July 27, 2011 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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| Giorgio is in the house from Ancient Aliens. | ||
| Eddie Bravo is in the house. | ||
| Red Band's in the house. | ||
| Buckle up, bitches. | ||
| Mr. Tsoukalos is ready to throw the fuck down. | ||
| This is the magic of fucking Twitter, ladies and gentlemen, and the internet. | ||
| Just something happened. | ||
| I don't remember what we were tweeting about, but all of a sudden, Giorgio tweets me back, and I tweet him, and I say, you want to do my podcast? | ||
| And he says, fuck yeah, and boom! | ||
| And then we meet in Vegas, and we're hanging out in Vegas like we've known each other forever. | ||
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Yeah, we had a good time. | |
| A great fucking time. | ||
| Thank you, dude. | ||
| That was a lot of fucking fun, man. | ||
| Giorgio's a cool cat. | ||
| And, I mean, one of my favorite shows of all time. | ||
| I love that Ancient Aliens. | ||
| I've got a big stack of them. | ||
| I don't necessarily agree with everything, but I don't think you do either. | ||
| I think it's a lot of who knows, right? | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| I mean, that's what I've got from you talking to you in Vegas. | ||
| I was like, man, maybe this dude's crazy. | ||
| Maybe he's going to tell me Atlantis was a spaceship and it flew away. | ||
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You know what I mean? | |
| But you were, like, really open to any possibility, which I truly admire in a person. | ||
| You know, so many people are married to their fucking ideas. | ||
| Even preposterous ideas. | ||
| Like, you know, that David Icke guy really fucking believes that there's reptilians that are running this planet. | ||
| You know, like, and he says he's got facts and information. | ||
| Motherfucker, have you seen a reptilian? | ||
| If you haven't, how can you be sure? | ||
| How can you be... | ||
| When you hear stuff like that, you're in the business of this wild, crazy UFO world where so many people look down on anything that's even remotely outside of the mainstream. | ||
| Oh, that gets ridiculed. | ||
| But when you see a guy like David Icke, do you ever say, I wonder if this motherfucker works for the government? | ||
| Because he says so much cool shit, and so much shit that makes sense, and then he starts talking about reptilians. | ||
| And you've got to go, well, that's classic disinformation. | ||
| That's like the move. | ||
| That's like, you know, if you want to piss in the well, What you do is you throw a bunch of shit in there that really makes sense, like the CIA killed JFK, and, you know, we were in Vietnam for money, and the military industrial complex really does run things, just like Eisenhower said. | ||
| Plus, there's a base on the moon, and we've been going there telepathically for years, and what we do is we have a place where we go where we teleport people, and you have to be naked, and that's why women aren't allowed to be on the base. | ||
| And then you go, what the fuck are you talking about, man? | ||
| And by throwing all that wacky shit in there, you kind of piss on all the stuff that is interesting. | ||
| Because, you know, you can say, well, wait a minute, this guy said that the CIA killed Kennedy, but didn't he also talk about the wacky shit on the moon? | ||
| Right? | ||
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unidentified
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Yeah, no, absolutely. | |
| So, I mean, to me, it's a very easy solution. | ||
| You go with your gut feeling, because there are people out there that say some really crazy stuff, but at the same time, some of the stuff they do say also carries some merit. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So, you know... | ||
| That's a problem, though, isn't it, though? | ||
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unidentified
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Of course it is. | |
| Of course it is. | ||
| But you know what? | ||
| At the end of the day, you just have to let it go and be like, all right, that's what those people are talking about. | ||
| I'm not going to, you know, subscribe to it. | ||
| I think it's crazy, whatever, but that's your own choice. | ||
| Because in the end, we all make a choice of what we believe in, what ideas we subscribe to, and if some of that stuff is crazy, guess what? | ||
| I mean, if you look at Science Today, a science book, there are all these different theories in there and ideas, and it's pretty much the cutting edge of knowledge. | ||
| But if you look at a textbook from 200 years ago, which was published at a university, that too was considered the cutting edge of knowledge at the time. | ||
| Now, if you look at that textbook today, 200 years later, and 99% of that knowledge in there is obsolete. | ||
| Is that true? | ||
| Like, what has been really disproven? | ||
| Like, what field has been completely reworked over the last 200 years? | ||
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unidentified
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So there's the old stuff that's useless. | |
| You know, most stuff gets updated. | ||
| But how much of it is, like, completely obsolete, I wonder? | ||
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Well, you know, I mean, it all comes down to, you know, medicine. | |
| Right. | ||
| There were certain procedures that at the time were considered to be, you know, perfect. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Like radiation treatment. | ||
| We're actually broadcasting this from the station on Mars, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| Yeah, this is telepathically done. | ||
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unidentified
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Yeah, shit. | |
| Shit goes down. | ||
| It gets ugly. | ||
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unidentified
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You know the thing you said about David Icke, Alex Jones. | |
| Alex Jones. | ||
| He, David Icke, totally think he was a show. | ||
| He was on YouTube calling him a show. | ||
| And now they're friends. | ||
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And they go on each other's shows. | |
| But we know Alex. | ||
| I wanted you to hang out with Alex that one weekend in Vegas because you're a big Alex Jones fan. | ||
| I'm like, listen, brother, I love Alex, too. | ||
| I love Alex, too. | ||
| But come on, let's hang out with the dude. | ||
| And then you get a better sense of what Alex... | ||
| Alex Jones is Alex Jones 24-7. | ||
| Whether it's there's a fucking conspiracy to keep him from getting a cigarette or she's trying to keep me from that beer. | ||
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This woman who works at the bar knows I want a beer, sees me, avoids me, avoids eye contact. | |
| Probably been told by the management to keep me from having a beer. | ||
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It was about the tickets. | |
| Remember the tickets? | ||
| Everything. | ||
| Anything. | ||
| He was worried that we weren't really going to get him the UFC tickets. | ||
| I'm like, brother, you're good. | ||
| You're my friend. | ||
| We're cool. | ||
| He's a great guy. | ||
| He's a great guy. | ||
| But he's crazy. | ||
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unidentified
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You know? | |
| And you have to be crazy to dig for the truth that much. | ||
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And like I say about Alex, he's right about a lot of shit. | |
| I don't know what the percentage is. | ||
| I always throw out a number, like he's right about 70%. | ||
| But the 30% fucks him. | ||
| That he just, you know, kind of fills in the blanks. | ||
| There's a lot of filling in the blanks. | ||
| But the 70% that he's, or whatever number it is, that he is right. | ||
| It's worth it. | ||
| It's shocking. | ||
| And he's a perfect example of what you were talking about before. | ||
| Like, where you have to kind of, like, use your own filter. | ||
| There's a lot of stuff that he says that has an incredible amount of merit. | ||
| It's absolutely correct. | ||
| And there's some stuff that he says. | ||
| You just go, what? | ||
| What the fuck are you talking about? | ||
| He gets crazy. | ||
| He doesn't go reptilian crazy, but he gets deep in. | ||
| New world order. | ||
| He gets, like, eugenics crazy. | ||
| He gets, like, he's sure they have a population decrease plan where they're going to kill off I'm not saying it's outside the realm of possibility. | ||
| Your business, though, is filled with that. | ||
| I mean, look, there are hundreds of billions of stars in this galaxy, and we have already spotted so many of them over the last couple decades, or a couple years, rather, that are in the Goldilocks zone, where they know could possibly inhabit life. | ||
| They spotted... | ||
| I don't know what the number are, but it increases all the time. | ||
| They're constantly finding planets that could possibly support life, and planets that are older than ours, by a billion years plus. | ||
| Oh, absolutely. | ||
| And the fascinating thing is that, you know, in the 60s and 70s, when Eric Von Daniken first wrote Chariots of the Gods, you know, the general consensus in the 60s and 70s was that this discussion was even more taboo than it is today, obviously. | ||
| But back then... | ||
| You know, it was like, you know, maybe we're alone in the universe and there was only a handful like Frank Drake and Carl Sagan who proposed the idea or dabbled with the idea that, you know, we might not be the only ones in the universe. | ||
| In the mainstream legitimate scientific academic community. | ||
| You'd be hard-pressed to find any scientist or any astronomer or astrophysicist that will tell you that they think we're alone in the universe. | ||
| So we've definitely switched where it's almost a given now that everyone thinks that their intelligent life exists in the universe. | ||
| However, the big taboo topic that we have today that still remains is, okay, they'll say there is life in the universe or in the galaxy, but there is no way that that intelligent life could have ever been here or visited Earth in the remote past or even present day. | ||
| And that to me... | ||
| It's a fallacy in logic because, granted, the distances between the stars are indeed huge. | ||
| They're mind-boggling. | ||
| But just because we can't get from point A to point B doesn't mean another society that, like you mentioned or you said or inferred, that they're a billion years older than us, or their world at least is a billion years older than us, Well, I mean, we are a very, very young culture by any means of the imagination. | ||
| So someone that's only 100,000 years older, I mean, they have technologies or other type of something where they combine biology with technology and things like that that we couldn't even dream of right now. | ||
| Yeah, our imagination is the only thing that limits us from seeing what they could possibly be. | ||
| We have given them a thousand years in advance of us, a million years, or even a few hundred years, man. | ||
| Look what Nikola Tesla was doing in the early 20th century, and look at what's going on today. | ||
| I mean, that's a gigantic, monumental leap in just a little over a hundred years. | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| Well, I mean, just imagine showing your great-grandpa one of our phones today. | ||
| I mean, to him... | ||
| Even Star Trek couldn't fuck with that, right? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| They thought you were going to be able to beam people onto a planet, but they still had walkie-talkies. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Kirk out. | ||
| They couldn't wrap their head around the idea that you would have real-time communication on a planet. | ||
| They're like, that's too stupid. | ||
| We can beam people there, but you can't have Google. | ||
| Nobody ever thought of Google. | ||
| The idea that you can just talk into it, you Google talk, the voice thing, you press the voice thing, you go Eddie Bravo. | ||
| It Googles Eddie Bravo. | ||
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Wikipedia page, videos, it's fucking amazing. | |
| And even with 3G, it's not 4G yet, but it's fast as fuck, man. | ||
| Any alien species that's a thousand years from us, The idea that we're going to know what they can do is absolutely silly. | ||
| We already understand the principle of folding space-time and meeting those two points and having a gateway somehow to something. | ||
| They know the possibility of this existing in the universe. | ||
| Completely theoretical, but so many things were theoretical just a couple of hundred years ago. | ||
| I mean, look at what they're doing right now with CERN, with this Higgs-Boson Collider and that We're good to go. | ||
| Something a thousand years from now, my thought is always, though, that why would we even see it? | ||
| They could come as clouds. | ||
| You don't think they're going to be able to disguise themselves as a fucking tree or just not be visible at all? | ||
| Be around us right now? | ||
| And that is the same allegory I sometimes like to use is if you have some patio lighting out on your patio and you have a cat, and that cat likes to go outside on the patio every night and You know, look up to the sky or look up to the patio lights, sees the lights, and the cat might think, yeah, this is very pretty, it's beautiful, but that cat has no concept of what goes into those patio lights, that there's electricity, plastic, wiring, all these different things. | ||
| Which means that that is exactly the concept of extraterrestrials as well, that they can conceivably show up as some type of shapeshifters or something, and not just into people, but into objects or something, because they would use... | ||
| Exactly the same what we use today, and that's technology. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But there's something involved where, you know, just because we can't figure it out doesn't mean it does not exist. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I always say, I always bring up what I call the fart theory when it comes to... | ||
| To aliens. | ||
| And my theory is that, the idea is that if you couldn't smell, if you didn't have a sense of smell, you would have no idea that farts existed. | ||
| You had no idea that you were just sitting in someone's ass gas, right? | ||
| You would have no clue. | ||
| But because you have a sense of smell, this invisible thing all of a sudden becomes a reality. | ||
| How do we not know there aren't a million different senses, a million different things that are around us all the time that we just can't tune into? | ||
| And all some alien has to do is tune into something that's outside of our spectrum. | ||
| Tune into something that's not within our natural ability to perceive. | ||
| I mean, our natural ability to perceive is very Similar to the people that lived 10,000 years ago and were throwing fucking, you know, pointed sticks at moving animals. | ||
| There's very, very little difference between us genetically now and then. | ||
| So how do we not know that the systems that we have in place are all in place for the natural world, all in place for, you know, you hear animals, you know, you see moving things, you know, you smell food, you know, they're all in place to keep us alive and keep us successful. | ||
| We could very well be developing new senses because of Wi-Fi and because of all these cellular signals and the way human beings... | ||
| How sick are you right now, buddy? | ||
| You want to go home? | ||
| Are you that sick that you want to go home? | ||
| I don't want you to get everybody else sick. | ||
| Colds. | ||
| Perfect example. | ||
| It's fucking some shit flying through the air in this room right now. | ||
| This guy's sick. | ||
| And he's got some germs inside of his body. | ||
| There's some shit that you can't see unless you get a microscope. | ||
| And they're little invading animals. | ||
| They're trying to take over and kill him. | ||
| So his army right now is at war. | ||
| There's so much shit out there. | ||
| There's so much shit out there that we can't wrap our heads around. | ||
| And it's happening right here at this table. | ||
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unidentified
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Right now. | |
| There's aliens watching us in this room. | ||
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How did you get into your field, and how did you get on Ancient Aliens? | |
| Well, for that, I really have to thank my grandma, because growing up, I traveled around the world with my parents, and they made sure that we would go to all those different museums and archaeological sites and things like that, and have guided tours by the resident archaeologist or the resident curator and stuff like that. | ||
| But then, whenever I would come back home, my grandma would say, all right, so you've just been taught about the contemporary ideas of these particular cultures, but let me show you that other ideas and theories exist as well. | ||
| So she would tell me about Atlantis. | ||
| She would tell me about, you know, the ancient astronaut theory and chariots of the gods and all those different viewpoints that have been proposed by others. | ||
| So for me... | ||
| These types of topics have been... | ||
| I've been exposed to those at a fairly young age. | ||
| I mean, this was all dinner table conversation, especially when my parents or my grandparents would visit. | ||
| But at the same time, my mom, she always used to say that... | ||
| Whenever we would have these discussions, she would say... | ||
| You know, I really think that all of this that we have today, it's been here before. | ||
| And I never knew what she meant. | ||
| And of course, you know, I was five, six, seven years old. | ||
| But today, I know exactly and I finally understand what she meant, that, you know, this is just a repetition of history. | ||
| How high was she when she said this? | ||
| Hey, I was too young, so I don't think... | ||
| You weren't sure? | ||
| Yes, no. | ||
| Mom's in there talking about ancient civilizations. | ||
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I don't think so. | |
| Not my mom. | ||
| No, she's lovely and all this. | ||
| My mom got high. | ||
| I'll tell you that right now. | ||
| And, you know, so the question, you know, so today, especially, you know, now that my parents are like, you know, For a long time, they were like, ah, you're wasting your time with this, yada, yada. | ||
| And now all I have to say is that, you know, I am here because of my parents and my grandparents, and so it was their fault that all this happened. | ||
| What year did Chariots of the Gods came out? | ||
| It came out, like, in the 60s? | ||
| Yeah, it was first published in German under the title Memories of the Future in 1968. And then it was a runaway success. | ||
| And the first English edition came out in 1970. And within, you know, eight months or so, six million copies had been sold. | ||
| I mean, it was an absolute phenomenon that they called denikitis. | ||
| And it was a huge success worldwide. | ||
| And here we are in 2011... | ||
| And Chariots of the Gods is still red. | ||
| Eric Von Daniken just turned 77 years old. | ||
| By the way, he says hello to the entire audience. | ||
| He's very happy and excited that I'm on the program, so he says hello. | ||
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unidentified
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Really? | |
