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Nov. 16, 2011 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #158 - Doug Benson
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brian redban
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doug benson
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joe rogan
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doug benson
We're already nailing it.
joe rogan
Boom, bitches!
doug benson
Shit's not even turned on.
joe rogan
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doug benson
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joe rogan
No.
doug benson
Fuck those things.
joe rogan
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And Brian, how many of you fucked?
brian redban
I haven't fucked one until recently.
I just went back to fucking one.
And it was nice.
I don't know why I took the vacation.
joe rogan
You went handsies for a while?
brian redban
Yeah.
I was spitting on my hands, making myself have yeast infections and all this shit.
unidentified
What?
brian redban
Yeah.
Don't you spit after eating...
joe rogan
Wait a minute.
You made yourself have a yeast infection on your dick?
brian redban
I think I did.
doug benson
You spit some mashed potatoes in your hand or something?
brian redban
I've been lazy with my lotion.
joe rogan
You are so nasty.
You are so nasty.
You spit in your hand and you gave yourself a yeast infection on your dick?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Wow.
brian redban
From too much breadsticks.
joe rogan
Anyway, don't do what he does.
And clean your fleshlight, too.
Don't be disgusting.
doug benson
Wasn't there a problem with, like, cantaloupes recently where people were dying from, like, bad cantaloupes?
joe rogan
They were fucking bad cantaloupes?
doug benson
No, from eating them.
But then I was just wondering, I was going to extrapolate, like, what would happen if you fucked a bad cantaloupe?
joe rogan
Yeah, no kidding, right?
doug benson
Because cantaloupe is probably the nature's backup to the fleshlight, right?
joe rogan
How many different people do you think?
What are the numbers of people that have fucked cantaloupes?
brian redban
I think when you're young, you would try anything.
I mean, I fuck pillows and then I sleep on it, you know?
joe rogan
Yeah, when you're young, you hump things, though.
But you have to get elaborate if you want to carve a correct size hole into a piece of fruit.
Out of curiosity, how many people do you think have fucked cantaloupes?
brian redban
Cantaloupe, I would say at least 2 out of 10 people.
joe rogan
I mean, like, all-time numbers.
Is it a million?
Have a million people fucked the cantaloupe?
brian redban
Fifty-three.
joe rogan
Fifty-three people?
doug benson
Wait, two out of ten?
joe rogan
How many people have actually gone through it, you know?
I mean, a lot of people have probably looked at a cantaloupe and they were drunk and thought, I could fuck that.
And, like, maybe looked for an apple cork, couldn't find it, or tried to make a hole, a circular hole with a knife and it didn't work out, and they're like, ah, fuck it.
But how many people actually went ahead, fucked it, and came inside the cantaloupe?
I want the numbers.
brian redban
I'm biased because I have, so I think everyone has.
Really?
joe rogan
You shot a load into a camera?
brian redban
Yeah, remember I put it in the microwave?
joe rogan
Oh, that's right.
doug benson
Oh, you made it nice and hot?
unidentified
Yeah.
brian redban
I always used heat.
When I think about masturbating, I have to have heat involved.
But I don't like those hot oils.
joe rogan
I used to live in Ohio.
It was freezing all the time.
brian redban
Have you ever fucked a girl up by mistake by using the back oil?
You put it on back that heats up.
You accidentally use it for lube to fuck a girl in the ass.
unidentified
What?
brian redban
Don't do that.
unidentified
What?
It ruins it and they run to the bathroom crying and it ruins everything.
joe rogan
Oh my goodness.
brian redban
So that hot oil lotion is just for your bag.
Don't put it in an asshole.
joe rogan
Please don't tell me that this is a real story.
brian redban
It's super real.
I've done it multiple times by mistake.
doug benson
You know what's supposedly really nasty?
If you filled a tub with champagne, if a lady gets into it, it would just burn the shit out of her stuff.
joe rogan
Wow.
doug benson
That supposedly happened in Natalie Wood one time.
joe rogan
Oh, that's funny.
doug benson
I think Dennis Hopper used to tell that story.
joe rogan
I bet it's happened in a lot of hood parties.
You know what I'm saying?
unidentified
A lot of really big rap hood parties.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, come on.
You don't think Birdman has parties where his bathtub's full of champagne and chicks are just climbing in them and booty-popping?
unidentified
Of course.
joe rogan
Inside the tub filled with champagne.
Of course they are.
brian redban
Of course.
joe rogan
We're telling you, those girls, ladies, get your cooter checked out.
Get some anti-yeast infection type situation going there.
That's dangerous stuff.
doug benson
It is dangerous.
What about Martinelli's sparkling apple?
Do you think that would probably burn also?
joe rogan
Maybe that would not burn because it's not alcoholic, right?
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
Maybe it wouldn't fuck everything up.
Maybe it would just make everything smell nice.
doug benson
Oh, I like that.
joe rogan
Maybe it could be a positive.
And it's just apple cider, right?
Anyway, that's the Fleshlight commercial.
The end.
Go get yourself a Fleshlight.
They're awesome to beat off.
brian redban
A lot of controversy on these new commercials, Joe.
joe rogan
Yeah?
They can go fuck themselves.
doug benson
What kind of controversy?
brian redban
A lot of people have been tweeting me and I don't know what to tell you.
It's like, you know, chill the fuck out.
joe rogan
People are like, why do the commercials take so long?
It's not really a commercial, dude.
It's a commercial.
That was a fun commercial.
Exactly.
That's what we're doing every time.
Every one of them is organic.
Every one of them is just us fucking around.
We get it out of the way.
It's the best way to do a commercial, folks.
It's really not that big a deal.
doug benson
I didn't even know we were doing a commercial.
unidentified
Exactly!
doug benson
I thought this was just pre-show chatter.
joe rogan
It's fucking entertaining.
God damn it.
Relax, everybody.
It's like what we're trying to do basically is just slip it in real quick on you.
Come on, just let me...
unidentified
What's up, Mike?
joe rogan
It's a big deal.
brian redban
Can I do a five-second commercial?
joe rogan
Can you right now?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
brian redban
Somebody made a funny website, searchlikebryan.com.
It's hilarious.
Use it for your search needs.
It's pretty awesome.
It adds the word butthole to every search.
unidentified
What is it?
joe rogan
He adds the word butthole every time he searches things.
So he's like, what do you think it would be like to live in New Orleans?
Let's see.
New Orleans butthole.
brian redban
Wells Fargo location's butthole.
unidentified
It always adds one extra butthole to all your searches.
doug benson
Does that change the ultimate destination?
unidentified
No, you still get what you want.
brian redban
You just get a little butthole mixed in for fun.
joe rogan
If you get to page 1,199, you might see something fucked up.
doug benson
An old dude named Wells Fargo bent over showing you his butt off.
joe rogan
It's funny how that goatsy thing, that guy pulling apart his asshole, that is the internet, man.
There's a photo, I forget, it was one of those memes, and it was a kid that was horrified, it was photoshopped, obviously, and right in front of this kid's face was the goatsy asshole, and it just said, welcome to the internet.
laughter I mean, if you could pick one image that represents the internet, for me, it's the Goatsy asshole guy.
The guy pulling apart his asshole.
That represents the internet to me, because guess what?
There's no way that should be that easy to find.
There's no way you should ever be one click away from a guy just opening his asshole, just pulling it apart like a chew toy, you know?
There's no fucking way that should be one click away.
That is the internet.
That embodies the internet.
That is the potential of the internet.
It's not the whole internet, but it's a good t-shirt.
doug benson
It's one particular hole.
joe rogan
It's a good t-shirt for the band.
I mean, fuck, dude.
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Have you been trying that?
brian redban
Yeah, I like it.
I like it a lot.
joe rogan
5-HTP is the shit, man.
Forget about what we're selling.
Go buy it from a GNC or a local store.
Try out some 5-HTP. That shit feels good.
brian redban
Or buy it in an alley.
Try to buy it from a dealer.
unidentified
Go get it.
joe rogan
You don't have to buy our stuff.
The idea of nootropics, just because I'm selling nootropics on this show, don't buy my shit.
Go buy it from somewhere else.
Go read what nootropics are all about.
Online and you know and try it it might not work for you might work for you for some people There's everybody is different biologically I think and I think stuff that might work for you is not necessarily gonna work for me Go buy a winch I'm instead I mean there's some people that can't deal with caffeine some people I mean I don't I don't know if it's gonna work for you but for me it works Caffeine's not my thing but I'd still try it you know you never know Are you a caffeine guy?
doug benson
No, I'm saying it's not at all.
I'm completely off of caffeine, but I can have it every once in a while for, you know, for...
joe rogan
Do you not go with caffeine because caffeine kills your buzz?
doug benson
Oh, that's a good point.
No, no, I'll have like a, you know, I'll have like a fancy, like this time of year, I'll like to have like a pumpkin latte every once in a while or something.
joe rogan
Ooh, those are delicious.
doug benson
Yeah, but I don't really, I'm just not a coffee person, but I'm more specifically not a diet soda person anymore.
I got totally off of that.
joe rogan
Have you ever tried energy drinks?
doug benson
I stay away from all that.
joe rogan
Yeah?
doug benson
Yeah, I just go with, you know...
joe rogan
Whatever you naturally feel.
doug benson
When I'm tired, that's time to go to bed.
joe rogan
That's probably a smart way to do it.
doug benson
I'm usually not in a position where I have to force myself to stay up, you know?
And smoking pot sort of keeps me, you know, if it's a sativa, it sort of keeps me up anyway.
joe rogan
So you just avoid all stimulants?
doug benson
Well, I drink alcohol, so...
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a depressant though, right?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
doug benson
But I mean, just in terms of...
joe rogan
Have you ever fucked with Adderall?
doug benson
No, no.
joe rogan
No?
doug benson
No, I really haven't fucked with much.
I've only done, you know, mushrooms a few times and E a couple of times.
That's about it.
I'm mostly just pot and alcohol.
joe rogan
A lot of people love that Adderall, man.
A lot of people love that for getting shit done.
brian redban
I think if I could get a supply of it, I would probably take it a lot.
unidentified
Really?
brian redban
Yeah, but I'm not even going to look.
joe rogan
How damaging do you think it is for you?
brian redban
I don't think it's bad.
I think if you use it in moderation, I think it's great.
joe rogan
It's one of those that's kind of hard to use in moderation.
I think people seem to like it a lot.
doug benson
I think Brian's the kind of guy that, for me, if I masturbate, it's usually like I can go to sleep right after that, but I imagine Brian would masturbate and then want to stay up late enough to be able to masturbate again.
brian redban
Probably.
doug benson
You get bummed out that it makes you sleepy, and so you need some sort of energy thing to power through to the next one.
joe rogan
I want you to try some of this.
doug benson
Life is short.
joe rogan
I want you to try this alpha brain shit.
doug benson
I will, right now?
joe rogan
No, I'll give it to you after the show.
doug benson
But what's it going to do to me?
joe rogan
The way it helps me is it makes me feel like my brain works better.
It makes me feel cleaner, like I have a little bit more energy, a little bit more...
It feels like things are firing better, you know?
There's a bunch of different interesting ingredients in it.
All of them have been used by people for hundreds, if not thousands of years.
And it's basically vitamins for brain function.
doug benson
But it doesn't feel like it would be something that you've ever like, oh, I need some of that now?
joe rogan
No.
No, I don't think so.
No.
I mean, it doesn't have that profound an effect.
Quite honestly, it's like most vitamins.
I believe in vitamins and I think it's very important to take care of your body and give it a lot of nutrients and stuff.
Most vitamins don't have an immediate effect.
You take vitamins, you have an overall sense of, I'm doing the right thing, and I'm putting good food in my body, and maybe you might feel like you have a little bit more energy, but the effects of having a lack of nutrients, it's slow and long.
It's not like you take vitamins and then all of a sudden, I feel amazing!
No, it's like if you do have a good nutritional base, you will feel better.
If you are taking nutrients, your body will be working better, and it will work better.
And this works along those lines.
These are nutrients that help your brain function.
They help you think better.
I'm in.
doug benson
Let's do it.
joe rogan
I want you to try it.
doug benson
I will.
joe rogan
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And then you can get your freak on.
You get rubber pussies.
You get yourself some brain pills.
doug benson
We're still doing commercials?
I'm going to complain about this.
joe rogan
This is how we do it.
doug benson
I want to be on the record.
I'm going to tweet you guys.
Long fucking commercials.
joe rogan
Press to play and let's get the party rolling.
Super stoner Doug Benson's in the house, bitches.
Experience.
unidentified
Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.
joe rogan
Let's be honest, ladies and gentlemen.
The reason why that commercial went so long is we're way too high to be talking publicly.
Okay?
That was ridiculous.
I see what you're saying, folks.
I see what you're saying.
I hear you.
I'm on your side now.
unidentified
Are you?
joe rogan
I don't know.
I don't know, man.
I'm just talking shit.
doug benson
Fire up the vaporizer.
Let's do some more commercials.
joe rogan
Yeah, we're not sure if this thing works yet.
We're going to give it another few minutes because it still has red.
doug benson
Yeah, I'm excited about it though.
joe rogan
Apparently it takes like 10 minutes.
Yeah, it's like a vaporizer slash bong type device.
doug benson
I could barely do a show these days where somebody doesn't show up with some new fangled thing they want me to try.
joe rogan
These wacky kids these days.
unidentified
Yeah, gotta love them.
joe rogan
I'm saying unable to connect to the internet, Brian.
doug benson
What does that mean?
unidentified
You son of a bitch.
joe rogan
You son of a bitch.
So people are complaining about these long-form commercials that we're doing.
And I don't mean to do that to you folks, but there's just no other way to do it.
I don't know how to...
I'm not going to say the same thing every day exactly.
That's too fucking boring.
doug benson
Well, you could tell the guests to shut the fuck up.
Why?
I'm just saying, if you want it to go quicker.
But I thought that was fine.
That felt to me like...
That's part of the show.
And people like long podcasts.
So you're just giving them...
Just tell them, I'm giving you more, fucker.
Shut up.
joe rogan
Yes, but it's because of money.
That's why.
That's why it freaks them out.
You're making money.
Like, you motherfucker.
doug benson
Yeah, but you're like totally...
joe rogan
You motherfucker.
doug benson
Everyone's saying whatever they want about the product.
It's not like they're just sitting...
It's not like we're a ShamWow guy or something.
unidentified
Yeah.
doug benson
Who tries to say funny things and they're just ridiculous.
Martini, bikini, linguini.
Like, what the fuck are you talking about?
joe rogan
Does the Shamwai have a podcast?
brian redban
I don't know.
joe rogan
I would like to have.
doug benson
He was in jail for beating a girl or something.
brian redban
I think everyone has podcasts now.
It's kind of scary.
joe rogan
Didn't some chick, like a hooker, bite his tongue or something?
doug benson
Yeah, that's it.
joe rogan
Ooh!
Oh, God!
Man!
A hooker bites your tongue, dude.
You've hit a wall in life.
doug benson
Sham-ow!
joe rogan
You have hit a fucking wall in life.
When a hooker bites your tongue.
doug benson
Shit.
joe rogan
Fuck.
doug benson
Yeah, that's pretty brutal.
joe rogan
What a disaster.
You know, because human bites are, like, dangerous.
They're dangerous.
They're, like, really toxic.
We have nasty mouths.
We're, like, as dangerous, if not more dangerous, than most wild animals.
brian redban
Yeah, I have a yeast infection in my mouth.
unidentified
Why do you keep having yeast infections, man?
doug benson
When is it going to stop?
joe rogan
Do you go down on your girl when she has a yeast infection?
doug benson
Why don't you drink a cranberry juice?
brian redban
No, I'm just kidding.
joe rogan
Have you ever gone down on a girl who has a yeast infection?
brian redban
I don't know.
I don't know.
Probably.
I have no idea what a yeast infection is.
joe rogan
There's a lot of girls right now that are getting angry at this conversation.
doug benson
Tastes like bread when you do that.
joe rogan
This is a subject.
doug benson
Delicious bread.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Or beer.
doug benson
It's like fish bread.
joe rogan
This is a subject that makes women angry.
It makes them really angry.
It's just like men are talking about it.
brian redban
Beer fucked a girl with a urinary tract infection where it's like, you know, like...
doug benson
Oh, that's where cranberry juice goes in.
brian redban
Blood's just juicing everywhere.
And it's like black blood and it smells like vinegar or something.
Oh, Jesus.
doug benson
I don't see why women wouldn't enjoy this conversation.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's gotta be a tough thing to take care of, you know?
doug benson
Oh, it's so much maintenance.
joe rogan
It's the difference between washing a car and being a mechanic.
That's what it's like.
It's like men just have to keep their fucking car washed.
Keep your car washed, wax the hood, boom, you're done.
Women have a fucking whole internal thing in there.
doug benson
They gotta get in there.
They gotta get under the hood.
joe rogan
Catch mechanism for loads.
brian redban
They're fucking kangaroos.
joe rogan
A human factory inside their box.
They have a human factory in there.
I mean, shit.
doug benson
We got a crank shaft.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
We have balls that make loads.
That's what we have.
And those loads make people.
It's really no big deal for us.
They have a human making machine inside their vagina.
doug benson
Yeah.
Shit.
joe rogan
What the fuck, man?
brian redban
What's up, Doug?
Doug, where have you been?
doug benson
All over the place.
brian redban
You've been on the road like nine stop lately, right?
doug benson
I can't even remember.
Like every time I'm in LA, somebody goes, "Where were you last weekend?" I don't know.
joe rogan
I went some places.
Are you a constant road guy?
doug benson
Flagstaff in Phoenix last weekend.
Yeah, but I'm really going where I want to go when I want to go there.
Like for the next couple months, I'm only playing gigs in California and Florida to avoid winter weather.
joe rogan
Do you have plants?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
No, no.
doug benson
But I'm home.
I've kind of gotten into a pattern in my career of always trying to be home for a few days, then out for a few days.
I never go away for a long time or stay home for a long time.
I just sort of...
joe rogan
The go away for a couple days and come back is the best way.
When people go out for like three months at a time, all they do is tour.
doug benson
You might as well be in a band if you're going to do that.
joe rogan
Yeah, I watched that Dane Cook tourgasm, where he and all those guys, Bobby Kelly.
doug benson
Those three poor guys.
joe rogan
Yeah, they all went touring around.
They went touring around.
doug benson
I like all those guys, and I feel so bad for them.
Because they do stuff like, today we're going to go ride horses.
Yeah.
To see what wackiness happens.
And then Robert Kelly falls off the fucking horse and breaks his arm.
joe rogan
Yeah.
doug benson
It's just like, ugh, you didn't even need to go horseback riding.
You could have just been hanging out in a condo like you would if you were out doing your own gig somewhere.
You know?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Did Robert Kelly break his arm?
doug benson
Yeah, or twisted it or something.
Because during a lot of tourgasm, he has some sort of cast or sling on his arm, I think.
joe rogan
Is that what happened?
I remember there was an audio that they were playing on Opie and Anthony.
He was talking about his knee, right?
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
He hurt his knee.
He broke his knee.
I broke my knee, man!
I broke my knee, man!
Right?
doug benson
Yeah, yes.
I mean, maybe I'm, you know, just confusing everything.
joe rogan
I remember.
But those guys, like, that had to be really stressful to go on the road.
I only did it once with that Charlie Murphy thing.
Me and Charlie Murphy and John Heffron.
And it was not the most fun because we weren't doing well, like, ticket sales.
We didn't do well in a lot of places.
Like, the promotion wasn't the best.
So a lot of people had no idea we were even in their towns.
It turned out that we only did well in the places where I already did well and Charlie already did well.
It wasn't really a really well-produced sort of thing.
brian redban
It was such a blur too.
I don't remember anything.
joe rogan
I don't remember what city was what and what club Unfortunately, this was before social media.
We didn't have Twitter or anything like that.
brian redban
Can you imagine us having a stream show during that?
joe rogan
Oh, it would have been so fun.
It would have been really fun to be in a different town.
We were literally in a different town every night.
We would wake up, stare at the ceiling, going, what the fuck, where am I? The shows were awesome.
doug benson
It starts to blur together, for sure, the hotels and the airlines and the airports.
joe rogan
The shows were awesome, but it just wasn't financial success.
It didn't do well.
It only did well in like half the places.
doug benson
Is there a city that you don't like performing in?
Like you just think, oh, the crowds always suck there?
Because people always ask me about that.
I always have a great time everywhere I go.
joe rogan
Well, you bring your own people now.
doug benson
Yeah, that's true.
But even as an opening act for other comics, I never was like, oh, this city, they don't like me as much as other cities.
Sometimes you get a bad crowd, but I don't find one city to be like, oh, that place, the crowds are always really stupid or...
You know, like, some places they skew old.
Like, I don't do well in Atlantic City because the crowds are just too old.
joe rogan
Right.
doug benson
You know, and they're just like, what the hell is he talking about?
joe rogan
Right, right, right.
Yeah.
Yeah, Atlantic City is a tricky place.
doug benson
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's a tricky place.
I've done, what is that big theater there?
We did that?
doug benson
At the Borgata?
joe rogan
Yeah.
I did that a couple times.
It's a tricky place.
There's a lot of old people.
It's a strange thing.
It's sort of like trying to be Vegas, but it's just a hair seedier, just a hair weirder, hair more possibility of murder in the air.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Just a hair more.
doug benson
It's, you know, it's...
It caters to New Jersey and Philadelphia and everything around there.
It's more like a localized...
People come from all over the world for Vegas, but if someone's coming from really far away, why are they going to Atlantic City?
That'd be a weird choice.
joe rogan
And Atlantic City is essentially surrounded by dangerous cities.
Vegas is essentially in the middle of nowhere.
You get past Barstow and what the fuck is it?
It's just a bunch of weird towns that don't make any sense.
That drive to Vegas is the real America, though.
It's a strange drive, but that drive to Vegas, that's the real America.
Atlantic City, you have to go through Camden.
You pass through the outskirts of South Philly.
There's a lot of places around Atlantic City that are filled with craziness.
unidentified
Criminals!
joe rogan
Like, serious criminals, man.
