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	I'm your host, Craig James.
	What a day.
	We have a lot to cover.
	We have some interesting stories to get into.
	It's going to be a fun day.
	I'm going to try to really keep this relaxed and pleasant.
	We're not going to get too serious today, but I'm sure we'll cover topics that are very serious, you know?
	I'm always happy, though, to be joined by my co-host and friend.
	You guys all know him.
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	Our good friend, co-host Nick Ngo.
	Nick, welcome to the show.
	It's always good to have you on, brother.
	Hey, good morning, Craig.
	It is a beautiful Friday.
	We've got a lot to talk about.
	Some really interesting stuff.
	I wrote a love letter that I want to read out loud for everybody.
	And we'll be doing that in a little bit.
	You know, I mean, it's like, will that be the cliffhanger that keeps you listening?
	Probably.
	I'd be interested to hear what that letter has to say, even though I've already heard it.
	I'd love to hear it again.
	We'll talk about that in a bit.
	You know, we don't want to just jump right into it.
	But we have stories we want to talk about.
	Some of the interesting things I saw posted over the last 24 hours.
	You know...
	I found this interview and I just thought it was absolutely amazing.
	Doge, apparently, was allowed...
	Jesse Waters from Fox News, you know, every now and then...
	See, the fake news is interesting because it's like a broken clock.
	It's not that they're wrong all the time.
	They may be right a couple times a day about...
	And they may give you some scoops that are interesting, but I just ignore it most of the time because it's usually wrong.
	However, Jesse Waters did an interesting piece last night, I guess, where he interviewed the entire Doge team who's in charge of basically auditing the federal government.
	And man, it was so revealing.
	It would be the best way to put it.
	And it really does peel back the layers and the veils to give you a good idea of what's actually happening inside of our government.
	And I have the full segment that I want to play here because, look, you know, in my opinion, this is one of the most transparent governments we've had in years, if not decades.
	And that's the kind of thing that we voted for, and I'm very happy it's happening.
	And there are people out there who have the most pessimistic way of looking at things, right, Nick?
	It's just, I mean, they think everything's, you know, against them and everything.
	And I just, why would you want to live your life that way, Nick?
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	Why would you want to get up every day and think the world's against you and everything's bad and broken?
	And I just don't.
	Doesn't that seem kind of dark and depressing?
	It's a victim.
	It's a victim mentality.
	Whoever's thinking that way, you need to toughen up, puff out your chest, and be a man if you're a man.
	And if you're a woman, be a woman, but don't be anything in between.
	Be a man!
	Rub some dirt in it!
	I mean, honestly, though, I...
	I get it.
	You know, it can be depressing sometimes, dark, you know, demoralizing.
	But you gotta have, like Nick said, you gotta be a man or a woman.
	Rub the dirt in it, you know?
	Go play in the mud, as they used to tell us.
	When I was a kid, you know, the world was a different place.
	I'm sure many of you are in that same boat.
	But I want to play this clip.
	It's about a half-hour segment.
	I'm going to play it in sort of...
	We'll start it now, and then we'll play some more later, and we'll play some more.
	And then, you know, from time to time, we'll kind of stop it and discuss some of the things that are being uncovered in it.
	But it's just an incredible piece, and it's such an incredible insight that I don't think I've ever had into the...
	You know, government and waste, fraud, and abuse.
	The viewpoint.
	And you've got to remember, the team here of this Doge is a bunch of basically guys who are, you know, middle to younger age.
	And they are just smart dudes who are going through and auditing the federal government and they're spending.
	And it's really telling.
	Let's play it and then we'll pause it here and there and talk about it.
	Let's listen.
	Elon Musk was nice enough to invite us into the Eisenhower building last night to sit in on his weekly 10 p.m.
	Doge meeting.
	Yeah, they usually meet at 10 o 'clock.
	I'm almost in bed by then.
	We met the whole crew, even big balls, and they showed us how Doge really gets done.
	We sat back, listened, and we learned a lot, and we hope you do too.
	Here's part one of our exclusive interview.
	Elon, thank you so much for bringing us to the meeting here.
	I'm going to do something no anchor ever does.
	I'm not going to talk.
	What?
	For as long as possible.
	You're talking right now.
	I'm going to let you run your meeting, and then I'll interrupt when I'm bored.
	So take it away.
	So, like a bored meeting?
	Like a bored meeting.
	Exactly.
	All right.
	Well, I guess we normally go around the table and say, what do we get done this week?
	We'll start with you.
	So, actually, a lot of great work at the Treasury this week.
	One of the crazy things with regards to the Treasury is that when a payment is made and the computers at the Treasury actually pay about $5 trillion per year, like crazy amounts, There was formerly not a budget code on there.
	So if some payment was made, you didn't know actually what it was for.
	It could have been for anything.
	There was a $4 billion COVID fund in the Department of Education.
	And there was no receipts required, so people could just draw down on it.
	And when people looked into it, this wasn't dust, this was before us, they found that money was being used to rent out Caesar's Palace for parties, rent out stadiums, etc.
	And so the one change that Doge made with the Department of Education is we had the simple requirement that if you draw down money, you must first upload a receipt.
	That was the only change that was made.
	You must upload your receipt.
	And upon doing so, nobody drew down any money anymore.
	Yes, but we didn't say that we'd check the receipt.
	You could send a fake receipt.
	You could send a picture of your dog.
	Anything.
	And as soon as we asked for anything at all, suddenly the requests were like, oh, we don't need it anymore.
	Huh, that's interesting.
	They were renting Caesar's palace.
	Yes, like basically partying on the tax chair of money.
	Stadiums?
	Yes.
	Leasing stadiums?
	Leasing stadiums.
	For what?
	For parties, basically.
	For parties?
	Yes.
	That's a big party.
	It's a big party.
	You'd think if you were stealing, you'd start small.
	They do start small.
	But then what happens is, over the years, so generally the fraud starts out small and they try to hide it.
	But then year after year, if nobody stops the fraud, it gets more and more brazen, and every year it gets bigger, until they're literally renting out stadiums.
	What's that, a million dollars to rent out a stadium?
	Fraud in for granted electo, okay?
	We're talking...
	Alright, so that's kind of the beginning of it, and it gets even worse, Nick.
	I don't even know.
	$4 billion fund that they're just drawing down to rent out stadiums and go have parties at Caesar Palace.
	I mean, and you wonder why all the fake news reporters are so vitriolically against the Doge thing.
	I think it's because of the corruption, maybe.
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	I'm your host, Craig James, with Nick Ngo.
	Nick, I mean, $4 billion and there's no accountability.
	And this is just the first example of, you know, the most random thing.
	Because they're at this board meeting.
	And to paint the picture for everybody listening, they're sitting in a boardroom, basically.
	I think it's in the Eisenhower Building in D.C. And there's just a bunch of people sitting around a boardroom table.
	And they literally just go to the first guy in line and like, okay, what'd you find this week?
	And he's like, well, you know, we audited the Treasury and, you know, there's $4 billion that they just, you know, are drawing down from that they use for renting out stadiums and parties at Caesars Palace in Las Vegas or wherever in Atlantic City,
	whichever, I don't know, wherever the heck it is.
	And it's like...
	You wonder why the Democrats who've, you know, embedded themselves in this system and are abusing it and exploiting it to the maximum effect are losing, they're not even losing their minds.
	They're programming their minions to their NPC bots to lose their mind over this.
	What?
	I mean, Nick, let me ask something.
	Is it just that they all are that evil and corrupt?
	Because I'm trying to wrap my head around it.
	The news tells them, like, they're going to take away your Social Security because Doge hates people being healthy and safe.
	And then...
	It's like, well, what did Doge find?
	Well, you know, $4 billion fund was used for parties in Vegas or Atlantic City and renting out stadiums for who knows what.
	But, you know, but they're going to take away Grandpa's Social Security, so you better hate them and go attack them.
