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Aug. 24, 2011 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #133 - Charlie Murphy & Freeze Love

Charlie Murphy and Freeze Love—Navy and Army veterans—debate military desensitization to violence, from Guantanamo Bay’s shoot-to-kill policies to Cold War-era Berlin tanks, while Charlie defends his upcoming dark comedy for Paramount about ex-pimps evading a serial killer after a $1M heist in 1979. They critique Johnny Gill’s fight claims and overbuilt MMA athletes like Anderson Silva, then pivot to cancer’s mysteries, citing Steve Jobs’ illness and unresolved grudges as potential health triggers. Charlie’s new TV show My Bad (with Terry Crews) reenacts apologies for past misdeeds, including a joke about Rogan hosting controversial open mic acts like Peter Chen. Parenting struggles, Dave Chappelle’s rumored internet work, and Rogan’s September 30th (Warner Theater) and October 7th (Verizon Center) podcast dates wrap up the chaotic, insightful conversation blending military grit, comedy, and life’s unpredictabilities. [Automatically generated summary]

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charlie murphy
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freeze love
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joe rogan
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brian redban
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brian redban
Recording.
joe rogan
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Oh yeah.
That's right.
I said it.
Charlie Murphy's here, bitches.
Buckle up.
charlie murphy
Buckle up!
joe rogan
It doesn't feel legit until the music kicks in.
brian redban
That was voiceless, too.
joe rogan
Charlie Murphy and Freeze Love.
And Rich.
Charlie doesn't fuck around.
He brings a whole fucking posse to your house, dude.
I like it.
charlie murphy
I bought the whole camp.
joe rogan
Freeze Love is my friend from the old days of the Comedy Store.
I've known Freeze for, fuck, like a decade now.
freeze love
Yeah, if not longer.
joe rogan
If not longer.
freeze love
Probably about 15 years.
joe rogan
It's been a long time, man.
charlie murphy
You've been having a lot of reunions this week.
freeze love
I have, man.
It's been a good week.
joe rogan
What's going on?
freeze love
Well, I've been in New York.
I've been in New York for like almost eight, nine years now, so it's my first time back in New York and around the town.
joe rogan
Back in L.A., yeah.
freeze love
Usually we go way out in Ontario, you know, out there, but we're in Hollywood.
charlie murphy
Right.
freeze love
So a lot of people are like...
I thought you were dead!
joe rogan
So you guys have been doing a lot of touring, right?
charlie murphy
Oh yeah, man.
All over the country, outside of the country.
In fact, we're getting ready to go back to Europe again in October.
joe rogan
Oh yeah?
charlie murphy
And then I'm doing a show down in Guantanamo Bay.
That's going to be big.
That's probably where I'm going to film my next one hour special.
joe rogan
Really?
Guantanamo Bay, huh?
charlie murphy
Yeah, Charlie Murphy Library, Guantanamo Bay.
joe rogan
Holy shit, so it'll be 100% soldiers?
charlie murphy
100% soldiers, yeah.
joe rogan
Whoa!
charlie murphy
Go hard, real big.
joe rogan
Will they let you talk about whatever you want?
charlie murphy
As far as we know, yeah, man.
I mean, I was like, you know, when I come down there, I'm not pulling no punches.
They was like, well, no problem.
joe rogan
Well, there was a great story that Louis C.K. wrote on his blog about going overseas to entertain the troops and how enthusiastic the troops are and how good it felt and everything.
But he said he kept getting in trouble with the shit.
He just couldn't help himself.
charlie murphy
Oh, with the higher-ups?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, because they wanted him to be fairly clean.
And he would just go dirty.
Because he knew that's what they wanted to hear.
charlie murphy
That's right, man.
And after the show, if the general shows up and he had a problem, I'm like, well, I'm not in the army, so fuck you.
Keep it moving.
joe rogan
Some scary people you're dealing with, man.
freeze love
We're both veterans, man.
charlie murphy
That's right, man.
freeze love
You had your chance to get us.
joe rogan
That's right.
charlie murphy
I'm not doing push-ups for you.
I'm going to come do my show and whoever don't like it.
joe rogan
You guys were both in the military?
charlie murphy
Yeah, man.
I was in the Navy.
He was in the Army.
joe rogan
It's a different breed, man.
People have been in the military.
Your eyes are more open.
People have been in the military are like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
This is for real.
This shit's for keeps.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Everybody out there running around playing doctor.
You want to know how the world really works?
charlie murphy
Even when they show on the news and they show live footage of a firefight on the news, if you was never in the military, you was never around a real firefight, That's not the same thing as being there.
What you see on the news, it has an effect on you definitely, but being there when it's going on has a different effect.
joe rogan
100% different.
People get desensitized to seeing shit.
charlie murphy
Exactly.
You get desensitized when you stand there.
joe rogan
And bullets are flying by you.
You realize this could be it right now.
This could be it at any moment.
freeze love
That's right.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's a different breed, man.
People who've been involved in the military are a completely different breed.
That's a hard way to live, man.
And for a lot of people, there's not a lot of fucking options in this country, you know?
freeze love
Yeah.
joe rogan
A lot of dudes who jump in there.
charlie murphy
Let me tell you something, man.
If you ain't got nothing going on, it's not a bad choice, point blank.
If you ain't really doing nothing, if you're sitting around going, well, that's a hard life, I don't want to do that, and you're not doing anything, you need to do that.
freeze love
It's better than doing nothing.
joe rogan
Yeah.
charlie murphy
That's where I went, Joe, because I would have ended up doing nothing.
I was just sitting at the house getting in trouble.
joe rogan
Really?
charlie murphy
Yeah, nothing was going to work in the house.
It was like, oh, go to the military.
And I got it together.
So if you're not doing nothing, then that's where you need to go.
joe rogan
Well, men definitely need some form of discipline.
charlie murphy
Definitely.
We do.
joe rogan
We need some form of discipline.
We need something to shock us out of our complacency and get us moving.
We need something.
freeze love
That's true.
charlie murphy
Boot camps should be mandatory for every male once you turn 18, whether you go to the military or not.
joe rogan
I think you're right.
charlie murphy
The boot camp experience.
You know, you should go somewhere and, you know...
freeze love
Yeah, you should be somewhere where...
charlie murphy
Because you're going to learn to take something home with that, you know?
freeze love
You get in a situation where people that do not...
Love you.
Have complete control over your life.
That's a good understanding of life.
These are people, they don't care about your feelings.
charlie murphy
They don't care.
freeze love
It doesn't matter.
And you're going to do what they say do.
And if you don't, the repercussions, they're a lot like life.
You're going to be in a bad situation.
charlie murphy
So in the long run, you come out strong.
You don't trip out over stuff like other people.
joe rogan
It's just fascinating that we like to pretend that our society is any more evolved than the Romans or than the Greeks.
And then you really feel like what the military really is.
It's just our hired army.
charlie murphy
Exactly.
joe rogan
The people we pay to go fuck people up.
charlie murphy
That's right.
Keep it smooth over here.
joe rogan
Keep it smooth over here.
No, no, no.
Everything over there.
charlie murphy
Tear it up.
joe rogan
Which is...
charlie murphy
Tear it up.
joe rogan
Crazy.
That's...
charlie murphy
That's going to always be the situation on the planet.
You got...
As long as you got people in different countries and all that stuff, you're going to have competition for resources.
You got to have army.
joe rogan
I know, but we don't have any idea what it must feel like to be invaded.
That's got to be some trippy shit.
Could you imagine if you were living in Afghanistan, for say?
You know, Afghanistan is a fairly rural place.
It's a very strange country.
There's only one real city.
Kabul's the real city.
Everything else is all these territories run by warlords.
It's very strange.
And if all of a sudden...
Tanks show up, giant metal tanks and fucking jets flying overhead.
And you're like, what the fuck?
You're just out there with your goats and your bitches trying to keep everything down.
freeze love
Yeah, that would be a...
joe rogan
And all of a sudden there's American troops, tanks and guns and helicopters.
charlie murphy
I think it's even more scary to imagine that happening here, period.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
charlie murphy
At my house.
joe rogan
Of course.
charlie murphy
That's the way I can identify with the fear of it happening at my house.
But if I look at it on my block and I've seen tanks coming up the block and all that, that would be really, you know...
joe rogan
Well, we like to pretend that we're the peak of civilization, right?
But we're doing that to somebody else.
The peak, you know, there easily could be an advanced race above, you know, or an advanced country, rather, above this one.
There could be some new military power that all of a sudden starts taking over, and we could be in the same situation that, you know, other countries are as opposed to us.
charlie murphy
Oh, yeah, that could happen.
joe rogan
That most definitely could happen.
I mean, things switch over time.
It might not be something instantaneous, but in a few months or a few years' time, it could get all fucked up.
freeze love
I'm going to tell you, my service, I was in Berlin.
And this was like in 1985, 86. This was all before the wall had come down.
And we were literally stationed in the heart of Berlin.
And Berlin is like Manhattan of Europe.
So we would have tanks rolling down city streets, right past city buses.
joe rogan
God damn!
freeze love
And it felt weird.
It felt weird.
But...
joe rogan
How did the people respond to it?
freeze love
They were desensitized.
That's been that way since they put the wall up in 61 or 62, whenever it was.
So they were used to it.
But even for me, I never got used to that.
I was always weird.
unidentified
Wow.
charlie murphy
That's one of the things about going out of Guantanamo.
They have that wall there too.
When I was in the Navy, I went to Gitmo.
So when I go back to perform down there, it's not going to be my first time there.
But they have that wall there with the soldiers on the wall.
And they tell you, if you approach that gate or if you try to go through it, They shoot the kill.
And it's from both sides.
If you try to come into the U.S., they shoot and kill them.
If you try to go into Cuba, they shoot and kill them.
joe rogan
Isn't it fucked up that that's cool, that we allow that?
There's some Area 51 spot where if you cross the line, there's a certain line where you get too close to Area 51. They're just allowed to shoot you.
Crossing The Line 00:15:38
joe rogan
Yeah, it's like, once you cross this line...
charlie murphy
We don't have to explain nothing.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Like, what the fuck?
What kind of ridiculous rule is that?
That's so ridiculous that the people that are in charge of the government would allow something like that.
You can just shoot someone who's driving.
And you don't have to explain shit.
you know national security you might think about it what's what's behind what's over there in area 51 you might be like if you knew what it was you would be like listen they gotta shoot anyone that comes in here i've always wondered whether or not i always wondered whether or not it's really alien shit or whether it's just secret government projects you know Everybody claims alien shit, but if you don't know what the fuck they're capable of, and you think it's one thing but it really is far more advanced, you'd probably think it was alien.
And then the rumors get spread, and if you're some scientist that thinks he's a bad motherfucker, but meanwhile there's some Russians that figured out some shit that nobody else has, and we've got their information, and it's in a hangar somewhere in the desert, you'd stumble upon that, you'd probably think that's alien.
You'd probably think, where's this coming from?
Oh my god.
charlie murphy
I think if you mean a fully realized human being, you'd think it's an alien.
Because most people are not...
You know what I'm saying?
We don't use our whole brain, bro.
joe rogan
We don't?
charlie murphy
Nah.
unidentified
We don't.
charlie murphy
We're the only species on the planet that don't.
We only use 10% of our brain.
As far as the brain capacity...
We only use 10% of ours.
Why?
freeze love
Why?
charlie murphy
How come elephants use 100% of theirs and they're elephants?
They can't drive cars, but we use 10% of ours and we do all this technical stuff.
joe rogan
I think that's urban myth.
charlie murphy
Nah, man.
We only use 10%.
I've seen it.
I'm pretty sure.
joe rogan
I saw that debunked.
charlie murphy
You saw that debunked?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
charlie murphy
He's looking it up right now.
He's looking it up.
freeze love
Yeah, because I want to know this.
charlie murphy
I've heard that before.
joe rogan
I heard it too.
charlie murphy
We don't use 10% of our brain.
We don't use our...
We don't use our entire capacity.
We don't.
Why not?
You know what I'm saying?
Or is it being controlled?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a myth.
charlie murphy
If anything, it's being...
freeze love
Oh, they say it's a myth?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a myth.