I mean, they had a fucking big billboard in Newark when we were there for the UFC. A big billboard that said, stop killing the teachers.
Stop killing the teachers.
brian redban
Is there a big teacher murder thing going on?
joe rogan
Dude, I don't know, but the fact, there must be something.
I mean, otherwise, why would you make a goddamn billboard about it saying stop killing the teachers?
And then, you know, my joke, of course, was the people who are killing the teachers probably can't read.
It's just, you know, it's not really helping.
And by the way, they're going to look at that and go, no.
doug benson
You know, I'm here to kill the teacher.
Might even encourage them a little bit.
joe rogan
What the fuck, man?
That's a scary, scary place.
Newark is a spooky place.
I lived in Newark for a couple years.
I lived there when I was a little kid, and then I lived there again when I was an adult for, I think, about six months.
I stayed with my grandfather when I first moved to New York.
I couldn't afford my own place and I got signed by this management company and so I had to relocate to New York.
So I just balls up, picked up my shit, whatever money I had in the bank and just went.
I was gone in like two weeks.
So I had to stay with my grandfather.
And he lived on North 9th Street in Newark, New Jersey.
And I'm telling you, man, you might as well have been in another country.
It is a crazy little spot, man.
There's a lot going on there, man.
There's a lot going on.
It's like it's a completely different vibe.
doug benson
I've only gone through there on a train.
I don't think I've set foot in there.
joe rogan
They did this thing called blockbusting.
This is what they used to do.
This is how real estate guys made money.
It's a really devious practice.
They would go into a neighborhood and say, hey, black people are moving in.
You better sell now because your property value is going to crash.
By the time they move in, you're going to be fucked.
You're going to lose your investment.
So a lot of people bought into it, and a lot of people just took off.
Sure enough, boom, it crashed whole neighborhoods.
They did it on purpose.
They did it to try to make money.
And my grandfather was like, fuck you.
I like black people.
I'm going to stay right here.
This is my house.
I bought this house.
And he watched this neighborhood turn from being an all-Italian neighborhood To being an all-black neighborhood, and then it became like all Spanish.
You know, like various different kinds of, you know, people from Puerto Rico, people from all different nationalities, but a lot of Spanish people now.
So it was really almost like a kid watched this whole thing where he was in this old-school America, you know, 1940s, and then boom, all of a sudden he's living in a modern age where everything has just gone crazy around him.
unidentified
I bet Mitt Romney's done some of that blockbusting.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
That scumbag.
doug benson
That seems like that's in his wheelhouse.
brian redban
You ever seen blockbusting porn?
unidentified
He'd be blockbusting for Jesus.
joe rogan
Or blockbusting for Joseph Smith.
Yeah, I'm sure he's a swell guy.
We're just joking around, folks.
I'm sure Mitt Romney's aces.
I'm sure he's aces.
doug benson
You know what he says about...
Right now he's saying that they should just...
Everyone should just go ahead and go bankrupt on all houses.
Everyone should just lose their house and let the market decide what happens to everybody.
joe rogan
What the fuck, man?
doug benson
That's his strategy.
Just let everybody...
Don't loan any money to anybody.
joe rogan
Is that his real statement?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's incredible.
That's incredible.
unidentified
He's like, let the foreclosure process happen.
doug benson
It's like being raped.
Just lay back and let it happen.
And don't struggle.
joe rogan
The ultimate acceptance that, as a unit, we're only as strong as our weakest link.
If you're working towards things as the leader, if you're supposed to be the number one guy, you're at the top calling all the shots, the number one thing you have to take care of is the weakest of the links.
That's the people that are fucked up.
The weakest of the links.
The people that are down and out.
The people that are homeless.
The people that don't know where their next meal is coming from.
You've got to take care of them.
You've got to figure that out.
doug benson
Yeah, and that's the problem with our politics in this country is those people are not paying for the politicians.
They're not making the contributions that keep them taking.
brian redban
Isn't that racist, though?
joe rogan
It's not racist.
There's a lot of poor white people.
doug benson
Oh yeah, the poverty level right now is so ridiculous.
joe rogan
You go to Kentucky, brother, it doesn't matter, man.
It doesn't matter, white or black.
It doesn't matter.
It's not about that.
It's about people that are in despair.
For anyone to say that they should just suffer, that's ridiculous.
Some people can't do it on their own, man.
Some people need a little help.
Some people need to be shown how.
We need a nation with someone who's an actual guide, someone who can offer real guidance.
And now they're not doing that, man.
It's just a money grab.
It's a money grab by all these fucking corporate whores.
And all these people who have paid for these politicians to be in place and paid for these laws to be in place are just reaping the profits while the rest of us freak the fuck out because we can't figure out why the resources are going the way they're going.
We're going, why are you there?
Why do we have 100,000 fucking troops here?
Why do we have troops here?
Why don't we conserve our fucking resources?
Why is that...
The biggest section of our economy.
Why does it have to be this military-industrial complex?
Why do we have to be doing this?
This idea to keep us safe.
What the fuck are you talking about, man?
doug benson
Keep the troops here.
Let them guard.
joe rogan
Yeah, exactly.
You want to keep us safe?
doug benson
Put them all over the place.
joe rogan
Yeah, have troops all over the outskirts of the fucking country.
That's how you keep it safe.
This is preemptive shit, man.
I don't know, dude.
The whole thing freaks me out.
It freaks me out because I can't believe it's this bad in 2011. I was listening to a Robert Anton Wilson lecture.
It was in 1993. He was talking about how war is in the process of being phased out.
And he was talking about how in the future it's obviously being phased out.
And I wonder what he would have said now, today, thinking about that like in 1993. That in 1993 I thought war was going to be phased out too.
We all thought it was over.
We got through that whole crazy desert storm thing under Bush and...
All of a sudden, here we are, and it's 2011, and it's crazier than ever.
I wonder what he would have said then.
I mean, is it being phased out?
Because it doesn't seem like it's being phased out.
doug benson
No, it seems like it's heating up, like we may be pulling it out of a couple places, but going into new ones.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's like, what the fuck is going on?
If there's something else going on, let me know, alright?
If Indiana Jones has found the fucking Lost Temple, and the Ark of the Covenant is in there, and you have to keep the bad guys from getting to it, because, you know, if not, it would be hell on earth.
brian redban
And hopefully there's no snakes.
joe rogan
Yeah, fucking please let me know, because otherwise, this is crazy.
Otherwise, this is crazy.
And it's just so obvious that there's money behind all this shit.
It's so obvious.
We live in the grossest, most corrupt country ever.
It's so bizarre.
Not ever, of course.
I'm just kidding.
I mean, I'm sure a lot of Middle Eastern countries, a lot of South American countries, they're pretty corrupt, too.
But the fact that we're this wonky...
You know, and then everybody wants to stand up and say, well, if you don't fucking like it, you should get out.
If you don't like it, you should leave America.
You know, like, there's so many rah-rah-rah fans out there.
doug benson
Not liking it is what the whole country's been built upon.
joe rogan
Exactly.
doug benson
That was the idea, is that everybody gets to contribute.
It's called a democracy, and we're all supposed to participate and help one another.
joe rogan
Yeah.
doug benson
And now it's just like, it's becoming so every man for himself that...
The disparity between the richest 1% and the poorest people, it's just insane, the difference.
joe rogan
It's a goddamn money grab out there.
doug benson
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's a money grab out there, left and right.
brian redban
So are all the Occupy's right now being shut down?
I don't know.
doug benson
Each city's kind of treating it differently.
There's a few cities that are really embracing it.
joe rogan
Yeah, like Portland, right?
doug benson
In LA, it's not really a problem.
brian redban
The original one I heard got shut down.
joe rogan
Yeah, I heard some crazy shit that they were keeping reporters out and they were forcing reporters out of the area.
They said it was for their own safety.
These reporters were like, that's insulting.
doug benson
Bloomberg cleared everybody out.
They're all intense.
And they went through and told everybody they had 10 minutes to get out at 1 a.m.
on Tuesday.
And, you know, they used quite a bit of force to get everybody out of there.
And now they're letting people back in, but they're saying they can't have tents and sleeping bags.
Like, you can go back in and just stand there.
And the idea is they figure that that's going to kill the movement a little bit because it's getting so cold.
And they won't be able to last through the winter.
But Bloomberg keeps saying it's a safety issue.
And also that they have the right to peaceably assemble, but they don't have a right to have a tent or a sleeping bag.
Which is just kind of like, well, but that's so that they can assemble peaceably and not just all freeze to death in the middle of the fucking park in New York.
Like, why would they want casualties or why would they want people to suffer that much, you know, in order to just express their, you know, anger at Wall Street?
I mean, I think it's fantastic that it's that it that that it's happening everywhere.
You know, that there's, you know, there's Occupy Dubuque and stuff like that, but also this new.
Bloomberg doing this, if he had just let it be, the movement might have died.
But it brought this whole new media storm and all this new footage of cops just beating up these people that don't look like hippies.
They're not all in tie-dye.
They're just people that are just concerned and showing up to...
To make a mark.
brian redban
They're holding hand by hand.
Did you see that video?
That's just insane.
I can't believe that as a fellow person, just being able to do that to that girl.
unidentified
Little girl.
joe rogan
What he's saying is they were jabbing him with batons.
doug benson
Yeah, yeah.
And Bloomberg, he makes it all about...
joe rogan
It was horrible.
doug benson
He makes it all about keeping people of New York safe by kicking everybody out of there.
And it's like when they're in their tents, who is in danger?
Nobody.
But as soon as they're spraying pepper spray.
joe rogan
Well, maybe he's worried about people freezing to death.
doug benson
I don't think he is.
I think he just...
joe rogan
I don't think he is either, but it is sort of a legal concern that...
If someone freezes to death on your lawn, who's responsible for that?
brian redban
Yeah.
unidentified
No.
doug benson
Well, it's certainly not his lawn.
It's like a public park that's privately owned.
joe rogan
Is it?
doug benson
It's owned by some corporation.
brian redban
Is it also public safety, though?
doug benson
That's the argument.
His argument was that people can't enjoy the park if the park is full of people that are just there to protest.
But it's like, hey, it's New York City.
Walk two blocks and enjoy that other park.
It's just one fucking park.
joe rogan
But I think what...
doug benson
There's definitely two sides to it, but it just feels like what Bloomberg did sort of energized the movement in a way that might not have happened if he did just let it play out.
joe rogan
How would anybody expect them to behave, though?
They've got to figure out a way to squash this, and they have to take drastic measures.
doug benson
That's why they go through in the middle of the night, everybody's fucking half asleep, and they go in there and just say, you've got to go now, get out.
But there's footage of cops lifting guys up and throwing them over the barricade and stuff.
And the cops, for the most part, I like to say they're doing what they're told to do.
I don't like to blame the cops.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're doing what they're told to do, but when they're doing it, all of a sudden the people that don't want to listen become the enemy.
They become bad guys.
doug benson
Yeah, it's like a bouncer with a drunk person in a club.
Like, when that drunk person is belligerent, then it gets violent.
joe rogan
But these people aren't bad guys.
brian redban
They should, like, let them still occupy, like, the trees.
Like, they should be allowed to, like, live in the trees in the park so that the park could still be...
doug benson
That's a fantastic idea.
joe rogan
Yeah, but then what if a hippie falls on you while you're walking your dog?
doug benson
Then you have some real safety issues.
brian redban
Yeah, they have to have some safety, like, people that check it out, but then they become Ewoks in a couple months, and...
doug benson
The idea is to cause some inconvenience and draw some attention.
You don't get together and protest something and do it super politely.
joe rogan
Imagine if that's where sloths came from.
They were originally people.
They were just so fucking stupid.
They eventually just became these clawed things.
They degenerated to that point.
Imagine if someone proved that.
That's why Sloth is like, you know, that's like a sin.
That's one of the sins, the basic sins, right?
brian redban
Yeah.
doug benson
It's my favorite.
joe rogan
Sloth?
doug benson
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, what was that movie with Brad Pitt?
doug benson
Seven with a seven instead of a V. Yeah.
brian redban
That's a good movie.
joe rogan
That's a good fucking movie.
doug benson
It's a creepy movie.
brian redban
That one dude, the sloth guy, was sitting hunched over the table.
It was the first time where I saw a body where they had makeup where it was blue.
It's been sitting there for a while.
joe rogan
They did a good job.
brian redban
Dead thing.
joe rogan
It looked dead as fuck.
brian redban
Do you ever do that?
unidentified
What?
brian redban
Get makeup like that on you just for fun?
Like, it looks like your stomach's...
unidentified
What?
doug benson
No.
I don't do a lot of things just for fun.
I'm no Brian Redman.
joe rogan
Brian Redman lives just for fun.
doug benson
Yeah.
joe rogan
The things you do.
brian redban
I wish.
doug benson
You got a Dragon's Lair shirt on.
What's that about?
brian redban
I went to a comic book store the other day because I've been hearing all this shit about how comic book stores are just hurting right now.
They're suffering the most with this whole economy.
People aren't buying comics anymore.
They don't have any free money where kids are downloading comics now.
So I decided there's one in Burbank that I've always driven by.
It's like, I might check it out.
Maybe I can find a cool poster for the studio or something.
So I went in there and I just, I was in there for like three hours.
It's the best store ever.
doug benson
You bought a bunch of stuff.
brian redban
A bunch of just like random things.
It was so cheap.
It was like, posters were like $7.
doug benson
I was like, I never get a chance to brag about this, but I worked at the arcade that had the very first Dragon's Lair, the test one, before it went public, and I probably killed the dragon.
I was probably maybe the 30th or 40th person in the world to get all the way to the end and kill the dragon.
Because I would stay at night when I was off duty, and I had keys to the place, and I would just stay in there and play and play and play until I finally got to the dragon.
You know, figured it all out and killed the dragon.
And, you know, and then eventually it went, you know, went public.
brian redban
That is amazing.
doug benson
All over the place.
brian redban
You just gave me the biggest nerd boner.
doug benson
In San Diego, I worked in an arcade called Starport.
It was in a mall.
But when you walked in, there was all this corrugated tin and stuff that simulates, kind of like you're going into like Space Mountain or something.
And there's like stars on the ceiling.
It was kind of a cool themed arcade.
joe rogan
Refresh my memory, because I remember the Dragon's Lair was like this really cool animated thing where, you know, you would go...
But you would have to move certain ways to...
doug benson
There was a series of scenes that would happen on the screen, you know, like an animated movie.
It looked like a Don Lutheran Disney movie.
And you had like, you know, I think you had a regular toggle thing and then a couple of buttons...
brian redban
Yeah, it's a joystick and an action button.
And usually it started off like you're walking down a bridge, and then a snake comes up.
And you have to think, what would you want to do?
Either take the sword to the snake or left?
But it was more of a guessing game.
doug benson
It was more like you had to try every combination of things to do.
There's one part where you're like...
You're in a cave roaring down a river in a raft or something, and you can go to the right or the left, and so if you toggle to the right, you go the rest of the way without encountering anything, but if you go the other way, something goes wrong and you lose a life or something.
There's just a bunch of options through the whole thing.
Until finally you get to and kill the dragon.
But yeah, it was weird because it was early enough in video games where it wasn't like you could really make the things do that much.
Because also it was pre-animated and there weren't a lot of options.
So as long as you did the right thing, you move forward or there would be a scene of you failing.
brian redban
They have it on the iPad I believe now.
Really?
That's my dream is to get an original Dragon's Lair arcade game.
And my friend actually just got one and I'm so jealous.
joe rogan
That's your dream?
brian redban
That was one of my, like, you know, like you have dream things, like gold shorts.
I went to gold shorts circuit.
joe rogan
I think you would get really bored of it today, man.
doug benson
But also, yeah, let me give you also another reason to not be jealous.
Here's the reason to not be jealous is because when that thing breaks down, there's nobody that can fix it.
brian redban
I already have a laser displayer at my house, brand new, just waiting to replace it.
unidentified
What?
What?
LaserDisc.
doug benson
Wait, you're good enough with that kind of stuff that you can install the...
brian redban
A couple of my friends, that's what they do for a living, the arcade restoration.
joe rogan
Is that work on LaserDisc?
Is that what it is?
brian redban
Oh yeah, it's a LaserDisc, actually.
joe rogan
So the game is a LaserDisc?
brian redban
Yes.
doug benson
Essentially, yeah, with just different...
When you toggle the correct way or you push the button the right way, it goes into a different chapter.
brian redban
But honestly, nowadays, you can mod arcade games.
I could hook up a computer to it and have every single arcade game ever.
You know, so you don't even need the laser displayer anymore using ROMs.
joe rogan
How many options were there for movement?
That's what I don't remember.
I just remember it being completely groundbreaking, like, whoa, this is like, it's like an animated movie.
This is amazing!
brian redban
It was just joystick and one button.
joe rogan
That's all it was?
brian redban
Yeah, if I recall.
doug benson
Yeah, you just kind of like are always kind of moving to the left or the right or in the case of like throwing the sword into the dragon, I think you had to just press the button and motion in that direction at the same time.
brian redban
Yeah, Laserdisc games of the 80s were one of my favorite things ever.
He had that mock It was really cool because it was also using a laser display.
It was new.
They had Space Ace which was also done by Don Bluth who did Dragon's Lair.
And there was one game, they started taking Japanese cartoon movies and making them video games.
Malibu Grand Prix had a, it was a racetrack thing in the Midwest where they had a whole arcade division.
So they took these animated movies and one was called Space 666, it was like about a train.
And it was the coolest video game because you were on top of a train It was like Dragon's Lair, and it was like a spy movie.
It was so cool.
doug benson
No, I remember this.
But that style of game didn't really catch on.
It didn't really become...
brian redban
It was big briefly in the 80s.
doug benson
I mean, it didn't become a lot of them, you know, like there's Pac-Man and then everything that's sort of like Pac-Man.
joe rogan
I vaguely remember that.
I vaguely remember that on an arcade.
What year was this?
brian redban
This was about 85, 86. I don't think I ever saw that.
doug benson
I only saw, I remember Space Ace and feeling like it was already like, oh, well, that's not Dragon's Lair.
That's just an attempt to be like Dragon's Lair.
joe rogan
Home computer games must have just crushed video arcades, right?
brian redban
It did when Nintendo finally came out.
joe rogan
Do they still have a big video arcade?
Do you remember when we used to go to just video arcades?
You'd open the door and it was just all fucking...
doug benson
Now it's always with something else or in a weird place like an airport or a casino.
brian redban
What are those Dave& Buster type places?
doug benson
Yeah, they have a room of games.
They also have to have food and drinks and pool tables and...
Shuffleboard.
No place is just video games, except for there's one joint in Portland that's like a whole arcade that's just all old school shit.
joe rogan
Of course it's in Portland.
doug benson
Yeah, right?
joe rogan
Of course it's in Portland.
That's funny.
brian redban
I told you about my friend that does the restorations, Brian Penzone, Columbus, Ohio.
His whole basement...
He made an 80s arcade room.
So you walk down, it's like you walk down into 1980. Oh, wow.
And so it's amazing, and it's huge.
joe rogan
So he decorated it like Wayne's World style?
brian redban
Everything, like those little pink neon that's always at the top, you know, from the 80s.
doug benson
As soon as Brian Posehn made a nickel in show business, he and his buddy Dave Rath bought a...
A combination.
It was half and half, Ms. Pac-Man, Galaga.
I just spent hours over his house playing Galaga.
joe rogan
Galaga's the shit.
doug benson
I'm pretty good at Galaga.
And then he also got a Joust slash Robotron.
And I'm really good at Robotron.
It was another one that I... You know, I just worked in an arcade, so I just played games all day.
Kids would come up to me and they'd be like, can I get some tokens?
And I'd be like, hang on a second, kid.
You know, and I'd finish the round, then I'd throw them some tokens, and then I'd go back to playing.
Like, it was the craziest job.
unidentified
Yeah, I went one of those cocktail tables for the studio.
doug benson
Oh, those are great!
brian redban
I went one of those cocktail table Pac-Man Joust games or whatever.
doug benson
I used to have those, like, while you're waiting around, like, in a pizza hut or something.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
doug benson
You could sit down, or, like, sit down table pinball was also kind of cool.
brian redban
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
There's a place near me that the movie theater has an arcade.
It has a little entry room where you can go and play video games while you're waiting for your movie.
brian redban
I just like the look of it.
I like the style of arcade games.
I don't even play it much.
I have a Pac-Man at the studio and I barely ever play it.
I just like the lights of it.
I like just the look of it.
joe rogan
It's relaxing.
It's a goddamn Leonard Skinner poster.
brian redban
That's right.
unidentified
It relaxes you when you're heat-up melons.
I get turned on by these video game commercials, man.
joe rogan
I get turned on by these video game commercials, but not to the point where I'll go out and get it.
brian redban
Oh, really?
joe rogan
I won't allow myself.
doug benson
I just know that I will...
Any new video game...
I sort of kicked it.
I just stopped doing it altogether after Mario Kart.
I used to play that day and night, and then...
After a while, you're just like, what is getting great at this going to do for me?
It's fun, but holy shit.
joe rogan
You're getting tricked.
It's the trick.
You're getting tricked into doing something absolutely stupid with your time.
It hijacks your whole idea, your reward system.
You're succeeding.
Yes, yes, accomplishing.
You're focused.
You're in on it.
But really, you're not even in the real world.
You're getting all these signals from this fake world.
brian redban
Yeah, but it's like watching a movie to me nowadays.
It's like watching a movie to me.
I want to escape reality, but I want to have more control of the movie.
So that's kind of why I do...
I don't watch as many movies anymore.
joe rogan
When you have interactive video games, there's a lot of thinking involved.
Especially if you're playing like...
If you're playing Counter-Strike or something like that or playing Quake or any of those...
doug benson
Or like John Madden, you've got to know a shitload about all the players and stuff.
joe rogan
There's a lot of thinking going on.
Your synapses are firing.
Whether or not you choose to think that they're firing on something useful or not, that's really sort of an arbitrary decision.
You can't say that...
This person isn't actually training their mind through intense video games.
Because you're doing intense video games, you're multitasking.
