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Hey, Craig, thanks for having me again.
It's been a it's a nice sunny, beautiful day, and uh I'm excited to be here.
We got a lot to talk about.
I agree.
I agree.
We have a lot of stories to cover here today.
Of course, one of the big stories is back in the headlines, and I don't know if this is like I'm getting to the point of exhaustion with this story, or if it's just becoming too s like to me, it's it's clearly becoming uh a political football more than anything else, and that is the Jeffrey Epstein saga, which is continuing on, and here we are living through it uh once again.
Um a group of survivors testified in closed door hearings yesterday in front of Congress or victims, and uh they then held a press conference outside of Congress, and the the whole thing could not have been staged better for the political establishment to utilize as a uh a way of forming new uh campaign issues
on which to platform themselves, and and this is something that is wildly interesting, but also as I said pretty exhausting because I mean most people out there are like, yeah, okay, Epstein, we get it.
You know, a lot of people are pissed, like, yeah, we want these people to be arrested.
Let's stop talking about it, let's stop having, you know, these strongly worded letters and congressional hearings where they, you know, basically uh position themselves in jockey for political uh campaign points.
I mean, it's all falling short to me, at least, especially when you look at the individuals involved.
So the two main individuals involved with this campaign are Thomas Massey and Marjorie Taylor Green, and what they're basically doing is they are orchestrating an effort to get the Epstein quote unquote kind client list out, which I've gotten to a point now where what do we expect this?
Let me ask you this, Nick, to start.
Okay.
We'll get into the details of all this in a minute here, and and and Nick, try to try to stay with where we're at instead of jumping, you know, too far ahead, because we're gonna get to the things that you were talking about before the show.
We had a we had a nice pre-meeting about all this.
But just let me ask you this, Nick, and try to keep this again within the realm of the context of what we're talking about specifically here and without jumping into to a head issues that we'll talk about.
What do people actually expect is gonna happen when if if I give you the client list tomorrow, Nick, and it's got all the clients, quote unquote, of Jeffrey Epstein.
Now, what did Jeffrey Epstein do?
What would a client of Jeffrey Epstein be?
It would be somebody who was working with him, presumably, to and what did he do?
He worked at Bear Stearns, and he was basically taking money and offshoring it to obfuscate tax liability for very high-income individuals, right?
And this is what he did at Bear Stearns until he did the SEC violation, which led to him being removed, which then led to him taking on a singular client uh who went by the name of um, what was that guy's name?
Uh the the Saudi reporter's father, who was burned in the Bat of Acid.
Koshogi, right?
Uh I think his name's Shad Kosogi.
Either way, that was his singular client, along with another guy who was working at the Pentagon or with the Pentagon.
So, and what was he doing?
Well, most likely he was helping in the Iran Contra scandal, helping the CIA hide the money that they were using to funnel weapons into Israel that then were sold into uh or through Israel that were then sold to the Contras.
I it's a whole very long thing, right?
Yes, yes.
But let's let's just back up.
If I give you the list tomorrow, Nick, you being the public, you being Congress, you being whoever.
And it's got these people who were clients of his who probably paid him to help them, you know, offshore their their large wealth to obfuscate tax liability in the U.S., probably some Cayman Island banking, some you know, Virgin Island banking, some Swiss banking, whatever, right?
What is that gonna do?
What is that gonna do?
Well, I don't know.
Well, imagine, okay, for drug, let's say you're a person's a drug dealer, they gotta clean the money, right?
They gotta launder it.
And that's as you described what he's doing.
So, what kind of crime maybe those people were involved in crimes that they needed to launder the money.
Um outside of that, I you know, I don't really have anything, you know, because it's not enough information.
Right.
And and so, and presumably, depending on the type of crime, I would imagine almost all those crimes, the statue of limitations has run out on any chance of them being prosecuted.
Unless it uncovers some ongoing conspiracy that's still going on today, which I highly doubt, because you know, at the end of the day, these people would have at least figured out hey, I'm connected to this, maybe I should cover my tracks a little better and switch operations and not do this anymore, so that it's not a continuing conspiracy, right?
Sure.
So that's my first thing about all this.
You know, so we're watching Margit Hill Green and Thomas Massey with this group of Epstein victims, capitalizing on the political, you know, um gain that they will surely receive from the public who are pissed off and being directed into you know, believing that this is the answer to the Epstein, you know, saga.
This is going to be the finale, this is gonna be the grand climax, we're gonna get the list, and then I guess people are gonna be arrested.
Um I'm assuming that's the hope, right?
Well, that's the they're they're they're posturing, but that's probably not going to happen.
If you know, just is we've seen the Epstein client, even I both know this.
Everybody who's been following this is in if they actually sought out the truth.
The Epstein client list has been out there for years and years.
So when they say client list, really what is just his black book of contacts, and it doesn't have any context of what how he knows them, if he does, or if he even does business with them.
Um so, yeah, it's a good thing.
Well, and and that's why I say this is a political football.
And that's why I say also this it ultimately is a way for all these politicians to try to curry favor ahead of a major midterm election, which we are, you know, unfortunately we're about a year away from,
we're a year away from roughly this major midterm election, which is going to have huge implications, particularly it with regard to what's happened in Texas with the redistricting, what's happening in California with their attempts at redistricting, with this shape the shifting of the political sands in Congress, where you're gonna have you know this this uh census which could change everything too, you know, Trump's census he's trying to do.
So listen.
When we come back, I want to explain this further, because I think people are reading more into this than there is.
Stay tuned.
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Nick.
Alright.
So to get to the bottom of all of this, I guess we need to start with just understanding what again the political landscape is going into this midterm election and why we have a situation unfolding in Congress that that seems to be something that is quite disturbing.
Now, I'll explain.
Basically, we have Thomas Massey and Marjorie Taylor Greene, of course, coming out.
They're hosting and doing these Epstein hearings because, you know, there's this big push within Congress to get the Epstein client list released, I guess.
Thomas Massey has put together this effort and he's trying to basically change the law, essentially, to force the DOJ and whoever else is in charge of handling these Epstein client files and everything else to force their hand to release it, right?
And this is an issue that has been highly contested.
President Trump's come out and said that this is, you know— Basically, it said anybody who supports this effort is against me.
Therefore, the Republicans have come out and lockstep against this entirely.
And what we found is like some bizarro world situation shaping up in Congress where you have Thomas Massey, Marjorie Filler Green, and basically every Democrat in support of this effort to force essentially the DOJ's hand in releasing all this Epstein client information.
And people are, you know, very rightly saying, well, that doesn't seem right when Chuck Schumer and AOC and every other Democrat is supporting this effort of Thomas Massey while and and March Phil Green when every other every Republican is not.
Now there are ethics here, there's like, you know, a precedent that's would be set that could be dangerous and exploited, and there's also considerations for control of the House and other things that have been contested over the time with regard to this and why Republicans are against it.
It's not even necessarily that they don't want the Epstein files out.
But even beyond that, one must take a step back and understand that, you know.
If the Democrats want to have a chance in the midterms, they're going to have to make some sort of push toward the middle.
Now, they can't do that on certain issues, right?
They can't do that on LGBTQ stuff.
They can't do that on any of their sort of progressive, hard left liberal stances that they've taken over the last several years as a platform and a party.
