Judging Freedom - Judge Andrew Napolitano - Phil Giraldi : AIPAC’s Hatred.

All Episodes

Previous Next

Sept. 17, 2025 - Judging Freedom - Judge Andrew Napolitano

26:14

Phil Giraldi : AIPAC’s Hatred.

Large

Audio Only |

Scroll

Time	Text
	Hi everyone, Judge Andrew Napolitano here for judging freedom.
	Today is Wednesday, uh September 17th, 2025.
	Phil Giraldi will be with us in a moment on APAC's hatred and how they manifest it.
	But first, this.
	We all know how devastating war is.
	Lives lost, communities destroyed, but war can also threaten your financial freedom.
	That's where America's heading.
	Our growing involvement in global conflicts.
	It means more spending, more debt, and a weaker dollar.
	That's a direct hit to your wallet.
	So here are three things to keep your eyes on: exploding debt, declining dollar, rising prices of gold and silver.
	These things are already happening.
	Goldman Sachs predicts gold could hit forty-five hundred dollars an ounce by 2026.
	Why?
	Because central banks and smart investors are buying gold hand over fist.
	They know what's coming and they're hedging against it.
	Currency collapse, inflation, and market volatility.
	Gold has been a trusted store of value for thousands of years, and today we need that protection more than ever.
	Call Lear Capital now at 800511 4620 or visit LearJudgeNAP.com.
	No one is going to protect your wealth for you.
	You need to do it yourself.
	And now is the time.
	Bill Giraldi, always a pleasure, my dear friend.
	No matter how gloomy the world is and what we have to talk about, thank you for your time.
	Thank you for accommodating my schedule.
	Why is it that there has been only a lip service and tepid at that response to the uh US financed and approved and Israeli perpetrated uh attack on a residential neighborhood in Doha Qatar?
	Yeah, that's an interesting question.
	It's uh that as you point out, the response has been tepid.
	Now, the to a large extent we expect from the mainstream media that every time Israel does something that is very as as the our president would put it, very bad public relations or PR, every time they do that, they downplay the story.
	And it's it's quite astonishing how to the extent which this takes place in the in the mainstream media like the New York Times, Washington Post, uh Los Angeles Times, uh, Chicago Tribune, they all have the same kind of phobia.
	But of course, uh a lot of these uh newspapers are either owned or owned in part or have a heavily staffing that is uh Zionist.
	And uh as a result, they are doing a cover-up on what is going on.
	I think that's a large uh extent to what it is, but the fact is we also get the same impact within the U.S. government, which of course was very tepid in its response to uh what happened in Doha, which uh of course is a close U.S. ally, in fact, unlike Israel, and that it houses a uh an airbase with 10,000 U.S. uh airmen there.
	So this is uh ridiculous.
	We just see this over and over again.
	Let's not publish a story that is critical of Israel, and you have all of the Israel lobby lined up behind that, making sure everybody toes the line.
	But but what about the Arab resistance?
	What about the Turks?
	What about the Egyptians?
	What about the Jordanians?
	Is there no appetite to teach the Israelis a lesson that they can't do this with impunity just because the Americans are paying the bill?
	Well, the question becomes what what could they do?
	Uh uh Israel definitely has the uh the upper hand in terms of uh military capabilities.
	When you're talking about Jordan, you're talking about Lebanon, you're talking about Syria.
	The Turks have a capability, but the Turks, of course, are separated uh by a considerable amount of land from uh Israel itself.
	Uh they are a NATO member, and they uh also would uh uh be somewhat uh well Erdogan, their their uh prime minister has been very critical of Israel, but the and he's cut off uh he's boycotted uh uh trade with them and other and done other things.
	But the fact is uh to go to war with them is a is another thing altogether, and I think the Erdogan is a little bit nervous about that rightly, uh, because we as we all know, Israel is a nuclear power.
	Um what did you think of uh Netanyahu uh going on national uh television before they caught the uh guy that pulled the trigger and the uh murder of Charlie Kirk and denying that the Israelis murdered Charlie?
	Well, to me, that was a confession that they did it.
	Um they uh I my only surprise is he didn't go on the air before the guy, poor guy got killed, uh, which would have been uh why not?
	He's done everything else, he's killed everyone else.
	He's uh he's killed maybe uh 600,000 Palestinians in Gaza.
	So what what's what's to stop from killing another American?
	He's killed Americans before.
	Uh this guy's a monster.
	And uh all it did to me was confirm that there is a there are perhaps cover stories about who did the killing.
	I'm not convinced that this uh kid that they finally caught uh acted alone.
	There certainly are a lot of discrepancies in the account and discrepancies in the uh the videos uh about the rifle and other things.
	Interesting.
