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Sept. 14, 2011 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #139 - Duncan Trussell
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unidentified
Hi, Duncan.
duncan trussell
Hi!
joe rogan
We got everything going on here, folks.
We took Alpha Brain pills.
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We've been selling these here on the podcast.
Telling people about them.
They sold out completely quickly.
And, you know, there's always going to be some people that don't like certain things.
But the response, the positive response from these things has been fucking tremendous.
And even Tim Ferriss loved it.
And he thought the, you know, he read the ingredients and said they were great.
Said it's a perfect combination, which is really nice to hear because he was a fucking brilliant man.
What an interesting guy.
I've been reading his book, The Four Hour Work.
Well, The Four Hour Body is the one I've been reading.
It's so fucking informative.
There's so much in there, man.
About so many different things.
He did all these things, his own personal, detailed examinations and experiences he's done with his own body, like gaining 30 pounds over a course of six weeks.
He did all this bodybuilding stuff and all these different things where he combined foods and nutrients in different times of the day.
And he detailed everything.
And it's fucking really interesting.
One of the things that he detailed is that his balls were getting cooked by his cell phone and it was killing his sperm count.
Like, he's totally healthy.
He just gained all this muscle, right?
He's lifting weights, doing all this kettlebells and shit.
Figures he's healthy as a horse.
Gets his sperm checked just for whatever.
I mean, I know it's going to come back awesome.
You know, it's one of those things.
My loads are going to be awesome.
They're going to be glowing.
Well, he goes and his sperm is, like, down significantly.
So the only thing he does to change it is he adds some, I believe, Brazil nuts to his diet.
Because Brazil nuts contain certain minerals or something like that that's supposed to be good for your sperm count.
And took his cell phone out of his pocket.
No longer had a cell phone on him.
Apparently there's studies online that show a significant correlation between having your cell phone in your pocket and low sperm count.
duncan trussell
Can I ask you why it was important to him to have a good sperm count?
joe rogan
Well, he wanted to know what was going on with his body.
Because his whole thing is about him experimenting with his body and trying different things that people have tried to get optimum performance out of your body.
duncan trussell
Is sperm count the number of sperm living in there?
joe rogan
That are live and healthy.
It's not the loads.
The size of the loads could be the same.
But inside those loads is just a dead fucking ghost ship.
unidentified
Is it heat?
It arrives like, you know, here comes my boys!
joe rogan
The fucking boat hits the beach at Normandy, and every living soldier is just dead.
They're just slumped over.
duncan trussell
That's terrifying.
So my loads could be filled with dead worms.
joe rogan
In fact, a good friend of mine had a really hard time getting his girlfriend pregnant, his wife pregnant.
And they went to a doctor, and he's not even 40, and he found out that he had a really low sperm cancer.
And he's kind of freaked out about it.
He's like, well, what the fuck?
And he's thinking about all these different things.
But one of those things could easily be your cell phone.
Your cell phone is cooking your balls.
unidentified
Your laptop does that, too.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, that's heat, though.
unidentified
Yeah, is this what you're talking about, heat or radiation?
joe rogan
No, it's the signal.
It's the megahertz.
It's the spectrum, the radio spectrum that is a cell phone.
That's a good question.
Apparently, having the receiver right next to your balls is, like, really bad for your balls.
Your balls are just battling this radiation.
Now, I just want to say, I've done no research other than read what he said.
So I haven't researched this online.
Yeah.
unidentified
It's like the brain cancer.
It switches left and right every time.
brian redban
Every time they say, oh no, cell phones give you brain cancer.
unidentified
But they say it's true one day and then it's true not the other day.
joe rogan
I don't think, first of all, I don't think it has to give you brain damage to be fucking you up.
It could be fucking you up.
In subtle ways.
It's very possible.
It doesn't necessarily have to give you tumors.
But if the potential for giving you tumors is there, what does that mean?
That it either kills you or does nothing to you?
So either it turns your fucking head into a grapefruit, you know, and pineapples start growing off the side of your brain.
Or it does nothing.
That's ridiculous to me.
To me, that seems like we're being silly.
That's a silly way of looking at health.
It has no effect on you other than maybe kills your brain.
duncan trussell
I just tweeted this thing in Virginia.
There's a part of Virginia that is a cell phone free zone because there's some kind of radio telescopes out there and they want to have the purest signal and they don't want any disruption.
So there's a name for these zones.
And there are these people who've been moving to this town.
I can't remember the name of it.
Green something, West Virginia.
It's on my last tweet.
But they've been moving to this town because they think that they're sensitive to cell phone frequencies and they break out in rashes.
And this article, it said that the UN has acknowledged that this...
Does exist.
This health problem does exist, but there's no proof that it's from cell phones.
But there are people who get really sick when they're in cell phone areas.
And I'm sure a lot of them are kooks.
But who knows?
joe rogan
Well, that's a good guess because a lot of everybody, whenever outrageous claims come up, you've got to think a certain percentage of them are kooks.
I don't think we've completely assessed the effects of all these wireless signals.
duncan trussell
Yeah, think of that shit, man.
Think about the fucking megabytes of information pouring through the air at any second.
unidentified
Right.
duncan trussell
The information that can create the beautiful world of Warcraft is like flying around me at every second.
That can't be good for you.
That's so much information just blasting out of your modem at all times.
How is that not going to affect you in some way?
joe rogan
Yeah, even if you can't process the information rationally, is your brain still tuning into it?
Like all these wireless signals that are in our...
I mean, we never think about that because it really hasn't...
Wireless...
Like, full wireless like we have now with internet and radio signals where your cordless phones are on a certain frequency and then of course cell phones.
This is really kind of recent, right?
How many years has it been?
Slowly since the 80s, right?
duncan trussell
Yeah, but even in the...
joe rogan
That's when it started?
duncan trussell
I don't know when wireless routers started.
joe rogan
Much more recently.
unidentified
Yeah.
duncan trussell
Yeah, there were cell phones, but I bet the information that was coming through was less.
It had to have been, because fewer people had cell phones.
joe rogan
I remember the first time I got a computer that was wireless.
I was like, this is the craziest fucking thing I've ever seen in my life.
I'm nowhere near a wire, and I'm online.
duncan trussell
Right.
joe rogan
And that's when you really start to think how crazy the fucking internet is.
That this thing that I can't see can fly through the air at ridiculous speeds.
duncan trussell
Yeah.
joe rogan
And sits on my laptop and I get all the answers to anything.
It's basically, this is a magic box that lets me have every answer to everything that's ever been asked that human pings have answered.
duncan trussell
But what's coming through the air?
Isn't it just a, is it like a sound that's telling your computer?
unidentified
It's a signal.
duncan trussell
It's a signal that's like ones and zeros, basically.
joe rogan
It's at a certain frequency, yeah.
unidentified
It's like the old dial tone sound that used to dial in using a 56K modem, but quiet.
Yeah.
joe rogan
I believe that wireless internet was invented by Nikola Tesla, too.
I believe the concept of it came from his work.
Is that true?
You did that drunk Tesla.
duncan trussell
Yeah.
joe rogan
Drunken moment.
And if you haven't seen this, folks, it is one...
I retweeted it just the other day.
duncan trussell
I saw it.
joe rogan
It's one of my...
One of my favorite videos that I think is one of the funniest videos ever.
First of all, it's so informative.
It's really interesting.
A lot of people don't even know who Nikola Tesla is.
He was this amazing genius.
And one of my personal best examples of that I have a lot of theories about brilliant people.
And a lot of the brilliant people that I've met have been crazy.
There's something there.
They might not be 100% crazy.
Maybe it's only 10% crazy.
Maybe they're hanging on with 20% or 30% crazy.
I almost believe to be super, super brilliant at something like Tesla was, at that level, so far beyond everybody else, that almost you have to be tuned out.
You can't be balanced.
There's no way.
duncan trussell
Remember when you were a kid and you would play make-believe with your friends?
Whatever that was that you did, like...
I don't know.
Cowboys and Indians.
joe rogan
I play with my daughter all the time.
duncan trussell
So now imagine this.
Imagine that You had to play that game for the rest of your life.
Even though you knew you were playing with kids and you knew it was just this big kids game, maybe when people get super, super, super smart, they recognize that they're sort of trapped in this dimension where everybody's deeply engrossed in what amounts to a baby's game that they all think is very important.
They all think it's really serious, but you recognize, oh no, this isn't Even a 1% of what exists in the world.
This isn't even 1%.
These idiots are playing the game of, like, presidents and country and army and police officer and married person.
But it's just a game.
Maybe when you get really, really smart, you see that, and all of a sudden, you don't...
If you're not really smart, or if you're just one of us, you just normally play the game.
You don't even think about it.
You wake up, go to work, you just play the game.
But imagine if you knew this was a make-believe game.
So every day you woke up and you're like, well, gotta go play this absurd, silly game.
And you just knew it.
Then you'd start doing weird shit.
Because it'd be hard for you to just instinctually do all the different things that everyone does.
You'd start doing weird shit.
And people would be like, he's kind of off, isn't he?
He's a little off.
He doesn't shake hands.
I wonder why he doesn't shake hands.
What's shaking hands?
This is a stupid fuck.
I don't want to slap tentacles.
I'm sorry.
I don't feel like rubbing tentacles with you today.
joe rogan
You don't want to touch people.
You don't want to offer up your sword hand.
duncan trussell
I feel disrespected.
joe rogan
You know, that's what it was.
You would offer up your sword hand.
duncan trussell
That's right.
joe rogan
You couldn't kill each other at that moment.
duncan trussell
I'm not going to stab you.
joe rogan
That's why in England they still drive on the left-hand side.
You know, we drive on the right-hand side.
They drive on the left because that was how you rode a horse and had your sword in your right hand.
So if some douchebags come in the other direction, you want to get them on your right side so you can sword his ass.
duncan trussell
Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
That's why they drive on that side of the street.
I mean, it makes sense because, look, realistically, it was just a couple hundred years ago and people were riding horses everywhere.
Times were tough.
That's not that long ago, man.
unidentified
I know.
joe rogan
It's amazing when you stop and think about that.
And Nikola Tesla is really one of the reasons why we're so fucking advanced.
If you look back at the inventions that this guy was responsible for and all the patents that this guy was responsible for, it's a brilliant thing.
And I don't remember hearing a fucking peep about him in high school.
Somebody told me about him when I was in college.
It wasn't even in a class.
Some dude was reading something about the guy and he looked interesting on the cover.
I think that's how I learned about Nikola Tesla.
But I mean, obviously I didn't take any science.
duncan trussell
Yeah, I'm sure.
joe rogan
But you never hear about it.
You hear about Thomas Edison.
You hear about Benjamin Franklin.
The people that invented it.
Oh, he invented electricity.
He went a kite with a fucking key.
unidentified
That's right.
joe rogan
No, Nikola Tesla was talking to aliens, bitch.
That guy was inventing everything and wound up dying like completely crazy.
duncan trussell
Yeah.
joe rogan
At the end.
duncan trussell
Yeah, well, yeah, he was, I mean, I feel like I'm quoting the drunk history, but he is essentially, he was in love with a white pigeon.
And he was wandering around New York.
And, you know, New York was lit up with his technology.
And he was just broke.
And it was all there because it came out of his mind.
You know what, I'll give you a weird little trivia fact.
joe rogan
Who stole money from him?
Was it Edison?
duncan trussell
Well, no.
joe rogan
How did he die broke?
duncan trussell
He died broke because he had some bad luck.
One of his main laboratories burnt down.
He had basically figured out in his mind a way to generate, I guess you'd consider it wireless electricity.
He had this idea that rather than having to have an engine generating the electricity, that I don't know, reality itself or every bit of reality had compressed within it enough energy to supply anything.
There's like energy all around us.
That was his idea.
We're just surrounded by energy and there's a way to tap into it.
joe rogan
There's a way to broadcast electricity like a radio.
duncan trussell
Well, yeah, exactly.
Assuming that you didn't have to have a hydroelectric dam or oil or whatever to create energy, assuming that in every inch of the universe there was infinite energy, then every house would become a power plant.
It wouldn't all be based on wherever the main energy is coming from, the nuclear power plant or whatever.
It would be some sort of device that you could put in your house that could channel the energy.
joe rogan
So channel, but what are they calling that energy?
Is it just something we haven't figured out and discovered yet?
duncan trussell
Right.
Something we haven't figured out.
joe rogan
So instead of the crude method of pulling oil out of the ground and lighting it on fire, there's another step.
duncan trussell
Well, yeah.
It's obvious.
I mean, look at fucking the solar panels.
joe rogan
Right.
duncan trussell
I mean, there's enough energy from the sun to keep every organic form.
They need to make that the law.
unidentified
Why don't they just make that roofs?
brian redban
In California, you have to have solar panels on your roof.
joe rogan
Well, fuck laws, man.
You don't need to make more laws.
The last thing we need is more people telling people what they have to spend their fucking money on.
duncan trussell
But it's also expensive to make them and the amount of time it takes you to recoup, the amount it costs to install them and make them.
joe rogan
Right.
Right now, it's not financially a good deal.
unidentified
But don't they give you tag backs or whatever they're called?
joe rogan
I don't know.
unidentified
They give you money back?
joe rogan
I would think about doing it just to get off the grid.
When I lived in Colorado, I wanted to do that.
Tom, was Gia Sanas?
Yeah.
Fuck, I can't forget his name.
A friend of mine.
Anyway, he had a windmill set up at his house.
duncan trussell
That's cool.
joe rogan
Yeah.
duncan trussell
Those are awesome, man.
I love passing those fields of windmills.
It's so cool.
joe rogan
Yeah, he had a windmill set up at his house, and he was giving money back.
They would give him money, rather.
They were giving energy back to the grid, which is crazy.
He was making up his own energy.
unidentified
That's cool.
duncan trussell
You know, man, the thing I've been thinking lately is that we live in such a funny time because I guess people just don't...
Like, if you start saying things like, no, you know what, I have the feeling that there's actually another energy source out there that we haven't even stumbled upon yet that...
It has like a million times more energy than you could ever need.
If you say that now, people really will – you seem kind of like a fruit or a flake or an idiot or they're like, well, base it in science.
You don't know what that is or you don't know what you're talking about.
But there was a time when if you were just talking about electricity, you would have seen like an absolute lunatic.
Like if you went around in the, I don't know, 1200s and started telling people, listen, there's this fucking energy called electricity that's more powerful than fire.
You can use it to, you can run it through wires and if you touch it, you'll get electrocuted.
They'd be like, get this fucking witch on the stake!
What are you talking about, warlock?
joe rogan
We are going to harness lightning.
duncan trussell
Yeah, yeah.
What are you talking about, Frankenstein?
What are you talking about?
So in the same way, man, I think that there's probably...
I've been thinking about such a...
I have this weird idea.
joe rogan
Do you remember when Frankenstein, when he made that fucking chick?
When they made Frankenstein and they actually had to get lightning to make him alive?
They had to hit the tower with lightning.
duncan trussell
Wait, you mean they really did that?
One of them.
joe rogan
One of the movies.
I'm sorry.
duncan trussell
Oh, the movie.
unidentified
Back to the Future?
joe rogan
One of the Frankenstein movies.
unidentified
Remember when they did that?
duncan trussell
No, I know.
Frankenstein was fucking...
I know that, like, Frankenstein, whatever, like, had to have, like, a hit of lightning to bring the person to life.
That's right.
joe rogan
I'm sorry I interrupted you.
So go back to what you're saying.
duncan trussell
Well, what I was thinking is, it's like, okay, so, like, what if...
This is something I so wish that you could do and you'll never be able to do it, but it would be so amazing to look at from the beginning of time to right now in a 20 second fast forward to see what that blur of happening looked like or the evolution.
It would be so fun to be able to see in a real way what evolution looked like from the evolution of a fucking I don't know, the evolution of a chicken into a, or a dinosaur into a chicken.
It'd be amazing to watch that thing happen really fast.
It'd be really cool.
But, so, like, okay, see, this is gonna sound crazy, and I'm sorry if it seems rambling and weird, because I haven't quite figured out how to articulate this idea, but, like, if you have, okay, you have fire.
Fire leaves Where there's been a fire, there's soot, there's ashes, black soot, whatever, from the carbons being released in the fire, right?
The carbon, rather.
So, in the same way, I was thinking, what if there's another form of energy that's raging through time, and this form of energy, instead of leaving ashes, leaves evolved things?
It's like the byproduct of the energy is that it causes things to evolve and advance and grow and become more sophisticated.
Maybe that energy, there's literally an energy associated with evolution.
There's an energy that you can tap into.
Which is why computers are so amazing is because they can really tap into that energy right away in the form of open source software and stuff like that.
And you see things that go open source or things that allow...
The most people to have the most input, so the most intelligent people having the input create the advance in whatever the thing is.
You know, the classic example of it, a silly example of it, is like Reddit, where someone will write something and then the top comment inevitably will be so fucking funny because hundreds and hundreds of people have voted it up to the top.
So it creates this evolved way of getting information to float up to the surface.
So in the same way, it's like...
joe rogan
That's brilliant.
duncan trussell
It's fucking...
Yeah, so like...
It's brilliant.
It's awesome.
It's the way our government should work.
joe rogan
YouTube comments do that, too.
Don't they're the most favorited?
duncan trussell
It goes up to the top.
So that's a form of tuning into this energy, this evolutionary force as it's manifesting in the form of the most...
The comment that is the strongest comment or the comment that works best in that particular zeitgeist or paradigm goes to the top.
That comment is the fucking animal that survives.
That comment's the animal that in its environment does the best and it's getting there through...
You know, people voting.
But what I'm saying is technology has, like, harnessed the evolutionary flow in that situation.
So I'm thinking, okay, maybe evolution itself is an energy.
What if you could fucking harness that shit?
Remember in Star Trek?
What was it called?
The Genesis Beam or whatever?
They blast the planet with a thing that makes the life grow out of it all of a sudden.
joe rogan
Wow, I don't remember that at all.
Was that the new Star Trek?
duncan trussell
Reverse spoiler alert.
joe rogan
New Star Trek?
duncan trussell
No, it's an old one.
joe rogan
Like old Captain Kirk?
duncan trussell
No, I think it was the Wrath of Khan.
joe rogan
Oh, the Wrath of Khan.
duncan trussell
Don't you remember The Wrath of Khan?
joe rogan
Ricardo Montalban.
duncan trussell
Fuck yeah, with the ear mites.
joe rogan
I was like, how the fuck are you going to have the dude from Fantasy Island be the bad guy in a fucking Star Trek movie?
duncan trussell
I think he did great.
joe rogan
Get out of here, bitch.
Yeah, he was great.
Oh, he was great.
I mean, he's a great actor, don't get me wrong.
But at the time, I was like, this is the dumbest shit I've ever heard of in my life.
unidentified
And they're like, no, Ricardo Montalban is a very respected actor.
duncan trussell
Yeah, he was, too.
joe rogan
Handsome bastard, man.
duncan trussell
That handsome son of a bitch.
joe rogan
Watch what kind of pussy he got off of Fantasy Island.
Your fantasies can come true.
unidentified
Didn't he just die?
joe rogan
Did he die?
I bet he overdosed from pussy.
I bet the line of chicks that wanted to fuck him in the 70s is probably still outside of his house.
They're just getting to him right now.
unidentified
Because I have no time for all you girls.
joe rogan
Welcome to Fantasy Island.
He had his own midget.
He was the first guy on TV to have his own midget.
duncan trussell
Yeah, and you know, have you ever seen the pilot?
joe rogan
No.
duncan trussell
It's kind of creepy, man.
It's like diabolic.
Like that character, Rourke, that was his name, right?
Rourke was, in the pilot, it was almost like he was Satan or something.
Like he was some dark being.
joe rogan
Really?
duncan trussell
Yeah, because, you know, in history, in occult history...
always have imps or familiars that's a common way to know that you're around like that's why you know like david lynch in twin peaks that spooky little fucking backwards talking midget you know the guy that table is for my god right um so like that's an occult symbol like it like witches would always have around them in lore they would always have like a cat you know some kind of creature and sometimes they'd have a little imp or a creature with them
so mantelban rorke's tattoo was his name It seemed like in the pilot they were thinking, let's make this like, let's make him a Faustian character where he's like, where he's not, you know, he's maybe not giving people exactly what they want.
