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We're going to try to get through as much as we possibly can from some interesting stories about the waste, fraud, and abuse in our government that are still unfolding before our very eyes to Maxie Waters making some interesting comments about...
Something you should hear.
I'm not even going to allude to what it is.
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Remember Maxine Waters, of course, one of the lowest IQ members of Congress.
Her and Jasmine Crockett may have the joint title there for low IQ, but she came out and said something very interesting.
Let's just put it that way.
Suspicious would be a more accurate way to describe it.
We'll talk about it and a whole lot more.
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Our good friend Nick Ngo, who is the Benghazi whistleblower, U.S. Air Force veteran and military intelligence insider.
Welcome to the show, Nick.
How are you doing?
Thanks, Craig.
I'm doing wonderful on this wonderful freezing day.
I know.
Is it cold out where you're at?
I don't even know.
I just saw a flurry.
Oh, yeah.
I think so.
You guys are probably going to get blasted out there, too.
So, regardless, we have a lot to cover.
We're going to get into it all here today.
I want to start with President Trump.
So, in an announcement that was...
Well...
What's new, right?
He's giving press conferences now from the Oval Office with a podium, which is, like, great.
I love how he did that.
So in response to everybody giving him a hard time, the media made this big deal about Trump sitting while Elon Musk was standing behind him.
And in this, like, weird play toward some perceived insecurity of Trump, the media said that Elon Musk is the real president because President Trump is seated at the Resolute desk in the Oval Office while Elon Musk is towering over him,
you know, explaining what Doge is doing, which, I mean, I'm pretty sure every president has had sort of press interactions exactly similar to the one Trump has, where this president is seated.
And the other people in the room are standing around him, which actually, if you understand power dynamics, Nick, which we know very well, you and I, that is, the person who's seated is the most powerful, correct?
And this time, yeah, that would be so, especially because it's the most powerful seat you can sit in, you know?
Right.
So they're ridiculous.
That doesn't apply to this situation.
You can't look at it that way because there's an exception to the rule.
This is it.
Well, I agree 100%.
But in typical Trump fashion, in a response to it, he wheels a podium into the Oval Office.
So now he's standing behind a podium in the Oval Office, which, look, you've got to love Trump, right?
At this point, you know he's doing it as a troll.
He is the master troll.
I think he's like troll level 10,000 right now with it.
So from the Oval Office, speaking behind a podium, Trump says this about the list of 200 expenditures that they reviewed and found only three that were reasonable.
Basically explaining that there are widespread kickbacks throughout the federal government.
I mean, this makes sense.
One thing that's being sort of illuminated through all of this is the personal net worths of these congressmen and women.
I mean, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, Mitch McConnell, they all went into office with salaries between, what, $120,000 to $200,000?
I don't know.
And now they all stand with net worths in the, what, seven to eight figure range?
Some in nine figures, right?
Nine figures would be $100 million, right?
Is that correct?
So, eight to nine figure range is what we're looking at with these people.
And you just go, well, that's strange.
How do you make that much money?
Well, here's Trump explaining a part of how that happens.
Oh, yeah.
Tremendous fraud.
There's tremendous fraud.
And it's hard to believe that you can have that kind of fraud.
You're talking about like...
Are you talking about what?
Wait, wait, wait.
Which are you talking?
You're talking about with regard to all of the investigations that are going on about this stupidity.
What we're going to do is tomorrow I'm having a news conference.
I'm going to read to you some of the names that hundreds of millions and even billions of dollars have been given to.
And if you tell me that we should be giving money to those things, those entities, I think you'll probably have to leave as a reporter because you're not very talented.
When you look at the kind of money, billions and billions of dollars being thrown away illegally, and there's no chance.
I mean, I say it in front of our...
Our Attorney General, there's no chance that there's not kickbacks or something going on.
When you give millions and millions of dollars to somebody that stands to look at something for 15 minutes and walks away with millions of dollars, that money's coming back in some form.
And that's only one form of corruption.
The biggest thing is what they do to our country.
They're taking massive amounts of money and spending it on items.
I went through a list of 200...
Expenditures that were made.
And I found three that looked like they were reasonable.
Okay, three.
And we'll be talking about that tomorrow.
We have a lot of stuff.
And I want to commend Elon because he's done a fantastic...
He doesn't need this.
You know, he's abused by you people every day.
He's found more things than anybody could find.
I think he's got the credibility to do it.
I know he does.
And it's his group of people.
You know, they started off with 12. I call them 12 geniuses.
They started off with 12, and they went to 20 and 25, and now they're up to almost 100 people adjoining to help them because there's a massive fraud that's taking place.
Well, there you have it, folks, a massive fraud taking place.
When we come back, I'll play an interesting clip from Maxine Waters that ties right into that fraud.
Stay tuned, folks.
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And we're talking about this waste, fraud, abuse, corruption, the kickbacks that Donald Trump just clearly outlined in a speech we heard him give, or at least a clip from a speech where, or an interaction, a press conference, I should say, a soundbite, where it is interesting and you listen to it and you go, okay, well, yeah.
I think there might be some corruption there.
Now, one of my favorite things, though, is that recently, as a matter of fact, yesterday, on Capitol Hill during more of these ongoing, you know, Senate or, excuse me, House Congressional Committee sessions where they discuss the doge and the threat it pronounces to the public, you know, cutting away this funding is so dangerous.
Maxine Waters, who is obviously not the brightest bulb in the bunch there in Congress, said something very interesting and quite telling.
I'll let this clip speak for itself, but I'll preface this by saying, Maxine Waters is the same woman who has been effectively calling for violence against Trump, Elon Musk, and any conservative who supports those people.
For many years now, and without any real pushback, unfortunately.
So it should...
I want to let you know that it finally makes sense why she hates Trump and Musk and American conservatives, fiscally limited...
Conservatives, limited government conservatives.
It makes sense why she hates us so much.
Listen to this short clip of her yesterday in the halls of Congress.
So this is on the congressional record.
The people of this country are being violated because all of our privacy is being taken up by Elon Musk and Trump, and we don't know what all they have on us.
We don't know what all they have on us.
Okay, that's a strange thing to say, for a sitting caucus woman to say.
First off, she says, our privacy is being violated.
Now, I'm no expert, Nick, by any means, on any of this, but as I understand it, when you are a public servant, your right to privacy is sort of restricted in the...
If you are doing government business, in effect, that becomes a part of the public record.
That becomes a part of the public right to know is what you're doing.
So she first tells us that she is terrified of the fact that she doesn't have privacy anymore.
But then that second part, Nick, that's where I really start asking some serious questions where she says, we don't know what they have on us.
Nick, can you explain maybe any way that this could be interpreted other than the obvious?
Low-IQ individual is all I've got to say.
She's a low-IQ individual is all I've got to say, Craig.
She's a low-IQ. Remember, there was this one time...
Where she actually said, you know, that Obama, we've got this new system where we got dirt on everybody.
I've actually got it.
I'll send it over to you.
You know, I got it on Rumble.
But we should play that just to show how stupid she really is.
I mean, it's a special kind of stupid.