| Yes, absolutely. | ||
| Is he listening? | ||
| So we're trying to get him on the program, too, here. | ||
| Oh, dude, bring him in, man. | ||
| We'll do it remotely or something. | ||
| Where does he live? | ||
| He lives in Switzerland. | ||
| I'll fucking fly out to Switzerland. | ||
| Alright, we'll definitely set something up. | ||
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How weird was it when you first met him? | |
| Was that kind of crazy? | ||
| Well, I would say it was weird the first time we actually hung out and had a conversation and stuff because I had gone to some of his lectures when I was in my early teens. | ||
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So you've been in the game forever. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, no, I mean, look, I started the magazine that I published. | ||
| You published Legendary Times magazines, right? | ||
| 1998. That's when you started? | ||
| Yeah, 1998. And Legendary Times is basically all about ancient civilizations. | ||
| Yes, and it's specifically geared towards ancient civilizations in respect to the ancient astronaut theory. | ||
| Suggesting or exploring the idea of whether or not extraterrestrials, flesh and blood extraterrestrials, visited Earth in the remote past. | ||
| And by that, I don't mean, you know, a hundred years ago, but we're talking five, six, seven, eight thousand years ago from today, Sumerians. | ||
| When you look at it, when you look at the Sumerian text and you look at von Daniken's work, what is your gut impression? | ||
| Would you, I don't think you, if you're not making a conclusion, Which way do you lean? | ||
| Do you lean 50% that they were here or 50% that maybe something else happened? | ||
| More than 50%? | ||
| Personally? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| 100% that they were here. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| What gives you the most hope or the most reason to believe this? | ||
| Well, because I sometimes liken it to when you're completing a puzzle. | ||
| It doesn't matter how big the puzzle is, but the more pieces you put together, the more pieces you fit into place, even when that puzzle is not yet completed, and we've all done puzzles as kids, it gets easier as you move along. | ||
| But you can stop somewhere three-quarters of the way And you can look at that puzzle and you know exactly what the picture looks like even though it's not yet complete and there's a couple of pieces missing. | ||
| So that is what the ancient astronaut theory to me is like. | ||
| That there are so many indications from all ancient cultures that the conclusion, in my opinion, is inescapable. | ||
| And I'm not just saying this because I'm pulling this out of my ass, but because there are stories and there are physical pieces of evidence that the only conclusion that we can draw, unless we go into the realm of the fantastical and the unlikely, Is that we have been visited by flesh and blood extraterrestrials in the past. | ||
| But what is, like, if you were going to try to convince somebody, what is the most compelling evidence in your opinion that, you know, you said there's evidence where you cannot draw any other conclusion. | ||
| What is the most compelling? | ||
| Well, you know, and this is where I truly enjoy and respect the work of many archaeologists around the world, because they are excavating different sites and different monuments, and they're truly breaking their backs for some fantastic research. | ||
| However, sometimes when you look at that researcher and some of the ideas that they present, there are some faults in logic there because they, for example, suggest that we have moved a block that's 1,500 metric tons heavy with a piece of string and some chicken bones. | ||
| And today, our cranes, they tap out at 1,350 tons. | ||
| So if we today... | ||
| How much difference is that weight-wise? | ||
| Oh, we're talking about 200 tons. | ||
| So 200 tons shy. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| That's what we can do today. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, it's heavier. | ||
| So you think that is the best proof? | ||
| Well, I mean, there's multiple. | ||
| I mean, that one block, for example, is at a city in Lebanon called Baalbek. | ||
| And we've all seen that amazing stone. | ||
| That's in Chariots of the God, the movie. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Incredible. | ||
| Yes, Heliopolis. | ||
| Beyond. | ||
| You've seen it, Eddie, right? | ||
| Beyond, right? | ||
| You can't even wrap your head around it. | ||
| You're like, this is nuts. | ||
| You can't move this. | ||
| Who moved this? | ||
| You got the photos of that? | ||
| Was it maybe just something that we're not thinking of? | ||
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Like it was underwater at one point? | |
| It made it easier to move rocks or anything like that? | ||
| No, it doesn't make it easier to move something that big. | ||
| What the possibilities are, there's two in my opinion. | ||
| There's his idea that we've been visited by ancient aliens. | ||
| And then there's the idea that civilization has been restarted several times, and that is that there's some sort of a cataclysmic event that's killed almost everybody except for a small amount of stragglers, and they regrouped and rebuilt and rethought things out, and that's one of the reasons why things come so quickly. | ||
| Technology is moving so fast, as your mom said, or it was your grandmother, whoever it was, that we are relearning. | ||
| We've done this before. | ||
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unidentified
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That is possible, right? | |
| And it can also be a combination of both. | ||
| You see, that's the thing, that there are... | ||
| Can I see that picture? | ||
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unidentified
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Of course. | |
| This is the one... | ||
| This is the... | ||
| This is Baalbek? | ||
| Yes, this is the Baalbek. | ||
| It's called the Stone of the Pregnant Woman. | ||
| And it's one of the biggest monoliths that has ever been seen on planet Earth. | ||
| And, you know, to me, right there, we could not move this with our modern-day cranes. | ||
| And so, you know, something happened in all of these ancient sites. | ||
| Because, you know, we know, there's absolutely no question in my mind that our ancestors, I mean, they were extremely smart. | ||
| They were ingenious. | ||
| And obviously, did they know how to cut stones and how to transport them and things like that. | ||
| However, I'm not really interested in moving around stones that are cut from limestone or from sandstone and things like this. | ||
| But what I'm interested in is stuff like this, where it was cut out of granite. | ||
| We're out of diorite, where still today we use diamond-tipped saws in order to cut any of these blocks that we cut today. | ||
| And allegedly our ancestors did this with copper tools. | ||
| And I'm sorry, somewhere the logic just fails. | ||
| The logic certainly fails that that technology that we attribute to those people... | ||
| Because we have to put them in the Bronze Age and the Copper Age. | ||
| We can't put them in the Age of Steel. | ||
| But to me, the logic is much more likely that we're wrong about the Age of Bronze and the Age of Steel and that people had figured out diamond-tipped tools. | ||
| Didn't they find markings inside the sarcophagus in the King's Chamber of the Great Pyramid of Giza that they believe were attributed only to diamond-headed drill? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| And in Egypt, we have a very fascinating site called Abydos. | ||
| And in Abydos, you have a... | ||
| Sorry, in Abuzir, not in Abydos. | ||
| Abydos is where they have those weird hieroglyphics. | ||
| But in Abuzir, you have what's known as signatures of core drills. | ||
| And a cord drill is basically, if you imagine a steel tube tipped with diamonds that drills itself into the ground or into the rock, and then you break it free, you take out that tube, and inside of it you have like a pipe of that, a cord drill sample of that particular rock. | ||
| Now in Abuzir we find multiple stones where we can see a signature of these types of machining that took place there. | ||
| Now, a lot of people have said, oh, well, these are all modern-day occurrences, and it was done when the first modern-day cord drill machine was invented in the early 1920s. | ||
| Now, when you look at the book that Sir Flinders Petrie wrote, that book was written in 1906, And it already had drawings of those cordial holes in them, which proves that these cordial holes that we can find at Abuzir are not modern-day creations. | ||
| And that is absolutely crazy, because Christopher Dunn, one of my colleagues, Who wrote the Giza Power Plant, he proved, because he's a machinist, I mean, he's an engineer, and he knows this stuff, like the back of his hand. | ||
| So it's not like, you know, somebody walked along and said, this is how it is, but this guy, that's what he does for a living. | ||
| He builds machines and he, you know, precision mechanisms and things like this, so he is trained for that kind of, you know, investigation. | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| And he said that there is no way that this could have been done with copper tools. | ||
| I mean, it's just impossible. | ||
| And so, you know, there's some just wild, wild pieces of evidence that we have out there, like in Puma Punku, for example. | ||
| In the Bolivian highlands, at an altitude of 12,500 feet, there is this magnificent place called Tiwanaku that every day hundreds of tourists arrive there and they look at it, they take pictures, and then they leave as clueless as they arrived. | ||
| And about 150-200 yards away from Tionaku, there's another site that's very much lesser known called Pumapunku. | ||
| And at Puma Punku, everything defies, logic is defied at Puma Punku because the blocks of stone that we have there are pure diorite, andesite, and granite. | ||
| And they are so perfect that we today would have a hard time recreating some of these blocks. | ||
| And I actually spoke to a real-life stonemason, his name is Roger Hopkins, and he looked at some of these pictures that I showed him of Puma Punku, and he said that not for any amount of money or for any amount of time would he volunteer to try to replicate some of these rocks, some of these blocks. | ||
| And if a real-life stonemason says this, I mean, God bless the professors and the archaeologists, but I'd rather listen to someone who cuts stone for a living than someone who stands before a blackboard. | ||
| But this guy who cuts stone for a living, what he said was that it could be done. | ||
| He said it would be really hard, and he wouldn't want to do it for any amount of money, but that it could be done. | ||
| Yes, but only with modern stuff. | ||
| Yes, and not with chicken bones. | ||
| If we know that, if we know that it could be done with modern technology, wouldn't it be more likely that modern technology is sort of a recreation of what people did learn in the past, and that they probably were wiped out by some sort of a cataclysmic disaster? | ||
| That, to me, seems way more likely than... | ||
| Aliens came and moved rocks. | ||
| You're saying if it would be really, really difficult for people to do it today. | ||
| Well, there's a lot of stuff that would be incredibly difficult for people to do today. | ||
| I'm not necessarily suggesting that aliens move to rocks. | ||
| What I'm saying is that the aliens that visited Earth gave the technology or taught the technology to humans because what they wanted to do is to leave behind messages that they were here in the past. | ||
| So all those incredible monuments that we have today, like the pyramids of Giza or Stonehenge or Pumapunku, for example, or Newgrange, all these magnificent sites in Cusco, Machu Picchu in Peru, that all those places are messages for a future generation that all those places are messages for a future generation to understand that something way different happened in our past. | ||
| That is the main reason why, for example, we have religions today today and things like this. | ||
| So you think that pretty much all science emanates from some sort of an alien contact? | ||
| Is that what you think? | ||
| No, because modern day... | ||
| Because there's a trace of modern day science. | ||
| You can follow... | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Right, now let's think about this. | ||
| What age do you think people had technology that sort of any fucking nut that crashed and, you know, the TV show Lost crashed on an island and you could recreate? | ||
| What was that? | ||
| Like, maybe 2,000, 3,000 years ago? | ||
| No, 4,000, 5,000? | ||
| Yeah, something like that. | ||
| So, like, 5,000, 6,000 years ago, they were basically living like savages, right? | ||
| Supposedly? | ||
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Supposedly. | |
| Clearly supposedly. | ||
| Supposedly, yes. | ||
| If you follow... | ||
| Let's give them 10,000. | ||
| No, even earlier. | ||
| I mean, look... | ||
| My point was that if in 10,000 years' time people have gone from being cave-dwelling savages that were throwing pointy sticks at moving animals to... | ||
| People with cell phones and the internet and wireless, and this is all created, you know, inarguably by human beings. | ||
| There's a record of all these inventions and all these creations. | ||
| If this has been achieved over 10,000 years, what's to say that there wasn't some sort of a massive disaster that happened at the end of the last ice age or somewhere in there 20,000 years ago, date it, 15,000, whatever the fuck it is, and that... | ||
| Technology died, and that civilization died, and it had to be reinvented by the surviving humans basically from scratch. | ||
| And that even though human beings had been around for a long, long, long time before that, and civilization had evolved to an incredibly high level, all that information was lost. | ||
| That, to me, is way more likely than aliens. | ||
| Well, but see, here's the thing. | ||
| This is where the difference lies. | ||
| When, let's say, the Sumerian culture sprung out of virtually nothing, and it happened virtually overnight, The Sumerians were very clear in stating that they got their start in civilization by what they referred to as the Anunnaki. | ||
| And the Anunnaki translated into English means those who from the heaven came. | ||
| Yes, exactly. | ||
| But isn't that true that that's only by... | ||
| I mean, Zechariah Sitchin is pretty much the main scholar of the Sumerian text of Belize. | ||
| There's a lot of other scholars that do not agree with it. | ||
| Oh, absolutely. | ||
| But the translation, even a quote-unquote mainstream scientist or sumerologist will say that Anunnaki means that. | ||
| I mean, that is not, for example, Sikirai. | ||
| There are quite a few things that he translated, you know, quote-unquote himself. | ||
| So that's definitely a valid point, but the great majority of what he's talking about has been translated correctly, and he has used many of the most accessible and correct translations that can be found today. | ||
| But even in the epic of Gilgamesh, don't they refer to a long-gone superior civilization that existed before them? | ||
| Yes, but that civilization always lived, quote-unquote, somewhere else and in the great dark void. | ||
| Now, what's the great dark void? | ||
| That's a beautiful... | ||
| Pasadena. | ||
| I like that. | ||
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I like it, too. | |
| It's a poetic way of saying... | ||
| Compton. | ||
| That would have been better. | ||
| Compton would have been better for the great dark void. | ||
| Shit, I fucked up. | ||
| Yeah, maybe it is. | ||
| But, you know, you follow me? | ||
| What I'm saying is that, like, you know, I firmly believe that there's life out there. | ||
| I mean, I think the possibility is, you know, the numbers, you know, and I think it's also very possible that it's reached us. | ||
| But I think if you look at what's more likely, if we absolutely know that people can build immense structures, if we absolutely know that civilization, most likely, because of all these historical... | ||
| You know, depictions of natural disasters, whether it's the epic of Gilgamesh or Noah's Ark or a hundred different cultures that have stories of apocalyptic disasters. | ||
| And the volatile nature of the earth itself, the fact that we know it's covered in craters, the fact that we know that every planet, we look at the moon, we just see craters all over the place. | ||
| We know about the shifting of the polar ice caps. | ||
| We know about Pangea. | ||
| We know that there was intelligent life, probably, in some sort of a monkey form when Pangea was around, right? | ||
| Yes, no, absolutely. | ||
| Pangaea being, for people who don't know, the whole entire world is one continent. | ||
| That's a theory. | ||
| And it's drifted apart. | ||
| I just think that if we know for a fact that human beings are capable now of doing spectacular things, and we have said already that if we existed 100 years more, man, imagine what we would know. | ||
| Just imagine what has sprung out over the last 100, 300 years. | ||
| You know, and I think you add a few hundred years to that or a thousand years to that, it's not unreasonable, in my opinion, to think that 10,000 years ago there was some sort of an event, some sort of a catastrophic, maybe it's 15,000, whatever the fuck you name it, a catastrophic event that fucked this world sideways and killed almost everybody. | ||
| To me, that is just way more likely than these people got it from some higher intelligence. | ||
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Well, he's saying both of it. | |
| It's a combo of both. | ||
| Could be. | ||
| And how many different ancient civilizations tell the people where they got their knowledge? | ||
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It's not just the Samaritans. | |
| They're all telling you there's incredible monuments that puzzle us today. | ||
| We're telling you that dudes from the heavens came down and showed us, but no one's believing it. | ||
| We're also telling you that a guy died and came back to Earth three days later and turned water into wine. | ||
| No, but these are structures that actually you can see and there are scientists baffled by them. | ||
| What structures do you mean? | ||
| What structures? | ||
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The stuff in South America, the Mayans. | |
| All the ancient Sumerian... | ||
| Well, yeah, but the Mayans, you know, their shit is totally different. | ||
| I mean, they believe that a fucking plume snake created the universe, you know? | ||
| Yeah, but hold on a second now. | ||
| That's exactly what I'm talking about. | ||
| What is behind this story of the plume snake? | ||
| Mushrooms like a motherfucker. | ||
| In the jungle, hanging out, banging hot Mayan chicks, chilling. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I mean, that's definitely an idea and a possibility. | ||
| Playing football with human heads. | ||
| But I'm trying to figure out what are the realities behind those stories. | ||
| I certainly think it's a possibility. | ||
| I'm not ruling out that possibility. | ||
| Oh no, of course not. | ||
| But, you know, it is definitely a combination because the bottom line is that all these ancient cultures are very adamant and very specific in saying... | ||
| That this all happened because of a visit from beings from the stars. | ||
| I mean, the star thing is very prevalent. | ||
