| Now, what are they cracking down on? | ||
| And is there any justification for that cracking down? | ||
| Like, is it completely unregulated? | ||
| So is it open for scammers? | ||
| There are so many laws on the books in terms of financial stuff that if you're not one of the big three banks, they can throw anything at you until you run out of money. | ||
| So in the Bitcoin example, they went after Homeland Security, which this is not a terrorist thing. | ||
| So I'm not really sure why it's their concern anyway. | ||
| But a bunch of nerds trading digital currency is not a threat to the United States. | ||
| And Homeland Security froze the account that was one of the big exchanges accounts in the United States. | ||
| Their Wells Fargo account, they froze it, which is like just freezing part of that network to get money in and out of Bitcoin. | ||
| So Bitcoin is still fine because there are other providers who don't have as much of a U.S. footprint. | ||
| But the fact that they're even doing that shit means that they are concerned about it. | ||
| And instead, they should be doing the opposite. | ||
| It should be like, we're going to give grants, government grants, to startups that are exploring digital currency because this could be the future of the world. | ||
| And I'd rather see America be the ones to create it instead of it being created in Europe or as the case is with Bitcoin being created in Japan. | ||
| We're losing out on this one. | ||
| We're losing out with stem cells where, you know, under Bush, we got all this retarded stuff about not exploring stem cells. | ||
| And so other countries just were like, we'll do it. | ||
| And now if you're a wealthy American and you want to get some kind of stem cell operation, from what I understand, you have to fly to one of these other countries. | ||
| Germany. | ||
| Yeah, Germany. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Dana White just got back from Germany. | ||
| He's telling me how awesome it is. | ||
| Kobe Bryant went there. | ||
| And that's money that the U.S. is losing out on. | ||
| U.S. jobs, you know, it's fucked up just because our government is acting in this regressive way instead of what we're supposed to be about, which is entrepreneurship. | ||
| But that's where the big thing becomes, like, what we're supposed to be about. | ||
| Hey, be careful. | ||
| Don't spill it on your generic laptop. | ||
| That's not an Apple. | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| This is an Apple for the TV show that we duct taped it. | ||
| It's called Greeking because you make it so that it's indecipherable. | ||
| Is that because Apple will want money or is it the other way around? | ||
| Maybe the other way around. | ||
| Like Sony won't want to give us money. | ||
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| So for the TV show. | ||
| Salute, my brother. | ||
| Yeah, for the TV show. | ||
| after you do that. | ||
| Official shit. | ||
| I almost forgot we were on TV or on the internet or something, whenever we are. | ||
| All this stuff that you say, like, I know that you're not, like, a cynical person, which is like really hard for people to believe if you listen to all the things you say. | ||
| I'm super optimistic. | ||
| Yeah, isn't that crazy? | ||
| I wrote an e-book about how our future is actually a really positive one. | ||
| And even this stuff that I talk about now, they're just road bumps on the way to what is going to be complete, I think probably complete abundance. | ||
| We had to get through Nixon to get to Clinton. | ||
| I think Clinton was a high point for this country. | ||
| I really do. | ||
| You know, there was certainly a lot of fuckery going on during the Clinton administration. | ||
| And there was some, you know, it's not to say that people didn't die or there weren't operations that went on that I'm sure you or I wouldn't have approved of. | ||
| But other than that, it was a time of prosperity, and it seemed like a time where everything seemed like it was going to be okay. | ||
| And something happened during the Bush administration where everything went dark, and it didn't feel like it was going to be okay at all. | ||
| And my perception of America and the world itself changed radically from the 1990s to the 2000s. | ||
| It was a totally different world. | ||
| In the 1990s, the biggest dilemma was that they wanted to impeach Clinton because he got hit. | ||
| It was hilarious. | ||
| And there were articles in Time magazine about how people have too much money. | ||
| We're creating too many dot-com millionaires. | ||
| What do we do with this? | ||
| This is amazing. | ||
| And that was our problem. | ||
| Real estate prices in the valley are too high. | ||
| What are we going to do as a country? | ||
| And that people were buying a house and then selling it six months later for twice what they bought it for. | ||
| It was just, it was cuckoo. | ||
| And Vladimir Putin, I remember this quote that he said, he said, I don't understand the American economy. | ||
| They seem to just buy and sell each other's houses. | ||
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| Boy, what a shitty accent that was. | ||
| Thanks for not calling me out. | ||
| I saw this on Reddit in Soviet Russia. | ||
| Internet browses you. | ||
| No, it was in Soviet America because they're making fun of the NSA program. | ||
| Oh, that's funny. | ||
| That's even funnier because it's so true. | ||
| It is what it is. | ||
| We've become exactly what we thought they were doing, spying on all their citizens, trying to prevent dissent because they lived in a shithole country and they didn't want freedom. | ||
| Or they didn't want them to get freedom. | ||
| That's what we always felt about Russia. | ||
| That was always our jab about Russia. | ||
| Like, oh, those poor fucks. | ||
| Have you seen the Steve Wozniak video? | ||
| No, I haven't. | ||
| You guys got to pull that up. | ||
| What is it? | ||
| Pull it up. | ||
| He was in an airport and these Spanish language reporters came up to him for their blog or whatever, and they were asking him about the NSA program and I think about just like the future of America. | ||
| And he talks about, I don't want to quote him exactly, but he talks about how America has kind of lost its way and how we're becoming more like Soviet Russia. | ||
| And for him to say that, because he's a super positive, like sweet dude, the co-founder of Apple, insanely rich, but still so down to earth that he'll talk to anybody. | ||
| That's just the video right now. | ||
| Yeah, that's the video. | ||
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| Yeah, I think I like all the visual stuff better than before. | ||
| Yeah, he's talking about a phone first, but he gets into it. | ||
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Android phones overall. | |
| A lot of third-party apps and things like that. | ||
| So that wasn't really great new establishment. | ||
| Other countries, when they got prisoners in a war, they tortured. | ||
| But we Americans did torture them. | ||
| We gave them good food and clothing and everything. | ||
| And I was so proud of my country. | ||
| And now I find out it's just the opposite. | ||
| And I just wish all these things I talk about the Constitution that made us so good as people, they're kind of nothing. | ||
| They all dissolved with the Patriot Act. | ||
| And there's just all these laws that say we can just sort of secretly call anything terrorism and do anything we want without all these rights of courts to get in and say they're doing the wrong things. | ||
| There's not even a free open court anymore. | ||
| And they read the Constitution. | ||
| I don't know how all this stuff got happened. | ||
| It's so clear. | ||
| That's exactly what the Constitution says. | ||
| Extremely clear in the Bill of Rights. | ||
| One thing after another after another that just got overturned. | ||
| And that's what a king does. | ||
| A king just goes out. | ||
| Has anyone rounded up, killed, put in secret prisoners? | ||
| When I was brought up, we were taught that communist Russia was the ones that were going to kill us and bomb our country and all this. | ||
| And communist Russia was so bad because they followed their people, they snooped on them, they arrested them, they put them in secret prisons, they disappeared them. | ||
| These kind of things were part of Russia. | ||
| Kind of breaks your heart, right? | ||
| Because this is a guy who made it in America based on what we believe in. | ||
| And now he's in an airport. | ||
| He's middle-aged, and he's seeing that this revolution that he was a part of, the technology revolution, is being used against people instead of being used to help people out. | ||
| We have a real problem with the leadership of this world. | ||
| And when I say this world, I don't mean in any sort of New World Order sense. | ||
| I mean the leadership across the board, every single country, everywhere you go, every single leader of every single nation, we don't have a leadership that fits in with the psychedelic nature of 2013. | ||
| And when I say psychedelic nature, I don't even mean drugs. | ||
| I mean the idea behind psychedelics, when someone talks about having a psychedelic experience and, oh my God, it was like a psychedelic trip. | ||
| What they mean, besides the hallucination aspect, is that this trip has transcended them, has moved them into this new place, has made them step back and look at it. | ||
| It could be a near-death experience. | ||
| It could be the loss of a friend. | ||
| It could be a pet dying. | ||
| It could be a new, you getting fired and getting a new job. | ||
| There's many things in life. | ||
| You could see a starlit night and it's a psychedelic experience. | ||
| That is where we're going. | ||
| Where we're going is newer booms, newer woes, newer connections, newer understandings, newer uncoverings of hidden truths. | ||
| We're getting closer and closer to each other. | ||
| And what the government is doing is the exact opposite of that. | ||
| What they're trying to do is control, get people scared, control resources, dictate their rules on as many people as possible, make it so they can't be prosecuted for the same thing they actually prosecute people for, but never be called hypocritical, control all the resources. | ||
| What they're doing is non-psychedelic. | ||
| What they're doing is what the ego does when it's desperate, when it's sad, when you're trying to cover up for a lie, when you're trying to pretend you're something you're not. | ||
| Deal with mortality. | ||
| You know, if you think you need complete control over other people, that's some kind of weird foil to get around the fact that you're going to be dead in 30 years. | ||
| Our society needs to be psychedelic. | ||
| And I don't say that in the way that a lot of people think. | ||
| A lot of people think when you say something should be psychedelic, like, oh man, you just want to escape reality, you fucking hippie. | ||
| That's not what I mean. | ||
| I mean embrace reality. | ||
| Embrace reality in its broadest sense possible. | ||
| In its broadest sense possible, we are all exactly the same. | ||
| And I don't mean that in any hippie sort of a way. | ||
| I mean that we are temporary beings on this strange course that no one understands. | ||
| And we all have a certain amount of years to recognize that we're on this thing and that this thing is going to end and it's going to end badly. | ||
| The body's going to stop working. | ||
| The cells will reproduce incorrectly. | ||
| Your stature change. | ||
| Your health fades. | ||
| Your energy wanes. | ||
| Your intellect goes away. | ||
| Goes away. | ||
| You're a child. | ||
| And then you die. | ||
| So during that time, we have to figure out what is this? | ||
| What is this? | ||
| And what are we trying to do here? | ||
| And if what you're trying to do is control resources and dominate people and make as much money as possible, you are just as sad as some kid who's born in Ethiopia where there's no food. | ||
| You're just as sad as someone who is on an island that doesn't have any books. | ||
| It's all a miss. | ||
| It's all a miss. | ||
| And the psychedelic society of 2013, the transcendent experience of the internet, the ability to communicate with each other from long distances instantaneously, that's very psychedelic. | ||
| I was watching an interview with one of the engineers at Google who oversees YouTube. | ||
| And just the process of a YouTube video uploading and then propagating on all their cache servers is kind of psychedelic in the sense that within seconds of your video being uploaded, less than that, like immediately, it's on servers all over the planet. | ||
| Because when you go to a YouTube video, it's serving you the video from a server that's relatively close to you. | ||
| Maybe one in California or something. | ||
| Somebody in South America is getting a local version of their YouTube video. | ||
| And then all the data on the hits from each of those local servers is coming together. | ||
| And that's the YouTube view counter of how many hits the video has. | ||
| So it's actually coming from all these different data centers. | ||
| It's not one number. | ||
| It's a bunch of numbers that are being put together. | ||
| And just the way he explained it, I was like, this is fucking insane. | ||
| You know, like that somebody in their basement, somebody like the big famous video bloggers out there can put up their video and within seconds, it's literally all over the world. | ||
