Sept. 13, 2025 - Judging Freedom - Judge Andrew Napolitano
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[SPECIAL] Prof. Jeffrey Sachs : How Israel Blackmails Washington.
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Hi everyone, Judge Andrew Napolitano here for judging freedom.
Today is Wednesday, September 10th, 2025.
Professor Jeffrey Sachs is here on just how the Israelis blackmail Washington.
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Professor Sachs, welcome here, uh my dear friend.
Thank you for accommodating my schedule.
Before we get to Israeli blackmail of Washington to your other field of expertise, which is international economics, of course, how significant have uh the week's meetings been for the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, the Eastern Economic Forum, and BRICS.
How profound is that economic uh gathering thumbing its nose at the West.
Basically, uh we should understand that uh the United States now is about 14% of the world economy.
Uh economists measure this by uh the uh gross domestic product, and uh we use uh something called purchasing power parity to adjust the GDPs of different countries of the world to get a scaling.
And uh the US is about 14% of the world economy.
China at this point is about 19%.
It's a larger economy.
Not shocking because China has more than four times the US population.
So when the BRICS get together, uh this means uh uh China, uh India, Brazil, Russia, South Africa, and a number of other countries not quite so large.
We're talking about uh more than 40 percent of the world GDP.
We're talking about a grouping that is larger than the so-called G7 countries, which are the countries in the US alliance, the US, Canada, uh, United Kingdom, uh France, uh, uh, Germany, Italy, and Japan.
Uh in other words, the BRICS countries uh that uh this year have the presidency with Brazil are larger, significantly larger than the G7 in economic weight.
When we talk about the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, it's a slightly different grouping because it's basically an Asia group, not a global group, but it also includes uh Russia, China, India, Central Asian countries, uh, Belarus, uh, and uh when you add Jeff.
Indonesia, uh yes, uh part of the uh SCO.
Uh Yes, I think so.
And pardon me for uh not being absolutely sure.
Indonesia, uh President Prabhupada was going to go, uh, ended up going to uh one of the events in Beijing.
So I I think that that's right.
Um and Indonesia, by the way, uh is a uh huge uh country, a huge uh part of uh the Southeast Asian economy, almost half that population.
Uh with the SEO, uh, which is basically this Asian group, this is also more than 40% of the world population, uh almost half of the world population.
And not only is the share of either the Shanghai cooperation organization or the BRICS, where Indonesia certainly is a member, um, not only uh are those uh populous and uh substantial fraction of the world output, but they're also the fast growing part of the world economy.
There are they are poorer per person, but being poorer also means that they have more headroom for fast growth.
They're catching up, in other words, with the income levels of the United States and Europe.
And so they are a large part of the world, they are the fast growing part of the world, they're actually the high saving part of the world, also.
In other words, of that part of your annual output, what do you put aside for investment in the future?
In China, it's more than 40 percent of the annual output that's put aside, and China sometimes uh reached more than 50 percent of its annual output that it put aside in investments in fast rail and long distance power transmission and uh conversion to electric vehicles and so forth.
In the United States, we're barely saving right now, uh around 15% of our output, but even that is mostly depreciation now.
In other words, it's mostly saving just to make up what is wearing out or depreciating each slow growing and low saving part of the world, these other groupings are a fast growing and high saving and investment part of the world,
and this is coming as a huge shock to the egos and the psyches of the Western leaders who think this is all perfidious and evil and uh how can this be?
Uh and Donald Trump uh sits there giving his orders to each of these countries, Brazil, you must change your judicial process, and Russia, of course, uh you have to uh stop your war in the next 10 days.
Uh and India, we're going to punish you for buying Russian oil, and China, the list is too long, even to mention.
And they look and say, well, uh he's not our boss, he's not our emperor.
And uh then they say, no, thank you.
And then the United States really gets upset, and Mr. Peter Navarro goes out and says these are despicable vampire economies, and adds to the venom.
And these places, which are billions of people are looking on at the United States and saying, that's a rather intemperate way to act.
You told us you were a partner.
You told us uh you were that we were together in this.
Uh and so this dynamic that's underway right now, where the US is making demands of more populous, Larger economies and demands that are absolutely weird and arbitrary and hypocritical, one after the other, it's just not playing well.
Not at all.
It's not strengthening America.
It's not getting other countries to bend to our will.
It is accelerating their view that, well, the U.S. is an unstable, rude, intemperate, uh, unreliable, untrustworthy place.
Maybe we should get together ourselves and have a calmer, more stable relationship among ourselves.
I guess the timing of the 50% tariffs on uh India from the Western perspective couldn't have been worse.
They were shocked, by the way, because uh our security.
Let me just stop you for a minute so that you and and uh the viewers know what we're watching.
France is paralyzed uh as we speak by a massive strike, which started in Paris and apparently uh is growing or has grown uh throughout the day uh in response to the now ex-prime minister's uh budget cuts and the collapse of his government.
Uh people are not working, not eating, well, they're eating, but they're not consuming, they're not going to businesses in an effort to uh shut down the government.
Another example of the collapse of uh of Europe, but back to the significance of Trump's ill-timed uh and poorly thought out tariffs on India.