If we want to play clips of how stupid Maxine Waters is, Nick...
We could literally spend the whole show and not cover a fraction of it.
We could literally just play every time she speaks, and it would be a great example.
It's like that Jasmine Crockett.
Everything that comes out of her mouth is just the most incoherent dribble I've ever heard anybody put together, like the thoughts of a...
We talked about it before.
We talked about why they have such good communication with the left because they all speak retardanese, right?
Which is a form in dialect I've coined of retardation where they speak retardanese with one another.
It's very classy language.
Oh my gosh.
Can you imagine two Maxine Waters talking to each other?
Oh, Jasmine Crockett and Maxine Waters going back and forth?
Yeah.
I think...
I don't want to say it because I'll get in trouble, but...
Yeah.
I was going to say something probably meaner than I should have.
But anyway, send me that clip and I'll play it.
I'm interested...
I should be there.
Yeah, okay.
Let's see.
Alright, let's see if we can pull this clip up, interestingly enough.
Let's listen.
What I've made clear to our viewers and listeners is that, look, the inauguration represented the beginning of his second term.
Yes.
But it also represented the countdown of the end of his presidency.
That's right.
And the reality is, like anything else, you better get what you can while he's there because, look, come 2016, that's it.
Well, you know, I don't know, and I think some people are missing something here.
The president has put in place an organization That contains the kind of database that no one has ever seen before in life.
That's going to be very, very powerful.
And whoever...
In terms of the organizing for America that he's now shifting to become a 501c4.
That's right.
That's right.
And that database will have information about...
Everything on every individual in ways that it's never been done before.
And whoever runs for president on the Democratic ticket have to deal with that.
They're going to have to go down with that database and the concerns of those people because they can't get around it.
And he's been very smart.
I mean, it's very powerful what he's leaving in place.
And I think that's what any Democratic candidate is going to have to deal with.
Make to to our.
All right.
So.
Yeah.
So she's been saying this, I guess, for a long time, that they have dirt on everyone in Congress.
So I guess that's not a big story, because that, when was this clip?
2013?
My gosh.
Wow.
Yeah, yeah.
They were using hammer and scorecard to, and she said voters, I think she used the word voters, to get information about voters, and then he was like, you know, come on, Maxine, this is about voters, right?
And she's like, oh yeah, yeah, voters.
But it's very clear that what she's saying is that whenever a new candidate comes up, that they go through all of their former social media or any dirt that they have on that person in general, whether it's their personality, whatever it is, their, you know, their...
Their sexual preferences, whatever it is.
So they can use all those things to find the most corruptible person to run for Congress and whatever, but also anybody that runs, they're going to already have dirt, some sort of negative thing that they can use against them right away.
And I think that obviously it sounds like they're collecting just general scraping data from the Internet, but I'm sure it's much more than that considering Hammer and Scorecard existed and Brennan managed Hammer and Scorecard.
Yeah, the implications are obvious as to what that kind of information could be used for and what it may be.
And I think Trump's really hitting at the heart of it with the whole Doge thing and the corruption and the kickbacks.
You know, using the word kickback in Washington, D.C. is a dangerous thing, I guess, unless you're the President of the United States and you're accusing everyone else of doing it.
But even then, it's probably even more dangerous.
So I'm looking at this from the perspective that everything that has been uncovered up to this point...
It's just the tip of the iceberg, right, Nick?
Oh my gosh, yeah, Craig.
They're trying to make them feel the most pain possible.
USAID, that's a low-hanging fruit.
As you can imagine, this is going to escalate until it's finally, you know, they're talking about Sam Bankman Freed and how they traced every penny that they kept raising the amount of money they're sending over there.
They're going to see that all that money, you know, because when they did it out of the Pentagon, that Sam Bankman Freed was laundering the money back to the politicians.
And this one, that one right there, I think they were really lazy with.
And I think because they got caught so easily, they thought that they had an anonymity, but they didn't.
And now that's going to eventually come back full circle.
I think that'll come up in a couple, maybe even a year from now.
Yeah, refresh our audience, either you can or I can, on Sam Bankman-Fried and what he was doing.
Because, I mean, I'll let you, I mean, I can explain, but you can as well.
Yeah, well, I only got a general overview.
Basically, he's got, basically this guy, Sam Bankman-Fried, had family members that were involved with the government, right?
His parents, and they were rich or whatever.
So, they basically helped create a Bitcoin to launder money back to the politicians through Ukraine.
It was a crypto exchange.
It was, I forget the name of it.
It wasn't a Bitcoin, it was a crypto exchange, but yeah.
Yeah, you're right.
I'll explain briefly.
It was money laundering through the Bahamas was where he was headquartered out of.
And what they were doing was through deregulation of the crypto, through the unregulation of the crypto market, taking massive amounts of money in and then funneling those back into political coffers.
And it looked like basically...
In the same way that the Clinton Foundation was a way for foreign governments to funnel money into politicians' pockets to pay for, you know, influence, it looks like that same thing was happening with that unregulated crypto exchange that Sam Baikman-Fried was in charge of, where he was, in fact, taking profits that were made through that company and their endeavors and then funneling it into...
The coffers of the Democrat Party and all the different campaigns and other things, which essentially amounted to a Ponzi scheme, which he was obviously found out for when it went bankrupt, when too many calls came in at once.
And now he's serving a sentence in federal prison, as I understand it, him and all of his accomplices.
And nobody's really gotten to the bottom of that.
So what you're insinuating, Nick, is that when they really get to the bottom of that...
They're going to find something similar to what we saw in, of course, as I said before, the Clinton Foundation, where the money that was coming in, it was basically a way to launder political contributions so that they wouldn't have to be recorded so that then they could be funneled into the Democratic Party to pay for influence operations, right?
Absolutely.
Yeah, you nailed it, Craig.
It's perfect.
Yeah.
Sorry.
I sometimes...
I just have to say it, and I have to interrupt you, Nick.
I know, I know.
Everybody's so upset right now that I interrupted Nick.
I'm sorry.
I know you knew that one like the back of your hand.
I should just let you have it, baby.
I'm sorry.
You've got to pass me the rock, man.
We've got to learn how to throw some assists up here, man.
We need team ball going, man.
As they would say when I was playing basketball back in the day.
Two sports I play, basketball and football.
Love them both.
I prefer basketball, though, to be honest with you.
Although football is great.
Nothing like knocking somebody on their backside and just getting that out.
But basketball is more of a finesse game, more of a team sport.
You've got to dish the rock, as they say.
And that's what we're doing here.
We're dishing the rock.
I don't know where I'm going with that.
I'm tossing it to you in the post.
I'm tossing it to you in the post, Craig.
Yeah, I know.
It's funny, though, because we're both really tall and we're like the same height, so I don't know who would be.
But I'm a little stockier than you, so I think I'd be the center.
You'd be the power forward.
All right.
So, getting out of our basketball analogy there, I want to play this clip.
Lee Zeldin makes this announcement yesterday.
And it's quite damning, to be quite frank, against the Democrats and what they were doing.
