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Nov. 15, 2011 - The Joe Rogan Experience
02:44:00
Joe Rogan Experience #157 - Tom Segura, Christina Pazsitzky
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b
brian redban
09:15
c
christina pazsitzky
22:03
j
joe rogan
01:36:47
t
tom segura
24:43
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justin wren
00:05
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joe rogan
Are we doing it?
Jesus, I'm not prepared!
unidentified
Ha, ha, ha!
joe rogan
The Joe Rogan Experience is brought to you by The Fleshlight.
My favorite masturbation toy.
The only one that I've ever used ever in my life.
And if they hadn't sent me one, I probably wouldn't have used it.
But they did, and it is awesome.
It is way better than beating off.
And let's be real, everybody beats off.
So do yourself a favor and just give in to reality.
Don't touch that thing.
Everybody's touched that thing.
Yeah, it's disgusting.
Everybody's touched it.
christina pazsitzky
Brian.
joe rogan
Do yourself a favor.
Go out and get yourself this amazing, beaten-off instrument.
It's really a fantastic piece of engineering and design, designed by a guy, actually, whose wife was pregnant, and he couldn't have sex, you know, because it was like six months into pregnancy, and it gets a little sketchy, you know, like, what the fuck am I doing here?
You know, how creepy am I that I'm sticking, you know, especially if you're...
If you're like, just let me put it in your mouth.
You know, she's all pregnant and shit.
The baby's inside of her.
You're just trying to get your load off.
You're better off...
You feel like you're supposed to be beaten off.
tom segura
Sure.
joe rogan
From personal experience...
tom segura
What's the cutoff point?
joe rogan
Mrs. Rogan liked it all the way up until the end.
tom segura
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
But to me, I was like, this is the deal.
You tell me when it's go time.
Because I don't want to be the one who's trying to fuck you while you're walking around with a fucking...
10 pound baby inside you.
It's just crazy.
christina pazsitzky
I heard the ladies like it though.
joe rogan
Yes, they do.
They get really horny.
They get really horny.
It's supposed to actually be good to...
It actually helps the baby come out or something like that.
It helps dilate you or some crazy shit.
tom segura
Does it get hotter to you as it moves along?
Are you like, oh yeah, 8 months.
No, no.
joe rogan
It's very strange.
unidentified
It is strange, right?
tom segura
You can only imagine it.
joe rogan
It becomes almost alien.
Because you're still horny.
Everyone gets horny.
And she's still an attractive woman.
But the issue is, there's a baby in the mix here.
And it's on her.
So it's a very different experience.
When it's just a woman...
And her body and your body, it's just sex.
It's just fun.
It's just two people enjoying each other's bodies and lust and passion.
But when you've got a baby inside a person, boy, that's a totally different mix.
Totally different mix.
tom segura
And knowing that like eight months along that like it's you doing that a time before.
No, but it's that your swimmers did that.
So you know it's like your own product is in there.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's very strange.
And it's also, you are now acutely aware of what the experience really is.
The experience of actually having a kid, the experience of making new human beings.
It is, you know, you have been tricked into some ancient mechanism that's designed to make animals create more animals.
And you are, most of your life moves in the flows of these needs and wants.
Whether or not you realize it or you don't realize it, once that baby comes out, you are forced into a recognition.
It's a real humbling experience because you realize, wow, this whole thing is way bigger than me.
And you also realize, well, hey, now there's this person that I love more than me.
This little tiny person.
I'm responsible for everything that has to do with their life and their education, their experience, and to guide them and protect them.
So while this is all happening, you're trying to shoot a load into a chick.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, it's like you don't feel the same way.
christina pazsitzky
It's not sexy when you put it that way.
joe rogan
It's strange.
So, this gentleman invented something that he could relieve his manhood with.
That he, you know, didn't feel like waking up the wife while she's about to throw up in the morning and stick his dick in her butt.
He tried to be nice.
He's a nice guy.
unidentified
What about your butt?
joe rogan
Your butt's not pregnant.
Your butt ain't pregnant.
So anyway.
It's fucking gross.
christina pazsitzky
Do you guys understand that I have to do that at some point?
I gotta make a life.
joe rogan
Maybe.
You don't have to.
christina pazsitzky
But the biological imperative is there.
I'm starting to feel...
I'm 35 and it's starting to kick in.
And it's terrifying.
And not the birthing part.
That part doesn't scare me.
Because I've taken some huge shits and I feel like I could do that.
unidentified
You could do it.
christina pazsitzky
But the growing inside of me like an alien, and your insides spread.
joe rogan
It's very psychedelic.
Life becomes very different than it was.
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That was a commercial, by the way.
That's how we do our commercials, man.
This is the only way I can do them.
I listen to people do canned commercials on other radio shows, and I respect what you're doing, but God, that seems boring.
I'd rather really say something about it every time.
I use it.
It's a fucking awesome product.
Another awesome product is AlphaBrain.
We are sponsored by Onnit.com and O-N-N-I-T.com.
And there's another thing that we've got now called New Mood.
And what New Mood is, it's a 5-HTP supplement.
And a lot of people, like Neil Brennan turned me on to this stuff first.
And 5-HTP, actually when you take it in, allows your brain to produce more serotonin.
It breaks down into serotonin and it actually makes you feel good.
It gives you like a nice feeling of well-being.
And Neil started taking it and he said he was taking like...
Like, three or four times what you're supposed to take.
And I was like, is that, like, safe?
He goes, I don't know, but I feel great, so fuck it.
So I started taking it after he told me about it, and it definitely does something.
It gives you, like, a weird little minor feeling of happiness is, like, the best way to describe it.
Very nice.
And this stuff, this new mood stuff with this stuff, what we've done and we've taken 5-HTP and added L-tryptophan.
And L-tryptophan actually breaks down.
It's like one of the building blocks for 5-HTP. So we take the two of them together, and it gives you sort of like a time-release quality.
And it's just very, they're very mellowing.
I like it a lot.
It's really a good, calming supplement.
And again, like I say with all the Onnit supplements, if you think they're too expensive or whatever, you can definitely get it for cheaper.
Just copy the ingredients, man.
Go online, find the...
Find the ingredients.
They're readily available on Onnit.com.
Go buy the stuff in bulk, and you'll definitely save money.
And I'm happy if you do that.
I swear to God I am.
tom segura
Is that like calming in general, or like calming before bed kind of thing?
joe rogan
Well, I take it before bed.
I take two of them right before I go to sleep.
take them during the day.
justin wren
You know, some people like to take them if they're not getting enough sleep or if they're just extra stressed out or something like that.
unidentified
I love that.
joe rogan
It's a real weird world, the world of nootropics, because it's sort of just sort of been explored now and just sort of coming into public consciousness.
And there's a lot of misconceptions about what it does or what they do.
And I don't think each one works for everybody.
There's some that I'm not feeling them.
I try them and it doesn't do shit for me.
And there's other people that swear by the stuff.
So you've got to kind of just, without me getting to too much depth, because it would really take up the whole of the show, go look up nootropics and try a bunch of different things.
It's fascinating, but I think that they can enhance the way your brain functions.
It makes it feel a little better.
It makes it work a little better.
And, you know, there's a lot of arguments back and forth about this stuff, and for a good reason.
Because, you know, a lot of people, when you're saying that you can make people think better, boy, that sounds a lot like big dick pills.
You know, people always say that to me, like, how is what this is bigger than big dick pills?
Well, you know what, man?
It's better in that it actually works.
It might not work for you, but it works for me.
And it works for other people that I know, and it's 100%.
It's not like a placebo effect.
It gives me the most lucid dreams that I've never had in my life.
And the big shift has been taking this stuff.
And as I said, there's a bunch of different ones available online.
And a lot of different people have written about them.
And you could kind of create your own little concoctions.
It's a fun thing to get into.
It's kind of interesting.
I believe in vitamins.
I take multivitamins.
I take minerals.
I take amino acids.
I take fish oil.
I take a lot of different things as well as I juice every day and I drink this kale shake every morning.
I think I'm a big proponent.
christina pazsitzky
Have you always been like that?
joe rogan
I try to be.
I try to be as much as possible because I'm a big proponent of taking care of your body.
I know when my body feels better.
tom segura
You look terrible.
joe rogan
Right now?
tom segura
Very fat.
joe rogan
When it doesn't feel good to me, When it's not working well, nothing works well in my life.
I find that my life is always best in order when I'm in shape.
Because when I'm in shape and I feel good, then I don't have to worry about that.
That's out of the way.
So now I don't feel like a lazy piece of shit.
So since I don't feel like a lazy piece of shit, all these other things seem to fall in place much easier.
tom segura
You said something one time to me that I thought about a bunch.
You said, I think if you better yourself in one area of your life, it has a residual effect.
joe rogan
Yes.
tom segura
And I think that's true.
I thought about that a lot.
Like that when you are doing something to better yourself, it's not just like if it's working out.
The benefit is there's a benefit that falls into like your, it can fall into your Creative stuff or your work stuff because you're bettering yourself and it has that residual effect.
You know what I mean?
Because if you work out and you take it seriously, which I've started to more, even though I'm still a lazy shit, like I've started to more, then you think about things more like, well, if I'm going to work out like this, I need to eat better.
And if I'm going to be tired, I need to rest more.
And that then will better your other aspects of life.
You're going to feel more rested.
joe rogan
You can give yourself awesome advice.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
The real problem is getting yourself to do what you would advise someone else to do.
That's where it becomes difficult.
tom segura
Right.
joe rogan
You know, when you try to tell somebody to do something that you don't do yourself.
Like, hey man, you should work out me while you fucking eat your cheeseburger.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, a lot of people do that, right?
unidentified
Sure.
joe rogan
There's a lot of people that do that.
Because they know.
Somewhere in the back of their head, they know the advice that they would give themselves.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
They're just, for whatever reason, not quite bright enough to give it.
Or not quite motivated, or not quite clear enough, or too conflicted in whatever way, in whatever area.
You know, everybody's got their own thing, their own confliction that allows them to, you know, branch off into passive distraction.
But I think the big key is balance.
The big key is a balance act.
You cannot only be work.
You must have fun.
But you cannot be only fun.
You must have work.
There has to be things that get done.
There has to be information that gets absorbed.
Your brain and your body.
If not given a task, if not given a purpose on this planet, starts to think, what the fuck am I here for?
So the only way for true happiness...
Ultimately, it is silly.
Ultimately, we are just one frame in an infinite movie that goes on forever.
And that, you know, this life might not be important.
But the only way to enjoy it while you're here is to find things that you enjoy inside of it.
And you can't totally, completely look at the big picture, but ultimately you can anyway.
Because even if you look at the big picture with your life and you get past that, you go, well, at least I got past that.
The fuck you did!
How about the big picture of the universe?
How about the big picture of the sun?
The sun's only gonna last another few billion years.
Then that bitch is gonna fizzle out, and everything on this fucking planet is either gonna die in some horrible explosion when it goes supernova, or it's gonna freeze to death first.
It's ridiculous.
It's all temporary.
Every fucking thing that's ever been done.
So you can get crazy like that.
But what I've found is we're stuck here.
And the only way to enjoy here is to find stuff you like doing, do that, and have a good time.
Have a good time with here.
And one of the best ways to have a good time...
It's just take care of your fucking body.
christina pazsitzky
Can I tell you something?
I think you're totally right.
Have you ever read Heidegger?
joe rogan
No.
christina pazsitzky
Well, he said that the meaning of being, capital B, the big picture, is located in care.
Meaning what we attribute our care or what we give care to.
So you could care for a pair of headphones and that gives your life inherent meaning.
I'm sorry, life is not inherently meaningful.
Are you talking?
joe rogan
It's meaningful when you care about something.
christina pazsitzky
When you attribute care to something.
joe rogan
What are you doing, Brian?
brian redban
Look at the screen.
unidentified
What?
brian redban
Look at the Ustream.
It's pretty sweet.
christina pazsitzky
God, it's killing me.
joe rogan
What is it doing?
brian redban
It's kind of just making...
joe rogan
Okay, but why are you doing that while she's talking, man?
brian redban
Huh?
unidentified
Oh, no.
brian redban
It's making the special effect.
joe rogan
Okay, but why are you interrupting her conversation?
unidentified
I'm not.
brian redban
I'm just staring at her.
joe rogan
You were, bro.
brian redban
All right, I'll stop it.
joe rogan
That's what just happened.
brian redban
It was pretty sweet, though.
joe rogan
Okay, we don't care, though, man.
A lot of people are not going to see this on Ustream.
So let her finish what she's saying.
She said something important.
christina pazsitzky
I love when you scold, Brian.
joe rogan
Well, that was ridiculous.
He just interrupted you while you were on a roll.
christina pazsitzky
It's so fucking disrespectful.
joe rogan
With some childish shit.
christina pazsitzky
How dare you?
joe rogan
Some childish shit, kid.
unidentified
I love you, Brian.
joe rogan
We love you, but you're a little baby.
Anyway.
christina pazsitzky
But you're right, and it is about attributing care.
Because life in and of itself, I don't think life is inherently meaningful.
I don't think that there is some magical wizard behind the curtain that created all of us and we're all so special and awesome.
I think it is what you make of it.
And I wish I exercised more, is the point.
unidentified
Because...
christina pazsitzky
I'm very serious.
I'm stuck in my head.
You know what I mean?
I've been this way since I was a little girl.
When everyone else was running around, I was laying on top of the monkey bars.
And I've always been super fucking lazy.
And I wish I had this desire.
I wish I had your athleticism or just something about me that enjoyed sweating.
I just fucking hate it.
joe rogan
You don't have to love it.
Everybody's different.
It takes every type of people to make this world go round, but we're going to give you some alpha brain before you leave.
Maybe once you take that, it'll get your fucking head in gear, and you'll see the light.
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That also was a commercial.
christina pazsitzky
That was a commercial?
joe rogan
Yes.
It was a commercial and a conversation.
See how we do it?
That's how we do our commercials here.
christina pazsitzky
Wow.
joe rogan
At the Joe Rogan Experience podcast.
It's organic.
unidentified
I grow these bitches in manure, son.
joe rogan
Hit it.
unidentified
The Joe Rogan Experience.
Train by day.
Joe Rogan podcast by night.
Oh, sweet baby Jesus.
joe rogan
this The dynamic doer are here, ladies and gentlemen.
The funniest couple I know.
The only couple of comedians worth a fuck.
Wow.
There's a couple of other ones.
I guess Duncan and Natasha are still hanging there.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, I like them.
joe rogan
They haven't pulled the trigger, made that shit legal.
Tom Segura and Christina Segura, who doesn't use the last name Segura on stage.
christina pazsitzky
No.
joe rogan
Why do you not?
Why do you not?
Together you are more strong.
christina pazsitzky
Do you want the real talk?
joe rogan
Yes.
christina pazsitzky
Legally, my name is Segura.
But, stage and because...
tom segura
Official documents, kid.
christina pazsitzky
But because my parents are Hungarian immigrants, they escaped from Hungary in 1969, went to Canada.
I was born there.
I moved to L.A. in 1980. Right.
So that stupid Polak Pajitski name, it's like my parents fought so hard to get me here.
And every time I see a club put it on the marquee, it makes me proud.
And it's a little, stick it to, you know, I'm a fucking dumb Polak and you guys can suck it.
unidentified
Wow.
christina pazsitzky
That's who I am.
And, you know...
joe rogan
That's very, very admirable.
Don't you think they would like it more, though, if their name didn't hold you back and keep you from succeeding?
christina pazsitzky
Yes, absolutely, Joe Rogan.
joe rogan
Because nobody could remember your fucking name.
Say it again.
christina pazsitzky
Pazitsky.
joe rogan
Pazitsky.
Good luck spelling that.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
It's phonetic, guys.
joe rogan
Good luck on Jeopardy for all the marbles.
tom segura
The other thing is, at what point, like, if you've started, would you consider a name?
Like, obviously, you know...
20 years in or 10 or 5. But after you've done a couple of things and you have your name and then you change your name, people are like, who the fuck are you?
joe rogan
Yeah, you could fuck yourself up and start from scratch.
tom segura
You were 7 years in.
joe rogan
Whatever you do, don't hyphenate that shit.
That's a goddamn cop-out.
christina pazsitzky
I agree with you.
joe rogan
I knew a dude who hyphenated and he took the wife's name last.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Yeah, somebody lost.
christina pazsitzky
Vagina.
joe rogan
Somebody failed.
unidentified
That's not happening, babe.
tom segura
We're not doing that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
He was also a self-proclaimed feminist.
He was a male feminist.
christina pazsitzky
Really?
I believe that can exist, but I don't know.
joe rogan
I don't like the concept of feminist anymore than I like the concept of masculinist.
I like the concept of someone who's masculine-centric.
That's ridiculous.
Who the fuck is more masculine-centric than me?
I mean, everything I do is meathead shit.
unidentified
You know?
joe rogan
Fucking cage fighting and choking people and small I'm not only concerned with men.
I'm concerned with the whole fucking human race.
I mean, you like to dance.
I dance my ass off.
I did take dancing classes.
unidentified
You did?
joe rogan
Yeah, I did a dance scene in Zookeeper.
tom segura
That's awesome.
joe rogan
With the lovely Leslie Bibb, the gorgeous blonde woman from Talladega Nights.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
She played my ex-girlfriend.
unidentified
She's hot.
joe rogan
I love her.
It's like I rarely, rarely get to act.
And my scenes are with her and Rosario Dawson and Kevin James.
I was like, oh, so cool.
tom segura
Yeah, she was really funny.
unidentified
She's hilarious.
She's great.
tom segura
She was great in all those scenes, man.
joe rogan
I wish I could tell you some shit that this chick would say when we're hanging around in between scenes.
We're in the van on the way.
She's fucking hilarious, but out of respect for her.
And I would not repeat anything she said.
They were quite shocking.
tom segura
Oh, that must be really funny stuff.
brian redban
She's hilarious.
joe rogan
She's like a comic.
She's like a female comic.
tom segura
That's great.
joe rogan
She's hilarious and cool as fuck.
christina pazsitzky
You're very balanced.
You like these alpha male things, but I find you to be very balanced and you appreciate.
joe rogan
Well, the alpha male stuff, you know what?
I wouldn't say alpha male stuff, just masculine type things.
christina pazsitzky
Yes, you are masculine.
joe rogan
But I like.
Why am I supposed to pretend that I don't like something?
unidentified
Absolutely.
joe rogan
I like loud Mustangs.
I like when you rev the engine and it's stupid and it goes...
I have a Mustang.
It's my favorite car.
It's the dumbest car I have.
But you know what's good about it?
It's loud as fuck.
And it's stupid.
And I like listening to Leonard Skinner music in that.
tom segura
Really fucking loud.
joe rogan
And you know, yeah, you go, look at you, you fucking loser.
I don't care.
That is what I like.
I like watching MMA. I like playing pool till fucking 6 o'clock in the morning.
These are the things I actually enjoy.
I mean, I'm not going to pretend, because I did for a long time in my life.
When I was growing up, I always felt like there was something wrong with me.
First of all, I grew up in Boston, which is a very pussy-whipped town.
I mean, it's a very manly town, but there's not a lot of women there, and especially amongst quote-unquote intellectuals.
I mean, hanging around college people...
The amount of colleges per capita is really high.
It's like one of the highest numbers in the country.
unidentified
Boston?
tom segura
61, I think, colleges and universities.
joe rogan
Ridiculous.
And so most people are really educated and most people are intelligent.
And when you get a lot of educated, intelligent people and they're trying to impress people, they tend to go towards the super liberal.
They tend to go towards...
There's something wrong with you.
You're a barbarian.
You need to evolve.
You would tell someone that you do martial arts, and they would look at you like you're insecure, like there's something wrong with you for pursuing that, that this is something you need to get past.
I've had those conversations with people where they judge you.
For the things you enjoy doing.
And what they're basically trying to do is, look, no one wants to fucking run hills.
No one wants to beat a tire with a sledgehammer.
No one wants to do rounds on the bag.
No one wants to take class and fucking strangle people for hours and hours.
But the only way to get good at all that stuff is to do that.
So if you can persuade other people to not get good at all the things that make you uncomfortable, then you don't have to feel as uncomfortable.
So if everybody was scrawny and sick and smoked cigarettes and drank whiskey all day, you wouldn't have to worry about getting your ass kicked.
And ultimately, that's one of the reasons how, one of the things, the motivations for people when they do, like, get upset at people for liking other things.
You know, if you actually love, what do you, like, hot rods?
christina pazsitzky
You're threatened by it.
It's threatening.
joe rogan
Yeah, what are you doing, stupid?
You like hot rods and big dogs?
Like, what do you like big dogs?
tom segura
Yeah, but the people that say that are always the, like, if they're that critical about what you enjoy, it's because they're less happy.
christina pazsitzky
They're insecure.
joe rogan
It takes you a while to realize that, though.
I thought they were right, and they would be angry and critical with me about things, and I would think that they were right.
And I would say, wow, you know, maybe I am a...
And then eventually it took me a while to go, why do they care?
It took me a while to go, why are they giving me a hard time for things that I enjoy?
If I like listening to Kiss, I like Kiss.
unidentified
I'll be in my car, come on and love me.
joe rogan
I'll sing along.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
I'll fucking sing along.
tom segura
I think most people don't get to that point.
I think it is something you start to figure out as you get older.
I was having this thought literally earlier today.
Don't you ever look back and think about people that were in high school with you that you feel like had that clarity but you don't realize it until you're older?
You're like, that person's disposition and their outlook was incredible at like 15. I think it's their parents.
joe rogan
You grow up in an environment where your parents don't buy the bullshit.
It's way easier to not buy the bullshit because You know, my parents were very unusual.
My dad is a, my stepfather's a hippie, and he was a computer program and then an architect.
He's a very, very bright guy.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
joe rogan
Who was always, you know, a pot smoker, too, when I was young.
christina pazsitzky
And you openly, like, would tell you, like, him, or would you smoke with him?
joe rogan
I smoked with him when I was eight.
unidentified
What?
christina pazsitzky
No way!
joe rogan
Just once to see what it was like.
