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Dec. 28, 2011 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #171 - EverLast (Part 1)
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everlast
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joe rogan
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Hit the music, bitch!
We got Everlast in the house today!
Come on, son!
What's the name of this song?
unidentified
I Get By.
brian redban
Single off the new album, Everlast, Ungrateful Living.
unidentified
Government man keep calling my house, talking about our old, harassing my spouse.
Gotta park my truck on another block, cause the subprime loan got my ass in hock.
Got a couple good friends with helping hands.
I need a brand new job with a healthcare plan.
They closed the plan, they stole my job.
They told me crime don't pay unless you ask the mob.
So I smoke a little grass, drink a little wine.
Watch a little too, try to kill a little time.
And every single day I found a little more behind.
But I'm paying it no mind, it'll all be fine.
I get fired.
I barely get fired.
It's good shit.
joe rogan
Love it.
This is classic.
everlast
You gotta check out the video.
unidentified
Where can you find the video?
On YouTube, Everlast Music Channel.
joe rogan
We only gave you a taste, ladies and gentlemen.
There's more of that song, obviously.
But you can tell that's classic shit.
That's you and your groove, man.
unidentified
Yeah.
And you know what?
brian redban
It's one of those CDs I was talking about this earlier.
unidentified
I buy CDs and I usually like two or three songs.
brian redban
This is one of those CDs where I honestly like every single song on this CD. And there's a few of them.
unidentified
That, like, my house, I fucking love.
This is an awesome CD, man.
joe rogan
It's been a while since you put something out, so is it, like...
everlast
A couple years.
joe rogan
How many years has it been?
everlast
Two.
2008 I put a three, so 2008 I put out a record.
joe rogan
Do you like having, like, that kind of a space in between records where you really get to work on your shit and really get to, like, put it in a form you like?
everlast
Yeah, I got no choice.
It's just songs come to me in groups and in bunches, and then I get caught up just living.
You know what I mean?
unidentified
I just kind of...
everlast
I can't force an issue.
If I tried to write a song when I wasn't feeling like writing a song, it would just be horrible.
I mean, I've done it.
I've tried it.
You know what I mean?
It's just sometimes it's like life says don't write a record.
joe rogan
Right, right, right.
everlast
And then I tour and I lay back and I take my time.
I like taking in as much music as I do putting out music.
So I listen to things.
I learn more about music.
joe rogan
Right.
Do you like, when you write, do you just say, do you have like a whim?
Like it just comes across you?
Like, I'm going to sit down right now and start writing a song.
Like, you don't have like a set aside time or anything.
Like, where you go, I'm just going to work on music.
How does it work with you?
everlast
Nowadays, I just go, you know, I keep a studio away from the house.
Just, you know, kind of, and make it like a job.
Just go every day, you know, not quite nine to five hours, but...
Try to keep it as respectful to the family and whatnot as you can.
Before, if I wanted to work at 2 in the morning, I'd work at 2 in the morning.
And that's still the case, but I don't really live in that hour anymore.
joe rogan
I don't either, but there's something kind of badass about that shit that comes out at like 4 a.m.
everlast
Yeah, that's why you can't not do it if it needs to be done, but I'm not sitting around at 2 in the morning waiting on it.
If it jumps on me, I'm working on it, but...
joe rogan
I always personally felt like I was writing anything that you don't get into the real trance until like the whole house is asleep.
everlast
Oh yeah.
joe rogan
Until it's just you and the silence and the keyboard and then you get into the real trance.
everlast
Well that's also why I keep a separate area like you know I'm talking about like a good hour away from the house.
I got a drive to go to the studio and I usually spend a day or two there and you know just lock my mind out of everything and try and you know it's there's no windows so it could be two in the morning and you know Are you always writing shit down too?
joe rogan
Like if you're like in a restaurant or something, you have an idea for something, do you write it down or do you just fuck with it in your head?
everlast
I've honestly never written an idea down ever.
unidentified
Wow.
everlast
Not a lyric, not a rap lyric, not a song.
joe rogan
So you just keep them all in your head.
everlast
Yeah, not a chord, like progression on it.
joe rogan
Wow.
everlast
If I can't remember it, it's lost to the universe.
joe rogan
That's awesome.
There's something beautiful about that, man.
That's pretty badass.
everlast
Yeah, I'm like a beautiful mind, kind of an idiot.
Idiot savant.
I don't even know half the chords I play on the guitar, man.
I've just copied them from other people.
joe rogan
Really?
everlast
Holy shit.
joe rogan
Doesn't Jay-Z do that as well?
He doesn't write any of his raps down?
everlast
I believe so, yeah.
joe rogan
That's incredible.
That's incredible.
So all of your shit is just...
everlast
It just started for me as a way of exercising your mind when I was a young kid trying to be a rapper.
I was like, you should always have it ready in your brain.
And then my style of writing just became kind of visual, and it's like in my mind when I write lyrics, I have the pictures in my brain.
I equate it to that cat on Oz that drew pictures on paper, but he was a poet.
You know what I mean?
It wasn't words.
It was always his picture, but he would read it as a poem.
And it's almost the same thing.
It's three-dimensional in my head.
A song, the minute I would start writing the words out two-dimensionally, it would just lose all meaning and feeling to me.
joe rogan
Oh, that's fascinating.
So you feel like the writing in just a verbal and an audio way is the way to do it and just store it in memory.
everlast
It's just three-dimensional for me.
In my mind, it's like three-dimensional pictures of what I'm writing about.
That totally makes sense.
The minute I commit them to paper and they're two-dimensional, I lose all it.
I hate.
I mean, it's a despisal.
They go from something I'm really digging, so let me write that down and see it.
And then I see it as a whole different medium.
It's words.
It's paper.
joe rogan
That's amazing.
Yeah, that's a fascinating way of looking at it.
everlast
Might be why I only put out a record every two or three years.
joe rogan
That's really interesting, though, but you're totally right.
Well, there's some people that have just a way of expressing themselves.
That's like a fun way to listen to.
I always bring up my friend Joey Diaz.
Do you know Joey Diaz, the comedian?
everlast
Sounds familiar.
joe rogan
If you ever listen to the podcast, he's on all the time.
He's one of my best friends, and he's this guy that is just...
The way he talks is just like poetry.
He's just like, what's up, dog?
Where's this party-kicking motherfucker?
unidentified
What are we doing, bitches?
joe rogan
He's giving everybody knuckles, and everybody's laughing and smiling.
He just takes you off in a wave.
And Joey Diaz is not something you can write down on paper.
That's a flavor.
That's a real, live, like as you said, three-dimensional flavor to the way his words come out.
everlast
It's alive.
It surrounds me in my head.
If I'm writing it in my head, it's all around me.
joe rogan
Wow.
everlast
And meaning I commit it to paper, it's just flat and loses it.
joe rogan
So if none of this is all written down, do you have a set list in your mind of how you put it in order in your shows?
Or do you wing it?
Do you go on how you feel?
everlast
No, I'll write the titles down for a set list.
I'm saying, it's also become a superstition at this point in my life.
It's like, after you make a record, they want the lyrics.
The publishing company that's giving you money for what you've written wants to know what you wrote.
But I actually have to have one of my people, my assistants, write the lyrics down.
I'll sit there and dictate them to you.
Because it's become a superstition at this point, too.
joe rogan
Wow.
Have you ever tried to break away from that?
Let me see if I could just write one out.
everlast
And start from scratch by writing it down.
I have.
And it's just, again, it's like I don't...
I live in a song until it's done.
You know what I mean?
Until it's finished.
It's all around me.
Once it's on paper, it's like it's...
joe rogan
Well, you hit some notes, man.
You hit some notes in that What It's Like song.
We're like, whoa.
You know, the one about the girl finding out she's pregnant and the guy leaving.
You find that man again.
She's going to cut off his balls.
You You hit that note, and that note maybe wasn't something that would have ever been the same if it was written down.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, you hit it with the feeling of being that girl in that situation, and it was realistic and, you know, like alive, three-dimensional.
everlast
Yeah, I mean, trust me, there's times I wish I could do that, like, take that and write it on a piece of paper in a way that I thought was beautiful and artistic, because I'd love to write a movie.
But I can't do that.
I'm saying it's this thing about music and the way it lives in my head.
I don't really know how to make music, man.
I've been faking it for a long time, dude.
I've just been picking up things and making sounds that I'm like, I like this sound.
I'm going to make this sound.
That's the realest way I can put it.
I mean, I've learned along the way how to become a musician and how to produce a record.
but I'm saying it started with me just kind of being like, I'm just going to rap or whatever it was I was going to do, you know, and then pick up the guitar.
I was just, I'm just going to play this little thing I wrote.
joe rogan
That's kind of brilliant, though, in a way, because it's so uninfluenced and influenced at the same time.
You know, instead of being influenced by, like, classical instruction and, you know, structure and all that stuff, you're influenced by just what you enjoy and imitating that, you know, and then expressing it in your own way.
everlast
It's, you know.
joe rogan
That's amazing.
It's a, that's very rare that, you know, that someone's ever done that, right?
When you meet other people that are musicians, do they have the same story?
everlast
No, not really.
I mean, a lot of them really trip on the way I do what I do.
Especially when I bring...
Because I always bring in cats to help produce records.
I think, even though I could probably accomplish the deed on my own, you need people to challenge you in the course of creating something just to make it that much better.
joe rogan
Just to collaborate and bounce shit back and forth to somebody you respect.
everlast
Or just people that you even trust enough that would say, that sucks.
Even if it's just somebody that's that, you're my guy to make sure if something sucks, you're the voice.
You know what I mean?
Whose opinion you trust.
joe rogan
Yeah.
everlast
But, yeah, also creatively, whatever it is.
You know what I mean?
There's a lot of instruments I can't play.
You know what I mean?
That I know cats that can play.
So, it's just, you know, All of them go to school.
That's what I'm saying.
I steal everything I can from all of them.
I'm always the worst musician in the room in my mind.
Even though I'll get up and play with anybody and it'll work, I still have this thing in the back of my mind that's like, I don't know what the hell I'm doing.
It's like, man, okay, I'm just kind of sneaking on stage.
Seeing if I blend.
I'm like the soy bomb guy from the Grammys.
Remember that guy who came out during Dylan with the soy bomb written on his chest?
I'm just sneaking onto the set trying to get something.
joe rogan
But you gotta know that people must love that.
There's something so authentic about that.
There's something so authentic about just kind of like learning how to play music by making noises with a guitar until you figure it out.
That's pretty fucking badass.
everlast
You're still in a chord, watching the videos real close, and VHS pausing them, and the thing's shaking, and you're trying to see where his fingers are on the thing.
We're like, what chord is that?
I'm going to try and do that.
joe rogan
Did you read a book on it or anything?
everlast
I took a few guitar lessons when I was real young, maybe six or eight guitar lessons, and then kind of lost interest in it, because hip-hop kind of stole my mind away.
