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Dec. 17, 2012 - The Joe Rogan Experience
02:49:06
Joe Rogan Experience #299 - Honey Honey
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ben jaffe
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brian redban
05:59
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joe rogan
01:42:40
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suzanne santo
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joe rogan
Listen to me, you dirty fucks, because I'm only going to say this once.
The end of the world show.
There's 68 fucking tickets left.
They're probably all spread out.
You're probably not going to get to sit with your buddies, but you're going to have to deal with that shit, okay?
That's how the world works.
If you don't get your shit together early and get the tickets, you're going to have to live in the fucking boonies for the show.
You're going to have to...
Just go out there, get your freak on, sit with some other people.
They will probably be wearing Death Squad t-shirts.
unidentified
You'll be fine!
joe rogan
Honey Honey Band, Joey motherfucking Diaz, Doug Stanhope, and moi.
12-21-2012.
Will it really be the end of the world?
Who the fuck knows?
No one's ever predicted anything right, ever.
Do you know that?
Do you know that?
Okay, and if the Mayans were so clever, where the fuck are they now?
Exactly.
I don't know.
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brian redban
I need instant boner pills.
I don't need this long-term one.
joe rogan
Well, you need that stuff that you were taking, which was basically some of a Viagra.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
They kind of, like, fudge it.
According to Aubrey, Aubrey explained to us how these boner pills work.
When you buy, like, those at the supermarket or drugstore or whatever, those actually do work.
And one of the reasons why they work is because a lot of these companies, they take and they buy...
I forget the exact chemical name for Viagra, but whatever it is, they buy that stuff in bulk, and then they throw it in their supplements.
So yeah, you take it, you get a boner, because it's Viagra, you fuck.
brian redban
Because I guess there's like this loophole where the FCC, or not the FCC, but the FDA. A. Yeah, NWA. Food and Drug Administration.
Yeah, they give you like a warning.
joe rogan
Yes.
brian redban
You know, if they catch you.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's like a little fine.
And then if you get busted again, like the third time, apparently it's big.
brian redban
Yeah, and then you just change the company.
joe rogan
So that's what the boner pills are.
We don't have anything fake, okay?
Everything we're selling, especially in regards to supplements...
It's very important.
Brian and I sort of agreed this.
When we first started taking on sponsors, we didn't want to take on anybody shady.
We've passed on people.
We've had some offers that would have paid us money.
We were like, I don't think we should be involved with that.
We only want to be involved with people that are doing legit, honorable things.
One of the coolest things on it is...
The supplements are very good.
They're the highest quality available.
But if you don't like, if you order 30 pills of AlphaBrain, you try it, you say this doesn't do anything for me, you can get 100% of your money back.
You don't have to return the product.
You just say this shit sucks.
That's how, first of all, how confident we are that what we're selling you actually works.
If you're a mess and your health is not in order, you've got to deal with that first before you think about any of the effects of supplements, especially something subtle and although effective like nootropics.
You've got to get your body together.
Eat healthy.
Drink a fuckload of water.
If you're taking opiates, stop.
If you're smoking cigarettes, please try to stop.
Drink a fuckload of water.
What is that?
brian redban
Don't take this.
If you ever find this boner, don't take it.
joe rogan
That's not good?
brian redban
No, because I thought it was good because the guy said it was awesome, but look at the bottom right.
It says one capsule for three days.
I had a boner for three days, so don't do that.
joe rogan
Oh, well, you know what that means?
Apparently, the way it works is there's Viagra, but then there's Cialis, and Cialis will last like a couple of days.
So that's probably what they put in that one.
brian redban
That's not a good idea.
joe rogan
They're selling you some fucking drugs and they're sneaking them in.
Well, that's the thing about supplements.
It's a funky thing because the government, although obviously they don't do the best job of regulating the dangerous chemicals and actual pharmaceutical...
Because there's a lot of them that wind up being really dangerous.
A lot of them that they pass, that people wind up dying from and getting strokes.
I mean, we've all heard those late night lawsuits where someone who was on X drug during the period of this year and that year when it snuck through and something was really bad for you.
But the supplement industry, it's not really regulated at all.
It's really kind of a Wild West situation.
That's why it's really difficult when it comes to something like a nootropic.
It's like, does this really work?
Is this real?
On Onnit.com, if you go there, there's a science page that explains all of the clinical studies that have been done on the various ingredients and what's good about them and what's been shown, how they've been shown to improve people's test scores.
Anecdotal evidence, I'm a huge fan of it.
Poker players, a lot of poker players, love Alpha Brain.
It's just another thing that you should be doing to keep your body functioning at an optimal level.
It's not the one thing that's going to fix you, but it is another thing that will help you.
It is all the various nutrients that support the brain's production of human neurotransmitters.
And even Dennis McKenna was impressed by our ingredients, which was very exciting.
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We have too many sponsors today.
brian redban
Do you have any more?
joe rogan
Yeah, we have a fucking shitload.
You want to say something?
brian redban
Yeah, I just got my Ting phone.
joe rogan
Yes, Ting's our next sponsor.
How crazy.
I said, that's our next sponsor.
brian redban
Oh, sweet, because they finally gave me one of these Samsung Galaxy S3s, which I've been playing around like crazy with.
It's great, man.
That fucking big screen really is a big difference.
unidentified
I told you.
joe rogan
It's a game changer.
When you go online, it's a game changer.
Apple, you fucked up.
You should have just admitted that you fucked up and went with the bigger screen.
Who's working over at Apple now?
Steve Jobs probably would have went with the bigger screen.
brian redban
And you know what feels great about it, because I'm going to be using it as my second phone, is that if you don't want to pay for it, you could just lower your minutes down to almost nothing per month.
I think the lowest, it was like six bucks a month for having just nothing.
joe rogan
How many minutes is it?
brian redban
I think you pay per minute when you're down at six bucks a month.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
So it's like when you're in a foreign country.
brian redban
Yeah.
So you could just pretty much fall off the face of the planet with that phone if you want.
joe rogan
You know, I know a lot of people are down to no phone calls.
They're like, oh, you text me.
If you call them up, they don't answer.
And it says, hey, don't leave me a message.
Leave me a text.
I don't listen to my voicemails.
I know like 10 people that rock it like that.
What 10 is, what Brian's talking about...
And unfortunately, Honey Honey is just sitting here staring.
suzanne santo
No, we're absorbing all this information.
joe rogan
There's nothing to absorb.
There's nothing here.
brian redban
But they have badass phones, and they're pretty much unlocked on Ting's network.
So you can pretty much just get a sweet phone.
You don't have to have any contract.
You go there, and I think if you put in, what is it, Ting slash Joe?
joe rogan
It's rogan.ting.com.
If you go to rogan.ting.com, first of all, you save $50 off of any of these really sweet Android phones.
They have the Note as well, which is that Samsung fucking giant tablet phone.
That thing is huge.
It's so ridiculous.
It's so awesome, though.
I must possess it.
suzanne santo
It's like walking around with an iPad in your pocket.
joe rogan
When I look at it, I get envy, because people at shows, they come and they take pictures with me after the shows, and so many of them have that note, and I always go, ooh, I wish I had your phone.
I want your phone.
I've got phone envy.
But the Galaxy S3 is the phone envy.
I'm fine with that.
That one's fine.
It doesn't really need to be any bigger.
But the iPhone, it leaves me lacking.
I'm sad.
brian redban
Do you remember, we've had phone envy for so long, me and you, you would have the E715, we're like, oh my god, they just released the E815, like the Motorola, the flip phones.
joe rogan
Yeah, those little stupid phones.
But I took a great fucking picture with that phone, one of the greatest pictures I've ever took in my life.
brian redban
The hooker.
joe rogan
The hooker.
We were working in downtown LA, and it's not the downtown LA of today, which is, what's that word?
What's that word when they move into a neighborhood?
Gentrifying?
brian redban
Black cloud?
joe rogan
Black cloud?
Or white cloud?
This woman was walking by, and she was eating a meatball sub, and she had a wig on, and she was an overweight African American hooker.
And I looked at her, and she goes, how you doing?
I go, what's up, baby?
And she pulls a tit out.
As I'm taking a picture of her with a meatball sub in one hand and a tit in the other.
And it's perfectly framed.
Like, if I was a conspiracy theorist, I would say, well, this was fake.
This is obviously Photoshop.
This never really took place.
Did you print it out?
I think it's online, right?
Can you find it?
brian redban
Pull it up.
joe rogan
Oh, it's a woman's breast.
It's not even pornographic.
Oh, yeah.
brian redban
It's disturbing looking.
joe rogan
Listen, you can see a male's breast.
Why can't you see a woman's breast?
You know what's fascinating?
You can see Chaz Palminteri's breast.
Did you know that?
ben jaffe
I didn't know that.
joe rogan
Yes.
Not Chaz Palminteri.
Chaz Bono.
I get him confused.
ben jaffe
Not the surprise.
joe rogan
The Bronxdale.
unidentified
I bet you can see that too.
joe rogan
I bet you can see his as well.
He's a man.
No disrespect to Mr. Palminteri.
It was a slip.
I meant Chaz Bono, who used to be...
It used to be Chassidy Bono, and then it's the famous daughter of Cher and got a sex change.
Well, there was like these photos of her walking down the beach topless, because now she's a man.
Now she's got like a beard, so she's allowed to walk topless.
So she's taking advantage of that.
She's walking topless.
That's her.
That's her.
That's the girl.
That's the lady.
That is a real picture.
Pull that shit up all the way.
Ustream is with us.
ben jaffe
Don't worry.
joe rogan
Brad will be fine with it.
Don't do it, Brian.
unidentified
I'll do that.
joe rogan
Just show them the meatball sub.
Just the meatball sub in her hand.
Come on.
How does that happen?
The photo's perfectly framed.
Listen, you can Photoshop one.
Make a copy of that.
Make a copy of that and just put a little blurry over the nipple.
That'll only take you a second to do, right?
Can you do that, Brian?
Fucking silly bitch.
The folks that are listening to this are not getting the full experience.
But you could find...
What is the video?
brian redban
If you just type blackhookerrogan...
joe rogan
There you go.
That's my girl.
Greatest picture I ever took.
And I took one of those stupid flip phones.
So the phones that Ting has are far superior.
They're the best Android phones that you could buy.
brian redban
Can you imagine the areolas on those phones?
joe rogan
They must be crazy.
It would be so crystal clear.
Then people would really say that I faked it.
It's an awesome company.
They don't have contracts.
They have really reasonable rates.
And if you don't use all the minutes in your plan, they refund you the money on the next bill.
brian redban
That's tits.
joe rogan
They knock your next bill down.
It's like the best company.
They're ethical.
They're not evil.
It's possible to run a business and not be evil.
It's possible to provide an excellent service, which, by the way, is off the Sprint backbone.
They're on the Sprint backbone, so you're getting Sprint coverage.
It's not like fucking Fred's cell phone service.
It's like legit.
It's a huge nationwide network that's really excellent.
And it's CDMA, which I prefer to GSM. GSM is AT&T. I have both, but AT&T works better overseas.
Most people accept it overseas.
But CDMA, I find like Verizon and Sprint, I find it just seems to be a better coverage.
That's just where we live.
Rogan.ting.com.
Go there, save yourself 50 bucks, you dirty fucks.
brian redban
You know that video game's pretty badass that I've been playing.
joe rogan
Yes, Kerosene Games.
This is our last sponsor.
Bladeslinger is this game that Kerosene Games...
We, you know...
We want to make sure, again as we said, that anything we get involved with is something that we would actually use, something that we would actually enjoy, and something that is coming from a really good place.
There's a lot of video games that they make for the iPad that really are not really iPad games.
They're like PC games that they port over to it.
And they kind of suck.
A lot of them suck.
The way that this company, Kerosene Games, that makes Bladeslingers, they've made this game from the ground up for iPads and iPhones.
So it's very intuitive touch controls.
And with the ability that they have, these processors, For these iPads now and phones, that was always an issue with computer games back in the day.
It was like, could your video card handle it?
You know, like really stunning graphics.
Remember playing Quake and those games when video cards were first coming out and people would have dual SLIs where they would have two video cards just to power the graphics.
Well, these fucking iPads are so powerful now.
I mean, you can see really amazing graphics on an iPad.
It's really nuts.
We live in strange times.
brian redban
Did you just say an iPad?
joe rogan
iPad.
I didn't say that.
I just repeated you.
iPad, goddammit.
Slip of the tongue.
The game is called Blade Slimmer.
This is their first game.
It will be out for the...
Android operating system in January or February, and it will probably only work on the more advanced Android phones, like the newer.
Because Android, you know, they have like Ice Cream...
What is it?
Ice Cream Sundae or something like that?
They have a bunch of weird names for their operating systems.
So as long as you have the latest shit, it'll probably work if it's a good one.
But again, the game is Blade Slinger.
It's a fucking badass game.
It's only $2.99, which I think is very reasonable.
brian redban
You know, I think it's on sale right now.
joe rogan
Oh, that's right.
That's right.
It's on sale for 99 cents.
brian redban
Yeah, so I think the end of the year, you should totally buy it now.
It's 99 cents.
What the fuck is...
If you can give a homeless person a dollar, you can buy a game that will...
joe rogan
Yeah, that's ridiculous.
That's amazing.
I didn't know that it...
Yeah.
I didn't even think about it that way.
brian redban
You know?
joe rogan
Like a homeless guy on a dollar.
unidentified
Yeah.
brian redban
Like, this is something that you will enjoy.
That homeless guy is just going to be like, ooh, a dollar...
joe rogan
Yes, exactly.
And this game...
What the fuck are you talking about?
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
If you go to kerosengames.com forward slash bladeslinger, there's a really cool preview.
We could actually show it here, and it'll look good, as opposed to at my stupid studio, which has shit internet bandwidth.
I have a new studio, but the internet sucks, a fat one.
So we're here.
unidentified
Oh, dear.
joe rogan
That's why we're here.
Where's the new studio?
It's in Points Unknown.
unidentified
Understood.
joe rogan
I can't tell the people on the internet where the fuck your studio is.
Where's the phone number, man?
I just want to call and talk to you.
Anyway, go there.
Go check it out.
Go fuck yourself.
Okay.
Honey Honey's here.
God damn it.
brian redban
Do you want to look at a little video of that Blade Singer?
joe rogan
Sure.
Put it on.
brian redban
Oh, wait.
Never mind.
There's an advertisement.
joe rogan
Kerosene Games, listen to me.
Take that fucking ad off.
You're selling a video game and you're going to have an ad in the front of it.
They're fucking you, man.
They're ruining your click-through rates.
brian redban
This doesn't have one.
Here we go.
So this is the game graphics, actually.
Which looks to me almost like an Xbox and a PS3. I hope that's not the real narrator.
That's not the narrator.
This is a four-year-old kid.
unidentified
One of the things we want to call attention to here...
joe rogan
Oh, this is just like one of those where it's a preview of the game.
It's not like a trailer or anything.
brian redban
Yeah, but it's cool.
You use your iPad to swipe and do certain signs when you're attacking and stuff like that, but the graphics are amazing.
It's a fun game, and I think they're going to be adding on to it because it's a game that I see has a good future where they can just add new maps and stuff like that because they already have the groundwork down.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Powerful Bladeslinger.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Go check it out.
Like I said, it's a dollar now.
That's the latest.
So they're very happy with it.
It's until December 29th or so.
And then it'll return to its normal price.
So right now...
Is this for your cell phone?
Get it for a buck.
You are not paying attention at all.
unidentified
I am!
joe rogan
We're selling people.
We're selling souls.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Souls $1.
suzanne santo
This is some seriously high technology.
joe rogan
Honey, honey is here.
Brian, cue the music.
Let's get the party started.
That was probably a long-ass series of commercials.
unidentified
The Joe Rogan experience.
joe rogan
Our commercials are long, they're wordy, but we get them out of the way.
And then once they're done, they're done.
brian redban
But shorter than Tom Segura and Christina Pazitsky's podcast.
joe rogan
They have longer commercials than us?
brian redban
Yeah, every time I count to where they actually start the show, it's like 26 minutes in.
joe rogan
They do it the same style where they just start talking and then they sort of fuck around and go off on tangents.
brian redban
And then go back to tour dates and stuff.
joe rogan
It's weird.
That's how we started it.
It's a good way to do it, though, I think.
They keep trying to pressure me to put commercials inside of podcasts, and I keep telling them to go fuck themselves.
suzanne santo
You mean candidly and casually?
joe rogan
No, they bring it up.
They say, we'd like you to start introducing commercials in the middle of the podcast, and they can be pre-recorded, and we'll stick them in afterwards, but that seems sleazy.
It seems like it interrupts the flow of the conversation, right?
You guys hammered yet?
suzanne santo
I feel warm.
I feel pretty good.
joe rogan
Getting toasty?
Yeah, we're drinking Maker's Mark.
Shout out to my boy Justin, who loves this shit.
suzanne santo
Hey Justin.
joe rogan
My friend Justin, every time we go out, he orders this shit.
Makers.
Makers and Coke.
suzanne santo
Why put the coke in it, though?
Why not just go right with the makers?
joe rogan
Because he's seven feet tall and he does whatever the fuck he wants.
Trust me.
suzanne santo
I would still shoot him straight.
joe rogan
Justin wants to put coke in his makers.
You just let him.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
He's the biggest human I know.
brian redban
I like coke zero.
suzanne santo
I like he's a slow mover.
joe rogan
Well, you might be able to outrun him.
It might be.
But goddamn, when he caught you, you'd be in fucking lots of trouble.
I have a friend who's a true giant.
Really sweetheart of a guy.
suzanne santo
This is the dude?
joe rogan
Yeah.
He's a true giant.
He's enormous.
He talks like a normal guy, but he's just a huge fucking guy.
That's funny how people are just not created equal.
There's dudes like that.
suzanne santo
There's a whole...
Our tour manager is 6'7", and he talks about that a lot.
He's like, it's really difficult.
You know, you go to, like, when we're on tour, you're at the holiday, and he's like, and the shower only comes up to my chest between my nipples.
Like, you know, it's a whole...
He's big and tall, you know what I mean?
He can never find pants that fit him, you know, the way he'd like to...
To represent pants.
joe rogan
I was watching TV today, and there was a fight from 2009 with this guy, Semi Schilt.
Semi Schilt used to be the K-1 Grand Prix champion.
I think he's won it at least three, if not four times.
He's 6'11".
suzanne santo
Oh my God.
joe rogan
6'11", 300 pounds.
It's just like, good luck.
Go fight that guy.
He's a fucking legit giant.
I mean, he really is a giant.
suzanne santo
Yeah, but isn't like small and mighty, though?
Like, what about that guy?
joe rogan
Not once the big guys learn how to fight.
suzanne santo
Okay.
joe rogan
Once the big guys learn how to fight, too.
The idea is that the small man with skill can overcome the big man who has no skill.
I still maintain that most of the time that's accurate, but a big man with skill is a fucking pain in the ass.
suzanne santo
Yeah, but aren't the big ones like the stupid ones?
unidentified
Absolutely.
joe rogan
You would like to think that.
Everybody would like to think that good-looking guys are stupid, too.
Well, good-looking women, a lot of people would like to think they're stupid.
Nobody wants to think there's a girl who's way hotter than you and also way smarter than you.
That's too...
That's depressing.
Yeah, it's depressing as fuck.
That bitch just got all aces.
You know, she was born with a bunch of aces.
suzanne santo
Boobs.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's not fair.
It's totally not fair.
But that's life.
ben jaffe
But then they have to deal with everybody trying to drag them down.
That must be tough.
joe rogan
Yeah, I would guess.
I would guess it would be really hard to be a hot chick, to deal with a lot of cunty women.
I've seen women get cunty with pretty girls for no reason.
Someone will come up and ask for directions or something like that.
I've seen cunty women just immediately going, do you know where you're going?
How much do you know this area?
You know, like, immediately dismissive.
Fuck you, Big Tits.
Yeah, like, that girl's stealing something from her by existing, by being in front of her.
She's not a sister.
She's not, you know, a fellow human to be.
That's like someone who's taking away from your value by their very existence.
You know?
I knew a girl who got furious at a guy because he brought a really hot girl to her wedding.
And everybody was paying attention to the girl.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
So yeah, she literally said, you know, she was like yelling at him.
