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May 10, 2011 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #106 - Steve Rannazzisi
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Steve, do you have one?
steve rannazzisi
No, I don't have one.
joe rogan
I'm going to give you one.
Can you have one, or do you have to hide that?
steve rannazzisi
No, that's best case scenario.
joe rogan
Steve Rennes is in the house.
Buckle up, bitches.
Here we go.
unidentified
The Joe Rogan Experience.
joe rogan
Ladies and gentlemen, live May 10th, Tuesday, 2011.
A year and several months before the end of time, Steve Renazzisi has joined us.
steve rannazzisi
Thank God I got here now.
joe rogan
Does it feel like it, man?
steve rannazzisi
I wouldn't want to be booked after the end of time.
joe rogan
Yeah, you don't want that, man.
You've seen the Mississippi shit?
steve rannazzisi
It's crazy, man.
joe rogan
Fucking people.
steve rannazzisi
Mother Nature is not fucking around.
joe rogan
The Mississippi River is like three miles past where it's supposed to be.
So many houses are flooded.
So many people are fucked.
It's in Mississippi.
steve rannazzisi
It's not supposed to be in the city of Mississippi in the fucking water.
joe rogan
It's in Memphis.
brian redban
Did they have rain for a while?
Is that what happened?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
They had rain.
There's also, they were blowing down, the Army Corps of Engineers was blowing down levees.
steve rannazzisi
The levees on purpose.
joe rogan
Yeah, to flood farmlands weeks ago because they were worried about this happening.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's fucking serious shit.
steve rannazzisi
Essentially, they were picking and choosing which places they were like, alright, you guys will be alright.
We'll help you out.
We're going to blow down the levees over here so the water would rush out so it wasn't going towards heavy populated levees.
Residential areas.
joe rogan
Wow, it's crests in Memphis now.
Wow, residents are being evacuated in the city of Memphis.
steve rannazzisi
Yeah, it's in the city.
brian redban
God.
joe rogan
That's insane.
The river crested at 48 feet, falling short of its all-time record, but still soaking low-lying areas with enough water to require a massive cleanup.
They're fucked.
steve rannazzisi
Yep.
joe rogan
The crazy thing about something like that, too, is there's nothing you can do.
With all that water coming in, what are you going to do?
Are you going to build a new dam?
And where's the water going to go when you dam it up?
Where's it going to go?
You got a lake ready?
Did you build that, too?
You can't do shit, man.
steve rannazzisi
No.
You just have to let it dry.
Hope it doesn't rain again.
joe rogan
Our little baby existence is so fragile, and we set up these camps next to these natural things like rivers and oceans, and we just assume that, well, it's been this way for a year.
It's going to be this way next year, and it's a good spot to build a house.
steve rannazzisi
I don't know.
I'm not that smart.
But do you think, like, when we were in the wilderness, right, and floods happened, they probably just didn't go as close next time, right?
They probably were like, all right, this is where the water came last time.
Let's move back a little bit.
joe rogan
Well, the bottom line is...
steve rannazzisi
Why are they building still?
joe rogan
The whole idea of living in one place is only a few thousand years old.
Just a few thousand years ago, we were nomadic.
And what we would do is move where the animals went.
We'd move where the animals went, and then some asshole figured out seeds.
And that's what fucked everything up.
steve rannazzisi
Once they could just get food right where they wanted to be.
joe rogan
I say it fucked everything up, but it made everything awesome, really.
Who the fuck wants to follow around undulate herds of animals through the fucking savannah?
You know, that would suck.
steve rannazzisi
Joe, I can't do your podcast because my family's leaving after a pack of buffaloes later on.
joe rogan
I'm going hunting with Ricky Schroeder, and that's one of the options, to shoot a buffalo.
steve rannazzisi
Really?
joe rogan
I'm trying to decide whether or not I want to kill a buffalo.
I'm killing a boar, for sure.
unidentified
With what?
steve rannazzisi
A gun, I assume?
joe rogan
Rifle, yeah.
I eat meat, you know, and I understand if you're an animal lover, but look, it's way more cruel to see an animal go through this whole system of factory farming and getting hung by their ankles and get their neck cut and they kick and spasm.
Some of the shit that you see in these videos, man, these animals have lived shit lives forever.
I don't know how much of those videos is just one isolated terrible incident in one terrible place where they don't follow the rules or if it's widespread.
You know, it's it's real difficult because neither side wants to be totally honest about how fucked up the the whole raising animals thing is.
But it's bad.
Either way, it's bad.
And I'm trying to do my best to not eat anything.
That's I try.
I'm trying to stop eating burgers.
I'm trying to stop eating anything that I think is possibly factory farmed.
You can get plenty of organic meat at Whole Foods and shit like that.
Where you know they're grass fed and they're just wandering around.
It's a better experience for the animal.
I just think that the best way to do it is definitely hunting.
And I've never done it.
And everybody who does it says it's this crazy fucking primal thrill.
steve rannazzisi
My brother-in-law kills a deer right around Christmas.
He goes with his buddies every year.
And then he kills it and cuts it up.
And he keeps meat.
It's a big meat locker.
And he eats venison all winter long.
He's like, every year when the spring comes, I'm done with the deer.
I get one in the fall.
joe rogan
Yeah, if you shoot one venison, you know, one deer, rather, that venison can last you for fucking ten months.
steve rannazzisi
Yeah, pack it up, freeze it, keep it in the freezer, you're good to go.
joe rogan
You know how long a buffalo will last you?
If I shoot this buffalo, I would have to give some of it away, because I think some of it you can't really even freeze long enough.
Yeah, because you can't freeze, like, meat for more than six months, I don't think.
brian redban
No.
joe rogan
Right?
Isn't there a certain amount of time?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's a certain amount of time.
brian redban
I don't know.
I eat chicken.
I'm like, how old is this?
Who cares?
It's frozen.
It's a big piece of ice.
steve rannazzisi
Those random Ralph's packages you see in the back of your freezer.
joe rogan
At a refrigerator or in your freezer?
brian redban
In my freezer.
In my freezer.
You know I'm talking about those bags of chicken for $12.
steve rannazzisi
I used to do that.
I don't anymore, but I know exactly.
I've done it.
Where you're like...
I don't know.
The expiration date's scratched off.
You're like, ah, fuck it.
joe rogan
You know what's supposed to be really bad?
When you freeze something, and then you thaw it out, and then you re-freeze it.
steve rannazzisi
Yeah.
Once you've thaw it out, you've got to eat it.
joe rogan
Why is that?
steve rannazzisi
Because I think...
I don't fucking know.
joe rogan
We should find that out.
brian redban
You shouldn't give food hope.
steve rannazzisi
Maybe it's like the nutrients can only come out once.
unidentified
I'm thinking halfway through that, I was like, fuck, that doesn't sound good.
steve rannazzisi
The nutrients can come out once.
brian redban
I didn't know that.
joe rogan
Here's the straight dope.
Why is refreezing food bad?
If you ever have a question, you can go to the goddamn internet if it'll load up.
brian redban
I didn't know certain things went bad like Campbell's soup or spaghetti sauce.
steve rannazzisi
Don't they tell you to keep that stuff in panic rooms?
brian redban
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
I was looking at, I think it was soup the other day, or maybe it was pasta sauce in a glass container that's been in the cupboard.
But it said there was actually an expiration date on it.
I'm like, wait a second.
I didn't think shit like canned Campbell's soup.
joe rogan
Goddammit, did I really?
steve rannazzisi
Maybe for legal reasons.
brian redban
Maybe for legal reasons.
steve rannazzisi
They have to in case you get sick or something like that.
brian redban
Yeah.
steve rannazzisi
That'd be...
I don't know.
brian redban
Let's see who's calling.
steve rannazzisi
That'd be great.
brian redban
That doesn't say.
steve rannazzisi
Um...
brian redban
So, uh...
steve rannazzisi
I've never killed...
I've never shot a gun.
brian redban
Never?
unidentified
Never.
brian redban
Oh, now that I recommend.
It's kind of scary, though.
steve rannazzisi
I'm scared...
Here's how...
Why I'm scared about that.
unidentified
Right.
steve rannazzisi
I'm scared I'm gonna get addicted to it.
I'm gonna enjoy it a lot, and then I'm gonna buy a gun.
brian redban
Yeah, but why are you scared about that?
steve rannazzisi
Well, I don't know.
It's not me...
It's that I just feel like...
brian redban
If you have a gun in your house, something will happen.
steve rannazzisi
If I don't have a gun in my house, I'm probably never going to get shot with a gun in my house.
joe rogan
What are you talking about?
brian redban
Absolutely.
joe rogan
That's a ridiculous way of thinking.
Get a fucking gun.
Better to have one and not need it than to need it and not have it.
steve rannazzisi
Period.
I was saying I've never shot a gun in my life.
joe rogan
It's easy.
You pull the trigger, boom, thing goes off.
steve rannazzisi
But then I'm afraid that I'm going to get addicted to doing it.
joe rogan
You're not retarded.
steve rannazzisi
I know.
joe rogan
Dude, you would be out there sucking dicks for crack money if you had that kind of a brain.
Just get a fucking gun.
brian redban
I was scared to have one when I used to do a lot of drugs and drink a lot because I thought I'd be emotional and I'd be tripping and I'd pull my gun out not thinking and then I'd do something stupid.
But now I don't really...
I still do that.
joe rogan
It's a control issue.
If you're worried about your own ability to control yourself, then yeah.
There's a lot of hot-headed motherfuckers that shouldn't have a gun.
A lot of people have pulled the trigger and then realized what they've done afterwards and their whole life is ruined.
steve rannazzisi
That's what I'm saying.
joe rogan
You're not that guy.
steve rannazzisi
I'm not that guy, though.
You're not that guy.
joe rogan
You would have already had a bunch of, I'm not that guy, you're not that guy.
You already have a bunch of self-control issues.
steve rannazzisi
This is how I put, I think, in my brain.
I say, if someone broke into my house with my family there, whether or not I have a gun, I'm going to want to kill them.
If I don't have a gun, I'm going to try.
If they're attacking my family, I'm going to try to find something to kill them.
Having a gun will probably make that a lot easier.
I'm going to probably try anyway, so having a gun...
joe rogan
Shotgun.
Get a shotgun, that's the move.
brian redban
Or just start collecting Lord of the Rings swords.
That's not good enough, man.
joe rogan
You think you can kill a guy with a sword?
brian redban
I have a samurai sword that's at my house right now, and I've been...
You've been practicing?
joe rogan
You ready?
brian redban
I'm ready to do some fucking, whatever, Quentin Tarantino type killing.
joe rogan
That's a fucked up way to kill somebody.
Somebody broke into a guy's house and a guy killed him with a samurai sword.
It was like a year or two ago.
steve rannazzisi
A samurai sword?
joe rogan
Yeah, he had a samurai sword.
steve rannazzisi
That could go...
unidentified
Wrong.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah.
By the way, the guy could take it from you.
And then you could die from a samurai sword.
Oh, that would be the worst.
One of the worst.
Baseball bats got to be a bad one, too.
brian redban
This guy from this website called Postsapoc, he sent me a knife in the past.
Well, now he just sent me this huge...
He sent you one, too.
One of those huge blades.
Remember that crazy knife?
And so I'm like, what do I do with all these knives this guy keeps on sucking?
So I'm like hiding them around the house.
So now I have one under my bed, like if I have a bad hooker or something like that.
joe rogan
If you have a bad hooker, you're going to stab her with a Gurkha knife.
steve rannazzisi
I used to keep a putter, an old putter next to my bed.
And then like one day it just broke apart.
I was like, thank God.
And now my buddy's a cop, gave me one of those ones that go whoop and the thing pops out.
joe rogan
Baton.
steve rannazzisi
Baton.
joe rogan
Is that what it's called?
The baton?
Retractable baton?
And the whole thing just locks out, right?
And it's metal.
steve rannazzisi
And it's locked out and it's metal.
joe rogan
You can fuck somebody up with that.
steve rannazzisi
Badly.
joe rogan
Do you remember those things they used to have when we were kids?
They were like leather and inside it was like lead pellets.
What's it called?
A blackjack?
brian redban
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
Do you remember those?
steve rannazzisi
My dad used to tell me about those things.
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
Whatever happened to blackjacks?
They used to have those.
Dudes would get whacked with those all the time.
brian redban
What's it look like?
joe rogan
It looks like sort of like a duck's beak.
brian redban
Okay.
joe rogan
But it's made out of leather and inside of it is like lead pellets and it's got a handle on it and, you know, it's like lead inside this leather and you just crack somebody with this thing.
brian redban
So it's kind of like a more high-tech version of like a sock with some marbles in it.
joe rogan
Exactly.
Exactly.
It's lead inside leather.
steve rannazzisi
High-tech, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
steve rannazzisi
Remember brass knuckles?
joe rogan
Yeah.
steve rannazzisi
Strong Island boys used to carry around brass knuckles.
joe rogan
That's a terrible way to fuck up your face.
steve rannazzisi
Just horrible brass knuckles.
I remember my buddy that wasn't in them bought one, and I was like, what are you doing, man?
joe rogan
It's like there's levels of shit that people try to do.
It's like if you're using a weapon, brass knuckles are a weapon.
You're basically, what are you trying to do?
You're trying to almost kill them, or are you trying to kill them?
What are you trying to do?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because this is like some weird middle ground.
You know?
You can kill someone with brass knuckles, but it's not totally your intent, right?
If you put brass knuckles on, are you trying to beat a guy to death or are you just trying to really kick his ass easy?
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
You know?
steve rannazzisi
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's weird, right?
steve rannazzisi
Yeah.
I mean, there was a kid in my college that got into a fight and then hit a dude with a crowbar.
joe rogan
Oh, God.
steve rannazzisi
And he killed him.
He killed the guy.
The guy died.
It's like, you hit him with a crowbar.
You don't know what you're doing.
He wasn't trying to kill him, but it's like, are you just trying to end it quickly?
That's a horrible result.
You have to know you're an idiot.
brian redban
Can you imagine taking somebody's life?
No.
You took away years and years.
steve rannazzisi
Not when you're not planning on it.
joe rogan
I know a dude who was working as a bouncer, and one of the guys he was working with punched a guy.
And the guy fell down and hit his head on a curb, and that was it.
steve rannazzisi
Yep.
unidentified
Dead.
brian redban
Dead.
That sucks.
joe rogan
One punch.
steve rannazzisi
That sucks.
joe rogan
Just fell fucked up.
You know, when people fall down outside, too, people don't realize that.
When you fall, it's like getting hit by the world, you know?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Imagine if somebody hit you from five feet away with the earth.
You know, going 30 miles an hour or whatever the fuck it is when you fall.
That's what it's like, you know?
That's not good.
When you get knocked out, that's bad.
When you get knocked out and you fall down and smash your head off the concrete, that's way worse.
I've seen dudes many times go into seizures where they lock up and start snoring and making weird noises.
That is so bad for you.
Brass knuckles.
steve rannazzisi
Yeah, brass knuckles.
What else do we have?
joe rogan
What is it with those stores that would sell that shit and then weed pipes?
steve rannazzisi
Bongs, yeah.
joe rogan
Make up your fucking mind, man.
What do you want to do?
steve rannazzisi
Which side of the store are you on?
joe rogan
Do you have butterfly knives?
Remember those butterfly knives?
What was the deal with those stupid things?
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
What a stupid knife.
steve rannazzisi
You have to do a jazz move before you take your knife out.
You're just like, and then you have your fucking knife out.
Just pull out the knife.
Jazz move.
brian redban
I remember as a kid having one of those knife blades that was a comb, and you were allowed to bring it to school.
They didn't have a problem back in all that.
joe rogan
Oh, it was a switchblade comb.
brian redban
You were allowed to bring that to school.
unidentified
I had one of those.
joe rogan
Those were awesome.
But it was just a comb.
Yeah, you thought you were slick as shit when you pulled that bitch out.
steve rannazzisi
It's the same guy that thought of the candy cigarettes.
You're like, what are you doing, man?
joe rogan
What a weird fucking loophole that is.
You can have candy that's a pretend fucking poison.
brian redban
They still sell that.
They still sell those.
joe rogan
Could you imagine if they had candy for kids that said, like, had a skull and crossbones on it, XXX, poison, death, and that was candy.
steve rannazzisi
What if you saw, like, the candy man...
The candy man, the guy...
And the kids were cutting up lines and snorting lines of fucking...
I don't know.
What are you guys doing?
joe rogan
Right.
steve rannazzisi
It's Pop Rocks, dude.
It's the new shit.
joe rogan
It's the new way to do Pez.
brian redban
What?
joe rogan
You smash your Pez up and you stuff it up your nose.
unidentified
I don't know about that.
Sniff them.
brian redban
Sniff them, licks.
unidentified
Right!
Exactly!
What are you doing?
joe rogan
Why is it okay to have candy fucking cigarettes?
steve rannazzisi
Mom, why can't I get one vial of, you know, cool juice that everyone's shooting?
You're shooting juice into your vein?
