Nov. 7, 2011 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out! | |
| The Joe Rogan Experience. | ||
| Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I'm ready when you want. | ||
| Matt's already on the roll. | ||
| Yeah, he's on the roll, man. | ||
| We gotta get it going. | ||
| I feel like we missed it already. | ||
| Yeah, we missed the joy that it's Matt Serra. | ||
| We need a name for this order of unruly gentlemen. | ||
| We need a name for us. | ||
| Matt? | ||
| I want to think about it. | ||
| This is Matt's first zen, by the way. | ||
| And it's a six milligram. | ||
| That's a heavy dose. | ||
| But I'm not a... | ||
| I'm a caffeine guy. | ||
| I love caffeine. | ||
| That's a lot like caffeine, but even more. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I've seen it at 7-Eleven. | ||
| I know Tucker Carlson takes it. | ||
| He loves them. | ||
| He got so excited that I had one, he's like, well, you have them too. | ||
| It's not a dip, though. | ||
| No, it's just a little pouch. | ||
| It's not actual tobacco. | ||
| It's just the nicotine chemical. | ||
| Nicotine is a chemical is neuroprotective. | ||
| There's been studies that have done that show some sort of a connection with helping ward off Alzheimer's, I believe. | ||
| Find out if that's true. | ||
| I might have made that up. | ||
| Nicotine? | ||
| I might have made that up. | ||
| You said it's good for you. | ||
| Cat Williams weed is strong. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Nicotine as a chemical is not bad for you. | ||
| What's bad for you is the delivery system of cigarettes. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| Particularly cigarettes if you buy, like, cigarettes with chemicals in them. | ||
| So there's like, there's those, what are those, American spirits? | ||
| Yeah, whatever they're called. | ||
| American something. | ||
| That's like a marketing, I don't think that's true. | ||
| They have shit in them too? | ||
| Of course, they're cigarettes. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| I thought they were just supposed to be a paper and a tobacco. | ||
| Yeah, I don't think it is. | ||
| Oh, those liars. | ||
| Okay, nicotine for Alzheimer's disease. | ||
| There's no evidence from randomized controlled trials to support the use of nicotine as a treatment for Alzheimer's disease. | ||
| So what was the thing that, wasn't there something about a connection between the way nicotine works? | ||
| And some sort of... | ||
| there's something I read. | ||
| My thing is, if I start with the nicotine... | ||
| Go back to that please, Jamie. | ||
| It says, while nicotine itself doesn't cause dementia, the act of smoking cigarettes may be linked to an increased risk of developing dementia as you age. | ||
| The harmful substances in cigarette smokes can lead to inflammation factors linked to the onset of Alzheimer's disease. | ||
| I know that nicotine is a medication they use sometimes for heart patients. | ||
| So find out what that is. | ||
| What the fuck that is. | ||
| The whole thing is the cigarettes- The whole thing is the cigarettes- Did you ever see that movie with Russell Crowe, The Insider? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I know. | ||
| It's about the dude who works for the cigarette companies. | ||
| He's a chemist, and he's talking about all the shit they throw in the cigarettes to make them super hyper-addictive. | ||
| Oh, it sounds action-packed. | ||
| So it's actually not the nicotine that makes it addictive? | ||
| Well, nicotine's addictive as well. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Nicotine is addictive as well. | ||
| That's my question. | ||
| And then they just super juice it up, according to this movie. | ||
| Before you get me addicted to these things- If I put this in my mouth... | ||
| What are you going to be, scratching my fucking Tyrone? | ||
| If I start it and I'm going to... | ||
| If I'm an everyday... | ||
| What is this called again? | ||
| Zin. | ||
| If I'm an everyday Zin guy, if I stop it, am I going to be like... | ||
| No, I stopped it the other day for two days. | ||
| I said, I want to see what it's like. | ||
| And? | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| Did you wait three days? | ||
| What about four days? | ||
| I didn't have an itch, no. | ||
| I would think you would have got it earlier instead of later. | ||
| I like them. | ||
| Are you an everyday zinner? | ||
| Yeah, not every day. | ||
| I take days off. | ||
| But the thing is, I don't know if that's my biology. | ||
| I can just do things and stop doing them. | ||
| I can't. | ||
| There's a reason why I never tried fucking cocaine or anything. | ||
| I haven't either. | ||
| I had these two pizzeria bosses, and one of them just last week had to get a new spine, and now he's on a ventilator. | ||
| I don't want to get emotional now, but anyway. | ||
| I think he might be dead by now, but it's very depressing. | ||
| But anyway. | ||
| I was 17 years old, and I used to deliver pizzas for these guys, Nicky and Louie, and they were funny. | ||
| They remind me a little bit of a Joey Diaz. | ||
| They were just smoking cigarettes. | ||
| They were very funny. | ||
| But they told me, they go, if you try it once. | ||
| They used to have a cocaine problem, but they cleaned up. | ||
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And he goes, Matt, you try it once, and you're fucked. | |
| And wait, dude. | ||
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Sold! | |
| And I got scared. | ||
| I got fucking scared. | ||
| I'm scared. | ||
| And I knew that. | ||
| And I've been in situations, obviously, I mean, we all have, like, where it's like, talk about pure pressure, man. | ||
| I was like, fuck it. | ||
| And it's like, you know, you got to be that guy. | ||
| It'll be like, uh... | ||
| I got real lucky when I was growing up that I had friends that liked it, that were good friends that told me to never do it. | ||
| And then I also had a friend whose cousin sold it. | ||
| And when he sold it, he went from being this like regular dude to being like a vampire. | ||
| And he just stayed in the attic. | ||
| He had an attic apartment with his girlfriend and they just did coke and watched movies and sold coke. | ||
| And he lost a ton of weight. | ||
| He started getting real, like, gaunt and skinny looking. | ||
| And I was like, yo, it's like they got bit by a vampire. | ||
| It's like they got bit by a vampire. | ||
| It's like you're not the same person again. | ||
| Now your whole mission in his life is getting coke. | ||
| That's your whole mission. | ||
| Everything else is out the window. | ||
| All that success and love and family and friendship and dinners with friends. | ||
| Fuck all that. | ||
| You gotta get coke. | ||
| Nah, that's not the way it is. | ||
| You just throw this thing in your mouth like that? | ||
| I just stick it between my cheek and my gum. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| I'm in! | ||
| But you know what else I found that I really like? | ||
| I should kind of not be talking about this because these motherfuckers took the name that we use for our nootropic, which is Alpha Brain. | ||
| But these are like a nootropic pouch. | ||
| So this doesn't have any nicotine in it. | ||
| It's a bunch of nootropics, which I really like nootropics. | ||
| Maybe they didn't steal our name, but it's kind of funny. | ||
| Alpha Brain is the same. | ||
| Alpha Brain is one of the first ones. | ||
| The first one that I ever found out was Neuro 1. Remember that guy, Romanowski? | ||
| Yeah, Romanowski, who was a football player, obviously got a lot of head impacts, and he was having problems with his memory, so he devised a supplement. | ||
| It's really good. | ||
| That was the first one I ever found out about. | ||
| And, I'm sorry, what did you say is in that again? | ||
| This one? | ||
| It's got a bunch of different nootropics. | ||
| No, the word you just said. | ||
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Nootropics. | |
| No, not for the people at home. | ||
| Not me. | ||
| What exactly is that nootropic? | ||
| It's the building block for human neurochemistry. | ||
| So it's things like acetylcholine. | ||
| There's a bunch of different ones. | ||
| If you can, like, show the ingredients for alpha brain, if you could. | ||
| There's lutein. | ||
| There's a bunch of different things that have been shown to increase cognitive performance. | ||
| So we actually did randomized controlled trials at the Boston Center for Memory for Alpha Brain. | ||
| We sponsored two of them. | ||
| And it showed an increase in verbal memory, your ability to retain words, which I really find. | ||
| Like, I take it every time I do a UFC, I take Alpha Brain. | ||
| Always. | ||
| Helps my memory. | ||
| I'm talking about fights from... | ||
| I've watched 2,000 fights. | ||
| Yeah, you've been bringing up zingers that everybody forgot about. | ||
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I've got some Pete Spratt information for you. | |
| But it does help. | ||
| Okay, so... | ||
| Alpha-GPC, Harpersea, Vitamin B6. Theanine is a really good one, too. | ||
| Theanine is also in another thing I really like, which is NeuroGum. | ||
| Yeah, I actually use that. | ||
| Yep, I have these right here, NeuroMints. | ||
| I like these. | ||
| Not a sponsor, just good, good product. | ||
| Vitamin B6, obviously good for you. | ||
| So all these things, what it's shown is, if you take these things, it's just like, we know that there's certain nutrients that your body needs. | ||
| We know we need Vitamin D. And if you're not getting it from the sun, you can supplement it. | ||
| There's a bunch of different things you can supplement, but you can supplement the things that your brain needs to work at the best level. | ||
| Speaking of men, you saw the amount of supplements I take, you would go crazy. | ||
| Oh, I would not. | ||
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What the fuck are you talking about? | |
| If there was one dude in this room that I would come to, who's got the supplements? | ||
| John Rolo knows about some supplements. | ||
| What is that? | ||
| Some Jocko Mulk or some shit? | ||
| What do you want? | ||
| What kind of protein do you do? | ||
| I do have some Jocko's Mulk at the house. | ||
| Oh, bro. | ||
| I buy that shit by the case. | ||
| I have the new one. | ||
| Sweet Cream? | ||
| Yeah, Marbell's so great. | ||
| The steak shake? | ||
| I love that shit. | ||
| That's what I've been hitting lately. | ||
| But what I like about the Jocos is they're already made. | ||
| I'm lazy. | ||
| I gotta run out the door. | ||
| I grab two of those bitches. | ||
| I got two of those bitches. | ||
| I got 60 grams of protein. | ||
| Bam! | ||
| So you don't get the pre-made ones. | ||
| You gotta make them? | ||
| No, I get the powder. | ||
| And the main reason, too, is because I like to put it in my oatmeal, too. | ||
| So I'll mix it up like that. | ||
| Well, I'm not a goat, so I don't be eating oatmeal. | ||
| Like a fucking goat. | ||
| I'm eating bacon and eggs. | ||
| What are you eating? | ||
| I'm fucking back on. | ||
| I'm back to being gluten free now. | ||
| Isn't it funny that when people choke, people used to eat oatmeal if they were starving. | ||
| Those are people that were like poor people that were just starving to death working in the fields. | ||
| And now we're like, ooh, a granola. | ||
| Eat some bacon, you fucking idiot. | ||
| Get some eggs. | ||
| Just eat a dozen eggs and some bacon. | ||
| You feel like you're alive. | ||
| I hope you don't think I miss many meals. | ||
| Nah, you ain't missing any meals. | ||
| You mind if I grab some coffee? | ||
| Get in there, it's for you. | ||
| I've seen a, since the last time we spoke, remember the last time we were talking about my ass not to get anything fucked up? | ||
| I don't want to leave everybody on a cliffhanger. | ||
| The last we spoke, I was supposed to take a shit in a box to go to the lab. | ||
| And I had a... | ||
| It was... | ||
| I don't know what it was. | ||
| I just never did it. | ||
| And then I finally was like, you know what? | ||
| Fuck it. | ||
| I'm doing it. | ||
| And then I changed insurance so I had to get a different doctor. | ||
| So I had to... | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| I seen a holistic doctor, right? | ||
| So I ended up doing it. | ||
| Like a witch doctor? | ||
| Dude, now listen. | ||
| I was a little nervous too. | ||
| What is a holistic doctor? | ||
| Should I be... | ||
| Is that a real thing? | ||
| Is that a real thing? | ||
| Well, listen. | ||
| I'm going to find out. | ||
| Thank you, brother. | ||
| It's Mike G. It's... | ||
| From Huntington, right? | ||
| Somebody recommended him. | ||
| I know what you're thinking. | ||
| I was thinking the same thing. | ||
| It's going to be... | ||
| Do you have any sweetness? | ||
| We don't. | ||
| Nah, I'm a... | ||
| Look at me. | ||
| Prima Donna. | ||
| Do we have any out there? | ||
| No, I don't want to be that guy. | ||
| Jamie, sit down, please. | ||
| We got a guy. | ||
| What do you want? | ||
| Like Splenda? | ||
| Yeah, Splenda, Stevia. | ||
| He's like, I don't want to be that guy. | ||
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Splenda, Stevia, Stevia. | |
| You have any of that mint cream? | ||
| Jamie, sit down. | ||
| There's Stevia. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Listen, first of all, it's hard to get an appointment with a lot of these fucking doctors, you know? | ||
| Especially the holistic ones. | ||
| They're all doing voodoo. | ||
| A lot of ceremonies. | ||
| My wife started by trying to book these doctors and couldn't get it. | ||
| So then somebody recommended this guy. | ||
| So I was expecting a fucking half a hippie sipping wheatgrass. | ||
| I didn't know what to expect. | ||
| It was a guy who looked like John Rollo, 59. Strong guy. | ||
| Nice guy. | ||
| He was telling me that a lot of these, they just want to put you on meds. | ||
| They don't look at what caused the problem. | ||
| They just want to treat the problem. | ||
| They want to treat the problem. | ||
| He's like, I want to turn back time with you and shit like that. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Nice guy. | ||
| Like a Cher song. | ||
| Like a Cher song. | ||
| I thought you said it. | ||
| I thought you said it. | ||
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Turn back down. | |
| She was pretty, but she had no ass. | ||
| She didn't have to have an ass back then. | ||
| She snuck in under the wire. | ||
| She's still kind of hot. | ||
| I'd smash. | ||
| Back in the day she was gorgeous. | ||
| She looks pretty good today. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| Right now. | ||
| The Sonny animal. | ||
| The Sonny and Cher days. | ||
| The Sonny and Cher days. | ||
| She was hot. | ||
| That's wild that he went on. | ||
| What did he become? | ||
| A senator? | ||
| I think he was the mayor of whatever city he lived in. | ||
| Clint Eastwood became the mayor of Carmel, California. | ||
| I do remember that. | ||
| But I think Sonny Bono was like a senator or something. | ||
| Wasn't he, Jimmy? | ||
| Was he a congressman? | ||
| I knew he got in politics, for sure. | ||
| But, like, heavy duty into politics. | ||
| And then he died skiing. | ||
| Boom! | ||
| He ran into a tree. | ||
| Man, that's a motherfucker. | ||
| I know how Kennedy died, too, though. | ||
| Yeah, one of the Kennedys died the same way, and in, like, real close proximity to each other. | ||
| I used to love skiing, man. | ||
| 16th mayor of Palm Springs, California, from 88 to 92. He was a representative. | ||
| And served as the U.S. Representative for California's 44th District from 1995 to his death in 1998. He was both. | ||
| He was the mayor, too. | ||
| Let me ask you. | ||
| That's pretty crazy. | ||
| And he's a Republican. | ||
| I got you, babe. | ||
| The hippie movement? | ||
| Right. | ||
| With the fucking bell bottoms and shit? | ||
| My thing is this. | ||
| From Ronald Reagan to Sonny Bono. | ||
| Do people like the policies or are they just liking the fucking guy? | ||
| I was just watching Idiocracy the other day. | ||
| Oh my lord, it's so good. | ||
| That is the thing. | ||
| Oh wait, hold on. | ||
| That's fucking great. | ||
| So good. | ||
| It holds up so well. | ||
| You like the white Terry Crews. | ||
| He's seeing the council. | ||
| He's like, yeah, my first wife was tauted. | ||
| She's a pilot now. | ||
| No, that movie is fucking great. | ||
| It's a great movie, man. | ||
| It's not exactly politically correct, but it's fucking good. | ||
| It's not at all, but it holds up. | ||
| You almost couldn't make it today. | ||
| You can't make any of these. | ||
| Tropic Thunder. | ||
| Tropic Thunder would be impossible today. | ||
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No, you couldn't make that. | |
| I gotta watch that again. | ||
| Impossible today. | ||
| I haven't watched that in ages. | ||
| Bro. | ||
| Great movie. | ||
| That's a great movie, man. | ||
| Great movie. | ||
| That's a great move. | ||
| Robert Downey Jr., not only was he in blackface, but he was in yellowface. | ||
| Remember, he came out talking to them about catching Jack Black in the rice paddies and shit. | ||
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He was hilarious. | |
| Easy there, Shane Gillis. | ||
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I think they're going to be marching on ground control. | |
| Listen, man. | ||
| Asian people take it better than anybody. | ||
| You know who I know? | ||
| Emojis. | ||
| Emojis are all yellow and there's no complaints. | ||
| Not a single complaint. | ||
| Not a single complaint. | ||
| Yup, you're right. | ||
| Not a single complaint. | ||
| Asian people just keep working. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| They never have a problem. | ||
| That's what they say. | ||
| There was legit Asian hate, though, after COVID came out. | ||
| There was a lot of really dumb people that were just running up to Asian people, hitting them. | ||
| Yeah, no, I see that a lot. | ||
| Hitting them, screaming at them. | ||
| Especially when you look a lot on the subways. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| That's where they need people to step up. | ||
| But that's real. | ||
| Yeah, that was like violence, right? | ||
| That wasn't just, you know, talking. | ||
| Yeah, it wasn't just like yellow face. | ||
| You can get away with yellow face. | ||
| Nobody fucking does shit. | ||
| You can dress up like a bumblebee. | ||
| Nobody will freak out. | ||
| When they got that kid, there was a kid who turned out to actually be Native American who had half of his face. | ||
| Oh, the Chiefs game. | ||
| So brilliant. | ||
| He had literally put on war paint, I think, of the tribe that he's from. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Yeah, I'm pretty sure. | ||
| I think it's from the tribe that he's from. | ||
| One of those websites tried to label it as a fan, a racist fan in blackness. | ||
| So they only showed this side of his face, where it was dark, and the other side of his face was white, which was like this war paint. | ||
| Oh no. | ||
| And the kid turned out to be Indian. | ||
| Oh no. | ||
| So they got the double. | ||
| They were wrong twice. | ||
| People are just so quick to jump the gun. | ||
| I'm sick of this woke shit. | ||
| Let me tell you. | ||
| Let me tell you loud and clear. | ||
| I am sick of what they did to fucking Star Wars. | ||
| They took a shit all over it. | ||
| I'm a huge Marvel fan. | ||
| I love everybody. | ||
| I love everybody. | ||
| I have three daughters. | ||
| I love strong female characters. | ||
| Vasquez from fucking Aliens. | ||
| Oh, she was badass. | ||
| Sigourney Weaver. | ||
| Linda Hamilton. | ||
| I'll go on. | ||
| Terminator. | ||
| How about this? | ||
| There's nothing wrong with making everybody badass. | ||
| Now, I'm facing the wrong guys. | ||
| Did you guys see Ahsoka? | ||
| I did. | ||
| What's Ahsoka? | ||
| It's a Disney Plus show. | ||
| It's about a Jedi. | ||
| There she is! | ||
| Yeah, with Rosario Dawson. | ||
| Yeah, she's hot. | ||
| Not to get too geeky on you, but listen. | ||
| It's too late for that. | ||
| That ship has sailed. | ||
| I gotta listen. | ||
| I gotta go. | ||
| This is the deal. | ||
| With Ahsoka... | ||
| It's based basically off of another show, which was an animated show. | ||
| Not to get too nerdy on you. | ||
| First of all, before you pick on me, George St. Pierre watches these same fucking shows. | ||
| I talk to George about this, and we geek the fuck. | ||
| I go, George, how do we have a fight? | ||
| He knows more than me about all this shit. | ||
| He reads the books. | ||
| But anyway, this show is a cool show. | ||
| This show Rebels, right? | ||
| And it's about this young Jedi... | ||
| Ezra, right? | ||
| So now they're doing a live... | ||
| Guys, stay with me for two seconds. | ||
| So now the live action comes out, right? | ||
| And Ezra, at the end of the series, Ezra fights this guy Thrawn and he goes through another dimension and he leaves a fucking hero. | ||
| And now the next appearance is him live action in this series years later, right? | ||
| They make him the biggest cuck in the universe, right? | ||
| This guy was a fucking Jedi. | ||
| Badass in the cartoon. | ||
| I'll give you a couple instances, right? | ||
| They find him. | ||
| They're on the planet. | ||
| His friend finds him. | ||
| I forgot her name, but she gives him a fucking... | ||
| She's like a Mandalorian. | ||
| She gives him his lightsaber. | ||
| Do your thing. | ||
| Now, look. | ||
| They can't make him look too cool because he's a dude. | ||
| They go, hey. | ||
| He goes, listen, I don't need the lightsaber. | ||
| The Force is my weapon. | ||
| So already, boo, right there. | ||
| Big boo. | ||
| Really? | ||
| He's surrounded right now, so he's like doing some fucking hippie shit. | ||
| It's whatever. | ||
| Next! | ||
| This gets me now. | ||
| You'll relate, Dean. | ||
| You'll relate to this. | ||
| I'm with you. | ||
| Listen, now, they have two of these. | ||
| He's been on this planet. | ||
| They find them on. | ||
| They have two of these horses, these alien horses. | ||
| It's Ahsoka, the Mandalorian chick, and Ezra. | ||
| So there's three of them riding. | ||
| On a motorcycle, when there's two guys riding, now the guy in the back, it's called riding bitch. | ||
| Who's riding bitch? | ||
| Ezra! | ||
| Now is that just because, you know, it just happens to be? | ||
| No. | ||
| It's like that on purpose. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| You can have both. | ||
| You can have a strong woman character and a strong man character. | ||
| Yes! | ||
| Conan, the barbarian, could be riding on the back of a horse with a chick at the reins and no one would question shit. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, unless that's... | ||
| Wait, hold on. | ||
| Conan would never get on the back of a horse. | ||
| Fuck that. | ||
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Unless it's Red Sonja. | |
| He thinks she's so badass, he lets her... | ||
| Yeah, Red Sonja. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| He's gotta be humping the chick. | ||
| He was banging? | ||
| He's gotta be humping the chick to get on the back. | ||
| Yeah, she was like the warrior lady. | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| I disagree. | ||
| I don't think he's riding a bitch. | ||
| Me either. | ||
| I don't think he would either. | ||
| As I was saying it, I was like, I can't defend this. | ||
| I went too deep too fast. | ||
| I went too fast! | ||
| Yeah, you didn't take that out all the way! | ||
| This is fucking good! | ||
| Okay, maybe John Wick on the back of a motorcycle killing people while his girl drives. | ||
| Possibly. | ||
| You know what, man? | ||
| You wouldn't say John Wick's a pussy. | ||
| Well, you know. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| He's a very polite guy. | ||
| He's undeniable. | ||
| He cannot be a cuck. | ||
| Definitely not. | ||
| There's a big fucking... | ||
| But this guy was... | ||
| But the guy that he's talking about surely was. | ||
| I mean, I didn't even think he was a badass in the show. | ||
| But he was a badass in the cartoon. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So it's like... | ||
| Wait a minute, but it's all, who wrote it though? | ||
| Here's the thing, it's not really Star Wars. | ||
| It's just this new thing that they use in Star Wars, the Star Wars universe. | ||
| Star Wars is Luke Skywalker and Darth Vader and that's it. | ||
| It's Obi-Wan Kenobi, it's C-3PO, everything else you're just stealing my money. | ||
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That's pretty much what I think. | |
| Listen, right now, Han Solo would be toxic. | ||
| Han Solo was the fucking PIMP. How about when Han Solo's about to go with the fucking carbonite? | ||
| As a kid watching this, as a kid, it's emotional. | ||
| He's getting lowered into the fucking carbonite. | ||
| You don't know if he's gonna survive this thing. | ||
| Chewie's sitting there upset, fucking Lando's being a bit of a, you know, we're unsure about Lando. | ||
| And Leia! | ||
| Wait a minute. | ||
| I love Leia, though. | ||
| He's a badass. | ||
| But Leia goes to him, I love you. | ||
| What the fuck does he say back? | ||
| Watch this. | ||
| What does he say back? | ||
| Could you play it or no? | ||
| Watch this. | ||
| He says, I know. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Spoilers, Rogan. | ||
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Watch this. | |
| Watch this. | ||
| Look at that, first of all. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Watch this. | ||
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I love you. | |
| I know. | ||
| Yes! | ||
| Gangster! | ||
| That's my fucking Star Wars! | ||
| He doesn't know if he's gonna live! | ||
| He doesn't, and he does love her, he does. | ||
| He's the fucking man. | ||
| I love him so well. | ||
| Hey, Ezra, Ezra, take notes! | ||
| Matt Serra, former UFC welterweight champion, is also a nerd. | ||
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A real, full-on, 100%, full-on nerd. | |
| First of all, can I thank you now? | ||
| Because listen, this show doesn't come without perks. | ||
| Listen. | ||
| I was only geeking about VR last time. | ||
| So all of a sudden, I love that Pop one. | ||
| I still do. | ||
| I was just playing it before I got here. | ||
| Another guy contacted me from Caveman Studios. | ||
| This guy, Lon. | ||
| He goes, look, I love how enthusiastic you are. | ||
| Try this game in beta testing. | ||
| So it's not even out yet. | ||
| It's coming out at the end of the month. | ||
| Contractors Showdown. | ||
| Fucking money! | ||
| I don't play anything but Pop 1. Am I getting off the subject? | ||
| We should talk about MMA. We haven't even got to MMA. Listen, holy shit. | ||
| It's like Warzone. | ||
| It's like Call of Duty Warzone. | ||
| I love the Battle Royale format where it's like a squad and then everybody gets brought in together and you gotta take each other out. | ||
| That's cool. | ||
| That's Pop 1. Technically it's Fortnite, not to sound like a nerd. | ||
| This shit! | ||
| Contractor Showdown! | ||
| Fucking nerdgasm. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| It's so much fun. | ||
| You're parachuting in? | ||
| No, listen. | ||
| This is the deal. | ||
| You parachute out. | ||
| Now, when you go, you loot up, right? | ||
| You get money. | ||
| You get shit. | ||
| You wrap your hands? | ||
| What the fuck? | ||
| Well, he must have had some damage. | ||
| He had to heal up a little bit. | ||
| So you're fixing to go to war. | ||
| You got money. | ||
| Yeah, you get your boys, and then you're like, look. | ||
| I don't know about that nerd, but look. | ||
| Look, now that you see the perimeter, dude, everybody gets brought in, you get scopes, you put it on, you get money, you can buy stuff, put it on, and you're taking these guys out, you're sniping them. | ||
| And this is all in virtual reality. | ||
| It's in virtual reality. | ||
| It's fucking cool, dude. | ||
| That guy likes it, though! | ||
| You should get a new job reviewing VR games. | ||
| That's not a bad idea, actually. | ||
| It's so much fun. | ||
| Imagine if you had a YouTube channel? | ||
| People would love watching him review a game. | ||
| That's actually a great idea. | ||
| He wouldn't do it, though. | ||
| Just video him playing the game. | ||
| Just get someone to film him. | ||
| He probably won't do it, but get someone to do it. | ||
| That's a fun game. | ||
| You should get the UFC to do that. | ||
| Do you still do the thing with Jimmy? | ||
| Yeah, man! | ||
| Me and Jimmy, twice a week. | ||
| UFC unfiltered Why don't you get the UFC to just film you doing that too as well - I don't know. | ||
| Dana, are you listening, motherfucker? | ||
| Dude, it's a no-miss. | ||
| You'd be fucking awesome at that. | ||
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You really love these things, your character. | |
| I mean, look how enthusiastic he is about it anyway. | ||
| Yeah, you should 100% be reviewing games. | ||
| It's so funny, because that could be very sad normally when a 50-year-old's fucking... | ||
| I'm going to be 50 this year. | ||
| Last time I was on here, they did a thing called My Dad is a Gamer, and they had me on there fucking being sick. | ||
| My daughter's watched! | ||
| I love that shit. | ||
| It's fun. | ||
| It's harmless. | ||
| Since I've known you, you've been on it. | ||
| It's harmless if you can control it. | ||
| But they're so fun, you'll wind up wasting your whole life playing video games. | ||
| My thing is, everything's about balance, like passing the guard, you know? | ||
| I feel like I deserve it at the end of the day. | ||
| If I go, I do a 7 a.m. | ||
| class. | ||
| I fucking do my podcast. | ||
| I go back. | ||
| I'm rolling with my wife. | ||
| I had a full day. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I deserve two hours. | ||
| No, an hour. | ||
| A couple games. | ||
| Three hours. | ||
