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Aug. 11, 2011 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #129 - Ari Shaffir
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ari shaffir
24:33
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brian redban
15:03
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joe rogan
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joe rogan
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unidentified
Oh, savings!
joe rogan
Buckle up, you dirty bitches.
It's my birthday, and Ari Shaffir's in the house.
unidentified
Yay!
joe rogan
Yay! - That hurts, sir. - The inevitable slide continues as I hit 44 today.
ari shaffir
A slide to death?
joe rogan
Yes.
The slide towards the great beyond.
It will not stop.
It waits for no man.
ari shaffir
44?
Which one is it?
joe rogan
44. That's what I just turned.
unidentified
Okay.
ari shaffir
Is that a special year when it goes back and forth?
joe rogan
No.
It just keeps going.
Keeps sliding.
I always say that I keep my eye on Sylvester Stallone.
He's my canary in a coal mine.
ari shaffir
As long as he still goes.
joe rogan
As long as that guy's still alive.
Like, how much roid can you do?
And be like 60. That's incredible.
ari shaffir
You know what he's like?
joe rogan
He's like an old fucking car.
You could take an old 55 Chevelle or a 55 Buick, rather, and just put some ridiculous rocket engine in it and, you know, and fucking see how long that suspension lasts.
ari shaffir
Brand new parts all over.
joe rogan
Constant brand new parts, but how long before he blows that frame out?
How long before that frame just bends and falls off?
He must have like the best scientists in the world just constantly jabbing him with needles.
Just constantly checking his blood.
ari shaffir
As he's eating breakfast.
Somebody comes and sticks him.
joe rogan
Yep.
ari shaffir
Somebody else comes and draws some.
joe rogan
Checks his blood.
Checks his urine.
They examine him.
And then they hit him with some more roids.
ari shaffir
Make sure you eat a grapefruit and shoot it up.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Give him some of that shit from the Planet of the Apes.
Give him that new shit.
Dude, he's my canary to call mine.
So as long as I'm 44 and he's like 65 or something like that now, I think he's 65, still doing action movies.
ari shaffir
Have you seen that movie, that Planet of the Apes movie?
joe rogan
Yeah, we talked about it last podcast.
brian redban
Doug Stato is my canary.
He's your canary?
Yeah, because he drinks and smokes.
He does everything.
joe rogan
Doug Canary is going to die.
unidentified
You live the same way.
brian redban
He got in a lot of trouble recently, I guess.
ari shaffir
Does Denhoff got in trouble for something?
joe rogan
Oh, go on.
brian redban
He was on, I believe, BBC Radio, and the host of the radio show just mentioned one of his jokes, and what is the disease?
joe rogan
Down syndrome.
brian redban
Down syndrome.
joe rogan
This is what he said.
He said, this is Stan Hope's joke.
Sarah Palin has two retarded kids.
One of them has Down syndrome.
The other one signed up for the military.
It's a fucking good joke.
ari shaffir
Yeah, using retarded both ways.
So what did I say on BBC America?
unidentified
And DJ just mentioned Yeah, he said, well, this is the deal.
joe rogan
He's on BBC Radio, which I've done before, and they're very polite, and you don't go into depth about anything.
There's no flavor to it at all.
BBC Radio is like the most bland, flavorless, emotionless.
It's like PBS. PBS with an accent.
It's like PBS if it was tired.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, PBS if it got neutered, if they had no sex.
unidentified
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Oh, it's fucking terrible.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Terrible radio.
But Stanhope did it, and he's talking to this, you know, they can't get into depth about it, so he's forced to have sort of a polite conversation, but he doesn't want to give the people the wrong impression that this is going to be like what they come to see, you know?
When people don't know what kind of comedy you do, and Stanhope is, you know, remarkably offensive.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Especially if you're just some regular fucking square out there living in the world.
Especially in England.
You're not used to this Arizona trash that is Doug Stanhope.
So they wanted to let the people know.
Just in case you don't believe us that Mr. Stanhope has a very offensive stand-up comedy act, just Google his bit on Sarah Palin.
That's all this guy said.
ari shaffir
They didn't even say the retarded bit?
joe rogan
No, he said see the bit on YouTube.
ari shaffir
And they got in trouble for that?
joe rogan
Yes, he got in trouble for that.
ari shaffir
Why did they even go on that show?
joe rogan
Well, what he's saying is, what the people are saying is that what this guy did in referencing that is like, sort of, like, what's the word?
ari shaffir
Condone it?
joe rogan
Condone it, yeah.
It's like condoning it.
By telling people about it at all, you're advertising it, sort of.
Which I can see what they were saying.
But so fucking what?
ari shaffir
But they're condoning on the level of this does represent offensive material.
joe rogan
He's telling you that it's offensive.
And if you don't believe him, watch his bit.
So if you don't believe him, you know, and you watch the bit and you get offended and then you get mad, you're a fucking moron.
That's one of the dumbest fucking things I've ever heard in my life.
ari shaffir
Because you're saying, I'm not taking your word for it.
And then going there, I'm like, What?
I should have taken your word for it?
unidentified
How dare you?
joe rogan
It's outrageous that anyone could possibly complain.
This guy is interviewing a comic, okay?
And in the interview, the comic stays within the lines of whatever parameters of behavior they find acceptable.
He doesn't go out of those lines at all.
He just had a polite conversation.
But they wanted to let people know.
So he said, if you don't believe us, watch this bit.
And then people are going fucking crazy and they're calling for this guy's head.
It's incredible how...
What is going on?
Why is everybody becoming such a bunch of cunts and pussies?
Because it feels like more than ever.
ari shaffir
A lot of them, they just can.
So they do.
joe rogan
That is it, right?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Is it frustration in their own lives and they find something where they can score on?
Something where they can fucking tee off on and they just go after it?
ari shaffir
Well, sometimes it really is.
Like, I didn't want to hear that and it's fucking annoying.
unidentified
Right.
ari shaffir
I don't say fucking annoying, but if it's too in their face.
joe rogan
Right.
ari shaffir
But I think usually it's just like, wait, is that...
Yes, you shouldn't be promoting that anyway.
And people just go overboard.
Like, I don't even want to exist in the world.
So they get mad whenever anyone references it.
They're trying to kill it.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's that too, but it's a self-righteous indignation.
It's just so fake.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's so many people that are looking for a moment to be angry.
ari shaffir
To shit on other people for something.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
ari shaffir
But you're not Christian enough.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're not anything enough.
Whatever the fuck it is.
ari shaffir
And that's all it is.
It's just a religious thing.
That's all that's left.
joe rogan
Why the fuck is it so hard for people to leave other people alone?
ari shaffir
It's like he's telling you it's offensive stuff.
Alright, if you're into Jesus or whatever, just don't watch it.
joe rogan
Why is it so hard for cunts to watch it?
Even if they watch it and they get upset like, oh god, he said that?
That guy's an asshole.
Never go see him live.
Why do they get so upset they attack the DJ for mentioning it?
ari shaffir
I don't know.
joe rogan
I mean, you gotta be a real...
You gotta be a fucking mess.
You're gonna use your time for that?
Like, really?
Really?
That's ridiculous.
ari shaffir
Who the fuck does that?
joe rogan
I don't know, man.
ari shaffir
Is that what it is?
joe rogan
I don't know.
I don't know who the fuck does it.
ari shaffir
Remember that lady that Patrice O'Neill was fighting with on MSNBC or Fox News?
joe rogan
Yes.
ari shaffir
Yeah, like that type of woman.
She represents the people who complain.
joe rogan
Yeah, what the fuck, man?
ari shaffir
It's just like, you don't even really understand what's even been said.
joe rogan
I was talking to this woman, and she told me in the middle of the conversation about some letter that she wrote to some something.
I forget if it was a show or a product that she didn't like.
But she was going off about how, so I wrote them a letter, telling them that I didn't find it.
I go, really?
You wrote them a letter?
Like, really?
ari shaffir
The only reason to write a letter to a company is for the back-to-school reason.
I mean, summer school reason with Mark Harmon, where you get free shades and things like that when you're writing a letter.
joe rogan
I remember hearing that.
All you have to do is complain.
I got some bunk Gillette razors.
What's up?
I think your razors rule, but this is bullshit.
brian redban
I used to do that all the time.
joe rogan
And it works?
brian redban
Yeah, mostly restaurants were the best, because I'd go to a restaurant, and even if it was just mediocre, instead of just writing a review, I'd just send a letter to Applebee's.
Like, dude, I went to Applebee's.
The waiter was like, I mean, 20 minutes for a soup, really?
They'll send you a gift certificate back for $50.
And I'm like, ah, ding!
joe rogan
Have you ever seen anybody in person trying to run that scam in a restaurant?
ari shaffir
What?
Complain?
joe rogan
The fake complaint scam?
ari shaffir
I've seen real complaints from Jewish delis, but they're just really complaining about everything.
joe rogan
Well, there's people that complain, like this soup's cold, or this corned beef is rough.
That's all legit.
I mean, I had to send a pastrami Reuben back once at Jerry's Famous Deli.
It turns out they cut it the wrong way, but it wasn't bad.
But if you cut it one way, it's real rough.
ari shaffir
It doesn't bite right.
joe rogan
Yeah, but if you cut it another way, it breaks up.
Which is incredible when you think about it.
ari shaffir
It doesn't.
joe rogan
It doesn't.
ari shaffir
Brisket's the same way.
You've got to cut it with a grain or it gets a grain.
I forget which one it is.
brian redban
Can't you just move your hands to the left?
joe rogan
No, you would think so.
But what it is, when you cut it with the tendon, Like, along the grain of the tendon, which is apparently the wrong way.
Then it's like chewing these tendons.
Tendons is the wrong word.
Muscle fibers.
But if you cut it against it, I guess then it comes out.
ari shaffir
My dad showed me a taste test once on a brisket.
He showed me, and he was like, look, if I cut it wrong, he gave me each.
I was like, ugh.
It just bites wrong.
unidentified
Wow.
ari shaffir
That's what it is.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Fuck, I was going to say something.
ari shaffir
So you sent that back.
You complained.
joe rogan
That was the only thing ever.
Yeah, the people that complained ever are idiots.
Oh, no, this is what it is.
I watched this happen in a restaurant.
I was at Spago, which is an excellent restaurant.
I mean, Spago in Maui, in Hawaii.
It's really expensive.
It's at the Four Seasons.
And it's a five-star restaurant.
I mean, it's jamming.
The food there is intense.
It's really good.
ari shaffir
It's one of those places where you...
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
ari shaffir
See this chef there?
joe rogan
Yeah, you eat there.
They have this miso cod.
You eat it, you're like, God damn, this is fucking delicious.
They're experts.
They're expert chefs.
So it's a high-end place.
So there's a lot of rich people there dining.
You look around.
And I'm on vacation.
I'm like, how much money did this guy steal?
Who's this corporate criminal?
It's that kind of shit.
And at this restaurant, the people behind us, There was this English couple, and they were totally working a scam.
It was so obvious.
One of them, the guy was like, you know, he kept saying, like, you guys, you've got to get your shit together here.
He goes, I've come here.
I've come here.
I've wanted to get the pork chop.
You tell me you're out of the pork chops.
But the pork chops are your special.
Like, mate, how are you running out of this?
I mean, this is shoddy, shoddy stuff.
And the guy's like, well, I apologize, sir.
But, you know, hopefully you can find another choice.
You know, and so he says, you know, our food didn't come at the same time.
Like, hers was over, you know.
He said it was like ten minutes later.
brian redban
Was it Gordon Ramsay?
joe rogan
No, no, no.
It was just some dick.
And he was asking them to take money off.
Like, surely you can't expect us to be paying for this.
And he started talking about the rice.
And he goes, you bought over rice.
Her rice was so hot, it almost burnt her mouth.
I mean, mate, what is this?
ari shaffir
Pussy pants mood.
joe rogan
They send something back.
We send it back because it's cold.
You bring it back because it's too hot.
Come on, man.
Get your shit together, mate.
He goes, this is intolerable.
He goes, you've got to do something to fix this.
ari shaffir
Recompense us.
joe rogan
Yeah, whatever the word is.
Do something to make things right.
And I was like, wow, to compensate us.
You know, you can't compensate me for this.
You know, it was like, really, it was ridiculous.
And they kept going.
And the manager, it was a clumsy one.
Like, they were being way too obvious about it.
And what they were complaining about was way too little.
ari shaffir
Also, it's like, if they don't have the special, it's like, well, then you should get up and leave immediately.
It's not like you were halfway through the meal, then it got bad.
You're complaining from the start.
joe rogan
Well, they complained about a few different things.
It took me a while to tune into them.
There was a certain cunty noise from behind me.
So it took me a while to tune into it.
And then once I tuned into it, then we actually watched them try to scam these waiters.
And then the waiter had to bring over a manager.
And the waiter clearly said to the manager that these people were scamming.
Because as the manager came back, he was like a stone-faced killer.
He's like, how can I help you?
What's going on here?
And the guy, like, runs his shit.
He goes, sir, we're out of the pork chops.
Any other questions?
What can I help you with?
Like, he just, like, kept them.
Like, sir, I'm confused here.
Is why you would think that we would compensate you for this, sir?
Like, why would you, uh, why would, your meal is insatisfactory.
This is an excellent restaurant.
I don't know what you're saying.
I could just, like, shut the guy down.
But it was ugly, man.
It lasted for, like, 15 minutes.
And it required everybody to pay attention to it because it was, you know, when you're in a restaurant and all of a sudden some shit goes wrong at some table and you hear people raise their voices, like, you have to pay attention, at least part of it, because someone might pull out a fucking gun or somebody might punch somebody.
ari shaffir
It just commands your attention.
joe rogan
Yeah, it commands your attention, but your warning signals go off, at least mine do.
When I see people arguing, I always say, okay, what's going on here?
How much do I have to pay attention to this?
What is the threat level I'm assessing here?
You know, when people are in the middle of, you know, fucking yelling at each other, so I had to pay attention to these scumbags.
But it was weird.
It's weird seeing, like, people run scams.
Like, it's one thing to be a kid in Ohio trying to get fucking free lollipops or whatever you want.
But to be a grown man in his 40s with a woman who is clearly in on it, and they're trying to work this shit.
brian redban
I feel bad.
That's the...
Joey Diaz, when he was younger, he robbed banks and mugged fags.
ari shaffir
That's a better way to do it.
brian redban
I feel bad about my past, but it's not as bad.
I used to do this scam when I was like 18, 17. I would go to these diners just to smoke cigarettes and drink coffee, and I had no money.
And so what I would do is, once in a while, I had chest hair when I was in high school.
Once in a while, I would just be like, oh, who wants free meals?
And I would just poke it and go, do you guys want some?
And I would give it to my friends.
ari shaffir
Did you really do that?
brian redban
Yes.
ari shaffir
How many times did you do it?
brian redban
Probably like four or five times.
ari shaffir
Four or five times at the same place.
brian redban
Yeah, TJ's on High Street.
joe rogan
There's a dude that I know that actually brings clipped nails, nail clippings, to restaurants.
He'll drop them in soups and his food and claim that people put that in there.
And he'll complain about it, and he does it on purpose.
ari shaffir
So he eats most of it?
joe rogan
And he gets paid well, this guy.
ari shaffir
Oh, they pay him?
unidentified
No, no, no.
joe rogan
This guy is not a broke guy.
He's not a poor guy running a scam.
But he brings a little plastic bag, a little Ziploc bag of nail clippings.
brian redban
Me and my friend Shane once.
I went to Arby's, and you know the fountain drinks?
They have these little black nozzles, and if you've worked in a restaurant, it's like what you usually take out to clean every night, and you put it in and twist it.
Anyways, we got a drink, and that black nozzle fell into his glass, and so we went home, and this is like when I first got a video camera, and he opened it up, and he was like, what is this thing after he's drank half of it?
He's like, what's this thing?
And he pulls it out, and it's the black nozzle, and inside of it is just mold, and The most disgusting shit ever.
So we filmed it, and we went to Arby's, and he's just bitching at the manager.
And we filmed the whole thing, and he's like, no, I want some free shit.
And he turned it into, I want some free Arby's.
ari shaffir
No, you're going to pay me.
You're not going to bring it up.
I'll bring it up.
brian redban
And the funny thing is, she wouldn't give him anything.
ari shaffir
Really?
brian redban
Anything.
ari shaffir
Oh, that was the internet days.
unidentified
You would have killed him.
brian redban
Yeah, in the internet days.
In the video, she's like, I don't care.
She's like, here, I'll give you a dollar back for your drink.
And he gives a dollar back to the drink.
And he's like, are you kidding me?
We could send this to the fucking news.
And she goes, I don't give a, you know, I don't care.
ari shaffir
She called your bluff.
brian redban
I know.
And I have that video somewhere.
joe rogan
And she was right.
ari shaffir
You didn't do shit.
unidentified
She called your bluff.
ari shaffir
You didn't do crap.
She's long dead, of course, at Arby's.
unidentified
But if you look at that video, you'll be disgusted.
brian redban
Like, yeah, if it was the internet days, I sent that picture of just that nozzle to Arby's.
ari shaffir
You gotta find that video.
joe rogan
It's amazing that restaurants are as clean as they are when you think about it, you know?
All those fucking lazy people working in there.
ari shaffir
But they're not.
brian redban
They're not.
ari shaffir
You ever see But not clean.
brian redban
Kitchen Nightmares.
One of the best TV shows ever from Gordon Ramsay, but I think they canceled it.
They have the UK version and the American version.
ari shaffir
They go to crappy restaurants.
joe rogan
Yeah, they go to places where they're just a wreck.
brian redban
Yeah, but what sucks is there's a restaurant down the street from me in Burbank that was on that show.
unidentified
Oh, no.
brian redban
One of the worst episodes.
And anyways, you can get on Torrance, but there's one Mexican restaurant where they go in the back, and I guess a lot of Mexican restaurants do this.
They have a big bucket that they get at Home Depot, and they just put all the beans in it.
And they have these bucket of beans where they just scoop out every day, like, here's your beans, here's your beans.
They pulled that bucket of beans out.
One side of it was fucking mold.
The other side was like a breakthrough where the hard layer in the top broke through.
Wait a minute, where was it?
It was a Mexican restaurant on...
joe rogan
There's mold on the beans?
brian redban
Yeah, on one side it was mold, and the top layer was so hard that they broke through like ice, like North Pole style, to get the beans underneath that were still...
ari shaffir
It was so hard.
joe rogan
Really?
ari shaffir
That's the beans they serve to people?
brian redban
If anyone's ever seen this episode, they will know.
I think about it every time I go to a Mexican restaurant.
Are those the beans they serve to people?
Yes, and they served it to him in the show.
That's why this show is so great because every episode he goes into the kitchen and finds the exact same kind of shit.
ari shaffir
Yeah, that part's the fake part.
brian redban
It freaks you the fuck out where you don't want to eat at a restaurant ever again after watching that.
But it's on Torrance Kitchen Nightmares US version.
joe rogan
God damn.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's a lot, man.
You do risk it.
When you go somewhere and you buy someone else's preparation, you do risk it, you know?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
You do risk it.
I've worked in restaurants before.
Whatever, you got to tune it out.
ari shaffir
You got to tune it out.
joe rogan
A girl that I was dating got in trouble for spitting in someone's milkshake.
unidentified
Ugh.
ari shaffir
You should get in a lot of trouble for that.
That ruins your faith in the system.
brian redban
That shit happens all the time, too.
I used to do that as a waiter all the fucking time, putting my balls on people's breadsticks and shit like that.
joe rogan
Yeah, I guess the dude was a dick, so she spit in his fucking milkshake.
ari shaffir
People, that's always an option to be a dick.
Just don't do it.
It's so easy.
unidentified
Don't do it.
joe rogan
Meanwhile, she was kind of pretty.
Probably would have let her spit in his mouth.
brian redban
Can you imagine being a cop going to a restaurant?
Can you imagine being a cop going to a restaurant?
You know how many times people probably see a cop walking into a restaurant and fucking fuck that cop?
joe rogan
Oh yeah, for sure.
Especially some former prisoners.
ari shaffir
No one likes them.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, man.
Holtzman became a meter maid, didn't he?
ari shaffir
Yeah, I think for a little while.
joe rogan
Yeah, Metermade is a terrible job.
You're just getting negative energy all day.
Nobody's nice to Metermades, man.
ari shaffir
It would probably change Metermade's world if they would give them the option to stop halfway through a ticket.
