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We have a lot to cover.
We're going to get into it right now.
The stories are as follows.
I mean, we have so much to cover over the last few days.
It's sort of overwhelming, but we'll just pick places to start and go from there.
Last night, Trump gave a big fake news interview on the first 100 days.
This was all on ABC, you know.
Always Broadcasting Crap Network.
That is my name for them.
But anyway, they put on this show for us where, of course, you know, it's like Groundhog Day.
That's what I'm starting to feel like with this media and how they operate.
You know, particularly with Trump, but overall with everything.
They always tell the story the same way.
They always present the narrative with the same bias.
They always have an affinity for lying and deceiving.
They use fact checks from organizations like Snopes.
And then they take things out of context and reference things that are moot or irrelevant.
And they use it all to deceive their viewers.
And I know we've talked about this so many times here, but...
And it probably feels like Groundhog Day for you too, just hearing it.
I don't know who watches this stuff anymore, to be honest with you.
To be quite frank, I can barely get through five minutes of this kind of stuff because it becomes so exhausting.
You know, it's so tedious to watch these...
Babbling morons.
Lie and lie and lie and lie by obfuscation and lie by taking things out of context and, you know, deceive people and manipulate.
It's like...
I don't know, man.
The fact that millions and millions of people still watch this stuff...
We...
I mean, I don't know how much fluoride's in the water, but they need to start getting it out quicker.
I don't know what these food dyes are doing to people's brains or the preservatives and chemicals or the garbage that's in the water and the food and the drugs.
But whatever it is, man, people's brains are just completely fried because they watch this stuff and consume it and they believe it.
Still.
And this is why they don't change, right?
If enough people woke up and saw how clearly false the narratives are, if enough people woke up and saw how obvious the lies were, then perhaps these organizations would at least have to change somewhat.
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But you've got to think about it from the perspective of, I guess, don't fix it if it ain't broke, is their motto, right?
They're still getting away with it.
They're still making millions of dollars.
They're probably losing money, but they're still making enough money to stay afloat, and they're being floated by these globalist entities that want to keep people functionally retarded.
And I use that term, you know...
I don't use that term often, but there are little other, there are a few other ways to describe the state of people in their, you know, ignorant naivety, whatever it is, right?
And I'm not saying that, I mean, functionally retarded, they don't stand a chance.
They don't have anything, they don't have any clue what's going on.
The greatest example.
From this interview was an exchange about the tattoos on this guy who got deported and everybody, you know, lost their minds over and it became like George Floyd of illegal immigrants.
They started doing this semantic game, right?
So the reporter's like, well, Trump's like, you know, the guy we deported, he was an MS-13 gang member, so we deported him.
Plain and simple.
And then the ABC fake news guy's like, well, you know, that's not proven.
He goes, dude, he had MS-13 tattooed on his knuckles.
It's in the pictures.
We see them online.
And then he's like, well, no, sir, that's a Photoshop picture.
And I'm like, wait, what's he talking about?
What Photoshop are they talking about?
So here's what they're talking about.
Okay?
They're talking about a photo that was taken of a guy, right?
Who's got his arm around his girlfriend.
She later, like, changed the photo to block it out.
But it's his foreknuckles, right?
And on his foreknuckles, there are four tattoos.
And each of the tattoos has a symbol with an associated meaning.
Each one represents a letter, right?
Letter, which is very common.
If you watch any show about prison, documentary or fictional television, or you've had any experience, some people may have actually been in prison and know about this stuff, you would know that,
you know, if I'm in MS-13, some people do it.
Right?
Like, some, the neo-Nazis, they'll paint the giant swastika on their chest.
And some of the MS-13 guys will have it in big, bold letters, you know, MS-13.
But, my understanding of this photo, as I've seen it, is that, as with many other people out there, In order to conceal the true nature of the tattoo while also showing their allegiance and affinity toward the gang they are in,
they will have symbols in place of letters or numbers, which will be a representation of their, you know, association with the gang.
Any cop out there who's worked on a gang beat, this is like, they know this stuff.
They train the cops to recognize these tattoos as being associated.
Associated with gang activity.
My gosh, watch an episode of Cops for five minutes, for crying out loud.
Okay?
This isn't like rocket science.
So, what's happening here is in order to keep a narrative alive that is easily debunked, the fake news reporter says that's a photoshopped picture.
Now, what's he referring to?
He's not suggesting that the...
MS-13 on the knuckles is photoshopped in the sense that there's no tattoo that represents it because he even says, well, you know, there's symbols that we don't know what the meaning of are.
It's like, yeah, we all know what the meaning is.
The guy's girlfriend said in court documents or whatever it was, filed an affidavit against him saying he's in a gang.
I wonder what gang it is, the one that's MS-13, right?
So...
What he's referring to, though, is like a Snopes and PolitiFact, you know, fact check article that takes a picture where it shows the knuckles with the tattoos on the knuckles and then...
Overlaid, there is a sort of a graphic that has, you know, digital text overlaid where it has, you know, it has a letter and then a little arrow pointing at each tattoo and explaining what each tattoo represents,
right?
So one tattoo represents the M, the other represents the S, the other represents the one, and the other represents the three.
MS-13.
But this guy plays a semantical argument to keep this fake narrative going that this guy's just an innocent Maryland husband-father who's been deported.
It's sickening.
Stay tuned.
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I'm your host, Craig James.
Look, I'm just as sick of this stuff as you are, but somebody's got to call it out.
I mean, and it's frustrating, but I think that's the whole point, right?
They're trying to win the war of attrition, wear us down, get us exhausted and on our heels always trying to combat their fake news narratives.
And, you know, in a way, it works, but also it's, you know, quite...
Telling how they do it.
So we're talking about this ABC News interview, the first 100 days, with some random fake news reporter from ABC News who's gonna, you know, frame the narrative.
And I don't even know what the incentive is for these people.
Like, are they...
It's half...
I don't know.
It's probably half and half.
Probably some other part is a mixed-in part.
But, you know, it's either, like, these people are ideologically just...
Outside their mind, they're lunatics who hate America and ideologically want, you know, gay people grooming children and they have sick proclivities and other, you know, other bad problems.
Or it's just a money thing.
They don't care.
They're, you know, sociopaths to a degree.
At least complete disconnected narcissistic lunatics who could care less about decency and what's right.
If you give them enough money, they'll say anything.
They'll bark like a dog if the teleprompter says to.
So that's the kind of people I think we're dealing with here.
Or, I mean, there's the other little small sliver, I think, are people who are just disconnected from reality to an extent, who live in the bubble.
You know, they're raised in the bubble.
They live in the bubble.
They don't know anything but the bubble.
So, the bubble makes sense.
The bubble's safe.
The bubble is good.
Warm and friendly and it will keep you safe and well and stay in the tribe and you will never be ostracized.
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And, you know, so that's the categories, I guess.
Maybe third, third, third.
I don't know how I would break it down.
But whatever it is, you know, hopefully it'll break down soon.
My concern, though, is that, you know, 100 years from now, it's going to be the same thing.
