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Hope you guys are having a wonderful, wonderful day.
And boy, do we have a lot to cover in today's show.
We're going to try to get through some of the bigger stories of the last 24 hours that you need to know about and we're going to discuss.
So, I want to jump straight into it.
One of the biggest stories, as far as I'm concerned, is what I've recently noticed happening.
Behind closed doors within our government, it seems as though the more Trump openly and actively tries to defy this deep state bureaucracy, which is controlling most of the government writ large as it is now.
The more desperate they get.
And a story has just come up that was brought to my attention, I think, kind of embodies this very well.
And it is Michael Schellenberger.
Now, if you're not familiar with who Michael Schellenberger is, he has a number of different stories he's broken over the last several weeks, months, and maybe even years.
Particularly, though, he was one of the journalists brought in after Elon Musk took over Twitter to expose what was later called the Twitter files, which was a number of damning pieces of information showing backdoor communications between which was a number of damning pieces of information showing backdoor communications between the online social media platform Before it was taken over by Elon Musk.
And government organizations like the FBI. Going as far as to have a litany of communications detailing how the social media company was being asked to curb certain stories and censor and throttle and do other things at the behest of the government who didn't want the stories to get out, which is absolutely insane.
But it was true, and he was one of the reporters, Michael Schellenberger, who brought this to the forefront and exposed it for all to see.
Now, we fast forward, and he's broken a few more stories since then, but now he's coming out and claiming that he has access to information that's brought to him by a whistleblower at the FBI who is telling him That FBI employees are currently destroying evidence on servers,
and he's already informed Kash Patel of this, who is the incoming FBI director.
Actually, he's, I guess, been sworn in, so he is now the FBI director after his Senate confirmation.
I don't know what's going to be coming of all of this, to be quite honest, but I do know that...
This is pretty dammit.
Now, I can guess what information is being destroyed, but I mean, I don't want to.
It's such a tricky thing.
You want to thread the needle here, because if I say the wrong thing, you might upset a large amount of people, but when have I ever cared about that, I guess, right?
I would imagine some of the documents being shredded.
I don't know.
Let's guess.
Let's take a guess here.
The interagency communications between the FBI and foreign intelligence services working with them to, I don't know, let's say perhaps run blackmail operations with high-profile billionaires on islands in the Caribbean.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Maybe I'm taking that a bridge too far.
But...
It's a worthwhile guess, but there are also other instances of information that they would surely have an incentive to want to destroy, like the documents pertaining to the raid at Mar-a-Lago, for example.
What led up to that decision being made?
Who were the players involved?
I would imagine, as a man who thinks independently and critically, that...
The information in those files being destroyed may implicate people at the FBI currently who would like nothing more than to remain inside the organization to act as sleepers for the deep state bureaucracy that we know is in a complete panic mode, desperation time, trying to stay relevant and within the halls of power so that they can keep themselves from facing what would be rightful, the culpability they should
trying to stay relevant and within the halls of power so that they can So that's just a couple guesses on my end as to what information, if they are destroying information and evidence.
Uh, That would be the kind of information I would think they would be.
I have a highly vested interest, let's just say, in making sure does not ever see the desk of Kash Patel.
Now, think of the people who we've had as the previous directors of the FBI. We can go back down the list.
I mean, Christopher Wray, you know, for better or worse, he was better than most, but worse than most as well.
He oversaw the whole January 6th, you know...
The persecutions that took place, the investigations which led to the incredible, inhumane injustices committed against a lot of innocent people.
Now, I'm not saying there weren't people who did bad things on January 6th.
There were people who broke the law, and they should be held to account.
I'm all for that.
There were a lot of people who were entrapped by agent provocateurs and what they call CIs, criminal informants like Ray Epps.
Possibly, allegedly.
Don't sue me, Ray.
But that were entrapped.
You know, they took down signs, they pulled down barricades, they directed crowds, the police waved people in.
That's literally called entrapment.
But nobody seemed to care about that, and they got away with that crime.
Now, the point, though, I'm trying to make is that what we've seen now, is a desperate attempt to get rid of all of this evidence that would point to the corruption happening within the FBI. Christopher Wray was a director who Of course, I'm not a big fan of.
He was also the guy who helped oversee the persecution of Catholics for praying outside of abortion clinics, which is insane.
But then you keep going down the list, and prior to him, of course, we had James Comey.
Now, I don't know if you guys have a long enough memory to remember, but I do.
The days of James Comey interfering in our 2016 election with the whole Hillary Clinton email server fiasco, which I don't even know where to begin with that.
Announcing in October that they're not going to pursue charges even though there was evidence of crimes.
Okay, that's great.
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James Clapper and John Brennan, respectively, of the DNI and the CIA to do the whole Trump-Russia hoax.
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And we're going to be joined a little bit later in the show by a good friend of mine who we'll introduce later.
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But before we get there, we have a lot more time.
And in that time, I really want to keep covering this story because it does lead into a number of other stories.
I think it's all kind of interconnected.
As I was sort of doing the research on all of this last night and kind of getting it together, I'd found this one post that was really interesting.
So Michael Schellenberger, in his announcement of this, he tags, and of course this being for anybody who's just joining us, and FBI whistleblowers come forward and say the FBI are currently engaged in the practice of destroying evidence in servers.
Perhaps related to a number of the crimes that we know they are most likely involved in over there at the FBI, the corrupt FBI, unfortunately.
I mean, look, fact of the matter is, I wish it wasn't this way.
I truly do.
I wish with every fiber of my being that there weren't corrupt people running these institutions.
That, to me, is a shame, and it's abhorrent, and it's awful, but it is where we are, nonetheless.
There is no way we can change that.
However, like I was saying, in this post, which he put out there, talking about this being brought to him, and Michael Schellenberger, the reason to see...
I've watched him and his work over the years.
He's the kind of journalist who will not go with a story unless he has...
He has the verifiable proof to make it a legitimate story.
And this is not just some hearsay.
It's floating around online.
People are saying it's not true.
But I'm going to go ahead and give the benefit of the doubt to Michael and say this is a true story.
This is actually happening because it actually makes perfect sense as well.
He tags the Attorney General, Pam Bondi, the new Director of the CIA, John Ratcliffe, Elon Musk, and of course, our favorite Congresswoman, Anna Paulina Luna.
Now, I've said what I've said about Anna Paulina Luna, and I stand by what I've said about her.
Anna Paulina Luna...
For those of you who don't know, is the member of Congress currently in charge of overseeing the subcommittee from the House Oversight Committee that is involved in federal secrets?
Yes, folks.