| Yeah, no, you definitely do. | ||
| But you're a disciplined man. | ||
| Well, it's fun. | ||
| But you're a disciplined man. | ||
| Most people don't have that type of discipline. | ||
| Yeah, but you're an accomplished martial artist. | ||
| You run a business. | ||
| You have a family. | ||
| So much fun. | ||
| You're a disciplined man. | ||
| If you're just a fucking dorky kid who just has a job and that's all you fucking do. | ||
| It's the same thing with the reefer. | ||
| If you're a guy doing stuff every day and you're smoking, it could help you. | ||
| But if you're in that commercial when they're blowing the shit out the window, Hey Ma, the guy's gonna call me back. | ||
| I left a message for the job. | ||
| That's a problem. | ||
| Like, you know what I mean? | ||
| If you're 30 years old, you're living at home, you're fucking... | ||
| But, you know, everything is how you use it. | ||
| Back to... | ||
| What is that? | ||
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There's a Star Wars mod for contractors. | |
| And women always win. | ||
| You gotta be a woman character. | ||
| - What is Contractors? | ||
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- I know. | |
| - What is it now? | ||
| - He said you gotta be a woman character. - 'Cause the women always win. - Contractors is a game that's all been out forever. | ||
| I'm not really into it, but the Contractors Showdown is coming out at the end of the month, and that's the Battle Royale version. | ||
| Nerd. | ||
| My wife hears me talking about this online, and she's like, you fucking have no idea. | ||
| You know, she loves me, but it could be a turn-off, I'm sure. | ||
| Yeah, I don't think it turns them on. | ||
| It's not a panty dropper. | ||
| It's not the ultimate panty dropper. | ||
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You know what fuck it is? | |
| Hold on. | ||
| Oh, here it is. | ||
| Look at the abs, son. | ||
| I'm back to gluten-free. | ||
| I think the Zen thing is making me crazy. | ||
| It's making you crazy. | ||
| It's hyping you up. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| It's good. | ||
| I'm going to give you another one in five minutes. | ||
| No, don't do that. | ||
| The problem is this. | ||
| I start the day. | ||
| Me and him went out to eat last night. | ||
| We went to the Brazilian joint. | ||
| And I didn't eat since, because I've got to clear out, because I've got issues. | ||
| So I woke up, and I had the water, and I had a double shot of espresso. | ||
| And I was a little down last night, because I had too much, whatever, edible. | ||
| So I was a little like, I hope I'm not like this tomorrow. | ||
| So I had a five hour energy. | ||
| And now I had that and the coffee, so this is what you get. | ||
| And it's on. | ||
| I'm having fun. | ||
| You were talking about coming up with a name for us. | ||
| Yeah, we need a name. | ||
| We need a name. | ||
| A cool Star Wars name. | ||
| Nerdgasm. | ||
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How about we just call it Cucks? | |
| Just so no one can say shit about us. | ||
| That's not bad. | ||
| That's not bad. | ||
| Cucks. | ||
| That's actually kind of funny. | ||
| I was going to say like the OGs, but that's too serious. | ||
| That's too serious. | ||
| Cucks might actually work. | ||
| I like cucks. | ||
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Cucks? | |
| It's not bad. | ||
| It's not bad. | ||
| It is ridiculous. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know? | ||
| You want to be cucks? | ||
| I kind of like it. | ||
| I don't want to be a cuck. | ||
| I think I'm kind of enjoying that. | ||
| Let's placeholder it. | ||
| Put it aside. | ||
| Put a bookmark on it. | ||
| Come back to it later in the day. | ||
| See how we feel in an hour. | ||
| Should we take a poll? | ||
| No, you don't want to let the people be involved. | ||
| They're going to hijack that shit. | ||
| We're going to be cucks for sure. | ||
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That will not be a fair vote. | |
| They would try to get us. | ||
| Johnny, you had one first. | ||
| You were like the four horsemen? | ||
| Oh, Jesus. | ||
| That was a long time ago. | ||
| I have a weird memory. | ||
| I remember weird shit. | ||
| Yeah, that was... | ||
| Because I remember I'm the furthest thing from a horseman. | ||
| I'm not exactly a fucking... | ||
| You need help getting a horse. | ||
| You know what the problem is? | ||
| You'll be on a stallion and me and Joe will be on like ponies and shit. | ||
| You'll be on a mini horse. | ||
| I want to be on a sturdy mule. | ||
| I was watching a mule biting a fucking hyena. | ||
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They use them to bite wolves and coyotes and shit. | |
| Mules are mean, man. | ||
| They're fucking mean. | ||
| They're smart. | ||
| Mules. | ||
| Mules. | ||
| They'll use them to protect the herd and shit. | ||
| What? | ||
| Mules are so much smarter than horses. | ||
| People like them when they travel through the mountains because a mule won't go anywhere where it's not safe. | ||
| A mule will go, uh-uh, bitch. | ||
| I know better. | ||
| I'm not going over there. | ||
| That edge is too steep. | ||
| We're falling. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| A horse is just like... | ||
| Horses just go right off the edge, man. | ||
| They just listen. | ||
| You gotta not stand behind those motherfuckers, though. | ||
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Horses? | |
| Whip! | ||
| Either one of them. | ||
| A mule? | ||
| Either one. | ||
| Horse kick you? | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| I watched a horse kill another horse. | ||
| No. | ||
| Yeah, in a video. | ||
| Online. | ||
| That's what I'm talking about! | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| I'll spit up my coffee. | ||
| That's a donkey. | ||
| What'd I say? | ||
| They don't fuck around. | ||
| A mule. | ||
| A mule is a cross. | ||
| What's the difference? | ||
| A mule is a cross between a horse and a donkey. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| And they're not viable. | ||
| Yeah, but wouldn't you think that the hyena would fuck this thing up? | ||
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Really? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, you would think so, but it looks like that hyena is fucking tranquilized. | ||
|
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Something. | |
| Because they're videotaping this. | ||
|
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It almost looks like they're playing. | |
| Yeah, maybe it does look like they're playing. | ||
| That doesn't seem very playful. | ||
| That seems pretty violent on the donkey's part. | ||
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It's like Hawaii playing, but he's not... | |
| I don't know, man. | ||
| I don't think they play like that. | ||
| I think it recognizes that that's a predator and it wants it to fuck away from it. | ||
| Yeah, that's what I think it is, man. | ||
| And that thing's trying to bite it. | ||
| Like, what is going on here? | ||
| It's three and a half, four minutes of it. | ||
| Bro, this is some gay shit. | ||
| I know, right? | ||
| They're sniffing assholes. | ||
| Maybe they're our friends. | ||
| Maybe I'm out of line. | ||
| Maybe they're friends. | ||
| Maybe the hyena and the donkey will get along, but probably not. | ||
| They're fucking predator and prey animals. | ||
| Yeah, right. | ||
| But if they kick you, man, so there's a video of these beautiful horses, man, and they're in this corral, and this one horse just starts kicking, and he just kicks the other horse in the head, and the head- And it dies? | ||
| Like it dies right then and there? | ||
| It dies like it got shot, like plop! | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Just falls down, legs stiff. | ||
| Killed it. | ||
| There's times I'm in the fucking bathroom like an hour at a clip in the middle of the night. | ||
| All I do is watch those fucking Animals on Animals fucking... | ||
| Nature's Metal. | ||
| You know all the Facebook videos? | ||
| I'm either watching like the world-style hip-hop fights. | ||
| I watch that more than regular fights. | ||
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I don't know why. | |
| Because they're more fun. | ||
| I saw one today. | ||
| I don't think we could play it. | ||
| It probably violates rules. | ||
| But this dude is on the ground and he's basically like fighting this guy. | ||
| He's got a helmet on. | ||
| It looks like there was some sort of a traffic altercation. | ||
| And the guy who's on the ground has a dude and he's like setting up a heel hook. | ||
| And the guy's trying to attack him. | ||
| And then the other guy comes over and punches him and then they separate him. | ||
| And when they separated him, the dude who's on the ground, who's like holding the guy like he's gonna set up a heel hook, pulls a gun out and shoots him in the dick. | ||
| Oh my god! | ||
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Yes. | |
| Just like this. | ||
| Boom! | ||
| Shoots him in the dick. | ||
|
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Oh! | |
| What the fuck? | ||
| Bro, it's rough. | ||
| Wanna watch it? | ||
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Absolutely! | |
| 100%, right? | ||
| There's some things you can't unsee. | ||
| Yeah, but you never ask. | ||
| Yeah, but you gotta see this. | ||
| It's so funny, man. | ||
| You gotta see it because I had to watch it because it's an Instagram reel. | ||
| I had to watch it a couple of times just to try to figure out what exactly was going on. | ||
| I always like to see what's going on out there, you know? | ||
| I always like to... | ||
| No, no. | ||
| Hold on a second. | ||
| Oh, good. | ||
| Get us, get us score with some other shit, Jamie. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Hold on a second. | |
| Was this chick up there last time or am I fucking crazy? | ||
| Yeah, she's always on. | ||
| Okay, I sent it to you. | ||
| Okay, this is the horse. | ||
| Watch this. | ||
| So this horse, it just kicks that horse's head. | ||
| Boom. | ||
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Dead. | |
| Is it dead? | ||
| Yep, dead. | ||
| Look at his legs. | ||
| Good lord. | ||
| It died. | ||
| Look at his legs. | ||
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Oh! | |
| Wow! | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Bro, you get hit by one of those, you might as well get shot. | ||
| That's a hoof at the end of an 800-pounder beast. | ||
| Okay, now show the guy getting shot in the dick. | ||
| Did you ever try horse meat, by the way? | ||
| Is it good? | ||
| It tastes like wild game. | ||
| I tried it in Montreal. | ||
| There's this amazing restaurant in Montreal called Joe Beef. | ||
| And me and Duncan and Ari ate there. | ||
| And they served you... | ||
| They had horse tartare. | ||
| So it's essentially raw horse. | ||
| And then they had, like, a horse filet. | ||
| They served us horse filet. | ||
| I was like, wow, this is weird. | ||
| You know who used to eat horse meat? | ||
| Patrick Cote. | ||
| Remember when he was in the house? | ||
| Yeah, we used to get a list of what we could put on there, what we wanted, and he put horse meat on his list, and we was like, what the fuck? | ||
| Smart. | ||
| He knew nobody would fuck with it. | ||
| That's all those dudes up north in Canada, you know? | ||
| He's a Montreal guy. | ||
| I almost don't want to see this, bro. | ||
| Yeah, you do. | ||
|
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Yeah, you do. | |
| So watch this. | ||
|
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Why are you saying that? | |
| So this guy... | ||
| This has got to be Brazil. | ||
| I don't know, but look. | ||
| See, the other guy comes over and kicks him. | ||
| They push him away. | ||
| Now watch this. | ||
| Keep an eye on the guy on the bottom. | ||
| He's got a gun? | ||
| Yep, watch here. | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| No, no, no, no, no, no, no. | ||
|
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Oh, fuck. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Wait, is he still fighting? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Whoa. | ||
| Whoa. | ||
| I mean, whoa. | ||
| He's a eunuch. | ||
|
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Whoa. | |
| And the best is, it looks like they're doing a little, alright. | ||
| That's definitely Brazil. | ||
| That guy's got a stripe or two on his back. | ||
| But I don't think that could be just... | ||
| Oh, fuck! | ||
| Come on, man! | ||
| Bro, bro, bro, bro. | ||
| Dude, keep that shit between you and Tom Segura. | ||
| I don't need to see that shit. | ||
| I don't want to be part of that fucking text. | ||
| Oh, man, that shit hurt me. | ||
| It hurt me just to watch it. | ||
|
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Fuck. | |
| Oh, no. | ||
| You gotta wonder what other damage that did. | ||
| Oh, it's over. | ||
| Oh, what other damage? | ||
| You lost his dick, Raul. | ||
| I think he lost everything. | ||
| He lost a lot. | ||
| That bullet probably blew his hip apart. | ||
| You gotta really try to avoid everything in the street. | ||
| Everything. | ||
| Everything. | ||
| That's what I always tell Dean Thomas, the troublemaker. | ||
| What? | ||
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I always gotta stop him from fighting. | |
| That's not true. | ||
| Dean does mellow me out, though. | ||
| Yeah, I gotta stop him. | ||
| Every time we do a show, he almost gets in a fight. | ||
| First of all, first of all, not true. | ||
| But second of all, we did that fucking cold plunge. | ||
| Let me ask you something about the degrees of that, because I'm thinking about adding this into my routine. | ||
| The cold punch? | ||
| I swear, man, because I start my day with a steam. | ||
| I'm thinking about putting a small one in my locker room upstairs in my thing. | ||
| But it was fucking brutal, is what it was. | ||
| When we did it, it was 32 degrees? | ||
| 34. Okay, I'm trying to make it worse. | ||
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34 for three minutes. | |
| Is that pussy shit? | ||
| No, that's normal. | ||
| Yeah, that's what I do every day. | ||
| 34? | ||
| 34. Three minutes every day. | ||
| That was fucking... | ||
| I do it before my workout. | ||
| But did you... | ||
| Alright, next question is, did you build up to that? | ||
| Yes. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Two days? | ||
| Two days to build up to that? | ||
| The third day I did 20 minutes. | ||
| Stop. | ||
| No, I did. | ||
| I filmed it. | ||
| At 34? | ||
| At 34 degrees. | ||
| Yeah, I wanted to see how long it could go. | ||
| That's pretty crazy. | ||
| Well, look. | ||
| You know somebody watch? | ||
| All I know is, no, nobody's watching. | ||
| We handled it differently. | ||
| Yeah, we sure did. | ||
| He was quiet and then once in a while you hear like a Goggins come out of him like I can handle this Fucking I just wouldn't shut the fuck up He wouldn't shut the fuck up. | ||
| I was thinking to myself, he shut the fuck up, I can't concentrate in this. | ||
| I had to keep myself, I wanted to jump the fuck out. | ||
| And Dana was right there. | ||
| Did he do it? | ||
| He did it. | ||
| How long? | ||
| But he does it every day. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| I'm pretty sure he told me he does it at like 50 degrees. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Alright. | ||
| What the fuck is happening? | ||
| Is it okay to do it at 50 degrees? | ||
| Yeah, it's okay. | ||
| Look, it's still cold. | ||
| I don't think it has the same amount of an effect, probably, but I'm just guessing. | ||
| It might be the same thing. | ||
| If you did like 50 degrees for like five minutes, maybe that's the same as like 34 degrees for three minutes or two minutes. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Well, then I'll do that. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| It was brutal. | ||
| I like the part where I don't want to do it and then I do it. | ||
| I like that. | ||
| Yeah, and you do it in the morning? | ||
| First time. | ||
| Like, how do you do that in the morning? | ||
| Like, that's the last thing that I want to do when I wake up. | ||
| Probably the best time. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| That's why you do it. | ||
| You do it. | ||
| It's easy. | ||
| It's an easy win. | ||
| It's over and done. | ||
| It's an easy win. | ||
| Imagine if all day you were thinking about, oh, I got to do it. | ||
| I got to get it in and get it done. | ||
| It's also, you know you don't want to do it, and yet you did it. | ||
| So it's an easy win. | ||
| Well, I felt like that after we finished. | ||
| So I bought one, but I purposely didn't put it together yet. | ||
| Just so I didn't have to do it. | ||
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Just got it. | |
| Just so I had to look at that motherfucker and make myself look like a bitch. | ||
| That's awesome. | ||
| I think it's an easy thing to add to my morning routine. | ||
| Because I have a nice routine as it is. | ||
| I start at 7 a.m. | ||
| I do that class. | ||
| I get up at 5. I get there early. | ||
| I get my head straight and I get in the steam. | ||
| That nice steam after that. | ||
| So I don't... | ||
| You know... | ||
| I like getting my head straight, but I don't like smelling bad, so I like to, like, afterwards. | ||
| I'm just, I'm in this, I'm zen mode, man. | ||
| And I'm caffeined up. | ||
| Now you're in zen mode. | ||
| I see what you did there. | ||
| I like that. | ||
| I might get into that shit. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| As long as I'm not fucking craving, like, Marlboros if I get off this shit or something. | ||
| I'm not going to want to fucking want nicotine, am I? Or need it? | ||
| Well, just don't get it. | ||
| What? | ||
| Don't get more of it. | ||
| I'm saying if I stop the zit, am I going to want more of it? | ||
| Well, I don't know how your body works, but a lot of people get addicted to it. | ||
| Well, thanks for turning me on to it, you fucking crack pusher. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| It's good for you. | ||
| Is it good for you, though? | ||
| I think it's good for your brain. | ||
| Well, then there you go. | ||
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I'm on it. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| But I think, you know, you got to be careful if you're one of those guys. | ||
| Well, I mean, how many of them do you take a day? | ||
| Yeah, talk to me, Jamie. | ||
| Look out for me. | ||
| Nicotine prevents the formation in the test tube of protein clumps linked to Alzheimer's disease, scientists announced at a press conference today. | ||
| The finding may provide a useful starting point for developing drugs that delay or prevent the disease. | ||
| Research is quick to caution, however, that harmful effects of smoking, strengthened by a report in science last week, linking a carcinogen byproduct of cigarette smoke to a specific kind of lung tumor, far outweigh any possible benefit from nicotine and tobacco. | ||
| But what they're saying is, don't smoke. | ||
| But the nicotine itself? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think nicotine itself... | ||
| Nicotine definitely is a nootropic, right? | ||
| Like, if you can Google that. | ||
| So it's a substance that's been shown to enhance cognitive function. | ||
| It's one of the things that, like, Stephen King said when he stopped smoking. | ||
| He said that was one of the hardest things for his writing. | ||
| He said, like, his synapses didn't fire as fast. | ||
| Oh, what does this say? | ||
| Nicotine's cognitive effects have gained significant attention in recent decades, and some non-smokers have even started using nicotine gum or patches as a nootropic. | ||
| Research has shown that nicotine can speed up reaction time, improve working memory, and enhance focus and attention. | ||
| What? | ||
| Dude? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You got me! | ||
| I know! | ||
| You got me! | ||
| Watch me in VR now! | ||
| I'm gonna fucking kill everybody! | ||
| Let's get ready to say, take it before you play. | ||
| That's nice, man. | ||
| I might fuck around with that. | ||
| Interesting, right? | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Yeah, man, as long as it's... | ||
| I think I'm going to go up with the alpha brain. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| I'm interested in anything that gives you a positive effect on your brain. | ||
| Or also, what about dick pills? | ||
| Anything that has a positive effect on your life. | ||
| You know? | ||
| It's fun to party. | ||
| Yeah, I used to take the Alpha Brain all the time. | ||
| Then I ran out and forgot. | ||
| Oh, we'll get you some. | ||
| We'll get you some. | ||
| I'll get some sent to you. | ||
| But all those other ones are really good, too. | ||
| That Neuro One shit, that stuff's great. | ||
| You can put it in a protein shake. | ||
| Or you can just drink by itself, taste good. | ||
| There's a bunch of them. | ||
| How many of the Zen things would you do a day? | ||
| Like one? | ||
| It takes me a few days to go through one packet. | ||
| I don't know how many is in a packet. | ||
| Oh, so would you take more than one a day? | ||
| Yeah, I'll take one, two, three a day, four a day if I feel like it, yeah. | ||
| And you feel a difference? | ||
| Yeah, but I do like to know that I can take days off. | ||
| I take days off, I'm like, how do I feel? | ||
| I feel fine. | ||
| You do feel fine? | ||
| I don't feel weird. | ||
| Do you use it before a podcast or before you do a show? | ||
| I like it during podcasts. | ||
| So you see, it has to have a purpose. | ||
| This is also the same reason why I drink coffee a lot. | ||
| I'm trying to keep my brain going if I'm talking to really smart people. | ||
| I was happy when I saw that guy and he was telling me what I should... | ||
| Because I got my... | ||
| Did I tell you? | ||
| So I took the shit in the box. | ||
| Oh yeah, the shit in the box. | ||
| Stop that story. | ||
| Oh, I'm sorry. | ||
| Get back to the shit in the box. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| So after I saw the guy and he gave me the sample, I go, all right, listen, I'm going to knock this thing out. | ||
| It took me a while. | ||
| It was months before I did it. | ||
| But then I find... | ||
| Now, real quick, does the shit in the box go to a doctor or to a holistic doctor? | ||
| No, they come and pick it up and then they go to a lab and then he gets the results. | ||
| Is this for a doctor's doctor? | ||
| So he gets the results from it. | ||
| We wanted to find out what's the definition of holistic. | ||
| The problem might be in just that people have co-opted that term and use that term holistic for a bunch of hippie shit. | ||
| But a holistic doctor... | ||
| I'm telling you. | ||
| Holistic approach. | ||
| What is the exact definition of holistic? | ||
| And I said, I can smell bullshit. | ||
| You know, when I met the guy, I'm like, again, I was expecting half a hippie, and he seemed... | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Characterized by the belief that the parts of something are interconnected and can be explained only by reference to the whole. | ||
| Well, that's logical. | ||
| Here's a medicine definition. | ||
| Characterized as a treatment of the whole person, taking into account mental and social factors rather than just the symptoms of an illness. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Many people conclude that holistic medicines are beneficial. | ||
| So, the problem is not... | ||
| Like, when I hear that word, holistic, I think bullshit art. | ||
| Already, just hippies, fucking... | ||
| But if you're talking about medicine, it totally makes sense. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| It's just, it's been co-opted. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's a good word. | ||
| We were doing a Zoom thing with me... | ||
| Him and my wife, you know, because he wanted her there because, you know, I'm like a bad kid. | ||
| I don't want to eat vegetables. | ||
| And I don't know what he's going to tell me to eat and shit. | ||
| I don't like eating bad... | ||
| You know, I'm picky my eating. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So I was afraid what he was going to tell me. | ||
| So when we went on there, he was showing me all the stuff that... | ||
| Well first, let me tell you how I took the shit first. | ||
| So I was afraid of taking the shit because you never know how it comes out and I was really like, I didn't know where to do it. | ||
| So I went to my... | ||
| You guys don't have to hear about it. | ||
| You're in now. | ||
| So I go to my school. | ||
| I like to keep stuff somewhat spicy with me and my wife, so I don't want to do that. | ||
| My house guy forbid it goes all over. | ||
| So I go to my shower at my school, right? | ||
| And I'm basically... | ||
| Thank goodness it wasn't all over the place. | ||
| And I was doing more of like a standing... | ||
| I was almost like a rodeo rider. | ||
| So you're catching it? | ||
| You really gotta make sure your wrist stays parallel. | ||
| Yeah, could you imagine? | ||
| For real. | ||
| If you get a little accidental dip in your shit, then you gotta scoop that back off the tile. | ||
| You know what's bad about it? | ||
|
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Everything. | |
| Everything. | ||
| There's nothing good about it. | ||
| But I have to know what's going on with my gut. | ||
| So after I took the shit, you gotta, it's almost like, and it really ruined my love of Nutella, because I used to always like the fucking little scoops with the, because you gotta take a little spoon, In your shit, and he goes, make sure you get different signs of it. | ||
| There's a watery part of this. | ||
| So I'm in there, and you gotta put it in a little vial. | ||
| And gossip is... | ||
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You guys wanted to hear about it. | |
| So after that, you take it, you shake it off. | ||
| And then you put it in an envelope and you ship it off. | ||
| So that was the story of that. | ||
| And then when they seen the stuff that was highlighted in the red zone, like what is going to be affecting my gut? | ||
| I think he said there was like a parasite thing in there. | ||
| You had spaghetti. | ||
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There was like a parasite. | |
| I don't know what the fuck. | ||
| He goes, do you have animals? | ||
| I'm like, no, I don't fucking have animals. | ||
| I don't know what the fuck. | ||
| But there was also like a big bacteria in there, you know? | ||
| So the clear of that bacteria, I'm drinking a shake, this thorn-type shake. | ||
| I don't know if it's called thorn, but it's that. | ||
| And I'm on different supplements from... | ||
| I don't eat vegetables, so there's these... | ||
| I got these four green pills. | ||
| You got me on supplements and... | ||
| We'll see how it goes. | ||
| It's fresh. | ||
| It's only like a weekend. | ||
| Because it took me forever to do that shit in the box. | ||
| So I'll let you know how it works. | ||
| I don't know how it is yet. | ||
| Ari Shafir was on Legion of Skanks, this podcast they do. | ||
| So they film it live in front of an audience. | ||
| And Ari had taken a shit in a Tupperware. | ||
| And brought it on stage. | ||
| Who'd he give it to? | ||
| Luis Gomez? | ||
|
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No, why? | |
| Who'd he give it to? | ||
| Big J? Yeah, birthday surprise. | ||
| It was a birthday surprise. | ||
|
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Oh, no. | |
| Ari is out of his fucking mind, dude. | ||
| So, he opens up. | ||
| They open up this Tupperware, and the smell is just... | ||
| No, come on. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
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People start running out of the room. | |
| Good Lord. | ||
| Is there a video of that? | ||
| There's nothing worse than the smell of human shit. | ||
| I don't know if that'd be it. | ||
| In a Tupperware for days. | ||
| Yours is bad enough. | ||
| Mine's bad enough. | ||
| Like, when you take a horrific shit, and then someone in your family goes in there after you, and you're like, I'm so sorry. | ||
| I'm sorry, Menas, but I'm gonna do it. | ||
| You met my boy Menas. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| We were in California. | ||
| We were hanging out. | ||
| We hit one of them Del Tacos. | ||
| So the food was fucking alright. | ||
| He's got to take a shit. | ||
| He comes out of the fucking bathroom, dry heaving, his eyes watering from his own shit. | ||
| That was the fucking... | ||
| You know me too. | ||
| That amazed me. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| This motherfucker come out. | ||
| I'm talking. | ||
| He was like... | ||
| His eyes are watering. | ||
| It was his own shit, man. | ||
| What's the name of his diner? | ||
| Valentino's. | ||
| Love it. | ||
| Bro, that is hilarious. | ||
| Your own shit is so bad, you're dry heaving. | ||
| Oh, come on! | ||
| This is it! | ||
| Oh, no! | ||
| Wait, go from the beginning. | ||
| Go from the beginning. | ||
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I don't think you'll see it. | |
| Oh, Jesus. | ||
| Look at his smile. | ||
| Is that Mickey Gall? | ||
| Bro, I'm gagging just looking at that. | ||
| That's disgusting. | ||
| That's Mickey Gall right there. | ||
| It looks like Mickey Gall. | ||
| I think it is Mickey. | ||
| I think it is Mickey. | ||
| Dude I legit almost threw up. | ||
| Did you see that Jamie? | ||
| I legit almost threw up. | ||
| I can't look at that. | ||
| Get that off the screen and it will throw up. | ||
| How about Ari not able to look away from it? | ||
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I know, right? | |
| He looks like a proud dad. | ||
| He's fucking smiling Like a brown dad Oh my god Look at him It is funny though He's a psycho He's the best Ari is the best. | ||