If, you know, we're all still here, if the rapture hasn't come, or if we haven't had the planet, you know, destroyed by some cataclysmic event, that it'll just be the same thing.
And they'll perfect it with AI to a degree where it will be invisible and imperceivable.
And they'll just find ways to keep people asleep still.
I mean, that's why they anesthetize the population, right?
Alcohol and, you know, barbiturates and, you know, all these drugs that are legalized that they let you, you know, destroy your body with, destroy your mind with.
The drugs, I'm not just talking about the drugs, like, you know.
The hard drugs.
I'm talking about the thousands of drugs they put in the food, you know, that soften us and weaken us and keep our minds malleable and make us sort of,
you know, dull.
Oh, work and no play makes Jack a dull boy, as they say, you know.
To quote the famous movie, The Shining.
I think partially it was filmed.
Wasn't it up in Estes Park where they filmed some of that?
Maybe I'm wrong.
Anyway, I think it's interesting, you know.
But let's play the clip.
I'll play the clip.
You guys tell me what you think.
Maybe I'm reading too much into this.
Maybe I'm jaded.
I don't know.
Let's listen.
But the court has ordered you to facilitate that.
I'm not the one making this decision.
We have lawyers that don't want to do this.
But the bunk stops in his office.
No, no, no, no.
I follow the law.
You want me to follow the law?
If I were the president that just wanted to do anything, I'd probably keep him right where he is.
The Supreme Court says what the law is.
Listen, I was elected to take care of a problem.
It was an unforced error.
Alright, I want to point something out in the first part of this interview.
Did you notice what the fake news journalist there said?
He said the Supreme Court decides what the law is.
To a degree, yes.
But there's a reason why we have a separation of powers.
There's a reason why we have three co-equal branches.
There's a reason why President Trump is the commander-in-chief of the...
Armed Forces, and he is the executive leader of this country.
It's because he equally shares power with the Supreme Court.
He is not subservient to the Supreme Court.
They are meant to balance one another.
The legislative branch balances the executive, balances the judicial.
Look, this is how you know these people are dishonest.
And liars, which, I mean, it's like, how could you not know by now, Craig?
I know.
Like I said, Groundhog Day, welcome back.
So, it's that if the Supreme Court makes a decision, or Congress, or the executive, that they agree with, then that person or party that they agree with is the arbiter of truth and authority.
Now, And you saw this with Joe Biden.
You saw this with when the Democrats were running Congress.
You see it when the Supreme Court makes a decision that favors a liberal agenda or cause.
But inversely, I could pull up 1,000 or 10,000 or 50,000 clips of when the Supreme Court or the legislative bodies or the executive makes a decision That they disagree with where,
guess what?
Guess what they call for?
This is an insurrection.
This is a constitutional crisis.
The country's coming to an end.
The rule of law is broken.
The Supreme Court is not the arbiter of truth.
They don't tell us what the law of the land is.
They don't dictate laws to us.
So that's how you know you're dealing, A, with a bad faith actor in the media.
And, I don't know, I mean, I feel like part of it is like they intentionally want us to waste our time in the semantic argument that we're having right now.
Just in constantly the barrage of lies that we have to parse through while they get away with murder.
But at the same time, how can you not call this out?
Because it's so plainly obvious what they're doing and how they're doing it.
So that's one example.
I'm doing this, like, fake news play-by-play breakdown.
Imagine this is, like, Monday Night Football, and I'm the, you know, the analyst on ESPN the day after, you know, pointing out the plays and being like, well, you know, he should have juked when he, you know, spun instead of,
you know, diving over here.
And, you know...
That's kind of what this is.
Like, we're doing a play-by-play breakdown of the news.
So, that's the first thing.
That's how you know this is not in good faith.
And that's why what they do is so harmful overall.
Now, they may have been huffing their own jankum, as I like to say, to the point where they believe a lot of this garbage that they spew.
But the fact of the matter is, it is so...
The harm that they are doing is almost irreparable.
And I don't know if they know that.
I don't know if they care.
I don't know if they even have that level of self-awareness.
But it's true.
It's truly devastating.
Anyway, let's just continue.
We'll listen to more of the fake news ABC journalist's interview of Trump.
That was made by a very incompetent man.
A man that turned out to be incompetent that you always said was wonderful.
Great genius, right?
And now you find out all of the media now, they're saying what a mistake they made.
A man who was grossly incompetent allowed us to have open borders where millions of people float in.
I'll add something to what Trump said there.
To add to what I pointed out yesterday.
Not only are the media...
Just now figuring out Joe Biden's demented senile, right?
And just now coming to terms with it, although they knew all along and willingly I could almost prove lied about it.
They're giving each other awards for making that realization.
I pointed out last night Chris Thompson of Axios News receiving an award at the White House Correspondents' Dinner from Kristen Welker, another fake news NBC.
Liar.
A $2,500 award at the White House Correspondents' Dinner for making the revelatory breakthrough story in, after the 2024 presidential debate,
Or excuse me.
Yeah, after not the 2024, after the presidential debates that Joe Biden might not all be there.
Really?
No, it was 2024.
It was the first debate with Biden.
Excuse me.
So, and again, somebody pointed out, I thought it was hilarious.
Somebody texted yesterday and was like, yeah, they only did that after Obama gave George Clooney the go-ahead to write an op-ed saying that Joe Biden couldn't handle it and that he needed to be replaced.
But they gave the $2,500 award to Chris Thompson of Axios because George Clooney wasn't able to attend.
I told you, it's like the Oscars.
These people, it's all a stage, it's all fake, it's all fugazi, it's all lies, it's deception, it's just, it's insidious.
Sinister.
Dare I say evil?
Well, whatever it is, I know this, that the fact that they're like having To, you know, make that real.
And Trump, again, this is like the Leslie Stahl interview.
I mean, Trump's been saying this stuff for so long.
And the fake news, oh no, this isn't proven.
Let's just keep going.
I campaigned on that issue.
I wouldn't say it was my number one issue, but it was pretty close.
I campaigned on that issue.
I've done an amazing job.
I have closed borders.
He said you couldn't do it.
You wouldn't be able to do it.
It would never happen.
Well, it happened.
And it happened very quickly.
Wait a minute.
When we have criminals, murderers, criminals in this country, we have to get them out, and we're doing it.
And you'll pick out one man.
But even the man that you picked out, he said he wasn't a member of a gang.
And then they looked, and on his knuckles...
He had MS-13.
There's a dispute.
Wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
He had MS-13 on his knuckles.
He had some tattoos that are interpreted that way, but let's move on.
Let's move on.
Let's move on.
He had some tattoos that are interpreted that way.
Move on.
Moving on.
Moving on.
Disruption of narrative.
Oh, we can't allow people to know the truth.
I can't blatantly, flagrantly lie, but I can lie through obfuscation.
And if I can get away from this question as quickly as possible, then it will provide me the ability to have, you know, to play dumb later when I keep saying the same lie over and over again on fake news.
You see how that all works?