Yeah, we talked about this on the podcast once before because I had heard someone else say it, too.
It's a misquote of Albert Einstein or the misinterpretation of the work of Pierre Florens.
charlie murphy
So Charlie Murphy just misquoted Einstein and Pierre who?
joe rogan
Florens.
charlie murphy
Florens.
joe rogan
It's one of those things that everybody says.
charlie murphy
I graduated from Roosevelt Junior Senior High School, so...
That's the end of my story.
joe rogan
Newton South, Class of 85. No, I think a lot of people think this.
People say this all the time.
charlie murphy
So we use 100% of our brain?
joe rogan
I don't think they understand it that way.
I think we know what areas of the mind are stimulated during certain activities.
We can monitor the mind.
But there's a lot of what is the consciousness.
Where is the consciousness stored?
unidentified
Like, for instance, when you see a person that has psychic ability, right?
When I see them?
charlie murphy
Do you think that that person is special or that they just tap into something that we all have but we don't all use it?
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
I think most psychics are full of shit.
Most of them.
charlie murphy
Not all of them, though.
joe rogan
I'll leave room.
charlie murphy
That's what I'm saying.
When you see somebody like Michael Jordan, the way he took basketball...
joe rogan
He was the psychic?
charlie murphy
No, I'm saying he tapped into something...
He tapped into something that nobody else tapped into as far as playing the game was concerned yet.
joe rogan
He took it to the highest level.
charlie murphy
Yeah, he took it to the highest level.
Does that mean that nobody else can do that but him or just that nobody else tapped into what, you know?
joe rogan
Well, there's also freaks.
You know, there's freaks.
Like, you know, just like John Holmes had a big giant dick, that's abnormal.
He's got this abnormal dick.
freeze love
In your world.
joe rogan
In my world, yes.
Who's a good Lexington Steel?
Is that a better example?
He's a black guy with a giant dick.
Okay, that's an unusual organ.
Who's to say that there aren't brains capable of being hyper-powered like that?
Some guy's got a fucking 20-inch dick brain, you know?
And that's what it is.
unidentified
That's what I'm saying.
charlie murphy
If he has a 20-inch dick brain, then he's fully realized.
To us, he would seem like an alien.
Like, this guy's so smart.
You see that guy that was on the news?
He was doing all these different mathematical solutions at one time.
He was talking to like 15 people and he was telling them the day they were born through asking them math questions.
The day that their children were born.
He was answering questions about their life with math.
He had a whole room full of people.
There's one guy in the world that does that.
But then I have to go, what is he tapping into that allows him to do that?
And it's all manipulation of mathematics.
freeze love
Wow.
His grasp on understanding mathematics.
charlie murphy
He could do like a thousand mathematical joints at one time.
unidentified
Wow.
charlie murphy
You go on one plus one is two, three times six is...
Jesus Christ.
While you're doing that, he's doing 15, 20 of them at the same time.
joe rogan
Have you ever seen those dudes play chess where they play 10 games at a time and they'll walk up and down the table and play these people?
charlie murphy
I got beat by one of those guys.
That felt horrible.
joe rogan
Really?
charlie murphy
Horrible.
I felt like an idiot.
joe rogan
That's amazing.
charlie murphy
When I was in the Navy, this dude took the entire mess deck, like 45 guys, chess boards in front of us.
Oh, my God.
And he started at the first guy and he walked to the last one.
And when he walked back, he did maybe three laps.
Which means he beat everybody in that room in three or four moves.
He took everybody out quick, man.
But this guy couldn't tie his shoes, though.
brian redban
Oh, really?
charlie murphy
Yeah, he had to wear loafers.
He never could master tying his shoes.
freeze love
What?
joe rogan
For real?
charlie murphy
Yeah, they call it an idiot savant.
freeze love
It's like that other guy.
charlie murphy
He was a weapons officer, man.
He was real smart with stuff like that when we came to common sense things.
joe rogan
Wow.
That's interesting, man.
Yeah, life balances itself out in one way or another.
Somehow it balances...
You don't get to be super intelligent and be cool.
freeze love
Right.
They got this one guy that's got these real thick...
I mean, super-duper thick Coke bottle glasses.
joe rogan
Right.
freeze love
And what he does is he looks at, they took a picture of the New York skyline, a 360 picture of the New York skyline, and they showed him the pictures, and he's got the pictures all up close to his eyes, to these thick glasses, and then he walks into a room, and he paints!
With a pencil, he draws the whole skyline exactly to a T from memory.
joe rogan
That's the kid that can look out the window.
Yeah, we've talked about this kid before.
He can look out a window of a plane and see a city and then draw that exact image.
freeze love
Oh, wow.
charlie murphy
Right.
joe rogan
It's incredible.
charlie murphy
That's what I'm saying.
And they're using the same muscle we use, the brain.
joe rogan
I think when you see something like that, you've got to say, okay, clearly there's levels of potential that haven't been tapped.
And if we're evolving, and we think we are, right?
We think at one point in time we're some lower primate and we evolved to become human, we're not going to stay this.
We're going to get something else.
And when you see these savants, you see these people with crazy abilities, what that represents to me is potential.
This is a potential performance of the human body.
It's just not working in all of us yet.
But if this guy can do it, yeah, yeah, he shits himself, and yeah, yeah, he can't fucking watch TV without screaming and running into the walls, but he can still take a picture with his mind and draw, and you can't do that.
If you could do that, too, and all the other stuff you do.
charlie murphy
Wow.
freeze love
Right.
So that's when we've evolved.
Because, I mean, if I had to take a choice, I think I'd rather just not be able to draw and not shit my pants on myself.
joe rogan
I would say that, too.
I would go with that, too.
Yeah, I don't want to be some...
Extreme example that's crying all the time.
Some extreme example that can't get my shit together.
freeze love
Listen to him play the violin.
charlie murphy
Just keep doing these problems, Paul.
joe rogan
Becoming the best at something, at anything, and trying to become the best, you risk becoming a fucking mad person.
You risk becoming a crazy person.
charlie murphy
Definitely.
joe rogan
To get out there, to really get out there, to hit the highest highs, you almost have to just be fucking nuts.
You almost have to just let it all go.
You almost have to be just willing to go to places that other people won't go quicker than they're willing to go, harder, with more discipline, further, further, further.
And as you're doing that, man, you separate from humans.
You get so wrapped up in trying to accomplish something, and you become crazy.
You know, I've seen it happen.
I've seen people go crazy.
freeze love
We've seen people on the sport.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian redban
He shot lasers at me the other day.
freeze love
Really?
joe rogan
For the folks who don't know, Robert William Apperville is a comedy store legend.
He's a dude who used to hang around the comedy store, and he was always wearing plastic bags and stuff.
He was kind of homeless.
And he would have all these one-liners about weed.
He knew all this information about weed.
His whole act was about weed.
freeze love
Everything.
I mean...
Like, if you want to grow 35 plants, then you need to have 35 clones, but you have to catch them at the right month, and you would know everything.
brian redban
Yeah, but he bought a new suit recently, though, so things are on the ups and ups with him.
joe rogan
I'm glad he's alive.
charlie murphy
Pharmaceuticals, baby.
joe rogan
He was always very friendly.
I've never shaken his hand, but we've always been very cordial and friendly with each other because he won't touch people.
He won't touch people.
I tried to give him knuckles once.
I prefer not to do that.
freeze love
I prefer not to.
joe rogan
I prefer not to do that.
So he doesn't like being touched, the poor guy.
You can only speculate as to what the fuck that's all about.
If someone doesn't like being touched, who doesn't like a good hug every now and then?
freeze love
Again, this was a guy who wanted to be a comedian so desperately.
He just put himself in the comedy world.
I don't know if he was ever funny, but...
joe rogan
He made me laugh a few times.
They were silly.
He had some silly one-liners that were funny.
brian redban
Maybe he was molested by a fellow comic.
joe rogan
Maybe.
unidentified
Maybe he won't give up the knuckles.
charlie murphy
Nasty.
brian redban
Did you ever look at fake big dick black porn?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
brian redban
Where it's like, yeah, this is a real dick.
joe rogan
They have artificial dicks and they don't pull them out.
They keep them in their pants and they just pull out this fake dick like, yeah, that's my dick.
And it doesn't even look real at all, man.
charlie murphy
It's ridiculous.
unidentified
What do they do?
freeze love
Is it parties?
joe rogan
No, they just do it.
This guy makes films.
He makes videos.
But it's a fake dick.
brian redban
And you could buy it, too.
So if you want to have a fake big black dick Nah.
joe rogan
It's so ridiculous.
I mean, his special effects budget is very minimal.
Because this dude doesn't even take his pants off.
He's just got this fake dick poking out of his zipper hole.
unidentified
We just met a guy like that down in West Palm.
charlie murphy
It was a dude named Jab Time Boogie.
joe rogan
Jab Time Boogie.
unidentified
I brushed the hairs up on my chest.
freeze love
We met this guy.
charlie murphy
He came to the show.
And he said he wanted to do 10 minutes, which I always let any comedians that are local come and do some time.
joe rogan
You should never say that on the internet.
charlie murphy
Well, I said it, man.
joe rogan
I said it.
charlie murphy
You better get busy, because if you don't, you know what's going to happen.
joe rogan
That's beautiful.
You let anybody do 10 minutes.
charlie murphy
Anywhere.
Everywhere I've been, dudes come up to me and say, yo, man, I'm struggling, trying to get it cracking.
joe rogan
Wow.
And you let them go up and do 10 minutes?
charlie murphy
Yeah.
And sometimes...
joe rogan
Charlie Murphy, you're a fucking beautiful person.
charlie murphy
Sometimes it's to the audience's chagrin because, you know...
joe rogan
Sometimes it's terrible.
charlie murphy
Yeah, wow.
This dude came up.
He had the fake dick going around his knee.
freeze love
Like a polka kielboska sausage.
charlie murphy
He looked like his dick wrapped around his knee.
freeze love
Wrapped around his leg.
unidentified
Ha, ha, ha.
joe rogan
Was that part of his act?
charlie murphy
That was part of his act.
He came up, he was primarily displaying his fake dick, and I was sitting in the back going, wow, you know, we can say what we want, but that is show business.
joe rogan
That is show business.
charlie murphy
He's on the stage.
There's a light on him and people are looking at him.
unidentified
He had everyone's attention for about two minutes.
charlie murphy
I don't care what you want to say about it.
That's show business.
Therefore, that could be you.
That could be you.
So consider yourself fortunate that you don't have to put on a fake dick.
Stand in front of a crowd to get paid.
freeze love
Sing songs about your chest hair.
charlie murphy
Yeah, you know?
That's a hell of a way to make a living.
joe rogan
Do you ever have a hard time getting...
charlie murphy
Except being in the military is hard as shit.
joe rogan
That's hard.
Do you ever have a hard time getting the guys off stage where they don't want to just do 10 minutes, they want to keep going?
charlie murphy
That dude wanted to stay on.
He thought he was killing them.
Everyone was looking at him like, yo, what are you...
What is this about?
freeze love
Okay, joke's over.
Come on, let's do it.
charlie murphy
I was like, y'all think you better like him?
He's...
He was bugging, man.
joe rogan
You took the craziest path into comedy ever, man, and I always admire you for doing that.
When we met, Charlie and I did this thing, the Maxim Comedy Tour.
It was Charlie, me, and Johnny Heffron, and we had a great fucking time.
charlie murphy
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
And we got to become friends, but I... I was always impressed that you were an actor, essentially, when you went on Chappelle's show.
You were just a guy who was really good at telling stories and a really good actor and the brother of the most famous stand-up comedian possibly of all time.
And you just jumped right into headlining, man.
charlie murphy
You just jumped right in.
joe rogan
That takes some crazy balls.
I think about when I first started doing stand-up, if someone said, okay, now you're going to do 45 minutes, I would have just shit all over myself.
You just went right in.
You never had a moment where you were like Charlie Murphy, the middle act, who toured the country and tried to do little gigs.