| He's such a psycho. | ||
| He's crazy. | ||
| Is he still training? | ||
| Nah, he fucked his knee up. | ||
| Fucked his knee up then quit. | ||
| He trained for a little bit though. | ||
| Got a brand new knee. | ||
| Everybody's tapping out now. | ||
| They got their fucking knees. | ||
| Me too. | ||
| Well, you're still rolling, even with the new knee, right? | ||
| I am, but I'm a little more choosy. | ||
| Does it have the same stability? | ||
| I lost you for a second. | ||
| What's that? | ||
| Does it have the same stability? | ||
| Like, what is it like? | ||
| The problem is, I was rolling with one of my buddies Abe, my black belt Abe, and I'd always meet up with him because we have nice training sessions. | ||
| And it's not, I don't think it's my knee as much. | ||
| Remember I told you I tore my quad in the rehab? | ||
| Like I was stepping down too high and I tore that shit, so it's a little deformed. | ||
| And I went to butterfly sweep them. | ||
| And when I went to butterfly sweep them, something popped on the outside. | ||
| Like if I show you my leg, it's something on that knee. | ||
| And I don't know what I strained or what I pulled. | ||
| I don't know what MCLs I have left. | ||
| I don't know what the fuck's there. | ||
| But it felt weak for a bit after that. | ||
| So I haven't rolled super hard since. | ||
| And that was over a month ago. | ||
| Do you do any of that like knees over toes stuff? | ||
| I heard about that, man. | ||
| I've seen guys do it and it seems like it works. | ||
| It does work. | ||
| There's a guy, Knees over toes guy on Instagram, and this dude had gone through a bunch of knee surgeries and, you know, like real problems and realized that part of the problem was he wasn't strengthening all the stabilizing muscles all in and around his knee. | ||
| With like tibia raises and with those step downs and walking backwards on a treadmill. | ||
| Backwards with a sled too. | ||
| Yeah, and Nordic curls when you're lying on your chest and you bring your body up only with your legs. | ||
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Hamstrings. | |
| Crazy. | ||
| Yeah, with your hamstrings. | ||
| I do those every day. | ||
| I do those too on a slant board. | ||
| Yeah, I have a slant board. | ||
| But those Nordic curls are so fucking hard to do. | ||
| Like when you first do it, you're like, oh my god, this is crazy. | ||
| Dude, they're super hard to do. | ||
| So the whole idea is about strengthening all the muscles that stabilize the knee, and most people are just using the leg, and they're hoping that all that work gets done. | ||
| But if you really want to make your legs really strong, where the knees are really stable, you really want to do things that stabilize that. | ||
| I mean, think about how much of a knee injury puts you out. | ||
| Every elite athlete should be doing this kind of shit. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Like, I have pretty bad patella tendinitis in my left knee, and it's helped pretty much eliminate it. | ||
| Yeah, it's pretty impressive stuff, and this guy gives it all away for free because his philosophy was, look, if I was an 11-year-old that had a knee injury, I would want this available to me. | ||
| And so he's a fucking awesome guy. | ||
| He's been on the podcast before. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| I gotta start doing that shit. | ||
| But his stuff is rock solid, man. | ||
| I mean, my knees feel so much better when doing that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Split squats. | ||
| Slant board, body weight squats. | ||
| I do a hundred of those every day. | ||
| I do the Nordic curls. | ||
| I do all that shit. | ||
| That's where I got to get on that slant board and step off and touch your heel to the floor, too. | ||
| Yeah, that's great. | ||
| I got to be more disciplined with that shit. | ||
| You use the sled, the backwards, walking backwards with the sled? | ||
| I'll do it for like 10 minutes. | ||
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Amazing. | |
| Throw a couple plates on and just... | ||
| Back and forth, back and forth. | ||
| So that worked, because I got no meniscus in my left knee. | ||
| And I just always feel the bone grinding. | ||
| We were talking about the cadaver meniscus. | ||
| They do do that now. | ||
| You looked in any like Gel 1 or Synvisc 2, like sometimes you can get a shot that'll help with some of that. | ||
| It only lasts four to six months, but it's better than having your knee grind. | ||
| I got one of those once and it didn't really seem to help me. | ||
| Didn't help you? | ||
| No. | ||
| Yeah, mine I liked and then I got the stem cells. | ||
| But I've talked to people that had no meniscus at all and they got one of those things and I was like my knee was brand new again for months. | ||
| I had a guy, he's a firefighter, my buddy Carl, his knee was jacked and he's the one that told me about the gel one and all and he was doing it and it allowed him to come back and train and everything and eventually insurance wouldn't pay for the shot but they would pay for his knee replacement. | ||
| It's so crazy. | ||
| Instead of a $1,500 shot, they'll play 50 Gs. | ||
| It's a scam. | ||
| Such a joke. | ||
| The thing with those knees, though, me and you last night, I'm not doing that without my new knee. | ||
| Walking around town, I'm not doing that. | ||
| I'd go to Tropicana for a fight, and I'd be with my buddy, and we'd have to stop every... | ||
| How many feet? | ||
| I'm like, y'all, we gotta chill. | ||
| He's like, dude, it's time. | ||
| I couldn't walk. | ||
| So now, I'm back. | ||
| That's why I'm not getting the other one done until I have to. | ||
| My problem was anytime I would injure something, I would not give it enough time. | ||
| I would get stem cells. | ||
| I think that's everybody's. | ||
| I would not give it enough time. | ||
| And I'd be like, it's good enough. | ||
| And then it would get aggravated again. | ||
| It's like, goddammit, now it's chronic. | ||
| See, I don't like to do all those exercises and shit. | ||
| I think I'm scarred from all that. | ||
| The only way I like to stay in shape... | ||
| Get some training camp. | ||
| Training camp. | ||
| Longo had some old school shit. | ||
| I did so many. | ||
| Longo's the best. | ||
| I love Ray Longo. | ||
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You two would be the greatest reality show of all time. | |
| Oh my god. | ||
| You ain't kidding. | ||
| I love Longo. | ||
| What am I, UFC producer? | ||
| Here's another one. | ||
| You two. | ||
| Imagine that. | ||
| Longo's one of a kind, Longo. | ||
| He's one of my favorite people. | ||
| Longo's just an old school guy. | ||
| Never had a contract with anybody. | ||
| Just always is there helping people for the right reasons. | ||
| Not just to get his face in there. | ||
| Nowadays, there's a bunch of fucking whores out there. | ||
| He's just a real man. | ||
| He's a real man. | ||
| I fucking love that guy. | ||
| But I love the two of you together. | ||
| When you guys were in the corner, it's fucking amazing. | ||
| There's no corner in MMA like that one. | ||
| It's so fun. | ||
| But it's also rock-solid information. | ||
| We keep it very simple. | ||
| And it's just crazy nowadays. | ||
| It's a little weird now with the whole team, man. | ||
| Times change and stuff, but everybody's out in Vegas now. | ||
| The whole team's like... | ||
| I mean, everybody's doing well, so we're all happy for everybody, but like... | ||
| Vegas is very tempting for young fighters and it's and I don't blame them like well the facility really I think is gonna pull people out the PI all your food is taken care of and you have the most sophisticated training environment Available on earth and if there's something better they're gonna get it whatever the fuck it is and they say I mean it's a beautiful thing I think it's fantastic the only thing I think it sucks for is that you have these guys who are coming up and Yeah, | ||
| I think... | ||
| And it's not his fault either. | ||
| He just is there, and it just makes sense. | ||
| But I think in a perfect world, they collaborate. | ||
| And then they're both there. | ||
| I think in a perfect world, that's how you do it, right? | ||
| I mean, that's what Greg Jackson and Farah Sahabi and all those guys did when they were trading fighters back and forth, and they all trained together. | ||
| That's the way to do it. | ||
| But you never leave your original team if they're good. | ||
| If it works out and you have a relationship with them, you figure it out together. | ||
| Unless you're trapped in a too small of an environment and your coach is just not able to fit the needs of like, you know, there's some guys that are just super talented, but they start out in the middle of nowhere. | ||
| And, you know, they don't have a real good gym. | ||
| The guy doesn't really know the high level shit. | ||
| I think that's the best thing ever for the fighters. | ||
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It's sick. | |
| Yeah, I'm in Vegas all the time, and I'm working with all kind of fighters, and I would never ask anybody to leave their team. | ||
| In fact, I'm like, listen, I'll give you any information you want, but you can't leave your team. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| I'm not taking you. | ||
| I don't want you. | ||
| Good. | ||
| Beautiful. | ||
| Also, taxes. | ||
| They save money with taxes out there. | ||
| It's very designed. | ||
| But it also creates a conflict where the conflict's not necessary, right? | ||
| It's because he's for sure getting new information. | ||
| Guys are getting new information from Nixick. | ||
| Getting new information from training with everybody. | ||
| You're on a path, but you're on a path with the people that you started the path with. | ||
| Right, yeah. | ||
| Even if you're in this new place, maybe you're enhancing your education, you're getting better at fighting. | ||
| You're still... | ||
| Those are your people. | ||
| And you want what's best for them if you really care for them. | ||
| But at the same time... | ||
| What did you sign up for? | ||
| What did I sign up for? | ||
| Like, I'm not gonna be in a corner with somebody, and I could like them, but, you know, me and Longo, what we did is with me and Longo, some local kids, there's a time when it's like, alright, Al's from Wantor, Weidman's from Baldwin, they're all local kids. | ||
| Who's fighting? | ||
| This one's taking out the best of Brazil, this one's, we're going to Australia, Al's fucking up this guy in London. | ||
| This is what I'm a part of. | ||
| Me and Longo taking our guys to the flagpole. | ||
| And then who's with us? | ||
| Aljo, or Al is our third guy. | ||
| I didn't sign on for anything else. | ||
| In other words, I want to make these guys the best they can, but once it gets to a certain degree now where it's like, alright man, this guy's going to be in the corner, and this... | ||
| Alright, well now that you guys are calling the shots... | ||
| You don't need me no more, because I'm not going to be fucking in there. | ||
| Okay, is it my turn to take the towel in? | ||
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Fuck everybody! | |
| I'm out! | ||
| Who wants to go in this town? | ||
| Nick Sick, John Wood, who wants to? | ||
| And I love those guys. | ||
| They're good guys. | ||
| I like them. | ||
| They're good. | ||
| I'm friendly with them. | ||
| But I'm not a part of that. | ||
| I want the best for my fucking guys. | ||
| I love those guys. | ||
| Fucking Marab is going to be the next champ. | ||
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But Marab is unstoppable. | |
| When he was carrying Henry Cejudo with his tongue out. | ||
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He's got his tongue out. | |
| And he's like a savage moment. | ||
| What a savage moment. | ||
| Walking over to Mark Zuckerberg. | ||
| Holding Henry fucking Cejudo. | ||
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Two division world champion. | |
| Embarrassing. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| Marab, the thing is with Marab, I've never seen, in all my years, I've never seen a gas tank like that. | ||
| I never have. | ||
| It's incredible. | ||
| Because it's not like he's slow. | ||
| You generally associate really high-level endurance with guys that maybe don't have the kind of power he has. | ||
| But he's also durable. | ||
| If you watched his fight with Marlon Morales... | ||
| Not only did he get dropped, it was almost about to get stopped. | ||
| But then it was almost, by the end of the round, not only did he recover, he was beating the shit out of him. | ||
| Like, just beating, it almost ended in the other way. | ||
| He might have won back that round. | ||
| I never see, I'm like, holy fuck. | ||
| He's an animal. | ||
| Dude, his social media is getting funny, too. | ||
| He's great on social media. | ||
| He's the best. | ||
| He's the best. | ||
| He's an animal. | ||
| And I'm happy that him and Aljo never fought. | ||
| They never, you know what I mean? | ||
| That's a beautiful thing. | ||
| Did Aljo have to go up? | ||
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No. | |
| Is he, like, really struggling? | ||
| Why did he decide to go up? | ||
| Well, I think it's time. | ||
| I mean, you'd have to ask him, but... | ||
| It was hard for him to get down to that weight. | ||
| I mean, he's done it. | ||
| He's a pro. | ||
| He's so good at that weight, though. | ||
| Yeah, but, man, he'll strangle guys the size of Rallo. | ||
| I've seen him. | ||
| Oh, I'm sure he can. | ||
| But I always felt that he had really good endurance for a guy who cuts that much weight. | ||
| And he could push a pace. | ||
| And his size and the grappling advantage. | ||
| When he strangled Corey Sanhagen, I was like, holy shit. | ||
| That was impressive. | ||
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Holy shit! | |
| But I think he's gonna be better now. | ||
| So I've been working with him a little bit, just talking to him. | ||
| So he's healthier? | ||
| Yeah, he's healthier now. | ||
| He's not concerned about his weight. | ||
| And that was a big part for him at 35. Half of his camp was just making weight. | ||
| And as he puts it, do you think there should be more weight classes? | ||
| I think so. | ||
| I think so. | ||
| I think they should have been back in fucking 2001. I was a fucking tweeter, man. | ||
| 155 was fucking hard for me, man. | ||
| But I was like Gollum on that fucking scale. | ||
| But 170, imagine me now at 170 with fucking MVPs and all these motherfuckers. | ||
| I'll be up to the dick. | ||
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That's true. | |
| And I, first of all, people are shitting on that guy. | ||
| How does MVP make 170? | ||
| I had no idea. | ||
| Hey, what did you think of his, I liked his, everybody's shitting on him. | ||
| I liked his appearance. | ||
| Listen, that's what he, that's what I always was saying, telling people. | ||
| He handled Kevin Holland easily. | ||
| I was telling people those point fighters, the guys who are elite at that skill of blitzing in, that's a very specific skill and it's hard to handle. | ||
| And if you're just used to guys Muay Thai-ing you, and then some guy is doing that, it's wild, wild to deal with. | ||
| No, when I trained Tyron for Wonderboy, we brought in karate people. | ||
| We went to karate schools looking for the best karate guys. | ||
| Just to be able to deal with that aspect of the fight. | ||
| Yeah, well, I still think Wonderboy won, so what do you think about that? | ||
| I think Tyron handled Wonderboy better than anybody in Wonderboy's prime. | ||
| I think he handled him better than anybody because he just waited on him. | ||
| He did a lot of waiting on him, but he fucked him up. | ||
| Like, he rocked him twice. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Like, bad. | ||
| And, you know, Wonderboy was the guy thought to be the striker. | ||
| I never really watched. | ||
| I saw some highlights of Michael Page, Michael Venom Page from Bella Tar, but I never really watched. | ||
| I just don't know when they're on, to be honest. | ||
| He's sensational. | ||
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He is. | |
| People were shitting on his appearance. | ||
| I thought it was great. | ||
| Listen, he fought Kevin Howard. | ||
| In his first fight in the UFC, he jumped into the deep end of the pool with a real dangerous guy who's got one-punch knockout power from his fucking back. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Remember that shit when he knocked down Jacare from his back? | ||
| Hey, it's the first guy in there, whoever fucking Kevin Holland, Kevin Holland. | ||
| You understand? | ||
| Like, Kevin Holland's usually talking shit, winning or losing. | ||
| You know, he's on the bottom of the ice. | ||
| Like, hey, you're stronger than I thought. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He had him, you know, a little fucking... | ||
| Perplexed. | ||
| Yeah, I like to hear a lot of times when they go back to the corner... | ||
| Dude, he was mentally beat after the first round, it really sounded like. | ||
| You can't hit that guy, and when you get close, he's so creative. | ||
| Those spinning elbows he kept hitting him with. | ||
| Oh, I know. | ||
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He's like, he's faster than we thought. | |
| And they go, you gotta cut him off. | ||
| He goes, he's not there. | ||
| It's a different thing. | ||
| He's doing that point karate type movement. | ||
| And he trained it over and over again. | ||
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Come on, man. | |
| It's that that ability to move in and out in his footwork is so sensational It's like that is a different thing to deal with It's like wrestlers if you're if you're used to grappling on your knees only and then all of a sudden you have to wrestle Big difference. | ||
| It's kind of like that these guys their their ability to close distance in that sideways stance Machida heads Wonderboy did it the best UFC. Yeah Wonderboy did some wild shit in the UFC It's such a different style. | ||
| And my little Jimmy Bird is always like, they keep their hands down. | ||
| I got your Jimmy. | ||
| It's a fucking thing. | ||
| Remember Wonder Boy, Jake Ellenberger? | ||
| Oh, that's the kick. | ||
| The wheel kick. | ||
| And this was like after Jake Ellenberger had said, he's not going to hit me with any of that fancy spinning shit. | ||
| Oh, no, he laughed. | ||
| He goes, I don't cry. | ||
| He goes, that's cute. | ||
| Something like that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And he got embarrassed. | ||
| I think Wonderboy has the perfect con. | ||
| Here's the perfect con. | ||
| He's genuinely the nicest guy in the world. | ||
| He's handsome and wholesome, and he's just a sweet, sweet guy. | ||
| And so that's like a mask that a killer wears. | ||
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And then he's fucking piecing you up and you're like, oh no! | |
| What about the Jeff Neal fight? | ||
| What he did with Jeff Neal was he pretended to be his friend. | ||
| In the little cage. | ||
| You get real confused. | ||
| Back up a little bit so you can see before it. | ||
| You get real confused with this dude. | ||
| And you get confused by the way he looks and how nice he talks. | ||
| He's a fucking karate assassin. | ||
| He's so good. | ||
| Probably the greatest karate fighter that's ever fought in MMA. He's so good. | ||
| I mean, there's Raymond Daniels. | ||
| He was another guy that was like an elite point fighting guy that's also a kickboxer that fought in Glory. | ||
| Yeah, Raymond Daniels is good. | ||
| He's the guy that has that 720 degree punch. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He spins in the air and KOs the guy with one punch. | ||
| It's the craziest thing you've ever seen. | ||
| If you saw it in a movie. | ||
| You think a kick is coming and then he just goes whack. | ||
| What is it if you saw it in a movie? | ||
| He's a California guy. | ||
| Or that's where his gym is, I believe. | ||
| Raymond Daniels sees another one. | ||
| Oh, he's so dangerous, dude. | ||
| Raymond Daniels, watch this. | ||
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Boom! | |
| I mean, come on, son. | ||
| That is crazy. | ||
| That's a crazy thing to watch. | ||
| How do you prepare for that? | ||
| How do you prepare? | ||
| And in Bellator, he has one of the wildest knockouts. | ||
| Excuse me, not Bellator. | ||
| In Glory, in Glory Kickboxing, he has this touch side kick, jump spinning back kick to the face KO. You know, high level kickboxing match, man. | ||
| But the way he set it up, watch this. | ||
| This is a thing of beauty. | ||
| Watch this here. | ||
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| Oh, man. | ||
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What? | |
| What? | ||
| What the fuck is that? | ||
| Damn. | ||
| Show that again. | ||
| Show that again. | ||
| Look at that, dude. | ||
| Are you fucking kidding me? | ||
| I don't even know. | ||
| I think he kicked him in his neck. | ||
| But he's still fighting. | ||
| He's fighting in karate combat. | ||
| That's why he has a shirt on. | ||
| Bro, Raymond Daniels. | ||
| Raymond Daniels, dude. | ||
| Raymond Daniels. | ||
| And Raymond Daniels and Michael Venom Page fought, I believe, back in the day in a point-fighting match. | ||
| So those guys that can cover distance like that, that's a different thing, man. | ||
| It's a different thing. | ||
| I like that he's part of the UFC because there's so many nice matchups. | ||
| At first, I was liking maybe him versus Wonderboy. | ||
| Then I was thinking about it more, and I'm like, wait a minute. | ||
| It might just be that. | ||
| But there's a lot of nice matchups. | ||
| He didn't look like he had those UFC jetties. | ||
| Not at all. | ||
| No, he looked like he was enjoying himself. | ||
| Yeah, I was impressed. | ||
| He's really dangerous, man. | ||
| He's so tall and such a sniper. | ||
| And just that movement. | ||
| Good luck finding anybody to emulate that shit in camp. | ||
| Good luck. | ||
| I mean, you gotta get Raymond Daniels. | ||
| Also, if your whole life is spent fighting at a certain pace and a certain distance, and all of a sudden this guy moves it by 30%. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| 30% is crazy. | ||
| He's way back here. | ||
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He's way back here, and he's standing in front of you, and he's moving around. | |
| And you try to close the distance, and they're just so fast. | ||
| They beat you to it. | ||
| You remember when Lyoto Machida knocked out Ryan Bader? | ||
| Ryan Bader's trying to close the distance, and we were just planting a left hand on him. | ||
| It's like, whoa! | ||
| It was like that style is very hard to deal with if someone's really good at it and they can do the other shit too. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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If they can defend a takedown, they'll get it. | |
| I'm so interested in Jamal Hill and Pineda. | ||
| I'm so interested in that fight. | ||
| I know. | ||
| I am so interested in that fight. | ||
| Do you think his Achilles is straight? | ||
| Dude, I don't know. | ||
| I mean, I would assume it is, otherwise he wouldn't be jumping back in. | ||
| I know it was more than eight months. | ||
| Is that what they say it takes? | ||
| How many months ago did Jamal Hill injure his Achilles? | ||
| I was there at the game he was playing, too. | ||
| They was all playing a basketball game. | ||
| It's always something stupid. | ||
| He can hoop, though. | ||
| Jamal Hooker play. | ||
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Nice. | |
| And he somehow... | ||
| You could also fucking... | ||
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Yeah. | |
| God, you could also strike. | ||
| Okay, so this was in July. | ||
| So August, September, October, November, December, January, February, March. | ||
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Eight. | |
| Eight. | ||
| Ooh. | ||
| I'd like to have more... | ||
| It's right on the limit. | ||
| I'd like to have a little more. | ||
| I would assume he's had to be on the BPCs. | ||
| No, you can't. | ||
| Even as an injury? | ||
| No, you can't. | ||
| So they can't even get permission to use that? | ||
| No, you can do stem cells. | ||
| They can do PRP. They can do a lot of things. | ||
| It's so silly. | ||
| He assures Achilles injury fully healed ahead of UFC 300. It's not a problem at all. | ||
| Hey, man, I don't think he gets enough props, first of all. | ||
| I think he's a fucking beast. | ||
| Jamal Hill's fucking dangerous. | ||
| Watch the fight with Glover. | ||
| Yeah, watch the fight with Glover. | ||
| He pieced Glover up. | ||
| And Glover is fucking good. | ||
| To piece him up like that on the feed? | ||
| Taking away his singles real quick. | ||
| People underestimate him for some strange reason. | ||
| And I don't understand it. | ||
| I've heard people talk about his power. | ||
| Watch that Johnny Walker fight. | ||
| He hit him in the forehead. | ||
| It was hit by a sniper. | ||
| The OSP fight? | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| He's good, man. | ||
| He's good. | ||
| He's fucking dangerous. | ||
| Show me somebody that did something to him standing up. | ||
| Because I'm not finding it. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| I think Alex is going to be so confident You know, shit happens. | ||
| But I think Alex is going to be so confident because of all his kickboxing and everything else that with these little gloves, I think Jamal's going to surprise him. | ||
| He's going to fucking sharpshoot him. | ||
| Jamal's a one-punch knockout striker at light heavyweight for sure, and he's a big, tall dude, and he knows movement. | ||
| He's fucking dangerous, man. | ||
| He's good at keeping his range. | ||
| Bro, he's fucking dangerous. | ||
| Jamal's dangerous. | ||
| I mean, a lot of people are picking Pajeda to run him over. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Which I think is interesting. | ||
| Yeah, I'm not sure about that. | ||
| I'm not sure about that, man. | ||
| Dude, I think this is going to be a great fight. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| The thing about Behata, though, is he's ultra high-level. | ||
| Like, people just think about only his power, and you only think about, like, because he's got the most insane touch of death. | ||
| It's insane. | ||
| He just sleeps people with everything. | ||
| But when you see his movement and that sneaky shit he does where he gets that calf kick off, you don't see... | ||
| Yeah, you don't even see it coming. | ||
| You don't see shit, man. | ||
| You don't see shit. | ||
| And when he checks his kicks, he doesn't check them. | ||
| He gets his foot like a hacky sack position. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| He lifts his shin up so you're just sliding under it. | ||
| You ain't getting shit. | ||
| And he's coming down with a right hand every time. | ||
| He's good, man. | ||
| He's fucking good. | ||
| I think the speed of Jamal Hill is going to be the difference. | ||
| As long as he has it and that Achilles doesn't hinder him. | ||
| Yeah, well, goddamn it would suck if he came in at 70%. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Not 100%. | ||
| He's going to need to be 100%. | ||
| Because the thing is, there's got to be a lot of pressure to be UFC 300. And you might be, I can do it, I can do it. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'm hoping it's 100%. | ||
| I just hope they for sure got him some stem cells. | ||
| And I would imagine, you know, he's an elite UFC world championship caliber athlete. | ||
| He's the world champ. | ||
| He just relinquished his title. | ||
| I mean, he's fighting for his title, essentially, right? | ||
| Because he didn't lose. | ||
| He gave it up. | ||
| He got injured. | ||
| I bet he only gave it up because Uri gave it up, too. | ||
| I mean, it's basic what he said when he gave it up. | ||
| That's honorable, right? | ||
| Said Uri got out of the way, I'm going to get out of the way, I'm not going to hold up. | ||
| And that's why I like them guys, because what other division would do that? | ||
| I don't think anybody else would do that. | ||
| Well, those guys are warriors. | ||
| That is a warrior division. | ||
| Even Uri, who thought the fight was prematurely stopped, he wouldn't say it inside the octagon. | ||
| Right, he was just like, yeah, I like that. | ||
| I hate when guys are bitching right afterwards, or they start talking about the injuries they had and everything. | ||
| That one was a close one, though. | ||
| When you watch that one, you're like, ooh, you could have one or two more seconds. | ||
| I thought he was a... | ||
| I mean... | ||
| Close, but I thought it was a fair stoppage, too. | ||
| Yes, I thought fair stoppage, too. | ||
| Same Dr. Aaron Rodgers had. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Went to the right guy. | ||
| I bet Jamal got all the good stuff. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, that's good, then. | ||
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Hopefully. | |
| He's going to need it. | ||
| Yeah, Aaron Rodgers, he was practicing quite a bit. | ||
| It was like five months in already, out there throwing and shit. | ||
| He said his strength of the leg wasn't the same, his ability to push off it wasn't the same, but he said it was getting a lot better. | ||
| I just don't want Jamal to be compromised in any way in that fight. | ||
| It's such a big fight. | ||
| Yeah, but like I said, man, his speed and his instincts and his vision, it's just different. | ||
| And he's got that boxing punching set where he throws straight, where, you know, Pajeda's a little loopier. | ||
| Well, Pajeda does fight with his hands way low, too, and he kind of like lures guys into these slugfests because he's got such insane counterpower. | ||