Not to mention the fact that everything that you just saw in that short exchange is, like, the perfect embodiment of how the fake news operates.
And there's more, folks.
But wait, there's more!
Really?
I can get two Shamwows?
Wow!
This is great!
Really?
I can get...
In a two-minute and 30-second clip, I can get a dozen lies?
Man, but wait!
There's even more!
Stay tuned.
We're going to talk about it.
I think it's worth doing for no other reason because it's cathartic, as they say, right?
To just point out these people and how slimy and sinister they are.
But it also serves a purpose.
We've got to parse through the lies.
You know, it just shows you how it all operates.
Pulling the veil back further and showing what is actually happening.
Stay tuned.
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Welcome back to Just Informed Talk Radio.
I'm your host, Craig James.
Somebody texted in something I have to share because it's so good.
Someone from the 720 texted in and said, Owen Schroer asked the question, obviously Owen Schroer being a host over at Infowars, when will America get completely fed up with the state of affairs of the country?
He then answered, when the media tells them to.
We have made huge strides to discredit these liars, but they still have power over the masses.
And I think that's so true.
It's abundantly clear and obvious, but beyond that, that's what is going to come next, right?
It's a stimuli-response sort of relationship.
You input the stimulus to extract the response you want.
So when they want the media to be discredited, the media will be discredited.
When they don't want it, They won't.
The media, although it is doing a great job at discrediting itself, relies on the fact that people are just completely asleep still.
And in that regard, they are succeeding.
But it is one of those things where, you know, as I'm going through this interview, right, and this short clip from the interview, and pointing out...
Both the deceptive tactics and the logical fallacies are implored by these fake news journalists.
It's worth noting that that observation is probably one of the most accurate And precise ways of understanding how the relationship between the media and the public works,
right?
Generally speaking.
And I'm talking about the fake news media, which can be a consortium of different outlets who work in tandem promoting ideas that create and promote a narrative that is constructed carefully.
And takes, you know, years to get in positions where you have people doing this that are very, I use the word sinister so many times, but they are sinister, evil, deceptive, manipulative.
How many ways can I describe thee, right?
But, you know, you look at these people, too, who they get to do it.
I mean, it will eventually be Idiocracy.
Not that we're not close to there already, but it will eventually be Idiocracy.
You know, where there's a scene in Idiocracy that one of the...
It's like kind of a throwaway scene that not many people look at often.
But there's a throwaway scene in Idiocracy that I think is so accurate as to where this is all heading.
And it's the news scene.
Where it cuts to a news broadcast where they're talking about the main character who's the smartest guy in the world and so on and so forth.
If you haven't seen the movie, it's kind of moot to this point.
But the broadcasters, the anchors on the news desk is a giant muscle-bound guy who looks like he just got out of Mr. Olympia with no shirt on.
And he's, you know, got the bronze all over, and then there's like this, you know, big, bosomed woman sitting next to him in a, you know, skimpy little bikini outfit.
And they're just, tonight in the news, and you could tell they're just brainlessly reading a teleprompter.
That's where this will evolve to, is what I'm saying.
And I'm not saying that if you have muscles, you're dumb.
Or if you are endowed by the Lord in your bosom that way, that you're dumb.
But that's the implication, that's the insinuation, I would say, from the way that they report news and the way people are at that point 500 years into the future, right?
So, that's who we're dealing with today.
Now, they may not be overtly...
In that way.
But it's an easy way to extrapolate from where we are today to where we will be in the trajectory on which we are headed, if you look at the trajectory on which we are headed.
So this guy, you know, who's asking the questions of Trump, and look, Trump's...
He's a smart enough guy, kind of street smart, kind of business savvy, definitely got his political, you know, legs under him to the degree that, you know, you need in politics at this point with, you know, the years and years of experience he's already gained now.
So he's clever.
He's not, I mean, he's not the smartest man in the world.
He doesn't have a 300 IQ or whatever.
I think the smartest guy in the world has got like a 200 and something IQ.
But he's clever enough to understand how the game works.
And still, the reporter, even knowing that Trump knows the game, they know and have learned that if they just continue to deny, deny, deny reality as it exists around them and truth,
As it exists in objective reality, then they can continue to deceive people because people are not using their brains at full capacity.
Whether because of the inundation and the anesthetization or whatever, the drugging, the poisoning.
Fluoride in the water, dyes in the food.
Go down the list.
The low-quality diet most people consume.
You go down the list.
But they know that these people are gullible.
They think of them as rubes.
And that's how they think of you and I. You know, simpleton country folk who don't know their, you know, their head from their backside.
side.
Because, again, they live in the bubble.
They don't come talk to us.
They don't know us.
They don't speak to us.
They don't understand that we are very highly educated.
And not necessarily at, like, Ivy League school highly educated, but highly educated in common sense and life and reality because we live in it.
We don't live in some fanciful bubble in some liberal city where You have to step over the, you know, overdosing fentanyl addicts and piles of human feces in the street to get to your plush,
you know, executive level job.
Thank you.
And it makes it so you willfully ignore it because, hey, my life's pretty good.
Who cares about that guy dying on the street, ODing?
I've seen, you know...
I've been in major cities, and I know some of these cities and how they are.
Can you imagine?
You live in one of those cities.
Go down to Denver.
I just saw a report this morning.
Denver homelessness much worse than even known.
And that's them having to admit how bad it is.
Oh, really?
You're just figuring that out.
Because ever since I've lived here, Just go drive around Denver for five minutes.
People living in tents on the sidewalk.
Homeless people running around with needles, shooting up.
Crime everywhere.
Drug open air, drug use everywhere.
Homelessness is worse than we even thought.
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I'm your host, Craig James.
You know, we've got to finish this clip before we get too deep into it.
I'm going to finish the rest of this clip.
Let's listen.
Wait a minute.
Hey, Terry, Terry.
Terry.
He did not have the letter MS-13.
It says MS-13.
That was Photoshopped.
That was Photoshopped.
Terry, you can't do that.
Hey, they're giving you the big break of a lifetime.
You know, you're doing the interview.
I picked you because, frankly, I never heard of you, but that's okay.
I picked you, Terry.
But you're not being very nice.
He had MS-13 tattooed.
We'll agree to disagree.
I want to move on to something else.
Terry.
Do you want me to show you the picture?
I saw the picture.
Here we go.
Here we go.
Don't Photoshop it.
Go look at his hand.
He did have tattoos that can be interpreted that way.
I'm not an expert on them.
I want to turn to Ukraine.
He had MS, as clear as you can be, not interpreted.
This is why people no longer believe the news, because it's fake news.
When he was photographed in El Salvador, they aren't there.
But let's just go.
They aren't there when he's in El Salvador.
Oh, they weren't there, but they're there now, right?
No.
They're in your picture.
Terry.
Ukraine, sir.
He's got MS-13 on his knuckles.
All right.
Okay?
We'll take a look at that.
It's such a disservice.
We'll take a look at that, sir.
Why don't you just say it?
Yes, he does.
I mean, it's a good point.
Why don't you just say this?
