Jan. 4, 2011 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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| And... | ||
| Will Harris, you're live. | ||
| Man, this is crazy. | ||
| You're on the other side of the camera now. | ||
| Let me give you an introduction for people who don't know. | ||
| Will is the man behind Anatomy of the Fighter. | ||
| If you've ever seen any of those videos, particularly the most famous one was when Conor McGregor threw that dolly at the bus with Khabib Nurmagomedov was on it, and it became a huge part of the promotion, which I thought was weird that it was this... | ||
| Shameful act, right? | ||
| That he did that. | ||
| I mean, really awful. | ||
| Caught a bunch of innocent people that were on the bus, but they used it over and over and over again. | ||
| That was your footage. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| A lot of people didn't even know, including me. | ||
| No one did. | ||
| You know, I was telling a friend the other day, it was funny. | ||
| No one has ever heard this, but when it happened... | ||
| I showed Khabib at the back of the bus because he had a smile on his face. | ||
| And I showed him and everybody else on the bus that I actually caught Conor doing it because they didn't really know it was Conor. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So I remember Khabib looked at the footage. | ||
| I was holding the camera and he was like, brother. | ||
| You can get paid from this. | ||
| It's like, bro, this is worth $100,000. | ||
| He looked at his manager, Ali. | ||
| A shout out to Ali. | ||
| And he was like, give him some money. | ||
| He deserves this. | ||
| And then I gave it to the UFC to use for Embedded. | ||
| And I thought that was just it. | ||
| They promoted the fight with it and I was like, damn, I should have just leaned my head to the right and got hit by the dolly so I could not have to be doing, you know, GoFundMes and shit. | ||
| Well, what you should have done is ask for money for it. | ||
| That video footage was, it turned out it was very valuable. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Because it set up the fight, which also set up the post-fight brawl. | ||
| I mean, there was so much that was involved in him throwing that dolly, and you caught that video. | ||
| And they played that shit over and over and over. | ||
| I was actually kind of shocked that they did that. | ||
| Because at the time, we were like, whoa, Conor might go to jail. | ||
| That was like legitimate assault. | ||
| They used it the next day. | ||
| I was like, damn. | ||
| WME is merciless. | ||
| When I saw it on Fox News and CNN, I was just like, that's my footage. | ||
| Because when you're building a channel or a series like that, you think, oh, this is my moment. | ||
| Everybody has a moment. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And unfortunately, the UFC promoted it. | ||
| And shout out to them because they've been nothing but good to me. | ||
| I can't say anything. | ||
| I still wish I would have got something from it. | ||
| You should have got something from it. | ||
| Pull this mic up. | ||
| Just get it up there, like a fist from your face. | ||
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There you go. | |
| Right there, right there. | ||
| Yeah, no, you do a fantastic job. | ||
| I mean, you really do. | ||
| And like I said, until that video footage came out, I didn't know that you weren't even a part of the UFC's promotion team. | ||
| I didn't know. | ||
| I thought maybe WME had hired you, and this is another thing that they're working on. | ||
| I did not know that you were independent. | ||
| Well... | ||
| What was crazy is that I started it almost two years ago. | ||
| I was just sitting at home in Florida. | ||
| I was living in South Florida. | ||
| And I was hanging out with the guys at the Black Zillions at Jocko. | ||
| I had stumbled over there one day at the gym. | ||
| And I seen it when I was grocery shopping and I just stopped in. | ||
| And I was doing stuff with Shannon Briggs. | ||
| Let's go, champ. | ||
| Let's go, champ. | ||
| You did your stuff? | ||
| I was going to the heavyweight factory. | ||
| You do all those? | ||
| No, I wasn't doing his phone videos. | ||
| What happened was I reached out to him and he invited me to the Heavyweight Factory. | ||
| Holyfield was there, everybody. | ||
| And I just went there a few times and I created some creative videos for them. | ||
| Holyfield's still working out? | ||
| He was. | ||
| When I was there, I seen him. | ||
| He still looks good. | ||
| He does, man. | ||
| He's crazy. | ||
| He's like 50 years old. | ||
| At least 50 years old. | ||
| I got some amazing stories that I've never released about Tyson fight, crazy things. | ||
| Him talking about him? | ||
| When are you putting it out? | ||
| Well, initially, Anatomy of Fighting was just supposed to be a documentary. | ||
| That was it. | ||
| That was it. | ||
| Just an hour-long documentary. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I never knew who a Khabib was or nothing. | ||
| Really? | ||
| I just didn't know. | ||
| I knew Michael Johnson and all these guys because they was at the Black Zillions. | ||
| The first day I ever went in a gym, Michael Chandler, Kamaru Uzman. | ||
| Shout out to Kamaru Uzman because the first time I ever saw him, I thought he was a bum. | ||
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What? | |
| Because Michael Chandler gave it to him and I got it on camera. | ||
| And I thought Michael Chandler was the stud, right? | ||
| And then it was like, oh, he won the Ultimate Fighter, things like that. | ||
| So that was almost two years ago. | ||
| You thought he was a bum? | ||
| Yeah, just because I saw the- It wasn't a rough day in the gym. | ||
| It was sparring. | ||
| It was just sparring. | ||
| So I'm going around filming people, and then I just turned to the cage, and Michael Chandler just dropped him with a low shot, and then Michael Chandler walking around him. | ||
| I created this film called The Portrait of the Black Zillions. | ||
| That was the first thing I ever made because it was Glenn Robinson, RIP to him, and Tyrone Spong that really pushed me to do MMA. They saw the stuff that I did with Shannon Briggs. | ||
| And they called me into the office that same day that I gave whoever the manager was at Jocko the footage. | ||
| And Glenn just said, listen, we need this type of work in MMA. Like, this is high-quality stuff. | ||
| And Tyrone Spong was boxing, so I knew he was probably loving the footage with Shannon Briz because he didn't boxing. | ||
| And that's after he broke his leg against Kokan Saki, and he decided to just go straight to boxing. | ||
| So Tyrone, he's very persuasive. | ||
| And he's like, hey, hey, we need this in the gym. | ||
| So they gave me a pass to go to a sparring day and really work out with them. | ||
| And yeah, there it is right there. | ||
| But yeah, that's how it happened. | ||
| And I just kept going to the gym every day. | ||
| Put that back up, James. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's the first thing I ever filmed in my life called The Portrait of the Black Zillions. | ||
| And that shot of Michael Chandler, R.P. to Jordan Parsons. | ||
| That was a fighter that died after getting hit by a car. | ||
| But that's the first thing I ever filmed for Anatomy of Fire. | ||
| That was the sparring match. | ||
| And yeah, that was it. | ||
| And from there, everything was born. | ||
| I still was focusing on doing a documentary until I moved to Vegas a summer after that during a Conor McGregor and Floyd Mayweather fight. | ||
| I felt like I needed to move to Vegas because the energy was taking me there. | ||
| And I felt like, if I'm going to do a documentary, I might as well be in Vegas where a lot of fighters is. | ||
| This is a giant shift for you, right? | ||
| So what were you filming before two years ago when you were at the Black Zillions? | ||
| Before that, like I have a wedding business. | ||
| So I was doing weddings. | ||
| My big black ass is doing weddings. | ||
| Which is funny. | ||
| I'll go to these weddings and people will be like... | ||
| Because Will's sitting down. | ||
| Will's gigantic. | ||
| I'll tell you. | ||
| 6'5". | ||
| So he's towered over all these people filming their weddings. | ||
| I really thought like, man, my life is miserable at one point. | ||
| I was like, I'm just shooting these. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| After a while, like you win an award, then another award, then another award, and it's all based off reviews, right? | ||
| And it was like, man... | ||
| I gotta do something more than this. | ||
| So I did like basketball documentaries in Italy. | ||
| I lived in Italy for a minute. | ||
| I went to China, did a basketball documentary there because that's my background, basketball. | ||
| But after that, I was just like, man, what else can I do? | ||
| And I literally just stumbled. | ||
| I saw the gym one day, Jocko, and I was like, that's where them Black Zillions trained. | ||
| And I went over there and that's how all of it started. | ||
| So you just walked in, no martial arts training? | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| I just saw the gym and I was like, that's Jocko. | ||
| I know the Black Zillions trainer. | ||
| So I went in there like midday. | ||
| Nobody was in there. | ||
| And I just said, listen, I'm a filmmaker. | ||
| I would love to film some of these fighters. | ||
| Did you go to school for that? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So I went to college at University of Southern Indiana in Evansville on a basketball scholarship. | ||
| I was a top senior in America coming out of high school. | ||
| And I went to this top Division II school after I tried to wait my senior year to get some Division I offers. | ||
| If people know, Division I is the top level of basketball, and then Division II is right under that. | ||
| Probably not now, but back then it was. | ||
| And I went. | ||
| Bruce Pearl was my coach. | ||
| He was very persuasive to get me to come to the university. | ||
| He coaches at Auburn now. | ||
| They just went to the Final Four this year, if you know anything about basketball. | ||
| But I played my first year, and then going into my second year, I tore my ACL. And my life was over. | ||
| All I knew was basketball. | ||
| If anybody know anything about Carbondale, it's about 25,000 people. | ||
| People don't leave that town. | ||
| It's kind of a miserable thing. | ||
| I think the average household median income there is like $16,000 a year for families. | ||
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Jesus. | |
| So you come from the bottom. | ||
| Did you get it repaired? | ||
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No. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| So I had surgery. | ||
| I had the red shirt. | ||
| So when you're in college and you sit out of your red shirt. | ||
| So one day I was dating this girl and she was going to Walmart. | ||
| And she literally was just like, you want to come to Walmart with me? | ||
| And I was like, yeah. | ||
| I had some Pell Grant money. | ||
| And I was addicted to the... | ||
| You remember the MTV show Road Rules in Real World? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I used to be addicted to that stuff. | ||
| So I used to watch it all the time. | ||
| And I went to Walmart that day and bought a camera. | ||
| That was a Sony Handycam. | ||
| The one you used to put little mini DVDs in. | ||
| And that was the birth. | ||
| Literally, my life changed as soon as I bought that camera. | ||
| And I was like, oh, I'm going to just film my rehab and come back more ferocious. | ||
| And all I was doing was filming girls at parties, doing bongs and shit like that. | ||
| Literally, for four years, I had a camera every day. | ||
| So you just stopped playing basketball? | ||
| No, I continued to play basketball. | ||
| I came back a year after my red shirt. | ||
| I finished at one of the top five scores in school history and university history, top four rebounds, all-time leader in field goal percentage, All-American my senior year. | ||
| We went to the national championship, played on national TV, everything. | ||
| After that was done, I wasn't the same player after I tore my ACL. I can just admit that. | ||
| I was this high-flying, super-freak, athletic, 45-inch vertical type of player. | ||
| I couldn't do that anymore, so I had to adjust my whole game. | ||
| What was wrong? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Maybe I just, you know, it was different back in 2001, right? | ||
| As far as the surgery? | ||
| Yeah, as far as surgery. | ||
| Did you get the patella tendon graft? | ||
| I got patella, yep. | ||
| That's rough when they come back. | ||
| And they don't do that anymore. | ||
| They still do. | ||
| They do? | ||
| Yeah, George St. Pierre had that done. | ||
| They do that sometimes because they think that the patella tendon, I had it done in 90, no. | ||
| Yeah, 93. I had it done on this leg. | ||
| And then this one I had the cadaver, which was way easier. | ||
| Cadaver's like a six-month rehab, and I was back to jiu-jitsu 100%. | ||
| I was always, like, slightly knock-kneed, right? | ||
| And it's like that surgery made my left knee even more knock. | ||
| And it's like, that's why I was telling Jamie, like, I need that because I feel like I need to, like, strengthen my IT. Oh, you mean Jamie has this crazy roller thing. | ||
| What is that thing called again, Jamie? | ||
| A roll recovery. | ||
| Here, pull it up. | ||
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All right. | |
| I got it on. | ||
| Yeah, I need something like that. | ||
| Jamie's showing everybody. | ||
| There you go. | ||
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It's crazy. | |
| Heavy duty. | ||
| You clamp that thing down your thigh. | ||
| It didn't seem that good for my calves. | ||
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Well, you were standing on it. | |
| You can't have any tension on it or whatever. | ||
| But your thigh, it seems like it would be a lot of pressure because it's like a spring. | ||
| The thicker your muscle. | ||
| I don't know how much weight it is pushing on it, but it's a lot. | ||
| And you can also push with both sides. | ||
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For sure, yeah. | |
| What's it called then? | ||
| R8 role recovery. | ||
| It said medical grade on the box. | ||
| I was like, okay. | ||
| Oh, medical grade. | ||
| Like weed. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I feel like I need that to wake up my left leg still to this day. | ||
| Two decades later. | ||
| Did you go through rehab and everything? | ||
| I did. | ||
| I did all that. | ||
| It just didn't work as good? | ||
| So listen, I recovered fine. | ||
| My college career was totally fine. | ||
| But you just didn't feel the same? | ||
| I just didn't. | ||
| Honestly, I lost the love of basketball. | ||
| Honestly, after... | ||
| That's all I had in my life was basketball. | ||
| So once that was gone, even when I came back, I wasn't the same. | ||
| So even though I had games where I was 25 points, 15 rebounds, like great games, winning all these awards, all regional, it just wasn't there anymore. | ||
| And I had this camera That I love to just have because that year off, my first ever film I ever did was I went around campus and filmed girls and asked them who the hottest athletes was. | ||
| And I felt like they gave me power. | ||
| They gave me power just to be able to... | ||
| Because back then, that's when Girls Gone Wild was popular. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| Yeah, that was 2000. Girls Gone Wild. | ||
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Remember that? | |
| Remember that? | ||
| Man, Girls Gone Wild. | ||
| Doug Stanhope hosted that at one point in time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's funny. | ||
| So I graduated college in 2004. And I moved to Phoenix with my best friend, Mr. Organic. | ||
| And he was out there just living. | ||
| And I wanted to get out of my little town. | ||
| So I went out there and I kind of wanted to like take a year off and then try to play professional basketball. | ||
| Because you either play in the NBA or you go overseas to play basketball. | ||
| So I went to Phoenix with no idea what I was going to do in my life. | ||
| And I literally started working at a call center. | ||
| What was that old phone company that went out of business? | ||
| I can't remember what it was called, but I used to just call people, collect, and try to get them to sign up for long distance. | ||
| I got caught every word in the book every day, but it was funny. | ||
| People was calling you the N-word and everything, and you're just laughing because they're bad, right? | ||
| And then you convince some 90-year-old lady to sign up for long distance knowing it's illegal as hell. | ||
| You're just convincing this lady to sign up for long distance. | ||
| But I was good at it, though. | ||
| I was good at it. | ||
| So that was my first job I ever had in my life. | ||
| So it's like one of them shady phone, they call you up. | ||
| I get those robocalls. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You did that shit? | ||
| Do you want unlimited long distance? | ||
| Do you feel guilty? | ||
| A little bit. | ||
| But they went out of business like six months after I had the job. | ||
| From there, I just didn't know what I was going to do. | ||
| He's not my cousin, but he's somebody we all call our cousins. | ||
| Black people, we call everybody our cousins. | ||
| He played in the NBA. His name was Troy Hudson. | ||
| He was from my town. | ||
| He was the most successful person that ever got out of our town. | ||
| He was playing for the Minnesota Timberwolves. | ||
| I reached out to him because I basically was like, listen, man. | ||
| I need help because I want to play basketball again, but I don't have an agent. | ||
| I don't have anything. | ||
| So he kind of invited us up to Minneapolis. | ||
| That's the first time I literally went from Evansville, Phoenix to Minneapolis to try to pursue this whole basketball career. | ||
| And I did that for like three years, like chasing it, going to tryouts, things like that, sending tapes to agents and things like that. | ||
| And it just didn't pan out. | ||
| Nothing stuck. | ||
| You know, I had opportunities. | ||
| I just wasn't the same player. | ||
| And I can admit that. | ||
| And I'm comfortable with that. | ||
| Because I know I had a successful basketball career. | ||
| It just didn't go to the level where I made millions of dollars. | ||
| So after that, man, I was literally stuck. | ||
| After traveling around the world, I ended up in Malaysia. | ||
| I was in Australia trying to pursue... | ||
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Malaysia? | |
| You don't want to know how I ended up over here? | ||
| I do want to know. | ||
| Man, this is funny. | ||
| Only a few people know this story. | ||
| So... | ||
| When you're at your bottom, you try to find something for comfort. | ||
| I've never done weed or anything in my life, but I was addicted to online dating back then. | ||
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Really? | |
| Yes, I was trying to meet girls just to try to find some situation. | ||
| I felt like, oh, I feel incomplete, so let me online date or whatever. | ||
| And I met this girl. | ||
| One of my friends in Phoenix played basketball in Kuala Lumpur. | ||
| So, obviously, you need a visa to go over there. | ||
| So, I'm thinking to myself, what's the... | ||
| The way I could get over there to Kuala Lumpur and try to play basketball. | ||
| So I was like, online, dated. | ||
| I don't even remember what website it was. | ||
| You're a good looking guy. | ||
| I know. | ||
| How are you not getting girls in America? | ||
| I do. | ||
| But I'm just saying, I was just... | ||
| Listen, my whole point... | ||
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I'm sorry, go ahead. | |
| My point was, I literally met this girl in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. | ||
| She was from Canada. | ||
| She was a singer over there singing in little military bars or whatever. | ||
| A little hot blonde or whatever she was. | ||
| And... | ||
| I remember talking to her for about a month and I convinced her that I wanted to come visit her. | ||
| But my whole intention was, let me get over there, try to find out what this team is and see if I can try out for them. | ||
| Some crazy shit. | ||
| You don't do that today. | ||
| I did it back then. | ||
| So I went over there. | ||
| I'm laughing because I know people that know me is dying listening to this right now. | ||
| This is a true 100% story. | ||
| I get over there. | ||
| To Malaysia with no money. | ||
| I may have $400. | ||
| I got people to pay for a ticket. | ||
| Yeah, I'm going to Malaysia to play basketball. | ||
| Just lying to people, right? | ||
| So I get over there, this girl. | ||
| I don't want to say her name. | ||
| She might sue me. | ||
| But she picked me up at the airport. | ||
| She looked exactly like her pictures. | ||
| Beautiful from Canada, everything. | ||
| So she take me to her apartment. | ||
| She got this nice apartment. | ||
| It's like in the jungle, Joe. | ||
| I'm talking about the balcony. | ||
| I seen little monkeys on the balcony. | ||
| Yes, it was crazy. | ||
| And then it's like a rainforest, right? | ||
| And then in Malaysia, if you've ever been to Malaysia, I don't know if it's like that now, the doors are high off the ground, like two inches. | ||
| So it's like anything can crawl under the doors or whatever. | ||
| So that's the first thing I noticed when I got to Malaysia. | ||
| I was like, this is some crazy shit, right? | ||
| We're in the jungle. | ||
| Like, what about snakes or bugs? | ||
| I remember asking these little kids when I first got to Malaysia. | ||
| I was like, have you ever seen a snake? | ||
| Like, In this area, they were like, yeah, I seen a cobra and all this stuff. | ||
| And I was just like, holy shit. | ||
| But back to her, she turned out to be a sex addict. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Congratulations. | ||
| Man, listen. | ||
| Yo, this is crazy. | ||
| Because this is way before I ever decided I'm going to do film for a living, right? | ||
| I was over there... | ||
| The first day I got there, I had a good time with her. | ||
| Then I ended up having relations with the lady. | ||
| And she turned out to be a sex addict. | ||
| So as a man, I just flew all the way across the world to see this girl. | ||
| You sleep with her. | ||
| And then all of a sudden, she wanted to do it again and again and again. | ||
| And then when you slow down, I just got here. | ||
| Bro, she started crying and going nuts. | ||
| And in Malaysia, I'm like, I don't know who this girl is. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| Listen. | ||
| She's crying because you won't fuck her again? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| How many times did you fuck her? | ||
| About two times. | ||
| That you wanted to go? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Two long times, too. | ||
| Like, shit. | ||
| Like, it was crazy. | ||
| So, listen, I am in Malaysia. | ||
| I'm not in America. | ||
| I'm in Malaysia. | ||
| So, the crazy thing is, probably after a week, she started to go crazy and complain about, I'm not sleeping with her. | ||
| I'm in my prime, my sexual peak, and you don't want to sleep with me. | ||
| And I'm just thinking to myself, like... | ||
| I don't know, what the fuck am I doing over here in Malaysia with this lady? | ||
| So I ended up meeting this black guy that she introduced me to that was like a hustler in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. | ||
| And I started hanging out with him just to get out of the house. | ||
| You like living with this guy? | ||
| I don't have any money to go home. | ||
| Oh my God. | ||
| So I'm just stuck in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. | ||
| Oh my God, with this beautiful girl that you have to fuck all the time. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| First world problems, right? | ||
| Serious first world problems. | ||
| And then she started getting even bitter, like, I hate Americans. | ||
| You Americans are so ungrateful. | ||
| And I'm just thinking like, damn. | ||
| Wow, you're representing America. | ||
| Yeah, it was crazy. | ||
| I was like, damn, I must have just didn't do it good enough. | ||
| I thought I... Girls be lying then to me. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Maybe she's just extraordinary. | ||
| She was like in her late 30s and I was in my early 20s. | ||
| So... | ||
| Some girls in their late 30s, they hit this itchy peak. | ||
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Man. | |
| They're just like all the time. | ||
| She ended up kicking me out of her house in Malaysia, Joe. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Like, I went out with Bobby one night, this dude. | ||
| His name was Bobby too. | ||
| And... | ||
| I came home and she said, your stuff is outside. | ||
| She texted me. | ||
| I had a little international phone. | ||
| She was like, your stuff is outside. | ||
| I'm thinking like, she was like, yeah, this is not working out. | ||
| So think about that. | ||
| Imagine being in another country and this is not working out. | ||
| No money. | ||
| No money. | ||
| Zero. | ||
| Not a dime. | ||
| And the guy that I was with, I told him what happened. | ||
| He was like, I'm going to take you over there, get your stuff. | ||
| You can stay with me until you figure it out. | ||
| I get there and all my stuff is outside. | ||
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Everything. | |
| She's not there. | ||
| She's done left or whatever. | ||
| And I had some brand new Timberlands. | ||
| Remember the Boots Timberlands? | ||
| Hey, I'm poor. | ||
| Shit, I need them Timberlands. | ||
| They in the house. | ||
| I had them worn brand new. | ||
| So I kicked the door down. | ||
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Boom! | |
| Oh, no. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Like, I was trying to get in the door. | ||
| I just kicked it. | ||
| And it broke. | ||
| Like, the little handle broke. | ||
| I got in and got my Timberlands left. | ||
| I remember she texted me. | ||
| She was like, hey, did you break my door? | ||
| I was like, nah, I don't know what you're talking about. | ||
| I just left. | ||
| So, from there, I stayed with Bobby for like three weeks. | ||
| In Malaysia. | ||
| I was hanging out with him every day going to parties and I'm like, bro, I got to get home to America. | ||
| So I contacted one of my mentors growing up in Australia. | ||
| He was playing professional basketball in Melbourne named Rashad Tucker. | ||
| Shout out to him. | ||
| And I convinced him to get me a ticket to come over to Melbourne because I was like, bro, I need some money to go home. | ||
| And he was like, nah, man, I'll just get you a ticket to come to Melbourne. | ||
| I was like, bro. | ||
| Literally, like, I'm trying to go back to America. | ||
| I don't know what to. | ||
| But then when he sold me on, I was like, damn, I really ain't going back to nothing. | ||
| So let me go. | ||
| He was like, man, you can come over here and try out for the team. | ||
| You can try out practice with us. | ||
| And I was like, oh, that may be my opportunity to play professional basketball. | ||
| He's one of the top players in Australia. | ||
| So I ended up in Melbourne. | ||
| And I was in Melbourne for three months, not doing shit, but going out, practicing with the team. | ||
| It was mid-season, so I couldn't make a team because they was already, you know, they think. | ||
| And then I ended up getting stranded over there, too. | ||
| Because he left me because he cheated on his girlfriend and he had to go make up with her. | ||
| So he left me talking about I'm going to be back. | ||
| And then I was just stuck in Australia like, yo, bro, I need to get back to America. | ||
| No job. | ||
| No job, no money, nothing. | ||
| Oh my God. | ||
| He was like, I'm glad I was young when I did all this stuff. | ||
| He was like, hey man, tell one of them girls a sob story. | ||
| They'll get you a sob story. | ||
| I'm like, a sob story? | ||
| Bro, you have money. | ||
| Buy me a ticket to go home. | ||
| Man, I can't do it right now. | ||
| I'm like, man. | ||
| So I had to tell this girl a sob story. | ||
| Her name was Deanna. | ||
| Deanna Kassar. | ||
| I'm giving her a shout-out because she saved my life. | ||
| She bought me a ticket home. | ||
| She went in her savings and bought me a ticket back from Melbourne to Honolulu to Las Vegas. | ||
| And... | ||
| I didn't know why I chose Las Vegas, but I just chose to go to Las Vegas. | ||
| So you literally had zero money. | ||
| Zero money. | ||
| How were you eating? | ||
| Shit. | ||
| Her. | ||
| People that I was around, right? | ||
| They just fed you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Man, sometimes you have angels in your life. | ||
| And I guess these people were angels because I was just telling Jamie, like I just seen a documentary on homelessness. | ||
| It was like four out of five people in LA County, paycheck to paycheck. | ||
| I think it was like eight, like, or it's four out of five people are like one $400 emergency from being broke. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Or it was like 80% of people live paycheck to paycheck. | ||
| So I always tell people like when I'm inspiring people now, I'm like, bro, I was homeless once because that's essentially homelessness. | ||
| If you ain't got an address, you can't pay bills, you're homeless. | ||
| No matter if you got a roof over your head. | ||
| And I feel like people... | ||
| You see all these beautiful moments that I do now, or what anybody does, and they don't see the story that ultimately led you. | ||