| If it were a previous civilization, or if it were, let's say, human beings, because sometimes people say, well, how come you're not talking about that maybe it's our civilization from the future that traveled into the past to help us with certain developments? | ||
| Well, that can't be true, because nowhere in the ancient texts do we find any reference where it says, well, we're just like you, but we're from the future. | ||
| Maybe it's just future bullshit artists. | ||
| That's what those little gray dudes are. | ||
| They're just completely full of shit. | ||
| They're us from the future, but they fuck with us the same way we fuck with monkeys. | ||
| Like, yeah, if you get in the cage, I'll give you a banana. | ||
| And the monkey gets in the cage, and you just steal him, take him to the zoo. | ||
| And you give him that banana, and he's like, what the fuck? | ||
| The crazy thing about Zachariah Sitch, when people question his translations, are the things that he got right in the 70s, that we're finding out just today, in like 2001, 2002, that in the stories that he's talking about, he's saying, in a nutshell, That this hyper-advanced race created us as slaves to mine gold because they needed gold dust particles to suspend their atmosphere to protect their planet. | ||
| Well, we just discovered in the 2000s that, hey, you actually do protect atmospheres by suspending metallic products. | ||
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How the hell did an archaeologist know some astrophysics? | |
| In the 70s. | ||
| That's an intense shit. | ||
| Yeah, well, it is possible that they were really sophisticated 7,000, 8,000 years ago, and they knew that we were eventually going to run into the same problems again. | ||
| I mean, maybe they were burning shit back then that was eating up the ozone layer. | ||
| Maybe they were fucking with chemicals back then, just like we are now. | ||
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So that would mean they were super smart. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| They're telling you, specifically. | ||
| The reason why they... | ||
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How it happened. | |
| Yes. | ||
| Yeah, well, they figured it out, just like we figured it out. | ||
| Just like we figured it out now, and they figured it out then. | ||
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No, but they're telling you how they figured it out. | |
| They're saying they got it from the Anunnaki. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| But again, I don't know enough about language to argue against or for Sitchin, but I know that he's a rogue scholar. | ||
| He's not the only one, though. | ||
| I mean, or the Anunnaki or the Sumerian stories are not the only stories that we find concise pieces of evidence. | ||
| The Dogons, right? | ||
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Yes. | |
| I mean, They have completely such detailed astronomical knowledge which was not corroborated until the early 1960s, and there's still people that say, oh, this is a complete hoax, when it really isn't. | ||
| I mean, they knew about invisible stars that were then later truly corroborated by NASA and other astrophysicists. | ||
| I mean, how... | ||
| How on earth would they know something like this? | ||
| And Dogon give you the answers. | ||
| That they were visited by somebody that descended from the sky. | ||
| And then who are we to say that these people are lying or that they made up fantasy stories? | ||
| Because that, to me, is the insult, right? | ||
| When people say... | ||
| I'll insult the fuck out of some old tribes. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| No, no, no. | ||
| Goofy fucks worshiping snakes. | ||
| No, I'm just referring to, you know, because people, you know, archaeologists may, or debunkers, are saying, well, you know, you guys attribute everything to alien intervention, and, you know, you undermine human ingenuity. | ||
| You're suggesting that, you know, our ancestors were stupid. | ||
| And nothing could be further from the truth, because obviously nothing happened in our brain development in the last 50,000 years. | ||
| If you bring back someone from... | ||
| Ten thousand years ago to today, you can teach that person how to drive a car. | ||
| You can teach that person even to fly a plane. | ||
| No problem, because intellectually speaking, they're as capable as we are today. | ||
| However... | ||
| There was one huge difference, and that is their technological frame of reference was different or smaller than what we have today. | ||
| So when we have stories of flying shields or dragons or smoking snakes and plumesnakes and things like that, then my question is, well, what was it exactly that our ancestors tried to describe with their vocabulary? | ||
| Because they didn't have... | ||
| The vocabulary for rocket or for, you know, so they had to liken a rocket to a blazing oven or something like this, or, you know, a gleaming bronze monster and things like that. | ||
| So therein lies the big difference. | ||
| And so when archaeologists then say, Well, you know, you're saying that I undermine human ingenuity from the past. | ||
| It's like, no, I'm really not, because I am reading to you exactly that these same people said that they received their knowledge from these humanoid beings that descended from the sky. | ||
| So you think that that's the most compelling piece of evidence to you, is human beings' depictions of what was going on, like the Vimanas or, you know... | ||
| No. | ||
| I mean, that is definitely... | ||
| See, and that's the great thing about the ancient alien theory, that you can, you know, it's such an interdisciplinary field of research that, you know, you can look at ancient Egypt and you can look at South America and draw correlations. | ||
| I mean, they found, you know, crazy correlations between those two cultures, for example, where they found cocaine in mummies and things like that, where cocaine was only, you know, available in one country... | ||
| And so something definitely happened that there was trade between all continents, and personally, I suggest that trade didn't necessarily happen on water, but that they actually had... | ||
| Because that is what the ancient texts are saying. | ||
| Not only in India with the Vimanas, but also in the Hebrew and in the Ethiopian cultures, you have the story of King Solomon and his flying carpet and his flying machine. | ||
| Didn't your show take an artifact and recreate it? | ||
| Explain that. | ||
| Tell me about what happened there. | ||
| Well, where was the artifact from? | ||
| It's from South America, from Colombia, and it's a gold funerary object. | ||
| It's a totem that hundreds, I'm sorry, thousands and thousands of those little artifacts have been found, and they were usually shaped in the form of frogs and insects and fish and crocodiles and things like that. | ||
| However, out of those thousands of funerary objects that have been found, About eight were found worldwide that looked like modern-day airplanes. | ||
| And so these two engineers, one doctor and one engineer, in Germany, what they did is, in the mid-90s, in 1996, they took one of those little funerary objects and they blew it up To ratio and to size without adding an inch or subtracting an inch. | ||
| I mean, they just basically blew it up to about three to four feet long. | ||
| It looks exactly like the old one. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And they put a propeller inside, and they tried multiple objects. | ||
| I mean, they didn't just do one that they thought, well, this one looks most likely like a plane, so let's just do this one. | ||
| No, they took a whole bunch of them, and they recreated them as model planes. | ||
| They threw them up in the air, and they were 100% aerodynamically sound. | ||
| They were able to do rolls and loops and stuff like that. | ||
| I mean, they were 100% airplanes. | ||
| And even to the untrained eye... | ||
| They look like planes. | ||
| Unquestionably. | ||
| Because here's the thing. | ||
| What do they say about this? | ||
| They say that these are also fish or insects. | ||
| You look at that. | ||
| That's an airplane. | ||
| First of all, it's got a delta shape and a fuselage. | ||
| And then you have the stabilizers in the back. | ||
| And you've got an upright rudder. | ||
| And no... | ||
| Living creature in nature, it does not exist. | ||
| Plus, the wing formation is a low wing formation where the wings are attached to the bottom of the fuselage or the body. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And we have our wings or arms attached like the birds on the shoulder girdle. | ||
| And that formation that we can find in the Colombian artifact doesn't suggest this. | ||
| And how old is that artifact? | ||
| 1,500 to 1,600 years old. | ||
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| Yeah, so, Tolimar region in Colombia, and pre-Columbian artifact, and it's, you know, so those are all those little things that, you know, all fit together somehow. | ||
| And in my opinion, they had something to do with flesh and blood aliens who visited in the remote past. | ||
| It's so weird that our history is so incomplete. | ||
| That's why we're having this debate. | ||
| The reason why we're having this debate is because, you know, the history is so sketchy. | ||
| When you get just a few thousand years ago, it's like, oh, fuck knows, man. | ||
| And it doesn't help when you get these conventional archaeologists that are so fucking set in their ways, man. | ||
| This Robert Shock, John Anthony West thing that's going on in Egypt pertaining to the dating of the Sphinx. | ||
| I find their research fascinating. | ||
| What I find more fascinating is how these mainstream Egyptologists just poo-poo it. | ||
| Like, oh, where's the evidence of this culture? | ||
| The argument they had was so childish. | ||
| It was so egotistical. | ||
| The guy was standing up going, you know, you're talking about the Sphinx predating 9,000 B.C. Where's the evidence of this culture that's willing to... | ||
| Where's the evidence? | ||
| What the fuck do you think is going to be there, sir? | ||
| What do you think is going to be there after 11,000 years? | ||
| You're talking 9,000 BC. How much is going to be left, man? | ||
| I'll tell you what's going to be left. | ||
| Rocks. | ||
| And there's your evidence. | ||
| Geological rocks that are so fucked up by water that it has to be thousands of years of rainfall. | ||
| You know, that is unanimous. | ||
| When geologists look at the Sphinx enclosure and they... | ||
| And they show photographs of the water, the water erosion of the fissures. | ||
| They're 100% agreed that it's water erosion due to thousands of years of rainfall. | ||
| By the way, rainfall too, not just flooding, not like one crazy flood, no, thousands of years. | ||
| So that just shows you it has to be older than 9,000 B.C. because that was the last time there was flooding or there was a rainforest in the Nile Valley. | ||
| No, and the crazy thing is also that their research is corroborated by other research as well. | ||
| When my colleague Robert Boval came out with the Orion mystery, and when he suggested that if you look at the three great pyramids at Giza from a bird's eye perspective, you see that the three are, you know, sort of lined up, but not completely. | ||
| They're not in a straight line, that the smallest pyramid is a bit off. | ||
| And he's like, well, that's really strange, so what's going on here? | ||
| And then he determined that these three pyramids are, in fact, built to the exact ratio of Orion's, the three stars in Orion's belt. | ||
| I had heard, though, that the only way you could see the three stars from that angle, you would have to look at everything upside down from, like... | ||
| That it doesn't actually work that way. | ||
| That it was disproven. | ||
| That you can see it that way, but not from Earth. | ||
| Not from the way we look at it. | ||
| You would have to reverse everything. | ||
| Is that true? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I mean, look, the general idea still holds. | ||
| Even though the upside-down theory is possibly correct, I'm not sure of that, to be honest with you. | ||
| I'm not sure of it either. | ||
| I watched a video, I think. | ||
| However, what he did determine is the fact that the time, if you were to put three floodlights on top of each tip of the pyramid and fire it straight into the sky, you know, like at the Luxor in Las Vegas, the big beam, the time when the three tips of the big beam, the time when the three tips of those pyramids would line up exactly with Orion's belt, and you have software for this where you can, you know, rewind back the night sky on the computer these days. | ||
| It would be in 12,500 years ago, which Boval labeled or is known in Egyptology as the Golden Age, when the gods still walked amongst men. | ||
| And so the fact that the Sphinx also dates to 9,000 BC, well, that's the Golden Age that everybody talks about in Egypt. | ||
| Really, 9,000 BC, thousands of years earlier, it has to exist because of the thousands of years of rainfall. | ||
| So you are talking maybe 10,500 BC, maybe 11 or more. | ||
| So the fact is that... | ||
| And there are ancient texts that talk about these previous cultures or these previous periods of other kings that lived in the Egyptian region. | ||
| But they're considered to be fantasy stories by archaeologists. | ||
| Right, even the pictures of the pharaohs of like 34,000 years ago, aren't there? | ||
| I mean, I believe John Anthony West has stated that it goes back almost 30,000 or more years. | ||
| There is a king's list out there, and everybody can go Google this tonight. | ||
| It's called WB44. And that king's list absolutely will boggle your mind because it basically lists... | ||
| A combined age of kings that ruled for a half a million years before our culture. | ||
| Now, you know, it's absolutely crazy. | ||
| And that is a list that can be found at the British Museum in England, in London. | ||
| Where's it from? | ||
| It's from Sumeria. | ||
| And it's WB-44. | ||
| And it lists for how long? | ||
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How old? | |
| For hundreds of thousands of years. | ||
| And some of these kings, it says, have reigned for 16,000 years, for 48,000 years. | ||
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One king. | |
| One king. | ||
| And then the question is, well, how is this even possible? | ||
| They got all that Aubrey the Grey type shit. | ||
| They were working that back then, man. | ||
| Or are we talking about time dilation? | ||
| Time dilation? | ||
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What do you mean? | |
| Where if you travel at close to the speed of light, if on your spaceship five years pass, and you travel at 99.9% of the speed of light, 5,000 years pass here on Earth. | ||
| And that's just the theory of relativity, which is, you know, and it takes time dilation into account. | ||
| I mean, like anyone that flies a lot, those people are actually... | ||
| Aging slower than the rest of us. | ||
| So the more you are in motion, the slower you age. | ||
| And so this is a mathematically viable and proven theory that if you travel close, which of course we are not capable of doing yet, but just because we human beings can't do it doesn't mean it does not exist. | ||
| And that's the big, you know, argument. | ||
| So this dude would, like, come down here, fuck with some shit, and go, yeah, I'll be right back. | ||
| And then he comes back, like, 16,000 years, because to him it's only a year. | ||
| Yep, exactly. | ||
| But he goes at the speed of light or whatever the hell he goes, and he comes back. | ||
| Yes, and it sounds like science fiction. | ||
| But who says that that is not possible? | ||
| That is an interesting way to stay valid. | ||
| You just say, listen, bitch, I am coming back. | ||
| And then you actually do come back? | ||
| And those are the stories that we find that these quote-unquote gods, which, by the way, they never existed. | ||
| It's all lowercase g. | ||
| There is no such thing as gods. | ||
| I mean, it's completely... | ||
| It was a complete misunderstanding, a misinterpretation of our ancestors who didn't understand the nuts and bolts technologies behind these visits, and so they started to worship these people. | ||
| And those visitors knew exactly... | ||
| That they were being worshipped because, you know, it would be the same thing that if we arrive on a planet one day in the future, 5,000 or whatever years from now, and we find a quote-unquote intelligent species but they're a bit primitive, yeah, well, you know, we'll push them a little bit in the right direction, show them how to complete agriculture and medicine and architecture and all those things. | ||
| And then, we'll just say, okay, we're going to disappear again. | ||
| Well, guess what? | ||
| Our once real visit will turn into, will enter the realm of mythology a thousand or two thousand years after our visit. | ||
| And so, one day, all of us, all human beings, will become ancient astronauts. | ||
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I have a question. | |
| You're a master of ancient cultures. | ||
| Most ancient cultures have some kind of 2012 warning or signify the end of some age. | ||
| What do you think? | ||
| I really need you to pay attention to this because I think that the biggest threat that we face on December 22nd, 2012 is the massive hangover. | ||
| That will all be suffering, so... | ||
| That's about it. | ||
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Look, because... | |
| And there's a lot of 2012 stuff with Zachariah Sitchin. | ||
| Of course, of course. | ||
| And so, you know, here's the thing that... | ||
| What did Zachariah Sitchin think of 2012? | ||
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Nibiru was gonna, you know... | |
| Even though... | ||
| That's like a year away. | ||
| Wouldn't we be able to see it? | ||
| Yeah, look, here's the thing that, you know, the whole 2012 thing, in my opinion, is nothing else but a complete... | ||
| It's mass hysteria. | ||
| You think, though? | ||
| Absolutely, because... | ||
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But not to Zacharias Sitchin, though. | |
| Yeah, well, even he, right before, or a year before he died, he rephrased his theory by saying that if at all Nibiru were to return, it's going to be around 2036 or 2038 or something like that. | ||
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Damn, he changed it! | |
| Absolutely, yes. | ||
| But, you know, that's neither here nor there because the bottom line is that the big problem with 2012 is the fact that it's not even 2011 right now. | ||
| That's what nobody talks about, that, you know, we, our calendar... | ||
| It's wrong, because there's a couple of arguments that you can make, and that is, you know, if you look at our quote-unquote history, we went from 1 BC to 1 AD without a year zero, which means that we are already at least by one year off, so it's either 2012 already or it's still 2010. And then, you know, we don't know whether or not our calendar... | ||
| We also know that Jesus was not born in the year zero, but scholars, and I'm talking theological scholars now, have determined that Jesus was born between 5 and 3 A.D. So, right there... | ||
| So, right there, we've got another five years, considering the fact that we're being told that our calendar began ticking on the day of Jesus' birth. | ||
| So, long story short, the third argument is also that it is now Berkeley scholars and scholars at a university in Rome Have determined that in the Middle Ages, when the monks were in charge of recording our dates and everything like that, that they also made a mistake up to five years. | ||
