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Feb. 10, 2011 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #79 - Jon Lajoie
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unidentified
We're a phone company.
I make 12 bucks an hour, but that's all I need.
I live in a small apartment on a quiet street.
I don't go out too much.
I like to watch TV. I can't afford a car.
I use public transportation.
I don't mind.
I read till I reach my destination Sometimes a newspaper, sometimes a book The amount of money I save, this shit is off the hook And I'm not very good with the women I'm a pretty shy person and I'm average looking Last time I had sex was in 2003 and I'm ashamed to admit, but it wasn't free.
I'm just a regular, everyday, normal guy.
I get nervous in social situations, motherfuckers.
I'm just a regular, everyday, normal guy.
I get constipated once a And I make pretty good spaghetti sauce, motherfucker.
And I get scared when I go see the dentist.
Oh, no you didn't.
joe rogan
The Pauly Shore of Everyday Life.
unidentified
Oh, dude.
jon lajoie
I'm so worried.
I'm not going to meet him.
joe rogan
He doesn't know about it.
jon lajoie
No, I know he doesn't, because he asked me.
unidentified
Buddy, I'm too busy.
jon lajoie
He actually called my manager and wanted me to do something like some special he was doing.
I'm like, he does not know.
He's never heard anything I've done.
joe rogan
He just wants you because you're becoming famous.
We are joined on the podcast today by Jean Lajoie.
That is the correct pronunciation, sir?
I got it right?
jon lajoie
Thank you.
joe rogan
Fantastic comedian from Montreal, Canada.
One of my favorite cities in the world.
Before we even get started, we are sponsored by The Fleshlight.
If you go to JoeRogan.net and enter in the code name Rogan, you get 15% off.
Have you ever used one of those things, man?
unidentified
You know what?
jon lajoie
I'm going to be weird.
I've used, like, I don't know if it's a competitor thing.
Like, I haven't, but no.
joe rogan
How could you know any word?
I mean, how could you not know?
jon lajoie
If you guys have one for me, I'd definitely, I'd love to fuck it too.
I love that shit.
joe rogan
Well, this one has been around, and everybody's been fingering it since the beginning of the year, so we're going to have to get you a new one.
jon lajoie
No, I'll take that one.
joe rogan
You sure you want it?
It's the butthole version, bro.
brian redban
It's good.
joe rogan
You don't want to be caught at home with the butthole version.
At least if you're caught with the vagina version, it's like, yeah, you're a pervert, but, you know, whatever.
If you just run around, just...
unidentified
Why?
brian redban
It's just tighter.
joe rogan
That's better.
Fucking rubber buttholes.
brian redban
Tighter's better, right?
Tighter girls are better.
joe rogan
It's just what it represents, man.
brian redban
It represents...
Girls' buttholes!
joe rogan
You want to fuck girls in the butt so bad, you have a fake one.
And not even, like, the rest of the girl attached to it.
You don't even have a fake body.
You just have the fake butthole.
You're just stuffing it in that fake butthole like some fucking fiend.
unidentified
Ha ha!
joe rogan
Some butt-sex fiend.
jon lajoie
Way to sell them, man.
Way to sell them.
joe rogan
It's a fucking fantastic thing, though.
jon lajoie
Here, feel it.
You feel what it feels like.
joe rogan
This one no one has had sex with.
A couple dudes have fingered it.
jon lajoie
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
I think Eddie Bravo might have licked his finger before he stuck it in there.
jon lajoie
Oh, yeah, I did.
joe rogan
Weird, right?
jon lajoie
Dude, I'm not weird about it.
Like, I don't care.
It's fucking good.
Like, what's that, or me fucking this, or fucking my hands?
joe rogan
Yeah, exactly.
It's a weird thing, though.
It's most certainly absolutely embarrassing.
It's embarrassing to a lot of people.
jon lajoie
I think buying it would be the worst, but now you can get it online, which is...
joe rogan
But you know, it's like they only get you with stuff like that if you get embarrassed by it.
Then it becomes a shameful thing.
Like if someone comes in my office and goes, what do you, fuck this thing?
Do you fuck this thing?
I'd be like, yeah.
Yeah, fuck it.
Like, what do you care?
You know, you can't get me with that.
But to a lot of people, you say to them, hey, what are you, fucking that tube over there?
And they get red and they feel like a loser.
jon lajoie
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Can't let other motherfuckers define you, ladies and gentlemen.
That's my message, alright?
You wanna fuck that tube?
Fuck that tube, son.
jon lajoie
Fuck it all.
My cleaning lady just, like, she comes in and, like, I have shit, you know, that I don't necessarily hide.
joe rogan
Tissues and shit?
jon lajoie
Well, not even just, like, just, like, stuff, you know, some fun toys that I use with, you know, some ladies.
joe rogan
Oh, dildos and shit.
jon lajoie
Yeah.
joe rogan
Goddamn, my man goes deep.
unidentified
Yeah.
jon lajoie
No, like, my cleaning lady, I love it.
She's like, she'll clean my plate, and she'll be like, oh, she'll find them and just put them on top of a dresser.
And she'll be like, I don't know where to put these, John.
joe rogan
Yeah, what the fuck is that like for her?
Picking up your dirty, slimy, frosted...
It looks like a donut.
Like, frosted donut dildo.
jon lajoie
Unclean, just lying under the bed.
brian redban
Recently, have you noticed, like, girls...
Like, different girlfriends don't like using, like, old dildos?
Like, would they...
I always had, like, dildos.
jon lajoie
Of course, girls.
brian redban
Well, I started to, like, try to put them in its own packaging and stuff like that.
joe rogan
No, dude.
brian redban
So I would keep the packaging mint.
jon lajoie
You're just a cheap motherfucker.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's ridiculous.
How much is a dildo?
They're only, like, $10.
brian redban
No, I would buy, like, I'd buy good ones, you know, like the, whatever, the dolphins and the dolphin.
unidentified
A dolphin?
brian redban
It was, like, $90.
jon lajoie
Really?
brian redban
That's, like, the PlayStation of a fucking dildo.
unidentified
Wow.
jon lajoie
Dude, that girl's, like, this has been inside some other girl's pussy with you and, like, push-shoving it in there, like...
She doesn't want...
brian redban
Yeah, but she wants these fingers.
They're washed.
joe rogan
That's a good point, man.
jon lajoie
It is a good point.
joe rogan
But it doesn't matter because it's still your body and somehow or another it makes it okay.
Instead of some rubber rabbit that you stick in a chick's neck and asshole at the same time.
jon lajoie
Is that what it was?
brian redban
Yeah, it was a rabbit.
jon lajoie
And it's worse also that you bought it specifically to fuck some other girl with it.
It wasn't like, oh, I found this lying around and I just fucked this other girl.
It was like you bought it with this other chick and fucked her.
And then you're like, oh, I'm not with her anymore, and now I'm with this other girl.
joe rogan
Yeah.
You've got to be careful getting into that fucking robotics world.
You know?
You're fucking setting a pace you can't really match up with.
Once you fuck a chick with one of those rabbit things, and it's beating the fuck out of the sides of her pussy, it's just Anderson Silva kneeing the sides of her pussy, just slamming it.
Don't, don't, don't, don't, don't.
And that little rabbit ears are jamming her in her butthole.
What the fuck are you going to do?
What are you going to do with your average dick?
jon lajoie
With your human dick.
joe rogan
Yeah, what are you going to do with that fleshy little soft thing that you've got to worry about if she gets on top and she might break it?
You ever have that happen, man, where it almost breaks?
brian redban
No.
joe rogan
Where you get a fallout and then it hits the taint?
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
When it pulls out.
Dude, guys have gone to the hospital for this shit.
brian redban
Are you serious?
joe rogan
Yes, yes.
You can tear.
Your dick breaks.
And not only does it break, but a lot of times it stays crooked forever.
brian redban
Oh, I think I broke my dick before then.
joe rogan
I bet you did, man.
I think I broke mine a little.
unidentified
I didn't think it was possible, so I always just went, oh, yeah, it feels like it's going to break.
No, no.
jon lajoie
Mine kind of broke over time.
brian redban
Really?
joe rogan
It's just like an old ship.
It's fucking hit too many rocks.
brian redban
Yeah, mine looks like a broken nose.
jon lajoie
Waves.
A lot of waves, man.
joe rogan
A lot of spilled beer rotting the dick.
jon lajoie
A lot of waves hitting the left side.
joe rogan
There's this dude on my message board.
I'm sorry, man.
I forget your name.
But he has a fucking giant hog.
And his picture's totally bent.
His dick's completely bent to the right.
So much so that it's subverter.
That's who you're at.
And that's his name on the message board.
His dick is so ridiculous, it looks like it's photoshopped.
I mean, there's no way it could be that fat because he's a little dude.
Giant dick.
And no way it could be taking such a hard angle.
And he sends it to chicks and shit.
I would have created some drama online because he sent it to some girls.
jon lajoie
So he sent you a picture of his dick.
joe rogan
He puts them online, man.
This guy puts them online for everybody to see.
brian redban
I would love to have my dick pointed up, like bent up, so it just hit the top of the girls.
joe rogan
How many cock pictures have you seen online of dudes that you know online?
brian redban
Millie!
I mean...
unidentified
I mean, on the message board, everybody's always pulling their dick out.
More in person, unfortunately.
joe rogan
Well, because we hang out with comics.
John is from Montreal, Canada.
Is it like that up there?
Do dudes whip their dicks out all the time, or is it too cold?
jon lajoie
I think it's a little cold.
I had a buddy who had the Prince Albert thing.
joe rogan
Oh, piercings?
jon lajoie
Yeah, and he just loved whipping out his dick and showing people.
joe rogan
What the fuck is up with that guy?
jon lajoie
Oh, dude.
Seriously.
joe rogan
That's some fucking crazy shit.
I've never looked at my dick and thought about throwing some metal through it.
jon lajoie
Like a hole through the tip of your dick.
What are you fucking like?
brian redban
It's cut open like a sausage.
Have you seen that?
joe rogan
Oh, I've seen that.
brian redban
That's Prince Albert, right?
jon lajoie
No, no, no.
joe rogan
That's another one.
What's that called?
jon lajoie
There's like a ring right through the tip of the dick.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's the Prince Albert.
But the other one that you're talking about is more of a body modification thing.
They cut into the penis and they slice it open like a hot dog.
brian redban
Yeah, like a hot dog.
unidentified
Whoa.
joe rogan
It's common.
It's common.
It's really common.
jon lajoie
Hot dog in the microwave.
joe rogan
Yeah, it must just spray all over the fucking place.
They have no control over the piss.
It looks horrendous, too.
It looks terrifying.
But it's become some barb.
jon lajoie
No, it's like to be cool.
joe rogan
Yeah, some weirdo just wants to change the way he looks.
jon lajoie
Dude, how about listening to some fucking, I don't know, indie rock albums to try to be cool?
Buy some records, dude.
joe rogan
You don't have to butcher your dick.
jon lajoie
Oh, God, man.
joe rogan
It's a weird thing, man.
It's a weird thing.
It's like, where do you draw that line?
When you see a chick with a lip ring, like, ooh, you got a ring on your lip.
Your upper lip, there's a ring on it.
A metal ring.
Okay.
How far are you willing to go?
Because you're already in crazy town.
You've already got staples in your face, you fucking freak.
What are you doing?
jon lajoie
You ever had a girl with the clit ring?
Yeah.
That's kind of cool, though.
joe rogan
It's kind of cool, but it also kind of seems like she's a mess.
jon lajoie
Oh, and you know that if you're decorating down there, it's because you have open houses all the time.
And you're going down here, and I'm like, wait a minute.
unidentified
Ah!
joe rogan
Dude, you gotta write that down.
If that's an ad-lib, shit.
Please, that's a bit.
Don't forget that one, dude.
jon lajoie
We'll hold here.
joe rogan
That's a goddamn genius bit.
That's hilarious.
There's a thing about girls with clit rings.
You gotta know that if a girl's decorating down there, she's having open houses all the time.
Dude, that shit is brilliant.
jon lajoie
See, I can't sit down and write comedy, and then all of a sudden, I just fucking...
joe rogan
Yeah, I do the same thing, man.
I have ideas, and I have to slam them onto a piece of paper, or I have to get it down as quick as possible, too.
Because five minutes later, I'm like a fucking idiot savant.
I won't know what I said.
brian redban
That's why these podcasts are actually pretty good, because you can actually write comedy while you're talking.
unidentified
Sort of, yeah.
brian redban
There's been so many times where, like, I do Spider-Man, me talking about Spider-Man, where it's me throwing cum on walls of hotels, and I do it on stage now, and it fucking kills.
That's great.
jon lajoie
Did you do that for real?
Yeah, I really did.
joe rogan
He's a mess, motherfucker.
It's walls that you and I have to go and touch.
unidentified
I know.
joe rogan
You know, you're in your underwear, and you're putting your socks on, you might lean against the wall, and you could easily be touching this creep's loads.
brian redban
Even worse, I play chicken, I throw it on the ceiling, I keep my mouth open, and...
unidentified
Yo, to play chicken, you have to play with someone else.
joe rogan
That's just an excuse to be gay for yourself, bro.
brian redban
It's as if I dart out of the way, but I don't, and that's why I get ID for cigarettes.
Look at my skin, so...
joe rogan
That is an excuse for you to be gay for yourself.
I'm not playing a part of this.
jon lajoie
I play cum chicken with myself.
Like, how fucking gay.
But that's not even gay, that's like...
brian redban
No, it's just recycling.
joe rogan
It's just bizarre.
Jim Norton has this great bit about this chick that used to make him do things.
I guess it's his girlfriend.
She tells him what to do.
She used to be a dominatrix or something nutty like that.
And Jim comes on her tits and she makes him lick it up.
And it's a true story.
And he's talking about it.
It's fucking hilarious, but it's also your fucking toes curl up, your butthole crunches up, you close your nostrils when you hear it, your whole body constricts, you're like, don't eat your own cum!
unidentified
Dude.
joe rogan
There's something about it.
It's just...
jon lajoie
Yeah, well, you guys were talking on one of the podcasts this week.
Some guy was...
unidentified
Who was he?
jon lajoie
Was it Ift?
joe rogan
Eddie Ift?
jon lajoie
Yeah, Eddie Ift.
Funny guy.
Yeah.
He was talking about some guy sucking some guy...
Or letting some guy suck his dick so that he can fuck this hot chick.
unidentified
Oh, it's Fred.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, yeah.
That was Eddie Ift.
Yeah, his friend did that.
Yeah.
jon lajoie
Yeah, and you're like...
My manager tells me the story of him and his buddy.
They hooked up with these two chicks, and they're at the hotel room with these two chicks, and the two chicks start making out and everything, and they go, if you guys make out, we will just do everything, but you guys have to make out.
And my manager's just like, okay, fuck it, I'm out of here, and the guy's chasing him around the room going, stop being such a fucking pussy and make out with that.
unidentified
Oh my god!
jon lajoie
Stop being such a...
Come on, dude.
Just make out with me, dude.
And you're like, really?
joe rogan
What the fuck, man?
How bad do you need to get laid, you creep?
You need a scar in your brain for life?
Because the moment you nut, the moment you...
What the fuck have I done?
He would immediately recognize the depths of your depravity.
jon lajoie
And I think I'd let some guy suck my dick before I make out with a guy.
That's way more intimate.
joe rogan
I don't know, man.
Listen, at least you can control yourself.
I mean, you can defend yourself.
Some dude has his mouth over your dick.
He could just clamp down on that thing at any moment, and that's the end of your dick.
jon lajoie
Yeah, that's true.
joe rogan
Fuck all that, man.
brian redban
How do people on Saturday Night Live do a thing?
joe rogan
They suck dicks on Saturday Night Live?
What the fuck are you talking about?
brian redban
I mean, like, everybody does that.
joe rogan
Everybody sucking dick on Saturday Night Live?
jon lajoie
They make out with each other and shit, right?
I guess when there's a live studio audience, it's different than being in, like, a hotel room.
joe rogan
Hey, there's a lot of guys who think it's funny to just be nutty like that.
You know, that was a big thing the Hells Angels used to do in the 60s.
Hunter S. Thompson wrote about it.
You know, about how in that movie...
The Hells Angels book that he wrote.
He wrote about how they would try to freak out squares.
Like, when they were around, like, regular people, they would just start making out with each other.
Big, burly guys.
Like, tongue and all.
They're just...
There's all this video of it.
The documentary Gonzo, great documentary.
jon lajoie
That was narrated by Johnny Depp.
joe rogan
Super inspirational, makes you want to write, makes you really appreciate his whole outlook on things.
And also recognize him for real.
They didn't try to make him look like anything other than what he was.
Flawed, brilliant but flawed, crazy all over the place, but look what he produced.
But it was also like, look how he fell.
Like, look how it all fell apart for him.
Look how his, you know, his whole life and career.
jon lajoie
Yeah, when he starts losing hope in the end, when he said all the uphill battles, he said that, yeah.
joe rogan
Scary shit, man, because, you know, as any artist, I think, I think we all look at ourselves and, you know, you look at, you know, what's your eventual take on this going to be?
