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Dec. 11, 2012 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #295 - Tom Segura, Christina Pazsitzky
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christina pazsitzky
13:59
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joe rogan
01:33:32
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tom segura
34:39
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brian redban
01:11
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joe rogan
Now we're live on Ustream.
It's a series of events that have to take place, Tommy Bunz.
tom segura
I like it.
joe rogan
Including me shutting off my laptop.
tom segura
Oh, really?
joe rogan
No, my volume.
I'm a retard.
I always leave it on.
There's like a checklist of shit that I should do before the podcast starts.
Number one, turn the volume off on my laptop so I don't hear myself.
That's stupid, right?
tom segura
I'm sure we should put together a list.
joe rogan
Put together a list.
tom segura
Checklist.
joe rogan
I need to get my shit together, Tommy.
It doesn't look like it's getting any better.
The Joe Rogan Experience Podcast is brought to you by Onnit.
If you go to O-N-N-I-T, you will check out some manly shit like kettlebells and battle ropes.
That's the kind of shit I be using lately.
I hired a trainer recently.
tom segura
Did you really?
joe rogan
Yeah, this young dude that I do jiu-jitsu with that's always in awesome shape and kicks my ass.
These fucking workouts are so brutal.
tom segura
Are you doing like cross-training style stuff?
joe rogan
Well, I feel like if you don't have someone yelling at you, you know, getting you to do shit, it's like no matter how hard you push yourself, you don't quite push yourself as hard.
tom segura
It's not even close, man.
That's exactly why I don't push myself.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, that's exactly right.
joe rogan
I just started doing that recently.
It's pretty badass.
tom segura
I hire somebody every once in a while for like a month, and I'm like, that shit's too hard.
joe rogan
This kid's name is Justin.
He trains at my gym, and I would watch him as a trainer, and I'm like, this guy never gets fucking tired.
So I said, I go, what are you doing for conditioning?
He told me he's a trainer.
And so I said, let me work out with you one day.
He had me doing all kinds of insane shit.
tom segura
How long the workouts are you doing?
joe rogan
It's only an hour.
That's all I can take.
tom segura
But intense hour is awesome.
joe rogan
Oh, it's retarded, dude.
It's all like medicine balls and jumping over this and jumping squats and all this nutty track and field shit and jumping over boxes and push-ups left to right, left to right, left to right.
All this crazy conditioning type shit.
Holy fuck is it hard to do.
tom segura
Every time I've done a workout with a trainer and it's been like an hour, I'm always amazed at how little I usually accomplish in an hour.
You know what I mean?
Because you finish with a trainer and you're like, Man, we did that in an hour.
I usually spend an hour and I do a fraction of one of those things.
joe rogan
It's hard to really fucking buckle down.
I can do it a little bit.
I can do it every now and again.
But I think on a regular basis, sometimes you need to take a class or something to have someone yell at you.
tom segura
It's like working with a deadline.
You ever work with a deadline and you realize what you accomplished?
And then when you're on your own again, you're like, yeah.
joe rogan
Fucking lazy bitch.
What's wrong with me?
tom segura
I've worked with a deadline a few times from the road, and I'm like, holy shit how much work I just accomplished this weekend.
And then it's usually the opposite thought, like, holy shit, I went the entire weekend without doing one product.
I got up, and I went down to do the show, and I dropped off four times, and that's it, and that's the day.
joe rogan
It's amazing how much time you can waste.
But it's a crazy feeling when you set the bar really high, And you accomplish something in a short period of time.
You accomplish a lot of things.
Because then, you know, you've got to keep that pace up.
That's brutal.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's hard.
tom segura
It's very hard.
joe rogan
The creative pace.
This has nothing to do with Onnit.com.
tom segura
That's all right.
That was a fun time.
joe rogan
But whatever, folks.
Go buy some vitamins for your brain.
Some Shroom Tech Sport.
We have hemp protein powder, we have kettlebells, as I said, battle ropes, all kinds of cool shit, all of it.
Health and fitness related and mental focus and clarity related.
tom segura
You still have the sleep one?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, it's not a sleep one.
It's a mood booster.
It's a 5-HTP and L-tryptophan supplement.
unidentified
Does it have melatonin in it?
joe rogan
No.
I don't think so.
Does it?
I should know that.
Let's Google it.
Because it's...
Bing it.
Don't do it.
Don't you bing.
unidentified
Bing all of it.
joe rogan
What it does...
unidentified
Did you get boot blade, Joe?
joe rogan
What it does is it's 5-HTP. It makes your brain produce serotonin.
And...
L-tryptophan converts to 5-HTP. So it, like, literally, it acts as...
Sort of a time-released formula for helping your body produce essentially what makes you happy.
tom segura
But people have heard, because I haven't tried it, but I've heard other people talk about since they started, they sleep better.
They said, they told me.
joe rogan
Well, there's a lot of things that can make you sleep better.
Zinc, zinc's a good one.
Zinc, magnesium stuff.
tom segura
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, that stuff is good.
It really helps you really get a good deep sleep.
But a lot of people have a good success with melatonin.
Melatonin has...
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, I've tried valerian root, but that gave me psychedelic dreams.
tom segura
Crazy dreams.
unidentified
Really?
tom segura
Have you ever tried it?
unidentified
I'm going to now.
tom segura
You have to try it.
unidentified
That seems amazing.
tom segura
I've had bananas fucking dreams on that thing before.
christina pazsitzky
You turn into a gnome.
unidentified
Wow, that's awesome.
It's like nature sleeping.
joe rogan
The craziest shit I've ever done is the alpha brain dreams.
tom segura
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, alpha brain.
Especially, it seems like the old formula may be fucked with your head even more than the new formula.
Either that or I'm used to it.
unidentified
I just got headaches.
joe rogan
I'm not sure.
But what it used to do to me was give me these crazy lucid dreams.
They were really strange because they were so much more potent than my normal dreams.
This is how I describe it.
My normal dreams are like A bubble that a kid would blow when they're blowing those soap bubbles.
It's so fragile.
These dreams were like basketballs.
They were hard.
They were real.
It was really strange because I was aware that I was dreaming, but I was still able to maintain the dream state.
I've never been able to do that before.
I've maybe been able to do that for brief seconds.
I've never tried.
Apparently there's this thing called Lucid dreaming, where you can actually practice certain techniques that can aid you into literally manipulating your dreams.
tom segura
That's awesome.
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't know.
I've never tried it.
I'm too scared that I would like that too much and I would fucking forget real life.
I'm fucking badass in my dreams.
tom segura
Love a good dream.
joe rogan
I would be worried.
unidentified
I would be worried that I wouldn't dedicate enough time to real life.
tom segura
That's like virtual living, right?
Yeah, I guess.
There are times when you wake up from a dream and you're like, the dream was so awesome.
You want to go back to sleep.
joe rogan
I don't know if anybody's that much of a master that they can really control it that much.
christina pazsitzky
I think a little bit, if I focus on what I want to dream about next, I just did it yesterday.
I don't know why, but I wanted to dream about Phyllis Diller.
I was obsessed with her yesterday.
I'm like, I dreamed about Phyllis Diller, and I went to sleep and I did.
joe rogan
It's Phyllis Diller, wow.
Why were you obsessed with Phyllis Diller?
christina pazsitzky
I think because Tommy's cousin came over and Phyllis Diller sent me a note that I had framed.
She encouraged me before she died in my career, so I just have this bond with her.
I love her.
I'm fascinated with her life and everything.
Wow.
unidentified
And I just wanted to, I don't know, want to talk to her or something.
Phyllis.
tom segura
So did you dream about her?
christina pazsitzky
I dreamt about her house, yes.
I dreamt that I slept in her bed and that it split in two and I fell on the floor.
joe rogan
We've got to give you some alpha brain.
See if it fucks with your head.
christina pazsitzky
I think it's too late.
unidentified
Hit that joint.
tom segura
You take the alpha brain, you'll come back with like, I just did a year tour with Phyllis Diller.
You'll have like stories about the road.
joe rogan
Anyway, we've got to get through these stupid commercials.
unidentified
Don't hit that joint.
joe rogan
I'm afraid of that.
unidentified
I'm having a heart attack right now.
joe rogan
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All right, you freak, freak bitches.
That sound good?
tom segura
I like that.
joe rogan
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Isn't that what it is?
unidentified
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joe rogan
You work here!
That's not it.
I'll find it.
I'll find the URL while I do this.
But what's important is what Ting is.
And Ting is a cell phone company that uses Sprint's backbone.
But what they do is they make it really fair.
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You can quit whenever you want.
It's the same service that you get with Sprint, but it's like they don't have you as locked into this sort of a shitty situation that you can get in with a regular cell phone company.
A regular cell phone company, when you buy a phone, like say if you buy a phone and it costs like $500, what it really costs is probably more than that.
It probably really costs like $700, but they take it and they apply it to your contract so that if you are going to stick with them for three years and give them X amount of dollars a month, then it's worth it for them To sort of take that money, take a little piece of that and pay off that phone.
Well, when you want to leave early, that's why you have to pay these cancellation fees.
unidentified
Cancellation fees, yeah.
joe rogan
Like several hundred dollars, you know?
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
That doesn't happen with Ting.
You can get the exact same services you get with Sprint.
So it's like really good cell phone services, shit Joey Diaz swears by.
And it's, um, you also get...
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It's the best cocksucker.
unidentified
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joe rogan
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I have the Samsung Galaxy S3, and it's the shit.
It's fucking awesome.
It's a beautiful phone.
It used to be that it was iPhones or crap, and that's just not the case anymore.
These really beautiful, big Android phones, they get my dick hard.
Oops, I said it.
I said it.
The client's not happy about this.
It's not a part of the written text.
tom segura
We're listening to your live read.
joe rogan
Once you get online with one of those, man, it's so hard to go back to even an iPhone.
When you get online and you look at websites, it's almost like having a tablet.
They're fucking huge.
It's like 4.8 inches and they have a Galaxy.
I don't know if these guys carry it.
But there's a new one that Samsung has called the Galaxy Note that is just preposterous.
It is a fucking iPad Mini.
tom segura
I've seen those.
unidentified
I've seen those.
joe rogan
It's an iPad Mini, goddammit.
unidentified
It's huge!
joe rogan
But I get such screen envy when I see it.
I got that from the Galaxy S3, having that thing.
It's changed the way I look at it.
I used to think they were too big.
I don't think so.
tom segura
It was pretty cool.
unidentified
All these phones have 7 o'clock on them, I just realized.
joe rogan
Dude, it's a lucky number, man.
A lot of people have superstitious.
A lot of people are scared.
tom segura
You see somebody at a show take pictures, when they take pictures with that Samsung, you look at it and you're like, whoa.
It's like someone brought up the photo on a computer.
It's so much clearer and brighter.
unidentified
It's huge!
joe rogan
It's a huge goddamn screen.
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And you will save 50 bucks off of any of those Android devices.
All right, you dirty fucks.
Thank you all for listening in.
Brian, play the music.
Let's get a rolling.
unidentified
Joe Rogan Experience.
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joe rogan
That was one of our longest yet most enjoyable commercials.
tom segura
Fantastic.
joe rogan
Because it wasn't...
I mean, it wasn't and wasn't.
You know what I'm saying, man?
tom segura
I know what you're saying, darling.
joe rogan
You with me, brother?
I mean, it was a little bit of both going on there.
Tom Segura and Christina P. I gotta give you guys world champion funniest couple.
unidentified
Yeah!
joe rogan
Thanks, man.
And the breaking of the mold of every entertainer with an entertainer is in a shit relationship.
tom segura
Sure.
joe rogan
You guys have totally fixed that.
tom segura
Yeah, thanks, man.
joe rogan
Because it's always like the dude's funny and the chick is good looking and he writes jokes for her.
It's like one of those.
Or it's that the guy's funny and he takes the girl with him on the road.
It's very rare that there's equals.
tom segura
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
But you guys are both really funny, and you really love each other.
You get along, and it's like a weird situation.
tom segura
And hot.
We're both hot.
christina pazsitzky
We're both hot as fuck.
joe rogan
Hairy.
That's a weird situation.
It actually works.
christina pazsitzky
So lucky.
tom segura
Yeah, we get asked about it all the time.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, we do.
joe rogan
You think one of you guys would suck?
It's usually one of you sucks.
unidentified
Right?
joe rogan
Am I right?
tom segura
For sure.
unidentified
Oh, definitely.
joe rogan
It's usually like you have to hang out with this guy's really annoying wife who's also a comedian or really annoying husband who's also a comedian.
tom segura
Oh, yeah.
And she actually has less tolerance for it.
When we go out with other couples, she's always like, don't leave me at the table with some boring fucking cunt.
unidentified
I hate it.
tom segura
While you go have fun with the guys.
christina pazsitzky
Because here's why.
When we hang out with other comics, it's usually dudes and then they have wives that maybe not are as inspiring.
And I always want to hang out with the dudes and talk shit about comedy.
And then I always get stuck swapping fucking recipes for Apple Brown Betty.
I'm like, I don't want to talk about clothes, man.
Let's talk about some shit.
joe rogan
They defined you by your vagina.
unidentified
No!
joe rogan
You got lumped into the wrong group.
Oh shit, speaking of which, did you hear about this fucking 50-year-old guy who had a sex change and now he's playing college basketball?
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
He's playing college woman's basketball.
He's enormous.
tom segura
Wait, now did he...
I don't know about...
Hold on.
You just made me really think about this.
Did he have college eligibility?
Or did he already go to college as a man and then since he switched sexes he has new four years of eligibility to play?
Because that would be so awesome if he did that way.
joe rogan
Dude, this thing, this guy, okay, I'm probably a very sweet person, I shouldn't say thing, but this dude Slash woman.
Woman now?
Did I say woman?
I don't know.
The woman that used to be a man, let's call her a woman, she is six foot six.
tom segura
Whoa.
joe rogan
Wow.
That's like a giant man.
That's huge.
And she's decided that she's a girl now.
So she has the sex change operation, but she's still a 6'6 man-bodied woman.
That's a big bitch, dude.
I'm looking at all these little girls that are playing with her.
Man, if your daughter was playing basketball with a dude that was pretending to be a woman or decided to become a woman, You can't...
That's all fine and good for the real world if you want to define yourself as a woman.
But when you enter into athletics, there's a reason why there is fucking different categories for men and women.
That shit's not fair.
unidentified
So it's not fair?
christina pazsitzky
You think it's an unfair advantage?
joe rogan
Oh my god!
unidentified
It's an enormous man!
That's crazy!
tom segura
The other thing is, too, is because the one thing that's hard, I think, when you're not involved in this, but you see somebody, let's say, who gets...
A sex change.
And I'm saying outside of sports, right?
Just in life.
joe rogan
Right.
tom segura
You go, they're like, hey, you know, I've decided to do this.
I'm a woman now.
And you go, okay.
You want to be like, fine, you're a woman now.
But there's that part in my mind that always goes, yeah, but when I look at your hands, even if you've had surgery and everything, those are still men's hands.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tom segura
You know what I'm saying?
Those are men's arms that you have and legs.
Even if you have, like...
Implants in and you change your whole face, that's still a guy's bicep in your arm.
Even though you had a sex change.
So if you take that to sports...
christina pazsitzky
So he's playing as a man, yeah.
tom segura
That's where it all counts.
That's where your original biology...
joe rogan
And it counts the other way as well because there was a guy who was a Muay Thai fighter and he was really like a high-level fighter and he decided to get a sex change.
And then once he got a sex change, he literally got his balls cut off, stopped producing testosterone, and started getting the fuck beat out of him.
tom segura
No shit, really?
joe rogan
Yeah, because he was still fighting men.
He was still fighting men, but he didn't have balls anymore.
So it's not exactly that this six foot tall person that was a man is a woman, but it's not exactly that he's a man either.
He's sort of in this weird limbo state.
But he still has this unfair mechanical advantage.
That's a giant person.
He's got huge shoulders, huge hands.
If you're playing against a little girl, that's just stupid.
christina pazsitzky
Well, and it is like those athletes, weren't they saying that the people that had prosthetic limbs, like the runners with those special, you know what I mean, those legs?
tom segura
Prosthetics.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, that they were like, that's an unfair advantage.
You're so lucky to be crippled.
tom segura
Well, the one guy made it in.
joe rogan
Well, I don't want to say that anybody would be lucky to be crippled.
christina pazsitzky
No, but they were saying that.
joe rogan
But I don't think they were really saying that.
What they were really saying is, realistically, let's look at what's going on here.
There's a mechanical advantage to those things that surpasses the human body.
These are springs.
You're running on these crazy sprinting springs.
Those things work like a motherfucker.
It seems like they work better than legs.
So that is different.
tom segura
Well, one thing that can't happen for sure with those on is you cannot tear your Achilles.
It's like, literally, you don't have one.
You can't tear your ACL if it's up to your quad.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, the whole thing is really, I mean, you would never want to say that there's anyone that has any sort of advantage to being handy.
tom segura
No, no, that's not the point.
joe rogan
You know what I'm saying?
I mean, it's a sensitive issue.
I mean, we're all very lucky that we're not.
tom segura
Thank God, of course.
unidentified
Of course.
joe rogan
But when you do see that you can run faster with that, at what point in time do you let that go?
If the world record becomes a guy with robot legs, you know what I mean?
How do you define the athletics then?
tom segura
That guy was in the Olympics this summer with prosthetics.
Remember that?
joe rogan
Yes.
tom segura
The sprinter?
Was he South African?
unidentified
I don't know.
tom segura
I forget where he was from.
I think he was.
It was cool to see him in the event.
He didn't win or medal, which made it...
Less of an issue.
You know, people didn't press it, but they were pressing it before he got in.
Everybody was, people were saying...
unidentified
Or that South African runner, remember, when we were in South Africa?
christina pazsitzky
Was she, she was both genders or something, and everyone was upset about her?
tom segura
No, well that was, people were accusing her of being a hermaphrodite, and they put her through this way.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, that's right.
christina pazsitzky
Was she at the end of the day?
tom segura
No, she's a woman, but she was put through really brutal, horrendous scrutiny.
And people were awful to her.
joe rogan
And she definitely is a woman, 100%?
tom segura
I'm almost certain.
I just forgot her name.
I blanked on her name, too.
But she is South African.
And the country, they adore her.
Really?
Yeah, because people really were horrible to her during the scrutiny.
joe rogan
Right, right, right.
tom segura
Yeah, but I'm fairly certain she's legitimately...
christina pazsitzky
Gosh, you know, though, I mean, if you go through the trouble of cutting your peener off and doing all that, just let the girl play basketball.
tom segura
But that's not her.
joe rogan
The problem is it's not let her play basketball.
It's let her play basketball with the little girl.
There's all these little girls that are playing.
They're like, they just went to college.
They're 18. This is a 50-year-old man.
tom segura
This is fucking bananas.
That one is crazy.
joe rogan
Okay, that shit is bananas.
tom segura
What school is this?
joe rogan
Let me see here.
christina pazsitzky
Poor guy, poor girl.
joe rogan
Yes, you're right, you're right, absolutely.
unidentified
For God's sake.
joe rogan
Yeah, you know, God bless him.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, his whole life, he just wanted to be on the ladies' team, and now it's happening.
joe rogan
Yes, sort of, but it's not fair.
I mean, it's just not.
christina pazsitzky
Life's never fair.
joe rogan
The problem is, once you start having competitive athletics, it's like with any other thing in life, do whatever you want to do.