If they actually could do that and make some people's days.
joe rogan
Yeah, right?
They can't?
Or can they?
ari shaffir
They always say, I can't stop once I've started.
That was always the stereotype, the cliche.
joe rogan
But is that true?
ari shaffir
I don't know.
But if they could, they would win over so many more fans.
joe rogan
It's so goddamn ridiculous that you have to give someone money to put your car somewhere.
Fuck you!
Fuck you.
Just fuck you.
ari shaffir
That's ridiculous.
No one will be able to get anywhere.
joe rogan
So what?
So put up a sign that says you can't park forever and then tow the fucks who do.
It's that simple.
I mean, it's one thing if you live in one of those places like in West Hollywood, it's kind of crazy because they have all these spots where you can only park if you're a resident.
Because there's really way too many people for this area.
ari shaffir
Yes, the residents would never be able to park.
joe rogan
Even the residents can't park.
There's too many for the residents.
As it is, there's too many.
There's not enough parking spots for all the cars.
Because there's all these apartment buildings, and everybody in L.A. drives.
So if you look at an apartment building, you're looking at one area that's not that big on a block, but might have 100 units in it.
ari shaffir
Yeah, 40 people for four cars worth of spots.
joe rogan
It's a hundred cars.
A hundred cars is like the whole block, but there's a lot of other shit on that block besides that apartment building.
So it becomes a goddamn nightmare.
But that kind of makes sense.
Like, resident parking, like, don't park it.
That's, you know, these people live here.
Yeah, it sucks if you want to visit somebody, but that's better than if you lived there and it was intolerable.
Every day you couldn't get a parking spot.
But to charge people for parking on the fucking public streets...
Fuck you.
You know, it's just, it's ridiculous.
You shouldn't get any fucking money for someone who's shopping in a store, wants to pull over.
The fuck you!
You get a dollar for that?
Why?
brian redban
Well, the biggest problem would be, though, not doing that, is then people would just abandon their cars there and, like, live in their cars.
joe rogan
So they can't do that.
ari shaffir
Unless they have a two-hour free parking or one-hour free parking.
brian redban
There has to be some kind of law.
joe rogan
No parking for more than two hours.
ari shaffir
You're making it across the board.
joe rogan
That I don't mind.
That I don't mind.
If someone violates like a normal rule and then you give them a ticket to kind of keep order, you know, hey man, you can't just be leaving your car parked sideways like that douchebag.
You get a ticket for that.
ari shaffir
But meters in general, you're not...
joe rogan
Yeah, but meters, man?
Fuck that.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
That's gross.
brian redban
Especially the long ones.
If you go to LA, sometimes there's like 20 signs.
And you seriously just have to sit there and it's like a video game trying to read all the signs.
I gotta take it the last time we were in Pasadena.
Because it was like, no parking from this hour and this hour.
Tuesdays, you can't park here at all after this time.
I just need to take a photo.
joe rogan
You gotta do the math.
You have to do math when you read the fucking parking sign.
ari shaffir
Yeah, the thing is, too, you take a photo and you get a ticket, and what are you gonna do?
You're really gonna fucking fight it?
joe rogan
Yeah, it takes forever.
ari shaffir
You gotta go to court.
joe rogan
It's a fucking...
ari shaffir
How much is a party ticket?
joe rogan
How much is it?
ari shaffir
It's like $60 or $70.
brian redban
Yeah.
ari shaffir
It's like, there's no way.
brian redban
And I always forget to pay them.
ari shaffir
I'm gonna do that work.
brian redban
Yeah, then it doubles.
ari shaffir
It obviously doubles.
joe rogan
You know what really kills me is when cops have quotas.
You know, cops have quotas if they have to reach, if they have to pull over a certain amount of people for a certain amount of things.
I'm pretty sure that's how it works.
brian redban
Yeah, and that's why, like, certain times of the month, you'll see just nonstop cops pulling people over all the time, and then next week you won't see anything.
joe rogan
But what's crazy is, what if no one commits a crime?
I mean, what if we got everybody to keep their shit together for a month, and these cops still have quotas?
That would be a crazy movie.
Like, if a town committed...
ari shaffir
Yeah, got all the cops fired.
joe rogan
Yeah, if you had a big...
Like, say if it was Boulder, Colorado, where it's like 100,000 people.
You could almost get 100,000 people to never commit any crimes.
ari shaffir
Don't speed just for the last week.
joe rogan
For one month, let's show these fucking cops that you can't have quotas that say that, you know, certain X amount of people have to be speeding.
ari shaffir
Just the last week when they're trying to get everybody.
brian redban
Unfortunately, our laws are written in such a way where they can pull you over for anything they probably want to.
They can find a way to pull you over, no matter what.
Like, oh, you didn't turn on your signal three seconds before you merged into the next lane.
That's actually a law, you know, or something like that, where they can pull you over for anything.
unidentified
I bet they get it.
ari shaffir
It's strict, too.
brian redban
You know what I mean?
ari shaffir
Remember Soul Man when he pulled him over for not signaling?
joe rogan
Did you just say, remember Soul Man?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
And then quote a scene.
That's hilarious.
ari shaffir
The cop was following him like three feet behind him when the white guy took tanning pills and turned black.
The cop was following him like three feet behind him and then eventually he did a swerve because someone opened their door, swerved around their door and the cop pulled the lights on.
Switching lines without a signal.
brian redban
Yeah, how risky was that movie when that came out?
I remember thinking that for the first time?
You got a scholarship.
ari shaffir
And then you started dating a black chick.
Whatever happened to that dude?
joe rogan
Is that C. Thomas Howell?
ari shaffir
I think it is.
joe rogan
Where is that guy?
That guy vanished.
ari shaffir
He's another Cuba Gooding Jr. A lot of those actors, you don't understand, they reach a higher level of consciousness and they just kind of disappear into the ether.
brian redban
They probably do the right thing, invest their money and live on an island somewhere and just get out of it.
That's what I would do.
I was in Balboa.
Have you ever heard of Balboa Island?
joe rogan
No.
brian redban
It's this island off of Newport Beach and it costs a dollar to get over on this ferry.
It's awesome.
You just drive onto this ferry and it goes right over.
It's like a dollar.
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
But Catalina is hard to get a ferry, right?
brian redban
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
You get your car over there.
It's more expensive than that.
brian redban
It's super small, though.
And the houses are fucking amazing.
There's not even a cop that lives on this island.
And people just had their doors wide open.
So you'd walk by and just see people, like, sitting in their house.
And they had a Starbucks.
And it was the most peaceful fucking shit ever.
joe rogan
Yeah, small numbers of people with money tend to be peaceful.
brian redban
Yeah, definitely.
So if I got to a certain amount of money, I think, I think I would just take that money, invest it in something that makes me money every month, and just fucking live somewhere like that.
joe rogan
Listen to this motherfucker pretending that he's an investor.
ari shaffir
Yeah, I would just invest in something that makes me money every month.
joe rogan
So simple.
unidentified
So simple.
brian redban
Like property, renting out property.
That's probably one of the easiest things ever if you had money.
joe rogan
No, it's not in this day and age, man.
It's actually really hard.
In fact, there's a reason why when you drive around and you see all these offices for rent.
unidentified
I mean, apartments in Los Angeles.
joe rogan
This is a renter's market, believe it or not.
There's apartments available everywhere, which is really crazy.
What do they expect?
How many people do they expect to move here?
There's so many extra apartments.
How many fucking people are still coming?
When did you move here?
What year was it?
99. Do you notice a discernible difference between 99 and 2011 as far as traffic?
ari shaffir
Less.
joe rogan
You think it's less now?
ari shaffir
Less than like...
I noticed this like a year and a half ago.
It's way less than three years before that.
joe rogan
That's because you just started smoking weed.
ari shaffir
No, no, no.
That's how that is, bro.
joe rogan
You started looking at things different.
ari shaffir
It's because of the recession.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
You think people are driving less?
ari shaffir
I eventually noticed it because I had to stop doing a joke about that.
I was like, why are the freeway so packed if everyone's supposed to be not working?
But then I was like...
joe rogan
Stop doing a joke.
Dude, keep doing that joke.
The freeways are goddamn packed.
ari shaffir
No, I only noticed the opposite.
I'm like, I'm getting to Brea way faster.
I'm getting to all these places way faster.
joe rogan
Well, I think it's just luck.
I think that's just someone not crashing.
You fly over in the 405 at 5 in the afternoon.
ari shaffir
Yeah, there's still some traffic.
It's just not...
It doesn't seem as bad to me.
joe rogan
Orange County is the worst.
That area, like, were you talking about Newport Beach?
ari shaffir
For every...
Oh, Newport Beach is nice.
joe rogan
Getting down there is insane.
Anytime we gotta go to Irvine, you know, we're doing the Irvine improv, anytime we're doing that, I'm always like, oh, here we go.
I started going completely up and around.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
Instead of going by the ocean, I take the 210. I go way the fuck out of my way.
It's like 30 miles longer.
ari shaffir
Oh, really?
joe rogan
It's way above.
But you cruise...
When you go away from the ocean, man, that's when you can just fucking make some traffic movement.
You can make some movement.
You can get some progress done if you go far away from the ocean.
You've got to go away from the ocean and up high.
But as soon as you close in on that ocean, you get like 405...
And the five goes the direction of the ocean.
It's all along the shore.
I mean, it's a couple miles in, but it's along the shore.
You're traveling the same way that the ocean goes.
It's everybody going from Mexico to California and San Diego to California and every fucking weird town in between.
There's just too many goddamn people.
But if you just go up to the 210, you go up high, like to 57 north and go up high, you can actually move.
ari shaffir
Get all around it.
joe rogan
It's crazy, yeah.
There's ways around it.
California, it's way, way, way, way easier to get to where you need to go than, like, say, New York.
If you're in New York and you're fucked, if you're fucked, like, say, if you're in the Bronx and you need to get to Manhattan, you've got a couple different bridges you can take and they're both fucked up.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Or you can go in on the 95, you can do that, and that's going to be fucked up, too.
ari shaffir
That's a don't drive city.
joe rogan
Yeah, good luck, stupid.
Yeah, that city.
To get into Manhattan is...
Like, I used to have an acting class that they made me take, and this lady was always mad because I was always, like, 20 minutes late.
And I'm like, look, I'm sorry, but it took me two and a half hours to get here.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
All the time.
All the time.
ari shaffir
Coming from where?
joe rogan
Coming from New Rochelle, which is like the Bronx.
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
Two and a half hours was normal.
You would get on that highway, and it was one of those...
They built highways so stupid on the East Coast.
They didn't get it.
They didn't get it.
They didn't know there was going to be that many people there.
So these highways are all like fucking three lanes on each side, four lanes at the most.
They don't have these giant, expansive, 405-style, eight, nine-lane highways.
They don't have them.
They're small.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Especially Boston.
I go on the Massachusetts Turnpike.
I go on the Turnpike when I go back home, and I can't believe they call this a Turnpike.
It's fucking two lanes on each side.
It's ridiculously small.
It's such a small little-ass shitbag road.
Like the way to get to the Cape.
unidentified
Just like, my God, this little tiny-ass road.
joe rogan
They didn't anticipate that shit at all.
ari shaffir
That many people...
joe rogan
But that's not that long ago, man.
Think about it.
The invention of the automobile was only 100 years ago, right?
A little bit more than that.
It was like the early 1800s.
Is that what it was?
When did Henry Ford...
No, 1900s.
ari shaffir
Those cities were always overcrowded.
People moved right up to the roads immediately.
joe rogan
Yeah, when did the automobile get invented?
ari shaffir
1941. Yeah?
unidentified
No.
ari shaffir
No.
unidentified
I like how you just did that.
ari shaffir
I was having the Holocaust down.
unidentified
Automobile.
Let's see.
joe rogan
The auto car.
Let's see.
What year was this motherfucker?
unidentified
Hmm...
brian redban
Is there a car, like an SUV, that gets super awesome gas mileage like a Priya or anything like that yet?
ari shaffir
Is there a car that gets awesome gas mileage?
brian redban
Like an SUV-typed car yet.
ari shaffir
They have hybrids, SUV hybrids.
joe rogan
Wow, sweat this.
The first fucking steam-powered vehicle was designed by this dude who was a Flemish member of a Jesuit mission in China in 1672. Really?
Yeah.
It was a scale model for the Chinese emperor.
Wow.
It was an inability to carry a driver or a passenger, but this guy figured that out in 1672. That's fucking incredible.
And then in 1752, some Russian dude constructed a human-pedaled four-wheeled auto-running carriage and proposed to equip it with an odometer to use the same principle for making a self-pedaled switch.
ari shaffir
How long now would it take, once you design that steam-powered model, until you just fucking put it into practice in a real car?
Eight years?
joe rogan
Today?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I don't know.
I have no idea, but it wouldn't take long.
unidentified
What would you guess?
joe rogan
It wouldn't take as many years as it would back then.
ari shaffir
It was eight years before somebody even came up with something similar.
joe rogan
You had to make your own tools to work on it.
ari shaffir
That's a good point.
joe rogan
You know, how about that?
ari shaffir
You just can't go to Heckinger's.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can't just fucking go to Pet Boy's.
unidentified
They still have Heckinger's?
ari shaffir
I think they went out of business.
I forgot about that name.
joe rogan
How crazy would that be?
You would have to make a machine and then make the parts and then make the fucking tools to work on the machine.
ari shaffir
Call a blacksmith.
joe rogan
So apparently it was like they got their shit together where, you know, it was like the late 1800s it seems like they started really, really rocking it.
Yeah.
I thought it was, I thought that Ford, Henry Ford invented the car.
Isn't that what we're always told?
ari shaffir
I think he was the first mass producer.
brian redban
Yeah, mass producer.
ari shaffir
What's it called mine?
brian redban
Manufacturer.
joe rogan
Because it says that Germany was the first, the first automobile powered by its own four-stroke cycle gasoline engine was built in Mannheim, Germany in 1885. Germany.
unidentified
Germany.
joe rogan
Could you imagine how fucking weird it must have been even thinking about other countries that are on the other side of the ocean in 1885?
When we think about Germany or we think about England, at least for me, I've been there.
I've been to both of them a couple of times.
ari shaffir
When America seceded.
People in England were like, I don't even know anyone who's even been there.
I don't even know anyone.
joe rogan
Nobody knew anyone.
Because if you went there, you never went back.
You know, it takes too long.
It's months.
Like, how long does it take on a boat to get to America?
ari shaffir
A long time.
Right now, it's at least a week, right?
joe rogan
And a lot of people die along the way.
ari shaffir
My dad took a boat here.
joe rogan
Oh, my grandparents did.
My grandparents both came by boat.
brian redban
Did he sneak in?
ari shaffir
He did not sneak in, no.
joe rogan
They let Jews in, dude.
They don't even need green cards.
They go, come on in, we need more Jews.
But if you're an Arab or a Mexican, they go, hey, get in that room over here.
brian redban
You know Ari's doing more Amazing Racist videos?
joe rogan
Are you really?
ari shaffir
Yeah, she did so.
Find the juice.
joe rogan
Brian said that with an unhappy tone.
Did you hear that?
Did you catch that?
A judgmental tone.
brian redban
I worry about it.
I worry about it a little already.
joe rogan
What are you doing?
What are the next ones?
ari shaffir
Jews.
joe rogan
Okay, that's good.
ari shaffir
I went to a Jewish market.
joe rogan
White people in general are easy to pick on.
You should go only after white people with those.
ari shaffir
It's hard.
I thought for years of how to get to whites, and I can't think of anything.
There's no angle that gets them offended as a race.
joe rogan
What are you talking about?
ari shaffir
It would have to be an individual thing, like a black guy married your daughter.
joe rogan
No flavor.
ari shaffir
But that won't get them mad to say, look at me pointing out that white people have little dicks.
joe rogan
So what you're saying, what an angle to do for a sketch.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Let's throw it up on Twitter, man.
People will come up with an angle for you.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
But the thing is, it would have to make them mad just seeing it.
Like the Klan makes black people mad just seeing it.
joe rogan
The only way it's going to be making white people mad is if you make black people move into their neighborhood and start partying.
Yeah.
ari shaffir
But that won't offend them as a race.
When white people see that at home, they won't get offended.
joe rogan
Right.
I see what you're saying.
ari shaffir
Only the people in that neighborhood will be upset.
joe rogan
You do racist shit around black people, like wear a KKK outfit, and they want to beat your ass.
They're offended.
But you can't do that to white people.
ari shaffir
Just by the image, they get upset about it.
joe rogan
It's true.
White people dominated, unfortunately.
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
And there's a lot of white people that are just cool with things.
joe rogan
You say unfortunately, but look, if you want to look historically...
ari shaffir
I'd way rather be on the team win.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And as far as, like, giant groups of people that run shit, what are the options?
There's white people, black people, Asians, and Arabs, right?
Those are the options of giant groups of people that are running shit.
ari shaffir
Arabs, yeah.
joe rogan
Right?
Those are the entire groups.
And if you look at all of them, it seems like if America is the one that's run by the white people, it seems like you can get away with the most corporate crime, but it seems like you're pretty hard on the other kind of crime.
ari shaffir
China, you can get away with a lot of corporate crime.
joe rogan
Yes.
ari shaffir
They just bootleg stuff.
brian redban
That's because they blend in so easily.
They're human races camouflaged.
joe rogan
Did you hear what they did?
They had fake Apple stores selling fake Apple products, and the employees, the people that were working there, actually thought they were working for Apple.
ari shaffir
Wow!
joe rogan
Good one!
brian redban
And it's actually not against the law for them to do that, but they have to get the special permits, and only three of the stores or two of the stores actually had the permits, but the other ones didn't.
joe rogan
Isn't that hilarious?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
But if you looked at that, it seems like China would be way suppressive.
But then you've got to look at it and go, well, yeah, maybe it's because there's a billion fucking people over there, man.
ari shaffir
Yeah, they're like, if you've got a copy of the fucking Matrix, yeah, I guess copy it and tell it to people what they want.
joe rogan
They've got other shit to worry about.
When there's a billion fucking people and everybody's eating bugs because there's no food, you know, you go over to China, man, they eat bugs.
You know, it's true.
They eat a lot of other things, but they eat a lot of bugs.
It's real common.
ari shaffir
They feed kimchi sauce to their babies in bottles.
unidentified
Really?
Kimchi sauce?
What?
ari shaffir
No.
joe rogan
How dare you?
I was like, I love kimchi, but it's so spicy.
brian redban
That's hilarious.
joe rogan
It's funny how babies have taste buds, though, for certain shit.
Like, my littlest baby, the one that's only a year and three months, she loves spicy shit.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, she grabs pepperoni, and I'm looking at her, and I'm like, oh, she's going to hate this.
She's like, give me more.
Like, she got some hot sauce the other day and loved it.
ari shaffir
Which one?
joe rogan
The little one.
The tiny one.
ari shaffir
Maybe she doesn't have the burn buds yet.
joe rogan
It wasn't real hot.
It was like tapatillo.
But it was on like a little piece of chicken.
It was a little piece of chicken and she fucking dug in, man.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
ari shaffir
Train her now.
joe rogan
Spicy garlic sauce.
It was like a really garlicky sauce.
She was licking it up.
She liked it.
It's weird.
ari shaffir
Nice.
joe rogan
But the other one, man, fuck.
You can't get anything.
You just start crying.
unidentified
It's weird.
joe rogan
Spicy!
unidentified
Spicy!
joe rogan
Like, mild-ass Indian food.
Super mild.
She'll start crying.
ari shaffir
I made my grandfather's pickle recipe.
We did it again.
Me and Taylor did it.
joe rogan
Spicy pickles?
ari shaffir
Yeah, I didn't put in five times as much too salt by accident.
brian redban
You put five times too much?
ari shaffir
Yeah, but when we made them, I put two cups instead of, like, two pinches.
It was, like, something ridiculous.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
brian redban
Yeah.
ari shaffir
And I still try to eat through those pickles.
I'm like, I made them.
I'm gonna give them a go.
brian redban
Ugh.
ari shaffir
But yeah, this time we came out right.
They're so good.
And they're so spicy.
You get the sweat under the eyes.
joe rogan
Really?
ari shaffir
Yeah, it's so good, but it's ugh.
brian redban
I was wondering if I was wrong.
I'm so happy with it.
We would eat one because we spent a month doing this shit.
ari shaffir
Yeah, leave them out of the sun.
brian redban
And then we would eat one.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's good.