And then later on during the House of Pain days, there's actually a bunch of stuff on House of Pain records that are just little things that I played that we looped up and put, you know, like little country riff for that shit kicker song.
Every time I go to town, people start kicking my dog around.
There's a guitar piece under there that I played.
So there's little bits of it, but it's like after...
I left House of Pain, I had a guitar around me all the time, and I just started really actually saying, let me see what I can do with this thing.
And the cat who helped me produce Whitey Ford Sings the Blues, or I should say produced the record with me, Dante Ross, we were just working on hip-hop music.
And I was just kind of crashing to his place and playing guitar all the time.
And he'd be like, what is that?
And it was this thing.
And I didn't even know what it was yet, but that's what turned out to be what it's like.
He's like, we're going to record that tomorrow.
And I was like, I don't even know what it is.
So now I'm thinking I got to record this thing tomorrow.
So I stay up all night and I like write lyrics to it.
And, you know, it turned, we put it into a little beat and we were sitting there listening to it and we're like, that works.
But how does it work with all this stuff?
You're doing this rap record and That's how the other songs in Whitey Ford just kind of started happening.
Like I said, the music just started surrounding me.
I listen to the music more than, let's say...
I have this definite idea of what a song is.
I'll get a lyrical idea or a little riff idea, and I'll start working on that.
And then once that takes a little bit of life, it'll start telling me what it wants.
It'll be like, I'll hear a slide guitar on it, or there should be a piano right there.
I can hear it in the space that's in between.
It's telling me.
I'm not this dude who's like, I know what parts and what, but I'll be like, I know what sound should go right there because I can hear it.
And then you add that sound and it will sub-harmonically create this other ghost sound in there that you're like, oh, that's a violin I can hear.
Let's put a violin in there.
And it builds itself into what it's supposed to be.
unidentified
That's amazing.
joe rogan
That's pretty fucking badass, man.
When I was a kid, I had friends that were musicians, and I was always terrified of learning a musical instrument.
I was like, that shit looks like it.
everlast
Me too, man.
unidentified
I'm still terrified of learning a musical instrument, man.
Do you find technology has helped you a lot?
Not GarageBand, but programming, the programs nowadays.
everlast
I have to keep an engineer around all the time on duty and ready to go, because I'm...
So I can get on the laptop and go on YouTube and find some stupid videos that'll make me laugh.
I can get on the Facebook and the Twitter and whatnot.
I could probably get two tracks recorded at the studio on my own before I just turned in for the day.
That would take me probably about six hours, which would take him about eight minutes.
The technology has helped By making it easier to have your own studio, you know what I mean?
Instead of spending a million dollars on a studio, I spend $40,000, $50,000 and I have a really beautiful studio, you know what I mean?
But I'm still with just, it's all about, 90% of what I do is, you know, either at my studio or late at night in a room by myself with the acoustic guitar, banging on it, trying to think of something funny or witty or What you really nailed was this kind of bluesy, smooth, hip-hoppy sound that nobody had ever done before, like what it's like.
joe rogan
There's a lot of blues to that song.
everlast
I just kind of walked a line between Brad from Sublime and Wyclef Jean.
I saw what Wyclef started doing with all his R&B and island-influenced music, mixing that with hip-hop.
I was just kind of starting to record this guitar stuff, the What It's Like song, and I was a big fan of Sublime and how he always injected these little hip-hop phrases into lyrics and things.
I knew he had to be, never really knew the dude, but knew he had to be kind of a b-boy to a certain degree and those kind of things.
That's kind of how we saw that it would all work when we were looking at the record, me and my friend Dante.
My label thought Whitey Ford Sings the Blues was a horrible idea.
joe rogan
Isn't it funny how that always works?
everlast
It was, because we were convinced, no, this is going to work.
It's just what it is.
It's all the same thing to me.
That's what I always say.
I consider myself a hip-hop artist, but I also don't really believe in any genre of music.
I just think music's music, you know what I mean?
Tony Bennett has some stuff that makes me go like this.
I'll be like, oh, that's hip-hop to me, because that's the same thing hip-hop made me do.
joe rogan
How lucky can one guy be?
everlast
The right Zeppelin song.
Somebody else, that's rock and roll.
Somebody else calls that jazz.
You know what I mean?
But it's whatever makes you personally Yeah.
unidentified
Ooh!
joe rogan
Yeah.
everlast
What is that?
joe rogan
Yeah.
everlast
You know, kind of feeling.
joe rogan
Yeah, I like a lot of country music, and some people give me shit about that.
I'm like, I like some Toby Keith songs, man.
everlast
They're good.
I'm not so big on new country, because I'm just not hip to the game, but I love country music, man.
You're gonna like that record, John.
joe rogan
I'm sure I love it.
I'm a huge fan of yours, man.
everlast
So you drive home tonight, you pop that record in, and by the time you get home, if I don't see a text from you, like, that's a badass record.
unidentified
It goes great with whiskey, I feel.
joe rogan
I believe it will.
everlast
My music ain't country, but it's definitely country-friendly, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, it's got a slang to it, you know?
It's got a smoothness to it.
You know, it's great shit, man.
I love it.
I'm a huge fan of your shit.
One of the things Anthony Bourdain said, we were having this conversation once, he didn't become famous until he was in his 40s.
everlast
Hold up, let me pick up that name you just dropped there, man.
unidentified
Boop!
joe rogan
I'm going to say it for you.
He said the coolest thing about becoming famous is that you get to meet famous people.
That's the coolest thing.
Absolutely.
And meeting you and hanging out with you at the UFC. One time, we were smoking a joint in a Vegas casino.
We're in the middle of a bar.
You go, you want to smoke a joint?
I go, yeah, where do you want to go?
And he goes, Everlast just goes, what do you mean go?
He just pulls out a lighter.
He just pulls out a lighter and I'm like, alright, well fuck it, man.
If I get arrested, at least I'm getting arrested with Everlast.
unidentified
Arrested?
everlast
At the worst, they'd ask us to put it out, man.
At the worst, they'd be like, hey, come on, man.
They give you that look like, dude, don't make my job harder.
joe rogan
You can still smoke in a nightclub in Vegas, huh?
Is there cigarettes allowed in nightclubs in Vegas?
unidentified
I don't know, but we've smoked in the nightclub before.
Remember we just stepped out that door and we just smoked?
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
But you can't smoke.
joe rogan
That's out that door.
That's outside.
But is it an inside area?
Are you allowed to smoke inside anywhere anymore?
unidentified
I think now it's not.
I'm trying to remember last time.
joe rogan
You can still do it in the casinos because I still see people smoking in the casinos.
everlast
Oh, they're not going to stop that.
joe rogan
They're slowly pulling that out, though.
They're slowly pulling the cigarettes out.
everlast
They're going to fight that tooth in there, though.
joe rogan
I guess the real problem is the people that work there, and I get it, man.
If you're a waitress, why the fuck should you have to breathe that shit in all day?
everlast
Hey, I didn't smoke the cigarette.
A long time.
joe rogan
That's a tricky drug.
unidentified
Yeah, man.
You still think about it?
everlast
Nah, see, because what happened to me was I woke up in the hospital and had emergency heart surgery like 98. So it was like, I was like, oh, I'm done smoking.
Wow.
I didn't even, I mean, like, I still smoke some weed now and then, but like, you know, even for like three years, two years after that, no, about two years after the surgery, I didn't, I was like on some, hell no, I'm alive.
I'm trying to, but I could never sleep because What happened was I went to bed.
I'm real tired.
I'm not feeling good.
Went to sleep and woke up in Cedars.
Like, after surgery.
So, like, my mind was on this, like, don't go to sleep kind of, like, trip.
unidentified
Holy shit.
everlast
For, like, a long time, I was, like, an insomniac, man.
Oh, my God.
But I would let my band guys smoke a little weed up in the front of the bus.
And one night, I just, I was, I couldn't sleep, as usual.
But somebody had something real just, like, reminiscing.
I was like, wow, now, that's something...
Quality up there.
So I went out there just kind of smelling.
I was like, you know what?
Let me just...
And everybody was like, are you sure?
I was like, I'm a grown man.
Let me...
Like that.
That's all I did.
unidentified
Bang.
everlast
I gave it back to him.
I went to the back of the bus.
I slept like a goddamn baby, man.
So it became for like a good long time, few years.
That's all it was.
Right before bed.
unidentified
Ah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
everlast
Sleep like a baby.
joe rogan
A lot of people use it for that.
I know a lot of people that are in silence.
everlast
And then, of course, you know, after a while, you lose that humbleness that almost dying gives you.
And you're out at the club, and somebody's like, I hit the joint before I go to bed.
I'll hit it now.
And the next thing you know, you're smoking weed.
unidentified
It's lucky you had somebody next to you, though, because you just went to sleep.
What if you didn't have somebody next to you?
everlast
Well, apparently there's more to it than that.
During the day, the guys that were making the record with me, we had the studio in my house.
I had a house up in Mount Olympus in Laurel Canyon, and I just built the studio up in there to record the record, and Everybody was living in the house.
And apparently just all day, I just didn't feel well.
And I didn't look well.
And when I went to lay down, I guess somebody came and checked on me just to be like, hey, you alright?
And I guess I was breathing funny.
And they just panicked.
Called the hospital.
It was my extreme fortune to live in a neighborhood that the closest hospital was Cedars-Sinai.
And it was also my...
Irish luck that the best heart surgeon in the world, Dr. William Tranto, who's chief of heart surgery over there, I think maybe even of all surgeries, saw my case and told somebody else, you can't do that, I have to do that.
What happened to me is the same thing that killed John Ritter in like 30 minutes.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
everlast
Same exact thing.
joe rogan
What is it exactly?
everlast
I believe, if I remember correctly, it was called an upper ascending aortic aneurysm.
And what I have in there now is a St. Jude's heart valve.
It's a titanium heart valve.
Like, I tick like a watch, man.
unidentified
Whoa!
everlast
Want to hear?
Hold up.
Get real sensitive on this mug right here.
unidentified
Oh, my God.
joe rogan
Holy shit.
unidentified
Wow.
everlast
Yeah, like 14 years now.
That's like white noise to me.
But I can take my pulse without anything.
I can just...
Holy shit.
unidentified
That's amazing.
joe rogan
You have a titanium valve in your heart.
everlast
Yeah, yeah.
Wow.
unidentified
Is it Bluetooth enabled?
everlast
Dude, you're like a robot.
Bionic rapper, man.
joe rogan
For real, that is kind of crazy, man.
Isn't it amazing that they can do shit like that?
And you've had it in your body for how many years?
everlast
What, in 98?
unidentified
Since February 98. That's amazing.
That freaked me out, man.
joe rogan
That's incredible, dude.
Yeah, I don't know how to react to that.
That's amazing.
everlast
It's alien technology, man.
That's why I love watching your Twitter, dude, because there'll always be some crazy tweet, like some fan will tweet you like, yo, aliens dropped off the cure for cancer at, you know, whatever it is.
joe rogan
Fort Knox.
