May 25, 2010 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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| Three two one boom BOOM! And we are live with El Guapo as he tries to navigate his phone with his left hand. | ||
| What did you punch with your right hand? | ||
| A table. | ||
| A table that was stronger than me. | ||
| Yeah, this size table. | ||
| Why did you punch a table? | ||
| Okay, so I was in three states in six days. | ||
| I slept four hours per night. | ||
| I just came from Chicago. | ||
| And this whole thing, I had to get up at four. | ||
| And then I had a shoot, a commercial shoot for my body action system starting at 10. And this happened at 10.30 p.m. | ||
| So I was 12 and a half hours in. | ||
| And I already said, okay, you know what, I'm not going to do it anymore because I couldn't retain information anymore. | ||
| I had some lines to remember, you know, they were feeding me lines. | ||
| I couldn't do it anymore. | ||
| I said, this is it. | ||
| I stopped. | ||
| But then they said, yeah, but if you can do this little thing, okay, I'll try that one more time. | ||
| And of course it didn't work. | ||
| And I said, you know what, I threw out my gloves. | ||
| And somehow, this is how stupid you are, you throw off your glove and two seconds after I took it off, I hit the table somehow. | ||
| I still needed to hit something and I decided to do it without a glove instead of with a glove. | ||
| A solid thing. | ||
| Guess what's gonna lose? | ||
| My pinky knuckle! | ||
| And they incapacitate your entire arm for that, pretty much, I think. | ||
| Just for a pinky knuckle. | ||
| They call it a boxing fetcher. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| These two are like, that's like the old school, bringing us back to karate combat. | ||
| Old school karate days, I would always recommend that you punch like this. | ||
| You know what I did? | ||
| And I know, and I was going to do that, but the amount of force I was using at this moment, really fast, in milliseconds, and you had to go say, it's better to spread out the impact even more, because I was... | ||
| Because you're hitting it so hard? | ||
| Yeah, I knew I was going to bring the big one too, if I would do it. | ||
| Yeah, it was just one of those stupid things. | ||
| You just lost your marbles. | ||
| And five seconds, because I hit, boom, they look at me, everybody's freaking out, and I go, nah, it's over. | ||
| She says, you know pain? | ||
| I said, no pain, but it's broke. | ||
| He said, how do you know? | ||
| I said, trust me, I can feel it. | ||
| So, I was right away, I was calm again, everything was good. | ||
| Nobody died that night. | ||
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Damn, boss. | |
| I know! | ||
| That right arm's been through hell. | ||
| It been. | ||
| And you know, this, for me, to lose cool like that, that happens once every five years or so. | ||
| But I get angry? | ||
| I never get angry. | ||
| I don't have that. | ||
| Not that kind of anger. | ||
| That I hit something. | ||
| I mean, how old am I? Right. | ||
| You seem to always be a happy guy. | ||
| That's what I am. | ||
| But I think it's also because I'm happy. | ||
| So when it gets angry, that's what the fights, that's what always happens. | ||
| I'm nice, nice, nice, nice, nice, nice, nice. | ||
| Try to diffuse it. | ||
| Then I realize, wait a minute. | ||
| And then I'm asking them, I say, you don't think I'm afraid, right? | ||
| I say, I'm doing this for you. | ||
| I'm protecting you right now. | ||
| That's why I don't want to fight. | ||
| And at the moment you say that, you know, some of them call you bluff. | ||
| And then, because he did it for such a long time, yeah, then I'll make sure that... | ||
| Boss smash, yeah. | ||
| But those are the old boss days. | ||
| Those old boss days, no more. | ||
| No more boss like this. | ||
| I like that, actually. | ||
| And I don't think it's a healthy boss either. | ||
| How is your arm doing in terms of the atrophy? | ||
| Is it growing back? | ||
| Oh, it's definitely growing back, though. | ||
| Yeah, it gets a little bit bigger now. | ||
| I have this new stuff that I'm trying. | ||
| I have it at home. | ||
| I need bacteriostatic water for it. | ||
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It's a peptide called BPC-157. | |
| Did you ever hear that? | ||
| Yeah, Ben Greenfield told me about that. | ||
| It's great for tendons and ligaments and stuff. | ||
| Yeah, even nerves and regrows apparently everything and rats I mean they regrow tendons everything and I'm gonna try it I'm gonna try it locally here on the bicep see what it does as soon as I have the water so it seems like the Muscles are growing back though like slowly, but surely. | ||
| Yeah, but it's six years six years Yeah, it's a good 25 pounds. | ||
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I can do eight times now bicep curls with the right That's a lot better than it used to be, though. | |
| I couldn't do five pounds. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Yeah, not once. | ||
| Pat Miletic is the same thing. | ||
| Same thing, from his neck. | ||
| You know, you want to hear how crazy Pat's injury was? | ||
| Pat's disc had deteriorated so badly that his discs fused themselves. | ||
| And he didn't realize that. | ||
| That guy is a complete animal. | ||
| He's a fucking animal. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He didn't even realize it. | ||
| His discs fused themselves. | ||
| He went to the doctor, and they're like, well, we don't have to fuse it. | ||
| It already fused itself. | ||
| Well, if you talk to him and he looks at you, it's like he hasn't fused next, right? | ||
| He's always like Batman. | ||
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He looks to the side. | |
| He can't move. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Fucking grappling, man. | ||
| I know. | ||
| They'll blame it on punching and kicking, but all the knees, injury, everything, my rib that was out, my loss, it's all wrestling. | ||
| It's grappling and wrestling. | ||
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Yeah, grappling. | |
| Wrestlers are all fucked up. | ||
| We were talking about Kurt Angle yesterday, who's an Olympic gold medalist, fantastic wrestler. | ||
| I mean, he's got a neck that literally is like the size of my waist, but his neck is so fucked up, both of his arms are tiny. | ||
| And you can see the atrophy in his arms. | ||
| Like, his arms don't match his neck. | ||
| Oh, that sucks. | ||
| And you can tell, I mean, obviously you know better than anybody about neck injuries. | ||
| Guys always, like, their arms shrink because they get atrophy. | ||
| It cuts off the nerves. | ||
| Can you imagine? | ||
| So with him, it's both ways then. | ||
| Yeah, well, it looks... | ||
| Pull up that picture again, Jamie. | ||
| See if you can find it. | ||
| This is Ronda Rousey's Instagram. | ||
| You can see it. | ||
| I saw him at the induction at the International Sports Hall of Fame. | ||
| I was there for... | ||
| Ronda was there as well, and he was sitting first row. | ||
| But he was wearing a suit, of course, so I couldn't tell. | ||
| Yeah, well, he still looks like a tank. | ||
| Yeah, he does. | ||
| But his fucking neck is ridiculous. | ||
| It's so big. | ||
| But, like, look at this... | ||
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What happened? | |
| That's us. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| See, look at his arms. | ||
| Oh, wow, yeah. | ||
| See, the size of his neck? | ||
| I mean, his neck, it looks like his arms should be as big as his fucking legs. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He just is, I mean, the guy's been through hell. | ||
| But look at the fucking size of his neck. | ||
| Have you seen a neck like that before? | ||
| That shit's crazy. | ||
| You build a lot of muscle around it, I guess. | ||
| Well, yeah, it's all fucked up. | ||
| It's been fused and... | ||
| That's yours, right? | ||
| Yeah, for this fusion, front and back. | ||
| Well, one splint, you know, that opens it up, and then the other ones are fusions. | ||
| And I have a friend of mine who has five, and he can't move. | ||
| Like, look, with me, I have mobility, but he can't do this. | ||
| He can't look to the side a little bit. | ||
| Yeah, I was talking to a buddy of mine about a mutual friend of ours, and I didn't realize that he had done this, but he had went to Germany and got his whole back fused. | ||
| His whole back is completely rock-solid fused. | ||
| You know who has that too? | ||
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Who? | |
| I was looking for him in the hospital, Don Fry. | ||
| Don Fry has that too? | ||
| 10-disc fusion. | ||
| This guy died twice on the operating table. | ||
| He had infections, the rods were broke, everything. | ||
| Man, I was in his hospital, he lost a lot of weight, he had a big beard, and he said, check this out. | ||
| He stood up, and from his butt crack, all the way to above his shoulder blades, One big zipper. | ||
| 10 disc fusion! | ||
| That is insane. | ||
| How many discs are in your back? | ||
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Shit. | |
| I have no clue. | ||
| We gotta Google that. | ||
| That's fucking crazy. | ||
| How many do you think are in there, Jamie? | ||
| 13 I'd go. | ||
| 15? | ||
| 16? | ||
| So there's one disc hanging in there. | ||
| Jesus! | ||
| Jesus! | ||
| Take me! | ||
| One disc. | ||
| It's gonna go. | ||
| That's what they say with fusions. | ||
| If you have a fusion, then the discs below or above are gonna be next, they say. | ||
| How many? | ||
| There's 33. Oh! | ||
| It's not that bad then! | ||
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He's doing great! | |
| There's only 10 fusions! | ||
| Eddie Bravo has an artificial disc. | ||
| They put artificial discs in now, these articulating titanium discs. | ||
| I wish I had that, I know. | ||
| I couldn't do that at the time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It was in the early stages. | ||
| But Eddie's got no problem with it at all. | ||
| It moves great. | ||
| But that's what I mean. | ||
| For me, I can't do that anymore. | ||
| Maybe future, you know, with the printing that they do now, the 3D printing, maybe they can make an exact copy of my spine and then they can still do it. | ||
| Put it back in there. | ||
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Oof. | |
| It will be something, but that's scary. | ||
| Imagine that. | ||
| They cut your spine out, put a fucking titanium one in. | ||
| Ah-ha-ha. | ||
| My daughter, my oldest daughter, just told me, my ex-wife, she's going to have to do it at the lower back. | ||
| She's got like two or three fusions they're going to need to do, but she's going to do disc replacement as well. | ||
| Yeah? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, disc replacement is legit now. | ||
| You know Braulio Estima? | ||
| Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu black bro. | ||
| Very famous Jiu-Jitsu guy. | ||
| He's got one in his neck. | ||
| He was the first guy that I ever heard about it. | ||
| He fucked his neck up really bad and then won the Worlds with a fucked up neck. | ||
| And then right after the Worlds went and got it operated on. | ||
| Where did he do it? | ||
| Because he's from Brazil. | ||
| Did he do it in Brazil? | ||
| I think he did it in Europe because he lives in England. | ||
| Germany will be a... | ||
| I would let the Germans look at my back. | ||
| They're really good. | ||
| They're far advanced. | ||
| Yeah, well, we got really fucked up during the Bush administration. | ||
| They put a ban on all stem cell research. | ||
| They kind of halted the brakes on funding stem cell research, which is really a shame. | ||
| Because they used to think that stem cells had to do with babies, like fetuses. | ||
| They were thinking people were going to get abortions just so they could use the stem cells. | ||
| But now they realize that mesenchymal stem cells and adult stem cells are some of the best. | ||
| And one of the things they're doing in America now is sucking fat out of people, taking liposuction, and then using the stem cells from your own body. | ||
| To proliferate injured areas. | ||
| I did it two weeks ago for my knees. | ||
| Did you? | ||
| But yeah, I have no fat though. | ||
| So I had to take it out of my hip bone. | ||
| You know, they drill a hole in there. | ||
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Oh, right. | |
| They take the marrow. | ||
| Yeah, they take the bone marrow. | ||
| And it's unfortunate because in the fat, apparently you have five times more the amount of stem cells than you have in the bone marrow. | ||
| People out there that are fat or pumped to hear that. | ||
| They're like, yes. | ||
| Oh, see? | ||
| I told you. | ||
| I have it for a reason. | ||
| That's why I did it. | ||
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Just if I ever get injured, I've got a store of medicine. | |
| That's why Ted Gabbard never got injured. | ||
| Even if he did, he wouldn't know. | ||
| What is that guy doing these days? | ||
| I have no clue. | ||
| I know he wrote a book that was the last time he had on Inside MMA. Oh, you guys had him on? | ||
| Yeah, I mean, that's five years ago. | ||
| I love that guy. | ||
| That guy was a fucking character. | ||
| I mean, if it wasn't for guys like Tank Abbott, I mean, there would have been no early days. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You know, I mean, you needed a guy like that. | ||
| Yeah, you had to identify with him, right? | ||
| So a lot of these crazy guys out there, see, he can do it, I can do this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's what you need. | ||
| Yeah, he had a giant belly and he would knock people dead. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He was like Roy Nelson only with no stamina. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And no black belt technique on the ground. | ||
| No black belt in jiu-jitsu. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, Roy Nelson is a fucking complete anomaly, right? | ||
| Yeah, he is. | ||
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Who looks like that? | |
| Why can't he lose weight? | ||
| How is it possible that he trains so hard? | ||
| I've seen this guy throw out like 130, 155-pound kettlebells, like one-arm swings, like it's nothing. | ||
| They go, you would lose weight, right? | ||
| You would think. | ||
| He would be a 185 pound phenom. | ||
| Instead, he's a heavyweight. | ||
| He's a big contender. | ||
| Maybe it's an implant. | ||
| In the belly. | ||
| That he just wants to do that. | ||
| He calls it a Buddha belly implant. | ||
| You can just kick him and he doesn't even feel it. | ||
| He's wearing a chest pad. | ||
| Can you imagine if someone did that? | ||
| I mean, if girls get fake boobs, let's think about this. | ||
| Because girls do get fake boobs and they fight. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, girls have got, I don't want to mention any names. | ||
| Wink, wink. | ||
| But we've seen it. | ||
| Girls have had no boobs and all of a sudden they had boobs. | ||
| You can get fake boobs and still fight. | ||
| But what about a fake belly? | ||
| What about a guy that says, I just like a belly. | ||
| I like looking good. | ||
| You know, if a guy had a fake belly, I was going to try to see if he could hit it to the back. | ||
| So I'd make a hunchback out of him. | ||
| See if he can move the belly. | ||
| Move it all the way to the back. | ||
| With a hook to the back. | ||
| Lower back. | ||
| We never had one like that. | ||
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Right. | |
| You know? | ||
| I mean, the hunchback from Notre Dame. | ||
| That's a high. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You never saw a hunchback from the bottom. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like lower back. | ||
| We can make that. | ||
| Like a lumbar pad. | ||
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He can work as a lumberjack. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He sleeps all night and he works all day. | ||
| Like, if you look at Roy Nelson, he's like the size of a really good middleweight. | ||
| Yeah, no, he is. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But meanwhile, the guy knocked out Chuck Congo, knocked out Brendan Schaub, knocked out some big fucking heavyweights. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Knocked out Mitrione. | ||
| I mean, fucking Roy Nelson knocked out a lot of people, man. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Stephen Struve, right, also? | ||
| Did he knock out Stephen Struve? | ||
| I think it was. | ||
| I do not remember that fight. | ||
| And the worst thing is, it's with his right hand. | ||
| So you would think that people are going to tilt the left up, but somehow he connects anyway. | ||
| It's like Ronda with the arm bars. | ||
| You know it's going to happen. | ||
| You can't stop it. | ||
| Almost knocked out Overeem. | ||
| Remember that? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| He hurt Overeem. | ||
| Yep, Stefan's true. | ||
| Bam! | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I mean, Roy's like six feet tall. | ||
| Stefan's true, seven feet tall. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, fucking animal. | ||
| Roy's an animal. | ||
| Honestly, I mean, look at his gut right there. | ||
| How much is that? | ||
| He weighs about 250, right? | ||
| I'm not bullshitting. | ||
| Yep, there we go. | ||
| He is 50 pounds overweight. | ||
| And he's a world-class athlete. | ||
| I mean, you cannot say that Roy Nelson's not a world-class fighter. | ||
| He's absolutely a world-class fighter. | ||
| And he's 50 pounds overweight. | ||
| So you drop down 50 pounds. | ||
| Now you're 200 pounds. | ||
| You make 85. You cut weight. | ||
| Everybody does that. | ||
| Cut 15 pounds. | ||
| You're 85. You're a world champion. | ||
| You know, there's nothing. | ||
| Butterbean. | ||
| You know, we were somewhere. | ||
| And an athletic commissioner told me from all the boxes on the card, he had actually the best blood pressure and cholesterol. | ||
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What? | |
| For real, he said, we were in shock that the guy is in a phenomenal shape. | ||
| That's what he told us. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| Butterbean made him look like Yair Rodriguez. | ||
| Look at him. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| Actually, he looks good there. | ||
| His whole family looks exactly like that, I hear. | ||
| Go up a right-hand corner. | ||
| Yeah, that's what he looks like when he was at his worst. | ||
| Meanwhile, he's another guy. | ||
| Knocked dudes dead. | ||
| Man, he is so funny. | ||
| I had such a good time with him. | ||
| And there was Prince George in Kennedy. | ||
| He was there. | ||
| He's a player. | ||
| Is he? | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| That's hilarious. | ||
| Very funny guy. | ||
| That's funny. | ||
| You know, he's a fucking hell of a cook, apparently. | ||
| You can't tell. | ||
| I was watching a video of Butterbean cooking some ribs, and I was like, damn, that looks legit. | ||
| He had a smoker. | ||
| He was cooking them in a smoker. | ||
| He broke the rule, though. | ||
| Don't get high of your own supply. | ||
| So tell me about this karate combat thing you're doing. | ||
| We've seen the videos of it. | ||
| I like the fighting surface. | ||
| Fighting in a pit, it's a great idea. | ||
| Oh, and did you watch it? | ||
| I mean, what they do with the colors, you know, when it's fighting, it's like a little reddish in the Turks, dark purple, when there's a break, you're going to run up that hill out of the pit, just a little bit. | ||
| But I like it a lot, yeah, because you can use the wall as well, that 45-angle degree there. | ||