Your synapses are firing.
You're moving your fingers.
In first-person shooters, you have to be in direct coordination with your left hand, which moves your keys, and your right hand, which controls the mouse.
There's a lot of shit going on.
You can't tell me that that's not exercise for your mind.
doug benson
I played a lot of GoldenEye, too, now that I think of it.
brian redban
You know they re-released that?
unidentified
Huh?
brian redban
They re-released that game.
Oh, really?
joe rogan
What's going on?
doug benson
It was the first James Bond, like the first pretty cool...
joe rogan
Was it good?
doug benson
You know, run around, grab different weapons.
brian redban
First person shooter type thing.
doug benson
Yeah, but they'd have, you know, you could play four people at a time, so me and Posehn and two other people would just sit there for hours chasing each other around, trying to shoot each other.
So stupid.
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
The whole staff on news radio, the entire writing staff, was addicted to Quake.
And they had a LAN set up, a local area network set up in the office where they had like six, seven computers all linked up together and they would have these mad Quake tournaments.
It was crazy.
It was really fucking fun.
It was, unfortunately though, hugely addictive.
brian redban
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
I would get really stuck playing where I was like, you know, 7 o'clock, 8 o'clock in the morning, alright, I gotta go home.
I could make myself drive home because we're all playing.
brian redban
When I worked at Gateway, all the tech guys with all the Gateway stores in Columbus, we used to have LAN parties.
Every Friday we'd just get alcohol and we'd all have shuttles or small little portable computers.
unidentified
Yeah.
brian redban
We'll bring our computers, our cantaloupes, and then we would just sit there and play Battlefield or whatever for like hours until like 5 in the morning.
joe rogan
Local area networks are fun.
We used to do that in the Quake clan that I was in.
We would get together in Houston, Texas.
Most of those guys lived in Houston.
So we would go to Houston and have these local area network parties set up, all the computers set up in this room.
brian redban
That'd be awesome.
doug benson
I've seen places...
brian redban
That was a thing they tried to do.
Make it a huge...
Also, you could sit down and just have a LAN party every time you hang out there.
joe rogan
Dude, if we do...
brian redban
And do a podcast during that.
joe rogan
I'll have a real problem.
unidentified
Yeah, how can you...
doug benson
It'd be hard to podcast while playing a game.
joe rogan
I'll play some.
If you want to put some Quake on there, I'll play some Quake once a week.
I'll open up the Dragon's Door.
I'll open up Pandora's Box.
brian redban
Yeah, that'd be cool.
LAN party podcast.
joe rogan
I got to play pool.
I played pool last night with Don Marrera.
doug benson
You did?
unidentified
Why?
doug benson
Where?
joe rogan
Dom Herrera.
unidentified
Why?
joe rogan
Dom Herrera's a good pool player.
doug benson
That's why you played with him?
joe rogan
Yeah, he's a buddy.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
doug benson
I didn't know you knew him, but you just went to his house?
We met at a pool hall.
joe rogan
We met at a pool hall.
doug benson
Where's the pool hall?
Because that's another thing that seems to be dying.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's not hard to find pool halls.
This was the House of Billiards in Sherman Oaks.
Yeah, it's hard to find good places.
Vegas has the most good places.
Vegas still has 24-hour pool halls, which is an anomaly outside of Vegas.
It used to be, in New York, you could get 24-hour pool halls a lot.
There was Chelsea, Chelsea Billiards, and there was a bunch of other smaller places that were 24 hours.
I don't know how many of them are left, but Chelsea's gone and a lot of other big ones are gone.
brian redban
That's crazy.
A 24-hour place to play a sport.
There's not many of those.
There's not like anything else.
joe rogan
The name pool really is all about gambling.
It's really pocket billiards.
It's called pool because everybody's pooling their money together and betting.
The fun in pool is all about money.
It's all about gambling.
And so you would go to these places, and the reason why they were open 24 hours a day is because no one ever wanted to leave.
They would just play and gamble.
doug benson
Just trying to double up, and then you get down, and you try to get back up.
joe rogan
Guys would sleep under the tables.
It was so common that guys would stay there for two, three days.
Yeah, I would go and do gigs.
I'd come back, and the same guys would be there from the night before in the same clothes.
doug benson
It's almost like a job for a lot of guys.
joe rogan
Yeah, and they would be gambling like crazy, but it was always fun.
It was always exciting.
The world of gambling and pool, if you're in an action room, it's fucking fun, man.
It's very addictive.
But again, it's just like the video game thing.
It's like, what are you doing by getting really good at putting balls in holes?
What are you doing?
doug benson
And gambling illegally and getting in scrapes with guys because you don't...
You don't like cigarettes.
Hustling dudes.
joe rogan
For the most part, if everybody knew everybody, there was very few problems.
But there was always stories of, you know, this guy wanted his money back and he came at this guy with a fucking golf club.
There was always those stories.
I saw a few scuffles over the years of hanging out in pool halls.
But for the most part, when people paid, you know, if they wanted to keep gambling, they had to pay when they lost.
Because there was a gambler's ethic.
If you caused trouble when you lost and you were only happy when you won, nobody would gamble with you.
People didn't want to.
So they just naturally became guys who had good reputations and guys who didn't.
And if you didn't know the guy, don't play him.
doug benson
But then Tom Cruise and Paul Newman showed up.
joe rogan
That was the big boom.
That's when people realized how fun it was.
But it's one of those things that's sort of getting lost in our culture.
When we were playing last night, there was a girl at a table next to us that was pretty good.
She could play pretty good.
And she was with her boyfriend who couldn't fucking play at all.
And she was humiliating him.
And he was trying, getting super upset.
But she didn't even try to help him.
His technique was fucking horrible.
His elbow was up in the air.
He was putting all kinds of extra spin on the ball.
He couldn't make a ball to save his life.
And the girl was just laughing at him and jumping up and down every time she won.
And you could see him getting fucking pissed.
Getting actually pissed off that she was bragging because she was winning this game.
You could see him almost want to hit her.
I'm like, wow.
There's some deep-seated shit in this game.
doug benson
All competition between dudes and their girlfriends of any kind, it brings out some really weird shit.
joe rogan
Basketball, yeah.
doug benson
Because as a man, you've got to win.
And against a woman?
joe rogan
Yeah.
doug benson
No matter how nice to the women you are and how much you respect them, it's still this weird...
unidentified
Yeah.
doug benson
You know, thing kicks in that's just hardwired.
joe rogan
Yeah, I was dating this chick.
This is how I got into pool.
I was dating this chick, and she was a little older than me, and she used to like to tell me what to do.
I didn't really like that, but I liked to fuck her.
So I stuck around for a little while.
But...
doug benson
Because that was one of the things she'd tell you to do?
joe rogan
Yeah, we played pool once and she beat me playing pool.
I wasn't good, so I wouldn't say she was pretty good, but she beat me.
And so I said, oh shit, I found something she's good at.
She's better at me than this.
Well, this is terrible.
I have to fix this.
I have to fix this at once.
So I went to the pool hall and learned how to play pool.
I went and started practicing.
I went and I got a book on it.
I got my own cue.
I figured out how to play pool.
And then we played again and I killed her.
brian redban
You pooted her?
joe rogan
Yeah, we played again.
I totally practiced, totally learned how to play pool.
I mean, I wasn't good by any stretch of the imagination, but at least I knew how to play pool.
I was definitely way better than I was the first time we played.
And then I won.
So I had a problem that I couldn't let her have beaten me at something.
And this is how I got addicted playing pool.
brian redban
I'm imagining you being like the zookeeper character as you're telling that story.
unidentified
Totally.
joe rogan
Dude, I was totally like that guy.
Well, that was the dark days.
That was the actual fighting days.
The dark days, I was way crazier.
doug benson
Yeah, I can't think of an example of something I taught myself to be better at to beat my girlfriend, but I'm sure it happened.
joe rogan
Yeah, I could not let her.
She was older than me, and she was smart.
There was no way.
She was a very educated person, too.
You know, she was a musician.
She had a lot of shit going on.
brian redban
She ever wrote a song about you when you guys were dating?
joe rogan
No, no, no.
brian redban
That would have been cool if there was a song out there about you.
joe rogan
Yeah, it would probably be mean.
brian redban
I can't guess.
joe rogan
She's a nice person.
Very nice person.
Do you still know her, sort of?
No.
It's very hard to stay in touch with people.
When you used to date them, they date other people.
They don't want some dude fucking calling and texting and emailing.
It's not right.
It's not right.
Wish them the best.
Don't confuse everybody.
You can confuse the shit out of people.
Don't you think?
Yeah.
But, you know, all of a sudden, you know, you're in a fight with your husband, and, you know, you're having email talks with your ex-boyfriend, and all of a sudden you start thinking, you know, maybe this guy and I could give it one more shot.
Maybe that's why...
It can create conflict, you know?
brian redban
I think if it's an open forum only, then that's cool.
Like a Facebook wall...
Posts and stuff like that.
Like, hey, how you been?
We should hang out sometime or something like that.
joe rogan
Yeah, maybe.
You could do it that way.
doug benson
There's always some gamemanship or somebody wants something and then the trouble is that other people in your life start questioning what's going on and it sucks.
joe rogan
Yeah, it sucks.
It's annoying.
Really, we should be able to just fuck everybody.
That's really ideal, but no one can handle that.
unidentified
No one can handle that.
That would be so weird.
doug benson
Brian Redman's the only person that could handle that.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
But could you imagine if the ego actually gets completely cured?
You can't have art then.
You're not going to have everything to say.
Art is like the struggle.
doug benson
All the best jokes were to get laid.
joe rogan
Art is like the struggle.
Yeah, the best painter.
Art is like the struggle between the ego and the desire to produce something fantastic to please others.
And if you don't control the ego, you can't really produce art, but the fight with the ego is what fuels the art sometimes.
So if we had no ego, we'd have no art.
But people would just fuck randomly.
Everybody would just be able to fuck everybody.
You wouldn't worry about it.
doug benson
It takes nerve to be an artist because you're basically saying that I can do this thing so well that people are going to want it.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's very arrogant.
doug benson
Yeah, super arrogant, but it's also...
It starts out like you're just...
I get people asking me all the time...
How do you become a stand-up comic?
And I'm just like, you know, do it.
That's how you become one.
You just do it.
And then they're always like, yeah, but do you have any advice?
And I really, like, there's lots of little tiny pieces of advice that you can give if you want to sit with a person and talk to them for two weeks.
But big advice is just do it.
joe rogan
Yeah, never underestimate the power of actually fucking doing something.
doug benson
Yeah, and also not, the fact that they're questioning it at all, the fact that they're looking to someone else for help to get started, makes you think that they, how are they ever going to make it because they don't want it badly enough.
They're not going to just do it.
joe rogan
Yeah, I never asked anybody.
All I asked is what you have to do to get on stage.
What do you have to do to get on stage?
That was my initial question.
But once I got in, you know, and started doing open mics, I just, you know, you figure it out by doing it.
doug benson
It's total trial and error.
joe rogan
Yeah, no one's good.
No one's good.
No one that you know who thinks they're funny can go on stage and kill in front of a room full of strangers.
You might laugh if you think they're your buddy and they're up there yuck-yucking it up.
But guess what?
It's a weird fucking way to communicate with people and it really is not all that it seems.
It's a very tricky sort of a craft that you have to learn and develop.
But you can do it.
Anybody can do it.
But nobody's good in the beginning.
Nobody's good in the beginning.
doug benson
Yeah, or you get your laughs here and there, and that's encouraging.
joe rogan
You get a little chuckle here and there.
You feel like you're on to something, but you suck, dude.
We all suck.
Everybody does.
brian redban
Your first time is usually the best, too, within the next ten times.
doug benson
But some people get an extra charisma bump, too, though.
You know what I mean?
I bet you the first sets of Bill Hicks, Eddie Murphy...
Spade started really early.
Rock started really early.
Those guys were probably pretty decent their first time out, just because it's that charismatic personality.
joe rogan
Well, I was talking about Joey Diaz, who's one of my favorite comedians of all time.
Joey is, in my opinion...
He's like, out of just sheer laugh-out-loud, fall-down moments, he's provided me with the most of any human being ever.
unidentified
I agree.
joe rogan
And Joey was not that good when I met him.
He was not that good on stage.
He just couldn't do it.
It was a real weird thing.
I don't know what it was.
doug benson
Well, he's just a hilarious dude.
I mean, he's hilarious talking about anything.
joe rogan
Yeah, but he...
doug benson
And maybe he couldn't, you know, focus it into set-up punchline kind of...
joe rogan
Maybe.
I don't know what it was.
unidentified
Or bits.
joe rogan
He turned a fucking corner, man.
And I don't remember when it was, but I remember it was...
It was actually, I don't know, maybe three, four years in.
I don't know what it was.
Three, four years into knowing him.
He turned this fucking corner and just started destroying Or maybe he just became more himself?
Yeah.
Oh, he definitely did.
He just learned to be relaxed on stage.
I asked him what happened, and he was like, I just stopped giving a fuck.
doug benson
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
He said, I stopped giving a fuck.
doug benson
Yeah, not trying helps a lot.
joe rogan
Too many people telling him what to do, and he was like, fuck you, I want to do it my way.
And when he did that, boom, he was awesome.
But when he was trying to make everybody happy, he just couldn't...
He couldn't really be himself, you know?
Himself is the I don't give a fuck guy that tells the funny stories in the back of the comedy store.
And that's the guy that we all knew and loved.
But then on stage he figured out how to do it.
And that was, you know, that's the most dramatic out of my life of seeing someone go from not being good to being really good.
Joey's the most dramatic.
doug benson
Oh, I got my most dramatic one.
joe rogan
Who?
doug benson
It was Doug Stanhope.
joe rogan
Doug Stand-Up wasn't good in the beginning?
doug benson
Well, you know, he was...
I don't know how raw he was when I saw him, but he was...
joe rogan
What year was this?
doug benson
Oh, man.
A long time ago.
It was back when Steve Scharippa was still physically there at the Riviera Comedy Club.
And it was maybe even still an improv at that point.
And I was one of two feature acts with this other guy named Tom Martin, who now he writes on Simpsons and stuff.
And the headliner was Hugh Fink.
And Doug Stanhope was the host, you know, the MC for like one of those crazy weeks where you do two shows a night for seven nights and crowds were starting to get smaller than, you know, like the kind of the Vegas comedy boom was starting to fade a little bit.
And Sharipa would just yell at him every night.
He was like that week's punching bag.
joe rogan
What was Sharipa yelling at him about?
doug benson
It was just being late, bringing a girl into the showroom without asking ahead of time.
It happened to me a few times.
He just sort of picks one person to pick on, to kind of establish to the group that you can't get away with anything.
But Doug, like, super good kid, you know, nice guy.
I was a few years older than him and, you know, thought I really had it under control.
And the three of us, we just all, that were working with him, we just all sort of thought, oh, you know, we'll see what happens with him because his act was just like...
It's just like anybody.
It's like just somebody trying to do a stand-up act and not...
I think Stanhope really turned a corner when he just started talking about his own experiences instead of trying to say, do you ever notice?
He's not an observational comic.
I mean, there's observations within what he's talking about because his stories are so interesting and he's such a funny guy.
joe rogan
Well, when you're young, it's like, what do you have to really talk about?
Well, that's the other thing.
I've always said that.
doug benson
I remember he had this one bit where he would talk about...
He would talk about...
He would describe how nasty an egg roll is and how much he doesn't like egg rolls.
And it's like, as an audience member, maybe 50-70% of the audience loves egg rolls.
So then it was just kind of like, you just kind of sit there going, well, he's got to figure out...
He's either got to have more of a personal take on why they're bad to convince us, or he's got to drop that because...
Egg rolls are awesome.
joe rogan
They're delicious.
doug benson
He was like, they're filled with mulch!
I remember that was one of his punchlines was just the word mulch.
You know how the weirdest things stick out when you work with somebody for a week.
There's some sentence or thing that they talked about that you remember.
I always remember that, but I've known him ever since then.
He just kept plowing away and became...
Such a powerful, funny comic.
joe rogan
Became himself.
Found himself, then became himself.
doug benson
Yeah, totally.
And kind of had sort of a hook of being the guy that's going to talk about some pretty horrifying things.
joe rogan
But Doug Stanhope is the real deal.
He's legit.
Doug Stanhope really is that guy.
He really does live in a crazy house.
It's painted weird colors.
His girlfriend really is crazy.
unidentified
Remember his American flag house?
joe rogan
She really is on all sorts of fucking crazy pills.
He's awesome.
brian redban
Remember his American flag house?
Yeah, dude.
joe rogan
Yeah, I was there when he used to have homeless people live on his fucking front lawn.
doug benson
Where is he?
Like Arizona or Utah or something?
joe rogan
He's in...
Well, should I even say?
I think he says everywhere.
unidentified
Oh, I guess you shouldn't say.
joe rogan
He does.
He lives in Arizona.
doug benson
But he tours and puts on his own, like he kind of, you know, does it his own way.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He does it all himself.
doug benson
He tours like a rock star.
Like he goes town to town.
joe rogan
Doug had a fucking house that was painted like an American flag in Venice.
And we would go party at his house when we were doing the man show.
He rented this house that was literally a fucking American flag.
brian redban
It was so weird.
joe rogan
And it was right on the street.
And he had this little fenced-in area in the front.
He would let homeless people stay there.
So he had this homeless couple that was staying there.
And the fucking woman stabbed the man.
And they got a video of her looking at her hands.
Because she had blood on her hands from the guy she stabbed.
And she had like an accent.
And she was like...
I'm a cunt, I'm a whore.
I'm a cunt, I'm a whore.
She kept saying something, something, I'm a cunt, I'm a whore.
And she was looking at her.
It was dark, dude.
This was all on Doug Stanhope's front lawn.
doug benson
That is horrible.
joe rogan
He was so crazy.
I was like, dude, you're hanging out with people who are probably severely imbalanced.
It's not just a matter of them being homeless.
A lot of the homeless people that you find on the streets are really people that were kicked out of mental institutions or got out of mental institutions and didn't have anybody to take care of them.
There's a lot of crazy people out there.
doug benson
Or just lost their mind randomly and didn't fit in anymore.
joe rogan
Slowly but surely eroded until that was their reality.
Their reality was they're the rats of society.
doug benson
That's funny that when I brought Doug up, I totally skipped that whole that you guys did a show together thing.
I knew you knew who he was because he's so funny, but I was talking about it like...
Yeah, you know, we both know Doug Stanhope, but you actually really know the guy.
Like, I, you know, have just run into him here and there over the years, and we've always been, you know, friendly.
And I just recently just told him, when you're in L.A., you know, let me know, because I want him on my podcast.
He's been on this, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
doug benson
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
He's awesome.
He's an unusual dude.
He's really doing it, too.
doug benson
His episode of the Louis C.K. show was great.
So, so good.
brian redban
Yeah.
That was weird seeing him like that, wasn't it?
doug benson
Yeah, but also it was an interesting amalgam of what he's really like and then some things that Louis just wrote for him to play that were, I guess, Louis just sort of rounding out the character in a dramatic way.
Because I don't know if...
I doubt Doug's ever gone to Louis and said, I'm going to kill myself.
brian redban
Right.
doug benson
It's been nice knowing you.
joe rogan
Doug's not going to do that, unless that was wrong, and then he would do that.
He would totally Hunter S. Thompson himself.
Hunter S. Thompson was done, man.
He had hip replacement surgery.
He was in constant pain.
He couldn't walk, couldn't swim.
He was fucked up, man.
He didn't like living life like that.
He was 60-something years old, and he was like, that's it.
unidentified
Boom!
joe rogan
Checkout time.
You know?
He decided to do it that way.
Doug would do that.
doug benson
You think?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, he would do that.
brian redban
You guys want to take bets?
doug benson
Yeah.
You can call him and make sure he's okay.
joe rogan
Well, you know, what's the alternative?
Let it slowly run out of batteries?
Die in the corner?
doug benson
I don't know, man.
joe rogan
Exactly.
That's the alternative.
doug benson
How's that vaporizer coming?
joe rogan
It's probably heated up by now.
Well, it still says red on it.
brian redban
I think that's not a special effect to me.
joe rogan
How long do you think we've been talking?
unidentified
20 minutes?
brian redban
An hour and five minutes.
doug benson
No way.
I bet you we have.
joe rogan
That's ridiculous.
This podcast is too easy.
Doug, you're...
doug benson
It's so much...
Podcasting is so much fun.
joe rogan
It's so much fun.
It's the most fun thing we've ever done, you know, as far as, like, the most honest connection with people, you know, and...
doug benson
Oh, yeah, you just sit there and talk.
joe rogan
Yeah, and for people, like, that are, like, working right now, you know, dude, I think it's the coolest thing ever.
I'm so happy that we can do something like this.
You know, entertainers want to entertain.
I mean, comics want to be funny.
People want to talk.
We love doing it.
So the fact that it's such an honest relationship.
We love doing it.
We put it out there.
It's free.
Boom, people enjoy it.
It's such a great relationship.
You know what I'm saying?
You're creating friends all over the place.
That's what you're doing.
And that's the people that come out to see you at the comedy clubs.
doug benson
We have shared friends now.
Yeah, totally.
Just this last weekend, it was funny because I was in Arizona in Flagstaff and then Phoenix, and I didn't know I was going to be doing the show this week.
I thought, oh, I'll be on again at some point.
I figured I'd be back here on the show, but I didn't know...
You called me yesterday or the day before, and we set this up.
So last weekend, over the course of a couple of shows, there's probably about a good 10, 15 people who said to me, go on Joe's show again, or I want to hear you on Joe's show again.
And I was just like, yeah, don't worry about it.
It'll happen.
And like, they're probably right now being like, what the fuck?
unidentified
That asshole didn't say he was gonna be on a couple days later.
joe rogan
Yeah, we don't really schedule this thing in advance, folks.
We keep this bitch as organic as possible.
doug benson
Yeah, but also you're dealing with the schedules of, you know, you mostly have your comedian friends who, you know, they're all in and out of town and have shit to do and Well, that's what the coolest thing about it is that, you know, most of us are around, if we're around, we're around, like, the days we do the podcast, like Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.
joe rogan
And now it really has an impact on guys' gigs, too.