Because remember, some people would want something and it'd fuck them up.
joe rogan
I don't know.
I don't know.
Apparently he had meningitis and he didn't know.
He just had a headache.
He knew something was wrong and he went to the doctor and I guess the line was ridiculous and he wound up just couldn't take it anymore and he left the doctor and he wound up dying.
duncan trussell
Oh shit.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Get yourself checked out people.
It's not a bad thing to do.
Smart.
But the point is I'm pretty sure he was going to do Fantasy Island.
unidentified
That was a fucking...
joe rogan
Great show.
What a great idea.
People have fantasies.
They fly in.
They get welcomed by this magic man.
And this magical island is going to make your dreams come true and teach you a little lesson, bitch.
They always taught you a nice little lesson and tucked you in quiet and then let you leave the island and you kind of get it now.
duncan trussell
Wait, did everyone who came in on that plane leave on the plane?
Didn't some people not make it out?
unidentified
They all die.
I think I've seen it once.
I don't know anything about that shit.
joe rogan
You can't have people die on your island, Ben.
You see what happens with Aruba.
There's always some fucking 19-year-old chick from Arizona or something like that.
It's just on a vacation.
Aruba's like where they turn up missing.
unidentified
What's the one with the boat?
joe rogan
Scary.
unidentified
What's the one with the boat?
Not Gilligan's Island, but the other one with the love boat.
I always got love boat in that show mixed up.
joe rogan
Oh, did people die in the love boat?
No fucking way.
unidentified
Did they cross those shows ever?
joe rogan
I don't know.
Probably.
unidentified
It seems like they did.
joe rogan
They should.
duncan trussell
Like Love Boat Shipwrecks on Fantasy Island?
unidentified
Right, something like that.
joe rogan
Didn't Gopher from the Love Boat become a politician?
He did, I believe.
duncan trussell
Did he?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, I need to research that.
But I'm pretty sure he did.
I'm pretty sure he became a senator or something.
duncan trussell
Politicians are...
I cannot wait until the day, and this day will never come, but the day when we have zoos, where politicians are placed in zoos, like antiquated things, like kids can come and look at them, like, behold...
joe rogan
Yeah, Fred Grandy, that's his name.
He was a politician.
He was a congressman.
He used to be Gopher.
duncan trussell
Weirdos, man.
joe rogan
I wonder what kind of crazy shit they did back in those days.
Because back then, when they did shit, they could totally get away with everything.
You know, they just were complete freaks.
Like, remember that movie about the guy from Hogan's Heroes?
What the fuck's his name?
The main dude who wound up killing himself.
And...
You don't know the movie I'm talking about?
unidentified
Nope.
joe rogan
It's a great movie.
Here, let me look it up real quick because it's really important.
It was the guy from Talk Soup.
unidentified
John Henson?
joe rogan
No, no.
duncan trussell
John Henson.
unidentified
The gray patch.
Jay Leonard sideways.
No, the dude from Love Letter Movies.
joe rogan
Love Letter Movies.
What is his name?
unidentified
Kissy Face Movies.
joe rogan
Fuck, I can't.
Autofocus, that's the movie.
unidentified
Greg Kinnear.
joe rogan
Greg Kinnear, you got it.
Yeah, bam.
It's a great fucking movie.
They only got a 6.6 on the IMDb.
How dare you?
unidentified
Dude, look at Nick Swartz's new movie.
joe rogan
I felt like it's an excellent movie.
I know, I didn't want to bring that up.
unidentified
That's so crazy.
joe rogan
But this movie, Autofocus, if you haven't seen it, you must.
You must see it.
It's about this guy, whatever the fuck his name was, Bob Crane.
He was a sex fiend.
duncan trussell
Oh yeah, I've seen it.
joe rogan
Off the chart sex fiend.
And he started out on the show A Married Guy and somehow or another he got so many girls from being on Hogan's Heroes that he just completely became out of control.
Didn't take care of his career, didn't take care of his family, just was just banging chicks and filming it all.
And they're stacked and he eventually wound up getting murdered and it was a very sordid thing because they believed that the guy who played the Willem Dafoe character was the one who killed him and they even I think they had that in the movie as well.
But either way, it's a great fucking movie.
duncan trussell
Why'd he kill him?
joe rogan
They fucking hated each other.
They're boning together and shit.
They probably got jealous that Bob Crane was getting all the punana.
He used to sit in front of a television at a bar when he knew the show would be on.
his show was like long since canceled it would be on in reruns and he would be doing like local theater like at these towns and he would just bang all the local broads and film them all they were freaks back then they didn't have any Twitter they didn't have any TMZ you could just go off you didn't have to If something was on a VHS tape, I mean, who's going to see?
It wasn't even a VHS. It was like 18 millimeter, 8 millimeter, 16 millimeter, whatever the hell it is.
You know, those little reels.
You had to play it on a projection thing.
And he was like one of the first dudes to be on top of that shit, that technology of filming things.
unidentified
Hey, did you see those naked pictures of that girl that were released?
That actress chick?
duncan trussell
No.
joe rogan
What actress chick?
unidentified
She has to be in a new movie soon because there's no way that that just happens to be released.
That's the big talk on the internet.
duncan trussell
Let me see.
unidentified
What's her name?
joe rogan
I don't know who that is, man.
unidentified
What's her face?
joe rogan
I have no idea.
duncan trussell
No, she's like super famous.
joe rogan
That girl's super famous?
unidentified
Yeah, she's me...
joe rogan
Yo, I picked up the cover of one of those Us Weekly things, whatever it is.
One of those.
Inside something or another.
And I didn't know who any of the people on it were.
I literally knew who none of the celebrities were.
duncan trussell
I don't know any celebrities on the way.
unidentified
Scarlett Johansson.
joe rogan
And I was like, I think I've won.
I think I've won.
duncan trussell
Yeah, it's good to not know celebrity names.
joe rogan
Like, in this one battle with gossip, I got free.
Because I had no attachment to any of them.
And it occurred to me, when I looked at the magazine, and I didn't have any attachment, I'd be like, God damn it, if there was a fucking, some Jennifer Aniston broken heart, because Gerard Butler, you know, fucking did her wrong, I'd be like, oh wow, what'd that guy do?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I'd have to go and read it.
unidentified
I would have to go read it.
joe rogan
I'm invested in that storyline.
But there was some guy on from The Bachelorette and some girl on from fucking Orange County Wives or something like that.
I didn't know who anybody was.
I was like, this is great.
And they had a couple little teeny boppers.
Joey breaks up with Demi, wants her back.
I'm like...
I don't know who the fuck they are either.
And it occurred to me while I didn't have any idea who any of these people were, how freeing that was.
unidentified
Because it is like a little goddamn drug.
joe rogan
If there's some fucking crazy story about someone who you know their storyline, like Tiger Woods.
You know, Tiger Woods, you know, man resurfaces.
You know, Tiger Woods apparently was bisexual.
And that was on the cover of Us Weekly.
That would be like a goddamn tractor beam.
You wouldn't be able to avoid it.
If I sent you a link and it was photos of Tiger Woods kissing a man, you are so goddamn connected to that storyline.
It would be impossible to get you to not click that link.
duncan trussell
Well, if you had the photograph, you'd be a millionaire.
joe rogan
If you had that photograph and you put that online, I guarantee you it would be like 100% click through.
Like if you send people it and they know they have this link and they click this link and they see Tiger Woods kicking that dude, click.
It would be like 100%.
Like no one's going to go, who cares?
Yeah, they're gonna see.
People are invested in that storyline because it's such a charged one.
Such a big scandal.
Very unattractive guy.
Beautiful wife.
Guy super, super fucking successful.
Like ridiculously rich.
The greatest golfer perhaps ever.
And just fucks everyone.
It just fucks everyone.
So it's so highly charged that if something else happened to it, it's like, well, I'm already invested in this Tiger Woods story.
I can't believe he's kissing guys.
I would be drawn to it.
But all these people, one of them was, I don't know any of them.
I don't know any of these people.
One was on America's Got Talent or something.
I don't know who the fuck any of them were.
I was like, this is awesome.
I could walk away.
I don't have to read it.
I don't have to open it up.
duncan trussell
It's gravity, man.
That shit's got gravity.
It's got attention gravity.
Some stuff in the world does the same thing to your attention that the planet does to satellites.
It'll grab your attention and suddenly you're circling this weird temporary vortex in the subject of reality, the planet, with your attention.
It's so stupid.
There's so many things that have that example.
Football, any sports, it's the exact same attention gravity.
Video games, attention gravity.
Girls, attention gravity.
It's all different gravitational fields that will, depending on what person you're like, you're going to get your attention sucked into this certain thing.
And once it gets sucked in deep enough, you're not thinking about anything else.
You know that thing when everything shuts down except for whatever the silly thing is?
joe rogan
Like when you're locked into a video game.
duncan trussell
Yes, that's it.
You will negate yourself if you get sucked deep enough into a video game.
Complete introversion.
joe rogan
Do you think that it's like a hijacking of our natural reward system by this new creation?
duncan trussell
Absolutely.
joe rogan
It is what it is, right?
unidentified
Totally.
joe rogan
It's because I've always said that we're sort of set up to imitate successful behavior, right?
But I don't think we can differentiate 100%.
You know how we can't differentiate between a placebo and an actual drug in certain situations?
Even if the person knows that something is a placebo, they show marked effects.
You know, if they're concentrating on this actually having some sort of an effect, it shows some sort of effects.
duncan trussell
Oh yeah, totally, I read that.
Placebo, I know, I don't understand that, but I get it.
Placebo effect's amazing.
That's why people have different rituals they do.
joe rogan
What was my point?
I had a point.
unidentified
Couldn't you get the same effect, though, from you?
joe rogan
Hold on.
What were we just talking about?
duncan trussell
We're talking about attention vampires.
We're talking about the forces of nature that grab your attention.
And you were saying, is that based on a reward system?
Is that hijacking the reward system that nature...
joe rogan
Okay, that's what I meant.
What I meant by that is that we've created something with big events.
Anything that you see in your life that's memorable, they're very shocking and engaging because you need to learn from this situation.
If you come over a hill and you stumble upon a bunch of barbarians slaughtering a village with axes...
This is supposed to shock the fucking shit out of you.
You're supposed to be aware that this is all possible.
This is like, oh my god, you could be dying right now.
You need to learn from this.
But when we recreate that in some sort of a crazy imaginary flat one-dimensional or two-dimensional image with sound that comes from all around you...
I don't know if your brain 100% can differentiate that from reality any more than a placebo has an effect on a person.
I wonder.
duncan trussell
You know what it is, dude?
Sorry to cut you off.
It's okay.
When you take your cat and you have one of those, I don't know, any cat toy, watch what it does to your cat's attention.
Your cat goes from, like, if your cat gets into it enough, it stops being a toy, and now the cat obviously thinks it's attacking a bird.
It's into it.
It's in nature again, and it's stalking its prey, and its attention is totally sucked into that cat toy.
That's what video games are for the human nervous system.
They're like human cat toys.
You're playing this fucking cat toy.
Your attention's sucked into it.
And, like, you know people when they portray aliens coming down?
They're gonna use laser guns to subdue us.
Fuck that.
They're just going to like, some super advanced being would just analyze our nervous system and just like, hypnotize us.
That's what it would do.
joe rogan
Well, we're assuming that life is going to be hard.
We're assuming that life isn't going to be like a fucking Wi-Fi frequency.
Just because we are physical and we are hard and we touch things and move them and manipulate matter doesn't mean all life has to do that.
We know that bacteria doesn't do that.
We can't even fucking see it.
We need some crazy lens that magnifies our normal reality down to the point where it's supposed to be completely invisible to us.
We're not supposed to be able to see it.
But yeah, we can find it.
And we can find that there's some life there.
There's something there.
Intelligent life might be ideas.
Intelligent life might be creativity.
What creativity might be is when you just relax the fuck enough to listen to this intelligent life that's all around you, that's trying to...
where you're going to manipulate matter to the point where you punch a fucking hole through space and time, and the idea of tangible objects no longer exists.
duncan trussell
Right.
joe rogan
Like, that's the destiny.
That's your reason for your curiosity.
That's the reason why you've created music and motivation and cocaine.
You're supposed to be pushing towards this inevitable goal of creating some sort of a fucking opening where this thing changes into the next thing.
duncan trussell
You know what that made me just think of?
Like, imagine, you know when those miners got stuck in the mine?
joe rogan
Yeah.
duncan trussell
Imagine if when they got stuck in the mine, some kind of fume came out that gave them complete amnesia And so they completely lost their identities and couldn't even speak any language anymore.
And so they thought that that's where they were born as this stupid mine.
And imagine the people outside the mine would first have to teach them English.
Teach them a language.
Teach them who they were.
Give them all this information first before they can get trapped out of, you know, escape from the mind.
So in the same way, maybe this whole dimension is some kind of cave-in.
And on the other side of it, there's like super advanced beings that are trying to teach us like, hey, wake up!
You know, try this, try this, try this.
You have to get smarter before they...
Because like, if you can't tell someone in the 1800s about electricity, you sure as fuck can't tell them about the multiverse.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
This is going to sound totally crazy.
But what if people are to ideas what...
Reconditioned laptops are to people.
And that when you get a reconditioned laptop, you got a laptop that's all this hard drive, all this space and operating system, and then you swipe all the data at and just give it to someone to add their own stuff to.
Completely clean.
But has this past.
And that is what a human is.
You come into this life, you press a reset button.
What is that?
unidentified
It's kind of like Carlos Mencia.
joe rogan
I don't get it.
unidentified
Yeah, neither do I. I was talking about that tweet out of nowhere.
joe rogan
What tweet?
unidentified
Chris Hardwick's tweet.
joe rogan
Oh, god damn, dude.
You lost me totally.
Yeah, Chris Hardwick and Brian and I had a conversation about Stitcher.
I think other people see podcasting differently than we do, though.
You know, there's a lot of people that are trying to monetize their podcast.
And, you know...
unidentified
When you're in the top five or top ten, he was breaking down 3,000 listeners an episode on Stitcher.
brian redban
3,000 is how many people listen on Stitcher.
unidentified
He's in the top four of Comedy iTunes rankings.
I know the numbers just because we did this show.
I'm not going to say the numbers, but I'm just going to say...
3,000 is not going to affect anything in the top five.
joe rogan
Well, it really depends on what you're doing.
Some people are actually selling their iTunes podcasts, and they're building up towards the point where they're going to sell them.
Well, that's different.
unidentified
It's not, though.
joe rogan
Okay, but some people have advertising that's based on their iTunes ranking.
It could be based on how many hits you get on iTunes.
And in that sense, he's absolutely right.
Because in that sense, if he doesn't want to shit on Stitcher, and I believe they pulled it off, he's absolutely right because he gets paid by iTunes.
What he should be able to do is go to the company that's sponsoring him and say, well, here's another application called Stitcher.
It's very easy to track.
Why can't we work that into it?
Let's say I get X amount per thousand downloads on iTunes, and then a percentage of the downloads on Stitcher.
It seems to me that if it's trackable, you should still be able to run the ads on it.
As far as I know, they don't do any editing of your show.
unidentified
They don't do any editing.
The only thing it is, it's a banner on the app, which is about 1 twelfth Of the app.
joe rogan
Right.
unidentified
And it's like from Chris Hardwick's numbers that he did in a blog post.
I can't remember the exact number.
I want to say it was 800...
brian redban
Every 800 views of that teeny banner on that app, he gets a dollar, which sucks, but knowing what Google AdSense pays for views of an ad, it's not far off.
joe rogan
Well, you know, listen, man, he's got his own thing.
He likes doing it a certain way, and he should be able to.
It's his product.
I'm agreeing with Chris Hardwick 100%.
100%.
But for us, we have a totally different take on Stitcher because the podcast is, first of all, we started off with, it wasn't supposed to be a job.
It was a goof.
It was just me and Brian having fun.
I wanted to do it to just do something.
I thought it would be fun to just do it and do it on a regular basis.
unidentified
The podcast is...
joe rogan
And people like things that are free.
It's good.
It's good to give people free shit.
I think it's in the spirit of things.
You know, it shows that the entertainment that you're trying to provide, you're really trying to provide it for the sake of it.
If you don't, you know what I'm saying?
If you don't have any ulterior motives, you're just doing it for the sake of it.
You're trying to make it good.
You're trying to make it fun.
People respond to that, and they like it.
And they'll support you in other ways.
They'll come see your comedy show.
unidentified
They'll...
duncan trussell
You know what, man?
I disagree with that.
I think it's awesome to give free content, but I also think it's fine to charge for it.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
You misinterpreting me.
I do not think there's anything wrong with charging it.
I just don't need to.
So since I don't need to, I make it free.
It's that simple.
If I needed to, like in your case, I know that you charge occasionally for podcasts.
duncan trussell
Well, we do an extra episode a week and charge a buck.
joe rogan
Right.
And this has been a source of controversy.
And some fucking dummy on my message board wrote some whole thing about how he's upset at you because you charge for a podcast and he'll never fucking pay.
Listen, no one is telling you you have to pay.
And in fact, Duncan is actually giving you something for free still.
He does an extra one a week.
And in the extra one, he wants to see if he can make some money.
duncan trussell
Right.
That's so funny.
People are gross, man.
joe rogan
And people are gross.
duncan trussell
But I think it's – I know it's – that's what I thought originally.
But then when I started thinking about it more, I realized that it uncovers this certain layer of conditioning that exists in people.
Because like when you go to the ATM and the ATM asks you for two bucks or whatever to get cash out because you're not at your bank – You're just like, ah, fuck it.
I'll do it.
When you're at the gas station and it's like 35 cents convenience fee.
I don't even know what that fucking means.
But I'll pay it.
But the moment artists start saying, hey, I'd like to make money for the stuff I'm making, people are like, what the fuck?
unidentified
Fuck!
duncan trussell
You're going to charge for that shit?
joe rogan
Once they're getting it for free, you mean.
Once they're getting it for free.
If you start charging from the beginning, people have no problem with continuing to pay for things.
It's once they start getting it for free.
duncan trussell
Well, that's why we added an extra episode.
And the experiment totally worked, and it made me think...
You know, this is a model, maybe this is a new model that other people can use.
It's like, instead of pulling the rug out from people's feet and saying, you're paying now, I'm charging for everything, you always offer some free thing for people to enjoy, and then you add one extra thing to it so people are really into it and don't mind paying.
Most people send us emails saying they like supporting the show.
They like it.
joe rogan
Most people do.
The reason why people get upset is the reason why people...
There's people that find something anywhere to get angry at.
And it's because they're looking for it.
They're looking for something to piss them off.
And if you're angry at some guy whose podcast you like because he would like a dollar for an hour and a half's worth of him talking...
I understand if you don't have a buck.
Look, I've been there before, man.
I've been to points in my life where I rolled pennies so I'd have something to eat for dinner.
I understand poverty.
I've been there for a long time.
I totally get that.
You don't have to buy it, but you don't have to be fucking mad that he's selling it.
Especially when someone's giving you something for free.
duncan trussell
And also, by the way, how about you email me and ask for the fucking MP3? There's like a 99% chance I probably would have just sent it to you.
joe rogan
Okay, you just fucked up and said on the internet...
duncan trussell
That was the one time I would have done it!
joe rogan
Respond to emails.
duncan trussell
I'll never do it again.
joe rogan
Listen, you're going to be trolled, son.
duncan trussell
Okay, well, whatever.
joe rogan
You're going to be trolled by a hot chick right now.
duncan trussell
That'll be terrible.
joe rogan
But it's really a dude.
duncan trussell
That will be terrible.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's what's the next step.
duncan trussell
I shouldn't have said that.
unidentified
Whatever.
joe rogan
You fucked up.
You opened up the gates.
You challenged your fucking system.
duncan trussell
Fine.
joe rogan
You challenged the hackers of the world right there.
duncan trussell
To what?
joe rogan
To a duel.
duncan trussell
I do not challenge.
joe rogan
To a mentor duel.
duncan trussell
Why are you making fun of Anonymous for?
joe rogan
You said you would...
unidentified
I love Anonymous!
joe rogan
You said you would respond to email.
