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I'm your host, Craig James.
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We're back.
A lot to cover in today's show.
You know, a lot of stories we're going to try to get into.
We're going to try to hit a little bit on everything.
But I guess one of the big stories that keeps popping up over and over and over again in my social media timelines is this you know ongoing investigation, I guess you could call it, into the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
You know, most people in the general public at this point look at this as sort of an open and shut case.
Um that this Tyler Robinson transgender, furry, degenerate person, decided to get up, drive, you know, three hours from his home down to uh or up to Utah Valley and magically knew how to get on the roof with a rifle and take a pretty difficult well,
not so difficult, but a magic shot nonetheless, with magic caliber rounds that you know ricochet off bones instead of you know evaporating them into particle uh particulate.
And uh, you know, and the connections keep getting weirder and weirder, and the coincidence keep coincidences keep getting weirder and weirder, and and look, I I have to preface it as always by saying I'm I don't get up every morning and go, man, I'm actually the opposite of the people that get up every morning and are like, oh, Israel's behind everything, you know, uh, Israel's hiding behind every bush, oh, Israel's in the room with us right now, you know.
I'm sort of the opposite of those guys.
I'm I've been trying to be skeptical the whole time of the whole thing.
Uh I'm trying my best to believe the official narrative.
I'm trying my best to, and for practical reasons, because again, I'm more of an Occam's razor guy.
That the simplest and and most likely explanation is the most likely explanation, right?
And so I'm trying to to be skeptical of all this stuff, which I think's healthy.
But the more I see, the more I hear, the more they they talk about it.
It's like I I'm just starting to go, well, what the what the hell really happened that day?
And one person who's been doing, you know, very in-depth reporting on it, whether you like her or not, or you agree with her or not.
She's a little kooky, a little out there, but you know, she seems, you know, at least earnest in her desire to get to the truth, is Candace Owens.
And Candace Owens has come out with another sort of bombshell thing related to this whole Charlie Kirk saga.
And what she's come out and said basically is that, you know, Israel or Charlie Kirk had 48 hours before his assassination made a sort of internal announcement at TPUSA that he was going to be changing his stance in support of Israel because of their actions,
and because of quote, Jewish donors, unquote, who had, you know, basically been threatening him, I guess, or making it seem as though they were gonna withdraw funding if he didn't continue to support Israel without question, and that he even had said that he wanted to bring Candace Owens back in the fold.
And this was all and she made this and said, This happened, prove me wrong.
And that this happened 48 hours before he caught a bullet in the neck, in the throat.
And look, we don't know if this is true yet.
Clearly, this is uh Candace Owens, so we'll just I mean it's kind of in TP USA's court because she basically publicly called them out and said, Hey, prove tell me I'm wrong.
You know, come out publicly and say that this isn't true.
Which is an interesting tactic, especially if you're lying.
Um something that seems i easily or easily refutable, but I would imagine that if she's making this claim, she has some sort of evidence to back it up, and she's challenging TPSA to say no, that's not the truth, so that then she can release or or you know, basically disseminate whatever proof that she has that it did take place, which again, just another coincidence, right?
There's no, again, there's no direct line of evidence I've seen yet that ties Charlie Kirk's assassination to Israel in any way, shape, or form.
It's just a series of very weird coincidences in Charlie Kirk's sort of evolution on his you know position on Israel, which had seemingly happened over the last five months or so.
Again, we we talked in yesterday's show about this letter that all of the, you know, people who are pro-Israel are waving around saying, This is proof, Charlie Kirk, you know, what was pro-Israel, and it was a letter written from Charlie Kirk to Benjamin Netanyahu.
I read some of that letter yesterday, and although, yes, there are parts of it that sound like Charlie Kirk's sort of advising them on how to, you know, do a PR campaign for the sake of Israel.
It also challenges you know Netanyahu to start answering the questions that he's being presented with at the turning point USA conferences.
And it and to me, I read part of it, and I thought, wow, that was Charlie Kirk basically telling Netanyahu, you know, I'm not gonna keep answering questions on your behalf.
You need to start answering these questions.
Right?
And that was his he was trying to be magnanimous and be sort of a nice guy about it, because that's Charlie Kirk.
That if you ever watch his debates, you he doesn't go out and attack people, he doesn't say, Oh, you're an idiot.
He says, Well, let me see.
Here's what I think, you know, here's what you should probably do if you're gonna believe that, and take it to he always tried to help people take their line of logic to its conclusion, and then when you got to the conclusion, say, Well, is that your desired outcome?
And if it is, then we disagree.
But if it isn't, then here's where you were wrong.
Here's here's where you took a wrong turn.
Here's where you could probably think of it a different way.
And that's when when you read the letter he wrote to to Netanyahu, that's what it sounded like to me.
He was saying, I don't want to answer these questions on your behalf anymore.
If you need to get people out there, if you if you uh are refuting all this, which and you think it's easily refutable, maybe it is, then you need to have better, you know, PR on this.
You need to have better response to it.
You can't ignore it because it's it's becoming it's becoming unignorable.
That's even a word.
I like to make up words sometimes, so bear with me.
But so that aside, you know, Candace is saying some interesting stuff, and then there's this whole investigation with who shot, you know, was Tyler Robinson the shooter, the bullets, uh was it some sort of you know, modified 22 caliber round that was in a 306, you know, um gun, you know, case uh bullet.
I don't know.
Right.
This is a very, or was it some people say it's like his lav mic was uh some sort of explosive that shot him in the neck from you know close range?
I don't know.
I don't know.
I mean, I haven't seen it much definitively to say one way or the other what it could be.
Are there shooters like behind him over his other shoulder that were shooting from behind him?
I don't know.
But it there are some strange things that people are pointing out.
Like, for instance, uh I I think that for as far as we know, Tyler Robinson had never been to the university, uh, the Utah Valley University, and we're just supposed to believe that he like knew how to scale a roof, knew where to go exactly, knew exactly where to get the perfect shot, because there's only like a very small part of the roof where you could get to where you'd have access that would give you a clear line of sight.
It we'll keep talking about it, and I'll play some clips, but it's just it's all so very strange.
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Welcome back, just for him talk radio.
Your host, Craig James.
And you know, look, like I said, I do not get up every day looking like, oh man, how am I going to tie Israel to the these things?
It's like every day I'm kind of bombarded with things that are strange coincidences tying Israel to things that I never thought to tie Israel to.
And to be quite frank.
When you think about Israel, right, and and this weird conflation that we get with people like Ted Cruz and you know, many others.
Uh there's a long list that's not even worth going through each person.
There are a lot of people out there who staunchly support Israel.
A lot of people don't know why they do it.
Ted Cruz is one of the main, you know, people in that category, but they do it because of some, you know, weird loose understanding of some, you know, sort of out of context piece of scripture that they reference from Genesis about,
you know, those who you know curse and it doesn't even say Israel, but those who curse Israel will be cursed, and those who bless Israel be blessed, and you know, understanding biblically what was being referenced as israel there is is a whole nother topic I don't want to get into.
But I do want to say that you know, Israel today, in its modern iteration, is is a state that was formed in nineteen forty-eight by uh many sort of eastern European uh Jewish settlers who are what you know they call Zionists who believe in the establishment of the state,
and there was elements of the Rothschild Banking Cartel that was involved in the British monarchy that was involved in establishing this state in the aftermath of World War II, and you know, there's a whole lengthy history there on that, but to me that's not what's being referenced in scripture,
And they've conflated it, especially now today, it's a secular humanist state government, you know, and it's not directly tied to you know biblical Israel, quote unquote, right?
