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Joe Rogan Experience #325 - James "The Colossus" Thompson
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joe rogan
Hey fuckers.
Here we go again.
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james colossus thompson
That's why we don't have it in England.
joe rogan
That's why in England do you get fucked?
james colossus thompson
We get fucked.
joe rogan
Yeah.
james colossus thompson
I don't know.
I don't know if it's because we're an island.
So we're a little bit separated.
joe rogan
So your cell phones are more expensive?
james colossus thompson
Did that make sense?
joe rogan
Yeah, it does make sense.
james colossus thompson
Oh god, okay.
joe rogan
Yeah, because someone has to set up the infrastructure, right?
james colossus thompson
Everything's more expensive.
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So what this does is it Pretty much makes your own cell phone tower out of your house.
So you always have good service.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's amazing.
Out of the internet.
brian redban
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james colossus thompson
We'd look good with your bum bag.
joe rogan
Yeah, I would have to have a bum bag, right?
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brian redban
Maybe this is Sam's partner.
joe rogan
No, I think it's like, you know, probably the book company was like, I think we should get an actor.
I mean, listen, Sam, you're a captivating speaker, but we need that extra professional touch to really push your audiobook to the top of the charts.
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I think it's more likely that, right?
brian redban
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joe rogan
What is the episode?
Is there a name of that The Gay Off episode so people can specifically search for it?
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Yes, you get one free audiobook.
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brian redban
I don't think he needs to.
james colossus thompson
Oh, Brian.
joe rogan
If you're looking to get extra swole...
No, you actually lost weight, right?
You were a little bit bigger at one point, Tom, weren't you?
james colossus thompson
I've been up and down all the time.
joe rogan
Yeah?
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Is it like a sacrifice thing?
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james colossus thompson
What's it called?
joe rogan
What's that?
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What's it called?
joe rogan
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james colossus thompson
So it's got magnesium?
42%?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's got magnesium in it?
Yeah, it's one of them.
It's one of the ingredients.
We were talking about the zinc magnesium supplement, the ZMA stuff, which is very good for you.
It can increase testosterone, but apparently what they're saying is it increases it in people who are deficient in zinc, which is most of us, apparently.
Apparently most people aren't getting enough zinc.
brian redban
I do it almost five times a week now.
joe rogan
Does it make you feel better?
brian redban
It does, right?
Yeah, it makes me sleep.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm a big fan of zinc.
I think there's something in that, and that's ZMA. That's an interesting supplement.
One of the things is also they think it helps you recover better and build your testosterone more because you're getting more sleep.
brian redban
You're getting deeper sleep.
Yeah, you go to the deepest level of sleep.
You usually don't get to that level.
joe rogan
Do you get addicted to it?
brian redban
Do you think, like, I can't be without my ZMA? I just know if I'm traveling or if I'm like, you know what, I need to go to sleep and I'm not tired, I'll just play on the internet all day, I'll just take it.
joe rogan
Yeah, because you were offering it up.
You were offering it up.
I was like, this kid's a ZMA freak.
brian redban
Dude, I approve ZMA like crazy.
unidentified
I love it.
james colossus thompson
Because it's something you really needed in your diet.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Oh, definitely.
Definitely, yeah.
james colossus thompson
So basically, it's worked.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, I think a lot of us are deficient in shit.
We just don't realize it, man.
brian redban
Magnesium.
joe rogan
Many people get cramps in their feet.
It's potassium, apparently.
That's why you get cramps.
I get cramps, you know?
brian redban
When you sleep and you wake up screaming because you accidentally got a charley horse.
joe rogan
Oh, the fuck gets a charley horse in the middle of the night?
You get that sometimes?
brian redban
Yeah, that's from dehydration.
joe rogan
That's probably, you're an unhealthy fuck.
james colossus thompson
I don't know what a charley horse is.
joe rogan
You don't know what a charley horse is?
No.
A charley horse is when something stiffens up on you.
There's two different ways.
Some people call a charley horse a punch, like a punch in the shoulder or a punch in the leg.
brian redban
In Washington, it means something completely different.
james colossus thompson
They call that in England.
joe rogan
Is that what they call a charley horse?
james colossus thompson
No, they've got a punch in the arm in England.
joe rogan
Yeah, what is that?
james colossus thompson
Punch in the arm.
joe rogan
Did you just call it punch in the arm?
james colossus thompson
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's probably a better way of doing it.
Why would the silly fucking nicknames that I have to relearn?
james colossus thompson
Charlie Hall.
brian redban
Slugbug is what it's called in the United States.
When you see a beetle.
joe rogan
Yeah, you told me about this.
I didn't know this existed.
There's a lot of people in the country, in this country, in America, Mr. Thompson, that are just looking for an excuse to hit each other.
So they come up with games where it's okay to hit your friends.
Because they're fucking assholes.
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The Joe Rogan experience.
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joe rogan
All day.
Powerful James Thompson.
Welcome aboard, sir.
Thank you very much for coming on, man.
I'm very excited to talk to you.
I know this is going to be fun because you're a character that I've enjoyed for many, many years in the world of mixed martial arts.
I remember the first fight you had with Alexander Emelianenko in Pride.
james colossus thompson
I don't remember it.
That's a problem.
I think that's where I went wrong.
joe rogan
You went bananas, man!
You took it to 100 miles an hour from the moment the bell rang, and you just redlined that bitch.
And, you know, it didn't...
I mean, it was a crazy fight.
But you'd only...
When that fight happened, you'd only been doing martial arts training for a short amount of time, right?
james colossus thompson
I'd been doing it for a year and a half.
Well, I know.
How it worked out, I was...
I didn't do anything before, apart from, before my first fight, I hadn't done anything apart from, I don't know, six months wrestling, good wrestling, and then I saw MMA, put myself in for a contest six weeks later, and I thought to myself, We're doing, it wasn't like a camp, it was a class three times a week, and I did other things, so different cardio, different this, different that.
So that's what I did.
I made it, put it all together, did my class of MMA, and then after like three, four weeks, I thought, I'm ready for a fight.
Not because I'm arrogant or...
joe rogan
You wanted to test yourself.
james colossus thompson
Well, I just thought...
I didn't realize how much there was to it.
I didn't get how deep it was.
joe rogan
So looking at it from the outside, it seemed more simple.
james colossus thompson
Well, I'm doing a little bit.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, you're a huge guy.
james colossus thompson
Yeah.
joe rogan
So your whole life you've been a huge guy, I'm sure.
So you're probably not used to being around...
I was smaller when I was smaller.
You were smaller when you were smaller, if that makes sense.
But, you know, like, so your look at the sport of MMA was probably not from a position of, like, why don't I fucking do this?
Like, I'm designed for this shit.
james colossus thompson
Well, kind of, because I always wonder, why did I never do boxing?
joe rogan
Right.
Why didn't you?
What did you do when you were young?
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
You look like you picked up a lot of heavy shit.
Did you do that?
unidentified
Video games.
james colossus thompson
Yeah, it did, didn't it?
It looked like it was like I was looking back having a flashback to being molested or something.
Like I was going to start breaking down in tears.
You know, if you don't know, what have I opened here?
joe rogan
What sports did you do?
james colossus thompson
Rugby.
I was very good at it.
Oh, rugby.
joe rogan
Rugby, in my opinion, sacrilege.
People will say sacrilege.
It's just inherently more badass than football, okay?
james colossus thompson
Well, there's no question.
joe rogan
This pad thing is ridiculous, and I know we've accepted it.
unidentified
Pads!
joe rogan
They wear the football players, the pads and the helmets and shit.
james colossus thompson
Oh, American football.
joe rogan
Yeah, American football.
james colossus thompson
Right.
joe rogan
Not soccer.
Not soccer.
We call it soccer, obviously.
But American football, the idea is ridiculous.
Pad yourself up and run at each other full clip.
Rugby, to me, is like, you've got a little leather thing on your head.
james colossus thompson
No, sometimes they have that.
joe rogan
Sometimes, to protect your ears from falling off.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
james colossus thompson
So they don't go all fucking colored.
joe rogan
It's just more badass.
It seems like a more badass sport, you know?
james colossus thompson
I think different ways.
You know what I mean?
Like, rugby is fucking tough.
joe rogan
Yeah.
james colossus thompson
I don't know if some people, some guys have, you know, professional fighters, and they're obviously doing other things, and rugby will be one of them.
And I'll tell you, oh yeah, I had a rugby match.
And I'm like, you play rugby and you fight.
Wow.
Fuck.
You get an injury so weak.
People step on you.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
james colossus thompson
They don't go, fuck.
When you go on the screen, they got their heels.
Oh, yeah.
When I first started playing, I couldn't believe it.
I was getting stamped.
And I thought, why are you fucking stamping me?
joe rogan
Yeah.
james colossus thompson
I ended up having a fight on the...
End up having a fight on the pitch.
joe rogan
It's really common to have fights in rugby, isn't it?
james colossus thompson
Oh, really common.
joe rogan
Which is so aggressive.
james colossus thompson
What the fuck is us stomping you?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's so close to a fight.
It's like three-quarters of a fight, you know?
When you get into scrubs.
It's like three-quarters of a fight going on.
It's amazing that it's not like a constant, like, MMA war.
james colossus thompson
I didn't enjoy the game, though.
I didn't enjoy it.
joe rogan
I mean, you know, I've enjoyed football games before.
It's not that I don't get the appeal of watching a great football player.
I absolutely do.
But I'm like, I would love to see those athletes play rugby.
I would love to see what would happen if everybody abandoned football.
I think it's fun to watch.
It's craziness, man.
james colossus thompson
Yeah.
Posh people do it.
joe rogan
Posh people?
james colossus thompson
Yeah, in England.
joe rogan
I love that word, by the way.
james colossus thompson
Posh.
joe rogan
Posh people.
That's such a fucking great way of describing things.
English has such a few words that...
I've really started to appreciate proper.
Oh, that's a proper diet.
That's a proper car.
Proper, that's a badass word.
james colossus thompson
Yeah, it's a badass word.
joe rogan
And posh is another one.
I like posh.
It's posh.
james colossus thompson
And sometimes, if you feel an advantage, proper posh.
joe rogan
Oh, proper posh is gangster, right?
Yeah, that's when you go over someone's house and they got a peacock.
That shit's proper posh.
Dudes have like fucking statues of themselves in the fountain and they're a merman, you know?
You ever seen those guys?
I know a couple that has a fucking mural in their house where he's a merman and she's a mermaid.
unidentified
Are you fucking serious?
joe rogan
He's a super duper billionaire.
He has statues of her He created a statue of her in a fountain.
Yeah.
He has this...
She's very pretty.
And, you know, I guess he's like super psych.
He gets to fuck her.
And he has these paintings all over the place of the two of them.
And one that's a merman and a woman and a mermaid.
It's so crazy.
james colossus thompson
There's a guy in England.
He's like a, you know, lock stock gangster bloke.
joe rogan
Right.
james colossus thompson
He bought a book.
I can't remember what it was called.
Anyway.
He has got on the side of his house.
Him.
As King Arthur on a horse with his wife.
And, you know, the spear.
Like that.
But, you know, he's not inside his house.
unidentified
He's King Arthur!
james colossus thompson
Yeah, but he's not inside his house.
It's fucking outside his house.
unidentified
No!
james colossus thompson
It's out, so everyone can see it.
He can't even fucking see it.
That's right, you can see it.
joe rogan
So he's just sticking his dick out of his front yard.
What a crazy asshole.
james colossus thompson
It's not actually his dick.
joe rogan
Oh my God.
james colossus thompson
Did you think I meant his dick?
joe rogan
No, but I'm saying, you know, like that's what he's doing by having that representation of him as a famous figure.
james colossus thompson
I didn't look at that fucking deep into it, Joel.
joe rogan
It's a dick thing.
james colossus thompson
When it all boils down to being a dick thing.
joe rogan
Yeah, that is for sure, you know?
Crazy asshole.
People are so nuts, man.
james colossus thompson
Yeah, he is, but he's well-known.
He's kind of like a celebrity guy.
joe rogan
Do you remember when Lee Murray had that mural made of him triangling Jorge Rivera?
james colossus thompson
Yeah, that's what I was going to mention, because I know Lee and I. I love that guy.
joe rogan
He's a character.
I know he's a criminal and all that jazz, and he's done a lot of bad things.
I understand.
I mean, I wouldn't want to be on his bad side, that's for sure.
He's so entertaining, man.
So crazy.
james colossus thompson
He's...
I mean, he trained at London Shoot where I used to train.
I started training just after he left, but I did do a...
Like a game, a video game shoot with him.
And it was just after he'd been stabbed.
And he'd come out of the hospital.
He was very thin looking.
You know, I'm used to seeing him, like everyone else at events, you know, around and that.
And he always, you know, quite...
Not muscular, but lean and healthy.
And when I saw him, he just looked very, very drawn, man.
joe rogan
Yeah.
james colossus thompson
Fucking hell.
And that's what he lives every day, you know, that kind of shit, getting stabbed, shooting.
joe rogan
Yeah.
james colossus thompson
Literally, some of the stories.
And, you know, stories go over the top and people get carried away, especially when you're telling gangster stories.
But there's some from so many good people who I know who are there, and they're like, fucking hell, really?
Yeah.
Like, having massive fights, fucking punching through a car window.
joe rogan
Well, that's everybody found out about him because of the street fight with Tito Ortiz.
That allegedly, you know, Tito has one version of it and Pat Miletic and the other guys that were there have another version of it.
But the bottom line was somehow, so they got in some sort of a fight.
james colossus thompson
Yeah, I don't believe Tito's.
joe rogan
I could never say.
I wasn't there.
james colossus thompson
I heard you were there, Joel.
joe rogan
I wasn't there?
james colossus thompson
I heard you started it.
I didn't.
joe rogan
These are untruths.
james colossus thompson
These are untruths.
I'm just saying what I heard.
joe rogan
But he was a part, allegedly, of, a lot of people don't know the story, the biggest bank robbery in the history of England, right?
james colossus thompson
Yeah.
No doubt.
joe rogan
It is fucking crazy.
If you look at the security cam footage, it's like you're looking at a Sylvester Stallone movie.
Like a Guy Ritchie movie.
This can't be real.
They can't be dressed with ski goggles on and commando outfits and machine guns, and they can't be really robbing a bank, because this is just bananas, the way they did it.
james colossus thompson
It's a bank, apparently, which didn't have that much security, and the reason why, apparently, they didn't have that much security is because no one knows where it is.
That's why it's...
That's like, so it's a blank building with, obviously, it's going to be fucking secure, but not ultimate, because they don't want to attract attention to it.
So no one, and that's why they're thinking it's got to be an inside job, which you kind of look at anyway.
joe rogan
I think a lot of that stuff is probably inside jobs.
If you're making 50 grand a year, and you're working in a place like that, you know, how much does that fuck with your head?
Could you imagine?
james colossus thompson
You see that money going back and forth every day.
Like that, and you're just standing there watching it.
joe rogan
And you're just a banker.
And you're a banker, and you're like, how do I ever get rich as a banker?
james colossus thompson
And you're thinking it's right in front of my face.
joe rogan
And you've got a crazy cousin, and you tell that crazy cousin when you're drinking, there would be a way we could rob it.
I mean, we shouldn't rob it, but...
Next thing you know, your cousin starts bringing out the meth, and you're smoking meth with them, and you're like, we're going to rob this fucking place, and we're going to be rich!
james colossus thompson
Rich, I say rich!
I'm there, Joe, I'm there, let's go.
I'm looking up these like they're the fucking meth.
joe rogan
Yeah, those are rock salt because it's like, somehow or another it's supposed to give off good energy.
I don't know if that's horse shit or not, but I'm going to go Melissa Etheridge on this bitch and just accept it.
It is salt, but it's kind of cool.
A couple months, maybe.
A month or so.
james colossus thompson
So do you feel much good work?
joe rogan
I'm not sure.
I'm feeling pretty good, James Thompson.
I don't know if it's the rocks.
That's the problem with a lot of different things.
It's like, how much of it is a placebo effect?
Why does a fucking placebo effect work?
That's a weird thing, man.
Why does that work?
james colossus thompson
Because you believe it.
joe rogan
Yeah, but why does it actually work sometimes?
james colossus thompson
Because you believe it.
joe rogan
I know, but scientifically, what the fuck is going on with your mind?
That your mind can take a pill and think it does something good, so all of a sudden it does do something good.
I mean, that is an amazing property of the human body.
james colossus thompson
100% it is.
And this is what I'm saying.
If you believe it, If you, oh, I've gone old Murphy forever, it's the fucking...
joe rogan
You've touched the crystals and you're in the power source right now.
James Thompson, just go with your feelings, man.
Express yourself.
Express yourself.
james colossus thompson
But no, when I listen to that podcast, I know, for me, she's quite hippie.
joe rogan
Melissa Etheridge, yes.
She was awesome.
Great lady, beautiful person.
james colossus thompson
I saw much of what she said.
I was like, yes.
She said the secret, she liked it, but she said it's like the fast food of positive thinking and all that easy fix.
And I thought, what a great way to sum it up.
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't know if she's right about her.
Her idea was that you sort of manifest reality from your own mind, your imagination, but she might be right.
I don't know.
I mean, I don't necessarily believe it, but I don't disbelieve it either.
I think it's an interesting possibility to consider.
Or it might be a combination of, you know, random events and how much you guide it with your own thoughts and your own mind.
james colossus thompson
Well, I don't think anyone does, and that's the thing.
When I was listening to her, it was like, wow, yeah.
And not agreeing, but seeing where she's coming from, and yeah, okay, wow.
And a lot of it.
And then, but it seemed a bit too definite.
Like, that is the way it is.
And she would say, I think, that's the way it is to her.
joe rogan
Yes.
james colossus thompson
So therefore, it's...
joe rogan
Well, I also think she would say it's very self-serving to be – I mean self-serving in a positive way to be definite because if you want to believe in something, like if you want to really believe in something, you have to believe in it 100 percent for it to work.
You can't have a placebo effect where – actually, I think that's not true.
I think there's been a study that showed that they did give people placebos and – Tell them there was a placebo, and it still had a measurable effect.
brian redban
Yeah, it was some pill that they gave.
They knew the whole time it was just a fake pill, but it still worked.
joe rogan
But I think those are the same people that you could hypnotize.
brian redban
Which is most people, I think.
james colossus thompson
You can hypnotize everyone.
joe rogan
Everybody?
Everybody 100%?
james colossus thompson
You can hypnotize them as long as they're relaxed.
See, I've tried.
You would say, but you won't relax because I'm going to hypnotize you now.
You would definitely tense up.
joe rogan
I don't know.
I talked to a guy who's a hypnotist and he said that some people you can't hypnotize.
james colossus thompson
Right.
joe rogan
That was his words.
james colossus thompson
But that's because...
They won't let themselves relax.
I don't think it's that.
joe rogan
I don't think I would ever let anybody run my thoughts.
james colossus thompson
Exactly.
joe rogan
It's not that I wouldn't relax.
I could absolutely relax.
But I'm not really into letting other people run my thoughts.
You're getting sleepy.
I know what I'm getting, bitch.
james colossus thompson
So if you're there, I'm really relaxed.
You're not getting into my head.
joe rogan
Especially if you think that the guy who's hypnotizing you is dumber than you.
You're like, there's no way, motherfucker.
There's no way.
You're going to fill my brain up with some dumb dumb shit.
james colossus thompson
That's what I see.
I'd love to see Darren Brown on it.
Do you watch his shit?
joe rogan
No, I've heard of him.
james colossus thompson
Oh, mate.
joe rogan
Is he a hypnotist as well?
He's a magician, right?
james colossus thompson
No, no, no.
It's in between.
He's kind of like a...
unidentified
Does both?
james colossus thompson
Yeah.
joe rogan
Just a super trickster?
james colossus thompson
Yeah.
It's a super trickster.
That is what he is.
It is.
He does.
And some of it, he says, this is why it's a trick.
And he'll explain why it's this and why it's that.
And the only one he didn't get right, and this was the only one he did, he hypnotized the guy, fucking got him to go to the bank, got him to get 10 grand out of his own account.
Then he said to him, they got this guy by random and then he took him to a roulette thing and he said, right, I'm going to get your...
Oh, the guy was watching on the screen and he said, I'm going to get your money, I'm going to put it on one number.
If it loses, it loses.
If it wins, the money's yours.
So the guy's like...
And he showed him the video of him hypnotising and that it was his money.
joe rogan
Right.
james colossus thompson
So he's seen that and he's been studying the fucking spins and tapping his foot and doing all this stuff leading up to it.