You saying you respond to emails is like opening up the gates to hell.
Sure, then someone's gonna go, okay, how do I get this motherfucker to look stupid?
duncan trussell
Oh, no.
unidentified
You're making fun of Netscape, bro?
duncan trussell
Now I'm paranoid.
Now I've got to exist in a Philip K. Dick universe with being terrified of people who email me.
You know what?
By the way, people already know I respond to shit because I talk to people on Facebook.
You do, on occasion, get some emails from people that it really seems like these are cops.
You know what I mean?
Oh, sure.
I got an email from somebody who's like...
Hi, me and my buds were thinking of taking some magic mushrooms and were wondering if you could tell us where to get them or could send us some in the mail.
But it was like the slang they were using was like...
joe rogan
Completely off.
duncan trussell
My buds.
joe rogan
Buds.
duncan trussell
Yeah, it was like weird off.
joe rogan
Worst fake hippie ever.
duncan trussell
Even if it was serious, I'm going to be like, oh sure, let me just mail you an illegal substance.
joe rogan
That is really hilarious.
duncan trussell
Yeah, it's very spooky.
joe rogan
I had a guy who wanted to get DMT from me in Cleveland and I knew he was a cop.
Because first of all, who the fuck is asking me for DMT? Cleveland.
And I'm in Cleveland, and this guy has a crew cut.
He's looking at me, and I'm like, this guy isn't drunk, he's not high, and I'm assessing the dude.
I'm looking at this guy, and I'm like, this guy seems like he's had some self-defense training.
It seems like he's a confident man.
It seems like he's got some weird...
Feeling of authority about him.
I was like, he's almost like he expects authority.
He expects you to...
This guy was such an obvious cunt.
It was ridiculous.
Because a bad cop, or at least a dumb cop, they get a feeling of entitlement around people.
You know, a dumb one.
I've seen it a bunch of times.
And I'm a big supporter of cops.
And I always say that 99% of cops are just trying to do a good job.
It's the 1% of cunts that fuck it up for everybody else.
You know, they run a pretty fucking tight ship in most police forces.
duncan trussell
Sure.
joe rogan
But this guy just eked a cop.
I was like, what are you talking about, man?
And he goes, come on, man.
DMT. He's looking at me, and I'm looking at him.
We're making eye contact.
I'm like, motherfucker, the last thing you want is DMT. You're not looking for DMT, you fucking weirdo.
Yeah.
Like you carried her out.
We had the weirdest stare-off, man.
It was so strange.
It was so strange, because he was totally full of shit.
There was no way this guy was looking at Tripp.
He wasn't looking at Tripp.
He was looking at fucking arrest me.
unidentified
You know that marijuana thing that John Heffron gave you?
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Ever since that show, every day, this guy writes me and he adds an extra $100.
He goes, $100 donation if you send me one of those marijuana sticks.
$200 donation.
He's done it every day.
I think I'm up to $500.
duncan trussell
You think that's a...
joe rogan
You should tell him to suck your cock on video.
duncan trussell
You should tell him to do an internet search.
unidentified
That's why I traced it.
duncan trussell
Tell him about Google.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, you can't get that shit on Google.
duncan trussell
You can't get a vaporized...
Oh, really?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, those...
These are California only.
unidentified
I'm really bored now.
duncan trussell
Oh, I see.
I didn't know that.
joe rogan
Or maybe...
Probably Colorado's rocking it, too.
unidentified
Did you hear they're thinking about closing the post office?
joe rogan
Yeah, man, I'm tired of getting mail.
duncan trussell
Yeah, me too.
joe rogan
How about we make it so that, just like our ancestors, we get to the point where nothing we have is traceable once the big bang happens and a fucking rock hits the planet and all our hardware corrodes.
We have nothing solid written anywhere.
unidentified
How about no post office and only quarters?
joe rogan
What do you mean only quarters?
unidentified
Dollar bills and stuff like that.
Paper money, but only quarters.
joe rogan
No pennies, nickels, and dollars?
unidentified
Everything rounds to a quarter.
Wouldn't that be a good idea?
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus, dude.
Everything in quarters?
unidentified
That seems annoying.
joe rogan
That seems like a nice excuse for them to raise taxes so that everything rounds off to a quarter.
No matter what, it rounds off to the next quarter.
unidentified
It always raises high and all that goes to the government.
joe rogan
That's not a good move.
What are you doing?
Want to give those fuckheads more money?
Have you been watching these Republican debates?
duncan trussell
Yeah.
unidentified
They're awesome.
joe rogan
Did you see the one where they were talking about the guy dying because he didn't have any money?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
He didn't have any insurance?
duncan trussell
Yeah.
joe rogan
She died and the audience was cheering.
unidentified
Yeah!
duncan trussell
Yeah!
joe rogan
Tell me about that.
What is that?
duncan trussell
Well, I'll tell you what it is.
The Tea Party is hilarious.
Because the moment you climb out of the pussy, it's open game.
But when you're in there, no one can touch you.
They're all anti-abortion, but the moment you're born, they're like, let him die.
You could have a baby that pops out and doesn't have insurance inside the fetus if the woman wanted to get inside the womb if the woman wanted an abortion.
The Tea Party would be like, no, it's evil.
The moment that baby comes out, if it doesn't have insurance...
Tea Party's like, let it die!
unidentified
Let it die!
duncan trussell
Mama didn't have insurance!
Let it die!
joe rogan
I don't think they feel that way about babies.
I think they feel that way about grown-ups.
Grown-ups only.
Once you're a grown-up, you're on your own.
duncan trussell
Grown-ups are just mutated babies.
joe rogan
Well, they're babies that grew up.
But I don't think they're anti-baby.
I think they're just...
When you get to a certain point, you're supposed to take personal responsibility.
I think the way they're going about it is pretty silly.
The idea should be that you should have a sense of community that is...
Sure.
Our real problem is that there's too many fucking people and that you cannot have communities of 20 million people because you're going to get a diffusion of responsibility.
You're going to get a situation where there's too many fucking people and they're not going to care about one life here or one life there or one person here or one person there.
They don't have to.
But if you lived in a village of 50 people, everyone would have to care about everyone.
And that's how we're supposed to live.
We're supposed to live like in the movie Little Red Riding Hood where there's a girl with the bug eyes.
It's really hot.
What's that chick?
She's blonde.
Who cares?
I don't care.
She's very hot.
She's in a lot of movies.
And she was in Little Red Riding Hood.
And they played this little village where there was a werewolf that came and was fucking everybody up.
I have to see all werewolf movies across.
Even Little Red Riding Hood.
But she lives in this little village.
And as I was watching, all these people sort of prepare their town and stockpile everything and prepare for this werewolf.
I was like, this is how people really are supposed to live.
They're supposed to live in small communities that are worried about outsiders.
That's how they're supposed to live.
It's supposed to be everybody that you know in this little area is your friend.
You're all cool.
You're cool together.
You work together.
You eat together.
You hunt together.
You cook together.
Everyone is in this little group.
The people that you don't know that come over the hill, those are the ones you have to worry about.
duncan trussell
I don't think people are supposed to live in any particular way.
I think that's what adaptation's all about.
joe rogan
Sure.
duncan trussell
So I think that now the real problem isn't that people are sucking the system dry.
The real problem is really quite clear.
It just seems like it's right in front of everyone.
unidentified
Diabetes.
duncan trussell
It's that 2% of the people on the planet have all the wealth.
That's the problem.
joe rogan
That is part of the problem.
But the other part of the problem is that the biological evolution, the evolution of the animal, the human animal itself, to adapt to this system of this community being intensely Like, incredibly larger than it used to be.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That our DNA and the way we think and behave, it's based on communities.
And when all of a sudden the community is some abstract number that you can't even wrap your head around.
A community of 300 million people.
Really?
duncan trussell
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, that's the only reason why we can accept states and, you know, if we just had one giant state, it would be so completely ridiculous.
You know, it would seem so strange.
duncan trussell
You You mean like the New World Order or like a global...
joe rogan
No, I mean the idea of a giant community of a bunch of people you don't even fucking know in a number that's so large you can't wrap your head around.
We don't know what 300 million means.
300 million is just some numbers on a piece of paper.
No one's brain registers what 300 million people is.
But that's the community that we're involved in.
Somehow or another, the world has grown to the point where 300 million people plus the whole rest of the world is constantly communicating at the exact same time, which is something the biological body of today is absolutely not ready for.
So all of our checks and balances and natural reward systems are completely fucking hijacked.
Just like they're hijacked with movies that fucking trick us.
Just like they're hijacked with placebos.
The whole system is hijacked.
And we just have not caught up to how much life has changed.
duncan trussell
It's not catching up.
And a big reason it is not catching up.
joe rogan
It is, but slowly.
It takes longer than the thing itself to grow around us.
duncan trussell
Well, that's because the people who are in control of the system are the 2% who have all the money.
That's the fucking problem.
joe rogan
But isn't that why the system has gotten this big this fast in the first place?
It's almost like you need greed and intense ambition and all these things that in some form ultimately lead to monarchies, ultimately lead to bad things.
It's like they get so intense that a person is so competitive about money that they get to the point where they have way more money than they can use and they're fucking over the rest of the world, but they can't even help themselves.
It's like an ethic.
duncan trussell
There's always an explanation for tyranny.
There's always an explanation like that.
You can almost always tell there's an...
The current explanation is, these people...
Not what you're saying, because what you're saying is smart, but the base version is, these 2% of the wealthy...
Have earned their money and they deserve to keep it.
And everyone else, they're lazy fucks.
That's the idea.
They're just not lucky.
They just didn't put their shoulders to the grindstone.
They didn't push hard enough.
And so that's the idea.
Now, I think the real truth of the matter is that many of these people have inherited their money.
Many of these people, they didn't necessarily earn their money.
And even if they did earn the fucking money, the fact that there are...
People in the world with big, fat, bloated fucking bellies because they're starving to death in Somali and we can't get the resources there because some fundamentalist fucking Islamic organization won't let the shit through so that fucking babies can eat.
The fact that we're totally cool with that while simultaneously every bomb we drop costs $100,000 on top of Libya...
The fact that we're totally cool with that is an indication to me not of a nervous system not catching up, but a state of people not being educated appropriately in ethics.
It seems like a simple thing.
We need to fucking...
School teachers need to start getting paid their doctor's wage.
School teachers need to start getting paid the same amount the celebrities get paid so that it becomes a competitive industry, and only the super smart are the ones who start giving our children, like, the basic information.
joe rogan
Well, you're absolutely right.
And on that platform, you should run for president.
But my point is not attached to the human animal as one of its own.
My point is looking at it objectively.
When I look at it objectively, when I look at the way human beings are so intensely focused on wealth and so intensely focused on privilege and on conquering and taking over things, I really think that it's like a queen bee or like any sort of a natural large leader of an ant colony or whatever the fuck it is.
There's some crazy thing that people need in order to accomplish what we are abstractly aware of trying to accomplish.
And it goes back to this technology thing.
When you have ambition, any kind of ambition, you're going to have competition.
When you have competition, you're always going to have people that take it to the next level.
And some people take it to the next level like Michael Jordan does on the basketball court.
Or you've got guys like William Randolph Hearst who takes it to that next level when he was running basketball.
He's just a fucking dominator.
Fuck you.
I don't give a shit.
How about I make up stories and put them on my newspaper, you fuckhead.
And then I'm going to kill you and I'm going to make up a story and put it on my paper that says you were into kiddie porn, you fuckhead.
I mean, William Randolph Hearst got to some insane point of power.
But I almost wonder if instead of looking at these individual circumstances or individual people that...
Create horrible things and greed and obscenely wealthy people while other people are starving.
Instead of looking at that, I always look at the mechanism itself.
Look at the movement itself.
Which way is the wave going and why?
Why is it going in the most supposedly progressive of all the countries, being America, the most hyper-aggressive about controlling natural resources and about innovation and about weapons?
About weapons and about science.
And today, NASA announced that we're going to try to go to Mars.
They're going to have manned missions to Mars.
A giant fucking thing.
Like the Saturn V rocket on steroids.
They're going to send astronauts to Mars.
And this keeps America.
This is one of the big points of their point.
It keeps America the leader in the space race.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
People are worried that we're losing the space race because we can no longer put people in the space station.
We have to rely on the Soviets.
And the Soviets just crashed one of their shuttles the other day.
So now we're like, did you change the oil?
What are you doing?
We don't even know what they did.
We're hopping on their plane.
unidentified
It's ridiculous that we still have space races.
That's like the Laugh Olympics.
It's like the dumbest thing that we're in these Olympics with other countries.
We've got to go farther, faster, first.
joe rogan
Yeah, but no, because it pushes innovation and it pushes people to really, I mean, whether or not you believe people landed on the moon, I know it sounds retarded, I still have questions.
People go, but I got answers!
You know, there's like recent photographs of the moon landing and everybody sends them to me and they're like, what do you think, man?
What do you think?
And I think, if I was guilty of something, okay, and I sent you a picture that showed that I wasn't guilty of something and it was really fucking blurry and it looked like it was taken from a million miles away in black and white, would you believe me?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Oh, I'm sure that this is a satellite photo.
It's very likely that it is.
I leave open the possibility that it's not.
And people say, that's crazy.
And it probably is.
brian redban
Is that possibility 1%?
unidentified
Or how big of that possibility?
joe rogan
I have no idea.
Then I would know.
This is what I would say.
I would say if it's 99% What was that 1% there for?
What the fuck is it there for?
99% means I really believe it.
I just leave it open.
I don't have a percentage labeled on it.
I think the people in the 60s and the 70s were full of shit.
I think the government was intensely full of shit.
I think the Nixon administration was deceptive as a practice.
Generally, across the board, completely full of shit and without accountability until they got busted in Watergate and the shit that went on in the Vietnam War, how they got into the Vietnam War from the Gulf of Tonkin incident, which is a big, fat fucking lie.
unidentified
Yeah, but do you think the government would have learned by now, like, hey, we're getting at a smarter age.
Hold on.
We're not going to lie.
joe rogan
I don't know.
I don't know.
unidentified
Wait, did you think that?
joe rogan
No, because they still do shit that's fucked up.
Look at the Pamela Smart case.
The girl who got rescued in Iraq.
What the fuck is her name?
I'm not pulling anybody's names out today.
But my point was this girl, Jessica Lynch.
She was in the hospital.
They said there was a gunfight.
She was kidnapped.
They had a rescuer.
They brought her back.
She was an American hero.
Well, it turns out she was not in a gunfight at all.
She was in a fucking hospital.
There was no guns fired.
They went in and got her and they made up a goddamn story.
The Pat Tillman story.
Pat Tillman died because of fucking friendly fire.
Someone made a mistake and he died.
But when they put that story out, they did not say that.
When they put that story out, they said he died in defense of our country.
Meanwhile, Pat Tillman, when he was over there, was a huge...
He went from being a huge supporter of the war to going over there and openly criticizing and saying it was a gigantic clusterfuck of epic proportions.
And his brother still maintains that to this day.
So they lie about shit.
They make shit up.
I don't know whether or not they've made up landing on the moon.
I don't know whether or not they killed Kennedy.
I don't know.
I leave those open.
I leave those open because I think it's very possible.
There's nothing, there's etched in stone shit to me.
Here's something etched in stone.
Etched in stone, there was a man named Kennedy who was shot and killed.
duncan trussell
That's right.
joe rogan
That's etched in stone.
I don't know what the fuck happened to him.
I don't know.
It's fascinating to me, the whole idea of this bullet magically showing up on Governor Connolly's gurney.
They bring him in, oh, I think we found the bullet.
This bullet didn't look like it got shot through anything.
It's ridiculous.
There's more fragments of metal supposedly in their bodies that are missing from this bullet.
You know, attribute that to what you will, but the idea that you can shoot a bullet through fucking bone, and no one's ever been able to recreate that.
They tried that on one of those fucking shows, and the only way they were able to make it look anything even close to that bullet, they had to shoot it through, like, gelatin.
They had to shoot it through, like, fake skin that's supposed to replicate gelatin.
But as soon as you hit a bone, that's a rap song.
That bullet was warped and fucked up.
That's what happens to bullets, man.
It's supposed to be like that.
They fragment inside your body and they create more damage.
They shatter things.
They're lead with a shield on them of another metal, like brass or something like that.
Depending on what you have.
And they hit things.
They fuck up.
They bend up.
That Kennedy bullet didn't go through shit.
They shot that thing into a fucking fish tank.
That thing looked like it never hit anything.
Like it hit a million pillows.
Didn't look like it fucking hit anything hard like a bone and shattered someone's wrist.
I don't buy that for a goddamn second.
And if you do buy that, you're looking for that to be the answer.
You know, and the only reason why they ever even said that, you know, people dispute the positioning of the magic bullet.
The positioning...
Look, you know, Anthony Bourdain had a really good point when he talked about people that get shot.
When he was on our podcast talking about some people get shot and the bullet ricochets inside their head and exits out the back and doesn't even do any damage.
It was totally true.
Crazy things can happen when you're shooting bullets through people.
People have been shot through the head and nothing happens to them.
Literally.
Shot through the fucking head.
They have a hole straight through their head and they live.
And they don't have any functioning, you know, they're allowed to walk around.
They're fine.
They can rehab.
It's amazing.
Some people know.
But every time you shoot a bullet into something, that bullet gets fucked up.
Every time.
Every time.
And that bullet, if you look at that bullet, it's so clear that bullet didn't hit anything.
There's no fucking way it went through two different people.
There's no way.
And the only reason why they even had to say it went through two people is because we had to attribute three bullets to one person because they found a guy who was under the underpass who was hit with a ricochet.
When that guy, when they hit the curb, the ricochet of the granite came up, hit this guy, fucked him up.
He had to go to the hospital.
What happened?
I got hit with a ricochet.
They found the spot on the concrete or the granite.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Whatever it is, the curbstone, where it had been hit by the bullet.
unidentified
Sure.
joe rogan
So they knew he was telling the truth.
Oh, here's a bullet hole.
Okay, this is where the guy got hit.
So they had to...
Now they have three wounds.
Now they have all these shots.
And they don't...
Or I guess two wounds.
And they had to attribute one of them In two different people's bodies to the same bullet.
It's completely unscientific.
Instead of saying, what is the possibility that even though we caught Lee Harvey Oswald, what if there was a guy on the roof above him?
Is that possible?
No, no, no, no, no.
Impossible.
Is it possible?
No, nothing possible.
Let's talk to this guy and find out.
Oh, this fucking mob-collected guy or mob-connected guy ran up to him and shot him in broad daylight in the stomach in front of everybody and police officers?
What?
What happened?
What kind of fucking charade are you running here?
Oh, the guy who killed Kennedy is dead.
Oh, well, that's convenient.
There you go.
Well, let's go back to work in Vietnam, and Lyndon Johnson's going to take care of everybody.
He loves you.
Hey, he's a good old boy, and it's terrible to happen to that boy Kennedy, but you know what?
Sometimes those youngins, those fucking Massachusetts boys, they don't know how to shut the fuck up.
Yeah, they clink whiskey glasses, and they proceed to fuck headless Thai whores.
Come on, man.
Those guys are animals.
Those guys are all savages.
duncan trussell
But the thing Brian said about how maybe now they're not doing that anymore...
joe rogan
It's nonsense.
duncan trussell
It's nonsense, but I think that idea is a prevalent idea, and it's a hilarious idea, because if you look back at every age in history...
joe rogan
Things accelerate.
duncan trussell
You will find that in every age there was an idea people had about something that was okay that a later age found to be completely and absolutely wrong.
Most recently, segregation.
There was a time when I guess our grandparents, they would really go to use the bathroom and they'd be like, oh, there's the white person's bathroom.
And then they would say to whoever was working for them, like if they happened to take their black maid on a shopping trip, they'd be like, oh, there's the colored restroom.
You can go use that.
And that was normal.
They didn't do that with some sense of like, I don't know if I should do this or not.
To them, that was a normal state of existence.
If you go back a little bit before that, there was slavery.