Like, what's your body of work going to be like after 20 years or 30 years?
And at the end, are you going to still be enjoying this?
Like, look at this brilliant guy.
Like, what did he do wrong?
Like, why was some of his shit so good?
Some of the shit that he wrote.
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas is still one of my favorite books.
Just a fucking mad, crazy book.
This dude and his friend just dropping acid and just fucking people over on hotel bills.
It's a great fucking book.
It's alive.
You know what I mean?
It's like his writing.
There was some shit in there that was alive.
b-real
And it's not everybody can do that.
joe rogan
I don't know what it is or why a person can or can't.
But what drives me crazy is when they can do something like that and then they just still fall apart.
You know, it's like it's almost like what brings them to the dance kills them when they get there.
jon lajoie
Yeah.
Well, it's because nothing is constant, you know?
Like, if you're so passionate about something, there's something that you need to nurture in that.
And we're constantly changing.
Nothing is, like, forever going to be that way.
So, five years from now, like, if you don't cultivate that kind of life and everything, you can all of a sudden, five years down the road, just not give a fuck about, like, and just completely, like, be a completely different...
Which is fine.
We need to...
joe rogan
You have to be comfortable in the struggle.
And part of the struggle is constantly creating, constantly coming up with new things.
Because as soon as you stop doing that, if you stop creating and you stop exploring it and utilizing that part of your mind and whatever it is, your spirit, it goes away.
The only reason why it's there is because it took you fucking 10, 15 years of going on stage over and over again to cultivate this thing where you know how to do it correctly.
You get into this groove.
But that can easily slip away from you.
When I was on news radio, There was like two years when I was on where I didn't write a fucking single joke.
All I did was perform at the Laugh Factory and I performed at the Comedy Store and I didn't do any road work at all.
And I didn't write at all.
I did the sitcom and the sitcom was a lot of work.
We'd work long hours and I'd be tired and I would show up at the comedy clubs and I just had no ambition.
You know, I didn't have any new material.
It was all the stuff that I'd been doing for years already, and I'd lost all connection with what I was saying.
You know what I mean?
Like, some bits, they get to a point where you're just kind of saying a bunch of things that you know will work.
It's like, I'm not even thinking about this.
I'm not in the moment where I'm saying this.
And anyway, I didn't realize it until I had some writers come to see me, some guys that were writers on news radio.
Oh, it was ugly.
And it was a late night set at the Comedy Store.
And the late nights at the Comedy Store in the main room when there was only like fucking 15 people, that place is a vacuum, man.
It's a cavern.
And I went up there and just really had a shitty set.
It just felt uncomfortable.
And that made me really realize, like, God, you don't even work on your comedy anymore.
Like, what the fuck are you doing?
Like, it's going to go away.
Like, the thing that was the most fun for you to do, now you're not doing it anymore.
And now when you do it, you're like weird about it.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
So it made me sort of reorganize and figure it out.
But I think for a lot of guys, they just start doing...
They become successful or they somehow or another get enough success so that they can make a living.
And then they just kind of stop.
It's weird.
jon lajoie
That's when you kind of die.
It's so sad.
I feel myself.
I constantly have to keep...
I go...
I'm so new to this comedy game and...
I find myself like when I was just in my little tiny apartment.
I mean now I'm still in a tiny apartment in Hollywood.
But you just change your surroundings and the changes of people around you.
And now all of a sudden it's a business and you have an agent and a manager and they have plans, a career plan.
And all of a sudden you're like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
What's that little spark that I had inside me?
What was pushing me to do this in the first place?
And as soon as you lose that...
You're just completely lost.
joe rogan
And it happens so easy.
They can talk you into being business-minded and business-oriented.
I've talked to comics that I really like.
They're interesting guys.
And they'll start talking to you about liquor sales and shit.
I'm like, how do you even know that?
Why are you talking about this?
brian redban
Have you ever thought about doing a song about Mountain Dew, though?
jon lajoie
Dude, I've approached...
When you're online, you have a following.
Dude, you get approached by so many people.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, your videos have ridiculous numbers.
The average everyday normal guy is like, what is it, 20 million?
brian redban
Yeah, almost 21 million.
joe rogan
That's some serious numbers, man.
Do you put ads on those and make money off that shit?
jon lajoie
Well, there's a partnership program at YouTube, and they'll put the little ads at the bottom.
joe rogan
And so they send you checks for that shit?
jon lajoie
Yeah, I make a little bit of money on there.
joe rogan
It's not nothing spectacular?
jon lajoie
No, it's nothing.
I have to do other things, even to pay just my bills.
joe rogan
I heard that there's some dudes that have kids' ones on there.
And these kids' videos have such ridiculous, very regular, repeated customers.
And so the numbers are huge, like 5 million.
And now these guys are making ridiculous money from YouTube ads.
brian redban
I've always heard that too, but I've never really thought it was real.
joe rogan
This is coming from Dana White.
brian redban
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, so it's real.
jon lajoie
No, there are some kids who...
Like, I put out videos, and mine's more like content.
You allow sketches and songs, and I create the content, and I'll shoot it, edit it, and put it out.
It's like, you know, I don't have a TV show, so this is me doing my own content, and I fucking love it, and the creative freedom that comes along with it.
No one's looking over your shoulder.
You're just doing whatever you want.
And I get a decent amount of hits.
joe rogan
That's why it's so good, too.
jon lajoie
Oh, it's amazing.
I'll never give that up.
I'll never give that up.
joe rogan
It's also why your stuff is so good, because it's coming from you.
When one person does this, and it sounds crazy, but I really believe this, when one person is involved in creating something and then they put it out, it's almost like you get a sense of their personality.
You get a glimpse into their creative, whatever the frequency they tune into.
When a bunch of people When people get in it, it can be really funny, but you might not enjoy it as much.
jon lajoie
It gets watered down a little.
joe rogan
I don't know if that's real.
That sounds like totally hippie nonsense.
It's why we appreciate people so much when they do something and we enjoy it.
Think about what that's like.
If it's a band, some band that you fucking love, you gotta hang out with Trent Reznor when you were a kid.
What are you doing?
You're appreciating something this guy's producing and creating.
That's really what it's all about.
That's what being a fan is about.
jon lajoie
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
It's a trippy fucking thing, man.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
jon lajoie
No, it's crazy.
And I don't really even think about that.
I don't know how you get, like, I do the shows and people, anyone just goes, dude, I love what you do.
I'm so, like, taken, and I'm so...
joe rogan
It's weird.
jon lajoie
I'm very recently in this, but, like, I'm always like, fuck, so thankful.
I'm like, wow, dude, like, you know, you're watching, you enjoy it, and, wow, fuck, it's just a beautiful thing.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a great exchange.
Of course you gotta deal with a bunch of nuts.
unidentified
Yeah.
brian redban
Did you ever watch his video, High as Fuck?
joe rogan
Yeah, I've seen that one too.
That's great.
We'll play that one at the end.
brian redban
Alright, cool.
joe rogan
That's a teaser, ladies and gentlemen.
We'll let you know at the end we're going to have a juicy song for you.
Anybody who's having a problem with this podcast, getting it from iTunes, looking for the latest episodes every time, it's way easier if you just subscribe.
If you subscribe, you get them as soon as we put it up there.
But apparently Apple has some weird new way they're handling podcasts now where it doesn't allow you to ping the server.
This is all complicated shit, but the long and short of it is The best way to get the podcast the quickest is just subscribe on iTunes.
Or you can always go to JoeRogan.net and right after the podcast is over, within a couple hours, Brian has a link up and you can download it from that.
So that's easy too.
So that's the way to do it.
Don't be whining anymore.
jon lajoie
How does that work on your website?
Does it go?
Because I'm so, like, technologically, I download on iTunes, go straight to my library, syncs with my iPod.
Like, if I go on your website, does it go right into the iTunes or drag and drop?
joe rogan
Well, it's just a file.
unidentified
Yeah, you just download an MP3. Yeah, it's just an MP3 file.
joe rogan
Because I want it to be available not just for iTunes.
You know, I want it on Zoom.
And even if you've got some wonky old MP3 recorder, one of them little USB jammies that doesn't even have, like, a...
brian redban
Yeah, if you're in the Zune marketplace, just hold down your power button, wait for it to reset, and then relaunch it.
joe rogan
Are you making jokes?
Is that a Microsoft joke, Brian?
jon lajoie
Yeah, I'm so clueless.
joe rogan
He tried to sneak a Microsoft joke in there.
You have to rewrote the device.
The device is no good.
Hey, Verizon, you cunts.
What's up with this?
The new iPhone has a world chip in it, but you don't turn it on, you fucking weirdos.
unidentified
You're scared.
joe rogan
You're scared your network's going to crumble, bitches.
That's what it is.
They've been talking so much shit on AT&T. They don't understand the power of the iPhone.
When that motherfucker comes, a wave of freaks are going to come over to your side.
It's going to be like 15% of the people from AT&T they're estimating are going to vacate their contracts early.
That's a large number, man.
They're seeing even more, like business partners.
brian redban
You know what?
I was doing an AT&T commercial last night.
I was sitting there, and I was sending all these photos to my Flickr, and I was also trying to download this YouTube video, and then somebody calls me.
If somebody would have called me during that on the Verizon network, all that shit would have, like, failed.
joe rogan
You're right.
brian redban
You're right.
And so I was, like, thinking, that's pretty big for me.
unidentified
For you.
brian redban
I'm a heavy user of internet and multitasking and stuff like that.
unidentified
That's what's called a power user.
brian redban
Yeah, but even TwitVid.
If you're on Twitter and you're loading a video and then somebody calls you halfway through it, guess what?
That video's not loading up.
joe rogan
That's right.
Yeah, that's a good point.
brian redban
Fuck that.
joe rogan
That's a good point, if you look at it that way.
Yeah, I don't understand why Verizon can't do that.
From what I understand, though, when they get to 4G, that won't be an issue anymore.
Is that correct?
unidentified
Yeah.
brian redban
Yeah, 4G won't have it.
joe rogan
So 4G, even though it's CDMA as opposed to...
brian redban
See, Verizon's network's good, but it's actually just older, like an older technology.
joe rogan
It's older technology, and it's called CDMA, right?
brian redban
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
And for some reason, even though it's older technology, it penetrates deeper into buildings.
brian redban
Yeah, I guess that's one of the...
joe rogan
So it gives you more cancer.
It gives you better cancer.
But I got a new title to my book.
It's called, If You Get Cancer From Your Cell Phone, You're a Fucking Pussy.
unidentified
Yeah.
brian redban
I know what you really wanted to say.
unidentified
What?
Pussies.
brian redban
Your retired word.
joe rogan
No.
No, I wouldn't say no.
It'd be more you're a pussy than an F.A. word, F.A. G.G. word, O.T. word.
brian redban
You know what, though?
I mean, has anyone done research like on ball cancer?
Is ball cancer up right now?
Because your fucking cell phones buy your balls 90% of the time.
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't know what the fuck you're doing with your phone, man.
Don't stick it under your balls.
brian redban
Well, it's on the pocket.
That's like being on the side of your head, right?
joe rogan
Same distance?
I guess so.
It's pretty close to your balls.
jon lajoie
I hear people talking about having a laptop on your lap.
It's so close to your balls and all your shit.
I can imagine some kind of...
joe rogan
The laptop, though, it's heat.
It's the battery.
brian redban
I use that for it as a form of birth control right now.
unidentified
Do you?
joe rogan
Kill your balls?
brian redban
Yeah, I do it on purpose.
joe rogan
Torture those little faggots.
unidentified
Oops, I said it.
joe rogan
It tricked me.
unidentified
It tricked me.
joe rogan
It tricked me to put it in my head.
jon lajoie
I'm Canadian.
We don't have that word in Canada.
joe rogan
Well, it shouldn't be in America either.
I mean, not that it shouldn't be said.
It just shouldn't be a word that has all this power, especially a good, juicy one.
Jamie Kilstein told me he retired it recently, too.
brian redban
Really?
Every time you accidentally say it, you should do something like you have to buy an Elton John CD or you have to buy...
unidentified
You know what I mean?
brian redban
You have to watch one episode of Ellen.
joe rogan
I have to watch a full George Michael video.
brian redban
Yeah, you have to give something back.
joe rogan
I love that Freedom song, man.
Remember that time we sang it on the podcast?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's a great goddamn jam.
brian redban
Remember when I sang it in the hot tub?
joe rogan
No.
I blocked that out, Brian.
Shut up.
jon lajoie
Shut up, Brian.
joe rogan
What the fuck, bro?
So are you touring?
Do you do...
jon lajoie
Yeah, I mean, I've been touring quite a bit for the past two years.
I took a little break because I wanted to write some stuff and do some more of the internet stuff.
joe rogan
But when you do it, do you do it like go out for a weekend, come back?
jon lajoie
Yeah, I started doing that.
I have Minneapolis.
I'm so bad.
I don't even know my dates.
But I'd like to have some Minneapolis and like March or April.
joe rogan
What's your website?
jon lajoie
Yeah, let's check out the website.
brian redban
He's got a cool website.
Michael Keaton's on it.
jon lajoie
Yeah, it's johnlejoie.com.
joe rogan
And spell that motherfucker.
jon lajoie
Yeah, good luck.
J-O-N-L-A-J-O-I-E. Or just go to, like, YouTube and, like, Google, like, and just search showing genitals.
joe rogan
I'm sorry, go ahead.
brian redban
Have you ever thought about just changing your last name, like, John L.A. or something?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Johnny L.A. Like, Kevin James had to do that.
His last name was Nipfing.
Really?
Yeah, it was really tricky.
And him and his brother Gary.
And Gary picked Valentine and Kevin picked James because it was the name of his old Kung Fu instructor.
brian redban
My last name's not Red Band.
jon lajoie
Where did Red Band come from?
brian redban
The movie trailers, when you see a movie.
jon lajoie
Oh, the Red Band trailer.
brian redban
I used to be a projectionist most of my life.
jon lajoie
I like his videos.
They're really good.
joe rogan
We've got to figure out how to make money with it.
Anybody out there with a suggestion, keep it to yourself, freaks, because I don't know you.
brian redban
Porn stars?
joe rogan
Porn stars is the way to go?
Comedy porn?
brian redban
Comedy porn.
jon lajoie
Yeah, making money on the internet.
joe rogan
That's what Brian needs.
Brian needs more porn stars in his life.
For sure.
I know.
jon lajoie
How do you get into the porn circle?
joe rogan
Oh, he's deep.
brian redban
It's really easy.
You went into a podcast?
joe rogan
Is that all it takes?
unidentified
Go to my house.
brian redban
We'll have a podcast and you can interview a porn star from behind.
jon lajoie
Jesus.
joe rogan
Get deep in the crazy, son.
brian redban
Now, do you write all your stuff yourself?
And, like, do you just sit there and think of a good idea?
And, I mean, did you start off, like, doing, like, you know, just using a cell phone camera, playing around?
jon lajoie
What it was was, like, I was, I went to theater school in Montreal, then I graduated, and I got a role on this French-language TV show, which, it was, you know, it was cool.
unidentified
It was great.
jon lajoie
I appreciate it.
joe rogan
It's a great job and everything, but it wasn't really what I wanted to do, you By the way, how much does it help with chicks being bilingual and the other languages?
French!
jon lajoie
Suck!
joe rogan
You must seem so sophisticated, especially if you know something about wine.
unidentified
That's all you need.
joe rogan
I mean, so many girls, you just tripped them so quickly.
jon lajoie
Dude, you can know nothing about wine.
joe rogan
All you'd have to do is just start talking about the area of France where these grapes are grown, and that bitch should get all moist on you.
Oh, Jean Lajoie.
Oh, Jean Lajoie.
jon lajoie
Yeah, no, it helps a little bit.
But it's weird in Montreal, like, if you don't, like, being an English dude in Montreal and on a French show, like, chicks like me because I had the English, the English side.
joe rogan
Oh, so the French chicks like you because you spoke English as well.
jon lajoie
Yeah, and then out here, it's kind of like, oh, really?
You're the The French thing is cool.
I thought you guys didn't like French people.
What's all that freedom fry shit?
joe rogan
Well, French Montreal is okay.
France is a different animal.
jon lajoie
We don't like that.
No one likes it.
joe rogan
We don't even like French fries anymore, bro.
It's freedom fries.
Ratatouille all the way.
So you were on this show, so you were on this French-speaking show, and you speak fluent French as well as English?
jon lajoie
Yes.
Well, not as well as English.
My dad's French-Canadian, so...
joe rogan
Is there a different...
I mean, the language is structured different.
Is comedy structured different when you do it?
jon lajoie
Yeah, I don't really do comedy in French.
It's a completely different beast.
joe rogan
They have a bunch in Montreal.
In Montreal, when they do the Just Full House Festival, they'll have all these guys speaking in France.
It's really weird.
jon lajoie
And they have super stars in French Canada.
joe rogan
Huge, that people have never heard of.
jon lajoie
Yeah, yeah.
Just to give you an example, there are 7 million or 8 million people in Quebec.
The show that I was on had 1.2 million people watching it every week.
On The League, that's what we get that's broadcast all over the United States.
