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Dec. 15, 2024 - Judging Freedom - Judge Andrew Napolitano
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Hi everyone, Judge Andrew Napolitano here for Judging Freedom.
Today is Monday, December 16th, 2024.
Chief Dennis Fritz is here and will be with us in a moment on Benjamin Netanyahu's lust for Syrian land.
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Chief Fritz, welcome here, my dear friend.
Always a pleasure to be able to chat with you.
I do want to ask you about Syria and whether American troops were involved.
We know that to some extent they were, not boots on the ground, but planes in the air.
But before we do, earlier today, the government of Chancellor Schultz in Germany collapsed.
This is the same government that allowed the American military and CIA to destroy the Nord Stream pipeline, its principal source of inexpensive fuel for the winter.
The leading opposition leader is in favor of heavily arming Ukraine.
What do you make of all this?
Judge craziness, if you will.
It's almost like you're willing to destroy your own country on behalf of the United States and its imperialistic goals.
You're willing to freeze your country, especially during the winter, on behalf of an imperialistic goal.
And then when you talk about arming Ukraine to the T, what you're doing is continually Expand into war until it ends up being what some have been saying for a while now.
We will end up in World War III.
You were the highest ranking enlisted officer in the military.
How do enlisted personnel feel about America goading other countries into war?
Well, let me just correct one thing, Judge.
I was one of the highest enlisted personnel for the Air Force, and I had two of DOD's highest enlisted positions.
Okay.
Okay.
But I will tell you this, is that we are the ones that the so-called boots on the ground.
I don't like to say that because we're human beings.
But when you start goading us into war, we and our families are the ones that make the sacrifice.
You've had me on before when we talked about my book, Daily Betrayal, and that was the reason why I wrote that book.
If you take a look at the Iraq War in 2003, 4,500 military men and women lost their lives based on being goaded into a war.
Over hundreds of thousands that have been wounded for life, both mentally and physically.
So we don't take it too lightly when we're out there being the ones that have to make the sacrifice.
For our arrogance, you know, by our government, you know, go to us into war that we're the only superpower.
We can go anywhere we so desire and please and put boots on the ground.
Well, you know, we're the boots on the ground.
We're human beings.
Do the enlisted folks Mumble, grumble to themselves.
Why are they doing this again?
Why is Joe Biden doing this?
Why is Ronald Reagan doing that?
Why is Bill Clinton doing this?
Why is Barack Obama doing that?
Or do they just obey?
Judge, that is one of the problems.
Yes, we're taught to obey unless we know something truly to be illegal.
To be quite frank with you, when you go into the military, you're indoctrinated.
That we're to go and fight America's wars.
And that's why there's a lot of disinformation out there of the reasons why we go to war.
It's in defense of our country.
They go to us by way of when we come back.
It's become a statement now that a lot of us retirees and veterans don't appreciate it anymore.
Thank you for your service.
Everybody says that.
Well, I think most mean that.
But we're beginning to just really not appreciate that as we look and see, okay, why are we going to these wars?
Yes, the young enlisted troops, especially from their families when they're being asked the question, why are you deploying to such and such?
Why are you going over there?
And most of the time, our military men and women, especially the enlisted corps, don't know.
It's just being told, hey, we have an enemy to fight.
So the bottom line, we're indoctrinated to fight wars and not question the wars unless we absolutely know something is illegal.
I mean, what conceivable national security threat did North Vietnam pose to the United States?
I would imagine if you asked a lot of guys my age, my generation, why did you fight that war?
They would say, well, I was drafted.
I had no choice.
But I mean, morally, why did you fight the war?
What were you fighting for?
What was gained by killing these people in their pajamas and flip-flops in the jungle?
We demonize.
We demonize them.
You know, if you don't kill that person across the street, that person will kill you.
We demonize them.
How about this, Judge?
What threat did, to be quite frank with you, did Afghanistan and the Taliban have against us?
They didn't attack us.
What was the threat of Saddam?
You know, I asked many of our audiences, I want your audience to know this, both nationally and internationally.
What threat did Saddam have?
You know, he was no threat to us.
How about Syria now?
Syria absolutely was no threat to us.
And to be quite frank, let's take it a step further.
Iran is no threat to us.
And so, you know, we're told that these are the enemies.
You know, they want to change our way of life.
Well, they're not over here trying to change our way of life.
We're over there in their parts of the world trying to change their life in so-called, quote, quote, democracy.
I think you're 100% correct, Sarge, Chief.
Why did the United States foment the destruction of Syria?
Judge, that is part of the master plan going all the way back to the 90s.
And as I've articulated and stated in my book, the first one was Saddam.
To take out Saddam, and the second country to take out, which I've seen lately a lot of people are quoting General Wesley Clark in the seven countries, where I saw those documents directly.