You just went right into the fucking flame, which is really hard to do.
freeze love
And said, and I'm going to have Freeze Love as my opener.
joe rogan
Yeah.
freeze love
And told me, don't hold back.
Do you.
charlie murphy
My attitude has always been, because of the age I was when I started doing stand-up, I was like, you don't got time for all that.
joe rogan
You were already a man.
charlie murphy
You don't have time to be opening for people.
You don't have time, but you got to show up with something to say.
Do you have something to say?
Okay, if you have something to say, let's go iron it out and make it happen, you know?
If not, leave it alone.
joe rogan
You had evolved the philosophy by the time you ever got on stage.
When I first got on stage, I was 21. I was an idiot.
I didn't know shit.
I had no business telling anybody anything about anything.
So I would just talk about pussy.
I would just tell sex jokes.
I mean, that was like my whole act.
charlie murphy
The first time I got on stage and did a show and got paid for it, I probably got paid way more money than I deserved.
But once I tasted the money...
There's no way somebody's telling me I can't go back up on that stage again.
Yeah, man.
I was like, I'll do whatever I have to do to stay up there.
I was telling people in the audience, look, man, you don't understand.
I'm going to beat you up for real.
I'm really going to bust the mic stand on your face.
You better let it go because I'm not giving this job up.
And I stayed with it, man.
joe rogan
How old were you when you first got on stage?
charlie murphy
42. Wow.
Yeah.
Wow.
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joe rogan
So what was that like, man?
What a giant shift in your life.
Huge.
charlie murphy
It was huge.
joe rogan
And touring all over the fucking country, constantly performing.
charlie murphy
For the first two years, I didn't believe that it was real.
It was like, okay, they're being courteous to you because they like you on the Chappelle show, and they're not booing you or nothing, so go get this money and have fun.
But don't take it serious because at any moment, it's going to disappear.
You know what I'm saying?
But then that didn't happen and it became a responsibility.
Like, okay, it's not disappearing.
It's your responsibility to take this as far as you can.
joe rogan
Wow, that's a weird way of thinking about it.
So why did you think that it was going to go away?
charlie murphy
Was it because it was too good to be true?
It was too good to be true, man.
Yeah, it was too good to be true.
Me going into the room and standing on the stage for, at that time, 15-20 minutes and getting 5 grand, 10 grams.
What?
For talking?
Too good to be, about whatever I want to talk about?
Come on, man.
It wasn't like somebody said, you have to do, in acting, we give you a script, a part, we have to deliver this guy to the audience.
Not you.
Stand up is you.
So that was too good to be true.
I was like, what, man?
Come on, man.
joe rogan
What's the hardest part about starting that late?
Is it that you're already set in your ways and you've got to shift your whole life around because now you're a stand-up comic?
charlie murphy
No, the hardest part about starting out that late for me was that I had...
Most comedians that were my age, I'm 52 years old now.
Most comedians that were my age had a lot of fans their age.
You know what I'm saying?
I have fans my age, but I have also a lot of fans that are 21, 18. And now because of the new show I'm doing with Terry Crews, are we there yet?
Five and six years old again.
A lot of kids are popping up.
joe rogan
Wow.
charlie murphy
So when I started doing stand-up, I was like, who are you talking to?
You can't talk to everybody.
You can't talk to little kids the same way you talk to adults.
And the answer that came back was just be yourself.
And the people who you're supposed to be talking to are going to show up.
The ones who you ain't supposed to be talking to will not come back, you know?
And I've been doing pretty good with that.
I just do me.
That's why I've been able to go all around the world and have had no problem because when we get there, I'm not struggling with, oh, I'm in Stockholm now, so how am I going to...
No, I'm in Stockholm, so you're going to get the same thing in Stockholm that you're going to get in Hollywood or that you would get in New York, you know?
joe rogan
Yeah.
charlie murphy
Me.
And that's it.
That's all I can deliver.
joe rogan
It's me.
There's something beautiful about that.
That's a wisdom and an approach when you're 42 that you don't necessarily have when you're 21. When you're 21 and you first start out doing stand-up, you really shouldn't be talking.
You should be listening.
freeze love
Your point of view is really irrelevant.
joe rogan
Yeah, you should be listening.
charlie murphy
Oh, when you start talking about relationships and all that stuff at 21, it's like, stop it, man.
You only had one relationship.
freeze love
Let me tell you how to raise a family.
charlie murphy
The difference between black folks and white folks.
You're how old again?
Yeah, exactly.
All that kind of stuff, you know.
I think the fact that I was a man when I started, I was already a full-grown man, helped me out a lot, too.
joe rogan
Yeah, because stand-up ultimately becomes about your point of view.
It becomes, you know, you breaking down, this is, I've been alive for X amount of years, this is how I see it.
Boom.
You know, that's what your stand-up eventually becomes.
You know, eventually, and you're already there.
You already had so much life experience to jump in at 42. Yeah.
charlie murphy
Oh yeah, man.
And then have the nerve to, because it's courage, the courage to stand in and tell people.
Because I think it's funny.
I'm going to hit you with it.
Boom!
Now, we all know as comedians that sometimes you don't get that explosion.
You don't want that not to happen, but it's a possibility.
But that's the risk we got to take, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, bombing sucks.
charlie murphy
Bombing sucks.
freeze love
It's part of the program.
charlie murphy
It's what makes you sharp, though.
The fear of it.
joe rogan
It's what keeps you sharp.
It's much harder.
charlie murphy
We're out here right now doing my first TV show.
I'm the star of the show.
We're in the midst of doing it right now.
And we're going to be out here for six weeks.
joe rogan
And what is it?
charlie murphy
Charlie Murphy's Law.
Charlie Murphy's Law.
It's me as a judge.
People think of Judge Mathis or whatever.
But imagine Judge Mathis when he goes home.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
charlie murphy
And he has, you know Judge Matthews' background, he's a dude from the street.
joe rogan
Right.
charlie murphy
Because he adopted this kid that's a bad kid.
So he's trying to mentor this kid.
It's kind of like the courtship of Eddie's father.
Your son is not soft.
Your son is really a problem.
Every week there's going to be some drama with this kid where I'm going to have to really, you know what I'm saying, be dad.
joe rogan
You're going to have to knuckle up.
charlie murphy
He's not Theo.
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
He's a real kid.
charlie murphy
He's a real kid, man.
He's like what most people are dealing with.
joe rogan
Right, right, right.
charlie murphy
But he's funny, you know?
So if you mix the two things about Night Court and that blended together, that's what the gist of the show is.
It's going to be me and Night Court.
It's going to be funny stuff in the courtroom scenes or whatever.
But it's going to be mainly about me and my relationship with my adopted son.
brian redban
I hope you look into Judge Mathis as your inspiration because I love Judge Mathis.
charlie murphy
Judge Mathis is raw, man.
brian redban
He's the fucking bomb.
charlie murphy
I love Judge Mathis.
joe rogan
Isn't it weird how we like watching other people go to court?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
How weird is that, man?
We like watching other people go to court.
freeze love
Other people.
joe rogan
We like other people to be up there and go, oh, you're fucked now, dude.
freeze love
I can't believe he said that.
joe rogan
This motherfucker doesn't even have receipts.
freeze love
You're right.
No receipts?
Why'd you even come, sir?
unidentified
Shut up.
charlie murphy
Shut up.
joe rogan
Why do we like that?
Why do we like seeing other people fuck up?
freeze love
Yeah.
I think it keeps us on your toes.
It keeps me on my toes.
joe rogan
I think it's just a nice distraction.
You concentrate on their problems so you don't have to think about your own.
You've got some new thing to occupy your mind.
freeze love
Yeah, this is true.
brian redban
I consider Judge Mathis like school, though.
It teaches me what not to do, just like I do with cops.
Okay, what does it teach you what not to do?
If I were to murder somebody, I know not to do this and that.
unidentified
Judge Mathis has begging skills, so that's why I like it.
freeze love
Yeah, Judge Mathis.
charlie murphy
He has professional bagging skills.
I wouldn't start no type of...
freeze love
He can shut you down.
He's quick with it.
charlie murphy
He's quick with it.
And he says some bone-crushing shit, man.
I'm telling you.
I was in the radio station with him.
I'm not going to learn his jokes back, but he really tore that...
What was that DJ's name?
freeze love
I don't know.
charlie murphy
That guy started it.
He came in and started.
He thought he had two, you know, schleps in the room.
He came...
First, he started with Paul.
He didn't know Paul was a comedian.
freeze love
And he made...
charlie murphy
And he made freeze...
He actually freezed after about 10 minutes.
He said, Hey...
Are you a professional comedian?
Because the room was, like, glasses were knocked over and everything.
People were laughing at him.
He came in the room and started it and got blowed out.
freeze love
He looked like a tall Gary Coleman.
charlie murphy
Right.
That's what freeze stuck to that whole theme, the Gary Coleman theme.
This dude was about this tall.
Looked just like Gary.
Ripped him in the room.
And then we went into the booth, the actual room, to do the interview.
Judge Mathis is in there.
So the guy just finished getting embarrassed.
By freeze, he wants to redeem himself.
He says something to Judge Mathis.
And then Judge Mathis took it to the next level.
It was like they played a relay race with that guy.
freeze love
Like ping pong, what is it?
charlie murphy
He had him freeze-hailing him off to Judge Mathis.
joe rogan
And what did Judge Mathis say?
charlie murphy
He destroyed him.
He destroyed him.
What did he say?
freeze love
He said, first of all, climb up out of that hole when you talk to me.
- That's what we told the dude.
unidentified
Wow.
freeze love
I mean, the dude was...
joe rogan
There's a judge talking shit to you?
charlie murphy
Yeah.
And at one point, my man said something about downtown L.A. Oh, yeah.
He said something about transvestites.
And the dude said, yeah, yeah, Judge Matthews.
I know you want to go down there and see all them transvestites.
Judge Matthews said, yeah, yeah.
I do want to go down there so I could watch you stand up and suck dick.
And this dude was like real short.
joe rogan
The judge said that?
charlie murphy
Judge Matthews.
joe rogan
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
unidentified
Are you throwing him under the bus right now?
joe rogan
Is this information that can get him?
brian redban
He's real, man.
charlie murphy
Judge Mathis is real, son.
He crushed him.
brian redban
Prison and shit.
That dude's awesome.
charlie murphy
Tell a short dude so I can watch you stand up and suck dick.
That was where the brilliance was.
Okay?
Don't get it twisted.
That's what made me go, Judge Mathis is the real deal.
He hit this dude so hard, man.
The dude shut up.
The rest of the interview, he was scared to talk, man.
He was scared to ask questions.
We was interviewing ourselves after that.
joe rogan
Great moments in criminal history.
charlie murphy
True Hollywood stories with Judge Matthews.
brian redban
I love Judge Matthews.
unidentified
I could watch you stand up and...
joe rogan
I'm supposed to...
charlie murphy
Tommy...
joe rogan
I'm supposed to ask you about Johnny Gill who thought he could beat Oscar De La Hoya.
charlie murphy
Oh yeah, man.
Wow, how'd you know about that?
joe rogan
Somebody told me that.
charlie murphy
Wow, how'd you know about that one, man?
joe rogan
I think it was Tom Segura told me that.
charlie murphy
That was one of the days when...
That's back when Oscar was still fighting, too.
That's what made me really angry.
Oscar was whipping somebody's ass and I'm sitting next to a balladeer.
I respect you.
You're a good singer and all that, but don't point to no fighter and go, I can whip him.
I don't want to hear that, man.
joe rogan
He really said that?
charlie murphy
Vehemently, man.
It jumped up.
The fact that you brought it up, it ain't like I'm snitching.
I told him, if I ever see you and Oscar in the same room, make sure that Oscar knows that you feel that way.
I want to be there.
I'm making sure he knows that you, a balladeer Cronin, Say that you can whip him.
Yeah, man.
To me, that was the highest insult of the highest level, man.
You making money with roses flying in the air and all that?
You going to look at a fighter and talk about how I can whip him?
Come on, man.
He needs to know that.
He needs to know you feel that way.
I did it with Mike Tyson.
You remember when he used to talk shit?
One day we were all together and I said, you know, Mike, this dude told me.