	Uh when Netanyahu does something like uh attack a civilian infrastructure and kills civilians, but not the intended targets.
	Is there political fallout for him at home?
	I think there probably I'm I'm not an expert by any means on that, but I would think there is uh fallout because it would be seen, I would think, by many Israelis as a a failed mission.
	Uh just like to a certain extent the attack on Iran uh was a failure both by Israel and the United States, and the Iranian response was more robust than anybody expected.
	So this uh this uh is dampening the mood, I think, in Israel for extending these conflicts, uh, but there seems to be a high percentage, uh, again, approaching 80 to 90 percent of the the public that is fully supportive of massacring uh uh two and a half million uh Palestinians in Gaza and a couple million more on the West Bank.
	How um why do you think APAC threatened Charlie Kirk?
	Now, Bill uh Ackman, who's the major donor and at whose home the alleged threats took place, has denied that there were threats, and of course, and so it was very uh very amicable.
	But why did APAC threaten him?
	First, they tried to bribe him.
	One report said 150 million dollars, and he declined to take any of their money, and then they tried to intimidate him, and he told people uh shortly before he was murdered that he was afraid for his safety and he couldn't stand Netanyahu, who we felt was behind all this.
	Yeah, the the offer of the money apparently came uh directly from Netanyahu.
	That's not in dispute, I don't think.
	Uh and of course, APAC and the rest of the Israel lobby uh would be on on top of uh Kirk because uh basically he's got a big audience, And he was clearly moving in a direction where he was objecting to some of the things.
	And this is kind of where I and a lot of other critics of what uh is going on there are about, which is that this brings the United States as an accomplice and player into these disastrous policies and these and these uh killing uh fields that uh Netanyahu delights in.
	So uh Kirk was coming around to that point of view, he good Christian, he was uh apparently preparing to uh convert to Catholicism and get away from the the more harsh uh Protestant groups that tend to support uh Israel uh no matter what Israel does based on uh what they claim to be in the Bible.
	So you're talking about the uh Ted Cruz uh Mike Huckabee uh folks.
	Yeah, Huckabee and uh Cotton and uh yeah, those people they uh they basically are the ones in the government that uh are on that on board.
	Well, so is uh uh our uh speaker of the House.
	Yes, and then they the Secretary of Defense as well.
	Yeah, he was just over in Israel, and Israel just had a uh had a visitation of a group of 20 plus congressmen from uh the Democrats and 20 plus from the Republicans, and more recently, 250 American politicians,
	five each from the 50 states, all this stuff is paid for by APAC and these other groups, and they get away with it, they do it illegally uh because we have in the United States what they call the uh foreign agents registration act, where any group acting uh in the interests of a foreign government has to register, they have to be transparent in terms of their finances, and guess what?
	They cannot engage in US politics, and why is it why isn't uh APAC uh indicted for violating Farah?
	You go to jail for this.
	Yeah, it's because uh the United States government of people like Donald Trump and uh his predecessors are terrified of the Israel lobby, and this is the the way the system works.
	Um dangerous to the United States of America is its subservience to Israel.
	It is credibly critically dangerous because it leads the United States into taking initiatives in support of Israel, like we've seen in recently in recent months since Trump has been around.
	We've seen this in Syria, we've seen this in uh Lebanon, we've seen this certainly in Gaza and Spain's.
	Uh we've also seen it now in uh Qatar, we've seen it in uh Iran.
	The United States is doing things that are not in the interests of the American people or in the interests of the American state.
	This is not what the United States was created for, to go around the world and engage in illegal and uh and worse than that actions on behalf of a tiny little state that unfortunately has a lot of money that it's been able to corrupt our political system and corrupt our politicians, and this is the reality of it.
	Now what can we do about it, Phil?
	Well, we can enforce Farah, that would be a starter, and we could we could uh that's the federal that's the uh foreign agent registration act.
	Yeah, and that uh that would that would require them to register, require them to report their actions, require them when they go over and have meetings with the Israeli embassy people and Mossad, and require them not to get involved in U.S. politics, which they do all the time.
	So it would stop them from doing all these things.
	And beyond that, I would like to see a government that when Israel behaves badly, which it does Almost all the time, uh, would denounce them and treat them the way we would treat any other country that would be carrying out genocides, creating war crimes, and and doing all and corrupting our own politics.