If you want to go to work with a dress, if you're nice, I'll talk to you.
I don't need you to dress like a man.
Whatever your fucking thing is, if you're nice, I don't care, I'll talk to you.
But you have to recognize the mechanical advantages to the male frame.
unidentified
Of course.
joe rogan
I mean, the tendon strength, even when there's a depletion of testosterone and your body sort of shrivels up a little bit and you lose muscle mass, it's still a goddamn man!
tom segura
And the overwhelming evidence is if you look at men's, if you line up men's and women's results for athletic competition, there's a reason why every single one, basically, the men are more advanced.
They run faster, they jump higher.
christina pazsitzky
But then you guys are going to get the anomalies.
Every now and then there is a woman that can do as many push-ups as the male Marines or whatever that is.
No, it's not.
Don't they have the same athletic standards in the Marines?
joe rogan
But you might get a group of weak guys, one really strong girl, but if you have all the athletes, if you have just the strongest guys and the strongest girls, the strongest guys.
christina pazsitzky
The strongest guys will always be physically stronger.
joe rogan
There are fucking freaks out there.
I've seen some of these guys in the UFC that fight three, four, five rounds and don't even get fucking tired.
You know what kind of incredible shape some of those fucking guys are in?
unidentified
Amazing.
joe rogan
That's like some high-level shit.
And at that level, those men, the really high-level men, there's nothing like that.
Women can't really keep up with that.
And that's one of the big accusations against this one woman who is one of the top women in the world.
She was stripped of her tie.
Her name is Cyborg.
And she's built like a strong dude.
Like, Brian, can you pull up a picture?
Pull up a picture of Cyborg, muscular.
Dude, wait till you see how scary this chick is.
christina pazsitzky
I love it.
joe rogan
And she fought this other chick, Gina Carano.
And Gina Carano was a beautiful son of a...
I guess her dad's like a famous football player.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, beautiful, smart, tough chick.
And this Brazilian bitch just ragdolled her.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
It was horrific.
It was a vicious, vicious beating.
But everybody accuses her of doing steroids.
christina pazsitzky
Doesn't everybody, though?
joe rogan
So then she got caught.
tom segura
She did get caught.
joe rogan
And she got caught.
She tested hot.
And when she tested hot, everybody was like, duh.
Like, I don't know.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
That's one picture of her.
There's some other pictures of her, Brian, like while she's celebrating in the cage.
Because that's her at a weigh-in.
And there's a difference between you at a weigh-in and you when you're actually fighting.
Because when you're actually fighting, that's when your muscles pump up with blood.
Like that one on the far right, you see her, Brian?
Right here?
Yeah, right there.
christina pazsitzky
Oh my gosh.
joe rogan
Right there.
unidentified
She looks like Kate from Lost mixed with the Swedish.
joe rogan
Are you kidding me?
unidentified
Grandma.
joe rogan
Anyway.
Anyway.
tom segura
She's felt like LaRon Landry.
joe rogan
She's a very, very muscular woman.
tom segura
Jesus.
joe rogan
She's a tank.
And she's scary talented as a striker.
She's really...
For a woman, she is fucking vicious.
unidentified
Yeah, I believe it.
christina pazsitzky
It's so...
Okay, and as feminist as I totally am, there's some part of me that I look at her and you're like, why?
Why, sweetie?
joe rogan
Well, because she wants to go to war.
christina pazsitzky
And I like that and I respect that because I, too, am an angry fucking...
But at the same time, you're like, oh, I just want to protect her.
I don't want her to get her face hit.
joe rogan
She came up with the craziest camp in Brazil.
There she is.
She came up with the Shoot the Bucks.
Shoot the Bucks.
And Shoot the Bucks camp is all these badass Brazilian Muay Thai guys.
They're fucking animals.
And she was married to the other dude, Cyborg...
Evangelista.
And he's a fucking beast, too.
He's an old-school MMA legend.
So the two of them were just like the scariest couple ever.
tom segura
Are they breeding super babies?
unidentified
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
I don't think they're together anymore, unfortunately.
But yeah, she is a terrifying woman.
tom segura
Did you, by the way, did you get...
I told you I got to see a little bit of the fights this weekend when I was in the hotel.
I was in Calgary.
And I saw you on, and then when Brown beat Swick, it was, right?
Yeah.
Which was...
Yeah, he was...
There was some great...
That was mostly a ground game fight, if I remember, right?
joe rogan
No, it was...
I don't think they went to the...
Well, they went to the ground.
He got him in a darse, and then he almost got him...
I think he almost got him in a triangle and a darse.
tom segura
Yeah, I thought Brown almost had him.
joe rogan
Yeah, in the first round, right?
The first round, and then the second round he stopped him.
Is that what happened, or did they stop him at the end of the first round?
Was that the first round?
tom segura
I think it was.
No, I don't remember.
joe rogan
Whatever.
I don't remember when exactly it happened, but my God.
tom segura
And then he knocked him.
joe rogan
What a sensational knockout.
tom segura
Yeah, yeah.
Great knockout.
But afterwards, did you know or did you see or did he tell you when Brown was waiting for you?
Like what aired on Fox was that he was standing there and he was looking around.
He was like, hey, Joe.
unidentified
Joe.
tom segura
He's like, what's up man?
And then I cut to commercial.
joe rogan
Well, he even said that to me.
He looked over at me.
It was totally not my call.
I didn't assume.
If you see me in the cage or not, it's like it's not my call.
They tell me we want an interview.
Or they tell me there's no time for an interview.
And a lot of times they say there's no time.
And when you do a card like the Fox card, I think they were already worried about time.
And it turned out to be a good worry because the fight, I believe, started after it was supposed to end.
So for people that set their DVRs, they didn't even get the fight.
A lot of people didn't get the fight, apparently.
tom segura
Oh no.
joe rogan
Yeah, oh no.
So that's why.
They were behind the time.
I don't understand how they produce a show like that.
I don't really even go in the truck and peek.
I don't know what the fuck they're doing.
But I know that when you have live fights, it's really difficult to judge how much actual time you have.
It could be like three first round knockouts, or it could be three really long decisions where Or it could be three decisions where a guy gets kicked in the balls and you have to stop the time for five minutes.
Sometimes shit can drag on past where you think it's going to be.
So they err on the side of caution and they cut out interviews when they can.
tom segura
You've got to have much tighter time restrictions on a network like Fox than a normal, obviously a pay-per-view or even a cable thing.
That's like hard out and ends for other shows that you can't go late into, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, I guess it is.
unidentified
You should just get walkie-talkies.
tom segura
Between?
unidentified
Yeah, that would probably solve everything.
joe rogan
Walkie-talkies?
unidentified
Who would have a walkie-talkie?
Hey, the next fight's on.
Come on out, you know?
tom segura
Who's talking about you?
No, no, you don't.
joe rogan
I don't think you know what you're talking about, silly bitch.
christina pazsitzky
They should hire you as a consultant.
joe rogan
You talk about, like, misunderstanding.
You should produce these shows.
christina pazsitzky
That's a good idea.
joe rogan
What we're saying is if communication's a problem.
Yeah.
tom segura
Why don't you go into your next production meeting and be like...
joe rogan
I'm just going to bring him and he's going to talk for me from now on.
christina pazsitzky
Can we talk about the guys getting kicked in the balls?
Don't they have something to protect their...
joe rogan
Yeah, they do.
They do, but a lot of guys, they wear the wrong cups.
If you just wear a regular jockstrap, those things move around.
They're designed for sports.
They're really not designed for dudes kicking you in the dick.
The things that you need when someone's kicking you in the dick, you need a more comprehensive approach.
unidentified
A swift dick kick.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can't be settling for that softball bullshit cup.
Because those kicks are hard as fuck.
Inside leg kicks to the dick are one of the most painful things ever.
They're so horrible.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, the Muay Thai kick?
Is that what you're talking about?
joe rogan
I've been kicked in the balls so much.
tom segura
For real.
joe rogan
I've probably been kicked in the balls at least a hundred times in my life.
Really?
Really hard.
tom segura
It's amazing that you can get through those.
joe rogan
Wear a cup, yeah.
tom segura
Oh, but always with a cup on.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, I don't think I've ever been kicked without a cup.
tom segura
Thank God.
christina pazsitzky
Oh my gosh.
Well, there's videos about that.
joe rogan
Yeah, the cup protects you a little bit.
The cup protects you a little bit.
It keeps them from rupturing, I think is what it does.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, rupture!
They can rupture!
joe rogan
Oh yeah, guys have lost testicles because they were sparring and they got kicked and they didn't have a cup on.
brian redban
What about one of those people who get the high heels and the ball fetish videos?
unidentified
How does that shit just not burst open?
tom segura
I've got to send you.
You've played the one before.
I got that.
There's a video.
unidentified
I don't get that.
joe rogan
That shit's frightening.
unidentified
There's some that are clearly faked.
tom segura
You can be like, oh, they've got a cup on or whatever.
But then I have one, I'll send it to you, where she's kicking him really hard.
And he's got underwear on.
Yeah, it's in Spanish.
And then she's just like, suffer, suffer, I want you to suffer.
And you're like, alright, but maybe he has a cup on.
Then she takes the underwear off, and she fucking, she's like punting a football, kicking him.
unidentified
Like, BAM! With heels on.
tom segura
With heels on.
unidentified
With heels, yeah.
tom segura
His knees are shaking, and he starts to bleed.
He starts bleeding.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
tom segura
And he's just taking it like...
joe rogan
He likes it, right?
unidentified
He loves it.
christina pazsitzky
And then she squeezes them when they're bleeding.
unidentified
So hard.
christina pazsitzky
And goes, sangria!
What does she say in Spanish?
unidentified
Bleed, you bleed!
tom segura
Yes.
christina pazsitzky
Oh my god.
tom segura
She just smacking them.
joe rogan
So unnecessary.
tom segura
Oh, I know.
joe rogan
Tell her to stop.
unidentified
The one I saw is she was taking the heel and she was grinding it like a cigarette butt after a rainy day.
You know, like you're just grinding it into this concrete.
That's what she was doing, these balls with high heels on.
What is it?
joe rogan
How could someone want that?
I don't know.
What is the switch that goes wrong in your brain where you want someone to hurt you?
unidentified
I hate these dirty balls.
I hate them.
That's why it's Friday.
joe rogan
You make me do bad things!
tom segura
I don't think they can even want it.
I don't think they even want it.
joe rogan
You don't think they want it, but they do it.
tom segura
I think something that leads them to discover, not that they want it, but they're like, oh, my reaction to that is not what most people go through, which is like, God, that's the worst thing ever.
All of a sudden they get that and something happens inside where it's like they get a rush, some type of adrenaline, and then they're like, oh wow, there's a pleasure to that too.
christina pazsitzky
It's a power thing.
Isn't it an S&M thing?
It's being submissive.
tom segura
Are you watching one right now?
joe rogan
I'm scared.
You guys got me scared.
unidentified
It's relinquishing your power.
joe rogan
I don't think you're allowed to show this.
You can't show balls, dude.
unidentified
No, it's blurred out.
Oh, okay.
joe rogan
Is it really?
For real.
brian redban
Like, he has it spread out like it looks like a frog on a table.
joe rogan
Brad over at Ustream is our friend.
unidentified
I'm just kidding.
joe rogan
We can't get him in trouble.
unidentified
This is a High Heel commercial.
joe rogan
Oh.
christina pazsitzky
You ever listen to Dan Savage?
He has the Savage Love podcast.
He's a sex columnist and he says that those fetishes come from your childhood.
Like let's say if you got a fetish for raincoats, when you were a little kid, you associated some pleasure with your raincoat, right?
Like you'd rub against it and maybe that gave you a boner.
And then later in life, that's what you associate your sexual needs with.
tom segura
That's what you have like a latex kind of thing.
christina pazsitzky
Right.
So maybe this kid got kicked in the balls when he was a little boy by like a little girl that he liked or something.
tom segura
And we got a boner.
joe rogan
How many dudes have gotten kicked in the balls by girls they liked to the point where it became a thing?
There you go.
How is it possible?
How is it possible that so many dudes became turned on by that idea?
tom segura
That's every fetish guy, model guy's story.
When I was four, I got kicked in the balls by Molly.
That bitch turned me.
joe rogan
Turned me like a werewolf.
And I became a ball kick fetishist.
tom segura
Holy shit, that's gotta hurt.
joe rogan
I don't understand it.
It's so painful.
I can't imagine that anybody would want it.
christina pazsitzky
Well, I always feel so tentative handling Tommy's nuts.
joe rogan
That's so nice.
christina pazsitzky
Because they're so gentle and sweet, and the thought of hurting them.
tom segura
And I asked for a little more.
I could give him a little tug, give him a little something.
joe rogan
Did you know that the size of a man's testicles, the size of a human's testicles, is proportionate to the promiscuity of the women in his surrounding area?
christina pazsitzky
Wow.
tom segura
What?
joe rogan
With all primates.
unidentified
I like that.
joe rogan
The size of the testicles rises and falls depending on how big a hooker the girls in your neighborhood are.
tom segura
My dad must have grew up around some real sluts then, dude.
Isn't that great?
joe rogan
Giant balls.
tom segura
My dad's balls are huge.
unidentified
You were just talking about this.
tom segura
I was talking about last night.
I was like, I saw him.
I went into his room and he was like, I think he was putting on underwear.
So from behind, I go, Jesus Christ, man.
And he was like, what?
I go, you got like donkey nuts.
He's like, all right, Tommy.
Like, knock it off.
unidentified
It was the biggest balls I've ever seen.
tom segura
So he must have been around some real whores.
That's interesting.
joe rogan
It's probably his, not necessarily him, but you know, the generations before him that made him, you know, it's like it becomes a genetic thing and it all comes from being around more promiscuous women.
Yeah, that's why chimps have the biggest balls.
Chimps have enormous balls.
Their dicks aren't even as big as ours.
tom segura
But their balls are way bigger.
joe rogan
Their balls are so big.
unidentified
Chimps are down to fuck all day.
tom segura
What's the other monkey?
Bonobos.
joe rogan
They're an actual cousin to the chimp.
It's a separate type of chimp.
They don't just masturbate.
They do everything except mother and son.
Mother and son is the only thing they don't do.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah, and we were talking about that on the podcast.
Someone had speculated that that might be because they had figured out that there was, like, bad things happen to the baby when the mother has sex with the son.
tom segura
Oh, they, like, figured it out, basically.
joe rogan
Maybe, but the problem with that is they're fucking all day.
They're fucking everybody.
christina pazsitzky
Right, and isn't it to...
joe rogan
They would have to, like, really be sure.
christina pazsitzky
Isn't it to kind of, they use sex as a social tool to smooth over differences?
Yeah.
joe rogan
Homosexual sex.
That's amazing.
So great.
They just fuck each other.
They go crazy.
And they're very rarely violent with each other.
christina pazsitzky
It's really fascinating.
Because of that, you think?
joe rogan
Yeah, for sure, definitely.
But it's amazing how that evolved.
How does that evolve?
tom segura
It's incredible.
joe rogan
It's weird.
How do you get to a point where you've got this weird society of loving chimps that just fuck all the time?
And then we look at them like they're sick.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
They're the only primates that we know of that don't kill each other or don't kill each other a lot.
I mean, maybe, you know, there's probably some aberrations even in the bonobo world where some shit goes down.
tom segura
Right.
joe rogan
Someone's got to regulate.
tom segura
Yeah.
Some bonobos' dicks don't work.
christina pazsitzky
Now, I heard somewhere that before we had traditional marriage, that it actually made sense for the woman to bang as many dudes in the village so that the paternity of her children was unknown, and she would actually have more men to protect the offspring.
Like, that to me would make sense if I had all of you guys, right?
Tommy, Red Band, Joe, and that guy all doing me, and then...
I make a baby.
Whose baby is it?
unidentified
We all have to take care of it.
joe rogan
They become community babies.
tom segura
If you guys want to set that up.
joe rogan
Terrence McKenna.
unidentified
I said sinks to the bottom.
joe rogan
Terence McKenna always thought that in our distant history that it's likely that we had these polygamous groups of people that did psychedelic drugs together.
His idea of the long-forgotten paradise was back when he believed civilization was first being created.
He believed that those civilizations that came up, they were all just eating mushrooms, tripping their balls off, and fucking each other.
unidentified
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
And then Club Med came.
joe rogan
That took a long time.
I think your timeline might be a little bit off.
tom segura
Sounds like a fun time.
McKenna's world.
joe rogan
But this idea was that at one time there was enough people doing ego suppressing things like eating mushrooms.
It's all like really speculative.
The idea of trying to figure out how many different cultures were doing psychedelic drugs when they came up with their religion, when they came up with a lot of their ideas about life and studying the cosmos.
A lot of those cultures that really got heavily into that stuff were also really heavily into psychedelic drugs.
Like the Mayans, making their crazy fucking calendars.
The Mayans did a lot of mushrooms, man.
christina pazsitzky
I didn't know that.
joe rogan
They ate mushrooms and raw chocolate together.
There's some plant that had an LSD-like effect.
I don't remember what it was, but I went on a tour of Chichen Itza with this guy who was a professor.
And it was really cool.
You could hire him as a guide.
And he was so knowledgeable, man.
It was just really interesting.
Him talking about all the different traditions and why this was created and that was created.
But he took me to this room.
He's like, this is where they did their rituals, taking some sort of a psychedelic plant.
That had an LSD-like effect.
This was just like a culture of super-duper trippers.
tom segura
Yeah.
Well, when you see what they built, you're like, you could not have been of sound mind when you came up with this shit.
christina pazsitzky
It's not logical.
tom segura
Not at all.
joe rogan
Well, they got to some weird places, weirder than anybody, where they fucking killed people so often that they had spots.
Like, we're going to kill them right here.
This is the altar.
They had altars where they would sacrifice people.
tom segura
Sure.
I saw one, I didn't, not in Mexico, I went to, in Peru, I went to Machu Picchu a couple times, and they had the, like, sacrificial room.
They showed you they were, like, on this table, just, people would voluntarily be sacrificed.
christina pazsitzky
But what's the utility socially?
tom segura
That you have to be high as fuck for, I think.
christina pazsitzky
Is that the point to satisfy the gods?
unidentified
You take a virgin or you take the strongest guy or whatever?
joe rogan
There was a period when the Aztecs, when they killed 80,000 people.
Some insane number of people over, like, just a period of four days.
When there was one of the temples that was being built there, they, apparently, this is like, it's been, it's disputed whether or not they killed 80,000 or whether they killed, you know, whether it was only really 10,000 people exaggerated.
Like, there's some dispute as to how many people were actually killed.
But if the number there, they believe...
Is 80,000.
In 1487, the Aztec king, when they completed one of their pyramids, he killed every prisoner that was part of the construction.
tom segura
That sucks.
joe rogan
They built this shit for him and then he kills some insane amount of people over the course of four days.
tom segura
I bet that's a lot of voluntarily dying too.
joe rogan
I don't know.
tom segura
I think so.
joe rogan
This is so crazy that Duncan told me about this first.
And then I read it and I couldn't believe it.
And then I told a bunch of different people.
I go, did you know that this happened?
And I've had people go, fuck it did.
No, it didn't.
Like totally incredulous, walk away from me.
I've had to send them emails.
Like when I'm on that hunting show.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Steve Rinella?
Great guy, man.