| His one loss, Jamal Hill, is from that fucking armlock triangle from Paul Craig. | ||
| That could happen to anybody. | ||
| Paul Craig has one of the most dangerous guards in any fucking division. | ||
| I love it. | ||
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I love it. | |
| Period. | ||
| Period. | ||
| Full stop. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Remember he caught Ankalaya? | ||
| One second to go in the fight. | ||
| One second to go. | ||
| He catches him in a triangle. | ||
| How does he got wins over Jamal Hill and Ankoliyev? | ||
| That's how good his guard is. | ||
| His guard is sensational. | ||
| His guard is what everybody's guard should strive to be. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| That's what I love and it'll never go out of style no matter what happens with jiu-jitsu. | ||
| At my school I have everybody doing the latest fucking leg locks to this and that. | ||
| This is a horrible one because he broke his arm too. | ||
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His arm is completely flopping around. | |
| It's already broken by this point. | ||
| He's still trying to fight, though. | ||
| That's the fucking... | ||
| Oh, Jamal's an animal. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| He's still not... | ||
| He's such a warrior, dude. | ||
| They stopped the fight. | ||
| He wasn't quitting. | ||
| He's a beast. | ||
| His arm is fucked. | ||
| He just looks at it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's fucked, dude. | ||
| You remember what it looked like when it was going backwards? | ||
| It was horrific, man. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| It was horrific. | ||
| I think he's winning the fight, to be honest with you. | ||
| I do. | ||
| And I like Alex. | ||
| Really? | ||
| I swear, I think he's winning. | ||
| Listen, I think it's a very interesting fight. | ||
| Dude, the odds are real close on it. | ||
| It should be. | ||
| I think it's a pick-em fight. | ||
| Me too. | ||
| I can see a bunch of scenarios going both ways. | ||
| I think people underestimate Jamal. | ||
| The thing is, though, Jamal does... | ||
| Stand with like almost like a boxing stance sometimes. | ||
| I wonder how good he's gonna be of getting away from the calf kick. | ||
| That is such a primary weapon in Pajeras because he's so fucking sneaky with it. | ||
| And even though everybody knows that he's sneaky with it, it's still hard. | ||
| You can't defend it. | ||
| The one thing about Jamal, he's smart though. | ||
| Jamal is a very intelligent fighter. | ||
| For a young guy, he's very cerebral and I think he understands that that might be a problem. | ||
| So he should have an answer for it early. | ||
| Yeah, you gotta have an answer for that. | ||
| He's got all these combinations that he sets up that are based on your reaction to certain movements. | ||
| And he repeats these patterns in fights and it's always surprising. | ||
| The way he's able to land those things is so surprising. | ||
| And he's just got this very specific strategy. | ||
| I'm gonna kill that leg. | ||
| And then you're fucked and I hit really hard and you're not gonna be able to get out of the way. | ||
| Did you ever get hit with one of those calf kicks? | ||
| No. | ||
| Me neither. | ||
| I'm happy I didn't know. | ||
| I'm happy that shit was out. | ||
| I thought people play it. | ||
| Just play kick me? | ||
| And it hurts like hell. | ||
| I did before they were a thing, and I think it was my fight against Josh Near. | ||
| He seemed like the dude who would use a calf kick. | ||
| But they weren't a thing. | ||
| I think it was an accident, and he kicked me in a calf, and I swear I thought my leg was broke. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| I was like, I couldn't walk. | ||
| I thought my leg was broke. | ||
| Now, imagine Pajeda. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| I don't know how to deal with that. | ||
| He fucked up Jan Bajovic's shit. | ||
| Jan Bajovic is literally made out of rocks. | ||
| That dude is made out of rocks! | ||
| I guarantee you, if they do some bone density, he's got some fucking Viking rock bones. | ||
| He's a beast. | ||
| That dude hits so goddamn hard. | ||
| Hey, but what about the BMF? I'm interested in that too. | ||
| You're not really interested in that one? | ||
| I am interested in that. | ||
| You know why I'm interested in that? | ||
| Because people are counting Max out. | ||
| I'm not. | ||
| I think Max might win. | ||
| Max is one of my favorites. | ||
| Max has had a lot of time to prepare. | ||
| Justin's a 230 favorite. | ||
| I would not take that. | ||
| Can I just say that they were basing a lot of that shit on his fight versus Dustin Poirier. | ||
| And if you hear Max talk about it, he had only six weeks to prepare for that thing. | ||
| And he was doing this for like 10 or so weeks. | ||
| And I don't know, man. | ||
| Max is an intelligent guy. | ||
| I was there, we were there live, when he fought Calvin Cater. | ||
| And he's looking away, I'm the best boxer! | ||
| And he moves his head and he fucking hits him. | ||
| And you remember where Dana was doing? | ||
| Dana was like, somebody need to stop this. | ||
| Dana was like scared for Calvin Cater's life. | ||
| He probably could have stopped. | ||
| He put a real beating on Calvin that takes a long time to recover from. | ||
| I mean, the amount of punches that he landed on Calvin were insane. | ||
| My thing with the Dustin and Max fight was I thought Dustin just physically bullied him around the ring. | ||
| It looked like there was a strength advantage there, and I think that's going to be a problem. | ||
| If my perception's right, then that would be a problem because I think Justin's stronger and more of a bully, and his leg kicks, which Max never seems to check. | ||
| I think his leg kicks could present a problem. | ||
| That could be a real problem. | ||
| Because he had a problem with that with Volkanovski. | ||
| And the thing about Gaethje is Gaethje lands them in the clinch. | ||
| He can be standing like... | ||
| It's insane. | ||
| I know. | ||
| His distance for that... | ||
| His flexibility is insane. | ||
| It's insane. | ||
| This was such a beating. | ||
| This was a beating, man. | ||
| This was wild, man. | ||
| This is wild live because it was during the... | ||
| And Calvin Cater, I mean, he's a fucking dangerous dude. | ||
| He's got real good boxing. | ||
| And he just couldn't touch Max. | ||
| I see a single for Aljo. | ||
| I told you, old Binky Jones-type cater back in the day. | ||
| That was his first loss. | ||
| Binky Jones? | ||
| Yeah, one of my guys. | ||
| James Binky Jones. | ||
| One of the reasons why I'm interested in this is because I think Max is going to go into this fight with a tremendous amount of Anticipation. | ||
| This is not a fight that you don't get real scared about. | ||
| This is a fight you gotta really fucking prepare. | ||
| And when Max gets pushed, you see the best Max. | ||
| What is he, 33? | ||
| He's one of my favorites. | ||
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Yeah, he's young. | |
| Yeah, Max is not out of his prime. | ||
| When he started, he was, what, 19? | ||
| We really kind of put aside when a guy loses the title that maybe they're not as good as they used to be. | ||
| But Max keeps getting better. | ||
| Not to mention his nuts. | ||
| I mean, let's think about when he was going to fight Habib on 24 hours notice or whatever it was. | ||
| He's one of my favorite guys, without a doubt. | ||
| One of my favorite fighters. | ||
| He's a beast, and he's a sweetheart of a guy. | ||
| Yeah, right? | ||
| The nicest guys. | ||
| Yeah, no doubt. | ||
| The nicest guys. | ||
| And he talked openly about why guys like Conor, why those guys gas out. | ||
| Guys like Aldo. | ||
| He was like, they got too much power, man! | ||
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And he's like, they don't have that kind of power! | |
| Did you see Roadhouse? | ||
| I did not see Roadhouse. | ||
| Is it good? | ||
| I've seen Roadhouse. | ||
| On a 1 to 10, how high were you? | ||
| Oh, you know. | ||
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Compared to what? | |
| Like normally? | ||
| No, no. | ||
| It's fun. | ||
| It's like an 80s type movie. | ||
| It's a little silly in a way. | ||
| It's not too serious in a sense. | ||
| But it's fun. | ||
| I like Jake. | ||
| He's likable. | ||
| Yeah, Jake carried the movie. | ||
| And let me tell you, Connor, what an actor. | ||
| He did himself. | ||
| People are like, yo, what an actor. | ||
| He's going to take the Hollywood by storm. | ||
| He's playing himself, basically. | ||
| Couldn't he play himself in a bunch of movies? | ||
| I bet Guy Ritchie's on speed dial with him right now. | ||
| I mean, but all he had was a lot of one-liners, so it's easy to deliver one-liners, right? | ||
| Conor McGregor could be a movie star. | ||
| Easy. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| If The Rock can do it, you don't think Conor McGregor could do it? | ||
| For sure. | ||
| He got the discipline to do it. | ||
| 100% he could do it. | ||
| And he's a character, man. | ||
| Look at him. | ||
| He's a fucking character, dude. | ||
| I like the part in the movie when he takes the trolley and he throws it into the... | ||
| Oh, no, that's a different... | ||
| That happened in real life. | ||
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He's a fucking... | |
| He's a fucking... | ||
| Listen, I liked him in the movie, though. | ||
| He wasn't... | ||
| He didn't take you out of the movie. | ||
| Yeah, I thought the movie was cool. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Well, I will definitely watch it. | ||
| It's like a fun... | ||
| It's not the original one to ten. | ||
| I'll get to about nine. | ||
| Yeah, get to about nine... | ||
| It's a bit corny, but... | ||
| I like a corny movie. | ||
| Yeah, if you like corny movies and just want to be entertained, it's the perfect movie. | ||
| I love the first Rhode Island. | ||
| There was no Sam Elliott in this one. | ||
| Why didn't they have a Sam Elliott character? | ||
| That's true. | ||
| Why wouldn't they have a Sam Elliott? | ||
| They should get that guy from Yellowstone. | ||
| That old dude with the mustache from Yellowstone, right? | ||
| What's that guy's name? | ||
| He's a real cowboy. | ||
| Yeah, that's a real cowboy. | ||
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No, not Rip, but Rip is too tough. | |
| The other dude, the older guy. | ||
| He looks like Sam Elliott. | ||
| Yeah, he would be perfect. | ||
| I have a Sam Elliott. | ||
| I'm on the last season of Yellowstone. | ||
| Tell me, man. | ||
| Why didn't they just get fucking actual Sam Elliott? | ||
| I like Yellowstone. | ||
| Yeah, right? | ||
| Yeah, have Sam Elliott come. | ||
| Patrick Swayze's dead, but have actual Sam Elliott come back? | ||
| Come on, mijo. | ||
| Who's a handsome fellow back then with that salt and pepper hair? | ||
| He's a real Marlboro man. | ||
| For sure, son. | ||
| What a voice that guy's got. | ||
| This is such a dumb movie. | ||
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It is. | |
| Dumb as shit. | ||
| It's so dumb. | ||
| It's cult classic. | ||
| It's so dumb, but it's great. | ||
| It's like the Warriors. | ||
| Remember the old movie, the Warriors? | ||
| Warriors can come out and play. | ||
| Yeah, my favorite was the baseball crew. | ||
| Baseball furies. | ||
| Listen, we talked about Star Wars a little bit. | ||
| Fuck Star Wars ever since... | ||
| What's that chick? | ||
| Kathleen Kennedy. | ||
| Yeah, I love the South Park thing. | ||
| Put a chicken in and make a gay and leave. | ||
| That's exactly what the fuck they're doing. | ||
| Cartman hit the nail on the head. | ||
| But fuck all that shit. | ||
| The new Star Wars. | ||
| Fuck all that. | ||
| And it's pre-Star Wars. | ||
| Did you see Dune and Dune Part 2? | ||
| No. | ||
| Man, you got it. | ||
| Joe... | ||
| Did you see it? | ||
| I saw part one. | ||
| I fell asleep. | ||
| You fucking idiot. | ||
| I couldn't help it. | ||
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I'm sorry. | |
| Wow. | ||
| That was kind of mean. | ||
| Sometimes people get tired. | ||
| I get tired, man. | ||
| I work all day. | ||
| Listen to me. | ||
| Joe, these movies are so fucking good. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Okay, I'm excited. | ||
| I see them. | ||
| I'm telling you right now, Josh Brolin's, first of all, I don't think Josh, from Goonies to that, he's never in anything bad, Josh Brolin. | ||
| He's fucking awesome. | ||
| Yeah, he's in that. | ||
| Momoa was in it. | ||
| I like the, you know, he could do a couple push-ups, but I like the Timothy Chamele. | ||
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Chamele? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| No, he is. | ||
| He's in Wonka. | ||
| He's good. | ||
| But these movies are so good. | ||
| The director, he's a French guy. | ||
| He also did Blade Runner, the new Blade Runner, which is another very underrated movie. | ||
| These aren't underrated. | ||
| These are popular, but Blade Runner is underrated, the new one. | ||
| He's fucking awesome, man. | ||
| This guy, what's his name? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's fucking phenomenal. | ||
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Sicario. | |
| But Dune 1 and Dune Part 2. Oh, he did Arrival, too. | ||
| Dune, I'll tell you. | ||
| Did you see Arrival? | ||
| Yeah, but I think I forgot about it. | ||
| Arrival's the one where the alien ships show up. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| That was good. | ||
| They speak with weird... | ||
| Oh, yeah, that's right. | ||
| Yeah, they show images. | ||
| It's fucking dope, dude. | ||
| But Dune, the characters, the fucking... | ||
| It's so good. | ||
| Yeah, I haven't seen the second one yet. | ||
| And it's so funny. | ||
| In the first one, I don't want to give it away, but the guy he fights at the end of it is a guy I had a jujitsu match versus this Babs. | ||
| I swear to God! | ||
| I did a drop Sayanagi on him. | ||
| Well, that was your move back in the day. | ||
| Yeah, man! | ||
| If you put in Matt versus Babs, you see me throw the fucking guy. | ||
| He's actually great in the movie. | ||
| He's great in it. | ||
| He plays Jamis, part of the Freeman. | ||
| The Freeman. | ||
| The Freeman's on Arrakis, and they're on these desert planets, and these big giant worms. | ||
| Such a nerd. | ||
| Another nerd guy. | ||
| Joe, you look like, when I say all this shit, you're looking at me like you want to unfriend me. | ||
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No! | |
| You're looking at me like this is a mistake. | ||
| I'm fascinated. | ||
| There he is! | ||
| This dude? | ||
| Yeah, he's good! | ||
| I went versus him in a jiu-jitsu match, and Minotaur was the ref. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Was that at NAGA? Yeah, it's NAGA in 1996. If you put in Matt versus Babs, you don't have to. | ||
| I don't give a fuck. | ||
| It's not about me, but that guy. | ||
| Don't get the HD version. | ||
| Get the HD version. | ||
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Watch his throat. | |
| And don't share that video. | ||
| But I was so happy when I seen him. | ||
| Well, first of all, look at those abs. | ||
| But yeah, I mean, you can fold it a little bit. | ||
| Yeah, you can fold it a little bit. | ||
| After I mount him and he gets up, this is back in the day, yo. | ||
| This is like a Minotauros the ref. | ||
| But yeah, you can fold it a tiny bit. | ||
| After I mount him and I get off mount. | ||
| But yeah, look at that. | ||
| This is old school. | ||
| But once I get off mount and he... | ||
| Right now you can pull it. | ||
| Right after I miss the armbar. | ||
| But now this is for Paul Atreides. | ||
| Sorry, if you know it, if you see the movie. | ||
| Ready? | ||
| Damn, you almost had that armbar. | ||
| I did almost have that, but Henzo got happy for this because he worked on me with this fucking throw. | ||
| That's two points. | ||
| Hey, what belt was this? | ||
| This was when I was a brown belt and he was a purple. | ||
| Watch one more second because I do a nice back take. | ||
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No, I want Joe to see it, because Joe likes Jiu Jitsu. | |
| Look, this was our team versus the Alliance team back in the day. | ||
| I said the same thing on Gomi, but it looks cool. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Because what happens is, you go first, and it's almost like a second later for him to go, so it looks cool. | ||
| I love that one. | ||
| I love that back shake. | ||
| Enough of me, I feel like a brat. | ||
| That's a fun back tip. | ||
| It's dramatic. | ||
| It's dramatic. | ||
| It's also kind of humbling. | ||
| Your feet are up in the air. | ||
| Everybody's watching! | ||
| But back to the movies, you're gonna love these movies, man. | ||
| They're good. | ||
| They got good characters. | ||
| They're deep. | ||
| And the action is fucking good. | ||
| I mean, yeah. | ||
| I believe you. | ||
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It's good. | |
| Give it a chance. | ||
| But I don't believe Timothee Chalamet has beaten this guy in anything other than checkers. | ||
| I need you to stop right there. | ||
| He needs to have some kind of superpower. | ||
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I'm not buying none of what I was just seeing. | |
| You know how in Star Wars, like The Force and all that stuff, Dune by Frank Herbert. | ||
| Stop looking at me, John Rollins. | ||
| John Rollins like, I want to throw you in a locker. | ||
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Shut up, Rollins. | |
| It's just not happening. | ||
| It's fucking not happening. | ||
| So listen, these books came out in the 70s, and George Lucas took a lot from this. | ||
| They used something called The Voice, that they control people instead of The Force and shit like that. | ||
| But very cool. | ||
| Josh Brolin for the win. | ||
| I gotta be honest, I like The Force a lot more than The Voice. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Well, you're thinking of The Voice with that synergy with you. | |
| You don't seem like a movie guy. | ||
| I like a few movies. | ||
| But you seem like the type of guy that likes to be outside and hunting and catching shit with your hands. | ||
| Like a good old white boy just out there. | ||
| I like doing things. | ||
| If you spend too much time watching movies, it's like time you can't be actually doing actual things. | ||
| I think of it as a reward. | ||
| If I'm going to watch a movie, it's like, I busted my ass all week. | ||
| I can watch a movie. | ||
| To kill boredom, my family went to Texas recently, Dallas, to go visit my sister-in-law, and I was by myself. | ||
| You know the deal, Joe. | ||
| When you have three kids and a wife, and you've got a routine, It's different when there's nobody home and shit. | ||
| So I'm like, I'm just sitting there. | ||
| There's only so much VR you can play. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| So I go to the movies by yourself. | ||
| When you go to the movies by yourself in Long Island, it feels different than the city. | ||
| Yeah, you feel like a pervert. | ||
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It's like some fucking creeper rubbing his dick in the middle of a Goonies movie. | |
| So I'm in there by myself watching Frozen. | ||
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Let it go. | |
| Let it go. | ||
| Disney movies suck, man. | ||
| So I watched the fucking movie twice. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Dune twice by yourself? | ||
| Three hour movies. | ||
| Don't say I don't have a life. | ||
| I have a nice life. | ||
| That's incredible. | ||
| Listen, you know what I could do? | ||
| I could be out getting in trouble. | ||
| My VR! My nerdiness! | ||
| No bar fights. | ||
| Yeah, just VR. You're much better off doing what you're doing. | ||
| I could have went another route. | ||
| My wife really... | ||
| And let me tell you, I didn't tell you this last time, Joe. | ||
| And he knows. | ||
| My wife, at 40 years old, had an MMA fight. | ||
| I saw it. | ||
| I saw it online. | ||
| It was fucking phenomenal, dude. | ||
| It was crazy. | ||
| I was like, what is Matt Sarah doing in his house? | ||
| I know, right? | ||
| It's funny that at a later age, as a mother... | ||
| A husband of a guy who was a world champion decides to just start fighting? | ||
| Fuck it, let's go! | ||
| You know, but she never threw a punch when I won the title. | ||
| She never threw a punch. | ||
| She was like Adrian. | ||
| I said, it's like the opposite of her personality, man. | ||
| It wasn't. | ||
| It's pretty crazy. | ||
| And then she'd do the kickboxing between each daughter to lose weight. | ||
| And then she took a kickboxing match under Lou Neglia, our buddy, who I used to fight on there, you know? | ||
| And she was... | ||
| Didn't she become three? | ||
| This is my wife's fight! | ||
| Look at this! | ||
| This is me and her before. | ||
| Is that you with the blue shirt? | ||
| You're a son of a bitch! | ||
| That was a... | ||
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That's the old man. | |
| That's awesome. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| Before gluten-free, that wasn't it. | ||
| That's when Dana used to say, oh, it looks like you ate Matzara, you fuck. | ||
| But yeah, that was me. | ||
| But I was so proud of her, man. | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| She got out of the cage. | ||
| Longo's the one who greeted her at the fucking thing. | ||
| Because, I mean, look, she's fighting a purple belt from Virginia here. | ||
| And again, she never did any kind of sports in high school. | ||
| I mean, if you see her standing up, she's like doing a fucking clinic, man. | ||
| She snaps down, she takes the back, and you know, she's a blue belt, she fought a purple belt, it was always that last, that chance of the girl... | ||
| You know, doing something. | ||
| And you never know how these things go. | ||
| So she's one and done. | ||
| I'm happy she's done with it. | ||
| She did it. | ||
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That's awesome. | |
| It's nice for my daughters to see. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And now I'm saving myself from all the shit I said earlier about the fucking girls with the fucking... | ||
| No, I'm only kidding. | ||
| No, my wife... | ||
| No, I'm just really proud of her. | ||
| It was really nice. | ||
| It was cool. | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| What a crazy aspiration at that age just to decide, fuck it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's fucking crazy. | ||
| But I saw clips of your daughter helping her train. | ||
| What a cool environment to be in. | ||
| The whole setup with the school and all. | ||
| His family's part of it now. | ||
| And it happened naturally. | ||
| Organically. | ||
| Yeah, he didn't drag them in and say, I'll do this. | ||
| His girls were dancing and shit. | ||
| My oldest just left dance to pursue it full time. | ||
| And now she's got a jujitsu max next month at the same place with my wife for it. | ||
| It's cool. | ||
| And she's on the Lou Negley having an event. | ||
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Nice. | |
| It's cool. | ||
| And again, what I found with having a kid is you can't make them love it, but you can make them hate it. | ||
| I never tried to be like... | ||
| I used to always just play with them, play with them, but now they're living at the school. | ||
| It's so cool. | ||
| That's awesome. | ||
| Family business, you know? | ||
| Do you have any new kids lately? | ||
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No. | |
| Ah, no kids for me. | ||
| I got one. | ||
| Yeah, he's doing good though. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| College kid. | ||
| Shout out, Ethan. | ||
| So what are the other interesting fights on 300? | ||
| Pull that shit up. | ||
| BMF. You get the BMF fight. | ||
| You got Zhang Wei Li versus Yan Xiaonan. | ||
| That should be what? | ||
| Zhang Wei Li is a monster. | ||
| Every time I'm at the PI, she's always there. | ||
| She's never not training when I'm there. | ||
| This is the dark horse. | ||
| Oliveira and Saryukian. | ||
| Let's talk about that. | ||
| What do you think about that? | ||
| That Saryukian dude is a dangerous motherfucker, but so is Oliveira. | ||
| Oliveira is the wildest turnaround of any fighter of all time. | ||
| At one point in time, he would fall short a lot. | ||
| He taps the strikes to Paul Felder, and then comes back and just knocks everybody out. | ||
| And just annihilates everyone. | ||
| And has no fear. | ||
| A different human being was reborn inside of his body. | ||
| Because he was known, not known for it, but he was known to be able to break. | ||
| If that's in him, it stays in him. | ||
| It hasn't been in him for a while. | ||
| He's been smashing everybody. | ||
| He smashed Gaethje. | ||
| Did he fight Gaethje? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| He beat Gaethje. | ||
| Who else did he beat? | ||
| Chandler. | ||
| Chandler. | ||
| That Chandler one was crazy, too, because he got hurt real bad in the first round. | ||
| It's just also the power that he has is very unusual. | ||
| He loses to Makachev. | ||
| That's right, he beat Poirier. | ||
| I mean, come on, son. | ||
| Beat Chandler, Poirier, and Gaethje in a row. | ||
| I mean, that's wild. | ||
| I fell for Benio on that fight, man, because Benio was doing so... | ||
| Like, Benio wasn't afraid to face him down there. | ||
| A lot of guys are afraid to go down there with him to the floor. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And, you know, rightfully so, because I just watched recently his fight with Kevin Lee again. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And Kevin Lee thought he'd be okay down there, and fuck, man, you're fighting to get out of an arm, he's on your neck, out of the neck, he's on your leg. | ||
| That was the one when Kevin didn't realize he went out. | ||
| Oh, right. | ||
| And he tapped. | ||
| He didn't realize he tapped. | ||
| I'm feeling... | ||
| I think... | ||
| I think he will take him down and I wonder how that's going to go. | ||
| That's what I'm waiting to see. | ||
| Very interesting fight. | ||
| If Charles is able to get on top of him like Gamrot was able to control him on the ground. | ||
| But then look what he just did to Dariush. | ||
| Look what Armand just did to Benil. | ||
| Charles kind of whacked Benil too in the first round. | ||
| He did too. | ||
| Yeah, that's an interesting fight. | ||
| Isn't it crazy that you got Bo Nickel, who's only had how many MMA fights? | ||
| Four? | ||
| Five? | ||
| And he's on the main card. | ||
| I mean, here's my thing with him, man. | ||
| I think he's going to be great. | ||
| I think he's going to be a great fighter. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| I don't like how he talks about already accomplished fighters who've been through it. | ||
| What does he say? | ||
| Like, I mean, he's always talking about, oh, me and Kamzat will be an easy fight, and this, that, and the third. | ||
| I'm like, yo, dude, like, you got four fights, and you got help with those fights. | ||
| And we haven't seen you get stuck on your feet. | ||
| I mean, yeah, I mean, but the thing is, like, even his opponents, like, you know, Jamie Pickett, like, even Cody Brunches, Cody Brunches is known to fold in fights. | ||
| Like, he's fighting guys that are folding. | ||
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Right. | |
| Yeah, well, maybe they see a future champion. | ||
| I get it, but what I'm saying is... | ||
| I think they're trying to bring him along. | ||
| I mean, you could bring him along, but if you're in that position, don't talk about guys that had to go through it. | ||
| I hear you. | ||
| But isn't it interesting that some fighters, they decide to bring along? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And others are victims that are success. | ||
| Look what's on the undercard. | ||
| Oh, Holly Holm. | ||
| Calvin, look at this. | ||
| This is the undercard. | ||
| Prohaska versus Ray Cage. | ||
| That's wild as it is. | ||
| Wild. | ||
| Wild fight. | ||
| Calvin Cater and Aljo. | ||
| Holly Holm and Kayla Harrison. | ||
| Let's talk about that. | ||
| What do you think of that? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Can she make the weight? | ||
| I like Holly. | ||
| What was she fighting at? | ||
| 155. There's no way she doesn't make the way she's a complete professional, but how she performs is going to be tough. | ||
| I just think Diego Lopez, bro. | ||
| That dude is a killer. | ||
| He's a killer. | ||
| That's a future world champion caliber fighter. | ||
| No doubt about that. | ||
| He's a straight-up killer. | ||
| He's fought for me back in the day on Shogun. | ||
| Excellent. | ||
| That's a good fight. | ||
| Jalen Turner and Hanato Mocano. | ||
| Look at all these other fights that aren't on the main card. | ||
| Jim Miller! | ||
| Listen to Jim Miller! | ||
| Jim Miller on UFC 300, right? | ||
| Davison Figueredo with Cody Garbrandt, that opens up the fights. | ||
| That's crazy to think about, right? | ||
| That is the craziest card of all time. | ||
| That is the craziest card of all time in human history. | ||
| I was shocked when I saw that was the first prelim fight. | ||
| This fucking card is bananas, man. | ||
| Scroll up a little bit more, Jamie. | ||
| That is wild, dude. | ||
| That is a wild undercard. | ||
| You think Holly's going to be able to deal with that grappling and the physical strength? | ||
| Kayla is a monster. | ||
| I mean, we already saw her do it with Rhonda, not that she's big. | ||
| I think Ronda's a better grappler than Kayla on the ground, transitioning to submissions and things. | ||
| I just watched Kayla fight Aspen Ladd and look like dog shit, personally. | ||
| That's one of my guys on the PFL card, and she struggled. | ||