| And if that idea has any kind of value, it propagates within hours. | ||
| Like that Edward Snowden video was on the homepage of YouTube because so many people found it to be significant. | ||
| It rose right to the top. | ||
| I think we all are going to have to accept a new paradigm, including the government. | ||
| And the government's trying to stave off that paradigm by creating a bunch of rules and by taking away people's rights. | ||
| But they're not going to be able to. | ||
| And by having so many rules that you can selectively enforce it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, I'm sure the stuff they're using against Bitcoin, they're not using against Bank of America or Citibank. | ||
| Yeah, well, the selective enforcement aspect of it is funny because what they're trying to do is they're trying to control judgment. | ||
| They're trying to control the will of the people. | ||
| They're trying to control the popular opinion. | ||
| They're trying to control human beings as a resource because all the power comes through the human beings. | ||
| It all flows from the money, from the taxes, from the votes, from the whatever, that you get into a position of power and you're the top of that pyramid, then you can enforce regulations and rules and change things and you can do things that people never want. | ||
| Like the NDAA. | ||
| When all of a sudden you have indefinite detention and people don't even get lawyers. | ||
| You're like, what? | ||
| Russia doesn't even do that. | ||
| I think one of my... | ||
| They might. | ||
| I don't know enough about Russia. | ||
| They probably would do that. | ||
| I just know that RT is filled with nice people. | ||
| They are very nice. | ||
| Isn't that weird? | ||
| It's like you would think Russia today would be like the shittiest bunch of assholes. | ||
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| Yeah, I forgot what I was going to say because I was thinking about Russia today. | ||
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But what were we talking about here? | |
| We were talking about the America. | ||
| Oh, yeah, I know that. | ||
| But it'll come to me. | ||
| I had the specific idea about something. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| It's all this Jameson. | ||
| It's kind of going in my brain. | ||
| Whiskey's not good for the dome. | ||
| The government likes it. | ||
| Don't they try to take that away? | ||
| Then the real riots will be. | ||
| That's what would really need. | ||
| Take away liquor. | ||
| Liquor and cigarettes. | ||
| Make it all illegal. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Hey, hey, hey, calm down. | ||
| Oh, that's what I'm saying. | ||
| You want to have a real revolution? | ||
| I remember what I was going to say. | ||
| Sorry about that. | ||
| I have this kind of science fiction dystopian view that when the NDAA was signed, and you know I was vocal about this non-stop. | ||
| When that was signed, that was one of these branches or forks in history where we should have all come out. | ||
| We should have all came out and protested. | ||
| And people who had positions of power, you know, TV anchors and senators who were not compromised by their own parties, should have said, this is fucking bullshit. | ||
| Since when can you imprison American citizens without a trial on the basis of suspicion alone? | ||
| That's fundamentally un-American. | ||
| It makes North Korea look like on the same level as us to do that shit. | ||
| Why would we allow that? | ||
| This needs to be immediately fixed. | ||
| You know, like next week we need an amendment to fix whatever the fuck you did on New Year's Eve. | ||
| But instead, life just kind of went on as normal. | ||
| And it was like a Twilight Zone episode. | ||
| You know, I noticed this group of activists and journalists raised money and they went to New York to fight this shit in federal court. | ||
| And they could barely afford the legal and the travel costs. | ||
| And they're fighting the most powerful government on earth in court, which can keep throwing money at this forever. | ||
| And that's when I started to lose faith in this system because I'm like, why are they doing this? | ||
| You know, Obama had the signing statement saying that he signed it into law, but he doesn't like this provision. | ||
| He doesn't trust that provision. | ||
| Well, then why do you keep fighting for that right in court? | ||
| If you don't want that and you signed it away in your signing statement, then why do you keep fighting for it in federal court? | ||
| And at that point, I was like, this is fucked. | ||
| I think it's, again, what you keep saying, why do you? | ||
| Why does he? | ||
| Why do you? | ||
| I don't think it's a you. | ||
| I don't think it's a he. | ||
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Well, then you have to place blame somewhere. | |
| We certainly do. | ||
| If you go to a Walmart. | ||
| But it's like a corporation type blame. | ||
| Well, that's valid, though. | ||
| If you go to a Walmart and you slip on the floor because the floor is dirty and wet, you write a letter to the CEO, even though he wasn't personally there to mop that floor. | ||
| And the same way, Obama is the figurehead for this federal government in its current form. | ||
| So if we can't place the blame there, if we can't petition him to make things better, who can we petition? | ||
| Well, that's a good question, but I think that it's impossible at this point in the game to control the whole thing. | ||
| There's no way. | ||
| There's no way he could have his fingers in every hole in the dike. | ||
| There's just too much going on. | ||
| That's not what I meant. | ||
| Yeah, it is. | ||
| Right after I said it, I'm like, fuck. | ||
| There's no way. | ||
| And I think the idea that he's responsible for everything the government does, it's preposterous because there's no way you could be. | ||
| There's no way you could have a handle on all that shit. | ||
| There's no way. | ||
| There's too many things going on. | ||
| You got the FBI, the NSA, the DEA, the FBI, the Coast Guard, the Air Force, the Army, the Marines, the Navy SEALs, the Green Berets. | ||
| Come on, the Rangers. | ||
| You don't know what the fuck everybody's doing. | ||
| You can't know what the fuck everybody's doing. | ||
| It's ridiculous. | ||
| The idea that we have an Obama in the first place, that we have a president, that we have one dude. | ||
| This is some weird ancient alpha male chimpanzee bullshit. | ||
| That we have a human being that we spend hundreds of millions of dollars of our collective taxpayer money to fly that person somewhere else with 14 limousines and bulletproof glass everywhere. | ||
| It's like some kind of fetishization of a personality. | ||
| You know, it's one thing to have celebrities because at the end of the day, celebrities are chosen by us. | ||
| You know, that's what it comes down to is we choose who we want to focus an unhealthy amount of attention on, like the Kardashians. | ||
| Collectively, we choose that. | ||
| But how many people are actively choosing to pay for somebody like Obama? | ||
| Or by the way, President Bush took expensive vacations also. | ||
| Who exactly decided this kind of imperial system we have now where you're vesting so much power in that one person, and yet, like you said, this makes a lot of sense. | ||
| That person doesn't have all that much influence to actually change course. | ||
| So then why are we treating them like they're a god? | ||
| Because it's a figurehead. | ||
| It's someone that you have at the head of your organization. | ||
| We still, as chimpanzees, you know, or as the descendants or the ancestors or whatever the fuck we are, the new breed of talking ape. | ||
| How do we get past the chimpanzees into that thing? | ||
| I think we need mushrooms. | ||
| I really do. | ||
| Sounds like, you know, sounds like hippie nonsense, but I really think just logically, if it's not mushrooms, we need something that brings us all together. | ||
| It might be ecstasy. | ||
| One of my most profound psychedelic experiences I ever had was on ecstasy, and I only did it once because the rebound of it was way too strong. | ||
| The next day, I can't remember. | ||
| You suffer a crash the next day? | ||
| Oh, it was horrible. | ||
| It was horrible. | ||
| And I don't know if it's just me or if it was mixed with something or whatever it was. | ||
| Did you do any pills with it? | ||
| Like 5-HTP or anything on it? | ||
| Because you won't have that. | ||
| You just had a really bad experience because you didn't pre-plan it and post-plan it. | ||
| Yeah, I took two pills too. | ||
| I think you're only supposed to take one the first time you do it or whatever. | ||
| But whatever. | ||
| The point is, it was profound, and it made me understand a lot about insecurities, mine and other people's, about love and about what's possible if you're warm. | ||
| You know, the warmth and friendliness and happiness, that shit is contagious. | ||
| And it spreads. | ||
| And good energy spreads just as easily as bad energy does. | ||
| But good energy is way better. | ||
| It's way better for you. | ||
| It feels better. | ||
| And it's possible for anyone to change in midstream. | ||
| It's possible for anyone to just start slowly adjusting their life into a more harmonious path. | ||
| And that includes all the people that are running shit. | ||
| And guess what? | ||
| Along the way, a lot of you motherfuckers are probably going to wind up getting busted doing something stupid. | ||
| You know, there's probably a lot of people right now that have like gambling problems or, you know, prostitution problems or, you know, X, fill in the blank. | ||
| That it's all going to come to light. | ||
| All of it's going to come to light. | ||
| There's no way to avoid it. | ||
| But I think ultimately it's the best thing for everybody that we are moving in a way, and this is very science fiction utopian, but we're moving in a way where we're going to merge consciousness. | ||
| That seems to me to be the only step that's at the end of this path. | ||
| If you look at what's going on, the complete lack of privacy that we now have in regards to the way we interface with the government. | ||
| The government can check your emails. | ||
| The government can check your text. | ||
| The government can check your Twitter. | ||
| And I think eventually you and I are going to have that same issue. | ||
| We're all going to be able to access all of each other's emails. | ||
| We're all going to be able to contact each other. | ||
| We're all going to be able to... | ||
| Well, the only thing that comes after that is some sort of a convergence of consciousness. | ||
| It's going to be, whether it's technologically created or whether it's biologically induced as the next step in evolution, whatever the fuck it is. | ||
| It seems like that's where it's going. | ||
| I mean, otherwise, what does it do? | ||
| It just stops? | ||
| Unless we all unplug. | ||
| I mean, none of us, that's the one thing that we're not forced to have a cell phone. | ||
| We're not forced to do any of this. | ||
| We could just like seriously turn off our phone and then we're off the map. | ||
| I honestly think the only thing that would get more than a few random weirdos to unplug is a cataclysmic disaster. | ||
| Something that wipes out cell phone signals, a massive solar flare that torches every satellite, makes us start from scratch, whatever it is, something that fries every fucking electrical system all over the globe. | ||
| I've had weirdos contact me and they're like, I would like to share your stuff, but I don't use Facebook because of the, you know, they track you. | ||
| I'm like, oh, well, you can, you know, you can post it on Twitter, I guess, or whatever. | ||
| Like, why don't you Twitter either? | ||
| Like, you could post it on message board. | ||
| Like, well, I use Tor encryption or I use the Tor browser. | ||
| I don't like to go to websites too frequently. | ||
| And you're like, then just don't fucking live. | ||
| You know, like, if you're going to be that paranoid, that you think that Twitter and Facebook are concerned about everything you're posting. | ||
| Well, not only that, and you have no influence. | ||
| You're just the nobody in the forest. | ||
| And are you doing shady shit 24-7? | ||
| You know, the government, if you want to beat off this, I'm going to offer the government something. | ||
| If you want to beat off the same websites I beat off to, look at my history. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
| I'm not doing anything negative. | ||
| I'm not fighting the power. | ||
| Who? | ||
| Who? | ||
| I do beat off a lot. | ||
| Got new fetters of a porn you got to check out, man. | ||
| Lesbians getting dick for their first time. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| It's great. | ||
| And I was talking to this lesbian the other day, and she's like, yeah, I broke up with this girl that was in a relationship for a long time, and I went right to having dick, you know, for like a month, and then I went right back to lesbian. | ||
| You mean a strap on her? | ||
| Like a clue? | ||
| No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. | ||
| She decided to fuck a guy that she was friends with. | ||
| So what happened? | ||