Anyway, when it comes to it, gets it fucking wrong.
joe rogan
Gets it fucking wrong.
james colossus thompson
And he gets everything.
And then before that, he predicted the lottery numbers of six of them.
But obviously he said it was a trick.
Or was it?
At the end it was a little bit.
joe rogan
No, it's a trick.
james colossus thompson
Well, it's got to be a trick.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's why I love Penn and Teller.
They tell you what the fuck the tricks are.
james colossus thompson
Yeah, but Darren Brown leaves it.
I mean, so with the lottery thing, I like that because it's like that shows.
When it comes to, like, Lady Luck, well, fuck you.
Do you know what I mean?
Do not think you're getting one over on Lady Luck, because she will slap you down.
joe rogan
That's the big issue that people have with psychics.
Like, if you really were psychic, wouldn't you win every lottery?
Like, what are you doing, stupid?
You can make a lot of money playing the lottery.
Imagine if you won the lottery, like, every week, and everybody would be like, hey, asshole, what the fuck are you doing?
They're like, dude, I'm psychic.
james colossus thompson
I wonder how many times you'd win it before you got bored and you'd do something else.
joe rogan
Well, Vegas won't let you win that many times in a row.
Vegas will kick you out of casinos, even if you're not doing anything illegal.
Like David Cho.
He's been kicked out of casinos.
He's just too smart.
They're like, you gotta get out of here, you fuck.
You're thinking too much, and you got a system, and it works too well.
james colossus thompson
They won't say that to me.
joe rogan
They won't say that to you?
They won't kick you out?
Why is that?
Because you're too big?
james colossus thompson
Nope.
Because I'm giving them lots of money.
joe rogan
You've given them lots of money.
james colossus thompson
Yeah, because I'd be there.
joe rogan
Yeah, but if you started winning them...
But if you started winning...
james colossus thompson
No.
joe rogan
Man, they'd boot you up.
james colossus thompson
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
But you've had a gambling problem.
That's what you're trying to say.
james colossus thompson
Yes, yeah.
I'd be there.
They'd be trying to phone me.
I'd be like, I've got more money to give you.
Fuck, I'm not finished losing.
joe rogan
Why do you get crazy and gamble so much?
james colossus thompson
I don't know, that's like a question, well, it's not a question everyone asks us, but I didn't ask yourself, you know, why, and I don't know, I'm not copping out here, I'm saying maybe some part genetic, or my fault.
joe rogan
I understand what you're saying, you're just being honest about the source.
james colossus thompson
Yeah, my father had a gambling problem.
joe rogan
Do you have a proper gambling problem?
james colossus thompson
Yeah, yeah, yeah, proper posh gambling.
joe rogan
So he was, and you saw this when you were growing up?
james colossus thompson
No, no, I never met my dad.
The first time, I never met him, and do you know what?
I never even thought about him, because my mom was that good.
joe rogan
Well, that's amazing, man.
james colossus thompson
Fucking hell, isn't it?
When you think of it, because there was a And then, you know, when she met my dad, it was, you know, I was like, I remember, you know, telling him, I'll get him over and this and that.
Because I just wanted that father figure, I suppose.
But, yeah, the first time I found out my dad was dead was my mum came to the door and let her in, which is polite.
And then I said to her...
Then she said to me, because I didn't know yet, she said to me,''Your dad's dead.'' I went,''Oh, right.'' And that was it.
And then she told me about the funeral, and we went to, she picked me up, went to the funeral, and we're having a coffee, and she talked about it, and then we were laughing after five minutes.
Not at it, but just because he was nothing.
joe rogan
You just weren't really that sad.
unidentified
No, I wasn't.
joe rogan
So you didn't have a big place in your life.
james colossus thompson
Well, I never met him.
joe rogan
Right.
But he had a gambling problem, is your point?
james colossus thompson
Yeah.
joe rogan
And so you feel like it's probably genetic that you have one as well?
james colossus thompson
Fucking hell.
joe rogan
Fucking hell?
unidentified
What?
james colossus thompson
I just went on such a tangent, I forgot what we were fucking talking about.
joe rogan
Yeah, we were talking about the gambling.
So, do you, like, what is it?
Like, you get in casinos and you just can't help yourself?
You just start playing cards.
What do you play?
james colossus thompson
Blackjack.
unidentified
Yeah?
james colossus thompson
That's how I got the fucking...
joe rogan
You got blackjack tattooed on your arm.
james colossus thompson
Well, going up in flames.
joe rogan
Wow.
james colossus thompson
And then I got a positive reaffirming message.
joe rogan
What does it say?
james colossus thompson
I'll find strength in pain.
Oh, don't laugh!
I'm fucking mad, Joe!
unidentified
Come on, man.
joe rogan
You got cards on fire on your arm.
Listen, I got some goofy tattoos, too.
It's okay, bro.
james colossus thompson
No, but I don't think of it as goofy.
brian redban
Mine means waterfalls.
joe rogan
Yeah, he thought it was good in his name.
james colossus thompson
Have you gotten a one?
joe rogan
Yeah, one by a friend who's learning how to tattoo.
james colossus thompson
If you want to really have a laugh, I got...
joe rogan
What is that?
james colossus thompson
I got the Serenity Purr.
joe rogan
Well, that's not funny.
I think that's actually kind of interesting.
james colossus thompson
They say the funny bit, the dates are crossed out.
joe rogan
The dates are crossed out?
james colossus thompson
Yeah, because that was the last time I gambled.
I gambled, so I crossed it out.
joe rogan
Oh, wow, and then you make another one?
You're going to run out of room, son.
unidentified
Yeah, well, I did run out of room.
james colossus thompson
That date's not gone yet.
joe rogan
Wow, so that's your biggest issue, is gambling.
How long has this existed for in your life?
james colossus thompson
Four years after the Kimball fight.
joe rogan
Really?
That's when you started gambling like crazy?
Do you know that there's a study that recently came out that said that there might be a connection between gambling addictions and brain damage?
james colossus thompson
Is it?
joe rogan
Yeah.
And brain damage.
james colossus thompson
I'm probably a fucking good test candidate for that.
unidentified
Yeah, you might be, man.
james colossus thompson
I think he's hinting at something.
joe rogan
No, I'm not hinting at anything, but it was a recent study.
I would have to tell you about this, I mean, if I had known.
Actually, it wasn't that recent.
It was like 2003. Who have suffered head impacts.
And obviously you're very functional.
It's not like I'm saying you've got brain damage.
But everybody who's been hit in the head has a certain amount of brain damage.
I'm sure I have brain damage as well.
Yeah, I know what I'm saying.
But this was a connection between that and pathological gamblers.
You know, that's a fascinating connection.
james colossus thompson
Well, I started thinking, through listening to your show all the time, and hearing about the football players and the concussions and things like that, And hearing about the depression, now I was going through, I've been through a very bad depression, and I wondered if that, being knocked out so many times, getting conclusions and such forth, and drug problems I've had.
I had a problem with GHB, which is...
joe rogan
That's that stuff that makes you sleep?
james colossus thompson
Yeah.
I had a problem with that, and it's not excuses, you know, because it's not like, oh, yeah, that's why I've got shit defence and I'm not great stand-up, OK? But on top of that, taking that, going out, and also it's a mental attitude of not concentrating to training as an effect.
joe rogan
Well, it seems like you took fighting less seriously then than you do now.
When you first started, did you not understand the consequences?
Was it a matter of that?
Was it a matter of it just became something where you just really decided, I gotta get dedicated if I wanna keep doing this?
james colossus thompson
I took it seriously.
I've seen it, I knew I wanted to do it, and I went to my show.
joe rogan
But you just jumped right in the prime.
james colossus thompson
Yeah, yeah, because that, well, because it was just the way it was.
I've been thinking about this.
Now, to me, I went, I saw it, I thought, I can do that, and I did it, right?
I kind of believed it, and I saw the fighting, and I saw Nog, and I thought, I'm not too far off after this fucking, unbelievably fucking naive.
And then I went in, And I had my first fight and I could do it, and I thought, yeah, okay, I can do this.
And then ten shows later, I'm in the main event against Dan Severin, and loads of people are fucking watching me.
And I knew it at that time.
At that time, going to the first event, I said to my girlfriend at the time, I'll be main event.
And I'm not like that.
But I said it, and I just knew it.
And so because I believed it, it happened.
And I made it happen.
joe rogan
But also because you're gigantic and you worked out.
unidentified
Oh yeah.
joe rogan
That made it happen too.
james colossus thompson
No, but I didn't work out.
joe rogan
It's like if you didn't work out?
james colossus thompson
No, no.
I was working out because I was training.
So I was.
I trained hard for my first fight.
I've done wrestling before, so I was relatively fit, but not fit fit.
joe rogan
Right, but you jumped into the deep end of the pool right away.
Yeah, I did, yeah.
You fought Alexander Melianenko, who was a high-level MMA heavyweight.
Within how many months of you beginning training and striking?
james colossus thompson
Well, I've been fighting for about a year, just over a year.
But I wasn't training, I didn't have a team then.
I was still in the little dojos and that.
And it was all a bit, so this is what happens then.
You know, you go on your little shoulder, and now I'm ready, I know.
And I remember watching Emile Enco on a video, and I was thinking, yeah, okay.
I was shitting myself, but I was like, yeah, I can do this.
Okay, I can do it.
joe rogan
That was a crazy fight, dude.
That was a crazy fight.
You just charged after him.
james colossus thompson
But what you saw there was me being serious.
That was authentic rage.
Have you seen my video?
I explained it.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, I did see that video.
You make a lot of videos now.
Yeah, I'm loving it.
A lot of video blogs and stuff and putting them online.
james colossus thompson
No, I've really enjoyed it.
I've been lucky enough.
I've got...
I met a guy, Cy Pierce, and he directs and does a film.
I told him about a few ideas.
He came down, started doing these, putting these, my ideas into play, and yeah, it's going really well.
joe rogan
That's cool, man.
So this, um, this colossal concerns, things that you're doing, all these videos and the blogs and everything, it seems like you're really excited about this.
Like, you're constantly tweeting, telling everybody to retweet your shit.
james colossus thompson
I'm pain in the ass, man.
joe rogan
A little bit of pain in the ass about it, but I appreciate the...
I like what you're doing.
I like that you're very enthusiastic about it.
james colossus thompson
See, that's what I'll take.
I'll take.
That's a bit annoying.
joe rogan
Sorry, it doesn't annoy me.
james colossus thompson
No.
joe rogan
But it annoys other people.
I don't mind.
james colossus thompson
Are you sure?
joe rogan
Yeah, it doesn't bother me.
brian redban
I just get scared.
james colossus thompson
I'm trying to make you scared.
I'm trying to make you...
joe rogan
People are asking me to retweet shit.
It's normal for me.
james colossus thompson
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's the thing.
I think in the future, that's what will be the...
Redband, I'm stealing this off Redband.
That's what he said.
In the future, likes will be currency.
brian redban
Currency, yeah.
james colossus thompson
And that is true.
joe rogan
Yeah.
james colossus thompson
That is very true.
joe rogan
I really think that that would be the best way to live the life, live the world.
If you could actually work it out that way, so being nice and helping people would give you the most currency, that would be the most beautiful world ever.
james colossus thompson
It would, but would it be that simple?
joe rogan
No, it can't be that simple.
We're not living in a goddamn movie.
james colossus thompson
No, no, as in people would hack it.
Exactly.
There'd be all that kind of fucking bullshit going on.
joe rogan
Some wacky coder son of a bitch would get in there and exert his intellectual dominance over that computer and fucking whack it out and have a billion likes.
james colossus thompson
Fuckheads.
It'd just be completely glowing.
joe rogan
You have more likes than there are people.
So, suck it.
unidentified
Suck it.
joe rogan
Everyone suck it.
I cracked the code, bitch.
Yeah, that's a beautiful idea.
They've got to figure out something better than letting old people just keep it and make everybody else pay interest on it and the federal bank and all this.
You see all these big giant banks that supposedly control these different aspects of our political systems, yours and ours.
james colossus thompson
Did you see the… You go, what?
Off the Federal Reserve, like a partial bit of it got printed and it was trillions of dollars, trillions going to different banks all over.
joe rogan
I see what you're saying.
Yeah, the secret hidden bailouts that we didn't know about for trillions of dollars.
james colossus thompson
What is that?
joe rogan
It's crazy.
james colossus thompson
What do you get for that though?
What do you get for trillions?
joe rogan
It's robbery right in front of your face.
james colossus thompson
But what do you get for it?
You give it to the banks, you bail them out for trillions.
What do you get back?
joe rogan
Justifiable robbery.
That's what it is.
They figured out how to jack the system, how to extract insane amounts of cash, how to have these mansions in the Hamptons.
They figured it out, okay?
You can't be hatin'.
You've got to throw your system away.
It's infested with rats.
The system doesn't work at all.
But no one's willing to do that.
No one is willing to start from zero.
If you worked your whole life and you got 50 grand in the bank, you're not going to give that 50 grand up.
And neither is the guy who's got a million dollars in the bank.
He's not going to give that million dollars up.
What?
And we're all going to start at zero?
Get the fuck out of here.
I wouldn't.
Because there's a lot of assholes out there that shouldn't even be at zero.
They should be at negative 50. Fucking lazy bitches, right?
There's a lot of people that don't contribute their share.
So unfortunately, capitalism as it stands right now is what we got.
james colossus thompson
Well, that's the thing.
No one's come up with a good alternative.
joe rogan
Well, we need to.
It's really silly.
Because in 2013, the idea that this is...
And I'm not a socialist by any stretch of the imagination.
I think people need to pull their own weight and a lot of people don't.
I think there's a lot of lazy fucks out there.
There's a lot of people that just lack motivation, they lack direction, they lack focus, they self-sabotage.
You shouldn't reward that.
I don't think you should reward that.
But on the other hand, this system is fucking crazy.
This stock market where you're gambling on the ups and downs, you're owing pieces of companies.
Get the fuck out of here.
james colossus thompson
It's so complicated no one even knows what it is.
joe rogan
It's nuts.
Derivatives.
james colossus thompson
Inventing stuff.
joe rogan
I've had friends that are stockbrokers try to explain to me derivatives and I'm like, wow.
How is that legal?
How is any of this legal?
How is shorting legal?
How are lobbyists legal?
It's a fucking kooky system.
And you're like, well, someone should really come in and overhaul it, but in order to do that...
james colossus thompson
It's almost like they must know that it can't keep going on.
So it's like, is it on purpose?
joe rogan
I think it's an old car that they keep trying to patch up.
That's what I think.
You know, if you had like a 1950 fucking Chevrolet, those are boring to drive.
They suck, those old fucking cars, man.
If you had to get on the highway every day and go from, say, Sherman Oaks to downtown LA, you had to make that drive every day in the heat in a Model T. You'd fucking hate it.
You'd go crazy.
Because it's an old piece of shit.
No matter what you do, whether you add a new stereo to it or you fucking put...
Shiny rims on it.
It's designed like shit.
It's an old piece of shit.
You don't want to have to drive an old piece of shit.
If I give you a nice Honda Accord, you'd be like, oh, look at this.
It's quiet.
It doesn't fall when I turn the wheel.
It doesn't fall on its side.
Those old cars were pieces of shit.
And that's our system.
Our system is an old piece of shit.
And we haven't thrown it out yet.
We haven't just like fucking grabbed it.
And yanked the gears out and melted it all down and made a new system.
james colossus thompson
If someone comes up with something which works...
joe rogan
They'll never let them!
james colossus thompson
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, that's hitting it.
joe rogan
Well, it's a thinly disguised...
King and disciple situation.
It's thinly disguised.
The people that are in the position of power, it's not just one, but it's a group that are unquestionably the kings of this country.
james colossus thompson
But it's changing, isn't it?
As in, like, with the internet, with people getting more knowledge, you know, it's filtering through, people are more aware of it, you know, and it's...
joe rogan
What are you doing, dude?
I think with the people that are in charge of it, the only thing that's changing is that it's out in the open.
And then people are just accepting it now with full knowledge.
james colossus thompson
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like when you see that people can have, like, do you know anything about this Fast and Furious?
Do you know what happened?
Do you hear about this?
james colossus thompson
With the guns in Mexico.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, there's a thing called the executive privilege, you know, like the president can say he doesn't want to talk about it.
unidentified
So they can just say executive privilege.
james colossus thompson
That's like Cheney and Bush not testifying together.
Why?
Why not?
Why not testify together?
And then why look so fucking shifty about it?
Did you see that?
Yeah.
And I mean, you can't say, I'm thinking he's lying.
joe rogan
If they didn't know that something was going to happen, they absolutely did profit on the fact that it did happen.
james colossus thompson
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know?
james colossus thompson
Well, it's there.
joe rogan
You can't deny it.
It's the most obvious connected dots paper trail ever.
If you look at, like, Dick Cheney was the head of Halliburton.
Halliburton is a company that rebuilds countries after we've bombed them.
And that company, the CEO is the vice president, and all of a sudden that company is making billions of dollars.
Like, what are you talking about?
james colossus thompson
See, that's what I wonder.
Maybe they knew about it, maybe even helped him a little bit.
I don't know.
And then that way, I'll maybe have a team that do this and they don't really tell them what they're doing and what it's for and you get the decided effect without everyone knowing what the fuck's going on.
joe rogan
I would like to tell you that that's not possible, that there's no one who'd be willing to do that.
But the problem with saying that is that the only real issue someone would have about our government doing that Would be that it's sacrificing American lives and that they would kill American lives and let American people die.
No, they're here to protect us.
So that's the one thing that some people would hold back.
But what they undeniably would all agree to is that we don't really have a problem with killing people in other countries.
We don't really have a problem.
If we decide that they're the enemy, we'll kill you with robots that fly from the sky and shoot rockets indiscriminately into villages, okay?
That's how we'll kill you.
So a company that's willing to do that – let's just say a company.
Let's call it a company instead of a country.
Because it's not us.
It's whoever the fuck is the one who gets to pull the buttons and pull the switches.
james colossus thompson
They're willing to do that.
That's why I don't think it can continue.
Like you said earlier, well now people are just knowing about it and doing nothing.
I think eventually they're just knowing about it.
I think the next stage is...
joe rogan
I think the problem is that it's very hard to stop.
And in fairness to the people that are in the military, there's a lot of them that join the military with very good intentions.
And they get into that position and they're stuck in a battle.
And it's not them that's the problem.
The problem is, why were they sent there in the first place?
But once you're in, for everyone who's a soldier, you know what it becomes, man?
It becomes taking care of your friends.
That's what it becomes.
It becomes taking care of your boys, taking care of your girls, taking care of the people you love.
Those are the people you're with every day in a war zone.
So it doesn't become about your ideology, whether or not you believe in this war.
It becomes just a battle, and there's no way around that.
james colossus thompson
I was talking to my friend who's in the army, and we were talking, he's in the Marines, and I was saying to him, We're just having a general discussion about how fucked it is about this and that.
Basically, he's doing the government's work.
And he said to me, basically, I always think I've got to go back because my mates are and make sure they're okay.
I never thought of it like that.
joe rogan
He always has to go back and think about his friends.
You're fucking bullets are whizzing by you.
You're carrying each other sometimes.
You're looking out for each other.
You're in a war zone.
That's what it becomes.
So the real issue is, well, how do you stop the whole thing?
How do you stop the whole thing?
Because I don't know if you do.
Because you do a lot of goddamn damage and then people that you did that damage to are always going to want to come back at you.
So there's no doubt about it.
And there's no doubt that this damage has been done.
So it's not an easy thing to step in and sort of settle the world down.
But I do agree with you that the Internet is changing it to the point where that is the inevitable future.
I think the realization of what everyone's actions are actually accomplishing and actually doing and to what detriment our actions are, it's going to get to a point where things – Level out much more so than they ever have in the past because governments could do anything behind your back.
They could do all kinds of sneaky shit and you could never know about it ever until 50, 60 years ago.
Then people started leaking information like the Kennedy Times.
Before that, god damn, how does the average person get information that there's corruption going on in society?
How does the average person get that?
You're not getting a lot of it, but you're getting so much of it now.
It's like every day on Twitter and every day on Facebook and every day people are emailing people links and Twittering shit to their friends and it just gets to a mad frenzy of ideas now.
I don't even think we're aware of how strange it is.
I think we're just used to it because we're in it and this is our life now.
But I think if we looked at life today, just a few decades ago, we would go, this is crazy.