	It's insane, right?
	Yeah, what's really insane is that the Democrat Party, they understand that with, you know, the IQ scale, on the left-hand side of that scale, there's plenty of people who can vote for you.
	They understand that those people can vote for them, and they're stupid.
	So what they do is target them.
	And some of them aren't like, they aren't literally, you know, maybe they're not stupid, they're just...
	Ignorant.
	Yeah, yeah.
	They just don't pay attention.
	Yeah, see?
	And there's somewhere...
	And this is why they have to...
	Sorry to interrupt, but this is why they have to pre-program everyone to...
	Have these preconceived notions about what Doge is doing so that they ignore it, as they've done with everything else.
	Because even if a person of average intelligence who doesn't pay attention, who's not dumb by any means, but just doesn't pay attention, I mean, if they listen to this sort of...
	What we've listened to in the first three minutes, they're like...
	Well, no, I don't want my taxpayer money going for lavish parties in Caesar's Palace or renting out stadiums to have a huge, you know, party.
	That seems like a waste of money, and that seems like abuse of power.
	I mean, like, even the most non-aware, unaware person, you know?
	Right, Nick?
	Yeah, they could have built a castle to party in with that much money.
	They're stupid.
	Those guys are stupid.
	They could have used that money to build a cool house to party at every time and it just paid off.
	But they're too stupid to do that.
	Well, you know, I mean, if they want to give me the money, I will make you and I, Nick, and all of our listeners a big party castle.
	We'll just go hang out there all the time.
	Four billion, Craig.
	Four billion.
	What could you build with four billion?
	I mean, you could literally...
	I mean, I don't even know.
	You could rebuild an entire town.
	You could make the world...
	I could buy a country.
	I could buy an island and make several islands.
	There's probably some country in South America or Africa that you could purchase for that.
	That amount of money.
	I mean, I don't mean physically purchase, literally purchase the people, but you could probably buy off enough government officials to become the president or something.
	Of like, you know, tobacco.
	I don't know.
	Like, you're just like, hey, all right, four billion.
	Like, who do I got to bribe around here to become president?
	They're like, oh, okay, here you go, sir.
	Anywho, let's keep listening to this because it just gets bad.
	It gets better while getting worse.
	You'll understand in a minute.
	Let's listen.
	At scale.
	This is driving me crazy.
	When you find these things, do you guys get mad?
	And you're like, yes, I got one.
	How does it...
	How does it make you feel?
	It's so common.
	It's so common.
	I mean, you just get numb to it.
	Unfortunately, by the hundredth time you've heard it, it's hard not to get a little numb.
	And by the 200th time, you're like, well, okay.
	It's just another day at the office.
	We checked.
	Is the Small Business Administration giving loans to dead people, people over the age of 120?
	The answer was yes, and it was around $330 million in total.
	People with a birthday that could not possibly be real, meaning they're 115 years old or older.
	The oldest living American is 114.
	So the safe to say, if anybody is in the system as 115 years or older, that is fake.
	So just by sharing a database and looking at social security numbers, that showed that at the time of the loan, they had listed as over 115 years old, or actually under 11. We didn't even check for under 18. Under 11 years old.
	That's pretty clear.
	Babies and dead people were getting loans.
	That was $660 million.
	And also people with birthdates in the future.
	What does that mean?
	Well, in one case...
	Like, the birthdate...
	The birthdate, I think, in one case was like...
	Fetuses were getting...
	No, not even.
	No, really sort of a...
	You're talking about, like, your great-grandchildren.
	Like, with the birthdate, I think it was like 2165.
	So more than...
	A century from now.
	Where's the birthday?
	George Jetson was getting paid.
	Yes, because your birthday is in the future, like the far future, not like next year.
	And we either, this is either fraudulent, or we have your birthday wrong.
	It's either a typo or someone's stealing.
	Which is it?
	You should at least ask, which is it?
	Do you guys feel you're getting justice?
	Alright, I gotta pause there.
	So, Nick.
	First of all, where do I get access to this money?
	Who is taking this money?
	First of all, I want some.
	If it's like we're just giving out money for free, I would love to just find out where that's happening and get involved with it.
	I'm not saying I want to fraudulently steal money, but hell, it sounds like the government is just giving it to anybody.
	You could go in.
	This system is so broken.
	They're just throwing it away.
	You could put your birthday in the year 2165, which I'm not a mathematician, Nick, but I'm pretty sure that you can't be alive if that's when you were born.
	And you get money.
	I don't get it.
	You make this make sense for me, Nick.
	Maybe you have a different take, something I'm missing.
	This is the best part.
	When you create software, Craig, you must write the code, test the code, have the users test the product, and then you find the bugs or whatever needs to be improved, and then you do it over and over and over again until you have a finished software product.
	So picture this.
	They created a software product that allows For the system to do that, you have to do that with intent.
	You have to do that with intent.
	Nothing on the internet works without lots of hard work for making your page load.
	It's not just a little picture on there.
	There's actually a whole bunch of data behind that beautiful screen you see.
	And so for people, to put it in perspective, it was designed this way.
	Yeah, or they outsourced it to some guy in India who doesn't know what the hell he's doing.
	And they're like, well, you know, we have a contractor for that.
	And it's like, hello, how are you, my friend?
	I will write the call for you.
	Okay.
	Yes, birthday.
	Yes, 2165.
	Okay.
	That's the guy.
	That's the one.
	I swear if you look up that guy, it's probably that guy who made the software.
	Yes.
	Okay, now everybody from India, go take a loan out now.
	The government is giving this money away for free.
	Yeah, how many people from foreign countries are born?
	Yeah.
	This has got to be illegal.
	I'm pretty sure this is legal.
	But, you know, it's like, I don't know, man.
	I'm at the point now where it's like, it's funny, but it's also like...
	Okay, I get it.
	This is why they hate what Doge is doing, because they are literally robbing us blind, and nobody to date has ever had this level of transparency in government spending.
	And I guess thanks to Trump, I mean, thanks to him and what he's doing, and Elon even.
	Though I don't like Elon, which I always throw it in there, but I just don't...
	I'm not going to get into that.
	But thanks to Elon for doing it because it's absolutely infuriating.
	But Jesse goes on and he asks the question, do you guys feel like there's justice in this?
	And I want to hear their answers.
	So let's just listen to some more.
	And accountability?
	The extreme examples of non-accountability in some cases has occurred at some of the small agencies.
	I think the Inter-American Foundation, IAF, is one of the agencies we visited where they get $50 million a year congressional money to give grants.
	These are things like alpaca farming in Peru.
	That's a real example.
	Yes, that's the real description.
	Improving the marketability of peas in Guatemala.
	Really?
	Fruit Jam.
	What?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	So you might expect, you know, in the private sector, a nonprofit to give, you know, 80 to 90 percent of their money to grantees.
	In the case of IAF, that was 58 percent.
	So the other half goes towards management, travel.
	Exactly.
	I mean, to use an example, is that...
	Even if you agreed with supporting alpaca farmers in Peru, well, actually, most of the money never made it out of D.C. It's going into the pockets of people in the neighborhood.
	And didn't even get to Peru.
	Right.
	So what percentage do you think doesn't even get to the destination it's supposed to?
	I believe the GAO estimates, this is not our estimate, I believe it was on the order of...
	Only 10 to 15 cents on the dollar actually gets to the end recipient, whether you agree with that cause or not.
	So they're just stealing the money before it even gets anywhere.
	There's layers of stealing.
	So there's the first layer of stealing, second layer of stealing, third layer of stealing.
	Subcontractor, subcontractor, subcontractor.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Contractor, subcontractor, subcontractor.
	It's like peeling an onion.
	And then maybe, and sometimes it's zero.
	You get to the bottom of the onion, there's nothing there.
	So maybe no one got a sex change in Guatemala.