| To jump up like batters would do. | ||
| You can use it to improve in the fight. | ||
| I think it's really great. | ||
| I think the rules as well, they kept everything on distance. | ||
| Long shots, long punches. | ||
| The hooks, the moasi chukis, so they allow hooks. | ||
| They wanted to stay away from uppercuts, elbows and knees just before the cutting. | ||
| And they don't want to make it bloody. | ||
| So they understand that, you know, everything is technique, of course, but for people who have been complaining, I mix up martial arts, I can't understand the ground, and some other arts out there are too complicated. | ||
| Well, this has been around for such a long time. | ||
| Everybody knows karate. | ||
| If you find out how many people did karate, I mean, when they grew up, look at this. | ||
| It's a beautiful picture. | ||
| The way it's filmed as well, if you... | ||
| The camera, this one camera goes behind the people. | ||
| It's almost like a movie. | ||
| The one camera angle they had from above, I said, okay, we've got to stop with that one. | ||
| That was the only one, but they did. | ||
| They stopped. | ||
| And then they have to... | ||
| The heads-up display, that is also something that nobody had ever before. | ||
| That environment is perfect. | ||
| It's like a movie. | ||
| That's how it should be. | ||
| That's how MMA should be fought. | ||
| It should be fought in an open space. | ||
| I feel like the cage is too much of a tool. | ||
| Like, you could use the cage. | ||
| You pin a guy to the cage, and you could beat him up in the clinch like Randy Couturro used to do. | ||
| You could use the cage to get back up if somebody takes you down. | ||
| If you get taken down on this, you get taken down. | ||
| Like, that's it. | ||
| You know? | ||
| You're gonna have to get up with skill, like real skill, to see if you can get up. | ||
| The only thing about this is if you were in the distance, if it was quite a distance away, it seems like, oh, you could throw guys? | ||
| You can throw, and then once they hit the ground, you can't clinch, but the person on top who just threw you can rain down strikes for five seconds from a squatted position, so you can't go down there. | ||
| And I already saw fights getting finished like that, so it's a very effective technique. | ||
| Why only five seconds? | ||
| Because then they go back on their feet. | ||
| They just want to keep everything short. | ||
| And the more attractive for the audience, the better it is. | ||
| It's like, for instance, now the knees are not in. | ||
| But, you know, we were already talking about knees to the body. | ||
| That may be a really good thing, especially because takedowns are there. | ||
| So now you can use it against the takedown. | ||
| Is that a Bitcoin logo? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Bitcoin is one of their sponsors. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Bitcoin blowing up. | ||
| Now, can they leg kick? | ||
| A leg kick below the knee. | ||
| And I've been talking to them also. | ||
| This is the good thing about this organization, that's why I really enjoyed working with them, is that they're open to suggestions. | ||
| They're open to rule changes. | ||
| We're going to just see what happens right now. | ||
| And if the urge comes up, they say, yeah, we should add low kicks, then we're going to start adding low kicks above the knee as well. | ||
| Right now, they do it below the knee, just like they do it in the UFC as well. | ||
| Well, the UFC has everything. | ||
| But I mean, we see it a lot in the UFC happening now. | ||
| Because actually, they break the bones, right? | ||
| The fibula, that will snap. | ||
| And with a low kick, that won't happen. | ||
| It will just jam your leg. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, also, you can't condition the lower leg the same way you can condition the upper leg. | ||
| Your upper leg gets used to taking a beating, and some guys can just take low kicks. | ||
| But not that low calf kick is debilitating. | ||
| It's annoying, especially if you do it just after a front kick. | ||
| Somebody gives you a front kick, you tap it to the side and you immediately kick it so when the muscle is still relaxed, it'll go straight through. | ||
| That's when something breaks, if you can't flex. | ||
| Yeah, we've seen over the last few years, that's a devastating technique. | ||
| Now, are they wearing shin pads? | ||
| No, no shin pads. | ||
| Only these tiny gloves. | ||
| You have them there in the back so you can check them out. | ||
| With the low kicks. | ||
| There's all been knockouts by strikes. | ||
| I like the takedowns as well. | ||
| That heads-up display. | ||
| It's really cool right now. | ||
| It's the first one, whoever does that. | ||
| It's biometric, nutrition, training. | ||
| You know, it's a DNA-based... | ||
| A heads-up display that you can see while the fighters are busy. | ||
| You get a heart rate, respiratory, what they eat, what they train before. | ||
| It's all going to start happening in two weeks. | ||
| It will become full circle, and then the heads display will work. | ||
| What is the biometric? | ||
| Like, when does that work? | ||
| Are they wearing something? | ||
| They wear these little tiny things so you can see how fast they hit and what direction they hit, propelling. | ||
| You can pretty much see everything. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| And these gloves are awesome. | ||
| I mean, they feel great. | ||
| They do feel great. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Yeah, there's a lot of padding. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| That's pretty padded. | ||
| It's much more than a UFC glove, huh? | ||
| It is, but it's all... | ||
| Well, you know what else, too? | ||
| It seems like it gives you a curve to your hand. | ||
| Which is great. | ||
| Which is an issue with the UFC, is the constant poking. | ||
| Like, if you want to poke someone in the eye with this, you've got to kind of... | ||
| It's like the pride gloves, right? | ||
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Yep. | |
| The pride gloves used to have that curve to them, and we saw much less eye pokes in pride than we do in the UFC. You know, but I never got that anyway. | ||
| In Pancras, we just open-hand strikes, I never poked anybody in the head, right? | ||
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Right, right. | |
| So, sometimes you have to think, is this on purpose or not? | ||
| For sure, some of it's on purpose, right? | ||
| It's hard to differentiate how much of it is on purpose. | ||
| It really is, you know? | ||
| I said it with Jon Jones at the time, but he is... | ||
| So calm, so relaxed, so everything. | ||
| And then I go like, that almost has to be then. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| You've said that before. | ||
| I should have worn that thing, right? | ||
| That's what you were going to say? | ||
| I broke my hand. | ||
| You could punch something pretty hard with this. | ||
| I mean, these are great pads. | ||
| Man, this is almost like a boxing glove. | ||
| It's like a small amount of boxing glove. | ||
| It's like it doesn't cover the whole area, but this is the same kind of pad. | ||
| As you see, the side cut, the tzuki, you know, Mawashi tzuki, and you hit that officially with the side. | ||
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What are you calling it? | |
| Mawashi tzuki. | ||
| Mawashi is roundhouse, and the tzuki is a punch, so it comes from the side. | ||
| It's a roundhouse punch. | ||
| It's a long hook. | ||
| Right. | ||
| How'd you say that? | ||
| But this is more like a ridge hand, right? | ||
| Close line, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Close line, ridge hand, yeah. | ||
| Right, so you're not punching with the knuckles, you're hitting with this part of your hand? | ||
| Yeah, with that part of the hand. | ||
| Like by the thumb bone. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's a good way to bust your shit up. | ||
| I know, but that's why, you know, they keep it long and they make sure that you see the technique. | ||
| Once you start doing short hooks, then it's going to be a different story. | ||
| You're going to have very close, you're going to have knees, and people are going to be confused again. | ||
| Wait a minute, you can't throw hooks? | ||
| You can't throw hooks? | ||
| Long hooks. | ||
| What does that mean? | ||
| Like, if you're in close, you can't throw a short hook? | ||
| No, not for the close distance. | ||
| But then, think about this. | ||
| Now, your close distance, you're going to have to remove yourself away. | ||
| It's like a combination I always tell my students, right uppercut, right straight. | ||
| Or right uppercut, right straight to the body. | ||
| If I give a right uppercut, I'm too close for the right straight. | ||
| But then, look, I step backwards with my right. | ||
| And by the way, I create distance. | ||
| Yeah, but why limit punches? | ||
| That seems silly. | ||
| Because they want to keep it as close to karate as possible. | ||
| And as clean as possible. | ||
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I get it, but a left hook, like a tight hook if a guy's right there, and bam! | |
| Yeah, but then they say you could also throw a left elbow, you know, and they took that out as well. | ||
| Yeah, so I think this is one of these things that you're simply going to have to get used to. | ||
| And think about it, with a fighter, it's more difficult for a fighter. | ||
| But what do you do if a guy hits a guy with a short hook and knocks him out? | ||
| I have no clue. | ||
| Then the referee is going to step in. | ||
| Well, if it's intentionally, of course, that's a problem. | ||
| He's going to lose. | ||
| How can you make someone lose from a short hook? | ||
| That seems crazy. | ||
| Well, all the fights that they had, all the fights that they had before, now already, none of it happened. | ||
| So I think they're pretty close. | ||
| I think in the rules meeting, they have a guy who's repeating it like three, four, five times in a row. | ||
| They do not do that. | ||
| And plus, these guys are karate practitioners. | ||
| See? | ||
| So they're not even used to it. | ||
| Yeah, but if they're karate practitioners in 2018, they know how to punch. | ||
| Nobody's just karate anymore. | ||
| I mean, everybody knows how to throw hooks and uppercuts. | ||
| But I think these rules are the closest rules to the 2020 Olympics. | ||
| It's going to happen in Tokyo as well, right? | ||
| Karate is going to come back in the Olympics. | ||
| Is it? | ||
| In the 2020, yeah, in Tokyo. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Oh, because it's in Tokyo. | ||
| What kind of karate? | ||
| Like Kyokushin? | ||
| It's probably Shotokan, right? | ||
| That's the oldest form I would say. | ||
| On Okinawa it started there. | ||
| But that would be below the neck then. | ||
| Like you can kick to the head, but you can't punch the face. | ||
| We're going to have to really figure out those. | ||
| But that's why I love it. | ||
| With the gloves, they're probably going to be allowed to hit the face. | ||
| Right, but not in the Olympics, right? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know about that yet. | ||
| Yeah, because Taekwondo, they took it out as well, right? | ||
| And you're going to have the headgear in boxing. | ||
| Now, it's optional now, for what I believe. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, if it's the same glove, if they make it the same weight, why would they? | ||
| Are they willing to listen to you? | ||
| Yes, they will. | ||
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Talk to these people. | |
| Oh, no, I'm already talking to them. | ||
| That's the greatest thing. | ||
| Why does your phone keep flashing? | ||
| I'm a very popular guy. | ||
| I think the people are constantly... | ||
| Every time you get a text, your phone flashes, like the light flashes? | ||
| Oh, I do that on the back because many times I have my phone like this, right? | ||
| And now I can't hear it, but I can see it. | ||
| Now a big light flash comes. | ||
| Text me. | ||
| Text me and see what happens. | ||
| I do that on purpose. | ||
| I keep my phone flat on purpose. | ||
| Like, leave me the fuck alone. | ||
| I don't want to look at my phone every five seconds because it's flashing. | ||
| Yeah, and oh, and by the way, you see, that's why I'm looking. | ||
| Hooks aren't penalties anymore. | ||
| Oh, so they changed it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| Because that seems silly. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You should be able to hook somebody. | ||
| Just, I mean, it's a great punch. | ||
| I understand if you want to eliminate elbows. | ||
| Glory took out elbows. | ||
| You know, Bellator doesn't have elbows. | ||
| Bellator kickboxing, rather. | ||
| But I think punches should be punches. | ||
| You know, any way you want to punch. | ||
| Yeah, well, back fist, everything. | ||
| You can throw everything. | ||
| And you can do flying as well. | ||
| All the kicks are allowed. | ||
| You can also, except for the low kick to the thigh, but for the rest, every kick, every jumping kick, everything. | ||
| You know, but that's, again, me talking, and we're going to see... | ||
| What this is going to. | ||
| They'll listen to you, boss. | ||
| They got you. | ||
| Fighters are going to love it. | ||
| Come on. | ||
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You're Dutch. | |
| How do they not have low kicks? | ||
| If you're in Dutch, you're in much. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| That was the reason a lot of Dutch guys won. | ||
| Remember all the way back here in the kickboxing? | ||
| Fuck yeah. | ||
| Ramon Deckers, Rob Kamen. | ||
| Rob Kamen. | ||
| Goddamn, man. | ||
| Against Yves Terriol. | ||
| Remember that fight? | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| Low kicks. | ||
| Yeah, those were the guys. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, yeah, man. | ||
| I'm looking forward to it. | ||
| If you're... | ||
| Nowhere, what is it, April 26th in Miami, they have the first show. | ||
| I'm pretty sure they will invite. | ||
| I am out of town, unfortunately. | ||
| April 26th in Miami, huh? | ||
| That's the first show in America? | ||
| Where were these other ones filmed? | ||
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Overseas. | |
| They do it everywhere. | ||
| This will be the first show. | ||
| It's free, guys. | ||
| So do that as well. | ||
| Also, what you can do, free. | ||
| Free to watch? | ||
| Free to watch. | ||
| To be there or to watch it on television? | ||
| You go to karate.com. | ||
| There's a button where you can click Watch It Live. | ||
| It's going to be streamed, but you also have an app. | ||
| They have a really cool app because that app gives you the heads-up display. | ||
| You see that right at the top? | ||
| Watch Live. | ||
| Boom. | ||
| That's where you click. | ||
| Sign up for free streaming access to our next event. | ||
| Don't have to do anything. | ||
| Nice. | ||
| So, who's putting this together? | ||
| How do you know these people? | ||
| Well, they contacted me. | ||
| There's a whole bunch of guys together, a lot of karate experts as well. | ||
| And I think they're side with the 2020 Olympics. | ||
| And I've been talking about this also for a while. | ||
| I said, why is not anybody doing this? | ||
| We had Chuck Norris doing it, right? | ||
| Right, World Combat League. | ||
| And I thought that was cool. | ||
| And now this, when I saw this with the pit, I go, man, I truly believe it's going to take off. | ||
| I think a lot of people are going to enjoy this. | ||
| Well, I hope so. | ||
| I mean, I've been saying for the longest time that striking sports in America, like you got boxing and then nobody pays attention to the other shit. | ||
| I mean, people barely pay attention to kickboxing. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| It's just not nearly as popular. | ||
| It doesn't, especially to me, I'm a giant fan of Muay Thai. | ||
| I mean, I love watching Muay Thai and I never understood why Muay Thai wasn't more successful in the United States. | ||
| I know Lion Fight had some good traction and they were doing pretty well, but I don't think they're on AXS TV anymore. | ||
| They stopped. | ||
| The people are asking for it. | ||
| Every time. | ||
| They're complaining about mixed martial arts. | ||
| A lot of people don't understand what's going on on the ground. | ||
| Now we finally have something. | ||
| Thai boxing. | ||
| And they're not watching it. | ||
| Glory has the best fighters on the planet. | ||
| It's an unbelievable show. | ||
| But not enough people watch it. | ||
| Well, it's not mainstream enough in terms of, like, its exposure. | ||
| I mean, you get it on UFC Fight Pass, which is amazing, and then you get it on ESPN3, which is only online, and sometimes ESPN2. But, you know, I think, I mean, you look, Rico Verhoeven, and you see Jamal Ben Sadiq, that fight, holy shit! | ||
| And he said he was going to do it like that, right at the end. | ||
| And Ben Sadiq caught him, too, early. | ||
| And Ben Sadiq had knocked him out six years ago. | ||
| That was a fucking amazing fight. | ||
| If that was on television, that fight was on TV, in the end when Rico's pouring it on and Ben Sadiq collapses in the ropes, I mean, and they're big, giant fucking guys. | ||
| I mean, that was an amazing fight. | ||
| Rico is incredible. | ||
| His cardio for a giant guy, you know, for a big 250 pound guy. | ||
| And his technique and his distances, his ring strategy, everything. | ||
| He's the complete guy. | ||
| And he's a young guy. | ||
| Super smart also. | ||
| Isn't he like 29? | ||
| Yeah, I think so. | ||
| It's like Conor, right? | ||
| Conor's 29 as well. | ||
| Yeah, so... | ||
| I mean, he's got a long future ahead of him. | ||
| Think of the amount of experience he has already. | ||
| Pull up Rico Verhoeven, glory heavyweight champion. | ||
| See how old he is. | ||
| I think he just had a birthday. | ||
| I think he turned 29. He's a fucking beast, man. | ||
| Was it? | ||
| Today he turns 29. Happy birthday, Rico! | ||
| Yeah, I just don't understand. | ||
| I really don't understand. | ||
| I don't understand why that's not more popular. | ||
| It's keeping it simple. | ||
| And this now, even, you take the knees out, keep it a little bit more separate so that people can see the technique better. | ||
| It's not better technique. | ||
| You can see the technique better. | ||
| I think we'll do a lot of good. | ||
| Also, a lot of kids, when they say, hey, mom, I want to watch Mixed Martial Arts. | ||
| When you're a very young kid, I don't think the parents are going to allow that. | ||
| There's still that little... | ||
| You know, they don't know. | ||
| Karate? | ||
| Oh, please, go. | ||
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Watch. | |
| Did you see this crazy shit? | ||
| They're talking about Conor McGregor fighting Floyd Mayweather with no shoes on, in an MMA cage, with MMA gloves. | ||
| You can clinch, but no takedowns, no knees, no elbows, no kicks, no submissions. | ||
| But clinch. | ||
| You can clinch. | ||
| You can fight from the clinch. | ||
| Yeah, but, you know, Mayweather is an animal there also. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But still, come on, let a kick, one kick be illegal. | ||
| A kick would end it. | ||
| If he had kicks, that would be the difference. | ||
| That's it! | ||
| But Conor, even fighting from the clinch, you could tie him up, you could tie him up and hold on to him and hit him like Randy Couture style. | ||
| You remember when Shane Carwin fought Frank Mir and tied him up and just obliterated him with uppercuts? | ||
| Just boom, boom! | ||
| Shane was a monster. | ||
| But then again, he chooses to stand there. | ||