Whip your ass, man.
He tells me all the time.
Why don't you tell Mike what you be telling me?
Watched him turn into Kool-Aid in his chair.
joe rogan
What did he say, Mike?
charlie murphy
He didn't say nothing to Mike.
freeze love
I meant the other Mike Tyson, man.
charlie murphy
He didn't say nothing to Mike.
That was my whole point.
I mean, you probably have encountered it before.
I've been in the hood.
I've been in the barbershop sometime.
And I've got to tell folks, man, they'll be like, yo, man.
Because Mike, you know, Mike, nothing, man.
What do you do?
You work for UPS, right?
Don't bring up Mike's name, son.
Stop it.
Bring up another truck driver.
Because I'll take you out of Gleason's right now and pick out any heavyweight, somebody who you've never seen on TV, and he'll make you call him the greatest.
Stop it, man.
You got a fighter.
You don't do what this guy does.
Respect what he does.
Mess like him jumping behind the wheel of your truck and trying to beat you on your route.
It's not going to happen.
freeze love
I'm going to park this.
charlie murphy
It's not going to happen.
It's not going to happen, man.
joe rogan
It's a weird thing where dudes get delusional about their ability to kick ass.
charlie murphy
It's a weird thing, man.
Yeah, Johnny Gilbert, he really thought he...
Back in the day, I don't know if...
Maybe, you know, he's more mature.
joe rogan
But what did he think?
He just think that Oscar Delahoe was getting lucky?
unidentified
Oscar, he could beat Oscar.
charlie murphy
He felt he was more powerful, faster...
I was like, but you never boxed before.
It has nothing to do with it.
I'm talking about being a man.
I was like, what do you think they're doing, man?
What are you talking about, man?
These boys are just fighting, man.
I'm talking about being a man.
These boys are trying to knock each other's heads off.
joe rogan
Talk about being a man.
That's a dude that doesn't understand what an eight-week camp is like.
An eight-week training camp.
charlie murphy
He was buffed.
I think he was working out with Barry Barnes and he had a little cut-on and everything.
I was like, you know, those muscles don't translate to a win, brother.
It translates to best in show at a bodybuilding contest.
Not that you're gonna win the fight.
And if you look at real fighters, they don't have the chiseled body like G.I. Joe.
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
Look at Anderson Silva.
charlie murphy
Yeah, look at his body look normal, man.
joe rogan
Yeah.
charlie murphy
And look what happens when those dudes come in with the, you know...
The G.I. Joe Kid.
freeze love
The classic ballet stand.
joe rogan
The problem with all that muscle is it needs fuel.
You gotta feed that.
So you're only good for about 30 seconds, 20 seconds of full fury when you're all big like that.
The guy can hang on to you.
It's like riding a bull.
But the bull's like a real bad endurance.
charlie murphy
Then you burn out.
unidentified
You get the big, rough arms, they fill up with blood.
joe rogan
Then they can't move.
charlie murphy
They get heavy.
joe rogan
It's crazy.
You watch, like, there's a guy named Marius Pujanowski, world's strongest man, does those crazy fucking things where they throw the beer bottles in the air and lift up cars and shit, you know, that strongman shit.
He's won it a bunch of times.
And he just started doing MMA. And he gets fucked up by fat dudes.
charlie murphy
He's not throwing a big keg.
He's throwing something with punches and kicks coming off.
joe rogan
Tim Sylvia beat the fuck out of that boy.
He had that dude purple.
That guy was purple as fuck.
Tim Sylvia was like, how dare you?
I was a fucking two-time heavyweight champion.
Or more, maybe.
Either way, he's a fucking world UFC heavyweight champion.
And you think that you can pick up a car so you can kick his ass?
It was like a slow, methodical ass-kicking by an overweight guy, essentially.
The guy with a big gut.
charlie murphy
The car's not moving.
The car's not doing techniques on you.
joe rogan
But if they can get you in those first 15 seconds, you could have a real big fucking problem.
charlie murphy
Because for 15 seconds...
Those guys get street people.
That guy who could throw a car goes to the supermarket and you get an argument.
He could probably throw you across the meat section and...
Take your back or something.
You won't expect it.
Wow, this guy flew me across the meat section.
But you ain't an MMA fighter.
You ain't a boxer.
You ain't whatever.
Any kind of professional athlete, whatever profession he's in, respect it.
Don't disrespect it.
Straight up.
joe rogan
Now you got me thinking about fights in supermarkets.
charlie murphy
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
There's no weight classes in supermarkets.
unidentified
No weight classes.
charlie murphy
I remember a few years ago, this dude was talking about jumping on...
He was one of the running backs.
And I asked him, they were the same size physically.
I was like, you really think you could beat that guy?
He's like, we're the same size.
I said, yeah, but I've seen him run over five guys his size.
I've never seen you run over nothing.
You have a hard time going up the steps.
You want to mess with this boy?
You know what I'm saying?
You're the same size, but you don't need the same thing, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, people don't understand a super athlete.
charlie murphy
That's why we have the ability to buck our eyes.
To express that.
To express that when you get surprised.
Oh, shit!
I didn't mean it.
freeze love
I wasn't practicing.
charlie murphy
Exactly.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can't hang out with dudes that talk shit.
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charlie murphy
Nope.
joe rogan
Talk shit about how they fight Mike Tyson.
Those guys are useless.
charlie murphy
I'm telling you, if you come around me and talk about who you can whip, because a lot of my friends are friends, and I see them in the room, I'm not just letting them know how you feel.
That's how I roll.
joe rogan
That was the funniest fucking moment.
charlie murphy
I'm going to let them know how you feel.
joe rogan
It was me, Brad Blackburn, Maury Smith, and one other...
Oh, Ivan Salivari.
All UFC fighters or kickboxers.
And we're all out at a restaurant.
And Charlie is convincing everybody that...
The ridge hand, that y'all are sleeping on the ridge hand.
And he was talking about the Chicago ridge hand, the different types of ridge hands.
And they were laughing.
They were trying to say, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But Charlie stuck his fucking guns.
charlie murphy
You know who used the ridge hand was the Iceman in one of the very first UFC joints.
My man Chuck Liddell knocked out Yarbrough with a ridge hand.
joe rogan
Chuck Liddell never fought Yarbrough.
charlie murphy
He fought some big game dude.
joe rogan
Keith Hackney fought Yarbrough.
charlie murphy
And I was like, yo.
joe rogan
Yeah, he did though.
He hit him with an open palm strike to the head too.
He hit him with a bunch of different things.
And I was like, yo.
charlie murphy
But I would never use...
freeze love
See, open palm strike.
That even sounds like it's just gonna...
charlie murphy
Yo, but listen though.
Who just executed a beautiful open palm strike?
National television.
We all give a round of applause right now.
The wife of Rupert Murdoch.
Let's give a round of applause.
What happened?
Rupert Murdoch's wife, man.
What happened?
You just see the press conference when Rupert Murdoch was getting interviewed and this dude tried to come in with the pie and hit him from the side and his wife came out with the open-hand palm strike and broke his nose, man.
joe rogan
Whoa!
charlie murphy
His wife is young.
She's not old like him.
She's in her 30s, man.
joe rogan
Look at him.
charlie murphy
She didn't even hesitate.
joe rogan
30-year-old pizza ass.
Fight for him.
freeze love
Break noses for him.
charlie murphy
Broke his nose, man.
joe rogan
Rupert Murdoch, you know, despite of all evil intentions.
unidentified
And she's beautiful.
joe rogan
And she's hot.
He's a bad motherfucker.
charlie murphy
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, that guy's got a lot of power in this world.
charlie murphy
And a beautiful wife that can kick your ass, man.
joe rogan
That's incredible.
charlie murphy
That's what you can say.
You got it all.
You can tell your wife, you go take care of that guy.
She comes over.
That's how she knows martial arts, by the way.
She went straight with the palm here.
Straight.
Right to the nose, man.
brian redban
She beats you up with yoga.
charlie murphy
No, she came with it, man.
joe rogan
What an old school move, though.
Hitting somebody with a pie.
freeze love
What was so funny about the whole thing is not long before that, we were just talking.
We were like, what is the defense with that?
Right.
And Charlie's like, wow, wow.
charlie murphy
Ask Joe first.
freeze love
Okay, let's ask Joe.
charlie murphy
If you was doing something live and somebody did that to you, would you laugh it off?
joe rogan
It really depends.
It depends on if I felt malice from them, if I felt like they hated me, if I felt like they were laughing at me.
charlie murphy
They try to embarrass you.
joe rogan
Yeah, but people try to embarrass people just because they're idiots and they want attention.
It would all depend entirely on the moment, but I would hope that I wouldn't do anything stupid.
charlie murphy
Alright, so I said, my answer was I would whip the person's ass, right?
joe rogan
That's something stupid.
charlie murphy
This is what he pointed out.
He said, remember this, Charlie.
Once the pie is on your face, whatever you do after that, you're doing it with pie on your face.
It makes it instant comedy.
If you whip the guy's ass all over the room, you got pie.
unidentified
To me, it would depend on the pie.
joe rogan
Yeah, it could be delicious pie.
brian redban
It was like, what?
Is that lemon meringue?
Fuck yeah.
Thank you, sir.
unidentified
Are you going to get in the face with lemon meringue pie, son?
joe rogan
It's going to happen.
charlie murphy
I'll whip your ass.
You'll be fighting with pie in your face.
unidentified
You'll be angry.
joe rogan
Just like there's a lot of dummies that will look at a guy like Mike Tyson and really think that they can kick his ass.
There are people that look at a guy like you, like on stage, and they get upset at you for some reason.
They get upset at you for getting that attention.
They get upset at you.
charlie murphy
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
They feel like they should be getting what you have.
charlie murphy
I thank God that every time one of them have stepped up, I had a baseball bat of jokes.
You know, my reaction was always right on time, laser sharp, and they was burnt out of the audience like a cigarette.
But, you know, he's been there to witness it.
And I've been there to witness you doing it.
I think you're one of the best I've ever seen do it.
You inspired me.
When I seen how deep you took it, I was like, well, I could go much harder than I've been going on.
Joe is telling this person, man.
joe rogan
Wow!
charlie murphy
You know what I'm saying?
I see you evaporate people.
That told me that it's something that you definitely got to have as part of your game.
If you're going to be standing up on the stage talking to people, you have to have the ability to do that.
If it comes up, you got to shoot them down and keep it moving.
You can't be haggling with them because that's going to break the whole continuity of the show up.
The guys that can just hit them with the hammer and keep it moving are the best, man.
joe rogan
It's an unfortunate side effect of comedy, but we started out, Freeze and I were fucking comedy store veterans, man, and that was a place that nobody patrolled.
There was no manager shushing the room.
The comedy store was run by the guy on stage, and occasionally dudes got kicked out because the comic would go, just get these fucking people out of here.
God damn!
It would get to the point where you had to kick them out before the show couldn't go on.
But there was always something there.
That place was always drama.
I've had glasses thrown at me on stage there.
It was wild.
Remember when Holtzman got knocked out by Martin Lawrence's bodyguard?
freeze love
We were just talking about that.
joe rogan
God damn.
That place was chaos.
freeze love
I remember Eddie Griffin.
We were in the main room.
We had a show.
It was Martin Luther King's birthday.
And after the show, this was when a DJ came on.
This is the first time I heard the song "No Vaseline" by Ice.
joe rogan
You remember that?
freeze love
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And the DJ played it, and Dr. Dre and all of the dog pound.
joe rogan
And it was about Dr. Dre.
freeze love
Yeah, they were all there.
And Dre went up on stage and snatched the record off the turntable and snapped it in half.
And that kicked off a riot.
Tretch was in there.
Tupac was in there.
Tretch had that big chain with the padlock on it.
He was swinging that over his head.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
freeze love
All of this went on in the main room on Martin Luther King's birthday.
Wow.
I remember that.
joe rogan
Holy shit.
unidentified
That place was fucking crazy, man.
charlie murphy
His last wife, Flynn...
Richard Pryor's last one.
freeze love
Oh, yeah, yeah.
charlie murphy
I've seen the wettest woman out there.
freeze love
At the Comedy Store?
charlie murphy
Comedy Store.