	It's possible that no one got a sex change in Guatemala.
	Oh, hello, my friend.
	I have an alpaca farm in Peru.
	Would you please give me $50,000, please?
	Nick, what do you think?
	I feel like I should start an alpaca farm.
	That's what I feel like is the next logical step in my life.
	What do you think?
	Oh my gosh.
	That was a big craze in the 90s, you know that?
	No, no, I'm serious.
	I'm dead serious.
	I'm going to start an alpaca farm and I'm going to improve the marketability of peas in Guatemala for sex changes for transgender, you know, animals.
	So I think this is good.
	I think we're getting to the bottom of some of the...
	But how can a logical person, like, listen to this stuff and go, hmm, this is all very...
	I really want my hundreds of millions of dollars going to alpaca farming in Peru and, you know, marketability of peas.
	I mean, I don't think peas get the respect they deserve, you know?
	It's like you go to the store, they're on the shelf.
	So, I don't know.
	Alright.
	We'll keep going.
	Believe me, it gets more absurd, folks.
	I'm sure we'll just...
	We gotta listen to this thing.
	Alright, stay tuned.
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	Welcome back to Just Form Talk Radio.
	I'm your host, Craig James, with Nick Ngo.
	And, Nick, I have very mixed feelings about all of these revelations we're finding through this Doge interview.
	With Jesse Waters that we're listening to over from Fox News where, you know, they're interviewing all of the Doge team members and going through all of the waste, fraud, and abuse and things that they're uncovering.
	Because part of me is, like, pissed off.
	Part of me is kind of laughing at it.
	But then there's a part of me that wants to start an alpaca farm.
	So I'm mixed on how I feel about this because I feel like...
	It's like a wink and a nod, like, if you want to just get free money for doing nothing, start, like, some kind of, like, we need to rebrand maybe this radio show and make it, like, about diverse, you know,
	animal farming or something.
	I don't know.
	Like, we need to, like, and then we can go to the government and then they'll just give us money.
	And then we don't have to use it for the thing that we, you know, say we're using it for, really.
	We can just go do whatever the hell we want with it.
	Like, I don't know.
	I don't know.
	What would I do with all that money?
	Man, I might buy one of those riding lawnmowers, man.
	I think that's so cool.
	I'm getting old, though.
	Maybe I'm not good at...
	Spending money wastefully.
	But, man, you ever seen those John Deere riding tractors?
	Man, I want one so bad.
	They're pretty sweet.
	Dude, I got that push mower that sucks.
	It doesn't even have the thing where it drives itself.
	I gotta push the damn thing.
	And it sucks.
	It's so much work.
	John Deere, if you're listening, give us a call, baby.
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	And hey, if they want, if it makes them feel better, I'll start an alpaca farm on my property.
	And then it can subsidize through the government, maybe.
	So we can work that into the deal, too.
	Maybe we have John Deere sponsor the alpaca farm so that we can...
	I don't know.
	I mean, I'm just thinking out loud here.
	This is a brainstorming session, if nothing else, right?
	Nick, what do you think?
	The James Noe farms, you know?
	I think it could work.
	We could call it Tegrity Farms.
	Oh, it's so funny you should say that.
	Because I was just thinking of, there is a South Park reference I was thinking of where...
	And it's random, but it kind of reminded me of it where they do the woke stuff with Disney.
	And Cartman becomes Kathleen Kennedy, I think.
	And it's...
	What is it?
	Let's see.
	Let me see if I can get this here.
	Sorry, I didn't mean that.
	I didn't listen to that before.
	Excuse the language, but the point is...
	My high body, I do what I want.
	Yeah, we're having way too much fun here today, but forgive the language.
	That was not intentional.
	Let's go back to this doge board meeting.
	I want to listen to more of this.
	Let's listen.
	I overheard a contractor tell one of her colleagues to falsify billable hours by creating a PowerPoint to mask a delay in the onboarding process in front of me.
	And this is like hour zero at this agency.
	And so, I mean, this is just a common theme that you take a look at these contracts, you take a look at these grants, and it's veiled in noble rhetoric.
	You know, it's at the top level.
	It sounds good.
	Yeah, it sounds amazing.
	And then you actually just follow what are the funds...
	Well, send us a picture.
	Exactly.
	The send us a picture request is incredibly good.
	Like, pics or it didn't happen.
	And it wouldn't be that hard to just, frankly, they could search for some fake pics on the internet or get AI to generate the pics, but they don't even bother doing that.
	You caught them cold, billing fraud.
	I caught them, her advising her colleague to do this because it takes a few days to onboard.
	That is being investigated right now.
	Yeah, I mean, generally, like, these programs, these grants are going to be, like, along the lines of Save the Baby Pandas.
	And it's like, well, of course, who wouldn't want to save the baby pandas?
	And, you know, in some cases, they've got a show panda, which they will try it out for special occasions.
	In a lot of cases, they don't even have a show panda.
	No panda.
	There's not even one panda.
	Because we asked for pictures.
	We don't even get one panda.
	And it's like, well, that's a lot.
	What does a billion dollars get you?
	Does it not even get you one panda?
	You really want to see a baby panda?
	Yeah.
	Well, like the Ebola money.
	We're like, okay, well, we agree with we shouldn't have Ebola.
	Where is the money going?
	Oh, it's going to Deloitte in D.C. What is an accounting firm doing with Ebola money?
	What has been the biggest resistance?
	Is there one agency, is there one department that when you guys walk in, they all start fighting you, start hiding things?
	Wait, I thought you weren't going to talk.
	I'm sorry.
	But I guess you can answer that question, sure.
	I mean, yes, we've certainly had some battles.
	Battles?
	Yeah, yeah.
	I mean, who should talk about you, sir?
	There's a small agency called the United States Institute of Peace.
	It's definitely the agency we had the most to fight at.
	We actually went into the agency and found that they had loaded guns inside of their headquarters.
	Institute for Peace.
	Any given organizational name is going to be the opposite of the title.
	Right.
	Yeah, so it was by far the least peaceful agency that we've worked with, ironically.
	Of course.
	Additionally, we found that they were spending money on things like private jets, and they even had a $130,000 contract with a former member of the Taliban.
	This is real.
	We don't encounter that at most agencies.
	What was the money going to the Taliban for?
	So it was a contractor.
	They received $130,000 for generic services.
	And to Elon's point, there was not actually a clear description of what the contractor services were for.
	Was it for opium?
	Unclear.
	Or weapons?
	Or nothing.
	Or nothing.
	Or abroad.
	And you naturally have to ask the question, how did we get here?
	When the country was founded, there were only four agencies.
	Today there are over 400.
	So there's been a 100x increase in the number of agencies since the founding of the nation.
	And thanks to President Trump, he's now signed two executive orders to start to reduce the number of agencies in the government, and the Institute of Peace was one of them, which is why our team went in to try and understand what was going on.
	And that's when we found all of the craziness, like the weapons in their armory.
	we found the payments to the Taliban.
	OK. The accountants, too.
	Oh, yeah.
	So you--
	Right, so just a few hours after we got into their headquarters, we found that their chief accountant had actually deleted over a terabyte of accounting records from several years.
	So you'd have to ask the question, well, why would somebody do that?
	And the Doge team, unfortunately, was able to recover that data with the help of a few great employees at the Institute of Peace.
	And I think the most troubling thing was they received $55 million a year from Congress, and any money that went unspent, instead of returning that to Congress, they would sweep it into a private bank account, which had no congressional oversight, and that's what they would use to fund.
	At the Institute of Peace.
	That's right.
	So this is a cover-up.
	When you guys roll in.
	This one is a cover-up.
	It's a cover-up.
	They did delete a vast amount of financial information.
	That's really a definition of a cover-up.
	Wow.
	That's fun.
	Deleting evidence as they're being exposed.
	I think that's a felony, if I'm not mistaken.