Everyone does it now, Mom.
joe rogan
It's no big deal.
It's awesome.
It tastes really good.
It stimulates a part of your brain that works on taste and does it through your veins.
Yeah.
What the fuck, man?
Candy cigarettes.
brian redban
What's funny is those candy cigarettes is that they actually sell them, but they can't call them cigarettes anymore.
So they call them candy sticks or something like that.
Oh, really?
So they're a candy stick, but when the end's red, it's lit.
Yeah.
steve rannazzisi
They used to put sugar at the end.
You could blow it, and it would blow out smoke.
brian redban
Oh, I never had the deluxe ones.
steve rannazzisi
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Brian, you did the fake cigarettes for a while, the electronic cigarettes, to try to get off the cigarettes?
brian redban
Yeah, well, it was when they first were starting to come over, like maybe a year and a half, two years ago, when they first started to come over here from overseas.
I had this idea.
I was doing a lot of reviews, tech reviews and stuff.
So I thought, hey, I want to quit smoking.
I want to review this.
So I contacted all these companies and I was like, hey, I want to review these things and make a video out of them.
So all these companies sent me samples and products of their things.
So for a couple weeks straight, I was smoking only electronic cigarettes.
They had a cigar version, too, that you love, the cigar one.
But then I noticed that I was spitting up blood.
steve rannazzisi
Yeah, it's got a chemical in it, right?
brian redban
It's got a chemical used in smoke machines, like dance clubs and stuff like that, like a fog machine.
machine i forget the name of the chemical chemical but what one of the the negative parts about that chemical is is it dries out it will dry you out it'll dry your skin out or if you put it in your throat it will dry your fucking throat out so i was getting like these lesions on my throat from my throat being so fucking dry that i started spitting out blood so i pretty much was like fuck doing a review and i i told all these people that sent me the products like look i'm not going to do this review for you because i don't want i'm just going to bash what you're selling
steve rannazzisi
because bloody throat is a lot different than fucking when inhaling smoke when you ask the company is Were they all electronic cigarette companies?
I know of one when I was trying.
They tried to put these magnets behind your earlobe.
brian redban
What?
steve rannazzisi
Yeah.
They gave me these magnets that you put behind your earlobe.
joe rogan
I've seen that.
What is that?
steve rannazzisi
And then it was supposed to stop.
I don't know what it was supposed to do.
It was supposed to stop your cravings for smoking cigarettes.
Did it work?
I'd never try.
brian redban
I think that sounds like bullshit.
joe rogan
I'm sorry.
This is kind of funny.
This FDA release on these electronic cigarettes is actually kind of funny.
The US Food and Drug Administration today announced that a laboratory analysis of electronic cigarette samples has found that they contain carcinogens and toxic chemicals such as diethylene glycol and ingredient used in antifreeze.
It's amazing that they decided to release this press release.
What they're basically saying is the fake poison is poison.
steve rannazzisi
Yep.
joe rogan
What about the real shit, you fuckheads?
Why are you releasing this on these electronic cigarettes and not clamoring for the removal of cigarettes from fucking stores and grocery stores?
I go to the grocery store and there's a goddamn cigarette carton area where you can buy poison.
You can buy addictive drugs that don't do anything for you.
Or they do something for you.
They stimulate your...
Stephen King said that when he quit cigarettes, his writing actually suffered a little.
steve rannazzisi
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
He had a harder time firing his synapses up.
brian redban
It's probably because 20% of his head is thinking, I want a cigarette.
I want to just go outside and have a cigarette.
steve rannazzisi
You know what?
joe rogan
He says his brain doesn't work as fast.
I mean, I know it's a stimulant.
It does something, you know?
steve rannazzisi
I'm almost a year done.
I quit by hypnosis.
brian redban
Really?
steve rannazzisi
Yeah.
I got hypnotized three times.
On the second one is the one you quit.
I never had a cigarette.
I smoked on the way in.
joe rogan
Whoa.
You smoked on the way in.
They did the hypnosis.
steve rannazzisi
Hypnosis?
joe rogan
The hypnosis thing to me seems to only work if you really truly want it to work.
steve rannazzisi
Exactly.
joe rogan
You prepare for it.
You go in there sort of like under the agreement that you're going to give into this experience and it's going to change you.
And if you believe that, it's almost like a placebo effect for the mind.
steve rannazzisi
Here's how it worked for me.
brian redban
If you can get hypnotized, I can't.
steve rannazzisi
I had said that...
unidentified
You could though.
steve rannazzisi
I was never hypnotized.
Here's how I put it.
If the doctor touched my dick, I would have known about it.
But I was in another area...
I wouldn't have been like, oh, now someone says chicken and I start blowing everyone in the room.
I never got to that point.
I don't know if I could ever be that guy.
But I was in a place, like he would get me to a place where I was thinking about other shit.
And I heard him just being like, you're not a smoker anymore.
This is not part of your life.
And these are things that you don't do anymore.
You don't need cigarettes.
And he just kept repeating this shit.
But I was like, oh, I'm on a beach.
And then look at the fucking tits on that.
And then I'm like all just going off in a different place.
And he just kept talking to me.
And then it would be over.
joe rogan
So you were listening to him and you were fantasizing about other different things?
steve rannazzisi
I was thinking about other things.
Like, he would be like, think about whatever you want to think about.
And then, you know, you start doing, like, I don't want to think about anything.
But yesterday, when Ari told me he didn't want to think about it, Ari.
And then you're all over the place.
You can't not...
You can't not just think about nothing.
So while I'm off thinking about this, he's literally like whispering, but in a soft way, like just these things.
Every once in a while, I'd go back over here and be like, what the fuck are you saying?
And he'd be like, I don't smoke.
Yeah, I don't smoke.
Oh, but I'm back over here.
And he did that for like five or six minutes.
joe rogan
Wow.
steve rannazzisi
To me, that was the entire hypnosis part of it.
But the beginning of it, like, he'd start off every session with, like, I knew I wanted to quit.
I have to want to quit.
But I would go in there and those conversations like, you know, like, oh, you should quit smoking.
Yeah, no, I know, I know.
Well, you know, it's cancer and everything.
Yeah, no, I get it.
It's that conversation that lasts for three minutes that now he's drawing it out for 40 minutes.
He's like, no, no, it's not if you're going to die.
It's when you're going to die.
And your son's going to come visit you in the hospital.
And he's going to go into the room and he's going to see all the tubes going inside of you.
How do you think that's going to make him feel?
Do you think he's going to...
I mean, just painting like worst fucking case scenario.
And then he does the hypnosis thing.
And at the end, it was...
Gave me a little mantra to say whenever I had a craving, and I haven't had a cigarette since the moment I walked out of it.
brian redban
How many times have you thought about it today?
steve rannazzisi
Today, zero.
brian redban
Zero.
unidentified
Wow.
steve rannazzisi
In the first day, 40. Maybe you should do it.
joe rogan
Your problem is, Brian, you're super, super, super skeptical.
You're so skeptical you would never be willing to give in to anything like that.
brian redban
My sister had it done, and she audio-recorded it, and I wish I still had the CD, because I used to listen to it in my car and laugh my ass off.
And it was only one time for her that she went.
And it worked for two months.
But it was just like this chick saying stuff like, ew, cigarettes are going to grow.
They make you look fat.
Ew, you don't want cigarettes.
And my sister was like, I don't remember any of this.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Maybe this is like some lady devised her own technique.
brian redban
Well, they all are their own techniques.
steve rannazzisi
I mean, what do you really have to say?
We could put a phone number right now and say we're hypnosis and then we cure cigarette people.
We'd probably have three people call us tomorrow.
I mean, what credentials do you need to...
I didn't ask for a fucking diploma.
I was in this guy's living room, like a garage area.
There was nothing nice around, but I just got through a referral from another person.
But what do you need to...
You don't need to be a doctor to do hypnosis, do you?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's sort of a sketchy sort of a job.
brian redban
I'll psychiatrize this because most of them don't really exist.
I mean, there's some that are probably...
joe rogan
Psychiatry?
brian redban
I mean, hypnotic people.
joe rogan
Hypnotic.
Hypnotists, not psychiatrists.
Yeah, hypnotists, it's like psychics.
Like, is that real?
You know what I mean?
Like when you drive down the street and you see these fucking houses that a lot of psychics in their house, you know, like psychic readings.
There's a lot down the street.
Like as I'm driving to go get something to eat, I'll see these houses and I think about stopping in.
I did once when I was in New York.
steve rannazzisi
Like a neon sign that says psychic.
You can open it like one in the morning.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
I went in, and it was just a house, you know?
It was just a small house, and it was in Manhattan.
I forget where it was.
Somewhere I was doing an audition, and I had like an hour and a half to kill.
So I'm going to go get a fucking psychic reading.
This bitch couldn't have been more wrong about things in my life.
Like, more wrong.
steve rannazzisi
And how were you?
Were you like, nope?
joe rogan
I said, yeah, no.
You're very close with your father.
I haven't seen him since I was seven.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It was that kind of shit.
It was just the worst.
She was terrible.
I'm like, you're just guessing.
And then I get angry.
I'll go, this is just a guy.
I gave you $20 to fake me out and guess.
I go, okay, thank you.
I learned.
I learned my lesson.
brian redban
Those psychics are just like lazy people that bought a sign.
joe rogan
They're scam artists.
brian redban
They're like, I don't want to leave the house anymore.
I'm just going to be a psychic.
steve rannazzisi
Have they ever answered why if they were psychic, they wouldn't?
Have an office building, I don't know, like GE? Wouldn't they be very wealthy?
Have they ever answered that question?
joe rogan
People have said that you can't use it for personal gain.
I've heard that.
My power cannot be used for personal gain.
steve rannazzisi
What kind of silly, stupid thing is that?
You don't think there's ever going to be one rogue psychic who's going to be like, I'm not following this shit.
unidentified
I'm going to go fucking make a ton of money.
steve rannazzisi
Like Biff in Back to the Future was like, I got this book that tells me what the fucking, who's going to win every sports game and I'm going to bet on it.
joe rogan
And he had like Biff Enterprises in Back to the Future 2. There's been a bunch of different people that have offered huge rewards for anyone to prove psychic ability.
I think Penn and Teller had something going on with that for a while, but they're very vocal about psychics being bullshit, hence the name of their show.
And there's been a bunch of other people, and no one's ever been really able to prove that there's a psychic ability.
The only psychic ability that has been proven, and this is a very odd one, and we all kind of knew about this one, you can tell when people are looking at you.
People can tell.
They can sense when people are looking at you.
You can't figure out what the fucking lottery is.
You're not going to know who's going to win the World Series in 2013. But you can tell when people are looking at you.
It's a weird thing.
It's statistically proven that they've done controlled studies where people were looking in another direction.
They had to say when they thought someone was looking at them.
And it was measurable.
It was a measurable thing.
steve rannazzisi
Even from like behind or like your blind spots.
joe rogan
And I would have to say that in those, any sort of a test situation, that would be the worst time to be using some of that.
Not using some, trying to do that.
Because I would think you'd be so aware that you're in a test.
You'd be so aware, okay, I'm being judged.
steve rannazzisi
Your spidey senses would be on high alert.
joe rogan
Well, not only that, they would be all fucked up.
They'd be all fucked up by this artificial situation where you're monitoring your instincts.
But I have this many times in my life where I was like, what the fuck is going on?
I turn and look and someone's giving me the mad dog.
I'm like, whoa.
steve rannazzisi
I'm going to do my own thing now.
I'm going to be like waiting in a Best Buy, just staring at someone just to see that person.
brian redban
Do your own test.
steve rannazzisi
12, 15, they did not turn around.
joe rogan
I think it's not...
100%?
I think it's probably not even 50%.
But I think there's something there that every now and then pops in when someone can just reach out with their energy and touch you.
And I think it also probably has to do with the kind of intent that they have in their mind while they're staring at you.
I think if someone's staring at you and like...
You know, and they're like, oh, this guy seems like he's got his shit together.
I like the way he dresses, you know?
He's fucking got a cool t-shirt on.
Like, maybe then you're going to be like, you know, let him look at me.
It's cool.
But if you're like, you know, this guy, I think I could fuck him.
I'm pretty sure I could fucking just fold him down.
unidentified
Fucking beat him with a rock and keep him alive while I have to fuck him.
joe rogan
You know what I mean?
Sorry.
Yeah.
Then maybe, you know, it would come up.
brian redban
You'd be like, don't be greedy with that talk.
unidentified
Just to me.
brian redban
You don't have to just give me the eyes when you do that talk.
Steve wants to look.
joe rogan
It's very comfortable for me to look to my left for some reason.
Whenever I have violent thoughts.
steve rannazzisi
That's perfect.
joe rogan
I always try to attack from the left side.
steve rannazzisi
That's good.
joe rogan
I think that there's something to the human mind that is not static.
What we have right now, our abilities right now, are probably evolving.
And our ability to recognize our environment and to tune in to other people, I think that's probably evolving.
You know, they say that just a few thousand years ago, people could not read silently.
This was a trick that someone had learned how to do.
It was one of the saints, and one of the ways this guy proved his sainthood was that he could recite things that he had just read.
He could close the book and he would look at the book and not say anything aloud so they didn't know he was reading.
He would read things and then close the book and then recite what he just read.
And they thought that this guy was a deity.
They thought that he was a priest or they thought that he was a saint because he had this ability that no one else could do.
He could read silently.
It makes sense when you think about it.
Because you remember when you were a little kid, you couldn't read silently.
You would read silently.
Ustream.tv.
You'd have to spell it out.
You'd have to say it.
You'd have to make the noise.
And you'd have to recognize the noise after you make it.
Well, then people learned how to make the noise in their head.
They didn't always know how to do that.
And this is...
It's probably an evolution of language.
An evolution of the way we interface with language.
But it's also like...
It may be something in our minds.
It may be something that we didn't have the ability to process before, and we do now, because the written type and reading is very commonplace, that we have developed this ability to do this.
It's very possible that the minds that we are working with are, you know, much different than the minds of a few thousand years ago.
You know, when there was no There was no mass media, and there was no phones, there was no nothing.
There's always been some weird speculation that people were able to tune into Mother Gaia, that some people were able to tune into the forest, and able to tune into information that comes from all the animals and nature around you.
Like, there was a show, Charles Kuralt on the Road, I know we've talked about this before, but there was a guy who used to live in Alaska, and he said that he was a prospector.
He would live out there by himself for months at a time.
What?
unidentified
What?
Really?
joe rogan
And then when he would come back into town, eventually it would go away.
But he said there wasn't words, but there was a way of communicating with animals that you would have.
Because there was no TV.
There was no radio.
You got tuned into different things.
It sounds totally like horseshit, but...
steve rannazzisi
Dr. Doolittle.
joe rogan
But if you talk to the Indians or the natives in Peru, when they brew this ayahuasca stuff, this psychedelic beverage.
steve rannazzisi
Yeah, Robin Quivers just went down and did it.
joe rogan
Well, the thing about ayahuasca is they've been doing it for 10,000 years, way before written history.
And then you ask them how they learned how to do this.
I mean, the speculation is 10,000 years ago.
The real evidence is probably only like a couple thousand, but...
When they ask these people how they figured out how to do this, they say that the forest told them, that the plants told them how to do this, told them how to make this.
There's over 100,000 different plants in the Amazon.
They figured out how to take the leaves of one and the root and the vines of another and combine them because one of them contains the chemical DMT and the other one contains what's called an MAO inhibitor.
Something called Harmin, because you can't eat this psychedelic stuff, you can't eat DMT, because it exists in so many different things that if you eat it, your body has the ability to break it down inside your stomach with monoamine oxidase.
So this stuff called Harmin, this other plant that produces this natural MAO inhibitor, they have to mix this stuff in, and they have to boil it, and they have to break it down over hours and hours.
How the fuck did these people living on dirt floors and huts with no books, how the fuck Did they ever figure out how to take these plants and put them together?
Well, they say that the forest told them how to do it.
It sounds ridiculous.
steve rannazzisi
Or there's a thousand dead people around.
Nope, not that one.
Don't put those two together.
Can you guys see Frank?
He's fucked, bro.
joe rogan
Yeah, the real question is, when did this information about the forest telling them to do this happen?
Did it happen after they took the ayahuasca?
Because that would make a lot of sense.
steve rannazzisi
And why did they just stop with ayahuasca?
Why wouldn't they just keep, like, give us other good shit, you know?
joe rogan
Dude, you don't need anything else once you do the ayahuasca.
You really don't.
Robin Quivers has talked about it and I've tuned Stanhope into it.
There's a bunch of people that I know that have had DMT in their life.
And once you've done it, Everything else seems completely silly.
Everything.
The economy seems silly.
Your life seems silly.
Driving and traffic seems silly.
Media seems silly.
Everything seems silly and juvenile and temporary.
steve rannazzisi
How long...
What is...
I mean, it's not like a thing where you can go...
You need, like, a week.
joe rogan
Well, you need some time to digest it.
You don't need time to do the drug.
If you smoke DMT, it only takes about 15 minutes.