Because the point Trump's making is, I think, a valuable point, right?
He's not going to back down and let them get away with this, right?
Because, and to be quite honest, they don't care.
They'll, you know, reframe the narrative as soon as the interview's over and they'll...
We're just gonna break in here real quick to this interview to give you context.
President Trump is in fact incorrect.
The man in question did not have MS-13 on his knuckles.
This is a public service announcement from ABC News so that you can stay informed.
Now back to the interview.
It's like, that's what they're gonna do!
Maybe you guys let me know.
I could be in the fake news.
I would be a great fake.
I have the voice for it, at least.
Maybe not the face.
My mom always said I had a face for radio, but that's a joke.
A little self-deprecating joke never hurt from time to time.
But the funny thing is that...
You see what they're doing there.
Like, he tacitly admits he had tattoos that could be interpreted as MS-13.
And Trump's saying, no.
No, no, no, no.
The tattoos are MS-13 gang tattoos.
It's not could be interpreted as.
It's not perhaps, maybe.
It is, no.
They are MS-13 tags that every...
The person who works in law enforcement and every person who has any understanding of the real world, again, we talk about the difference between the reality versus the narrative, knows and understands.
He's saying, why don't you just admit it?
Why try to portray this man as not a gang member?
Why are you helping people who are fighting to fill our country with gang members?
What the hell is wrong with these people?
You have to be sick and evil to say, you know what?
I would love to bring a satanic documented gang member here into this country.
To live in our communities and be amongst us.
Who not only is a part of a satanic cartel gang, one of the most vicious and vile in the world, but also is not even a U.S. citizen.
It's like, there it should be.
You know, period, end of story.
Not a U.S. citizen, shouldn't be in the country.
Boom, boom, boom, gone.
No questions asked.
No judges needed.
No, you know, long-delayed trials and hearings.
No Trump in arguing with the media.
It should be, are you a citizen?
No.
Bye-bye.
Get the hell out.
We don't need you.
Go if you want to come in.
Legally, there's a way for you to come in this country.
We would love for you to come legally, but go through the right process.
Don't run across our border.
Invade our country.
Bring your satanic cartel gang violence here.
Abuse your wife.
Beat up your spouse.
Become a vile criminal who hurts the community at large, peaceful citizens, and then expect to be treated in such a way.
It's mind-blowing.
But I guess, in a way, you know how they get away with this stuff is by the audacity.
You ever seen, like, or had an experience on a personal level or seen a movie or something where, you know, something happens that's so shocking in the moment that everybody freezes, right?
You know, like, there's a scene in a movie where, you know, a guy pulls out a gun and just shoots somebody, and everybody just freezes.
Everybody just looks at each other with the big, wide-eyed, they're just in shock.
You know?
And everybody's standing there and they're like, okay, they don't know what to do.
They don't know where to go.
They don't know what to say.
They don't know what to do.
This is the state the media wants us perpetually in.
A state of shock and confusion and disillusionment.
Because once they get you in that frame of mind, it's almost paralyzing.
So that's why these things become more ostentatious, more audacious.
They get more egregious, more flagrant.
Because they have to keep upping the entity.
The more they desensitize us by using shock value, the more they have to make it more shocking.
If you don't know, it's a little thing called trauma-based mind control.
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I'm your host, Craig James.
Now, I'm going to give you this final segment of another part of the interview, and we'll just listen to it, and then I'll explain.
Elon Musk and Doge.
Everyone knows.
That there's wasteful government spending.
It's really important.
But the cuts have had some serious consequences.
There have been cuts to foreign aid programs that save lives and keep people alive overseas.
There's been research at the National Institutes of Health on cancer, on Alzheimer's, that has had to be stopped.
The question I think people have is, did Doge go too far, too fast, too reckless?
No, I think Doge has been, look, saved $150 billion, billion.
We saved, that's a lot of money.
There's also a lot of things right now under investigation, which is going to increase that amount by a lot.
That's a tremendous amount of money.
There are some things where...
When I heard about them, I put them back, as you know.
There are things that I'm considering right now putting back, but overall we've saved hundreds of billions of dollars.
Well, the original promise was $2 trillion went to $1 trillion, now to $150 billion and heading south.
You don't know what it's going to be because we have things at a very high level that are being looked at right now.
We also found tremendous waste, fraud, and abuse, as you know.
We found a lot of fraud.
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A legal note, fraud is a crime.
There have been no referrals to the Justice Department on any of these.
Well, you don't know that, do you?
How do you know that?
Have there been referrals?
How would you know that, that there were no referrals?
I think there were referrals.
There's been no investigation from the Justice Department.
How do you know that?
I'm asking you, sir.
No, you're not asking me.
You made a statement.
Now I'm asking you.
That was a statement that you made.
Now I'm asking you.
Have there been?
Yes, there have been.
So there have been referrals for fraud?
Of course there have been.
Take a look at some of these things that took place.
Billions of dollars were given to people for no reason whatsoever.
I mean, do I even need to explain this?
Yeah, no, there were fraud.
There was fraud.
First of all, beside the point that Pam Bondi has made it abundantly clear that these referrals have been made, And she is, in fact, the Attorney General of the United States.
And a lot of times, when you make a referral, right, for an investigation to take place into an issue like fraud or corruption or something like that, you don't get...
It's not like the referral comes with, here's a list of all the people involved so they can go destroy evidence and we can really go after and, you know, give them a heads up before we really fully conduct the investigation.
No.
You do the investigation, then you bring forth charges.
This CBS, the ABC fake news reporter is like, well, there are done legal note.
This doesn't exist, except there are examples.
Like Lee Zeldin over at the EPA, literally referring conflict of interest and oversight failures related to a greenhouse gas reduction fund to the Office of the Inspector General.
That's the Washington Times, March 25th, 2025.
Go look it up.
That's just one example, and Pam Bonney said there are many others.
Look, this is how they operate.
In the realm of lies and manipulation.
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A lot to cover.
Where do I even begin?
All right.
There's so many things that are worth noting.
Yesterday, or a couple days ago actually, now.
Tucker Carlson had an interview with Catherine Austin Fitz, who you've probably heard featured here on this station from time to time.
She is a very...
The insightful person used to work for Bush, kind of extracted herself from that apparatus after waking up to what she was a part of.
She's got history working in finance, and she understands economics fairly well, I would say, maybe an understatement.
And she also has been sort of a vocal proponent of the theories surrounding You know, the dumbs.
You go, what's a dumb?
Deep underground military bases, this runaway, breakaway civilization, the unaccounted for trillions of dollars in spending that have been constructing these massive underground cities that are housing some of this,
you know, sort of advanced technology.
All of it.
She kind of blows the whistle on it all and says, you know, this is what they don't want you to know.
And honestly, it makes perfect sense, right?
I remember, you know, when I was a kid, they were like, by 2025, man, we'll be flying in cars and it'll be hovercrafts and you'll go to the moon for a vacation.
Now, we're not quite there yet, at least publicly.
According to her and many others, you know, there is a next level of advancement that our government has achieved with regard to technology.