My favorite all-time hot sauce is El Yucateca.
You know that shit?
unidentified
Yeah, I've had that.
joe rogan
The Mexican hot sauce.
ari shaffir
They had that at the griddle.
joe rogan
The green habanero.
ari shaffir
Yeah, that's good.
joe rogan
God damn, it's so good.
I forgot how good it was until we started doing Fear Factor again because the caterers always have that shit.
ari shaffir
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
And the caterers had some, and I threw some on some carne asada the other day.
I'm like, God damn, this is good.
It's just so flavorful and powerful.
But that's like the real, legit Mexican shit.
It's got a Spanish label.
That's the real shit.
ari shaffir
You can get that by like 30 cents a bottle.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's amazing how many different cultures have just like so much different flavor to their foods.
Mexican food, there's a certain style of cooking and eating.
Spicy as fuck.
Some of their salsa is incredible.
And then you look at Irish food.
It's like boiled potatoes, boiled corned beef, boiled sauerkraut.
ari shaffir
That's why the Italians have the...
A lot of it is a result of the industries and stuff.
The Italians were all poor, so they just made pasta.
It's the cheapest, easiest stuff to make.
joe rogan
Yeah, it fills your stomach.
ari shaffir
Yeah, and they just shape it differently.
That's the only variety you get is by shaping it slightly differently.
joe rogan
It is really amazing when you think about how the food defines how people behave too, like connected to how you feel like they behave.
Like Italians are all about passion and their food is very passionate and rich and delicious and flavorful.
But then you go with the Irish and they're like, have another beer.
They're just watering themselves down with beer and smoking cigarettes.
Looking at how ugly the women are.
Meanwhile, Irish people listening to this podcast are very angry at me right now.
unidentified
What are you talking about?
joe rogan
It's okay, I'm ugly too.
unidentified
We're passionate.
joe rogan
We're all ugly.
We're passionate too, mate.
Northern Ireland is the craziest place I've ever been.
Where you drive around and...
ari shaffir
There was fighting?
joe rogan
Well, there's a lot of fighting in Ireland.
I saw a lot of fighting.
But one of the things in Northern Ireland that's really crazy is that all the cars are armored.
They all have these giant plates of steel all around because they had to deal with a lot of bombings.
The whole IRA thing, the Protestants versus the Catholics.
Most people in America are unaware of how much Ireland and Northern Ireland, how much they went through.
There was an incredible amount of bloodshed over there.
And because of that, when we went out, I did a gig with my boy Dave Bishop.
And then we went out and we went out to some fucking local place.
And the...
Cars that were all around us.
It was like we were in a fucking Mad Max movie.
unidentified
Why?
ari shaffir
They're all like old, old cars?
joe rogan
No, they're all covered with steel.
Like they're armored.
ari shaffir
For guns?
joe rogan
The windows for bombs.
The windows of the cop cars had steel mesh over them.
And there was like plates and plates in the front of the car and plates on the side.
They were like these big armored fucking crazy shells over their cop cars.
I was like, wow.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
What a fucking weird place this is.
And you couldn't understand a goddamn word anybody said.
It's amazing that they call that shit English.
I talked to some dude in a club.
We were in the little bar downstairs at the hotel we were all staying at.
And we were all drinking with this dude.
And he was talking to me for two hours.
And all I heard, the whole two hours, the only words I heard was, I'll fight anyone.
He was talking to me about fires.
Just drinking and talking about how he'll fight any man.
He really would.
He would have fought anyone.
unidentified
Anyone in front of him who just got his ass.
joe rogan
He'll bite you and fucking try to claw your eyes out.
It's so dreary over there, man.
I've never eaten at a place that had worse food.
Northern Ireland, we had Chinese food there.
It was literally like dogs and cats and pigeons.
It was fucking terrible.
brian redban
Was there porridge good at least?
Was there anything that was good?
joe rogan
I can't fuck up eggs, so I had a lot of eggs there.
But it was, that's the, I mean, it could obviously be just where I went.
But the parts that I went, you know, I got the worst food ever.
We stayed at a nice hotel.
Food was terrible.
ari shaffir
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah, it was just like, it was off.
Like, you're eating the beef, and you're like, What the fuck is wrong with this beef?
This is a piece of steak, but it tastes completely different.
Like in Australia, their beef is completely different than American beef.
And it's good.
It's very good.
Don't get me wrong.
Australia is fantastic.
ari shaffir
Sydney.
joe rogan
I've been to Sydney twice.
It's amazing.
No, because I've had free-range too.
I eat grass-fed beef.
That's what most of the time I eat.
I like corn-fed because it's fattier and you get a little bit more fat in the cooking.
But there's a flavor to grass-fed that I prefer.
And it's a healthier animal, for sure.
Because when you're giving them corn, that is completely outside of their diet in the natural world.
It's a grain as opposed to a grass.
So their bodies get super fat and disgusting.
That's why they're so delicious.
ari shaffir
I said they're grass-fed Meat is actually fat burning.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
That makes sense.
ari shaffir
It just has the opposite effect on your system.
joe rogan
Makes sense because we're not supposed to be eating an animal that's been force fed some fucked up food to keep it fat.
That's a weird thing, man.
But the difference is the food over in Australia.
The beef was delicious.
The steak was delicious.
But it was like pink inside.
It was like a piece of pork chop.
It was a completely different shade.
It was a way lighter shade.
When I get a medium rare steak, you cut into it and you see that juicy red savage flesh.
Meanwhile, this is like a pork chop.
This is white in there.
It was very good, but this is weird.
England, it looked like steak.
It looked similar when I was cutting it open, but it tasted different.
It tasted like it was sick or something.
ari shaffir
They just don't put any spice in it or something?
joe rogan
Not in England, excuse me, Northern Ireland.
I've had some great food in England.
People say that the food in England is bad, but it's nothing compared to Northern Ireland.
I've had some delicious food.
ari shaffir
They have amazing restaurants in England, right?
joe rogan
England's got some great places.
It's just, you know, when you go to a place and the food's different.
You know, like when you go get breakfast, like English breakfast, you get an English breakfast, they bring you beans.
ari shaffir
Have you ever had crumpets?
joe rogan
Yes.
ari shaffir
They're awesome.
joe rogan
They're pretty good.
But English breakfast, they give you beans, and they call bangers, and bangers are sausage, and like a broiled tomato all the time.
ari shaffir
That's your breakfast?
brian redban
I hate broiled tomatoes.
joe rogan
I don't get that, broiling a tomato, but it's super common over there.
ari shaffir
Is that what they do with Zenko?
brian redban
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Ew, yeah.
joe rogan
Well, it falls apart a little.
It's a little cooked, but I don't get it.
Just give me a piece of fucking tomato.
You have to improve the flavor of tomato by cooking it.
unidentified
I wonder if that's something you start liking when you're like 70. It's not like a zucchini.
joe rogan
If you grill zucchini, it tastes kind of cool.
It tastes different.
If you grill a tomato, it's not better.
ari shaffir
I don't know.
joe rogan
I don't know either.
ari shaffir
I met a Scottish comic who was like 23 in Montreal.
You couldn't understand a word he said.
joe rogan
Impossible.
ari shaffir
It was like people were trying, like laughing at the idea of his accent, and then it was just like, we don't understand any of this.
And it's all English.
It was amazing to watch.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's interesting that the English language, if you go to all these different parts of the globe and hear the variations from southern Georgia to Northern Ireland, and you hear the variations of the same words and what we use and don't use, it really is almost like it's a bunch of different languages.
It's getting close.
It's getting close to morphing off into its own separate branch.
If people were separate, the thing that fucked everybody...
ari shaffir
Yeah, they all changed separately.
joe rogan
Yeah.
But they're connected now.
Now it's like people are inexorably connected with the internet, with mass media.
You can hear the way people use those words all over the world.
And they're going to stay reasonably close to the way they are now.
But if people weren't connected, if they were separated by big chunks of water or something like that, they would probably develop to a bunch of different languages.
Probably.
ari shaffir
Completely different over time.
Have you ever read Trainspotting?
joe rogan
Yes.
ari shaffir
I watched that last night.
Oh, really?
You know how it's written in vernacular?
It's like you have to piece together what they're saying.
Right, right, right.
Eventually that would sort of become the written language.
joe rogan
Yes.
ari shaffir
And then eventually certain words that you have completely different words, like the lift in England for the elevator, you would just start using those words and it would become a different language.
Still with our numerals or something.
joe rogan
Some guy was on the radio the other day and he was talking about how diverse England is and how many different languages are spoken in England because they were talking about the riots.
And they were talking about 300 different languages.
And I went, what?
I didn't even know there were 300 languages.
I thought there was probably like 30 languages.
ari shaffir
There's like a bunch of Indians.
joe rogan
A bunch of different Indian languages?
You mean American Indian or India?
ari shaffir
No, no, no, like India.
joe rogan
Really?
ari shaffir
I think there's like a bunch, like 30 or 40 there.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
ari shaffir
I think some of those you might be able to understand, like if you know one, you might be able to understand a couple others, like Spanish and Italian.
joe rogan
Well, how wacky is China that there's a bunch all in the same country, a bunch of different ways to talk Chinese?
Yeah.
ari shaffir
I thought it was just two.
I thought it was...
joe rogan
Cantonese and Mandarin.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
But isn't there various dialects of each one of them?
ari shaffir
Yeah, there probably are.
The areas are so huge.
joe rogan
So a person who speaks Cantonese can't understand a person who speaks Mandarin at all?
ari shaffir
I think it's a completely different language, but I don't know.
unidentified
Fuck!
joe rogan
That's insane!
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Who the fuck came up with language first?
Did we know what the oldest language was?
ari shaffir
No.
joe rogan
No.
We know about written.
We know the oldest written shit, as far as we know today, is Sumer.
They think it's Sumerian text.
6,000?
That's the oldest shit we've ever seen written down.
But what throws that into fucked up and makes it questionable is this new thing they found in Turkey over the last couple decades.
They found this new site in Turkey called Gobekli Tepe.
Gobekli Tepe and it's at least 6,000 years older than Sumer and it's all like really intricately carved Does that have language there?
We don't know, though.
This is 6,000 years earlier, but they didn't find any language.
Well, who knows?
You know, it's like when you find a culture that's that fucking old, you're lucky you're finding anything.
You know, the land eats everything.
If you left a car alone for 16,000 years, there's no car left when you come back, man.
brian redban
It'll turn to sand.
joe rogan
Yeah, it'll get absorbed by the earth, slowly but surely, one little speck at a time.
I mean, if you've ever gone to an old junkyard and you see a car from like 1940, literally, it's falling apart.
There's holes in it.
It's dissolving.
ari shaffir
It's so rusty, it's just burning through.
joe rogan
It'll dissolve.
ari shaffir
The earth will eat it.
So the metal just goes back into the ground.
joe rogan
The metal just becomes dirt.
It becomes a part of the soil.
When we look at a culture that's that old, you only find rock.
You're not going to find anything else.
You might find some carbon from a fire.
You might find some arrowheads and shit like that.
But it's got to be hard, hard rock or fossils.
You know, you're going to find, like, bodies, like human bodies, you know, a semi-fossilized state.
This is too long ago.
You're not going to find any paper.
If they made paper, good luck.
You won't find it.
You're not going to find any metal tools.
Those are gone.
The Earth ate those.
brian redban
I thought of something that was really big the other day about one of your theories about, you know, how, like, civilization started over type thing.
I met that robot.
Not me, but I saw that robot at Disneyland, the Honda robot, the owl.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
brian redban
I got to see it run and do the stare thing.
I'm looking at it and I'm like, one day this thing's going to kill me and stuff like that.
They're going to make robots and it's going to turn on you and stuff like that.
And what if the robots kill the whole entire human race and then a virus or something like that destroys all the robots and kills all the robots.
And then a thousand years later, there's nothing.
All the, you know, robots turn to sand because, like, they disintegrate.
And then there's two people, like humans, like hiding in a cave somewhere, you know, living on the dead bodies and smoking crack.
And then they make a kid and they're Like Jesus and stuff like that.
And they rebuild the whole race again.
But they're so fucked up on crap and stupid because they were just living in a cave the whole time.
Then the human race starts over again.
And then we try to build robots again.
And then they kill us off again.
And two other crack addicts in the caves.
That's what I was thinking at Disneyland Stone.
ari shaffir
That's the entire plot of Battlestar Galactica.
joe rogan
Yeah, it is.
The Cylons.
Yeah, the Cylons take over.
And you know what?
It's a very possible plot.
The idea that we can make intelligent life, and we're super close to doing that.
We're super close to having some sort of an artificial intelligence that you can communicate with that actually even develops emotions.
They're going to have like emotional responses programmed into these fucking things.
And for us to be arrogantly assuming that that's never going to be a problem because they're not really alive.
They're not really.
But if we create a system that responds as if it was alive, you know, if that system has self-realization, if that system becomes sentient and realizes that it has to protect itself, and then it defends itself against another system, that is just as alive as a virus.
It's just as alive as an animal that wants to eat you.
It's just as alive as anything.
That's alive, man.
You've created some thing Yes, it may not have cells and bone as you think of life, but it's responding and moving and interacting and it's intelligent.
And you've actually made this fucking thing a brain.
You've built this thing, the ability to interact with other brains, other technologically created brains, and you've got a whole network of beings, beings that have it within their best interest to keep you dead and them alive.
That's all super duper possible.
It just seems so foreign to us.
It seems preposterous because our lives, our whole lives, the way we have looked at machines is like, this is some shit people made.
We have full control of it.
We're completely arrogant about it.
We have full control over the stuff we make.
brian redban
Have you ever seen that robot run?
unidentified
Yes.
brian redban
It leaves the ground just like a human.
When you run, there's a point where both of your feet are off the ground.
It does the same thing.
It was amazing.
joe rogan
It's amazing.
And it's just the beginning.
It's just the beginning.
It's like iRobot.
iRobot is going to be legit, man.
They're really going to have a robot that is as functional as a human body.
It's going to move like a human body, but it's going to be metal.
It's going to have artificial tissue that won't break or rip or tear, but it'll look like human tissue.
It's going to be incredible.
It's just a matter of time.
If you look at 1800 and what people had in 1900 and the beginning of this century in 2000, and then compare it to 1000 years ago.
You know, there's obviously been some radical changes in 1900 to 2000 to 2011. There's radical, radical changes.
And those radical changes, you took the cream of the crop shit that we have today, like a fucking helicopter and a 911 turbo, and you brought them to 1600. There's no way if Leonardo da Vinci sat and looked at that he could have ever predicted a 911 turbo.
He would get in that thing, he'd be like, what the fuck?
Like, wow, really?
This is fucking crazy!
Like, think of someone who, like, Da Vinci invented so many crazy things, you know, had drawings for flying machines and all sorts of different things that he created, but if you showed him what actually occurred in all Our lifetime, which we completely take for granted.
ari shaffir
Gun turrets.
joe rogan
It's like space 1999 shit.
It's like science fiction.
So, for sure, if these guys are making robots like this Honda robot, which is amazing, in 2011, 2,211, fuck, man, it is going to be like Blade Runner.
ari shaffir
As long as I'm dead, I don't...
joe rogan
You might not be dead.
That's the crazy thing.
With the science and technology the way it is today, you might not be dead at all.
There might be a renew pill where you can take within our lifetime that renews your cells and reprograms your DNA to behave as if it's young.
You might watch someone.
ari shaffir
They're going to have a vaccine for aging at some point.
So the people that haven't had it, you have to take it when you're a really little baby.
So people who haven't got the vaccine are all going to die.
joe rogan
Maybe.
That's a possibility.
ari shaffir
You're just going to watch them all go.
joe rogan
More likely they'll manipulate the fact that the cells recreate themselves every seven years.
Everything except the neurons is completely replaced every seven years.
So what they'll do is they'll reprogram all these cells to come back fresh and young.
And that's what they'll do.
So over a seven-year period, you'll take this shit.
And over a seven-year period, you'll go from being some old lady to some hot young 20-year-old bitch.
unidentified
Bam!
joe rogan
Bam!
brian redban
Or if you just didn't get older, you know, like whatever time you took that.
joe rogan
That's possible too.
brian redban
That's going to be the beginning.
joe rogan
Oh, it will.
It will.
No question about it.
Just think what I said.
If your tissue could recreate itself, the thing is you've got to get it to recreate itself in a state that's not damaged, like scars.
If you think about it, if you have a scar, that scar, I have a scar, a big one on my finger that I got when I was like nine.
But that scar is still here when I'm 44. Why is it still here?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Why is it still here if everything's recreating?
Because it's recreating in this damaged state.
You would have to get your cells to not recreate in a state of an old person whose fucking engine's misfiring.
You want to get it to a mature person of around 25 years of age, physically.
That's what you want.
brian redban
I think it's more like they're just going to take your head off RoboCop style and put you on a RoboCop body.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I don't think it'll be a biological solution if it gets to that.
I think it'll be a matter of recreating your consciousness in a form of like a computer code.
If an operating system works for the Mac and an operating system works for the PC, what the fuck is a human being?
What is the driving mechanism behind what makes a person want to eat and fuck and be successful and be curious?
What the fuck is under the surface?
Is it just a bunch of ones and zeros?
If it's not, is it possible to exactly recreate it with a bunch of ones and zeros?
That's the real question.
Is it possible to take a human being's consciousness and completely recreate it to the point where all of a sudden you're switched on and, you know, you're switched on in this body, like you wake up one day and you don't even fucking know that you are a computer code in a machine and that your entire life is absolutely, completely, 100% artificial.
It's just being fed to this computer code through this, you know, this program that someone has created.
That is all...
That's not, like, completely ridiculous.
That's not, like, even as ridiculous as time travel.
And that's not ridiculous, you know?
Although there's some scientists that believe...
That you can never bypass the speed of light, so time travel will be impossible.
But I think they just say that for now.
I think there's nothing that's gonna eventually not be possible.
I think it'll just be a matter of how much power can we generate in order to manipulate our surroundings to make everything possible.
It's a matter of time.
Like I said, what's impossible today was not, I mean, what was impossible 200 years ago is not impossible today.
So when you hear scientists saying that this is impossible, that doesn't mean it's impossible.
It just means as far as what we know now.
And we don't know shit.
I mean, we're brilliant in comparison to cavemen, but in comparison to understanding just the very nature of the universe and subatomic particles, they lose all fucking rules go out the window when you go subatomic.
They have things where a particle can be in a super state, where it's in a state of moving and it's still at the same time.
What the fuck does that even mean?
And the idea that you can look at something, and as you're looking at it, you change the behavior of it, and that you can watch an event, and the observer actually changes the actual atoms that are moving.
What the fuck?
How is that possible?
We don't know.
We don't know.
So to say that people know a lot, yeah, we know a lot for people.
We know a lot for people.
But there's some shit that we don't understand at all.
They don't even know why the universe stays together.
They don't know why it doesn't just fly apart.
You know, this dark matter thing is like, you know, they don't know what the fuck that is.
They're just guessing.
brian redban
It's probably just vinegar or something like that.
joe rogan
They realize it is probably like douche vinegar.
You know what they figured out?
They figured out that there's some sort of an antimatter-like layer to the Van Allen radiation belts.
That there's a layer of antimatter out there.
I don't even know what the fuck that means.
But that's incredible that there's some shit that they've been talking about using for weapons forever.
They've been talking about antimatter weapons forever.
Because if you could conceivably create an antimatter weapon, it would be just as big of a leap as nuclear weapons were to like arrows.
Yeah, things just fucking go bye-bye.
brian redban
It's just cool, too.
ari shaffir
Could you imagine?
joe rogan
Imagine if we went to Afghanistan, if they tried antimatter weapons on Afghanistan, and we went there, and Afghanistan was like a bowl, a ceramic bowl, like white and shiny, and there was literally nothing else there.
It was like the whole thing was just white and shiny, like ceramic.
That's not outside the realm of possibilities.
ari shaffir
You know why?
Because we already...
joe rogan
Yeah, we did that.
ari shaffir
Everyone, this is what I realized today, I was talking to Tony, but it was like, everyone's like, oh, we can't trust the Russians with nuclear weapons, we can't trust the Chinese with nuclear weapons or the Koreans.
It's like, we're the only ones that have set them off.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
We're the only ones, and we did it twice.
joe rogan
Oh, no, Russians have detonated them for practice.
ari shaffir
Against people.
joe rogan
Yeah, we're the only ones against people.
ari shaffir
And we're like, oh, we can't trust them, but we can't trust us.