If you take ayahuasca, the orally active version, it's a less potent version of the experience, but it's over a few hours as opposed to over 15 minutes.
But what it is is the most trippy experience, the most bizarre outside of this world, the most separate experience you could ever possibly have.
And once you've had that, you know, and you start talking about why doesn't he do other things?
Why doesn't he figure out, you know, how to make a fucking jet car?
You know, why don't the plants teach him how to do that?
steve rannazzisi
Yeah.
joe rogan
You just want to go back to that world.
Those fucking people that live in the Amazon, man, they like doing it all the time.
They just do it.
They just tune in to the spirit world and astral travel and fucking illuminant snakes that fly through the air.
steve rannazzisi
Does it make pot different?
Like, can you go back?
Like, can you be like, ah, I wish...
Or is it something like...
You know what I'm saying?
What do you mean?
Does it make, like, the experience of Smoking Pot, like, any different now at all?
joe rogan
I think that...
steve rannazzisi
Or less important or less fun?
joe rogan
Well, I think that you...
First of all, one time I had a flashback after I took it from Smoking Pot.
I've never been able to do it again.
steve rannazzisi
Really?
joe rogan
One time I did DMT, and then a week later...
I was smoking weed and I had a flashback, a real flashback, where I got to the door.
There's a door, like, when you have the DMT experience, it's a very fucked up experience.
And for those of you that are anti-drug and for those of you that are listening to this that are like, you know, what kind of fucking loser is talking about doing drugs?
And we go, what the fuck is this stupid shit?
And this kid's listening.
I think human beings owe an obligation to tell the truth about their experiences.
And there is something to this that's very life-changing.
It changed me, for sure.
It still is changing me.
My DMT experiences for sure have made me a better person, a nicer person, more sensitive, more aware of the universe.
I'm not perfect by any stretch of the imagination.
I'm under a lot of pressure.
Sometimes I snap at people.
I try to keep it all together as much as humanly possible.
But for sure, I'm absolutely different at my core because of having the DMT experience.
All drugs aren't good for you, but some drugs are.
And they're not too good for everybody.
We should have fucking shamans.
We should have places where you could go.
Where you could go to some professional place where this guy is sanctioned by the community.
This is the guy that knows how to do mushrooms.
And you go to this guy's house and he's got brilliant mushrooms and they're all perfect and he grows them himself.
There's nothing sketchy.
And how many mushroom chips have you been on?
A thousand.
Okay.
Alright, a thousand.
unidentified
Shit.
steve rannazzisi
Yeah, you know what you're doing.
joe rogan
How many grams are we going to do today?
Well, this is what we're going to do.
You're going to be in this room, silent darkness.
You're going to do five grams.
I'm going to be outside the door.
I'm going to be totally sober.
I have a phone.
I have a car.
I can take you to the hospital if you need to.
But the freak out is really only in your mind.
And you're going to be fine physically.
Just don't worry about it.
I've been there a thousand times.
Nobody dies from this shit.
And then you can go and do it.
Instead of being over your friend's house and you fucking escape into the woods.
And then you get too fucked up in the woods.
You don't know how to get back to your house.
brian redban
That sounds so much better, the second one, instead of having some creepy dude sitting outside of a bedroom door with a phone ready to call the police on you.
steve rannazzisi
But it's funny, though.
joe rogan
But if it was legal, he wouldn't be calling the police.
steve rannazzisi
Like, I do that now with, like, I called Ari today.
I was like, can you get me some breath strips from going to Vegas?
And he's like, all right, this is the one you're getting.
You take a third if you want this.
You take two thirds if you want that.
Hour to kick in.
Five hours.
And a half hour later, you'll be hungry.
joe rogan
Ari is someone you can trust with that.
You cannot trust Joey Diaz.
unidentified
I know.
steve rannazzisi
I'm telling you.
Take two.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Take two and then call me in an hour and 20 minutes.
steve rannazzisi
Ari's the guy that I ask about that and about mortgage rates.
He's like, don't take it yet.
And I swear to God, it's the two things I trust him the most about.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
steve rannazzisi
To be on time, no.
To pick me up at the airport, no.
To not fuck my wife, probably not.
If he got a chance, he would do it just for the story.
brian redban
So now to use Google, no.
steve rannazzisi
But one time me and Ari, I was driving him home from the comedy store.
And I had to pick something from my house.
And he goes, can I just go into your room?
And I was like...
For the goof, okay.
He gets in the bed and my wife's leaving there.
He gets in the bed.
He just curls up next to her.
joe rogan
No, he didn't.
steve rannazzisi
I'm standing right there.
She goes, what the fuck?
And she smells.
She goes, Ari!
And Ari goes, what?
I thought this was going to be okay.
And I just started laughing.
But you smelt them first.
That's the best part.
joe rogan
Do you have a specific odor?
Do you smell like cinnamon?
steve rannazzisi
Ari has an antique bookstore smell.
unidentified
Yeah, he does.
steve rannazzisi
It's like old socks.
Like that book that you find in the corner when you clean your house.
joe rogan
Ari's one of those dudes that might not shower for a week.
steve rannazzisi
We played basketball on Tuesdays.
We played against each other.
He's like, just to warn you, I haven't showered since Sunday.
brian redban
Are you serious?
steve rannazzisi
So when you take me down low, just remember that the smell, that smell is real.
And it's on purpose.
brian redban
That's so disgusting.
joe rogan
Well, he wonders how he got fucking staph.
This guy, you know, he had this huge fucking thing on his knee.
It was from jujitsu, but it was from not showering, man.
steve rannazzisi
You gotta shower right after.
joe rogan
And not even dealing with it.
Like, he didn't know there was something wrong.
He said he got bit by a spider.
If it wasn't for me noticing that he was limping, he might be dead.
Like, I'm not kidding.
Staph infections can fucking kill you.
They really should have some shit up at every jujitsu gym showing you different swollen things.
See this?
That's a staph infection.
See this?
This is impetigo.
This is herpes.
You can get this shit from the mat.
You've got to be careful.
This is what you've got to do.
Right after you get off the mat, you've got to wash yourself with some probiotic defense soap, eucalyptus oil, tea tree oil, shit like that.
Stuff that kills...
But do it right after you get off the fucking mats.
You don't go home and sit around and eat fucking pizza, you know, like Ari, and then not shower for two more days.
steve rannazzisi
There's the guy who's just too lazy, and then there's the guy that's like, oh, I'm a tough guy, I can go do whatever I want to do after, or I'll go, you know, whatever.
It's like, just be clean.
joe rogan
Ari had a little volcano on his knee, man.
It freaked me out.
Because we were playing pool, and he was limping.
And I go, what's going on?
He told me about the spider bite.
I go, let me see it.
He pulls his pants up and he's got a little red volcano on his knee.
steve rannazzisi
Yeah, and it's hot, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, I go, dude, that's a fucking staph infection.
You need to go to a hospital right now.
I unscrewed my cue.
He's like, you're serious?
I go, I'm deadly serious.
I go, you need to go to a hospital this moment.
Don't wait an hour.
You need to go right now or you could die.
steve rannazzisi
I've had two staph infections in my leg.
brian redban
The fuck?
steve rannazzisi
And they had to put stuff like gauze in there and leave it there for a week and then pull it out.
joe rogan
Yeah.
steve rannazzisi
It was horrible.
brian redban
How'd you get it?
Basketball.
It's all about sports.
That's why I've never had a staph infection.
joe rogan
Well, it's really washing yourself afterwards.
It's also taking probiotics.
You've got to take a bunch of different probiotics.
You know what I like this probiotic?
Kimchi.
Pickled cabbage.
If you get that from...
It's delicious.
steve rannazzisi
Is it good?
joe rogan
Yeah, I love it.
brian redban
Sounds awesome.
steve rannazzisi
I'm not a cabbage fan.
brian redban
I'm not a big pickle fan.
Funny cabbage rules.
What's wrong with you?
joe rogan
You've got to try some.
I'll give you some afterwards.
brian redban
Oh, sauerkraut and cabbage.
joe rogan
It's spicy though.
It's like a spicy Korean cabbage.
But you can get it at some organic places and it's probiotic.
What they do is they take the cabbage and they leave it out for like a few days and then you pickle it with a bunch of different things.
I don't know exactly the whole process.
But the whole idea is that getting live organisms into your body that are healthy.
You know, that's like really important to do after you've had a colonic, if you want to get water blown into your asshole.
steve rannazzisi
I've done it twice.
joe rogan
Have you done the colonic?
brian redban
I've heard it's bullshit.
joe rogan
I'm thinking about doing it.
steve rannazzisi
I did it twice.
joe rogan
I've heard it's bullshit and I've heard it's awesome.
I don't know what's true.
steve rannazzisi
I did it today.
It was a tough...
This one lady...
This is going to be awful.
unidentified
All right.
steve rannazzisi
This one lady did it.
The first lady that I went to, right?
She did it and it didn't hurt that bad.
It wasn't as awkward as I thought it was going to be.
So I made a point with this lady to do it again.
They call me, like, this lady's tough to get, so you have to want her.
I'm like, yeah.
My wife's water breaks.
But I had the colonic appointment that day.
But it just broke.
And I'm like, look, the doctor said you're supposed to chill out, relax, take a shower.
I'm gonna go run, get my colonic, and I'll be back.
And she's like, you're gonna keep it?
I go, this lady's so tough to get.
And I got it.
joe rogan
Oh my god!
steve rannazzisi
And I'm like, I know you have at least two hours.
joe rogan
You're so crazy.
steve rannazzisi
And I ran and did the colonic.
I go, now we both know.
We both have had shit pulled from, everything's gonna be, we're on the even playing field now.
Everything's gonna be good.
I still better go.
joe rogan
Your shit and her baby are not the same.
steve rannazzisi
I know.
brian redban
How L.A.? How L.A.? I had to run because my kid's getting about to be delivered back.
steve rannazzisi
I knew I had time.
I knew it.
I mentally prepared for this fucking thing.
joe rogan
You went straight Hollywood, son.
brian redban
On the way back, I grabbed a soy latte.
steve rannazzisi
Never had coffee.
joe rogan
Wow.
Yeah, he's not a coffee drinker.
steve rannazzisi
No.
joe rogan
What about coffee enemas?
What's that all about?
steve rannazzisi
I don't know.
joe rogan
People stuffing coffee up their assholes.
unidentified
What does that mean?
Coffee enemas?
steve rannazzisi
I don't understand what the- You never heard of that?
brian redban
No.
joe rogan
Yeah, ground coffee.
Somehow or another they take coffee and they pump it up their asshole.
I don't know what that's about.
It's supposed to be good for you.
steve rannazzisi
How do you get it up your asshole?
joe rogan
I guess you use like one of those things that you use to blow air on a fireplace.
brian redban
What are those things called?
joe rogan
Fireplace bellows.
steve rannazzisi
In the beginning, I was like, oh, he knows.
Oh, no, that's not right.
That thing isn't right.
brian redban
That's not right.
joe rogan
Maybe a turkey baster.
You could have a big-ass turkey baster stuffing up your ass.
steve rannazzisi
Why coffee?
And how many different things?
brian redban
Because of the caffeine, probably?
joe rogan
People, look, man, the same people that invented ayahuasca, they said, what happens when you pour coffee up your ass?
What's next?
Let's combine these two things.
I don't know, man.
I guess it would just go right into your bloodstream.
There's a woman online.
Her YouTube name, I think, is Neuro Soup.
about taking DMT up her ass. - What? - She put DMT up her ass, and there it goes right into your bloodstream, 'cause it's open, as opposed to if you eat it, and it has to go through your stomach and everything.
So she takes this DMT up her ass, and has this 30 minute trip, as opposed to like a 15 minute trip.
You know, she probably got some fucking insane dose.
Because when you smoke it, you know, you're breaking it down.
It's got to go into your lungs.
I mean, it's probably much less than if you actually inject it right into your asshole.
steve rannazzisi
You mainline it into your asshole.
unidentified
People will try anything to get high.
joe rogan
I mean, how about those fucking assholes that get arrested and they have paint all over their face?
steve rannazzisi
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because they've been puffing bags of paint.
brian redban
Oh, God.
I used to do keyboard cleaner back in the day.
unidentified
You did?
joe rogan
You did keyboard cleaner?
brian redban
Yeah.
It was like the shit that you sprayed on your keyboards to clean and stuff.
And it was like whippets, pretty much.
Like you would do it, and then you'd start hearing the wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah thing.
And I remember I was with my friend, and he gets so pissed when I say this, but I was with my friend, and he was like, I'm a badass.
We're driving this little CRX, and he fucking does it while we're driving, and we're coming up to...
joe rogan
Wait, who's driving?
You or him?
brian redban
No, he is.
steve rannazzisi
He's driving.
brian redban
Yeah, he pulls it out.
And I'm like, what the fuck are you doing?
unidentified
He goes, dude, don't worry about it.
brian redban
I'm not doing a lot.
And he fucking passes out.
steve rannazzisi
What?
brian redban
Foot goes on the gas.
steve rannazzisi
Just like this.
He's like, hey, man.
He's just fucking here.
Pulling his head up.
brian redban
Yeah.
unidentified
Weekend of Bernie's style.
joe rogan
What a fucking great quote.
unidentified
Don't worry, I'm not doing a lot!
brian redban
And he passes that foot on the gas and was going up on a railroad track.
So you couldn't see if a car was coming on the other side of the railroad track.
So I was freaking out and I pulled up his emergency brake and he skidded out and crashed his car.
And the first thing he comes through, he goes, what the fuck happened?
And he goes, what the Fuck, man, my car!
I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about doing this shit, passing out with your foot on the gap?
joe rogan
Wait a minute, he was mad at you?
brian redban
He was mad at me.
steve rannazzisi
And I was like, yeah, here's what you should have done.
brian redban
Fuck you, dude.
steve rannazzisi
I don't know how close you are with this guy, but you should have rolled out of the car and let Destiny fucking take care of this guy.
joe rogan
Yeah, you should have gone Steve Austin style.
steve rannazzisi
This guy should have just been like, whatever happens, happens.
And if he dies, he dies.
joe rogan
Rolling out of the car is dangerous as fuck.
That shit doesn't really work.
You hit your head on the concrete.
It looks awesome in the movies, but the reality of rolling out of the car...
steve rannazzisi
Yeah, horrible.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're basically falling onto the concrete at 30 miles an hour.
Or whatever the fuck.
You're faster going.
How fast were you going when you crashed?
brian redban
Probably not.
I mean, we were probably going 25 when you did it.
And then we probably went up to like 45 when...
You stomped on the gas?
It was like...
joe rogan
Oh my god.
brian redban
It was scary as fuck.
joe rogan
Where's that dude now?
brian redban
Well, he joined the Air Force, and then he...
steve rannazzisi
He's one of the Special Six.
joe rogan
He's sealed Team Six.
They killed the frozen Bin Laden.
brian redban
And he came out of the closet and told everyone except me, which is odd.
And then now he works for a company.
joe rogan
So he's gay.
brian redban
Yeah, but he hasn't told his parents or anyone.
He's told all my friends except me.
steve rannazzisi
No wonder he did so much drugs.
He's trying to mask.
joe rogan
Yeah, I guess that's probably what it is, right?
steve rannazzisi
Yeah, he's probably going, I want to blow Brian so bad.
unidentified
I can't, I can't.
I gotta just get high.
steve rannazzisi
I just gotta stay fucking...
Something's gotta go...
Gotta change what's going on in my brain for me.
joe rogan
There was a study that somebody put up on the Rogan board, on the message board, about the increase, the number of people that are gay that have cancer as opposed to straight people.
And there's a much higher percentage of gay people.
Yeah, and we were trying to speculate what the fuck that is, whether it's drugs, because gay people party their asses off.
You know, especially young gay dudes, they party like fucking crazy.
steve rannazzisi
Every night of the week, too.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's no like Sunday off.
steve rannazzisi
Like Santa Monica Boulevard, like those bars and stuff, it's like Mardi Gras.
Every night.
brian redban
Yeah, I went to this place called The Abbey here in Los Angeles, which is one of the bigger ones, I guess.
I went with a bunch of girls, and it was like 2 in the afternoon on a Sunday, full party.
I mean, hundreds and hundreds of people drunk, like, partying their asses on parades.
joe rogan
Yeah, they don't give a fuck.
steve rannazzisi
No.
joe rogan
It looks like a fun life, except for all the AIDS and cancer and blood sex.
brian redban
Yeah.
You know, it's not fun.
It's great going, like Ari Shaffir's all joke, it's great going being a straight guy, because all the chicks there are thinking everyone's gay, so they're like, oh!
joe rogan
They're never going to trust you.
They're always going to think you're partially gay.
brian redban
Right.
But going into the bathroom, though, is like the worst experience because there's not only drug use, like, fucking everywhere.
People doing cocaine on the sinks and everything like that.
But, like, the stall is just one of those big, like, big bathtubs.
steve rannazzisi
Yeah.
brian redban
And it's just like, all right.
steve rannazzisi
You make it feel like it's Woodstock.