Really intelligent guy.
Very well-read guy.
And I told him about it.
He didn't believe it either.
He's like, there's no way.
I'm like, I'm telling you.
I'll send you the thing.
When you send someone the actual different stories and depictions of this This time in the 1400s, and you see that number, 80,000.
Can you even wrap your head around that?
No.
tom segura
That's huge.
joe rogan
They're not doing this with guns, folks, okay?
Wrap your head around 80,000 people getting cut to death.
tom segura
Fucking the Rose Bowl.
joe rogan
In four days.
tom segura
That's what it is.
joe rogan
Rose Bowl, you're right.
Oh my god.
Oh my crazy.
unidentified
God, it is.
tom segura
Everybody there has their throat slit and their heart pulled out of their chest.
joe rogan
Dude.
tom segura
It's nuts.
joe rogan
What a crazy motherfucker.
tom segura
Yeah, that's insane.
joe rogan
Yeah, they took shit to the next level.
Again, massive mushroom eaters.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Trippers.
Big time trippers.
It's weird when you combine a lot of the interesting things about those cultures, a lot of the interesting discoveries.
There's very strange use of an hieroglyphic-like language that took us a long time to figure out.
They still work on some of the different, more complex things.
Character things in order and debate what exactly it means.
There's a great documentary, I think it's from Nat Geo, called Decoding the Maya.
I believe that's what it's called.
And it's really interesting to see these guys, these scholars, trying to figure out what the fuck this was.
This crazy language.
tom segura
Well, the other thing that blows your mind every time, if you see something Mayan, Aztec, or the Incans, is when you see what they built, you can take today's greatest architect and be like, how would you do this here?
And they don't even know where to start.
These things were built, perfectly constructed, and stones that weigh 20 tons are laid on top of another stone and fits into it.
They have theories.
They're like, well, we think...
That they would pour water down here, and then you're like, how many people would it take to move this?
And they're like, oh, like 8,000.
And then we'd probably put it over here.
You're like, none of it makes sense.
joe rogan
Anybody that, like, there's people that will try to debunk anything.
And any time you bring up anything that seems even remotely paranormal, You know, like ghosts or fucking aliens.
Anything remotely paranormal.
They automatically try to go, fuck, there's no evidence for that.
That's all well and good until you get to giant stones.
And there's something about moving giant stones.
I'm like, listen, man, you've got to explain that.
You've got to explain that.
You can't just say...
Oh, well, they did that.
And, you know, they figured it out and they cut it out of this quarry right here.
Look, we have one.
One of my favorite pieces of evidence is where they show this one, one of these giant fucking big stone pillars they were carving out of this...
This one giant piece of granite.
And they stopped in the middle of the carving.
But because of the fact that it was partially completed, you could see the method of shaping it.
It was really kind of interesting.
They learned a lot from that.
So they believed that they did it with stones.
And they believed that they did it slowly.
It was a real painstaking process of slowly chipping away to get these...
How the fuck did they move it?
You gotta tell me how they moved it.
tom segura
There's no cranes, there's no bulldozers.
joe rogan
We have to assume that they had some incredible knowledge of leverage and moving things and they figured out how to get things under it and leverage it and move it somehow.
But to pretend that that's not a mystery is really kind of disingenuous.
tom segura
Yeah, it is.
christina pazsitzky
But don't you, I find that, I mean, also too, human thinking changes over time.
And since the Enlightenment period and like the scientific revolution, we've discredited anything that's remotely ooky and mysterious.
joe rogan
Well, that's because there's so much ooky, mysterious stuff that's Bullshit!
It's such a problem.
There's so much bullshit out there.
Whether it's ghost bullshit or UFO bullshit, there's so many nutty motherfuckers with fake Bigfoot stories that are just muddying up the waters.
There's so much bullshit.
So of course a smart person is going to gravitate towards the scientific and more likely explanation for almost everything.
tom segura
That's very true.
christina pazsitzky
But it's not explaining everything.
tom segura
But it's not.
That's the thing.
It's leaving things that are valid.
Not the bullshit story.
It's leaving the real thing also unexplored or unexplained.
And people just go like, whatever.
joe rogan
Well, what science can't figure out...
Is emotions and artwork.
And why do we like beautiful things?
And why do I love hearing certain songs?
Why has it changed the way my body feels?
What does it feel like to kiss somebody that you love?
Is that really just a bunch of chemicals that's floating around in your brain?
What is going on there?
Can science measure that?
The emotional human aspect of life is the one thing that science...
Can't really truly define yet, but who knows, man?
We might be able to break it down one day to ones and zeros, and you just program the right ones and zeros in your head, and you're happy all the time.
tom segura
Let's do it.
Let's keep dreaming, man.
Let's dream all day.
joe rogan
You ever talk to someone who has a problem with normal consciousness, and they need something like an SSRI or something like that, and then when they take it, they talk about how they finally can see life?
tom segura
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
We're going to be able to engineer that in people.
I guess we're doing it right now by people taking pills.
unidentified
The chemicals you're saying?
christina pazsitzky
Just the meat and the cheese of it?
joe rogan
Well, the levels of certain things that make your consciousness operate.
Certain things like serotonin and dopamine.
The levels of these things.
How these things are produced.
They're going to be able to manipulate that shit.
And they're going to be able to manipulate your mood.
You're going to be way happier.
tom segura
You're also going to be able to program or they'll be able to program the genes that are more desirable and leave out things that are not.
joe rogan
Well, that's one of the things I always felt.
If you look at the standard image of the alien, you know, the gray-eyed, the big gray-skinned, big-eyed alien, they're like real flimsy bodies, big giant heads.
If you look at them and you look at us and you look at a gorilla, they look more like us than a gorilla.
They do.
That might be what we're gonna do.
We're gonna get rid of all the whole sex organ thing.
We're gonna design these bulletproof bodies that can see through walls and we're just gonna take that on.
They're gonna be able to figure out a way to manipulate your genetics.
And there's never gonna be a dumb kid born again.
tom segura
Sure.
We'll develop a new language, too.
joe rogan
Dumb people and your fucking kid's gonna be five going, hey, stupid, why are you doing like this?
Right, right.
Fucking super genetic freak kid at five who already learns three languages.
tom segura
We'll stop speaking English at that point.
unidentified
Just thoughts?
tom segura
We'll have a new language, and that'll mean everything.
christina pazsitzky
Well, no, we'll just communicate with our consciousness.
unidentified
Oh, right.
christina pazsitzky
We don't even have to speak anymore.
joe rogan
I wonder how much different the world would be if we all had the same language.
tom segura
Makes a huge difference.
joe rogan
I wonder how much confusion when it comes to things that are going on in the Middle East.
I don't speak Israeli.
I don't speak Hebrew.
I don't know what the Palestinians are saying.
I don't know what the Saudis are saying.
I don't know what the Iranians are saying.
I can't hear that.
I don't understand it.
So we're reliant.
Have you ever seen some of the translations that were attributed to Ahmadinejad?
Is that his name?
The Iranian...
tom segura
Ahmadinejad.
joe rogan
Ahmadinejad.
christina pazsitzky
Yes.
unidentified
Ahmadinejad.
joe rogan
There's like, people take things out of context that he said and make it much more inflammatory.
I mean, he says plenty of inflammatory shit, but they manipulate things.
And we don't know about that.
We don't know about that unless you really go and look.
And if he talked English, we would know.
tom segura
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Motherfucker, learn some English.
christina pazsitzky
It's very true.
joe rogan
Right now, Iranians fucking listen to this podcast and I'm like, bitch!
I thought you were cool!
tom segura
Here's the thing, too.
joe rogan
Just kidding, folks.
Universal language.
We should learn Farsi.
christina pazsitzky
There you go.
Universal language.
tom segura
It always blows my mind, too, because it brings to the point when people say the word fluent, when they say they're fluent in another language, and you realize what it really means to be fluent.
Because people can speak A lot of a language and still miss tons of things, misunderstand things, and definitely not...
I speak pretty damn good Spanish from growing up in a Spanish-speaking household.
And I've seen...
I've watched court shows where they have an interpreter for somebody And I've been like, that's not what he said, and the person said it, you know, like that.
I've watched translations, like UN things, where you'll be like, oh, that person speaks, let's say, fluent Spanish, and you think, you're like, no, they speak great English, too, but it's actually like they speak 90% good English and can miss a word, an intention.
It can be shuffled around, and when you misunderstand something by a word, or I'll have it, you know, in Spanish, we're all You think I'm pretty much on point, but you miss just a little thing, a little detail that you don't miss when it's either your native language or you're so immersed in a language that you truly are fluent in it.
joe rogan
Right.
You're thinking while you're talking.
tom segura
Oh, yeah.
If you live in a country where...
If you live in your second language country, you can, over time, I think, really speak Tremendous, whatever that language might be.
You know what I mean?
When you're surrounded by that language 24-7.
But short of that, you really do miss things.
You do.
That's also what leads to...
Misunderstandings lead to argument.
It leads to confrontation and violence sometimes because you misunderstood something.
It wasn't even a disagreement.
You just didn't say it right or understand it right.
joe rogan
Yeah, apparently there's a new app and you can talk to it and if you're talking in whatever language It translates it back to you in real time in English.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I haven't...
Do you know what I'm talking about, Brian?
unidentified
No, I have no idea.
joe rogan
Yeah, have you heard of this?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Goddammit, I have to find about this.
I have to Google search it now.
Because somebody told me about it, and I haven't looked into it.
But this is apparently something either they're working on, and it's going to be released soon, or it's out now.
App that...
christina pazsitzky
Because there is, like with my parents who are Hungarian speakers, and I can understand stuff.
But even when I speak to my father in English, right?
Like he has a whole different understanding of English.
tom segura
Of course.
christina pazsitzky
As I do in a different context.
Like when he speaks Hungarian, I still don't really understand.
tom segura
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
Because of the different time and space that we grew up learning a language in.
unidentified
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
Like even generational between your father who is American.
Like he didn't grow up with the same TV shows that you did or know the same references.
unidentified
Right.
tom segura
Yeah, you can misunderstand each other even then.
joe rogan
Yeah, this is a real thing.
It's an app that translates languages during real-time phone calls.
christina pazsitzky
Wow.
joe rogan
So you can call someone and you can be talking to someone in real fucking time, whatever they say in French or Spanish.
tom segura
And it translates it to you.
joe rogan
It translates it to you in real time.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Wow.
tom segura
That's incredible.
joe rogan
That's nuts.
unidentified
Dude, we should try it.
christina pazsitzky
I know.
joe rogan
Yeah, we should.
But we don't know any other languages, so we wouldn't know what the fuck.
unidentified
I could call it Japanese, girl.
joe rogan
No, you don't know shit.
unidentified
Dude, have you ever been to...
This is a Kings of Taiwan website.
Did you see that tweet I did today?
joe rogan
No, no.
unidentified
What is it?
It's Kings of Taiwan.
brian redban
I was on Amazon last night looking up books and it said like where it says recommends to you and one was recommends to you Taiwan hookers.
unidentified
And it was a Kindle book.
And so I was like, what the fuck is this book?
brian redban
And I started reading through it and then I was like, oh wait, this is from a website.
unidentified
Somebody just took it and made it a book on Amazon.
brian redban
So then I started going on this website and next thing I know I'm looking deep in this like report of how to get hookers in Taiwan and how there's like, it's accepted there and how like, It is so interesting.
But then I found myself on orbits like, how expensive is it going to go to Taiwan?
christina pazsitzky
What am I doing?
joe rogan
You were thinking about going to Taiwan?
unidentified
I was lost, dude.
Sometimes you just get lost on that barrel on the internet.
You just keep on going.
tom segura
Fall down that hole, man.
joe rogan
You were thinking about actually going to Taiwan?
unidentified
Well, it looked really nice.
brian redban
I was looking at videos on YouTube and it looked like really pretty there and stuff.
unidentified
Dude, they'll put you in prison.
People were saying it's like, it's better than Vegas.
You know, like it's like way better than Vegas.
christina pazsitzky
But don't they put you in prison just for smoking pot there?
brian redban
No, no, you just don't do drugs or anything.
unidentified
You follow the rules.
brian redban
They have articles on that website about all the laws there and what to do, where to stay, and what soapies to get.
tom segura
The soapies?
unidentified
That would be dangerous.
christina pazsitzky
What's a soapy?
tom segura
Soapy.
unidentified
So you guys have never been to Taiwan?
tom segura
Not yet.
We're planning on going for the Vegas experience pretty soon.
joe rogan
For the better than Vegas experience.
It's just really hard to get people to leave the country.
Especially now.
But if you're looking for a place with really good hookers...
christina pazsitzky
Do it, man.
joe rogan
We're not the world champs.
tom segura
And report back to us.
By no means.
brian redban
That meant more just for the nightlife.
unidentified
It just seems crazy there.
joe rogan
Who sang that song?
I love the nightlife.
I love the boat.
christina pazsitzky
It's a good game.
Oh, let's go ride.
tom segura
We just had Yoshi on our show.
joe rogan
Oh, powerful Yoshi.
Talk about a man who's seen too much.
tom segura
He believes in strictly the hooker experience.
joe rogan
Oh, poor Yoshi.
Yoshi is our friend.
tom segura
He said Frankfurt is great and so is Amsterdam.
Frankfurt?
unidentified
Is that in Germany?
tom segura
That is.
joe rogan
Yoshi is a stand-up comedian friend of ours who always worked for porn companies.
So we would be at the comedy store and Yoshi would roll up with like a box of DVDs.
I always give you, oh, Asian Sensation, check it.
unidentified
Take your DVD. I think we had a box of...
joe rogan
Thanks for giving me stuff to beat off to.
tom segura
Actually, we did.
christina pazsitzky
For a long time.
tom segura
Part of my collection, it was secondhand Yoshi.
unidentified
It was DVDs that Yoshi had given people that they gave to me.
Fingerprints and shit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
christina pazsitzky
It was all fetish.
joe rogan
Secondhand?
Yeah, that fetish stuff is strange as fuck.
Dudes will jerk off on girls' feet and shit.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, there's a lot of that.
joe rogan
Oh, that weirdness.
christina pazsitzky
My favorite was Speck's Appeal.
tom segura
Oh, yeah.
christina pazsitzky
Which was just girls in glasses.
tom segura
In glasses.
And guys are always like, here it goes!
And all over the glasses.
And she's like, oh, you got all my glasses.
unidentified
I can't.
tom segura
I'll try to go back to reading now.
unidentified
And then they would always try to read their next sentence.
brian redban
My friend, she does bondage stuff, and she just got a letter the other day that was like, hey, you know, I want to be your gimp.
I just can't, you know, I have to wear a mask, but you can, like, peel off pieces of my arm and eat it if you want to.
unidentified
You can do anything you want to.
joe rogan
This is a person that you know?
She said that to you?
brian redban
No, no, somebody wrote a letter, an email to this person I know.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
unidentified
Oh, I see.
And he attached to a photo, and it's so horrible to look at.
brian redban
You look at it and go, wow, that's a serial killer right there.
unidentified
That guy right there is a serial killer.
joe rogan
You know what they say about people that have this thing where they're always hurting themselves?
They cut themselves.
Some people have crazy genital piercings and shit like that.
They think that some people that do really freaky shit Might have a problem where they're not experiencing pain the right way.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, that's interesting.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
And it leads them to more and more extreme things to really jolt themselves and feel it.
tom segura
Yeah.
Well, some people clearly don't have the same pain threshold that I would say the majority of people have.
You see some people do things and you're like, How the fuck did that not hurt you more than anything?
joe rogan
Well, you know that guy that got fucked to death by the horse?
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
That guy had piercings all over his balls.
His balls were like a three-ring binder.
I'm not joking.
He just click-clack, click-clack, click-clack, click-clack, click-clack.
So, like, this guy was just...
He was a straight up lokester.
It wasn't just getting horses to fuck him in the ass.
He was like running metal through his ball bag.
Horses.
Horses are crazy.
That horse fucked him to death.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, I remember that.
tom segura
The craziest thing too about the horse fucking and being into that is the horse dick is second to the horse thrust.
Because an animal thrust, a thrust from a horse is impossible.
You can't, you could line up Eight people and be like, don't let them push.
And that horse is fucking through you.
Yeah, man.
joe rogan
All they eat is grass, too.
unidentified
What the fuck?
joe rogan
Can you imagine if grass is a solution the whole time?
tom segura
To everything?
joe rogan
Healthy as fuck and just run for a hundred miles.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
joe rogan
Horses just eat grass and they're yoked.
unidentified
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
It's a good diet, right?
joe rogan
They're so swole.
I mean, is there any animal more swole than a horse?
tom segura
I was about to say they're like thoroughbreds and then I remembered they are thoroughbreds.
unidentified
A thoroughbred horse.
joe rogan
There's no animal in the animal kingdom that is more yoked.
tom segura
And they're fucking beautiful.
You see them and you're like, that looks like a majestic dog.
joe rogan
The fact that you can actually ride it and get it to do shit.
tom segura
And with you on its back, it's like How's 35 miles an hour sound?
You know, you're like, alright.
christina pazsitzky
I don't fuck with horses.
joe rogan
The real problem, though, is the people that want to do those jumping things and all that other kind of crazy shit with the horses, like those sports, equestrian sports.
People die during those times.
That's how Christopher Eve got fucked up.
tom segura
And the horses get fucked up a lot, too.
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't get that.
christina pazsitzky
No, dude.
joe rogan
I just feel like that's a scary proposition right there.
You're Planning on this animal, listening to you.
What if it pulls a muscle?
Are you ready for that?
christina pazsitzky
I'm out.
joe rogan
If you understand bodies, animals, they strain things.
They break legs.
They twist ankles.
Shit goes wrong.
If shit's going wrong while that animal does that, you're attached to that fucking thing, and it's going to spike you into the ground with all of its weight on top of you.
christina pazsitzky
Dude, fuck riding a horse.
joe rogan
Fuck riding a horse.
unidentified
I'm not about it at all.
I got bugged once.
I would never go back.
joe rogan
Give me virtual knuckles, girl.
I'm with you.
Fuck that.
unidentified
Fuck.
joe rogan
I think they're beautiful, and I wouldn't mind riding a horse, like a trail horse and stuff like that, as long as it's a cool horse that some guy had had and taken care of.
You know that this is an easy-going horse that's always been loved and treated with respect.
christina pazsitzky
Or like old Millie, the older one, who's been hanging out for 70 years.
joe rogan
I'm totally down with that, but the real problem is these fucking equestrian events.
We've got them jumping over shit.
christina pazsitzky
Well, not only that.
To me, it's not respect for this beautiful, magnificent beast.
I mean, fuck you.
joe rogan
Sort of, but it is kind of cool to watch him jump.
christina pazsitzky
It is, but I mean, have respect.
Like you said, this animal also has a mind of its own.
How do you know what it's going to do?
tom segura
How do you know it wants to do that bullshit?
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
joe rogan
It doesn't want to do that bullshit.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, you don't want someone on your back.
joe rogan
Especially because the animal can clearly see that there's nothing to the left of these fucking boards and nothing to the right.
It's like, why am I jumping when I can just go to the left?
unidentified
Right, right.
tom segura
And I've seen footage of that before where the horse goes like...
joe rogan
Stop, stupid.
Why am I jumping this, man?
What am I, your fucking trained monkey?
We got options, man.
tom segura
We got options.