Why the fuck did you bring that bitch to my wedding?
And me and the girl was like a sweetheart.
She was a very nice girl.
Didn't do anything to anybody.
But just because she was there.
She dressed nice and apparently she was very beautiful.
And the bride was furious.
Like it took away from her big day.
And she kept saying, that fucking bitch she took away from my big day.
Isn't that amazing?
suzanne santo
God, the whole wedding thing fucking freaks me out.
That pressure of it needing to be this huge monumental thing.
joe rogan
She's a crazy bitch.
That guy should get a divorce immediately.
What's her name?
Where does she live?
He told me the whole story.
My buddy told me the whole story.
I was not there, but it was a fascinating story.
It's like animals, you know?
I've had females, female dogs.
Female dogs do not like other female dogs.
They just don't like each other.
suzanne santo
The dog world is fascinating.
joe rogan
They will fight to the death.
suzanne santo
If we were able to communicate with each other like dogs were, we would just be peeing on each other all day.
joe rogan
Yeah.
suzanne santo
And humping in public.
On the regular.
joe rogan
And trying to figure out who the alpha is.
Who gets to breed.
suzanne santo
It's amazing.
Who eats the liver.
Ben's dog.
Ben is a dog named Larry Bird.
That's awesome.
And Larry Bird is great.
He's fucking awesome.
joe rogan
That's awesome.
suzanne santo
Very, you know, he's really zen.
joe rogan
The dog is?
suzanne santo
He is, yeah.
He doesn't really bark at all.
He just, like, he wants to be scratched on the head.
Our very good friend of a friend found him on the freeway in Nashville.
And when we moved to town, Ben's been saying he wanted a dog.
And My buddy posted an ad on Facebook and said, hey, we have this dog.
We're looking for a good home.
He's got very long legs and kind of an awkward face, so the name Larry Bird came to mind.
joe rogan
That's funny.
What kind of dog is he?
ben jaffe
I think he's an Australian Shepherd.
joe rogan
Ah, okay.
I know what those look like.
ben jaffe
He's mid-sized, probably 45 pounds.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ben jaffe
But I don't know if he's zen or if he's just real stressed out all the time and shutting down.
suzanne santo
He gets very stressed when Ben leaves.
joe rogan
Yeah, I bet.
Well, you know, it's like all of a sudden he's got something good, you know?
He's got someone who cares for him and loves him.
I had a female like that.
I had a female that I adopted.
And she was eaten out of garbages when I got her.
She was all covered in mange.
And I took her in and started feeding her and taking care of her.
But she would have massive anxiety when I would leave.
She wouldn't know what to do.
She would freak out because she didn't think I was coming back, you know?
When you get down to that point, she was starving to death when I found her, literally.
In downtown LA, she was just eating out of garbage cans.
ben jaffe
You've got to think, dogs have access to so much joy.
Those things are so happy sometimes.
joe rogan
If you get lucky.
ben jaffe
They must have just as bummed out.
joe rogan
Well, it's like humans too.
It's like if you get lucky, you could grow up in a really awesome household where your mom and dad love you and they want to see you all the time.
And you're growing up with people that have sort of a sense of perspective and they can educate you on the ways of the world and constantly give you love.
Or you could grow up with a crazy fucking shithead mom and a nutty fucking violent abusive drug addict dad and you're fucked.
You're just fucked.
You were born into the wrong spot.
And there's nothing you did and your entire potential completely changes because of that.
Your entire way of absorbing the world, of even just dealing with reality.
It's compromised by this situation that you were born into with no effort of your own, no karma behind it, no nothing.
You just were there.
Unless you believe in reincarnation.
Unless you believe in...
There's no fucking evidence to support any of that.
But the idea that people are responsible, especially babies, are responsible for terrible things that...
Happened to them because of things that they did in a past life.
I'd have to say, Jesus fucking Christ, how cunty is the universe?
How about you let a baby slide, you know?
Don't punish him from some shit that some other entity had done in a past life.
That's so ridiculous.
It's a super sad aspect of this world.
Your life could be awesome or it could be shit.
And it's just dependent on who gives birth to you and where you are, you know?
Yeah, I mean, we're lucky as fuck.
suzanne santo
Well, great.
I'm crying.
joe rogan
We are lucky as fuck.
You and I, all of us here, and to live in America, to live in 2012 in America, with fucking medicine and doctors and the internet and all this shit, you know?
suzanne santo
Well, it's interesting how our challenges change as, you're right, like, it's kind of a...
It's weird.
One of my best friends in Ohio, he got really mad about his cell phone bill.
He found out that since, I don't know, 2007 or something, he paid T-Mobile $5,000, which is, I think, normal if you were to add that up.
And he was like, this is ridiculous.
He's like, I want to spend my money on other things.
So he stopped using a cell phone for three months.
He didn't have a cell phone.
He used a landline or would communicate through email and he was telling me how difficult it was but how incredibly liberating.
And not that that's a problem.
I'm kind of segueing into just like you were talking about how we've evolved.
And technology makes everything so easy.
You could take care of things at your house right now with your cell phone because you have robots there.
But it's so interesting.
I've always been fascinated with people who could Who were incredibly resourceful with nature, like Boy Scouts and stuff like that.
Like just to go home and make a fire right now.
joe rogan
Rub and sticks together and shit.
suzanne santo
I whittled myself a coffee table.
And I find that to be incredibly fascinating.
I really actually in some spare time would like to learn a few tips if anybody has any.
joe rogan
You want to be like a subsistence...
suzanne santo
Well, I want to know how to make my own bow and arrows.
Really?
joe rogan
Have you ever watched any of those shows, like Alaska shows, where these people are like homesteaders out there and they gather all their food within the summer months and then they fucking freeze their dicks off for like eight months out of the year?
suzanne santo
No, I haven't seen that.
joe rogan
Amazing!
If you're into that, if you're talking about people living off the land and trying to survive out there, it is a fucking fascinating show.
suzanne santo
It's crazy.
joe rogan
And this is generations after generations.
These people just live like that.
suzanne santo
There's this level of awareness and oneness with nature that I think is so cool.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
suzanne santo
When you know something, you're just like you're in the earth.
And so, obviously, I don't really have too much experience with that.
I'm really good at fishing.
I like to fish.
joe rogan
Are you good?
Really?
suzanne santo
Yeah, I'm good at it.
I know how to catch them.
joe rogan
Oh, you like the shit.
You're ready for Bass Pro Masters tournaments and shit?
unidentified
I can hang.
suzanne santo
Not really.
joe rogan
Bass Masters.
suzanne santo
No, I do like to fish, though.
joe rogan
Fishermen make a fuckload of money.
Did you know that?
Like, professional fishermen?
suzanne santo
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, you can make a great living if you're, like, a famous fisherman.
suzanne santo
Yeah.
joe rogan
How hilarious is that?
This famous fisherman.
suzanne santo
I think we should try.
You want to try with me?
joe rogan
Start entering tournaments.
I mean, you're in Nashville.
There's, like, some great bass fishing down in that area.
ben jaffe
It's a competition, though.
joe rogan
I think the world record's from the South.
suzanne santo
That's the same thing though, that whole oneness.
That just becomes part of their receptive faculties as they know the fucking water.
They know about the fish.
They know what's going on.
They know they don't like that kind of tackle.
That lure doesn't work.
joe rogan
Yeah, it certainly becomes, you know, you have this connection with this animal that you're going after, trying to figure out how to keep pulling them out of their world by tricking them with fake fish.
You know, what a ruthless fucking game fishing is.
You throw out this impossibly beautiful, wiggling, sparkly thing that makes some poor fish just want to go bite it.
And he bites it and gets literally pulled out of the dimension he exists in to another dimension that he can't survive in.
He can't move.
He can't fly around in it like he can in the water.
All of a sudden he's in air and like, what the fuck is going on?
And if you pulled him...
Right.
And if it's deep enough water, they'll die just from the pressure.
Just from going through the deep, deep, deep water to the surface.
They'll be like...
Like, they can't even handle it.
Like, what are we doing out here?
We're supposed to be at, like, 700 feet of water.
And just yank those fuckers up to the surface.
unidentified
They're just like...
suzanne santo
You're really ruining it for me now.
There goes my fishing boner.
joe rogan
No, listen, fishing is awesome.
I love fishing, but it's got to be a fucking, a real freak out for that poor barracuda.
You know, bites down on your lure.
suzanne santo
Barracudas aren't poor.
joe rogan
They're not?
They're rich?
suzanne santo
I don't know.
joe rogan
Are they like a...
suzanne santo
Yeah, they're definitely a top shelf fish, I think.
unidentified
They're tropical.
suzanne santo
I don't think...
joe rogan
I don't think people eat them that much.
There's that one song.
Yeah.
They're famous.
Yeah.
Did you ever, like, did you like Heart when you were a kid?
suzanne santo
What's that?
joe rogan
Did you like that band Heart?
Did you sing that song, Barracuda?
They had a bunch of great songs.
brian redban
I got some stuff.
I mean, they were crazy on you.
suzanne santo
I like heart, and yes, what do you have for me, Brian Redman?
Fucking bring that shit.
joe rogan
He has my Viagra shit.
suzanne santo
I just want to know, no disrespect to the Viagra pills and what have you, but what happened to the old-fashioned boners?
I mean, just a good old-fashioned boner.
joe rogan
Well, SSRIs killed a lot of them.
A lot of people on antidepressants have a huge problem getting wood.
brian redban
Oh, I have normal boners, but it's nice to have that five-hour boner when you just want to have a vacation.
joe rogan
Brian is just an abuser.
suzanne santo
A vacation boner?
brian redban
Yeah, once in a while you're like, alright, I'll take care of you.
suzanne santo
You're just trying to challenge yourself, really?
brian redban
Yeah, I want to see how much boner I can have.
suzanne santo
Olympic boner style?
brian redban
Like marathon boner sex.
suzanne santo
But here's my question.
Your partner, I mean, are they having sex for eight hours?
Because that sounds kind of painful.
brian redban
Well, he mostly sleeps.
joe rogan
He mostly sleeps.
Yeah, Brian just fucks dudes that are unconscious.
suzanne santo
Well played.
joe rogan
That's Brian's thing.
Just gives them GHP. He takes Viagra.
suzanne santo
I believe it's called bro rape.
unidentified
Bro rape.
joe rogan
You've got to be careful about that.
You can't even use that.
If you joke about rape, you support rape.
Did you know that?
brian redban
Yeah, stop.
joe rogan
Be careful, careful.
You know, one of the things I've noticed, I posted this on Twitter about a lot of lefties.
So uncomfortable.
There's a funny thing lately where, like, hardcore lefties, you know, what they like to call themselves progressives, they will criticize stereotypical Muslims in television and film.
Like, I saw these progressives that were criticizing Homeland.
The show?
Yeah, that all of the Muslim characters are cartoonish.
You know, and it's like, I find it offensive.
They're like, finding it offensive.
But it's hilarious that they would never do that with cartoonish Christians.
Like if there was like, you know, a TV show and all the Christians had God Hates Fags posters and were walking around, you would never hear progressions bitching about fundamentalist Christians that are represented in a cartoonish way.
But fundamentalist Muslims, it's like, oh, we have to be aware and conscious and we have to be like really sensitive To, like, these foreign people and their ideas?
Like, wackadoos that are brown, like, you have to be, like, really kind to them and show them kind.
But wackadoos that are white and look too much like your relatives, like, fuck them.
Fuck the Christians.
Fuck them.
Let them be as cartoonish as possible.
But you have to be super sensitive about the way people who, you know, Islam, it's not all terrorists, not Islam...
As if one ideology makes any more sense than another ideology.
Any of these fucking goofy cults make any sense.
Any of them.
But progressives, they don't want to criticize Islam lately.
It's like these cartoonish Muslim characters.
Okay?
That's not how I feel about culture.
ben jaffe
Isn't that just as much a cult as any of the other ones?
joe rogan
Being progressive is a cult, for sure.
The hardcore lefty stance is a cult.
I mean, there's shit that fits in and doesn't fit in.
It's like when it comes to gun control and these horrible fucking mass shootings that have been going on lately.
Everybody's answer is always gun control from the left.
And everybody from the right is they need to arm people.
To make sure that this can't happen because you're not going into an unarmed area.
If people had guns of their own, they would know that they couldn't just do this.
It's a complex issue.
But anyone from the left never recognizes that.
It's always gun control.
You fucking NRI people, are you happy?
You can fucking believe this shit.
Why do you need a gun?
Find a new hobby.
You don't need to hunt.
unidentified
Find a new hobby.
suzanne santo
Well, it's really interesting to...
Discuss this topic because we just moved to Nashville and that's a gun town.
There's guns everywhere and I have friends that carry concealed weapons.
There's this one girl, she's like this super hot chick and she's always got a little pistol in her purse, like no big deal.
joe rogan
Good for her.
suzanne santo
But I think that something that's, you know, maybe I'll tell you at a later date.
I think that You know, it's a really interesting feeling to be in a town, in a community with that.
And where I see it is that, like, we've heard all these stories of like, don't worry, mom, dad, I'm safe.
But, you know, like our friends of friends getting shot, people being, you know, shot several, like all these different stories.
And, you know, there's a lot of crime everywhere.
But They had this turn your gun in day to try and reduce the firearm population.
But at the end of the day, I'm not pro-gun or anti-gun.
I don't even know what I am.
But I was thinking about it.
And I'm like, the bad guys aren't going to turn their guns in.
Poor people are going to turn their guns in.
It's a noble cause to try and alleviate violence of any kind.
But at the same time, it's like they're already there.
And I just don't see how they could go away.
But I don't, I'm not making, fuck, that's like a strong statement.
joe rogan
No, well you're making a logical statement because the real issue is not whether or not we change the laws, it's whether or not people are willing to break those laws.
And the majority of crimes, violent crimes with guns, I believe in this country are committed with illegal guns.
So it's already this weird situation.
The kid who was in possession of these guns, these were his mother's guns.
I mean, you talk about gun control.
He violated a bunch of different laws before he ever left the house by just handling these guns and loading them and taking them out of there.
They weren't his to fuck with.
So he was violating laws, and then the question is, why do these things even exist?
Why does someone need an assault rifle?
Those are legitimate questions.
Those are questions that we really should consider.
There's no doubt about it.
But the idea that we need to take all guns away, that doesn't make any sense.
If people wanted to, look what Timothy McVeigh did with a truck and some fertilizer.
People want to.
They can kill people in a bunch of different ways with a bunch of different shit that you can get.
And there's plans for it on the Internet.
It's amazing.
We really stop and think about it.
How many people there are that there's 300 million of us, at least plus Mexicans in this country.
And we only have, you know, this many crazy people running around shooting people.
It's really kind of shocking.
It's amazingly good considering the numbers.
It's just when something does happen, it's so horrible and so heart-wrenching and, you know, it fucks with our heads.
The real statistics, though, if you think about how many people actually have guns...
And how many people are running around shooting people?
It's amazing.
It's amazing how behaved everybody is, for the most part.
If you just look at the actual numbers of human beings, this is a crazy time to be alive.
There's 300 million people in this continent, driving around in cars, getting stuck in traffic, and the amount of people that actually shoot people is relatively small.
ben jaffe
But when you compare it to other countries with stricter gun control laws, you see those numbers drop so much.
So that's a hard comparison.
joe rogan
But the issue is they've already had that.
It's like the question of how do you take the guns.
I mean, you'd have to go door to door.
You don't have to storm houses.
It's like, how would you eradicate the guns?
From our neighborhood the way they have in England.
In England, they never really had it.
So when you see low UK gun violence rates, it's like, yeah, they never really had the guns.
Even the cops don't have them.
They do.
They have them in case of extreme situations.
American Werewolf in London.
When the wolf gets out, that's when they bust it out.
You can't fuck with a werewolf when you've got a billy club.
unidentified
Silly bitch.
ben jaffe
But you need a silver bullet anyway.
joe rogan
I think there's arguments on both sides.
There's definitely arguments on both sides.
But you know what the other argument is?
The unsung discussion?
What was this kid on?
What was going on with his head?
Was he medicated?
Was he on who knows what from the time he was a child?
Do you know how many fucking kids get put on Ritalin?
Do you know how many fucking kids get put on antidepressants at a young age?
We live in strange times of...
Of just manipulating with human neurochemistry.
And especially when you're mixing things, which people do.
They'll take illegal drugs with legal drugs.
And it's a psychotic combination.
You know, Zoloft and cocaine.
It's famous for people going fucking berserk on it.
suzanne santo
I'm going to try that.
Just kidding.
Well, it's interesting.
joe rogan
We need to know what was wrong with this kid.
Whether he had a mental illness.
Whether he was medicated.
There was obviously something fucking really wrong with him.
Just to be able to do that.
Just to be able to do physically what he did and shoot kids.
There's got to be something way wrong with his wiring.
unidentified
I wonder...
suzanne santo
I was thinking about this the other day, about all these mass shootings and all the people responsible for them.
And I wonder if there were to be...
I mean, maybe they're already doing this and I'm foolish, I don't know.
But if you were to dissect their brains and literally if there was some sort of similar common thread of an excessive chemical or something...
brian redban
Like Hitler.
suzanne santo
What about Hitler?
brian redban
Finding out the bad, you know, like saying that there was a human race, like there's a right way to have a brain, you know what I mean?
Like you have to be blonde, blue eyes, you know, and anyone else, you know.
So you're saying find like a common trait.
joe rogan
Let him talk himself out of this place.
unidentified
I was like, I don't know what he's saying, and I was like, I can't tell if I'm going to laugh or he's really sincere.
brian redban
Finding a common trait of somebody that's fucked up in their head and putting him aside.
joe rogan
We need to get you back on the provigil, son.
brian redban
Give me some.
unidentified
Yeah.
brian redban
What do you got?
joe rogan
You got something right now?
suzanne santo
God, this is such a difficult thing to talk about because it's a...
joe rogan
It's horrific.
It's horrific.
suzanne santo
Because it's still, everybody's, you know, it's so painful.
And I think that at the end of the day, there isn't anything that we're going to find out or be able to fix it, whether it's gun control or anything other than trying to...
Trying to be, as a community, more aware of each other.
You know, we're talking about all these things about, like, at your fingertips, and, like, we're, you know, we've got cell phones that do everything for us, and nobody, like, I think people stop paying attention to things.
Like, just the most rudimentary level of human existence and communication of just, like, really seeing someone and being in touch with them.
And I think some people get isolated and more and more isolated.
And I don't fucking know.
I'll only speak for myself.
joe rogan
There's a lot of us.
And the problem is we can't be looking out for everybody around us when we're not even in contact with them.
We live in these communities where there's a guy who lives right down the street from you.
He's two houses down.
He wouldn't be able to pick him out in a lineup.
That's me.
I don't fucking know all my neighbors.
You know, I live in a community of people that are basically strangers, you know, and they're strangers to their community and that's not how it used to be.
There's something that happened to us when we invented automobiles and mass transit and the ability to move along great distances is we don't live and work close.
We don't have the same sort of community that people did before they had cars.
And that's sort of how human beings were invented, or rather how human beings developed.
We developed to grow up in these communities, tribes, where we all stuck together, we all hunted together, we farmed together, we gathered together, we raised each other's children.
And then someone figured out cars and it just stopped.
They just started like, let's live in the fucking east side and let's drive up across town.
I want to live in the suburbs.
I'd love to have a house in the mountains.
And then everybody was able to just go wherever the fuck they wanted to.
And then they would meet for work or go over each other's houses.
But the sense of community got further and further apart.
I've had this conversation with some of my friends.
I'm like, why don't we all live in the same neighborhood, man?
Why don't we do that?
Wouldn't that be awesome if you lived across the street from me?
Can't we make that happen?
Let's find a place.
suzanne santo
We'd be trying to play basketball with you all the time.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That would be fun.
Wouldn't it be amazing if you could literally live in a community of all of your friends?
I don't know anybody who does that.
Except there's these mixed martial arts guys in Sacramento, Uriah Faber, and all of his friends.
They've got a situation where they bought a bunch of houses in the same cul-de-sac, I think, and they just all live next to each other.
Which is awesome.
That's the way to do it.
suzanne santo
I agree.
I think that'd be really cool, but it's funny to talk about tribal existence, where many of us have come from.
I think we've all come from.