Now, what all this stems from, and I'll wait to play the clip because we're about to hit a break in a minute, and it's a three-minute clip, so I want to make sure we have time to play it all.
But I'll set this up.
So, and this all came from, believe it or not, an investigation conducted by James O'Keefe, of all people.
You know, we love him.
He's great.
I absolutely think James O'Keefe is a great guy.
At least for the work he does, but my gosh, you know, there's funny stuff there we could always joke about, but he did this investigation with an undercover reporter of his who went and interviewed an individual who worked, I forget where exactly they worked in the Biden administration,
but they were sort of one of the officials working in a lower part of the administration, but they were essentially describing how The Biden administration on its way out of office was distributing massive amounts of funding to these NGOs in what Lee Zeldin describes as throwing bricks of
gold off the Titanic, meaning that as Trump was coming in, they were offloading huge amounts of money and funding into these NGOs.
That would sustain them through the next four years, ideally, to combat Trump from outside of government using money from government that had already been allocated.
And when we come back, I'm going to play this clip of Lee Zeldin explaining how that investigation led him to do an inquiry internally, which turned up...
$20 billion in taxpayer funds that were laundered right out of the government during the end days of Biden.
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Welcome back to Just Form Talk Radio.
I am your host, Craig James, with Nick Ngo.
And like I said before the break, Nick, I want to play this clip.
It's of Lee Zeldin, who is the EPA administrator now in the Trump administration.
And he has uncovered something through an investigation that was put forward by James O'Keefe and his O'Keefe Media Group, which...
Caught on hidden camera tape a low-level Biden administration staffer describing how in the final days of the Biden administration, they intentionally were offloading as much money as they possibly could from...
The federal government into these NGOs that could then be used subsequently upon Trump's arrival to office to counteract any effect Trump would have and basically work as an end around to circumvent any sort of regulation or controls that Trump would try to implement as President of the United States.
So effectively...
What they were doing was laundering money into external financial institutions managed by agents of the Biden administration to finance left-wing NGOs who would then go and, for the next four years presumably, attack Donald Trump.
Now little did they know...
That Trump would be very much aware of this scheme and that his whole push, which is what we've seen up to this point through Doge and everything else, has been to go after these NGOs and this corrupt system where even when...
This is how the bureaucracy has survived so long, honestly, if you think about it, because even if there's a president in who they can't get along with, quote-unquote, They literally know that they can outlast that president because eventually somebody friendly to them will be back in office and the money train will turn back on.
Or, regardless of who was in office before Trump, I guess, the money train never stopped.
It just kept chugging along.
So here Lee Zeldin is describing what he uncovered at the request of President Trump.
Listen to this.
Hi, this is EPA Administrator Lee Zeldin.
One of my very top priorities at EPA is to be an excellent steward of your hard-earned tax dollars.
There will be zero tolerance of any waste and abuse.
An extremely disturbing video circulated two months ago featuring a Biden-EPA political appointee talking about how they were tossing gold bars off the Titanic.
Rushing to get billions of your tax dollars out the door before inauguration day.
The gold bars were tax dollars.
And tossing them off the Titanic meant the Biden administration knew they were wasting it.
Following this revelation, during my meetings with members of Congress, I made a very important commitment to them and to the American people.
Which I reiterated at my confirmation hearing that if confirmed, I would immediately get a full accounting.
Fortunately, my awesome team at EPA has found the gold bars.
Shockingly, roughly 20 billion of your tax dollars were parked at an outside financial institution by the Biden EPA. This scheme was the first of its kind in EPA history.
And it was purposefully designed to obligate all of the money in a rush job with reduced oversight.
Even further, this pot of $20 billion was awarded to just eight entities that were then responsible for doling out your money to NGOs and others at their discretion with far less transparency.
Just under $7 billion was sent to one entity called the Climate United Fund.
I'm sure you and I now have some of the same questions.
How do these organizations decide how to allocate funding?
How much money have they given out so far and to whom?
Are there any former Biden EPA staffers who are now working at these entities?
Let me make one thing abundantly clear.
At this point, there is zero reason to suspect any wrongdoing by the bank.
Here's my position as EPA Administrator.
The financial agent agreement with the bank needs to be instantly terminated, and the bank must immediately return all of the gold bars that the Biden administration tossed off the Titanic.
EPA needs to reassume responsibility for all of these funds.
We will review every penny that has gone out the door.
I will be referring this matter to the Inspector General's office, and will work with the Justice Department as well.
The days of irresponsibly shoveling boatloads of cash to far-left activist groups in the name of environmental justice and climate equity are over.
The American public deserves a more transparent and accountable government than what transpired these past four years.
We take our obligations under the law as seriously as it gets.
I've directed my team to find your gold bars and they found them.
Now we will get them back inside of control of government as we pursue next steps.
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Well, Nick, what do you think of that?
I mean, what do you think of those apples?
It sounds like everyone's going to be prosecuted, Craig, and they're going to investigate it.
That's something that I was going to talk about when we got back from the break.
It seems like they're slowly introducing, for example, USAID. That one is a low-hanging fruit, but the problem is there's no oversight, there's no audits, there's nobody really...
You know, telling them no.
And so because no one ever denied a payment, you know, everybody's guilty.
So when you look at that, everybody's like, you can't really go after anybody because, you know, someone created that a long time ago and they're just part of the system and they're not necessarily guilty of anything.
Okay, fair enough.
But he's doing that to make people start feeling uncomfortable and be like, this is criminal, but we can't do anything about it.
So whenever the criminal stuff comes up, Yeah, I think that's a reasonable way of looking at it.
And I would imagine that when he talks about $20 billion being offloaded into this financial institution that is being held for these NGOs, it means the money hasn't been distributed yet, which means that the plan was to, and again, I think this is where Trump, Trump is moving so fast that they don't have time to react to anything that's happening.
That's why everything you've seen the left do in response to Doge and the audit of USAID and all this other stuff has seemed so disheveled and so sort of haphazard.
It's because it was all put together.
It was all pushed on them so fast that they didn't even know what to do.
$20 billion, I'm sure, was meant to sustain ongoing efforts to counter Trump over four years, right?
So if everything they've planned for has this long time frame attached to it, then what Trump is doing right now is basically taking a metaphorical wrecking ball to everything that they've put together, and now they're scrambling.
Every single day trying to catch up.
Right, Nick?
Nick, you're muted, so...
Go ahead.
That sounds like an assessment there.
It looked $20 billion in the EPA, Craig.
That's a lot of money.
And for the EPA, that to me stood out.
And I want everybody to remember that the military can operate legally inside of the United States around posse comitatus if they wanted to using task forces.
So, for example, in the EPA, if they have one person with the resting power in the EPA and they're a part of a military task force or a task force, as long as there's one civilian, Interesting.
Interesting.
I'm very curious to learn more about that.
I'm sure we will as time goes on, but stay tuned.
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I am your host, Craig James, with Nick Ngo.
And, Nick, we're going through some interesting stories here.
We were just covering Lee Zeldin and what he basically uncovered about the corruption, waste, fraud, and abuse, and really the plan to hinder Trump, which, one part of it at least, where the money was being held and how it was going to be used.