I'm going around.
joe rogan
This is fucking stupid.
Why should I jump?
You're on my back.
unidentified
We should have a jumping contest.
Who do you think jumps the highest?
tom segura
The highest?
christina pazsitzky
Not me.
joe rogan
Brian, are you broken today?
unidentified
Yeah, I'm broken.
You gave me that joint.
Whatever the fuck was in that joint.
joe rogan
I told you.
unidentified
One hit.
I did take one hit.
tom segura
Do you have a good vertical?
joe rogan
I could probably jump decent.
Nothing shocking.
tom segura
That is the one, of all the physical things and attributes that you can desire, like I wish I could do this.
When you're with somebody, especially if they're your size and they have an amazing vertical leap, it's the fucking most fascinating thing to watch them.
To watch it, because it's totally natural.
I've been with people my height that can literally jump 15 inches higher than I can.
What?
Holy shit!
And it's the thing I was like, man.
And the people that I've seen do it wasn't through by train every day.
It was just, that's how high I could jump.
christina pazsitzky
I jump every day.
tom segura
I jump all day.
No, it was just a natural, hereditary, or whatever.
They were just born being able to jump through the fucking roof.
joe rogan
That's what Bo Jackson was like.
tom segura
That's one of the most amazing physical specimens in recorded time.
joe rogan
He's still got records in the NFL combine.
I think he still holds the record for the 40. Does he really?
I think so.
tom segura
That was like watching a human horse.
It really was.
That guy is an unbelievable athlete.
joe rogan
Somebody who wrote a book about him was talking about it.
I wish I could remember the guy's name.
I should Google it.
tom segura
Watch...
Look up Bo Jackson highlights from football when he was at Auburn or when we played for the...
If he didn't get his hip injured, there is absolutely no telling what that guy would have done.
He would fucking...
He was so fast that he was like...
You know, he was like the fastest guy on the team.
But it was on like a 225 or 230 pound body.
So he could truck people too.
Like just lower his shoulder and just...
He would deliver hits...
You know, he would give a concussion out with the football in his hand.
unidentified
Wow.
tom segura
That just unbelievable physical specimen, Bo Jackson.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
tom segura
And he played professional baseball just because he liked baseball, too.
You know, just one of those guys who was like, oh, how about I'll also play another Professional sport.
joe rogan
And be awesome at it.
tom segura
Yeah, and be awesome at it.
And just home runs.
I remember watching him.
You ever see a guy?
Because I saw him do this.
For sure there's footage of this.
Bo Jackson breaking a baseball bat over his leg.
joe rogan
Over his knee.
He would do it like it was nothing.
tom segura
It was like a twig, man.
He was like, boop, like he was breaking a candy bar.
He was like, you have half, I'll take half.
He would just snap that shit.
Fuck, I struck out.
joe rogan
Apparently, he was always able to do freaky shit.
This guy was talking about that when he was young, he used to be able to jump over cars.
He could jump over the hood of a car.
tom segura
Yeah, I saw a guy do that.
joe rogan
Dude, that's crazy.
tom segura
That's one of the things I was talking about.
I saw a guy do that who was smaller than me, shorter than me, you know?
A total fucking just yoked dude.
He played running back.
He actually broke California state records in high school.
And he did that.
He jumped over the hood of a car.
And I was like, that is amazing to watch.
I mean, amazing.
That's crazy.
To watch a guy like that sprint, you're like, oh, dude, I could run forever and never sprint like that.
joe rogan
Jesus.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's a kid that I saw on a video who jumped off a roof, did a backflip off a roof.
And it was like a three-story or two-story building.
It was the most ridiculous shit I've ever seen.
And the kid made it and lived and it was fine.
tom segura
If you want to see, like, that's incredible.
If you want to see, like, a crazy other level, like, type of running athlete, like, you just see, like, oh, this is another gear that they have that other people just don't have.
If you look at, um, there's this guy that plays football for, like, uh, he plays for the Bills, I think now.
His name's C.J. Spiller.
And when he was at Clemson, there's highlights of him, like, where he would stop, like, stop in the middle of the field, and there's, like, five guys surrounding him, and then he just turns it on again.
But he goes to, like, he goes to, like, fifth gear before they get to first, you know?
Right.
That's, like, he just got to his gear so much faster than them.
But those are all, like, dynamite.
unidentified
Yeah.
tom segura
You know?
And you're just like, that doesn't make sense.
Or, like, Devin Hester is this guy who plays for the Bears.
He's a well-known returner.
And if you watch his highlights, the thing about him is that he hits-- they say like-- there are guys who have faster 40 times than him, but he hits his highest speed immediately.
So it's like he gets the ball, and then he's just like-- I'm running as fast as I can the first second I have the ball, whereas everybody else has to-- Ramps up.
Yeah, and you're just like, holy shit, he is.
He hit fifth gear immediately, and you see the other guys...
joe rogan
So his off-the-gate explosion is fantastic.
tom segura
Yeah, it's incredible.
joe rogan
There's no even playing field.
The idea that there's an even playing field when it comes to human beings is crazy.
Just by looking at the different sizes of us, there's a reason why we need weight classes, okay?
And the variables inside of weight classes Those are also pretty extreme with some athletes.
Some people just aren't that coordinated.
They don't move that well.
They don't have that kind of power.
And then there's guys that can just learn things like immediately.
And they can run like a gazelle and they can do shit to you that you can't do to them.
And they were out of the box like that.
There's guys that are out of the box athletes.
tom segura
Did you ever think about how unlikely the total package of LeBron James is?
joe rogan
This is crazy!
tom segura
That is a.001% package.
joe rogan
A crackhead gives birth to him.
That's not right?
Yes, his mom was a crackhead.
unidentified
Really?
Was she a crackhead?
joe rogan
Yes!
Not only is his mom a crackhead, his mom allegedly was fucking one of his teammates.
tom segura
Oh, that's right.
joe rogan
Is that true?
tom segura
Hot sauce in my bag.
Delonte West.
joe rogan
Is that true?
tom segura
Yes!
Delonte West, man.
joe rogan
His mom allegedly had a substance abuse problem.
She gives birth to this gigantic super athlete who moves like a panther, like a giant panther.
If LeBron James was in MMA, do you know how many people that guy would be fucking up?
tom segura
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
If you train that guy?
If that guy wanted to fight, if he had the will to fight.
tom segura
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
tom segura
Well, you know, in high school, he was all-state tight end playing football.
Because people always talk about, can you imagine this son of a bitch playing football?
He stopped playing, I think, after his sophomore season.
It was all-state, like, already, like, this is going to be somebody you're going to have to deal with.
joe rogan
Right.
tom segura
And stop playing.
But you look at that body, 6'8", 270, and he has no body.
joe rogan
Jordan learned how to fight.
christina pazsitzky
You know what I'm stupid?
I thought LeBron did play football this whole time.
What team is he on?
You didn't know?
tom segura
LeBron James.
unidentified
Basketball!
christina pazsitzky
Here's what I know in sports is whatever Tom tells me.
joe rogan
You don't watch anything outside of that?
christina pazsitzky
No, I like tennis.
I used to watch that.
joe rogan
What about ladies golf?
christina pazsitzky
Yes, every day.
tom segura
She isn't gay.
christina pazsitzky
Come on, LeBron.
joe rogan
Is that the case?
I've heard that said before.
tom segura
What's that?
joe rogan
That ladies golf is like a lot of K-chicks.
tom segura
Probably.
I think there's a little bit of a...
joe rogan
Which I support 100%.
tom segura
Yeah, of course.
joe rogan
Always do.
tom segura
Look at the poles.
unidentified
Look at the sticks they use.
tom segura
There's definitely...
christina pazsitzky
What?
unidentified
Jesus Christ.
Who's trying today, boy?
There's definitely some well-known gay golfers.
christina pazsitzky
I don't know who watches ladies golf.
I'm not sure what the audience is.
tom segura
They are amazing golfers.
joe rogan
So essentially just a bunch of lesbos sitting around staring at each other.
tom segura
It's amazing how good they are, though.
Fuck, man.
joe rogan
Well, it's one of the few groups that lesbians are able to really grow.
Lesbians, they have a hard time getting a community.
Gay dudes have massive communities all over the country.
There's parts of the Tenderloin, and if you go to the Santa Monica area, West Hollywood, Santa Monica Boulevard, that is a goddamn gay area.
There are dudes there.
They've all conglomerated, they know where the party's at, and you drive by.
Yeah, but that place on Hollywood Boulevard, on Santa Monica Boulevard, that West Hollywood spot, that is the gayest spot on earth.
christina pazsitzky
I'm sorry, which one?
joe rogan
That area, that whole area while you're driving.
tom segura
Yes, yes it is.
joe rogan
Is that Club Rage still there?
christina pazsitzky
I think, yeah.
joe rogan
I'm sorry, I don't go every week.
christina pazsitzky
That's the flagship club, I believe.
joe rogan
That's the one that's on the big, that was the one that...
christina pazsitzky
Yes, I think.
joe rogan
You know where Doheny is?
I was coming down Doheny and I'm at the red light there and it was a Saturday night and it was fucking beautiful weather and everybody was out and it was a gay party on the streets, man.
And there was these two dudes and they both had their hands, their fingers looped into each other's belt loops and they were interlocked, kind of scissoring and just grinding dicks together.
And I was like, I can only watch this a certain amount of time before some gay slips into me.
I gotta get out of here!
It was like a fucking bomb had been ignited and I had to get outside the blast radius.
unidentified
A dude bomb.
And it's like, there's a gay bomb here!
christina pazsitzky
But they're so happy.
joe rogan
Oh, they were happy as fuck.
christina pazsitzky
Well, we used to live next to a bear bar in Silver Lake, so you'd have to walk past the bear bar to get to Trader Joe's.
unidentified
Oh, whoa, whoa.
joe rogan
That's a specific type of gay bar.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, it's so wonderful.
And so, like, you know, Tuesday nights is like...
tom segura
Rimjob Tuesdays.
christina pazsitzky
Rimjob Tuesdays.
tom segura
They have the big sign-out fund.
It's Rimjob Tuesdays.
christina pazsitzky
And they had a huge rooster in the back.
And, like, these guys just partied.
tom segura
They partied hard.
unidentified
They loved life.
tom segura
And you'd hear, like, you'd drive by.
You could be having, like, the most...
Quiet, lame kind of night.
You're like, there's nothing going on.
And then as you pulled up, you're like, oh, there's some dicks grinding going on right now.
unidentified
And you're like, ah, neighborhood is alive right now.
christina pazsitzky
And the best part, there was a security guard that would stand outside.
But because he was in front of a gay bar, you didn't know if it was just a costume the first few times.
tom segura
You see him, you're like, that guy's going all out tonight.
And he's like, no, I'm the security guard.
unidentified
He had a mustache and his little hat.
joe rogan
A mustache.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's very few that pull off the John Stossel.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
That thick upper mustache.
unidentified
John Stossel.
tom segura
They commit to that, man.
joe rogan
That's a strange one.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
tom segura
That's a strange one.
Yeah, I always wonder that, because people usually mock the mustache, you know, or they rock the ironic mustache.
joe rogan
Movember.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
tom segura
But in the gay community, it's like, Yo.
I'm down.
unidentified
Are you?
joe rogan
I saw a guy the other day who was beautiful.
He had Timbalands on and he had cut-off jean shorts and he had one of those leather scally caps on and he had a jean jacket that was sleeveless.
tom segura
Nice.
joe rogan
He was fucking ridiculous.
And this was like right after I worked in San Francisco with Greg Fitzsimmons.
Greg Fitzsimmons fucking killed me.
He got on stage and he goes, this is the last city where there's real faggots.
You can see a guy with leather pants and a handlebar mustache.
tom segura
Oh my god.
unidentified
Oh, that's hilarious.
joe rogan
He'd get fucking crushed, too, because it was so true.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
These unabashed animals.
tom segura
Yeah, that's fucking funny.
A really, like, aggressively gay guy.
That guy that you described, like, if Cock was a company, that's the chairman and CEO of Cock.
joe rogan
Timbaland.
Like, in charge.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
With the fluffy socks.
You know, the socks are kind of scrunched down.
And the Timberlands are like open.
And then he's got cut-off jean shorts and a jean jacket.
unidentified
He was just so gay.
joe rogan
Sleeveless.
tom segura
San Francisco?
unidentified
No!
joe rogan
This was in Santa Monica Boulevard.
tom segura
Oh, Santa Monica.
joe rogan
This one, the gayest guy on earth.
The only one that comes close to him.
I was in Houston once.
I wanted to congratulate this guy.
The way he was rocking it.
But I didn't want to offend him, so I let it go.
But he had leg warmers on that were rainbow.
tom segura
That's already, yeah.
joe rogan
Rainbow-colored leg warmers on.
And he had these little designer-like, they looked like some odd tennis shoe type thing that he was wearing.
Some very trendy tennis shoe.
And then he had these boys' gym shorts.
Remember those gym shorts you used to wear?
They were blue with the white stripe?
And they were way too small.
They were way too small.
And he's a frail man as it is.
And then he had a pink, skin-tight shirt and some crazy multi-colored bandana.
And as he was working out, he was working out like this.
Ugh.
unidentified
Ugh.
Like grunting through it.
Yeah, that's the best thing.
joe rogan
Leg warmers, man.
This is the gayest man that's ever walked the face of the earth.
This guy, if he got together with the other guy, they would create a black hole of homosexuality.
It would eat its way through the cement.
tom segura
Eat cement and spit cum back at you.
unidentified
Fuck.
Fuck.
joe rogan
It would be a sinkhole of gay.
If you slipped and fell into it, you'd fall prey to the gay.
tom segura
You saw something...
christina pazsitzky
Which one?
I lived in San Francisco for years.
tom segura
She lived in San Francisco.
I went to college there.
You definitely saw the gayest thing that you can see.
christina pazsitzky
Which one?
tom segura
There's so many.
You said during the parade one time you saw a guy...
christina pazsitzky
Two guys fucking on the corner.
tom segura
Yeah, on the street.
christina pazsitzky
Just on the street.
We don't need to find a mattress or a bed or an alleyway.
tom segura
If you see guys butt-fucking on the street, you'll be like, that's the gayest street.
You'll never forget that street.
joe rogan
At that moment, it's one of the gayest streets on Earth.
tom segura
Sure.
christina pazsitzky
But I think it was during the Folsom Street Fair in all...
So that's like the gay Mardi Gras.
joe rogan
That's why I fuck on the street.
I like to limit it to fairs.
christina pazsitzky
Don't bring your kids.
joe rogan
If you're willing to fuck on the street during a fair, you're a real gangster.
You're out there just fucking breaking laws.
You're a part of the problem.
christina pazsitzky
Hey, remember at the bear gym in our old neighborhood?
tom segura
Yeah, yeah.
christina pazsitzky
That some guys, so this thing also in bear culture is these big guys, they also like to build their musk.
tom segura
Yes.
christina pazsitzky
And that's another part of it.
And Tommy, one time, I think you were downwind of a guy.
unidentified
Yeah.
Weren't you?
christina pazsitzky
The fan was behind him or something?
unidentified
Yeah.
tom segura
Fuck, man.
christina pazsitzky
And you could smell his mouth.
tom segura
It was so strong.
It wasn't like Jim's smell strong.
It was like a personal body odor that, you know, you could just tell when someone's BO was kicking.
joe rogan
Was it kicking because he was dirty?
Like he hadn't washed it?
tom segura
Yeah, yeah.
It was definitely a I haven't showered in like...
In a while.
joe rogan
Maybe it's to ward off the smell of shit while you're fucking with your ass.
Do you ever think about that?
I think it was just...
I mean, there's gotta be something that jumps out.
tom segura
He had such pride about his musk.
I could just tell the way he was like, you picking up what I'm putting out there right now?
Just look about it.
christina pazsitzky
It's his genre.
tom segura
I imagine that some people were walking through the gym that day like, Thanks, brother.
Like, thanks for putting us out here because you got me fired up.
joe rogan
You got me ready to do some squats!
This motherfucker smell good!
unidentified
Damn!
joe rogan
Damn!
Yeah, there's different levels of, like, gay guys, too, right?
What they're into.
Like, some guys are just into other, like, crazy big gay guys.
And some guys, they're like twinks.
They're like little tiny little boys.
Hairless.
Yeah, there's this dude that I... Shave it down, brother.
...that I knew that was a...
producer type character so wealthy character that always had like these young boys with them they were always like just 20 years old a little confused like that's I know a well-known comic who likes that one do you only know one oh yeah that's true I know several yeah that's sort of that's kind of a type there's all types there's otters cubs otters what's an otter No,
christina pazsitzky
I believe an otter, it's a tall, slender, hairless, is an otter, as opposed to a big, hairy, fat, which is a bear.
tom segura
And a younger bear is actually a cub, right?
christina pazsitzky
A cub.
So bears go with cubs.
And cubs are just smaller and more malleable.
But now I heard that the word twink is becoming taboo.
The way that fag is kind of not cool to say.
I think twink is starting to become in the air.
tom segura
Everybody's fired up about something.
unidentified
Please stop the tide of...
christina pazsitzky
Well, here's what happened.
So, you know, Andy Cohen on Bravo, I think he went on some other show and he's like, oh, look at all these twinks here.
And then the twink community got really upset and started tweeting them.
unidentified
What?
tom segura
Yeah, I know.
christina pazsitzky
And so he apologized to the twinks.
unidentified
Oh, God.
joe rogan
But isn't he gay, Andy?
unidentified
Yes.
He is so gay.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, he's totally.
Oh, God.
joe rogan
He apologized to the twinks.
Everybody is just looking for an opportunity to be sensitive.
tom segura
Yes.
joe rogan
We are in such a weird time.
christina pazsitzky
It is.
joe rogan
It's like people have found reward in pointing at hot button things like that.
Like, hey, at the twin community, we do not reach what you're doing.
tom segura
Or being offended.
joe rogan
The twin community was all organized.
tom segura
You know who else is fucking super annoying?
I mean, this one's a way different level of what assholes they are.
It's just like one million moms.
joe rogan
What is that?
tom segura
It's just like we're mothers that are Christian that want to raise fucking great kids, but we're completely bigoted, discriminatory assholes.
They publicly lash out for the second or third time At JCPenney for having Ellen DeGeneres as their spokesman.
They're like, you realize that none of us are ever going to shop there again?
Because you hired Ellen to be your...
That kind of shit.
And they got really mad about her latest Christmas commercial with elves.
And they're like, you have a gay woman with elves?
What's going to fucking happen next?
unidentified
Sodomy!
joe rogan
That's a good point.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, what would happen next?
unidentified
What will happen next if lesbians and elves get together?
joe rogan
You've got lesbians mixing up with magical creatures.
unidentified
That's right.
joe rogan
Shit could get crazy.
unidentified
Definitely.
joe rogan
What if they have nefarious intentions and they develop some sort of lesbian pixie dust?
christina pazsitzky
That's right.
joe rogan
And they spray it over a city while they're flying around.
christina pazsitzky
And your kids become gay elves.
joe rogan
Yeah, and everybody becomes lesbian elves.
tom segura
Yeah, we've got a bunch of miniature gay elves running around.
joe rogan
Listen, man, you mock.
christina pazsitzky
Now, I wonder, does the lesbian community have these genres?
I don't know.
I don't know much.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
They have lipstick lesbians.
Oh, right, butch.
