Eddie Bravo joins Joe Rogan to debate whether audiobooks count as reading, with Rogan praising nootropics like Alpha Brain and Shroom Tech Sport—used daily by Bravo—for cognitive gains while warning they won’t magically enhance intelligence. They contrast KISS’s late-70s/early-80s comeback with modern viral fame, then pivot to cocaine’s unnatural extraction, Rogan’s wild theories on human origins (wolf descendants? aliens?), and the 2012 Nibiru panic, dismissed as pseudoscience. Rogan’s skepticism clashes with his concerns over LHC experiments and government hypocrisy, like Montana’s 80-year sentence for a legal medical marijuana business, while Bravo tangents into 9/11 conspiracy theories—Rogan hints at possible financial motives tied to Russian assets and pre-attack Pentagon investigations. The episode ends with Rogan’s take on Texas’s political gridlock and the dangers of misidentifying wild mushrooms, underscoring how fringe ideas and systemic flaws collide in culture and science. [Automatically generated summary]
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And Audible.com has this thing that I've been raving about because it's one of the coolest ideas that I've ever heard in technology when it comes to audio books and audio podcasts.
What they've done is...
They've created something that's an app for the Kindle Fire, and it really is worth getting it just for this.
It's an amazing application.
What it does is it allows you, if you're a book reader, I have a Kindle.
And I also have a Nook, and they're both great.
But the difference between this Kindle Fire thing is you can be reading the book, and when you're going to bed at night, you can shut it off, and it will sync with your smartphone, and then when you get in your car, you hear the audio version of the book.
It's fucking incredible.
And it's done by professional actors.
So it's like a really good audio companion book to the original book that you can...
So you can either read it or listen to it, which is fucking brilliant.
I think that's like one of the coolest inventions I've ever heard of.
I definitely think there's something for reading as opposed to watching TV. Like, I find that people who read more than they watch TV, generally they have more interesting shit to talk about.
There's a lot of shit you can listen to at audible.com.
You can listen to lectures and stand-up comedy and podcasts.
They have everything.
What's the matter?
Oh, I thought you said something.
Anyway, Kindle is an awesome tool, and this WhisperSync that links up with Audible.com is just brilliant.
It's just unbelievable.
It's such a great application.
Audible.com is offering, if you go to Audible.com forward slash Joe, you can get one free audio book and 30 days free of service from Audible.
It's really an excellent service and a big supporter of podcasts.
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If you haven't been to Onnit in a while, we used to just sell vitamins and nutrients, which we still do, but we sell a lot of other cool shit too.
What we started doing is just all the shit that we find out about that's really good, we just start selling it like blenders.
I would always talk about kale shakes because I drink them every morning.
It's one of the best things I've ever done as far as like health to give me energy.
I feel fucking great when I have these big kale shakes and just filled with nutrients and vitamins.
It just really feels good.
Like I feel physically better.
There's no doubt about it.
There's garlic in it and ginger in it.
So we just started selling these blenders.
We sell these Blendtec blenders.
They're fucking badass.
I had a Vitamix before that.
Pretty fucking good, too.
The difference is the Blendtec really makes it like almost everything turns it really liquidy, whereas the Vitamix, there's a little more chewy to it.
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We sell the Blendtecs.
We also sell kettlebells now and battle ropes.
Kettlebells and battle ropes, have you ever seen like...
Battle rapes.
Have you ever seen any of those countdown to UFC shows where guys are doing strength and conditioning?
A lot of times you see them whipping these big, heavy marine ropes.
They look like ropes that you would use to tie up boats.
That's actually exactly what they are.
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We're also selling the best supplements we can find, the best things we can sell you, anything that we find that we find personally beneficial.
A lot of these things are very controversial, especially the idea of nootropics, which are vitamins and nutrients that you take to enhance brain function.
And there's a lot of debate on that, man.
There's a lot of people that don't believe in it.
There's a lot of people that try it and say they don't experience anything.
But every single aspect of alpha brain, all the different ingredients, have been closely studied by people for years.
There's actually a whole page of the science behind it.
We have altered and improved the formula now.
There was people that were having like issues with choline.
It's a very strong nootropic and it really does, in my opinion, dramatically affect cognitive function.
I think that you just need a certain amount of nutrients to get shit done and they have isolated the best nutrients for optimum use of the mind and it's very controversial and because of that we offer 30 pills, the first 30 pills you order with any of the supplements, you get a 100% money back guarantee.
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The reason behind that is two-fold.
One, because nobody's trying to rip you off.
If I didn't believe in this shit, as Eddie Bravo yawns, damn, I'm doing one of my best commercials ever, and you yawn.
I got in a car accident and I got in a car accident with this girl that I was dating and she was like super melodramatic, man.
She was hilarious.
But when this old dude ran a light and hit us and I had to take my shit out of my car because I couldn't drive my car and in my car I had a Whitesnake cassette.
And she picked it up and she goes, you have to throw this out.
So I didn't allow myself to get into other bands, to tell you the truth, for a while.
while from the age of 8 to 13 it was just kiss i only could afford one band so i have to pretend like i only liked one band my brother could own everybody all my friends could only afford one band so my brother was into van halen uh you know the eric across the street was into rush uh then this guy was into the police you know and then we just borrowed each other's shit but the band that you were in charge of that was your baby You know what I mean?