But nobody seems to care about that.
I mean, there's just I I don't know why, but I guess there are people who believe different things.
It's more about the land itself than it is about even the people, I think, but the people are also a part of it, and again, you have a secular humanist state with that's not it's not a Jewish state, right?
I mean, everybody says it's a Jewish state.
I don't I and I could be wrong, but I as I understand it, it's it's a state that is comprised of Christians, Jews, Muslims that I don't know that they officially they they've I I think they identify as a Jewish state because of their majority Jewish, but anyway, it's it's a long thing, right?
And I'm not I'm no expert on Israel, by the way.
I don't sit around thinking about I think about America.
I'm I'm a political scientist who understands American politics pretty well, I think.
Been following and doing it for a long time, you know.
But at the end of the day, it there are things that happen, like we all kind of recognize that there is some weird nexus connection between you know JFK's assassination and Jack Ruby and the Mafia and perhaps Israeli intelligence,
and you know, there are weird connections between JFK's position on Israel's nuclear program and then him dying shortly after, sort of uh, you know, wanting to investigate or to send inspectors in to look at the program because he thought that they were developing nuclear weapons or had nuclear weapons or whatever.
And then he ends up dead, and and there are factions that seem to be and and those and they're it's like CIA also, it's it's weird.
It's the Zapata Bush, you know, oil rig people and all that too.
So it's weird, right?
And this ties more, I think, even then to Israel, it ties more to uh, you know, these secret societies.
You got the the Masons, the Skull and Bones, 322, da-da-da-da, you know, the stuff you can't talk about the the um what is it?
Bill Cooper called them the mystery school people, right?
The mystery schools.
This esoteric knowledge base that's built through secret societies, something JFK called out openly, you know, that there was a monolithic conspiracy, a monolithic, I think you said a ruthless conspiracy, right?
To uh basically they they were trying to take power and seize it secretly by by the dark of night instead of light of day, you know, da-da-da.
You know the speech, right?
He ends up dead.
So that's interesting.
And then we kind of just ignore it, gloss over it.
There's also some weird connections to Israel in 9-11, right?
I mean, uh you go through the list.
And then, and then of course you have you know, APAC, and then you have all the influence operations.
You have Nanyahoo talking about openly wanting to do these uh influence operations.
It is what it is, right?
It's not like I'm gonna get up every day and just you know, obsess over it because there are plenty of countries.
China's another example, you know, they're influence operations everywhere.
They had freaking Confucius Institutes in every college across America practically running influence operations, trying to sow and disseminate communism.
They're doing it still through the internet and and other places.
They I mean, like, so it's not just Israel.
And there are other smaller, you know, Chen de Aragua, you got, you know, Venezuelan foreign national gangs running amuck through the United States.
You got I mean, so it's like there's a lot of things.
There are a lot of things.
It's not just Israel.
But at the same time, it it's strange that Israel keeps coming up, and I can't help but notice it and think, okay, well, yeah, maybe Israel is running influence operations.
They say they are.
I mean, then Yahoo was just sitting down with uh a bunch of influencers the other day saying, hey, you know, we gotta figure out how to, you know, get these influence operations going through social media.
We gotta get better at it.
We could get better at, you know, all this.
And amongst that, Israel's got its own problems with wars and you know, the Gaza thing, people call it genocide.
It's a war, it's crazy.
People getting murdered.
Lots of evil things happening on both sides, you're seeing, I mean, clearly.
And then when people talk about Israel here, I mean, it's like what what is sort of some of these prominent sort of pro Israel pro Zionist people say, oh, well, you know, Tucker Carlson's Qatari funded, Candace Owens, Qatari funded, it's Qatar.
Qatar.
It's like that uh it's like the old Star Trek movie.
Come, you know, it's Qatar.
Qatar is the it's all Qatar.
I do I know a lot about Qatar?
No.
I know we have a major base there.
I know that.
Probably one of the biggest bases in the Middle East, US.
I know Qatar is you know, one of those oil rich Middle Eastern countries, sort of propped up by the US to a degree.
But Qatar You know.
If you if I say Israel, you say Qatar.
Israel, Qatar, Israel, Qatar.
You know?
It's like maybe, just maybe.
Now I'm thinking out loud here.
Maybe people are looking at things and asking questions.
I mean, we should uh I'm equally interested to know about Qatari funding things as I am about Israel funding things.
It's like a point of deflection.
It's like you criticize me?
Qatar, buddy.
How about Qatar, buddy?
Okay, I d I don't no, I don't want Qatar funding it.
I don't want Israel funding it.
Somebody, I mean, it what how about America?
Anyway, I I think we have a caller.
Perhaps is our good friend Blake from Arizona.
Blake, are you there?
Yes, sir, it is the Blake.
Uh huh.
I thought this was Qatar.
Is this Qatar calling to this is Qatar calling you?
Oh god.
Yeah.
Um, you know, during the No No Kings protest, there was a shooting in Salt Lake City, uh, which is interesting.
And also the only thing that I can come up with if it I don't think anybody, well, there might be someone that's believing the the narrative about um the Charlie Kirk shooting, but Remington used to make something called the accelerator round, which was basically made them in 30 odd six, 308 and 3030.
It was a Sabbath round, which means there's a plastic cup, um, so you can use a lighter weight bullet.
And um they loaded a 30 odd six with a 50 grain pointed soft nose bullet that went, I think it was 4,000 feet per second.
But um that's the only thing that I can come up with were if you shot a 30 odd six with somebody and hit them in the neck.
Um I I don't know if i if a human net can stop that bullet or not, but um anyway, there's a lot of things going on, and uh who whoever is in back of it alone is gun shooter or uh uh a state.
Uh I I'm not buying the the official narrative.
Um and that's I think what people are questioning, you know.
We know that they're not telling or being transparent what they like to say.
But what uh what could it be?
So instead of saying the truth, they do what they do all the time, and uh we'll give them that.
So give them another lie.
I heard about the bat the round you're talking about, and I've heard that there was a a clip from I think it was InfoWars.
They had somebody call in and they were talking about this round that they used to make that's illegal now that was basically kind of what you described, so you could load a lower uh a lower calibal round into the the 306, you know, case and it Was uh I think like a two it was the guy was a fur trader or f fur trapper and he used to use it on for killing the fur because it you wanted a high power round that would shoot a low-grain bullet so it wouldn't bl you know blow a hole in the
fur.
And I think they made them illegal for whatever reason, so you can't get them anymore, but they are still out there, so it would be possible that you know you could have a 306 round with a 22 caliber, you know, bullet in it.
And uh so I don't know.
But I I'm not like an expert on firearms by any means.
I mean, I I like to shoot guns.
I like to, I'm a pretty good shot, you know.
Uh but I'm not that sound sounded plausible to me is what you said sounded plausible to me too, perhaps.
Um yeah.
Some rifles shot that round real well.
Some of them didn't shoot it um very well at all.
Uh but it it was a Sabbath round, which is still in use.
A lot of muzzle loaders use Sabbath rounds, and I think the military uses them in tank rounds because of the velocity.
You increase the velocity um.
But um that's the only thing that I can come up with.
Uh, or uh a reloaded round that is basically doing the same thing, only really reduced.