Fred Flintstone-looking lesbians.
unidentified
Lipstick's the best, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, that's the kind that you like.
unidentified
Yeah, the lipsticks is the pretty ones who kiss the other pretty ones.
joe rogan
Oh, yes, 100%.
The other ones are intimidating, especially if they want to fight.
tom segura
We're not always good at shows either.
I don't think they have the best sense of humor.
unidentified
No, they can.
christina pazsitzky
They can be cool.
For me, maybe not for you.
joe rogan
They can be cool.
It's like you can't really generalize a whole fucking sexual orientation.
I've met a lot of cool lesbians.
tom segura
Me too.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, they're great.
joe rogan
I've met a lot of annoying straight people too.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, everybody sucks in their own way.
joe rogan
God damn it.
That's sort of the anti-positive approach.
Everybody's got their own special gift.
Everybody sucks in their own way.
You took that shit to the dark place.
christina pazsitzky
It's true.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
And so true.
It is true.
unidentified
We have a little something fucking with us.
tom segura
I have to ask you this.
I wanted to get your thoughts on Pacquiao going down to Marquez.
joe rogan
It was crazy.
tom segura
Crazy, huh?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, Manny Pacquiao, first of all, is a super nice guy.
Tosh and I filmed this thing with him.
Where I played Daniel Tasha's manager, and he was going to let Manny Pacquiao punch him in the face for some strange reason.
tom segura
I like that.
joe rogan
And so Manny Pacquiao, he's very nice about it, by the way.
He kind of tapped him, and I'm like, hit him harder, hit him harder.
And Tasha's looking at me like, what the fuck, man?
He's not going to hurt you, dude.
Just hit him a little harder, just a little harder.
Even then, Manny Pacquiao so gently tapped him.
But he's so nice.
He's a really friendly guy.
He doesn't have any weird feeling around him.
He's a super duper star.
He travels deep with this giant entourage that's taking care of everything around him all the time.
And he's like the nicest guy in the world.
So that made me sad.
But that's the game he's playing.
He plays a crazy game.
That game is you are competing with your consciousness.
You're competing with your physical health.
You're competing against another man who's a trained killer.
Yeah.
When he hits you, your body is just like any other body.
And if someone hits you perfectly like he did, twice he nailed it.
He dropped him with that first one and most likely he was still hurt from that.
But that second punch was so powerful.
That was like the perfect punch.
Because Pacquiao was moving forward and Marquez caught him moving forward and just crushed him in his tracks.
tom segura
He was lights out on the way down.
joe rogan
Yeah, it was one of the worst or best one-punch knockouts I've ever seen in all of boxing.
I think it goes in the top ten.
It's like, I mean, that shit is right up there with Paul Williams getting knocked out by Sergio Martinez.
Did you see that?
unidentified
Uh-uh.
Uh-uh.
joe rogan
Sergio Martinez has got a vicious left hand and he's like super athletic and moves around a lot.
And he nailed Paul Williams like this perfect overhand left as he was moving in and just spun him around and face planted.
It was just like that.
unidentified
Jesus.
joe rogan
But I just didn't expect to see that with Pacquiao.
tom segura
I think I was seeing some stats on it that that was his first time being knocked out since 98. Maybe knocked down even since 98?
joe rogan
I think he's been dropped.
unidentified
Dropped?
joe rogan
I think he's been dropped.
Some incredible stat that it hadn't happened since 98. Actually, now that I think about it, I think Marquez dropped him in his fight.
In this fight, before he knocked him out, that was the first fight Marquez had knocked him down.
He had knocked Marquez down before, but Marquez had staggered him before.
But somebody had stopped him earlier in his career.
He had been knocked out earlier in his career, but never like this.
This was one of those knockouts that might just be a game changer.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
And you know, boxers, what you're seeing, first of all, in Manny, is you're seeing a guy who's already had, before this fight, they had three crazy fucking wars.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Three wars.
tom segura
Yeah, brutal wars.
joe rogan
Back and forth, blasting each other.
And you, how many of those can you have, really, in your life?
There's a number.
It might be ten, it might be seven, everybody's different depending on when you start, depending on how good your defense is, but you're gonna get nailed.
You're getting your head hit, you're getting your body hit.
You've got a lot of fucking problems.
tom segura
And that, among other fights, training, sparring sessions, just hundreds of punches.
joe rogan
That was the point.
The point is, what you're seeing is a tiny fraction of the actual damage his head has taken, because you're only seeing one fight.
So you think about all the fights that he's had, all the punches that he's taken, it's a tremendous amount of punishment as is.
Then you have to factor in the fact that that is a fraction of the actual punishment.
Then you start getting an idea of what the fuck is really going on when you're training for a fight.
You have to have a number in your head or a feeling or a time or what.
You've got to know when to fucking get out because the more you do that shit, the more one day it's going to catch up with you.
But with a guy like Pacquiao, it's super hard for those guys to just go out on top.
Floyd Mayweather retired and then he came back.
He almost went out on top.
He almost said fuck it and went out on top.
But I think he's probably the most cautious out of all of them.
tom segura
Floyd?
joe rogan
Yeah.
He's the most cautious stylistically.
Very rarely gets hit.
When he does get hit, recovers very well.
Shane Mosley was the last one to tag him.
He goes through entire fights where he barely gets tagged.
He just boxes the shit out of people.
And I love that.
I love the fact that the guy's still...
Not only is he unbeaten, he's really unchallenged.
I think he's 36 now.
That's pretty unheard of.
And he looks fantastic.
tom segura
And his defense is so incredible.
joe rogan
He's a brilliant boxer.
He's brilliant.
And he probably would have boxed the shit out of Manny Pacquiao.
Especially seeing what he did to Martinez and what Pacquiao was able to do to Martinez.
And then the difference is, Martinez and Floyd wasn't even close.
Floyd just outboxed the shit out of him.
I mean, he just couldn't get to him.
Floyd is just too good.
tom segura
He's too good at positioning.
He throws amazing punches.
He recovers well, and people don't realize sometimes that, depending on how good whoever he's fighting at the time, that a lot of times he boxes gloves down because he's so quick.
He doesn't pull up his gloves for a lot of fights.
His gloves are down, and he's dipping around, playing with people.
joe rogan
He does that shoulder roll thing.
Where he walks towards guys with his left shoulder up high and his right glove by his face, and they don't know what to do with that.
He's so good.
His reflexes are so good.
And now that Adrian Broner guy, have you seen that kid?
That upcoming kid?
Oh my god, this kid's a monster.
He's like Floyd Mayweather, but with more punching power.
tom segura
Same weight class?
joe rogan
I think he's 47. I'm not sure.
Or he might be 35. He's either 35 and struggling to make the weight and moving up to 40 or 47. Whatever it is.
This kid's dynamite.
He has that same style.
That high left shoulder up.
tom segura
It's incredible.
joe rogan
There's some fucking killers out there.
tom segura
No fucking lead glove for most of your...
your left glove is down.
It's crazy.
joe rogan
It is crazy, but they're so good at those duck and roll counter right hands, and you don't want to get clipped by that shit.
So guys are real cautious.
And he's so good at slipping jabs, so good at anticipating your movement.
The best boxers are great at leading guys into certain directions and anticipating how they respond.
A guy like Floyd Mayweather is not an impulsive guy.
He's like a guy who's going to set traps for you.
So he'll lead you in certain directions and see how you respond and then lead you in that certain direction again and see how you respond and then set you up for a time Where he's going to lead you in that certain direction and he's going to stop, bang!
He's going to catch you because you do a certain thing over and over again.
You do a certain thing with gloves and you move off the ropes and he's going to catch you.
tom segura
He's going to figure it out too.
joe rogan
He's going to figure it out and that's another thing that Anderson Silva does.
Anderson Silva, he moves around with the guy for like the first minute or two, kind of gets a sense of how he operates, how he moves, feints him a little bit, and then starts setting him up.
Starts setting him up for death.
tom segura
For death, yeah.
joe rogan
Setting him up for a dismantling.
tom segura
Yeah, Floyd's even, his defense is so interesting and so developed that when you watch him box, sometimes you'll see him get up against the ropes.
And you're like, oh, he's up against the ropes.
This guy might take advantage of this.
And then Floyd somehow...
He pulls it into his defense.
His defense becomes his offense.
And you're like, oh no, he's fucking ripping this guy apart.
joe rogan
He's just too good.
He's so good at straight boxing.
It's amazing.
And he's a guy that's had a lot of hand problems, too.
That guy broke his hands several times.
So he goes for the biggest, cushioniest gloves.
And because of that, I think, because of his fragile hands, there's a lot of guys he doesn't knock out because of that very reason.
Because he's had problems with his hands over and over again.
The way he knocked out Homeboy from England.
What the fuck's his name?
unidentified
Hatton?
joe rogan
Ricky Hatton.
Holy shit!
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
That was brilliant.
And that was when Hatton was in his prime.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Hatton was an animal, you know?
tom segura
Yeah, it floats so fast.
joe rogan
He just boxed the shit out of him.
He just boxes the shit out of guys.
They just can't get to him.
tom segura
You just reminded me, I'm going to be in Vegas this week.
Yo, Floyd, if you want to grab lunch, if you want to grab dinner, please bring Roger.
joe rogan
Yo, Floyd, he wants to be a part of Team Money, okay?
tom segura
Money team all the way, man.
Big fan.
joe rogan
Tommy Bonds is all about Team Money.
tom segura
Money team, I want to roll with you.
I need a new watch, dawg.
joe rogan
What is going on, man?
Cat Williams hit somebody in the head with a microphone or something?
unidentified
He punched a dude in target.
tom segura
He slapped that guy.
christina pazsitzky
What is going on with that?
unidentified
He got in a car chase with the cops.
tom segura
He's working on a new hour.
Give him a fucking break.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ, so sensitive.
unidentified
Wait, what was that?
christina pazsitzky
To bring back to me, we watched this 24-7.
Was that his uncle that trains him?
unidentified
Yeah, Roger.
christina pazsitzky
I love that guy.
joe rogan
Black Mamba.
He was a former champion himself.
Roger Mayweather had a vicious right hand.
tom segura
What a great family.
24-7.
Miguel Cotto is still my favorite, right?
When Cotto's like, I know Floyd is a supreme athlete, great boxer, and we have to be ready for war.
And they cut to Roger Mayweather.
joe rogan
whether he goes I don't give a fuck about Miguel Cotto not just that you're like ah that's rad well the level of technique that Floyd has is so above and beyond everybody else he fights that he has that kind of confidence Miguel Cotto, especially during that fight, was a prime athlete.
Margarita was the only one that ever really fucked up Miguel Cotto when he was in his prime, like that, and stopped him.
And that was when Margarita was accused of having loaded gloves.
Because he got busted in one of his subsequent fights.
But Miguel Cotto was a badass fucking boxer.
But boxing with Floyd, he makes everybody look goofy.
They look like...
They just don't really know what he's doing.
They don't really belong in there with him.
He figured you out early enough, and now every time you step, he's popping a jab in your face, and there's no retaliation.
He's not there, and then you look stupid.
tom segura
You do.
joe rogan
And he slowly breaks you down.
He's just so good.
tom segura
He's a superb boxer, man.
Superb athlete.
joe rogan
But if I had a choice between watching him and Anderson Silva, I'd be like, bitch.
I would way rather watch Anderson Silva fight.
It's not even a question.
That's one of the reasons why I like MMA so much better.
I like a good fight with Floyd Mayweather.
If I found out Floyd Mayweather is going to fight Pacquiao before this last thing, then I would be super excited.
But when he's fighting...
If he's fighting somebody that I don't give a fuck about, he's just gonna box this guy up.
It'll be interesting to watch, but I can watch it on HBO next week.
tom segura
Sure.
I've asked this before, but how famous is Anderson Silva in Brazil?
joe rogan
Oh, it's like Michael Jordan and Michael Jackson had a baby.
unidentified
Really?
tom segura
That famous?
joe rogan
It's incredible.
He's a super superstar.
They love him, man.
tom segura
That's awesome.
joe rogan
The cheers, when he goes on into the octagon, when he steps up the stairs and walks in, they close the door behind him, they're fucking deafening.
I took my headphones off, and I said, I go to Mike Goldberg while I was talking to him on the air, I go, take your headphones off.
I go, take your headphones off and feel this.
He takes the headphones off.
He's like, we're just looking at each other like, whoa.
There's 20,000 people in Rio, and they are going fucking bananas.
And Anderson walks in and bows, and they're going, fuck.
Fucking ape shit.
That's so cool.
And then he goes out there and dismantles Stephen Bonner in a way that doesn't even seem human.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
He did it like some fucking kung fu movie dude who just got bolted with some secret lightning power.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Like, he had superpowers, so it didn't even make any sense.
He did movie shit.
He stepped with his back up against the cage and let Stephen Bonner throw punches at him with his hands down and just ducked and moved in front of him and then threw Bonner to the ground and knocked him unconscious with a knee.
To the body.
Blasted with a knee to the body.
Boom!
He goes down in a turtle position.
Done.
The way he did it was superhuman.
It was like a guy in a movie.
If you saw a guy do that in Bourne Identity, you'd be like, bitch, nobody can do that.
tom segura
Get the fuck out of here.
joe rogan
Put your back up against the wall.
Nobody puts their back up against the cage.
How about the best fighter in the fucking world does that?
The best guy ever.
Puts his back up against the case to a big giant dude like Stefan Bonner.
Who's cotton weight down from like 230 to fight at 205 and Anderson fights at 185. He still ragdolls the guy.
It's freaky.
He's freaky.
There's nobody that freaks me out when you watch the shit they can do to really high-level grown fighters.
No one freaks me out like Anderson.
It's like you're watching a rare master.
You're going to get a chance to talk about this when you get old.
There's people that talk about when they saw a Joe Louis fight.
That's all well and good.
Anderson Silva would have fucked up Joe Louis.
Listen to me.
I don't get what anybody says.
Anderson Silva in an MMA fight would fuck Joe Louis up.
You're watching something crazy.
You're watching the baddest fighter that's ever walked the face of the planet.
The shit he does to guys, even really good guys, is shocking.
tom segura
Do you think he could beat Jean-Claude Van Damme?
joe rogan
I don't know, man.
It depends on which movie it is.
You know, if it's like one of Jean-Claude Van Damme's, like one of his signature movies.
tom segura
Bloodsport?
joe rogan
You know, if it's like a Bloodsport 2, Van Damme has a heart that you will never be able to appreciate.
My heart.
Have you ever seen him cry in his reality show?
It's amazing.
tom segura
Yeah, I did see that.
christina pazsitzky
He has a show I didn't even know.
He used to, right?
Or Steven Seagal.
joe rogan
I remember him.
He is awesome.
He's awesome.
christina pazsitzky
Steven Seagal.
joe rogan
He's awesome in a totally different way.
Steven Seagal is awesome as well.
But Jean-Claude Van Damme is awesome in a completely different way.
tom segura
What was the movie that he came out with a year or two ago?
What was the movie he came out with that was about...
joe rogan
What, do you think I'm crazy?
You think I know what movies he's doing?
unidentified
No, no, no.
tom segura
This one was actually good.
christina pazsitzky
Where he played...
joe rogan
Oh, JCVD. Yeah, he played himself.
I have that on Blu-ray.
unidentified
I like that.
tom segura
I'm a fan!
joe rogan
I never said I wasn't a fan.
I love Jean-Claude Van Damme.
He's still crazy.
He has a reality show.
I've only seen the videos on the internet, but you can readily get them on the internet.
Wonderful.
He's crazy.
And he keeps talking about, I'm going to have this fight.
unidentified
I'm going to have to fight one more time for the children.
joe rogan
He has these crazy ideas.
They say, Jean-Claude, you did a lot of cocaine, and a lot of other things.
I'm not happy about those other things, but I'm going to make it up with this fight, and I'm going to win by knockout!
unidentified
And it's like so crazy and over the top.
joe rogan
Like he's acting.
It's like this strange hybrid between a reality show and a movie.
And what he's doing is really strange because he's saying he's going to have a fight.
And he's got this guy that he keeps dragging around with him that he's saying he's having.
But the problem is he's been doing this for like four years.
So this guy, for these four years, he's been saying he's going to fight.
And they pose for stare downs.
tom segura
For years!
joe rogan
For years, man.
I mean, for fucking years.
tom segura
That's weird.
joe rogan
It's still going on.
And he's still like, well, you know, I'm going to have this fight and I'm going to do it for the children and to show them you can bounce back from all of this bullshit and this cocaine.
And it's fucking wonderful.
unidentified
Can we do that?
christina pazsitzky
We have to watch this.
joe rogan
That might be it.
That might be one of them.
There's a lot of them.
He's got a lot of them.
tom segura
Can I do...
joe rogan
But generally, he seems like a really nice guy.
He does.
He seems like real friendly.
He doesn't seem like he's trying to be a hard ass.
Even when he's saying he's going to knock the guy out, you're like, aw, come on, give me a hug.
Come on.
Get over here and give me a hug.
tom segura
By the way...
joe rogan
You don't need cocaine, man.
You need to stop.
tom segura
You know that you said it's like a weird hybrid between reality and...
I think that's the new and next step that's going to really develop for television is shows like Duck Hunters, Duck Dynasty, where it's that family and they go, this is a reality show, but it's clearly produced too well.
These are real people.
They're not actors.
But all the moments are too well-constructed.
christina pazsitzky
Produced moments.
tom segura
The wife comes in right at the moment when the guys are fucking cutting a hole in the ceiling and she's like, what are you assholes doing?
It's so weird.
It's in Louisiana.
christina pazsitzky
It's Louisiana.
joe rogan
You done lost your redneck.
I ain't lost my redneck.
Oh man, you done lost your redneck.
tom segura
It's a funny show.
joe rogan
I'll show you I ain't lost my redneck.
unidentified
Yeah.
You're dating all these, what do they call them, yuppie girls that don't eat frog legs.
christina pazsitzky
I love that old guy.
The patriarch's great in that.
joe rogan
It's so full of shit, though.
tom segura
It's full of shit.
joe rogan
Have you seen Swamp People?
tom segura
No!
joe rogan
Okay, Swamp People is just, they should call that show Alligator Assassins, okay?
Because it's just a bunch of motherfuckers that live in Florida and kill alligators.
And they kill a fuckload of alligators, okay?
They kill like 500 of them a season.
tom segura
I went to high school with a few of those guys.
I think I remember them.
joe rogan
Dude, they kill a lot of alligators.
It's really freaky to think there's that many goddamn alligators out there.
And you know what's really freaky?
A lot of people might not like this, but if they weren't killing those alligators, those alligators would fuck and make more alligators.
And if you think of how many fucking alligators they're killing, do you know what kind of an infestation of alligators we must have in this country?
christina pazsitzky
I know, right?
joe rogan
Jesus Christ!
They're killing hundreds and hundreds of them.
tom segura
And in Florida?
Holy shit.
unidentified
It's out of control.
joe rogan
Yeah, they have to.
tom segura
They still end up in people's backyards all the time, man.
All the time.
joe rogan
When I lived in Gainesville, they were protected.
You couldn't kill them.
tom segura
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, when I was a kid, I lived in Florida.
I didn't know that.
Yeah, yeah.
I lived in Gainesville for two years.
My dad was going to the University of Florida.
And we used to go to Lake Alice.
There's this little lake there.