The Federal Secrets Committee that is going to get to the bottom of JFK and 9-11 and everything.
I mean, they're going to tell you the truth that you've never heard before, and you're going to be thankful for it.
Obviously, I've told you my skepticism surrounding that disclosure, because to recap briefly what I've said, for anybody who's new or just tuning in, I've said previously that this whole Committee on Federal Secrets,
that's a subcommittee through the House Oversight Committee, that's being run by this former stripper, Anna Paulina Luna, I would argue that the national security implications of the real truth behind things like, I don't know, 9-11, JFK, and all the other stories they claim to Epstein, etc., etc., the real, full, unredacted, raw truth will never see the light of day.
We will never see that.
We will never get that.
Now, I'd love to eat crow, eat my words, and be wrong on this, right?
I doubt I am.
I often make predictions here, and I have a pretty good track record of being correct in my assessments.
So what I think is going to happen with that committee is essentially it's going to be sort of a limited hangout.
We're going to get partial truths about these incidents.
And I've explained it in a simple way as to say...
The official cover stories for a lot of these conspiracies were sufficient for the time in which they were created.
Meaning, the official cover story for JFK was sufficient when all you had was a Zapruder film, and a couple eyewitness testimonies, and no internet, and everybody knew to keep their mouth shut, and nobody came forward with any other information.
But eventually...
As we've had here on the show, people like Jim Scott, James Files, we had Lee Harvey Oswald's girlfriend, whom I'm drawing a blank on her name right now.
We find that the real story is much, much more deep and nefarious than it even seems at first, right?
The real stories of those incidents, JFK, 9-11, etc., would have severe national implications.
I mean, could you imagine, as I said before, let's hypothetically say that the conspiracy theorists are correct about 9-11 and that it was an inside job orchestrated by our own government.
To bring down towers, to start this war on terror, to give us an existential threat to which we could combat in a vague war on terror, which is something I'm not sure still to this day what that means, so that we could go bomb Iraq and bomb Afghanistan and make a massive presence and push China and Russia out of the Middle East so that we could have...
Stop their westward expansion while also expanding our domain in that region and securing and solidifying the necessity for the petrodollar fiat currency system, etc., etc., etc.
Well, what do you think our allies and others will think, our allies and our enemies at least, will think when we publicly announce to our own citizens that, hey, yeah, we killed 3,000 of our own people to facilitate this war because it was for your own good?
Well, A, I don't think our allies would like it too much.
B, I don't think our enemies would like it too much.
And C, I don't think our people would like it too much.
I mean, you ever watch Frankenstein and see the scene where pitchforks and torches show up at the castled gate?
I mean, I feel like every federal building in the country may have a scenario playing itself out like that.
If Anna Paulina Luna, the former stripper, goes on to her committee and says, yeah, it was us who did it, so our bad.
That's one example.
JFK, same thing.
Hey, we killed a president because he didn't want to play ball with our deep state, and that led to the expansion of wars in the Asia-Pacific theater, which led to the deaths of countless millions of people.
But no big deal.
Our bad, right?
I don't think that the full truth is coming out in these committees.
So, what I expect to happen, again, is a limited hangout scenario.
They rework the official stories, add in.
They basically will, all of the things that conspiracy theorists have been able to poke holes in those stories with over the last, you know, several decades, they will account for in some form or fashion with new evidence.
They've probably wargamed this out with AI systems behind closed doors, making more ironclad.
You know, tight stories, cover stories, official cover stories that will be re-released through this Committee on Federal Secrets under the guise of, you know, whatever.
And I'm not even saying I'm against this because I understand the national security implications.
I get it.
It would be stupid and foolish for us to be like, let's just announce that we've done horrible things to our own citizens and that's facilitated us doing horrible things to people abroad.
That's probably not the best idea for anyone involved.
Now, does that mean those people won't be held to account?
Well, I think in a lot of ways, many of the people involved in those things have been held to account, at least in the court of public opinion, even if they haven't been actually, you know, I think he genuinely regrets
a lot of decisions he made when he was in office.
He doesn't like being a part of the public sphere anymore because of the guilt he feels, which is a whole other story.
You know, Bill Clinton and Hillary, my gosh, look at them.
They've been shredded in the court of public opinion.
I mean, everything from their connection to the Clinton Foundation, Hillary and Benghazi, Clinton and the server thing, and Bill Clinton and all the sex scandals in Epstein Island.
I mean, they've basically had their entire reputation shredded.
And to perhaps a lesser degree, Obama, with what he's done, he's had his reputation sort of downgraded now to where he's sort of fallen into irrelevancy to a degree, although it could be argued he was running the Biden administration secretly.
But either way, things have happened over the last several decades that have created a situation where we find ourselves today, where...
As much as I hate to admit it, because I'm the kind of person who's like, truth.
We need truth.
We can't just keep covering things up.
As much as I hate to admit it, there's no scenario that I can figure out in my mind where just throwing the truth, the cards on the table, and showing the whole truth will do anything but make things worse.
It will only cause more damage.
And I know this can be tough for a lot of people to hear.
here a lot of the purists out there are going to not like those words they're going to say that's you know you're a coward you're a traitor and and right i get it look i understand but i think pragmatically i'm just laying out for you i'm not saying that i like it or that i even think it it has to be the only way but It seems to me that that is sort of where things are falling right now.
And now with Trump coming in, I guess the hope is that even though I disagree with Trump on a lot of things, and I made that clear here on air, I'm not in some cult where I worship the ground he walks on and think he's infallible.
Yeah, far from it.
He's made a lot of stupid decisions that I don't agree with, but he's made the majority of decisions that he has made I agree with.
100%.
And I think a lot of the things he's doing with the FBI right now are good.
So back to Michael Schellenberger and him destroying the evidence, and not him, but him exposing how the FBI is destroying evidence and servers that, or evidence on servers that implicates them in a lot of these crimes.
They'll write it off the same way, you know.
It would be, because here's the thing, you've got to remember.
Another example.
Let's take these FBI agents.
Yes, there are a lot of corrupt ones, but yes, there are a lot of good ones.
I would say, argue, the majority of the FBI are a lot of good guys who do the right thing, but then there's this small cadre of people who do bad things.
Okay, well, you could take down the small cadre of people who do bad things.
That's reasonable and fair.
But, I mean, one example, and this has been referenced in pop culture and movies, I think this is part of the plotline to one of the Batman movies, for crying out loud.
Is that if you take these people down, they arrested a lot of really bad people along with the people they persecuted unjustly and corruptly.
So those people who are in jail right now, perhaps, serving long sentences for very bad crimes, well, I think they would all be, you know, going to the court saying...