Oh, yeah.
Especially Duncan.
Duncan's getting, like, some fucking sweet gigs.
He's getting in packing places, man.
Duncan sold out his first show ever in Seattle, and he was, like, tripping out.
He was, like, what the fuck, man?
unidentified
I can't believe it!
joe rogan
He goes, I got bonuses, man!
unidentified
Yeah.
doug benson
That's awesome.
joe rogan
He brought back Little Hobo, you know that puppet thing that he does?
Little Hobo?
doug benson
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, Little Hobo is one of my favorite bits ever.
brian redban
I love the new Hobo.
joe rogan
The doll itself, you mean?
Yeah, it's awesome.
Little Hobo is one of my all-time favorite bits.
And people either get it or they don't get it.
But either way, it's fun for me.
doug benson
I love it.
joe rogan
Even if they don't get uncomfortable.
doug benson
People get angry at comedy, it's so funny.
joe rogan
Well, if they get uncomfortable, sometimes it's even more fun.
Duncan says some dark shit in that bit.
I don't want to kill any of his punchlines.
doug benson
Yeah, don't do that.
joe rogan
There's a lot of people that hear that and go, what?
He had a bunch of people walk out on him in Atlanta, Georgia.
brian redban
Are you serious?
joe rogan
Yeah, this Christian couple got up and left.
He was talking about Jesus on stage.
unidentified
Oh, lordy.
joe rogan
Hey man, people have their beliefs.
They don't want you fucking with their beliefs.
They didn't come to a comedy show to get changed, goddammit.
They came to a comedy show to laugh.
You can't make everybody laugh.
You're no good, Mr. Comedian.
brian redban
Did you ever have family reunions growing up?
Where you met at a park with other parts of families that you didn't know you were connected to at all?
There was these like, wait, that's your second cousin to the left?
And you're like, what the fuck?
I'm related to that person?
joe rogan
Yeah, now that you recall, yeah, in New Jersey, I guess, when I was really young, we did have a few of those.
I was really young, though.
This was before I was six, so I barely remember it.
Like, you said it, and it makes me, like, have little flashes that might not even be real, you know?
brian redban
They were put in there.
Yeah.
joe rogan
I talk about this on stage before, but it is true.
I remember one vivid moment when I was young, because everybody was mad at me, because I hit my cousin with a bag of cookies.
And everybody was mad because the cookies went flying.
And I remember looking at the cookies in the dirt.
I'm like, shit.
I fucked up.
But I was like four.
And people were angry at me.
And I remember that.
It's amazing that there could be even a semi-vivid memory.
I mean, when you say, like, I have a vivid memory of it, what is it?
Really?
I mean, how much are you extrapolating?
How much are you exaggerating?
How vivid is it really?
doug benson
Well, it was big enough in the first place to some form of it has stayed in your mind.
Something, yeah.
Like, because that's the thing that's crazy to me is, like, whenever somebody remembers a ton of stuff from when they were little, I'm always kind of...
I'm baffled by that.
I think it's almost like they're just sort of taking what they kind of remember and then just going ahead and filling out the story.
joe rogan
Exactly.
I think that is a lot of what happens.
I don't think our memory is that fucking good.
And I think they don't understand really where memory is stored.
The issue with memory and the brain is that they believe that every seven years, virtually every cell in the body is regenerated and reborn anew.
So there's a new version.
In seven years, every cell is different than the seven years before, except the neurons.
And so they don't know if the memory is stored somehow in the neurons or if it's just sort of handed down like files.
Like every seven years you get a new administration comes in and goes, look, this is the past.
This is the uncle that fucked them.
This is the thing that happened in second grade.
This is the car accident.
All this is you got to remember this.
You got it?
unidentified
You got it?
joe rogan
And then they take it and seven years later when they die out...
doug benson
Yeah, that's why you have pockets of things you don't remember or things you remembered at one point and don't remember anymore.
joe rogan
Dude, whole episodes of my life I don't remember.
I watched an old Fear Factory run.
I had no recollection of any of it.
And it was only 10 years ago.
And I'm watching.
I don't remember this.
I don't remember this happening.
I don't remember this.
brian redban
This is weird.
I have the two earliest memories I have.
One is breaking a pickle jar at a grocery store, like one of those huge ones.
And I just remember it being scary.
I remember like doing it and stuff like that and falling in.
I think it was like two or three when it happened.
And the other one is getting attacked by a bunch of chickens at this farm and I got pecked.
I think I've said that before where I got pecked and I have a scar in between my nose because I was near a chicken nest.
joe rogan
If that was me, I would be eating chicken every day.
I'd be going to Kentucky Fried Chicken every fucking day with one hand on my dick.
brian redban
Right.
But both of those memories, I remember.
Like, I remember that happening.
I remember the pickle jar.
I remember being attacked by chickens.
But I don't remember it in first person.
I remember it kind of being above and looking down at myself.
joe rogan
Wow, man.
Well, that's the files.
You got handed down the third-person view.
doug benson
But also, were those both stories that the family liked to tell?
Like, remember when you broke that huge pickle jar?
brian redban
Not really.
Like, every time I bring it up to my mom...
doug benson
She has no idea.
brian redban
She has no idea.
I have to, like, remember her.
doug benson
Yeah, because that wasn't an important file for her when she was...
She didn't need to remember that.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's brutal when your parents don't remember important shit that happened to you.
brian redban
That's a big thing.
Breaking a pickle jar?
Come on.
joe rogan
Poor little Brian could have been dead.
Could have fell on the sharpest point of that glass.
And it could have been over.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
You could have died, right?
brian redban
If it cut me a night.
joe rogan
I almost fell off a cliff.
unidentified
Balls.
joe rogan
I almost fell off a cliff in San Francisco.
I was like eight years old.
unidentified
Are you serious?
joe rogan
Yeah.
And my father grabbed me at the very last second.
brian redban
He's your angel.
joe rogan
Yep.
Yeah.
There's some cliffs near San Francisco.
There's some little areas where you walk down near the beach that are really kind of sketchy.
There's some areas where you could fall down and really fuck yourself up, man.
You could die.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
That whole Pacific Coast Highway is so immensely fucking beautiful, but so scary.
You ever drive the PCH down to San Francisco?
unidentified
Whoa!
joe rogan
Is that wild?
Doesn't that make your balls just tingle?
They're crackling.
What is that stuff?
The snap pop rocks?
Remember pop rocks?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Remember that would do to your mouth?
Yeah.
That's what it makes your balls feel like when you're going around that whole Pacific Coast Highway looking at that fucking cliff, that fucking drop that's right there!
It's right there and it's forever and the ground moves around this bitch all the time.
It's like you're essentially playing a game of musical chairs.
You're just hoping you can get from this point to that point where the really thin fucking outcropping that your little metal box is driving around with nothing to stop you from just driving right the fuck off the thing into the ground and the rocks and the ocean.
doug benson
You ever drive it in a storm?
joe rogan
Oh my god, you did?
doug benson
Yeah, I've had situations where it's like the waves are crashing up on it.
joe rogan
I was stone cold sober.
It was a sunny day.
I was wide awake and I was still shitting my pants.
I was like, this is a crazy drive, man.
It's weird to look at.
It's just a mindfuck.
It's a mindfuck.
It's just a little...
You wanna die?
You know?
Or someone's coming at you.
You're trusting this other asshole that you don't even know to not be texting right now, to not be fingering himself.
You know?
doug benson
Drunk.
joe rogan
Yeah, drunk.
brian redban
Vodka tampons with pop rocks up your ass.
unidentified
Falling asleep.
Yes.
doug benson
All of those at once.
joe rogan
All of those at once.
Everything.
A tsunami of bad luck coming your way, and you're in the left-hand lane, and you get bumped off into the fucking great blue yonder of the ocean floor.
Fuck, man.
That's a crazy way to drive.
I like to have less worry about death in my drives.
brian redban
Driving's always scary to me.
I mean, just today I was driving and there was fucking like a sandbag truck overturned or something like that.
And there were just sandbags everywhere on the highway out of nowhere.
Like you're just driving all these sandbags everywhere.
joe rogan
Dude, I hit a fucking, one of those railroad ties, those iron things.
What are those?
The tracks, not a tie, a track.
A section of track someone had dropped on the fucking highway.
unidentified
Jesus.
joe rogan
I was driving, and I saw it last minute.
I saw this thing, and I was like, oh, fuck!
Like, I remember gripping with both hands.
There's no way I could turn.
If I tried to turn, I would have flipped the car.
You know, it was just too close.
And I hit it, and the car launched into the air.
The car went, ba-ba!
unidentified
Boom!
joe rogan
And blew the fucking tires right off the rims.
I think at least one of them literally was shredded.
And I drove on rims to the next exit and got out and just called the tow truck and had it dealt with.
But it was a spooky moment, man.
I hit that fucking thing.
I saw it last minute.
I'm like, oh fuck, that's metal!
You know, it's like that thing.
unidentified
Jesus!
That sucks.
Ba-bang!
joe rogan
Fucking, oh my god.
I'm lucky it didn't.
You know, sometimes when you drive over something, too, you can rip out the bottom of your car.
It could come up and it could go into the bottom of your car.
doug benson
You can drop a tranny real easy.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah.
I always wanted to say that in adult life.
He dropped his tranny.
In high school, guys would blow their fucking transmission apart doing donuts.
It was a common thing.
Guys would fuck up their trannies.
We'd hear them driving the next day and hear the transmission.
Because guys were doing smoke shows.
doug benson
In San Diego, when I was in high school, there was this street where it was kind of like a San Francisco-style street where it went pretty steep and then straight for just a bit and then steep again.
and you could get air if you wanted to going down it.
And so we would intentionally drive fast enough to get the car up into the air, and it's the dumbest thing you could do.
joe rogan
Most people don't know.
doug benson
But we all got away with it because everyone just did it a few times.
brian redban
It's the Dukes of Hazzard.
doug benson
You didn't keep trying it.
joe rogan
Did you ever fuck your car up?
Did you ever break anything?
doug benson
No.
One time on another hill driving with some friends, as a joke, or not as a joke, for whatever reason I was trying to throw the car into neutral, and I threw it into reverse while going quickly downhill.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
doug benson
And the fucking noise that that made was insane.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
doug benson
And I immediately had to just pull the car over and get it towed and get it fixed.
joe rogan
You just exploded your transmission.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
doug benson
Just really...
joe rogan
They shouldn't be able to go there.
It shouldn't be able to go into reverse.
doug benson
I know, right?
You shouldn't be able to do that, but it was like an old...
It was like an AMC Hornet.
joe rogan
Oh.
doug benson
And it was a pretty dumb car.
joe rogan
Yeah, why are you going in a forward direction?
Isn't there a way to engineer some sort of a way that that doesn't just...
doug benson
I think you can't anymore.
I don't think you...
The new cars can't?
Yeah, you have to kind of...
You move it to the side, you know, it's almost like a stick shift where you have to kind of...
brian redban
It's like a medicine bottle.
doug benson
...work it into each level or whatever.
But, you know, I was a kid, you know, teenager.
joe rogan
You were a silly little goose.
doug benson
Goofing around.
Oh, I did so much silly shit when I was a kid.
joe rogan
It's amazing that kids should be allowed to drive cars.
doug benson
Oh, so now when I'm driving around, whenever I get cut off by somebody that looks like they're 15, 16, I'm just like, they're such assholes.
Also, when I was that age, I was an asshole driver, but all I had was maybe an occasional fast food from the drive-in.
I didn't have texting.
I didn't have headphones on.
All the distractions of today.
I can't believe that there's anywhere in a car that has a TV. It's not like a limo that's being driven by a professional.
You know what I mean?
Just even if you have your kids in the backseat watching some shit on TV, wouldn't that be an extra distraction that...
joe rogan
No, it's the opposite.
doug benson
It could be dangerous or you just like how focused it makes the kids.
joe rogan
The kids zone out.
The kids are done.
doug benson
But you definitely don't need a TV up above the rearview mirror.
joe rogan
No, that's stupid.
doug benson
Those are ridiculous.
joe rogan
You can't see.
That's how it is.
I rented a car.
I rented a...
Was it Escalator or Navigator?
And that's what the TV was.
The TV would come down in the center and it would block the view.
You couldn't see.
You look over your rear view.
brian redban
You're like in a U-Haul.
doug benson
Do they say only to watch it when you're not in motion?
joe rogan
No, you're supposed to watch it in motion because that's when it tunes them out.
But the better ones are on the headsets.
And now they have them on the headsets where each one is watching a different thing.
So they can watch different things.
unidentified
And they have headphones?
joe rogan
They have headphones.
Yeah, dude.
When you have, let me tell you something, you have a three and a half year old, that's the perfect shit.
They just zonk out.
No more questions.
It's just they watch Dora the Explorer and they have a good old fucking time.
So they don't even mind driving.
They don't mind driving because driving for them is like going to the movies.
They have cool little DVDs they watch, and they have a good time.
And the DVDs, you can get little educational ones.
So it's actually good for them.
I love it.
There's like, your kid can read and shit.
Kids are going to be way smarter today than we were.
We didn't get access to anything until we were fucking...
brian redban
It's going to be cool in the future.
I bet the babies are going to be so smart at such a young age that they're going to be able to drive cars for you.
So they're going to be, as a kid, being able to just sit there.
joe rogan
Brian, your baby's never going to be able to drive for you.
unidentified
That was a classic Brian misfiring of the mind.
joe rogan
Well, you didn't think about that at all.
I'm pretty sure babies out of the womb are just going to drive.
brian redban
You never know.
joe rogan
They're going to drive everyone around.
brian redban
Driving is going to be so easy because it's all going to have magnets around your whole car that they just have to push one button for like on or something.
joe rogan
Brian, you're such a silly man.
You're such a silly man.
Why do you want more babies?
I need more drivers.
I need more people driving me around that I don't have to teach anything to.
brian redban
And no one would want to have sex with the Asians.
joe rogan
It would just be a matter of you need life experience, but you have full intelligence right away.
You just need life experience.
So we make you work as a driver for the first couple years of the womb.
doug benson
People are going to be dumber smarter.
In some areas, they're going to be dumber because some things are going to become obsolete.
You're not going to ever need to know a phone number.
Math, maybe, but hopefully people are still in math.
joe rogan
That is adaptation, right?
I mean, that's what's going on.
We're adapting to this new environment.
We're adapting to these new needs.
You know, it's unquestionably something is happening.
And that something is that we're getting into a symbiotic relationship with technology.
doug benson
But can you imagine how much space in your brain...
Is available that would 15, 20 years ago be full of phone numbers?
That you don't need to remember anymore?
joe rogan
But don't you remember a lot of different things now?
Don't you think that you have a lot of information that you get through the internet that you probably would never get before?
You know, a lot of people, it was difficult for them to be stimulated in the days before the internet.
But today, there's not a time in the world where I'm in an airport that has Wi-Fi where I'm bored.
doug benson
Yeah, but you know, I love airport Wi-Fi.
unidentified
You know what I'm saying?
doug benson
You can really just sit there and...
You can either goof around or get stuff done, but either way, you're killing the time so much better.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're enjoying yourself.
You're actually having a good time.
You're getting entertained.
brian redban
But you are also using it different than some people use the internet.
A lot of people just go on there, play cards, and talk about video games.
joe rogan
But even then, say if you have an hour to kill and you're at the airport, you log on to your favorite video game forum and you find out what the hell's going on.
It's entertaining.
And then boom, your time's gone.
doug benson
You listen to podcasts.
joe rogan
Hey, come on!
It's a very interesting progression to try to look ahead to.
It's like, where the fuck is this going to go next?
What is the next symbiotic relationship between human beings and technology?
Because the cell phone is pretty much a part of your fucking body.
So what's next?
brian redban
Fake people having sex robots.
joe rogan
Actual fake people.
brian redban
Fleshlights that have emotions.
joe rogan
It's a fucking singularity, man.
doug benson
But what's the emotions?
brian redban
No, you can turn it off.
joe rogan
The emotions would get people dick-hard.
doug benson
I do like porn where everybody seems to be having fun more than porn where people seem to be, you know...
brian redban
I just watched a horrible porn the other day that was just rape porn.
joe rogan
Some people like watching porn where people fight and then they fuck.
And then when they fuck, they get back at each other and then resolve their issues through fucking.
People like those, they like videos like that.
People are actually angry at each other because that's when they have their best sex.
A lot of people have the best sex they ever have is makeup sex.
There's girls that will like, I firmly believe, they have learned to start fights so that the man will step in, argue with them for a little bit, then they resolve everything, they make up, they say they love you, and then they fuck and they love it.
And they have like super extra charged fucking.
So I think they start problems, and men and women, I'm sure.
doug benson
Because they like a story.
That's why women can read pornographic things and men need to see them.
joe rogan
Exactly.
doug benson
Women like the story.
Women like what leads up to having, you know, that's why the foreplay is so important.
joe rogan
They like drama.
doug benson
Yeah.
joe rogan
Crazy freaks.
doug benson
They like it to have a beginning, middle, and an end, and then the end has to go on for longer than we want it to.
joe rogan
Have you ever thought what it would be like to be a woman for a day?
brian redban
Of course.
unidentified
I'm just kidding.
brian redban
Right.
unidentified
As soon as he hears that microwave with the cantaloupe ding, Brian's life would be not much different.
joe rogan
He would just be a lesbian.
brian redban
No, I've said this before.
When I was younger, I would look at my boobs and act like they were real boobs and then just try to kiss them.
But that's about as close as to being like...
doug benson
But that's the question, though.
Are you a girl for a day who wants cock?
joe rogan
Yeah, you've got to go for the whole experience.
You should get fucked, too.
doug benson
I wouldn't want that at all.
It'd probably be interesting to feel what it would feel like to get fucked, but I couldn't stop thinking about how there's a dick in me.
joe rogan
Yeah, and in your mouth, too.
Because you're going to have to suck it, too.
unidentified
No, thank you.
doug benson
No, thanks.
brian redban
Imagine feeling what a period would be like.
doug benson
When I'm a girl for a day, I'm going to convert to being, don't they say, Jewish girls don't like to blow hands?
joe rogan
No, Jewish girls love to do it.
That's crazy.
doug benson
Oh, okay.
joe rogan
They say they don't like to.
That's nonsense.
doug benson
And then I'll love it.
joe rogan
Oh, God.
doug benson
Wait, isn't there some sort of girls that don't like to blow dudes?
Or is that just girls in general?
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
There's always going to be dudes complaining.
doug benson
Because that's what's fun about porn, that you can't often get a girl that you're just hooking up with or whatever.
In porn, they often act like it's the most delicious thing you could have, sucking a cock.
And most girls are just sort of like, just doing what they've got to do to get it over with.
joe rogan
Some girls know.
Some girls love dick.
You've got to find them.
You know, it's kind of gross if a girl's sucking your cock and she doesn't want to.
doug benson
Well, I'm not saying doesn't want to.
Like, wants to please you, but also doesn't think this is the most delicious thing she's ever had in her mouth.
joe rogan
But don't you like eating pussy?
Don't you like eating pussy?
unidentified
I do.
doug benson
I love it.
But I think I love the pleasing the person or maybe a little sense of control is the most important part.
Sense of control.
Than how it tastes and looks and feels.
Those are all good too, but I think that it's more like it's just fun because that's a great way to please a woman.
joe rogan
Doug Benson putting it out there, bitches.
unidentified
He'll eat your ass.
joe rogan
Doug Benson will eat your ass.
unidentified
You will.
joe rogan
How often do you eat ass?
doug benson
Oh, you know.
joe rogan
Whenever it's there, whenever the mood is right.
doug benson
Breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
joe rogan
Whenever the time is right.
doug benson
Maybe some brunch, maybe some happy hour.
joe rogan
Yeah, maybe some after-dinner ass-eating.
doug benson
What does that mean, eating ass?
joe rogan
Licking a girl's asshole.
doug benson
Yeah, I don't really...
brian redban
You don't like that?
joe rogan
I love when people, when you talk about something, they go, yeah, and then they say, no.
doug benson
No, no.
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't do that.
brian redban
Oh, dude, it's awesome.
Frenching it?
joe rogan
No, but that's an immediate reaction.
You know, when someone says, yeah, I don't think so.
That's what that Sandusky guy should have said when they asked him, are you attracted to young boys?
Yeah, I don't think so.
doug benson
No, instead he's like, ask me again if I eat a lot of ass.
joe rogan
Do you eat a lot of ass?
doug benson
Do I eat a lot of ass?
No, I don't eat a lot of ass.
That is the world's biggest ass eater.
unidentified
That's a world champion ass-eater with stacks of trophies behind him.
brian redban
I don't eat enough.
joe rogan
There should totally be trophies for the best ass-eating.
That's a goddamn adventure.
You can get trophies for parasailing.
You should get trophies for ass-eating.
Why not?
Ass-eating contests?
If the world were free and we weren't so worried about things, pornography could be judged on the merits of technique.
brian redban
0% toilet paper in the ass is always important.
joe rogan
That's very important.
Toilet paper, when you go down on a grill and you find toilet paper just dangling off her ass, it's so disturbing.
doug benson
See, that's probably one of the things that keeps me out of that region.
So many ways it could backfire.
brian redban
I stuff it back in so it's not to ruin anything.
I don't want her to be upset.
joe rogan
When you get a little stubble, it's like essentially, you know, it's like a little bit of sandpaper.
You rub some...
Toilet paper on some sandpaper, you're going to leave some residue.
doug benson
Do you like stuff in your ass?
brian redban
No.
No.
unidentified
The way you said that...
brian redban
No, I'm actually very scared of my ass.
joe rogan
The way you said that was like, this is the end of a long conversation.
Do you like stuff in your ass?
brian redban
I'm very scared of my ass.
I don't know.
As I grew older, it's just...
doug benson
Well, that's good, I guess, though.
brian redban
In my meat diet.
doug benson
That's good.
joe rogan
Your meat diet?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
How often do you eat vegetables?
brian redban
I eat them every day, but that's just...