This is a fucking science fiction movie with you freaks.
james colossus thompson
I mean, I came in.
Came in early, and I was talking to Brian, and then he showed me something that did a little fucking video.
Like a seven-second line, and he was like, with the finger, doing something, and then shows a little film.
And that's like the next thing, other than Twitter, or like a video message that lasts seven seconds.
joe rogan
Yes, it's a video message that lasts seven seconds.
It's called Vine, and Brian just got into it, and apparently a lot of people like this silly shit now.
unidentified
There it is.
james colossus thompson
Look at that.
There you go.
That's what I was talking about.
joe rogan
Did you splice all this together yourself?
brian redban
It just does it automatically.
It's literally like you just push a button every time you want to record, and when you don't push it, it just pauses the recording, and it makes it animated.
joe rogan
Oh, so you just smash them all together yourself?
brian redban
Yeah, it just does it automatically.
joe rogan
Oh, that's cool.
I like it.
I'm going to start using that shit.
brian redban
It's fun, man.
It's really addicting.
But what's crazy is that everywhere you look, people are vining.
And so it's just a bunch of people walking around like this in the air.
joe rogan
Is it Vine.com?
brian redban
No, it's an app on your iPhone.
joe rogan
Oh, it's an app.
brian redban
Yeah, and it should be coming out on Droid soon.
Twitter just bought the company.
joe rogan
Does it link up with Twitter?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, powerful.
brian redban
And you can also send it to Facebook and everything, but it's really fun.
joe rogan
Can I keep my Twitter name?
Do I have to register a new name?
brian redban
Yeah, you can keep your Twitter name, but it's also really weird because I think you can just have a million names.
joe rogan
Oh, that's great.
You're going to get a lot of assholes.
brian redban
It's really hard to find people.
joe rogan
As soon as you allow people to be anonymous, you have a bunch of different names.
They're going to have conversations with themselves.
We had a guy on our message board once that they busted doing that.
He had more than one account, and he was talking on message boards.
He would go and...
Make a post about his music and then come back and say, hey, thanks, man.
I really appreciate that.
james colossus thompson
That's so bad.
That's so bad that I came out.
I did that.
joe rogan
It's classic.
It's hilarious.
james colossus thompson
Imagine that.
What did you do today?
Oh, you know, just talk to myself.
joe rogan
But it's kind of funny because is that any different than some bullshit commercial that a company puts out?
You know, where you're driving down the street and like, I'm so glad that we're here driving on these Goodyear tires because they make me feel secure.
Me too, darling.
That's horse shit too.
james colossus thompson
Yeah, you're getting that projected at you.
You're not going out and doing it.
joe rogan
I guess it's more deceitful.
It's more...
james colossus thompson
It's more cringe fucking worthy, isn't it?
unidentified
Oh, fuck me.
joe rogan
Getting caught.
james colossus thompson
Oh, yeah.
Oh, thank you.
Ever so...
Oh, don't...
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
Getting caught.
james colossus thompson
What are you like?
joe rogan
Oh, you suck.
james colossus thompson
Oh, fuck it.
Goddammit.
Imagine if you just pissed up and you did it that one time.
Just as a...
Just because you were just in one of those stupid moods and it came out that you were doing that.
joe rogan
You're done, son.
You can't do that.
james colossus thompson
You can't explain that one away.
unidentified
Yeah, you've got to take your lumps.
joe rogan
That's a tough one because people are just not going to trust you again.
james colossus thompson
Yeah.
joe rogan
We were talking yesterday with my friend Sam Sheridan about this author.
I forget the guy's name.
He made up a bunch of Bob Dylan quotes and apparently he was like a great author but he made up these quotes and then when they like tried to check him on it and tried to like find the source of these quotes he like got arrogant about it and then they started researching it and they wouldn't let it go and apparently they found that he just made them up.
james colossus thompson
To put in his book and then he could write Yeah, whatever you want.
To that quote what he just made up.
joe rogan
Sure, yeah, you could put a Bob Dylan quote and say, it's one of the most poignant things that Bob ever wrote.
james colossus thompson
I think he was thinking this at the time.
joe rogan
Yeah, I think when Bob said this, it spoke to my soul because I was a part of that flower child movement of the 60s.
I was on Haight-Ashbury.
I was wearing a bandana with live flowers in it.
james colossus thompson
Oh, I'm there.
joe rogan
Fucking freaks.
Yeah, so this guy just ruined him.
Ruined him.
So I think this other guy, it's kind of similar.
It's like no one's going to really take you seriously.
james colossus thompson
No, you're fucked.
joe rogan
Unless you go do ayahuasca or something.
You've got to go to Peru.
You've got to prove yourself, bitch.
james colossus thompson
Yeah, it's a bit like that Mendez character, isn't it?
I've seen a...
joe rogan
Mendez character?
james colossus thompson
The Fala Steeler.
Joke Steeler character.
brian redban
Far less.
james colossus thompson
Was fat than thin.
joe rogan
The drug dealer character?
james colossus thompson
No, not drug dealer.
The fucking jokes dealer.
unidentified
Did I say drug dealer then?
I think you did.
brian redban
I don't know.
joe rogan
It's hard to understand you.
james colossus thompson
I hate to break it to you.
I don't quite know how to say this.
unidentified
We don't know what the fuck you've been saying.
joe rogan
We do have a bit of an accent, my friend.
james colossus thompson
Is it?
Oh, fucking hell.
joe rogan
It's funny.
I remember certain guys, like Terry Edom.
Terry Edom's got a very, very strong accent.
He talks and you're like, whoo!
Trying to put that together.
Paul Taylor.
james colossus thompson
I don't know why.
England.
joe rogan
Michael Bisping.
james colossus thompson
Yeah, there's so many.
I don't know why England.
It's a small place.
It's tiny.
joe rogan
Right.
james colossus thompson
And there's so many different accents.
joe rogan
A lot of accents, but it's a very strong accent.
It's interesting.
And the accent, it's very fitting for the people that live in England.
james colossus thompson
What?
Do you mean because they have to be tough to get so shit?
joe rogan
A little bit.
It's different.
It's just different.
It's a different place.
The fact that you guys talk so much different, it's fucking different, man.
Human beings, we look at the whole world and we like to think that it's just like it is here but it's over there.
We think like live in Africa, live in Saudi Arabia, whatever.
Meh, as long as we're there together, it'll be like, you know, it'd be like us here.
No, that's not the case.
You go to England, you're like, well, this is a different world.
These guys have completely different expectations.
They're driving on the left-hand side.
They don't give a fuck about you, or your crazy laws, or your quarters don't mean shit there.
They're not real.
You know, it's like, wow, this is a totally different place with their own money.
And like, you know, you'll see people on TV that are important.
You're like, who the fuck Who the fuck is that guy?
You have no idea who their prime minister is.
You have no idea who any of these people are.
You hear Margaret Thatcher every now and then.
We know her.
We know the prince.
We'll follow your royal family but we don't know what the fuck is going on.
So it's fascinating to be over there.
It's a totally different world.
England is, first of all, it's got a massive amount of history.
There's so much history in England.
There's so many years, many, many, like, if you look at the history of the United States, you're only dealing with like 200 plus years.
But England, you're like, Jesus Christ, you guys go back over a thousand.
So it's like you have some really old pubs that have been open since like the 1400s, right?
Aren't there?
unidentified
Yeah.
james colossus thompson
Yeah, yeah.
100% there's some real, real fucking old shit in England.
joe rogan
Yeah, really old shit.
james colossus thompson
We've got old shit.
We're good.
joe rogan
Old shit.
james colossus thompson
We've old shit.
joe rogan
You could go to a pubs.
Stop and think about that.
That's been open since the 1400s.
james colossus thompson
What the fuck, man?
They still have the same barmaid.
joe rogan
How did you guys deal?
You have kings and queens still, or at least you have a queen, but you don't really.
They don't really get to tell you what to do.
It's a different situation.
It's almost like they're actors playing the queen and king.
james colossus thompson
Yeah, it's like they've They've got to add a deal, and they've kept them a lot, you know, they don't have any power, but you just...
joe rogan
They give them money, and they make them look badass, and they wave, they do like that, and they just show the most proper behavior.
james colossus thompson
And then, if they don't, you know what I mean, that's why probably the queen gets so pissed off.
Because we could lose our fucking money.
joe rogan
Yeah, you could lose that gig, keep it together, you little cunts.
james colossus thompson
Yeah, you could get fucking fired.
joe rogan
You gotta act royal.
Yeah, exactly.
james colossus thompson
Keep it posh and proper.
joe rogan
Posh and proper.
brian redban
Keep calm.
joe rogan
Yeah, and creep on.
So, like, you see that, like, that whole setup with the castle and all that jazz.
It's really fascinating because they don't really run the country, right?
james colossus thompson
No, no.
joe rogan
You guys have, like, a democracy, right?
Yeah, yeah.
100%?
james colossus thompson
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Do kings, can you try them for crimes and shit like that?
james colossus thompson
No, I think they're...
This is what...
I imagine you can't...
But I reckon if there was something...
If the king...
We haven't got a king.
If the queen...
Got caught.
joe rogan
Right.
james colossus thompson
Doing something.
joe rogan
Like lesbo shit.
unidentified
Oh.
brian redban
You can't even say that.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can.
I just did.
I'm an American, bitch.
james colossus thompson
Mate.
joe rogan
Land of the free, home of the brave.
I don't give a fuck, okay?
james colossus thompson
Oh.
I can't take that.
I can't take that for my queen, Joe Rogan.
I won't take that for my queen.
No.
You crossed the line.
joe rogan
This is not true.
This is 100% joking, ladies and gentlemen.
This is all jokes.
No disrespect, man, to her majesty.
brian redban
I bet the Queen has a shy one.
joe rogan
She's joking.
But if she did, what if she had a badass bitch?
What if she had some hot 20-year-old Puerto Rican chick with thick red lipstick and big areolas and her and the Queen just got caught making out?
What's wrong with that, man?
Wouldn't it be great if it was a guy, right?
Wouldn't it be great if it was a guy?
If it was a guy, he was an old guy.
The Queen's single, okay?
If the old guy, by himself, all of a sudden, boom, he's got this hot 20-year-old Just an unbelievably, ridiculously sexually attractive woman on his lap making out with him.
Wouldn't that be awesome?
It would, right?
Well, is there anything wrong with being a lesbian?
I say there's not.
I say there's nothing wrong with being a lesbian.
So, I say if the queen was a lesbian and she was getting some hot pussy, I'd say good for her.
james colossus thompson
There's nothing wrong with that.
I don't want to see it, though.
joe rogan
You don't want to see it?
james colossus thompson
It can happen, but I don't have to see it.
joe rogan
You say you don't want to see it, but if I send you a link, you're clicking it.
unidentified
You're going to click that link, son.
I'm going to send you a link, Mr. Colossus.
james colossus thompson
I'll retweet that one.
joe rogan
You're going to go, well, you know what?
I didn't want to look at it, but it was there.
The motherfucker, he sends it to me.
Next thing I know.
james colossus thompson
I'm going into a bit of Arnold.
unidentified
Next thing I know, I've watched it 500 times in a row while gambling.
joe rogan
Yeah, but you would want to watch.
You would want to watch your queen have a good time.
There's nothing wrong with being a lesbian.
james colossus thompson
I wouldn't, girl.
joe rogan
You wouldn't?
Just out of fair?
What is that?
brian redban
That's the Prince Harry or whatever his name is.
joe rogan
They caught a picture of him naked with a chick?
brian redban
Yeah.
In Vegas.
joe rogan
Okay, who did that?
Who took that picture?
brian redban
I think the folks at Circus Circus.
No.
joe rogan
Circus Circus.
They went Hunter S. Thompson style in Vegas.
Asseted it up in Circus Circus.
james colossus thompson
That wasn't a real picture, wasn't it?
joe rogan
Was that a hidden camera or something?
unidentified
Someone put a hidden camera in there?
brian redban
Well, I think they probably tell your people that it's not a real picture, but I bet that's over.
james colossus thompson
Your people.
joe rogan
You know what I bet it is, man?
I bet a lot of people that are inside the organization, they do that shit on purpose.
They leak that stuff for publicity.
That's how they build a business.
james colossus thompson
What's that real picture?
unidentified
I don't know.
james colossus thompson
I thought you were kidding me.
joe rogan
The guy's holding his dick.
I don't hold my dick when I'm by myself, okay?
If I'm walking around to Vegas, I'm slinging dick like a gangster.
james colossus thompson
When did that come?
joe rogan
It's slapping my left side, slapping my right side.
I'm not holding it like that.
That guy's holding it because he knows they're taking a picture.
That's what I say, okay?
That was some Columbo-type shit, son.
I want some credit for that.
brian redban
It was leaked.
joe rogan
That was MacGyver and Tom Selleck combined.
james colossus thompson
If there's a picture of you in Vegas holding your dick, you won't be wrong.
brian redban
Oh, look at that.
joe rogan
Oh, come on, man.
These guys know these pictures are being taken.
james colossus thompson
This is not real.
brian redban
No, that is real.
james colossus thompson
This is not real.
brian redban
It really is.
joe rogan
I think someone busted out a cell phone.
That's what I think.
You're saying not real because you believe that it's impossible for royals to do anything wrong.
james colossus thompson
Exactly.
joe rogan
How many people are still brainwashed by the royals in England?
Is it still an important thing?
If you were like, fuck the queen, would people be like...
james colossus thompson
It depends on your circle of friends, I suppose.
My friends...
joe rogan
Your friends wouldn't?
james colossus thompson
No, they'd be like, yeah, fuck the queen.
joe rogan
Because if you said...
You're allowed to say, like, fuck the president.
You could say that in this country.
And people would go, hey, easy.
But they won't, like, attack you and beat you up.
But I would imagine...
By the way, all that stuff that I said about the Queen, these are just jokes, ladies and gentlemen.
Just no disrespect meant.
unidentified
I had to go with it.
joe rogan
I would go with it about my own mother, okay?
I would say that joke about my own mother.
Because it's not like, again, nothing wrong with being a lesbian.
And if my mom was a lesbian, I wanted to hook up with a hottie.
So it's my own mom who I love more than anybody on the planet.
She's my mom.
So no worries about it, ladies and gentlemen.
These are just jokes.
How many people are like, because I know that it's got a lot more reverence to it than the president does, right?
james colossus thompson
Yeah, well, like you said earlier, it's so old.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's so old.
james colossus thompson
How far does it even go back?
I don't even know, because I think, where the fuck did that come to pass?
Do you know what I mean?
Basically, it's the hardest, who's got the fucking hardest gang?
joe rogan
Yeah, exactly.
james colossus thompson
That's what it is, isn't it?
joe rogan
That's what it was.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, at one point in time, and the good kings were the ones who didn't abuse you too much.
james colossus thompson
Yeah, exactly.
joe rogan
You know, like, oh, he's a good king.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
He's like, meanwhile, he's living way better than you, and for no reason.
james colossus thompson
I mean, cutting out fuckers' heads.
Beheading.
joe rogan
Oh, beheading wives.
Like, who was that one guy?
Henry VIII? This is where the kid chopped a bunch of his wives' heads off?
They got a little mouthy.
He's like, bitch, I'm done.
I'm done with this.
Yeah, he would get sick of them and assassinate them.
I wonder what he would charge them with.
james colossus thompson
I don't think you need much of an excuse.
joe rogan
But I bet he had a thing, probably a ledger.
People's heads he chopped off.
james colossus thompson
Probably looked kind of funny.
joe rogan
Yeah, you watch shows like Game of Thrones, and I know it's bullshit.
I'm aware, ladies and gentlemen, people are like, I'll talk about Game of Thrones, and people are like, you know it's not real, right?
I'm like, please give me more credit than this.
I saw the dragons, I saw the witches, I'm sure it's not real.
But it's supposed to represent at least the idea of a time.
It's supposed to represent without all the fantasy stuff attached to it as well.
But it's also supposed to represent an idea of a time when there was blacksmiths and swords and horses.
But that was the technology.
It sort of ended there.
There wasn't really any medicine.
There wasn't really any refrigerators.
You just had fucking plates of fruit if you were the king.
james colossus thompson
And like them drumsticks.
unidentified
Yeah.
james colossus thompson
Really massive ones.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Turkey legs and shit.
james colossus thompson
With a big fucking bear.
joe rogan
Mutton.
And a bear.
Stein.
Yeah.
james colossus thompson
Stein.
joe rogan
Right.
Like, did you ever see Beowulf?
james colossus thompson
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's your people.
unidentified
I love that.
joe rogan
That's your people.
brian redban
It's a good movie.
joe rogan
It's a fun movie.
james colossus thompson
Yeah.
Was that a cartoon?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Amazing CGI. That was a great, fun movie.
brian redban
Angelina Jolie's boobies.
Cartoon movies.
joe rogan
Angelina Jolie.
unidentified
He's got some big old boobies.
joe rogan
Remember that?
Got some big ass titties.
Lindsey Lohan.
Got some big ass titties.
brian redban
That's a good song.
joe rogan
That's a great song.
Holly Berry got some big ass titties.
Just see if you can find that.
But it'll get us kicked off YouTube, won't it?
I don't think it will.
brian redban
Is that even a real song?
joe rogan
That shit is not registered.
Give it a chance.
There's no way they're fucking calling.
I'm helping them.
Jesus Christ, ladies and gentlemen.
We have to worry about getting our shit booted off YouTube if we have copyrighted material sometimes.
brian redban
It's too low.
joe rogan
Got some big ass titties.
Halle Berry.
Got some big ass titties.
Yeah, that could have been a fun way.
Even if you were the king, I would rather be a dude who has a decent job today than a king in 2000 years ago.
Wouldn't you?
james colossus thompson
No, I could do good.
joe rogan
You could do good if you were the king?
Oh, is that how you would rock it?
james colossus thompson
Yeah, I would be playing.
joe rogan
They'll kill you.
They'll go right after you.
james colossus thompson
Why?
joe rogan
Fucking kill you in your sleep.
Is this it?
unidentified
Big Ass Titties starring Lindsay Lohan.
I'll be Perry with some big ass titties.
joe rogan
Angelina and Charlie.
Big-ass titties.
unidentified
It don't matter if you C-cups or D-cups, whatever.
I'm trying to get in your ass when I'm spinning my cheddar.
I'm trying to get in your ass when I'm spending my cheddar.
Oh, what the fuck?
joe rogan
Black people are awesome.
unidentified
Shit, man.
I'm spinning my cheddar.
Come on, give me titties.
brian redban
Come on, let me see that.
unidentified
Ma, come on, give me tears.
Ma, come on, let me see.
I need to see them C-clubs, D-clubs, yeah.
joe rogan
I'm so happy that black people exist.
Because white people have never figured out rap.
They would have never figured out how you could brag endlessly and it actually could be an art form and fun to listen to.
It's fun to listen to.
White people lack the flavor to have come up with rap on their own.
We needed black people around to spice it up.
It's very important.
They would've never come out with that.
brian redban
There's a song out right now, Joe.
It's from...
I forget the guy's name, like, ASAP Rocky, I think is his name.
And it's called Fucking Problems, and there's so many cuss words in the song that when they play it on the radio, it's seriously, it was like, you're sitting there like, wait a second, you can't understand a word they're saying, but it has this catchy, like, rhyme that's underneath it that you get into, and it's like a number three song, and you can't understand a word that's in it.
joe rogan
What is the name of it?
brian redban
It's called Fucking Problems by A $AP Rocky.
I actually have this version, but I don't want to play it.
joe rogan
Yeah, don't even play it.
I think that the universe is letting us know in no uncertain terms that it's over.
The fucking show's over.
It's getting completely wacky.
I think that's what reality TV is.
I think that's what this song being the number three song in the world.
Go back to the year, whatever it was, when Midnight Rider came out from the Allman Brothers and compare that song...
To this fucking ridiculous song that has a million cuss words that you can't even play.
unidentified
I wish I could play just a chorus for you because it's so ridiculous.
joe rogan
I don't even want to hear it.
It's the aliens that are sending us a signal.
They're saying, build your ship, okay, and get off this rock.
They're going to start eating each other.
This fucking honey boo boo is going to become an adult and she's going to run the planet.
That's what's going to happen.
james colossus thompson
You do wonder what is next.
joe rogan
Yeah, what is next?
What's next for you, man?
You just fought, right?
Where'd you fight?
james colossus thompson
Not for a while.
My last fight was Bobby Lashley and I got my cheekbone broken.