I was in the parking lot.
Richard Pryor was performing that night, and she was standing by the back door, and this other chick came around and was getting ready to come up.
They knew each other, obviously.
She said to that other chick, didn't I tell you not to come to no more than Richard's show?
Every time she hit her, another piece of jewelry came off.
So when she got finished, all of this woman's rings and necklaces and everything and her wig was laying on the floor.
freeze love
Wow.
charlie murphy
And they was dragging her away, man.
And then Richard Pryor went on stage and did 20 minutes on what just happened.
unidentified
Classics, man.
charlie murphy
Took it straight to the stage.
joe rogan
He went right on the stage with it?
charlie murphy
Took it straight to the stage.
unidentified
Oh, man.
joe rogan
What year was this?
charlie murphy
That had to be in the 80s, man.
You know, like, 89, 90, something like that.
joe rogan
Could you imagine if you fucking videotaped that?
charlie murphy
It was a long time ago.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Could you imagine if you had a videotape of that?
charlie murphy
No one was expecting that.
That was, like, on the moment.
She said, didn't I tell you nothing to come to them one of the richest shows?
joe rogan
How beautiful would that video be?
To watch that, watch the ass kicking, to Pryor walking on stage, to Pryor talking about the ass kicking.
freeze love
The pre-show, you don't want to miss it.
unidentified
I performed with...
charlie murphy
He did 20 minutes on just having outside.
joe rogan
I performed with Richard Pryor for a few weeks, right at the end, right when he stopped performing.
When he was in a wheelchair, remember they used to carry him on stage?
freeze love
Yeah, in the OR room.
joe rogan
I had to go on after him for weeks, for weeks when he did that.
That was the only spot Mitzi always gave me, right after Richard Pryor.
freeze love
Why are you going after Richard, Joe?
joe rogan
You would eat dick like no other time.
freeze love
It was sad.
It was sad watching Richard.
It was cool because once Richard would open his mouth...
It was him.
I mean, you know, you could tell that he's...
And then it was a weird effect because you'd be like, oh, yo, he's still there.
He's still in there.
But then you would be like, wait a minute.
He's in there.
That's his body now.
And that's what he's kind of...
It seemed like...
He was more in prison after you heard him do stand-up.
Because it was a realization, like, this is a man who has his wits but does not have his motor skills and his functions, his bodily functions, too.
To match up with his wit.
charlie murphy
Right, right, right.
freeze love
And that was, that just was, even though he was funny, even though he was sharp, that just, it was sad.
joe rogan
Yeah, he would, it seemed to me like there was a, there was a disconnect, too, towards the end.
I don't think he was completely lucid.
So when he would go on stage and talk about things, like, they didn't always make sense, and, you know, it was, it was, it was, he was dying, you know, and Joe Rogan!
unidentified
Joe Rogan!
joe rogan
Joe Rogan!
On Fox TV, please welcome Joe Rogan.
You go on stage and you have to do stand-up.
And it takes at least four or five minutes to get him out of the room.
Because they're walking with him out of the room.
Because he can't really walk.
So they have to carry him and walk with him really slowly.
And everybody's clapping and standing.
Like a war veteran just got off stage.
charlie murphy
That's who did just get off stage.
Thinking the Wrong Way Can Kill 00:05:13
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
It's a good one, yeah.
charlie murphy
Definitely, man.
joe rogan
Yeah.
charlie murphy
I've seen that type of, you know, that working spirit in other artists, too, like Sammy Davis Jr. The last film he ever did was...
The kid who loves Christmas.
And I would happen to be in that movie, and that's when he was dying.
And I wouldn't have came to work, but he was there every day, you know?
Wow.
He died like a week or two after we finished shooting.
He was advanced cancer, but he just came to work anyway, man.
joe rogan
Well, that's how Patrick Swayze did it, too, right?
charlie murphy
He's coming to work anyway.
joe rogan
Yeah, I guess why not?
Fuck it.
Just go out doing what you like doing.
brian redban
You think that's what Steve Jobs is doing?
Do you think that's why he stepped down today?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Do you know that?
Steve Jobs stepped down from Apple today.
brian redban
I hope it doesn't change.
joe rogan
Well, I don't know, man.
Dude has, like, he had pancreatic cancer, didn't he?
Or liver cancer?
Something crazy?
He had to get a liver transplant from fighting the cancer.
Wasn't that what it was?
brian redban
Yeah, but you think...
joe rogan
The liver got fucked up from the chemo or something?
unidentified
Yeah.
brian redban
I think he would magic Johnson that shit quickly.
He would pay for it and it would be done.
joe rogan
What do you think he could do?
brian redban
He just has all the money in the world.
That's just to show you that there really isn't any help for cancer.
You can fix AIDS, but cancer, you can't stop it, no matter how much money you have.
joe rogan
I think some people have a genetic inclination.
They can just get it.
They just have bad genetics.
They're most likely going to die of cancer young.
That's very possible.
But there's also a thing to be said for a guy who works as hard as Steve Jobs.
That shit is just not healthy.
You're hitting that red line all the time.
freeze love
That's true.
joe rogan
Your fucking engine is constantly going, man.
I don't think that's healthy.
It can be.
It's not fun.
If it's not fun, it's not healthy.
It's that simple.
Dude, you're a billionaire, son.
freeze love
And it's like, yo, you have done it, dude.
You can relax.
joe rogan
You really can.
unidentified
Eat some cookies, watch some TV. Yeah, he's got to eat oatmeal cookies with maple sugar.
joe rogan
He's got some serious issues with his health.
He's pretty fucked up.
You know, I don't know how much of that's genetic.
I don't know about that argument, you know, how much it's genetic, how much of it's...
charlie murphy
Well, I think a lot of it has to do with diet, man, you know?
Genetics, diet, all that, you know?
And stress in your environment.
joe rogan
A lot of executives, like Hollywood executives, a lot of those older guys, they start getting really sick.
And I think a lot of it is just the pressure, you know?
I knew this one guy, fucking, he used to work for my ex-girlfriend, or my ex-girlfriend used to work for him, rather.
Really nice guy.
Just 50 years old.
Had cancer, you know, out of nowhere.
And he was dead within weeks.
And it was just the weirdest thing ever.
He just seemed like this nice guy.
Like, hey, Bob, what's going on?
Nice to see you.
He's always laughing and joking around.
And then, boom!
Whatever it was, just hit him and hit him quick.
And all of a sudden, he's gone.
charlie murphy
They killed my father and my wife.
But both of them, it was like, you know, they got sick.
They went to the doctor, they was diagnosed, they went into treatment, and they passed away.
It wasn't like, you know, it was a long battle, you know?
unidentified
Yeah, man.
charlie murphy
And with both of them, like...
My dad, he smoked.
But when he was young, he was an athlete.
My wife didn't smoke, didn't drink, didn't do drugs, worked out, drank water every day, didn't eat meat.
None of that.
But still, she passed away before she was 40. It was diagnosed six months after my daughter was born.
Because we don't have to keep going for follow-up check-ups, then boom, you got cancer.
Yeah, man.
So it's very deadly, and its origins are a mystery.
Because it could be what you eat, it could be it's in your family, or it could just be you or your personality.
You're a very tense person, and you create it within yourself, man.
It's deep.
Very scary disease, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, imbalance is a frightening thing when it comes to your health, you know, when it really could be terminal, like you could have terminal imbalance.
You could get your whole system so fucked up from thinking the wrong way, doing the wrong way, eating the wrong way, treating your body like shit, treating people like shit, and then next thing you know it.
freeze love
Holding on to anger, all of that kind of stuff, holding grudges, all of that stuff, it has to manifest some way.
joe rogan
Resolving a grudge is one of the best feelings ever.
When you're cool with somebody, when you weren't cool with them, and then all of a sudden you're cool with them, it's a nice feeling.
As a human being, it's a good feeling.
charlie murphy
Almost definitely.
joe rogan
Yeah, but keeping one and just thinking about this motherfucker, if I see this...
Just hold it on to shit like that.
Going over fake arguments in your head.
Resentment Is Poison 00:06:48
joe rogan
If he says this, I'm going to say that.
What if he does this?
charlie murphy
I had to actually learn it.
For a long time in my life, I had to learn it.
Don't keep grudges.
Don't dwell on negative.
I had to learn it.
joe rogan
Yeah, and you want to be hard.
You want to tell them to fuck themselves for life, bitch.
freeze love
I was reading on Twitter the other day and somebody quoted a quote from Mandela and he said, resentment is like drinking a bottle of poison to kill your enemy.
joe rogan
Whoa.
That's deep.
freeze love
That is deep.
joe rogan
It is true, too.
freeze love
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's almost like you've got to figure out a way to make people that you hate, people that annoy you, people that only become a source of positivity to you.
Right.
Figure out a way to, no matter how cunty somebody gets with you, never let it affect you.
Only take it as a source of inspiration.
charlie murphy
You know what's made me better with that?
Twitter has made me better with that.
joe rogan
Because there's constantly assholes.
charlie murphy
You can't see and you can't wrap your hands around it.
joe rogan
Does that drive you nuts when people talk shit to you?
charlie murphy
Yeah, man.
I've gotten into it with a few people.
Then I realize you can fool yourself.
Going back and forth with this person, man.
They're probably playing right now.
unidentified
Of course they are.
charlie murphy
They got you lit up.
freeze love
And the other thing, like you said, you explained to me, you said, yo, don't forget.
Look, somebody says some real smart alecky or some bullshit to you.
And then you look and they got like seven followers.
But you retweeted what they said and what you're going to do to them.
charlie murphy
Now a hundred thousand people is reading it.
freeze love
Now a hundred thousand people.
I'm reading it.
charlie murphy
Now they want to know what's going on.
You know what I'm saying?
The best thing to do is just don't even respond.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can't...
Block.
Yeah, just block them.
brian redban
That's what I do.
I go block crazy every day.
joe rogan
Yeah, I just block them.
People want to talk a lot of shit.
They want to be angry, man.
It's like, you could choose to focus...
What you choose to put on that Twitter is a direct reflection of you as a human being.
When you send out there, that's you, man.
And if you get cunty, I don't need you in there.
I don't need you in the mix.
freeze love
Right.
joe rogan
Put that block on you.
You take care.
charlie murphy
I think if you want to talk to me that way, we should meet somewhere.
freeze love
Do you know how to get to the dock?
joe rogan
It's funny how many people out there looking to find somebody to hate.
That's a lot.
charlie murphy
A lot of people, man.
joe rogan
A lot of people looking for you to stumble.
So they get point fingers and you go fuck yourself.
freeze love
They want to do that.
They want to, you know, I don't know.
I guess it's people feel a lot of times that if you're failing...
Then that makes them doing good.
joe rogan
Better, yeah.
freeze love
I'm doing good.
I'm not finished.
See, look, look, look.
Look, they're failing!
charlie murphy
Yeah, yeah.
freeze love
They're failing.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, that's the worst.
I'm happy to see them fail that piece of shit.
You're like, man, you don't even know that dude.
freeze love
You don't even know this dude.
joe rogan
Never even met that dude.
brian redban
I'm glad it's not the opposite.
I would hate to have everyone try to kiss you all the time, like write you nice little love letters every day.
freeze love
I just want to tell you, your eyes look great today.
joe rogan
Who do you think would be the most annoying to be?
In that respect.
charlie murphy
Either one of them, man.
He can tell you, I broke up with this girl once for asking me, am I okay?
freeze love
Are you okay?
charlie murphy
She just kept saying it.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
charlie murphy
Are you okay?
Yeah, baby, I'm fine, I'm fine.
Why don't you go get something to eat?
She come back, are you okay?
Yeah, I'm okay.
20 minutes later, and then they even noticed it.
So I finally said to her, look, I'm a grown man.
Why do you keep asking me am I okay?
freeze love
Say it how you said it.
Say it how you said it.
Look, bitch, I'm okay!
joe rogan
What did you say?
What really?
charlie murphy
Look, bitch, I'm okay!
freeze love
I'm a grown man.