Oh, that FBI agent you just arrested for being corrupt and doing corrupt and illegal things, he did those in my case too.
I want a retrial.
And most judges would have to basically grant at least a retrial.
Now, I'm not saying it would lead to everybody getting out, but there are certain instances where that could have, you know, ramifications that would be very negative as well.
So the point is that they bent us over a barrel with this, really.
To put it in no uncertain terms.
They put us in a very bad position.
They committed crimes that were so heinous but so compromising to not just...
It was like they leveraged the fact that if they went down, they could bring the whole system down with them.
Those are the type of crimes that these people committed.
And for that, I'm not sure we'll ever see justice.
Maybe we will.
I know one thing, though.
In the end...
Each one of us will have to give our account before the Lord, and they will face a very severe and swift punishment unless they make themselves right with the Lord and repent and really give their life back to Christ and start making those inroads toward making those amends.
But otherwise, I have a feeling that a lot of people will get away with a lot of evil things in this world that we won't be able to control, which is why I've always said, look, You know, you take a story like this and you take it with a grain of salt and you understand it for what it is.
And I said, other thing I said before that I'll stand by and say finally here.
You'll know we don't live in a free society when people like you and me can't say these things openly anymore.
Right?
That's how you'll know.
That will be your indicator.
That'll be your North Star.
As soon as they start shutting this down, which they already are, I guess, on social media.
You know, when the FBI comes and kicks down the door and drags me off air, then that'll be your sign that things are going bad.
So let's hope not that that doesn't happen.
But anyway, we're hitting our break.
We're coming back.
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We'll read that.
And, uh...
Yeah.
Yeah, we'll read that.
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Welcome back to Just the Forum Talk Radio.
I'm your host, Craig James.
And, of course, like I said before, sorry about that little feedback there.
We're going to be joined by a very special guest here in the show today.
And I couldn't keep him off the air.
You know, he wanted to join.
So we're going to bring on my good friend, Mark, to talk about a lot of these things here.
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Without further ado, though, I want to welcome on the show my good friend, Mr. Mark.
Mark, are you there?
I am.
Thank you.
How are you?
You know, I'm doing very well.
I think I was getting into my groove this morning going through some of these stories, and I saw you wanted to pop on.
Let's just get it going, man.
I mean, what are your thoughts?
Well, first off, I've got to shout out the texters, because you guys always do a great job.
Someone from the 970 texted in and said, I summarize your position better, and it doesn't take an entire segment.
Shocker.
Craig thinks there are conspiracy theories to explain the conspiracy theories.
I mean, I think that's a fair assessment.
Yeah, that's a fair, I think it's an accurate description.
What do you think, Mark?
I think there are conspiracy theories to explain the conspiracy theories.
I really, really, truly do.
See, I like you more now, Mark, because you agree with me, and that's always a good thing.
So up until now, for anybody who's just joining us, we've been talking about Michael Schellenberger breaking this story about the FBI. Destroying evidence on servers.
We don't know exactly what the evidence is, but we can take a guess.
I've surmised everything from what happened with the Trump-Russia collusion hoax, all the way going up into, I don't know, the persecution of the Catholics, January 6th, and beyond, right?
So that's basically the story, and then I gave my sort of long...
Diatribe, you know, an explanation of what I believe this committee, the subcommittee on federal secrets is going to end up being with Anna Paulina Luna, but I guess...
Really quick, since you were anxious to get on, it seems as though you may have an opinion on this, I'll ask you, Mark, what do you think, as you were listening in on what I kind of explained earlier, what do you think I got wrong?
What do you think I got right?
I'm always interested to hear.
Well, I think the biggest thing that you said that threw my hands in the air, and I was like, wait, wait, wait, hold on, I think you're wrong about this, was very, very simply, That you think that there's going to be pitchforks and torches in the streets.
I don't think that's ever going to happen.
I think we live in a society so much that is driven by games and festivals and carnivals and entertainment that the average American public doesn't have a clue what's going on and honestly doesn't care what's going on.
Not that there's anything wrong with this, but my argument would be is when you start looking at how many people listen to shows like this as opposed to listen to sports talk radio that I don't want to say is irrelevant to your day-to-day life, but...
I mean, you start looking back at things like the Ludlow Massacre, and most people have no clue what the Ludlow Massacre was, but basically it was...
The military attacking men, women, and children in southern Colorado because they were on strike with machine gun fire.
And that happened about 100 years ago and nobody knows about it.
You start looking at more recent things like the Tuskegee experiments and a lot of things that our government has done to its citizenry in the name of progress or whatever you want to call it.
And there's no pitchforks and riots in the streets about those things.
So even when you get to COVID and more recent things, it's like people weather the storm and they go back to rooting for their favorite sports team and being oblivious to their oppression.
I think you're right.
I think that's a great point.
I think you...
Summarize it very well.
I mean, I think really it seems like today to get people motivated to go out in the streets and become sort of, you know, politically active in protest, you'd have to do something really heinous, like take away their ability to, you know, trans their kids or take away their ability to murder unborn babies in the womb, right?
I mean...
I'm saying that sort of tongue-in-cheek, but not really.
And that's the weird and sick thing about our society.
Would you agree, Mark?
Yeah, but I think the other thing about that is that gets so spun and divisive by the media, and I believe that's intentional.
I think that if I can keep me and my neighbor arguing about relatively unimportant issues, and I don't think abortion is an unimportant issue by any stretch of the imagination, but if I can divide the population and I don't think abortion is an unimportant issue by any stretch of the imagination, but if I can divide the population amongst themselves and keep them arguing about what color is better, red or blue, I don't have to intervene.
I can sit back and watch them destroy themselves.
There's an old saying that the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Well, if I let two people fight, I don't.
I mean, we've all played the board game Risk at some point in our life where, you know, people end up going toe-to-toe and you just sit back and build up and continue to line your own pockets until such time as you see to crush them both simultaneously.
I love that.
I've got to play some Risk now.
You got me.
I haven't played that in a while.
That's a fun game.
I don't know if that's...
Is that like a men thing?
Like men like playing Risk?
Or do you think women like it too?
I've never really played...
But either way, I think it's a fun game.
I enjoy it thoroughly.
I'm sure there's plenty of women out there who enjoy it too.
But no, I think you're right.
I think they want us fighting each other.
I do.
I think they want us to be at each other's throats all the time, exhausting each other, wearing each other out so that we don't have even enough energy to go after those who are really in control.