We're the ones we can't trust.
They shouldn't trust us.
joe rogan
It's us and we're.
These are people that existed a long time ago.
I mean, the idea that we're on a team with those douchebags.
unidentified
Yeah.
brian redban
I didn't do shit.
joe rogan
They didn't just blow up civilians.
The word is that the Japanese were trying to surrender for a long time, man.
ari shaffir
And they said no because they wanted to test it?
joe rogan
Well, they wanted to fucking do it.
It was not really a test.
They wanted to let everybody know what's up.
ari shaffir
Twice.
joe rogan
Drop bombs on your moms.
ari shaffir
Once wasn't enough.
joe rogan
Fuck car alarms.
The idea that you're going to take this fucking thing that harnesses the power of the sun and you're just going to drop it on some people you don't even know.
And it's okay because we're at war.
This is like...
These aren't soldiers.
These are just some people going about their business.
ari shaffir
Yeah, people are like, I don't know how to get involved with politics.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
And then all of a sudden, they're obliterated.
They never were.
joe rogan
Isn't it crazy?
They didn't even have jet engines back there.
They had a propeller plane.
And they dropped it out of this propeller plane.
ari shaffir
And then they had to do a 360, or 180, excuse me, and fucking get out of there.
joe rogan
Is that what they had to do?
ari shaffir
Because the bomb would follow, like physics bomb follows the plane.
joe rogan
How high up would they let it go?
ari shaffir
I don't know.
joe rogan
It's amazing they have video footage of that.
ari shaffir
Of them doing it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
They must have got fucked up by radiation, no?
ari shaffir
Probably, right?
joe rogan
Probably.
ari shaffir
As soon as it hit, it fucking went.
joe rogan
There's so many people that got fucked up by radiation.
ari shaffir
I wonder how long those guys lived.
joe rogan
That's a good question.
We've talked about it on stage, the videos of guys running towards the blasts, like the army where they used to blow off bombs and have them run towards the bomb.
They did that a lot.
Obviously, that would never happen today.
Have you tried to get an American soldier today to run towards a blast?
He's going to shoot you in the dick.
ari shaffir
Towards a mushroom cloud.
joe rogan
What?
ari shaffir
No one's coming out of there, man.
unidentified
For a test.
joe rogan
I'm going to run towards that for a test.
We know now, the average person knows that that shit will kill you.
unidentified
Officer Kardashian, I want you to run past that.
joe rogan
I watched the Kim Kardashian commercial.
She was showing some clothes that she had.
And she was talking about how she likes this look and likes that look.
And sometimes I wear this and I wear it with a dress.
I wear it with a jacket because it makes it a little bit more saucy.
ari shaffir
And I'm like, wow.
Why is anyone listening to you on anything?
joe rogan
You vapid.
brian redban
Isn't it amazing how many people sponsor her?
Her face is on everything.
If you walk through JCPenney's or Macy's or whatever it is, you'll see her face a million times for a million different products.
joe rogan
And magazines, man.
Every fucking magazine has her face on the cover.
It's incredible.
The girl's making bank.
You can't hate her for that.
You can't hate her for any of it.
I don't hate her.
She's just so dumb.
It's so amazing that we have fixated on this.
And, you know, she has a very pretty face.
Don't get me wrong.
But it's always getting worked on.
Like, every now and then it'll get all puffy and shit because she's getting injections and there's all these before and after pictures.
It does look good, but you know what I'm saying?
There's certain girls that just look like Angelina Jolie.
She has this face, especially when she was young.
You just look at it and go, wow, that is a perfect symmetrical face.
I can understand that face being everywhere.
And this girl, Kim Kardashian, she's pretty.
She's hot.
She's got some big titties and a big ass and everything.
It's all good.
But it's not that good enough to be focusing so much time on it.
It's not that.
It's like people are addicted to her.
It's like it's cigarettes.
It's like cigarettes aren't that good.
You know, you smoke one in the beginning and you've never smoked a cigarette.
You're like, why would I keep doing this?
But after a while, you get addicted to it.
It becomes something you're used to.
Now it's like these magazines are addicted to putting Kim Kardashian everywhere.
It's like you're making a big deal out of absolutely nothing.
She's just a person.
It's not bad, not hating her.
She's just a girl out there, you know, getting hers by, you know, being in a show that follows her around.
But once you start following someone around and you start tuning into that, man, it's like tricky.
It is like addictive.
It's like you get programmed with wanting to know, well, there's a conflict going on with her and her sister's boyfriend.
I wonder how they're going to resolve that.
ari shaffir
Yeah, that's why I don't watch them.
You just get addicted.
You can't help it.
brian redban
She just tried to sue Old Navy because a friend of ours, or a friend of mine is Melissa Molinaro.
Do I know her?
Well, she's friends of Aubrey's, and I don't think you ever met her.
joe rogan
Okay.
brian redban
But she was on an Old Navy commercial, and she's just singing and dancing.
It was a commercial.
And the Kardashian, or Kim Kardashian, said, no, that's...
People think that's me.
And so she tried to sue Old Navy.
ari shaffir
Does she look like her?
brian redban
She does kind of look like her.
She looks like a hotter version of Kim Kardashian.
joe rogan
How could you say that?
But that's ridiculous.
How could you say that this is what the girl looks like?
You're not allowed to use this girl.
This girl looks like that, but you're not allowed to use her because she looks too much like me.
ari shaffir
Did Kim Kardashian used to do ads for them?
brian redban
I don't think so.
joe rogan
Even if she did, so fucking what?
This girl has her own face.
You can't sue someone for using a pretty girl's face because that pretty girl happens to look like you.
Someone that pretty girl is never allowed to work again?
So what, dude?
Even if they were trying to replace her, if this girl has her own face and this company chooses, you know what, I like this girl, she looks like Kim Kardashian, but she's prettier and she's unknown, let's use her.
They should be more than allowed to do that.
ari shaffir
When they dropped her as a spokesman but they used her voice anyway?
joe rogan
No, that's different.
Here's a perfect example.
Say, what if someone decides to do some sort of video game or something about Fear Factor, and they have a dude pretend to be me, and he looks kind of like me, and he talks kind of like me, and they say it's me.
Well, then I can sue them.
Then I can say, hey, that's not me.
But if you decide to do Fear Factor and you go and get some dude who looks like me and he's good at it and he just does it, I can't sue you.
He's just doing it.
Even if he's imitating me.
Even if he's imitating me.
If he replaces me and he's doing the show the way I do the show, I still can't sue him.
ari shaffir
I don't think so.
I think that's wrong.
If they're trying to pass someone off as you.
brian redban
Yeah, but they...
joe rogan
But they're not.
brian redban
Kim Kardashian, does she even sing?
joe rogan
Okay, well, what if it says, you know, Fred fucking suck, you know, the host of Fear Factor?
This is, this is, Fred fucking suck just happens to look like me.
ari shaffir
Yeah, I think that would probably be the problem, whether or not they were trying to pass it off as her or not.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, well, you know, you can't...
ari shaffir
I don't know, that's why I asked if she was in an Old Navy commercial.
joe rogan
Here's the thing.
You're protecting this giant multi-millionaire celebrity image when there's a girl who just wants to work.
And she happens to look like this girl.
She should be able to work.
This girl should not have to...
You know, she can't do a shoe ad because she looks too much like Kim Kardashian, and Kim Kardashian does a shoe ad, and it makes the K-Swiss people think that she's cheating on them or something, and what the fuck she makes shoes for.
You know what I mean?
Like, that's not cool.
You don't own other people's face because they look similar to you.
Like, what if a Chinese person tried to do that?
Right?
ari shaffir
There's no copyright laws in China.
joe rogan
But what Brian was talking...
I mean, if they tried to do it in America, I mean, is Brian talking about how many Chinese people...
There's so much less variation in their appearance.
ari shaffir
Maybe that's why there's no copyright laws in China.
unidentified
Maybe, right?
ari shaffir
Because they're like, how are you going to prove it to you?
joe rogan
Right.
Well, not only that, it's just so ridiculous that you would be able to...
Copyright your image when your image is exactly the same image as everybody else's.
If there's a billion men in China and 400 million look like you, holy shit, dude.
ari shaffir
Remember Buck Rogers when they came on that planet that everyone looked alike and it was illegal to wear masks?
unidentified
Really?
ari shaffir
It's illegal take your mask off.
joe rogan
Really?
ari shaffir
Because everyone went crazy because all the boys looked like all the other boys and all the girls like all the other girls.
joe rogan
Buck Rogers.
Is this like the really, really old Buck Rogers?
ari shaffir
No, it wasn't the black and white.
It was with Chewy or whatever the robot's name was.
The little guy that waddled.
joe rogan
Chewy?
ari shaffir
Not Chewy.
It wasn't that.
It was like a little Twiggy or something.
joe rogan
Twiggy?
How many different Buck Rogers did they do?
brian redban
Twiggy's the cute little robot.
Yeah, that's the one.
ari shaffir
It's the one with the guy from Silver Spoons.
joe rogan
The robots back then would just...
ari shaffir
Oh no, the mom from Silver Spoons.
joe rogan
Remember the robots would always roll around?
They would always roll.
Because we couldn't see them move because they couldn't get that technology.
So the robots would always...
ari shaffir
He can just slide by you evenly.
joe rogan
Remember Lost in Space?
Warning!
Warning!
Remember that robot?
That robot was stupid as fuck.
He looked like a popcorn maker.
He had these big claws for fingers.
These useless fucking clamps.
ari shaffir
And by the way, if you landed in any planet, that robot would get stuck instantly.
If it wasn't completely paved evenly, he has no chance of getting up or down.
joe rogan
He can't even get around.
It was stupid.
He rolled around.
They had the technology to get to another planet.
They couldn't make an effective robot.
A robot that can actually walk.
He's rolling around.
Warning!
unidentified
Warning!
ari shaffir
That was state of the art for a while, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
And these fucking people, we're supposed to believe they're just stuck out there in space.
And they keep landing on places where they can breathe the air.
Oh, lucky us.
We can breathe the air out here.
ari shaffir
Here we are again.
joe rogan
And they're hanging out with the one gay guy.
That was the first gay guy on television.
Remember?
ari shaffir
He was always alone with the kids.
joe rogan
Yeah, he was always alone with the kids, and he was always like the father would fucking quiet him down real quick, and he would be all upset.
ari shaffir
And ruining my nap time.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
And he was never a threat to fuck the wife, ever.
ari shaffir
No.
joe rogan
The wife was hot as fuck, all out there in space.
Really, two men supposed to be competing for this one woman, you know?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like in, what is it, um...
The Walking Dead series.
The two cops fighting over the same woman.
That's how it goes in the real jungle, bitches.
That's how it goes.
Sometimes it makes me wonder how I keep from going under.
Yeah, man.
If there's a zombie apocalypse, I'd like to die, please.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
ari shaffir
I just want to be wiped out.
joe rogan
I live through it.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
If there's, like, a meteor impact and the meteor contains spores that turns the survivors into zombies, please land on my head.
Just, let's get it over with.
unidentified
End this.
joe rogan
Yeah, let's end this nice and quickly, please.
ari shaffir
Have you ever seen The Road?
joe rogan
I watched it until the video...
I bought the Blu-ray.
I watched it until he was teaching the boy how to shoot himself in the mouth.
ari shaffir
Shoot himself in the face.
joe rogan
And I said, okay.
I shut it off.
ari shaffir
So he gets raped before he gets killed.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I was like, I don't want this in my mind.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
I read the book.
joe rogan
Yeah, I remember when you were reading it.
You were absorbed, dude.
You were reading when we were on the road.
He'd be sitting next to you on the plane, just like rolling his eyes.
ari shaffir
It's the first book I read in a decade.
It was maybe one of them.
Yeah, we were in some airport.
We were taking two planes a day for like seven days or four days.
joe rogan
Oh, that was the Canadian tour that we went on.
ari shaffir
No direct flights at all.
joe rogan
Well, we were up in the boondocks, man.
We did Grand Prairie and all those weird spots.
We did, like, weird mining towns and shit.
ari shaffir
I met somebody from Grand Prairie.
I was like, oh, I played there once.
And they were like, no, you didn't.
I was like, I swear I did.
They were like, no, you didn't.
joe rogan
That's funny.
They didn't believe you.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Listen, bitch, we played.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
We were there.
Like, very light until, like, 1130 at night.
joe rogan
I'll go anywhere, bro.
I'll go to Grand Prairie for the experience.
ari shaffir
For the experience?
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's a weird place up there, man.
Those are the spots that people only get to go outside for a few months a year.
It's a completely different vibe.
ari shaffir
I have Yuck Yucks, and he challenged me to go to one of those places in the winter.
joe rogan
You'd be crazy.
Don't do it.
ari shaffir
He was like, experience it, man.
See what it's like.
joe rogan
You could die.
ari shaffir
Try.
joe rogan
You could die.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, I have a buddy, one of the people that I work with on Fear Factor, who did Ice Road Truckers.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And he went to some place up there where they were driving their trucks across the fucking lakes, frozen lakes.
Like, crazy shit.
40 below zero it was outside.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah.
He said he fucked up and he left his gloves in the car and he tried to manipulate something with his hands and his hands were getting stuck to the metal because it was so cold.
unidentified
Oh my god.
ari shaffir
What the fuck?
joe rogan
Crazy, man.
Crazy.
ari shaffir
There's no way you could get laid in an environment like that.
You'd have to go back to your house so fast you couldn't even like, I'm not going to a bar tonight.
joe rogan
Amazing.
Yeah, 40 fucking below zero.
So in these places, when you go there in the summertime, man, it's like there's a happiness to the people.
They're so happy that you can go outside and not die.
Didn't you feel it?
You feel like a joy.
ari shaffir
All summer long, everyone's like, oh, we just love this.
We go kayaking and breathing the air.
It's amazing.
joe rogan
I wonder if they appreciate life better.
I've always thought about that.
ari shaffir
They appreciate the summer better, no doubt.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
No doubt.
joe rogan
We're always in the summer, man.
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
I don't appreciate it that much, although I really do.
joe rogan
First time I stayed here, man, I stayed here with my friend Gary Valentine.
I was doing something for MTV, and they gave me a room with two beds, and Gary was up here for some audition, so he crashed with me.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
We got up every day, and we were like, another fucking shitty day in paradise.
We were in our young 20s.
I was like 24 or 25 or something like that.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And we were like, this is fucking incredible.
Because we were living in New York where every day was gray.
Good luck.
From October to March, most of the fucking sky is just gray and it sucks.
Either it's raining or it's snowing or it just sucks.
So you get so used to this no rain, no snow, no have to deal with weather.
But I think that when you take out nature as a variable, you don't have to consider nature, people get, like, real cocky.
They get real, you know what I'm saying?
Which is one of the reasons why the L.A. douche...
Like, when you think of L.A. douches, at least I think of people who are...
I think of them as not just being soft, but delusional about their hardness.
Like, he's an L.A. douche.
You know, L.A. douches always think they're tougher than they are...
I always think they're smarter than they are.
They're cocky.
There's something cocky.
And I think part of that is because they're never humbled by the weather.
ari shaffir
Explain Watts.
joe rogan
Explain Watts.
It's black people.
It's a totally different vibe.
I was talking about, I was coming home from a fire once.
One time we were filming Fear Factor and we were driving and it was during the crazy wildfires.
ari shaffir
I was coming home from a fire once.
joe rogan
It was a fire.
We had to evacuate, and we had finished the stunt, we got done in time, but when we got on the highway for an hour, I mean a full hour of going 55 miles an hour, like not fast, no one was driving fast, but it was highway speeds, the whole right side of the highway was engulfed in flames as far as you could see.
It was crazy.
But one of the things I remember is how polite everybody was.
People were using their blinkers, and people were waving, and I looked around, and everybody was scared and slack-jawed.
When you deal with snow, like if you go up to Maine during a snowstorm, I was driving up north during a snowstorm, and my car broke down, and I had to hang out with the people in the toll booth.
They took me in because it was too cold for me to be outside.
They hooked me up, but everybody was friendly.
Can we get you some coffee?
Why?
Because they're all banding together.
Because there's this fucking crazy thing outside that can kill all the people.
ari shaffir
That has not been my experience with New Yorkers and Bostoners.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's a lot of the urban pressure that comes with that too.
The giant numbers.
The giant numbers of people is a problem because people get dehumanized by the pressure.
But I think overall, people on the East Coast are more realistic.
They're more realistic in their behavior, more realistic in the way they think about themselves.
They might be cocky, they might be arrogant, but it's a different version of it than you get in California.
California is missing the element of the weather.
You never have to consider it.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
You never have to worry.
ari shaffir
I just think it has the opposite effect.
I think you're just going to flourish as a person.
joe rogan
You can do that, too.
Sure.
I mean, it's basically in how you look at it.
I don't think it hurts you, but I think it might hurt a dummy.
You know?
I think, like, you're living in the East Coast and hurricanes come.
And you've got to fucking batten down the hatches for the hurricane.
You get out.
It kind of puts things into perspective.
When you get out there and you see trees ripped out of their roots and fucking windows broken in houses and cars fucking flipped over.
Like, that puts it into perspective.
Like, you ain't shit.
And everybody better band together because there's some other stuff out there besides people and it can fucking kill people.
And some of it is air.
How about that?
How about the air becomes a scary monster that rips fucking buildings off its foundations?
Wipes out entire towns.
People are running around worried about vampires.
Fuck vampires.
Tornadoes are way scarier than vampires.
You know?
Vampire can't just destroy your house and send it flying through the air.
Who's worried about a vampire?
Fat girls.
ari shaffir
They're not worried.
They're hoping for a vampire to come.
I don't know if they're hoping.
joe rogan
They like to believe.
Isn't it funny that they like to combine those two?
Vampires and romance.
Something about him being undead is sexy.
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Why?
He can never leave you?
joe rogan
Maybe it's that.
It's also that, you know, the futility, the obvious futility of the relationship because unless he kills her and eats her or unless he turns her into a vampire, she can't stay with him because she's going to grow old and he's going to be young forever.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
And it's like this romance and the fact that he loves her and, you know.
brian redban
Just a metaphor for, you know, everyone has problems.
ari shaffir
The ultimate sign of romance is if you agree to spend the rest of your life with a woman.
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
But if you agree to make that life an eternity, how much more so romantic would that be?
joe rogan
Yeah.
And there's also the forbidden love.
The fact that he's supposed to be dangerous, but no one knows.
Everybody thinks he's a monster, but you know the real him.
And around you, he's safe.
But around other men, he pulls his fangs out and everybody runs and they want to kill him.
unidentified
Stop!
joe rogan
You don't know him.
ari shaffir
And you're like, look at yourself.
You're dating a vampire.
Stop it.
joe rogan
She let a vampire fuck her.
unidentified
Ugh.
joe rogan
In the Twilight movies, they've fucked the shit out of her.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian redban
Would you fuck a vampire chick if she gave you life forever?
joe rogan
Uh, no.
Want some crazy bitch who wants to eat me?
brian redban
No, now she fell in love, though.
joe rogan
No, listen.
If you see a vampire, kill them.
Vampires aren't people.
Okay, if you see one, you gotta kill them.
You gotta stick with teen people.
There's a reason why we don't have mountain lions just wandering through our streets.
Like you have pigeons.
ari shaffir
I'd go over.
joe rogan
Because pigeons are helpless.
brian redban
I'd go over.
ari shaffir
I'd go over immediately.
joe rogan
You'd fuck her?
ari shaffir
I'd immediately go over and then start telling about the people, the mortals I know.
unidentified
Really?
ari shaffir
Telling on them, like, I know where they live.
joe rogan
Do you say this?
ari shaffir
I hope you're in jest.
brian redban
I agree.
joe rogan
Are you saying this in jest?
ari shaffir
I would definitely become a mortal.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Really?
ari shaffir
Oh, yeah.
Why?
People want to live longer.
joe rogan
Yeah, but what if when you die...
Okay, if we're talking about vampires, we're talking about something so silly.
But if we're talking about vampires, then we're talking about evil things.
And we're talking about if you die, you're going to go to hell.
So now hell exists.
If vampires exist, hell probably exists too.
ari shaffir
But you never go to hell because you're...
joe rogan
You get killed, bro.
ari shaffir
And then your soul goes to hell?
joe rogan
Yeah, and you're fucked for eternity.
ari shaffir
That's a good point.