You would go over to your friend's house and your friend would have a fucking dude that he had bought that had to do everything he said because it was his slave.
joe rogan
And he was allowed to beat it.
duncan trussell
Yeah.
He beat it.
He beat a human fucking being.
That was totally normal.
And then if you go back a little bit before that, you would wake up in the morning and your cow's milk would be sour, and you would go and say to your wife, I think there's a witch nearby.
And she'd be like, well, who?
Who do you think it is?
And you meant it.
And you'd find a woman, and you'd fucking...
Incinerator on a goddamn pyre.
That was just before slavery.
Now, somehow people think that right now we've got it all figured out and there's not something equally insane that we all consider to be a total normal facet of reality.
Like, all of a sudden, no.
All of society has totally got it figured out.
No!
We don't have it figured out.
The truth of the matter is, There is a hive mind.
People are leaders, and there are people who understand that in primate neurology, there is a way to tune in to that fucking frequency of attention and convince people that you're the president, the leader, the king, the queen, whatever the fuck it is you want to call it.
You can convince primates, if you spin the fucking spiral in front of them in the right way, you can convince them that you're their leader.
And they'll just believe it.
Oh yeah, that's a leader!
He's our president!
Oh, he's my president now.
Somebody saw that on the news.
joe rogan
People fight with you.
duncan trussell
He's my president.
unidentified
People fight you.
duncan trussell
You've got to respect the president.
He's our president.
joe rogan
He's our president.
duncan trussell
Don't talk about our president that way.
Now, this is clearly a form of conditioning and a form of hypnosis.
And I think that that's like the final thing for us to overcome.
We got over fucking slavery.
joe rogan
But it's a weird thing.
You're not supposed to discuss that.
duncan trussell
No way!
You're not supposed to discuss it.
It's our government!
joe rogan
If you're an intelligent person, if you're an intelligent person and you're a respected person, you go on television and say the president should be respected no more than any other man.
duncan trussell
Get out of my studio!
unidentified
Flag burner!
Flag burner, yeah!
duncan trussell
You know, man, people, if you want to see the conditioning when you watch somebody burn a flag in front of the wrong person, people will freak out.
You want to see the conditioning?
Fucking burn a $100 bill in front of people.
No, not the paper!
joe rogan
Well, there was a story, a news story about a dude who was in front of a Mexican restaurant.
And he was a Vietnam vet.
And he was angry because the Mexican restaurant was flying a Mexican flag above an American flag.
And apparently this dude said that that was not legal.
So he goes there with a fucking knife, opens up this giant knife, and saws the rope on this guy's flag in front of this man's Mexican restaurant.
unidentified
Goodness.
joe rogan
Pulls the flags down and cuts old glory free.
Folds it up properly and takes it with him.
And he's like, you will not disrespect this flag.
And he's like, it clearly states somewhere, I don't know where it is, some old asshole who's dead as fuck wrote down on some piece of paper, the old glory must be on top.
duncan trussell
This is the appropriate way to fold the flag.
joe rogan
America can never be, you know, never be humble.
You can't be like the third flag.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, you know, really cool.
Tibet, you want to be on top?
Be on top, Tibet.
Who wants to be in the middle?
Ireland, you want to be in the middle?
Okay, we'll just be on the bottom.
unidentified
It's cool.
joe rogan
We are America.
duncan trussell
That's what I'm talking about there, Joe.
I'm talking about this game of make-believe that we're being forced to play.
And it seems like the Tea Party represents the people who most want to hold on to this silly game of make-believe.
And it's like, you know, I love...
This country in the sense that I love the geography of the place I'm living in.
I love the cultures here and the people I've met.
And I really love a lot of the ways in our culture that free dialogue can spring up and all the amazing things.
But why are you forcing me to then take that love or a sense of belonging here and put it on a goddamn symbol?
Why are you making me put that on a fucking flag or on whatever the silly thing is that you're turning into an idol?
I don't want to do that anymore.
And as we get smarter, I think, as a species, that kind of stuff is becoming less and less palatable.
And because now when we're engaged in these ceremonies, most of us are thinking like, you know, the Pledge of Allegiance or whatever at a baseball game.
I don't even know they do that at a baseball game.
I'm not saying everyone, but I think there is a percentage of people in the audience who are doing it out of just a sense of like, oh, it's kind of quaint.
I'm going to do it.
This is weird.
But you want me to put my hand on my chest?
So, okay, how does it work?
joe rogan
Well, this is one of the same reasons why a lot of people want to be Christians and tell you they're Christians.
Because it automatically carries with a certain amount of respect.
You know, if you say to me, you know, so where do you stand with politics?
You know, how do you feel?
I'm a fucking patriot.
I'm a patriot, bro.
I fucking believe in this country.
I'm a patriot.
And all of a sudden, that guy is not to be questioned.
You know what I'm saying?
Right.
There's a certain amount of respect that you're going to get from me for being a patriot.
duncan trussell
Well, no, because I believe in the system, and this president was elected, and because this president was elected, then I just have to go with what's happening, and then I trust my government.
Now, this is the silliest fucking place for your mind to get to when you really look back at the fact that this very same government was the same government that enforced segregation.
It was the same government that illegally went to war in Vietnam.
It was the same government that told us that there was weapons of mass destruction in Iraq when there were no weapons of mass destruction.
This very same government that you've pledged your allegiance to again and again and again and again and again and again and again throughout history has shown that it does not do the right thing.
unidentified
It consistently does shitty things.
duncan trussell
Slavery.
Segregation.
joe rogan
War.
unidentified
War.
joe rogan
Right now, war.
unidentified
Bombs.
duncan trussell
Now, it will repair itself from time to time.
And what's really beautiful is the promise of democracy.
The promise of democracy or a truly, I guess, a representative government.
A truly representative government is fucking beautiful.
Jesus Christ, that's like pure evolution.
Right.
joe rogan
A purely representative government of an educated population.
A truly educated, not just educated with books and numbers, or numbers and words, but educated as far as behavior, educated as far as character.
There's too many of us to get that done.
duncan trussell
And there's not enough incentive, unfortunately.
I know that right now the idea is that there's too many of us.
joe rogan
But I think that's what this whole, I'm a patriot, I'm a Christian, this is a reason...
unidentified
No, no, no.
There's a million good things.
joe rogan
There's a million good things, Brian.
You're not paying attention to what I'm saying.
The idea is that being a Christian, saying you're a patriot, saying you're trying to hold some higher ideal that you would really like other people to do as well.
And if they do do it, you're going to treat them better and everyone's going to have more energy together.
So this is like, they're trying.
It's like when people say, I'm a Christian.
I'm a Christian.
I'm a Christian too, even though a lot of them don't do anything Christian.
The first thing they want to do is fucking shoot the enemy.
Jesus has turned the other cheek.
The last thing you want to do is go and fucking say, I'm a Christian.
I'm here to fuck people up.
You can't say that, man.
It's like they're saying it because there is this urge to do that.
duncan trussell
It's fun to imagine Jesus flying the Enola Gay.
Like, imagine...
Fucking beard!
He's got his toga on or whatever the thing is he's wearing, and he's flying that fucking Enola gay to drop a nuclear weapon on a population of children and women and boyfriends and girlfriends and artists.
That Jesus is like, I must do this for my father.
Of course not!
joe rogan
I had to get that out, but what did you mean, Brian?
Like, what were you saying?
unidentified
No, I mean, it's just like you're saying about how bad the government is, how many bad things they've done, you know, in the past.
But everyone never looks at the good shit, you know?
No one's ever looking at all the good shit they do.
They're always focusing on the bad stuff.
joe rogan
I don't think that's necessarily the case.
unidentified
Look at the Grand Canyon.
It's badass.
duncan trussell
Did you ever read Watership Down?
joe rogan
The government didn't make the Grand Canyon, bro.
duncan trussell
Brian, did you?
joe rogan
I hate to fucking bust your bubble.
Hey, will you do me a favor?
I know we're not supposed to play music, but there's a song that we have to play.
We have to play, because I really like this song, and it's super appropriate, and we'll just talk over it.
Okay, we're not selling anything.
duncan trussell
Yeah, what's his song?
joe rogan
It's Aaron Lewis, Country Boy.
You know the dude from Stained?
Okay, well he's reinvented himself as a country music singer.
unidentified
Do you want to do this?
joe rogan
Yes, yes, yes, I want you to.
Because it's important, it's really important, it's really important.
For two reasons.
One, because I honestly like this song.
I like this song a lot.
I really do.
It's a fucking good song.
The guy's got a great voice.
I loved him in that band, Stained.
I think he's a bad motherfucker.
He's got a great voice.
Apparently, it's just so fascinating.
It's a super, super patriotic song.
duncan trussell
Let's hear it.
joe rogan
It's so patriotic.
It's almost like a parody.
Hit it from the beginning.
unidentified
Here we go.
joe rogan
Ready?
It's about being a country boy.
We never play songs anymore, but fuck it, man.
I love this song.
duncan trussell
How do you know?
joe rogan
Dude, listen how good his voice is, man.
Man, I don't like sounding like a homo, but that motherfucker's got a badass voice.
He could tuck me to bed at night with that voice.
unidentified
Listen to this.
And the war is known to change a man.
And the whiskey's known to change a man.
Welcome to VH1. This is a great fucking song, dude.
I rarely drink from the bottle, but I'll smoke a little weed.
duncan trussell
That's what happens at the concert.
joe rogan
He has Don't Tread on Me tattooed on his neck.
unidentified
Intense.
joe rogan
That's intense.
Right across his neck, it says, don't tread on me.
And this song is talking about how he never leaves his house without his 9 or his 45. It's like sort of gangster rap.
unidentified
Let's tread another word for cum.
duncan trussell
Outlaw country.
joe rogan
He sold his soul to the devil in LA. This is talking about when he was in that other band.
unidentified
Winger?
joe rogan
Yeah.
duncan trussell
He's like Spinal Tap.
joe rogan
He's saying the devil hooked him up in L.A. with a record contract.
duncan trussell
Did you ever see Spinal Tap?
joe rogan
What he's doing is he's making up for his time as a rock star.
duncan trussell
No, remember in Spinal Tap?
No, I didn't see Spinal Tap.
There's a great thing where it shows all the pictures of the band.
And they tried every demographic.
They kept changing demographics according to what was popular.
And so he just swapped demographics.
joe rogan
Yeah, you went right to country.
duncan trussell
His publicist was like, hey, listen, I think...
I think the country market...
joe rogan
Well, he's trying to be legit, just like a gangster rapper's trying to be legit.
Because in the video, there's a picture of him at two, holding a gun.
He's two, and he's got a gun in his hand.
I am not bullshitting.
duncan trussell
I believe it.
joe rogan
It says, me, age two.
He's holding a gun.
And there's another picture where he's got a large-mouthed bass.
unidentified
See?
joe rogan
I used to fish.
duncan trussell
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, so it's like all these pictures of him.
duncan trussell
Yeah, he's fitting in.
But all that shit is so manipulative and silly.
And that whole thing, man...
joe rogan
But it gets way better, eh?
unidentified
I grew up on a country in a place you never know her name.
joe rogan
The last few seconds of it, I'll tell you, Brian, exactly where to go because it's so ridiculous.
It's just really interesting.
unidentified
Did you know there's a Miss Hands?
joe rogan
No.
unidentified
And it's way worse than Mystery?
joe rogan
Go to 4 minutes and 14 seconds.
Go to 4 minutes and 14 seconds.
We'll just end this.
Because it's fascinating.
By the way, I'm not dissing this guy at all, and I fucking love this music.
And I love his song, and I love that kind of music.
I like a lot of Toby Keith songs.
I don't have anything wrong with patriotic songs.
At the end of it, listen, this guy does this little speech.
And this is like this old, old dude.
I love my country.
unidentified
I love my guns.
I love my family.
I love the way it is now.
And anybody that tried to change it has to come through me.
That should be all of our attitude.
It's this is America and a country boy is good enough for me, son.
joe rogan
Okay, play that back again because that might be a terrorist message.
Okay, that retarded fucking speech.
Back it up.
Listen to this.
Listen to this.
duncan trussell
Is that a bagpipe?
unidentified
I love my country.
I love my guns.
I love my family.
I love the way it is now.
And anybody that tries to change it has to come through me.
joe rogan
That should be all of our attitudes.
unidentified
This is America.
And a country boy is good enough for me, son.
joe rogan
A country boy is good enough for me.
We are as evolved as I need.
Let's stop right here.
duncan trussell
That's how cancer cells talk.
unidentified
Exactly.
If you can listen to a cancer cell, that's what it would sound like.
joe rogan
It's just so fucking stupid.
It's like, I love my guns.
unidentified
What?
That's you?
joe rogan
I love my country.
I love my guns.
Oh, Jesus, dude.
Just hurry up and die.
Will you fucking hurry up?
unidentified
Will you just die, you old man?
joe rogan
You fucking model T human being.
You dipshit.
duncan trussell
Just die.
joe rogan
I love my family.
I love my guns.
Take those.
Gotta come through me.
Okay, look, I'm not saying I want to take your guns, dude.
I like guns, too.
I love my family, too.
Settle the fuck down.
duncan trussell
Every time in history, man.
unidentified
Jesus Christ.
duncan trussell
Every time in history.
joe rogan
No one's coming through you, bro.
duncan trussell
But every period in history has got those human anchors desperately trying to dig their claws into the earth and keep evolution from happening.
Desperately.
They'll kill for it.
They'll kill for it.
joe rogan
The Inquisition.
duncan trussell
What do you mean?
Wait a minute.
You can't be serious.
Everyone gather around.
Did you hear Galileo?
Did you hear what Galileo just said?
unidentified
Father, I heard he speak of the earth not being the center.
duncan trussell
I love my earth in the center of the universe.
joe rogan
I love my earth.
I love my sticks and bows and arrows.
duncan trussell
I love seers.
joe rogan
I love my sling.
duncan trussell
I love my slave.
joe rogan
I love my catapults.
duncan trussell
I love burning witches.
joe rogan
Anybody trying to take my catapult away, that'll come through me.
duncan trussell
I love my scroll.
I love carving and rock.
joe rogan
I love walking.
I don't need to ride any horses.
I don't need domesticated animals.
That's complicated.
Anybody who wants to domesticate horses gotta come through me.
duncan trussell
I love being a hunter-gatherer.
I love having a lifespan.
joe rogan
I love being a single-cell orgasm.
There's no need to expand.
We're all having a good time down here at the bottom of the ocean floor.
Anybody who wants to change, gotta come through me.
duncan trussell
I love being a carbon molecule.
unidentified
I love existing in pre-Big Bang conditions.
joe rogan
I love my family.
I love my protons.
Anybody wants to change that?
unidentified
As I open up the second bottle of wine.
I grew up on a known dirt road in a town you wouldn't know.
joe rogan
It's a beautiful song, man.
The guy's just singing his fucking ass off.
I'm sorry.
duncan trussell
I'm not denying it.
joe rogan
I'm buying that shit on iTunes right now because I made fun of you, bro.
I love that song.
No bullshit.
I love it.
He's a Massachusetts boy, just like me.
unidentified
When you first talked about the horse humping...
duncan trussell
How many dirt roads are in Massachusetts?
unidentified
You called him Mr. Hands.
Yes.
Was that just because you saw the file name Mr. Hands?
Yes.
joe rogan
Mr. Hands.mpeg.
unidentified
Now, was that already called Mr. Hands?
joe rogan
No, his name, the guy who got fucked to death, was Mr. Hands.
If you don't know what the story we're talking about, we're talking about a real true story about a gentleman in Seattle.
Gentleman?
I believe he was an engineer, but he was a professional.
And he had this crazy fetish for sex with animals and wound up getting killed.
And there's a video of him getting fucked by a horse.
And the video is mrhens.mpeg.
And you can get it at twoguysonehorse.com.
And if you're new to the internet or you don't have any fucked up friends like me, you might not have ever even seen this.
Don't.
You're right.
duncan trussell
Don't do it.
It's not worth it.
Why are you going to do that to yourself?
joe rogan
It's so crazy to watch a guy get fucked by a horse.
duncan trussell
No.
unidentified
They were talking about Mr. Hands today.
brian redban
I worked on this horror movie, this low-budget horror movie, and they were all talking about Mr. Hands, but they were all calling it Mr. Hands.mpeg or whatever.
joe rogan
Right.
unidentified
And then they were saying that there's a Mrs. Hands.
Really?
And they were all like, oh yeah, Mrs. Hands is even worse.
Oh my god, how could it be worse?
And they just described it where it was the woman's face was off the side of the thing, and the horse was just fucking coming, and suddenly it pulls out, and just floppy dick and cum and everything, and the girl at one point is going...
Oh, yeah!
You know, like it changes.
joe rogan
Oh, you know what that is?
That's old.
That's not actually Mrs. Hands.
unidentified
So they just called it, it's a marketing gig?
joe rogan
Yeah, there was a dude named Billy Connolly, and I fucking washed it over his house while someone stood guard over the front door.
We were in the basement, and what...
One of us had to stand guard by the front door.
We were in the basement.
We had to go up the stairs and stand by the door.
And if you hear my fucking mom, you better say something.
This is what Billy said.
Because apparently maybe his mom either caught him with it or didn't know he had it.
But there was some issue.
VHS? It was called Barnyard Betty.
Yes, VHS. And you could barely see what the fuck was going on.
It was really shitty quality, but that's one of the scenes.
The horse shoots a load all over her and she makes these moans like, oh yeah.
And it's...
So disturbing.
It was almost like I got molested that day.
Because the day is literally broken up in my memory with these jolting standout memories.
You know how you scroll through your icons if you use a Mac?
And you scroll through, and then they get larger when your cursor goes over the thing.
That's what those memories are.
It's like the whole day is like a normal day.
No memory of the day at all.
All of a sudden, girl got fucked by a horse in Billy Connolly's basement.
duncan trussell
I gotta tell you something, man.
I don't think there is a comparison between a girl getting horse cum blasted all over and a guy getting impaled to death on the penis of a horse.
Those are two different things, man.
joe rogan
Well, women have died from getting fucked by horses, too.
unidentified
Many people have gotten...
joe rogan
Who was that famous woman who was some...
God damn, who the hell was she?
duncan trussell
Wasn't there a queen?
joe rogan
Yeah, a queen.
My memory sucks there.
I worked all day today in the sun doing something that I god damn wish I could tell you folks about.
I can't tell you a damn word, but oh my god.
I can't wait to talk about this once it actually happens.
unidentified
I can tell you what happened I did today.
joe rogan
I'm sure it's going to be just as awesome.
unidentified
This girl named Sandra Dee was an actress from the movie.
joe rogan
Look at me, I'm Sandra Dee.
unidentified
She played like this monster, like a Carrie monster.
joe rogan
Oh, that's her real name?
Her real name is Sandra Dee?
You know, that's like a famous name of a person in Greece.
unidentified
She's an adult actress slash actress.
joe rogan
Oh, she's one of those.
unidentified
So I think it might not be her real name.
But she's the bigger one.
joe rogan
She's an adult actress.
unidentified
She's got over 100,000 Twitter friends.
joe rogan
Over 100,000 Twitter friends.
unidentified
She's the bigger one.
joe rogan
Let me check her out.
unidentified
And she has a British accent.
Fucking hot as balls.
joe rogan
What is her Twitter address?
unidentified
Sandra D. Just Sandra D with a D or D-E-E? D-E-E. So anyways, this movie, she kills me in it.
Spoiler alert.
But she's like sitting right over me at one point and I die from her period blood.
joe rogan
First of all, you just fucked up some poor girl named Sandra D who only has 17 followers.
unidentified
Poor Sandra D sitting in front of her ATF. What's happening?
joe rogan
Living in northern Michigan is going to get bombed on by the savages that listen to this podcast.
unidentified
What is it?
joe rogan
It's Sandra Deezer, some regular girl named Sandy Butler.
Hi, Sandy.
duncan trussell
Sorry.
joe rogan
Sorry to bother you.
I feel like we accidentally called you at home.
I see your asshole in there.
Please be nice to her, folks.
Please.
unidentified
Please be nice.
joe rogan
She seems like a nice girl with a love of ATVs.
There's a photo of her with an ATV here.
And she's smiling like, really?