So why would you do that?
Um anyway.
Yeah, the the old Remington accelerator out.
There you go.
Uh again.
That all sounds very plausible.
But there are still so many other things, even if you take the round out of the equation.
So I I guess that's uh where we're gonna keep going here.
Thanks for calling.
Got anything else.
No, sir.
Have a great day.
God bless, brother.
Thanks for calling.
God bless you, bud.
Bye.
That was interesting.
I I think Blake made a lot of good points there.
Um and sort of to go back through to the whole thing that we're talking about here with with you know Candace and what she's been saying.
I guess uh when we come back, I'll play the clip of her explaining sort of her what what she believes or what she's says she knows to be true.
And now I'll let you guys decide.
But again, I'm I you know you can look at all the funding, you can look at all the stuff and where people get money from.
But if I had like a guest, I think a lot of it is you know, maybe unbonounced to some of these people.
You know, a subsidiary of a subsidiary makes a donation or buys advertising or something, you know, oh they're Qatari.
I don't know.
Or they're Israeli, oh no.
I don't know.
Make on Matthew, she dances water as fun.
We'll we'll talk about more when we come back.
Stay tuned.
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Pull a gun on the owner of a liquor store.
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Welcome back to Just Form Talk Radio.
I am your host, Craig James.
And I wanted to play this clip of Candace Owens, right?
And and here's the thing.
I'm gonna let you guys decide what you think for yourselves.
But this is what she's saying, and it's an interesting clip.
Let's just listen to it.
And I don't know how the executives over at Turning Point USA sleep at night.
Okay.
I don't know how you can present yourselves as a Christian organization and not be dedicating yourself to the truth.
No matter what the cost is, you tell the truth.
That's it.
Okay.
You don't high hide it.
You don't try to obfuscate it.
You don't try to say, well, wait until wait until the m the memorial events before we start looking into who murdered him.
You tell the truth and you tell it immediately.
And I don't think they're capable of doing that.
And I have an idea as to why that is.
I think the same people that were pressuring Charlie are pressuring them.
In fact, I know that for a fact.
So they might need my help.
Okay.
I'm gonna state this.
And um, I'm gonna challenge Turning Point USA executives to issue a very clean statement saying that I am lying if this is not true.
About 48 hours before Charlie Kirk died, Charlie informed people at Turning Points, as well as Jewish donors and a rabbi that he had no choice but to abandon the pro-Israel cause outright.
Okay, Charlie was done.
He said it explicitly that he refused to be bullied anymore by the Jewish donors.
Did you can you guys answer?
Did he express that?
Um did he also express that he wanted to bring me Candace Owens back because he was standing up for himself, and then did he just 48 hours later conveniently catch a bullet to the throat before our on stage reunion could happen?
It's a yes or a no.
Okay.
Let's stop this ditching, let's not the dodging.
Let's like explicitly I want to hear from Turning Point USA that I'm lying about that.
I want you to say no, no, it was just um, you know, he was feeling a little bit of pressure.
No, I want you to literally answer what I have just said.
It either happened or it didn't.
I'm either making it all up or it happened exactly as I'm saying.
And while we're at it, may I ask, what is the name of the Jewish donor who sponsored the Hamptons weekend?
Okay, and to Pastor Rob McCoy.
Um were there any LLCs that you or your son were being paid uh through that sat outside of turning point.
I'm asking that question genuinely.
Yeah, I'm putting the fire here right at the feet Of turning point because I am disgusted.
I am genuinely disgusted.
I am looking around and wondering whether Charlie's entire life was the Truman show.
None of you guys are behaving in the way that you should be behaving, okay?
There is no way you are letting these lies fly, unless, as I am hearing.
Unless it is true that there was a big, big, big payday that was on the line.
And if Charlie radically stated that he was done with Israel, if if Charlie said he had no choice but to abandon the pro-Israel cause because of, and I quote Jewish donors, the behavior of Jewish donors, if he said that, yes or no, well then I don't know.
Maybe maybe some people didn't want to take that risk that he was kind of what?
Become Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson at Turning Point USA with all of those uh presences, uh so much presence across college campuses.
Maybe they didn't want to take the chance.
You see, I'm just one person, so it's easy to just try to cancel my life and lie on me every second of every day.
But turning point USA, I think got a little bit bigger than Charlie, and I'm no longer gonna allow this lie, Inmis Narrative.
So answer the questions, yes or no.
And I'm going to again challenge you to lie.
And uh, if you do lie, I'm gonna expose the lies, and I'm gonna start dropping videos, actually.
So that's where I'm at.
Enough of the gains, enough with trying to allow Israel to wrangle a narrative that you know is not true.
Charlie did not die pro-Israel, he'd not die for Israel, he did not martyr himself as a friend of Israel.
In fact, the friends of Israel were pressuring him really badly, and he was done, and he finally stood for himself.
And I'm proud of that.
And I will say this, you know what?
Somewhere Charlie is watching, okay?
And I hope he knows that uh we are reunited.
Okay, we're on stage right now, and the Jewish donors are very angry about it, extremely angry about it.
But it feels good to know that in the end, truth is going to win.
So I mean, look.
You can feel what you want about this, uh however you want about this.
Uh say what you want.
But she seems to be adamant in her belief that this is not only true, but she has proof that it is true, so she is directly challenging TPUSA to deny it, claiming that she will then be able to disprove their, you know, or refute their f their claims of um, you know, that this is not true.
And and look, what do I know, right?
What do I know at the end of the day when it comes to all of this?
What do I know at the end of the day when it comes to all of this?
I do know that.
I don't know.
I mean, what is Candace some Qatari agent?
They all say.
It doesn't seem likely.
It does not seem likely.
But who knows?
Maybe she's she's uh agent of Qatar.
You know, Qatar has a pretty comprehensive and vast uh organization over there.
But there are other things that she is pointing out that are weird happening at TP USA.
Uh just one small example is this.
Let's listen.
That are not adding up to me.
Okay.
There are also, I do want to say this, too many first times leading up to this event.
Okay.
One person who emailed me uh said, hey, I've been supplying bulletproof vests to Charlie or all of these campus tours, and suddenly last semester, last spring, the last campus tour, they canceled.
They canceled my contract with them.
They did not want to renew.
When I asked them why, they told me that Charlie wanted to go a different direction by getting an army vest instead, like a metal army vest, I believe, is what he says.
And he said this made no sense to me.
I didn't understand it.
Okay.
So Charlie decided that they decided to use a new company, even though I don't think he was actually wearing bullet vest on that day.
So what happened there that are not adding up to me, okay?
That's another weird thing.
It's just a lot of weird things.
And look, Charlie, I don't know.
There is there is a line of logic there that's undeniable.
And whether it's true or not, I don't know.
But there is a line of logic that this happened.
And then you go, wow, how did they do this, right?
I don't know if it's the lavalier mic exploding, you know, you have weird, you know, abil capabilities with certain things.
Like um.
But that seems less plausible to me, especially given the nature of the venue in which he was killed, which is, you know, sitting in front of 2,000, 3,000 people.
I mean, with all with cameras, all with different angles.
I mean, you are really risking it wildly by doing that, because the lav mic, if that were some sort of assassination device like the pagers, you know, that Israel's so proud of, the pagers that blew up and killed all the Hamas terrorists that they say were terrorists.
Um that would be risky, so probably not that.
The lone gunman theory works.