If I wasn't okay, do you think I'd come to you?
Do you think I would come to you for assistance?
charlie murphy
You could really help me with my problems!
joe rogan
Is that what you said to her?
charlie murphy
Yep.
I said, never ask me if I'm okay again.
Do you understand?
Are you okay?
joe rogan
Maybe she just wanted to talk but wasn't a good sentence starter.
charlie murphy
She had a problem, man.
joe rogan
She had a problem.
charlie murphy
She had problems with...
It was weird.
She was really whipped, I guess that's the way to put it.
joe rogan
She was dick whipped?
charlie murphy
To the point where it was irritating?
joe rogan
He just broke her down.
freeze love
To the point she was asking her, we don't care.
charlie murphy
You guys...
joe rogan
Damn.
freeze love
What's wrong with this chick, man?
joe rogan
Wow.
charlie murphy
You don't want that to be the effect, though.
You don't want somebody to, you know...
That's too much.
joe rogan
She was just too into you?
charlie murphy
Yeah, man.
Somebody could be too into you.
You know what I mean?
It's irritating.
Come on, man.
Back up, man.
joe rogan
I don't know, man.
That sounds pretty good to me.
unidentified
Nah.
charlie murphy
Nah.
joe rogan
I just need a few of them.
charlie murphy
You have to experience this.
freeze love
Nah.
unidentified
Nah.
freeze love
I felt sorry for the dude.
joe rogan
You felt sorry because she liked me too much.
charlie murphy
I come out the room, she's pacing in the hallway in front of my door or whatever.
What are you doing here?
joe rogan
At your beck and call.
charlie murphy
I came to see if you're okay.
I came to see if you're okay.
joe rogan
Was she hot?
Was she hot?
charlie murphy
She was nice looking, but that made her ugly, man.
All your okay stuff.
She did it to the point where it was like, look, I'm avoiding you at all costs.
joe rogan
And did you ever tell her, stop asking?
charlie murphy
Yes, several times.
joe rogan
And she wouldn't stop?
charlie murphy
She couldn't stop.
joe rogan
What was the issue?
She crazy?
charlie murphy
She was...
A little bit.
She's a little...
She said, I'm obsessed with you.
I was like, well, that means that you should go talk to a psychiatrist.
If you're obsessed with anyone, you shouldn't be dealing with them no more.
That's not part of a healthy relationship.
Obsession.
joe rogan
What caused the obsession?
charlie murphy
I don't know, man.
Some people...
joe rogan
Did you just fuck the shit out of her?
charlie murphy
Probably did.
You know what I'm saying?
You must have.
unidentified
You must have just fucked the shit out of this girl.
joe rogan
You broke her, dude.
You broke her to the point where she was waiting outside your door like a dog.
charlie murphy
Are you okay?
Am I okay?
joe rogan
She's like a bloodhound for you.
charlie murphy
You okay?
joe rogan
How many times did you have to fuck her before you broke her?
charlie murphy
Once.
Are you okay?
Started from the first session.
Are you okay?
I was like, am I okay?
Are you okay?
unidentified
Charlie Murphy.
Mike Tyson's Lion Rustling Around 00:13:01
charlie murphy
Are you okay?
joe rogan
Breaking girls' wills.
charlie murphy
I must crush you.
brian redban
Charlie did a Murphy.
charlie murphy
I'm going to tell you something.
I'm tired of being single, man.
joe rogan
Charlie did a Murphy?
brian redban
Charlie did a movie that I thought was the same name as The Coconut Water, isn't it?
charlie murphy
Oh yeah, it's Cookout 2. CO2. Alright.
Cookout 2, yeah.
brian redban
Yeah, with Mike Tyson, right?
charlie murphy
Mike Tyson's in the scene of the movie, yeah, yeah.
freeze love
I'm in it too.
charlie murphy
He's in it.
Freeze is in it.
brian redban
When's that coming out?
Is that you guys from that last year?
charlie murphy
Two years ago.
brian redban
Two years ago?
charlie murphy
Two years ago in Miami, yeah.
But I don't know when it's coming out, because that dude, Jimmy Henchman, is, you know...
unidentified
I told the shot camera, I told him when he was coming out in Miami, he said he was going to do a screening.
charlie murphy
Oh, okay.
One of the producers got, you know, put away, so I don't know what's...
joe rogan
The wonderful other movies.
charlie murphy
You know what I mean?
It's a funky world, man.
Movies are funny.
My best thrill was the fact that I had to...
A chance to work with Mike.
I knew Mike Tyson before he was the champ.
You know what I'm saying?
So I seen the whole journey from the guy who was a regular dude that was scared and all these people were around him and telling him, you could do this, and he did it, and he became this bigger-than-life person all the way to the end to now the person that he is now.
Because if you see Mike now, Mike got his shit together.
You know what I'm saying?
He's not...
Nobody can say, oh yeah, he's out of control.
He's not out of control.
He's a married dude.
He's calm.
He's polite to people.
He doesn't get in trouble no more.
freeze love
Laughing.
charlie murphy
Laughing.
joe rogan
It's funny.
charlie murphy
It's a dude, man.
joe rogan
It's interesting.
charlie murphy
Yeah.
He got his shit together now, man.
So I feel good about that.
I got to work with him in that movie.
That was a good feeling, man, because I hadn't seen him in years.
I seen him, and when I did see him, he was back.
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
You've seen that documentary?
charlie murphy
Yeah, I've seen the documentary.
joe rogan
How fucking powerful was that?
brian redban
With the birds.
joe rogan
If you've never seen that Tyson documentary, is it just called Tyson?
What is it called?
unidentified
I think extremely powerful.
charlie murphy
You see a man cry.
joe rogan
It is fucking incredible.
charlie murphy
Cry when he reflects on parts of his life.
A strong man like that, you have to realize that whatever was on him was no joke.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's incredible.
charlie murphy
That's a man who one time I went to his house, And it was six limos and nobody would get out the limo.
I said, how come nobody's getting out the car?
They said, you don't see that line standing over there?
Mike Tyson had a line in his front yard.
brian redban
Like hangover style.
charlie murphy
That's the only man whose house I ever went over.
There was a line in the front yard, loose.
brian redban
Wow.
charlie murphy
He was on the steps like this with a heavyweight belt.
What?
unidentified
What?
How come nobody wants to get out the car and play with my cat?
charlie murphy
He's like, no, man, no, that's not a cat.
unidentified
That's a lion.
brian redban
That's fucking real?
charlie murphy
Mike Tyson had a lion.
joe rogan
A male lion or a female lion?
charlie murphy
That's awesome.
With a mane, a lion in his front yard.
unidentified
Loose.
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
Shit.
charlie murphy
It was off the leash, man.
It was not in a cage.
It was in the yard.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
charlie murphy
Then he came out and started wrestling with him.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
Damn, he wrestled?
How big was the lion?
charlie murphy
It was big, man.
It was a lion, man.
joe rogan
He was wrestling with a lion.
charlie murphy
Came over there and grabbed him and started tussling with him and all that.
unidentified
Jesus Christ.
charlie murphy
And everybody was in the limousine, so the lion could come up to a limousine and bust the window open and come in there.
I'm sorry.
Easy.
He could just go like this, boof, and come right in there and just have lunch.
So everybody was in the car.
You couldn't back out because it was all like five limos.
So everybody's in the car horrified, thinking that Mike is getting ready to be eaten by this lion, but that doesn't happen.
He plays with him and he takes him in the back.
Comes back out and I was like, you know what?
I'm never going to be around another man in life that's going to do that behind me.
You know what I'm saying?
Because to me, Mike Tyson is not a lion team.
You ever hear about Mike working in Vegas?
No, he's just a team of lions.
He had one in his front yard, man.
And he had other cats there, too.
brian redban
Bieber would never have a lion, and he'd be like to chills all the way or something.
charlie murphy
How come you guys left waiting for my cats?
Because we've seen Wild Kingdom, Mike.
We've seen them eat wildebeest.
joe rogan
The Mike Tyson story is such a classic fucking story, too.
unidentified
Yeah, man.
joe rogan
It goes from being poor to being intensely rich.
charlie murphy
Intensely rich.
joe rogan
And the focus of attention of literally every person on the planet.
When he was at his peak, man, in the late 80s, God.
When he beat Michael Spinks...
freeze love
Crazy.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
I don't even think people today...
charlie murphy
When he had the billboard of Sunset, Iron Mike, and his face was made of iron...
I don't remember that.
It was the strongest billboard on Sensei.
joe rogan
Really?
charlie murphy
It's an iron Mike.
His face was made of iron.
It was just Mike's face.
Awesome, awesome billboard.
joe rogan
The years, like the Bruce Seldon years, where Bruce Seldon, he missed him with a left hook and Seldon's knees buckled.
He got up and just said, what am I doing getting up?
charlie murphy
He knew better.
joe rogan
He was a destroyer.
freeze love
There's no fighter out there right now, I think, that has captured the attention since him.
joe rogan
Not like him.
freeze love
Not like him since him.
joe rogan
People don't understand.
He was Michael Jackson.
charlie murphy
I'm going to tell you who would be captured if he was American.
Pacquiao.
joe rogan
Yeah, if you look at the sheer numbers between how he was and Tyson was, he's probably right up there with Tyson right now, huh?
freeze love
Close.
charlie murphy
Definitely close.
freeze love
Especially in...
Asia.
I mean...
charlie murphy
He's the real Bruce Lee right now, man.
joe rogan
In LA. You go to Wild Card Boxing, where he trains, people sit out there and wait for him.
They wait to find out what time Manny's going to be there.
There's a whole crowd of people there.
I did this thing with Daniel Tosh for Tosh's TV show where Tosh gets punched in the head by Manny Pacquiao.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
He let Pacquiao punch him.
Pacquiao's very nice.
He's very nice.
He's just like barely tapping him.
We had to do it a little harder to make it realistic so he could put a little pop into it.
But it was nothing.
It was very nice.
But every business in that whole complex has Manny's pictures up and Manny's signed things and he's got boxing gloves on and pictures of him eating in this restaurant that's right there.
freeze love
That's cool.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's like there's a huge He's like a superstar.
He's at the peak.
charlie murphy
He deserves it, man.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
And he's such a nice guy.
charlie murphy
Who do you think is going to win between Ortiz and Mayweather?
joe rogan
That's a good question.
I was going to bring that up when we were talking about Tyson because I was watching this thing on Victor Ortiz and he was talking about his childhood.
I was watching it right before he came over.
charlie murphy
Oh, he had it rough, man.
He had it rough, baby.
joe rogan
His mother, when he was 12 years old, or when he was 7 years old, or 6 or 7, his mother just left.
Just took off.
Never came back.
So he was only raised by his dad, and his dad just beat the shit out of them, hit them with sticks, hit them with anything, and then when they were 12, his dad left.
So it's him and his fucking brother like wild dogs at 12 years old taking care of themselves.
charlie murphy
Right.
joe rogan
Scary shit, man.
Like, they had nothing.
They had nothing.
freeze love
Real fighters.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And, you know, to come from that, man, there's a certain amount of resolve that that kid's going to have that the average person is not going to have.
But is that going to be enough to deal with Floyd motherfucking Mayweather, dude?
charlie murphy
Yeah, man.
joe rogan
Floyd Mayweather is an artist.
Love him or hate him for his personality and the way he attracts fans and the way he gets flamboyant and crazy.
Skillfully, forget all that.
Skillfully, he's a fucking master boxer.
He's a master.
He's very rarely in any trouble.
He gets hit, he can take a shot.
Shane Mosley banged him.
charlie murphy
Shane Mosley would stop anybody else in the division with that shot.
It would stop.
They wouldn't have been able to recover the way Mayweather did everything perfect.
He tied him up, he recovered, and then he took his time before he jumped back on him, and it was beautiful, man.
joe rogan
He's very, very technical.
He's technically perfect.
He makes these little short movements and throws guys off, little quarter turns and shots from different angles that you expect, and he gets through.
He finds out where you're going to step, and then he's waiting for you before you do it.
He sorts you out, man.
He's a real...
He's a real technical boxer.
charlie murphy
That's why I think what's going to happen with him and Ortiz is going the distance.