That movie is what got me into KISS because before that movie, the general consensus among kids at school was that KISS, like, because their older brothers were telling them is KISS is for homos, you know what I mean?
So I remember being at school the night it was supposed to be on, being at school, and talking to my friends saying, are you going to watch that Kiss movie?
They're like, no way!
Kiss is for fags!
Eight-year-olds were saying that.
Isn't that crazy?
Yeah, it was crazy.
And I was pretending like I didn't like Kiss either, because my stepdad was into classic rock, and I would...
I would say like Ted Nugent or something.
You know what I mean?
I'm into that.
I wasn't into Kiss.
But we were all excited to see that Kiss movie.
Kids didn't have respect.
That was 1978. They didn't have respect for Kiss.
That's how they were going down.
They were just too commercialized.
That was Kiss ice cream, Kiss bubble gum, Kiss pencils.
People have taken all of his in-between stuff and brought it to one CD. I forget the guys who did it, but they sent it to me and it's fucking hilarious.
The thing about Kiss, though, that they've, No one has ever done.
No one has ever done, because they went to superstardom, then they went to MC Hammer status, Vanilla Ice status, and then they came back and did it all over again with the same members.
They got Ace and Peter back, who ended up getting kicked out for being drunks and cokeheads in the late 70s.
In the height of it, they kicked out the drummer, they kicked out the guitar player, got him replaced.
But when they did the reunion tour, 15 years later, 20 years later, whatever the fuck it was, they got Ace and Peter back, and then they blew up again!
What you're describing is when I'm driving to go teach class.
When I'm driving to teach class, I just took my glaucoma medication.
And then I find just the best song that I like, a song that I could put on repeat, and I crank it really loud, and I'm thinking about training jujitsu.
I'm like, I'm driving, and I'm gonna go train some jujitsu, and all my boys that I love are gonna be right there, and we're all gonna work together.
And when I get in that zone, and I'm listening to an amazing song, It really is like a meditative state, like a waking meditative state where you feel connected to the universe, man.
Yeah, and you got some love that you're going to, you're driving to, and you got people just driving from San Diego, people driving from Costa Mesa just to train.
That's when I think about that and how amazing that is, man, and how Much love I'm gonna have at my gym, man.
You know, I wonder if it can be measured, like the good feeling that you get when you hear a badass fucking song.
Like, for me, it's like, I know this song gets worn out for a lot of people, but for me, The first few chords of Sweet Home Alabama, I always go, fuck yeah.
I love that goddamn song.
I don't give a fuck if they overplay that stupid song.
You can overplay that shit forever.
That still is one of my all-time favorite songs.
If I'm in the car and it's a nice day and that song comes on, I'm like, oh shit.
I'll turn that shit up right when he says to.
Turner Jet.
It's just that feeling though, I wonder if it could be measured.
I wonder if you could put like electrodes on your head and find out what's firing up when you really love to hear a good song.
They should do that.
They should get people high and make them listen to awesome music.
And just find out what happens.
And then in between that awesome music, Throw in some bullshit, some really whack-ass, terrible fucking music.
Some, like, really bad Christian rock or something.
There's a study, and they studied freestyle rappers, and...
They put some electrodes on their brain.
I'm not sure how it really worked, but as they were...
They had them freestyle some stuff, and then I think they had them say some lyrics that they knew before and see the difference in how the brain works when you're freestyling and how the brain works when you're just repeating stuff.
Something like that, I could be wrong, but the overall...
Were you just going to puke right there?
The overall result of that was that Freestyle rappers are quicker thinkers.
Kevin, on Perera's show today, somebody made a hilarious video game.
This is a real video game based on an episode of the podcast we did with Bobcat, and based on the dolphin sensation and stuff like that.
You're going to freak out, and if you want to be an investor, me and Kevin are going to invest in this game and try to actually have this game be a huge game.
But yeah, it's hard to fucking make a good movie, dude, I think.
I think you've got too many people involved.
I think when you got some bad motherfucker like James Cameron that can just totally take the reins, that's how you get, like, an avatar.
You gotta have some, like, real strong personality behind it.
That's why, like, it's always important, like, Francis Ford Coppola's this or that, because I think there's so many people involved in poking and prodding and wanting this and putting in that.
I think making a movie must be just a fucking tremendous nightmare.
And working with all those people and hoping they work together.
Just recently I saw Guns N' Roses behind the scenes, behind the music, Rocky Mentri, and I saw the Quiet Riot one.
You gotta see the Quiet Riot one.
You gotta see...
It's the VH1 behind the scenes and the Guns N' Roses one.
Those guys...
The whole documentary was about how much partying they were doing and how much drinking and it was driving them insane and how much coke they were doing.
And drinking two-fifths of Jack every goddamn night.
Like Duff from Guns N' Roses is so fucked up.
He couldn't even talk anymore.
They're super rich, they're huge, and they're just drinking and doing so much coke, they're out of their fucking minds.
It's almost like they feel...
It's almost like you understand Axl.
Axl's like the dick.
But when you watch the rockumentary, he's hanging out with these drunk dudes all the time.
There's certain dudes that you meet, and they're the funniest conversations I ever have with clueless folks, are the people that tell me that if they fought MMA, they would never lose.
Because it's just their mentality.
Because of my mentality.
But how many times have you talked to that guy?
That guy, there's been, there's many, many of those guys out there, and you drift into them like icebergs, like you'd be backstage at the UFC, and you don't even realize you're talking to a crazy person until they say something like that.