The tribal existence was everybody worked together as woven into the same cloth, but everybody had a job to do and an end to hold up.
And we're in a society where everyone's just an individual, you know, for the most part.
And it's really interesting to think about if we were going to, you know, to try to have like a communal type thing again.
I don't know.
joe rogan
Well, we would have to if we lost our ability to travel distances.
That would really fuck a lot of people up.
If something happened and society was thrown into chaos and we lost our ability to get oil and gas, it's not that far outside the realm of possibility.
If we look at the face of the earth, like when scientists start going into the past and see some of the cataclysmic events that have happened, Like, you know, the predate human beings.
There's been some big ones.
Like a lot of them.
Like a whole shitload of them.
And it's really possible that one could happen.
And if it did happen, we would lose all electricity.
Essentially forever.
For the rest of your life, there'd be no more electricity.
Because no one's going to be able to figure out how to fucking fix it without any real infrastructure available anymore.
And you'd have a few people that were surviving by living off the land.
You'd have a few people.
I mean, we could go back to that again.
Like...
That.
One super volcano, one asteroid.
There was an asteroid that just flew by, and the Chinese got these photographs of it.
I retweeted it.
It flies by every four years, and it's over a mile wide.
It's a mile wide piece of rock that flies really close to us every year, or every four years.
It's a mile and a half wide, sorry.
A mile and a half wide.
What the fuck?
suzanne santo
So basically what's going to happen is Friday, when the end of the world comes, and we've got some stragglers, which will clearly be the majority of the will turn.
I feel like this is a real hot spot for...
Survivors.
unidentified
Survivors.
suzanne santo
Yep, that's right.
So we're going to have to come up with a game plan of, you know, I'll bring the canned goods and...
ben jaffe
Make sure the ratio is good though.
I feel like there's going to be a lot of dudes.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's going to be a lot of sausage.
suzanne santo
We're going to have to bring a lot of booze.
joe rogan
Big sausage factory.
ben jaffe
Not many breedable females.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's the problem.
suzanne santo
Some board games.
joe rogan
We have to be real careful to really make sure we protect our genetics.
No, I mean, we really have the whole fate of the human race.
ben jaffe
So now you're talking like Hitler, though, right?
unidentified
That's right.
joe rogan
That's what I'm trying to say.
Hitler had a lot of good points.
He was just crazy.
If you had, like, I mean, look, if you had some real engineering of the human race, you would have to do some culling, right?
It's like when you have a thorn or a rose bush, and you have some fucking wacky branches, you gotta trim them bitches.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
We accept that.
We accept that scientifically.
We accept that in the nature world, the world of animals and plants, but we don't accept it with people.
We connect emotions to the most horrific and fucked up amongst us, and we don't even want to kill them.
We don't want to kill bad people.
We don't want to prune them.
The electric chair is barbaric.
Lethal injection is horrific.
We're no better than them.
What are you doing, son?
brian redban
Sorry.
I don't know why this just started playing.
joe rogan
Watching cowboy porn?
No.
brian redban
I was looking for that asteroid and then an ad came up on this website.
suzanne santo
Some dude just tweeted at us about a serial killer expert learns he has the brain of a killer.
I don't know.
I probably shouldn't even talk about this right now.
joe rogan
Yeah, I saw that.
That was a documentary.
Yeah, it was a guy who found out that he passed all the tests for being a sociopath or a psychopath, whichever one that is.
ben jaffe
I was going to bring this up earlier, too.
There's this article...
It says, I am Adam Lanza's mother.
It's about this woman, or excuse me, this woman is talking about her own son who has a lot of similarities between him and the shooter from Sandy Hook.
And there's all these, my phone's kind of freezing here, but it's talking about there's struggles with him and, you know, the diagnosis they're giving him, all the mood-altering drugs, and they just don't know how to handle a kid with this type of brain.
And that's when it comes back to, we've been talking about this a lot, just like, how do you approach the mental health aspect of this?
And it's such an inexact science.
It's like, how do you treat these kids if you don't really know what's going on, if the treatment is making them worse or better?
And that's kind of the gray area that we're stuck in it seems like.
joe rogan
Yeah, and we also don't understand why a person develops that way.
What makes a person a sociopath?
What makes a person a psychopath?
Is it nature?
Is it nurture?
You know, everyone's different.
There's different, there's a gradient, there's like a spectrum of different, there's people that are just a little crazy.
They're okay, but they're just a little crazy.
And then there's people that literally don't see reality the way we all agree it looks.
There's these people that you see them sitting on the side of the road, and they're talking to themselves, and they're covered in dirt, and they haven't washed in a year, and they're nodding back and forth and having conversations like, okay, what's that guy seeing?
What's going on?
I mean, he's having a fucking full-blown conversation with people that aren't even there.
What's going on?
What's going on there?
And we don't exactly know.
We know how to give them some drugs and make them not do that.
We know there's something wrong with his firing mechanism and his fucking noodle, but we don't exactly know what that guy's seeing.
He could tell us.
He might be lying.
He might be seeing some shit that he doesn't even like to talk about.
He might be seeing dragons and shit.
suzanne santo
Well, I think if you were to take a considerable amount of mushrooms, then you would know what he was seeing.
joe rogan
I doubt it.
suzanne santo
I say we try it.
unidentified
Yeah, well, I see your point.
joe rogan
The last thing you want to do is get locked into a homeless dude's way of thinking.
suzanne santo
Yeah, no, yeah.
joe rogan
You become him.
suzanne santo
I think I take it back.
joe rogan
Can you imagine?
People are pulling their brains out on LSD. Like that guy from Pink Floyd that they wrote that song Shine On You Crazy Diamond.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, that's apparently about a dude who lost his mind on some LSD. You could fuck up.
You could fuck up and go deep.
And Suzanne just got nervous and reached for the markers.
suzanne santo
Oh, no, that's not nervous.
That's just straight, I'm accessing my pleasure energy.
joe rogan
Your pleasure energy.
suzanne santo
How does that sound?
joe rogan
The booze energy, that's the pleasure energy.
suzanne santo
I do love it.
Everything's fine, guys.
Don't worry.
joe rogan
It's Monday.
Do you find there's a lot of resistance?
Do you talk about loving it?
You know what?
suzanne santo
Actually, I found this is really funny.
We talk about booze all the time because we're boozers.
I'm not an alcoholic, but I love bourbon.
I don't drink bourbon every day, but I talk about it because I'm comfortable that way.
We've had a few emails here and there.
Some dude was like, I saw you at your show when you were on tour, and you just looked so tired.
And look, drugs have torn into people.
And I was like, let's just go right over this again.
You saw me on tour, and I looked tired.
That is a shocker!
And kind of just had this whole...
Just slept in a van in a Wendy's parking lot.
It was very sweet, and I'm not going to throw him under the bus to be concerned.
joe rogan
Right.
suzanne santo
But it's...
joe rogan
Well, you know, from his point, there's a lot of people that think that the life of a showbiz person is just fucking drugs and barely keeping it together and stumbling onto stage the night that, you know...
suzanne santo
But, dude, I know...
I mean, at the same time, I'm fully aware of that side.
joe rogan
Like, I... It does exist.
suzanne santo
It totally, and you know, I'm sure, because it's like, when you're on the road, and you're just moving all the time, and you're never in the same place, you're never in this, like, you're fucking lonely, you know, you're, there's just so much going on, like, drinking, you know.
ben jaffe
There's a real comfort in repetition, too.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
ben jaffe
You know, because you're going to, you're in a different club every night, but there's always...
suzanne santo
And everybody wants to party with you.
joe rogan
Yes.
suzanne santo
But at the same time, I really...
I don't like...
I love to drink, but I don't like being wasted.
I don't like not being in control, and I don't like losing my voice.
So there's a balance.
I feel really lucky that I have a partner who is...
We do this together.
If one of us was slipping, there'd be a lot to handle, but we're pretty...
We're probably slipping down together.
ben jaffe
Yeah, it's just like a Slow, erosive.
joe rogan
It's nice that you can count on each other.
It's nice that you both keep your shit together.
suzanne santo
I remember one time when we first started touring together, Ben got really drunk, and he had really long hair, and I held his hair while he pute.
Aww, beautiful.
joe rogan
That's sweet.
suzanne santo
I tied it in a ponytail so he looked like a yoga instructor.
joe rogan
That's sweet.
suzanne santo
And then probably a few days later, I got a little drunk and I remember I passed out with my boots on.
ben jaffe
So I let a whole squad of these guys from the show in.
Just went to town on her.
suzanne santo
Yeah, that's really funny.
unidentified
It's technical.
joe rogan
I think you just contributed to rape culture.
unidentified
I know.
I'm not sure.
joe rogan
I was going to say it.
suzanne santo
I'm going to call you out.
unidentified
Really, Joe?
Really?
Oh, my God.
joe rogan
It's cool that you guys can count on each other, that you know that you're both in it to do the right shit, to get it done, that you're both in it to make great music.
It's like a lot of bands have an issue.
There's like five guys...
unidentified
There she is.
suzanne santo
Wow, that is a large ta-ta.
That's an amazing picture.
joe rogan
Come on, that is the picture.
That looks like it weighs like five pounds.
We had to block out the nipple because apparently it almost sunk CBS when Janet Jackson whipped one out.
Who knows what it could do to Ustream.
But this lady with her tit out, I did not ask her to do this.
This was the universe giving me a gift.
suzanne santo
Did it turn you on?
joe rogan
No.
Well, yes and no.
brian redban
It wasn't CeeLo Green the whole time.
joe rogan
Yes and no.
It did not turn me on.
It did not turn me on sexually, but it did turn me on socially because I knew I was going to post this online and people were going to go bananas.
I was very excited.
I was like, I have to show people.
This is going to give them great joy.
brian redban
I think this is the part where he started to lose his mind.
I remember that.
unidentified
I lost my mind.
Joe Logan came out and whipped out my titties.
Okay.
joe rogan
Brian, do you think she's alive now?
Because that was like 2005. If you had to guess, do you think that woman's alive?
suzanne santo
She's eating meatball subs every day.
I'm sure there's some cholesterol issues.
unidentified
Italians live forever.
suzanne santo
Do they?
Thank God.
joe rogan
Those motherfuckers, they live forever.
suzanne santo
That's good to know.
joe rogan
But that was a real moment for me.
unidentified
Thanks, Dad.
joe rogan
It was a great, great moment for me.
brian redban
I wish you had that on video, though.
joe rogan
Yeah, it would be.
It would be awesome.
brian redban
HD, Galaxy S3 video.
joe rogan
Yeah.
But then she'd probably sue me.
I wonder if she knows that picture's out there.
I wonder if someone's like, girl, do you know that your picture's online and your titties out and you got a meatball sub in your hand?
That ain't even me.
My wig don't look nothing like that.
That is not me.
That is not me, girl.
I'm telling you.
ben jaffe
That was a bitchy saying.
joe rogan
Girl, do you know that there's pictures of you.
unidentified
You got your titty out and a meatball sub in your hand.
joe rogan
And bitch, you look fat.
You look like Bigfoot.
Look at that gut.
Oh, that's a gut of a person who doesn't give a fuck.
She doesn't give a fuck.
brian redban
I think that's just a dick.
joe rogan
No, no.
That's not a dick.
That's a real tit, bro.
Look at that.
You can't make a fake tit like that on a man.
Fake tits on men always look odd.
And the nipples are never big enough.
And you know that that nipple's the correct size.
That's the thing about trannies.
Oh, by the way, that's another thing.
suzanne santo
Tell us what you know about trannies, Joe.
joe rogan
People are transphobic.
Did you know that, Brian?
That's a new issue.
Transphobia.
A lot of the progressives are going after people that are transphobic if you're making any jokes about trannies.
suzanne santo
Really?
joe rogan
Even saying trannies.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
We need to be more sensitive.
suzanne santo
I'm fascinated.
Did we talk about Buck Angel the last time we were on here?
I feel like we did.
joe rogan
We might not, but there's never enough talk about Buck Angel.
suzanne santo
We did a show with him.
joe rogan
No, you didn't.
suzanne santo
Yes, we did.
No, you didn't.
I'm telling you the truth.
We were in Toronto.
Toronto, Asia.
unidentified
Just kidding.
suzanne santo
It's in Canada.
And we were...
joe rogan
You confused the shit out of people.
unidentified
They were like, really?
joe rogan
Is Toronto a country in Asia as well?
suzanne santo
It's not honey.
joe rogan
So you were up there with Buck.
Is Buck Angel from Toronto?
suzanne santo
It was called Idea City, which is like TED Talks.
And it was a conference for...
It was really incredible.
joe rogan
And you guys played music?
suzanne santo
We did, yeah.
We were playing with our friend Adam Cohen.
We were his band.
So we weren't playing as Honey Honey, which was kind of cool because I felt like...
We were just a bunch of hired guns.
joe rogan
Oh, that's kind of fun, right?
suzanne santo
Yeah, playing banjo, singing backup.
Just to be a musician?
It was fun, only when I go back and watch the videos, I did not play well.
I'm not proud of my playing, but I'm fucking working on it, and I've gotten better, so, for the record.
But anyway, we were...
joe rogan
I don't know what good playing or bad playing is.
brian redban
Steve Martin's good.
suzanne santo
He's really good.
Oh my god, he's so good.
We got to see him in Nashville.
Yeah.
ben jaffe
Really entertaining guy.
suzanne santo
But anyway, Buck Angel.
joe rogan
Buck Angel.
suzanne santo
So the conference that we were at was a three-day conference and the theme was women.
And in all the facets of like, it was going through scientific evolution and, you know, in society.
And like there was anywhere from Olympic gold medalists to doctors and psychiatrists and lawyers and an oceanographer.
This incredible woman.
Dr. Sylvia Earle.
I love her.
And then they had two different trannies.
Transvestites.
joe rogan
Yeah, don't be transphobia.
You don't want to call them trannies.
suzanne santo
Dude, man, just be you.
joe rogan
You know you can't call people twinks anymore?
ben jaffe
Why not?
joe rogan
Adam Cohen, the guy who's the head of Bravo, had to apologize.
Is that his name?
The guy who's the head of Bravo.
He made a twink joke.
brian redban
I'd like to see him try to stop me, Joe.
joe rogan
He had to apologize to the twink neighborhood.
The twink community.
suzanne santo
Look, old Greg had a mangina.
I support him.
Anyway, so Buck Angel...
joe rogan
You should explain to people who don't know what the fuck we're talking about.
suzanne santo
Okay, so Buck Angel is a very famous transvestite.
unidentified
Transsexual.
suzanne santo
Transsexual, excuse me.
Who's a woman, but is almost as jacked as Joe Rogan, and just a massive frame of a man, of a typical man, but actually is a woman, you know.
joe rogan
And does porn, right?
suzanne santo
And does porn.
joe rogan
Holla!
suzanne santo
And is married to a woman.
Holla!
Which makes me wonder, does that make him a lesbian?
joe rogan
Well, he does porn with girls or guys?
suzanne santo
With guys.
Maybe girls, too.
But I did myself an unsolid, and I was like, oh, I'm curious.
Because I was really fascinated by Buck Angel's talk.
joe rogan
Brian, you know what you do.
suzanne santo
So I went online and I looked up some Buck Angel porn.
And it really kind of messed me up because I saw him in the elevator the next day.
And I was just like, oh God.
I'm so confused.
I'm just confused.
joe rogan
So did it feel like gay porn?
What did you feel like you were watching?
suzanne santo
It was a total shaved vag.
unidentified
And it was just so...
suzanne santo
You see the top frame, which is all...
He looks like a lumberjack.
He's got a goatee.
He's tatted up.
He has huge muscles.
And he lives his life as a man, so I feel it's right to call him him because I think that's what he prefers.
And he was great.
He was fucking cool.
I liked hanging out with him.
But after I saw him getting pounded by a dude that looked just like him into his vagina, I was really confused.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
suzanne santo
Oh, there's Buck on the right.
That's Buck.
joe rogan
That is so crazy.
Look at him.
unidentified
He's fucking huge!
joe rogan
That really does look like a fucking dude.
That's amazing.
I mean, that's a...
unidentified
That's a big guy.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
Brian added that song, by the way.
Did you really?
Yeah, he does that on everything, that son of a bitch.
If you go to that actual video, you will not get that full experience.
Someone needs to make that mix.
But yeah, that looks like a big dude.
suzanne santo
Yep, and there's no D downstairs.
joe rogan
But does he have a large clitoris, at least?
unidentified
I'm also really, really excited that he has this project going.
I just want to reach out to you kids and let you know that I really had a tough time when I was a kid.
People didn't understand me.
People didn't get that I felt like a guy.
I got teased.
I was in fights constantly.
I was isolated.
I didn't know who to reach out to.
I tried to commit suicide again.
joe rogan
Enough, Buck.
You're bumming me out.
I wanted to watch you suck some dicks.
I didn't want to watch you cry.
You're acting like a little bitch.
Settle the fuck down.
You're insensitive.
This is more transphobia.
You guys are cave people.
I'm gonna throw up my vegan pizza now.
suzanne santo
Oh, that's fun.
Anyway, moving on.
joe rogan
Listen, it takes every kind of people to make this world go round.
I think we learned that in the 70s.
And Buck Angel, good on ya.
Go get that.
suzanne santo
So then there was another transvestite that was...
Transsexual, excuse me.
I'm using the wrong word.
Yes.
joe rogan
Vestite is just a pretender in a dress.
suzanne santo
Forgive my ignorance.
joe rogan
Just a man in a dress.
suzanne santo
Look, I live a sheltered life.
joe rogan
When you go and get your shit snipped.
That's when you move into the wonderful world of people that made the commitment.
suzanne santo
Ben, what was the name of the other?
unidentified
Nina Story.
suzanne santo
Nina Story.
ben jaffe
So there's all these hormonal treatments that they have to undergo.
And they have to get them every week or every month.
joe rogan
I think so, yeah.
ben jaffe
How do you afford that?
joe rogan
It's a good question.
I wonder if people's insurance companies pay for it.
suzanne santo
Oh, boy.
joe rogan
I bet they do.
I bet.
Let's find out.
Okay, let's Google.
I bet they do.
I bet this is something that people have been trying.
There's a lot of transgenders in this country that are really in a bad place, and they do not have the money to be happy.
And if they just switch their gender, and I think that as a community, we should be doing that for them.
suzanne santo
Can we give this person a name, this character?
joe rogan
This is my ultra-progressive dickwad.
suzanne santo
What's the name?
joe rogan
I don't know.
Call it whatever you want.
brian redban
Cami Jilson.
joe rogan
Shelly.
It's a man named Shelly.
I was just going to say Clarence.
unidentified
Clarence.
joe rogan
What am I looking for?
I'm looking for insurance companies pay for sex change.
Okay, insurance.
brian redban
And look at Buckstar Vagina also.
suzanne santo
If it is, guys, this could be good for everybody.
I don't know why I said that.
joe rogan
What's wrong with you?
Trying to keep up with our retardedness.
suzanne santo
I think so.
Well, I think I'm feeling warm.
joe rogan
Insurance company to pay for sex change.
Bam!
A Queens woman trapped for 34 years in a man's body wins a battle with her insurance company that balked at paying for her sex change operation.
Wow.
First of all, this is like really shitty journalism.
Really shitty.
New York Daily News.
You don't say a Queens woman trapped in a man's body wins a battle with your insurance company.
No.
No, no, no.
You say, transsexual man who became a woman wins a battle with an insurance company.
You don't say someone trapped in a man's body.
Maybe she's not.
Maybe you hang out with her for a couple of weeks and go, oh, no, this is just someone who's fucking crazy.
Isn't that possible?
No.
You've made this huge judgment and painted this in a very biased way.
Although she does look like a chick.
suzanne santo
There's got to be some people out there that have had actual sex changes and then tried to go back.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm sure.
I'm sure people were bummed out.
I remember this one.
This guy got really bummed out because he couldn't come anymore.
He realized that he was never going to come.
suzanne santo
Well, that was what Nina Story talked about.
Nina Story is a famous transsexual that was also at this conference, the ever-mentioned conference.
And she had undergone how many surgeries, Ben?
ben jaffe
She was addicted to plastic surgery.
She'd gone under like 60 times under the needle.
suzanne santo
But she did something that was really interesting.
She chose to have her body be a canvas.
And she documented the whole change.