So where are they going to find independent voters?
Where are they going to find disaffected voters who are willing to say I would probably vote one way, but I'll vote Democrat.
I uh you know, I I don't know which way I'm voting, but uh if there's one issue that could it's the Epstein thing, right?
So they've latched onto this, they've brought in their their publicists, their spin doctors, they have this press conference, everybody holding signs behind them.
The signs have pictures of Trump with Epstein saying, you know, petto president and release the Epstein files and expose Trump and all this stuff, right?
This is their issue.
This is their their push for a middle ground issue that they can use politically going into the midterm election, right?
To say, hey, you know, we may not agree on politics, but at least we agree on this, and if you want this to happen, vote for us, right?
Because we'll do it.
And then that doesn't even get into the whole idea of what Trump's alluded to time and again, which is two things twofold.
One, if Joe Biden was really the president, which presumably he was, and he had full authority to declassify, which presumably he did, or if his staffers who ran the auto pen had full authority to declassify, which they did, presumably, then why didn't they just declassify all this stuff then?
Why didn't they just release it then?
Especially when Trump was basically at his weakest, when he was facing trials in multiple jurisdictions, when he was facing, you know, the entire weight of the political and judicial system uh trying to not only throw him in prison but uh get him removed from the ballot and and you know basically rig the election before it even started, why wouldn't they have just done it then?
Right?
So then you you think about that, and and the the answer becomes clear is what pre President Trump's alluded to, which is that they took that time to not only because they knew that they couldn't release it,
if they released it, there is a high probability that they would have been exposed in what they did to alter the files to whitewash the files to get rid of their own their own guilt or culpability that was found within those files.
And this all goes back to when this first happened, which I think was it was pre-Obama, if I'm not mistaken, when they probably whitewashed these files, but it it doesn't matter, it's the same syndicate.
It's the Bush, Obama, Biden, Clinton syndicate, right?
So they didn't want to open that can of worms, they want to force Trump to do it.
So then they say, okay, well, we're gonna leave a ticking time bomb, a booby trap.
The booby trap is we leave office if we get this is like their dead man switch.
This is like their fail-safe.
It's like, well, if you beat us at an election, which Trump did, well, now our how we're gonna ultimately defeat Trump is by lobbying to get these files released, which we've whitewashed, and basically you're gonna open up this file, Nick, I believe, if it does even exist in whatever form it still exists.
And the reason probably Cash fell and everybody else is saying, you know, there's nothing here, then we then you know, backing off it, is because they're gonna open up it's just gonna be like Trump and Epstein and no one else.
No Ehud Barak.
No Bill Gates.
No.
Prince Andrew.
Well, maybe they can't get around that one.
They might have to leave him in.
But you understand what I'm saying here, right, Nick.
Yeah, yeah, I definitely do.
And you know, it's a ticking time bomb, but also if they messed up the chain of custody, or there's a couple of things.
Okay, so for example, OJ, brilliant.
What he did was uh run, and when he did, he just kept driving slow with the police, did a police chase, and he was all over the news.
Everyone knew about this.
It was all over pop culture.
And so the jury pool of people who have not been affected by the news that's on you know, innocent till proven guilty, they were all over that.
They messed that all up.
So then they had a very small jury pool, and then when you have a small jury pool, you can be very selective of the people you you have, and that can really give you favorable results.
So when they name these people as clients or whatever they do, that's actually gonna be super detrimental to prosecuting them.
It'd be much harder.
And even if they were guilty, you know, could because then they can't have a fair trial.
Yeah.
I think that's a very fair fair and valid point.
I think that's part of the part of the reason why they're trying to get this out there.
But even beyond that, like I was saying, there's there are implications that go far beyond that as well, where it's like, well, if what's left of the file was left by the people who were supposedly in control for the last four years, you could imagine what's in it, right?
And again, I said this in yesterday's show, right?
But you can understand how the media is manipulated, right?
To to the point where you can, for instance, say, okay, well, I agree the Epstein thing's bad.
I agree he did some horrid, horrible crap, and he should be there should be justice somehow for those victims.
I agree with that.
But at the same time, let's take any other honeypot operation ran by intelligence.
Let's just take pick one out of thin air like I did yesterday and say, oh, what about Hugh Hefner?
How many people were blackmailed at the Playboy Mansion in uh California?
You know?
How many videotapes were used to control politicians and to control celebrities and to control corporate leaders who go to those parties and go in a back room, and back then again, you didn't necessarily have to be with an underage girl, because you know, the threat of an affair coming out publicly could ruin you.
Not like today, where if you have an affair, it's just like you know, page six, and then it's it's off the press the next day and nobody cares, and you do like a little PR tour saying you're sorry, and everybody forgets and just moves on with their lives.
Back then, if you're sleeping with a Playboy Bunny and you're married, and that's on video, and some CIA guy walks in and says, here, we have you doing this.
Well, your political career is probably over.
So you play ball, you do what they say, you become controlled.
The compromise controls you.
And so nobody but nobody cares about that.
Nobody wants justice for the the you know, Playboy, you know, blackmail operations.
That's a good point, Craig.
No one's ever said that.
No.
In terms of yeah, uh, publicly, you know, the public figure people, the politicians and so on.
Well, that's my point, and then you could go down the list.
It the Diddy thing, that's just disappeared.
Nobody cares about that anymore.
You know, who knows how many record executives are blackmailing, you know, artists that go out and teach your kids about satanic, you know, rituals, uh ritualism and do it on stage and cast demonic spells and and do seances in front of tens of thousands of people at a stadium, and meh.
But Epstein.
Oh boy.
We better get to the bottom of Epstein or else this whole world might not make it.
And I'm not saying that that to say that Epstein's not important.
I'm just saying that it's a contrived put political football at this point.
Which again, I've said this a thousand times before.
If what do we want to know about Epstein that we don't already know?
Right?
Because at the end of the day, all that this Congress is going to do is tell us information.
They're not going to go arrest people.
Their subpoenas are not going to do anything.
They can't force people to testify, no matter what they say.
They can force you to show up, but you can just plead the Fifth Amendment.
So I mean it's all toothless.
It's all theater.
It's all kabuki.
It's all political optics.
It's all for the midterm election.
And for whatever reason, Thomas Massey and Marjorie Taylor Green have played into this.
And and look, I think at the end of the day, Nick, you know, you said there's a possibility that there's some element of foreign intelligence like Mossad, who is operating in Congress and manipulating these people.
Yeah, that's very possible because I don't think these people are that bright, to be quite honest.
Yeah, I guess not.
Yeah, they must not be, because gosh, Craig.
Uh they Yes, I agree with you, especially based on what they're saying.
Well I think oftentimes as well, I'm not saying that they're maybe I'm not implying it correctly.
They're not stupid.
It's not that they're stupid.
It's that sometimes people do stupid things because they are blindly working toward an end that they are opportunistically seeking.
Right?
You you if I want to get re-elected very badly, if I want to fight and be competitive in a contested election, if I want to uh and and maybe I have some other sordid motivation, I could probably do stupid things that wouldn't otherwise make sense, you know, or that seem like mistakes, but I understand it's like it's a political calculation.
You sacrifice one thing to get another, right?