Yeah, it's flying over some hospital right now.
everlast
Yeah, I'll be like, oh man, I love that, because I know I got alien technology in my body, man.
joe rogan
Titanium.
everlast
I got a titanium heart valve, man.
joe rogan
That's insane.
everlast
How does that work?
joe rogan
Wow, that's amazing.
I mean, imagine trying to explain that to someone 200 years ago.
We're going to cut this dude open and we're going to stick some shit inside there where his shit's broken and it's going to be made out of a metal.
unidentified
Witchcraft.
everlast
You're just a witch.
joe rogan
A rare metal.
Yeah.
unidentified
What?
everlast
You wouldn't even bother trying to comprehend it, man.
You're a witch.
Burn him.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Keep all the bacteria off of them.
How are you going to do that?
That's what the bacteria is there to test the weakness.
You get cut open like that.
It's supposed to attack.
That's nature.
We're subverting the entire system.
Sticking titanium inside of people.
That's amazing.
It's incredible.
everlast
I have to take a blood thinner for the rest of my life so a clot doesn't form around it and break off and go into my brain.
joe rogan
What is the blood thinner?
unidentified
Huh?
joe rogan
What's the blood thinner?
How's that work?
everlast
It's an anticoagulant.
Just a pill that you take that, you know, and I have to like...
joe rogan
Does it make you like bleed more if you get cut?
everlast
Oh yeah, absolutely.
You won't clot as fast.
joe rogan
Wow.
unidentified
Holy shit.
everlast
I had to give up riding my motorcycle and a few other activities of that nature.
joe rogan
Because if you get cut, you just start bleeding out.
everlast
Yeah.
A severe enough cut.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Wow.
Holy shit.
Isn't it amazing how the human body can just be fragile at some points and you have to just deal with some issues?
But when you do, there's a certain humility and a certain respect for life when you've gotten through some bad shit.
Do you feel that?
everlast
The way I try to explain it to people is like most people Unless you're really, you know, highly intelligent and enlightened, which is not what I'm saying I am when I'm about to say what I'm about to say.
I'm just saying some cats just reach death at this point where they're just ready for it and they're ready to cope, you know what I mean?
But most of us probably see death, you know, coming at us.
And, you know, I look at it like a roller coaster, like, you know, going on this roller coaster, you told us the scariest roller coaster of all time and you're waiting to go on it.
And probably the whole time you're waiting to go on that motherfucker, it's probably really scary.
Then you get on it and you ride it once and it's probably really scary.
But then, you know, if you get off it and get right back in line, you know, the wait in line isn't so scary.
And then you get back on the ride again.
It's like, that's what I compare death to.
It's like, I've gone through all the terrifying parts of death thinking it was upon me.
I was like, you know...
Woke up in the hospital, like, you did what to me?
There's this, and I got this scar down my chest.
I'm thinking, you know, it's a wrap.
You know what I mean?
I vaguely remember, like, people talk about a flash of your life flashing before your eyes, but to me it was more of just the some realization of, wow, man, that whole...
28 years was that long.
That's kind of what it was for me.
It wasn't like all these moments.
It was just like the realization that my life was like a second long in the scheme of things.
Wow.
unidentified
That's intense.
joe rogan
It's about as intense as it gets, right?
everlast
It's crazy.
joe rogan
Open heart surgery is about as intense as it gets.
everlast
But I figure like this, the next time death's upon me, all the scary parts.
I've been on this roller coaster.
What comes after that?
joe rogan
It really is a trip that it's facing everyone, but no one wants to bring it up.
everlast
I can't testify either to any lights at the end of any tunnels, but I do also remember hearing, the only way I can describe it is hearing a very familiar voice.
I never really knew any of my grandfather's, but it seemed like a grandfather's type voice.
You ain't ready yet.
It's not your time.
But that didn't go along with a light or a vision or a figure.
All I remember, other than this realization about how short my life was, And my life could have been 90 years and that realization would have been exactly the same, you know what I mean?
But then this kind of blackness and this voice being like, nah, it ain't time or something of that nature.
I can't even say it was words as much as just something communicating that feeling to me.
joe rogan
It's a real trip to think the idea that there is a time for you and there is a place for you and there's a thing that you should be doing.
A lot of people want to think that that's grandiose to think like that.
Oh, you're silly.
everlast
It could have just been the deepest parts of my subconscious fighting for their lives.
Trying to convince me there's a reason to be alive.
There's that part.
I've battled it ever since.
Were those spiritual thoughts?
Or was it Scientific.
Your mind fighting to stay alive.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
The ego playing tricks on you.
everlast
I don't get in no chamber, but I get in my pool often late at night with the lights off and just lay there with it over my ears in silence for a couple...
joe rogan
You would dig an isolation tank.
You would dig the shit out of it, man.
For you it would be beautiful because it's a non-drug drug.
You could just go in there and be healthy and it's great for your body.
And it's very relaxing.
Oh my god, I bet.
everlast
I bet.
joe rogan
Alone in that tank.
You might have the trippiest dreams in there ever.
Because, well, you know what it is.
You know how it works with a little water.
You've never done it before, ever?
everlast
No, I've never actually done it.
joe rogan
Man, you should own one.
You should be in it daily.
It's a beautiful environment.
everlast
What's one of those things going to set me back, proper?
joe rogan
7,000?
everlast
Yeah?
joe rogan
Yeah, for a real good one.
And it'll last forever.
It's got a big, thick lining, like the kind they use to make koi ponds.
It's all heated.
The water, it's beautiful.
It's super reliable and never leaks.
You just turn it on when you want to get in there.
Boom.
Open the door.
Hop in.
After you get out, you turn on the pump.
It's like the most low-maintenance thing.
And man, what an environment that is, bro.
everlast
How often do you do it?
joe rogan
All the time.
everlast
Every day?
joe rogan
As much as I can.
Sometimes I don't like to do it every day because then reality gets a little slippery.
everlast
Is that right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
I spend too much time alone in the tank.
I find myself getting really weird.
I find myself going too fringe with my thoughts.
I get so far deep that it's very difficult to go to the supermarket.
unidentified
Do you not get pruney when you get in it?
You don't come out looking like Mr. Burns or something like that?
joe rogan
No, I think maybe the salt water keeps that from happening.
unidentified
Weird.
joe rogan
You know, the water is really salty.
There's 800 pounds of salt in it.
So it's a different thing when you come out.
You're not all pruned up.
I don't know.
unidentified
That'd be funny if you were.
joe rogan
Even if you were, you just...
unidentified
That's one thing you failed to always mention, that every time you get out, you just look like a fucking E.T. dying.
No.
joe rogan
It's one of those things, whenever I get out of there, I'm like, this is amazing that no one knows about this.
This should be...
They should teach this in school.
They should have people in high school getting in isolation tanks and have people talking to them and coaching them through life.
everlast
You should make one of the Joe Rogan isolation tank.
joe rogan
Too much work, man.
I got no time for that.
everlast
7,000 a pot, man.
It sounds like a lucrative business.
joe rogan
I don't think there's that much profit, to be honest with you.
A lot of it is steel components.
You have to get it manufactured and built.
There's this super fucking jacuzzi system with this incredible filtration system to make sure that no microbes can get in there and fuck with your skin.
And then on top of that, you have to make sure the water stays exactly the same temperature.
It's a lot of technology into it.
unidentified
You know how you could do it?
You have to get it, like, $200 on Amazon, like a portable system that you make out of, like, a box.
joe rogan
Oh, dude, you wouldn't want that.
What if it fucking broke in your living room and fucked up your whole house?
Then I'd be responsible.
No, you don't want that, man.
unidentified
George Foreman of isolation tanks.
joe rogan
That's the thing about a tank, man.
If you're going to get one, it's got to be built correctly.
Someone's got to go in there and do it.
To have a build-it-yourself one, seems to me too much room for error.
unidentified
But, you know, people would buy it.
everlast
My pool works pretty good late at night with the lights off, man.
joe rogan
You get on a floaty?
No, you just...
everlast
I'm buoyant.
joe rogan
Oh, you can float on your back in a pool?
everlast
Pretty much.
joe rogan
Holy shit.
That's amazing.
That's incredible.
I sink like a rock.
I can't do that.
But if you get in that water tank, the isolation tank, then it's beautiful.
everlast
Imagine 800 pounds of salt.
joe rogan
The other thing is that the temperature is perfect.
It's the exact temperature of your skin.
So when you're in there, you fail to be able to, after a while, you don't differentiate between the skin and the air.
everlast
Isn't that also the exact temperature of pee?
joe rogan
Yeah, probably.
It comes out of your body.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
It must be.
unidentified
You just need a garbage bag and just piss yourself and sit inside of it.
joe rogan
Yeah, I try not to pee in the tank, but, you know, sometimes shit happens.
everlast
That might get kind of nasty.
joe rogan
Yeah, you don't want to smell that while you're in there trying to achieve enlightenment.
Smelling your own piss, going, what the fuck is wrong with me?
Sitting there pressing on myself in an isolation tank.
unidentified
Have you ever seen somebody that had a pool that was so badass like they had a lazy river around it?
Can you imagine how badass would that be if you just had a lazy river around like a huge pool?
joe rogan
Yeah, I knew this dude who had this giant pool and he had some crazy fucking slide system built into it like water slides and everything built into the side of his hill.
unidentified
Yeah, but just like a floaty thing where it just goes around and around.
So you can just sit in a little raft and just go in circles.
joe rogan
Like you're on a Disneyland ride?
unidentified
Yeah, like those pools where they have the little lazy river around the whole entire pool.
joe rogan
That would be okay, but I'm telling you, the isolation tank's better.
everlast
I want to meet somebody with a moat.
joe rogan
A moat?
That's the next level shit.
That's like some Prince of Croatia shit.
unidentified
You live in Glendale with a moat?
joe rogan
I know there's no princes in Croatia.
Don't get angry at me, Croatian people.
I love you guys.
Yeah, man.
That's the next level shit, right?
That's after the next zombie apocalypse.
After 2012, people are going to start making moats.
everlast
Yeah, that's why I'm moving out the city.
I'm going to have a moat.
joe rogan
What are you going to try to make this compound?
What are you thinking?
Northern California is a good move.
Northern California is not bad.
Good climate.
Not too hot.
You know, not too cold.
unidentified
Too rainy.
joe rogan
You get a little weather, which keeps you honest.
unidentified
I think it's San Diego.
joe rogan
Little weather's good for people.
Little weather's good for people.
I think people are delusional in California because they never get hit by weather.
They just have no respect for what nature can do to them.
Yeah, it never hits here.
You know when you get here, you get a little bit of rain.
Whip-de-doo.
It's like every now and then it rains.
People here really have no idea what the fuck weather is like.
everlast
Yeah, but we get earthquakes.
joe rogan
Rarely, man.
Rarely.