It's going to be bloody.
joe rogan
You think so?
charlie murphy
Ortiz is not letting him beat him.
He's coming to fight, man.
He's going to have to get beat.
Yeah.
It's going to be a good fight for Mayweather.
I think Mayweather's going to win, but he's going to have to beat Mayweather to beat him.
He ain't going to be able to come in and have the night off.
Right.
That dude is the real deal.
I get props.
He beat my friend Andre.
That's a good friend of mine, Andre Berto.
joe rogan
That was a great fight.
charlie murphy
That was a great fight.
But it showed me that this dude is no joke.
joe rogan
No joke.
charlie murphy
Andre Berto, that shot he dropped him with, anybody else don't get up.
joe rogan
Yeah.
charlie murphy
That guy got back up and then put him down.
joe rogan
Yeah.
charlie murphy
Off of that.
So when I put you down, I wasn't even at 100%.
I'm drunk when I do that.
unidentified
Right.
charlie murphy
And not too many fighters can pull that trigger.
Be on the ground like that and get up and put the other guy down?
How often do you see that happen?
joe rogan
He's definitely a blood and guts type fighter.
He throws himself into danger.
charlie murphy
So that's going to be a good fight for Mayweather.
joe rogan
He had that one fight where he quit.
And ever since that one fight, he's felt terrible about that.
He was losing his fight and he got dropped and he just called the referee off and quit.
And people really heavily criticize his heart.
But what it was was he wasn't 100% focused on either his training or fighting itself or the consequences of losing or whatever the fuck it was.
He came into a fight out of shape.
And that's some shit that happens.
That's some shit that young guys will do, man.
They'll fuck up and they'll have a bad camp or they needed to learn something or they needed to be pushed and broken to rebuild and come back again.
So ever since that fight, he's been a fucking monster.
That Berto fight was insane.
Because I thought Berto was, like, the next challenger to Mayweather.
I said, like, this guy's so technical.
But Berto is as well.
charlie murphy
But Berto got a fight coming up September 3rd.
He got a fight coming up September 3rd.
joe rogan
He's a real accurate puncher, too.
That guy's a sniper.
Yeah, he's nice.
Yeah, he's a bad motherfucker.
I thought he was going to be the next guy.
When Ortiz beat him, I was blown away.
That kid's tough.
And he got a lot better.
He got a lot better from that one fight.
You can tell the one fight where he quit, from then on, his dedication has obviously been way more focused.
charlie murphy
Way more, yeah.
And now with the way he beat Berto, what that does for your confidence is...
joe rogan
Yeah.
charlie murphy
It's going to be much more than if he just came in and stopped him early.
It's that he had a grueling contest with this man and came out on top.
So that really does a lot for him.
joe rogan
Do you think that there's any way that Mayweather is going to be rusty?
Because he keeps taking these year and a half breaks, two year breaks, in between fights.
charlie murphy
Well, I think the reason why he's doing that is because of his hands.
You know what I'm saying?
He lets his hands get a good time between fights to heal up.
He's older.
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
They break really easy, right?
He's broken them a few times.
charlie murphy
A lot of problems with his hands.
So he's preserving his hands, yeah.
But he still trains like a dog.
Around the clock he's training.
Whether he's got a fight coming up or not, it's his lifestyle.
So I don't think he's rusty at all.
joe rogan
So you think he just constantly stays home?
charlie murphy
He constantly brings him in.
He whips guys' asses every week, man.
Whether he's got a fight coming up or not.
joe rogan
Really?
charlie murphy
Yeah.
The guys come into the gym.
Light him up.
He works out.
He's always in shape.
He doesn't get in shape during camp.
He's already in shape when he gets there.
joe rogan
They showed his training camp.
They showed him hitting the pads.
Yeah.
It's ridiculous, man.
Nobody hits the pads like he does, too.
And a lot of it is just...
unidentified
Just combinations.
joe rogan
And you just watch the fucking combinations.
charlie murphy
Arms don't get tight.
joe rogan
It's just relaxed and everything's flowing.
freeze love
I'm just showing up at the jump rope.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's ridiculous.
freeze love
The jump rope routine is insane.
joe rogan
Well, he's a master.
unidentified
He does it from a standing position?
joe rogan
Yeah.
He doesn't take much punishment, man.
He's a guy who's been a boxer for a long time, and he looks perfect.
There's nothing wrong with him.
He's got no scars.
He's not busted up.
What is that, Mike Tyson with his lion?
brian redban
Mike Tyson with his lion just rustling around with it and stuff like that.
joe rogan
In the video?
Oh, that's the...
charlie murphy
You know I didn't make that up.
joe rogan
19-year-old, 20-year-old Mike Tyson right there.
unidentified
Let's look at this right here.
joe rogan
That's the Mike Tyson.
Oh my god!
He's got a fucking tiger.
charlie murphy
He has a lion tooth bigger than that, but he had one in it.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
How could that end well?
charlie murphy
It doesn't end well.
If you keep them long enough, it doesn't end well.
joe rogan
They always kill you, right?
charlie murphy
Eventually, yeah.
Come on, man.
They might not even do it on purpose, Joe.
They kill you by accident.
Bear Attacks and Misunderstandings 00:15:30
joe rogan
Yeah, well, isn't that what happened with Siegfried and Roy?
charlie murphy
Yeah, they could play with you and kill you.
joe rogan
Siegfried and Roy, that guy got killed by accident.
freeze love
With one slap.
Like, one little playful slap took off the side of his face.
joe rogan
Well, he didn't actually die, right?
He just got really badly, badly wounded.
And what happened was they think that the tiger got confused because a woman had feathers in her hair, like some crazy peacock feathers, and they think the tiger might have freaked out and thought that was an animal, so grabbed him to rescue him, to pull him away from that.
brian redban
He got Joan Rivered.
joe rogan
The tiger looked at that feather thing and thought it was one of those fucking beasts from Avatar or something.
unidentified
Yeah!
joe rogan
He's just gonna pop out of the audience.
charlie murphy
Who in the hell is that?
freeze love
A man-eating toucan.
joe rogan
Grabbed him by his neck and just dragged him off.
Jesus Christ.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
What does that feel like when you hear your bones or your neck snapping and crackling inside the maw of this fucking enormous beast?
freeze love
At that point your brain is saying, this was a tiger and you were in here with it.
charlie murphy
Right.
freeze love
That's when reality is crashing.
charlie murphy
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
freeze love
Like, what the fuck was I thinking?
charlie murphy
Right, right.
joe rogan
It's a tiger.
It's hard for us to really wrap our heads around the fact that shit like that really exists.
The tigers and bears and...
freeze love
Right.
joe rogan
Did you hear about that lady in Russia that got eaten by a bear while she was calling her mother on the phone?
freeze love
What?
joe rogan
The fucking...
Bears don't kill you, man.
They just start eating you.
That's one of the things about bear attacks.
charlie murphy
They broke into a house and started eating?
joe rogan
No, they were hiking.
Her and her stepfather were hiking.
And they killed her stepfather first.
And she got to her cell phone.
And she's calling the cell phone.
She's calling her mother while this fucking bear is eating her leg.
The bear is eating her leg.
And she's screaming and screaming.
And the phone call, she called her like three times over a period of an hour while this bear was eating her alive.
brian redban
Where was this?
You can get this on the internet?
joe rogan
It was in Russia.
brian redban
Can you hear the audio online?
joe rogan
Brian.
brian redban
I missed the first part.
joe rogan
No, there was a woman.
There was a woman who got eaten.
She kept calling her mother while she was being eaten.
brian redban
I thought it was an audio clip.
joe rogan
No, no.
There's no audio clip.
brian redban
That would be the worst audio clip ever.
joe rogan
They found the body.
They found the dude dead.
The bear was eating the guy when they got there.
The girl had died from her injuries.
freeze love
Was it a Russian black bear?
joe rogan
He's a Russian grizzly bear.
freeze love
Russian grizzly bear.
joe rogan
I believe he's a grizzly bear.
I think that's what the article I wrote said.
But, you know, any kind of bear will kill you.
charlie murphy
I don't see how these people be going up in these areas where that's possible and nobody has a gun with you.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Well, even if you have a gun, you better have a really big one.
You got to bet a really big one if you see a grizzly bear.
A regular gun might not be good enough.
charlie murphy
What about his mouth?
joe rogan
Might not be good enough.
charlie murphy
So even if you bang me, I'm going to blow your teeth out.
joe rogan
Yeah, maybe.
charlie murphy
You see you bang me after I put a full fifth in your mouth.
freeze love
What about a koala?
charlie murphy
Blow up the roof of your mouth.
joe rogan
Koala bears are vicious if you're a female koala bear.
freeze love
I'll beat the crap out of a koala bear.
joe rogan
You will?
You'll fuck up a koala bear?
freeze love
What is this, a fat cat?
charlie murphy
They got sharp claws.
joe rogan
Here's the move.
A koala bear is on the move.
He's headed towards you.
What's your first step?
freeze love
Kicking him.
Drop kicking him.
charlie murphy
Oh, yeah.
You should probably punt him.
Yeah, he's short.
freeze love
Yeah, punt him.
joe rogan
Yeah, you'd have to kick him.
freeze love
Right into a eucalyptus.
joe rogan
And you got to hope that he doesn't somehow or another time you lifting the foot up and just run right up your pants and bite your dick.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
As you go to swing, you're just a little off timing and scurries up your leg and right onto your dick.
freeze love
Because they only eat eucalyptus.
joe rogan
That's it?
charlie murphy
That's all they eat, yeah.
joe rogan
I believe koala bears rape the fuck out of female koala bears.
So they have to be strong and they have to have a good bite if they can pull that off.
I might have made that up.
brian redban
Aim for the balls.
freeze love
I think you're thinking of Tasmanian devils.
charlie murphy
They're rapists, yeah.
joe rogan
They're not real.
Tasmanian devils was a...
charlie murphy
That's a real animal.
freeze love
No, it's a real animal.
joe rogan
It did exist.
charlie murphy
It's a real animal.
joe rogan
Yeah, it does exist.
Oh, no, I'm thinking the Tasmanian tiger.
Tasmanian tiger did exist.
It was in Australia, but they went extinct.
charlie murphy
But the Tasmanian devil is a real animal.
joe rogan
What is it?
charlie murphy
It looks like a little rat family type thing.
joe rogan
Yeah.
charlie murphy
They rape the female.
That's how they breed.
freeze love
Half their body, but half of their body...
charlie murphy
Straight up, rape, man.
freeze love
Half of their body is, I think, like a little bit over half of their body is jaw muscle.
God damn!
They're just basically a mouth walking around, and they fight from birth till death.
They fight when they make love, they fight when they're born, they fight, they constantly fight.
joe rogan
How big are they?
freeze love
They're big.
Now, that's something that would, like, get a hold of your foot when you try to kick it.
unidentified
Yeah.
charlie murphy
Yeah.
You wouldn't want to kick that.
freeze love
Whoa!
charlie murphy
They're ugly, man.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
Look at the images of this motherfucker.
freeze love
And they yelled constantly.
joe rogan
Holy shit.
That's like a crazy cartoon pedo bear face.
brian redban
Yeah, it's like vampire bears.
joe rogan
Look at this thing.
Look at this thing.
brian redban
It's like rat bears.
charlie murphy
Right, man.
joe rogan
Look at that thing.
Wow.
freeze love
They will fuck you up, too.
charlie murphy
Very ugly.
freeze love
No jokes.
charlie murphy
Well, if you look like that, you should be angry.
That's one ugly animal.
joe rogan
Yeah, those little, there's like a few of these little type of crazy animals that scare the shit out of me, you know, of different species like wolverines and like honey badgers and shit like that.
They scare the fuck out of me, man, because they're only, they might only be like 15, 20 pounds, but they'll kill you.
freeze love
They got a low sight of gravity, man.
They're like stingrays of the forest.
joe rogan
Dude, they'll...
Don't kill you.
A honey badger would kill a person.
charlie murphy
A honey badger?
joe rogan
You just need some time, yeah.
charlie murphy
I've never even seen any.
joe rogan
You've never heard of a honey badger?
charlie murphy
You talk about them in one sentence, but then you watch these...