So that's what I think a lot of this is.
Well, if it turns out, and you're I think you're right, if it turns out to be that, and it looks like it will, then their careers are gonna be over after this.
I know that the that Trump's gonna outsmart them in some way and uh make sure that this is used against whoever uh is behind all of it.
I hope so.
I don't know if anybody's like gonna get like there's a way to explain this, and I don't have time, so I'll take I'll go to the break.
We'll come back, we'll keep going.
Because there are some interesting, you know, elements to the story, I guess, but it's just it's maddening.
Stay tuned.
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So Nick, it the frustrating part about all this that I was trying to sort of articulate as we went into the break.
Is if you look back historically at everything, nothing makes sense, right?
So now you have Thomas Massey and Marjorie Taylor Green and every Democrat seemingly supporting this effort to release the Epstein client list when I think this was previously in December of 2023.
This was this the Democrats were the ones blocking the release of the Epstein documents.
Make it make sense, Nick.
What happened in two years that I missed?
You know?
What has changed from then to now that Democrats would would not want it released then, particularly when it could have opportunistically hurt Trump if he's in these files, right?
Right.
Which they believe vehemently now because they've been programmed by the mainstream media to believe that because they've hyper um, you know, uh magnified this.
They've they've hypersensationalized this whole narrative that Trump is blocking the documents release.
What has changed?
Can you explain that to me?
That's right, too.
And Nancy Pelosi was out there as one of the first people saying, uh, besides Schiff that they need to release the Epstein file.
She did in July this year.
Um so, you know, like you said, if they had something, they would have already done it, but we got Nancy Pants out there when you know she's probably drunk.
Um, you know, saying that stuff.
And so it does, you know, it's clearly and she's the one who talked about the wrap-up smear.
She's the one that that literally taught everybody how what they do, and then they do it.
And so it's very clear that's what they're doing.
And uh there's what they're doing is trying to get control of the narrative, and they did to an extent, and now they got these SAPs out there who want to advance their careers.
They said, okay, I'll do it.
And that's where we're at.
It's what it feels like.
I mean, just be for reference.
December 2023.
This is uh Senator Dick Durbin.
Let's listen to him.
Senator uh Blackburn, before you leave, I want to make points for the record since I understand you made some statements about the Jeffrey Epstein flight logs.
There's a Fox reporter in the hallway who asked me about this, and I said I had not Spoken to you one time about this issue.
I think you'll back me up on that.
I'm not mistaken.
I didn't know that this was even a subject of your amendments.
I don't know anything about this request on your part.
I'll be happy to discuss it with you.
But I haven't done any discussion with you to this point.
Mr. Chairman, I brought it up previously.
I want to point on the record.
You and I have never personally discussed this, have we?
A subpoena to Jeffrey Epstein's estate to provide the flight logs for his private plane.
Given the numerous allegations of human trafficking and sexual abuse surrounding Mr. Epstein, I think it is very important that we identify everybody that was on that plane and how many trips they took on that plane and the destinations to which they arrived.
In committee, I brought up my the subject matter of my amendments.
Not my three weeks prior.
Yes, sir.
It was I'll I'll pull the transcript for you.
So what you saw there was a compilation of two clips, right?
It was Marcia Blackburn, Senator Marsha Blackburn saying in November of 2023 to Dick Durbin in committee that she wanted to subpoena all of the flight logs and then Senator Dick Durbin in December a month later, claiming that he has never heard of any request to do so.
And that's just one example of many.
We know the Democrats actively worked to obfuscate and stop the release of the files.
That's public record.
We it's not up for debate.
It's not up for some, you know, this is could be interpreted one way or the other.
No.
They operated with clear intent and action to keep the Epstein files, flight logs, whatever you want to call them, client list from being released, and now they want it released.
And you at you only have to ask yourself what has changed.
And the answer is they lost the election.
And they had control, and now it seems as though what's in that, what's in those files, what's left of it, I mean Trump said it.
He said, look, it's another hoax.
And I think people are frustrated, yeah.
But here's my point, and I've always had this same position.
You think they're gonna just you think that we're gonna they're gonna release the file and they can be like, oh yeah, it was an Ebs, it was a you know, blackmail operation ran by intelligence, CIA and Mossad, yeah, yeah, we were having politicians getting uh, you know, corporate people, you know, rape little kids so that we could get them on, uh get them pinned down so that they'll do what we want.
Oh, you got us.
Oh yeah, oh man, totally got us.
You think that's ever gonna happen?
The answer is no.
The answer is an emphatic no.
The answer is if you believe that that's gonna happen, you're living in a in a disparate reality that doesn't exist.
That's the clear answer.
And it's the one people don't like.
It's probably the the one people do not want to believe, but it's the truth.
Not only because it's ridiculous to think that they would do that, because it's it would be it'd be self-immolation, essentially, on their part.
But more overly, because of the clear and obvious national security implications that would be far reaching, it would not just be confined to domestic American political issues.
We're talking about blackmailing leaders of foreign nations.
Okay?
This isn't like this is blackmailing corporate leaders from sovereign citizens from other nations.
Okay?
This isn't like just relegated to us.
And this is this is uh this is state-sanctioned blackmail.
Like, if you believe that the United States government is ever gonna just come out and be like, oh yeah, we're blackmailing everyone.
Like, you're not living you're not you're not acting in good faith.
You're and I know that that doesn't sound I know people don't like that.
People are like, oh, well, we're gonna have the midless, we've got to have the truth, we've got to have a rest.
Well, good luck with that, okay?
Good luck with that.
Because even if the truth exists and they have it, they're never gonna give it to you.
Ever.
It's like say it's like saying the CIA is gonna you give them a mandate.
You guys, it's like saying Trump's saying to them, you guys need to clean yourselves up, and I trust you to do it.
No.
That's metaphorically like handing the CIA a revolver and it's fully loaded and saying, okay, put it to your temple and pull the trigger.
Metaphorically.
It's not happening.
It's just not going to happen.
And and and I and I feel bad that you know we have to say it like this, but that's what I want to yell at these people who are just like lemmings running off the cliff every time the media gets them to look at something and are like, we demand the Epstein files.
It's like you don't even know what you're asking for.
Okay?
You don't you can't ask any leftist.
I saw this great man on the street interview, James O'Keefe did at this this uh press tape conference thing in front of the Capitol with the Epstein survivors.
He was asking all the leftists who had the the Epstein signs and they were holding them up like Trump and Epstein signs, and he was asking me, he goes, Well, if you think Trump's implicated in this, why didn't Biden release any of this over the last four years?
And you can see in real time their brains just completely like malfunctioning.
They're like those MPC bots who don't know what to say until the chip gets put in that tells them what to say, right?
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I'm your host, Craig James with Nick No.
And Nick, you know what?
I was thinking about this over the break.
I know where the Jeffrey Epstein client list is.
Do you want to know where it is?
Yes.
Remember the end of uh Indiana Jones when uh they put the Ark of the Covenant in that big crate and they just wheel it into that warehouse, and the implication is that like all these great artifacts are just being hidden by the government, they'll never release.
And secrets too, yeah.
Yeah, so the Jeffrey Epstein list was put in one of those crates and wheeled in that warehouse.
You're never gonna see it.