You have fun while you're there because you get to hear Hendrix, but you come out filthy.
joe rogan
The stall's a bathtub?
What do you mean?
brian redban
You know like those urinal stalls?
unidentified
Oh, what are those?
brian redban
No dividers.
steve rannazzisi
They don't care.
unidentified
Oh, those are weird.
joe rogan
What are those weird?
unidentified
Those troughs?
joe rogan
Those you get a lot on the road.
If you're in some weird bar in like Oklahoma, you'll get a lot of those troughs.
steve rannazzisi
You know what?
They have those at Fenway.
joe rogan
Do they?
steve rannazzisi
Those troughs, yeah.
joe rogan
Makes sense.
steve rannazzisi
Those dirty animals.
joe rogan
Just give them somewhere nonspecific to pee.
Fucking savages.
steve rannazzisi
Just show me a hole to put my piss into.
Doesn't matter what it looks like.
brian redban
One of the worst times ever, I used to be a manager of this coffee shop called Perfect Cup Cappuccino.
It was when Cappuccino just became big in the United States.
There was all these coffee shops popping up everywhere.
And right next door to it was one of the grossest gay bars in Columbus, Ohio.
And this is like goth gay.
This is like fucking the worst gay ever.
joe rogan
What is goth gay?
Do they have that?
Is that a style?
brian redban
I don't know.
steve rannazzisi
They hate everything.
They hate everything.
unidentified
It's awful.
steve rannazzisi
Other gay people, themselves, their parents, everything.
brian redban
And the woman that owned this place, God bless her, she was just like this fucking cute little old lady that her husband died, so she died.
She was bored and sad, so she took all her money to get this nice little coffee shop.
And so she's training me to be like a manager of this place.
And there's this window looking in the backyard of this building, which is like an alley.
And she goes, now I made this little curtain, and she sewed this curtain to put it over the window at certain times.
She's like, sometimes you're going to have to shut this curtain because of this place next door.
I'm like, what is she talking about?
Now, this job I worked at was fucking awful.
I would come there at 5 a.m.
and work until 2 p.m.
every single day.
And there would be guys passed out in the back.
unidentified
Oh!
brian redban
Of this gay bar that just like had sex out in the back of the alley and then passed out on the ground.
And so one time I just sit there and listen to Howard Stern for hours.
That was my only thing to do.
No one ever came into this coffee shop.
So one time I'm like making chicken salad or something in the back of the place.
I look and there's just fucking three guys.
Completely naked.
Fucking butt sex.
There's fucking needles everywhere.
steve rannazzisi
Fuck a curtain.
You should wall that fucking window up, dude.
joe rogan
Just put a wall and fill it up with cement.
steve rannazzisi
Gee, I wonder why no one went into your coffee shop.
You're listening to Stern and there's a butt fuck going on next door.
Welcome sign out front.
brian redban
Felt so bad.
steve rannazzisi
Jesus, man.
brian redban
I was like, she wanted a logo and she was going to pay me.
I was like, you know what?
I'll just make the logo for you.
I just felt so bad for this.
I only lasted like a month there, but I just became so depressed.
joe rogan
Why are you just depressed?
It sounds like they were having a good time.
brian redban
No, because it was so awful.
It was just, like, those people would then come after having butt sex every morning, these homeless butt sex guys.
They'd come in and get coffees every day, and they would just, like, hang out and smell, like, butt sex and fucking Ari.
And they're like...
Oh, God.
unidentified
Old books.
brian redban
Old books and it was just the grossest like it looked like a country kitchen with butt-sex homeless people.
joe rogan
It's weird how gay dudes will totally take over a neighborhood.
They tell everybody hey man I'm moving here why don't you move here too and I'll just fuck all day.
They get like a whole group of them.
Lesbians have never figured out how to rock that.
They can't really organize the way gay dudes can.
Gay dudes can take over whole neighborhoods.
We're going to San Francisco this weekend, by the way.
Cobbs Comedy Club.
brian redban
What made you think of San Francisco?
joe rogan
Almost sold out, bitches.
Because there's a lot of butt sex going on in San Francisco.
Son...
Cobb's Comedy Club this Thursday, Friday, and Saturday with Sam Tripoli.
Oh, shit!
And Tom Segura.
It's a fucking double whammy, folks.
unidentified
That's gonna be fucking good.
joe rogan
Two headliners open up for me.
steve rannazzisi
That's amazing.
unidentified
It is amazing.
joe rogan
Yeah, dude.
Those guys are killers.
We're gonna have a good fucking time.
But, you know, there's areas of San Francisco that are, like, hugely gay.
I think Santa Monica Boulevard, though, tops it.
As far as, like, exclusively gay.
steve rannazzisi
It's the gayest place on the planet.
joe rogan
It's like the epicenter of homo.
steve rannazzisi
It's bigger than even Chelsea down in New York.
I think it's close.
There's just so many people in New York.
joe rogan
And it's so concentrated.
steve rannazzisi
But West Hollywood, it's just like...
There's no rolling into West Hollywood and being like, what are you fucking guys doing here?
It's like, no, what the fuck are you doing here, bro?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Exactly.
steve rannazzisi
The gay flag is our flag of Santa Monica Boulevard.
It's like, this is our place.
joe rogan
When you drive by Rage, have you ever driven by Rage on a Friday and Saturday night?
steve rannazzisi
Dude, it's like Carnival outside.
People are just going crazy.
joe rogan
It certainly seems like they're having more fun.
brian redban
I picked up one of those newspapers that had all the hookers and escorts and stuff like that, and they have whole pages with trannies.
And one of the things that says on it is 100% working, fully functional trannies.
Does that mean they got the vagina and now the vagina works so you can fuck it?
joe rogan
I don't think so.
I think they have a dick.
brian redban
Oh, so that's what's fully functioning.
joe rogan
If I had to guess, I would say that their dick still works, but they're transvestite, not a transsexual.
Because when you say trannies, I think transsexual is like, they want to be a woman.
But a transvestite, they want to be a man dressed as a woman.
steve rannazzisi
Yeah, transsexuals are probably the people that are starting the process of becoming the younger gender.
joe rogan
That's possible too, but some of them are just dudes that just for whatever weird reason like to dress up like girls.
steve rannazzisi
Like Chaz Bono is...
What, a transsexual?
joe rogan
I don't know, but I almost had to watch that.
I had to take Mrs. Rogan somewhere, and I was in a waiting room for an hour, and I was watching Good Morning America, and then they were talking about Oprah being on Next.
You know, and not Next, it was like 3 p.m., and I was like, God damn it, I might have to watch this.
They keep teasing me with this Chaz Bono thing.
I want to see this story.
I want to know the real truth.
steve rannazzisi
You won't get it from Oprah.
joe rogan
I want to get it from listening to her talk.
If I get it, I might get it from listening to him.
steve rannazzisi
Oh, just hearing the answers of the questions she asked.
joe rogan
It's got to be that she was ignored.
That's the only thing that makes sense.
brian redban
I get to see your wife's like, all right, let's go.
And I'm like, no, I got to watch the rest of this Oprah.
joe rogan
I understand.
steve rannazzisi
I have it taped at home.
joe rogan
I understand lesbians because I think women are hot.
I get it.
brian redban
You do too.
I get that too.
joe rogan
I get it.
It makes sense to me.
steve rannazzisi
And her girlfriend, wait, his, I don't know, Chaz's girlfriend is cute.
She's a cute girl.
brian redban
Really?
steve rannazzisi
Yeah.
joe rogan
She's got a name.
unidentified
She's got a name.
joe rogan
She's got a name, bro.
She's got some fucking pull.
It must work in the lesbian community as well.
steve rannazzisi
Yeah, she's a very popular...
I mean, when your mom, no matter what you are, is Cher, that's still pretty good.
joe rogan
Yeah, Cher and Sonny Bono.
steve rannazzisi
Yeah.
joe rogan
Not bad.
Not bad.
It's a story.
It's worth saying.
Who are you dating this year?
Chaz Bono, huh?
steve rannazzisi
Chaz Bono, huh?
Yeah, that's interesting.
joe rogan
But what I was going to say is, I understand wanting to be gay.
I don't understand wanting to be the other sex.
But maybe it's just my own mind.
brian redban
Don't knock until you try it, Joe.
joe rogan
Exactly.
Maybe some dudes are just wired a certain way.
I have a friend whose son is becoming a girl.
steve rannazzisi
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Yeah, his son is just turning 18 and wants to be a girl.
So he's going through all the different steps.
But this poor fuck is in a bad situation.
He's in the middle of a crazy divorce and all kinds of other shit.
But just the idea of your son wanting to be a girl, like, you know, like, fuck, man.
brian redban
What does Holtzman say about it?
unidentified
Hey!
joe rogan
Easy!
Easy, son!
That's actually, he's joking around.
That's a Holtzman joke.
One of his best.
I used to call that out from the back of the room all the time.
brian redban
I miss that.
joe rogan
I miss that guy.
I miss those days at the Comedy Store, man.
We had some good fucking times in that club.
A lot of bad energy, but a lot of good times.
You know what I heard that's hilarious?
steve rannazzisi
What?
joe rogan
Two different people have told me this story.
That Tommy said that he used to be an actor, and he wanted to be an actor, but too many homos were hitting on him.
steve rannazzisi
Of course!
Used to run an all-male review dance show down in Tampa, I think it was, Jacksonville, Florida.
joe rogan
Really?
steve rannazzisi
And yeah, he truly wanted to become an actor.
joe rogan
He was an all-male review guy?
What does that mean?
steve rannazzisi
He would host the all-male review dance show.
So it was like a gay strip show.
And he would host it?
Yeah, but he never liked when the gays came on to him.
brian redban
Wow.
joe rogan
So that's why he stayed out of acting?
steve rannazzisi
So that's why, yeah.
It was him and Johnny Depp, I think, are the two most irresistible...
Don't you think Johnny Depp would have been the guy that's like, look, I'm not getting into acting because I get hit on all the time.
Like, if Johnny Depp's cool with it, I think Tommy Morris should be cool with it.
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
You know, Johnny Depp, I have a special affection for that guy.
steve rannazzisi
He's just, you know what?
joe rogan
I like him.
steve rannazzisi
I like him, too.
I saw the...
joe rogan
He's legit.
steve rannazzisi
The Pirates of the Caribbean.
First of all, he looks like he's 18 years old.
He looks like he can still do 21 Jump Street.
He's like 50. I've never seen anything like it.
joe rogan
And he smokes cigarettes.
steve rannazzisi
Yeah.
It's just crazy.
Because it's France.
He lives in France.
joe rogan
Is that what it is?
steve rannazzisi
He lives in France.
brian redban
He comes on his own face.
joe rogan
He lives in France and just, is his wife French or something like that?
steve rannazzisi
Yeah, his wife French.
joe rogan
I'm a big fan of him ever since I found out he was a big fan of Hunter S. Thompson.
And then when he did Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.
unidentified
He was great.
joe rogan
He was good.
He was very good.
Bill Murray was actually better.
Bill Murray did Where the Buffalo Rooms.
He played Hunter S. Thompson in that.
Fucking genius.
He nailed it.
But the movie was not as good.
Fear and Loathing was a much better movie.
unidentified
Overall.
joe rogan
Yeah, but I don't think Johnny Depp's voice worked.
Like, there's certain impressions I can't do.
You know, I can't.
I try and my voice doesn't work that way.
And some people just can't do, like, Johnny Depp sounds like he's trying to sound like a version of Hunter S. Thompson, but Bill Murray sounds like Hunter S. Thompson.
But then when I found out that Johnny Depp lived in Hunter's basement and fucking stayed with him for fucking weeks and weeks trying to work on the whole impression of him.
steve rannazzisi
Oh my god.
Dude, listen to this.
I was on a plane yesterday back from New York and Sally Field was sitting next to me.
So she was very nice and she was reading a book and at one point she stopped and we got into a conversation.
She's playing.
She's in this new movie where she's playing Abraham Lincoln's wife.
And Steven Spielberg is directing it.
And Daniel Day-Lewis is playing Abraham Lincoln.
unidentified
Oh, shit.
steve rannazzisi
So I said, I gotta ask you.
I said, just let me know if you can't answer it.
I go, has he started the process yet?
And she goes, yup.
And the way she said it, it was like, somewhere in the world, there's a man walking around right now.
Thinking that he is Abraham fucking Lincoln.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's what Daniel Day-Lewis does.
steve rannazzisi
That's how gangster and crazy Daniel Day-Lewis gets into that shit.
Where it's like months and months and months in advance, he is preparing.
So that when he's there, that's all he is.
joe rogan
You know when he filmed There Will Be Blood, he slept in a tent on the set?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Remember he got all greasy and shit?
That's how he got into it.
That's how he got into his role.
He just became that guy.
steve rannazzisi
Just crazy.
joe rogan
He's, in my opinion, the best.
He's the best.
steve rannazzisi
And there's a reason why he only does a movie once every three years, because it takes that fucking, in his mind, I don't know if it always will, but right now it takes that to get to there, and it's like, fuck it, just do what you want to do.
joe rogan
Did you ever see that movie where he played a boxer?
steve rannazzisi
Yeah.
joe rogan
The best boxing fight scenes.
It's called a boxer, right?
I think it was.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
The best boxing fight scenes in any movie ever.
The most believable.
And I heard that Mark Wahlberg knew how to box.
I've heard that before.
steve rannazzisi
What did you think of that?
I was going to ask you.
joe rogan
It was a good movie, but I felt like it was a little flat, and I felt like the fight scenes looked fake as fuck.
It's like, I'm doing this movie right now called Here Comes the Boom.
It's Kevin James' mixed martial arts movie.
unidentified
Oh, cool.
joe rogan
It's a comedy, and it's also mixed martial.
The fucking fight scenes are off the chain.
steve rannazzisi
Really?
joe rogan
They've got Ryan Parsons is helping him out there, and this dude Darryl, who's the fight coordinator, and, you know, Boss Rootin's helping him, too.
And they came up with these amazing fight fucking...
These sequences are...
They look so realistic and so good and so well shot and so dynamic and it keeps your interest.
Like I watched one of this Mayhem, Jason Mayhem Miller and Kevin James fight and I watched the fight and I'm like, this is fucking well done!
steve rannazzisi
Really?
joe rogan
Like, it's totally realistic.
Like, the scenario's realistic.
But it's also, like, the way they shot it is super dynamic.
They're always moving.
Whereas I looked at the fighter, and I'm like, this seems flat.
It's like, this is like, we're watching Rocky 2, man.
I've seen this before.
I've seen these exact same scenes of this guy punching the other guy, and...
steve rannazzisi
I think those kind of directors choose to do it like what they would consider artfully, where they're just going to keep the camera on it and let the action...
It's like you need to see different angles.
That's why watching fights live is amazing, but even on television, you cut to different angles.
When a guy's in this position, they can go around the other side, and it's cool to see those different things, whereas those artsy movies are like, well, we're just going to keep the camera there and let the...
joe rogan
Well, I think respectfully, Mark Wahlberg did not imitate...
Mickey Ward's style.
He just didn't.
He threw a decent left hook to the body.
That looked okay.
But Mickey Ward had a very particular way of holding his hands.
He had a very particular style of throwing his feints and his movement.
It was very easy to watch.
Anderson Silva is awesome at imitating fighters.
There's all these videos online of him imitating Lyoto Machida and imitating Chuck Liddell.
Fighters have styles.
They have a certain way they move.
And you can't just be you in a Boston accent and you call your name Mickey.
No, you have to move like Mickey Ward moved.
You have to box the way Mickey Ward boxed.
steve rannazzisi
Which is why I thought...
joe rogan
You can't have your chin up in the air and throwing punches like a guy who's never been punched in the face.
Because that's what I'm watching.
I'm watching a guy throw punches in a boxing match that's not like the way a guy throws punches in a boxing match.
Maybe to me, I'm an extremist because one of my jobs is to watch fighting and analyze it and break it down.
But I'm watching this and I'm like, you didn't even try, man.
You didn't even try.
If I was your friend, if I was Mark Wahlberg's friend, I'd be like, yo, dude, this is a fucking...
Mickey Ward is one of those guys, especially in Boston, that...
And that's where he's from.
That's where Wahlberg's from, too.
There's a legend to that guy.
He's an all-time great Boston character.
His fights have the display of courage and will.
Those are all-time spectacular moments in boxing.
You owe a lot more than that, man.
You've got to work on that style.
steve rannazzisi
And I also hope they don't do...
Well, first of all, I thought that...
What's-his-name-is-the-brother was fucking unbelievable.
unidentified
Brilliant.
steve rannazzisi
Brilliant.
joe rogan
Dickie Eklund.
steve rannazzisi
Yeah, because...
He knew the boxing, and you could tell that he probably didn't come from a boxing background, so whatever he started with was from fresh and to the point he got, I thought it was really good.
joe rogan
It was decent.
steve rannazzisi
He also embodied the guy very, very well.
joe rogan
Very well.
steve rannazzisi
I hope they don't do that.
