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Oct. 9, 2010 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #47 - Michael Schiavello
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joe rogan
Ladies and gentlemen, we are live!
Live on the podcast with The Voice!
michael schiavello
Yeah, baby!
joe rogan
Michael Chiavello, a meeting of the minds, ladies and gentlemen, to mixed martial arts connoisseurs, if you will, together on a podcast.
Sponsored, by the way, by The Fleshlight, as always.
Now they have a new Avatar version out.
It's not really Avatar.
They can't say Avatar, but you know what you're fucking.
It's blue.
It's a blue vagina.
michael schiavello
These are like they've got in Tokyo.
They're called Tengas over there.
They're huge sellers at Don Quixote stores.
unidentified
Really?
michael schiavello
Which, for us mixed martial arts fans, Don Quixote is also the major sponsor of Sengoku.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
What is Don Quixote?
michael schiavello
It's a store.
No, it's a store where you can buy everything from fashion to food to fucking sex shit like this.
And they sell these things called Tenga.
It's similar to this, but a bit smaller because the Japanese have really small cocks.
Sorry to all of our Japanese fans, but you do.
joe rogan
Rude.
How rude.
michael schiavello
And yeah, the guys buy these things, tingers, and they rip the leaves off, and they fuck them.
joe rogan
Well, this is the only sponsor I have for the show.
Well, I've done a couple other ones, but, you know, in the MP3 versions.
But this...
This company was sponsored by a guy whose wife was pregnant, and he couldn't fuck her, obviously.
michael schiavello
Oh, so he invented something to fuck?
joe rogan
Came up with something to fuck, and now he's rich.
I mean, it's like his own personal, like, they came up with all these patents for what makes it feel the most like a pussy.
It's really fantastic shit, like, if you feel it.
michael schiavello
I'm not feeling you fucking stuck your cock in there, man.
joe rogan
No, I didn't.
I wouldn't do that to you.
michael schiavello
Promise me you've not stuck the rogue and fucking schlonger in there.
joe rogan
I have not done that.
I would not do that to you.
I would only give you a clean one.
Oh, you spit and two-fingered it.
Ooh, I feel dirty.
Damn.
Yeah, it's pretty cool.
michael schiavello
It's nice, man.
joe rogan
Well, you know what I like the most about it, though?
That there's been a bunch of controversy about it.
michael schiavello
I think Mayhem stuck his talking there, dude, when he was doing the podcast.
joe rogan
He wasn't here.
He just got this.
I just got this last week.
unidentified
Damn.
joe rogan
Mayhem touched one.
I might have given him one.
I'll give you one if you want.
I got some extra.
michael schiavello
That's right, I got my girlfriend here.
joe rogan
Shazam!
I know what you're saying, man.
It's everything, right?
michael schiavello
Lonely times, brother.
Lonely times on the road.
joe rogan
Cantaloupes in the microwave.
michael schiavello
You know, I only discovered like 12 months ago that the Japanese toilets all shoot water into your ass.
So I haven't wiped my ass in Japan for the last 10 months because it shoots water in your ass and cleans your ass out.
But!
joe rogan
That's really the way to do it.
michael schiavello
It's the way to go.
And the seat warms and the seat tilts from side to side.
But if you shift back a little bit more, it goes from your ass and shoots onto your balls.
So the Japanese toilets can fondle your balls while you're lonely nights on the road and get your balls fondled and get the moisturized out.
joe rogan
So that's what you do?
michael schiavello
I fondle my balls senseless, man, all on the road.
That's how I prepare for fight commentary.
joe rogan
How do you prepare?
Do you prepare?
You know almost everything there is to know about all these guys that are fighting.
One of the things that I appreciate about you is, just like me, if you weren't doing this, you would still be watching it just as much.
michael schiavello
Still, man.
Lucky I'm a fan.
joe rogan
He's over here tonight, so we're going to watch Strikeforce.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
We're buddies.
We met in Edmonton, and we hung out in Australia, and now he's over at my house, and we're going to watch the fight tonight.
michael schiavello
Yeah, yeah, I can't wait.
But man, the only thing I like to do before I commentate is I just like listening to music, man.
I listen to music.
I don't talk very much.
Last year we drove to Dynamite, which from the hotel to go to Saitama in Tokyo is like a 50-minute drive.
And in the cab was like me and Irene and one of our producers.
And I said to both of them, I go, you two talk to each other because I put these headphones on and just don't talk to anyone.
joe rogan
Wow.
Just chill out, man.
Just like to be in a good state of mind when you get in there.
michael schiavello
Just in a good state of mind.
Dude, I play some cheesy-ass songs.
Like seriously, if you saw the 10 songs I play before I go on air, there's cheesy ass fucking- Like what?
joe rogan
What do you got?
michael schiavello
Dude, I got everything from the theme from- Joe Esposito theme from Karate Kid, You're the Best Around, right?
You know that one?
To like the theme from fucking Grease.
Like songs from the musical Grease.
joe rogan
Really?
michael schiavello
Yeah, weird shit, dude.
joe rogan
What's that about?
And that gets you excited?
For real?
michael schiavello
Oh, like the hand jive.
The Grease hand jive song?
joe rogan
Really?
michael schiavello
I'm going to do the hand jive, baby.
That one, right?
I'm like, I'm about to go on air and come and take K1 and dream.
I'm like, hand jive.
joe rogan
That would drive me crazy.
michael schiavello
No, man.
Fucking Grease.
joe rogan
One Man's Poison.
Yeah.
michael schiavello
I fucking love it.
That's it.
I make sure I'm well prepared.
I do my research and all that sort of shit, but I know most of the guys anyway.
joe rogan
I like some bad music.
michael schiavello
What do you like?
joe rogan
I like some country music that's terrible.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
I could have been a cowboy.
You know that song?
I like that song.
unidentified
Country music?
Seriously?
joe rogan
I like some dumb Toby Keith style country music.
unidentified
Damn, that shit's evil, man.
joe rogan
I like good country music, too.
I like Hank Williams Jr. I like that Matt Hughes song, Country Boy Can't Survive.
michael schiavello
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
I fucking love that song.
That's a goddamn jam.
michael schiavello
I used to like R&B, man, but now it shits me.
unidentified
You know what?
michael schiavello
Everyone is too gangster.
joe rogan
R&B is just...
michael schiavello
At the end of the day, some guys, I'm going to say, I'm going to fuck him.
I'm going to pop a cap.
This motherfucker...
joe rogan
Oh, you can't get gangster in R&B. Dude, you sing.
Yeah.
michael schiavello
You're a singer for a living.
Yeah.
Do you know what would have happened to me if I told my dad when I was six years old, Daddy, I want to be a singer?
He would have fucking, get out on the street.
joe rogan
Well, they don't like to think of themselves as being, that's a feminine thing, so they overcompensate.
michael schiavello
They sing for a fucking living.
joe rogan
But rapping's not singing, right?
unidentified
Rapping's sort of, Rapping is just fast talking to music, dude.
joe rogan
It's more shit talk.
unidentified
It's fast talking.
joe rogan
It's just shit talk.
michael schiavello
It's like, I hate everybody.
joe rogan
There's like a rhythm to it, so it is kind of musical, but I like old R&B. I love Marvin Gaye.
That motherfucker just had a voice, man.
But I don't like the new stuff because I don't believe them.
You know what I'm saying?
Like R. Kelly.
I love R. Kelly just because it's funny.
Just because it's so ridiculous.
unidentified
Bitch, I wish you would burn my motherfucking clothes.
joe rogan
He sings that.
I mean, the shit that he sings is like a ghetto conversation and he just puts it to a song.
I can appreciate that.
michael schiavello
And every second word is...
I don't know, it's like a bad word, a taboo word, like nigger, you know?
We don't have that in Australia.
You don't call anyone that.
There's hardly any black people in Australia.
But every second word...
joe rogan
So that word doesn't even exist?
michael schiavello
No, we wouldn't say it.
joe rogan
Really?
michael schiavello
No.
joe rogan
So it's like Americans calling someone an abo?
Abbo.
Aborigine.
michael schiavello
Aborigine, yeah.
See, abbo is a bad word.
joe rogan
It doesn't exist over here.
You call someone, hey, you fucking abbo, and they'll go, okay, what?
michael schiavello
If I call a black guy in America an abbo, he goes, abbo, what's that?
If I call him a nigger, he's going to kill me.
joe rogan
But if you call an aborigine an abbo, it's the same thing as calling him a nigger?
michael schiavello
Forget it.
They'll pour petrol on you and set you on fire.
Whoa!
But I don't understand.
joe rogan
But that's just a short version of aborigine.
Yo, you've got to turn that shit off, son.
michael schiavello
Dismiss alarm.
I don't know why it's on it like...
5 in the afternoon.
joe rogan
It's time to get your balls folded by the toilet.
You got that shit out of the clock, you sick fuck.
michael schiavello
But you're right.
It's an abbreviation.
It's like, if you're Jewish and I say you're Jew, nothing wrong with that.
Aboriginal, abbo.
Italian, itai.
joe rogan
There's nothing wrong with that, man.
michael schiavello
Australian, Aussie.
joe rogan
Yeah, what's wrong with that?
michael schiavello
But abos hate being called abos.
joe rogan
I made a statement once saying the Japs have created some insane shit.
And this guy goes, do you know how racist that is that you just said that?
I'm like, what?
michael schiavello
No, but the thing is...
joe rogan
We were talking about NSXs.
We were talking about engineering, like Japanese race car engineering.
Like, they've invented some incredible shit.
Their cars are so reliable.
And so I said, the Japs have invented some incredible shit.
This guy's like, do you know how racist that is?
michael schiavello
Dude, I had this argument last year with someone, because I called someone a Jap back home.
And it's like the World War II alliance thing that it's racist to call Jap.
And I've gone...
joe rogan
We've got to get past that.
michael schiavello
I've been working around Japanese people for...
For years.
And I'm sure I've called them Jap to their face and they don't mind.
And my mate's like, dude, that's so fucking racist.
It's just wrong.
You can't say Jap.
So I went to Japan and I asked my producer.
I said, dude, if I call you a Jap, are you offended?
He goes, no, it's short for Japanese.
I go, no offense.
You don't fucking start thinking Pearl Harbor and, you know, nuclear bombs on Hiroshima.
joe rogan
But people thought the Nips was far too offensive.
michael schiavello
But Nippon!
joe rogan
That's how the Japanese say Japan.
They don't say Japan.
They say Nippons.
michael schiavello
Some people are retarded, man.
joe rogan
It's a strange thing where people don't want to step on people's toes over nonsense.
An abbreviation of a name is bad.
Intent is the only thing that's bad.
Intent.
It's all in...
How do you feel like...
When you say, these Japs are fucking badass, they make some cool shit.
Or do you say, these Japs, these little tiny cocky yellow motherfuckers coming over here to fuck all the white women and take all the land and you start getting angry?
Well, then Japs is a bad thing.
But it's the intent behind it that's bad.
michael schiavello
It's an abbreviation, man.
That's what it is.
It's an abbreviation.
joe rogan
People are always looking for a reason to be pissed off.
People are so pissed off just about life itself, about traffic and bullshit and bills and the constant monotony of work.
michael schiavello
Everybody has a fucking opinion this day, man.
Why can't some people just shut the fuck up?
Like the fucking cocksuckers I read on the internet sometimes.
It's like, what qualifies you to have a fucking opinion that I should pay attention for?
Are you sitting behind your website fucking getting paid to put your opinion on there?
No!
joe rogan
Well, even the ones who are, there's a lot of websites out there.
There's a lot of bloggers, in my opinion, that aren't nearly as good as some of the commentary guys who post on like mixedmartialarts.com.
There's some fucking intelligent guys that I've been reading their posts for years, and I know that if there's a post about anything serious, well, this guy, if he posts something about it, this is going to be an interesting opinion.
I want to read this.
But how many writers can you say that about?
How many MMA writers?
michael schiavello
Very few, man.
joe rogan
I think there's more talented people on forums.
michael schiavello
No, the other thing with MMA writers is they are blinded to anything outside of the UFC. And I love the UFC because I'm a fucking huge MMA fan.
joe rogan
I don't think Josh Gross is.
Josh Gross is pretty open.
michael schiavello
Josh, one of the rare ones.
