July 7, 2025 - Judging Freedom - Judge Andrew Napolitano
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Hi, everyone.
Judge Andrew Napolitano here for Judging Freedom.
Today is Tuesday, July 8th, 2025.
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Aaron Mate, welcome here, my dear friend.
I do want to talk to you about what you posted and wrote about recently, American soldiers of fortune murdering Palestinians on film and boasting about it.
I think I have that correctly.
But before we get to that, another subject about which you have written extensively and is now back in the news, and that is the CIA's involvement in the Russiate scandals of 2017.
Apparently, a new CIA report is out critical of John Brennan and what he did and didn't do when he was running the CIA.
Can you bring us up to speed on that?
For those who are not familiar with all the details or who may have forgotten because some time has passed and there's so much to keep track of, Russagate was when the Hillary Clinton campaign teamed up with elements of the national security state, including John Brennan, who was then the director of the CIA, and framed Trump as a Russian asset and also framed Russia, I believe, for launching a sweeping so-called interference plot to put Trump in office.
Those are the main planks of RussiaGate, and both of them, I think, are equally fraudulent.
So we know by now that the collusion conspiracy aspect was a scam.
There have been multiple investigations showing that that was baseless.
But the other component, this Russian interference allegation on behalf of Trump, that one is still standing.
And so the CIA had just put out a review supposedly looking at a very foundational RussiaGate document that advanced these allegations of Trump-Russia collusion and Russian interference, which was the so-called intelligence community assessment of January 2017.
This is released in the last days of the Obama administration.
It was hurried for production on a very unusual schedule.
It was put out right before Trump took office.
And the impact of it was basically to portray Trump as the product of a Russian interference plot.
And this engulfed his ensuing administration.
It set the tone for the Russia mania that was to come.
So the CIA now, so many years later, has put out a review of the CIA's role in that January 2017 intelligence document.
And yes, it's critical of John Brennan.
It notes what we've already known before, which is that John Brennan excluded key actors.
He excluded the Defense Intelligence Agency of the Pentagon.
He excluded the State Department's intelligence agency.
He put this on a very rushed timeline.
He oversaw the process himself.
You know, at the time, everybody said this was the consensus of the intelligence community that Russia interfered.
No, it wasn't.
It was the consensus of a small group of people overseen by John Brennan, who was a key person in this plot to frame Trump as a Russian agent.
And so this new review from under John Ratcliffe's watch, Trump's current director of the CIA, it faults Brennan and the CIA for what it calls some procedural anomalies.
And it raises some interesting points and some new detail we didn't know about just how all this fraud was perpetrated.
But it leaves unscathed.
And this is a fundamental point.
John Ratcliffe is still leaving unscathed the fundamental fraud, which was that the U.S. intelligence community under John Brennan's watch accused Russia of a massive interference plot to elect Trump.
And Ratcliffe's review takes issue with only one small component of that.
It doesn't address the underlying fraud.
So the bottom line here is Trump's CIA is still covering up the Obama administration's CIA's role in framing Trump and Russia as being in cahoots in their business.
And it is not just of historical importance.
It's relevant today.
But here's the bottom line.
Who would believe a damn thing the CIA says?
That's a great question.
And people have ample reasons to be skeptical given how much deception the CIA has been involved in, not only on this issue, but on so many others.
But look, it's striking that even under Trump partisans like John Ratcliffe, it's so hard to get the truth out.
We still, so many years later, as the public can't access the reports written by CrowdStrike, which was the firm hired by Hillary Clinton, which launched RussiaGate by accusing Russia of hacking the DNC.
And we know now that the FBI relied on CrowdStrike's work.
CrowdStrike refused to let the FBI look at the DNC servers themselves.
And that could have helped determine who actually hacked the DNC, whether it was Russia or whether it was a leak from the inside.
The FBI was barred from looking at the servers themselves and instead had to rely on a contractor hired by Hillary Clinton, who was simultaneously enlisting Christopher Steele to feed propaganda into the FBI.
So, still so many years later, we have the intelligence community protecting its own reputation rather than getting to the truth, even despite Trump's many promises for accountability.
And it's interesting to speculate as to why.
It speaks to the entrenched power of the national security state, that even when it's led now by a president who was attacked by the FBI and the CIA, we still can't get accountability.
And also, because RussiaGate fueled a narrative that helped drive the proxy war in Ukraine, I think that's also a major reason why the CIA won't own up to the fraud, because we need to manufacture scandals like this.
Russia attacked our democracy.
They interfered.