So she has videos and there is...
joe rogan
What's her name again?
suzanne santo
Nina Story.
joe rogan
Oh my god, what have you done?
suzanne santo
And it's funny because you look at her and she's just like this unbelievable...
She has a figure...
ben jaffe
She's like Jessica Rabbit.
suzanne santo
She looks like Jessica Rabbit, exactly.
And it's interesting.
It's just like it's a fascinating visual.
And she was really intense and she was talking about...
Her power and her energy and she had this really crazy voice.
joe rogan
I think this is the wrong person.
There's another Nina Story that's a singer.
suzanne santo
Is it not Nina Story?
joe rogan
No, there's another chick.
There's just a chick who sings.
You fucking ruined her life.
A vocalist.
Audio clips, lyrics, concert schedule, photos, a style incorporating pop blues, funk, alternative rock, jazz and soul.
Plus, I used to have a dick.
Oh, no.
I think it's a different person.
I think it's a different person.
unidentified
Did you find it?
suzanne santo
Did you find it?
joe rogan
Oh, Buck Angel.
Oh, what is that?
suzanne santo
Oh, no.
unidentified
Don't show him that.
joe rogan
He's showing me Buck Angel's enlarged clitoris.
suzanne santo
Is it enlarged?
joe rogan
Yes.
unidentified
Oh, come on.
Oh, my God.
joe rogan
It's quite funky.
Okay, I'm going to look up Nina Story.
suzanne santo
Why did you have to do that?
joe rogan
Don't you understand?
suzanne santo
It makes me uncomfortable.
unidentified
Why?
It makes me so confused.
joe rogan
Don't be.
Okay?
Don't be.
suzanne santo
But that was what they both talked about.
And I don't blame them.
They said that they didn't want to go with the full sexual transformation because the propensity of losing your orgasm was very high.
And who wants to lose that?
joe rogan
But how are you going to look like a chick if you still have a dick?
If you want to really be a woman and pretend you're a woman, you're going to have to give something up.
You're going to have to give up shooting loads.
suzanne santo
Yeah, it's called a mangina.
joe rogan
You're going to have to give up shooting loads.
Never.
I think if a man wants to be considered a woman, you can't have a dick.
If you want us to call you Shane.
suzanne santo
You know what's really funny, you guys?
I was tempted to tell my parents to listen to this one.
Because they haven't listened to the previous two that we did here.
And I was like, I bet today's going to be different.
Because I feel like everything's cool.
unidentified
You're talking about education.
joe rogan
Are you sure it's not Nina Arsenal?
unidentified
That's it.
ben jaffe
Nina Arsenal.
joe rogan
Nina Arsenal.
suzanne santo
Dude, Nina Story.
We are sorry, Nina Story.
joe rogan
Nina Story, sweetie.
suzanne santo
It's Nina Arsenault.
joe rogan
Sweetie, we're so sorry.
Please go support Nina Story on iTunes.
Go buy her shit.
We apologize.
Nina Arsenault.
suzanne santo
I'm sure your twinkle's doing great.
joe rogan
He does look like a crazy Barbie doll type thing.
Jesus Christ.
The silicone diaries.
Okay, so I guess that's his thing.
ben jaffe
What's really amazing is the body language.
She still moved like a dude.
joe rogan
Oh, stop before I puke!
unidentified
No, she didn't.
ben jaffe
She did.
suzanne santo
I thought she was very feminine.
ben jaffe
She sat down like this.
suzanne santo
Well, she said that because she said that when she would open her legs to you, that was her power energy coming at you.
joe rogan
Wow, power energy.
unidentified
That was her opening up her metaphorical hole.
joe rogan
Oh, my goodness, son.
My goodness.
Joey Diaz and I were in Vegas once, and a transsexual showed us the package.
Mrs. Rogan was there as well, and she got a chance to look at it too.
And Joey said it best.
He said, it looked like a bat with its mouth open.
suzanne santo
Oh, my God.
joe rogan
It looked like someone had slammed an apple core into someone's cock.
It's like, you don't need that anymore.
Let me just scoop that bitch out.
And then pull some ball skin over the hole and stitch it.
It looked like an empty hole where a dick used to be.
suzanne santo
Oh, wait.
It was a...
joe rogan
Yeah, dude.
And it's in the wrong spot, too, by the by.
Have you ever noticed that?
suzanne santo
Was it on the front?
joe rogan
Well, fake vaginas, they're more towards the front than the real vagina.
You know, real vaginas sort of tucked a little bit further back.
Well, do they feel different than the real vaginas like?
Well, it tastes different.
They're a lot more salty.
unidentified
They're fake ones.
Oh, come on!
Come on!
suzanne santo
What are you doing?
unidentified
You're fucking kidding me.
suzanne santo
You're kidding me.
Wait, you can't show tits on news streams?
joe rogan
You're a criminal, but you can show that.
Well, that wasn't real.
It just looked like it was something sexual.
But it was just a dude with his hand being silly.
Maybe you guys can fucking exercise the horrible feelings and thoughts in this room and sweep them out of here with a song.
Can you do that?
Because this conversation has gone dark.
suzanne santo
Yeah, can we?
It's been a dark one.
This is a dark one.
joe rogan
Well, somehow or another, we started out...
suzanne santo
We started off so well with dogs.
It was like dog world, dogs, people weeing on each other, and it was okay.
ben jaffe
I mean, it was a quick...
Descent from there.
joe rogan
But we got the school shootings, I think, that led us to a dark place.
Then we tried to recover with some humor.
suzanne santo
Transsexual talk.
joe rogan
Yeah.
suzanne santo
I'm exhausted.
joe rogan
Crazy.
Got a little crazy.
Well, you guys brought up the Buck Cherry.
Buck Cherry.
ben jaffe
Also a different...
brian redban
Yeah, you guys are friends.
joe rogan
I'm so glad you just said Buck Cherry.
unidentified
Buck Angel.
joe rogan
I mean, Buck Angel.
Do you guys know Buck Cherry?
ben jaffe
I've seen him.
Don't know him personally.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
You don't have like a Buck Cherry story?
unidentified
I don't like to pee.
joe rogan
I like that cocaine song.
I've never even done cocaine, but that song is great.
ben jaffe
It gets you gone.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Oh, man.
ben jaffe
He loves the cocaine.
He loves the cocaine.
brian redban
You know what the new thing is?
It's liquid cocaine.
I've seen a lot of people having this liquid cocaine where it's in like a nose spray thing.
unidentified
Really?
brian redban
And you just spray it in your nose.
joe rogan
No way.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That is crazy.
brian redban
And so it just looks like nasal spray.
joe rogan
So it looks like you're just cleaning your nose out.
brian redban
Yeah.
You're just doing nasal spray.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
brian redban
And so these people just carry them around in their purse and they're like...
It's crazy.
unidentified
Wow!
brian redban
And I guess it's better also for you.
joe rogan
It's healthy.
unidentified
It's like the e-cigarette.
joe rogan
It's really clean and good for you.
It's like the e-cigarette with a fucking Stephen Dorff commercial.
unidentified
Guys, let's take back our ability to do coke in public.
joe rogan
Take back our freedom.
Have you seen that commercial with Stephen Dorff?
Oh my god.
It possibly broke the douchebag scale.
It might have broken the douchebag scale.
Brian, pull it up please while we're waiting for beautiful Suzanne to urinate.
This is a video.
Blue cigarettes.
Stephen Dorff commercial.
Blue cigarettes.
It is easily the douchiest commercial in the history of the world.
He's in black and white and he's smoking an e-cigarette.
Take his freedom back, man.
brian redban
What's his thing?
ben jaffe
How come we know Stephen Dorff?
joe rogan
He was in Blade.
ben jaffe
Okay.
Was that his breakout role?
joe rogan
Not his...
I mean, he did a lot of movies, but he was in Blade.
I mean, he was the fucking head vampire in Blade.
From there on, it's been a downhill slide.
To the point where...
No disrespect.
And he's like, what about you, Fear Factor guy?
Listen, we're just talking about reality here, son.
Don't get upset.
ben jaffe
You're building.
joe rogan
I probably would have done that commercial too, that cigarette commercial, if they paid me enough.
unidentified
Yeah.
ben jaffe
Why not?
joe rogan
Who knows?
But once you see it, you're just like, whoa.
You've got to be really unaware to write this, to ask someone to do it.
Forget about him.
Look at this.
Wait, Tisa.
Brian, stop with the music.
unidentified
I'm tired of being a walking asterisk.
joe rogan
Negative, too.
unidentified
I'm tired of feeling guilty every time I want to light up.
Negative.
One.
I'm tired of being a walking ass trick.
Negative.
Two.
I'm tired of feeling guilty every time I want to light up.
I'm Steven Dorff.
I've been a smoker for 20 years.
joe rogan
Hold on.
Pause this.
Suzanne must see this.
You've got to see this.
Hurry up and sit down.
The Steven Dorff cigarette commercial?
Have you seen this?
It's the douchiest commercial.
Oh, you broke your leg.
It's the douchiest commercial in the history of the human race.
I don't think there's been a douchier commercial.
It's for Stephen Dorff for electric cigarettes.
Negative one.
unidentified
I'm tired of being a walking ashtray.
Negative two.
I'm tired of feeling guilty every time I want to light up.
I'm Stephen Dorff.
I've been a smoker for 20 years.
And I just found the smarter alternative.
Blue e-cigs.
Blue lets me enjoy smoking without it affecting the people around me.
joe rogan
He's in Malibu, by the way.
Look at this, look at this.
unidentified
Not tobacco smoke.
joe rogan
That means no ash.
unidentified
And best of all, no offensive odor.
With Blue, you can smoke at a basketball game if you want to.
And how about not having to go outside every ten minutes when you're in a bar with your friends?
The point is, you can smoke Blue virtually anywhere.
suzanne santo
Oh, that's so dumb.
Oh, I don't like this.
I don't like it.
unidentified
We're all adults here.
It's really bad.
joe rogan
It's time we take our freedom back.
It's time we take our freedom back.
I like how he looks away.
He paused away.
Looked away.
Stop it with the music, you fuck.
suzanne santo
Look at him.
unidentified
Look at him.
joe rogan
He's looking cool, black and white.
unidentified
That is so unbelievable.
joe rogan
Holds it out.
It broke the douchebag scale.
It literally broke the douchebag scale.
It's black and white for no fucking reason.
There's no reason for that.
It's an artistic choice, man.
unidentified
I'm going to do this commercial, but I want it to be arty as fuck.
suzanne santo
Oh, no.
joe rogan
I want to look like Jack Kerouac.
suzanne santo
I have to be honest with you.
I smoke electronic cigarettes because...
joe rogan
There's nothing wrong with smoking them.
suzanne santo
I don't like to tell anyone or do it in public because I'm embarrassed, but I'm satisfied because I'm not smoking regular cigarettes because I love them, but they're bad for me.
joe rogan
Well, I don't think electronic cigarettes are good for you either.
suzanne santo
That was one of the douchiest things I've ever seen in my life.
It's ridiculous!
And I feel like I need to take a time out.
joe rogan
No, listen.
I support the idea of electric cigarettes.
It's not...
The idea of electric cigarettes, I totally support it.
But that approach, the cool guy on the beach in Malibu...
unidentified
It's not cool!
suzanne santo
That's the thing.
Someone should get up there and be like, hey, I do this.
But it's pretty...
joe rogan
But the image that they're trying to portray is like this man who's like rugged with his like his stubble by the ocean with like a seaman's jacket on you know I mean he has this fucking Jack Kerouac look to him like he's gonna go write the great American novel and he's just so cool to be around goes to the local bar and they all know him by name you know me and Buck Angel like to smoke cigarettes on the beach that's what they should do we should Comes out, the Buck Angel's pregnant with Stephen Dorff's love child.
suzanne santo
That's another thing.
What if Buck Angel got pregnant?
I don't know.
joe rogan
I don't know if he can anymore.
They would come out, they would be dragons.
That's where dragons come from.
When societies figure out how to turn a man into a woman, then a guy fucks it, and then it gets pregnant, a dragon is born.
I think I saw that in Game of Thrones.
unidentified
Where is it?
suzanne santo
Game of Thrones coming out in March.
joe rogan
Is it?
suzanne santo
Yeah.
joe rogan
Ooh, you just made me excited about March.
suzanne santo
I can't wait.
joe rogan
Now the end of the world can't come.
suzanne santo
You know what?
Honestly, I'm going to take back what I said before.
joe rogan
About what?
suzanne santo
I think we're okay.
joe rogan
I think we're okay.
suzanne santo
I really do.
joe rogan
We're okay.
suzanne santo
But the aliens are coming.
joe rogan
Well, I think the aliens are already here.
suzanne santo
I know.
joe rogan
If you get in an isolation tank, they'll talk to you.
suzanne santo
Did you...
There's that show.
This is...
I fucking love this.
I haven't seen it.
I don't even know...
What's the show called on ABC? The Neighbors or something where it's about aliens and they come to life.
joe rogan
No.
suzanne santo
They come to Earth.
That's what the dude from ER. I'm not sure, but all I know is my friend told me about it and forgive me if I misquote myself.
But the show is about these aliens that come to Earth, and they look like people, and they don't have substantial up-to-date information on how to integrate themselves into the human society.
They have this sports almanac from 1985, so they all give themselves names like Jackie Joyner-Kersee and Larry Bird and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, and it's like a six-year-old white kid, and his name's Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.
I could be totally wrong.
I've never seen the show, but my friend was telling me about it, and I thought that was funny.
joe rogan
That's kind of funny.
suzanne santo
The end.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's how the aliens come, and six-year-olds that pretend to be black athletes.
suzanne santo
Dude, I would.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's how you do it.
Confuse the fuck out of everybody.
Before you guys get started, I gotta give a shout out to the Float Lab.
The Float Lab in Venice, California, the premier isolation tank people, builders in the country.
They're on the West Coast.
If you're ever in California, if you're in San Francisco, take a flight down.
Trust me.
You need to see what these guys are doing.
They're taking isolation tanks to the next level.
They just installed a new one in my basement this week.
It's crazy.
You gotta come see it.
We gotta make a new video.
Remember that last video?
Let's make a new one.
Because this new one's insane.
And I want to take care of them.
If you're in Venice, or anywhere near it, and you can get there, I think it's only like 40 bucks for an hour and a half or something like that.
They're very reasonable.
And without a doubt, they have the best equipment on the planet Earth.
This new one they put in my basement is 8 feet long and 6 feet wide.
brian redban
It's huge.
unidentified
Yeah, you could have a party in that bitch.
joe rogan
Buck Angel and Buck Cherry together.
And if Buck Angel got pregnant from Buck Cherry, that might be the apocalypse.
brian redban
Dude, what if you had to be in the isolation take with all of them and Stevendorf?
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Ow!
You're crazy, bitch, but you fuck so good, I'm on top of it!
Ha ha ha!
Hey, get off me.
brian redban
Get off me, man.
joe rogan
I'm trying to be cool by the beach, man.
I don't think what you're doing is cool at all.
Get it together.
brian redban
Good for you.
unidentified
Electronic cigarettes.
suzanne santo
Tired of being guilty.
joe rogan
Tired of being guilty about lighting up.
unidentified
And you can light up at a basketball game, because you know me, man.
joe rogan
I like to go to the game.
Hang out with the guys.
Have a beer.
brian redban
Why does your man vagina smell like Jay Moore?
joe rogan
What exactly does Jay Moore smell like?
brian redban
I don't know.
Buck Cherry?
joe rogan
Buck Angel?
By the way, I'm a Buck Cherry fan.
Don't get it twisted.
unidentified
I like Buck Cherry.
joe rogan
That crazy bitch song, when I think about my ex-girlfriends, all of them, they could play all my memories of every chick that I dated until I was like 26 and throw them together with a Buck Cherry song, that crazy bitch song.
Just all of my memories of every crazy one of them splice them all together.
So, respect to Buck Cherry.
And respect to Buck Angel.
Fuck it, man.
If you really feel like you were a dude, fuck it.
Get in there, son.
You've done a great job of looking exactly like a dude.
If you were in jiu-jitsu class, I wouldn't want to roll with you.
You look quite big.
I don't have to deal with that kind of fucking horsepower.
suzanne santo
Would you shrimp out?
joe rogan
I would hip escape.
Try to hip escape.
suzanne santo
You know what we did on Saturday night this past weekend?
joe rogan
Inside shrimp out joke.
suzanne santo
We went to an amateur wrestling night in Nashville, Tennessee.
Oh, that sounds awesome.
Those things, that was our second one.
We went to one in Cleveland this past year, like three months ago, by default.
And it is an unbelievable thing.
joe rogan
It's a social experiment, right?
suzanne santo
It really is.
For some reason, around really big dudes, something happens to me where...
joe rogan
It's called ovulating.
suzanne santo
I think it is.
I swear to God.
One time I was in Las Vegas with my whole family, by the way, because we all like to drink and gamble.
We were at the Rio, and it was Christmas time.
All of a sudden, all these Chippendales came out with Santa Claus.
I was like, oh my God!
I got pulled onto stage...
unidentified
And I couldn't do anything except go, just like freaking out.
Because they picked me up and they were just so big and I just kept touching their arms and I was like, oh my god!
joe rogan
Did your hormones start firing over time?
suzanne santo
Did your eggs start rumbling?
I'm a real personality kind of girl, so the whole thing, I think just the actual visual is such a shock to my system of like a big dude who's like picking me up and his shirt's off and he's hairless and greasy.
joe rogan
But were you willing to let it go and like accept the fantasy?
suzanne santo
Oh yeah, it was a total fantasy.
joe rogan
Total magic mic on this motherfucker?
suzanne santo
Yeah, I mean, and I don't know, in my mind he's probably hung like a field mouse and I was fine.
joe rogan
Oh, in your mind?
You figured out a way to rationalize it?
suzanne santo
I was like, yeah, there's nothing, this is all wrong.
joe rogan
Is this all wrong?
Because you're a personality girl.
suzanne santo
The big dude thing is such a crazy phenomenon to me.
joe rogan
So if you could go into a parallel dimension, which could never be accessed again, and those Chippendales guys could just run a train on you, but no one would ever know, you'd be cool with that.
I don't know about that.
As long as you could just let it go.
It's not even real.
It doesn't even exist.
And after it's over, you go right back to the moment where you thought up that idea.
You're the only one with a memory.
It's all good.
suzanne santo
You know, if we had some deep talks and they held me afterwards, I think I'd be cool with it.
joe rogan
It's tough to find deep talks from the Chippin' Nails guys.
Probably a lot of Chippin' Nails guys are listening to this podcast right now and they're going, bro, okay?
If you were in my shoes, you'd fucking take this job too.
unidentified
Dude, you know what?
Let me tell you something.
suzanne santo
Magic Mike fucking got me going.
I was into it.
But any whore, I digress.
joe rogan
Any whore?
suzanne santo
We were at the amateur wrestling night, and there was one of those dudes, and it was like, he was not, obviously, he wasn't grade A top choice muscle meat for me, but he was really interesting, and there was like...
ben jaffe
Great personality.
suzanne santo
I disagree, but...
joe rogan
Grade A top choice muscle meat.
How do you define that?
He wasn't, I said.
Are you looking for a Brock Lesnar type character?
What is your grade A muscle meat?
suzanne santo
I'm not sure who that is, but I like that name.
joe rogan
Brock Lesnar is a former UFC heavyweight champion.
suzanne santo
See, this is not my realm, so I need some help.
ben jaffe
He kind of looks like the Russian dude in Rocky.
joe rogan
Yeah, he looks like a Viking.
suzanne santo
I'm into that, you know?
joe rogan
He's come here on a boat with a fucking sword in his hand.
suzanne santo
To pleasure me?
joe rogan
Not really.
Yeah, he'll probably cut your head off after he fucks you.
suzanne santo
Yeah, no, I don't know about that.
joe rogan
But while he's fucking you, it'll be like an experience.
suzanne santo
This is so bad.
I cannot believe I was going to tell my parents to listen to this podcast.
I hope to Christ they don't.
joe rogan
I'm sorry, guys.
Mr. and Mrs. Honey Honey, we really apologize if you're listening right now.
We didn't mean to paint her in such an unfavorable light.
suzanne santo
They can hang.
joe rogan
This is all just play.
We're play.
This is entertainment.