There's a few that aren't, but a lot of them are blinded to anything that is not UFC. They might be scared.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
They might be scared.
michael schiavello
They're scared they're going to be yanked their credentials from Dana.
unidentified
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Fucking careful with Dana.
Dana doesn't play.
I know, it's creepy.
michael schiavello
But a lot of them don't even know anything about martial arts, bro.
You could not sit down and have a conversation about martial arts with them.
joe rogan
Dana is so competitive that he does have this environment where he feels like they should pay attention to the UFC first, and then if they don't, he's not very happy with that.
michael schiavello
UFC is the one.
It's the promotion.
It is the one you're going to pay attention to first and foremost.
joe rogan
That attitude and pushing it like that is the reason why this fucking sport is gigantic.
The reason why it's going to Australia.
He's not lazy.
He's taking on all fronts.
So it's tough for journalists in that sense.
But there are some fucking talented guys out there.
Like Josh Gross is a talented journalist.
And he's honest about shit.
Sometimes he's a little hypercritical.
Sometimes guys get critical about dudes' abilities and characters, and they try to say something bitchy, because if someone puts in a bad performance, they feel like it's their job to be critical and to be shitty and bitter.
michael schiavello
But it's like you've got nothing better to fucking write about.
I... I did the K-1 show last...
joe rogan
Here's a perfect point of view.
What do you say about a Krokop and a Muir fight?
When Krokop and Muir fight, man, there's not a lot of positive things to say.
The positive thing to say is the end of the fight, of course, Frank Muir landed a perfect knee and put Krokop away and then finished him, jumped all over him.
So that's the good thing to say.
But for everything up before that, what could a writer say?
So they just start going off about just the worst...
Possible shit that they could think of, you know, what's wrong with Frank Mir and how, you know, he's got this attitude and Crow Cop should hang it up and they'll just write the most bitter fucked up shit.
I think the human drama is far more compelling than the real drama of that fight.
That was a strange fight, man.
unidentified
The thing along with that fight, though, it's like they liked each other or something.
michael schiavello
Mirko came out and he said, even if I lose, I'm not going to get cut from UFC. So when I read that, I'm like, I don't want to fucking see this fight.
joe rogan
Did he say that?
michael schiavello
He came out and said at one of the websites, like Mirko says, even if I lose, I can't get cut.
If that's the case, I don't want to fucking watch that fight, man.
Because already I know that you've got that in the back of your head.
joe rogan
I'm not sure if he really said that.
michael schiavello
His words were maybe misconstrued.
joe rogan
It could be taken out of context.
If you lose this fight, do you think you'll be kicked out of the UFC? I hope not.
Mirko says he won't be kicked out of the UFC if he loses this fight.
Journalism sometimes is that bad.
michael schiavello
Yeah, it's misconstrued.
It'll be misconceived.
Exactly.
And then it's reported the wrong way.
joe rogan
I read some shit that I supposedly said, and I was like, I didn't say it like that.
You know, you're missing what I'm saying.
michael schiavello
That has been the big difference, bro, between commentating outside of America and then recently coming onto the American scene.
It's like you get people that sit there and watch the broadcast and analyze every fucking word and pause and breath you take and then dissect it down to the nitty gritty of mine.
joe rogan
It's bad and it's negative, but I also think it's good.
For me, personally, it's good.
I've learned a lot from shitty people online saying shitty things.
Because, you know, worst case scenario, what can they attack you on?
Is there any validity in this total piece of shit who's saying terrible things about you?
But, do they have a point?
And if they do have a point, then you can snatch victory from all their negative bullshit by using whatever they're saying and improving it.
michael schiavello
In a way, if you use it positively, it acts as a watchdog for your own abilities and your own appearances on air.
joe rogan
I love to do that to total cunts, though.
I get personal freedom out of reading the shittiest, nastiest things that I know just some desperate, angry fuckhead says.
And turning it into a positive thing for me.
Like, I have this little game that I play with.
Because it's very difficult to do.
michael schiavello
No, man.
I want to do, like, silent Bob and Jay style.
Like, hunt the fuckers down.
joe rogan
You get mad?
When you read shit about yourself, do you get mad?
michael schiavello
Nah, you get used to it, man.
You know, it's like...
And I tend not to read a lot of it.
Because it's like, what am I going to do?
Sit there and read it and go, wow, I'm so super and fantastic.
Because people are giving you these compliments.
And then you read people that will bag you...
unidentified
Why?
joe rogan
Well, it's good to know that people are enjoying what you do.
michael schiavello
It's good to know.
joe rogan
It's good to know and to connect with them.
I saw you did that recently on the underground.
You made a post.
michael schiavello
Yeah, my first time on the underground.
joe rogan
Dude, there's plenty of cool people on there.
I post on there all the time.
There's plenty of cool people there.
There's going to be douchebags no matter what.
When you have anonymous screen names and people can say anything they want, whenever you have that situation, there's going to be douchebags.
michael schiavello
It's just sad though, man.
It's totally unbelievable.
Sure Dog, which has got some great posts, but also some ludicrally fucking ridiculous bullfuckers on there.
And so many pro fighters that I know and so many media guys just won't post on sites like that anymore because of the reason that people just attack and attack like fucking...
Piranhas, man!
joe rogan
A lot of hateful fucks out there.
michael schiavello
A lot of hateful fucks out there.
joe rogan
But it's a fascinating thing, man, because we're finally getting to see that.
Everyone gets to see that now.
It used to be you never got to see that if you were a star.
Stars, I think, just 20 years ago were much more likely to believe in their own bullshit.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
Back then, they never saw shit.
And if it got in a magazine, they approved it.
If it got in a newspaper, it had to be like big news, like Roman Polanski type news to make it in the newspaper.
But now, man, they're all up in your shit every day.
michael schiavello
Man, everything is just taken apart and dissected.
Twitter, I'm getting used to Twitter.
I went Twitter's not big in Australia, dude.
unidentified
Really?
michael schiavello
There are two people in Australia who know about Twitter.
No one twitters.
Everyone's on fucking Facebook.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
michael schiavello
No one twitters in Australia.
Some people are still stuck on MySpace.
joe rogan
Well, Twitter and Facebook on mine are connected.
So if I send something on Twitter, it goes to Facebook.
It says it there, too.
michael schiavello
Dude, I so don't know about technology.
Your house is like fucking NASA in here, man.
You have more shuttles and shit.
joe rogan
I'm a technology junkie.
michael schiavello
Dude, unbelievable.
joe rogan
I'm fascinated by what's going on with technology right now.
michael schiavello
And man, can you seriously live any higher up on a fucking mountain or whatever?
joe rogan
I did, man.
When I was living in Colorado.
michael schiavello
Look at a nosebleed drying up here, man.
joe rogan
Dude, this ain't shit.
This is civilization compared to where I was living.
I was living eight miles down a dirt road on the top of a mountain in Boulder.
unidentified
Fuck.
michael schiavello
Man, this is fire.
joe rogan
That's where I like to live.
I like to live up and above so that when, like, waves of water or waves of retards...
michael schiavello
When the apocalypse comes and they come and...
joe rogan
Yeah, either waves of water or waves of retards, you see them coming up the hill.
I just like being away.
I think I'm very sensitive to people's energy and people's thoughts and their lives and their bullshit, so I like to be as...
When I sleep and when I'm at home and when I'm writing, when I'm by myself, I like to be as far away from people as possible.
michael schiavello
Man, it's cool, because all the houses here are different.
They're not all the same.
And other guarded communities I've seen here in the States, because we don't have guarded communities in Oz, the houses look all the same, though.
And up here, they're all different.
And on the guard gate, there's two guards.
How's this?
Two guards named Ralph.
At once, on duty.
I read the on-duty sign.
There's three of them.
Two of them are named Ralph.
joe rogan
When did you ever get two Ralphs together?
Maybe they're not even real, man.
Maybe it's a conspiracy.
michael schiavello
It's like there's a rule, man, in the world, like those Coca-Cola inventors that had to be at least 50 feet apart from each other at all times.
unidentified
Really?
michael schiavello
It's like you never see two Ralphs in the same room.
joe rogan
Wait a minute.
michael schiavello
What is this?
joe rogan
Coca-Cola inventors had to be 50 feet apart from each other?
michael schiavello
Did you ever hear that urban legend as a kid?
joe rogan
No.
michael schiavello
Like the inventors of Coca-Cola or the inventors of KFC, Kentucky Fried Chicken, with the secret recipe that they carry around on them all the time must at least be 50 feet apart.
joe rogan
So if one of them dies, the other one survives.
michael schiavello
So if one of them dies, the other one survives.
joe rogan
Wow.
Could you imagine if a recipe was that valuable?
michael schiavello
The KFC? Secret 11 Herbs and Spices!
joe rogan
LAUGHTER Nothing will fuck up your KFC appetite like watching one of those PETA videos.
michael schiavello
I love fucking children's urban legends, man.
That's what I told you about, about being a black belt when the kid said to me in grade five, we're talking about martial arts, and he's like, you can't be any more than a third damn black belt in Australia, or you've got to get out of the country because you're then a lethal weapon and have a license to kill.
That's hilarious.
And I'm like, I believed that for years, man.
joe rogan
I would probably believe it, too.
unidentified
I believe it.
joe rogan
Wow, you just can't get too deadly, I guess.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Speaking about urban legends, do you get the same ones that we do here?
Did you guys get the Richard Gere gerbil rumor?
michael schiavello
Oh, in the ass?
joe rogan
Yes.
michael schiavello
I didn't get that, man, because we didn't know what gerbils were, because we call them, I think it's what we call guinea pig in Australia.
joe rogan
No, we have guinea pigs too.
Guinea pigs are much bigger though.
What's a gerbil?
It's like a rat.
It's almost like a mouse.
michael schiavello
Now, people genuinely stick mice up their ass.
joe rogan
Look, if you've thought of it, someone's put it up their ass.
That's a fact.
And I knew about this.
I didn't want to know about this, but I knew about my buddy Steve Graham, who is a friend of mine from back when I was like 15 years old and still good friends.
He's a doctor, and he did his residency in Miami, and he got to see everything.
And this dude used to tell me about gunshot wounds, and every day they'd be pulling some new thing out of a dude's ass.
michael schiavello
Dr. Nick Nicoletu back in Melbourne.
So a doctor friend of mine.
Great doctor to go to dinner with because he'll tell you ass stories for hours.
He pulled a working dildo.
The dildo was still on.
In a guy's colon, it was lodged.
It went so far fucking up his inside.
And he had to milk it out of the guy's fucking colon and shoot it out of his ass.
And the dildo was still on.
Some other guy went in there and had a fucking brim, a fish up his ass.
A brim!
Fucking brim up his ass.
joe rogan
The thing that shocked my friend the most was glass.
He said a lot of them have glass up their ass.
They'll stick bottles and jars and the jars break.
michael schiavello
Oh no, the freakiest one from what Dr. Nick told me was, it wasn't about ass, it was two gay guys that came to see him.
No, one gay guy came to see him and he had a problem with his cock.
His cock had all this puss and shit coming out of it.
joe rogan
Oh my lord.
michael schiavello
So Dr. Nick's had a look at his cock, you know, he's gone...
I just don't know what I'm seeing here, dude.
It's like, what have you been doing?
What would the reason for this be?
So the gay guy proceeded to tell him, he thought, well, this might be the reason.
What him and his gay lover were doing, they were getting thin pieces of piping like this, right?
Long pipes.
He would stick it into his urethra and then connect the other end to his gay lover's urethra and then they would piss back and forth.
They would piss between their cocks.
So he was pissing into his lover's cock and then his lover pissing back into his cock.
And he's gone into the doctor saying, Doc, my cock's going to fucking pass over it.
Why?
unidentified
And Dr. Nick's like, why the fuck do you think you are sharing urine with another human being you do?
joe rogan
With a metal through your dick.
It's probably the metal rod through the dick that fucked him up more than the piss.
michael schiavello
Pissing back and forth.
joe rogan
His piss is basically sterile.
michael schiavello
Oh, and what was the other story he told me about this fat chick that came in one day?
Like, mega fat.
Like, you know, what's eating Gilbert Grape, that fucking big fat chick?
joe rogan
500 pounds.
unidentified
Yeah, huge.
joe rogan
What do you guys use?