Uh maybe maybe the shot from behind works, I don't know, but then you have to ask yourself, you know, is it plausible that they could have radicalized somebody?
Could there be two shooters?
I mean, I've heard special forces guys go on and say, hey, you know, if I were gonna do this, I would have a patsy on the roof.
I'd be somewhere else nearby taking the actual shot.
I walk away, that guy gets caught.
Something to that effect.
So I I don't know.
What if the FBI is looking into any of this?
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And you know, I'm look, I'm not even gonna say that I'm trying to get up every day and look for this stuff.
I'm just it's what's notice I'm just noticing what's happening here and saying, okay, this is interesting.
So, you know, there are a lot of people who who very much support Israel, and that's you're right, I guess.
But here's an interesting thing.
So former Trump campaign manager Brad Parscale was just hired by Israel.
And uh basically his contract is to target Gen Z audiences with content creators and to create pro-Israel content.
Right?
It's a six million dollar contract, and this is uh Netanyahu talking about sort of this effort i in general.
Listen to this Christian uh influencers, okay.
He said uh we talked about the woke right, and he said I call it the woke reich.
That's a brilliant woke right, because these people, you know, they're not any different from the woke uh left.
I mean, they're they're insane.
They're the reason.
But they're actually meeting on some of the things.
And what we have to do is we have to secure that part of our the base of our support in the United States that is being challenged systematically.
A lot of this is done with money.
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Okay.
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How do we fight back?
Our influencers.
I think you should also talk to them if you have a chance.
To that uh that community, they're very important.
And secondly, we're gonna have to uh use the tools of battle.
You know, the the weapons change over time.
You can't fight today with uh swords, that doesn't work very well, okay.
And you can't find with uh fight with cavalry that doesn't work very well.
And you have these new things, you know, like drones, things like that.
I won't get into that.
But we have to fight with the weapons that uh apply to the battlefields within which we're engaged, and the most important ones are the social media, and the most important purchase that is going on right now is classic.
TikTok.
TikTok number one.
Number one.
And I hope it goes through because it's uh it can be consequential.
And the other one, what's the other one that's most important?
X. X. Very good.
And you know, so we have to talk to the lot.
He's not an enemy.
He's a friend.
We should talk to him.
Now, if we can get those two things, we get a lot, and I could go on on other things, but that's not the point right now.
We have to fight the fight.
Okay.
To take give direction to the Jewish people and give direction to our non-Jewish friends, or those who could be our Jewish uh our friends.
Are we gonna succeed with everyone?
No.
Will there be a strong kind of yes?
Well, I mean, that's that's a bit on the nose.
TikTok's gonna be great for Israel.
Why is that really?
Is it because Larry Ellison has been assigned to own it and you know he's a pro-Israel guy?
Maybe.
I mean, that seems like and then and then to what end do they control want control social media?
Well, to censor people who don't say favorable things about Israel.
Now look, I'm not gonna I don't like get up every day and go, oh man, we should really be bashing Israel.
No, not at all.
As a matter of fact, I think Israel has every right to be Israel, to do whatever Israel wants to do.
You know, to for their own sake.
You know what I mean?
Because that's the right of every country.
Now you can get into some really dark places when you get into the whole like war in Gaza, ethnic cleansing type stuff that's going on there.
Lots of you know, taking that territory, claiming it, seizing it, whatever you want to say, and then just getting rid of everybody living there.
You but then you get into this, you know, very long war that's been happening for a very long time between you know, Jews and Muslims and Christians and and who's battling those wars now.
This is the same factions to a degree.
But I mean at the end of the day, I mean that's when I say that they're saying that this is what they're doing, they're doing it.
It's a reason why some of these guys, you know, and and for whatever it's worth, I'm sure that you know, Chris DeGaulle or whoever, you know, they like Israel and they believe in Israel, and that's great.
You know, good for you.
You're an American.
You have that right.
Perfect.
But I mean, when you start going out and saying everything that any critique of Israel is anti-Semitic and ADL, and you're like, uh basically agreeing with the ADL that you know there's this woke right, which the woke right apparently just means you know, you're not entirely pro-Israel on every uh accord.
You don't fall ideologically locked, step in with Netanyahu.
Then and supporting whatever, you know, wars are going on there.
Then I then that's dangerous.
And then the ADL says Christian identity is anti-Semitic.
Oh, really?
So identifying as a Christian makes me an anti-Semite now.
Hmm.
That's funny.
It's funny how that that really changes so quickly.
So I, you know, look.
We're in a very crazy time, I would say.
And you know, it's funny that they hired this Brad Parscale guy.
He was like, he had a he had a mental breakdown, I recall, after I think after he left the Trump campaign.
There was that whole episode he had at his house, you know, uh something he was running around having a mental breakdown, cops came, it was all like on social media for a minute.
And now he's working for Israel.
That's interesting.
Not saying those two things are related at all.
But I mean, look, this is and this is one of the things I have disagreed with Trump on from day one.
All this crap about, oh, you know, anti-Semitism and and you know, disintegrating free speech on that basis is ridiculous.
Not that I would choose to be anti-Semitic ever, but I would say that if somebody wants to say it, I should they should have that right so that I can, and if I disagree, I should be able to counter them with with what I believe.
Not shut them down and throw them in jail for speech.
That's not gonna be uh good.
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And you know, look, there are so many weird things that keep popping up in regard to all of this.
For instance, here's another one.
Candace Owens uh talking about the guy who took down the camera, because usually they live stream these events as far as I know.
And uh just listen to what she said.
She talked to the guy who removed that camera, I guess, or pulled the SD cards out after the shooting.
Which was a weird move.
And I and I heard this explained on the Charlie Kirk show by uh what's that guy's name?
The guy who's now he was the CEO and now he's the head or one of the heads, I guess, with Erica.
But anyway, he said that the guy like took the the SD cards out because people were stealing hats and stuff, and he thought they were gonna steal that footage and put it online or something, and that the footage now the FBI has it.
And I and I like Cash, I like Dan.
And and but I mean, oh great, the FBI has it.
I won't hold my breath, see that get out.
Um I don't know, but but here's an interesting comment from Candace on that.
Then I speak to the individual who I told you guys that I recognized and had taken down the cameras minute, what was it, minute four after Charlie was shot, the back camera of all the ones, wouldn't you take the front camera?
I don't know.
Again, I'm not here uh to read into how people might act in an emergency event.
But I thought it was weird that he was there in general, actually, that he was behind Charlie the entire time.
I've never seen that.
He's never been behind me at an event, he's never been lingering around me at an event.
And I asked about that.
I asked about just his presence behind Charlie and plus the mysterious phone call that he was seen making in like a minute three after Charlie uh was assassinated, and he told me explicitly that they were trying something new that day.
Like it was something new, Charlie's super ambitious, and on the A V thing, they were trying something new, and they wanted to be able to feed it back instantly to Arizona.
None of it makes sense to me because these events are typically live streamed, but again, something new.
Okay.
Well, something new.
A lot of new things being tried that day.
And and look, uh this whole thing, the more I've tried I try to take my time with stuff, let the facts sort of lay out, and then follow the facts where they lead.
And I don't try to get ahead of it, you know, speculating.
You know, I don't automatically assume I know you know the truth off of one piece of information.
There were a lot of people talking about private jets and things that day, which still, I mean, all that needs to get flushed out too.