In real life, I would never talk to your daughter like that.
She's a beautiful human being and I respect her very much.
But on the podcast, we've got to take our shots.
For entertainment.
unidentified
Okay?
joe rogan
And that's where the whole gangbang, run a train, Chippendales in the parallel dimension thing came from.
I don't want that to happen.
I don't think Suzanne wants that to happen either.
suzanne santo
They were there!
joe rogan
But afterwards, what do they say to you?
suzanne santo
I don't think anybody knew what to do, because I was just like, wow!
I was high.
I mean, they picked me up.
They picked me up.
joe rogan
Right.
Did that feel good, though?
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Kind of exciting.
suzanne santo
Because I'm tall and dinky, and that doesn't happen very often.
joe rogan
Like, I can manhandle you?
suzanne santo
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Women want that shit.
That's your DNA crying out.
That's why a dude doesn't want the opposite.
A guy doesn't want a chick who carries him upstairs.
Like, what the fuck?
If a girl picks you up and carries you upstairs to fuck you, you're like, okay.
You're already defeated.
suzanne santo
How many times has that happened to you, Joe?
joe rogan
I don't think it's ever happened to me yet, but...
suzanne santo
Mrs. Rogan?
joe rogan
Life is young.
Things can happen.
People can get crazy.
Yeah, but a man doesn't want a woman to carry him, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Have you ever had a girl carry you, Ben?
ben jaffe
Not in a sexual sense.
Maybe just around town.
I've hopped on a few backs, I think.
joe rogan
Wow.
You've got to be really confident that someone doesn't fall backwards.
suzanne santo
I have a picture of you of Chris holding you and two more of your friends.
ben jaffe
He's a big guy.
joe rogan
Two more of your friends?
He picked up three people?
suzanne santo
Three able-bodied adults.
Although the lady was on the small side.
She was very tiny.
joe rogan
What's the small side?
100 pounds?
ben jaffe
She's probably like a 5'2-er.
joe rogan
That's a lot.
ben jaffe
Something like that.
joe rogan
To add to a dude.
unidentified
He's a big dude.
ben jaffe
He's like your 7-foot bro.
joe rogan
Wow.
There's some big humans out there.
suzanne santo
It happens.
joe rogan
Honey, honey, what are you going to play for us?
ben jaffe
What do you want to do first?
Excuse me?
What?
I literally just said it.
suzanne santo
You want to do Radiohead?
ben jaffe
Okay, here we go.
suzanne santo
Because the other one's sad.
joe rogan
Yeah, no sadness.
ben jaffe
This is a cover.
suzanne santo
Obviously.
This is a song by Radiohead that we wrote.
ben jaffe
You ready?
suzanne santo
I think so.
Don't start without me.
ben jaffe
I just borrowed this guitar.
suzanne santo
I don't want to hit this thing.
unidentified
Okay.
ben jaffe
We're just gonna go with it.
suzanne santo
Yeah, let's do it, Benny.
ben jaffe
You ready?
suzanne santo
Yeah, is that okay?
joe rogan
Here we go, bitches.
suzanne santo
One more time.
ben jaffe
One, two, three, four.
unidentified
Used to be alright.
What happened?
I'm The cat gets your tongue.
your string come undone one by one one by one how come I ain't know where I started How come I end up where I went wrong?
Won't take my eye off the ball again.
First you'd be a reality and you could distinct It used to be alright What happened?
Fats for whatever Fifteen step and a sheer drive How come I end up where I started?
How come I end up where I went wrong?
Won't take my eye off the ball again First you peel me out and then you cut the string
Thank you.
Thank you.
How come I end up where I went wrong?
Won't take my eye off the ball again?
First you rule me out and then you cut the string.
How come I end up where I started?
How come I end up where I went wrong?
Won't take my eye off the ball again?
First you rule me out and then you cut the string.
Oh, man.
suzanne santo
That was fucking difficult.
joe rogan
That was fun.
That was really cool.
That's very cool, very different for you guys.
suzanne santo
It was weird.
joe rogan
Love it, love it.
That's a really interesting take on that song, too.
suzanne santo
You know, we haven't played that as a duo, which was scary.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
suzanne santo
But we played with my roommate, this very talented musician, Ben Lewis, and he played, we did it a little trio style, and he played mandolin and sings, so it was kind of, it really sounded bluegrass.
joe rogan
Is it still scary for you guys?
I mean, when you think, like, you guys perform so much together, I would think you have almost like a sort of an ESP when it comes to doing a song together and you know how to, like, ebb and flow with each other.
Does it, like, when you, like, a song like that where you haven't done as a duo before and you were just doing it?
suzanne santo
Yeah, because you don't want it to suck.
What?
It's not going to suck.
It's not going to suck.
No, but I mean, especially if you're going to cover a fucking Radiohead song, you want to do it some justice.
I think that was like a B minus.
What did you think?
joe rogan
Oh, that was great.
Shut the fuck up.
Don't judge yourself.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
There you go.
unidentified
You're right.
suzanne santo
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
You sounded really good.
joe rogan
Radiohead, they release all their shit online, right?
Did they do that?
brian redban
I don't know.
ben jaffe
They do both now.
brian redban
They did at least one of their albums online, yeah.
ben jaffe
I think they were the first big band to say, name your price.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
ben jaffe
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, wow.
So how do they do that?
They just say, like, you put up a PayPal account or something like that and say, you can give us a buck or you can give us hefty bucks.
suzanne santo
Didn't they make, like, over a million dollars?
ben jaffe
Yeah, yeah, they made so much money.
suzanne santo
Do you think if we do that, we'll make millions of dollars, too?
ben jaffe
I don't think we're quite there yet.
suzanne santo
I don't know.
I don't know.
Maybe we should try.
joe rogan
Do you guys feel a build-up?
Do you feel like your crowds are getting larger?
Your Twitter followers are getting more?
Are you getting more attention?
Do you feel it?
ben jaffe
We're kind of cruising right now because we're working on this record.
So we haven't been going out much.
We haven't been touring that much.
And it's not a lot.
It is a lot because we're not...
We're not touring.
joe rogan
You're just creating new stuff?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
When you do that, do you take time off the road and you just say, okay, we have to set aside X amount of weeks?
How do you do it?
ben jaffe
We keep trying to set deadlines.
No, we're setting deadlines.
We're going to be recording by late February, but we have a lot of work to do.
We have a lot of writing.
That we haven't done yet.
It's so funny.
Last time we were here, we were doing the Kickstarter stuff.
And in between, we've been making all the rewards.
All the people who donated the campaign were sitting around.
suzanne santo
There's a photo to haikus, man.
Let me tell you something.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
suzanne santo
It's been really, really fun and...
It's just the two of us.
Nobody's helping us with it, which is really the truth.
90% of them, we don't know who they are.
It's such a cool feeling.
People giving us $500 or even $25, whatever the case, is a really amazing feeling.
And then to write them their haiku.
joe rogan
Well, it's really cool.
I hear what you're saying.
suzanne santo
It was fun, but we're almost done, and we've got a couple shows, things like that here and there, but really we're just writing.
joe rogan
It's really cool, and these people are always going to have this connection with you now.
ben jaffe
Yeah, it has been a good thing to see all these names.
suzanne santo
We know the names, too.
ben jaffe
We have addresses.
unidentified
We fucking know where you live.
joe rogan
It's really badass when you stop and think about it.
suzanne santo
You might need to sleep on your couch.
joe rogan
It's so unusual, you know, to really stop and think about it.
How often does a band get to do that?
I mean, the Rolling Stones never got a chance to do that when they were coming up, you know?
Who gets a chance to do that?
suzanne santo
No, but they hung out with the Hells Angels and no big deal.
joe rogan
Is that okay?
That's a substitute?
suzanne santo
That's what we need to do is we need to get a motorcycle gang behind us and I think that's just like straight to the tippy top.
joe rogan
That gets like people stabbed.
You gotta be really careful with that shit.
suzanne santo
I mean, lives aren't so bad.
Just kidding.
I make jokes.
ben jaffe
This is kind of a weird, maybe terrible thing.
I got through the airport security with a knife.
unidentified
Somebody else just told me the exact same thing the other day.
ben jaffe
You did?
I realized it was in my jacket.
joe rogan
What are you carrying a knife for?
What are you doing, man?
ben jaffe
It's a gift.
joe rogan
You getting crazy?
ben jaffe
Maybe I have to shit on the fucker.
joe rogan
When you're a jet, you're a jet for life?
A switchblade's making a comeback?
suzanne santo
Yes.
I carry a knife on me all the time.
joe rogan
Do you really?
suzanne santo
Yeah.
joe rogan
Wow, you gangster.
ben jaffe
Some packages are really hard to open, Joe.
suzanne santo
When you walk to your car, you want to open something, you got a little thread on your coat, just...
joe rogan
Listen, don't think I don't appreciate it.
If I was a chick, I'd be armed as fuck.
suzanne santo
You know, I didn't really think about it as much until I moved to Nashville, and I'm alone a lot of the time, so it's like, never mind.
I'm fine.
I'm totally armed.
I have a big dog.
joe rogan
Dude's just pulled their pants off.
suzanne santo
Dude, I'm fucking...
joe rogan
I'm alone a lot of time.
ben jaffe
When did you start dating big black guys?
joe rogan
It's time to fantasize.
suzanne santo
From the beginning.
joe rogan
Oh, Suzanne.
suzanne santo
Please stop.
unidentified
I'm sorry.
joe rogan
That's my giant horny redneck that sees you at the supermarket voice.
suzanne santo
I won't fight to the death if I have to.
joe rogan
Well, I like how you roll.
You gotta do what you gotta do.
suzanne santo
This is getting hardcore.
joe rogan
Living in Nashville is better?
Worse?
Different?
suzanne santo
I'm gonna say better.
Better in the sense that from a, you know, I'm here to play music vibe.
You get so much more for your dollar.
It's a very affordable town.
There's incredible musicians on every corner that are welcoming and inspiring and helpful.
We have all these friends that help us with just getting integrated.
I really like it.
It's funny, I was telling Red Van earlier, he's like, how you doing?
And I was like, you know, I'm great and I love LA. I really do.
But the minute I got on the 10 and I was stuck in traffic, I was in a foul mood.
joe rogan
Really?
suzanne santo
Yeah, I wanted to get here.
I wanted to go pick up Ben across town.
It was funny.
It took so long to get here.
I left at 12.30.
joe rogan
Wow.
suzanne santo
And I don't know.
There's just something about Nashville that I really...
Our productivity, like I have more energy.
I go to the YMCA like four times a week.
I mean, things are...
joe rogan
So you have more time?
suzanne santo
More time.
Much more time.
joe rogan
Why is that?
ben jaffe
The pace is so much slower there.
Just in general.
suzanne santo
It's a smaller town.
There's not as many people.
ben jaffe
We know fewer people.
joe rogan
You can get around easier?
suzanne santo
Yes.
Ben lives like a mile and a half from me, which is nice.
joe rogan
See, again, you guys are moving to a new place.
Why don't you move right next door to each other?
You're crazy.
Why not create a little community?
Well, you know what?
suzanne santo
We kind of are right next door to each other.
I mean, I couldn't tell you the last time I went a day without seeing you.
Like a whole day.
ben jaffe
How does that feel?
suzanne santo
It feels great.
I think you're really great.
I think you're really funny and you're so smart and talented and good-looking.
ben jaffe
You're beautiful.
What a great body.
joe rogan
I like how you guys roll.
This is beautiful.
Just got ugly.
Do you have to resist that?
I don't think we should talk about this.
You guys have been together for a long time.
unidentified
Do you have to resist romantic urges?
joe rogan
No conversation.
ben jaffe
Going gay these days.
joe rogan
No need to have this conversation.
suzanne santo
Ben's revisiting his life in the 90s.
joe rogan
It's odd though to have a man-woman sort of equal partnership like this in a band that works.
Nobody winds up getting pregnant.
suzanne santo
Oh my god.
God, I'm so not ready for that.
joe rogan
You know, I mean, you guys are like bandmates, really good friends.
That's a weird position for a man and a woman to be like really good friends, isn't it, in this day and age?
suzanne santo
Well, yeah, because it's, you know, it's difficult in a lot of different ways because, you know, for the significant others that we date, that's like a, that's a big one, you know, to...
Because we're so close.
Creativity together is a very intimate thing.
It's a rough road.
Being a musician in general, because you either date someone in your band or you date someone not in your band that you never see.
Or you're with someone that you see every day.
There's this fine line.
joe rogan
Do you ever date a guy and he's like, a fucking Ben guy.
suzanne santo
Never.
No, that would be ridiculous.
joe rogan
I don't like how he looks at you when you say it.
suzanne santo
Why would I want to date someone who didn't like my best friend?
unidentified
I don't like how he looks at you.
suzanne santo
Unless he was a Chippendale, I might make some reparations.
unidentified
Yeah?
suzanne santo
No, I wouldn't.
joe rogan
Just those guys from that night.
suzanne santo
It would be a short-lived relationship, let me tell you.
joe rogan
Well, listen, that's what you're looking for.
What are you trying to do?
Are you trying to fix the world?
Are you trying to have a good time?
Okay, what are you going to do?
Establish utopia?
Start a new community?
No, you're going to get your freak out with a bunch of fucking shave dudes.
What's the problem?
A little baby oil and a big party.
The smell of suntan lotion in the air.
suzanne santo
Oh no.
joe rogan
Right?
suzanne santo
God, it's so funny.
ben jaffe
Leg shavers, all of them too.
suzanne santo
Tan fellows.
unidentified
How does that affect you?
suzanne santo
I'm white as goat cheese.
It's just like, it's amazing.
I couldn't get a tan to save my life.
joe rogan
No?
suzanne santo
I've tried.
Didn't work out well.
joe rogan
Nothing.
brian redban
Do you burn?
suzanne santo
I burn, yeah.
joe rogan
But you have dark hair.
suzanne santo
I do.
joe rogan
Yeah, what is your nationality?
suzanne santo
I'm Italian on my papa's side and my mom is Native American Indian and European.
So I'm going to live forever and be an alcoholic.
Kidding!
joe rogan
Is that the case?
Do you find that it runs in your community?
suzanne santo
Absolutely.
First of all, whose family, I want to know, doesn't have...
joe rogan
Alcoholism?
suzanne santo
Yeah, come on.
joe rogan
Boring people?
suzanne santo
Mormons?
I mean, it's true.
Every culture has their physical relationship to it.
Genetically speaking, and I believe that the...
I'm a lightweight.
As much as I love to drink, I'm kind of good after two drinks.
I'm pretty warm.
My voice, my volume gets louder.
You're the best kind of bro.
I start taking my clothes off.
joe rogan
I'm kidding.
You're good for a party.
suzanne santo
That was a lie.
joe rogan
You're ready to go.
suzanne santo
In the most fucking classy kind of way, bros.
joe rogan
That's all anybody's looking for.
The most classy kind of way.
ben jaffe
Period.
unidentified
Period.
suzanne santo
But anyway, I hope that I said that well and it was not offensive.
joe rogan
Do you find it easy to make friends in Nashville?
You guys like meeting cool people and enjoy it?
ben jaffe
Warm and open.
joe rogan
It's an unusual town, isn't it?
ben jaffe
Yeah, and I never realized how huge LA was until you go to Nashville.
And it really is a small town.
We're there two weeks and you go out and you're seeing people that you know.
And you can get across town in 15 minutes and everybody just kind of wants to hang.
It's like a big sitting on the porch beer drinking community.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's like, I think that when towns get too big, and there's a lot of great things about LA, there's a lot of, I mean, there's so many great restaurants, there's so many places to go.
All my friends live here.
I love LA. But I really like smaller towns.
I really love living in Boulder.
I really love Portland.
I really love Nashville.
Nashville's badass.
And there's like a better vibe.
There's like, oh, the frequency in the air is less intense.
It's not death metal.
It's like fucking piano music You know what I mean?
It's like you can relax a little.
The frequency of the actual city itself.
You go to New York.
New York is red line.
Everywhere you go, it's...
There's too many people.
There's no way to avoid that.
It's a crazy fucking town.
It could take you an hour to drive across that stupid island.
A whole hour.
Easily.
Easily.
Which should take you a minute.
It should take you one minute.
ben jaffe
I tell you.
joe rogan
So that kind of stress is going to definitely affect people socially.
And you don't get that in a place like Nashville.
And that in itself is better.
ben jaffe
That's what it feels like.
The pace of everything is slower.
So you can get more...
I don't know.
If you take advantage of it, you can get more accomplished.
Because there's not this constant scurrying that you feel like you have to do.
Or at least I felt like I had to do in LA. Yeah.
It was like...
Get to here, get to here, get to here, get to here, and then nothing would actually come of any of these things.
joe rogan
No, I feel that.
I feel that constant scurrying.
I've had friends like Eddie Bravo.
He used to live in West Hollywood, and he liked living in West Hollywood because he felt like when he lived there, the pace was like a faster pace because everybody was doing things.
It made him feel like he had to get up and get things done.
That is the last shit I need.
You know, I do not want that.
suzanne santo
Well, it's kind of like you have to get up and get things done and then you can't get there on time because you have to wait.
That's a difficult thing to digest.
brian redban
Do you guys do any ween covers?
suzanne santo
No, but we talked about Piss Up a Rope last time we were here.
unidentified
We played it.
ben jaffe
Where'd the cheese go?
suzanne santo
Oh, is that it?
Where'd the cheese go?
Oh, that's great.
I love cheese.
joe rogan
You love cheese?
You know what's the sad thing about cheese?
suzanne santo
Oh no, Joe, don't.
joe rogan
I'll tell you what's the sad thing.
In this fucking country, people are not allowed to use unpasteurized milk to make cheese.
You have to pasteurize the milk and homogenize it and boil it down and kill all the stuff that makes the cheese taste good.
You ever have cheese in Europe?
suzanne santo
No.
joe rogan
You've got to have cheese in France.
You have some non-homogenized cheese in France from an old, like, cheesemaker.
Some motherfucker really knows what they're doing.
You can get it in America.
I mean, don't get me wrong.
There's places in...
We used to get some...
suzanne santo
Ruining my cheese dreams.
joe rogan
...really delicious cheese.
There's a place in Beverly Hills.
It's like a straight cheese place, and I know they probably...
It's probably like a Cuban cigars sort of a thing.
Like, you can get Cuban cigars, but you gotta know people.
They gotta know you first.
Then they slip you the non-homogenized, non-pasteurized cheese.
unidentified
The secret cheese?
suzanne santo
You have secret cheese access in Los Angeles?
joe rogan
Do you ever have raw milk?
Do you ever drink raw milk?
suzanne santo
I have, yeah.
joe rogan
It's delicious.
suzanne santo
It's okay.
joe rogan
And it's so good.
It's just okay?
Raw milk with cookies, you cannot go wrong.
brian redban
Warm, a little curd.
joe rogan
With some badass fucking...
ben jaffe
Straight from the teat.
joe rogan
Yeah.
suzanne santo
Sitting on the lap of an elderly man.
brian redban
A couple pubic hairs.
joe rogan
If you get some badass cookies, okay, some really good, like Nestle's Tall House type bitches, like, what is that place at the airport?
suzanne santo
Did you just say Nestle's Tall House cookies?
joe rogan
Type bitches?
Type bitches?
What is the fucking...
No, not Cinnabon.
Those cookies.
There's a fucking famous cookie chain.
They're amazing cookies.
God damn, I can't remember.
suzanne santo
Okay, hold on.
ben jaffe
Famous Amos.
joe rogan
No.
Famous Amos are pretty good, but there's cookies that you get.
They're always at the mall.
suzanne santo
Are they gourmet cookies?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
suzanne santo
Oh, Mrs. Fields.
unidentified
Yes!
joe rogan
There you go, Mrs. Fields.
suzanne santo
Ask me another one.
joe rogan
Take a few of those.
unidentified
I know a lot about malls.
joe rogan
Just get some peanut butter, chocolate chips.
And you know what?
I'm going to find a Mrs. Fields in this area, in Pasadena.
We're going to go there after this fucking show.
suzanne santo
Wow.
joe rogan
I need some cookies.
You can't go.
You've got to go to Hollywood.
suzanne santo
Look what's happening.
joe rogan
Oh, my...
My comedy special comes out tomorrow, ladies and gentlemen.