But it's it's very relevant uh this scene from Paris uh because uh Paris is in a big debt crisis uh and uh the budget is out of control, and the debt has reached 114% of GDP, and in the United States it's only reached 100% of GDP, and Britain is in a deep crisis.
And the German chancellor tells his people we have to arm militarily because and we're gonna have to cut our uh social uh spending uh because of that.
Uh, in other words, the demands are coming from a Western world, if I could call it that, that is overstretched, that has is poorly managed, uh, where the politicians one after another, starting with Donald Trump with an approval rating of about 38% and a disapproval rating more than 50%,
and uh uh uh Macron in uh France with an approval rating under 20%, actually, uh, with the Starmer in the UK with an approval rating, I think of uh maybe the low 20s uh with the Merz uh in Germany, the Chancellor's approval rating plummeting as well.
The West is making demands of the rest of the world, but it can't even manage its own society, its own social issues, its own political stability right now, and yet it's so used to bossing the rest of the world around that it continues to do so, even though we have the question.
Will the U.S. government remain open uh by the end of the month?
Uh but no, Trump is uh off uh making his demands.
He said yesterday uh vis-a-vis India, he told the Europeans you should put a hundred percent tariffs on India and China uh on because they're importing oil from Russia.
So more demands on the rest of the world, which of course uh all of them completely brushed aside, but which just makes the U.S. even more absurd in the eyes of these other countries, and with instability rising throughout Europe.
We should get our house under control, we should end these wars, uh, we should uh stop the crazy wars of uh of uh Israel and uh start attending to some of our real problems right at home.
Professor Sachs, what is your take on yesterday's Israeli and U.S. supported attack on Doha?
Illegal, reckless, uh, profoundly destabilizing.
Again, this is just like the attack on Iran a few weeks ago, where the attack was to kill the negotiators of ongoing negotiations.
Honestly, Israel can yell Hamas all at once.
Who they tried to kill yesterday were the people negotiating the ceasefire.
Israel doesn't want a ceasefire.
It wants to kill as many Palestinians as it can or ethnically cleanse them or crush them one way or another.
It doesn't want a ceasefire.
That's why they bombed Doha, tried to kill the negotiators, and ordered their troops into Gaza City all on the same day, with hundreds of thousands of Palestinians clinging to their lives right now, now facing another onslaught.
This is a murder machine.
This is not a state of law.
And by the way, Trump said he didn't even know about it for something that's been prepared, obviously, for many, many weeks.
And it's quite possible he doesn't know about it, because it's quite possible that he's basically the figurehead, and that the Mossad and the CIA certainly knew about it.
But maybe they didn't happen to mention it to the president until the last moment.
This is absolutely possible in our system.
How is it that you have referred to the dominance of Israel over Washington as one of black mail?
Oh, because it's uh well understood uh that the use of black mail has been a standard part of American politics for a long time.
We don't know most of it, but we certainly know enough that Epstein, for example, was a Mossad agent and engaged in uh gathering compromising materials, let us say, of the American political class.
And that's why the files suddenly weren't there.
That's why Donald Trump's signature isn't his signature.
Come on.
Come on.
This is so sad and so pathetic.
Why is why is it that uh the Doha radar and air defenses were down when the Israelis attacked?
Aren't the radar and air defenses for Doha operated by the enormous U.S. military base right outside of Doha?
That's wouldn't that be nice to know how that happened?
Again, Donald Trump may well have been the last to know.
It's it's possible.
I don't doubt it.
Uh, but the United States government surely knew.
Israel was not flying all that way without the U.S. security apparatus absolutely knowing what was happening, period.
Would Netanyahu have said, I want your permission to do it, or we're doing it.
No, clearly uh he doesn't have to ask any permission because he knows that the permission will be granted.
So there's nothing to ask.
Uh, it's uh always granted by the U.S. Um, he doesn't have he can give deniability to Donald Trump uh, or he doesn't even have to ask.
So no, but Mossad and the CIA coordinate, that's for sure.
Well, we know that uh the Royal Air Force uh jets refueled the Israeli jets mid-air.
If the RAF was involved, MI6 was involved.
If MI6 was involved, CIA was involved.
It doesn't take very much to connect these dots.
Of course.
Of course.
This is the most important point.
We are not run as a democracy.
Donald Trump may be in no more position to do much about this than we are.
This is Mossad, which is a global killing machine.
And by the way, all the Israeli politicians came out immediately after this and said, we will go anywhere.
Our long arm reaches anywhere.
Yeah, they feel absolutely the impunity to murder people anywhere and uh to bomb people anywhere.
And that's why Israel is engaged in wars everywhere right now.
Here's the president yesterday.
I'd like your views on whether his denial is credible.
Chris number 16.
He's an Israeli strike earlier today.
Well, I'm not thrilled.
I'm not thrilled about it.
I don't have to do that.
I'm just I'm not thrilled about uh the whole situation.
It's not not a good situation.
But uh I will say this.
We want the hostages back.
But we are not thrilled about the way that went down today.
Did you notify you in advance, Mr. President?
Did his rules help you advance?
Yeah.
You were caught by surprise, sir.