| And she says it was great, but she's back into lesbian now because for whatever reasons. | ||
| So I've been looking up porn, like lesbian gets first dick ever. | ||
| And there's just like these butch dykes, and they're just like, what the fuck? | ||
| This is amazing. | ||
| It's great. | ||
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It's good. | |
| It's a good new search. | ||
| So they get dick for the first time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I think they're all in denial. | ||
| All you girls out there that say you don't like dick, we ain't never had dick. | ||
| And that's how they all are. | ||
| Haven't had the right one yet. | ||
| That's how every guy feels. | ||
| I have a joke in my act about that, about how no guy see two girls working out. | ||
| Okay, stop. | ||
| I quit. | ||
| Joke's over. | ||
| No guy sees two girls making out and says, oh, too bad they don't like dudes. | ||
| Guys don't think like that. | ||
| You go, I just got to get in there. | ||
| You just get closer. | ||
| While we're talking about dicks, there was a funny story on Reddit recently. | ||
| You know how you always say powerful and now it's like everybody uses powerful? | ||
| I stole that from my friend Larry, by the way. | ||
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Everybody uses it. | |
| I think Verizon uses powerful now in their ad campaign. | ||
| They should send you a royalty check. | ||
| So people take up other people's phrases. | ||
| People say powerful now because of what you say. | ||
| And on Reddit, this guy was complaining that his college roommate was one of those people who just absorbs all the social stuff around him and uses other people's phrases immediately. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And just adopts their personality. | ||
| So as a prank, they played on this guy. | ||
| They started all saying dick in my ass. | ||
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Whenever something bad would happen, or they would lose it, Halo. | |
| And within a week, this guy is showing up to his class late and yelling like, dick in my ass. | ||
| Like, I knew I should have showed up earlier. | ||
| I'm just saying it all the time. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| That's hilarious. | ||
| It was a plot. | ||
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Yeah, it was just carefully orchestrated test. | |
| That's so rude and mean. | ||
| Oh, the poor guy. | ||
| I bet he feels devastated. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| Knowing that he was played like that. | ||
| That's so common, though, if you're insecure, especially. | ||
| When I was really young, I had a Boston accent. | ||
| I didn't even live in Boston that long. | ||
| I lived in Boston from the time I was 13 until I was like 24. | ||
| But I had a Boston accent. | ||
| And I didn't realize until I heard myself on TV. | ||
| I was 19. | ||
| I heard myself on TV just getting interviewed. | ||
| And it was like, ah, we've been working really hard. | ||
| I was like, oh, no. | ||
| I realized that I wanted to be like everybody else so badly. | ||
| I started talking like that. | ||
| Well, it's also very strong. | ||
| It's like shit in a pool almost. | ||
| You know, it's just going to stick really, you know. | ||
| Yeah, but I moved there when I was 13, so six years later, I have a stupid accent. | ||
| That's ridiculous. | ||
| No, I was a sheep. | ||
| I was scared. | ||
| I wanted to be like everybody around me. | ||
| I wanted to fit right in. | ||
| You know how they used to talk weird in the 40s and 50s? | ||
| Oh, yeah, same. | ||
| The Don Draper of Company. | ||
| Did they really? | ||
| Well, how'd they talk? | ||
| Give me an example. | ||
| Just like the adman voice. | ||
| On the battlefront tonight, blah, blah, blah. | ||
| You know, it's very official. | ||
| Oh, you mean in the media they did this? | ||
| Yeah, like anchors and actors and actresses, too. | ||
| I would like to know what they talked like in real life, though. | ||
| I read this recently. | ||
| Apparently, that accent is called, it's either called the transatlantic or the transcontinental accent. | ||
| And it was not actually used by Americans back then. | ||
| It was something that was taught in boarding school. | ||
| It was considered like the proper way to speak. | ||
| So if you were a TV anchor or a famous actor, you would use that on set. | ||
| But Americans back then spoke like us, which blows my mind. | ||
| What? | ||
| I thought that they all talked like, you know, like madmen, or not mad men, like the 20 years before that. | ||
| I thought that was real. | ||
| But that's just the way they talk on TV and on radio. | ||
| And then when they're offset, they're talking like us. | ||
| Is there any documentaries? | ||
| You might want to fact check this one to get more info, but I'm pretty certain I'm right on this. | ||
| Could you imagine Jersey Shore from the 30s? | ||
| No, I can't, actually. | ||
| They're all riding around in model teas and fucking, you know, I mean, just imagine what it would have been like to be around some people that just survived. | ||
| Let's touch some maples tonight. | ||
| That's why I like to watch Boardwalk Empire because you're seeing, I mean, it's probably glamorized, obviously, but it's just entertaining as hell to see people in that time period. | ||
| That's a brilliant show, but it is probably glamorized. | ||
| That's the problem with anything in regards to history. | ||
| There's so much guesswork. | ||
| There's so much... | ||
| But then again, how comfortable would they be on camera? | ||
| That's the real issue. | ||
| You would have to experience it yourself. | ||
| And it's hard to reach back into your memory and have an accurate account of anything more than five or six years ago, really, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, this is all such new stuff. | ||
| Like, I saw a black and white photo set of these guys getting their after-work drinks at some pub in England. | ||
| And so that, to me, seemed like an accurate picture of what was happening then, because you see that these dudes are just drinking after work. | ||
| No cell phones on the table, no bullshit. | ||
| Just like average work, because you don't have any technology back then. | ||
| And you could see that their clothes were not as polished as you see in all the movies from that era. | ||
| You could see tatters and stuff. | ||
| And you're like, oh, they're actually living through a pretty tough time. | ||
| You can see that without the gloss that's been applied to other shows. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Still, it's like, if you could go back and live in a time like that. | ||
| I would love to do that. | ||
| Would you really? | ||
| Especially if you could pick an era. | ||
| Especially knowing which companies were going to take off. | ||
| Oh, no, no, no. | ||
| You can't do that, man. | ||
| That's illegal. | ||
| I would love to live in 1920s, even the 1930s, as long as you're not in one of the poor families. | ||
| If you're doing well in the 30s, they did better than anybody. | ||
| Yeah, but you would be faced with so much despair. | ||
| You'd be sad. | ||
| If you looked around and saw the people. | ||
| They cordoned themselves off from that in the same way that we did. | ||
| So you'd be cool with that? | ||
| I'm not saying I'd be cool with it, but look at the fact that when this iPhone dies, it's going to be picked apart by some child and somewhere in India, some trash heap for the precious metals inside it. | ||
| We still have all that same shit. | ||
| It's just been distanced from us. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I think people back then had an amazing life if they're in a certain social strata. | ||
| This is 1939 color footage, which is very rare for that year. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| That girl was hot. | ||
| She's balling in 39. | ||
| Isn't it funny that that is someone who's probably four feet tall now, arched over, and it's almost over. | ||
| She's creeping around. | ||
| It might not be. | ||
| She might be the crypt keeper now. | ||
| 105. | ||
| It's unbelievable. | ||
| It's like we just, we have a short amount of time here. | ||
| I think about how weird it is that all those people smoked constantly. | ||
| So even like the hottest girl you'd hook up with is somebody who's smoking a couple packs a day, has like lines all over their face from just non-stop smoking all the time. | ||
| Have you ever met someone and then you saw them again in like five years and it was like a hundred years had gone by? | ||
| Yeah, some people do not age well. | ||
| Oh, well, if someone gets on meth, that's the big one. | ||
| I've seen alcohol, yeah, I guess. | ||
| I like to tell myself that it's preserving. | ||
| It's preserving my body. | ||
| Alcohol is? | ||
| That's what I like to tell myself. | ||
| It might be in a way because you relax a little bit and maybe you feel a little bit more positive energy and that counteracts all the cuntiness in the world. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know, there's definitely some benefit to alcohol, but you're poisoning yourself. | ||
| Did you hear that? | ||
| I wanted to see if you saw that article that was on today.com about bulletproof coffee. | ||
| I don't know if you saw that or not. | ||
| No, I did not. | ||
| What did it say? | ||
| It's bad? | ||
| Well, they said that the reports of putting butter in your coffee. | ||
| Today.com? | ||
| What's it called? | ||
| Here, I'll get the link up for you. | ||
| I tweeted it earlier. | ||
| They're saying that there's no evidence that butter in your coffee does anything, but has more calories. | ||
| Here's the actual article. | ||
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| Well, let me just give you some input right away. | ||
| First of all, coffee, caffeine, has shown to have benefits. | ||
| Shown to have benefits on cognitive function. | ||
| Shown to have obvious benefits on energy. | ||
| So there's that. | ||
| Then when you take coffee with grass-fed butter and MCT oil. | ||
| Yeah, they talk about the MCT oil here. | ||
| What it does is it makes it a slower digestible thing. | ||
| Like it takes a longer time for your body to process it. | ||
| Whereas if you have just like a Venti Starbucks black, that goes like right in your bloodstream, son. | ||
| Yeah, when you have bulletproof coffee, if you have grass-fed butter and MCT oil, you're going to get a lot more calories, and it's a lot fatter, and it's all blended together. | ||
| And so it will take hours for your body to digest that as opposed to just the straight coffee. | ||
| I've lost weight using MCT oil. | ||
| MCT oil is very good for you. | ||
| There's no debate about that. | ||
| If you don't know what it is, it's medium-chain triglyceride oil, and it's the most healthy aspect of coconut oil. | ||
| They take coconut oil and they have some sort of a process with a centrifuge. | ||
| Coconut oil is one of the best things I've heard, one of the best oils you can use to jerk off, too. | ||
| Yeah, it's supposed to be really good for that. | ||
| That's what I hear, too. | ||
| I just hear. | ||
| So if you don't have an issue with cholesterol, I wouldn't think there's anything wrong with bulletproof coffee. | ||
| But if you do have an issue with cholesterol, you're dealing with, even though everybody says it's healthy cholesterol, we live in a strange world. | ||
| And some people have like real health problems with all sorts of things that for other folks would be no problem whatsoever. | ||
| So if you're thinking about taking, you know, bulletproof coffee, you know, look into it. | ||
| Find out where you're, you know, where your body's at, unless you know you're okay. | ||
| But if you're okay with high cholesterol foods or high calorie foods, the benefit of the bulletproof coffee recipe is that it takes a longer time for you to digest it. | ||
| So basically, it said all the benefits of coffee with a slower digestion period. | ||
| So there's nothing mysterious about it. | ||
| There's nothing magical about it. | ||
| Well, the amount that you drink every day, which is a huge like Starbucks, like, what is that, Trenta? | ||
| Trenta canister in dogs. | ||
| 20 ounces. | ||
| So they're saying like each cup of coffee, just cup of coffee has about 100 to 200 calories in it. | ||
| So you're eating a ton of calories. | ||
| That's enough, and that's not including the fat. | ||
| But what they're all about. | ||
| No, it's including the fat. | ||
| That's the whole idea. | ||
| That's not where your calories come from. | ||
| Yeah, but some diets you're looking at calories and fat intake. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And this is saying that the claim here is that MCT, because it's faster digestion compared to other fats, is an energy booster. | ||
| But there's no evidence in this. | ||
| But they're pretty much just saying that, you know, be mindful of the extra calories. | ||
| Don't expect weight loss or any extra energy. | ||
| Well, that's not necessarily true because it really is filling. | ||
| And if you take 300 or 400 calories in the form of bulletproof coffee in the morning, you might not eat until 1 o'clock in the afternoon. | ||
| And you might feel good. | ||
| You're not feeling depleted because you're getting all these healthy fats and MCT oil and grass-fed butter. | ||