My orbital bone got fractured, so that put me out for a while.
joe rogan
That was a big victory for you.
james colossus thompson
Yeah, it was.
joe rogan
That was a legit victory, like a good, big name.
It was a good fight, you know, you pulled it off after three rounds.
james colossus thompson
Yeah, I watched it not long ago and I thought, just edged it.
Just edged it.
It was close.
joe rogan
Those are satisfying, aren't they?
james colossus thompson
Well, I mean, it went to plan.
I stopped his takedowns.
My cardio was much better.
If he did take me then, I got right back up.
I felt good.
But what it let me down was the stand-up.
My stand-up was too slow.
He was beating me.
I was meant to then finish him off with the stand-up.
But he was too quick.
He was beating me to the punch.
And I thought, right, fuck it.
I'm going to have to get him to the cage and make it just messy.
Just keep him here because he was tired.
He didn't want to move.
So keep him there fucking.
It was good where I managed to do what I wanted to do, but I didn't capitalize.
joe rogan
That guy is a weird example of a physical specimen.
He's so muscular.
You look at him, you go, how could that guy keep his cardio?
Yeah, he seems like a guy who probably should be like a 205-er, right?
james colossus thompson
Yeah, he's too big for his fame.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's got so much meat on him, but he's so impressive looking, you know, because of that.
james colossus thompson
It is.
joe rogan
It used to be at a time, you know, you look at a guy who was built like that, and you go, well, that guy will probably kick a lot of ass.
But now you know, like, that guy's handicapped almost.
james colossus thompson
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, it is.
I mean, when you're too big, it's like when I fought Podrinowski, there's so many gaps.
joe rogan
Yeah.
james colossus thompson
You know, I remember he was statically very strong, so he got me, you know, belly to belly.
He suplexed me over.
I landed, and he was on top of me, and I fought my underhook, and he was just there.
There was such a big gap because he couldn't close his arms.
joe rogan
Well, also, he's not aware.
I mean, his mixed martial arts training was very limited.
I watched him hit the pads and everything.
It was comical.
It's like, well, this guy never punched in his life, and they teach him how to punch now.
james colossus thompson
But that solves his mindset.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's an animal.
He's a fucking animal.
james colossus thompson
The fact he fought, you know, when I was talking earlier about You know, six weeks and I ain't got a big ego but I've got more of an ego than, obviously, I realized.
Do you know what I mean?
unidentified
Right.
james colossus thompson
Because Pudrinowski thinks for, you know, he jumps into Tim Sylvia.
joe rogan
Yeah, Tim Sylvia.
james colossus thompson
It's a worst fight ever!
joe rogan
Ever!
unidentified
Ever!
james colossus thompson
He's so tall, so rangy.
joe rogan
Yeah, very dangerous guy.
unidentified
Do you know what I mean?
joe rogan
It's a worst fight ever.
And motivated, because he just lost to Ray Mercer.
Yeah.
So he wanted, you know, that was an embarrassing loss to him.
unidentified
It was.
james colossus thompson
It was.
joe rogan
Yeah, so he wanted to put a good mark on his ledger, and Pudrinowski was a perfect one.
Yeah.
He just ate Pujanowski alive.
It was like the body beautiful versus a guy with not the greatest genetics in the world.
Not the greatest genetics kicked the fucking shit out of that body beautiful.
james colossus thompson
Easy.
No problem.
joe rogan
It was fascinating to see how willing that guy is right away to fight high level guys.
james colossus thompson
But he's going backwards.
He started off Like that.
And then after the second loss to me, which was, well, it wasn't a loss to me.
He claimed to have won the fight and then they reversed the decision the next day.
joe rogan
Yeah, I saw that.
james colossus thompson
Well, that...
joe rogan
That's some fuckery right there, huh?
Is that in Poland?
james colossus thompson
Yeah.
Fucking hell.
Do you know what it is?
Do you know why it always happens to me?
It always fucking happens to me because I'm the guy who's managed to be noctate.
I'm like the guy who's had a few.
I'm semi-legitimate, so I'm like, people are like, oh, you know, he's got, you know, he's had a few wins, he's not a complete bomb.
So they put me up there.
I love the part, I'll come to fight, but I'm beatable.
So then, you know, their guy who's ready to take the next level, he's thinking he's beating Tim Sylvia, don't forget.
I think he'll fucking fuck Thompson up.
But it didn't quite go like that.
joe rogan
Yeah, I think also you've got to think the guy became this amazing powerlifting champion, this strongman champion because he has this undeniable belief in himself.
So he probably just thinks he doesn't give a fuck.
So now he keeps running into reality.
Yes, yes, yes.
A guy like that needs a real legit coach, like a Greg Jackson or a Matt Hume.
Someone's going to sit him down and go, listen.
If there's only one way we're gonna do this and do it right, we're gonna keep your brain, okay?
And that's you actually learn how to fight, and then you fight.
james colossus thompson
I think he is determined.
He seems like he's getting smaller.
joe rogan
He's getting smaller as well, right?
james colossus thompson
Yeah, he's getting better.
I think he's work ethic and, you know, to be the strongest man, you know what I mean?
So I think that part I give him credit for, but he's a fucking prick.
He's a prick.
joe rogan
Is he really?
james colossus thompson
Oh, he's a prick.
He's a prick.
joe rogan
He's not a nice guy.
james colossus thompson
No, he's not a nice guy.
Do you know when I was at KSW, All the staff.
I talk to everyone.
Everyone's really nice.
Do you know when someone grabs your hand?
joe rogan
When someone grabs your hand?
james colossus thompson
Yeah, to shake it.
joe rogan
And they do that finger thing?
james colossus thompson
No, no, no.
And they go, and they pop up.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, with the second arm.
Why do they do that with the second arm?
james colossus thompson
To reinforce.
joe rogan
Yeah, don't you lower your base?
This motherfucker's going to judo me!
james colossus thompson
Fucking hell, Joe.
unidentified
It's a hand hug.
joe rogan
You know what I do?
I don't mind it as long as it's a touch.
It's a touch with the other arm.
When you grab my wrist, especially if you go with one of those Jean LaBelle finger lock type situations.
james colossus thompson
I don't think they're thinking of it like that.
joe rogan
You pinch it down with three fingers and you've really got to...
He might be trying to take it back, son.
james colossus thompson
I don't think they've fucking read the Gene LaBelle fucking handbook anymore.
joe rogan
He should.
It's a great handbook.
james colossus thompson
If you want to fucking kill someone with a walking stick.
joe rogan
There's another weird thing that dudes will do where they'll hold on to your knee while they're telling you something.
What the fuck is that?
When you're sitting down?
When you're sitting down in some easy chairs next to each other?
Older dudes will do it.
When they have something important to tell you.
brian redban
No.
joe rogan
Bobby, I need to suck your dick right now.
No, they have something important to tell you.
And they want you to really listen.
They will even put a hand, not even a full claw, but to let you know that if you wanted to, they could make this shit uncomfortable.
They'll hold on to your leg and they'll tell you some shit about the government.
brian redban
I don't have this happen to me.
joe rogan
You know, talk to old dudes.
I talk to old dudes that want to show me that they know shit.
james colossus thompson
The worst one for me, they say I've got this black eye.
The worst one for me is people grabbing your head when they're pissed and they come up and they grab the back of your head and then start pulling you in.
brian redban
They want to talk to you almost.
james colossus thompson
Not letting you get away.
Taking the choice away.
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Why do people do that when they want to talk to you?
Hold on to you.
james colossus thompson
It's so important.
Because it's so important what they're going to say.
joe rogan
Dan Henderson in the back of your head and shit.
james colossus thompson
You know, when someone does that to me, Well, we'd be training as well.
When someone does that to me, it's like, oh, fuck.
joe rogan
So that's how you got that black eye?
james colossus thompson
Yeah.
joe rogan
What happened?
james colossus thompson
Well, I work at, well, he's my mate, but I go to his club and I do security with just normal clothes.
I have a drink with him.
I do whatever I fucking want.
I drink.
joe rogan
So you do security, but you're also like a patron?
james colossus thompson
I'm his mate.
I'm his mate.
joe rogan
So you just do it to hang out with him?
james colossus thompson
Yeah, but I told him you don't even have to pay me.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
james colossus thompson
I see what you're saying.
joe rogan
He's your boy, so you go there and you hang out with him.
You're security just by existing.
There you go.
james colossus thompson
So then...
What am I saying?
joe rogan
I don't know.
james colossus thompson
No, I haven't got to it yet.
That's right.
It's going to be good, though.
So, if I can remember.
So, we're there, and...
Oh, someone punches the bathroom.
joe rogan
How you got your black eye.
james colossus thompson
Yeah, yeah.
Someone punches the bathroom and floods it.
joe rogan
They punch the bathroom and flooded it?
james colossus thompson
They punch the fucking container with the water in or something.
joe rogan
Oh, you guys have like one of them old school above the toilet containers of water that you can punch?
james colossus thompson
Yeah.
joe rogan
Wow, that's hilarious.
james colossus thompson
It flooded.
So I went to look for the guy who did it.
joe rogan
Right.
james colossus thompson
So I said, oh, I'll have a look.
And he said, white t-shirt, there, there.
So I'm on the way down the dance floor, and this girl steps on my toe.
She steps on my toe and she wobbles a bit, so I catch her under the arm, securely, safe.
And she goes, oh yeah.
She said something to me, and then this bloke came out of nowhere, cut a fucking peacock in it, and getting right in my face.
joe rogan
Peacock in it means he was like spreading out his feathers.
james colossus thompson
Yeah, he was letting me know.
joe rogan
Talking shit.
james colossus thompson
Yeah, I was like talking to his missus who just happened to look like this skinny fucking...
She looked alright from the back, but turned around her face was hollow.
She had fucking loads of makeup.
joe rogan
Are you saying she's on meth as well?
This makes the story better.
It's a methed out couple.
james colossus thompson
Yeah, yeah.
Needles in the hand.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
james colossus thompson
Just fucking...
joe rogan
Needles falling out of her panties.
james colossus thompson
Oh, stop it.
Um...
And the guy grabbed, he started saying, I said something to him, and he was taking my kind of kindness, me being okay, and I don't want to fight, I have no reason to, so mine being alright, and he was taking it as a weakness, and I can see it happening, and it's almost like I know what's going to happen, it's almost like I shouldn't do it, and I can just say, fuck off, prick, and just kill it dead there, but I don't, and he went like that, and then he did that, and I pushed his hand off, and he fucking hit me, fucking left-hooked me.
brian redban
Did you hit him back?
joe rogan
Did you break his arm?
james colossus thompson
Did you kill him?
unidentified
Yeah, that's a big mistake.
joe rogan
When you punch a dude like you, and then he's still there, and now you're mad, like, damn it.
brian redban
Are you ticklish?
james colossus thompson
No.
joe rogan
You are.
brian redban
You're really, really ticklish.
joe rogan
Look at the way his head moved.
Don't do it, Brian.
He'll break this whole fucking table.
Brian, sit the fuck down.
You better not tickle him, you motherfucker.
That guy will kill you.
james colossus thompson
He's really fragile.
Isn't he getting confident?
joe rogan
He's not getting confident.
He's getting gay.
He's trying to lure you into his fucking spiderweb.
Spiderweb of issues.
Yeah, give me one of them too, brother.
That stuff's great.
Thanks to C2O Coconut Water for sending us all this delicious.
If you ever have a chance, if you're looking for coconut water to buy, they are not created equal.
You want to make sure you get coconut water that's from these Thai coconuts.
That's C2O. That's Brian and fucking Amy.
Amy and Brian's?
Is that what it is?
Yeah.
Amy and Brian's is the same.
Same type.
Hey!
They're tickling each other.
This is dangerous, Brian.
He wouldn't even mean to kill you, Brian.
It would just be an accidental.
james colossus thompson
I'd love him and hugging and going on my own.
It'd be like Lenny with the Macy's.
You know what?
He's killed another one by smoking it.
joe rogan
Oh, poor Brian.
james colossus thompson
I would never kill you, Brian.
joe rogan
He would hug you and everything would just leak out of your asshole.
Like a water bag.
Splotch.
james colossus thompson
I would kill you with love and affection.
joe rogan
His ass would just open up.
Just rip.
The whole innards just plonk.
Ribcage.
Everything.
No one's even going to figure out how Ribcage got through his asshole.
It's going to go right through.
Intact.
It's gonna come out and roll across the floor.
james colossus thompson
See what happens when you get tickling into this.
brian redban
It's something that I've always thought of because I'm extremely ticklish.
And if I was a fighter, I think if I was in some crazy jiu-jitsu thing, that if the guy just started tickling me, I would freak the fuck out.
james colossus thompson
No, not when you're in the moment and you're not thinking about it.
joe rogan
Because while you're tickling the guy, the guy's on top of you punching you in the face.
And you're going to stop tickling.
Part of tickling, like the whole thing is like someone's got power over you.
And you're like, stop it!
You're making me feel things I don't want to feel!
unidentified
Stop it!
joe rogan
You know, but it doesn't hurt.
It just feels weird.
james colossus thompson
You're not tickling when you tickle for yourself.
joe rogan
Not at all.
james colossus thompson
So you don't go there.
unidentified
That makes sense.
joe rogan
You make the connection between the impact of the fingers.
But when someone else is controlling, you don't know what kind of ride you're going on.
And all that shit is actually probably evolutionary, beneficial to keep spiders off of us.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Oh, fucking hell.
It's like little things that are moving on you.
You're like, what the fuck is that?
That's what that is.
It's like extra sensory for when spiders and shit would crawl into your fucking sleeping bag.
You know, I mean, that's probably what being ticklish is all about.
james colossus thompson
Did you have a sleeping bag back in the day?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, of course.
brian redban
I have one right now.
joe rogan
I have one right now.
Brian always has a rescue pack in his car.
james colossus thompson
A rescue pack?
joe rogan
Well, he's ready for this.
brian redban
When Jack strangles me to sleep.
joe rogan
He's worried about the earthquake, and so he has a full emergency set up in the back of his car, including ecstasy.
james colossus thompson
Including, like, plenty of molly.
You've got a fucking porn star.
brian redban
No, there's none in the trunk where I cleaned it out last night.
joe rogan
That's one of those ones you say it and you're like, damn.
It seemed like it was there.
I took a chance.
I threw it out there.
So you got two big wins in a row, right?
With Bob Sapp.
Was Bob Sapp in the same?
james colossus thompson
No, it's SFO. Oh, that's right.
Oh, yeah, so that was the same one as Bobby Lashley.
I've had three big wins, and the fourth, which I classed as a win because it was a bollocks Pochinovsky one.
joe rogan
Yeah, that was totally horseshit.
But the Super Fight League is in India.
Are you enjoying that over there?
james colossus thompson
No, I'm not with them anymore.
joe rogan
You're not with them anymore?
unidentified
No, no, no.
james colossus thompson
What happened?
They said to me, we can get you a fight.
We want you to fight, what's his face?
Todd Duffy.
And I was like, okay.
And they were like, we want to cut half your money.
I was like, well.
And then we wanted to add you a 20% tax, Indian tax.
joe rogan
So they changed how they do business with you?
Yes.
They didn't charge Indian tax before that?
james colossus thompson
10%.
joe rogan
Are they outsourcing?
Is that what's going on?
They're outsourcing heavyweights?
India's outsourcing as well.
We outsource to India.
They outsource heavyweights.
james colossus thompson
No, they just...
I think a guy has a lot of money and they see MMA and think, I'd like to do that.
India don't have it.
I like it.
And then the goal to do it And it's not quite as simple as that.
joe rogan
They start bleeding money.
james colossus thompson
Well, the people don't know what the fuck it is.
And then you have people like me and Bob Sapp there.
And it's like, you know, it's wrestling.
joe rogan
Right.
james colossus thompson
Because we both look like...
And they both watch through this crazy thing at the fucking press conference.
We're coming to get you.
And he's like, ah, and then the guy's in the middle.
The Bollywood guy.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Right.
So it looks like bullshit.
And then when Bob Sapp got injured, it really looked like bullshit, right?
james colossus thompson
Yeah, I'm trying to have a thought about that.
But yeah, but the first fight...
It's a bit like the first ever UFC. The fucking tooth comes out.
Someone gets fucking smacked.
Oh, it's real.
It was like that.
Like this.
A guy comes out.
I can't remember.
Professor X. Yeah.
Outbores someone.
Do you know what I mean?
Straight away.
joe rogan
So they had some good fights, but is it that the guy's running out of cash?
It's costing a lot of money to do this?
james colossus thompson
No, I don't think he's running out of cash.
I actually think he don't like...
Losing it.
joe rogan
Oh, so he's losing it, so he's trying to minimize the amount he's losing.
james colossus thompson
Yes, basically, yes.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's not easy to fucking put together a gigantic organization.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
A lot of people don't realize that the UFC was $44 million in the hole before it started to turn around and become profitable.
That all became because of the Ultimate Fighter.
They bankrolled that show.
They essentially put together that show, produced it, and then bought time on Spike to air it.
It's really a crazy, crazy fucking gamble, but one that turned out incredibly well.
To get that level of recognition for your organization, you've got to have something like Viacom behind you, like what Bellator is doing.
You've got to have something big behind you.
You have to have a push where they have, okay, look, we have determined that we have X amount of talent.
We have this amount of budget.
We can go after new talent.
We can offer people a commensurate cash reward for wins that you would get in the UFC.
We can match their money.
So let's get crazy here.
Let's see what we can do.
But you have to be willing to lose a lot of fucking money to do that.
Because until they start doing pay-per-views, man, until they start doing pay-per-views, where's all that money coming from?
You're going to have some world championship fights?
james colossus thompson
Well, Indians aren't the most athletic of people either.
joe rogan
They're not?
Well, they were great wrestlers at one point in time.
james colossus thompson
Yeah, the wrestling as a sport, but the Indian physique as a whole...
joe rogan
Not so good?
What about the women, though?
Nothing?
Not into it?
james colossus thompson
The Bollywood ones have got the kind of thing where they all want to be English.
joe rogan
Right.
james colossus thompson
Do you know what I mean?
So get as white as they can be.
Do like the Japanese or the Chinese.
joe rogan
I've seen a few hot Indian porn stars.
james colossus thompson
Yeah, I mean, it's hot, everyone.
joe rogan
That's true.
james colossus thompson
Do you know what I mean?
joe rogan
It really is, right?
But on the average, not so much.
james colossus thompson
No, India is so fucking poor.
The women are thinking about fucking eating.
Do you know what I mean?
Never mind.
joe rogan
It's that poor, huh?
james colossus thompson
When I went, first time doing a press conference, I could not fucking believe it.
I mean, you see it, but there was chaos.
Do you know what you were saying earlier?
Like, over here, this and that, different countries.
joe rogan
Different world.
james colossus thompson
Fucking India.
I mean, I've been to a few places, but that...
I was with my missus, Malene, and she says to us, I'm surprised we haven't...
There's kids, like a little kid in the middle of the road, eating a banana.
Just sat there, and it was busy as fuck, and the...
The thing what fucking separates the road was about that much, and this little kid was eating a banana, just chilled out in the sun, and the cars are going past everything.
joe rogan
Wow.
james colossus thompson
And I was like...
joe rogan
So the kid's just on a strip of the road and he's eating a banana and no one gives a fuck.
james colossus thompson
No one gives a fuck.
And I was like, and then Grant says to us, fucking, I'm surprised you haven't seen any wild dogs or anything like that.
And then I literally turned my head and there's this massive big fucking bull.
joe rogan
A bull?
james colossus thompson
Yeah, just fuck it.
I think it was a bull walking down the road.
And I was like, fuck.
This is mad.
Just chaos.
And no one walks on the road.
No one walks on the pavement.
Everyone walks on the fucking road.
joe rogan
And a bull was just walking down the street?
james colossus thompson
Yeah.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
james colossus thompson
Just fucking...
Watch out for the kid!
unidentified
A fucking bull and a kid on the same street.
james colossus thompson
Yeah.
And it's just madness everywhere.
Just madness everywhere.
And you're like...
And then when we went to our hotel...
joe rogan
It's the apocalypse.
I mean, if that came to England, it would be the apocalypse, right?
If that came to London, that would be the apocalypse.
james colossus thompson
That would be fucking game over.
joe rogan
But it is the apocalypse, right?
It's just there.
james colossus thompson
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's just you can go visit the apocalypse.
james colossus thompson
They were all fucking on the beach...
Going in the water with the whole clothes on.
joe rogan
Wow.
james colossus thompson
Which, I know that's only a little thing, but it just seems so...