Like, you know, I mean, these guys are all tough and everything, but I tell you, my mentality, I can't lose.
What the fuck?
Yeah, you know what, man?
Guys like me don't get in there.
That's the difference.
Guys like me, with my mentality, you know, they get in there, they never stop.
I usually get the guys that say that, you know, they don't do MMA, they don't train, but if anything went down, they would kick them in the knee.
I'm like, really?
How often are you practicing this kick?
How many days a week?
How long?
I mean, if he was actually three days a week, was sitting in front of a bag and just kicking to the knee 45 minutes a day, three days a week, I might believe he's on to something.
Like, damn, maybe he's got this crazy kick to the knee.
If you didn't know how to fight and you ran into some Muay Thai guy for whatever reason, he just decided to only kick your legs out from India and just kick your legs until you're done.
I think there's quite a few places that can grow it, but I think it's a climate thing.
But that doesn't make sense to me because then why can't people grow it in greenhouses?
And you never hear about cocaine busts where they bust them with cocoa plants.
So I don't know.
I'm not a botanist.
I don't understand what the fuck's wrong.
But it seems like it would...
It doesn't make any sense that you have to get it all from South America unless it's the only place where it grows.
That's the only thing that makes sense to me.
And I remember there was some controversy about the Egyptian mummies.
One of the coolest things they found was evidence of cocaine on one of the mummies when they did this real thorough analysis of it.
And that could be one of two things.
It means either someone had made it all the way to South America and brought back cocaine.
That is one possibility.
Or that someone from South America got in a boat and came all the way to Egypt and sold them cocaine or It was some kind of a false positive because there was some other substance that could mirror that.
When you're dealing with, you know, someone who's been dead for 5,000 fucking years, I'm sure there's a lot of guesswork involved in the analysis of it.
But they were thinking that maybe the Egyptian had got a hold of some eight balls.
He got upset at me when I retweeted the thing about Ancient Aliens Debunked.
He was upset.
I'm like, look, this is how I looked at it.
You cannot be upset when someone points out mistakes.
You can't shoot the messenger.
And he was like, I didn't know you supported Christians.
The guy's a fundamentalist Christian.
And I was like...
Okay, look, man, I like you a lot, and I like the whole subject of aliens a lot, but that guy who made that video pointed out a lot of shit that was inaccurate.
And that's important.
It's important to get shit accurate.
It's important to not make speculations based on faulty evidence.
And when you've got a television show, you have a certain amount of responsibility.
So, in my opinion, instead of being upset at that guy, he should have been upset that they put something out that was inaccurate.
But that doesn't discount the possibility of That we could have been visited by ancient aliens.
That's where, everybody wants to take one camp or another.
And this debunker guy, he's like convinced.
I used to believe that too, but now I think it's been thoroughly debunked.
Nothing's been debunked.
There's one monkey.
Okay, that looks way different from all the other monkeys.
And the only thing that we resemble is dogs, in that we are completely different looking, but we can breed with each other.
Like Shaquille O'Neal could mate with Miley Cyrus.
I mean, they don't even look like they're remotely the same species.
You know, Shaquille O'Neal is seven foot, whatever the fuck he is.
Miley Cyrus is not a good example.
Like, give me a really pale white girl who's tiny.
Shaquille O'Neal could fuck Bjork and they could have a baby.
That's ridiculous.
The only place that exists in nature is with dogs.
You know, like a baboon can't fuck an orangutan and get it pregnant.
It doesn't work that way.
But a dog, any dog can fuck any other dog and then just make another dog.
Like you take crazy dogs like a beagle and that beagle can fuck one of those giant Russian wolf dogs.
You ever seen those things?
Octavox, or whatever the fuck it's called, this crazy thing that looks like an American werewolf in London.
I mean, it's the most ridiculous-looking dog ever.
Well, they can fuck, and they can make a little crazy little hybrid baby.
That only exists in people and dogs.
And we know that human beings are genetically engineered dogs.
We know that, you know, by selective breeding and, you know, however the fuck they did it, they're not exactly sure, but they know that all dogs emanate from wolves.
Somehow or another, From wolves came chihuahuas and beagles and bulldogs.
All of them originated as wolves, which is really fucking fascinating when you stop and think about it.
Because we don't know about the origin of dogs.
The origin of dogs is a very confusing and slippery subject.
So then when you start talking about the origin of people, well, we fucking resemble dogs quite a bit, folks.
Okay?
And we don't look like anything else around us, and we don't behave like anything else around us.
We're way fucking smarter than everything else here.
There's a bunch of different things that happen to people.
And one of them that's the most confusing to scientists is the doubling of the human brain size over a period of two million years.
It's a really shocking fossil event.
They don't know what the fuck did that.
And there's a lot of different theories.
About higher protein consumption.
We figured out hunting, and then once we started hunting, our brains started growing because they had to figure out how to outsmart the animals.
And they connected to the throwing arm, the possibility that we figured out that we can throw things in a manner that no other animals can.
So then we started catching things with spears, and that accelerated our learning curve.
There's a lot of, like, weird...
But the bottom line is it's a fucking crazy mystery.
And if some alien race from another galaxy who is unbelievably brilliant and many, many, many, many, many generations ahead of us in the future to the point where, you know, they realized that in order to preserve intelligent life, you have to seed it.