| And that's where it's really important because grass-fed animals are far healthier than corn-fed animals. | ||
| You can see the difference in the two steak cuts. | ||
| Clearly. | ||
| And this is not hippie bullshit. | ||
| If you look at a cut of grass-fed sirloin, you will see a dark red color. | ||
| It looks leaner. | ||
| It's a different cut of meat. | ||
| Like a grass-fed New York strip is a perfect example. | ||
| There's very little fat on that. | ||
| But if you look at a regular New York strip from corn-fed, you know, you're going to get like this. | ||
| It's more pink. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, it tastes delicious because that fat makes it all juicy and it cooks down, but it's really not as healthy. | ||
| You're not getting as much out of the meat itself. | ||
| It's not as good for you. | ||
| Well, that's the same with butter. | ||
| You're getting butter from an animal that's corn-fed. | ||
| You're going to get this fat, sloppy, stupid cow who's shitting out pus in her milk. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's the same with the same with eggs, I think. | ||
| If you get the regular cheap eggs, they have thin shells, not as much omega-3s versus the more expensive, like cage-free all the colours. | ||
| Cage-free is what you want because they're roaming around and they're eating grass. | ||
| If you can get a chicken that's eating grass, that's a chicken that's healthy. | ||
| But somewhere along the line, somebody figured out, well, we can make more money if we just stack them in like apartment complexes and shove all these chickens in these little boxes and force feed them. | ||
| The Monsanto grass. | ||
| Yeah, it's unfortunate. | ||
| And that's also a part of this whole big picture where people don't want to have to go hunting. | ||
| They don't want to have to go kill a bird. | ||
| They don't want to raise chickens. | ||
| They don't want to raise goats. | ||
| They want to be able to go to McDonald's. | ||
| And they want to be able to just give their money and get their food and be done with it. | ||
| And when you have that, then you're going to have this. | ||
| You're going to have a regular person is not going to be able to just produce for themselves or for a small group of people. | ||
| They're going to have to produce for thousands, maybe even millions. | ||
| And so when a company or a person or a business is producing all this food for millions of people and these millions of people can just pull into these stops with their cars, what you've got is madness. | ||
| You've got this massive disconnect from responsibility. | ||
| To make money off of shit that is that cheap to begin with, you have to be working with really cheap materials. | ||
| So you're cutting costs wherever you can. | ||
| I mean, if you're buying a $3 cheeseburger, what the fuck are you going to do? | ||
| What is in that thing? | ||
| Imagine if someone only paid you $3. | ||
| Say, listen, man, that's what I want you to do. | ||
| I want you to shoot a cow and then take it across the country. | ||
| Cut a chunk of meat out of it. | ||
| And then I want you to grind that meat and then form it into a patty. | ||
| And then I want you to cook it. | ||
| And then I want you to get some lettuce. | ||
| You got to get some lettuce. | ||
| Go get it. | ||
| Go pick the lettuce and then wash it off. | ||
| And then cut some tomatoes and then put a little onion on there. | ||
| And then I want you to make some ketchup. | ||
| And then I want you to make some mustard and swirl it all around. | ||
| And then I want you to cook it and feed it to me. | ||
| How much would that cost? | ||
| $10. | ||
| It'd be $100. | ||
| Look at Norms, man. | ||
| They have steak and eggs for, what, $7? | ||
| That's ridiculous. | ||
| But at least Norms, you sit down. | ||
| You know, Norms is like they're trying to be frugal. | ||
| And it's probably, but at least you sit down. | ||
| This drive-through shit. | ||
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It's the most, the craziest thing ever. | |
| Cheeseburger, please. | ||
| Is that it? | ||
| Yep, that's it. | ||
| $2.50, please. | ||
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$2.50. | |
| That's crazy. | ||
| You give them $2.50 and then you eat it and then you go. | ||
| Like somehow or another, that cow died. | ||
| That bread was cooked. | ||
| The ketchup was manufactured. | ||
| The pickle was pickled. | ||
| It was sliced. | ||
| It was slapped on your butt. | ||
| It takes the social out of eating. | ||
| I think one of the most fun things to do is sit down with people that you're interested in, have like a nice solid dinner, even if it's just a burger or something. | ||
| But now you're in your car by yourself. | ||
| You know, you park because you don't want to be on the highway while you're trying to down this thing. | ||
| You park, you're in your car by yourself, just eating something like an animal. | ||
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Like just trying to consume these shitty calories as quickly as possible so you can get on your way. | |
| Yeah, it's so gross. | ||
| While we're talking about health stuff, I wanted to ask you about flotation tanks Because I did one in Florida recently for the first time. | ||
| Did you like it? | ||
| I liked it a lot, but I didn't get any of the cool visuals that were talked about on the videos. | ||
| How many times did you do it? | ||
| I did it for an hour. | ||
| Oh, once? | ||
| Yeah, just once a farm. | ||
| Toward the end, I saw a dull white flash on my right side, and I thought that somebody had opened the tank, but it was just like me, I guess, fantasizing about the tank being opened because I knew that it was around that time. | ||
| But other than that, there were no visuals at all. | ||
| Yeah, I didn't have much visualizations the first time I did it. | ||
| Okay, so that's normal then. | ||
| Oh, yeah, it's completely normal. | ||
| It's hard to relax. | ||
| You know, it's a weird environment. | ||
| Like the first 15, 20 minutes, you're just freaking out that you're in this weird tank. | ||
| Well, then I could hear my own heartbeat and feel the blood like pumping through my body. | ||
| It's pretty weird. | ||
| Doesn't it feel great, though? | ||
| It's so relaxed. | ||
| And you fly. | ||
| I explained it to somebody. | ||
| It's like taking myself on a date. | ||
| You're just like there. | ||
| It's weird to explain it. | ||
| Yes, that's a good way to describe it. | ||
| Nothing really happened, but at the same time, the rest of that afternoon was awesome. | ||
| Everything was bright. | ||
| And I was almost grateful for stimulation because I'm a very like very intense type A kind of person. | ||
| So to be in a fucking thing for an hour and have nothing going on except for my own thoughts. | ||
| Afterwards, it's like, I'm in traffic driving back from Delray. | ||
| I'm like, this is great. | ||
| I love traffic. | ||
| You know, something to think about. | ||
| I can dodge these other cars. | ||
| That's funny. | ||
| Did you hallucinate at all, Joe, during when you were rolfing? | ||
| No. | ||
| What is rolfing? | ||
| It's painful, but you don't hallucinate. | ||
| I hallucinate when it's painful massages. | ||
| Like the Thai massage the other day, I was just like seeing all this crazy shit and it was so high. | ||
| No. | ||
| I don't like time massages. | ||
| They put you on the ground and they stretch you out. | ||
| You don't like it? | ||
| I love that. | ||
| I like being on a table. | ||
| They oil you up. | ||
| It's nice to be able to do it. | ||
| Yeah, but when they stretch you out, it's better for your body. | ||
| Like it doesn't feel as good, but it's better for your body. | ||
| Like you get the little snail trails everywhere. | ||
| Easy all the easy. | ||
| I don't even know what those are. | ||
| I don't know if I want to know. | ||
| Well, you do want to know. | ||
| You and Brian hook up after the show. | ||
| He'll show you pictures the NSA has doubtless already seen. | ||
| They're going to shut down the program because they're so repulsed by Brian's traffic. | ||
| This is Snail Trail folder 17. | ||
| It's barf. | ||
| It's funny. | ||
| I read that some huge percentage of internet users put their porn in a file called tax return. | ||
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They do like tax returns 2007. | |
| And a lot of people do it. | ||
| So people go just go looking right. | ||
| So if your wife or girlfriend is looking for your computer, last thing she wants to click on is your boring tax return, so it gets skipped over. | ||
| That's funny. | ||
| A friend of mine would just put it under golf. | ||
| It's like, my girlfriend ain't going to look at golf. | ||
| All you have to do is put it in a folder and change the file extension from a folder to like a JPEG and call it something like sample.jpg and then when you try to click on it, nothing will happen because there'll be an error. | ||
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And then when you want to look at your porn, it can switch it back to the folder. | |
| Nice. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No chick's going to figure that out. | ||
| Dude, you're thinking like some next level CSI shit. | ||
| You should really be working for the NSA, dog. | ||
| I already did. | ||
| Why are you wasting all your talent here on podcasts? | ||
| Is there a way to fix this shit, David Seaman? | ||
| Yeah, I'm glad you asked that because, like you said, I am a really positive person. | ||
| I'm not a cynic. | ||
| I'm not somebody who, when you hang out with me, I'm complaining about everything because I think 98% of human existence and probably like 99% of human existence in the United States is amazing. | ||
| You know, I have access to so much entertainment, so much cool shit to do constantly that there's no, if you're bored and you're over the age of 18, it's your own fault, you know? | ||
| But I was watching this lecture that Glenn Greenwald gave at Hampshire College and the videos on YouTube. | ||
| That's how I watched it. | ||
| It's like an hour-long lecture and then a Q ⁇ A session. | ||
| And Glenn Greenwald is the journalist who initially broke this NSA whistleblower story. | ||
| He published it in The Guardian. | ||
| And Glenn Greenwald has been all over civil rights for like years. | ||
| He used to be a lawyer, so he knows his stuff. | ||
| He's super thorough. | ||
| And you would think a guy like that would be really cynical by breaking all these terrible stories about abuses at Guantanamo and all this stuff. | ||
| But he said in his lecture, he was like, the one thing we have to keep in mind is even the most powerful institutions throughout human history are just composed of human beings like you and me. | ||
| And it's been shown throughout history, regardless of the civilization, that when enough human beings get together and decide that that institution is no longer functioning properly and either needs to be shut down or reformed in some way, that happens without exception, pretty much. | ||
| That can happen. | ||
| And we're talking about these agencies as if they're some monolithic thing. | ||
| It's just composed of people who go home at the end of the day and want to see their kids and they want to save up enough money to not work in a cubicle anymore one day. | ||
| And the people outside of that system just don't want to be spied on and they don't want to have this country turn into East Germany where people no longer do anything because they're afraid of the consequences. | ||
| Like you look at East Germany, no great art came out of that country when it was in lockdown. | ||
| No great inventions that I know of. | ||
| And why is that? | ||
| It's because everybody just wants to get by without attracting attention. | ||
| And that's not what the United States should be. | ||
| We're the total opposite of that. | ||
| You get as much attention as you want, and hopefully you'll do something valuable in the process. | ||
| That's our system. | ||
| And if you want more attention than you deserve, there's a repercussion for that. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Then you get slammed down by the people who make fun of the cardinal. | ||
| There's a balance. | ||
| There's a balance. | ||
| But if you get a situation where the normal person is now afraid of what they're saying in their emails and phone calls, how many months does it take before, okay, first of all, the journalism dries up, then the protests dry up, and then the entrepreneurs dry up because they go, I could make this app that'll make it easier for you to pay for your food, but I'm a little bit worried about the government doing what they did to the Bitcoin guys. | ||
| So I'm just going to stay at my shitty job and not develop this incredible app that could be the next PayPal. | ||
| And then before you know it, the U.S. is no longer this innovative hub, and it's all just happening in Europe or in fucking New Zealand where Kim.com is. | ||
| And he's the one who's making all the money off of it because they trust him more than they trust American entrepreneurs. | ||
| That's not what we believe in. | ||
| You know, it's just, I think there's a. | ||
| It's total bullshit. | ||
| Yeah, there's an Ernest Hemingway quote about America. | ||
| This is a fine place and it's worth fighting for. | ||
| And I feel that way. | ||
| You know, like I was walking around near my hotel earlier today and the houses in this neighborhood nearby are not big houses. | ||