	But who knows?
	We'll talk about that more when we come back.
	Everybody stay tuned.
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	Welcome back to Just Informed Talk Radio.
	I'm your host, Craig James, with Nick Ngo.
	Nick, what do you think of all of it?
	Oh, of the money missing and all of that?
	Yeah, I mean, this Doge thing in its totality.
	What are we really getting?
	I mean, the Institute of Peace has an armory, and they're sending millions of dollars to the Taliban and deleting records upon the audit of their...
	Does that sound like, you know, a standard operating procedure or is that something that we should be a little concerned about?
	It doesn't sound very anti-war to have all the weapons and everything like that.
	I think in the end, Craig, we're going to find out that a lot of these payments were paid to people as placeholders.
	They'll give people $5 million from USAID, and then Hillary Clinton or whoever will say, hey, listen, I'm giving you $10 million, but at any given time, I need access to $5 million, and you need to give it to me when I need it.
	Deal?
	Okay, cool.
	And that's how, you know, this whole thing with Haiti and trafficking children, one of the people, local officials got paid $5 million to look the other way while Hillary kidnapped all the kids.
	And that was with USAID money, USAID money, USAID money through the Clinton Foundation.
	So, if any, you know, government, you know.
	You know, investigators are listening.
	Go ahead.
	It's all there.
	Use the doge if you have to.
	You can audit.
	Go straight to that person in Haiti and see where that money went.
	If you do an audit of the Clinton Foundation, I know that's still going on.
	Yeah, I mean, come on.
	It leads to all kinds of stuff.
	But ultimately, that's what it is, Craig.
	You know, you...
	I mean, if you don't...
	Okay, if someone offers you $10 million and you don't know that they're bad, you don't know that they're evil or anything, I don't know, but you're going to assume at least something's off if they're going to get $10 million and ask for $5 million later, whether up to $5 million.
	But I don't know.
	I just think that a lot of people are godless, and they don't have any morals, and they'll just take the money.
	And that's a lot of people.
	And that's why we ended up in this position, and it got so corrupt.
	People just kept taking the money, knowing we've gone so far from God in our country.
	I think you're hitting the nail on the head.
	I mean, it's like there are people out there, myself, you, and probably many of the, if not all the people who are listening, who have that sort of internal, you know, moral compass to say, I will not do these things,
	not just because, you know, I'm not going to do them just because I can, but I'm also not going to do them because they're wrong.
	I think what happens, it seems like, it's like Elon was saying earlier, he's like, it starts small and then it gets big because people always think, you know, they're entitled to it, right?
	The government, oh, well, the government's taken from me, so I should take from them, you know?
	And I see this happen often, like...
	In the real world, people who go to the grocery, right, and you have the self-checkout and you forget to scan an item one week, which happens.
	I'm sure we've all had that, right?
	I don't go back the next week and say, you know what?
	They didn't say anything last week and, you know, this big grocery chain's got enough money.
	Let me just take everything else, you know.
	Let me see how much I can get away with not scanning by quote-unquote accident because I'm not a crappy person.
	You know, I'm not a bad, I don't have that instinct.
	But there are people, like you said, who have that, you know, instinct inside of them, right?
	Or don't have that, you know, that threshold that they, you know, stand behind and will not cross.
	They will cross it every time.
	And I think that's what we're getting the picture of.
	I just saw the funniest thing was yesterday.
	Steven Crowder, you know, he's got that mug club, and they go undercover kind of in the Project Veritas, O 'Keefe Media vein of undercover journalism.
	They got some guy from the refugee service in ICE.
	He works as like a processor there.
	They got him on camera, and it was funny because he said, I mean, like, these are his words.
	He said, I've been working at this agency for X amount of years, and I recently, or not too long ago, found out that basically everybody working in government is gay, lesbian, or has a toxic relationship.
	And I thought to myself, man, that does explain a lot.
	That does explain a lot, you know, is to the behaviors.
	These are very immoral people who have...
	You know, degraded, they've debased themselves to the level of engaging in these sort of demonic and evil proclivities.
	And this is what justifies all of their actions.
	You know, they don't have any sort of, you know, there was a time in America, and I don't want to sound like one of those old guys, get off my lawn, you kids, but there was a time in America where people had, You know, a lot of this stuff would be unheard of, right?
	Like, you wouldn't do this kind of stuff.
	Yeah, it would be rejected.
	Immediately rejected by society.
	They would be reined in really quickly.
	And that's, to me, how you know that society is falling into this sort of downward spiral.
	But we can get out of it.
	It's not impossible.
	Go ahead.
	Well, what they do, Craig, they try and label sinning as progressive.
	It's progressive to steal from people and give to these other people who've done nothing.
	It's progressive to steal.
	It's progressive.
	No, it's not just progressive.
	They just justify their sinning.
	It's like it's virtuous, you know?
	Yeah, they're insane, dude.
	All of them are insane.
	It's really bad.
	You know, and it's like they justify.
	I think they think of themselves as like Robin Hood.
	They're like, well, we're helping alpaca farmers in Peru.
	What are you doing?
	I'm helping the gay alpaca farmers.
	Yeah, and it's like, meanwhile, they're buying out Caesar's Palace and flying on private jets to go pay off Taliban members.
	And you're like, wait, but you justify all that because of the gay alpaca farmers in Peru?
	I don't know.
	Make it make sense.
	It doesn't!
	Yeah, just like that hot dog party that Obama threw.
	Yeah, 65,000 in hot dogs.
	It's the exact amount about how much Keith Bernier charges when he flew his charter.
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	Is that illegal to delete evidence?
	Yes.
	Shred documents?
	It is.
	It's certainly illegal to delete accounting records that Congress would certainly want to know where the congressionally appropriated funds are going from taxpayers.
	When you catch them going Hillary-style on their computers, do you refer this to the Department of Justice?
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	Resistance has shown up in some very surprising places.
	So for example, the famous fork in the road email, the deferred resignation program.
	So this was a program where you could resign from the government, collect pay and benefits for the next eight months.
	Probably the most attractive separation program ever in human history.
	And the resistance actually came from...
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	I heard somebody refer to it as an apple with a razor blade.
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	We did have about 80,000 people take it, and now those folks who did take it are on the beach, or they've moved on to a new job, and they're still getting paid.
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	Is Doge just getting started?
	This is a long-term enterprise.
	It's a long-term enterprise, because if we take our eye off the ball, the waste and fraud will come roaring back.
	They can Doge Doge.
	When Democrats get back in power.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, well, I think some of the things that, like, we're trying to have it be such that the funding is removed, so the grants are gone.
	So there's a lot of work required to restart the waste of fraud.
	And that will at least slow it down.
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	All right.
	So, I mean, there's another segment here.
	It's about another 15 minutes or so, maybe a little less.
	We'll get to that in the second hour.
	I want to listen to the whole thing because there's even more, right?
	Nick, it's the infomercial.
	But wait, there's even more, you know?
	So that's what we're going to get into.
	I think that the corruption is such that...
	I hope they can fix it, but at least if they shine a light on it and make it, you know, scream it from the top of the mountain, then when Democrats eventually, which unfortunately they probably will eventually get back in power,
	when they come in and they cut all this out, you've got to be like, okay, well...
	So you're cutting it out so you can go basically defraud us and steal from us even more now?
	Right?
	I think that's the thing.
	Yeah.
	I don't think we're going back.
	There's no going back.
	You can't put the toothpaste back in the tube, Craig.
	No.
	You can't.
	It's going to be interesting.
	It's going to be interesting.
	And there's some funny stuff coming up.
	Stay tuned.
	We'll get into that, plus some other interesting stories in the second hour.
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	It's hour two of the Just The Forum Talk Radio show.
	We have a lot more to cover.
	I want to play more of this interview with the Doge team, which is so illuminating.
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	Okay.