He said, hey...
There was one guy that used to work for him in the Pentagon that said, hey, look here, boss, look what I have here, where I actually saw the document personally.
And Saddam and Iraq was the first part of that plan, and Syria was next.
The only reason that we didn't physically go into Syria during that time, because we were going to put boots on the ground in Syria, was because of the Iraqi insurgency.
Now, the folks, the neocons, and those folks that follow that doctrine, it's a long-term strategy, Judge, long-term.
And they were able to change their plan instead of us going in directly after we lost 4,500 men and women.
We went covertly.
Syria was always part of the master plan.
In 2004-5, we were going to go in there physically, boots on the ground.
Starting around 2011 to 2017, we started doing it covertly, you know, paying, quite frankly, billions of dollars to covertly go there and tear down.
Assad on behalf of Israel.
Now, with that said, I want you to think about this.
Saddam, gone.
Assad, gone.
Next on the list is Iran.
And they're going to try to do that internally.
It will not be as easy as it was.
If you look at it, it took many years to finally get to Assad.
But it's going to be a lot harder with Iran.
They're going to try to do that internally.
And I mentioned that in my book.
It's already started with Bibi Netanyahu.
He's already so-called given a speech to the Iranian people about how you need to take back your country from the Ayatollahs.
And so we've already started the final stage of the Middle East takeover on behalf of Israel.
Here's someone else who agrees with you.
about the United States exporting violence and provoking wars.
But before we run it, Chris, do we still have the clip of General Wesley Clark referring to that document?
Chris is going to look for it.
While he's looking for it, Chris, play Putin 12, please.
Today the military and political situation in the world remains difficult and unstable.
Bloodshed in the Middle East and high conflict potential remains in a number of other regions of the world.
We see that the current U.S. administration, almost the entire collective West, does not give up trying to maintain its global dominance, and continues to impose its so-called rules on the world community, which at the same time changes over and over again,
distorts facts because it is convenient for them.
But in fact there is only one stable rule, no rules for those who do this, for those who consider themselves at the head of the whole world, those who representatives of the Lord on Earth.
Although they themselves do not believe in the Lord and wage hybrid wars against undesirable states and implement a policy of containment, including in relation to Russia, the desire to weaken our country to cause a defeat for us, the United States is send advisors and thereby signaling a future escalation of the conflict.
The U.S. thinks it's lord of the world and doesn't even believe in God.
Well, Judge, you know, we say that, but I got to tell you, I've said in the past, in fact, in the last couple of weeks, let's take Gaza, for example.
We're supposed to be a God-fearing country, but yet I've been disappointed in the church of how we allow innocent women and children to be killed in Gaza, destroyed, young children losing limbs.
But yet, we're afraid, for some reason, to speak out against that.
But yet, we're supposed to be God-loving people.
Now, let's go back.
I believe in truth, no matter what.
And sometimes, if we happen to be in agreement with Putin, we're demonized at spreading Putin propaganda.
But listen, let's take a look at this.
Just look at our own CNIs.
As I stated earlier, look at Iraq.
There's no really true justification for us to go in and invade Iraq.
Look at what we've done to Syria.
And think about Libya when you were talking about the peace with General Wesley Clark.
Look at Libya, what we've done to Libya.
It is a destroyed country.
And likewise, that's what happened in Syria, too.
But, hey, guess what?
Bibi Netanyahu does not care.
Why?
Because it is the second leg of the master plan.
We've gotten rid of Assad, a stronghold man who was really, whether we like him or not, he was holding that country together.
But based on billions and billions of dollars that we poured in there covertly to take down Assad, as I mentioned earlier, it's a long-term strategy.
Look how long.
From 2004 to 2005, we were planning on going into Syria physically, boots on the ground, and it didn't work out, as I alluded to earlier, because the Iraqi insurgents got...
But look, we changed our plan, and then we started doing it covertly, and then look, in 2024, Assad is gone.
Look at our footprint around the world.
Look at when Syria went down so quickly.
We were so quickly to say how Russia couldn't respond.
Iran couldn't respond.
Why?
Because we weakened them.
So we are using and abusing the people of Ukraine, as I stated previously.
You know, killing their young men and women, and now we want them to recruit 18 to 25-year-olds so more can be killed, having their infrastructure destroyed so that, guess what?
We can weaken Russia.
It's right before our eyes.
Sometimes we just have to be, you know, truth and look ourselves in the mirror.
And let me just say this, Judge.
I love my country.
When I was overseas, I couldn't wait to get back to the United States of America.
But that does not stop me criticizing my country.
When I see wrongness, and we should all criticize our country when we see wrongness.
Chief, here's the clip you alluded to and that we ran a few weeks ago.