So you have to come to a planet that already has life, find the smartest thing there.
What do you got here?
There's this crazy monkey thing that's figured out how to use a stick to pick up ants.
Okay, good.
He's thinking.
Okay, let's take some of them and let's do some shit to their DNA and let's see if they survive.
And then they come back.
They leave for a few thousand years or whatever and come back and see what the fuck we have.
What do we have now?
Well, we have some new signals.
They've developed nuclear weapons.
What do you want to do?
Fuck, that quick?
And then they come back and check us out.
It's very possible.
It's just as possible as us sending rovers to Mars.
We have done that.
We have to realize that if we have done that, And we have existed in this planet for 4.6 billion years.
It took for a human being to get to this point.
What if there's a planet that's 20 billion years old?
You know?
What if there's a planet that's, just double it.
Let's go to 12 billion.
What the fuck are we going to be like in 6 billion years or 4 billion years?
Well, the real problem with the Nibiru theory is that it comes in between Mars and Jupiter every 3,600 years.
That's the problem.
Is that we have depictions of shit that happened 3,600 years ago.
It's not that reliable, but you're talking, you would have to go to like 1000 BC. I think that if a planet came around and filled the sky, there would probably be a lot of stories about it.
And there's no stories about no planet.
Yeah.
Doesn't mean it didn't happen and didn't just fuck people up.
Well, he's just some crazy guy with a fucking bullshit story.
Those guys are annoying.
Listen to him.
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When they come together, when they collide, they let go and they release all of these protons for the impact.
And these protons They stimulate another round in the machine and they hit the earth.
And when they hit the earth, they create a chain reaction.
They create a reaction towards the direction of the magma.
The magma hits the protons and it shoots out to the exterior of the earth.
And so when they are released, they break the tectonic plates.
So they ignite the methane gas, and the gas escapes in the earth.
And in some way of friction, And one moment of that friction, the methane gas He's just talking about what happens with the Large Hadron Collider, the problems that's happening.
The reason he's explaining the particle collider is that they're going to do that on the 21st, right when...
The sun is in the, you know, when it passes through the center of the galaxy, he goes for eight minutes.
This is what he says, for eight minutes, that this is why, for eight minutes, we're going to be hit with, like, energy from the center of the galaxy, that we feel enlightened, like we're in a dream.
I thought that here's the center of the galaxy like a disc, and our sun It takes 26, it rotates like this around it, like that, and it takes 26,000 years to make that loop, and then it goes through the center, and then it goes this way, down, upward, and then it goes through the center.
Apparently the position it's going to be in, he said it's happened many times.
That's what he says.
These motherfuckers working on the Large Hadron Collider, though, they are unchecked.
Unchecked crazy super geniuses.
I'm not saying that we should stop the program, but I am saying that there's far too people that aren't concerned about the possibilities of all the crazy shit they're doing.
They're absolutely making little black holes.
Absolutely.
When you create that Higgs boson particle, there's these microscopic black holes that are made.
They don't have enough gravity to stay active, so they disappear really quickly.
But what the fuck?
What kind of a crazy asshole uses a machine with the possibility of making a black hole?
Because what's going to happen next?
Are they going to be happy with these results and just stop there?
What if there's more spectacular energy that can be created, but there's a smaller chance the black hole sticks around a while?
Of course they're going to go for that.
They're going to keep doing it.
They're going to keep doing it.
Because people are fucking infantuated with figuring out how shit works.
Things like the Large Hadron Collider, it's just one step in a never-ending process until they get to technology that could end the universe instantly, all at once.
It's almost inevitable.
If you think about what they're doing now, Large Hadron Collider is a crazy idea.
They are finding, they're recreating the conditions millionths of a second after the universe was created.
That's what they're doing by smashing those atoms together.
And there's also something called quark gluon plasma.
That's another thing that they've created.
They've created a new kind of matter that didn't exist before.
They're doing a lot of freaky shit.
This quark gluon plasma, I think if you made...
I think the dimensions are...
A sugar cube would weigh 40 million pounds.
It might be billion.
Let me see.
I gotta pull that up because it's fucking crazy.
When I read the quote, glue on plasma weight.
When I read the quote, I was like, what the fuck are they doing?
They're making some shit that is just like infinitely heavy.
And this is something that it was...
I believe this was all...
Basically, this was all theoretical until really recently.
I know that the...
Oh my god.
The quark-gluon plasma has an approximate temperature of 4 trillion degrees Celsius.
Holy shit.
4 trillion degrees Celsius.
There's just weird shit to reality and to matter that they're starting to figure out, like things like this, like this quark gluon plasma and the Higgs boson and whatever this new matter thing that they figured out.
They figured out some new kind of matter that they've created.
I saw a guy the other day in San Diego, and he had these little things that you attach to your fingers that are like glow sticks, but you go like this and they flash around.
I guess it's like a rave thing now, popular.
But it was hilarious watching him dance with that shit.
If the movement hit me, if the rhythm gets me, I might go and put on some fucking glow stick thingies and dance like a motherfucker.
Have you guys heard about this lawsuit where there's a pill that this dude took that turned him into a gay sex and gambling act?
The court has upheld this ruling, okay?
A ruling against the pharmaceutical giant, Glasgow Smith, they had to pay €197,000 to a man who claimed that the drug used to treat his Parkinson's turned him into a gay, sex, and gambling addict.