	So, Nick, it's hour two and we have more to cover.
	I want to keep going in this, you know, story that we're covering.
	But a couple funny and interesting...
	Text came in.
	So our friend, I believe this is Kevin, called or texted in and said, it rubs the dirt in the wound or else it gets the hose again.
	That one did make me laugh.
	It's a little Silence of the Lambs reference in case anybody's wondering.
	He also texted in and said, the media claims Doge and the Trump administration is taking away Social Security, but the unsaid part is the Social Security that is being taken away is being paid to dead people.
	Yeah.
	No, I mean, or it's being paid to, like you said, Nick, gay alpaca farmers.
	One or the other.
	We're not sure which, but we're definitely sure it's not being paid to people who do it.
	Are they lesbians or are they gay dudes?
	Because one trumps the other right.
	I don't know.
	Isn't that the rules?
	Just a sidebar to that.
	The most confusing thing to me I've ever seen is when...
	A man tries to become a woman through the transgender thing and then says that they want to be a lesbian.
	I've never for the life of me been able to put that one together in my head.
	It's like you're just going through a lot of very weird and uncomfortable steps to...
	Be a heterosexual man.
	You know what I mean?
	Yeah.
	You're putting in extra steps, man.
	You're making it too complicated.
	I always sit back and think, man, that's strange.
	That's got to be mental illness.
	That's got to be.
	Well, anyway, that's interesting.
	Also, somebody texted in from the 307 and said, remember these same people want to take your guns while refusing to make schools safe.
	They could give 50 grand every school.
	For an SRO, I'm not sure what that stands for, an officer, a police officer maybe, a security officer, and have plenty left over.
	They don't care about kids.
	They want control.
	That I agree with.
	I think that's probably one of the more accurate ways of describing what all of this is about.
	And it's funny.
	They don't just want control.
	It's control so they can exploit it for their benefit, right?
	They want the control of the purse and the money so they can pay themselves, right?
	I mean, that seems like a reasonable thing for them to want to do.
	Also, our friend Henry texted in and said, don't make the mistake thinking that it's just Democrats defrauding the taxpayers.
	This has taken a lot of years through politicians on both sides to get us where we are today.
	Thank you, Henry.
	I appreciate that.
	I would be remiss if I didn't mention the fact that this is not an exclusively Democrat issue.
	This is an issue of politics in general and corruption in government in general.
	And this is why I don't...
	You know, there's an old movie, right?
	It's an old movie with James Stewart, right?
	Jimmy Stewart.
	Is that his name?
	Gosh darn it.
	I'm forgetting.
	Anyway.
	James Stewart, Jimmy Stewart, the famous actor, where it's called Mr. Smith Goes to Washington, and it's about this sort of noble, altruistic, good guy who just gets into politics because of necessity, basically.
	And he goes to Washington, and he basically tries to clean it up because it's such a cesspool.
	And it's from the 1950s, I think.
	But it's a great film.
	It's an old black-and-white film.
	But it's a great film.
	We would need a lot of Mr. Smiths to go to Washington to fix this problem.
	And even then, you know, the Institute of Peace has an armory.
	Maybe the Institute of Peace is not spelled like P-E-A-C-E.
	Maybe it's the Institute of Peace.
	Like, yo, don't touch my peace, fool.
	Peace is a common way of referring to a weapon.
	So maybe that's what's happening there.
	Yeah, I think the Institute of Peace would have something to say about all that.
	Well, if they stop getting the money for their pieces, then they're going to have to make shanks, Craig.
	Yeah, could you imagine?
	Now with the Institute of Navs, man.
	With the Institute of Shanks, there's probably some cool way I could make that funnier.
	But the point is, there is such waste, fraud, and abuse across government that...
	It really is shocking.
	I'm glad I got through the text.
	So our friend Kevin texted and said, SRO is school resource officer, which is usually a member of the local sheriff's department.
	Yeah, I mean, I think it's good to have school resource officers.
	I'm more of a Second Amendment extremist, if you will.
	I think all the teachers should just be packing and that would take care of that.
	Absolutely.
	Let that problem fix itself.
	Although, I don't know if I want some of these lunatic, blue-haired teachers with rainbow flags packing around kids.
	That could be dangerous.
	But I don't know.
	It's a sordid issue.
	We'll have to figure it out after this break.
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	Welcome back to Just Forum Talk Radio.
	I'm your host, Craig James with Nick Ngo.
	And we're just going to go back and listen to some more of the revelatory findings from this Doge, transparent Doge board meeting.
	Let's listen to it.
	We're back.
	Part two.
	The exclusive interview with Elon Musk and the Doge boys.
	They took us inside the caves of bureaucracy.
	Watch this.
	We heard about a cave.
	We had federal workers working in a cave.
	That's me.
	Yeah.
	Joe's actually been to the cave.
	Do you want to tell us about your cave?
	You're caving.
	You're caving.
	I went mining.
	You're spelunking.
	So I've been helping out with retirement.
	I've been helping out with retirement.
	And a few weeks ago, I had a chance to go to the mine.
	And so I took a golf cart through security down into the side of a mountain and entered Daylight Left, and I entered this whole space of caverns and roads.
	And we get to a metal door, and I open it up.
	And there in front of me is a sea of filing cabinets from the 1960s.
	And I'm walking around.
	It's super chilly.
	It smells like paper.
	And I realize, as a mine, it's a great mine.
	It's secure.
	It's well lit.
	Temperature controlled.
	And so the question we're asking is not, is this a good place to store physical media?
	Which it is.
	It's amazing for that.
	The question is, why are we still using paper in 2025?
	So I brought something to show you.
	Yeah.
	Of what's inside the money.
	And normally, the normal process for retirement is, it'll be over six months.
	So once you file your retirement papers, that's why it takes six months.
	What is that?
	Replica case folders that people use to retire from the government.
	And so these are all compiled by hand, moved around on carts through the mine.
	It takes many months to do that.
	And this one is a single retiree's paper required to leave the government.
	If somebody wants to retire, they can't because it takes six months to compile the paper and carry the paper into a mine where it is stored.
	And also, all the calculations are done by hand.
	Everything has to be done by cash.
	Reconciled, adjudicated, this is thicker than the Word of the Rings trilogy.
	And if I had to process this, I would rather do my taxes in the dark than have to go through this.
	And so what we're doing is we're bringing this process online with modern software.
	And I'm excited to share that as of tonight, we have 25 retirees.
	Going through an entirely online retirement process in the government for the very first time.
	It sounds so simple.
	Yes, and it's great collaboration with retirement services inside OPM.
	So this has always been their dream, and we're just here to help accelerate it.
	That's a pretty fat stack.
	Was that Kissinger's?
	Oh, no.
	The record is almost, I mean, several shopping carts.
	There's a whole pallet for one retiree with 27 boxes of paper on it.
	For one guy!
	That's the record, yeah.
	I've seen it with my own eyes.
	Yeah, I mean, it certainly...
	And it also frees up people, because we shouldn't have over 1,000 people carrying paper into a mine.
	That is not a good use of people's lives.
	So there are many other things that they could do that would be far more productive than carrying paper into a mine.
	If you were to say, we have iPhones, does the government have payphones?
	How prehistoric is this technology?
	Oh, yes.
	It's very prehistoric.
	It's very prehistoric.
	It's like Flintstones.
	It's Flintstone-level stuff.
	It's so prehistoric.
	Like, dinosaurs would think this is, you know, kind of old.
	That's how prehistoric it is.
	I mean, basically the only thing loving was a sponge.
	That's how prehistoric it was.
	Okay, so we're leaving the Stone Age and we're moving into the Golden Age.
	Pre-Cambrian era is what we're talking about.
	Okay.
	There was a story I heard about mules.
	There were mules delivering mail to the bottom of the Grand Canyon.
	Which might not be a bad thing, actually.