Because I asked him, I'm like, what are you doing?
You guys are smoking pot?
What is that?
And he goes, you want to try it?
And I go, can I? He goes, yeah.
He goes, just a little, but you can try it.
And he gave me, I don't remember the effects.
I don't remember what happened.
Probably fucked my brain up for life.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
But I was taught really early on to don't believe the hype.
That's awesome.
That there's a lot out there that's bullshit.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
joe rogan
A lot of laws.
I got confused about something being illegal.
I'm like, but it's illegal.
This is illegal.
And my stepfather was always like, let me tell you something, laws that are not there to protect people, they don't need to be there.
Those laws are nonsense.
And it was a really interesting way he put it.
The laws that don't protect anybody are just bullshit laws.
And I was like, wow, who the fuck ever thought?
And then it really is when you really start to think about personal choice laws.
I remember in New York, you couldn't get tattooed.
Tattoos were illegal.
For a while, back in the 90s, I had to go to Connecticut to get a tattoo.
I was like, how fucking stupid is this?
When I grew up in Boston, kickboxing was illegal.
We used to have to go to Rhode Island to fight.
We could fight in Taekwondo tournaments in Massachusetts, but we had to go to Rhode Island to fight.
Why?
The more laws there are, the more problems there are.
Let people figure out what the fuck they like and let them pursue it.
We have way too many laws and we have way too many people that have a career in not just protecting these laws, but enforcing these laws and building more laws.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
It's like there's a whole business.
People always say, kill the lawyers first.
Oh, for sure.
It really is ridiculous when they can catch little imperfections in the text and the language that things are written and they can exploit these things.
Why is everything so fucking complex?
tom segura
It is a business.
christina pazsitzky
Or the lawsuit, yeah, to sue somebody over...
You know, in Hungary, there's an amusement park that the roller coaster is made out of wood, and it doesn't even stop to let you on.
unidentified
Oh, my God.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, dude, it's from, like, the Russian communist group.
And it's the most fun and scariest shit, because you could fucking die.
joe rogan
Oh, fuck that!
brian redban
How slow does it go to get on?
christina pazsitzky
Maybe like five.
Down to five.
And you literally, like the people in it, jump off.
unidentified
You run in.
christina pazsitzky
And then the fucking bar doesn't even come down on your lap.
It's like this.
And you better hold the fuck on.
Oh my god.
But you think anybody sues the amusement park if they fall off?
No, it's your fault, dummy.
You rode the...
joe rogan
Well, I think you should be able to sue for certain things.
I certainly think they should fix the fucking rollercoaster.
That's not what I'm saying.
What I'm saying is that there's a lot of laws that are in place that just don't need to be there.
Sometimes things are just ignored.
Common sense and public opinion.
It's common sense to not buy crack.
If you want crack, you can get crack.
Yeah, crack's illegal.
There's no crack...
People that are out in the street protesting why crack isn't legal.
There's no crack advocates.
There's no crack legislators.
But you can go get it.
If you want to go get it, you can go get it.
You want to arrest the guy who's selling it, this poor fuck that's running around selling crack?
What you need to do is make treatment centers.
What you need to do is find out what the fuck happened to this poor kid that he thinks it's okay to sell crack.
That's the real fundamental problem.
I don't know anybody if I said, hey man, we're going to sell something that makes your dick fall off.
You know, they know it's going to make their dick fall off, but we're going to sell it anyway.
Are you down?
You want to make some money?
I don't know a single person that would go, what?
I'm going to make people's dick fall off?
Fuck!
So if you wouldn't do that, would you sell crack then?
Would you sell something that's going to ruin people's lives?
Of course you wouldn't.
There's no way you would do that.
Nobody would want that over their head.
I mean, even if it was a lot of money, man, you would consider it because you really do hate to be broke, but you don't want to do anything ultimately that ruins lives.
Yeah.
So that's the real issue.
The real issue is why are these people willing to sell crack?
Why are these people willing to put other people's lives and put themselves and their wants and their selfish desires ahead of all these other people's lives?
That's the real problem.
tom segura
It's a desperate world, desperate situation.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's not that crack is legal.
It's that anybody would want crack.
The real root of the problem is not that crack is illegal.
It's that why would anybody want crack?
That's the real problem.
christina pazsitzky
Have you ever smelled crack?
It smells terrible.
joe rogan
The real problem is, who's educating the children?
Who's raising them?
Who's exposing them to certain things?
Who's protecting them?
Who's making sure that you develop a person that doesn't have anger and hate and selfishness inside them to the point where they want to sell people poison?
Poison that they're addicted to.
tom segura
A lot of shitty parents.
joe rogan
A lot of shitty parents, man.
That is the real root of the issue.
unidentified
For sure.
joe rogan
That's the real, real root of the issue.
tom segura
You see it in adults, you can tell right away you had a really bad upbringing.
joe rogan
Well, you see it when you have kids and your kids are around other people's kids.
You see people fucking scream at kids when you know where they learned that shit from.
You see them angry and hit each other with sticks and shit.
You see weird shit with kids that you know is going on at home.
Did you see that video of that lady, the young girl getting beat by her father who was a judge?
tom segura
Yes, I saw that.
joe rogan
Dude, you don't even want to watch it.
It's horrendous.
She was 16 at the time, and her dad is a judge in Texas.
tom segura
And he's a family judge.
Planning judge.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
And he beat her with a belt for downloading shit off the internet.
I think she downloaded some illegal stuff off the internet, like, you know, wares or something like that.
Songs, music.
So she downloaded it illegal.
He beat her with a fucking belt.
I mean, beat her.
Like, full blast whips.
unidentified
For a while.
joe rogan
And he's yelling, I didn't get my lick in!
I didn't get my lick in!
And this is a guy who did not know he was recording, being recorded, right?
So this is what this guy's like.
That's when it's really terrifying.
When you see people behind their mask, you know, this guy, his mask is that he's a judge.
And by the way, they're not even going to pursue charges against this guy.
tom segura
This is insane.
There was a statute of limitations on that.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's insane.
That's an assault.
It's not even just beating your kid.
We used a weapon.
That guy should be in jail forever.
Fuck him.
You pussy.
You hit a little girl with a belt.
What, because your life is frustrating?
Because you're getting old?
Because your dick doesn't work anymore?
Which is it?
Which is it that causes you to pull the trigger on beating your fucking baby with a belt?
christina pazsitzky
Mind-bumbling.
tom segura
It's hard to watch.
joe rogan
I would never stop hitting that guy if I saw that happen.
I would never stop hitting that guy.
I would never run out of one more.
I would just keep giving him one more.
Fuck you.
You want to beat a baby with a belt?
A girl?
You fucking piece of shit.
That that could even be argued that that guy is not a plague.
A blight on society.
You fucking shithead.
You could do that to your daughter?
Ugh.
Man, shun you, you fuck.
You should live on a mountain now.
No one should talk to you.
You should be locked up in a fucking cage.
unidentified
Fuck you, man.
christina pazsitzky
And the pedophiles, too, for that.
joe rogan
Yeah, this fucking Sandusky thing, this Joe Paterno thing.
Holy shit, is this dark.
You know what's really crazy?
The guy who found him and turned him in, his name is McQueery.
It's almost like this is fiction.
It's almost like the world is becoming more...
As 2012 comes along, the story falls apart.
The plot starts to reveal itself.
The writing behind the script.
Look, a guy named Weiner was a politician who was sending pictures of his dick to girls online and thought he could get away with it.
I mean, what?
Rush Limbaugh takes so many Oxycontins, he goes, deaf.
christina pazsitzky
What?
That was the best, yeah.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
What?
This guy, McQueary, finds the most beloved football coach ever is guilty of shielding another beloved assistant coach from fucking little boys for 20 years!
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
This guy was taking these kids on fucking trips.
They were staying with him.
unidentified
He was boning little boys for years.
tom segura
And they allowed them to.
joe rogan
They allowed them to.
Wow!
christina pazsitzky
I mean, we should be allowed to beat them publicly and pedophile.
I mean, I don't know what the solution is to sterilize them.
unidentified
They have to be killed.
They have to be killed.
joe rogan
You have to kill them.
They've destroyed lives.
tom segura
I don't think people would be...
joe rogan
They forfeit their right to live.
christina pazsitzky
Irreparable damage done to those kids.
joe rogan
Yeah, they've destroyed all those boys.
That guy fucked will never be the boy that they could have been without getting fucked by themselves.
That guy owes a hundred lives.
He owes a hundred thousand lives because he owes every life that these poor fucked up kids are going to interact with and perhaps molest boys because of what happened to them.
That's why it happens in the first place.
unidentified
Absolutely.
joe rogan
So this motherfucker caused a ripple effect, and this McQueary guy, who still has his job, even though he didn't go running to the police.
You know, everybody wanted to keep their job, it seems like.
It seems like they were shielding this guy, and everybody wanted to keep their job.
But the guy who saw the boy getting fucked in the ass should have ran straight to the police.
tom segura
That's McQueary.
christina pazsitzky
Wait, but that's not what happened, right?
You know that they weren't fucking.
joe rogan
Oh, they were horsing around.
christina pazsitzky
They were just horsing around.
Right.
tom segura
They were just sliding on the floor.
joe rogan
That guy's story is that he heard a rhythmic slapping and came in to see a 10-year-old boy with his hands on the wall while this guy was fucking his little boy ass.
Whoa!
tom segura
And then did you see the development today as far as the email?
joe rogan
No.
tom segura
So McCreary sent out an email to friends, and they had excerpts of it on the news that said that, he said, you guys know I didn't just turn and run away, like they're saying.
I had to make quick decisions.
I made sure it stopped.
So he was saying that...
joe rogan
How does he make sure it stopped without following that fucking pedophile?
tom segura
He's suggesting that he intervened at that moment.
joe rogan
He intervened?
tom segura
Well, stopped it.
In other words, the first reports said that he saw it.
unidentified
That he walked away.
tom segura
Right.
He, in his email, is saying, I didn't just see it and walk away.
I stopped what was happening.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, is that right?
So he separated?
joe rogan
This is his version.
Did he say why he didn't go to the cops?
tom segura
No, because they just got a copy of an email he sent to friends.
It doesn't go into that duty.
joe rogan
How did he not go to the cops?
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, you have a duty.
unidentified
Of course.
tom segura
That's the part that people are saying that he went to his father, and then the next day...
joe rogan
He went to whose father?
tom segura
He went to his own father to tell him what happened.
joe rogan
Right.
tom segura
And then the next day, he went to Paterno.
And then Paterno told the athletic director and maybe the president or the athletic director told the president.
joe rogan
Well, that guy's a guy who's trying to keep his fucking job and that's pretty gross.
What that guy's supposed to do is call the cops.
tom segura
Immediately.
Everybody knows that.
joe rogan
First call is to the cops.
christina pazsitzky
Or at least some street justice.
joe rogan
And you don't let that motherfucker leave.
Yeah, you don't let that motherfucker leave.
You beat that old man senseless.
You leave him there and then you call the cops.
That old fucking creep fucking that 10-year-old boy.
You're supposed to want to be violent because if you have a tribe, okay?
It's a tribe of a few people that care about each other and protect each other from all the other fucking terrible things in the world.
When you find something like that, that's a goddamn disease.
The real problem is that we have so many people.
There's so many people.
There's 300 plus million of us on this one continent.
And because of that, not even one continent, one piece of the continent, America...
And because of that, we devalue each other, man.
We don't appreciate each other and we don't appreciate threats like that.
Threats become over there.
They're a threat over there.
We can separate from it.
I live in a gated community.
I close my door at night and turn on my alarm system.
I have a gun.
I'm not worried.
We need to get rid of all those problems.
And if you had a community and you had a guy like this paterno fuck who allowed this other fuck to bang little kids in the asshole and didn't have him locked in a cage, you're supposed to tell the both of them.
You were not looking out for the community.
You guys were looking out for your own asses.
All of you.
From the guy who caught him who didn't go to the cops to the paterno guy knew.
They all fucking knew.
You can't be around a dude who's banging kids in the ass and not know.
You cannot!
You cannot!
This guy's taking little boys on the road with him?
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, it's really dark.
unidentified
He was sitting on the road?
Yes.
joe rogan
He had a charity to help little kids that were underprivileged or in troubled homes.
And it's the craziest thing.
But there was some priests that had written some stuff about finding boys.
It was really dark shit.
And they shared emails back and forth.
But one of the things that they were saying was that look for boys with troubled childhoods.
Look for boys who don't have a good relationship with their parents.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And those are the ones they prey on.
The boys who are lost and alone because they're vulnerable and they'll do anything for love.
They don't even know why they're having sex with a man.
They just know that they're happy that this man cares about them because the people at the orphanage don't.
That this man is buying them toys.
unidentified
He would do this.
joe rogan
He would buy them toys.
He would take them to games.
He would do all these things and bone them.
It's like classic priest shit.
It's the classic priest shit.
tom segura
The level of planning and evil that goes into...
I'm going to set up a foundation.
A charitable foundation for troubled kids.
joe rogan
And we're trying them and we're convicting them right here on the show.
And I know that's wrong.
christina pazsitzky
We can assume...
joe rogan
I know that's wrong, but if that Sandusky guy isn't, if he's not arrested, and that the McQuarrie guy, how is he not in jail?
I don't understand that.
That doesn't make any sense to me.
tom segura
Sandusky didn't do himself any favors with that interview that he did on air yesterday with Bob Costas at all.
christina pazsitzky
Oh boy, man.
tom segura
Oh my god, when...
Like, there's just...
joe rogan
So you get it?
Can you get it, Brian?
It is...
tom segura
Hair.
joe rogan
I would like to hear it.
christina pazsitzky
The answers are so obviously not the correct answer.
Yeah, I mean, there's...
tom segura
First of all, there's Stuffy Volunteers, which if you have doubts, you should probably have far less doubts.
unidentified
Like what?
What was it on?
tom segura
It was on NBC. It was on Rock Center with Brian Williams.
joe rogan
Sandusky?
Yeah It's There's certain things Like if I don't know Was it Matt Lauer Who interviewed it No it was Bob Costas Oh Bob Costas He's even better He's tremendous Bob Costas is a brilliant man Yeah Very smart guy His grasp of the English language Really makes you feel Excellent He's a great guy too I don't know words He beat me up on news radio.
tom segura
He did?
joe rogan
Yeah, we had a scene, a fight scene on news radio.
And he flipped me.
He flipped me on the ground.
tom segura
He's a brilliant guy.
joe rogan
Yeah, I got a chance to talk to him all night.
He was really cool.
Very smart guy.
tom segura
Well, there's just things like, I mean, I don't know if we're going to get the interview or not, but like when you...
You know, when you're asked, uh, are you a pedophile?
Are you sexually attracted to young boys?
What do you think, like, somebody who isn't, what would they say?
christina pazsitzky
What's the correct answer to that?
joe rogan
No.
Fuck no.
tom segura
Okay, well, what about, am I attracted sexually?
I mean, I'm not sexually.
christina pazsitzky
Define attracted.
Yeah, but, uh, can I just bring up an Oprah Winfrey thing I learned on the Oprah show?
unidentified
I would love to hear this.
The web is buzzing on Bob Costas' telephone interview with Jerry Sandusky.
Speaking for the first time since...
tom segura
It doesn't seem like it's right.
joe rogan
Is this not it?
The interview.
No, they're talking about the interview.
That's not it, obviously.
Just look for the interview.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, the audio is amazing.
tom segura
It's incredible.
christina pazsitzky
But Oprah, because Oprah was molested, and she had this whole segment where she brought pedophiles on the show, and they actually got to say how they court these children, why they do it.
And anyway, basically, they groom children.
Like you said, the vulnerable ones, they can tell which boys or girls are psychologically Fragile.
And they groom them.
So that's what that's called.
Where they give them the candy and the courtship.
And actually family members too molest a lot.
She's like, if you have an uncle that is really into hanging out with your girls, have them sit on my lap.
That's actually how it happens.
It's the neighbor.
It's the uncle.
It's not the stranger.
It's actually people that you know.
joe rogan
What the fuck is wrong with him?
christina pazsitzky
It's a red band.
tom segura
I think it's like faulty products.
joe rogan
Is this it?
unidentified
This is it.
Innocent?
Completely innocent and falsely accused in every aspect?
joe rogan
Good question.
unidentified
Well, I could say that I have done some of those things.
I have horsed around with kids.
I have showered after workouts.
I have hugged them and I've I have touched their leg without intent of sexual contact.
So if you look at it that way, there are things that would be accurate.
Are you denying that you had any inappropriate sexual contact with any of these underage boys?
Yes, I am.
Never touched their genitals, never engaged in oral sex.
Right.
tom segura
Whoa!
unidentified
What about Mike McQuarrie, the grad assistant who in 2002 walked into the shower where he says, specifically 10 or 11 years old, that his hands were up against the shower wall and he heard rhythmic slap slap slapping sounds and he described that as a rape.
I would say that that's false.
What would be his motive to lie?
You'd have to ask him that.
What did happen in the shower the night that Mike McQuarrie happened upon you and the young boy?
Okay, we were showering and horsing around and he actually turned all the showers on and was actually sliding across the floor and we were As I recall possibly like snapping a towel, a horseplay.
In 1998, a mother confronts you about taking a shower with her son and inappropriately touching him.
Two detectives eavesdrop on her conversations with you and you admit that maybe your private parts touched her son.
What happened there?
I can't exactly recall what was said there in terms of What I did say was that if he felt that way, then I was wrong.
During one of those conversations, you said, I understand.
I was wrong.
I wish I could get forgiveness, speaking now with the mother.
I know I won't get it from you.
I wish I were dead.
A guy falsely accused or a guy whose actions have been misinterpreted doesn't respond that way, does he?
I don't know.
I didn't say to my recollection that I wish I were dead.
I was hopeful that we could reconcile things.
Shortly after that, in 2000, a janitor said that he saw you performing oral sex on a young boy in the showers in the Penn State locker facility.
Did that happen?
How could somebody think they saw something as extreme and shocking as that when it hadn't occurred, and what would possibly be their motivation to fabricate it?
You'd have to ask them.
it seems that if all of these accusations are false, you are the unluckiest and most persecuted man that any of us has ever heard about.
Oh, I don't know what you want me to say.
I don't think that these have been the best days of my life.
Sandusky's attorney, Joseph Amendola, insists the charges filed by the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania...
joe rogan
The attorney got a young girl pregnant.
He got a teenager pregnant.
unidentified
Cool.
Did he really?
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's hilarious.
When he was 49, now you can kill it.
49 years old, he got a teenager pregnant.
tom segura
Yeah, it goes on.
It goes on.
Birds of a feather.
I think you're totally right that you shouldn't convict somebody just when charges, but then if you did have your doubts, does that make them fade away?
joe rogan
Yeah, that cements it that this guy's a creep.
No question about it, that's not how you respond.
Of course not.
People that are guilty, that are pretending to not be guilty, never realize how other people see them.
They always just try to, you know, stay calm and keep it together.
You would be freaking the fuck out.
If that was you, and all of a sudden someone was saying that Tom Segura has been touching little kids and blowing them in a bathroom, you would go crazy.
You wouldn't be, you'd have to ask them.
unidentified
That's right.
joe rogan
There's no fucking way you would leave it at.
You'd have to ask that.
unidentified
No.
That's right.
joe rogan
You'd be like, I have no idea.
This is horrifying.
christina pazsitzky
It's disgusting to me, too.
Et cetera, et cetera.
joe rogan
It's not only that.
It's put me in this terrible position where it'll never be erased from some people's memories that have heard this.
It's a terrifying thing.
If you think someone falsely accusing you of being a child molester like this, if someone was really falsely accusing you, you would be trapped.
unidentified
It's unbelievable.
joe rogan
You'd be like raging.
You'd be like, I haven't done anything.
What the fuck is going on?
And people have been falsely accused before.
tom segura
For sure.
joe rogan
I would like to see how they react.
Because it doesn't sound like that.
christina pazsitzky
Do you know of any popular cases?
joe rogan
I wish I did.
I just assumed.
Oh, Brian.
I just assume that people have been.
christina pazsitzky
Yes.
tom segura
Especially, I mean, I'm sure it's happened for sure.
joe rogan
It has to have happened.
tom segura
In Molestation.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tom segura
In Murder Once, that always, like, it blows my mind when you see, like, DNA exonerate somebody.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tom segura
And they served, like, 20 years.
And you're like, that person was in prison.
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tom segura
For 20 years of their life.
joe rogan
In a hardcore prison for like murders and rapes and shit.
tom segura
And the whole time he was like, I didn't murder somebody.
Everybody was like, sure, dang asshole.
Like, I'm sure you didn't.
joe rogan
Did you see that guy that fought on Manny Pacquiao's undercard?
Oh my God.
christina pazsitzky
Wait, what?
No, tell me.
joe rogan
No, it wasn't Manny Pacquiao's undercard.
tom segura
It was like a week or two before.
joe rogan
Yeah.
This guy was 52 years old.
He had just gotten out of jail where he was in jail for I think 29 years.
tom segura
Yes.
joe rogan
For a crime he didn't commit.
tom segura
He got...
unidentified
I would die in jail so fast.
It's horrific.
joe rogan
It's so sad, so scary.
tom segura
He was boxing champ inside.
joe rogan
He won his comeback fight, 52 years old.
He had a professional boxer.
He actually looked really good for a 52-year-old.
He was in good shape.
It's just so disappointing and depressing.
tom segura
Just his philosophy, too.
I saw a piece on him before the fight and just how he wasn't wanting to kill everybody in the world, even though I can't imagine the anger you How long would it take him to be sane again?
joe rogan
How long would it take him to bounce back?
That's a long goddamn road.
tom segura
He has a great attitude.
Way better attitude than people who haven't served 29 years.
joe rogan
It's incredible.