Let's talk about them doing Fighter 2, where they'll get an Arturo Gatti out there.
unidentified
We're trying to find...
steve rannazzisi
Really?
joe rogan
Is there a talk about that?
steve rannazzisi
I've heard...
I don't know.
I've heard just through different channels.
joe rogan
Well, I hope they do do that.
steve rannazzisi
That would be stupid to me.
joe rogan
You say that, but what if they did a good job of it?
Who the fuck knows?
I never would have thought this one moved...
This was a good movie.
And Wahlberg is a good actor when he's acting.
But I just felt like in his fight scenes, I just felt like it wasn't enough like Mickey Ward.
And it wasn't realistic enough, man.
You know, you guys got to hit each other a little.
You know, I want to see you really get hit, man.
I want to see a little pat.
I want to see a slap.
I want to see a fucking jab knock your hair back, man.
I want to see it real.
I mean, this isn't real to me.
This is like, oh, here's the fight scene in the movie.
My heart didn't move at all.
When I watched that Kevin James thing, Kevin James and Mayhem, just the pure artistic version, like what they did, their version of the fight scene, I was like, these motherfuckers thought this shit out.
There's a camera on his chest while they're grappling.
There's like this wild shot of him getting belly-to-belly suplex from a camera on his chest.
Like, dude, it's good.
It's interesting.
It cuts from a bunch of different angles, and it looks like they're really fighting.
brian redban
What kind of shape is he in right now?
joe rogan
He's got an incredible shape.
steve rannazzisi
Did he really?
joe rogan
He lost 80 fucking pounds.
brian redban
What?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Kevin...
Kevin James went on this all vegan, all live, all raw foods diet.
And he went on it a while ago.
This woman who wrote this book that Mrs. Rogan's reading right now.
And she's doing it too.
And some all raw foods, all like kale blended up and all this different shit.
And when Kevin was on that movie, the, what's that called?
The Dilemma?
With Vince Vaughn?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Vince and him became pals.
And Vince is like, bro, you know.
You're fucking really heavy.
You've got to do something.
But Kevin's like, I know.
I've been friends with Kevin for 20 years, and he's been struggling with his weight for 20 years.
steve rannazzisi
We did Ball Cop together, and we would drive home together in Boston, and we would eat all day.
He had his own chef and stuff, and we'd eat well all day, and then we would hit McDonald's, Burger King, whatever.
It would be like $30, the bill, for two people.
I'm not kidding you, man.
brian redban
Sounds like Joe Rogan.
steve rannazzisi
He would kill it.
joe rogan
I could fuck up some food, son.
steve rannazzisi
And he was so cool about it.
He'd be like, yeah, this is fucking good.
You'd just be eating it.
joe rogan
He doesn't have shame in it.
Kevin's a very, very honest dude.
But he also realized, like, God, I've got to do something about this.
So it's been nine months.
He's had no meat for nine months.
Everything has been all raw, vegan, everything super, super healthy.
But he's ready to go off like a rocket.
As soon as his filming's over, he's going to eat a whole cow.
steve rannazzisi
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, he's going to go straight to Ruth's Chris.
That's a wrap.
She's going to be a car that's going to drive him straight to Ruth's Chris Steakhouse.
He's going to get a fucking T-bone and mashed potatoes with gravy.
But he's lost a tremendous amount of weight.
steve rannazzisi
80 pounds.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Kevin has always had real martial arts skills.
I'm going to try to get him to do the podcast because I'm doing the movie.
I'm going to be with him for nine days.
And I'm going to try to get him to do the podcast.
But he's like...
Super private, man.
He doesn't like to talk about shit publicly.
He doesn't like to do exposing interviews.
The opposite of me, where I'll tell you exactly what I'm thinking about everything, he's not that kind of a guy.
He's a little bit more laid back.
It's hard to get him to...
I don't know if he's willing to do an interview like that, but the story is very interesting.
He's lost 80 fucking pounds.
He looks fantastic.
His face is all thin.
He's still a little fat.
He's not shredded.
He doesn't look like Anderson Silva.
brian redban
Yeah, he doesn't look like I saw Mayhem recently and now it makes sense why he's so thick.
Mayhem's just gotten thick lately too.
joe rogan
Well, it's because Mayhem hasn't fought in a long time.
Mayhem got fucked.
These Strikeforce morons.
Because Mayhem got in a fight, there was a fight where Jake Shields beat Dan Henderson.
Awesome fight.
and it was a big event on CBS.
The whole CBS event, though, was a disaster because their production was so unorganized that they went way, way, way over the time.
An hour and a half or something over their allotted time.
So they went into the news, they went past the news, they went into some other show that was on past the news.
It was so bad.
The UFC's never done anything remotely like this ever.
I mean, they just don't know what they're doing.
They were real raw in the game.
And anyway, Mayhem and Jake Shields had fought to a very close decision.
It was a really good fight.
And at one point in time, Mayhem had Jake Shields back with a rear naked choke in and Jake was going out I mean, it was locked in.
It was a wrap.
There was no way Mayhem was letting go.
He was palm to palm.
He had the forearm across the neck.
Jake was turning red.
Boom.
The bell rang.
And he wanted a rematch, so they let Mayhem in the cage.
And Mayhem interrupted the interview between Jake Shields and the commentator, Gus Johnson, and said, How about my rematch?
And then Jake Shield's buddy said, get the fuck out of here.
And then Nick Diaz and Nate Diaz and Jake and Gilbert Melendez.
It turned into a fucking brawl on CBS. Well, they blamed Mayhem.
Meanwhile, Mayhem didn't throw the first punch.
Mayhem got beat up.
He was on his back, and they were kicking him in the head.
And they're blaming him.
And so they wouldn't let him fight again.
He couldn't fight on Showtime, and he couldn't fight on CBS. And they didn't tell him.
So they were pussies about it.
So for a fucking year, this guy's been sitting on the bench.
steve rannazzisi
Sitting around doing nothing.
joe rogan
So he's been lifting and he's been getting bigger.
You know, when you don't have to make 185 pounds, you just eat whatever the fuck you want to eat.
You don't have anything on the horizon.
You know, he gets big.
Ma'am's a big boy.
He could fight 205 if he wanted to.
You know, he can walk around easy at like 220, 225. But, you know, at 85, he's big as fuck.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
So he's going to be fighting in the UFC now.
He's going to be fighting July 2nd again.
Aaron Simpson.
You want to go?
brian redban
Oh, fuck yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, shit!
You're in!
brian redban
Sweet.
joe rogan
You want to go?
steve rannazzisi
I can't.
joe rogan
No?
steve rannazzisi
No, it's July 2nd now.
joe rogan
It's July 2nd.
steve rannazzisi
Can't do it.
brian redban
Kalanick Day!
steve rannazzisi
Got a Kalanick for 10-15.
joe rogan
Big fuck-up this weekend, man.
Gray Maynard and Frankie Edgar, the fight's canceled.
steve rannazzisi
What happened?
joe rogan
Five-round championship fight, that's the main event, are canceled.
Why?
Gray Maynard, apparently, it hurt his knee, but he was going to fight anyway.
You know, because it was for a title shot, so he was going to figure out how to just nurse his knee.
You know, it's three weeks away.
But Frankie Edgar broke his ribs.
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
And when his ribs are broken, there's no way.
He's fucked.
Anderson Silva actually fought Chael Sonnen with a broken rib.
It was either a broken rib or a separated rib.
There was something wrong with his rib.
But he took it anyway.
I guess he felt like he could still pull it off, and he did.
But with Edgar, apparently it was too bad.
He couldn't do anything.
So Frankie Edgar and Gray Maynard is going to be moved to somewhere around...
I think they said, depending on how everybody heals up, it'll be like late summer, early fall, somewhere around then.
So now I don't know who the main event is.
I think it's going to be Rampage versus Matt Hamill.
brian redban
Nice.
joe rogan
Rick Story versus Tiago Alves is a big fight on that card, too.
That's a fucking nasty fight.
steve rannazzisi
With the UFC buying Strikeforce, is there going to be more events now, or just bigger events when you do events?
joe rogan
It's a good question.
As of right now, it's two different companies.
As of right now, they own both, and so they can bring guys over.
They brought Mayhem over to the UFC because they own both of them.
If you fucks aren't going to fight them, this guy's one of the most popular fighters in the world, and you idiots aren't fighting him.
What kind of nonsense is that?
brian redban
That's so awesome.
I'm so glad that he's going to be in the UFC finally.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
It'll be huge for him.
It'll be huge.
And you know what?
He should have been in the UFC a long time ago.
The real problem with Strikeforce is what...
I don't remember who said this, but it's very astute.
They said that when you watch Strikeforce, what was awesome about it was you guys see a lot of knockouts and a lot of submissions.
And sometimes you watch the UFC and the guys are so evenly matched that they kind of cancel each other out.
That is true.
It's because they're mismatches, though.
One of the reasons why they're so exciting is because it's Paul Daly versus Scott Smith.
And the reality is Scott Smith really can't stand with Paul Daly.
So it does turn out to be a spectacular knockout.
It's better that there's more competition.
It's better.
But sometimes the fights aren't nearly as exciting because these guys cancel each other out.
But then sometimes when you get two of the baddest motherfuckers in the world, and one guy takes a chance, like Anderson Silva versus Vitor, and it winds up being ultra spectacular and even worth more because you know that these guys are the best guys in the fucking world.
So it's all tricky, man.
It's all tricky.
It's going to be better to have all these fighters in, but they have to figure out what exactly they're going to do.
brian redban
I do miss the mismatches of the old UFCs, you know, like where it's a black belt in jiu-jitsu versus a bartender of the Applebee's.
joe rogan
Yeah, those are fun as far as a spectacle.
So yeah, I guess they've moved Tiago Alves versus Rick Story to the main card, but there's a lot of good fights on this, man.
steve rannazzisi
Do they have any of those fight fantasy camps?
You know how they have for basketball and baseball, like go down and play with old Yankees and That's a good question, but go down and get your fucking brain smashed in by Matt Hamill.
But I'm sure there's dudes that would do it.
Yeah, there are dudes that would do it.
joe rogan
Well, you know, it's like training.
Yeah, they should do something like that.
It's not a bad idea.
Miguel Torres versus Mighty Mouse Johnson.
That is the fucking fight.
This guy, Demetrius Mighty Mouse Johnson, he fought on Spike TV last time.
He fought Kid Yamamoto, who at one point in time was one of the baddest motherfuckers in the world.
and now he's down to his real weight of 135 pounds.
He could not.
Fuck with this dude.
This dude, Mighty Mouse Johnson, is this tiny little guy who moves faster than I've ever seen anyone.
He is the perfect reason, like the perfect version of the 135 pound fighter.
If you wanted an argument, like why do they have this 135 pound weight class?
Watch that guy.
Because nobody at 185 can move like that.
This fucking guy moves like a lightning bolt.
Just diving under punches.
His double leg takedown is faster than any I've ever seen before.
And his stand-up is fast as fuck, too.
So this guy is fighting the former champion, Miguel Torres.
That's a sick fucking fight.
I hope that's on the main card.
I think it is.
It might not be.
It might be a swing bout or something.
It might be the Spike.
Oh, it is.
I think it's a Spike TV fight.
brian redban
Did Strikeforce have girl fighting?
joe rogan
Yes, they do have girl fighting.
brian redban
And did Dana just cancel all that?
joe rogan
No, he didn't cancel all that.
They had this fighter summit where they met and they talked about the girl fights.
And they talked about, you know, they had some sort of a meeting.
unidentified
Have you ever called a girl fight?
joe rogan
No, I've never called a girl fight.
I would have to be more special.
unidentified
Not an official one.
joe rogan
Yeah, I've called some ones in bars.
unidentified
Yeah.
steve rannazzisi
Those are always more fun.
joe rogan
Yeah, I guess.
I don't know, man.
steve rannazzisi
That's why I love watching those YouTube videos of chicks fighting at Denny's and stuff like that.
Like that one that was all over the place.
I saw it on Deadspin.
Because it's just the people...
Especially when girls fight.
It's the people...
I don't really give a fuck about how to fight.
I love watching the peripheral people like, Oh, bitch!
Like, just the fucking...
Just grab their hair and fucking...
It's just so much better and more animated.
The people around them just fucking calling shit out.
brian redban
Did you see that one a couple weeks ago?
There was a video going around that it was a fight at Denny's where a black guy was dressed up as Bobo Fett.
He must have just got off some Star Wars convention and stuff.
And he's just sitting there videotaping this booth next to him.
These chicks all fighting with a cop.
And suddenly this one girl just swings and tries to punch the cop in the face.
steve rannazzisi
Oh my god.
brian redban
They just throw the girl down.
unidentified
Just...
brian redban
It's funny how you can go from trying to be civilized to just smashing this girl onto the ground.
steve rannazzisi
Or putting on your Boba Fett costume and then getting smashed onto the ground later on that night.
joe rogan
Was that WorldStarHipHop?
brian redban
Yes, I think it was.
joe rogan
Dude, that one website, WorldStarHipHop, is the conglomeration of the worst beatdowns in the history of the internet.
steve rannazzisi
Dude, world star.
brian redban
Little Esther was just on there the other day.
Did you see that?
For what?
Her video of her asking the sex questions as dressed up as a little girl.
They had her as the video of the week or something like that.
joe rogan
Well, they'll put on anything.
It doesn't have to be hip-hop related, but a lot of it is black people getting the fuck beat out of them.
And, dude, there's one video where one guy's talking shit and he gets knocked out.
And then everybody runs by and punches and kicks this guy while he's unconscious.
It is fucking disturbing.
One guy uses his head like a fucking soccer ball.
And he just runs up and boots him in the head.
Then another guy comes up and punches him in the head.
And they're all doing it while this guy's unconscious with his pants down.
It's hard to watch, man.
Human beings, man, when they get away with shit, I mean, we see it a little bit on the internet when people are anonymous and they snipe at you and say evil mean shit, but when they know they can get away with shit, you see the weakness of a human's character.
You see, like, the lowest a person can go.
There's very few things lower than you see a guy who just got knocked the fuck out and you just run over and kick him in the head because you can't.
steve rannazzisi
Yeah.
joe rogan
It takes a special kind of fucked up, in pain human being to do that, to dehumanize an unconscious guy like that.
But there's a bunch of videos on WorldStarHipHop of people doing that, man.
brian redban
You guys know who Mike Epps is, don't you?
joe rogan
The comic?
steve rannazzisi
Yeah, I saw that video.
joe rogan
What video?
steve rannazzisi
Someone served him while he was on stage, served him subpoena.
joe rogan
Really?
steve rannazzisi
While he's performing.
brian redban
The woman just threw it on the stage.
And then he goes off and says, some bitch just threw some papers on the motherfucking stage.
steve rannazzisi
White bitch.
brian redban
Fuck you.
Yeah, white bitch.
And then he admitted to participating in a nightclub brawl saying, this is from when I whooped that nigga's ass in Detroit.
And then he continued to talk about the process server while she's walking to the exit.
He's saying, bitch, I don't give a fuck.
Suck my dick.
joe rogan
Wow.
brian redban
All on stage in the middle.
Can you imagine?
joe rogan
Is there a transcript of this?
brian redban
There's a video of it we can listen to.
steve rannazzisi
Well, think about it.
We're the only people that, like, if you wanted to kill us or serve us, you know exactly where we are.
It's on our website.
joe rogan
At 8 o'clock on Friday, Steve Benazizi will be in Cleveland on stage.
steve rannazzisi
Yeah, at 8 o'clock, you know the place.
I got the address.
Here's the phone number if you want tickets.
brian redban
Here's the audio for me if you want to hear the audio.
joe rogan
Sure.
unidentified
Let's hear it.
joe rogan
He might as well be...
brian redban
You can't really hear it.
joe rogan
Kill that shit.
brian redban
Yeah, that's like cell phone.
joe rogan
He might as well be speaking Martian.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
That guy's got a...
It's Martian talk.
steve rannazzisi
I heard he...
I don't know.
This may not be true, but I heard he pulled...
Or got a gun pulled on him or pulled a gun on him in the middle of a set one time.
joe rogan
Whoa.
steve rannazzisi
Yeah.
joe rogan
Joey Cola was performing at Pips in Brooklyn, and there was a guy sitting in the front row that was heckling him, and the guy pulled up his shirt and showed him a pistol.
steve rannazzisi
I was there the night Holtzman got the gun pulled on him by the undercover cop.
unidentified
Really?
steve rannazzisi
Yeah, Holtzman's on stage, and he was shitting on cops.
joe rogan
We called the cops on that guy.
steve rannazzisi
And then Holtzman, you know, the guy was an off-duty cop, and the guy pulled the gun out.
I don't think he pulled...
No, he didn't pull it out.
He showed the gun.
Then Holtzman just kept going, of course, as if just to say, well, let it happen now if it's going to happen.
And then left.
And then the guy was in the...
Remember, he was in the parking lot walking around.
His girlfriend was there.
That's when he pulled the gun out.
That's when we called the cops.