Because we're not sure about all of it, but I do know that the idea, some I think Candace was saying this, and it is an interesting thought.
I never crossed my mind.
But the idea that this guy, for all intents and purposes, this Tyler Robinson had never been to Utah Valley State or Utah Valley University.
And that He just shows up and knows how to get to the roof, knows how to get to the only spot where you could basically take the shot that he took.
Or make the shot that he took.
Allegedly.
And all of those things.
That's that's a weird thing that I never thought about.
Like if I dropped you, if I took you over to whatever, uh a university you've never been to before.
You think you know how to get on the roof?
And where to be on the roof and everything?
I don't know.
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So, you know, there's that.
Apparently, Democrats want that, you know, illegal alien health care, which I agree that you know, if if you're at a hospital and somebody shows up who's dying.
And this is not even about that, but I mean I agree in principle that you know, if somebody's really sick and hurt and they show up at a hospital, yes, you should give them care.
And yeah, that's sort of what a social welfare net is created for.
And, you know, if they're here illegally or not, you know, we're not gonna let you die on the doorstep.
Right.
But what's happened is that that this has just been abused so egregiously.
Where, you know, I'll give you an example, right?
For instance.
I went to uh I used to live in California, and you know it's like illegal alien Central, kind of like Colorado, almost the same, right?
And you know, I remember I had to go to the emergency room once.
I show up, and it's the entire waiting room was just filled with people who were clearly not here legally.
You know, not a word of English was being spoken.
And they were there for and they were there for like, you know, stuff that you would go to urgent care for, but they were in the emergency room.
Why?
Because they weren't here legally, and they knew that if they go to the emergency room, they have to be treated and that the taxpayers pay for it.
Right?
No questions asked.
And so they treat it like, you know, their their doctor's office.
They're there and and I asked, I think I'd had a conversation with one of the nurses about it, and you know, because she seemed like she was maybe a little conservative, more friendly to it.
And she's like, yeah, it's crazy.
These people come in and you know, it's like they they treat the emergency room like their standard or whatever, you're your um primary care physician, you know?
Like you have a doctor you go to, they just go to the emergency room.
Because they know it's gonna be free.
This is I guess one of other one of the things that they're they're getting into on this, the health care to illegal aliens.
And that, and that's what healthcare to illegal aliens really comes down to, right?
It's like standardizing this practice of you know, people who aren't here legally just exploiting the system in an egregious way where it's beyond humanitarian, right?
It's not that again, if you show up to the hospital and you're dying, like, yeah, take them in, fix them, heal them, do whatever you do.
Nobody wants to see people suffer in that way.
But you will exhaust the resources of the system if you allow anyone from anywhere anytime to just get free health care all the time, no matter what.
Regardless of whether or not you believe it's a human right, right, or whatever.
There's just not enough resource to, and and this is where you know you get into the mindset of the communist, the mindset of the socialist, the mindset of liberal is like, oh, well, you know, we'll just print more money and it's all fine, we got plenty of money, who cares?
It's like giving, you know, a drunk guy a credit card at a casino, a drunk gambling addict, a you know, credit card at a casino, and saying, Oh, by the way, you know, there's you know, you can take cash out uh against your credit card if you're if you're really interested.
Of course they're gonna go take cash out against it.
I mean, it's like, oh, by the way, you know, if you show up to the hospital and you're not here legally, you know, we have to treat you for free.
And who's gonna pay for it?
Well, you know, we have plenty of money, don't worry.
Who's we?
Well, you know, the collective we, the Americans, the country.
You know, look at, you know, government.
The government pays for it.
Well, who who how does the government get money to pay for things?
I don't know.
I don't know.
How do they do that?
How does the government get money to pay for things?
Anybody know that?
Oh, taxation.
They tax us and take our money.
Huh.
That's like their logic ends before that part, usually.
They run out of runway there pretty quick.
They're they're like, government.
Who's gonna pay for it?
Well, the government.
Government's got plenty of money.
Well, where the hell do you think the government gets the money from, buddy?
Just appears out of nowhere, we just keep well, we do print it, but then the banks lend it back to us.
How great.
Yeah, that's a wonderful system.
Um, let's hear what uh Pence had to say about it.
Well, we'll play a couple not Pence.
Jeez.
Gee whiz.
Pence.
I said Geez, by the way, not I don't use the Lord's name in vain.
Um, but G Wiz, right?
JD Vance.
Vance and Pence, you gotta admit, it's kind of similar names.
Kinda.
But JD Vance had something to say about interestingly enough.
We'll listen to that when we come back.
Among other things, I'd like to finally play the 9-11 dog that a friend of mine uh go through and do a little editing on that so that we can listen to it so that it's radio friendly.
And maybe we'll play that too when we come back.
Because I've been wanting to listen to it.
The flags go down.
The fans get up.
Kind of do like a live commentary on it.
Except for one man's killing.
Todd Carlson's documentary on 9 11.
It's a multiple part series.
Which I've heard is quite interesting.
But he's driving and driving and maybe we'll do that too.
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Your host, Craig James, and I did want to play this clip.
This was uh J.D. Vance on the government shutdown.
Just uh let's hear what he has to say.
This is a Democrat talking point.
They say we're not actually trying to give health care benefits to illegal aliens, and here's why it's not true.
There are two Biden-era programs that explicitly gave the taxpayer health care money to illegal aliens that we turned off when President Trump took over uh in January.
Program number one is there's a lot of emergency health care at hospitals that are provided to illegal aliens.
That was funded by the federal government.
We turned off that funding because of course we want American citizens to benefit from those hospital services, not to be taxed and then to have those hospital services go to illegal aliens.
The second of which is the Biden administration gave mass parole to millions upon millions of illegal aliens, and then they simultaneously made those parolees eligible for health care benefits funded by taxpayers.
In the one big beautiful bill, President Trump and Congressional Republicans turned off that money to health care funding for illegal aliens.
The Democrats want to turn it back on.
And in their initial proposal, the first thing that they put out to reopen the government, they actually turned that money for health care benefits for illegal aliens back on.
So it's not something that we made up.
It's not a talking point.
It is in the text of the bill that they initially gave to us to reopen the government.
It's preposterous for them to run away from it now.
But look, let's set that all to the side.
Let's open up the government.
Let's negotiate on all these health care policy issues.
Obviously, we're not going to support health care benefits for illegal aliens, but we will work with them to lower health care costs for American citizens if they're willing to do so.
This is a Yeah, I mean, that's kind of exactly what I was explaining.
You know, the whole emergency room as primary care physician for illegals.
I mean, this is what they were taught to do and just go to the emergency room.
You scrape your knee, go to the emergency room.
You have a, you know, you have a slight cough, emergency room, you know, sprain your elbow, emergency room.
And it's all free.
And you don't get charged.
And then what and and and again, it's not even that I don't like if they're really seriously hurt, yeah, go to the emergency room, whatever.
I mean, I don't think people should be turned away if they're like on desk door.
You know.
But what ended up happening, I mean, I'm I had a great example.
I went, the why it was wild.
You know, and I know they sort of triage patients a little bit, but I was having a very uh severe problem, let's say, and I needed pretty immediate help, and I ended up having to wait because there were so many people there.
That obviously, again, we're illegals using the hospital as a sort of workaround to receive free health care and to use it like a prime.
It was like a doctor's office there.
You know, you had families sitting in the waiting room at the emergency room.
You know, uh clearly like some kid with the sniffles waiting to get treated by the doctor.