And they've done this not just by, you know, having the technology, but then spending huge amounts of money and wealth in developing, advancing, and hiding this technology from...
Not just the public here in America, but in the world abroad.
And that this is something, you know, many governments share in common.
And, yeah, of course.
Of course our government has a giant city underground or multiple cities underground.
Of course.
I mean, Denver, for instance.
Denver International Airport.
I mean, there are so many stories about what's going on underneath there.
But it's not just there.
I mean, there's a network of underground bases and installations that are housing, surely, all of our secret technology.
There's nothing on, with satellites and satellite technology and everything that's come with that, there's nothing above ground that's really unknown, right?
And even in the furthest depths of the ocean, you know, you have some semblance of an idea of what's down there.
So the next logical place to go would be underground.
This is why many countries have bunkers under mountains, because it's secret and safe.
And it's not impervious by any means, but it is the best that I think that we have on this planet.
Now, she did this whole interview and talked about, starting in the 1990s, The leaders in America decided to implement this plan to steal trillions of dollars to sort of help facilitate the creation of this breakaway civilization with the secret bunkers and the advanced technologies,
but moreoverly, to combine that with the digital prison overlay.
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You know, there's so many different ways of describing it.
But that these actions have been taking place over decades.
And we are finally getting to a point now where people are starting to realize that everything's not quite what it seems.
So stay tuned.
We're going to take a break.
We're going to come back.
We're going to play a couple clips from it.
I'm going to give you a theory about why they're doing this because she speaks directly to this in her interview and I want to comment on it.
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And I want to play some of this Catherine Austin Fitz interview with Todd Carlson where they talk specifically about these deep underground military bases, what the plans are for space, who sort of is behind it to a degree, and what is happening here.
Which, look, like with anyone, I think Catherine's great.
I like a lot of her stuff.
I disagree with her on certain things, and I agree with her on a lot of things.
There are many people I can say that about.
But in this particular regard, I think she's almost entirely giving us a very good idea of what may be going on behind the scenes.
So let's jump over.
This is Tuck Carlson, Catherine Austin Fitz, and they're talking now.
They're going to start talking about the banker's plan to conquer space.
And then extinction-level events, then secret underground bases, and other things.
Let's listen.
And thank you for saying that.
I want to just go one more time to the space question.
So you said that people with power at the central banks decided that we need to sort of colonize space or move towards space.
Did that happen?
So, here's what happened, and we have two wrap-ups, and I think I sent them to you.
One is, we published in 2015, called Space Here We Go, and it's got a picture of a businessman, you know, taking off in a spaceship.
And then we, in 2017, after a couple of the big investment banks wrote big things about space investment, we wrote one called The Space-Based Economy.
And then we tracked space on Salary Report, so I would refer you to that.
But I think...
You know, first of all, you've seen a lot of capital centralized into a few billionaires who then reinvest that money in space.
So Musk, Bezos, you know, so clearly there's a centralization of capital and a reinvestment.
So the idea of space is what, I mean, just the biggest possible picture, why would you be interested in space?
I say this as someone who's not.
Right.
So let me give you a couple reasons why.
First of all, you're looking for, the miners are looking for a variety of different resources.
So there are practical reasons, if you can get the cost down, that you would want to do asteroid mining.
The big one, the big economic one, is control is most easily implemented by satellites.
So you want to put up a whole ring of satellites that, combined with telecommunications, can basically help run the control grid.
And not just the control grid in the West, the control grid.
If you're going to shift huge amounts of money globally, how are you going to track and enforce that your money is being properly invested?
Well, you need a control grid globally.
So I think that's part of it.
The last thing, and I don't know the answer to this, is I think there is real concern about geophysical risks.
And one way to deal with that is to make sure we don't bet the ranch on one planet.
So to that, if we could just linger on that, thank you for that.
That'll make sense.
If we just linger on one question, so geophysical risks.
So we've been lectured for, I don't know, 30 years now about climate change.
Climate change is obviously an ongoing feature of life on this planet.
It's just an op.
So, of course, it's an op.
And I think we, you know, people have figured that out.
Yeah.
But that doesn't mean that smart, highly informed people aren't worried about geophysical risks.
They are, and I know some of them are.
So what do you think those risks are, that honest, smart people who are interested in self-preservation and thriving, what are the risks they're worried about?
So I think the first is a solar minimum, where you get big drops in the economy and the agriculture, and you can't feed the population.
Right.
Because there are changes in climate because of...
Right.
So we know throughout history, we go through periods of solar minimum.
Solar minimum is the name?
I think it's called solar minimum.
I'm not an expert in any of this.
So they are worried about climate change, but they don't think it's coming from your suburban.
Right.
It's not coming from human behavior.
Now, there are environmental problems coming from human behavior.
For sure.
That's for sure.
Right.
So that's one.
And do you think that risk is real?
I don't know.
For the record, I have one friend who's very well-informed who has convinced me that that is real.
That they're very concerned about water.
If you look at the history, you know, of solar minimums and you look at what it does to, you know, there was a Russian, I can't remember if he was an economist or scientist, that did a lot of research on the stock market and solar activity.
You know, and if you're the central bankers and you're in charge of managing the financial system, that reality would make me very nervous.
Okay.
So, you know, I think there's something there worth understanding.
The other thing is, it appears to me, if you go back through history, Every 10,000, 12,000 years, we have some kind of huge disaster.
An extinction event.
A near-extinction event.
So I don't know if you've ever read the science fiction book, Three-Body Problem.
No.
It's fascinating.
It's one of the top Chinese science fiction, and it's about...
I've read no Chinese science fiction.
Okay.
I'm feeling very ignorant this morning.
No, no, no, no, because here's the thing.
I'm just trying to figure out what in the world is going on.
Amen.
And so that always, as you know, that always leads you to the most...
It does.
Right.
So in one, I think the thing that got me to read Three-Body Problem was Obama made some cryptic comment about people ought to read this book.
It was like, hint, hint, you know, here are the problems I'm dealing with.
And the Three-Body Problem is about...
Other bodies that come into the solar system, and it's impossible to predict their trajectory, and then when they do, they create this catastrophic flooding and earthquakes and all this other stuff.
Anyway, but I think that whether it's a pole shift, a magnetic pole shift is one of the theories of what causes these events, but there is a history of near-extinction events.
And one of the things that I've looked at, because I'm trying to figure out, you know, between fiscal 1998 and fiscal 2015, There were 21 trillion of undocumented adjustments in the U.S. government.
If you go to our website, missingmoney.salyer.com, we have years and years of documentation, including the government financials that show this.
And so the question is, where is all this money going?
And one of the things I've looked at in the process of looking at where all this money is going is the underground base and city infrastructure and transportation system that's been built.
I'm sorry?
Yes.
So we have built an extraordinary number of underground bases and supposedly transportation systems.
Some of these are documented as part of the national security infrastructure.
I think there are many more.
In the United States?
In the United States and all over the world.
But from 2021 to 2023, I took one of the smartest subscribers in the Soleri report.