They're coming.
unidentified
Yeah, they're definitely coming.
And we're all going to be like, why didn't we move?
Just because we ain't paid the tab yet doesn't mean there's not a bill, you know?
joe rogan
Indeed.
But I think earthquakes, by and large, you know, if you don't get trapped under a giant building that crushes your head, by and large.
unidentified
See, I'm thinking San Diego would be close to the biggest Air Force base ever, you know.
That just seems like it would make sense.
joe rogan
San Diego?
unidentified
Yeah, be close to the base.
You know, we'll be the most protected other than being in Los Angeles where everyone's going to fucking die.
joe rogan
Is that what you think?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Why do you think that earthquakes won't hit, like, air force bases?
unidentified
Protected from what?
everlast
Earthquakes?
unidentified
No, no, no, no.
When panic strikes out, or a zombie apocalypse, or when the Martians come.
joe rogan
Zombie apocalypse?
everlast
People actually talk about this.
joe rogan
People are worried about this shit, dude.
People are worried about the fall of civilization.
unidentified
I know, that's what I'm saying.
everlast
Like, Danny Boy listens to, like, that, what radio?
joe rogan
Alex Jones?
everlast
All that stuff.
Yeah.
He's got that iHeartRadio app and he's always listening to that late night, overnight stuff, all the craziness.
He was listening to a show that was actually about zombie apocalypse and zombies and people discussing them.
And I was like, this is real people talking about this.
That's crazy.
joe rogan
It is ridiculous, but could you imagine if it was possible to make a zombie?
unidentified
It could be.
It would probably just be a virus of some kind that we're talking about.
joe rogan
Well, it sounds stupid, but there's way crazier parasites that exist in the world.
You know, every single human being is essentially a symbiote.
Every person has a conglomeration of all sorts of different organisms living inside their body.
And without those, you can't even be alive.
And when you get a parasite, like when a parasite fucks up a body, what that is is a failed symbiote.
It's like it's trying to have a symbiotic relationship with the organism, but it's failing, so it's sucking out too many resources, so it becomes a parasite.
It's not contributing to the overall system.
It is possible that they could come up with something that would hijack your shit so bad that you would be like one of those 28 days later motherfucker.
That is so 100% absolutely possible.
everlast
So we're not speaking of the dead rising.
unidentified
No, no, no.
joe rogan
We're talking about like...
Look, 28 Days Later is a zombie movie.
everlast
I didn't listen to the zombie apocalypse show long enough to figure this out.
I just was like, these people are actually saying things about zombies right now.
joe rogan
Dude, I'm telling you realistic zombie rules.
I'm totally geeking out on zombie rules.
28 Days Later was not a zombie movie in the same thing.
It was a disease that was created.
Was it called Rage or something like that?
And they gave it to chimps and the chimps got out and fucked up a whole city with it?
That's totally possible.
everlast
It is totally possible.
joe rogan
There's a worm that lives inside a grasshopper.
It's an aquatic worm, and it grows in its body.
And then when it gets to the age where it's about to hatch, it talks the grasshopper into drowning itself.
It controls the grasshopper's body, hops the grasshopper over to some water, leaps into it so that it can pop out some aquatic worm.
everlast
Some aquatic worm?
joe rogan
If you Google aquatic worm, grasshopper, parasite.
everlast
Parasite.
joe rogan
Isn't that amazing?
Tricks it into drowning itself.
everlast
That's amazing.
joe rogan
And it can pop out of its little body.
If that's possible, anything's possible.
I know that's a lower organism.
everlast
They've already extracted it and there's a pill.
joe rogan
Yeah, and the guy talking to you is already infected by it.
everlast
We all might be.
joe rogan
That's what I said about clones.
unidentified
I found it on Google.
Yeah, you found the grasshopper thing.
joe rogan
Brainwashed by parasitic worms.
Isn't that amazing, man?
unidentified
Yeah, I have a baby.
everlast
Where is that?
Because I want to go there and just find some drowned...
That's like a fun camping trip.
joe rogan
Well, they're finding out more and more of these parasitic relationships that worms have to people.
everlast
Millions of organisms are living on us as we speak.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's a lot.
everlast
Isn't that beard of yours right there?
This one or mine?
joe rogan
I'm sure.
everlast
Little bugs that are actually probably helping out keeping it clean and shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, exactly, right?
unidentified
Scrubbing bubbles.
joe rogan
That's what the whole deal of acidophilus is, right?
everlast
I won't lie, though, man.
In my mind, that brings me straight to bed bugs.
That whole outbreak in the East Coast.
joe rogan
I was shook.
everlast
I was not wanting to go to any hotels.
I was like, man, I ain't trying to bring bed bugs home.
joe rogan
I know.
Can you imagine that?
They get in your clothes and shit and you're fucked.
It's just crazy.
They're multiplying your house.
Oh, and you've got to get it defumed.
everlast
That's why it's easy to believe all that, how quickly.
You know, it's like people trip on, oh, the nuclear this, nuclear that.
No, it's going to be a little germ that gets all of us, man.
joe rogan
It could be easily.
It could be.
There's been threats of it for, you know, who knows how long.
I mean, every time.
One of the things that hits everybody, like when the swine flu came out, or the bird flu, or anything that comes out, is like, this might be the one we're all scared of.
Because we all know that it's possible.
The one superbug that comes along.
everlast
Well, they got us convinced of that, at least, and they use every opportunity they can to try whatever new vaccine they got out on us.
unidentified
Exactly.
Like, how are we going to sterilize these folks once and for all?
joe rogan
Yeah, what the fuck?
everlast
The chemtrails aren't working fast enough.
joe rogan
Are you a believer in chemtrails?
I... It's not past them, right?
everlast
It's not past.
No, that's how I look at it all.
I mean, like, I look at it like the cats who, like, you know, if you want to even take the 9-11, there's cats that'll be like, there's no way we did this.
I was like, well, there's proof that the very least we knew something was supposed to happen just like that.
Hijacked airplanes.
There was reports that they were going to try and do this, and nothing was done extra to stop it.
That's kind of a passive participation at the very least.
So, I don't see past anything.
All the horror and all this, I love it.
I love reading about it and learning about it and giving it just enough consideration to be like, it could be true.
I'm not living by it, but I'm watching to be like, okay, if some crazy scenario breaks out in the world where people just can't breathe anymore, there might be something to these stories.
joe rogan
Yeah, you would have to think of why would they be doing it.
There's got to be a profit to it.
You got to talk somebody into doing it.
I think for sure there have been some chemtrail experiments.
I don't think that's doubted at all.
I think people are well aware there's been some shit, but the real question is like, how much are they doing on a regular basis?
I don't think they're spraying cities.
everlast
I go a lot of places and see them everywhere.
joe rogan
Do you think they're spraying people?
Do you think they're trying to control the population?
everlast
When I was young, that was just a jet going by.
The smoke didn't stick around all day.
joe rogan
One of my favorite videos online for ridiculousness is Prince sitting down with Dick Gregory and he's talking about how...
I think it's Dick Gregory.
He's talking about how there's chemtrails and they fly over the hood and then all of a sudden everybody starts fighting.
And he goes, and I saw these planes fly over and I was thinking, God, why is everybody fighting?
You know, like, what the fuck are you talking about?
You're in the hood.
Like, what do you expect?
Do you think the plane's flying overhead?
Is there spraying fighting juice down on the people?
everlast
It's not the poverty.
joe rogan
It's not the poverty or the rage or the criminal element that's throughout your community.
everlast
Or the police.
joe rogan
Yeah, or all sorts of corrupt shit that's going on, right?
No, it's this plane that's spraying some shit down and all of a sudden everybody's getting upset.
That's ridiculous.
It's a hilarious video.
brian redban
I think we need to look into those green boxes that you used to have in your backyard that hummed, that were really warm.
Because I used to, as a kid, lay on those things for probably years.
joe rogan
What are those things?
everlast
I don't even know what you're talking about.
brian redban
Well, in the Midwest, or I guess in the suburbs, not in Los Angeles, they used to have these green boxes that were like energy plants or something like that.
unidentified
I don't know what they were.
And they hummed.
And they were super warm.
brian redban
And I remember just sitting out there as a kid for hours on it like I was recharging.
And I probably got, I don't know, More data bites or something.
unidentified
I don't know.
What is that thing?
joe rogan
You've done so many things when you were little that could have made you a moron.
unidentified
I know.
What is that thing?
I think everyone did that.
joe rogan
I don't know what you're talking about, first of all.
unidentified
I'll show you a picture of one.
everlast
I'm not familiar.
joe rogan
Yeah.
An energy source.
unidentified
It's like a weird box.
joe rogan
He lived in some test community with their own nuclear power plants in their backyards.
Yeah, Columbus High is the number one more cancer cluster.
A little marble-sized nuclear reactors.
brian redban
It was a test market town, so we had banana frosties before everyone.
joe rogan
You were a test market town?
unidentified
Yes, Columbus, Ohio.
brian redban
They would test us out burgers, and I would talk to my cousins that live in a different state, and they're like, we don't have that kind of weird burger at McDonald's.
unidentified
What are you talking about?
brian redban
And I found out that the company's test market at Columbus, Ohio, because that's the most average city in the whole entire world.
unidentified
Country.
joe rogan
That makes sense.
Columbus is like that.
They're like the whitest people on earth.
everlast
It's kind of almost pretty close to the middle too, isn't it?
joe rogan
Columbus?
unidentified
Sure.
Did you ever hear about Sisters Chicken?
brian redban
That was Wendy's version of KFC that they were trying out.
And it was just three old ladies was the logo.
And it was like KFC's Wicked Sisters.
And I don't think it worked the last two years or something.
joe rogan
Never heard of it.
That's a good idea.
unidentified
Yeah.
I'll show you the green box though.
everlast
The green box.
joe rogan
The green box that fucked you up.
Another thing that happened to him, he was living in an apartment, and there was a duct overhead, like a heating duct, where the hot air would come through.
Turns out that wasn't what that was.
Somebody had hooked up the wrong thing to the gas furnace, and it was blowing straight carbon dioxide from the gas furnace.
everlast
No.
joe rogan
Yes.
Yeah, he lived like that for a year.
unidentified
Okay, here's the...
everlast
How did you not blow up?
joe rogan
He's dead.
unidentified
He's dead on the inside.
I died a long time ago.
Here's the green box.
joe rogan
And it makes him stutter now.
everlast
Green box.
unidentified
These things.
I've seen similar things, but like on the corners of intersections.
Yeah, we had one in our backyard, and I would just sit there and get data bytes pumped into me as a child.
joe rogan
Well, obviously, that has something to do with electricity.
That has something to do with electricity.
Yeah, that's not good.
unidentified
But we didn't have the warning labels.
Like, this one has a nice warning label.
Like, it says something on it.
Like, hey, don't even get close to this.
joe rogan
Have they ever made a connection, a correlation between living near power, like those big giant towers?