And it's just it to me, it's like even if you get something, right?
You're gonna get something, probably.
You know, it sounds like what they're gonna do is the the victims are gonna put together their own list, and then to because if they release it, they'll get sued into oblivion, and you know, uh and otherwise what's gonna happen is Marjorie Taylor Green or Thomas Massey are gonna read it into the official record in Congress because Congressmen and women are immune from being sued for that kind of,
you know, uh they can't be sued for those kind of defam defamatory things or anything.
They can say basically whatever they want, they're protected.
So then they'll read that into the record, and then that'll make it public record, which then means it can be reported on.
Well, again, like you said, Nick, we have the flight locks.
We know the people flying there.
We have comprehensive lists that have been put together by people who have been studying this for a very long time.
One person in particular, Liz Croakin.
She put together a list with 17 names that I thought were interesting.
Um here, let's just let's just read Liz Croakin's list on air and hope we don't get sued into oblivion.
This is Liz Crokin, by the way, just quoting her and what she put online.
Uh Hyatt Hotel's chairman Tom Pritzker, Google co-founder Sergey Brin, real estate investor Mortimer Zuckerman, Creative Artist Agency, and former Disney executive Michael Ovitz, former JP Morgan executive and ex Barclay CEO, Jess Staley,
former Treasury Secretary under Bill Clinton and Harvard President Emredis, Larry Summers, former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak, Apollo Global Management Co Founder, Leon Black, Woody Allen, Philanthropy Advisor, Barnaby Marsh,
Hedge Fund Billionaire, Glenn Dubin, Bard College President, Leon Botstein, Obama White House Counsel, Katherine Roomuler, Professor Nam Chotz Chomsky, JP Morgan Chase CEO, Jamie Diamond, Reed Hoffman, and Biden's former CI director, William Burns.
There's a list for you.
Now what are you going to do?
Like, here's my question.
There's the list.
Okay, what are you going to do?
Nick, I've given you the list.
What now?
Let's call the FBI.
Yeah.
I'm sure they'll do something.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because you know.
Let's bring any of these guys to trial.
Do you know what they're going to say?
Their defense is going to be immediately.
I've been blackmailed by the government.
And then that's going to open up a can of worms that nobody's ever going to open, that nobody wants to open, and that nobody at the DOJ wants to prosecute.
They don't want to have discovery.
They don't want to go through the tedious process of, you know, peeling back the underbelly of their you know clandestine operations into blackmail and sex trafficking.
Because it opens up too many doors.
You know.
And the blackmail is probably useful.
They don't want to be.
You lose the utility of it all.
That's true.
And if as soon as they, you know, those people admit it, you think that they're going to live any longer than Hillary Clinton's.
Oh, God, dude.
They'll all end up like Jeffrey Epstein.
They'll be in a holding cell in in Manhattan and hang themselves before trial, conveniently.
So I don't know.
I've just gotten to the point with this whole Epstein thing, and then oh, Trump's on it.
Trump's on it.
Really?
Trump's on a list.
Well, what does that mean?
Well, it means he's he's involved.
Now he's controlled.
Not according to everything I've, you know, heard about.
And you know it's funny, because you know, Trump.
You would have to acknowledge at least that if they're hyper focused on Trump.
They have little to nothing on him other than what's already out there publicly.
Right.
Yeah.
Which are just some pictures and some, you know, uh secondhand accounts of things that may or may not have happened from people who are clearly motivated by ulterior have ulterior motives and in their in you know making their inferences.
Yeah, and and uh as you for your back to your reference to Bradley Edwards, he was the attorney that was a prosecutor of Epstein, and um he represented uh Epstein's victims back in 2009, and uh he was the you know basically he said that he President Trump is the only person who in 2009 when I served a lot of subpoenas on behalf of Epstein's victims, a lot of people to some pretty connected people, and I wanted to talk to them.
He Trump is the only person who picked up the phone and said, Let's just talk.
I'll give you as much time as you want, tell you what you need to know.
He was very helpful in the inf information that he gave, and gave no information whatsoever that he was involved in anything untoward what sort, whatsoever, uh, but had good information that checked out and then helped it helped us, and we didn't even have to take a deposition from him.
And think of it this way.
I mean, at the end of the day, that same lawyer, I think, if I'm not mistaken, came out part of that press conference, or it might have been a different one, but I think it was that same one.
And he said, Look, Trump was the only one who helped us.
I don't know why he's reverse course and now said that this whole thing's a hoax.
And it's like, dude, you don't know why?
You haven't figured this out yet.
Like they know they're all the lawyers want money, they want publicity, they want notoriety.
That's how they make money.
So they they know that this whole thing's a hoax and a scam now.
They know it's all political kabuki, they know it's all political football.
They're playing into it, they don't care anymore.
They look, they just want their name out in front of the masses, it gives them notoriety, it gives them it's so frustrating.
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Welcome back to Just Forum Talk Radio.
I'm your host Craig James with Nick No.
And uh Nick, I have to play this clip.
This is Thomas Massey.
And you know, you gotta think about this.
This was Liz Crockin said this, and I thought it was very true.
The fact that the fake news Mockingbird Media is doing live coverage of Jeffrey Epstein today should tell you everything you need to know.
Right.
This was yesterday during the the live press conference, because this was on every network, by the way.
Every one of the same networks, mind you, that refused to cover the Epstein story for the last, oh, I don't know six to eight years.
Okay.
Same ones that showed up and and recorded live for the first time ever for the Trump's assassination attempt in Pennsylvania.
Same group of people.
Right.
So let's be clear.
Okay.
I don't want to impugn the intelligence of the population generally speaking.
Because I don't know that it's necessarily an intelligence issue.
But I will say the unassuming masses are manipulated in ways that they in in most cases will never even comprehend.
But here's Thomas Massey, right?
The the the purist from Kentucky, right, who's who's just a pure uh hardcore liberal or uh conservative who's who's just doing the right thing, you know.
Here he is telling us that they're gonna discharge this pol this petition.
Um there's a discharge petition that's being signed now for the Epstein files, and that they only need two Republicans because they have every Democrat on their side.
Listen to this.
We demand real accountability.
I encourage my colleagues, please.
There's over 200 Republicans who have not signed this discharge petition.
We only need two of them to sign it.
And every Democrat will sign it.
And that will get us the number we need to force this vote to pass a law, not a polite request to the DOJ to police themselves.
No, we need legally binding legislation to force that to happen.
And my main call to action is to the people watching these live feeds that are going through these cameras, right?
Okay, Thomas.
You want legally binding action that requires the DOJ to release the information that they probably know has been tainted and corrupted and will taint and corrupt any future chance at prosecution uh of these individuals, right?
Am I reading that right?
Yes.
I I don't know what to say, Nick.
I I feel like if you can't see this clearly for what it is at this point, then I don't know how to to even explain.
But it is so disturbing.
I watched this video, I can't play it because there's too many curse words.
But it was James O'Keefe.
And he's like walking through the crowd of people behind Thomas Massey.
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And he's asking them the most basic question.
He's like, so if this implicates Trump, then why wasn't it released under Biden?
And as their brains crumble and break in real time, it becomes so clear how gullible and easily manipulated these people are.