These shows about dogs, different breeds of dogs.
There's a badger, the honey badger you're talking about.
There's a terrier who specializes in him.
joe rogan
And killing the honey badger?
charlie murphy
They come with like 30 of these dogs.
He may kill like the first five.
unidentified
Jesus Christ!
charlie murphy
When they come, they go into his den.
They go in there and bring him out.
joe rogan
Oh my God!
charlie murphy
A Paterdale Terrier.
They go into his den and bring him out.
freeze love
Paterdale Terrier is a no joke.
charlie murphy
He may kill the first four or five that come in there, but the other ones are not affected by the death of their comrades.
joe rogan
He's like a real live Bruce Lee.
charlie murphy
Yeah.
joe rogan
That honey badger.
All these dogs are coming in.
He's just fucking them up, left and right.
Taking them out.
charlie murphy
They drag him out.
They label the honey badger.
freeze love
This is the most fearless animal on earth.
That's what they say about the honey badgers.
unidentified
Yeah, they don't give a fuck.
joe rogan
There's videos online that say honey badgers doesn't give a fuck.
And it's like all these videos of honey badgers eating cobras, chasing anything that's in front of them.
They kill poison snakes all day.
They're just too fast.
They just sneak up behind a snake, bite them in the head, and sometimes they get bit, they get hit by the venom, and you know what happens?
They fall asleep, and they wake up an hour later, and then they eat the snake.
freeze love
Wait, don't you He's gonna kill me?
joe rogan
He blacked out from venom and his little crazy murderous body processed the venom and he got up like he was drunk and just started eating that snake again.
Snake bit him with its poison and the poison didn't do shit but make him take a fucking nap.
freeze love
Wow.
Honey badgers must be from Brooklyn, right?
I can just imagine if they could talk they'd have a Brooklyn accent.
joe rogan
Honey Badgers don't even speak, bro.
There's no need for language in their thinking.
They're thinking.
There's no variables in their thinking.
You don't need language.
freeze love
I guess you don't.
joe rogan
It's just, fuck, kill, sleep.
That's what the Honey Badger...
freeze love
Fuck, wake up, do it again.
joe rogan
You just realize how weak we are, man.
We're so fleshy and...
freeze love
Tissue, like...
joe rogan
Just nothing.
Did you see Planet of the Apes?
charlie murphy
Yeah, I see Planet of the Apes, man.
joe rogan
Did you like it?
charlie murphy
You laughed.
joe rogan
You laughed?
freeze love
It was funny.
It was...
It was...
charlie murphy
I went to see Planet of the Apes because I was like, I know there's going to be some material.
freeze love
I love the gas can scene.
When he came up.
joe rogan
Oh, when he let the girl out.
freeze love
When it was like some real prison stuff.
joe rogan
Yeah.
charlie murphy
Was it me or was it Monkey doing a Levi's jeans commercial at the end of the movie?
The very last scene.
When he was standing on the branch overlooking San Francisco with that pose he had.
I was like, that's not a chimp pose, man.
That's a man's pose.
It's like he's selling some jeans or...
Shirts, Dockers or something.
The way he was standing there, he had his hand up.
He was really sexy.
Yeah, sexy.
freeze love
He was a sexy monkey.
charlie murphy
Looking at the Golden Gate Bridge and all that.
I was like, look at this shit, man.
It tripped me out.
joe rogan
It was weird when it was like, am I a pet?
charlie murphy
Sexy monkey.
freeze love
Yeah, am I a pet?
Yes, you're a monkey, motherfucker.
joe rogan
But he wasn't.
That was the whole thing.
freeze love
But he was.
joe rogan
But he wasn't.
But he was a supercharged super monkey, man.
He was the monkey smartest people.
unidentified
Yeah.
charlie murphy
He was the alien monkey.
freeze love
Yeah, he was.
joe rogan
I just, I'm down for any movie where champs fuck people up.
I love watching chimps.
I love the way they move, man.
It's fucking shocking.
You ever watch any of those things where they would teach chimps how to sign their own names?
And they could teach them how to spell things, and when they would spell it correctly, they would get candy.
So they'd learn how to spell certain things and point certain things out.
And this one chimp, they would let him into the cage.
And the first thing they have to do is establish dominance.
So as soon as you open this thing up, he's a big, fucking, fully grown, like, eight-year-old male.
So he comes in and just starts...
Fucking throwing himself through the air.
He's like a buck sixty, a buck seventy.
Just hurls himself through the air.
Catches the cage.
Rattling the cage back and forth.
Hurls himself through the air.
Catching bars.
And you just look at the strength that he displays.
You watch it happen.
You watch him throw his body around and just realize what he could do to you.
And then he sits down.
And then he'll play with you.
And then he puts his things out, takes his candy, eats it.
But he just wants to let you know what the fuck he could do.
freeze love
I'm just letting you know.
This is me.
If I get tired of eating these sunflower seeds or candy or whatever, I could come over there and just smack you around.
joe rogan
I thought Planet of the Apes was good.
I didn't think it was that funny.
freeze love
I thought it was funny.
joe rogan
I liked it, man.
I liked it.
freeze love
The gas can.
Come on, man.
joe rogan
It was pretty funny.
freeze love
I loved the gorilla.
The gorilla.
He was smart.
He let the muscle out.
joe rogan
Right there.
Isn't it funny?
brian redban
I heard Final Destination.
That new movie has the best 3D yet.
joe rogan
I ain't seen that stupid movie.
brian redban
For 3D to read.
joe rogan
I do not want to see a movie where there's a bunch of people just dying.
unidentified
Yeah.
charlie murphy
I never got it with that movie.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian redban
Did you ever see the old ones though?
Like that highway scene where the semis are going like...
joe rogan
I can respect.
brian redban
It's like a crazy car accident.
It's pretty cool.
It's not like a fucking awesome movie, but it's a fun movie, I guess.
joe rogan
I don't have that kind of free time.
freeze love
It's like the show A Thousand Ways to Die.
charlie murphy
No, no, no.
joe rogan
That show's kind of funny.
charlie murphy
I watched that show.
joe rogan
That show's funny.
charlie murphy
That show's hilarious.
joe rogan
The problem with these Final Destination movies to me is like, oh, he's getting acupuncture.
How's it going to be?
Oh, now he's dead.
I respect the special effects, but...
Other than that, it's like, what, am I just watching a bunch of people die because of some stupid curse?
brian redban
This new one has a bridge that's collapsing, like it's broken in the middle, and it's during rush hour, and it's just like the car's skidding in, and it's just all in 3D. Wow.
joe rogan
So that part's cool?
brian redban
I'm sure.
joe rogan
But you haven't seen it?
brian redban
That's what I've been told.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
brian redban
It's saying it's like awesome 3D if you like that shit.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
Yeah, I'm not into movies just for 3D. I saw Conan, and it wasn't 3D. How was that?
It sucks.
Of course it sucks.
And it's awesome, and it sucks at the same time.
Because here's the deal.
The dude is the perfect Conan.
Like, physically, the way he looks, he looks just like Conan.
I mean, he could easily be Conan, like, right out of the Robert E. Howard books.
So you got that, and then you got...
Did you hear my kids screaming in the background?
charlie murphy
Yeah.
joe rogan
I need a studio.
This is ridiculous.
Look out there.
charlie murphy
It's like an echo, though.
joe rogan
Throw some man shit down.
freeze love
Hey, they run that.
It's their house, man.
joe rogan
Anyway, the dude was...
We're just kidding, folks.
Don't get crazy out there.
The books were...
But it had no story.
It was awesome in the beginning when he was a kid.
He was a badass kid, killing everybody, and it was awesome.
And then it got lame, and then it got awesome again.
There was a couple fights.
It was pretty awesome.
And then it got lame again.
It was awesome and lame.
But they needed somebody while they were making that movie to be in the room with them going, What?
What?
You're going to do what?
brian redban
They need a company that does that.
Really?
I want to be that company.
joe rogan
We should totally have that.
brian redban
Me and my five friends be like, that's so dumb.
Why would you ever do that?
This is so fake.
joe rogan
I can fix Conan.
All I need is a three-day weekend and a lot of weed and some buddies that like those kind of movies.
And you can fucking figure that out.
You can figure out a way to end that.
freeze love
We're going to smoke a ball and take over another army.
charlie murphy
Yeah!
joe rogan
That was the other problem.
This dude, he sounded way too California.
He was like, there was times, like in deep battle, he was a great Conan.
When he was fighting things and killing and yelling and screaming, he was a great Conan.
But then he was sitting down and talking, it was like, alright dude, you need to work on your Conan voice, because this shit, you sound like some dude I would meet at Target.
It doesn't sound like someone who came from that era at all.
freeze love
Ugh.
I hate that.
That's like, okay, thanks for crashing me back into reality.
charlie murphy
Conan is Arnold Schwarzenegger, point blank.
brian redban
Yeah, exactly.
charlie murphy
It's going to be hard to beat that, man.
freeze love
Conan's voice sounds like this.
charlie murphy
It's going to be hard to beat that, man.
The performance he put down, he captured it, man.
joe rogan
Well, he showed a certain intensity.
I mean, Arnold had, first of all, nobody's built like Arnold.
They're all going to look weak compared to how he looked when he was flinging around the sword.
You don't get a dude who's built like that.
brian redban
I would see a remake with him now, would you?
joe rogan
Now?
brian redban
Now.
He spent like a good hour prep for it.
joe rogan
An hour prep?
brian redban
Yeah.
I mean, a year prep.
charlie murphy
I'm going to tell you something.
If he went back to the gym, he probably could pull it off.
Schwarzenegger pulled off that last racquet.
I mean, Sylvester Stallone did?
Sylvester Stallone pulled that last racquet off.
joe rogan
Yeah, but Sylvester Stallone never really let himself go.
Arnold has clearly let himself go.
And he had a heart problem, too, right?
Didn't he have a heart surgery?
charlie murphy
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, he did.
Okay, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, he probably can't juice up anymore.
freeze love
At this point, Sylvester Stallone, the next movie he's going to make is Mrs. Doubtfire.
joe rogan
Sylvester Stallone?
charlie murphy
You mean Schwarzenegger?
freeze love
No, Schwarzenegger, yeah.
joe rogan
You have me confused as fuck.
freeze love
Mrs. Doubtfire.
charlie murphy
Mrs. Doubtfire.
freeze love
This is the way I can see my kids.
joe rogan
He's a fascinating guy, isn't he?
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
The guy who just bangs his maid and just shooting loads into his maid while he's the mayor.
For 10 years, right?
freeze love
Yeah.
A decade.
joe rogan
He's just too raw.
freeze love
A decade of...
joe rogan
Just be quiet about this.
Banging her all day at work.
freeze love
This is the way you get your razor on here.
joe rogan
The governor loves you.
It's so weird, man.
Imagine that poor kid has to grow up knowing that, you know, the governor was just banging his mom and he had a real dad that he grew up with but that wasn't really his dad.
He looks just like Arnold.
That's got to be a mind-fucking-half, man.
charlie murphy
But you should get in the bodybuilding.
Take advantage of that.
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charlie murphy
You got the same genes, man.
freeze love
Go hard.
charlie murphy
Now that you know who your father is, get down and go to the gym.
joe rogan
Because he has a different mother, he's not entitled to all that cash.
It's a totally different situation, right?
charlie murphy
He gets taken care of.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, he has to pay child support, but I bet the kid's probably not in the will and all that good stuff.
charlie murphy
Oh, yes, he is.
He can get in the will.
freeze love
He can get in the will.
charlie murphy
He was one of his offspring, man.
freeze love
It's like this.
At this point, that kid can look at it as half empty or half full.
You're halfway in there, kid.
You're halfway in there.
You can make it work.
joe rogan
It's a fascinating thing, man.
I wonder how many kids Kennedy had on the side and nobody knew about him.
77. Think about back in those days, man.
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joe rogan
They didn't have as many abortions.
A woman would go live with her mom.
unidentified
I'm going to live in Worchester.
freeze love