And the cops took him around the corner behind the House of Blues and let him go.
Remember, they did the big dog and pony show, put him in the back of the car, handcuffed, and then we followed him around.
And they let him go behind.
He had his wife come pick him up.
unidentified
Wow.
steve rannazzisi
Boom.
Gone.
joe rogan
Well, you know, cops have to look out for their own, but that's an embarrassing moment for them.
unidentified
He was wasted.
joe rogan
Ugh, that's so weak.
I was there.
I remember that.
steve rannazzisi
Yeah.
joe rogan
I remember that vaguely.
I remember that because I was, like, sort of on the outside of it, and when the cops came, I was like, what happened?
Like, what?
Kind of a crazy asshole.
Like, what do you think?
You're just going to get away with that?
No one's going to call the police?
steve rannazzisi
Well, he did.
joe rogan
What a silly man.
Thinks he's going to be able to pull a fucking gun out like that.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Those cops that used to patrol that area, they were cool as fuck.
steve rannazzisi
They were, yeah.
joe rogan
Remember that big, what the fuck is his name, Mike?
steve rannazzisi
Yeah, they used to park on the ramp and just come in and hang out.
joe rogan
Yeah, and they'd come in and watch the show and hang out.
steve rannazzisi
I think they all do.
joe rogan
I opened up my truck and he goes, why does it smell like weed in your car?
I go, because I smoke good weed.
What kind of question is that?
It's smelly.
unidentified
Yeah.
You know?
steve rannazzisi
I think they worked at Kimmel, too.
I know Barris is friends with all of them.
They do security or something like that.
joe rogan
I used to hook those guys up with UFC tickets.
steve rannazzisi
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Yeah, they were cool as fuck.
Who likes watching dudes beat the fuck out of each other more than cops?
steve rannazzisi
Yeah.
joe rogan
And they're all martial artists.
I've known so many cops from jiu-jitsu.
If you're a cop, man, you better learn how to fight.
You better learn something.
steve rannazzisi
At some point, you're going to have to.
joe rogan
You have to.
When I see a guy who's completely out of shape and obviously not skilled and he's a cop, that's a scary place to be, man.
It's scary to be a cop anyway, but it's really scary to be a cop where you pull your gun out, click, click, click, the bullets don't work, you're unarmed and he's unarmed, now what?
That's scary as fuck.
There was a video of a guy getting loose in prison.
They were handcuffing him and they were bringing him somewhere.
And there was like two cops.
And he just starts beating the fuck out of these two cops.
And they were so helpless.
They did not know how to fight.
The guy tries to grab a hold of him.
He doesn't have any technique.
He probably never been blasting in the face before.
So he's freaking the fuck out.
He realizes this wild, crazy prisoner is teeing off on him.
And then the other guy tries to jump on him.
He blasts the other guy.
It was ugly.
This guy beat the fuck out of two security guards.
Beat the fuck out of them.
Unconscious.
You know, they thought two guys would be enough to contain him.
Because they didn't know how to fight.
That must be the most terrifying place to be.
Not knowing how to fight and being stuck with a crazy prisoner.
steve rannazzisi
Yeah.
joe rogan
Who's just nothing to lose, man.
Especially if the guys are in for murder.
Those guys.
The guys that are in for life.
steve rannazzisi
Well, yeah.
What do they have to lose?
You're gonna take more life?
joe rogan
What a weird fucking life that must be.
You ever watch those movies or those documentaries where they go into, like...
There was one of them where they went into this one guy was stabbing this guy.
It was all on camera.
I forget what the name of the documentary was, but he was stabbing this guy in the eye like over and over and over and over again.
He was stabbing this guy and he was screaming out white power and he jumped up.
There's some white power jumping off in this motherfucker.
And this guy is on the ground, like barely alive, a hundred fucking holes in his head.
He's just stabbing him over and over again in the head.
I'm like, wow.
This is a totally different world.
There's levels, there's a spectrum of human behavior.
And when you see that spectrum, when you see that Mexican lady...
Last week there was a video of some cartel woman chopping some guy's head off slowly and then skinning his face.
They skin his face and they put it all on video.
When you get to that level, there's levels of humanity where it's just like, whoa.
When you hear about what Vlad the Impaler used to do, the guy that was responsible for the legend of Dracula.
The legend of Dracula came from an actual man who was such a ruthless motherfucker that he would impale people on sticks.
steve rannazzisi
And keep their head on a stick, right?
joe rogan
Their whole body, their head, parts of their body.
And he would eat them.
And he'd eat their flesh and he would force them to eat each other.
He would cut their pieces up and cook it and feed it to each other.
Yeah, and then he would leave them up there for months and people would come over his house like, yeah, there's fucking some people I killed the other day.
He wanted to make sure that everybody knew he was a bad motherfucker.
Do not fuck with me.
I'm taking shit to the next level.
steve rannazzisi
Yeah.
Yeah, you may be willing to die, but are you willing to be put on a fucking stick and have me eat you for the next three days?
joe rogan
When things happen, man, when you hear about people kicking shit up to the highest, scariest notches, like one of the scariest things that I ever read was about people that had arrived, the first people that arrived and encountered Native Americans.
And some of the fucked up things they did to the Native American babies, dashed their heads on rocks, picked them up by their feet and dashed them on the rocks.
This was Columbus, man.
Columbus' boys.
Dude, Columbus was essentially a mass murderer.
Columbus was essentially a serial killer.
What those people had done, Columbus and the people that came with him, What they had done to the Native Americans that were there.
I don't know if there was resistance, if the Native Americans attacked first.
I don't know what the fuck started it all off.
But if you go into the ancient...
I was writing a script once at one point in time.
I was writing a movie.
A werewolf movie about the Old West.
It was like a long time ago, 10 years ago.
As I'm writing this, I started really getting into the Old West and reading all these stories about all these different battles and the fucking brutality on both sides.
The brutality, the horrible shit that people would do where American soldiers would cut the pussy out of dead American Indians.
Cut their pussy out and wear it on their hats.
It was like a thing that they did all the time.
steve rannazzisi
That's probably why they did it.
Because they turned to their other buddies and your buddies went...
joe rogan
It probably is why.
steve rannazzisi
The reaction still hasn't changed.
joe rogan
It's also to let people know that you're taking shit to the next level.
And everybody has this romanticized vision of how the American Indians lived and they were in peace and harmony.
Yes and no, because they weren't in peace and harmony with themselves.
steve rannazzisi
No, they were in fighting.
joe rogan
They fought all the time.
The Sioux Indians, for example, like the term Sioux, that's not what they called themselves.
What they called themselves is Lakota.
They were the Lakota people.
The other Indians called them the Sioux, because Sioux means enemy.
steve rannazzisi
Really?
joe rogan
Yes, because these motherfuckers were just the biggest, baddest motherfuckers, and they would come in and kick ass on the other Indians and rape their women and kill everybody.
And so they called them the Sioux.
What a weird way to live, though.
Riding around on animals, shooting fucking pointed sticks at other animals.
brian redban
Look at my pussy hat.
joe rogan
And by the way, they didn't even have horses until the Spaniards arrived.
steve rannazzisi
Yeah, until they brought them over.
joe rogan
Yeah, when the Europeans arrived, that's when they started riding horses.
Before, they were living this crazy, nomadic life of thousands of years ago.
They had nothing going on.
They didn't have the wheel.
They didn't have shit happening.
They were living this weird, harmonious, almost animal-like, advanced animal life.
You know, they would do a lot of hunts where they would do hunts by exhaustion where they would follow a deer and a warrior would chase a deer down and literally run at that deer until that deer died of exhaustion and then they would kill it and then they would all eat it.
But they would chase them for miles.
They just were in such incredible shape.
Well, they had to do this to stay alive.
When you don't have a horse to chase after something, you have to chase after it on foot.
Maybe your bows and arrows suck.
Maybe you haven't figured that out yet.
So you're living like people lived thousands and thousands of years ago.
So in Europe, they had written language, they had culture, they had plays, they had all this shit going on.
They were so advanced as far as like society.
And then you would come to North America and there was savages, like literally.
steve rannazzisi
Sometimes I'm so tired, I'm like, I'm not even going to walk to the store.
Buy the shit that has already been killed for me.
joe rogan
I know, right?
steve rannazzisi
And then you gotta get out of the car.
joe rogan
I watched True Grit the other day.
steve rannazzisi
Did you like it?
joe rogan
It was good, man.
The new one is good.
steve rannazzisi
He's a good actor, fucking Jeff Bridges, bro.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's a bad motherfucker.
He's really good.
Matt Damon was good in it, too.
Everybody was good in it.
The Little Girl was good.
It's a good movie.
steve rannazzisi
That was her first thing ever.
unidentified
Really?
steve rannazzisi
She did an episode of like...
I don't know, like Modern Family and then this.
joe rogan
She's fucking good, man.
She was.
She can act her ass off.
But you look at that movie and you see the hardships of the time, like how people were, you know, the shit they had to go through back then.
Just riding around on animals.
Just that alone.
You either get on this stupid, stinky train that goes like 30 miles an hour, or you have to ride an animal.
Your call.
Your call.
Everything kills you.
steve rannazzisi
Yeah, I know.
joe rogan
You get a cold, most likely you're going to die.
steve rannazzisi
That reminds me of your joke.
I probably don't do it anymore.
And half your family, you travel across the country and half your family is going to die on the trip.
joe rogan
Yeah.
steve rannazzisi
Half of you are going to die.
You're not even going to make it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I don't even remember how that bit goes.
steve rannazzisi
I don't remember.
brian redban
Stage court?
steve rannazzisi
Yeah, the whole thing.
You're like, this is where we live now.
joe rogan
Yeah.
steve rannazzisi
Because you were the lazy ones.
joe rogan
The idea was the only people in Paducah, Kentucky aren't in Paducah because Paducah is the shit.
They're in Paducah because they were walking across the country and they went, my feet hurt.
Let's stop here and fuck.
And they just stayed in some shitty spot.
unidentified
Who the fuck would want to just keep doing it though?
joe rogan
It's hard because, you know, you would survive, man.
It's like when you watch Lost.
It all makes sense.
They crash on this plane.
They crash their plane on this island.
The survivors learn how to eat coconuts.
And this is what we do.
Now our society is here.
This is where we live now.
You know, I mean, it makes sense.
That's what you do.
That's what you would do, too.
You would form some new society and new culture in the woods, you know?
And you would figure out how to fucking use coconuts to go retrieve water from the little fountain, you know?
Fuck, this is what we do now.
You would do it until you died.
Because the alternative is like, what are you going to do?
Are you going to commit suicide?
Get to the highest cliff and drop down and bash your head on the rocks because you can't handle what thousands of years of people have handled before you?
steve rannazzisi
It may not be.
I can't get suntan.
I'll burn.
So I have two days of bad sunburn.
joe rogan
Renna Zizi is Italian though.
steve rannazzisi
Yeah, but I'm half Irish.
joe rogan
And the Irish is dominated?
steve rannazzisi
I burn, dude.
So I know in my mind, I'm like, yeah, we'll figure it out.
But I got a week of fucking sunburn ahead of me.
You gotta stay in the sun.
brian redban
White poop all over you or something.
joe rogan
It's weird how human beings have evolved to different climates.
Like if you go to Ireland, everyone in Ireland is white like paper.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
They're white as fuck because it's rainy all the time and they don't have to deal with the clouds.
They don't have to deal with the sun.
brian redban
No.
Like sick ETs.
joe rogan
Yeah.
But then, you know, when you get a place like America that's like this weird melting pot and people, their genetics have come from all these different places.
Now all of a sudden they're in some strange environments where you get like blonde people in Phoenix.
If you're a blonde person living in Phoenix, Arizona, you got exactly 10 hours every year of being in the sun, getting baked down before you start developing cancer.
You get 365 days a year and out of those days, you got about 10 hours where maybe if you ration it off over the course of a year, you can survive being outside.
But if you want to be some sort of a fucking farmer or if you like fishing, And, you know, your arms are always outside in the sun.
You're going to develop some weird shit on your arms.
steve rannazzisi
I know.
joe rogan
You know, there's radiation.
steve rannazzisi
I've seen, like, I've been, like, on boats before, like fishermen you talk about, like, dudes that look like me, but just, like, when they take their shirt off, but, like, their arms and their faces just look like fucking leather bags.
joe rogan
Yeah, dude.
Yeah, a thousand years old.
Being in the sun all the time is terrible for you.
It's weird.
It's like this giant nuclear explosion that's millions of miles away that keeps us alive, but it also wants to kill us.
steve rannazzisi
Yeah.
We need it, but it wants us to die.
joe rogan
And if we move just a little bit too far away from it, we freeze to death.
A little bit too close and all the water evaporates and we cook.
You know, it's like the delicate balance.
You know, the only reason why we're able to live on this planet and this environment is stable at all is because of our moon.
Because our moon is so large.
Our moon is one quarter of the size of the Earth.
And it's in, you know, a stationary orbit and it keeps our orbit stationary.
Its gravity interacts with our gravity and it keeps us in a stable path where every year we're, you know, it doesn't get too cold and it doesn't get too hot.
It doesn't vary too much.
But other planets, some planets have elliptical orbits where their distance between the sun and...
steve rannazzisi
Changes rapidly.
joe rogan
Yeah, radically.
And it's also the angle that you turn.
The moon doesn't turn.
The moon follows us the same faces us all the time.
It spins around with us, but it spins around with us with the same look.
Whereas other planets spin.
They spin and they have crazy orbits.
If you look at the orbits, we would think that orbits would all be circular, but they're not.
I just started realizing this when I started studying all the Zacharias Hitchin stuff.
We started talking about Nibiru, the ancient Sumerians are the oldest known civilization as far as written language and mathematics.
They talked, according to the Zechariah Hitching guy, a lot of people have doubted what he says and have contradicted him.
But he said that there was a planet that was 3,600 miles away.
Every 3,600 years, this planet that's on this crazy elliptical orbit comes between Mars and Jupiter.
And I thought about this, and I was like, are planets elliptical?
Is that even possible?
If you want to know what elliptical is, elliptical is like NASCAR. Instead of a circle, it's like a long...
steve rannazzisi
It's an oval.
joe rogan
Yeah, like an oval.
Well, apparently there's a lot of planets that are elliptical.
A lot.
And binary star systems.
There's a lot of binary star systems, too.
And that's one of the things they suspect might be outside of Pluto.
There's all this speculation lately about There's something wrong with the moon's gravity and the way the moon's orbit is that it's reflective of some larger body in the solar system.
And there's also a lot of evidence of something called the galactic shelf and the Kuiper belt and all these asteroids that are on the real outskirts of our solar system, like outside of Pluto.
Apparently there's like a big drop off and they're really quite sure that there's some large body out there.
And it's probably four times the size of Jupiter at least.
Jupiter is fucking enormous.
so they think that this might be a brown dwarf star that we might actually have a binary star system but that this other star is way the fuck out there and it's like it's a brown dwarf and i guess you can't see them that well i guess it's very difficult to figure out where the fuck it is and spot it and they haven't been able to locate it yet but there's so little we know about this whole fucking thing that we live in look how long it's been and look how we won't we haven't even you know we haven't sent them human to mars well that's
steve rannazzisi
Technically, if you look at the whole thing, we haven't even gone off our back porch yet.
Not even into the fucking backyard or the pool or wherever.
joe rogan
Yeah, and most people believe we went in the moon.
I'm skeptical still.
And that sounds ridiculous to say, but we haven't been back since 1972. And I know people say, so what, it's the funding?
Yeah, it seems to me like there's some fucking shenanigans going on.
I've looked very, very closely at the whole moon landing thing, and it's a ridiculous subject to bring up.
Because even me saying it and hearing my own voice questioning it, I sound like a retard.
I sound like a retard to me.
But I still can't buy it 100%.
I just don't.
1969 and 1972, there were seven trips, six successful.
It's the only time in human history that humans have been above 400 miles of the Earth's surface.
Only the Apollo missions.
The Apollo missions before that as well.
No biological entity from the United States ever went into space and came back alive, except humans.
We never even sent a chicken around the moon to see if it survives.
We just threw them out into deep space and threw them out into extreme radiation.
And they return successfully every single time.
And yet we haven't been able to go back since 1972. Every other man-made or manned mission from that point on has only been up to 400 miles, like under 400 miles of the Earth's surface.
They went 260,000 miles out and back.
They did it in 72, man.
69 to 72. And people will say all kinds of things like, the Soviets could have, you know, they would have pulled the trigger and told on us if that was the case.
Maybe.
But who the fuck knows what kind of weird shit goes on When people are actually running countries, who knows what kind of deals they have?
steve rannazzisi
WikiLeaks.
joe rogan
Yeah, exactly.
steve rannazzisi
He knows.
joe rogan
He might know.
He knows now.
unidentified
There was no WikiLeaks in 69. He would have said it, though, if he knows, right?
brian redban
He would have leaked that.
joe rogan
Yeah, but why would that be in WikiLeaks?
I mean, who the fuck needs to know if they actually faked the moon landing suit?