| So, the interesting thing is that, to make a long story short, that we could be as far off as ten years with our current date. | ||
| And if you take into consideration when... | ||
| Did our calendar really start ticking? | ||
| Was it at the time when Jesus died? | ||
| Or was it at the time when he was nailed to the cross? | ||
| Who knows these things? | ||
| Some have suggested that we're off by 200 years. | ||
| And these are not people that just pulled this stuff out of their butts, but they're scholars at universities who have studied this stuff. | ||
| And so the bottom line is that the whole 2020 2012, it's nothing else but complete hysteria and nothing, let me repeat, absolutely nothing will happen next year. | ||
| Dude, you've got to talk to Daniel Pinchback because he's written books and he doesn't agree with you. | ||
| That's fine. | ||
| He thinks Quetzalcoatl is coming. | ||
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And God bless him and Quetzalcoatl will not come. | |
| Now, didn't they predict... | ||
| And by the way, Quetzalcoatl was an extraterrestrial spaceship. | ||
| You think so? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Didn't they predict that the Mayans accurately predicted the sonar looter eclipses in the future? | ||
| So, if they predicted that, how is it possible that we say they predicted it right? | ||
| We must be following their timeline. | ||
| If we're following their timeline, then... | ||
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It must be 2012. Oh no, absolutely, you're right. | |
| But if our calendar from the very beginning is wrong, then we are basing our wrong calendar on their calculation. | ||
| Right, but if we're basing our wrong calendar on their calculations and it lines up with what we call 1919, what we call 2012, then shouldn't it be that they got the lunar eclipses right, so they got 2012 right? | ||
| No, they definitely have 2012 right. | ||
| And by the way, the only thing... | ||
| In their counting. | ||
| In their counting, but not ours. | ||
| Yes, exactly. | ||
| But how is their counting, like, line up exactly with ours when it comes to the prediction of solar and lunar eclipses, then? | ||
| Well, solar and lunar eclipses, it doesn't matter what you're in. | ||
| Right, but they accurately depicted the year that these solar and lunar eclipses were going to take place according to our calendar. | ||
| But we superimposed their counting onto ours. | ||
| Okay, so we tried to make it fit. | ||
| Yes, exactly. | ||
| So, you see, and here's the other thing that's... | ||
| It's tricky when you get two calendars too, right? | ||
| Like, one a completely different type of calendar than ours... | ||
| So there must be something happening on December 21st, 2012. That must signify at the end of the 13th Bakhtun? | ||
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What does that mean? | |
| The end of the long count. | ||
| And that is the exact thing. | ||
| The Mayans, not once, not once did they ever say that the world was going to end. | ||
| The only thing they said is that one period of time ends, and a new period of time begins. | ||
| So it could be that, you know, if you believe, some people believe that time has certain qualities to it, that there are times when things are easier and times when things are harder, and that this is literally like an ebb and flow like the tides, and that perhaps what the Mayans were predicting is just some new stage of humanity, some new stage of existence, some new stage of the earth and the universe, that things just keep flowing in this sort of a circular direction. | ||
| Well, yeah. | ||
| I mean, look, everything, as we know, is cyclical. | ||
| So that is definitely... | ||
| And they mastered the procession of the equinoxes. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And they had figured that out. | ||
| They had figured out a lot of cycles that were really complex. | ||
| But who taught them this? | ||
| And they're also very true. | ||
| Mushrooms, mushrooms, and a lot of free time. | ||
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And then also... | |
| So the aliens were dressed up as little mushroom mascots. | ||
| The aliens might be... | ||
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That's what it is. | |
| What do you say to people that say, well... | ||
| How do we know Jesus really even existed? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Isn't there like DVDs and stuff that... | |
| What was that DVD? The God that wasn't there. | ||
| The God that wasn't there. | ||
| Yeah, there's a lot of people that argue scientifically that he's not a real figure. | ||
| You know, I personally think that Jesus 100% was a historical figure. | ||
| Do you think he was an alien? | ||
| No. | ||
| No. | ||
| And neither was Buddha, and neither were any of the other quote-unquote prophets and saints. | ||
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What about just a regular astronaut? | |
| No. | ||
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No. | |
| No, I just think that, you know, Jesus, you know, was a historical figure, was able to move people, but that he was the Son of God, in my opinion, is nonsense, because we are all the sons and daughters of God. | ||
| We all have the divine within our hearts. | ||
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But what kind of proof, I mean, you've studied a lot of ancient cultures, obviously. | |
| Do you know of any proof that would... | ||
| That Jesus existed. | ||
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Exactly. | |
| Well, I mean, we have stories. | ||
| We have texts that have been written down at the time, like the Qumran texts, the Dead Sea Scrolls, and things like that. | ||
| So, I mean, obviously nobody took a picture, and, you know, there are some... | ||
| Well, the Qumran text is where you get real squirrely, because the Dead Sea Scrolls, that's where they trace it back to an ancient Sumerian word. | ||
| Christ is an ancient Sumerian word that means a mushroom covered in God's semen. | ||
| Well, interestingly enough, what's also fascinating and what many people don't know is that before Jesus, there were 15 other crucified, quote-unquote, saviors in human history. | ||
| And so it's all very bizarre that, you know, Christianity claims that he was the only one, which is completely... | ||
| Completely untrue. | ||
| Well, when you measure his story next to all these other stories, I mean, even Hercules. | ||
| Hercules and Jesus are pretty fucking close. | ||
| A lot of goddamn similarities. | ||
| You know, it's pretty obvious that we've always been looking for a savior. | ||
| We've always been looking for a one. | ||
| A one thing. | ||
| And you think that's just like some alpha male chimpanzee thing where you look for the alpha and you think somehow, you know, that at one point in time there was a super alpha... | ||
| And the super alpha had all the answers. | ||
| Is it just a myth to keep people going? | ||
| What is that? | ||
| What is the need for this super alpha? | ||
| Do you think that it signifies this alien intervention in human history? | ||
| Is that what you personally believe? | ||
| No, I just think that a lot of times people are not happy with their own thoughts. | ||
| That they need to... | ||
| But there's a theme. | ||
| And the theme is that at one point in time, there was a God. | ||
| The theme exists in all of them. | ||
| All of the different religions all talk about one point in time, there was a God. | ||
| And this God had all the answers, and this is the shit that he wrote down. | ||
| This is the shit that he told people. | ||
| Well, yes, but here's the thing that, you know, I mean, if you want to look at the Old Testament where we have a description of quote-unquote God, in the ancient Aslan opinion, whatever or whoever was described in the Old Testament, and this is exclusively referring to the Old Testament, it has nothing to do with the New Testament. | ||
| Like the Ezekiel shit. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| That whatever or whoever was described in the Old Testament, by all means, was not God. | ||
| That being or that humanoid creature that was here was misinterpreted or thought as God, as something divine, something spiritual, something more advanced, something magical. | ||
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But it was alien. | |
| It was 100%. | ||
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So it was Jesus. | |
| So Jesus was an alien. | ||
| No, I just said it has nothing to do with the New Testament. | ||
| No way. | ||
| Old Testament. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Old Testament, yes. | ||
| So God was an alien, and Jesus was just... | ||
| No, no. | ||
| See, it was not God. | ||
| That's the thing. | ||
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That's what you're saying. | |
| Our ancestors thought it was God. | ||
| Because, see, a lot of people say, well, does that mean you're an atheist? | ||
| Does that mean you don't believe in God? | ||
| And, you know, because a lot of debunkers, or actually creationists... | ||
| Are always using Albert Einstein as their best example, where they say, see, even Albert Einstein, he believes in God, so, you know, we must be right with our ideas. | ||
| Well, that is only half of the story, because when Albert Einstein was asked as a journalist, when a journalist asked Albert Einstein, do you believe in God? | ||
| What Einstein said, and anyone can go and look this up, is the fact that He replied by saying, Well, dear journalist, before I can answer your question, we have to define what your definition or your idea of God is. | ||
| And then the journalist said, Well, I believe in the Old Testament God and Creator. | ||
| And then Albert said, Well, if that is your definition of God, then I respectfully will tell you that I do not believe in God. | ||
| And then he's like, well then, so what are you talking about? | ||
| And Einstein then explained his definition, or his idea of God and the universe, and the order that we have in the universe amidst chaos, and he said, and if that is what, and this to me is my idea of God, that there's some order to the universe, because, you know, God does not throw dice. | ||
| That's one of his most famous quotes. | ||
| So, therein lies the difference that, yes, I do think that there is an all-encompassing force out there, but it's not a personal God. | ||
| It's not where, you know, I pray and then all of a sudden I'm praying for something to happen. | ||
| I mean, that to me is a waste of time, to be honest with you. | ||
| It's like, if you want something to happen, you've got to go out there and do it yourself, no matter what the odds are. | ||
| You do, but I think the reason why the idea of prayer exists is because people can manifest things with their own thoughts and staying positive and focusing on a goal and making things happen, to a certain extent. | ||
| But that, to me, is just thought. | ||
| The idea of prayer. | ||
| Prayer is just advanced thought. | ||
| Right, but the moment that... | ||
| See, therein, to me, that's where it gets a bit wacky, because the moment that you correlate your own powers, your own connection to the universe that you have, the moment that you connect that to a personal God and put everything that you have... | ||
| You basically deny all responsibility. | ||
| You say, okay, fine, God will take care of it. | ||
| That, to me, is such a cop-out attitude. | ||
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It's like, you know, why? | |
| No, be responsible for your own actions and don't rely... | ||
| No, I completely agree, but I think that that's where the idea of prayer came from, the reason why it exists to this day, because you can sort of make things happen if you focus on them for a long period of time, and people who have been successful at making things happen have, like, stepped back and said, look, you know, we made this happen by prayer. | ||
| We thought this through. | ||
| Get a cough jar, bro. | ||
| Open it up. | ||
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Don't be scared. | |
| You need one. | ||
| Stop coughing. | ||
| Poor little sicky. | ||
| Poor little sicky, Brian. | ||
| Now, um... | ||
| You've been doing this for a long time now. | ||
| You said in 1998 you started out your magazine. | ||
| How do you get approached to be doing this ancient alien show? | ||
| How does this happen? | ||
| Do they just seek out people with, you know, sort of fringe beliefs and people that are experts on these subjects? | ||
| No, it was actually a very funny story, and that was, if you remember, in 2008, that new Indiana Jones movie came out, Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, and it's kind of a disaster of a movie, in my opinion, but whatever. | ||
| They're making another one, can you believe it? | ||
| To redeem themselves, I hope. | ||
| I hope. | ||
| It can make it worse. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| It can't get worse. | ||
| Follow those guys. | ||
| It can't get worse. | ||
| They just don't seem to be making the same quality of movies. | ||
| Anyway, the great thing about the movie itself was the idea behind it was great, but the execution was horrid. | ||
| It was basically an ancient alien movie where he was chasing a crystal skull, and the crystal skull happened to be extraterrestrial origin, this and that. | ||
| So the History Channel made a two-hour documentary about Indiana Jones and the feasibility behind all the stuff that he chased down. | ||
| And so it was one segment about crystal skulls in which I appeared and talked about the possibility whether the Mitchell Hedges skull, for example... | ||
| The Mitchell Hedges skull is one of the most perfect, or actually the most perfect crystal skull. | ||
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How do you spell it? | |
| M-I-T-C-H-E-L-L-E. Hedges, H-E-D-G-E-S. Mitchell Hedges' skull. | ||
| And that skull was found in Belize by Mitchell Hedges' daughter on her birthday. | ||
| And it's this crystal clear... | ||
| It's a crystal that was found in the shape of a humanoid head. | ||
| I mean, it's massive. | ||
| It's really big. | ||
| If you go to MitchellHedges.com, they have a countdown to revelation. | ||
| Yeah, see, it's bloom and doom, once again. | ||
| I mean, it's just crazy. | ||
| It's a dope-looking skull. | ||
| And what did you say about this skull? | ||
| Some of them have been disproved, right? | ||
| Yes, and there's no question about it. | ||
| In fact, you know, with this one here, it's so magnificent where you can actually detach the jawbone from it, which means that it's from the same crystal, which means it had to be one big freaking rock out of which this whole thing was made. | ||
| And when was it found? | ||
| In the early 1900s. | ||
| And when Mitchell Hedges, or the actual caretaker, after Mitchell Hedges died and Anna took over or kept the skull, she and her, this other dude whose name escapes me right now, I think it's Dan Nisarino or something, they brought it in the 1960s to the labs up in the Bay Area of Hewlett-Packard. | ||
| And even in the day, of course, only the best scientists worked at these particular factories and labs. | ||
| And when the Hewlett-Packard scientists were Done with all their research, their conclusion was very simple. | ||
| And they said, and I quote, this skull should not exist. | ||
| And meaning that they did not find any tool marks, they did not find any polish, any evidence that this thing was polished or anything like that. | ||
| And even more crazy is the fact that each crystal, it grows in a particular axis. | ||
| In order to work crystal, you have to turn the crystal at high speeds in that direction of the axis. | ||
| And according to the Hewlett-Packard people, it was ground against its grain. | ||
| And that would shatter Every crystal that you would do this to, and the Mitchell Hedges skull, it still exists, and it shouldn't. | ||
| So it's a big mystery. | ||
| And yes, some crystal skulls have been determined that they are modern-day creations, but not the Mitchell Hedges skull. | ||
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Again, that could be another tool that we're not... | |
| they used to have back in the day that we're not thinking about, though, right? | ||
| Of course! | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| Yeah, sure. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| And so this is how you got hooked up with the History Channel. | ||
| And then they're like, we like this dude with crazy hair. | ||
| Let's bring him in. | ||
| What do you think about Nazis? | ||
| No, and then I got a call and I was asked, you know, had I heard of a book called Chariots of the Gods and Eric Von Danik? | ||
| And I said, of course. | ||
| You know, we publish a magazine together and this and that. | ||
| And here we are today. | ||
| I mean, it was just an idea to shoot a two-hour documentary 40 years after Chariots of the Gods. | ||
| I got in an argument with a journalist when I first came to Hollywood. | ||
| It wasn't really an argument. | ||
| It was a talk at one of these... | ||
| They had these... | ||
| It was Fox. | ||
| I was on Fox. | ||
| They had a party for a sitcom I was on. | ||
| And the guy said, Hey, can I ask you a couple of questions? | ||
| And he goes, Okay. | ||
| So he rattles off a bunch of questions. | ||
| And one of them was, do you believe in aliens? | ||
| And I think I said yeah. | ||
| And he said, why? | ||
| And I said, well, I saw this thing, Chariots of the Gods, and it's a pretty incredible movie, and I think it's more than possible. | ||
| There's a lot of stars out there. | ||
| And he started going off on how Chariots of the Gods was bullshit. | ||
| And he goes, oh, it's been completely debunked, and so I'm pretty calm about that kind of stuff. | ||
| I go, all right, well, how was it debunked? | ||
| And he had no answer. | ||
| And I said, but yet you're so convinced that it's debunked. | ||
| Well, I know I read that it had been debunked. | ||
| I go, but you don't remember what you read. | ||
| But yet, did you read Chariots of the Gods? | ||
| And he's like, no, I didn't read it. | ||
| But I mean, I know it's all about aliens, and aliens came and made these structures. | ||
| I'm like, wow, dude, you're pretty convinced. | ||
| But it was like, a sensible man doesn't believe such silly things. | ||
| And that is the whole attitude about aliens, about extraterrestrials, or even about ancient civilizations. | ||
| The sensible man doesn't buy into such nonsense. | ||
| And you must have had to deal with that your whole fucking life. | ||
| Oh no, absolutely. | ||
| And that's the thing. | ||
| And that's where you just go wacky with the hair and the jewelry and you're like, fuck it, bitch, I'm going deep. | ||
| Yeah, you know what I'm saying? | ||
| Going deep into the crazy hole. | ||
| I'm still the same guy from ten years ago. | ||
| You know, that's the thing. | ||
| It's like, to me, you know, especially the Chariots of the Gods argument that, you know, from Daniken has been debunked and things like that. | ||
| It's like, really? | ||
| I mean, have you looked at this stuff? | ||
| Because the bottom line is that Chariots of the Gods had over 200 question marks in it. | ||
| And it even had a freaking question mark in the fucking title. | ||
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Right. | |
| So, I mean, right there... | ||
| It was a question. | ||
| It is an idea. | ||
| It's raising questions. | ||
| And if those questions happen to be uncomfortable questions, you know what? | ||
| So be it. | ||
| Or if a couple of them are wrong, you're talking about a lot of goddamn questions in that book. | ||