| She got swept against that girl and stuff, so I don't think Holly can grapple with her for sure. | ||
| But I don't think Holly's going to be so easy to take down because she requires the clinch to get her down. | ||
| And Holly's a big, strong chick. | ||
| I mean, I know she's 42 now, so maybe the age becomes a factor. | ||
| But if she can just keep range, she's going to win on her feet. | ||
| So I mean, I have to see Kayla take her down. | ||
| I just don't think it's going to be so easy. | ||
| And if Holly doesn't feel a threat on her feet, Holly might start lighting her up. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| I've seen Kayla fight... | ||
| I don't know who the girl was, but I don't think she... | ||
| The Brazilian girl shot her down. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| A Brazilian, that's who it was. | ||
| She didn't do shit with her. | ||
| On the floor, she didn't do shit with her. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And right here, she's fighting a soccer mom. | ||
| If you back up before that... | ||
| Oh, it's Aspen Ladd? | ||
| I'm sorry, Aspen Ladd. | ||
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I didn't know it was Aspen Ladd. | |
| I'm sorry, I didn't know it was Aspen Ladd. | ||
| But if you look at the way she's throwing punches on her feet... | ||
| She took a German Shepherd's Army. | ||
| It's not good. | ||
| She's not a striker. | ||
| She wants this. | ||
| But in these grappling exchanges, she's going to be a fucking handful. | ||
| But we don't know how to wait. | ||
| It's going to affect her. | ||
| Well, if she did it right, it might actually help. | ||
| You know, probably help her gas tank tremendously. | ||
| Like, in this fight, she never put her in danger. | ||
| Never put her in danger. | ||
| It really just depends on how much muscle she loses, you know? | ||
| And how much strength training she continues to do. | ||
| Like, you don't get that big without a lot of strength training. | ||
| You know, Holly's got a lot of experience. | ||
| I mean, a lot of it is, of course, judo, right? | ||
| A lot of the throwing around. | ||
| Bigger arms than Rollo. | ||
| She's a tank. | ||
| But that comes at a requirement. | ||
| There's a lot of oxygen to get sucked up by those. | ||
| That's what's interesting when you watch guys that get older and they get more economical, like Yoel. | ||
| Got way more economical about how and when to move, but put guys to sleep because they forgot that he could just explode on you at any moment. | ||
| Like the Wyman, the flying knee. | ||
| He would just jump on dudes and you didn't expect it coming. | ||
| He would chill and just sit back, sit back, sit back. | ||
| And be so relaxed! | ||
| I love you! | ||
| I love you! | ||
| That's funny. | ||
| Not to bring that up, but they really fucked Tim Kennedy back in the day for that. | ||
| Tim Kennedy won that. | ||
| That was fucked up. | ||
| That was crazy. | ||
| That was fucked up. | ||
| That was crazy. | ||
| There was like an extra... | ||
| How many seconds? | ||
| My man was on that. | ||
| 39 seconds? | ||
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He stayed on that stool for like a whole round. | |
| Tim had him. | ||
| Tim had him. | ||
| That's a... | ||
| And then there's the mental break that comes from thinking that you won, because the guy's not getting off the stool, and then you gotta fight again. | ||
| Oh, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And then Yoel caught him. | ||
| And the thing about Yoel is he can catch anybody. | ||
| Yeah, definitely. | ||
| He can catch anybody. | ||
| Remember when he caught Machida? | ||
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Whoosh! | |
| The Machida knockout was terrifying. | ||
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Oh, yeah, yeah. | |
| Like a superhero. | ||
| Bro, it's like everybody else is a child. | ||
| Yeah, when he gets going. | ||
| Yeah, everybody else is like a child. | ||
| Is this the end of the fight? | ||
| I wanted to see when Tim was winning. | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| This is some bullshit. | ||
| So this is it right here. | ||
| So Tim can actually... | ||
| He's got him hurt there. | ||
| Boom. | ||
| He's got him hurt. | ||
| Bad. | ||
| And then the bell rings. | ||
| So he goes back. | ||
| I mean, Yoel's on the verge of going out. | ||
| Like, look, he goes back, but they gave him all this extra time. | ||
| The round was supposed to start. | ||
| He's still sitting on the stool. | ||
| What is Big John doing? | ||
| They covered him with water or ice, and they have too much Vaseline on his face. | ||
| There's a bunch of different things, and he just laid there. | ||
| But then he eventually caught Tim. | ||
| That's rough, man. | ||
| Man, that's some bullshit. | ||
| Well, it sucks. | ||
| That's for sure. | ||
| It sucks for Tim. | ||
| Because in all fairness, I think when the bell starts, if you're not willing or able to get up... | ||
| That should be it. | ||
| Yeah, no doubt about that. | ||
| If you're not able to answer the bell... | ||
| But I think there was something else going on. | ||
| He was covered in something. | ||
| They had to wipe him off. | ||
| There was some shenanigans. | ||
| And there was ice on the ground, too. | ||
| I think they did all that shit on purpose. | ||
| All that shit on purpose. | ||
| Old school shit. | ||
| Angelo did that. | ||
| Angelo Dundee did that with Muhammad Ali back when he was Cassius Clay. | ||
| And he fought this dude in London. | ||
| No, he fought this... | ||
| I don't know if it was in London. | ||
| It was Henry Cooper. | ||
| Henry Cooper was this badass British dude who had a nasty left hook. | ||
| And he caught Cassius Clay with a perfect left hook. | ||
| Just bang! | ||
| Dropped him. | ||
| And it was at the end of the round. | ||
| And they cut his gloves in between rounds. | ||
| They had to give him new gloves. | ||
| They gave him plenty of time. | ||
| So this was after the fight. | ||
| They're yelling at each other. | ||
| Well, Tim was yelling at him. | ||
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| What the f***? | ||
| That's good. | ||
| If you can't get off the stool, if you can't get off the stool, that's the end of the fight. | ||
| You can't stand there for another minute. | ||
| You can't stand there for another minute. | ||
| Laborio is such a nice guy, too. | ||
| He's right, though. | ||
| He's right. | ||
| He's 100% right. | ||
| He's right. | ||
| But I think, like I said, I think there's a bunch of shenanigans that are involved. | ||
| I think there's too much Vaseline on him. | ||
| I think there was water all over him. | ||
| But there's a bunch of shit where they did a bunch of things to make sure that the round got extended. | ||
| How is the dirty business? | ||
| Speaking of dirty business, now that you saw this gone, how is this new testing thing? | ||
| Well, Walt Harris just got popped, right? | ||
| Yeah, four years. | ||
| That's a death sentence right there. | ||
| Yeah, you're done. | ||
| Yeah, Walt's already 40. Yeah, that's it. | ||
| And he got popped, allegedly, I should say, from what the report was that I read on one of the websites. | ||
| It was like three different things, three different times. | ||
| Yo, when you're 40, shit doesn't work so good. | ||
| Right, you kind of need it. | ||
| Yeah, it's kind of weird. | ||
| Like, we know this stuff really works, but you're not allowed to use it. | ||
| 48 months sanction for two separate violations of the UFC anti-doping policy. | ||
| First tested positive. | ||
| What is that? | ||
| Tell me what that is. | ||
| No, Rollo. | ||
| Rollo knows what it is. | ||
| Where is it? | ||
| Draw standalone. | ||
| What is that? | ||
| Fuck all you guys. | ||
| I just think you're good at those words. | ||
| Metabolite 3A, hydroxy 2A, methyl 5A, androstan 17-on, and testosterone of exogenous origin. | ||
| And samples collected on June 24, 2023, July 12, 2023. Harris was notified of the first adverse finding on July 11th of 2020. So they told him that he got popped the first time and then he tested positive the next day. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Subsequently, after he was notified of the adverse finding, he provided urine and blood samples on August 6, 2023. Urine samples tested positive for the presence of anastrozolone, a prohibitive substance that was not present in any of the previous samples, as well as drostanolone and its metabolite. | ||
| His blood samples tested positive for the presence of exogenous testosterone. | ||
| Which based on its values was determined as a new administration since the notification of his first adverse findings on July 11th. | ||
| So I wasn't taking the test that day. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Four years, that's a life sentence. | ||
| And how old is he now? | ||
| 40. He was supposed to fight like four days after that. | ||
| It seems kind of crazy that he would just take all that stuff knowing that they were going to catch him. | ||
| Have you ever asked Nowitzki why they made BPC-157 illegal? | ||
| Like, it's not a performance enhancer. | ||
| Because some state regulators, like, you know, athletic commissions, they have it illegal. | ||
| Ah, alright, alright. | ||
| So if the UFC allows something that the athletic commissions don't allow, it really should be allowed by the athletic commissions. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| It's all it's doing is helping people heal from injuries. | ||
| That's all it is? | ||
| So it's that the states are... | ||
| And it's a naturally occurring compound in the human body. | ||
| It's an amino acid. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So it's something that should be legal, and I think the FDA is trying to stop its use now, too, which is crazy. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Anything that works. | ||
| Yeah, right. | ||
| Well, listen, you fuckheads, just sell it to us. | ||
| Just fucking sell it. | ||
| Don't be stupid. | ||
| There's a lot of money to be made. | ||
| I'll help you. | ||
| Just fucking make it legal and sell it. | ||
| It's good. | ||
| It's really good for injuries. | ||
| Really good for injuries, man. | ||
| Yeah, there's a bunch of stuff like that that should be legal. | ||
| The testosterone one, those boys went wild, and they fucked it up for everybody. | ||
| The TRT Vitor era. | ||
| Oh, yeah! | ||
| Those boys went wild! | ||
| Those boys went wild. | ||
| When you just take testosterone replacement, everybody's like, oh, I definitely have low testosterone. | ||
| Hook it up. | ||
| Eric Silva, he was another one that really noticeably changed. | ||
| Oh, a lot of dudes did. | ||
| Bro, we had guys that were 25 years old that were signing up for testosterone use exemptions. | ||
| That's gonna fuck them up when they're older though, no? | ||
| 100%, but that was the thing. | ||
| A lot of those guys were already fucked up, because they did juice. | ||
| So if you're a young guy and you do like a bunch of cycles of juice and you get Gigantor, that is gonna jack up your system. | ||
| It takes a long time to recover. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| Yeah, so there's dudes that are like 25 years old that have wrecked their endocrine system, and they probably can't have kids. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, they have low sperm count. | ||
| Yeah, it can fuck you up. | ||
| When you see these social media kids that are like 18, 19 years old, and then all of a sudden when they're 22, they've gained 80 pounds of muscle, and they have zits all over their back, and they're fucking huge, and they're getting all this attention because they're massive. | ||
| And there's quite a few of these kids. | ||
| They're gonna ruin their body. | ||
| They're gonna ruin their endocrine system. | ||
| You're shocking your system at a very, very young age. | ||
| When you're on TRT, it's like fucking birth control for men. | ||
| I have been pulled out in years, son! | ||
| And I was able to... | ||
| I was able to... | ||
| I could have a kid. | ||
| When I want to have a kid, I don't know if it's because I go Commando forever, I'd have a kid. | ||
| My wife, I want to get pregnant. | ||
| I'm like, all right. | ||
| It worked. | ||
| So I know we were good to go, but ever since I'm on TRT... Isn't it funny? | ||
| Because the other idea for male birth control is the opposite. | ||
| There's a male birth control pill that came out that radically lowers testosterone levels. | ||
| Oh, fuck that. | ||
| But how many... | ||
| Hold on, why would you take that? | ||
| How many... | ||
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How many dominant women... | |
| Who have cucked men are going to force them to take that stuff. | ||
| Slipping that shit in their oatmeal. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Force them. | ||
| Force them to take it. | ||
| Force them. | ||
| None of that. | ||
| Why would anybody take that? | ||
| Because they don't want that as the wife. | ||
| They want the alpha. | ||
| Yeah, but they want to do that to the guy. | ||
| Some women like doing that. | ||
| They like doing that. | ||
| To curb them? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They'll turn you trans. | ||
| They'll do whatever they want to you. | ||
| They'll drain your bank account. | ||
| Leave you broken. | ||
| Bye! | ||
| Turn your trends. | ||
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Screw that. | |
| Yeah, they'll make you. | ||
| It's just as there's certain people. | ||
| It's like your Kardashian skit. | ||
| Yeah, you gotta wonder, man. | ||
| Trying to be like a young kid in this day and age with social media, trying to be an 18, 19-year-old kid trying to fan your way through life, seeing these juiced-up, gigantic dudes getting attention, and girls with lip fillers at 18 years old, and everybody's got a Ferrari. | ||
| I think it's harder for them than it was for us, right? | ||
| Because of social media? | ||
| Way harder. | ||
| It's way harder because there's so much... | ||
| Chaos out there, like the guy getting shot in the dick. | ||
| You see things all the time that was really hard to see when we were kids. | ||
| Because I only knew motherfuckers in my neighborhood. | ||
| They got shot in the dick? | ||
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No, no, no. | |
| I'm talking about just in general. | ||
| You only hung out with people in your neighborhood. | ||
| That was it. | ||
| And if you saw someone on TV that was like in a MTV music video or something like that, like that, okay. | ||
| But that's not even real world. | ||
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Right. | |
| That's not the real world. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But if it's like some guy you know from your school now has a million followers on TikTok, like what? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You made $100,000. | ||
| What the fuck are you talking about? | ||
| How? | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| Maybe because I got my kids homeschooled ever since the pandemic because we didn't want them wearing masks and all that shit. | ||
| My wife's lucky enough that, you know, we're lucky enough she gets to be a stay-at-home mom and whatnot. | ||
| Oh, I got ADD. What were we just... | ||
| Kids shooting people in the dicks. | ||
| People being able to see things that they never could see when we were kids. | ||
| And your kids are homeschooled. | ||
| Oh, yeah, this is what... | ||
| Sorry, I'm back. | ||
| It was... | ||
| The Zin's kicking in. | ||
| It was... | ||
| You know, we keep them close. | ||
| Like, nowadays, if they go to school all day, one, What the fuck are they telling these kids? | ||
| It's weird enough. | ||
| My friend's kid came home the other day and he's like, oh man, he's 10 years old. | ||
| He's like, oh dad, so when I grow up I could be a boy or a girl? | ||
| It's fucking... | ||
| My buddy's like a religious guy. | ||
| He's like, ah, fuck! | ||
| The guy moved to South Carolina. | ||
| He got the fuck out of New Long Island. | ||
| So I don't know where it is in different school systems, but I didn't like stuff like that. | ||
| It's not like when we were kids at school. | ||
| That stuff is so weird. | ||
| It's fucking strange. | ||
| But it just shows you that whatever is socially popular, people will gravitate to and that people will change their behavior based on what gets them more attention. | ||
| That's why I'm saying like... | ||
| Some of them are definitely trans. | ||
| Let's be... | ||
| That shit's existed since the beginning of time. | ||
| Men who feel like they were born in a woman's body. | ||
| But some of them are getting sucked into a social contagion. | ||
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The majority of them. | |
| They think it's cool to be bi. | ||
| What are you? | ||
| Dude, it's just fucking weird. | ||
| If you want street cred, you've got to suck a dick. | ||
| Whether it's a transgender dick or a regular dick, you've got to experiment and suck a dick if you want some street cred. | ||
| No, I don't want a street cred. | ||
| No street cred to me. | ||
| That's what I think. | ||
| Today, they've gone to places where 50% of the kids identify as LGBTQA. 50%! | ||
| Really? | ||
| 50%? | ||
| That's a joke. | ||
| If they're not being indoctrinated, then this never happens. | ||
| Well, it's just fascinating that it's working. | ||
| That's what's fascinating. | ||
| And when you look at the people, like, look, if you're going to pay someone 35 grand a year to take care of your kids, they're not going to be good people that are like dominant in their field and really on the ball. | ||
| You're going to get wacky people teaching kids. | ||
| And a lot of these people that are teaching kids in public schools that you see making these TikTok videos, they're wacky people that just happen to be in the position where they're running a school. | ||
| As a parent, though, I think you should just keep them close and just talk to them every day. | ||
| Yeah, you definitely need to talk to them, but, you know, they're gonna have to talk to other people, too. | ||
| And there's something about, like, running into really cuckoo people when you're young that's probably good for you, just so you know that they exist. | ||
| The problem is if they have too much influence over your kid and your kid starts believing things that they're saying and they indoctrinate you into some weird way of thinking that maybe you don't align with in your home and you don't want your child being raised that way, which is your prerogative as a person. | ||
| But also the kids should be exposed to a lot of weird shit. | ||
| It's good for them to see kooky people. | ||
| I think that's where me and Matt have a benefit because we're the kooky people that our kids see. | ||
| Yeah, we all are, right? | ||
| There's no way to avoid that. | ||
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If you're interested in what we're interested in. | |
| That's true, right? | ||
| I always preface things when people ask me my opinions. | ||
| I'm like, listen, I'm a dirty comedian and a cage fighting commentator. | ||
| With that said, this is my dumbass perspective. | ||
| But understand who the fuck you're talking to. | ||
| Loosely educated at best. | ||
| Think about that. | ||
| Dirty comedian and you commentate fights. | ||
| Yeah, that's a perspective to... | ||
| Yeah, that's a person of questionable judgment. | ||
| Highly unnormal. | ||
| Communication's everything, though. | ||
| I don't remember my parents talking to me. | ||
| My kid's 15 now. | ||
| Dude, when I was 15, I'm sleeping over Jimmy's house. | ||
| I'd be walking the fucking streets, fighting and doing stuff. | ||
| I'm 15! | ||
| I can't think of it, my kid. | ||
| I never not know where she is. | ||
| I think it was a different time, Matt. | ||
| And I think their parents raised them in a different way. | ||
| It takes a while to understand why your parents raised you the way they raised you. | ||
| But it's because the way they were raised. | ||
| Look, my grandparents were straight up immigrants from Italy and from Ireland. | ||
| They're all people from the boat. | ||
| And those were wild people. | ||
| Those people that took a chance and got on that fucking boat and made it across the ocean. | ||
| Yeah, a bunch of wild people. | ||
| And they didn't have a whole lot of time for parenting. | ||
| You know, and then their kids grew up and had kids and then their kids had kids. | ||
| It's like it takes a while for everybody to settle down. | ||
| I think people are... | ||
| We have way more information today than ever before, which is probably good for kids. | ||
| It's good to be aware of all the different types of humans and all the different possibilities of good and bad things that can happen in the world. | ||
| But also, it's got to be overwhelming, man. | ||
| It's got to be overwhelming to be a kid and to think you've got to worry about climate change and Ukraine and Russia and fucking Mexicans. | ||
| It's just every day it's something new. | ||
| That's the thing. | ||
| The phone puts it in their face all day every day. | ||
| Every day it's something new. | ||
| We didn't have any of that shit. | ||
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Biden falling down the flight stairs, Trump calling somebody a pussy. | |
| It's every day. | ||
| It's like this is crazy. | ||
| Yeah, life is fun now. | ||
| It is definitely fun if you're an adult. | ||
| If you're an adult and you're not being affected negatively by it. | ||
| Well, because we, like you said, we come up from a different generation where we didn't grow up doing that. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So we can live without it. | ||
| We're also, all of us are in wild businesses. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is a wild business. | ||
| You're in the business of people beating the shit out of each other. | ||
| You know, this is a wild business. | ||
| It's a wild business. | ||
| It's funny that it is where it is now. | ||
| Like, I remember coming up, we were talking about before being OGs, like, I remember each fight thinking, alright, this might be the last one, and it's gonna be done. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| So now it's just such a mainstream thing. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| I remember very clearly Eddie Bravo and I were having a conversation, and it's almost like we manifested this. | ||
| We said, dude, we know MMA is awesome. | ||
| Wouldn't it be crazy if just some fucking billionaire dudes who were fans of the sport just dumped a bunch of money in it just to show everybody, and then it would just catch on. | ||
| I was like, if somebody just came along, that would work, man. | ||
| That's the only way it would work. | ||
| Somebody would have to lose tons and tons of money just to get it out there. | ||
| And that's what they did. | ||
| It's literally like it was manifested. | ||
| Lorenzo and Frank Fatida. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| And they just really loved it. | ||
| They loved it. | ||
| They trained. | ||
| They were tough guys. | ||
| They loved it. | ||
| They lost like 50, 60 million before they made money. | ||
| That's how much they loved it. | ||
| They were down more than 40 million when the first Ultimate Fighter came around. | ||
| And they funded that whole thing. | ||
| They funded the whole thing. | ||
| They just rolled the dice and came up double six. | ||
| For real? | ||
| Yeah, when you think about the chain of events that had to have to happen. | ||
| That made it. | ||
| The Fertittas, then the Forrest fight, and then just everything that happened. | ||
| And you have to have a guy like Dana. | ||
| You have to have a complete maniac running the show. | ||
| You have to have a guy like that. | ||
| People don't understand how much of a maniac he is. | ||
| Like in cycle in terms of like his work ethic. | ||
| Oh, he's a maniac. | ||
| I mean, that's pretty obvious. | ||
| The guy works constantly. | ||
| He loves it. | ||
| He loves setting fights up. | ||
| We'll talk at two o'clock in the morning for like hours just about match-ups and shit. | ||
| Did you see the other day on the podcast when the girls... | ||
| She's interviewing them, right? | ||
| And she's like, tell me, what does Joe Rogan think of whatever it was? | ||
| And he's like, what does Joe Rogan think? | ||
| She goes, Dana White. | ||
| He goes, wait, you think I'm Joe Rogan? | ||
| He goes, I came in through this podcast. | ||
| You know that UFC events, like the weeks of the events or when I'm doing a looking for a fight. | ||
| You've been there. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| I have a picture of this and that. | ||
| I'm like, oh, well. | ||
| All right. | ||
| And, you know, thanks a lot, Mr. Waido. | ||
| Thanks a lot. | ||
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They always think he's either Joe or Dana. | |
| People call me Dana. | ||
| I've been called Dana before, so I'm doing, it's all Dana! | ||
| I go, no, I'm the other dude. | ||
| What the hell is this? | ||
| It happens all the time. | ||
| But I think she just made a mental fluff. | ||
| Are they trying to say all bald white guys look alike? | ||
| When you're doing a podcast and you're interviewing someone, especially if you haven't done a lot of them and it's like a high profile thing, you're doing Dana White, you're always thinking of what to say. | ||
| Even the question is like, what's your dream? | ||
| That's a crazy question. | ||
| That's like, I don't know what to ask you. | ||
| What's your dream? | ||
| So she's probably floundering a little bit there and doesn't know what to say. | ||
| It's fucking weird having a conversation with someone live. | ||
| But I think he handled it the right way, right? | ||
| By making fun of it. | ||
| Yeah, and she handled it the right way, too. | ||
| She kept it in there. | ||
| She edited it out. | ||
| It's funny. | ||
| It is funny. | ||
| It's just a flub. | ||
| I've done it all the time. | ||
| It happens. | ||
| People fucked up. | ||
| It wouldn't have been funny if they called fucking Dean Thomas Pete Spratt or something. | ||
| That would be fucking racist. | ||
| I wouldn't laugh at that shit. | ||
| Somebody called you Pete Spratt? | ||
| No, no, they used to always do that. | ||
| Oh, just for fun. | ||
| Yeah, just for fun. | ||
| Just for fun. | ||
| How about the fuck I took a picture where you thought you were Eve Edwards? | ||
| Don't say that was just for fun. | ||
| Or the one time on Looking for a Fight, Habib really thought I was Eve. | ||
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He was like, you knocked out my teammate. | |
| I'm like, what are you talking about? | ||
| He's like, Josh Thompson. | ||
| I was like, no, man, that was Eve. | ||
| That's what it was. | ||
| Isn't it wild how Khabib just said, nope, done. | ||
| See ya. | ||
| Bye. | ||
| Promise my mom, I'm done. | ||
| I mean, when you're that good, and your life is... | ||
| Pretty incredible, though. | ||
| What a legacy, right? | ||
| Undefeated. | ||
| Only one fight was kind of close. | ||
| The Gleason-Tebow fight. | ||
| Go back and watch that one. | ||
| I thought Gleason might have won that one. | ||
| It was arguable. | ||
| If they gave it to him, nobody would protest. | ||
| It was close. | ||
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Pre-USADA. Pre-USADA. That's true. | |
| My man, Gleason, was built like a fucking superhero. | ||
| Like a fucking Teletubby on steroids. | ||
| That was those Sean Shirk days, son. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The muscle shark. | ||
| The muscle shark. | ||
| Remember Shirk? | ||
| Shirk was a little fucking demon. | ||
| He was a little fireplug. | ||
| Demon. | ||
| Shirk was one of the first guys that had preposterous strength and conditioning. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| His strength and conditioning. | ||
| Him and Rich Franklin. | ||
| They would do these strength. | ||
| Look at Glaeson. | ||
| He's a Brazilian hero. | ||
| Look at his biceps. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| The thing about Glaeson that always used to freak me out was the fact that he could make 155. I know. | ||
| I was like, how? | ||
| Because I would stand next to him. | ||
| I'm like, how are you? | ||
| You're so much bigger than me. | ||
| How the fuck are you 155? | ||
| It doesn't make any sense. | ||
| And Glaeson got him down in this one, didn't he? | ||
| A couple times. | ||
| Glaeson, he hurt him on the feet. | ||
| Glaeson was a dangerous fighter, man. | ||
| Whatever happened to Glaeson? | ||
| Well, you know, he got older, had a lot of wars, you know. | ||
| Didn't Islam KO him? | ||
| Islam KO'd him, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, Islam KO'd him bad. | ||
| It was a bad one. | ||
| He's had a few KO losses. | ||
| He's a tough dude, though. | ||
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Yeah, and he fought, I think, a few times in PFL or something. | |
| But they're going to war. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Gleason was a house, though. | ||
| The thing is, Khabib looks natural and he looks fucking... | ||
| But look, he can't take Gleason down, which is crazy. | ||
| That's how strong Gleason was. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, Khabib takes everybody down. | ||
| But Khabib looks smaller then. | ||
| Yeah, he does, doesn't he? | ||
| Physically? | ||
| No doubt about it. | ||
| He's much smaller. | ||
| You look at him and now look at him against Conor. | ||
| Let's just look at this right now. | ||
| Pause this. | ||
| Now go to Khabib versus Conor. | ||
| How old was he here? | ||
| He looks young. | ||
| Well, he's young, one of the first fights in the UFC, but made a marked improvement in that department. | ||
| Because he looked way stronger later in his career. | ||
| Like when he fought Gaethje, he looked way stronger. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Way stronger. | ||