I wonder how he pulled it together like that.
tom segura
I don't know.
I really don't know.
joe rogan
It's really sad.
And that's the one reason why I'm not 100% for capital punishment.
I mean, I'm for capital punishment when you absolutely know, but the reality is, man, there have been bad cops, just like there have been bad postmen.
tom segura
Don't you think people would not be, like, you know, there's a certain amount of people who oppose the death penalty for crimes you can commit now?
Don't you think there would be less people opposed to it if it were for child molestation?
If you're like, that's a punishable by death crime now.
joe rogan
Well, you'd have to prove that the person was 100%.
Yeah, but if they were.
If you could prove it 100%, yeah.
Well, you know what?
I think it would be harder to get people to pull the trigger for child molesting because a lot of people have creepy uncles that they love that are probably deadlers.
So I think it's more prevalent in our society than we'd like to admit.
And it really is a symptom and a side effect of the sexual repression that we all enjoy in this country.
christina pazsitzky
They're wired that way.
If your kink is that, it's unfortunate because how do you express that kink?
joe rogan
Well, I think at the root of a lot of really fucked up deviant behavior is a lack of sexual choices and a lack of sexual education and the fact that it's dirty, the fact that sex is forbidden, the fact that it's something that you feel like you're getting away with when you do it.
And then you add to that fucked up people that molest kids and you throw that all in a big batch together and then you have these kids That grow up with this fucked up memory and they repeat the same behavior over and over again.
And what is the root cause of it?
I mean, all of it has got to be like shitty parenting.
Shitty parenting and the kid being molested, right?
That's the root of all of it.
But also, you know, there should be a little bit more knowledge.
We should be a little bit more open about what the fuck is going on sexually with people.
Like in high school, do you think they have classes where they talk about people that are just trying to fuck you?
Do you think they have a class like that?
christina pazsitzky
Oh, they should.
joe rogan
I wish they did.
Where they say, hey, look, this guy with candy and the open van, he's just trying to fuck you.
He's trying to fuck you and your ass.
Wouldn't that be great to tell 10-year-olds?
unidentified
Sure.
joe rogan
They really should know, right?
Because otherwise, the first time they get raped, they're like, what the fuck is this?
christina pazsitzky
They did for drugs.
I had D.A.R.E. Drug Resistance Education.
All it did was teach me what drugs I wanted to do when I was old enough to do them.
It didn't really teach me shit.
brian redban
Remember when you had to pass around the fake drugs that looked like cocaine?
unidentified
Yeah, that was the best.
brian redban
Or actually, it was real stuff that the police had confiscated.
And you're sitting there looking at real weed when you're like 12 going, wow, this is cool looking.
I've never seen this plant before.
christina pazsitzky
But wouldn't it have been more valuable?
joe rogan
I can get some.
My brother's got some.
christina pazsitzky
Wouldn't it have been more valuable if they were like, hey, if some guy tries to fuck you in a van, run.
brian redban
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
But there used to be PSAs.
joe rogan
Don't ever trust any adult that's by themselves and wants to take you somewhere.
tom segura
Stranger danger.
christina pazsitzky
In the 80s, they had PSAs.
Don't talk to strangers.
Don't open the door if you're alone.
joe rogan
So terrifying.
christina pazsitzky
They don't do that now.
joe rogan
So terrifying.
Every now and then you'll see someone somewhere, some fucking sketchy looking person and you just wonder, wow.
tom segura
I do think it is the unacceptable, unfixable kink.
I think it's like there's bad wiring and there's some products that you're like, this thing doesn't fucking work.
It's a broken person and there's really no...
joe rogan
Yeah.
tom segura
Because everything else, if you're like, this is what arouses me, you can get your, you know, but this is the one that's like, you can't, sorry.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can't.
And it's a psychological issue, too.
It might not even be sexual, so like, making them impotent might not even do it.
They might still want to touch the kids and do weird stuff.
Who knows?
christina pazsitzky
Cut their balls off.
joe rogan
I don't know.
I don't know if it's psychological or it's just purely sexual.
You know, I think it's a weird fucking obsession.
It's terrifying.
Terrible, terrible obsession.
And it needs to be fixed.
Someone needs to figure out a way to fix that.
I think probably there is a way with psychedelic drugs, but they haven't pursued it enough to figure out what's the right dose and how to administer it correctly.
If someone's a child molester or someone's done something fucked up and you give them a heavy...
Heavy dose of ayahuasca or heavy dose of ibogaine or something like that, I guarantee you they would be so disappointed and disgusted with themselves.
They would either kill themselves or they would never ever do it again.
tom segura
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, I think so.
I think that's true with a lot of people, a large percentage of the population.
I think most people, like when a guy said he wanted to kill himself, I wish I was dead.
That's what they think.
That's what they think.
They don't want to live this way.
They're just stuck in this goddamn feedback loop, this horrible loop that they got in as a small child.
That Sandusky guy was probably molested when he was a kid.
Probably by another football coach or something like that.
tom segura
I think that I saw in a story that his parents started a home for kids, and he lived in that home growing up.
joe rogan
Oh, bingo.
Well, there you go.
christina pazsitzky
That's where he got it.
joe rogan
Yeah, he got it either from one of those kids that he went in the home with, because a lot of those have been molested.
If you're going to share a home with troubled children, a lot of their troubles are sexual.
christina pazsitzky
God damn it, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, goddammit, man.
Yeah, and you know what?
While this fucked up country is overseas stealing heroin and minerals in Afghanistan and pretending that it's for our greater good, they could be over here trying to fix the real problem in this country, which is fucking the youth.
The real problem is the quality of our fucking plants that are growing, the quality of our seeds that have been planted, the quality of the human beings that are developing right now.
And for a good percentage of them, it's a fucking mess!
And no one wants to fix that.
Could you imagine if we had an entire country of people that lived in a good neighborhood?
An entire country of people that lived in a place where you didn't have to worry about your kids getting fucked by some creepy man.
christina pazsitzky
You mean the Netherlands?
Where it's awesome?
joe rogan
Sort of, but even there.
The Netherlands and Holland?
A lot of crazy shit goes on in Holland.
Holland's a dark place.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, I don't know enough about it.
joe rogan
Yeah, the Red Lake District, all those whores.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, but that's just for tourists.
I don't think the native Dutch...
I was just there a few weeks ago.
joe rogan
Did you stand up out there?
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, yeah, for some Showtime thing.
The natives were saying, like, we don't go to those places.
The Dutch are actually conservative people socially.
joe rogan
So it's more just...
christina pazsitzky
It's a business thing.
They realize that that's what attracts us dopey Americans.
unidentified
Well, we can smoke dope in public, and we can fuck hookers.
christina pazsitzky
And it's so crazy to us.
We can have sex, and we can do all these things, and that's why we go over there and do that.
And English boys, too.
joe rogan
Holland is not an innocent place, though, by any stretch of the imagination.
unidentified
I'm sure.
joe rogan
It's a wild-ass place.
Do you know that's where some of the best kickboxing in the world comes from?
No!
Really?
The Muay Thai in Holland is at some of the highest level in the world.
A lot of fighters from other countries go to Holland to train in kickboxing.
christina pazsitzky
I had no idea.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's a great culture.
I don't know.
There's a great culture of kickboxers from that part of the world.
christina pazsitzky
They're repressed.
joe rogan
There was a few guys back in the day, and there's a bunch of them that came successful.
Particularly this guy, Ramon Deckers, who went over to Thailand and fought.
The best ties in the world.
And he was a small guy, so he was the size of the ties.
And then there was a guy named Rob Kamen.
And Rob Kamen was a larger, bigger guy.
You met Rob, right?
tom segura
Yeah, he's a big dude.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's a bigger guy.
tom segura
He looks like it would hurt.
joe rogan
He's probably the best kickboxer that ever lived.
tom segura
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, and he's real super technical.
And he's from Holland as well.
They're all crazy.
They're wild, wild people, man.
Yeah, fun people.
tom segura
Did you see that sports science on Boss Ruten's game?
Kicks?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
Ridiculous.
tom segura
They were like, this is all wrong.
All the readings are off.
joe rogan
Yeah, he'll hurt you.
tom segura
And then he did it again.
They're like, your insides are being traumatized if you get kicked by this guy.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
Boss Root can kick fucking hard.
He was one of the first guys in mixed martial arts fighting.
He was really fighting in an organization called Pancrase, which is sort of a hybrid...
It wasn't quite mixed martial arts.
They had weird rules.
You could kick full blast, but you couldn't punch to the face.
You could only slap to the face.
You could only pull your hands back and use open palm strikes.
But what Boss Rootin figured out how to do is pull his hands way back.
He had really flexible wrists.
So really, he was punching you with his palm.
Because with most guys, they were slapping, which doesn't have the same impact.
But what Boss was doing...
He was pulling his hands way back like this, and he was throwing punches.
He was the first guy to figure out that he could throw punches with his palms, and he was fucking people up.
And he would kick them, and you would just go, whoa, nobody kicks that hard in this style of fighting.
He was kicking like a real powerful Muay Thai guy would kick, but he was applying that in MMA. He was one of the first guys.
One of the first pioneers.
Yeah, it's a crazy goddamn sport.
The sport of fighting is crazy.
christina pazsitzky
I don't mean to brag, but I studied Kung Fu for two years in Griffith Park.
joe rogan
Tai Chi?
christina pazsitzky
No, I did Kung Fu style, and my teacher taught us those Muay Thai kicks, and she said that they get calluses on their shins.
joe rogan
Well, you sort of do, yeah.
They get kind of numb.
A lot of guys have bumps and knots and shit.
You get bloody spots and bruises, and they heal up, and it gets tough eventually.
Some guys even kick bamboo trees and shit.
They kick banana trees.
And they kick it just to kind of...
It kind of has some give to it, but it's still pretty hard.
christina pazsitzky
It does feel good to kick stuff hard.
unidentified
Does it?
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, I miss it.
joe rogan
What do you think about when you do that?
christina pazsitzky
Goddammit, just...
joe rogan
What do you think about Tom?
christina pazsitzky
Mommy is just...
Oh, never!
No, I don't treat you like the enemy.
I don't have anger.
joe rogan
How come you guys get along so well as a couple and as comics?
Because a lot of times, you guys are genuinely happy.
Neither one of you guys is tortured.
And you seem better together.
You actually seem better together.
We all have that friend that when they're with their other, they're different.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
Isn't that sad?
It's fucking sad, dude.
tom segura
I think it's sad to watch.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I have a buddy that can't do anything right when he's with his girl.
She's always, what are you putting it there for?
What is that?
Why is this over here?
Sit down.
What time is it?
Are you ready?
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's like always, there's always a nag in there.
But you guys are like buddies.
unidentified
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
You know why, though?
I think some women, they make their spouse the enemy for some reason.
They're unhappy with something inside of them.
But with Tommy, I think...
I don't know.
How do you avoid that?
I'm in therapy.
I go to psychotherapy.
And I work out my shit.
And I do it professionally.
And also, because we're both comics, I think Tommy's way funnier than me, and I accept that.
And I like him.
You know what I mean?
I respect you as a comic, and I respect you as a person.
Yeah.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
So that's why you get along?
Because you realize he's the fucking man.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, dude, he's awesome, right?
joe rogan
You guys kiss.
christina pazsitzky
No, you kiss.
joe rogan
You kiss and I'll sing.
christina pazsitzky
What are you going to sing?
Make it romantic.
unidentified
Just you and I. Oh, that was so cute.
joe rogan
That was beautiful.
tom segura
You know what?
The thing that people ask me all the time, they're like, are you guys competitive?
And I'm like, what?
No?
No.
I guess because comics sort of inherit their competitive, but in a relationship, that's way different.
joe rogan
Some people, it's their whole thing.
The competition is their whole thing.
christina pazsitzky
But female comedians are considered novelty acts.
I think there's still enough sexism in comedy where people are like, You guys ready for a lady comic?
And I'm like the circus act in a normal lineup.
So my career, what I'm trying to say, is never going to conflict with Tommy's.
It's preposterous to think that we're competing for the same.
joe rogan
No one's career competes with anyone else.
christina pazsitzky
Right, and that too.
joe rogan
You have to realize that somewhere along the line, that when your friends do better, you do better.
Everybody together does better.
You all grow together.
But everybody gets fucking selfish and they don't want their friends.
I mean, I know a lot of comics that, I mean, we all know a lot of comics that don't like the other people around them to be funny.
tom segura
Oh, sure.
joe rogan
They want to hold everybody back because somehow or another they feel like it makes them not funny.
I remember I had a conversation with somebody and they were saying, why the fuck do you take Joey Diaz on the road with you, man?
christina pazsitzky
Oh, he's so funny.
joe rogan
He's so funny.
He's ridiculous.
I was like, because he's hilarious.
unidentified
Yeah, of course.
joe rogan
What kind of stupid question is that?
But to them, it was ridiculous.
What they did, and this was a headliner I was talking to, a national guy, and what he does is take a fucking terrible comedian on the road with him.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, boy.
joe rogan
And the terrible comedian would go on there and eat his own dick for 20 minutes, and then he'll go out and look like a goddamn hero.
He'll rescue it.
The bar has been lowered.
These people are looking to laugh.
So he has a couple inferior comedians on before him, and then he goes out there and he looks like a fucking superhero.
thinking these terrible thoughts.
This person's going to usurp my power.
People are going to be seeing them.
I'm going to be opening them up for him.
And they start thinking crazy, man.
And it's stupid.
It's a dumb thing to do.
It's a trap.
You can never be jealous.
You can only be inspired.
If you feel any negativity, just fucking push it aside.
Ignore it.
Reject it.
Refuse it.
And just say, man, how awesome is that guy?
I wish I was that funny.
I'm going to write more.
I want to go do this.
tom segura
I think that both Christina and I have both always been the type of person that likes having funny people around.
We genuinely enjoy funny people, and we never...
even when they're huge personalities, because neither one of us has huge, overbearing personalities to people.
So especially offstage, when I'm around, I feel like when I'm around Joey Diaz, like a fucking movie is playing.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tom segura
Like somebody just pressed play on a fucking funny movie.
How am I not going to, I'm going to watch him.
I mean, I've been at your shows, we're backstage, and I pull up a chair and I'm like, so have you ever been, like I ask him a question.
Have you ever been to Phoenix?
And he's like, Phoenix!
joe rogan
Let me tell you something about it.
We robbed this guy in Phoenix.
I robbed him with a cap gun.
tom segura
My nose was bleeding.
joe rogan
I was up for three days.
One of my nipples was gone.
tom segura
Not only is it not threatening, it's like the biggest joy of the night is to sit around.
Or you ask stupid Bert.
unidentified
Yeah.
tom segura
And he tells you a story.
He's like having a fucking TV on.
joe rogan
Having a show going on, constantly.
Yeah, that's how I feel about Joey, always.
I always feel like Joey's like a show that we bring with us.
He brings the party.
He brings the party.
That's why he goes up first, too.
I mean, he's a goddamn national headliner.
Joey's one of the best comics in the country.
And he goes on first.
And the reason why he goes on first is because he wants to.
He wants to go out there dancing and he brings a party.
And he likes it.
And he also likes the challenge of warming a room up.
It makes the material stronger.
Joey's really calculated about his comedy.
You would think that being this wild, crazy guy that he just kind of wings it.
But he also thinks about it a lot.
I believe that.
He has a lot of thought behind his comedy.
unidentified
I believe that.
joe rogan
And he thinks that it's good for your comedy to go up cold like that.
He likes to do it.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, for sure.
joe rogan
You know, that's how they used to do it in Boston.
I was just talking to a buddy about this.
They used to do a night.
They would do Don Gavin's show.
And Don Gavin was a national headliner and one of the biggest acts in Boston.
And he would go on stage first.
And it was his show.
And he would be the host of the show.
And so he would bring up...
We're going to do Thursday Night at the Ice House again this week.
So if you're around...
Come on down, bitches, because it's a party.
It's an awesome show.
It's really, really intimate.
Only 85 seats.
And it sold out last week.
It'll probably sell out this week, too.
Who else is doing it, Brian?
brian redban
I'm going to announce the whole lineup tomorrow, but John Reap is going to do it.
Your friend Yoshi's doing it.
And I got some other secrets.
christina pazsitzky
That was so much fun.
Last week was a blast.
joe rogan
So fun.
christina pazsitzky
So cool.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're the awesomest crowd.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, the best.
Yeah, just the best.
They're on board from the first minute.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're so cool.
So cool.
That's the greatest joy to me is that whenever I go to comedy clubs, people always say how nice my crowds are, that they're nice and generous.
unidentified
Absolutely.
joe rogan
I hear that all the time, everywhere.
unidentified
They are.
joe rogan
People are so nice.
They tip.
brian redban
They drink.
unidentified
They're awesome.
joe rogan
They know how to drink.
They fucking keep it down.
They're not amateurs.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
But say this show that we're going to do Thursday night, if we were going to do it in Boston, I would go on first.
It would be like the Joe Rogan show, and I'd go up and I'd bring all these different people up, and then at the end, you'd do like 15 minutes, 20 minutes, whatever it is, and close it out.
So that's what the guys would do.
They would do a little bit in the beginning, and then they would fuck around.
In between each act, they would fuck around.
brian redban
Do you want to do that Thursday?
joe rogan
No.
unidentified
No, it's a ridiculous way to do it.
christina pazsitzky
But does that take the steam away from being a headliner, then?
brian redban
I think it does, a little bit.
joe rogan
Well, I think it takes the steam away from a set, because I want to see someone...
When I see a guy like Stan Hope or David Taylor or something like that, I want to see a 45-minute set plus.
I want to see an hour or something like that.
Because when you see a 45-minute set or an hour set, then you see a real set...
You get to fully sink in the experience of them shifting subjects and building momentum and changing gears, and it's all this one thing.
It's like seeing Avatar in two chunks.
You know what I mean?
You wouldn't want to do that.
It's a great movie, but you'd want to watch the whole thing.
It'd be just as good.
You'd probably enjoy it still if somebody put an Adam Sandler movie on for 20 minutes in the middle of Avatar.
But it wouldn't be the same.
I'm not ever calling my act Avatar.
But I think anything you do where you're fully, wholly concentrated on that moment, I think it would make it better.
unidentified
Sure.
joe rogan
So I don't like doing it like that.
christina pazsitzky
And don't you find that's the key?
I mean, we always talk about this, how some comedians become so...
Well loved and so successful.
Like Larry the Cable Guy, I love shit and dick jokes.
I'm not above any of that.
But I think his fans and people that love him just want to hang out with that guy.
joe rogan
Yeah, he seems real friendly.
christina pazsitzky
Get it done.
unidentified
It's fun.
christina pazsitzky
You want to be around that guy for 45 minutes and be in his world.
It's not necessarily who's the best craftsman of the wording of the joke.
It's your essence.
tom segura
That's totally true.
christina pazsitzky
You as a human being.
joe rogan
Yeah, and I've heard people say that he's racist.
Is he?
Yeah, well, he has some jokes, some racial jokes, but what the fuck?
You know, this is the real issue.
The real issue is why we live in a world that everyone's so goddamn fucking sensitive.
You should be able to joke about everything and anything.
You know, especially these radical Muslim fucks.
These guys have really got everybody in a corner because you can't even draw Muhammad.
You draw Muhammad, they want to stab you.
Like, really, dude?
I'm going to draw your guy and you can't even draw him?
What if you draw him real good?
You know, it's like Leonardo da Vinci wants to draw Muhammad.
He can't?
You're going to shoot him?
Come on, bro.
That's ridiculous.
You guys are being ridiculous.
When you cut humor out of the equation, when your society is humorless, when there's things that are off subject, you cut out all lines of inquiry.
You cut out real observing.
And then you force everybody to sort of subscribe to a predetermined pattern of behavior that's politically correct.
Because unless you can tell jokes about shit, then I don't know.
You might tell a joke about something that's absolutely horrible and it's not funny at all, but in trying, you test the waters.
And sometimes there's some preposterous shit going on and if you say people can't joke about it and then one guy does joke about it and fucking knocks it out of the park and everybody's howling, guess what?
That guy that joked about it's got a point.
And you might not want to deal with that point because you're living in a fucking fantasy world where you want everybody to not talk about your particular subject.
You know, whatever the fuck it is.
Whatever it is.
Whatever taboo you got going on inside your head.
Whether it's religion or sexual or whatever.
Whether it's, you know, saying certain words or whether it's, you know, saying you don't believe in God.
Whatever the fuck it is.
If you say that someone can't draw Muhammad and someone can't make a South Park, they couldn't even make a cartoon where they pretended they were going to draw Muhammad.
I mean, what was the full extent of this?
brian redban
Muhammad was actually on South Park.
joe rogan
But he was...
In the early days, before this happened.
brian redban
Yeah.
And then the second one, he was a black bar.
joe rogan
But then they stopped him from putting Muhammad on again.
Right?
And they made him do it like Muhammad was a teddy bear.
brian redban
Oh, right.
Yeah, he was a weird-looking teddy bear.
Yeah.
Something like that.
I can't remember.
joe rogan
But it was some ridiculous shit where they were being threatened.
unidentified
Weren't they?
joe rogan
Like, you know those guys.
brian redban
Yeah, but I don't remember that.
That was a while ago.
joe rogan
They were being threatened.
And I know that one...
People have been killed for it.
And it was that one woman that had to change her identity because she tried to make a certain day draw Muhammad Day.
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, and she kind of went deep with it and thought she was being cute.
And they're like, bitch, we'll cut your fucking head off.
Yeah.
You know, you want to play cute?
My appeal to my radical Muslim friends, please.
The path that you're taking by cutting people's heads off for drawing your guy is not the good one.
You don't need to concentrate on such silly things.
This is a crazy way of doing it.
tom segura
Of course.
joe rogan
But the problem is, man, that part of the world has a lot of shit in its environment that has been there for 10,000 years.
And it's very difficult to change things.
The best way to change things is the way America changed things, by moving.