And it's just or they're they're willfully uh acting in a very malevolent manner.
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Nick, I'm I'm I don't know.
I think we should probably move on, even though I'm sure that this story will never go away, it'll never end.
It'll just be this ongoing saga of you know, it's it's like those mostly women, but unfortunately some men who are obsessed with these reality TV shows that you know just go on and on and on, the real housewives of this place or that place, and it's like they're just watching it because they want to see people do horrible things, and and it's like this I don't know.
It it's sort of sickening and a bit demented how our society is obsessed with this things, right?
Yeah, and it's been over time, starting in the you know, was it the seventies and sixties where they started celebrating uh divorce and putting that in movies as is a liberating thing for women and uh you know and it's it's it all started long ago and it's built to this D-based um degenerate society, yeah.
Degenerate society, yeah.
And you know, Yuri Bezmanov were warned about that, you know, and and now they're trying to erase our culture and identity of even remembering who we were.
Look, Cracker Barrel removing the the guy from Cracker Barrel, you know, that and all the other stuff.
And it seems like they're trying to erase our history of who we are so that we won't be able to fight back, you know.
Well, it's exactly what they do in every communist, you know, take over.
I mean, it's what they did in the Mao Revolution.
They did exactly the same thing they're doing here today.
I mean, go look back at the Red Guard and you know, when the the great leap forward and what Mao was doing with his, you know, the the communist you know takeover.
It was tearing down statues, destroying thousand-year-old temples.
It was removing all of the things that gave them a cultural heritage so that it could be re-written and redrawn into a communist heritage.
And that's what you go to China and see today.
You you the the old temples and the statues that have made it through were ones that were quote unquote like approved by the communists.
Everything else was torn down and thrown in the trash.
The people who taught the history were pulled out of the teachers were pulled out of the classrooms, they were forced to, you know, be re-educated.
I mean, everything that they've done, and that's just China, and they've done that in other things.
The Bolshevik Revolution is another example, and the communist, you know, overthrow of the the czar there, Nicholas, and you know, that that dynasty that was, you know, basically uh erased and and executed from history uh so that it could be replaced with you know this communist system.
So that's what they're trying to do here in America, and they're gonna use anything they can to distract you from that process.
The Epstein just Epstein's just one example of it, right?
Yeah, this is Epstein is probably a much smaller fish in this bigger operation and it's a distraction.
Well, of course it is.
And and it but it it's amplified like everything else by the fake news media.
So you know one rule of thumb I've had for years now that's served me well, is that whatever the fake news media is amplifying is almost always the least important issue of the day, if that makes sense.
So if they're if they're telling you that, you know, Epstein is this big deal, is probably the least important thing to your life today.
And if you think about it, that probably stands true with any aspect you could imagine.
Economic, you know, security.
Well, our country's being raked over the coals by these foreign nations and their you know uh trade deficits and and these tariffs that they've been imposing upon us for years.
Uh inflation's rampant, uh interest rates are way too high.
Uh, you know, you can't afford most things still, even with Trump in office because there are blockades being set up to prevent the the average person from being able to succeed economically in America.
Education, our educational system is completely overrun with this woke, you know, cr CRT racist ideology that is infecting the minds of children to the point where I think it's 20% of Gen Z now identifies as LGBTQ, a horrifically high number from what it's historically been.
Children are uh suffering depression and obesity and uh suicide at rates that have only have have either in some cases you know gone up a hundred and two hundred and five hundred percent over the last you know few decades.
Um if you look at health, I mean the health care system is still completely broken.
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Um there's militaristically, you know, national or internationally, our we've never had a poorer, I think, image nationally, a portrayal Of our our nation to other nations, our relationships with other nations are deteriorating.
What am I missing, Nick?
I mean, I could probably keep going if I really wanted to and sit here and think about all the different ways that there are things happening in real time that are destroying us.
You know, our nation's wealth is being plundered.
Uh corporate, you know, corporations are poisoning our food, poisoning our water, poisoning our air.
Um, you know, without with complete reckless abandon.
Yeah, look at that twenty-five percent jump.
Look, uh, I you know, I uh I look I look in college, I think I mentioned this on air before I was in a I ended up in a gender studies class because I didn't sign up for classes soon enough and I had to take what was left.
Anyway, what I learned is like as you said, seven to nine percent of the population at any given time were cons considered probably they're gay or lesbians, right?
But then twenty-five percent, Craig, that's recruitment.
Okay, that's mind manipulation.
That there's no way a jump like that can happen, and it's been consistent throughout history.
Well, if you convince people that being normal is evil, then don't be surprised when a portion of those people decide to be abnormal to fit in.
That's just what it is.
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And we can sit here, Nick, I think, and go on about the moral decline and economic decline and physical health decline, mental health decline in America and all these things that barely get any mention whatsoever.
And the media breathlessly wants us to be concerned with some dead pedo blackmailing intelligence officers, you know, operation.
But I think that that there are other stories we can kind of get into here today, and and I'd like to do that.
Um if you think that's a good place to go, unless you have anything you want to finish up on there.
Ooh, no, no, yeah, let's let's move on.
But I have a really fun subject uh about news for the housing market and what's about to happen with Scott Bessonet, what he said in his uh last few uh press conferences, and I I've got it all summarized and streamlined.
I can go through uh each new thing that they're gonna be doing to change this uh the housing crisis.
They're gonna declare a national housing emergency.
And one of the things is uh one of the main things I I didn't even know about is that HUD homes and they would give FHA loans and and uh uh you know other loans like that they're supposed to go to Americans.
Nowhere in the process did someone put in the rules that you had to be an American citizen to be using this money.
So we have people coming here using money that's meant for us, and people who are struggling for that matter, and they're giving it to people who are not even citizens.
That thing's going away and some other stuff, but uh it's there's really good news coming for uh our housing market in this next during this month.
Yeah, I think you're right.
And actually, as a matter of fact, I pulled it up while you were talking.
I have a story that I was gonna share specifically on that issue.
Um Treasury's actually said before, Treasury's Secretary Scott Besens come out with President Trump, and they've talked about declaring this national emergency uh about housing, right?
They're saying that the elevated mortgage rates and the record high home prices are making homeownership unaffordable.
So what they're saying is that there's gonna be possible tariff exemptions, standardizing codes, and decreasing closing costs are all being considered as a part of the process here.
What they're saying is that Americans are facing one of the worst housing affordability crisis, which we all know in a generation.
They're looking at declaring this national emergency to address those main issues, which the tariff exemptions will be to make housing more affordable in the sense that it'll bring down the cost to build in most cases.
It'll be bring down the cost of material, which is going to be a huge bump in uh keeping those prices more affordable.
Standardizing the codes is going to be another significant one because oftentimes you have these different building codes that then end up making it more difficult to navigate.
And sometimes those codes are written in ways to be more of a barrier to entry than they are even a you know an enforcement of a code that's gonna actually make your you or your house or your building safer, right?
So that's their claim, but but a lot of time that that red tape is put up because of uh you know, city officials and things that you know locally where they're just you're just gonna be able to do that.
They want their cut of the pie.
They want their piece of the pie.
They want it to be they want the grease the wheel, they're the squeaky wheel.
And that, yeah.
That is why President Trump has already said, or people within his cabinet have said that they want to get rid of the uh property tax federally.