That's an interesting story to look at.
And there are other stories to get into here today that I want to cover.
First off, you know, we talk about what the government is getting itself involved with.
And from time to time, things pop out and stand out more than others.
One of the things that was uncovered recently that people have been paying mind or noticing very obviously is this Reuters story, where it looks like the Department of Defense where it looks like the Department of Defense paid Reuters, the radical left news organization, $9 million to study, quote, large-scale social deception.
Now, Trump points this out in one of his truth posts.
Others have picked up on this story, and it seems to be one of those stories where you're like, well, that's an odd thing to put into your, you know, to have a line item in the budget that says, we are paying a news organization to quote-unquote study large-scale social deception.
Now, I'm no...
Tactical genius when it comes to psychological warfare, although I have talked to people, and Nick, you're very close acquaintances with individuals, including one of the individuals who literally wrote the army manual for psychological operations.
So we have a good idea of how these things work.
So I guess the question is not why, because I think we all know why the Department of Defense would be paying $9 million to Reuters to do large-scale studies on social deception.
But when Trump calls for that money to be given back...
And the immediate reaction from the press is like, we're not going to be a free press if we're not getting grants from the government to study large-scale social deception.
Wait, what?
Can you make this make sense, Nick, in a way that's not bad, or is it just as bad as it looks?
No, because they've got every right to deceive everybody.
They're a different country, Craig.
Because they're the UK, they don't count.
They can use GCHQ to try and overthrow our government.
Is that Reuters?
Where are they based out of?
I thought Reuters was a US organization.
Oh, shoot, I thought it was British.
Heck, I thought there were two of you.
Look, there's another one too.
BBC's getting money, man.
So we're giving all this money to these news organizations to lie to us.
And it's no wonder they don't have a foot to stand on, because there's no ethical way to say it's okay.
No, actually, you're right.
You're 100% right.
Reuters is an English, British, and it was founded in...
It looks like the original...
Paul Julius Reuter was from Berlin, and then the agency sort of...
Moved to London in 1851 and became a newswire agency.
So you're right.
You're 100% right.
I'm wrong.
I think it's AP that's American, but Reuters, there you go.
So we're giving $9 million to Reuters, a London-based news agency, to study large-scale deception.
That's totally normal, right?
And when they say somebody, large-scale deception, Nick, we all know what they're doing.
Yeah, large-scale psyops on the American people and the, what are they called, the Five Eyes at Large, too, because none of them, they all are basically getting their information from the same people, which is, they are getting paid by our U.S. government.
You know, it's pretty bad.
AP is the most egregious.
Associated Press is 100% propaganda.
In my opinion, there's no redeemable value for that organization, and they should just cut funding for that.
Well, and this goes to what I was speaking on yesterday.
I was literally looking up the church committee hearings, right?
I was talking about them and talking about how the intelligence community basically infiltrated the media.
And we found all this out in the 1970s when they told us, in no uncertain terms, that the intelligence agencies were basically infiltrating news organizations to spread stories from abroad that were then coming back to American shores and being used against the American people, right?
So this is all not new, but it's like everybody just forgot and then moved on with their lives, right?
Yeah, especially Bill Barr because he's the person that was ordered by Bush Sr. to destroy all the records from that investigation.
I bet he feels really good about it because he destroyed the records personally.
I have the order right here, and it's a CIA-declassified document.
It says here, William P. Barr.
Is he William P. Barr, I'm assuming?
I think that's him.
Then we got a letter from Senators Mansfield and Scott, and it looks like there is a memo over to, from Bush Sr. to destroy the records.
And that's dated from, what day is it?
20 May 1976. And basically, Bill Barr was ordered to destroy all those records, and he knows more than anybody what was in there and what they tried to hide.
Yeah, yeah.
Couldn't be more clear.
Clear as day what is happening here and what Trump's basically pointing out in his true social post.
At some point, this all has to end, and I really hope it does, but I don't think this practice will ever end.
I think it's just sort of adapting to new, a digital age, a different platform, different mediums.
It's all just sort of moving over.
I think what's happening, Nick, and maybe this is sort of a less optimistic assessment, but it's that...
The mainstream media has failed so disastrously in their job of controlling the narrative that they're shifting and adapting over to the digital medium right now.
And what we're seeing is that shift take place publicly for everyone to see.
And I'll explain that a little bit more when we come back.
And get your thoughts on it.
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Nick, we're talking about this Interesting story.
Trump basically calling out Reuters and the millions, $9 million that they found being spent on large-scale social deception campaigns, which begs so many questions, right?
But one theory I'm working on, kind of as we're talking here, and you tell me what you think of this theory, Nick, is that, okay, so let's take it from the perspective that At some point, the deception is necessary to a degree.
For instance, like I will talk about and we will talk about in the second hour, we're going to talk about, you know, this commission on federal secrets, right, that's being headed up by Annapoleon Luna and others.
And we're going to talk about how, like, the truth's really not going to come out, because if the truth came out in its entirety, it would have too many ramifications.
National security, domestically and international otherwise.
So they're going to give us some limited hangout version of, you know, newly formulated cover stories that explain away all the inconsistencies, and then basically it's like a new way of covering their backside, but giving us some more truth, right?
Limited hangout, that's what it does.
Partial truth with a lot of lies.
What if, Nick, Roy...
Absolutely, Craig.
Well, I just want to get this thought out real quick.
What if, Nick, we're seeing the changing of the guard right now.
CNN, the major networks have lost all credibility with the public.
So they're not even...
You can almost take what they say and know the opposite is true.
Same is with Reuters and AP and these other fake news.
And they've become so far partisan, so far politically active, so left, that they've enjoined themselves with the people who want to destroy America to the furthest extent you can imagine.
And what we're seeing right now is the airing of all of this publicly to completely destroy their credibility so that then it can be transferred.
And meanwhile, we're watching the implementation of new soft power tactics through Online mediums like podcasters and other sort of, you know, news, new news organizations that are coming up through these social media platforms, which are allowed to be there.
So we're basically watching in real time the changing of the guard from the old fourth column traditional media to this new media, new fourth column of...
Information that is vital to national security to a degree because you have to be able to control the flow of information.
Is that assessment accurate, you think, Nick?
I think you're right.
That they're pivoting.
This is great that they're pivoting towards podcasters getting White House press passes and stuff like that.
And I also think that there is going to be a limited hangout because, you know, I think ultimately...
It always will be, as you said, because they want to protect certain things.
And I think that telling the truth is the most revolutionary thing we can do right now.
It's because we've been lied to.
Everything's a lie.
Now it's time to tell the truth about everything, that they can.
Wait, you want the truth?
You want the truth?
You want the truth, Nick?
Oh, yeah.
You can't handle the truth, Nick!
Pretty much.
That's what's happening.
I was hoping you'd set me up for that line.
I was really hoping it.
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Hey, Craig.
Hey, Nick.
Great show.
I don't remember the year, but I think it was Obama that passed a law that said it was okay to propagandize the American people, and I don't know when it was legalized to put FBI assets or CIA assets in the media, but...