So the guy said the drug made him addicted to internet gambling and caused him to lose the family savings and steal to feed the habit that cost him 82,000 euros.
Then he said he attempted suicide eight times and became a compulsive gay sex addict.
Exposing himself on the internet and cross-dressing.
His risky sexual encounters led to him being raped.
Well, it's really ridiculous too because The greatest warriors in the history of humanity have been gay guys.
There's been a lot of gay sex in the Romans, a lot of gay sex in the Greeks.
I mean, before North America ever even was populated with houses, these guys were fucking people up with swords and banging each other in the ass.
So they were their kings back then.
So the idea that you could drop a bomb on these Iraqis...
And then all of a sudden, all this butt sex would just be going off and no one would feel like they would need to fight back.
What if you turned them into some crazy super warrior Greek homo gods and they just all started fucking Americans up because they loved each other because they're all gay sexing each other all day and they fight even harder because they don't want to lose their boyfriends.
They really did think that they were going to be able to do that.
In the 1990s, they spent a lot of money on this, man.
The theory was that the bomb would release a chemical compound that would render the opposing troops so irresistibly horny that instead of raising their rifles to defend their nations, they would turn ravenously gay and raise something else in time and have passionate sex with each other.
Because bears seem to always get along for a little while until there's some pussy around, and then you see bears going off on each other and brawling in the fields.
It's always pussy that brings them to that.
So I wonder if there was no pussy involved, it was just two dudes.
If you wanted to have a gay relationship, would you want a gay relationship with a bear-type gay dude, a super obvious, really super femme gay dude, or a dude who looks exactly like a girl but has a dick?
It's like, you know, I'm not drunk, but I'm buzzed.
You start being bi for a little.
I wonder if they're ever going to figure out a way, or if humans keep evolving, if we're ever going to separate the idea of sex and making people.
Because if you look at all the images that people claim to have seen, like of these aliens, the gray aliens, they all are sexless.
They have no organs.
They have no sex organs.
You've got to wonder, man, if we keep fucking around with genetics, And we keep fucking around with artificial skin and all this weird shit that's going on right now that they're in the middle of experimenting with.
Artificial cells, artificial atoms, like really strange, I don't know if they could do artificial atoms, but really strange shit.
And the idea is that one day, what if they just say, listen, when we have sex, we have these problems and there's a lot of emotions.
We've figured out a way to isolate those same feelings, and you can get that with a pill.
And then we can just recreate people with skin cells.
We can make you a person, and you can raise that person, and the person will just take a skin cell from you and run it through a fucking computer.
What do you want?
You want a boy?
You want a girl?
It doesn't matter.
Everybody looks the same.
Nobody's got a dick.
And they come out, and if we keep going, if technology and the symbiotic relationship that human beings have to it If that shit keeps going, which it obviously is going to, we're going to start fucking with the human body.
And we're certainly more likely to move away from monkey instincts and the certain needs that cause people to want to dominate others, to want to fuck others, to want to plant seeds.
If we really look at it all objectively, we might one day decide to slowly move away from that.
It might take a few thousand years.
But it might get to a point where, as a culture, they've recognized that these lustful feelings that we enjoy today and that motivate people to build buildings and drive fast cars and fucking learn how to fly a jet, that might be a thing of the past.
They might figure out a way to engineer human beings to the point where sex is no longer part of the equation.
That's a real mindfuck, man.
If they come up with something that feels better than sex, though, it's totally possible.
They come up with some sort of an artificial reality, some simulated thing, some fucking...
No, listen, I've never said anything that's not true.
He's done some silly things when it came to marijuana and the silliest thing is all his nonsense that he says on a CNN show about these horrible addictive withdrawals that people have and withdrawal symptoms that people have from marijuana.
That's crazy and he knows it.
That is fucking crazy.
The people who have Any physical withdrawal from marijuana are extremely rare.
There's no connection in marijuana physically to addiction.
It's not like opiates where there's an established connection of addiction.
There's no chemical established connection of addiction to marijuana.
It's not something that robs your brain of dopamine and then you need it to re-get your high again.
It doesn't work that way.
So for someone that discounts it, and then the other problem is they belittle it.
They say, well, look, hey, I'm all for it.
You want to smoke your pot?
Go ahead and smoke your pot.
That's what you want to do.
Some people like to drink.
Some people like to smoke pot.
And the problem with that is that they're talking from a non-experienced point of view.
They're not a person who's had any psychedelic experiences, and they're not a person who has had any cannabis experiences that were enlightening.
And you and I both have had some crazy experiences, eating it, smoking it, whatever, where we broke down some certain aspect of our life and changed things and looked at things in a different way and created things.
And music has come from it and ideas have come from it.
And an understanding of yourself comes from it.
And to discount that is ignorance, especially if you haven't experienced it.
And you are dealing with a broken group of people.
You're dealing primarily with people that come to someone when shit has fallen apart.
But guess what?
There's a lot of people that aren't falling apart.
It's not the same drug as all these drugs that people are taking where they're scratching their face off.
You can't call it a drug.
You cannot call it a drug.
Because there's no meth advocates.
There's no people, you know, trying to tell you that you just get a little crystal and you're gonna get your life in order.
You know?
Get a little crystal and change your perspective.
Man, why don't you just look at things in a fresh manner, bro.
Get a little crystal in your system and then listen to this song.