	Is there a relationship between APAC and the Central Intelligence Agency?
	Not as far as I know, but you know, I've been out of the uh government for some time, and whether this has developed back in my time, I'll be perfectly frank with you.
	People like me who were field officers, case officers who worked overseas, we we despised the Israelis.
	They were always around, they were always coming around and trying to get favors, they were always in your face, and uh they were always lying through the teeth about what their own knowledge and experience were.
	So those of us in the field couldn't stand them.
	And uh there were people apparently at headquarters with whom I had no contact, uh, who were put in place by the politicians to represent Israeli interests, but I I don't really know to what that has how that has continued.
	Ray McGovern has dropped comments a couple times saying that uh the people who work on the Middle East uh have a large hunk of Zionists uh in their staff.
	Uh, but I don't know that for a fact.
	Do um do Israeli citizens receive free health care and uh higher education?
	Yes, and we pay for it.
	Why?
	Why should we pay for it?
	Why should we pay for their defense bills if they give away things that we don't give away here?
	I'm not in favor of the government giving away health care would be a disaster, but but uh what why why should we be funding this?
	We'd we fund it because the uh the Israel lobby has succeeded in corrupting our system to such an extent that they own the politicians, uh or most of them.
	There are a few good people, Tom Massey, uh and and others, but the the fact is that uh when a good politician arises and starts to criticize Israel, Israel raises a ton of money, or the lobby raises a ton of money to get rid of them.
	They got rid of uh two black congressmen in the last round of of voting, and they they spent 25 million dollars was a record to get rid of these two guys and put up replacements for them.
	And they talk about Tom Massey, they uh I've heard comments from some of them that they're willing to spend a hundred million dollars to get rid of them.
	That's the kind of cash they have.
	They gave Donald Trump a hundred million, uh the casino people in Las Vegas, uh Israelis, uh gave Donald Trump a hundred million dollars to make sure he uh did the right things once he got in office, which he emphatically has done.
	How does the average middle class American citizen benefit from our subservience to the state of Israel?
	The average American, and not to mention uh unaverage Americans get nothing out of it.
	Uh this is the only ones who uh conceivably, as a collective or as a group who benefit from it, are the politicians.
	Uh Joe Biden got something like two million dollars from the Israel lobby.
	Um I think Cruz uh is in the 500,000 dollar range.
	Um and and of course, I've just spoken about Trump.
	We're talking about um multiples of millions of dollars that have accrued to Trump uh as a result of um his hard line on Israel.
	You're talking about money going to campaigns, you're not talking about money going personally to these presidents, are you?
	Well, sometimes this money is fungible.
	Uh if you if you've got the money in your campaign and you have a certain freedom of how you spend it, um, well, there you go.
	I mean, uh I I would uh say these people personally benefit, and if they are uh go out of politics, uh they they find that there are incentives out there for well-paid employment.
	Uh So we see that too.
	Have the Zionists ever threatened you the way they did uh Charlie Kirk.
	Uh I've been threatened a number of times.
	They've never kind of couched it in terms of coming from a Zionist source.
	It's just usually well, in my older days, it was that because I was a uh converted peacnik, which a lot of people don't like.
	And uh and when I got into what was going on in the Middle East in more detail, I've had specific threats in terms of my views on the state of Israel and how the United States should uh basically cut it off from its current stance in support of it.
	I guess this is not going to change unless some series of events I can't even predict what they could be.
	I can't even hypothesize about what they could be changed mind, or a Thomas Massey-like person, thinking like Congressman Massey, uh gets elected uh to the White House.
	Well, I I would rather suspect that change is coming.
	Uh, because the um uh the as you well know, the uh percentage of Americans who are now supporters of Israel uh is down low and sinking.
	And uh this means that uh this could well become an electoral issue, and uh the Americans uh public could just become finally fed up with what is going on, and uh basically this could have an impact in terms of who exactly is elected to Congress or elected uh to the House or to the Senate, and it could have an impact on the president.
	I I really I honestly think that somebody would uh surface uh like Massey did.
	Uh Massey was the one who reported that uh virtually everyone in the Republican Party in in Congress uh had a minder, uh an APAC uh or Israel lobby designated minder among their staffs, and these people would keep an eye on them in terms of Israel issues.