And we used to feed the alligators marshmallows.
christina pazsitzky
Get out!
joe rogan
Yeah, you'd flip, throw the marshmallows in the water.
unidentified
That's so crazy.
joe rogan
You'd be like, whoa, these are crazy monsters.
We're feeding these monsters.
But they didn't really fuck with people too much.
They occasionally would get a dog.
Like if someone, they walked their dog too close to the water, didn't see the alligator.
Alligators can't help themselves.
But I guess they would feed them or something.
I don't know.
I don't know what the fuck they did.
They must have done something to keep them happy if they were around people.
But apparently it got to a certain point where there was just so many fucking alligators they had to do something about it.
tom segura
Oh, yeah.
I mean, I used to see...
I went to high school in Florida and, you know, you would see them golf courses, you'd see people's backyards.
There were a lot of people at pools in Florida.
joe rogan
How often do they kill people, alligators?
tom segura
I don't think it happens that often.
I don't think it happens that often.
But, I mean, I'm sure there's statistics on it, but I don't remember a lot of...
joe rogan
Like one a year maybe?
tom segura
Maybe one of those kind of things, yeah.
I know people lose, you know, limbs and people go to get their golf ball and they go into the little pond or the lake and you can lose a hand.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, I think you gotta be fucking with them.
joe rogan
Fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck.
tom segura
I think you let that ball go.
joe rogan
Fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck.
tom segura
Get a new tidalist.
unidentified
Jesus Christ.
tom segura
Leave it in the water.
unidentified
Yeah, absolutely.
joe rogan
It's so terrifying, man.
christina pazsitzky
But I don't think they like human flesh.
That's not their first.
tom segura
No.
christina pazsitzky
I know because in Crocodile, like when I was on road rolls with a crocodile.
joe rogan
They eat shit.
They'll eat a bag of shit.
unidentified
They will.
joe rogan
They would eat people, they just haven't.
tom segura
License plates and tires and shit.
christina pazsitzky
But it's not their preference.
When we were on road rules in Australia, we went to a crocodile farm, and the guy that owned it was explaining how they don't really want to eat us.
But if they're hungry and there's nothing else, that's when they'll fuck with you.
If you're down by the fucking swamp and you're like, oh, hey.
What are you doing here?
And then it'll grab you and death roll you.
joe rogan
But I think that the only reason why they don't do it is because they don't recognize us as a food source.
christina pazsitzky
As a delicious meal.
joe rogan
Because they don't usually eat us.
But once they recognize us as a food source, that's when it becomes a real problem.
There was one they killed in the Philippines recently.
It was a fucking huge, huge saltwater crocodile.
And it had killed a bunch of villagers.
They knew that there was this one giant crocodile.
It was more than 20 fucking feet long.
And it was killing people.
So they had to go after it and go get it.
tom segura
And there was that one that was killing a bunch of people, wasn't it, in Canada?
One that the movie is based on.
In Canada?
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
A crocodile in Canada?
tom segura
No, some lake.
Some northern sitting lake.
unidentified
Really?
tom segura
Not a croc, maybe a gator.
Right, that's what the movie's about.
joe rogan
What movie is it?
christina pazsitzky
Oh shit, I remember what you're talking about.
tom segura
Not Lake Michigan.
Remember the movie Lake Michigan?
Was it Placid?
unidentified
Lake Placid?
joe rogan
Lake Placid, the movie?
tom segura
That's based on a real story.
joe rogan
Get the fuck up.
tom segura
I swear to God.
joe rogan
Get the fuck up.
tom segura
I think I met one of the writers on that who told me that.
joe rogan
What?
tom segura
I'm pretty sure, man.
I might be wrong on the location, but I know it's based on a real murdering gator.
joe rogan
What?
A murdering gator?
tom segura
I think so.
Is that right?
unidentified
Maybe, man.
joe rogan
What's the true story of Lake Placid's alligator?
Let's go to Wiki Answers.
How beautiful is this day and age?
tom segura
You can just do that.
christina pazsitzky
Remember when you used to have Encyclopedia Britannica?
joe rogan
That shit was wack as fuck.
I know.
The story is based off the 1943 mysterious disappearances of ten teenagers while playing one night on Lake Placid.
Okay, so it's just a rumor.
tom segura
Okay, so the movie just adds the gator concept to it or something?
joe rogan
Well, apparently it became a legend because it happened in 1943, and so people would talk about it, and so the movie is based on this actual monster, and it's sort of a tiny treat.
unidentified
See, guys?
It's a factual story.
Tom's right, guys.
christina pazsitzky
Tom's right.
tom segura
Don't send me your tweets or your emails about how I'm wrong.
I'm right.
We just read it on the Internet.
joe rogan
Basically, it's in what you said cannot be argued.
tom segura
There you go.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a dumbass movie.
Fucking alligator off of Michigan.
That alligator would be freezing his dick off.
tom segura
It's in New York, right?
joe rogan
Is it?
christina pazsitzky
Is that where it took place?
joe rogan
Is that where it took place?
30 foot long man-eating crocodile which terrorizes the fictitional location of Black Lake, Maine.
Oh, that's even more ridiculous.
Maine is only, like, thawed out for like a month, a year.
tom segura
Maine is cold as fuck.
unidentified
Maine, there you go.
tom segura
So I wasn't that far off when I said Canada, right?
joe rogan
New York State's pretty close.
Canada's close to Maine.
tom segura
Sure, there you go.
joe rogan
You were in that box.
tom segura
True story.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
There you go.
tom segura
Write it down.
unidentified
That's a...
christina pazsitzky
Winter gators.
joe rogan
If you think about a perfect nightmare that's chasing after you, it's a giant reptile, right?
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Because they're so emotionless and cunty.
They don't give a fuck.
tom segura
It's a dinosaur, right?
It's just an extension of a T-Rex chasing you.
joe rogan
It's an animal that has virtually not changed for 200 million years.
They existed in this form 200 million years ago.
What the fuck, man?
christina pazsitzky
So strong.
They're all muscle, muscle, muscle.
unidentified
Ugh.
joe rogan
And they're just like the cleaning systems of ecosystems.
Yeah, right.
They're the cleaners.
They come in, anything that's limping, you're done, son.
tom segura
You're done.
joe rogan
Anything that's jacked, anything that goes and tries to get water out of the wrong spot, slam, keep the population down.
Boom!
Are you trying to cross this river?
unidentified
Not!
joe rogan
Snap!
Have you ever seen those river crossings with those Nile crocodiles?
Step up and just huge dinosaur jaws clamp down on wildebeest and drag them underwater.
You're like, what is going on here?
This is a system that's set up.
A life system.
Life and death.
There's a population control mechanism in effect.
Big cats and alligators.
I mean crocodiles.
Is it any coincidence that that's the place where there's the most gazelles?
tom segura
Oh yeah.
joe rogan
Those fucking things are running around everywhere.
Everything's running around everywhere.
Wildebeests and all these things.
Just giant things trying to eat them and keep their populations down.
tom segura
The footage of that is always the same.
If you watch those Nat Geo shows, there'll be like these 50 gazelles crossing the river and you're like, huh.
unidentified
I wonder...
tom segura
And then like three seconds go by and you're like, oh, there's one that's not with the pack.
I think we should watch him for a second.
And then you watch him kind of limp in, tentatively cross the creek.
And that croc comes up and is like, game fucking over.
joe rogan
They're such machines.
They're so terrifying.
And they can be under that water for hours.
They don't have to breathe for hours.
So they sit under the water waiting for someone to come by.
And then the water's all fucking murky and shit.
You can't see that big dinosaur waiting there to eat babies.
That monster.
tom segura
And how perfectly designed is he?
joe rogan
Oh, God!
tom segura
When you see footage of his eyes just out of the water, so it's just up like just over the water, you're like, oh, shit.
joe rogan
Horrific, horrific monster.
christina pazsitzky
I remember, okay, this is gonna sound really lame, but on road rules, I had to, um, we had to put a bag over a crocodile's head.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
christina pazsitzky
So you have to, first you have to clamp its jaws shut, and then duct tape it, and then you put a bag on its head, and then you step, you sit on it.
You have to sit on it to hold it still, and that's how we would transport it, like, for one of the missions.
That's hilarious.
So this guy Keefla on the show, he had a pole and he was trying to rope the crocodile's neck and the crocodile went into a death roll.
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus.
christina pazsitzky
And his shirt got caught in the pole and started to twist around his arm and it was cutting off a circulation.
joe rogan
Oh my God.
christina pazsitzky
And everybody was like, holy fuck!
Like when that really happens on a reality show, like you don't know what to do.
So he was just screaming, cut the shirt!
unidentified
Cut the shirt!
christina pazsitzky
Cut the fucking shirt!
And I'm like, there's no scissors in the outback.
Somebody had to rummage through their sound kit or whatever.
joe rogan
And this thing was still spinning?
christina pazsitzky
Spinning, spinning.
joe rogan
How big is this alligator?
christina pazsitzky
It was medium-sized, 10 to 15 feet long, like a teenager.
joe rogan
Was its teeth clamped down on his shirt?
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, so you clamp the jaws shut and then somebody duct tapes the jaws together.
joe rogan
And somehow or another got a hold of the teeth.
christina pazsitzky
So no, so the next part is you have to put something around its neck.
And so Kefla was using a pole with a rope at the end of it.
tom segura
Like a loop rope.
christina pazsitzky
So they loop it that way.
joe rogan
Right, right, right.
christina pazsitzky
So he did it and somehow this crocodile like got latched onto maybe in his jaw.
tom segura
The rope.
christina pazsitzky
The rope.
And he just started death rolling.
joe rogan
Oh, wow.
christina pazsitzky
So it got the pole cottage shirt on his sleeve and then tightened the sleeve.
So we had to cut the shirt off of him.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
You gotta wear a spandex when you're fucking with crocodiles.
This is very important.
You'd be all tucked up and ready to sprint.
You need cleats as well.
You don't want to be slipping.
christina pazsitzky
No, dude.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
christina pazsitzky
Dangerous.
joe rogan
They found Nile crocodiles in Florida.
Have you heard that?
tom segura
No.
joe rogan
They have a shoot to kill order on Nile crocodiles in Florida.
They spotted a couple of them.
tom segura
So people transported in Nile Crocodiles.
unidentified
Jesus.
joe rogan
You assholes.
That was probably some dude who was trying to guard his cocaine.
I know what I'm going to do.
I'm going to have a fucking mole with Nile Crocodiles.
Those big ones, 28 foot long.
Eat a motherfucking wheel with a BC one bite.
You're going to fuck with my cocaine.
tom segura
Some Colombian definitely.
unidentified
That's right.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, that was.
joe rogan
Well, didn't those dudes back in the Miami Vice days, didn't those dudes have leopards in their backyard?
christina pazsitzky
Rico and Tubbs, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, those guys too.
unidentified
He had a crocodile in his boat!
christina pazsitzky
Yes, that's what I'm saying.
joe rogan
Or an alligator, some sort of big lizard.
christina pazsitzky
He did, dude.
It was on his boat.
That's right.
joe rogan
It was chained up on his boat.
That's what I'm talking about.
That was the doucheous era.
I got a panther and I got a crocodile.
That was the douchiest era in all of humanity.
The 80s cocaine days of Miami is the douchiest era of all time.
Everybody wanted to have a pet tiger.
You go over to this guy's house.
He's got fucking peacocks walking on his front lawn.
You're like, what's happening here?
tom segura
It's all my shit.
joe rogan
This is my python collection.
What we do is we grow them to about 10 feet long.
I just take them out of the Everglades.
You can't control them after they're 10 feet long.
I just get a new one and start from scratch.
Retrain them.
Just releasing pythons.
unidentified
They fucking have pythons out there that are 20 feet long.
tom segura
It's the same dude who has grenades.
I got a hundred grenades in the living room.
joe rogan
I got rocket launchers under my couch, but I don't tend to use them.
tom segura
Why do you have that, man?
joe rogan
If you want to blow through a wall, there's a wall in your way.
tom segura
That's why I got a puma in my weight room.
joe rogan
Yeah, I got a puma that I keep there for inspiration.
Sometimes I don't feed him.
He get real hungry.
unidentified
I'll be lifting weights right next to him.
tom segura
I got some wolf colors.
unidentified
Motivation.
joe rogan
It's just the fact that he eyeballing me knowing that I look delicious and nutritious and he's starving to death and make me do more squats.
Make me do more squats.
tom segura
I got paper plates with diamonds on them and shit.
christina pazsitzky
Well, it's not shit in New York City.
I saw a reality show where someone, they'll buy like baby crocodiles and shit and keep them in the bathtub.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, people do that.
There was a guy who got...
tom segura
Cool guy.
joe rogan
I think it was...
tom segura
Keep doing that.
joe rogan
I think it was either Brooklyn or the Bronx, but he got mauled by a tiger that he had as a pet in an apartment.
christina pazsitzky
Tommy's got a joke about that.
joe rogan
Oh, you do?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Well, I don't want to give up your bits.
tom segura
No, man.
No, it's just funny.
unidentified
It's an old one.
joe rogan
Oh, it's an old joke?
tom segura
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
How does it go?
Come on, hit it, buddy.
unidentified
I'll do it if you tell me the words.
tom segura
I talk about another guy.
unidentified
I'll do it.
tom segura
I talk about the guy, what's it called, that had the animals at his house and he released them.
You know, remember?
joe rogan
Oh, the guy in Ohio, yeah.
tom segura
I have a bit about that.
It's on my new album.
joe rogan
He killed himself, right?
tom segura
I'm not plugging it or anything.
joe rogan
Didn't he kill himself?
unidentified
Yeah, he did.
tom segura
He killed them.
Well, he cut up.
He released them all.
And then I believe he cut up some chickens and poured the blood all over himself.
With dead animals on him.
And then he had lions and shit that he released, so he got fucked up by everything.
I think he might have been dead before they got to him, but they eventually, animals were pulling his dead body apart.
christina pazsitzky
That's a crazy way to go out.
I've never heard that before.
joe rogan
Whoa, that's a dude who really loves animals.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, right?
Part of the ecosystem.
joe rogan
What a silly fuck.
Well, you know, the whole zoo life is really a...
It's a crazy torture that we do so that we can look at animals in real life.
Because they don't even allow them to live a natural life while in captivity.
It's one thing if we had them in an ecosystem that was similar to their own, so we put them in these containment areas and then we let loose antelopes or whatever the fuck it is that they get to run and chase down and kill.
If that was the case, I think that that would at least be a rewarding life for these cats.
When you keep pushing that meat out to them and they don't get any sort of chase reward thing going on, We see, like, they play with each other.
Like, they want to chase things.
Like, it's a part of the whole dynamics of their organism.
Like, they're designed to chase and kill shit.
They're designed to kill all the limpid shit.
And so you put them in this cage, just, like, jolting their brain.
Like, they never get a chance to express what they were put on Earth to do.
It sounds fucked up.
christina pazsitzky
It's depressing.
joe rogan
But what are you going to do?
Are you going to stop the gazelles from breeding and you're going to control the gazelle?
Put a few fucking gazelles in the cage with them.
Okay?
Just let them in there.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, and then invite me to watch it.
I'll pay extra.
unidentified
Definitely.
joe rogan
Here's the key.
What's the difference, goddammit, between the meat that you're giving them?
Because you're giving them meat.
Someone's killing an animal and someone's giving him that meat.
Why can't he do that?
Because you know he wants to.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
joe rogan
Someone else is killing it.
It's not like you're saving an animal.
Someone else is killing a fucking animal, and you're cutting it up, and then you're sliding it under the track.
Why not just let a cow loose and let them go?
tom segura
And talk about driving up revenue, because if they were like, hey, it's an extra 70 to watch, I'd be like, here you go.
joe rogan
You know, that's what they do in Asia.
In Asia, when they feed tigers, they release goats.
Brian, Brian, pull one of those videos up.
You ready to freak the fuck out?
christina pazsitzky
Yes, yes.
joe rogan
This is like a common theme, apparently, in Asia.
When they have tigers, they just have this big dump truck, and they have the dump truck with a couple of fucking goats in it, and they...
And the goat doesn't know what the fuck is going on.
But the tigers do.
unidentified
You know what?
joe rogan
Because a new goat gets dropped off like that every day.
So the tigers stand there and stare while this thing backs up and beeps.
And they just wait.
And they get real close to it.
And as soon as this thing opens, the goat dumps out.
And boom!
They jump on it.
Three, four of them at a time.
Rip it apart into shreds in a matter of seconds.
And they run away.
One's got a head.
One's got a leg.
tom segura
I love this.
joe rogan
Do you find any?
christina pazsitzky
That's what they're supposed to do.
joe rogan
Wait till you see this shit, because this is a weird thing to see.
But this is what they want to do, okay?
I mean, if you're going to kill that goat anyway, if you're going to feed them goat, why wouldn't you do that?
Because then at least, I mean, it's still fucked up that you've got them contained like that, but at least then they get to live a tiger's life.
tom segura
I feel like the only reason we don't get that is because of some type of animal rights organizations here that don't really exist in other parts of the world.
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
I think our own lives for a lot of people are so fucking suppressive and ridiculous and restrained that we don't give a fuck about that stupid elephant.
Tough shit, bitch.
Take your cage.
I don't like my cubicle.
You don't like your cage?
christina pazsitzky
Oh, here it goes.
joe rogan
Look at this.
They're just sitting there watching and waiting.
These are lions.
This is a different one.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
But I guess they do what lions do.
unidentified
They're massive.
joe rogan
So they're just sitting around and they lift up this dunk truck.
They're opening the door right now and the lions are just hovering right in front of it.
christina pazsitzky
Here it comes.
unidentified
There's all the lions there.
This is a shitty way to go.
joe rogan
That beep is this guy honking his horn.
He's trying to control the lions by honking his horn.
tom segura
Imagine if you're in this.
christina pazsitzky
Good luck with that.
tom segura
And you're hogtied.
joe rogan
Look, this horn ain't doing shit to these lions.
Because they know.
Here it comes.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, with the horn.
joe rogan
Now the guy's going to lift it up.
It's really going high now.
And the thing's going to drop out.
Why is he honking with the horn, you son of a bitch?
Maybe he's got his dick out and he's really excited.
Something's gonna die.
Hey, well, here, he pulled it out of it.
There it is.
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
Oh my god, that's it.
They just latch onto it and just rip it to shreds.
Look at it, they're all playing tug-of-war.
There's like nine lines.
And another one tries to get in, and this one pawed at him.
See, that one's pawing at him.
tom segura
I don't hear it crying anymore.
What happened?
christina pazsitzky
Because that guy's honking.
tom segura
Look at that!
joe rogan
God damn it!
People are screaming.
christina pazsitzky
That is awesome.
I'd pay a lot to see that.
unidentified
Holy...
Is that a seven year old?
joe rogan
Okay, you do not want to fuck that chick.
Is that a girl or a boy?
If that's a girl, you do not want to fuck her.
If that's a boy, he needs to be monitored.
He needs to be monitored.
Look at that piece that it taught.
These are impressive, but these are lions.
If you can find tigers, Brian, see if you can find tigers, because the tiger video that I saw is way more quick.
Way more quickerer.
tom segura
Way more ferocious.
christina pazsitzky
But this does seem more humane, oddly, when you're feeding these wild animals.
joe rogan
Oh, it's totally more humane.
christina pazsitzky
Allow them to be in their element, to be with your nature.
joe rogan
That's what they're supposed to be doing.