Tomorrow it comes out on JoeRogan.net.
If you go to JoeRogan.net, it's available.
We're having a problem with the Amazon thing.
It was supposed to be ready today, but it's not.
So hopefully it'll be ready by tomorrow, but if not, the PayPal thing will definitely still be ready.
I'd like it to be ready.
With Amazon, so you can do that one-click, which is awesome, by the way.
I'm a huge Amazon one-click proponent.
So it'll be on JoeRogan.net.
It'll be there.
That's what it's going to look like.
You've got to enter in all your nonsense.
The special is something that I paid for it entirely myself, Louis C.K. style.
I did essentially exactly what he did.
I'm releasing it for five bucks.
I think what he did by setting that price is really smart.
I think it's really cool.
And Louie's one of the best comics in the country.
Why would you ask for more?
Don't be playing that.
brian redban
This is an outtake.
joe rogan
Stop that shit.
I know what it is, bitch.
It's my show.
But it's available tomorrow, and then there's like a whole thing explaining that I paid for it, and please don't steal it.
You know, of course certain people are going to steal it, you're going to, but I think it's a reasonable price.
I think this sort of model, like what we were talking about with Radiohead, what they did, allowing people to pick their own, I think...
Stop playing my shit, dude.
brian redban
I wasn't playing the shit.
joe rogan
How dare you.
brian redban
It's kind of cool to look at, the quality of it.
Look at the quality.
unidentified
It's crazy.
joe rogan
Dare you.
No, it's great.
Positive Image Video did it.
They're the same people that produced the UFC shows.
My friend Anthony Giordano, he's the director of it.
And he's the one who did my last one, Talking Monkeys in Space 2. I'm really excited to do it this way for a couple reasons.
One, I think it's the best way to distribute things, to distribute them online, and to do it directly to your fans instead of having to go through Comedy Central or any of these other...
For a comic, to have an outlet to release your stuff, there's only a few options.
You could do an HBO thing or a Showtime thing.
Unfortunately, you have to actually sit down with people when you do that, and they have to decide what they like about your material, what they don't like, and That shit is whack.
The worst thing about being a comedian is when you go to release your stuff and there's other people that have a say or want to have a say in the actual content.
It's crazy.
They're the dumbest conversations.
I've had people get upset at the dumbest shit.
It's mind-boggling.
It's unnecessary.
I think one of the things that is really important about art...
Whether it's a stand-up comic or someone who writes something or whatever it is, I love an individual's unique point of view.
I love seeing the way a person puts it together.
You know, whether it's perfect or not, if it comes from you, I like that.
I like knowing that you wrote all your jokes.
I like knowing that you thought all these thoughts, that you printed all those words.
I want to be connected with your thoughts, your creativity, your consciousness.
And the only way to do that is for a person to release their own shit.
Period.
Whether it's a band to release their own shit or a comedian to release their own shit.
As soon as you have some executive type characters interfering with your creative process, you're fucked.
You just are.
That's not what they're supposed to be doing.
But when they can, they will.
They get their dirty little greasy fingers all over your shit.
And they fuck it up, inevitably.
And I guess that's not necessary anymore.
Because of this podcast, we've essentially cut out doing most radio shows.
I mean, I occasionally do radio, but it's not like every week like I used to have to do it.
I don't have to do as many different interviews.
You can talk directly to the people that enjoy what you do.
And these are crazy times, you know?
This podcast alone has changed my life, changed Brian's life, changed Ari's life, Duncan's life, Joey's life, changed all of our lives.
We're in a weird place right now.
And I think the only smart thing to do is just keep going in the same direction.
That's why I got this new studio set up and that's why...
We're releasing things online like this and that's why we're all touring and we're all continuing to write material.
brian redban
And your special, by the way, is out right now.
You could actually buy it this second, right?
joe rogan
This right second, yeah.
I'm not supposed to say that because they're trying to get everything in order.
Especially get the Amazon shit corrected.
But if you want to get crazy, go ahead, buy it, download it.
It's supposed to be up.
Don't say sorry, you didn't know.
How did you know?
Yeah, but tomorrow it's official.
So wait for tomorrow if you like fucking opening up your presents in the morning.
If you're one of those dudes who still believes in Santa, wait until tomorrow.
If not, yeah, you can go fucking get it right now.
Five bucks.
Please don't steal it.
I paid for this shit.
It costs more than $100,000 to film.
It's very expensive.
brian redban
Well, you did professional style.
joe rogan
Yeah, no, I didn't fuck around.
And we did it at the Tabernacle in Atlanta, which is a beautiful, historic theater.
It's an amazing, amazing theater.
And it was important.
I hadn't been to Atlanta in a couple years, so it was important to do it somewhere where I hadn't been for a while.
I hate getting emails from people like, when the fuck are you coming back to Vancouver?
Trust me, I want to come back to Vancouver.
I just haven't had a chance.
So that was an Atlanta sort of situation, so it was really cool to be able to do it in Atlanta.
And Atlanta does not get enough credit.
That is a badass fucking town.
I love Atlanta.
And it's one of the most diverse, racially diverse towns.
Atlanta's one of those places where you see a lot of black dudes wearing suits.
ben jaffe
Gator shoes.
joe rogan
Yeah, expensive clothes.
It's a weird thing.
There's a lot of black professionals in Atlanta.
It's like...
The level of interaction between white people and black people, it's way higher in Atlanta.
And that's a fucking real problem with LA. LA is, first of all, kind of segregated, and second of all, it's such a car culture that people don't really...
It's not like on the subways in New York, people will mingle.
Black people mix with white people.
Everybody gets together.
All sorts of different economic groups are all together.
In LA, that's not the case.
In LA, there's a lot of haves and have-nots.
There's a lot of separation.
Everyone's driving.
No one's on a train with a bunch of young kids.
It's a different sort of a vibe.
I think we miss out.
Because of that.
The idea that you get a little less crime that way, and it's a little safer that way, but you miss out on a little bit of the whole experience of being a human.
In Atlanta, there's a lot of mixing going on.
It was cool.
I liked it.
I saw a lot of black guys with white chicks.
I saw a lot of that.
I saw a bunch of white dudes with black chicks, too.
It was an interesting place.
I dig Atlanta, but it was a really cool place to do my special.
suzanne santo
Tabernacle's great.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's pretty dope.
And that's the name of the special.
It's Live from the Tabernacle.
Because I'm not that creative, and I couldn't come up with a better name.
That's all I had in my wheelhouse.
I searched, I found nothing, and I decided to just release it.
So from Talking Monkeys in Space to Live from a Place.
The last one.
I ran out of my good names.
ben jaffe
Once you release the special, do you stop doing that material live?
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, maybe on a rare occasion if someone yells something out, I would do it just for fun, you know, but it's over.
Yeah, I've got to let that shit go.
Move on to the next material.
That's why, first of all, that's why people are like, why did it take so long to release this?
Because we filmed it on 420 in April.
So part of it took that time because I had a new website that just went live last week, and it takes a long time to get like a professional website design company to build like exactly what you want and, you know, to...
The website traffic has been so crazy that it's gotten to a point where I needed something that was a little bit more robust and a little bit more functional.
Incorporating the podcast into it, we're working on a totally new podcast website now and that's the next step.
But this whole podcast thing, it's gotten so out of control, it's almost like, I don't know if you feel about it the same way I do, but I always feel like we're on a fucking little boat on top of some crazy wave, and we're like, whoa!
What do we need to do?
We need four fucking rafts!
Okay, let's get rafts!
When we buy shit for the studio, it's always like, what do we need?
Oh, we need more of this shit, we need more of that shit.
It just seems to be kind of growing on its own and we're just kind of keeping up with it.
This is a part of it.
So these shows that we do, whenever I ask people how many of you guys listen to the podcast, about a year in it was about 50%.
And now it's like 100%.
Now it's crazy.
We're having the fucking time of our lives.
I just want to tell you guys, as much as you people are enjoying it, we get these emails, we get these tweets and text messages.
I get these emails every day that tell people, or people telling us rather, that the podcast has changed their life and changed the way they think about things and the conversations we've had with...
People like Dennis McKenna yesterday.
I talked to a guy today who told me he listened to it five times already.
Came out yesterday.
It was such a crazy fucking conversation.
We are, just as you are, we're growing with these conversations as well.
There's no other way Brian and I would have had the opportunity to sit down with all these people.
And have these conversations with them.
They wouldn't just be willing to come meet us somewhere and sit down for three hours a day.
It would be crazy.
If I was just a dude who lived in a castle somewhere.
But I need to converse with this man.
Bring him to me.
The only way you can really have a...
It has to be worthwhile for them too so they can get their message out.
So this whole thing has been a real symbiotic exchange.
So when you guys...
I can't say it enough.
People keep telling me...
This podcast changed my life.
I've heard it before and I appreciate the fuck out of it every time.
And there's no other way to say it.
We're blown away by this whole thing.
We appreciate it.
Is this love music in the background?
brian redban
I've had the time of my life.
joe rogan
Is that Dirty Dancing?
brian redban
Yes.
joe rogan
Oh, it's beautiful.
brian redban
Remember there was two albums?
joe rogan
Don't put baby in a corner, okay?
Alright, so JoeRogan.net, go get it.
It's available on PayPal and I think Amazon.
Hopefully Amazon's ready by today.
If it's not, it should be around tomorrow.
But that's it.
Go fuck yourself.
Or not.
I don't care.
Honey, honey.
Honey, honey, would you like to play another song?
Honey, honey would be joining us this Friday at the End of the World show.
The first time we've ever done a show with a band, ever.
suzanne santo
Really?
No pressure.
joe rogan
Nothing.
Oh, shit.
No, please, it'd be awesome.
You guys, I believe, are the first people that played live in here, right?
Weren't they?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Everlast was second.
You guys were first.
suzanne santo
We came before Everlast.
brian redban
Poppin' cherries left and right.
suzanne santo
We love poppin' cherries.
What?
joe rogan
What?
I think you just contributed to rape culture again.
suzanne santo
No, no, no.
ben jaffe
That could be consensual.
joe rogan
Buck cherry and she's my cherry pie.
suzanne santo
Hey, thanks for having us on here again.
joe rogan
Please, we love you guys and the people that contact us online love you guys.
We've talked to so many people that say thank you for turning us on to Honey Honey.
suzanne santo
We've met a lot of them and they're awesome.
joe rogan
Isn't that cool?
suzanne santo
It's so great.
It's so good.
joe rogan
I don't know what happened, man, but we have the coolest fucking people in the world that are connected to us.
I really don't get it.
I don't know how it took place.
It's an amazing lack of douchebags.
It's staggering.
The actual douche numbers to cool people numbers, it's crazy.
It doesn't exist anywhere else on the earth.
We're creating utopia.
suzanne santo
It's pretty cool.
We appreciate it.
joe rogan
Listen, we appreciate you guys.
You guys are awesome.
You're incredibly talented.
And like I said before, we do whatever the fuck we can to promote you guys.
suzanne santo
Thank you.
Well, speaking of, I want to say that we have a show in Cleveland, my hometown, on 1226. That's the day after Christmas at the House of Blues in downtown.
And I feel like it's like only half full right now.
joe rogan
Powerful Cleveland.
suzanne santo
Get out there, bitches.
So if anybody's in the area, we're headlining, so we're going to play for a nice chunk of time.
joe rogan
Beautiful.
When you guys do a headline, you say, how long do you play for?
ben jaffe
I think we're going to do 70 minutes.
joe rogan
Yeah, 70, 75. That's a good number.
I like to do that on stand-up, too.
When I do more than that, I feel like I'm testing people's attention.
They're like, enough, dude.
How much more do you want attention?
suzanne santo
Well, we talk a lot, too.
There's a lot of...
joe rogan
Do you guys have Paul Stanley-type banter?
ben jaffe
I don't know who Paul Stanley is.
joe rogan
Paul Stanley from Kiss.
unidentified
Oh!
ben jaffe
I was like, is that a comedian?
brian redban
I thought it was that guy that was like...
suzanne santo
I don't know.
unidentified
How many of you out there like to taste the alcohol?
suzanne santo
Oh no, but we should.
unidentified
You never seen that?
joe rogan
Brian, pull some of that up.
Paul Stanley introducing for Kiss before we play this song.
ben jaffe
I thought you were talking about Paul Shafer.
joe rogan
No, Paul Stanley from Kiss.
Paul Stanley talks to the audience.
unidentified
Yeah.
We're honey, honey, and we think you're great.
joe rogan
No, you have to do it.
You have to be totally fucking cheesy.
Yeah, Paul Stanley talks to the audience.
This is a short video of Paul Stanley talking and playing with the audience at a Kiss Alive 35 concert.
That's...
suzanne santo
We should do this, man.
joe rogan
But that's Peter Criss.
What Paul Stanley does, they've made CDs out of it.
The dude, whoever you are, that's made those CDs.
I forget your name.
Thank you very much.
This guy sent me a stack of them.
They're hilarious.
It's all Paul Stanley from In Between Songs.
unidentified
How many of you out there like to party?
joe rogan
Like that kind of shit?
It's like super duper cheesy shit.
brian redban
He's getting mad with a laser.
joe rogan
Oh, some guy's got a laser.
unidentified
Bring that guy up here with a laser.
Come here, schmuck.
joe rogan
Schmuck?
Come here, schmuck.
People know you're an old Jew when you're calling a guy schmuck and you don't have a shirt on.
Try to find that one when Paul Stanley talks to the audience.
Yeah, that's just so they could get rid of some douchebag.
Is that it?
suzanne santo
That's amazing.
joe rogan
Yeah, how about that one?
What was that one?
Oh, that's another one.
Anyway, my point is, I have no point.
That's my point.
My point is, he's a hell of a showman, that Paul Stanley.
unidentified
Got it.
ben jaffe
Smart guys, those kisses.
joe rogan
They made a lot of money, those kisses!
Are you guys fans?
What kind of music did you listen to growing up?
ben jaffe
I have a really, really old dad, so I was listening to classical music from the 20s and 30s.
suzanne santo
Ben, how old's your dad?
ben jaffe
He's super old.
He's 91 now.
unidentified
Whoa!
joe rogan
Wait a minute, how old are you?
ben jaffe
I'm 27. Holy shit!
And this was before Cialis.
unidentified
Holy shit!
ben jaffe
Five-hour boners.
I'm praying for that.
joe rogan
How old was your mom?
ben jaffe
She's 28 years younger than him.
joe rogan
God bless your dad.
suzanne santo
Ben's dad served in World War II in the Pacific and stormed the airfields of Peleliu.
joe rogan
Holy shit!
ben jaffe
He's hardcore.
suzanne santo
Yeah, he's hardcore.
He's amazing.
joe rogan
Holy shit!
suzanne santo
Mark Jaffe.
unidentified
Dude, your dad is a hero.
joe rogan
That's why you got a boner.
It's a 28 years younger chick.
It's a hero boner.
ben jaffe
You don't look Asian at all either.
joe rogan
You don't look Asian at all.
unidentified
How dare you?
joe rogan
He's Russian.
He's a mail-order bride child.
unidentified
Easy.
joe rogan
Easy.
We're talking about mom and dad here, you fucks.
So you listen to classic shit?
ben jaffe
Yeah, well, I listen to, like, he would start, you know, there's an opera called The Magic Flute?
Yeah, it's Mozart.
Mozart with this opera called The Magic Flute, and he played every single weekend.
So he'd just be blasting, he'd blast it like he was playing ACDC. Really?
joe rogan
Wow.
ben jaffe
Every weekend, yeah.
So I remember that.
And then...
joe rogan
Did he get you into playing music?
ben jaffe
No, not really.
Neither of them did.
They didn't really play that much.
But I don't know where it started, but I just decided I want to play violin first.
And I played violin when I was like six, and I dropped it, and then I started playing drums, and from there on I just...
Kind of freaked out about it and got upset.
joe rogan
So from age six, you started with the violin, huh?
unidentified
Yeah.
Wow.
ben jaffe
I can't play it at all anymore, though.
joe rogan
No?
ben jaffe
It was a shame.
I feel like, actually, it would come back.
If I really put in the time...
suzanne santo
You should give it a whirl.
ben jaffe
Yeah.
suzanne santo
I believe in you.
ben jaffe
She sounded a bit sarcastic.
suzanne santo
No, I'm not.
I'm serious.
I believe in you.
I think you can do it.
ben jaffe
Come on.
brian redban
Come on, champ.
unidentified
Come on, Rocky.
joe rogan
There is no tomorrow.
What about you, Suzanne?
How'd you start?
suzanne santo
Well, I listen to a lot of, like, juxtaposed with, my folks run an Italian restaurant, so I grew up with a lot of, like, jazz, like Rosemary Clooney and Frank Sinatra and Louis Prima and stuff like that.
And I like that a lot.
And then, like, regular, like, 90s rock pop.
joe rogan
Scorpions.
suzanne santo
My mom listened to Rock Set.
There was a lot of Rock Set in the car.
joe rogan
What's Rock Set?
suzanne santo
Oh, God.
What's their song?
Hold on.
It'll come to me.
Fucking A. Red Band.
Where are we at here?
Oh, God.
joe rogan
Rock set?
suzanne santo
It'll come.
Hold on.
But there's rock set.
Yeah.
Well, how does it go?
Yeah.
unidentified
You got the loop, you got the loop.
There's everything in fucking the sun.
That's a good song, actually.
suzanne santo
There was that song, yes.
So there's that.
My mom was the more sort of contemporary culture.
My dad and I used to listen to a lot of Journey Together and harmonize.
joe rogan
You guys used to harmonize together?
suzanne santo
We used to harmonize.
I remember actually...
unidentified
Don't stop believing.
It was crazy.
And I'd be like, you take the high!
suzanne santo
And he'd be like, no!
unidentified
No way.
joe rogan
You and your dad would sing Journey together?
suzanne santo
Yeah.
And my dad played some acoustic guitar.
Wow.
He really liked Jethro Tull a lot.
joe rogan
Really?
suzanne santo
Yeah.
He had a band in the 70s.
joe rogan
Did he really?
suzanne santo
A mustache and a perm.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Whoa, your dad had a perm.
suzanne santo
He was pretty hip, that guy.
joe rogan
Did he have bell bottoms?
suzanne santo
I hope not, but yes.
joe rogan
Of course he did.
suzanne santo
No, I'm sure he did.
There's all these pictures of my dad and my grandfather and my uncles, and they look like Italian mobsters.
Everybody has, like, everything's together.
There's tailored suits and big glasses.
That's just the 70s.
joe rogan
Elton John glasses?
suzanne santo
Totally.
It was totally gay.
unidentified
Yeah.
suzanne santo
Yeah, what a weird time.
joe rogan
The 70s were so confused.
It's like they got disconnected from the mother nipple of drugs.
It's like in the 60s, they all had acid and marijuana and mushrooms.
And in the 70s, it's like, what are we going to do?
Stay sober, man.
suzanne santo
A lot of pot and a lot of quaaludes.
joe rogan
Quaaludes, pills.
Pills confuse motherfuckers.
Start wearing pointy shoes and bell bottoms.
Big belt buckles.
What am I doing?
suzanne santo
I don't know.
Isn't that funny how...
unidentified
I feel like back then, dudes, for the most part, had such...
suzanne santo
There was such a, like, wardrobe-wise speaking, there was so much more of an effort put into what guys would wear on a regular basis.
joe rogan
Yeah, because they didn't have Match.com.
They couldn't just, like, find people online.
You had to pretend to be something you weren't.
You had to go somewhere and wear the outfit and do whatever you could to get someone to touch you.
Jesus Christ.
What do I have to like?
Do I have to dance?
You know?
Men are essentially...
They're junkies, and they're born into this world, junkies.
And then they go out as young men with these full raging hormones, and it's this massive quest to figure out how to get someone to touch you.
And what do I have to do?
What do I have to pretend?
Do I have to talk a certain way?
suzanne santo
Just brass tacks.
joe rogan
Cut my hair a certain way.
Let me just get that figured out first.
And every man is struggling with that.
From the time we're young...
When we're 16, 17, 18, the conversations we have is all about how we figure it out, how to fucking get them to like us.
suzanne santo
It's so funny.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, that's what breeding is all about.
If it wasn't for that sense of urgency, there'd be three people on the planet.
The only reason why we do it is because we are junkies.