They're very supportive of their culture, and they consume Quebecois culture, and they have huge comedy stars.
That's why they want their own country, because it's like a little country on its own.
On the French side, the English side is like English Canada anywhere else.
joe rogan
Quebec is a very strange area in and of itself that they want to separate from the rest of Canada.
It's like a constant issue.
What's that about?
jon lajoie
Well, I mean, it goes way back, but it's basically, you know, New France became, like, the English beat the French, and then, like, you had all this huge French population, and now it was English territory, and they were kind of, like, lax enough to go, okay, you can keep practicing your Catholicism and your things, we'll let you alone, but you're, you know, this is the British Empire, da-da-da.
But they kind of...
Yeah, I think.
Like, signs have to be more French than, larger in French than in English.
Like, a lot of things like that.
That are very controversial.
brian redban
Equal rights, right?
joe rogan
Well, it's just that you have to have, it has to be in French at all.
Like, you can go to Chinatown and there's some shit that has nothing in English on it.
And that's okay, right?
brian redban
Right.
Yeah, I don't feel sad to fuck.
jon lajoie
It's ridiculous.
No, I know.
It's very controversial.
But there are many things that they're trying to protect.
Because the fear is basically that 100 years down the road...
joe rogan
The French culture is going to go away.
jon lajoie
But I mean, you know, things change.
joe rogan
Guess what, man?
What are we going to do once we start reading minds and we can travel through time?
Are we still going to have to talk French, you fuck?
Is it that important, goddammit?
You're slowing down evolution, cunty.
If the language dies, it dies, man.
Isn't what you mean...
That's what's supposed to be important, right?
Your intent.
The way you fucking say it.
jon lajoie
Language is neutral.
joe rogan
They don't want their language to evolve.
If it gets absorbed, it gets evolved.
That's what happens.
jon lajoie
Sorry.
joe rogan
Doesn't mean it's bad.
jon lajoie
No, I'm not.
joe rogan
Right, Brian?
Goddammit?
jon lajoie
I'm going to get shit for this a little bit.
joe rogan
From the French?
jon lajoie
I'll just go, I'm not going to.
No, because I know.
joe rogan
How important it is?
jon lajoie
Especially artists on the French side, I've worked with quite a bit on that TV show.
Most of them are sovereignists or separatists.
joe rogan
Because they probably know they wouldn't survive if the full country could hear them.
They want to stay in one area and only speak French.
jon lajoie
I'm going to stay neutral on this topic.
joe rogan
Listen, I love Montreal and I love French Canada.
unidentified
Don't get me wrong.
joe rogan
That's not what I'm saying.
As a human being, I don't like getting attached to anything, man.
Especially getting attached to the way you say things in certain languages.
Who gives a fuck?
And everybody's like, someone said that to me, man.
You're not careful, man.
unidentified
Fucking English is going to be a second language and everybody's going to speak Spanish first.
joe rogan
I go, well, then I'll learn Spanish, you fucking dummy.
unidentified
Guess what?
joe rogan
Guess what, stupid?
It's not going to happen within my lifetime.
And if I grew up learning Spanish instead of English, does that really make a difference, goddammit?
Of course it doesn't, you fucking stooge.
What you're thinking is what's important.
It's not what language you think it in.
That's dumb.
It's better if we all have one language.
Let's get rid of...
I mean, we got rid of Latin, okay?
Can't we get rid of Chinese?
Let's do this.
Kick that shit out.
You guys know how to say English things.
jon lajoie
I don't think Chinese is going anywhere.
joe rogan
Come on.
Get rid of it.
The ultimate of a president got into office.
It's like, first of all, everybody's got to fucking learn English.
Done.
You want to really communicate?
It's real simple.
Learn English.
We won't bomb you.
You learn English.
Is that a deal?
The fuck?
Is it so hard?
And no secret languages.
Kill all your other languages.
Because I don't want you to be saying some shit that I don't understand.
Okay?
brian redban
When I was 17, I was on spring break.
joe rogan
But there's probably a lot of dudes that are listening to that going, Well, fuck yeah, man.
unidentified
He's got a fucking good point.
We do have all the bombs.
joe rogan
Fuck all those brown queers.
jon lajoie
All those brown queers in Quebec speaking French.
joe rogan
All over the world.
All of them, anyway.
Fuck even English if the Spanish win.
I'm on the Spanish side.
I'm on whoever's winning.
I'm with evolution, goddammit.
If Mexico comes over and takes over America, well, I guess we should have made cocaine legal, you fuck.
Look what you did, stupid.
The fucking Mexican gangsters take over the country.
They realize how soft we are.
We're creating a whole nation of savage killers down there.
Have you seen those video footages from LiveLeak where the 12-year-old hitmen are fucking torturing people before they kill them?
Yo, I mean, that's right there.
You can drive there.
This is nuts.
The fact that we're not dealing with that.
We shouldn't be in fucking Afghanistan.
It takes like 12 hours to get there on a plane.
We shouldn't be right next door where everyone's crazy, they're cutting people's fucking heads off and selling coke.
God damn, motherfuckers!
jon lajoie
How about on Hollywood fucking Boulevard?
joe rogan
The Mexicans are mad at me.
The French Canadians are mad at me.
I'm trying to piss off everybody today.
jon lajoie
Okay, who haven't you?
Are they gay?
I already said faggot.
joe rogan
Yeah, dude, so they're mad at me too.
jon lajoie
Everyone's on Verizon.
joe rogan
French Canadians, you know I love you.
I love you and I love your poutine.
I love the comedy works in Montreal, that little club.
I did it last time I was in Montreal.
jon lajoie
It's a great little club.
joe rogan
Fucking great, man.
You know, Montreal always confused me because I lived in Boston and I had this cold weather douchebag theory.
I was like, well, the reason why Boston people are so douchey is because it's cold as fuck up there and you get angry like six months out of here.
You know, mass holes, we call them.
And, you know, but I was like, but wait a minute.
I go up to Montreal.
It's, you know, three hours north or more, right?
Like, more driving.
Isn't it like four hours north?
jon lajoie
It's like four hours from Boston.
joe rogan
Four fucking hours in a car north of Boston.
And the people are cool as fuck.
And it's like a European city.
It's more sophisticated.
It's like the culture's totally different.
The women are so much nicer.
You know?
It's weird, man.
It's a weird, weird thing.
jon lajoie
Yeah.
And also, we're very polite.
So we kind of hide that shit.
Like, you guys are just like, fuck you.
And we're like...
Fuck this guy.
joe rogan
Yeah, but fuck this guy's way nicer to be around.
Keep it together, shithead.
jon lajoie
No, you guys, Boston, everyone from 18 to 20, everyone's always up in Montreal just partying.
I still don't understand 21 to drink.
joe rogan
It's good.
It's good because it makes it harder for people to get into bars that shouldn't be in bars.
And it's good because they don't know how to not drink and drive yet.
That's the scariest shit to me.
brian redban
They just got the license.
joe rogan
The scariest shit to me is kids that don't know how to drive and they're drinking.
I've seen stupid shit, man.
I've seen people, rear-end people.
I've seen many things.
I think it's a good thing.
I think they shouldn't be able to drive until they're 21. I shouldn't have been able to drive, but the problem is you have to work.
So you've got to let them drive at 18 or 17 or whatever the fuck it is.
I saw some fucking kid down the street the other day in his mom's Lexus.
It was a big Lexus truck and SUV. He couldn't have been more than 15, 16 years old.
And this kid was fucking riding my ass and weaving through traffic and cutting lanes off and going way over the speed limit.
I'm like, kid, you don't know how to drive yet.
You're taking a big chance with a large vehicle that doesn't stop well.
It doesn't turn well at all.
They're giant trucks.
And this fucking kid is driving like he's doing Formula One racing.
Scary as shit.
He got away with it.
I mean, he got home.
He didn't die.
But something could have happened easily.
Someone could have fucked up.
Someone could have ran off a curb.
He could have had to make a split-second move, and it would have been a wrap.
jon lajoie
Well, you think about it.
At 15, 16 years old, I was retarded.
joe rogan
Totally retarded.
jon lajoie
Like an idiot.
And to be behind the wheel controlling this huge hunk of metal, like around thousands of people, yeah, I don't think that's a good idea.
joe rogan
It's funny, this has been a topic of conversation recently, even on my message board, about people that were like 20. When I was 20, I was retarded.
Like, you know, don't tell me what the fuck is going on when you're 20. I don't want to hear you talk about, you know, what's wrong with the world when you're 20. And a lot of people are like, you know, back in the fucking middle ages, you know, 20 was middle-aged.
Don't discount my opinion because I'm 20 years old.
I totally agree with that.
jon lajoie
Do you have 10 kids and have you killed 15 people?
No, you're not the same person.
You're playing World of Warcraft in your mom's basement.
You're not the same 20 year old.
joe rogan
And it's not to undervalue your opinion or your observations.
You might be very intelligent.
You might have some observations that are very valid.
It's not saying that.
It's just that the fact that you're even confident enough to want people to listen to your opinion at 20 shows me you're on the wrong road.
Stop being cocky.
You should be just asking questions and looking around.
Just jumping in and trying to force your opinions on when you're 20. You don't really know that much.
You might have some information, but man, you look back on what you were like when you were 20. There's no 20-year-old that is going to be able to stand on television with a microphone and tell the world what needs to be fixed.
Just fucking stop, dude.
It's a developmental cycle.
You're very confident.
You're very intelligent.
Congratulations.
But don't get ahead of yourself.
jon lajoie
Yeah, of course.
joe rogan
When I was 20, I was fucking dumb.
But I thought I was smart.
And I was right about a lot of things.
I had a good point of view.
But still, you're just fucking spastic.
You're just like that 15-year-old kid driving that truck.
You don't know what the fuck you're doing.
You're slamming into walls and shit.
You don't know how to use the brakes.
jon lajoie
I have once in a while, I have to check in with early 20s, John.
I mean, morally.
Because I was so like, oh, this.
I'm reading.
And I'm still very curious.
But at early 20s, I thought I figured it out.
My moral code.
And I was so like, we're going to do this.
Oh, I don't know.
I was very much...
I was like a vegan for a while.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
jon lajoie
Yeah, but like...
I know, I know.
But that took me a little while to go, okay, no, because I was reading a lot.
Like, I'm trying to figure out what is a right decision, what is a wrong decision.
Like, everything's figuring it out.
joe rogan
Sure.
jon lajoie
And that was part...
Now, like, I'm totally in a different...
Completely different person.
But in my early 20s, everything was an important moral decision.
And my parents are really Pentecostal, really religious, very good people, but very religious people.
So I kind of have that baggage where I'm trying to...
You know doing good is like what makes my parents proud and as opposed to like oh I have all these fans and stuff like if I do something like really nice or something like that that's when my parents are really proud of me right like I kind of have this thing so I was trying to figure like and now you know you know I'm 30 and like I'm living in LA and you know like I have a bit of success and so once in a while I have to go okay early 20s John Am I being an asshole right now?
And am I being a good person?
What do you think?
And a lot of the time he's like, fuck you, asshole.
Don't talk to me.
joe rogan
Well, was early 20s John a radical, though?
jon lajoie
Was he delusional?
unidentified
No, no, no.
jon lajoie
No, I'm still very close to who I was, but I was much more, I guess, rigid about things.
So there's more like...
I don't know.
When I'm shopping, I try to give my money where it's because buying is voting.
But back in the day, it's that early when you're figuring shit out.
You're like, I just read this book, Naomi Klein's, you know, whatever the fuck it was called.
And I'm like, okay, I get it.
And then, you know, you try to like...
I don't know.
Everything's kind of black and white when you realize you get older.
You're like, oh, it's just all gray.
And you try to figure it out.
You try to be a good person as much as you can and try to approach things with love and all that kind of stuff.
joe rogan
It's very tricky.
The eating of animals thing is a really very controversial subject.
And I know a lot of people that have a lot of different opinions of it.
And they're all very, very adamant about how they are.
The people who eat meat just really want to justify it.
And they get super aggressive about it.
And, you know, the people that don't, I mean, I've had some annoying motherfuckers on my message board that want to talk to me about eating animals.
Like, don't, dude.
Just try being, like, on and on and on, just trying to shove it in your throat.
Like, god damn, you annoying fuck.
You socially retarded dunce.
Whatever you're doing is going to make me not want to do it.
Do you not get that?
unidentified
Yeah, of course.
joe rogan
When people, like, say annoying shit like that, I'm like, you're going to make a mistake.
You know, think of karma.
jon lajoie
Shut the fuck up.
joe rogan
Think of kicking you in the dick, stupid.
Get away.
Get away with your nonsense.
jon lajoie
Everyone hates those people.
joe rogan
Those beans are alive, you fuck.
Those beans you're eating, they're screaming as you bite down on them.
You boil them, they're dying in there.
They're rotting in boiling water.
That lettuce screams in agony as you rip it from its fucking mother.
jon lajoie
Fuck you.
joe rogan
That's life too, stupid.
It's like, why is animal life more important than plant life?
Because we're semi-related?
That's fucking stupid because you step on bugs all the time.
We're convenient shitheads, all right?
jon lajoie
And the funniest thing is that eating meat and the animal proteins helped us develop and come to the point in our consciousness of where we are because it helped develop the brain rapidly, which is the funniest thing.
joe rogan
Well, that's actually a controversial theory.
unidentified
Is it?
joe rogan
Yeah, because it doesn't work that way with other predators.
I mean, jaguars don't have big brains.
And by the way, that theory, I believe, was formulated before they realized how many monkeys chimpanzees eat.
They didn't realize how fucking ruthless and violent chimps really were until they started doing some studies.
I forget the guy's name who ran the show.
It was like a BBC show.
But he was the first one to get footage of chimps eating monkeys, and I think that was in the 90s.
So I think these ideas that they had about that, there's two other theories.
One of them is a throwing arm, and that when people develop the ability to throw things, that that sort of kicked off our evolution, because we started killing things that were far away from us.
We started getting better at hunting, and we thrived, and as we thrived, we got a little bit more confidence, and we started thinking about things more.
It's like the more calm you can get, the more control over your environment, the more you have free time to think about shit, because you're not always fighting off jaguars and all these different things.
So we figured out how to do things like throw spears, throw rocks.
That's one theory.
That's another theory.
The other one is psychedelics.
The other one is psychedelic mushrooms.
And that's the most controversial one, but really the most fascinating one.
And it's Terence McKenna's stoned ape theory.
And this theory is that somewhere along the line, and this is the undisputable fact, somewhere along the line, the human brain size doubled over a period of two million years.
And that is, in the entire fossil record, the most confusing thing.
More than anything.
They're like, well, how does this happen?
It's weird for any organ to grow double the size.
But the most spectacular organ as far as creating things on the planet is in no question the brain.
The human brain.
We alter our environment.
We create nuclear bombs.
Beyond a doubt.
It all happens supposedly inside this area, and this area doubled in two years.
Well, it's coincidentally also the same time that the rainforest receded into grasslands, there was a climate change.
And Terence McKenna's theory is that monkeys were forced, or lower primates, were forced to come out of the trees and experiment with new food sources because the rainforests were gone.
And these animals that were in this once lush tropical environment had to adapt to this new environment.
And one of the things they did was there was a lot of cows that were eating the grass and they would flip over cow turds looking for bugs.
And that's the best place for Cubensis mushrooms to grow.
So these Cubensis mushrooms would You grow in this cow shit and these chips and whatever the fuck they were, lower primates, Australopithecus, whatever the fuck it was, they would eat these mushrooms.
And the idea is twofold.
One, that there was a direct increase in their ability to see things.
Because when you eat psilocybin, especially in low doses, it increases your visual acuity.
And the other thing was that it would give them this sort of community-loving atmosphere, protecting atmosphere, and that would also aid in their less conflicts.
The less conflicts that they had would aid in their innovation, just like with the other thing.
Also, they would start having psychedelic experiences, and in large doses, these psychedelic experiences would slowly help them evolve much, much quicker and sort of figure things out that they maybe not have figured out.
And the idea, the really weird part of the idea, is that they think, and this is all McKenna and a few other psychos, they think that what mushrooms are is some sort of an alien intelligence that has come here from an asteroid.
Because the reason for that is there's no...
Like, there's nothing that can survive in a vacuum better than spores.
And we know that a bunch of shit has come here on asteroids from other planets like DNA or, excuse me, like amino acids and the building blocks for life and water.
Water comes on comets and asteroids.
And we know that spores can survive in a vacuum.
And the idea is that somewhere on some other planet, there was some type of a spore, and it came here on an asteroid, landed, and the way it communicates with people is you eat it.
And that this is what caused human beings to evolve out of monkeys.
I mean, it is one of those five-bong hit, stare at space, and think it through for like 10 hours.
At first, it sounds totally ridiculous that mushrooms are silly.
brian redban
But if he's one scientist or whatever that thinks that...
joe rogan
Well, he's not even a scientist, really.
I mean, he was a scholar.
I mean, I don't know what...
He was the ethnobotanist, I think, was his chosen study.
brian redban
So if you ask any of the other thousands of scientists that would know anything close to what he's talking about, wouldn't they think, all right, he's very high?
joe rogan
Yes, sure.