It's General Wesley Clark in 2007.
Now you tell us if you think he's referring to the same document that you saw.
He said, I just got this down from upstairs, meaning the Secretary of Defense Office today, and he said, this is a memo that describes how we're going to take out Seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and finishing off Iran.
I said, "Is it classified?"
He said, "Yes, sir."
I said, "Well, don't show it to me."
If you were Iran, you'd probably believe that you were mostly already at war with the United States anyway, since we've...
We've asserted that their government needs regime change.
And we've asked Congress to appropriate $75 million to do it, and we are supporting terrorist groups, apparently, who are infiltrating and blowing up things inside Iran.
And if we're not doing it, let's put it this way, we're probably cognizant of it and encouraging it.
So it's not surprising that we're moving to a...
Chief, do you think you saw the same document to which General Clark was referring?
Oh, there's no doubt.
And a few others as well.
There's no doubt.
The key now is that, you know, people like the media, historians or whatever, they should request Freedom of Information request now.
Because in fact, guess what?
I quoted that in my book.
It's declassified now.
And so they should go and find it themselves.
Now, let me just mention something else, Judge, that disappoints me.
You know, you look at General Clark, and he said that during that particular interview, my biggest disappointment is why have not more general officers come out that know the true meaning of why we went into Iraq, why we covertly in Syria,
and planning war with Iran?
Some of them know, as Wesley Clark mentioned, the officer that showed him that paper.
Why don't they come out now?
It's just shameful when you talk about enlisted men and women.
You know, I've been asked, why did I wait so long to write my book?
Well, I was hoping and praying that someone in a higher category than me, like some general officer or some former cabinet member who knows the truth, would come out and say it.
I was hoping that a chief master sergeant, an enlisted man, would not have to come out.
And do this.
It should be general officers.
And General Clark should be more forceful now knowing that that paper existed.
He should be more forceful now.
And guess what?
And the reason I'm so disappointed, Judge, 4,500 military men and women lost their lives based on that paper.
Over 100,000 wounded for life mentally and physically because of that paper.
And my biggest disappointment is me, a Chief Master Sergeant, Command Chief Master Sergeant, had to come out and lay that out when people like General Wesley Clark knows the truth.
That is a big disappointment to me.
The people that struck the final blow, if you will, that crushed the Syrian government and effectively the Syrian state were this group HTS,
which...
The American State Department is categorized as a terrorist organization.
I think the statute is faulty, but once the Secretary of State characterizes some group as a terrorist organization, anyone who supplies material assistance to that organization can be indicted,
prosecuted, and if convicted, confined.
How can The CIA provide material assistance to a terrorist organization, the head of which, this guy Al Jelani, has a $10 million bounty on his head.
What message does the United States government send when it does that?
Judge, it's right before our eyes, and we have to recognize it.
As I stated before, I love my country, but we are a corrupt country.
All you have to do, I give you a better example than that.
How about the arms that we're providing to Israel right now that's breaking all State Department policy in killing women and children?
We're providing arms that Israel is using offensively, killing innocent women and children.
We are always doing corrupt things, and we might as well just recognize that.
It's so disappointing.
We always are breaking international law and our own policies.
And it's just unfortunate and a disgrace.
And we have no grounds to talk about how we're the leader in humanness and humanity because we're being shown how corrupt we truly are.
And the only way we can change that is you allowing people like myself and others who you have on to come out and share what we know.
You know, we can give you facts, which I've given you some facts.
We can give you opinions and we can give you assumptions.
But we need to continue different programs like this.
And so that we can change this and so our people are educated to understand how truly our government is corrupt.
And I wanted to see a fair, a fair, a good government.
I love my country, but I'm disappointed.
Chief, is there a segment of the CIA that's a terrorist organization?
Well, I got to tell you, I'm not an expert.
I'll leave that for the Ray McGoverns of the world and so forth.
I don't know, Judge.
And like I said, I always try to give facts of what I know that can give you an opinion and give you an assumption.
I can't even give you an assumption or a fact on that.
But here's what I will tell you.
I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case.
Chief Dennis Fritz, thank you very much.
Thank you for your courage.
Thank you for your passion, patriotism, intellect, and courage.
It's a pleasure to be able to chat with you, my friend.
Thank you, Judge.
Always an honor and a pleasure to be with you.
Thank you.
All right, Chief.
I have the list for tomorrow, and now I've misplaced it.
All right, we have Ambassador Craig Murray at 8 in the morning.
At 10 in the morning, we have Professor Jeffrey Sachs.
Trying to find my list.
I can't find it.
At 2 in the afternoon, Scott Ritter.
At 3 in the afternoon, Karen Kwiatkowski.
Judge Napolitano for Judging Freedom.
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