Clearly not legal, it would seem, at least.
Because who who would take their kid to that you know, place in that way.
That's sort of uh sort of my opinion on the whole thing.
But yeah, so you get the idea.
So there's a lot more going on here.
We can get into all of it.
I wanted to get into some other interesting stories, by the way.
Since we got you here.
Speaking of illegals, this illegal superintendent in Des Moines.
Somehow, don't ask me how, but this guy, Ian Roberts, is he somehow became the superintendent of Des Moines public school system, making over $300,000 a year.
And he was just arrested by ICE because he's literally been in the country illegally for a very long time.
So any thoughts?
Any thoughts, people out there?
Uh uh here's the breakdown of the story, a little bit of the breakdown.
Listen to this.
We are learning new details about Des Moines Public School Superintendent, Dr. Ian Roberts.
He was detained by ICE agents last Friday, September 26th.
According to ICE officials, an immigration judge issued an order of removal for May of it, 2024.
According to ICE officials, Dr. Roberts came to the U.S. on a student visa in 1999.
Now today I dug through Iowa courts and public records and found that Dr. Roberts had received two speeding tickets.
One in 2023 and another in 2024.
Both of these came after Dr. Roberts started as a DMPS superintendent.
Now Iowa law states that you must apply for an Iowa driver's license within 30 days of moving to the state.
Now, interestingly enough, both of these speeding tickets listed different Maryland addresses for Dr. Roberts.
Of course, I also used his name to look him up on the Maryland Board of Elections website and found that in 2017, he was registered to vote.
Of course, only people who are U.S. citizens are allowed to vote in U.S. elections.
This is a story we will continue to follow and try to provide answers as we work together more information.
So the leftists are losing their mind.
They're protesting, saying we love Dr. Roberts.
He's the best.
And we know we demand he be released.
The guys here illegally overstayed a visa.
That story sounded familiar.
And literally is voting in elections, it seems.
But I guess we're all just crazy conspiracy theorists, you know, when we talk about this stuff.
So that's that's always interesting.
Um they just came out, interestingly enough.
The uh what is this?
I want to play this.
The DHS had an investigation called Operation Twin Shield, which uncovered that 50% of immigrants committed immigration fraud in Minnesota.
I mean, we got an immigration problem here, folks.
Listen to this.
Since September 19th, officers from our fraud detection and National Security Directorate working in teams have conducted over a thousand site visits across the Minneapolis-St.
Paul area as part of this operation.
What they found should shock all of America.
Focusing on a list of over a thousand target cases involving more than 900 individuals.
Our officers encountered blatant marriage fraud, visa overstays, people claiming to work at businesses that can't be found, forged documents, abuse of the H1B visa system, abuse of the F-1 visas, and many other discrepancies.
Over the course of the operation, our officers found indication of fraud, noncompliance, or public safety and national security concerns in nearly a little less than 50% of the cases interviewed.
Since September 19th.
Wow.
I mean that that's no big deal, though.
You could throw a rock in Minnesota and end up, you know, at landing close to somebody who's committed immigration fraud, it seems, or is a national security threat.
Concern.
Oh no.
I mean, I mean, like, and that's the thing when it's like, well, is it Israel?
Or is and then the and then the Israeli influencers are like it's the Muslims.
And I'm like sitting here as an American being like, uh, I I don't want either.
Thank you.
Can we equally say that we don't want, you know, Israel intervening in on behalf of America and interfering in American politics and you know, garnering huge amounts of favor and and um, you know currying huge amounts of favor within the government,
and as equally as we don't want, you know, these people from these Muslim countries coming here and you know, enforcing Sharia law on our streets and doing the call to prayer at 5 30 a.m. in over a loudspeaker in in American neighborhoods.
I don't want any of those things, actually.
Qatar!
It's Qatar, I tell you.
Qatar's behind it all.
Those damn Qataris.
Excuse my language.
Got them now, boys.
All right, listen.
We're gonna play this Tucker Carlson clip.
Thankfully, we got an edited one here.
So let's play it.
I want to I want to listen to this 9-11 files, episode one, Tucker Carlson, Qatar, the Qatari agent.
Tucker Carlson, or as Mark Levin calls him.
What does he call him?
Tucker Katarlson.
Clever.
You gotta give credit where it's due.
Khatarlson here on the 9-11.
Let's listen.
For 24 years now, politicians, the media, intel agencies in this country and abroad have all demanded that you believe the official story about 9-11.
And here's what it is.
They tell you a group of Al Qaeda-affiliated terrorists, many of whom were known to U.S. Intel services, somehow managed to evade capture for years as they planned the most significant and elaborate terror attack in human history.
We're told that despite repeated encounters with the FBI, the CIA, local law enforcement, airport security, foreign intel organizations, the right information somehow never made it to the right people.
The government failed because it just didn't have the intelligence it needed.
That's the story.
That story is a lie.
Nearly 25 years later, the families of 3,000 civilians are still mourning the murder of their loved ones.
Anyone who doubts the official narrative is cast as a kook, a criminal, a fringe conspiracy theorist, and punished.
They've been blacklisted and censored and banned.
Even as the leaders who failed to protect our country on 9-11 use these attacks as a pretense to expand their own powers and permanently transform the United States.
None of this is speculation.
All of it is true.
Over the course of this series, you will hear accounts from people who lived it.
CIA officers and analysts who were there, FBI agents from the Bin Laden unit, family members of the victims.
None of these people are kooks.
All of them have firsthand information.
What they'll tell you is that what you have been told about September 11th is not true.
Why are we doing this?
Our purpose is in part to make the strongest possible case for a real investigation into 9-11, 25 years later.
A new 9-11 commission, one that is honest, one that is not guided by partisan political interests, one that is not serving foreign powers.
To do this investigation, we spent many months looking into what actually happened and speaking to people who saw it.
We poured over thousands of pages of documents, mostly primary sources, but also contemporaneous news reports and declassified government documents.
Over the course of this investigation, we made numerous findings that shocked us, not least of which the apparent role that former CI Director John Brennan played in helping bring the 9-11 hijackers to the United States, and the remarkable lengths the CIA went to to protect the 9-11 hijackers from the FBI and from domestic law enforcement.
Telling the full story requires starting before the attacks, going back to something called Alec Station, that was the CI's bin Laden unit in 1999.
My name is Mark Rossini.
I'm a former FBI agent.
So from January 1999 to May of 2003, I was the FBI New York Joint Terrorism Task Force representative to Alex Station at CIA headquarters.
Before 9-11.
There were no sources in Al Qaeda.
None.
There was a group of Pashtun caretakers, okay, they called them the Trot Pints.
Trot Pints were these Pashtun people that were Bin Laden's tea boys and tea gals, right?
And they were the great source of the Pakistani Intel service.
That was feeding information from the Trod Pints to I to the ISI to the CIA about what was going on in Al Qaeda.
They had all the electronic communication satellite in the world, imagery.
I remember looking at images of bin Laden, you know, in his courtyard, all I fine.
But what's in his head?
What's he saying?
What she's doing.
These people are 10,000 miles away.
They don't give a sh about America.
I don't care about going to jail.
They want to die.
How are you going to get a source inside there?
Before September 11th, U.S. Intel Services got most of the back.
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We're going back to Tucker Katarlson's 9-11 documentary.
Um saying that tongue in cheek, folks, calm down.
But uh let's keep listening.