Well, first of all, you have to realize that as a scientist, first of all, getting behind anything that advocates a completely new direction in evolution and one based on psychedelic mushrooms, illegal drugs...
That's a tough fucking sell.
So most scientists would never choose that as a point of study.
brian redban
Is it that or is it just like, no, come on.
joe rogan
It could be that.
It could be that too.
But it's also they discount the idea that mushrooms could be some sort of potential human evolution tool.
They discount that because it sounds ridiculous that an illegal drug could potentially aid in your evolution.
And most of them are ignorant of the experience itself.
I mean, maybe some of them are fucked around with it, had a little bit.
But to have a real full-blown psychedelic experience, I guarantee you, you wouldn't discredit it.
brian redban
So what if these monkeys, instead of taking the cow turds, they took one bite and were like, ew, this is gross.
And they told their friends, don't eat this mushroom.
unidentified
No, it's food, dude.
joe rogan
Come on, man.
They eat bugs.
brian redban
They eat everything.
joe rogan
That's dumb.
That's dumb.
brian redban
But if they don't eat those magic mushrooms, this whole theory makes no sense, right?
joe rogan
Right, but they do.
They've observed them eating mushrooms.
brian redban
Back a long time ago?
joe rogan
No, monkeys now eat them.
You know, a lot of animals target psychedelic substances.
Like reindeer target the Amanita muscaria mushroom.
In Siberia, they're famous for it.
They knock people over to get the mushrooms.
They fucking love them.
jon lajoie
My dog used to knock shit over to get to my weed, man.
brian redban
Really?
unidentified
Really?
brian redban
Weed?
jon lajoie
Wow, that's so crazy.
I'd smoke and I'd leave like little butts and he'd just go.
And I'd come back and be acting all weird and look in the ashtray.
It's just like all empty.
I'm like, motherfucker.
joe rogan
You know, this subject is a very controversial one because a lot of people have a very strong opinion against this idea.
And they're just like, that's ridiculous.
That doesn't make sense.
Think about what the fuck mushrooms do do to you.
If you've done it, if you've ever done it, you know what they do to you.
unidentified
It's fun.
joe rogan
It's fucking crazy.
Beyond description, your whole world changes.
Everything around you becomes interlocking geometric patterns that you can see through to infinity.
Just that experience itself.
What the fuck is happening?
Why is it so powerful and why it's so unanimously positive?
jon lajoie
Why does it do that to your mind?
joe rogan
What's going on?
If it is an agent of evolution, you're not being poisoned.
The LD50 rate for psilocybin mushrooms is like fucking 50 pounds or something.
That's like what you have to eat to kill half the people.
It's ridiculous.
It's like you can't die from it.
We're talking about like hundreds of times more than the effective dose it would take to kill you.
You'd have to be a total idiot to die from mushrooms.
And you'd just probably throw up anyway.
brian redban
I don't think anybody's ever died.
Unless there's some toxic mold that was on it, which is very common in mushrooms.
joe rogan
Or not only that, mushrooms that look like psilocybin mushrooms, but there's some other fucking one that completely jacks your system.
brian redban
But that's the problem with anything.
You could say, yeah, there's no mold on these mushrooms, you're not going to die, and there could be mold on those mushrooms.
joe rogan
Well, guess what, dude?
You're supposed to be buying, or not buying, you're supposed to be eating them right out of the ground.
They're supposed to be legal.
This is all a subject of what we're doing to food.
We don't let anybody grow their own mushrooms.
It's fucking really hard to get, too.
So you don't know who's handling it and how the guy's growing it.
If you had it yourself, it was legal.
You could have it in your goddamn backyard or in your basement.
You could grow a whole shelf of mushrooms.
It's easy as fuck.
jon lajoie
I got a dude who's got mushrooms out here.
Back home, I used to have a reliable source where it didn't kill me and it was awesome.
But it's so weird when it's not controlled.
Not only that, dude.
joe rogan
He's selling something illegal and that's where it gets tricky.
The real problem with illegal drugs is that you've got to talk to people to get them.
That's the deal with some dude and he wants to sell you mushrooms.
Come on, man.
Who is this guy?
You're selling mushrooms?
Where are you at in your life that you're selling mushrooms?
How crazy are you?
Are you wearing a wire?
Get the fuck over here.
That's the problem.
You shouldn't have to deal with some person who's willing to break the law.
What it should be is there's no fucking law.
And by the way, there's a lot of cool people who sell mushrooms.
Don't get me wrong.
I'm just teasing.
But what I'm saying is valid in a lot of cases, man.
I remember the guy, we used to deal with this dude named Jake the Snake.
That's how he used to get weed before I got a medical card.
This motherfucker was so annoying.
He was so annoying that Eddie Bravo had to choke him out like three times.
He couldn't believe that Eddie could choke him out.
He's like, man, if it's a real fight, dude, I'd kick your ass.
And so Eddie's like, come on, you act like an asshole.
And the guy's like, I'm telling you, man, that jujitsu shit ain't gonna work on me.
And Eddie's like, okay, let's go out in the yard and let's fight.
So Eddie takes him down, strangles him, puts him to sleep, wakes him up.
This didn't happen, man.
It didn't fucking happen.
That's bullshit.
You got lucky.
So they do it again.
Let's go again.
Let's go again.
Eddie takes him down, chokes him out, puts him to sleep.
Like, you fucking dummy.
That's a black belt in Brazilian jiu-jitsu.
Like, really?
You think you're just tough enough to fight that shit off?
This is where we used to get our weed from.
It was so annoying.
This guy was so dumb.
He was like a dude whose half his head was made of cardboard.
It was just like there's something in there that's dulling your electrical circuits.
unidentified
It's like...
joe rogan
This wet cardboard is leaking on the circuitry.
This whole fucking thing is shorting out.
He was just dumb.
jon lajoie
This motherfucker sold weed.
joe rogan
Yeah, that was his name.
unidentified
Jake the Snake.
jon lajoie
He's such a knucklehead.
The monkeys and mushrooms.
joe rogan
It's very possible, man.
jon lajoie
I find it way harder for me to go, I believe in something, than for me to not dis...
Whoa, fuck.
I just lost my...
joe rogan
I know what you're saying.
jon lajoie
But, like, I remain...
To remain open, like, dude, it's just the fuck that we're...
We used to be bacteria on this rock, and now we're sitting here talking with headphones about shit on computers.
That's fucking weird.
So you go, oh, maybe that happened.
Yeah, maybe it did happen.
I'm not going to disbelieve.
But for me to go, for sure this thing happened, that's harder to do.
joe rogan
My point exactly.
I love that you just said that.
I always say the exact same thing when it comes to UFOs and stuff.
And I'm like, why do you want to believe?
Do you have personal experience with a UFO? You've been taken aboard.
How do you not know that all these people are crazy?
Because I know a lot of crazy people, man.
People are full of shit.
They lie a lot.
You have to always keep that.
Brian always says it best.
You always got to keep...
What do you say?
You always got to keep all doors open.
What do you say?
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
We were talking about this once before, when it was about UFOs.
Oh, keep everything on the table.
brian redban
Oh, keep everything, yeah.
joe rogan
Keep everything on the table.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
Don't just commit to one thing or the other, man.
brian redban
Yeah, right.
joe rogan
When you're speaking about life, and this is, I mean, think about, this is the nuttiest fucking shit ever.
There's a new study that they found, and that life today resembles life of a billion years ago.
Or cancer today, rather, resembles life of a billion years ago.
brian redban
Yeah, I saw that.
unidentified
That's weird.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm going to try to find the...
It's very scary.
Because what it implies is that, you know, what we came out of, we came out of...
Here it is, right here.
Here's the article.
Life resemble...
Cancer cells resembled life one billion years ago.
And they have all these comparisons and, you know, this is all like some serious scientific study.
About the origins of life and the origins of cancer and the idea, and this is where it could be completely insane, but the idea is if human life becomes so fucked up and chaotic and so unnatural and so polluted by chemicals and destroyed by ideology and nonsense and we just breed ourselves down to mush, this is the mush.
What this is, is this is what started life in the first place.
Life was just a series of fucking cells that grew out of control and became eventually human beings.
And for this shit to be growing inside of us at an ever-expanding rate constantly is like the primordial ooze trying to reclaim its creation.
This is the universal fucking etch-a-sketch and they're shaking it right now.
Yeah.
Wrap your fucking head around that, man.
That's what cancer is, man.
What cancer is is absolute proof positive that this is the wrong path and the universe is slowly swallowing the human race back up.
Wrap your shit around that, homie.
jon lajoie
That's the universe's Noah's Ark.
joe rogan
Fuck, man.
You know, and we don't look at it that way.
I mean, we're obviously just learning this, but we don't look at it as being like something that could like be reversed that quickly.
But look at like, you know, they're talking about like cancer of like 10,000, 100,000 years ago.
The people didn't get cancer.
They didn't get cancer.
There's a lot of scientists that believe that all cancer is within the industrial age and previously before that, any exposure to chemicals and things, carcinogen shit, but that this shit doesn't really exist in nature.
And when you're eating a primate, what would you call it, a paleo diet of all vegetables and all clean animals that you kill, you're not getting introduced to any of the shit that creates cancer.
I don't know if that's right or not.
I mean, I don't know how the fuck they could ever prove it.
They would have to go back in time, you know, whatever, 100,000 years or whatever the fuck it was before people ever figured out how to fuck with chemicals.
What was that, 10,000 years ago?
Not even.
Probably only a couple.
Chemicals?
When was the first cancer?
When was the first cancer ever, you know, recorded?
unidentified
Fuck.
joe rogan
It's a really interesting thing, man.
jon lajoie
Yeah, it really is.
joe rogan
Let's just get crazy and let's give it a few thousand years.
Let's say the first cancer started like 2,000 years ago.
If that is the case, think about what a short period of time that is.
2,000 years to today and you compare how much more people have cancer now and how many more people are around now than before.
And constantly we're working on a cure for it.
We're going to figure it out.
We're going to figure it out.
It's like, whoa, what is this?
jon lajoie
What the fuck is cancer?
joe rogan
It's life growing out of control.
This is the crazy thing about life growing out of control in cancer.
The way they kill it is they fucking poison the shit out of you.
They poison the shit out of you and they hope that this thing dies before the host does.
That's what chemotherapy is.
That's terrifying, man.
That's a terrifying notion.
It's like you have a parasite inside you, and we're going to slowly bring you to death's door, and hopefully it'll kill the parasite.
And then you get to, like, start eating oatmeal again and walking without a limp, and then as soon as that happens again, oh, your friend is back for another fucking round.
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
He grabs ahold of you, tries to choke you and drag you to the ground.
jon lajoie
My brother had Hodgkin's when he was like 14 years old.
joe rogan
Oh my God.
jon lajoie
He had lumps and stuff.
He went to see a doctor.
First doctor he went to see, like, yeah, you're working out.
It's normal.
Something in your glands or whatever.
Oh, okay.
Go to the second doctor.
No, no, you have cancer.
brian redban
Wow.
jon lajoie
Yeah, no, he did the chemotherapy and everything.
He's fine.
brian redban
What were the lumps like?
jon lajoie
Dude, he had this huge lump right here.
brian redban
Oh, like a Joey Diaz lump.
joe rogan
Well, that's what Dexter had.
What's his name?
Philip Michael Hall?
brian redban
Michael C. Hall.
joe rogan
Michael C. Hall, is that his name?
Who's Philip Michael Hall?
brian redban
The guy from the 80s movies.
joe rogan
The little blonde kid.
So yeah, it's a really common thing, right?
jon lajoie
Yeah.
joe rogan
What do they think it's caused from?
Do they have any idea?
Is it genetic?
jon lajoie
No idea, man.
I mean, it's the same time we grew up.
We're just eating.
I have a big family.
They're brothers and sisters.
So we'd eat hot dogs and hamburger helper.
You never know where it could come from.
joe rogan
It could come from anywhere.
jon lajoie
It could be genetic and all that stuff.
My aunt died of the same thing when she was 24. Like, way back when she was young.
So it's somewhat in the genetics.
But at the same time, you never know.
Are you paranoid?
brian redban
Do you go to the doctor like twice a year?
jon lajoie
No, I don't go to the doctor probably for that reason.
I probably should do it.
joe rogan
Wow, that's terrifying.
jon lajoie
Yeah.
No, it is.
joe rogan
Do you eat really healthy?
jon lajoie
Yeah, I eat well.
joe rogan
I know a dude who eats really bad and he's got cancer right now.
unidentified
Oh, fuck.
joe rogan
But he's got really pale skin and he's always out in the sun.
Apparently he's got some skin cancer.
jon lajoie
Skin cancer, yeah.
joe rogan
And he eats terrible.
It's all mashed potatoes and fucking meatloaf and shit.
You know, no vitamins.
So homeboy's got to start eating like a serious, serious heavy green diet.
Very leafy, thick green vegetables.
Whenever I do that, man, whenever I get really heavily into like eating salads, like big salads every day, I really feel way better.
It's really amazing.
It's like most of our food is so fucking...
Dead.
You can get something.
There's something out of eating plants, out of eating live things.
You really do get something from it.
jon lajoie
But the scary thing is you've got to get fresh and organic.
In Montreal, I just went back there last week.
It's a snowstorm.
Nothing fresh is growing there.
So everything's imported from all around the world.
If you're not getting organic and fresh, It's fresh, like the shit's been in a freezer, sitting in chemicals.
You gotta wash your lettuce.
My brother worked at a fruit and vegetable place.
He said they used to take the celery out.
You have to wear gloves when they'd unload it from the boxes and put it in the front because he'd get burns on his hands from the chemicals that were on the celery.
Think about that shit.
You're putting that in your body, man.
And how long do you have to wash the celery for that shit to get off?
joe rogan
How long would it take before he started getting burns?
jon lajoie
Oh, he said you learn right away.
You handle it a bit and it's just the chemicals, especially on celery for some reason.
joe rogan
Fuck, I love celery, man.
I make celery juice all the time.
jon lajoie
Well, if you get, once again, organic and fresh.
I do, but still.
joe rogan
I've heard a lot of organic is bullshit, too.
They label it as organic and it's not really organic.
What does organic stand for?
I mean, what is the actual definition of organic?
Does it mean no chemicals, no pesticides, no genetically modified?
brian redban
I think that's what it's supposed to mean.
jon lajoie
It's supposed to mean that.
But as we know, if you watch those documentaries like Food and Inc., the genetically modified, this shit flies all over the place.
joe rogan
That's nuts.
Well, that's what's really crazy about genetically modified crops is how they affect other farmers have gotten sued because the shit flew through the air and landed on their fields and they found these crops and they'll do a test on them and then these guys have to go to court and they want money from them.
It's the most evil shit ever.
Monsanto is one of the most evil corporations ever.
By the way, there was some fucking thing online about them buying Blackwater.
I don't know if they did.
I don't know if they did, but people were like, this is the end of the world.
This is the most evil organizations ever, and one's going to buy the other, and they're going to become one massive, super evil organization.
Could you imagine?
They want to fuck over the whole world.
They want to take over the food industry.
They want to make sure that people have to pay them for their crops.
You don't own your crops.
You don't own the seeds.
You can't replant the seeds.
And we got an army.
We got an army.
jon lajoie
A private army that will do anything we tell them to do.
joe rogan
Yeah, I need to find out if that actually is still happening.
Or if it was bullshit or if they just hired him for something.
jon lajoie
Yeah, there's this great French documentary, Life According to Monsanto, which is on Google.
joe rogan
Yeah, I watched it.
It's crazy.
jon lajoie
What's the seed called?
The one that doesn't, you know, you have to keep buying it.
Yeah.
It's not the shotgun.
It's something like...
It's a seed that doesn't...
It's not a crop that will keep coming back.
You have to plant it every season.
unidentified
Fuck.
joe rogan
I don't remember it.
jon lajoie
The genetically modified seed that you have to just...
The farmers are at Monsanto's mercy because they can't just keep some of the crops and these things die every year.
unidentified
Right, right.
jon lajoie
So you have to keep buying from your dealer.
joe rogan
They've engineered them that way, right?
jon lajoie
Yeah, they engineered the...
unidentified
What's it called?
jon lajoie
It's crazy.
Anyway, but yeah, no, they're like, you've looked at it.
joe rogan
Well, okay, here's the answer.
They're hiding it because one article said Monsanto buys Blackwater.
And then another article says Blackwater has been sold via a shell company and a pair of private equity firms.
So does this mean Monsanto has actually bought into Blackwater?
And they're saying there's no way to know.
How creepy and scary are these motherfuckers?
jon lajoie
When one of the biggest corporations that controls the food on this planet has its own private army.
joe rogan
Do you know how crazy that is?
How come this isn't being discussed?
Everybody wants to talk about how many black guys Kim Kardashian's fucked.
jon lajoie
Everyone wants to talk about, oh, gay people shouldn't get married.
joe rogan
Yeah, this is scary.
jon lajoie
People are taking over the world and you're worried about fucking guys getting married.
joe rogan
Well, the crazy thing is people think this is ridiculous.
This is like hippie nonsense, all this fucking, you know, what are you doing?
No, no, no.