No one was sunbathing.
No one was lying on the beach.
Everyone was just standing on the beach and in the water with the whole clothes on.
And I thought, are they washing the clothes?
I don't know.
I fucking don't know.
joe rogan
Wow.
james colossus thompson
What the fuck?
But some of India's...
joe rogan
They have a tiger problem, too.
james colossus thompson
Right there.
joe rogan
Some parts.
I mean, India's huge, but...
The Sundarbans have a real tiger problem.
Over the last 200 years, I think 300,000 people have been killed there.
Some insane number like that.
They have a real problem.
They have brackish water, where it means the water is not fresh and it's not salt.
It's a combination.
It's not quite the salinity of sea water, but it's more salty than regular fresh water.
And because of that, the tigers have nothing else to drink, and they drink that shit and they get really agitated.
And they get really aggressive.
james colossus thompson
They don't die.
joe rogan
Well, they die.
I mean, what, they become monsters?
What are you saying?
They drink the salt water.
It doesn't work that way, dude.
Imagine how all you do is add salt to tigers and live forever.
You'd be fucked.
No, they get...
It's just only in theory.
That's why they're so aggressive.
But also, the theory is that the typhoons come, and I guess these crazy storms that come, a lot of people die.
A lot of people that are near the water wind up in the water.
So the tigers wind up eating the bodies that wash down the shore.
And there's so many of them in the water, apparently, a bunch of tigers will jump in and they have no other meat.
They'll just eat these bodies.
They don't mind doing that.
So then they develop a taste for human flesh.
So if the monsoons come or typhoons or whatever they are and kill a bunch of villagers and a few of them wind up in the water and tigers eat them, those tigers now know what people taste like and they go looking for it.
That's where shit gets spooky.
james colossus thompson
What struck me about India, like, when I went to hospital, I was there for an extra week because obviously I was having my face.
joe rogan
What happened when the guy, this is from when the guy sucker punched you?
james colossus thompson
No, no, this is from Bobby Lashley.
Yeah, he broke my orbital.
joe rogan
He broke your orbital?
james colossus thompson
Yeah, he broke my orbital.
joe rogan
What happens when you have an orbital break?
james colossus thompson
They put a mesh, apparently these are collapsible, and they're obviously designed to be there, the eye drops down, it protects your eyes.
So it broke, and they put a guard in there, like a titanium guard, and now it's as fucking good as new.
joe rogan
So they put a titanium guard in your face?
james colossus thompson
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Do you think dudes will ever get titanium guards put in their face without it breaking, just to protect it, make sure you don't get broken orbitals?
james colossus thompson
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, it would work, right?
james colossus thompson
Well, I don't know, because it's meant to be collapsible.
So that's what I said to the doctor.
I said to him, oh, it's meant to be collapsible.
And he says, yeah, I said, with the titanium plate, it won't be collapsible.
And he said, no, no, it won't.
I said, so...
If it won't collapse, does that mean my eye's in more danger?
And he said, well, I wouldn't fight if I was you.
joe rogan
Whoa.
Well, he wouldn't fight if he was you anyway.
james colossus thompson
Yeah, that's what I thought.
What a fucking stupid thing to say.
joe rogan
That's a stupid thing to say.
unidentified
Yeah, it is.
joe rogan
If you were, if you was you, you would fight.
james colossus thompson
No, no.
So I said to him, is it safe?
And he said, if I was you, I wouldn't fight.
And I thought, that's not an answer.
joe rogan
First of all, he's being honest, because he's not a fighter.
He's a doctor.
james colossus thompson
Yeah, but I don't need his opinion on fucking everything.
joe rogan
I had a meniscus surgery, and the lady was telling me never to do jiu-jitsu again.
You need to stop.
It's just a meniscus surgery.
What are you talking about?
You need to stop.
You're going to be crippled by the time you get old.
Your knees won't work.
You're like, whoa.
james colossus thompson
I have so many arguments with doctors about steroids and things like that.
Because they don't know.
joe rogan
Try to get prescriptions and they say, get the fuck out of here.
james colossus thompson
Fill in my bag.
joe rogan
Just go to Mexico, man.
It's super easy.
james colossus thompson
No, no.
But so many arguments, because I realize they don't actually, they see a lot of the negative effects and they don't actually know what they're talking about.
joe rogan
Well, there's an issue with a lot of doctors when it comes to two areas and a big one is nutrition.
There's a real issue with a lot of doctors that are really not that much more informed than the lay person when it comes to nutrition.
If you're the average person that reads an article or two here and there about the benefits of vitamin C or alpha-lipoic acid or whatever the fuck you read about, you probably know as much as your average general practitioner.
They don't really know that much about nutrition, on average.
Of course there's exceptions to the rule.
And when you're dealing with something like nutrition, which is, you know, an integral part of your health in the first place, it's a weird thing when the doctors are only, like, their idea of wellness is only taking care of you after you're broken.
It's not, like, completely stopping all this shit from happening in the first place.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And, like, stepping in and giving you nutrition and making sure you don't...
james colossus thompson
It's never the long game, is it?
unidentified
Yeah.
james colossus thompson
It's also the fix-up.
joe rogan
But then again, they have to understand that the body is a finite proposition.
And if a man wants to be a fighter, then you've got to patch him back up and send him out there.
It's his decisions.
james colossus thompson
Yeah, I think...
joe rogan
I wouldn't fight it if I was you.
But he's not you.
james colossus thompson
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, you wouldn't be a doctor if you were him.
james colossus thompson
And as he went off, I was like, I won!
Oh, never mind.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Is there a point where you think, if you look at your career, if you look at your future, where you say, well, if I get to this point, I'm done?
james colossus thompson
No.
joe rogan
No?
You just can do it until you enjoy it?
james colossus thompson
Well, I stopped enjoying it for four years.
I fucking hated it.
joe rogan
For four years?
james colossus thompson
Four or five years.
When I started gambling.
unidentified
Oh.
james colossus thompson
And then I wouldn't admit I hated it.
I'd have like little spells where I would be like...
I can't do it anymore.
I don't want to...
The pressure, the fucking headfuck of it all, the this, and then when I get my money, I'm only gambling it all.
I just...
You know what I mean?
Right.
I can't do it anymore, and I can't keep bringing myself back up, like Kimbo was meant to be a big comeback.
Pochneroski, you know, keep it going.
Just, you know, Butterbean, that bollock.
Just a lot of bad decisions.
And...
By me as well.
But not just bad decisions.
joe rogan
Bad results?
james colossus thompson
Well, bad results.
Some caused by me and some just bad decisions.
Do you know what I mean?
joe rogan
The Kimba fight was seen by how many people?
There was a huge audience, right?
james colossus thompson
Eight million people, I think.
Six or eight, I can't remember.
joe rogan
And most people, what they remember is that you came into the cage with a fucking mouse living in your ear.
You had like a whole mouse family living in your ear.
brian redban
And it blew up, right?
joe rogan
It popped in the middle of the fight and started leaking.
brian redban
That was so hard to watch.
joe rogan
That was the most fucked up ear ever seen on national TV. No one had a more fucked up ear ever.
james colossus thompson
My ear's more famous than me.
I'm jealous of it.
I'm jealous of my ear.
Is that right?
unidentified
People talk about that fight.
joe rogan
Remember that guy that fought Kimbo with a crazy fucking ear?
Oh shit.
james colossus thompson
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Colossus, yes.
james colossus thompson
I'm not going to be remembered for that though.
joe rogan
For that?
james colossus thompson
No.
joe rogan
Well, you'll be remembered for your entire career, sure.
james colossus thompson
No, what I'm saying is, at the moment...
joe rogan
People do remember that.
james colossus thompson
Yeah, at the moment, people would say, I'm the Kimbo.
joe rogan
You know what I remember?
I remember you had Kimbo in side control and they stood you up.
james colossus thompson
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
You know, I remember that, right?
james colossus thompson
Nobody ever points that out.
Yeah, I put that out.
I mean, I take a lot more whacks before that changes the fucking pace of a fight.
unidentified
The fuck yeah, it does.
joe rogan
You don't stand a guy up when a guy works hard.
james colossus thompson
And I just got there.
joe rogan
Uh-huh, yeah.
Elite XC was a corrupt organization.
Corrupt.
They changed the rules.
They told guys to stand up and bang.
They told guys to stand up and bang.
They gave them instructions and they made the referee stand guys up much earlier.
Big Country was fighting Andrei Oloski.
And had him in a fucking side control position, working a Kimura, and they stood him back up.
I'm like, you gotta be fucking kidding me.
Jake Shields, they did that same shit when he was fighting Paul Semtex, when he was fighting Paul Daly.
Same shit.
They try to stand him up early, but Jake just attack, attack, attack, and got him in an armbar.
He just went...
Jake's a high-level black belt, so he just went after it really quickly.
But you had Kimbo in fucking side control.
You worked to get it.
You got it.
You were in a dominant position.
He was tired, and they stood you back up.
james colossus thompson
Those dirty bitches.
Gary Shaw said, we did a radio interview where everyone's on the other line, and I just finished training, so I'm on the phone.
No one was asking me fucking any questions.
And I thought, yeah, I'm just the guy for Kimball to beat.
And then someone asked Gary Shaw a question and they said, this is how he was holding the phone.
They asked Gary Shaw the question.
I like that.
I did emphasis there, just in case you couldn't visualise it.
They said to him, what would you do if James Thompson won?
And he said, I'd hang myself.
unidentified
And I thought, wow.
joe rogan
That's the dumbest motherfucker in the history of MMA productions.
The idea that you have one guy that's the most important thing and bank everything on him winning is so stupid.
james colossus thompson
All eggs completely in one basket.
joe rogan
Because if you kicked that guy's ass, it would have been awesome.
If they left you inside control, it would have been awesome.
Just like it was awesome for him when he won.
It would have been awesome for you.
Then, you know, you've got to let the guy who's supposed to win, win.
When you're trying to just be the most marketable, you're looking for the most marketable guy, you're never going to have a legit organization.
His whole organization was essentially a corrupt organization.
That's what that is.
james colossus thompson
Well, I'm writing a book at the moment.
The blogs have gone so well.
I thought to myself, I've got a fucking...
I started looking back at the different stories because I did the Fedor drinking one and everyone loved it and a few more.
So I started thinking I've got fucking...
joe rogan
That Elite XC story is a very important story for martial arts because that made me angry.
I was watching that at home and I was angry.
I was like, this is crazy.
And I love Kimbo.
I think he's an awesome guy.
He's a great character.
I like watching him fight.
He won a boxing match recently.
He's been winning a lot of boxing matches.
I love that dude.
It's not that I wanted him to win or you to win, but I wanted fairness.
And you worked hard to get to that position and you were in a dominant position.
They stood you back up and you were fucking tired.
And you got cracked.
And they did the same thing with Big Country.
When Big Country had Arlovski down, he was working for a fucking Kimura, and they stood him up.
I'm like, are you crazy?
james colossus thompson
It was quite ironic that I watched Big Country, and he was almost in exactly the same position as me when he beat Kimbo.
And I thought, oh, you know, he's kind of not mentioned or not.
joe rogan
It's very close to the same position.
I mean, the only difference is he had a full mounted crucifix on him.
james colossus thompson
Yeah, that's right.
joe rogan
You know, which I'm sure you could have worked towards.
You had him on his back.
He was only going to get more tired.
There was a couple minutes to go, right?
james colossus thompson
The thing with that fight is not that I think they should have stopped the fight there because he came back and he had me rocked in the third round.
unidentified
He did.
james colossus thompson
He fucking hurt them punches.
And I was.
I was rocked.
So it's not that.
But they should have let...
He might have knocked me out.
I don't know.
He might have knocked me out.
I might have took him down.
Right.
I don't know who would have won.
That's the fucking point of the fight.
You've got to let the fight conclude.
He could have knocked me out.
But one more takedown and he was mine.
joe rogan
Well, you take such a good shot and you take so many shots that sometimes people don't know what the fuck to do.
And I think a fight like that, like you took some bombs from Kimbo and you were still there.
And it's like the referee is like, man, do I rescue this fucking guy?
It's a weird judgment call and it's...
Very important to have the right referee in a situation like that.
A guy like Herb Dean, he'll let you fight.
He'll let you fight, but he will save you if he knows you're fucked.
I think there's a lot of fights where the referee errs on the side of caution and protects the fighter.
In a case like yours, you feel like you were denied an opportunity because of that, right?
james colossus thompson
Yeah, and what I was saying before, I started vambling, but I was backstage, and it had just happened, and Gary Shaw's son, that fucking...
joe rogan
Yeah, big kid?
Scala, is that what they call him?
james colossus thompson
Yeah, Scala.
joe rogan
Seems like a nice guy.
james colossus thompson
With a fucking...
What's that?
Dollar sign?
Fucking...
joe rogan
Yeah.
Is it a dollar sign chain?
Oh, the S is scholar.
james colossus thompson
Yeah, it's clever.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, he grew up with a rich dad.
james colossus thompson
And he's bald.
joe rogan
It's an interesting way to live your life.
james colossus thompson
But he came up to me and he said, you've got to go to the hospital.
You've got to go to the hospital now.
joe rogan
You've got to go to the hospital?
james colossus thompson
Yeah.
And I turned to him and I said, yeah.
He said, yeah, right.
But he'd turned away, or, you know, because there was a lot going on.
So he didn't hear me.
And then he turned back and went, you have to go to the hospital now.
I'm taking you now.
And I went, You really want me to go to the hospital.
joe rogan
Right.
james colossus thompson
Too much.
So then I went to the press conference instead.
And as I walked into the press conference, Gary Shaw was going, we've just had to take James Thompson to the hospital, the emergency room.
He has breathing, and I'm there.
And someone caught into it, and I was drinking a drink.
You know what I mean?
And I think, that sums it up, really.
That sums it up.
joe rogan
They're corrupt.
james colossus thompson
More than words.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a corrupt organization.
That's horseshit.
They're pretending you were hurt more than you were to pump Kimbo up.
james colossus thompson
Yeah.
joe rogan
Wow, that's interesting.
james colossus thompson
Yeah.
joe rogan
Look at that stupid organization that was.
You know, I don't make predictions, man.
I very rarely make predictions.
But one of the predictions that I made was when Elite XC mixed Seth Patricelli up with Kimbo.
james colossus thompson
Okay.
joe rogan
I'm like, well, come on.
Seth Petrosili's been around a long time.
He's a seriously seasoned guy.
I'm like, this is a terrible fight.
james colossus thompson
Heavy hands.
joe rogan
Heavy hands, and he's very aggressive, especially in the first round.
Like, he's going to come after you, man.
You know, he's had a bunch of injuries, and...
He's had a long career.
He's fought a long time.
But in that fight, I was like, boy, I see that as a mismatch.
That's a bad fight for Kimbo.
james colossus thompson
Yeah, last minute.
joe rogan
They're so stupid, the way they designed that organization around one guy who was basically a really exciting prospect.
He was a really fun guy.
He had a cool look.
I'm glad that he made some money.
I'm glad that he did well.
But that you would bank it all on this one guy based on...
No, you could have him fight other guys too and pump them up too.
james colossus thompson
Yeah, of course.
And it's MMA. It's the most unpredictable sport ever.
joe rogan
And now he's fighting boxers and, you know, I mean, he's got a bunch of knee problems as well.
james colossus thompson
Yeah, he doesn't...
I mean, he looks up.
I mean, the guy he fought...
I thought the guy was going to win in the end.
I mean, Kimball did well to get the body shot and finish him.
joe rogan
Oh, the last boxer?
Yeah, that guy seemed a bit out of shape.
But he was dangerous, man!
james colossus thompson
He was throwing him, and they were both gassed in the first round.
They were both fucked for that second round.
joe rogan
Well, he teed off on Kimbo one combination, and Timbo stiffened up.
james colossus thompson
Kimbo stiffened up.
joe rogan
He got tagged for three or four clean ones.
james colossus thompson
Two carried away.
He went for it too, and Kimbo did well and got that and just finished it.
joe rogan
Well, Kimbo recovered really nice in that fight.
That was impressive.
It was obvious that he's in shape.
That was a crazy fight.
He's an exciting guy.
It's not that I didn't want him to win or wanted you to win, but when they stood you guys up, I was like, you guys are ruining the sport because that's not the sport.
james colossus thompson
That's what it's about.
Like you say, you don't know the individual people.
joe rogan
The arrogance of promoters, man.
The arrogance of those boxing guys that think that they could just come in and just sort of work it the way they've worked boxing.
It shows you how they've worked boxing, how they build up contenders, and they're not concerned as much about what you can do as they are about how much money they can make off you.
So it's not about we need to test him against some strong competition.
No, it's about let's get him some setup fights and let's avoid that guy because that guy will exploit him.
james colossus thompson
As long as possible.
joe rogan
Yeah, keep it going as long as possible.
Promote it all yourself.
Do it all internally.
This is Don King's fighter.
I'm Don King, the promoter.
And you get it to a point where the guy's a champion, and then you fucking reek in the cash while avoiding the dangerous guy that nobody knows that will knock him out.
It's a fucking Rocky movie, Colossus.
james colossus thompson
You can give the money.
The money you do make, you put to good use because you fund Sark's rap career.
joe rogan
Yes.
Whose rap career?
james colossus thompson
His sons.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, Scala?
james colossus thompson
Scala, sorry, Scala.
joe rogan
You got a rap career?
Is he a good rapper?
james colossus thompson
Oh, mate.
I'm surprised you haven't heard it.
joe rogan
I just think it's very lucky.
We're all very lucky that that organization doesn't operate the way it did.
james colossus thompson
Have you not seen his video?
joe rogan
No.
There's a real rap video?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I want to make fun of the guy.
He's a young guy.
Look, he grew up with a wacky dude for a dad.
I mean, if that's your dad, what the fuck?
I'd be a douchebag too if that was my dad.
How the fuck am I going to turn out?
This is my role model here.
james colossus thompson
Well, yeah.
I mean, you don't have to turn out.
He's a young guy, right?
Yeah, of course.
I mean, my mom had a terrible upbringing.
She's the best ever.
Do you know what I mean?
Sometimes it works the opposite.
It's hard to say, isn't it?
I know what you mean.
Playing the odds, generally...
joe rogan
If Gary Shaw's your dad.
james colossus thompson
Yeah, I'm going to be an asshole.
Generally, I am.
joe rogan
Did you harbor resentment from them after that, when you knew that they had stood their fight up like that?
james colossus thompson
I did.
I did, but I used that in a wrong way.
In a wrong way?
That stupid blockhead, that damn Murgliotta, he fucked it up for my mate Moss.
He was reffing him, and Crocott poked Moss in the eye.
Moss went out.
joe rogan
Who was it?
james colossus thompson
Musa El-Turk.
joe rogan
Oh, Mustafa.
Yeah, Mustafa El-Turk.
james colossus thompson
He got poked in the eye by Krokop.
And then he didn't stop the fight.
And I was like, you fucking prick.
You know...
joe rogan
Murgliad is the same one that stood you up with Kimbo.
james colossus thompson
Yeah, it's the same one with all the other friends.
joe rogan
But they instructed them all to do that, right?
Didn't they instruct the referees to do that?
james colossus thompson
I don't know.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a really tricky situation.
That's where there's a very famous clip of Dana White yelling at the camera going, that's fucking illegal.
Because that kind of shit can alter the course of a fight.
And one of the reasons why it's illegal is because people bet on fights.
So you're essentially, for Vegas it's legal, okay?
So you're fixing that fight.
If you're telling a guy that he has to go to the ground, or you're telling a guy that he has to stand up, you're altering what he would or wouldn't have done independently on his own.
You're essentially fixing the fight.
james colossus thompson
Oh yeah, you're putting out.
joe rogan
Well, even if you're wrong, you're attempting it, and it should be illegal.
To have any influence whatsoever on how the guy performs in any other way other than just saying, hey man, this is your best bet to win this fight.
Anything else you tell them, like, what are you doing?
What the fuck are you doing?
You're influencing the possible result, especially if you're a promoter.
So if there's a promoter that tells a referee they've got to stand people up early, that guy should be in jail.
james colossus thompson
Well, they had a...
I mean, I don't want to go into it too much, but...
The judges, I found out the second round, all the judges scored it 10-9 to me, the first round.
The second round it was 10-8, 10-8.
And then Gary Shaw's mate, who lives down the road from him, who Gary Shaw was on the New Jersey Athletic Commission, that guy scored it 10-8 to Kimball, that second round.
joe rogan
Whoa.
james colossus thompson
Yeah, I know.