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
Dude, what you should do is what I do.
brian redban
I think I have a sweet allergy.
I just need a test.
joe rogan
Get on the kale shakes, son.
I'm telling you.
It's not delicious.
doug benson
It can't be, but I don't mind eating kale so much.
I kind of pick that up every once in a while, like the Whole Foods or something.
unidentified
Yeah.
doug benson
Like along with the piece of meat or something.
brian redban
Yeah.
doug benson
It's not bad, but a shake of that?
joe rogan
Kevin James turned me on to this shit, and he started doing it and lost like 80 pounds.
And what he's doing is...
Essentially, it takes cucumbers, kale, celery.
This is how I do it.
Cucumbers, kale, celery.
And I put a chunk of ginger in there, too, and a whole pear.
brian redban
See, I don't do the ginger anymore.
It drives me crazy.
I think I hate ginger.
joe rogan
I like that.
doug benson
You should put some ass in there.
joe rogan
Yeah, put a little ass in there, Brian.
I like the sting of ginger.
I like that.
brian redban
It's strong.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's very spicy, but I like that.
It's good for you.
So anyway, I blend it all up in this Vitamix thing.
You ever see a Vitamix?
It's like a mixer designed to pulverize.
It's not really juicing because it's just chopping the living fuck out of all these vegetables until it's like a soup.
And then you drink this soup and it's not bad.
It doesn't taste bad.
It's just sort of a task.
doug benson
And you lose weight because you're just eating pure vegetables and there's nothing bad in it.
unidentified
You feel great.
joe rogan
You feel it's a giant serving of vegetables, like much more vegetables probably than you would ever really eat.
doug benson
Oh yeah, I have to force myself to eat most vegetables.
joe rogan
You're not going to eat like six giant leaves of kale, ten stalks of celery, a whole cucumber.
It's rare that you would eat that many vegetables in one sitting.
You could do it, but this is even better because it's completely taking the whole chewing down process out.
So you're digesting it, you're swallowing it, and it's like just...
Incinerated, just chopped up into little tiny-ass pieces, and it's like really easily absorbed by your body.
And your shit's magnifico.
The shit's become amazing.
doug benson
Yeah, because you're drinking.
joe rogan
You're so lubed up, too, though, dude.
Your whole system is just...
Whatever you have, if you have a steak later, it slides out like a toboggan.
unidentified
Whoop!
brian redban
I got a great drink for your Vitamix, Joe.
This is a late night drink with some food.
Vodka, ice, red seedless grapes, like a lot of red seedless grapes, and a little bit, two apples.
And it's kind of like grape vodka, but it's got a little bit of a texture to it.
It's cool.
joe rogan
Wow, I love that.
That's a great idea.
So you make a little smoothie?
brian redban
Make a little smoothie, yeah.
And if you have any nut...
What's that sweetener that's made out of cactus or something like that?
If you have any of that, put that in there.
joe rogan
Stevia, you know?
brian redban
Yeah, you can use stevia too.
joe rogan
Oh, agave.
brian redban
Agave.
Yeah, I use agave.
joe rogan
I heard agave is not so good for you.
brian redban
Why not?
joe rogan
I don't know.
I read that somewhere.
I need to research that.
Somebody said that agave is not good for you.
brian redban
I think like any artificial sweeteners.
doug benson
Isn't that a kind of tequila agave?
joe rogan
Well, I think they make tequila out of it.
But it's a plant.
Agave is a plant.
And it's a real sweet plant.
Somehow or another they make tequila out of that.
doug benson
I somehow see that word associated with tequila.
joe rogan
I made lemonade the other day with it.
With agave.
It's really delicious.
But I was drinking it and I was like, it's probably not so good for you.
brian redban
Why?
joe rogan
I don't know.
Stevia is supposed to be good for you, but stevia to me is not like a real sweet taste.
It's like a trick sweet.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's almost like an aspirate.
What was that old shit?
Sweet and Low.
Remember how Sweet and Low had that funky fucking...
It was kind of sweet, but kind of funky.
brian redban
I kind of like it, though, better than any of it.
But the problem I have is they need to have it at more places.
Like Starbucks seems like it should have it.
Why doesn't Starbucks have Stevia?
joe rogan
Well, I don't think people...
I think it's a taste issue.
I don't prefer the taste of it.
I think it's probably something you can get used to, but I don't like sweetened things.
I don't mind things being not sweet.
You know what I mean?
Like coffee, I don't want coffee sweetened.
I don't sweeten iced tea.
I just drink it, you know?
doug benson
Yeah, I don't put any extra shit into pretty much anything.
brian redban
Really?
doug benson
Yeah.
joe rogan
Do you watch your health?
Do you take care of yourself?
doug benson
You know, I go through periods that are, you know, I kind of go up and down.
I don't think I've ever eaten cake in bed.
joe rogan
Never?
brian redban
Uh-uh.
doug benson
I don't think so.
joe rogan
What about in the tub?
doug benson
I don't think I've ever eaten food in the tub.
joe rogan
That's the cat in the hat comes back, eats cake in the tub, and it becomes a mess.
That motherfucker.
doug benson
Do you paraphrase it that way when you read that to your children?
joe rogan
It's my kids' favorite stories.
They're fun.
I get into them.
I get into the cat in the hat ones.
They're brilliantly written stuff.
brian redban
Do you have frog and toad?
You gotta get them in the frog and toad.
joe rogan
Okay.
brian redban
That's the best.
Remember that?
joe rogan
Frog and toad.
brian redban
Yeah.
About a frog and a toad that lived together.
joe rogan
Sort of vaguely remember that.
doug benson
Oh, and they're trying to cross the highway and you have to get them to the lily pads.
brian redban
No.
doug benson
Oh, that's Frogger.
brian redban
It's weird that a frog would hang with a toad.
doug benson
Yeah, they're different, yet so the same.
joe rogan
We're lucky frogs are little.
Those cunts.
You know how evil frogs would be if they were big?
They would just be taking kids right out of your arms.
brian redban
Have you seen big frogs?
They're pretty big.
joe rogan
I mean big.
Like real big.
Like dog-sized.
If frogs were huge, they would eat babies.
brian redban
I was researching frogs a long time ago because of licking frogs.
And so I got really into frogs.
And they have Pac-Man frogs.
Have you ever seen Pac-Man frogs?
Their mouths open up like a Pac-Man.
joe rogan
Frogs are ruthless motherfuckers.
They eat like mice sometimes.
I might have made that up.
brian redban
No, they do.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
How about the fact that frogs eat dogs?
brian redban
Have you ever seen those frogs that eat dogs?
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
How about the fact that people take frogs and they get high with them?
brian redban
Yeah, that's why I was researching frogs because I was going to buy frogs off eBay a long time ago.
It was something like that.
joe rogan
You can buy that.
I don't know if they made that frog illegal yet.
What is the frog that does it?
It produces 5-MeO-DMT. It's really incredibly potent hallucinogen.
And what you do is you take this frog and the skin excretes like some sort of a white milky substance and you do it on a window of a car.
So that it's in the sun, or anything glass that's outside, like a glass coffee table.
You secrete it, and then when it dries off, you scrape it with a razor blade, and it becomes a white powder.
You put it in something, you freebase it, and you blast off.
unidentified
Do-do-do!
joe rogan
Do-do-do-do-do-do!
unidentified
Welcome to the center of the universe, provided by a frog.
brian redban
Do you think that's why the end of the world is going to be a bunch of frogs flying on us?
Because we're all going to start tripping off these frogs?
Because it's going to be frogs everywhere, and then we're going to go into this DM tree trip.
joe rogan
That's unlikely.
doug benson
I'm tripping off of how Joe says hallucinogen.
joe rogan
Hallucinogen?
Hallucinogen.
Hallucinogen.
That's the correct pronunciation.
doug benson
Hallucinogen is what I'm used to.
joe rogan
Hallucinogen is good as well.
It's like nuclear or nucular.
doug benson
No, those aren't two.
You don't have options on that one.
joe rogan
Nuclear options?
If I said nuclear, would you correct me?
doug benson
It's like often and often.
joe rogan
Nuclear.
doug benson
Coupon and coupon.
joe rogan
Nuclear bombs.
Nuclear bombs.
doug benson
I don't think I would correct you out loud.
I would just assume you're...
joe rogan
You're an idiot.
doug benson
No, I just assume you're...
You know, like...
You hear them both ways so often...
Of all the dumb things that George Bush said and did, that one to me was like, well, but a lot of people say it the wrong way.
So you just get used to it.
It's just like old expressions that now people say them the wrong way.
joe rogan
What about when English people write things different?
Their correct tires is T-Y-R-E-S. I kept seeing that written in an English magazine.
I was like, why the fuck are they writing tires?
brian redban
World is spelled W-R-O-L-D instead of W-O-R-L-D. World?
Yeah, world.
It's pronounced world.
doug benson
Like wrong?
brian redban
Yeah, like wrong.
joe rogan
Did you just make that up?
brian redban
I always get...
I say world and everyone gives me shit.
joe rogan
So you make that up?
brian redban
No.
joe rogan
It's not spelled W-R. No.
brian redban
Yeah, I made it up.
doug benson
You made that up.
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
You motherfucker.
doug benson
They just said U. Color.
joe rogan
They have a U in color.
doug benson
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's a bunch of different...
doug benson
It's funny, when you're reading tweets, you don't even have to look to see where the person's from when it's got those things in it.
joe rogan
Well, they also say, cheers, mate.
And they always say, you're a legend.
You're a legend, mate.
doug benson
I think that's just you, Joe.
Because you are a legend.
joe rogan
No, they love that expression.
doug benson
They love brilliant.
They say brilliant a lot.
joe rogan
Yeah, brilliant is great.
That's another one they do.
brian redban
Retard.
doug benson
Cunt.
They like to say cunt.
brian redban
I like how you publicly announced that when you ban people on Twitter.
You're like, you are banned.
doug benson
No, blocked.
But sometimes I'm just kidding.
Sometimes I'll just take some dumb tweet that Kim Kardashian wrote or something and I'll say, blocked.
Or somebody will write something to me that's actually kind of nice and I'll write blocked just to be silly and I'll write to them and say, I didn't really block you, I just...
I just wanted to retweet what you said, but I also...
I don't like just retweeting compliments and stuff, because I just think that that's just...
joe rogan
Oh, so you retweet a compliment and then say blocked?
That's funny.
doug benson
Yeah, because then everybody gets a laugh out of it, like, oh, he's such an asshole, that guy that said that nice thing.
But I just think that there's just too many people that just want...
They're all about getting retweets and begging for them, and it's just like...
joe rogan
That's kind of whack, dude, the whole retweet thing.
I respond to people as much as I can, but that is kind of whack.
doug benson
Yeah, you're good with people, though.
You answer questions and stuff.
I just get the same questions all the time.
People always ask me, because I follow 420 people, I thought that'd be a funny thing on my page that says I follow 420 people, but then also, that's about how many people I want to follow, like if there's somebody that I'm not interested in anymore.
And I want to add somebody, I'll drop somebody and add them.
I just keep it at 420. Oh, that's hilarious.
And then a lot of people get it right away.
They don't ask to be added because they're like, I don't want to ruin your 420 thing, dude, but I'd love it if you added me or whatever.
joe rogan
Dude, is anybody more connected to the pop movement than you?
doug benson
I don't know.
I'm not as political as people might want me to be about it.
Although I've got some news for you guys that I'd love to share with your listeners slash viewers.
joe rogan
Sure.
doug benson
In Missouri...
For 2012, there's a chance of getting outright legalization on the ballot.
joe rogan
Really?
doug benson
Yeah.
They're skipping over the medical thing.
They just need X number of signatures.
It's not that many.
They just need a certain number of signatures to get it to happen, and they need the signatures by May.
So if you're in Missouri, get a hold of your local normal chapter, N-O-R-M-L. That's how Brian's always spelt normal.
joe rogan
How many?
doug benson
And just make sure you find out where you can go, because it has to be physical signatures, which is the most fucked up thing in this computer age.
People should be able to sign petitions now on their computer.
joe rogan
Yeah, online.
doug benson
And some do.
The conservatives get lots of good Marijuana is legal in Denver.
Pretty much, yeah.
joe rogan
Denver.
doug benson
Can't they give you some sort of ticket?
joe rogan
They don't.
doug benson
If you're blowing it on a schoolyard.
joe rogan
I think it's one of those things where they can't.
I'm sure you're not supposed to be out there publicly drinking, just like you're not supposed to be out there publicly smoking pot.
But they do it in Denver.
doug benson
People are pretty chill.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're not stopping people at all.
doug benson
There's a lot of cities, and there's 16 states in Washington, D.C. that are medical, but then a lot of cities, it's been kind of quietly...
Is it 16 states now?
I think so, yeah.
I think it's been kind of quietly decriminalized in a lot of places.
joe rogan
A lot of those states, though, it's really hard to get a license.
It's not as easy as it is in California.
doug benson
Oh, yeah, and it's really hard to...
The whole dispensary system isn't in place.
And that's the problem currently in California is that the feds are again threatening to basically close down dispensaries.
And then the question is, well, where are the patients?
Because they seem to be okay with patients at this point.
Like if you're a medical marijuana patient, you should be able to get it.
But where are the patients going to get it if they close down the dispensaries?
joe rogan
I guess they're supposed to grow their own or have some sort of co-op.
I think the concern from the law enforcement is that there's a lot of profit being made that is not supposed to be according to the way the law is structured.
You're not supposed to be able to profit as much as these people are profiting.
But the bottom line is, that should be the very last thing that law enforcement is devoting its resources to.
You know no one's getting hurt there.
Yeah, it's a waste.
So all your attention should be devoted to crime.
All your attention should be devoted to reckless drivers, drunk drivers, crime, assault, And violent crime associated with marijuana would go away if it was legal.
Yeah, just leave it alone and I swear everything will be better.
It's really simple.
There's other shit to concentrate on.
But I think also that in some cases places need arrests.
They need to make arrests, and it's a fucking easy collar.
It's not hard.
No one's going to shoot you when you're closing down a pot store.
You know, you go there, you bring guys who are dressed like they're ready to go to war in Afghanistan, and they fucking go in there with machine guns, and they clear everything out, and they take everything.
And it's crazy, man.
You know, the ones that they had in LA a few years back, where they had the guys who had Blackwater uniforms on, they were Blackwater guys.
They hired mercenaries to go in there and clean up and close down these pot shops.
And you're like, what?!
doug benson
Those are the weirdest raids.
Do you remember that, though?
joe rogan
Do you remember the Blackwater shit?
doug benson
In Super Jaime, we show two different raids, and one of the biggest laughs in the movies, unfortunately not me speaking, somebody that's just a protester advocate that's hanging outside a place that's being raided...
Yells at the guys as they're walking downstairs with boxes full of marijuana and money.
Yells at him, go bust a meth lab, you pussies.
joe rogan
No shit.
No shit.
It's so easy.
It's an easy collar.
It's weak.
You know, it's wrong.
doug benson
And I'm sure a lot of the guys that are involved in doing those things, again, they're just following orders.
Absolutely.
I get people in law enforcement more and more saying hey to me and winking at me and saying I like your work and stuff.
brian redban
Kissing on the lips.
doug benson
A lot of making out.
I just will not.
I just draw the line at eating their ass.
joe rogan
Don't draw that line, bro.
doug benson
I gotta try it.
I just think of asses as being, you know, a very juvenile attitude towards asses.
brian redban
Make them do a stripper shower before they eat it.
doug benson
And I don't want anything in my ass, even a nice soft tongue.
joe rogan
I always say the cops don't get nearly enough credit, and there's a divide between the citizens and the police that doesn't have to exist.
It's ridiculous.
They should be supported.
People support troops, but very few people support cops.
There's bad cops, for sure, but it's a small percentage.
doug benson
We get to see how good cops are, though, because we're usually in situations where it's sort of, you know, especially you, like where you see a lot of law enforcement that's like kind of, they're sort of protecting you in just being out in public and stuff, right? they're sort of protecting you in just being out in I don't really have cops protecting me when I'm out in public.
No, but I mean, when they see you, they're like, you're a celebrity to them.
So you're like, the last thing their cops are going to do is hassle you.
joe rogan
Well, that's true.
But they, you know, also, when I got pulled over when I wasn't a celebrity, I'm polite.
You asked me a question.
No, sir.
You asked me for my license.
doug benson
I give it to you.
It's true.
joe rogan
You do everything.
I'm being respectful.
doug benson
Yeah, I've gotten out of a few arrest situations by just being polite.
joe rogan
If a cop knows you're legitimately respectful, they appreciate that.
Look, man, that's the fucking job.
The job is we agree.
That guy gets the gun and the fucking flashing lights, and you listen to him.
Yes, sir.
No, sir.
And that means you're a good citizen and you're not trying to fucking cause any trouble.
And in turn, he doesn't take advantage of this power that's presented to him by this willingness for people to obey.
And he doesn't automatically assume that everybody owes it to him.
And that's the problem with older cops.
That's the problem with these white shirt cunts that you see punching people in these Occupy Wall Street crowds.
They think they can punch people.
There's ones, and it's not all of them, it's just a small fraction of them, but they feel like they're better than people.
They feel like they've been ordering people around.
People have been forced to listen to them so long that they have a complex.
They've been involved in law enforcement for 30 years and you have to fucking listen to them.
doug benson
Yeah.
joe rogan
They're bullies.
They're bullies.
You give people ultimate power, you're going to get ultimate corruption.
We all know that.
And even though you don't think of that as corruption, that is absolutely corruption.
When that guy in that white shirt in the video punches that chick in the face, that's fucking corruption.
That is 100% corruption.
Somebody told me that's not a chick.
That's actually a very feminine man.
Either way, I say it's a chick.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I say it's a chick dude.
doug benson
Chick-like tendencies.
joe rogan
Yeah, a very chick-like dude.
And the guy punches him right in the face with a very sloppy overhand right, too.
It's a piss-poor technique.
I really was very upset with this technique.
doug benson
You should make a video of you and...
joe rogan
Or how to punch a protester correctly?
unidentified
No, no, I mean, just take that video and then do the play-by-play like you're doing it for a fight.
joe rogan
Who the fuck taught him how to throw that right hand?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
And for a 102-pound chick, she takes it well.
She took it well.
It was a weak-ass punch.
But, you know, it's the fact that he thought that he could do that.
I don't care what that person said to him, you know?
If someone is yelling at you and calling you names and becoming a problem, and you have to arrest them, then you fucking arrest them.
You don't have to punch people in the fucking head, you dick.
doug benson
What do you think about the preponderance of taser incidents and uses of tasers everywhere?
joe rogan
It's ridiculous.
Not just tasers.
How about the flash bombs they're throwing on people?
Did you see that shit?
That guy was a wounded vet.
The whole thing is disgusting.
It's really disgusting.
It's like these cops are, you know, they're forced every day to go out there and try to combat this ever-growing thing that shows no signs of weakening.
In fact, shows signs of gaining momentum and strength.
And that's why all these movements are being taken to try to squash it and try to suppress it because they go Well, we got to stop this now because right now it's 30,000 people.
What the fuck do we do when it's 300,000 people out there?
Guess what?
They're gonna come through those doors 300,000 people are gonna come through those doors and they're gonna start throwing people out windows, you know, and I don't think they will I I mean, it's not violent.
It hasn't been a violent movement so far, but that's what they would do if they had 300,000 people.
So if you think of, if you're like Mayor Bloomberg, or if you're one of these fucking guys that owns some giant hedge fund, and you've made billions of dollars just raping people your whole life, and then all of a sudden, you picture what you would do if you were all those people.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You would think, those people are going to get me.
They're going to come and get me.
doug benson
They're going to storm the gates.
joe rogan
Even if they stay non-violent, these people are never going to accept that.
Because they're always going to assume that human nature is always violent.
So they're going to push these people back before it ever gets to a point where they can't control it.
And that's why they're clearing these fucking tents out.
That's why they're trying to...
I guess they had an old library full of books there, too.
doug benson
Yeah, and they threw all the books away.
joe rogan
What the fuck, man?
You're throwing books away?
That should be against the law, okay?
Right there?
That should be a crime.
In this day and age of ultimate retardation that we find ourselves in, where people are so fucking dopey that you're throwing books away?
God damn, man.
You talk about someone who's not working for the greater good of the people.
A cop that's throwing books away?
doug benson
Yeah, and all in the name of, you know, the supposed name of public safety.
joe rogan
Oh, it's so gross.
Well, you know that Chase paid the cops $4.6 million, made a huge donation to the cops?
doug benson
Of course.
joe rogan
Isn't that ridiculous?
doug benson
Everything behind everything is money now.
The money that these people are going to try to defeat Obama, the money, the millions and millions that they're raising, that all it's going to is just trying to win an election?
It's such a messed up system.
People are starving.
Those millions of dollars could feed people, and instead they're just putting somebody else in charge who's not, you know, because Obama, as much as he seems to try, you know, there's...
joe rogan
He's ineffective.
unidentified
Yeah.
doug benson
Everything's going to be ineffective.
If he loses, if he wins...
I mean, if he wins, I think his next four years can be kind of interesting because he'll kind of have a nothing-to-fucking-lose kind of attitude.
joe rogan
Is that true, though, man?
doug benson
I hope so.
joe rogan
You know, I don't buy that anymore because I just haven't seen any evidence whatsoever that he has any power at all.
I don't necessarily believe it.
I think there's a whole group of people that have got him into position.
And once those people sit down with him, they explain to him what they would like to get done.
And that's what gets done.
And that's why Guantanamo Bay is still open.
doug benson
But stuff still slips through the cracks.
There's no money interest that wanted to get rid of Don't Ask, Don't Tell.
And he made that happen.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a bone that he threw people.
doug benson
Yeah, but as bones go, it's pretty good.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's good.
You know what that means?
That means that gay people are allowed to become hired killers too.
doug benson
Yay!
joe rogan
The fuck kind of advancement is that?
doug benson
Well, but they can, you know, gay people.
joe rogan
You know, it's not that I'm 100% not anti-soldier whatsoever.
I am for the soldiers.