Kilos?
michael schiavello
Kilos.
So she'd be like 280 kilos.
Like Akebono size.
joe rogan
500 pounds sounds better though.
michael schiavello
Yeah, 500 pounds.
That's like Yokozuna size, man.
joe rogan
Kilos are just too big a year.
michael schiavello
So let's say this fucking gargantuan behemoth comes in.
joe rogan
Right.
michael schiavello
And she came in...
And she'd stuck her tampon too far up her pussy.
So she asked Dr. Nick to get it out.
So he had to get the fucking pliers, the tongs, and go in this girl's fucking cavern, right?
She got through all the fat in her thighs, and pull out her tampon.
She came back the next month with the very same problem.
And she was coming back for four months in a row with the same problem of sticking her tampon too far up her cunt to be able to pull it out.
So eventually Dr. Nick realised that when he was...
Because he'd never looked her in the face.
Because you don't look her in the face when you're pulling shit out of her tampon.
This time he had an inkling.
joe rogan
So he's like...
michael schiavello
He's sticking tongs up her pussy.
And because this girl's a fucking animal, a fucking beached whale, no one's ever going to touch her vag.
joe rogan
Right.
michael schiavello
Clit's probably never been touched since she was born.
joe rogan
So that felt good to her.
michael schiavello
So for her, he's going inside.
She's like...
Like that.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
And he realizes, he's realized that she's been coming in.
Stuffing tampons up her pussy so that he'll go get them.
michael schiavello
So who'd go fucking fish in there and get the tampons out?
joe rogan
See, for a girl like that, there should be a place where you go where guys will just finger you.
I'm all for that.
You know, when I talk about being for prostitution, I'm all for dudes doing it too.
I'm for dudes eating girls' pussies and fingering them.
michael schiavello
This is what gets me though, bro.
I never understood what the big deal is about getting a handjob.
You know, you get a massage sometimes.
joe rogan
What if you're a girl, though?
It's way more of a big deal for a girl.
What I'm saying for girls is that would be a sweet spot for them, like a store, where they could just go and get fingered.
michael schiavello
And there's like a hole in the wall, and our hands could just go through and just change the clits.
joe rogan
You don't have to go out with some dude just because you need sex.
You can just fucking be all right.
You can get it when you really want it.
Get into a relationship that you really appreciate.
michael schiavello
Nice, clean, sterilized hand.
A little bit of clitoral stimulation during your lunch break.
Probably takes 10 minutes.
joe rogan
Listerine kills all the germs every time.
michael schiavello
You're done.
Back to a high-powered afternoon in the office.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, come on.
Let that guy eat your box and just finger-bang you.
You feel so much better.
michael schiavello
So we all know what Joe Rogan is doing when he retires from UFC commentary.
joe rogan
No, no.
michael schiavello
Setting up the world's first chain of self-fingering sell-offs.
joe rogan
We need more progress in this world before the world's ready to accept my ideas, sir.
michael schiavello
True.
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
Finger-banging stations.
michael schiavello
Bring in the hole in the wall where guys can just go and stick their junk in a fucking glory hole and get tossed off by some chick on the other side of the hole.
joe rogan
Yeah, what I suggested was...
michael schiavello
There would be so much less frustration.
joe rogan
It would be like one of those things where you do confession.
What are those?
michael schiavello
Yeah, like those...
What's that called?
joe rogan
Confessional?
Is that what it's called?
michael schiavello
They go inside the professional, they kneel on a pew.
joe rogan
Okay.
So you're in this little phone booth type situation, and you have a monitor in front of you.
You can watch some porn.
michael schiavello
Yep.
joe rogan
And she just sticks her hand through a hole in the wall.
michael schiavello
Oh, even better.
You can even watch the monitor of the girl on the other side.
joe rogan
Mm-hmm.
michael schiavello
Jerking you off.
joe rogan
Yeah, but what if she's gross?
Like, she doesn't even have to be good looking this way.
unidentified
Yeah, that's true.
joe rogan
All she has to do is just be good at jerking dudes off.
That way you don't even have to see her.
michael schiavello
Franchise coming.
The Rugger and Chevello House of Handjobs.
unidentified
Watch porn.
michael schiavello
House of Handjobs.
joe rogan
You don't even get to see what's happening below your waist.
michael schiavello
Yeah, let's see.
joe rogan
She's a trained professional.
michael schiavello
After 10 minutes, you're right.
The tension's gone.
The stress is gone.
And you're just ready for the day.
joe rogan
We can't handle that shit here in America.
We're a bunch of pussies.
We don't want it.
We don't want it.
We want people to be repressed.
We want people to just be non-sexual.
We want people to be a slave to whatever relationship they're in.
michael schiavello
Dude, Americans are super paranoid, man.
If I was living here and watching your news every night, I would fucking be scared to look out my window.
joe rogan
You are in the United States of America.
You are right now in the balls of the dick that's fucking the world.
This is a crazy-ass place to live.
michael schiavello
It is fucked, man.
It's fucked.
Seriously, everyone is paranoid.
joe rogan
There's too many people here.
michael schiavello
News analyzes stuff far too much.
It's crazy, man.
joe rogan
Do you watch Fox News?
michael schiavello
It's the worst.
It's from an Aussie, Rippin Murdoch.
That's the irony.
unidentified
Yeah, it's fucked up.
I watch Fox News and just go, what the fuck?
michael schiavello
It is too much.
joe rogan
Everyone is.
I mean, it's a self-fulfilling prophecy, too.
They literally manifest their own war against the liberals.
michael schiavello
It wasn't Fox News.
It was that whole thing about when Bush was voted in for the first time.
And Fox News did something about the voting polls.
You know when Bush beat Gore?
And Gore was actually the guy that won it, but Bush got in.
And Fox News had something to do with the way that they told voters that Bush had already won, but some votes somewhere hadn't been done or counted.
I don't fucking know how it works here in America.
joe rogan
Nobody knows how it works.
michael schiavello
David Hick wrote something about it, man.
joe rogan
Okay.
michael schiavello
David Hick wrote something about it in one of his books.
joe rogan
You know what I love?
I love when a politician gets busted for something sexual, anything deviant, anything sexual.
Fox always makes them a Democrat.
They do!
It's a long-running joke.
It's a long-running joke.
But if there's some guy, he gets caught, you know, fucking his babysitter or something like that.
It's a BAM! D, Vermont.
Even if the guy's a Republican, they always write him down as a Democrat.
michael schiavello
If you're a politician, the sexual stuff you get caught for should just be the most dirtiest, fucking disgusting, depraved shit ever.
I mean, if you're going to go down as a politician, go down fucking in flames, man, with some depraved shit.
joe rogan
Do you remember that DC madam?
Do you know that story?
There's a DC madam who was running some chain in Washington, D.C., And she, you know, had all these high powered senators and congressmen, all these people on her On her list of, you know, Johns.
And she was going to release it.
And there was some fucking crazy attention.
She gave, you know, press conferences and the whole deal.
And then she committed suicide.
unidentified
Oh, just conveniently committed suicide?
joe rogan
Just conveniently committed suicide.
And no one said a fucking thing.
No one said a thing.
No one was like, wait a minute.
Hold on.
unidentified
Wait a minute.
joe rogan
You're telling me that this woman right now, getting more attention than ever, possibly set to make a million dollars, she's deciding to hang herself.
michael schiavello
Oh, she hung herself?
Because I could just picture every politician in her book, like 40 of them, just cock-slapping her at once.
joe rogan
We could Google what they did to her, or what she supposedly did.
michael schiavello
Definitely got cock-slapping her.
joe rogan
They killed her ass, dude.
michael schiavello
Yeah.
joe rogan
They killed her ass.
My favorite one was, there was a story about one of the Enron whistleblowers who committed suicide by shooting himself in the head twice.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I'm not kidding, man.
I'm not kidding.
He shot himself in the head twice.
I wish I could remember the full details of the story, but that's what the coroner's report was, that he shot himself, which I guess is possible.
You could shoot yourself in the head and have fucked up, and you're still alive, but you're jacked.
michael schiavello
Fight Club style, but...
joe rogan
And you know that you have...
Is that what they did in Fight Club?
michael schiavello
Yeah, remember Ed Norton's character, like, blew off half his face.
joe rogan
Oh, that's right.
michael schiavello
And, yeah.
joe rogan
I got bored with that movie once I found out he was two different guys.
michael schiavello
Yeah, I was like, eh.
joe rogan
I was like, wait a minute, what?
So you're just faking it now?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
So this guy wasn't even real?
Wait a minute, what the fuck did I watch then?
michael schiavello
Dude, would you rather watch that or Piranha?
joe rogan
Piranha was pretty dumb.
michael schiavello
Piranha was...
unidentified
When the fish spat the cock out of its mouth?
michael schiavello
Dude, Piranha was gross, man.
joe rogan
It was dumb as fuck, but if you're in the mood for a dumb as fuck movie, it was perfect.
michael schiavello
When the chick got her face ripped off and the motor propeller and her hair was caught like...
joe rogan
That was nasty.
michael schiavello
Like, fuck.
Fuck, man.
joe rogan
It was totally ridiculous, though.
I mean, it was the most ridiculous movie ever.
michael schiavello
Insane.
Fucking insane.
joe rogan
I liked Jerry O'Connell's Girls Gone Wild.
michael schiavello
Oh, awesome, right?
joe rogan
That was pretty cool.
michael schiavello
Yeah.
unidentified
Fucking awesome.
joe rogan
That's like, I mean, if there's anybody you can root for getting their dick eaten.
michael schiavello
It's Jerry O'Connell.
I still liked him from Stand By Me, man.
joe rogan
No, not him.
You know, I'm saying a Girls Gone Wild guy.
michael schiavello
Oh, Girls Gone Wild?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
You know what I'm saying?
michael schiavello
He played the character perfectly.
joe rogan
Dude, I was watching HDNet the other night.
michael schiavello
That got some dirty shit on HDNet, man.
joe rogan
They do.
And they had this Girls Gone Wild thing.
And I was watching that Girls Gone Wild guy hanging out with those girls.
I'm like, that would be the saddest thing ever if that was your daughter.
If your daughter was hanging around with that dude, you're like, oh, shit.
Are you watching this?
You see what's going on?
This guy?
unidentified
Really?
Really?
michael schiavello
Can you imagine a dad watching you?
Yeah.
joe rogan
But he's even creepier to me than Hefner.
There's something super creepy about that.
michael schiavello
See, I've been to Met Hefner.
I would love to go to the Playboy Mansion though, man.
joe rogan
I've been there.
It's not that big a deal.
It's just a house in the hills.
It's kind of like dated.
I mean, I guess it's like retro, but the grotto has like this old circuit box, this old phone.
I mean, it's a dope house.
It's a beautiful piece of land.
I'm not saying it's not.
I'm just saying when you get there, you're like, oh, this is just kind of a cool house in the hills.
It's just one of those things where everybody likes to put parties there.
And so that's what they kind of sell it as.
michael schiavello
They have those fight nights there too, right?
joe rogan
Strikeforce has done it.
I've been to...
michael schiavello
They had one a few weeks ago that was kickboxing and boxing.
Really?
Because Andrew Simon from HTN went to the party.
joe rogan
Well, in that way, it's kind of a cool place to go.
To go see something there, yeah, it's kind of cool.
But I've been to parties there before.
I guess they get crazy.
That's what...
michael schiavello
Dude, tomorrow I go to New York for the first time.
joe rogan
Yeah?
michael schiavello
I've never been to New York.
All the times I've been here to the US, I've never been to New York.
So tomorrow I go to New York for five nights, man.
joe rogan
When you drive up the West Side Highway and you just see the enormity of the city as it starts to rise in front of you, play Star Wars music while you're doing it.
For real.
michael schiavello
Really?
joe rogan
Ask if you could drive in on the West Side Highway, if that's possible, and ask if you could play the Star Wars music.
unidentified
Awesome.
joe rogan
The first time I drove there from Boston, I couldn't fucking believe how big it was.
unidentified
Crazy.
joe rogan
The first time I was in the city...
Well, I went twice.
I went once for a karate tournament in Madison Square Garden back in 1982 or something like that.
michael schiavello
You fought in it?
joe rogan
Yeah.
michael schiavello
So you can say you fought at the Garden.
joe rogan
Yeah, there was a karate tournament there.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And then there was...