You know, a great example of that is I talked about this in a show a couple days ago maybe.
was the Occupy Wall Street movement and how that was, there's like a rabbit hole there that you can go down where if you want to find out where like the DEI woke rainbow in the profile picture, rainbow flag and profile picture thing with corporate America rainbow flag and profile picture thing with corporate America came from, all you have to do is go back to 2009, 2010 during the Occupy Wall Street movement
when the mainire and force of the political protesting left was, And some conservatives, was this shift from Democrat liberals to libertarianism, and the libertarians were starting to take over sort of the Democratic Party, and they were starting to turn their ire against Wall Street.
And it was like, in an instant, you saw the corporate boardrooms start formulating this plan to do exactly what you just described.
To create wedge issues that they could impose upon society to make us fight each other and not look at them anymore.
Well, not that I was there, but I've heard that a chunk of the Occupy people were Tea Partiers, right?
So could you imagine if the left and the right, the libertarian slash Tea Party slash progressive communist socialist folks, united forces? the libertarian slash Tea Party slash progressive communist socialist folks, I mean, where does that leave?
I mean, you're getting hit from both sides at that point.
So yeah, you've got to divide that.
You've got to break them up.
You've got to create dissension in the populace in order to continue to control the direction the way that you want it to go.
Yeah, and that's why they started mandating That, you know, these companies have these ESG scores and so on because they knew that if they could get it into corporate America, then it would force people to be confronted with it, you know, within their daily lives, and then it would cause division amongst us outside of, you know, that political realm, and then that will keep us busy.
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Other stories I want to get into.
Now, we've talked about this Michael Schellenberger story where there's an FBI whistleblower who seems to indicate that there's evidence being destroyed, trying to keep Kash Patel from having evidence to it.
I'm sure the director's office up there on the 7th floor at the J. Edgar Hoover Building in D.C. has had its read-only files.
You know, paper read-only files burned or shredded, and now the safes have been emptied, so to speak.
But they're definitely involved in that.
But now it's also seemingly across the board.
All of these bureaucracies are doing everything they can to cover their tracks.
Why?
Because what do you think Trump's been doing over the last several years?
He's been calling them out.
He's been saying, look, we know what you're doing.
You know, it's plain, it's obvious, it's clear to anyone who's paying attention.
You guys are involved in some very nefarious things, and particularly, we'll talk about the CIA here in a second, an organization whose mandate dictates that they work...
In foreign capacity only and not domestically.
I mean, they've sure had a hand in domestic politics, it seems, here in America.
And we're going to get into that here in just a second.
But before we do, any final thoughts for that, you know, the stories we've covered so far, Mark?
I don't.
No, I'm good.
Okay.
Well, I want to get into the story.
So CNN has come out.
And in an article they just published not too long ago, they discussed this, the fact that the top leadership at the FBI, or excuse me, at the CIA, the CIA's quote unquote seventh floor, which is the equivalent to the top floor of these buildings which is the equivalent to the top floor of these buildings where the big brass all
But they're worried, or they're worried anti-Trump personnel may be motivated to sell out America to foreign power.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Wait, that's a new development?
Well, let me read this, because I... I'm butchering it.
It's not written correctly grammatically, but not a big surprise since the CNN says, And on the CIA's seventh floor, home to top leadership, some officers are also quietly discussing how mass firings and the buyouts already offered to staff risk creating a group of disgruntled former employees who might be motivated to take what they know to a foreign intelligence service.
So basically what they're saying is that It's Trump's fault that these people are about to commit treason.
Am I reading that right?
That's absolutely the way that I heard what you said.
I mean, come on.
I don't know who writes stories at CNN, but you've got to have a wild imagination.
I think what they do is they go to these protests and find the person with the highest degree of Trump derangement syndrome and it's like, You ever thought about being a journalist, a writer for CNN, and they're like, what do you mean?
And they're like, come on, we got a job for you.
Yeah.
You know, but at the end of the day, at least it's consistent, right?
Because if words are violence and, you know, you made me hit you because you said something that caused me to be offended, then it's your fault that I hit you.
So that's definitely consistent.
It's just consistent on a larger level.
Oh, yeah.
No, I mean...
It's a lack of personal responsibility, but it's consistent at least.
Yeah, no, you're so right.
So they're ideologically consistent.
It's just they're consistently horrible people.
That's the problem that we keep finding ourselves in with them.
And it's no surprise.
It's no surprise.
There was a story that was released that I got to be careful just reporting on because it's so...
I don't even know personally how to even describe it.
But apparently within these intelligence agencies, there were a number of chat logs and servers which were being used to communicate some pretty, I would say, downright disgusting and heinous things.
I want to read this story, but I'm going to try to censor it as much as I can because I know that sometimes I have people tell me they listen with their families, and this is a Christian show, so we're not going to go anywhere.
We shouldn't, but a shocking report has revealed that certain deep state employees are into some of the most disgusting things imaginable.
This is being reported over, let's see, who's reporting this?
This is Cullen Linenberger reporting over at Gateway.
It says, Basically, this is from Chris Rufo at the City Journal, excuse me, and Hannah Grossman.
They announced on Monday that they had obtained chat logs from the NSA's Interlink messaging program, which exposed a secret chat room used by agency employees, with chat logs dating back over two years, which feature X-rated topics including fetishes, kink, and sex.
Now, without getting into graphic detail, because it actually makes my stomach turn, and that takes a lot, because I'm unfortunately doing this job as long as I have.
I've seen a lot of heinous, disgusting things.
But these people basically were on these government-sanctioned chat rooms talking about their surgeries, their post-surgery...
I don't even know.
I'm going to have to think about this one over the break, Mark, to be honest with you.
I don't even know how to report this without it being just like completely disgusting and x-rated, and I don't want to do that.
So you're going to want to hear this story, though, because this is going to give you a good idea of what we're dealing with here.
The level of depravity knows no bounds.
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But, no, the story kind of summarized is that there were folks at the NSA using these chat rooms to talk about really disgusting things.
I mean, of course, the story as Mark and I discussed over the break, the real story here is that this is, you know...
Taxpayer Dime funded work time where they're using it to discuss these things about transgender surgeries on themselves and what kind of, you know, sexual partners they have and what kind of sexual fetishes they have and orgies and all kinds of just horrific things, really.
You know, the other side of the coin, though, is they could be talking about how to, I know, this was the NSA? Yeah.
About, you know.
Spying on us more.
So...
They were doing this between the spying.
Let's be honest.
Let's be honest.
This is like on their coffee break.
They're in this chat room talking it up after they've got through listening to our phone calls and collecting all of our data, I'm sure.
So this is just another example.
But this, I believe, is a byproduct of DEI within government.
You know, again, another way that DEI surfaces its ugly head and becomes a corrosive sort of cancerous blight on our government agencies.