They tried to sow chaos in order to sow tension and war with Russia abroad.
Is Telsey Gabbard on the outside and John Ratcliffe ascendant?
I think John Ratcliffe is definitely ascendant.
I know you've talked to Max Blumenthal, my colleague at the Grave Zone, about his reporting where he spoke to somebody inside the Trump administration who told him that John Ratcliffe was acting as essentially Mossad, the Israeli intelligence services stenographer inside the White House, feeding Trump with Israeli propaganda about Iran's non-existent nuclear weapons program.
And so Ratcliffe has played an instrumental role to the point where an Israeli intelligence official thanked John Ratcliffe personally for all of his efforts.
Tulsi Gabbard, we know there's been reporting.
She was excluded from a very key meeting on the Trump administration's deliberations over Iran.
Tulsi has since played ball.
She put out a very misleading statement that claimed that the U.S. had intelligence that supported Israeli claims about Iran, even though, as I've written about, the intelligence was simply Israel passing on its claims.
It wasn't actual evidence because there is no evidence of a Iranian nuclear weapons program, as Tulsi Gabbard affirmed back in March.
So I haven't heard anything recently, but I think it's fair to say that people like John Ratcliffe have a lot more stock inside the White House than Tulsi Gabbard does.
I didn't see her in the views of the dinner with Benjamin Netanyahu last night.
She was not at that table.
Ratcliffe was.
It was a small dinner.
There were only appeared to be 12 or 14 people there, but she did not appear to be among them.
Max, as you know, I'm sure you've discussed this with him, has told us that Mossad agents have actually briefed Trump and in so doing defied or gave a different version of what American intelligence purported to give him, whether they gave it to him through Ratcliffe, probably not.
They probably gave it to him through a Gabbard.
Ratcliffe's not going to tell him anything to contradict his masters and Mossad.
I'm being a little snarky calling them masters, but it's a fair characterization.
What I got from Max's reporting was that basically Ratcliffe was getting his disinformation fed to him by Israel, and then he was conveying that to Trump directly.
That's what I gleaned from what Max did at the Grey Zone.
And that speaks to what I've heard as well from a source I have inside government, which is basically the Israeli claims about Iran being months or weeks away.
There was no intelligence consensus at all behind that whatsoever.
There was no U.S. intelligence product that endorsed that claim because it's simply not true.
The U.S. intelligence view was what Tulsi Gabbard made clear back in March, was that Iran does not have a nuclear weapons program.
It could be closer to nuclear weapons if it wanted to, but it does not have an active nuclear weapons program.
What is your view as to why the ostentatious Netanyahu visit yesterday, was it for domestic Israeli political purposes or is he still trying to propagandize Trump's brain?
For Netanyahu, the Iran conflict is not over.
wants regime change as do many influential people inside the us including some people inside the trump white house so that's what Absolutely.
Absolutely.
So that's what he's pushing for.
And he also wants to get Trump's endorsement for continuing to ethnically cleanse Palestinians from Gaza, which he already has.
They talked last night about what Nenya who called the freedom of choice, which means the forced expulsion from Gaza.
And of course, not expulsion back to Palestinians' homes and what is now Israel, which was stolen from them, but expelled somewhere else.
And I think that's the next phase of their plan.
And they've already talked about this before.
Recall a few months ago, Trump released that horrendous AI video of his vision for Gaza, where it's all resorts and there's no more Palestinians there.
That's essentially what Nenyahu is pushing now.
And also, Trump also said that Nenyeho asked him to remove sanctions on Syria because now Syria is ruled by people that the U.S. and Israel perceive that they can control because they helped put them in power through the dirty war.
And Trump last night at that dinner personally said Netanyahu also wanted sanctions lifted on Syria.
And that's why Nenyaho's visit coincided with the U.S. officially taking the ruling al-Qaeda group in Syria, Hayat Tafri al-Sham, which now rules over Syria, taking them off of the terrorist list.
These people are monsters who slaughter innocents, Christians, Alawites, anybody that gets in the way.
These are the people that Trump is embracing and off of whom he's removing American sanctions.
Yes.
And it's another case where Trump is contradicting previous truths that he's put out there.
Before, like when he first came to office in his first term, he shut down actually the CIA program in Syria.
One of the things he said was, and I've written about this in an article called Al-Qaeda is on our side, quoting Jake Sullivan's famous line to Hillary Clinton.
But Trump said, it turns out a lot of the weapons that we were sending to Syria ended up in the hands of al-Qaeda.