You know, those electrical towers?
everlast
Cancer clusters.
unidentified
Yeah.
everlast
That's what they, you know, yeah.
joe rogan
They have made a correlation.
everlast
Well, no.
It's one of the things where you can find both sides that will have equally compelling arguments that they're right.
So that means, no, there has been no definitive.
But, I mean, it kind of breaks down to kind of common sense a little bit.
If you're camped under these things that are like...
unidentified
Jesus Christ, you're scared of me just thinking about that.
everlast
With power lines, I mean...
joe rogan
There's so much fucking power going through there.
everlast
Have you noticed, though, most schools or public parks are kind of right under those.
joe rogan
Right under those, yeah.
That's the only free spot that was available.
everlast
That's cheap land.
unidentified
Yeah.
everlast
There it is.
unidentified
That's where we'll put the school.
joe rogan
Yeah, man, when you drive by those things and you can hear them, you roll down your window and you hear...
everlast
How about the heavy-duty ones, you know what I mean?
The big iron towers with cables like this.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
everlast
Dude, I saw a show about that once, man, where the guys are on helicopters, they have to do the maintenance for those lines.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
everlast
They actually have to make a connection...
To the line, like, with the helicopter to ground it before they can start working with their parents.
Like, one of the most dangerous jobs you could have.
That might have been the show I was watching, like, life's most dangerous jobs.
Those dudes are nuts, man.
unidentified
Motherfucker.
everlast
They're, like, in metal suits.
unidentified
Oh, Jesus.
It's nuts, man.
joe rogan
Just think of what you must be feeling when you're above one of those things and you know that just touching it, just reaching out and touching it, you just essentially explode.
everlast
And they're grabbing it.
They're doing maintenance on it.
They're fixing it.
unidentified
The connectors that keep them together, they're fixing them.
joe rogan
You have to trust it.
You have to trust in the science.
everlast
They have another piece of the helicopter that they have to come out and it has to touch the wire while they're working on it.
Apparently one of the most common things isn't getting electrocuted.
It's that the tail of the helicopter hits the wire and they just go into oblivion.
joe rogan
Of course, if they get hit with a gust, it's almost impossible for them to stop.
everlast
It's apparently one of the craziest, most dangerous jobs.
joe rogan
If you had to do that kind of maintenance...
everlast
I was really high watching that.
I was just like, that's crazy, man.
I think I was on the back of the tour bus just like 18-hour drive just watching whatever was on, but I stumbled across that.
I was like, oh, I'm watching this.
unidentified
Joe, here's the helicopter thing right here, actually.
joe rogan
That's you singing.
What are you doing?
unidentified
Before I got on the helicopter.
joe rogan
Brian, what's wrong with you?
unidentified
That's...
everlast
Yeah, this might have been the show.
unidentified
Yeah, that's to say, that was me before getting on it.
everlast
Yeah, watch this, dawg.
joe rogan
These guys are nuts, man.
everlast
They're in like these crazy suits.
One guy's gotta touch the wire.
joe rogan
Oh my god, this is insane.
Oh my god, he has to climb up.
He climbs up and he's sitting in a harness on top of the fucking wires.
Brian, why'd you mix this together?
Brian made this video himself.
unidentified
Yeah, this is an old music video.
I had to mix with that stuff in it, though.
joe rogan
Oh my God, but look at that guy walking on those wires.
That is absolutely horrifying.
everlast
That's crazy, man.
unidentified
And I got all of Garden Breadsticks right there.
everlast
Half a million volts?
Isn't that what that is?
joe rogan
Is that what it is?
How much will kill you?
How much does it take?
everlast
A lot less than that.
joe rogan
A lot less, yeah.
That's like, that would incinerate you, right?
Wouldn't you just explode or something?
everlast
Yeah, but he's grounded somehow.
Like, he's, like, grounded.
Like, I watched the whole thing high, man.
It was amazing.
unidentified
Whew.
everlast
And they were charged.
Those dudes were on some adrenaline junkie shit.
joe rogan
Oh, they must be.
everlast
They're like, this is the greatest job.
joe rogan
Well, could you imagine if it was doing something to them?
What if it was making them super power and they started winning the Olympics and shit?
everlast
That's how the whole X-Men thing starts.
The whole...
It might have been me.
joe rogan
Was that really?
No, that had to be you, Brian, wasn't it?
everlast
It was pretty loud.
joe rogan
It was so loud.
everlast
I'll tell you right now.
It wasn't me.
joe rogan
It's not me.
My shit's not even on.
unidentified
Alright, well, I'm just glad I'm not the guy who did it.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Anyway, where were we?
everlast
We were talking about how that's where the mutations start.
Where the X-Men begin is on them lines right there.
joe rogan
One time, when I used to do Fear Factor, I would eat pot candies or something before the show just to kind of keep me in a chill but happy and fun mood all day.
Sometimes you're sitting around all day and it's boring.
And if you don't got a buzz, it doesn't feel as good.
It sounds interesting.
But one of the days I showed up, every now and then when something would freak me out, I would show up at work and I'd be a little baked, and they'd tell me what we're going to do.
And one of the things they told me is we're going to have these people ride bulls.
unidentified
And I was like, oh, this is a terrible, terrible, terrible idea.
joe rogan
Like, when you're high and they're telling you you're going to ride a bull, you're like, oh, no, sir.
No, no, I'm not getting on that thing.
What is this?
unidentified
We're going to do what?
joe rogan
You're going to make people do that?
You're going to get them to get on that animal?
That's fucking crazy.
The only time when we ever did that show where I felt like we were totally rolling the dice, hoping nobody got hurt, that was the only time, was we made them ride bulls.
Because, like, you can't protect them from that fucking animal.
You can only, you know, you can only say so much.
We're going to try.
We're going to try to keep it from stomping you.
But we can't guarantee you.
We'll give you a chest plate and a helmet, but you've got to let it, imagine you're letting the bulls bore you.
unidentified
Signed bands first.
joe rogan
Yeah, with a chest plate and a helmet, go, come get me.
I've got a chest plate and a helmet on.
Oh my God, you'd feel so fragile.
everlast
Hell yeah.
joe rogan
We got lucky with that one.
One girl, she was 98 pounds, something, maybe?
She was on this bull, and she agreed to do it.
I'm like, you're sure?
And she goes, yeah, I'm gonna do it.
I'm gonna go for it.
She got on the fucking bull.
She lasted for just a couple of seconds, of course, right?
The bull launches her through the air.
She goes flying and just barely misses her with a kick.
Just barely misses her.
And I just would think about, like, what a ridiculous thing.
We could have got this little girl kicked in the head for some stupid reality show, you know?
And she, like...
everlast
How much bread was it at the end of the show?
joe rogan
50 grand if you want.
She falls down.
She was okay.
everlast
Isn't it funny though, dude?
Like, not to belittle money, but isn't it funny what people will do for so little money?
joe rogan
Well, they do it for fun, too.
A lot of them, they do it just, you know, there's people that do it and they think that they're going to be able to eventually get some sort of a career in reality TV. That's even more funny to me.
Well, you know, people have done it.
everlast
Even though it's actually turned into that.
joe rogan
I know.
It is weird.
But you know what I'm saying?
Like, as long as they're nice people, I don't give a fuck, you know?
You could start weirding out about what people watch and don't watch.
And I've gone down that road before.
Like, what the fuck is wrong with us?
Why are we watching the Kardashians?
But, you know, the other part of me is like, who gives a fuck?
everlast
Well, they're hoping she's going to suck another dick soon.
joe rogan
She's done, man.
The only way she would suck another dick is she would have to drop drastically in the ratings to make another sex tape.
It would be really hard to get her to put one out now.
everlast
But, you know, it's like a NASCAR race.
They're not waiting for the end.
They're waiting for the crash.
joe rogan
Here's my prediction.
The next sex tape won't be her getting fucked.
It would be a dude eating her pussy for like a half an hour.
That's it.
That's a sex tape.
And then she releases that one.
Whoopsies.
That got out.
And that would kick her back up to the next level.
If she was like crying at a press conference, I can't believe this.
This was so personal.
I used that image to masturbate to when I'm on the road.
My assistant stole it from my laptop.
You know?
That could be her next level shit.
She might have to do that in about two years.
Because now people are making...
Kardashian jokes are probably the number one joke on Twitter.
If you're going to make a joke about the Kardashians...
It's so low-hanging fruit.
It's so easy.
I saw that movie Young Adult last night.
The Patton Oswalt.
Throughout the whole movie, you know what it's about?
Charlize Theron and Patton Oswalt.
It's fucking really funny.
And really brilliant.
Like a brilliant movie.
But one of the things is the chick who's the crazy chick, Charlize Theron, all she watches is Kim Kardashian.
She just watches it.
Every time you're seeing her at home, she's just sitting in front of the TV watching Kim Kardashian and her sister talk with this mindless glaze in her eye.
unidentified
That's hilarious.
joe rogan
You're like, holy fuck, that is America, man.
Those people are responsible for that fucking signal that they're putting out there, man.
If anybody's turning people into zombies...
But this whole movie, throughout the whole movie, this crazy bitch, Charlize Theron is obsessed with her high school boyfriend, is just watching the Kardashians on TV. It's a good movie, man.
It's a really, like, the ending's kind of weird.
unidentified
Is it, like, in the movie theaters movie?
joe rogan
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I saw it last night.
It's a good movie.
It's fucking...
Patton Oswalt's a bad motherfucker.
everlast
He's funny, man.
joe rogan
He's gonna do the podcast again soon.
unidentified
Has he even done it?
joe rogan
No.
Did I say again soon?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oops.
Do it soon.
unidentified
We need to get him on it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
everlast
Yeah, that movie that he did with, what, Galifianakis and the guy with the glasses, the comedians of comedy.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
unidentified
Our buddy filmed that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
everlast
That whole thing, man, is hilarious, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, those guys are awesome.
There's a bunch of real good stand-ups right now.
It's a good time for stand-up comedy.
everlast
They're all starting to break through, too.
Like, you know, of course, Zach.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
everlast
There's some Patton Oswalt everywhere lately.
joe rogan
Well, Zach Galifianakis is one of those guys that I can't help smile when I'm watching him.
He's like one of those guys where I see him doing something stupid in the movie.
Even though, what was it?
Due date or something like that?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It wasn't the best movie in the world, but I'm watching him, and he makes me smile.
He's just so ridiculous, you know?
unidentified
Brody stole the whole movie.
joe rogan
You think so?
Yeah.
unidentified
I love the little Brody hiding.
brian redban
Like, out of nowhere, you'll find our friend Brody Stevens.
He's friends with Zack, so every time Zack does a movie or does anything, Zack throws him in as, like, these little roles and stuff, and every role, it's almost playing, like, where's Waldo for Brody Stevens?
unidentified
Like, oh, there he is.
He's a police guy.
Whoops.
joe rogan
Why do you have a Google page?
unidentified
I forgot to switch it back to my camera.
joe rogan
You start tripping me the fuck out, dude.