I get and also you know, I guess states can do what they want.
But uh, you know, uh I don't know if they pay that.
I think it's told local, but yeah, they want to get rid of it across the United States because look, uh, you know, that that's the red tape that they put in there too.
Because like you said, when you whenever you get these regulations in there, they want to know what you're doing on your property.
So if the value goes up, then they can they can rake you over the coals more.
That's really what it's about is taking your money.
Yeah, I mean technically there is no federal property tax.
You might be talking about the federal income tax.
Yeah, he says he's getting rid of that.
But I I in my state, I talk I actually talked to someone that's close to the governor in Indiana, uh, and uh he is in line with that.
They want to get rid of, at least in my state, the uh the property taxes, and uh my bad I got those crosswired.
Yeah, there's state taxes.
There so property taxes are state and local.
Federal there's no such thing as A federal property tax yet, thankfully.
But uh who knows, they might have that in the works.
The Democrats probably are already lobbying for it.
But the federal income tax would be huge if Trump gets rid of that.
He says the tariffs can replace the federal income tax, and then that would be another way to sort of unlock the real estate market because people are going to be having if you have more money, then you have more uh buying power, you have more buying power, then you can afford more things, clearly.
I'm I'm no economist, but that's my understanding of it.
Um but right now, where are we at?
The the big biggest problem is we have right now seem to be, and and as a real estate agent, which by the way, if you guys don't know, I am a licensed real estate agent.
So if you are looking to buy or sell real estate, please reach out to me and let me uh do my best to assist you.
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Um basically we have this two-pronged problem, and this is what I'm seeing in the real estate market right now, especially as I'm looking at buyers and sellers.
You have high mortgage rates, and then you have high home prices.
And usually those things work inversely, but we're in this weird point where we have both high interest rates and the market is just at at nearly the top of where it's been.
And what what I'm seeing, and what I'm seeing across the industry, it seems, is that people you have sellers who don't want to come down on price because they the expectation is their house is worth what it probably was worth two or three years ago when interest rates were lower, or even four years ago, when interest rates were at their lowest, like three percent.
Lowest in our lifetime.
And you have this this sort of weird, I mean, obviously, it's kind of forming itself into a a bit of a buyer's market because I'm seeing every day price reductions across the market.
I mean, and it's it and and but the interest rates are staying where they're at.
And so this, I think, is a part of the reason why they're trying to keep interest rates where they're at, because they're trying to deflate that the prices, because that's what essentially high interest rates aim to do at the end of the day, is reduce the price of the properties to keep the market from over inflating, right?
Yeah, but it's it's getting to a point of ridiculousness because inflation, the numbers are not that ridiculous.
When you factor in inflation, the housing prices are actually I think adjusted with inflation, probably where they should be, right?
They shouldn't be going back.
Which is why the need to lower the interest rate.
But then they're afraid of what's going to happen if they lower the interest rate because that's going to lead to you know, this uh new tsunami in housing prices will go up and people will it'll free up the market, but it'll also uh not be good for the Fed and everyone else, all these big corporations that have been exploiting you know these high interest rates, and then it makes treasury bonds more difficult to sell.
So it's I understand the economy is very fragile and delicate, and I'm not an economist, to be clear.
I'm a licensed real estate agent and I'm a political scientist.
So my my expert, my realms of expertise are politics and real estate.
But I will say that not just for my own interest, but for the interest of the American people, if we can make housing more affordable, and by more affordable, basically that just means lowering the interest rate.
That's a good thing.
Now, when they lower the interest rates, I'm just gonna let everybody know.
You know, I'm an advocate for buying and you know, buying and selling now whenever you can, because mark my words, when they lower those interest rates, which is coming, it looks like they're gonna have four interest rate drops in the next few quarters or the next few sessions and meetings where they come together.
Um you're gonna see those housing prices increase.
It may not be immediate, but the housing prices will increase.
That's just there's an inverse Inverse relation, yeah, always.
And it's that's it okay there's cyclical uh times real estate too.
That's normal.
But yeah, as you said, as soon as that you can change the conditions to change the uh the conditions of the real estate market, and if those terrix tariff fictions come in for Canada in particular, think about how much lumber those people have.
Oh, yeah.
That's where that's where the tariffs really gonna be is lumber from Canada and maybe some relief for some Chinese exports that are imports that are related to construction and maybe some other, you know, maybe Mexico, I don't know.
But I can tell you right now that if you're gonna get in the real estate market, if you're gonna buy especially, you know, you're gonna want to buy sooner than later.
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Um I can help you with that process.
But even beyond that, you know, this is just where the market is going.
It they're gonna eventually lower the interest rates, it seems.
As those go down, prices are gonna go up.
Right now, as I said before, you adjust for inflation, even though the prices are high, they're probably where they should be per inflation.
Yeah, and Colorado in particular, uh, Craig, is one of those states that have been really pushing a lot of multi-family uh buildings.
So basically they're they're encouraging apartment complexes and not building homes, uh, which has actually made it even you know put even more pressure on the housing market there for the prices to drive up, they're not gonna change their policies.
Even if those guys get removed for in Colorado for the crimes, it's gonna take time to get things right, and uh you don't want to be caught, you know, being the last person in musical chairs that doesn't get to sit down and have a house.
Look, it it's it I know it's it's expensive, you know, sometimes to buy a house, and you know, uh like Craig said though, uh if you can get in now, if I would do it, you know, I'm not a real estate agent or anything like that, but this is my personal opinion, you know, uh, and and seeing this stuff that with Colorado it's difficult to get homes because they don't they're right now they're they're they're restricting so many restrictions on building.
And and if you can get one, hold on to it and wait.
You know, if you've got one, uh or if you you know, and if you or if you want to cash out and then retire and move to Bali, give Craig a call too.
Yeah, yeah, I mean, because you never know what's gonna happen.
And I always sell this to clients.
I mean, look, if you're if you're in a position where you're debating, you know, whether or not you want to pull the trigger on buying something because of high interest rates, well, you know, it's not everybody knows this, but if you are financing, if you're doing conventional financing or whatever,
you know, you're looking at a situation, not financial advice, but I just say, look, you know, you can always buy now at the discounted price, which trust me, when the interest rates drops, when the interest rate drops, you will realize that the prices of the market now are discounted.
Um you are you're gonna buy cheap, and then you can always refinance sooner than later.
And I know refinancing comes with a whole set of you know issues with that, you know, but at the end of the day, you can refinance to whatever the interest rate drops to, and then you got your house for a cheap price, you got your low interest rate, you know, you're you're basically in in a different position.
And um I know that financing is a whole nother issue with you know how easy or hard is it to build equity when you're financing.
I mean, the first year of most mortgages, depending on how they're structured, you're basically paying interest um mostly, but over time, you know, you build equity.
And and a lot of people, it's like if you're not in the business of buying and selling, if you're not in an investment, you know, an investment purchaser or or investor, then uh this is gonna be a home you're gonna live in probably for a long time, so that's something to consider as well.
So call me if you need help with it, 970-217-3824, or email me at Pooter Homes at Gmail.com, P O U D R E H O M E S at Gmail.com.
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You know, I had an interesting story just to wrap up the whole real estate thing.