| Like, what ultimately turned to you doing what you're doing now? | ||
| So, after Australia, I went to Vegas. | ||
| I was living with two strippers. | ||
| Yes, I lived with two strippers. | ||
| Congratulations again. | ||
| Yeah, I lived in Vegas with two strippers that worked at the Rhino, the Spearman Rhino. | ||
| I met them on Craigslist. | ||
| For rooms to rent. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| And I had enough money, like $600 to move into a room. | ||
| So I literally moved in with these girls. | ||
| And one day, have you ever been in the Vegas casinos? | ||
| Because this is like the climax. | ||
| You ever seen like the mega bucks slots? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So one day it was Floyd Mayweather versus Oscar De La Hoya. | ||
| So that was the year. | ||
| I was in the Mirage and I seen these two hot black girls. | ||
| And I had like some money in my pocket, honeyed or something. | ||
| So I wanted to sit down next to them. | ||
| So I went over there and sat next to them and was just, you know, trying to shoot the shit. | ||
| And I put a $20 in them slots because, you know, you can get free drinks if you put in a slot. | ||
| So I just hitting it, talking to them, where y'all from? | ||
| Y'all going into a fight? | ||
| Blah, blah, blah. | ||
| And then one of the girls was like... | ||
| Hey, you won. | ||
| I was like, oh, okay. | ||
| You know, you think you ain't winning no slots. | ||
| Guess how much I won? | ||
| How much? | ||
| $9,000. | ||
| Whoa. | ||
| Swear to God. | ||
| $9,000 to somebody broke. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Yes, $9,000. | ||
| When they give you that, do you pay taxes on it later? | ||
| Yeah, I gave him a wrong social security number, though. | ||
| You gave him the wrong social? | ||
| Yeah, I gave him the wrong social. | ||
| Yeah, because they just asked you your name and social candy number. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Maybe you shouldn't have just told everybody that. | ||
|
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I don't know. | |
| They can't prove that I want anything. | ||
| They can't? | ||
| That was like 12 years ago. | ||
| They didn't have records back then? | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| I hope not. | ||
| Nah, me too. | ||
| Ain't nobody gonna watch this. | ||
| Nobody's watching this right now? | ||
| No, no one. | ||
| This is... | ||
| Nobody's gonna watch this. | ||
|
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Nothing. | |
| So after that, I literally lived off that nine grand for about the rest of the summer. | ||
| And I ended up moving to San Diego after that. | ||
| Like, I'm skipping some stuff, but I moved to San Diego. | ||
| And that's when my life changed. | ||
| Because I lived in San Diego and was just partying. | ||
| What brought you to San Diego? | ||
| I met a guy in Vegas during the night of the Floyd Mayweather fight and just partied with him that night. | ||
| And I just got his phone number one time and then I was just, you know, staying in touch with him or whatever. | ||
| And then he was like, I live in San Diego. | ||
| He's in the Navy, Dr. Bill. | ||
| And I literally said, let me come out there one weekend. | ||
| I was like, let me just come out there and kick it with you or whatever, because he was telling me how great San Diego was. | ||
| And I went out there and I didn't leave for four years. | ||
| San Diego's pretty awesome. | ||
| Yeah, I love San Diego. | ||
| But I essentially was doing the same thing I was doing for the past couple years. | ||
| Lost. | ||
| Because you got to understand, like, athletes go through this now. | ||
| Like, I just did. | ||
| I just released an episode with Ron Bader on my channel. | ||
| And I talked to him about that. | ||
| Like, when your sports career is done, a lot of people go to something else. | ||
| They lost and things like that. | ||
| And I was for about four or five years. | ||
| And it wasn't until I lived in San Diego that I figured, I was like, man, I got to really do something with my life. | ||
| I'm literally a failure. | ||
| I have a college degree. | ||
| I graduated from college. | ||
| So it wasn't like, I just didn't want that responsibility of having to do a 9 to 5 or things like that. | ||
| So it wasn't until I lived in San Diego that I literally talked to the guy that I was living with and was like, bro... | ||
| I don't know what I'm gonna do in my life, bro, but I gotta figure something out. | ||
| I was like nearing 30 and I ended up moving to Minneapolis, back to Minneapolis, and I got a job as a teacher, like a teacher's assistant. | ||
| They called it behavior assistant. | ||
| I was like working with kindergarten kids. | ||
|
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Jesus. | |
| Literally. | ||
| Crazy life, right? | ||
|
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What a crazy life. | |
| To end up where I'm at now to be on Joe Rogan, right? | ||
| So it was March 3rd, 2011. It was like negative 20 degrees outside. | ||
| I was living with my guy, my best friend. | ||
| And I went to work that day, and it was freezing outside, and they literally still went to recess that day. | ||
| I'll never forget that. | ||
| They was like, oh, put your coats and gloves on, kids. | ||
| It's time to go to recess. | ||
| And I was like, what do you mean? | ||
| Are we going to the gym or outside? | ||
| They were like, we're going outside. | ||
| I was like, man, these people in Minnesota are crazy. | ||
| Those are hard people, bro. | ||
| That was the last day I ever worked in my life. | ||
| You said, fuck this? | ||
| I can't do it, man. | ||
| You can't be outside in that weather? | ||
| It was just the fact that I was like, what am I doing with my life? | ||
| I'm working with Kenneth. | ||
| Great, rewarding job. | ||
| I'm like, what? | ||
| There's nothing wrong with me. | ||
| I'm physically able to do anything. | ||
| I'm intelligent enough to do anything. | ||
| I'm qualified enough to do anything. | ||
| You're a victim of circumstance. | ||
| Things just kept happening. | ||
| Things kept happening. | ||
| And a lot of it is my fault. | ||
| Because you're just lazy, right? | ||
|
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Right. | |
| So, March 3rd, 2011 is the day I said I'm quitting my job. | ||
| I went back to my apartment with my roommate. | ||
| He was pissed. | ||
| He was like, bro, you always quitting jobs. | ||
| And he was like, bro, what you gonna do? | ||
| I was like, bro, I'm finna figure something out. | ||
| I'm finna buy a camera or do something. | ||
| He was like, yeah, yeah, whatever. | ||
| And we literally was sitting in the kitchen, in this little kitchen on the floor, talking about life. | ||
| Because I would just tell, I literally mentally broke. | ||
| I was like, bro, I'm just jacked. | ||
| Like, I got to figure something out. | ||
| Pell Grant was coming up. | ||
| I was getting my tax returns back, and I had enough to buy a camera. | ||
| And the first camera I ever bought was a Canon T2i. | ||
| It was like $800, and I bought a lens. | ||
| And that was it. | ||
| That was it. | ||
| It changed my life. | ||
| And I literally spent like the next year shooting videos in garages like cars coming up, filming the wheels. | ||
| And I was just really literally honing myself because back then when I had a camera in college, digital cameras weren't even out until 2008, like these little new style cameras. | ||
| So I had to relearn everything. | ||
| And I relearned a lot from YouTube and Vimeo. | ||
| And I was watching. | ||
| I had a creative eye and a mindset. | ||
| So I was just like, I got to get the skill set. | ||
| So I started doing rap videos for $50, $100, free. | ||
| You know, I tell all these kids that message me now, like, bro, I spent two years doing videos for free. | ||
| Just trying to learn how to do this stuff. | ||
| Everybody want to get paid for something. | ||
| And I'm like, you probably don't deserve to get paid yet. | ||
| So I have friends. | ||
| Shout out to Mac Irv, Mr. Organic. | ||
| I was shooting their videos for free and I was just getting better. | ||
| I was getting better and better and better and better. | ||
| And then like three years into it, I shot a music video called Saks Fifth Avenue. | ||
| So you're editing these as well? | ||
| I'm editing them, doing them all. | ||
| What are you editing on? | ||
| At the time, I was editing on Sony Vegas, an old program. | ||
| I remember that. | ||
| It's popular now. | ||
| It's pretty easy to use. | ||
| It was cheap to buy, like $90, so I was able to use that. | ||
| Like the movie studio version. | ||
| You don't get all the little tools, but you got enough. | ||
| And I had this cheap laptop that this girl bought me. | ||
| She lied and told me she was going to buy me a camera and ended up buying me a laptop. | ||
| I was pissed off. | ||
| And I was like... | ||
| She was like, listen... | ||
| The most popular camera back in 2011 was a Canon 5D Mark II. It was like $2,000. | ||
| I couldn't afford that. | ||
| So I met this girl online... | ||
| Literally, from Denver, Colorado, from Denver, Colorado. | ||
| You know, you start your little love affair, whatever, you talking, you promising, and I want to see you. | ||
| So one day she was like, I'm going to come see you in Minnesota. | ||
| This is around the time I started. | ||
| And she told me she was going to buy me that camera because I was telling her that's like my dream camera, my dream camera. | ||
| And I remember my roommate, like I run in his room like, look, bro, look at this short film that was shot with this camera. | ||
| I'm finna have this camera, bro. | ||
| We finna do all types of things. | ||
| So she like kept telling me she had the camera, kept telling me she had the camera. | ||
| So like the day she came, I picked her up. | ||
| I had this little used 1992 Ford Taurus. | ||
| It was blue. | ||
| And I picked her up at the airport. | ||
| I remember I was like, where the camera at? | ||
| As soon as she picked me up or the camera, she was like, don't worry, don't worry, don't worry. | ||
| And I'm like driving thinking like, man, she ain't got this camera. | ||
| She lied to me. | ||
| She just want to see me, right? | ||
| So we get to my apartment. | ||
| My boy, he anticipating it too. | ||
| He's like, man, he finna get this camera. | ||
| We finna shoot all the music videos, right? | ||
| Because if you get this camera at this time, you're shooting with a 5D. So I remember she was like, here's a gift. | ||
| She put out the gift, and I'm like, this ain't no camera box. | ||
| It was a brand new laptop, and I'm sitting there complaining. | ||
| I'm complaining about a laptop, and I already have a camera, but she gave me this laptop, and I was just like, all right, cool. | ||
| So she gave me the laptop, and And I get the Sony Vegas program and then I started editing with that. | ||
| And I had that camera for about two years. | ||
| Where's that girl? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| There's a lot of that in my life. | ||
| And I don't blame them girls. | ||
| Listen, man. | ||
| I used to be one of those guys. | ||
| You know them girls that's materialistic and they're all about nice things and they like to travel. | ||
| You ever date a girl and you see her previous boyfriend and they be like, damn, they done went to Napa Valley and fucking Vegas for her birthday or New York. | ||
| And you're like, damn, I can't even take you to the movies. | ||
| I'm like, damn. | ||
| So for me, if a girl get tired of you, Now they call it ghosting, right? | ||
| They call it ghosting. | ||
| But back then, ghosting, that's what ghosting was. | ||
| It was like, oh, this guy ain't worth nothing. | ||
| Let me get rid of him. | ||
| So she left. | ||
| She left. | ||
| I had a summer job. | ||
| My last ever official job was at 43 Hoops in Minnesota. | ||
| It was a basketball academy where I was there with a lot of pro basketball players or semi-pro or guys that had college experience. | ||
| And we just taught kids all the time. | ||
| And I was getting paid, you know, $20 an hour, $25 an hour per session to teach kids. | ||
| And I kind of made a ruckus there, too, complaining about just, bro, we teaching 20 kids and I'm only getting $20. | ||
| How much are y'all getting for all these kids, right? | ||
| But, I mean, that's just work, right? | ||
| I shouldn't complain about a job. | ||
| But that whole summer, I was just telling everybody in there, I'm going to do film. | ||
| I'm moving back to California. | ||
| I'm about to just do film. | ||
| I'm about to do film. | ||
| Because I had enough. | ||
| I was doing videos at that point, but now I have a part-time job and I'm able to do videos. | ||
| And I'll never forget one day, I was telling a group of guys in there, I'm quitting this job and I'm finna go do filming. | ||
| I just remember the look on their face like, you know, like the boy that cried wolf. | ||
| Whatever, man. | ||
| You ain't gonna do anything. | ||
| But that drove me insane, Joe. | ||
| Doubt. | ||
| Doubt drove me insane. | ||
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People doubting you. | |
| People doubting me. | ||
| That's what I needed. | ||
| I needed that fuel where people could tell me I couldn't do anything. | ||
| You needed haters. | ||
| I needed haters. | ||
| And it drove me insane. | ||
| And I went nuts. | ||
| And I started shooting a lot of music videos that any videographer out there that knows this industry, they know, like music videos feed you. | ||
| You make a lot of money. | ||
| It's a recession-proof business. | ||
| People are always going to need music videos, especially rap videos. | ||
| And I got good. | ||
| I got very good. | ||
| I did a lot of high-profile videos. | ||
| I made a lot of money. | ||
| Who'd you do them for? | ||
| I did music videos for like rappers, like Chief Keef. | ||
| You did it? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| You did his videos? | ||
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I did it. | |
| That seemed like you'd have to wear a bulletproof vest to be around that dude. | ||
| It was a video called Traffic. | ||
| You gotta check that out. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| I think I've seen that. | ||
|
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That's you? | |
| They were wild on the streets. | ||
| Oh, I would imagine. | ||
|
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Wild. | |
| They're legitimately wild. | ||
| Yeah, that was real gangster shit going on with the Chicago rappers and stuff like that. | ||
| Well, that dude is like the king of that shit, right? | ||
|
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| He's only like 20, right? | ||
| I think now he's like 20. Nah, he probably like 23, 24 now. | ||
| Yeah, they was kids, man. | ||
| But I was shooting a lot of music videos in Minneapolis and I got popular because that's a huge music scene. | ||
| It's a very indie, you know, Prince made it popular, but I think the hip hop scene is very enriched there. | ||
| They just don't, they haven't had anybody like explode out of there. | ||
| So I made a living just in Minneapolis, like shoot music videos. | ||
| But after a while, I remember I was dating this girl and this one lasted a bit. | ||
| And I remember I used to brag to her, like, look at this music video, this music video. | ||
| And she was like, you want to just be known for doing music videos? | ||
| You want to be a guy to just do music videos? | ||
| You need to do other stuff. | ||
| And that's what woke me up. | ||
| I was like, let me see if I can tap into my creative side and do other things. | ||
| So I did a film called The Confessions of Skid Row. | ||
| I literally went to Skid Row and filmed Homeless People. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| Is that available? | ||
| Yeah, it's somewhere online. | ||
| Skid Row freaks me out. | ||
| Yeah, it was called The Confessions of Skid Row. | ||
| I was like, I'm going to make this series called The Confessions. | ||
| And then I did The Confessions of Gay Pride. | ||
| And I literally interviewed this guy in San Diego about how When Obama passed Don't Ask, Don't Tell, I interviewed this guy, and he told me how he came out to his parents. | ||
| I know my boys just look at me like, what the hell are you doing? | ||
| These type of films. | ||
| But I was fascinated by documentaries, so I was like, let me just do this type of documentary content. | ||
| Doing the one on Skid Row, did that have an extra impact on you? | ||
| Because you were basically homeless. | ||
| Yeah, 100%. | ||
| I told the guy, I was like, I was literally homeless, so I know what you feel like. | ||
| And I don't think people understand that. | ||
| If I look at my life now, I live in downtown LA, view of the Staples Center, things like that. | ||
| They don't understand. | ||
| Years ago, I couldn't afford to live in a $400 a month apartment. | ||
| You see what I'm saying? | ||
| Because you didn't have any guaranteed income. | ||
| And that's how it was even in the beginning of my film career. | ||
| I lived out at, you know them shitty hotels? | ||
| Well, they're not shitty to everybody, but extended stays. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I lived in Extended States for like two years. | ||
| Literally, like, say I was getting $400 for a music video from a rapper or something like that. | ||
| I would use $200 of that for six days in Extended States because, you know, that was like $30 a night. | ||
| It'd be nights where I'm like, damn, I got one day left. | ||
| I got to convince somebody to give me like $200 and shoot a music video. | ||
| So I was hustling. | ||
| Like reaching out to people on Facebook. | ||
| Hey man, you trying to shoot a music video? | ||
| They not knowing I need this money to just live somewhere. | ||
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Wow. | |
| So once I was able to sustain enough income, because it's just too long of a story, but I was able to really get myself to a point where I was making some money. | ||
| I moved to Florida when my best friend Tone from Macedonia, 6'9", Macedonian mercenary. | ||
| That's what he wanted to be. | ||
| He a crazy guy. | ||
| He wants to go around the world and kill drug dealers. | ||
| That's literally, he's from Macedonia, man. | ||
| They're crazy, man. | ||
| They're crazy. | ||
| So, Brother Tone, I moved in with him in Boca Raton. | ||
| And that's literally how it started. | ||
| That's how all of this Anatomy Male Fighters stuff started. | ||
| I moved to Florida, lived with him. | ||
| I had a roommate. | ||
| So, it was cheaper to live. | ||
| I went to Italy that year and shot a documentary. | ||
| So, I got some money from my guy, Bobby Jones. | ||
| And I was able to have a life. | ||
| I felt comfortable. | ||
| I wasn't like, felt like a monkey was on my back at that point. | ||
| So you're getting momentum. | ||
| I got momentum. | ||
| I had a lot of momentum at that point. | ||
| About 2014, I was making money. | ||
| So when you were doing these documentaries, like Confessions of Skid Row and Confessions of Gay Pride, what are you doing with them and how are you getting paid from them? | ||
| Just releasing them online for free. | ||
| Really? | ||
| I didn't get paid for anything. | ||
| I paid the homeless guy to let me talk to him. | ||
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Did you put him on YouTube? | |
| They gotta be on Vimeo. | ||
| Why don't you put them on YouTube and get the ad revenue for them? | ||
| Yeah, that was back in the day, though. | ||
| But are they out there right now? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| No, I have a great one. | ||
| You know Alan Watts? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So it's called The Beauty of Nothingness by Alan Watts. | ||
| If you put The Beauty of Nothingness by Alan Watts and Will Harris, you'll see one of the most beautiful homeless films you've ever seen. | ||
| That was like three years ago. | ||
| I went to New York. | ||
| I was here in L.A. I was in Florida. | ||
| I was just sitting on the streets with homeless people talking to him. | ||
| For two days. | ||
| And is it Alan Watts' narration? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| It's the beauty of nothingness. | ||
| It like won an award in New York. | ||
| Well, when I first saw, I don't remember what video I saw of yours that was first, but I was like, this guy's got an eye for shit. | ||
| It's not the stand. | ||
| You know, sometimes you can see videos and you're just watching a video. | ||
| Like, okay, this is cool. | ||
| I'm seeing how these guys are training. | ||
| I'm seeing their lifestyles. | ||
| I'm seeing their family. | ||
| But then you see one and you go, oh, whoever the fuck is filming this, they know what they're doing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's what I got from you. | ||
| Well, it's because look at all the shit I've been through. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's also your focus. | ||
| You have a vision. | ||
| It's very clear that you're an artist. | ||
| When you're doing these videos, it's not simply you're filming things. | ||
| You're thinking about the angles, how to edit it, how to have people talking. | ||
| You hear their voice while their mouth's not moving because they're talking from another... | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Yeah, the narration. | ||
| Yeah, when you see things where someone puts it together, it makes it richer. | ||
| It makes it more interesting. | ||
| Did you ever hear of a documentary called Hoop Dreams? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| That was my high school life. | ||
| They were older than me, but when I was in high school, that film came out. | ||
| That fascinated me. | ||
| The documentary itself. | ||
| Documenting somebody for five years, following their life. | ||
| I was obsessed. | ||
| My favorite documentary of all time is Pumpin' Iron. | ||
| Oh, of course. | ||
| So when I saw that in college, I was like, I want to shoot documentaries. | ||
| So I was always obsessed with documentaries. | ||
| Like, I don't know if you remember Banging in Little Rock? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| That was on HBO, right? | ||
| Yeah, Banging in Little Rock. | ||
| That's what I like. | ||
| I don't like movies. | ||
| I like documentaries. | ||
| Me too, man. | ||
| So for me, I've always was obsessed with docs. | ||
| I'm like, if I can ever shoot a doc, I know where that passion comes from. | ||
| So when I literally moved to Florida, I literally just reached out to Shannon Briggs one day. | ||
| I was doing weddings and music videos, so I was making money. | ||
| Especially with weddings. | ||
| I was making a lot of money with weddings. | ||
| People get married every weekend. | ||
| If you get good enough, you can get $3,000- $4,000 a wedding video. | ||
| I'm booking two a week. | ||
| I started to get to a point where Let's go champ! | ||
| Yeah, that's the one. | ||
| I love him. | ||
| That's the one. | ||
| So that was three years ago. | ||
| Did you ever see the podcast I did with him? | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| It was called Portrait of a Boxing Gym. | ||
| Ah, nice. | ||
| He's a fucking character. | ||
| Who was the guy Deontay Wilder knocked out? | ||
| Bermaine Sturvain? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Stiverne? | ||
| Stiverne? | ||
| Yeah, I remember he was in there that day. | ||
| So I used to do stuff like this before I ever decided to do Anatomy of a Fighter. | ||
| When you say who Deontay Wilder knocked out, you've got to say everybody fought. | ||
| Yeah, that's true. | ||
| 40 knockouts, 41 opponents. | ||
| He's the craziest fucking record in the history of boxing. | ||
| He knocked out Tyson Fury, too. | ||
| Well, basically. | ||
| 10 seconds. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's my dream. | ||
| Listen, if you ask me who my dream guest is on Anatomy of a Fighter. | ||
| Deontay? | ||
| One, I would love to do a behind-the-scenes fight companion with you guys. | ||
| Just be in here with the camera, filming y'all motherfuckers talking. | ||
| But that's what the fight companion is. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| But out in the hallways. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Because Eddie Bravo will bring up some crazy conspiracies. | ||
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Well, hopefully I'll be rolling our eyes to try to get away from it. | |
| Hopefully I get Eddie Bravo on the day with Cheeto Vare. | ||
| Yeah, you'll get him on. | ||
| Well, Cheeto's fight is canceled, right? | ||
| I know. | ||
| Are they trying to give him a replacement opponent? | ||
| Shout out to Cheeto Vera. | ||
| He loves your show, by the way. | ||
| I love him. | ||
| He's a tough motherfucker. | ||
| He is. | ||
| I love Sean O'Malley, too. | ||
| It was unfortunate. | ||
| I love Sugar Sean. | ||
| I love both of them. | ||
| I love how he's taking it, too. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, he's taking it because, you know, I've seen a lot of people online talking about, you know, are they going to move the car to Interheim now? | ||
| It's like, no. | ||
| They ain't doing that for Shake and Shine. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| He got a tainted supplement. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| These new studies or these new tests that they have, they are so fucking extensive. | ||
| They catch shit that you did years ago. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| And if you took a tainted supplement with something that has zero performance benefit years ago, it can still show up in your system. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Whereas they used to have, like, oh, it'll be out of your system in six weeks. | ||
| Like, especially talk to, like, a gym professor. | ||
| Like, there's a lot, look, there's a lot of cheating in professional sports. | ||
| There's a lot of cheating, for sure. | ||
| Is it? | ||
| A lot of cheating in MMA. A lot. | ||
| But less than there used to be because of USADA and Nowitzki and what the UFC has implemented. | ||
| 100% there's a lot less. | ||
| But... | ||
| Supplements are a dirty business. | ||
| I know this firsthand from Onnit, from being one of the owners of Onnit. | ||
| And not even supplements tainted with things that are illegal. | ||
| When we first started making AlphaBrain, we had it independently tested. | ||
| We got all our shit third-party tested. | ||
| And we were like, what the fuck is this doing in there? | ||
| We had stuff in there that's not supposed to be in there. | ||
| Well, it turns out when you get stuff made, like say if you have a... | ||
| You put together some sort of a pre-workout drink, and you want to have vitamin B12 and all these different things in it. | ||
| You get those mixed by a third-party lab. | ||
| This lab mixes it all for you. | ||
| But you don't know what the fuck they're doing. | ||
| They're not cleaning out their vats. | ||
| They're not cleaning out their shit. | ||
| So they might have been doing steroids right before they do your shit, and you're having to mix you up some creatine, and your creatine has Osterine in it. | ||
| Yeah, what is that? | ||
| Some kind of steroid. | ||
| I don't know what it is. | ||
| It's some kind of steroid. | ||
| I was talking to the bodybuilder, Mike Rashid, about supplements because, you know, obviously he's a bodybuilder. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He has a company. | ||
| I think he works with Trifecta, too, or something like that. | ||
| And I was just like, how does that happen, like these tainted supplements? | ||
| And I interviewed him about it. | ||
| I'm going to release it one day, how he goes into it. | ||
| But, you know, with bodybuilders, they catch flack because they're bodybuilders. | ||
| You gotta be on something. | ||
| But these guys know their shit. | ||
| He has a legitimate business, so... | ||
| I'm sure he does, but most of them are on something. | ||
| Like, if you want to get to the size of, like, a Lee Haney, you don't get that big without steroids. | ||
| It's not a human size. | ||
| You know, when you get to, like... | ||
| You know, just go back and look at, like, Franco Columbo. | ||
| Oh, man, my favorite. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| But then you look at, like, Frank Zane. | ||
| Frank Zane, you can get that body without steroids. | ||
| That's possible. | ||
| What about... | ||
| What about Francis? | ||
| Francis Ngannou? | ||
| If he started to be a bodybuilder... | ||
| Oh my god, he'd be gigantic. | ||
| There's freaks. | ||
| Kamal Uzman is a freak. | ||
| Tyron Woodley's a freak. | ||
| Brock Lesnar's a freak. | ||
| There's freaks. | ||
| Look, there's girls with giant tits. | ||
| They're born with triple F tits. | ||
| This is how it works. | ||
| Some guys have 20-inch dicks. | ||
| This is just how the world works. | ||
| Some people have big noses. | ||
| The world's weird. | ||
| I wouldn't want to have a 20-inch dick, though. | ||
| No, it's too big. | ||
| Imagine saying that. | ||
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I know. | |
| It's too big. | ||
| Like, you brag about it. | ||
| But you can't complain, though. | ||
| You can't complain. | ||
| Eight or nine is good, though, right? | ||
| But you know how many dudes are crying out there with a three-inch dick? | ||
| They'll be like, oh, 17 more inches. | ||
| Yeah, that's crazy. | ||
| You're better off having a 20-inch dick than a 3-inch dick. | ||
| Because you just find a girl who's had like eight kids and just wreck her. | ||
| It'd be weird. | ||
| Listen, you want to know another funny online story in my life? | ||
| These was all in the past. | ||
| But I remember dating this older lady and she was like, I'm a freak, I'm a freak, I'm a freak. | ||