It's through this.
And, you know, these people think that they were protected.
And why wouldn't they?
I mean, they go to these HR training sessions where they're told, you know, in no uncertain terms, like, hey, you know, we embrace you.
We love you.
You know, talk about your kinks.
It's okay.
You can't be fired.
Schedule F and, you know, protects you.
Or the Schedule F, I think, helps fire them.
But you're Schedule F employees, so, you know, don't worry about it.
So, I think that this story, though, lends itself to what we've seen.
And the kind of people they recruit into these organizations, perhaps, I mean, the same idea that we see in these sort of scandalous blackmail operations, whether it's Diddy or it's Epstein, perhaps our government figured out at some point that...
If you just turn that inwardly and apply it to your own staffing and your own employment, you bring people in who are just people who can be exploited to do the things necessary.
I mean, how many of these people in this secret chat room working at one of the largest and most secretive organizations for intelligence in the United States?
And powerful.
And powerful.
How many of these employees?
Could have been compromised to do untoward things on behalf of an unelected bureaucrat within the government bureaucracy who was trying to frame somebody or get dirt on a congressman.
Oh, well, you know, it'd be a shame if these chat logs come out, but if you just give me congressman so-and-so's personal emails because they can do that at the NSA, well, then we'll just go ahead and we'll make sure this chat never sees the light of day.
So that's the kind of stuff that goes through my mind as to what could be happening.
What do you think, Mark?
Well, so my first thought was so much for a government for the people, by the people, right?
I mean, that's definitely not representative of what the average American, how they live their own lives.
So at some point that...
You kind of take a step back and go, we're being ruled by people that don't represent our own personal belief system.
Yeah.
I got another point, but I know we're heading up to a break.
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One of the bigger stories I haven't even gotten to yet, but I want to bring back on our friend, Mr. Mark.
Mark, it's hour two.
So are you ready to go down the rabbit hole on this one?
On which one?
The news still?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
We're on the news.
We'll get to you and what you have, your deal, which, by the way, is a big deal for the audience, so you're going to want to keep listening.
We're going to get to that at the bottom of the hour.
But I want to talk about this news story that's come out.
So according to reports, President Trump has identified, or at least his security detail, seems to have identified that there were listening devices found in the Oval Office.
The president's desk was removed for a security scan because they believed that that was the source for those hidden listening devices.
And, of course, this is the office of the president of the United States, the Oval Office, one of, presumably, the most secured rooms in the world.
I didn't hear about this story.
Yeah, this story's been bouncing around online.
And it seems as though this has been verified, but we're still waiting for full verification.
Of course, this is a story that I doubt will ever be fully verified if it is in fact true because of the implications of anyone being able to get a device into the highest office of the land are pretty damning, to say the least, for not just the Secret Service, but for the Trump administration itself.
And this has implications that go far beyond even just those two things as well.
Do you think it was left there from previous tenants, for lack of a better term?
That would be the assumption.
So the assumption at the moment would be that this was a leave-behind for From Biden to keep track of what Trump's doing.
However, you know, obviously, we all know it wasn't Joe Biden in his demented state.
Wait a minute.
Do you think maybe it was so the people that were running the previous presidency knew it was being said and so they could guide policy that way?
And it just happened to be there?
I mean, it could have been there for the last four years as things were directed a different direction.
Yeah, well, then they conveniently forgot to remove it, right?
I mean, that would be, I guess, the best...
If it works, why take it down?
Yeah, the best case scenario argument for them would be, well, we needed to make sure that Joe Biden didn't go to order an ice cream and accidentally set off the nuclear launch codes.
So we had to keep a track on him and we forgot to remove our listening device when we were done.
The worst case scenario is that it was intentionally implanted to spy on Trump's administration to get an idea of what was being said behind closed doors.
Again, presumably the most secured room in the world, one of the most secured rooms in the world.
But here, quickly, I want to play Alex Jones' take on it.
He had something to say about this.
Let's hear it.
The news cycle is moving so hyper-fast.
I'd call this the news cycle singularity, really.
There's not even a news cycle now.
It's just things are changing minute by minute that so many huge stories break and then just disappear.
Yesterday, it came out in the morning that the famous Resolute desk in the Oval Office had a listening device in it when they did a sweep four days ago.
But the news broke yesterday.
The White House spokesperson said yes.
They found a listening device in it.
They found it transmitting.
Totally illegal.
And, of course, you know it's the CIA, the deep state, the Democrats.
It could be foreign governments as well.
They caught the Israeli spying on Clinton and the phones tapped.
It just goes on and on.
But the fact that that came out, and it's just a bloop, is stunning.
I agree with Alex.
I agree with Alex.
I think it is stunning that that's all that we get from it.
And to be quite honest, you know...
The funny thing was that when this story first came out, the way I heard about it originally was the way that it was reported on by the media.
Get this, Mark.
You'll love this, to give you an idea of how corrupt our deep state is, or excuse me, our media is.
Same thing.
That's a good point.
The original story from the media was that during Elon Musk's visit to the White House, And the time in which he spent in the Oval Office with his son, Little X or whatever he calls him.
That the child, when he was there in the Oval Office, wiped a booger on the desk.
And that Trump, being such a germaphobe, decided to have the desk removed to be cleaned.
And that was the official story that came out.
But then shortly thereafter, that was the story the press ran with, of course.
But then shortly thereafter, as Alex Jones pointed out, the White House confirmed that...
This desk had a listening device in it that we are not sure the source of yet.
And, you know, I guess this story has so many different levels to it.
It's kind of like meta.
It's like, oh my gosh, we could parse through each part of this.
Like, first you have the spying, then you have the fake news story about it, then you have, you know, what the implications of it are between what information was disclosed.
Did Trump know it was there?
And did, you know, did they leak information intentionally and then pretend that they were shocked when they found it?
There are so many questions, right?
That would have been a boss move, honestly, is just to know it's there and keep pumping out disinformation.
That would have been a great strategic move, honestly.
I wouldn't put it past him.
I would put it past him.
I would say there's a high likelihood that they found it, left it, and then just everything they did in the Oval Office from there on was like intentionally sowing.
You know, disinformation with the enemy.
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But we have other stories, believe it or not.
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We have a full day of news still to cover ahead.
And one of the stories that I really want to get into here with you, Mark, while you're here with us, because I think it's interesting, is this story that seems to continue to...
How do I put this?
It continues to float in the ether of the news realm and never be fully resolved.
And that story, of course, is the Jeffrey Epstein files, which have been promised to be released, and again, we're facing a delay.