He was critical of that.
And if you call back in 2016, he was critical of the dirty war in Syria.
Now he's back in office.
He's surrounded by neocons who he's totally empowered.
He's doing their bidding.
He's adopting their policy of empowering al-Qaeda in Syria.
Have the, at the risk of getting too deep into the weeds of American politics, have the Tucker Carlson's and Steve Bannon's just been shunted aside?
Because it does seem as though this administration's foreign policy is as directed by neocons as was Joe Biden's.
I agree with that.
And I'd love to know what Tucker Carlson and Steve Bennon think about, you know, the role of their wing of the movement right now, which continues to be marginalized.
And, you know, Steve Bennett recently met with Trump at the White House, and Bannon's been openly critical of bombing Iran, but yet it just doesn't seem to register with Trump, who keeps redefining what America first is.
I mean, America first was supposed to be, I thought, and certainly people like Steve Bannon and Chuck Carlson promoted this idea that, you know, we focus on U.S. issues and stop meddling abroad.
Trump keeps redefining America first to be Israel first.
Those are what his policies are.
He's continuing to show that.
So yeah, I think that wing of the MAGA movement has totally been marginalized.
And people like Lindsey Graham, who also claim the MAGA mantle, they're the ones who are ascended.
I would imagine, although, thank you, Lord.
We haven't heard from him in about a week or so.
I would imagine Lindsey Graham is ecstatic about what's going on.
I want to play for you a clip.
I don't know if you know this fellow, Zivka Fogel.
He's an Israeli member of parliament in the Likud Party.
This is horrific what he's saying, but the Nets and Yahoo government put this out on Sunday afternoon.
Chris, cut number one.
The war we are fighting today, which we embarked on the 7th of October, is a war against a Nazi enemy that threatened the existence of the Jewish people in the land of Israel.
That is the whole truth.
So the Prime Minister decided to do it sequentially.
I'm with him.
No problem, let's do it sequentially.
You eliminated Hezbollah, you dealt a severe blow, maybe even more than that, to Iran.
Now the time has come to deal with the Gaza Strip.
How do we do that?
You take off the gloves, stop the humanitarian aid, cut off electricity, cut off water, start destroying, and expel voluntarily, so to speak, voluntary migration to Gazans.
There are no uninvolved people there, no innocents, no one who isn't guilty.
As far as I'm concerned, they're all Hamas members.
At the end of the war, there should be two images in the Gaza Strip.
First, not a single Gazan remains.
And all 50 of our hostages, 49 male hostages, and one female hostage, both living and deceased there, returned to the state of Israel.
I mean, this guy is the SS reincarnated.
Yes, he is.
And all these tactics from Israel, not just their rhetoric, their tactics echo that of the German Nazis.
Gaza is a concentration camp.
And now the plan is to push all of the people of Gaza into the south in what Israel is calling a humanitarian city, which just means a death trap where they'll either be killed or they'll be pushed for ethnic cleansing.
That's what they're pushing now.
And then the plan is to, you know, fulfill Trump's vision of turning Gaza into this playground for Israel and Gulf kingdoms and their allies around the world to basically bring in migrant laborers to serve the region, to serve the wealthy of that region with resorts and tech hubs and all that.
It's dystopian, but it's happening before our eyes.
And one of the mechanisms for this has been kicking out UNRWA, the main UN agency for Palestinian refugees in Gaza, and replacing it with the so-called Gaza Humanitarian Foundation, which is essentially an Israeli intelligence front funded by the U.S. and staffed with U.S. mercenaries.
So all this is proceeding, and there's no force right now in the world that is able to stop it.
Before we get to those U.S. mercenaries and what they're doing, Chris, can you put up those two full screens from the two Israeli newspaper headlines?
Here's Ha'aretz.
Defense Minister says Israel plans to concentrate all Gaza's population in humanitarian zone built on Rafa's ruins.
This is what you just said, Aaron.
The Times of Israel plans said to outline humanitarian transit camps, concentration camps, to house Gazans before possible a relocation.
You're telling us that this is an accurate description of what the Netanyahu regime plans to do with Donald Trump's blessings.
You see it there in those two headlines.
And thank you for pointing that out.
Concentration camp.
That's what this is.
That's exactly what this is.
I wouldn't be surprised if Israeli officials studied Nazi Germany, honestly, at this point, given the similarities of their tactics, certainly the results.
That's exactly what is happening.
And it's been, by the way, the plan from the start.
The Biden administration knew that this was Israel's plan all along.