You want me to take a picture right here?
unidentified
Okay.
duncan trussell
It's like somebody randomly getting attacked by killer bees.
It's somebody just walking through a party.
unidentified
This poor girl.
joe rogan
Her Twitter just got mobbed.
Her Twitter just got assaulted by savages.
Do you know how fucking trippy it's going to be for her to open up her Twitter tomorrow morning and look at 5,000 responses out of nowhere?
Like, what?
unidentified
Huh?
Yeah, Sophie D. I'm sorry, it's Sophie D. Oh, you fuckhead.
S-O-P-H-I-E-D-E. I posted a bunch of photos of me today.
joe rogan
Sandy, I feel so bad.
unidentified
On my Twitter.
joe rogan
If someone's mean to you, I'm going to follow you, Sandy.
If someone's mean to you, DM me and I'll correct everything.
I'm following you now, Sandy.
unidentified
So anyway, there's one point where she's like, she has one foot on each side of me, completely naked, trenched in blood.
joe rogan
Sophie D. You're in a movie with this chick?
unidentified
Yeah.
S-O-P-H-I-E-D-E. Is this like one of those...
It's like...
Evil Dead movie, like really low-budget horror movie, Ridiculous.
Oh, really low.
But really cool crazy blood effects.
Oh, this bitch is dirty.
joe rogan
Damn, son.
unidentified
Yeah, it's just a fun little short film.
joe rogan
So what happened?
You were hanging out with this dirty hot chick.
This girl looks so dirty, too.
Oh, my Lord, this bitch.
There's pictures of her in bikinis.
Jesus fucking Christ.
unidentified
She had the biggest tits I've ever fucking seen.
joe rogan
Duncan Trussell, Duncan Trussell.
Duncan Trussell, look at this picture.
I don't usually do this because this is a podcast and you folks at home can't see this, but we're kind of drunk right now.
unidentified
Wow!
joe rogan
It's ridiculous.
Imagine the incredible pull that it has.
Those tits look real.
Are they real?
unidentified
I thought they looked real, too.
joe rogan
I think they are real.
unidentified
They're huge.
And look, if you look at the photos...
joe rogan
No, they can't be real.
You know what I think?
I think she's one of those crazy bitches that had big, real tits and then got them bigger.
unidentified
Wait, look at...
They're naked on my Twitter.
Look at...
Backslash Redband.
joe rogan
Oh, I see what you did, you fuck.
unidentified
Oh, that's cute.
Somebody's gotta do it.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's ridiculous.
Do you have naked pictures of her on your Twitter?
You don't even, do you?
unidentified
Yeah, I do.
joe rogan
I hope the hackers fucking go after you right now.
duncan trussell
Why do you unleash the hackers on everyone?
unidentified
What the fuck?
joe rogan
I don't see no pictures of this bitch, bro.
Yeah, keep looking.
Keep looking.
Yeah, you fucking asshole.
He just fucking tricked me, man.
unidentified
There's tons of photos on there.
joe rogan
Speaking of photos, I heard that Little Hobo came back.
duncan trussell
Yeah, Little Hobo's back, but he's smaller.
I ordered the wrong goddamn size.
unidentified
I think it's funnier because he's super small.
joe rogan
He just fucked up the story, dude!
How big is he?
How big is Little Hobo?
duncan trussell
I don't know.
He's like this big now.
joe rogan
That's even better.
That might be better.
First of all, it's easier to carry him.
And second of all, it's even creepier that a tiny little doll is going to kill you.
duncan trussell
I want to do it in New Orleans, but I don't think it'll work.
joe rogan
The fuck is not going to work.
You must do it.
duncan trussell
It's too small.
It's like a tiny little doll.
joe rogan
Oh, that's the picture?
duncan trussell
That's pretty funny.
unidentified
And the whole time I'm laying there while she's up at me, I'm just looking up her pussy in her butthole.
joe rogan
How high is she?
unidentified
Fucking amazing.
Her eyes look like scary monsters.
They're just so blue.
They're the most beautiful eyes I've ever seen.
joe rogan
Keep talking.
I'm saying.
unidentified
But she's married to a black wizard.
What?
joe rogan
A black what?
unidentified
No, I'm just kidding.
joe rogan
Is she married?
unidentified
She's married to another porn star.
joe rogan
Oh, how's that work?
Are they allowed to only bang people on camera?
We had Dana DeArmond on once, who's a very cool chick, but she was talking about a relationship she was in once, where she had a relationship with a porn star, but they were only allowed to bang other people in movies.
And she caught them banging other people outside of the movies, and she was mad.
duncan trussell
How dare you!
joe rogan
I'd be like, what do you do today?
Bitch, I'm working.
I'd be working all day.
If that was like a total loophole in marriages, every man would be a porn star.
We'd all be like, I gotta, listen, honey, times are tough, okay?
It's a bad economy.
I'm gonna pick up a little money on the side.
Fucking chicks on film.
duncan trussell
Yeah, man, it's so embarrassing.
I mean, that's one of the other things about being human.
It's like, you know, you're just trapped in these fucking awful primate monogamy patterns and it's just like embarrassing.
You get jealous or weird and all that shit's embarrassing.
It's like the whole situation, like we're still stuck in this really primitive way of living and we can't get out of it.
joe rogan
Well, it's what it is, is we're becoming aware that it's silly.
Whereas for the majority of existence, it was just accepted, and it wasn't what it was, and it was what made you feel good.
What makes you feel good?
To conquer your enemy.
You know, it's like Conan, what is best in life?
duncan trussell
What is that?
unidentified
To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and they hear the laminations of the women.
duncan trussell
Yeah, that's so awesome.
joe rogan
And he had this, you know, I mean, but that's what it was, man.
In fucking ancient Sumeria, or Sumeria, whatever the fuck he was from, that's what it was about, right?
You know, that's whatever, supposed, you know, it's a fake world, but we're thinking he lived 6,000 years ago, 7,000 years ago.
That's what people did.
You know, there wasn't a lot going on.
duncan trussell
I like the first two, but the third, it's like, I don't want to hear the lamentations.
I don't mind crushing my...
joe rogan
You don't want to hear them go, oh!
duncan trussell
That's not lamentation!
joe rogan
Laminations?
duncan trussell
Lamentation is screaming because you're fucking getting raped by the Mongols.
joe rogan
How do you say lamentations?
Because he says it with a...
It's a word that I've never used, ever.
duncan trussell
Yeah, it's moaning, screaming.
joe rogan
If you use this word, by the way, you're a douchebag.
duncan trussell
Lamentations.
joe rogan
If you use that word...
duncan trussell
You can never use that word.
You should hear my wife laminating.
No, is it lamentating?
joe rogan
Oh, there's some weird thing about the Jewish prophet Jeremiah.
Are you sure it's the same thing?
duncan trussell
Pretty sure.
joe rogan
Definition.
duncan trussell
I think it's a...
Isn't it like a verse or a book of the Bible?
Lamentations.
joe rogan
Hmm, the act of lamenting?
duncan trussell
That's the worst definition I've ever heard.
joe rogan
Expression of sorrow.
Okay, yeah.
A cry of sorrow or grief.
Lamentations.
So that's what it is.
The women are crying.
duncan trussell
Yeah.
joe rogan
Until you start...
duncan trussell
Because they're getting raped.
joe rogan
No, no, the men are getting killed.
duncan trussell
No.
joe rogan
To crush your enemy.
duncan trussell
No, no, no, no, no.
What that was based on was the Mongols.
And the Mongols would fucking ride in and it was just...
You would sack a village and then you would rape the women.
joe rogan
Are you saying that Conan was based on the Mongols?
duncan trussell
I think so.
I think they drew a lot from it.
joe rogan
Who's they, bro?
It's Robert E. Howard.
duncan trussell
Do you even know about the books?
Yeah, I know he committed suicide, and I used to have the fucking poem he wrote when he got suicide.
I used to have it memorized, but I can't remember it now.
joe rogan
Did you ever read any of the old conans?
duncan trussell
Fuck yeah, dude.
unidentified
Fuck yeah.
joe rogan
These things got me through a depressing high school.
duncan trussell
Yeah, I love Tony.
joe rogan
That's what I read.
duncan trussell
I'm so bummed that apparently the new movie sucks because I was really looking forward to it.
I really wanted to see it.
I love those two.
joe rogan
Well, I met the guy, too.
He came to the UFC once.
I was kind of glad that I didn't have to interview him because he was kind of going crazy.
I don't know how I would have reacted to it.
Not going crazy in the bathroom, but it was all psyched because Chris Lee even won.
He was all pumped up and everything.
You know, but Goldberg is like, you know, Mr. Professional.
Well, all right, tell us about this movie, Conan.
You know, Goldberg is like, he's like a super professional play-by-play broadcaster guy.
So he can interview somebody if he knew nothing about them.
You know, when I interview somebody, if I know nothing about them, I feel weird.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
But this guy is the perfect Conan.
You know, people are giving him shit because they don't like the fact that he's pretty.
People don't like a fucking six-foot-four beautiful.
He's a beautiful man with a sculpted body.
duncan trussell
He's in Game of Thrones, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
duncan trussell
Dude, he's great in fucking Game of Thrones.
joe rogan
Oh, he would have been good in this.
This movie's a piece of shit.
He's a good Conan.
duncan trussell
He's Drogo in Game of Thrones.
joe rogan
There's scenes where he's fighting as Conan that are bad fucking ass.
He's fighting with these things that are made out of sand, these sand monsters.
And the way he moves around, I'm like, you nailed it!
That's Robert E. Howard's Conan!
That's it!
This guy just needs, like, he needs, first of all, you need a singular vision.
You need a guy who's a brilliant writer who's a Robert B. Howard fan.
Go for it.
Create the whole thing.
But there's scenes where it's just, like, so preposterous.
They were so dumb.
The final scene with him and his antagonist is, like, one of the dumbest scenes in any action movie ever.
It's almost like they slapped it together in ten minutes and filmed it with an iPhone.
It's so stupid.
duncan trussell
Why do they do that?
Why do they do that?
joe rogan
Because there's a bunch of people that want to get their fucking greedy little paws on things.
There's a bunch of different producers, a bunch of different executives, a bunch of different people, and they all have their own vision of how it should work.
This guy, Jason Momoa, is an unknown actor, fairly unknown at least, to carry such a gigantic franchise.
It's a $90 million fucking investment for the studio.
And all these assholes want to stick their dirty fingers in it.
I've seen it, man.
I watched it in a fucking movie.
duncan trussell
It's like Contagion.
joe rogan
There was a movie I did called Frank McCluskey CI. I've talked about it once before.
I did this movie and I watched this kid who was a really funny kid.
I should say his name.
It's Dave something.
Frank McCluskey CI. Let me look it up just to give this kid props.
He was a fucking really funny comedian, man.
He's like, I was watching him, Dave Sheridan.
I was watching him, like, his ad-libs.
I was watching the way he performed.
He was, like, really over the top, almost Jim Carrey in Ace Ventura-ish.
And there was a guy who was on the set who was an executive.
And I don't know what production company filmed it.
I was barely paying attention to any of that shit back then.
But this guy had a Rolex on and a super expensive suit with suspenders and cufflinks.
I mean, this was a fucking, this was a baller.
This was some guy who had made a bunch of big, big movies already and made a ton of money and was dressing on this movie set in a way that I'd really never seen anybody dress in a movie set.
To me, it was ridiculous.
And he was wearing this ridiculous, it was so obvious he had a ton of money.
unidentified
And he was giving this kid line readings.
joe rogan
This kid was doing his scene and the kid would do the scene and he would go, okay, okay, okay.
Instead of that, how about this?
How about you walk in, you step one foot on the floor, you throw your legs up and he made it himself.
He did his own little interpretation of what he thought would be awesome in the scene.
And I was like, God damn, here his ego wanna mock some completely uncreative fuckhead wearing cufflinks is telling this really funny kid what to do.
And I was watching it erode right before my eyes.
I was watching what was like a really funny script and a really zany, kind of silly actor.
I was like, oh, that's kind of fun.
I watched them poison it.
I watched them stick their dirty fingers in it.
And that's what Conan smelled like.
Conan smelled like.
Like, one guy thought we could do it right, and we could recreate Robert E. Howard's version of Conan, and we could have, you know, fucking monsters and sorcery and all kinds of crazy shit that he fights against.
We could do this.
This is going to be fucking wild.
And the studio's like, we're in.
We got Jason Momoa from the Game of Thrones.
Look at him.
He's six foot five.
He's a fucking male model.
He's built like Hercules.
This guy's Conan.
He is Conan.
I want you to meet him.
I am Conan.
He's fucking Conan!
They get all fired up, they do lines, and then they start rewriting the script.
The executives say, these guys don't know fucking movies like I know fucking movies!
I produce 25 fucking movies!
And they start getting their dirty little stinky jizz-covered paws all over that script, and they start fucking dropping coke rocks out of their fucking nose on keywords.
They blow it!
duncan trussell
They blow it, though, fucks!
So when people...
joe rogan
Or not.
duncan trussell
To get back to the idea we were talking about...
joe rogan
Could have been a totally different scenario, I'll just...
This is just for entertainment purposes, folks.
Please don't show me.
duncan trussell
The thing we were talking about at the beginning, when people are used to free entertainment, they want it to stay free.
And a lot of people, when they watch NBC or ABC or CBS or any of these shows, they think they're getting free entertainment.
But they're not getting free entertainment.
They're paying with their attention on the advertisements, but more than that, they're paying in the form of getting diluted entertainment.
They're getting shit that's got...
that's that thing that you just described every show on a network has had almost every show has had that exact same thing applied to it in so many different ways because the executives want to sell antidepressants or they want to sell chevrolet's or whatever the fuck they're advertising on the show so and have you ever had this experience personally Where shit got diluted?
My one experience with a show that didn't get picked up by Comedy Central, weirdly, because I was prepared for this, I was like, they're going to, they're going to, Comedy Central will ruin my vision!
And the first round of notes that came back was awesome!
It was great notes, really smart, it was like, it made, the notes made sense, there wasn't any kind of weird, like, oh yes, wait, no, no, no, I did have it happen.
I did have it happen when I made some stuff for Fuel TV for this show called Stupid Face.
joe rogan
I love the name of that show.
duncan trussell
That's where we made a galaxy cabin, log cabin, and space.
joe rogan
Oh, the thing with Joey Diaz living in someone's neck?
Explain that, please.
Explain how ridiculous it is.
What was Joey Diaz doing?
He played a fisherman.
duncan trussell
Well, the story was about...
I played a mountain man.
And my friend Brian Jarvis played a space captain and something had happened where he'd gotten sucked into a black hole and a flood had sucked my cabin into a black hole at the same time and now we fly through space in this cabin and we're just idiots and like, it's just the stupidest...
I wish we'd had a bigger budget, though, man, because it's such a funny idea.
joe rogan
It's so stupid.
I wish they gave us more money.
unidentified
I know!
duncan trussell
I know!
Because we had no budget for the thing.
We had, like, a green screen.
So Joey Diaz's episode was, we're, like, in the cabin, and my grandfather comes, like, knocks on the door of the cabin in space, and I'm like...
Granddaddy, I thought you were dead!
And he's like, he wants the space commander's ring.
He's like, let me see your friend's ring there.
And my friend's like, I'm not sure this is your grandfather, Red.
And then, basically, it was an alien living in the neck of my dead granddaddy.
joe rogan
An alien living in the neck of your dead grandfather.
duncan trussell
And that was Joey Diaz.
And he was called the fisherman, and he was in a rain slicker.
unidentified
It was too small for him, remember?
duncan trussell
Yeah, it was too small, and he was floating on a canoe.
Joey Diaz nailed it, too.
joe rogan
If you ever had children, and you and your wife were getting divorced, she would bring that fucking video to a court and say, this is the kind of shit I gotta deal with.
duncan trussell
UN. You know, that's another thing, to fight for the kids.
No, you win!
You get the kids!
You can keep them!
joe rogan
Oh, well, you don't want it, man.
Once you become attached to the kids, if your wife is crazy, it becomes a real issue with people.
Or if you feel like your wife is going to lie and turn your kids on you.
That's what a lot of men think.
duncan trussell
A lot of men are worried about it.
joe rogan
Listen, man, when someone fucking hates you and they talk shit about you all day, that's a terrible thing.
If you go over your mom's house, your mom is just constantly talking shit about your dad.
You go over your dad's house, your dad's constantly talking shit about your mom.
It's like, Jesus Christ, how the fuck am I ever going to have a normal relationship?
I'm five, you dumb cunts.
You fuckheads don't even know how to get along civilly outside of your fuck time.
You stop fucking and now you hate each other.
You have kids, you don't want to be together.
Grow the fuck up.
You got a kid, dummy.
duncan trussell
Yeah, well, you know, man, the thing about that shit, man, is that, well, the thing I'm realizing is there's a fucking shitty network executive in everyone's life, or most people's lives.
It's like, that shit doesn't just stop at the networks.
joe rogan
Way worse than that, dude.
Most people have bosses.
Bosses are way, way, way, way, way worse than shitty network executives.
Because even if you've got a shitty network executive, you're on fucking TV, dude.
You've got a television show, you're doing something wild and crazy that very few people ever get to do.
I've dealt with network executives.
When we did the man show, we got fucked.
Doug and I both got fucked.
It was a disaster.
And I watched other people get fucked when I was doing news radio.
I watched the influence.
I've seen things that could have been really good get fucked with and become bad.
Or when people don't believe in things because the ratings are not good, all of a sudden they want to bring in people.
They want to bring in men and bring in women and hot chicks.
We're going to mix this up.
And the network has all their nutty fucking ideas on how to tune things up and make them more exciting.
It's gross.
It's annoying as fuck, man.
What they're supposed to do is promote the shit out of the show.
And if it's not good, if it doesn't get good ratings, just cancel that piece of shit.
duncan trussell
Don't smell it!
joe rogan
What you don't want to do is get a bunch of network executives who generally are uncreative people, influencing creative people.
The creative people, either they do it or they don't do it.
Either it works or it doesn't work.
That's what I think.
But when executives start digging in, very few know what they're doing.
Very few know creatively.
duncan trussell
Yeah, it's like the time when we were doing Stupid Face, the guy, here's the weird thing, the executive, like there are two guys who are these skateboarders named Ted and Laban who are the main producers and they're awesome, just crazy awesome brilliant guys.
Then above them was this guy that they had to pass everything through.
You know, this was good, but it would be better if we could make it more laughy.
joe rogan
Whoa.
duncan trussell
You know what I mean?
Like, kind of ambiguous notes.
We're like, well, how do I make something laughy?
Or more like, you know what I mean?
There's like, do you mean fun?
What are your specific problems with it?
But that was the one experience I had with that.
But I have obviously heard shitloads of people having these problems.
It's kind of like, remember when you were in reading class, when you were learning to read as a kid, and you'd sit in a circle and you'd read?
And there was always that kid who slowed the whole thing down.
It would get to that one kid who's like, there is...
And you knew how to read.
You could read pretty fast, but the whole fucking thing, lunch, was being fucking pushed back because of this one thing.
Well, in the same way, those people insert themselves into power positions, right?
And they'll put themselves into creative power positions.
They're everywhere.
They've infected everything, but now they have power.
joe rogan
Let me tell you something.
That's an unrealistic characterization because it's very fucking difficult to become a network executive.
Most of them are very intelligent.
duncan trussell
They're not shitty readers.
No, I don't mean they can't read.
I mean, they're like that for creativity.
I'm saying their skill level for creativity is the same as the kid who can't read.
unidentified
I thought you were talking about those people.
duncan trussell
No, hopefully those people learn to read.
joe rogan
I think it's an ego thing entirely.
I think they become successful, and successful people think they're good at everything.
That's why people who are successful at one thing don't like learning other things.
One of the biggest problems in mixed martial arts fighters is people who have a specialty.
And don't want to learn another specialty.
They become very, very one-dimensional.
There's a lot of fighters like that where they're really good kickboxers and they never learn how to wrestle or do jiu-jitsu.
duncan trussell
Isn't that good?
Is there something good about that?
joe rogan
No, it's terrible.
It's terrible for them.
And the problem is they're not willing to be a novice.