Everybody moved here a few hundred years ago from somewhere else, and then this was the next stage of change.
tom segura
Right.
joe rogan
But if you live in a place where there's not that much physical change over the hundreds and hundreds of years...
unidentified
Have you been to Afghanistan?
joe rogan
No, I haven't.
christina pazsitzky
It's the Middle Ages there.
I was there in July, and it's literally just like shitty brick walls and just like mud huts and then the woman in the burqa.
And if your husband really loves you, he builds a wall.
Around your backyard, so the wife doesn't have to wear a burka while she's doing chores in the backyard.
It's like, it's the year 1300 there.
joe rogan
Holy shit.
christina pazsitzky
Very, yeah.
joe rogan
I have a buddy that went over there and he said they catch men fucking boys all the time.
christina pazsitzky
That's right, yeah, that's what they say.
tom segura
What about, tell them the oil rig off of Iraq, Iran, the oil rig?
christina pazsitzky
Oh, yeah, man.
I did a show in between Iran and Iraq on an oil rig, an oil platform.
It was a mile long, half Iraqi soldiers and half U.S. Marines, and the Marines were teaching the Iraqis to guard their oil.
And so I was sleeping on this tanker, and it smelled of gasoline all night.
And you would see the...
brian redban
Not armpits?
christina pazsitzky
Well, they stink, too.
Yeah, boy, oh boy.
But you would see spy ships roll up.
Anyway, I got to tour the Iraqi barracks.
joe rogan
You see spy ships?
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, they try to...
unidentified
Iran would pull up their tanker.
What?
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, and they would have the word Iran on the side of the boat, but then they would black it out with black paint.
joe rogan
Like, we are not Iran!
christina pazsitzky
We are not Iran!
joe rogan
Come on, really?
unidentified
Yeah, I have pictures.
christina pazsitzky
I will show you the pictures.
joe rogan
So they pull up to this...
tom segura
This used to be Iran shit, and we sold it to somebody else.
unidentified
This oil rig.
christina pazsitzky
So they're spying on us, training the Iraqis, and I got to tour the Iraqi barracks.
And it's...
First of all, I mean, it's just...
It's completely...
Look, we're really great at being military.
The Americans have that shit down.
Like, the Marine Corps is...
We're fucking real.
And they have barracks.
unidentified
They're just wires loose, water bottles loose...
christina pazsitzky
They would take shits, they hang their ass over the oil platform, take a shit in the water, and then fish in the water they just shit in, and then eat the fish.
joe rogan
There's a lot of water.
I doubt that shit's going to have an impact.
christina pazsitzky
I don't know, man.
Come on.
brian redban
All the seasoning those guys eat, it probably tastes pretty good.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
But it's not bright to fish where you shit.
joe rogan
I really don't think they can shit that much to have an impact on the ocean.
unidentified
Shitting aside, they take some really big dumps just in.
tom segura
But sitting aside, what else?
joe rogan
Well, actually, when you think about it, how many guys are there?
christina pazsitzky
Well, here's another thing.
tom segura
How many guys were on the...
50 guys?
joe rogan
100 guys?
christina pazsitzky
No, more than that.
unidentified
More?
tom segura
500?
christina pazsitzky
Yes.
unidentified
Oh, that's a lot of shit.
That's a lot of shit.
joe rogan
That might have an impact after a few months.
tom segura
Especially, well, here's the thing, too, is, like, if you're...
If you shit, like, right now, and I'm just like...
christina pazsitzky
And then you cast a line.
joe rogan
You gotta cast it away from where you shit.
You gotta, like, keep a map.
Where'd you shit last night?
Oh, right here.
unidentified
Right here.
joe rogan
It's a spot.
Don't fish there.
christina pazsitzky
Wait, but can I tell you the grossest part?
Okay, so I went to their rent, and they had mattresses that were folded, dirty, dirty mattresses up against this wall.
And I was like, what are the mattresses for?
And the guy was like, well, it's a thing called Man Love Thursdays, because Thursday is, or Friday, I forget what it is.
And these days they put the mattresses down.
And then the guys, they fuck each other on the mattresses.
And I know, I mean, who knows if that's just like us being douchebags.
I don't know.
But he also said that he broke up fights where one guy...
joe rogan
Wait a minute, what?
Who knows if that's like us being douchebags?
christina pazsitzky
I'm saying like Americans being like, and then the Iraqis are a bunch of homos.
joe rogan
So they could be joking around about fucking each other, right?
christina pazsitzky
But then I had a commander tell me a story where he had an Iraqi soldier pound on his door at 2 in the morning...
And the guy had bite marks on his back, and he was bleeding from these bite marks.
And finally, the commander deduced that he thinks some guy was trying to fuck him, and he wasn't allowing, and the guy bit his back.
So, you know, the homosexuality, from my understanding, is that it's situational homosexuality, where, like, because they can't date women, and you have to just get married, that, you know, they choose men because of the situation they're in.
joe rogan
What the fuck?
Fuck!
christina pazsitzky
And it's not gay.
It's not considered gay.
What?
tom segura
It's just sex.
Come on, that's not gay.
christina pazsitzky
It's totally not gay.
joe rogan
So they don't consider themselves gay, they just consider themselves really into fucking.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, you're just...
joe rogan
Anything and anything.
christina pazsitzky
Just whatever, yeah, whatever happens.
joe rogan
Everything that comes along, they stick their dick in, including dudes who don't want it.
christina pazsitzky
Well, yeah, in places like Saudi, I've been there too.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's prevalent.
tom segura
Let's take a shit off the edge and then fish.
And then lay on the mattress and fuck each other.
christina pazsitzky
What a weird world.
And it is, and it's so foreign.
And as a Westerner, I try to be open-minded and wrap my head around their culture.
And there are certain ways they treat women that I'm just like...
Yo, I'm not cool.
joe rogan
What's really strange is that as far as we know, and there's a lot of debate about when the beginning of civilization was, but as far as we can tell, it was there.
As far as we can tell, it was in Iraq.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Sumer, Mesopotamia, yeah, that's where the first written language, first mathematics were attributed to these guys.
christina pazsitzky
Yes, I know that.
joe rogan
Any knowledge whatsoever of astronomy or astrology.
They had the constellations mapped out.
They had different astrological signs.
They had 13, I believe, instead of 12.
Is that correct?
I think there's something like that.
Anyway, I don't remember how many there are, but the point was that these people had this really amazingly advanced civilization 10,000 years ago.
And today, it's more advanced than it was then, but they still have a really suppressive, ancient-style culture.
And it's really kind of weird to see this combination of modern technology, extreme wealth in places like Dubai and the United Arab Emirates, and extreme wealth.
But also this like weird, you know, with the modern stuff and this weird ancient stuff.
You know, like the whole thing about, you know, just the laws of Islam, the women wearing perkas and all of that crazy.
I mean, when did that start?
christina pazsitzky
Well, it's a theocracy.
You have to understand that even in the Gulf countries that are more progressive, like, you know, the United Arab Emirates, where Dubai is, like, there's places you can drink a beer for expats, not the Muslims, because they don't drink.
But, I mean, you'll be in a McDonald's, and you'll hear a call to prayer, and the expectation is that you gotta...
brian redban
Put down your McRibs.
unidentified
Really?
christina pazsitzky
Stop, drop, and roll.
Yeah, like, you gotta get down.
joe rogan
Who calls to prayer?
christina pazsitzky
No, the mosques, you hear it five times a day.
The first time I heard it, I didn't even know what that sound was.
It's terrifying.
It's like, oh, and you're like, what the fuck is happening?
joe rogan
So you could think it's like the end of civilization.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, and it sounds like you just want to cover your ears and just cry, and that's their call to prayer, so you just don't know what the fuck's happening.
brian redban
It's like Red State.
joe rogan
A lot of people think that there's something to having some sort of an extreme discipline along those lines.
That it does keep people in line and facilitates family and it facilitates companionship.
It's possible.
It doesn't always, obviously, if they're fucking little kids in the ass.
christina pazsitzky
I don't know.
joe rogan
Biting people in the back.
It's not everybody across the board, but the idea that some intense form of study like Islam or like Buddhism or like Christianity or like anything where you really get involved in the practice of some intense discipline and some intense study.
tom segura
Especially if you have strict enforcement That's really the key.
That's the key right there, man.
When you have, like, you know, in Iran, where they have the religious police, in addition to...
christina pazsitzky
Oh, yeah.
tom segura
Or if you go to Saudi Arabia, they have that.
They have, like, religious police.
joe rogan
Yeah, we had somebody who was...
tom segura
Old Soviet Union.
joe rogan
Who wasn't going to get...
christina pazsitzky
Oh, they haven't.
joe rogan
...arrested.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, I almost...
In Ramadan, I was there during their holy month of Ramadan.
I was in the back of a van drinking a bottle of water, and the Marine I was with was like, what the...
We're on the freeway.
If someone sees you on the freeway drinking water when the sun is still up during Ramadan, they can report you to the religious police, and as a Westerner, they'll throw you in jail.
And that's in the hip city of Dubai.
And you get sent to jail for like two months, and it's like a $3,000 penalty.
And they don't feed you.
They don't feed you.
So your relatives have to come and feed you if you have the misfortune of getting put into jail.
unidentified
Oh my god.
christina pazsitzky
In the Middle East.
unidentified
So I don't know why.
christina pazsitzky
They don't feed you?
And I don't know why they're plugging Dubai as this like wild west, this like Vegas of the Middle East.
It's still Muslim, you guys.
Like it's not.
It enraged me to see Sex and the City 2 taking place in like Abu Dhabi.
Like are you kidding me?
Like this is not a place for you guys to go party.
joe rogan
For you to be an old slut.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Don't old slut it out.
joe rogan
There's a lot of women that got really confused thinking that old sluttiness was acceptable and not sad.
And not sad.
You know, that woman's not sad.
She's a fucking panther.
She's out there having a good time.
She's hot.
You go, girl.
And all these women with broken vaginas lined up to see this fucking crap.
christina pazsitzky
I know.
joe rogan
You get them all confused.
unidentified
Sloppy tits.
joe rogan
It's just like Clint Eastwood had people thinking they can keep an orangutan as a pet.
You can't fucking do that, man.
That thing will rip your arms off and stuff them up your nose.
christina pazsitzky
Is that the best?
joe rogan
Did you hear about that guy with the hippo?
christina pazsitzky
No!
joe rogan
You didn't hear about this guy?
tom segura
I saw something about it.
joe rogan
It's a guy who's famous on the internet for having a pet hippo that he rides.
He actually rides his hippo.
He found it when it was a cub, raised it its whole life.
Well, it finally fucking killed him.
unidentified
Alright!
Yeah, there you go.
joe rogan
This poor fucking silly cunt.
unidentified
Ha ha ha!
joe rogan
It's killed by the animal, shocker, that kills more people in Africa than any animal.
christina pazsitzky
The hippo does?
More than a tiger or something?
joe rogan
Oh yeah, dude.
christina pazsitzky
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, tigers are actually in Asia.
Angry animals.
But they bite people in fucking half, man.
christina pazsitzky
I didn't know that.
joe rogan
They're actually like a type, well, I think they're somehow another like cousins to a pig.
They used to think they were really closely related, but now they think there's some dispute in that.
tom segura
They're like dinosaurs, right?
joe rogan
They're old as fuck.
What they are is this giant fucking animal that is super aggressive and really mean and just bit the fuck out of this guy and they found his corpse mauled in the water.
But he thought it was cute that he used to ride this thing.
brian redban
Weird that you can't grow up with an animal from an early age and it would not fall in love with you, that it would still do this.
It's kind of weird still in some ways, I think.
joe rogan
People get aggressive with people and they hit people.
Brothers and sisters hit each other and they don't have enough strength to hurt each other.
But if your brother was a fucking gorilla, an 800-pound gorilla, and you were a two-month-old baby and your brother got mad at you and just fucking clubbed you in the head, he would kill you.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
The problem is, you know, when babies get mad at each other, well, they're both babies, and they really don't have much impact to their slaps.
This is a completely different thing, this hippo.
This hippo got mad like this.
tom segura
For a moment.
joe rogan
This guy's probably an annoying douchebag.
Why is he riding his hippo in the first place, right?
brian redban
Trying to ever fed him.
joe rogan
This guy's fucking crazy.
He's a crazy person.
This is not what you're supposed to do.
Everybody knows that you're not supposed to fucking even make contact with these things.
brian redban
Was this guy bald, by the way?
joe rogan
No, he's a big guy, too.
tom segura
What city was it in?
brian redban
I was going to say, maybe I was a marble.
unidentified
Oh, that's a good question.
joe rogan
I think it was in South Africa.
tom segura
Hungry, hungry hippo.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, why do people need exotic pets?
unidentified
Why?
christina pazsitzky
Why must you have...
tom segura
You guys saw the guy in Ohio, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
The crazy guy who had all those animals who killed himself.
Let all the animals free and then killed himself.
At least that guy had them in cages.
And that guy they knew was a fucking...
He was a loose cannon.
They said that he had threatened to do that before.
They had an issue with the cops.
unidentified
He's like, oh, let these fucking animals go.
joe rogan
Oh, boy.
He's a crazy asshole.
christina pazsitzky
What did he have?
What was in his...
joe rogan
What I was going to say, though, is that this hippopotamus might not even want to kill him.
He might have gotten mad.
He wanted to bite him like he would bite another hippopotamus.
Like, get off me, bitch!
Stop riding me!
I want to fucking rest!
But when you do that to a little flimsy-ass person, they break and they die.
There's a video that Brian turned me on to of lions trying to kill a hippo, and it's the craziest thing ever.
They can't kill it.
They're jumping on this thing, biting it.
It's kind of fucked up, and the hippo's just, like, getting mad.
Like, get off me, bitch.
But they keep biting him.
They can't kill it.
He's, like, armored.
And what they're doing is biting through his spine slowly.
That's how they're killing him.
They're choosing to pick a spot on his spine, and they're pulling chunks of it out.
And he's, like, barely noticing that they're there.
unidentified
That's not an animal you want to fuck with.
christina pazsitzky
But as human beings, we're actually quite vulnerable in the wild.
Our only protection is our brains, right?
We don't really have much going.
We don't have an exoskeleton.
joe rogan
I always say, think about a fucking house cat.
Think of a house cat.
If a house cat wants to kill you, could you imagine?
Could you imagine what that's like?
Have you ever been around a feral cat?
A wild cat?
christina pazsitzky
I have, yeah.
joe rogan
They're scary as fuck, dude.
They're scary.
They're really terrifying.
I've been around feral cats that I thought were going to attack me, and it is a dangerous moment.
Like, where you're like, this thing can do some fucking damage.
It can jump all the way up to your face, easily.
A cat can easily jump right up your face and bite your fucking face.
Imagine a wild cat, claws digging into your head, won't let go, biting your face and kicking with its back leg.
That's absolutely frightening.
And they're tiny.
tom segura
They're tiny.
joe rogan
You saw my little cat, my little spaz?
What does she weigh?
Does she weigh like three pounds or something?
tom segura
I have a...
joe rogan
But if she wanted to fuck me up, that would be terrifying.
christina pazsitzky
She'd kill you.
tom segura
In Boston.
unidentified
Scary!
tom segura
I lived in Boston for a summer one time, and I was staying with my friend on a first-floor apartment, and I slept on the couch, and the couch was right next to the first-floor windows.
They would open the window, and it had a screen, and there was a neighborhood, feral, crazy, maniac, fucking, like, emotionally unadjusted cat that would, when I'm chilling, just laying there, it would jump up onto the screen and go like...
joe rogan
Oh, God.
tom segura
Like that.
And I would jump up.
I would levitate.
Like jump up off the thing.
And it would just sit there and scream with its claws in and a crazy look in its eye.
I would have fucking near heart effects.
joe rogan
You know about that toxoplasma, that parasite that a lot of feral cats have?
christina pazsitzky
It's in our nails, yeah?
joe rogan
Well, it's in there.
No, it's a rat parasite.
It starts out in rats, and it hijacks a rat's sexual reward system and gets these rats attracted to the smell of cat piss.
So the rats go around the cats, the cats eat the rats, the cats get it, and then the cats give it to people.
Usually from feces, from stepping in their shit or dropping your food in their shit and you pick it up.
Yeah, and it affects the human brain.
It affects the way people behave.
It makes men more impulsive.
It's responsible for a disproportionate number of motorcycle accidents.
They check people that are crashing motorcycles.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
And they find out that a lot of them are infected with this toxoplasma shit.
And in Europe, it's really prevalent.
Anywhere there's a lot of wild cats, it's really prevalent.
Like Europe and France, 80% of the people are infected with toxoplasma.
christina pazsitzky
No kidding.
joe rogan
Yes, 80. In America, it's over 60 million.
It's really crazy.
But that cat might have had that.
It might have been just nuts.
tom segura
I can't even describe how terrifying it was.
joe rogan
I don't think they've even mapped out the behavior, the behavioral change that it has in cats.
Because I've only heard about the behavioral change in humans and rats, which is really interesting.
I've never heard anything.
There's a guy named Robert Sapolsky that's the leading scientist on all this shit, and he's got some amazing videos on it.
And you know, he goes into depth about how they really are just sort of wrapping their head around this, the extent of the infiltration of this parasite into human beings.
I mean, it's like, it might be like half the population of the Earth.
We're infecting.
It's really crazy, yeah.
Because in Brazil, it's 60%.
In France, it's 80%.
It's really high in a lot of different places in South America.
And like I said, over 60 million, that's the estimate.
People don't even know.
We always talk about it.
What if I had it?
I was around a cat when I was young.
I had a feral cat that I raised.
And Brian's been around cats his whole life.
Joey Diaz has like 11 cats.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Well, Joey has 11 cats, and a lot of them were wild.
He used to take wild cats in and feed wild cats outside.
tom segura
Wait, what could that do to you, though?
We don't know.
joe rogan
Fucks with your brain, man.
Yeah, you know, your immune system is supposed to keep most of it in check, you know, if you have a healthy immune system, but they don't know, really.
I mean, it affects people in different ways.
brian redban
Gives you huge dicks.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
Could you imagine?
Everybody's just racing and hanging around with cats.
Cats just gave you a huge ruthless dick.
Imagine if it wasn't Viagra that you needed.
It was just you've got to be around a lot of cat shit.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
Guys would be eating cat shit by litter box.
joe rogan
This is what happens, bro.
Here's the good news and here's the bad news.
The good news is it makes your dick bigger and stronger.
Okay, what's the bad news?
The bad news is you become a crazy person.
tom segura
Your brain is eating itself.
joe rogan
Your brain is infected with a cat parasite.
I heard a lot of people say this cat parasite is not that bad.
That's what people say.
If the positive was your dick got bigger and was hard at will.
If your dick was like a rhino horn that you could always call upon.
tom segura
That hippo story reminded me of that asshole with the bears.
joe rogan
Oh, Grizzly Man.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, I love that.
Isn't that the best comedy ever?
Tommy and I saw that in the theater and we laughed so hard.
tom segura
That kind of cemented our relationship.
unidentified
It did.
joe rogan
Did it really?
tom segura
Well, there was a moment.
brian redban
I loved it.
tom segura
We watched that documentary in the theater.
There was 40 or 50 people there.
And we were the assholes that were like, look how fucking dumb this guy.
Like the whole time.
And then there was a scene, well, I'll never forget, where they interviewed a pilot that would fly Timothy out there.
Yeah.
And the place is quiet, and we're sitting there watching, and they go, what did you think when you would drop him off and he told you he was going to be with bears for months?
And the guy goes, well, honestly, I thought he was retarded.
And we laughed so loud.
unidentified
And everybody in the theater was just like...
joe rogan
Where'd you guys see it?
christina pazsitzky
Like the Lemley.
joe rogan
I saw that in Hollywood and the whole theater was laughing.
tom segura
Really?
joe rogan
I saw it in a great theater.
Everybody thought it was funny.
I think I saw it with Eddie.
We were blazed, of course.
And every moment of the movie was hilarious.
It was like a goddamn comedy.
When he was playing with the shit...
unidentified
Oh look!
joe rogan
This came out of her butt!
This came out of her butt!
unidentified
We watched it with some stuck up people for sure.
tom segura
We were laughing so hard and that place felt like it was like...
joe rogan
Is Pasadena stuffy?
unidentified
I think the Lemley crowd generally is there.
joe rogan
I need to move to Pasadena.
Be close to the ice house.
Get myself a mansion out there.
christina pazsitzky
For sure.
tom segura
Shit, yeah.
christina pazsitzky
Adina's where it's at.
I like it.
It's what the San Fernando Valley intended to be.
I grew up in the valley.
joe rogan
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
But they wanted it to be like Pasadena.
joe rogan
Yeah, Pasadena's better.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, some hearts are good in the valley, but some are, you know...
joe rogan
Well, whenever we do the Ice House there, we're like, people are fucking really genuinely nice out here.
It doesn't feel like L.A., It feels like a different town.
brian redban
The homeless people are all old ladies, too.
There's no homeless guys.
They're all old ladies, and they make these forts, and they're so nicely folded, like blankets and cans are folded.
joe rogan
That's sad shit, dude.
It really makes me feel really bad when I see some woman, and I see her out there on her own.
I don't know why.
tom segura
Kills me, too.
joe rogan
I feel like some old guy.
Like, take care of yourself, stupid.
You know?
christina pazsitzky
Take care of yourself, stupid.
joe rogan
I see an old woman and I feel terrible.
tom segura
Don't you hate seeing old, like, I'm talking older people doing, like, having, like, jobs?
joe rogan
Looking at your garbage?
tom segura
No, no, like, when you see, like, clearly somebody in their 70s, like...
Just having any job, really.
brian redban
Sometimes they like that, though.
My mom retired and they went back to work at a fucking Amish restaurant gift shop just because she was bored out of her mind.
tom segura
Well, that's different.
brian redban
She's getting like $6 an hour.
tom segura
You can see it on someone's face.
You can see when they're like, I gotta do this to get by.