| And I was like, how much of a freak she is. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Like she went in her drawer and pulled out like a dildo that was like 20 inches. | ||
| I was just like, like a horse cock. | ||
| And I was just like, what the fuck am I gonna do with this? | ||
| I did everything in my powder. | ||
| She didn't feel shit. | ||
| I got mons, though, Joe. | ||
| I believe you. | ||
| I believe you. | ||
| Hey, there's some weirdos out there, man. | ||
| We all weird in a way. | ||
| Yes, everyone's weird. | ||
| Everyone's weird. | ||
| Listen, vegans are weird. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| People that say they don't drink are weird. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| People that only eat... | ||
| Nuts and berries are weird. | ||
| We all weird in a way. | ||
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Atheists are weird. | |
| Christians are weird. | ||
| You can't judge nobody. | ||
| I'll be like, oh, I never smoked a weed in my life. | ||
| But then I'll be online dating. | ||
| That's some weird old shit. | ||
| You've never smoked weed ever? | ||
| Never. | ||
| Not one time. | ||
| How come? | ||
| Drink a little bit. | ||
| Maybe five times a year. | ||
| How come you never smoked weed? | ||
| I had an addictive family. | ||
| I seen it and it was embarrassing and struggling. | ||
| My mom was 14 years old when she gave birth to me. | ||
| My mom was born the same month I am. | ||
| She was born May 3rd. | ||
| I was born May 19th. | ||
| She could have had me at 13. My dad was the same age. | ||
| I didn't grow up with any parents. | ||
| Your parents hate hearing that, but I don't know my dad at all. | ||
| I don't know mine either. | ||
| I may have talked to him twice. | ||
| You know the last conversation I ever had with my dad? | ||
| He had got out of prison and I was living with his mom, my grandmother, the one that raised me. | ||
| And he like overtook the room that I was living in because it's his room again. | ||
| Like a grown ass man telling his son. | ||
| And I found his porn tapes. | ||
| Me and my best friend, I knew. | ||
| I was like, yo, you want to watch some porn? | ||
| So I went up in the closet, took out the tape, put it in. | ||
| And then I heard him coming in the house, so we ran and put the tape back. | ||
| And this is how precise he was with his porn, probably. | ||
| He noticed some clothes moves, so we left the house. | ||
| He came out the house. | ||
| Hey, stay out of my room. | ||
| I said, man, shut up. | ||
| You're a grown man watching porn. | ||
| It was my dad. | ||
| That's like the last conversation I ever had with him. | ||
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Wow. | |
| He's been in prison in and out of his life. | ||
| That's the thing. | ||
| It's like, Listen, man. | ||
| Everybody can make a picture out to be poor me. | ||
| That's not me. | ||
| Me telling you all this stuff ain't poor me. | ||
| It's just real. | ||
| It's just life. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Where I'm at now is beautiful. | ||
| I was filming videos to survive, and then I finally found something that stuck. | ||
| I never in my fucking life thought it was going to be MMA. Never. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Never. | ||
| So you saw people with addiction problems and you just didn't want to have anything to do with anything? | ||
| Nah, I just thought it was... | ||
| Luckily for me, man, I found sports in the fifth grade and I just was... | ||
| I have an addictive personality, whether it's masturbation or anything, right? | ||
| I have a very similar situation. | ||
| You know what's crazy? | ||
| What's fascinating about this podcast is that if you go to your channel on YouTube and you click Otis videos, that's why I'm not in a rush for anything because everything takes time. | ||
| I looked at one of your podcasts with Eddie Bravo, like three hours long, you got like 11,000 views. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, like 20,000 views. | ||
| People always want to say, like, hey, how do I get paid for podcasts? | ||
| I'm like, do them for six years. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I didn't get paid at all for a year. | ||
| I mean, this podcast is almost 10 years old, and I didn't really start getting paid like five years ago. | ||
| And it's fascinating to see that. | ||
| Like, you go look at your oldest videos, 20,000, 30,000 views. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that's the thing, like, MMA fans are fickle, right? | ||
| They like who they like, they don't like, they like. | ||
| It's only about three or four fighters that can get a lot of views on YouTube. | ||
| It's that way with everything. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| Comedy, it's that way with... | ||
| Yeah, and people are fascinated. | ||
| Like, I'm lucky enough to know Khabib, right? | ||
| Or somebody like that. | ||
| Like, I didn't know who this guy was until Rashad Evans was like, yo, let me introduce you to my guy, Ali. | ||
| And then I met Ali filming some Henzo Gracie stuff for him. | ||
| And he was like, yo, I like you, man. | ||
| Let me put you together with my fighter. | ||
| You know who Khabib is? | ||
| I was like, is that the guy that fought Michael Johnson? | ||
| I didn't know who Khabib was. | ||
| He was like, I think y'all would be a good fit because the way you do stories and stuff like that, I think he'll like you and you'll like him. | ||
| And I literally met him of January of last year. | ||
| 2018 in Boston when Francis was fighting Stipe and Volkan was fighting DC and that was the first time I ever met Khabib and the rest is history. | ||
| I filmed him up there. | ||
| He was finna fight Tony. | ||
| Then I filmed him doing the whole Conor fiasco a la Quinta. | ||
| Then I went to Dagestan. | ||
| I went to Dagestan. | ||
| What's that like? | ||
| Intense. | ||
| But it was beautiful because people tried to scare me when I was supposed to go to Dagestan. | ||
| Who? | ||
| Like, I got people in the UFC that was like, yo, be careful over there. | ||
| People that work for the UFC? Yeah, just saying, like, be careful. | ||
| And I'm thinking to myself, like, in my DMs on Instagram, like, bro, just be careful. | ||
| They don't fucking play over there. | ||
| I went doing Ramadan last June, at the end of Ramadan. | ||
| Did you have to observe while you were there? | ||
| So, uh, Khabib wanted me to come during like the last tail end of Ramadan, right? | ||
| So I went over there, um, by myself, went and got my visa in Miami and went over there, just got my ticket and, um, I went over there. | ||
| I remember the first day I got there, I was in customs for like two hours because they couldn't speak English at this little airport in Dagestan. | ||
| And Khabib was outside and he wouldn't come in the airport because he's too famous, right? | ||
| And this is in the middle of the night. | ||
| And I remember when I first got there, it was just checkpoints everywhere when I got there. | ||
| We like drive down the street, person with some guns. | ||
| I'm like, all right, cool. | ||
| I don't know where we at, but this is Dagestan. | ||
| And I ended up getting to this, I stayed at his uncle house, I think. | ||
| And from there, it was just a beautiful moment. | ||
| The Dagestan Chronicles is my most popular thing on my channel, obviously, because it's showing Khabib in a way no one's ever seen him. | ||
| I observed Ramadan the whole time I was there. | ||
| I didn't eat. | ||
| I didn't drink. | ||
| I did exactly what Kabinim did because I think a problem with us a lot as Americans is we take our culture somewhere else. | ||
| And I wanted to observe their culture and really see what it was like. | ||
| And I was fascinated. | ||
| I wanted to know why women covered themselves. | ||
| And I asked all of those questions. | ||
| All of that stuff is in the documentary. | ||
| And now I get all these millions of people watching these videos. | ||
| The most common thing is, like, where's the women at? | ||
| And I'm like, why are these people so obsessed with where the women at? | ||
| And I literally went into that. | ||
| Like, I asked, like, when these women are married, you don't point a camera at these people. | ||
| Like, I've seen women. | ||
| You just don't point a camera at them. | ||
| It's rude, right? | ||
| And that's like... | ||
| In their culture. | ||
| In their culture. | ||
| Did they explain this to you? | ||
| Yeah, they did. | ||
| What did they say? | ||
| They literally just said, they look at their... | ||
| Like, I talked to a couple people over there, and they were just like, we look at our women as queens. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And we cover them. | ||
| Because in the Quran, the man is weak to the flesh. | ||
| So they don't want their woman to be... | ||
| You know, looked at by other men. | ||
| Yeah, that's the word I was looking for. | ||
| So you just cover themselves up. | ||
| And in our culture, that's, you know, that may be weird, but I respect it. | ||
| Like what they told me, it made sense. | ||
| It literally made sense where it was just like, listen, we don't let another man look at our wife, right? | ||
| I'm not going to bash on that culture because I feel like that's silly. | ||
| A woman can do whatever they want to do. | ||
| That's just how they feel. | ||
| Like I don't But I've seen women. | ||
| I've seen some beautiful women too when I was in Dagestan. | ||
| It wasn't the fact that I didn't film any women. | ||
| I've seen women. | ||
| But they explained to you when you go here you cannot film the women. | ||
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No, no, no. | |
| It was just, yeah, in a way. | ||
| Just don't film another man's woman. | ||
| I think I talked to Chris Wyman once when I was at his gym when I was doing Ala Quinta. | ||
| He went to Chechnya. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And he told me a story. | ||
| I think him and Vordun went to Chechnya and he was telling me a story of like he accidentally touched a woman's hand and they like literally got on like you don't touch another woman. | ||
| You don't touch a woman's hand over here because that's bad on her. | ||
| Right? | ||
| And I was like, damn, that's crazy. | ||
| You can't even... | ||
| Because he said he was just like reaching out, shaking people's hands. | ||
| You know, human instinct, you reach and grab somebody's hand. | ||
| And he just said, man, that's a different culture over there. | ||
| A woman can't touch another man's hand. | ||
| Yeah, that guy from Chechnya, the leader of Chechnya, he's like really into MMA, right? | ||
| He flies as much people out. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know what's crazy is that I don't know anything about the guy or his politics or anything, but I know that... | ||
| He obsessed with fighting, right? | ||
| I know Talon Spong been over there and Wyman and all these guys. | ||
| I just met Nick DeToof the other day. | ||
| And they went over there to Chechnya, him and the Mendez brothers. | ||
| Did they teach jiu-jitsu? | ||
| Yeah, I think the Mendez brothers had like a seminar. | ||
| I did like a preview of Chito Vera and he was talking about it in there. | ||
| Like they did a jiu-jitsu match in front of some oligarch over there. | ||
| Like it's crazy, right? | ||
| Like they flew him over there for that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, he's got a lot of money. | ||
| Yeah? | ||
| Hey, I'm not even fighting these sponsors. | ||
| Didn't he give Khabib like some crazy Mercedes when he won? | ||
| I think I saw that on Instagram. | ||
| He got like a gift. | ||
| I think he gave him some crazy S-Class. | ||
| Khabib getting that Dubai money now, though. | ||
| He's always in Dubai. | ||
| Is he? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I mean, since his fight, he's been in Dubai how many times? | ||
| What's he doing over there? | ||
| Speaking, things like that. | ||
| I mean, when you're one of the most famous, I think he's like top 15 in the most famous athletes now. | ||
| Well, for sure. | ||
| And definitely the most famous Muslim athlete. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And the only UFC champion that's undefeated other than Jon Jones, who should be undefeated if not for that one fucked up disqualification. | ||
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| After spending time with Khabib in Dagestan, like meeting his father, going into the mountains and things like that, I just don't see nobody beating him. | ||
| I'm sorry what you throw at him. | ||
| In what way? | ||
| I just feel like just his pedigree of where he's from, it's nothing that's going to break that guy. | ||
| What are you going to do? | ||
| I just don't think it's nothing you can do. | ||
| After going to Dagestan and seeing how those people live and how their code and their values of how they live. | ||
| What was so convincing? | ||
| Well, just how strict the faith is over there, right? | ||
| And they tie in everything they do to their faith. | ||
| It's sort of like how Ali was. | ||
| Like, I'm not going to lose because of Allah and things like that. | ||
| And I truly believe, after seeing, like, just the camaraderie over there, the gyms they train in, the mountains, everything that makes this guy, it's nothing in an octagon that someone is going to do. | ||
| Like, that's going to beat Khabib. | ||
| Like, everything can happen. | ||
| A fluke can happen. | ||
| We see it all the time. | ||
| But I just feel like mentally, there's nothing that's going to break Khabib. | ||
| Like, I feel like if he was ever in a situation where he had to tap, he wouldn't. | ||
| He would just have to put him to sleep because I just don't think that's possible to beat him. | ||
| I honestly feel like Khabib can't lose. | ||
| I just don't see nobody beating him. | ||
| I've been in locker rooms of fighters and you got a butterfly feeling and things like that. | ||
| When he fought Conor and I was in a locker room, Khabib was FaceTiming his people in Dagestan laughing and Javier Mendes is like, let's get focused. | ||
| Let's get focused. | ||
| Let's get focused. | ||
| Khabib is not caring. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Khabib just ready to go, right? | ||
| When Tony Ferguson was fighting Pettis, he like hitting mitts with Javier and Khabib just looking up to the screen. | ||
| Javier was like, let's get focused. | ||
| Let's get focused. | ||
| Khabib don't care, man. | ||
| It's a different level. | ||
| He always said that's like his favorite thing. | ||
| This is a different level. | ||
| That's what I love about him, man. | ||
| It's like, people are obsessed with the fighter. | ||
| I like Khabib as a person. | ||
| And that's the thing that I get out of this anatomy of a fighter. | ||
| It's like, just hanging out with this guy. | ||
| But like, if you ever watch my series, I never really talk about a guy's fight coming up. | ||
| Like, if you ever watch Anatomy Fighter, it's not about your opponent. | ||
| It's just about your life. | ||
| Because I felt like, when I created it, I felt like, These organizations weren't promoting fighters all the way. | ||
| Yeah, they're going to promote the top fighters and things like that, but what about the guys that are 2-1 in the UFC, not ranked? | ||
| They in the UFC, they may get cut after a couple fights. | ||
| What do they have left after that? | ||
| And I was just like... | ||
| Let me create this series instead of a documentary and just continue to build this and follow these guys' lives. | ||
| And that's all I really wanted to do. | ||
| It was no hidden incentive where I was like, I'm going to make millions of dollars off this. | ||
| I'm going to end up on a Joe Rogan podcast. | ||
| It was like, I love following these fighters and telling their stories because it's sort of like similar to my journey. | ||
| You know, these guys are... | ||
| What was the guy that just fought? | ||
| Deron Wynn in Greenville. | ||
| Eric Spicy or Spicely or whatever his name was. | ||
| He tweeted like, oh, I had, he just got, they got fighting tonight. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He was like, I had minus 270 in my bank account. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I've been there, Joe. | ||
| So that's why I get the passion out of doing it, because I've been there with these fighters. | ||
| At this point in my life, I've paid for fighters' flights and hotels because they couldn't get a hotel. | ||
| Like, these fighters know that. | ||
| Some of these fighters know that, to where I'm able to help them. | ||
| And I'm funding this all on my own, breaking myself. | ||
| So to me, I'm just thinking on myself, like... | ||
| You're doing this for a specific reason. | ||
| You're passionate about it and you want to tell these guys lives. | ||
| And I just really wanted to offer another glimpse into fighters' lives other than Fight Week. | ||
| And are you getting paid from the YouTube revenue? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| My account is monetized and verified. | ||
| And depending on a month, it can be a good month or it can be a bad month. | ||
| It's surprising to me I haven't got a sponsor yet. | ||
| Like, as popular as the channel is. | ||
| But... | ||
| It is what it is. | ||
| You can get one now. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| I mean, shout out to people like 8 Man Strong. | ||
| And that's Ryan Bader's company. | ||
| Yeah, that's Ryan Bader. | ||
| Shout out to Adam, the owner of it, and his brother. | ||
| They was the first people to ever send me stuff. | ||
| Like t-shirts. | ||
| I was just happy. | ||
| I was like, damn, I got some free gear, right? | ||
| Like, man, finally, I remember seeing their shirts back when I first started with Kamal Uzman was wearing their stuff. | ||
| And, you know, companies like that, you get money here and there from them. | ||
| But, like, to sustain this, like, remember Fightland? | ||
| Remember the show Fightland? | ||
| I heard they went out of business because of funding. | ||
| Wasn't it Vice? | ||
| Yeah, something like that. | ||
| Wasn't it Vice Company? | ||
| I doubt they went out of business because of funding. | ||
| Vice probably just decided to stop doing it. | ||
| Listen, Joe... | ||
| Was, right? | ||
| You travel... | ||
| But Vice is a billion dollar company. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| What were they? | ||
| I believe Fightland is a Vice show. | ||
| Wasn't it? | ||
| Well, let's find out. | ||
| Yeah, find out. | ||
| I'm pretty sure Fightland was Vice. | ||
| If you flew to Phoenix for three days to do comedy and get a hotel, you know how expensive a flight is. | ||
| So imagine me finding this on my own if I want to go somewhere for three days. | ||
| Well, especially Dagestan. | ||
| Yeah, shit like that. | ||
| And where are you staying when you're in Dagestan? | ||
| I was staying at Khabib's family house. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So I stayed. | ||
| They put me like above a store. | ||
| And he told me, he gave me a key. | ||
| He was like, brother, lock this door at night, brother. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| He was like, don't go outside. | ||
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Oh my God. | |
| I still went outside. | ||
| Did you? | ||
| Yeah, I still went outside. | ||
| Where'd you go? | ||
| I just was roaming, like walking around, just filming stuff. | ||
| What's it like out in Dagestan when you're roaming the streets? | ||
| Well, they never really seen black people over there. | ||
| So I was like a little celebrity over there. | ||
| And you're a big one. | ||
| And they know I'm with Khabib, so I was cool with that. | ||
| Oh, so they knew that? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So they were all friendly with you? | ||
| Yeah, they was chilling. | ||
| Did they speak English? | ||
| A couple people did. | ||
| A couple people did. | ||
| Did they ask you questions? | ||
| Yeah, they asked me questions. | ||
| Obviously, I had already been with Khabib at that time. | ||
| That was past the Conor McGregor fiasco, so my channel get popular because it's something like that. | ||
| They just watch anything Khabib-related. | ||
| Khabib got some crazy fans, man. | ||
| And how many people live in Dagestown? | ||
| Man, I don't know. | ||
| Jamie, pull that up. | ||
| You always want to say that? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I saw some of the videos of people celebrating when he won. | ||
| It was fucking crazy, man. | ||
| The streets, they're honking their horns. | ||
| When he won the title or when he beat Connor? | ||
| When he beat Connor. | ||
| Yeah, that was crazy. | ||
| 2.9 million. | ||
| Yeah, okay, cool. | ||
| So it's a city, but it's essentially like nestled in the mountains? | ||
| Yeah, it's big. | ||
| The mountains are like right next to it or something? | ||
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Yep. | |
| Like sort of like Denver? | ||
| Well, when we went to his mountain village, we had to drive like two hours to get there. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like we had to go on the borders of Chesney. | ||
| I had to get another visa. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| Like just to get through that checkpoint. | ||
| I'll never forget. | ||
| Like we got to the checkpoint and we had to all give them our stuff. | ||
| And then Khabib was like, get out. | ||
| And the dude was like, get out. | ||
| The army guy with his gun. | ||
| And then I get out and I come around the car and Khabib is like, get your camera, brother. | ||
| Right? | ||
| And then he was like, they want to take a picture with you with the camera. | ||
| I was like, oh, thank God. | ||
| What the hell y'all about to do? | ||
| I caught like a bad case of diarrhea while I was over there because I was eating nothing but meat. | ||
| I was trying to do keto while I was over there. | ||
| And listen, the toilets are just a hole in the ground. | ||
| Do you have to squat? | ||
| Yeah, you got to squat and pull a string or whatever. | ||
| Oh, Jesus. | ||
| So I remember we was driving from his village. | ||
| That was my last night there. | ||
| And I was always destroyed. | ||
| I was like, and we got two hours. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| And we stopped a couple times to eat and pray and all that stuff. | ||
| And I remember I was suffering and Khabib filming me with his phone laughing. | ||
| Look at his brother. | ||
| Look at his brother. | ||
| He's about to shit himself. | ||
| And I remember getting back to the place where I was standing in Dagestan. | ||
| Oh my God. | ||
| I probably lost like eight pounds. | ||
| It was crazy, man. | ||
| It was a crazy experience, man. | ||
| It was a crazy experience in Dagestan. | ||
| That's life changing. | ||
| It changed my life. | ||
| How long were you there for? | ||
| Nine days. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| It changed my life. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, because when you in this type of industry, everybody materialistic, we all want nice things. | ||
| We want to live in nice places, want to drive nice cars. | ||
| I do. | ||
| Most people do want to live nice and comfortable. | ||
| And I saw just how happy these people was just living their lives. | ||
| Like I went to his village. | ||
| I went to his mountain village and I was in the city and I saw these people were just happy. | ||
| And maybe on on the outside, they was happy and maybe they was dealing with other things that we don't know about. | ||
| But I saw... | ||
| I had a newfound respect And for just the simpleness | ||
| of that. | ||
| Like Khabib, I thought honestly Khabib was going to retire after he fought Conor. | ||
| Because I talked to him a little bit about that. | ||
| Because he don't want much. | ||
| What did he say after the Conor fight? | ||
| No, no. | ||
| Before the Conor fight. | ||
| Before? | ||
| Yeah, he was just like, what do you think about me retiring after the Conor fight? | ||
| I was like, man, you do what you want to do. | ||
| I can't tell you. | ||
| He was like, I mean, I'm going to have money. | ||
| What else do I need to do, right? | ||
| Because he obviously knew that was going to be the biggest thing. | ||
| The biggest fight ever. | ||
| How much did he make for that fight? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Well, remember they took his check, right? | ||
| But obviously he got a lot of money for that. | ||
| Yeah, they gave him a small... | ||
| I think Conor had a $4 million check. | ||
| And then Khabib had a $2 million check. | ||
| And then obviously they had the pay-per-view points. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So I was like, damn, where's my money at? | ||
| I promoted the thing. | ||
| You should have definitely gotten paid for that video. | ||
| Listen, you know what's funny is that somebody asked me, it was like, if you got anything out of this whole thing, what would you want? | ||
| I'd be like, a camera. | ||
| Let's get a new camera so I can shoot some movies or something, right? | ||
| That's literally the low expectations I had out of making the series, right? | ||
| Especially when it was a documentary, I was just like, man, maybe I make this documentary, put it on Netflix or Amazon for free about fighters. | ||
| And now looking back on it, the stuff that I have captured on them hard drives, I can sell a documentary for millions of dollars, I think. | ||
| I got amazing footage. | ||
| I got the whole Connor thing. | ||
| That tape is like 20 minutes. | ||
| Nobody's ever seen it. | ||
| I have it. | ||
| No one's really seen the whole thing. | ||
| Like, I got Conor when he first ran down the tunnel, like, because I seen him from a distance. | ||
| I wonder if the UFC would be against you putting that on or pro you putting that out? | ||
| Because... | ||
| Well, I put it out on my channel, a snippet, and then at the end of it, when it happened, I was like, watch the full episode on Embedded, right? | ||
| I gave them their just due. | ||
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Right. | |
| And then they literally told me, like, oh, we'll give you credit. | ||
| I never got credit. | ||
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Ugh. | |
| I was just hoping they put... | ||
| Shout out to Will Anatomy of a Fighter for helping us get this footage. | ||
| I never got that. | ||
| They should've. | ||
| Either way, you're getting it now. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, here we are, man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, like, going from the first day I walked in that gym and seeing Kamal Uzman to... | ||
| Filming him for two years all the way to the title. | ||
| I used to post videos of Kamaru Uzman on the channel. | ||
| He'd get 4,000 views. | ||
| And people were like, why are you posting this bum? | ||
| I'm thinking to myself, these fans are crazy. | ||
| You can't pay attention to that. | ||
| Those are just... | ||
| It's hard, Joe. | ||
| Those aren't even the fans. | ||
| It's hard. | ||
| It's trolls. | ||
| It's a tiny amount of losers. | ||
| Yeah, it's crazy. | ||
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That's all it is. | |
| Because I love the MMA fans. | ||
| We were talking about that the last time you were here. | ||
| We were talking about the comments. | ||
| You can't read it. | ||
| You can't. | ||
| It'll drive you fucking crazy. | ||
| Because the people that want to comment, that want to fuck with you, it's the smallest number, the loudest, the most vocal, and they have the shittiest lives. | ||
| No one with a good life wants to do that. | ||
| No one who's happy and healthy wants to fuck with you and say nasty shit. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| When you put your time and effort into something like, say for example, I flew to Phoenix, filmed Shine, and filmed Bader, and then you... | ||
| Spend all these hours, 10 hours editing something and then you put it on and then somebody's like, that dude sucks. | ||
| It's like, damn man, are you appreciating what I'm doing or are you just trolling? | ||
| You're talking to morons. | ||
| You're reading the thoughts of morons. | ||
| You're reading the thoughts of limited minds. | ||
| That's all it is. | ||
| It's really that simple. | ||
| Yeah, it's nuts. | ||
| Anybody thought that Kamaru Usman was a bum? | ||
| I knew Usman was a murderer years ago. | ||
| I saw him fight years ago. | ||
| I'm like, nobody wants to fight that guy. | ||
| I know. | ||
| I used to love taking snippets of your podcast, your voice, because you're just that narration voice, and putting it with stuff. | ||
| You can be like, oh, that was a universe pulling us together. | ||
| But no, I just was like, this goes with this. | ||
| When you and Shab are together, I love that because y'all able to bounce. | ||
| Because obviously his experience with the fight game and then your experience with the fight game, y'all able to bounce debate and things like that. | ||
| And I'm like, that's a good mix. | ||
| Like a lot of people go in on the episode I did at a weigh ins with Conor and Khabib. | ||
| And it was like you and Shab talking. | ||
| And that's just the narration shot of how I do film, because that's what I love about sports documentaries is narration. | ||
| And that's how I get it. | ||
| I get so many people that's like, oh, I want to I'm trying to do the same thing you doing. | ||
| and I'm like, don't try to be an animal fighter. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like, if I'm filming one fighter, it's a thousand other fighters. | ||
| I don't want to just do UFC. I want to do Bellator. | ||
| I want to do one. | ||
| I want to do boxing. | ||
| That's why I was trying to say earlier, my goal, I would love to do an anatomy of Deontay Walter. | ||
| I bet you could do it. | ||
| I bet you could do it. | ||
| I had Andy Ruiz. | ||
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Really? | |
| And they didn't. | ||