| I don't think that Mayweather is going to choose to stand there. | ||
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He won't have a choice. | |
| If he gets grabbed, he pops out. | ||
| He won't have a choice if he grabs him. | ||
| It's not like he pulls him to the knee and gets kneed in the face. | ||
| But he can clinch with him. | ||
| If he can clinch with them, and they're standing on the outside, and Conor can grab ahold of him, how is Mayweather going to shake him off? | ||
| He's not going to. | ||
| If Conor decides to just wrap ahold of one of his arms, just get him in an overhook, and just start punching him in the face... | ||
| Floyd's fucked. | ||
| His whole thing is boxing. | ||
| His whole thing is boxing moves. | ||
| His shoulder rolls, moves. | ||
| He's not going to be able to stop Conor from grabbing him. | ||
| Conor's a bigger, stronger guy if he grabs Floyd by the back of the neck and holds him in place and punches him in the face. | ||
| Floyd's fucked. | ||
| I don't think he understands when you say the clinch is okay. | ||
| If you could strike from the clinch... | ||
| He's fucked. | ||
| I'll put my money on Conor all day if he can strike from the clinch. | ||
| Now, if they just have an MMA fight with boxing gloves, or a boxing fight with MMA gloves, rather, that is a different thing. | ||
| That's a different animal, and I think Floyd's just so much better than him. | ||
| That's what I thought that you meant. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I mean, clinching. | ||
| What I read, the only difference, they're not going to let him kick, they're not going to let him punch, they're not going to let him elbow or knee or takedown or submissions, but they'll let him clinch. | ||
| And punch from the clinch. | ||
| Just that alone. | ||
| That's a game changer. | ||
| Just that alone. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know. | ||
| I'm going to have to see that. | ||
| Because, you know, Floyd's going to know. | ||
| They're going to work on that as well. | ||
| He's going to work on those defenses. | ||
| He's an incredible athlete. | ||
| I mean, there's only a few things. | ||
| This is not like he's going to have to learn the whole game. | ||
| Yeah, but holding on to someone and punching them is such a different, it's just a completely different chapter. | ||
| Yeah, but as soon as you hold on to somebody, that means you incapacitated your own arm as well. | ||
| You don't have the defense there as well. | ||
| So Mayweather can start attacking him. | ||
| Also, it's a one-hand fight. | ||
| It's literally ice hockey, right? | ||
| If you think about it. | ||
| It's a grap and they start hitting each other. | ||
| Sort of, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| But smaller gloves. | ||
| Connor will have more impact with his punches. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| And he's so much more used to fighting from the clinch like that, where you can hold and hit at the same time. | ||
| I'm interested in that fight. | ||
| What about foot stomps? | ||
| You know what, that's what last time I heard somebody say, the always super effective foot stomp. | ||
| So give me one fight that ever got stopped with a foot stomp. | ||
| Never. | ||
| Ever! | ||
| It's annoying. | ||
| It's annoying. | ||
| Have you ever fought where somebody foot stomped you? | ||
| No. | ||
| Never? | ||
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No, never. | |
| Did you ever foot stomp anybody? | ||
| No, no. | ||
| I think I'm one of those guys who would do it back and that's why they didn't do it. | ||
| Marco Huas was like the first guy to introduce that, wasn't he? | ||
| Yeah, you did that, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, Marco. | ||
| You got a bunch of notes here, man. | ||
| Yeah, I know I do. | ||
| I just spread it out. | ||
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You're very serious. | |
| This is one of my pet things. | ||
| I'm throwing it out. | ||
| Because, you know, going back to karate and reading about it, get all the terms back. | ||
| That's, you know, so that's why I'm going here. | ||
| Like the marshy gears. | ||
| We knew that a world was a gear suit What Toby or am I was a gear all those kicks you see but you should know this and you know this you just That's what I want no background. | ||
| Oh, that's you get the Jackie's Yeah, yeah, we got the Jackie's we got the Gary's again Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| So, how many events are they going to do a year of this? | ||
| It's a whole bunch. | ||
| They're going to spread them out all over the place. | ||
| For the people, what I would say, it's just karate.com. | ||
| What a great domain name, by the way, as well. | ||
| Yeah, how do they get that? | ||
| Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. | ||
| That must have been expensive as fuck. | ||
| I think so, too. | ||
| But they have it. | ||
| Go there for all your favorite fighters. | ||
| Check it out. | ||
| Karate.com. | ||
| Karate.com. | ||
| Yeah, that's a big one. | ||
| That's a big thing to have. | ||
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Yeah, I know. | |
| Holy shit! | ||
| Who the fuck owns Jujitsu.com? | ||
| Jujitsu.com. | ||
| What a website that must be. | ||
| To own that? | ||
| Yeah, well, I think there's other ones out there that give you even more. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Nakedgirls.com. | ||
| That gives you a lot of money. | ||
| That's a lot of money. | ||
| Way more than karate.com, I think. | ||
| Like sex.com. | ||
| Oh, that's crazy. | ||
| Don't even click on it. | ||
| You'll get a bunch of pop-ups and viruses and shit. | ||
| A friend of mine does that. | ||
| What is this, Jamie? | ||
| Makeup.com sold for $2 million. | ||
| Rodeo.com and Karate.com for $500,000 total. | ||
| My body bought nude.com for $2 million. | ||
| Three weeks later, sold it for AIDS. Damn. | ||
| Three weeks. | ||
| That's what he does. | ||
| Buying domain names. | ||
| Smart. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Smart. | |
| Can you imagine go back in time? | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| He started writing all the domain names down. | ||
| Yeah, nobody even saw any of this shit coming. | ||
| Didn't business.com go for like $10 million? | ||
| Something crazy? | ||
| Meanwhile, who the fuck is going to business.com? | ||
| I wouldn't give you a nickel for that shit. | ||
| Who the fuck's going to business.com? | ||
| What are you doing there? | ||
| I'm gonna do business. | ||
| That's stupid. | ||
| If you're doing business, you don't go looking at business.com. | ||
| That doesn't even make any sense. | ||
| That's a worthless fucking domain. | ||
| I bet that's a ghost town. | ||
| I bet no one's going to business.com. | ||
| Business.com. | ||
| What is it? | ||
| Know your business. | ||
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We have something going on here. | |
| Grow your business. | ||
| Fuck off. | ||
| Do it different. | ||
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Do B-U-Z-N-I-S. Yeah, even then. | |
| Business. | ||
| Oh, no one's going to that. | ||
| You go to that, it's a porn site. | ||
| You can't spell. | ||
| Yeah, you're an idiot. | ||
| Triple X. You go to that. | ||
| That's a Nigerian scammer telling you you've won a bunch of money and it starts glowing up. | ||
| You get a telephone call. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So where did this originate? | ||
| What country started this? | ||
| Well, karate of Japan. | ||
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No, no, no. | |
| I mean this event. | ||
| No clue. | ||
| I'm going to meet these people face to face. | ||
| You've never met them? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Because I've been doing commentary and I met some people from the organization because I did some commentary over some fights together with Phoenix Carnevale. | ||
| She's great. | ||
| She was doing a lot of stuff for Lion Fight. | ||
| I met her and her boyfriend in New York. | ||
| Not this last UFC in New York, but in the past. | ||
| I got her tickets for the UFC. She's excellent. | ||
| Really good at post-fight interviews. | ||
| She's doing commentary with you. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Perfect. | ||
| She's very knowledgeable. | ||
| Yeah, no, it was great. | ||
| And we pulled it off right away, so that's why we met these people there. | ||
| We did it in Long Island when I was filming there. | ||
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Nice. | |
| And so there was an event in Long Island as well? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| We just did it in my hotel. | ||
| So you did commentary like watching it on screen? | ||
| Is that what it was? | ||
| Watching it on screen. | ||
| Had some people coming in with special microphones, so we tuned it up, you know, then it was exactly the same. | ||
| You did that a bunch of times for Pride, right? | ||
| Where you were in America and you were doing commentary for events that were happening in Japan? | ||
| Yeah, and we do the commentary right over it, live. | ||
| What was that like? | ||
| It was weird? | ||
| No, it's not weird at all. | ||
| But I hope that the speed was up, you know, because if you see an armbar coming, that I never knew. | ||
| I never re-watched it again to say, you know, when an armbar is happening, I say, he's setting up an armbar, you know? | ||
| If that delay is five seconds or ten seconds, yeah, you have a problem. | ||
| But I don't think it is, because they stream it out, they shoot it out. | ||
| From the studio. | ||
| So it's like you're watching the fights live. | ||
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That's it. | |
| Wasn't there some that you guys did where the fights had already happened and you knew the results? | ||
| Oh, I did that with Stephen Quadros. | ||
| We did the first 10, I believe, Pride shows. | ||
| You know, before 2000, it wasn't sent out on pay-per-view. | ||
| Right, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| So they asked us to do those shows. | ||
| Man, I remember sitting there in Holland. | ||
| We were sitting with Red Bull. | ||
| We had Stack. | ||
| Remember those pills? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| We were like, shh! | ||
| Heart attack pills. | ||
| Oh, it was so funny. | ||
| Quattro's got so crazy. | ||
| He's so hilarious when he gets in his zone, you know? | ||
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He started suddenly, I'm watching a fight, and I hear... | |
| And I look to the side, he's eating a green apple in front of the microphone. | ||
| No, but this is eight hours in, right? | ||
| We're watching really boring stuff also. | ||
| Oh, this was, by the way, this was not Pride. | ||
| We did Pride, but then we did, on top of that, we did another one as well. | ||
| Pride we did here. | ||
| That's what we did here in America with Bud Brutsman. | ||
| And the other show we did in Holland with all these old, crazy Russian guys who had like an A and an E and a name and the rest was V-P-S-T-R-M-Z. You know, I mean, I would call them the guy with the red hair or the guy with the red pants because I couldn't pronounce their names. | ||
| Yeah, there's some guys in the UFC that when I read their names at the weigh-ins, I have to pause and try to put it together, like some of them. | ||
| It's hard. | ||
| And you don't want to butcher them. | ||
| And then you have these guys, like the fans, right? | ||
| They say, oh, you butchered so-and-so's name. | ||
| I say, what do you say? | ||
| Bas Rutten? | ||
| Yeah, you just butchered my name. | ||
| It's Bas Rutten. | ||
| It's not Rutten. | ||
| Is that how you're supposed to say it? | ||
| Yeah, it's not Ernesto Hoost. | ||
| It's Ernesto Hoost. | ||
| It's Pieter Achts. | ||
| It's not Pieter Ertz. | ||
| You know, you see, I mean, if you really want to start, we asked Fedor one time, what does your mother call you? | ||
| He says, Fyodor. | ||
| I said, we call you Fyodor. | ||
| We did that on Pride. | ||
| Everybody, you're butchering his name. | ||
| His mom calls him like that. | ||
| That's what we asked. | ||
| Well, Mauro was the only one that would call him that. | ||
| Mauro always called him Fyodor. | ||
| Fyodor is... | ||
| Morrow is very precise with that kind of stuff. | ||
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Yes. | |
| Morrow's excellent. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, he really is. | ||
| He's great at that. | ||
| It's so nice to see him doing all those big-time boxing matches, too. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know? | ||
| He's a good guy. | ||
| That guy, if you sit next to him, it's... | ||
| When people say, oh, it's fake as this, trust me, it's... | ||
| That's what they say. | ||
| That is how he talks, Boss Rutan! | ||
| Oh, he gets in his own bubble, and then, you know, if I look at him, I can put my hand in front of his face. | ||
| If he's in the zone, he doesn't see anything. | ||
| He only sees the fight, and he's going to town. | ||
| And everybody steps away and just looks at him. | ||
| No, he's designed for it. | ||
| He's designed for that. | ||
| Love it. | ||
| He's doing WWE, too, right? | ||
| Yeah, he's insane. | ||
| He does everything. | ||
| So he does WWE, he's doing Showtime boxing. | ||
| Does he do any MMA anymore? | ||
| Oh no, the Bellator... | ||
| Does he still do that? | ||
| I believe he did. | ||
| I know Goldberg does a lot of the Bellators now. | ||
| So he does some of the Bellators? | ||
| I think so. | ||
| I think the big shows probably. | ||
| Because a lot of them Goldberg's doing now. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, they got a whole crazy team there. | ||
| And Jimmy is over at the UFC. Jimmy's with us now. | ||
| I got him a gig at the UFC. Nice! | ||
| Yeah, we worked together for the first time this Saturday night. | ||
| It was great. | ||
| Yeah, good. | ||
| He's a good guy. | ||
| He's a great guy. | ||
| He's fucking excellent. | ||
| He's an excellent commentator. | ||
| I tried to get the UFC to hire him four years ago. | ||
| So for me to be there Saturday night sitting next to Jimmy, I was like, look at this, man. | ||
| We're hugging. | ||
| We did it! | ||
| We made it happen. | ||
| That is so cool, huh? | ||
| Here we are. | ||
| It was perfect, too. | ||
| Because we're friends. | ||
| It's very easy. | ||
| The commentary flowed. | ||
| Very nice together. | ||
| You know, we had a good time. | ||
| That's what happened also with me and Mauro. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| You know, there's his friends and you try it out. | ||
| It's the best. | ||
| And then it's just a conversation. | ||
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Right. | |
| Well, that's why me and Goldberg worked so well for so long. | ||
| Because we're so tight. | ||
| It's so easy. | ||
| So easy. | ||
| But whatever. | ||
| The UFC and him didn't see eye to eye for whatever reason. | ||
| It's a bummer. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I love Anik too. | ||
| Anik's a great guy. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| There's a lot of good guys. | ||
| And what the fans should know is that a play-by-play guy doesn't need to know everything. | ||
| He doesn't need to know the techniques. | ||
| That's why we are the experts, the caller guys. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because I have so many people that say, oh, why don't you take Goldberg's place? | ||
| They say, I'm a play-by-play. | ||
| I'm a caller guy. | ||
| He's a play-by-play. | ||
| He's a complete different animal. | ||
| That's a hard gig. | ||
| Yeah, especially for TV. Yeah. | ||
| If you've got to go to commercials and do all that kind of stuff, it's much harder. | ||
| Anik and Goldberg, those guys are wizards at that stuff. | ||
| That is a hard job. | ||
| It's way harder than our job. | ||
| Our job of doing color, We see the fight. | ||
| We call it. | ||
| We call it. | ||
| We already do it. | ||
| And we've been doing martial arts our whole life. | ||
| We know what's happening. | ||
| So we see it. | ||
| We go, oh, that's a roundhouse kick. | ||
| Oh, he's going to get the triangle. | ||
| Oh, he's getting out. | ||
| He's free. | ||
| He's out. | ||
| We're watching it in real time. | ||
| They have to prepare. | ||
| I mean, they're preparing everything like long in advance and practicing and going over, okay, turn to page seven, you know, beat 152. You got to introduce Monster Energy Drink and they're stepping into the Monster Prep Screaming in the ears the whole time, you hear it? | ||
| It's a fucking hard gig. | ||
| It's a fucking hard gig. | ||
| The coordination and traffic cop and making sure that everything runs smoothly. | ||
| So Kenny, Kenny Rice, he's insane. | ||
| He does 26 professional sports, like at the highest level. | ||
| I mean, he did football. | ||
| They never did it. | ||
| My buddy calls me, he says, boss, how many times did you do football? | ||
| I said, what do you mean? | ||
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He says, he could be the best guy I've ever heard. | |
| I say that this is the first time. | ||
| He's insane. | ||
| When he came to the International Fight League, he never did mixed martial arts. | ||
| Same as with Mauro. | ||
| Never did mixed martial arts. | ||
| But within two shows, it's insane. | ||
| But they learn. | ||
| Mauro got the DVD set. | ||
| Kenny gets the DVD set. | ||
| And they actually watch it. | ||
| They start learning about it. | ||
| And then they get it. | ||
| And they ask you questions. | ||
| Like, boss, what should he do? | ||
| Boss, is he in trouble? | ||
| What's going on here? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Are you still doing it for, it used to be World Combat League, I mean, no, what was the... | ||
| World Series of Fighting. | ||
| World Series of Fighting, and now it's Professional... | ||
| Professional Fighters League. | ||
| Are you still doing that? | ||
| Yes, June. | ||
| We're going to start. | ||
| That's nice. | ||
| And so they still have John, is John Fitch in Bellator now? | ||
| Oh, I don't know. | ||
| I feel like Fitch might have just went to Bellator. | ||
| That would be not a smart move, because they're going to come at the million dollar prize, right? | ||
| If you win this season, in every weight class, you're going to get a million dollars. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, no kidding. | ||
| So, yeah, that's going to be a nice little pull. | ||
| I don't think that John, if that's 100% still in place, I think that John will stay. | ||
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I don't know. | |
| I feel like John just went to Bellator. | ||
| See if you Google John Fitch Bellator. | ||
| I know Benson Henderson, Roger Huerta. | ||
| Obviously, they have Rory McDonald. | ||
| He's, in my opinion, one of the best, if not the best welterweight in the world. | ||
| So that's a big deal for them to have him, as is Douglas Lima. | ||
| And Musassi. | ||
| March 1st signed with Bellator. | ||
| March 1st signed with Bellator. | ||
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Oh, wow. | |
| Damn. | ||
| I wonder if you knew. | ||
| They must have came with a large cheddar. | ||
|
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Yeah, yeah, that's true. | |
| Bellator brought him some cheddar. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| He's got a big name, you know? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| There it is. | ||
| John Fitch signs at Bellator. | ||
| Well, John's 40 years old now, right? | ||
| How old is John? | ||
| Have you had a guess? | ||
| February 24th. | ||
| It's a great day to be born. | ||
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Is it? | |
| Yeah, it was born. | ||
| How old is he? | ||