I think that way is ridiculous, with a slow dump truck.
But there should be a gate, and you should let a couple of them out in the morning.
What the fuck are you going to do?
tom segura
I think the footage I saw from the Baghdad Zoo was like that.
joe rogan
Terrible way to die.
Someone's honking their horn.
And all of a sudden they're playing tug-of-war with your body, just ripping parts off your body.
With these monstrous jaws and giant white teeth that penetrate flesh and just pulling you apart literally for your sustenance, for your flesh.
What a suck world the world of the jungle is.
tom segura
My God.
joe rogan
The world of the jungle is a motherfucker.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
Here's another one.
This guy's, again, same thing.
This time it's tigers.
Look how much bigger the tigers are than the lions.
Again, a motherfucker with a horn.
This is like sport for them.
I guess they don't want him climbing inside.
There it is.
Oh, Jesus.
Check this out.
Look at this.
Boom.
Oh, my God.
Oh my god.
Listen to that thing make noise.
Oh man, it's biting.
He's killing it now.
He's just getting a hold of the neck.
Look at that.
That's it.
He broke the neck and killed it.
Look how quick he killed that thing, man.
That's a cow.
Dude, he killed that cow instantly with his jaws.
He just took it, snapped it, and killed it.
tom segura
It didn't look like it took a lot of effort.
christina pazsitzky
No.
tom segura
It kind of looked like he was picking up a cup to have a sip out of it.
joe rogan
That was a cow one.
The goat one's the most fucked up one because they just tear them apart and run away with the pieces.
unidentified
What a way to go for that goat.
joe rogan
But if you're a goat, you've got to realize this is what you're here for.
You're here to eat grass and get fucked up.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, you're not that high on the food chain.
joe rogan
One of these days, someone's going to find you slipping and they're going to eat your ass.
christina pazsitzky
Find you slipping.
joe rogan
Yeah, and you guys walk.
You make a lot of noise.
Mountain lions have good ears.
They're just gonna slowly sneak up behind you bitches and someone's gonna get jacked.
tom segura
Damn, I can't believe.
joe rogan
The odds you live in the tent are pretty small.
You gotta get out of here?
tom segura
No, I can't believe how little effort that was.
joe rogan
So easy.
To kill a cow.
A cow!
christina pazsitzky
I know.
joe rogan
Big ass cow!
tom segura
It's huge.
joe rogan
Grabbed him by the neck.
Shook it.
Snapped.
Boom.
christina pazsitzky
Would you rather be taken down by a lion or a crocodile?
joe rogan
I think you want a lion.
Because a lion is going to actually kill you.
The crocodile will just start eating you.
tom segura
And they drown you too.
joe rogan
They'll drown you.
They'll eat your dick first.
christina pazsitzky
They'll eat your dick first.
unidentified
That death roll?
christina pazsitzky
Those crocodiles love dick.
joe rogan
They'll eat your fucking delicious dick.
I think that's the thing with bears, too.
Bears, they don't kill you first.
They just eat you.
Because what you want to do is you want to get killed by a predator.
Because predators are always, if you're getting killed by something that doesn't always kill its stuff, sometimes it eats a lot of things that it finds laying around, whether it's carrion or whether it's berries or vegetables like bears.
They just eat you.
They're not concerned with killing you.
Once they have you, they have you.
They weigh 1,200 fucking pounds.
So they just start eating.
Why kill you first?
I don't care if you scream.
I'm trying to eat your dick.
unidentified
And they just chew chunks of you.
joe rogan
They say that the Grizzly Man documentary, when that guy died.
christina pazsitzky
Love it.
joe rogan
Amazing, right?
christina pazsitzky
Love it.
joe rogan
Folks, if you have not watched Grizzly Man, it's one of the best unintentional comedies in the history of filmmaking.
christina pazsitzky
It's what brought us together.
tom segura
Is it really?
It's kind of our love story.
christina pazsitzky
Tell me!
joe rogan
Tell me!
tom segura
When we were dating, I was like, I don't know, I forget, but we were like, we gotta go to see this movie about this fucking guy that lived with bears.
I remember the news story breaking.
And we went, and we're sitting in this theater, I think it was in Pasadena at a...
christina pazsitzky
A Lemley.
tom segura
Lemley.
So it was more of like, it was playing in the artsy theater.
It wasn't in the major release theaters.
It was in the artsy theaters around.
And we went, and there was maybe like 50 or 60 people at it.
And...
The whole time, every beat of the movie, we're in hysterics, laughing, and the other 50 people are not.
They're all serious moviegoers that really feel for the guys.
We have tears.
christina pazsitzky
Our eyes lock.
tom segura
We're getting looks from people.
We're getting looks like, it's not fucking funny, man.
Yeah, he's dead.
unidentified
We loved it.
joe rogan
Oh, it's so funny though.
It's like, it does a disservice to his life to pretend that he wasn't funny.
tom segura
Yeah, I agree.
Remember the pilot?
The best line is the pilot who would drop him off and he was like, he decided he wanted to go live with bears and I thought he was retarded.
unidentified
Yeah, that's right!
That guy summed up that dude's entire life.
joe rogan
My favorite part was when he was walking around with his camera Talking to his camera about how easy it would be if he was gay, but he's not gay.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
And he's like so obviously gay.
unidentified
So obvious.
joe rogan
And he's walking around with his camera and he's like talking to it.
I ran into some guy who his roommate, like apparently the grizzly man was in love with his roommate.
And when his roommate didn't reciprocate, he trashed his apartment.
Apparently he was a bit of an angry fellow.
tom segura
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Like if you ever saw the video and like he's screaming and yelling into the camera.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
He does like a bunch of different takes.
unidentified
Yes.
Yes.
Fuck you!
joe rogan
Fuck you, Park Rangers!
christina pazsitzky
The fuck are you doing for these pairs?
unidentified
Okay, I worked it out.
I worked it out.
Try it again.
joe rogan
It's due to my time.
And he's got this really obvious sort of femme gay voice.
He's got that voice.
This unmistakable, stereotypical, cartoonish gay voice.
And so he's walking, holding up the camera, going, well, if I was gay, I could just go to a rest stop and meet a guy.
But I'm not.
Timothy Treadwell's not gay.
It's the weirdest thing.
This poor fucking guy.
He was so torn up and confused and conflicted that he just decided to go live with bears.
christina pazsitzky
See if he could just get some dick.
tom segura
He misread the fucking newsletter and went after real bears instead of big guys like me.
joe rogan
It was crazy how close he got to the animals, like where the fox became his little buddy.
christina pazsitzky
And I remember when the bear poos.
joe rogan
He goes, look, it's so fresh.
He just came out of her butt, it's still warm.
He's like touching her shit.
tom segura
Wasn't the fox called like foxy?
christina pazsitzky
Mrs. Cupcake.
joe rogan
Yeah, the fox is foxy.
tom segura
What was the thing?
joe rogan
Hi, Mr. Chocolate.
tom segura
It also sounded so gay.
Remember when the bear approached him one time?
A bear was approaching him and he was like, fuck you, fuck you.
Or like, get away from me.
unidentified
I love you.
Get the fuck away from me.
christina pazsitzky
I love you.
unidentified
Get the fuck away from me.
joe rogan
Oh, that's right.
tom segura
It was the reverse.
unidentified
I love you.
joe rogan
Get away from me.
He has to be stern with them.
Have to be stern with them.
You don't want to let them get in too close.
Apparently, the death video, where they never got a lens on it, so it's only audio, because they had the cap on, but the camera was running, is seven minutes long.
It took them seven minutes for the bear to eat them.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
tom segura
Yeah, it was him and his girlfriend.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, right, his then-girlfriend.
joe rogan
The girlfriend hit the bear over the head with a frying pan, apparently, a couple times, and the bear was like, bitch?
tom segura
And that was a sick bear, apparently.
joe rogan
It was a sick bear?
tom segura
They found out, like, later on, I remember, you can look it up, that I don't remember if the bear had, like...
Some type of disease, I don't know, rabies or something, where it wasn't like a healthy, normal-functioning bear.
christina pazsitzky
It was hungry.
tom segura
Yeah, but it was because of something else.
That's what I read.
joe rogan
The problem with that is that they didn't really find much of the bear.
Because they shot the bear when they flew over and they saw that the bear had killed these people.
Because apparently a pilot saw the rib cage coming up.
That's what he saw.
And he realized that this bear was eating a person.
He saw clothes, saw a tent, saw a camp.
So he knew that the bear was eating a person.
So they got a guy, you know, one of the rangers, I guess, shot him.
And then when they went back, I think it was like a couple of months later, there was nothing left.
It was like, you know, there was just fucking a couple pieces of bones.
tom segura
I thought they found them in the bear's insides.
joe rogan
I don't know.
They might have.
I mean, they might have processed the bear's guts once they killed him.
It's most likely.
tom segura
And by no means, if you're listening, do not let this deter you from living with bears.
joe rogan
Go for it.
tom segura
It should be fine.
joe rogan
I'm addicted to all these Alaska shows, man.
tom segura
That's really cool.
joe rogan
I watch all these Last Frontier shows, like Alaska, The Last Frontier, and The Yukon Men.
That is crazy living, man.
tom segura
You just went hunting somewhere up north, didn't you?
joe rogan
Montana.
christina pazsitzky
That's pretty cool, right?
unidentified
Oh, Montana's beautiful.
joe rogan
Montana doesn't give a fuck.
We went down the Missouri River into a place called the Badlands, and the Badlands does not give a fuck.
You might as well have gone to the moon.
tom segura
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, you might as well be on the moon.
There's no one there, there's no cell phone signal, you ain't got shit, you got no radio, and you are in what is the bottom of a giant ancient ocean.
It used to be the Great Western Inland Sea during the Jurassic period.
There was dinosaurs and shit roaming through that area.
So the bottom, the ground everywhere is like silt.
It's like that same slippery shit on the bottom of a lake.
So you have mountains that are covered in silt.
They had homesteads out there.
Where they gave people, like, if you lived there, you could claim a giant chunk of land, and as long as you lived on it for a certain amount of time, it would be your land.
Well, they gave these people this land, and they all left.
They all quit.
You can't grow anything on them.
It's like this crazy, silty shit, and there's deer around, but, man, you've got to fucking hunt for days sometimes to kill one.
So you're out there camping and trying to catch these deer and bringing them back to your family at a certain point in time.
Like, look, we've got to get the fuck out of here.
We're going to run out of food.
And so they all did.
They all bailed.
It's just not reliable.
And in the wintertime, it gets way too fucking cold.
It gets so cold that the river freezes.
The river freezes solid.
You gotta cut holes in it and try to get fish out of there.
Bitch!
Good luck trying to feed yourself like that.
So they all bailed.
So that's where we went hunting.
It was fascinating.
unidentified
That's pretty awesome.
joe rogan
It was literally like going to another planet.
It was so humbling.
You know, to live outside like that for five days in that kind of environment is really, really, really humbling.
Because you start to see, first of all, how fragile you are, even just the temperature.
Like it was 12 degrees out when we were sleeping outside.
It's 12 degrees.
So you're bundled up in this sleeping bag and shit and zipped over your head and trying to squeeze yourself to make your body warm.
And it's 12 degrees.
It's 12. And nothing gives a fuck about you.
There's just a bunch of things out there eating other things.
That's all it is.
It's deer eating grass, mountain lions eating deer.
We found mountain lion shit, this big thick rope of shit with fur in it.
It's like, whoa, son.
You know, you're seeing, you know, this is the food chain.
This is this one really harsh ecosystem.
tom segura
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
Well, even that survivor guy, where he goes out, he went to, like, Scotland, and just on the other side of the hill, like, there's people living, right, at the Moors or whatever, on the other side, he tries to spend the night there, where people do live, just out in the wild, and he, you know, he almost freezes his dick off.
It's fucking cold.
joe rogan
Is this the real survivor man, or that other guy?
unidentified
No.
christina pazsitzky
I don't remember which one it was.
joe rogan
Because that West guy, the guy who slept in hotels.
tom segura
There was a guy who slept in hotels that made it seem like he wasn't?
joe rogan
Yeah, you didn't know that?
tom segura
No.
joe rogan
Well, first of all, the real guy is Les Stroud.
Les Stroud is the real guy.
He goes for 10 days now.
Films it all himself.
He's the real deal.
He's legit.
andy stumpf
But that Bear Grylls character...
joe rogan
That dude is apparently...
He's some military guy.
He probably is sort of a survival expert.
But when he was doing that show, he was faking a lot of shit.
Like, we just came upon a SEAL carcass.
Now we can use this for food.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, that's the guy there.
joe rogan
He didn't really come across a SEAL carcass.
They put that thing there.
According to Les, Les says they made Man vs.
Wild because they were always trying to get him to fake shit.
But he wouldn't fake shit.
We had him on the podcast.
He was talking about it.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, cool.
joe rogan
I'll listen to that.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah, so he told me that that's why they got Bear Grylls to do his show.
They were like, we'll show you.
We're going to do the same show.
Do your own show, but we're faking everything.
But meanwhile, everybody found out they faked things, and nobody wants to watch it now.
tom segura
Of course.
joe rogan
I don't want to watch some dude pretending he's sleeping in the jungle, or is he getting helicoptered into a four-star hotel in the disco at night, drinking margaritas.
tom segura
He's putting back there in the morning, and he's like, oh, what a night.
joe rogan
Getting massaged at a spa.
He's getting his feet massaged.
unidentified
Well, a night in the jungle is not pleasant.
But thankfully, I can drink my own piss to stay hydrated.
Don't drink ocean water, but drink plenty of urine.
christina pazsitzky
I love that shit, though.
I love all that stuff.
joe rogan
I love the real shit.
I can't watch the Bear Grylls show.
As soon as I found out that they were manufacturing scenarios...
I understand what they're saying.
They're saying he's showing you how you would survive.
If you came across this.
So let's just make this happen and have him deal with it.
But he did a lot of shit that was like you would never do.
Like really dangerous, risky shit.
Like jumping off of things.
Like why is he jumping off of this?
Like sliding down the sides of mountains.
Like why are you doing it like this?
This seems dangerous.
Go sliding into an ice cave.
Like why?
There's nothing in there for you.
Don't go in that ice cave.
christina pazsitzky
Stop it!
joe rogan
Jesus Christ, what are you doing there?
Avoid that cave!
Just a crazy asshole.
unidentified
Totally.
joe rogan
But that's what they want you to do.
If you tried to make a Tom and Christina, your mom's house reality show, do you know how much fucking bullshit you'd have to deal with?
No.
Oh, for sure.
First of all, because you guys don't have a big enough name to carry it, just based on that, so they're going to have to promote it.
So they're going to have to say, well, you know, Tom, look, I know you're a well-known stand-up comedian.
The world will stand-up comedy, but people don't know you as an actor, okay?
So we're going to need some help with this.
You're going to need to help us along with this.
We're going to get your show going.
tom segura
What do I need to do?
christina pazsitzky
What's our show, Joe?
joe rogan
It's not all reality.
What is reality?
We're going to make some things happen and you just do your thing.
When the thing is really happening, we're just making it happen.
You're like, oh, yeah, okay, sure.
So next thing you know, you guys are in marriage counseling.
You're having a fake argument.
tom segura
There's a walrus in the backyard.
How are you going to deal with it?
joe rogan
You lost your redneck.
I love it.
unidentified
You lost your redneck.
tom segura
I'd love to make that show if you're proposing.
joe rogan
No.
I'm telling you don't do it.
I'm trying to tell you not to sell out.
I'm selling.
If you're buying, I'm selling.
tom segura
No, definitely not.
unidentified
No way.
joe rogan
Well, that's the thing about you guys having this podcast.
Your podcast is perfect because nobody tells you what to do.
Like all podcasts.
It's the best.
They really represent what the fuck you're thinking.
tom segura
Yeah, totally.
joe rogan
You don't lose the message in the producers or network notes or any of that shit.
tom segura
Yeah, it's really what you want it to be.
And that's what's cool about the different circle of podcasts, especially ones that feel like they're sprung off from people that you're associated with, is that each is a representation of everybody's personality and who they are.
Skeptic Tank with Ari is...
It's so...
You're getting...
That's who Ari is, and that's what he wants the show to be.
Yes.
And, you know, Joey Diaz is the same way.
And then...
joe rogan
Church of what's happening now.
tom segura
Absolutely.
And then I just did...
joe rogan
Duncan Trussell family.
tom segura
Absolutely.
Duncan is...
That's a total Duncan experience.
And you're getting to know the guy.
And then Burt just came out with a podcast.
joe rogan
Yeah, Burtcast.
tom segura
Burtcast.
I did the first episode.
I should say I just sat there and laughed on the first episode because it was in Burt's...
At Burt's place...
And he had Joey Diaz and his father and me in this room and Bert, as you know, he's steering the ship.
It's what he wants it to be.
Same thing.
But you just sit there listening to Diaz and Mr. Kreischer.
And it's the fucking funniest thing.
I mean, I was crying.
I was in tears.
It was so funny.
And...
What we do in your mom's house, it's exactly what we want the show to be.
That's the most fun about it.
joe rogan
We're so lucky right now, right?
Don't you feel that?
christina pazsitzky
This is the best time to be a stand-up comic because you don't need the big networks now.
If you want to do your fucking hour, you don't need to go through Comedy Central.
If you want to talk to your audience, you can reach them directly through a podcast.
They can download it any time, a day or night.
It's the best thing.
joe rogan
And what's really cool about this is that people that get into a position where people are paying attention to, then they can tell you about some other cool shit.
Sort of like retweeting.
I love retweeting because people send me some really fucking cool articles and I'll retweet those and a lot of it is really interesting shit.
And there's no way you're going to accumulate all that crap on your own.
You need some help out there.
And that's one of the cool things about having a successful podcast is your podcast now has a big following.
You could tell them, hey, watch Burt Kreischer's podcast.
Listen to Burt Kreischer's podcast.
And now everybody goes, oh, awesome.
And then they go, wow, I like the way Tommy thinks.
Tommy makes me laugh.
Christina makes me laugh.
They're saying that this is a great podcast.
I'll go check it out.
And then it branches off, and they can do that, and the next person, and Ari can introduce a new one.
tom segura
Absolutely.
joe rogan
That's the coolest thing about it.
We know so many people that are really fucking funny, but...
In this day and age, before podcasting, it was really hard to get your name out there, just as a stand-up.
You had to have some TV credits in order to be in a club, and even then, it takes a long time for people to take enough chances on you, and the word of mouth, and returning to a place over and over again.
To build up markets, that's a long, hard road.
But now all they have to do is be funny.
tom segura
And podcasting, too.
This was kind of an experiment for me.
I spoke to you about it.
I also spoke to Bill Burr, Al Madrigal, about putting out an album on my own.
And you guys, I'm saying separately, all encouraged me to do that.
And I did it on my own, put it out.
But podcasting is...
The thing that got really an audience for it.
I put it out there and the whole success of doing this thing on my own where you feel kind of like you're an entrepreneur.
I'm not going to go the label route.
I'm just going to record it and I'm going to just do it on my own and putting it out there and then seeing if it works.
But seeing that the success is basically because of the audience we built from doing podcasts.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a crazy connection, too.
And don't you feel kind of obligated to be in communication with these people?
Absolutely.
And keep making more content for them.
tom segura
Absolutely.
christina pazsitzky
And it's so cool when the stand-up now, I think the last time I saw you I was like, hey, my audience isn't there yet.