Published just this morning to Newsweek, an article by Marnie Rose McFowl talks about a delay to Jeffrey Epstein files being released raising questions.
So, on Thursday, February 20th, Attorney General Pam Bondi indicated that files pertaining to the late sex offender Jeffrey Epstein are set to be released.
The fact that they are yet to be released is raising serious questions from Republican politicians.
Again, this is a story that never seems to end, but here is the original interview from Fox News where she talks about the fact that the files are on her desk.
Listen to this.
Oh, let me make sure we get the volume on, right?
You guys want to hear it, too.
Let's listen.
Human trafficking is a multi-billion dollar business in this country.
And Jeffrey Epstein is dead.
And Ghirlane Maxwell is in prison for 20 years where she belongs.
And if people in that report are still fighting to keep their names private, Sean, they have no legal basis to do so unless they're a child, a victim.
Or a cooperating defendant by some chance against some potential case against Gurlaine Maxwell.
And I think Mark Garagos, as a great criminal defense attorney, will back that up as well.
So she's an advocate for getting this report out there.
She went as far as to say that the report had reached her desk and that it's clearing whatever sort of legal hurdles it still must clear.
Again, as she points out, people petitioning to keep their names from being released with this list.
And if you imagine the sort of clientele that may be on this list, then you can basically understand how...
Powerful some of these lawyers may in fact be and how much pull and weight and sway they have in the legal system going as far as they need to delay this as much as is humanly possible.
But one of the things I picked up there that I thought was interesting is her reference to cooperating witnesses in ongoing investigations.
That would be interesting.
She did make direct reference to Ghislaine, whatever you want to call her, Maxwell.
Who ties all of this back to much more nefarious things like the Mossad and other intelligence agencies, MI6, her father, Robert Maxwell, being a top spy for those agencies.
So the whole thing here really does reek, but I guess Mark just...
Briefly give us your thought on whether you think that...
I mean, what do you think of the whole Epstein-List thing?
Well, I guess what I'll start with is, since you've got conspiracy theories to justify your conspiracy theories...
Never ends.
Do you think Jeffrey Epstein's actually deceased?
So that's a good question.
I've been...
I don't know.
Personally, but I will say this, that my co-host, who obviously everybody listening is probably familiar with, Nick Ngo, who joins us on Thursdays and Fridays, he...
Is of the strong belief that Jeffrey Epstein is still alive and perhaps is being detained at a facility such as Guantanamo Bay and that he has been a cooperating witness against a lot of these very nefarious factions for some time now.
I, of course, usually come to the same conclusion that...
It's plausible, but I don't know if it's true.
And I'm not sure we will ever know if something like that were true, because it'd be equivalent to somebody entering a witness protection program.
You're never really going to know if that happens, because that stuff is held in classified secret documents and is only really tracked in so many ways.
So, do I think he's dead?
That's what the news told us.
And Mark, one thing I know is that the news would never lie to me.
Well, no, no.
They said he committed suicide.
Yeah.
I mean, they would never lie to me.
Well, I mean, that's one thing.
Suicide is something else.
And at the end of the day, was that the lie?
That was the method?
Or was it the fact that he's actually deceased at all?
Then that poses another question for me, which is...
If these operations were so successful, did they actually cease or did they just change the front man?
Oh, I think 100,000 million percent they just changed the front man.
I mean, if you look back, one of the interesting ways to sort of understand this whole, the way that this has evolved is if you go back and do any deep research into the connections between the CIA and Hugh Hefner, that...
Is almost identical to the sort of thing that Epstein was running.
And Epstein, not only was he doing the blackmail stuff, but he was also acting as a sort of an in-between, a vassal for laundering money.
And if people follow this stuff, it's funny because when he suicided himself or whatever...
The story basically went that his sort of fortune was seized and just disappeared and went out of existence, or it wasn't as much as people thought it was, etc.
But a lot of people speculated that because of the timing of it all, at the exact time that Jeffrey Epstein went down and became this very public enemy number one figure on every news station, There was a person who came into existence that became very wealthy through crypto.
His name was Sam Bakeman-Fried.
And he was the guy who was in charge of that crypto Ponzi scheme that was funneling money to Democrat politicians and millions and millions of dollars.
And he became a billionaire almost at the exact same time that Jeffrey Epstein's money just seems to have vanished.
And he was operating out of the Caribbean in the Bahamas.
So people speculated that when Jeffrey Epstein became too hot, they had to disperse the funds that he was in control of.
So they basically used an elaborate system of transferring it through crypto.
Is that like buying artwork?
Yes, exactly.
Thousands of dollars?
A hundred percent.
Okay.
Because artwork's the same kind of thing, except now they can do it with crypto to, I would imagine, a larger degree, even less traceable.
But Sam Bakerman Freeman comes on, starts that Ponzi scheme.
I forget the name of his company, but it was the big one that fell that was a crypto scam.
And so people are speculating about that, which...
If that were the case, then that would lead me to believe that Epstein either...
I would imagine he is dead, if I had to guess.
Because I would imagine that, as you said, they don't care about these people.
They want just an unknown face that's disposable.
And when Epstein got too hot, he was disposable.
And he was disposed of.
And then they just, like you said, they just replace him with the next guy up.
Maybe that was Sam Bankman-Fried, who now he himself is currently sitting in federal prison.
But, like, and then he's probably been replaced by the next guy.
And they don't care.
That's the point.
They just keep going from one person to the next to the next.
And the ones who are successful, who last a long time, like Hugh Hefner would be a good example, they're rewarded for their ability to hide things in plain sight.
A lot of people talk about parties at the Playboy Mansion, and I've seen all kinds of documentaries and reports on...
The kind of, like, the way, in almost an identical manner, Hugh Hefner had his mansion wired up, like Jeffrey Epstein had his mansions wired up with cameras in every room.
And, you know, the same thing, you know, celebrities come and they're introduced to women and then they do things that can be used against them.
And so it's, that to me is what...
This is something that is not even new.
It's something that's been happening for a long time.
Even before all those people were even probably born, the practice of blackmail had been widely used.
This has been going on for centuries.
I mean, we can go back to Potiphar's wife.
There you go.
Yeah.
We can go back to biblical and it's not even...
Yeah, I mean, you're talking how many thousands of years ago.
I mean, sexual blackmail has been a thing for...
I won't say ever, but darn near ever.
Yeah.
So there you go.
So that's my point, is that you're 100% right in saying that they just, or asking, did they just move to the next guy?
Well, yeah, of course.
I want to see the new guy's list more than I do the Epstein list.
Yeah, who is the new guy?
That's the question.
You've got to figure out who the new guy is first.