	And if they weren't doing the right thing by Israel, they would report this back to APAC and others who would start putting pressure on them.
	So this is the kind of political system we've come up with.
	And if if the American public knew more about this, I think the American public might well respond by at least demanding someone who's a uh several measures more moderate on the issue of Israel than what we've seen so far.
	You're actually being very charitable by calling these people minders, Congressman Massey called them babysitters.
	That's right.
	That is right.
	He's very uh colorful in his uh Kentucky uh verbiage.
	He's not all Kentuckian, he graduated at the top of his class at uh Massachusetts Institute of Technology.
	You're telling about a very smart uh person here, extremely well read and uh and educated.
	But realistically speaking, it would be uh bring about a sea change or a sea change in American thinking would be necessary.
	To your point, you're probably not following because you uh you don't live here, the uh race for mayor of New York, but an independent candidate who's the former governor, former mucky muck in the Democratic Party, Andrew uh Cuomo, uh announced two days ago that he's rethinking his support for Israel in New York City, making this announcement, believing it will help him uh electorally.
	He's running against a Democrat who says if Netanyahu lands at uh LaGuardia or JFK airports, he'll be arrested by the NYPD and shipped to the ICC in Belgium.
	Well, I wish him well, the the latter one.
	Um I would like to see Netanyahu when he goes to the UN next week.
	Um snatched off the street by the uh immigration and customs uh enforcers.
	Yeah.
	Well, you know, uh Rudy Giuliani, um, this was for show, but he did it, had uh Yasser Arafat arrested from in the middle of an opera where he was viewing an opera at the Metropolitan uh opera house and put them on a plane and shipped him back to uh Palestine.
	Yeah.
	Well, uh well, uh Netanyahu is going to be meeting with our president again uh uh the day before, I believe uh he's gonna appear at the UN.
	So uh, you know, there's gonna there are more shenanigans.
	These these are where the cover stories are concocted.
	This is how the system works.
	Why is uh Marco Rubio uh over in you know at the whaling wall again?
	Uh what uh uh I I'm gonna suggest uh I think uh in my next article that uh we the next when Nanyahu shows up um in Washington next week, we should make him go to the National Cathedral or to the uh Roman Catholic Basilica and uh sit there for a service before anybody will talk to him.
	I don't think you'll see that happening.
	No.
	But but the American politicians all go to the whaling wall.
	There's a picture, the same picture was on the front page of the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal of Rubio and Netanyahu uh at the uh whaling wall, the two of them looking glum, serious, pensive, and religious.
	Well, Rubio will get his instructions from uh from his Lord and Master, and he'll come back and he'll give them to uh to uh Trump, but with Trump, he'll have to explain it three times in simple words, and Trump will still be confused.
	But that's uh that's the way our system has come around to be, and that's why it's depressing to get up in the morgan morning morning these days.
	Have you ever encountered this uh congressman from Florida?
	I can't imagine you have.
	If you do, I want to be there, and I want our cameras there.
	Who wears the IDF uniform on the floor of the House of Representatives.
	Brian Mast.
	Brian Mast.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I no, I haven't personally encountered him, but uh Florida also has uh Randy Fine, who has uh uh spoken up about uh exterminating all the Palestinians.
	So, you know, we've got we've got some fine congressmen that uh really uh are decent human beings, and um we should be proud of them.
	Randy Fine has a great nemesis in our dear friend and colleague.
	In fact, he's terrified of him, Max Blumenthal.
	Yeah, that's right.
	You know, uh Congressman Fine is a little on the plump side, in fact, quite a bit.
	And when Max uh showed up with a camera and a microphone in hand, he said Congressman Fine for the first time in his adult life ran.
	Oh well.
	Thank you for a sense of humor.
	Thomas Moore cracked jokes with his executioner, believing that as much as he did in a sense of humor.
	You and I don't think we're about to be executed, but we do have a sense of humor over these very, very glum, glum things, Phil.
	Thank you for monitoring all of this for us the way you do, my dear friend.
	Well, if Mr. Rubio has his way, they he might be confiscating our passports because we uh we uh go on social media and uh and criticize Israel.
	So I think that Congressman Mast, and if I'm wrong, if I'm wrong, I will correct myself on air, but I believe Congressman Mast has introduced legislation to that effect.
	Yeah, that's right.
	Yeah, exactly.
	So this is well, thank you, Phil Geraldi.
	A pleasure, my friend, no matter what we're talking about.
	All the best to you.
	We'll see you again next week.
	Okay, thank you very much for seeing you then.
	Of course.

▲