Because if you accept vampirism, they would have to accept heaven and hell.
unidentified
Because vampirism comes from them being damned by God.
joe rogan
Yeah, you gotta accept a bunch of other stupid shit that goes along with it.
ari shaffir
It just seems like God fucked up there again.
They damned them to eternal life?
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
It's like, that's pretty cool.
Another fuck-up.
joe rogan
Yep.
brian redban
But isn't there like a potion to turn off being a vampire, make you drink some kind of blood, and then you give up your vampire powers?
joe rogan
I don't believe that.
That's some shit where people make up.
ari shaffir
Drink regular blood?
joe rogan
See, all these fucking pussy, cutesy vampires with beautiful hair, that's not what a vampire's supposed to be like.
ari shaffir
Daylight kills you.
joe rogan
Garlic kills you.
People try all sorts of different variations of the vampire theme.
There's a book out called The Strain.
There's Guillermo del Toro and some other dude who wrote a book on vampires.
It starts out badass, but ultimately completely fizzles and becomes stupid.
It becomes almost like they had ten pages where they had to finish, so they just finished it.
And then he shot him and he died.
Yeah, it's like the, sort of, but it's weird in literature form because it seems like almost like it was written by two different people.
Like one person who really knew, he's a producer and director.
He's the guy who did Pan's Labyrinth.
Great, great movie.
Labyrinth, sorry.
But this book is almost like it's written by one person, and the other person finished it, it almost seems like.
Because in the beginning, they set everything up badass, and it's really creepy and suspenseful, and you're like, whoa, this is a good fucking book.
Like a real page-turner.
I remember I was reading it in Germany, and everybody else from the UFC was going to go to some after-party.
I purposely said, "No, I'm kind of tired." I went back to my room to read this book because it was that good.
I was so addicted to it.
I was stuck with it.
But then it turns into a stupid book.
The last 40 pages or something.
ari shaffir
I love when I do something with a love story all of a sudden.
joe rogan
You're like, "What?" It didn't do that.
The detail was gone.
All of a sudden it was just, "And this happened.
unidentified
And that happened." I was like, "Ew, what are you doing?" Do you think it fixed it in the movie?
joe rogan
I don't know.
I don't think it's going to be a movie.
They were trying to make it a miniseries.
ari shaffir
Wait, they have billboards up for it.
They posted bills.
Oh, really?
joe rogan
The Strain?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, wow.
unidentified
I didn't know that.
ari shaffir
Unless it's for the book.
Did the book just come out?
joe rogan
No.
The second book came out, but that was at least a year ago, I believe.
The second book.
ari shaffir
Maybe they're making a movie about it.
joe rogan
Maybe.
I thought they were going to try it.
I think the original thing was a treatment for a miniseries.
And then he decided to turn it into a book and sell the book.
ari shaffir
Two days ago, I started selling the bills for it.
joe rogan
Really?
The Strain, the movie.
Let's Google that shit.
But my point is...
ari shaffir
It said, don't invite them in or something like that.
unidentified
Do you think the Pan's Labyrinth porn version would be Pan's Lady?
Wow, they have a trailer out already.
ari shaffir
No, I think they'll do better than that.
brian redban
Really?
joe rogan
Oh, there's a trilogy.
That's what it is.
I think it's the book.
ari shaffir
Oh, so it's a sequel to the book?
joe rogan
Yeah, because it doesn't say anything.
Oh, the Strain movie.
ari shaffir
So you're getting peed on, Brian?
brian redban
Yeah, it won't happen again.
joe rogan
Yeah, okay, it is.
It's a real movie.
Guermo del Toro.
It's a real movie.
But my point about vampires is that these guys did another different take on the vampire.
This vampire didn't have fangs.
ari shaffir
Yeah, they always run a re-event, which I get, but it's like, come on, man.
joe rogan
They don't even attack your throat like a regular vampire does.
They put a little tiny incision that you can't even see.
You can barely see it.
unidentified
It's so stupid.
joe rogan
It's like a tongue.
Their tongue morphs and becomes some little laser fucking razor blade thing.
It's really dumb.
It's like Nosferatu.
Nosferatu.
That's what a vampire is supposed to look like.
That old one from the 1900s, the one that was like, it was a silent radio.
That's what they're supposed to look like.
They're supposed to look like the undead.
They're supposed to look like horrible fucking creeps.
And they're supposed to have fangs.
And they're supposed to jack your throat.
Everything else you're inventing, you're just, you're inventing a new thing.
ari shaffir
Did you see that Invite Me In movie?
Yes.
joe rogan
Yes.
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
With the chick from Superbad?
unidentified
Yes.
ari shaffir
Not Superbad, whatever it is.
joe rogan
Yes.
ari shaffir
Yeah, that was pretty cool.
joe rogan
Yeah, I saw the original version too.
I don't remember the name of it.
ari shaffir
One of them is Invite Me In.
joe rogan
Yeah, Invite Me In is the American version.
I forget what the other one is.
unidentified
Let Me In.
joe rogan
Let Me In.
Whatever it was.
I saw both of them.
brian redban
What was that about?
joe rogan
It's about a girl, a little girl who's a vampire.
It's pretty dope.
It's realistic.
ari shaffir
Eight forever.
Or whatever it is.
brian redban
Perfect age.
ari shaffir
It's just really cool.
And super realistic.
That's exactly what it is.
Super realistic.
joe rogan
Yes.
Yes.
And sort of sad.
ari shaffir
Not a great ending.
Not sort of happy.
It's sort of like, ugh.
joe rogan
The American one wasn't as good as the foreign one.
Well, it was close.
I wouldn't say it wasn't as good, because whenever you compare something to the old something, you always go, oh, this new Batman's gay.
It's just natural.
But there's that scene in the tunnel where she jacks that old man.
Oh my God, that was good.
That was good and weird, you know?
ari shaffir
In the new one, you mean?
joe rogan
Yeah, in the new one.
The way she did it was frightening.
ari shaffir
And that chick is good.
She's a good actress.
joe rogan
But that's a real goddamn vampire movie.
That's how they're supposed to be.
You can't invent stuff like, oh, they can go out in the sun, but they sparkle.
Fuck you.
Fuck you.
brian redban
I like the glitter.
joe rogan
Fuck you, man.
ari shaffir
They radiate when you hit the sun instead of die.
joe rogan
This is not a vampire.
This is some fake shit.
This is some fake shit, man.
God damn it.
It's just romance.
ari shaffir
He wants his vampires real.
joe rogan
Girls want romance.
So speaking of romance, are your girls peeing on you again?
ari shaffir
Oh yeah.
brian redban
Yeah, I don't know what's happening now.
It happened again.
What do you mean?
ari shaffir
In the middle of the night she just pees?
brian redban
No, no, no.
While we're banging, when she comes, it just explodes.
And people sent me like...
ari shaffir
Is she shooting or is it peeing?
brian redban
She's either peeing or she's juicing so hard that it's the pee levels of amount.
joe rogan
But you said it smelled like pee.
unidentified
Yeah.
brian redban
It did.
It did smell like pee.
But what also I've been noticing is when I'm fucking her, it's gotten to the point where it's so wet that it's making Donald Duck noises.
It's filling up with so much liquid.
She needs to get a doctor, I think.
joe rogan
Well, you said she's a super nympho.
She, like, vibrates in the car while she's driving.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
She puts a little vibrator.
brian redban
Maybe she broke a vow.
joe rogan
And she wants dick, like, three times a day.
And poor Brian is forced to go to a gym now.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's trying to get in shape.
ari shaffir
Why?
brian redban
Because I can't keep up anymore.
It's so much.
That's three times is the min, by the way.
She at least has to have it three times.
joe rogan
Are you caveman fucking her or are you just like whimpering or you slowly slide it in?
brian redban
Luckily, you know, you figure out a girl, what she likes and stuff, you just have that one move that just makes them come like crazy.
Well, I just have to keep on doing that one move.
joe rogan
Well, don't say the move because then the next boyfriend will learn it.
unidentified
So what happens if you don't want to do it?
brian redban
Yeah, it's from behind and you're choking her.
joe rogan
And you punch her.
brian redban
She likes to be punched.
ari shaffir
Drop the elbow to the back of it.
Wait, so what happens if you don't do that?
I just can't do it a second or third time today.
brian redban
She gets mad.
ari shaffir
She gets mad.
brian redban
So I have to, in my head, I'm like, oh, that's not good.
She's going to go somewhere else.
And so I have to do it.
And what I've been, you know, increasing my blowjob.
If you know me, I'm not a huge blowjob fan, but I have to increase that because that gives me some time, you know, to be like, all right, I'm ready to do this, you know, because it's something.
Yeah, yeah.
So it's now getting to the point where, I mean, like the other day, it was like six times.
And it was like, we would fuck.
And then like 10 minutes later, she goes, fuck me again.
I'm like, fuck.
joe rogan
You know what's hilarious, dude?
This is like a scene from The Twilight Zone.
This is like an episode of The Twilight Zone where a guy asks for a nympho and then he can't fucking take it back.
She's like, you better fuck me!
You better fuck me, you fucker!
She gets mad at you and you fucking freak out.
ari shaffir
Wait, what does she do when she's gone?
Like on the road and stuff?
brian redban
She has a selection of toys.
By the way, I don't know if you've ever heard of, for women, there's this Vib...
I can't remember what it is.
ari shaffir
Vibrator?
brian redban
It's like an iPod for vibrators.
It's the best vibrator ever.
I forget the name of the company that makes it.
joe rogan
An iPod?
unidentified
What do you mean?
brian redban
It's got a USB plug in it, so you just hook it up to your laptop to charge it.
unidentified
And that's what charges it?
brian redban
Yeah, it's what charges it.
And it's got like a thousand different settings.
joe rogan
You can download settings maybe?
brian redban
Yeah, it's crazy.
joe rogan
Yeah, we think that vibration programs would sort of be like, you know, you get an elliptical machine, it simulates stairs.
They could do that in the vibrator.
ari shaffir
Yeah, absolutely.
joe rogan
Hard, fast.
So she's constantly trying to get off.
brian redban
Yeah, non-stop.
She seriously spends most of her time.
ari shaffir
It's really cool that you're dating a normal church now.
joe rogan
Well, I always equate obsessive sexual behavior with distraction.
I always say that whenever in my life that I've been obsessed sexually, whether I was obsessed with masturbating or obsessed with fucking, that it's a distraction and that really I was imbalanced.
And what I needed to do was get my mind in order.
ari shaffir
And you wouldn't fuck anymore?
joe rogan
Yeah.
No, not that I wouldn't fuck anymore, but that I wouldn't be obsessive.
You know, there's a certain level of fucking or jerking off or anything where you do it even when you're not even horny.
You do it because this is the thing you're obsessed with.
This is the thing you're fixating on.
So, like, physically, your dick is limp.
ari shaffir
Weird additions.
joe rogan
You're not horny, but yet you'll be chasing pussy like crazy.
Whereas, like, there's a big difference between that and, like, say if your girlfriend goes out of town for a couple weeks.
ari shaffir
You're physically horny and I want to get laid.
It's been weeks.
joe rogan
Yeah, if your girlfriend goes out of town for a couple weeks and you haven't seen her and then you grab her and you hug and you kiss and your dick goes, slam, son!
It's time!
And that's that feeling, man, when you grab her and she's like, oh, fuck yeah.
That's real horniness.
That's the real deal.
brian redban
That's the stuff that I missed.
Because I'm fucking four times a day.
Now it's just like, alright, must fuck, must fuck.
joe rogan
Well, that's what I'm thinking about your girl, too.
I think she can't really possibly be experiencing that either.
She seems to be obsessing.
I mean, I understand.
The concept of nympho, I always wonder...
ari shaffir
She's getting all wet.
She's getting hard.
joe rogan
Yeah, but if it's a girl, it's different.
It's a girl, it's different for a girl.
The whole setup is different.
It's not like a dick.
A dick is a highly complicated biomedical condition.
You know, a hard-on.
A hard-on is not, if a guy had a bone, you know, like if your dick was a bone and you could just fuck all the time, you would wear the skin out of that thing.
It would look like a rhino horn.
It would just be pointy at the tip and all broken down and scabby and fucking hard.
You'd just be fucking all the time.
Ah!
But because of that, your dick is this really complicated sort of an arrangement where everything has to be in line.
You have the right amount of sexual confidence.
You can't have too much liquor.
You can't have too many distractions or bills.
There can't be too much noise.
Nobody can be screaming at you.
You know, if you had a rhino horned dick, you could just fuck it.
You know, if people scream at you, stop fucking my ass!
Fuck you!
I'm fucking hurt!
Yeah, you got a crazy bone.
You never have to worry about it going dead.
But anything can cause your boner to stop.
You know, you can get in...
Have you ever gotten in an argument in the middle of fucking...
brian redban
Uh, yeah.
ari shaffir
I thought of bills sometimes, but it's something really rearing on me.
Or like getting some parts.
unidentified
Yeah, you can do that.
ari shaffir
It's just so distracting.
joe rogan
You're like, oh fuck, it's going away.
And then your dick starts going limp.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
There's a girl that I dated a long ass time ago who used to argue about everything.
She always wanted to argue.
And she would argue while we're fucking.
While we're fucking.
She would just start arguing.
And I had to pull out.
I had to pull out and stop.
I said, what?
What?
I go, you're a fucking crazy person.
What?
We're having sex and you can't stop arguing.
brian redban
That's when you start fucking her in the ass.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
That's when you run away before she kills you.
You've got the wrong advice, Brian.
That's terrible advice.
brian redban
Yeah, so I don't know what to do.
I think it might be a doctor thing, though, lately.
It's just too wet.
joe rogan
I think it's a psychological thing.
I mean, I don't know physically.
Everyone's different, obviously.
You're much different than me.
I'm much different than Ari.
There's levels.
I mean, some people are autistic.
I'm sure some girls are sexually, just chemically imbalanced to some point of nymphomania.
Like, it's a physical thing.
But I also believe that a lot of the cases of nymphomania is distractions.
It's just like a man being obsessed with beating off.
You can call that guy a nymphomaniac.
But like a girl is just like having a rhino dick.
ari shaffir
It becomes distraction or it's because he's distracted?
What are you saying?
joe rogan
What do you mean?
ari shaffir
You're saying it's distraction.
joe rogan
A lot of the reason why they're doing it is because they're looking for a distraction.
ari shaffir
From something else they should be doing?
joe rogan
Yes, from their life, from focusing on your life.
If you have issues and things that make you insecure, things where you haven't accomplished what you want to, things where you're not at a place where you need to be emotionally.
Yes, yes, gambling, all those things.
They're all completely related to an imbalance in your system, an imbalance of the human being.
When I get in the isolation tank, the number one thing, the number one theme when I get in there is sorting out things that are bothering me.
It forces me to consider all the things that are bothering me.
The isolation tank is the exact opposite of going to a hooker.
See, if you've got some shit going on, you're like, oh, I'll just call this bitch up right now.
She'll suck my dick for $500.
And you get crazy and you start going into a hooker frenzy.
I don't know.
I'm just making up a number.
But I know dudes who are addicted to hookers.
I know dudes who would always bring hookers out to clubs and they would always pick up hookers.
And they had hookers that would constantly text them, hey, babe, I'm here.
And they're spending thousands of dollars on hookers.
And those guys were all fucked up in the head.
All of them.
There's all sorts of imbalance.
It wasn't a horniness.
It was an obsession.
And a lot of that obsession is because you don't like certain parts of your own life and you're trying to not think about your problems.
So instead of thinking about your problems, you think about beating off or you think about gambling or you think about anything else.
Yeah, whatever the fuck it is that you become obsessed with.
Video games, you know?
Anything where you become obsessed to the point where it's not even enjoyable.
What that is, almost always, is you trying to avoid some shit that's really bothering you.
You're trying to ignore it.
It's anti-evolutionary.
You're in a rut behavior.
You're like a crazy rat sitting in the corner bobbing back and forth waiting for your heroin.
It's completely unproductive.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
So your girlfriend's crazy.
You need to take your girlfriend to a doctor.
brian redban
Yeah, I'm going to.
joe rogan
Take her to a psychologist.
brian redban
Or maybe go to one of those car washes with the vacuum cleaner.
Just suck out all the juice.
joe rogan
Sometimes people need to talk to somebody about their shit.
ari shaffir
Have you asked her what it is, if it's pee?
joe rogan
Well, she's got some issues.
brian redban
Well, she doesn't know.
It just started like two days ago where it's just...
I mean, seriously, when we're having sex, it's really loud.
It's like...
It's like Donald Duck on a carousel.
joe rogan
That doesn't bother me as much as the constantly wanting to fuck all the time.
I always think, just fuck me, get me, stop thinking about this, just come on, fuck me.
ari shaffir
I want to feel something.
joe rogan
If you know her past, and you've talked about her issues in her past, she really needs to go to someone and sit down and talk to somebody.
That's what she needs to do.
I think a lot of people need that, man.
It's not a bad thing.
It's not a weak thing.
Other people can help you.
brian redban
See, the problem is she was talked about going to a sex addiction anonymous type thing.
But the problem is I don't want her going there with other sex addicts.
That just seems like a bad idea.
joe rogan
Yeah, you go there and some dude looks like the new Conan.
Some six foot four fucking swarthy handsome bastard with giant pectorals and a fucking iron eel shaped dick.
ari shaffir
I would say that if a girl looks like your girlfriend wants to get laid, she would have zero problems.
brian redban
So you're saying I'd go to the sex addiction thing to pick up girls.
joe rogan
What I'm saying is, if somebody wants to fuck her, she's gonna fuck.
ari shaffir
She doesn't need to be around another sex addict to do that.
brian redban
That's very unfortunate.
joe rogan
She can get dick at the subway.
brian redban
I need to start throwing burning wax on her face once in a while.
joe rogan
12 inch tuna.
ari shaffir
And get her pussy eaten.
Bring back the chastity belt.
brian redban
No, honey, don't wear your seat belt.
joe rogan
Just listen.
Stop being scared.
ari shaffir
Make it rust-proof.
joe rogan
Look, you're gonna die, okay?
There's no stability to any of this shit.
unidentified
This earth...
joe rogan
The sun's gonna die.
The sun only has a billion years left, or whatever the fuck it has.
Six billion years, whatever the fuck they predict.
This is all temporary, bro.
You're fucking this really hot girl.
Just enjoy it.
Be nice to her, enjoy it, and get that bitch a doctor, because she needs a doctor.
She's getting...
She wants too much dick.
It's ridiculous.
Or, you know...
unidentified
Whatever.
joe rogan
What the fuck do I know?
Am I an expert on this?
I don't even have a vagina!
Men are such non-experts in the vagina, no one has completely isolated what squirting is.
I mean, think about every single fucking function of the man's body.
Every single function of the man's body has been cleverly analyzed.
But the woman's body has a Loch Ness Monster.
brian redban
I think they're hiding something.
joe rogan
That's what squirting is.
Squirting is like the Bigfoot of the woman's body.
Like, what is this?
Is this real?
What is this?
Is it a UFO? Squirting is like fucking paranormal.
Nobody knows what the fuck that is.
There's a lot of debate about whether or not that's piss.
ari shaffir
There's a lot of debate about whether you should be impressed by it or not.
joe rogan
Yeah, ew.
brian redban
Or if you should drink it.
joe rogan
Websites.
brian redban
I'm going to try to bring some next time I'm here so you can look at it and smell it and tell me what you think.
ari shaffir
I'm not going to smell it.
joe rogan
Yeah, bring it in.
I'll smell it.
unidentified
You will?
joe rogan
Fuck yeah, I'll smell it on camera.
brian redban
Will you taste it?
Will you rub it on your chest?
joe rogan
I'll rub a little around my nipple.
ari shaffir
For those just for coloring.
joe rogan
Just around the nipple.
Imagine if it made me super sensitive and I started crying.
ari shaffir
Like it's soaked into your pores?
joe rogan
Leaked into my pores.
Oh my god!
They say that men's loads actually help cure depression in women.
Really?
Yeah, believe it or not.
That there's something in male semen when absorbed by the woman's body, the reaction actually alleviates depression.
So maybe that's why she wants dick all the time.
It could be that.
brian redban
Did a male scientist do this research?
unidentified
Yeah!
Get on the pill or use condoms?
joe rogan
Yeah, I should before referencing that.
ari shaffir
Get on the pill or use condoms?
brian redban
Ah, condoms.
ari shaffir
Wow.
joe rogan
Ew, really?