I mean, that was like five years ago, right?
The Epstein thing.
I mean, legit.
Was it five, six years ago?
What?
When the Epstein, I don't know, the whole list and the story broke.
Yeah, it was about six years ago when he was arrested for the time that stuck.
It was like 2019. It was in, I want to say July 6, 2019 was the date.
Right, so a lot of those people aren't even, I don't want to say...
I mean, it'd be great to see it, don't get me wrong.
I'm really, really interested in who the new guy is and who's on that list.
I mean, is there arguably some of the same people on there?
Sure, because those kinds of things don't go away.
But, you know, at the end of the day, I kind of scratch my head and go, who's the new guy?
Who is it?
Who is it?
Come on.
I mean, somebody's got to know who it is.
Well, I guess the new guy was Diddy for a while.
No, he was just a different branch of the same tree, I think, honestly.
Well, that was a different...
I think that was similar in a way...
Well, obviously similar in a lot of ways, but it was sort of in a different theater, like if you're Hollywood celebrity versus your political corporate.
Well, and my question is, is Diddy the...
The new guy after...
Who was the movie producer or the TV producer?
Oh, you know, people were mad because apparently he did the same thing to Jennifer Aniston.
Oh, what is the guy's name?
I don't know.
He's one of the big brother movie producers that...
Anyways, so he had ruled Hollywood for...
Harvey Weinstein?
There you go.
For how many decades and then all of a sudden he goes away and then Diddy's the new guy, right?
So I think they're just finding different face people.
A lot of people are connecting the Diddy thing back to the head of Tower Records, Clive Davis.
So they're saying that he was sort of, Diddy was Clive Davis' errand boy to a degree.
And that's a name that we'll see, I'm sure, pop up more and more as we go into the future because certain individuals who have been following this story more closely than I have and who I follow them to get updates, they've insinuated that it's really tied back to the Tower Records, Clive Davis, and some other record executives there who really are.
I don't think you'll ever hear these conversations on fake news national mainstream TV because, I mean, these people are fully engaged in the cover-up.
Or involved in the list.
Yeah, they're either on the list or they're helping to cover up the list because it doesn't serve their financial interests to expose it.
Perhaps they're not on the list.
Perhaps they hold information, blackmail that they're using against others.
Maybe there's a market for it and these higher ups buy it and sell it and trade it with one another so they can control different things.
Like trading cards?
Yeah, basically.
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You know, we're talking about some interesting stuff here.
I really like the way this conversation is going because, you know...
We were just talking about it over the break.
You know, we left everybody on air saying that, you know, this sort of blackmail may be traded amongst these higher-level, you know, corporate executives and higher-level, perhaps, politicians, etc., as a sort of like a trading card.
But then we also said it's—I said and made the reference, because it connects directly to your analogy, that it's kind of even probably more like— You know, sports organization trading players.
You know, it's like, oh, you want so-and-so?
You want Angelina Jolie?
Okay, well, I'll take Brad Pitt.
And then you exchange blackmail.
And then they basically become your, you know, your person to control.
And perhaps those people aren't involved in it.
I'm not saying they are.
I'm just saying that, you know, that perhaps is how this whole thing system works.
And what we would say...
Here on the show, more commonly, it would be like, for instance, the Rothschilds trading presidents.
Like, oh, here's the tape of Bill Clinton on Epstein Island.
If you need anything from the United States now, they're at your beck and call, Lord Rothschild.
So that's how, perhaps, these sort of blackmail operations work.
And then, of course, there are levels.
Like, everybody who's followed this closely sort of acknowledges the fact that Jeffrey Epstein was a low-level player.
I mean, even though he was high up in regard of how the level of people he was able to get to his island to do sort of these things with, Overall, in the global scheme of things, when you have families that are generationally wealthy beyond our imagination,
like the Rothschilds and the money that was obtained for the Soros Empire or the money that existed with the House of Saud in Saudi Arabia, those...
Or we're talking hundreds of billions, if not trillions of dollars of wealth.
And I know you go, Craig, there's no one out there who has a trillion dollars of wealth.
That's an impossible number.
That doesn't exist.
Well, believe it or not, these generational families don't publicly report how much they actually have, honestly.
So I think they have far more than they even...
Than we could ever imagine.
And what's been publicly reported is just the stuff they show us, right?
They have vaults full of gold and all kinds of things that would help them stay wealthy.
You know, as we say here on KHNC often, gold is truly wealth insurance.
And it's the golden rule, right?
He who has the gold makes the rules.
That's, I think, what we're sort of contending with right now and fighting against to a degree.
Would you agree with that sort of description, Mark?
Yeah, absolutely.
I think that, again, that goes back to the previous conversation about keeping...
That's who I think is attempting to keep us divided.
Because, you know, if you've ever seen the Nature Channel where ants working together take down larger predators, Or you can make the ants fight each other, and then you don't have to worry about it.
So I think that's exactly what we're talking about.
Yeah, somebody called in and gave a great analogy with that, the red and black ant analogy, where basically the analogy goes, if you take...
A container, right?
Like a small container.
And you fill it with red ants and you fill it with black ants.
What you'll see is that the red ants and the black ants kind of separately go about their business and don't really bother each other at all.
They actually work within their groups and societies and they stay functional and peaceful.
But if you take that container and then you shake it up and they all get mixed together, well, of course, then they start fighting each other.
And basically what the analogy was saying was that what these people that we're describing do is they continually come in and shake the container and then get us all mixed in and fighting with one another.
Now, I don't know how well that analogy translates, but I think it is sort of the way that they...
The idea that they shake us up and get us to fight each other is what I took away from that and I think is essentially what you're saying.
Yeah, I think the generational families, the, you know, what was it, the Bilderbergs, the quote-unquote secret society families that have existed forever and a day, I think that they...
I have a tendency to go, well, I'm going to buy this new station or new stations or conglomerate and have a specific narrative pumped out into society so that it creates dissension so I can stay invisible.
Absolutely.
Think about Russian oligarchs, right?
I mean, who are they?
We don't really know who a lot of these ultra-wealthy are because they don't...
I mean, isn't it better to stay in the shadows if you're that person?
Otherwise, you become a target.
Yeah, a lot of them.
I mean, so this goes back to something I've said for a long time here on the show, but I'll just reiterate it for the purpose of just context.
You know, a lot of people think we live in this modern era where we've transcended the monarchies, right?
There's no kings and queens anymore.
We live in parliamentary democracies or constitutional republics, etc., etc.
But the truth of the matter is that actually...
Those monarchies never really went anywhere.
Their wealth didn't just disappear.