I'm like, what's your point?
everlast
This whole thing is starting to trip me out.
The cartoon is over here.
joe rogan
It's very distracting.
everlast
There's a TV over here where my face, like, I'll turn and my face will be on it.
It'll startle me and then I'll look back and it'll be like some other thing.
joe rogan
Some goatsy image.
Yeah, this is the next level of ADD type shit for people.
Just the conversation alone is too boring, man.
everlast
They have like 18 screens going, dude.
He was showing me earlier, he was just watching random strangers play video games.
unidentified
Yeah, on live.
joe rogan
He does that.
He'll go and watch video games.
everlast
He showed me the homepage and I was like, that's the fucking Matrix.
Look at it, dude.
unidentified
Yeah, it's like, what game do you want to spy on?
Women's Tennis?
everlast
Look, all those people are in the fucking computer right now, and they're all playing games.
joe rogan
Pretty nuts, right?
everlast
And most of them are trying to kill each other.
unidentified
Exactly.
joe rogan
Isn't that nuts?
And, you know, this is only step one.
What's it going to look like a hundred years from now?
unidentified
Oh, it's going to be Trone Warfare, dude.
What was your go-to video game back in the day when you played a lot of games?
everlast
The last one?
I was kind of a SOCOM freak.
Because I like seeing the guy, like the character.
I don't like where all you see is the hands and the gun.
I like seeing the little guy running around.
I don't want to feel like I'm actually killing people.
I want to know there's a game going on.
unidentified
Have you played Gears of War?
That's kind of like that.
everlast
I think one of the first versions I might have played, when I got married and had a kid, man, it was a wrap.
The video games are like...
joe rogan
You can't justify video games.
everlast
It's hard.
joe rogan
And the video games to me, I always say, I'm always terrified that I'm going to become addicted to them.
I'm terrified.
They're too good, man.
Video games these days.
everlast
I think by the time I'm an old man and retire, I could just sit around and it should be crazy by then.
It'd be like three-dimensional surround sound.
joe rogan
You're going to pierce your own brain.
You're going to pierce your own tempo with some things.
everlast
What was that?
What was that crazy Christopher Walken movie with the brain stuff with Natalie Wood?
joe rogan
Oh, shit.
What was that movie?
Yeah.
everlast
Dream something.
Dreamscape.
Is that what it was?
joe rogan
Dreamscape?
everlast
Yeah.
joe rogan
Wow.
Do you know that there's new questions about Natalie Wood and her husband?
everlast
Yeah, a month or so ago.
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
Just recently.
everlast
Robert Wagner whacked her, dude.
joe rogan
Robert Wagner whacked her, man.
Well, that's what this guy's saying.
unidentified
Yeah, but they saw him on Today Show, I think he was on.
everlast
He was also selling a book.
You know that, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, he was selling a book in which he said that Robert Wagner killed her.
He said he heard a bunch of fighting, he heard violence, and then he heard silence.
Yeah.
unidentified
What's that guy's name again?
Do you know the guy?
joe rogan
The guy who's writing the book?
unidentified
Robert Wagner.
I'm sorry.
joe rogan
Robert Wagner.
Yeah.
Robert Wagner and Natalie Wood.
unidentified
Heart to heart.
I got to find you this video.
brian redban
It's going to trip you out.
joe rogan
Why?
unidentified
This guy asked this question to the guy that's selling the book.
brian redban
He asked the same question like seven times in a row.
And it got to the point where it was like a joke, like a Saturday Night Live skit.
unidentified
He's like, okay, last time, same question.
And he kept on doing it.
joe rogan
So the guy wouldn't answer?
unidentified
I'll show it to you.
everlast
I think I might have seen this too.
joe rogan
Does he sound like a crazy person?
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
I need to hear that.
You always need to hear that.
Whenever someone's accusing somebody of killing somebody...
everlast
While he's doing that real quick, in one of your stand-up specials, dude, you talk about that video about the horse that...
joe rogan
Yes, Mr. Hands.
everlast
Did you ever see the documentary they made?
unidentified
Yes, Zoo.
everlast
I saw that not too long ago.
I was like, that's Joe's joke!
That's what Joe's joke was about!
joe rogan
I had to watch the whole freaking thing.
They changed the law because of that dude.
everlast
It was just crazy, dawg.
It was just like...
Seeing these people being interviewed and speaking about their little zoophilia or whatever they call it.
joe rogan
It was sort of a documentary.
It was sort of like a performance documentary where they had actors play roles.
everlast
Oh, was it?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Because the guy's dead.
He was in through a lot of it.
There was a real sneaky way they did that documentary.
But what it did was it forced them to change the law there.
People were moving there so they could fuck animals legally.
That's what these people did.
They met online.
They met in a chatroom.
They said, I like fucking animals.
I'm just going to put that out there.
And then everybody's like, damn, I like animals fucking me.
Let's do this.
Let's move in together.
And they moved in together.
And they got an area where they all lived.
And they would go to a farm and film.
They had hundreds of hours of guys getting fucked by donkeys and horses.
everlast
That shit was crazy, man.
joe rogan
Insane, man.
unidentified
Here's the video right here.
joe rogan
It just lets you know, man, that there's always going to be someone who's taking a beeper.
unidentified
I can't answer that question right now.
And why not?
You're referring to mistakes you made.
Have you changed your story from when you spoke to investigators years ago?
I did lie on a report years ago.
And what did you lie about then?
It was just that I made mistakes by not telling the honest truth in a police report.
Well, just be specific.
I mean, we've talked about the broad outlines of the story.
What is it that you were untruthful about?
Just everything that took place that weekend.
Was the fight between Natalie Wood and her husband, Robert Wagner, what ultimately led to her death?
Yes.
How so?
everlast
If I tell you that, you won't buy my book.
unidentified
Like I said, that's going to be up to the investigators to decide.
The point you're making is that it's because of information in the book, information that you're bringing to them, that they would be reopening this investigation.
Is it your charge that in fact Robert Wagner...
He essentially tried to make this a low-profile investigation, did not do everything he could to try to find her once she went missing after their argument?
Yes, it was to be kept a low-profile investigation.
So you're saying that Wagner did not do everything he should have done to look for her after she went missing?
Exactly.
Was he responsible for her death in some way?
Well, like I said, I think we all made mistakes that night.
Mr. Daven, that wasn't my question.
Was he responsible for her death?
I'm not asking about your story.
Yes, I would say so, yes.
How so?
I really don't want to get involved in answering that question right now.
Well, how can you come on national television, sir, and accuse him of something like that, but not back it up?
Well, that's up to the investigators.
That's actually not the video I was talking about, but that's still pretty interesting.
joe rogan
Well, yeah, he sounds like there's definitely something missing.
Something's ticking when it should be talking and talking when it should be ticking, right?
unidentified
He's off.
everlast
He's trying to sell his book.
I mean, I'm not saying...
joe rogan
Yeah, that's all he's doing, right?
everlast
He ain't nothing being speculated about that wasn't speculated about the day she went drowned.
joe rogan
Yeah, exactly.
Well, didn't William Shatner's wife, like, turn up, drown too?
everlast
That was in his pool.
joe rogan
Oh, shit.
everlast
Wasn't that in his backyard?
joe rogan
Hard to drown somebody in a pool.
Yeah, what happened?
everlast
Nothing to William Shatner.
I think he was out of town.
joe rogan
That's a good move.
everlast
So he did it right.
joe rogan
We're not insinuating any, or whatever.
Yeah, that guy, I'm not buying that.
everlast
You're a comedian and you have to explain that to people.
joe rogan
Yeah, you do.
This is a sad world we live in.
unidentified
That's, wow.
joe rogan
Remember when you can say retard without any repercussions?
everlast
You know what's funny is, like, you know Colin Quay?
joe rogan
Sure.
everlast
Like, I think he's a pretty funny dude.
joe rogan
Hilarious.
everlast
Sometimes he says some real outrageous shit, right?
And he gets under people's feathers, but, like, he'll say something about, like, when Kim Jong-il died or something, and, like, I love him because he just retweets every stupid, hateful thing that gets sent to him.
unidentified
But it's like these people are really saying, like, how could you say something like that?
everlast
Don't you realize you're following a comedian?
And a real smart-ass, sarcastic one at that?
I was like, it just blows my mind how literal people are.
joe rogan
Well, one of the things that was catching news was that he was accusing Will Ferrell of stealing the movie Anchorman from him and talking about the really bad, bad drugs that Will was doing.
I mean, it's just so...
Reads like a goddamn Colin Quinn punchline.
The really bad, bad drugs that he was doing.
You know, and people bought into it, man.
It was becoming news.
everlast
I don't even get it.
joe rogan
You dummies.
You silly fucks.
We live in a more and more literal world.
unidentified
He goes on marathons to see how quickly how many people can drop him or something.
everlast
Like, his number will fluctuate.
unidentified
I look at his number as much as his tweets just because it's funny.
everlast
Like, who did he piss off today?
joe rogan
Yeah, Colin Quinn is an underappreciated genius.
He's one of the funniest guys I've ever seen.
everlast
I think it's funny when people listen to comedians and then a comedian actually has to say once in a while, like, yo, these are jokes.
We're not serious.
joe rogan
Well, Colin's style of smart-ass-y, really smart comedy is so unusual, man.
I hardly ever get the sense...
It's hard for us to see each other unless we're like...
If I just happen to be in a town where someone's doing a set, I'll stop in and watch them do a full set, or if I catch a special...
But other than that, you know, I'm in one town, they're in another.
It's hard to see him, so I did a tough crowd once, and it was like one of the first times I got to see Colin do like a long set, and he did it in front of all of his fans, you know, because they're all...
So he would like warm up the crowd.
God damn, he was good.
He was really good.
Like, it's like when you see him like tight, like...
Colin Quinn's a bad motherfucker.
He doesn't get nearly enough respect.
He's so self-deprecating that people just, for whatever reason, I don't know what it is.
He's too smart.
It's whatever it is.
His frequency, it's too good for some people to figure out.
everlast
The world's getting a little too dumb is what it is.
unidentified
Is that what it is?
joe rogan
Is it really that bad?
Isn't there a way to snap us out of this, man?
everlast
That's another thing about one of the things you did a couple years ago.
I don't know if it was the same special, but it was about when all the smart people died.
It's like, yo, that day's coming, man.
joe rogan
It's possible.
everlast
It's coming.
joe rogan
It is possible.
everlast
And I thought Mike Judge might have ripped you off a little bit with that Idiocracy movie.
joe rogan
Maybe, but I don't think I'm the only one who's ever had that thought.
I think other people have been thinking that people are being stupider and stupider.
everlast
I'm just saying a little bit.
I've ripped off a lot of chords from a lot of songs, man.
It's not always...
joe rogan
Listen, I met Mike Judge.
He didn't seem guilty when I met him, so...
He probably didn't write it anyway.
unidentified
I love him.
everlast
I love that movie.