Intelligence on bin Laden from what was called the Hada Home switchboard in Sana Yemen.
That was a communications hub that bin Laden and his associates used to communicate with each other.
They were at the time living in Yemen.
The FBI gained access to this after the 1998 embassy bombings in East Africa.
How did we officially get the Hada home in Sana Yemen on the books on the radar, if you will?
Okay.
Nairobi, 1998, August 7th.
John Antisef, Special Agent John Antisef, greatest FBI agent ever in the FBI, even better than me.
John flies over to Afgh to Nairobi.
And one of the survivors, one of the perpetrators who chickened out and ran and lived, Daoud Rashida Lawali.
Saudi, he gets captured by the Kenyan police.
John flies over from New York, and already there have been two FBI agents interviewing Daood.
They were getting someplace, but they really weren't getting that far.
Right?
John walks in.
And first thing he does, says, You need some water.
And you want to drink?
Did you did you eat today?
Did you pray?
Are you okay?
Yeah, I'm fine, I'm fine, I'm fine, inside.
He said, just just relax.
Just just let's have a chat.
He didn't beat him with a phone book.
He didn't f and waterboardroom.
He didn't pull his fingernails out.
He wasn't Mr. Tough Guy, like all these f calls like Dick Cheney want to believe, right?
All pieces of shit.
He talked to him like a human being.
Take me through the day.
Talk to me.
Well, I went to the hotel and I got my stuff ready.
And did you did you call anybody?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I called this number.
And he wrote it down.
And he gave John the number of the Hadahome in Sana Yemen, which was the Al-Qaeda switchboard that we in the FBI had no fing clue existed up until that point.
CIA and NSA did, because remember, they had been listening to the Nairobi cell and their activity since 1996.
We and the FBI didn't know about that number.
The Hadahome wasn't just a communications hub for Al Qaeda.
It was the physical home of the father-in-law of Khalid Al-Medhar, one of the future 9-11 hijackers.
At the end of 1999, listening to that phone is when the CIA learns and the NSA learns that Khalila Medhar is going to be traveling from there to Dubai, and then from Dubai onward to Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, to meet the summit.
The summit was a meeting of an operational cadre of Al-Qaeda affiliated terrorists from around the world.
And he was scheduled to travel on or about January 5th, 2000.
The NSA has the ability, did and probably still has to get any plane airplane reservation at once in the world and know about it.
We knew his passport number, we had the phone, we have everything.
So we knew his travel information.
We knew what flights he was taking.
CIA arranges for when he gets to Dubai to be secondary.
Okay, not fully questioned, but you know, talk to him a little bit.
And then he goes to his hotel room and they arrange to search his room and go in.
And when they go in, his passport is there, and they take pictures of it, a photocopy it.
And they send back the imagery.
And lo and behold, in his passport is a visa to go to the United States of America.
Issued out of the American consulate in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia.
According to one recently released court filings, quote, the visas were issued to facilitate an operation run by the Saudis and the CIA spying operation.
The station chief in Riyadh at the time was future CIA director John Brennan.
The CIA continued tracking Al Minhar to Kuala Lumpur, where he met up with other Al-Qaeda associates, including Nawaf Al-Hazmi, a second future 9-11 hijacker.
He lands in Kuala Lumpur.
They entrust the Malaysia Special Branch, police, to surveil this terrorist summit in this park in Kuala Lumpur.
And so much so to tail them and surveil them, etc.
And that information ends up in a communication from Kuala Lumpur Station CIA to CIA headquarters to Alex Station to the computer screen of me and Special Agent Doug Miller of Washington Field Office FBI.
You have this cable that lays out the meeting Kuala Lumpur, the photocopying of his passport in Dubai, and the learning of the visa to go to the United States of America.
Doug Miller gets up from his cubicle of power, comes over to my cubicle of power and says, Hey, we gotta tell the FBI about this.
I said, Doug, you damn right.
He goes, I'll write up the CIR.
What is a CIR?
A CIR is what is a central intelligence report.
Doug writes it, he sends it to me.
I approve it, and it goes to the desk of Michael Ann Casey, the CIA officer, analyst.
And it sits in her queue, her electronic queue, and it doesn't move for like A day or two.
It should move in a fing few hours.
I'll never forget, like it was yesterday.
Never forget.
I standing over her.
I said, Hey, Doug's CIR.
She got to go to the FBI.
He said, No, it's not.
I said, Well, why not?
She said, Because it's not FBI, not an FBI matter.
It's not FBI matter.
It's a CIA matter.
And when and if we want the FBI to know, we will tell them.
And you are not to say anything.
I said, but yeah, but they got a visa to come to the U.S. I said, no, we're handling it, and when we want to tell the FBI we will.
And I looked at her.
And you remember she got up, but she put a hands on a hip, pointing a finger at me.
Now, in my naivete, I believed her.
And I have to live with that every day of my life.
I didn't believe her.
As the CIA was blocking the FBI detail from informing the Bureau, the hijackers were moving.
On January 8th, 2000, CIA surveillance teams reported that Almed Har had boarded a flight to Bangkok, Thailand.
He was accompanied by a man they identified as Al Hazmi.
According to the official account, this is where the trail went cold.
The CIA placed their names on a watch list and asked that Thai authorities track their movements.
Three months later, the Thai government reported back.
Al Hazmi had boarded a United Airlines flight to Los Angeles.
Almet Har was with him.
The two hijackers had arrived in the United States.
But here's my problem with this whole f***ing thing and the whole subsequent investigation of 9-11.
You have the CIA then following one man and then two men all over the planet And then eventually even to America, right?
Landing in Los Angeles, California, and you don't tell the FBI.
But why would the CIA want to hide the highly relevant and potentially dangerous fact that two known Al-Qaeda terrorists had just landed in California?
According to a recently released court filing, former White House counter-terrorism, Richard Clark told government investigators that the quote, CIA was running a false flag operation to recruit the hijackers.
When Kofer Black became the head of the counter-terrorism center at CIA, he was aghast that they had no sources in Al-Qaeda.
So he told me, I'm gonna try to get sources in Al-Qaeda.
I can understand them.
Possibly saying we need to develop sources inside Al Qaeda.
When we do that, we can't tell anybody about it.
After Clark made that claim publicly, he received an angry call from former director of the CIA, George Tennant, who did not deny the allegations made by Mr. Clark, end quote.
But we reached out to Tennant, his spokesperson denied that the CIA was recruiting hijackers, calling it false rumors and saying, quote, that's categorically not true.
He also recalled that the executive director of the 9-11 Commission, Philip Zellico, blocked the commission's investigation into the matter at the behest of Condoleezza Rice.
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All right, back to the 9-11 doc.
Let's listen.
Let's listen.
Any minute now.
Any minute now.
I had this delusional grand plan.
So the CIA, with their information that they had from this is the Hada House and their own psychological analysis of everybody in that team.
They figured the best way is maybe to recruit somebody who came over from Malaysia.
Kalila Mirkhar and Nawaf Ahazmi.
We kept the FBI at bay because we told Mark Rasini and Doug Miller to shut the f up.
So let's just try to get inside there.
And that's what went wrong.
That was the grand lie, the grand risk, the grand delusion.
You had a duty to protect Americans, and you failed because of your fing fantastic delusion that you could recruit somebody inside the cell.
The official 9-11 report does not address the CIA's plan to recruit the hijackers.