| 40. Bam. | ||
| Look at me. | ||
| I know shit. | ||
| I've been watching John fight since he was in his 20s. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Time flies, baby. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Fuck. | ||
| If I go back... | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| Dude, I had a poster of you. | ||
| From the first time you fought in the UFC, they gave me one of those posters that said, the world's greatest martial artist. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it was you fighting for the UFC when you fought Tiyoshi Kosaka. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Remember that? | ||
| They asked me, I said, they messed up right there. | ||
| They forgot a word. | ||
| I told them specifically the world's greatest looking martial artist. | ||
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But they forgot that word. | |
| Yeah, they were hyping it up big time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, that was cool. | ||
| What a time that was. | ||
| Peretti? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He came over to Japan at the time, was fighting to check me out, and he said, they want you in the UFC, so can you come over there? | ||
| You know, someone just said something online. | ||
| Someone said something about me talking shit about John Peretti, which could not be further from the truth. | ||
| Some guy left a comment on Twitter. | ||
| I was like, you're out of your fucking mind. | ||
| I never said a bad thing about that guy in my life. | ||
| I love John Peretti. | ||
| And I used to love his commentary, even when people hated him. | ||
| When we were saying things like, ride him like a pony. | ||
| He was riding someone like a pony. | ||
| Right? | ||
| He mounts them like a perennial suit. | ||
| I always thought perennial is great. | ||
| He called it like he saw it. | ||
| I mean, he fucking had a deep background in martial arts, world kickboxing champion, black belt in jiu-jitsu. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| I love that guy. | ||
| He knew everything. | ||
| And he would say whatever he wanted to say. | ||
| He doesn't care. | ||
| Yeah, he doesn't give a fuck. | ||
| Politician stuff. | ||
| Where do people get things sometimes? | ||
| And then it becomes like some sort of a weird rumor. | ||
| And I didn't respond to the guy. | ||
| He's like, you know, you should stop talking shit about John Peretti. | ||
| I'm like, whenever? | ||
| Whenever did I do that? | ||
| You remember the boss with an invitational. | ||
| We did that a long time ago. | ||
| There was a lot of great fighters. | ||
| Nate Marquardt, O2 men. | ||
| I mean, Jens Pulver. | ||
| Everybody was on those cuts. | ||
| I was in Colorado. | ||
| I was in, I think, 99-something around that time. | ||
| There was one time he had a 16-man tournament. | ||
| He had to fight four times. | ||
| And Pulver actually lost in the finals to a guy who he never heard from. | ||
| That was weird because Pulver became huge. | ||
| Anyway, Ron Waterman is fighting this out of shape, out of big guy. | ||
| And Peretti, because I got Peretti as the matchmaker, because I knew if I have Peretti as the referee, if I have the referee, everybody's going to come because they want to show off in front of the UFC matchmaker. | ||
| And then they're going to fight in our thing. | ||
| The boss with the Invitational. | ||
| So he's fighting Ron Waterman and he goes to Ron Waterman and he says, listen, this guy doesn't have a lot of skills. | ||
| Don't go too hard. | ||
| Could you please don't do too crazy? | ||
| So Ron takes him down right away. | ||
| He's on top and he loads up and he goes very gentle, starts hitting him like a gentle giant, like really not hard. | ||
| And Peretti walks in, breaks it up and he says, okay, it's over. | ||
| The big guy on bottom jumps up and he gets in Paredes' face, the corner jumps over the rope, we get in Paredes' face, and they start yelling, yelling at this bullcrap, bullcrap. | ||
| Everybody gets super aggressive and Paredes goes suddenly, okay, okay, you want to fight? | ||
| Yeah, okay. | ||
| Okay, we restart the fight. | ||
| And they restart the fight and he walks to Waterman and he says, do anything you want to do. | ||
| Oh no! | ||
| Oh yeah! | ||
| Ron Waterman was a fucking gorilla. | ||
| Animal! | ||
| He was a gorilla. | ||
| Dude, he takes that guy down, he starts, he mounts him like a pony. | ||
| He starts hitting him. | ||
| Peretti looking in the audience. | ||
| He's looking away. | ||
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Oh, no. | |
| Now the guy gets hit. | ||
| He gets mauled. | ||
| Bong, bong. | ||
| And he's looking into the audience far away. | ||
| And suddenly he looks back. | ||
| He goes, oh, oh, I'm sorry. | ||
| Break. | ||
| Rob, stop fighting. | ||
| The guy is all bashed up. | ||
| And he walks to the corner. | ||
| He says, it's your fault. | ||
| You did this. | ||
| And then you walked off. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| To early days. | ||
| You could do that stuff. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| It was crazy times. | ||
| Remember when they had that one just submission only thing? | ||
| And they had Olympic wrestlers versus MMA fighters. | ||
| And I think... | ||
| Oh, Matt Hume by Hilhug, right? | ||
| The first one. | ||
| We talked about this before. | ||
| Jackson? | ||
| No, it wasn't Kevin Jackson. | ||
| What's the other one? | ||
| Kenny Munday. | ||
| Kenny Munday. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And Frank Shamrock fought Dan Henderson. | ||
| Zinoviev was there? | ||
| Was Zinoviev in that one, too? | ||
| Zinoviev was an animal. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He was in World... | ||
| What was it? | ||
| Extreme Combat, right? | ||
| That was it. | ||
| That was the Peretti show. | ||
| Yeah, he was the guy who tapped Mario Sperry. | ||
| And Peretti at the time already had weight classes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Remember? | |
| He was far ahead of his time. | ||
| Look at Matt. | ||
| Look at Matt. | ||
| Fucking stud. | ||
| I know him like this. | ||
| Look at Maurice Smith in his corner. | ||
| Yeah, that was... | ||
| Old days, man. | ||
| The old days. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah, play this. | ||
| This was interesting. | ||
| Because back then, these wrestlers thought to just be... | ||
| And Dan Gable was one of the guys that was doing commentary. | ||
| It was really fascinating. | ||
| Because Dan Gable thought that if you were on the bottom, you should be losing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, they had that wrestler's mentality. | ||
| Well, you know, you took the guy down. | ||
| Look at that! | ||
| Baba Booey! | ||
| That's hilarious! | ||
| Is that a perm? | ||
| Gary Delabate is the fucking ring card guy. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Kenny Munday. | ||
| Tank. | ||
| Olympic wrestler. | ||
| Kevin Jackson right behind him there. | ||
| Yeah, so they go at it. | ||
| And he's got his knuckles up, which is weird because they're not boxing. | ||
| So he's trying to wrestle them. | ||
| And Matt Hume, barefoot. | ||
| Kenny's wearing shoes. | ||
| Matt Hume, what a fucking martial artist that guy is. | ||
| Oh, super smart. | ||
| What a coach, too. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| Well, you see it now in what he's done with Mighty Mouse. | ||
| I mean, you realize what depth of knowledge this guy has. | ||
| Not to take anything away from Mighty Mouse, of course. | ||
| He's got a tremendous amount of knowledge, too. | ||
| But the fact that Matt Hume is able to take this guy, so he just drops down. | ||
| On purpose. | ||
| Yeah, on purpose. | ||
| And now he's gonna start working. | ||
| He went for it! | ||
| That's hilarious! | ||
| That's not a good thing against a guy who knows leg locks. | ||
| Not only that, while you're wearing shoes. | ||
| That's what's really stupid about it. | ||
| He's gonna do a toe hold? | ||
| Oh yeah, he's gonna do a toe hold. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| Tap, tap, tap. | ||
| That was attacking the ankle and the knee. | ||
| That was both. | ||
| Because his knee was twisted up too. | ||
| I saw John Loeber in Pancras with a toe hold broke his shin bone. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I remember that Jason DeLucia, I just walked into the arena. | ||
| I said, did he just broke his shinbone? | ||
| And he walked back And he looks at me because he's up next and he says, what happened to the word ow? | ||
| He said to me because Loeber just kept on fighting. | ||
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You see the leg all flapping left and right? | |
| And he jumps on his opponent. | ||
| He's another forgotten guy. | ||
| Kind of an animal. | ||
| Yeah, he was. | ||
| The olden days. | ||
| The olden days. | ||
| There were some fucking crazy fights when you go back then and look at those olden days. | ||
| Yeah, I remember we were talking about Yves. | ||
| Edwards. | ||
| Eve Edwards. | ||
| He was on the podcast last week. | ||
| Oh, and he was underground fighting. | ||
| And I remember it was a tank effort was there. | ||
| I remember that they... | ||
| Okay, so this is what happened. | ||
| The Atlantic Commission said the police is there to check. | ||
| So John Loeber goes into the cage with another guy with their jeans on and they start wrestling. | ||
| So the Atlantic Commission, the police sees that and they think that is what's going to happen tonight. | ||
| They leave. | ||
| They lock the doors. | ||
| DJ comes on. | ||
| He says, okay, they're gone. | ||
| We can fight, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| Like people from porn industries start throwing porn DVDs in the audience. | ||
| This was the wildest place, right? | ||
| So, Yves is fighting, and he's mounting this guy, and he sits next to the cage, and I'm standing, I mean, I'm a foot away from him, because I'm standing next to the cage, and the cage is raised, and he's raining down straight, straight, straight, straight, straight, straight, and I go, Yves! | ||
| And he stops punching, and he looks at me, and I say, hook straight, dude, and he goes, hook straight out. | ||
| Knocked him out immediately. | ||
| Not only straight, he immediately listened, hook straight, knock the guy out. | ||
| The old days. | ||
| Well, good days, though. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| Well, it's amazing to be a part of something that developed like that because there's no other sport where you go back to 1993 and then look at it in 2018 and it's almost unrecognizable. | ||
| You know? | ||
| I mean, martial arts, mixed martial arts in particular. | ||
| I mean, if you look at what martial arts were, there was a lot of great Thai boxers back then, of course. | ||
| There was a lot of great kickboxers. | ||
| But the difference between the mixed martial arts from 93 to 2018, it's a totally different world. | ||
| It's a completely different world. | ||
| In the beginning, if you knew it all, well, you're going to win, you know? | ||
| But there wasn't anybody who knew it all back then. | ||
| Not a lot, yeah. | ||
| There was a few guys that had, you know, a good base of knowledge in some of the other sports, but mostly they were specialists. | ||
| They were either a wrestler or a karate guy. | ||
| One glove. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| Or Jimerson. | ||
| I remember Kent telling me about the event. | ||
| They were in the back, and they thought that there was still gonna be a work. | ||
| You know, a lot of people. | ||
| And then the first fight went on, and it was Gordeaux against the sumo guy. | ||
| Oh, and he kicked his teeth into the crowd. | ||
| He said, boss, it got really great backstage. | ||
| So guys thought it was fake? | ||
| They thought at any moment still somebody could come in and say, hey, okay, you're gonna have to lose, you're gonna have to win. | ||
| And at that moment that happened, Everybody was like... | ||
| Why did they quit that? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I think there was... | ||
| Just a couple guys who didn't know. | ||
| Like that ninja guy that got beat up by Pat Smith. | ||
| Remember that guy? | ||
| He was like a ninjitsu guy. | ||
| Oh yeah, with the pressure point guy. | ||
| He did all this crazy shit. | ||
| They had the preparation reels. | ||
| They showed how they're preparing. | ||
| He's like... | ||
| Throwing guys out. | ||
| Hitting them with all this crazy shit. | ||
| Then he got in there with Pat Smith. | ||
| He was a fucking badass kickboxer. | ||
| And Pat smashed him and then got on top of him. | ||
| Oh, five, six elbows. | ||
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Elbowed his face. | |
| That's where the blood comes back up, right? | ||
| Oh, it was horrible. | ||
| It was horrible, yeah. | ||
| And it was back in the day when they didn't just stop the fight. | ||
| Yeah, but that's the reason I didn't want to fight in the UFC in the first one. | ||
| Ken asked me about it. | ||
| I said, I would never do that. | ||
| He said, why? | ||
| I said, I need a referee. | ||
| He said, everybody can... | ||
| The guys who say, oh, I'd rather die in the case. | ||
| Okay, good luck with that. | ||
| Not me, dude. | ||
| I have a family. | ||
| I like my life very much. | ||
| I don't like to die. | ||
| I said, as soon as there's a referee who can actually step in, I would like to do it. | ||
| There was a referee that was there when you tapped to stop it. | ||
| But you had to tap. | ||
| But if you got knocked out, they just keep beating you up. | ||
| You know, and what John said, because when John drew the line, I believe it was with Tank Abbott. | ||
| Tank Abbott got beat up really bad. | ||
| He looked at the corner to throw the towel. | ||
| They turned his back to him. | ||
| Later on, when he went to them, they said, well, if we would have stopped it, Tank was going to beat us up. | ||
| That's what he told us. | ||
| So that's why we didn't throw a towel. | ||
| And that's the moment he said, okay, I'm going to have to step in here, because otherwise... | ||
| Someone's gonna die. | ||
| Yeah, it could have easily happened in those early ones, you know, the early UFC's. | ||
| The kick, the first kick from Gerard Godot. | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| Well, how about Orlando Veet? | ||
| Oh, the elbows. | ||
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Remember that guy? | |
| Well, not just that. | ||
| Do you remember Pardew on him? | ||
| Yeah, Remco took him down, got him in a scarf hold, and just elbowed him completely unconscious. | ||
| Boom, boom, boom. | ||
| Just kept hitting him while he was out. | ||
| But Orlando, like, was one of the first real legit strikers. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| Like, I mean, fucking nasty Muay Thai. | ||
| Powerful guy. | ||
| And not a big guy either. | ||
| Like, 180 pounds? | ||
| It was crazy. | ||
| He had some wars. | ||
| I forgot that. | ||
| Hippolyte. | ||
| Ivan Hippolyte and Orlando Witt. | ||
| I think they fought a whole bunch of times. | ||
| Muay Thai. | ||
| Muay Thai with elbows. | ||
| If those guys were fighting in Holland in the Jappe, look, I got goosebumps now. | ||
| We were there, man. | ||
| That was flying elbows. | ||
| I mean, from the clinch, he would jump up and then rain down elbows to the collarbones, to the top. | ||
| I mean, yeah, complete animal. | ||
| Hippolyte, too. | ||
| Because I went back and forth. | ||
| He would win, then we would win, then Hippolyte would win, constantly back and forth. | ||
| So that's why it was so interesting for us. | ||
| Yeah, if you're just getting into Muay Thai now, and you're just hearing about it, the fucking day we live in today, where you could just go on YouTube and find hours and hours, you could fill the rest of your life just watching amazing fights. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, you can. | ||
| Fuck yeah! | ||
| Just find out about Giorgio Petrosian. | ||
| Just Google Giorgio Petrosian. | ||
| You go, who the fuck is that? | ||
| Who the fuck is that? | ||
| Who the fuck is that? | ||
| You go watch. | ||
| Giorgio, the doctor, baby. | ||
| Unreal. | ||
| Italian. | ||
| There's only one emperor from Italian, right? | ||
| Italian-Armenian, though. | ||
| Wow. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| He needed that. | ||
| Armenian from Italy. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Armenians are fucking crazy, man. | ||
| That's a wild race of people. | ||
| But he's... | ||
| But, you know, but he... | ||
| Okay, but the Italian side of him made him very calculated. | ||
| Technical. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Because Armenian, would you think, okay, I'm going to go in here, I'm going to get you. | ||
| And he was very technical as well. | ||
| Well, it's just his mind, man. | ||
| What was his record at the time? | ||
| Like 54-0 or something, right? | ||
| Something insane. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| He got knocked out in glory. | ||
| He fought that African guy. | ||
| Fuck, I'm trying to remember the homeboy. | ||
| He fought... | ||
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Somebody... | |
| Ilungu? | ||
| Was that who knocked him out? | ||
| I forget who it was. | ||
| But Georgia was so good with angles. | ||
| And technique, I mean, his technique was flawless. | ||
| And if you ever watch him drill, you recognize why he was so good. | ||
| I mean, he was so technical and precise in his drilling. | ||
| But you see what he's doing? | ||
| He's punching right away. | ||
| Watch. | ||
| Steps to the side, see? | ||
| He's moving while he is punching. | ||
| But he lands the punches with two feet on the floor still, and then he moves. | ||
| That's perfect technique. | ||
| Yeah, perfect technique. | ||
| Yeah, he's someone to really watch. | ||
| Like Giorgio Petrosian. | ||
| Who knocked him out? | ||
| It was a big upset. | ||
| It was in New York. | ||
| And it was when Glory was promoting him as, you know, who he was. | ||
| And he just got caught. | ||
| He got caught by a fucking vicious striker. | ||
| Well, it was not a Dutch guy, right? | ||
| I think it was Daniel Ilungu. | ||
| Andy Risti. | ||
| Yeah, Risti, see? | ||
| That's the Dutch guy. | ||
| That's who it was. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| They got him. | ||
| Yeah, Risti's a beast. | ||
| See if you can find that fight. | ||
| So you find Andy Ristey versus... | ||
| Petrosian. | ||
| Giorgio Petrosian. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's who it was. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Andy Ristey can crack, too. | ||
| He's dangerous. | ||
| Yeah, there it is. | ||
| Right in Madison Square Garden. | ||
| That was a big deal for them, man. | ||
| To get in Madison Square Garden. | ||
| You know, like, to have that fight. | ||
| Mayweather. | ||
| They invited Mayweather there, remember? | ||
| I heard they paid him a bunch of money to be there. | ||
| Just to be there? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That's hilarious. | ||
| How much did you have to pay him to be there? | ||
| It's got to be a lot. | ||
| Yeah, and Ristys, who is a great fighter in his own, but Ristys is a guy who's really good for a couple rounds, and he would fade. | ||
| And he lost, I forget who he lost to, but he lost by TKO because he faded. | ||
| He faded in the last round. | ||
| It's the fast twitch fibers, you know? | ||
| Once you're explosive, you're really good in the first few rounds, and you're going to have to really doge, make sure that you spread out. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| All your powers, but if your opponent is pushing it and is forcing you to brawl, yeah, you're gonna run out of gas. | ||
| Yeah, I don't remember what it was that caught him. | ||