I'm just saying, this seems like something...
This seems kind of like that premise.
joe rogan
Yeah, I should have got that special out earlier.
Actually, the special was out before Idiocracy.
everlast
That's my point.
That's what I'm saying.
joe rogan
The special was out in 2005. Idiocracy was 2006. But I had been redoing that bit for a couple of years.
That bit came from one mushroom trip.
One mushroom trip where I just sat and looked at the whole progression of the human race and that it was some sort of a crazy fight between overpopulation of stupid people and like packets of really intelligent people figuring out matter itself to the point of You know, total, complete complexity where they blow up the whole universe and we restart all over again.
But that all came from a mushroom trip.
Then I started thinking about how ridiculous it was that I put all my faith, my food, the warmth and the cold of my family, all in the hands of things that I totally don't understand.
I just hit switches.
I haven't researched them.
I don't know what the fuck powers them.
I have no idea the science behind it.
I don't know.
I just open the refrigerator, take some milk, pour a glass.
I don't know how the fuck this milk has been able to sit in my refrigerator for a week and not turn it into rotten cheese.
You know what I mean?
But it's been pulverized through some crazy machine that I'll never be able to understand.
Gotten to the point where all the bacteria is broken down so you can store it in your refrigerator that you don't understand.
Some box that keeps shit cold.
And that's the only way we can all live like this.
The only way we can all live like this and nobody understands it.
And then I just had that...
The bit just sort of wrote itself.
everlast
I tell everybody.
Everybody gets on these tangents about nuclear bombs and...
And even viruses, which is perfectly logical.
But I'm saying all it really would take would be let the lights go out for a week.
And let's see where we are as a civilization when everything stops working.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, it's not good, man.
You know, a person's real, true character comes out in a situation where everything gets tested.
And a lot of people never get tested.
They just never get tested through their life.
They coast through with a boring but easy job, and they go to sleep, and they get up, and they do it all over again, and the shit never hits the fan.
And if shit does hit the fan...
everlast
What happens when you need to know how to shoot a deer?
unidentified
Exactly.
everlast
You shot the deer.
joe rogan
Right.
everlast
What do you do now?
joe rogan
Can you find it now?
How far did it run?
Can you follow blood trails?
everlast
And once, okay, wait, you shot it, you found it, it's dead.
joe rogan
Okay, even then.
everlast
Now what?
joe rogan
Right, yeah, gut it, quarter it.
How do you keep the meat good?
everlast
Exactly.
joe rogan
Yeah, meat's only good for a few hours, man.
What are you going to do?
everlast
Unless you get it cut up, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, you got to cut it out, get it in the refrigerator.
unidentified
Cleaned.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, it's nuts, man.
The process is so simple now.
We go to a supermarket.
It's like we've accelerated everything to the point where it's ridiculous.
You can get meat like that.
Who would have ever thought that you could just step out into the street, walk a block, and get a fucking...
unidentified
Fat, thick, juicy ribeye steak.
Perfectly cut, like perfectly aged, right ready to go.
joe rogan
You do no preparation whatsoever.
Just say, I'll take that.
Boom.
You take it home.
There's fire.
unidentified
Boom.
joe rogan
And you're cooking it in like seconds.
everlast
If you're really impatient, there's nuclear technology right there in your kitchen ready to cook your food.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can microwave the fuck out of it and just eat it then, right?
It's amazing.
It's amazing what we've come to in such a short period of human history.
everlast
It's alien technology, man.
joe rogan
Do you think so?
everlast
Trust me, I've got to live my body, man.
I'm part alien now.
joe rogan
Do you believe in aliens for reals?
everlast
Again, one of those things that I put up to, it's like, I can't not believe in aliens.
I can't sit here and tell you, I know there's aliens and I've seen them.
But it's like, alright, every one of those lights up there is a sun.
Odds are there's got to be another branch of intelligence.
joe rogan
It just seems ridiculous to think that there wouldn't be.
It seems like we've already figured out that things are recreated all over the galaxies, like gas giants, rocky planets, planets in the Goldilocks zone, planets with water, planets without water.
We can apparently read their atmosphere somehow or another.
They can figure that shit out.
I don't know how.
But they can figure out what temperature a planet is...
Thousands of light years away.
It's a strange, strange thing.
I don't know how the fuck they do it, but they found a lot of planets like this.
A lot.
So there's got to be some other shit.
There's got to be some other shit.
It's 100%.
everlast
And then you get into the whole interdimensional speaking of what if we're dealing with dimensional aspects.
Your brain could blow up.
You've got to be hard to think about some of this stuff.
joe rogan
You know, it's funny, but all we do by ridiculing any of that shit is we're just trying to control reality.
Even the ridiculous part that we understand as is, the ridiculous part of us being a part of a galaxy, and that galaxy is a part of the universe, the universe being one part of one universe, and there's an infinite amount of universes, like just all these nutty, nutty, that we know to be true, like wrapping our heads around infinity and the ideas.
We know that to be true.
We don't want to go any further than that.
You start introducing new shit.
You start introducing aliens.
I got no room.
I got no room for your crazy alien talk.
It's almost like the reality that we're absorbing as it is is so baffling and so fucking crazy that we're almost unwilling to look at anything that's more confusing.
everlast
Not to mention that then the powers that be have also mixed this magical thing called religion into the whole thing.
If a ship full of aliens actually came and landed in full view of everybody, that fucks up a lot of people's, like, belief systems.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's over.
everlast
It really does, you know what I mean?
joe rogan
It would be interesting, like, who would, like, jockey first to try to, like, get cool with the aliens, like the Catholic Church, and the aliens have made peace, and, you know.
everlast
You know, next thing you know, it's Jesus was an alien.
joe rogan
Yeah, it could be.
everlast
He was the first and true and only alien, you know what I mean?
joe rogan
It becomes this whole war of, like, They drop off a new gospel.
everlast
Yeah, they're bringing us a new gospel.
joe rogan
It's a floating USB card.
everlast
It says all the other religions are to be wiped out.
joe rogan
That would be so easy, man.
Could you imagine if you were from another planet and you had some super dope technology and you want to come out and you knew the history of the religions.
Okay, what's the number one religion most popular?
Is it Christianity, Islam?
It's one of those.
Okay, well this is what we do.
Then we're going to come down with one guy that has both of those religions in his history and he's going to do some fucking magic and he's going to take over the planet.
everlast
There you go.
joe rogan
That's all you'd have to do.
everlast
Not even magic to them.
joe rogan
Not even magic.
everlast
Levitating, that's natural.
They can do that.
joe rogan
Can you imagine just landing a helicopter a thousand years ago, just going back and landing a fucking helicopter and seeing people freak out and run for cover?
What kind of a world are we going to be living in in just another decade, just another 20 years, just another 50 years?
everlast
In a thousand years, you could have just broke out a flashlight and got that effect.
unidentified
Yeah, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, no shit.
The fire's contained.
Piss magic.
Yeah, everybody had fire.
That's what they had for...
everlast
That was cutting-edge technology right there, man.
A fire and a knife.
You were good.
You were caught up with the Joneses.
joe rogan
Right, because electricity is only a couple hundred years old, right?
When was electricity?
everlast
Late 1800s?
joe rogan
Yeah, Tesla, right?
That was the beginning of the...
everlast
On a mass level?
Maybe not even until the early 1900s.
joe rogan
Yeah, wow.
That's amazing.
They were using fire to keep things lit.
unidentified
Candles and shit.
everlast
If you wasn't in the city...
unidentified
Kites to charge their phones.
joe rogan
That really makes Leonardo da Vinci, some of his shit, even more impressive.
That he did that shit by candlelight.
Think about the 16th chapel.
Think of doing that shit with candles.
You know?
God damn.
Motherfucker had fire.
He was lit by fire.
And he was still motivated enough to do that.
everlast
On his back.
joe rogan
On his back.
everlast
However many years.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
How long did that take?
unidentified
I don't know.
everlast
It had to take a couple years.
joe rogan
That's one of the great artworks of humankind.
everlast
It's not longer.
I'm sure I'm underestimating.
joe rogan
Can you imagine all the other dudes who were trying to be artists back in the days of Leonardo da Vinci?
Guys like...
I thought they were pretty badass.
I'm working on some pretty cool pieces.
I'm pretty proud of it.
I think I'm kind of the shit.
Oh, yeah?
You knew that Leonardo da Vinci dude?
Yeah, he's been painting the ceiling for three years on his back.
This shit's brilliant.
everlast
And inventing the helicopter in his spare time.
joe rogan
And figuring out how to make a fucking biplane.
unidentified
Yeah.
everlast
That dude was on speed or something, man.
unidentified
He's insane!
joe rogan
He's an amazing dude, man.
He's talking about some super dude.
What an amazing mind that guy had.
I wish there was film of that guy.
You know, he's one of those guys you wish, like, man, we really missed out on getting some recordings of that guy talking.
unidentified
Get him a podcast.
joe rogan
He must have been a super genius.
I mean, he must have been some insane, through-the-roof IQ-type character.
It seemed like he would just sketch all these insane machines out and figure things out.
And then perfect anatomy.
I mean, you know, just what an amazing, amazing mind that guy must have had.
unidentified
Do you ever draw or do any kind of art?
everlast
I mean, a little bit.
I came into music, actually, I was a graffiti writer, like, with a bunch of cats, and some of them started making some music for fun, and I kind of followed suit, and it just became, you know, something that, you know, somebody within that group knew Ice-T, and that's how that whole thing took off.
Ice-T signed me, but...
I don't make as much art.
joe rogan
That must be pretty fucking cool to get signed by Ice-T. Yeah, when you're 17. I was 17. Oh!
You must have been like, holy shit, I just got signed by Ice-T. That's amazing.
everlast
And it was before.
It wasn't like about...
You know, there were no super duper hundred million records selling people in rap.
It was like, you know, the biggest people were like, we're on DMC at that time.
Wow.
Public Enemy and a few, you know, stuff like that.
It was just starting to crack.
And then I was just doing it for fun and dude asked me if I wanted to make a record for him and I said, sure, yeah, why not?
And I made a record for him and Next thing was House of Pain and whatnot.
But to answer the question, I collect a lot of art.
I don't really...
unidentified
You do collect art?
everlast
I'm an avid graffiti-based and street art-based collector of art.
unidentified
Yeah.
I love that.
There's a website.
I think it's ESTY. I think is what it is.
Something like that.
But it's for artists.
And a lot of our listeners who are artists will sell posters on this website.
brian redban
And lately, I've been just buying up so much posters, like original prints, because it's like 1 out of 20. We're only printing out 20 pieces of this.
And so for 15 bucks, I'll just, alright, I'll have one of those 15 or one of those 20. And now I'm just out of nowhere started collecting art because of this one website.
unidentified
It's an amazing website.
Yes, TY, I believe.
everlast
It's fun.
I started out like, I don't know, 10 years or so, maybe more ago, maybe about 15 years ago, collecting all these toys out of Hong Kong.