That's the problem.
brian redban
That's what I have to tell people.
joe rogan
You're not giving her any real dick.
That's what you have to tell people.
Yeah, that's hilarious.
Semen acts as an antidepressant.
Yeah, it's in a science journal, man.
This is a new scientist.
brian redban
Hey, you just got an STD test.
How did that go?
joe rogan
Hold on, sweat this before we get into that.
This is really true.
Semen actually makes you happy.
The remarkable conclusion of a study comparing women whose partners wear condoms with those whose partners don't.
That's the problem, dude.
You're wearing condoms.
Wink, wink.
unidentified
Nudge, nudge.
brian redban
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
The study is bound to provoke controversy.
Okay, this is sort of anecdotal evidence.
They could have just got lucky and found...
People who fuck it feels better.
I don't think semen makes you better.
When you fuck without a condom, it feels better.
You can just say that.
ari shaffir
I've heard girls with a condom calling it...
It's like getting a massage with your t-shirt on.
joe rogan
Oh wow, that's a good way of putting it.
Yeah, that's probably why they feel better about their relationships.
Because the sex actually feels really fucking good.
You know, it probably has nothing to do with...
You should talk to people who pull out.
But nobody wants to admit they pull out.
Nobody wants to admit they're so stupid that that's their method of birth control.
You could analyze them.
Nobody wants to admit that, man.
There's a bit from my act, and it's absolutely fucking true, how I made my first daughter.
That was 100% pulling out.
That was all pulling.
I pulled the fuck out.
I didn't leave it in there.
I wasn't drunk.
I know what I was doing.
It doesn't matter.
There's some really determined sperm that will make shit happen.
So don't try the pull-out method.
ari shaffir
I used to.
joe rogan
God, you're so lucky!
Well, it's hard.
It's not as easy to knock someone up as you think.
Because when we were trying to have the second baby, I fucked her a lot.
And I was always shooting loads in there.
ari shaffir
Yeah, dawg!
unidentified
Yeah!
joe rogan
Give me some nuggets, bro.
Yeah, but it took like a couple of months.
I was like, Jesus Christ.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
Fucking you every day.
You know, this is getting ridiculous.
You know, around the time when she was ovulating, whenever she was ovulating, it was a mall session.
I fucked the shit out of her for like seven, eight days in a row.
She said, all right, we're going to make some babies.
I got fired up and smoked a lot of weed, listened to some good music and go and just fucking attack.
But it doesn't always work, man.
It took a few months of that.
I shot loads in her every single day that she was ovulating, and it still took months.
Eddie Bravo.
It's taking him.
He's trying to have a baby.
I shouldn't talk about that.
I don't know if he wants to release that.
brian redban
My girlfriend played a practical joke on me because we got a birth control test the other day at Target, and she got a red Sharpie and made the mark so it was pregnant, and she just laid it on the bathroom floor and didn't say anything.
joe rogan
You say it's a practical joke, but she probably wanted to see your reaction.
Because every girl deep down inside wants to have babies.
brian redban
Yeah, well, my actual reaction was, God, yes!
And I gave her a hug, and I was like...
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
Really?
brian redban
No.
joe rogan
I was like, if there's any man-child, it's not quite...
ari shaffir
God damn it, Brian.
joe rogan
If you really told me that you had a baby, I was like...
I flashed in my head, okay, I've got to get him to join the Army.
He needs to become a man.
ari shaffir
Get out of this now.
I was just shocked.
joe rogan
I was thinking, can you get a guy in boot camp without having him be in the actual army?
unidentified
I don't want him to go overseas, but he needs to go straight to being a cook.
joe rogan
He needs to go to Afghanistan and fucking run around with a backpack on.
He needs to become a man.
brian redban
You guys know I'd be an awesome dad.
joe rogan
You would be a good dad.
Look, he got so depressed that his cat hurt her foot and he started smoking.
He's very concerned.
ari shaffir
No, you would not be a good dad.
joe rogan
Well, that's why I always tell Eddie Bravo he'd be a great dad, because he fucking dotes over his bunnies.
He's so into bunnies.
I'm like, dude, wait until you have a kid.
ari shaffir
There's so much responsibility.
joe rogan
What, kids?
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
They are.
They're an amazing amount of responsibility.
ari shaffir
You can't procrastinate at all with them.
joe rogan
No, you can't.
But, you know, Louis C.K. told me this once, you get more shit done when you have kids, because, you know, you don't sit around and just fart around and think about getting things done.
Like, you only have a certain amount of time.
Like, it forces you to work.
brian redban
Oh, by the way, tonight, Doug Stanhope's on Louis.
joe rogan
Oh, he is?
Oh, cool.
Awesome.
I saw Doug on the Green Room episode with Janine Garofalo, and he went after Janine Garofalo.
ari shaffir
What did he go out there for?
What did he say?
joe rogan
Well, because the day after 9-11, she was on stage in Texas saying that we need to support the president, support George Bush.
ari shaffir
And then she changed?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course.
You know, that whole fucking liberal intellectual with one finger in the air that they moisten to check out the fucking political wind.
Which way is it blowing?
Which way is it blowing?
ari shaffir
I don't mind people changing their mind.
I totally agree with that.
But then you're going to harshly judge everyone who hasn't changed their mind fast enough yet?
joe rogan
But she denied it, which is much more interesting.
unidentified
Oh, really?
joe rogan
It's much more interesting to watch someone deny it.
ari shaffir
And what, there was video of it?
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, I had...
But why?
You know, it just didn't happen.
And Doug was very adamant about it.
Because I remember him telling me about it, how ridiculous he thought it was when it happened at the time.
You know, that you support any...
Why would you ever fucking support any of these fucks that are running this country?
They're all goddamn criminals...
Everything they do that's legal should be illegal.
Everything they do that's secret should be open.
Transparency in government is the number one reason why all this shit can take place.
I firmly believe that they have fake spies and fake data breaches and fake hacks just so they can tighten down security and just so they can make more things secret.
I really truly believe that.
I think if I was trying to run shit the way this United States government has run, the way they're constantly taking money...
ari shaffir
What do you think the reason would be for them to make things secret?
unidentified
Money!
joe rogan
All money.
Hiding where the money goes.
Hiding money.
Well, look, you know about this whole thing where there was a bailout.
We thought it was a certain amount of money, and it turned out to be $16 trillion in secret bailouts.
Yeah, because Ron Paul and someone else audited the Fed, and they got a detailed list.
You didn't hear about this?
ari shaffir
$16 trillion.
It couldn't be $16 trillion.
unidentified
It went from $800 billion to $16 trillion?
joe rogan
Secret bailouts.
Hold on.
I'll read you the article.
And these are in mainstream publications.
ari shaffir
So 20 times as much as they...
joe rogan
Audit of the Federal Reserve reveals $16 trillion in bailouts.
This is not just on one site.
This is on many, many sites.
And it's the first ever government accountability office audit of the Federal Reserve was carried out in the past few months due to the due to Ron Paul Allen Grayson amendment amendment to the Dodd-Frank bill, which passed last year.
And Jim DeMint, Republican senator and Bernie Sanders, an independent senator, led the charge for the Federal Reserve audit in the Senate, but watered down the original language of the House, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
What was revealed in the audit was startling.
Sixteen trillion.
Trillion.
Listen to this.
There's a bunch of websites with a very similar article, but listen to the trillion.
Listen to that many zeros.
One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve.
Twelve fucking zeros!
That is sixteen thousand billion dollars.
That's what that is.
It's amazing!
And this is $16 trillion had been secretly given out to U.S. banks and corporations and foreign banks everywhere from France to Scotland.
The period between December 2007 and June 2010, the Federal Reserve had secretly bailed out many of the world's banks, corporations, and governments.
The Federal Reserve likes to refer to these secret bailouts as an all-inclusive loan program, but virtually none of the money has been returned...
And it was loaned out at 0% interest.
Now, why isn't this on mainstream news?
What news source is that?
There's a lot of different...
I'll find this website.
It's called The Plain Truth.
But it's been on the Daily Cause.
ari shaffir
Daily Cause?
joe rogan
Yeah, KOS, which is like a real liberal news source.
But it was in the Huffington Post.
It was in, like, I know, Secret Bill.
I'll write Huffington Post because I know it was in that too.
brian redban
We need you to collect that money, Ari.
Do the Bobby Lee choke method.
unidentified
And people are like, the fucking Huffington Post is not, it's a liberal rag.
joe rogan
It is true.
ari shaffir
16 trillion.
The Huffington Post is more reputable.
joe rogan
Let's try CNN. Yeah, CNN has it too.
ari shaffir
$16 trillion is whatever we said we spent on bailouts, that's 20 times, 20 of those, in secret, on top of the one we did, for real, that people argued against.
joe rogan
Yeah.
This one's saying $9 trillion, this other presscore.ca, Canadian website saying $9 trillion.
Either way, it's, okay, marketobservation.com.
There's a lot of websites that have this story.
Well, there's only one that has $9 trillion.
Everything else seems to be sticking with between $13 and $16 trillion.
ari shaffir
And totally adding it up?
joe rogan
Yeah, there's a lot of websites, man.
I mean, the Google hits, I got 4,200,000 results.
ari shaffir
Wow.
joe rogan
So it's obvious that this has been talked about on a bunch of different websites.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
Speaking of politics, I'll be watching DC on August 26th, 27th.
joe rogan
Oh, what a fucking segue!
What a segue!
Where are you going to be?
ari shaffir
The Atlas Performing Arts Center.
joe rogan
How come you're not at the Improv, those cunts?
Are they not booking you?
ari shaffir
No, they won't book me.
joe rogan
What kind of ridiculous shit is that?
Listen, you dirty bitches.
Just because Ari Shafir came up at the Improv does not mean that he can't go there and headline.
ari shaffir
I love that Improv.
joe rogan
Don't be cunty.
ari shaffir
I like Allison.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Headliner, Ari Shafir.
Listen, we'll make you a deal.
We'll pump it up on Twitter.
We'll talk about it on the podcast.
ari shaffir
That's what we're doing with the Atlas Performing Arts Center.
joe rogan
And you know what we're going to do?
We're going to pump it up the same way I'm going to pump up this weekend, August 13th in Milwaukee, Wisconsin at the Pabst Theater.
ari shaffir
Oh, that'll be fun.
joe rogan
Holler at your boy.
ari shaffir
Have you ever played Wisconsin before?
joe rogan
Yes, a long time ago.
Brian, we still need to put that Denver date up on the Ustream page.
brian redban
It is up.
joe rogan
No, on this one.
See?
brian redban
Hit refresh.
joe rogan
I did.
Just did.
Yeah, I don't know.
Something happened.
ari shaffir
When are you going to Denver?
joe rogan
That's September 23rd.
ari shaffir
What are you playing?
joe rogan
The Paramount Theater.
Holla at you, boy!
I used to do the Comedy Works, but Joe Diaz cannot get booked at the Comedy Works.
And I get tired of going to Denver and everybody asking.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
And, you know...
ari shaffir
Is Wendy promoting that or somebody else?
joe rogan
I think she has something to do with her, too.
But she can't stop Joey Diaz from coming into town.
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
I was about to say, it's like, what are you guys doing?
Joey Diaz had something that happened 20 years ago.
joe rogan
He had the most ridiculous version of that story, too.
His version of the story was, the girl, she was on the stage, she jumped off the stage, I clutched her, and I had her ass in my hand for a brief second.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
And comics talk through it saying that that was sexual harassment.
ari shaffir
I bet it's a lot of comics just not being cool with crazy shit that happens at comedy clubs.
Like somebody complaining.
joe rogan
Well, Joe Diaz style craziness.
Joe Diaz is perfectly fitted to the comedy store.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, he talks about that girl that he got to suck his dick every time she got on stage in the belly room.
She had to suck his dick.
ari shaffir
Who was that?
joe rogan
Some girl.
unidentified
But she quit.
joe rogan
She quit comedy and then she sent a letter to the comedy store.
So angry that he did that.
And Joey talks about it and laughs.
ari shaffir
Animals there.
unidentified
They're animals.
ari shaffir
I love it.
joe rogan
Well, he was probably running it like that in Colorado.
You know, knowing the Joey that we know from back in the day...
ari shaffir
He was making a party.
joe rogan
Yeah, he was making a party and someone panicked and, you know, some fucking really white guy, probably, just couldn't handle it.
I mean, Joey Diaz was a criminal from New Jersey who all of a sudden lived in Colorado and was robbing people with machine guns and fucking...
Kidnapping cocaine dealers.
ari shaffir
That's the best.
But not real kidnapping.
I just robbed somebody's cocaine stash with a machine gun.
joe rogan
Yeah, why?
unidentified
Dude.
ari shaffir
That's so much better.
I love it.
I love it so much.
joe rogan
Let me tell you something.
He was so hard.
Yeah.
Oh, he was crazy.
ari shaffir
It's amazing how nice he is.
He was so hard.
He was a straight criminal.
It's great.
It's a complete change.
joe rogan
He went on a 10-minute rant about how the weed sucked the last time we had a podcast.
He was calling it Susquehanna Weed.
Because Susquehanna was a hat company from the Laurel and Hardy show.
I had to calm him down for five minutes before he explained it.
ari shaffir
I love when he goes off on rants.
joe rogan
He was going so quick.
He gave me this fucking Susquehanna weed.
And I was like, what is he saying?
You know how Joey Diaz mispronounces words?
I thought he was saying like Hannah Montana weed.
So he was calling it Susquehanna.
brian redban
That's what I thought he was calling it.
joe rogan
Yeah, me too, right?
You did.
brian redban
I like that name better anyway.
joe rogan
Susquehanna weed's hilarious.
But what it was is, here's a tip, ladies and gentlemen.
Don't do this with your weed.
Don't grind your weed up in a coffee grinder.
I've done that for a little bit, and it's a matter of how many times you press it down because the weed gets chopped up really quick.
ari shaffir
Have you put it in bowls of vaporizer like that?
joe rogan
That is a good move.
In a vaporizer, it works like that.
Because you don't have to worry in a vaporizer about sucking the air through it.
But when you roll a joint with it and it's powder, it's too hard to get oxygen through.
And so I don't think you get as high.
So that's what Joey was responding to the other day.
That and the fact that he was in traffic for like an hour and a half getting here.
ari shaffir
Sometimes it's so hard to get here.
joe rogan
And he's fucking screaming at his...
Don't you get a bike, you fuck!
And he made a video of it.
unidentified
It's hilarious.
ari shaffir
While he's driving it here?
joe rogan
Yes, yeah.
Yes, and he showed it to us after the show.
So we're going to add that video to the end of the blog videos that we do.
You go to JoeRogan.net, there's always blog videos.
He'll send it to us.
ari shaffir
That's a funny video it sounds like.
joe rogan
Yeah, and if it doesn't, he lives on the street from you.
You can just go to his house and upload it.
brian redban
I'll just recreate it.
Recreate it?
joe rogan
You know, why would you recreate it?
But what he did was perfect.
The way he said it was perfect.
He's fucking screaming at people and going nuts because he's stuck in traffic.
ari shaffir
We're going to Buffalo together.
joe rogan
You are?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
When?
ari shaffir
September 17th.
joe rogan
September 17th.
ari shaffir
At the town ballroom.
joe rogan
You and Joey?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Who booked this?
ari shaffir
This guy contacted us.
And I let Joey work out the details.
It was just fucking, yeah.
joe rogan
September 17th?
Is that what you said?
ari shaffir
Uh-huh.
joe rogan
Nice.
September 17th is Saturday.
There's a UFC that night in New Orleans.
ari shaffir
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian redban
That's so awesome.
joe rogan
Yeah, that should be good, man.
So what is the name of the place?
ari shaffir
The Town Ballroom?
joe rogan
The Town Ballroom?
C-O-W-N-E. Well, make sure you come on.
Both of you guys come on that week.
ari shaffir
Okay.
joe rogan
And push it.
Yeah, you know what we'll do?
I have that Wednesday open.
I'm not filming Fear Factor that Wednesday.
So we'll do a podcast with you and Joey that Wednesday.
And we'll talk about that weekend.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
I think I'm going to try to hit New York for a few days after that.
joe rogan
We've got to do a daytime podcast though.
A nighttime podcast.
Joey gets too angry.
unidentified
What?
ari shaffir
Nighttime?
Oh, how's Fairfax going?
Is that why you did nighttime?
joe rogan
Yeah, I had a film all day.
It's going easy.
It's easy as fuck, man.
It's the easiest job in show business.
Three days for an episode.
The easy stunt is where they have to eat things.
Those usually take a couple hours.
The other days take like five hours, six hours.
ari shaffir
Set up everything.
joe rogan
It's fucking easy, man.
It's going into a show.
The people were running it.
The same people that ran it the old days.
So it's the same people.
They know exactly what the fuck they're doing.
It's easiness.
It's just easy money.
What was that?
ari shaffir
I don't know.
It just dropped off the sound for a second.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Oh, you know what that is?
That's that limiter that we have on now.
That's to keep the Joey Diaz sounds from getting too crazy.
ari shaffir
Oh, so if we don't make any sounds, it drops off extra hard?
brian redban
It just turns off the mic.
ari shaffir
Oh, it's like a Prius.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's like a shitty hybrid.
ari shaffir
It just stops recording when no one's talking.
joe rogan
Have you ever thought about buying one of those?
ari shaffir
A hybrid?
I'm getting a Leaf.
A Leaf or a Volt, one of those all-electric cars.
I'm sold on it.
All the details I've read, you buy two batteries, you charge one into your house, you keep one going.
They give you all these tax incentives to get one.
unidentified
Really?
ari shaffir
If you get a home charger, they give you a ton more tax incentives.
I'm talking about like $4,000 to $8,000 for each one.
To go towards the cost of a car.
And then the amount of oil it takes is virtually none.
One of them has almost none, the other one has completely electric.
joe rogan
And how long can it go?
So one of them is a hybrid.
Which one's the hybrid?
ari shaffir
I think that's the Chevy Volt.
I think the Nissan Leaf is the only all-electric car.
joe rogan
And so with both of them, yeah, I think...
ari shaffir
You keep an extra battery in the car.
And they said this, they said more stuff can go wrong.
Wrong.
There's only one thing.
The engine is way simpler.
You just took out this battery, put another one in.
Nothing can go wrong.
Way more can break on a regular car.
brian redban
They have Priuses down pretty good right now.
ari shaffir
Yeah, and they have an even better thing, all electric.
brian redban
I think if you're somewhere and you need fucking energy, you can't rely just on energy.
You have to have gas.
Because what if this whole thing fails and they decide, yeah, fuck this.
You at least want your car to be able to take ass.
ari shaffir
What if they say fuck what?
What whole thing fails?
joe rogan
Civilization.
You know how it is.
brian redban
What if these batteries become, you know, like they stop making the car.
The company goes out of business.
ari shaffir
Nissan?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ, bro.
ari shaffir
Nissan and Chevy are going out of business?
unidentified
Just like Pontiac or just like all the other car companies that went out of business.
brian redban
So if they stop making these batteries and they're on eBay for $50 million each.
ari shaffir
How long would it have to be when it's around until you get a car like that?
brian redban
I will get a hybrid.
I'll get a Prius type thing.
ari shaffir
But how long would electrical stuff have to be around before you say, okay, it's going to be around.
It's not just going to end all of a sudden.
brian redban
When all the batteries are the same for every single car.
ari shaffir
Oh, what's the law where completely you have to get that car?
That's the only time you'll switch.
joe rogan
You know the way I feel now?
ari shaffir
I'm way before that.
joe rogan
The way I feel where I know that there's some sort of a peak oil situation and we're slowly going to run out of resources and electric cars will slowly take over.
I fucking love driving a big, fat, stupid V8 right now, because I know these are the last of the Mohicans.
ari shaffir
I never get any pleasure out of that.
joe rogan
My Mustang, dude?
ari shaffir
I like going fast.
joe rogan
Why don't you drive my Mustang?
I'll let you drive.
You've been in that thing before.
You want to drive it?
You'll get it once you drive it.
Once you get behind that thing in that all-aluminum block, 550 fucking horsepower, the snarl of four-inch tailpipes, come on!
ari shaffir
Can they not make a fast car like that?
joe rogan
It won't sound right.
It won't be right.
It'll be cool.
They have a Tesla.
The Tesla Roadster.
That's a very fast car.
Yeah, the Tesla Roadster is a very fast car.
And it's interesting because it's a little sports car.