I'm never I'm never surprised by anything, especially when it comes to the Middle East.
How did you learn about this happening?
I'll be giving a full statement tomorrow, but uh I would uh tell you this.
I was very unhappy about it, very unhappy about every aspect.
And uh we got to get the hostages back.
But I was very unhappy about the way that went down.
Do you think the Qataris will ask for that 400 million dollar jet back that they gave to the president personally?
Sad to say they won't.
Uh they won't.
Do you think they'll close down the uh American uh air base there, which is the largest in the Middle East, and tell the US to go home?
No.
They won't do that either.
It's it's so sad how we're trapped uh in this uh unbelievably bizarre opaque Israel-led debacle after debacle.
Everyone remains uh a bit supine in this, even Donald Trump, who was disappointed uh and found out at the last moment and made the call, by the way, uh supposedly to warn uh the the Qatar side as the bombs were actually dropping.
Talk about a figurehead.
That's a figurehead.
He didn't uh express uh displeasure.
How could we not have known from our ally?
Of course they knew uh, but uh maybe he should figure out why uh he wasn't told.
Can uh Marco Rubio be the Secretary of State and the National Security Advisor at the same time?
I don't mean legally, can I can he, but as a practical matter, can he?
Is not the National Security Advisor someone whose office is right outside of the Oval Office with a huge staff reporting to him in uh in the West Wing, uh manned by professionals who analyze intelligence and military and economic information that report to the president.
Does Donald Trump have the benefit of all that anymore?
As a practical matter, I don't know whether Marco Rubio can be either Secretary of State or National Security Advisor, because I don't see any signs of any competence.
So I don't know whether he's uh up to any of these or either of these jobs, much less both of them.
We have the biggest amateur hour imaginable.
By the way, when the professionals run things, it's often not better because uh our professional CIA class has uh led the U.S. from one disaster to another.
But what we have Is the disasters continuing, but absolute amateur hour.
So it's all improv, which we just saw in Donald Trump's own remarks.
It's complete improv.
Hamas was supposed to be considering a ceasefire uh proposal.
Instead, let's kill them.
That's uh little improv if if that's what passes for U.S. foreign policy.
Here's the uh Qatari Prime Minister uh yesterday, Jeff, uh Chris number 15.
The Israeli attack.
That took place today on the state of in the state of Qatar.
We can only call it as a state terrorism that is being exerted by someone like Natanyahue, given his attempts and his policies as he tries to threaten the regional security.
This is only a clear message to the whole region.
And this message says that there is one player and there's also a disrespect to all the policies and also a violation to the sovereignty of all the countries and the states.
Natanyaho said himself that he will reshape the Middle East.
Does he mean that he's also going to reshape the Gulf region?
I think that we have reached a decisive moment.
There should be uh retaliation from the whole region to in the face of those barbaric actions that only reflects one thing.
It reflects the uh barbarism of this uh person that is leading the region to unfortunately to a point where we cannot address any situation and we cannot repair anything, and we cannot work within the frameworks of international laws.
He just violates all those international laws.
Who would negotiate with the Israelis ever again?
And who would accept an American lure into a negotiation ever again?
The Gulf Cooperation Council, which is uh the governments of the Gulf region should absolutely uh end the diplomatic relations with Israel, end the Abraham Accords, and not only because of yesterday's attack, but because of an ongoing genocide in Palestine.
Of course, they should understand that Israel could not do any of this without the United States, and that is a big problem for them, because uh they almost are trapped with U.S. military bases uh all over the Middle East region.
But the fact of the matter is the Arab League and the organization of Islamic cooperation and the SEO uh and uh the BRICS and uh the African Union and the UN General Assembly all have to say to the United States, this is absolutely untenable.
It's illegal, it is uh in war crimes, it is in gross violation of the will of the world.
It happens, by the way, they might mention it, that is gross violation of the will of the American people, and it is leading the world to disaster.
Israel is yes, uh his Gulf region is at risk because Israel is at war all over the region using F-35s, uh, by the way, U.S. provided military equipment and support.
This is a partnership of Mossad and the CIA.
They let the president in once in a while, I suppose, uh, on all of this.
But this is a partnership that is absolutely reckless and dangerous for the whole world.
And I would have thought that a genocide would have been enough to alert this, deliberately starving two million people.
I would have thought would have been enough to alert this.
But it seems that the tolerance uh for uh roguary is uh uh almost uh unimaginably large.
But yes, the time has come, as the prime minister rightly said, to stop this.
The way to stop this is to create a state of Palestine and to put Israel back in its borders, not in this lawless, murderous regime, which thinks it can go anywhere and murder people anywhere that it wants.
It has to stop and live like the rest of humanity is supposed to live according to standards of human behavior and international law.
And this can be done, but the United States is the only protection and shield of Israel.
So if Donald Trump or the CIA head or whoever's really in charge would think about it and think about America's interests, this would stop.
Professor Sachs, thank you very much.
These are dreadfully important things that we discussed.
You've been kind enough to come on for a second time this week at And of course, it's a pleasure.
But let me add, by the way, just I checked in the interim, Indonesia is not a member of the SEO.