You're like, fuck.
joe rogan
Yeah, that sucks.
Well, you know, it sucks because you also imagine yourself doing that.
tom segura
Of course.
joe rogan
When you're tired and old and you really should be resting and enjoying your last days on this planet before you're fucking transitioning to the afterlife.
But now you got a fucking hat on.
You're working at Chuck E. Cheese.
You know, hey kids, what do you want?
You want a special?
You want pizza?
unidentified
Do you want to try the daily double dose of cheese and hoppers?
christina pazsitzky
But I felt bad for my parents' generation because they really got fucked in this recession.
A lot of people that are planning on retiring can't do that now.
They worked their whole goddamn life and now what?
joe rogan
Yeah, there's a guy who lives down the street from me that was trying to build a house.
He had this whole...
He had a plot picked out, a really nice spot with a beautiful view and everything, and he was putting all his money towards this, and the fucking stock market crashed.
All the bullshit went down.
The economy shit the bed.
tom segura
It's so crazy.
joe rogan
He lost his savings.
He lost everything.
He lost the whole pile.
He just has this lot, this beautiful lot that represents his dreams.
That will never take place.
And he's an older guy, man.
He's not going to be around that much longer.
tom segura
That really sucks.
christina pazsitzky
It just kills me, dude.
tom segura
There are people that retired at exactly the right moment.
unidentified
You know what I mean?
tom segura
There are people who got their money out when it was at its peak.
And then there were people who were like...
Literally, it's like a cliche buddy cop movie.
They're like, I'm retiring next year.
And you're like, that guy...
Just from sticking around like till May or whatever it was, like lost his net worth and completely changed his fucking life.
joe rogan
Isn't that crazy?
A lot of people planned on everything staying the same.
They're like, we just got it.
We're just about to escape here.
And boom, the floor falls out.
And not only are you out of a job, Not only do you no longer have a pension, but, oh, guess what?
You can't afford your house anymore.
Oh, whoa, you're almost homeless.
Oh, look at this.
Now you're sleeping at your friend's house.
Like, holy shit.
You have your kids and your wife and you're staying at someone else's house.
And you're in their basement all huddled up together.
And you're like, holy fuck, I can't find a job.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
Boom.
That's what's happening to a lot of people, man.
There's a lot of people out there that it just stopped.
Like, the machine stopped.
Everybody's like, what's going on?
Where are the jobs?
There are no jobs.
There's no jobs?
christina pazsitzky
Have you been to Ohio?
I mean, I do.
There's a few clubs in Ohio, like Toledo and Cleveland.
joe rogan
They keep hearing about Cleveland.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, and it's so sad, because you just see it.
There's nothing for people to do.
tom segura
Detroit, you really see it.
I know everyone talks about it, but I did Detroit twice this year, and like...
You know, the club isn't actually improper to it, but you fly in there.
joe rogan
Ann Arbor, that club?
tom segura
No, I did the Comedy Castle, which is a suburb of it.
Oh, okay.
It's Livonia or something.
But you drive through it, and the fucked up part is actually, I think, seeing the industry places that have closed.
That used to be this factory, and then...
All the windows are broken out.
Holy shit, that's a place that 2,000 people or whatever used to work at.
It's just gone.
joe rogan
You've ever seen those videos where they drive down whole huge, just mile after mile of abandoned houses?
It's like craziness.
It really does look like some Mad Max shit.
It looks like, what comes next?
What is this like?
This is a large scale.
It's goddamn Detroit.
Detroit, Rock City.
It's where Mustangs come from.
It's where Corvettes come from.
Sort of the Bowling Green Kentucky now.
But you know what I'm saying?
It's like, that's where, you know, cars, American cars were built.
christina pazsitzky
Dude, my dad worked at the Chrysler factory.
When we moved to Canada, it was his first job.
The Chrysler factory.
I don't know if it's there anymore.
joe rogan
It's probably in Mongolia.
christina pazsitzky
Can I tell you what?
I just heard this guy on NPR. He wrote a book about how this generation of kids, you know your mom always told you, be a doctor, be a lawyer, be an accountant, because those jobs, you always have a job.
Well, not now, because you can outsource that.
You want your taxes done cheap?
You can send them to a guy in India that knows tax law.
Same with everything else.
So this generation, they're going to have to get creative in terms of how they think, create their own jobs, create their own way of making money.
Those Those days are slowly dwindling down, those trade jobs.
joe rogan
Yeah, well also when you have the internet and you're sending files, it doesn't matter if you send a file to the accountant up the street or if you send a file to a guy on the other side of the world.
christina pazsitzky
Oh yeah.
joe rogan
If he's willing to do it cheaper, yeah.
It's a fucking very strange time.
tom segura
Just be a mechanic.
christina pazsitzky
A mechanic's good.
joe rogan
The real problem is right now we are slowly being forced to live the reality that the rest of the world has been operating under for the past few decades.
unidentified
decades.
joe rogan
That's really what's going on.
You know, and everybody was like, you know, America is not a third world country, you know?
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, when everything becomes the same, guess what?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
A lot of it's going to be like a third world country.
Because as we more interconnect with the rest of the world, you know, and as our facade of an economy slowly evaporates into nothingness, we really are forced into a situation where It looks eerily similar to what Russia faced.
It looks eerily similar.
tom segura
We're getting bettered at many things in different fields.
I saw a thing about highways and freeways and how for a long time we set the standard.
We were the first massive country to build.
You think about it.
We take it for granted that you can get in a car and be like, I want to drive to Montana.
Any other city you want to go to, Louisiana, you just take this way.
It's just...
It's like that, and we've had the best, and China is killing us in highways and freeway, in quality, in the number of them, and where you can go in them, killing us.
joe rogan
Poor Dane says they kill us in cell phone coverage.
He's like, you could be over there.
He said you could be over there in the middle of nowhere in the woods, and you've got five bars.
God damn it.
christina pazsitzky
Well, I haven't been to China, but I've been to South Korea.
And, dude, their society is way more advanced, I feel like.
joe rogan
Their internet is way more advanced.
Their phones are more advanced.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, cleaner?
They just have, I don't know, they're way ahead of us.
unidentified
They're crushing it.
joe rogan
They buy a lot of shit with their phones.
That's just starting to come to phones now.
There's a thing called Google Wallet.
And Google Wallet is an app that allows you to go up to, when you go to the thing where you scan your credit card, you can look at it and if it has this logo on it, this Google Wallet logo, then what you do is you take the application and pull it up on your Google phones.
Press it.
Put it right up to that, and it automatically pays for your bill.
So you don't even have to swipe a credit card.
You don't have to sign shit.
You just put in your code, press your phone right up to it, bang.
So you don't have to have a wallet with credit cards anymore, eventually.
Eventually, everything you'll be able to buy with your phone.
I don't know if Google Wallet exists.
Do you know, Brian, where the Google Wallet exists for the iPhone?
brian redban
I don't think so.
joe rogan
No?
brian redban
I think you'd do it over a website, though.
joe rogan
Oh, over a website?
brian redban
I don't know, no.
joe rogan
That's whack.
You want to do it.
brian redban
That's so crazy.
joe rogan
That's one knock that Google phones have over the iPhone, if they have that, because that's pretty dope once it comes into focus.
Once it becomes a really popular thing, that might make people sway from the iPhone to the Droid phones.
brian redban
Getting the new studio, one thing I thought was really interesting was that home speeds for internet are capped at around...
What's the highest lately?
Like 60?
I don't know.
Is it even that?
30 megabytes?
I only get like 25. 25. But when I have to get a business account because it's a business space that I rent...
The internet speeds are like up to like 100 gigabytes or even more maybe.
joe rogan
Really?
brian redban
Like the upload speeds are ridiculous too.
I think there were like 5 megabyte uploads instead of what I think I'm paying for 2 megabyte for the fastest for universe.
joe rogan
Wow.
brian redban
And it's like that's not even fair.
It's like I almost like if I am at home and I want to play games or be able to pay for something like this I wish I would have to make my house a business almost or something.
I think you could probably do that.
joe rogan
I don't know if you can make your house a business.
brian redban
You can't can you?
joe rogan
How's that possible?
brian redban
I mean, just list it as a business.
unidentified
Can you do that?
joe rogan
You would have to not live there, though.
I mean, I don't think it works that way.
I don't know if it's the same.
If you have a home office, I think that's still a home.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
I don't know, though.
I mean, your building might have been wired differently, too, though.
You have to take that into account.
That's a building.
That's a commercial building.
I mean, when they wired it, they might have wired it.
I don't know what the story is about what is keeping you from getting the highest internet.
unidentified
Right.
brian redban
That's weird though.
It's weird.
Because I live very close to it.
I checked it.
I wonder if it's something like they can't offer it to that many people.
The bandwidth isn't there.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a good point.
That could be.
Yeah, because people would be just downloading a million movies all day.
Has anybody ever gone to jail for stealing movies?
unidentified
I don't know.
I think they have.
brian redban
What's that one movie, the boring ass movie, where they're picking up bombs?
Whatever that movie was that won all those awards where it's like...
Oh, Hurt Locker.
Hurt Locker.
Those guys, I guess, went after tons of people.
Like 25,000 people or something ridiculous like that.
And they just dropped a lot of them the other day.
So they're still suing people that downloaded their movie illegally.
unidentified
Really?
brian redban
And it's weird that the production company actually is the one going after them.
joe rogan
So the production company, they somehow or another find out who has put these things online for download, and then they attack them?
brian redban
Yeah, they pretty much tell certain cable.
joe rogan
How do they tell?
Do they tell by who uploaded it?
Is that what it is?
brian redban
Yeah, I guess, you know, what they do is they can check the IPs, get it from the torrents and stuff like that, and then they would have to sue, like, you know, Charter or whoever.
tom segura
Well, they made an example out of some kid a couple of years ago.
It wasn't like a kid and his mom, and they were like, I mean, even though everybody had downloaded songs, they went after some kid, and they were like, you owe like $380,000 because of this amount per song.
unidentified
Yeah.
tom segura
But then they, you know, I think they settled with the amount of court, but it was...
They were doing that clearly just to get publicity for the case and make it seem like, you know, don't you dare dream of doing this.
joe rogan
It is kind of weird, man.
It's such a weird gray area whether or not something that you bought and you paid for, whether you could distribute it.
brian redban
For music, it's really interesting how these paid companies like Spotify and Rhapsody and stuff like that really, in my opinion, have stepped in.
I don't really download music much anymore because now I just pay $10 a month for Spotify and I fucking listen to it as much as I want to.
It's like a jukebox of every single song.
joe rogan
Don't you have to be online to get that?
brian redban
Not all the time.
I think you can save songs to your device.
I haven't really fucked around with it too much on that part, but I think you could also save songs.
If you pay $10 a day, it will download it inside the app, and then it needs to at least connect to make sure that you're a member still, and then it makes all the songs work.
joe rogan
That's annoying.
That's too complicated.
I'd rather get things on iTunes.
I get my shit on iTunes.
tom segura
How do you feel about your content, though?
joe rogan
You know what, man?
I think what I do is very different.
Because first of all, as a comedian, when you're releasing your information, or when you're releasing your material, rather, if you're putting out a CD or a DVD or something, you're essentially putting out an advertisement, and you're essentially putting out...
An example of your work that you're proud of, that you want people to see and enjoy.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
And yeah, you want to be compensated for it.
Yeah, you want to make money for it.
But the way I roll is that if I've ever downloaded anything illegally, I have always bought it if I liked it.
Always.
Really?
Yeah.
And I've bought some things that I didn't like just because I felt guilty.
Because I couldn't get it legally when I wanted to, so I had to get it some other way.
tom segura
There's no way most people do that, though.
joe rogan
Yeah, I have a problem.
I can't litter.
If I drop something on the ground, I have to get it.
I'll run after it if the fucking wind is blowing.
God damn it, I'll have to fucking chase after this little piece of paper.
It could be a gum wrapper.
tom segura
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
I don't like leaving behind a problem.
It bugs me.
So when I look at the idea of littering psychically, the idea of littering with your consciousness, that you do shitty little things and you take them for granted, and then you have these little things curled up in a fucking corner, those little crumpled up papers of ideas and consciousness that's littered your fucking head.
I don't like it.
So if a band is good, if somebody sends me to a YouTube link, And I go, wow, that's a fucking badass song.
And then there's a download link somewhere on some site where you're not supposed to go to, and I download it, and I like it.
I always buy it.
unidentified
That's great.
joe rogan
I always buy it.
I think you have to.
I think you're supposed to.
tom segura
I don't really download anything.
I mean, everything that I have, I've bought.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, I don't either.
I buy on iTunes.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, even then.
I mean, like, say if I found something illegal, I'll search to find it legally.
I'll buy it on Amazon, you know?
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
You guys touching each other?
christina pazsitzky
He touched his leg to my leg.
tom segura
It was accidental.
unidentified
I'm sorry.
joe rogan
What's up with that?
tom segura
I bumped it.
I'm sorry.
brian redban
Joe, have you heard about Gene Simmons' kid?
What happened?
tom segura
What?
brian redban
There was news I read this morning.
joe rogan
Want another beer?
christina pazsitzky
Can I have your beer?
joe rogan
Yeah, sure.
christina pazsitzky
Thanks.
brian redban
He's a comic book artist.
unidentified
Want a cold one?
joe rogan
You want a cold?
christina pazsitzky
Oh, okay.
unidentified
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, shit.
Thank you, Morgan.
brian redban
Do you have another one, Joe?
joe rogan
Nope.
christina pazsitzky
Ah, sucker.
brian redban
Who is this?
Gene Simmons' kid.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
brian redban
And he does comic books.
He does manga.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
brian redban
I think it's called Japanese-style anime.
His son?
Yeah, his son.
Real nice guy.
I actually met him once.
joe rogan
Yeah, we met him at the improv.
brian redban
But they outed him for just completely tracing a Japanese comic book artist.
And they have these lineups where they show face on top of face where they overlay it and it's exactly him.
christina pazsitzky
He's a young kid though.
How old is he?
Is he 19 or 20, isn't he?
brian redban
He's young.
I don't know if he's 19 or 20. I don't know the whole story.
I don't know if the comic's an old comic.
I used to draw comics just for fun.
I know that there has been many times where I liked how Spider-Man was posing or something like that.
So I would trace his pose.
joe rogan
That's how you learn how to draw.
Is he an art student?
Or is he trying to sell these things?
brian redban
Yeah, I think he sells them.
I think he's pretty successful.
tom segura
It's kind of hard to get away from that one.
I trace this shit.
unidentified
Yeah.
brian redban
So the Japanese artist on his Twitter today was confused at first, but then he said something like, I'm more surprised that Gene Simmons' kid does comics or something like that.
I can't remember.
So he knows about it.
He didn't seem that angry.
joe rogan
Wow.
How did he not seem angry at that?
brian redban
I don't know, you know.
Very polite Japanese people.
I have no idea.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
I always feel that stealing though is that like especially with jokes it's like well I can always write another one.
It sucks to have your shit.
tom segura
Yeah.
brian redban
I could see it happening more in comic books just for people that like.
christina pazsitzky
Why are you doing that?
brian redban
I guess he took a lot though.
The comic was called Bleach.
joe rogan
He was in a band for a little while.
brian redban
Was he?
joe rogan
Yeah.
I remember I watched the show.
And on the reality show, his band was playing somewhere and then his father flew a flyer out of a plane showing his son's band playing somewhere and making a big deal out of it.
Wow, this is crazy.
unidentified
Wow.
tom segura
So it's the kid that's on that show?
joe rogan
Yeah, side-by-side analysis is pretty fucking damning.
tom segura
Yeah, he's old enough to know.
joe rogan
I mean, it is.
It's not just tracing it.
I mean, it's like...
brian redban
Straight up taking almost...
joe rogan
Some of it is not tracing.
Some of it...
This one's not tracing, but it's very obvious where the idea came from.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
This is bad, man.
This is sad.
brian redban
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
I miss the Osbournes.
tom segura
It's all your own stuff, everybody.
joe rogan
It's weird.
brian redban
I love that show.
christina pazsitzky
I like that family a lot.
joe rogan
Some of them are a bit of a stretch.
There's a few of them here that are a bit of a stretch.
Because that is a style of comics.
tom segura
What did you look up?
How do you look it up?
brian redban
Just Google Gene Simmons Kid comic book.
tom segura
Okay.
brian redban
Trace.
I don't know.
joe rogan
Well, it definitely looks like there's no doubt about the idea that he was influenced.
Unquestionably he was influenced, but there's a bunch of these pictures that are a real stretch.
brian redban
Joe, did you see what that guy on your message board said?
That he, for a living, buys Google Ads all the time.
And we always joke about how I always put butthole at the end of Google searches.
So he was making it targeting California for the words butthole on the end of any kind of sentence.
And it just says something like, hey, red man, stop saying butthole or searching for butthole as a Google ad on the site.
unidentified
Oh, that's hilarious.
brian redban
Google took it down because he used the word butthole.
joe rogan
You can't say butthole for Google.
brian redban
For ads, I guess.
joe rogan
I bet you could sell missiles.
Yeah, this is crazy, man.
This is weird to watch.
He really did trace his stuff.
brian redban
Aww.
unidentified
Can I see?
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
How sad.
joe rogan
He can.
Yeah, I mean, they even show an overlay.
They show, like, here's the original image.
Here's his.
Look, he traced it.
unidentified
Aww.
brian redban
That really sucks.
joe rogan
It's fucking sad.
That's something that's really hard to recover from.
unidentified
As an artist, yeah.
joe rogan
It appears like he's just made a career doing this.
He's decided to try to...
To make a career doing it this way.
tom segura
All right, well, looks like you're going to have to borrow some more money from Dad for a while.
joe rogan
Well, I don't know, man.
You know, you want to give people the benefit of the doubt.
Who knows?
It seems pretty shitty, though.
tom segura
Yeah.
unidentified
It sucks.
joe rogan
It sucks the year, right?
christina pazsitzky
I know.
tom segura
Maybe he was a poor fucking guy.
Maybe he was just horsing around, you know?
joe rogan
He didn't intend it.
christina pazsitzky
Horseplay?
tom segura
Yeah, he was just doing horseplay.
joe rogan
Well, why would people think you're plagiarizing?
You'd have to ask them.
tom segura
Don't ask me that.
joe rogan
You'd have to ask them.
tom segura
I was just horsing around.
joe rogan
Have you heard the new fad that's a real problem in high schools?
Is that teens are using vodka-soaked tampons to get drunk?
christina pazsitzky
Oh, I've heard that with animas.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
This is real.
There's news stories about it.
Go ahead.
Look up the news story.
christina pazsitzky
I mean, not animas.
joe rogan
Girls are doing this in high school.
They're soaking tampons with vodka and sticking them in their pussy.
And they're inserting beer bongs in their assholes.
And they're getting drunk that way.
christina pazsitzky
You can totally die.
There's no liver to filter out...
joe rogan
People are nuts.
You gotta go for it.
It's a bright idea.
Apparently, this is what this vodka tampon thing does.
unidentified
Should we try it?
tom segura
It tracks you.
joe rogan
Look up teen...
Get the video.
Teen using vodka-soaked tampons to get drunk.
unidentified
If you're in school...
joe rogan
Teens using vodka-soaked tampons to get drunk.
tom segura
When you're listening, go for it, man.
Try the whole bottle.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, you can die.
unidentified
This is the...
joe rogan
The problem, yeah.
The alcohol is going right in your bloodstream.
It's like shooting IV blood.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, you can take things rectally.
Like, there's this girl.
christina pazsitzky
I can't.
joe rogan
She goes by the name of Neurosoup on YouTube.
And she has, like, a website called Neurosoup, I think.
And she's, like, kind of a famous person in the psychedelic community.
Because at one point in time, she was living with this guy that was this gigantic LSD dealer.
Like, the biggest LSD dealer in the world.
And she was a stripper.
There's a really interesting thing on Vice.com, a video where they interview her and they talk about the crazy times that she's been through.
One of her videos online is her taking DMT anally.
She takes DMT and sticks it in her asshole and trips for like an hour.
unidentified
Wow!
joe rogan
Yeah, wow indeed.
tom segura
That video's out there?
joe rogan
Yeah, she put the video out there.
christina pazsitzky
What's wrong with good old-fashioned and the old-fashioned?
joe rogan
I guess she wanted to go for a longer ride.
The old-fashioned way only lasts for about 15 minutes at the most.
christina pazsitzky
What about LSD? You could put that up your ass, too.
brian redban
I bet you could use it in my eyes.
joe rogan
Well, Jimi Hendrix, the legend is that Jimi Hendrix used to put it on his bandana, and as he was sweating, it would enter into his pores.
brian redban
That sounds so fake.
tom segura
I've heard of it being in socks and people sweating into their cysts like accidentally.
I don't know if that's true or not, but I'm sure it could happen.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm sure that makes sense.
brian redban
Raining out a dead show is always interesting.
joe rogan
Well, didn't that happen with...
Who was the creator of LSD? Oh, that doctor guy.
Wait, wait.
christina pazsitzky
No, the one that was like the guru, right?
tom segura
Leary?
joe rogan
No, no, no.
I forget the fucking guy's name, goddammit.
Dennis Leary?
Dennis Leary.
unidentified
No, it wasn't his fucking name.
And that was the catalyst for Albert Hoffman.
joe rogan
Albert Hoffman.
And then Albert Hoffman, when he invented it, I believe it happened by accident.
And if I'm not incorrect, I think he got it on his hands or something.
I forget how he was initially exposed to it.
I forget the story.
But I'm pretty sure the first time, it's like he got it on something and was like, what the fuck is going on?
christina pazsitzky
Joe, have you done acid before?
joe rogan
No, I've never done acid.
unidentified
I've only done mushrooms, salvia, DMT. Vodka tampons.
You know, some of the craziest experiences I've ever had is from eating pot.
joe rogan
Some of the most intense psychedelic experiences I've ever had is eating pot.
tom segura
I've told her.