Yes, they may have stepped down from their position as reigning monarch ruling over a country, but all that wealth they amassed over centuries is still within their family and their cousins and their nephews and their kids.
Took and held all that, and those are the people who, you know, we don't know their names as well.
Those are the people who, you know, fund these companies and become ultra-wealthy, and then, you know, they're in charge of industry.
And those are the people who, obviously, I'm not saying they're all bad, because I wouldn't say all people are bad in any generalization that way.
But I would say that there's a large portion of those people who...
We're taught that they are better than the rest of us.
They believe in the bloodline.
They believe in, you know, they have the 13 Merovingian bloodlines.
These people believe this stuff.
They believe that they're descendants of, some of these people think they're descendants of, you know, these pagan gods.
Some of these people think they have all kinds of crazy things that they believe.
And they believe it.
Hard enough that they're willing to do whatever's necessary to defend and protect themselves from losing that.
And we've gone through that many times throughout the show.
But, Mark, it looks like we have a caller.
What do you say?
Do you want to bring him on?
Sure.
All right, caller.
You're on the air with me and Mark talking about the Epstein list, but what do you want to talk about today?
Hey, guys.
Hey, Mark.
It's great having you on the show.
It's a great show.
And anyway, welcome to the show.
Thank you.
Appreciate it.
Yeah, buddy.
Hey, that Ann analogy, the Ann should be asking who's shaking the jar.
And basically, they're turning us against each other to distract us from turning against them.
Absolutely.
And that's, yeah, that's the real...
The reason for that analogy.
And never forget that Pam Bondi, she's the one who went through with the charges against the Trayvon Martin Zimmerman case.
That's my understanding.
And so we have to keep the pressure on these people.
And just as an aside, with our debt and everything, we're all concerned about that.
I was trying to grasp how big a trillion is.
And in seconds, just a million ticks down in 1.5 days.
So a million, one million with an M, is 11.5 days.
A trillion with a T takes over 31,000 years to tick off.
So, I mean, it is astonishing how our national debt is just allowed to get out of control this much.
But anyway...
Have a great show, guys, and welcome to the show, Mark.
Thank you.
Thanks, brother.
We're going to take a break.
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We're coming back and we'll talk about what he said.
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I'm your host, Craig James, joined by our friend and special guest today, Mark.
And real quick, you know, Mark, just to address, I think that was our friend Blake from Arizona who called in there.
If I'm not mistaken, if I got that wrong, I apologize.
He sounds similar to him.
Basically, yeah, I agree.
I think all the points he made were very salient and true.
Is there any other observation you have on that?
Well, I think the biggest thing is when we talk about these generational wealth families, a lot of people discount it and go, oh, that can't possibly be true.
Who would believe in a thousand-year wealth getting passed from generation to generation?
Here in northern Colorado, we do kind of live that to a very, very large degree.
We just forget that we live that.
And what I mean by that is there's lots of farmers in the area that, you know, they're second, third, fourth generation farmers that, you know, their grandparents settled in the area, started farming.
Paid off the farm.
They take over the farming operation.
And they have a huge advantage over those people trying to buy land and start today.
So, you know, we live it in our own community.
We just don't see it to the same magnitude.
So when people say, hey, that can't be a thing, I challenge you to look around at your neighbors who, you know, they're...
Grandkids or great-grandkids have taken over the farm, and you see the financial benefit that they have over their competition.
It's massive, and that's been going on for generations in industry since the Industrial Revolution.
Yeah, I think that's a good point.
So speaking of farmers, and this is kind of, I guess, a good transition for it.
Let's get to that deal we were going to talk about now.
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Anything else I'm missing?
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You know it's our final segment.
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We're, of course, joined by Mark Duggan.
To close it out real quick, our friend Henry texted in concerning all these lists where we are apparently in the movie A Few Good Men.
We can't handle the truth.
I love it.
Thanks, Henry.
I appreciate that.
Also, somebody from the 307 says, I'm sorry, but there is zero reason not to release Epstein List, Diddy List, or the list of politicians who paid for sexual inappropriateness.
They all need to stop saying it is for investigation or to protect people.
I agree.
100%.
So, real quick, final thought from you in this short segment.
Mark, as we sign off, and then I'm going to give some scripture to the audience.
I just enjoyed the opportunity to be here and hang out and chat with you guys a little bit.
So I had a great time today.
Yeah, we had a great time, too.
And we'll definitely have you back on the show in the future.
So that's already in the works.
We're going to try to find times.
And I'm sure the people loved it.
So we'll make sure we get you back on.
Now, we always do our God's Graces Greater segment at the end of every show.
Today is no different.
I want to leave you guys with some hope and encouragement.
And this is about the times we are facing now.
Because a lot of the stuff we covered in today's show are pretty dark topics.
They seem hopeless, right?
When you look at...
This kind of evil exists in the world.
But remember this as an encouragement to...
What to look for in people and what to avoid.
This is from 2 Timothy 3, verse 1 through 5.
It says, But know this, difficult times will come in the last days, for people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, boastful, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, ungrateful, unholy, unloving, irreconcilable, slanders, without self-control, brutal, without love for without self-control, brutal, without love for what is good, traitors, reckless, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, holding to the form of godliness but denying its power.
these people.
And that's the word for today.
I want you to remember that these are the traits you need to look out for in people who surround you, in not just the world at large that we see through this scope of social media and the news and television and movies, but in your day-to-day life.
If you are surrounded with people who act in this way, avoid these people.
You can preach to them and give them the gospel.
That's a powerful tool that may help them change their ways, but when you see a group of mockers, do not join with them.
Rather, you must rebuke them and invoke the name of the Lord and tell them about the greatness of God.
And if they are unwilling to listen, as Jesus instructed his disciples, we are instructed to kick the dust off our sandals and move on because there are many who need to hear the gospel.
So that's my final word.
To all of you out there today, I hope that's an encouragement and also at the same time a bit of a warning as to what to look out for as we venture out into this.
Crazy world.
So, again, I want to thank Mark for joining us.
It was really a pleasure to have him on.
I want to thank the callers, texters.
I want to thank everybody listening.
Remember, if you haven't accepted Jesus as your Lord and Savior, now is your opportunity.
I encourage you to open your heart, say a prayer, call upon His name, accept Him as your Lord and Savior, and watch Him intervene in your life in ways that you never thought were possible.
And I know it because I've seen it myself in my own life and in many others.
But, that's where we leave it.
Mark, thank you.
Listeners?
My pleasure.
Oh, yeah.
Listeners, thank you.
We'll be back tomorrow, God willing, same time, same place.
Until then, I'm your host, Craig James.
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