They're coming now.
And it makes such a difference when I look out and I can see that they know who I am and I recognize them and I see that we have this wonderful connection and to talk to the people after and you're like, this is awesome!
Like, this is what I've wanted for so long.
joe rogan
Yeah, we brought Brian on stage in Austin and they went fucking apeshit.
Brian got like a standing ovation going on stage in Austin.
unidentified
And did you ever watch that interview Alex Jones did of us?
That was pretty cool.
joe rogan
Yeah, it was good.
tom segura
It was really cool.
unidentified
It was cool, yeah.
joe rogan
Alex Jones came back and he may or may not have gotten high.
tom segura
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
May or may not.
tom segura
I did Brian's, like, little Death Squad tour in Ohio a couple months ago, right?
A month ago?
unidentified
Yeah.
tom segura
And, holy shit, when you were brought on stage...
The place went fucking crazy.
joe rogan
It's a completely different world now because of podcasts.
You can literally make people famous in the real world.
They walk around.
It's interesting.
christina pazsitzky
It's cool.
joe rogan
But it's like everything that comedy networks never were.
Comedy networks were never really comedians networking.
This is like a real comedy network.
tom segura
Exactly.
joe rogan
Because all of us, it's like, you know, if I tell you, go listen to Joey Diaz's CD, and I'm crying and laughing when I tell you that, you can trust me.
Go listen to that shit.
You know what I mean?
It's like, we know what Ari's tastes are like.
We know what Duncan's tastes are like.
tom segura
Yeah.
You get to know them.
joe rogan
It's a rare time, man.
There's never been a moment like this for entertainers.
tom segura
No.
joe rogan
Where you can just sort of do your own thing.
tom segura
You're so in connection with the audience that wants to be with you.
You're connected to them.
Before, that would take a fucking pen and a pad and a letter.
unidentified
Jesus!
tom segura
You know what I mean?
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
And they get to know the real you, which is an interesting facet of celebrity now, I think.
And I don't know if it...
It seems like in the past, celebrities had to have two lives.
Like, there's your public sphere and your private...
And now those two spheres are merging, and they almost have to because of this technology.
tom segura
They have access to the real you.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, and it's kind of cool.
I mean, obviously there's drawbacks to that as well.
joe rogan
If you're a douchebag.
christina pazsitzky
If you're a douchebag.
joe rogan
They're going to know who you really are.
christina pazsitzky
Correct, yeah.
unidentified
Yeah, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
But I think that's ultimately where the whole world is headed.
The no secrets world.
christina pazsitzky
I agree.
And no shame world.
joe rogan
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
Because everything...
This generation's growing up in public.
Not like we did.
There's no notion anymore of like, keep that photograph in your locker.
Like, now put the photograph on Facebook.
Everyone's going to see your titties.
Everybody's going to see everything.
unidentified
Ooh-ooh!
Ooh-ooh!
See them titties.
joe rogan
Put them titties in my face, girl.
Yeah, it's these kids today, too.
If you stop and think about how silly you were when you were 17. Oh, my God.
Can you imagine how many pictures of your dick would be online?
christina pazsitzky
Oh, my God.
joe rogan
There would be chapters.
There would be gigabytes of my dick.
unidentified
Torrents.
There would be torrents of your dick.
joe rogan
My dick would be everywhere.
I would be famous for being the dumbest kid to play with my dick.
And send it in emails.
I would just upload it everywhere.
I would dick roll everybody instead of Rick roll.
I would release videos.
The video would start out with some music and then I would jump out with my dick.
tom segura
And funny ones, too, though, right?
With sunglasses on your dick and your dick smoking a cigarette.
joe rogan
I would do whatever I could to get you to look at my dick.
If I had access to that when I was 17, anonymous access, you'd all be seeing my dick.
This is a fact.
I'd get it out there.
christina pazsitzky
So great.
joe rogan
Absolutely.
Yeah, imagine these poor kids today.
Anything they do, someone photoshopped, makes a photoshop of them.
Just hundreds of photoshops of me with a woman's body, with a dude banging me.
There's a lot of them.
unidentified
I did half of them.
Remember the real dolls I made of you? - Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
Yeah.
That's hilarious, man.
Photoshop is amazing.
What you can do and not do.
Sometimes you have to look at a picture and go, shop!
Someone's being real subtle.
tom segura
Fucking Mitt Romney's mom jeans photo.
christina pazsitzky
So good.
tom segura
That's Photoshop.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's amazing.
tom segura
But you look at it and you're like, those jeans are really high on me.
You're not sure.
christina pazsitzky
So high and so tight.
joe rogan
And they raised him up just enough to make it questionable.
tom segura
It's perfect.
I did this political show for the web, for Comedy Central.
I was a writer on it that Kyle Kinane hosted earlier this year, all leading up to the election.
And the whole thing, one of the episodes, we were like, gotta use this photo of Mitt Romney.
And we had people doing research just to make sure, like, is this photoshopped?
Because it's one of those, you're like, this is so well done.
You're like, no, that's not real.
unidentified
But people were like, lawyers were like, is this really real?
christina pazsitzky
Lawyers.
joe rogan
I remember when the De La Hoya photos came out of him wearing women's clothes.
And he had experts examine them and show proof that they had been doctored.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
And then later he came out and said, alright, this is me.
unidentified
I got doing coke and dressed up like a chick.
christina pazsitzky
That's great.
unidentified
That's awesome.
joe rogan
He didn't want to come clean with that.
tom segura
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
I like him even more.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, I like that he probably got that monkey off his back.
They probably fucked with him for a long time.
Plus, I'm sure...
tom segura
I like panties.
What's up?
joe rogan
That Russian chick, if she's still alive, she probably still tortures him with that.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
He's probably scared.
One day she's going to do interviews and shit and he's not going to be able to pay her off anymore.
tom segura
Let's see the ball kicking video.
Let's see that one.
Take it back home.
joe rogan
Yeah, what the fuck, man?
unidentified
Ball kicks.
tom segura
Too much.
Too much.
joe rogan
Poor Oscar.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
Do you think you like to get ball kicked?
tom segura
Probably.
joe rogan
Just like he's beating so many dudes' asses, he wanted shit to beat his ass.
unidentified
Sure.
There you go.
joe rogan
Dressed up like a woman.
unidentified
Makes sense.
joe rogan
You got tired of being like super macho man and just wanted to wear a dress and shit.
christina pazsitzky
Well, they say the majority of dudes that are into S&M are being submissive or lawyers and high-powered people.
unidentified
Mmm.
christina pazsitzky
Who have to be in control in their daily lives, and then they like a good ball kicking.
joe rogan
That makes sense.
unidentified
Yeah.
tom segura
When I control everything else, I tell people what to do all the time.
christina pazsitzky
Wear a diaper.
Treat me like a baby.
tom segura
Throw pies at me.
christina pazsitzky
Change me.
tom segura
Call me Daisy.
joe rogan
How can we save those people, folks?
Is there anything we could do?
Do we just accept the fact that they're just a part of the spectrum of life?
tom segura
I think you have to.
That or Alphabrain?
One of the two is going to work.
That's not going to help.
joe rogan
Alphabrain and Shroom Tech together, maybe he has a chance if he immediately starts pill sprints today.
tom segura
No, they're definitely...
It definitely is part of the spectrum.
That's the crazy thing, is knowing that, like, you know, a dude...
christina pazsitzky
It's all normal.
tom segura
That's all on there, man.
unidentified
Everybody...
joe rogan
Yeah, what the fuck, man?
unidentified
I know.
joe rogan
What a wacky spectrum.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
The spectrum of human beings, you know?
tom segura
And behavior, it's mind-boggling.
Some dudes like to eat people.
You know what I mean?
That's out there.
joe rogan
That guy that killed his gay lover recently and chopped up his ass on camera and was eating chunks of his ass.
On camera!
unidentified
If he only had battle ropes.
joe rogan
Yeah, if that guy on the bottom has some jiu-jitsu, maybe he'll follow the position.
And get to the top, the mount, take the knife away from him.
Okay, now you're doing better.
What a shitty way to die.
Guy kills you, fucks you, and then eats your ass on TV. He's slicing it up.
christina pazsitzky
That is a bad way.
tom segura
Christ.
joe rogan
What the fuck is with people wanting to eat people?
What are you proving?
christina pazsitzky
I would try it, though.
I'd taste it.
joe rogan
If you were dying of starvation?
christina pazsitzky
Yes.
joe rogan
What race do you think would be the most delicious?
christina pazsitzky
Okay, let's talk about this.
joe rogan
She thought about it.
christina pazsitzky
Well, let's see.
Okay, because I know in sushi I like fatty tuna the most because it's a nice fatty piece.
So white people right now are pretty fatty.
White Americans.
I'm going to go corn-fed Iowa woman in the airport that looks like Sam Kinison, fat lady.
joe rogan
I think that would be good, but the fattiness would be more like a pork, I think.
tom segura
It's like pork belly.
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't think it'd be like tuna at all.
christina pazsitzky
Like not the fatty tuna?
joe rogan
Well, even when tunas are slightly fatty, like the bottom area, that's lean as fuck compared to almost every other organism on the planet.
tom segura
Still pretty muscular.
joe rogan
Yeah, you want to look at a human?
Humans are gross.
christina pazsitzky
A pork rind?
I like pork rinds.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
No, more like a roast.
christina pazsitzky
Okay.
joe rogan
Like a fat, sloppy pork roast where the meat's just falling off because it's all made out of Cheetos and shit.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
The only nutrition that's had is soda.
tom segura
I'll take a kind of fat black eye, you know?
joe rogan
Oh.
Exotic.
With black beans and rice.
unidentified
Exotic.
joe rogan
Perhaps some hot sauce.
tom segura
I think, you know, the black eyes are pretty, like, naturally muscular, so I take one that's kind of fat, so I get a nice mixture of, like, it's like a ribeye.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I get marbled.
tom segura
Marbled.
joe rogan
Marbled, but not crazy.
Right.
Yeah, and probably it's the darker meat too.
It's probably more nutritious.
unidentified
I'd go Indian because it's already seasoned.
joe rogan
That's a good point.
That's a very good point.
christina pazsitzky
But not a lot of meat on those.
Not a lot of meat on their own.
joe rogan
With all that curry, they say that pineapple flavors your loads.
I'm sure curry would flavor your rump.
unidentified
That's right.
tom segura
Let's do it.
unidentified
Curry and armpit.
joe rogan
Yeah, you got curry in your fats.
Well, that's the case with bears.
With bears, you want to eat a bear that gets shot after eats a lot of blueberries.
The bears, if you eat bears, apparently it's some of the most delicious meat you can have.
tom segura
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, because it literally changes the way their flesh tastes.
And they're fat.
Their fat has all this blueberry in the fat.
unidentified
Oh, that's delicious.
joe rogan
It's really nutty.
tom segura
Let's do a trip.
joe rogan
Let's go kill a bear.
christina pazsitzky
What about you, Joe?
What's your racial choice?
unidentified
It's obvious.
joe rogan
Probably Asians.
unidentified
It's obvious?
christina pazsitzky
How come?
unidentified
I just know Joe's type.
He's either Brazilian or Asians.
joe rogan
Probably would have like, Asians aren't known for being the most muscular.
Probably get a good cut.
Did you ever hear about that one guy from Japan who murdered a girl, cooked her and ate her and then got off Like on some insanity case.
He was only incarcerated for a small amount of time.
tom segura
Did he keep some of her for a long time?
Like in a closet or something?
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't know.
That's a good question.
Something along the line.
I forget the guy's name, but he was famous for it.
christina pazsitzky
Yoshi Obayashi.
joe rogan
How dare you?
That's not true.
That guy, I'll pull it up.
tom segura
Well, I mean, give the guy a break, man.
Like, so he had a bad, you know, did a bad thing.
christina pazsitzky
Well, she probably did something wrong, right?
tom segura
She probably said some shit she shouldn't have said.
joe rogan
Yeah, she's talked a lot of shit.
christina pazsitzky
Talked during the football game.
joe rogan
This is his name, Isai Sagawa.
Yeah, it's pretty fucking crazy.
And apparently this dude has described openly, in 1981 he murdered and cannibalized a Dutch woman named Rene Hartevelt, and after his release he became a minor celebrity in Japan making a living through public interest in his crime.
Wow.
He served time in a French jail.
Oh, the French let him out.
Huh.
tom segura
How long did he serve?
joe rogan
Like, listen, he has suffered enough.
All he did is eat one American.
Yeah.
He is under five feet tall, and he felt like he was weak and inadequate, and he ate her because he wanted to absorb her energy.
christina pazsitzky
That's a good reason.
joe rogan
He fainted at the shock of shooting her, but awoke with the realization that he had to carry out his desire to eat her.
He did so beginning with her buttocks and thighs after having sex with her corpse.
In interviews, he noted his surprise that the corn-colored nature of human fat.
For two days, Sagawa ate various parts of her body.
He described the meat as soft and odorless, like tuna.
unidentified
Hmm.
Wow.
joe rogan
That shit's crazy.
You fucking nailed it.
christina pazsitzky
Nailed that flavor.
joe rogan
You're a natural cannibal.
unidentified
Thank you.
joe rogan
I think this is an in-shaped girl, though.
unidentified
There you go.
joe rogan
I think this wasn't a fatty.
christina pazsitzky
She wasn't a fatty.
joe rogan
I don't think he was eating someone for their pork-like deliciousness.
Sam Kinison-like deliciousness.
He then attempted to dump the mutilated body in a remote lake, but was seen in the act and later arrested by the French police, who found parts of the deceased still in his refrigerator.
Oh my god.
His wealthy father provided a top lawyer for his defense, and after being held for two years without trial in a French jail, the blah blah blah found him legally insane and unfit to stand trial and ordered him to be held indefinitely in a mental institution.
christina pazsitzky
Good call.
Wow.
tom segura
How long did he...
He spent over three months there, and then he went home.
joe rogan
Yeah, how did they let him out?
Jesus Christ.
Okay, the Japanese authorities found it legally impossible to hold him because the French government refused to release court documents, which remain a secret to Japan, claiming that the case was already dropped in France.
So as a result...
unidentified
Wow!
joe rogan
They extradited him to Japan, and when they let him in Japan, Japan just let him go.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, jeez.
tom segura
It's funny how that always happens when somebody from a country gets caught for something in another country.
There's always this irrational, we just want him, and don't punish him.
joe rogan
Listen to how crazy this is.
Upon his arrival in Japan, he was immediately taken to the Matsuzawa Hospital, where examining psychologists all found him to be sane, stating that sexual perversion was the sole motivation for the murder.
tom segura
That sounds like a sadistic, evil motherfucker then, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
However, the Japanese authorities found it legally impossible to hold him because the French government refused to release the documents.
So they said that this guy was just depraved.
He was totally saying depraved and just sexual perversion was the reason why I killed this chick.
He kills one, and then he makes a living as a minor celebrity.
He's invited as a guest speaker on TV shows and shit.
He pretends to eat people.
He mocks biting people.
tom segura
That's like if Ted Bundy was doing talk shows.
joe rogan
He wrote books about the murder.
He wrote books about it, describing it in great detail.
unidentified
Wow.
tom segura
Jesus Christ, man.
joe rogan
This is incredible.
Japanese are so different.
christina pazsitzky
I know.
joe rogan
That culture is...
Brian, out of all the places that we've ever been to, wasn't that the one that most felt like we were on another planet?
unidentified
Oh, yeah, it was great.
I can't wait to go back.
joe rogan
But wasn't it like...
unidentified
Taiwan.
It really felt...
joe rogan
It really felt like you were in another planet.
It's like you're in Blade Runner or something.
tom segura
Really?
unidentified
They just got hit again with an earthquake.
joe rogan
7.2, yeah.
tom segura
I didn't even know that.
joe rogan
It's looking ugly.
It's looking ugly for the Japanese.
tom segura
That sucks.
I'm dying to visit.
I really want to take a trip one day.
joe rogan
Tough spot, man.
Being on an island that's got regular volcanic and earthquake activity like that, and after that big tsunami, the reality of that all setting in, that's a tough spot to live.
It's not that big either.
How big is it?
It's smaller than Texas, right?
unidentified
It must be.
tom segura
I think it's an unbelievable amount of people too.
Especially Tokyo.
joe rogan
Holy shit.
And it's such a modern city too.
It's really interesting.
unidentified
I like that.
joe rogan
Their buildings.
I love their writing.
Seeing their writing all illuminated and shit.
justin wren
It really does look like some alien shit.
tom segura
It's a fascinating culture.
joe rogan
They're not so good though.
You gotta get out of here?
unidentified
Yeah, I gotta get out of here.
joe rogan
Powerful Brian Redband is out of here, ladies and gentlemen.
He's got a bolt.
And you guys gotta leave too, right?
unidentified
Yeah, we gotta go.
joe rogan
Let's just wrap this bitch up.
If anybody wants to follow Christina Pozycki all up in this bitch, you can follow her at Christina with a C. Not one of those freaks that spells it with a K. Yeah, a C-H. C-H Christina P on Twitter.
And of course, Tom Segar is Tom.
unidentified
S-E-G-U-R-A. Holla at your boy.
I have the CDs of both of these guys.
christina pazsitzky
Tommy's new CD is White Girls with Cornrows.
It's amazing.
joe rogan
It is amazing.
Tommy, you've been killing it on the road.
We've been talking about it on the podcast.
I keep hearing it over and over again.
People that tell me they went to your shows, I get messages on Twitter, like, holy shit, Tom killed it.
He's fucking awesome.
tom segura
They love you.
unidentified
That's awesome.
tom segura
Thank you.
joe rogan
You're getting your due, man.
tom segura
Thank you for all the Joe Rogan fans that I get to meet that come to shows are phenomenal.
Thank you for supporting.
It's really awesome.
joe rogan
Well, I've been saying this for a while, man.
You're one of the most unappreciated stand-ups in the country right now.
I really believe that.
tom segura
Nice guy, man.
unidentified
It's true.
joe rogan
I really believe that.
You're one of the top guys.
Alright, that's it for the podcast, you dirty fucks.
tom segura
Thanks for having us.
christina pazsitzky
Thank you, Joe.
joe rogan
Thanks for being on.
Thanks for having us.
Thanks to Ting.
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And go fuck yourself.
But...
But know this.
It's good.
It's good to go fuck yourself.
It's good.
Life is good.
It's good to fuck.
It's good to do everything.
Just do it all with love, you dirty fucks.
And we will see you tomorrow.
Tomorrow with Mix Master Mike of the Beastie Boys.
unidentified
And Russell Peters.
joe rogan
And powerful Russell Peters.
Together?
Yes.
And then Wednesday, the great Dom Irera will join us.
And Sunday, Dennis McKenna, the brother of Terrence McKenna, will regale us with stories of psychedelic adventures.
And we'll be promoting his new book.
So, alright.
Thank you everybody for tuning in and listening and thanks for all the positive messages and all the love out there.
The amount of happy and positive people that I run into online and in real life as opposed to not happy people is fucking staggering.
It's the most incredible group of people that we run into at these shows and online.
It's amazing.
I don't know what we did to deserve it, but thank you very much and know this.
We appreciate the shit out of it, and we're never going to forget, and we're never going to stop doing this.
All right, so we'll see you soon.
unidentified
Bye.
joe rogan
Go fuck yourself.
Suck it.
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