| So what happened was Mike Rasheed reached out to me and was like, hey, do you want to do Andy Ruiz? | ||
| I was like, I'm thinking John Ruiz, right? | ||
| So I'm like, Junior? | ||
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Like... | |
| Junior or senior, right? | ||
| And he was like, no, the guy that replaced Big Baby Miller. | ||
| And that's one of my good friends, Big Baby Miller. | ||
| And he was like, yeah, man, he's fighting Joshua now. | ||
| He got a good chance. | ||
| I posted on my Instagram a text message from him. | ||
| He was like, man, it'll be a good opportunity because I think he can really beat Joshua. | ||
| And he did, and I missed out. | ||
| See, those are the moments like the Conor Dolly thing. | ||
| It's key moments in film, like this viral nation that you need to... | ||
| That's why I film everybody. | ||
| I film these guys that's not popular, things like that, because these guys may be the champions one day. | ||
| And I want to be like, I was there at the beginning. | ||
| That's the thrill you get out of it, if anything, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I filmed the Cejudos. | ||
| I filmed the Uzmans. | ||
| I filmed the Khabibs. | ||
| I've been in locker rooms with the title winners. | ||
| I've been in there when Vulcan lost. | ||
| But you were telling me some great footage that you got that you wouldn't have gotten. | ||
| That story wouldn't have got out about Cejudo. | ||
| About Cejudo coming back from the Olympic gold medal, winning the Olympics in wrestling, and then fucking living in the gym. | ||
| To win the Golden Globes. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| I never knew that. | ||
| That's the ecstasy I get out of filming these guys. | ||
| Like, you hear these little stories. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I was like, you never talk about that. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like, you know, he's running with the whole heel of the gold medal thing. | ||
| Well, he's doing some weird shit now. | ||
| He's calling himself the King of Cringe. | ||
| King of Cringe. | ||
| What is that about? | ||
| Well, because people was calling him cringey. | ||
| Why is he hissing them? | ||
| You know how they rake on Luke Rockhold? | ||
| Because he's like Triple C now. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I'm now Triple C. He's running with it. | ||
| He like the Mexican Colby Covington. | ||
| He better be careful. | ||
| What he is is a fucking beast. | ||
| He a beast, though. | ||
| His mind is just unstoppable. | ||
| The fact that Marlon fucked him up like that in that first round and was chewing his legs up, I mean, I did not think. | ||
| And it looked like he was going to get KO'd. | ||
| It looked like he couldn't close the distance. | ||
| Marlon looked calm and comfortable and super professional. | ||
| And then a switch flipped, and then the second round came around, and Cejudo's just walking him down and closing the distance. | ||
| Then he gets him in the clinch and lands knees. | ||
| I'm like, this is like a fucking movie. | ||
| That's Eric Alberison and Santino DeFranco and all those guys over there. | ||
| That definitely has something to do with it, but it's also Cejudo. | ||
| Cejudo's a special athlete. | ||
| I did not know when he lost to DJ. Suhudo was lost. | ||
| He went on a whole world tour to find himself. | ||
| He went to Thailand. | ||
| He went to Brazil. | ||
| He was training everywhere. | ||
| After he lost to DJ. After he lost the first time. | ||
| And those are the stories right there. | ||
| He felt like he needed to get better as a martial artist. | ||
| Well, he did. | ||
| I mean, with DJ at the time, it's arguable now who's the best. | ||
| It's like him or John, right? | ||
| Now he's at 1FC. It's a wholly different ballgame. | ||
| But what DJ was, was the most complete package we'd ever seen. | ||
| The guy who you couldn't hit, who could hit you, he could wrestle you, he could submit you, he could strike with you. | ||
| He had incredible footwork and speed. | ||
| I mean, DJ was just perfect. | ||
| And that night, he just found that opening, just fucked him up with knees to the body. | ||
| I mean, DJ, man, there was moments in DJ's career where I remember watching him and calling his fights. | ||
| I'm like, God damn, this dude's special. | ||
| It's like something about what he's doing. | ||
| He's so far ahead of everybody else in the division. | ||
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So far ahead. | |
| I think I'm about to go up to Seattle or Kirkland and do something for one FC. Concentrate on Matt Hume. | ||
| Matt Hume is a bad motherfucker. | ||
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Is he? | |
| Oh my god. | ||
| He's got such a deep knowledge and understanding of the sport. | ||
| You ever see him fight? | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Matt Hume stopped Pat Miletic back in the day. | ||
| I know Pat. | ||
| Who did he submit? | ||
| Kenny Johnson? | ||
| I forget who it was in one of those... | ||
| They had a professional submission grappling pay-per-view event at one point in time. | ||
| Frank Shamrock submitted Dan Henderson. | ||
| And Matt Hume was a fucking straight up killer. | ||
| I mean, he was a really, really good world-class mixed martial artist back when nobody was. | ||
| He had excellent Muay Thai, excellent submissions. | ||
| He was good at everything. | ||
| How was the Seattle MMA scene? | ||
| Well, I mean, there's been great guys to come from it, like Josh Barnett, and of course, Mighty Mouse being the biggest one. | ||
| It's not as big as, say, like Miami. | ||
| Like, where you're at in South Florida, that's the biggest... | ||
| Yeah, that was... | ||
| When I lived in South Florida, that was... | ||
| I mean... | ||
| Black Zillions and American Top Team on one spot, and then a plethora of world-class jiu-jitsu around that area. | ||
| I mean, and then also world-class boxing. | ||
| Obviously, I mean, that's where... | ||
| I mean, what the fuck is his name? | ||
| Sugar Ray Leonard's trainer, Muhammad Ali's trainer, the old guy. | ||
| Cus DeMoto? | ||
| No, no, no, no, no, no, no. | ||
| The old guy who said to... | ||
| I said Cus. | ||
| No, no, no, you're blowing it, son. | ||
| What the fuck is his name? | ||
| Old Italian guy. | ||
| Fuck, I can't believe I can't remember his name. | ||
| I can't believe I can't remember his name. | ||
| This is embarrassing. | ||
| Sugar Ray Leonard's boxing trainer. | ||
| Angelo Dundee. | ||
| Yeah, Angelo Dundee. | ||
| You're blowing it, kid. | ||
| And he comes out and stops Tommy Hearns in the next round. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| That was Miami. | ||
| Denver. | ||
| I'm not going to be in LA long. | ||
| Of course not. | ||
| You're a gypsy, man. | ||
| You just move around. | ||
| So my whole thing is, honestly, Joe, I want to settle somewhere, though. | ||
| Where do you want to settle? | ||
| Denver's a good spot. | ||
| This is all I was going to ask you. | ||
| So these are the three cities I'm thinking about. | ||
| To settle for maybe a few years, four years, back to San Diego, Denver, and Seattle. | ||
| Which one should I choose? | ||
| I would say San Diego or Denver. | ||
| I love Seattle, but that rainy season can suck my dick. | ||
| You can't do it. | ||
| It'll drive you crazy. | ||
| When it rains for seven weeks in a row, and you look out the window, you're like, I gotta get the fuck out of here. | ||
| There's not enough online dating, huh? | ||
| Are you in the sun on dating? | ||
| Be sitting in there swiping left, right. | ||
| It's just vitamin D, man. | ||
| It really is. | ||
| It's not good for your head. | ||
| I love San Diego. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| I love San Diego. | ||
| I live in a nice apartment complex now. | ||
| And the good thing about it is I can transfer. | ||
| They have a relocation program. | ||
| Like if you want to transfer 30 miles away, you can do it for free. | ||
| So I can choose... | ||
| Those cities. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| So, like, I can just transfer to them cities. | ||
| And I'm thinking, like, man, I gotta get out of downtown LA, man. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| Downtown's gross. | ||
| It's gross. | ||
| It's not a real downtown. | ||
| It's not like downtown New York. | ||
| It's like The Walking Dead at Ross. | ||
| Yes. | ||
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Ah! | |
| Bro. | ||
| Listen, I go there all the time. | ||
| It's gross. | ||
| I went in there the other day, and I was going to get, like, some Quest bars. | ||
| I've seen this dude in the aisle, and he was like, what's up, man? | ||
| He had a basket full of stuff, and then I look at him again. | ||
| He's just opening up stuff, eating it. | ||
| You go to another aisle, somebody's just roaming with a cart, and these are all homeless people just putting stuff in carts. | ||
| And just didn't get kicked out by security. | ||
| And then you see them and check out and you're like, this is crazy. | ||
| It's every day. | ||
| Downtown is insane. | ||
| It's infested with homeless people. | ||
| Like, you can't fix it. | ||
| Like, the only way to fix it was... | ||
| It's bad. | ||
| You'd have to take them, arrest them, put them in a plane, and fly them somewhere else. | ||
| And drop them off. | ||
| But that's what I heard they doing. | ||
| I heard they did that to L.A. Like, dropping people off in L.A.? Didn't we go over this? | ||
| We went up and someone got sent to, like, Indiana. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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What? | |
| We looked this up, and in fact, they've been doing that forever, sending people all around the country. | ||
| There's whole flight paths of what they did with homeless people. | ||
| They just send homeless people and let someone else deal with it. | ||
| Shit, they need to drop them off in Denver. | ||
| It's bad. | ||
| I heard Denver getting bad, too. | ||
| Of course it's getting bad, with that weed money. | ||
| The weed money, and now mushroom money, because now Denver decriminalized mushrooms. | ||
| Prostitution next. | ||
| Woo! | ||
| Probably. | ||
| Cheaper than dating these days. | ||
| You're excited. | ||
| Hey, man. | ||
| L.A., boy, it's tough. | ||
| I'll probably spend a lot of money on first dates. | ||
| Yeah, I'm sure. | ||
| It's a very materialistic city. | ||
| Because it sucks to be a man in dating. | ||
| Because you've got to impress. | ||
| Well, if you can impress, it doesn't suck. | ||
| Listen, before I started making money and having money... | ||
| Dating was fun because you was broke and you can do smoothie dates and Starbucks dates and you know you was going to spend five, six bucks to have a conversation. | ||
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How old are you now? | |
| I'm 37. Yeah, you're too close to 40 to be doing that. | ||
| I know. | ||
| You can't do that no more. | ||
| You got to take chicks to Palm Springs for the weekend and things like that. | ||
| Well, they want a nice meal. | ||
| I like that stuff now, though. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| They want a guy who can take them to a nice dinner and buy them nice things. | ||
| I don't fault any woman that wants a man that has his shit together. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because for so long I didn't. | ||
| And now I do. | ||
| Now I want to have some fun. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Forget that. | ||
| I ain't trying to complain no more. | ||
| But as far as cities, the vibe, I love the vibe of San Diego and I love the vibe of Denver. | ||
| I love those cities. | ||
| Yeah, I'm leaning towards back to San Diego because it's still close to... | ||
| I just drove to Irvine the other day. | ||
| I was like, that was a simple drive. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| As long as you do it early. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You try to do that shit at 4 o'clock in the afternoon, you want to shoot yourself. | ||
| Yeah, you will want to. | ||
| There's an Irvine improv I work at all the time. | ||
| Dude, when I have a 7 o'clock show, I leave here at fucking noon. | ||
|
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What? | |
| And I'm not playing games. | ||
| I leave here at noon. | ||
| I get there early. | ||
| I check in. | ||
| I have dinner. | ||
| I don't fuck around with that 4 p.m. | ||
| traffic. | ||
| It's insane. | ||
| It is nuts. | ||
| It took me six hours to get down there once. | ||
| When you went to Shab's show, when he had his special, how early did you... | ||
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Noon. | |
| Noon? | ||
| Noon. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| Got a hotel just to put my shit in. | ||
| Checked in, checked out. | ||
| I didn't even stay there. | ||
| My daughter had an event the next day that I had to go to for school. | ||
| So you drove back up? | ||
| Yeah, I drove back that night. | ||
| After the show. | ||
| After the second show. | ||
| That's an easy drive, though. | ||
| It's not bad. | ||
| Yeah, especially late at night. | ||
| Yeah, you get a couple Red Bulls and you're fine. | ||
| Yeah, I got to LA quick once when I lived in San Diego. | ||
| I used my boy's truck. | ||
| I met this girl online in the middle of the night. | ||
| You met a girl online in the middle of the night. | ||
| Listen, I know. | ||
| If I ever was going to end up on a Joe Rogan podcast, I thought it was going to be for me writing a book. | ||
| About online dating? | ||
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Really? | |
| Confessions of an online dater. | ||
| I swear. | ||
| Why don't you do that? | ||
| Well, you don't need a book, but just do a video about it. | ||
| Do documentaries about how crazy it is. | ||
| I used to film girls and interview them and everything. | ||
| About dating. | ||
| Like, what sucks about dating and things like that? | ||
| Online dating has only existed for, like, at its rawest form, 20 years. | ||
| Rawest form was 20 years ago. | ||
| That was like AOL. You was a weirdo then, though. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| Listen, if you do Tinder or Bumble in LA, you're seeing celebrities and everything on it. | ||
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Really? | |
| Yes, chicks. | ||
| Like all these successful chicks searching for love. | ||
|
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Wow. | |
| That's scary, though. | ||
| Why is it scary? | ||
| Because you don't know who you really meet in. | ||
| For a woman. | ||
| Imagine being a woman. | ||
| It would suck to be a woman. | ||
| That's got to be weird. | ||
| A successful celebrity woman trying to meet dudes. | ||
| You want to hear this story? | ||
| And this is crazy. | ||
| So I met this famous online female trainer, beautiful, here in LA. She's very popular. | ||
| I ain't going to say her name. | ||
| I met her on Match.com, and I got her Instagram, and we exchanged our Instagrams or whatever. | ||
| So I looked at her Instagram, and she was doing content, but on her phone, like in her living room, doing squat jumps and things like that. | ||
| And I reached out to her. | ||
| We set up a date. | ||
| We're going to go hiking, running, and do everything. | ||
| And I was like, listen... | ||
| I looked at your Instagram page and your content. | ||
| I would love to be able to help you out and give you better content. | ||
| She lost it. | ||
| I don't need your help. | ||
| I don't need your help. | ||
| You look like you need to help yourself. | ||
| I'm just telling you that I could help. | ||
| I'm like, I am a filmmaker. | ||
| I could help you do some content. | ||
| She took it the wrong way. | ||
| I'm probably trying to take advantage of her millions of followers and things like that. | ||
| I was like, man, I'm going to be single forever forever. | ||
| But I think sometimes that's also, there's very limited communicating with people in a text. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And they take it the wrong way. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| You got to kind of meet people. | ||
| But I bet if you met her and you said, hey, you are beautiful, you got a great body, these videos are great and everything, but I think I could make them even better. | ||
| Oh, she still would have taken it the wrong way. | ||
| She was like in her 40s. | ||
| People get set in their ways. | ||
| She was an alpha female. | ||
| You know, those alpha females that you can't. | ||
| Some girls have been fucked over so many times they think everyone's going to fuck them over. | ||
| It's like a dog that's been beaten. | ||
| You ever pick up a dog from the pound? | ||
| Oh, yeah? | ||
| Yeah, I've had dogs from the pound. | ||
| You're like, hey, I love dogs. | ||
| Come on, I'm not going to beat you. | ||
| They don't care. | ||
| It's nuts. | ||
| So, yeah, I would probably think San Diego would be the move or Denver. | ||
| I like both of them, man. | ||
| I can't go wrong. | ||
| I think you can't go wrong. | ||
| Well, you can't go wrong MMA-wise. | ||
| Like, San Diego has Alliance. | ||
| You know, San Diego has a ton of great jiu-jitsu. | ||
| Shout out to my man Boogie at 10th Planet. | ||
| And then... | ||
| It's close to here. | ||
| Yeah, it's real close to here. | ||
| But then, Denver is the fucking shit, man. | ||
| Denver got a lot of gym. | ||
| Denver also has really good vibe. | ||
| I'm trying to do some stuff without... | ||
| I like the people in Denver a lot. | ||
| I like the people in San Diego, too. | ||
| I would... | ||
| Look, I'd flip a coin. | ||
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If I had to move out of LA... I have no kids, so I could just flip a coin. | |
| San Diego. | ||
| We're going. | ||
| That's it, everybody. | ||
| That's how I'm going to do. | ||
| I would be happy. | ||
| Either one. | ||
| You can't go wrong. | ||
| And they're both a good-sized city. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Like, not too crazy. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Like, San Diego is a great-sized city. | ||
| And I'm not a going-out guy. | ||
| Like, I'm not... | ||
| I don't do clubs. | ||
| You know, I go to a bar here and there. | ||
| It cuts into your online dating, right? | ||
| It gets in the way. | ||
| Well, I don't know. | ||
| I think in them early days, I was in the clubs every day. | ||
| Yeah, that's a waste of time. | ||
| Yeah, and a lot of years I wasted just partying, not trying to get my shit together. | ||
| So I feel like now, it's different when you find a passion, man, and you get obsessed with it. | ||
| And I'm obsessed with this Anatomy of a Fire thing. | ||
| I have a post in my phone that I was going to show you where it was August 22, 2017, and I had 54 subscribers. | ||
| And I was like, 46 to my first 100. And I was like, listen, it's not a lot, but I appreciate all the supporters that I have. | ||
| So this is going to be one of the biggest MMA documentary channels in the world. | ||
| And that was August 22, 2017, when I first started the channel. | ||
| I couldn't even name it Anatomy of a Fighter yet. | ||
| You have to wait until you get 100 subscribers. | ||
| So looking back on that journey... | ||
| I went from South Florida to Vegas, Vegas to Florida, Florida to Vegas, Vegas to Florida, Florida to here. | ||
| And now here we are. | ||
| How many subscribers do you have now? | ||
| How many do I got, Jamie? | ||
| I think 238,000. | ||
| Beautiful. | ||
| Not bad. | ||
| I have a little thing in the back from when we had 100,000 subscribers. | ||
| We got a little award. | ||
| Yeah, I got one too. | ||
| I was like, look at that. | ||
| Silver Creator Award. | ||
| 100,000 subscribers. | ||
| That was my only goal with Anatomy of Fighter. | ||
| My friends have YouTube channels. | ||
| And I seen what they was doing and that was a goal, like the Silver Creator Award if you get $100,000. | ||
| And I was like, maybe I'll get it in two or three years. | ||
| That's what I thought. | ||
| And I can just do this on the side. | ||
| And then once I started to gain some traction, I was like, let me ease back on weddings. | ||
| And I'm leaving guaranteed income and comfortability to put my time and effort into this. | ||
| Because now I'm like, I got 200,000 people following me. | ||
| I can't go back now. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I gotta continue to build this. | ||
| Well, it's gonna be giant, man. | ||
| You're really talented, and it's really good. | ||
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I appreciate it. | |
| And what I like about this podcast, what I was hoping this podcast was gonna be is exactly what it was. | ||
| I love to hear people's stories. | ||
| That's one of the reasons why I like documentaries. | ||
| Because I think we can all relate to moments in our lives Where we're lost or we just didn't have it. | ||
| It wasn't where we wanted it to be. | ||
| Trying to figure out how the fuck do I get it together? | ||
| How the fuck do I make it happen? | ||
| It's the real world. | ||
| Instagram is fake. | ||
| You make it look whatever you want, but documentaries won't lie. | ||
| And that's the reason why I love doing that form of content because it's just like... | ||
| Listen, one thing I've learned about the whole series is that everybody's not going to like... | ||
| A certain fighter. | ||
| One fighter is not going to get a lot of views. | ||
| Some people are not even going to care about that fighter because that's just the way momentum and popularity is. | ||
| But that's when I love it the most. | ||
| Like somebody asked me the other day because I had posted a picture on my Instagram of the NBA draft. | ||
| It was one player sitting by himself while they was interviewing Zion Williamson. | ||
| All the media. | ||
| And you know how it is in media day in the UFC. Everybody got their name. | ||
| Well, this guy was sitting by himself and nobody was trying to talk to him. | ||
| And I said, yo, if you ever in this position, use this as motivation. | ||
| And I think like Kamaru Uzman posted, like I've been there where nobody want to pay attention to you. | ||
| So somebody commented and was like, would you rather film Khabib or a regional LFA guy? | ||
| I was like the regional LFA guy. | ||
| I take pleasure in connecting with people just like me. | ||
| I'm not popular. | ||
| It was that picture right there. | ||
| Like nobody's paying attention to him. | ||
| No thanks? | ||
| You just click no thanks in the pop-up ad? | ||
| That's essentially what they're saying about him. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| No thanks. | ||
| So that's how I feel even in the media circuit with what I do. | ||
| That's how it is with everything. | ||
| I mean, I've been there as a comedian. | ||
| I've been there in the early days of podcasting. | ||
| You know, it's it's how it is. | ||
| It's just life is a journey and what I love about your story is that People can relate to someone struggling and then figuring it out. | ||
| Yeah, and then it gives them hope like okay I'm struggling now But if I just make the right moves and put the right amount of effort and focus and and dedication to something I can make something happen Everybody can I really believe that and I love that. | ||
| It's one of my favorite things. | ||
| I'm a I'm a success junkie. | ||
| I love watching other people's success and I'm a big fan of other people doing well. | ||
| I like helping people. | ||
| Listen, I've been in locker rooms when they lose and I'm in there when they win and it's the same for me. | ||
| I feel bad for the other opponent. | ||
| People always ask me, do you get any type of excitement out of filming guys win? | ||
| Not really. | ||
| I'm just telling the story. | ||
| You have to be like that. | ||
| Kobe Covington, Kamaru Uzma. | ||
| I would love to be neutral and film both of them and do a story on Kobe and a story on Uzma. | ||
| Like, people always get mad. | ||
| It's like, why don't you post about this fight? | ||
| I'm like, I'm funding this myself. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I'm not, I can't. | ||
| First of all, again, stop reading those fucking comments, dude. | ||
| They'll change perception. | ||
| So I've met people that have gone mad reading comments. | ||
| They go crazy. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| They think the world's out to get them. | ||
| I'm like, hey, you got like a hundred people that are talking shit to you. | ||
| And then you got a thousand. | ||
| And ten million or whatever the fuck it is that love you. | ||
| That love you. | ||
| Don't do this, man. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Don't do this. | ||
| But I do wish I get... | ||
| I can't wait till I get to a point where I can have the resources to go film a lot more content because... | ||
| I love doing this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, I would love to go to, when you had Khalil Roundtree on, and I had commented on a comment on YouTube, like, I would love to do Anatomy of Khalil in Thailand. | ||
| I'll hook it up. | ||
| I would love to just go there. | ||
| You want to go to Thailand? | ||
| Do you know Khalil? | ||
| No, I never met him. | ||
| He's amazing. | ||
| Just go, but I ain't sitting on the edge of no damn buildings like he was doing. | ||
| He crazy for that. | ||
| He's crazy. | ||
| But the transformation that guy's made as a fighter from when he went to Thailand, he's back there now. | ||
| He's in Bangkok. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He's a beast, man. | ||
| That Eric Anders fight, I was like, holy shit. | ||
| Eric is a tough dude. | ||
| He's as tough as it is. | ||
| That was one thing Khalil said. | ||
| He never even winced. | ||
| I mean, he is eating leg kick after leg kick from a guy who kicks as hard as anybody I've ever seen. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Khalil is so fast. | ||
| When I was watching him throw those kicks, I was like, who is this guy? | ||
| He was brutal. | ||
| How did you turn into this guy? | ||
| Like, you see his earlier fights and you see this. | ||
| So he beat Gokan Saki. | ||
| What was his name? | ||
| Gokan Saki. | ||
| And then he lost, right? | ||
| Yeah, he lost to Johnny Walker. | ||
| And then he went and reinvented himself again. | ||
| Johnny caught him with an elbow in the clinch, man. | ||
| He caught him with one of these. | ||
| One of these elbows in the clinch. | ||
| And he KO'd him. | ||
| And, you know, he just said, okay, I have to really learn Muay Thai. | ||
| And so, fuck it, I'm going to Thailand. | ||
| I know. | ||
| So he went to Thailand and I followed his Instagram journey. | ||
| You know, I'm watching all his training footage and he just fell in love with Thailand. | ||
| And then he came back and I'm like, this motherfucker's fighting like a Thai. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Looking like Saget from Street Fighter. | ||
| But like a jacked... | ||
| Muscular, 205-pound tie. | ||
| He used to be a fat boy, too. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| That's crazy, man. | ||
| And the nicest guy. | ||
| He couldn't get a nicer guy. | ||
| It's nuts to see that transformation, to see him go from this guy that was chubby and then this world-class fighter. | ||
| Well, that, too, but... | ||
| The difference between him and... | ||
| Well, it's hard to say, right? | ||
| Because the Gokhan Saki fight was real quick. | ||
| He just cracked him in the left hand. | ||
| And Khalil's very fast. | ||
| And then to see him getting KO'd by Johnny Walker. | ||
| But then to see... | ||
| I've seen his other fights. | ||
| I've seen many fights of his. | ||
| But to see the transformation. | ||
| I'm like, what the fuck? | ||
| The kicks, man. | ||
| It was the kicks. | ||
| He put it all together. | ||
| And he was fighting Thai style. | ||
| It's like he was more of the most representative of Muay Thai I'd ever seen in MMA. He just absorbed it, man. | ||
| What's better? | ||
| The Thai-style kickboxing or the Dutch? | ||
| There's no better, man. | ||
| The thing is, look at Ramon Deckers. | ||
| Ramon Deckers went over there and he fucked everybody up in Thailand. | ||
| And he was their size. | ||
| It's the athlete, but it's also how they incorporate it. | ||
| There's some great Thai fighters. | ||
| I forget how to say his name. | ||
| Doombay just knocked him out. | ||
| Big time tie fighter. | ||
| He had like 200 pro tie fights. | ||
| He had so many... | ||
| And Dume caught him in glory. | ||
| Caught him with a right hand in the clinch and KO'd him. | ||
| It's like... | ||
| Everybody's style, and Dumbe's more of a kickboxer. | ||
| It's the athlete, but everybody's style has merits. | ||
| There's merits to just being that wrestler who ground and pounds and doesn't throw many kicks. | ||
| There's merits to being that jiu-jitsu guy that doesn't care if they get taken down. | ||
| It's just like, who are you, though? | ||
| Are you Damien Maia on the ground? | ||
| If you're Damien Maia on the ground, there's merits to that style. | ||
| Damien Maia has strangled a whole lot of world-class killers That never even got a punch-off on him. | ||
| Uzman got out of that wizard. | ||
| They broke it up. | ||
| They fucked David Meyer. | ||
| Nabalev is the guy he knocked out in his last fight. | ||
| Dumbe's a beast. | ||
| Well, Cedric Dumbe's an interesting guy, man, because he reinvented himself. | ||
| He was more of like a runner. | ||
| I wouldn't say a runner, but more of a mover, and he would win on points, but then he just, the last few fights. | ||
| It was a couple fights ago. | ||
| Two or three fights ago, he fought... | ||
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I forget how to say the fuck his name. | |
| I don't remember how to say the dude's name. | ||
| Thai guys have those crazy names. | ||
| I'm going to do some stuff with Glory, too. | ||
| Glory's amazing, man. | ||
| Glory does not get the respect that it deserves. | ||