Wow.
Just corrupt.
Yeah, like you say, it's corruption.
joe rogan
10-8.
james colossus thompson
People are crazy.
And the other end, he did 10-9 to me.
joe rogan
Yeah.
james colossus thompson
And I was like, eh?
joe rogan
There's a lot of people that are just like, just flip a coin at the end of a round, too, though.
There's a lot of bad refereeing in MMA. Or bad judging in MMA. Yeah.
More bad judging, I think, than refereeing.
There's a lot of really good referees.
But there's some standout bad judges that keep turning into bad decision after bad decision.
You're like, well, you're crazy.
How do you see that fight like that?
That's nuts!
There's so many of them.
There's so fucking many of them.
There's a lot of bad, bad judging going on.
It just doesn't make any sense to me that you're talking about a sport that's one of the most popular sports at this point in the world.
One of the most dangerous and one of the sports that requires the most commitment out of the athlete because you're not just putting your physical body on the line.
You're putting your emotional well-being, how you feel about life.
You're putting a lot of shit on the line and you're not partying.
You've got to fine-tune your weapon properly.
Over the course of eight weeks of long, hard, grueling fucking training and to have all that judged by someone who is just totally incompetent and is completely out of the loop as far as like transitions, techniques, the benefit of being in certain places, the benefit of holding certain positions.
How do you score a round?
Subjectively, When you're looking at all the different things that happen in the round, if you don't know which ones are good, how do you score that round?
Are you just guessing?
james colossus thompson
It's like you said before about the system.
That is in everything.
You see that I went to a wrestling show.
A wrestling show.
I went to like some, my mate was wrestling Greco and freestyle wrestling, like proper wrestling.
So he went out and the people, I had a mate who's a freestyle wrestler.
He won Commonwealth gold for England.
He's like the prospect.
Now we had the Olympics, didn't we?
The wrestling board, them old fuckers who haven't wrestled a day in their life, had three wildcards.
One of them, They're used for a woman who's Russian.
And the other two...
joe rogan
A Russian woman wrestler?
james colossus thompson
Yeah.
But they got a...
joe rogan
All of a sudden, I'm hard.
james colossus thompson
And she had a beard.
She had a beard as well.
joe rogan
Of course she had a beard.
She said Russian woman.
I heard you.
james colossus thompson
But the two others...
The two other...
Wildcards, they just didn't use.
Didn't give it any British people.
My mate, Leon Roberts, who'd been wrestling, like you say, forever.
That's what reminded me.
When you said it, he'd been wrestling since he was a kid.
All the way.
He gets the Olympics, he's going to go, and they don't use one of the wildcards.
Just don't use them.
Why?
It's unbelievable.
joe rogan
Well, there's a lot of corruption in sports.
james colossus thompson
And wrestling's not even part of the Olympics now.
joe rogan
No, that's crazy.
The newest thing to happen is that the Olympic Committee, which has...
Figure skating, right?
Isn't that in there?
james colossus thompson
Mate, synchronized swimming.
joe rogan
Synchronized swimming.
Ping pong.
james colossus thompson
Fucking handball.
joe rogan
All which are fine to practice if you enjoy doing them.
james colossus thompson
Yeah, you can get really good at them.
joe rogan
The idea that you can't have...
unidentified
Wrestling in the Olympics is insane.
james colossus thompson
That's what the Olympics is based on.
joe rogan
It's one of the most important sports in MMA. It's the oldest.
The most important weapon in MMA is the ability to control whether or not the fight stays up or on the ground.
If you're the better wrestler, you can dictate one of the most important aspects of fighting.
It's where the fight takes place.
james colossus thompson
And if you can enforce your game plan on the fire, you're very likely to win.
joe rogan
And forget about MMA. Forget about MMA. Wrestling for kids is one of the best tools for character development of young athletes because it is fucking brutal.
And it's really about heart and determination and it becomes about your will to push forward.
Your will to make sure that you put in the miles in the morning so that in that second period you're the one who has more energy and you get the take down.
It's character building.
It's setting goals, achieving goals, competition without worrying about getting knocked unconscious like boxing competition or martial arts competition.
It's one of the most grueling ways to test yourself.
james colossus thompson
But they're doing that.
And they find that out.
joe rogan
Crazy.
james colossus thompson
Just building a world full of pussies.
joe rogan
We are building a world full of pussies.
We really are.
And the crazy thing is when a guy like you says that, they look at you and go, oh, this fucking meathead wants everybody to be fighting in the streets.
No, I don't.
No.
But there's a benefit to character development that a lot of people are missing.
And it's one of the reasons our world is so cunty.
It's because men don't have to be men anymore.
You don't have to develop character.
You don't have any real good feel.
The way you carry yourself and the way you live your life and the way you stand up for things and the way you...
Sort of carve out your own destiny.
That's a whole part of being a man.
And you benefit from any test that your will gets.
You benefit from any new experiences you can take into a situation.
Bullet ants?
james colossus thompson
Yeah.
Yeah, with the gloves.
That's how they test them.
joe rogan
I think they just don't have the internet yet.
Because if they had the internet, they would cut that shit right out.
james colossus thompson
They'd probably be doing it on the internet.
joe rogan
They'd just be jerking off all day.
If you gave the Amazon people the internet, they'd be like, I'll get all these bitches sucking.
james colossus thompson
I thought you meant with the fucking glove.
joe rogan
No, not the glove.
james colossus thompson
That'd be painful.
joe rogan
Yeah, you'd be really gangster if you'd jerk off with a bullet ant glove.
james colossus thompson
Yeah, maybe that's the next test.
joe rogan
I'm sure someone's done it.
james colossus thompson
That's a fair fact thing, isn't it?
joe rogan
No.
Fear Factor season 2024. Adam Carolla is the new host.
Yeah, there's no way you could survive more than 100 bullet ants on your dick.
I think you would just die.
james colossus thompson
Even before, just knowing you have to do that test, you'd die.
Before you even got the chance for it on.
joe rogan
Maybe you wouldn't even.
If you don't know, folks, bullet ant is one of the most poisonous ants in the world, and Brian Callen described it to me.
That's one of my favorite ways anybody's ever described it.
They say it feels like if you get stung in your arm, like getting your arm slammed in a car door for a day.
Slam, slam, slam.
Just insane pain that brings you to your knees and it lasts like a day.
brian redban
Just imagine one in your dick hole.
james colossus thompson
What?
joe rogan
It's crawling inside your dick hole and then stings the root of your ball bag.
Your balls swell up like grapefruits.
You can't walk to the grocery store.
You have to have people go food shopping for you.
You can't walk around.
But you could get one of those little scooters as long as you didn't fall off of it.
james colossus thompson
You get disabled, budge.
joe rogan
Yeah, get one of those fucking gyroscope things.
What are those things called?
brian redban
Segways.
joe rogan
Segways, yeah.
Those were supposed to be the shit at one point in time.
People thought that they were going to take over the world.
They thought that we weren't going to be walking down city streets anymore.
It would just be segwaying back and forth, back and forth.
james colossus thompson
We had the same thing in England.
The Sinclair C5, which is now...
You've never heard of the Sinclair C5, have you?
joe rogan
No, no.
james colossus thompson
No, no.
Not many people have.
joe rogan
What is it?
james colossus thompson
It was like in the 1970s.
It was this little fucking car...
I think they might have had pedals and it was maybe solar powered.
But they're worth a fortune now.
joe rogan
Solar powered in the 70s?
james colossus thompson
Yeah, I think so.
joe rogan
What?
Do they have solar power in the 70s?
You're talking about a sunroof?
They have a sunroof?
Is that what you're saying?
james colossus thompson
That's it.
joe rogan
They had a magnifying glass.
unidentified
And it would come down and burn you.
james colossus thompson
No, I'm thinking it can't be pedals, but Sinclair C5. But they're worth a lot of money now.
joe rogan
Really?
james colossus thompson
Well, because they're such a failure.
They know like a collector item.
joe rogan
It's a weird thing that we love like a lot of old shit.
unidentified
Is that it?
james colossus thompson
There you go.
joe rogan
Oh, there we go.
So it looks like it's a pedal sort of thing.
james colossus thompson
Yeah, yeah, okay.
joe rogan
How do you steer?
brian redban
Hi guys, I'm on my Sinclair.
unidentified
He'll suck your dick.
If you ask six times, he'll suck your dick.
No.
No.
brian redban
Sometimes a doozy.
joe rogan
If you get to number six, you go, okay.
Look at his socks.
Any guy that wears socks like that will suck your dick.
You just have to be persistent.
brian redban
I'm sure all the other pictures of the guys look normal.
joe rogan
Keep asking them.
brian redban
Oh, nope.
joe rogan
It's a gay pickup site disguised as a bike car.
There's a forum, and on that forum they talk about where they park their bikes.
I park mine by the big oak tree, you know, over near the river where nobody goes.
Alright, I'll be dressed like a wizard.
james colossus thompson
It's like a dogging thing.
joe rogan
Yeah, this guy's dressed like a wizard.
He's out riding his little bike.
brian redban
Look at this guy behind him watching.
joe rogan
I'm working for Harry Potter.
He's going to meet him in the woods and suck his dick.
That's the Craigslist ad.
james colossus thompson
I can see it now.
joe rogan
They go there and they change the oil.
That's what it's called, changing the oil.
They have like their own little fucking...
james colossus thompson
Maybe that's why it wasn't successful.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's CMO, change my oil.
They wrote that at the end of their little post, you know?
LOL, CMO, change my oil.
Okay, where are we changing it?
Right behind the oak tree over here.
Oh boy, I've got a leak in my oil faucet.
That's what that guy's doing.
His kid's a victim.
Poor little kid, doesn't even know what the fuck he's doing.
He thought, he goes, I think those things would be cool to drive.
Little did he know that he was getting involved in some sort of a rest stop cult.
brian redban
Car accident with a tempo.
joe rogan
That's a girl, actually.
I think that's a girl.
brian redban
Yeah, that is a girl.
joe rogan
Little did she know that she was getting involved in some rest area cult.
Did you hear that the Pope is seeking immunity from prosecution?
Boy, I started looking in on some of this Pope shit because so many people are so upset about what he did when he was a cardinal, apparently, or whatever the fuck he was, whatever magical title.
He shielded people from child molestation charges.
One of them was a guy who molested 200 deaf kids.
So they take this guy, they take these people, they put them into psychiatric care, Then gets out, molests more kids.
It's fucking crazy.
And the Pope shielded this guy.
Took these people, in many, many cases, there's been many cases of them, took these people and kept them away from prosecution.
It's a terrifying, terrifying story.
I think most people who are Catholic probably have no idea how deep the organization goes with its willingness to protect pedophiles.
james colossus thompson
I don't think they want to know that.
joe rogan
I don't think they want to know either.
But they like to think of it as it's part of being Catholic.
I have a friend and I'm not a religious guy.
I don't believe in religion.
I believe it's very possible that there's a higher power, but I believe that whenever you let people write shit down and tell you what the fuck is supposed to be done and not supposed to be done, you lost it all.
It's like people are corrupt.
They've always been corrupt.
It's been proven.
And you're talking about people that lived a long time ago and we really didn't understand...
The distribution of information.
We didn't understand writing things down.
You were just telling each other stories for a thousand years before anybody even wrote that down on paper.
I can't go with you on that.
You can believe it if you like.
And I see where you're coming from.
It would be nice if it was true.
But...
That doesn't mean that the people that choose to agree with that also choose to agree with pedophilia and child molestation and all this shit that's going on.
They're connected to the idea of God.
They're connected to the idea of sin, religion.
They're not connected to the reality of what these priests are doing.
So it's the fact that in this day and age...
james colossus thompson
Everyone needs to question it, though, don't they?
joe rogan
Yeah, they do.
james colossus thompson
Nothing gets fucking done, not looked the other way.
joe rogan
It's an epidemic.
It's an epidemic, okay?
If it was NASCAR, race drivers, fucking kids, the shit would be closed down a long time ago.
They've spent hundreds of millions of dollars paying people off.
Hundreds of millions of dollars paying people off because they fucked their kids.
It's craziness.
It's not one case or two cases.
james colossus thompson
How much money do you have to pay someone?
joe rogan
It's hundreds of cases.
I don't know.
james colossus thompson
If someone offered me money, I'd say, oh, this goes away.
That's just pimping out your child.
That's just selling your kid for sex.
joe rogan
It's craziness.
The whole thing is crazy.
But there's been many of these guys that were shielded from prosecution because of the Pope.
They should have been in jail.
In general population, there's nothing holy about these people.
There's nothing pious about these people.
These are fucking sex criminals.
And they're out there doing their thing.
They don't even take their titles away.
james colossus thompson
The devil made me do it.
joe rogan
They don't even say that, man.
They just sweep it under the rug.
There's been guys that have said that the children have tempted the priests.
And that unknowingly, not even knowing what they're doing.
james colossus thompson
Have you heard of Frankie Boyle's joke?
joe rogan
Frankie Boyle's an English comic?
james colossus thompson
No.
joe rogan
What is this joke?
james colossus thompson
He says, why do...
Oh no, I'm killing it, Anna.
You've got to fuck this joke up.
unidentified
I might just download it and cut you off.
james colossus thompson
He doesn't tell it like this.
But he says, why do kids always go for that type?
Glasses and fucking...
joe rogan
That's kind of funny.
unidentified
A lot of kids always go for the type, priest type.
joe rogan
You know, just the fact that they're allowed to wear those outfits.
That alone.
You can't allow anybody to ever have a fancy name or wear a fancy outfit.
Because all they're saying with a fancy name or a fancy outfit is, I'm better than you.
I'm a general.
Look at my fancy outfit.
Look at all my shit.
I'm a king.
Look at my fancy outfit.
Look at all my fancy shit.
I got a fancy title.
I'm the Pope.
Oh, look at my fancy outfit.
Look at my fancy title.
You're telling me you're a magic person.
You're telling me you have superpowers.
You're telling me that you are different from everybody else that has to listen to you.
brian redban
The kids just think he's Santa Claus.
That's the whole Santa Claus.
joe rogan
They think he's in a position.
Yeah, it's like that in a way because they think he's in a position of being above them because he's wearing a crazy outfit.
And when you're young, those people...
james colossus thompson
That's just what happens.
joe rogan
You haven't questioned the whole world yet.
So when you see a guy that's wearing a pope outfit and he wants you to suck his dick, or what are those bishop outfits?
They're not the same as the pope outfits, right?
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
There's a whole bunch of stories of these guys who they don't even lose their title.
There's an ABC News report on it.
And see if you can pull that up on the Pope and child molestation charges that he protected.
There's a crazy ABC News story about it.
And it's really fucking frightening.
It's really frightening to think of how much money is spent protecting these priests.
And a lot of it is done under the guise of, if they can keep it quiet, then they can keep the business going.
Because the Catholic Church is like a business.
The Vatican is a giant business.
It's a huge business.
So when shit got too hot with this guy, they're like, listen man, we need a new CEO. You gotta get the fuck out of here.
james colossus thompson
So he's quit.
Is that why he's quit?
Because of that?
joe rogan
There's only one reason why he would be trying to avoid prosecution.
Well, there's two.
There's one, there's some sort of a money scheme.
There's some sort of a money laundering scandal.
There's like missing money or missing or not placed money.
I don't know what that's all about.
I don't know if that's valid.
And then there's this.
And this is much scarier because this is the guy who's at the highest level of that position.
I mean he's a pope.
It's a frightening thing to think someone could get to that position and have avoided what the laws are and – but just what natural – his moral compass should be that a person who's a pedophile is not – You don't put them into just psychiatric care and move them to a new place where they can molest children.
You put them in jail.
They're criminals.
Whether or not they're sorry, that's beside the point.
That person has victimized someone and the law is such as when someone does that, they're supposed to be locked up.
Just like murder.
Just like robbery.
There's a lot of laws, okay?
And you can't shield someone from that law because they wear a fancy outfit.
That's crazy.
That's bananas.
And that can't keep going.
It just can't.
And it's much like what we were talking about, like Kings, you know?
james colossus thompson
I mean, the thing with Jimmy Savile in England, and how far that goes.
And I tell you, he called that.
joe rogan
Yeah, and by the way, my friend Steve, who's English, was just telling me this story this weekend.
I wasn't aware of it.
And I bet a lot of people who are listening to this also weren't aware of it.
Tell the Jimmy Savile story as best you can.
unidentified
I'll help it.
joe rogan
I'll decipher some of the shit you say if it gets so confusing.
james colossus thompson
We like subtitles up here.
joe rogan
Is your accent, would you call it Cockney?
james colossus thompson
No, no, that's London.
joe rogan
That's London?
What is your accent?
james colossus thompson
Northern.
I'm a Northern monkey.
joe rogan
A Northern monkey?
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, so this Jimmy Saville, that's how you say his name?
unidentified
Yeah, Jimmy Saville.
joe rogan
He was a huge popular...
james colossus thompson
He had the first ever nightclub in the 70s.
joe rogan
The first ever nightclub.
james colossus thompson
In Britain.
Yeah, I remember an interview when he was talking about it.
So the first ever nightclub, he was the DJ, then went on Top of the Pops, then he had Jim O'Fixit, which was a massive...
joe rogan
And Jim O'Fixit was a huge television show, right?
james colossus thompson
Yes, with all the kids.
joe rogan
With kids.
james colossus thompson
With kids.
joe rogan
So this guy would, like, have you be sitting on a chair like a king, kids sitting in his lap.
james colossus thompson
Well, they write letters to him.
joe rogan
Yeah.
james colossus thompson
And you get a medal.
Jim fixed it for you.
joe rogan
Yeah.
james colossus thompson
Like a fucking rape badge.
joe rogan
Yeah, right?
And this guy apparently had just molested hundreds of kids.
james colossus thompson
Wow.
joe rogan
And the BBC knew about it?
Was that the whole scandal?
james colossus thompson
It's...
How much did they know?
And how much...
It also...
Not only did...
Not also...
Not only was he like that.
Sorry about that.
joe rogan
No need for that.
Not only did they know about it.
james colossus thompson
Yeah, not only did they know about it.
joe rogan
Meanwhile, he speaks English.
I'm like trying to help him with English.
james colossus thompson
That's not a good sign, is it?
That means I'm not doing very well.
When Joe's like, cheering me on.
joe rogan
I'm sorry.
So Jimmy Savile.
james colossus thompson
He did a lot of charity runs.
He did a lot of things like that.
And he did them things to get the publicity.
And he got his own ward on a children's hospital.
A mental hospital.
So he could stay there.
And that's what he did.
He did these runs.
And anyone say anything, he would like proper play them off.
So they'd say, well, okay, you can say something, but you won't be getting X amount of checks when I do the run for this or the run for that.
So a lot of people knew that something was going on.
He was molesting people.
And it was necrophilia.
joe rogan
Necrophilia?
unidentified
What?
james colossus thompson
Yeah, that's out.
And I tell you...
joe rogan
That's out.
That's out now.
unidentified
The Colossus says Jimmy Savile fucks dead people.
joe rogan
How did he get dead bodies?
james colossus thompson
Oh, because he was at the hospital.
He had the keys.
He had everything.
unidentified
He had total control of him.
james colossus thompson
And he was opening hospitals.
He was in the royal family.
There's so many pictures of him with the royal family.
He was like proper friends with them.
He was up there.
He had loads of pictures of him with the royal family.
brian redban
Thaw out some kids.
unidentified
What the fuck?
Could you imagine?
joe rogan
He's a pedophile necrophiliac.
He probably was fucking kids.
He's like, this is not evil enough.
I need to fuck a dead one.
james colossus thompson
Look on YouTube, Brian.
There's a clip where it's molesting a famous band.
There's a lady...
joe rogan
What is his name?
Jimmy?
james colossus thompson
How do you spell it?
unidentified
Jimmy Saville.
james colossus thompson
Top of the Pops.
Jimmy what?
Saville.
joe rogan
Spell it.
S-E-V-I-L-L-E? S-E-V-I-L-L-E? I might be wrong.
unidentified
Yeah, I got it.
joe rogan
Is that it?
james colossus thompson
So you've got Jimmy Saville molests, or fills up, fills up, top of the Pops, and he's filling up one of these, I can't remember the fucking woman's name.
brian redban
Here we go.
james colossus thompson
Have you found it?
brian redban
Turn the volume up here.
james colossus thompson
He is a creepy fucker too.
I mean, if you look at him, he is arctic.
And he's meant to be the one who brokered it so much for other stars and other people to fuck children.