I've told her to share some stories.
unidentified
Alright, just when you think you've heard it all when it comes to teens, and I have one.
So I'm paying attention to this.
This one might have you saying, wait, what?
christina pazsitzky
That's what teenagers are turning to.
unidentified
To get that quick buzz is pretty scary.
Elizabeth Irwin is here with a straight story.
Oh boy, Elizabeth.
I've got to tell you, Stephen and Catherine, two things I never thought would appear in the same sentence.
Tampons and vodka.
Do I have your attention?
Good.
christina pazsitzky
Because if you're a parent, you really need to hear this.
She's so uptight.
joe rogan
She went home immediately, stuffed the whole bottle of vodka up her asshole.
unidentified
She poured it into her ass.
tom segura
Sally, I'm doing it right now.
It's all up in my asshole.
unidentified
I'm drunk.
When we heard how kids are getting drunk these days, we thought, no way.
So we hit up the experts to find out if it's an urban legend or if it's legit.
There's been documented cases of people going to the hospital with alcohol poisoning just from utilizing it that way.
Officer Chris Thomas spends his days patrolling the halls of a valley high school.
He's heard firsthand how kids are getting tipsy.
What we're hearing about is teenagers utilizing tampons, soaking in vodka first before using them.
christina pazsitzky
You heard right.
unidentified
Teens taking tampons, soaking them in vodka.
joe rogan
Goddamn teens.
unidentified
There.
There.
christina pazsitzky
She can't even say vagina.
She says there.
That's how terrified we are of anything sexual in America.
It's unbelievable.
There.
Her no-no hole.
unidentified
They'll insert them into their rectums.
tom segura
You guys will do it too.
unidentified
Search it to where she comes out of.
joe rogan
So I found how acid was invented.
Yeah, it was an accident.
While resynthesizing LSD, Hoffman accidentally absorbed a small amount of it through his fingertips and serendipitously discovered the powerful effects.
he said this is his exact words affected by a remarkable a remarkable restlessness combined with a slight dizziness at home i laid down and sank into a not unpleasant intoxicated like condition characterized by an extremely stimulated imagination in a dreamlike state with eyes closed i found the Yes, it is.
I perceived an uninterrupted stream of fantastic pictures, extraordinary shapes with intense kaleidoscope play of colors.
After some two hours in this condition, faded away.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
So then he decided to take it on his own.
So this was by accident.
And then what he did is he took it on his own and tried to ride home on his bike.
Isn't that hilarious?
He called it Bicycle Day.
The guy gave himself 0.25 milligrams, which is 250 micrograms.
That's a fucking heavy dose.
unidentified
What is that?
christina pazsitzky
I don't know what that is.
joe rogan
The actual threshold dose is only 20 micrograms.
christina pazsitzky
Threshold dose, what does that mean?
joe rogan
That means you feel it.
You feel it at 20 micrograms.
So that's the intoxication threshold.
There's 20 micrograms.
He takes 250. Shazam, son!
I've never found it from anybody I trust.
I got some from this guy that was friends with Andy Dick, and he was out of his fucking mind, this guy, and he's like, really wanted me to take it.
Come on, man, take it.
I'm like, yep, nope, not gonna happen.
christina pazsitzky
Just get Nick with it.
joe rogan
Even getting liquid.
You've got to know who the hell you're getting it from, man.
You've got to know that people are taking it consistently.
You really should fucking have it tested.
Really, what it should be is fucking legal, and there should be LSD-like institutes where you go and, hey, do you want to really know who you are?
Sit down.
You know, I mean, it's all chemically simple or chemically similar to each other.
Like DMT, LSD, mushrooms, they're all really close.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, what is DMT exactly?
joe rogan
Dimethyltryptamine.
unidentified
Oh, here we go.
christina pazsitzky
Sorry, I don't know.
joe rogan
I'm out of the show.
The kids these days.
brian redban
You have Google on your phone.
christina pazsitzky
I did acid as a kid.
joe rogan
He said, here we go, because there's a video of me talking about it.
It's got like a billion hits.
And we've talked about it on the podcast a hundred times.
It's a psychedelic chemical, but it's one your own brain makes.
christina pazsitzky
Gotcha.
Oh, I'm sorry.
joe rogan
But all the really powerful ones, like LSD, you know, LSD and DMT and mushrooms, they're all real similar.
They're like chemical cousins, you know?
So it's interesting that those are the super potent ones, and they're really close to what your own brain makes, naturally.
christina pazsitzky
LSD? I don't know, man, because I've taken that a lot, and my brain does not function.
unidentified
Did you ever take it through your asshole?
christina pazsitzky
No, I took it at Lollapalooza when I was 14 years old and I was goth.
You were goth back then?
Yeah, I had retainers and a velvet dress.
joe rogan
Oh, shit.
christina pazsitzky
And Susie and the Banshees came on and I did at the same time and I threw my retainers across the field at Irvine Meadows.
brian redban
Wow.
christina pazsitzky
And I had to leave and that was the end of that.
tom segura
Did you ever read about how the CIA tested LSD on people?
unidentified
There's videos.
joe rogan
How about the town in France where they dosed the whole town and put it in their bread and people killed themselves?
Oh yeah, in the 1950s?
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, they doused the whole town.
They just experimented on a town in France.
christina pazsitzky
The Americans?
joe rogan
Yep, CIA. Freedom of Information Act, it's all available now.
There's a lot of creepy shit they do that really truly defines what the government is all about.
You know, a lot of people think the government is just us working in a different job.
And it's not.
It's the people that have a history of being ruthless.
A history of being ruthless, and that's how you get to that position in the first place.
But the experiments they did on people are just fucking horrendous.
christina pazsitzky
Now, what was the utility of LSD initially?
joe rogan
Well, they thought it was going to be a truth serum.
tom segura
Truth serum, yeah.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, I thought it was to make soldiers aggressive.
brian redban
That's why they wanted to use it.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
They give them steroids for that.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, okay.
joe rogan
Steroids and meth.
christina pazsitzky
That is...
joe rogan
Crystal meth is what the Japanese invented at for getting fucking planes to crash into boats.
So, you've got to be all methed up to do that.
tom segura
Were they all methed up, really, when they did that?
joe rogan
Yeah, that's where crystal methadrine was invented.
christina pazsitzky
And now you can just drive trucks on it.
joe rogan
Have you ever been around people that are on meth?
christina pazsitzky
In high school, I grew up here, around here actually, in your neighborhood.
And that was the drug of my generation, was meth, and then rave culture.
So everyone was dropping tons of E and taking meth.
Cocaine, not so much, and LSD. That's my generation.
joe rogan
Did you do meth?
tom segura
Jesus.
christina pazsitzky
Once I tried it, and I don't like how it...
Like, just do Coke.
Coke is so much classier.
joe rogan
What did Matthew do for you?
christina pazsitzky
You fucking stay up for days making collages and moving furniture.
It's utter chaos.
joe rogan
Wow.
Making collages?
brian redban
I need to do that.
joe rogan
Why do you go...
Before you make collages?
christina pazsitzky
Because that's how I felt, you know, because you're just so fired up.
You're like...
I'm going to do something!
But there's nothing...
At least for me, I couldn't be...
Just once, once.
joe rogan
I've never done Adderall.
unidentified
I don't like it.
joe rogan
But from what I understand, Adderall and meth, they're like cousins as well.
brian redban
I would say Adderall is more like cocaine.
Because even when I did Adderall, I felt like I was getting drips and cocaine symptoms.
joe rogan
Was that like psychological?
Like psychosomatic?
brian redban
Whatever it triggered was the same fucking neighborhood as cocaine.
joe rogan
Don't the drips come from actually snorting the cocaine?
How did you take your Adderall?
brian redban
It felt like it.
joe rogan
No, I snorted it.
unidentified
No, no, no, no, no.
brian redban
No, but I've snorted Adderall also.
joe rogan
You have snorted Adderall?
brian redban
Yeah, a lot of people do that.
unidentified
Really?
brian redban
Yeah, they crush it up and...
Wow.
tom segura
We know a guy who was...
I tell the story now on stage of the guy who used to drive us.
christina pazsitzky
Oh my god.
tom segura
To the airport.
This was our driver.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tom segura
Like a regular guy because we go to the airport so often we use this, you know, we found like a cheaper car service that's easier than dealing with like driving and parking.
joe rogan
Right.
tom segura
And like he was, you know, like a cheap ride basically.
unidentified
Right.
tom segura
Older guy, and all white hair, and was really professional.
And then after 10 rides, it's one of those things where you know when somebody's like, Mr. Rogan, and you finally go, you can call me Joe.
It was like that kind of thing where I was like, it's Tom.
He's like, it's Tom?
I'm like, yeah.
He's like, cool.
Hey, man.
Let me ask you something.
Everything changed as soon as I said, be professional with me.
And he goes, can I ask you something?
And I was like, yeah.
And he goes, do you smoke weed?
And I was like, yeah.
Yeah, I mean, I guess, yeah.
He's like, do you want to smoke some now?
And I was like, really?
christina pazsitzky
It's like five in the morning.
joe rogan
Yeah, and he's driving?
tom segura
Yeah, and I was like, yeah, all right.
And then...
joe rogan
You said, yeah, right?
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
Okay, driver.
tom segura
Yeah, that's exactly what was in my head.
joe rogan
I'm so comfortable with you in my life.
tom segura
And then he goes, he starts smoking, and then he goes, I can't drive unless I'm fucked up.
And that's a quote.
Oh, my God.
joe rogan
This is like a scene in a movie.
This is like a scene in a Seth Rogen movie.
I swear to God.
This is a Judd Apatow movie.
unidentified
It is, man.
tom segura
I swear to God.
christina pazsitzky
And he's old as shit, too.
He's like 80, isn't he?
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Oh, fuck.
tom segura
He's like 70s.
And then he goes...
And then he's like...
This particular...
It is early.
He drives fast.
He's like one of these...
unidentified
I've been driving 50 years in LA. We've got to take this street and that street.
tom segura
And I was like...
I was basically like, keep it together, man.
And he was like, I've been up since three.
And I start asking him, I'm like, have you done other drugs?
He's like, ah, buddy, buddy.
Like, I've done it all.
And I was like, really?
He's like, coke, heroin.
He's like, there's nothing like smoking rocks.
Swear to God.
And I was like...
joe rogan
He was like 70?
unidentified
Yeah, and he is flying through El Barrio, through the old neighborhood.
tom segura
And so, this is an El Salvadorian neighborhood.
And every, like, we're going through lights, and he's like, look at that little brown one right there.
I love that little brown one.
He was married to a Peruvian, and then he had, like, an El Salvadorian girlfriend.
He's like, I love these little brown ones.
joe rogan
He had one on the side?
tom segura
Yeah, well, and he had, oh, he has, like, five girlfriends.
And they're all, like, 20. And he's 70?
joe rogan
And they were all, like, 20?
christina pazsitzky
Yes.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
But wait.
christina pazsitzky
But now, wouldn't he be like, we drive through the ghetto, and he'd be like, that's where I used to buy my crack there.
He would point out where.
unidentified
This neighborhood's got the good stuff.
tom segura
I swear to God.
So, we're driving around, and I go, oh, I go, well, can I ask you something, now that we're friends, I guess?
He's like, yeah, shoot.
I was like, what's it like to smoke crack?
And he goes, oh, man.
He's like, what I like to do when I smoke crack is I'll just sit in my apartment, Wait, wait, stop.
joe rogan
Stop.
Don't say anything.
unidentified
Hold on.
joe rogan
Did he say porn?
He watches porn.
tom segura
No.
joe rogan
No?
unidentified
Okay, go ahead.
joe rogan
I'm sorry.
tom segura
He goes, I like to look through the people, and I look around at what the fuck's happening.
I see all this shit.
I think about what's going to happen next.
I see people walking by, and I just kind of fucking freak out, you know?
unidentified
I'm like...
tom segura
And I was like, that sounds terrible, man.
And he was like, it's part of the rush.
That's the rush, you know?
unidentified
What the fuck is going to happen next?
You look through the people to see if the people are going to come get you.
That's his rush.
joe rogan
I had to stop you because everybody says, everybody that I've ever talked to that smokes crack says they watch porn.
unidentified
Oh!
No, well, Henry did say, I invited this girl over and we fuck like animals.
christina pazsitzky
Like, he would have...
unidentified
Yeah, he did say that.
christina pazsitzky
Did I say his name?
joe rogan
He would have sex.
christina pazsitzky
I'm sorry.
joe rogan
Sorry, I didn't say his last name.
christina pazsitzky
No, I don't know his last name.
joe rogan
Henry the ape.
tom segura
So, the best is, and this sounds like, I swear this is exactly how it goes, I go, so do you still do that shit?
And he goes, nah, man, nah, nah, nah.
unidentified
He goes, well...
tom segura
You know, every once in a while, but you know what they say.
If you do something every once in a while, it's not that bad for you.
And I go, I think they mean that about, like, pizza.
Like chocolate, not crack.
And he's like, ah, it's no big deal, buddy.
joe rogan
I swear to God.
Every once in a while.
Well, do you remember when the mayor of Washington, D.C. got caught smoking crack?
tom segura
Mary and Mary.
joe rogan
Yeah, with an FBI agent in a fucking hotel room or an informant.
tom segura
She was being a prostitute.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You remember that shit?
He was smoking crack.
tom segura
And running the nation's capital.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And then, when they asked people about it, the greatest thing was, after he got caught, this guy, I remember this guy on TV, they say, what do you think about the mayor getting caught smoking crack?
unidentified
He goes, man, everybody smoke a little crack right now and then.
joe rogan
Every now and then.
He said, everybody smoke a little crack every now and then.
This guy was on TV. He's like, come on, man.
Stop playing.
tom segura
You're being ridiculous.
joe rogan
Why you stop playing?
christina pazsitzky
Who doesn't?
unidentified
Who doesn't smoke crack?
joe rogan
Everybody smoke some crack a little now and then.
I was on Opie and Anthony and he was in the hallway.
christina pazsitzky
No.
joe rogan
Yeah, we were in the Sirius Studios, you know, so there's a big window.
You could see who's walking down the hallway.
And Marion Barry was walking down the hallway.
So one of the interns from the Opie and Anthony show, or maybe was it Eric?
Who was it, E-Rock?
brian redban
I think it was E-Rock, yeah.
joe rogan
He went out and grabbed him.
Grabbed Marion Barry and brought him into one of the most hostile radio shows in the history of the fucking human race.
These guys are the best.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
So he sits Mary of Barry in there and we just start asking him questions about getting caught with crack.
unidentified
And one of the things he said was like, nobody knows what was in that pipe.
brian redban
I'm like, what?
tom segura
That's him saying I wasn't doing it?
joe rogan
Crack pipe, and I'm like, there was a video where you were smoking crack.
Nobody knows what was in that pipe.
Like, wow!
tom segura
Wow, still denying it.
joe rogan
Political, how political.
tom segura
Yeah, very.
joe rogan
He's still got a career.
He's still out there making it happen.
christina pazsitzky
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, he's out there.
tom segura
He was running for something.
joe rogan
He became mayor again.
tom segura
Yeah, and he also...
unidentified
Really?
tom segura
He did become mayor again, but he also, he ran for something during the last elections.
I forget what it was.
Something maybe...
joe rogan
Well, you know what, man?
A lot of what being a fucking mayor is about is not what you do with your freak time.
It's about what you do with the rest of your time.
unidentified
They felt like he was actually representing them.
joe rogan
So he was out there just keeping it real.
unidentified
What did he get on these motherfuckers, man?
christina pazsitzky
I think it's intense.
unidentified
What?
I just want to taste that child's bottle.
joe rogan
I'm about to smoke a little crack even now and then.
I'll never forget that guy.
He was annoying.
Man, come on with this.
What is this nonsense?
christina pazsitzky
Isn't Ted Haggard back doing some religious stuff?
joe rogan
Yeah, not only is he back, but he's brilliant in the way he approaches it that everyone in his whole thing, oh, we have drug dealers and prostitutes and everybody looking to be saved.
You know, it's like we've all lost our way, but God is still there and I'm still going to lead you to God.
christina pazsitzky
Okay, but he's not gay, right?
Oh, he's gay as fuck.
joe rogan
He's still married, but he's gay as fuck.
christina pazsitzky
Of course he's gay, yeah.
joe rogan
Of course.
He's just fighting it.
That shit you just watch.
tom segura
Don't you watch that documentary and you see him with his wife and they're driving and they're just trying to get an apartment.
As he's talking, you're like, man, you would be so much happier if you would just get up and be like, I'm totally gay.
I'll see you later.
Just go be happy, man.
You don't have to be that miserable.
joe rogan
There's that, but there's also the intoxication of being a leader.
tom segura
Yeah, he loves it.
He's too addicted to that.
joe rogan
That's what it is.
A lot of the behavior is not genuine.
A lot of what his behavior is, is he's behaving the way he thinks people are going to accept.
The way he thinks people are going to find admirable.
It's like his real behavior.
He's not being honest with himself.
And if he's not being honest with himself, how the fuck could he be honest with other people?
He's gaining control in all these other people's lives and fighting off the lack of control he has on his own.
He needs to be a leader of a church.
He needs to be the man speaking.
Meanwhile, he's like crazy.
christina pazsitzky
He's a hypocritical piece of shit and he's homophobic.
Meanwhile, he's...
joe rogan
Smoking meth and getting gay hookers.
christina pazsitzky
Right!
That's the worst kind, the hypocritical ones.
All the congressmen.
tom segura
All the righteous men.
christina pazsitzky
Absolutely.
tom segura
All the guys that tell you how to live.
unidentified
Absolutely.
tom segura
And criticize you how you live.
joe rogan
Why would you care?
Of course.
Look, I might not want to live on Santa Monica Boulevard while the fucking gay parade is going on.
christina pazsitzky
Nobody in L.A. does.
joe rogan
I don't want it to be so that I can't...
Driving in my driveway without tripping over dudes fucking each other on my lawn.
I don't want it to be that bad.
brian redban
Can you imagine tripping over boners?
That'd be so weird.
joe rogan
Everywhere you go, they'd cop out of the ground.
christina pazsitzky
Have you lived in San Francisco?
I did.
You pretty much do.
I live in that Rick Santorum.
That piece of human shit, too.
joe rogan
Who is that?
christina pazsitzky
He's running for the Republican candidate.
Presidential nomination, yeah.
He's a huge homophobic piece.
joe rogan
Oh, is he?
He's probably gay.
tom segura
Of course.
He also wants to make...
He wants to take away abortion.
He's really anti-gay.
Not just abortion.
He wants to take away birth control.
christina pazsitzky
Birth control.
unidentified
Whoa.
tom segura
He doesn't want to make...
Because he said that's not what it's for.
If you're using birth control, like, you're not...
joe rogan
Who the fuck are you?
tom segura
Well, he's...
joe rogan
Who the fuck are you, stupid?
Well, you know, it's people with their priorities that are so out of whack.
Like, why would you even be interested in that?
unidentified
He's a piece of shit.
joe rogan
Why would that be what you want to control?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
christina pazsitzky
Why do you give a shit?
joe rogan
Why do you care?
You want to take away birth control, you crazy asshole?
You want to make it easier for people to get pregnant accidentally?
unidentified
Exactly.
tom segura
Because that's God's will.
joe rogan
Morons, man.
christina pazsitzky
But why does he even care about what the gays are doing?
joe rogan
Because he wants some gay dick.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, exactly.
joe rogan
Fighting off the gay.
Tooth and nail, right?
unidentified
I don't even think about it.
tom segura
He's a real motherfucker.
joe rogan
All day.
unidentified
All day, all night.
joe rogan
Just clawing off that gay, trying to push it back.
brian redban
Sitting on dicks.
joe rogan
It's a sad thing when you see these poor fucking people suppressing people.
What do you think about this Occupy Wall Street shit?
I haven't talked to you about this.
What's your take on all this?
tom segura
I think it's great that a group of people want to feel this way about there's a lot of inequality.
I think it's great collectively.
The problem, the real flaw in Occupy Wall Street and these things is that there's not a clear set of Like, they're trying to achieve it almost like this, you know, like, let's just do this.
Collectively, as a society, we're making a statement about being the 99% and you guys the 1% has and we're the have-nots.
But I think it would have been more effective if they had had, like, a clear list of, like, this is what we want to accomplish.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
tom segura
It's more, I feel like, having watched it from outside, I'm not an expert on it by any means, but it just feels like it's more of a statement.
You go, oh yeah, it makes people aware, but there isn't really like, you know...
christina pazsitzky
A course of action?
tom segura
Not really.
What do we do?
joe rogan
Well, I think everybody's trying to figure that out, for sure.
tom segura
I guess so.
I think, you know, it's interesting, and I think the message really is this.
I feel like what I get from it is if Is if you really could get a lot, and I mean a ton of people, behind a certain idea, you can affect change.
We're not going to see, I don't think we're seeing a lot of change from the entire Occupy movement, but the idea, it kind of lays out for you that like...
They could take over a park or a square or a street and disrupt that day's normal function.
And if you were to magnify that, if you were to multiply the number of people there, and you really had people saying, we are not going to stand for this, it leads me to believe that you could affect change.
You know what I mean?
unidentified
Sure.
christina pazsitzky
Look at the 60s.
I mean, there was a whole culture...
joe rogan
Well, you know, what's really interesting is that this has only been around for, what, 90 days or something like that?
tom segura
Something like that, yeah.
joe rogan
And, you know, they did a recent poll.
More than half of America supports the Occupy Wall Street movement.
unidentified
Right.
tom segura
They're not going to participate, though.
joe rogan
Yeah, but during the Vietnam War, it took five years to achieve those same numbers.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
It took a long time of protesting before people really thought that the war was a bad idea.
You know, people in the 1950s had convinced everybody that communism was going to be a real problem, and, you know, we were looking for communists in our own society, and They were arresting people during the McCarthy era and stuff like that.