| They're just modest homes. | ||
| Everybody had an American flag out front. | ||
| I guess because they're getting ready for the 4th of July. | ||
| Everything was quiet and peaceful, and people have nice cars, you know, like nice pickup trucks and stuff. | ||
| America's worth fighting for. | ||
| You know, like we're a peaceful, smart, chill people. | ||
| We don't need to continue to go down this road of being afraid of everything and everything being kept in the dark from us. | ||
| Like we're little children and we can't handle it. | ||
| It's really patronizing and it's not our system. | ||
| Do you think that the time of the country is limited? | ||
| The time of the idea of the country and the embracing the idea of a global civilization? | ||
| I think we're just getting started. | ||
| We're just getting started. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I mean, you look at Rome. | ||
| It's not as if things stopped when they became imperial. | ||
| That's really when the fun began, you know? | ||
| I mean, we have a lot of shit ahead of us, and it's not all going to be bad stuff. | ||
| It isn't all going to be bad stuff. | ||
| And I'm wondering how much of that can be impressed upon the people that are in power. | ||
| So it doesn't have to be bad. | ||
| Like, you can actually run this in a good way, you fucks. | ||
| Like, someone can come along who has enough ideas of how this can be structured where it can be that people still get to make money and people still get to have order and people still get to have laws. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And there's still respect and there's still... | ||
| I was in Uruguay last year, fairly small South American country, I think right next to Brazil. | ||
| And I was there and their president is known as like one of the most, how do you put this, like one of the least selfish presidents in the world and still like the still the figurehead for a fairly successful country. | ||
| So he gives away like 80% of his salary to charity and his hobbies, instead of being obsessed with getting invited to stuff like Bilderberg, he gardens with his long-term girlfriend. | ||
| They plant flowers. | ||
| He drives an old VW Beetle, like one of the ones from the 70s. | ||
| He's hippie. | ||
| Yeah, he drives an old beetle. | ||
| And what's funny is his past is really like messed up. | ||
| He spent, I think, a decade in a well imprisoned as a political prisoner. | ||
| And he had been shot by police at some point and all this stuff. | ||
| But instead of becoming radical and becoming this like anti, you know, anti-wealth kind of South American radical who wants to seek to get revenge, he just became a total moderate. | ||
| And, you know, he gardens and he's the president. | ||
| People love him. | ||
| And he looks like what a South American dictator would look like. | ||
| You know, he's like this old, jovial white guy. | ||
| But instead of going down that path of just acquiring more and more power, he's like, fuck it. | ||
| Like we're going to have a free country. | ||
| And I think that's something that more and more world leaders could probably aspire to. | ||
| How much of, yeah, I mean, how much of the direction of civilization is really dictated by charismatic individuals? | ||
| I mean, it's so often that someone in a right way or a wrong way will lead people astray. | ||
| Look at Hitler's speeches. | ||
| I watch this thing where they're look at Kennedy's speeches. | ||
| I watch this thing where they subtitle his speeches so you could see what he's actually saying. | ||
| Because I've always wondered, how could people go along with this raving lunatic and be like, yeah, yeah, we should put the Jews and the homosexuals in the ovens? | ||
| You know, this sounds good. | ||
| How could they go along with this? | ||
| The Germans are smart. | ||
| And if you look at the subtitles of his speeches, he's saying stuff like, you know, when one German needs help, another German should reach out because that's what we're about as a country is you help out another German who's down on his, you know, down on his luck and we move each other forward together. | ||
| All this shit that like, you can see why people would go along with it. | ||
| It wasn't craziness. | ||
| And then behind the scenes, he's doing all this really terrible shit. | ||
| And so he spoke to the common folk. | ||
| Yeah, I guess where I'm going with this is you're 100% right that there are a handful of charismatic people that have a huge amount of influence on what direction we take. | ||
| I like to think that in this day and age that that's changing. | ||
| I really do. | ||
| I like to think that in this day and age, because we live in this new paradigm, and you and I have accepted it, because we have no vested interest in keeping the past, you know, we didn't have any control. | ||
| Neither you nor I had any control over the way the world worked a decade, two decades ago. | ||
| So we have no vested interest in keeping the thing the way it is now. | ||
| We recognize that the world is changing. | ||
| We recognize that society is changing. | ||
| People are fucking smarter, man. | ||
| They're smarter. | ||
| They're smarter and they're more aware and they're more tuned in and it's not as easy to fucking trick them. | ||
| You see it with entertainment. | ||
| You see it with talk shows. | ||
| You see it with the criticism of newspaper articles and books and blogs. | ||
| People are more tuned in now than they ever have been before. | ||
| Well, it's funny, financial newsletters used to be really big in the 90s where people would subscribe to some experts' stock picks and he would say, you know, I'm up 18% for the past year, you know, whatever. | ||
| And people would subscribe thinking, oh, if I just listen to what this guy says, I'll make 1,800% per year. | ||
| And I almost went to work for a company earlier this year that reached out to me. | ||
| And what they do is they've found a way to actually audit these people's results. | ||
| So they go, oh, okay, let's actually see what you've been buying and selling. | ||
| You didn't make 1,800% this year. | ||
| You made like 10%. | ||
| And so they publish all the results and people pay for access to that information. | ||
| And so what you're seeing is this one area that used to be really scammy is now moving closer and closer to total transparency where, you know, if you're the real thing and you're actually picking the right stocks, then you're going to gain more followers than you ever would have before because people see that you're the real thing. | ||
| And if you're bullshit, nobody's going to go down that road. | ||
| And I feel like it'd be great if we get that going for other areas other than stock newsletters. | ||
| Like, let's get it going for government agencies. | ||
| Let's get it going for anything. | ||
| Like, just show the people the actual numbers. | ||
| Let them decide for themselves if this is something that we want to do. | ||
| And if not, it'll go away. | ||
| It seems like that's what a lot of people are terrified of. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| A lot of people are terrified about having to do that, having to rise to the occasion, having to recognize that we live in a completely new world and that there's a lot more competition because there's a lot more access to the game. | ||
| Well, people say stuff. | ||
| They're like, well, should we have that much competition? | ||
| And you really, you do want that because so like if you have that's a funny thing to say. | ||
| Should there be that much competition? | ||
| Because people say things like the stock market is good like it is now being closed on weekends and stuff. | ||
| But ultimately you want total information exchange at all times. | ||
| You'd want 24-7 like commodities markets, right? | ||
| And so people are like arguing for this old shit and you're like, well, why are you arguing for that when it's less transparent? | ||
| You just want, ideally, you want people to be able to do anything at any time, as long as it doesn't harm other people. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| And that includes online gambling, online porn, online anything. | ||
| The idea of regulating human behavior is completely ridiculous if that human behavior doesn't hurt other people. | ||
| And if it's not, then it's about controlling resources. | ||
| And if it's about controlling resources, it becomes about why should one person be able to tell you what you can and can't do if you're not somehow or another imprisoning or doing something fucked up to other people. | ||
| If you're not, then there shouldn't be that law. | ||
| There's too many. | ||
| There's too much business in enforcing it. | ||
| There's too much business in manipulating words in order to control humans. | ||
| And that's what I think everybody's freaking out about when it comes to the NDAA or the Patriot Act. | ||
| Well, this Section 215 of the Patriot Act, they have a secret interpretation of it, and that's how the NSA is doing all this data collection, or at least that's the foundation for some of it, I believe. | ||
| And how ludicrous is that? | ||
| The Patriot Act is scary enough, what it actually says. | ||
| But then you have the government saying, oh, no, no, we have this secret interpretation in a lockbox that you can't actually look at, but our secret interpretation allows us to do A, B, and C. It'd be like if you signed a contract and then the guy doesn't pay you what had been agreed upon, and you take him to court and you sue him, and he's like, no, you can't sue me because I actually have a secret interpretation of your compensation on this contract. | ||
| You'd be like, that's totally fucking insane. | ||
| There's no basis in law for that. | ||
| But the government is doing this stuff. | ||
| And up until the past few weeks, people have not really been calling them out on it. | ||
| I mean, of course, some people have, but it hasn't gone mainstream in the way that it is now. | ||
| You know, when you're talking about everything accelerating, you know, they're experiencing that now, too. | ||
| They're experiencing that slowly, but surely. | ||
| It's like one, two, three, four, this is the same thing. | ||
| Look at all these men, man. | ||
| Look at all these whistleblowers. | ||
| He's like, what, the third or fourth guy from the NSA alone? | ||
| How bad must things be there that you're willing to give up everything to come out and talk to the press? | ||
| Yeah, well, there's some people that feel like they're compelled. | ||
| There's real heroes in this world. | ||
| You know, like what Pat Tillman did. | ||
| He was the football player, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He was a professional football league player, superstar, and decided he wanted to go and defend his country. | ||
| So he risked it all and went over to Afghanistan or Iraq, wherever he was killed. | ||
| I think it was Afghanistan. | ||
| And found that it was a big fucking shitpile once he got there. | ||
| It was completely disorganized. | ||
| It was a mess. | ||
| He was very vocal about it. | ||
| Some people, though, that they really will do what this guy's done. | ||
| Step up and say, hey, you know, this needs to be discussed and talked about. | ||
| And everyone's chasing after him. | ||
| And everyone is talking about this cover of USA Today. | ||
| X percent think he should be prosecuted and blah, blah, blah. | ||
| But the bottom line is all of a sudden that dialogue is open. | ||
| All of a sudden, that conversation is being had. | ||
| Who are these people that are allowed to read David Seaman's email? | ||
| And why can they? | ||
| And aren't they just people? | ||
| And weird things happen when you call yourself the NSA or the CIA or the FBI. | ||
| When you become part of a group, you can do some weird shit. | ||
| Even when you call yourself district manager, weird stuff happens. | ||
| You go from being an objective observer of what happened to, well, I can't return more than a certain percentage of shirts because it'll make my numbers look bad. | ||
| So you have somebody who's no longer acting out of total objective reality and they have a vested interest in some kind of outcome and you multiply that times a thousand and you get the National Security Agency. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But to go back to being positive, I think we're headed for a Star Trek future. | ||
| Like if you watch Star Trek Next Generation, not the new major motion pictures that are just action flicks, but that whole ideal view that hundreds of years from now, people have so much abundance in terms of energy and information that money is no longer the focus. | ||
| Because if you want to get an education, it'll be given to you because it won't cost us that much to do it. | ||
| So if you want to get a lot of money. | ||
| You're going to get educated online. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| That's what I mean. | ||
| You'll get an education, all the education you need. | ||
| If you need healthcare, it's going to be so commoditized, so easy to provide a level of care. | ||
| You'll get that. | ||
| If you want to fly across the country, it's going to cost you almost nothing because one of the big costs right now to fly is the jet fuel. | ||
| It's not the lease of the airplane. | ||
| It's not the shitty wages they pay to the pilot and the stewardesses. | ||