That sounds like one of those, dude, they were ready to totally close the state and quit being a state, and then weed came along, and now they're rich.
The real issue is the problem that dummies get to vote.
That's the real problem.
The real problem is dummies get to vote, and a lot of dummies have these fundamentalist ideas about it, and they just can't accept the fact that, first of all, you should be able to do whatever the fuck you want to do.
I'm a grown man, you're a grown man, just because you believe in, you know, whatever, doesn't mean you can stop me from doing what I want to do if it doesn't hurt anybody else.
So that right away is a problem, because not everybody agrees with that.
There's a lot of fucking dummies, and those dummies get to vote.
Let's say – I think it's like 16. But the – I think that eventually the Washington states and the Colorados, the two places – 18. 18, wow.
The two states that made it legal, what's going to be really interesting to see is what happens from here because – If the federal government still decides to fuck with them, they can.
And that's where it gets really strange.
So if these people start up legitimate weed stores that are legitimate under their state law, just like liquor stores, pay their taxes and all that shit, does the government come down on them?
Because they can if they want, and they have before.
There's a case of a guy from Montana, and he's becoming a big martyr once people found out about it on the internet, because this guy regularly had law enforcement from state law enforcement.
He invited them on tours of his grow-up.
He did everything legit.
Everything by the book.
Checked, double-checked with everybody.
Followed the state law to a T. But the government came in and arrested him under federal laws.
They wouldn't even let him use the term medical marijuana because it doesn't exist federally.
That's where it gets really fucking squirrely because, look, When there's a guy who's not hurting anybody and he's giving someone something that should be legal in your area because the people voted on it, if you want to lock that guy up, you're the criminal.
That's an important point to make in this society.
Just because someone wrote some shit down on paper and you can interpret it in a way That you decide you could put someone in jail, and if you put someone in jail that's not doing anyone any danger, and you put someone in jail for 80 fucking years for selling happy plants, you're a criminal.
Like, you're a cultural criminal.
Like, that's someone who's robbing society.
That's someone who we have to pay.
We pay them tax dollars, and they arrest people who aren't hurting anyone.
You're telling me there wasn't other shit you guys could have done?
You're telling me those cops that arrested that guy, they couldn't have been, like, busting burglaries or burglaries or arresting murderers or, you know, fucking kicking down the door of a crack house?
Why the fuck are they going after this guy who keeps having cops and law enforcement and mayors over his property to show them his grow-up because everything's done under state law and paying his taxes?
Because there's a bunch of criminals in government, man.
The actual government itself is filled with criminals, and they think that they're allowed to do it because it's written down somewhere.
It's a federal law.
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The federal law against marijuana has been the same since 1935. The federal government does not change its position.
Those people that are reading the news, man, they ain't so smart.
Those fuckers, all they do is they just read off a prompter.
I've never been impressed with the knowledge of the people that read the news.
They can all suck it.
I don't know what happened to the Pentagon, but that shit looked like a plane just hit it.
But it doesn't mean it wasn't like, also, the big theory is that it was some sort of a remote control plane.
That they've had remote control planes since the 1960s.
We know that because they wanted to use them in that Operation Northwoods.
One of the plans involved using a drone airliner, sending it up in the air and blowing it up and blaming it on the Cubans.
So if they could do that in the 1960s, if they could blow up a plane back then, they could probably pilot things remote by now.
And apparently they can.
And it's been proven that they can.
They absolutely can.
They can land them.
They can take them off.
They can actually put planes in the air.
So the crazy conspiracy theory, as far as I was concerned, was that one of the most fascinating ones, they all have a hint of nuttiness, but the most fascinating ones was that there was some sort of a drone.
And that's how those planes crashed into the buildings.
And that they couldn't be engineered like...
Or rather, the people that were flying them probably couldn't have pulled off those maneuvers.
But that if you had it under remote control, it could work.
That was what some pilots had speculated.
Especially like the Pentagon one.
The Pentagon one, apparently, pilots really trip out about.
Because they've done these simulations and no one's been able to recreate it in a simulation.
They have a simulation machine.
It shows exactly the path that the plane took when it hit the Pentagon, and these pilots can't even do it.
The conspiracy theory has been, look at all this fishy shit.
Now the latest shit is...
Like what companies and securities companies and brokerage and tying it into the collapse of Russia, when Russia was collapsing, all these shady ass people high up, I don't know what you want to call them, were buying up all this Russian shit and laundering it through securities,
like $250 billion of securities, like they were just snatching, they made a cash grab in Russia, but it was all illegal laundering shit and every 10 years, Every 10 years, like that was in 1991, so 2001 was the year that they had a review, you know, it takes 10 years to review and make sure everything, all the securities, to make sure they're all legit and all that shit.
I really don't know how it runs, but they're tying it into, they had to blow up the security brokerages on the building because they were going to check and they were going to find out like George W. Bush's dad, What is he, George Herbert Bush or whatever?
It was all CIA, international banker shit, and it all ties into the collapse of Russia.
He's trying as much as he can to sort of slowly turn the tide, but that the people that are in positions of power, they've done it this way for so long.
That's what's really fucked up about it, the idea that these guys got away with it like this.
Well, I think there was also explosions, and there might not have been bombs because there were so many fires.
I mean, that was one of the excuses they used for Tower 7. The only one that makes sense is that there was diesel fires because they had diesel generators, and apparently they had just a fuckload of diesel, and that shit caught on fire.