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I know. | |
| I'm a giant fan. | ||
| I watch all the Glory fans. | ||
| That's what fascinates me about what I can do. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because people just think it's UFC. No, it's Anatomy of a Fighter. | ||
| It's everybody. | ||
| Yeah, it's all of that. | ||
| Cedric Dumbay. | ||
| Concentrate on that dude. | ||
| He's my favorite. | ||
| Cedric Dumbay. | ||
| He's so good. | ||
| Kickboxes this man. | ||
| He flatlines everybody. | ||
| There it is. | ||
| Sitsong Pinong. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| Tongchai Sitsong Pinong. | ||
| Say that real quick. | ||
| Tongchai Sitsong Pinong. | ||
| Go back to his... | ||
| So that guy that he fought, Tongchai, Tongchai had like... | ||
| I mean, hundreds of fights. | ||
| I don't know how many fucking fights he had total. | ||
| It was more than 100 tie fights and then a shit ton. | ||
| Look, 136 wins. | ||
| Yeah, 175 fucking fights. | ||
| I'll take 39 losses if I've won 136 times. | ||
| Yeah, he fought 175 times. | ||
| That is insane. | ||
| So, I mean, he's got that Thai style where Doombe's more of a kickboxer style. | ||
| A lot of times people say, well, they prefer the Thai style because the elbows and the clinch and the knees, but Doombe flatlined him. | ||
| It's the athlete. | ||
| It's the way they incorporate their style competing against the other style. | ||
| There's merits to kickboxing. | ||
| I prefer the Thai style because I think there's a real benefit to being really good at the clinch. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Especially when it comes to MMA. Real good at the clinch, the knees to the body, the elbows in the clinch, and kickboxing doesn't allow elbows or knees to the body. | ||
| But we've seen world-class kickboxers that have come on, like Cro Cop, that have had tremendous success in MMA, going from kickboxing into MMA. I always wonder what somebody like Ray Seffo would do in A-prime in MMA. Well, look at Mark Hunt. | ||
| Mark Hunt's had a tremendous run. | ||
| He fought Ray Seffo, right? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yeah, he did. | ||
| Yes, he fought Ray Seffo. | ||
| I mean, when you go back to Mark Hunt, Mark Hunt really, I mean, when he won the K-1 Grand Prix was probably when he was in his prime as an athlete. | ||
| And then he fought a lot of fights in Pride. | ||
| So by the time we got him in the UFC, Mark's in his 40s now, right? | ||
| Is Mark still retiring? | ||
| He just lost his last fight, right? | ||
| Who did he lose to? | ||
| Willis? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| He lost to Willis. | ||
| Yeah, I think so. | ||
| I think he's retiring, though. | ||
| I don't know, but he's probably close. | ||
| I mean, he's had a long, long, long career. | ||
| When I was living in Florida, like my home gym is Hard Knocks 365. That's where I started. | ||
| That's Henry Hoof's gym, right? | ||
| I love that guy. | ||
| That's like my big brother, man. | ||
| I love him. | ||
| He's a great trainer. | ||
| He needs a platform to tell his life story because it's crazy. | ||
| Henry Hoof, he just got back from Thailand. | ||
| He went over there. | ||
| He told me, he's like, I just got away from the game for a couple weeks, and then I came back refreshed. | ||
| Because, you know, he's a beast. | ||
| Like, I wouldn't want to get caught in the alley with Henry Hoof. | ||
| He's a big fella, too. | ||
| Yeah, he's tall as me. | ||
| He's going to kick your damn knee out. | ||
| Like, that's just how he is. | ||
| I done pissed him off a couple times. | ||
| He done kicked me through the cage. | ||
| Why? | ||
| I just complained. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Like, complaining. | ||
| Like, hey, Hoof, man, these people didn't pay me enough. | ||
| And he like, quit complaining. | ||
| Like, fell back. | ||
| I was like, damn. | ||
| I was like, holding on to the cage. | ||
| I'm like, Hoof is a bad man, man. | ||
| You don't want to get on his bad side. | ||
| He's a great trainer. | ||
| But he's a great guy. | ||
| And I'm happy. | ||
| Listen, starting his journey, I've seen so many people say, oh, Hoof is a great coach, but he just can't coach a champion. | ||
| And just to see him grind and find... | ||
| But he has champions. | ||
| He has Ong and one FC, the double champion. | ||
| He had Michael Chandler, then won a belt a couple times. | ||
| How do you say Ong's first name? | ||
| Ong. | ||
| Silent. | ||
| How do you pronounce it? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Ong. | ||
| That's what I call him. | ||
| He's a beast, man. | ||
| He's a beast. | ||
| People are sleeping on one fighters, and I think when you see guys like Eddie Alvarez go over there and get KO'd, and you see a lot of fighters go over there and have real... | ||
| I mean, Mighty Mouse had a real hard fight. | ||
| He did. | ||
| That wasn't an easy fight. | ||
| I love Chachri, too. | ||
| I love Chachri as well, but it's a different world when you're not cutting weight. | ||
| It's a different world. | ||
| You know, those advantages you have of being big, they don't exist anymore. | ||
| You're now fighting someone who's your size. | ||
| I think it's better. | ||
| I'm a gypsy. | ||
| Hey, I would love to go live in Singapore for a year and just film one FC guy. | ||
| Well, maybe Chautry, if you're listening, if he hears this, maybe he'd have you come down and do that. | ||
| I talked to the executive producer of content. | ||
| They want me to do some stuff for him, though. | ||
| It's changing the landscape of MMA because it is literally larger than the UFC worldwide because of Asia. | ||
| All the millions of views. | ||
| Millions. | ||
| Oh my God. | ||
| Millions and millions. | ||
| Imagine if I got the Asia market on Anatomy and Fighters with them subscribers. | ||
| Oh my God. | ||
| Well, the good thing is you wouldn't be able to read the contents. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The comments. | ||
| The comments would be all in Asian. | ||
| You'd be like, I don't know what the fuck you're saying. | ||
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I don't know what they're saying. | |
| Great. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Appreciate it. | ||
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Just don't fucking read them, man. | |
| It's tough, man. | ||
| I know. | ||
| It is. | ||
| It draws you in. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You'll be healthier and happier. | ||
| Well, you get it. | ||
| Like, I had got addicted. | ||
| For a minute, the Khabib effect and Conor effect is real. | ||
| And you post a video and you get 100,000 views within four hours. | ||
| You're like, it's going to be like this all the time. | ||
| Then you post, shout out to my guy Desmond Green, a video of him. | ||
| And it's insightful and it's talking about some stuff and he'll get 5,000 views. | ||
| And it's kind of like that. | ||
| It's like a high, right? | ||
| And it's like, I got away from it though. | ||
| That's the reason why I was like, you know what? | ||
| I started thinking about a lot of stuff in the past month where I was like, man, I just need to move somewhere, live a normal life, and film. | ||
| And I can go fly somewhere, come back home, live in Denver, live in San Diego, and just be away from popularity and materialism. | ||
| And that's the thing. | ||
| It's like, I just want to stick to building this however long it takes. | ||
| Like I said, if I look back on your channel, I can't imagine where this could be in six years. | ||
| Imagine where it could be. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, it can be gigantic, especially when you think about the fact that you have so many different arts and different disciplines to study. | ||
| Muay Thai, kickboxing, Dutch kickboxing, boxing, jiu-jitsu. | ||
| Jiu-jitsu. | ||
| I mean, there's so much you can study and so much you can watch and so much you can learn. | ||
| Are you going to train yourself? | ||
| Kamal Uzman told me I should go over to Undisputed and... | ||
| Or Unbreakable. | ||
| Unbreakable in LA. With Glazer. | ||
| Why not? | ||
| And just throw some hands. | ||
| Well, just do something. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It'll be fun. | ||
| You've built for it, shit. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You have that long reach. | ||
| That's these shirts, man. | ||
| They make you look good. | ||
| 8-band strong. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, you obviously work out. | ||
| Yeah, I work out every day. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I read a whole thing on runner's high yesterday because I was like, I want to get back into running. | ||
| For endorphins? | ||
| You're heavy, man. | ||
| How much do you weigh? | ||
| 230. The thing about running, I really think that a lot of people overdo it when they're larger people in the beginning. | ||
| And I think you really should make sure you get someone who shows you how to run. | ||
| A mile a day is fine. | ||
| A couple miles a day. | ||
| Yeah, sure. | ||
| But make sure you don't run on concrete, man. | ||
| No, treadmill. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm a swimmer, though. | ||
| I haven't since I've been in L.A., but in Florida, I swim every single day, every day, for an hour. | ||
| Have you ever used one of those Life Runner treadmills, those ones you self-propel? | ||
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Mm-mm. | |
| We have one here. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| They have them at the Institute, too. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What is it called? | ||
| Not Life Runner. | ||
| I made the wrong word. | ||
| They have them at the Institute. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Air Assault. | ||
| It's like an Air Assault. | ||
| The Air Assault bike, the same company, they make that treadmill. | ||
| It's the shit. | ||
| It's literally 13, something like 13% harder than regular running. | ||
| So it makes you better at regular running. | ||
| Is that what it's called? | ||
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Yeah, Assault Air Runner. | |
| Assault Air Runner. | ||
| I want to get back into running. | ||
| I'll show it to you when we get done here. | ||
| It's really good because it's self-propelled. | ||
| You're pushing it rather than keep... | ||
| Because with a treadmill, all you're doing is lifting your leg up and putting it down. | ||
| You're not really propelling yourself forward. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Like the belt's moving. | ||
| But this, you have to make the belt move. | ||
| And so when you're making the belt move, you're actually pushing with your legs and strengthens your legs up. | ||
| I prefer it. | ||
| I'd be afraid to do anything at my age where I'd be seeing these basketball players just tearing their Achilles by just stepping. | ||
| I'm thinking like, man, that's tough. | ||
| I wouldn't want to get kicked in my left knee right now. | ||
| But I have, like I study things that I film, right? | ||
| And I just be like, especially like Henry Hoof, I look at all his leg kicks when he's teaching leg kicks. | ||
| I'm like, if I ever get in the street fight, I just need somebody to properly teach me how to kick in that leg. | ||
| I'm disabling whoever in my face. | ||
| That's the first thing I want to do, is kick you in your leg. | ||
| I'll punch you in your face. | ||
| I'm athletic enough to beat your ass. | ||
| But I'm just saying, it's the wrestling that's going to get you. | ||
| Because most fights end up on the ground, so you've got to know what to do when you're tussling with some... | ||
| When you go to Ted's Planet tonight, just ask him to show you some shit. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Or choke. | ||
| With a choke. | ||
| Long arms are great for chokes, man. | ||
| Great for chokes and... | ||
| Darces and arm end chokes. | ||
| Because look at John. | ||
| John, my height. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Like I've been around John and I just think like you see John Jones on TV and then you see him in person. | ||
| You're like, he a long motherfucker. | ||
| He's long and he will fuck you up. | ||
| The best at using it. | ||
| No one's better at using distance ever than John. | ||
| He did. | ||
| Did you ever see the video? | ||
| Do you know who Dr. Bo Hightower is? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Like when he let John kick him? | ||
| He did? | ||
| Yeah, I guess he... | ||
| Why? | ||
| He just let him kick him and John kicked him in his leg and he just buckled. | ||
| I was just like... | ||
| Why would he let him kick him? | ||
| I think he had reached the number of subscribers on YouTube. | ||
| Oh, Jesus. | ||
| Decided to be crippled? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| John is a beast. | ||
| I met John a few times. | ||
| I haven't done Anatomy of John Jones yet. | ||
| Oh, is this it? | ||
| Yeah, watch this. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| He's putting his weight on it too. | ||
| John is crazy. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| He did it to another doctor, too. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| He's crippling doctors. | ||
| And he didn't even hit them full blast. | ||
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Nah. | |
| But you know how weak that leg can be. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If you don't train that and strengthen it. | ||
| How do you even strengthen that part of your leg? | ||
| You get used to getting kicked there. | ||
| You develop all these weird veins, too. | ||
| It's real strange. | ||
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Nah, man. | |
| You ever see Kevin Randerman's leg after he fought Pedro? | ||
| Kevin Randerman with the hair? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Didn't he have his hair blonde or something? | ||
| Yeah, sometimes. | ||
| Some fights he had crazy blonde hair. | ||
| He had big legs though. | ||
| He was jacked. | ||
| Super jacked. | ||
| But he fought Pedro Hizzo. | ||
| And Pedro Hizzo fucked his legs up so bad. | ||
| He had these giant veins. | ||
| Weird, broken veins all over his leg. | ||
| Randy Couture had him too. | ||
| Also from Pedro Hizzo. | ||
| I like Randy. | ||
| In all the years I've seen people kick legs, Pedro Hizo probably kicked harder than anybody I've ever seen. | ||
| I remember I watched him at Beverly Hills Jiu-Jitsu in the 1990s. | ||
| He was kicking a heavy bag, and I was just like, what in the fuck? | ||
| His leg kicks were preposterous. | ||
| It would just bend that fucking bag in half, and you just think about what it would do to your leg. | ||
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Pedro fucked a lot of people up. | |
| Pedro Hizzo was a fucking beast back in the day. | ||
| I've seen a lot of people get fucked up in the gym. | ||
| I just don't release it. | ||
| I got a lot of footage that I can't ever embarrass people. | ||
| And that's the thing. | ||
| I appreciate all the fighters that have let me document their lives because they trusted me with the intimate parts of their lives. | ||
| I'm getting invited around these guys. | ||
| Kids, they wives. | ||
| Like, you just don't do that. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So that's the respect level they've given me to where they trust me that I'm doing well with the story. | ||
| So I appreciate all that. | ||
| You have to take care of that. | ||
| Yeah, you have to hone it. | ||
| Listen, when I first used to come into the gym with Hoofnim at the Black Zillions... | ||
| I remember Hoof was like, who the fuck is you? | ||
| Who are you? | ||
| Like, what are you doing here, right? | ||
| Like, you have to gain that. | ||
| Like, I get so many fans be like, hey, do you think I could be with you at a fight week? | ||
| And I'm thinking like... | ||
| No, man, you have to build your way to distrust. | ||
| These managers have to trust you. | ||
| The gyms have to trust you. | ||
| These coaches have to trust you. | ||
| Some people are real picky about what you film. | ||
| Maybe it's one week after the fight. | ||
| They know a lot of people watching your channel now. | ||
| We can't release. | ||
| That's how it was when Cejudo fought Marlon. | ||
| I had released a snippet of the episode that I was going to release. | ||
| And it was like they was on the opposite sides of the cage at the gym and it was like fight and then he came out exactly the way he was going to come out with Marlon. | ||
| But I wasn't paying attention. | ||
| It was slow motion. | ||
| He was just coming out. | ||
| So Cejudo freaking out. | ||
| Fight week. | ||
| He like, bro, did you post this yet? | ||
| I'm like, no. | ||
| He's like, man, you got to take that down because that's exactly what I'm doing with Marlon. | ||
| And I was like, oh, man. | ||
| What was he doing that was so unusual? | ||
| You know, like, as soon as the fight started, he was going to come out in a certain stance. | ||
| He was going to come out in a certain stance, like a little, you know, his little karate style? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then he was going to actually do, I don't know what it was, but he was freaking out, and I was just like. | ||
| The thing about Marlon is, Marlon is a giant 135. Yeah. | ||
| I mean, Marlon is so big. | ||
| I don't know how much weight he cuts, but I know that California won't let him fight 135 again. | ||
| Because California has that rule where you can't hydrate more than, I think it's 10% or 10%. | ||
| So you can't blow back up. | ||
| You can't blow back up. | ||
| So he did blow back up in a fight, and California said, no more 135 for you. | ||
| So it's very obvious that he's cutting a tremendous amount of weight. | ||
| He's huge. | ||
| He's huge. | ||
| He's built like a comic book character. | ||
| Yeah, he is. | ||
| So I think that he cut way too much weight. | ||
| And I think that that contributes to his demise in the second round. | ||
| Because he couldn't take Henry out. | ||
| Henry was locked on with the knees. | ||
| The knees. | ||
| I was like, it's ten knees in a row. | ||
| Well, it was ridiculous. | ||
| And he let him clinch with him like that in a way that you don't do unless you're tired. | ||
| And I think he compromises himself. | ||
| I think there's two things going on. | ||
| One, I think Henry has a force of will that very few human beings could ever possibly understand. | ||
| Henry has a self-belief and just a stainless steel will. | ||
| That motherfucker just puts it on you. | ||
| And I think Marlon outclassed him in that first round, but I don't think it's sustainable. | ||
| I don't think he can keep that pace with that dehydration level and with what he's doing to his body to make 135 pounds. | ||
| I think he cripples him. | ||
| So where does the division go now since Henry's out? | ||
| Here's the problem. | ||
| If he goes to 145, right, if Marlon goes to 145, then he doesn't maintain the same advantages that he has in cutting all that weight. | ||
| Then he's the size of these guys. | ||
| Okay, so he goes to 145. Just think about guys like Calvin Cater that can flatline you, and he's tall and long, and that shit is not going to work on him the way it works on those 135-pound guys. | ||
| It's a different world. | ||
| You got Jose Aldo. | ||
| You got Max Holloway who's walking around at 180 and getting down to 145. That's his teammate though. | ||
| What's that? | ||
| Zabit. | ||
| Zabit, yeah. | ||
| Oh my God, man. | ||
| Zabit is a motherfucker. | ||
| That's a Shaolin Monk. | ||
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Woo! | |
| He's amazing. | ||
| They're going to make a movie of him. | ||
| He's another Dagestan guy. | ||
| They're going to make a movie of him. | ||
| Of Zabit? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He got a crazy story. | ||
| Yeah? | ||
| Like Shaolin Monk type stuff. | ||
| Sent him off as a kid type thing. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Listen, Zabit. | ||
| I've never seen nothing like Zabit. | ||
| He's super technical. | ||
| Filming him and training him. | ||
| His English is getting better, too. | ||
| It is getting better. | ||
| That's a good thing for him. | ||
| I think he's the next... | ||
| Man, there's so many stars brewing in Dagestan. | ||
| There's just so many of them over there, man. | ||
| Oh, sure. | ||
| If they have that mentality and they're that tough, I mean, that breeds more people like that. | ||
| Killers breed killers. | ||
| You look at gyms like A.K.A., right? | ||
| You've got Cain Velasquez, Daniel Cormier. | ||
| Go down the line. | ||
| Luke Rockhold, John Fitch, Josh Koscheck. | ||
| How many fucking killers have come out of that gym? | ||
| You've got to see... | ||
| Khabib and them play basketball in Dagestan when I was over there. | ||
| It's like one of my most popular videos where they play basketball, full hours of basketball, and then train for two hours. | ||
| No dribbling. | ||
| But doesn't Khabib have fucked up knees? | ||
| What do you mean by no dribbling? | ||
| It's called Dagestan basketball. | ||
| They just hold on to it? | ||
| Like rugby basketball. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| What the fuck am I looking at? | ||
| It's the craziest thing ever. | ||
| They just hold on to it? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| No. | ||
| They're trying to wrestle. | ||
| They're throwing you down like people are getting choked out. | ||
| It's the craziest thing ever. | ||
| This is the most ridiculous basketball I've ever seen. | ||
| Look at Khabib. | ||
| Khabib, so sorry in basketball. | ||
| Well, Jamie loves basketball, so this is hilarious to Jamie. | ||
| This is crazy. | ||
| White Russian basketball. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Look at Khabib. | ||
| What happens when the ball goes down? | ||
| Oh, they wrestle. | ||
| Yeah, it gets intense, too. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| I played with them once. | ||
| Why don't they dribble? | ||
| I have no clue. | ||
| Look at his dad. | ||
| And he intense. | ||
| Two yelling at him. | ||
| They probably play with a medicine ball. | ||
| No, they play with a medicine ball. | ||
| Heavy as hell. | ||
| That is so ridiculous. | ||
| Watching people run around and play basketball without dribbling. | ||
| That is hilarious. | ||
| Look at Khabib. | ||
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Look. | |
| Khabib scored. | ||
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Look. | |
| Look, he looked at me. | ||
| He pointed to me. | ||
| He pointed to me like you're happy. | ||
| Bitch, you traveled. | ||
| This is not real. | ||
| And they play for hours. | ||
| That's so crazy. | ||
| And then they're like, oh, it's time to train. | ||
| It's time to train now. | ||
| So that's their warm-up? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That's the gym Khabib trains in right there. | ||
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Wow. | |
| That's it. | ||
| That floor. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Right there. | ||
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Wow. | |
| That's crazy. | ||
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Look at these guys. | |
| Look. | ||
| The fact that they play a different version of basketball. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Did he just get KO'd? | ||
| What happened there? | ||
| At the end of this, Khabib is going to choke somebody out. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, it's crazy, man. | ||
| And they run on the mats with their shoes on? | ||
| These motherfuckers are going to get staffed. | ||
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Look, look, look, look. | |
| Look at Khabib. | ||
| What is happening here? | ||
| This is so ridiculous. | ||
| Looks like a running back. | ||
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Looks like they're playing rugby. | |
| Yeah, it's like rugby basketball. | ||
| That's what I called it. | ||
| But they call it a different thing in Dagestan that I found out. | ||
| What do they call it? | ||
| It's something, man. | ||
| It's like Australian rules football, right? | ||
| Like Dagestan rules basketball. | ||
| Yeah, literally. | ||
| And I play with them. | ||
| And my knee was swelled for two days in Dagestan. | ||
| Because they tackled you? | ||
| Oh, they was killing me. | ||
| Did you try to dribble or did you just play their way? | ||
| I was scoring and everything, but when my knee started hurting, Khabib was like, brother, you too big to be sorry. | ||
| I was like, hey, I can't move, bro. | ||
| What is wrong with you? | ||
| You twisted your knee? | ||
| Yeah, they was all arguing about picking me up. | ||
| Remember that when I dunked on Khabib? | ||
| I sent you that image of me dunking on Khabib? | ||
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Yes. | |
| Like he was trying to guard me? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| They really wanted to pick me up then. | ||
| It was like, oh, we getting him. | ||
| So I'm thinking it was going to be easy. | ||
| I'm going to just hold the ball up and jump. | ||
| Boy, they was taking my knees out. | ||
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Oh, no. | |
| They was taking it easy on each other until they saw the black dude... | ||
| When they saw the black dude play, they was like, oh, we're really not about to... | ||
| A guy who actually had the potential to play professionally. | ||
| Yeah, and they go on crazy. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| This is hilarious. | ||
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This is such a weird way of playing basketball. | |
| That's fun. | ||
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Look. | |
| The ball's dead every time it hits the ground. | ||
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It's got no bounce. | |
| Or the floor is dead or something. | ||
| He dimed him though. | ||
| Well, it looks like the floor is a regular basketball floor. | ||
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It is. | |
| Look how happy they are. | ||
| Look at his dad. | ||
| Like that. | ||
| Look at this running with the fucking ball like this. | ||
| It's hilarious. | ||
| And this is slow motion. | ||
| So you see, look. | ||
| Push you out of bounds. | ||
| They do all that. | ||
| They did that to me a couple times. | ||
| But they run on that fucking mat. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Watch this. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Here it is right here. | ||
| Watch this. | ||
| Look. | ||
| Look. | ||
| Khabib ain't stopping. | ||
| So he's wrestling with this dude? | ||
| Why is he doing that? | ||
| Because to hold him down. | ||
| Like, now they're wrestling, wrestling. | ||
| Look, Khabib ain't stopping. | ||
| And they're doing it on the mat. | ||
| Look, Khabib is a madman. | ||
| Oh my God, he's taking his back. | ||
| He's choking him out. | ||
| He's hitting a tap. | ||
| That is crazy. | ||
| So they wrestle while they're playing basketball? | ||
| Yes, they will tackle you down. | ||
| So there's no rules. | ||
| No rules. | ||
| That is hilarious. | ||
| Look, it's still going on. | ||
| Oh my God, he's on top. | ||
| The guy tapped already. | ||
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Look. | |
| And now he's got him in an arm bar. | ||
| Good. | ||
| But the guy already tapped! | ||
| Oh man, this will bring back memories. | ||
| But wait a minute. | ||
| People trying to get Khabib off him? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| His teammates is because you free up another opponent so you can play. | ||
| Look at Khabib, look at Khabib. | ||
| That is hilarious. | ||
| He thought he was Dr. J right there. | ||
| He thought he was Dr. J right there. | ||
| The sky hook. | ||
| Oh man. | ||
| It's crazy seeing MMA fighters playing basketball. | ||
| That's the worst thing ever. | ||
| This is not basketball though. | ||
| This is something different. | ||
| I mean, when you're not ever dribbling. | ||
| Did you see the video of Francis trying to, he paid an homage to Zion Williamson? | ||
| And then he was out there shooting basketballs? | ||
| ESPN just did it? | ||
| Bro, Francis is the worst athlete. | ||
| He's not an athlete, bro. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| If you can't, if you're 6'5 and can't dunk a basketball. | ||
| Well, don't you remember when Mike Tyson was in his prime? | ||
| Remember when you seen that basketball with the overalls? | ||
| With the overalls? | ||
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Oh my. | |
| Well, it's just he's got dedication to one thing. | ||
| One thing. | ||
| That's the thing. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Look, look, look, look. | ||
| He's laughing though. | ||
| That's probably the first time he ever tried to do that. | ||
| Man, and he will punch you a pinky and your soul will come out your body. | ||
| He hits so fucking hard. | ||
| When he hit Alistair, there's another kickboxer who made it big in MMA, right? | ||
| Alistair over him. | ||
| But Alistair was like a real... | ||
| Alistair's very, very well-rounded. | ||
| He's not just a kickboxer, but K-1 Grand Prix champion. | ||
| You gotta call him a kickboxer. | ||
| But when he hit Alistair with that left hook... | ||
| I was like, Jesus Christ. | ||
| I saw it the other day. | ||
| They did a free fight. | ||
| They did a free fight on UFC Channel. | ||
| And I just watched it over and over and over. | ||
| And I was like, Dan, it was the follow through punch. | ||
| I was like, that's the scariest moment I ever had. | ||
| I wouldn't say scariest, but the most intimidating moment I ever had. | ||
| I was filming Francis eating a banana and he didn't like it. | ||
| He didn't like you filming him? | ||
| I was in the elevator with him and Uzman. | ||