What I'm not for is the people that tell the soldiers what to do.
Every fucking army needs soldiers.
Every nation needs an army.
Because guess what?
Human nature is what it is.
There's a lot of bad fucking people in the world.
What makes me sick is when bad people take good soldiers and make them do bad shit.
And they do that for their own good.
So it's not that I'm against soldiers.
I'm 100% for soldiers.
Those are people I understand.
What I'm not for is the people that put soldiers in situations where these soldiers think they're doing the right thing because they're following orders.
They think they're doing the right thing because they're going after guys who look like bad guys.
But the big question never gets answered.
What the fuck are you doing there in the first place?
You think you're doing the right thing?
What the fuck are you doing there in the first place?
Are you going to stop another 9-11?
doug benson
Those guys are dead.
They're all dead.
joe rogan
The guys who did it are dead.
This is how you stop it.
Don't let that happen again.
Get everybody over here.
Fucking put more soldiers in the streets.
doug benson
Just have everybody watching stuff more carefully.
joe rogan
Yeah, keep America safe.
doug benson
Make soldiers the TSA employees.
joe rogan
You can't deny the economic...
There's no reasons for going over there.
You can't deny it.
In the middle of this peak oil crisis, everybody's freaking out about what happens when we run out of oil.
Is it possible to run out of oil?
What happens if the prices skyrocket to the point where we get a massive recession?
And so that's the reason why we go over there.
We go over there to control the oil.
Do we go over there because there's not much left?
I mean, what's really going on?
Let me know.
brian redban
Do you think that all this is leading up to like the protest, you know, getting the troops back here, like all this is just going to lead to something like a new Hands Across America and a new We Are The World?
It already is.
I think it already is there.
doug benson
You're worried about having to go through Hands Across America?
joe rogan
The only thing I'm worried about is the We Are The World parodies that stand-up comics will close their acts with.
That's what I'm worried about.
doug benson
Kevin Meaney.
joe rogan
Another Kevin Meaney.
brian redban
I can't even...
doug benson
I remember Hands Across America, but I don't remember if I did it or not.
joe rogan
I don't think it worked, right?
brian redban
It didn't work.
It was fake, and they just edited things together.
It was like, wow, look how far it goes.
joe rogan
Do you know how many colds were transferred from person to person that way?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
doug benson
I don't know if I stood somewhere and held hands with two people on the street somewhere or not.
brian redban
I think I think my uncle told me it with him.
doug benson
You think I'd remember that if I didn't?
joe rogan
Well, that's what we're talking about.
Every seven years, you get some shitty files that you have to sort.
doug benson
That's been a while since that happened.
brian redban
I think my uncle told me it was Hands Across America, but we were in the shower.
doug benson
It shouldn't have caused you that much inconvenience, Brian, as an individual.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's not that big a deal, Brian.
doug benson
I think this is a little bigger than Hands Across America.
brian redban
The worst is the making of...
doug benson
That's weird that you're in fear of another We Are The World song.
joe rogan
That's so not what's going on here.
What's going on here is some overthrow the government type shit.
That's what's going on here.
What's going on here is people saying, hey, this system right now doesn't fucking work at all.
This is the only time in our life that I've ever seen this.
Never seen anything remotely close to it.
doug benson
No, every president in my lifetime has raised taxes at a point where taxes need to be raised.
joe rogan
It's never been this crazy.
There's never been this much discontent.
There's never been giant protests all over the world.
They have occupied Toronto.
Guess what?
Toronto's doing great.
They're doing awesome.
They have a good economy.
They don't have nearly the problems with unemployment that we have.
They're fucking doing pretty good up there.
A lot better than we're doing, man.
But people are still like, fuck it, it's not good enough.
doug benson
Was the 55,000 people at Rogers Center, was that the most people at one UFC event ever?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
That was epic.
doug benson
Yeah, and those tickets aren't cheap.
joe rogan
Though the record is actually being held by, I think in Japan, they've had 90,000 people.
doug benson
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
I think that's the biggest they've ever had.
doug benson
You weren't there, though?
joe rogan
At least East 80. No, it wasn't the UFC. It was Pride.
Pride events.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure during the peak of mixed martial arts, they had something like 80,000 plus people, which is really insane when you think about it.
Because when we did the UFC, it was 55, but then they released an additional 5,000 seats and they sold them too.
So it turned out to be 60,000.
It's just they had to figure out how many seats they could have and bring in all the equipment because it was...
A completely different show.
It was really stressful for everyone doing it because they had these giant fucking TVs everywhere, so everything is being shown on these 80-foot fucking TVs.
I mean, it's a huge place, man.
And people were watching it from the hotel.
That's really wild.
The back of the Rogers Center has a fucking hotel with windows wide open, and people had rooms where they could look out their window and watch the fight.
doug benson
That's awesome.
joe rogan
Fucking awesome.
doug benson
I didn't even see that.
joe rogan
Dude, it's the shit.
That place is huge.
They play baseball in there, man.
I mean, wrap your head around that.
doug benson
Yeah, well, is that the only place where they gave us...
They gave us these things that we put in our ears to listen to you call the matches.
joe rogan
You can get those anywhere.
doug benson
Everywhere has them.
That's just the only place anybody's ever walked up to me and said, here, do you want this?
They were just giving them out to people for some reason in Toronto.
And so I listened the whole time.
joe rogan
I think you should get it with your ticket.
You're paying a fuckload for your ticket anyway.
They just hand them bitches out when they get in the door.
That would be a nice thing.
doug benson
Yeah.
joe rogan
But it's only $10, and you could reuse it at every UFC event.
unidentified
Yeah.
doug benson
Yeah, I don't know what ended up happening with the one that I had, because, you know, I smoke a lot of pot.
joe rogan
You do smoke a lot of pot, don't you?
doug benson
Especially in Toronto.
joe rogan
I smoked it.
Toronto's awesome.
Did you ever do that pot club where you do stand-up?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
doug benson
You told me about it, and then I did it this next time I was there.
joe rogan
We shouldn't say the name, because I don't know how easy it is to get in trouble for that, but...
doug benson
I don't think it's that easy there.
joe rogan
I don't know, but they're awesome.
doug benson
I think it's pretty fucking chill there.
joe rogan
I'm pretty sure they have a vote really soon on decriminalization.
I think there's something going on.
I don't know the exact specifics of the situation with their law, but it was deemed that the way the law was written, the cannabis laws, were unconstitutional.
And they only had a certain amount of time to fight that.
And they're in the midst of it right now.
I'm pretty sure it's going to be decided sometime before the end of the year, before the end of December, I believe.
doug benson
That's cool.
joe rogan
Yeah, really interesting.
But their attitude towards it was amazing up there, as is in BC. They just fucking, you know...
BC has medical now, too.
If you have a California license, you can go to BC. It's good?
Yeah, they accept it.
doug benson
I was just there for a night, and I had a blast.
I love going to Canada.
joe rogan
It's the greatest city in the country.
doug benson
Canada?
joe rogan
Canada is the greatest city in our country.
No.
The greatest city in Canada is, you know what, there's no bad one.
It's a toss-up between Vancouver, like the most fun I've ever had, between Vancouver, Toronto, and Montreal.
Those are the three big cities that I performed at.
I would say it's a fucking toss-up.
The only thing in Montreal, there's a certain amount of people that don't necessarily speak English that well.
doug benson
Yeah, it's a little more French.
joe rogan
Most people are bilingual, but there's a certain percentage, the girls it is.
doug benson
But also, yeah, that could affect the reaction a little bit.
joe rogan
A little bit.
doug benson
A little bit.
Because it's the language difference.
joe rogan
You get that a little bit.
But, damn, those girls are hot.
And they talk with a French accent.
brian redban
But they have horrible brawls, though.
joe rogan
Even if they're being mean to you.
What?
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
They have horrible bras?
brian redban
Bras.
I've been with two of those French-Canadian girls, and they both had really creepy bras.
joe rogan
I think that says more about girls who want to fuck you.
unidentified
I love that.
doug benson
I love that your sampling of two girls is a...
unidentified
That's his gallopold.
doug benson
Make a statement like that.
joe rogan
That's his gallopold.
doug benson
Oh, the two I was with had terrible bras and...
brian redban
You never know.
Do countries have things like bras are more important style-wise, like old woman underwear?
Did you see any Victoria's Secret when you were there?
joe rogan
When chicks want to stay warm, they throw less emphasis on sexy underwear.
In Montreal, in the winter, man, ooh!
Little sun, it get cold.
I used to do the old, I used to do Jimbo's Comedy Works in Montreal.
I still do that.
I did it last time I was there.
It was a great little small club.
It only seats like 100 people.
I used to do it like way, way back in the day when I'd do the Montreal Comedy Festival.
But I walked from my hotel to the club because it was only a few blocks.
That's how I got there every day.
It was a long time ago.
And it was minus 15, minus 16, I think it was.
Something like that.
unidentified
Jesus.
joe rogan
And I walked to the club and it was ruthlessly painful, dude.
It was ruthlessly painful.
Like, my ears felt like they were going to fall off my head.
You had to have a wool hat.
Like, you had to have ear covers.
It's not like a looks thing.
Like, you have to have it.
And you should wear a ski mask.
If you can get a ski mask, you should wear a ski mask.
Because your face gets ripped apart by the cold air.
Fuck that noise.
doug benson
Yeah, I'm not a fan of that, so I guess we just officially decided Vancouver's the best.
brian redban
Vancouver's my favorite.
doug benson
Because in the wintertime, it's just got Portland weather or Seattle.
joe rogan
Vancouver's pretty fucking badass.
And the people are as cool as fuck.
That is one of the most marijuana-influenced cities in the world.
doug benson
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
One of the most.
The movie that I was in, The Union, The Business of Getting High, have you ever watched that?
My friend Adam Scorgy did it, and it's all about the economy in Vancouver and how much of it is based around marijuana and how insane it is and the American laws and all the horseshit that goes on with legalization.
But it's a great documentary on how ridiculous the whole scenario is, the fact that it's illegal in the first place.
doug benson
We should vaporize while we talk about this.
joe rogan
You think that thing's ready to roll?
doug benson
How long could it possibly take?
joe rogan
But it's flashing red light.
doug benson
Oh, has it been flashing the whole time?
Is it supposed to be solid when it's ready?
joe rogan
I don't want to say the name of this product because I don't want to give this guy a bad review because he seems like a real nice guy.
brian redban
Isn't the red light...
joe rogan
You talk.
I'm going to try it.
Hold on.
doug benson
Let's try it and see if it works.
joe rogan
I'm going to try it real quick.
doug benson
Give it a shot.
brian redban
So tomorrow we have a Def Squad comedy show at the Pasadena Ice House.
doug benson
I'll be there.
brian redban
Doug will be there.
We'll be doing a podcast beforehand, so the podcast starts 8 p.m.
Pacific.
doug benson
So it's going to be the same deal where people can watch it live?
brian redban
Yeah, they can watch it live, and we're going to have John Reap, Little Esther, Yoshi.
doug benson
Wait, is this a comedy show or a video game?
brian redban
It's a comedy show.
doug benson
I like that video game where Little Esther and Yoshi try to get into that castle.
Or that asshole.
brian redban
Joe is trying to...
unidentified
Allegedly.
doug benson
Do you think it works?
joe rogan
Yeah, it works.
brian redban
I'm just...
doug benson
I'd like to try it.
It looks kind of like sucking a cock, though, and you know I'm against that.
joe rogan
Well, sort of you are.
brian redban
Do you usually use vaporizers?
doug benson
Huh?
I don't have any usual.
I have a myriad of ways to get THC into my system.
I had a lollipop in the car on the way over here.
joe rogan
Oh, you animal.
You fucking savage!
doug benson
Those are good.
And then, you know, people always have joints around that you smoke.
I'm not a joint roller myself.
I don't have those skills.
So easy, though, man.
I make apples into pipes whenever I'm in hotels because they always have them in the lobby.
joe rogan
But don't you feel like you're getting a lot of the butane from the lighter in your mouth?
Don't you taste that shit when you inhale it?
doug benson
Through an apple?
joe rogan
Anytime you use anything, we have to light the weed.
We light the weed over and over again.
The thing about joints is you light it once, and you can light it with a match.
doug benson
Yeah, that's a good point.
With joints, it's almost become more like a social thing for me.
I never just sit and smoke a joint by myself.
You don't get big hits off of it.
That's why I like...
joe rogan
You don't get big hits.
unidentified
You're such a fucking stoner.
doug benson
People give you a little pin or joint or something.
I'm like, oh, that's fun to pretend we're smoking pot.
joe rogan
Oh, a little tiny joint.
doug benson
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
brian redban
I hate that.
doug benson
But, you know, I'd rather have a blunt than a joint and a pipe over, you know, and then bongs.
You know, bongs, really, like, I hit them so rarely now that they really knock me on my ass, you know?
And, like, especially, like, somebody puts some, like, fucking hash oil in there or something.
Because I'm really getting used to just smoking vaporizer in my apartment and, you know, and doing a lot of edibles, so my smoking game is coming down, you know?
joe rogan
My smoking game.
Yeah, bongs will show you glitches in the Matrix.
If you have bongs, you'll have moments where the same exact thing is repeated a second later.
unidentified
What?
What?
brian redban
There was this house that I lived in where, in college, I lived with seven girls.
And it was a two-story house.
It was just like the real world.
And we made a bong out of PCP that went from the first story...
PVC. Yeah, whatever.
unidentified
PCP is angel dust.
brian redban
It was made out of PCP, bro.
joe rogan
Bro, we're fucking crazy, man.
We made fucking pipes out of Angel Doss.
brian redban
And it went to the second floor.
It was like so huge.
And there was one guy that could clear the whole thing.
joe rogan
You don't have to press anything.
Just hit it.
Just hit it.
Just hit it like it's a...
unidentified
Like it's a bongo, son.
joe rogan
Doesn't feel like it's doing anything?
Is it clouding up?
Damn, he sounds like a teapot.
unidentified
I'm a little teapot, short and stout.
brian redban
Here's another one.
joe rogan
It worked?
doug benson
That was real good.
joe rogan
Powerful professional stoner.
Professional stoner.
Doug Benson approves of this device.
unidentified
Yeah, that seemed like a pretty good hit.
joe rogan
What do you know about this nonsense that the ATF is going to stop people from getting new firearms if you were a medical marijuana patient now?
Have you heard this?
doug benson
I've heard stuff to that effect, and that sounds pretty nutty.
unidentified
Ridiculous.
doug benson
It sounds nutty, but it also doesn't hit me at home because I'm not a firearms guy.
joe rogan
Well, I understand that.
For me, I have guns.
doug benson
I wish everybody that had guns was high.
Yeah, exactly.
You'd think more about your fellow man before you pull the trigger.
joe rogan
It's disgusting.
It's disgusting.
doug benson
I hate that when people kind of paint this idea that Pac can somehow...
I mean, I guess there's some people that it can make kind of crazy, but for the most part, it doesn't...
It doesn't make you have visions or do things like with alcohol where you do things that you wouldn't do if you weren't drunk.
joe rogan
Right.
doug benson
We doesn't really have that.
joe rogan
Not to me at least.
doug benson
Being forgetful or something.
You know what I mean?
Like behind the wheel of a car, how many people do you know are like when they're high and driving, they're maniacs and dangerous and more of a threat than maybe if they weren't high.
No, that's the old joke.
joe rogan
The cop pulls you over.
Do you know why I pulled you over?
You're going three miles an hour.
doug benson
Yeah, you're parked.
But even then, every once in a while, I've been trying to write down lately every time I do something stupid when I'm not high.
I'm not high maybe an hour out of every day, so it's a small window.
joe rogan
Is that the way that you do your taxes?
doug benson
Yeah.
I could do my taxes high, too.
I mean, I used to.
Now I have an accountant.
joe rogan
Doesn't it freak you out, though?
doug benson
It does, but you double-check it.
This is your tax to the Overlord.
It's like when you're high and you're leaving a hotel room.
You pace around the room three or four times to make sure you've got all of your items, and then one time out of five, you left something behind and you're just going to have to buy it.
brian redban
Check your pocket for $20 to buy a new iPhone adapter at the airport.
Power adapter.
I lose it every time I leave the house.
doug benson
But it's more than $20, those things.
brian redban
Yeah.
doug benson
They're pricey.
They're like $100.
joe rogan
Are they really?
doug benson
Yeah.
But what I did was...
joe rogan
An iPhone power adapter's $100?
doug benson
Or no, you know, for the laptop.
brian redban
Laptop adapters.
doug benson
Laptop ones are like, you know, those ones with the big white square.
joe rogan
Okay.
doug benson
But those things, I, you know, lost a couple over the years.
And then I just finally got wise and bought two.
And I travel with one and have one at home.
joe rogan
Yeah, I do the same thing.
I have a laptop power adapter.
doug benson
At least when I get back home, it's there and I'm ready to go.
joe rogan
I was so confused.
I thought you guys were talking about iPhone adapters.
I'm like, how the fuck do they charge $100 for that little thing?
doug benson
Those are probably like $30, though.
unidentified
Probably.
doug benson
Or $20.
brian redban
Apple just released a recall on power adapters, and it's funny.
It's about time they did something about this, because I've seen this on both my power adapters for laptops and iPhones, where the cord kind of comes out of the plug.
Have you seen that?
unidentified
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
brian redban
Yeah, yeah.
And so finally, they're recalling it right now.
joe rogan
Well, the new ones are much more sturdy.
We've seen the new ones.
They're like way sturdy.
Yeah, technology, man, it's adapting.
That seems to be the fucking bottleneck, though, is battery life.
The real battery life, you know, you have to be connected to power.
You know, real battery life is just not substantial enough.
doug benson
They're giving us more power everywhere now.
joe rogan
Yeah, but the real question is, will there ever be some sort of an infinite battery source or some sort of an amazing battery source where shit lasts forever?
brian redban
We'll be able to print power.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I mean, how can you do that, though?
How is something storing power, you know?
It would have to be like a nuclear laptop.
doug benson
It would have to be solar or something.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Something like that.
doug benson
But I'm pretty cool with how it is.
I don't get caught off guard by my computer running out of...
joe rogan
Look, I'm amazed that it works at all.
The whole device is incredible.
Especially, I know a lot of people...
I had a conversation with this very intelligent lady, but she was talking to me about Windows.
And she only uses Windows.
And the reason why she only uses Windows is because she doesn't like being told what form she buys her computers in.
She wants to be able to pick her own parts and different things.
And I understand that.
But the rational part of me goes, yeah, but Macs don't have viruses, and they work better.
Done.
That conversation's over.
Like, yeah, I would rather, you know, anybody, but the reason why they work so good is because there's not a billion different douchebags making these computers with all these different parts, and, you know, then the operating system has to figure out How the drivers to each individual device work and how they work together.
brian redban
I just think Windows is a shitty operating system.
It used to be good and then they went to...
XP was good.
joe rogan
What is it at now?
Windows 8?
Is it 7 or 8?
brian redban
7. I just think it's shitty.
I don't like it.
I like...
OS X. And then when it comes to most things you buy for your computer nowadays, everything's USB, Firewire.
You don't have to have...
What are you really doing?
joe rogan
Look, if you didn't have a computer, Windows would be awesome.
If somebody gave you a Windows 7 computer in 1995, you would shoot a load all over your keyboard.
You would be so excited.
But things have changed drastically.
doug benson
I felt that way about Kong at one point.
joe rogan
Totally.
I remember.
Remember?
You couldn't believe you were actually controlling that white line.
You were controlling movement on a screen.
doug benson
And it's fun to get good at it.
That was another one I was good at.
joe rogan
Pong?
doug benson
Yeah, real good at it.
The one where you play against the machine or whatever?
I was great at that.
joe rogan
Really?
doug benson
Yeah.
What a waste of time.
joe rogan
This is pre-stoner days too, right?
doug benson
That was the one I was really good at.
My parents used to go to a...
Yeah, way pre-stoner days.
My parents used to go to a bar at a golf course.
There was also a restaurant.
So they'd hang out there and they'd just bring me along or whatever.
It was almost like my babysitter was playing with the fucking Pong machine while my parents had some cocktails.
And I got so good at that.
And also you used to be able to get free games on pong by the metal thing in the front that you that you put the quarters into the slot if you rubbed your feet on the ground on carpeting and built up static electricity and then had like a piece of metal in your hand like a quarter you could tap it just right and it would throw credits on the on of the machine.
unidentified
What?
doug benson
Yeah, yeah, I did it all the time.
brian redban
I remember that.
joe rogan
That is crazy!
doug benson
Through my life, I've always found all these weird scams that eventually, like, not only do they not save you a whole lot in the first place, just 25 cents, but they also, over time, become worthless.
But it's weird, the little skills you pick up just to cheat the...
brian redban
Like the skee-ball scam, where you just bend over and put it in the 50. And you just keep on getting those tickets and...
joe rogan
You put it in the 50?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, you bend over instead of throwing it?
brian redban
Yeah, you just put it in there.
joe rogan
That's weird.
Why would you want those tickets?
You really want a stuffed animal that bad?
doug benson
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, God, it takes so many tickets to win anything of value.
There was always like one, like a beatbox, like a, you know...
joe rogan
Yeah, you can't help but feel like you got fucked.
doug benson
...that we'd call the day, and yeah, you can't save up to get that many tickets.
A million tickets for this one.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're thinking about how much money you spent, how much time of your life has gone rolling a stupid ball.
doug benson
All the things I've done that take time, like the amount of time I've spent playing poker, the amount of time I've spent watching dumb movies.
joe rogan
Are you a road poker player?
Do you go to casinos when you do the road?
doug benson
Just when I'm in a gambling town.
joe rogan
Yeah, like where?
doug benson
I don't seek out casinos everywhere I go, because a lot of places have them now because of Indian grounds or because they're on a boat on the river.
But I only go if I'm playing the casino or...
Or live across the street from it.
That's part of what I love about going to see UFC in Vegas is it gets me away from the tables for like five hours.
joe rogan
Really?
doug benson
Yeah, because I'll just sit and play and play and play.
I love it, but it's such a waste of time.