| Well, here's the thing. | ||
| Let me ask you this. | ||
| When was the last time you saw a scientist or any author or whatever... | ||
| Give, you know, 30 years after their first publication and say, well, you know, on page so-and-so I made a mistake. | ||
| When Chariots of the Gods came out as the 35-year edition, the 35-year anniversary edition, Eric wrote a 16-page preface to the new edition, And in that, he pointed out exactly which mistakes he made in the 1960 or 1970 book, on what page, and on what happened here. | ||
| For example, one example is that... | ||
| The Iron Pillar in New Delhi. | ||
| For a long time, we thought that this might be something that is of extraterrestrial origin, or at least that extraterrestrials taught these metallurgists how to pour this pillar of iron, because up to that time, it didn't corrode, it didn't rust, and it had been around for... | ||
| Many, many years. | ||
| Hundreds and hundreds of years. | ||
| And guess what? | ||
| The thing is rusting today. | ||
| It's corroding. | ||
| So you know what? | ||
| That piece of evidence? | ||
| Out the window. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| Because the conclusion is that it... | ||
| In case a piece of evidence turns out to be wrong or false, if you eliminate that piece of evidence, it only makes the overall theory stronger because you eliminate false stuff. | ||
| So to suggest that just because there were a few mistakes in Chariots of the Gods, which Eric openly admitted to, that doesn't mean that the whole ancient alien theory all of a sudden becomes irrelevant. | ||
| On the contrary, it makes it more stronger. | ||
| And the fact... | ||
| That today, especially on the show Ancient Aliens... | ||
| I mean, by the way, tomorrow is the premiere of Season 3. I'm very excited about that. | ||
| What's going on? | ||
| Thursday night... | ||
| Can you preview us? | ||
| Can you tell us? | ||
| Give us some scoops? | ||
| Any Nazi stuff? | ||
| There is definitely stuff in there that has not been explored in the previous season. | ||
| The History Channel needs to combine Nazis, UFOs, and ghosts together. | ||
| And cowboys. | ||
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And monsters. | |
| One old fucking smash-em-up show. | ||
| And, you know, so... | ||
| I lost my train of thought. | ||
| The new season of the History Channel H&L special. | ||
| Especially now in Season 3, it's amazing how many university professors have come forward and agreed... | ||
| To be on a show called Ancient Fucking Aliens. | ||
| Are you kidding me? | ||
| The fact that university professors... | ||
| Because, as you know, you're in TV, you have to disclose what show you're calling from or what show you're going to be on. | ||
| You can't just, you know, put a question mark there. | ||
| So the fact that university professors are now coming forward, especially for Season 3... | ||
| To appear on that show, I mean, that speaks volumes. | ||
| I mean, it's huge that all of a sudden, you know, Eric Von Danik and Childress and I and Martel and Coppens, we're surrounded by people from MIT talking about ancient aliens. | ||
| And what are exactly these professors on about? | ||
| What is their subjects of expertise? | ||
| What are they testifying about? | ||
| Well, I mean, we, for example, in this episode that airs tomorrow, Aliens and the Old West, We have professors, not only do we have elders, Native American elders, who are talking about the idea of star people in the ancient American West, | ||
| but also there are professors that we've gotten from universities and curators of museums where they corroborate the stories about the star people. | ||
| Like how do they do that? | ||
| Well, because they have access to many recordings that were written down by previous... | ||
| in the Old West. | ||
| Things for the first time would be able to be recorded because in ancient Native American times, their traditions were brought from generation to generation... | ||
| Spoken words. | ||
| Spoken words, exactly. | ||
| And then when, you know... | ||
| White men came. | ||
| Yeah, I guess, unfortunately. | ||
| You know, the whole thing was recorded all of a sudden. | ||
| And so we have very old recordings talking about these star people that came, allegedly, a long time ago. | ||
| And so that is a huge, huge part of... | ||
| Of our theory that there are entire cultures, for example, Native Americans, that talk about the kachinas descending from the sky in Flying shields, and they were very adamant, because of course Native Americans, you know, believe in the spiritual realm, there's no question, but they're also very adamant to say that there are two worlds. | ||
| There is the spiritual realm, and then there is also the physical realm, and that the star people were part of the physical realm. | ||
| And here we are to say, oh, well, you know, they didn't know what they were talking about, because they were just all high. | ||
| They were getting that peyote. | ||
| Which, you know, I mean, of course, there is not one culture in the world that did not dabble in mind-altering drugs. | ||
| I mean, it's just a complete... | ||
| It's who we are as a people. | ||
| There is no question about that. | ||
| But at the same time, there were always these different levels that, yes, there's absolutely no doubt in my mind that the spiritual realm does exist. | ||
| But we also have a physical realm in which our ancestors said that somebody came In a physical form. | ||
| So you think that there's probably some sort of an advanced life or some sort of a different life in a non-material form as well? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Like there's some sort of a spiritual realm, a dimension or something? | ||
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| Of something, something else, some sort of intelligent life. | ||
| And then there's physical life as well. | ||
| And you know me, I'm the nuts and bolts alien guy, right? | ||
| But at the same time, I would be a fool. | ||
| To deny or to even suggest that an ethereal realm does not exist. | ||
| Because that would render our physical world completely useless, if that's all there is. | ||
| Because a lot of people are saying, well, you know, if you die, all that's going to happen is that, you know, they're going to basically just pull the plug from the computer hard drive and things like that. | ||
| And that's usually the argument that they give. | ||
| But the bottom line is, That's not necessarily true because if you keep your computer in a very safe place and you can leave it there unplugged for a million years, if you find a power source a million years down the road and you plug that computer back in, guess what? | ||
| Everything on that hard drive is still there. | ||
| So what if the hard drive is the soul? | ||
| And therefore, once we die, our soul goes with us. | ||
| That's who we are as an essence. | ||
| Yes, we will leave this body, but at the same time, energy does not die. | ||
| It goes on in some form. | ||
| So to suggest that after this life, it's all over, I cannot process that. | ||
| It makes no sense. | ||
| What do you think of Kurzweil and Ray Kurzweil's ideas of downloading human consciousness into intelligent computers and the idea of you will be able to duplicate yourself and live forever in some sort of cyber environment? | ||
| I think it's fascinating. | ||
| What happens with the spiritual version of you, if that takes place? | ||
| Well, maybe then that's where you live, inside that cyber world. | ||
| Zombies. | ||
| Yeah, no, but the thing is, you see, and that's why movies like The Matrix, the first one, was so wonderful, because those are all fantastic and interesting ideas, but to me, I'm a big subscriber to Reincarnation. | ||
| Why is that? | ||
| Because of energy not being able to die. | ||
| And I think our soul, our essence, is energy. | ||
| It's part of this all-encompassing force that to me is the universe or God. | ||
| And so... | ||
| You know, if you have... | ||
| If you look, for example, at the Daya Lama or a lot of Buddhists, you know, who believe in reincarnation or Hindus and things like that, they always talk about how you will get reincarnated here on planet Earth as another being or another animal or whatever. | ||
| But see, to me, that's all very limited thinking because while I do subscribe to reincarnation, there is no way, in my opinion, That we would only reincarnate here on Earth. | ||
| We can reincarnate throughout the entire universe. | ||
| And that is why some people, when they come back to Earth, they're considered maybe old souls, or they're more intuitive to everything that they might have been here before. | ||
| So you think there's one universal bank of souls for the entire universe, and that everybody has to dip into it, no matter what, you know, you're on planet fucking Sirius or whatever, you know, you all dip from the same souls, and so, like, you could die here and then re-emerge on planet, go fuck yourself in the middle of nowhere. | ||
| Yeah, and somehow, but somehow with the same quote-unquote instincts or knowledge, because there is something that's out there, it's called the eternal spirit. | ||
| And that is that we all consist of particles and elements, and every 60 days, our entire bodies are completely recycled, because, I mean, we're completely changing... | ||
| I think it's every seven years. | ||
| Oh, okay, well, whatever it is, it's the complete recycling of a body, which is absolutely mind-boggling. | ||
| Yeah, it's pretty crazy that it's seven years... | ||
| And we're being bombarded by this cosmic dust, and that is what we consist of. | ||
| And this one French philosopher, Jean Chiron, in his book called The Eternal Spirit, or The Eternal Particle, suggested that each time one of our particles in our body travels through the universe, no matter what it passes through, if it's a stone or some type of a being or something... | ||
| It records everything. | ||
| And so, you know, each and every particle contains the knowledge of the entire universe, and that's within us. | ||
| I mean, it's such... | ||
| I've heard that theory of things recording things by Rupert Sheldrake. | ||
| You know who he is? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| He has some sort of theory that things contain memory. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Houses, tables, chairs. | ||
| Everything. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Because we're all made of the same stuff. | ||
| And if these particles all record the same stuff, then we are all one. | ||
| See, if you take a piece of skin and you put it underneath the electron microscope and you go deeper and deeper and deeper and deeper, everything wobbles, everything vibrates, it's all exciting down there. | ||
| And, you know, that's just... | ||
| We are... | ||
| We consist of vibration. | ||
| It's all frequency. | ||
| It's all harmonics. | ||
| Now, you take a piece of this metal cup right here, which is considered to be inorganic or dead material, and you put a little piece under the same electron microscope, and you go deeper and deeper and deeper. | ||
| At the very, very core... | ||
| It's the exact same thing. | ||
| And I would challenge you for a hundred bucks to tell me which is which. | ||
| Nobody can tell the difference unless you know which... | ||
| At the subatomic level. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Which means we all exist of the same stuff. | ||
| Don't we all exist actually as nothing? | ||
| I mean, isn't like most of the universe nothing? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Most of the universe is mostly atoms, and most atoms are almost... | ||
| Entirely nothing. | ||
| And we consist of nothing, too, because while we can touch ourselves and touch other people and the sensation of touch and all this, it's all complete. | ||
| It's magnetism. | ||
| You should use that as a molester in a trial. | ||
| You know, grab some chick's ass and go, I touch nothing. | ||
| There's nothing to touch. | ||
| There's nothing there. | ||
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I have a question. | |
| A lot of the stuff you're saying, I agree with. | ||
| And a lot of the stuff they're saying... | ||
| Edgar Cayce, for instance, he believed in the Akashic Records, and he put himself under hypnosis, right? | ||
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Self-hypnosis, and then when he was under self-hypnosis, he became this brilliant, all-knowing man... | |
| And he had a third grade education. | ||
| And he said that all this information can be tapped into by anybody. | ||
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You just got to learn, like meditation is part of it. | |
| And that's why there's a big, you know, meditation is huge and yoga is huge. | ||
| Because once you master meditation, you actually can tap into the Akashic Records, which holds the answers to everything. | ||
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Were you an Edgar Cayce fan? | |
| Did you find him at all? | ||
| No, actually. | ||
| I really don't know much about him, but it is true that, you see, we only use about 5% of our entire brain power. | ||
| Is that really true? | ||
| I've heard that's been debunked. | ||
| Well, let's say it's 10%. | ||
| I don't even think that's true. | ||
| I think they've debunked it. | ||
| I think that was back when people were ignorant about the functions of different areas of the brain, and now they've attributed different areas of the brain to different functions. | ||
| I think the more they understand about the brain, the more they realize that's a misnomer. | ||
| Have you driven down to 405? | ||
| Yeah, I have. | ||
| Do you still believe we use more? | ||
| I'm not saying that these people are thinking well. | ||
| They even said like if you use more than 10% at the same time, you're just going to seizures and stuff like that. | ||
| I think that's all horseshit. | ||
| I think that's all been disproven. | ||
| I'm almost positive, yeah. | ||
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Well, go ahead and say what you were saying. | |
| Well, anyway, so the idea, let's operate under the assumption that, you know, we only use about 5% to 8% of our total brain power. | ||
| As one guy suggested, a philosopher, he said that the brain is the last untamed beast in the universe. | ||
| And that is true because every single thing that we see each day, every single thing that we hear, everything that we say, our brain records it. | ||
| Everything is there. | ||
| Everything is there permanently for eternity in our brains. | ||
| The only problem is... | ||
| We can't access the information. | ||
| And then, of course, there are people who are great at memorizing lines or memorizing texts or whatever, or have photographic memory. | ||
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Or autism, where they can remember everything. | |
| Well, you know, and also, you know, normally, quote-unquote, functioning people. | ||
| I mean, you know, it's amazing how, you know, some people have the, quote-unquote, gift to recall certain things and some people don't. | ||
| And that is where I think, you know, the last frontier lies, that we could conceivably, you know, access way more of our brain power and then you could move proverbial mountains. | ||
| The 10% of the brain is absolutely a myth. | ||
| Yeah, it's absolutely been proven. | ||
| It is actually a misinterpretation, a misquote of Albert Einstein, or the misinterpretation of the work of Pierre Florens in the 1800s. | ||
| We use 100% of our brain. | ||
| They have it mapped out. | ||
| They know what part of your brain works for different areas. | ||
| They did not know at a certain point in time in history, and that's when people started kind of chirping that and saying it back and forth. | ||
| So through the wonders of the internet, we just cleared that up. | ||
| See, and this is why you never stop learning. | ||
| Never! | ||
| Every day you learn something new. | ||
| What do you think about all this Nazi shit? | ||
| Because one of the things that's fascinating about the Ancient Aliens show is how much the Nazis were into the occult and the Mahabharata... | ||
| And trying to recreate things that were in ancient scriptures. | ||
| I mean, the Indiana Jones thing, they kind of got into it with the... | ||
| What is it called? | ||
| The Ark of the Covenant. | ||
| And, you know, there's something to it. | ||
| And the Nazis were obsessed with that shit. | ||
| But if they were just some fucking coups, you know, which they clearly were in one way, but they were also so fucking advanced with rocketry and with science and, you know... | ||
| I mean, so many companies came out of Nazi Germany, you know. | ||
| I mean, just Germany, period. | ||
| Forget the Nazis. | ||
| I mean, they're so... | ||
| I mean, Porsche started their BMW. So many sophisticated engineers. | ||
| They were so advanced. | ||
| What the fuck was their big thing about UFOs? | ||
| What was the whole Nazi-UFO connection? | ||
| Because that was one of the most... | ||
| Fascinating ancient aliens to me. | ||
| Yeah, no, look, I mean, there's definitely something that can be said about this, and the whole idea, because many scholars say that Hitler and the Nazis were never into the occult. | ||
| And that is simply untrue because we have found, or they found, documents, because the Nazis were immaculate record-keepers, as we know, and it says that these expeditions to the North Pole to find, you know, openings at the North Pole and the South Pole, that these expeditions truly did exist, that the real society and the Tula society really existed and things like that. | ||
| And I personally find it fascinating, but I've got to be honest with you, that to me, it's not ancient enough to talk about egos, because that was 70 years ago. | ||
| My ancient aliens, some people consider 70-year-old people ancient, but I don't. | ||
| So my aliens happened thousands of years ago. | ||
| So you're a Sumerian, Mesopotamian type. | ||
| Egyptian and ancient Greece and things like that. | ||
| But at the same time, You just never know. | ||
| And it would be foolish to not listen to those stories or to look at these opinions because you just never know. | ||
| Just be open at all times. | ||
| Isn't there like a bunch of vases and paintings that have like old drawings of aliens on them and stuff like that? | ||
| Have those been disproven or have those... | ||
| Because I've seen a few of them where they're like, yeah, this is an alien. | ||
| I'm like, yeah, or it's just a guy that has his head shaved and the artist sucks, you know? | ||
| I mean, have you done any research on that kind of stuff? | ||
| Yeah, no, I mean, look, one of the greatest, quote-unquote, pieces of evidence that we have is, you know, the... | ||
| The carvings that we find, but also the figurines and drawings on vases like what you were saying. | ||
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And there really are... | |
| Compelling figurines and compelling drawings that, compared to modern days, are eerily similar to modern day astronaut suits. | ||
| And, you know, a lot of times the debunkers are like, okay, so you're suggesting that the aliens were here, and why on earth would they wear the same suits, or why would they need suits like our modern day astronauts? | ||
| Because they were a little more advanced than us. | ||
| Right, exactly. | ||
| If there were us in a hundred years, we would need suits. | ||
| Right, but that's the exact argument that, you know, if we can't go to the moon without a suit, so why would aliens, if they're, you know, oxygen-based people as we are... | ||
| Or people that need to breathe oxygen for their life support. | ||
| So to suggest that aliens are so vastly different than us, I have a hard time with that. | ||