I just wondered if that was something that President Trump could, by executive order, put a hole to, you know, the propaganda or the embedding of, you know, our three-letter agencies inside the media.
So this, I know, is Nick's forte because he knows this particular law like the back of his hand.
I will say this.
I don't think Trump's inclined to stop it because he's just going to, just like he did with the U.S. Digital Service, and he turned that into Doge, which he's now weaponized to go against the deep state.
I think he'll just continue to, well, for better or worse, he will use it and turn it against those who put it together.
But Nick, do you want to explain that law and how it was crafted by Obama?
Yes, he signed the NDAA bill, I think it was in 2011 or 2012, I can't remember which one, but basically it repealed the Smith-Mund Act, which basically was put in place at the end of the war to make sure that we were not allowed to be propagandized anymore.
Because there's no more reason to.
Anyway, once that was repealed, the entire USAID started throwing money at that to throw the influence around.
And the CIA basically just used the USAID as a way to launder money and then influence around with other countries, too, with reporters.
But allegedly, you know, after the...
The church commission, church committee, then, you know, they said they were not going to do that anymore, which was to, quote-unquote, pay journalists to be on their take and then to make up stories.
But now it's voluntary.
They all get an email every morning, and they can voluntarily participate if they want to in the PSYOP or not.
And at this point, it's going to be revealed.
Towards the end, if he keeps it the way it is, he could really make those people sweat, and then they're going to act crazy, the reporters, and they're going to get more louder and more vocal and be more ridiculous, and then all of a sudden he's going to drop it on them that they are just agents of the CIA. And to be clear, I think you misspoke there briefly, Nick, and I think the Smith-Munt Act of 2012 was implemented through Obama, not repealed?
And that...
My bad.
Right.
But it's okay.
I just want to correct that.
But anyway, does that satisfy...
Does that answer your question, caller?
Yeah, absolutely.
Thank you.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah.
Look up the Smith-Montag.
Do some research on it for yourself.
Don't just take what we say at face value.
But I would say that, you know, the way Nick described it is fairly a good assessment.
One last thing, Craig.
Go ahead.
I must say, don't forget that when Trump changed the law so that if continuity of government is triggered, then they can take over all of the media outlets.
And it's against the law to go against them.
They get like two years in jail if they even resist at all.
So if he wants at any given time, he can grab the reins from the media and use it just the same way they did, but for another purpose, perhaps as a positive psyop to disseminate information about these criminals as it all comes out.
I imagine it's going to be organized and they're going to have access to all the news and on every channel.
They're going to show this information so that nobody misses it and everybody remembers it.
Yeah, and to be clear, as I understand it, it's kind of complicated.
It's just kind of weird how it happened.
So the Smith-Monterization Act of 2012 repealed the ban on propaganda.
And then to repeal that act would be to reinstate the ban on propaganda, as I understand it.
But please fact-check me on that.
That's why I deferred to you, Nick, because I'm not an expert on that.
But I think that's why people get confused when they hear repeal and that.
But, yeah, I think, Nick, you hit the nail on the head.
So thank you, caller.
We appreciate it.
We're going to keep going here.
We'll just pick right back up where we left off.
Okay, so Nick, I want to keep talking about Representative Anna Paulina Luna and what this is, but briefly I'll kind of further explain my theory on what's happening here with everything, because I think it is important and it does tie in particularly to this next topic, which is the U.S. House Oversight Committee's Commission on Federal Secrets, right?
And the idea is, as I explained previously as we were going to break, simply put, MSNBC, NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, Fox, you name it, They've all failed at their job, which was to essentially act as both a limited hangout and gatekeeper to keep people from finding the truth about things that our government is involved in.
Now, for better or worse, again, that is the state of affairs as we stand here.
And all of those media organizations have skewed so far out of balance to the left that they've become, in and of themselves, a threat to our republic.
And that includes Reuters and AP, who are sort of hand-in-glove working with these major news outlets, who are supposed to be, as Fox would say, fair and balanced.
But really, they're supposed to be objective sources of information.
They're not supposed to be partisan by nature, which is what they have become.
Now, where we're at with that is that not only have they skewed so far left and gone so far out of balance that they're completely corrupted, But they're also basically working themselves out of relevancy, out of legitimacy.
Because if everything they say is perceived through a political lens, then they have no credibility with the public.
Therefore, they have no sway with the public.
Therefore, their institutional value to the government as a source of control...
Is severely limited, if not completely destroyed.
So now, what have we seen?
We've seen the emergence of podcasters and independent news journalists who just go on these platforms like Tucker Carlson and others, right?
Dan Bongino, blah, blah, blah.
You go down the list of all these people who have shows and big followings.
So, there's a complete and legitimate effort taking place to start infiltrating those realms.
And this is why they control them so heavily with censorship and everything else, because they are going to become or are in the process of replacing the mainstream media, which was the controlled information operation of the government previously.
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So to just continue my thought, to finish my thought, Nick, I just want to finish the thought I was going with, which is that the collapse of the fake news sort of mainstream media has now led to this sort of push for the implementation of the new media.
And basically replacing the old media with the new media, which are the podcasters and the quote-unquote independent journalists who, you know, have a more obviously objective stance on information, obviously are not as skewed far left or right in the way that they cover and look at facts.
And by that...
It is a national security priority for our government to now infiltrate those vectors of information allocation and create new systems of control and propaganda through those, which is why...
People, and I'm not, I mean, I'm not picking these people out.
If this is your favorite podcaster, don't get offended, but people like Sean Ryan or Tucker Carlson or Pierce Morgan or, you know, you go down the list, Glenn Beck and so on and so on and so forth.
These people get elevated and they're allowed to remain.
Or Ben Shapiro, Daily Wire, Jeremy Boring, blah, blah, blah.
All these people are Not only are they replacing the fake news, they're being co-opted by governments and by the government that wants to control the narrative and information.
And this is why nobody has done anything to this day about the censorship on YouTube.
This is why, and it's frustrating for somebody like me and you, Nick, because, you know, and people, a lot of our friends.
Who are truth-tellers, who want to get to the bottom of these rabbit holes and get the information out to the public, but then we get still relegated to the sideline because they don't want the truth that we have to be spread.
They want controlled versions, limited hangouts, which brings us right back to Anna Pauli and Luna and this Commission on Federal Secrets and what it truly is seeking to do.
But, Nick, overall, does that thesis...
Do you think it holds water?
Do you think I'm on to something there?
Absolutely, Craig.
I think you're 100% spot on right there.
There are plenty of governments that are trying to influence all the time our media and perceptions and everything.
But at this point, there's no going back.
You can't put the toothpaste back in the tube.
There are too many of us digital soldiers here.
This is a counterinsurgency, and we did it better than they could have ever done it.
I agree.
I mean, I think it's true.
For me, I've sort of, I guess, accepted my fate to a degree that I should, I guess.
I don't sit around and, what is it, I was about to say the word, is languish a word?
Or am I crazy?
Anyway, I don't...
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah, I don't toil about these things and brood upon it and think, oh man, woe is me, because I understand the necessity.