He was meant to be the man.
joe rogan
Well, that's one of the things they say about...
Oh, there he is.
Look at him.
unidentified
So, ladies and gentlemen, all we can say is goodnight from all of us here on top of the box.
And it's number one time.
And, of course, if you believe me now, it's from the one and only...
She.
Car.
Go.
joe rogan
What was he doing?
james colossus thompson
I don't know.
brian redban
I guess he had his finger, like, up her like a, uh, up see?
james colossus thompson
Oh, he pinched her ass.
The one in the yellow.
joe rogan
He did it again, look.
He's, like, grabbing at her.
james colossus thompson
That's not even the one I was talking about.
That's a different one I haven't seen.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
brian redban
Why don't you blame him?
joe rogan
You know, he's running a bunch of chicks.
He got a little crazy.
james colossus thompson
He got a little carried away.
That wasn't too bad.
It's when you see him at all the young kids.
joe rogan
Well, and that's a woman too.
That's not a child.
And apparently he did this to a bunch of children.
He had a fucking show baby as well.
If you pull up, Jim will fix it, Brian.
It's really crazy when you see him.
He had these children scattered around him and sitting on his lap.
james colossus thompson
Yeah.
joe rogan
And apparently the people knew about it.
They knew he was doing it.
The people around him.
james colossus thompson
He's like, that's my childhood.
Well, no, that's not my childhood.
That Jim will fix it was big then.
Everyone was writing letters to old Jim.
joe rogan
How long did this go on for?
james colossus thompson
What fucking ever?
He died and no one knew about it.
joe rogan
No one knew about it until he died.
james colossus thompson
He got knighted!
He got knighted!
joe rogan
It says what year?
unidentified
It doesn't say.
joe rogan
Does it say in the top?
Like in the information?
Wow.
What year was this on?
james colossus thompson
All the way through the 70s and 80s.
unidentified
Wow.
You don't know, listen to you, was it a surprise?
Yeah.
You sure?
Yeah.
She said that you had to prick your goose pimples because you didn't believe what was happening, is that right?
Yeah.
What were you shouting?
Have we won?
Have we won?
What was all that before?
Have we won?
We sort of meant, are we going to be on?
No, you're not going to be on Jim and fix it now.
Very sorry.
Very sorry, I'm afraid we can't be on Jim and fix it because anybody with goose pimples, it so happens, Come on, Jim, I'll fix it.
If you have ghost pimples, you can come on.
What is this?
You English people are fucking weird, man.
james colossus thompson
We are, aren't we?
I don't know what the fuck this is.
What's happening?
brian redban
That girl has Johnny Carson eyes, too.
james colossus thompson
Say hello to him.
unidentified
This one's name is Prance, and you can give him a little pat on the nose.
joe rogan
You'll like that.
Everyone knows Santa Claus does not talk like that, and that cabra is going to bite that kid's fingers off.
unidentified
How about that, eh?
Now, I've got two very special presents for you.
I love how it says drugjail.com.
joe rogan
Those are the people that are holding...
What the fuck is...
james colossus thompson
Wow.
joe rogan
So that guy was a huge, huge celebrity in England.
No one had any idea, huh?
james colossus thompson
Well, a lot of people had an idea, and that's just it.
How many people knew that's the big thing now?
But the public...
joe rogan
Isn't it amazing how many stories like that turn out to exist and how many secrets actually get kept with horrible situations like that?
Like the Jerry Sandusky thing.
They kept that a secret for a long time.
And it wasn't like a little secret.
It wasn't that.
No, no, no.
He was fucking a gang of kids, and everybody knew it, and somehow or another he got away with it.
james colossus thompson
That's why with conspiracies, I think he can keep secrets.
joe rogan
Yeah.
You know, there was a guy who investigated Jerry Sandusky that disappeared, too.
There's a prosecutor.
They found his laptop without the hard drive in a river.
Never found him.
Yeah, fucking see ya.
Disappeared.
They killed the guy investigating.
And I asked my friend Joey Diaz.
I was like, why would they do it?
He goes, you know how much fucking money is involved in college sports?
And so he pulls up all these stats on college sports.
Like how much the alumni get.
Like how much a college can get from people donating.
People that used to go there.
It's billions of dollars.
It's crazy money.
It's ridiculous how much money it is.
And that's sort of the same thing with the Vatican.
That's sort of the same thing with this BBC program.
There's a lot of people making money.
Nobody wanted to fuck it up.
Same thing with Jerry Sandusky.
It's the same thing.
It's like, somehow or another, people conspire to allow horrible things to happen to children.
james colossus thompson
They just don't think about it.
joe rogan
I don't know.
It's not that they don't think about it.
It's that they think about money more than they think about what's right.
At this point in time, there's no way anybody can...
It's not like you're shocked when you hear about a priest molesting a kid.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
No one's shocked.
You're angered, you're saddened, you're horrified, but you can't be like, I don't believe it!
It's not possible!
It's not possible!
If you found out, like, say, that Brad Pitt was a child molester, you'd be devastated.
You'd be like, how the fuck?
That doesn't make sense.
That's nuts.
But you hear that a priest is doing it, you're like, that's the pattern.
That's the pattern, yeah.
They're the ones who do it.
james colossus thompson
That's on the application phone.
joe rogan
It comes up a lot.
I don't know if it's all of them.
I'm sure it's not all of them.
But man, it's a lot of them.
You know, I'm sure there's a good percentage of priests out there that are in it for the right reasons and doing the right things.
But if there was that many Kinko's copy workers that fuck kids, wouldn't they shut down Kinko's as an illegal kid fucking organization?
Wouldn't they go in and look at what's going on here and go, what are you guys doing?
You making envelopes and kids fucking?
Are you making cockies?
What's happening here?
james colossus thompson
One of them's got a goal.
joe rogan
Yeah, but at least Kinko's has a fucking business.
They actually provide a service, you know?
These crazy fucks are telling mumbo-jumbo and blowing little kids.
james colossus thompson
Christopher Hitchens, he was fucking wicked, wasn't he?
joe rogan
Yes, he was.
Brilliant, brilliant man.
james colossus thompson
He got the Iraq war wrong, didn't he?
joe rogan
Well, he became a bit of a neocon.
I think a lot of older, more conservative guys, especially people that loathe radical fundamentalist religions, which he did.
I think he felt like it was important to have that sort of a strong military stance against the tyranny of the religious world.
I don't agree with that either.
When you have that kind of power, it ultimately corrupts.
And when you allow people to just go into countries under the guise of doing that, you're going to get a gang of corruption and chaos and craziness like they have in Iraq right now.
Iraq right now is fucking bananas.
It's more unstable than it's ever been before.
What is Afghanistan like?
That's fucking crazy too.
james colossus thompson
The more you look into it, the more you see.
What do people want to know?
Do people want to learn?
They're busy.
They've got 9 to 5, they've got a few kids.
joe rogan
They have no time.
james colossus thompson
Got no time for anything.
joe rogan
No time.
And it's all the way over there.
It's way over there.
james colossus thompson
It's way over there.
It's fucking miles away.
joe rogan
James Thompson, we're not going over there.
We don't have to worry about that.
Just stay over here and get a burger.
Kick back, relax.
UFC's on.
james colossus thompson
Yeah, no.
And that's it.
It's so easily done.
joe rogan
So you're not fighting for the Super Fight League anymore.
james colossus thompson
No.
joe rogan
Who are you fighting for now?
james colossus thompson
No one.
joe rogan
No one.
Are you training anywhere specific?
james colossus thompson
No.
I'm training at Olympians.
I'm Paddy Johns.
I'm now a trainer.
joe rogan
Where's that at?
james colossus thompson
What city is that in?
unidentified
Bristol.
joe rogan
Bristol.
james colossus thompson
I was training at London Shoot Fighters.
Great team.
joe rogan
Yeah.
james colossus thompson
But I needed to get out of London with my gambling and things like that.
Right.
joe rogan
You know Marius?
james colossus thompson
Marius.
Oh yeah, he mentioned a few times.
He's a good guy.
joe rogan
I said hi.
james colossus thompson
Yeah, I will do.
joe rogan
Great guys.
james colossus thompson
Yeah, they are wicked.
joe rogan
Yeah.
james colossus thompson
Do you know when you tell the story about Germany?
joe rogan
What story about Germany?
The Eddie Bravo story?
james colossus thompson
Yeah, yeah.
It's really weird because I listen to the podcast all the time.
I'm a massive fan.
When I hear that story, I was at that fight with Moss.
I was at that hotel with Moss.
I've seen you at breakfast, but you had lots of people who didn't want to bother you, so...
And it's the same thing.
And then on that night, I was coming home fucking really late and I pressed the button for the elevator and Eddie Bravo was there and his eyes were so fucking red.
That's all I could see was like redness.
And he's like...
But it's just weird when you tell that story.
joe rogan
You saw it.
james colossus thompson
You got a little tiny sliver of it.
joe rogan
You knew he was gone.
For folks who don't know the story, Eddie Bravo and I were staying in Germany once and I was getting breakfast.
It was like, I don't know, 7 in the morning or something like that.
We were getting picked up at like 8.30.
So I call him up and I say, hey man, I'm getting some breakfast if you're hungry.
I'm downstairs.
And he goes, I'm still up, man!
I'm going to power through!
He was up all night.
I was like, okay, you know we're getting picked up in an hour and a half.
I got it, man!
I got it!
I'm cool.
I'm like, alright, shit.
So an hour and a half goes by.
I'm like, where the fuck is Eddie?
I can't find him.
He's not answering the phone.
I go to his room.
I knock on his door.
He's not in his room.
I go outside.
I'm like, motherfucker, where is he?
And then I go, all right, man, I'm just going to tell him he's going to have to take a cab to the airport when he wakes up because I got to go.
I'm not going to miss my fucking flight if I can't get a hold of him.
So I go to get my car.
I say, yeah, a car for Rogan.
He goes, Rogan already left.
And I go, what?
I go, what did he look like?
He goes, long hair, tattoos.
I'm like, motherfucker!
james colossus thompson
Red eyes.
joe rogan
So Eddie told him he was me and got in my car and went to the airport on his own.
He did this all blacked out drunk.
So I call him.
His phone rings and he wakes up.
And he answers it.
He's like, hello?
I go, what the fuck are you doing?
I don't know.
And I go, you're in my fucking car and you're going to the airport.
Tell him to turn around.
He's like, I think we're already here.
I'm like, fuck, man.
What are you doing?
He woke up.
He had no idea what he did.
He asked the guy, he goes, where are we?
Where are we going?
The guy's like, you told me you're going to the airport.
james colossus thompson
You're Joe Rogan.
joe rogan
Eddie Bravo could fucking party, man.
He knows how to put him away.
He knows how to let it go, I'll tell you that.
james colossus thompson
He used to work for the UFC, too, didn't he?
joe rogan
Yeah, he did a bunch of different things for the UFC. One of the things he did was, for a while, and I really think this was a...
Someone needs to do this, and Eddie's really good at it.
Someone needs to do an objective breakdown, like Harold Letterman's style, of how they felt the fight went down.
I think it behooves the organization to have a professional ringside statistician, or a ringside, rather, judge.
Unofficial judge, like Harold Letterman has in HBO, and Eddie Bravo did that for a while.
But I think there was an issue with him, and his opinions wouldn't necessarily go with how the judges scored the fight, and I don't think the commission liked that.
I don't think the State Athletic Commission enjoyed having someone who essentially was a professional critic.
They didn't want that.
Especially with a new sport, you have to make some concessions.
So they decided not to have that anymore.
But I personally think that it's good in two ways.
It's not that I want people to get fired who are competent.
I think people who are competent should stay.
But people who are incompetent should be exposed.
james colossus thompson
It should be highlighted.
joe rogan
It should be highlighted.
It's very important.
And the idea that their job is more important, their silly, easy job that they're not really qualified, For is as important as a person like yourself that's put six, eight weeks of your life day in day out, grind, watching your diet, doing the work for this one moment that gets ruined because someone doesn't understand what the fuck they're doing.
That's craziness.
And one of the best ways to expose that is like how Harold Letterman does it.
And Harold Letterman is, you know, if there's a bad decision, he will tell you, I don't understand it.
I had it down.
94 points to Jones.
There's no way he could have lost this fight.
james colossus thompson
That's healthy, like you say.
That's what you need.
joe rogan
You need it.
james colossus thompson
And that's why they don't want it.
joe rogan
So Eddie did that for a while.
And then he also would do, when you put together like a highlight package in the end of the round, you know, like when a guy, like say a guy's going for a submission.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
Eddie would tell them, you got to get the camera over here, like where his wrist is, this is what's important.
And then he would say, you know, like he would like help them piece together the highlights.
He would be in the truck.
He was like in the truck and he was calling.
And like sometimes he would tell me something too.
Like he would like, hey, look for his left arm.
He's going for a triangle or something like that.
And, you know, he would give me like a pointer here and there.
And point out certain things if he saw things.
But he was basically there to coordinate the highlight reels and tell them where to put the camera on.
Which is very important.
Mark Delagrate does it now.
And you need a guy who has been around fighting, understands where there's a problem.
He knows how to put together the highlight reel.
It was the jab that started off.
Watch the jab makes his knees buckle, and then he lands the leg kick, and then he comes with a high kick.
So Mark will do that now.
james colossus thompson
Yeah, he worked for Pride too, Eddie Bravo.
joe rogan
Yeah, he did.
He was one of the color commentators for Pride for a few events, and he also did King of the Cage.
He did the color commentary for King of the Cage for a bunch of events.
They were rough as fuck, weren't they?
Yeah.
Did you ever see the King of the Cage one that they did?
james colossus thompson
Wild wet.
joe rogan
Yeah, Wet and Wild, that's what I was going to bring up.
It was raining out, and so they just said, fuck it, we're going to have the fights anyway.
It was outside.
If you haven't seen it, it's worth getting.
If it's available, if you can find it somewhere, King of the Cage, Wet and Wild, it was fucking ridiculous.
james colossus thompson
It was completely ridiculous.
Everyone was literally slipping.
joe rogan
They were flying all over the place.
And, I mean, if you're a wrestler, good luck holding on to a guy who's, like, completely soaked.
I mean, people are just slipping out of dudes' hands like bars of soap.
james colossus thompson
It was bad.
It was coming down, too.
joe rogan
Yeah.
james colossus thompson
Fucking mental.
joe rogan
Well, those are the days, man.
And you were part of those are the days, too, with your pride fights, man.
I mean, you were part of some...
Epic shit.
You were part of Pride when it was at its peak.
What was that like, man?
What was the atmosphere like of those events?
james colossus thompson
It's like a culture shock.
Obviously, in Japan, it's so different.
Do you know what I mean?
Just everything's so different.
I remember coming out to fight, and like we said earlier, I ain't been fighting long, and coming up for a fucking helmet.
I've been fighting in front of 2,000...
Excuse me, 2,000 people walking out in their fucking leisure centres and then walking out for a fucking lift full of smoke and lights and fucking walking for a Samurai helmet.
Do you know what I mean?
It's a lot to take in.
joe rogan
What was the biggest crowd that you fought under?
james colossus thompson
About 60,000 people.
joe rogan
I've seen that before at the Rogers Centre in Toronto.
We had a UFC there and it was somewhere around 60,000 between 58. It's so crazy.
You're looking around and you're like, this is a lot of fucking people.
james colossus thompson
And then there's points in the Japanese.
Everyone's quiet.
Do you know what I mean?
joe rogan
60,000 quiet people.
james colossus thompson
Because I remember, and the lights went down because the other guy was getting it, I can't remember who it was, was coming in and the lights went down and I couldn't hear anything.
And I was thinking, fuck, am I dreaming or something?
You do it, you know what I mean?
- Right, right. - You go black, and then the fucking lights come back on and you're thinking, fuck it, now there we go.
joe rogan
- Am I dreaming?
james colossus thompson
Wow.
- And then you get punched in the face and you think, nope, I'm awake.
joe rogan
- Well, it must have been especially crazy for you because how many fights did you have outside of Pride?
james colossus thompson
I had, I thought, I don't know what, 10, 11, 12, 13, probably, I had quite a few, as in in a short amount of time.
joe rogan
Like 10 or 11 you had?
james colossus thompson
No, I had about 13 fights probably.
joe rogan
13 fights before Pride?
james colossus thompson
Probably.
Give or take.
joe rogan
That's a lot of fights to have over a year and a half period.
james colossus thompson
Yeah, I was literally loving it.
I moved next to the gym and I was like, this is what I'm going to do.
Wow.
And just back and forth, going everywhere and just training my ass off.
And you see the difference in my kind of physical, my fitness and that, like from my first fight to maybe my fourth fight.
I look completely different.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm sure.
james colossus thompson
Completely different.
joe rogan
What is the getting drunk with Fedor story?
james colossus thompson
It was...
I can't remember what...
He beat Mark Hunt and I'd come home and I was fucking pissed.
I seen Fedor in the hallway, in the reception, and when he turned to see me, when he turned around and saw me, I started swaying, like just fucking about, you know what I mean?
And then he was like, ah!
So then I went over to him, he started wrestling with me, and I started fucking about wrestling, and I thought, oh, in a minute he's going to sambo on me, and I was looking at that fucking cold marble, thinking, please don't fucking...
Please don't fuck him, flip me now.
But yeah, and then he brought me down to have a drink with all these Russian, Vladimir, whatever.
joe rogan
Putin?
james colossus thompson
No.
joe rogan
No?
james colossus thompson
No, this is in Pride, this is in Japan, Vladimir, Matt Kuge's fucking manager.
joe rogan
Oh, Matt Yushchenko.
james colossus thompson
Yeah, I didn't pronounce it perfect.
joe rogan
That was his manager?
james colossus thompson
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, Vadim.
Vadim Finkelstein.
I'm thinking of a different guy.
Vladimir Matt Yushchenko is a fighter.
UFC fighter.
The janitor.
james colossus thompson
Yeah, you're right.
I get mixed up.
I didn't pronounce that.
unidentified
I don't know.
james colossus thompson
Not only did I pronounce it terribly, I got the wrong fucking person.
joe rogan
But doesn't Putin come to his fights too?
He's a huge superstar in Russia, right?
james colossus thompson
Massive.
I mean, people who know MMA, he's a massive superstar.
joe rogan
Fedor and his peak, man, was one of my all-time favorites.
One of my all-time favorites.
He was just so special.
Because he was so stoic.
You know, like this dead-faced killer.
And if you go back and you watch the highlight fights, like Noguera fights, Krokop, when he was really at his very best, man.
He was exceptional.
Very, very fun to watch.
james colossus thompson
He really...
I mean, everyone's seen that a million times, the fucking Van Domen slam.
unidentified
Incredible.
james colossus thompson
And then he relaxes and then comes back and then minutes later he's got a key lock.
joe rogan
How did he survive that?
james colossus thompson
Yeah.
joe rogan
How did he survive that?
james colossus thompson
He's so relaxed.
His body's so relaxed.
joe rogan
But just to avoid injury, to get slammed like that and avoid injury is incredible.
james colossus thompson
He just didn't want it anymore.
He just lost.
He lost.
Also, competition's getting better, bigger guys.
joe rogan
Well, I think you can only keep up that certain, that RPMs, that certain sort of workload that he was at.
You can only keep that up for a certain amount of time.
There's issues with the body.
The body breaking down after combat sports of, you know, 10-15 years.
Unless you're Randy Couture, who's just, I don't know how he did it, but whatever he did, he managed to avoid injury.
The one thing that no one avoids.
People who, you know, have competed in mixed martial arts, if you look at, like, issues, like, along the way, like, guys who have broken hands, guys who have had this, guys who have had that, guys who tore knees, guys who, like, needed neck operations.
So many guys.
Randy didn't need shit.
One broken arm in a fight with Gonzaga.
Gonzaga broke his arm with a kick.
Got his arm in a cast.
No big deal.
Six weeks later, he's fucking hitting a speed bag.
It's like...
How'd that guy avoid injury?
He's amazing.
Intelligence, toughness, genetics.
There's a whole bunch of things working his way, but it's really incredible.
But for most guys, there's only a certain amount of time you can operate at a high level before you lose your drive for it.
james colossus thompson
Yeah, your politics and life gets in the way.
joe rogan
He got super religious, too.
The name Fedor got a really...
It's actually not even Fedor.
Do you know that's what we call it?
It's Fyodor.
james colossus thompson
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
A Russian friend of mine from Jiu-Jitsu was explaining how he actually said his name.