They're so good at that one thing that that's the thing they want to train all the time because they're so good at it.
duncan trussell
But whenever you see...
Someone was just showing me this website for this actress.
And it's her resume.
And it's like, director, actor, producer, writer.
There was like seven things that she said she was.
And it was like, oh God, give me a fucking break.
And then like the...
She had quotes, you know, like references.
joe rogan
Intuitive healer.
duncan trussell
That shit, yeah.
unidentified
Spiritual guide.
duncan trussell
And some people do it.
Some people do it.
Some people will have nine things going at once.
But there's something I respect in people who are just focused on this one thing.
They're a writer.
That's what they do.
They just write.
I think that's cool.
joe rogan
Well, being a comic, I do a lot of other shit besides comedy.
I do the UFC and do other things.
So what I've managed to do is be a professional me.
I'm me, professionally.
And so I put me in certain situations.
I put me in a situation where There's some fights going on, I have to explain what's going on In a way that people are going to think it's entertaining And ingest that And then there's other me where I'm going on a stage In front of a bunch of people And I'm going to say things in a certain way That's going to make them laugh Or me and I'm talking on the internet On a podcast Or me and I'm Getting people to do something fucked up On Fear Factor I'm a professional me What's that?
unidentified
I wish you could talk about that thing.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, I wish I could too, but I cannot, sir.
unidentified
He has photos of something he can't talk about on his phone.
joe rogan
We'll be able to talk about it eventually.
unidentified
It's the most amazing thing I've ever seen.
joe rogan
It's insane.
duncan trussell
Oh, it's terrible.
joe rogan
It's terrible.
It's amazing.
It's amazing the difference between 2002 Fear Factor and 2011 Fear Factor.
unidentified
It's like they mixed internet in with it.
joe rogan
Yes, that's exactly what happened.
The internet, no question about it, has changed our line in the sand.
duncan trussell
No, it reminds me of when rap turned into gangster rap.
Remember that transition?
joe rogan
This is way crazier than that, dude.
I mean, a hip hop, a hibbit to the hibbity hip hop to, you know, like some NWA or something like that.
It's Trinidad Compton!
duncan trussell
It's terrible.
Yeah, exactly.
It's terrible.
joe rogan
It is.
unidentified
I gagged.
joe rogan
I guess so.
duncan trussell
By the way, when you were just talking about it as I was drinking the coconut water, I gagged.
joe rogan
I'm immune.
I was right there.
Not only was I right there, I was right there while there was people vomiting and nothing.
I'm immune to vomit.
It's crazy, man.
My little baby threw up in the bed the other night.
It's sad.
She's okay.
Sometimes kids that cough while they have food in their mouth and you just throw up.
duncan trussell
Sure, you have to throw up all the food.
joe rogan
Yeah, but cats are gross, dude.
unidentified
Why do they throw up so much?
joe rogan
Because they lick their hair, man.
duncan trussell
And they eat turds.
joe rogan
They lick their own hair.
That's one reason.
They eat their own hair and they have to throw up those hair balls.
Sometimes they get food in.
She throws up three times a week.
duncan trussell
Three, four times a week.
They eat turds.
joe rogan
My female.
unidentified
I'm not alone.
joe rogan
My male doesn't throw up.
unidentified
Exactly.
joe rogan
Same here.
unidentified
100%.
joe rogan
And you know what else I've done?
I've started bringing them to the groomer, which is great for them because it's hot as fuck out here in California.
And so I don't let them out.
I do let them out in the courtyard sometimes.
But outdoor cats, you know, I believe that cats should be free.
And I've had outdoor cats in my life.
And I believe that's the best way for cats.
But I'm terrified of that fucking toxoplasma shit.
You know, you can say that that's ridiculous.
But if you read about it, I might have it.
unidentified
I might.
joe rogan
You gotta talk in your microphone, homeboy.
You gotta talk in your microphone.
unidentified
I'm 100% serious that I will take a test.
We should all take a test.
joe rogan
You have to put your headphones on.
You think you have it?
unidentified
No, I don't think I have it, but I think we definitely need to take a test.
I think you're right.
joe rogan
We should do it on the show.
Yeah, you're right.
I think Joey Diaz has it.
By the way, you can have it and be a healthy person.
It just affects your judgment, apparently, or has a effect.
Look, if you're slightly cranky, that also affects your judgment.
There's a lot of things that affect your judgment.
If you haven't gotten enough sleep, if you're in a bad relationship, there's things that affect your judgment.
duncan trussell
I know I've got it.
I fucking changed so many bags of cat litter when I was a kid, just breathing in that shit.
joe rogan
Well, that is probably not to worry.
I worry because I've had feral cats.
I had a wild cat.
duncan trussell
Oh, I did too.
I captured six kittens, brought them back to my apartment.
unidentified
Oh, we both have.
duncan trussell
Feral kittens.
I'm festering.
unidentified
Did you carry them around by their neck, by your mouth?
duncan trussell
I caught them in a box.
I caught them in a box at a construction site, and they were assholes, man.
I wish I'd never done it.
joe rogan
Well, they're scared of people, but they will bond to one person and really, really be attached to them.
My cat was super attached to me, but terrified of everybody else, man.
duncan trussell
I was too young to have cats.
joe rogan
What?
unidentified
Why?
joe rogan
Why?
duncan trussell
Because I was an idiot.
You've got to have a lot of responsibility after pets.
unidentified
No, you don't.
Cats are like the easiest thing.
It's easier than a fucking hamster.
duncan trussell
People don't understand.
joe rogan
Well, it's more responsibility than a plant.
duncan trussell
Yeah.
And also, depending on your conditioning, some people raise other people to think that cats are like one step above a steak.
A lot of people don't have animal empathy, so they're really shitty with their animals.
unidentified
That's horrible.
duncan trussell
Like when you drive by someone's porch and they've got a dog on like a tiny little chain and they think that's normal.
People think that's normal.
Or people only like walk their dogs for, or dogs who don't have a backyard, people only walk their dogs for like five minutes a day.
Like you can't do that.
You have to, a dog, you have to walk your dog like 45 minutes a day.
unidentified
Never walk my dog, ever.
duncan trussell
You should.
unidentified
He hates walking.
joe rogan
Well, you mean you should if you don't have a big yard, or you just should, no matter what?
duncan trussell
I mean, for what it's worth, that's what the dog whisperer said.
He said dogs need like a 45 minute...
unidentified
Not all dogs.
duncan trussell
I don't remember.
unidentified
Dog whisperer.
duncan trussell
My dog loves it!
That's the point.
My dog loves a good long walk.
unidentified
Of course they do.
duncan trussell
It's like, clearly, like, who wants to be cooped up in a fucking house all day?
unidentified
My dog.
joe rogan
That's totally true.
I have one solution with my dogs.
I have a giant yard.
I have a yard for my dogs only that's a full acre, wooded.
It's all pine trees.
All day, they're just fucking chasing squirrels and having a party up there.
duncan trussell
Yeah, that's fine.
joe rogan
Yeah, but I bought this place specifically because it had this big lot next to it, and I knew that I'd keep my dogs in.
duncan trussell
Yeah.
joe rogan
I feel like if you have dogs, man, you have a responsibility to give those dogs a fun environment.
Totally.
My dogs are happy as fuck.
You come near my dogs, they're wagging their tail and shit.
They're never freaking out that they're stuck in this yard.
Their yard's huge.
It's a full acre.
duncan trussell
Yeah.
Yeah, I think I've basically transformed my dog into a monkey.
My dog's turned into something more than a dog.
unidentified
It's amazing.
duncan trussell
I treat my dog like a person, and I feel like my dog understands that.
I think that dogs can become these amazing creatures if you give them enough love.
But people are dumb and they don't get that.
And so they like, give them some dry food and water and let them lay on the couch all fucking day.
It says it doesn't want to do that.
They want walks, man.
If your dog doesn't...
joe rogan
Well, they want attention.
duncan trussell
They want attention.
joe rogan
And they want stimulation, too.
duncan trussell
And they want to be outside.
Yes.
They need the outside.
They need the air.
They need the...
Squirrels to bark at.
joe rogan
My dogs really loved it when we lived in Colorado.
Because when we lived in Colorado, they were just roam free.
I was on 148 acres in the mountains.
So I didn't have a fence.
I just let them outside.
What I did was, we were there every day for weeks, and we let them know, this is where everybody lives.
Okay, this is where we live now.
And they figured it out really quick.
And I just did it totally natural style.
I just walked them with me.
I took them with me on walks.
We scouted our perimeter.
They got ahead of me sometimes.
But when they got ahead of me, they always went right back to the house if we lost them.
It was pretty interesting.
Until the dog got eaten by the mountain lion, of course.
Cheers.
If you play the Joe Rogan drinking game, you have to drink when I bring up the traumatic story of my poor little nonny face.
duncan trussell
Oh, that's so sad!
joe rogan
It's my little buddy.
It's a sad story.
Did you hear about this fucking shit about lifelike cells made of metal that they've figured out a way and they're theorizing now that there might be living things out there in the universe that evolve from metal?
duncan trussell
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like fucking Terminator type shit.
duncan trussell
I saw that.
Yeah, of course.
joe rogan
What the fuck, man?
duncan trussell
That's the same thing.
People thinking that human life has to be carbon-based.
Isn't that the same thing as thinking that Earth is in the center of the fucking universe?
It's the same silly idea.
joe rogan
The scientist said, listen to the statement, I am 100% positive that we can get evolution to work outside organic biology.
How fucking scary is that?
duncan trussell
Yeah, totally.
unidentified
That's what the article says.
It's probably like that monkey boy from the old Sun TV or the National Enquirer, the screaming monkey boy.
It says monkey boy.
joe rogan
Oh, it says Mr. Scientist fellow.
He's from, his name is Lee Cronin.
unidentified
So what do you have to be a scientist?
Do you have to go to school or can you just research things and call yourself a scientist?
joe rogan
That's an interesting point.
That's a great question.
I think you have to have some sort of a degree to be taken seriously.
unidentified
Can your mom write you the degree and say it's from her college in her backyard?
joe rogan
No, you silly goose.
This guy's from the University of Glasgow.
He's from Scotland.
And his building blocks are largely, oh Jesus, say this word, polyoxometalitis.
Polyoxometallites?
duncan trussell
Oh, you mean polyoxometallites.
joe rogan
Oh, yes.
I mean polyoxometallites.
Yes, that's it.
Made of a range of metal atoms, mostly tungsten, linked to oxygen and phosphorus.
By simply mixing them in a solution, he can get them to self-assemble into cell-like spheres.
unidentified
Whoa.
duncan trussell
That's cool.
joe rogan
Could you imagine if we fucking showed up on some planet somewhere and they really were like Maximus Prime?
They were like the Transformers.
The Transformers were real, man.
This should have released this.
If they released this just six months or six weeks, rather, before the Transformers movie came out and they could have this information along with their teasers, it could be a more exciting movie for me.
Because I'd be like, maybe it's not so preposterous that these big stupid fucking cars become people-saving robots.
Like, they give a fucking flying shit about people.
duncan trussell
Dude, what about the sun?
I mean, maybe the sun's alive.
That, to me, it's like, why think about other planets?
You have the source of all life on this planet, the main energy source for all life on this planet, outside of things that are getting it from, like, steam vents at the bottom of the sea through Things that are living in thermal ducts or whatever.
joe rogan
I'll go you one further.
duncan trussell
Please.
joe rogan
We're made out of stars.
We're literally...
Every fucking single piece of your body is stardust.
duncan trussell
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, that is what happens.
Human biology is a direct result of fucking suns blowing up.
duncan trussell
Yeah, that's right.
joe rogan
That's the only way you get the information to make human beings or the materials.
duncan trussell
It's so incredible that...
joe rogan
It sounds ridiculous.
unidentified
It sounds like a Kenny Rogers song.
duncan trussell
We're like retarded stars.
joe rogan
No, not just Kenny Rogers.
unidentified
Kenny Loggins.
joe rogan
Kenny Loggins.
No, it sounds like the fucking Highwaymen.
I was a highwayman.
duncan trussell
Yeah.
joe rogan
Across the ghost coast.
unidentified
If the sun's alive, where does it pick?
joe rogan
Sword and pistol by my son.
duncan trussell
God, I love that song.
joe rogan
It's a great song, man.
When Johnny Cash comes on, I ride a starship.
unidentified
Across the universe divide.
And when I reach the other side, I'll find the other side.
joe rogan
Yeah, if you haven't seen it, it's a song of the Highwaymen.
duncan trussell
Look it up.
joe rogan
It's about, look it up, Brian.
We already violated our music law today.
duncan trussell
That album's great anyway.
joe rogan
This is what happens when we get drunk.
unidentified
That's one it I have to do.
joe rogan
We open ourselves up to get sued.
Aaron Lewis, please don't sue me.
You think your fucking music's awesome.
duncan trussell
I love it too.
joe rogan
Hammer that wine.
Hammer that wine.
I'm hammered, son.
I'm officially hammered.
unidentified
I think I've got blood points for drinking too much fake blood.
joe rogan
We're stoned.
We're drinking wine.
duncan trussell
I'm on intelligence pills.
unidentified
I ate so much fake blood today, I think I might shit out drinking coconut water.
joe rogan
What's it made out of?
brian redban
I don't know, but they said not to drink it, but they were squirting it in my face, and I drank it.
joe rogan
Wow.
They said not to drink it, but you drank it.
You're so clever.
Cheers.
Cheers to my favorite, my little retard buddy.
duncan trussell
You're not a retard.
joe rogan
You're not a retard.
You only play one on the podcast.
Your life is awesome.
Ari Shafir is going to branch out on his own and have his own podcast on iTunes.
unidentified
He just wanted to do it frequently.
joe rogan
He also wants to do it.
It's hard to do.
Your podcast is getting super popular.
You've got so many people that are doing it.
If you don't know, Brian has a whole network of podcasts on iTunes called Death Squad.
It's with a bunch of great comics.
There's Sam Tripoli, he's got a podcast, and now John Reap and John Heffron are buddies.
Are doing a podcast.
And Tom Segura and his wife are doing a podcast.
Sam Tripoli is doing a podcast.
Did I miss anybody?
unidentified
Little Esther once in a while does one.
Brody does one when he's feeling good.
And...
joe rogan
I like how you phrased that.
They just had Steve-O on, and they've had a bunch of really good ones.
brian redban
We had Steve-O the day before that Mike Tyson and him ran into each other.
unidentified
What happened?
You didn't hear what happened at the roast?
The Charlie Sheen roast.
Now, I heard from word of word of word.
joe rogan
The internet?
unidentified
No, people.
I heard that...
joe rogan
Is it on the internet?
unidentified
Did you search it?
They just recorded it Saturday.
brian redban
Supposedly, Steve-O asked Mike Tyson if he could run into his fist with his face.
unidentified
No.
brian redban
And when he did it, he broke his nose, and he has a picture on Steve-O's on Twitter with two black eyes.
unidentified
By the way, Steve-O wants to come on this podcast.
joe rogan
I would love to have him on.
unidentified
He'd love to.
joe rogan
What were you talking about?
We're going to do Judah Friedlander.
He's going to come on, too.
My buddy Judah just contacted me.
He's number one.
He's hilarious.
And Max Kellerman, who is the HBO boxing analyst, my personal favorite boxing analyst, next to Jim Lampley, who's also, those two guys together are my two favorite boxing analysts.
You know, a lot of people think that because I do the commentary for the UFC that I don't like boxing.
I am a gigantic boxing fan.
I've been my whole life.
He's a fucking huge, huge boxing fan.
He bets ridiculous amounts of money on Pacquiao fights, on Floyd Mayweather fights.
He's a fucking huge fan.
But Max Kellerman, we're both fans of Max.
And he's cool as fuck.
He's a really interesting guy.
And he used to be a rapper.
So it's going to be...
He's a white guy, too.
And he used to be a rapper.
And he's really cool as fuck.
duncan trussell
That's cool.
joe rogan
And he's going to be on the podcast, too.
Yeah.
But Judah Friedlander and Graham Hancock.
We're going to work out Graham Hancock.
And the way this is going to work, Brian, is we're going to have to do it probably, most likely, in Irvine.
Because he's doing some seminars down there.
And he only has, like, one day off.
And I feel bad that he has to drive all the way the fuck here.
duncan trussell
Yeah, that's bad.
unidentified
Maybe we can get a spot at the Irvine.
joe rogan
What I want to do is we're going to have to talk after the show.
We're going to have to figure out a way to make this shit mobile.
duncan trussell
The sound guy we use for the Lavender Hour has just innovated a mobile podcast kit and I'm sure he'd help you guys out.
joe rogan
Shazam!
unidentified
We all have one.
It's called a laptop.
duncan trussell
It's like equipment.
This kid's a sound engineer.
He went to college for it.
joe rogan
This guy's a sound engineer.
We should listen to him.
What the fuck, Brian?
Anyway, so we'll do that.
But the bottom line is that we're going to go to Irvine and we're going to talk to Graham and see if we can make sure that this happens.
But Graham Hancock emailed me out of the blue.
It was one of the fucking coolest things in my life.
If you don't...
Well, the coolest thing so far of this whole thing...
How about this?
The coolest thing of my entire showbiz experience, right up there with my Spike TV special, which is my favorite special, is Anthony Bourdain doing the podcast.
unidentified
That's...
joe rogan
That was pretty crazy.
unidentified
Get a room.
joe rogan
That was cool as fuck.
I definitely got starstruck.
But the next coolest thing, and maybe even cooler if it's possible, is this Graham Hancock interview.
Because if you don't know who Graham Hancock is, I want you to go and research fingerprints of the gods if you're so inclined, if you're interested in this.
But what a fascinating guy who's basically dedicated his whole life to the very controversial and unpopular idea that human beings have been around perhaps far longer in this advanced state of civilization that we currently enjoy than we give credit to.
And in fact, there's been some huge ups and huge downs throughout history.
And it's not simply one straight path from caveman to Wi-Fi.
And that along the way, there's been some disasters.
And that this can be clearly...
I wouldn't say that it can be proven, but what I can say is enough evidence can be brought forth that makes you completely question the current ideas of the timelines of human history.
And this guy, Graham Hancock, is responsible for his book Fingerprints of the Gods, completely changing the way I look at civilization.
duncan trussell
Dude, did you send me...
Were you the one who sent me the fucking...
Video of that Mayan pyramid that they just found?
Yes.
Holy shit.
joe rogan
In Guatemala, yeah.
The single largest pyramid by volume on Earth, and it was covered in jungle.
They didn't even know it existed.
Yes, not only that, but it has a, you know, when the Spanish came and when the Mayans were conquered, you know, in different parts of, you know, South America, you know.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Obviously, different things happened.
But one of the things that was a big issue was the Mayan creation story was changed and altered and fucked up and broken up.
And it's very hard to find an unedited Mayan creation story.
The Pulpel View, it's called.
But they found this.
And it's undoctored, unedited, and it's amazing.
And they're going to work on translating it.
unidentified
Has there been anyone in it before?
Like, does it look like people from the jungle?
joe rogan
No, not only that, not only are they not in it, it was completely covered.
I mean, I'm sure some local people were aware of its existence because, you know, when you, you know, you stand, you walk around on there and all of a sudden you're like, what is this?
Well, dig a little, oh, it's a giant fucking perfectly hewn rock that's four feet wide and two feet tall.
Well, obviously this didn't just happen.
You know, somebody made this.
Who made this?
duncan trussell
It looks like a map.
joe rogan
They just didn't know that this mountain, you know, they say that there's thousands of these that they haven't discovered, which is so mind-boggling until you look at the geography of South America.
Or Google Maps.
Yeah, Google Maps.
But if you take into account the size of North America, South America, look at Mexico, look at how much land you're talking about and how much of it is jungle.
You know, they have found, there was a documentary that I was watching on Egypt, or excuse me, on the Amazon, rather, where they were talking about all these different structures that they're finding in the jungles of civilization.
They have no idea how this civilization got there, don't know who they were, don't know what their origins were.
But they're looking at aqueducts, they're looking at roads, they're looking at all this shit that's just run over by the jungle.
And the reality is, man, if you have a fucking house and you put this giant stone house in the middle of the Amazon...