| We was in Pittsburgh when we did UFC Pittsburgh when Rocco fought David Branch back then. | ||
| And Francis came to support Camaro. | ||
| So they're going to do jiu-jitsu in a little workout room and Francis is like talking to Uzman opening in a banana. | ||
| And I'm like, he put the banana in his mouth and he started eating it. | ||
| And I'm filming and he looked, hey, hey. | ||
| He like slapped the camera away. | ||
| That was my boy though. | ||
| Francis was my boy. | ||
| But that was before I really knew him. | ||
| Why are you filming him eating? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Maybe he just didn't, you know, men with bananas in their mouth they might not like. | ||
| The banana in the tailpipe. | ||
| That was funny. | ||
| Francis is intimidating, man. | ||
| Oh, he's terrifying. | ||
| When he clipped Cain Velasquez, there it is. | ||
| There's that uppercut. | ||
| It's like an uppercut left hook. | ||
| Like a shovel hook. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Boom! | ||
| Right before that, his swagger, he had the confidence bouncing his shoulders like he was ready to... | ||
| He believed he was the greatest in the world. | ||
| And that Stipe fight changed his fucking trajectory, man. | ||
| It really did. | ||
| Changed his life, huh? | ||
| That's a really interesting fight because Stipe was a real champion. | ||
| You know what's crazy? | ||
| I was in a room next to Francis in Boston. | ||
| And he never went to sleep. | ||
| And I had my door open. | ||
| So my room was right next to Francis. | ||
| And I had my door open because I was like, if fighters come by, I'm going to just catch them with a camera. | ||
| You just kept your door open? | ||
| I kept, in the middle of the night, editing. | ||
| Because that's, you know, during Fight Week, you know how Embedded releases day series? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm filming all of these fighters and then I'm going back up to my room and I'm editing. | ||
| But I'm already editing in my head. | ||
| That's how I'm able to get stuff out. | ||
| What program are you editing with? | ||
| Premiere now. | ||
| Premiere. | ||
| And you're just doing it, just slapping it up as quick as you can. | ||
| But see, my method when I film is I'm already knowing what I'm going to use. | ||
| Okay, so you're making your cuts. | ||
| I know the opening shot. | ||
| I know everything. | ||
| Are you writing all this stuff down? | ||
| No, I keep it in my head. | ||
| And people be like, how can you edit and release it that fast? | ||
| It's like, it's already done before I go to my room. | ||
| I just have to go up there and put it together. | ||
| Music, everything. | ||
| I'm able to just, I don't know how I'm able to do it. | ||
| It's just something natural I've been doing for years. | ||
| Well, obviously you have a deep. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And I've developed a skill set. | ||
| It's easy. | ||
| They always say, well, you put in 10,000 hours and some of you become an expert. | ||
| I feel like I put in my 10,000 hours doing all types of different types of shoots to survive. | ||
| And now this is my arena. | ||
| This is my big stage. | ||
| But I remember that week, Francis never went to sleep. | ||
| I'd be like, bro, go to sleep. | ||
| What are you doing with your door open? | ||
| Trying to catch you. | ||
| And then he'd come in, sit on the bed, and look at what I was editing. | ||
| Because obviously I was filming him as well. | ||
| And it was just funny. | ||
| Just those type of memories. | ||
| What time was it? | ||
| He never went to sleep all night? | ||
| Well, you know, you get there Monday, Tuesday, Friday, Saturday. | ||
| So it may be Wednesday and you're still up at 3 in the morning. | ||
| Because you fighting late. | ||
| No, because think about it. | ||
| Think about it. | ||
| The last fight is at what time? | ||
| 10 o'clock. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| 9 o'clock. | ||
| Well, LA time. | ||
| Boston time. | ||
| Midnight. | ||
| Yeah, midnight. | ||
| Yeah, so he up because he can't go to sleep early because he got to fight. | ||
| And that's one thing I discovered about the fight game. | ||
| Like, damn, that does make sense. | ||
| You're fighting at 11 p.m. | ||
| Yeah, you want to keep yourself on that side. | ||
| So he's just walking around the hallways. | ||
| Big-ass Francis in Boston. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| It's like looking back on that stuff and it's like, man, I've captured a lot of stuff already. | ||
| What's crazy is with him, you watch him and then this next fight against Derek Lewis and neither one of them threw anything. | ||
| Derek had a fucked up back. | ||
| He really probably shouldn't even be fighting. | ||
| Nobody wanted to do anything. | ||
| That fight was terrible. | ||
| Oh my god, I watched it. | ||
| The fact that Artem beat him in a boxing match. | ||
| It shouldn't have been even no contest. | ||
| But Pauly's never had power. | ||
| He's never been a powerful guy. | ||
| And them hands is brittle. | ||
| You know them hands is brittle. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But he's also, he's never been a guy that can just... | ||
| Keep you off. | ||
| Connor really beat the hell out of him. | ||
| I firmly believe it now. | ||
| You think so? | ||
| Yeah, I don't... | ||
| Like, after watching that... | ||
| Well, also after watching Pauly's examination of that fight afterwards, you're like, wait a minute, you thought you lost? | ||
| You mean you thought you won a decision? | ||
| You thought you got a shit decision? | ||
| Like, you didn't do anything. | ||
| Nah. | ||
| Connor's... | ||
| What you think Connor gonna do? | ||
| Whatever he wants. | ||
| Probably do a lot of coke. | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| You know what's crazy? | ||
| I'm just kidding. | ||
| I think he's going to have some fun, man. | ||
| If he finds a fight that's fun, he's got $100 million in the bank. | ||
| If he finds a fight that's fun, he's going to do it. | ||
| The problem with him is they wanted him to do cowboy, and there was some talk about him doing a cowboy fight, but he wanted it to be a main event. | ||
| The UFC wants main events to all be big time championship fights. | ||
| Anything Conor do is big time. | ||
| That's what I said! | ||
| But they think that somehow or another having no championship title on the line, it wouldn't be that valuable. | ||
| I would love to spend a day in a life with Dana White. | ||
| Well, Justin Gate... | ||
| I don't think he'd let you do that. | ||
| You don't think so? | ||
| Conflict of interest? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because they've got their own thing. | ||
| They've got UFC embedded. | ||
| That sucks, because I really want to do the anatomy of Dana White, just hanging out with him for a day. | ||
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Maybe. | |
| Who knows? | ||
| Maybe it would help Embedded and maybe it would help the Tuesday Night Contender series. | ||
| It would help pump that up. | ||
| Eric Albarison said the perfect thing. | ||
| He said, why would the UFC be worried about you? | ||
| You like a lemonade stand and they Coca-Cola. | ||
| Well, I think that way, but some people don't. | ||
| Some people don't want to help other things get going. | ||
| But I'm promoting them. | ||
| But what if you stop promoting them and just really concentrate on Bellator and the channel's gigantic now because you did so much UFC content. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| That's how people look at things. | ||
| Well, you know, my first idea was to tell the UFC, let me just film all the fighters. | ||
| Y'all not going to promote this fight week. | ||
| So embedded is 10 other fighters. | ||
| Let anatomy and fighter get them. | ||
| Give me a credential and let me just film them all week. | ||
| So I'm around film these fighters that y'all never going to post. | ||
| What did they say about that? | ||
| Not interested. | ||
| Nah, I didn't get a not interested, but I don't know. | ||
| It's weird because I... Much love to the UFC because they give me a lot of access and I love every single person over there. | ||
| Like Dean Klein and Heidi Dean. | ||
| All those people, I love them. | ||
| They treat me like an annoying cousin. | ||
| They're great people. | ||
| I'm an annoying cousin when I'm at Fight Week. | ||
| And that's the thing. | ||
| I haven't been to a lot of Fight Weeks, but it seems like people think I go to every Fight Week and it's like, I only go to ones I can afford... | ||
| Or they make sense? | ||
| Like, if I had the funds, I'd be at every Fight Week filming. | ||
| Are you going to be in Vegas for the John Jones, Tiago Santos fight? | ||
| Yeah, because I'm nominated for an award against you. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| For what? | ||
| The World MMA Awards. | ||
| What's the award? | ||
| Best MMA Programming. | ||
| WorldMMAawards.com. | ||
| Oh, for the JRE MMA show? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Now you're on it. | ||
| How crazy is that? | ||
| I know, that's so weird. | ||
| That is so weird. | ||
| I told you, Confessions of an Online Data was the way I thought I was going to end up on here. | ||
| Well, I hope you win. | ||
| I won a bunch of those MMA awards. | ||
| It's me, you, and Bet It, Dana White's Tuesday Contender Series, and then MMA Hour. | ||
| I hope you win. | ||
| Against me. | ||
| How about that? | ||
| That'd be a... | ||
| That'd be... | ||
| I'd smoke weed if I did. | ||
| I'll be like, I'm done, I'm done. | ||
| Listen, I understand your reluctance to smoke weed. | ||
| I smoked weed maybe five, six times until I was 30 years old. | ||
| Like a handful of times, ever. | ||
| Like a couple times in high school, you know, a couple times afterwards at parties. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| I mean, I get it, the whole personality thing. | ||
| When I was 30 years old, that's when I started smoking, like really started smoking weed. | ||
| And I don't think... | ||
| I don't think anybody should do anything if they have an obsessive personality and they're worried about getting locked into it. | ||
| I mean, I don't think you should drink. | ||
| But if you can handle it, a little bit of weed, I think, opens up these doorways of creativity. | ||
| And I think that it's very valuable. | ||
| I told you, that's what Cowboy told me. | ||
| Cowboy told me. | ||
| About mushrooms. | ||
| Mushrooms as well. | ||
| I think psychedelic drugs, whether they're marijuana or mushrooms, they're tools. | ||
| And the way I've always described it is, like, you could take a tool and you could build a house with it, right? | ||
| You could take a hammer and you could build a beautiful deck. | ||
| Or you could just hit yourself in the dick if you're fucking crazy. | ||
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| You could abuse a tool. | ||
| But it doesn't mean the tool's bad. | ||
| It means the application's bad. | ||
| And you don't give a hammer to a two-year-old, right? | ||
| You don't give a little kid weed and tell him to smoke it every day. | ||
| But I think for a grown adult, it's good to participate in something that gives you an altered state of consciousness because it allows you to look at yourself in a fresh way. | ||
| And for someone who's always like... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's hard for you to look at yourself to find the things that you're doing wrong. | ||
| So if you can't find the things that you're doing wrong, it's very difficult to grow. | ||
| So a lot of people call that paranoia, that effect that marijuana produces. | ||
| I don't like smoking pot, man. | ||
| It makes me paranoid. | ||
| That paranoia, I think, is awareness. | ||
| And I think you close those doors of awareness in order to get through your life. | ||
| But the subconscious is always aware of these things. | ||
| The subconscious is always aware of these things that are fucking with you. | ||
| Marijuana just finds all the problems and just turns the lights on. | ||
| So if I move to Denver, I'll probably end up smoking weed. | ||
| Everybody's smoking weed. | ||
| If you do it, just a little. | ||
| What about an edible? | ||
| Edibles, careful. | ||
| I heard like a cookie. | ||
| They'll fuck you up. | ||
| I heard a cookie will destroy you. | ||
| I got some cookies that'll put you on the moon. | ||
| Rashad Evans, that's like my big brother. | ||
| He always told me about the toad. | ||
| Oh, 5-methoxy-dimethyltryptamine. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, that'll fuck you up too. | ||
| Oh, he's done that now, right? | ||
| He said, yeah, you can go into another dimension. | ||
| Oh, you literally can. | ||
| I might be the president of the United States in the other dimension. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| Well, there's no United States in that other dimension. | ||
| There's no states. | ||
| There's no people. | ||
| There's souls. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| Go into like a well of souls. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Disembodied entities. | ||
| The toad. | ||
| I remember when I kept... | ||
| What the hell is you talking about? | ||
| The toad. | ||
| The toad. | ||
| Nobody gets it from a toad though. | ||
| They're really... | ||
| 5-methoxy-dimethyltryptamine they get usually from laboratories. | ||
| And so they synthesize with a bunch of precursors. | ||
| But the... | ||
| The other one, NN-dimethyltryptamine, is the one we see the visuals. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And how long it lasts? | ||
| 15 minutes, unless you eat it. | ||
| If you eat it with ayahuasca. | ||
| What if you did it in a float tank? | ||
| You could do that. | ||
| You'd have to do it quick. | ||
| Have you seen the float tank here? | ||
| Yeah, remember? | ||
| Oh, that's right. | ||
| Have you done it yet? | ||
| Nope. | ||
| You've got to. | ||
| I've seen how expensive it was online. | ||
| How expensive? | ||
| I've seen some. | ||
| Oh, to buy one? | ||
| Buy one. | ||
| There's the float lab. | ||
| They have a place in Westwood. | ||
| They have a place in Venice. | ||
| And then there's a giant place that opened up in Pasadena that uses all the float labs. | ||
| What was the name of that place again? | ||
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Justin. | |
| Just Float. | ||
| Just Float. | ||
| And that place has... | ||
| That is the biggest float establishment on earth. | ||
| And you do it for how long? | ||
| Well, last night I did two hours. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| I like two hours. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I like to just get in there and find out what the fuck's up. | ||
| When I was with Chito Verda the other day, one of his teammates did it for like an hour, and he was just like... | ||
| I didn't know where I was. | ||
| Was I asleep in a dream? | ||
| It was just crazy. | ||
| You're disembodied. | ||
| You know Charlemagne. | ||
| Charlemagne the God. | ||
| He was on last week and we were talking about it because he's doing this whole mental wellness retreat sort of center. | ||
| He's establishing these mental wellness centers. | ||
| He is? | ||
| Yes, he is. | ||
| Because Charlemagne, his new book, Shook One, is all about his anxiety, his issues with anxiety. | ||
| And, you know, anything that allows you to relax and just center yourself can help you with anxiety. | ||
| And, you know, that's one of the things that he said about the tank was that he's never felt stillness like that. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because you're not feeling your body. | ||
| You know, your body is just... | ||
| You can try it right now if you want. | ||
| He had a crazy life. | ||
| Yeah, he had a crazy life. | ||
| Yeah, he had a crazy life. | ||
| And also, like I said to him about... | ||
| He's the last samurai in terms of radio. | ||
| Radio is a dying industry. | ||
| He's the last guy, I think, to get famous off of radio. | ||
| Yeah, that's... | ||
| Charlamagne Tha God is... | ||
| I saw a little bit of it and I remember he said that he was literally... | ||
| He got fired at 31. He was 31, no job. | ||
| With a two-year-old. | ||
| And that's what... | ||
| That stuff is inspiring because people be... | ||
| I wasn't unemployed at... | ||
| I was like 29 when I was lost and then I was turning 30 and that's when I got my shit together. | ||
| So... | ||
| To hear Charlemagne and God say, I was 31, I had a kid, and I was no job. | ||
| I think so many people in life are so obsessed with getting somewhere fast. | ||
| And I understand it takes time. | ||
| And just to see somebody like that be open enough to say, I was at a low moment in my life. | ||
| Like... | ||
| At my age now, I used to think when I was 25, 37 was young or old. | ||
| Old as fuck. | ||
| You're young as hell. | ||
| You're not old at 37 no more. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You've never been. | ||
| Especially if you're a healthy 37. Yeah. | ||
| When we were kids, our parents, by the time they were 37, they're working 12 hours a day and they're exhausted. | ||
| They felt 50. They probably felt a lot older than that. | ||
| They felt 50. I mean, thank God to the internet. | ||
| I mean, because if it wasn't for the internet... | ||
| I wouldn't be able to put up these amazing videos. | ||
| I would have to go work for one of these companies. | ||
| Well, it's also the internet allows you to get all this information that allows you to stay healthy. | ||
| You get a better understanding about diet, nutrition, mental health, relaxation, how important meditation is. | ||
| You know, and I think one of the other things that Charlamagne did that's very important is he talked openly about anxiety. | ||
| And he's a famous, cool guy. | ||
| He's like a famous guy known for his opinions, known for being brash. | ||
| And for him to say, hey, I've struggled. | ||
| I've had real mental struggles and mental health struggles. | ||
| That's a very fragile conversation in the black community. | ||
| Mental health issues and anxiety and things like that. | ||
| People don't want to admit it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because you want to be machismo, tough it out. | ||
| Yeah, you want to feel brave. | ||
| And for me, man, I felt... | ||
| Hopeless and defeat many times in my life. | ||
| Sure, me too. | ||
| And luckily for me, sometimes I say, damn, I don't have kids. | ||
| Luckily, I've been able to figure it out on my own without having a responsibility to take care of somebody, right? | ||
| So I've been lucky in that sense where I haven't had a child, a son, a daughter. | ||
| And that gives me youth. | ||
| It feels like every day I wake up, I'm like, I can do what I want to do because the only person I'm responsible for is me. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that gives me the freedom to be a gypsy. | ||
| I couldn't be a gypsy if I had it. | ||
| No, not the life that you have. | ||
| Nah. | ||
| But you know what? | ||
| If you had a kid, you would just alter that life and you would take great comfort in the fact that you love someone deeply, like a child. | ||
| It's a crazy thing, the love you have for children. | ||
| It changes people's lives. | ||
| It changes who you are. | ||
| When he had his daughter, when he's carrying his daughter in a cage, it's so hard for me not to cry. | ||
| It's so hard for me not to cry when people win and they start thanking their mom or their parents hug them. | ||
| It's like when he was holding his daughter up, I'm like, oh, Jesus, here it comes. | ||
| I'm just trying to fight it back. | ||
| That was crazy. | ||
| Listen, man. | ||
| Remember when he got in trouble for the 30% or people going in on him because he was like, I'm 30%. | ||
| I was 30%. | ||
| The thing that I can say about being around these fighters, I see all the injuries and everything and people don't understand what they do in the fight. | ||
| How about the fact that Usman went into that fight with a broken foot? | ||
| I know. | ||
| I've seen it. | ||
| How crazy is that? | ||
| He had a broken foot when he fought Tyron motherfucking Woodley and he never stopped coming. | ||
| Never stopped moving forward. | ||
| You would never have been able to guess by any stretch of the imagination that he was injured. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I did because I filmed it all. | ||
| You knew it. | ||
| I knew it. | ||
| I just can't release it. | ||
| You see what I'm saying? | ||
| I'm not going to... | ||
| Now, after the fight, I can say, yeah, he was injured. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But I have that on so many fighters. | ||
| Cejudo, everybody like... | ||
| Well, how about Cejudo's ankle? | ||
| I know. | ||
| How crazy is that? | ||
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That was crazy. | |
| Cejudo's ankle, the week of the fight, was giant black and blue. | ||
| Completely fucked up. | ||
| Where he couldn't walk. | ||
| And then he goes in there and fucks up Marlon Marais. | ||
| Well... | ||
| The Khabib-Connor fight, didn't they say he had like a... | ||
| Connor had something wrong with his foot too. | ||
| Or Khabib had a problem with his weight cut, I heard. | ||
| Did he? | ||
| I think so. | ||
| It was a bad weight cut. | ||
| Khabib is so big. | ||
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He's another guy. | |
| He's a mountain man. | ||
| What is his diet like? | ||
| It's clean from what I see. | ||
| But he's had problems making weight in the past. | ||
| But that was 209. Think about that. | ||
| How long ago that was. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| UFC 209. Yeah. | ||
| That was the last time he ever had a problem. | ||
| But it's, you know, he had problems before that though. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I didn't know. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I didn't even know Khabib at 209. Oh, really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That was when the first UFC event I ever went to. | ||
| Does he have a nutritionist? | ||
| Like in Dagestan? | ||
| Does he have someone that cooks for him? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But do you eat with him? | ||
| Yeah, but that was Ramadan. | ||
| We was eating all meat and potatoes and I sat with everybody and ate every time. | ||
| And does he train during Ramadan? | ||
| Yes, he did. | ||
| That was the whole Dagestan Chronicles. | ||
| People couldn't believe it. | ||
| He trained, trained too. | ||
| So he trained, trained during the day? | ||
| Without eating. | ||
| Without drinking water? | ||
| Crazy, man. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| I'm talking about really hard too. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| No drinking water. | ||
| Yeah, I want to turn that whole series into a movie. | ||
| I can understand kind of being able to work out like fasted workouts. | ||
| Nah. | ||
| But fucking no water? | ||
| Like training. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| And playing that basketball. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Like, with no water, no nothing. | ||
| That is so crazy. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| That mental toughness. | ||
| Like, and then when I've seen a face-off with him and Dustin, because Dustin, I would love to document Dustin because he is a good guy. | ||
| Um... | ||
| I thought Dustin was huge when you just see him with everybody else. | ||
| And then when he did the face-off with Khabib, I'm like, damn, Khabib taller than him. | ||
| Everything. | ||
| I'm thinking like, man. | ||
| He's going to have to keep that guy off him. | ||
| Khabib is just such a good wrestler. | ||
| But Ferguson said it perfect. | ||
| He's going to grab him, put him on the ground, mount him like that dummy and smash him. | ||
| Now, I'm not a fighter, so I can't say it. | ||
| But I kind of feel like... | ||
| I always call Uzman a black Khabib. | ||
| Because as soon as he grabs you, the fight over. | ||
| That's how I feel. | ||
| As soon as he grabs you... | ||
| It's over. | ||
| Because you're not going to get away from him anymore. | ||
| I'm latched to you. | ||
| But that Damien Maia fight, that referee saved his ass. | ||
| I know, I was in a locker room. | ||
| You never know. | ||
| You never know what would happen. | ||
| The world could have changed if that referee, whoever the fuck he is, I don't even want to know his name. | ||
| Last Maia fight, see how he took the back? | ||
| Yep, that's what he does. | ||
| Against Lyman Good. | ||
| That's what he does to everybody, man. | ||
| And that referee separated them. | ||
| And I was sick. | ||
| And Matt Serra went fucking crazy about it. | ||
| And I was with him. | ||
| That was a tough one. | ||
| But you don't do that. | ||
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I asked Usman. | |
| That guy doesn't understand fighting. | ||
| I said, what would have happened? | ||
| He said, I would have just held it there the whole time. | ||
| But you just never know. | ||
| Well, that's how he lost his first fight. | ||
| He lost his first fight by getting choked out. | ||
| I know. | ||
| You know, this is something that people don't know. | ||
| So Usman got one fight that he's lost. | ||
| Kobe Covenant has one fight that he's lost. | ||
| I'm all about stories. | ||
| Like the storyline. | ||
| So the only fight that... | ||
| Kobe Covington lost to was what? | ||
| Leon Edwards? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| He choked him out, right? | ||
| Short notice fight that he took in the UFC and he was injured. | ||
| He had something fucked up with his ribs. | ||
| So he lost via choke. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Usman beat Leon Edwards. | ||
| The guy that Usman lost to early on, Kobe Covington beat. | ||
| So both of their losses are to people. | ||
| That's just a weird storyline. | ||
| Yeah, but that's MMA math. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| But no, I'm not comparing them. | ||
| I'm just saying that the fact that they both got one loss and they supposedly hate each other and it's two people they've beat. | ||
| It is crazy how fighters' careers just change. | ||
| They become a different person. | ||
| And whoever they are, like, four years ago, you really can't compare them to whoever they are now. | ||
| The Colby Covington thing is interesting because he really did beat the shit out of Damian Maia. | ||
| You know, and, you know, he really did beat the shit out of Rafael dos Anjos. | ||
| I don't know if Damian Maia was three rounds. | ||
| I feel like it was a main event. | ||
| You might be right, though. | ||
| No, it was three rounds. | ||
| Three rounds. | ||
| Yeah, because it was in Brazil. | ||
| Rafael dos Anjos was five rounds. | ||
| Yeah, that was, yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But Dos Anjos won two rounds, right? | ||
| Three to two? | ||
| Did he? | ||
| I think on the scorecards. | ||
| He took them down and everything. | ||
| Yeah, he did. | ||
| Not with Camaro. | ||
| No, it was brutal. | ||
| That level change that Camaro do, that level threatening to take down, he will piece you up because Henry, who's got his striking, crazy. | ||
| And it's getting better. | ||
| Oh, for sure. | ||
| He did fantastic against Woodley. | ||
| He had Woodley in real trouble from striking. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Willie looks good in his comeback trails, though, too. | ||
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All the training footage that he's doing, he's very dedicated. | |
| Willie didn't want me to film him the week of the fight. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Just game and shit. | ||
| Dean Thomas came over to me and said, hey, man, Willie don't want you to film him. | ||
| It's another distraction. | ||
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| And I get it. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| I was mad. | ||
| I was kind of... | ||
| I wouldn't say mad. | ||
| I was butthurt because I like Woody. | ||
| I'm like, come on, man. | ||
| I've been filming you all week and then all of a sudden, day before the fight, hey. | ||
| In his head, he doesn't want anything there, you know? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| He just wants to... | ||
| I mean, he had so many distractions. | ||
| He released a fucking album with Wiz Khalifa. | ||
| He was touring. | ||
| He had rap videos, slapping asses. | ||
| Yeah, and he's doing this fucking TMZ Hollywood shit that he does. | ||
| He does a lot of shit. | ||
| But I like that he does a lot of shit because he's recognizing that he's going to have a time outside of fighting. | ||
| Yeah, you got to have a post life. | ||
| And he's got a real opportunity to make something happen forever. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, he's a smart guy. | ||
| Inspirational guy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Listen. | ||
| Listen. | ||
| I have none, but listen, I love, after the fight with, you know, Willie, mom. | ||
| That was amazing. | ||
| I love, I like Willie, his team. | ||
| His mom, when his mom was talking, me and Usman were both tearing up, because, like, we were talking about it and we played it. | ||
| I mean, his mom just goes over and embraces Camaro, and Camaro's crying, and, you know, his mom was like, they're coming for you, baby. | ||
| They're coming for you. | ||
| You better be prepared for it. | ||
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Oh, man. | |
| Mama Woodley. | ||
| Look, got tears in your eyes right now. | ||
| That's the sport, man. | ||
| The sport is this emotions and soul in this sport. | ||
| It's not just the winning and losing. | ||
| It's like your life is on the line. | ||
| So imagine what I feel when I'm documenting this. | ||
| You're right next to them. | ||
| Because say a journalist that got to work for a show, they're reporting, they're interviewing guys. | ||