This is big business is what this is.
It's the biggest business in the world.
The number one business in the world besides drugs is food.
And the only reason why drugs is more than food is because drugs is illegal.
You know?
Food's worth way more than drugs.
Drugs should be cheaper, but they're illegal.
You know?
I mean, fuck, man.
But it's probably not even close anyway.
More people spend way more money on food than drugs anyway, even though drugs are illegal.
unidentified
Oh, of course.
jon lajoie
Even if you're fucking something like a maniac.
joe rogan
Yeah, you'd have to be off the charts.
Everybody would have to be off the charts.
But anyway, so how the fuck, man?
How could this happen?
unidentified
Man, dude, I... That's so scary.
jon lajoie
It's very scary.
I mean, I just read, like, on another similar kind of thing, I just read about they're going to start selling genetically modified salmon that grows twice as big in half the time.
And they're like, oh, we're not too worried about these salmon and going into the wild.
Of course you're going to go in the wild.
You'd have no...
And they're like, oh, the tests have proven that it's fine.
Like, there's no...
joe rogan
Really?
unidentified
How long?
jon lajoie
Have you tested this on a generation of people?
No, you haven't.
joe rogan
No one has a fucking clue.
jon lajoie
No fucking idea.
They're like, oh, we tried for three months.
No one got sick.
Let's put a new species of animal that would be out on the market for people to eat.
joe rogan
There's a fish that, I mean, just whenever an animal comes from another ecosystem and invades as an alien, they can ruin everything, man.
I think it's called a snakehead.
I think that's the name of the fish.
But it's a fish that, I believe it's from Africa.
I'm just talking out of my ass right now.
I'll find out what it is.
But snakehead invasion is what I'm going to look up.
Because these fish, they started showing up in lakes and ponds and just eating everything, dude.
Eating everything.
Yeah, snakehead.
That's exactly what it is.
unidentified
Jeez.
joe rogan
Yeah, they've turned up in lakes and rivers all over the country.
And it's a real big problem because they're like invincible.
jon lajoie
Do they know where they came from?
joe rogan
They just breed like a motherfucker.
I'm looking for it on here.
It doesn't say what country it comes from.
brian redban
Cobra Island.
joe rogan
Wikipedia.
Let's see.
It's a scary thing, though, man.
They just come in, and imagine if you're a guy who likes going fishing, and they're scary as fuck looking, man.
They look like some fucking crazy dinosaur thing, man.
Okay, they are from Africa, so I wasn't talking on my ass.
So this is the fish.
It looks like...
Look at this shit.
It looks like a dinosaur.
unidentified
Holy shit.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Looks like a dinosaur.
I mean, look at that fucking thing.
That's a creepy-looking fucking fish.
And dudes just have them for pets.
I had piranhas for pets, and it was against the law.
Because of that very reason, yeah.
But I know a dude who knows a dude, you know what I'm saying?
We'll get you some piranhas, yo.
I had to, like, get illegal piranhas.
jon lajoie
That's pretty badass having piranhas.
joe rogan
It was, but it wasn't.
jon lajoie
Did you have to, like, throw, like, your cat in there to feed them?
Like, what do you do?
joe rogan
No, I love my cat, man.
Come on.
unidentified
Well, how do you feed them?
joe rogan
No, I feed them goldfish.
Goldfish.
Yeah, goldfish is what they love.
Yeah, it's a trip watching them feed, too, man.
You can feed them hot dogs and shit like that, too, if you're really not into watching them kill something.
But there's something so primal about watching those fucking things just attack a school of goldfish.
And the goldfish, it was really a sick thing that I used to do.
I used to get a bag of goldfish, and then I would sit, I'd pull my bar stool in front of this giant tank.
jon lajoie
How many of the piranhas?
joe rogan
Piranhas?
At one point, I had 30. Jesus.
Yeah, it was a big tank.
It was huge.
The tank was...
I don't know, hundreds of gallons.
I forget how many hundreds, but it was really big.
Anyway, it was maybe over 1,000.
It might have been over 1,000 gallons, I think.
unidentified
Whoa.
joe rogan
I don't even remember anymore.
It's been so many years.
Anyways, big tank.
I had too many when I had, like, 30. It was a good number when I had, like, five.
Five is a good number.
unidentified
Because they get crazy and they start killing each other.
joe rogan
If you have too many of them.
Not even if you have too many of them.
Just one of them shows up with a limp.
Mmm, that's a wrap.
unidentified
Mmm.
joe rogan
That's wrap, Daisy.
Even if they're not hungry, they just attack them.
They just attack them and fuck them up.
So I would dump the goldfish in there, and they would look at the goldfish for a second, and they would slowly move closer, slowly move closer, and then one of them would go for it.
And when one of them would go for it, they would just dart, snap, I would snap and cut a goldfish in half, and then the blood would be in the water, and then it was on like Donkey Kong.
And then I would sit there and watch them go back and forth and chasing them around these little driftwood things and shit, and the goldfish don't know what the fuck is going on.
And they're just getting cut down like a goddamn horror movie.
And they're primal, man.
They are fucking savage.
They're stealing dead goldfish from each other.
Like one's got a half a goldfish and the other one comes up and bites it off of his face.
So after like a good like killing when they would go nuts, they would be missing lips and shit.
Their lips would be because they would be stealing from each other and they cut their own lips off.
So they were always like this really...
They're creepy looking anyway, but they were even more creepy when their white teeth were exposed and they'd be swimming around this fucking tank.
And a lot of people cut their lips off just so they can see the white teeth.
You pull them out and you remove their lips and then you put them back in the water.
And they swim around and they swim around like monsters.
They look even scarier that way.
brian redban
Modified piranhas.
joe rogan
Dude, there's a fucking crazy piranha.
It's like a cousin to a piranha.
And they just, fuck, what is the name of it?
This big tigerfish.
And they just caught one in the Congo.
This guy went and they had this TV show about it.
He caught this thing in the Congo.
It's the nuttiest thing you've ever seen in your life.
It's got teeth that are as long as great white shark teeth.
Enormous teeth.
And it looks like a monster.
It does not look like a real fish.
Just this ridiculous mouth of giant fucking teeth.
And just these Dead eyes and this big fucking plate-covered body of death just swimming through incredibly fast waters and fucking things up and it's huge.
It's a hundred pounds, 150 pounds.
They kill people.
They've bitten people's legs and shit, taken chunks out of them.
You fall in, man.
They bite you.
If you're still in there, they're gonna keep biting.
That's it.
It's a wrap.
If there's a bunch of them there, they really are like a giant piranha.
jon lajoie
Thank God we're separated from these guys.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah, man.
jon lajoie
Fuck yeah.
If those things had legs, we'd all be fucked.
joe rogan
Dude, well, we're fucked if fucking mountain lions increase in population.
jon lajoie
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, in California, especially Southern California, it's every couple of years some asshole on a bike gets jacked by a cougar.
unidentified
I know.
jon lajoie
I know.
I love fucking hiking, but I get so – I love smoking and going hiking.
And I get so – I walk around.
My brother came to visit me.
I was walking around with rocks because I saw a Discovery Channel thing.
But people getting attacked by mountain lions.
joe rogan
Bring mace if you want to bring something.
I had bear mace that I used to bring.
When I would live in Colorado, when I lived in Colorado, I used to carry a gun.
I carried two guns once.
A gun always and mace.
I bring mace.
Because bears, you don't really want to shoot bears, man.
Because first of all, the 9mm, you shoot a bear, guess what?
You're not going to kill them.
You're just going to make them really, really fucking mad.
And Colorado doesn't have too many grizzlies.
A lot of it was black bears.
But they could.
I mean, shit.
Yeah.
I mean, they're in Montana.
They're in a lot of places.
You don't know.
I mean, they don't have a real accurate number of how many grizzlies are out there.
And they've found a few in Colorado.
It was because there was a zoo that we went to that they had two grizzlies that were in the zoo.
And the reason why they had them in there was because they had gotten too used to people.
They started jacking people's garbage.
And once they start jacking your garbage, that's it.
They know that that's a food source and they never quit.
They just never move on to like a new neighborhood.
They just will camp out and just jack your garbage every night.
So it becomes an issue.
And they have to kidnap them.
Fuck it, man.
When you see them out there, I mean, I never saw a bear in the wild, but I did see a mountain lion.
But seeing a bear in the zoo and just thinking about this thing is allowed to roam around in the same area as you.
Like, this is a monster!
This is a giant, fucking enormous monster.
And sometimes they get really hungry.
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
And they'll eat your kids.
They'll fuck you up, man.
unidentified
Yeah, dude.
joe rogan
Did you see Grizzly Man?
jon lajoie
No, no, no.
unidentified
Dude.
brian redban
Yeah, it's the best comedy ever.
jon lajoie
Yeah?
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
jon lajoie
What's Grizzly Man?
joe rogan
Grizzly Man is a documentary about this guy named Timothy Treadwell.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And Timothy Treadwell was this guy who was, like, in love with grizzlies.
It was one of the weirdest things ever, man.
Really strange.
And the guy was...
Uber gay.
Just really gay and completely in denial.
And the way he would, like, face his gayness was to live in the woods with these fucking bears.
It was the strangest thing ever.
This guy, there was so many deep psychological issues going on with this guy.
jon lajoie
He's in like a bear closet.
joe rogan
Yeah, like they interview his friends and they're like, well, he used to talk in an accent, but then he stopped.
He's one of those guys.
I mean, he's completely nuts.
And he'd be out there...
I'm the only one who's out here saving these bears.
Meanwhile, the park ranger is like, you don't have to save them.
They're bears.
No one's here.
You're not doing anything.
You're crazy.
You're living with these bears.
You're actually endangering the bears because you're getting the bears used to being in contact with humans.
And that's what gets bears in trouble.
They get used to people being around because he's around all the time.
And they go, oh, well, let me go just jack this dude's picnic basket.
And then you got to shoot him.
So what he's actually doing is fucking these bears over.
So this guy is just out there every year.
unidentified
I'm here saving these bears.
These bears without me, they'd be nowhere.
joe rogan
And he's like, he calls them, he has a bunch of names for them.
unidentified
Hello, Mr. Cupcake.
joe rogan
You know, and the bear takes a shit and he runs over to the bear shit.
unidentified
He goes, it's warm.
joe rogan
Oh, it just came out of her butt.
unidentified
It just came out of her butt.
This is warm.
joe rogan
This guy is touching it, and he's excited that he's in contact with this shit that just came out of her ass.
And I'm not kidding.
And he thinks it's a magical shit.
He's amazed by it.
unidentified
This is amazing.
It's warm.
joe rogan
He actually said this.
He's feeling her shit, saying that it's warm.
Could you imagine if he was doing that to a woman?
If there was a woman, a woman runs into her bathroom and fucking jacks her shit, and he's holding on to it.
It's warm.
unidentified
It just came out of her butt.
jon lajoie
It's warm.
joe rogan
It's just as bizarre.
Just as bizarre to be doing that with a fucking bear, you weirdo.
brian redban
Great movie.
unidentified
And at the end, he dies.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm sure it is.
It's Werner Herzog film.
It's fucking fascinating because it seems like Werner Herzog is not in on the joke, which makes it even more interesting.
It's like, this guy's a brilliant documentarian.
Does he know how How hilarious this is?
Because it doesn't appear that he does.
Because it doesn't seem like he's playing it off that way at all.
And even when he talks to the woman at the end, I would love to sit down with him off the record and ask him a question.
I would love to go, did you know that was funny when you were doing it?
Because it's goddamn brilliant, dude.
It's hilarious.
It's so funny.
jon lajoie
Sounds like a great Christopher Guest movie.
joe rogan
They deadpan everybody, too.
They bring in the sheriff from up in Alaska.
Well, I knew he was going to get in trouble up there.
They have these interviews with these people, and they're talking about how he had to recognize the body, and how they had to shoot the bear, because the bear was still there, like, guarding over the bodies.
Yeah, the guy had flown over.
Oh, yeah, you have to kill them.
Once they start killing people, you have to kill them.
unidentified
Ah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
But it was an old, what it was was, the guy, they called it suicide by bear.
And what happened was the guy had just decided to stay way past you're supposed to.
And when you get to a certain point in time, the bears that are conscious or that are up, that aren't hibernating, are all the ones who are dying.
They're all really old.
And the really old bears get desperate and they can't get any food.
And they started killing their own babies.
And when you see bears kill their own babies, you're supposed to get the fuck out of there.
Because if they're killing their babies, they're desperate as fuck.
You know, they're eating anything.
They eat their own goddamn babies.
And he basically went back in like October and November when the bears are camping in.
And a bear killed him.
And it took a long time.
And there's a video, but there's no image because the lens cap was on.
But the camera was running.
And they have like seven minutes of him getting torn apart by bears.
By this one bear.
Because the thing about bears is, they just start eating you.
See, a real carnivore, or rather a real predator like a cat, cats kill you first because they want to keep killing things, and they don't want to have to worry about fighting you.
Hyenas, though, hyenas just start eating.
And that's the same with bears.
Bears, they get you down, they just start eating.
Monkeys, chimps, when chimps kill monkeys, they just eat them.
They don't kill them first.
There's videos of chimps screaming, monkeys rather, screaming while a chimp has a hold of its little body and is biting its legs off.
Pulling it apart.
And this monkey's screaming.
And it looks like a little person.
It looks like a weird little person in an outfit.
And it's getting ripped apart by this chimp who's just...
Chewing on it.
It's fucking dark, dude.
And that's what bears do.
And that's what Bear did to Timothy Treadwell.
Just ate him.
For seven minutes until he died.
brian redban
Somewhere that footage exists, too.
joe rogan
No video, man.
Only audio.
There was no video footage.
Yeah, but Werner Herzog listened to it.
That fuck, and he didn't play it for us.
And he said, this is too much for people to handle.
You need to burn this.
Burn this.
Like, bitch!
Why don't you let some other people decide?
Maybe you're just being a little overreactive.
jon lajoie
Well, when did they shoot that?
How long ago?
unidentified
Phew.
joe rogan
It's a few years ago.
brian redban
It's like 2000. Five years ago, maybe.
joe rogan
Maybe even more than that.
jon lajoie
It might have been like 2004. Everyone watches videos.
Every time someone gets their head chopped off, my brother's like, yo, check out the video.
I'm like, what are you fucking nuts?
joe rogan
Well, there's nothing graphic about it.
2005. There's nothing graphic about it.
I mean, they don't really show you.
But when they say the way they found out that the guy had died was that they flew in with some supplies for him.
And as the guy was flying in a plane, he saw a bear that was out, which he thought was unusual, and he saw the bodies.
Like he flew over and saw like this – the white rib cage poking up of a guy that had just been eaten.
He ate two people.
He ate him and he ate his girlfriend too.
They were both fucked up there.
So they landed and they had to land with rangers and rifles and shit and they had to kill the bear.
And the bear, they killed the bear and they left the bear.
This is the really crazy thing.
And then they came back a couple of months later, fucking nothing left.
Nothing of the body.
It had all been absorbed.
Animals had eaten it.
Other bears had eaten it.
The bones were all crushed up.
It was incredible.
They found a couple of rib bones.
It's really amazing.
You're talking about this giant grizzly bear.
I mean, they had photos of the bear and video footage of the bear from previous stuff that he had gotten before the bear killed him.
Back when there was salmon running, like they got the bear eating fish and shit.
Dude, it's a giant animal.
Within a few months, it's gone.
brian redban
Get really big before you watch it, though.
joe rogan
Oh, dude, it's one of the greatest documentaries ever.
Most unintentional comedy, I think, ever in a documentary.
brian redban
It's like Richard Simmons out in the woods.
joe rogan
It's like a Coen Brothers movie.
It really is like the Coen Brothers did it as a goof.
I mean, I was amazed.
jon lajoie
But it's kind of perfect that the bear ate him, in terms of the documentary.
unidentified
Sure.
jon lajoie
Herzog was probably there going, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, I believe he started the documentary after the guy died.
jon lajoie
Oh, okay.
Well, how did they...
joe rogan
He had video footage that he had shot himself for years and years by himself, and he's so crazy.
He would set up the camera, and he would look into the camera.
unidentified
I'm out here alone in this forest protecting these bears because no one else gives a shit.
No one gives a shit.
So fuck you, park ranger.
Fuck you, United States government.
Fuck you, Alaska.
joe rogan
Like, he's just going off, like screaming.
unidentified
Okay, let's try this again.
Take three.
joe rogan
And he'll do it, like, over and over and over again, and he obsessively filmed himself.
So they have, not only do they have this incredible wealth of footage from here, but I watch the Grizzly Man Diaries, okay?
Because he has so much footage, they turned it into a fucking reality show seven years after this dude's dead, okay?
And I watch it all the time.
There's a fucking reality show.
brian redban
I didn't know that.
joe rogan
Dude, I watch it all the time!
brian redban
You wanna watch it?
So it's just like all the bonus cuts?
joe rogan
After we're done here, bro, let's get something to eat, we'll hit the fucking vaporizer, and we'll fucking have a good time.
It's genius, man.
He's just gold.
He's gold all day.
I wish the motherfucker was still alive.