If that was the case, I could see it, like, gutting the place with some crazy fire and maybe it falls down.
According to this theory, okay, according to this theory, I don't know what's true or not.
I'm just reading these theories.
According to this theory, it was all about they had to get rid of these brokerages and the people, Naval Intelligence and the El Dorado Task Force because they were about to investigate at the 10-year, because they're 10-year securities.
Whatever that means.
They're like bonds or something or CDs or something worth over $240 million.
That's what the investigation was about.
They finally were going to...
AIG is...
Supposedly, according to this theory, AIG, that insurance company, they're more than just insurance.
They're involved in all...
They got CIA ties and all this crazy shit.
They had to cover it up.
This is according to this theory.
They needed to blow all that shit up so those transactions could slide through during the chaos and they wouldn't...
Because the Federal Reserve at 9-1-1 They took emergency power.
So that day, they took emergency power so they could do whatever they want.
The Security and Exchange Commission, they had an emergency procedure that they've never done before, which meant that we got a lot of chaos here.
Let's just run all these securities without checking them and just run these through.
I don't know if they did that, so I think speculating about it is silly.
But what I do know is that a lot of people banked on those airlines fucking up.
And they sold a lot of their shares like they knew some things were going on.
Huge, significant numbers on American Airlines.
They shorted their stocks.
That alone is really squirrely.
Like, what the fuck?
That alone, if it is true, and apparently it is, I feel like that should be a big point of investigation.
And if it is true, and I've seen it reported in multiple supposedly valid websites that deal with the news, if that is true, like, there's just the fact that that hasn't been investigated makes you just go, how many people can be involved in it?
If we really have a really crazy sort of a...
Fake democracy and they're just stealing and engineering shit and blowing shit up on occasion.
How many people have to be involved?
And how come nobody wants to rat them out?
How come nobody wants to make the ultimate book from the shadows?
And if you're in the business of news, there's only one way you get access to that news.
You have to be able to go to countries.
You have to be able to do...
As soon as you piss those people off, you can't get in there anymore.
You're done.
You're removed from this.
Oh, you can't go to Congress anymore.
There's people to this day, I'm sure, that have websites or people that want to get press passes for certain things.
They want to be able to get into areas where the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal get to you.
And they can't get in.
Just because you have a website that has a million hits a day doesn't mean that they're going to let you in.
You can't lob questions at the president.
Just because you have a big antenna.
But it really should be that way.
I mean, if a guy has a big antenna, that means Perez Hilton should be able to ask the president questions.
I mean, why not?
Perez Hilton's got millions of fucking hits every day.
Why not him?
I mean, I feel like he would have probably questions more along the lines of how I would think than a lot of these fucking weirdos that you see that get elected to Congress and get elected to the Senate.
Like that dude that was trying to be president.
Paul Ryan, the dude who was running for vice president.
You know that because they don't have any more than two candidates.
They used to let extra candidates in.
The last time they did that was with Ross Perot.
He was the last independent.
And that guy fucked everything up, man.
Because he got his own television show.
He took over NBC. Like, during prime time, he bought the time.
And he went on and told everybody how you're getting fucked.
Told everybody what the federal bank is, and told everybody where taxes go, and told everybody this insurmountable debt, and this is how you've been set up.
And he did it on television.
And because of the fact that he had so much money, that he could get away with doing shit that traditionally only the Democrats and Republicans could do.
But all of a sudden there's this independent that's like stealing, you know, 20-30% of the vote.
And it fucked up the whole thing.
And that's how Bill Clinton became president.
Because they were like...
And there you go.
That guy, he ruined everything.
So then the Commission for Presidential Debates, they changed what it takes to be able to compete at the highest levels.
And the big main guy was this Mitt Romney character.
It's always going to happen this way.
And all the people that are in place behind the scenes, they all watch it all play out.
But it doesn't matter who wins.
The same people are paying those people.
Socially, I think we're better off with a guy like Obama.
I think he gives people hope.
He's a young black guy from a single mom.
That makes people feel better.
It makes people believe that, hey, You know, maybe that racism shit is kind of in the past, and maybe, you know, look, man, if racism didn't stop a black man from being president, like, it's surmountable.
You can overcome this.
Like, this is a good example for the culture.
The real problem is the dude does a lot of the same shit that Bush did.
That's the real problem.
We thought we were gonna get this dude who's like us, but they're still using drones.
Knowing all the fucked up shit the government's been...
People high in the government.
I'm not talking about your average congressman or anything, but the people that are really running shit, knowing all the fucked up shit they've done, all the JFK stuff and all that...
I think they worry about any sort of an uprising and the best way to keep any sort of an uprising from coming to fruition is to nip it in the bud.
And when you're in a position of power, especially it's an undeserved position of power, if it turns out that you're using your money to influence politicians and you're manipulating the system in order to gain an advantage so that it helps your business, And all that stuff is exposed.
Well, that should be a crime.
That should be way worse than insider trading.
But meanwhile, it's standard operational procedure.
And when there's any sort of a threat to that, they're gonna try to stop that threat in advance.
And one of the best ways to stop that threat in advance is fear.
Make people scared to speak out.
Make people scared to act.
And one of the best ways to make people scared It's to give yourself godlike powers.
Give yourself the ability to just, I can take this person and lock them in that cage and never let them out, ever.
And that's what the NDAA says.