Like, I was describing with this Commission on Federal Secrets what it will end up being, and this is something we've discussed yesterday in the show.
I discussed it with you yesterday, Nick, and in the pre-meeting a little bit, but I'll talk about it again, is that, you know, the fact that...
It should not be lost on anyone.
The person leading up this committee, this commission, and the oversight committee, is like a former stripper turned congresswoman.
I mean...
You know, I'm not saying that people don't change.
You know, obviously we have many stories in the Bible of people living one way and then living another way, and that is a real thing.
So I'm not trying to disparage her in that sense.
But the fact that these are the people they choose, it's not like we're bringing the best of the cream of the crop to run this thing.
So they're using people who may or may not be lower IQ, gullible, easily influenced, or pressured or manipulated.
And they're going to give us what I described as a limited hangout, which is where we get partial truth to create, to remodulate these stories, these official stories, so that they account for all the inconsistencies that have been pointed out for the last several years or decades,
and at the same time still provide a layer of protection for the real people and players involved because the real people and players involved are, if the truth about those people was disclosed, if the truth about those people was disclosed, it would be in itself a threat to national security both domestically and abroad, not just with the American people and the reaction that would come from us when our government told
not just with the American people and the reaction that would come from us when our government told us certain truths that we probably couldn't handle, but the further implication of that abroad with alliances and global standing and economic but the further implication of that abroad with alliances and global standing and economic standing and so Could you imagine the liability?
Imagine this.
Imagine just one scenario.
If the government says, yes, we did 9-11.
We flew planes into our own towers, killed 3,000 people.
That would be bad domestically, right?
People would be, as I've said before, pitchforks and torches going to every government building, federal government building across the country demanding answers and accountability.
That would be terrible.
But then imagine when our enemies...
That we fought a war with over the pretense of that, found that out, and then what are they going to say?
You think they're just going to be like, oh yeah, no big deal.
You just came in, invaded our country, overthrew our government, killed millions of our citizens, all based on a false pretense, false flag that you yourself did.
You think they're just going to, I mean, forget the lawsuits that would come from that.
Think about the real-world security threats that would come from that, like kinetic warfare, retaliation attacks, etc., etc., etc.
It could be used in recruiting more enemies of our country, terrorists, etc., etc., etc.
You think that Anna Paulina Luna, the former stripper, is going to come out and just say, yeah, we did 9-11, it was the Bushes, oh yeah, we got them now, boys!
Like, that would not only be the most reckless thing that she could do, It would probably be the most dangerous and damning thing you could do to our country right now.
Nick, am I crazy for having this thought, or is it reasonable?
Timing is everything.
There's different subjects that they're investigating, and I think that the timing is going to be really important, and I think the 9-11 investigation is going to be the last one.
And in between there, they're going to do the Kennedy assassination.
It's going to be a little bit of a limited hangout.
And then President Trump is going to probably talk about how his assassination attempts seem to have a lot of connections to the CIA or whatever.
They're going to tell him, no, no, no, it was totally random.
They were lone nuts.
And then he's going to say, well, I think I got information that's counter to that, and then he's going to publish it.
And after he publishes that information, then putting light on the media lying again, and they know it.
And then after that, he'll probably roll out the truth about JFK, 100% truth, and 9-11.
That's what I would do strategically if I was him.
I disagree.
I think the truth about 9-11 can never, ever be admitted by our government.
It may be allowed to come out.
It already has, to a degree, come out because people talk about it openly.
And I told you this in the pre-meeting, and I believe this.
The way you'd be able to tell that we're still in a free society, to the degree that we are free, at least, is if we're allowed to say these things publicly without repercussions from...
You know, outside forces.
So you and I, Nick, can get on here and explain in excruciating detail, step by step, how, when, why, the motive, etc.
9-11 occurred or JFK was assassinated.
And we can do that and not be accosted or harassed or detained by our federal government.
But the moment you can't do that is when you know you've lost the threat and basically it's gone pretty dark pretty quick.
However, these, like, I can understand, for instance, with the JFK thing, at least if you admit the full truth on that, the implications are more domestic than they are international.
Meaning, you're, you're, the implication of the JFK thing is like, we did it to ourselves, right?
So, we have to deal, we're cleaning up our own house, right?
The implication of 9-11, Nick, is not only a domestic issue of we murdered 3,000 of our own citizens, if that is what happened, but then the implication of we invaded sovereign nations based on that.
We killed millions of people based on that.
We started a number of wars internationally based on that.
That has much broader implications.
And much more severe implications than a domestic issue like what happened with Kennedy.
So I can see the Kennedy thing in a world.
I can see it being fully disclosed.
And I know, Nick, you're not going to like this answer because you're an advocate for the full disclosure on 9-11.
But I would be willing to make a large wager that...
The full truth will never, ever, ever be disclosed by the federal government about 9-11 because it would be like, it would be, metaphorically, it would be suicidal, if that makes sense.
That's a good point.
No, Craig, if it was just like USAID, I think it would be like that.
If we can name exact names and dates of the people and who was involved, the exact information, and then so that way we're not – it wouldn't be a general anger towards the government.
It would be like, oh, these people did this.
Oh, now we have their names and we know who did it.
Because at that point, there are people going to investigate them and then it will branch out from there, all of their operatives and such.
But they won't be able to walk down the street safely if they put out the names, Craig, because the Bush family was directly involved with the JFK assassination, along with many other groups, to include the Israelis, the Italian Mafia.
It was a big operation, and there were several moving pieces.
The thing that gets me the most is the Bay of Pigs invasion was caused on a false pretext that the Cubans already had missile silos ready to launch ICBMs out of them once they received them from Russia, which was not true.
Guess who provided that false information, Craig?
Prescott Bush.
Prescott Bush provided false intel.
You know, he was the shadow CIA runner.
That's why they call it the family.
He really ran the CIA, and he's the one who reported that they already had the missile silos ready, which was a lie.
And then he launched a Bay of Pigs invasion from his son's oil rig, the Zapata oil rig, right there.
The one thing we don't know, Nick, is whether it was a lie or not, in the sense that, imagine, what if they thought that was true, right, at the time?
Like, think about that, too.
Like, I'm not saying that as a defense of their actions, because I think what they did was wrong and really disastrously bad for our country, but just imagine if they were acting, let's just presume, for argument's sake, in good faith based on information they thought was true, which later turned out to be false, and then they made a bunch of things, and then all they could do is cover it up because it would make them look completely incompetent otherwise, right?
That's another thing that the government does a great job at is, Completely, forgive my language, effing stuff up and then just lying about it because the alternative would be admitting how incompetent they are.
Or just slap a classification on it and then it's gone for 30 years, no problem.
It's classified, man.
You can't hear about that one.
It's like the pilot might have been drinking that day and may have thought that, you know, that...
Cabana or that banana boat was actually a nuclear missile, so we had bad intelligence.
Yeah.
But I don't know.
I'm just thinking out loud here.
Because, you know, you have to be able to look at it from the perspective of, you know, you can't impugn the worst.
You have to at least say, well, there's plausibly a world where that scenario plays out a little differently, but the same outcome, right?