| I believe it was a punch. | ||
| He got kicked in the nuts. | ||
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Yeah, with a little love tap. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't remember what happened here. | ||
| There's been so many good fights. | ||
| Glory, like I said, I'm a giant fan and I think it's one of the most underrated Underrated organizations in all of combat sports, and they have a great library. | ||
| Oh, there it is. | ||
| Left hand. | ||
| Left hand. | ||
| Boom. | ||
| Caught him. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Crazy. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| Rewind that back for a second. | ||
| It didn't even look like that big of a shot. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Just perfect placement. | ||
|
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Boom. | |
| Uppercut. | ||
| Like sort of a hook uppercut. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Like you stepped into it, switched to southpaw, caught him with a left hand. | ||
| Fuckin' A. Who did... | ||
| Let me pull up Andy Ristey's... | ||
| I think... | ||
| I don't wanna... | ||
| It wasn't... | ||
| I'm trying to remember who beat him. | ||
| Somebody beat him where he was winning early on and then he faded as the fight went on. | ||
| That's a tricky thing for those super explosive guys, like a Conor McGregor, you know? | ||
| It is hard. | ||
| O2 trainer, buddy. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| I'm just throwing it out there. | ||
| Oh, Von Roosmalen beat him, but I think Von Roosmalen beat him by decision. | ||
| Oh, KO, that's it. | ||
| David Kira. | ||
| Kira is an animal. | ||
| But also, Roosmalen is known for his stamina. | ||
| His father was already William. | ||
| He was fighting when I was fighting. | ||
| And he's always coming forward. | ||
| William was not the most technical guy, but dude, the guy had heart and stamina, and he would come for you. | ||
| And it's very hard to fight somebody who's constantly pushing you backwards. | ||
| And that's what he was doing as well with him. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Makes him run out of gas, and then go in for the kill. | ||
| Von Roosmalen is an animal. | ||
| It's just like there's such an amazing pool of talent and glory. | ||
| It's just an amazing organization to watch. | ||
| There's so much talent. | ||
| I don't know why it's not catching on. | ||
| Nobody sees it. | ||
| Yeah, but K1 you would think, okay, all these people at least... | ||
| Yeah, but you love it, I love it, but the average person go to fucking 7-Eleven and go, hey man, what do you think of Robin Van Moosballen? | ||
| Who the fuck are you talking about, man? | ||
| Are you trying to sell something? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, that's it. | ||
| You go somewhere and say, what do you think about Conor McGregor? | ||
| Oh, he's really good when he fights buses. | ||
| You know, people will say crazy. | ||
| They know, right? | ||
| The UFC is very mainstream. | ||
| Glory right now is still very fringe, unfortunately. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah, it would have been greater for them, better, if the UFC had a channel, a TV channel like the WWE. They were going to do that for a while. | ||
| That would be great because then you see Glory will catch on for sure. | ||
| This right now, I don't know how many people at Fight Pass. | ||
| Do you know that number? | ||
| I do not know the number. | ||
| I know they're very happy. | ||
| They make a lot of money, but I don't know the number. | ||
| You know, UFC came real close back in the day to buying a channel. | ||
| But now I doubt they would do that because they spent so much money to buy the UFC. I don't think they could just go buy. | ||
| You know, you want to buy a TV channel, that's hundreds of millions of dollars. | ||
| Channel 1 is still available, I believe. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
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Channel 1? | |
| I don't know. | ||
| I never see anything on anything. | ||
| I will get Channel No. | ||
| 1. That's the same as with a new Bond movie. | ||
| I would 001. That's what I would do. | ||
| I'm 001 instead of 007. He's the seventh guy. | ||
| 001. I'm the first. | ||
| Yeah, I'm number one. | ||
| I'm the original. | ||
| When you go back to those channels, when people were adding channels, when was the last time you heard of a new channel? | ||
| The last new channel was Vice. | ||
| Like the Vice channel. | ||
| And that was like, wasn't that Maxim? | ||
| Didn't they buy Maxim or some shit? | ||
| They usually just switch. | ||
| They switch the name. | ||
| Like radio stations, they switch formats pretty much. | ||
| Right, like Paramount. | ||
| The Paramount network. | ||
| Used to be Spike TV, now it's Paramount. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, look, man, I'm just happy there's some combat sports on TV. I'm happy that Bellator is still around. | ||
| You know, people would say, like, oh, you know, you're in competition with Bellator. | ||
| I'm like, I'm not in competition. | ||
| I'm not in competition. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| I want them to be around. | ||
| I support it. | ||
| I support all of them. | ||
| I wish there was more. | ||
| I wish there was more organizations. | ||
| It's good for everybody. | ||
| Fuck yeah. | ||
| I want to get better. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| It really should. | ||
| But I really wish there was one big Muay Thai organization. | ||
| That's what I wish. | ||
| I wish Glory was Muay Thai. | ||
| So use elbows and use the real full rules. | ||
| Elbows, knees, clinch, the whole deal. | ||
| Let them do everything. | ||
| Fight Muay Thai style. | ||
| It's the best style for stand-up fighting. | ||
| And then put it on TV. Otherwise, have two when you have Glory, Glory elbow. | ||
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Right? | |
| Right. | ||
| I mean, you have special rules, like they did in Holland, because Thai boxing they did not do with elbows, but at special events like Hippolyta and Wheat, what I was just talking about, they added the elbows. | ||
| Oh, no shit. | ||
| They didn't use elbows in some of the events? | ||
| No, no. | ||
| They did everything except the elbows. | ||
| You know, that would be one fight on the card. | ||
| Right. | ||
| They would do that. | ||
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Right. | |
| Well, when you see some guys fight, like John Wayne Parr or Nathan Corbett, perfect example. | ||
| His whole thing was elbows. | ||
| And then he would fight in glory and they'd take the elbows away from him. | ||
| Well, he's obviously very good at all aspects of fighting, but now he can't use one of his best weapons. | ||
| Well, it's taking the headbots out and... | ||
| In the UFC with Coleman. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| That was his thing, remember? | ||
| Fuck yeah! | ||
| Trapping both arms? | ||
| And then just headbutt the shit out of you. | ||
| Yeah, dude, you couldn't stop it. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah, when Mark Coleman was in his prime, headbutts were a real weapon. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Did you headbutt anybody ever? | ||
| No. | ||
| No? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I'll put my face in their face. | ||
| You know, if somebody loads up, I'll right away go with my forehead into his face. | ||
| I will keep the distance closed the whole time. | ||
| I'll make sure my forehead is in front of your face. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Oh, I wait with it. | ||
| If they load up, that's the fun part, right? | ||
| If they do this, and then at the last moment you just lean over. | ||
| So they headbutt themselves in the face, top of your head. | ||
| That's awful. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It works, though. | ||
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I would think that he will be distracted for a moment. | |
| Oh, for sure. | ||
| Did you watch UFC Saturday night? | ||
| No, I did not. | ||
| I had no time. | ||
| I was flying all over the place. | ||
| How dare you? | ||
| No, I had to go to another show. | ||
| Not a fight show, an award show. | ||
| There's this guy that fought on the undercard, Zabit Magomed Sharipov. | ||
| Holy shit is this guy. | ||
| How many times did you rehearse his name? | ||
| Many. | ||
| I fucked it up at the Wayans. | ||
| They were saying, just call him Zabit. | ||
| Just Zabit. | ||
| And I'm like, no, no, no, I can get it. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| My old man shut it off. | ||
| He's fucking phenomenal. | ||
|
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An animal? | |
| He's one of Mark Henry's guys down in New Jersey. | ||
| Okay, that's good. | ||
| I like Mark Henry. | ||
| From Dagestan. | ||
| Okay, yeah. | ||
| Where there's just something in the water over there. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| They just create animals. | ||
| Well, they're trained with bears, right? | ||
| But this guy is tall and skinny. | ||
| And he fought Kyle Bokniak. | ||
| And this kid, Kyle Bokniak, he was... | ||
| Shorter, had a hard time getting in on him, and Zabid had more skill in terms of more techniques and more things that he could do, but goddamn, Bokniak is a fucking animal. | ||
| He is a savage, because he was there at every second of this fight trying to win, never gave up, never quit, and then at the end of the fight, the very end of the fight, in the third and final round, the last minute of the fight, He's pouring it on, and he's got Zabit up against the cage. | ||
| He's screaming at him. | ||
| He's got fucking blood coming out of his mouth. | ||
| He's chasing after him. | ||
| This is the end of the fight. | ||
| It was him standing in front of him. | ||
| They're showing some highlights. | ||
| This is all highlights. | ||
| Yeah, but Zabit, that guy is fucking talented. | ||
| What is his record? | ||
| I think he's undefeated. | ||
| That's good. | ||
| He might have one loss maybe early in his career. | ||
| I feel like he's 15-0 though, I think. | ||
| See if you can find his record. | ||
| Does it say? | ||
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I'm showing you that. | |
| Oh, this is the end. | ||
| So the end of the fight, and I'm telling you, Bokniak is getting his ass kicked the whole fight. | ||
| Look at this, the end. | ||
| Standing right in front of him, hands down. | ||
| Fucking teeing off. | ||
| Holloway. | ||
| The whole crowd going crazy. | ||
| This is my favorite part. | ||
| It ends, the buzzer goes off, and look, fucking hugs. | ||
| Yeah, I love that. | ||
| And they walk around the ring. | ||
| And I'm telling you, there was not a person in the fucking Barclays Center that was sitting down. | ||
| Everybody stood up and went crazy. | ||
| Me too. | ||
| I was standing up. | ||
| The only time during the whole night I stood up and I was clapping. | ||
| You have to. | ||
| Oh! | ||
| You know, if they give it to you all, there's nothing cooler than that. | ||
| You know, that's what Holloway, when he made that line, you know, he drew the line. | ||
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Oh, yeah! | |
| Oh, man, and it became a thing now. | ||
| Yeah, 15 to 1, I was right. | ||
| How's my memory, son? | ||
| You are so good. | ||
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Zabit. | |
| Look at, try saying that name. | ||
| Look at, pull that. | ||
| Okay, Zabit Magomed Sharipov. | ||
| Sharipov. | ||
| Magomed Sharipov. | ||
| Magomed Sharipov. | ||
| It's a fucking animal, man. | ||
| Zabit Magomed Sharipov. | ||
| Very, very talented. | ||
| And Mark Henry was telling me about this kid a long time ago. | ||
| He was telling me, he's like, he goes, I got a world champion. | ||
| He goes, this guy's going to be a world champion. | ||
| I was like, wow, when Mark Henry tells you that? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| No, that's probably what's going to happen. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| I mean, he's got, there's a good fight coming up with, he is, who is, Marlon Marais is fighting, who the fuck is he fighting? | ||
| I love him. | ||
| Good day. | ||
| Great footwork, man. | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| I'm trying to remember who he's fighting. | ||
| I see his face right in front of me. | ||
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Frankie... | |
| Go to the UFC bantamweight division. | ||
| Frankie Rivera. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| That's who he's fighting. | ||
| Now I remember. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It was another animal. | ||
| A guy who beat Uriah Faber. | ||
| Oh, of course. | ||
| Jimmy Rivera. | ||
| Why did I say Frankie Rivera? | ||
| Jimmy is an animal. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, man, he can hit. | ||
| I'm confused. | ||
| There's too many E's. | ||
| Too many E's in this world. | ||
| Jimmy Rivera, who beat... | ||
| He beat a bunch of good guys. | ||
| You should have stopped at 11-1. | ||
| Or 15-1. | ||
| Oh, I remember that. | ||
| Yeah, you were ahead. | ||
| And then right away you messed it up. | ||
| Fucked it up. | ||
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Jesus. | |
| Yeah, Jimmy Rivera. | ||
| He's an interesting guy, too, because he's one of those Tiger Shulman guys. | ||
| Yeah, I was just going to say, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, when I was a kid, when I was living in New York, there was a bunch of Tiger Shulman karate places, but they were always like karate schools. | ||
| We thought of them as like a chain. | ||
| It's like a chain. | ||
| But they developed legit MMA fighters. | ||
| It's like credit to that guy, Tiger Shulman, because he really embraced MMA. And they really developed some real top-level talent. | ||
| Well, once you're open-minded and you know that evolution is there, you know, look at Bruce Lee. | ||
| The book, The Tao of Yeet Kune Do, you'll find toe holes, helix, inverted helix, knee bars. | ||
| I mean, you name it. | ||
| Everything is in that freaking book. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| Yeah, I remember Game of Death. | ||
| Was it Game of Death or Enter the Dragon? | ||
| Enter the Dragon, the opening with the crucifix kind of thing that he was doing for Bolo. | ||
| Crazy! | ||
| Crazy, right? | ||
| I was going like, Bolo could have escaped that. | ||
| He could have breached that, you know? | ||
| For sure. | ||
| But it was there. | ||
| But that's like, you know, some pro wrestling moves. | ||
| You know, you see him, you go, hmm, that wouldn't really work. | ||
| Because if he's flexible in his neck, plus the adrenaline will make you extra flexible. | ||
| Trust me, you're not going to feel the stretch. | ||
| What did you think about that crazy shit with Conor McGregor throwing the dolly at the bus? | ||
| You know, I'm giving Conor a lot of passes, and the only reason I'm giving him a lot of passes is the same as Mike Tyson. | ||
| It's like, you know, you're getting a lot of money, you have the wrong people around you, everybody's a yaysayer. | ||
| You know, if somebody says, hey, you know what, we should throw something against the bus, the whole gang is going to, yeah! | ||
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Let's do that! | |
| Sounds a great idea! | ||
| I think he just got caught up in the moment. | ||
| Be him. | ||
| Try to be him. | ||
| He can't go anywhere. | ||
| He can't pump gas. | ||
| He can't do it. | ||
| Everybody recognizes. | ||
| He's got a lot of pressure on him. | ||
| I think he just has to figure himself out, and it's going to be okay. | ||
| Deep down inside, he's a good guy. | ||
| And I like him. | ||
| And the way with his family and his wife and everything that he does, I hope he never loses that because that made him love him. | ||
| Yeah, but just look at it this way. | ||
| Ray Borg was on that bus. | ||
| Oh, I know, yeah. | ||
| And he got his eyes cut. | ||
| He got corneal abrasions because Conor threw that dolly at the bus. | ||
| I mean, who knows what's going to happen to Ray's eyes. | ||
| See if you can find an update on that, Ray Borg's condition, because he was the one who suffered the most serious injury. | ||
| Michael Chiesa got cut on his head, but I think he's okay. | ||
| I think those are just cuts, and he'll be fine. | ||
| But Ray Borg, you get a corneal abrasion, that's really serious. | ||
| But what I was going to say is imagine if the roles were reversed. | ||
| Imagine if Conor was on the bus and Ray Borg threw a fucking thing. | ||
| Here, UFC Ray Borg yesterday showed a cut below his eye. | ||
| Ugh, it's in his eyeball. | ||
| Ugh, Conor McGregor tacking a bus. | ||
| He had a number of other MMA stars. | ||
| He and a number of other MMA stars are seated on. | ||
| So yeah, so he's got... | ||
| He's got some serious... | ||
| Ray Park is only 24? | ||
| You know, what I was afraid of is that somebody's going to Zoom, just like having with Russell Crowe. | ||
| You remember when you hit the guy with the telephone in his face? | ||
| They had to settle it for like six or eight million dollars because otherwise it was going to go to court. | ||
| And if it goes to court, he's got a felony, can never fight in America again. | ||
| That means for Russell Crowe, could have never done a movie in America again. | ||
| So he had to settle with the guy and he had to give him that money. | ||
| That's a lot of money. | ||
| That guy's probably balling right now. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's probably right now sitting on a beach somewhere, drinking a margarita. | ||
| Go Russell Crowe! | ||
| Well, it depends. | ||
| If he never had money, it's probably gone, right? | ||
| We know how to go. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Taxes. | |
| Oh, he's going to blow my fucking fantasy. | ||
| I had a beautiful fantasy, this guy. | ||
| With his feet up on the beach. | ||
| Pina Colada. | ||
| Something with an umbrella in it. | ||
| Yeah, and it's all gone now, and now he's cleaning, making shoes shine, and then to make his money still in paradise because he couldn't buy a ticket back. | ||
| What I was going to say is, imagine if the roles were reversed. | ||
| Imagine if it was Ray Borg threw the dolly and it cut Conor McGregor's eyes. | ||
| Oh, listen, I'm not saying that it's good. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| First of all, he didn't do it on purpose, but I understand what you're saying. | ||
| I'm just saying, I'm looking at not Conor McGregor. | ||
| I look at what happened to him the last two years, and that's a lot to deal with, you know? | ||
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Yes, it is. | |
| And I think he has to sort that out and I think that the picture this morning with his baby and his wife was there you could tell on his face that There was something like, he was like ashamed. | ||
| Watch the picture. | ||
| Yeah, I've seen it. | ||
| He might go to jail. | ||
| It's entirely possible that they might put him in jail. | ||
| Yeah, that would be not good. | ||
| Because if it's a felony, he's going to have a problem getting into America, right? | ||
| Oh yeah, for sure. | ||
| But that's what I mean. | ||
| It's a very dangerous... | ||
| So what do they do here? | ||
| For his career. | ||
| He's got to settle. | ||
| So if he settles with Michael Chiesa, who already filed a lawsuit against him, or already filed some sort of a complaint, Or charges something. | ||
| So him and Ray Borg, for certain, is going to do the same thing. | ||
| So those two were cut. | ||
| Everybody else on the bus. | ||
| Every other fighter on the bus could sue for emotional damage. | ||
| Oh yeah, they can. | ||