I think it might have been...
I don't know if it was...
There's like two parts to the Garden.
There's a smaller part and a bigger part.
I don't know how much space they had.
I was young.
I barely remember it.
But when I came back to do...
As a stand-up, I was...
You know, much more aware of what was going on.
And when I drove up, I drove up the West Side Highway and saw it for the first time.
I remember going, God damn!
How fucking big is this?
Like, why did they keep building here?
michael schiavello
Have you been to Tokyo?
joe rogan
No.
michael schiavello
You haven't been yet.
You're going to come with me to K1. And when you see Tokyo, it is fantastic.
It's fucking insane.
It's like that.
Tokyo can drive for 40 minutes or an hour and it's still built up.
Skyscrapers, they never fucking end.
You look out your window and all the way to the fucking horizon, all you see is concrete.
It is fucking...
Tokyo is insane.
joe rogan
Is it bigger than New York?
michael schiavello
I think it's bigger land-wise.
Really?
Well, there's 30 million people in Tokyo.
30 million motherfuckers in Tokyo, man.
And still nobody jaywalks.
Can you imagine?
You've got Shibuya Crossing, the busiest crossing in the world, and fucking thousands upon thousands of people, but in Japan, no one jaywalks.
I've been walking to breakfast at 4 o'clock in the morning when I'm jet-lagged, 4, 4.30 in the morning, there's not a car in sight for fucking miles, and I'll be standing next to a businessman, and he still will not jaywalk.
Even at 4.30 in the morning, we'll wait for the little man to turn green.
joe rogan
Why is that?
michael schiavello
They're fucking weird like zombies over there.
Everything is regimented.
On the streets, no one screams.
No one swears.
No one beeps their horns.
There's no graffiti.
Everyone smiles to each other.
Everyone is courteous to each other.
It is like a fucking mind-boggling, overly polite utopia if you're into that sort of thing.
If you could speak English, it'd be amazing if they spoke English.
It is insane.
The culture is insane.
At the fight shows, you've seen the fights.
Yeah, super.
unidentified
Pin drop.
joe rogan
Yeah.
michael schiavello
You can hear a pin drop.
joe rogan
60,000 people.
michael schiavello
45,000 at Dynamite last year.
We used to do 80,000 for K1. 80,000.
56,000 when we were in Osaka.
unidentified
Jesus Christ.
michael schiavello
And still they appreciate moves and you get golf clap.
unidentified
Wow.
michael schiavello
You get a fucking golf clap.
It's an amazing culture, man.
The Tokyo experience, I want you to come with me one day, and you'll fucking love it.
joe rogan
Well, I would love to go see K1. I've always wanted to see K1 Grand Prix live.
I've always wanted to see that.
It's got to be.
I'm a big fan of it, and that's one of the reasons why I love HDNet fights.
It's like, fuck.
Finally, Mayhem and I were talking about it when we did Inside MMA. I saw that with the Cuban.
michael schiavello
How good was Mark Cuban on that?
joe rogan
It was great.
We were talking about how it used to be.
If you wanted to watch K1, you had to get these fucking grainy VHS tapes or get some shit off the internet.
But now you can watch it in high def, you know?
It's fucking awesome.
michael schiavello
It's scary watching some of that.
joe rogan
People don't know how exciting that is who don't know K1. You have no idea how fucking exciting it is.
You know, because most of what people like in the UFC is striking.
That's what the average person likes striking.
People boo when shit goes to the ground.
It happens all the time.
For those people that are just like, they just want to watch some violence, what the fuck is more violent than K1? And who the fuck is more violent than Alistair Overy, man?
michael schiavello
God damn!
Scary!
joe rogan
Somebody in Cracked.com wrote that he looks like he was genetically engineered to fuck your girlfriend.
I'm pretty sure it was crack.com.
I hope I'm crediting the right people.
michael schiavello
Oh, man.
joe rogan
That's exactly what he looks like.
michael schiavello
Dude is fucking freaking.
Which leads me to the question now.
Because when we spoke last time on The Voice Versus, the whole rage then was Fedor versus Brock.
And we spoke a lot about Fedor versus Brock.
And you know, after Fedor losing to Verdum, that fight's lost its luster completely.
So now everyone is like, Overeem versus Brock.
joe rogan
Yeah.
michael schiavello
Dude, what do you think, man?
joe rogan
I want to see Overeem versus Fedor, too.
michael schiavello
I want to see that.
Alistair wants that fight.
Badly.
Like, he is all over.
We did The Voice versus Alistair Overeem.
We shot it in Korea.
And, man, he really wants to fight fight.
joe rogan
You know what?
Here's the thing with Alistair Overeem.
You gotta fucking take him down.
There's all that talk of standing.
There's all out the window now.
It used to be the guys could stand without Alistair.
Like, Chuck stood with him for a bit.
Chuck actually shot in for a takedown with him.
The problem with Al Star was always that he was trying to make 205. That was always the problem.
And he wasn't dedicated like he is now.
But once that motherfucker went up to heavyweight and started getting dedicated, he's scary as fuck.
michael schiavello
But the thing is, last weekend he knocked out Ben Edwards.
Ben's an Aussie and I've been commentating him for like 6-7 years.
unidentified
Overmatched.
michael schiavello
Tough fucker though, right?
Tough fucker.
joe rogan
He's a very tough guy.
michael schiavello
Alistair dropped him three times, but three clean shots.
And the thing is that usually Alistair would get away with a lot because of his strength and his size alone.
But now his technique is just superb, man.
And, you know, he was training in Thailand for like three weeks at the Golden Glory Gym in Thailand, doing proper Muay Thai training.
They've got the Thai trainers there helping them out.
And you can tell that he's just lifted his game to another fucking level.
joe rogan
Dude, he's spooky right now.
He's spooky.
His stand-up is spooky.
michael schiavello
Yeah.
joe rogan
I love the fact that he goes back and forth, though.
I love the fact that he goes into MMA and back and forth.
michael schiavello
To respect him, man.
Probably the only guy doing it at that high level.
joe rogan
No one else.
Of course, he's the highest level.
For sure.
No question.
There's no one even that compares to the level of K1 that he's achieved and the level of MMA. Because we've always had guys who say, oh, he's a really good striker.
And they are for MMA. But Alistar's a really good striker for K1. Exactly.
michael schiavello
Dude, when he put it to Brett Rogers, I was like...
joe rogan
He threw him, man!
michael schiavello
He fucking threw him!
joe rogan
It was that, but it was before he threw him, he was fucking him up on his feet.
He hit Brett Rogers with...
He ducked under a right hand and hit him with a leg kick and then popped out of the way.
And you could see the look on Rogers' face.
He was like...
michael schiavello
Rogers was like, what the fuck am I doing here?
joe rogan
He was a jolt.
Yeah.
Oh, shit.
Like, you know, nobody ever kicked him like that before.
michael schiavello
Dude, to me, it was just like, you know what?
I'll just bend over and you can fuck me in the ass because it's going to be less painful than the beating you're about to put on me.
joe rogan
That motherfucker just digs that shin into that meat.
unidentified
Ba-boom!
Boom!
joe rogan
And there was that look on Roger's face.
Like, for a second, you saw this flash.
Like, god damn, he just got hit by lightning.
michael schiavello
Fuck.
Alistair's a freak.
I hope he cleans up on the K1 Grand Prix.
joe rogan
That's a big problem to me that there's all these organizations.
If there was just the UFC... We would know who's the best!
But Alistair would not have gotten to become Alistair if it wasn't for fighting all these other organizations.
I mean, there's not enough fights in the UFC. There's not enough shows.
There's only so many shows.
We need other organizations.
But I just wish they could fucking just figure out a way to work it out where they get to fight each other.
michael schiavello
Just all come together as friends forever.
For one night.
joe rogan
For one night.
The problem is...
michael schiavello
And then maybe you and I could commentate together finally for once.
joe rogan
One night.
The problem is the UFC is such a much bigger name and they're worth so much more money and it would lend respectability to Strikeforce, which would build up the enemy.
You couldn't really do it, unfortunately, business-wise.
But fuck!
But yeah, let me tell you something, Brock, you know, Brock is like the perfect guy to like sell as like a heavyweight champion.
michael schiavello
Oh, fuck it.
joe rogan
You know, the fucking skull tattoo, the giant head.
michael schiavello
But you know what worried me, man, for Brock?
You think Brock fighting Alistair and the way that he turned on those punches from Karwin?
joe rogan
Oh my God, what if, yeah.
michael schiavello
If that was Alistair?
joe rogan
And how about those knees?
No one's got knees like Alistair.
Alistair knees you into fucking Pluto.
michael schiavello
The one he fucked Fujita with on New Year's Eve put Fujita into a mini coma.
joe rogan
Yeah, he was out for how long?
michael schiavello
He was fucking out for 10 minutes at least.
Then they took him to hospital and he went into a mini coma at hospital.
He was fucked.
And Alistair said to me, because I said to him, I go, dude, do you ever feel any remorse for just fucking smashing people's faces and brains with those knees?
And he goes, yeah.
He goes, Fujita?
He goes, I actually felt really bad after I did it.
unidentified
Wow.
michael schiavello
I'm like, what about Teixeira, man?
You almost killed that fucker in the Grand Prix.
I thought Teixeira was dead.
He's like, yeah, Teixeira was harsh.
He goes, but Fujita, he actually was troubled by it.
He felt really sorry.
joe rogan
Well, I think it was because Fujita had already been knocked out and been stopped a few times.
michael schiavello
And he was old.
He was a legend.
His body didn't look the same anymore.
joe rogan
His body clearly didn't look the same anymore.
He didn't look like an athlete anymore.
michael schiavello
That was just fucking violent.
And remember when he fought James Thompson in Dream?
unidentified
Yeah.
michael schiavello
He does a standing guillotine.
joe rogan
Yep.
michael schiavello
And he just said the muscles.
unidentified
He just like...
michael schiavello
He walks him back.
joe rogan
He's fucking tapped Vitor, man.
He tapped Vitor.
michael schiavello
Fucking awesome.
joe rogan
Who else has tapped Vitor with a guillotine, you know?
Alistar's nasty, bro.
He's an animal, man.
michael schiavello
He's a fucking animal.
joe rogan
He's nasty.
You know what?
Brock Lesnar versus Alistar would be a dream match, but Brock's got to get past Cain Velasquez.
michael schiavello
Dude, that is ripe for...
I wouldn't call it an upset.
I was about to say it's ripe for an upset, but I don't call it an upset if Kane beats Brock.
Because Kane has all the weapons to be able to beat Brock, man.
joe rogan
Kane might be the motherfucker.
He might be the motherfucker.
I think Brock is a handful for any man on the planet.
He proved in that last fight that he's got a serious ability to overcome adversity and still gut it out and make it through.
He didn't tap.
He didn't freak out.
He covered himself up.
He protected himself.
And he was getting bombed on by, other than him, the biggest, strongest fucking guy in the division, who's definitely the best puncher in the division.
No one punches as hard as Carwin.
He's got wrecking balls.
He just dropped bumps.
So he got through all that, made it through that first round, and then came out and won it immediately into the second.
So he's overcome adversity.
He believes in himself.
He's a winner.
That's all well and good, though.
Cain Velasquez is a fucking storm.
Here's something that Bob Cook said.
They were talking about one of the fights.
Cain had just fucking...
I think it was Rothwell.
Just ran him over.
And he said, well, the thing with fighting Kane is you always think that you're just going to ride out the storm.
And he goes, but the storm doesn't end.
That is what that guy does when the storm doesn't end.
It's just punches and kicks and punches and kicks and fucking takedowns and punches and kicks and punches and kicks.
And you're like, where is this motherfucker getting all this cardio from?
michael schiavello
And he does it all with power, man.
That's the scary thing.
It's all fucking with power.
joe rogan
And he doesn't fade, man.
He doesn't fade.
He comes out strong in the third.
When he molested Czech Congo, and that's what that match was.
That was a three-round molestation.
I mean, he took bombs.
Bombed.
Big shots on the jaw.
Knees buckle.
Almost goes down.
And then three seconds later, he's executed the takedown.
He's in side control.
And he's smashing him.
You know?
I mean, that was just like...