| I mean, there's some people that have suggested that aliens are just these, you know, blobs of slime. | ||
| And I'm like, okay, that's possible, but, you know... | ||
| That would defy nature, because nature is very efficient. | ||
| And I think that the building blocks and requirements for life are pretty much given throughout the entire universe. | ||
| And so that if something happens here, you know, to think that aliens would exist like in the Hollywood movies, that's a bit too much for me. | ||
| I mean, look, it's great entertainment. | ||
| But do I think that that is how it is in reality? | ||
| Not really. | ||
| I think that we're all pretty much, you know, the same out there. | ||
| You know, more advanced, obviously, but looks-wise? | ||
| Because all those ancient carvings or descriptions and paintings that we have, you know, especially if you look at the ancient Hindu gods, they look like us, beautiful, but just with blue skin, for example. | ||
| But they weren't, they didn't have four, well, in India, yes, they did have 20 arms. | ||
| Oh! | ||
| But, you know, so, you know, there's definitely something to be said that, you know, we think that we have depictions that show potential extraterrestrial visitors in the past. | ||
| You must dominate some late-night hippie pussy. | ||
| Sitting around, you know what I'm saying? | ||
| Sitting around smoking weed with some chicks at a party, and you drop some of this ancient alien knowledge? | ||
| Dude, you must just knock it out of the fucking park. | ||
| Or, should I say, have in the past. | ||
| Or, should I say, have the potential to. | ||
| I don't say you use it for evil. | ||
| Never evil. | ||
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Never evil. | |
| Do you believe in, or what do you think about the reptilian shape-shifting genre? | ||
| Complete nonsense. | ||
| But David Icke has so many good points. | ||
| Complete nonsense. | ||
| He's got so many good points about other things. | ||
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But you mentioned shape-shifting earlier. | |
| Yes, of course. | ||
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The aliens are going to have the possibility to turn into clouds or trees. | |
| Yeah, but I would not say that that's only reserved for reptilians. | ||
| I mean, look, I really think that... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I mean, the whole argument with the whole reptilian thing... | ||
| It really doesn't matter. | ||
| Because what this theory or this whole extraterrestrial question is about is whether or not extraterrestrial life not only has been here, but also whether they're here right now. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| Whether they're reptilian or if they look like Oompa Loompas, it doesn't matter. | ||
| The fact is that having an extraterrestrial presence on planet Earth, not only today, but for thousands of years, that is sensational enough than to suggest, yeah, you know, they're coming from planet so-and-so, their spaceship's name is so-and-so, their commander's name was so-and-so. | ||
| I mean, that is, to me, all irrelevant garbage. | ||
| And that is why the mainstream is not listening to these stories, because it's complete buffoonery to suggest what planet they're from, what their spaceship's name was, what their propulsion system was. | ||
| I mean, it's all nonsense. | ||
| Who gives a shit? | ||
| Extraterrestrials were and are here. | ||
| That's all that should matter. | ||
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Do you... | |
| I'm sorry. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| Do you believe Robert Lazar? | ||
| Do you believe his stories? | ||
| You know who he is? | ||
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I was just thinking about him. | |
| Him and John Lear. | ||
| Yeah, John Lear's out of his fucking mind. | ||
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He's got the craziest theories ever. | |
| John Lear believes that there are millions of humanoids on every planet in the solar system. | ||
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And we've been to all the planets. | |
| There's a secret NASA. Yeah, yeah. | ||
| He's kooky. | ||
| Yeah, he's completely crazy. | ||
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He's the craziest shit ever. | |
| But Robert Lazar is not so kooky. | ||
| Robert Lazar is... | ||
| I think he's probably full of shit about some things, for sure. | ||
| But he's also a very intelligent guy. | ||
| And god damn, he sounds confident as fuck when he gives you his depictions of what happened at Area 51 and where he worked. | ||
| It's interesting. | ||
| I don't know if he's telling the truth, but from what I understand, he lied about his education. | ||
| He lied about where he went to school. | ||
| They've proven that he didn't get degrees where he said he got degrees. | ||
| So I don't know. | ||
| But again, could be more disinformation. | ||
| Could be more... | ||
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He was a really good friend of John there. | |
| They were buddies. | ||
| Well, that's not good. | ||
| Yeah, because that John Lear guy is out to launch. | ||
| John Lear says that the moon is a... | ||
| A spaceship, right? | ||
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No, he says that that's where your soul goes to. | |
| It's a soul catcher. | ||
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When you die, your soul goes to the moon. | |
| See, that to me is nonsense. | ||
| It's just right there. | ||
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Okay, look. | |
| Never say never. | ||
| But that right there, you're going to lose the mainstream audience. | ||
| You can't listen to that, guys. | ||
| John Lear, if anybody's a disinformation guy, it's John Lear. | ||
| Lear Jets, the guy's worth fucking $50 billion out there running around talking about the moon catching souls. | ||
| When you die, you live in Ron Jeremy's balls. | ||
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Tell us about some episodes, some subjects you guys are going to cover that you didn't cover the first two seasons. | |
| You did the cowboy thing. | ||
| That's pretty good. | ||
| Yeah, no, but for example, we're talking about entire churches and buildings that are carved into the ground in Ethiopia at Aksum and at Lalibela, where apparently a... | ||
| A version where possibly the Ark of the Covenant is still buried or hidden today. | ||
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That's in Ethiopia, right? | |
| Exactly, in a town called Aksum. | ||
| Now that's what got Graham Hancock into his whole journey that he went on. | ||
| He was a mainstream reporter, and he was covering some political unrest in Ethiopia, and he started talking to some of the people that guard the temple, where they say the Ark of the Covenant is inside. | ||
| And... | ||
| He was very compelled by the evidence and the history behind it. | ||
| What do you think about it? | ||
| And what's really fascinating is that each and every guardian of that Ark, they eventually go blind, which is really fascinating to think that you're guarding this object that only you are allowed to see, if at all. | ||
| And each and every one of these guards has gone blind. | ||
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How many? | |
| How many, yeah. | ||
| Oh, we're talking at least 350 years recorded. | ||
| Of people going blind? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You would think, there you go, bitch, you could have that job. | ||
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Well, no. | |
| I ain't going blind. | ||
| And they made out of lava? | ||
| Yeah, do you get that? | ||
| Fuck this Ark of the Covenant? | ||
| Why is it so awesome and it's willing to make you go blind? | ||
| Well, and that is the exact question. | ||
| I mean, so something is going on there, unless it's a hoax and these stories have been made up, but I choose not to think that. | ||
| The man who told Graham Hancock about it had cataracts. | ||
| You know, that was one of the things that led him to start investigating. | ||
| But I have heard that, too, that many of the people that have been in the care of this thing have been blocked. | ||
| So, what do they think? | ||
| They think that it's radioactive in some sort of a way? | ||
| Possibly, possibly. | ||
| I mean, according to... | ||
| What is it supposed to be? | ||
| Well, according to the ancient astronaut theory that I represent, the Ark of the Covenant was nothing else but a container in which an extraterrestrial food dispensing device Was stored in. | ||
| Food dispensing device. | ||
| Like an extraterrestrial vending machine? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| I like that. | ||
| I'm going to steal that from you. | ||
| I like that very much. | ||
| So the Ark of the Covenant is nothing but a fucking vending machine. | ||
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Makes your face melt. | |
| That's a great title right there. | ||
| That's the first one, man. | ||
| So that basically... | ||
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How did you come to that conclusion? | |
| Well, look, in the 1970s, these two engineers by the name of Rodney Dale and George Sassoon, they wrote a book called The Mana Machine. | ||
| And if you look at... | ||
| Mana. | ||
| Mana meaning the bread that came from heaven, that fell from heaven. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And they basically... | ||
| Ancient astronaut people and the mushroom people need to get together and come up with a unified theory of crazy. | ||
| LAUGHTER Because that's what they believe man is. | ||
| I'm sorry, go ahead. | ||
| No, don't worry. | ||
| So there is a, in the Hebrew Zohar, there is a, sorry, in the Kabbalah, there is a text in the Kabbalah called Zohar. | ||
| And the Zohar describes an ancient of days that traveled with, during the 40-year wanderings, Through the desert that this Ancient of Days was with them all the time, and the Ancient of Days has been interpreted as the Old Testament God. | ||
| And so, these two engineers came along, and they read the description of it, and they said, you know what, this does not sound like a deity at all, but it sounds like some type of a machine. | ||
| Now, mind you, those guys were engineers, electrical engineers, so they weren't, you know, some hobbyists or something like this, and one guy was also a linguist at the same time, so... | ||
| They look at all these translations and look at all the different interpretations, and they found that some of the earliest translations of the Ancient of Days wasn't, in fact, the Ancient of Days, but the transportable one of the tanks. | ||
| Now, that is very bizarre that you have this thing that had to be disassembled and assembled every week after a certain amount of time where this machine or this object was taken apart with different parts that were connected with tubes and there was a huge light source and it was just this magnificent thing that they determined dispensed the mana Through big giant | ||
| tanks and also through tubes and things like this, that, you know, that is the reason why we have the Sabbath today, because on the Sabbath the machine had to be cleaned. | ||
| So all those different... | ||
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Yes! | |
| This is wild stuff. | ||
| Wild and crazy stuff. | ||
| But at the same time, it's very compelling because the texts are exactly saying that, that on Friday and Saturday, you're not going to get fed because this quote-unquote deity had to be taken apart and cleaned. | ||
| And it was an extremely meticulous and dangerous process. | ||
| People died. | ||
| People who did not know how to operate or how to, you know, conduct themselves in the presence of the transportable of the tanks, they dropped to the floor dead. | ||
| And then they would lose their fingernails. | ||
| They would have balls on their skin. | ||
| I just want to say that about a minute ago, you broke my crazy meter. | ||
| It's broken. | ||
| My shit's broken. | ||
| Nice. | ||
| It don't work anymore. | ||
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Good, good. | |
| I don't know what you're saying anymore. | ||
| I don't even know what you're saying. | ||
| That means I have done my job. | ||
| I have done my job. | ||
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I'm trying to throw your shit into my brain, what you were saying about this machine. | |
| And my brain's going... | ||
| What the fuck are you asking me? | ||
| Do you think it's possible that there was like this ancient vending machine that killed everybody? | ||
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Why would they do that? | |
| Was there a shortage of food back then? | ||
| Couldn't they just go get food? | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| Not in the desert. | ||
| Some awesome food. | ||
| They had awesome food. | ||
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If you took an ice cream truck back in the time machine, people would freak the fuck out. | |
| Freak the fuck out. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| Yeah, you would run shit with an ice cream cone. | ||
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The big stick pussy that you would get if you had an ice cream machine back there. | |
| There are ancient stories where they talk about magical glowing tablets that contain the universal knowledge. | ||
| If you take that laptop back to 10,000 years ago, you have a magical tablet all of a sudden. | ||
| Yeah, it is true. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, you know, like I said, I believe that there's some shit that human beings have discovered a long fucking time ago and then rediscovered it. | ||
| If human beings created the pyramids, and that is the general consensus, right? | ||
| And I agree with that. | ||
| It was definitely human beings. | ||
| But with the assistance of extraterrestrial technology... | ||
| Because that is what ancient texts, for example, the Al-Hitat or Al-Kitat are saying, written by the Egyptian historian Al-Makritzi, that the pyramids were built by Zaurit, who was a king, and his people, with the assistance of the guardians of the sky. | ||
| And in our interpretation, of course, the guardians of the sky were advanced flesh and blood extraterrestrials who taught mankind how to use certain machinery. | ||
| Yo. | ||
| That's heavy. | ||
| So, Zachariah Sitchin believed that the pyramids were never tombs, they were never built as tombs. | ||
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He believes that they were beacons for the Anunnaki. | |
| Yes, I mean, that is definitely a possibility. | ||
| Personally, I agree with the notion that the pyramids were never tombs, because even when the first time that the pyramids were, allegedly the seals were broken, No actual bodies were found in there. | ||
| And what's really fascinating is the fact that, you know, the pyramids defy every single other structure in Egypt because you walk inside any tomb in Egypt and the walls are filled with hieroglyphics and really, I mean, it says exactly when it was built, by whom, and how, and when, and what, and where. | ||
| And you go inside the pyramids and they're completely anonymous except for a couple of cartouches that the debate is still out whether or not these cartouches are in fact forgeries or not. | ||
| So that mystery has not yet been solved, despite what mainstream archaeologists are saying. | ||
| When they've dated the Great Pyramid back to 2500 BC, what have they used to date that? | ||
| What is the... | ||
| Oh, they basically... | ||
| And I love that you just asked that question because... | ||
| The great misunderstanding is that, you know, when they... | ||
| There's a lot of people that say, you know, when they dated the Sphinx or when they dated the Pyramid and when they... | ||
| And right there, you need to take a step back because nobody was actually able to do that because you can't really date stone because stone is an inorganic material. | ||
| If you carbon date something with what they call the C14 or carbon 14 method with dating, you can only date something that's Of a living material, like bones or coal or textiles and things like that, because what they do is they measure the half-life period of radioactive isotopes. | ||
| And so that's how you can accurately date, for example, an old fire pit that has been found. | ||
| And many times archaeologists are dating a fire pit and then they come up with a The test yields a particular date, let's say, 500 BC, and then they say, well, okay, that means that the site itself also dates from 500 BC. And that, | ||
| in my opinion, is a logical fallacy, because just because a fire pit dates to 500 BC doesn't mean that the stone structure was also built in 500 BC. They can't date stones, right? | ||
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Exactly. | |
| Exactly. | ||
| So how do they do Gobekli Tepe? | ||
| How do they say that that thing is 12,000 years old? | ||
| With the fire pits and the bones that were found in and around that area. | ||
| So still, they don't guesswork. | ||
| Which means that the stones themselves could date back even further. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Or could be way newer. | ||
| Yes, of course. | ||
| That's weird that they're using Gobekli Tepe, though. | ||
| For folks that don't know, it's right now considered to be the oldest structure ever discovered. | ||
| And they're saying that it's 6,000 years before Mesopotamia and Sumer, which was previously considered to be the cradle of civilization, the oldest. | ||
| And they're saying that this was all constructed back when people were hunter-gatherers. | ||
| But if that is what they're saying, how can you say that if it's just fire pit shit and bones and whatever? | ||
| Right. | ||
| No, and the thing is also that, you know, on the little Mediterranean island in Malta, which is right next to Sicily, there are megalithic structures, megalithic meaning gigantic stones that are, you know, 250, 500 metric tons heavy, these slabs that have been transported from somewhere else, put into place with incredible precision. | ||
| And some of these have dated to 12,000 BC, when allegedly we were just, you know, munching on bananas. | ||
| And how do they date these to 12,000 BC? Also, again, with bones and with, you know, having found fire pits. | ||
| But that does not mean that the stones themselves have been placed there even earlier. | ||
| Look, there is a method out there called the thermoluminescent dating method of stone, Where you can conceivably date stone, but it's a bit inaccurate because what happens is if you polish or cut a stone, the oxygen in the air, there's a chemical reaction that takes place with the surface of that stone and they can somehow measure this... | ||
| Once it's been cut. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| But it's a very expensive way Of testing something. | ||
| Many universities, unfortunately, don't have the money, so they don't do that. | ||
| The third way is where each time that you have an ancient stone, over time, because we were talking before about erosion and If you have thousands of years of rainfall, what is left over? | ||
| You gave the answer. | ||
| You said rocks. | ||
| And that is exactly right. | ||
| So, over time, what forms over a rock is this thin film that just built. | ||
| It's called a patina. | ||
| And the thicker this film, or this patina is, the older the stone. | ||
| So, people have, in fact, been able to measure the patina And people have determined that some of these cuts are thousands and thousands of years old, meaning they're not modern-day creations. | ||