| Including Rose. | ||
| I thought Rose was going to pull out of the fight. | ||
| She was really considering pulling out of the fight. | ||
| She was so shooken up. | ||
| You know, I do... | ||
| Like that he at least because when he talked to Dana there he didn't apologize but he apologized for all the people who were on board right? | ||
| He said no for the fighters I'm so sorry. | ||
| So I'm happy he did that you know but it's something you can turn back and you can you can make it right but you can you can try to make it right like a band-aid on a wound but you know to give him all hell I would say give the guy a little space and then hopefully he'll figure it out and you He'll settle it with those guys. | ||
| Some would say that the only way for him to really learn is to face consequences for his actions. | ||
| And if you just keep giving him space, he's going to just keep pushing the needle, and he's going to keep doing more fucked up things like this. | ||
| No, but that will happen now, right? | ||
| He's going to have to pay. | ||
| He's going to have to pay 100% guarantee. | ||
| He wants to settle. | ||
| He doesn't want to go to court. | ||
| Look, he's got $100 million that he made from that fight. | ||
| Yeah, but does he still? | ||
| And with the taxes and everything off, and with everything he's buying and all, you know what I mean? | ||
| Okay, let's say he's got $30 million left. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Let's say he's got 30 million left. | ||
| Taxes, all that other jazz, what you really get versus what they say you get. | ||
| There's a lot going on there, right? | ||
| Training expenses, bought a house, bought a couple of Bentleys. | ||
| He's going to give out a few million here. | ||
| This is going to cost him a few million. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Minimal. | ||
| If you look at Russell Crowe, the whole thing. | ||
| If they really were going to do this Floyd Mayweather thing, they're not going to be able to do it now. | ||
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Yep. | |
| I mean, if he gets arrested, or he is arrested, but if he gets convicted, and they wind up putting him in jail, it's entirely... | ||
| I mean, he's got charged with assault, mischief, a few other different things. | ||
| Even a felony charges there, right? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I mean, it's entirely possible that there could be some real serious consequences for this, and if they really were going to do that... | ||
| But how many people would pay to see that Mayweather fight in the octagon? | ||
| You know, but give us a little bit of the stupid rules. | ||
| It comes from the Mayweather fight. | ||
| It's like almost Enoki when he fought Ali, right? | ||
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Right. | |
| Just before, there's no more kicks above the waist. | ||
| Yeah, no knees, no grappling techniques. | ||
| I mean, they start changing the rules just an hour or two hours before. | ||
| So what would you like to see them fight? | ||
| In the clinch, do it with knees. | ||
| Knees and elbows. | ||
| Connor will kill him. | ||
| I know, but that's what I want to see. | ||
| I want Connor to win. | ||
| I mean, even if there's no grappling, Connor will kill him. | ||
| Just with kicks. | ||
| Just give him kicks. | ||
| He'll take his legs out. | ||
| Just low kicks, even. | ||
| Just low kicks. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He'll take his legs out. | ||
| All he'd have to do is just fight. | ||
| Do you remember when Rick Rufus fought that Thai guy and the Thai guy just kept his hands out like this and just kicked the shit out of his legs? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's all Conor would have to do. | ||
| He wouldn't even have to box him. | ||
| Just keep his hands out like this. | ||
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Whack! | |
| Whack! | ||
| A couple of those and you see Floyd limping around. | ||
| The next thing you know, the head kick's coming. | ||
| Boom! | ||
| Yeah, okay. | ||
| But let's say the head kick's not allowed. | ||
| Let's say they do the rules like Antonio Inoki versus Ali. | ||
| Well, you can stop him with leg kicks. | ||
| Yeah, but that's what I mean. | ||
| I would do... | ||
| Low kicks. | ||
| That would be a good one. | ||
| The next two weeks, every time he goes to the restroom, he's going to go, oh darn. | ||
| It's hurting. | ||
| Two weeks. | ||
| Look at the leg from Aldo against Uriah Faber. | ||
| Is that the craziest leg you've ever seen? | ||
| Uriah was taking pictures when he was going into the hyperbaric chamber to try to heal up the leg, and his leg was giant purple blotch. | ||
| It was twice the size of his other leg. | ||
| Google that. | ||
| Uriah Faber's leg after Jose Aldo fight. | ||
| Yeah, who's Aldo gonna fight? | ||
| He's fighting someone... | ||
| Oh, Jeremy Stevens. | ||
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Ooh. | |
| Oy, oy, oy. | ||
| That's a tough fight, yeah. | ||
| Look at his leg. | ||
| Oh, my God! | ||
| That is fucking crazy! | ||
| That is fucking... | ||
| First of all, Uriah Faber is a goddamn animal. | ||
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That's... | |
| I could not believe because it started early in the fight already and he just kept hanging in there. | ||
| Yeah, he wouldn't give up. | ||
| He wouldn't give up. | ||
| I mean, it was amazing. | ||
| Amazing that he made it to the end of the round. | ||
| Or the end of the fight. | ||
| I mean, Aldo was just taking that leg out. | ||
| And then I remember I was interviewing Uriah after the fight. | ||
| He could barely stand up. | ||
| He could barely just talk. | ||
| He was in such pain. | ||
| But respect for that guy. | ||
| That guy is tough as shit. | ||
| And that is pain at that moment. | ||
| The next day. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's the real pain. | ||
| When Jimmy Rivera beat Uriah, he beat him with that low leg kick. | ||
| He fucked up Uriah's leg. | ||
| A lot of times that happens with guys. | ||
| They get that low leg kick and then the nerves give out. | ||
| Their foot doesn't work right. | ||
| That happens to a bunch of guys. | ||
| They get hit with that low leg kick and then their nerves just stop working right. | ||
| Yeah, I think that's a more dangerous kick, almost, than a low kick, you know, because you actually can break a bone there with the kick. | ||
| Sure, especially if you hit the thick part of your shin against that little, what is it, the fibula? | ||
| There's the tibia and the fibula. | ||
| Yeah, the tibia and the fibula, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, the fibula is a little tiny thing. | ||
| Yeah, that'll snap. | ||
| That's not designed for kicks. | ||
| No, you can push it. | ||
| We got a shitty design. | ||
| The human bones, that's a shit design. | ||
| Your hand, that's a shit design for a guy who punches as hard as you. | ||
| It's crazy, yeah. | ||
| You know, I shouldn't have taken off the glove. | ||
| Definitely shouldn't have, because these gloves are fucking awesome, man. | ||
| These gloves are good. | ||
| I mean, the only thing about these gloves is they may be too good. | ||
| Like, there's a lot of padding there. | ||
| That's very thick. | ||
| Like, especially with a knuckles gar, like right here, that is thick as shit. | ||
| That's like solid inch plus of padding, maybe even more. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| I like it. | ||
| It's a very... | ||
| Even cushion, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You don't see that a lot. | ||
| Sometimes you push straight through, but this is really... | ||
| Well, certainly protect your hands and even protect your hands better than the UFC gloves. | ||
| I think pride gloves were the best for MMA. They were big, though, but it was cool. | ||
| But they curved. | ||
| Yeah, they curved, so their hands weren't open, even with the thumb. | ||
| Yeah, and it didn't stop the grappling. | ||
| You're a smart guy, and you're creative. | ||
| Have you ever thought about redesigning boxing or MMA gloves? | ||
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No. | |
| Making something where people don't poke each other, or you just think... | ||
| Yeah, no. | ||
| I think people should simply not poke. | ||
| Why would you have your hands open? | ||
| I mean, as a fighter, if it's your profession, you should be able not to poke somebody's eye. | ||
| Come on now. | ||
| What do you think about this proposition? | ||
| Because a lot of people have been talking about this, me included. | ||
| Every time you do a foul, whether it's an eye poke or a low kick to the nuts, you get a point taken away. | ||
| Whether you're meant to do it or not. | ||
| You grab the fence, point taken away. | ||
| So this way there's no warnings and you never do it because you're always worried. | ||
| Well, you're going to get paralyzed a lot in the beginning, but once you realize that everybody's going to get paralyzed, you'll stop. | ||
| So it is, you know? | ||
| It's like giving pedophiles a life-first sentence or death penalty. | ||
| That will stop that disease for 90% as well. | ||
| Just get rid of them. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think they should stop with the cage. | ||
| I think the cage is a bad environment. | ||
| I think it's too easy for guys to trap people up against the cage. | ||
| It's hard for people to see. | ||
| It's hard for the audience to see. | ||
| I don't think there's a benefit in the cage. | ||
| I think the cage was fun in the beginning because it was crazy. | ||
| Like, you can't leave. | ||
| You're trapped in the cage. | ||
| But... | ||
| No one wants to leave. | ||
| They want to fight, right? | ||
| So if they're going to fight, that's not the best environment for fighting. | ||
| The best environment for fighting is like an open area. | ||
| The area that Karate Combat has, that's a nice area. | ||
| It is. | ||
| You see everything. | ||
| Plus, you know, with the walls, I like the walls because you can't lean against them. | ||
| You do that, you're on your back. | ||
| You're a grounded opponent. | ||
| Because they pull you back to the ground. | ||
| Because in karate combat, when you're against the wall, you're not grounded. | ||
| But if they pull you once you're on your back on the ground, you are and you can get hit. | ||
| Yeah, so you can't get away. | ||
| You can't run away. | ||
| It's not like you run out into the audience. | ||
| You would have to go up that ramp. | ||
| But you're contained in the area, but you're not trapped up against a wall like you are with the UFC, with the cage. | ||
| They were going to do a pit all the way in the beginning, right? | ||
| When they were talking about it with Milius. | ||
| Wait a minute, didn't Frank Shamrock do that? | ||
| Frank Shamrock had something. | ||
| That he did... | ||
| Shoot... | ||
| Did he call it Shootbox? | ||
| Frank Shamrock Shootbox? | ||
| I feel like Frank Shamrock did something like this. | ||
| Where he had... | ||
| And then Bob Meyerowitz came back and did something called Yama Pitfighting. | ||
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Remember that? | |
| Yeah, I remember that. | ||
| That was kind of similar to that, too. | ||
| That was something like that, yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But that was in a cage, too, wasn't it? | ||
| Our David came to us to promote arm wrestling where you could hit your opponent. | ||
| Oh, that's right! | ||
| That's right, your arms are tied up and dudes were wailing at each other. | ||
| Oh my god, that was the most ridiculous shit ever. | ||
| I forgot about that one. | ||
| I forgot about that one. | ||
| Guys had their arms taped up, taped together. | ||
| And then they were punching each other in the head. | ||
| What the fuck was that called? | ||
| Extreme arm wrestling or something? | ||
| I have no clue. | ||
| I mean, any name is good for that. | ||
| That shit was so stupid. | ||
| Didn't a couple MMA fighters get involved in that too? | ||
| I'm pretty sure, you know, if they were not on the list somewhere. | ||
| What is this? | ||
| What is it called? | ||
| Oh, here we go. | ||
| Yeah, they tape each other... | ||
| X. Something about X. X-Arm? | ||
| X-Arm. | ||
| So they tape their arms together. | ||
| He's got a glove, too. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| But as soon as you let go... | ||
| Of that thing that you're holding in order, you know, then you don't have that balance. | ||
| You have to, if you're right-handed, you're going to have to put your, oh, kicks too! | ||
| Oh my god, this is so stupid. | ||
| This is so... | ||
| Why don't they simply push him down and win the fight like that, right? | ||
| This is so fucking stupid. | ||
| This is a fight with the bartender. | ||
| They have that arm tied up like that. | ||
| The bartender's behind the bar, your arm is somehow tied, and you're going to have to fight. | ||
| This is so stupid. | ||
| I want to see some of this. | ||
| X-Arm. | ||
| That's what it was called. | ||
| A new sport is born. | ||
| Yeah, not really. | ||
| Yeah, I'm getting crazy. | ||
| I'm throwing kicks. | ||
| Incredible athletes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Ready, set, go! | ||
| I'm going to punch you in your fucking head. | ||
| Now, how do you win? | ||
| Do you win by... | ||
| Oh, you've got an armbar. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| You could do an armbar on the table? | ||
| That shit's ridiculous. | ||
| That is so ridiculous. | ||
| Wait a minute. | ||
| He's on to something. | ||
| This is so stupid. | ||
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The kicks. | |
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Oh, they stopped it. | ||
| But meanwhile, they're tied up. | ||
| Pin his arm. | ||
| You pin his arm, you win? | ||
| Wait a minute. | ||
| Yeah, because that's what you would... | ||
| Or knock him out. | ||
| This is so fucking stupid. | ||
| So why don't they just pin him right away so you don't get hit? | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Doom, doom. | ||
| Can you imagine if you put... | ||
| That's a fucking X-Arm. | ||
| That guy in the audience. | ||
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I can't do this, too. | |
| I used to be a fan of the UFC, but they fucked me over. | ||
| They fucked me over. | ||
| I don't like it anymore. | ||
| I'm a ball about X-Arm. | ||
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I thought those were safety glasses the ref has. | |
| It should, just in case blood comes sprayed into his eye. | ||
| Spit and shit. | ||
| That's a camera? | ||
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It's a ref camera. | |
| Oh my god, it's so dumb. | ||
| That is so fucking dumb. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| I forgot about this. | ||
| I'm so glad you brought this up. | ||
| Oh, that guy got killed. | ||
| He's out. | ||
| And he's hanging on to him. | ||
| Hey, I got him. | ||
| He's out cold. | ||
| Untie me from this dead man. | ||
| I did it to a trading partner one time. | ||
| That's so fucking stupid. | ||
| What'd you do? | ||
| To a trading partner. | ||
| I was very angry. | ||
| More angry than you were at the desk? | ||
| You know what? | ||
| He had a fight in two weeks. | ||
| And he said this weekend, my friend's going to go to Vegas for a bachelor party. | ||
| You think I should go? | ||
| And I go, you're asking me for advice? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I said, no, don't go. | ||
| This is going to go wrong. | ||
| You do drugs, you go drunk, you do everything. | ||
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Right. | |
| Of course it went wrong. | ||
| He did go. | ||
| So now I'm angry because he had a fight going on. | ||
| And I said, he wanted to train. | ||
| He was back on Saturday or Sunday. | ||
| He wanted to train. | ||
| I said, no, let's do Monday. | ||
| Give you an extra day rest. | ||
| Well, now I came in and this time I... You know, normally I never want to knock somebody out, but I want to knock him out. | ||
| Just now I... Because he couldn't fight anyway already. | ||
| This is a young angry boss. | ||
| Angry boss. | ||
| No, he didn't listen and now you get to fight and you're constantly complaining about your losing. | ||
| I mean, it has a reason. | ||
| And this was one of the reasons. | ||
| This was the moment for him to get a lesson. | ||
| So I think first punch I threw. | ||
| But incredible heart. | ||
| And I remember I hit him and I almost didn't feel the impact. | ||
| So you know that I hit him with a loose neck, so to say. | ||
| Went straight through. | ||
| And I remember him falling over the rope. | ||
| And I grabbed my stuff. | ||
| And I walked to my car. | ||
| My car was in the garage. | ||
| We were in the garage and the ring was in there. | ||
| It was at the front of my place. | ||
| And I walked over to my car, and while I walked over, I looked back, and he was still hanging. | ||
| There was no movement whatsoever. | ||
| And I got started to get worried, because now he was out already. | ||
| For like two minutes, no movement whatsoever. | ||
| So I get in my car, and then I drive by, and he still does no movement. | ||
| Is somebody taking care of him? | ||
| I got out of the car, because I wanted to take care of him. | ||
| And as soon as I started walking, he started twitching. | ||
| So I got in my car, and I drove off. | ||
|
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Oh, Jesus. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| That's ridiculous. | ||
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Did he fight? | |
| Yeah, but that was enough for a long time. | ||
| Did he fight? | ||
| He fought and he lost. | ||
| Well, of course he lost. | ||
| You knocked him out two weeks ago. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| He was losing already and it was every time it was somebody else's thing and say, maybe you stop smoking weed for a while. | ||
| Maybe that was going to help. | ||
| What about that? | ||
| Maybe that would help. | ||
| So if you wake up in the morning and you smoke a bong and you do that all day long and you keep doing it, I mean, maybe that's the reason, right? | ||
| Well, it could be a factor. | ||
| You're not getting really to your potential. | ||
| Unless you're Nick Diaz. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It doesn't seem to affect him. | ||
| There's always exemptions. | ||
| Yeah, he's a real exemption. | ||
| I mean, when people think about potheads, you think about someone who's lazy, and you think about people that have bad endurance. | ||
| You would think you'd be lazy. | ||
| But Nick Diaz has phenomenal endurance. | ||
| I mean, he does triathlons. | ||
| Do you know he swam from Alcatraz five times? | ||
| I said two times, and he corrected me. | ||
| He goes, no, bro, five times. | ||
| I'm like, five? | ||
| He swam back from Alcatraz five fucking times in the shark-infested waters of San Francisco. | ||
| But there were also, they said it was a lot of, you know, it was not as bad as what they let the prisoners know, of course. | ||
| Well, it's just because athletes are just so much better now. | ||
| But if you didn't swim, it's not like they let them prepare in prison. | ||
| Like, hey, do laps in the pool. | ||
| Like, those guys, they didn't have any endurance anymore. | ||
| No, they didn't have a little pool either, right? | ||
| I'm thinking, how can you practice swimming? | ||
| But that's a hard one. | ||
| That's a hard one. | ||
| I'm sure some of them made it. | ||
| There's a couple guys did attempt to swim back from Alcatraz. | ||
| And one guy, they found his clothes on the beach and they never found him. | ||
| And they assumed that he got eaten. | ||
| By a shark or some shit and drowned and they just found his clothes. | ||