That was overwhelming, man.
It was overwhelming what he did to that guy.
He's a motherfucker, dude.
michael schiavello
I can't wait for that.
I can't wait to see Tito come back.
I'm looking forward to that as well.
But, man, Brock and Cain.
joe rogan
Brock and Cain is going to be nuts.
michael schiavello
Sorry, Brock and Cain.
And then, man, I want to see Alistair versus Brock.
One day.
joe rogan
Of course.
I want to see Alistair.
I mean, I would like to see Alistair clean out Strikeforce, too.
I think if Alistair can beat Verdum, that would be a huge rematch.
michael schiavello
I don't think there's anyone in Strikeforce, honestly, that will touch him.
joe rogan
Well, we'll see, man.
Verdum gets him on the ground.
I bet Verdum has a say in that.
I bet he would try to tap Alistar.
I bet he thinks he can.
He's capable of doing it.
Didn't he do it before?
Didn't he tap Alistar?
michael schiavello
He did, but like, what, Pride 2007 or 2005?
He's a different guy.
joe rogan
That's true.
But guess what?
Different Verdum, too.
Yeah.
Verdum just getting off of that victory over Fedor, he thinks he can tap anybody.
He'll jump and fucking guard you.
He'll fly and guard on you just to try to lock you up in his legs.
michael schiavello
You know, I was there that night at Strikeforce when Fedor tapped.
That was surreal shit, dude.
Watching that ringside, that was surreal.
joe rogan
I bet.
I would have liked to have seen that one live.
unidentified
It was sad.
michael schiavello
It was crazy.
joe rogan
Why sad?
No big deal.
He just got caught.
I think it's happy.
It's happy that Verdum pulled it off.
Verdum's a bad motherfucker.
Yeah, that's not sad.
The bottom line is the only way to get through a guard like Verdum's is you've got to train with a guy like Verdum.
If he was training with guys like Verdum, we would hear about it.
We would hear, oh, he just went down and he's spending three weeks with Minotaro.
Minotaro's going to work on his guard.
You don't hear about all that shit.
So he's basically working with these guys that are pretty good.
They're decent.
And he's got so much confidence because he's undefeated in ten years.
And he thinks he can just fall into Verdum's guard and he'll just punch him in the face.
You can't do that with Verdum.
michael schiavello
Yeah, it was a cardinal mistake, man.
joe rogan
Verdum just has a guard that's on another level.
You don't appreciate...
I've rolled with guys like Verdum before.
Not that level, but like Jean-Jacques Machado.
He's that level as far as international.
And they just run through you.
michael schiavello
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, just slap shit on you.
And if you haven't felt that level, if you're not in there all the time training with that, you know, you can get overconfident.
Like, I bet anybody that Fedor puts in his guard or they get in, you know, when Fedor gets in someone's guard in his camp, I bet he just runs through them.
I bet he just postures up, breaks through.
Nobody probably taps him with triangles.
michael schiavello
No, no way not.
joe rogan
He slaps that shit on like a fucking octopus from hell.
michael schiavello
Just whoosh!
joe rogan
Just like, bitch, you ain't going nowhere.
michael schiavello
Just fucking taunt him up.
joe rogan
Just adjusts and attacks and adjusts and attacks.
And every time Fedor defends, he gets deeper in the hole.
michael schiavello
And Fedor held on for as long as he could, man.
But when he tapped, it was like, oh my god, he's fucking tapping.
joe rogan
Yeah, he was going to get his arm broken.
His arm was about to go.
Fedor, he's a bad motherfucker, but he just made a mistake.
Everybody needs to work with the best guys.
It used to be that you could be able to have this little camp, and it was just you and a couple other guys that you train with, but I don't think you can rock it like that anymore.
I think the level's just gotten too high.
Everyone's got to train with the best guys.
michael schiavello
Well, this is the reason why Golden Glory in Holland have so much success in K1 and also mixed martial arts because the best guys are there.
joe rogan
And they'll fight each other.
michael schiavello
And they'll fight each other.
joe rogan
Like Sammy Schilt and Alistair, they're going to fight each other.
michael schiavello
They're going to fight each other.
And they'll go for broke.
Errol Zimmermann fought Sammy Schilt earlier this year and he went for broke.
We went for broke on semi, you know, and they're both from the same gym.
And when they spar together over in Holland, their sparring sessions are as hard as K1 fights.
They have like this day they call Meet Wednesday.
And everyone on Wednesday just goes in the gym and just beats the fuck out of each other like a K1 style fight.
And these guys are best mates.
So Saki will beat on Zimmerman.
The two best mates will beat the fuck out of each other.
joe rogan
Is that smart?
michael schiavello
You know?
That's how they train in Holland, but that's not only a golden glory, that's at every Dutch gym.
It's always been the Dutch style.
The ties are completely opposite.
joe rogan
The ties will go light in sparring.
michael schiavello
The ties will go light in sparring.
Heavy on pad work, ties are always ferocious on fucking pads and on bags, but in sparring, the ties spar light.
The Dutch go light on the bags and the pads, but they fucking cane each other in sparring.
joe rogan
That's such a Dutch way of approaching things.
michael schiavello
It's just amazing.
And then you've got guys like, you know, one of the sparring partners is Ramon Deckers, man.
unidentified
Right.
michael schiavello
I mean, Ramon Deckers may be the greatest Muay Thai fighter ever.
And he's Golden Glory, one of the head trainers.
Him and Core Hemmers.
It's an amazing team.
joe rogan
Yeah, Deckers is a bad motherfucker.
michael schiavello
Dude, when it was Deckers and Rob Kamen, remember those days?
joe rogan
I trained with Rob Kamen.
I trained with Rob a bunch of times.
michael schiavello
Rob is a fucking legend, man.
His elbows were phenomenal, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, everything about him.
His leg kicks, everything.
And he's a super cool guy.
Rob Kamen is like the nicest, friendliest guy, man.
michael schiavello
One of my mates trains, or used to train with him, Costas Mandalore, the actor.
joe rogan
Yeah, I know who that guy is.
michael schiavello
Yeah, I'm going to meet Cosi in New York.
He's over there promoting Saw, the new Saw film that he's got, Saw 3D, so we're going to catch up.
Man, he's been friends with Rob for years, and he's like, dude's fucking badass to train with.
joe rogan
Such a great guy, too.
A lot of Holland people are nutty, man.
Holland's a crazy place, huh?
The red light district.
michael schiavello
The red light district.
joe rogan
Last time I was there was 2007. And you could just get weed in the coffee shop.
I've never been.
michael schiavello
Anyway, Peter Ertz took us out for the night.
Peter likes to party, right?
Took Ray and myself.
joe rogan
And if you don't know who Peter Ertz is, he's a multiple-time K-1 champion.
michael schiavello
Three-time K-1 world champion.
joe rogan
Bad motherfucker.
Still in there slinging dick.
michael schiavello
40 years old and he still qualifies for the Grand Prix.
joe rogan
He looked fucking good, man.
michael schiavello
Fucking incredible, man.
joe rogan
His body was yoked.
It looked like he's obviously been trained like a motherfucker.
unidentified
Just insane.
joe rogan
What keeps that guy going, man?
michael schiavello
One of the nicest human beings I've ever fucking met.
joe rogan
Super nice.
michael schiavello
He greets me with a hug all the time.
He's always laughing.
He took us out in 2007. It was me, Ray Sefo, and a few of Peter's mates.
Went to the Red Light District.
Dude, all the stories you've heard about the Red Light District, they're true.
joe rogan
Well, Peter Ertz is smoking weed all day.
michael schiavello
Peter Wertz had a fucking case of joints in his pocket that he would rip out.
And his best mate opened the third ever coffee house in Amsterdam in like 1967. So he was like a pioneer of weed in Amsterdam, right?
joe rogan
Don't you think people would be surprised if they found out how many high-level fighters and MMA guys smoke weed?
Ridiculous!
It's a big number, man.
michael schiavello
You go to the show there in Amsterdam, at Amsterdam Arena, and midway through when they have intermission, you go outside to the smoke section, and it is just fucking weed central.
unidentified
Like, you're moving through the mist of all this marijuana smoke.
michael schiavello
It is insane.
joe rogan
I've smoked weed with a lot of UFC champions.
michael schiavello
Oh, man.
unidentified
Yeah.
michael schiavello
I believe it.
I fucking believe it.
A lot of the K1 guys, a lot of the MMA guys I know.
joe rogan
A lot of bad motherfuckers like that weed.
michael schiavello
A lot of fucking Nick Diaz is not the only one.
joe rogan
Yeah, Nick Diaz had the greatest quote of all time.
Nick Diaz is fighting tonight.
We're going to see it in half an hour.
Nick Diaz had the greatest quote of all time.
He said, I don't think pot is getting in the way of my MMA career.
I think MMA is getting in the way of my pot smoking.
michael schiavello
I love it, man.
joe rogan
That's a fucking great quote.
unidentified
I think fighting's getting in the way of my weed smoking.
michael schiavello
When you see that video that Diaz put on YouTube after I did The Voice vs Mayhem, and he's driving, and he does that video, and he puts the camera down and does this.
unidentified
I'm like, how much fucking pot do you actually fucking smoke, man?
joe rogan
That was crazy funny.
I'm a Nick Diaz fan to the bone.
Him and his brother.
I love those dudes.
michael schiavello
Unbelievable, man.
joe rogan
Those dudes are entertaining.
They're wild motherfuckers.
michael schiavello
I'd like to go to Amsterdam with those two in the red light district.
joe rogan
Are you kidding me?
michael schiavello
They would be running through all the cafes for all the fucking hookers in the windows.
Oh, man.
You can order anything over there.
joe rogan
We might be the first people to die from weed.
We might fuck up the whole cause.
michael schiavello
Dude, the weed is a menu.
It's like you go to a restaurant here, you get a giant menu there, it's a menu of weed.
You've got, like, I'd say about 30 variations to choose from.
joe rogan
Well, we have that here.
michael schiavello
It's crazy.
joe rogan
You know, we have that in these medical places.
I'll take you to one.
I'll take you to one when we're leaving here.
michael schiavello
Hell yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, you gotta go.
You gotta see this, because it's the craziest thing ever.
michael schiavello
Can I get a cap like Johnny Drama did in Entourage?
Fuck yeah, son.
joe rogan
I'm sorry you can, son.
michael schiavello
Shit, yeah.
joe rogan
They got lollipops, soda.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, all kinds of candies, cookies, cakes, brownies.
michael schiavello
Do you need a holland?
Yeah, mushrooms.
joe rogan
And just a big chalkboard.
michael schiavello
Cocaine, you can buy it all, man.
joe rogan
A big chalkboard, like one of those dry erase boards, filled with different strains, and this is how much it is an ounce, as much as an eighth.
michael schiavello
Amazing, man.
joe rogan
Dude, they have 50, 60 varieties.
unidentified
Crazy.
joe rogan
Yeah, everywhere, all the time.
Like, sativas, very difficult to grow.
It's harder to grow than indica.
Sativas?
Sativas.
Sativas is like space weed.
Well, you go to the place near my house, 10 different varieties.
michael schiavello
Oh, really?
That's insane!
joe rogan
10 different varieties of sativa.
michael schiavello
That's crazy.
unidentified
It's hard.
joe rogan
Sativa, and when you're living in the East Coast where it's illegal, hard as fuck to get a good sativa.
You've got to know somebody who's a grower, that's willing to take a chance to make a superior weed.
It takes more time, and so it costs more money, and the yield is smaller.
michael schiavello
Dude, when I was in Amsterdam, I smoked a vaporized bong and it fucked me because Peter goes, hey Mikey, try this, try this.
It's a bong and I hate smoking, but I don't smoke much anyway and I've smoked bongs a couple of times.
To me, they feel dirty, right?
So he's put this thing to my mouth and I'm like...
Peter, I can't see anything here.
No effect, nothing.
He goes, no, no, no, do it again.
It's like, Peter, I can't fucking...
I don't think it's lit, nothing.
unidentified
I'm like...
michael schiavello
Oh, fuck!
I was like, what the fuck was that?
joe rogan
Because it comes out, it's mist.
michael schiavello
Right, you couldn't see it, it's invisible!
joe rogan
For people who don't know, what a vaporizer does is it heats the THC to a point where it doesn't burn the plant material, but it burns off the THC and makes a vapor out of it.
michael schiavello
Invisible!