That's crazy.
Because even Hitler would have got a trial, okay?
If we had captured Hitler and supposedly no soldier had gone crazy and shot him in the head, which is probably unlikely.
They probably would have shot him, just like they did Gaddafi, right?
But if we did capture him, they would have given Hitler a trial.
And what they're saying is you, this average person that they decide to detain, they can choose to use tactics on you that they wouldn't have used on Hitler.
They can choose to just lock you up indefinitely and not give you access to lawyers.
That's not good for anybody.
And that's not American.
That's not what we're supposed to be about.
And you can't have that kind of power.
And that's exactly what's happening in Egypt right now.
You know, they let this new dude in in Egypt.
And now 200,000 people are rallying in the streets trying to get this guy to get out of office because he changed the laws.
He made it so you can't arrest him.
He can't be tried for anything.
He just turned himself into a god.
He just got in there and then they went, fuck you.
We've already been through this shit.
No, you can't do that.
They all get to the point of governing and I think the possibility of being overthrown by some completely new organization is terrifying for them.
What if the Green Party all of a sudden took off in this country?
And what if it was like the Green Party became the number one party in the country?
Look how many people go to Whole Foods.
Look how many people want to recycle.
What if that shit spreads?
What if it spreads and all of a sudden the Green Party becomes the prominent party in this country?
When we realize that we're poisoning our food and poisoning our water and poisoning the ocean.
Killing all the fish.
If they ever did get to that position, that would be a terrible loss of power for the Republicans, the Democrats, and all the corporations that support them.
If the public's opinion changed and people really did get behind a party that was independent and not reliant whatsoever, On corporations, that would be fucking terrifying to the powers that be.
Instead of going around making billions and billions of dollars a year, traveling around in fat yachts, you know, banging supermodels and then cutting their heads off, instead of doing that, you would make nothing.
You wouldn't be in power anymore.
Your corporations would have to stand up on the merit of the products that they sell, not on your ability to change laws so that you can make products cheaper and in the meantime ruin the earth.
And that's a terrifying thing for those fuckheads.
So what they try to do is take away your rights.
Take away your right to express yourself.
Be able to come in and shut down your website at any point in time.
No file sharing.
I don't know what the fuck you're saying.
No, no, no, I gotta look at that shit.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
I gotta be able to look at everybody's email at any time.
This is a matter of national security.
We are the government.
This is the Homeland Security Department of Security of the mothers and the children of this country.
Texas, supposedly constitutionally being one of the few countries or cities or states that can, because I think technically they view themselves as a republic.
I think maybe other states do as well, but from what I understood, the way the Texas state declaration or whatever the fuck their constitution is, whatever the fuck that states have that defines themselves, They define themselves slightly different than most states.
And they believe that they're their own sort of situation.
You know, all that shit came from Mexico.
Texas was Mexico.
California was Mexico.
I mean, that wasn't that long ago.
Everybody sort of kind of forgot about that.
That shit was not that long ago.
Mexico was like...
There was like giant chunks of America that was Mexico.
Austin is probably the best place, like socially and liberally and intellectually.
It's one of the best places in the country.
And it's the best place in Texas for free thinkers, open-minded people, well-read people, people that are hip, people that are tuned in to what the fuck is going on in the world.
But they're surrounded by silly people.
There's people all around the middle of Texas and crazy places.
There's a lot of churches and people are nutty and they're doing exorcisms.
It's like a...
Texas is a mix, you know, it's a mix of really cool, like Houston's really cool, Dallas is really cool, it's a mix of like a lot of really cool spots, and these spots, when you drive to the really cool spots, and you go through hours and hours of these backwoodsy-type towns, and you're like, whoa, whoa, what if you were born here?
What if you were born there, and Eddie Bravo had to grow up there?
Like, oh my god, like there's a lot of spots that suck, and the problem is, those people get to vote too.
So shit like medical marijuana does not pass.
And the reason why it doesn't pass is that civilization hasn't spread through the entire state.
Those crazy rainforests in Washington State where it rains constantly.
Dude, that's a different feeling when you're walking through that kind of life.
Like there's so much vegetation life around you that as you're like, you're in that, there's like this bright green forest, you kind of understand where all the old myths of like fairies and elves and wood sprites appearing because as you're walking, there's so much energy in the air that you're almost thinking someone's watching you.
You're almost looking at trees and shit and thinking they're peering at you and looking back at you.
Because you're feeling, you're sensing that there's other life there.
You're sensing it because there's this incredible wealth of vegetation because it fucking rains every day.
I never fucking saw grass like that in Studio City.
That grass is dry and gray and all fucked up and brown.
That Portland grass is alive.
And if you walk into those woods, man, there's something about those dense rainforests that give off this weird sort of feeling.
There's a strange silence, and you hear animals, but it's a weird sound because there's so much vegetation that it's like being in a room that's stuffed with things.
Sound doesn't travel the same way.
It's not like being in a place where you're on top of a hill and you overlook canyons.
No.
You're walking through this dense thing that feels like you're inside of a living thing.
And it is!
That rainforest is like a living thing.
In fact, the Pacific rainforest has the biggest single organism on the face of the earth.
There's a mushroom colony in the Pacific Northwest.
That's so enormous.
It's bigger than like X amount of blue whales.
It's huge.
And it's this connection.
Like almost like a neural connection.
Underneath the way it's worked in the ground in this entire area.