And I think during the 60s, people were a tad naive to how really fucked up and creepy the government could be.
We had just gone a couple of decades from World War II ending.
So I think a lot of people thought that the government was just and our army was strong and we fought off the Nazis and we fought off the Japs and we're fucking America and we're not cunts.
And then this whole...
christina pazsitzky
We're not cunts.
I like that motto.
joe rogan
The Gulf of Tonkin incident happened, and we were brought into a war.
There was no fucking reason to be in Vietnam for any American idea, for anything that any people here that would have supported.
They lied to us.
They lied to people.
They claimed we were attacked when we weren't.
They made up bullshit.
So I think the people today, we're aware of all these things in much larger numbers.
To this day, I bet a lot of people don't realize that the impetus for us getting into the Vietnam War was a hoax.
I bet a lot of people aren't aware to this day of Operation Northwoods or all the plans.
There was plans to blame if space program things went wrong.
There was plans to blame it on the Cubans and attack Cuba.
There was a bunch of different plans to blame things on Cubans and attack Cubans.
Yeah, they were trying really hard to figure out a way to go to war with Cuba to the point where they were going to fake attacks on American civilians.
They were going to arm Cuban friendlies to lob mortars at Guantanamo Bay and attack Guantanamo Bay.
I mean, it's some crazy shit.
It really is crazy.
Which, by the way, Guantanamo Bay, that's pretty fucking crazy, too, when you think of these people that are enemies.
One of them has a giant military base on your fucking country.
tom segura
That is nuts.
I've been there.
brian redban
Have you really?
joe rogan
What the hell is that like, dude?
tom segura
Well, the first thing that strikes you, really, is that it's so beautiful.
unidentified
Really?
tom segura
That's kind of the thing that stands out to you.
You imagine, like, I'm going to a military base that It also has one of the world's most notorious prison camps, and it's all in underdeveloped Caribbean waters.
christina pazsitzky
Don't they have crazy rats or something?
tom segura
Well, they do.
The banana rat will fucking blow your mind.
Banana rat?
You've got to look it up.
christina pazsitzky
It's gross.
tom segura
They're all over the island.
brian redban
Banana rat?
tom segura
Look it up.
They're all over the island, and you shit when you first see them.
unidentified
Really?
tom segura
Yeah, they have guys.
unidentified
Holy shit!
joe rogan
Oh my god!
unidentified
They're all over the place.
christina pazsitzky
And that's the proper reaction to that.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
Look at the size of this fucking thing.
christina pazsitzky
Didn't she say that Castro could see?
tom segura
Oh, there's some really cool stuff.
Yes.
brian redban
They're actually kind of cute for a rat.
I'd rather take a banana rat than a regular rat.
tom segura
Here's how bad the problem is.
unidentified
Fucking pig, dude.
tom segura
There's guys on base.
That are not, like, they're not even military guys.
They got hired, they give them a.22, and their job is, at night, you just drive around, you shine a light, and you just shoot them.
brian redban
Oh, yeah, I've seen this.
I've seen this.
I saw that.
joe rogan
Are they, like, it's not the same as a nutria, is it?
tom segura
They're not exactly the same, no.
Look at this picture.
joe rogan
Tell me when you shoot that.
tom segura
You'd shoot it, man.
brian redban
Oh, my God, that's weird.
joe rogan
When you shoot that thing, you would shoot it.
brian redban
It's like those weird things on Half-Life.
joe rogan
That thing wants to eat your babies, bro.
Tell you that right now.
That thing wants to eat a baby.
That fucking rat, if you left it alone with a baby, it would slowly eat its feet.
tom segura
Fuck yeah, it would.
joe rogan
It would eat your baby's feet.
This thing's a creepy-ass rat.
tom segura
You see the coastline, and you see the water, and you see...
It's basically how much of the Caribbean is underdeveloped.
You basically see what the island looked like 500 years ago.
joe rogan
Brian, look at this picture.
You get a better picture of this one.
This is a big-ass fucking animal.
Look at that.
tom segura
Yeah.
You know that they got me one night and they made me scream.
A high-pitched scream.
You know Dan Smith, the comedian Dan Smith?
joe rogan
Yeah.
tom segura
I was there with him and a couple other guys, Mal Hall and what's his name?
Patrick DeGear.
We were all there.
And we get out of this van and they had talked about...
We pull up in the van and they're like, there's a banana rat right there.
And the lights of the van are on.
So we get out of the van and we all walk kind of close.
They told us they eat vegetables or the shrub.
They're not predatory.
But it's still a gross, massive thing.
So I sneak up and I'm still six feet from it.
And right as I squat down to look and squint my eyes, Dan runs his fingers up my neck like this and goes like, there it is.
And I go, I scream and I'm terrified of this fucking thing.
It is the grossest looking thing.
And it's massive.
It's like a fucking dog, man.
It's a rat the size of a dog.
You jump.
I mean, they're gross.
Terrifying and gross.
unidentified
Yeah.
brian redban
Joe, stop masturbating when Tom's talking.
joe rogan
I have to.
I have to relieve myself.
christina pazsitzky
What was that?
I was on some military base.
joe rogan
The fears.
The fears made me...
christina pazsitzky
Of Ventura County.
And they had like...
unidentified
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
What did they have?
Feral raccoons?
You couldn't feed them?
They were just like everywhere.
tom segura
Really?
christina pazsitzky
I don't know.
Because you know, there's a military base there.
tom segura
You thought raccoons were friendly.
christina pazsitzky
I did.
I didn't know that they were dangerous.
unidentified
Jesus.
joe rogan
You thought what was friendly?
christina pazsitzky
Raccoons.
I never grown up with raccoons.
joe rogan
I live in LA. I had a huge problem with a raccoon when I lived in New York.
I lived in New Rochelle.
christina pazsitzky
Where's that?
joe rogan
New Rochelle is right outside the Bronx.
It's like a suburb.
When I moved to New York, I couldn't afford to live in the city.
When you live in the city, it's much more expensive.
So I lived in the suburbs and I drove...
And I needed a car anyway because I drove to gigs and I had to have a place where I could park my car because there's no way I could afford to live in an apartment in New York and have a parking spot.
You have to buy a parking spot somewhere and it's fucking brutal.
It's really expensive.
So I had to pull down this driveway and I would stop my car right in front of the garbage cans.
And when I would come home at night, it was fucking terrifying because these raccoons were big.
They were really big and they were really well fed because they were just fucking people's garbage cans up left and right.
Because, you know, you're dealing with house after house after house and garbage can after garbage can after garbage can.
So they're just eating constantly.
And they know exactly where the food is.
So they pull the tops off that bitch, throw that motherfucker on the ground.
I mean, they pull them to the ground.
They're aggressive, yeah.
And I get out of my car, and this motherfucker's looking at me like, fucking baffles up and shit.
And I'm thinking, if this thing charges me, I'm fucked.
I'm dead.
So I got a blowgun.
And, you know, like with darts, you know, a blowgun.
christina pazsitzky
I don't know.
Oh, oh, okay.
brian redban
Where'd you get that at?
Like tranquilizer.
joe rogan
I got it at a gun show.
brian redban
That's weird.
joe rogan
I went to a gun show.
That was the only thing you'd get if you don't have a license for a gun.
unidentified
How fun.
joe rogan
So I got a blowgun.
brian redban
Did you ever say you got a chest king?
joe rogan
I waited, and these motherfuckers must have known I had a blowgun.
I swear to God, he never came back.
unidentified
Really?
christina pazsitzky
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, that raccoon never came back.
It's almost like he sensed something predatory.
He sensed I was laying a trap for his ass.
Or he just found some fat people down the hall and had some awesome garbage.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
joe rogan
We got their garbage every night.
It's Pizza Cross.
Fuck yeah, we got the spot.
I never saw that raccoon again, but he was fucking huge, man.
tom segura
I know people in Florida that would go hunting with semi-automatic machine guns to hunt raccoons.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
tom segura
Flashlights and then with like AR-15s.
christina pazsitzky
Does that really count?
joe rogan
Florida is so crazy.
christina pazsitzky
It is the craziest place.
joe rogan
Florida is not the South.
tom segura
No, it's not.
joe rogan
It's not the South and it's not the North.
It's the southernmost part of the United States, but it's not considered the South.
Isn't that amazing?
The South doesn't even want to have anything to do with Florida.
The only time the South wants anything to do with Florida is when you go, well, Laren Skinner came from Florida.
Oh, you got me.
You got me.
You got me.
christina pazsitzky
Florida is like a hybrid.
joe rogan
It is like a strip mall of a state.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's a dirty strip mall of a state.
Even the best parts of Florida.
Whenever I'm in Miami, I love the people down there.
They're fun.
I love going down there and do gigs.
But I always put myself in a position.
I say, what if I had to move to Florida?
What would I do?
I'd be like, fuck!
I just think about my kids growing up in Florida and being raped.
It's like a hopeless city.
My parents live there, bro.
I know it's nice.
My parents live there.
My parents live in a real nice place.
But there's something wrong with that state.
It's not a coincidence that so many fucking serial killers and psychos come from that spot.
tom segura
And that's also where you go if you're like psycho and you're like, where can I get to fuck some shit off?
christina pazsitzky
Where can I ditch your body?
brian redban
Where does it not snow?
joe rogan
In my mind, I knew a lot of shady people when I was a kid, and everyone eventually went to Florida.
They all went down to Florida.
They moved to Florida.
My fucking sister moved down to Florida.
Her shady husband moved down to Florida.
My fucking parents moved down to Florida.
They're attracted to it.
christina pazsitzky
The weather's phenomenal.
joe rogan
Until the sky becomes a fucking brick wall of rain.
Have you ever had that happen?
You have to stop your car.
You have to stop the car on the highway because you can't drive.
I don't think people understand what kind of rain we're talking about.
unidentified
It's insane!
joe rogan
Eddie Bravo had a seminar in Miami.
We drove from Fort Lauderdale down to Miami.
It was like 15-20 minutes?
Not even, right?
We're on the highway.
We can't go anywhere!
You literally can't drive and it feels like your car is getting fucked up.
christina pazsitzky
It's like hail.
joe rogan
It's whooshing down.
It's like a year's worth of rain all in one blast.
It's incredible.
The whole highway stopped dead.
tom segura
Hobbits all the time.
christina pazsitzky
You can't even see in front of you.
You can't even drive.
joe rogan
People don't know about that shit.
tom segura
That type of rain, too, is like, you think, oh, that must be a tropical storm or a hurricane, which I've driven both of those and they're horrifying and crazy and you can't believe that.
joe rogan
No, that's just rain.
tom segura
That's just an afternoon shower.
unidentified
That's just hard rain.
joe rogan
That ain't shit.
The hurricane is that times a million plus flying trees.
christina pazsitzky
I've not experienced a hurricane yet.
joe rogan
I was at a hurricane in Boston.
I don't remember what year, but by the time it got up to us, everybody was just scared and huddled in.
We lived in Newton.
We were pretty far inland.
The real people that had to worry were the people that were on the shore.
brian redban
How wicked was the hurricane?
joe rogan
It was wicked pisser.
I came in and fucked everybody sideways.
It's crazy.
brian redban
Was it like a big hurricane though?
Was it like a three?
joe rogan
If I had a choice between moving back to Boston and living in Florida, I'd take Boston in a fucking heartbeat.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Shit winters and all.
Fuck yeah.
unidentified
Why?
joe rogan
First of all, they have a sense of humor.
brian redban
Wait, are you saying Boston versus Florida, you'd pick Boston?
joe rogan
Fuck yeah.
No doubt about it.
Are you kidding me?
Human beings in Boston, it does not compare.
Just being around the human beings, you'd have way more fun in Boston.
A thousand times more fun.
They're way more fun.
tom segura
The further south you go to in Florida, it gets crazier, more aggressive.
joe rogan
You might as well be in a foreign country.
unidentified
Oh, I love it.
joe rogan
They should have a fucking passport to go to Miami.
brian redban
I love it.
joe rogan
They should check you at the border.
unidentified
You guys are thinking all the bad parts of Florida.
brian redban
There's so much good shit.
There's so much pussy.
joe rogan
Tommy and I have done a bunch of gigs in Florida.
We did the Florida Comedy Festival.
We did that theater down in Miami.
We've done the improv a couple times.
unidentified
We did Tampa.
tom segura
We did West Palm.
joe rogan
We've done a bunch of gigs.
It's fun.
That's crazy.
I'm done with that place.
I cut that place out of my diet in the early 2000s.
Me and Joey Diaz used to go down there because Joey knew the guy who was the original owner.
The original owner is always like, let me get a drawer.
That was back when Joey was in the dark days and he would just get money.
And the club owners would be reluctant to give him money because he might disappear.
Call you from Havana on a fucking raft.
unidentified
Dog, I don't know how I got here, but it looks like I'm stuck.
joe rogan
You know, and we would go to these, do these shows at the Miami Improv, and the whole crowd would break out into a fucking discussion.
Like, over nothing.
christina pazsitzky
They're real chatty.
joe rogan
I had a joke where I mentioned Oscar De La Hoya.
Somehow or another, it was like a part of a joke that I used to do.
Something about getting punched by Oscar De La Hoya.
And then someone goes...
Fuck Oscar De La Jolla, man!
Fernando Vargas!
unidentified
Fernando Vargas!
joe rogan
And then it was like, he's a bitch!
Julio Cesar Chavez is the man!
And then it became this fucking crazy argument amongst apes.
They might as well.
They might as well have been...
Chimpanzees that someone taught how to talk.
They were just the dumbest human beings I've ever been around.
And the rest of the crowd was the people who were forced to live around these moron kids.
And so they were just like sighing, like shaking their head back and forth.
Like, oh, I'm sorry.
But it was a savage crowd.
They had not tamed that crowd.
And because of that, the most unruly of the unruly, the dumbest of the dumb, were drawn to that club and they papered the fuck out of the room.
The original owner, he used to gack out hardcore.
What's that mean?
unidentified
No!
joe rogan
And so he wasn't taking care of the place correctly, apparently.
I don't know.
unidentified
You should try it these days.
joe rogan
This is allegedly.
This is all allegedly.
I'm not trying Miami Improv.
unidentified
It's fun now.
Fuck!
joe rogan
Fuck you!
unidentified
It's fun now.
joe rogan
I remember the day when I was on stage where this was breaking out.
This fucking fire.
unidentified
I don't know why this, bro!
joe rogan
And I stop in the middle of my set and I go, you people are way too dumb and I'm never coming back here.
I'm like, this is ridiculous.
Did you not come out?
You came out to a comedy show and you want to yell at who's your favorite boxer.
There was the impulsiveness.
There was no discipline.
It was literally like you were around the brattiest kids ever, but they were drinking and somehow or another they were 21. They were the brattiest kids who just felt like they could just yell things out.
And it's like, does anybody ever tell you to shut the fuck up?
unidentified
Ever?
christina pazsitzky
I know.
joe rogan
Does anybody ever tell you to shut the fuck up?
Because this is nonsense.
You have to be a crazy person to come to a comedy club and be this unaware.
unidentified
Well, yeah.
christina pazsitzky
Can I ask you something?
Because this happened to me at the comedy store on Saturday.
Have you ever had someone...
Just make a comment in the crowd or just say some shit to you that enrages you.
It hits a trigger in you so fucking hard.
joe rogan
That's what they're trying to do.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, and you see Red and you're like, I'm gonna fucking...
joe rogan
And then they have that big animated troll face.
I love that face.
That's what they have.
They won.
What did he say?
christina pazsitzky
What do you do?
It was so stupid.
I was talking about birth control pill and how they market it.
And they always say it's to regulate.
It was a dumb throwaway.
It was a minute thing.
And I don't usually talk about my period.
I know that's a fucking email comic cliche.
And I know.
And he made an audible, ugh!
And I went bonkers because he had a woman with him.
And in my head I'm thinking, Asshole, you're with a woman.
You fuck that woman.
You put your mouth on her vagina.
Babies, come out of that vagina.
Why are you so offended at just the sheer...
Like I said, it wasn't a bit about it.
I didn't go into it.
It was a throwaway thing I had said.
And it immediately, for whatever reason, I wanted to fucking kill that guy.
joe rogan
Well, because your instincts are correct.
The guy's a douchebag.
And what was really going on was that the guy is probably insecure, and he probably wanted to impress the girl by being more funny than you, or by criticizing you, or maybe came in with really close-minded expectations, like, chicks aren't funny.
There's a fucking chick up there.
christina pazsitzky
Right, but he was laughing.
Everything after that, I did well, and then he laughed.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Everything after that.
Well, you know what?
Maybe he had to shut the fuck up because he knew that he was going to get crushed and then he was like, oh my god, I'm getting no pussy now.
I'm already a loser.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
You know, he probably panicked.
unidentified
Oh, I see.
joe rogan
He probably got a little cocky.
christina pazsitzky
I see.
joe rogan
You fucking chest flexed him and he panicked and he went into a goddamn tailspin.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, I see.
But then how do you deal with people when they say shit that just triggers your thing?
joe rogan
You've got to be zen.
Look, it's all snake poison.
This is what it is.
christina pazsitzky
I need help, guys.
joe rogan
When you get bit by a snake the first time, you get fucked up.
It's venomous.
It tears you up.
You're sick.
You could die.
But after those fucking guys that handle snakes all the time, when they get bit, those motherfuckers, they're immune to the shit because they give themselves injections of snake venom.
They do it on purpose.
It's like a comic forcing themselves to do a spot at the comic store Tuesday at 1 o'clock in the morning.
You're giving yourself snake venom.
The only people there are junkies or fucking wastoids or drunk tourists that just wandered in from off the street.
christina pazsitzky
I don't know.
joe rogan
It's not like it's a comedy connoisseur audience, right?
But that's snake venom.
You get a little snake venom in you and after a while you become immune to it.
And then when people yell things out, then you can go, why are you yelling?
What's going on with you?
christina pazsitzky
That's actually brilliant, yeah.
joe rogan
Then you turn it on them and then they become a part of the show.
My issue with it is then it's a different kind of comedy.
People enjoy it because they love...
Off the cuff shit.
They love watching hackers get destroyed.
People get a kick out of that shit.
But at the end of the day, it's a different show.
You're not doing your set anymore.
What's much better is that you get to do your set unfucked with.
Yeah, I can do that, man.
Look, I do question and answers where I'll do like an hour more and I'll just let people yell out anything.
And I talk to the people in the crowd.
I do that all the time.
But that's after I've already done my material, man.
Don't interrupt.
That's gross.
And the only people that do that are idiots.
You have to be an idiot to yell at a movie theater.
You have to be an idiot to yell at a comedy show, to try to get someone's attention, to try to interrupt and inject your own bullshit.
I always tell them, man, go to an open mic night.
It's not that hard.
unidentified
You can do it.
joe rogan
I know you do.
I know you're insecure, and this is the easy way to do it.
But really, you want attention.
And you want attention that you don't fucking deserve.
And instead of going through the proper channels to get this attention, what you're doing is trying to usurp it from someone who has achieved it.
Here, you are on the stage.
You've gone through the part of getting hired by the club.
You've got television credits.
You're an established stand-up comedian, seasoned by the road.
You're on the stage, and this person literally wants to jump into your spot automatically, usurp your position.
They're essentially trying to steal your bike.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's what he's trying to do.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, I don't agree with the mentality.
I don't understand that I would never do that.
unidentified
Because you're not a cunt.
christina pazsitzky
That's fucking crazy.
Yeah, exactly.
joe rogan
I always say only losers do that shit.
You're not going to take a winner.
There's no winner in the world.
No person who's got their shit together in the world who wants to yell out and cause attention to this whole other comedy show.
That's a sign of immaturity or just a lack of objective analysis of their own self and the way they behave.
tom segura
It's a total lack of civility, too.
christina pazsitzky
I was more mad at myself that I let that guy sidetrack me.
That's what always happens.
joe rogan
But it's good for you.
Ultimately, it's good for you.
It is, really.
You learn from that shit.
christina pazsitzky
Because then you're like, why did that trigger that in me?
I just wanted to kill him.
joe rogan
The worst is when they come up to you, I was helping you out up there.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Brian, you've been heckled a lot, right?
You get heckled, don't you?
brian redban
No, not really.
joe rogan
I've seen you get heckled.
Do you not remember?
unidentified
No.
brian redban
No, I mean, nothing bad.
Maybe somebody will yell something out, but nothing like where they keep on going the whole time, where it's like a real heckle back and forth.
joe rogan
How much difference do you find in doing my shows as opposed to doing just random shows on the road?
brian redban
Your shows are just fun because they know me.
And that completely is awesome because they already know my sense of humor.
joe rogan
Yeah, they already know you're a silly person.
brian redban
Yeah, so it's already easy for you just to start your show.
joe rogan
It's totally different, right?
Isn't that cool?
That's the best when you have your own audience.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, I can't wait.
joe rogan
You guys are going to have it.
Look, you know, your podcast is fucking hilarious.
And folks who haven't heard it, it's Your Mom's House and it's on Death Squad.
So if you go to iTunes and if you want to look specifically for theirs, look for the Death Squad ones that say Your Mom's House.
And that's Tom and the lovely Mrs. Segura.
One of my favorite ones.
tom segura
It's a lot of fun to do, man.
We really enjoy doing it.
joe rogan
Yeah, and we're going to put the Ice House ones, folks, for everybody who's been asking.
That is also now going to be on Death Squad.
So what it's called is the Ice House Chronicles, and we have a full studio set up in Pasadena, and it is fucking dope.
And Brian has been doing all of his podcasts out of there now.
That's cool.
Yeah, it's awesome.
We're going to do one out of there this Thursday.
I'm not sure who's going to do it yet, but then we're going to have a show there Thursday night.
So that should be a lot of fun.
The Thursday night show is a 10 p.m.
show, and...
Get tickets from the Ice House, icehousecomedy.com and get them quick because it will sell out.
It's only 85 seats.
We did it last week and it sold out and it was fucking awesome.
The crowd is cool as shit, man.