| I'm in the gym with these guys every day. | ||
| I'm literally sweating in the gym with these guys, going with them to eat, going to stay the night, sleeping on their couch. | ||
| I'm doing all of that stuff to be next to these guys. | ||
| But you know why you're doing that, Will? | ||
| Because it's yours. | ||
| This is all yours. | ||
| You're doing this. | ||
| You're not working for some fucking company. | ||
| You got some asshole producer who's telling you what to do. | ||
| It wouldn't be the same, man. | ||
| You wouldn't get that vision. | ||
| I wouldn't do it. | ||
| Not only would you not do it, you wouldn't be as motivated, but more importantly, it wouldn't be the singular vision that you get when you know that it's coming from one person. | ||
| When you know something's coming from one person, you get a feeling. | ||
| This is Will Harris. | ||
| He's there. | ||
| He's filming this. | ||
| He's editing it. | ||
| He's putting it together. | ||
| He's putting it out. | ||
| Here's the video. | ||
| That's a beautiful thing about the internet, man. | ||
| Yeah, it really is. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| It really is. | ||
| It doesn't exist in any other media. | ||
| There's nothing like that. | ||
| There's nothing like that ever in the history of the world. | ||
| If you wanted to put out something like you've done, you needed a gang of people behind you. | ||
| You needed a network. | ||
| A production company. | ||
| You need someone to choose you. | ||
| There's probably four other guys that wanted to do what you're doing. | ||
| Five other guys. | ||
| Ten. | ||
| A dozen. | ||
| Everybody wants it. | ||
| And they have to pick you. | ||
| And then these other guys would be trying to, like, fuck you up from behind. | ||
| It happens. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It happens. | ||
| And that's what I listen. | ||
| I try to portray that message to every single person that messaged me. | ||
| This is not easy. | ||
| Like, it's a lot of sacrifice in this. | ||
| You have to be willing to put in years to do this. | ||
| I'm going on two years. | ||
| And August 14th will be full two years of committing to anatomy of a fighter. | ||
| And it's a baby stage to me. | ||
| Because of what I know it can become. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You can have millions of subscribers. | ||
| I firmly, firmly believe that. | ||
| So, to me, I'm like, you know what? | ||
| I'm not going to stop, no matter what. | ||
| I'm not going to stop. | ||
| I want this to be the biggest thing ever. | ||
| I want a guy that's not even on the radar right now. | ||
| I want to discover him and then he become a heavyweight champion in the world or a UFC champion or a Bellator champion. | ||
| And that's the thing that I get out of it all is the fact that... | ||
| I can just create what I want with whoever. | ||
| I thought about it the other day. | ||
| I was like, man, I need to put more women on the channel, women fighters, and promote more women. | ||
| Because I feel like they don't get promoted as well. | ||
| I want to get Amanda Nunes. | ||
| Ashley Yoder, I was supposed to go with her and Dan Henderson in Temecula. | ||
| I wish I could have got them on. | ||
| But that's the type of stuff. | ||
| Because it's the freedom to do it. | ||
| They don't have to pay me. | ||
| I just go do it and make it and put it out there. | ||
| And hopefully somebody latches on and say, we want to be a part of this movement. | ||
| You need to do something on Valentina Shevchenko. | ||
| And her sister. | ||
| They are some beasts. | ||
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She scares the shit out of me. | |
| I just want to film her doing that little dance. | ||
| I know. | ||
| It's crazy, right? | ||
| That fucking head kick on Jessica Ai. | ||
| I was supposed to go get her. | ||
| Eric Nixit, her coach. | ||
| She was like, I'll come down to Vegas and get Jessica Ai. | ||
| That was a tough one. | ||
| I like Jessica Ai. | ||
| She took it well, though. | ||
| She took it well, but she was severely outclassed. | ||
| That was a bad matchup. | ||
| There's levels. | ||
| Well, I don't think there's a level higher than Valentina. | ||
| There's people on her level, but there's no level higher. | ||
| That was a little... | ||
| Debatable match against Nunez, the second one, right? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| She could have won that. | ||
| People say she should have won. | ||
| Very, very close fight. | ||
| But Nunez is a bigger girl. | ||
| Nunez is a legit 135er. | ||
| She's not going to make 125. And when she knocked out Cyborg, everybody was like, what in the fuck? | ||
| She flatlined Cyborg. | ||
| And she's chomping at the bit to do it again. | ||
| She's like, set it up again, I'll do it again. | ||
| What do you think? | ||
| If Cyborg left the UFC, where did she go? | ||
| One FC maybe. | ||
| But what fighters is over there? | ||
| They'll get some fighters for her. | ||
| They'll find some. | ||
| There's some Muay Thai champions that'll fight her. | ||
| There's some badass women. | ||
| I talked to Cyborg. | ||
| She wants that fight bad. | ||
| The Amanda Nunes fight? | ||
| Yeah, she want it bad. | ||
| I'm sure she does. | ||
| It might happen the same way. | ||
| Because it was Rock'em Sock'em Robots. | ||
| It was Rock'em Sock'em Robots, but only one person was Rock'em. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| From her end. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| She was moving towards, and Amanda was just doing the perfect thing to deal with that style. | ||
| I thought it was gonna be a harder fight. | ||
| I thought if Amanda was going to beat her, it was going to be by decision. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| I really did. | ||
| So you were shocked. | ||
| I didn't think she was going to flatline her. | ||
| Cyborg always gets up. | ||
| She fought Jarena Barge in Lion Fight, who's a world-class, top-of-the-food-chain Muay Thai fighter, and she didn't have a single Muay Thai fight. | ||
| And Barge knocked her down twice, and Cyborg was chasing her to the last second of the bell. | ||
| And she just seemed so durable. | ||
| I just never thought we'd see her faceplant. | ||
| Amanda Nunes hits like she's got bricks in her gloves. | ||
| She just drops those fucking bricks on her. | ||
| And the nicest person in the world. | ||
| You would never think she'd fall. | ||
| So nice. | ||
| And when her and Cyborg were talking all that shit, she seemed cool and calm and just you wait, just you wait. | ||
| She just knows, man. | ||
| When she fucked up Ronda Rousey like that, I was like, good lord. | ||
| That was a fight where I remember the run up to that fight. | ||
| That was one of the first fights when WAME bought the UFC. And they were really promoting the shit out of Ronda Rousey. | ||
| Ronda was like walking around some big mansion looking at the TV and And they were going to say this is the big comeback fight. | ||
| And I was like, you guys should be paying attention to your first ever openly gay UFC champion who happens to be a fucking murderer. | ||
| Happens to be a chick that murked Misha Tate. | ||
| Happens to be a chick that flatlines people. | ||
| She's probably one of the hardest punchers in any women's combat sport. | ||
| I mean, fuck, man. | ||
| She hits fucking hard. | ||
| You... | ||
| You know, you gotta go back to Ann Wolfe's one-punch KO in boxing to see a woman who hits a beast. | ||
| But you gotta go to that to see a woman who hits that hard. | ||
| And Amanda loves to fight, man. | ||
| You see, she loves it. | ||
| She fucking loves it. | ||
| She feeds off of it. | ||
| And when they were setting that fight up, And they weren't giving Amanda Nunes any credit. | ||
| And they weren't promoting her at all. | ||
| I'm like, you guys are crazy. | ||
| This is a bad fight for Ronda. | ||
| This is a bad fight. | ||
| Because first of all, that chick's a Brazilian jiu-jitsu black belt. | ||
| Ronda's not going to submit her. | ||
| And she's probably not going to get a dominant position on her. | ||
| And when they're standing up on the feet, this chick is going to throw bricks. | ||
| And it's not a good place for Ronda. | ||
| Yeah, that was like, it looked bad. | ||
| 48 seconds. | ||
| The stumbling, how she was stumbling. | ||
| Well, you know, there was a lot wrong there. | ||
| A lot wrong there. | ||
| Motivation-wise, a lot wrong there. | ||
| To go from the Holly Holm KO straight to that. | ||
| Should have had a warm-up fight, right? | ||
| For sure. | ||
| I mean, there's a reason why boxing has warm-up fights. | ||
| What is the percentage? | ||
| Do you give Holly Holm a chance against Nunes? | ||
| Well, Holly Holm's a world-class fighter. | ||
| You know, you got to give her a chance to get anybody. | ||
| She survived against Jermaine Durandamy, knocked her down. | ||
| And Jermaine Durandamy is a legit world champion Muay Thai fighter as well. | ||
| Was that the fight with the late after the... | ||
| Yes, twice she got hit after the belt. | ||
| She should have got a point taken and she would have won. | ||
| I think she won that fight. | ||
| I think she won anyway. | ||
| Anyway, yeah. | ||
| She dropped her twice. | ||
| She dropped her with a straight left and she dropped her with a question mark kick. | ||
| I thought she won that fight. | ||
| But... | ||
| Amanda's just a fucking murderer, man. | ||
| It's hard to pick against Amanda. | ||
| Imagine if Holly shocked the world twice. | ||
| She could. | ||
| Look, she could, man. | ||
| I like her, too, man. | ||
| She's an amazing person. | ||
| She hates the cameras. | ||
| Does she? | ||
| She won't let me film her. | ||
| Why? | ||
| She won't let nobody film her. | ||
| Just distractions? | ||
| She just don't like it. | ||
| That's interesting. | ||
| And that's one of the girls I would love to do. | ||
| You know, because this is fun for me, so I'm like, I would love to just get this person on and be able to let the world get to know this fighter, right? | ||
| Like, I get it from their perspective, though, because it is a distraction. | ||
| It's another thing, another factor to consider. | ||
| Some people don't mind it. | ||
| I bet Henry Cejudo probably likes it. | ||
| Yeah, in a way. | ||
| I've gotten away from going to fight week because it's kind of the same thing. | ||
| I've done it a lot. | ||
| So I like to just go way before a fight and just document this stuff and then release it during the fight week. | ||
| What is it like at Bad Motherfucker Ranch? | ||
| Donald Cowboy's place. | ||
| I haven't been there yet. | ||
| I've only been to Jackson's. | ||
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| Listen. | ||
| I gotta go there for like a week and just be with him and shilling. | ||
| That's the place to go because they're all doing mushrooms. | ||
| Jumping jet skis off the top of the building. | ||
| Eating fresh eggs. | ||
| Eating stuff like that. | ||
| I would love to do that. | ||
| Cowboy is... | ||
| Cowboy is one of them people... | ||
| If you see his face, you think he's mean. | ||
| Like sometimes. | ||
| But he's the coolest dude I've ever seen. | ||
| He's been nice. | ||
| Man! | ||
| He's so nice. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| When him and Mike Perry fought... | ||
| I had access to Mike Perry that fight week. | ||
| And I reached out to Cowboy's team and said, I want to be neutral on this and film both of y'all that week. | ||
| And Cowboy said, yeah, no problem. | ||
| So he let me hang with him. | ||
| I was with Perry after the fight. | ||
| They met, they talked, I had that little famous moment where they met, and Cowboy was like, you lit the fire in me. | ||
| And Perry was like, what? | ||
| He was like, you, talking all that shit, lit the fire in me. | ||
| When he made that Instagram video, he was like, I'm coming for you. | ||
| Yeah, all that stuff. | ||
| So that's probably one of the... | ||
| If people ask me what my favorite moment is, it's probably the Mike Perry week because I had both of them. | ||
| And then I had the raw emotion of Mike Perry after he lost in the locker room. | ||
| He looked at the sky and was like, damn God, you couldn't let me out the first round? | ||
| He's like, damn, it was embarrassing, right? | ||
| Terry's a funny guy, man. | ||
| He is. | ||
| He's a character. | ||
| He can do anything, I feel like. | ||
| I mean, he's going to get better in fighting. | ||
| He can be in movies. | ||
| Well, he's gotten better since the move to Jackson's. | ||
| He really has. | ||
| He's gotten more calculated. | ||
| Went back where? | ||
| To Fusion XL in Florida. | ||
| He went back to his original team after the Cowboy fight. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| I wonder why. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I have no clue. | ||
| But he's not at Jackson's anymore. | ||
| He's at... | ||
| Fusion exit. | ||
| Well, I'm not aware of Fusion. | ||
| I don't know if they have good trainers or anything like that. | ||
| That's where Jacare trained. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| I like what they were doing for him, though, at Jackson's. | ||
| I like how they were giving him a more measured... | ||
| Frank Lester, man. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| They're giving him a more calculated approach, making him fight more intelligently, more of a game plan, because he's always going to be wild, and he's always going to have that power. | ||
| That Paul Felder fight. | ||
| Yeah, that was wild! | ||
| That was wild. | ||
| But if I wanted to see that fight, if Felder, first of all, Felder's a different weight class, but if Felder didn't throw that spinning back fist and bounce it off his forehead and snap his arm in half... | ||
| They should run it back, huh? | ||
| Well, I don't think Felder should be fighting 170. Because I don't think Perry has a chance in hell of making 155. But Felder can. | ||
| Till versus Perry is a good one. | ||
| That's a great fight. | ||
| And they hate each other. | ||
| I like that. | ||
| Especially after Till coming off getting knocked out by Masvidal. | ||
| Two losses in a row. | ||
| So that's a great fight for him. | ||
| Two losses in a row, but the big one. | ||
| The big one was Masvidal. | ||
| Because Masvidal flatlined him. | ||
| I thought that was a disrespectful The way they had set it up where the bookies had set it up where Tyron Woodley was the underdog. | ||
| I was like, you guys are out of your fucking mind. | ||
| You're out of your fucking mind. | ||
| I don't know what hype you're buying into them. | ||
| We've never seen this guy on the ground. | ||
| We've never seen this guy with a guy like Woodley. | ||
| Woodley hits hard. | ||
| He hits ridiculously hard. | ||
| He's so fast. | ||
| And wrestling-wise, I mean, it's not even close. | ||
| I thought that was crazy. | ||
| I'm like, yeah, he beat Cowboy. | ||
| Yeah, he looked great. | ||
| Yeah, he beat Wonderboy. | ||
| But, you know, I mean, it was a fight where he clipped Wonderboy with one really good shot. | ||
| You know, he hit him with one really good shot and a good five-round fight. | ||
| I wouldn't call him a hype train. | ||
| But I feel like promotions, they did it with Pico. | ||
| Now he got two straight losses. | ||
| Well, you get excited about a guy because a guy has something special. | ||
| And sometimes those guys that have something special, they never... | ||
| Like Uriah Hall never really became what everybody thought he was going to become. | ||
| We saw Uriah Hall in The Ultimate Fighter. | ||
| We're like, holy shit, this is the next Anderson Silva. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, look at this guy. | ||
| Wheel-kicking people in the head. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's built like a Greek god. | ||
| He moves like a fucking gazelle. | ||
| He just had this perfect style. | ||
| Like, holy shit, look at this guy. | ||
| But never quite became who we thought. | ||
| And then the Paulo Costa fight. | ||
| You see him getting beaten down by Costa. | ||
| He was fucking him up, though, at first with the jabs. | ||
| Yeah, the jabs. | ||
| Paulo Costa can take it, man. | ||
| Yeah, I was just like... | ||
| Him versus Yoel Romero. | ||
| Good googly moogly. | ||
| Is that a crazy fight? | ||
| That's here. | ||
| That's gonna be in California. | ||
| Anaheim. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Woo! | |
| With Nate and Pettis. | ||
| That's the battle of the best bodies ever. | ||
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Those two guys. | |
| He inspired me. | ||
| How you look like that still at 40-something years old? | ||
| He's got the freak genetics, man. | ||
| He talked about it on the podcast. | ||
| He's like, go look Cuba! | ||
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Everybody look like that! | |
| He was saying that everybody looked like that. | ||
| Just amazing genetics. | ||
| And then Costa. | ||
| Well, it's also like when you think about what Yoel has gone through, that Cuban wrestling program, man. | ||
| They just call everyone who's not an elite five-star super A-plus athlete. | ||
| You ain't making it. | ||
| He was telling me that the people that are the best, they eat more. | ||
| They get better food and they eat more. | ||
| And they sleep in better places. | ||
| And they set it up. | ||
| Well, you're training with all these other people that want what you have. | ||
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Wow. | |
| So you're around them all the time. | ||
| Have you seen that podcast? | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| That's what Joey was with. | ||
| Joey is the translator with Yoel. | ||
| Did he speak some English? | ||
| Yeah, he speaks a little. | ||
| But, you know, he needs help and Joey would help him. | ||
| I never met him. | ||
| Yoel? | ||
| No, I haven't met him yet. | ||
| He's a great guy. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He's super friendly. | ||
| And, man, he does shit to people inside the octagon. | ||
| You think he's going to get any of that money? | ||
| Oh, the $27 million from the supplement company? | ||
| People don't know what we're talking about. | ||
| He won a lawsuit against the supplement company, just like we were talking about before with Sean O'Malley. | ||
| They gave him tainted supplements, and he won $27 million. | ||
| It's a big company. | ||
| See, we thought that it was a smaller company that would just go under, but this is a big fucking company. | ||
| And, you know, their company makes $100 million a year, and they owe him $27. | ||
| Can you settle out of a settle? | ||
| Like, the judgment was $27 million, but could they be like, oh, we gave you $10? | ||
| That's a good question. | ||
| I don't know how that works. | ||
| If they do, you probably could take that and then sue them for the other $17. | ||
| Because you have it. | ||
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| You gave me $10. | ||
| I think they're supposed to pay $27 million. | ||
| I just don't. | ||
| I think they have to go bankrupt. | ||
| He should never fight again. | ||
| Well, maybe he wants to, though. | ||
| He wants to be the champ, you know? | ||
| He's got a legit shot. | ||
| I think he beat Whitaker in the last fight. | ||
| That's what I was going to say. | ||
| I think he won. | ||
| What about Rockhold going to light heavyweight? | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| The way he smashed Rockhold in that fight, I was like, good lord. | ||
| Then he kissed him. | ||
| Yeah, he kissed him after he flatlined him. | ||
| Rockhold was talking all kinds of shit. | ||
| But Rockhold said it was like hitting someone who was made out of steel. | ||
| He said he was so fucking hard. | ||
| Yeah, Rockhold told me that I've never felt a human like that in my life. | ||
| That super five-star elite athlete. | ||
| That's what that is. | ||
| That is as elite as you get. | ||
| When that guy goes into the cage and you see him move around, it's like, jeez. | ||
| That neck? | ||
| No neck? | ||
| You go, how the fuck is he 185 pounds? | ||
| Dude, I weigh 200 pounds. | ||
| How the fuck is Yoel Romero 185 pounds? | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Insane. | ||
| I've seen a side-by-side with him and Khabib when they were younger. | ||
| And I was just like, man, this dude is massive. | ||
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He's giant! | |
| Khabib is a bear. | ||
| Yeah, Khabib is thick as fuck, but Yoel's on another level. | ||
| Freaking, like, he a gargoyle. | ||
| He, like, built, like, a little gargoyle or something. | ||
| Well, when he knocked out Chris Weidman with that flying knee, I was like, Jesus Christ. | ||
| He's just, he has this like slow move. | ||
| And then he sets these traps on you and explodes. | ||
| Where do you feel like, like these vets, the sport is changing so much. | ||
| So now you're starting to see all these, these vets try to figure it out. | ||
| Like why I've been going to light heavyweight Luke. | ||
| Is why I've been going to light heavyweight now? | ||
| Really? | ||
| So it's like, is he's got like, because obviously this, with Dana White's contender series, all these fresh guys are starting to, The sport is changing so fast. | ||
| Now these guys are starting to become the Tito Ortiz, the Chuck Liddell's. | ||
| Now it's like this new fresh... | ||
| Because think about it. | ||
| It's like Jordan said. | ||
| It's going to be somebody better than me one day, Michael Jordan. | ||
| It's going to be somebody way better than Jon Jones one day. | ||
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| And think about that, the evolution of the sport. | ||
| Well, that's what we've seen, right, when you go back to the old days, the Tank Abbott days, and then you see what you see today. | ||
| I mean, that's unrecognizable. | ||
| You're talking about 1993 to 2019. What is it going to be like in 2030? | ||
| The Phil Barone days. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| I mean, what we're going to look at in 10, 15 years from now is probably just... | ||
| I mean, you're seeing it now with the Tuesday Night Contender Series and with these guys coming out of one that you never even heard of before. | ||
| The Johnny Walkers, where you come from. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| That Naziuken guy that knocked out Eddie Alvarez, like, who the fuck is he? | ||
| He's a monster. | ||
| Never heard of him before, right? | ||
| There's so many guys coming up right now that no one's heard of that are just dedicated and driven and focused, and they also have a higher benchmark. | ||
| You know, they've seen the Mighty Mouses. | ||
| Yeah, you're right. | ||
| They've seen these guys, and they know that this is the level they're trying to achieve instead of, you know, looking back at the early days, you know, where guys just weren't as complete as they are now. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| Do you think... | ||
| What is the... | ||
| Daniel has said plenty of times there will never be cross-promotion. | ||
| Do you think it is... | ||
| Will it ever be... | ||
| Would you like to see that? | ||
| Yes, I would. | ||
| A one versus UFC champion? | ||
| Look, I'm the worst businessman of all time. | ||
| I'm not about protecting any brands. | ||
| I don't give a fuck. | ||
| I would be like... | ||
| Yeah, come on. | ||
| Let's fight. | ||
| Let's make a fight. | ||
| Let's all make money. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| I'm the wrong guy for that. | ||
| If I would make the UFC lose money, I'd pay people more. | ||
| I'm not the right guy for that job. | ||
| And I think that I would have a lot more weight classes. | ||
| First of all, I wouldn't have a jump between 85 and 205. That, to me, looks crazy. | ||
| Why don't you have 10 pounds? | ||
| Every 10 pounds. | ||
| 165 is needed. | ||
| Yes, 165 is needed. | ||
| Kevin Lee could be champion easily there. | ||
| 55, 65, 75, 85, all the way on up. | ||
| 95, 205, 215, 225. There's more fights. | ||
| Yes, more fights, more champions, and I think it's the right way to do it. | ||
| Also, I feel like it's weird that we call it welterweight when it's 170, and now Glory calls it welterweight at 172. Welterweight, like in the Sugar Ray Leonard, Tommy Hearns days, it's 147. That's welterweight. | ||
| Yeah, because Mayweather was a welterweight champion in 147. That's boxing. | ||
| That's boxing. | ||
| That's the fucking legitimate original name for that weight class is the boxing name. | ||
| They called it welterweight. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| They called it middlemate. | ||
| They called it cruiserweight. | ||
| It was their names. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So what we've done is some weird thing where we decided, fuck you, I'm going to call it welterweight. | ||
| It's like, you know, I live on Brown Street. | ||
| Yeah, fuck you, Brown Street's over here now. | ||
| How can we have two Browns treats? | ||
| That's ridiculous. | ||
| It doesn't make any sense. | ||
| Why wouldn't they create 165? | ||
| They should. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| My relationship with Dana White is we're very good friends. | ||
| I love the guy to death. | ||
| I've loved him forever. | ||
| He got me in a commentary. | ||
| If it wasn't for him, I would have never done it. | ||
| But I don't do what he does. | ||
| I don't want that job. | ||
| I don't get it. | ||
| I don't agree with him on a lot of shit. | ||
| I don't agree with him on weight classes for sure. | ||
| I don't agree with him on some of the rules. | ||
| There's a lot of shit I don't agree with. | ||
| There's a lot of things I don't agree with in the sport in general. | ||
| I'm changing my opinion, though, about bare knuckle. | ||
| I used to think that it would be a good idea. | ||
| You like it now? | ||
| No. | ||
| Oh, you don't? | ||
| No. | ||
| For MMA, I feel like people would get too cut up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Paulie barely got hit. | ||
| You see his face? | ||
| Yeah, but did you see Chris Lieben's face? | ||
| Oh, that was brutal. | ||
| Pull up that picture from Chris Lieben's thing today. | ||
| Dakota Cochran opened up just a fucking river on his head. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| I just feel like... | ||
| Imagine seeing a woman and her face look like that. | ||
| We've already seen it. | ||
| I mean, we've seen girls in Muay Thai in particular. | ||
| Look at that gash. | ||
| Dude, that is crazy. | ||
| I mean, that looks like you fell off a motorcycle and hit a tree. | ||
| And these fans just want more blood? | ||
| Well, it's just the knuckles cut your face up so easy. | ||
| And elbows cut your face up as well. | ||
| And you can definitely... | ||
| Look, we've seen some horrific gashes inside the UFC. But I think it's harder to hit someone with an elbow and cut them up like that. | ||
| It's like you're getting a lot of punches in. | ||
| You're not getting a lot of elbows in. | ||
| You're not getting as many. | ||
| You can, especially with ground and pound. | ||
| There's a real good argument for bare knuckle. | ||
| But when you watch these bare knuckle fighters, they're breaking their fucking hands almost every fight. | ||
| Everybody's getting their hands broken. | ||
| Artem loves it. | ||
| He's an animal. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know what's crazy? | ||
| They call him the GOAT and it's just funny trolling with it. | ||
| But he's a game opponent. | ||
| He even fought Michael Johnson tough as hell. | ||
| That was a tough fight for Michael. | ||
| He's tough. | ||
| The Russian Hammer is a good nickname for that dude. | ||
| He's a hammer. | ||
| Yeah, look at Paul. | ||
| He got hit with like two punches. | ||
| And he said, I got only hit clean once. | ||
| Well, he got hit clean a couple of times. | ||
| But the point is, he didn't do shit. | ||
| That was bad. | ||
| I'm a fan of Paulie Malignaggi as a boxer. | ||
| One of the best commentators. | ||
| He's very, very, very good as a commentator. | ||
| And I think he beat Adrian Broner. | ||
| I think when he fought Broner, I think he out-pointed him. | ||
| But that's with those big ass gloves. | ||
| He doesn't have a, no disrespect, he doesn't have a good body for the sport. | ||
| He's not genetically gifted. | ||
| He's just not. | ||
| He's got an awkward body. | ||
| Like athletically, he moves in an awkward way. | ||
| He's just really smart and really tough. | ||
| And he did the very best with what nature gave him. | ||
| And he became world champion. | ||
| Yeah, he became a legitimate world champion and he knows so much about boxing. | ||
| But it's a different world when you don't have any fucking goals. | ||
| The owner of Bare Knuckles is like, this proves that we have the best combat sport in the world. | ||
| After the fight, I was like, oh my God. | ||
| There's some Thai guys. | ||
| Because our fighter beat a boxer. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, but they don't, it's just, you can't say it's the best combat sport in the world, because you can't let them elbow and kick and punch and knee. | ||
| It's like, there's this thing about boxing, right? | ||
| The sweet science. | ||
| The thing about it is if you only let a guy box and with boxing gloves you get to see some shit Like when you see floyd fight where guys are punching him and they can't fucking hit him He's right in front of them And he's moving away because his knowledge and understanding of what you can do with those two weapons is just off the charts He's got it focused like a goddamn laser beam and you just can't touch him He's he's better than anybody that's ever been in terms of like his defensive Like he gets hit less than anybody who's ever fought and had 50 wins | ||
| There's nobody that gets it less than Floyd. | ||
| How many more fights did he have after he beat Canelo? | ||
| That's a good question. | ||
| He fought Pacquiao after that. | ||