| But it's entirely possible the guy swam all the way. | ||
| If he was a fucking real animal, could swam all the way, took his clothes off and went, fuck you, I'm out of here. | ||
| Back then, they didn't have no database. | ||
| He's laughing right now. | ||
| He's listening to this podcast. | ||
| He's 90 years old. | ||
| He goes, we're good! | ||
| That was me, those cunts! | ||
| You got a call-in number? | ||
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I got three! | |
| Yeah, I mean, I think nobody, I don't think they know of anybody who definitely successfully made it, but today people do it all the time. | ||
| It's like all those triathlete endurance, those serious animals, those guys who do like triathlons, ultra marathons, those motherfuckers, they have ridiculous cardio. | ||
| But there's a woman also, like a 90-year-old woman who did it? | ||
| Really? | ||
| I mean, yeah, yeah. | ||
| 90 years old? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I'm also from Alcatraz. | ||
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Jesus Christ! | |
| Did you ever go to Alcatraz? | ||
| You did, right? | ||
| Yeah, when I was a kid. | ||
| It was cool, right? | ||
| Yeah, it's pretty cool. | ||
| You know, to go to Al Capone, Sal, and to see all that stuff. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| The movie, The Rock. | ||
| Remember that? | ||
| That's right. | ||
| That was a badass movie. | ||
| Clint Eastwood, right? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| What's his name? | ||
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He's in Escape from Alcatraz. | |
| He plays Frank Morris. | ||
| Which one was The Rock? | ||
| Oh, right. | ||
| The Rock. | ||
|
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Nick Cage. | |
| Nicholas Cage. | ||
| Yeah, that's the difference. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Escape from Alcatraz. | ||
| Anthony Hopkins. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Those guys, they escape from... | ||
|
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No, no, no. | |
| What's his name? | ||
| James Bond. | ||
|
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Bond. | |
| James Bond. | ||
| Oh, James Bond. | ||
| Sean Connery. | ||
| He's also such a badass guy. | ||
| I always love Sean Connery. | ||
| My favorite interview is him with Barbara Walters, where he's talking about smacking women. | ||
| Oh, I was just going to say that! | ||
| They need a smack. | ||
| Sometimes they don't listen. | ||
| You let them have the last word, and that's not enough. | ||
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And they need more and more, and you just have to take your hand and smack them. | |
| Yeah, there it is. | ||
| Escape from Alcatraz. | ||
| Clint motherfucking Eastwood. | ||
| That's an escape, yeah. | ||
| So I don't think anybody definitely escaped. | ||
| And made it across the ocean. | ||
| I don't think like there's one guy that they caught in San Francisco. | ||
| They're still on the FBI's wanted list, but they're assumed drowned. | ||
| They're still on the FBI's most wanted list. | ||
| And what year was it they escaped? | ||
| 62. Oh, wow. | ||
| They might be alive. | ||
| They might be still alive. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Those three guys escaped? | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Look at those creeps. | ||
| And they never got found. | ||
|
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Ah, no. | |
| Wow. | ||
| Probably drowned. | ||
| Man, if you hear us, call us. | ||
|
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Well, I'll tell you what I did. | |
| That will be a story. | ||
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I made it. | |
| Made it across that ocean. | ||
| Google the 90-year-old lady who made it. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| If they would still be alive, they should write a book, right? | ||
| And then just before they die, they say, here, this is how I escaped Alcatraz. | ||
| The money proceeds goes to the family, wherever you live. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Or just write a novel. | ||
| And go, oink, oink. | ||
| This is all fiction. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Like O.J. Simpson did. | ||
| If I did. | ||
| Did you see the interview where he kind of like... | ||
| Says that he did? | ||
| I saw that. | ||
| I didn't see it. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| It's freaky. | ||
| You know, you hear him saying. | ||
| Because sometimes he forgets he doesn't talk in the third person. | ||
| Sometimes he talks. | ||
| And then he took this... | ||
| Suddenly he made this really weird karate stance. | ||
| Like he knew karate. | ||
| And then it's quiet. | ||
| He says, oh, oh. | ||
| Of course, you know, that will be in my mind. | ||
| You know he would correct himself every time? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He took a karate pose. | ||
| It's weird that he's out there roaming around now. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Ladies, he's available. | ||
| Oh, I'm sure there's a lot of crazy bitches out there. | ||
| Apparently that Parkland shooter, that kid that killed all those kids in Florida, he just gets fan mail all day long, they say. | ||
| Girls want to marry him. | ||
| Girls want to marry him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That was the thing with Richard Ramirez, the Night Stalker. | ||
| He just got tons of marriage requests. | ||
| There's a lot of girls who want to marry psychos. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's so strange. | ||
| Yeah, something really bad happened to them when they were young, I guess. | ||
| I mean, otherwise, how do you get there? | ||
| How do you get to a spot like that? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Some people, man. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| We need bigger penalties for things. | ||
| That's what we need. | ||
| I like that, what you said. | ||
| You know, no more warning. | ||
| Boom. | ||
| Do it one time. | ||
| I think actually it's a good idea for fights. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| For fights, I think eye pokes. | ||
| Well, here's the thing. | ||
| Even if you didn't mean to do it, the other guy got poked in the eye. | ||
| And that's a significant impact, and it could affect the vision. | ||
| And we know many fights that have changed the course of the fight. | ||
| Like Travis Brown, Matt Mitrione. | ||
| Mitrione's winning the fight. | ||
| He gets eye-poked by Travis Brown. | ||
| Then he winds up getting beaten up and stopped. | ||
| It was a big, big moment in the fight, and it came from an eye-poke. | ||
| Those kind of situations happen. | ||
| And even if they're by accident, it doesn't matter. | ||
| They happen. | ||
| And when they happen, that's a giant impact. | ||
| And that giant impact should be penalized. | ||
| Because that guy can't see now. | ||
| He's looking like this. | ||
| I got stabbed in my head in pro wrestling, and you literally, what they say, you see three people. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I couldn't focus. | ||
| The referee goes, fight. | ||
| I can't see anything. | ||
| Is this in Japan? | ||
| Yeah, it was pro wrestling. | ||
| He said, fight, fight. | ||
| I said, okay, I'll fight, but... | ||
| They do some hard pro wrestling in Japan sometimes, right? | ||
| Yeah, it's strong style they call it. | ||
| So that's why it's so good for the mixed martial artists because they use real submission moves. | ||
| If you go here to WWE, you know, you see moves and they tap on things that are not even moved sometimes. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So, you know, it's easier. | ||
| A bunch of WWE guys got mad at me because I was analyzing the figure four toe hold and I was saying the other guy is actually in a better position. | ||
| The guy who's getting the toe hold has a heel hook right here. | ||
| Just reach over, grab a hold of that shit. | ||
| You got it. | ||
| People were mad at me. | ||
| WWE guys were so mad. | ||
| For telling the truth. | ||
| They were saying that I'm somehow or another diminishing their thing. | ||
| You guys just did WrestleMania last night. | ||
| It was the biggest fucking thing on TV. It's not diminishing it, but you can't get mad if someone's pointing out reality. | ||
| It is reality. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| If they say... | ||
| I think they're amazing guys. | ||
| Yeah, they're athletes. | ||
| I mean, I was almost about to sign for them a long time ago, but I thought I was going to get away with like 20, 30 shows. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| The minimum was 220. 220 shows a year? | ||
| Yeah, that's without the traveling. | ||
| So I go, you know, and these guys take bombs every single night. | ||
| Can you imagine? | ||
| And that's 220 shows, you know. | ||
| If you look at Stone Cold Steve Austin, all these guys, the rock, Dwayne Johnson, all these guys, they did way more a year. | ||
| They did two shows in one night, they say. | ||
| They were going from town to town. | ||
| That's a crazy life. | ||
| Stone Cold Steve Austin eating raw potatoes because he had no more money. | ||
| Raw potatoes eating in the car, driving from event to event. | ||
| Because he had no money? | ||
| He had no money at the time. | ||
| He was building himself up. | ||
| He was eating raw potatoes? | ||
| It was raw potatoes, yeah. | ||
| What does a raw potato taste like? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's like a raw potato, I guess. | ||
| Not good. | ||
| A little bitter, right? | ||
| Remember when Ken Shamrock was the world's most dangerous man? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Remember he did it? | ||
| Just jacked. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He was so jacked back then. | ||
| It was ridiculous. | ||
| Remember how big he got? | ||
| Holy shit, he got big. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Here's like 260 pounds, I won't know what they think. | ||
| That was fucking huge! | ||
| It's an unbelievably tough way to make a living. | ||
| Unbelievably tough. | ||
| What is this? | ||
| She had to retire yesterday. | ||
| She got kicked in the back at a house show and snapped her neck. | ||
| What's a house show? | ||
| Like a non-televised show. | ||
| One of the 220 shows they have to do, like not in LA, like whenever, Kansas, on a Wednesday night. | ||
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Whoa. | |
| Very injury-prone, man, because it's constantly, constantly, it's really amazing. | ||
| All the faults, all these things are real. | ||
| So people can say whatever they want. | ||
| And people say, oh, pro wrestling is fake. | ||
| Yeah, so is acting. | ||
| Let's be honest there. | ||
| Well, you got one of your worst injuries from stunts, right? | ||
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That's it, yeah. | |
| Sons of Anarchy, right? | ||
| No, Lights Out, the show on FX. You remember that was Holt McAllenay? | ||
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Okay. | |
| If you, by the way, want to talk to him, he's the lead guy in Mindhunter, in that TV show. | ||
| What is Mindhunter? | ||
| Mindhunter, you didn't see on Netflix? | ||
| Oh, that's that show about serial killers, right? | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| Oh, no kidding. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah, I mean, look, man, what they have to do is one of the hardest jobs in all show business. | ||
| 220 shows a year getting slammed and knocked around like that, it's one of the hardest jobs in show business. | ||
| But... | ||
| You're a tough guy. | ||
| Don't be such a pussy if someone says that a figure four leg lock doesn't work. | ||
| The skin is very thin. | ||
| It's just very thin. | ||
| I don't understand. | ||
| Instead of thinking that's constructive criticism. | ||
| Yeah, I got nothing but respect for them. | ||
| But relax. | ||
| You should be able to take jokes. | ||
| You can't tell jokes anymore. | ||
| - What is going on? - I was on Inside MMA, right? | ||
| I'm telling at the wrap up, and I didn't even know this was a wrap up, I don't even remember I said this. | ||
| So I'm busy and I said, yeah, right hook, right hook knockout, we see highlights. | ||
| And I tell Kenny Rice, I said, man, right hook knockout. | ||
| I said, I love to see that, it's so underused, the right hook. | ||
| I said, you should really practice that. | ||
| So Kenny says to me, how do you practice that? | ||
| I said, well, if you're married, you said, hey, honey, can you come over here for a second? | ||
| And right away, I'm looking in the camera and I say, I'm kidding, of course, right? | ||
| And I'm literally saying it because I know there's always people. | ||
| But I started laughing. | ||
| It's a joke. | ||
| I don't even remember me saying this. | ||
| On my Facebook, I had this... | ||
| You know, feminist organization attacking me that I couldn't say that I would hit my wife. | ||
| And I go, I didn't say it. | ||
| I went through the whole show and I go, where did I say it? | ||
| And it was literally the last 20 seconds where I said it. | ||
| And two seconds later I said, I'm just kidding. | ||
| It's a joke. | ||
| You could never do that. | ||
| You know, but people are so thin-skinned. | ||
| You can't do anything anymore. | ||
| These were the same people when they asked me what did I enjoy the most of women fighting. | ||
| I thought I'd make a joke. | ||
| I said, the weigh-ins. | ||
| Right? | ||
| I thought it was funny to say because they're in the bikinis. | ||
| Right. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Same feminist organization. | ||
| And we're in this business and you can't do it. | ||
| And I told them, I said, if you're in the MMA business, I said, get out. | ||
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Because they all think like me. | |
| They just don't say it. | ||
| On the nice end. | ||
| Right? | ||
| On the nice end they think like you. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| On the dark end. | ||
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Oh, they go like, you know what I would do at this moment with a girl like that? | |
| That's how bad it is. | ||
| Did you ever see Derek Lewis' Instagram? | ||
| Derek Lewis has the most fucking hilarious Instagram. | ||
| He's really pushing it though, right? | ||
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He's pushing it. | |
| He pushes it as far as pushing it. | ||
| You see the shit that he did with Ronda Rousey? | ||
| After he knocked out Travis Brown. | ||
| After he knocked out Travis Brown. | ||
| I mean, he knocked out her boyfriend. | ||
| Or now her husband. | ||
| And he's got all these videos of him. | ||
| Oh, Mr. T like in Rocky? | ||
| He's doing that? | ||
| His face. | ||
| They put his face on someone else's body and Ronda's face on someone else's body. | ||
| It's like, he's fucking crazy. | ||
| Whoa. | ||
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Whoa. | |
| He's crazy. | ||
| He's funny though. | ||
| He's hilarious. | ||
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He's hilarious. | |
| I like it. | ||
| His Instagram page is fucking hilarious, but I'm always like, how long is it going to take for someone to find that page and just go over his archives and go, what in the fuck? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Like, you can't do this, man. | ||
| Nowadays, yeah. | ||
| Because obviously he's joking around. | ||
| He's a very funny guy. | ||
| Before you saw it or after. | ||
| Oh, Derek is fucking funny, man. | ||
| Who is he fighting next? | ||
| I don't know, but everything is good. | ||
| He's always posting ridiculous videos where people do stupid shit. | ||
| Like, if you just go to his... | ||
| It's almost... | ||
| Oh, does he have a... | ||
| What's going on with his hand? | ||
| What is it got on there? | ||
| Damn, that shit hurts. | ||
| I have a fourth metacarpal fracture. | ||
| Oh, February 21st. | ||
| All right, well, he ain't fighting anybody anytime soon. | ||
| Oh, they're digging in there. | ||
| What are they doing? | ||
| Oh, they're extracting? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah, they're pulling out the pus. | ||
| Get in there, son. | ||
| Pull that pus out. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| Yeah, they did it to me one time. | ||
| I was in Japan, and Dan Henderson stands next to me, was at the table eating, and he says, where's the heat coming from? | ||
| I go, what do you mean? | ||
| And he pulls with his arm, and my arm was infected, and it was streaming out heat. | ||
| And he goes, dude, you got staph infection, but this is really bad. | ||
| I'll do it when I'm home. | ||
| He says, no, no, no, you got to go to the hospital right now. | ||
| This is very bad. | ||
| I went to the hospital in Japan, They put it in a syringe, like this big giant syringe, they start pulling out stuff. | ||
| It was like the green goblet liquid, that green liquid. | ||
| Completely clear. | ||
| Not one little sliver of slime or whatever in it. | ||
| Completely clear. | ||
| Like the doctor was pulling it out and he goes... | ||
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He started talking to all the other doctors and they came running over. | |
| They said, what is that? | ||
| They pulled it out. | ||
| It was a whole thick syringe. | ||
| He filled up with green clear stuff. | ||
| Whoa. | ||
| Weird, right? | ||
| Very weird. | ||
| What'd they give you? | ||
| Some serious antibiotics? | ||
| Serious antibiotics, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Do you have to stay in Japan? | ||
| With Damon Perry, you remember when we did that show and I was laying on the bar and I was acting like I was drunk and everybody said, dude, that was unbelievable. | ||
| That was how sick I was. | ||
| So I acted like I was drunk and I was sweating, but I was from the real sickness. | ||
| I was literally between takes laying on the desk. | ||
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Wow. | |
| And we go, and we go, and I did the take, and then we fall back again. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Yeah, I was destroyed. | ||
| Did you fly home with that? | ||
| Yeah, but it was two days later. | ||
| I started feeling much better the next day after they gave me over. | ||
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Did they give you oral antibiotics or IV? Oral and IV, and my IV right away. | |
| In the hospital, yeah. | ||
| Damn, staph infection scares the shit out of me, man. | ||
| You can lose something. | ||
| You remember the staff from Kevin Randleman? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He had holes. | ||
| A hole in his armpit area. | ||
| Oh yeah, here, underneath. | ||
| Like a snuff box, you know, like the tobacco thing? | ||
| You could hide it in there. | ||
| You could literally push it in there. | ||
| You could see his muscles and all his tendons and everything in there. | ||
| It was fucking crazy. | ||
| Kevin Redelman's staph. | ||
| Yeah, he's got one of the most famous staph infections ever. | ||
| It's horrible. | ||
| Animal, this guy. | ||
| My friend Ari and I, Ari was taking jujitsu for a while. | ||
| We were playing pool, and I noticed him walking around the pool table. | ||
| He's limping. | ||
| And I go, what's going on with you, man? | ||
| He goes, I think I got a spider bite on my knee. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| God damn, that's crazy. | ||
| That is so crazy. | ||
| That's like systemic when it's that bad. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| When it's that deep in your body. | ||
| So I looked at Ari. | ||
| I go, what? | ||
| I go, you got a spider bite. | ||
| I go, let me see your knee. | ||
| And he pulls his pants leg up. | ||