It doesn't change that it's bad.
It doesn't change that it's horrible.
It doesn't change that it was a mess-up of the third degree, the fifth degree.
But, I mean, sometimes I do think these people were just that incompetent.
Because to be that evil, you'd have to be smart, and they would have done a better job covering their tracks, you'd imagine.
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I'm your host, Craig James with Nick Ngo.
And I want to correct the record, make a correction.
I said impugn when I meant to say infer previously.
So scratch that, reverse it.
That's what I meant to say.
Now we have other stories I want to get to here with you, Nick.
And this is one I think you may have some strong opinions on.
Given, you know, what we've talked about over the last, you know, several years, me and you.
We've talked about a lot of things, Nick, and, you know, I know you have strong opinions about certain things.
Pretty much everything, right?
You're a very opinionated guy, and I appreciate that about you.
But this story, I think, stood out for obvious reasons, given the implications, not just abroad, but here at home.
And it's this story that talks about...
Google making a new declaration, which previously Google's position on AI has been that it would not be used for certain endeavors.
And this was, in a sense, similar to Google's original mission statement, which was, don't be evil, right?
Which they subsequently dropped a few years later.
And that certainly should have begged some serious, serious questions when the largest company in the world decided that their mission was no longer not to be evil.
I think we all saw what the result of that was.
Now, in a similar instance recently, Google has now dropped its pledge over use of artificial intelligence for weapons and surveillance.
Now, what is this referring to?
Well, this is particularly referring to a deal that's been made to the tune of $1.2 billion, with a B. With the Israeli government under the name Project Nimbus.
Now, for those of you who don't know, Project Nimbus is an agreement that was announced back in 2021. And it was a contract between Google and Amazon with the Israeli government that would, quote, provide the government, the defense establishment, and others with an all-encompassing cloud solution.
Project Nimbus has invariably, over time, been a part of this war that is ongoing in the Middle East between Israel and their surrounding neighbors, Hamas particularly, but the territories which they're occupying and moving into and claiming ownership over.
This is something that's happening in real time, and people are pointing out That, as of recently, just last week, it seems, Google has now changed its policy internally to allow things like your personal data,
like your YouTube usage, so what videos you watch online and other interactions you have through the Google and its subsidiary platforms, To be used to train the AI to do things like targeted assassination, among others.
Now, I bring this up, not necessarily even because of the implication it has with Israel, which obviously you can be the judge of that for yourself, and I'm sure, Nick, you'll have something to say about that.
But I bring this up because this is an American-based company, one of the largest in the world, which is now being used for...
Artificial intelligence to develop weapons and surveillance that can be used for targeted assassinations.
Here's a quote from Julian Assange explaining this.
He says, So,
this is the brave new world we are entering, folks, and AI is going to play a very strong and prominent role in it, and this is exactly what one of my biggest concerns with AI has been for several years now, ever since it started becoming more and more popular and ubiquitous to a degree.
So, Nick, General thoughts on everything covered there.
What stood out to you?
Oh, boy.
With the AI stuff, anybody can make AI at their home.
They can use a Raspberry Pi and use it and train it properly to do what they want, which is what they're trying to stop right now.
Everybody's going to get limited on AI. That's the laws they're trying to pass so that only the government can do AI to use it on you.
So I want to bring up a couple of things.
So with Amazon and Google being a part of that project, 1.2 bill, Nimbus project.
Nimbus is a type of cloud associated with storms, by the way.
So you've got the Amazon and Google working to make cloud services for them to scrape and then use for AI. Amazon already got that contract a while back.
And I think they ended up dropping it because basically they found out that if you put all of our classified information into the cloud, it's going to be accessible to everyone eventually.
If they don't crack it today, they're going to crack it eventually.
They'll have access to everything.
Anyway, it was stupid.
So they dropped that program because they got quantum computers that can crack most codes pretty quickly.
They are quantum-resistant, novel.
Things that exist now.
But essentially, they used the same technology.
It's called IIA technology for the Arab Spring.
One of the original designers, and it was part of the Jedi program, it was called Jedi before they killed it, like regular Jedi, like in the movie.
So before they killed that program, there was a group of people that came in.
That formed a few smaller companies that were gobbled up by other companies, but one of the originals I used neuro-linguistic programming.
And what their whole idea is, Craig, or was to start before this all went crazy, is to keep, okay, let's say someone's radical.
Then you, instead of making them more radical and be like, oh, yeah, we got them, boys.
And then you get their network.
No, it's the opposite is what they were doing.
They were de-radicalizing people that are targeted.
So if AI, you know what I'm saying?
If they use it the right way, AI could, in other countries, it can't be.
It could be applied to America, because if they did that, that would be a violation of our rights.
This is a wartime thing.
If they were able to use that for other countries, it could prevent radicalization.
Or if someone was like, for example, if they were going to do an attack or whatever, it can put them in a really good place, make them look at puppy videos and stuff like that.
And you know what I'm saying?
It can de-escalate situations just as easily as it can radicalize someone and then brainwash them into...
No, that makes perfect sense.
Go on.
And the original creators of this were infuriated.
They got pushed out right away because they turned it into an offensive weapon instead of a defensive weapon.
And even to this day, that person is now an advisor to the Pentagon and they're going to keep this from going haywire.
When you talk about the Arab Spring, I mean, this obviously goes right back to Benghazi, right?
Yeah, it's all interrelated.
Well, talk about Benghazi, what happened that day.
I mean, that was basically, sounds like something similar to this program was being used.
Yeah, absolutely.
You know, with that, I do believe that the Egyptian dictator guy, who is the military guy, used some of his assets to help.
Mumbarak, right?
Yeah, he helped a little bit with all of that, but he got assassinated by Hillary Clinton and the gang while he was on the stand, which was actually pretty impressive, I've got to be honest.
The guy was behind bulletproof glass.
He was watched being poisoned during a recess, and then when he got on the stand, he died right there.
Anyway, yes, this is all being used today, but our actual NATO, NATO has been using this same technology against the United States, I repeat.
NATO has been using offensive psychological weapons on the United States, even to this moment.
Yeah, and this is the whole thing with the five eyes, dude.
This is what we've been saying.
So I want to talk about this when we come back, but just think of it this way.
They've been obfuscating federal laws against...
Using these things against the American public by allowing our allies to use them against us and then sharing that information.
This is really bad, guys.
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And I just want to clarify, I'm not sure if it was Mubarak who you were referring to, Nick.
He was the president of Egypt during and was put on trial sort of around the time of the Arab Spring.
I'm not sure if he was assassinated, though, because I don't see any of that in his bio as I'm reading through it.
But he did have weird health stuff where, like, he was hurt.
He was in military hospitals and then in prison and went to the Torah prison in Cairo military hospital and fell a bunch of times.
So there's a lot of weird stuff, and people did report he died in 2012, but then it turned out he wasn't dead.
I don't know.
It's a weird list of things.
Maybe you were just kind of going off temporaneously on that.
Extemporaneously and just sort of misremembered or something, but go ahead.
It was an Egyptian general they were doing probably in 20...
Okay, okay.
So it was different.