You cannot see it.
joe rogan
Well, you can sort of see it.
michael schiavello
I didn't know I was breathing...
Exhaling any smoke?
Nothing.
joe rogan
You sort of see it, but it looks like not much.
You get used to it.
You smoke a joint.
You take a deep breath.
You blow it out.
There's a big cloud in front of you.
This is not a big cloud.
michael schiavello
I was expecting a big cloud.
I wanted Hiroshima cloud.
joe rogan
It's a pure sensation, too.
michael schiavello
Dude, it was crazy.
Crazy, man.
joe rogan
It was crazy.
There's something in the burning of the plant, too.
I wonder if that has a psychoactive effect.
I wonder if there's a psychoactive effect from the actual burning of the leaves.
Maybe together, those things, maybe it calms you a bit or something.
michael schiavello
Because there's hundreds of different Do you think there are leaves out there, though, and shit out there that no one has thought to smoke that is yet to be discovered as smokeable?
Do you think there's mud or dirt out there that someone could maybe roll into a fucking piece of paper and smoke it, and no one's smoked that mud or that fucking seashell or that fucking sea urchin that you can smoke it?
There's got to be shit out there that no one has discovered you can smoke it.
There's probably a few things.
joe rogan
For sure, plants.
I mean, if you look at the Amazon...
michael schiavello
Wasn't marijuana discovered like weed discovered from goats eating it?
joe rogan
Really?
michael schiavello
Like fucking in ancient days goats were eating it and then goats were swaying in the paddocks.
So the farmers are like, hmm, the goats eat this strange looking weed and they stumble in paddock.
We must try to eat it.
joe rogan
Where the hell did you hear that?
michael schiavello
That's what one of my friends was telling me.
It might be another Aussie urban legend, but I heard it was goats discovered weed.
joe rogan
Yeah, that doesn't even make sense.
michael schiavello
The goats were high on...
I don't fucking know, man.
You're telling me there's 10 different types of ceviches, whatever it is?
unidentified
Sativas.
michael schiavello
It's a sativas.
unidentified
Ceviche.
joe rogan
That's fish.
That's fish cooked with lime.
michael schiavello
All I know is when I did that vaporized bong...
20 minutes later, I was in a place called Banana Bar and some fucking dirty hooker was shooting these giant dildos out of her pussy and hitting me in the chest.
And I would keep backing up five paces and she was shooting these giant dildos like thick fucking things out of her pussy and hitting me always smack on the chest.
joe rogan
Oh my God.
michael schiavello
And then another one would come over and she had like a texter, like a marker.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah.
michael schiavello
She goes, what's your name?
I go, Michael.
So she had a postcard, and she sticks the marker in her pussy, hovers over the postcard, and dude, with perfect penmanship, in perfect fucking cursive writing, right?
She writes, to Michael, love, banana bar.
unidentified
Like, on the fucking postcard from her pussy.
michael schiavello
Perfect penmanship.
joe rogan
How does the whole postcard stay in place?
michael schiavello
I've still got it at home.
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
How does it stay in place?
Does she hold it with her toes?
michael schiavello
No, it's a heel.
joe rogan
Her heel.
michael schiavello
Because she squatted over it.
joe rogan
So one heel holds the postcard in place.
michael schiavello
One heel holds the postcard as her pussy does this and writes perfectly to Michael Love Banana Bar.
It was a fucking incredible night, man.
joe rogan
I wonder what made them come up with that.
I wonder if they're wondering, we need something new for this business.
We are not getting enough people in here.
michael schiavello
No, but I wonder if this is a type of shit the girls do at slumber parties when they're young.
Yeah, they're a little bit drunk or maybe it's like, hey, let's stick a fucking pin in our pussy and try and write our names.
joe rogan
Maybe.
Yeah, if you're hanging out with a bunch of freaks.
michael schiavello
How do you discover this talent?
I wanted to go to that girl and go, how did you know?
At what age do you know you can write with your pussy in perfect cursive?
joe rogan
If I had to guess, I would guess that there would...
Something, whatever the equation was, involved a dude and money.
That's how...
A pen got up your pussy.
Either that or you did a favor for him, but it's a dude.
A dude's asking you to do that.
unidentified
He had you bound and gagged and he left you in a hotel room and all he stuck was a pen in your pussy.
joe rogan
Write me a letter with your pussy.
When I look at it, I know that it's your pussy that wrote that.
Come on.
Alright, I can't even write with my pussy.
michael schiavello
I've seen some fucked up shit.
joe rogan
You can write with your pussy.
unidentified
You gotta just learn.
michael schiavello
Then what about the girls on Macau?
Have you ever been to Macau?
joe rogan
What is Macau?
michael schiavello
Macau's like a 45 minute boat ride from Hong Kong.
It's between China and Hong Kong.
joe rogan
Okay.
michael schiavello
It's a tiny casino island.
joe rogan
No, I haven't been to that part of the world at all.
michael schiavello
Yeah, it's like the Vegas of Asia.
It's a crazy madhouse casino island.
unidentified
So it sucks.
michael schiavello
It's fucking insane.
But I've seen some dirty-ass sex shows in Macau where this one chick had the darts in her pussy, and there were balloons up on the ceiling, and with pinpoint fucking sniper precision, she would lean back, fire a dart, pop the...
Balloons one after the other.
Jesus Christ.
Another chick had razor blades, right, strung together, and she reaches into her vag and pulls out this line of razor blades one after the other.
And you're thinking, oh, that's bullshit.
They're just made of plastic or something.
Then she grabs the razor blades and to show one of the ones that came out of her pussy gets a piece of paper, slices a piece of paper.
unidentified
Oh.
michael schiavello
I'm like, that's fucking sick.
joe rogan
Yeah, you know, that's funny that you just brought that up because there was a conversation we had on here last week about the hookers in Vietnam, whether or not they really did put razor blades up their pussy.
michael schiavello
I've seen it.
I have seen it in the cow.
unidentified
Well, you've seen a razor blade.
michael schiavello
Razor blades come out of the pussy.
joe rogan
So they easily could have done that to GIs, like stuck a razor blade in there and then the guy fucks them and cuts their dick in half.
unidentified
Oh!
michael schiavello
Oh man, one of my mates in Australia fingered a girl in a club once and he went to finger her and he felt scabs inside her pussy.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
michael schiavello
She had scabs in her pussy.
Oh my god.
joe rogan
Yeah, I know.
michael schiavello
I was like, he said hello to me to shake my hand.
I was like, dude, I ain't fucking touching that hand.
Put a fucking glove on.
unidentified
Oh my god.
michael schiavello
Scabs in her pussy, man.
joe rogan
What are you sticking in your box, honey?
michael schiavello
Yeah, exactly right.
There's some evil shit going on down there.
Girls say the guy's balls look disgusting and wrinkled and shit, but man, some girls sometimes need to get a mirror and stand over it and look down and see how fucked up their vagus look.
Because some girls have got some fucked up pussies happening, man.
unidentified
Really?
michael schiavello
The ones that have the big flappy fucking larvae on them.
unidentified
I like that.
joe rogan
I like flappy lips.
michael schiavello
Like fucking curtains like that.
I like that.
Dude.
joe rogan
I like that.
michael schiavello
Man.
I've seen ones that fucking hang down like that, man.
joe rogan
It's like...
unidentified
What the fuck?
joe rogan
The trippiest thing ever is when you look at female bodybuilders and you see the little dicks that they're growing.
michael schiavello
The clit!
Because of the roids.
Because I used to edit a bodybuilding magazine back in the day.
So I used to interview a lot of female bodybuilders.
And their clit comes like that.
Like a small dick.
joe rogan
But...
michael schiavello
They are.
I never fucked any bodybuilders before I was told being in the industry is like they are the horniest fucking cunts out there.
joe rogan
Because they're on testosterone.
michael schiavello
And because all you need to do is touch their big penis clitoris and they basically have an orgasm.
Like insanely sexually...
Sexually excited creatures all the time.
joe rogan
Sometimes the doctor will put a woman on testosterone for something, like some sort of an ailment.
michael schiavello
Usually they've got skin disease when they're young.
The girls will go on steroids, on testosterone.
It's a shame because one of my friends...
She's a photographer back home.
And when she was young, I've seen photos of her.
She was a beautiful, beautiful young girl.
But then she started to develop skin problems and bad acne that was something hormonal.
And she had to go on steroids to get rid of it.
And then now she's fucking fucked up ugly.
Like bad, the poor thing.
She's fucked up.
joe rogan
She looks like a man.
michael schiavello
Our nickname for her behind her back is Animal.
She looks like a fucking animal.
But yeah, she used to be beautiful.
She was hot when she was young.
How young?
You know, when she...
Hot.
She was fucking eight, nine years old.
joe rogan
Dude, what the fuck is wrong with you?
michael schiavello
She was a cute kid.
joe rogan
What the fuck is wrong with you?
michael schiavello
You know, she was a cute kid.
joe rogan
Well, there are some girls, though, that start out really pretty, and then some monkey wrench goes along the way, and then the design of the universe decides to take it back when you're not hot anymore.
I've seen that happen.
Girls were really pretty when they were like 13 or 14, and then you graduate high school, and you run into them when they're like 22, 23, and you're like, what happened?
michael schiavello
I saw the girl that I used to fantasize over in high school, Lisa, right?
And she was like the girl that everyone wanted to fuck in high school.
She was the it girl.
She was the like...
The one.
And I recently chatted to another friend of mine on Facebook that was at the girls' school that was sister school to our school back then.
And I was talking about this Lisa girl.
I'm like, I wonder what Lisa's doing now.
I wonder if she's still hot.
She goes, oh, I saw Lisa recently.
She's got three kids and I've got a photo of her.
Do you want to see it?
I'm like, yeah, bring it on.
Dude, she was fucking disgusting.
I'm like, no way that's Lisa.
My friend's like, that's what your it girl looks like now.
joe rogan
Do you think that she does the same thing every time she watches K1? That's Michael Chivero!
unidentified
I'm so glad I didn't fuck him!
michael schiavello
Look at that cocksucker!
unidentified
I'm so glad!
michael schiavello
You know what the thing is, man?
I weighed myself this morning.
joe rogan
Yeah?
Were you happy with the results?
michael schiavello
I was, because I've lost a lot of weight recently.
joe rogan
How much have you lost?
michael schiavello
Probably this year I've lost about 11 kilos.
joe rogan
What's that, 24 pounds?
michael schiavello
Yeah, about 24 pounds.
I haven't had this least weight since high school.
So back then I was fucking huge, man.
Like a lot bigger than I am now.
A lot, lot bigger.
joe rogan
That's awesome.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Kevin James has lost like almost 50 pounds.
michael schiavello
Dude, I love Kevin James.
joe rogan
He's a great guy.
michael schiavello
You know, Irene had no idea who he was.
joe rogan
Really?
michael schiavello
Before we came here today, we were watching King of Queens was on TV and she's laughing her ass off.
And I go, hey, you know he's really good mates with Joe.
She goes, Joe Rogan?
I go, yeah, Joe knows him really well.
He's like in a movie of his and their management's the same.
They're really close mates.
And she goes, oh, who is he?
I go, it's Kevin James.
joe rogan
She probably just never saw the sitcom.
michael schiavello
Just yet.
joe rogan
But he's been in so many movies too now.
michael schiavello
I mean, the sitcom was in Australia as well, but she just didn't know.
joe rogan
Sometimes you don't know.
Sometimes someone will talk to me about some singer, like, oh my god, Blah Blah Blah is playing here.
michael schiavello
Blah Blah Blah is really good, man.
I think Blah Blah Blah is playing in New York next week.
joe rogan
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, exactly.
And you'll be like, what are you talking about?
Who is this?
And then you find out they've sold like 50 million albums all over the world.
michael schiavello
I didn't know who Justin Bieber was.
Everyone's got Justin Bieber, Justin Bieber.
I'm like, who the fuck is this Justin Bieber?
joe rogan
Some poor little fuck.
michael schiavello
Yeah.
And then I heard the song on the radio.
I'm like...
Doing this one in the clothing store wherever I was.
And I'm up to Irene and I go, who is this?
She goes, this is Justin Bieber.