	You have the mule picture.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Picks or it doesn't exist.
	Yeah, yeah, but this is a case where actually it might not...
	I think, do we agree with the mule or should there be mules?
	I think it can be modernized.
	If there's opportunity for improvement.
	Yes, right.
	So yeah, I'm at the Postal Service.
	I think a lot of people don't realize that there's actually a law that says that the post office is supposed to have a balanced budget.
	There is?
	Yeah, there is.
	I didn't know that.
	Well, that's not working, is it?
	No, it's not.
	So they're breaking the law?
	They're breaking the law.
	Basically, since 2007, almost every year since 2007, they've lost money.
	So you might ask, what happened in 2007?
	Yeah, what happened in 2007?
	Yeah, there was additional regulation that went into place that essentially Crippled them and put them down this, like, not good path where they essentially are stuck in the past as well as bleeding money left and right.
	So, like, it's great, and we appreciate that the postal employees are willing to go to the hardest parts, like, in this country, but we think that we can modernize it and help them become profitable.
	Right now, last year they lost $9.5 billion.
	Wow.
	Serious money.
	Wow.
	So, you know, storing truckloads of paperwork for one person in a cave, riding mules to the Grand Canyon with a defunct and bankrupted postal service.
	I mean, it's funny because I think most of us kind of knew this was the case, but to hear it still somehow is shocking.
	Right, Nick?
	Yeah, it's shocking.
	It's just as shocking as Hillary Clinton giving $5 million of that USAID money over to a Haitian government official there.
	$5 million is that exact amount.
	Investigators go look for it.
	It's $5 million exactly.
	How hard is that?
	Doge.
	Go look it up.
	I feel like you're trying to get us back into a story that we covered, but yeah, go on.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm not getting back into that story.
	You know what?
	How about this?
	I think...
	Do you want me to read my love letter?
	Okay.
	I think it's good.
	I think we've covered this Doge thing.
	We've kind of ran that into the ground.
	I can tell Nick's impatience is kicking in, and he's so excited to read you guys' love letter.
	Well, let's put it this way.
	So Nick has an affinity for telling people the truth, which I respect and I think is fun.
	And it's interesting.
	And he's written a letter of sorts.
	I don't know if I would describe it as a love letter.
	A letter of information, right?
	An informing letter.
	Is that a thing?
	Probably.
	Yeah, to inform.
	To inform our corrupt governor of Colorado here, Jared Polis.
	So you wrote this letter to Jared Polis.
	Let's start with, before we read it on air, what inspired you to write this letter?
	Well, you know, I saw the pictures of Tina Peters and her GoFundMe and everything.
	She's still in jail.
	Her health is failing.
	You know, I took it.
	They actually had his email right there to write him a nice love letter if you'd like to.
	So I wrote him a love letter, and I'll read it now if you're ready.
	I mean, I almost want to set the mood with some music, but I won't.
	Yeah, so for anybody who doesn't know, Tina Peters, who was the—what was her position?
	I know she was in the county there in southern Colorado where— They basically did an audit for the election.
	She was the county clerk, I think.
	Am I right in that?
	Yeah, yeah.
	And she basically helped perform an audit of the election from 2020, which involved bringing in outside auditors to look at some anomalous things that were taking place with the voting machines and how numbers were being tallied.
	And it, you know, gained national prominence because people were pointing to that as an example of, you know, when you actually examined the machines and the vote counts, that there were some truly shocking discrepancies and that there were some truly shocking,
	you know, irregularities that never were investigated fully.
	As a matter of fact, they were covered up and ignored.
	By our Secretary of State, who is also a corrupt individual, Jenna Griswold.
	And now, subsequently from there, Tina Peters was brought to trial for violating some, you know, sort of miscellaneous irrelevant law that, you know, about records and keeping them away from,
	you know, the public.
	And she was sentenced to, I believe, nine years in prison on state charges, which means that she's ineligible for a pardon from President Trump, which means the only way that she can have her sentence overturned is through either an appeal or a pardon from the state governor,
	Jared Polis.
	I believe that's what would be the case.
	So she's basically, and she's also a Gold Star mom whose son died in the service.
	And, you know, she's really rotting away in a prison right now.
	And Nick felt inspired enough to write this letter to Governor Polis explaining some interesting things.
	So why don't you read us the letter?
	Governor Polis, first I want to let you know, sir, that if you think Tina's the only person with courage, you've made it.
	A terrible miscalculation.
	A terrible miscalculation, sir.
	Alright, so, here's my letter.
	Hello, Governor Polis.
	It's become abundantly clear that you're corrupt.
	Your Secretary of State is also corrupt.
	Each count of voter fraud that you willingly accepted for your campaign will land you in federal prison.
	We're talking tens of thousands.
	Or more counts that you're facing.
	Griswold is also facing these charges.
	The best thing that you can do is release Tina Peters.
	Let me tell you why.
	You need some good PR.
	I'm going to continue destroying your reputation with the truth.
	I will continue sending any leads for crimes that you commit.
	I have committed, I already got, directly to Kash Patel.
	Right now, there are numerous.
	There are already people talking to investigators about your criminal racketeering enterprise.
	RICO law will be invoked soon if you don't cut a deal.
	Stand by, I've got to get a drink.
	I think that your best course of action is to release Tina Peters and then resign.
	Otherwise, those investigators...
	Investigations will continue.
	Don't forget, with RICO law, you don't need a warrant.
	To collect your communications and intercept them.
	And then I kind of spilled the beans for him just to make him a little more comfortable with the situation.
	They've been doing this for four years, Craig.
	The DOJ went around the FBI by creating their own investigation teams.
	They brought people back from retirement because they didn't trust anybody.
	So kind of the same way the untouchables were chosen.
	And I wrote that in there, too, just to make sure he knew for reference.
	And as of 2021, this was all going to be...
	This was all going on in blue states like they've gone around listening to all the politicians.
	This is what's been happening.
	They've got it all.
	Don't forget that Space Force did not have to comply with Posse Comitatus until 2021.
	They double as an intel agency.
	There is nowhere you can run.
	There's nowhere you'll be able to escape.
	You need to cut a deal and you need to do it now.
	The ones that are helping Trende Aragua, and you know this.
	If you come clean, they may give you 100% immunity as long as you tell them everything.
	And that's my letter.
	Yeah, I think it was signed lovingly, the bag man, Nick Ngo.
	No, but check this out.
	I'm about to tell everybody a big secret that nobody knows.
	Well, hey, that's a great cliffhanger.
	Keep it locked in here if you want to hear the secret that Nick Ngo knows that nobody else does.
	That's where we're going to come back to.
	Stay tuned.
	You're listening to Justice Forum Talk Radio.
	We'll be back after the break.
	We'll be back after the break.
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	I am your host, Craig James, with Nick Ngo.
	Nick, you were dangling the secret in front of everybody.
	What's the secret that everybody is waiting to hear now?
	Before any elections, federal elections are held, the machines are examined by, let's just say, people who are experts at the DOD.
	And when they checked the machines, the machines were created to cheat.
	They have a wireless network key they're not supposed to have.
	They have a Bluetooth connection.
	They have all of these connections and these things that they're not legally allowed to have, right?
	And then on top of that, okay, so this is the whole part about Tina Peters that I'm going to bring home right here.
	All right, so what Tina Peters revealed by imaging, which is an exact copy, Of the machine, so you can navigate through it and move through the software, it'll all be the same as if you had the same exact machine.
	Okay, keep that in mind.
	So this is what happened.
	All right, so when the Cyber Symposium happened, where it was nationally televised by, you know, Mr., gosh, MyPillow guy, I love him.
	Gosh, I can't remember his name right now.
	Mike Lindell.
	Mike Lindell, thank you, Craig.
	Okay.
	You're welcome.
	When they went to go look at that on there, I told them where to look.
	It was me.
	It was me.