You know, a friend of mine, a couple years back, really good friend of mine, solid dude, family man.
Um he worked independently, had his own business that he was running, saved up, he was saving up money to buy a house.
And I remember, you know, listening to him tell me, and this was back in 2023, I want to say, 20 late 2022, early 2023.
And you know, this is right around the time interest rates were starting to go up.
And he had all he had a lot of money saved.
I don't remember exactly how much, but it was a lot.
It was a healthy amount of money.
And we kept having this conversation about you know whether he was gonna buy or sell and or buy a house, because he was living with his parents, and he was saving up this money to buy a home.
That was his whole point.
And I remember having this conversation with him, and he kept saying to me, you know, he's like, I've been saving up this money, I'm ready to buy, but I'm just I'm not gonna get in because I think the market's gonna crash, and I think that the interest rates are gonna come down, and I'm just not gonna buy.
And meanwhile, you know, his family, his is him, his wife, his two kids, are living pretty cramped.
It wasn't a very Big house, they were all crammed into with his parents.
And I kept telling them, like, man, you know, I just think if you buy real estate, you know, at any point you're gonna you're gonna probably do well if on a long enough time line.
You may if you you may need to be able to hold on to that real estate if the market does take a downturn, you may need to be able to have that, you know, wherewithal, but you you shouldn't be standing out of the market just because the interest rates are high, or because the the you know, you're you're thinking there might be a downturn.
Especially, I mean, if the interest rates are high, you're probably again, like I've said to others, you know, you're gonna have a better, you're gonna get a better price, and that asset value is gonna, you know, it it all adjusts accordingly.
Again, we talked about the inverse relationship there.
Well, yeah.
If that guy I knew, buddy of mine had bought a property in 23 when he was looking, he would have got a lower interest rate than the interest rate today, and he probably would have made you know enough equity to have offset any interest rate he could have gotten at that point by now, even with the market conditions sort of stabilizing and and settling as it is.
So, and I use that anecdotally, obviously, because there's you know, who knows what the market's gonna do, nobody knows.
But again, on a long enough times line, real estate's always a good investment, no matter what, no matter when, no matter where, no matter what price you buy, no matter what interest rate you get, you know.
I know people that I've talked to who got their first home in 1980 something with an eleven percent interest rate, and they paid and their houses were ten times what they paid for it now, you know, here whatever it is 40 years later.
So you're you have to look at it on that for from my perspective as again I I don't really obviously as a real estate agent, my interest is to try to sell homes or buy help people buy homes, but at the end of the day, I mean, just on a that's how I view real estate on as with my investments, why I buy real estate, right?
That's why I own a home.
Yeah.
I would say, Craig, and this is my opinion, I'm not financial advice, or blah, blah, blah, blah, uh, you know, disclaimer.
Real property investment, aside from gold and precious metals, which will be directly, you know, if there's inflation or whatever, the inflation is added to the value of the gold.
Uh, just it's the same thing with real estate.
Real property and then real assets such as gold and silver and stuff are uh good investments, especially long term, like you said.
And you're gonna uh, you know, and if let's say the market gets a little weird, uh, it will level off and it's cyclical.
So with it, usually within, I think it's like something like seven or nine years is the real estate market cycle.
I can't remember which one of the two it is, somewhere around it's one of the two of those, but uh yeah, it's it's gonna work out good for you.
Yeah, and and that's just the whole point, I think, with the affordability thing.
I do believe that that's definitely something uh we should be looking into more closely with what Trump's doing.
You know, the housing affordability, that's probably that's seemingly gonna be one of their things they're gonna be campaigning on in the upcoming midterm elections is making things more affordable, which that's what he campaigned on in 2024, and that seemed to work.
Uh are things more affordable?
Moderately.
I mean there there is uh there was a probably a higher expectation than what was delivered, but I do believe that we're moving at least in the correct direction from that perspective.
So that's something.
I mean, you can bet your bottom dollar, things wouldn't have gotten cheaper if Democrats had taken control.
That we kind of know.
So that you know, take that with a grain of salt, obviously.
Um yeah, that's kind of my opinion on it.
Did you see how President Trump tweeted uh or not tweeted he did a truth of basically is it is a picture of like MAGA mortgage or whatever.
I believe, and this could be completely wrong.
But remember how we talked about how the three the three largest regional banks, the the three largest regional banks had zero depend zero deposits on hand, zero percent deposits, and by what was it, this the was it March, they're supposed to have ten percent deposits on on hand legally.
And if they don't, they're illegal and they're violation of the law.
So uh, you know what Trump's probably done.
I haven't heard a peep from those people.
Uh so I'm thinking to myself, what he's gonna do is say, okay, I'm gonna give you guys I'm gonna bill you out, but guess what?
Every penny that you get has to go to mortgages.
All right.
That's what he's gonna do in terms of uh, you know, the excess money, you know, that he's gonna get them to the ten percent they need, but also uh make sure that if they're lending, they're the the conditions on receiving the money is that they gotta give mortgages and they gotta give them lower rates too, probably, I'm guessing.
Yeah, I mean, I think there's there's something to be said for that, obviously, but uh there is a lot to to look at in regard to all of it, and I always try to make sure I I look at these things and you know understand where they're at, you know, uh on certain timelines, right?
Um I don't know what Trump's timeline is for it, but it seems like he's pushing for the the interest rate drawdown or drawdown, which should be overall it's gonna have implications across the board.
I know that, you know, it's gonna make their broader economic implications again that I'm not necessarily an economist to be able to um ex um to pontificate upon or to to extrapolate, but I do know that there are implications for certain markets that are gonna be very direct, very apparent, very clear, and easy to predict.
So that's something to look at, and I uh and I hope that I hope you're right, you know, why not?
Let's let's try to focus on getting people into homes.
That's definitely one of the and I'm not talking about you know everybody wants to always focus on the black rock, you know, owning homes, but it's really blackstone, I believe is the the big one, not BlackRock.
And Blackstone, I think is they all own each other, so it doesn't matter at the end of the day.
But just different names.
But uh yeah, I think the Blackstone type of you know investment that's been happening is just one example.
There are plenty of other opportunities that's outside of that, and even then, at least they're investing in building homes in America, which you know, for better or worse, is better than building homes, I guess, in Ukraine or biolabs in Ukraine, right?
So take take a win where you can get it.
Um we're gonna come back and go through some other stuff.
I have some interesting stories, so let's keep it locked in.
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And you know, Nick, I do have to say, I want to get to a couple other stories, or at least one, maybe, uh maybe two, that I thought were interesting for you.
I also, I'll tell you this on air, we talked about earlier in the week, but uh I forgot to mention this when we were having our pre-meeting.
But uh tomorrow, maybe we can get into a little bit more of that horrific story that took place while we were away last week uh with regard to the um Catholic school shooting in Minneapolis, some really disturbing things connected to that.
Maybe we can talk about that in tomorrow's show.
I told the audience that we would save that for you, Nick, to dive in a little bit on it.
Uh, there was a lot to that, and I think not just the demonic forces at hand with somebody being that, you know, evil, but beyond that, we we know about a lot of these mind control sort of programs,
what happens when you get people involved with um you know these crazy things like uh the the SSRIs and the therapists and the mind control stuff.