| And I go, dude, you have staph infection. | ||
| Listen to me right now. | ||
| You got to go to the hospital immediately. | ||
| He goes, what? | ||
| It was a big deal. | ||
| I go, no, no, no. | ||
| This could kill you. | ||
| I go, you have a real bad staph infection. | ||
| It was in like a fucking big whitehead. | ||
| I was like, go to the hospital right now. | ||
| He's like, are you serious? | ||
| I unscrewed my cue. | ||
| I go, dude, we're done. | ||
| I go, you got to go to the hospital. | ||
| I'll take you. | ||
| You want to go to the hospital right now? | ||
| He went to the hospital right then and there, and they were like, holy shit, bud. | ||
| They hooked him up. | ||
| He got it again, I think, afterwards. | ||
| Sometimes it can relapse when you get it bad. | ||
| When you get it in your system and you don't completely get it out of your system, sometimes it can come back. | ||
| A friend of mine had this blood poisoning. | ||
| From a low kick it was all like there was fluids in it and this little thing like a pinky thick purple line started going up on his body like towards the heart oh yeah you got to see that leg I mean they went in there they stapled it close with like 34 of those staples over his whole thigh. | ||
| He's got this scar. | ||
| Crazy scar. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| From low kicks. | ||
| From low kicks. | ||
| That's nuts. | ||
| Didn't treat it. | ||
| Man. | ||
| Yeah, it just kept on working and something went wrong and becomes an infection. | ||
| Yeah, it starts clotting. | ||
| Don't have that. | ||
| You see how I did that? | ||
| Clotting? | ||
| I see. | ||
| I like that. | ||
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I like that. | |
| That's fast. | ||
| What do you think? | ||
| I need to ask you about some certain shit. | ||
| Like, what do you think about the Jon Jones situation? | ||
| Like with John Jones testing positive, but saying it was a tainted supplement. | ||
| What do you think about all that? | ||
| I think as a... | ||
| Okay, I'll go back all the way back when you could do pretty much anything you wanted, right? | ||
| Right. | ||
| I brought my own bread, own food, everything to Japan. | ||
| If I would go to a hall, I would bring my own water. | ||
| I wouldn't drink the water they had there. | ||
| I heard all the war stories and fighting in foreign countries that they might taint it or do something. | ||
| Make sure. | ||
| Every product that you take as a professional athlete is your responsibility. | ||
| You know, so once that happens, and I thought that tainted supplement wasn't the same tainted supplement as Joel Romero had. | ||
| I believe it was that same tainted, and they have the same manager? | ||
| So their manager didn't say, hey, wait a minute, Joel Romero, maybe you shouldn't take this because I don't know 100% here. | ||
| I'm just talking. | ||
| Anyway, even if that's not the case, as a manager, you would say, I think from now on, you should buy only products that are on a list and you don't do anything else anymore just to make sure because people, you know, where the smoke is fire. | ||
| That's what people think. | ||
| It's always like, unfortunately, I was very happy with Joel Romero when he brought a product. | ||
| I said, that's the first guy who actually does that. | ||
| They took the product, got it off the market because it was in there, and it was clear. | ||
| They said, okay, fine. | ||
| Tim Means did the same thing. | ||
| Tim Means tested positive. | ||
| And he found it also? | ||
| They found it on the shelf. | ||
| They did an independent test of it, and they said, yep, it's in this stuff. | ||
| That's a real common thing. | ||
| A lot of baseball players have tested positive for the exact same thing that John tested for. | ||
| Apparently it's in a bunch of different supplements, but you get it in trace elements, or trace amounts. | ||
| You're not getting big amounts, and a lot of it comes from They take the same vats in China, wherever they make that shit, and they'll make some steroids, and then they'll fucking clean it out, but do a shitty job of cleaning it out, and then they'll make some creatine in there. | ||
| Yeah, it's like the gluten-free products, you know? | ||
| Because sometimes they use a machine that has product with gluten in there, and then it's tainted. | ||
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It's like that. | |
| Yeah, it definitely can be. | ||
| It definitely can be. | ||
| You know, I've heard a bunch of crazy stories. | ||
| One of the craziest ones was they think that Cocaine sometimes they cut with creatine and creatine is often infected with this steroid that it's often tainted because, you know, you're getting cheap creatine from China and they use creatine to cut cocaine with. | ||
| I got a good idea. | ||
| Don't do cocaine if you're a fighter. | ||
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Wait a minute. | |
| That's just crazy. | ||
| Boss, you're just crazy. | ||
| That doesn't even make sense. | ||
| Don't do cocaine. | ||
| When can he come back? | ||
| When he come back? | ||
| Joe? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't think they've done his hearing yet. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| What a talent. | ||
| What a waste. | ||
| I know. | ||
| They did the California hearing, but I think the Nevada State Athletic Commission and USADA, I think that's in April sometime. | ||
| I think it's this month. | ||
| I really hope we're going to see him soon. | ||
| I really hope he turns his life around. | ||
| He's the best. | ||
| Yeah, he's the best. | ||
| I mean, the impact that he can have on kids and on everything. | ||
| If he trains, fights four more years. | ||
| Just beat everybody. | ||
| And then go out. | ||
| I think he can still do it, too. | ||
| I think he can still come back and maybe, you know, look, it's clear, one thing is clear from his test, is that whatever he took was a tiny trace amount, and it must have been accidental, must have been. | ||
| This is according to Jeff Nowitzki, because if you look at right before that test, he tests negative, he tests positive for the tiniest amount, and then he tests negative again right afterwards. | ||
| Yeah, you see. | ||
| It's a tiny, tiny amount, so it has to be an accident, and it definitely didn't have any performance-enhancing benefit. | ||
| The levels that he took, they're talking about trace amounts. | ||
| But you see, this is where comes in play what he did before, and that's why he's getting penalized now, you see? | ||
| So you're always responsible for your actions. | ||
| That's what's happening now. | ||
| I mean, it cost him his title, too, which is so crazy. | ||
| I know, but you know, if somebody has a chance to do it back, what a comeback that would be. | ||
| I think he can do it. | ||
| Take it 100%. | ||
| I mean, you think about his victory over Daniel Cormier, the way he did it. | ||
| That left high kick and then puts it out on the ground. | ||
| The way he set it up. | ||
| The entire fight he was setting it up. | ||
| And I think that when he came back before the last break, that they said, okay, now he can let it fly. | ||
| I think you set him up enough. | ||
| I love that, man. | ||
| Making a pattern and then breaking the pattern. | ||
| I love that style of fighting. | ||
| He's such a talent. | ||
| But isn't it funny how some of those guys that are so talented are also so self-destructive? | ||
| It's so common. | ||
| It's because, but it's not only that. | ||
| It's talented, and because they're talented, it propels them up in the limelight, and suddenly they become somebody. | ||
| And it's like I said with Conor, you got all the yeas, nobody says no to you. | ||
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| And if you have that constantly, 24-7 around you, yeah, you start becoming, you think you're God. | ||
| You can start doing things that other people can't, and you can! | ||
| That's the worst part. | ||
| I mean, that he didn't go to jail? | ||
| Think about it, what he did. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Hitting the woman, and then the drugs out of the car, and the woman was pregnant and she was injured. | ||
| I mean, that's a serious thing. | ||
| A normal person would have been in jail. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And with the money situation and how he changed suddenly with Cormier when they were filming them with the interview and they kept it rolling and they didn't know they were rolling. | ||
| And he starts, hey, how much money do you have? | ||
| I got so much more money. | ||
| I got this. | ||
| I got this. | ||
| And I go, dude, what are you doing? | ||
| It's a weird thing to say. | ||
| But then again, you think he was the youngest champion also. | ||
| Yeah, ever. | ||
| Right? | ||
| I mean, the guy is young. | ||
| I mean, I was an idiot. | ||
| I was an idiot when I started at 28. I was still a grown up. | ||
| I was completely crazy. | ||
| So that's why I never blame people because I know I was a complete idiot. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, you have a great perspective on it because of that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, you've been there. | ||
| You know what it's like. | ||
| And you were a fucking wild man and now you're very calm except for when you occasionally punch a table. | ||
| Yeah, 13 hours is too long for a commercial shoot. | ||
| Don't do that. | ||
| I know what that's like, though. | ||
| They keep on wanting you to do it again. | ||
| You get angry, like, fuck. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, it's an ego thing, too, because they said it's fine, but because they said it would be great. | ||
| You know, now it's in my head. | ||
| I go, I just want to do it for them, so I don't feel as bad as I go away, man. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| It's just pushing it. | ||
| It's just saying no a little sooner. | ||
| That's the trick. | ||
| Do you miss Inside MMA? Yeah, I do. | ||
| I never, and I told this always, when I had a show, there's never been a show. | ||
| Imagine today was Friday, I had to film. | ||
| Never ever I thought, I wish I could stay home tonight. | ||
| I always wanted to go and meet whoever was there. | ||
| I loved that show. | ||
| It was great. | ||
| You saw the new talent. | ||
| That's where Conor McGregor comes in. | ||
| He was just starting and interviewing him. | ||
| It's great. | ||
| And then you see the old guys. | ||
| Don Fry and Coleman. | ||
| It was great. | ||
| It was a fun show. | ||
| What happened with it? | ||
| I think just numbers. | ||
| I think nowadays with everything streaming, there is no breaking news for us. | ||
| So it has to happen on Friday. | ||
| Someone should come along and reboot it and give you a show and just do it online where anybody can get a hold of it. | ||
| Do it on YouTube. | ||
| Yeah, but then also do it every day. | ||
| You can't compete with a show. | ||
| You can because that's happening now. | ||
| So you need to show a live show. | ||
| Like a podcast, but you need to do it every day. | ||
| Or when there's breaking news. | ||
| Yeah, well, every day is... | ||
| I mean, fuck, man. | ||
| If you did it every day, it would just take off if somebody just figured out how to do it and got you into a studio. | ||
| Yeah, but you know what? | ||
| We're waiting, first of all, for the Kevin Can Wait. | ||
| If that goes to the third season, I'm going to have to have that. | ||
| Then I got 11 shows with the Professional Fighters League. | ||
| I just started Karate Combat. | ||
| You're busy. | ||
| I'm good. | ||
| I would like to keep the free time free. | ||
| Are you a regular on Kevin Can Wait? | ||
| Yeah, well, I'm a regular on the show, but not a regular of the show. | ||
| That would be, if this goes to a third season, I become the cast pamper. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| Then it will be there. | ||
| What do you play on the show? | ||
| His neighbor. | ||
| Like last year, I think 16 or 17 episodes. | ||
| Oh, that's awesome. | ||
| Yeah, the crazy guy, Rutger from Holland. | ||
| You know, he's not the smartest guy, not the sharpest knife in the drawer. | ||
| Very funny. | ||
| That's fucking great. | ||
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| That's so cool that Kevin did that. | ||
| That's very cool. | ||
| And it happened because once Inside MMA stopped, he said, now you can finally do an appearance on a show. | ||
| Because they were filmed Friday nights in front of a live audience. | ||
| So I could never be on a show. | ||
| So I did a guest appearance. | ||
| The writers liked it. | ||
| They got me back. | ||
| And then I did four shows the first season at the end. | ||
| And then he called me and said, dude, they love you. | ||
| They want you for next year. | ||
| So I go, that's awesome. | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| I said this 21 years ago, I believe against George Groves, when he interviewed me for SureDoc, what's just started SureDoc, 21 years ago. | ||
| And my dream job, he asked me about. | ||
| And long story short, my dream job would be to work in an American sitcom, I said. | ||
| And he said, you don't want to fight? | ||
| I said, no, I did all that. | ||
| I just want to make people laugh. | ||
| Look at you there. | ||
| Wow, that's hilarious. | ||
| Oh, it's so funny. | ||
| What a life that is, man. | ||
| A sitcom. | ||
| It's fun. | ||
| Everybody's happy. | ||
| Yeah, it's such a good time. | ||
| I did that shit for five years. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's interesting. | ||
| What happened with... | ||
| They were going to reboot it? | ||
| What was it? | ||
| Fear Factor? | ||
| They did reboot it with Ludacris. | ||
| Oh, so they didn't... | ||
| No, I wasn't going to do it. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| You're too busy, too, right? | ||
| You're all over the place. | ||
| I don't want... | ||
| Almost got into a fight. | ||
| Remember that? | ||
| Oh, on Fairfax? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Some silly guy. | ||
| Poor fuck. | ||
| Yeah, crazy people. | ||
| Yeah, that's the problem with a reality show, is you're dealing with all these wacky people that are trying to get famous, whereas you're on a sitcom, you're dealing with the other people that you're working with on a daily basis. | ||
| When I was on news radio, we were like a weird little dysfunctional family. | ||
| That's what happens in those sitcom sets. | ||
| You get very close to each other. | ||
| It's a great job, man. | ||
| It really is. | ||
| It's a great job if it's funny. | ||
| I'm laughing the whole time. | ||
| If people would have a camera on me, if I'm laying in bed going over the script, I didn't realize that almost everything they say is funny. | ||
| You don't catch that when you're watching. | ||
| But that's why the reruns are so good. | ||
| Every time you see new jokes, but pretty much everything is tied in together. | ||
| Every single line, you go, my God, this comes back from... | ||
| That scene before, it's all tied in. | ||
| Well, people don't realize what a good stand-up comedian Kevin is, too. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He's a very good writer. | ||
| He's a very, very good writer. | ||
| Very funny guy. | ||
| Yeah, a lot of fun. | ||
| He just doesn't have enough stand-up specials out where people don't appreciate how good he really is. | ||
| Yeah, he's going to do for the Netflix now. | ||
| Netflix doing the show now. | ||
| I'm happy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think you already filmed it. | ||
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Did you already film it? | |
| I think so, too. | ||
| I think so, too. | ||
| I went to a few because once we were there, he started going to some... | ||
| Stand-up places, you know to start practicing because he was out for a little bit. | ||
| Yeah, and an album we started out together We have the same manager and I got him hooked up with my manager. | ||
| Yeah back in like fucking 1993 or some shit I don't even remember what year it was when Kevin and I were buddies in New York I remember you used roommates, right? | ||
| Also, we never lived together, but we were just like We were friends. | ||
| We were both like in our early, early 20s. | ||
| We were just starting out. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He told me that he used to watch Pancras with you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that's how he knew me. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so when I came to America, I had this management right away calling to say, hey, he wants to meet you. | ||
| So that was cool. | ||
| That is cool. | ||
| Yeah, Kevin used to watch all that shit with me. | ||
| We used to watch Pancrase and the early K1 fights and everything, man. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Kevin is a fucking serious martial artist, too. | ||
| People have no clue. | ||
| People don't realize that. | ||
| He get hit, man. | ||
| He's got fucking power. | ||
| This is a cool thing. | ||
| When we're shooting, here comes the boom. | ||
| He, at the end, with Krzysztof Suszynski, when he lifts him up for the armbar, right? | ||
| So the scene is coming, and they bring in a crane with a cable, because it needs to be controlled, of course, for the film. | ||
| So he's asking, he says, oh, by the way, can I have your attention? | ||
| So all these extras are there. | ||
| And he says, Krzysztof, lay down. | ||
| So Krzysztof puts him in an armbar. | ||
| He lifts Christoph up above his head, puts him back, lifts him up above his head, brings him back, does it three times in a row. | ||
| He says, did you see that? | ||
| I just want to bring it out there so people can see because now the cable comes in, otherwise everybody says that I can't do it. | ||
| And everybody was like, what? | ||
| He just did that. | ||
| He just did it three times in a row. | ||
| He's a gorilla. | ||
| And his speed... | ||
| And his punches, if you see him, that's not sped up on here comes the boom. | ||
| I mean, the way he's hitting, what he's doing. | ||
| The very first time I was training him, I remember coming home and telling my, she says, and I said, man, he's a big guy, but dude, he listens to every little thing I say, and he will do it immediately. | ||
| I mean, his mind-body connection is really good. | ||
| It is really good. | ||
| Hand-eye coordination as well. | ||
| He's a really good golfer, too. | ||
| Yeah, he's a good dude. | ||
| I've known that guy forever. | ||
| All right, boss. | ||
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Hi! | |
| I think we should wrap this up. | ||
| So karate.com if anybody wants to go. | ||
| Karate Combat. | ||
| And you said April 26th in Miami. | ||
| In Miami. | ||
| And you could stream it live on karate.com. | ||
| For free. | ||
| Give them your email address. | ||
| Boom. | ||
| And they hook it up. | ||
| And it should be fun. | ||
| And these guys, where are the athletes coming from? | ||
| All over the world, that's the greatest thing. | ||
| And if you have any, you know, contact these people, you know, because they listen to the fans. | ||
| So if you say, hey, man, please, are you thinking about the low kicks? | ||
| I heard it on Joe Rogan that we're talking about, you know, and maybe watch a few fights and see what you think. | ||
| And once you think, hey, yeah, it should be added, start emailing them. | ||
| Just talk about it, because they throw it in the group, they listen to the people, and then let's see what happens. | ||
| Well, I'm seeing a lot of six-packs, so I'm very impressed already. | ||
| They look good. | ||
| Boss Rooten, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| Thank you, sir. | ||
| Always a pleasure, my brother. | ||
| Godspeed. | ||
| Godspeed to you as well. |
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