	I knew it.
	You know how I knew it?
	Because I know the people that checked the machines to know you faked it.
	You knew you were going to rig the elections, okay?
	So let me tell you where the evidence was that they showed in the cyber symposium.
	It was in the error logs.
	The error logs showed all the times that they were cheating.
	There should be a threshold of how many errors there are, and it's far less.
	than what you'd expect.
	It's a very small margin.
	Very, very small.
	And so you're supposed to keep these error logs and maintain them for 22 months.
	And so what Tina Peters did is copy that log, okay?
	Copy the entire machine, proving the fraud.
	Proving that they erased.
	They came in and erased the error logs that were by federal law required to remain for 22 months.
	They did it anyway.
	That's a federal crime.
	And none of those people went to jail.
	But you know what, buddy?
	They know.
	Because I know.
	I'm a nobody.
	I'm just a guy on the radio.
	And I know about it.
	Think about what's in store for you, buddy.
	Think about what's in store for you, Griswold.
	Start talking.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	They took our jobs.
	They stole our lives.
	We got him now!
	I like your sentiment, Nick.
	And I, being facetious, joking slightly, just because I like to bring a little levity into the conversation, it is kind of a serious thing.
	And it's a little more of a laid-back, less serious show today I was trying to shoot for.
	Sorry, I went a little overboard there.
	But I'll just tell the truth, you know.
	I'm sure you're on, like, coffee number eight, so we're probably getting a milder version than after a whole pot or two.
	It's actually number five.
	Yeah.
	Well, you know, it's up there.
	The caffeine's starting to flow, and we are going 100%.
	But, yeah, I agree.
	Look, I know the people you know to a degree.
	At least I know of.
	I know a lot of them, but I also know of a lot of them.
	And I wish people would understand that, you know, sometimes it sounds like Nick is saying things that are like very out there, you know, maybe delusional, but it's not.
	And I know it because, again, I just know it.
	I've seen a lot of it.
	I know, Nick, it must be a lot of stress for you just knowing a lot of this crap, right?
	Yeah, and I couldn't take it anymore after seeing Tina being locked up still today, Craig.
	I just couldn't take it.
	So listen, Miss Griswold, Mr. Polis, you guys have a choice to make.
	Do it now.
	One of the two of you is going to rat on each other.
	Which one is it going to be?
	I mean, seriously, whoever does it first is going to get immunity.
	Better hurry.
	Yeah, and, you know, I think they'd be well served to know that people in the military tend not to exaggerate things.
	Usually people who have military background tend to understate things.
	They talk softly and carry a big stick.
	That's not a threat, obviously.
	It's just a matter of observation.
	If I were in their shoes, I would be telling.
	You know, the FBI, everything that happened and helping, you know, throwing myself at the mercy of the court.
	But again...
	Oh my gosh.
	You're dealing with criminals.
	I would go to the military bases, Craig.
	I would say, look, seriously, Griswold and Polis or whoever you are, whoever you are criminal.
	Listen, you need to go to a military base to confess about this because if you go to the FBI and you end up in one of their jails, they might shank you.
	I mean, look at that USAID one.
	It's a weapons people.
	They're selling shanks now.
	Calm down, Nick.
	The safest place for him to go would be the...
	No, the safest place for him to go would be the military, seriously.
	He's saying that obviously there's always a danger in any jail, and when people go to jail, there's a possibility that other inmates are, you know, violent criminals, perhaps Trendy Aragua, you know, cartel members who get an order from,
	you know...
	Like Hillary Clinton and, you know, or to that effect, someone in that realm of influence, and then next thing you know, you're Seth Rich.
	And nobody wants that.
	And we're not even saying that that's what would happen.
	They need to go to the military bases to be safe.
	We're just saying that that's like...
	These are all hypotheticals and there is no...
	I disavow anybody who makes open threats or says negative things in that regard.
	I disavow that.
	I make no association with that sort of thing.
	I just say, the truth shall set you free.
	That's all I'll say on this matter.
	And perhaps people will be well served to consider that as, you know, the most logical option for their future.
	Okay, we got a few callers, it looks like.
	Let's go over to our friend Kevin.
	Kevin, what's up?
	Kevin.
	I've got the bags ready, Nick.
	Well, they're not going to put bags over their head, Kevin, if they voluntarily walk onto the basement.
	We're not even insinuating that that's a thing.
	We're just saying people should tell the truth.
	About what they've done.
	I swear.
	Well, I'm trying to keep this show going.
	That's what I'm trying to do without, you know, the FBI kicking in my door.
	Right.
	I've got a secret that you guys didn't know.
	Let's hear it.
	Bill Clinton is a Batman.
	He puts back on Hillary's head every night.
	Oh, hell no, no, no, no, no.
	All right.
	Kevin, let's keep it like at least PG-13.
	Anything else, brother?
	No, you guys haven't.
	It's been a great show.
	This has been most awesome.
	That Doge interview and everything, and we've had a little fun.
	It's great.
	God bless you guys.
	You guys, please, be careful.
	Yeah, we always are.
	Thanks for the heads up.
	All right.
	God bless, brother.
	God bless you, brother.
	God bless.
	All right, so we're taking a break here.
	We got somebody on the phone.
	If they want to hold on, we'll bring them on after we come back from the break, and we'll just keep going.
	But, Nick, I got to be honest, you know, my opinion is just that it would serve all of these people who have engaged in these crimes well to tell the truth, you know.
	And who have participated or been accomplices or even if they were ignorant and then found out after the fact, you can be accomplice after the fact, believe it or not.
	Excessories after the fact.
	Yeah, that is a real thing.
	And perhaps they think if enough time passes, you know, statute of limitations, etc., maybe that's their game plan, maybe that's their play.
	Who knows?
	I mean, the truth shall set you free.
	So we're coming back.
	Stay tuned.
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	You can run on for a long time.
	Run on for a long time.
	Run on for a long time.
	Soon or later, gotta cut you down.
	Soon or later, gotta cut you down.
	Go tell that long.
	Welcome back to This Forum Talk Radio.
	I'm your host, Craig James with Nick Ngo.
	Nick, we have a caller.
	Should we pick him up?
	Pick him up!
	All right, caller, you're on the air.
	What do you got?
	Okay.
	I listen to you every day, and I really like your show, and especially like yesterday, Catherine Austin did that thing you did about the Solari Report and underground bases.
	Thank you.
	My question is, you have such a treasure there with Nick.
	Maybe I'm wrong, but once in a while, when he starts really getting going, I feel like you kind of put him on a leash or make fun of him or try to make light of it.
	Is that because you just don't want people, I don't know, Do you want to keep the show lighter?
	Because it's so serious right now.
	I think we really need to hear what he has to say.
	Oh, no, listen, let me explain.
	Nick, why don't you take this one?
	Craig and I have a symbiotic relationship.
	See, I'm the guy with the hammer, and everything looks like a nail for me.
	And sometimes I get a little carried away, and he keeps me from getting that far.
	Because, you know, as a soldier, you look at a problem, and it's like, oh, I keep seeing this problem.
	Why don't you just eliminate the problem, you know?
	And then, you know, via whatever means, you know, like the military uses.
	But, you know, like, so for me, the way I look at the world is a completely different lens.
	Like, it's easy to take care of the problem when you know where it's at.
	And once you identify the problem, then just take care of the problem.
	I mean, like, arrest them or whatever.
	But for some reason, nothing happens, and I go crazy about it.
	And Craig's like, listen, it's a process.
	Calm down.
	Yeah.
	I could have been wrong.
	I love listening to you, and it's like you're a treasure trove of information.
	I don't have any, like, I get what you're saying, and I get this sort of critique often.
	I mean, not often, but from time to time.
	And I think it is, like Nick said, it's like we have this relationship where we're kind of like brothers, basically.
	And I know kind of what we are, basically, brothers.