And he and I spent two years collecting all the data and all the allegations on underground bases.
And then we systematically went through and tried to estimate our guess, this is totally a guess, of how many underground bases both underground in the United States but also underground under the ocean around the United States.
And our estimate was 170 with the transportation network connecting them.
And what would be the purpose?
The purpose, if you thought you were going to get a near extinction event, so to me there are two purposes.
You have so many activities going on that you need to keep secret that you're basically building the capacity to, for example, if you're doing a secret space program, you need to platform it from, you know, things that can't be seen.
But I think if you're worried about a near extinction event, you know, that's...
So I know nothing about this other than my only window into it, I knew a contractor who worked on one in Washington, in the city of Washington, D.C. And I remember him telling me about a power box, like a transformer box on Constitution Avenue that he told me,
because he worked on it personally, was actually the exit, the egress from White House.
That was kind of by vehicle.
I thought that was, I was like, really?
He goes, oh, yeah, no, I installed it, I know.
And I thought, well, that's kind of crazy.
They're in the middle of this big city where I live.
I lived and I was on Constitution Avenue every day.
You could build something like that without me knowing it under the VP's house at the Naval Observatory, same thing.
I think most people know that.
Next to my brother's house on Macomb Street in D.C. also.
So, like, but that's, I always thought that was, like, preparation for nuclear war.
Like, I didn't really think about it that much.
Some of it is, yeah.
It's preparation for catastrophe.
So, but you think that there are facilities like that in other places outside D.C.?
Oh, yeah.
So, if you're interested, we have a great interview.
I did an interview of Richard Dolan on Underground Bases on the Solari Report, and it's sort of an introduction to the topic, and it's based on a lot of the research of a guy named Richard Sauter, who...
It's very hard to interview, so Richard kind of went through all the material.
And, you know, clearly it's, I don't know if you ever saw, Washington Post did a project, it was in 2010 or 12, called Top Secret America, and one of the reporters, it was a team of two reporters, one of them put together a database of all the different top secret installations that had been built in the country,
including since the Patriot Act.
And what you saw was just this explosion of money in building so many both underground and above ground facilities.
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Thank you.
So, I think that's very powerful.
There's a little cut to a Tucker Carlson ad read there.
But the funny thing is, what she's speaking on in that segment is something I've been saying, many have been saying for quite a long time, but it does make sense that they have a preparation plan.
If you think about it...
You know, when you think of continuity of government, right, which is the protocols that are put in place so that in the event of some kind of disaster where government ceases to function as it functions today, that there is still a government in place to keep the nation running as a functional entity,
right?
That continuity of government wouldn't just cover nuclear war.
I mean, that's been the number one thing they've told us about continuity of government.
It's like, this is for nuclear war.
We have continuity of government because if there was a disaster where we were bombed and the Russians invaded, we would have to have a way to keep government alive and going.
So they use a lot of that as pretext, war and other things.
Perhaps even natural disasters like hurricanes and, you know, whatever.
You know, they may even use something to that.
Well, if there was some cataclysmic natural disaster, then we would have to have government in function in certain places at ways.
But I think that the sort of the pretext or the subtext for it all is they know that the earth works in this cyclical nature.
They know that disasters have happened.
They understand the history of, you know, what happens as a planet and how things can change drastically.
And, you know, me as a believer in scripture, it literally talks about these kind of things in scripture, you know, disasters that took out entire cities, mountains coming out of the ground, you know, floods that cover the whole
earth. And it's all kind of covered in there.
Right. So.
And to believe that those things are possible and that they happen, I think only for me as a Christian solidifies my faith and belief because it proves to me that this world is temporal.
Right.
But I digress.
The point I'm making is, of course they're making these underground military bases.
Of course they have, you know, however many she said, 170 or so.
Of course they are all connected with these networks.
And this is one of the most closely guarded secrets.
And what she gets into a little bit later is the fact that there are trillions of dollars that are missing.
Right?
There was, what, $2 trillion on September 10th that the Pentagon says, well, we, you know, I don't know.
And then September 11th happens.
Well, you know, who knows?
$2 trillion.
I don't know.
Maybe it was all in World Trade Center Tower 7 and it just collapsed before we could figure out what was going on.
But, you know, collapse, quote unquote.
I'm using air quotes where I say collapse in case you don't know because we all know it was demolished just like the towers were.
Oh yeah, a jet made a giant skyscraper, one of the tallest skyscrapers in the world, freefall collapse in on its own footprint.
Two times.
No, two times in one day and then a third time, just in case you were wondering.
And that building didn't even get hit by a plane.
But it freefall collapsed into its own footprint as well.
So, hey, this is like totally normal, right?
It's nothing to see here.
The missing money, she says there's like $21 trillion in money that's been sort of quote-unquote misplaced, but it's really being used for these sort of operations.
And that all makes sense.
The numbers, I think, align.
I think they're preparing for this.
I think she's 100% right on that point.
And I think it's worth noting that, you know, It does sort of play into the Ecclesiastes theme that we've been talking about and listening to throughout these shows over the last few weeks.
The futility of our efforts as humans.
What did Solomon realize over time is that everything's futile.
All his endeavors were for nothing.
Because he based all of his endeavors on the things that were of this world and never took the Took the time to look beyond it.
But anyway, stay tuned.
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I want to play some more of this Catherine Austin Fitz Tucker Carlson interview, if that's okay.
But just to finish my thought I was having before as we went to the break, you know, talking about all of this, right?
I mean, yes, this is all happening.
Of course, the idea is that...
The, you know, elites, the bankers, whatever you want to call them, whoever, they have this idea of preservation, right?
They're going to go live in the bunker.
You know, Mark Zuckerberg's got his bunker in Hawaii and everybody's got their little bunker.
They're going to go live under the ocean and deep undersea military bases or they're going to leave this planet and go to Mars and live on Mars because Mars is going to save us.
But the reality is, no matter where you go, no matter what you do, No matter, some of them even have this idea that, oh, I'm going to transfer my consciousness into a robot or some sort of surrogate body clone,
and I will live forever, you know?
Some people think they can, you know, become healthy enough and they'll live forever.
Whatever it is.
The one thing that I think a lot of these people are sort of failing to stop and sort of smell the roses, metaphorically speaking, with, Is that we all die.
You know, pharaohs had this great idea that, you know, if they were able to put their head on a statue and make it big enough, that they would live forever, right?
Because people would see them and they would know that they were there forever.
You know, like they would worship them forever.
What happened to them?
Well...
The winds of erosion and sand have worn it down to where it's nothing more than a tourist trap in Egypt now where, you know, you get a bunch of locals trying to pickpocket you and sell you cheap trinkets,
you know, and they make Hollywood movies about, you know, fictionalizing these characters, but nobody really remembers them.
Nobody will really remember the people living in the deep underground military bases.
I mean, I'm not saying that to be pessimistic.
I'm just saying that it just shows you how people focus so much on developing the things to preserve this life, which is temporal.
It's temporary.
It's here today, gone tomorrow.