The Biden administration lobbied Arab countries to take Palestinian refugees from Gaza.
No one, of course, ever thought about letting Palestini return to their stolen homes in what is now Israel, where most of the people of Gaza come from, them and their predecessors.
It's all to facilitate ethnic cleansing.
And that is the phase of the plan we're entering now.
That's why Trump is so optimistic now about a ceasefire, because they're moving on to the next phase of simply just permanently emptying out Gaza after making it unlivable.
Have American mercenaries been filmed murdering Palestinians and rejoicing over it?
Yes, they have.
And ironically, the evidence is contained in a video that was put out by these U.S. mercenaries to try to do damage control.
And there's an article at the Gray Zone by my colleagues Mac Flumenthal and Wyatt Reid, which points out that the footage released by these U.S. mercenaries, they're called UG Solutions, which works for the so-called Gaza Humanitarian Foundation.
It shows them firing on people in Gaza.
So their attempts to exonerate themselves are actually incriminating.
And basically who these are are U.S. mercenaries making a lot of money to help Guard the officials at the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation as they distribute aid, which Israel has used to actually trap Palestinians and then shoot them.
There have been so many now killings at these so-called aid distributions.
And so, what the footage shows is simply these U.S. mercenaries firing on crowds despite not being under threat.
And the company, UG Solutions, had claimed publicly that they didn't fire on crowds.
So their own footage undermines their own public claims.
What is that company doing there and who has hired them?
How do Americans get to Gaza armed like American soldiers?
So UG Solutions is a mercenary firm which works for the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation.
The Gaza Humanitarian Foundation is basically a front for Israeli intelligence.
It's funded by the U.S. government, including via USAID, after so much hype was made about Trump's attempt to shut down USAID.
It turns out the exact same problems with USAID basically funding covert operations under the guise of humanitarianism.
That's exactly the same playbook now, including with this dystopian so-called Gaza Humanitarian Foundation.
So UG Solutions is one of two mercenary firms, I believe, that have been hired to deploy alongside the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation.
And these are some Americans, a lot of them veterans, making a lot of money to go and facilitate ethnic cleansing.
This is not a protected act, by which I mean a future Department of Justice could indict them for murder.
There's no statute of limitations on murder.
This is not the government.
This is not a declared war.
They're not deployed by the United States government.
They have no legal basis to justify their murder.
And they've exposed themselves, as I said, to the wrath of a more rationally thinking and more rule of law dedicated future Department of Justice.
Yes, I imagine, though, knowing that this was part of the plan, which is to use this fake aid scheme to kill people, I imagine that they've already set up some legal protections for themselves, that everyone already has immunity.
I wouldn't be surprised, especially after so many previous deadly mercenary operations by the U.S. around the world, including Blackwater in Iraq, which I'm sure this whole scheme is modeled after.
But yes, so you have UG Solutions, you have another mercenary firm.
It's founded by a former CIA official.
It's called Safe Reach Solutions.
And so they've deployed alongside the Israeli military to push the operations of the Trump-funded Gaza Humanitarian Foundation, which itself, again, is tied to Israeli intelligence as well.
And then you also have, and this article in the Gorizon points this out, these gangs linked to ISIS in Gaza that have essentially been acting as mercenaries on behalf of Israel.
So you have a constellation of these forces all coming together to be responsible for giving out aid to the people of Gaza, which leads to looting and it leads to killing, which is part of the plan.
Aaron Mate, thank you, my dear friend.
Thanks for the background on all the Russia gate and thanks for exposing Americans killing Palestinians.
This only seems, before we say goodbye, this only seems to get worse.
Every time we talk about this, it's worse.
More murder, more bloodshed, more Nazi-like threats and terminology and plans from people in the Israeli government.
I guess there'll be no end to this until we have a new president in three and a half years.
I agree with you.
Trump promised to bring peace to the Middle East.
He courted the Arab American vote.
People wanted to believe it, understandably, because the Biden administration was so horrible.
Kamala Harris refused to distance herself at all from Biden.
So the Democrats own a large share of responsibility, but this is Trump's policy now.
And he's been just as genocidal as genocide Joe was.
And I share your sentiments.
And in terms of this story, all the credit goes to my colleagues at the Gray Zone, Max Blumethal and Wyatt Reed.
They did this reporting.
I'm just relaying it to you today.
Thank you, Aaron.
We'll talk to you again soon.
All the best, my friend.
Thank you, Judge.
Sure.
Coming up later today at three o'clock this afternoon on all of this.
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