	And it's like I know what he's – I'm trying to help him because, like he said, he is kind of of a – he's of a soldier's mindset because he is a soldier.
	And there are certain ways to handle stuff in the civilian world that – You have to have a little bit of...
	You have to be careful.
	And you have to be sort of...
	You approach things differently, and he knows that.
	But like he said, he can at times get carried away.
	And I'm kind of trying to be a bit of a tether to, you know, this is where we got to go with it.
	But I agree.
	I mean, I like...
	Listen, the reason I have Nick on the show...
	And the reason I've, you know, let him become sort of this central part of the show as a co-host is because he is so valuable in his understanding of the world.
	And I think his perspective is just very valuable.
	But I think ultimately at the end of the day, he would agree that what you're getting on air is like 5% of Nick No.
	Like, let's be honest.
	And I'm being generous with that.
	I mean, so...
	I don't want Nick to do anything that will get him in trouble while simultaneously I want him to be able to have this place to come and get this information out because it's so important.
	And so I'm just trying to help in that regard.
	So if it sounds like I'm cutting him off or if I'm kind of...
	It's because I'm trying to just de-escalate it.
	I mean, Nick, you tell them.
	I don't know.
	Am I making this up or am I being fairly accurate?
	No, no.
	I've got to be honest, too.
	I don't mind talking about this on the radio.
	Don't get into any of that, Nick.
	Don't get into any of that.
	Listen, this is what I have to do.
	I mean, you see what I have to kind of do here.
	Nick was about to tell you about stuff.
	Nobody needs to...
	Talk about that stuff here.
	You're right.
	Thanks, thanks.
	But we need to talk about this.
	You're a very important person for information.
	Does that answer your question?
	I'm sorry.
	I keep going all day.
	Oh, it does.
	I just was hoping that you weren't, like, you know what they did to Alex Jones was so bad, and I was just hoping that there's not, like, a chill of free speech.
	You know, where people are like really watching because they don't want the Alex Jones treatment.
	No, they're never going to do that to me, honey.
	I'm going to tell you why.
	Because I have the evidence on hand.
	Yeah, I can't.
	I don't tell Nick what to say.
	I just tell him, you know, hey, we got to do this.
	We got to do it this way because it's like radio and there's rules and all that.
	You know, it's like that's what we're trying to stay in the framework of.
	And Chris, I love your show, so I'm going to keep listening every morning as much as I can.
	I'm an older lady.
	I'm in my 70s.
	Oh, cool.
	I'm glad you're listening.
	You have a really nice morning.
	Yes.
	Thank you.
	I just love Nick and your perspective, and it really just, I don't know, it gets my blood going in a good way.
	That's good.
	I'm happy.
	That's what we're here to do, and it's a pleasure to have you listening.
	I do, but the feedback's been good for me because I've been trying over time to let Nick talk, and we have conversations where, like, we have a lot of conversations off-air, believe it or not, and, you know...
	You're going to keep getting more of Nick.
	Don't worry about that.
	We're not throttling Nick.
	We're just doing it in a slower sort of release.
	It's like those time-release capsules.
	We don't want it all to hit you.
	If you've got a full dose of Nick, that might be too much for you to handle.
	I don't know.
	It might put a few people in the hospital.
	Let's keep watching.
	Jesus is on his way.
	Amen.
	Thank you.
	God bless.
	Okay.
	Bye-bye.
	Well, Nick, I thought that was very complimentary for you.
	Oh, yes.
	Now, she said something I want to point out.
	She said, I hope that you don't get Alex Jones.
	Listen, honey, this isn't going to happen to me.
	I have all the evidence on the deep state.
	I carry it with me everywhere I go.
	So if they ever try and arrest me for whatever thing they make up, then guess what?
	That evidence on the thumb drives of things I have go right into an evidence right there.
	Yeah, it's all dead man switched.
	So the moment that they try and become aggressive with me, it's over for them.
	It'll just go faster.
	It'll accelerate and snowball.
	So there you go.
	There you go, folks.
	Now you know the secret of Nick.
	What we give you is timed release, Nick.
	We don't give you the full strength, Nick, because that would be a lot.
	I know.
	I've seen it.
	You know, it's a lot.
	This is getting weird.
	I don't want to keep talking about this this way.
	Anyway, the point is we're going to come back.
	With our final segment, we'll give you guys some hope through the scripture.
	If anybody wants to call and give us compliments and ask questions like that, that's wonderful.
	We love those kind of calls, right Nick?
	Alright, we're going to take a break.
	We're coming back.
	Stay tuned.
	Peace. Oh, great.
	I'm out.
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	That's who you are.
	You brought me blessings out of a tragedy.
	You turned my old song into a symphony.
	And with your spirit living inside of me.
	I'm a new creation.
	I'm a new creation.
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	It rose until I stumbled and made my mistakes.
	Then I could know in my soul how amazing was grace.
	Welcome back to Just Forum Talk Radio.
	It's our final segment.
	And I want to add something, Nick, as a compliment to you.
	In case I didn't make it all clear enough, I think one of the things, I don't want it to come off as Nick's reckless.
	I want it to come off as Nick is one of the most passionate people I've ever met in my life.
	For a monotone person whose mood usually stays pretty even.
	Too high or too low.
	He is so passionate and truly believes in what he's doing.
	And it's a rare commodity in this world.
	So I'm thankful to have you as a co-host.
	And I'm always going to do my best to help you get this message out because you are passionate and you do believe what you're saying.
	There's people you meet in life who talk the talk and then there are people who walk the walk.
	Nick walks the walk and I'm thankful to have you on the show, my friend.
	Thank you, Greg.
	That's the nicest thing anybody's ever said about me, buddy.
	I love you.
	I love you too, bro.
	Here, final word.
	Give it to the audience.
	All right, all seriousness.
	Now we're all calmed down a little bit.
	Griswold, remember, military base.
	Don't go to regular jail.
	Same for that other guy that's the governor that no one likes and he's weird.
	Polis.
	You too.
	Polis, go ahead and trust me.
	Go to a base.
	Don't go anywhere else.
	Don't forget, everybody, there's a lot going on.
	We're all waiting for these arrests to come.
	Be patient.
	It's going to come, and it's going to come quickly, like a fire hose.
	All of a sudden, it's going to drip, drip, drip, then fire hose.
	So help your family.
	Take care of your family.
	Take care of your friends.
	Make sure everybody's good.
	Make sure you wake up and then say a prayer, because right now, America's going through it.
	We all have to get right with God before the next stage of what's going to happen.
	And don't forget, in the end, God wins.
	Amen.
	I think we all need to get right with God every day.
	And it never ends.
	We've got to go to God for all things.
	And today, we do that.
	As we leave you guys with some hope and encouragement for the weekend.
	I want to just go over to Titus chapter 2, verse 11 through 15. And I want to just leave these words with you guys to take with you.
	It says, for the grace of God has appeared with salvation for all people, instructing us to deny godlessness and worldly lusts and to live in a sensible, righteous, and godly way in the present age.
	While we wait for the blessed hope and appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ.
	He gave himself to us, or for us, to redeem us from all lawlessness and to cleanse us for himself and people for his own possession, eager to do good work.
	Say these things and encourage and rebuke with all authority.
	Let no one disregard you.
	And that's my word for you.
	Take it with you.
	And if you haven't accepted Jesus as your Lord and Savior, open your heart, say a prayer, call upon His name.
	And watch him enter your life and change it in ways that maybe you can't imagine.
	But we're going to leave it there.
	I want to say thanks to Nick.
	Thanks to callers.
	Thanks to texters.
	Thanks to everybody listening.
	We'll be back on Monday.
	Same time, same place.
	God willing.
	Until then, you're listening to Just Form Talk Radio.
	I'm your host, Craig James, with Nick Ngo.
	Have a great weekend.
	We'll see you on Monday.
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