A hundred years from now, that motherfucker is going to be covered with trees.
duncan trussell
Yeah, man.
There's a documentary on Netflix you can watch.
Now I can't remember the name of it, but I'm taking these fucking alpha brain pills.
unidentified
You're taking them backwards, dude.
joe rogan
I'll Google it.
duncan trussell
Tell me what it's about.
It's an explorer who was searching for this famed lost city that existed in the middle of the Amazon.
It might be that pyramid that they found.
He was looking for it based on some old scrolls in this library that he found.
And he was like a theosophist because the theosophists were really into this idea that there still existed advanced civilizations on this planet that had closed themselves off to the rest of human society.
And he thought he would find a place where people were still living there.
But he went down into the Amazon and just basically vanished.
joe rogan
This is Save the Secrets of the Dead, Lost Amazon.
A PBS documentary that's on Netflix called The Secrets of the Dead set out to find the fabled Lost City of Z. That's it.
Yeah.
And the Amazon in 1925 led to a mysterious disappearance.
It's actually a movie.
It's a drama.
duncan trussell
There's a documentary, too.
joe rogan
Oh, no, it is a documentary.
I'm sorry.
Liev Schreiber is apparently the...
I looked at that author, or that actor.
I assumed that he was an actor.
He's actually the narrator of it.
duncan trussell
Yeah, but it was like a big news story because he was a famous explorer that vanished, and it was weird that he would have vanished.
joe rogan
I'm going to watch that shit tonight.
duncan trussell
It's really fucking cool, man.
But he thought that there would actually be people living there who would give him...
It was a mystical quest for him.
He really thought that there was going to be this advanced civilization still in existence that was somehow going to transmit this information to him, which some people still believe.
There's the hollow earth theory, the idea that Shambhala exists in the Arctic.
Have you ever seen that shit?
unidentified
No.
duncan trussell
You've never seen in the North Pole the idea?
joe rogan
Hold on a second.
The Secrets of the Dead, apparently it's a whole series.
There's a bunch of them, and they're available online.
Secrets of the Dead, China's Terracotta Warrior.
You know what that is?
unidentified
Yep.
joe rogan
Where they found this army of Terracotta soldiers buried for thousands of years, or however fucking long it was.
Secrets of the Dead, Herculaneum Uncovered.
I don't know what that is.
Secrets of the Dead, Silver Pharaoh.
Secrets of the Dead, World's Biggest Bomb.
Secrets of the Dead, The Dead Sea Scrolls.
One star on Amazon.com.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
It can't be too good.
unidentified
How do you give one star?
joe rogan
I don't know.
Churchill's Deadly Decision has got four stars.
unidentified
Maybe that movie has the same commercial.
joe rogan
So Lost in the Amazon only has two stars.
duncan trussell
That wasn't the best.
joe rogan
Well, you know what, man?
Who knows?
One customer review.
Maybe you got one cunt who reviewed it and didn't like it.
But anyway, the point is that this discovery in Guatemala, I believe they discovered it in 2009. And it's just sort of being publicized today.
And it made its way through Twitter.
But somebody sent to me on Twitter when I retweeted it or whatever the hell happened.
He said, this is from 2009. He's like, this old shit.
The guy said, this old shit.
I'm like, oh my god, that's 24 months ago.
We're talking about some shit that's been buried without human beings ever finding it for fucking thousands of years.
No one knew it was there.
The unedited Mayan creation story.
unidentified
Yeah.
duncan trussell
Do they still have She Stole My Voice on Netflix?
Not to change the subject.
joe rogan
What is that?
duncan trussell
It's a documentary about lesbian rape.
unidentified
I recommend Grand Canyon.
joe rogan
What?
duncan trussell
It's like lesbians raping each other.
joe rogan
Oh, no way!
Lesbians rape each other?
Will they just fucking force scissors on each other?
duncan trussell
Yeah.
The idea is that you mount someone's face and face fuck them.
joe rogan
This is not on Netflix, bro.
duncan trussell
They took it off.
Did you find it?
unidentified
No, it's not on the IMDB. She Stole My Voice on Netflix.
I was talking to Duncan in the car on the way here.
I watched Grand Canyon recently.
Do you remember Grand Canyon?
joe rogan
Yeah, we talked about this.
unidentified
Yeah, it's weird how time has passed since that movie came out and how we don't buy it anymore.
We're way more intelligent than 1998. 3 or whenever that movie came out.
Because that movie, in the first hour, 15 things happened in one day almost to all these same people.
joe rogan
Weren't they unconnected though?
There were a bunch of different things happening to people who didn't even know each other?
brian redban
Kind of, but yet there was also like, alright, the husband almost got mugged and his car got stolen and then the next morning his wife is walking and found a baby in a bush and then his secretary...
joe rogan
Are they connected though?
unidentified
Yeah, but it's all crazy shit happening in one day.
It's so ridiculous.
Now you kind of watch and you're like, this seems pretty extreme for one day.
joe rogan
This Lesbian Rafe movie gets terrible reviews.
duncan trussell
Oh, it's terrible.
joe rogan
A horrible documentary.
I wish I could have known there were reviews of this movie before I purchased it.
duncan trussell
No, it's really so funny.
It's the worst documentary you'll ever see.
Because really all it is is like a porn that somebody wanted to call a documentary.
Because it's like reenactments of...
joe rogan
The girl's like, no.
unidentified
Stop.
duncan trussell
Stop.
It's like just all these reenactments of lesbians' face sitting.
It's just reenactments of some lesbian sitting on another woman's face who's like...
No!
No!
I can't get you off!
joe rogan
Is that how lesbians rape each other?
duncan trussell
Well, I guess so, man.
unidentified
Exactly how it is.
Really?
Yeah, he's dead on.
It's weird.
It's freaky that you know how to do it so well.
joe rogan
Wait a minute.
Do you know about this for real?
duncan trussell
He doesn't.
Brian knows about that.
joe rogan
What do you think happens more?
duncan trussell
He studied it in school.
joe rogan
What do you think happens more?
Ready?
Lesbian rape or Chinese NASCAR drivers?
unidentified
Chinese NASCAR drivers.
duncan trussell
I'm not kidding.
I'm not getting in that one.
joe rogan
Imagine being a fucking Chinese dude who just really loves cars and you get in a NASCAR and you have to hang out with those assholes.
unidentified
Like, hey man, you want to whip us up some Chinese food before the next lap?
Hee hee hee!
Hee hee!
joe rogan
I want to drive fast in a circle!
unidentified
Oh, you know who wants to come on the podcast?
I totally forgot about this.
Dr. Ken.
joe rogan
Dr. Ken?
duncan trussell
That's cool.
He's great.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
From Zookeeper?
The Hangover?
unidentified
Yeah, he saw Joey Diaz the other day, and he wants to come on.
duncan trussell
He's hilarious.
unidentified
Jim Norton's in town right now.
joe rogan
He is?
Well, Duncan and I are only in town for a couple days, son.
unidentified
That's right.
Because we've got to get ourselves over to New Orleans.
duncan trussell
New Orleans!
joe rogan
We're going to do the House of Blues this fucking Friday night, and then it's Sold out, bitches!
duncan trussell
Sorry!
joe rogan
You snooze!
duncan trussell
I can't wait.
joe rogan
But we're also going to be at the UFC, Allenberger versus Jake Shields this Saturday, which is going to be sick.
What a last...
unidentified
Any reports on Jake?
joe rogan
Well, you know, for people who don't know, Jake Shields' dad died.
And he died just a couple of weeks ago.
And Jake, his dad was his manager.
And his dad is, like, super-duper close to him.
And, you know, they grew up where his dad homeschooled him in the mountains.
So, I mean, everybody's relationship to their father except mine, because I don't know that douche...
Everybody's relationship is close.
Not everybody's, but a lot of people's.
Jake Shields was particularly close to his dad.
So for him to fight just a couple of weeks after his dad died is devastating.
His dad was pretty healthy.
His dad died in his sleep.
His dad was a vegetarian.
Jake is a vegetarian.
Jake grew up vegetarian.
He only gets his animal protein from eggs.
He just believes that factory farming is fucked up.
And he would actually eat animal food as long as it was hunted.
unidentified
Isn't that crazy for you?
Like Kevin Smith was saying the other day, just like that, everything can fucking change.
You could wake up and have a stroke and never walk again.
joe rogan
We have to somehow or another balance the idea of ambition and Planning for the future with enjoying the present.
And that's the grand dance that everybody has to go through.
It's so difficult to master.
And I still don't have it down.
I don't think anyone ever has it down, but I'm way better at it now than I ever was when I was younger.
I'm way better at it.
And I can offer some insight.
Here's the number one piece of insight that I can offer.
Be reckless.
I'm reckless.
I'm a little bit reckless.
But I'm also really nice.
I try to be as nice as I can.
Don't save anybody.
People say, oh, I met Joe Rogan, he's a dick.
I guarantee you're a dick to me first.
For sure.
And you might have been a dick because you were nervous, or you might have been a dick because you were drunk.
But if you're nice to me, I can't be not nice to you.
It is impossible.
I grew up...
I've been a nice person as long as I've been capable of being a nice person.
Don't wear a condom.
Don't wear a condom?
What are you saying?
brian redban
I'm just saying do everything exactly opposite what you're told to do.
joe rogan
Well, I don't know if that's the truth.
I don't know if that's the case.
It's like you have to...
When you start talking about sex, okay?
And you say don't wear a condom.
Sex, to me, is just like doing drugs.
unidentified
It's natural.
duncan trussell
It's fun.
joe rogan
Yes, it is natural.
It's fun.
But...
You can get caught up in it and you can get fucking crazy.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And it has just as much of a pull as any other kind of crazy psychological addiction, whether it's gambling or anything like that.
duncan trussell
But Brian, you don't really mean don't wear a condom.
Yeah, I do.
joe rogan
It feels good.
It feels way better to not wear a condom.
unidentified
You wear a condom for the first month or two and then you figure out the girl enough to decide if you want to or not.
joe rogan
You need an abortion in your life to appreciate how things can go wrong.
unidentified
It makes you Dude, let me tell you.
duncan trussell
Can I tell you a little horror story?
I'll tell you a little horror story.
unidentified
Fuck yes you can.
duncan trussell
I'll tell you a horror story.
I would love to hear it.
There's someone that I know.
There's someone that I know who got a waitress pregnant.
joe rogan
A waitress?
Where did you work?
Why can't she just be a girl, man?
Why did you have to make her a waitress?
duncan trussell
Because he was a bartender or something.
I don't know.
Because they both worked at the same place.
So they worked together at this place.
joe rogan
I'm just going reverse sexism on you.
duncan trussell
I don't know why I said it.
I don't mean to label people.
I'm so sorry.
Stop lesbian rape.
So they ended up...
He ended up putting his pee-pee inside of her, and guess what happened?
She got pregnant.
joe rogan
He should have kept the cell phone in his pocket.
duncan trussell
Yeah, but he should have.
And guess what?
She doesn't want a fucking abortion.
No, this is a one-night stand.
Now, he's a daddy, but it's with someone that he just fucked one night.
It's like now he's legally bound for the rest of his life to his kid.
unidentified
He didn't wait the two-month rule.
duncan trussell
You gotta wear a fucking condom.
You're crazy if you don't wear a condom.
joe rogan
Yeah, but you also gotta fuck people that you like.
unidentified
Yeah.
duncan trussell
Well, yeah.
joe rogan
It's hard to say because you want to fuck anybody who's willing to give up the pussy at a certain point in time.
Pussy's like water and you're living in a desert, okay?
It's like, where can I get it?
Where's the water?
You know, it's only until you live by a fucking stream and you can drink water every day can you see the forest for the trees.
Because otherwise, your entire waking life is dedicated to getting this resource that is fucking water.
Or pussy.
Either one.
They're interchangeable.
And when they're plentiful, then you can see them for what they truly are.
And it doesn't necessarily mean that you have to get spoiled.
It doesn't necessarily mean that you don't appreciate it.
You should totally appreciate every single one of the biological pleasures of existence.
One of the reasons why I'm a huge fan of Anthony Bourdain is because he calls himself an enthusiast, but he is a chef.
And he enjoys, he really shows how much joy you can get in eating great food.
unidentified
During the whole podcast.
joe rogan
I think that the feeling of taste and the feeling of pleasure and the feeling of friendship.
I like drinking wine.
I like smoking weed.
I like seeing fun movies.
I like listening to great music.
I like being inundated by great feeling shit.
I think it's important to wrap our heads around that.
duncan trussell
Well, I mean, if you can accept it, it's just like...
Me and my friend were just talking about this Sartre, this French existentialist philosopher, and how the existentialists basically have this idea where it's like, yeah, you can fucking enjoy reality and get caught up in being an enthusiast or whatever, but the depths of it, it's just pure absurdity.
There's no meaning behind it.
There's no meaning to life.
It's like just this empty...
It's a meaningless vortex.
So like, you know, for example, like when you see your dog dry hump another dog, you know, you see the dog dry hump and you kind of watch it.
It's kind of funny, but it's like you're watching an instinctual trigger, you know, go through the thing and it just acts this thing out.
And then when you find yourself humping somebody that you just met and you realize you're going through the same instinctual trigger and you're like, ah, fuck!
unidentified
I'm doing the same thing!
duncan trussell
It's the same thing!
No meaning to this.
No meaning.
This is just a...
I've triggered a series of responses in my primate brain that is wanting to reproduce.
Once I come, I'm going to go right back into this state.
And that's absurdity.
That's a form of absurdity.
joe rogan
I got an answer, a question for you, Brian, because...
We're trying to figure out how to rephrase it.
unidentified
It's so funny you just said that because I just thought of something the other day.
You ever scratch a cat's butt and they do that thing where they're just like...
You ever fucked a girl and seen her do the exact same thing?
It's creepy.
It's almost exactly the same.
joe rogan
Yeah.
duncan trussell
It's because they turn into a machine.
joe rogan
You know what that means?
You're not fucking them hard enough.
You've got to fuck them to the point where they're nervous.
unidentified
No, I think their body's freaking out.
I think the body's short-circuiting.
I think that's what it is.
joe rogan
Not the way I fuck them, dude.
duncan trussell
Nervous?
joe rogan
The way I fuck them, they get nervous.
duncan trussell
Like before an audition?
What are they nervous about?
joe rogan
I'm on top of them.
And that's a lot of pressure, son.
That's 185 pounds of alpha just shooting loads into your body, making grunts.
No, listen.
Don't make anybody nervous.
Imagine a girl on top of you that's way bigger than you, and while she's fucking you, she just starts fucking hitting you.
unidentified
You fucking bitch, you think you can fuck me?
joe rogan
Can you imagine being in a situation where your girl can kick your ass?
Have you ever been there?
unidentified
Like Bourdain's?
duncan trussell
I don't think so.
joe rogan
Well, I don't think Bourdain's wife can kick his ass.
He's still a man and she's still a man.
duncan trussell
Anybody on enough adrenaline.
joe rogan
Anthony Bourdain been around the world.
I guarantee you, he probably has no endurance, but he knows how to throw us straight, right?
unidentified
Charity boxing match.
duncan trussell
If you have a hammer in your house and you sleep necked to somebody, they can kick your ass no matter who they are.
They can slam the hammer into your fucking face while you're sleeping.
joe rogan
Yeah, if they catch you off guard.
duncan trussell
Yeah, they can catch you off guard.
joe rogan
This video is online of girls sucker punching guys and knocking them unconscious.
There's a bunch of them.
What's that?
They sucker punch a guy.
You know what a sucker punch is?
duncan trussell
Yeah, I know what a sucker punch is.
joe rogan
There's a lot of videos of girls sucker punching guys online.
unidentified
Why?
It's a great fetish.
joe rogan
Listen, man, there's a fucking wide world out there.
A lot of fucking things happen.
A lot of cross streets.
A lot of one thing intersects with this thing when it wasn't prepared.
unidentified
It's a fetish.
joe rogan
The next thing you know, a fucking coked up girl punches a drunk guy in the jaw and knocks him unconscious.
It happens all over the world.
duncan trussell
I just somehow miss these videos.
unidentified
It's like MMA spanking.
joe rogan
There was a girl that used to work for a buddy of mine.
She was my friend's assistant.
And she could punch so fucking hard.
She was nice.
I mean, she wouldn't have ever punched anybody.
But she was like, I can punch hard.
And I was like, alright, whatever.
Fucking do commentary for the UFC. You can punch hard.
There's some people, man.
There's some people that, for whatever fucking reason, they got this crazy Tommy Hearns punch.
It's a weird thing, man, because I've experienced this since I was a child, since I first started doing martial arts.
Every now and then, you'll come across some guy who can just...
He hits so fucking hard.
You're like, where is that coming from?
He's 160 pounds.
It doesn't even make sense.
But when he hits the bag, the bag just moves more than anybody else.
There was this fucking chick, and she was a regular girl.
She was like 23 years old.
She was my friend's assistant.
And she was like, I can punch.
I can punch.
Okay.
She's like, put your hand up.
I put my hand up.
She goes, she hit me, and I thought about my face.
She hit my hand, and my hand was stinging.
unidentified
Fuck.
joe rogan
And she turned her shoulder into it and threw her fucking weight into it, and she went two knuckles for it.
I go, who the fuck taught you how to punch like that?
You know, like her dad taught her how to punch people and shit, but I was like, man, if that chick punches you in the face, she will knock you the fuck out.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
If you're not ready for it, it only takes a certain amount of pressure to hit your jaw in a certain way.
Your legs just go.
I've seen it.
I've seen it in person.
I've seen it in fights.
I've seen it in bars.
I've seen it all my life.
It's a weird phenomenon.
If you don't expect it...
duncan trussell
Why is it the jaw?
Why the jaw?
Design flaw.
It's a design flaw?
joe rogan
Design flaw.
Complete design flaw.
duncan trussell
It's like a power-off button.
joe rogan
Well, this is what it is.
Your brain is this fucking central core of information, of movement, of everything.
All the design, all the direction comes from this spot.
Well, what your body is, is like a fucking house that has a bunch of Ethernet cables in it.
You know, and you want to get internet to your toes.
Well, you've got to run lines.
You've got to run nerves through your whole situation.
Well, you also have this thing where you have to chew food to supply the body.
So, well, how do we do this?
Well, we've got to have something that moves.
We're going to have something that moves and it's going to be hard and bony and it's going to be right in front of all the cords.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
We have no choice.
That's the design.
We just got to hope that the human doesn't get hit on the jawbone and it doesn't compress all those nerves that send the signals down to all the limbs.
Because if it does, everything shuts off.
duncan trussell
It's right here, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
duncan trussell
They call that the...
unidentified
The jaw.
No, no, no.
joe rogan
It's the actual jaw itself.
duncan trussell
Is that what they call the button?
joe rogan
Yes.
What I call the button is the movement of the jaw.
unidentified
I caught the apples.
joe rogan
The jaw presses into the cord.
Well, I don't...
Listen, when I say presses into the cord...
What the fuck do I know is inside my neck?
It could be all elves and shit.
It could be all sparkly fairy dust that comes out when you cut my throat.
I'm just guessing.
But the idea that I've had to explain to me is that the nerves, when you punch a person on the jaw, that their jawbone slams into the cluster of nerves behind them, and it just causes this big electrical short circuit, depending on a bunch of different things, depending and it just causes this big electrical short circuit, depending on a bunch of different things, depending on your determination, depending on your anger, your adrenaline level, your focus, Whether or not you've been punched before, you know how to react to it or how to stay calm under pressure.
And depending on the physiological design of your actual frame, different body structures can take a different load of impact.
Like large jaws and big David Tua-looking faces.
There was a guy named David Tua who still is a very dangerous heavyweight boxer.
He's just a Samoan dude, Tonga dude, whatever the fuck he is.
He's anyways, whatever he is.
I believe he's Samoan.
He's a badass boxer.
And one of the things about him is this motherfucker can take a punch, man.
You can hit David Tua with a bomb.
He fought Lennox Lewis, and Lennox Lewis connected with straight right hands that just would have put normal men on the moon and just boom, hit him.
Hits him, and he can take it.
He just doesn't go out.