We're just so crazy.
Just get rid of the loads.
Just get them in there quick.
Somebody touch me!
And so, there you go with bell-bottoms.
Fucking confusing wardrobe things.
It takes like 10 years for people to go, what the fuck are we doing?
Yeah, what the fuck are we doing?
These things look stupid as fuck.
You're right, man.
Fuck bell-bottoms.
Pants are still here, okay?
Pants work.
Everybody's cool with jeans.
Jeans have been around since fucking, you know, Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid have the same jeans that you wear.
suzanne santo
They wear jeans?
joe rogan
They wear jeans.
suzanne santo
Denim.
joe rogan
They wore canvas, which is interesting.
Most clothes and pants during the minor days, the cowboy days, were actually made with cannabis.
They were made out of hemp.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Yeah, most clothes.
unidentified
Oh, you love that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, before slavery was illegal, That's what most shit was made with.
They made more clothes with hemp and more flags and sails.
All that stuff was made with hemp because it's much, much stronger than cotton.
And then when Eli Whitney came along and made the cotton gin, then it became really easy to make shit with cotton.
And then the decorticator was invented in the 1930s and the 1930s was right after prohibition for alcohol had ended and they were trying to figure out what to do with all these fucking drug enforcement agents that were you know assigned to go after alcohol and one of the things they did It was a concerted effort between this guy William Randolph Hearst that owned all the newspapers.
We also owned all these paper mills.
And the cover of Popular Science magazine had this article, Hemp, the New Billion Dollar Crop.
And so everybody was switching over to hemp because they had created this decorticator, which allows you to effectively process the hemp fiber, the stalk of the plant, which is incredibly useful for making paper and clothes.
It allowed you to process it without slavery.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Allows you to process it economically effectively.
And so William Randolph Hearst started printing all these articles about marijuana and about how marijuana was causing blacks and Mexicans to rape white women.
unidentified
Yeah.
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
So that's how they shut down the hemp business.
It was all about hemp as a commodity.
unidentified
Was he protecting cotton interests, his own cotton interests?
joe rogan
He was protecting paper because he owned paper mills.
Also, DuPont had an interest in it because DuPont came up with a chemical composition for nylon to make ropes.
Previously, all ropes had been made out of hemp.
How do you know this?
What's going on here?
It's readily available.
You can get it online.
unidentified
Just read it.
suzanne santo
It's amazing.
That is very impressive.
joe rogan
It's just memory.
That's all it is.
Look, you ask me shit about important things, like where your taxes go.
I don't really know that.
unidentified
You know what?
suzanne santo
We don't want to know.
joe rogan
You should know.
Our overlords are lying to us.
But that's the only reason why it's still legal today.
Why it's still legal today is now it's gone from a textile and an issue with nylon.
Now it's gone to pharmaceutical drugs.
And the influence of pharmaceutical drugs is the only reason why it's...
And then there's also people that would profit from it being illegal, like prison guard unions actively spend money to try to keep marijuana illegal.
Private prisons, they will actively try to spend money to keep marijuana illegal because they want to keep their prisons stocked because that's how they make money.
Isn't that amazing?
Yeah.
Prison guard unions spend money to make sure that drugs stay illegal.
That's cute.
Isn't that cute?
Because they make money.
I mean, it literally is like slavery.
I mean, if it wasn't illegal, those people wouldn't be in jail.
They'd be free.
So you make something that they do, and you spend money to keep it illegal, something they enjoy that doesn't hurt anybody else.
You spend money to keep it illegal so you can enslave them and make money from the fact that they're locked in a cage that you own.
ben jaffe
Mass incarceration.
unidentified
Whew!
joe rogan
That's amazing.
We're going to look back on this day in the future when they have full access to everything, including thoughts and all misinformation will be accounted for and corrected.
We will look back with great shame at how stupid we ran this world.
We will look back with great shame at the people that we called our leaders and what a group of fucking monkeys they are.
When you see them arguing about the fiscal cliff and all this other nonsense, you realize these are incredibly flawed human beings from a different time and an era.
And they're all trying to appease these fucking monsters that put them into position.
These corporations, they spend millions of dollars in a sociopathic way to try to profit from these fucks representing them.
We're going to look back on this, and we're going to be really, really shocked that we were this weak.
We're going to be really shocked that it was this pathetic with our incredible access to information, that we were still this wonky with our system of government and our system of money and welfare and protecting each other and our sense of community and our willingness to go into wars.
We're going to look back on it.
It's going to be shocking.
Just as shocking as the Inquisition.
suzanne santo
Well, I don't think that they don't know what they're doing.
I think that it is a joke to see how the world is run, or our country, or whatever.
Sometimes, not all the time, but I don't think that it goes under their radar.
unidentified
I think it's just like Politics and selfishness it's that but it's also completely out of control.
joe rogan
It's so big like the system is so interconnected There's hundreds of different Organizations there's more than a hundred different countries.
There's all this fucking politics There's a certain amount of natural resources that they need every fucking day.
Every fucking day.
There's so much is going on.
There's so much is going on.
There's so many different connected issues.
And so many fucking human beings.
It's so hard.
It's like people were born into this system.
It's completely chaotic.
It's completely out of control.
Completely corrupt.
And it's like everybody agrees.
Everybody looks at it and says it's a mess.
But no one knows what to do.
And they try to work within the system to fix it.
But that doesn't seem to be working.
So it's like our options are wait for it to completely fall apart.
Come up with something totally new.
Or slowly sort of chip away at this horrible problem.
That our ancestors have created and left us with.
Because that's the real issue.
It's like you and I and we didn't create this world.
We didn't decide to invade Afghanistan.
We say we are going to war with Iraq.
We have nothing to do with that.
The fact that some...
Human beings that somehow or another represent us because we're all in this one patch of dirt together is crazy.
And it's always been crazy.
It was crazy when the Romans did it.
It's crazy when the Greeks did it.
But it's even more crazy when we do it.
It's more crazy when we do it because we have the access to the information that allows us to see the wiring under the board.
And see what's really motivating this whole thing and see where this is all going from.
And it's embarrassing.
It's embarrassing.
It's embarrassing that we're so dumb.
That these are our leaders.
That guys like Newt Gingrich really think they could be president.
It's embarrassing.
It's embarrassing.
All of it.
That a guy like Mitt Romney can have this incredibly horrific record in business and still put himself up as a businessman for the people and almost get elected.
But it's just as crazy that a guy like Obama can win the Nobel Peace Prize and then send 30,000 more people with guns to Afghanistan.
We're fucking crazy.
We're crazy as shit.
ben jaffe
Yeah.
Circumstances.
joe rogan
Circumstances.
ben jaffe
It's such a...
It's just like an endless...
It's like that knot.
What's that thing?
The Gordian knot or whatever?
You know what I'm talking about?
You know when...
Okay, there's that story about Alexander the Great and he has this knot...
That no one can untie.
It's just this endlessly complex knot.
And you can't cut it.
Actually, that's what he did.
He just sliced it in half and destroyed this Gordian knot.
joe rogan
I've never heard of that.
Gordian knot?
ben jaffe
Yeah.
And you have these people.
I don't know.
joe rogan
Wow, that's the first time I've ever heard that.
ben jaffe
You're dealing with this infinitely complex situation and you still have humans that are trying to solve it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ben jaffe
So, I don't know.
I think sometimes there's...
Sometimes there's a lot of energy put towards, you know, defaming the people in power and saying, and I'm not a supporter of a lot of the people that you're talking about or the systems that govern, but I think it was interesting, like this last week, sorry to get back on this, but...
The shooting thing.
And there's this knee-jerk reaction that comes from a place of anger with a lot of people.
And I think that ends up just being wasted energy.
When people just start spouting off about how things aren't the way they should be and reacting angrily, it takes away energy from changing individual lifestyles, which is the only thing we can really do, right?
Like, that's the only thing that you can change is how you're living your life and your usage of these resources that are basically the reason why we're in all these difficult situations.
Because the way we live our lives takes up X amount of resource from, you know, Afghan Joe.
So we have to go in there and take his stuff and create, you know, complicated situations we can't get out of.
joe rogan
Right.
ben jaffe
You know, I don't know.
I'm just rambling.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
I agree with you in a lot of ways.
And I think that I would hate to have to be...
I think if you were elected president right now, you'd be fucked.
I think anybody would be.
People even with good intentions.
I think there's so many things you have to deal with.
There's so many pressures.
There's so much going on.
And, you know, as much as you want to be the voice of reason, you live in a fucking crazy world.
Pakistan still exists, okay?
It's a fucking completely disconnected country with nuclear arms and a hate for India, their next-door neighbor.
And, I mean, we had Shane Smith from Vice.com, and he was talking about how, you know, leaders from that part of the world have, like, said they want to strap themselves with nuclear bombs and go over and destroy their enemies.
I mean, they're fucking...
Fucking crazy.
And this is 2012. And this is a reality that people have to deal with.
That's why you need Navy SEALs.
You need the Army.
You need the Marines.
People don't want to think that that's real.
They don't want to think that you do need a military.
You fucking need a military, man.
Unless you want your wife raped in the street by Chinese soldiers.
And I'm not saying the Chinese want to do that.
But I'm saying that that traditionally has been what human beings have done.
That's what Genghis Khan did.
That's what the Romans did.
That's what the Greeks did.
People have been taking over people from the history from the first time people started writing things down.
It's a fucking series of stories about people taking over other people.
That's what everybody's always done.
And if you don't protect the people, then that's most likely going to happen because we really haven't evolved enough to not have it happen.
You know, it would be beautiful if everybody was all peace, love, and kumbaya.
But the reality is, if you actually pay attention to the news, there's a lot of non-kumbaya type shit going down all over the world.
You need a little bit of a military.
The problem is, you got a military and then you have a bunch of people that decide, you know, we'll fucking send these bitches over here and then we got some oil and we'll just make a lot of money.
There you go.
2012. I have no point to this.
And this bitchin' doesn't do any good.
And the only thing that could possibly help is that somebody maybe could listen to me and run for president and make some sense.
suzanne santo
That's it.
joe rogan
The young people are the only people that you can change.
You're not going to change Newt Gingrich.
That old goofy fuck.
He's not going to take mushrooms.
What are you going to do to Newt Gingrich?
How are you going to change Newt Gingrich?
You can't even slip him.
He'd freak out and have a heart attack.
Cut his dick off and drown himself in a bathtub.
He'd go crazy.
suzanne santo
Oh dear.
That's no way to go.
joe rogan
No, that's no way to go.
There's no point to this.
We've had this conversation with 100 different people 100 different times.
unidentified
I don't think that...
suzanne santo
I really get so uncomfortable talking about these things because I don't feel like I've informed myself enough to have a strong opinion.
But my instincts and just...
I agree with you that it doesn't matter who's president.
it's like you're fucked because you've inherited a mountain of shit, you know, for centuries.
I think that, unfortunately, and I'm, God forbid, but you know, I don't think that, you know, I think it's going to be something huge that's going to change everything.
I don't know what that is.
I don't know if that's something catastrophic.
I don't know if that's the aliens coming or whatever the fuck.
But something else would have to happen for anything to really change.
joe rogan
I think it's happening right in front of our face.
I think it's the internet.
suzanne santo
Oh yeah.
joe rogan
If there's an alien, I think the alien is the internet.
This alien entity that is created by humans that allows people to connect and exponentially grow together in some strange way that would never be possible without it.
To have access to information that would never be available.
And no one saw it coming.
No one saw it coming.
And it's a factor.
It's an alien factor created by human beings.
It's alien to the earth.
It's alien to any of the systems that have been set up before as far as natural systems of natural selection, of survival of the fittest.
This is an alien system.
This is an access to information and language.
suzanne santo
However, if something happens with...
joe rogan
What did you say, Brian?
suzanne santo
None of us have the know-how most people...
If the Wi-Fi gets knocked out, you know what I mean?
You lose all access to it.
joe rogan
No, that's true.
But you know what?
If your jugular gets slit, your blood falls out and you're done.
suzanne santo
God, I hope the internet isn't our jugular.
That's why I'm saying I need to learn how to live in the woods.
unidentified
Make my bows and arrows analogous to our blood.
suzanne santo
You know which ones are the good berries and the bad berries.
brian redban
You know that Ultimate Fighter star that broke his penis?
joe rogan
Yes!
unidentified
This is totally unrelated.
joe rogan
Magical Ray Elby.
Apparently he had a girl hopping up and down on his Johnson and she miscalculated her exit and re-entry and it was tanked to tip, snapped his P9 and the homeboy was in the hospital for several days getting his shaft repaired and who knows if he ever totally recovered.
suzanne santo
That must be some real force.
joe rogan
That's how an ultimate fighter fucks.
suzanne santo
Is that tendons?
Is that muscle?
joe rogan
It's dick tissue.
suzanne santo
It's officially dick tissue.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's officially dick tissue.
suzanne santo
That's my new favorite word.
joe rogan
I've never broken it, but I heard it a couple of times.
suzanne santo
That's like, you okay baby?
How's your dish you?
ben jaffe
Frothy.
joe rogan
You can't let a strange girl who doesn't know how long your penis is ride you.
You should hold firmly onto her waist and control her exit and re-entry.
Can you imagine that?
You gotta be careful.
You gotta have a good grip on the waist and you gotta do a lot of kettlebells too.
Pick her up in case she gets crazy.
You want to be able to control that thrust.
It's very important.
You know, I mean, a lot of girls would like to be on top.
There's nothing wrong with that, folks.
Don't get wrong.
But you men, protect your penis, okay?
And the way to protect your penis is a firm grip on the hips.
There's got to be a certain point where you're in danger.
When they pass this, you know how long your dick is.
suzanne santo
Was she on top for sure?
brian redban
Yeah, she was bouncing up and down.
joe rogan
That's the only way to break a dick.
unidentified
If he misfired, that falls on him.
joe rogan
You would know you were doing it and you would stop while you were doing it.
You wouldn't do it.
The only way to break a dick is a girl has to be on top.
I think that's 100% of all the broken dicks have come from a girl being on top.
ben jaffe
There's a few off-the-bed falls and stuff like that.
joe rogan
Yeah, those guys are...
That's natural selection.
They're supposed to fall.
suzanne santo
What'd you do?
Tripp landed on his dick.
It's happened.
And then you broke it.
unidentified
That dick.
joe rogan
I don't think that's happened.
Dude's tripped and landed on his dick.
In jiu-jitsu once, I used to not wear a cup.
suzanne santo
Oh my god.
unidentified
Are you insane?
joe rogan
Here comes that story again.
You love this story.
I got kneed in the dick.
Like on the dick.
I flattened my dick out.
Bam!
Really hard.
By my friend Einstein.
Incidentally.
It's a funny nickname.
He's a great guy.
Anyway, it wasn't his fault.
He was just trying to pass by guard.
And he slammed his knee into my dick.
And I didn't know I was hurt.
I mean, I knew it hurt.
But I thought it was okay.
And, you know, it's just like, ah!
And then, you know, you sit down for a minute or so.
And then you go back in.
When you...
Not in so much pain.
But then when I went to the locker room after training, I had blue shorts on or blue pants on.
I didn't know.
And I took my pants off and my jockstrap was red with blood.
suzanne santo
Oh my god.
joe rogan
So my dick had been bleeding into my jockstrap.
And then I peed and it came out of my dick.
It was bloody.
So then I had to figure out, okay, do I overreact here or do I treat it like I would treat my nose?
Because if my nose was bloody...
My nose is important to me.
If my nose was bloody, I would go to a doctor.
So this is one of the things you have to do when you do jiu-jitsu on a regular basis.
You're always getting hurt.
So you've got to know what the difference between a torn ACL is and a cramped muscle.
So I had to figure out.
So what I did was I decided I was going to masturbate.
So I went home.
suzanne santo
No, you didn't.
joe rogan
Are you retarded?
No, no, no.
I went home and I was like, if I have a hard-on...
I'm sure my dick still works, so I'm good.
So I got a hard on, and I ejaculated, and it looked like an embryo.
It looked like the inside of an egg.
unidentified
No, you don't.
suzanne santo
No, that's not it.
Please tell me that's not your jizz.
joe rogan
No, I don't have my jizz online.
My jizz is not online anyway.
suzanne santo
Thank God, because I'm not ready for that.
I don't want to see that.
joe rogan
And it came out that way.
When I peed, it came out that way for three or four days.
And it slowly, like, lasts and lasts.
So I was like, I kept touching it.
Make sure it's not infected.
There's no pain.
I checked my temperature.
No fever.
Everything's cool.
There's no infection.
So I was like, alright.
Just took a few days off.
suzanne santo
And that was it?
joe rogan
That was it.
It healed up.
I'm pretty sure it's okay.
And I made a baby since then, so it's all good.
unidentified
A blood baby.
suzanne santo
Good for you.
joe rogan
I think I made both of my babies since then, so it's 100%.
It fires.
suzanne santo
Wow.
joe rogan
But it was a little scary.
But it didn't look scary.
It looked normal on the outside.
That's why I was so confident.
It wasn't fat and swollen.
suzanne santo
How many days did it take until you felt better?
joe rogan
It didn't hurt.
That was the crazy thing.
Blood was coming out of it.
suzanne santo
That is bizarre.
joe rogan
Well, it's not bizarre when you need the dick.
suzanne santo
Ryan, what is that?
joe rogan
Oh, that is from my dick.
No.
suzanne santo
No, it's not.
Please stop.
unidentified
It's not.
joe rogan
I didn't put it online.
That's just blood.
But it was really weird.
But it was also, I was really questioning my own judgment.
I was like, did I really just jerk off after I broke my dick?
What the fuck is wrong with me?
And I was sitting there looking at the sink, looking at this, you know...
And I did it in a medical sort of way.
I didn't sit in front of a computer like, oh yeah, you fucking sexy bitch.
suzanne santo
So you really had a stern look on your face?
joe rogan
Yeah, I was all medical and shit.
I'm sure I probably thought about some ex-girlfriend or something to get the job done, but it was a clinical approach.
I wanted to make sure that my dick worked.
Did that disturb you when Nina Hartley was talking about wearing gloves when she was on Kevin Pereira's show?
brian redban
Yeah, what the hell is that about?
She'd rather have a person wear a glove and put his finger in her ass.
joe rogan
We had Nina Hartley on.
Do you know who she is?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Old school porn star from like the 80s.
And she's still doing orgies and banging people all over the world.
suzanne santo
She's old!
I do know who that is!
unidentified
What did she say?
joe rogan
I like how you said that.
unidentified
She's old!
suzanne santo
And I'm sorry, what did she say?
joe rogan
She likes to, when people wear gloves, she wears gloves and she wants them to wear gloves.
ben jaffe
Like winter gloves?
joe rogan
Like mittens?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, like big Christmas.
suzanne santo
What is it about the gloves?
unidentified
Did she...
joe rogan
She wants them to be clean.
She wants everybody to be clean.
suzanne santo
I don't blame her.
I mean...
I mean, come on.
You don't want just any finger going in there.
joe rogan
Oh, that's my fashion photography thing.
unidentified
How dare you.
joe rogan
How dare you show my ass.
How come you can show my ass on Ustream, but you can't show that hooker's tit?
brian redban
Because that's not your real butt, you told me.
joe rogan
That's my real butt.
That's not my real butt.
What the fuck is wrong with you, son?
You know what?
You guys were going to play another song about an hour ago.
suzanne santo
We don't have to.
We don't have to, honestly.
I kind of like where this is going.
unidentified
No, we would love to.
joe rogan
You guys play one.
It's called Dick Tissue.
Oh, no.
Broke.
Yo, Dick Tissue.
Do you guys have a song called Dick Tissue?
ben jaffe
Reset.
suzanne santo
No, because it's like more of a...
joe rogan
Something going on here.
suzanne santo
No, no.
I just don't know if I want to play this song.
joe rogan
What song is this?
suzanne santo
It's a new song, and it's like...
unidentified
I don't know.
ben jaffe
It's a tender one.
suzanne santo
Can we talk about...
joe rogan
Can we get soft?
Can we bring it down?
unidentified
Can we get soft?
ben jaffe
Tell us about your kids, Jill.
joe rogan
My kids are awesome.
They're awesome.
Yeah, I love them.
They're fun.
ben jaffe
Great.
joe rogan
Little girls.