| It's actually the jet fuel that's burning. | ||
| What about when we move away from that kind of era and get something better to power all of our vehicles? | ||
| Then it changes everything. | ||
| Because then FedEx stuffing across the country doesn't cost much anymore either. | ||
| Before you know it, you have a society where you just don't have to pay for all that much stuff. | ||
| How about this? | ||
| How about when it's down to everybody acquiring raw materials because you have a 3D printer in your house? | ||
| That's going to be free. | ||
| And no one ever has to buy anything. | ||
| That's going to be free. | ||
| That's coming. | ||
| That's coming. | ||
| You're going to be able to download the instructions and the directions for making a laptop. | ||
| Make your own fleshlight. | ||
| Making anything. | ||
| That's happening too, for sure. | ||
| I think it's basically going to be anything. | ||
| I think it's going to start off just like printers were, where, you know, they were only black and white and you have to have a big office to have a laser print. | ||
| It took forever to print it out. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, that's completely changed. | ||
| It's changed radically. | ||
| The ability to download an image. | ||
| Remember it used to be like click, click, click, click, click, click. | ||
| It was like really slow to get like a one megabyte JPEG. | ||
| Now it's instantaneous. | ||
| There's going to come a time when everyone can just get what they want online. | ||
| You're going to be able to download the instructions and people are going to probably have some sort of a PayPal system or some sort of a donation system where they'll, hey, I invented this. | ||
| And they'll upload it and people donate a bunch of money to them to be able to use it. | ||
| And they'll find merit in it. | ||
| If they find merit in it and they have the resources, they'll upload the money to this person and that person will be able to benefit from it. | ||
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| If you live in America, even today, if you have a truly great idea and you put it out on whatever these sites are, Indiegogo and Kickstarter, you can get the money you need to make your dream a reality. | ||
| And that's extraordinary. | ||
| It didn't exist until very recently. | ||
| And it'll be a reasonable... | ||
| And now you can just put it on Kickstarter. | ||
| Nobody cares about anything other than is the idea worthy. | ||
| Yeah, no doubt. | ||
| Alex Gray's Kickstarter, he came on the podcast to talk about it and within I don't know, a couple days, his Kickstarter had gone over $200,000. | ||
| That's a beautiful thing. | ||
| It's a weird thing that you can do that today. | ||
| It's $210,000 now. | ||
| And that was like within days we watched that change. | ||
| It's like all people have to do is be alerted to a good idea and then they look at the Kickstarter. | ||
| Oh, this is a very reasonable offer. | ||
| He has all these really cool things that he's going to give you. | ||
| He'll draw an image of you for X amount of money. | ||
| He'll give you free tickets to the opening of Entheon for this amount of money. | ||
| And in doing something like that and creating something like that, he essentially like organized and energized this base of supporters. | ||
| And then, you know, if you have a million fans and the X amount of them give you money, boom, you're up and running. | ||
| You don't need to sell your dick to Nestle. | ||
| You don't need to stick your ass up in the air for Coca-Cola. | ||
| You do whatever you want. | ||
| You can do whatever you want. | ||
| Yeah, it takes away the power from the guy I got dinner with last night is a TV producer, and he's friends with the guy who produces Philip DeFranco's show. | ||
| What's that? | ||
| That's one of the bigger YouTube shows. | ||
| And he was talking about how now these networks just don't matter. | ||
| Because all they have is we've been around for 60 years. | ||
| And somebody who started two years ago is like, well, that doesn't fucking matter anymore. | ||
| If we're producing better content, then we're actually competitive. | ||
| And you're seeing now that location doesn't matter either. | ||
| Look at what's his name, Sy or Gangnam style Psy? | ||
| Even though he's not in a hotbed of U.S. music, he instantly took off over here because of this technology we have. | ||
| No, because we like watching fat Asian guys dance around and looking weird with hot Asian girls that we hope they don't get to fuck before we do. | ||
| I guess what I'm saying is if the idea is good, it propagates now in a way that was just impossible even 10 years ago. | ||
| Oh, for sure. | ||
| You know, I mean, look, this podcast has never been advertised anywhere. | ||
| We haven't done anything. | ||
| All we've done is just keep doing it. | ||
| And in doing that, it's built a completely organic word of mouth. | ||
| I mean, I've talked to people about it if they asked me about it in interviews, but I've done nothing to try to promote this podcast as far as like commercially. | ||
| And it sort of just caught on on its own. | ||
| And I think, honestly, it'll be a slower road for someone who's not famous, but it's possible for like almost anybody today. | ||
| And I know you have a podcast now, and by you putting your ideas out there on the internet, you gained a lot of support when you were going to run for Congress, and then that support bled over to things that I came in contact with, and then you and I came in contact with each other, and you came on this show, and then you started going on a bunch of other shows, and then it all sort of webs out from each other. | ||
| You didn't have any important family that you came from. | ||
| You didn't have any, you know, privileged influence where you had a brother who was the president of the United States. | ||
| There was nothing like that. | ||
| You were just a guy. | ||
| It's funny because the things that I thought used to be my weaknesses in this new environment are actually your biggest strengths. | ||
| I was kind of deeply insecure back when I was a journalist. | ||
| Now I'm a journalist again. | ||
| Because the congressional thing, I think that was a little delusional on my part to think that you can jump in there and hope to have any kind of chance to be taken seriously. | ||
| But now that I'm back to doing journalism, the things that I used to be really insecure about, that I wasn't working for a TV network and didn't have New York Times or NBC News after my name, those are actually your biggest strengths today because people go, oh, if this guy knows about something, he's not going to hold back. | ||
| He's going to do the research and put it out there. | ||
| And the other thing that I'm not afraid to do that I think more journalists should do is put things into perspective for people. | ||
| People are busy. | ||
| I sit there reading through this boring national security stuff and then I'm able to pick out what's important and tell people this matters. | ||
| And then sometimes people will tweet me something that seems like a really big deal and I'll debunk it. | ||
| I'm like, actually, it's problematic, but it probably doesn't matter because of A, B, and C. And people need that because there's no sense of perspective anymore. | ||
| You go to the homepage of Yahoo, and it's something about Obama, some huge meeting with Merkel in Germany. | ||
| And then the next line right next to it is Kim Kardashian's baby. | ||
| And then the line below that is the Duggar family or the Duggars, whatever they're called that have 19 kids, the reality TV whores. | ||
| It's them. | ||
| And so it fucks with your mind because you're like, are these things all equally important? | ||
| This is what's most important in the world today are these three stories. | ||
| And you need people who are not compromised by the system, who have no paycheck coming directly from a news organization to just say, yeah, this is really important. | ||
| People should pay attention to it. | ||
| Or this is bullshit. | ||
| It's just being hyped and it's not that big a deal. | ||
| Well, essentially, there's always going to be a need for junk food. | ||
| And there's going to be a need for intellectual junk food as well. | ||
| And much like actual food, if you offer people intellectual junk food, there's a certain group of us, and I lump me in there as well, that will self-sabotage. | ||
| And they will eat junk food. | ||
| And they will have a cheeseburger. | ||
| And they should really have a salad. | ||
| And they will watch intellectual junk food when maybe it would do them better to sit down and read a book or to watch Nova or to see a documentary. | ||
| There's sometimes you don't want to watch documentary. | ||
| You want to watch a bunch of assholes bid on storage space. | ||
| It doesn't make any fucking sense. | ||
| And that's good, too. | ||
| There's no reason you have to do serious stuff all day long. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| I certainly don't subscribe to that. | ||
| But you're a balanced person. | ||
| And if you're an imbalanced person, much like people who just eat cheeseburgers, you're going to have intellectual junk food 24-7. | ||
| You're going to be comforted. | ||
| Your mind will be occupied by nonsense. | ||
| And that's what we really need. | ||
| Our minds are designed to be occupied by the pursuit of food, sustenance, and sexuality. | ||
| That's what we're after. | ||
| We're trying to find a place to rest, someone to fuck, something to eat. | ||
| Keep going. | ||
| Ready? | ||
| Go. | ||
| Get up in the morning. | ||
| Are you awake? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Fill the needs. | ||
| And now those needs are filled. | ||
| Instead, you're plugged into a fucking video game. | ||
| You're playing football with some digital characters and you're eating pizza that some guy actually walked up to your fucking door. | ||
| And all you have to do is give him some paper that means almost nothing. | ||
| And he gives you pizza and you stuff it in your fat face and go right back to your stupid game. | ||
| And it's so easy to do that. | ||
| It's so easy to do that. | ||
| As long as you can do enough to justify Enough ones and zeros coming into your whatever your bank account is these days. | ||
| It's not the vault. | ||
| The vaults are filled with paper. | ||
| You know, what's in that fucking vault? | ||
| It's vaults filled with paper that's promising something. | ||
| Depromises inside. | ||
| It's very strange. | ||
| There's actually a great documentary. | ||
| I think National Geographic did it on Fort Knox and all the controversies surrounding that. | ||
| What's important? | ||
| Is there no gold? | ||
| Well, one of the theories is that the gold was replaced over time with like tungsten bars or something because most people never have access to it anyway. | ||
| And governments – Governments swap their gold all the time. | ||
| So they're basically saying, since there's not much transparency, we don't know what's actually there. | ||
| And it could have been sold off 20 years ago to some European government. | ||
| And what we have here is just a bunch of blanks. | ||
| That sounds like a really good movie. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like with Eddie Murphy and maybe Ben Stiller. | ||
| They break into Fort Knox and they find out there's nothing there. | ||
| Well, I think what's a more fascinating story is... | ||
| No, that's Bankheist, the Tower Heist. | ||
| That's what Die Hard's almost. | ||
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I liked that movie. | |
| Oh, really? | ||
| Wasn't Precious in Tower Heist? | ||
| I didn't see. | ||
| Oh, yes, she was. | ||
| Yeah, the woman from Precious. | ||
| I think the more fascinating story is let's take the government at face value and there's actually hundreds of billions of dollars of gold in this tiny little fort. | ||
| That's fucking incredible. | ||
| That's like something out of ancient times that we have that, you know? | ||
| Yeah, that's like a Mongol whore. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| That's pretty preposterous. | ||
| The whole society that we live in is pretty preposterous. | ||
| But I think I really do ultimately have faith in the future. | ||
| And I didn't when I was younger. | ||
| I'm more optimistic now than ever before because I think that ultimately, although there will be some peaks and valleys and some happy and sad and some angry and some happy, the convergence, the convergence of information and the convergence of ideas is inevitable. | ||
| And I think it will all balance out because of that. | ||
| I think we're going to be forced, because of this new reality, this new digital reality, we're going to be forced into a new level of communication, a new level of understanding, and a new level of, you know, of like community. | ||
| That's what I think. | ||
| What the fuck do I know? | ||
| We could all be like on the way to enlightenment, all of us doing mushrooms, holding hands, chanting Om, and then we get hit by a meteor. | ||
| Boom. | ||
| That could start. | ||
| Start from scratch. | ||
| That could happen. | ||
| It's interesting that people don't, even today, they don't act purely out of the need for more paper, for more money. | ||
| Like you look at Reddit and how people research stuff non-stop and good stuff rises to the top of the page. | ||