He's got an incredible jaw on top of big, big punching power.
So there's that.
There's the shape of your frame, the shape of your body, the thickness of your tendons and cords, and then there's just the fucking design flaw.
The jaw goes to the cluster of nerves, and depending on your sensitivity, some people just shut right off.
There's some dudes that they just have a glass jaw, man, and all you have to do is get to their jaw, and What?
unidentified
Mr. A. It's so embarrassing.
joe rogan
Why is that embarrassing?
It's fascinating.
duncan trussell
It's fucking embarrassing.
joe rogan
Why is it embarrassing?
You know what's embarrassing?
Because you never beat the fuck out of a dude in a cage.
duncan trussell
No, I don't mean that.
No, look, look.
joe rogan
Take that shot.
unidentified
Bang!
joe rogan
Come back with a counter hook.
unidentified
Boom!
joe rogan
He drops.
The crowd goes nuts.
Ah!
duncan trussell
No, it's amazing.
I think that's really cool to watch and I fucking love it.
But I just think that when you get into a situation where you have a bungee cord hanging out of your mouth and you're lifting weights with your jaw, it's embarrassing.
It's like that moment in time, if I was doing that, if I'm like, gotta get my fucking jaw straight!
I'd be like, dude, why don't you fucking pick up a history book?
unidentified
It's time to look at a globe.
joe rogan
You're right and you're not at the same time.
And here's why you're right.
You're right because you see where this is all going.
You see the falling away of the archaic models and the ridiculous nature of clinging to our monkey genetics.
But we are trapped in this age and we have about 80 years to have a good fucking time.
And one of the things, to have a good time.
You know, You Got That Right is one of my favorite songs ever.
Leonard Skinner's song, I Like to Drink and Dance All Night.
There's nothing wrong with that.
There's nothing wrong with liking a drink and dance all night.
There's nothing wrong with going to fights.
These guys agreed to do this.
Let them do it.
They're going to do it.
They want to do it.
I used to do it.
They're going to do it.
duncan trussell
There's nothing wrong with that.
joe rogan
It's fucking fun to watch.
unidentified
Go.
joe rogan
Go.
Enjoy it.
Oh, man.
I feel really bad about porn and porn exploits women.
Well, guess what?
There's 100 million gigabytes on the internet.
Tsunami.
You're not going to go back in time and keep those girls from being fingered by their uncle.
You're not going to do it.
unidentified
I've tried.
joe rogan
And if you can jerk off to that, you will feel better.
duncan trussell
No, enjoy it.
By the way, if you see a kid playing with dolls and you go up to the kid and you're like, you know those dolls aren't real and what you're doing is totally meaningless, you're kind of an asshole.
The kid's lucky it's getting to play with dolls.
The kid's fucking lucky that the kid can get fixated on dolls.
joe rogan
That he can wear a fucking towel around his neck and pretend he's a superhero and run around his backyard with a cardboard sword.
duncan trussell
Lucky.
joe rogan
He's lucky.
duncan trussell
lucky but i so in the same way when adults are doing the identical thing and taking on these uh silly identities and strengthening their jaws and they're absorbed and their attention is focused onto whatever the fucking thing is whether if it's leonard skinner's drunken night of line dancing or somebody punching his fist through a fucking wall or someone climbing a mountain or whatever if that's grabbing your attention lucky you don't stop it Yeah.
But once that shit stops distracting you, if you continue on that path and pretend that it still is distracting you from the void, that's where shit gets weird.
joe rogan
Maybe.
Maybe you get to a certain point where you realize, what difference does it make?
What difference does it make what my understanding of the situation is?
What difference does it make my acceptance of the void if I am but a temporary creature?
And should I not just enjoy this time and spread as much positive energy as possible and contribute my part in a true and clear understanding that I cannot fix all this?
duncan trussell
You ever see those videos?
joe rogan
But that is my obligation to enjoy this moment and to have as much positive feeling as possible.
Spread as much positive feeling as possible.
That is my instinct.
That is my drive.
When I'm in the isolation tank and I'm alone and when I'm at my most happiest, when I'm thinking about things, you know what I think?
I think I have a rare opportunity to spread as much positive energy as possible.
And I think that is what is most important.
That is my instinctual pull.
That's what's pulling me.
What's pulling me is I feel like I've got this weird, crazy opportunity.
We have this weird, crazy opportunity.
Right now, there's at least a half a million people listening to this.
Over the course of iTunes and Stitcher and Ustream...
It's more than that.
It's going to be even more than that over the course of a couple of years.
Because this shit is going to spread and spread and spread and some of these ideas are going to resonate with people because you are Ahead of a lot of other people in this weird game of thinking there's people out there that right now are listening to this podcast They are 19 years old and they've never considered any of the ideas that Duncan Trussell is presenting to them and the idea that you know that That it's human civilization and ideas and all these things could be literally alien life forms trying to manifest themselves in a conscious way on this plane and that's how they interact with people and
There's a lot of people right now, 17, 16, 15, sitting with their friends, getting their fucking mind blown by you, dude.
And you don't think about it because you're just being you, but that impact is serious and legitimate.
duncan trussell
Yeah, that's a cool...
And that impacts...
joe rogan
You love it!
duncan trussell
Well, of course.
And also, it's fun to...
What you're saying is exactly the thing that I'm obsessed with is whatever that is, transmitting...
Anytime you can help someone be happy or connect with something, it's awesome.
unidentified
Hey, do you think the Dalai Lama on Twitter's real?
joe rogan
I don't know.
If he is, he's a dumbass.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
I fucking love it!
What are you talking about?
unidentified
That's the most positive shit he ever...
He writes positive shit every day.
joe rogan
Yeah, he does.
He does.
He also writes a bunch of fucking pacifist bullshit.
unidentified
Wise people serve others.
Putting the needs of others above their own.
The ultimate result will be that you find more happiness.
joe rogan
It sounds like a song written by a dude who's trying to fuck a girl.
unidentified
If you're on a canoe...
He's got someone tweeting for him.
joe rogan
You think that's what it is?
unidentified
It's not verified.
Of course, Twitter doesn't verify anymore.
I don't know if you guys know that.
Twitter stopped verifying.
joe rogan
Oh, well, I'm verified, son, grandfathered bitches.
unidentified
Joe, you have a collector's edition Twitter that you can sell before it goes to MySpace.
joe rogan
Special interest.
unidentified
Sell right now.
duncan trussell
Yeah, man, but to get back to that idea that we were just talking about, when you find yourself successfully getting fixated on shit, like successfully getting into something, the last thing you should do is stop it.
It's kind of sad when you see people who really enjoy something and out of some sense of guilt, they're trying to stop themselves from doing it, but like...
Like, addicts, they keep doing stuff even though they're clearly aware that it's not satiating them anymore.
They're just doing it out of habit.
joe rogan
Well, you've been addicted to things.
duncan trussell
Fuck yeah!
I have an addictive personality, so I know exactly what it's like to have the focus of my mind sucked away by something for me to consciously think, I don't want to do this anymore.
joe rogan
This is a direct, this conversation, this idea is directly connected to what we were talking about earlier, about hijacking the reward system, about something that is artificial, and artificial in its power, in its potency, the idea of...
It's a fucking oxycontin pill.
That shit is artificial.
Something's not supposed to impact you that strong.
A fucking avatar.
Avatar in 3D. If you were a caveman, your DNA is basically the same DNA as people that lived 10,000 years ago drawing fucking stupid buffaloes on the cave walls while we're living by the light of a fire.
It's impossible to wrap your fucking head around the kind of impact that's having on the organism.
duncan trussell
Yeah, well, it's all a magnification of the four basic drives.
Eating, sleeping, mating, and defending.
Those are the things that drive all, probably most, organic forms of life.
I don't know about amoebas and shit.
joe rogan
And, but, and love.
And look, it sounds gay as fuck, but we can say it because we're drunk.
The reason why this podcast works, the reason why we all can do this over and over and over again is because we love each other.
unidentified
We're all passing notes underneath the table to each other.
joe rogan
We're playing footsie.
unidentified
Think of how freaked out everyone would be if we all were playing.
joe rogan
How about if we only did this podcast holding hands and with our sweaty feet touching each other?
unidentified
You know what would be cool if we all played Superman with each other afterwards?
That's what it turned into.
joe rogan
But, you know, the reason why we can have this conversation and be so fucking crazy with our ideas is you know I'm not going to judge you.
You know, the judgment between you and me is already done.
It's over.
We know each other.
We know each other literally inside and out.
I know your weirdest fucking thing.
You lived with me.
We lived together, you know?
And Brian and I have known each other for almost a decade.
We know each other inside and out.
Brian and I have cried together, as gay as that sounds.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
We've cried together.
He's my friend.
We've known each other forever.
So because of that, because we know each other so well, and we know we're both looking out, we're all three looking out for each other, we can say anything.
But what we're doing is we're saying anything, and somehow or another...
Way more people than we're ever going to meet ever in our fucking life are listening all at once.
duncan trussell
Yeah, it's crazy.
joe rogan
And that's where things get squirrely.
And that's where things get, you know, when we sit and we contemplate, like, you know, what is consciousness?
What is reality?
What are ideas?
What is imagination?
Where does it go?
Why is it going?
Why is it going through you?
Why is it going through me?
Why are we so looking forward to going to New Orleans where this weekend you and I are going to go to the House of Blues, a sold-out show, and we're going to perform for...
We don't know those people...
I'll probably know 10 people in the audience.
There'll be a bunch of people from the UFC that'll ask for tickets.
I'll hook them up.
There'll be 20, 30 people, and it's you and me, and we're going to have the greatest fucking time ever.
duncan trussell
Yeah, it's going to be incredible.
joe rogan
Why?
Because you've been putting that thing out your whole life.
And I've been putting that thing out my whole life.
brian redban
You would cry if you found out it was a guy also.
joe rogan
What guy?
unidentified
When we cried together.
joe rogan
This fucking podcast is over.
unidentified
Brian gets the line of the night.
joe rogan
If you want to get in touch with Duncan, you can follow him on Twitter, and now he's obligated to respond to all of your messages because he told you that all you had to do was call him about the fucking expensive podcast.
unidentified
It searches video with Tim and Eric.
I don't think we've ever talked about it on this podcast.
Have we talked about it?
duncan trussell
No.
unidentified
He has the surfing video, the body surfing.
duncan trussell
Body Boy's legend.
Legend of the Pipers.
unidentified
It's one of the best videos.
I laughed my ass off.
duncan trussell
Yeah, it's pretty great.
It's something I did with Tim and Eric for HBO's Funny or Die.
Is that it?
No.
It's something I did for Tim and Eric for HBO's Funny or Die, and it's like basically a takeoff on those skateboarding videos, but it's about we play these idiots, like idiots who learn to body surf, but mainly it's just about us all fucking this one dude on the beach.
It's so crazy!
unidentified
It's one of the best things I have seen in a while.
joe rogan
You fucked a dude on a beach?
duncan trussell
Yeah, a beach whore.
A beach whore.
unidentified
That's why I thought of it.
You kissed another guy.
What was it like to kiss another guy?
duncan trussell
It was amazing.
joe rogan
You kissed another guy, for real?
duncan trussell
Well, I mean, I believe it was on the cheek.
unidentified
No, it wasn't?
duncan trussell
I don't remember.
unidentified
I thought it was on the dick.
joe rogan
You know I love you, bro.
unidentified
I'm just kidding.
It's a very funny video.
joe rogan
What are the dates, man?
What's still available?
This weekend is totally sold out.
unidentified
We have tomorrow, by the way.
joe rogan
Yes.
unidentified
Out of nowhere show.
joe rogan
Tomorrow, out of nowhere show.
We're doing it at the Ice House.
Oh, we should talk about this real quick.
We are all of us.
Last weekend, we did the comedy.
There's two rooms at the Ice House in Pasadena, which is one of my favorite clubs in the country.
It's been around for about 30 plus years.
I think 35 years.
It's not just a comedy club.
It's a goddamn museum.
It's like the Comedy and Magic Club in Hermosa.
It's one of those clubs that's been around forever.
And it's got all this like a really amazing history in the walls and it's a really cool fucking club And there's a there's two rooms.
There's the big showroom.
I say big, you know in quotes.
It's 185 seats It's very small.
It's very intimate, but then there's this other room.
It's like 85 seats and You know Brian and I you know at all come you've you've talked about it We've talked about it before about like what's the perfect size of a comedy club?
I don't know This weekend we're going to do somewhere around 700 people at the House of Blues, which is like a medium.
And then there's the really small places where it's like the Ice House, which is like 85 people.
And then there's October 7th in Houston with Brendan Walsh and me and Joey Diaz.
We're going to do the Horizon Wireless Theater, which is like thousands of fucking people.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
So it's all different sizes, but there's something magical about those little fucking rooms, man.
And we did that little 85-seat room at the Ice House this past weekend.
And Brian and I and Ari and Al Madrigal and Brendan Walsh, all of us, we got together and we talked about it.
I was like, this place is fucking great.
And then someone came up with the idea.
I don't know who it was.
unidentified
I was like, imagine just renting out that room right there and doing a podcast after shows.
joe rogan
Okay, it's Brian.
Also, Brendan said, I know it was Brendan Walsh said, why not just do it right here, right in front of the door?
Which, I don't know if that would work.
But it might work sometimes.
unidentified
Can you imagine fans trying to do a podcast?
Yo, Rogan, come here!
joe rogan
Well, this is what I was thinking.
If we hired some Tate Fletcher looking dudes to fucking keep people away from you and fucking keep the peace and then just...
But the energy of all those people, as long as they didn't interfere, the energy of all those people hanging out.
unidentified
It's like when we did the live show with Jim Norton.
There was definitely a different feeling when you were trying to feel like you're entertaining people watching you.
It's good because here we're hanging out.
duncan trussell
I did a live podcast.
It's great.
I did a live podcast at the Laughing Skull on stage.
It was fucking awesome.
joe rogan
Well, that's a small club.
The one we did with Jen Norton is small, too.
We did it at Kevin Smith's place, which is only like 60 people, I think.
But my point is that we're going to do our idea for a podcast.
We kind of assimilated all our ideas together.
And the best idea seems to be, wherever we put it, it's the comics that are right about to go on stage.
Or just got off stage.
And we're fucking smoking weed.
We're talking shit.
Just like this.
Just like this show.
And we do it, you know, Brandon Walsh, John Heffron, John Reed.
Who the fuck?
Who the fuck is in town?
You know, anybody...
Judah Friedlander texted me and said he wants to come on the show.
How about Judah Friedlander, you know...
Calls us on a Wednesday night and says, hey, I want to come to your fucking crazy podcast thing at the Ice House.
unidentified
Boom!
joe rogan
He comes down to the Ice House, and we have this wild-ass show with 85 people in that little room.
We do a free podcast.
We all have a good time.
unidentified
Not deal with Hollywood bullshit.
joe rogan
Exactly.
Not deal with traffic and...
unidentified
Black wizards.
joe rogan
Black wizards and parking and nonsense.
Listen, you fucking get the gist.
This goddamn fucking show is over.
duncan trussell
Hey, wait, can I tell people this show I'm doing?
unidentified
No!
What the fuck are you doing?
joe rogan
Let me ask you this, man.
unidentified
This is fucking 7-1 podcast enough, man.
joe rogan
Come on, man.
September 23rd, Joe Diaz, Ari Shafir, and I are at the Paramount Theater in Denver, Colorado.
Tickets are still available.
They're going quick.
There's not much left.
If you're interested in brain pills, go to onnit.com.
If you want to see one of the most interesting and fascinating stand-up comics in the country, and one of my best friends, go see Duncan Trussell at the Laughing Skull in Atlanta, Georgia.
And when is that?
duncan trussell
That's at the end of this month, and I'll be in Seattle.
joe rogan
What was it?
What was the dates?
duncan trussell
It's the last weekend in this month.
It'll be on my website.
It just happened.
joe rogan
And that's dunkintrussell.com.
T-R-U-S-S-E-L-L. Call the Laughing Skull in Atlanta.
And if it's the last weekend, it is either the 23rd or the 24th or the 30th and the 1st of October.
Duncan doesn't know?
duncan trussell
It's got to be the 20th.
It's the last weekend of this month.
joe rogan
Okay, but Friday is the 30th.
duncan trussell
Oh yeah, that's it.
joe rogan
Okay, Friday the 30th?
duncan trussell
Yeah, that's it.
Call them.
unidentified
That's it.
joe rogan
So you're basically doing the weekend and Saturday night it'll be October 1st.
duncan trussell
That's it, yeah.
joe rogan
That's it?
unidentified
You sure?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
DuncanTrussell.com.
T-R-U-S-S-E-L-L. Holla at your boy.
Thank you to the Fleshlight.
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Did your girlfriend still hide yours or throw them away?
unidentified
No.
duncan trussell
I need a new one, yes!
joe rogan
I got a new one.
I got a box of them.
Great.
unidentified
He's selling them on you.
joe rogan
Who loves you?
Who loves you like I do?
Next week, we're going to get as many people as we want.
I know that Jim Norton is in town.
Jim contacted me.
We're going to try to get Jim in here.
We're going to try to do Judah Freelander, like I said.
unidentified
We're going to do Max Ketterman.
joe rogan
We're going to get Liza Schlesinger, for sure.
She has a new show.
And for sure, Graham Hancock and that will most likely be the 23rd.
Not sure if we're going to do Ustream with that because it all depends on how good the wireless system is in the hotel we go to in Irvine.
unidentified
They usually suck ass.
joe rogan
It does.
It sucks ass.
They suck hard.
unidentified
Oh, the new Ustream lets me record to the computer, so we're good.
We just can't do it live, maybe, so we can upload the video on Vimeo.
joe rogan
We can't do it.
What?
What do you mean we can't do it live?
brian redban
No, I mean if we're at a hotel that the internet sucks, the new Ustream lets you record to your computer and then go back and upload it later.
joe rogan
What?
For real?
unidentified
Yeah, for real.
So we can do private shows whenever we want to.
joe rogan
Is this some new shit?
unidentified
Yeah, new shit.
joe rogan
When did this happen?
unidentified
About a month ago.
joe rogan
And what is this Vimeo thing?
You got some shit up on Vimeo, son?
unidentified
It's like YouTube.
joe rogan
Yeah, son.
Brad Hunstable.
Thanks a lot, buddy.
He's the fucking big maha over at the president and founder of Ustream.
And he puts our shit online.
Good guy.
He's a very good guy.
He listens to the podcast.
unidentified
Good people at Ustream.
joe rogan
Yeah, good people Ustreaming.
I like Stitcher.
Oh, I'm going to go on the Nerdist podcast too, for sure.
I'm going to do that as well.
Chris Hardwick's a buddy, and I ran into him at the airport recently.
And people say, like, you guys got in the best Twitter argument ever because you, like, solved it, like, so, like, civilly and everybody was so cool.
It wasn't really an argument, you know?
I mean, he doesn't like the Stitcher thing, and I understand his point, and I like it.
And he...
unidentified
Whatever.
joe rogan
The fucking show's over.
duncan trussell
I like Stitcher, too.
joe rogan
Duncan, anything else?
We all love Stitcher.
duncan trussell
I love Stitcher.
joe rogan
Oh, I'm sorry.
The Lavender Hour.
You can get the Lavender Hour, which is Duncan and his lovely better half, Natasha Leggero.
unidentified
New show's on tonight.
joe rogan
Also a fabulous stand-up comedian as well.
duncan trussell
Yeah, and her show Free Agents is on right now.
Probably it's on tonight, so watch it on NBC. He missed the premiere to be here.
Tune in.
And I'll be in Seattle next Thursday, too, if anyone's out there.
joe rogan
Yeah, in Seattle.
duncan trussell
Chop Suey.
joe rogan
All right.
Duncan Trussell on Twitter.
Again, it's D-U-N-C-A-N-T-R-U-S-S-E-L-L. Two S's, two L's.
In case you're worried, I can't stop talking.
I got verbal diarrhea.
This fucking show's over.
unidentified
Bye.
joe rogan
You know we love you.
Just shut the fuck up.
Stop with your negative bullshit.
You know I love you.
All right.
unidentified
Bye.
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