| And right there, it just bothers the mind because it was certainly not cut with bronze tools or with chicken bones, as we're led to believe. | ||
| If you had the opportunity right now, if the government came and they picked you up and Air Force One and flew you to Washington, I said, listen, dude, we're going to offer you something. | ||
| You know a lot about this shit. | ||
| We could use you. | ||
| We're going to show you some shit, and we need you to help us. | ||
| But you can't tell anybody. | ||
| You've got to quit all your ancient alien stuff. | ||
| You've got to quit your magazine. | ||
| You've got to work for the government and tell no one. | ||
| And then monitor your fucking calls. | ||
| Tell anybody you're dead. | ||
| But they're going to take you to Area 51. They're going to take you to Wright-Patterson Air Force Base to Hangar 18 and... | ||
| They're gonna show you all that shit. | ||
| Would you be down? | ||
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They're gonna show you the ancient... | |
| Show you everything. | ||
| You know the answer. | ||
| Yes. | ||
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You would do it. | |
| You would do it, right? | ||
| You would give up on civilization and be a suit. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| I might do it, too. | ||
| I might do it, too, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| I might quit comedy. | ||
| Quit comedy to learn about the aliens. | ||
| I don't know if it helped me. | ||
| If you knew for a fact, would it help? | ||
| Would you just sit around waiting for the aliens to come, and then when they didn't, would you be disappointed? | ||
| I mean, if you do know that there are aliens out there and they're monitoring... | ||
| You're like, come on, make something happen. | ||
| Well, here's something I would like to put on the record here, that personally, I have never seen a UFO. I have never been visited. | ||
| I have never had any, you know, an abduction experience or anything like this. | ||
| So, because a lot of people ask me that, and then I tell them, no, actually, I haven't. | ||
| And they're like, well, then how do you subscribe to these ideas? | ||
| Why? | ||
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Why? | |
| And I'm like, well, because, you know, to me, this has really nothing to do with belief, because belief always has this quote-unquote religious connotation. | ||
| It means that if you believe something, you have to have faith. | ||
| I don't have faith in aliens. | ||
| I don't worship them. | ||
| I don't, quote-unquote, think of them as spiritual or divine beings. | ||
| They're people like us, just more advanced technologically speaking. | ||
| So to me, it's more of an idea of knowing instead of believing. | ||
| I think about these things. | ||
| It's not that I, quote-unquote, believe in it. | ||
| Do you think there's a broad spectrum of aliens out there? | ||
| There's some of them that are just a little more advanced than us, like they could visit us and maybe fuck us and take our gold? | ||
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Sure. | |
| And there's other ones that are like super advanced that are just showing up as clouds and monitoring us and waiting for explosions. | ||
| There is this thing out there where this guy, Kardashev, this Soviet scientist in the 60s, or the 70s actually, came up with this... | ||
| The classification of civilizations. | ||
| And he said that there's basically three types of civilizations out there. | ||
| Type 1, Type 2, Type 3. Type 1 civilization is... | ||
| And it's all about energy. | ||
| Because in the end, that's all what it comes down to. | ||
| And he basically suggested that a Type I civilization is capable of harnessing the energy resources of their own home planet. | ||
| A Type II civilization is able to harness the energy resources of their solar system, and a Type III civilization is able to harness the energy resources of their own galaxy. | ||
| Now we, on this scale, we're none. | ||
| We are a Type 0 civilization on the verge of becoming a Type 1 civilization. | ||
| So Carl Sagan actually suggested that we're maybe a.7 or possibly now a.8. | ||
| And many of these astronomers and astrophysicists are suggesting that this transitionary period... | ||
| From a type 0 to a type 1 is the most difficult and most dangerous one because it does involve the splitting of the atom. | ||
| And monkeys, all together. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Splitting the atom and monkeys. | ||
| You know, so, I mean, this is all fascinating stuff. | ||
| Brian's asleep. | ||
| You know, one thing I was going to ask you about before when you said they found those little things and they rebuilt them and put propellers on them and they were like a plane. | ||
| I saw the pictures of those, but it also looks like they kind of modified the wings a little bit to make it actually fly. | ||
| Couldn't that have been just easily like a statue of a bird or something like that? | ||
| Why is it all... | ||
| Well, just they put rudders. | ||
| It doesn't look like they modified the wings. | ||
| I mean, yeah, the wings on the actual statue is just like a flat... | ||
| That has to be curved in order for it to get flight, you know? | ||
| Yeah, but the thing is that it actually, in the same collection of totems or funeral objects that have been found, they did find carvings or creations of birds. | ||
| And they look... | ||
| Totally different. | ||
| Yes, and fish, and crocodiles, and frogs. | ||
| And what he was talking about earlier, too, about the wings being on the bottom, and the fuselage, and all that shit is very bird-like. | ||
| The rudder on the top, there's no animal in history that has that fucking thing. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Let me see some more of those pictures you brought in, man, because you brought in some badass structures. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| And this is your own collection. | ||
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Yeah, this is stuff that I took all around the world. | |
| Now, for example, you know, because I was saying earlier that obviously our ancestors did know how to cut stone and move objects and move stone blocks and things like that, so there's absolutely no question about that. | ||
| I don't know how to do this. | ||
| So if you look, for example, at this structure right here, obviously it's a type of a stone quarry where blocks were cut out. | ||
| So, you know, there's no question that stone blocks were actually cut out of these particular sections right there. | ||
| However, if you, and this here is on the back entrance in Peru, in an area called Ollantaytambo, and what you have here is two blocks that were cut out of the side of the mountain. | ||
| One at the very top, where if you look closely at this particular photograph, the top one, the top block, or the top slab, was released by, you know, having three cuts on the left, on the right, on the bottom, and then one blade that went down on the back. | ||
| But I want you to pay attention to the bottom square of this particular slab that was cut out, where you can see the four sides have been cut out, and then the back. | ||
| But there is no access point to this particular, to the back, because if you look closely, the bridge that connects, or that is between the top part, or the top slab that was cut out, and the bottom one, There is no access point. | ||
| It's a solid piece. | ||
| Okay, I see what you're saying. | ||
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Right. | |
| So what you're saying is the top one, you could slide behind it and cut it out because you could get at the top of it. | ||
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Yes. | |
| With this one, there's like a bridge. | ||
| There's no way to get behind it and cut it out. | ||
| And as if somebody wanted to have a good time, the actual block that fit into the bottom... | ||
| Slot is sitting right next to it. | ||
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Yeah, I was going to say, maybe they just destroyed it. | |
| No. | ||
| No, no, no, no, you can see it. | ||
| And here it is. | ||
| It's cut out. | ||
| Check it out. | ||
| So, and that piece right there, that block, has not a single millimeter of loss of material. | ||
| So it's not like they carved around it or something. | ||
| I mean, this is a physical impossibility. | ||
| And the only way that somebody... | ||
| You know, gave an idea how this could have been possible is if you have a piece of... | ||
| This is... | ||
| I really wish we had photos of this that we could show people. | ||
| I mean, this is... | ||
| What can they look up? | ||
| What can they look up? | ||
| Because this is really fascinating. | ||
| What is the name of this stone? | ||
| What can they look up online if they want to Google this? | ||
| Yeah, bro, how many people are looking at this? | ||
| A fraction. | ||
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You know what, I can send you the pictures. | |
| What should they look for if they can find this online? | ||
| This is Ollantaytambo. | ||
| O-L-L-A-N-T-A-Y-T-A-M-B-O. Ollantaytambo in Peru. | ||
| And it's in the back quarry of that archaeological site. | ||
| It's fucking incredible. | ||
| Now, I got a question. | ||
| What the fuck is up with Peru, man? | ||
| There's so much crazy shit in Peru. | ||
| The Nazca Lines, Machu Picchu, those crazy people with the skulls, where they deformed their skulls to make themselves look like fucking the Coneheads. | ||
| What's that about? | ||
| The elongated craniums or the Coneheads is definitely incredible. | ||
| Is it all the same era? | ||
| Is it all combined? | ||
| Yes and no. | ||
| I mean, look, one thing that's really great in my opinion is that archaeologists agree that Peru has the culture, the ancient culture of Peru are the Incas. | ||
| And what's fascinating is the fact that today the archaeologists agree that a pre-Inca civilization did in fact exist. | ||
| But not a single archaeologist agrees who the hell those pre-Inca people were. | ||
| So, this is where, you know, your previous idea and theory definitely comes into place, or fits, that there was a type of highly advanced civilization back in the past that nobody knows even what date, and some have suggested 10-15,000 years ago. | ||
| That that civilization might have been wiped out. | ||
| Because Pumapunku, for example, is such a region or a site that was 100% built by a pre-Incan civilization. | ||
| And still today, archaeologists are fighting over who these people were. | ||
| We had a buddy on the other day, Tom Segura, who had been to Machu Picchu several times. | ||
| And I was saying that I had read something. | ||
| I believe it was Graham Hancock's speculation about Machu Picchu. | ||
| That at one point in time it was at the site of water. | ||
| Isn't that true? | ||
| Pumapunku. | ||
| Pumapunku. | ||
| Was that what it was? | ||
| It wasn't Machu Picchu? | ||
| In fact, Pumapunku, it's translated... | ||
| But it's miles away from water right now, right? | ||
| Yes, yes. | ||
| It's right next to Lake Titicaca, which is the highest navigable lake in the world at 12,500 feet. | ||
| And still today, the train tracks that drive or that go through the Bolivian highlands and the Peruvian highlands are filled with mussels and with fish bones that are thousands and thousands of years old, proving that that area used to be under seawater. | ||
| We're not talking fresh water. | ||
| We're talking seawater. | ||
| So Pumapunku was built as an ocean port? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And that is even something that mainstream archaeologists have proposed as well. | ||
| And how old is it supposed to be then? | ||
| Well, that would mean it goes back to the last ice age. | ||
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Goddamn! | |
| So we're at 14,000 years ago. | ||
| So all these Nazca lines and the top of the Nazca lines, isn't there clear evidence that that area has been excavated by machines? | ||
| I mean, there are entire... | ||
| The entire mountaintops at Nazca are missing, have been sheared off as if with a cheese knife or a butter knife. | ||
| But how do they know that it was higher? | ||
| I mean, what is the proof? | ||
| Well, because you have mountain ranges right next door, not even 100 yards away or 200 yards away. | ||
| That are a certain height. | ||
| Of a certain height, and it's flat. | ||
| And the other ones are completely like tabletops. | ||
| Are they level? | ||
| Level, 100% perfection. | ||
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Really? | |
| You can play pool on it? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Really? | ||
| I think we should go play some Naskapool right now. | ||
| What is the mainstream opinion of what those lines are for? | ||
| It's very clear. | ||
| You can only see them from the sky. | ||
| If they are just artwork, they're artwork for fucking who? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| How big are they? | ||
| They are... | ||
| There is... | ||
| NASCA is fascinating because you have, I mean, world-famous geoglyphs, and mainly people see the images of the spider and the monkey. | ||
| The astronaut. | ||
| The astronaut. | ||
| By the way, the astronaut who looks like E.T. with the big eyes, one hand is pointing to the sky, the other hand is pointing to Earth. | ||
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To his dick. | |
| Suck my dick. | ||
| That's where it is. | ||
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Go to space. | |
| Earth's dick. | ||
| And so, you know, but at the same time, you have those lines that... | ||
| That look like landing strips. | ||
| That look like landing strips. | ||
| And by the way, we never suggested that they actually were landing strips, because the argument is completely ridiculous, because what? | ||
| Exeterrestrials travel millions and billions of light years, and then before they can land is to get to build airstrips. | ||
| I mean, it makes no sense. | ||
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So for the debunkers to even say that, I mean, they're nuts. | |
| What do you think those lines are then? | ||
| Those long, straight lines? | ||
| They look like, you know, it looks like an airport. | ||
| And there's absolutely no doubt in that, that it looks like an airport. | ||
| So, for example, look, right now we've got a rover on Mars that's, you know, driving around and it's leaving behind these tracks. | ||
| So we're suggesting that at some point a long time ago, some type of an unmanned or possibly even manned craft landed at NASCA to conduct the core drills and core samples of the ground to determine what's in that area. | ||
| Because still today, NASCA... There's a bunch of drilled holes, right? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And there's still mining going on today at NASCA because it's very abundant in very precious raw materials. | ||
| On Earth. | ||
| So if you want to know about planet Earth, you can go to NASCA, and by conducting a few days of research, it's like the cliff notes of planet Earth, essentially. | ||
| And so imagine if you had a bunch of natives there, and all of a sudden this thing lands that conducts a bunch of research. | ||
| They're, of course, afraid. | ||
| They run away. | ||
| And then this craft leaves again, and it has left behind some tracks in the sand or on the ground. | ||
| And then they come back out and they look at this stuff and they're like, oh my god, what just happened here? | ||
| I think we were just visited by God. | ||
| Doesn't it make more sense? | ||
| And then they recreate it. | ||
| These funerary objects that are 1,500 years old that look like planes that are from Central and South America, doesn't it make more sense that they had planes? | ||
| That someone had planes back then? | ||
| Well, yes, of course. | ||
| I mean, that is the suggestion. | ||
| Yeah, there must be renways and that's what this whole Nazca Line thing, maybe it really is an airport. | ||
| Look, I'm always one to say, never say never. | ||
| So, is it possible? | ||
| It's aliens. | ||
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I don't care. | |
| Exactly. | ||
| Flesh and blood ones at that. | ||
| No, but the thing is that, you know, the bottom line is that at NASCA, what's really odd is that we have done some research there where we found, you know, higher levels of arsenic in areas where there shouldn't be any arsenic. | ||
| There are very bizarre magnetic fields there where you can put down your compass and it keeps on spinning and things like that at the beginning and at the end of these runway looking like strips. | ||
| And so something definitely happened there because the whole idea that it was very easy to build these things is nonsense because people have suggested, oh, all you have to do is you have to scratch off the surface of the... | ||
| Of the ground, and then you expose the lighter or the darker underground with the pebbles and things like that. | ||
| We've tried that, and people have tried it. | ||
| It doesn't work that way. | ||
| There's just so many things in Peru. | ||
| It's not just that. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| You know, with Machu Picchu and the skulls, those people that were deforming their heads. | ||
| What is the explanation for that? | ||
| They made their heads like alien heads. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They flattened them out and stretched them out and... | ||
| Well, and here's the crazy thing, that archaeology even has an answer to this, and they say that the reason why, and this was achieved by binding the infant's head upon birth with wooden boards, so that the brains or the brain chamber would grow into this elongated fashion. | ||
| And the archaeologists are saying, well, yes, of course, they did this because they were mimicking or worshipping their gods. | ||
| And then they pat each other on the shoulder, and then they go home and say, case solved, mystery done, we're out of here, this is it. | ||
| And that is exactly where I say, no, the mystery is not solved, because the question is, okay, you just said... | ||
| That this was done in order to worship the gods. | ||
| Well, my question is, who were these gods? | ||
| That is the question that the archaeologists are not answering. | ||
| Are there any images that they have of these gods? | ||
| Well, for example, all over ancient Egypt, which by the way, the skull deformation phenomenon also happened in ancient Egypt. | ||
| It happened in Germany. | ||
| It happened in Russia. | ||
| All around the world do we have these elongated skulls that are obviously human in origin, but they all have all these elongated heads. | ||
| And then there are some skulls that we don't know if they're really human in origin. | ||
| You mean like that star child thing? | ||
| What do you think about that? | ||
| Is that a horseshit? | ||
| That, for example, it's definitely something worth looking into. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| There's no question in my mind. | ||
| But to return to the elongated... | ||
| You don't know about Starchild? | ||
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No, what is that? | |
| Starchild's a skull that they found that's really freaky looking. | ||
| They've determined that it's human, but it might be human plus something else like the mitochondrial DNA, whatever the fuck it was. | ||
| I think it's determined that the mother was human, but they don't know what the father was. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is just reading it online. | ||
| It could easily just be some horrible birth defect. | ||