I go, this is the fucking little kid that everyone's talking about.
Why am I dancing?
unidentified
Stop.
joe rogan
Dude, I'm watching a video and he gets hit in the head with a bottle.
unidentified
That's brilliant.
joe rogan
Somebody throws a water bottle and hits him in the head and then people think it's funny.
And everybody's like passing it back and forth on Facebook.
I'm like, listen, you're looking at a little vulnerable 12-year-old kid who's probably some grown cunt.
Has thrown a water bottle at...
I mean, who's thrown a water bottle at some little boy?
michael schiavello
Good luck to the little fucker man.
He's fucked.
joe rogan
He's fucked.
michael schiavello
But, you know what I saw?
joe rogan
For this crazy charge at a young age, his development will be forever skewed.
michael schiavello
But, bro, I already saw in the bookshop the biography of Justin Bieber.
The kid's like 14. How much of a biography can you write?
What have you done?
Has he even fucking got a head job yet?
unidentified
What?
michael schiavello
What if it was all true?
joe rogan
Has he even shaved?
Has he got pubes?
What if we start talking about chicks?
He fucks.
Just makes the Justin Bieber pussy diary.
He's like, 15, just able to secure a real solid boner for the first time in my life.
I think I'm going to go out and use it.
michael schiavello
Just discovered his first pubic hair and photographs it and puts it in the center of the book.
joe rogan
And the poor kid, he's very small.
michael schiavello
Yeah.
joe rogan
Very small.
And very small for like 14. Like, he's going to be a tiny man.
michael schiavello
Oh, little fucker.
joe rogan
You know?
But the girls right now are just like confused.
They're like, well, he's up there and he's singing and I think I want to fuck them or something.
michael schiavello
And dude, the scary thing is that this scared me.
The other day, Irene's telling me about her little cousin.
Her little cousin, she's 12 years old and she's in love with Justin Bieber.
And so she says to Irene, Justin Bieber is a friend of mine on Facebook.
And Irene's like, okay, thinking it's a group or whatever that she likes, Justin Bieber.
She goes, oh yeah, and Justin and I talk every other night and he's a really nice guy.
And I'm going to go, Irene, do you realize there's some dude posing as Justin Bieber on Facebook who your 12-year-old niece or cousin has accepted as a friend that he's talking to her and buttering up a 12-year-old every night?
Like fucking stalkers out there, pedophile motherfuckers who are disguising themselves as Justin Bieber talking to 12-year-old Aussie girls on Facebook.
joe rogan
It could just be 12-year-old boys.
michael schiavello
I thought you were going to say it could just be Justin Bieber.
joe rogan
No.
Well, it could be Justin Bieber.
unidentified
Who knows?
michael schiavello
He's fucking 12. It could just be 12-year-old boys.
joe rogan
I get on Facebook.
I go on Twitter.
I do it all the time.
Anybody could be doing it.
I know there's a lot of like, you know, like Aston Kutcher really does it.
He really goes, who's Justin Bieber's not out there Twittering chicks?
michael schiavello
I don't think that he's Twittering a 12-year-old girl in Melbourne.
joe rogan
Maybe he is.
michael schiavello
Maybe.
joe rogan
Maybe he's trying to set it up.
michael schiavello
He's trying to get his hookup for when he goes for a down-under tour.
joe rogan
I'll probably be back there in about 24 months.
By then, I'll be all blowed up.
michael schiavello
Baby, find me when you're legal.
joe rogan
You know what I'm saying?
I mean, I have it going on.
michael schiavello
Baby, come to America.
The carnal age is only 15. In Australia, you've got to wait another couple of years.
joe rogan
How old do you have to be in Australia to fuck?
michael schiavello
You can fuck at 16, but you can only fuck someone who is under 18. You can't be over 18 and fuck a 16-year-old.
joe rogan
That's smart.
michael schiavello
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's a good move.
michael schiavello
Yeah, that's a good move.
joe rogan
You're not going to stop 16-year-olds from fucking...
Sorry.
Impossible, man.
But you guys have a more relaxed attitude towards a lot of things over there.
michael schiavello
Yeah, it's much more relaxed.
joe rogan
When you got out of high school, let me ask you this, because this is the big thing in America.
I grew up in Newton, Massachusetts, and Newton was...
A lot of successful people lived there.
A lot of people who were doctors and lawyers, and they were...
Very into their kids' academic careers.
It was a school where it was a very good school, really highly rated.
And everybody was super ambitious to get out there and to go to college and to get things done.
When you guys graduated, do you feel this enormous pressure to go make something of your life?
michael schiavello
No, not really.
The college system that you have in the States doesn't exist in Australia.
joe rogan
How do you guys do it?
michael schiavello
So we go to high school, right?
Then after high school, we go to university.
But we don't have frats.
We don't live on campus.
And we don't move interstate to go to university.
In fact, in America, wherever I go, no one is ever from the state where I meet them.
It's like you're from Massachusetts or Boston.
We were originally from Massachusetts.
Okay, so you're from Massachusetts.
You live in California.
Everyone is from a different state to where they were born.
Whereas in Australia, everyone pretty much remains wherever you're born.
joe rogan
Really?
michael schiavello
You grow up, you're born in Melbourne, you grow up in Melbourne, you work in Melbourne, have a family in Melbourne, went to university in Melbourne, you'll die in Melbourne.
No one ever goes to much of the university's interstate and moves around.
Everyone is pretty much where they're from, and there's not really that feel of, I've got to go out and conquer the world and become a politician or change the world in any way.
It's like, oh, fuck it, I finished high school, I'm going to relax and drink.
joe rogan
Well, it's not even so much go out and conquer the world as don't be a fucking loser.
There's a lot of pressure.
Go out and get a fucking job.
Let's go.
michael schiavello
No, the problem is in Australia because our economy is really good at the moment.
Yours is shit and ours is really good.
Our dollar is really strong against the US dollar.
But the thing in Australia is the dole is that easy to get.
The doll is easy to get, bro.
So you can be a bludger and just claim the doll every two weeks.
joe rogan
The doll meaning welfare.
michael schiavello
Oh, doll meaning welfare.
joe rogan
Yeah.
michael schiavello
And it's decent.
I know people that live solely off the doll.
joe rogan
Really?
michael schiavello
That's it.
joe rogan
They get paid the doll.
How much do you get?
michael schiavello
Maybe a fortnight...
joe rogan
Man, you might- What is a Fortnite?
What are you fucking- Oh, sorry.
unidentified
Fortnite- You don't have that word in America?
joe rogan
What is that, Shakespeare motherfucker?
Fortnite- Fortnite is two weeks.
Maybe if my chick's watching the Tudors and I'm trying to get some pussy.
michael schiavello
A Fortnite.
You might get like $200- Might I fuck you in a Fortnite?
Might I fuck you in a Fortnite?
In the ass, darling, yes.
Maybe $200 every two weeks.
$220 every two weeks.
Highly livable.
You can live off that.
joe rogan
I guess if you had to.
michael schiavello
And that's for doing nothing.
joe rogan
Nothing.
michael schiavello
For what we call in Australia a dull bludger.
joe rogan
Wow.
michael schiavello
Yeah.
joe rogan
And there's a lot of those.
unidentified
A lot of dull bludgers.
joe rogan
Does that keep everybody calm?
So there's always something, even if you're a fucking loser, you always have something you don't have to rob and steal.
michael schiavello
Yeah.
joe rogan
Is there an argument for that?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Is there an argument for whether idiots are always going to be idiots, losers are always going to be losers?
Just if you give them a little bit of money, you know, who cares?
This way at least they have something.
michael schiavello
You hope that they're going to invest it back into the economy, but no, it's usually invested, well, unless you're a drug dealer or purchasing of alcohol.
But it's far too easy.
There's too many Dole bludgers.
joe rogan
Is that a strategy, though?
Like, let's let people be fucking losers and just take care of them, and then there'll be less crime.
Does that make sense?
michael schiavello
Yeah, I can...
joe rogan
I'm asking.
michael schiavello
I'm totally not committed to this.
No, I don't think it's a strategy.
The Dole didn't come in until, like, 1975 when there was a Labor government.
joe rogan
But if you don't have it, then people are forced to catch up, right?
People are forced to pay their own way and, you know...
michael schiavello
Yeah, and the bad thing is, though, I know a guy who's on the Dole, and...
He will not get off his ass to get a job.
He will not even go for job interviews.
He claims that he's got some disability or whatever, which he hasn't.
And it's like, dude, my fucking taxes that I work hard for my money and I've got to give money to the government, pay fucking taxes, then go in your pocket to pay you to drink alcohol and sit at home all day.
joe rogan
But I would rather give my tax money to losers and drunks and idiots and people with no ambition whatsoever than to war.
michael schiavello
I would rather...
Oh, look, I don't...
joe rogan
You know what I'm saying?
My money goes to war and there's nothing I can say about it.
michael schiavello
I'd rather put the fucking losers to work, man.
It's like, you know what?
You want the doll?
You're going to fucking go and work in this plant.
You're going to work in this factory.
You're going to fucking send these mails out.
You're going to do shit.
You're going to go volunteer in fucking hospitals.
joe rogan
That's a great idea.
michael schiavello
You know, or in canteen or somewhere where they need you and volunteer your time and your services.
joe rogan
And qualify for your doll.
Where do you think there are more losers per capita in America or in Australia?
Yeah.
Like the percentage of losers as opposed to regular people.
michael schiavello
What do you qualify as a loser?
Is a homeless person a loser just because they're homeless?
joe rogan
Fuck yeah.
You lost.
If you're homeless, you lost.
I mean, you're not going to be a loser for life.
I'm not saying that this is a death sentence.
michael schiavello
America.
joe rogan
If you're outside.
michael schiavello
You guys have got a lot.
It disappoints me for the most powerful country in the world and the great America.
Dude, it saddens me, man.
unidentified
You've got a lot of homeless people.
joe rogan
Well, that's because there's a lot of insane people.
You know, one of the reasons why the homeless population rocketed in the 1980s is because Ronald Reagan and his administration, they changed the definition of Of insanity.
So there's a lot of people that were in fucking asylums, man.
Like, well, you're alright.
We were wrong.
You're not crazy.
unidentified
Dude, just fucking get out there and get your freak on.
michael schiavello
I never understood it, man, and it saddens me now.
joe rogan
There is mental illness.
michael schiavello
My only exposure to people being homeless when I was a kid growing up and watching American TV was watching the Brady Bunch and how they used to run away from home when you were a kid.
I used to think that's how people ended up homeless, by running away from home.
joe rogan
Some people did, man.
How many people ran away from home and just became...
Fucked up in Hollywood.
Have you driven around downtown?
michael schiavello
We walked down Hollywood Boulevard the other night.
Irene's holding my hand really tight.
joe rogan
It's a lost place, bro.
That's a lost place.
When people look at Hollywood Boulevard, this is the center of show business in the world.
The fuck it is, it's a shithole.
michael schiavello
I will give you more fucked up.
Have you been to Italy?
Have you been to Rome?
joe rogan
No.
No, never.
michael schiavello
You want to see the most fucked up site in the world, brother, and this is sad?
You go to the Vatican, the most opulent place on the planet.
You have no idea the money that is fucking dripping off every building in the Vatican and the Vatican and the Catholic Church as an institution.
But immediately before you set foot in the door of the Vatican on the street, there are the most disgusting, disfigured, nailed-up beggars you will ever see.
Arms missing, fingers curled around, eyes missing and shit.
On the fucking streets outside the Vatican door, it makes me fucking sick.
joe rogan
Wow.
unidentified
Right?
michael schiavello
Because you've got that there.
There is the Vatican.
You can touch it.
There is some nailed up disfigured gypsy woman who is 80 years old and has to sleep on a sturdy cobblestone Roman street every night while the church is right fucking there.
joe rogan
Wow.
And they don't offer anything.
They don't take them in.
They don't feed them.
They don't help them.
michael schiavello
Dude, it was disgusting.
joe rogan
That's so strange.
You would think that you have to just for show.
You couldn't even allow that.
unidentified
Right?
joe rogan
Just for show.
michael schiavello
The main strip walk.
There's only one street you go to to go to the Vatican.
That main fucking via.
That main strip.
And they're there.
And they're just the most downtrodden, repulsively disgusting beggars you will ever see.