I'd have him on the podcast in a hot...
brian redban
Wasn't there a part in it where he goes, everyone, did you already say this?
Everyone thinks I'm gay.
He talks about it.
joe rogan
Well, he walked with a camera.
He's like, well, you know, I guess, no, this is what he said.
He goes, it'd be so much easier if I was gay.
You know, I just can't find a girl.
I can't find the right girl.
I can't find the right girl.
Maybe it's because you're living in the woods with monsters, you fuck.
Chicks want to be putting a nice roof over their head.
They want to be taken care of.
They want a man who loves them and supports them.
Let's go live in a house made of fabric amongst monsters.
You want me to sleep outside on the ground with no more than fabric above me while monsters roam around.
They're my friends.
unidentified
Look, it's Mr. Cupcake.
Hey, Mr. Cupcake.
When you eat me in a couple of months, can you think you could start from the head first so I die quicker?
brian redban
Ass first.
joe rogan
Seven minutes this guy dies.
unidentified
Think about how fucking long...
joe rogan
Think about holding your breath for seven minutes, right?
That's a long-ass time.
Now think...
You can't do it.
Now think about something...
unidentified
Eating!
Eating you for seven minutes before you die.
Eating you.
joe rogan
Just pulling chunks out.
unidentified
You're screaming.
And it's just eating your feet.
joe rogan
And you're just squirting blood like a broken faucet.
brian redban
When do you just pass out?
unidentified
I don't know, man.
joe rogan
I don't know.
jon lajoie
You're like, okay, I'm dying.
And you accept it.
unidentified
And then you wake up when it bites your dick off.
jon lajoie
Six more minutes.
You're like, okay, I'm dying.
Okay, I'm gonna die.
Still conscious.
joe rogan
He just starts eating your asshole.
Just big chunks.
He's got his giant paw and he puts it on your cheek.
And he's just ripping out your asshole.
Just pulling out.
Literally eating your asshole while you're still alive.
Dude, man.
Fuck a bear, man.
Fuck a bear.
People in my neighborhood, too, when I lived in the Colorado mountains, are like, well, if you see a bear, you report it.
What the fuck are you talking about?
I'm going to shoot that thing.
I'm going to shoot the fuck out of that thing.
If I had a rifle?
Not with a pistol, though.
With a pistol, you've got to use the mace, man.
Fucking scary animals, goddammit.
We need them.
We need them.
We need them in our woods.
Fuck you, we do.
Fucking kill them all.
Put them in zoos.
jon lajoie
That's why I don't do the whole...
I don't know if you guys surf, but I have a bunch of friends that surf and they want me to go, I'm like...
You have any idea of the size of the monsters that are in there?
joe rogan
Guy just died recently in Santa Barbara, man.
jon lajoie
Yeah, man.
joe rogan
Bit in half in front of his friends.
jon lajoie
Like, if sharks were walking on land, you'd go, I'm not going where those monsters are hanging out.
unidentified
Right.
jon lajoie
You're going really on this little board.
You're going where there are, like...
Things that eat people that are twice or three or four times the size of you.
You know what?
If I'm going to surf, I'm going to do it on the Xbox.
joe rogan
This is what I tell people.
If there were three werewolves in the country, fact proven three werewolves, would you ever be in the woods at night on a full moon?
jon lajoie
Ever!
unidentified
Why the fuck would you take that chance?
joe rogan
You wouldn't, okay?
Well, there's a million sharks, you fuck, and they're not just sharks when it's a full moon.
They're sharks every day, and they can't even stop, because if they stop, they drown.
So they have to keep swimming, and they have to keep eating, and they eat shoes and license plates and tires, and they'll eat you.
They'll eat you, bro, and they'll eat you quick.
They take giant bites out of you, and you're fucked.
I'm sure surfing is awesome.
But it ain't that awesome.
brian redban
I wear shoes in the ocean.
I won't even fucking know that.
I'd be like the biggest pussy thing ever.
joe rogan
Give me some knuckles on that shit, sorry.
Give me some knuckles on that smart thinking right there.
Yeah, I mean, people will always like...
There's another subject where people go, Joe needs to lighten up.
He's so scared of things.
So paranoid of things.
Like...
Obviously a lot of this is for entertainment, folks.
I'm not shaking every time I walk by the ocean.
But the point being, logically and realistically, we're all going to die eventually.
Absolutely.
But that's not the fun way to go.
The fun way to go is you live a long life, you fucking party your ass off, you make a lot of good friends, and people miss you when you're gone, you're surrounded by your friends and loved ones as you pass through the next stage of existence.
Not...
unidentified
Ooh, look how pretty the water is.
Where's my legs?
And some fucking thing is just taking chunks out of you.
I mean, fucking huge, man.
joe rogan
I mean, there are sharks that are 30 feet long out there.
unidentified
What are you talking about?
30 feet long!
joe rogan
30 feet long with giant mouths that have so many teeth.
If one breaks off, another one pops into its place.
unidentified
There's no animal like it in the world.
joe rogan
Every other animal, when they lose a tooth, they're fucked.
Okay?
If a lion loses his tooth, man, that's just a new young lion's gonna take over, motherfucker.
You can't be gum and no gazelles.
unidentified
How you protecting me with them fucking shitty teeth?
joe rogan
That lion dies up.
Not a shark.
They can lose a hundred teeth.
Whatever.
unidentified
Clink, clink.
Oh, I got more.
Clink, clink.
joe rogan
Just designed to fuck you up, man.
jon lajoie
And you're drowning at the same time.
How fucking horrible is drowning?
You're drowning while something is eating your entire body.
joe rogan
Like those piranha, fucked up those goldfish, man.
I'm just scared of karma, man.
I've fucked a lot of goldfish over.
A lot of goldfish to a watery grave.
If there's any karma out there, I mean, the universe, does it really give a fuck about the difference between the life of a goldfish or the life of a person?
I mean, I took some pleasure in the death of goldfish, and I set it up.
I introduced some alien fish that aren't even supposed to be in this environment.
I had a fake artificial environment in my own home, and I would use it for a little goldfish coliseum.
jon lajoie
You're playing God, man.
joe rogan
I'm playing God, man.
I ain't going in that water.
I know what I did wrong.
jon lajoie
I'm not Someone's going to make a genetically modified goldfish that's going to get huge and it's going to come for you, man.
It's going to grow legs.
It's going to come knock on your door.
joe rogan
Did you hear about the shit that's going on in Russia, man?
jon lajoie
What's going on in Russia?
joe rogan
Dude, the wolves...
What is this going on on the screen there, Brian?
Some weird shit right there.
brian redban
It's always been like that.
joe rogan
What is it?
brian redban
It's just design.
joe rogan
Oh, you put it there?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, you fucking weirdo.
Trying to be artistic.
Anyway, there's a pack of wolves in this area of Russia.
There's unprecedentedly big.
400 wolves.
And they're acting together and they're killing livestock like horses.
They're acting together as a group.
It's really scary.
And they have groups of hunters that are going after them.
Let me pull it up real quick.
unidentified
Holy shit.
joe rogan
It's really scary.
jon lajoie
Can you imagine you're in the woods taking a little stroll, 400 wolves in front of you?
joe rogan
Dude, it's really scary.
There's a video of wolves in Russia.
Have you ever seen the video on YouTube?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Yo, you've got to check out this video.
It's fucking badass.
Have you ever seen it, Brian?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Some people think it's fake.
I do not believe it's fake.
It's a video of these guys that are pulling over people in Russia.
They're pulling people over for traffic violations, and they're right by the woods.
And as they're in there, one guy is pulling a guy over.
unidentified
Have you ever seen it Brian?
joe rogan
A guy yells, who's on the other side of the street.
And as he yells, the guy who's the cop panics.
He yells something in Russian.
Panics and gets into the car of the people he pulled over.
Jumps in it, quick.
And as he jumps in it, this pack of wolves runs down the street.
It's a motherfucker, dude.
And as they're running, they go...
brian redban
Why do people think it's fake?
joe rogan
A lot of people don't think it's real.
People call fake...
I mean, look at you.
You call fake on everything.
Pack of wolves police officer.
Pull that up on YouTube.
But anyway, so this super pack of wolves is terrorizing this fucking town.
They've killed 30 horses in four days.
Yeah.
What?
They've never seen anything like it before, and they've had to put bounties on wolves' heads.
So they're poking 210, I don't know what it is, because it's pounds, I believe it is.
It might be euros, 210 euros.
It's probably euros, right?
Do they go under the euro?
brian redban
That was a vodka, by the way.
It was a vodka.
joe rogan
Was it fake?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
It was fake.
Okay.
Well, this is fake.
unidentified
How did you find those so quickly?
joe rogan
How did they make it a vodka ad?
brian redban
I searched it and it says, Wolf Attack Video is a viral ad for a vodka brand.
joe rogan
But it doesn't even have the vodka in it.
jon lajoie
How does that advertise vodka?
joe rogan
Pull the video.
It's pretty dope.
jon lajoie
I think once people find out.
joe rogan
It does seem a little bit too well filmed.
jon lajoie
Yeah.
joe rogan
It did too good of a job.
So anyway, think about this shit, man.
The temperatures up there are minus 49 degrees Celsius, and it killed off all the normal prey of these wolves.
So these wolves thrive in cold weather, but there's a lot of animals.
What are you doing, man?
Just cue that shit up so we don't have to watch this guy's gay ad.
Presents.
I present.
Here it goes.
So, yeah, see, that looks like too well-framed, you know?
jon lajoie
Yeah, that's a good traffic camera.
brian redban
Both cars are in frame.
joe rogan
But it's pretty dope, man.
I like when it happens.
I wish it was real.
unidentified
Yeah.
I wish it was a werewolf.
joe rogan
Yeah.
So, I mean, think about that temperature right there, 49 degrees Celsius.
That's fucking crazy.
jon lajoie
That's Edmonton.
joe rogan
Minus 49 degrees, yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And so these wolves have nothing to eat, so they all figured out how to get together.
And this population, this town, is only 1,300 people.
So wrap your head around that.
1,300 people, 400 wolves.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
So, almost for every three people, there's a wolf.
jon lajoie
Oh, man.
Get the fuck out of that town, dude.
unidentified
Every three people, there's a wolf?
jon lajoie
Jesus!
The chances of you dying by wolf attack are like, the chances of you dying of old age are nothing.
joe rogan
It's terrifying, and it's just started to happen again.
There's been two instances in the last fucking hundred years or so, and they've both been within the last ten years of people getting killed by wolves.
It's on record.
We used to think that like wolves are cool, man.
They're like dogs, man.
They're like rebels.
No, they're fucking killers.
They'll kill you too.
You know, if they catch you alone, we used to have like all the, remember the old Walt Disney movies?
There was like the wolves would like try to get Beauty and the Beast.
The wolf would fucking sneak up on him.
Yeah, he would have to fucking fight off the wolves that wanted to kill Beauty, right?
Remember that shit?
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
They attacked him.
brian redban
That's real.
jon lajoie
Yeah.
joe rogan
We just have fucked them over so bad in this country that we started to have respect for them again.
Like, aw, wolves aren't so bad.
They're cool, man.
We need them.
They're beautiful.
You know, they represent freedom.
Wolves represent freedom.
brian redban
I never think about wolves, but this guy thinks about wolves every day.
joe rogan
Yeah, I think about all animals.
Because I'm closer to an animal than you are.
For sure.
There's 1% DNA differential, whatever the fuck it is, between humans and chimpanzees.
I'm closer to a chimp.
brian redban
I'm more cat.
joe rogan
Goddammit.
I'm too close.
I want to go into the woods.
I'm gravitating.
I gravitate towards wild.
If there was a rainforest, I'd fucking live in it.
If we had a rainforest right here, I'd figure out, how do you kill the bugs?
Electricity?
Can you zap them?
I need to have an area around, but we live in a fucking rainforest.
That would be the shit.
jon lajoie
Yeah, by shit you mean insanely dangerous and boring.
Anywhere where spiders can kill you.
If spiders can kill you, I'm not going there.
joe rogan
How about spiders that destroy your hormones, man?
There's a fucking Brazilian spider that we talked about.
What the fuck was that thing called?
brian redban
I'm just I don't remember.
I'm just scared of regular spiders in my bed because you read that some of these spiders are poisonous here in California and they hide in your shoes in your bed.
jon lajoie
Are there black widows here that have them?
brian redban
Yeah, they're black and brown.
Yeah, I saw a brown outside my house the other day.
joe rogan
Recluses are the scary ones.
jon lajoie
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because recluses, they do something to your skin that causes your skin to die.
So it causes your tissue to dissolve.
It's really fucked up, man.
Necrosis, I believe it's called.
And when they bite you, you know, they unload on you with all this fucking toxin and it just crushes your skin.
Whereas like...
Giant gaping wounds occur from one little spider bite because all the area around your skin dies and rots.
It's scary shit, man.
Really spooky shit.
Let me find this fucking...
jon lajoie
I'm never going out again.
I'm taking this fleshlight home.
joe rogan
Brazilian Wandering Spider.
That's what it is.
And I believe we've talked about it on the podcast before.
You gotta look this up.
brian redban
Were you always a musician growing up?
Did you rap growing up?
joe rogan
Don't change subject, motherfucker.
We're talking about vipers and shit.
unidentified
We're talking about spiders.
joe rogan
I wanted to bring up this one thing when we're talking about that.
jon lajoie
I watched the hornets versus wasps thing that you mentioned.
Was it hornets versus wasps?
When the hornets attack the bees' nests or whatever?
joe rogan
Yes.
Did you see that?
jon lajoie
I watched that, dude.
That was military shit.
joe rogan
Dude, that's scary.
Those are monsters.
I mean, if they were big, they were like horses.
Can you imagine if a bee was the size of a horse?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
This is what it's called, the Burmese Russell Viper.
That's what it is.
It's a Russell Viper.
And what these things, they cause uncontrollable hemorrhaging of your pituitary gland where all your sex hormones are controlled.
So if you get bit by this fucking thing and if you survive the bite, which you probably won't, you'll be permanently impotent.
And you become like a eunuch.
You lose all your pubic hair.
You stop producing testosterone.
Your body just gets jacked.
You get neutered.
You get neutered by a bite.
No, this is a python.
jon lajoie
Oh, it's a python.
joe rogan
What the spider does is the spider breaks your dick by forcing you to have raging, uncontrollable heart-ons that you can't...
Like painful, agonizing heart-ons.
And when the heart-on's over, your dick's broken.
So either you're dead, either you die, and by the way, it's the most potent toxin of any spider.
So it either kills you, or you live and your dick's broken forever.
So both animals break your dick.
jon lajoie
No wonder instinctively we're afraid of spiders.
You can see just a tiny spider, like, because some of those can fuck you up.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's genetic memories.
I'm absolutely convinced, and I've read about it before.
This guy, Rupert Sheldrake, was talking about, I believe he's an evolutionary biologist, and he was talking about how animals are what people are really terrified of, monsters.
No matter what the real dangers of your environment, if you're a child and you live in New York City, You're not worried about car accidents or rapists.
You're worried about monsters.
And the reason being is because there's some ancient, ancient memories of us when we used to get killed by jaguars and shit.
And we're scared of the night and we're scared of monsters.
Because that's really what they were, man.
And the ones that survived of this had carried this incredibly potent, terrifying memory.
And it's actually imprinted into people genetically.
We have this idea of instincts.
People have certain instincts.
But then what does that mean?
Okay, what does instincts mean?
You know something already, okay?
How do you know something already?
Is it because of past experience of your ancestors?
And is it comes through your genetics?
Well, how much stuff goes in there?
How much information is there?
What they've shown is that memes and some ideas, even useless ones like racism, can be transmitted through genetics.
So the same thing that causes you to have an instinct to not do something like, don't go near heights.
You already know it instinctively.
The same thing...
You can transmit other ideas into people's heads.
You can transmit even talent maybe into people's heads.
It's pretty fucking trippy when you think about it.
Because we don't have a documentation of where all our information comes from.
How much of your information is from your ancestors?
How much of it is from all these people that have lived before you that have made mistakes and learned from them and you sort of have this internal wisdom thing going on because of that?
brian redban
I believe that.
joe rogan
Totally, right?
jon lajoie
Yeah.
joe rogan
When you meet someone who's wise beyond their years, is it that they've had an incredibly difficult life?
That's a possibility.
Or is it that somehow or another they have gotten a rich history of people who have survived and learned shit and it's incorporated into their DNA? Yeah.
jon lajoie
Yeah, and it's very egotistical also to think that, oh, I'm just a smart person or I'm very careful because I'm afraid.
It's like, no, you're afraid.
You have millions of years of people going, that is bad, that is good, that is bad, that is good.
joe rogan
And it's not either or.
It's not either or.
I mean, you certainly have learned.
You certainly are smart.
And some people most certainly do learn better from fucked up situations.
There's a lot of them that absolutely do.
jon lajoie
Yeah, I got a lot of buddies who don't learn shit about them.
joe rogan
Man, there's a lot of that going on, man.
jon lajoie
Yeah, man.
joe rogan
There's a lot of people that don't ever learn, and you just gotta constantly fucking talk to them about shit.