But it's all balanced, all fucked up.
ari shaffir
I got a Honda right now, so I'm not getting that joy anyway.
brian redban
Yeah, he doesn't care.
joe rogan
I know you're not getting the joy, but you should.
You should.
Because you drive a five, six speed, right?
ari shaffir
Five speed, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, your car is a manual.
It's a manual, right?
ari shaffir
No, no, yeah, manual.
joe rogan
Well, if you have a manual, man, you know what it's like to shift all the time, okay?
That's what you're doing all day.
ari shaffir
My first car was a manual, a Datsun.
joe rogan
I like manuals.
I like them for real cars.
I don't like them for traffic, but I like them for real cars.
When you drive a Mustang, and it's one of those GT500s and a manual, and you shift through the fucking gears, you feel it, though.
You feel the mechanics.
You engage the gear yourself.
ari shaffir
You definitely control a lot more how long you're going to go in overdrive until you downshift.
How much speed you can get.
You can't do that with an automatic car.
You're just hoping it keeps shifting at the right time.
joe rogan
You have, yeah, well you can definitely, today they have these called double clutch boxes, like M3 has a double clutch box, and what that is is an automatic, but it's a standard.
Like you can set it up to shift gears, where you could rev it up as far as you want and use the paddles to shift gears, like all the Ferraris.
ari shaffir
So you can do it yourself like a bike, like a bicycle.
unidentified
Exactly.
joe rogan
You can rev it to as long as your heart's content, but you shift with the paddles and it's instantaneous.
The shifts are like one fraction of a section.
Many, many cars have it now.
unidentified
What's it called?
joe rogan
It's called a double clutch gearbox.
And what it means is, it's actually a 7-speed.
The M3 has one.
And it's a 7-speed.
And what it is, is there's one gear that's inside.
You're engaged one gear.
And then the clutch will already pick up the second gear.
So as you're shifting gears, the next gear is like instantaneous.
Okay.
When it releases the first gear and picks up the second gear, it does it with no downtime.
ari shaffir
When you're shifting in a regular car, you have to press on the accelerator.
joe rogan
You go to neutral when you hit the clutch, you put it in the second gear, and then you release the clutch, and now it's in second gear.
This thing, you don't.
It's first gear, second gear.
It's instantaneous.
brian redban
That electric car, how long does that take to charge a battery?
Like 12 hours?
ari shaffir
No, not nearly that long.
You can charge it overnight.
You can have an iPod program that sets it to charge during non-peak hours.
brian redban
Each charge is what, 80 miles?
ari shaffir
No, way more than that.
You've got to look at the research.
It's way better than what you think.
I'm telling you, look into the stats.
joe rogan
They're most about 300 right now.
ari shaffir
Because right now you're asking me to quote yourself and I don't know what the stats are.
You guessed 80 and I don't know.
joe rogan
He got excited.
brian redban
Notice he raised his voice.
ari shaffir
I can hear you're trying to make points on stuff we're all just guessing.
brian redban
Here's what the point was.
ari shaffir
80 miles would be way too little.
brian redban
You want to drive to Texas.
So you need seven batteries.
ari shaffir
No, you just fill up the gas stations.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Listen to you laughing like anyone's driving to Texas.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
When the fuck is the last time you drove to Texas?
You're like, oh, you need seven batteries?
ari shaffir
They have a 20-minute quick charge.
Let's drive it to Texas.
brian redban
If you want to ever take a road trip.
ari shaffir
Okay, yeah, listen.
unidentified
Oh, wait a minute.
joe rogan
Hold on, Ari.
This thing only gets 99 miles.
ari shaffir
99 miles total of a leaf?
joe rogan
Per charge.
Yes.
brian redban
So you want to go to Vegas, you got to bring three batteries?
unidentified
That ain't shit.
ari shaffir
Or you just have to stop at 99 miles.
brian redban
And then charge for six hours?
How long did that take to charge a battery?
ari shaffir
Here's what I like, that you got happy that it wasn't as good as 300 miles.
brian redban
No, because...
ari shaffir
Because you had made the point earlier, so now you're glad that it's not 300 miles.
brian redban
No, I'm just saying that if you're going to get a car, for the most part, get a mix.
You don't want all batteries, is what I'm saying.
ari shaffir
If I could get 300 miles, I would want a battery.
If I get to go 300 miles, then I charge?
joe rogan
Actually, this is up to 100 miles, which means you're probably going to get like 60. That's way too low.
ari shaffir
How much is a Volt?
That doesn't seem like it should be out in the market yet.
unidentified
Yeah.
brian redban
Exactly.
joe rogan
Well, you know what?
The EPA has rated the Nissan Leaf a driving range of 73 miles.
ari shaffir
Per charge?
joe rogan
Range will vary with driving habits, conditions, weather, and battery age.
ari shaffir
But 73 miles?
No, that's not really useful.
joe rogan
That's whack.
And it's ugly as fuck.
Dude, I'm going to take you to the Ford website and show you the GT500. You know what I do want to get?
Take some of that fucking commercial model.
ari shaffir
What cars?
brian redban
The little baby micro smart cars.
Just for driving to the store.
ari shaffir
Yeah, easy to park.
Totally easy to park.
joe rogan
Smart cars.
ari shaffir
They're not as bad as you think, safety-wise.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
No fun.
unidentified
You don't feel the growl of the V8. Well, I mean, just a tour of small tasks.
ari shaffir
You can get out of your car and get into that store.
joe rogan
You don't like that?
That doesn't give you a thrill?
ari shaffir
That's when I'm getting on an open highway.
brian redban
How old are you?
37. You're going to like it in about five years.
ari shaffir
Like what?
joe rogan
Open highway is cool.
You know what's great though?
Windy roads.
That's when it's great to have a fun car.
ari shaffir
I get too scared now.
joe rogan
You don't even have to drive fast.
You don't have to drive fast.
Just the feeling of, you know, just a little bit of a windiness in the road.
It makes you, you're controlling the car.
You feel the tightness of the suspension.
Okay, the Nissan Volt.
Jesus Christ.
50 miles.
ari shaffir
50 miles?
joe rogan
50 miles on its fucking battery.
ari shaffir
Oh, that's ridiculous.
You can't even get to work.
joe rogan
The all-electric range, the EPA, oh my god.
The all-electric range, according to the EPA, is 35 miles.
Yeah, you get stuck on traffic on the 405. The total range is 379 miles.
So that means if you fill up a gas, your fuel economy is through the roof.
It's 93 miles per gallon.
That's incredible.
So, that's if you go in...
ari shaffir
Half and half.
joe rogan
Yeah, 37 miles an hour.
unidentified
Do they have the recharge thing, like the Prius says?
ari shaffir
Where the brakes recharge it?
joe rogan
Okay, this is what it is.
It's 93 miles per gallon in all-electric mode.
I don't understand that.
And 37 miles per gallon in gasoline-only mode.
So, I guess you have the...
You have the option.
So, a combined gas and electric fuel economy rating of 60 miles per gallon.
brian redban
Pretty fucking good, man.
ari shaffir
15?
unidentified
My car gets 15. And that's what it's rated at, so it probably gets 10. My car gets like 27 or something.
brian redban
I need to switch my car, but I want an SUV, and I don't want...
I think they have the Ford Edge.
ari shaffir
Why do you like an SUV so much?
joe rogan
This is kind of interesting, though, the Chevy Volt.
What it does is it operates on pure battery power until its battery capacity is depleted, at which point it fires up the engine.
So then the gasoline engine powers an electric generator to extend the vehicle's range.
So that's how it operates.
It mostly operates on electricity, as long as you have enough power in there.
ari shaffir
Oh, that's why it wasn't the same as a Prius.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
I was like, how is it different if it's half and half?
It's not quite half and half.
joe rogan
It definitely seems like a better move than the Volt because at least you can get gas.
ari shaffir
You're talking about the Volt?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The Volt is better than the Leaf because the hybrid seems to be the way to go.
ari shaffir
Yeah, if you're 76 miles, unless you're just driving five miles back and forth to work, that's not realistic at all.
Any road trip, you're fucked.
joe rogan
I always, yeah, I always think, what if I had to go on a road trip?
And I know you said that.
ari shaffir
They did say there was some sort of 70% charge you can get in 20 minutes.
brian redban
Really?
ari shaffir
Yeah, like a quick charge on, I don't know, one of them.
But the problem is you don't want to stop and have to do that in 60 miles.
joe rogan
That's weak.
But this thing sounds better.
This thing can go 370 miles, and this is like a normal car.
You just go and you get gas, and it can keep going.
ari shaffir
And that one you keep shifting.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
They just have weak-ass engines.
They sound like shit.
I know that these are for transportation, but we're going to miss.
There's something we're already missing in the transition between the gasoline-powered cars, like you get in an old Mustang, you smell Yeah, we miss the smog.
We definitely do.
But we also miss the analog connection between the person and the vehicle.
There's a fun connection between cars.
ari shaffir
My aunt got some nice car once, like a Lexus or an Infiniti or something, and it had a...
Analog clock on it.
And I was like, why do you have that?
She goes, because it's classier.
She was so excited to have this thing.
And I was like, it's harder to read.
Why is that classier?
Why don't you get a stick shift then?
What are you talking about?
brian redban
She writes in cursive too.
ari shaffir
It's like, well, it's not easy to read clock.
joe rogan
They do that with Lexuses.
ari shaffir
Yeah, maybe it was a Lexus.
And I'm like, it's just hard.
You're looking for a split second to see what time it is.
You're not supposed to figure out where the big hand is.
joe rogan
Isn't it funny that digital watches never really caught on?
ari shaffir
No.
joe rogan
Especially if you want to be classy.
Get yourself a Rolex.
Get yourself a nice Cartier.
Yeah, not digital.
unidentified
Why?
ari shaffir
It's so much easier to read.
joe rogan
I know.
ari shaffir
More exact.
You don't have to wind it.
joe rogan
What is it?
What is it about that?
ari shaffir
It's all aesthetic.
It's got to be all aesthetic.
joe rogan
They used to make Corvettes with digital speedometers, and it was so weak.
ari shaffir
Oh, really?
joe rogan
You'd hear the growl of the engine.
You'd hit the gas.
You'd put the fucking foot in gear.
You'd put the clutch in and gate.
You'd see the digital numbers.
Like, what kind of stupidity is this?
There's something about it.
You want to see a needle move.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
You want to see it.
You don't want to just...
brian redban
Did they have a remake of the Cuda?
Because I swear to God I saw a brand new Cuda the other day.
Or Barracuda.
joe rogan
Yeah, the Challenger.
brian redban
That's what it is.
joe rogan
Challenger and Barracudas shared a lot of the same body shape.
And a lot of the same panels.
ari shaffir
Is that the Challenger one with the Hemi engine?
joe rogan
Well, you know, there's some with Emmys, some with not.
brian redban
How are those cards?
joe rogan
They look awesome.
Chris has one.
Aubrey, excuse me.
brian redban
Aubrey.
joe rogan
Did you know that Aubrey, I'm going to tell you this before I forget, he runs a Nails website.
brian redban
Oh, I found out about this.
Yeah, my girlfriend told me about this.
joe rogan
Alpha Nails?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
The same dude that sells Alpha Brain, which is legit.
brian redban
And you made fun of guys wearing nails on that podcast, I believe, at one point.
And I looked over and I'm like, he's wearing these.
joe rogan
I did?
brian redban
Yeah, he said something.
joe rogan
I think I made fun of dudes getting pedicures.
brian redban
Yeah, but I think, or you were like, or those people that get nail polish.
unidentified
No.
brian redban
And I'm like, I look over...
joe rogan
I've never done that.
I don't think I've ever made fun of that.
unidentified
Are you sure?
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
No.
I've made fun of guys getting pedicures.
I've made fun of guys, like...
ari shaffir
I did it once.
joe rogan
And manicures.
I'm sure.
I did it once for a sketch.
brian redban
I do it all the time.
joe rogan
For manicures.
You know, it's just like guys who get, like, a clear gloss over their fingernails.
Like, that's...
You're just trying to look pretty.
You know, Tate used to do his nails.
You know, he's always painting his nails.
A lot of MMA guys paint their nails.
ari shaffir
I used to paint my nails in college and a little bit afterwards.
joe rogan
Well, this guy runs a website.
brian redban
Yeah, it's...
I forget what it's called, but it's...
joe rogan
Alpha Nails.
brian redban
Yeah, Alpha Nails.
joe rogan
Because he's got Alpha Brain and Alpha Nails.
unidentified
And it's got, like, people that do it, like Dave Navarro says, I love to put a little paint on before going out and sucking some dick.
joe rogan
Dave Navarro was on Howard Stern the other day and I was listening.
It was fucking really compelling.
Especially one part where they said that, you know, America's Most Wanted, they found his mom's murderer.
ari shaffir
Whose mom's?
Dave Navarro's mom?
joe rogan
Someone murdered Dave Navarro's mom and found the guy on America's Most Wanted.
unidentified
Whoa.
ari shaffir
And that show got canceled.
joe rogan
Yeah.
You know, America's Most Wanted, man.
They were talking about how many people have been caught because of America's Most Wanted.
It's a lot of fucking.
Really?
ari shaffir
Directly because of that, or a lot of people they showed got caught?
joe rogan
Got caught directly because of that show.
ari shaffir
Wow, that's amazing.
joe rogan
Well, if you think about that show, man...
ari shaffir
That does more good than the Kardashians.
joe rogan
How many people are watching it?
Millions.
Millions of people are watching it, and then that person is a fucking target now.
ari shaffir
He's like, fuck, turn this off!
Everybody turn it off!
joe rogan
People are stans, man.
People, you know, you're working at a gas station, this guy pulls in, yeah, like, get changed for 20, like, you motherfucker!
And you make a phone call, and next thing you have...
ari shaffir
Damn.
joe rogan
Good luck.
You can't go Bonnie and Clyde today, man.
It's too hard.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Did you hear about those kids in Florida that tried them?
ari shaffir
Tried to do a Bonnie and Clyde?
joe rogan
The stripper and her two brothers wanted a fucking shooting spree and robbing banks with automatic weapons and shit.
They started out in Florida and they just got caught in Colorado in a shootout.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
The broad got hit in the leg with a bullet.
Yeah, they were shooting at the cops.
They didn't kill them, though.
ari shaffir
That's another fake car.
That's another warm country.
Warm area.
joe rogan
Florida?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's another warm area?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
But they have storms, dude.
ari shaffir
Oh, yeah.
Florida has storms.
You have to deal with that from bank robbers.
brian redban
You have to deal with Florida.
joe rogan
Florida is the land of the lost.
We've said it a bunch of times, but it's true.
That is the most vacant city, or the most vacant state, the most...
There's something mentally.
Mentally, emotionally.
They're detached.
They're fucked up.
It's a weird...
I like going there.
It's a lot of fun.
Don't get me wrong.
There's a lot of cool people there.
My fucking parents live there.
It's not that everyone there is shitty.
But there's so much...
So many people moved to Florida to escape and to hide.
So many New York gangsters went down to Florida to lay low.
brian redban
It's like New York with good weather.
joe rogan
It's way worse.
brian redban
Mafia style.
joe rogan
It's way worse.
It's more like...
I would say it's like the worst parts of Jersey.
unidentified
There's some rural parts of Florida.
ari shaffir
Yeah, like Jacksonville area or in between Jacksonville and Tampa or something.
joe rogan
Swampland, dog.
That's where we're going to put our compound on.
ari shaffir
People who live there have real spells.
joe rogan
That's where we're going to put our compound on.
ari shaffir
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Yeah, we're going to make it all out of cement and steel so that no hurricanes can take it down.
ari shaffir
Like the evil Justice League.
joe rogan
Did they have all that?
ari shaffir
Yeah, they had an evil Justice League that was in some swampland.
joe rogan
Really?
ari shaffir
Yeah, Justice League of America.
joe rogan
Because if you wanted to be evil, you'd go to a swamp, right?
ari shaffir
Yeah, no one could see them.
It was like the Mix-a-Plex, the anti-Superman, I think.
It's tough to remember everything.
joe rogan
I was watching this documentary on the Congo, and people actually tried to move to the Congo, like wealthy Europeans.
ari shaffir
Why?
joe rogan
Well, because there's an immense amount of resources in the Congo.
The Congo has diamonds and gold and minerals.
There's a lot of money to be made in the Congo.
And that's why there's so much civil war there going on right now.
So many people are getting murdered in the Congo because they're trying to rob all the shit out of that region.
That's why all these women are getting raped.
The Congo is a terrible, terrible place.
That's a great excuse for raping.
ari shaffir
What are you doing raping because of the gold?
joe rogan
They want to take over villages.
They rape all the women.
They demoralize the men.
They shoot the young men and rape the women.
But these wealthy Europeans, at the turn of the century, tried to build mansions there.
They have these beautiful mansions in the Congo, completely abandoned.
It's overrun with jungle and monsters and fucking spiders that act in packs and big cats and chimpanzees.
I mean, you can't fucking just build a house there, dude, and play polo in your backyard because you got some money.
Like, a lot of really wealthy people are like, this is an amazing place.
We're going to build a home here.
And this is back when people didn't even have, you know, they didn't even have, like, powerful boats, you know?
They didn't have planes.
They didn't have cars.
But they're moving fucking...
Big boards and all this construction equipment in there, and they're trying to build houses in the Congo.
ari shaffir
Wow.
unidentified
Good luck.
joe rogan
That's just like building in a swamp.
ari shaffir
I know how that is.
joe rogan
It's the same thing.
brian redban
Look at these body kits for these electric cars.
If you search Google for body kits, they have little Lambos, little Porsches.
Look at that.
ari shaffir
Wait, are those like mini cars?
brian redban
Yeah, these are like little Corvettes.
ari shaffir
Wait, these fit in your hand?
joe rogan
No, no, no, these are your drive.
Scroll up, scroll up, scroll up a little bit.
unidentified
Look at that.
joe rogan
Scroll up a little.
ari shaffir
Oh, so you put like a different body?
joe rogan
That middle one, that Corvette GT. Yeah.
That is, I mean, the Carrera GT, the Porsche, that is nasty.
ari shaffir
And that's like a smart car?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian redban
Yeah, it's just like body kits you can buy for those smart cars.
ari shaffir
How much are they?
brian redban
I don't know.
joe rogan
That must be a lot of money, dude.
Those look pretty fancy-schmancy.
brian redban
Yeah, that's pretty sweet.
But those batteries for that Leaf thing you were talking about, $10,000 a battery.
ari shaffir
$10,000 a battery.
brian redban
And they take eight hours to charge.
ari shaffir
Eight hours.
joe rogan
Whoa.
ari shaffir
Yeah, they'd have to get a little better than that.
joe rogan
Dude, those little smart car fake Ferraris are the shit.
brian redban
That's what I'm talking about.
Can you imagine us all driving around with these things?
ari shaffir
Yeah, it's $10,000, but you get $5,000 back from the government immediately.
You get $5,000 back from the government immediately.
joe rogan
So it's $5,000 for a battery.
ari shaffir
No, for the charging kit.
joe rogan
Those are fucking badass.
ari shaffir
Yeah, those are cool.
I like the truck.
I like the SUV. The gold one.
Go to the gold one.
joe rogan
Yeah, I like that.
Why doesn't someone make a real one like that?
Like, make it fast.
brian redban
Yeah, right.
joe rogan
Give it some power.
ari shaffir
That looks like a micro-machine.
brian redban
That's exactly what they look like.
ari shaffir
Oh, really?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Someday they'll be laughing at all this.
You had to actually go somewhere.
ari shaffir
In a car.
joe rogan
You couldn't just beam up.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
brian redban
Idiot.
ari shaffir
Old man.
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Go to the back.
joe rogan
Yeah.
People will have, on their body, they'll have some ability to fly through the air and manipulate the matter around them to fly around.
That's definitely going to happen someday.
They're going to be laughing at stupid people in their cars.
Hitting the brakes.
They rely on traction to slow down.
ari shaffir
What if the rubber popped?
I know!
They were getting into accidents.
joe rogan
Oh, all the time.
They did blowouts.
They were idiots.
Look at people on horses.
What if the horse's legs broke?
You had to shoot it.
unidentified
No way!
ari shaffir
Your car?
No way!
That's crazy.
joe rogan
What if the car dies?
You just get rid of it.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Just get rid of it?
They just got rid of their cars?
Like, someday there'll be no need to recycle.