Who needs to know?
A few people, you know?
You know, like...
brian redban
Everyone in the space station?
joe rogan
What the fuck is the guy that made 2001 A Space Odyssey?
brian redban
Oh, Kubrick?
joe rogan
Stanley Kubrick, yeah.
That was the number one conspirator, speculative guy that they said that Kubrick was probably in on it and that he, you know, because he had a relationship with NASA, NASA came to him for some things.
brian redban
He borrowed the cameras from it or something like that, if I remember.
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's a total retard argument.
I understand, folks.
And if you're here listening, you go, fucking Rogan, man.
Unfollow on Twitter.
I'm no longer a fan.
You questioned me.
We were there and I was a proud American.
First of all, it's not we.
steve rannazzisi
It's got nothing to do with being a proud American.
joe rogan
It's got nothing to do with us.
This is us.
And in 1969, it's not you, dude.
Those are different human beings.
Maybe we did go.
It's very possible that we did go, or it's very possible that the whole thing was a fucking hoax.
steve rannazzisi
I think we went, but...
joe rogan
I think it's possible.
I wouldn't be shocked, but I've talked to people that really truly believe that we went, and it sounds to me a lot like religion.
They're not willing to question it.
They keep saying, what are the odds?
It's impossible.
Is it possible to fake this?
Look, they faked a lot of shit.
They faked the Gulf of Tonkin incident that got us into the Vietnam War.
They were going to fake Operation Northwood.
They were going to blow up civilian airliners and blame it on the Cubans to get us to go to war with Cuba.
They were going to arm Cuban friendlies and attack Guantanamo Bay.
This is all shit that was...
This is not Alex Jones, ladies and gentlemen.
Black helicopters!
This is real shit.
I'm not making this up.
This is all freedom of information stuff.
And here's a quote, and this is the last thing I'm going to say on it, because this is right out of Bill Clinton's book.
Bill Clinton wrote this.
Just a month before Apollo 11 astronauts Buzz Aldrin and Neil Armstrong had left their colleague Michael Collins aboard Spaceship Columbia and walked on the moon, beating by five months President Kennedy's goal of putting a man on the moon before the decade was out.
The old carpenter asked me if I really believed it happened.
I said, sure.
I saw it on television.
He disagreed.
He said that he didn't believe it for a minute, that them television fellers could make things look real that weren't.
Back then, I thought he was a crank.
During my eight years in Washington, I saw some things on TV that made me wonder if he wasn't ahead of his time.
That's Bill fucking Clinton.
Bill fucking Clinton.
But what does it mean?
It might mean nothing.
steve rannazzisi
It might mean that he's just saying that people are full of shit.
joe rogan
Or it might mean that he just questioned the moon landing.
He just said that that guy might have been ahead of his time.
It is quite possible.
Look, if you were the president and you found that people really didn't go to the moon...
steve rannazzisi
You can't tell.
joe rogan
You can't tell.
You can't just come out and say that.
And this is about as...
As transparent as you can get by saying that we didn't go to the moon and putting it in a book.
brian redban
I would love to ask him about that quote.
joe rogan
He wouldn't tell you shit.
He would say, who are you?
steve rannazzisi
No one will ever ask him about that one quote.
brian redban
Somebody needs to just ask him about that one quote.
steve rannazzisi
Who's ever going to get that chance?
brian redban
I'm sure a lot of people now.
He's probably hanging out.
He's probably got Twitter.
steve rannazzisi
He doesn't ask those questions.
joe rogan
I say the most likely scenario is that the moon landings are real and that people look for a conspiracy in everything.
And if you look close enough at anything, you can start to convince yourself that it's a hoax.
That is absolutely possible.
It's also possible they faked the whole fucking thing.
It is possible that they murdered Gus Grisham.
He was the guy that was the fucking astronaut in the Apollo 1. He was the guy that died in the simulator, burned to death with two other people.
That guy was questioning whether or not they were going to be able to get to it left and right.
He actually hung a lemon on the simulator when he was doing interviews with reporters to tell people that this is a lemon.
They can't even communicate with this fucking tower that's half a mile away.
He goes, how the fuck are we going to talk to people when we're on the moon 260,000 miles away?
That guy died, okay?
And his family to this day, I mean, maybe it's just his son that misses his daddy and believes in conspiracies too, but they believe that NASA murdered him.
There was also a guy, and his name was Thomas Ronald Barron, and he was hired by Congress.
He was a safety inspector.
He was hired by Congress to oversee NASA and look at the whole moon landing thing and see whether or not it's feasible.
Well, this guy put together this 500-page report and he questioned whether or not they were ever going to get to the moon.
He said NASA was in such complete disarray that he didn't think they were ever going to be able to do it.
That guy died a couple...
I don't remember how long afterwards.
It was very close afterwards.
In his car, parked on a train track with his whole family.
Parked his car on a train track and died when the train hit the car.
steve rannazzisi
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, which is, by the way, how they got rid of people in 1969, folks.
They killed Kennedy.
They can kill you, too.
And if you think that you're going to go around undermining NASA's fake mission to the moon, well, guess what?
We're going to park your car on a train track and you're going to disappear.
And so is your little report.
unidentified
And...
joe rogan
Look, we're on the moon.
Crazy.
Who the fuck knows?
I don't know.
None of us do.
I'm certainly not claiming to be the possessor of some unattainable truth.
All I'm saying is, it is possible.
They could have pulled it off.
I firmly believe that with the insane budget they had operating, they could have pulled off almost anything short of faking Godzilla attacking Tocho.
steve rannazzisi
Did you see that movie, Wag the Dog?
Yes.
Fascinating.
It's like what they just came up with on the fly.
It was like, on the fly...
How Hoffman's character just was like, alright, then we'll do this, we'll bring in this guy, and then we'll cast this guy.
joe rogan
It's a brilliant movie.
steve rannazzisi
It was a really great movie.
joe rogan
And that is what they could do.
Look, who the fuck knows?
I know it's a retard.
I'm not married to this.
I swear to God I'm not.
I had two arguments on the air, on the Penn& Teller show, on Penn Jillette, rather, Penn Jillette's radio show, with this guy, Phil Plait, great guy, and he runs badastronomy.com, and I debated him about it.
And I thought he was going to clown me.
And he kind of did in some ways in the first one because he kind of corrected me on some things and made me really kind of see where he was coming from.
But also he was not willing to look at the possibility that it was fake.
I said, you have to look at things from both sides before you form a belief in it.
You have to.
steve rannazzisi
You have to look at it from both sides before you choose what side you believe.
joe rogan
Yeah, but he's always going to believe in the side of science.
He's a scientist and he's an astronomer and it makes sense to me.
But when I was talking to him about certain things, man, one of them was they had some photos that they took, the Clementine Lunar Orbiter, and they took these photos of the launch sites and they had these little specks that were on the ground.
And they said that this is like infrared photos from 30 miles up or whatever the fuck it was.
300 miles up, whatever the satellite is, how far away it is from the moon.
And that these are photos and they show the landing site because it's like a blast crater from when the thing took off.
And I'm like...
How is that possible that you're accepting that that is the photo of the launch site?
When if you look at the launch site and those high-resolution close-up photos, there's no disturbance whatsoever.
There's one of the things that all the hoaxsters, all the people that think it's a hoax, that's what they always point to, that this 10,000 pounds of thrust would have blasted a fucking hole in the ground.
But meanwhile, when they landed, it was totally undisturbed.
How are you going to get crystal clear, close-up, high-resolution photos that show no disturbance, but you're going to be able to see it from orbit?
Miles above the earth.
You're gonna be able to see this little tiny dot from 300 miles up.
That's craziness.
And he didn't have anything to say to that.
I was like, you never considered that?
You never looked at these little craters and said, how does that make sense?
How is that possible?
steve rannazzisi
How many living people are still around that have been on the moon?
joe rogan
There's quite a few.
There's quite a few.
There's a bunch.
They're all squirrely, man.
Buzz Aldrin, you know, there's some fascinating interviews with him, man.
There's a fascinating interview.
One of them where this guy who runs, he's got, he made the movie A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon, and he tells Buzz Aldrin that he's a liar, and Buzz Aldrin punches him in the head.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Which, by the way...
Rightly so.
Fuck you, man.
Even if the guy did fucking fake the moon landing, what do you think is his idea?
You know, you don't think he got talked into doing that?
You don't think that maybe they had some fucking guns to his head?
Maybe they scared the shit out of him?
He became a massive alcoholic after he came back from the moon landings.
One of the weirdest things about the moon landings is you have to watch the post-flight press conference.
I am no science expert, but I am an expert in bullshit.
I know when people are lying.
I can fucking see it.
I can smell it.
And you can too.
There's a weird thing with humans where we can tell when people are being deceptive.
And the video of them coming back from the moon, man, it seems like they're full of shit.
It doesn't seem like they're nervous.
They're definitely nervous too, but it also seems like they're full of shit.
Buzz Aldrin and Michael Collins, they're just shitty actors, man.
steve rannazzisi
Was it like an open press conference where the...
joe rogan
One of them, they ask him, what was it like?
Did you see any stars when you were on the moon?
And Michael Collins says, I don't recall seeing any stars when I was on the moon.
I don't recall seeing any.
But meanwhile, he never left the command module in the story.
The narrative is that Buzz Aldrin and Neil Armstrong made it to the moon, but Michael Collins stayed in orbit.
He never went on the moon.
So they attributed that quote to Buzz Aldrin in the transcript because Michael Collins would never say it.
Look, it's all conspirator talk.
I know it is.
But there's enough shit there that makes me go, I'm not willing to totally buy this.
I know it sounds ridiculous.
I know the arguments that Occam's razor, man, most likely scenario, you have to go with that one.
The most likely scenario is That we can't do it anymore because of budgetary reasons and this and that.
But there's never been a single technological achievement from 1969 that's not cheaper, easier, or faster to reproduce today, except for putting people on the moon.
That one is weird.
That one, every time they talk about putting people back, it's 2020 or 2022. But every president says they're going to do it.
George Herbert Walker Bush said he was going to do it.
Bill Clinton said he was going to do it.
George Bush said he was going to do it.
They all talked about putting people back on the moon.
steve rannazzisi
Could Imagine today if Barack Obama was like, we have enough problems right fucking here.
This is not the time to also do this.
joe rogan
It's also not the time to invade Pakistan.
It's not the time to be in Afghanistan.
It's the time to be concentrating on our own economy.
steve rannazzisi
This Pakistan thing is going to...
joe rogan
Scary shit, man.
All of it's scary.
steve rannazzisi
That Pakistan thing is because, you know, if you start with them, then that cuts off all support to Afghanistan, and it's like, now it's game on.
You want to fight three fucking, you want to have three wars at one time?
joe rogan
And by the way, that's when Iran comes into the picture, too.
I mean, there's all this talk about invading Iran.
What if Iran keeps up its military program, or its nuclear program, rather, and then we have to invade Iran?
steve rannazzisi
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't know, man.
My point about all this is that We don't know what the fuck the people who are quote-unquote running this world are doing.
We don't know what they're doing.
We assume that what they're telling us is what's really going on.
But they've been proven over and over again throughout history to be full of shit.
They've even said they're going to be full of shit to protect us.
They've said that the CIA has come out.
It was mainstream news reported that they were going to start making artificial stories and putting them in the news to throw off the terrorists.
Well, when you start doing that, man, all bets are off.
You start lying to everybody to protect us, like, Jesus fucking Christ, where's the accountability?
When does this stop?
Why are we angry at the world?
Why is the world angry at us?
Why are we there?
Does this really have to be micromanaged?
Do we really have to manage all the people in the world and keep everybody under our thumb?
Are you sure?
Is it just because we've been doing it forever?
I mean, is there a better way to approach this?
steve rannazzisi
I just feel like, right now, with what is happening here, and the sentiment that people feel about what's going on over in the Middle East, and they're taking...
Not that they're taking care of the business on their own, but you see things starting to play out where, like, even in Egypt, it's like they're handling...
The uprisings are happening, and they're not perfect, but things are getting sorted out on their own.
And for us to be there interfering or being the catalyst for those kind of things to happen is not a good idea.
joe rogan
Well, I think these uprisings...
steve rannazzisi
You're knocking at the fucking hornet's nest rather than just letting it be and letting them take care of themselves or take care of the situations that they're not happy about themselves.
joe rogan
Yeah, but I guess you got to kind of keep dictators from rising up and just fucking up people too.
It's like, because also when you get a dictatorship.
steve rannazzisi
But we don't do that.
We don't do that.
We do it when it's, but when they're our allies or they're our friends, then we're, then it's cool.
joe rogan
Right.
steve rannazzisi
This is the guy that runs the thing.
I know there's problems, but there's always been problems.
He's our friend.
Wait, he's not our friend.
Fucking let's go.
Everyone in.
Get him in.
We got to get him out.
We got to get the next guy we can trust in there.
joe rogan
Right.
Like Egypt.
steve rannazzisi
Exactly.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
steve rannazzisi
And that's my fear about Pakistan now.
It's like, we've been giving one and a half billion dollars a year for arms, and it's like, now, wait a second, you've had this guy for five fucking years he's lived in this house, five fucking years, 800 yards away from a military base?
You gotta be fucking kidding me, man!
At some point, like...
unidentified
Look, I'm not a cop, but I... You didn't know that was in your yard?
joe rogan
No, sir.
steve rannazzisi
I didn't know.
Oh, and by the way, did you guys not...
I already wasn't on dialysis either.
Did you hear about that?
joe rogan
Really?
steve rannazzisi
There was no dialysis machine.
That's what I read, but there's...
It's like...
That's another thing we were told about, like the dialysis thing, and that he was almost an invalid, you know?
And it's like, this guy was fucking roaming around this house for five years...
And nobody picked up on this?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a very fantastic story.
And we talked about this yesterday, and we said that if you had a movie, and in the movie you wanted to have an ending where it could leave room for the sequel, this is the perfect ending.
You don't get to see the body.
They dump him in the ocean.
That's it.
Fuck, man.
It's almost like they want people to...
Even if they did have photos of him, nah, let him fucking guess.
It keeps things interesting.
It keeps things humming along.
It keeps people distracted.
brian redban
I want to see a fucking photo.
They showed Saddam.
They showed Saddam.
joe rogan
They showed him die.
brian redban
They didn't just show him.
They showed him die.
Why can't we have a little...
steve rannazzisi
They showed Roshan Rondo's arm dislocated a thousand times on the news that night.
It was horrible to look at.
We could see a fucking photo of a...
It's sort of like...
We've fought this.
We've paid for this war for 10 years.
We've had so much fucking problems financially here.
We send troops over there.
They've died.
Let us see the fucking photo.
joe rogan
We paid for the shit.
I can see the argument for not showing it.
I can see that it's going to make him a martyr.
I can see that it's going to make people, you know, in the militant movement, the Islamic militant movement, you know, they're going to use that as propaganda.
I can see that it's better to not show it.
When you're dealing with religious fanatics, it's better to just, if you really did have it, yeah, jump it in the ocean.
steve rannazzisi
I'm not saying it's not the upper hand.
joe rogan
Or put it on ice.
Where everybody can, like, the next president can come check it out.
steve rannazzisi
I'm not saying it's not the high road.
It's the high road.
You're right.
It is the high road.
But I don't really know.
I don't know if we're...
joe rogan
Even the high road.
I don't even think it's the high road.
I mean, I just think it's the smart road.
I think, you know, if you look at as far as benefit...
To negative repercussions, you would have to say that the benefit would lie in not stirring up more than possible.
If you already killed the guy and you did the work, you did what the public wants you to do, you got rid of public enemy number one, You got rid of this guy.
You got his computers.
If that really happened the way they said it happened, yeah, what the fuck, man?
You don't have to show people the pictures.
You're protecting people.
You did your job.
If everybody is secure and all the people who are important have seen the photos, yeah, man, I don't think we all need to see it.
I don't think it needs to be distributed to the world.
steve rannazzisi
What about this?
What if they said it's on this?
joe rogan
It doesn't mean that I don't want to see it.
steve rannazzisi
It's on this website.
If you want to look at it, great.
If you don't, you don't.
joe rogan
No, that's not good because then the Islamic terrorists are going to be able to look at it.
They're going to look at it and they're going to...
They're going to go fucking crazy and there he is.
They strap themselves up with dynamite.
steve rannazzisi
What if it's a private domain?
It's password protected.
joe rogan
Well, you can't fucking get through that.
brian redban
You know a hacker will get it.
It's password protected.
It'll be a couple months or a year, and then a hacker's going to somehow hack somebody's computer that has it or do something.
There's going to be a wiki.
joe rogan
Maybe if this happened 10 years ago, I would say definitely.
But I think now, I think probably not.
I think now they're probably pretty good at stopping shit like that from happening.
If it's all legit.
brian redban
Wasn't the Pentagon just hacked like a couple months ago?
joe rogan
We had Brian Callen on yesterday, and I love Brian's take on things because it's very Fox News-like.
steve rannazzisi
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
By the way he grew up, he believes that they're doing the right things and he believes that whatever the narrative is, that he follows whatever America is, the reason why we're there in certain places, and he doesn't believe in conspiracies.