Dude, come on, really?
What?
Fuck him, man.
unidentified
What?
jon lajoie
I've got a buddy who's got a third DUI. And I'm like, really?
Like, third?
brian redban
I don't get that, because I am very bad at drinking and driving.
Are you bad or are you good at it?
No, I'm really good at it.
And I think, I don't know if it's video games.
joe rogan
Do you drink and drive a lot?
jon lajoie
Well, how often do you drink and drive?
brian redban
Well, I mean, I think having a few beers is considered drinking and driving, so I probably drink and drive every day.
jon lajoie
Whoa!
joe rogan
Dude, listen, first of all, you're just kidding, because people can hear this, and cops listen to this, dummy, if they ever pull you over and go, I'm a fan of the podcast.
Get out of the car!
brian redban
What I'm saying is that anytime you go out, you have maybe a couple drinks.
You go in your car, that's considered drinking and driving.
If you have two beers in you, that's drunk.
joe rogan
I know whenever Brian is wrong about something, he gets very excited and raises his voice.
brian redban
How much do you want to bet?
I'll bet you money.
Two beers is drunk and you get pulled over.
jon lajoie
Oh yeah, you can't.
joe rogan
That's what I'm saying.
I can't do cash.
jon lajoie
A cab, man.
That's what I do.
brian redban
What?
A cab?
jon lajoie
If I'm going out anywhere, I'm drinking alcohol.
brian redban
My problem is I don't do the two.
If I have two or three even, I'm like, all right, I'm a big boy.
I know how to stay in between the lines and stuff.
But the problem is if I did get pulled over, of course I could get a DUI. What I want to know is these people that have three of them, is that usually the case?
Is your friend blackout drunk driving or is he just screwed?
jon lajoie
I don't know.
joe rogan
Maybe he's just got bad luck.
jon lajoie
No, no, no.
This guy does not have bad luck.
joe rogan
It's the only three times I've ever had more than one drink in my life.
jon lajoie
No, this guy's got good luck.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
It's worse than that?
jon lajoie
Oh, that's scary.
After three, he's done because he may go to jail.
You're like, oh, I'm never going to do that again.
unidentified
Really?
jon lajoie
After two?
Oh, God.
joe rogan
People are scary.
Drunks in cars, man.
People are scary.
That's the real problem.
There's too many of us and we can't help everybody get their shit together.
So you're always going to be around a bunch of people that are broken.
The way our society exists, it's just too goddamn big.
It's too big and the competition is too powerful and too strong for us to pay attention to all these people that are falling by the wayside.
So if you don't pay attention to them, well, all these fucking idiots, they're just running around, slamming into people.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, and you can't fix them.
You can't fix them, man.
You can't evolve the whole world.
It's like, God damn, I only got a certain amount of years.
This is ridiculous.
There's nothing you can do to help them.
They have to help themselves, and they don't want to.
They don't even think there's anything wrong with them.
You know, like, fuck you, bitch.
Ain't nothing wrong with me, bitch.
unidentified
Yeah.
jon lajoie
Can you imagine you, the end of your life is some idiot who's just like, fucking wasted, gets this car.
I can drive home.
joe rogan
It happens all the time, man.
jon lajoie
And you just smack it.
It's terrifying.
joe rogan
And there's so many of them out there that there's almost nothing you can do about it.
You just have to be vigilant, keep an eye out, be very careful as you're driving.
Getting connected in any way, randomly, on purpose, to fucking nuts, to people that suck, to dummies.
So many of them out there, man.
We all know them.
We all know dudes who are just beyond fixing.
I know a bunch of dudes that if I knew I could get away with it, I'd fucking shoot them right.
Shoot him right in the head.
If I was alone in the woods and it was like Armageddon time and there was no more media and cell phones didn't work anymore and I thought this dude would be a problem, I'd just walk him in the woods.
Come on, let's go for a walk.
Yo, man, I saw some deer over here.
You want to help me hunt?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Let's go hunt.
unidentified
What's over there?
Boom!
jon lajoie
Yeah.
brian redban
I remember you said one of the people in Austin scared the shit out of whoever we were with.
I can't remember who we were with.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
brian redban
They were like, is he being serious?
Kill him.
jon lajoie
You do that like in Mice and Men.
You just bring your friend.
You're like, look over there.
We're going to go to that bar.
We're going to pick up chicks all night.
We're going to get wasted.
It's going to be a good time.
joe rogan
There's certain people, man.
jon lajoie
And just keep looking there.
unidentified
Pow!
Pow!
joe rogan
Yeah.
There's certain people that you worry when you're around them.
There's certain people that you feel like they're going to victimize your loved ones.
You know, there's certain people, like, you know, a certain level of criminal, a certain level of violent offender, you know, and random violent offender, like people raping, you know, and beat women up.
And then, you know, that could be your mom, that could be your sister, that could be your daughter.
That guy should be dead.
Dead.
Not in jail.
Not for a year.
Not for a day.
Shoot him and let's move on.
Okay?
We got a broken person.
We can't fix him.
Their favorite thing to do is to hurt people.
The favorite thing to do is to hurt people that you love.
And the vulnerable ones.
The women.
Really?
Kill it.
Kill it now.
Kill it with fucking fire or bullets.
Whatever's cheapest.
Fuck him.
Sorry.
Come back as a butterfly.
Suck my cock.
Bye.
Bang, bang, bang.
Fuck you, stupid.
jon lajoie
Yeah, you do it humanely also.
He doesn't know he's gonna die.
We just go, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Doesn't even matter if it's humane.
Just fucking shoot him.
His last moments are important.
You know, don't torture him.
But, you know, just the police stop.
unidentified
Shut the fuck up!
joe rogan
Doesn't matter if you yell at him.
You're going to shoot him in the head.
jon lajoie
Was it worse to yell at him?
joe rogan
Yeah, right?
Well, animals in the zoo.
I mean, how many animals in the zoo need to be fed?
What are we going to give them steak?
That's stupid.
Give them live chickens.
Give them fucking people, man.
Get some cunts.
Throw cunts in there.
I bet bears would love to eat cunts.
They're tired of berries.
They're tired of picnic baskets.
Just throw a cunt in that cage.
Some fucking guy who's been busted for the fifth time drinking and driving and slides into a family of five.
Throw him in that fucking cage.
brian redban
We will.
Dana White will be in charge of that in the future.
It'll be in Coliseum.
joe rogan
No, that's when I take over the UFC. Dana's going to retire.
They're going to ask me to take his job.
I'm going to go, okay, I got an idea, though.
Sit down.
Listen, after the nuclear war, life is cheap.
jon lajoie
Dude, I'd watch that, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, I would too.
That's the problem.
If we could go back in time right now to the Coliseum, what would you do?
Would you stand up and say, you must stop this.
Please, what are you doing?
No.
You would sit down and you would go, are you going to drink that wine?
Yeah, fuck it.
We would be sitting there, we'd be drinking wine, right next to us there'd be some old dude fucking some boy in the ass.
That's how they rocked it back then.
They would just bend them over the fucking rails of the Coliseum and bang them in the ass while the things are going on.
Yeah.
Dude, they were banging little boys left and right back then.
And you just had to look away.
Look away and be glad.
jon lajoie
How long would it take us to be banging boys?
Let's say we jump in a time machine and you're like, it's just so culturally accepted.
And everyone's doing it.
All of a sudden you're like, fuck it.
And you're like, why am I fucking this kid?
unidentified
I don't know.
jon lajoie
Can you imagine?
You're like, oh, well, it's kind of accepted.
And then you go back to the future and you're like, what'd you do?
Not much.
unidentified
Not much.
brian redban
Powdered wig.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
That is so funny.
Oh, my God.
How long would it take you to think in jail before you started going gay?
brian redban
Never.
joe rogan
Never?
You never go again?
brian redban
Never would go again.
joe rogan
What if it was like a really feminine guy, like really soft, hardly any pubes?
brian redban
Masturbation?
joe rogan
Forever?
jon lajoie
Like everyone who says they wouldn't, like, you're like, I'm sure those fucking dudes when they were going to jail were like, I'm not gonna be gay.
And like 15 years down the line, like, well, I feel like fucking something.
joe rogan
I don't think it's 15 days, man.
I think they just start getting their dick sucked right away.
Fuck it, we're in.
In the Mexican community, they call it gay for the stay.
There's a thing with a lot of people that go to jail and do some gay shit, but they only do it in jail.
When they get out, they're not gay at all.
You ever see that American Me, that Edward James Almost movie?
There was a lot of that going on in that movie.
Like, he would come out, he was all fucked up sexually, just wanted to rape chicks, bang them in the ass, because that's how you'd get guys in jail.
Yeah, it was a really creepy movie, man.
It was like a first real exposure to the Mexican gang culture that I ever had, or any L.A. gang culture, you know?
That and Colors.
I watched a music video for Colors the other day, and I forgot about that movie.
unidentified
Colors, Colors, Colors.
I am a night man walking, psychopath talking.
Colors, Colors, Colors.
joe rogan
It was Ice-T before he played a cop on TV. Isn't that the most ridiculous shit ever?
Ice-T is a cop on TV. He's like, what?
How did that happen?
He had a song called Cop Killer.
A song, okay?
It wasn't a part he was playing.
He wrote that shit.
You know?
I'm a motherfucking cop killer!
I remember Ice-T was in a rock band for a while.
unidentified
Do you remember that?
jon lajoie
Oh yeah, Body Count.
unidentified
Body Count, Body Motherfucking Count.
jon lajoie
That was some hard core shit.
joe rogan
I met him at the Comedy Store one night.
He was in the audience at the Comedy Store one night.
He was cool.
I made some joke.
I forgot what it was.
I was a big Ice-T fan when I was a kid.
I used to listen to newspapers.
I used to listen to Ice-T's rap albums.
Let's Get Buck Naked and Fuck.
jon lajoie
Yeah, yeah.
Holy shit.
joe rogan
He had some great shit.
It's just so weird seeing him playing a cop.
It's like, what?
unidentified
Huh?
joe rogan
Ice-T is playing a dad.
You kids sit down back there?
jon lajoie
Yeah, he's not Ice-Q. Ice-Q, rather.
joe rogan
He's playing a dad.
jon lajoie
Like, man.
joe rogan
I mean, he is a dad.
I understand all that.
But god damn, dude.
jon lajoie
If EZU were alive, he'd be like on Two and a Half Men or something.
joe rogan
If EZU was alive, he'd take a dick out of his mouth and go, will you stop that?
That's gay.
jon lajoie
Yeah, Body Count had this song where he kills his mom, chops her up, flushes her down the toilet.
We were kids going, what the fuck is wrong with this guy?
joe rogan
He went as dark as he could.
jon lajoie
Oh, yeah, man.
joe rogan
It was Eazy-E, the first guy to ever die from AIDS. In the world or just the rapper?
No, in the entertainment world.
Was it Arthur Ashe or was it Eazy-E? I don't remember.
Who died first?
jon lajoie
I think Eazy-E is the first one I know of.
joe rogan
Did Arthur Ashe die of AIDS, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Eazy-E was one of the rare ones.
I remember when Eazy-E died of AIDS. I was like, holy shit.
I always thought this was just the beginning and I'm looking down the line at some Mad Max situation where I'm walking around town with one of those Chinese face mask things on.
You always see the Chinese people at the airports.
I'm like, what the fuck, man?
Is this really going to happen?
Like, everyone's just going to start dropping like flies?
And then it just stopped.
And you're like, what the fuck was Eazy-E doing?
That Magic Johnson wasn't.
jon lajoie
He was not fucking the flashlight, man.
joe rogan
It's weird, man.
It's weird, right?
jon lajoie
Yeah, what the fuck's up with Magic Johnson?
Like, I'm kind of creeped out.
joe rogan
It's crazy.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
I've heard a bunch of different stories, so I can't really comment.
I've heard stories about him taking medication.
I've heard stories that he doesn't need the medication anymore.
And then I heard he stopped taking the medication and his symptoms started reoccurring.
The weird thing is that he tests negative, apparently.
He tests HIV negative.
Because the way HIV works is what you can really test is you can test for the antibodies.
I don't think they can accurately test for the actual antibodies.
You know, the virus inside you.
Very tricky.
jon lajoie
Well, the first guy ever, who was HIV positive, it's not clear how it happened, but the first HIV positive, they cured it somewhere in Sweden or something.
joe rogan
Oh, with stem cells, right?
jon lajoie
Yeah, with the stem cells, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, that was recently.
jon lajoie
Yeah, like a month ago or so.
joe rogan
It's amazing how much shit they can accomplish with stem cells.
They have to dance around stuff.
Like the skin gun, have you heard about this thing that they've got?
There's a new thing that they've figured out how to do where they can actually take cultures from your skin, they reproduce with your own stem cells, and then they spray it in sort of a gun on your skin where it's burnt.
And it only takes like a certain amount of time to cultivate, like an hour or two to cultivate.
They can do it really quickly.
They reproduce this stuff and then they spray it on you and it radically cuts down healing time.
Radically.
Like they showed this one guy who had been burnt in a fire and then he looked like he didn't have a fucking scratch on him.
They showed images of this guy, giant blistering second degree burns, big welts all over his hand and shit.
Well, they spray this shit on him, man, and it builds like within four days.
You've got like new skin and it looks healed.
It's a trip.
And it's all stem cells.
jon lajoie
It's too bad he's going to hell, though.
joe rogan
It's from his own body, though.
This is what people don't understand.
You don't have to kill babies to get stem cells.
jon lajoie
Yeah, everyone thinks that everything comes from the fetus, but you don't have to.
Now they have a way to reverse it, like to take your own and reverse it to like it's, I don't, I fucking don't know how it works.
joe rogan
What people thought was that they were going to encourage abortion because people needed babies.
They needed stem cells from fetuses.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, goddamn, man.
Let them work with shit.
It's like these nutty Christians that have these kooky ideas about what they should and shouldn't do with tissue and cells.
Like, what the fuck?
What should you do?
If a girl has an abortion, should you just flush it?
You're telling me there's something that you can learn in there that can unlock the secret to immortality or cure cancer or whatever the fuck it can do.
You're telling me you should just throw it away because it's dead and it's immoral and somehow or another you're profiting off of abortion?
jon lajoie
Yeah.
joe rogan
But the reality is people are so creepy, they probably would start doing abortion, right?
They would start encouraging them, like, you want a baby?
You want a fucking baby?
Holy shit, they yell.
jon lajoie
Dude, how long before there was abortion porn?
Think about that.
People like just...
unidentified
How long before there was abortion porn?
brian redban
We had a porn star on that Naughty Show podcast I did yesterday that was eating out a girl and started bleeding and they were like, you know, she started her period and found out it was a miscarriage in her mouth.
So she was eating a pussy, probably two pussies.
jon lajoie
A pussy and a pussy.
unidentified
Guys would pay a lot of money as double pussies.
joe rogan
I'm so sad right now.
I'm so sad right now.
jon lajoie
Sometimes you're like, man, human beings, man.
unidentified
Wow.
jon lajoie
Fucked up shit.
joe rogan
Well, that's not anybody's fault there.
jon lajoie
No, no, that's...
brian redban
That was Kayla Page.
Support Kayla Page for Penthouse.
joe rogan
Oh, you were telling me about her, right?
So you've been doing these Naughty Show podcasts.
Are you going to keep doing those?
brian redban
Yeah, I'm going to try to do that.
joe rogan
Tell everybody about the other podcasts you have, because you have a website, deathsquad.tv, right?
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
That's where they're all located.
brian redban
All the podcasts are there.
They're all on iTunes.
joe rogan
People ask us, like, what is this Death Squad shit?
What are you guys, badass?
No, it's totally not that.
Opie, from Opie and Anthony, nicknamed us the Death Squad a long time ago.
Because I came onto the Opie and Anthony show, and at the time, it was my friend Tate Fletcher, who was on The Ultimate Fighter, and he was on the show at the time.
He came with me, and Eddie Bravo, who's the jiu-jitsu guy.
So they're just my friends.
We were just traveling together.
And so they came into the studio and Opie goes, oh, Joe Rogan brought in the Death Squad.
And then we just started like, that's right, we're the Death Squad, bitch.
So juvenile and ridiculous.
And so over the top and retarded.
So we decided to keep it.
brian redban
Yeah, so we do this Naughty Show podcast.
It's usually a porn star and Sam Tripoli's Naughty Show.
joe rogan
And Sam, who's our buddy, who's been on the podcast...
A bunch of times.
And I did a bunch of touring with Sam up in Canada.
We did Toronto together.
Sam's awesome.
brian redban
And Jason Tebe.
And so anyways, it's once a week.
joe rogan
And Jason Tebe's awesome too.
I don't want to leave you out there, dude.
You know I love you.
brian redban
Anyways, we're all at Desquad.TV. And so is all the pilots.
We do a lot of pilots.
joe rogan
And they also do, whenever there's a UFC, they get hammered and they watch the UFC together and do their own coinciding podcast, like talking shit about fights as they go down.
And sometimes you even had Joey on that one once, right?
How fucking fun was that?
brian redban
It was great.
joe rogan
Well, you get to go watch the UFC with Joey.
I have to commentate, man.