It's Fyodor.
unidentified
Fyodor.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Like Dostoevsky, you know?
We call him Fedor because it's easier.
But Fedor, gotta be honest, Fedor.
Fedor sounds better.
james colossus thompson
Sorry to break it, dear.
joe rogan
Russian.
brian redban
Falkor would be best.
joe rogan
Too much with your crazy language.
james colossus thompson
He was such a nice guy, though.
He was the guy at the top all the time.
Always had time for everyone.
He wasn't like an outlandish person.
He was very quiet.
I had time for everyone.
I really had a lot of time for him.
joe rogan
He's an unusual dude.
His demeanor was just so different than anybody that had ever been around before.
That was one of the things that was kind of special about him.
We had been used to so many different things.
Certain boxers that had certain charisma about him, whether it's Muhammad Ali or Sugar Ray Leonard or Mike Tyson, they have this certain cult and aura about him.
He was different than all of them.
He was like, oh, here's this new thing from a guy who plays chess and doesn't get freaked out at anything and just beats your ass.
Here's this new look where a guy seems like he's kind of a robot or something, and he manages to smash really tough guys.
Managed to walk down Krokop.
He beat Krokop not just on the ground.
He beat him standing up.
james colossus thompson
He did, yeah.
His reaction was so fucking quick as well.
joe rogan
So quick.
He's an animal.
And he fucking trained really smart.
He trained really smart and really hard.
But even then, they started questioning his training methods after he went over to Affliction and fought those fights.
Then the Strikeforce shit, he just got smashed, man, over and over again.
Just getting smashed by Henderson and getting smashed by Bigfoot.
You know, watching those fights and watching those brutal beatdowns, you just gotta go, man.
james colossus thompson
Yeah, he's hot.
joe rogan
Yeah.
james colossus thompson
It's fucking hard.
joe rogan
Especially the Bigfoot fight.
unidentified
Yeah.
james colossus thompson
Well, especially for him when he's so used to winning.
joe rogan
Yeah.
james colossus thompson
Just the way it is.
joe rogan
Even Brett Rogers.
Like, Brett Rogers put up a good fight.
It was a good, tough fight.
And, you know, Fedor eventually caught him and cracked him.
But, man, you've got to look at that fight and go, like, he's not supposed to struggle like that with Brett Rogers.
It's not the same guy anymore.
james colossus thompson
He struggled with Mark Hunt after the story.
He did struggle that time.
joe rogan
He did a little bit.
Mark Hunt had him on the ground and had his arm locked up in a kimura but couldn't pull it off, couldn't do anything with it.
But it was crazy how he was able to do it.
He was able to get his arm and even have it locked out.
james colossus thompson
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Like, that's so bold.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And then Verdum, obviously exposed, not exposed, but exposed the fact, when I say exposed, the fact that he's human.
I mean, everybody thought he was just an unstoppable robot, and all of a sudden Verdum exposed him as a human.
unidentified
Yeah, of course.
joe rogan
He tapped him, and when I say exposed, I have great respect for Fedor.
It's not, when I say, and people give me shit from saying that, But that is absolutely not what I mean when I say he was exposed.
What I mean is that we found out he was human.
Because anybody Fabricio Verdun catches in his triangle is fucked.
That guy is a master at the triangle.
And that triangle arm bar was nasty.
And Fedor was stuck.
He had to tap.
Nothing wrong with that.
But what we thought before was that that could never happen.
It seemed like he was a superhero.
It seemed like he was like Mike Tyson when he lost to Buster Douglas.
Nobody thought Tyson was going to lose.
We thought Tyson was going to be around forever just destroying people.
And then when he got destroyed, you're like, what?
This can't be real!
james colossus thompson
He was so excited.
joe rogan
He was exposed.
And it's not that he was one of the greatest fighters of all time.
Mike Tyson is absolutely one of the greatest boxers of all time.
One of the greatest heavyweight champions, the most exciting of all time.
But he's exposed in that fight as a human being.
Not as a bad fighter.
He's amazing.
But that's a human.
Every human is subject to the laws of physics and nature.
And you can only go so far in these meat vehicles.
james colossus thompson
I think it's the mental side of it too, obviously.
I don't know.
But I just think Fedor didn't have the same...
joe rogan
Drive anymore.
unidentified
I think it's hard to keep up after all those years.
joe rogan
Years and years and years and years of hard training, being away from your family.
And again, he got really religious too.
james colossus thompson
Why are you doing it?
Are you doing it to test yourself?
Are you doing it for money?
Are you doing it to be number one?
What are your motives behind it?
It fucking hurts.
It's hard mentally and physically.
joe rogan
To keep it up, to get there unbelievably hard, to keep it up as unbelievable, and to keep it up for as long as he did, it's like you only have a certain amount of RPMs that you can push for.
There's only a certain amount, especially in a crazy situation like cage fighting, you gotta think there's only a certain amount of times a man can get hit.
There's only a certain amount of times a man can get thrown or armbarred or kicked.
There's a finite number in there somewhere.
And he's a smart guy.
He has to have realized that at a certain point in time.
And then Verdum, and then Bigfoot, and then Henderson.
It's like, okay, you know.
james colossus thompson
Yeah.
joe rogan
What a legacy, though.
james colossus thompson
Yeah, what a legacy.
joe rogan
You know, they were trying to put together Brock Lesnar and Fedor really recently, the UFC was, but he doesn't want to do it anymore.
james colossus thompson
Yeah, but they say that, but, I mean, were they?
I don't know.
Oh, did Brock Lesnar or Fedor?
I don't want to do it because I don't think Brock Lesnar was too happy.
joe rogan
Brock Lesnar would have done it.
james colossus thompson
Do you think so?
joe rogan
Yeah, they offered him a fuckload of money.
I bet he would have done it.
Yeah.
james colossus thompson
Well, I don't know.
joe rogan
Brock!
james colossus thompson
He looked like he didn't want to...
I mean, he had the surgery, which was massive.
joe rogan
That was a huge issue.
He had, for folks who don't know, he had diverticulitis.
And they removed like 12 inches of his colon.
It was a very serious internal surgery.
It was a real injury.
And then X amount of months later, however it was, he's fighting Alistair Overeem.
And Overeem knees him in the body and kicks him in the body.
And having Overeem kick you in the body, like, oh, Jesus Christ.
james colossus thompson
To me, before, I think he was thinking about the fight.
I think he was worried.
I mean, you're obviously worried about every fight, but I think he was even more, because I don't.
From what I saw him when Kane beat him, he turned his back.
joe rogan
Shane Carwin got him standing as well.
I mean, I think personally, Brock Lesnar is one of the greatest athletes to ever enter into MMA. I really do.
I just think that if he was going to do it, what he did is what you did.
Just jumped right into the defense.
james colossus thompson
What he did, he was fighting Frank Mayer.
Second fight.
Second fight, Frank Mayer.
joe rogan
He basically Pujanowski'd it, but he pulled it off.
james colossus thompson
Yes.
joe rogan
He did the same, very similar path.
Even harder.
Much, much, much harder path, no doubt about it.
Cain Velasquez, Shane Carwin, Frank Mir, no doubt.
Randy Couture.
I mean, his fucking career is, Alistair Overeem, his career is filled with champions.
james colossus thompson
And when you look at that Carwin fight, it's not like he can't take a punch.
Fuck me, Carwin landed that elbow, and I thought it was over.
Do you know what I mean?
And he came back to win.
Convincingly.
joe rogan
Well, his fight with Heath Herring, you know, his fight in the UFC, his third fight in the UFC, or his second fight in the UFC. Seasoned veteran.
Seasoned veteran and a tough motherfucker.
Heath Herring is tough as shit.
And Brock Lesnar just ran him over.
This is a guy that was a super athlete, but he would have had to, in order to do it really, truly, correctly, he would have had to build up slowly.
He would have had to do it intelligently, he would have had to do it over quite a long period of time, and he should have fought The right amount of competition along the way.
Instead, he went right to champions.
He went right to the greatest fighters in the world today.
He went to Cain Velasquez, Overeem, Shane Carwin.
He was just right into these animals.
Whereas if he had gone for a few years in the lower organizations, building up, trying to fight for some other companies, get a good record against some good fighters, and then put together a real striking game.
james colossus thompson
Yeah, well, that was the thing, because he had power, and he was explosive.
joe rogan
Big fucking guy, man.
james colossus thompson
Do you know what I mean?
joe rogan
But...
But he did want...
That's how he wanted to do it.
He did it his way, and he's out.
See ya.
james colossus thompson
I'm fair play to him.
joe rogan
Yeah.
james colossus thompson
Fair play to him.
But, um...
joe rogan
Too bad, though, because when it comes to, like, making money, like, if you want to make money off a draw, you think Kimbo slices a draw?
Brock Lesnar's a fucking draw.
That's a guy that people want to see fight.
I mean, he looks like the baddest motherfucker in the world.
You know, you see him standing there, like, if you're going to have a guy, you're this big Viking-looking motherfucker, that would be the guy that you would want to have represent you.
james colossus thompson
That tattoo, though.
joe rogan
The sword in his chest.
james colossus thompson
Brock, what?
I lost it, mate.
You're laughing at mine.
You're laughing at mine.
Fucking hell.
Would you laugh at Brock like that?
joe rogan
I would have to break it to him slowly.
I think I would laugh.
I think, at the very least, I would...
brian redban
Ryan Keely's working for that show, Tattoo Nightmares, where they take tattoos, and you go on the show, and they fix it for you.
unidentified
Oh, really?
brian redban
Reality show.
And she contacted me.
She's like, do you know any MMA fighters that...
You know, have a tattoo they don't want to get fixed or anything like that.
And I'm like, I have no idea.
The only one I can think of is Brock.
She goes, I must contact Brock.
And so now she's, like, contacting Brock.
I'm like, no, no, leave him alone.
Don't even say anything.
unidentified
Oh, no.
Oh, you don't want that at all.
james colossus thompson
Why did you say Brock?
brian redban
No, because it's the only one that came to mind that, like, you know, when you see that one tattoo, it kind of looks like a statue or the...
james colossus thompson
You think he should change it?
Does he think he should change it?
brian redban
No, I don't think he does.
That's what I told her.
I was like, I think that's the only one I could think of.
It's like Little Mermaid before they edited the cover.
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't think he would appreciate you saying that his tattoo sucks.
brian redban
No, I'm not saying it sucks.
It looks like a cock at all, Joe.
joe rogan
I didn't say that.
brian redban
No, you did say that.
joe rogan
I didn't say that.
That's what's important.
Didn't.
I didn't say it either.
Neither one of us did say it looks like a cock.
brian redban
No.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, I think he was at a point in his life, I think his description of it, he felt like he had a knife to his throat, so he fucking tattooed one on his body.
james colossus thompson
It's whatever, you know, I can't, you know, like I say, I've got fucking dates crossed out my fucking arm, do you know what I mean?
joe rogan
So you're not gambling at all now, is that the deal?
james colossus thompson
Well, last time, I mean, I'm doing a documentary, and...
Basically, I was doing the documentary, I gambled up the rest of my money, well, me and my missus' money, and I ended up living in the gym.
Whoa!
Yeah, and it was fucking freezing.
Goddamn!
So I was living in the gym on a mattress, and I got offered, people offered me to stay other places, but I knew I needed something big to get me back into training.
I was 145 kilos.
joe rogan
What's that in pounds?
It's like 300 pounds?
james colossus thompson
300 plus pounds.
joe rogan
300 plus?
james colossus thompson
Yeah, like 330 or something.
joe rogan
Whoa, 330?
james colossus thompson
I mean, and I'm not good weight either.
I've been that heavy before between muscle or muscle and muscle.
This was fat, like unadulterated, pure fat.
I was in the gym, living on a mattress, and then I had the documentary.
I was going to be starting that, and I thought, okay, we'll film it in here.
So I started doing it.
I started getting good footage and getting more confident.
The only thing good I started was with my blog.
The only good thing I started when I gambled was my blog.
I started doing that and getting it out there.
It's gone really well.
joe rogan
Yeah, you started this social media campaign around the same time, is that what it was?
james colossus thompson
A social media campaign?
joe rogan
Yeah, with the videos, the bars...
james colossus thompson
Oh, right, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But basically, I got confidence in my writing.
I think I'm a good writer.
I get extra credit because I look the way I do, and I'm an MRA fighter, so they think, oh, we'll have a go, and then, oh, we can string a sentence together.
I'll take that extra credit.
joe rogan
It's fun writing.
You have fun with it.
It's cool.
Colossal Concerns, it's called, right?
james colossus thompson
Yeah, Colossal Concerns.
I've got my website.
joe rogan
Colossal Concerns.
Where can they get it?
What is the actual website?
james colossus thompson
I've got a website.
It's the Colossal Collective.
ColossalCollective.com.
joe rogan
So it's Colossal Concerns, not Colossus Concerns.
james colossus thompson
Oh yeah, I always get that wrong.
My missus goes mad at me every fucking time.
I get it wrong constantly on every fucking video I've done.
Everything.
joe rogan
We got it right.
james colossus thompson
Hang on, so what did I say?
ColossalCollective.com.
That's where my blogs, my podcast...
No, that's my blog.
ColossalCollective.
It's all in one place.
joe rogan
ColossalCollective.
brian redban
Yeah, because this website I'm looking at right now is colossalconcerns.com.
james colossus thompson
Yeah, it's Colossal Collective.
joe rogan
So Colossal Collective has everything?
Dude, you're like a collective.
james colossus thompson
You are a collective.
You're a living collective.
That's what it's all about.
joe rogan
Yeah, I guess, right?
It is about marketing yourself, right?
james colossus thompson
No, definitely.
joe rogan
Did you feel like in Japan they had a different attitude towards people winning and losing than anywhere else in the world?
james colossus thompson
Massively, because it's part of their culture.
joe rogan
Yeah.
james colossus thompson
It's a samurai and it's fighting spirit.
Like my first fight, it's a fucking joke.
Running across the ring at a guy, you know, knock him over and he kicks my ass.
It's a fucking joke.
But what did they appreciate?
They appreciated that I fucking gave it everything and it was something different.
And in America, I'm a joke.
Okay.
But they gave me another chance, the Japanese, and I won my next couple of fights, and that gave me a chance to keep going, which I appreciate.
joe rogan
Well, it's fascinating that you've seen both ends of the spectrum.
You've seen the Japanese way of doing things where you respect the people who show warrior spirit and try, and then you've seen America.
You've got to get you to the hospital.
We've got to get you to the hospital.
James Thompson has gone to the hospital.
Apparently, he's almost dead.
Kimbo almost beat him to death.
brian redban
And he's wearing Megan's.
james colossus thompson
Hey!
joe rogan
The video, the Megan's video.
Yeah, you have a campaign against skinny jeans.
Is that what it is?
james colossus thompson
Oh, well, it's men's fashion as a whole.
joe rogan
Men's fashion as a whole.
james colossus thompson
And fucking Alphanail.
joe rogan
Alphanail is created by the people.
It was originally created by the people that do Onnit.
james colossus thompson
Yeah, I know.
joe rogan
Sorry about that.
Sorry.
I made fun of them constantly.
james colossus thompson
Good.
joe rogan
Well listen, the guy, Aubrey, the guy I'm in business with is an awesome dude and it's a lot of guys in MMA wore makeup and wore nail polish, which is essentially makeup.
I mean, it is makeup.
I mean, it's makeup.
It's nail polish, but it's makeup.
What are you doing?
Not that colour of your toes.
Did you paint them that colour?
james colossus thompson
So your toenails don't crack.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's what they say.
But some guys actually do have, like, I think Frank Trigg might have been the one who started out.
He had, like, problems with his toenails.
I don't believe it.
unidentified
Tate Fletcher used to always have his fingers crossed.
joe rogan
It was a thing that happened for a while when MMA sort of was, like, starting to...
And some guys still do it.
I notice it in fights.
Some guys still have their toenails painted.
james colossus thompson
Guys can do whatever they want, but I did this and obviously it's tongue and cheek.
But, you know, people can wear whatever the fuck they want.
But I do think men's fashion...
joe rogan
Yeah, and what we're saying, what you did, there's a video, it's men against meggings, right?
Yeah, men against meggings.
It's pretty funny, man.
You take the meggings off and you burn them.
Is that like those leggings pants?
james colossus thompson
Well, they're lycra.
joe rogan
They're lycra?
james colossus thompson
They're lycra.
They're like fucking tights for men, but they call themselves leggings.
You call them meggings.
That's a clever fucking twist.
joe rogan
Oh, right.
And men wear them on the street?
They walk around with them on?
You're not talking about the gym, right?
james colossus thompson
No.
joe rogan
Because a lot of guys wear them for training.
james colossus thompson
Don't get defensive.
joe rogan
Yeah, because I wear those for training.
And I'm like, am I a megging wearer?
james colossus thompson
Listen, at the end of the video, it's me being comfortable.
brian redban
Look at that sweet little touch in those meggings.
joe rogan
It's the Andy Dick show.
james colossus thompson
Oh, Joe, come on.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a good look for you.
I don't know why you're not embracing it.
So you take...
brian redban
Look at that battle room.
joe rogan
What do these guys, when they have these magings, where do they put their wallet and shit?
james colossus thompson
That's a good question, Joe.
joe rogan
No fanny pack?
brian redban
They're scared of a fanny pack.
james colossus thompson
Maybe that's the next step.
joe rogan
I'm not scared of a fanny pack.
I wear a fanny pack at the airport.
I do all the time.
I still do.
People see me with one.
They go, are you serious?
I'm like, yeah, I'm fucking serious.
Fanny packs are where it's at.
If you're not trying to get laid, and you're just carrying shit around, what do you care?
Why wouldn't you put a fanny pack on?
james colossus thompson
Yeah, I wear leggings.
joe rogan
Exactly.
james colossus thompson
You fancy leggings?
joe rogan
No.
That's where I draw the line.
james colossus thompson
God, that's what I'm saying.
That's where we need to draw the line.
joe rogan
But if you want to let everybody know that you're gay...
Wear the Meggings.
It's a good move.
I would say if you're a gay guy, you're letting people know what's up.
james colossus thompson
And the fucking ass cheeks.
joe rogan
Nothing wrong with that.
That's what they like.
Don't you like that?
Girls with yoga pants?
They like it too.
Your cock's all plastered to the side of your...
A little megging leg.
A light blue, like an ocean blue, like something you might see in the bay in Hawaii.
james colossus thompson
I can see that.
joe rogan
Just a nice, delicious, light blue meggings with your cock three-quarters hard pinned to the side of your leg.
brian redban
Belly button piercing.
joe rogan
That's what I'm talking about.
Belly button piercing.
A dude with a belly button piercing.
Suspect number one.
james colossus thompson
On a ponytail.
joe rogan
Hey, who blew those people?
Is that a guy with a belly button ring?
Let's talk to him.
Alright, James Thompson.
It's been a fun time, man.
james colossus thompson
I've enjoyed it, mate.
It's been a bit surreal.
joe rogan
It's been great.
It's been fantastic.
Best of luck to you, man.
If you ever need us to promote anything, you want to get anything out there, and you want to come back and do it again, you want to tell some more stories, anything.
james colossus thompson
At J Colossus Twitter.
joe rogan
J Colossus Twitter.
james colossus thompson
And James, the Colossus Thompson for our Facebook.
joe rogan
But Colossal Concerns, if you're looking for the blog.
Colossal Collective.
ColossalCollective.com, Colossal Concerns is the blog.
J Colossus.
james colossus thompson
That's right, that's me.
joe rogan
That is you on Twitter.
Okay, so...
brian redban
And what are you on Grindr?
james colossus thompson
Oh, I've got to give a...
joe rogan
Hey, easy!
You son of a bitch.
You son of a bitch.
You got what else?
What do you have to say?
james colossus thompson
I can't remember.
What are you saying about brain damage?
joe rogan
About what?
james colossus thompson
Brain damage.
joe rogan
Brain damage.
It's not good for you?
james colossus thompson
No, that's very true.
joe rogan
Makes you gamble.
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Alright folks, we will see you next...
Well, we'll see you next show will be tomorrow with...
Powerful Brian Callen.
And then we also have a show with Dana White on Thursday.
And then Friday night, we've got the comedy show with Mad Flavor, who is also known as Joey motherfucking Diaz, and me.
And we will be at The Grove in Anaheim.
If you go to JoeRogan.net, you can find out all the ticket information.
And that's it, freaks.
We love the shit out of you, and we'll see you tomorrow, and we appreciate you very much.
Thank you.
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