At this point in my life, the thrill of winning a hand isn't really the same because I don't need the money as bad.
joe rogan
Right.
doug benson
You know, back when I was playing, when I was like, you know, I could pay for, you know, rent next month if I win this hand.
It was a lot more exciting.
joe rogan
Well, Ari Shafir, at one point in time, was winning more money playing poker than he was making and doing comedy.
unidentified
He was doing well.
doug benson
He's a good player.
I only played, like, we were in the same table in one tournament once, I think, but I... I got a vibe off of him like he really knows what he's doing.
There's still things that professional poker players could teach me that I could stand to learn, but I'm just too lazy to learn all the kind of calculations you should be making during each hand, like exactly how much to bet and all that stuff.
I'm just goofing around.
joe rogan
You're just having fun.
You're not trying to be the best poker player in the world.
doug benson
No, but I'm also trying to win through just playing like an asshole.
joe rogan
Do you ever play chess?
doug benson
I did, you know, when I was younger.
I haven't in a long time.
joe rogan
That's a great obsession game.
That game can drive people deep into the hole.
doug benson
Yeah, you could spend a lot of time on that.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can go crazy.
You can really go mad playing chess.
Because for certain people, it absorbs their everyday, like they'll be walking down the street and they'll be thinking about moves.
Like it starts getting to a point where, you know, you see a direct result between the more concentrated you are, the more you concentrate on it, the more you focus on it, the more you start winning and the better you get at playing chess and then you just go, you get lost, then you're crazy.
doug benson
Yeah, see that's what I don't do in poker is I don't sit there and evaluate how everyone else is playing and what their personalities are and what he did on that hand and then what he did on the next hand.
I'm just playing in the moment and I know good cards when I see them or when I have a good chance of drawing a winning hand and I just sort of...
joe rogan
I did a movie once, and the guy who was renting out the house, they rent out, you know, you want to shoot a movie in a house, you can rent someone's house, like people offer him for rent.
And this guy was a professional chess player.
And so, you know, a lot of downtime starting a movie.
So I'd go hang out with this guy and talk to him, try to figure out what he was doing.
And he was playing chess online, you know, with all these different people.
And he was like some super fucking master chess player.
So it was fascinating that he's got this giant community of, apparently, you could just get chess games.
Like any time of the day, any time of the night online, whatever level you're at.
You know, and there's people from all over the world that will play chess with you.
doug benson
The same thing with Scrabble.
joe rogan
Really?
doug benson
People are fucking nuts with the Scrabble.
joe rogan
Oh, they play a Scrabble computer game?
brian redban
Yeah, Words with Friends.
doug benson
Like where they're playing against people all over the place, so you can do it any time you want.
That's part of what I love about Twitter, is if I am up in the middle of the night and not asleep for some reason because I've got to go to the airport or whatever, can't sleep, It's so great that, like, the fact that it's international, once you get a certain number of followers, you can, like, you know, I'm sure some people go on Twitter and they're pissed because, you know, nobody that they follow is saying anything or writing back to them, but it's just so, it's such a 24-hour show.
brian redban
Yeah, it's like a chat room.
doug benson
Yeah, where you don't have to chat with people.
You can just read what people are saying and pick and choose what you want to respond to.
joe rogan
The 24-hour aspect is really interesting when you're flying, when you're in England or Europe or something like that.
The times are all screwed up and weird.
But you can constantly be tweeting.
doug benson
Yeah, and it kind of replaces texting all your friends about what you're doing.
You just send a tweet.
That's not going to wake somebody up.
You don't want to text, oh, I'm at Buckingham Palace.
They're trying to sleep and the phone's going off.
It's a good way to...
I use it as a texting device.
When I think somebody might not be awake, I just write to them a direct message on Twitter instead of texting them.
joe rogan
Oh, do you really?
I don't check those enough.
doug benson
Yeah, I know.
You're really slow to get back on those.
joe rogan
Yeah, sometimes I don't check them for weeks.
doug benson
It's funny when you write direct messages to people.
Sometimes they just don't even know that that's a thing that can happen.
brian redban
I do that with a voicemail now.
I don't ever listen to my voicemails.
And it's probably the dumbest thing ever.
But that, to me, is just annoying now.
joe rogan
I went to one guy.
One guy tweeted me.
One guy tweeted me.
It was like, it's a shame.
Whose fucking phone is on?
doug benson
That was me.
That would wake a person up.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's brutal.
Why don't you have that bitch on vibrate?
brian redban
He's not used to doing podcasts.
joe rogan
One guy tweeted me.
One guy tweeted me something.
doug benson
It was on vibrate.
It wasn't me.
joe rogan
It was?
doug benson
Yeah, see that's vibrate.
joe rogan
Shit's broken, son.
doug benson
Yeah, it's got a weird quirk to it.
joe rogan
It's because you don't have a case on it.
You dropped that bitch.
Tell the truth.
No?
doug benson
I've done pretty good at not dropping it.
It's my baby, you know.
I don't drop it.
joe rogan
This guy tweeted me, you know, it's a shame that you can't reply and say something for help the troops.
It was like really weird, like phonetically all fucked up.
And it was all caps to support the troops.
Exclamation point, exclamation point, one, one, one.
And then I go, wow, what the fuck?
This guy expects me to reply.
I have a half a million Twitter followers, dude.
Sometimes I don't look at it all day.
There's no way I can respond to everybody.
It's impossible.
doug benson
I do.
joe rogan
So then I thought, you're awesome.
brian redban
Every single person.
joe rogan
You're absolutely awesome.
brian redban
You write the letter.
joe rogan
So then I go to...
doug benson
Not every single person, but quite a few.
joe rogan
I go to his Twitter page, and that's the same message he sent to literally a thousand people.
He just like...
doug benson
Oh yeah, you go look at any time somebody writes something to you that you're wondering about their personality or whatever, you can go and see everything else they've written.
joe rogan
I love doing that.
doug benson
I hate it when it's like, if it says at Doug Benson, at Joe Rogan, at Red Band, some shit, and it's like, well, no, that's what happens.
That's what happens.
It's fine when it's my actual friends are thrown in there like we all have common interests.
But when somebody just throws in random princess so-and-so...
Well, that's just a made-up thing.
Or like people write Snoop Dogg and Doug Benson, you know, something about pot that they think we both need to know.
But when they just throw in, like, when it's just to me and Kim Kardashian and, you know, Brian Williams from NBC News or whatever, like some weird combination of, you know...
On the fringe celebrity.
It's such a turn-off.
It makes you want to just not respond to them.
And then you go look at their page and they're just randomly picking names.
And that's how they do a lot of spam now on Twitter.
As soon as you get a message that seems like an ad, then you check their page, and it's just sending that same thing.
joe rogan
I've talked about this already on the podcast, so in the interest of brevity.
I got hacked.
I must have clicked on some link to get some Twitter picture or something like that.
And somehow or another, they tweeted from my account about some contest for an iPad 2.
And I was following them all of a sudden.
I was like, wow, this is amazing.
They hacked into my Twitter account.
Apparently, it was probably some red tape or some fine print, rather, when you agree to accept some Twitter application.
doug benson
It happens every day.
Not every day, but pretty frequently, I'll see one of my more famous friends or people I follow just because I'm curious about them that...
Tweeting something.
They'll tweet something odd or something that seems like an ad, and then the next tweet is like, oh shit, I got hacked.
joe rogan
Did you see when Ashton Kutcher was tweeting that he was upset about Paterno being fired?
doug benson
Yeah, because all he reacted to, and I'm sure that's what a lot of people reacted to, was just hearing that this amazing coach got fired just very suddenly.
And he didn't stop to think, wow, that big of a move?
Like, why would Penn State fire a guy so suddenly if something really terrible didn't happen?
But he still went on and tweeted...
Oh, man, that's a bummer, or something like that.
joe rogan
Yeah, he was pissed off.
doug benson
Oh, we love you, Joe Pa.
unidentified
I would take a shower with him.
doug benson
Yeah, yeah, and then...
joe rogan
That's the other guy.
doug benson
But then he did, I guess, kind of a good thing to spin it.
He retweeted every person that wrote to him, you're an asshole, you're an idiot, and he'd just write in each one something like, yeah, I'm sorry, I just didn't know all the facts.
He sort of responded to a lot of people and showed a lot of the vitriol that was happening.
brian redban
You mean a staff at Foxconn responded?
unidentified
Yeah.
doug benson
It seemed like something he really did.
brian redban
There's a whole factory of people responding to Ashton Kutcher on Twitter.
joe rogan
Can you imagine?
He has all these Chinese workers.
The ones they use in World of Warcraft to build up your energy.
They send your account overseas and some Chinese guy plays with it until he fucking starves to death.
Push his body aside and throw some new student onto the block.
doug benson
I'm not cynical enough to think that Ashton didn't do it himself.
Because it Because it all happened in such real time.
joe rogan
Right.
brian redban
He just has so many people that I can't believe.
joe rogan
It seems like to me that when you're a celebrity that's involved in a public scandal like he has, you know, like his most latest one, it seems interesting that he's tweeting people at all, you know?
It's like you would think if you're going to...
You're going to read any of the replies.
You're going to get a lot of people that are going to ask you a bunch of questions that you don't want to answer.
Do you really want to just go out there and interconnect with people?
But I guess he does.
doug benson
Well, that's the amazing thing.
How important is it to try to feel like you're getting your side of it out when you think you're misunderstood?
joe rogan
You know, and at a certain point in time, a lot of people's Twitters become very impersonal.
You know, when the numbers get too big, it seems like people take less chances.
They say less things that are controversial.
doug benson
A million people writing back to you that you shouldn't have used a certain slur or something when you were trying to, the joke was how inappropriate what you're writing is.
Like I'll sometimes, if I think of something really dark, I'll just, I'll just, you know, drop it in the middle of the night because a lot of stuff just gets sort of lost in the Twitterverse, you know, like nobody's sitting, most people don't sit and read every single thing written by every single person they follow that because a lot of people follow a thousand most people don't sit and read every single thing written by It's impossible.
So you're just in this kind of rushing stream of comments, and sometimes they'll land on you because they like you more than other people they follow or whatever.
But sometimes they'll also, like anything that looks like you're just promoting a gig, they might just breeze past it.
Every time I play a town, like the day after on Twitter, someone will write to me, when are you coming to?
And it's that town I was just in and had just been tweeting about.
But it's just you can't expect everybody to...
To see everything.
joe rogan
It's hard to, I mean, think that you're going to communicate.
I mean, you've got to hope that your Twitter is interesting enough that people are going to lock onto it, you know, and you're going to hope that you build some sort of a community there, and then they're going to be able to follow you on your website, or follow you at your shows, or look through your tweets to find out where you're at, or, you know, do you have a little schedule on your Twitter page?
So if you go to your Twitter page, you can see what the upcoming dates are.
doug benson
I have a, you know, a link to a site where I've got all my dates, but What do you guys think about this new business they have on there with all the activity following?
joe rogan
Activity following?
brian redban
I like it.
doug benson
You haven't even clicked on that yet?
There's a word activity now on the top of your page.
And if you click on it, you see just a list of everybody you follow, what they're up to.
That's ridiculous.
Who they've retweeted, who they're following.
joe rogan
It's ridiculous.
Too much information.
doug benson
And it tells you you get to find out now as soon as somebody follows you.
Do you do that?
joe rogan
Yeah, I saw that, yeah.
unidentified
That's cool.
doug benson
Because that's kind of interesting.
That's by default, I believe.
Because then you can, if you're just sitting there looking at it and it comes up that somebody just started following you, it's kind of cool to just immediately send them some sort of, hey, welcome, hope you like it kind of message.
joe rogan
Especially if she's got big tits.
doug benson
Well, dude, yeah.
joe rogan
Tell me what you do.
How do you work at Doug Benson?
It's 2 o'clock in the morning.
It's 2 o'clock in the morning.
Okay, here's the scenario.
You're alone.
Stone to the gills.
doug benson
Right.
joe rogan
Okay, and you're just like checking out Twitter and some really ridiculously hot suicide girl.
doug benson
Starts following me.
joe rogan
Weird tattoos just starts following you.
doug benson
You know, I might write back and say, you know, hey, what's up?
Or...
joe rogan
Hey, what's up?
doug benson
Hello?
Or whatever.
joe rogan
So what'd you do?
doug benson
Just reach out.
Just reach out to somebody and see what happens.
joe rogan
Just a little hi.
Just a little, hey, what's up?
Nothing incriminating.
Nothing creepy.
doug benson
Yeah, and then often what'll come back is, I can't direct message you because you don't follow me.
And then my next direct message says, the system works!
And then you see how different people handle it different ways.
Some people get pissed off right away and don't want to deal with somebody where their half of the conversation is public, but your half is private.
Uh-huh.
What else am I going to do?
I'm not on Twitter to have conversations with other people in front of all of my followers.
Unless you're fucking with them, it's not interesting to read.
joe rogan
Why don't you just follow them for a little while and then unfollow them?
It's your precious 420 number that you're trying to protect.
doug benson
But no, then I really will play a game where if there's somebody that I want to follow, I will add them and then go through the list and see who's going to go.
It's usually somebody that I follow that just ultimately their tweets haven't been that interesting because they're like, you know, I follow crazy super famous people just because I think it could be interesting.
And some I cling to.
Like, I love following Alec Baldwin.
I think he's really entertaining.
Yeah?
Yeah, and...
joe rogan
I don't follow him, I don't think.
doug benson
But I gave up on Kutcher.
I followed Kutcher for a while and then stopped.
joe rogan
Blasphemy.
brian redban
Me too.
doug benson
I stopped a long time ago.
brian redban
Me too.
joe rogan
Why?
doug benson
Because he just tweets a lot, and for a while there was just a lot of back and forth with Demi Moore that was just kind of like, they were being way too cute.
Like the whole time you're like, this relationship's not going to last.
They're putting way too much effort into pretending, or not pretending, maybe actually being in love with each other, but they just won't shut up about it.
How can you maintain that as a couple?
brian redban
PDA on Twitter is gross.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
What if she's a lesbian and he's like her beard?
brian redban
No, I think they probably fucked.
I think they had creepy, weird sex where Bruce came in and licked Ashton's asshole and stuff like that.
joe rogan
Brian, you just ruined everything.
You just ruined everything with your nonsense.
doug benson
They're all buddy-buddy.
No, he's mad at Ashton now.
joe rogan
Oh, now.
doug benson
Because Ashton's supposedly having affairs.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Oh, so now they don't talk?
Uncle Bruce is going to kick him out?
doug benson
But that's the funny thing.
TV viewers instantly forgive the whole thing about him having affairs, but...
That show, the ratings might have come down a little bit from jumping out in favor of Joe Pa at the wrong moment.
That's what's amazing to me about the whole Penn State story.
That is only one notch above the worst thing a person could do, probably.
joe rogan
It's right there.
doug benson
I don't even want to think about what's below it.
Everyone's disgusted by it, but there still managed to be some people that That are just, you know, defending in some weird way, you know, the people that were involved in the story.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can't.
You know, I was saying how weird it is that the guy's name was Officer, or it was McQueary, the guy who found him in the hotel room together.
doug benson
Which, that whole thing now is falling apart.
His story is not matching what supposedly happened at the time, and Which guy, McQuarrie?
Yeah, he's saying now that he did go to police officers and that they proceeded to not follow through.
unidentified
Uh-oh.
doug benson
Because initially, he's just sick of getting all this shit about people saying that he just went to Joe Pa and he didn't go to the cops.
So he did go to the cops.
unidentified
But now he's saying he did.
joe rogan
Oh my God.
doug benson
But he testified, you know, because this guy's gone through, you know, people had to testify for and against Sandusky before on earlier charges.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Yeah, this is crazy.
doug benson
And so at that time, supposedly the report was that he didn't speak to any cops, and now he's saying he did.
So it's one of those complicated, horrifying stories that it may never end in our lifetimes.
It may just go on and on and on, just because getting to the bottom of everything that happened I heard someone tell someone else a theory that I heard that is just absolutely mortifying.
You know this guy Sandusky worked with a children's charity and those were the kids he was bringing to the games and they show pictures of him leaning on these kids and they've got little football helmets on.
It's crazy that he was showering with them at all.
The kids and him, neither one of them are playing in a game.
So why do they even need...
What's the pretense for being in the showers?
Yeah.
Like right there.
The guy's...
How guilty could he be?
You know, like I don't care if he actually had sex with him.
He's just setting up that scenario makes him a creep that shouldn't be allowed to do that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
doug benson
And with kids, with these kids that are poor and, you know, and from foster homes or whatever, you know, this charity...
What the fuck's going on?
things to and it's probably being taken to a football game is the most amazing thing that's ever happened to them and they also don't necessarily understand the implications of what he's doing to them when he physically attacks them.
brian redban
Are those photos real of his house like being in the same like the backyard of an elementary school?
Have you seen that?
doug benson
I'm not surprised.
I mean, I know they're...
brian redban
It shows, like, an elementary school and a little bit of woods and then a house and then supposedly, I don't know if it was just a joke, but supposedly that's his house, like, on the other side of this little woods.
And I'm thinking, like, that woods is probably, like, that scene in, like, Human Centipede where, like, they go and they find this house in the middle of the other side of the woods and there's, like, a creepy guy that lives in there and molests kids.
Like, come to...
You know, he probably like sneaks through the forest and spies on kids at the elementary school and it's just like this creepy rape force.
doug benson
We all just start talking and just go.
It's hilarious.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's ridiculous.
doug benson
When you're fucking high, you just start talking about something.
Because I never even got to my point, which was that there's a lot of rich people that also pump money into this charity because this guy told them to.
And so this one law enforcement officer, who I think probably has a good idea about these things, suggested the notion that this guy was grooming kids for boosters to fool around with.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
Like there was a whole ring of headphones.
doug benson
Yeah, like he had a whole system.
That's a possibility.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
doug benson
Like this thing is going to get so twisted and deep.
Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
It's amazing that he got away with it as long as he did.
And the only way he got away with it for 19 years, 20 years, whatever the fuck it was, is if people knew and didn't say anything.
Period.
doug benson
It was the institution.
It was everyone afraid of losing their jobs, losing the game, losing their...
They're everything.
It's so important to them.
joe rogan
I mean, they rioted when he got fired.
You saw the riots, right?
doug benson
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
They were Ashton Kutcher.
Ashton Kutcher would have flipped a car over if he was there.
Because the story just got quickly more and more horrifying, but they just reacted immediately.
joe rogan
That he was fired.
doug benson
Yeah, as soon as he was like...
How horrific must it be?
Also, for him to come out and say, this is horrible, I'm going to finish out the season and then retire...
Like, his first move should have been, I'm out of here.
Like, I'm going to retire and I fucked up.
But saying, I'm going to finish out the season, that gave everyone, like, this hope that, like, they were going to have a great championship season and then worry about this later.
And so then when they turned around and really, you know, he ended up being fired or resigned or whatever, however it went down, that's when they started flipping shit over.
joe rogan
If this story was in a book, it would be too fantastic.
He'd be like, this is too crazy.
This is not something that could happen.
doug benson
No, it's like a Stephen King book.
joe rogan
Yeah, it is, really.
It really is.
It really is.
You would think there's no way that could happen for this long.
There's no way it could go on for 20 years and he could just keep getting away with it and keep mining these...
doug benson
The children have such shame and confusion by the incident that they never tell anyone.
joe rogan
How many kids?
doug benson
It's also kids.
Most of this stuff happens with kids that are familiar with the person that attacks them.
It's rarely an abject stranger who gets in their life and quickly does something horrible.
joe rogan
Yeah, we actually spent a good deal of time talking about this in the podcast last night, or last time, about how there were some emails back and forth from some priests where they actually talked about getting boys from troubled homes.
Getting boys who don't have good connections to their family, they don't have anyone to count on, get them.
They go after them and groom them.
Some dark shit, man.
doug benson
Yeah, so this Sandusky guy, like we were making fun of earlier, his side of the story talking to Bob Costas was ridiculous.
joe rogan
It was scary.
Bob Costas is so good at those interviews, too.
doug benson
I just wish he would have said, why did you need to shower at all?
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a good question.
brian redban
Why is no one asking that?
That's ridiculous.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a really good question.
Well, I think everybody...
doug benson
But he did press him pretty hard.
joe rogan
He did.
I think everybody assumes that guy fucks kids.
I think everybody's assuming that.
But they have to be careful in how they proceed with questioning him.
No, that's what they're saying.
doug benson
They're saying that he did this radio interview to spin the court of public opinion.
joe rogan
That's ridiculous.
doug benson
You know, but I think it just made it worse.
joe rogan
Way, way, way, way worse.
Way worse.
doug benson
Because he went into it with the hubris and the confidence of thinking that as long as I just go in there and deny it, at least some people might believe me.
joe rogan
Yes.
doug benson
But then saying, just being such a creep and saying like, I just love being around children.
No, the answer is no.
I would never do that to a child.
joe rogan
Yeah.
doug benson
That's the answer.
brian redban
Isn't there...
Are there parents that are going to try to murder him now?
unidentified
I'm sure.
Oh, yeah.
doug benson
No, that's the thing.
unidentified
I'm sure, right?
doug benson
I think not only is the media outside his house now, I think that's another crazy thing.
Letting him go on bail is ridiculous.
I mean, certainly in jail, I don't think they treat child predators very well.
joe rogan
They don't.
Yeah, you have to isolate that guy.
doug benson
But isolate him in a jail.
Letting him go on bail, I don't get that at all.
joe rogan
I think that guy's going to ice himself.
brian redban
He might ice himself or get out of And his access to kids and showers have to be limited at least to a couple hours a week or something like that.
joe rogan
Access to kids and showers.
doug benson
He can't do it daily.
unidentified
Shut up!
doug benson
Yeah, because that was what happened to him the first time around is they took away his key to the showers.
What?
brian redban
What?
doug benson
Yeah.
joe rogan
They took away his key to the showers.
doug benson
That's what the school did.
joe rogan
Really?
doug benson
Because the first time it happened, they believed him when he said it was just horseplay.