And I love that...
You know, you can find this perspective in understanding the actions of others.
And like I said, Saul found that out through many trials and through basically gaining the whole world and then realizing that it was all for nothing because there's only one thing that outlasts the temporal world,
and that is the eternal God.
So, I just thought that was funny.
But let's jump ahead in this interview.
I want to listen to a couple more minutes of talk about...
What I do find very interesting, which is the sort of secret energy sources and things that exist.
Listen to this.
It's expensive.
It's unbelievable.
And it raises lots of practical questions.
How do you ventilate them?
What about food and water supply?
Where's the energy?
Are we using breakthrough energy?
Where's the energy coming from?
Right.
Because I'm sure that we have the ability to produce breakthrough energy at very low cost.
Why are you sure of that?
My Dutch partners...
I met because they were doing a series of conferences on breakthrough energy, and they brought together breakthrough energy inventors from around the world.
And, you know, you can see all the videos up on the Internet and really went through the history from Tesla on of different inventors who have discovered and claimed different innovations with breakthrough energy.
And I'm convinced that this energy exists, and I'm also convinced if you look at a lot of the really fast ships, you know, flying around the planet, you know, that they're not using.
Classical electricity.
Right.
So, you know...
They're not running a diesel.
Right.
Exactly.
Right.
So...
Yeah.
So we know that these...
I'm sorry if I get so caught up in the details, but we know that there are quite a number of large underground bases in the United States.
We can state that as fact.
Right.
And then the question becomes, of course, like if they're connected to the power grid, you know, if they're pulling off just a conventional natural gas electricity generation station, you could like know that and measure it.
But you think they have independent energy sources?
Of course they do.
So one of the questions I have that I think is really important is when you look at breakthrough energy, if you were running the planet, so I have this nickname for the committee at the top, Mr. Global.
If you were Mr. Global, you would not want to implement breakthrough energy on a widespread basis for a variety of reasons, one of which is everybody got a hold of it and weaponized it.
It could be very dangerous.
Why?
My understanding is that...
Literally one small group of people could take this, you know, with no sovereign powers or, you know, just organized crime and use it in a way that could weaponize it and make it very dangerous.
I don't, I'm not a scientist.
I don't really understand.
Right, but energy by definition is dangerous.
You know, gasoline is dangerous.
Right.
Right, electricity is dangerous.
Of course, nuclear energy is dangerous.
Right, but if you're the risk manager and you're in charge of managing the planet, you know, this has more disruption capability, both weaponization, economic.
You know, suddenly everybody's free to do whatever they want, so they're much harder to control.
So if you're Mr. Global and you have the capacity to dramatically lower the energy cost, the other danger is then population skyrockets and you're concerned about that.
So if you're Mr. Global and you're worried about what will happen if you bring this technology out, it's very convenient to get complete control.
If you don't trust the population to be environmentally responsible or politically responsible, then complete control.
So we have a good mutual friend who's been bothering me for years to interview you.
You've got to interview her!
I'm so glad.
Well, just because he said this is like the best informed, smartest, most reasonable, mainstream, sane person I know of you.
He said this, and I was like, yeah, okay.
Anyway, I'm just really glad we did this interview because you're blowing my mind up and down.
So how convinced are you that breakthrough energy, alternate forms of energy, non-publicly disclosed forms of energy are in use by the U.S. government?
I think there's a very high chance that they're in some kind of use in a very controlled, secret way.
Yeah.
Well, there are tons of indications, and you've had a number of people, like at the contractor level, like I'm a federal contractor electrician or a concrete guy or whatever, and I was working on this underground facility.
There are a number of people who come forward to say this, and I saw what appeared to be some brand new form of energy I didn't understand.
Right.
Insane people, too.
Sean Ryan, who's a friend of mine, wonderful guy, honest man, who's a podcaster, did an interview with this guy.
Just a random blue-collar guy.
I think he was a concrete guy.
He got a call for a million yards of concrete or whatever and went to this underground facility, DOD facility, and saw clearly signs of some energy source that defied the laws of non-physics.
And there are a bunch of people who have said stuff like that.
So I don't think it's crazy.
So I have two businesses.
One is the Solary Report.
The other is Solary Screens.
I do an investment screen.
And I think...
You know, a lot has to shift in investment if we're going to have a real civilization and not misallocate.
I think we're misallocating capital terribly anyway.
But he, for 30 years, has been an investor in a breakthrough energy company.
Someone you know has been.
Yeah, yeah.
And it's called Brilliant Light.
You can go look at their website, you know, and they're really, you know, they swear they've got it.
And what is it?
Don't ask me.
Yeah.
You got to get him on.
So you think this money has...
I think what happened was when the budget deal busted in 1995, they gave up on the government.
They just said, you know, this form of government will not work as a governance structure to manage the dollar system.
They're right about that.
And, you know, they just felt it was impossible.
If you're a risk manager, you've got to turn the aircraft carrier before you hit the iceberg.
And that could be 20 years before.
Do you know what I mean?
And they just felt...
That the system wasn't working, and it required to get consensus.
You just had to dumb people down and buy them off, and it just wasn't working.
So I think they decided, okay, we're going to re-engineer government on the just-do-it method.
The first thing we're going to do is we're going to pull all the money out, we're going to put the government in a debt trap, and then we'll squeeze it and shift to the control model.
And it was a financial coup, and it started in fiscal 1998.
So it started literally October 1st, 1997.
By 2015, they had...
We had reports in their financials of $21 trillion of undocumented adjustments.
From a cash standpoint, you know, it could be $50 trillion or $10 trillion.
There's no way to tell unless you can get access to the bank records.
And then what happened was Dr. Mark Skidmore of Michigan State University and I published a study, sort of a survey we had done thanks to him and his students.
All right, we're going to take a break, come back.
I want to listen to some more of this.
This is very interesting.
Stay tuned.
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We're listening to Catherine Austin Fitts, and I like what she's laying out there.
I do.
I think she's got a lot of it, 100%.
Or at least very close to the truth.
You know, nobody can say 100%, obviously, because that's, you know, a very difficult thing to understand and know.
But I guess the only thing I would say so far from what I've heard of her is that I would say I disagree with mildly, and just to the extent that I have my own sort of understanding of things, is that, you know...
She's right in the sense that there was a decision made to create a scenario where things are squeezed out of our own self-governance and then put into this control state, and it's done through these debt bubbles,
and it's done through controlling the monetary system.
I agree with all that.
But I guess I get a little...
Precocious.
That's a good way to put it.
When I just hear people explain that, you know, it's an easy thing to use as an excuse to say everything's broken and nothing is fixable.
And not only is nothing fixable, but everybody's in on it.
Everybody's a bad actor.
You don't have...
It's the same thing when I hear the people tell me, like, Israel runs everything.
It's all the Jews.
And I'm like, there are people who are Jewish, perhaps, or Israeli, who do bad things.
That is true.
Does it mean all of them are bad?
No.
Every person in position of power in this world or in this country, they may be participating in this system, some knowingly, some unknowingly.