It's not even mentioned.
It's possible this is because the CIA blocked 9-11 Commission investigators from talking to the agents who participated in the plot.
Amazingly, the CIA's director of operations kept the CIA operative attempting to recruit the hijackers, referred to as VVV in the documents, away from the Commission's investigators.
The consequence of this?
The Commission's explanation for this story is that the CIA made an honest mistake.
The actual language in the report says the CIA played, quote, zone defense, and the FBI had a man-to-man approach to counterterrorism.
The difference in strategies is why the CIA didn't tell the FBI that terrorists had arrived on American soil.
Incredibly, the Commission investigators didn't ask the CIA director at the time, George Tenet, about the summit in Kuala Lumpur, or why the CIA had blocked the FBI from being warned.
"I don't know." It wasn't the story they wanted.
And that is the crutch in the matter, and that is the truth.
And no one has ever answered those questions.
No one has the balls to because they're afraid.
Because the House will come tumbling down.
So how exactly did the CIA try to recruit the 9-11 hijackers?
Well, one amazing thing about their arrival is that they didn't try to hide.
The hijackers used their real names while in the United States.
They operated in plain daylight.
Al Hazmi and Al Midhar lived in San Diego for more than a year before the attacks.
They lived openly.
In fact, they were so open that Hazmi's name, address, and a home phone number were listed in the San Diego phone book.
When they arrived, the hijackers encountered a Saudi intel operative called Omar al-Bayoumi.
They met at a restaurant outside of Los Angeles.
The CIA utilized the Saudis in the form of Omar Abayumi to spy for them and to gather intelligence.
Before 9 11, the CIA was forbidden from engaging in domestic spying.
They used the Saudi intelligence as a workaround.
We'll rely upon the Saudi GID, General Intelligence Directorate, their version of the CIA via Prince Pandar, via their man Omar Abayumi, to keep us informed as to the activity of these terrorists.
Bayoumi's notebook, which was uncovered when British law enforcement raided his home in the UK, contained a drawing of an airplane and mathematical calculations related to flying it.
The 911 Commission investigators never saw this.
At the time, Al Bayumi had a no-show job at a Saudi aviation contractor called AVCO.
The company's employees say he was one of roughly 50 ghost employees working there at the time, taking the paycheck, but never coming to work.
According to the classified government documents, an investigator from the 9-11 Commission said Al Bayumi was receiving substantial sums of money from the Saudi Embassy in Washington prior to the 9-11 attacks.
That the money was being funneled from accounts at Riggs Bank in Georgetown, belonging to Haifa bin Faisal, the wife of the Saudi ambassador to the United States.
By using the Saudis as a proxy to recruit the 9-11 hijackers, the CIA gave itself cover.
If things went wrong, they could push a narrative that blamed the Saudi government for the attacks, which is what they did.
For all intents and purposes, Omar Abayumi was an array uh an employee of the Saudi Arabian Embassy in Washington, D.C. in their consulate in Los Angeles, California.
Al Bayumi convinced the hijackers to move to San Diego.
He helped them find an apartment.
He served as a co-signer on the lease to that apartment.
He paid their first month's rent and deposit.
He got them bank accounts, he got them driver's license.
He introduced them to many other radical Muslims in the area, including the cleric Anwar Alalaki.
Eventually, Al Midhart went home to Yemen.
Khalil Al Midhar leaves America for his daughter's birth, right?
And in that time, he loses his passport.
He claims he went to Afghanistan.
He goes back to Jeddah and gets another passport.
And by this time, even prior, as I understand it now, the Saudis had identified the terrorists, the hijackers, as potential threats to the kingdom and had put chips in their passports identifying them as a threat.
Almirar comes back to the United States, I believe it was on July 4th, 2001.
He's allowed back in, not stopped, not questioned.
So here's a guy that the CIA knew came to America, had been a terrorist summit meeting in Malaysia in January 2000.
He's allowed to leave and come back.
Minhar was able to exit and enter the country at will because he was issued a multi-visit U.S. visa, according to a summary of an interview with an FBI agent from Alex Station, quote, Alhamzi and Albert Har obtained their visas to enter the United States at the American consulate in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, all told the vast majority of the 19th episode two.
And yeah, but the whole story is basically the CIA is behind it.
And then you look at what factors, you know, contributing to the CIA were a part of that.
I don't know.
But all wild stories.
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We're almost broken up the bottom of mouth.
That's who you are.
You brought me to turn my song into a certain day.
And we're just in the sum of me.
I'm a new creation.
I'm a new creation.
Oh, oh, oh, oh.
Oh, oh, oh, oh.
But it rose until I stumbled and made my mistakes.
Yeah, I can know in my soul how.
How amazing was great.
Welcome back to Sforum Talk Radio.
I am your host, Craig James, and we're wrapping it up, and we'll we'll finish it up tomorrow if you guys are interested.
I think it's interesting.
So that's something.
That's worth worth a little bit here.
But uh yeah, it's it's all interesting about what was happening with 9-11, and I'm always interested to hear more facts surrounding it.
Plus, we'll get a little commentary tomorrow's show when we're joined by Nick No, our co-host.
But uh yeah, and to to the people who text in, we're so thankful.
You guys are so great.
Most of you.
Some of you are just, you know, slightly annoying and pretentious, but you know, that's that's to be expected.
You can't win them all.
So to those people, I say, good luck.
And you know, nobody forces anybody to listen to the show.
That's the weird thing.
When people text in and are like, I hate the show and I don't like it.
I'm like, you realize that you don't have to listen to it.
Like, I could care less if you listen to it, to be quite honest.
Uh, but they don't seem to get that because they think the whole world revolves around them and their opinions.
So that's good for them.
I really do I still love those people nonetheless.
We really we really do mean it when we say that.
But you know, we always end each show with scripture.
Today is no different.
And I want to give you guys uh a little bit of a message here that touches on, you know.
The idea that we should not be ashamed of the gospel, right?
And it's always go back to Romans chapter one, verse 16.
And it says for I'm not ashamed of the gospel because it's God's power for salvation to everyone who believes.
First to the Jew and also to the Greek, for in it, God's righteousness is revealed from faith to faith, just as it is written, the righteous will live by faith.
And you know, I I had an interesting account yesterday with uh uh an individual.
You know, I'm not gonna say anything about them or identify them, but we had a very nice conversation, and you know, they're kind of struggling with some things, and they were, you know, sort of wanting to get to a place where they can find that faith again.
And it reminded me of where I've been in my life.
You know, and how there have been points throughout my life where I've had serious doubt, serious struggle, serious, you know, problems that I thought were impossible to overcome.
And you know, maybe you're going through something like that where your life's changing.
Maybe it's you've lost a loved one, um, or you're going through, you know, a difficult breakup, or you're going through a difficult time with your family, and or your difficult time with your career, or all of those things, or some of those things.
I want you to remember that your faith is what will pull you through it.
Your faith in Jesus Christ can pull you through those things.
So if you haven't accepted Jesus as your Lord and Savior, open your heart, say a prayer, call upon his name.
And uh I'm so thankful to everybody out there for listening, supporting the show.
So we're gonna leave it there.
We'll be back tomorrow, God willing, do it all over again with Nick No, our co-host.
But until then, we will see you on the next one.
I'm your host, Craig James is just for one talk radio.
Godspeed, and God bless each and every one of you patriots.
Godspeed, and God bless each and every one of you.
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