He sits next to Joey Diaz, you know?
jon lajoie
That's good.
joe rogan
You can't get any better entertainment than Joey Diaz.
The last UFC, high on acid, okay?
He drops two tabs of acid and watching cage fights, and they all, I mean, what was that like?
What was that like sitting there with him for six hours?
brian redban
Well, it's like you're in bed with him because the seats are so small, so you're kind of like on his lap, like holding like a big stuffed animal.
So you got that, but then you got like the most hilarious commentary.
Ever.
And what's cool is that that's what we do on the UFC Drunk House.
We pretty much, you know, we'll have some people like that, Joey Diaz and stuff like that, and just getting drunk and watching UFCs.
And it's kind of like a commentary.
A lot of your fans like to re-watch the UFCs.
So it's like, hey, you know, turn it on with our commentary this time.
And it's just a bunch of other, you know, comics just doing your job by drinking and smoking weed and cussing.
joe rogan
But allow to do it the right way.
brian redban
And do it the right way, yeah.
joe rogan
Well, I can never do it the right way, too, because a lot of things you say when you're fucking around with your friends are very disrespectful.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
You know, you say, goodnight, bitch!
What the fuck?
unidentified
Fuck I tell you!
You know, hope you brought your jammies!
joe rogan
You know, guys will sit when they're drunk and they're stoned and they're talking shit, but they would never say that to the fighter or want the fighter to hear that or want anybody else to even...
It's only between friends as a goof.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
So what Joey could say is so much different than anything I could say.
Joey says crazy shit sometimes.
jon lajoie
I saw him on the Alex Jones thing.
joe rogan
Oh my God.
jon lajoie
I was so fucking...
joe rogan
He's the funniest guy that's ever lived, man.
We did Vegas two weeks ago, dude.
He came up and he opens up the show, which is the perfect way to do it.
Because Joey's not like an act that likes to do like an hour.
Joey doesn't have time to do an hour.
His pace, he's got this destructo 15 minute pace.
And that's what he does.
He doesn't want to do a 45 minute set.
So when I take Joey on the road with me, it's like I'm taking another headliner.
I mean, he's a fucking headliner, and he opens, and he goes up and just smashes it.
Dude, he made me laugh so hard, I literally fell down.
I was leaning against a wall.
We were all back there.
Joey was on stage, and we were in the alleyway that leads the stage where the curtains are at the Lion King Theater in Mandalay Bay.
Big giant ass fucking place.
And we're leaning up against the wall and Joey's killing so hard.
We're all rocking back and forth and dudes are bending over.
People are slapping their legs.
We're all like moving around.
We're standing still, but nobody was standing still.
You're laughing.
I literally fell down.
I fell down.
I dropped to a knee.
That's awesome.
He crushes.
He's got this bit about this yoga.
He's taking yoga lately and he's a 68 year old lady in his yoga class.
I'm gonna fuck that old bitch.
I swear to God, Joe Rogan.
He's got this bit about it.
We were crying laughing, man.
He's got this bit about getting in a fight, a true story about a fight that he got in with a nun when he was a kid.
Oh, you gotta fucking see it, man.
Is that the funniest shit you've ever seen?
brian redban
Anything he says is hilarious.
joe rogan
He's such a fucking treat to hang out with, too.
brian redban
He's gonna be in Arizona this weekend, too.
joe rogan
Yeah, where's he at?
brian redban
The new club, I believe.
joe rogan
No, no.
He's on some completely different thing.
Yeah, because they got upset with him that he wasn't doing the new club.
And he's like, you're not even open yet, stupid.
Danny Murr got upset with him.
brian redban
Danny Murr.
joe rogan
But Joey, he's one of those guys, man, that just makes you...
There's him back then when he was really young.
That's when I met Joey.
Grab that picture, man.
Grab that picture.
For the folks on Ustream, you'll be able to see this.
For folks watching on iTunes, I don't know if it's available online anymore.
I have to upload it.
But this was Joey Diaz when I first met him.
And Joey only weighed like, you know, like fucking 210, 215 pounds.
He's a big guy.
He's always been like a big football player looking guy.
And this is him, you know, like right after he started doing comedy.
I met him like a couple years after he started when he moved from Seattle to L.A. Was he a comedy store guy?
Yeah.
He's just such a fun fucking guy.
There's people that you meet in your life and they're just the life of the party.
No one in my life has ever been the life of the party like Joey Diaz.
I've met a couple of crazy people that are cool to hang around with every now and then, but no one just gets shit jumping like Joey Diaz.
He goes on stage dancing and right away just sets the tone.
He's the fucking man, dude.
He's so fun.
It's so important, man, to have fun, fucking cool people in your life.
Is that the most important thing in life?
It really is, right?
More than anything else.
Being some rich cunt who's no friends, that's gotta suck bad, man.
Being some dude, living in some giant fucking mansion, 14 Ferraris, running sweatshops and shit.
jon lajoie
Citizen Kane or the social network.
It sucks to be rich and by yourself.
joe rogan
It's gotta be.
What a dumb thing to say.
Is it important to have friends?
unidentified
I'm Barney.
joe rogan
Hi, kids.
I love you.
unidentified
You love me.
joe rogan
We're a happy family.
That's how you see things.
When you have kids, you see everything through the eyes of children's shows.
My daughter took a fucking log, a log in her potty the other day that I swear to God looked like Joey Diaz shit in there.
I couldn't believe how big it is.
It's shocking.
I almost took a picture of it, but I just thought that's disrespectful.
Put my daughter's shits on Twitter.
I just wanted everybody to see it.
You need to take a look at this.
This doesn't even seem normal.
Do I need to go to a doctor?
Her shit was like my forearm.
jon lajoie
Was that her first big shit?
joe rogan
No, she takes logs.
She's my daughter.
She's a little savage.
She's fucking eating meat and shit.
I bought venison jerky and she just tears into this shit.
She's just chewing up venison jerky.
It's really weird, man.
You know, you look at little babies, like the newest baby, Baby Rogan No.
2, she's almost nine months old.
And when she gets food, it doesn't matter.
She can eat solid food, but you've got to watch her.
You've got to be careful.
You've got to make sure that she can't get anything she can choke on.
But she always screams for food.
And one of the things she likes to do is get bones.
She likes to put bones in her mouth and lick the bones.
And it's like a big rib bone.
And it's just so weird to watch this little baby with a bone from a dead animal and she's completely transfixed on this thing.
She has one fucking tooth, man.
She's got one tooth.
And she's gnawing at this bone with this meat on it.
And like, if you try to take it from her, she will fucking scream.
I mean, scream.
The baby wants the murdered animal.
You know?
Just instinctual.
More than anything else.
I've given her apples.
I've given her bananas.
I've given her a bunch of shit before.
And she likes it.
It's all good.
It's all nice.
But nothing like that bone.
You give her a bone.
It's just like giving a dog a bone.
You know?
You give a dog dog food, they're like, hey, thanks for the dog food.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You give a dog a bone and you test what your relationship is with him.
You know?
Because you might want to take that back.
I want that bone back.
Oh, what's up, bitch?
I found your line.
This is the line.
jon lajoie
My dog bit me a few times, taking his bone.
joe rogan
Really?
jon lajoie
Yeah.
Well, he was a biter.
I got him at the shelter.
joe rogan
Oh, wow.
jon lajoie
And right away, he was biting.
I was like, fuck, I got a biter.
joe rogan
How old was he?
jon lajoie
He was a year and a half.
joe rogan
Whoa.
jon lajoie
Yeah, he'd bite like...
No, no, small.
joe rogan
What kind of dog?
jon lajoie
Like 25. He was...
Fuck.
A Boston Terrier and...
A Cocker Spaniel.
So it kind of looked like a baby lab, but he was fucked up in the head, man.
And young boys, like teenage boys, he did not like.
He had some fucked up owners, for sure.
He couldn't sit, give the paw.
I taught him that in 15 minutes, but he was clueless when I got him.
So he was kind of fucked up.
joe rogan
How long have you had him now?
jon lajoie
You know, he's dead.
He died like last year.
joe rogan
Sorry.
jon lajoie
No, no, not at all.
joe rogan
You have to say sorry.
I'm not really sorry.
jon lajoie
You're not sorry about my dead dog.
You need to high-five them.
joe rogan
Hey, man, my dog's died too, dude, alright?
jon lajoie
You're like, yeah.
joe rogan
You ain't the only one, bro.
jon lajoie
Fucking dead dog.
joe rogan
You ain't the only one, bro.
jon lajoie
But yeah, he'd bite them.
And fucking, the bone.
The bone and the weed, man.
And I don't get my dog stoned.
I'm not one of those guys that, hey, Jake, I'm gonna get my dog stoned.
But I'd see him, and all of a sudden he's stoned, and I'm like, fuck, I had a piece of cookie.
unidentified
No!
jon lajoie
And he ate the cookie.
joe rogan
I had a dog that was, she was a rescue dog too, and we got her high accidentally once.
Me and Joey were in my office in my old house, just hitting the bong.
And this is my early weed days.
I was just learning how to smoke weed.
And I couldn't believe that I'd gone 30 years of my life without knowing about weed, and I was just going overboard.
So me and Joey got blasted in my office and the dog was so paranoid.
It was so crazy.
She was running from everything and hiding under furniture.
I couldn't get her to come out.
It was weird.
I was like, why are you hiding?
I'm like, oh, she's high as fuck.
That dog got a contact high.
They're hanging out with us.
unidentified
It's weird.
joe rogan
But it was a rescue dog, too.
So her being high was not like a happy puppy that you raised being high.
Like if I got high with Johnny, Johnny doesn't have any fears.
Johnny's a happy dog.
He's got a good life.
But you get a rescue dog.
That dog was like three or four years old before I got her.
Who knows?
And she was living on the street in L.A. eating out of garbage cans when they caught her.
And she had mange.
Her body was covered in mange when I first got her.
So I had to treat her with chemicals.
I had it with some sort of medicine.
I had to wash her and I had to feed her.
She ate insane amounts of food.
She could not eat enough.
She was in a voracious appetite.
So voracious, she was sneaking out of my house.
Even though I fed her, she's a fat pig.
She was sneaking out of my house.
She had a hole that she found where she would go under the fence, she would go to the neighbor's house, tip over their garbage, eat their garbage, And then sneak back in the yard, and I had no idea she was doing it.
She was doing it forever.
I'm like, this dog's fat as fuck.
I'm giving her diet dog food.
She's fatter, man.
What the fuck is happening?
She just kept eating.
Clever dog, man.
jon lajoie
Clever dog.
joe rogan
Well, they have this thing where they feel like they're never going to have enough food.
They can't stop eating.
They will keep eating until they get sick.
She got into a bag once.
She ate a bag of dog food and just ate so much that her whole body was hard.
Like, it was the weirdest thing ever.
It's like, her stomach was hard.
I was worried about her.
And she threw up, and then she would eat the throw-up.
I mean, it's like, she couldn't...
She was never satisfied.
jon lajoie
Yeah, and I think it's the same kind of thing is happening when you leave and when you come back.
Like, you walk in, literally they're so happy that you came back.
Because they can't...
They're eating, like, oh, I don't know.
Tomorrow I may not eat.
He just left.
He's probably not coming back.
Fuck, I'm fucked.
I'm alone again.
And then all of a sudden you come back.
unidentified
What the fuck?
jon lajoie
You came back?
joe rogan
When you think about some dogs where they've done tests where they show that when owners are coming home, that the dogs respond, even when they're coming home at not normal hours, unusual hours, that through hidden cameras they've found that dogs can anticipate when their masters are coming home.
jon lajoie
Really?
From how, like...
brian redban
I believe it.
joe rogan
Driving.
Driving in their car on the way over there.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, and it's not like a lot of dogs.
I don't think it's...
But it's enough that, you know, you have to go, well, what is this?
What's going on here?
Are they smelling it?
brian redban
Cabo used to, like, be sleeping on the couch.
And then, like, he would just immediately wake up and then just, like, sit by the door.
And, like, ten minutes later, my girlfriend would walk in the door.
It was always so weird, and I always thought it was just the time, because the time was always kind of around the same time.
joe rogan
The dog doesn't have a fucking watch.
It's ridiculous.
jon lajoie
Yeah, but the dog looks around and goes, okay, when it starts, the big rock that is bright outside goes down, and then he starts playing with that machine over there that makes the food.
That kind of problem, that means it figures out its own way.
unidentified
Maybe.
Maybe.
joe rogan
I don't know, because what they showed was hidden camera footage.
The dog would respond and get up and start walking around as the owner was coming home.
It's a trip, man.
You wonder, what kind of a weird connection is it with dogs?
They're just always so happy, always excited to see you.
This weird fucking relationship you have.
They require food from you.
What a weird psychic connection you have to this strange animal.
They know when you're coming home.
The fuck is going on, man?
jon lajoie
Yeah, well, who's to say?
There isn't, you know?
unidentified
Who's to say?
jon lajoie
Who's to say?
joe rogan
Who knows?
All right.
That's about it, right?
jon lajoie
I guess so.
joe rogan
That's good.
That's the way to end it.
Where are you at, man?
When's the next time someone can see you?
jon lajoie
I'm going to be in Minneapolis at some theater.
joe rogan
Some theater?
You don't know where it is?
jon lajoie
Fuck!
I don't know.
joe rogan
Well, go to...
Is it jeanlejoie.com?
jon lajoie
Yeah, jeanlejoie.com or go to my YouTube page, which is youtube.com slash J-O-N-L-A-J-O-I-E. And they're all there.
And I'm going...
joe rogan
It's J-O-N, jeanlejoie.com.
jon lajoie
Yeah, no H in there.
And check it out.
And I have a new video I'm working on.
It should be out Monday.
joe rogan
Can you give us a sneak?
jon lajoie
It's called I Am Very Super Famous and is from MC Vagina, the guy who brought you Show Me Your Genitals and I Kill People.
When is this going to be out?
Monday morning, I'm hoping.
I'm still editing it now.
joe rogan
Do you do everything yourself?
Shoot it, direct it, edit it, write it?
That's awesome, man.
Do you have High as Fuck on there?
We're going to end this with High as Fuck.
This weekend, Friday night and Sunday night, we're going to be at Sal's Comedy Hole on Melrose.
It's a little tiny spot.
It's only like 80 people.
We're just going to go there and fuck around.
brian redban
Doug Benson's coming too.
joe rogan
Doug Benson's coming?
Oh, beautiful.
Brian's going to be there.
Little Esther's going to be there.
Who else?
Is Ari coming?
brian redban
Sam Tripoli.
I called Ari today.
I haven't talked about it.
joe rogan
Ari might be coming too.
Ari's doing sets all over town.
Steve's going to come down?
Awesome.
Jason Tebow.
Very funny.
So that's it.
Next weekend, we're doing Brea, the Improv at Brea.
It will sell out, so get tickets if you want to.
Get them in advance.
And then in Australia, at Rudy Hill, that place that I'm doing, it's called It's called an RSL club, whatever the fuck that is.
I don't know what that is.
I'm not sure.
brian redban
It's like an Italian club or something like that.
joe rogan
Well, no, it's like a veterans thing.
But they just added a second show.
There was an 8 o'clock show.
It's sold out.
So now there's a 10 o'clock show.
And that is Saturday the 26th, which will be like the 25th here or something like that.
It's real weird.
They're like a whole day ahead.
jon lajoie
Have you done shows in Australia?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's fun.
jon lajoie
Yeah, I'm booking some now.
I haven't been.
joe rogan
Fucking great, man.
Sydney's fun.
They don't give a fuck.
The men are men.
The women are women.
There's dangerous animals everywhere.
There's crocodiles and shit.
I love it there, man.
It's a great time.
And the people are friendly as fuck.
I enjoy the shit out of it.
So that's it.
Tickets go on sale for Seattle.
I'm playing the Moore Theater.
And the Moore Theater in...
I think it's in March.
Um...
Yes.
March 25th, they go on sale on Friday.
All right.
Thank you, everybody, for everything.
Next week, we're going to have Pete Johansson, a very funny comedian from Canada.
Do you know Pete?
jon lajoie
I know of him.
I don't know him, but he's very funny.
joe rogan
He's hilarious.
He'll be here, and who knows who else, and eventually I'll get Dave Foley, and I've got to call Boss Rootin.
All right, bitches.
That's the end of the show.
I'll see you in a couple days.
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jon lajoie
He's great.
joe rogan
Keep me in line.
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All right.
Thank you, everybody.
We love you, bitches.
jon lajoie
Thanks for having me, guys.
joe rogan
Thank you.
Jean Lajoie, you are the man.
unidentified
You ever watch the sun go down And you're thinking about the world spinning round Have you ever been high as fuck?
You're in the bathroom mirror talking to yourself And your dog's looking at you like you need help Have you ever been high as fuck?
Then you feel your heart pumping really fast And you're convinced that you're gonna have a heart attack Have you ever been high as fuck?
You close your eyes and you're on a chicken farm The only problem is that the chickens have human arms You say that's fucked up, why do the chickens have human arms?
You need snacks, so you walk to the corner store But you're scared because you think that they will know you're high So you walk around the block to buy some time We're good
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