But when you look at all the different goddamn stories like Pat Tillman, How they tried to change that fucking story and butcher that when he was killed by friendly fire and the Jessica Lynch story.
These are just the ones that have blown up in our faces.
How many of these have they got away with?
How many stories that we think are history are just total complete horseshit?
steve rannazzisi
There's a lot.
A lot.
joe rogan
There's a fuckload, man.
There's, uh, you know, I just, you gotta be crazy to believe everything they say.
I'm not saying that you should believe in conspiracy theories, because a lot of them are just as nuts.
And by the way, some of the really nutty conspiracy theories, Garol fucking T, those are put in place by the government to discredit conspiracy theories.
That's a tactic that's been used from the beginning of time.
unidentified
Ha!
joe rogan
That's what they do.
It's disinformation.
Put out disinformation.
They'll give you a bunch of good information, a bunch of things that make sense.
They'll say that Lee Harvey Oswald did not act alone, and he thought that he was doing this, but they had set him up, and they really shot Kennedy with assassins that were set up in different parts of the grassy knoll and all throughout Dallas, Texas.
And the reason why they used Lee Harvey Oswald is because they needed him to die so that he could go through a wormhole to Alpha Centauri to bring back the Master.
And the Master is going to rechange.
All they have to do is that.
And then all of a sudden all the Lee Harvey Oswald stuff is bullshit.
Now it's crazy talk.
steve rannazzisi
You get people like, you can't say Lee Harvey Oswald because then he's going to go to a fucking cell somewhere.
joe rogan
Exactly.
It's like, try talking about UFOs.
Try talking about aliens.
Try talking about anything along those lines, and you automatically get labeled a kook.
Try talking about Bigfoot.
You're a fucking kook.
But meanwhile, Bigfoot might have very well existed.
There's an animal called a Gigantopithecus.
It's a fucking huge, 8-foot tall, erect ape that lived in Asia and might very well have come across the Bering Strait.
Is it still alive now?
Probably not, but might have existed at one point in time.
It's a real animal.
They know what they think it might be, and it looks like Bigfoot.
So it did exist, and it existed just 100,000 years or so ago.
And there's been many, many instances of shit that they thought was long dead, like the coelacanth.
There was a fish that's a goddamn prehistoric monster.
It's a fucking dinosaur.
Hundreds of millions of years old.
They thought this thing was long extinct until, I believe it was the 1930s, someone caught one.
And they're like, whoa, these are alive?!
They're alive.
They're in the ocean.
Who the fuck knows what's in the Pacific Northwest?
Fly over that shit in an airplane.
steve rannazzisi
I know.
I was just up in Kirkland, Washington last weekend.
Or two weekends ago.
joe rogan
Fucking dense.
steve rannazzisi
Crazy up there.
joe rogan
Dense forest, man.
You're talking about millions of acres.
Millions of square miles, probably.
You know?
How many square miles?
That's not true.
Thousands of square miles, though.
A square mile's a weird thing.
Like, there's a lot of footage in a square mile.
It's not like the distance between two points.
steve rannazzisi
Yeah, well, how do you do it on a hill or something?
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
Millions of acres, for sure.
But whatever it is, when you fly over it, you look at the density of the...
I mean, the Pacific Northwest has legitimate rainforests where you can't see inside.
You don't know what the fuck is in there.
There's a lot of crazy shit in there.
Is there Bigfoot?
Probably not.
Probably not.
But I wouldn't be surprised if it is.
If they've caught Bigfoot, though, really, what is it?
It's just a big, stupid monkey.
It wouldn't be any different than an orangutan.
steve rannazzisi
I mean, it would be cool if it talked.
brian redban
Yeah, if it talked...
And it dressed up in clothing.
steve rannazzisi
If it was like, you guys, congratulations.
brian redban
Had a whole family.
steve rannazzisi
Yeah.
Bigfoot was divorced.
brian redban
Yeah.
steve rannazzisi
He's got two kids he doesn't see.
joe rogan
You know, they didn't discover the mountain gorilla until 1902. You know when I discovered the mountain gorilla?
steve rannazzisi
Three seconds ago.
joe rogan
It's a giant-ass fucking huge gorilla.
It's a big-ass fucking gorilla.
steve rannazzisi
I'm learning something.
My son loves dinosaurs.
He's two and a half, so we went to the Museum of Natural History in New York.
It's cool.
I haven't been to museums since I was a kid, really.
It's like going back now, you actually care and you're learning more.
Watching him and I together like, oh shit, this is fucking...
I looked at a T-Rex.
It was fucking massive.
It's massive.
joe rogan
Incredible.
steve rannazzisi
The vertebrae on the T-Rex is bigger than my fucking forearm.
Crazy.
joe rogan
Tremendous.
They try to figure out why the T-Rex was built like that, too.
There's so much speculation.
Like, why do this thing have these giant legs and these weird arms?
Little tiny arms.
Could it run?
Could that thing even run?
steve rannazzisi
And how fast?
joe rogan
Jurassic Park, they ran, remember?
They ran really fast.
steve rannazzisi
Yeah.
joe rogan
But the speculation is that that's not possible.
And then there's other speculation by, you know, more fringe people that think that the atmosphere was different then.
That it was a much denser atmosphere, that it could carry your weight better, that gravity was lighter or something.
steve rannazzisi
Well, I also think they were an unbelievable fighter.
They never got off balance because their tail weighed almost as fresh as the front part, so they were never – they could just lock those legs down and just move around and you can really get them off balance.
joe rogan
There's also speculation that T-Rex was just a scavenger.
Those big teeth were just for breaking up bones.
steve rannazzisi
Oh, really?
joe rogan
And shit was dying left and right all over the place.
And they would just find it.
steve rannazzisi
Like a garbage disposal?
Just eat whatever you...
joe rogan
Yeah, like raptors would kill something.
And they would just go, get out of here, bitch.
That shit's mine.
And then they would be big and ugly.
There was even speculation about their coloring.
That their coloring would be very vulture-like.
And it's possible that they were really hideous looking.
They were just giant garbage disposals.
steve rannazzisi
It's still fun to see all the...
Just the gigantic, massive fucking bones they had and stuff.
It's crazy.
joe rogan
What people don't realize, man, is that if this...
I mean, that world that existed 65 million years ago before that giant meteor hit and killed all those dinosaurs, that world could easily be right now if that meteor didn't hit.
And there would be no people.
steve rannazzisi
No.
joe rogan
It would be nothing.
Those things, like, the world that we have now is one of several mass extinction event worlds.
There's been several different ones along the lines, and this is the latest to survive the last mass extinction.
But they're all very different.
They're all very different.
There's very few animals that survive that.
The one that hit the Yucatan, they say it was five miles long and that it was five miles deep into the Earth in the first second and a half it hit.
steve rannazzisi
Really?
joe rogan
Five miles in?
Five miles deep into the earth in the first second and a half that it hit.
And that's not unusual.
That's happened a bunch of times over the course of the history of the earth.
Yeah, and it can happen, man.
And there ain't shit to do about it.
Fuck Bruce Willis.
You can't shoot a rocket and land on that thing and deflect it.
steve rannazzisi
I love that movie.
joe rogan
It's a great movie.
unidentified
I love that movie.
joe rogan
If you're high and dumb.
That movie sucked.
steve rannazzisi
I love that movie.
joe rogan
What was better, though, that one or Deep Impact?
steve rannazzisi
I like that movie because of Buscemi.
I just love Buscemi, how creepy and weird he was, just fucking the rocket.
I don't know.
Buscemi just cracked me up.
joe rogan
I remember it had one of those really fucking lame Aerosmith ballads.
unidentified
Living on the edge!
joe rogan
No, not that.
It's weird to see Steven Tyler, man.
It's weird to see him.
I mean, I don't hate the guy.
I'm a huge fan of his earlier stuff.
steve rannazzisi
Oh, you're talking about American Idol?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's weird.
It's weird to see him on American Idol.
It's weird to see those ballads, too, man.
Those movie, romantic movie ballads that they started producing that were just...
You know, you go back to, like, Walk This Way.
You know, you go back to some of their shit that they put out.
I mean, it was just some badass rock and roll, man.
steve rannazzisi
Do you know if Run DMC had to be talked into doing Walk This Way?
joe rogan
Really?
steve rannazzisi
They were pissed.
They were like, we're fucking gangsters.
We don't want to fucking have a guitar in it.
I think it was Rev Run did an interview.
Then we got our first check and we were like, fuck yeah.
Rick Rubin, they were giving him a high five.
They made more money off their first check from Walk This Way than they had their whole career put together.
joe rogan
Well, it was a good collaboration too.
It actually was one of the few that made both songs better.
brian redban
Like that Anthrax one too is pretty good.
steve rannazzisi
Oh, with Run DMC? Yeah.
joe rogan
I don't know that one.
What is that one?
steve rannazzisi
Fuck, how does it go?
I remember the video.
brian redban
Bring the noise.
steve rannazzisi
Bring the noise, yes.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, that's right.
unidentified
Turn up the trail.
steve rannazzisi
Bring the noise!
joe rogan
Yeah, that was cool, man, when rappers...
I mean, now the best things are mashups, you know, when they're not really doing it, but someone else does it together.
steve rannazzisi
We require DJs to do that now.
joe rogan
My favorite, man, is the Jimi Hendrix one with Jay-Z. 99 Problems mixed with Voodoo Child.
brian redban
Oh, really?
steve rannazzisi
I haven't heard that.
unidentified
Ooh!
joe rogan
You never heard that?
steve rannazzisi
No.
joe rogan
That's my premiere workout shit.
When I want to kick things, when I'm working out and I want to kick it to the next level, I throw that on.
Because it's just a fucking jam.
Jimi Hendrix guitar and that 99 Problems song all jammed up into one song.
steve rannazzisi
I'm gonna go Google some mashups.
joe rogan
Google the shit out of that, son.
brian redban
Listen to some old-school Daft Punk, too.
That shit's so awesome.
The guitar in that one song.
joe rogan
Daft Punk.
What do they sing?
brian redban
Stronger, Faster, Better.
They do a lot of songs.
joe rogan
Somebody made a mashup of one of my rants from the podcast mixed with a Daft Punk song.
brian redban
Yeah.
I mean, it's a lot of, like, mellow, kind of, like, techno-type music, but then they have some just amazing songs.
And one of the songs, it's called, I think it's called Digital Love, but it has this awesome guitar solo in the middle of it that's just pretty badass.
joe rogan
I'm psyched.
steve rannazzisi
I'm going to, we're playing Bonnaroo this year.
Who's we?
The League show.
We're going to do a League live show there.
joe rogan
What are you going to do?
How do you do that?
steve rannazzisi
They have a tent for comedy.
I think it's like, we're going, Louis Black's going.
You know, this is like one of the things.
We do like a show together where the four of us do stand-up and stuff.
Oh, that's cool.
But yeah, I mean like, everyone's going to be there.
Eminem's going to be there, the Black Keys.
Mumford and Sons.
Yeah, everyone.
It's just going to be...
I hope it's...
I mean, it's like an hour outside of Nashville.
joe rogan
Dude, that sounds awesome.
steve rannazzisi
Yeah, it's the biggest...
It's like Coachella, but just...
joe rogan
And they do a lot of stand-up at those, too, don't they?
steve rannazzisi
They do, yeah.
This is my first experience with that.
I'm doing that, and then the next week I'm doing this country-western musical...
joe rogan
Festival?
steve rannazzisi
Festival thing.
Me and Jimmy Schubert and John Reap.
joe rogan
Jimmy Schubert.
steve rannazzisi
I'm like, this is going to be either the best slash worst weekend of my life.
joe rogan
I haven't seen Jimmy Schubert around in ages.
steve rannazzisi
Yeah, I know.
He's great.
joe rogan
It's those guys, man.
This is the core comedy store group.
steve rannazzisi
Could I ask you a question?
Sure.
Your advice on something.
I was listening to one of the podcasts you were talking about going through a period where you were on television and still doing stand-up, but you felt old...
Your shit was getting old and you were getting tired of it.
I've just recently gone through that.
I think I'm coming out of it.
I'm not sure.
How did you know?
Was it a feeling you had where you were like, I feel fucking fake right now?
How did you get yourself out of it?
joe rogan
Just stop doing that shit.
Just stop.
Write new stuff.
Abandon the old material.
If you haven't recorded it, just put it on a recording.
Make sure you do an album, do a CD, do a DVD, do something.
But record it and move on.
steve rannazzisi
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's important, man.
I didn't do that nearly as much when I was younger, and I appreciate my act, and I appreciate the process a lot more now, and I don't take it for granted nearly as much now.
Before, when my act was just completely solid, and it was, you know, this is what I did for the next couple of years, and I really didn't add too much to it.
There was a period in the 90s where I did that, where...
It just wasn't...
Stand-up wasn't the same thing as it is now.
Now stand-up is like this living thing that's constantly changing and evolving and I can't wait to get rid of my material to come out with new shit.
It's scary.
It's scary.
It's scary to abandon...
You know you have bits that are just proven gems.
steve rannazzisi
I know.
It's tough to let those fucking bits go.
unidentified
It's tough.
joe rogan
You got to though, dude.
You got to.
I have hours of those things just laying around that I don't even remember anymore.
They're not even mine anymore.
They're the ethers.
They're peoples.
They're my fans stuff, you know?
The Anna Nicole Smith, I don't know how to do that anymore.
The Tiger's fucking bit, I don't know how to do that.
Hugh Hefner bit, I don't know how to do that.
Those bits are gone.
I don't know how to do them anymore.
steve rannazzisi
Do people shout out?
joe rogan
Very rarely the old ones.
It's more the new ones now.
brian redban
You pulled Noah's Ark out of the balloon pretty well.
joe rogan
That's because I was high as fuck, son.
I was tuned into the ether.
So, again, this weekend, Sam Tripoli and Tom Segura and me at Cobb's Comedy Club Thursday, Friday, and Saturday.
I believe Saturday sold out.
I'm not sure.
I think most of the shows are almost sold out, so there's not much left.
And we are doing Sal's Comedy Hole Wednesday, tomorrow night at 8 p.m.
What are you doing tomorrow night?
You around?
steve rannazzisi
No, I'm going to Vegas.
joe rogan
Powerful Vegas.
What are you doing?
steve rannazzisi
I got a bachelor party I'm going to for the three or four days.
joe rogan
Stay safe, son.
Don't do anything crazy.
steve rannazzisi
Relaxing.
Getting older.
joe rogan
So that's it.
We will be back tomorrow.
Tomorrow we got Doug Benson with us.
Is there any other gigs you want to plug?
steve rannazzisi
I'm doing with Brian Callen, the Wrecker Theater.
Where's that?
In Baltimore, Memorial Day weekend, Saturday night.
We're doing two shows at the theater, me and Brian Callen.
joe rogan
Nice.
steve rannazzisi
And then, not this weekend, but next weekend, I'm in Philadelphia at Helium Comedy Club.
joe rogan
How do you and Brian do that?
Do you do like a co-headliner thing?
steve rannazzisi
We haven't done it together yet.
Yeah, we haven't done it.
joe rogan
Who organized this?
steve rannazzisi
Our agent.
We have the same.
They sent this out and do it together.
joe rogan
So you just flip a coin, like you open one, he'll open the other?
steve rannazzisi
I think that's how we'll do it.
I haven't talked to Brian about it, but I figure that's how we'll do it.
joe rogan
Powerful.
Powerful.
Okay, that's it, ladies and gentlemen.
We'll be back tomorrow with Doug Benson.
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steve rannazzisi
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
And I got one for Steve Renner.
unidentified
It's easy.
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
And that's it.
unidentified
All right.
joe rogan
Follow Steve on Twitter.
Oh, this is a tough one.
unidentified
Ready for this?
joe rogan
S-T-E-V-E. Now here, it's Ranna-Z-Z. So there's almost a Nazi in there, but there's two Zs.
It's Steve and then R-A-N-N-A-Z-Z-I-S-I. Learn it.
brian redban
You need to change that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Why don't you just change it?
steve rannazzisi
No way.
I'm too deep now.
I'm too far in.
joe rogan
He's too far in.
steve rannazzisi
I'm in the grid.
joe rogan
It's fucking with your Twitter accounts, though.
I guarantee you.
steve rannazzisi
Oh, I'm sure it is.
brian redban
It took me like 10 minutes to figure out how to spell it.
unidentified
Good.
joe rogan
Yeah, you know what I did?
steve rannazzisi
Work.
joe rogan
On the Twitter page, if you put in the at sign and then start Steve, it shows me all the Steves that I have.
steve rannazzisi
Oh, really?
joe rogan
And then the R, and then it showed me you as an option.
I'm like, yes.
steve rannazzisi
There it is.
Thank God.
Otherwise, you'd have been like, fuck it.
I'm on the show at 3 o'clock.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Thank you, everybody.
And we'll see you tomorrow.
Love you, bitches.
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