| Developed that man strength. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Six years later, too. | |
| Six years later, that's a big thing. | ||
| Yeah, look at him there. | ||
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Come on, bro. | |
| That's a different dude. | ||
| Look at the difference, man. | ||
| Oh, 100%. | ||
| Go back to that picture again. | ||
| Yeah, he's all smooth here. | ||
| Now go to another one. | ||
| The other one that you just showed me. | ||
| Look at him, bro. | ||
| That's that man's strength there. | ||
| That's also I want to kill you motivation. | ||
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Yeah, it is. | |
| I mean, he got in fucking shape for Conor. | ||
| When he's standing on top of him, punching him, let's talk now. | ||
| Let's talk now. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I was surprised Conor didn't quit at that moment because he was getting his ass whooped. | ||
| I don't think Conor's ever going to do that. | ||
| Well, Conor did say to him, you know, it's just business or something. | ||
| And then he said something like, no, I didn't say that. | ||
| He definitely did. | ||
| He gets a lot of fucking... | ||
| He was probably a little rattled. | ||
| I mean, it wasn't going his way. | ||
| He did win a round, but it seemed like it was a round that Khabib took off. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Khabib kind of coasted for a round and then got back on him again. | ||
| Khabib just knew how to wear you out, man. | ||
| That thousand-yard stare that dudes would have when he'd grab ahold of him. | ||
| Look, Edson Barboza, that's the best one. | ||
| Look at his eyes. | ||
| Yeah, Edson or Michael Johnson. | ||
| I was going, please tap. | ||
| I was anticipating that spiral fracture that guys get when they don't tap to the Kimura. | ||
| I don't like that. | ||
| Kimura's an ugly break. | ||
| Minotauro vs. | ||
| Frank Mee is the ugliest example of that. | ||
| Don't be stubborn with that, man. | ||
| I saw it in a jiu-jitsu tournament. | ||
| I don't like that. | ||
| Recently online. | ||
| Some kid snapped. | ||
| His arm just goes limp. | ||
| It's horrible. | ||
| It's horrible. | ||
| And it happened quick, too, man. | ||
| The guy just turned it. | ||
| He turned the corner. | ||
| It just popped right in his arm. | ||
| And he goes like this and backs up. | ||
| Oh, it's awful. | ||
| I had a guy the other day. | ||
| Listen, people fall asleep all the time. | ||
| You know what happens? | ||
| Our goal is to, you know, put someone to sleep or get a limb. | ||
| So sometimes if the guy's a little stubborn, you know, an arm lock or, you know, usually it's like, ah, you know, and they'll stop, if anything. | ||
| But with the choke, sometimes you don't know. | ||
| So the bread cutter, you know the bread cutter? | ||
| Fucking when the arm's down like this? | ||
| I love that fucking one. | ||
| It's so good. | ||
| One of my black belts, Gord, he went with this other guy. | ||
| Now this other guy, Syed's a strong fucking... | ||
| Like, Middle Eastern guy. | ||
| And he's... | ||
| Dude, he's not in that quick tap club. | ||
| And it's not good. | ||
| See, this is the second time he went out. | ||
| But this time when he goes out, I go over. | ||
| Like, you know, you pick up the legs. | ||
| So I go over to him. | ||
| And I always usually make a joke. | ||
| And like, you know, because they usually come right back. | ||
| So I'm like, hey, look, I'm in your bedroom. | ||
| Hey, remember I slept over. | ||
| You know what I'm thinking? | ||
| And he's looking at me. | ||
| Dude, in 30 years, I've never seen one like this. | ||
| Because I don't know how long this guy had him out. | ||
| His eyes were open. | ||
| He looked like a fucking zombie. | ||
| He's got my wrist. | ||
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He's going... | |
| I'm like, whoa! | ||
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And I go, say it! | |
| And he's like, oh! | ||
| His eyes will, like he was out but not. | ||
| He might have been out for a while. | ||
| And he had my wrist. | ||
| I thought it was you fucking grabbing me. | ||
| I go, hey, dude. | ||
| I had a neon belly on him. | ||
| I'm like, don't let go of his legs. | ||
| I didn't want him to move. | ||
| It actually was starting to scare me a little bit. | ||
| How long did it take before he came back? | ||
| It felt like fucking eternity. | ||
| It was a few seconds. | ||
| And his eyes would just open the whole time. | ||
| I'm like, dude, is this fucking... | ||
| What am I dealing with here? | ||
| And then he started to... | ||
| The whole time he's clenching his... | ||
| He's got my wrist. | ||
| And I go, dude, are you back? | ||
| Did you sign a waiver? | ||
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No, I didn't say... | |
| I go, uh... | ||
| He was okay. | ||
| He was alright. | ||
| And then the best was... | ||
| That guy Gord's a big, sweetheart of a guy. | ||
| He's like a half a hippie, you know? | ||
| He looks like Kung Fu Panda. | ||
| He's been calling me later. | ||
| He goes, you know, I haven't seen Syed since. | ||
| Is he alright? | ||
| He goes, come to think of it, nobody's seen this motherfucker. | ||
| I go, Sue, check up on this guy. | ||
| My girl, check up on him. | ||
| He came back the next day. | ||
| He was fucking fine. | ||
| Nobody's seen him. | ||
| He might have been a little embarrassed. | ||
| Nah, he's a nice guy. | ||
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I go, listen. | |
| Then I found out, it was like the second time he went out. | ||
| I go, dude, you can't. | ||
| I go, this is a tap. | ||
| You gotta tap. | ||
| I go, and I go, Henzo, because listen, it happens once in a while. | ||
| It happened to me once. | ||
| I don't know if it ever happened to you guys. | ||
| You ever get put to sleep? | ||
| I never got put to sleep. | ||
| I was a purple belt in the city, and I was going with this other purple belt. | ||
| I didn't even like this guy. | ||
| This guy's a little prick. | ||
| I'll tell you his name of the ass. | ||
| I don't want to give him any street cred, right? | ||
| He was a purple from Pennsylvania. | ||
| Never liked him. | ||
| I would always best him. | ||
| But he was just like a dicky dude. | ||
| So he was trying to fucking... | ||
| And he was not bad at jiu-jitsu. | ||
| So he's in my guard trying to strangle me. | ||
| Amateur move, you know, feet and hips, flipped them over, mounted them, fell asleep. | ||
| Motherfucker had it on still, you know? | ||
| So I'm like, what the fuck? | ||
| Henzo like woke me up. | ||
| He didn't want to make a scene. | ||
| He goes, nah, nah, he's okay. | ||
| So then the guy went back after me, and I woke up like during it. | ||
| I'm like, what the fuck? | ||
| And then I kind of, then I realized what's going on. | ||
| I fucked him up. | ||
| But I remember afterwards... | ||
| Wait a minute, wait a minute. | ||
| So they didn't stop the match? | ||
| No, it was during the whole night of rolling. | ||
| No, it wasn't a match. | ||
| It was us just training on a whatever night. | ||
| It was back to the Gracie Kukuk days. | ||
| Craig Kukuk days. | ||
| He's the guy that had those videotapes, right? | ||
| I learned jiu-jitsu from him. | ||
| I learned a solid amount of skating in that. | ||
| He was my first instructor. | ||
| I got my blue belt under Craig. | ||
| Craig came to New Jersey first, and Henzo came two years later. | ||
| And then later on, they ended up having a split, and Henzo came to me. | ||
| You know the story. | ||
| Where'd that Ku Klux guy go? | ||
| Idaho or something. | ||
| Yeah, I think he is in Idaho. | ||
| He was a very good instructor. | ||
| He was under Horion and Hoyce, and then they disowned him for some business reasons, you know? | ||
| How weird. | ||
| When I seen shit like that, I had like a newsletter of the Gracie newsletter. | ||
| I was like a 17-year-old. | ||
| Because my father was a martial artist. | ||
| This is before Black Belt magazine days. | ||
| So I'm like, wait. | ||
| So then I found out they did something at Black Belt where he was going to be in a... | ||
| New Jersey doing one day a week in Manhattan at Oishi's Judo Club down in the village over there. | ||
| So I go, I gotta take advantage of this. | ||
| I knew they kicked him out, but I knew they already awarded him, so there he is! | ||
| Big German guy. | ||
| He was a very good teacher. | ||
| So my foundation is like... | ||
| How long ago was this, Jamie? | ||
| Does it say down there when it was uploaded? | ||
| This is probably 90s. | ||
| 11 years early 90s. | ||
| This is from the 92, though. | ||
| Oh, the video's from 92? | ||
| The video was re-uploaded and remastered 11 years ago. | ||
| This is very old, though. | ||
| It was a DVD, so it wouldn't be a video. | ||
| Oh, interesting. | ||
| And it's funny, because when he started training, he didn't like the gi. | ||
| He's like, I don't even own a gi. | ||
| He's that guy. | ||
| But he was a very good teacher. | ||
| He learned how to whore in on hoist. | ||
| But the problem was he wasn't a very personable guy. | ||
| Like he was... | ||
| Like you could never get too close to the guy. | ||
| And him and Henzo had like a falling out business-wise. | ||
| And I was almost... | ||
| I felt... | ||
| I was a young kid at the time. | ||
| So I remember Henzo took me out to eat afterwards. | ||
| And he goes, look, one day after training... | ||
| And he told me. | ||
| He goes, look... | ||
| Now that I got my green card, I'm getting away from this motherfucker. | ||
| And he goes, if you go with him... | ||
| So that guy tried to kind of cockblock his green card. | ||
| Yeah, it wasn't as good. | ||
| And then I remember Henzo going, if you go with him, some guys will go just because of you. | ||
| Nobody likes this motherfucker. | ||
| Henzo goes, if you go with him... | ||
| He goes, but I want you to come with me, and this and that. | ||
| It wasn't even a choice. | ||
| Because Henzo was like family. | ||
| And I'm a loyal guy. | ||
| I felt like parents were breaking up a little bit. | ||
| But like... | ||
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But Henzo is a gem. | |
| I want him to run for president. | ||
| I want him to run for president. | ||
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You can't have Brazilian citizens run for president in America, unfortunately. | |
| He's a great human being. | ||
| Isn't that kind of weird? | ||
| You could live here, but you can't run it. | ||
| We just want to make sure we don't get some foreign infiltrators. | ||
| It's like some old-school espionage shit. | ||
| Someone takes their child, this is going to be the next president to destroy the world. | ||
| He's the best. | ||
| No, I mean, Enzo, he's such a great human being. | ||
| He's done so much for me. | ||
| He's the best. | ||
| Everybody loves Enzo. | ||
| I've never met anybody who doesn't. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| And the thing about Henzo is the nicest fucking guy there is. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, he's the best. | ||
| He'll switch it in a heartbeat. | ||
| In a half a second. | ||
| In a fucking half a second. | ||
| Listen, he was in a... | ||
| Really quick. | ||
| He was with his son, Huron, who's a sweet kid. | ||
| And he told this story on my podcast, but I'll try to do it justice. | ||
| He's the best storyteller. | ||
| They pulled into a gas station, right? | ||
| And he was in a little sports car that he was giving to his son, Huron. | ||
| And then somebody, there was some guys, some street guys going, you know, that's a chick's car, something like that, right? | ||
| And he saw his son's face get a little sad. | ||
| So he gets out, he goes, hey, come, see the size of my vagina! | ||
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He goes, come on! | |
| Let's see. | ||
| And he goes, oh! | ||
| He don't got no... | ||
| Hanzo's a fucking nut. | ||
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Come on, man. | |
| He's fucking nuts. | ||
| I always get into drama, too. | ||
| Yeah, Hanzo don't give a fuck, man. | ||
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Hanzo... | |
| Like, my first shoot-fighting match... | ||
| Like, I... My first time ever fighting in a cage. | ||
| It was at Big Dan. | ||
| You know Big Dan, the ref? | ||
| He used to have shoot-fighting matches. | ||
| I remember. | ||
| At his school in Elizabeth, New Jersey. | ||
| It was like Bama Fight Nights or something like that. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| So, my first time ever as a Purple Belt... | ||
| First time ever doing any kind of combat. | ||
| I did a jiu-jitsu tournament, but I never fought before. | ||
| So he came, and it was like a three-week notice thing, but I was always in shape. | ||
| So I asked Henzel, you know, what do you do like the day of the fight? | ||
| I was a little nervous, you know, and I'm thinking the crazies with their diet and this and that. | ||
| He goes, this is what you do. | ||
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You go to GNC, you get the Rippin Fuel. | |
| Get one of those, you feel good all day. | ||
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So back then, there's the Fedra back then. | |
| So I'm like, all right, Rippin Fuel, right? | ||
| Again, I took one on backstage and stuff going on. | ||
| I'm a little nervous. | ||
| I took another one. | ||
| Oh no. | ||
| Let me do one more. | ||
| I'm fucking, I don't know what this stuff is. | ||
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Henzo's. | |
| So I took like fucking three. | ||
| So I fought some kid from Virginia who was like a blue belt level or something. | ||
| And this was with rope escapes. | ||
| So I went out there fucking, kind of like I am now. | ||
| So I fucking like all hyped up. | ||
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Boom. | |
| Took him down. | ||
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Bah. | |
| Rear naked choke. | ||
| He grabs the rope. | ||
| So I get him in two seconds, he gets out, so I get a point, but then they started on, so I started over, I take him down again, he starts clamming up, there's no striking on the floor in the face. | ||
| So it goes the distance, because I'm exhausted, I got exhausted because of the fucking, my heart wouldn't stop. | ||
| Afterwards, I couldn't even walk back, I'm like, dude, this fighting is exhausting, meanwhile it's the fucking Ephedra. | ||
| After the fight, Bart Vow. | ||
| You know who Bart Vow is? | ||
| He was one of the refs. | ||
| Somehow he knew Dan through the shoot fighting. | ||
| Him and Henzo were supposed to fight. | ||
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I remember that, yeah. | |
| One and done event. | ||
| It was like a UFC wannabe, but Henzo fought three times in one night. | ||
| And that guy fought for some Hawaiian guy, and they both got injured. | ||
| He got out. | ||
| But he was a big... | ||
| He looked like a big fucking... | ||
| He gave me my first cauliflower ear. | ||
| He's got a nice mullet. | ||
| It's like Rollo with a mullet. | ||
| Didn't he have a crazy mustache? | ||
| Yeah, he had a crazy mustache. | ||
| I saw Bart Vale. | ||
| Henzo was in my corner, so afterwards... | ||
| He's a big dude. | ||
| He's like 50 or so. | ||
| Henzo, so afterwards, he saw... | ||
| Even though we went the distance, I won because I got the choke. | ||
| So Bart Vale was going like that. | ||
| Enzo jumps up on the... | ||
| There he is. | ||
| Enzo thought he was going, me and you? | ||
| Enzo thought he was calling Enzo. | ||
| Enzo went over there to fucking go jump on. | ||
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Really? | |
| Yeah, yeah, fuck yeah! | ||
| I mean, he was a big dude, man. | ||
| Oh, he was a massive dude. | ||
| And he was in the early, early days of bare-knuckle MMA. It was like something out of Fraga Rock or something. | ||
| I remember that event. | ||
| That's like Eric Paulson and Matt Hume. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| James Waring. | ||
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Eric Paulson is a very good fighter. | |
| But I mean, it was the same time frame. | ||
| James Waring... | ||
| Fucking schoolyard. | ||
| He fucking wrapped his hair around. | ||
| He's a boxer. | ||
| Yeah, I remember. | ||
| And Eric Paulson's a very complete fighter. | ||
| He's a very well-rounded Jikuno guy. | ||
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Yeah, he cheated. | |
| He'd fight over in Shudo. | ||
| Well, I don't think they would know you're allowed to go back then. | ||
| I mean, he tried to go through the striking side with his grappling experience, Paulson. | ||
| What does that mean? | ||
| Like, they had two divisions. | ||
| It was grapplers and strikers. | ||
| Oh, that's interesting. | ||
| And then the end of it was the guy who won the striking side fought the guy who won the grappling side. | ||
| That's not right, though, because Henzo fought a Judica. | ||
| I mean, they were still fighting, but they had rules on how long you could be on the ground, all that shit. | ||
| Like, I remember. | ||
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Really? | |
| He's cool, Mr. Waring, actually. | ||
| I met him down in Florida. | ||
| Yeah, he's a... | ||
| Nice guy. | ||
| He's on the athletic commission. | ||
| You ever see when Matt Hume fought Pat Militech? | ||
| Oh, that was a good fight. | ||
| I didn't realize how good Matt Hume was. | ||
| Matt Hume was good, good. | ||
| He was very good. | ||
| Yeah, I remember I trained with him in Japan the first time I fought Uno, and he beat the shit out of me. | ||
| I was like, man, I shouldn't even be here. | ||
| Mighty Mouse says he still beats his ass. | ||
| I'm sure. | ||
| And he's like 50. Yeah, I'm sure. | ||
| He's got to be older than 50, man. | ||
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He's got to be older than 50. I'm about to be 50. He might be 60. Matt Hume was good. | |
| He was very good. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I was always fascinated that he didn't continue to fight. | ||
| Remember he did contenders too where they had to grapple like the wrestlers. | ||
| Didn't he? | ||
| Was it Kenny Monday? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Kenny Monday tried to go for his legs. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Whatever like that. | ||
| And that was when Frank Shamrock... | ||
| Kevin Jackson? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Kevin Jackson was in the UFC. Oh, that was in the UFC. That was Dan Henderson. | ||
| Was it Dan Henderson? | ||
| Yeah, he got Dan Henderson. | ||
| He caught him in like an ankle lock. | ||
| Was that when Bustamante fought Erickson? | ||
| No. | ||
| Or was that a different event? | ||
| Different event. | ||
| That was a different event. | ||
| That was an MMA event. | ||
| That was Mars. | ||
| Yeah, Mars. | ||
| Yeah, 30 minute time limit. | ||
| He fought Tom Erickson for 45 minutes. | ||
| Murillo Bustamante and Fabio Gagello are two of my all-time favorite Jiu-Jitsu fans. | ||
| Me too. | ||
| I'm with you. | ||
| I remember that. | ||
| Because he tapped him out and Big John stopped the fight. | ||
| I thought Bustamante beat Chuck Liddell in that fight too. | ||
| Me too! | ||
| I thought he outstruck him. | ||
| I thought he won that fight. | ||
| Boy, I'd have to go back and watch that again. | ||
| You know what it was? | ||
| Me too. | ||
| He was a beast. | ||
| He was so comfortable on the back. | ||
| Sometimes Chuck would do a punch and he'd go back with it. | ||
| The optics were a little weird. | ||
| But I think that guy... | ||
| What I love about those guys is that if you've seen those guys in Abu Dhabi, you've seen them in a jiu-jitsu tournament, you've seen them in MMA, their jiu-jitsu transitions... | ||
| That's like, who did I just say earlier? | ||
| The young kid. | ||
| Not young kid, he's younger than me, I guess. | ||
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| Here's Bustamante and Chuck. | ||
| Here's Bustamante and Chuck right here. | ||
| And Bustamante was an 85er, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is a crazy fight, if you think about it. | ||
| How many times did Bustamante fight 205? | ||
| He was pretty... | ||
| I mean, for a jujitsu guy, he was pretty well-rounded, especially for that time. | ||
| For that time, for sure he was. | ||
| None of the guys would be on their feet. | ||
| He was awesome, real Bustamante. | ||
| And people sleep on Chuck. | ||
| They didn't realize Chuck was a wrestler. | ||
| That was a good right hand by Chuck, though. | ||
| Chuck got the touch of death don't you that's what like but Chuck when he hung in there too long like I like when the guys What we just talk about it's unfortunate that they don't have a fucking exit strategy, you know And then also, if you've had a bunch of wars, you're probably not thinking so good anymore. | ||
| It's hard to muster up the mental energy to create a new career. | ||
| It's hard to accept the fact that you ain't as good as you used to be. | ||
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Very hard. | |
| They don't accept it. | ||
| Very hard. | ||
| When you're young, you don't think you're ever going to be old. | ||
| Isn't that kind of wild at all? | ||
| Is Fedor still throwing? | ||
| Is he really? | ||
| Did he retire finally in the Ryan Bader fight when he got knocked out the second time? | ||
| I thought he retired, but then I saw him talking about trying to do a boxing match with Tyson or one of those guys. | ||
| That's what, man. | ||
| That dude in his prime was something different. | ||
| Fedor, for sure. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| We have to look at him in the context of what came before him. | ||
| And there was nobody... | ||
| Yeah, there was nothing like him before him, for sure. | ||
| The fact that he could both knock you out and hit submissions from everywhere. | ||
| From everywhere. | ||
| Off his back. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| When Randleman threw him, remember that? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Spiked him on his head and his expression never changed. | ||
| His variety of just being able to do so many different things. | ||
| So many different things. | ||
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So tough. | |
| And his personality. | ||
| How are you starting a podcast? | ||
| There's something about that heavyweight when he could have fought at 205 forever. | ||
| He could have fought at 85. How about that? | ||
| What was he about 230 with that belly? | ||
| He always looked chubby. | ||
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| Accurate man. | ||
| His hand speed was pretty good. | ||
| Phenomenal. | ||
| Yeah, I was with Jeff Munson in Russia when he fought Jeff. | ||
| And man, I've never seen a beating like that. | ||
| And when Jeff was walking out, he really looked like he was going to his death. | ||
| I mean, it was bad. | ||
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That was Fedor when he was really Fedor. | |
| Remember when he walked down Krokop? | ||
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Most of that fight was beating him up. | |
| Okay, Ryan Bader, he said he suffered a TKO in the first round, retiring from MMA after the bout. | ||
| So he says, but that was real recent. | ||
| That was February. | ||
| Yeah, a year ago. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know. | ||
| I mean, I think you could talk some of those guys. | ||
| I just think they just don't like not doing it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The thrill of getting... | ||
| It just gives them a purpose. | ||
| And as they get older, it gets more and more dangerous. | ||
| You get KO'd more often. | ||
| You would think Putin would make him the minister or something like he did with Corolla and stuff. | ||
| You know, give him a job. | ||
| The problem is when you compete that long... | ||
| I know the weirdest feeling for me, I don't know how it was for you or any of you guys, you all competed... | ||
| After the three month to the six month mark of not getting another thing coming up, it's a fucking weird feeling. | ||
| It's like, shouldn't I be calling Joe Silva now and getting another fucking fight? | ||
| What am I... Your purpose. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| It felt weird. | ||
| It felt weird in the beginning. | ||
| For a lot of people, they just can't accept. | ||
| And then if they go and do other stuff and they don't find success in that other thing, then they get it all. | ||
| I could have just made $30,000 for a fight. | ||
| I could have done this. | ||
| I could have done that. | ||
| And then you're watching other dudes make all this money and you're thinking, damn, man. | ||
| Still hang with them, right? | ||
| I still got it and then you got to get a real job There's also the difference between someone who's absolutely obsessed at being the best in the world and someone who's thinking I could probably fight and make money Yeah, it's just not gonna train you're not gonna focus you're not gonna have the same intensity enthusiasm That's the same everything it's you're not gonna. | ||
| You're not gonna be the same guy So even if you used to be that guy when you were younger when you're 20 If you're 27 and you're just doing it for money and you think you're still that guy that you were when you were 20 when you were obsessed with it, you're going to get fucked up. | ||
| You're going to get fucked up. | ||
| Things can go south so quickly, too. | ||
| You could be on a tear. | ||
| Next thing you know, you're down two. | ||
| You're down three. | ||
| Now what do you got? | ||
| Look at Volkanovski. | ||
| Volkanovski before the rematch with Islam Makachev is in dispute as the best pound-for-pound fighter alive, right? | ||
| He almost won that fight, a very close fight. | ||
| Some people thought he could have won, some people thought Islam could have won, but either way, he went up, fought the best fighter in the 155-pound division, and... | ||
| Got to a standstill with him. | ||
| So at that point, you're looking at him, this motherfucker is one of the greatest of all time, probably the best pound-for-pound fighter alive, and then he gets KO'd in the rematch he takes with 10 days notice, which is crazy to take a fight like that with 10 days notice. | ||
| And then he gets KO'd in the fight with Toporia. | ||
| And in two fights over the course of, what was it, seven months, eight months? | ||
| Everything's different. | ||
| Do you think his team did him a disservice running him out there right after? | ||
| Like, that was too soon after Makachev, in my opinion. | ||
| And if they let him run out there again in three or four months, I think they're really doing him a disservice because the light's been turned off twice, and they've got to give him his brain time. | ||
| Yeah, but is that really his team, or that's just him? | ||
| I mean, I guess you do have the final say. | ||
| You do have the final say, and fighters always think they can do anything. | ||
| They always think they can do it. | ||
| They always think they can pull it off. | ||
| Because like you said, he pretty much, at that weight, might have been the best guy ever. | ||
| When Manny Pacquiao got knocked out by Marquez, Freddie Roach said, one year. | ||
| You only take a whole year off if you're not doing anything for a year. | ||
| It was one of the best one-punch knockouts in the history of the sport. | ||
| And Manny was piecing him up until that point, too. | ||
| And the consequences of the fight, you know? | ||
| Their third fight. | ||
| Hindsight's 20-20, though. | ||
| I mean, he could have went in there and fucking knocked him out. | ||
| I mean, what if he got that head kick? | ||
| I mean, he 100% could have, but you're compromised. | ||
| You're not going to be able to compete against a guy like Makachev with no camp. | ||
| You're not gonna be the same guy. | ||
| This is my argument like with Kamaru Usman and Hamzat. | ||
| And everyone's like, Hamzat beat Kamaru. | ||
| I'm like, sort of. | ||
| Sort of. | ||
| Kind of. | ||
| Ten days notice. | ||
| Kamaru wins. | ||
| Yeah, because Kamaru was winning in the third. | ||
| Also, Kamaru didn't have time to prepare. | ||
| He doesn't know, he can't trust his gas tank. | ||
| Fighting up a weight class. | ||
| Fighting up a weight class, but Hamzat was really legit 170 if he could make the weight. | ||
| At 170, Hamzat's the most terrifying guy on the planet. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because he's fucking horrific. | ||
| He knocks you out with one punch. | ||
| He's got crazy... | ||
| Crazy speed. | ||
| Yeah, I was about to say his speed is what is underrated. | ||
| Could you trust him to make the weight though? | ||
| No. | ||
| Can't trust him to do shit. | ||
| Can't trust him to show up. | ||
| The thing about that one weight cut that he missed by eight pounds though, that's New York. | ||
| And they stopped him from cutting the weight. | ||
| You know how they do it. | ||
| Fucking New Yorkers. | ||
| No, some athletic commissions, they intervene a little. | ||
| They get it and they go, oh, he's not going to make it. | ||
| Listen, they can make it. | ||
| It ain't gonna look good, but they can make it. | ||
| How do they get their two cents in? | ||
| They did that with, that's why Al had to fight Khabib, right? | ||
| Because they didn't think Max Holloway was cutting, they didn't want him cutting any more weight. | ||
| Because Max was cutting the weight, and they were like, uh-uh. | ||
| So 24 hours notice, Al steps in. | ||
| And he stepped in like a stud. | ||
| Raging ally. | ||
| He didn't take him down after the second round. | ||
| He was supposed to fight Paul Felder. | ||
| A totally different fight. | ||
| For three rounds. | ||
| Kickboxer. | ||
| He got taken down right away. | ||
| He went with him five rounds and he was in there. | ||
| He was in there and that was without a camp for that. | ||
| He was fighting a three round. | ||
| He wasn't even getting ready for five rounds. | ||