And then you're at the doorsteps of the most opulent place in the world.
It's fucking...
It does my heading, man.
joe rogan
So strange, man.
michael schiavello
It does my fucking heading.
joe rogan
It's just so strange that they feel like they could let those people be out front.
That would be bad for business, man.
michael schiavello
You would think so, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
michael schiavello
Now, apparently Berlusconi, when he came in term...
joe rogan
That's like selling BMWs and just people park wrecked, fucked up BMWs right in front of the dealership.
michael schiavello
Exactly.
The thing is that apparently someone told me that since I've been there, Berlusconi has cleaned up all the beggars and the gypsies and moved them.
But I want to know even where he's...
joe rogan
Move them to where?
michael schiavello
Where do you move them to?
unidentified
Yeah.
michael schiavello
Where do you suddenly relocate people?
That was like in Beijing, the Olympic Games.
Because I commentated the Olympics in 08. Did you really?
Yeah, I did all the boxing at the Olympic Games.
joe rogan
Did you really?
Wow.
michael schiavello
Yeah, fucking 272 fights in 10 days I commentated by myself.
joe rogan
Are you a big...
Just by yourself?
michael schiavello
By myself, man.
joe rogan
Really?
michael schiavello
Fucking insane.
joe rogan
You could talk up a storm, my brother!
michael schiavello
Word, man!
unidentified
Word!
michael schiavello
But you know, in Beijing, they relocated one million people.
One million people.
joe rogan
One million.
michael schiavello
Were relocated suddenly to build the IBC, the International Broadcast Centre for the Media and the car park.
Whoa.
One million people lost their homes.
joe rogan
That's insane.
michael schiavello
Virtually overnight.
It's like they wake up one morning and they go, you're out of here.
joe rogan
That's insane.
michael schiavello
One million.
joe rogan
How the fuck did they pull that off?
michael schiavello
More than the entire population of San Francisco.
unidentified
That's insane.
michael schiavello
Moved virtually overnight.
Dude, you have no idea.
After going to the Olympic Games and spending three weeks in Beijing, I came back and I told everyone, if the fucking Chinese ever want to take over the world, they will do it in the space of a fucking month.
The amount of people they have, and the organization they have, and the manpower, and the ability, and the technology, and...
Having seen that in Japan as well, that whole region, Korea, Japan, China, they will fucking take over the world easily in a month and we may as well just bend over, take the fucking rice up the ass and go, okay, we are your slaves.
Because seriously, the Olympic Games was phenomenal.
It was incredible.
joe rogan
What is it about them that makes them so dangerous?
Is it their willingness to work hard and sacrifice their life for their job?
michael schiavello
It is their pride, self-pride and national pride.
joe rogan
For what they do.
michael schiavello
Willingness to work extremely hard for very little money and just for self-satisfaction.
And add to that the sheer numbers they have.
The manpower is extraordinary.
Dude, you go to one of those...
joe rogan
Yeah, that is kind of crazy.
michael schiavello
Just on our level that we can relate to, you go to one of those K1 shows in Japan, and the amount of people they employ to set up the arena and set up the ring and the cameras, it is insane.
People that I see set up jobs for Fox Sports back home that'll take two guys to set up a particular camera, they'll use ten guys to set up a camera.
And they'll get it done in like a quarter of the time.
And the ring is taken apart, not by, let's say, a group of 15 people like a show in Australia, but you'll get 300 guys.
And as soon as the show ends, they're coming in helmets and little cars, and that ring is taken down in 10 minutes.
It's like vultures going in and stripping the flesh off a dead animal.
joe rogan
So do you think that it's because they have so many people there that they work harder?
What is it?
michael schiavello
So many people, they work hard, but they work diligently and they work together.
It's like a colony of ants.
All the ants are pulling together for the colony.
No one ant is just on his own working on his own agenda.
It's like we're all pulling together and therefore we form one giant colony and just take over wherever we want.
It's fucking amazing.
It's scary.
It's amazing.
joe rogan
Well, what they're able to do with getting people to work incredible hours and live in dorms and shit, I mean, that's spooky as fuck.
michael schiavello
The Japanese?
If you've ever been inside a Tokyo apartment, this room here would be considered a fucking mansion.
joe rogan
Really?
michael schiavello
I once went in a room in Tokyo, a Tokyo apartment.
The bed was in where the kitchen was, was in where the toilet was.
Or the bathroom.
joe rogan
Just one big room.
michael schiavello
Just one big room.
joe rogan
Well, we have that here.
We have studios.
You can get a studio that's basically, that's it.
It's just a spot to live.
michael schiavello
Dude, from the end of the bed to the front door was from here to where that knee is on you.
joe rogan
Wow.
michael schiavello
That's how much room you had to move.
And the stove is there.
So you can literally...
joe rogan
So it's like the worst hotel room ever.
michael schiavello
Worst hotel room ever and then shrink it.
Like Rick Moranis, honey, I shrunk the hotel room down.
You couldn't swing a cat in there.
It's crazy.
joe rogan
Yeah, I've seen some of the guys' apartments when they show those clips for K1 and for Dream and they used to do for Pride where they show the guys' apartment and show where they're training.
michael schiavello
There's no room to do shit.
joe rogan
Tiny ass gyms too.
michael schiavello
Tiny, right?
You see Sakuraba's gym where he trains or Aoki's gym, they're fucking tiny.
And there's so little room over there that not many people have pets.
joe rogan
What the fuck is it about people where we want to stack everybody on top of each other like that?
What is that?
michael schiavello
I have no idea.
joe rogan
Is that good?
Is there something good about that?
michael schiavello
I'm not used to it because in Australia- But it keeps happening.
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, it happens in America.
It happens there.
michael schiavello
I mean, there's- In Australia, everybody still lives like you do here in a house with a backyard in suburbs.
And the whole high-rise apartment thing is slowly building in popularity, but still not to the extent it is here.
joe rogan
But not like skyscrapers everywhere you look.
michael schiavello
No, no, no.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm telling you that West Side Highway Drive is going to freak you the fuck out.
michael schiavello
But everyone's stacked.
You can't have pets.
You know you can go and rent a pet in Tokyo?
No.
joe rogan
Just to pat one?
michael schiavello
You can go and rent a cat or a dog for an hour.
She can take it to the park, throw a little fucking park, throw a little frisbee, feed it, take it for a walk, and then you return it to the shop.
joe rogan
What?
michael schiavello
You rent a dog, you rent a cat for an hour.
joe rogan
That's ridiculous.
Don't you get attached to the dog?
Don't you develop a relationship to the dog?
michael schiavello
Then you can maybe rent it for two hours.
But yeah, you just rent a pet.
joe rogan
That's a strange world.
That's fucking weird, man.
They almost are like an alien race.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It really is.
I mean, their writing is so different, so completely unrelated.
If you look at the writing of all the European countries, except for obviously Russia.
michael schiavello
Except for Hungary.
joe rogan
Russia, yeah.
Yeah, Hungary.
A couple of them.
michael schiavello
It's that Arabic alphabet that we use.
joe rogan
Yeah, they all share it.
And when you go to China and Korea and Japan, it's like, whoa, you guys are aliens.
This is alien stuff.
This isn't even related to...
Like, this grew completely independent of the European-style writing.
It's so different.
michael schiavello
What a better world the place would be if everyone spoke one fucking language.
joe rogan
Would it?
I don't know, man.
I think it's cool to watch all the different branches.
michael schiavello
No, man.
I think it's cool to watch all the different strategies.
I think there would be far less arguing at war if people could actually reason with each other in one single language.
joe rogan
Dude, people would go to war over eye color.
People are retards.
Oh, you have to get this fucking blue-eyed cocksuckers to try to kick our land.
Dude, people are dumb.
They want to be on teams no matter what.
They always want to find a team.
michael schiavello
Didn't they try and invent one universal language once more?
Wasn't it something called Esperanza or something like that?
Maybe someone can clarify and tweet it to us.
It was like years ago.
They tried to invent a language called Esperanza or Esperanza.
It was meant to be one global language and it never took off, obviously.
joe rogan
I don't remember that.
michael schiavello
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, that would take a long-ass time.
You'd have to get it to the tribes and the African forests.
michael schiavello
It would take generations because you'd have to school generations, three or four generations to get it down pat and inculcated among the masses.
joe rogan
Yeah, most countries in the world, you know, a good percentage of the people are bilingual.
In America, people are, you know, just English or Spanish.
That's it.
michael schiavello
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's it.
michael schiavello
It's like Australia.
Everyone's like English.
I mean, of course, there's immigrants in here that speak all kinds of languages, but as far as, like, people learning things, very Dude, I didn't know how bad the immigration problem here was until I was driving to do a King of the Cage show in New Mexico and the driver was telling me about it because we were driving along the border there from El Paso to Mescalero and he's pointing it out and Mayhem was in the van with me and the guy's like, this is where the Mexicans run the border.
This is where they run the border.
I'm thinking to myself, why the fuck then do you call, if you're complaining, why the fuck do you call the state New Mexico?
Seriously, of course you're going to fucking run if the old Mexico is shit and you want to go and say, I'm going to New Mexico.
Call it something else.
joe rogan
It doesn't matter what you call it.
They know there's cash over here.
There's money over here.
I appreciate ambition, man.
I think it's kind of fucked up that there's spots in the world that suck and you can't leave them.
I think it's kind of fucked up that you can't just travel from one place to another and just go wherever the fuck you want and live where you want.
We can't let them in.
We can't let them in.
It's like...
Really?
michael schiavello
You know what's scary, brother?
I got held up in Toronto for five days recently because I had visa problems because something wasn't done properly on my work visa.
So I got held up in Toronto and the way they treat you like you're a fucking...
joe rogan
Like you're a criminal.
michael schiavello
Like you fucking got a rag on your head and you're riding a camel with a fucking bazooka.
joe rogan
Yeah.
michael schiavello
Seriously.
Because I got a beard, like just...
I don't know what it was.
joe rogan
You look like you could be an Arab.
michael schiavello
I get that.
joe rogan
You look like you could be a terrorist.
michael schiavello
I felt like I was locked in a fucking detention.
There was a French lady...
joe rogan
I'm studying you now.
michael schiavello
Ha la la...
There was a French lady sitting there with three kids and she'd been in that detention in Toronto at the airport for four hours.
She was crying.
They'd held her with her kids for four fucking hours, man.
joe rogan
That's sad, but it would have heard her kids were strapped up with dynamite, alright?
You ever think about that fella?
You don't know.
You gotta be fucking careful.
Their job is tough.
I like how Canada doesn't let in douchebags.
They don't...
What do you got?
Assault and battery?
Fuck you.
Get out of here.
Canada is tight.
But, you know, I think, you know, I just think as long as you have aware...
If you're aware of someone's record, I think you should be able to go anywhere.
If you're not a murderer, you're not a scumbag, you have real papers.
If Mexico had real papers...
You know, in America, you run numbers on people in America.
Chances are, in 2010, you're going to know exactly what the fuck they've done.
michael schiavello
Well, we get all boat people in Australia, man.
That's our big problem.
People sail in boats from East Timor and other places, and they rock up on boats, and woohoo!
joe rogan
Australia!
michael schiavello
And they run off into the fucking jungle.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah, because Australia's awesome.
michael schiavello
It is awesome.
joe rogan
You gotta appreciate that.
I mean, it's like, why shouldn't they be able to do that?
They're people.
I feel like if you have the means and the willpower to get somewhere that's better than where you're at, we should all allow that, you know?
What kind of fucking hippie, commie, socialist, and talk nonsense is this, boy?
This is America!
Land of the free, home of the brave!
And I'm here with Australia!
My man, Michael Ciavello!
Ladies and gentlemen, Strikeforce is about to start in about 30 seconds, so we're gonna wrap this up.
The meeting of the minds.
unidentified
Yes!
joe rogan
We will do this again, my friend, when you're in town again.
For sure.
michael schiavello
I'll be in town again in a couple of months.
unidentified
We'll be back.
joe rogan
Michael Chevelle is a cool motherfucker, and I always enjoy hanging out with him.
And I always enjoy doing this podcast.
You guys are the shit.
I love you all.
Thank you very much.
And I will see you probably, oh, Tuesday with Joey Coco Diaz.
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