That these graffiti writers from America were going...
All these Asian cats were big fans of the whole graffiti scene.
They would hire these cats to make toys for companies like Bounty Hunter and Medicom.
So I collected all these toys.
And then I ran into a homie that was the editor of an art magazine called Juxtapose.
And he was like, yo, this is cool you collect these toys.
But he's like, you should be actually collecting paintings and art.
And I was like...
Okay, and next thing I knew, I was like, you know, I became, I'm like an obsessive, I have like a thousand pairs of sneakers.
Holy shit.
unidentified
What's your brand?
everlast
Most of them aren't even open.
Really?
unidentified
Yeah.
everlast
I got like 200 pairs of sneakers probably that I just rotate.
unidentified
Wow.
everlast
You know what I mean?
That I wear.
And then there's probably like six, eight hundred pairs of sneakers like in boxes.
Like I had a whole thing at the Grammy Museum.
They had a hip hop exhibit with like all my sneakers.
Wow.
What is it?
My top 50 sneakers I sent over there.
joe rogan
What is it about sneakers?
everlast
Well, what I'm explaining is like, well, for a cat like me and rap, like there's a whole like I'm what I call a B-boy.
I consider myself a B-boy, which is like, you know, in the truest sense of the word, is a break boy, a cat that break dances.
But it became like the title if you're a hip-hop connoisseur.
That I consider myself to be.
That's how I live, a b-boy.
Like a Hesher would be a rock dude, a b-boy is to hip-hop.
If it was an SAT question, that's how it would be.
Hesher is to rock, as b-boy is to...
joe rogan
Third base, they would be b-boys.
unidentified
Sure.
everlast
Definitely.
But collected sneakers is kind of part of that.
joe rogan
It's part of the culture.
everlast
I could be in some dirty clothes if I had a new piece of jewelry and some new sneakers on.
You can't tell me nothing.
unidentified
Do you have a favorite brand?
Are you like a Puma guy?
everlast
I'm pretty much a Nike snob.
You know, like old school Air Force Ones and Jordans and stuff like that.
unidentified
Did you get the Voltrons?
everlast
I stopped collecting a couple years ago.
I still buy sneakers, but I force myself to wear them all.
I used to buy compulsively just to be like, I don't even know if I like those, but put them over there.
joe rogan
So do you have a closet that's specially designed for sneakers?
everlast
A bedroom?
No, it's not designed.
It just looks like a backroom storage spot of a footlocker.
It's kind of crazy.
joe rogan
Really?
everlast
Yeah.
It's retarded.
joe rogan
You just have boxes all over your house?
everlast
I won't even show it anymore because it's shameful.
Man, that's incredible.
It's shameful.
The reason I even brought it up though is that I'm compulsive like that.
I was doing the sneakers and like I said, I collected these toys and then when I stopped doing both of those, I kind of sank all that energy into collecting paintings.
I have paintings now in a couple different houses.
I have paintings like, there's too many to even hang on walls.
They're like in stacks, just leaning up against walls.
joe rogan
Wow.
unidentified
You should give tours, man.
I bet you have some amazing shit.
Or do a little video blog for your website.
everlast
There's a lot of cats that are blowing up really big right now that I've had for a long time.
Caws and...
Shepard Ferry I was collecting before.
He was a bit like Banksy.
unidentified
You got some Banksy?
everlast
Jose Parla.
I'm big on a cat named Crayola.
Greg Simpkins.
It's a big time painting.
unidentified
You know what I mean?
everlast
It's so awesome.
Everything at Futura, all cats like that.
But everything's based around graffiti or street art.
Like cats that actually started in the streets putting their art up.
unidentified
That's awesome.
joe rogan
I went to this dude's house once.
He had a house in the Hollywood Hills.
And he had a whole wall of his house.
He had a crazy house on a glass wall that faced the city.
The whole deal.
And a whole long wall of his house was a gallery.
It was set up for rotating pieces of art.
And he would, you know, literally, like, harbor some of the best artists in the world and buy their shit and rotate new stuff from there to his, like, he had warehouses where he would store the pieces that he wasn't showing.
everlast
I'm getting to the point where I have to find, like, a professional place soon to store a lot of my art.
joe rogan
Yeah, this dude had his house set up like a museum.
I mean, he's incredibly, incredibly rich.
everlast
The house I was telling you about up here in the hills, before I had a kid and got married, that's all it was.
The downstairs of the house had no furniture.
It was just...
Paintings all around.
joe rogan
Let me ask you something about living in the hills, because I've had friends that were robbed up there.
I've had a couple of friends that have encountered...
everlast
Up here?
joe rogan
Up in the Hollywood Hills.
unidentified
That's why you need moats.
everlast
Oh, that's Hollywood Hills.
joe rogan
Oh, you're talking about, yeah, up here.
Yeah.
But the Hollywood Hills is what I was talking about.
I've heard a lot of people getting...
Home invasions and shit in the Hollywood Hills.
everlast
I'm sure, man.
You get caught slipping.
I mean, I used to live in Mount Olympus, actually, which is right up there in Laurel Canyon.
And I lived up there for many years and never had a problem.
But I'm that dude that when he's driving home from the store, like, has the gun in his lap.
And I make two extra turns.
I'm that dude.
joe rogan
That's awesome.
everlast
It's not because I'm on this thing that everybody's out to get me.
But it's like, I'm not going to be the guy to get got because I was stupid.
joe rogan
Right.
everlast
And I just have been trained like that, but I owe that to like actually a lot of the like Cypress homies and them cats when we was all coming up together because they kind of came, I came from suburbia, you know what I mean?
Not rich suburbia, you know, lower class, lower middle class, but middle class nonetheless.
And these cats came from, you know, like I was with Ice and all them.
Like I ran with the syndicate for a while, but I never was like dipped into like he was already a grown man into the entertainment business.
His big gangster and all that days were right behind him.
Cypress guys were fresh off the street.
You know what I mean?
Like when they first made that first record.
So I learned a lot from them about like how to roll like places.
And, yo, they were always worried about who was following them when they were leaving.
So it kind of, even though it didn't apply to me always, it stuck with me to be that alert about things.
And also because I tend to wear a lot of jewelry.
unidentified
I have a really nice car. - It has to suck though, that constant paranoia almost.
Like you're at Olive Garden and you think somebody's going to shoot you.
everlast
Like I said, I'm not like everybody's out to get me, but it's like, let me just be sure of who I am and where I am and what's around me.
So I'll make that extra turn.
And I've been lucky long enough to think that luck is...
I really don't believe in luck.
It's just a word that you use because if there was such a thing as luck, you could fuck a pig and actually have a real kid.
You know what I mean?
That'd be lucky.
joe rogan
That would be magic more than luck.
everlast
Goat magic.
It'd be lucky.
I don't believe in magic.
But luck is magic to a certain degree.
That's my point in a weird way.
What I'm saying is I've been alert enough that I know that I have actually avoided a few times of actually being...
robbed or this or that or the other by just by circumstances and how I reacted to them and how I was alerted to them.
There was times when I was in New York at certain clubs where I definitely knew I was being stalked and about to be preyed upon and I would happen to bump into some cats that I knew and I'd be like, I'm already alerted to these dudes and it'd be like, just the fact that now I'm with some peoples I know and then they just the fact that now I'm with some peoples I know and then they know You know what I mean?
You're by yourself.
You know what I mean?
And then you're oblivious.
I mean, like, that's the worst thing is being oblivious to what's going on around you.
joe rogan
That is a crazy thing.
You have to worry about people physically jacking you and taking your shit.
unidentified
Dude, I'm not the only one.
everlast
Come on, dude.
joe rogan
Everybody does.
everlast
You don't think about it?
Of course, everybody does.
joe rogan
But it's a thing that we have to worry about.
everlast
I've made a lot of music and all that, but my profile is nowhere near yours.
I've sold a lot of records.
I keep a low profile on purpose.
I like going to Ralph's.
I like it.
I like going to the Olive Bar and making my own little bowl of olives.
I like that.
I enjoy that.
I like getting a little box of Cheez-Its and some olives and going home and watching whatever it is.
The UFC or a football game or whatever.
I like to be able to do that.
I like to be able to drive my car and enjoy it.
My music is far more famous than I am as a face.
You gotta worry.
You're the face of a sport to a certain degree.
joe rogan
So it's like your profile is way bigger.
everlast
Most people are decent, nice people.
We're not worried about those people.
joe rogan
It's true.
everlast
Those aren't the people we're worried about.
joe rogan
You have to wait with a small percentage that are nice.
Yeah.
brian redban
You had a public online battle with Eminem, and I know this is old and everything like that, but a lot of us followed it.
joe rogan
I didn't find out about it until today.
everlast
Is that right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
everlast
It was a very, I mean amongst us it was known and our fans it was known, but it was like this thing over Napster.
Like I never released a record about it because I wasn't trying to profit off the situation.
It was a personal thing between me and him.
joe rogan
What'd you guys get mad at each other for?
everlast
I got a little mad at him because I went to shake his hand somewhere and he kind of, before he was Eminem, who he is now, Elvis, you know, as big as Elvis type character.
This was like when he was first coming in and I just went to shake his hand and he kind of, I felt disrespected.
Found out later that, you know, he didn't really see it the same way.
He didn't realize it was that kind of situation after the fact, like I said, we haven't had a problem for 10 years.
joe rogan
Right.
everlast
So it was just a short little thing of like words, words, words.
joe rogan
Yeah.
everlast
And then it was like, you know.
It just became like, alright, well, you don't talk about me, I won't talk about you, and we'll just keep it at that.
joe rogan
One of the things I've found, and it's pretty easy to grab upon this, is that whenever you're around anybody who's really creative or really out there, really dynamic in the way they perform, They're also almost always very emotional.
And some of them have a good handle on it, like you.
You're always a pretty relaxed, mellow, in a certain groove dude.
I've been around you a bunch of times.
I've never seen you agitated.
I've never seen you stressing about anything.
You maintain a certain pace.
Some people really just can't do that.
everlast
For me, there's no show.
I told you.
I said it early in the show.
I've been faking it for years, man.
I'm just trying to figure out.
I'm making music.
I don't even know how to make music.
All this is luck and icing.
As much as I feel like, yo, it's what I'm meant to do.
I feel like to a degree it's what it's meant to do.
It's a lot of luck, dude.
How many guys do you know that you feel personally are as smart as you and as talented as you that for one reason or another without being like they didn't get convicted of rape or nothing stupid like that but just it just something doesn't click like something doesn't happen for them and it's like you I got a bunch of musician friends of mine that are geniuses that I'm just like why why you know what is it about them why why what and that element is whatever that planets lining up that just You're at the right place, right time, and you know how to react.
You know what I mean?
We all are responsible for our fates.
I believe I made a choice somewhere along the line that contributed to what I'm doing.
It's not just blind luck.
But that's an element in the thing.
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