| Yeah, no, it's to be debated, but it's definitely a fascinating story that, you know, merits further investigation. | ||
| What places, out of all these sites, what places haven't you been to? | ||
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Have you been to most of them? | |
| 80% of them? | ||
| 90% of them? | ||
| Like... | ||
| No, I mean, there's definitely... | ||
| I've been about to 75% of the stuff because... | ||
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That's amazing. | |
| Yeah, you know, I mean, it's... | ||
| See, that's the one thing... | ||
| What's the most mind-blowing? | ||
| Puma Punku. | ||
| I mean, look, for sheer size, it's definitely the Great Pyramid on the Giza Plateau. | ||
| Have you been? | ||
| No. | ||
| You must go. | ||
| Eddie's been. | ||
| You have. | ||
| So you know. | ||
| I've only been to Chichen Itza. | ||
| That's the only crazy place I've been. | ||
| That's also a crazy thing with the shadow play with Quetzalcoatl and all this. | ||
| I mean, you know that when you stand in front of that pyramid, you're breathless. | ||
| You can't breathe. | ||
| They're so incredibly massive. | ||
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You know what's crazy about them is that you never... | |
| You never see, in the pyramids, in the pictures that you see, you never see that there's a ghetto, an Egyptian ghetto, all around it. | ||
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You know what I mean? | |
| There's one side of the pyramid where it's all open desert, and then right there, you're in a ghetto. | ||
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And the cool thing is when you drive around this ghetto, you're in garbage. | |
| But the pyramid is always visible wherever you go. | ||
| So you've got this ancient monument and then you... | ||
| Check cashing place. | ||
| Yes, exactly. | ||
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Gang bangers. | |
| Egyptian drive-bys. | ||
| Cheap goat heads. | ||
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You know what's cool about your job? | |
| Your job is so cool that if there was ever a chick that was like a little bit out of your league, you could always say, you know, I'm going to Machu Picchu next week and I want you to go with me. | ||
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Right? | |
| And what girl wouldn't go? | ||
| We were saying that about Tom Segura. | ||
| If I was a chick, I'd be willing to fuck him. | ||
| He's telling me so much about Machu Picchu. | ||
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He's a traveled man. | |
| You know what I mean? | ||
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That's always a deal closer right there. | |
| Yeah, you have good genetics. | ||
| A traveled man? | ||
| A man with that kind of experience? | ||
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I don't know. | |
| He's kind of a nerd. | ||
| He's sort of a nerd, but damn. | ||
| He's got crazy hair. | ||
| I love his jewelry. | ||
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I do want to go to Easter Island. | |
| The Puma thing. | ||
| It's weird how it's like the Nazi symbol built into it. | ||
| That one part. | ||
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I bet he has chicks laying out. | |
| You probably have chicks laying out on Easter Island. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| In a thong. | ||
| In Pumapuku, there's a swastika? | ||
| There are swastikas all around the world. | ||
| In fact, the swastika has its origin in ancient India. | ||
| Yeah, Hindu. | ||
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Sign of good fortune. | |
| Absolutely. | ||
| Well, they fucked that up. | ||
| Try telling people that now. | ||
| First of all, they reversed the direction, but whatever. | ||
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But the bottom line is they ruined that and the little mustache. | |
| Michael Jordan tried to bring back that little mustache. | ||
| That's the kind of ego that motherfucker has. | ||
| Maybe they reversed it to say sign of death instead of sign of good fortune, right? | ||
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Sign of bad fortune. | |
| They just ganked it. | ||
| They just stole it. | ||
| No, and it was also used in ancient Greece. | ||
| I mean, it's a symbolism. | ||
| But they reversed it, though. | ||
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It's not the same. | |
| They did reverse it. | ||
| Yes, yes. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Symbolism is fascinating, which is one of the most fascinating things to me about the Egyptian language, that it was all symbols. | ||
| But instead of, you know, with us, with letters, and each letter having a sound, what they have is like these symbols. | ||
| Apparently, just absorbing the language, just interpreting it. | ||
| It just has a completely different experience in the human mind. | ||
| You know, all these symbols. | ||
| You know, we have symbols that we register. | ||
| Like, this is a McDonald's symbol. | ||
| This is Sitco. | ||
| But their language consisted of these things, and that is a completely different experience than reading our language. | ||
| And the ancient Incas had nuts. | ||
| They had string with nuts. | ||
| That was their language. | ||
| That was their written language. | ||
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I wonder why they got jacked by the Spanish. | |
| The Spanish came over and go, yo, yo, yo, should we kill these people? | ||
| Dude, they're writing strings. | ||
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Shut up, they're giving us their gold. | |
| Let's get the gold first. | ||
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Put that motherfucker on the ship. | |
| That is another fascinating thing. | ||
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Because they were cool for a while. | |
| For a while. | ||
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Once the gold ran out, they started fucking slicing. | |
| Well, they started realizing that they weren't gods anymore, too. | ||
| They thought people on horses were gods. | ||
| Well, there's actually a little bit more to that story, and that is... | ||
| No, get out. | ||
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Yeah, no, that was it. | |
| That was the whole story. | ||
| The end. | ||
| Thread, slash, thread. | ||
| No, that, you know, many ancient cultures based their whole calendar on the return of the gods, and it just so happened that, you know, both Cortez and Pizarro happened to arrive on those shores in the same year... | ||
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They fucking lucked out! | |
| Right! | ||
| It is, it absolutely is, it was complete chance. | ||
| And doesn't, isn't the bearded, the serpent, the plume serpent, doesn't that same thing mean a bearded man? | ||
| Isn't it like the translation of Quetzalcoatl and Kukulakan is like so similar to a man with a beard? | ||
| And that, you know, this is one of the reasons why the Aztecs were so baffled by these people, because they were men with beards. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yes, I mean, that's... | ||
| Is that right? | ||
| Yeah, that's part of it, but, you know, to me, that's, you know, it's a bit, kind of, it's very elitist in a certain way, because... | ||
| Even though those theories have been proposed, that all of a sudden this red-headed guy appeared with a red beard and things like that, and that's why he was worshipped. | ||
| I mean, I don't think that people or that those cultures back then were so shallow. | ||
| I think it has more to do that this Quetzalcoatl or Kukulkan character If he was a red-headed guy, that he flew around in this flying or plumed or winged serpent. | ||
| And that this winged serpent, we all know that snakes do not fly. | ||
| When you eat enough mushrooms, they do, bro. | ||
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I know. | |
| They talk to you, too. | ||
| But see, here's the thing, that you can't attribute everything... | ||
| That a person sees... | ||
| To mushrooms? | ||
| To mushrooms because... | ||
| If you've done enough mushrooms, you can. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| No, look, I have to say something about... | ||
| Yes, no, but the thing is that our collective... | ||
| You can't after a while. | ||
| Our collective consciousness today is way bigger than the collective consciousness back in the day. | ||
| How do we know? | ||
| The thing is that today, if we see a spaceship or a UFO, we can immediately recognize it as a spaceship or a UFO. Back in the day, if you didn't know what that was, | ||
| It doesn't matter how many mushrooms you took, you still had to describe it with something that was a spark of inspiration or a spark of something that motivated or inspired all these stories. | ||
| But how do we not know what these stories are? | ||
| It's people's memory of someone else who had seen people who were flying around. | ||
| And it was thousands and thousands of years ago. | ||
| So over time, these stories get more and more diluted. | ||
| But in your mind, it all goes back to aliens. | ||
| And they absolutely did. | ||
| They did get diluted. | ||
| That's the whole idea. | ||
| That's why we have aliens. | ||
| You know, Christianity today, and Islam, and all those different things. | ||
| You believe the Zacharias Hitchin depiction of humanity, that we are engineered from lower primates by some aliens to mine for gold? | ||
| I subscribe to the first part of that statement, yes, that we came about through a direct target mutation of our genes, and that will be the ultimate proof, by the way, the ultimate proof of ET visitation. | ||
| It won't be in a crashed spaceship or finding a ray gun or something silly like that, but it'll be found in our own genes. | ||
| That something happened in the past that did not come by chance. | ||
| But haven't they already mapped out the human genome? | ||
| Isn't that how they understand that white people are mostly... | ||
| You know, related to Neanderthals, and, you know, I mean, haven't they figured out all these things? | ||
| Yes, of course. | ||
| I mean, there's definitely many, many conclusions have been drawn, but there's still... | ||
| Is there mystery in the human genome still? | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| Absolutely. | ||
| For example, that, you know, 95% of our human genome, of our DNA makeup, allegedly, is junk. | ||
| I completely disagree with that. | ||
| Just because we can't decipher those 95% yet doesn't mean that that 95% truly is garbage. | ||
| Do you think that in our lifetime things are ever going to change? | ||
| Quickly, though. | ||
| And no, we were not to create our slaves. | ||
| No. | ||
| Absolutely not. | ||
| You don't believe that. | ||
| That's, again, doom and gloom nonsense. | ||
| So they came and they just sort of fucked with people and created... | ||
| Just like what we will do 5,000 years from now on another planet, you know, if we want to experiment. | ||
| And I think that, you know, good in the end always outweighs the bad. | ||
| Tell that to the Indians. | ||
| They got jacked. | ||
| Well, you know, but seriously, that, you know, you can definitely make an argument that if we go out there, that it won't be to destroy others, but, you know, in a benevolent way. | ||
| In planet Earth, every single intelligent animal that's less intelligent than us, we've enslaved. | ||
| We've fucked with dolphins, orcas, monkeys, chimps. | ||
| Everything that we can fuck, we fuck. | ||
| Everything that we can eat, we eat. | ||
| And that is the evidence of every other intelligent life, how it treats that Other intelligent life that it can manipulate, like dolphins killing other dolphins, and orcas killing dolphins, orcas killing whales. | ||
| But I also think that that is why, that is the reason why we have not yet made official contact with any type of... | ||
| So we're not ready? | ||
| We're not ready. | ||
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We fuck too many animals. | |
| I wonder what are the top five animals that we fuck. | ||
| I would say sheep number one. | ||
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Sheep's got to be one. | |
| Donkeys. | ||
| That Colombian donkey show you ever watch that? | ||
| Chicken. | ||
| A lot of chickens we fuck. | ||
| Dogs. | ||
| People fuck their dogs. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And then that Dave Chappelle bit about trying to fuck a monkey. | ||
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Can't fuck a monkey. | |
| Can't fuck a monkey. | ||
| Monkey will bite your dick off. | ||
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You know how strong a monkey is. | |
| It'll throw you across the room. | ||
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Snap your dick off like a piece of celery and throw it in the tall grass. | |
| Never to be seen again. | ||
| You know how strong a monkey is? | ||
| So in closing, this has been a crazy fucking conversation. | ||
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Dude, we got the top five right there. | |
| It took us 20 fucking seconds. | ||
| Yeah, it's not hard at all. | ||
| Jellyfish. | ||
| Maybe someone really crazy. | ||
| Seeing enemies. | ||
| Someone fucking seeing enemies. | ||
| Frogs like a pocket flashlight. | ||
| Yeah, for chimps, right? | ||
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Chimps fuck frogs. | |
| I bet in the zoo they give them a little tranquilizer. | ||
| I bet dudes would fuck lions and tigers. | ||
| Wow, just to get off? | ||
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It's a little tranquilizer. | |
| Did you see that guy, the congressman that got busted? | ||
| He's a furry. | ||
| Apparently he's been doing a lot of weird shit. | ||
| He's kind of crazy. | ||
| In the tiger costume? | ||
| Woo, yeah. | ||
| Congressman Woo. | ||
| His staff's trying to get him to resign. | ||
| I don't know if he's resigned yet. | ||
| It's inevitable. | ||
| But apparently he's out of his fucking mind. | ||
| Dresses up like a tiger. | ||
| It's like one of those kids' costumes. | ||
| It's not even a cool-cut tiger costume. | ||
| Well, that's what the furries wear, you know? | ||
| We've talked about furries in the podcast before because I was in Pittsburgh and they had a furry convention at the same time that the UFC was in Pittsburgh. | ||
| and all these furries were wandering the streets, and the people in the hotel set me hip to furries because they go to Pittsburgh every year. | ||
| So the guys that are working in the hotel tell you the nutty stories of these people, shitting in the litter boxes. | ||
| And some of the furry community actually got upset with me that I was spreading misinformation. | ||
| Well, I say no. | ||
| You may not, if you're a furry, you may not be into the dirty aspect of the furry. | ||
| But there's a broad spectrum of furry behavior, folks. | ||
| And just because you're not into taking shits in litter boxes doesn't mean that the man who worked at the Westin didn't tell me that they called down and asked to put a large litter box in the fucking lobby of the Westin because the furries had every room in the Westin, so they wanted a litter box. | ||
| One litter box for everyone. | ||
| Yeah, the guy who, I asked the guy who was delivering the food, and you know, the room service guy, he said that they ask for bowls, like to eat on the ground, like to eat like dog bowls, like big bowls, they want all their food in bowls, and then they go over there, the bowls are on the ground, like bowls of milk, they ask for a large bowl of milk, and they eat it like an animal. | ||
| This dude's a congressman. | ||
| We're so up the ass of politicians that there's no one left but crazy people. | ||
| There's no one left but Michelle Bachmanns. | ||
| You gotta be completely out to fucking lunch to want to be the president of this country. | ||
| It's nuts. | ||
| And coming from the alien guy, that's saying a lot. | ||
| Thursday, Ancient Aliens, the premiere of Season 3. Good luck with that, sir. | ||
| Thank you very much for coming on the podcast. | ||
| And if you want to follow Giorgio on Twitter, it's Tsoukalos. | ||
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T-S-O-U-K-A-L-A-O-S. L-O-S. O-S. I'll say it again. | |
| T-S-O-U-K-A-L-O-S. Nice. | ||
| Got it. | ||
| And Eddie? | ||
| I'm going to be in El Paso, 10th Planet El Paso this Saturday. | ||
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Go to 10planetjj.com. | |
| You had to reschedule, right? | ||
| You got sick. | ||
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Yeah, I got sick last weekend. | |
| So I rescheduled it for this Saturday. | ||
| Go to 10planetjj.com. | ||
| And get on the Nibiru forum. | ||
| That's the name of my forum. | ||
| Tenth Planet Jiu Jitsu. | ||
| Tenth Planet Jiu Jitsu. | ||
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I love it. | |
| That's great, man. | ||
| We named it when we were high talking about Zacharias Hitchens. | ||
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Sweet! | |
| I wanted to call my school Nibiru Jiu Jitsu, and then it sounded too weird, and Joe goes, dude, just call it Tenth Planet Jiu Jitsu. | ||
| I'm like, ah, that sounds stupid! | ||
| Two minutes later, I thought... | ||
| Damn, 10th Night Jiu-Jitsu does sound way better than Nibiru Jiu-Jitsu. | ||
| History. | ||
| I named my forum, the Nibiru Forum. | ||
| That's where all the information is. | ||
| Jiu-Jitsu history, bitches. | ||
| I love it. | ||
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That's awesome. | |
| August 13th, I will be in Milwaukee with Mad Flavor, a.k.a. | ||
| Joey Diaz, at the Pabst Theater. | ||
| Tickets are still available. | ||
| They are going fast, though. | ||
| And then September 23rd at the Paramount in Denver. | ||
| Holla at your boy. | ||
| And that is, uh, last time I checked, it was half sold out already. | ||
| And, um, it's only been on sale for a couple days. | ||
| Denver, showing mad love. | ||
| Can't wait to get back to Colorado before the end of the Earth, before the civilization corrodes, and that's where I'll live. | ||
| Eternally. | ||
| Because I'm going to travel through space, speed of light, come back 13,000 years. | ||
| That's a lot of shit that happened in this podcast, and not a lot of it was good. | ||
| A lot of it was strange. | ||
| Brian fell asleep at least five times. | ||
| I noticed it. | ||
| Eddie Bravo. | ||
| I'm just drunk off. | ||
| Any questions before we leave for this? | ||
| Man, you were fucking chomping at the bit to get in here on this podcast. | ||
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No, I was just... | |
| I wanted to just sit and listen to him talk. | ||
| We got into dirty shit at the end. | ||
| You feel like you corrupted enough? | ||
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Yeah, we did enough damage. | |
| Shazam. | ||
| Beautiful. | ||
| Alright, thank you everybody. | ||
| Thanks for tuning in. | ||
| That's it for this week. | ||
| We'll be back next week. | ||
| We're trying to rope it together with Jay Moore. | ||
| He was busy this week. | ||
| And next week, probably Joe Diaz and Duncan Trussell. | ||
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Holla! | |
| We'll see you soon. | ||
| Big kisses. | ||
| And thank you to the Fleshlight. | ||
| If you go to JoeRogan.net and click on the link for the Fleshlight and enter in the code name ROGAN, you will get 15% off the number one sex toy for men, and then you can shoot loads in it and take naps, and you will feel so good, and it is a discount. | ||
| Alright, see you freaks real soon. |
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