| Yes, he fought Pacquiao. | ||
| He fought Berto. | ||
| He fought Berto. | ||
| Was it the... | ||
| Who else did he fight? | ||
| Did he fight Tim Bradley? | ||
| Or did Bradley fight Pacquiao? | ||
| No, he fought a Maidana, right? | ||
| Twice? | ||
| Was that after? | ||
| No, no. | ||
| I think the Maidana fight was before. | ||
| That was one of the things that gave a lot of people that thought Canelo had a shot because Maidana cracked him in that first round, remember? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Or not first round, the first fight, right? | ||
| Right before the bell. | ||
| Yeah, right before the bell and wobbled him a little bit. | ||
| Yeah, he stumbled. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Both of them were before? | ||
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| They were. | ||
| Yeah, that's what I'm saying. | ||
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Floyd had some fights after. | |
| Oh, that's right. | ||
| The Guerrero fight. | ||
| Canelo record was crazy even then. | ||
| Miguel Cotto. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Look, man. | ||
| Floyd is a motherfucker, dude. | ||
| He's a motherfucker. | ||
| You might not like the style and the way he fights. | ||
| But the boxers that appreciate how difficult it is to do what he does, he's a new benchmark. | ||
| He's a new benchmark in terms of how to get out of that sport with getting the very least amount of damage and fighting the most masterfully. | ||
| And he's really changed the way Canelo fights. | ||
| You see Canelo against Danny Jacobs. | ||
| Canelo's using a lot of his shit. | ||
| I mean, he's like, that's how you do it, man. | ||
| It'd be crazy when people are like, Floyd should fight this version of Canelo. | ||
| Canelo's way bigger than that. | ||
| Yeah, come on. | ||
| It's a totally different thing. | ||
| Canelo's a legit middleweight now. | ||
| You know what the Triple G Canelo trilogy reminds me of? | ||
| Remember when Pacquiao fought? | ||
| Who was it that knocked him out? | ||
| Why am I blanking? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Juan Manuel Marquez. | ||
| They fought three times. | ||
| Pacquiao won twice. | ||
| And Marquez flatlined. | ||
| And they flatlined him. | ||
| And I was like, damn, what if Triple G gets his third chance and that happens? | ||
| Because it's similar stories. | ||
| Like, he won. | ||
| He won twice. | ||
| Everybody said Marquez beat him twice. | ||
| And then they finally fought again and then he beat him. | ||
| Boom. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And... | ||
| Pacquiao's still fighting, though. | ||
| Yeah, how is that possible? | ||
| He's fighting Keith Thurman. | ||
| I know. | ||
| That's a tough fight. | ||
| That's dangerous. | ||
| He can win it. | ||
| Yeah, he can win it. | ||
| He can just knock out his last appointment. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Listen, Pacquiao's still good. | ||
| He's still good. | ||
| And after he got shoulder surgery, you know, I mean, he's as good as he's ever been. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I just hate that he keep using that excuse that his shoulder is messed up against him. | ||
| When he fought Floyd? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It would have been interesting to see him 100% healthy against Floyd, but Floyd was smart with him. | ||
| He's like, not yet. | ||
| Not yet. | ||
| Isn't it weird that people say he waited until he got old, but Pacquiao's older than Floyd? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Floyd's older than Pacquiao. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Floyd's older than Pacquiao. | ||
| Yeah, but he did wait until Pacquiao got a little worn. | ||
| After he got knocked out by Marquez, he's like, okay. | ||
| Yeah, let's go. | ||
| It looks like now's the time. | ||
| It still wasn't close. | ||
| Well, it's also, you know, Floyd is incredibly smart when it comes to promotion. | ||
| He's not going to let anybody get 50-50 with him. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| That's the whole Eddie Hearn shit, though. | ||
| That's what, and then what can happen. | ||
| Well, that shit is crazy. | ||
| What did you hear about him getting hurt before the fight? | ||
| I heard that he had an anxiety attack. | ||
| Yeah, I heard it. | ||
| And I heard he got knocked out. | ||
| That's what I heard. | ||
| Yeah, we're talking about Anthony Joshua. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| Yeah, for the people listening. | ||
| We heard that Eddie Hearn is the promoter of Anthony Joshua. | ||
| And what I had heard was that he got flatlined in training or dropped and hurt bad in training. | ||
| and it was like leading up to the fight like very close to the fight whether a week or so out what did you hear? | ||
| well I heard that happened and then he went to Miami to finish the rest of his camp after that really? | ||
| so that's what I think his dad was bitching about like Joshua I'm not 100% certain but in the ring when he was getting into it I told you he wasn't right for the fight. | ||
| They were trying to reschedule the fight. | ||
| Yeah, they probably should have. | ||
| When you get dropped like that... | ||
| Because you see the punches he got hit with, they don't seem like punches that would... | ||
| He also looked a little out of it. | ||
| Out of it. | ||
| It's easy to say that though after. | ||
| But Andy Ruiz is a bad motherfucker, dude. | ||
| That guy throws combinations, man. | ||
| Andy Ruiz is a bad motherfucker. | ||
| You know, people just get confused when they look at that belly. | ||
| If you took all that fat away and you saw what was underneath it and you fought the same way, but he weighed 220, you'd go, wow, he's got a real shot. | ||
| You see them Instagram videos of him training how fast his hands is. | ||
| I'm like, whoa. | ||
| Fast as fuck. | ||
| Confusing. | ||
| Listen, when they told me to film him, I think he might have had... | ||
| 20,000 followers. | ||
| And then in one night he had like a million. | ||
| I'm like, golly. | ||
| And he seemed like a humble guy. | ||
| He keep trying to promote Snickers. | ||
| Snickers, like every day. | ||
| Snickers. | ||
| He want that sponsorship. | ||
| Snickers need to give him his sponsorship. | ||
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Why Snickers? | |
| He likes Snickers. | ||
| He's a big boy. | ||
| He's a big boy. | ||
| What do you think happens? | ||
| They're going to do a rematch? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And yesterday, Ruiz Jr. said, I'm going to beat him worse because I'm going to be in better shape. | ||
| He can't box. | ||
| And I was like, hmm. | ||
| Whoa. | ||
| He was an Olympic gold medalist. | ||
| He can fight. | ||
| Yeah, he can fight. | ||
| He can fight. | ||
| He can box. | ||
| It sucks because I was going to cover Big Baby Miller. | ||
| I think he's fucked if he fights Deontay. | ||
| I think Joshua just can't... | ||
| He can't hold up under that firepower. | ||
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Nah. | |
| Deontay hits people and it's like he's got some fucking... | ||
| Mortal Kombat superpower in his glove. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| Yeah, he got that old slave genetics. | ||
| Well, he's got that Tommy Hearns frame, too. | ||
| He's like a giant Tommy Hearns, where all that leverage, all that torque... | ||
| He hits so goddamn hard. | ||
| When you look at a guy that has, what does he have, like 40 wins, 39 KOs, something like that? | ||
| Yeah, 41 wins, 40 KOs or something crazy. | ||
| The only one he didn't KO is, as we talked about before, was Tyson Fury. | ||
| But if you looked at the count, if you had a real clock and you hit start when he went down, instead of relying on the referee to go one, two... | ||
| Maybe Tyson would have gotten up because he would have known that it was 8 when it was 8 because the referee was saying 8, it was already 10. It was like 1, 2. By the time he got to 8 and 9 and Tyson stood up, 10 had long been passed. | ||
| So technically. | ||
| But that was also the case with Buster Douglas and Mike Tyson, you know. | ||
| When Mike Tyson knocked down Buster Douglas, Buster Douglas did not get up by the count of 10. No. | ||
| On a real count of 10. An actual 10 second count. | ||
| But his obligation is to get up by the referee's count, not by a clock. | ||
| They should use a fucking clock. | ||
| Why don't they use a goddamn clock? | ||
| Early on, I used to document Tyson's trainer, Stacey McKinley, after he got out of prison. | ||
| I used to always bring that up with Holyfield and him. | ||
| But he was down 10 seconds. | ||
| He was like, that don't mean shit. | ||
| Ain't nobody caring about that. | ||
| They don't use that as an excuse. | ||
| It's true, because he could have gotten up at 8 or 9 if they actually had a real clock. | ||
| It's not like he was out cold and he woke up at 8. He was just gathering his thoughts and trying to get his brain straight. | ||
| Imagine in MMA if they had standing 8. Why the fuck doesn't boxing have a clock? | ||
| Like, well, they have a clock when it counts the ring, right? | ||
| The ring time. | ||
| Three minutes for the round. | ||
| So soon as somebody falls. | ||
| Have a fucking real clock that shows seven, eight, nine. | ||
| So you don't leave it up to the goddamn referee. | ||
| So then a ref can look in the corner and say, oh, it's at... | ||
| And you pick it up from there. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, shouldn't it be the ref counting? | ||
| It should be like a voice, like a digital voice. | ||
| One, two, three. | ||
| So it's 100% 10 seconds. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's so crazy because one guy could have a fast count, one guy could have a slow count. | ||
| That's stupid. | ||
| One guy could have an envelope in his suit pocket in the locker room. | ||
| Just make it a little bit slower. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So, you just never know about that. | ||
| I looked this up when we were talking about this a couple months ago, supposedly, that the time official is supposed to start the count immediately, and then the in-ring referee picks it up once he's got his attention on it. | ||
| Yes, that is what happens. | ||
| The problem is the referee does not do it to 10 seconds. | ||
| He doesn't do it to an actual clock. | ||
| That's what happens. | ||
| When the guy goes down and says, go to a neutral corner, and then he picks it up at 3, 4, but he could be off by 2 seconds easily. | ||
| Like a guy celebrating and then he spent four seconds trying to get him to his corner. | ||
| Yeah, but that's on the guy. | ||
| That's on the guy. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| But once the guy goes to a neutral corner, the fucking clock should be like a legitimate second clock. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Or you flatline people like Walter, and then they don't get up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It says it comes from a gentleman's rule, so I don't know if it was supposed to be 10 seconds. | ||
| So does parking your horse in front of the fucking saloon. | ||
| Get out of here. | ||
| It's 2019. We got clocks, bitch. | ||
| This is ridiculous. | ||
| It doesn't make any sense. | ||
| Boxing is shady. | ||
| Well, boxing is shady as fuck. | ||
| One thing I like what Glory does, though, they incorporate five judges. | ||
| These five judges. | ||
| I think the UFC should do that as well. | ||
| I think three judges are ridiculous. | ||
| When you see bad decisions... | ||
| It's a lot of those. | ||
| I don't know who the lady, Angela Hill, just fought against. | ||
| I thought it was a bad decision. | ||
| And I looked at that. | ||
| I was like, why don't they have five judges? | ||
| Five judges who know what the fuck they're doing. | ||
| But you said they named 170 Welterweight. | ||
| They just do what they want to do. | ||
| Well, boxing uses three judges, too. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| The more the better. | ||
| It's not like it's expensive to have a lot of judges. | ||
| Because remember that scorecard that gave the draw to Canelo? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Tim Bradley. | ||
| No, Pacquiao. | ||
| Tim Bradley. | ||
| Oh, the one. | ||
| No, Mayweather. | ||
| Canelo. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yeah, that lady. | ||
| She vanished. | ||
| And then she did it again, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| She did it again with Tim Bradley and Manny Pacquiao. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| When Tim Bradley beat Manny Pacquiao, everybody was like, what? | ||
| What the fuck? | ||
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What the fuck? | |
| Even Bradley knew he didn't win that fight. | ||
| No. | ||
| No, he didn't win that fight. | ||
| But the Canelo one was ridiculous. | ||
| That was crazy. | ||
| That's one of those weird things where it's like all someone has to do was put a shitload of money on a majority decision. | ||
| So you know that Floyd's not going to knock Canelo out. | ||
| He doesn't really knock a lot of that out. | ||
| He's going to win. | ||
| Put the money on a majority decision. | ||
| It means one person has to be dirty. | ||
| All you need is one person who's dirty and you can win millions. | ||
| Boxing is so dirty. | ||
| It's so old. | ||
| You can't be dirty in UFC though, right? | ||
| Really? | ||
| With the judging? | ||
| I think the judging is incompetent. | ||
| I've never had any indication. | ||
| No one's ever said to me they think it's dirty. | ||
| I think it's incompetent. | ||
| Incompetent? | ||
| There's a lot of incompetent judges. | ||
| But then there's also we got state judges. | ||
| Yeah, it'd be weird with the refs sometimes. | ||
| I was like, who is this ref? | ||
| Well, like we were talking about with Kamaru Usman and Damian Maia. | ||
| That's a ridiculous thing to separate those two. | ||
| That's ridiculous. | ||
| Just let them play it out. | ||
| Also, you got a constrictor. | ||
| You got a guy whose whole deal is to get you in a bad position. | ||
| And then he gets you in a bad position. | ||
| He's working his way. | ||
| He's trying to work his way. | ||
| He's got one hook in. | ||
| He's got your back. | ||
| It was time left, too. | ||
| It's time left. | ||
| It's time left. | ||
| Break! | ||
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Break! | |
| Fucking break you! | ||
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Break! | |
| Are you crazy? | ||
| What the fuck are you here for? | ||
| What are you here for? | ||
| You just want rock-em-sock-em robots? | ||
| Go watch Bare Knuckle Boxing. | ||
| Get out of here, bitch. | ||
| I just re-watched the Askren, Robbie. | ||
| I think they could have stopped it when he slammed on me. | ||
| He could have. | ||
| They could have stopped it. | ||
| Could have stopped it when he was fucking running his face through. | ||
| His head kept going back. | ||
| Could have stopped it. | ||
| But that was a lot of time left. | ||
| Yep, could have stopped. | ||
| I was in the locker room with Robbie when he came back. | ||
| Could have stopped it, but I watched that with Herb Dean. | ||
| I had Herb in here and we watched it and Herb changed my mind. | ||
| Because I was thinking that he wasn't out. | ||
| Because, you know, it's like they got to run that back. | ||
| And Kamara was saying they got to run that back. | ||
| That he was out. | ||
| Or that he wasn't out. | ||
| Where the arm dropped? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But then I watched it with Herb. | ||
| He's like, this is not a normal way your arm drops. | ||
| I'm like, you're right. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| So he could have just been out for a second? | ||
| I think he was out for a second. | ||
| And then he just woke back up? | ||
| Yeah, popped back up. | ||
| And the way Askren said it is, when Herb started coming over to him, he knew he was out. | ||
| Herb started coming over to him. | ||
| He let up on the grip a little bit. | ||
| And that's why Robby popped right back up. | ||
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Regained consciousness? | |
| Yeah, I believe Ben. | ||
| I believe Ben. | ||
| The arm, that is, you don't let your arm just drop like that. | ||
| I think he was out for a second. | ||
| So as soon as he picked his arm up, he woke back up because he was like, thumbs up. | ||
| Ben clamped on his head. | ||
| Ben squeezed on his head. | ||
| The arm drops. | ||
| Herb comes over to look at him. | ||
| He thinks he's going to stop the fight. | ||
| He lets up a little bit because he thinks he's already out. | ||
| And then he pops back up to life. | ||
| And then Herb stops the fight. | ||
| Robbie's like, what the fuck? | ||
| I think that's what happened. | ||
| That's one of the most confusing back and forth. | ||
| Even during the fight, I watched it. | ||
| You and Dominique, he was like, no, he was. | ||
| No, he wasn't. | ||
| No, he's not out! | ||
| Yeah, I believe you right there. | ||
| It's hard to tell. | ||
| You're also looking through this cage, right? | ||
| It's over there. | ||
| And we're like, what is happening? | ||
| He's out! | ||
| Oh, he's not out! | ||
| Herb was in a bad angle. | ||
| He was in a bad angle. | ||
| He's the gold standard, though. | ||
| Yeah, he's the truth. | ||
| Herb's the best. | ||
| And he's so calm about how he handles things. | ||
| Never emotional. | ||
| Always logical. | ||
| He breaks things down. | ||
| He's the gold standard. | ||
| Especially now that John McCarthy's not in it anymore. | ||
| Yeah, he's doing a great job at Bellator, though. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, look, Bellator. | ||
| It used to be there was like a clear difference between UFC and Bellator. | ||
| Not anymore, man. | ||
| You know, Rafael Lovato and Musashi, did you see that fight? | ||
| Yeah, I saw that. | ||
| Man, that's crazy. | ||
| That's a high-level fucking fight, man. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Especially after Musashi beat Rory McDonald, which Rory probably shouldn't have been fighting him at 185 pounds. | ||
| It was the wrong weight class. | ||
| Musashi's way bigger than him. | ||
| And Musashi is beating guys, real top-flight guys at 205. Yeah. | ||
| And then, you know, you got Lima, who just knocked out Michael Venom Page. | ||
| Brutal. | ||
| No promotion on him. | ||
| And I was sitting there like, man, I wish I could have just got my hands on him and told this guy's story. | ||
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| Because nobody knew him. | ||
| Lima's a murderer, bro. | ||
| He's a murderer. | ||
| And his brother in the UFC, right? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, Diego. | ||
| But Douglas is as good as anybody alive at 170 pounds. | ||
| I really believe that. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| I like what Scott Coker doing. | ||
| Yep, I do too. | ||
| I wish that they would do the same thing that one is doing with the weight cuts. | ||
| Just cut all that weight cut bullshit out. | ||
| Just stop it. | ||
| That's not necessary. | ||
| Michael Chandler cut a lot of weight too. | ||
| He's a big boy, so when he got hit... | ||
| He's heavy. | ||
| That's... | ||
| I always, like, when I see him get hit like that, I see how much weight these guys cut because I'm around it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I'm like, damn, he didn't really get hit like that. | ||
| He got hit on the temple, though, right? | ||
| He got hit by Pitbull, though. | ||
| Pitbull hit him on the temple. | ||
| That guy hits hard. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| They both hit hard. | ||
| It's one of those crazy games where, you know, whoever connects first can put the other guy out. | ||
| Especially after Chandler knocked out his brother. | ||
| It was a big deal. | ||
| Yeah, that was... | ||
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| Double champions. | ||
| It's a lot of double champions now. | ||
| Conor started it. | ||
| You got Bader. | ||
| He's a double champion. | ||
| You got Pitbull. | ||
| You got Cejudo. | ||
| Amanda Nunes. | ||
| Amanda Nunes. | ||
| It's a lot. | ||
| We had Conor, obviously. | ||
| Yeah, Daniel Cormier. | ||
| Daniel Cormier. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| Now he's threatening to be... | ||
| I would say, because they're going to have to do... | ||
| If Cejudo is out for a year, they're going to have to do an interim at Bantamweight. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So who you do? | ||
| Al Jermaine and Peter Yan? | ||
| You could do that. | ||
| That's a good fight. | ||
| Yeah, that's a very good fight. | ||
| Where does Cody Garbrandt fit in the picture? | ||
| That's a good question. | ||
| I think Cody has to win one. | ||
| Just get a fight. | ||
| Yeah, he got knocked out twice in a row. | ||
| By Pedro. | ||
| Yeah, Pedro Munoz. | ||
| Obviously, the TJ Dillashaw one comes into question. | ||
| Now the TJ gets popped for EPO. But what did he say on Chael Sonnen's podcast? | ||
| Yeah, he had an explanation. | ||
| He took it because he was trying to make the weight. | ||
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| He must have been just so drained trying to make that weight. | ||
| You really do have to fight. | ||
| I like TJ too, man. | ||
| I do too. | ||
| It was sad. | ||
| I was supposed to film him a week before he lost to Cejudo and then he was just like, ah, let's just do the next camp. | ||
| Dude, he looked like a goddamn skeleton going into that fight. | ||
| You see the picture when all those pills was on the table? | ||
| Yeah, ridiculous. | ||
| It was like 500 bottles. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I was like, why would you? | ||
| Just to maintain his body, keep it alive while he's just basically draining all the life out of it to make 125 pounds. | ||
| He's owning up to it, though. | ||
| Yeah, he is. | ||
| And I like that. | ||
| You gotta face your truth sometimes. | ||
| He also had really fucked up shoulders. | ||
| Both shoulders are fucked up. | ||
| And he wound up getting surgery on one of them. | ||
| Then he had the video. | ||
| He was fat looking and with the mustache. | ||
| I was like, what the hell is going on? | ||
| Did he just go to get kidnapped by aliens and drop back off? | ||
| Well, when you lose that much weight, your body wants to hold. | ||
| Your body is essentially you went into starvation mode. | ||
| Your body wants to hold on to every fucking calorie it can. | ||
| It slows your metabolism down. | ||
| I just think you're doing a giant disservice for the rest of your life with your body when you do that. | ||
| It's very unhealthy. | ||
| Brutal cuts. | ||
| Take years off your life. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's what a lot of fighters say, man. | ||
| It's Sean Soriano at Hard Knocks 365. I remember when Uzman was getting ready for the Willie fight. | ||
| That's my favorite time to film during fight week because that's the true raw emotions is the weight cut. | ||
| Everything else is standard. | ||
| They got to do open workouts, media. | ||
| It's boring stuff. | ||
| But that weight cut, you see these people's souls. | ||
| Uzman in there, Ben Askren, they all in the P.I., they all cutting weight together. | ||
| I'm just thinking, this is crazy. | ||
| And you've seen the picture with Cowboy and Tony Ferguson when they was side-by-side cutting weight. | ||
| That's when that respect goes to the all-time high with the fighters because they all in there trying to feed their families, man. | ||
| It's showing wind money. | ||
| Dude, Tony Ferguson scares the fuck out of me. | ||
| That guy don't get tired. | ||
| He doesn't get tired. | ||
| Everybody who fights him looks like they got run through a fucking meat chipper. | ||
| Brick hands, right? | ||
| Bricks. | ||
| What the hell is he doing? | ||
| He's got big-ass hands. | ||
| Fire every day. | ||
| Tony has big, wide hands. | ||
| So many people have been screaming for me to please do the anatomy of Tony Ferguson. | ||
| He's so interesting too. | ||
| That's one of them situations where it's like, I gotta see how, I don't know man, it's weird. | ||
| I'm in a weird position. | ||
| Because like, for example, I like Conor. | ||
| But damn, that relationship you got with Khabib is horrible. | ||
| I can't... | ||
| Yeah, I understand. | ||
| It just sucks because I filmed the Conor team before I ever met Khabib. | ||
| I had Owen Roddy, all these guys on the channel, right? | ||
| And now I'm Team Khabib. | ||
| When you get invited to somebody's country, be around a family, eat the food with their brothers, that's sacred. | ||
| You've got to respect that. | ||
| So I respect that. | ||
| Tony Ferguson's a different one. | ||
| They talk shit. | ||
| But I would love to get Tony Ferguson on the channel. | ||
| Do you think that compromises your objectivity or do you think that's just the price that you pay to be that close? | ||
| I know. | ||
| I think it's the price you pay sometimes. | ||
| But I wish fighters will understand what I'm trying to do. | ||
| No, I think they do and they definitely will now. | ||
| Yeah, I'm trying to build a platform from all fighters. | ||
| I don't care if y'all fighting. | ||
| It get ugly. | ||
| You throw a dolly through a bus, you talk about somebody's family and all this stuff, I get that. | ||
| Man, I can't touch that. | ||
| But when it comes to somebody like Tony Ferguson versus Khabib, I want to have the access to go with Tony and Eddie and film that and talk to them and get inside the mindset of who Tony is. | ||
| No one has really promoted Tony Ferguson. | ||
| I feel like I could do an amazing job spending a day or two with Tony Ferguson and talking about life. | ||
| I think you could too, but I don't know if Tony would be into it. | ||
| Tony is a real rebel. | ||
| He is. | ||
| He's a very unique guy. | ||
| He may give you a little bit, but not everything you want. | ||
| Yeah, he doesn't want anybody in close with him. | ||
| He's got secrets too in terms of how he prepares and how he trains. | ||
| He had one of my... | ||
| Good friends document him his last fight in Vegas, the one when he fought Pettis. | ||
| He documented him the whole time, so he had a camera crew with him. | ||
| Well, I think after his last fight, I think people are starting to understand, the cowboy fight, that this guy is something truly special. | ||
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Yeah, he is. | |
| And everybody knew, but if you look at his, the last time, I mean, Luke Thomas had something on his Twitter documenting the last time, how crazy it is if you look, like, who was champion the last time Tony Ferguson lost. | ||
| I mean, he's a monster. | ||
| His last loss was to Michael Johnson. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| How long ago was that? | ||
| Long time. | ||
| I think it was 2013. That's crazy that Michael Johnson beat him. | ||
| He beat Dustin Poirier. | ||
| Michael Johnson beat Dustin Poirier. | ||
| Flatlined him. | ||
| Ed Lightweight. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| KO'd him. | ||
| And Edson Barbosa. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And his tough losses was to Gaethje, who he could have beat Gaethje. | ||
| He had him beat. | ||
| They both back and forth. | ||
| And then the Khabib fight that I really... | ||
| I mean, that's debatable that he stung him. | ||
| He definitely tagged him. | ||
| He tagged him, but it wasn't like a flip. | ||
| He hit him. | ||
| It's a fight. | ||
| But Khabib mauled him. | ||
| He grabbed him and it was... | ||
| It just shows how good Khabib is. | ||
| You have to give up. | ||
| I deserve this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Give up. | ||
| That's when I was like, who the hell is this dude? | ||
| You don't have to be champion. | ||
| I didn't know who Khabib was. | ||
| I was documenting Michael Johnson for the camp. | ||
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I know. | |
| He's telling him to give up while he's beating the fuck out. | ||
| You know I deserve this, right? | ||
| And then Mike on the bottom and hit him back. | ||
| Like under. | ||
| It's like... | ||
| How about when he was beating the shit out of Conor? | ||
| Let's talk now. | ||
| Yeah, that was brutal. | ||
| Let's talk. | ||
| Boom. | ||
| He's just beating his ass. | ||
| So, you know, I was backstage when he came back in the locker room. | ||
| Yeah? | ||
| After the melee. | ||
| People have never seen that footage yet. | ||
| What was that like? | ||
| It was crazy. | ||
| I remember Cormier was like, Will, turn the camera off. | ||
| Because it was just too much going on. | ||
| Yeah, I've never released it yet because out of respect of the courts. | ||
| So I showed a snippet. | ||
| Yeah, hide that shit. | ||
| We need him to fight again. | ||
| We need to get past all that nonsense. | ||
| Yeah, trust me. | ||
| I can't wait to show the world one day how crazy that was in the locker room. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Listen, Will, we just did three hours, man. | ||
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Whoa. | |
| Can you believe that? | ||
| Look, it's 310. Look at the clock. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| Time warping this place. | ||
| This was everything I was hoping it was going to be, man. | ||
| I appreciate it, man. | ||
| I appreciate you. | ||
| And I think what you're doing with your channel is amazing. | ||
| Your documentary is amazing. | ||
| And I appreciate you. | ||
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Thanks, man. | |
| I appreciate it. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Bye, everybody. | ||
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Woo! | |
| Fuck. | ||
| Three hours. | ||
| That was great, man. |
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