| They're just doing that for these internet points or karma. | ||
| They're just doing it basically so that other people will recognize that they're doing good work. | ||
| There's a game in that, though. | ||
| And there's also a benefit in that. | ||
| There's a social benefit in that where you feel good, where you make something that people enjoy. | ||
| And that's what I'm saying is already we're aspiring to better stuff than just acquiring money. | ||
| Yeah, that's money. | ||
| That is currency. | ||
| It's an online currency. | ||
| That's what people love about posting on message boards. | ||
| They love getting the approval of the people around them. | ||
| That's why they get so mad when they get banned. | ||
| Oh, you've taken me out of my hot spot, my juicy spot. | ||
| I've gotten so much love there. | ||
| I've gotten so much points. | ||
| You've cut my cash flow. | ||
| No. | ||
| It's a ridiculous idea. | ||
| Well, some people do. | ||
| I love those mountain men shows. | ||
| My favorite shows are like Alaska, The Last Frontier, and Mountain Men. | ||
| I like the Bearing Straight Gold one. | ||
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| That one's awesome. | ||
| Amish people are going to rule the world in 30 years. | ||
| No, because you know what, man? | ||
| They're boring. | ||
| They're dressing up like assholes and fucking driving with rigging. | ||
| They got some wooden wheels. | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| Well, those are the people that do that rumpelsta. | ||
| That thing that they do. | ||
| What is it called? | ||
| Rumple stealth. | ||
| Rumple shot. | ||
| They have a thing they do when they become an adult and they're allowed to leave the church and go balls out. | ||
| And they get crazy and they party and they fuck. | ||
| And they're allowed to do it for like a year or two or whatever. | ||
| And then they're supposed to make their decision whether or not they want to come back to the church. | ||
| Are there stats on what percentage say, actually, this is better? | ||
| I'm going to stay as a. | ||
| No, there's not. | ||
| You know why? | ||
| Because the stats are skewed by the fact that 100% of all Amish people are retarded. | ||
| So those stats fuck up those other stats. | ||
| Do I mean that Amish people? | ||
| No. | ||
| But guess what? | ||
| If you listen to this podcast, you're not really fucking Amish, all right? | ||
| So there. | ||
| Because this podcast is illegal in the Amish community. | ||
| You're not allowed to have a podcast. | ||
| What's the movie Inception about? | ||
| I don't know what it's about, but here's the problem. | ||
| Wait, wait, wait, no, hold on. | ||
| I mean, what's the movie Inception about? | ||
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Inception is about dreaming about, dreaming about, dreaming about, dreaming about something or other. | |
| I fell asleep. | ||
| That's Siri? | ||
| How dare you, David Seaman, sneak out to take a leak while Brian gets silly. | ||
| I think we can wrap this up with a little less doom and gloom, Brian. | ||
| You know, I mean, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, we're run by a bunch of cunts. | ||
| But you know what? | ||
| They're cunts, and they know they're cunts, and they wish they weren't cunts. | ||
| So I call out to all ye cunts, get your shit together. | ||
| Let's cheer this up a little. | ||
| All you bishes, have a couple of whiskeys, hug it out, go run around the block, get a yoga class in every now and again. | ||
| Open up your chakras, okay? | ||
| Open up your heart. | ||
| Realize you don't have to be a fucking asshole. | ||
| This is not going to last. | ||
| And you're caught up in a big trap. | ||
| And that big trap is you're trying to collect all the gold. | ||
| And it doesn't matter, buddy. | ||
| It doesn't matter. | ||
| You could have half the gold and twice the friends. | ||
| You'd be three times as happy. | ||
| Boom. | ||
| That's Joe Brogan Experience Mathematics for you. | ||
| At least we found out the real true ending of the Sopranos today. | ||
| Man, that's what I'm saying. | ||
| Doesn't that suck? | ||
| For folks who don't know, James Gandalfini died today. | ||
| I was in New York two months ago with my whole family. | ||
| We were eating in a restaurant, and James Gandalfini walked right by. | ||
| And I was like, holy shit. | ||
| You know what makes me sad about James Gandalfini dying? | ||
| It's the same thing that made me happy about you when you came in today and told me you were stopped from smoking. | ||
| That you haven't been smoking. | ||
| It's Joey Diaz. | ||
| I see Joey Diaz and I see James Gandalfini and I say, okay, that's going to happen to Joey. | ||
| And I see you and I think you're not going to live forever if you live the way you live and smoking cigarettes. | ||
| The reason why I was quitting smoking Is because I tried to hike the other day and I was like, holy shit, my cardio is fucked up. | ||
| So I'm thinking about what do you think I should do? | ||
| I'm either thinking about doing this. | ||
| This girl that was on Fear Factor with you, she teaches boxing. | ||
| She's an MMA boxing trainer. | ||
| And she wants me to train with her. | ||
| Harry, I'll tell you in a second. | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| But she wants me to train with her. | ||
| Do you think boxing training would be fun? | ||
| Yeah, it's good. | ||
| It's great. | ||
| It's really hard. | ||
| It works your cardio well. | ||
| Louis C.K. does a lot of that. | ||
| It's great. | ||
| You don't have to actually box somebody. | ||
| You just hit the bag and hit pads. | ||
| And the most important thing is it's actually fun to do. | ||
| It's not like, you know, it's not... | ||
| It's not competitive at all, so you're just there. | ||
| Carrie Williams. | ||
| Carrie Williams. | ||
| Show me a picture of her? | ||
| You should do yoga also. | ||
| I've gotten really into that. | ||
| Yoga is fantastic. | ||
| And yoga, Brian, you will meet way more hot chicks. | ||
| That girl? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You'd know her. | ||
| She was on. | ||
| Okay, I wouldn't know her like that. | ||
| All naked and oiled up and shit. | ||
| You and her together. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| Ben, I barely remember her. | ||
| The problem. | ||
| I was so much prettier then. | ||
| I've really gotten weird looking. | ||
| Starting to fade. | ||
| You don't look Italian anymore. | ||
| You look more Buddhist. | ||
| I'm fat, man. | ||
| My fucking face is fat. | ||
| People are like, your face is fatter. | ||
| I'm like, yeah, I know. | ||
| Everything's fatter. | ||
| It's harder to keep weight off when I'm not doing jiu-jitsu, but my back is better than it's ever been before. | ||
| For the folks who asked me about what I talked about, what I've been doing is something called prolozone therapy. | ||
| It's prolotherapy with ozone for my disc issue and a lot of stretching and spinal decompression. | ||
| I can't tell you how much better I feel than just a few months ago. | ||
| So if you got any back issues, don't be sleeping on that shit. | ||
| So you're going to do boxing with her? | ||
| Well, I don't know. | ||
| She offered to train me and stuff like that, but I don't know. | ||
| She probably wants some publicity. | ||
| We'll give her some. | ||
| She was on Fear Factor. | ||
| I definitely don't hate her. | ||
| I saw too many goddamn people. | ||
| We did, I don't know how many fucking episodes of Fear Factor. | ||
| I think it was 148 over six years. | ||
| And then each person has at least, each episode has at least six people. | ||
| So unfortunately, there's no way I can remember 600 people. | ||
| That's that Dunbar's number. | ||
| You only get 150 that you can store inside your brain. | ||
| Isn't that wild to think about? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I wonder how that rotates out. | ||
| Dunbar's number? | ||
| Yeah, I wonder if when you meet somebody new, somebody else is popping out of your brain. | ||
| That's what it is. | ||
| Yeah, your memory just gets deleted. | ||
| Whereas people that live in small towns, like you ever talk to somebody that grew up in the same town as you that didn't leave and they know all the same people and they remember everything that happened in high school. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And they start telling you some shit that you did and you're like, I did that? | ||
| And they remember things you don't. | ||
| Remember, you used to date Debbie Wilson? | ||
| You're like, fuck, I forgot about Debbie Wilson. | ||
| How the fuck do you remember Debbie Wilson? | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because they don't have as much information hitting them on a regular basis as you do, David Seaman, former congressional candidate, bad motherfucker on the internet. | ||
| Your podcast is what, sir? | ||
| It is the David Seaman hour. | ||
| Available on iTunes? | ||
| Yeah, iTunes and Stitcher. | ||
| And if people want to see a positive side of me, like two interviews ago, I interviewed Tara Stiles, who is Deepak Chopra's yoga instructor. | ||
| So that's like interviewing Mark Zuckerberg's social media expert. | ||
| It's fucking dope. | ||
| That's fun. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And what did Tara have to say? | ||
| She gave me some hangover cure tips and like being tired tips, different poses you can try. | ||
| Really? | ||
| And yeah. | ||
| So Deepak has like a yoga instructor that he takes him everywhere he goes? | ||
| I don't think he takes her. | ||
| She has a studio in New York, so I don't think that she's like. | ||
| Does he live in New York? | ||
| He lives in LA or he lives somewhere out here. | ||
| So how the fuck is he getting yoga from her? | ||
| Were they Skype in it in? | ||
| Apparently, a couple years ago, she talks about it on the episode. | ||
| A couple years ago, he just came up to her and was like, do you want to be my yoga instructor? | ||
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Probably trying to get someone in that sweet, sweet thing. | |
| I think they created an iPhone app together and all that stuff. | ||
| But I'm just super into it because it's had an impact on my life. | ||
| She's not my instructor. | ||
| I just, you know, interviewed her. | ||
| Yoga's legit. | ||
| It is. | ||
| Yeah, definitely legit. | ||
| I do a lot of breathing exercises. | ||
| It calms your mind so much. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's huge for you. | ||
| There's a lot of shit that people figured out before they didn't have phones. | ||
| They have nothing else to do. | ||
| So they're like, how do we optimize this body by doing all these stretches? | ||
| And they figured it out and they wrote it down and you can learn from it. | ||
| It seems like it's nonsense. | ||
| Like, how can stretching actually make me feel better? | ||
| But it does some weird shit. | ||
| It opens up paths in your brain. | ||
| Like, I remember I was super nervous. | ||
| I've been super nervous a bunch of times in my life. | ||
| And the best things that I've ever done to calm myself down was yoga. | ||
| I was super nervous the first time I ever did the Howard Stern show, the night before I couldn't even sleep. | ||
| So I just did yoga in my hotel room. | ||
| That helped? | ||
| Yeah, I felt great. | ||
| I was high as fuck. | ||
| I did yoga for like two hours, and I just got high. | ||
| I just hit this total, complete calm zone. | ||
| It carried me over the next day. | ||
| I didn't worry about anything. | ||
| I mean, I was still a little bit nervous when I got there because he was like a radio hero for me. | ||
| But once I got in there, I was so calm. | ||
| I was so like, I felt I was me. | ||
| I was 100% me. | ||
| Where I was worried about that. | ||
| And the other time, I had a really important set that I was doing at Aspen at the Aspen Comedy Festival. | ||
| And I was nervous about it. | ||
| And I remember this dude that was there that I thought was really fucking annoying. | ||
| And when I did the yoga, like I got into this total, complete, accepting, calm, friendly place. | ||
| And I saw the dude that I think is annoying. | ||
| And normally I'd be like, oh, look at this fucking douchebag. | ||
| Like, this guy's gross. | ||
| But immediately I was like, eh, poor fella. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, it didn't bother me at all. | ||
| I just, like, I didn't mind. | ||
| I would have given him a hug if he asked for one. | ||
| Like, I didn't care. | ||
| I'd hit some frequency where I realized that it was manipulatable. | ||
| It was, you could, you could alter it. | ||
| You could alter it with discipline. | ||
| You could alter it with consciousness. | ||
| And by consciousness, I don't mean any woo-woo consciousness. | ||
| I mean by deciding yourself. | ||
| Like I would rather be happy than sad. | ||
| I would rather be friendly than distant. | ||
| I would rather be warm than cold. | ||
| So just do it. | ||
| Go through the work. | ||
| Do these poses. | ||
| It takes two to tango. | ||
| Like if somebody's being an asshole to you after you've taken a yoga class, you're much slower to react. | ||
| You realize that it's not actually a confrontation until you confront them as well. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| I ran into some crazy fuck in New York. | ||