| Personally, that fight to me I thought kind of exposed Khabib a little bit. | ||
| Obviously he's undefeated and all that stuff, but What if he would ever got in there with a dude that had a skill set like George? | ||
| Who could strike, who could defend and take down, who could wrestle with him. | ||
| He did. | ||
| He fought Justin Gaethje. | ||
| Justin Gaethje's a dangerous motherfucker. | ||
| I don't think his wrestling's the same. | ||
| No, he doesn't use his wrestling. | ||
| He doesn't use it to attack. | ||
| But he's hard to take down. | ||
| Justin's very hard to take down. | ||
| And Khabib dominated him in grappling exchanges. | ||
| The thing about George is he's just much bigger. | ||
| George is a big guy. | ||
| George fought 85, beat Michael Bisping, right? | ||
| I know he's not really an 85-er, but George at 170 is a big, strong 170. Oh, 100%. | ||
| And it could be the same kind of deal where, like, when Izzy went up and fought Jan Bohovic. | ||
| It's like you got the 185 pound champ who's a virtuoso, but he's fighting a guy that's just a lot bigger than him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's a lot bigger. | ||
| If you're not going to have the time to prepare and get your body into a position where you're in somewhat similar range and far of strength. | ||
| You know, if you're in these crazy grappling exchanges. | ||
| That's what I say. | ||
| Plus, Izzy just sucks on the ground. | ||
| He's not the best on the ground. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's a fact. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, he's not. | ||
| You know, I mean, which was surprising the first fight with Pajeda when he gets him down. | ||
| You know, crazy, and he had his back. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, he could have did a lot more with that. | ||
| He could have did a lot more with that, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, Alex's level on the ground is not good either. | ||
| You know, but the thing is, he's getting better at defending. | ||
| He's getting a lot better at defending once he gets taken down, and when he's on his feet, he's just a motherfucker to deal with. | ||
| Especially as you slow down a little bit. | ||
| I don't think either of those guys are going for a takedown, to be honest. | ||
| Jamal Hill or Alex? | ||
| But Jamal would be more capable of taking Alex down and doing well on the ground. | ||
| Jamal's not lost on the ground. | ||
| He just is such a good striker. | ||
| He prefers to stand up. | ||
| It's a fucking fun fight. | ||
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I know. | |
| It's a fun fight. | ||
| I'm gonna have goose bumps before that one starts. | ||
| Here we go! | ||
| That's why I don't understand why people were upset about that being the main event. | ||
| Oh my god, they're crazy. | ||
| That's just dorks. | ||
| What the hell did you expect? | ||
| What did you want? | ||
| Where's Connor? | ||
| Do you guys think Connor will fight this year? | ||
| I think so. | ||
| They keep saying he's going to fight. | ||
| They keep saying he's going to fight. | ||
| Keep pushing it back, pushing it back. | ||
| I think so. | ||
| I think after doing that movie and how much he had to put into that movie, I think he's going to want to come back to do something like fighting, something that he loves to do. | ||
| There's the movie curse. | ||
| The Tommy Morrison curse. | ||
| When he became a movie star. | ||
| I remember Tommy Morrison was like the man in boxing. | ||
| He was the Duke. | ||
| He was John Wayne's grandson. | ||
| Your nephew? | ||
| I think he was a nephew or something. | ||
| Nephew or some shit? | ||
| So they would call him the Duke, you know, and everybody thought he was going to be the man. | ||
| And then he did Rocky, and then after Rocky he fought Ray motherfucking Mercer. | ||
| That was a horrible knockout. | ||
| That might be one of the worst knockouts in the history of the worst knockouts. | ||
| And he's out already, and Mercer's keeping him up with punches. | ||
| He's tangled up in the ropes and Mercer's just teeing off with bombs. | ||
| Not to mention Ray Mercer knocked out Tim Sylvia. | ||
| That was when they had agreed to beat boxing only and Sylvia opened up with an inside leg kick and Ray Mercer looks up. | ||
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He was like 46 at the time. | |
| What about Mercer when he fought in Japan? | ||
| Who head kicked him and he just said... | ||
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I'm trying to remember who that was. | |
| Ray Mercer came to the American Top Team when I was with them. | ||
| He came there a few times just to kind of see what MMA was like, yeah. | ||
| There was a few boxers that gave it a go in kickboxing. | ||
| Both Vince Phillips. | ||
| Vince Phillips fought Masato. | ||
| He got his legs kicked, and he was like, nah, I'm straight. | ||
| No, they fought a while. | ||
| He fought a while. | ||
| He got really lit up in the legs, though. | ||
| Real bad. | ||
| Masato was so good, too. | ||
| Butterbean versus Genki Sudo. | ||
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Oh yeah, Genki Tsudo, heel hooked him, right? | |
| Genki Tsudo was a stud. | ||
| Oh fuck yeah, he was. | ||
| He was a good guy. | ||
| He was great. | ||
| You had Abu Dhabi, didn't you? | ||
| No, no. | ||
| I had a training session with all the Japanese guys that were going to Abu Dhabi one year. | ||
| I was in Japan with Henzo, and Henzo was fighting in Pride, so he wanted me and Ricardo Ameda to go with everybody, all the Japanese guys. | ||
| They were filming it. | ||
| They were going over... | ||
| They were all getting together, all the Abu Dhabi team together, grappling session. | ||
| They were gonna film stuff. | ||
| So he goes, I want you and Hikaru to go down there. | ||
| It'll be good for you. | ||
| And meanwhile, it was my first time in Japan. | ||
| I'm like, I don't wanna do shit, man. | ||
| I just wanna fucking... | ||
| But I'm like, all right, fine. | ||
| You know, Henzo makes us, you know, makes you go. | ||
| So the day before, Heian did something to fucking Ricardo's legs, so Ricardo couldn't do nothing. | ||
| Heian's a wild man. | ||
| So I had to go down. | ||
| So it was just me, you know. | ||
| So they were with me, but... | ||
| So I went with Genki Sudo at one point. | ||
| I went with a lot of the guys. | ||
| And it was like four-minute matches from, like, the feet. | ||
| So at one point, like, I jumped guard, and he went down, he stood up, and he started going around in a circle, like, ah! | ||
| And they're all going, oh! | ||
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And I'm like, ah! | |
| I open up and he goes for a leg lock. | ||
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I got out of it, but it's fucking weird. | |
| But they all did the voice. | ||
| He was wild. | ||
| He was a wild guy, man. | ||
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Genki was supposed to be my first fight in the UFC. Oh, Remy Bonjowski. | |
| Oh, he's not used to that. | ||
| Yeah, he got head kicked. | ||
| He said, that's alright. | ||
| Well, Rami Bonjoski was amazing. | ||
| Yeah, he was. | ||
| And he had such an interesting style. | ||
| Crazy knees. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Hey, man, we just lost Rob Kamen. | ||
| That sucks. | ||
| That really sucks. | ||
| That was hard. | ||
| Nice guy. | ||
| I worked out with that guy a lot. | ||
| I trained with that guy for like an eight-week period. | ||
| It was amazing. | ||
| He was awesome. | ||
| Those Dutch guys are cool, man. | ||
| He's the coolest. | ||
| He was the coolest. | ||
| He's super cool. | ||
| I did a joint seminar with him in Canada one time. | ||
| He's just a cool guy. | ||
| Head kick. | ||
| Check, please. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| I'm done. | ||
| I don't enjoy that. | ||
| Franz Botha, he did well in kickboxing, remember? | ||
| Yeah, he figured out how to do it a little bit and started fucking people up. | ||
| Well, his hands were so good. | ||
| If you could have elite hands and you could figure out the kicks, you had a little bit of an advantage because some of those guys, their boxing was not the best. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| If you could just stay in close. | ||
| Did Genki Sudo get Raymond Decker also? | ||
| Raymond Decker got submitted. | ||
| I think he did. | ||
| I remember him because I think Genki got hit. | ||
| I think that was his only MMA fight. | ||
| I remember that guy because Longo used to always point that guy out and be like, this fucking guy! | ||
| Decker's in his prime as the wildest highlight reel of any fighter ever. | ||
| He was an assassin. | ||
| He had his ankle fused. | ||
| His ankle had broken so many times that his doctor, he couldn't bend his ankle. | ||
| And his doctor was like, look, if you keep kicking with that thing, we might have to remove it. | ||
| Fuck you, wrap it back up, kicking people too. | ||
| He just, once we got in there, he just smashed. | ||
| He kicked through everything. | ||
| He kicked through your arms, he kicked through your elbows. | ||
| Ramon Deckers was a fucking machine, man, and he was a small guy, so he's fighting the elite ties that were all his weight and just piecing people up. | ||
| He was mean, too. | ||
| Oh, he was ferocious. | ||
| Put on a Ramon Decker highlight. | ||
| He was ferocious, man. | ||
| He was the combinations. | ||
| He was the first guy that perfected the duchy. | ||
| Ernesto Hoos used to always do that left hook to the body, right low kick. | ||
| He would hit that thing. | ||
| It was a fucking thing of beauty. | ||
| And he was just such a fucking killer. | ||
| Such a killer. | ||
| Like, just mean. | ||
| Everything was hard. | ||
| Everything was hard. | ||
| Every fucking strike was full power. | ||
| And this motherfucker just put people away. | ||
| It's a little bit like Nate Landar. | ||
| A little bit, bro. | ||
| Ramon Deckers was the fucking man. | ||
| And his hands were so powerful, too. | ||
| The thing that he had above a lot of those guys was his punching power in his hands. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
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Bro. | |
| He's trying to hit him on the way down. | ||
| As he's on the way down, he's still trying to tee off on him. | ||
| Ramon Deckers, bro. | ||
| Come on, son. | ||
| Let's see his hand in MMA after this. | ||
| He's a guy, he died young, too. | ||
| That's what I love about Jiu-Jitsu. | ||
| He died young, too. | ||
| He died. | ||
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Did he? | |
| Yeah, I think he died. | ||
| He had like a heart attack while he's riding his bike or something crazy. | ||
| What the fuck is that? | ||
| He probably rode his bike like a fucking savage. | ||
| Yeah, he probably did everything hard. | ||
| He had a fucking heart attack. | ||
| He was a monster, man. | ||
| Imagine being stuck in the fucking ring with this guy. | ||
| I mean, and back then, there was nobody like him. | ||
| I mean, he was just fucking everybody up, and he was so mean. | ||
| Holding motherfuckers up and knee him. | ||
| Yeah, holding him up to knee him. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Kicking him through the ropes. | ||
| Like, you gotta stop him. | ||
| You gotta pull him off you. | ||
| Look, dude's going down, head kicks him. | ||
| Bro, Ramon Deckers. | ||
| Bring on Genki! | ||
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He would do that. | |
| That was the thing that Rob Cameron was great at too. | ||
| The low kick across the front of the legs. | ||
| He would step off to the left and throw that right low kick across both thighs. | ||
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Ooh! | |
| That's a thudder. | ||
| Bro, Ramon Deckers. | ||
| I mean, what a highlight reel. | ||
| Whose fucking highlight reel is everybody getting smoked? | ||
| It's all everyone just getting pieced up. | ||
| And the power that motherfucker had with his kicks, with his punches, everything. | ||
| He just destroyed people. | ||
| But he destroyed his own body, too. | ||
| I mean, his ankle was completely fucked by the time his career was over. | ||
| I wonder if Steven Seagal showed him that... | ||
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Bro, the Brazilians love Steven Seagal. | |
| What is he, pay those guys to hang out with them? | ||
| No, I think Anderson had a great sense of humor. | ||
| And I think Anderson loved those movies when he was a kid. | ||
| When I met Chuck Norris, I was like, oh my god, I'm meeting Chuck Norris. | ||
| I hug Chuck Norris. | ||
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Wow! | |
| So for Anderson, it might have been like... | ||
| Same thing. | ||
| The fucking... | ||
| The first one? | ||
| What was the first one? | ||
| Above the Law? | ||
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Above the Law. | |
| Bro, that was a good movie! | ||
| Everybody liked that one. | ||
| That was a good fucking movie! | ||
| Yeah, everybody liked that one. | ||
| That movie was legit! | ||
| So if Anderson fell in love with that Steven Segar, it would make sense. | ||
| What about Alpha Justice? | ||
| Alpha Justice wasn't bad. | ||
| Anybody seen Bobby Lupo? | ||
| It was horrible. | ||
| It was fucking horrible. | ||
| That's the one where he was in Brooklyn. | ||
| He pretended to be a gangster. | ||
| He wanted to be Italian in the worst one. | ||
| So bad. | ||
| Well, that was when the mob was allegedly sponsoring his movies. | ||
| He had like a mix-up with the mob. | ||
| The mom was involved in financing his move. | ||
| He's like, Stephen, I don't think you understand here. | ||
| He should do something. | ||
| Showing him how to grab him by the nose. | ||
| This is what you do. | ||
| Just grab him by the nose. | ||
| Imagine telling Anderson Silva, when you get in the clinch, just grab him by the nose. | ||
| Watch this. | ||
| Take him down. | ||
| Grab his nose. | ||
| What the fuck are you saying? | ||
| He's giving him coaching. | ||
| It's adorable. | ||
| And Anderson's listening. | ||
| But the thing is, like, Anderson might be able to take something from some of this wacky shit. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| Because he's a creative, right? | ||
| Remember when he hit Tony Fricklin with that step-in upward elbow? | ||
| Did you know that he had to train that away from his coaches? | ||
| Because his coaches told him to stop drilling that. | ||
| You're not going to use that. | ||
| Really? | ||
| And so he made his wife hold pillows. | ||
| So his wife would hold pillows. | ||
| He would step in and throw that elbow. | ||
| No kidding. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Bang! | ||
| And then he did it on purpose just to show them. | ||
| Fuck you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I can do this shit. | ||
| And this was when Anderson, before he came over to the UFC, look at this. | ||
| Boom! | ||
| Is that when he got his head split? | ||
| Bro, come on. | ||
| No, he just KO'd him. | ||
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Jesus. | |
| But bro, Anderson in those days when he was fighting in England, that's when he became Anderson. | ||
| So when he came over to the UFC to fight Chris Lieben, I was like, everybody hang on. | ||
| Yeah, I remember that. | ||
| Because this is the motherfucker. | ||
| Me and Dean Thomas fought on that card. | ||
| It was the tough four finale. | ||
| Chris Liebman didn't get close to him, man. | ||
| Bro, that was a clinic. | ||
| That and Rich Franklin. | ||
| Yeah, both Rich Franklin fights. | ||
| Brutalized those guys. | ||
| But that was when Anderson became Anderson. | ||
| You know, like when we fought Rio Chonan in pride and Rio Chonan flying scissored him into a heel hook. | ||
| I remember that too. | ||
| He wasn't as good back then. | ||
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Right. | |
| There was something missing. | ||
| And then he goes to England and then he finds himself. | ||
| And then he starts fucking everybody up. | ||
| Jorge Rivera. | ||
| Yeah, for sure. | ||
| Remember when Jorge stood right in front of him, let him punch him in the face? | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| I mean, it's like Anderson was on another planet. | ||
| I know. | ||
| He was on another planet back then. | ||
| Lee Murray? | ||
| Yeah, Lee Murray. | ||
| Lee Murray peaced up Lee Murray. | ||
| He was dangerous back then. | ||
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Dangerous. | |
| I was at the club that night that Lee Murray got into that fight with Tito. | ||
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You were really? | |
| You were there? | ||
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I was. | |
| Did you see it? | ||
| It was in London. | ||
| Did you see the fight? | ||
| It was in London or Manchester? | ||
| No, it was that. | ||
| Where the fuck was that? | ||
| It was London, it was London. | ||
| Cause he beat up Tito and Tito said he had shoes on. | ||
| I remember he came up to me. | ||
| Slippery shoes. | ||
| Yeah, slippery shoes. | ||
| First of all, when you look in the dude's eyes, you know, cause he was talking to me in the club, He's like, yeah, you like the jiu-jitsu? | ||
| I can't do the accent. | ||
| But he's like, yeah. | ||
| He's asking me about my... | ||
| He says, yeah, you like the jiu-jitsu? | ||
| I like to knock people out. | ||
| I thought he was just like a crazy knucklehead. | ||
| So I was just talking to him like, ah, yeah, cool. | ||
| And then when I left later that night, I heard he fucking knocked out Tito. | ||
| Dropped Tito. | ||
| He was a real gangster. | ||
| Obviously. | ||
| A real gangster. | ||
| Imagine a guy that's that good at MMA and fighting is actually a real bank robber. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Because he fucked a lot of people up, man. | ||
| They did like a little mini documentary on that. | ||
| I don't know if it's Showtime or HBO or who it was. | ||
| Could have been on Netflix. | ||
| Wasn't Guy Ritchie going to do a film about that heist? | ||
| That's what I'm wondering. | ||
| You would think by now he would have. | ||
| That heist is crazy. | ||
| Yeah, they should have did that movie. | ||
| A bunch of fighters put on tactical gear and robbed $50 million. | ||
| Had to love his mural in his house in Morocco. | ||
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He had a mural in his house of submitting Corny Rivera. | |
| Oh. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| Catch and Lightning. | ||
| It was last year? | ||
| It came out? | ||
| It just came out. | ||
| Oh, it's a miniseries. | ||
| Not just, but a year or so ago. | ||
| Oh, so someone plays him? | ||
| Was this Guy Ritchie? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Oh, it says Guy Ritchie's making a movie. | ||
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No, no. | |
| It says he's not? | ||
| Does it say he is? | ||
| It does not say he is. | ||
| It says he's not? | ||
| Yeah, this Catch and Lightning thing is more like documentary. | ||
| Guy Ritchie's got to do it. | ||
| It's like his coach and people like that. | ||
| People that were around when the heist happened and all that stuff. | ||
| So, but if you click on it, it said Guy Ritchie's making a movie that someone's responding to that, but is that just rumor? | ||
| Yes, someone said you said something about it. | ||
| I'm probably lying again. | ||
| I'm probably spreading more misinformation. | ||
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God damn it. | |
| It would probably say Guy Ritchie's name right on it. | ||
| Oh, so this is a documentary? | ||
| Documentary. | ||
| Oh, it's a documentary series. | ||
| Oh, well, that's got to be really interesting. | ||
| That's what I want to see. | ||
| I want to see the real thing. | ||
| This is actually good. | ||
| Oh, beautiful. | ||
| So that was out April 7th? | ||
| Yeah, check it out. | ||
| It's out right now? | ||
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Last year. | |
| Oh, okay. | ||
| And it's called Catching Lightning. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So I will check that out for sure. | ||
| It's a crazy story, man. | ||
| But he was a real elite fighter. | ||
| He was a dangerous knockout striker. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's on Showtime? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| My wife is the one that showed me that it was on. | ||
| We watched it. | ||
| It was good. | ||
| I saw him fight live, well obviously in the Jorge Rivera fight, but I saw him fight live against Amir Ranavardi. | ||
| Bro, he was a fucking killer, dude. | ||
| He was a killer. | ||
| Lee Murray was a dangerous dude. | ||
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Yeah, he could fight. | |
| He could box. | ||
| Dangerous. | ||
| Yeah, good hands. | ||
| Dangerous puncher. | ||
| I mean, shit, that was when I seen him at that club. | ||
| I mean, when was that? | ||
| Early 2000s? | ||
| And I seen something in his eyes. | ||
| Do you remember when he got stabbed in a knife fight and then was in the hospital almost dead and then hit and pad six weeks later? | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Yeah, show Lee Murray. | ||
| I think it's like, I legitimately think it was like six to eight weeks after getting stabbed, if I remember it correctly. | ||
| He was hitting mitts. | ||
| And I was like, this is the most insane thing I've ever seen in my life. | ||
| See if you can find that. | ||
| Because it was a video that got released. | ||
| It wasn't like that he was tearing the mitts up, but he was hitting mitts after getting stabbed in the heart. | ||
| In the heart? | ||
| In the heart! | ||
| Bro, I mean he got stabbed a bunch of times. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| He should have died and lived and then next thing he's hitting mitts and then after that he's planning a bank robbery. | ||
| You'll see on the documentary like they kind of show they kind of say he's not you know he ain't the mastermind they like set him up to be that guy. | ||
| Oh the master I wouldn't think he's the mastermind of the organization. | ||
| Just the fact that he was there. | ||
| Well that's the kind of guy if you want to rob a bank. | ||
| They were in on it it's I mean it's pretty crazy and it wasn't it the largest amount of money like in stolen in British history or something like that. | ||
| How did they catch him? | ||
| How do they know who did it? | ||
| I mean, I'm going to ruin the documentary for you. | ||
| Okay, don't, don't. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Is there a video of him hitting the pads after being stabbed in the heart? | ||
| See if you can find that. | ||
| It's so crazy. | ||
| It was on YouTube, I believe. | ||
| Does this thing dissolve or am I spitting this thing out? | ||
| You spit it out. | ||
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Oh, okay. | |
| I didn't know. | ||
| I'm chewing it like a gum. | ||
| Yeah, it gets a little chewy. | ||
| Can I have another one? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Get in there, sir. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Junkie. | ||
| Now, where's that Cat Williams shit? | ||
| Let's go! | ||
|
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Uh-oh. | |
| No, no, I'm only kidding. | ||
| My kids are watching. | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| Steve Thomas. | ||
|
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Dude. | |
| Let's fucking go. | ||
| Cat Williams stuff is not for amateurs. | ||
| Give me a zin. | ||
| Give me a zin. | ||
| Thank you, bro. | ||
| Let's go. | ||
| Let's go. | ||
| Ready to revive for round three. | ||
| Do you remember when Panama Lewis gave Aaron Pryor the green one? | ||
| Not that one, yeah, the other one I mixed, yeah. | ||
| And then he came out, woo! | ||
| Do you guys remember when Greg Hardy wanted somebody to give him a fucking... | ||
| Never mind. | ||
| What? | ||
| Greg Hardy the wrestler? | ||
| No. | ||
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Everybody forgot I shouldn't bring it up. | |
| Greg Hardy was fighting and he goes, man, I need my inhaler. | ||
| So his corner guy, he must have been new to the UFC. He goes, alright. | ||
| It was Dean Thompson. | ||
| Dean, I'm sorry. | ||
| Oh, you were fighting Greg Hardy? | ||
| No. | ||
| Greg Hardy was fighting, Dean was cornering him. | ||
| Oh, Greg Hardy, the heavyweight guy. | ||
| Oh, Jesus Christ. | ||
| Usada approved. | ||
| I asked the dude and he said yeah. | ||
| Is that not Usada approved? | ||
| Who handed it to him? | ||
| I handed it to him. | ||
| Is that not Usada approved? | ||
| No, it's not. | ||
| Oh, boy, and they did it on camera? | ||
| In reality, if a dude fights with asthma, you would think he'd be cleared to use his fucking inhaler. | ||
| Right, but what does the inhaler do for you? | ||
| It opens your lungs up. | ||
| Would it be beneficial for someone who doesn't have asthma? | ||
| Yeah, 100%. | ||
| Yeah, then you can't use it. | ||
| No, but he has asthma, and he got cleared to have it in the back. | ||
| And he thought he was able to have it in the corner. | ||
| So when I asked the guy, I said, can he have this? | ||
| He said, yeah, I think so. | ||
| So I gave it to him. | ||
| Well, sorry to bring that up. | ||
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I mean, Dana threw me under the bus. | |
| He was like, yo, that damn Dean Thomas, how could he do this? | ||
| You know, it's complicated, too, because the rules keep shifting a little bit. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I mean, state to state, it's 100% different. | ||
| But the testosterone rule was the craziest rule. | ||
| Of all the rules that have ever existed in the UFC, when they started giving people testosterone, that was the craziest rule. | ||
| I know, that was the craziest rule. | ||
| That was the craziest rule. | ||
| There were Wild West days, where people could take whatever they wanted. | ||
| What years was that, where they were just allowed the guys... | ||
| That's a good question. | ||
| I want to say it's like 2010-ish. | ||
| What year did Luke Rockhold fight Vitor? | ||
| Vitor came back a different man. | ||
| A different man. | ||
| Luke different. | ||
| Way different. | ||
| That was when he spin kicked Luke in the head. | ||
| Remember? | ||
| Luke Rockhold said, I was looking at this guy at the weigh-ins going, what the fuck is he on? | ||
| Because Vitor is just like a fucking silverback. | ||
| Just... | ||
| I mean, dude, when he first came on the scene, he was like 220, had traps up to his ears. | ||
| When he first came on the scene, I was there for his first fight, UFC 12, in Dothan, Alabama. | ||
| And no one knew what to expect, because everybody thought that Vitor was a Carlson Gracie black belt, so they expected him to just be a jiu-jitsu guy. | ||
| But he came out with them Brazilian fucking model shorts on, and the MMA gloves, and just tuned up Trey Taylor. | ||
| They called Victor Grappler. | ||
| Victor Gracie. | ||
| Yeah, that's what we called him back then. | ||
| We called him Victor. | ||
| I was at his school when he was training back then. | ||
| I was at Carlson Gracie's in 97. That's part of how the reason I got this gig. | ||
| You know, it's funny. | ||
| I interviewed him once and he mentioned that you used to train there. | ||
| Yeah, I trained there in 96. That's when I started training there. | ||
| Dude, when he killed Vanderlei in that fight. | ||
| Oh, yeah, man. | ||
| Vanderlei was a savage, too, back then. | ||
| Just people didn't know yet. | ||
| He came out with wrestling shoes on. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He came out, like, remember, he was, like, almost like he was freezing him. | ||
| He was in, like, Vanderlei was in waiting. | ||
| Avaro Romano, you know, the guy at Gymnastica Natural. | ||
| Yep, yep, yep. | ||
| He used to be, like, I guess, part of the Carlson team. | ||
| And he said, like, Vanderlei was pissed because he thought Vitor was in the back trying to freeze him out. | ||
| And what Alvaro said was that Veeder was petrified, said he was in the back, was crying, and they had to make him go out there. | ||
| And then he went out there and machine-gunned Vanderlei across the cage like so crazy. | ||
| Vanderlei was terrifying. | ||
| I heard that story, right? | ||
| So I had to, as a... | ||
| A journalist with integrity. | ||
| I had to ask him about it. | ||
| He said that he had stomach problems. | ||
| Is he going to admit? | ||
| That's the same thing I thought. | ||
| That's the same thing I thought. | ||
| But I had to ask him about it. | ||
| 2013. So it was 2013. So it was 11 years ago. | ||
| They were juicing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| We know something happened because he made an excuse. | ||
| He had stomach problems. | ||
| How many years they had TRT for? | ||
| When did it start? | ||
| That's a question for Nowitzki, right? | ||
| Dan Henderson was on that shit, right? | ||
| Yeah, but not for a while. | ||
| He was on later. | ||
| He was on a low dose of it. | ||
| When he got off it, he's one of the few guys that was basically the same guy when he got off of it. | ||
| He couldn't train as hard, I think he said, but he knocked out Hector Lombard after he got off of it. | ||
| That was post-TRT days. | ||
| He was still fucking people up. | ||
| Remember when he knocked out Fedor? | ||
| Oh yeah! | ||
| Dan Henderson knocked out Fedor. | ||
| He ducked under, he snuck out the back door and hit him with an uppercut. | ||
| Boom! | ||
| Because Fedor had him rocked and he went down. | ||
| He was on his back and Fedor jumped on him. | ||
| He grabbed ahold of a single, snuck out the back. | ||
| Boom! | ||
| And then just hammered him with that fucking Hendo right hand. | ||
| The Bisping knockout was the craziest. | ||
| The craziest. | ||
| The craziest. | ||
| The flying punch, and that became his logo. | ||
| I know. | ||
| After watching Tuff and Bisping, you know, he's a... | ||