There was no...
brian redban
So he had to only do hot tubs after that?
joe rogan
Oh my god.
doug benson
He had to find a new venue.
joe rogan
Well, he takes them to hotel rooms.
That's what he does.
He brought kids with him on the road.
They were staying with him.
doug benson
It's such an amazing cover.
I always joke around on stage about how, wouldn't it be funny if I did all I've done to create this idea that I'm a podcomic and it turns out I'm a cop and at all my shows everybody gets arrested?
joe rogan
That's funny.
doug benson
You know, like a giant sting operation.
joe rogan
A lot of people in the pot movement are probably undercover cops.
doug benson
You think?
joe rogan
Yeah, there was one that died in a motorcycle accident.
He would meet at this, it was like a normal chapter, one of those groups, you know, and he was a local guy and he was in this group and died in a motorcycle accident.
It turned out he was a cop and he was undercover the entire time.
doug benson
Or maybe just enjoying himself?
joe rogan
I don't think so.
I think that was his job.
I think that's what came out of the story.
doug benson
There's a lot of advocates that don't smoke.
joe rogan
Of course.
Yeah.
doug benson
Which is an interesting, like, those people are like saints to me.
Like, why go to all this trouble for something that you're not doing?
But they see the big picture.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a freedom issue.
The main issue is, well, why would anybody be able to tell you what you can't do?
Someone telling you that you can't get high is absolutely nuts.
It's crazy.
I always say, if you were on an island with two people...
And one person said, listen, man, I don't want you getting high.
You get high, I'm going to put you in a cage.
He'd be like, I'm going to have to kill this guy.
Guy wants to lock me in a fucking cage if I get high.
That's ridiculous.
doug benson
Yeah, for any behavior that I want to do, like if he said you can't have sex with a cantaloupe...
joe rogan
And if there's four people, it's just as ridiculous.
If there's four million people, it's just as ridiculous.
It's ridiculous for one person to tell you what you can and can't do with your body.
That's not going to affect other people.
It's not an issue where you're ruining the fucking environment.
It's not an issue where you're damaging the civilization.
You're not doing anything.
doug benson
Well, you're doing it wrong, then.
joe rogan
You're doing it wrong, for sure.
Where are you at this weekend?
Are you going to do the Sunday show at the San Jose Improv?
doug benson
Your shows are sold out already, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, they're sold out.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
doug benson
I got one show.
I got one show at 4.20 in the afternoon on Sunday, San Jose.
joe rogan
That is ridiculous.
Boy, you are sticking to a meme.
doug benson
Yeah.
joe rogan
You're going to cling to that motherfucker.
Do you like the show early in the afternoon?
doug benson
It's so much...
Well, you know, you got to play clubs where they don't have a lot of windows, you know, so it still looks like a nightclub or whatever.
unidentified
Right.
doug benson
It's still got the same vibe.
unidentified
Right.
doug benson
But I've had a really good time because I'm done for the night.
I'm off for the rest of the night at 6 p.m.
when I do those.
And I get to actually go out and enjoy these cities that I visit all the time and never see because I'm in the stupid comedy club all night.
Not to say that that's not also a great way to...
joe rogan
You just do them on Sundays?
doug benson
But Saturdays and Sundays.
And some cities I'll come in and I'll do both days.
Coming up at the Sacramento Punchline, Martin Luther King weekend, I'm going to do a show on 420 Saturday, 420 Sunday, 420 Monday.
I just hang out there all weekend, have my nights free.
There's a lot of like-minded people in Sacramento.
joe rogan
Shazam!
I see what you're saying.
doug benson
It's a fun place.
joe rogan
So that's a really smart thing to do, man.
So you sort of reorganize the weekend.
You take a spot where it wasn't ordinarily open.
You open it for you.
And you can do it in comedy clubs.
doug benson
It's easy.
The only people that show up are the ones that I told about the show through my podcast or through Twitter.
And so the crowds are great.
We play that game that I play on the podcast, the Leonard Maltin game.
We play that with audience members in my opening act, and it's a blast.
unidentified
Oh, really?
doug benson
Yeah, people from the audience come up and challenge whoever I brought with me on the road for that particular gig.
And it's super fun.
joe rogan
And they're awake.
4.20 in the afternoon.
doug benson
Yeah, and you know what, though?
Except in Denver.
Both times I did it in Denver, somebody managed to get drunk.
But everywhere else...
They're sober.
They may be a few beers in or whatever, but they're not that kind of trash that you see when you do shows at night, especially in a town where there's some sports thing in the afternoon, and they've been drinking since then, so they come to your show and they're pre-drunk before they even start drinking their two-drink minimum.
joe rogan
So is that how you're doing all your shows now?
doug benson
Not all of them.
I also do, like, I'll go into a club and just be there on a night they're normally closed, like Sunday, Monday, or Tuesday.
Like I'm doing the Fort Lauderdale Improv on Monday, December...
home improv on tuesday december 12th and they're both huge clubs they're really nice but they're huge so every time i play there you know normally if i have to do two or three shows i'm just not gonna every show is gonna have a lot of empty seats right but if i just go in and do one on a night when they're not even normally open hopefully everybody that's you know into me and has the night available will you know come check it out yeah that improv is gigantic i I think it's 600 plus seats, right?
joe rogan
Isn't it?
brian redban
It's a palace.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a big goddamn place.
You know, when you think about how many shows you're doing.
Two shows on a Friday night and 600 seats?
Holy shit, man.
That's a goddamn theater show.
That's a theater show.
It's hard to get that many people to come to.
And it's not really a comedy club anymore.
Whoa, you're dying.
What happened to your voice?
That's the new impression.
This is Mafia Doug Benson.
brian redban
Hey, everybody.
doug benson
My eyes are watering.
joe rogan
I think this podcast is pretty much over.
What do you think?
doug benson
Yeah, sure, since I can't talk anymore.
joe rogan
Is that really your voice now?
doug benson
For like a minute or two.
Wow, you're serious.
You know how you choke on air sometimes?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Wow.
doug benson
Yeah, because I was on one of those tirades where I wouldn't take a breath.
joe rogan
Do you want a water or something?
doug benson
I got water.
joe rogan
Okay, you're okay?
unidentified
Okay.
Damn, I've never seen anybody fall apart like that before.
doug benson
Fall apart?
joe rogan
I mean, you're okay.
doug benson
Look, I can tweet about it, I haven't fallen apart.
joe rogan
Vocally, just vocally, fall apart.
doug benson
I'm trying to pull it back faster than I normally would, but...
brian redban
Yeah, I hate that shit.
doug benson
Yeah, it sucks.
joe rogan
When did you start doing this?
You don't do any weekends anymore?
You don't do like a regular weekend at a club?
doug benson
Every once in a while, but it has to be kind of a smaller club that I really like.
joe rogan
You don't do midnight Saturday shows, do you?
No.
doug benson
That's ridiculous.
Three shows in one night.
That's the other thing I like about doing the 420 shows or even 8 o'clock, but it's the only show.
I love doing one show.
Comics would like to go from club to club to club.
joe rogan
You don't like to do that.
Well, you have a big chunk.
What do you do, like an hour or so?
What do you do?
doug benson
Like I do 45 of stand-up and then an extra 15 or 20 of playing the game and fucking around with the crowd.
joe rogan
Yeah, and that's pretty much all people want to see.
And then you're done.
You feel like you did it.
You don't want to redo it.
doug benson
Yeah, it's weird.
It's weird.
You know, it's not a movie where they just start it up again and it's the same thing again.
joe rogan
Well, the real problem with second shows is sometimes I'll be in the middle of a second show and I'll go, did I do this bit yet?
Because I can't remember.
Because I've gone through a whole show and now I'm in the second show again.
When you're on stage, you're pretty much in this zone.
And I'm in the zone and I'm like, I'm in the zone, but...
I've been in the zone for a long time, but did I do that earlier?
I don't know if I did that joke.
Holy shit.
And then you panic.
You're like, was that the first show or was it the second show?
Should I try this?
And then you go into it and you're like, oh my god.
doug benson
You kind of have, your bits tend to be on the longer end.
You don't really bring up things that are super brief.
joe rogan
Not much of a one-liner.
doug benson
In my case, if it's a really short joke, it gets a big laugh when I say it again.
Because everyone's like, ah, he said it again.
joe rogan
You don't ever play up the fact that you're high.
I heard about people doing fake shots.
I'm like, man, you can't do fake shots.
That's terrible.
doug benson
No, but...
Yeah, if the intention is to like, hey everybody, I'm doing a shot.
But if I tell the staff, send me up fake shots if people offer to buy me one.
unidentified
Really?
doug benson
Because you can't say no when a shot comes up to you.
Unless you're like, if you go, I'm an alcoholic or something.
If you go, I'm six years sober, I'm not going to do it.
But with my act and the fact that I've already got a cocktail up there, they'll send me up shots.
And sometimes I'll do them and I'm fine with it.
But a lot of times...
joe rogan
You reserve the right to drink fake shots.
doug benson
Yeah, well, and you know, it just gets it over with if you just drink a fake shot.
And now that I'm telling everybody, yeah, I'll never do it again.
joe rogan
Yeah, people are going to know now.
doug benson
No, the secret's out.
joe rogan
You ruined your game, son.
doug benson
But once, you know what I mean?
If you do the shot quickly, it's over with.
But if you stand there and act like you're not going to do it, then people start chanting and make a big thing out of it.
joe rogan
The worst would be, now all the people that went to your shows before are going to think back of the times you threw a shot back and screamed, yee-haw, and jumped up and down.
doug benson
I don't act like...
joe rogan
God damn!
unidentified
Yeah!
joe rogan
Meanwhile, it was just water.
doug benson
I don't act it too big.
I just pretend to drink it.
Because even when I normally drink a shot, I usually don't make a lot of noises.
joe rogan
He gets on top of the stool.
Bring me a fucking glass of tequila!
And it's just a glass of water.
doug benson
Hit it!
And I do a whole song and dance number.
joe rogan
Close the glass against the wall.
Fucking cunt!
All that and we find out you're just stone cold sober drinking water.
Putting on a show.
doug benson
I'd have to say that It's probably happened maybe four times in my entire career.
Because the combination of me saying to the staff, send me up a fake shot, combined with somebody wanting to send me up a shot, because it doesn't happen every show, because I'm not...
joe rogan
So what happens to the money?
There's some money laundering going on here.
doug benson
Where?
joe rogan
Because a fake shot is not worth anything.
They're charging someone for a shot.
It's money laundering.
doug benson
Regular shots barely worth the price of...
joe rogan
But doesn't it seem like there's money that's unaccounted for there?
Yeah.
doug benson
Yeah, I think so.
joe rogan
Money laundering.
Okay, that shit's illegal.
doug benson
Well, let me tell you how I balance it out in the rest of my years as a comic.
When I'm at the bar in a comedy club and somebody offers to buy me a drink, I always turn it down and say, the club gives me free drinks and I don't want you to buy one.
And then a lot of times they go, well, I want to buy you one anyway.
It becomes important to do something for you, which I appreciate that.
Right.
But it's frustrating to have that kind of argument with somebody.
Don't spend your money.
Please don't spend your money.
joe rogan
To people that have a chance to meet you for the first time, it's important to them.
doug benson
I'll stand right there and talk to them.
I don't say, I don't want you to drink and run away.
joe rogan
They want to give you something.
It's a gesture.
doug benson
Well, that's why I never turn down weed when people give me weed.
joe rogan
Really?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You trust it all?
You don't ever think, man, I can be smoking.
doug benson
We've had this conversation before.
You're on the more paranoid end of the whole weed thing that I am.
brian redban
I've never looked at weed and been like, oh my god, I'm not taking that.
That looks like...
doug benson
Yeah, I just think it's such a crapshoot.
I mean, let's say I've probably smoked from strangers, either a bud they gave me or some sort of joint.
It must be in the thousands at this point.
Wow.
unidentified
Thousands.
doug benson
Nothing's happened yet, so the odds seem incredibly good that I'll get through a few more years of it.
joe rogan
Dude, I'm so happy for you.
I'm glad you pulled through it.
doug benson
Yeah, it's great.
joe rogan
It's dangerous though, man.
doug benson
What's dangerous?
joe rogan
Do you ever worry about provocateurs, perhaps cops posing as stoners?
Want to get high with you?
doug benson
Why would they go to that kind of trouble?
joe rogan
Because you're a voice of the movement.
doug benson
What drives me crazy is when they pull over Willie Nelson's tour bus.
That's some weird shit.
joe rogan
And get him for pot?
Come on.
doug benson
Yeah, come on.
Find something else or just leave him alone.
joe rogan
He's in trouble for that.
They were letting him off the hook, but then someone got offended by the fact that he is above the law.
doug benson
Some idiot got offended.
That's the craziest thing to get mad about.
unidentified
Who is this guy?
joe rogan
Well, Texas, man, you don't understand Texas.
doug benson
Oh, well, a lot of places I don't understand.
joe rogan
Texas is a real tricky one.
There's some big cities, and then there's some fucking people that live in a time warp.
You know, you got Dallas, you got Houston, you got Austin, you got San Antonio, you know, you got some cool cities.
And then on top of that, you got these weird spots in between the cities that go on forever and ever, and they're massive.
There's so much room in Texas, man.
It's a country, you know, it really is.
It's a giant-ass fucking state.
doug benson
But boy, do I love that Austin, though.
joe rogan
Oh, that's the best.
doug benson
That's one of my favorite cities of anywhere.
joe rogan
Yeah, of all time.
doug benson
And that's where I'm going to do...
You know that Cap City Club you played there?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
I love that place.
doug benson
I'm going to do...
Not only am I doing 420 shows, I'm combining my other thing that I love to do now, which is podcasts.
And at 420 on Thanksgiving weekend, on Saturday and Sunday, I'm doing two different tapings of my podcast, and That I'll then be able to turn around and put out on the internet.
Because that's another thing I don't like about...
I love about stand-up comedy, the fact that it's just you in the audience and no one else hears it.
But thanks to podcasting, I want to get more stuff out to people.
So this is a great opportunity for me to show up in a town and instead of doing stand-up, I do the podcast.
joe rogan
So you're saying that you can't put your stand-up on the internet?
doug benson
Well, you can't.
I am going to do a thing coming up soon.
I think my next album is gonna be two discs.
One is me, like, I'll wake up the day of the shows and I won't smoke pot all day.
Maybe even stop the day before or something.
And just be crazy super sober for the first recording.
And then between the first show and the second show, smoke as much weed and do as much edibles as I can.
And then try to do the exact same set again.
Try to do the album again, and then people can listen to both and see the good and the bad.
brian redban
Like Lose Your Conclusion 1 and 2. Yeah.
joe rogan
Lose Your Conclusion?
Is that Guns N' Roses?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
But with Doug Benson?
doug benson
I like that.
Baked and Unbaked, or Stoned and Unstoned, or something like that.
joe rogan
What did Guns N' Roses do?
brian redban
Lose Your Illusion.
joe rogan
Was it two versions of it, or was it just two discs?
brian redban
Two different albums.
doug benson
It was two completely different albums.
Brian was just having fun.
joe rogan
He's a silly boy.
doug benson
Yeah, he just says things.
joe rogan
This motherfucker.
So you'll sell one or the other?
Is that one you'll release for free?
doug benson
No, no, you buy them both.
joe rogan
It's a double album.
doug benson
You buy them both.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
doug benson
And I also dream of a day where I can do a tour where, like, you know how Pearl Jam sold, like, every night of a tour on CD that one time?
And bootlegs obviously happen to everybody all the time.
But I'd like to make my own bootleg and just make, like, do a tour of ten cities and the same act, essentially, whatever I'm doing at that time.
And then record it in each place.
And you can buy more than one if you want to see the differences.
Or you can just buy the one from the city you're from.
Or from a city you think will be funny to hear me interacting with people of that city.
joe rogan
That's a funny idea.
doug benson
They have a bunch of different recordings to choose from Some comics used to sell recordings of the show That you just went to Yeah They'd sell like CDs And a club or two has tried to kind of toy with that sort of idea a lot of goddamn cds but it also doesn't it only appeals to the drunkest audience members yelled out the dumbest shit you know it's kind of a weird thing to say hereby what you just what just happened right but that's what i'm doing with podcasts like
Like, I do podcasts where people were there live, and then they listen to it later.
Yeah, if it's cheap enough.
brian redban
And then, like, you collect their email address, and you go, here, I'm going to send you a link to where you can buy this for five bucks.
joe rogan
You have your podcast set up where some of them are free, some of them aren't?
Is that how you do it?
doug benson
There's a weekly free one.
joe rogan
A one-weekly free one.
doug benson
And then there's bonus free ones that I do, like, where I record, like, if I'm in a rental car with another comic, I'll just record an episode of the show while we're driving.
joe rogan
Right.
doug benson
And so I put those up pretty frequently, and then...
Like, once or twice a month, usually once a month, I'll have an episode that's $2 in the comedy album section of iTunes, which is a fun place to be and to be that cheap, because, like, right now one of mine is, like, number one, because it's only $2, and all the albums behind it cost, like, $8.
joe rogan
Damn.
doug benson
So you get a nice placement for a little while.
And then it falls pretty fast, because, you know...
People will buy it later, but most people buy it right away or shortly after it becomes available.
joe rogan
I will ask you off-air how much the money is.
doug benson
Well, I don't know if it's just a different route that I've gone instead of having actual advertisers.
But I am not against having advertisers.
I just haven't found the right match.
joe rogan
Yeah, people don't...
doug benson
I just got the ones that every other podcast has.
joe rogan
Yeah.
doug benson
And I did those for a while, and I just felt like, if I listen to a bunch of podcasts, if I had to always hear about Audible books, every podcast I listen to...
brian redban
But what about 1-800-Flowers, Doug?
doug benson
I never did that one, but yeah.
Or Adam and Eve, or whatever.
I wouldn't want to hear about the same thing all over the place.
I think each show should have its own thing.
Unfortunately for me, movie studios can't really support me because I trash movies.
And I can't get a movie theater chain to support me because people go see movies at the theater near their house.
joe rogan
Do you ever feel confined by the theme of your podcast?
doug benson
The movie thing?
joe rogan
Yeah.
doug benson
Well, I would if I were you and your interest in and the amount of movies you see is so far fewer than what I do.
So I could see where that could be limiting if you...
joe rogan
Do you see a movie every day?
doug benson
But why would you choose that?
joe rogan
No, but I don't mean that.
I mean just you.
doug benson
But if you weren't a comic and you worked in UFC like you do, do you think you'd be able to find ongoing satisfaction just talking about UFC as a podcast?
joe rogan
Yeah, sure.
Definitely.
doug benson
Yeah, so that's how much I love movies.
It's just that I could talk on and on and on about that.
joe rogan
But if I just said, do just a UFC podcast every week, I'd feel a little defined by it.
unidentified
But you would.
doug benson
You would.
Because you've got so many other areas that you're interested in.
But I'm saying somebody who's just really, that's their main focus.
Because for me, growing up, my main focus was just movies.
joe rogan
Really?
doug benson
I wanted to watch them and be in them, and that's all I cared about.
joe rogan
Do you write scripts or anything?
doug benson
TV, too, of course.
Yeah, a little bit, but I've grown really...
That's the good and bad of podcasting, is it's allowed me to talk about and participate in what I want to do without ever having to sit by myself and write.
joe rogan
Oh, I see.
doug benson
The process of just sitting and writing something while the outcome is very satisfying.
Right now, I'm working on a book, and it's torture for me to sit down and write a chapter of my book.
joe rogan
Why is that?
doug benson
Because just sitting there by myself writing is just no fun to me.
I want to always have a TV on or listening to something or going out and doing something.
brian redban
Go to Starbucks.
joe rogan
What is that?
doug benson
Yeah, exactly.
joe rogan
Is that an ADD thing?
doug benson
That's what those guys are.
That's what they are.
I do enjoy sometimes sitting in a Whole Foods or something and getting work done on my computer.
brian redban
Yeah, Whole Foods is awesome.
doug benson
Because it's fun to have all that weird stimuli around you, but you can still just kind of look at what you're doing and then just look up whenever anything, It gives you ideas too when you're looking around.
If you have your Twitter handy, you see something stupid happening.
joe rogan
Especially when you're baked to the gills.
We've got to wrap this bitch up.
doug benson
But that's the thing.
Thank God I do have the marijuana.
Not God, but you know what I mean.
Thank Jesus I have marijuana because that does help to make writing less boring and frustrating.
joe rogan
Doug Benson.
Thanks for writing.
It's boring.
Thank you, Doug.
Thanks for being on the podcast.
Doug Benson.
Follow him on Twitter.
D-O-U-G-B-E-N-S-O-N. Son Benson.
Bitches.
Respect.
And follow The Death Squad on iTunes.
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doug benson
Don't forget, fuck those things.
joe rogan
Use it, abuse it, and follow what Doug's instructions are.
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Do whatever you want, man.
I'm not fucking telling you what to do.
Doug Benson, are you telling anybody what to do?
doug benson
No, sir.
joe rogan
No, sir.
We might have smoked too much pot before this podcast.
Just a little bit.
doug benson
Before?
joe rogan
A little bit.
In the middle of it, too?
doug benson
In the middle of it, maybe.
brian redban
And Doug will be joining us tomorrow on the Ada Pop podcast.
joe rogan
Yeah, Doug will be joining us tomorrow.
Tomorrow we're going to be doing the Ice House.
Tomorrow we're at the Ice House in Pasadena.
The second stage, you want to go to stage two.
It's a small place.
It's only 85 seats.
It's probably going to sell out.
doug benson
I'm going to be high-end drunk for that.
joe rogan
I haven't even tweeted it yet, but we're going to tweet it right after we get off this podcast.
But they're awesome shows.
We do them there as much as possible the last time we did it.
It was a packed house.
And this time we got John Reap.
We got Benson.
unidentified
Little Esther.
joe rogan
Little Esther.
brian redban
Yoshi.
joe rogan
Yoshi.
brian redban
And a secret surprise guest.
joe rogan
And a secret surprise.
It's going to be a big, fat, fucking, chilled out party.
So enjoy.
So thank you to everybody.
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