| I was in New York and there's this guy at the park. | ||
| We were filming this shit at the park. | ||
| And I thought The guy said something. | ||
| So I said, I'm sorry, excuse me. | ||
| Like, did you say something? | ||
| I thought he said something. | ||
| I wasn't being mean at all. | ||
| He goes, he goes, I know you ain't fucking talking to me. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| And I go, I thought you said something. | ||
| And he goes, I know you ain't fucking talking to me. | ||
| And I go, well, I am talking to you. | ||
| Obviously. | ||
| But I didn't mean to disturb you. | ||
| I go, I thought you had said something. | ||
| And he goes, but you ain't fucking talking to me. | ||
| I go, I thought I was. | ||
| I go, my apologies. | ||
| He goes, all right, apology accepted. | ||
| And then it like ended. | ||
| But it was like, I didn't engage at all. | ||
| Like, instead of like, fuck you, dickhead, who the fuck are you? | ||
| You know, instead of that, instead of like, I'll smack you. | ||
| It was like, oh, okay, you know, whatever. | ||
| Like, and how many times has that happened where that guy wound up getting stabbed or beat up or sent to the hospital or beat somebody else up or, you know, distracted himself from his fucking miserable, pathetic, crazy life because, you know, he manages to get himself involved in some sort of a conflict that was exciting. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Even just taking a pause after something like that happens, like I think more about stuff now that I do yoga. | ||
| And normally I'm really quick to react. | ||
| Like I always have some kind of like quick response. | ||
| And in a situation like that, now I'll think, like, do I even have to talk about this? | ||
| Do I even have to respond to this crazy person? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Or is it better to just laugh and keep walking down the sidewalk? | ||
| Well, you know, Dave Asprey talked about that on the podcast where he was talking about road rage. | ||
| And he was talking about that. | ||
| It was crazy to think about. | ||
| Well, what he was saying was, and this is the first time I've ever had anybody explain it like this, was that when you are driving, you're going very fast. | ||
| And when you're going fast, you have to be able to make split-second decisions. | ||
| So you get locked into this very pure reptile state of mind where it's just about move, react, do this. | ||
| And when someone does something, like, fuck you, it just comes out. | ||
| And the reason why it comes out is because you're ramped up to react without thinking. | ||
| Whereas if you're walking casually, like down a nice trail in the woods and someone's coming the opposite direction, there would be no road rage. | ||
| They would be like, hey, what's up? | ||
| How you doing? | ||
| And it would be gone. | ||
| You'd move out of each other's way. | ||
| You wouldn't be locked into this reptilian frame of mind. | ||
| I never really thought about it that way. | ||
| Our brains are not designed to go 70 miles an hour. | ||
| And what trips me out is that when you go on any flight, you have a guy sitting in the front of the plane who's making whatever, like $35,000 or $45,000 a year. | ||
| And he's sitting there, and he's had to train himself to move at 500 miles an hour and keep that shit together for the duration of the flight when his nervous system is designed to deal with him going at a max of like 12 miles an hour. | ||
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| It's crazy. | ||
| And you paid almost nothing for it. | ||
| You paid like $100 for the flight. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You ever watch somebody play tennis, like at a high level? | ||
| See him darting back and forth trying to swat this fucking crazy ball to the side. | ||
| That stuff reminds me of the Matrix because they're almost anticipating where it's going to be. | ||
| You have to because they're starting to lunge before it's even gone over the net. | ||
| Yeah, you have to see some physical language. | ||
| The way their foot turns, you have to anticipate. | ||
| And then people who fake people out like in football. | ||
| My favorite thing in football is when someone fakes somebody out and then spins around and gets away from them. | ||
| You know, it's like the escape is even more fascinating than the hits because it's like that you've got to be able to anticipate which way someone's moving. | ||
| And that's fast for people, but that ain't shit compared to cars. | ||
| When you're in a fucking car and you're flying down the highway, like you're on reptile 10. | ||
| You're in this weird frequency. | ||
| And that's why people wind up, fuck you, because they're all tense and freaked out. | ||
| You're not supposed to go that fast. | ||
| That's also why we have an issue with news. | ||
| Because you're not supposed to get all the news. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| You're supposed to get the shit that applies to your life. | ||
| You're not supposed to get everything that's happening with 7 billion people. | ||
| And it's supposed to be interactive, not just you sit in front of a screen and they tell you all this stuff and you just take it at face value versus a couple thousand years ago you're in front of a fire, you know, the campfire, and the guy who came back from the neighboring tribe tells you what's going on. | ||
| And then a discussion ensues where you kind of flesh out how credible is what this guy is saying? | ||
| How credible is this? | ||
| What does it mean for us? | ||
| And now we're seeing that re-emerge. | ||
| You know, social media, it's a conversation. | ||
| Stuff like this is a conversation. | ||
| And so it's no longer you're looking at a screen and you have to take everything Aaron Burnett is saying at face value. | ||
| You don't, you know, or any of these people, Piers Morgan, who are just shouting at the screen. | ||
| And in the year 2013, they think that still works. | ||
| And you can tell it's a broken model. | ||
| And those conversations pale in comparison to the conversations that you will see with those people on the internet. | ||
| Anybody that's a guest on Piers Morgan, if they came on your show, you would have an hour plus, two hours, whatever the fuck you would have with them. | ||
| You would have way more of an understanding of who they really are coming off of your show than you ever would in these seven-minute chunks of conversation sandwiched in between commercial breaks and buttons. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Where they're like, we'll wrap this up right quick. | ||
| You know, like, the first time I did your show, I was pretty squirrely because I'm used to doing, you know, like four or five minute TV or radio segments where they're like, all right, we're having you on to talk about NDAA. | ||
| Just lay it out for us. | ||
| And it's like, it's impossible to lay out the whole history and how it got to that point in four minutes. | ||
| So you're just trying to boil down a couple of good points, get it out there in a way that people will think about and hopefully Google the fucking shit on their own. | ||
| But you can't possibly dive in. | ||
| And then you get on a show like this, you're like, oh, I actually can just be myself. | ||
| You can be yourself and be yourself for a long period of time. | ||
| And I think that's what people are looking for today. | ||
| They're looking for reality. | ||
| They have access to reality in 99% of the places they look. | ||
| Where they don't get it is politics, the view of the world, laws, media. | ||
| Yeah, but everywhere else, you're looking at people really cutting people's heads off. | ||
| Look, there's the video. | ||
| Mexican drug lord cuts his girlfriend's head off. | ||
| Yep, there it is. | ||
| Guy got eaten by a hippo. | ||
| Yep, I'm watching him get eaten. | ||
| Yep, he's dead. | ||
| Oh, look at that. | ||
| That guy can't run as fast as a tiger. | ||
| What a shocker. | ||
| You know, I mean, you're getting that reality over and over and over and over again. | ||
| And it's harder and harder to take the spoon-fed bullshit when the internet provides you with reality in 99% of the instances. | ||
| Well, in the 70s, journalism was about you'd want to appear to be unbiased because that was equated with professionalism for some reason. | ||
| So we ended up being in Vietnam for far longer than we could have been because all these guys, they didn't want to insult their audience by giving them their opinions. | ||
| Like, oh, it's actually this is fucked up for us to have Americans coming back in body bags for some war that we don't need to be involved in. | ||
| They would never say that on the evening news. | ||
| Instead, they would just be very clinical about it. | ||
| But sometimes you need people who've done the research and then come out and say, this is why this is a big deal. | ||
| This is why you should be upset. | ||
| Or this is why you shouldn't care. | ||
| But they didn't do that at all at the height of network journalism. | ||
| And then until very recently, you've seen that creep into everything. | ||
| People who even work at really big blogs, you see they lose some of their voice because they're like, it's not my position to tell you what to think. | ||
| But really it is. | ||
| It's my position to tell you what I think and why I think that. | ||
| And then you can come along for the ride or you can go another direction. | ||
| But to not do that, I think is really dishonest. | ||
| And you read the New York Times, which is on your tablet, on your iPad, so it's competing with all this new stuff that's better. | ||
| And they have this weird shine of objectivity. | ||
| So they can't just tell you what they actually think. | ||
| It has to be, Mr. Obama is paying up to $100 million for his vacation. | ||
| And there's no notation like, we disagree with this. | ||
| It's just, here's what's happening. | ||
| As a figurehead, it doesn't work anymore. | ||
| As a label, as a box that you put all your stuff into. | ||
| It doesn't work anymore. | ||
| It's almost like that expression, let the market decide. | ||
| You really want to let the market decide whose opinions are valid. | ||
| And there's problems with that, too. | ||
| There's definitely like people will find people that reinforce their opinions. | ||
| Look at Glenn Beck. | ||
| That's one of the best examples of that. | ||
| Perfect example. | ||
| People always send me his shit because he does this marketing tactic where he'll say, the NSA leak, we've got our own whistleblower. | ||
| It's coming out in 24 hours. | ||
| It's like, if you have this, why don't you just come out with it right now? | ||
| You've got to make people visit your website again and again over the next 24 hours. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| And then he actually comes out with it. | ||
| And it's never, I don't watch enough Glenn Beck to know if this is true, so I don't want to disparage the guy. | ||
| But as far as I've seen, his big blowout things that are supposed to change the world and everything will be different never end up delivering even a tenth on that promise. | ||
| Fuck Glenn Beck and all praise David Seaman, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| You're a bad motherfucker, dude. | ||
| I really enjoy talking to you. | ||
| We've got to do this more often, my friends. | ||
| Powerful Joe Rogan. | ||
| Powerful David Seaman. | ||
| We're making shit happen out there. | ||
| One internet viewer at a time. | ||
| Thank you, everybody, for... | ||
| When do you unveil that? | ||
| It's going to be pre-sale, hopefully later this week, if not next week. | ||
| There's the newest, latest, greatest Death Squad t-shirt, the best ever, for sure, by far. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| As soon as I saw it, I'm like, you hit it out of the park, kid. | ||
| It's badass. | ||
| The newest Death Squad version number three by Brian Redband. | ||
| And that will be out probably at the end of this week. | ||
| We'll do a podcast tomorrow with the lovely and talented Jason Silva, who I ran into at the G4 2045 conference. | ||
| We'll have a lot of crazy shit to talk about. | ||
| That dude was on fire. | ||
| He loves technology. | ||
| So he went fucking crazy when I talked to him last. | ||
| He's awesome. | ||
| So he'll be here tomorrow, tomorrow afternoon, and then maybe we'll do something this weekend, too. | ||
| I don't know what's going on. | ||
| I'm going crazy doing this TV show. | ||
| Trying to make it happen. | ||
| Thank you to the sponsors of the podcast. | ||
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| How fake did that sound? | ||
| So fake. | ||
| Oh, shit, bitches. | ||
| I can fake it when I have to. | ||
| All right. | ||
| All the love. | ||
| Thank you very much, everybody. | ||
| Thanks for all the people that came out to see me and Tommy Segura up in Winnipeg. | ||
| We had a good time, my friends, in Canada. | ||
| Canada's beautiful, man. | ||
| People are so goddamn nice up there. | ||
| All my Toronto shows sold out, so they're adding more. | ||
| Oh, Brian, right? | ||
| Good more. | ||
| Tony Hinchcliffe. | ||
| Anybody else? | ||
| Just you two? | ||
| Yep, just us. | ||
| Yeah, that place is beautiful. | ||
| Good luck trying to stay sober. | ||
| All right, you freaks. |
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