I actually just watched one I watched the entire Jason Bourne movie series, right?
And one of the plot lines to that movie is identical to what we've seen be alleged about some of these mass shooters, which is that they have programs clandestinely that can program the minds of these people to go commit these horrific things.
And I want to get into that a little bit tomorrow.
And there are some real world you know, operations that we can look at, projects that were being done that connect to it.
But on sort of an aside as we go out in this last segment, or before our final segment, I want to talk about this story.
Did you watch did you see the story of um China had their massive military parade?
Everybody probably saw that.
If you didn't, China was celebrating or commemorating the eightyth anniversary of uh VE Day or whatever they call it in China for the conclusion of World War II, 1945 to 2025,
and at this giant military parade, which is a procession of you know, showing off this incredible, you know, uh exhibit of Chinese military pro power with their nuclear ICBMs they roll down the street and they're marching soldiers and all that.
Uh Vladimir Putin and Kim Jong un were both in attendance as supposedly honored guests.
President Trump came out and said something to the effect of, hey, you know, I'm glad to see Putin and Kim Jong un are at Or with China plotting our destruction, uh, you know, that's great to see, kind of tongue in cheek.
But something interesting happened there at this event where on a hot mic, Xi Jinping and Vladimir Putin were having a conversation with Kim Jong-un, and the hot mic picks up them saying to each other that their expectation is to live to 150 with the technology that they have in their exist uh have at their disposal.
And I just thought that was interesting, something you might want to comment on, Nick, because I know you're you're always sort of into these kind of esoteric realms of thought.
Sure.
There's a guy named Tony Tether who works for the government, and I think he's in the SES, but um he's friends with Fauci, and I was told by uh, you know, a former CIA agent who I trust on this issue, he told it because I saw his lab, he had literally had a lab, a covert lab on his property in one of his buildings to destroy the super soldier programs, uh uh organic materials.
So what he would do is put them in like basically a cauldron, this thing that heats up really hot and it destroys everything.
And he told me that they uh you know they they've had this for a long time, and they they've already kind of perfected it.
And going back all the way to like 2009 on science news.org was when I first read about it, um, they had perfected it um making chips assemble in your brain, for example, and they were doing this because they went ahead and have a non-invasive way to help people with epilepsy, the quote unquote, you know, is what their reason was.
Uh, you know, for example, if you put um you know uh chips in certain places and it and uh have electrical circuits going that can stop them from happening and such.
So anyway, it was a series of injections.
They were successful all the way back then with with doing that with a simple with this through a series of injections, assembling a chip in the brain.
First, the chip gets planted, second, uh, for the first injection, then the second one, uh, you know, and it goes through your blood brain barrier and it just knows where to go.
And then after that, the next one comes in and it and it kind of attaches to it, and it it's the thing that'll give it power, and then uh and using your body heat and then and so on.
But this has been around for a long time.
But now you add that in, right?
Uh with microwave frequencies from the 5G, you can do a lot of stuff.
Um and then on top of that the uh the programs with the SSRIs, these therapists probably work for the CIA, um, and you know, they they never get held accountable for that stuff.
Um I think people will need to review those people, their therapists need to be looked at, and on top of that, RFK just announced that he's gonna be doing research into the SSRIs and and why uh they're always associated with the shooters.
Okay.
Well, that's interesting to comment on that.
But uh did you have any comment on the life extension technology?
Is that all connected?
Did I miss that part?
Well, oh, yeah, well, yeah.
So uh, yes, so uh well, allegedly this stuff, like you said, the Jason Bourne type thing happens, you can get uh help your your organs heal, do all kinds of stuff if you have the right kind of things going, but obviously they gave us malicious stuff.
Um and you know, in the movie with Jason Bourne, he had super strength, uh super sharpness and and uh and the ability to uh use his brain fully is what it seemed like.
Yeah, he was given drugs to unlock his brain.
But even beyond that, there was a scene in the movie, spoiler alert, where a scientist in a lab who makes these drugs goes on a killing spree and murders all the people in there except one person, and then they the whole movie is predicated on the plot is going after this person who was there who didn't get murdered,
who knows that they can program people's minds to do things they wouldn't normally do, and she suspects that the guy who killed everybody in the lab was programmed to do what he did against his better judgment or will.
So yeah.
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When I was broken at the bottom, I found you're my healer and redeemer, Jesus.
That's who you are.
You drop me tragedy.
You turn my song into a ceremony.
And we'll just give silently.
I'm a new creation.
Oh, oh, oh, oh.
Oh, oh, oh, oh.
But it was until I stumbled and made my mistakes that I could know in my soul how How amazing was great.
Welcome back to Just Formed Talk Radio.
I am your host, Craig James with Nick.
No, Nick, final thought for the show.
My final thought for the show, Craig, is that uh, you know, with with everything going on, it's all kabuki theater.
I wouldn't get too involved emotionally in it.
Just sit back and wait and watch the smoke clear and uh we'll get clear indications of what's going on, who's a part of it, and so on.
Uh but you know, uh as we go on, we keep seeing more and more of these wins from the Trump administration, whether it's rescuing children or it's lowering interest rates, we are winning.
It's great, it feels good.
Uh, you know, but whenever the the really bad news comes for the in the people who have not listened or paid attention to what's really happening, it's gonna be hard for them.
So be be kind to your family, be kind to your friends who are just waking up.
And remember that uh in the end, God wins.
Amen.
Amen.
And you know, I want to give a bit of um wisdom that we can find in Scripture today.
We're gonna go to Philippians chapter three.
I'm gonna read this to you, verse twelve and thirteen.
It says this.
Not that I have already reached the goal or am already fully mature, but I make every effort to take hold of it because I also have been taken hold of by Christ Jesus.
Brothers, I do not consider myself to have taken hold of it, but one thing I do, forgetting what is behind and reaching forward to what is ahead.
And I love This verse.
Because for anybody out there who perhaps is holding on to something that has been a part of your life that you've tried to let go, but seems to continue to keep hold of you.
What's amazing in this letter to the church at Philippi is that the instruction given is on how to reach full maturity in Christ.
And that's to live with Christ inside of you every day and to let go of the things that are behind and reach forward to what is ahead.
So wherever you're at in your life today, I want you to look deeply into yourself, look into the mirror, and allow yourself to let go of those things that are holding you back and look forward to the promises that are ahead.
Give glory to God.
Help one another.
Honor God with your life.
Live righteously as best you can.
And uh I believe that that you will be blessed in so many different ways.
And if you want to know how to do that in a very powerful way, that maybe you don't know yet, or you did know at one point and you think you may have lost.
I want you to open your heart, say a prayer, call upon the name of Jesus Christ, accept him as your Lord and Savior, and let him help you forget what is behind and look forward to what is ahead.
So that's where I'm gonna leave it.
Thank you guys for listening and being with us.
We'll be back tomorrow, God willing.
Myself and Nick No.
Do it all over again.
Thanks to Nick No.
Thanks to the audience, thanks to everybody who uh contributes.
We we really do appreciate it.
We'll be back again tomorrow, same time, same place.
Until then, I'm your host, Craig James with Nick No.
We'll see you on the next one.
Godspeed and God bless each and every one of you Patriots.