I have little tiny girls that I hang out with every day.
A big part of my day is hanging out.
Like, yes, they're your children.
Like, no question.
But it's not just my children.
It's also a little four-year-old individual who happens to be a girl.
And she's experiencing all these girl things.
And I want to be like, what the fuck?
We're not going to go see that.
I don't want to go see that shit.
But whatever it is that she wants to go do, like, we have to go see the Grinch.
You have to get excited with her.
Do you want to go to the carousel?
Oh, yes!
The carousel would be so good!
I want to ride a unicorn.
Do you think the unicorn will be available?
I bet it will.
suzanne santo
Did she say available?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
She's wicked smart.
She's crazy smart.
But it's like you get to see things through the eyes of a four-year-old girl.
unidentified
Available.
joe rogan
It's really interesting.
unidentified
I love that.
joe rogan
It's fascinating.
It's incredibly fascinating.
I mean, obviously, I love her to death.
She's amazing.
I'm so happy.
Just having children is like a really incredible experience.
It's really hard to wrap your head around it.
And I don't recommend it to everybody.
And I don't recommend it to people who are in bad situations in their relationship or stressed out.
But if you've got your ducks in order and you're in a good place with a nice person, having a kid is a crazy experience.
It's going to be hard times, but when you can hang out with this little person...
That you literally love more than you love your own life.
Like you would sacrifice your own life in order to keep them happy.
It's a very strange thing.
It's like, as an entertainer, I'm sure you guys can relate to this, especially being around a lot of other entertainers.
You guys are very balanced, but not a lot of us are.
A lot of us are very me, me, me, me, me.
And it's really hard to get past that.
There's a lot of selfish ideas out there in the world of art and creativity.
And one of the things that's been really freeing to me is to actually have someone in my life, have people in my life, not just one, a gang of these little people, that I literally love more than I like me.
I want more for them than for me.
I always thought that was bullshit.
I always thought that was what people said because they wanted to hear people go, Oh, he's so sensitive.
Oh, he's so yoga.
You know what I mean?
It sounds like horseshit.
But then when you understand the actual relationship between a parent and a child, it's not just a little human being.
It's a little human being that is a part of you.
You can never understand it unless it's yours.
The biological switches that go off are very strange.
So your whole feeling about love in general changes when you have children.
And my whole outlook on human beings.
Because once I had children, I changed the way I looked at everybody.
I don't look at adults as adults anymore.
I look at adults as babies that became adults.
I look at adults as like these bundles of potential that slowly but surely became a grown-up human being.
What are you playing, Brian?
brian redban
Little baby.
joe rogan
You're playing babies eating lemons.
brian redban
Have you given your babies the lemons yet?
joe rogan
Yeah, they like lemons.
They eat them.
It's weird.
suzanne santo
Ha ha, peace.
joe rogan
Yeah, they make that face and then they bite down and chew them.
brian redban
Oh my god!
suzanne santo
There's a whole community of babies eating lemons.
brian redban
That's the best.
unidentified
Oh my god!
joe rogan
It's okay because it's not painful, but it is kind of crazy.
You know, like you don't feel like the kid's getting tortured.
Because look, they still ate it.
They don't wipe their mouth off.
They just go, whoa, what the fuck, man?
That was a lime.
That kid's a pussy.
That kid freaked out from a lime.
Lime's not even that bad, you little fuck.
When I was a kid, we had to walk 20 miles in the snow just to get a lime.
unidentified
Lies.
suzanne santo
Lies you tell.
joe rogan
You feel like, are we in the right groove now?
ben jaffe
We might have gotten there.
joe rogan
What's this next song?
suzanne santo
Well, it's...
unidentified
Okay, it's kind of called...
suzanne santo
It's got a weird name.
I'm not sure if this is what we're going to call it.
But the chorus is, what you going to do now?
And it's not like water you're going to do now.
Like spelling it out, you know?
So like...
joe rogan
So this is not even named yet?
suzanne santo
Not really, no.
joe rogan
We have a chance to hear a song that's not even named.
suzanne santo
Maybe you can name it Joe.
joe rogan
Maybe we'll ask the people on Twitter to name it.
People on Ustream, if you have some good...
Maybe not.
Maybe not.
We're not guaranteeing shit.
But if you come up with the perfect name and Ben and Suzanne go, holy shit, that guy, fuckstick69, cold-blooded, he found it.
We found the right name.
suzanne santo
Maybe Balls of Steel can help us out here.
joe rogan
Balls of Steel, where are you?
You introduced us.
ben jaffe
Then he disappeared.
joe rogan
No, he's still on my board.
He's still on my board.
We are all Balls of Steel.
unidentified
Bloody Balls.
joe rogan
Bloody Balls of Steel.
Shout out to Duncan Trussell.
unidentified
Aww.
brian redban
That heart is steel.
suzanne santo
He's the Ball of Steel.
joe rogan
Him, Tom Green, and Lance Armstrong can form a trio.
suzanne santo
Dude.
joe rogan
What's it called?
ben jaffe
New Planetary Avengers.
joe rogan
Trio.
ben jaffe
It's Trio.
joe rogan
I want to see a triette.
You know, quartet sounds better than trio.
suzanne santo
A triette?
joe rogan
Trio sounds like a...
suzanne santo
We'll work that out next time we come in.
joe rogan
Okay.
ben jaffe
Got to take one more main fall away.
joe rogan
So, the working title?
suzanne santo
Yeah.
Whatcha gonna do now?
joe rogan
Whatcha gonna do now?
Ladies and gentlemen on Twitter, now's your time to be heard.
unidentified
All right.
joe rogan
Ben and Suzanne are listening.
suzanne santo
Yeah.
And judging you.
Just kidding.
unidentified
We're not.
suzanne santo
We accept you.
Oh, baby, that fire's coming down.
unidentified
Bye.
Right into your walls, right out of your mouth.
Everything you love just dash on the ground.
Oh babe, so what you gonna do now?
So you run to the river, you run to the sea.
You sift through the road and search the debris.
But you won't find anything if you don't find peace.
Oh babe, so what you gonna do now?
Don't wait until you die.
Can always change your mind, make you right So why you're still waiting outside?
suzanne santo
Maybe your mama didn't treat you right Maybe you just didn't sleep last night You know I don't give a damn why you wanna fight
Ooh, babe, so what you gonna do now?
unidentified
Cause I'll be down that door you locked in your chest.
Swallow the key throughout the gas.
And I'm standing here where everyone lives.
Who breaks?
What you gonna do now?
Don't wait until you die.
Yeah!
You can always change your mind and make it bad.
So why ain't you still waiting outside?
To come out from the weeds and into my arms Thanks.
suzanne santo
Oh babe, I know the dark and how it can harm you.
unidentified
Yeah, now that my conscience ripped me apart too.
So here's what we're gonna do now.
Take all your needs and all your sins.
All of the losses you threw to the wind.
suzanne santo
And we'll carry the weight if it breaks everything.
unidentified
And that's what we're gonna do now.
suzanne santo
that's what we're gonna do now Hey, thanks.
joe rogan
I really liked that one.
That was great.
suzanne santo
Cool.
joe rogan
Wow, that's badass.
Play another one.
unidentified
Fuck.
joe rogan
One more?
suzanne santo
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
Come on, you fucks.
You guys are professionals.
How dare you?
ben jaffe
I can't play fiddle right now.
joe rogan
What are you going to play?
What is it?
God of Love?
ben jaffe
That's kind of a bummer one.
joe rogan
No, it's not.
suzanne santo
It's so great.
It's a song that Ben wrote and I think it's awesome.
joe rogan
Why do you think it's a bummer?
ben jaffe
Because of the lyrics and how it sounds?
But what else?
joe rogan
It sounds badass.
I want to hear the God of Love.
suzanne santo
That's us putting it out there.
We've never played it live before.
unidentified
So what?
suzanne santo
Do it!
joe rogan
Listen, we love you.
Do it.
Make it happen.
ben jaffe
I don't care.
We can try.
suzanne santo
Okay, I hope you guys just accept us out there.
ben jaffe
Okay, hold on.
unidentified
Shhh, here we go.
suzanne santo
Oh God of love If there is one You got me pinned So I tap your arm And I slap the floor I try to tag out But I got no team Makes me sad.
unidentified
I don't.
And I'm the jealous guy.
And I don't need to prove it to you.
Yeah, I can be an angry woman.
I can look right through you.
What do I have to do?
suzanne santo
Get on my hands and knees.
unidentified
What do I have to do?
Buy a rosary.
Oh, what do you need for me?
Won't you tell me, please?
Oh God of love, make me a fine prince Won't you lock me down, savage my innocence Give me hands to hold, give me skin to taste Give him my hips to throw And I'll give him my time to waste And I'll do you right And I'll praise your name And I'll pay your tab Even
suzanne santo
though you drive me crazy What do I have to do?
Get on my hands and knees What do I have to do?
unidentified
By a rosary Oh, what do you need for me?
Oh, why don't you tell me?
There it is.
suzanne santo
There it is.
unidentified
Bye.
suzanne santo
And it's what I got What I've been waiting for Cause I feel confused Feel like a train wreck Like all the flowers died And it ain't winter yet And I'm the quiet guy And I'm a silent soul So won't you help me stand and pay my toll?
unidentified
What do I have to do?
suzanne santo
Get on my hands and knees What do I have to do?
unidentified
What do you need from me?
suzanne santo
Won't you tell me, please?
unidentified
Won't you tell me, please?
Please?
That wasn't a bummer at all.
joe rogan
That was awesome.
Dude, that was awesome.
How about The Ballad of Buck Angel?
unidentified
I'm so glad you said that, because I was really hoping...
joe rogan
Trosty Tragsvagason on Twitter suggested that.
The Ballad of Buck Angel.
suzanne santo
Really?
Fuck yeah, dude.
I want to hang out with that guy.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah, dude.
With that guy or Buck Angel, which one?
suzanne santo
I've already hung out with Buck Angel.
I mean, come on.
Look at this.
He's such a kind man.
ben jaffe
Very tender.
suzanne santo
Very tender.
unidentified
And really, like, very soft-lived.
Genuinely...
Both of them.
suzanne santo
I was just going to say, which one's you talking about?
brian redban
I'm sure one's not soft.
Barf!
suzanne santo
Yeah, he just puked on his laptop.
joe rogan
I almost did.
Yeah, I don't mind trannies, but not that kind.
That's a little strong.
Trannies going the other way.
suzanne santo
Yeah, there's different ways to slice it, no pun intended.
joe rogan
I seem to be more compatible with the men who want to be women than with the women who want to be men.
Those confuse me more.
suzanne santo
More compatible.
unidentified
That was such a PC way.
joe rogan
Well, if you looked at it, as a man, what would you choose?
We have to wrap this up soon.
What would you choose?
Would you rather be the man who dates the man who used to be a woman but is now a man?
suzanne santo
Okay.
joe rogan
Or, you know what I mean?
suzanne santo
Are you asking me personally, Joe?
Because I don't really know how to answer that question.
joe rogan
I should ask Ben.
Would you rather date a Buck Angel who's clearly very manly But has a vagina.
Or like a little tie.
A little tie boy.
unidentified
A Twinkie.
joe rogan
A Twinkie type situation.
How dare you!
Who becomes a woman.
You would rather have that, right?
You would rather have a man who at least looks like a woman.
ben jaffe
You're saying like a manly vagina having a man?
joe rogan
Buck Angel's truly a man.
Truly a man, but not really.
Really is a woman.
Has a vagina.
Would you rather have that?
Or would you rather have a guy who used to be a guy but wanted to be a girl, who felt like he was a girl, but really looks like a girl?
ben jaffe
Are they going to listen to me when I talk to them?
joe rogan
Are they going to listen to you?
ben jaffe
What are we going to talk about?
joe rogan
Do you really need that?
Don't you have friends?
unidentified
Come on.
joe rogan
What's going on?
Is that what you really want out of a relationship?
You want them to listen to you?
Get a dog, man.
Dogs will listen to you.
unidentified
He does.
suzanne santo
He's got Larry Bird.
Larry Bird fucking loves Ben.
And he does talk to you.
joe rogan
You won't need a relationship anymore.
Just jerk off and have Larry Bird in your life and cut all the complications out, man.
brian redban
Twink's a short name for a transsexual, right?
joe rogan
No, twinks are little gay fellas who are fairly non-muscular and very boy-like.
brian redban
What do they call them in China?
unidentified
Oh, you son of a bitch.
joe rogan
Oh, you son of a bitch.
And he fucking prepared that one.
He prepared that one in his shitty little mind for like an hour.
brian redban
Oh, like 20 seconds.
joe rogan
For like an hour.
He was rolling around how to introduce that one.
Son of a bitch.
Son of a bitch!
suzanne santo
Not controversial.
joe rogan
Thursday night, Red Band will be at the Improv in Hollywood the night before the End of the World show.
Joey Diaz is going to be there.
I'm most likely going to be there.
Let's just say I'm going to be there.
Okay, you're there.
Yeah, like I said, there's only 60 tickets left for the Wiltern.
With Honey Honey.
brian redban
Honey Honey wants to come.
She can come too.
If you guys want to the night before.
joe rogan
Can Ben come too, you fuck?
brian redban
I said Honey Honey.
joe rogan
Yeah, he said she can come.
brian redban
Oh.
joe rogan
Okay, they are a group.
It's them.
It's not she.
unidentified
It's them.
suzanne santo
Look, you gotta make out with both of us.
unidentified
I don't care.
joe rogan
He will do that.
He has no fear.
unidentified
Black power pills?
joe rogan
He has no fear of making out with Ben while he has sex with you.
brian redban
Trust me, I'm under the influence for three days, so you got me.
joe rogan
The kid's Randy and Reddy, ladies and gentlemen.
unidentified
If you're in the Pasadena area, Brian Redman giving out sperm.
All righty.
joe rogan
Brian Redman to the main stage.
brian redban
Alright, you guys.
I've got some frothy loads for you.
joe rogan
$14 margaritas.
Step on up.
brian redban
And they don't yell out because there's some pee in it.
joe rogan
Alright.
Ruined it again, you fuck.
You son of a bitch.
Settle the fuck down.
Okay.
This show essentially is over.
suzanne santo
This was a fun one.
It got dark.
brian redban
Thank you for having us.
suzanne santo
But it was good.
joe rogan
Thank you guys for being on it.
You know, if it wasn't for you guys, we probably would have never went down the road of musical guests.
It's been really fun.
suzanne santo
You guys were the first.
Dude, Balls of Steel.
Whatever it was, it was in the fucking stars for us, guys.
joe rogan
Yeah, I think it was.
suzanne santo
It's friendship.
joe rogan
It was, I mean, the guy, if you don't know the story, a guy on my message board sent me a message, a personal message that said, this is going to be your new favorite band.
And it was you guys playing Angel of Death on the top of a roof somewhere in LA. And it was an acoustic version of it.
And I was like, wow.
These guys are fucking good.
And then I just started, I think I saw My Little Toy Gun.
I think that was the next song I saw.
And I just watched a bunch of your videos.
And I'm like, holy shit, these guys are awesome.
And somehow or another we all got together and now we're besties.
unidentified
Yeah.
suzanne santo
It's pretty awesome.
I like what's happening here, guys.
joe rogan
It's beautiful.
One of the coolest things about the internet is the ability to connect people.
The other cool thing?
Stalkers.
suzanne santo
That's not cool at all.
I disagree very strongly.
joe rogan
I'm being facetious.
That's the problem with the ability to connect people.
Some people are just not fully developed.
They're not ready.
suzanne santo
They're not ready for others.
You know, not to segue from stalkers at all, because that's like a wrong place to go from, but I do want to have a little shout out and a thank you to all the amazing Death Squad fans that have come to our shows.
There's some incredible people that we've met on our...
joe rogan
Don't you ever think you'd be thanking a Death Squad?
suzanne santo
During our travels.
joe rogan
Just stop and think about how weird that is.
I'd like to thank the Death Squad.
Did you ever think those words would come out of your mouth?
suzanne santo
I don't think I would, no.
joe rogan
Well, we never thought we would call ourselves the Death Squad either.
suzanne santo
Why do you call them the Death Squad?
joe rogan
We were on the Opie and Anthony show.
What was it, 2006 or some shit like that?
Yeah.
Opie, when we walked in, I walked in with Tate Fletcher, this big giant dude from The Ultimate Fighter, a good buddy of ours, and Eddie Bravo, who's a black belt in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu.
And Opie goes, oh, here's Joe Rogan.
He brought in the death squad, like there's these people that were killers.
And we just, as a joke, started calling ourselves a death squad.
That's really funny.
Because he said that.
And then Brian started the Death Squad Podcast Network.
And it sort of spread through that.
And then Brian started selling the Death Squad t-shirts.
And then people showed up at shows.
And they're all wearing these Death Squad t-shirts.
And now people put hashtag Death Squad.
suzanne santo
It's hashtagged all over the place.
Yeah, it's crazy.
joe rogan
And Brian does Death Squad shows.
He calls the comedy shows Death Squad shows.
It just was a crazy thing that sort of just grew and became weird.
brian redban
It's like our group of friends, our gang.
If you're on the Death Squad, we pretty much approve of your comedy, what you do.
suzanne santo
Can musicians be in your Death Squad?
joe rogan
Oh yeah, you're in the Death Squad.
You guys are 100% Death Squad approved unanimously.
We voted right now.
suzanne santo
I'm so happy.
I'm so excited.
joe rogan
It's a noise, but we don't really mean the connotation of those words to connect it together like death squad.
It became something else.
And even though it has that name, we don't think of any...
There's no death involved.
There's no squad.
It's like a bunch of silly happy people.
You know?
But they just ironically call themselves Death Squad.
ben jaffe
With the Highland cap, too.
unidentified
That really doesn't...
joe rogan
Tomorrow, ladies and gentlemen, will be our 300th motherfucking episode.
suzanne santo
You were 299?
joe rogan
Yes, you guys were 299. And joining us tomorrow will be none other than the great Joey Coco Diaz.
Allegedly.
You never know with Joey.
You never know what's gonna happen.
It's part of the fun.
brian redban
And it's also baby week, too.
You never know if he's night.
joe rogan
Joey Diaz's wife is about to hatch.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
A new Joey Diaz.
Push that back in there.
A female Joey Diaz who will no doubt be the funniest girl in preschool.
It's just going to come out of Joey.
brian redban
The cats are going to babysit the kid tonight, huh?
joe rogan
Cracking jokes right away.
It's going to be very interesting.
Joey will be with us Friday night at The Wiltern.
Honey, honey.
Joey Diaz.
Doug Stanhope.
And me!
brian redban
It's going to be awesome.
joe rogan
And listen, I got all these emails from all these different people saying they're coming from all over the world.
We appreciate the fuck out of that.
And we're very excited.
And I'm so glad that we...
Doug and I talked about doing this.
Probably in 2003 when we first started doing our shitty version of The Man Show.
We said we should have an end of the world party and we're doing it.
JoeRogan.net, my comedy special.
It's already out.
I was supposed to not talk about it until tomorrow but a bunch of people have already saw it on Twitter while this podcast was going on.
And said they loved it, which I'm very happy here.
I'm really happy for it.
I would never put it out if it sucked.
I worked really hard on this.
It was like a good, solid year of preparation.
And then it was a long time to set up the infrastructure to sell this and to be able to distribute it online.
What Louis C.K. did is a real game changer.
It sort of changed the way a lot of people, certainly the way I think about it.
Releasing things like this was never even an option or a consideration until we started doing this podcast.
So thank you very much.
We appreciate the fuck out of you guys.
We're all in this together.
It's helping me as much as it's helping you guys.
I swear to God.
I don't even believe in God.
I swear to him.
I believe in Odin.
And send him praise.
Praise Odin, ladies and gentlemen.
It's not that I don't believe in God.
It's that I don't believe in him, and I don't not believe in him.
If he was there, I wouldn't be shocked.
I wouldn't be shocked.
Life itself is fucking crazy enough as it is.
brian redban
God is an operating system, Joe.
joe rogan
Could be.
God could be the guy who programmed the simulation.
He could be some autistic kid in Seattle.
With a fucking laptop.
Alright, you fucks.
Look, we love the shit out of ya.
We're sending out positive messages to you.
Take them in and do with them what you will.
And we'll see you tomorrow.
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