Because we won't ever, you know, we won't ever look at resources that way.
We'll be in harmony with nature.
Maybe.
ari shaffir
Maybe, I don't think.
unidentified
Maybe not.
joe rogan
Maybe we're just fucking pigs.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Gluttons.
Maybe we are here to eat the sandwich.
ari shaffir
Destroy the world.
joe rogan
Yeah, maybe.
ari shaffir
Eat the sandwich.
Eat the sandwich.
joe rogan
Well, it was my thing in the beginning of my Showtime special.
I said that I look at people like mold on a sandwich.
You look at mold on a sandwich, you don't see individual mold sports with individual personalities.
If you were an alien life form, completely alien to Earth, and you saw human beings, you would go, there's a growth.
This is a growth.
You look at cities, and you fly into Los Angeles.
You look at the nature.
You look at the ocean, the mountains.
It's all beautiful and natural.
And then you see cities.
It really does look like something's growing there.
And I said, well, maybe that's what we're here for.
Maybe we are just like mold on a sandwich.
Maybe we're here to eat the sandwich.
Maybe that's it.
Maybe we're here to fuck things up.
Probably not.
Maybe we don't have a fucking purpose.
ari shaffir
We don't just exist.
brian redban
Build the robots to kill us.
joe rogan
It seems to be the process of complexity.
We're a part of the process of complexity.
If there is a purpose or a need or a direction that everything's going in, it's going in that way.
Everything's getting more and more complex.
It seems to be inevitable.
It seems to be an ethic.
It seems to be just the way things work.
ari shaffir
Wow.
joe rogan
Don't you think about it?
ari shaffir
Of what?
unidentified
Complexity.
joe rogan
Everything.
Everything is moving in a direction of complexity.
It's all moving.
ari shaffir
Yeah, it's getting a lot more advanced really fast.
joe rogan
The whole universe is.
The universe starts out with a small, tiny spot, smaller than the head of a pin, blows up, expands, multicellular life forms.
That becomes intelligent, sent in, able to change its environment.
Then it starts changing at a rapid pace.
It all seems to be a direction and an ethic.
ari shaffir
So what do you think?
What do you got to do differently?
joe rogan
Can't do anything differently.
I think we're trying to pretend that we have it solved.
And we're trying to pretend like, oh, as people, we need to get together.
It would be nice if we were cool to each other.
That would be nice.
It would be nice if we could all enjoy our time here and not be cunts.
That would be nice.
But that's all dictated by resources.
ari shaffir
Way before the West Coast.
Even when it's not nice, like San Francisco, still people are cooler to each other.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, it's because they moved away from the East Coast.
Everybody initially landed on the East Coast.
And the ones who couldn't take it anymore said, fuck this, I'm going West.
And they kept going.
I think the one thing that we can do, everybody says, people need to figure out a way to work this out.
We need to work together to change the way.
I don't know if that's going to...
I have a feeling that what we're doing is natural.
I have a feeling war, corruption, the depletion of resources.
It seems to me that every other animal that does fucked up things, whether it's hyenas kidnapping dogs, have you ever seen that?
Yeah, have you seen that?
Not hyenas, baboons kidnapping puppies.
They raise puppies.
They have feral puppies.
They become dogs.
They stay with them their whole life.
And they guard their camps.
So the baboons sleep at night and the dogs bark.
It's intense.
It's complicated though.
But people look at it and they don't go, oh my god, what is this?
They go, oh, this is natural.
The baboons have figured out that if they kidnap these puppies, they can get these puppies to guard the camp.
ari shaffir
So you think it's natural then for humans to war with each other?
joe rogan
Yes, 100%.
It's happened forever.
ari shaffir
Just because it's natural doesn't mean it's good for us.
joe rogan
No, it doesn't mean it's good for us, but it sort of means that it's going to...
See, but you say good for us, you're talking about you.
You're talking about you.
It is definitely good for those people that are getting money out of the war.
You say it's not, but for those Dick Cheney characters that are getting billions of dollars while little brown people get bombed on, it is good for them.
They profit for us.
So, it is natural for someone who is unscrupulous to pursue those paths because there's money to be made from it.
And I think that, you know, it's frowned upon for a bunch of reasons because we're all in this together and we all think that people shouldn't be treating each other like that.
I completely agree, but I think it's natural.
Starfish?
How's that work?
ari shaffir
You ever hear that thing where it's like the guy picked up a starfish, it was on the beach, threw it back in the ocean?
joe rogan
Yeah?
ari shaffir
He was on this beat, and then this friend was like, there's thousands of starfish on this beach.
Like, you can't possibly help to save them all.
Like, what difference are you making?
joe rogan
Right.
ari shaffir
And he goes, well, it matters to that one starfish.
So I'm more like on a smaller level.
joe rogan
Individual, smaller level.
ari shaffir
Let somebody into traffic.
joe rogan
Yes.
Well, look, anything you do...
ari shaffir
It's really easy to make a difference.
joe rogan
Anything you do that makes the world better, whether it's telling jokes to make people laugh, making a song that people like, just saying hi to someone at the grocery store, and it gives them a nice, warm smile...
Anything you do that's positive is good.
Anything you do that helps people is good.
Anything you do that makes this experience better.
But ultimately, it's all temporary.
The entire experience of life on this planet for everyone, including your future children, it's all completely temporary.
ari shaffir
Just enjoy it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
You've got to enjoy it.
The direction that it's going, if you were looking at this direction, if you were looking at human behavior, if you were looking at any other animal that was behaving like this, you would assume that it's natural.
When bees make beehives, you assume it's natural.
This is what they do.
When ants make some giant, complicated ant farms, they make incredible ant hills, man.
Monstrous, giant constructions.
We just assume that it's all natural.
When human beings act We should probably assume that it's natural.
We should probably assume that this is what this species does.
We just are so cocky we think that we can avoid our nature.
We're so cocky we think that we can manipulate our nature.
And maybe we can.
ari shaffir
We can.
That's why I put laws out.
joe rogan
Sort of.
It just kind of slows it down.
It stops it from being completely chaotic.
Most of the laws are set up so people can have more fun and enjoy more time here and have more pleasure and less pain.
Less pain, more pleasure.
Make this transient moment better.
Feel better for the people that are participating in it.
But when you get past that, man, what is it?
What the fuck is all this?
How come war never ends?
How come we're always coming up with new reasons for it?
How about corporate corruption never ends?
2011, this $16 trillion bailout thing that we're hearing about.
How come there's so much money missing in Iraq and Afghanistan?
There's billions of dollars in cash went over there.
I don't know where the fuck it is.
But yet...
War rolls on despite all protests.
Corruption rolls on despite all protests.
ari shaffir
A lot of people agree with it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
They what?
ari shaffir
Not the corruption, but with war.
A lot of people agree with it.
joe rogan
Just because they're ignorant.
They don't understand.
I mean, go read War Was a Racket by General Smedley Butler in 1933, this fucking guy.
Major General in the Marines wrote this fucking incredible book, an incredible paper about war, about how all his career he thought that he was protecting people and trying to promote freedom, and really he was just making things safe for bankers, making things safe for oil companies.
It's all about money, and that's why he wrote war as a racket.
You know, the idea of a racket being something that's corrupt and set up.
ari shaffir
Yeah, you only need an army, really, because other people have armies.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Exactly.
ari shaffir
Otherwise there's really no reason for it at all.
joe rogan
What a fucking bummer.
What a stupid way to end the podcast.
So on a positive note, dude, you're fucking touring all over the country now, man.
You've completely, over the last year and a half, you've completely broken through.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
unidentified
I feel like more of a draw.
ari shaffir
I don't think they're happening.
joe rogan
You're a real comic now.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
How much of that is your podcast?
ari shaffir
A lot.
joe rogan
A lot.
ari shaffir
That's only been for four or five months.
joe rogan
But that four or five months made a big difference.
ari shaffir
This podcast too.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Helps a shit ton.
And then I feel like my comedy's gotten better.
It's hitting sort of a new level.
joe rogan
The down and dirty on Jim Norton and all the internet exposure.
You've got a lot of internet exposure.
Yeah.
Well, this podcast is just like being on, you know, a radio station.
It's like being on a giant radio station.
ari shaffir
It's like every time I go on stage now somewhere, there's people, like workout sets that I don't promote at all.
Just, you know, comedy sort of, and then it's like you hear people clapping extra hard.
It's nice.
It's really nice.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's crazy.
You always needed something.
You always needed that.
We always thought that it would be something like Comedy Central.
ari shaffir
Something mainstream.
You know, Robbie from Just for Laughs told me this like two years ago when I went.
He was like, you ain't going to do a special, man.
That's just not going to be your path.
Look at your comedy.
Really?
You think Comedy Central?
I mean, think about it.
joe rogan
Dude, Comedy Central put my special on.
ari shaffir
I know.
That's kind of ridiculous.
But he was like, it's just not going to be your path.
They're not going to book you.
So find another way.
I don't know.
Maybe it's internet stuff.
unidentified
I have no idea.
joe rogan
It is.
That's what did it.
ari shaffir
And Marin, definitely.
joe rogan
Yeah, for sure.
ari shaffir
It's selling out because of it.
joe rogan
Who knows?
It's a totally new ballgame, man.
And it's a much more intimate relationship with the people that are listening.
First of all, because it kind of goes right into their ears.
They're wearing earbuds and shit, a lot of them.
Or they're in their car alone.
And it's like you're sitting with them in traffic or you're sitting with them while they work.
ari shaffir
Sorry about traffic.
joe rogan
Yeah, sorry.
Maybe you're waiting to use the treadmill and someone's talking.
ari shaffir
Just give up.
joe rogan
Just standing on the treadmill talking to the fat girl next to him.
Get the fucking treadmill.
But the connection's different.
It's different than...
There's never been a time like this, man.
ari shaffir
Tons of people in Canada get on to me from the podcast.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah.
ari shaffir
Tons of people.
They are more than anybody.
joe rogan
We're number one in Canada all the time.
We're number one on iTunes of all podcasts.
We've been on it a bunch of times.
ari shaffir
I met that guy at Breslin.
You ever met him?
The Yuck Yucks guy?
joe rogan
Yes.
ari shaffir
I met him when I went.
He's kind of cool.
He used to be a comic.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yuck Yucks is a good chain.
But I think they keep comics from doing other chains.
ari shaffir
Yeah, they do.
And it's annoying as shit.
I just don't play that.
joe rogan
That's weak.
Well, you don't have to.
But that's weak.
Yuck Yucks in Vancouver isn't Yuck Yucks anymore.
ari shaffir
I think that one's done.
I think there's no Yuck Yucks there.
joe rogan
I just did it, though.
It's another club.
I forget the name of it.
ari shaffir
Absolute?
joe rogan
I don't remember.
You guys are going to be mad.
Because he was a nice guy and I hung out with him.
ari shaffir
Absolute's where the Young Cucks used to be.
I think it's called Absolute Comedy, but I might be wrong.
joe rogan
Is that what it is?
unidentified
I don't think that's the name.
ari shaffir
No, that's the name of the other place in Toronto.
I don't know.
joe rogan
It's in Vancouver, but it's the same place.
It's still that tight little...
ari shaffir
It's like two blocks off the main street.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Whoever knows it, just send it to me on Twitter and I'll say it because I feel bad.
But we did it when I was down there.
We did the club and then we went over and did Yuck Yucks the next day.
We did it after the UFC. It's fun, man.
It's great.
ari shaffir
Yeah, it's fun to go to work out in somewhere.
joe rogan
Or I did it after the weigh-ins.
I did it Friday night.
Yeah, it's great.
And Canada is just one of the best places to fucking perform ever.
ari shaffir
So good.
They're sort of smart audiences.
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Like they understand what comedy is where you're supposed to be quiet and listen and laugh like crazy and then be quiet again and listen.
unidentified
Yeah, America.
ari shaffir
They just understand.
I don't know, it's weird.
Maybe some of that's for festival stuff too, but it's just like...
It's not bad.
joe rogan
All those other gigs we did.
ari shaffir
Yeah, they're always well behaved.
Especially if you get some animals that come to your shows.
joe rogan
Yeah, savages.
unidentified
But they don't really...
ari shaffir
They're different types of animals in Canada.
They're like smart comedy audience animals.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And so you're doing a lot of just for laugh shit.
You just did the Montreal Comedy Festival, right?
Yeah.
What did you do up there?
You did your storyteller shit up there, too.
That's another thing you've gotten really good at.
You've sort of organized a series of shows.
It's all storyteller shows where you get up and people just...
It's a theme.
Everybody has material that they do about whatever fucking theme it is.
ari shaffir
It's made that part of my game a lot stronger.
joe rogan
Your storytelling part?
Yeah.
Yeah, because you can stretch out on that stage, right?
ari shaffir
Yeah, and I have to keep coming up with stories and figuring out what funny is, you know, and working at them.
I've got a fucking show in four weeks.
I don't have a story.
I don't have one that sounds good.
joe rogan
Yeah, you were hurting for a long time, man, trying to break through the comedy scene, but now you've become a legit professional comedian.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
I met these people that run the comic strip in Edmonton.
The husband's like a comic, and the wife just runs it, you know?
And they're like, oh, nice to meet you.
And then their 15-year-old son was like, to me, he was like, can I take my picture with you?
You're the amazing person.
unidentified
I was like, yeah, who is this guy?
joe rogan
15 year old kid.
That's hilarious.
You're fucking ruining this kid's brain.
He's going to get beat up by some Mexicans.
He's going to be out.
They haven't gotten that far.
There's Mexicans up there, dude.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
If there's a job, there's Mexicans.
They'll find a way, man.
They'll find a way, dude.
It's called Comedy Mix.
That's the place in Vancouver.
Comedy Mix, yeah.
Thank you, the whatever.
That's the guy's name.
What a brilliant fucking thing Twitter is, man.
Just be able to ask a question like that.
It's like your own little Wikipedia.
Boom.
How many friends are you up now, too?
Followers?
ari shaffir
19,000.
joe rogan
Shazam, son!
Follow Ari Shaffir, ladies and gentlemen.
A-R-I-S-H-A-F-F-I-R. And follow Red Band.
ari shaffir
I'm a little dirty, though, so if you're a Christian, you don't.
joe rogan
Yeah, that was funny that you said some girl got kidnapped.
A 14-year-old girl got kidnapped.
And Ari goes, I remember sometimes when I was young, I wished I had a different family.
ari shaffir
Yeah, I re-tuned it for that.
People were like, that's too far!
And I thought about it.
I was like, alright, well maybe.
And I was like...
No, I appreciate it as a joke.
joe rogan
No, it's a joke.
ari shaffir
I'm talking about my own experience getting raised.
joe rogan
It's unfortunate that that girl got kidnapped, but you were talking about her own life.
brian redban
I read it like that.
ari shaffir
And you were like, oh!
brian redban
I read it like, oh god, how are you?
joe rogan
Did you?
Well, I have kids.
I have kids and I didn't read it like that.
ari shaffir
My favorite is the people who let you know they're unfollowing you.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Unfollow.
So rude.
ari shaffir
It's like, alright, if you don't like it, you can just go.
You're trying to make some point?
I don't care.
It's totally cool not to like me.
It's totally cool.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I had a bunch of people unfollow me because I was making fun of Easter once.
unidentified
Just little pussies.
Really?
brian redban
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Easter.
Easter money.
joe rogan
You fucking dummies.
ari shaffir
I eat rabbit every Easter just to piss your faces.
joe rogan
Don't say that to Eddie Bravo.
He loves rabbits.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, he's on a rabbit kick, man.
brian redban
I love rabbits.
ari shaffir
Frank Carvoni has a rabbit.
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
He loves it.
joe rogan
I got a bunch in my yard.
And I'm going to eat them when the shit hits the fan.
unidentified
Boom!
joe rogan
Sherlock, lock, boom!
So just to reiterate, this weekend, August 13th, we are in Milwaukee at the Pabst Theater.
That's this Saturday night.
It's me and Joey Diaz.
A rare combination.
ari shaffir
Go out and support.
joe rogan
It's one of the few places where Joey Diaz apparently has no warrants.
ari shaffir
He just hasn't been there.
He has actually told me he's played some cool places in Wisconsin a long time ago.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's been there back in the day.
He knows apparently some great places where we can get good Italian food.
That's what he keeps ranting about.
Oh, the fucking spaghetti and meat sauce!
So that is this weekend, August 13th, this Saturday night.
We're fucking fired up.
The Pabst Theater, it's supposed to be a beautiful place.
Then September 23rd at the Paramount.
What are you doing September 23rd?
ari shaffir
Um, nothing.
joe rogan
Ari Shafir will be joining us.
September 23rd, Ari Shafir is also coming.
ari shaffir
That's the Denver one?
joe rogan
Denver, Colorado.
ari shaffir
That was always amazing, man.
joe rogan
Shazam, bitches.
And there, of course, is a UFC the next night where Ari will want to be because it's Jon Jones versus Quentin Rampage Jr. In Denver, motherfucker, at altitude.
Very difficult to have a five-round fight at altitude.
A title fight in a fucking place where the air is thin as shit.
ari shaffir
I love title fights.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah, you do.
ari shaffir
No one denies how important it is.
joe rogan
Oh, you do, too.
And there's a fucking UFC on Versus this weekend.
I'm the luckiest dude on the planet.
Thank you, everybody, for the birthday tweets.
Thank you to the fleshlight.
Thank you.
Thank you very much.
I'm 44, bitches.
That's right.
You can still be retarded at 44. You can still be a child and never grow up.
It is possible to be a Peter Pan.
I will not mature.
I will stay this way as long as my body stays healthy.
I will not get any more cranky than this.
This is just how I will.
Get off my lawn, kids!
ari shaffir
At that exact age forever.
joe rogan
Thank you to The Fleshlight.
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And then you can shoot loads with a big smile on your face, knowing how much money you're saving.
And you can use that money to buy the new alpha brain pills that we're selling from Onnit.com.
O-N-N-I-T. Every single fucking report I've gotten back is positive.
unidentified
Alpha.
joe rogan
All these people that have tried it.
I'm getting testimonial after testimonial.
Brian's been using it.
I've been using it.
It's safe.
It's not dangerous.
These things that have all been...
Everything has been researched.
There's a frequently asked questions thing that we're putting together for Onnit.com.
But there's actual science behind this.
And it's not like that fucking pill that Bradley Cooper took in that Limitless movie.
It's not going to make you into a genius.
But it does make your brain feel good.
It makes you feel clean.
It makes you feel like you have energy.
Chris or Mark Aubrey Marcus.
Aubrey.
Says it's good for hangovers.
I haven't tried it for that yet, but it is good for jet lag.
ari shaffir
What is his deal?
joe rogan
He's fucking had an ayahuasca trip and changed his name.
brian redban
Listen to the podcast.
joe rogan
It's pretty gay.
Gay with a G-H-E-Y. Like protein.
Whey.
Holla at your boy.
ari shaffir
Thank you to the guy in Ottawa who gave me a bunch of pot and mushrooms.
joe rogan
Yeah, mushrooms too.
ari shaffir
Me and Jay Oakerson did them while we watched A Perfect Circle.
joe rogan
Whoa.
You just took mushrooms from some dude?
ari shaffir
It was pretty cool.
joe rogan
Wow.
A Perfect Circle with a band?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
unidentified
Really?
ari shaffir
They put on a cool show.
I was never really into it as a band, but Jay Oakerson was super into it, so I'm like, alright, let's do it.
joe rogan
Is that with the dude from Tool?
ari shaffir
Yeah, and he stayed, it's the only one lead singer way in the background.
Background in darkness.
Doesn't call any attention to himself at all.
joe rogan
Yeah, Maynard's a weird guy.
I've heard a lot of weird things about him.
ari shaffir
It was a cool show.
joe rogan
But he's good at jiu-jitsu, so I take him.
I say, man, I like you.
You are just like me.
You're one or the other, my friend.
You get in the spa, you put your neck on the line.
Thank you, everybody, for tuning in.
Next week, we got Kevin motherfucking Smith is going to be a guest.
And the return of Duncan Trussell.
And holla at your boy!
I love you, bitches.
And thank you very much for everything.
Thank you for tuning into the podcast.
It means the world to me that you guys enjoy it.
And it would be pretty fucking stupid if we were doing this and nobody was listening.
unidentified
You know what I'm saying?
ari shaffir
That everyone tuned out in the world.
Like, what are we doing?
joe rogan
Bye-bye.
Big kiss.
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