These podcast fans are awesome.
This is the greatest, smartest thing I've ever done and it totally happened by accident.
tom segura
Can I ask your fans to come see me?
unidentified
Yes!
tom segura
Where are you?
This week I'm going to be at the Comedy Mix in the great city of Vancouver.
unidentified
Oh, that is a great club.
tom segura
Thursday, Friday, Saturday at the Comedy Mix on Burrard Street.
It's one of my favorites that I play.
unidentified
Yeah, that is the old Yuck Yucks.
I've never done that yet.
joe rogan
Yuck Yucks in Vancouver.
unidentified
It's the shit.
joe rogan
Oh, it's one of the best...
set up rooms in the country or I shouldn't say in the country because Canada not just the country North America North America it's a perfect setup it's low ceilings tight seating I love it great place nice crowd great owner nice guy nice people that work there It's great.
Yeah, Tommy and I did it last time we did it.
We did a theater on Friday...
What did we do on Friday night?
Where did we go?
tom segura
I forget the name of the theater.
joe rogan
We did a theater on Friday night, and then Saturday night, after the fights, we went...
tom segura
No, is it Enmore?
Is that right?
joe rogan
I don't remember.
And then after the fights, we went and did...
It might have been...
And after the fights, we went and did the comedy mix.
It's fucking great.
What a great little club.
And like I said, it used to be Yuck Yucks.
We did it as Yuck Yucks back in the day, right?
You, me, and who else?
Who else did it with us?
Yoshi.
Yoshi did it with us.
Who's going to be on the show Thursday night?
unidentified
Thursday night.
tom segura
Yeah.
I did it once.
joe rogan
We've got to do more shows with Yoshi.
brian redban
Yeah, I like Yoshi a lot.
joe rogan
He's hilarious.
brian redban
He's friends with Asa Akira, this girl that we had on the podcast yesterday.
By the way, have you guys watched a porn video on your TV recently, like in HD? Like, it's completely disgusting.
No.
joe rogan
Well, you're watching that hardcore open up your asshole.
unidentified
Oh, I hate that.
brian redban
Well, I haven't watched porn on a TV recently, I don't know.
christina pazsitzky
I hate singing cypher.
joe rogan
They're doing terrible things to people.
tom segura
That's super aggressive shit.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's like the rape simulation.
There's a lot of spitting and assholes.
It's just rape.
unidentified
You're watching race.
brian redban
You're watching rape now.
joe rogan
That's aggressive shit.
He had like eagle claws.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And he was prying upon the nostril and the vagina at the same time.
tom segura
I don't like seeing that whole rectal...
unidentified
Eagle claw.
Eagle claw.
tom segura
And I'm also not like...
I mean, I like it watching an aggressively done blowjob, sure.
Do you?
I don't like it aggressive at all.
joe rogan
I don't like confusing sex with rape.
I agree it's too violent.
tom segura
I don't mean violent.
joe rogan
I am very, very in touch with my chimpanzee instincts.
And I think there's probably some dark reason why men are so much fucking stronger than women.
And it probably has a lot to do with nature wanting us to hold you down and fuck the shit out of you.
Sometimes you fight back and we have to club you.
So I don't want to ever tap into that fucking primordial pool of behavior.
tom segura
I mean the aggressiveness coming from the girl.
I don't mean like a throat smash.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, I know.
When they get crazy.
tom segura
That's fun to watch for a little bit.
joe rogan
But then when they go like...
tom segura
I don't like it that aggressive.
christina pazsitzky
Can I tell you, I don't like either.
And I love Bella Donna because she's very pro.
I like her energy and I like her as a person.
I got to meet her at Sam Tripoli's Naughty Show.
But when she puts a baseball bat.
joe rogan
Up her ass.
christina pazsitzky
Not the thin end.
The other end.
tom segura
Not the end you hold.
unidentified
What the fuck?
joe rogan
I forget who sent me that.
I think it might have been Duncan.
It was a long time ago someone sent me that video.
And the heading just said, batter up.
And so I opened the email.
You know it's one of those things where someone just sends you something in the email.
I opened the email and then it just said, I love people!
Exclamation point, exclamation point, exclamation point.
And then this link.
And I clicked the link and this girl has a bat up her ass.
unidentified
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
And just joyfully.
joe rogan
Well, I was like, well, fuck, man.
Someone finally did the last thing that there is to do.
And then I thought about it.
I'm like, wow, I wonder how long it took to do this.
And then I said, well, how many people have done this?
So then I Googled baseball bat up the ass.
And there's like fucking 28,284 million.
I mean, who knows how many goddamn results there were.
But it was ridiculous.
It's like there's a whole genre of porn where girls stick baseball bats up each other's asses now.
christina pazsitzky
She didn't do it first.
joe rogan
They can't help but take it to the darkest level possible.
Didn't you say that Homegirl did double anal and double vaginal?
brian redban
We were joking in the interview.
I said something about double vaginal and double anal.
Which is Trey Parker in Matt Stone's band.
That's why I always say it as a joke.
I didn't think people actually did it.
joe rogan
Asshole and vagina were really like the center point of a kaleidoscope of vaginal.
Male bodies.
It was just male bodies and then two cocks in her vagina and two cocks in her asshole.
How do you do that physically?
How do you physically stand?
How does everybody find a good spot to stand?
brian redban
Four Asians?
joe rogan
That's not even good.
Four cocks!
They would have to be like Cirque du Soleil dancers.
unidentified
This video that she's in though, every time...
Wait, who are we talking about?
tom segura
Bella Donner?
brian redban
Asa Akira.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, I'm sorry.
brian redban
And every video she went to, or every person she went to, it just got bigger and bigger.
She was fucking this black dude, where his dick, seriously, was about the size from my kneecap to my foot.
And thick.
That thick.
And she's just fucking in the ass with that.
It just slips right in, and it's in HD, and it's fucking...
unidentified
I put it on 3D, and it didn't help anything.
But that's what bothers me is that they hurry in the anal.
christina pazsitzky
They hurry?
I'm very timid.
joe rogan
They get busy with it?
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, it's like, are you ready?
Bam!
There's no gentle...
joe rogan
Are you ready?
unidentified
Yeah, there's no gentle one finger.
joe rogan
Well, you know what it is?
Because obviously there's some editing, some professional editing.
What they're giving you is only the most extreme aspect of the fantasy.
A lot of it involves men abusing the women.
brian redban
Yeah, this guy was dragging her from one part of the house to the other part of the house by her hands.
I heard somewhere that the incidence of rape has gone down.
With this type of porn?
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, absolutely.
joe rogan
Well, that's the Japanese philosophy.
christina pazsitzky
I don't know if it's true.
I don't know if it's founded.
joe rogan
Makes sense.
Look, I think sexual suppression is responsible.
And then also the lack of expression is responsible for a lot of things that people do where they act out, do something fucked up.
But then how many people are going to be inspired by these videos to actually do it to get the ultimate thrill and do it in real life?
christina pazsitzky
I don't know.
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't know.
christina pazsitzky
I'm a lady.
brian redban
Do you guys ever switch it up in the bedroom?
unidentified
Like, Tom dresses up as the woman and you dress up as the guy?
joe rogan
Yeah, no big deal.
Whatever, whatever.
unidentified
Tom wears the shoes with the heels and whatever.
christina pazsitzky
Could you see Tom as a woman?
tom segura
I put on her onesie.
I put on her onesie.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, you did, yeah.
tom segura
Hey, Tom.
joe rogan
Well, let me ask you this, Tom, because you're a sports fan.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
You're a big sports fan.
What do you think about the whole Oscar De La Hoya getting caught wearing women's clothes?
unidentified
Hey!
joe rogan
No, he just recently admitted it.
He got caught a long time ago.
tom segura
He got caught a while ago.
joe rogan
But he said it was all Photoshop nonsense.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
But he recently admitted it because he said it's been haunting him.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
And apparently, like, this other girl just came out.
Another girl just came out and did an interview and said that this was like he would do.
He would corner everybody.
He wouldn't let the girls leave.
He'd, like, intimidate them.
He'd be, like, wearing girls' clothes and hanging out with them and talking like a girl.
tom segura
I think, I mean, I totally buy it.
And I mean, I think it's quirky.
But I think, you know, when you hear, like, a story about somebody and your brain always does the assessment of, like, Right.
Can I see this person doing that?
unidentified
Right.
tom segura
When I heard that initially about Oscar de Hoya, I was like, you get over the, like, the what?
What's the story?
And then I was like, oh, I could see that.
I could too.
I could see that.
joe rogan
Do you think it's a gay thing?
tom segura
Like, if you said, like, Bernard Hopkins did it, I'd be like, nah, nah, dude.
christina pazsitzky
No, J. Edgar Hoover was a cross-dresser.
unidentified
No, he was gay.
christina pazsitzky
It's cross-dressing.
joe rogan
J. Edgar Hoover was gay.
christina pazsitzky
Was he?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
unidentified
He was gay.
christina pazsitzky
Well, my understanding of cross-dressing is that it is not necessarily related to homosexuality.
joe rogan
That doesn't make any sense to me.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
Seems pretty queer from where I'm sitting.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It might be a different flavor of queer.
It might not be your standard, genetic, I was born gay queer.
But it's still queer.
tom segura
I think it leads to something to it.
joe rogan
And I respect him.
And by the way, I have zero problem with any kink that you have.
I'm not criticizing him in any way.
I don't want to get confused.
I respect that guy.
I think he's a great fighter.
tom segura
He's a great fighter.
joe rogan
An interesting guy and a very brilliant businessman.
If you want to wear dresses, I think you should wear dresses.
I don't give a fuck.
I think it's just weird.
Is that what it is?
christina pazsitzky
It's pretty.
joe rogan
It's just fun.
tom segura
Guys like him.
I think he...
I like him.
christina pazsitzky
He's from LA. I think if he were to...
tom segura
I don't know if he's from here.
unidentified
Oscar?
Yeah, yeah.
tom segura
East LA. If he were to promote fights in a dress, that would be...
christina pazsitzky
I got very excited.
joe rogan
Well, there's a Japanese guy.
tom segura
He's bringing a whole new market.
christina pazsitzky
I would go watch it.
joe rogan
I forget the guy's name.
I'll look it up real quick because I don't want to end this on a bad note.
There's a Japanese kickboxer that's a cross-dresser.
christina pazsitzky
Is he out about it?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
It's part of his walk-in entrance.
He comes into the ring with the fucking wig on and pigtails and dressed up like a schoolgirl.
And beats the fuck out of people.
I mean, he's a badass kickboxer.
christina pazsitzky
Well, it's okay if I wear pants and a tuxedo.
tom segura
Yeah, it's different.
Guys, we don't really, you know...
christina pazsitzky
But why is it considered...
It's not considered cross-dressing if I dress like a dude?
tom segura
There's not...
I don't think guys that aren't...
Most straight men don't have any desire to wear a dress.
unidentified
No, I know.
christina pazsitzky
No, I completely understand.
unidentified
A kilt?
tom segura
Let your balls loose a little bit?
That's about as far as it goes, right?
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, I mean, there's more utility in me wearing pants.
tom segura
Yeah, than guys wearing...
brian redban
Have you ever worn a girl's thong before?
tom segura
No.
brian redban
It's really pointless.
joe rogan
Why did you wear a girl's thong?
christina pazsitzky
I don't even wear a girl's thong.
brian redban
I spent the night at my girlfriend's house recently and I didn't have any underwear.
You put on her thong?
I took a shower and I was like, do you have any underwear?
She's like, I only have thongs.
And I'm like, no.
So I tried it.
It was pretty much pointless.
Why do you even bother wearing it?
christina pazsitzky
Can I tell you how unsanitary they are?
tom segura
You tried it because you're like, I need underwear.
brian redban
Right.
It's stupid.
christina pazsitzky
Well, it puts your asshole bacteria on your vagina.
brian redban
Yeah, you get a yeast infection that way.
christina pazsitzky
It's terrible for you.
You gotta get some full back cotton breathers.
tom segura
Like mommy wear.
unidentified
Did you know that you were not supposed to move your dick from the ass up?
brian redban
You didn't know?
I didn't know for a while.
joe rogan
How'd you not know?
brian redban
I mean, I found out recent.
unidentified
How the fuck did you not know?
joe rogan
Stuff and shit into your asshole.
brian redban
Because I never got into ass sex much, I guess.
joe rogan
It's not bad.
Well, you know, little girls, little young girls, oftentimes get sick because they wipe their ass incorrectly.
Because they wipe their ass into their vagina.
You've got to teach them to wipe their ass the wrong way.
They can get, like, septic.
christina pazsitzky
You can.
joe rogan
It's fucking dangerous, man.
It's like, you can get really sick, like, real bad.
And that's how sick you can get from going butthole to vagina.
brian redban
Yeah, I never really had to deal with that, I guess, until recently.
christina pazsitzky
Do you get shit on your balls?
tom segura
It's in your mouth.
christina pazsitzky
Do you get shit on your balls?
How are you wiping?
brian redban
Standing up with one leg on the...
christina pazsitzky
Which direction are you wiping?
Are you wiping front to back?
joe rogan
He likes his balls with shitty...
unidentified
Or whichever side hurts less to the other side last.
christina pazsitzky
What do you mean?
tom segura
He abuses his asshole.
brian redban
He ate a lot of meat.
tom segura
He uses plugs a lot.
brian redban
David tells my brother.
christina pazsitzky
I've been using paper towels a lot to wipe.
brian redban
Oh, do not flush that shit.
That would destroy your whole entire plumbing.
joe rogan
Nagashima, that's the dude.
The dude's name is Nagashima.
Nagashima is the Japanese gentleman who dresses up like a girl.
And even in his...
Look at this, check this out.
tom segura
What is he wearing?
joe rogan
Take a look at this.
Yeah, he's a badass.
He knocked out Shinya Aoki.
He's one of the best MMA guys in the world.
This is him with a wig on, dressed like a girl.
christina pazsitzky
What kind of wig does he like?
joe rogan
This one's a blonde one.
He wears different ones all the time.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, who doesn't want to be a blonde one?
joe rogan
Uchihiro Nagashima.
That's bad motherfucker, for real?
Oh, dude.
He destroyed Shinya.
tom segura
Does he enter the ring like that?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Look, here's another one of him.
unidentified
Look at this.
joe rogan
This one, he's got a blue wig on.
He's dressed like a girl.
christina pazsitzky
I love the Japanese.
joe rogan
So do I. And he beats the fuck out of people.
tom segura
So do you think, in your opinion, is that like, he's gay, this is like, I'm taking my gay rage to the ring?
joe rogan
No, I mean, I don't know.
Look, for sure there's been some gay fighters, but no one's ever come out And he's not open?
No, no, he might not be gay.
He might just be just for fun.
christina pazsitzky
I'm sorry, gay boxers, you mean?
MMA fighters.
joe rogan
Well, gay boxers as well.
Emil Griffith is a famous middleweight champion, and there's a guy who taunted him, and the guy wound up dying.
Bernie Perrette, I think the guy's name was?
Bernie Perrette?
I forget the guy's name.
But he killed him in a fight, I believe it was in New York, in a boxing match.
The guy had taunted him for being gay.
Yeah, there's, you know, there's...
Yeah, there's...
tom segura
You don't want to taunt gay buzzers.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, I'd beat the shit out of him, too.
tom segura
Isn't that smart?
Somebody told me about a show in New York, I forget at what club, where one of the comics was making, I don't know, gay jokes, but doing just gay slurs, and I don't know what he was saying, and there was a big, jacked-up dude in the audience who just came on stage and just punched him twice, knocked him out.
unidentified
Oh, good.
christina pazsitzky
There you go.
joe rogan
Yeah, Jesus Christ.
christina pazsitzky
Can I tell you the good thing about comics is that we don't become serial killers or pedophiles.
I mean, I'm sure there's some rapists.
joe rogan
What about that rapist that was the one guy who was the cruise liner guy who would go to colleges and shit and rape girls?
tom segura
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
Rapists, yes.
joe rogan
And ask them to pray for them.
He would rape them and ask them to pray for them.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, my God.
joe rogan
Yeah, Emile Griffith was widely known as being a gay man, and he had a fight with this guy, Benny Paré, in 1962 for the Welterweight Championship.
And the guy had taunted him about being gay, and he beat him to death.
tom segura
Jesus.
joe rogan
He beat that fucking guy to death.
christina pazsitzky
Jesus.
joe rogan
But other than that, there's few and far between people who have been recognized as being gay.
christina pazsitzky
That's what you get, man.
joe rogan
We tell the story on the podcast about this one guy who got caught in an MMA promotion.
Well, there is another guy who is an out guy who fights in MMA fights.
I forget his name right now.
It escapes me.
Shane, Shane Smith, I think.
But he's out.
They've done stories about him in the New York Times.
Shad Smith, that's his name.
And this other guy, they caught him because they researched his name, and they found out that another guy with the same name had done a bunch of gay porns, and then he just vanished.
He just disappeared and stopped fighting.
But other than that, no one's ever come out.
christina pazsitzky
Would that be a big deal?
joe rogan
Except that Shad Smith character.
christina pazsitzky
I mean, in 2011?
joe rogan
For a lot of people.
unidentified
Sure.
brian redban
Do they tap in?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
For a lot of people, it'd be a big deal.
Do they tap in?
What does that mean?
Well, instead of tapping out.
unidentified
LAUGHTER Oh, Brian, you silly goose.
joe rogan
And with that note...
Oh, I want to say thank you to Lorenzo from the Psychedelic Salon podcast.
I listen to a couple podcasts.
I listen to The Death Squad.
I listen to a bunch of different ones like Kevin Smith and Marc Maron and Adam Carole when I get a chance.
But really, I've been listening to, yeah, Your Mom's House and The Naughty Show and all these different ones.
But really, I've been listening to The Psychedelic Salon a lot lately.
So I want to thank this guy, Lorenzo, for putting that out.
And you could subscribe to that as well.
It's all free.
I think it's on iTunes.
I'm pretty sure it is.
But you can find it.
Go look for it.
unidentified
Google it.
joe rogan
Psychedelic Salon.
It's the shit.
And what it really is is a lot of really interesting talks with a lot of Terrence McKenna stuff.
And I listened to this really crazy Timothy Leary talk the other day.
Really interesting, interesting shit.
Thank you.
tom segura
Can I tell you, fans, after Vancouver this weekend, December 1st through the 4th, I'll be in Calgary at the Laugh Shop.
Oh, nice.
And December 15th through 18th, I'm really looking forward to the Laughing Skull in Atlanta, which is really fun.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, that's right.
tom segura
And then Christine and I will both be for New Year's in Seattle at Parlor Live.
christina pazsitzky
And December 14th through 17th, Crackers Comedy Club in Indianapolis.
Downtown, baby!
joe rogan
How often do you guys work together?
christina pazsitzky
Seldom.
tom segura
Not that much.
joe rogan
We try to.
tom segura
Yeah, it's fun.
christina pazsitzky
But it's so corny, the marketing.
unidentified
No, it's not.
christina pazsitzky
You don't know how to do it yet.
joe rogan
You don't have to do it corny.
You're both funny.
You're both funny.
If I didn't think you were both funny, I would never say that you were both funny on the air.
I really do.
tom segura
No, yeah.
joe rogan
You guys are both hilarious.
You'd be awesome together.
tom segura
It is fun.
It is fun.
unidentified
We do it.
tom segura
New Year's will be a blast.
unidentified
Do it.
joe rogan
You should market yourself.
It would make your marriage a lot easier.
You don't have to...
tom segura
That's true.
brian redban
You could kiss each other.
joe rogan
You could fucking bang right before you go on stage.
You could just shoot one in there and just go right up on stage.
Send her up on stage dripping.
unidentified
How about that?
joe rogan
How about that?
christina pazsitzky
I could put a baseball bat in my ass before I go up.
joe rogan
You should launch her onto the stage with your cough.
tom segura
You know what I could do?
unidentified
That's a really good idea.
tom segura
And that's our hook.
I could put DMT and vodka on the tip of my dick.
And then you go up super high.
christina pazsitzky
Wow, you guys.
joe rogan
Thank you to the Fleshlight.
unidentified
Thanks for having us.
joe rogan
In a free society, we would have a Fleshlight with DMT and vodka at the end of it.
But no, in this dirty little prison that we live in, where you're confined, you can't do what you really want to do!
unidentified
This fucking government's holding me back, goddammit!
joe rogan
Thank you to the Fleshlight.
Go to JoeRogan.net, click on the link, enter in the code name Rogan, get it in the mail, open it up, lube it up, and get your freak on.
Okay?
Holla at your boy.
unidentified
Thanks, dude.
joe rogan
Enter in your name and you get 15% off.
And thank you to Onnit.com.
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New Mood's the newest one.
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We are bitches.
Cause you know we love you.
Thank you to Tom Segura.
Please follow him on Twitter.
It's Tom S-E-G-U-R-A. And follow Christina Segura.
Even though she goes by this fucking P at the end of her name.
With some bunch of fucking random vowels and consonants jammed up together.
And some strange soup of words that no one can...
I bet you can't even spell your name.
unidentified
Can you spell your name?
joe rogan
How often do you spell your name wrong?
christina pazsitzky
Never.
Never, not ever, Joe Rogan.
joe rogan
Come on, son.
unidentified
How dare you?
At Christina P. At Christina P. And we'll be back.
joe rogan
Doug Benson's doing it tomorrow.
With Doug Benson tomorrow at 3 p.m.
And then, again, we will have a podcast and we will have a show at the Ice House on Thursday night.
So it'll be the same thing.
Podcast while the show's going on.
We're going to podcast before the show goes on.
brian redban
8 o'clock p.m.
joe rogan
At 8 o'clock we're going to start the podcast.
It's a party.
Okay, folks?
It's a fucking party and you're invited but you don't get to talk.
I'm sorry you can't talk too.
I'm sorry you can't talk too.
But I'm happy that you're enjoying it.
And we love you guys and we'll talk to you soon.
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