Some may stand in opposition to it.
Some may stand with it.
But, you know, you've got to parse through those things on an individual level.
So it's easy when you take that perspective to throw...
I'm not saying she's doing that.
I'm not saying anybody's doing that.
I'm just saying, That's my only thing, but let's listen to some more of her.
That announced that we were up to the $21 trillion.
At that point, then the next step that happened...
Remember the Kavanaugh hearings?
Very well.
Okay.
What you don't remember is during the Kavanaugh hearings, the White House, the Senate...
The House, Republican and Democrat, all of them together, instituted, issued an administrative policy called Federal Accounting Standards Advisory Board Statement 56. Yeah, I did miss that.
You did miss that.
I was busy watching Kavanaugh yell about his teenage drinking or whatever.
And what that policy said...
As a matter of administrative policy, we do not have to obey the constitutional provisions related to financial budgeting and disclosure.
We do not have to obey the laws and we do not have to obey the regulations.
What we can do is appoint a secret group of people by a secret process to move money out of the financial disclosures of the United States.
And 150, so it's the 24 covered agencies plus approximately 150 governmental entities.
And when you throw in the classification laws and the national security laws, it also applies to the big banks and contractors working for the U.S. government.
Now, let me explain what this means as a matter of investment.
When I look at the U.S. large-cap stock market or the U.S. bond market, the treasury market, I have no financial disclosure that has any meaning.
Everything's secret.
I have no idea what it means.
If I pick up the financials of a New York Fed member bank that is running the U.S. Treasury Department's bank accounts, or if I pick up the Treasury financial statements, they're meaningless.
They don't mean anything.
All right, let's fast forward.
I want to hear one more clip here where she talks about who the masterminds behind the central banks are.
Listen to this.
It's by the taxpayer and keep on going.
So now is the point of the conversation where I have to ask the other question, which is, who are these people?
So can you name some of the people who you believe are making these decisions, whose decisions are effectively, as you just said, above the law, have effective immunity?
Right.
So that's the question, sort of, who is Mr. Global?
And my experience is the bureaucracy that sort of runs things is the central banking bureaucracy.
So we've described the BIS and the central bankers.
So think of the planet as a house.
So you have the house.
Then you have financing the house, that's the mortgage.
Then you have the insurance, and you know if you don't have the insurance, then you have the equity in the house, right?
And the insurance layer is very, very important to make sure that the equity is protected, right?
Okay.
So you've got the real assets, you've got the banking system, you've got the insurance system, and then you've got the owners.
So in my experience, if you go to the BIS and you look at the systemically important institutions and the members, that's the bureaucracy that runs the debt and the transaction system, so the transactions.
Because the whole thing depends on being able to swap and transact.
The insurance group is very important for the reasons you just described, same as on your house.
And then the question is, who are the real owners?
And that's the mystery.
And I've spent my whole life trying to figure out who are the real owners.
And basically, from what experience I've had, if you know their name, they're not one of the important owners.
Do you know what I mean?
It's intergenerational pools of capital.
Now, here's what's interesting.
Yeah.
So she comes to the same conclusion I've come to on this show a dozen or a thousand times, which is that, you know, when it goes to who, right?
Who are these people, right?
Is it Mossad?
Is it the CIA?
Is it, you know, the deep state?
Is it the Russians?
I don't know.
She comes to the same conclusion I've said.
It's generational wealth.
It is the aristocracies and the monarchies, the wealth that has been...
You know, accumulating along family bloodlines, and people say, you know, they know the name Merovigian bloodlines, and it's that.
Those bloodlines and the power of generational wealth is what controls it.
And again, she makes a great point, which I agree with.
If you know their name, they're not a part of the real controllers, right?
And I think she says that more colloquially, like, It's not the Trumps or, you know, Bezos or Zuckerberg or whoever, or Tesla or Elon Musk.
It's the generational wealth of these aristocracy markets that have been, you know, establishing and creating and storing wealth, passing it down from generation to generation for hundreds and hundreds of years.
Right?
For instance, the Vatican.
For instance, the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.
For instance, you know, I believe George Soros has ties to the sort of, a lot of the Jewish generational wealth, right?
Those are the kind of things, that's why people, and George Soros is obviously just a byproduct.
I don't think he is the end or be-all.
You see that, and those are the places that you look to see who's controlling the show.
And she makes a great point.
So hats off to Catherine Austin Fitz.
We'll be back.
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back to Just Form Talk Radio.
It is our final segment.
Man, time flies.
And, you know, we always leave you with some hope and encouragement.
Scripture today is no different.
We're going to go to the book of Psalms and get this.
I found a Psalm, Psalm 52, which speaks to sort of everything we talked about today, right?
From the start of the show till the end.
You know, I think this psalm speaks to how we can find, perhaps, discernment in understanding these things, and I love it.
It's Psalm 52. I'm going to read the whole thing.
It says this, and this is about God judging the proud, and it says this, Why brag about evil, you hero?
God's faithful love is constant, like a sharpened razor.
Your tongue devises destruction.
You love evil instead of good.
Lying instead of speaking truthfully.
You love any words that destroy, you treacherous tongue.
This is why God will bring you down forever.
He will take you, ripping you out of your tent.
He will uproot you from the land of the living.
The righteous will look on with awe and will ridicule him.
Here is the man who would not make God his refuge but trusted in the abundance of his riches, taking refuge in his destructive behavior.
But I am like a flourishing olive tree in the house of God.
I trust in God's faithful love forever and ever.
I will praise you forever for what you have done in the presence of your faithful people.
I will put my hope in your name, for it is good.
Now I share those words because when I found this psalm and I read it, I thought this spoke directly to...
What we looked at today, right?
From the beginning where we talked about the lies and deception and manipulation to the end where we talked about the faith that man puts in being able to save themselves from an inescapable future, right?
Thinking that they know better than God or that they can outsmart God or that they can trick God.
But God will not be mocked.
We all will end up in the same place as far as what our life holds or where our life will end.
It's where we go after that most people don't take too much time to think about.
So perhaps that's where we as Christians, believers, and perhaps even you out there who are not, may turn your focus today and contemplate and remember these words.
That we should trust in God's faithful love forever and ever and understand that there's no abundance of riches that will provide us refuge from our own destructive behavior.
So that's where I'm going to leave it.
I want to thank you guys for listening.
This has been a great episode.
We'll be back tomorrow with Nick Ngo, God willing, to do it all over again, same time, same place.
Again, I always invite everybody, if you haven't made a relationship with Jesus Christ, I invite you to do it now.
Find that eternal life that's waiting for you abundantly, that's beyond this temporal world.
And I'm going to leave it there.
Thanks for listening.
We'll be back tomorrow.
Thanks to the callers.
Thanks to the texters.
Thanks to the listeners.
I know there are no callers today, but thanks to everybody.
We'll be back tomorrow.
Godspeed and God bless each and every one of you patriots.
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The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society.
Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government, which is the true ruling power of our country.
Edward Bernays, Propaganda, 1928.
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