| Look, I like Michael Bisping, and he's an instigating motherfucker, and he was on him the whole time, so you almost were... | ||
| You know, at that point that Dan got his revenge. | ||
| Dan's an animal. | ||
| But now I work with Bisping, man. | ||
| I like him a lot, man. | ||
| I love him. | ||
| And I hate watching that clip, man, because I like him so much. | ||
| Well, you don't want to see your boy get hurt. | ||
| It's rough watching a guy get hammered in the face after he's out cold, too. | ||
| That's a rough one. | ||
| Yeah, that guy's... | ||
| I mean, I liked Bisping when he was on tough. | ||
| Like, when he came up, he was obviously a talented guy and wound up becoming a world champ. | ||
| He's a solid guy. | ||
| Very solid guy. | ||
| We should mention that he won that rematch. | ||
| I got fucking hiccups. | ||
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He won the rematch versus Dan Anderson. | |
| For the title. | ||
| When he was a champion. | ||
| Did he have one eye at that point? | ||
| Yep, he had one eye at that point. | ||
| Well, how about the craziest one was when he beat Anderson and then he gets his mouthpiece knocked out. | ||
| He's pointing to the referee to get his mouthpiece back and Anderson hits him with a flying Was it Herb or was it John? | ||
| At that point, it might have been her. | ||
| I think it was her, but I think the fight wasn't over. | ||
| They had another round. | ||
| The fight was not over because Anderson thought he KO'd him. | ||
| He hit him with that flying knee and dropped him and walked away like it was a walkaway KO. And then the fight kept going. | ||
| And he jumped on the cage. | ||
| Yes, that's right. | ||
| He thought it was over. | ||
| But meanwhile, Bisping was blind in one eye. | ||
| So Bisping, when he's pointing, To see where the fucking mouthpiece is. | ||
| He probably couldn't even fucking see it coming. | ||
| He's probably looking for his goddamn eye. | ||
| Jesus, Rollo. | ||
| How many fights? | ||
| He said he fought how many times with one eye? | ||
| And then he walks away And then he goes what the fuck? | ||
| I think he just said, what the fuck. | ||
| Man, mentally too. | ||
| How do you come from that adrenaline dump? | ||
| Meanwhile, Bisping survived. | ||
| How tough is this motherfucker? | ||
| One eye and survives. | ||
| He's a savage. | ||
| Crazy, right? | ||
| And by the way, that left eye that's fucked up, that's the good eye. | ||
| That's the good eye. | ||
| That's the good eye. | ||
| That's the eye he can see out of. | ||
| And he comes back and he wins the fifth round, which is bananas, man. | ||
| Just fucking bananas. | ||
| Even to win the title, Bisping had to beat Luke Rockhold. | ||
| And Luke Rockhold took him out the first time. | ||
| And he beat him on short notice. | ||
| There was another very short notice fight. | ||
| One of my favorite moments is right before they were going to fight, Luke was going to him. | ||
| And he's like, what's that, buddy? | ||
| And he goes, like, he doesn't want to touch hands. | ||
| He's like, ah, touch you in a minute, motherfucker! | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Yeah, I'll touch you in a minute, motherfucker. | ||
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He's hilarious. | |
| He's funny as shit. | ||
| It was great. | ||
| That was a wild victory. | ||
| He's entertaining. | ||
| He's a fun guy. | ||
| He's got an interesting perspective about this Mike Tyson, Jake Paul thing. | ||
| Because even though Bisping only has one eye, he's been trying to get Jake Paul to fight him, which is kind of crazy. | ||
| It's a nice paycheck. | ||
| Would they allow that? | ||
| A guy with one eye to fight? | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| They're allowing a 60-year-old guy to fight. | ||
| What do you think about this Mike Tyson, Jake Paul thing? | ||
| Do you think it's crazy? | ||
| It's always hard to say because you know he has the ability to drop him on his ass at any time, but... | ||
| Look, I think all the rules are to his favor. | ||
| Are we getting tricked by watching pad work? | ||
| We're getting tricked. | ||
| I mean, that's a fact. | ||
| But if you look at the pad work, it's little three to five second bursts. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's not one round. | ||
| If he was doing that in all one round, I'd go, oh. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| But I mean, anybody could put that together. | ||
| Right, but also, he's just starting to train again. | ||
| But still. | ||
| But he's like day one, day two. | ||
| Those videos, he's literally saying day one. | ||
| Here's the question. | ||
| How was this fight with Roy Jones? | ||
| I didn't see it. | ||
| How was it? | ||
| I think they had an agreement. | ||
| Not to punch the head. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| He was told Roy would not fight him. | ||
| He wasn't trying to get hit in his head. | ||
| So they had a prearranged thing where he wasn't going to knock him out. | ||
| It looked like Mike was not trying to knock him out. | ||
| That's what it looked like. | ||
| The fight will be an exhibition, but it'll be real fight rules. | ||
| I think this is when he was on Hannity. | ||
| 16-ounce gloves and only two minute rounds. | ||
| That's to Mike's favor. | ||
| Two minute rounds for sure. | ||
| Because that was my biggest thing. | ||
| If he doesn't get him in the first couple rounds, what kind of gas is he going to have at his age? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| See, here's the thing. | ||
| It's at his age with a lot of supplements. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| Hey, look, I hope he wins. | ||
| God forbid. | ||
| I don't... | ||
| If it was just a regular 57-year-old dude with not modern hormone replacement and all that jazz, I'd go, he doesn't have a chance. | ||
| But 57 years old with just juice to the tits. | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| What are the rules? | ||
| What are the rules? | ||
| What are you allowed to do? | ||
| Because if you just allow him to do whatever he wants to do, it changes everything. | ||
| I guess if it's an exhibition, no drug testing. | ||
| Email response from the Texas Licensing Commission. | ||
| The promoter is requested to have an event that day. | ||
| We've not received any proposed cards and thus have no details of what they're planning. | ||
| And that will affect the possible rules. | ||
| All ballots are subject to review and approval by TDLR. Please let me know if you need any other information. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So it's not necessarily carved in stone yet. | ||
| They might not approve it. | ||
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Interesting. | |
| If a lot of people protest, maybe they won't approve it. | ||
| Are they doing it in Texas? | ||
| I mean, they were trying to do it at AT&T Stadium. | ||
| Like, that's crazy. | ||
| If Tyson dies. | ||
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Right. | |
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Yeah, see, if you have something like that, if you have... | ||
| Look, if this... | ||
| That'd be the end of the... | ||
| Right. | ||
| Let's imagine it in a different way, right? | ||
| Let's not imagine that Mike Tyson is fighting Jake Paul. | ||
| Let's imagine Mike Tyson is fighting some young, really powerful knockout artist who's a contender. | ||
| Well, guess what? | ||
| Jake Paul could be that guy if we didn't think of him as Jake Paul. | ||
| If you look at the people he knocks dead, when he knocked dead Tyron Woodley with one punch, that dude did fucking crack. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, honestly, I'm saying exactly what you're saying. | ||
| We don't want to give him credit because it's Jake Paul. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| But we've got to wake up and realize that he's still 27, young, and for the last four, five, six, seven years, he's had the best coaches working with him one-on-one. | ||
| Now, we wouldn't be thinking that if it wasn't Jake Paul, that he couldn't do it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So you're right about that. | ||
| And he's dedicated. | ||
| And he's dedicated. | ||
| And if he was just some wild young dude coming up, knocking people out, knocking out former MMA champions like Tyron, we would go, whoa, keep an eye on this kid. | ||
| This guy might be something someday. | ||
| Like, he's on the way up. | ||
| Yeah, Tyson grew up in this sport, though. | ||
| 100%, but he's also 57. And I think he's going to be 58. Yeah, he'll be 58 at the time he fights. | ||
| Which is my question, too, is how do you think... | ||
| Jake Paul, all the guys he's fought are much smaller than him, whether people want to say so or not. | ||
| Ben Askren fought his whole life at 70. | ||
| Nate's 55 and 70 pounder. | ||
| Tyron's 70 pounder. | ||
| So this guy's walking around well over 200, cutting to 85 for these fights. | ||
| This is finally a dude... | ||
| Like, he didn't hurt, like, the Tommy Fury dude. | ||
| He didn't hurt Nate, really, during the fight. | ||
| I thought Nate's inactivity. | ||
| Like, he didn't really get busy in there. | ||
| Nate apparently had a fucked up shoulder going into the fight. | ||
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All right. | |
| Well, then that would make sense, because he didn't really throw. | ||
| That's what I heard. | ||
| That might not be true. | ||
| You know, so how's he going to handle, again, the age is the factor, but, you know, a big, strong... | ||
| Two-minute rounds ain't bad. | ||
| I'm saying. | ||
| Two-minute rounds aren't bad, and like I said, if they got him on the right fucking mixture... | ||
| They're going to have to. | ||
| Even if he's just counting. | ||
| Or else they're going to be competitive, and they don't. | ||
| But if they do have him on the right mixture, how do you pass drug tests? | ||
| How does that work? | ||
| I mean, is there a drug test on an exhibition? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| That's a good question. | ||
| Because if there's not, ye fucking haw. | ||
| Yeah, I know, right? | ||
| That's the only way. | ||
| Drugs is the only way I think he's competitive. | ||
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Right. | |
| Well, I mean, that's obvious. | ||
| If you just look at him, though, he has to be on some kind of hormone replacement. | ||
| Yeah, Hunter. | ||
| He looks pretty yoked up right now, too. | ||
| He looks pretty yoked. | ||
| What a comeback since The Hangover, huh? | ||
| I mean, right? | ||
| He got big for a while. | ||
| Oh, yeah, yeah, when he was doing the one-man show and all. | ||
| It sucks when you're fat. | ||
| You guys never really got fat. | ||
| Both Tysons on the podcast. | ||
| I had Tyson when he was big, when he wasn't training at all. | ||
| And I said to him, you don't work out at all. | ||
| He goes, I'm afraid I'll ignite my ego. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| That's terrifying. | ||
| And that's what happened. | ||
| It ignited that thing inside of him. | ||
| When he came back for the Roy... | ||
| It was two different interviews. | ||
| Two different humans. | ||
| Yeah, 100%. | ||
| I agree with you. | ||
| Jamie was the first one to say it. | ||
| It's like a totally different person. | ||
| Yeah, he was way more intense. | ||
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Way more. | |
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Terrifying. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| And you can imagine he's going to be in that mindset. | ||
| With all those Anastron's, dollar scenes. | ||
| How do you say them again? | ||
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Anastron. | |
| You got to be in that mindset, though, when you're getting ready to fight, though. | ||
| You're in a different mindset. | ||
| The thing is, if he's physically capable of recapturing 70% of what he used to do, just dealing with that, just dealing with that with probably 90% of the power... | ||
| 70% of the physical ability and 90% of the power, because the power is not gone. | ||
| You see it when he hits a bag. | ||
| Yeah, he's still got the power. | ||
| The power is there, 100%. | ||
| But he's had a bunch of back issues. | ||
| He had real bad sciatica. | ||
| He had problems walking and stuff. | ||
| He's walking with a cane. | ||
| But who knows what they've done, stem cells. | ||
| I'm sure he's with the right people. | ||
| Even at 57, you can make a lot of money if Mike Tyson's fit and in shape, which is so crazy to say. | ||
| It's just weird that we're even talking about it. | ||
| A hundred percent. | ||
| That the fucking guy from Disney is going to fight Mike Tyson, the YouTube kid. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| And the path to beat Mike always was long dudes that had a good jab later in his career when he wasn't moving his head anymore. | ||
| So I don't know if Jake can keep Mike off with his jab. | ||
| We're going to see. | ||
| But Jake will grab him and wrangle him. | ||
| I mean, that's what he does good. | ||
| He wrangles guys. | ||
| Tyson's people are going to be in the back saying, don't let him wrestle us. | ||
| He'll be wrenching those fucking arms the way he used to. | ||
| He'll have to do some jujitsu in it. | ||
| If Tyson can have a flashback, To the glory days. | ||
| If there's just like a moment where he just sees a combination and empties it on him, that would be wild to watch. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| For Jake to hurt him, he's got to be there to get hurt. | ||
| I know he's not exactly Muhammad Ali, you know? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And if Tyson can still move his head like he used to move his head. | ||
| Now, the thing about lower backs, though, if you've got a lower back problem, you've got to kind of save that movement. | ||
| You can only do it so many times before it's painful. | ||
| It all depends on the condition of his lower back. | ||
| Because you've got to think, Mike Tyson in his prime, go back and watch some of those early days. | ||
| He's just coming at you. | ||
| He's just moving. | ||
| There's just so much to calculate and bombs are coming your way and you're trying to hit him with jabs. | ||
| The custom auto Tyson was the whole problem. | ||
| The head movement. | ||
| People forgot how hard he was to hit. | ||
| His head movement was sick. | ||
| That's what stopped later in his career. | ||
| I mean, really, that was a big difference. | ||
| Exactly, and I think that coincided with back problems. | ||
| I just, and he also had neck problems. | ||
| I believe he had a neck surgery because, you know, he used to do a lot of those wrestler's bridges. | ||
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Man, that guy's neck, dude. | |
| Oh, my God. | ||
| And you've got to think of how many dudes like Lennox Lewis just teed off on his noggin. | ||
| Evander Holyfield just teeing off on his noggin. | ||
| What is that doing to your neck? | ||
| That can't be good. | ||
| But my whole thing is this, man, like if what we saw with Vitor Belfort and Evander Holyfield, if that's any indication, and Vitor was 45. Right. | ||
| I know. | ||
| So is Jake. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You think Jake is? | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| I mean, why wouldn't he be? | ||
| But he's also young. | ||
| And he's still 27, right. | ||
| So maybe he's not, but either way. | ||
| He's got natural testosterone. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Weren't you just shooting a movie? | ||
| What? | ||
| That's right. | ||
| What'd you do? | ||
| I'm shooting a movie. | ||
| With Denzel? | ||
| No! | ||
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What? | |
| I call him Denzel. | ||
| What the fuck is that Denzel? | ||
| Did you say Denzel? | ||
| No, I call myself Denzel. | ||
| Get my Denzel on. | ||
| That's an independent film I'm doing in LA right now. | ||
| Nice. | ||
| Don't get stabbed by any homeless people. | ||
| Nah, man. | ||
| LA, I don't like LA. It's weird. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's weird now. | ||
| There's no optimism left in the city. | ||
| No, it's a city that's abandoned. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| San Francisco. | ||
| It's a weird place. | ||
| Oh, they're all fucked. | ||
| And it happened so quick. | ||
| It makes me wonder, like, what is that going to be like in five years? | ||
| Everybody got out of there, huh? | ||
| Look how quick San Francisco got cleaned up. | ||
| When Xi Jinping came into town. | ||
| When Xi Jinping showed up. | ||
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Isn't it amazing? | |
| And then, bam, right back to it. | ||
| I was saying, if I was the mayor of San Francisco, I'd just buy that dude a condo. | ||
| Like, come stay. | ||
| Whenever you're here, they're going to clean the streets. | ||
| All the problems are fixed, right. | ||
| This is going to fucking take care of them. | ||
| When he came into town for a conference, they cleaned up the streets. | ||
| Everything. | ||
| Everything. | ||
| They got rid of all the homeless people. | ||
| They put barriers up so they couldn't get up on there. | ||
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Really? | |
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Where they put the people. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| What Gavin Newsom said that was so hilarious, he said, well, when guests come over, you clean up your house. | ||
| Like, bitch, keep your house clean. | ||
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You got human shit all over the floor of your house. | |
| This is crazy. | ||
| He's a psychopath. | ||
| He can lie to your face without even blinking an eye. | ||
| It's so weird to watch him do it, too. | ||
| It's like 1980s Roadhouse Lion. | ||
| For real. | ||
| You know, it's not even good. | ||
| He's the one that got caught eating out. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He's like, well, I've been bad. | ||
| You got me or something like that. | ||
| He was like, you shouldn't really do that. | ||
| And I was, you know, my bad. | ||
| It's like, dude, you fucking slime. | ||
| He's so slick and he looks like a guy who could be president. | ||
| And we're dumb. | ||
| We're like, hey, I think he talks good. | ||
| He looks like Christian Bale, an American psycho. | ||
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He does. | |
| He does. | ||
| But it's like, you know, if he says the right things and he talks the right way, look, Biden won. | ||
| Say it with a smile and you're good. | ||
| Biden won and he's barely alive. | ||
| So there you go. | ||
| And they're running him again. | ||
| I'd rather have Terry Crews from Idiocracy. | ||
| Terry Crews could win right now if you ran with that wig on. | ||
| If you ran with that wig on, Terry Crews, everybody loves Terry Crews. | ||
| They were watering their plants with Gatorade or whatever the drink was. | ||
| Bro, you want to know the wildest shit? | ||
| The Rock told me. | ||
| He told it on the podcast that they called him and contacted him about running for president? | ||
| Yeah, I think so. | ||
| Wasn't it on the podcast? | ||
| Yeah, they contacted him and asked him if he wanted to run. | ||
| The Rock. | ||
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What? | |
| That's idiocracy. | ||
| I mean, for sure. | ||
| How about he could win? | ||
| I know. | ||
| I would probably vote for him. | ||
| I would probably vote for him. | ||
| I mean, the dude is disciplined. | ||
| He's a good guy. | ||
| Jacked. | ||
| I want a jack president. | ||
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I want a president where every other president has to step aside. | |
| Bitch, The Rock is here. | ||
| The Rock Johnson details how a political party asked him to run for president. | ||
| Yeah, on my podcast. | ||
| It's hilarious. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Isn't that wild, dude? | ||
| Asked him to run for president. | ||
| You know it's for the Democrats, for sure. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And if he did, where? | ||
| I mean, he didn't first buy it before the last election. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| That is the president. | ||
| Come on, son. | ||
| If The Rock won and then came out like that. | ||
| That was the name of it. | ||
| Imagine if The Rock won and came out with that outfit on. | ||
| Can I just say, if anybody out there has not seen Idiocracy, they should watch that fucking movie. | ||
| Oh my God, it's so good. | ||
| It holds up. | ||
| Mike Judge, though. | ||
| He's a genius. | ||
| He's got animals in this. | ||
| Beavis and Butthead, everything. | ||
| Mike Judge is the man. | ||
| Office Space, King of the Hill. | ||
| He's the man. | ||
| Mike Judge is the man. | ||
| He's a great guy, too. | ||
| He lives out here. | ||
| That's wild. | ||
| We had him on Unfiltered once, and the fact that he knew one of my fights, I get weird when people know, because I don't think anybody watches anything. | ||
| I don't get impressed with guys in Hollywood and stuff, but I fucking love Office Space. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And all this shit. | ||
| When I like somebody's work, I'm like, whoa. | ||
| No, he's just a regular dude. | ||
| He's a real cool guy. | ||
| He's a fan, like a real fan of MMA. He loves fights. | ||
| I met him years ago, too. | ||
| He's been coming to the fights for a long fucking time. | ||
| And he comes to the fights, too? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I met him at the fights. | ||
| The first time I ever met him. | ||
| Was he a comedian as well, or was he just a writer? | ||
| I don't think he did stand-up. | ||
| I might be mistaken. | ||
| He's pretty fucking funny. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| He's a hilarious dude, though. | ||
| And what's upsetting is these movies... | ||
| They become like cult classics. | ||
| I don't think Idiocracy or Office Space. | ||
| I might be wrong, but I don't think they made a lot of money. | ||
| But they are fucking classics if you see those movies. | ||
| Oh, I bet those movies made money. | ||
| Do you think they made money? | ||
| I bet Office Space made money. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know about that. | ||
| Office Space was pretty big. | ||
| And then you've got to think about all the DVD sales and all the streaming sales. | ||
| Well, that's the difference. | ||
| I don't think it's made like a... | ||
| A big theatrical thing. | ||
| I'm not sure. | ||
| I don't think it did. | ||
| I think it might have made it up on... | ||
| Damn, that's a funny movie. | ||
| It is pretty funny. | ||
| That is such a good movie. | ||
| But those movies, you can't get them today. | ||
| They don't make them anymore. | ||
| They don't make those wild, insane, funny, something about Mary type movies. | ||
| You can't. | ||
| No. | ||
| Somebody's always going to get offended. | ||
| Something about Mary was... | ||
| Bro, I remember... | ||
| Ben Stiller's put out quite a few of them. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Dodgeball. | ||
| Tropic Thunder is one of the all-time great comics. | ||
| I'm telling you. | ||
| Could not make it today. | ||
| A lot of the humor was different back then. | ||
| You were allowed. | ||
| You were allowed to joke about it. | ||
| You were allowed to actually be funny. | ||
| It's about Ricky Bobby. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| Goddamn it. | ||
| Tom Cruise, use your witchcraft! | ||
| They don't even make funny movies anymore. | ||
| It's such a judgmental world that we live in now. | ||
| Everybody's trying to attack things and take people down. | ||
| It's just so stupid. | ||
| In the beginning of Hangover, your friends are so immature. | ||
| Ready? | ||
| Paging Dr. Faggot. | ||
| He's sitting there like... | ||
| It's silly. | ||
| It's just silliness. | ||
| People need more silliness. | ||
| They do. | ||
| We all do. | ||
| That's why this is fun. | ||
| That shit was great. | ||
| That's why the four of us get together. | ||
| So we need a name. | ||
| Is the cuck sticking around at all? | ||
| Is that gonna be it? | ||
| I have to be a cuck? | ||
| I think we can take that name. | ||
| I think we're the fucking cucks. | ||
| Why not? | ||
| It's a funny thing to call yourself. | ||
| Just take that name. | ||
| You know why? | ||
| Because you'd think we would come up with something toxic. | ||
| Yeah, like the Four Horsemen. | ||
| But no, the Four Horsemen. | ||
| Fuck you, Rugen. | ||
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When you wrote that in the group text, I go, I'm going to wait until he says that in the studio. | |
| The Bulldogs. | ||
| Yeah, what are we? | ||
| I think the Cucks is a perfect... | ||
| Cucks is funny. | ||
| It's funny. | ||
| It's like calling me tall or something. | ||
| Talking shit. | ||
| We're talking shit right from the jump. | ||
| You can't take a show seriously that's called Cucks. | ||
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Yeah, right. | |
| Definitely not. | ||
| So I want to see that. | ||
| On an episode of the Joe Rogan Experience called Cucks. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What the fuck? | ||
| You got the protect your parks, then you got the cucks. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| So that's it for now. | ||
| We'll put a bookmark on it. | ||
| We'll have to think about it. | ||
| You might get home, wake up in the middle of the night and go, I can't be a cuck. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| John Rollo's going to be the one texting us. | ||
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Boys, let's rethink this. | |
| The Four Horsemen has a ring to it. | ||
| For the record, I'm all in on Cucks, for the record. | ||
| I feel like Cucks is it. | ||
| It came to me in a dream. | ||
| Peer pressure. | ||
| If it stays in here, it's fine. | ||
| At my school, if somebody goes, hey, Professor Cuck, I'm going to fuck you up. | ||
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Somebody gets strangled. | |
| Somebody gets strangled. | ||
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That's a fact. | |
| It's not happening. | ||
| But I like it, you know? | ||
| That's good. | ||
| Alright, gentlemen, give everybody, Rallo, your Instagram and Ground Control. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Ground Control is groundcontrolbaltimore.com. | ||
| My fight promotion, shogunfights.com. | ||
| That's a fucking great show, too. | ||
| Shogun? | ||
| You guys been watching Shogun? | ||
| That was sick, man. | ||
| Goddamn that show. | ||
| No, I didn't see that. | ||
| I'm going to watch it, though. | ||
| Are you watching it? | ||
| It's good? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| It's good. | ||
| It's great. | ||
| The reading? | ||
| The subtitles? | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| It's not a lot. | ||
| It's in and out. | ||
| They speak English, too. | ||
| It's worth it. | ||
| I'm going to watch it. | ||
| I watch the Yellowstone, but they get too much into the... | ||
| It's a good show. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| But then they do stuff just for the Midwestern people. | ||
| I don't give a fuck about that. | ||
| They play the hee-haw music, and they're like... | ||
| You want to watch the Yellowstone? | ||
| I'm folding that shit. | ||
| 1883. I watched it. | ||
| Oh, I watched that. | ||
| I watched 1883 and I watched 1923. They were both great. | ||
| I'm waiting for the next 1923 to come out. | ||
| You seen it? | ||
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When the one gets back from Africa? | |
| Which one was the one? | ||
| It's really good. | ||
| I mean, they're both good. | ||
| I thought that one was... | ||
| I like that one. | ||
| They're both great. | ||
| 1883 is fucking amazing, too, but it's over when it's over. | ||
| Taylor Sheridan? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| He's a great guy, too. | ||
| Dude, Sicario is maybe one of the sickest movies of all time. | ||
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That was depressing, though, the 1883. Yeah, but that's what life was like back then, man. | |
| That was a brutal existence. | ||
| Even in 1923, I like when they just start coming up with the refrigerator and shit. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, exactly. | ||
| Even the ones that are resisting it, they're like, well, I'm going to have to get one of those washing machines or something. | ||
| It's like just coming out. | ||
| They're like, look, I want to keep it to our traditions, but listen, I got to get that dishwasher. | ||
| It's like weird. | ||
| It's like when it's just coming out. | ||
| It's very cool. | ||
| Good shit. | ||
| All right. | ||
| So Shogun Fights, Ground Control. | ||
| At BeMoreMMA is Instagram. | ||
| Dean? | ||
| Catch me at the next Karate Combat member, Joe Schilling and Luke Rockhold taking a year in Hawaii. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| When is that happening? | ||
| April 20th. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| I like Joe Schilling. | ||
| Yeah, so y'all can check me out there. | ||
| Joe Schilling's a bad man. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| What about Modern Rose's? | ||
| And Modern Rose, my restaurant in Hollywood, Florida at the Modern Rose Hollywood. | ||
| Do you have a restaurant? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, a restaurant tour. | ||
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Coffee shop. | |
| Coffee shop. | ||
| Nice food. | ||
| It's beautiful. | ||
| Any gluten-free options? | ||
| I don't know for sure. | ||
| Anything gonna make you shit in a box? | ||
| UFC unfiltered with myself and Jimmy Norton, my little bird. | ||
| And Instagram, it's MattSaraBJJ. | ||
| Alright, beautiful. | ||
| Thank you, gentlemen. | ||
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