So Mubarak was different.
Although I think Mubarak was a military general, but regardless.
Yeah, and he even said, like, ah, I've been poisoned, and then I guess died on the stand or whatever.
He said, I got information on all these powerful people, and I'm going to tell it right when I get back.
I have information only to the arrest of Hillary Clinton.
Oh, really?
Exactly.
Yeah, I hate to joke about that.
She went there two weeks before.
He took power.
Before that, a general took power.
She went there a couple weeks before.
And during Benghazi, the attacks, they also were told to stand down at the Egyptian embassy and put their weapons up the Marines there and give up the embassy to that general.
Seems like a quid pro quo.
To me, Craig, do this mission for me, and then you get to be the leader of Egypt.
Sounds good, Hillary.
Any other stipulations?
Well, I might eat your children, but...
Just kidding.
No, that's...
That's how she is.
That's terrible.
That's horrible.
Horrific, horrific.
But yeah.
So...
Anyway, I wanted to clarify that.
And was it Morsi, maybe?
Or was it Tatwani?
It might have been Morsi that I'm thinking of.
Anyway, it doesn't matter.
It sounds familiar.
Yeah, Mohamed Morsi.
Well, Craig.
Well, I wanted to talk about the Five Eyes thing.
Do you want to talk about the Five Eyes thing, too, and maybe get into all that, too?
Go ahead.
Yes, please do.
Real quickly, I want to say Benghazi leads to Extortion 17. Extortion 17 leads to Bin Laden in Iran.
Bin Laden in Iran leads to 9-11 being an inside job.
Let's go ahead and continue talking about the Five Eyes.
They're not even our friends.
They're our enemies.
Well, it's just a simple fact that what's been happening...
Over the last several years, perhaps decades, has been a situation where all these technologies we just described, right?
These intelligence contracts, the weaponized AI, etc., etc., the targeting of U.S. citizens.
Well, at some point, they realized that conducting these operations against the American public would lead to things like Oversight and disclosure eventually, meaning even if they do an operation today,
market classified, and put it into a filing cabinet, never to be seen again, there's a chance that 10, 20, 30, 40, 50 years down the line or more, somebody will open that file cabinet and say, Look what our government was doing.
A great example of this was the church committee hearings and the information uncovered about MKUltra and all of the things that have continuously been uncovered about our federal government over time.
So at some point, they figured out that if we make an alliance with other English-speaking countries and their intelligence agencies, what we can do is we can outsource These operations to those intelligence agencies,
and then we can do this practice called intelligence sharing, which means our intelligence agency wants to conduct an operation against a U.S. citizen but cannot legally do it.
Now, they can do it clandestinely using the FISA court and getting a warrant, but there's a paper trail that will exist in perpetuity.
So what they figured out is, if we go to one of our allies in this Five Eyes alliance, which is New Zealand, Australia, Canada, Great Britain, and the United States, those are the Five Eyes, the five intelligence agencies who have a collective intelligence alliance, we can go to Australia.
As they did in the Trump during, this is all like Alexander Downer, this is all what happened to Trump during his first term, by the way, with the Papadopoulos and everything else.
We can go to Australia and say, look into these people for us using the tradecraft that we all share, right, in common, and you can...
File your own report in your intelligence agency and it's legal because you're spying on a foreigner and you're not spying on your own citizens and we're not spying on our own citizens and then we can have a meeting.
And what will happen at that meeting is a representative from the Australian Intelligence Agency will walk into a room with a folder.
Inside of that folder will be all of the information collected on that U.S. target of that operation.
Australian intelligence officer will take that folder and lay it down on a table and will walk out of the room.
And into the room will walk a U.S. intelligence operative who will then look down and see an open folder sitting on a desk containing all of the information that they wanted, right, but could not legally do without producing a paper trail that could be connected back to them here.
Now, this practice has been ongoing for years, if not decades, and Trump has been one of the first people to come in and say this has to stop, and this all ties back to Flynn and what they did to him and the FISA court and how we talked about it being abused for years and years and years.
That's what we're referring to.
Now, imagine what they can do sharing This AI weaponization of information in the same exact way, right, Nick?
Did I describe that well?
Absolutely.
I'm glad you brought it up because AI is just as dangerous, in a way, can be just as dangerous as a nuclear bomb.
Why do you think they're sharing AI with all these?
Because then Australia can use their AI against us and then there's no paper trail and it's the same thing.
Yes.
There's no paper trail.
That's something else that I'm glad you bring up.
Australia and New Zealand, they have a system to do the paper trail, but they're not consistent with logging every time the access to the classified systems of who's doing what and so on, which is how John Podesta was able to go out ahead of President Trump to New Zealand, and there's that Falls Church shooting or something, or church...
Christ Church.
Christchurch shooting, and then, you know, that was clearly his operation, and he went out there, and right after that, right before that.
We gotta go, but we'll have to do that tomorrow.
We'll have to pick up where we left off tomorrow, because we got one more segment.
We're coming back.
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Welcome back to Just Form Talk Radio.
I'm your host, Craig James, with Nick Ngo.
And, Nick, let's just take a second here and give you...
So it's our final segment, of course.
We've gotten through the show.
Nick, I wanted to let you keep going, but look, it's actually a great place to pick up tomorrow, talking about Podesta and all these trips.
You know, you talk about, like, Obama going to these foreign countries and all that stuff.
So I'd love to perhaps pick that up tomorrow when we get you back.
God willing, we'll do it all over again.
But, you know, we always finish with our God's grace.
Before we do that, though, I like to let Nick give your final thought for the day.
My final thought for the day, Craig, is that the information train is going to keep rolling.
And, you know, even now a lot of lefties are really dazed and confused or stunned.
You know, help them out.
Send them some information.
Be kind.
And, you know, remember everybody, you know, and your family.
Be good to everybody.
And remember in the end that God wins, Craig.
Amen, brother.
And I want to share a verse for all of you guys out there from 2 Thessalonians chapter 4 talking about...
The comfort that we can share with others.
It's not just the comfort we have in our heart, but it's the message, the gospel that we can give to others.
And I want to share this with you guys.
It says, verse 13-18 says, We do not want you to be uninformed, brothers, concerning those who are asleep, so that you will not grieve like the rest who have no hope.
Since we believe that Jesus died and rose again, in the same way God will bring with him those who have fallen asleep through Jesus.
For we say this to you by a revelation from the Lord.
We who are still alive at the Lord's coming will certainly have no advantage over those who have fallen asleep.
for the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a shout with the archangel's voice and the trumpet of God and the dead in Christ will rise first then we who are still alive will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and so we will always be with the Lord therefore encourage one another with these words
and I share this verse because I want you guys to remember that in the way that Christ is going to redeem us and give us salvation and that we're told it's going to happen there that's how we have to treat every single day with that same hope and inspiration to share unto others.
Because our hope has already, our eternal salvation has already been bought and paid for.
That is what is coming for us, as is described there in 2 Thessalonians.
But the hope may not be with all who are out there.
There are still some who are completely unaware of that hope, who haven't heard of the gospel, who haven't heard of Jesus.
So I encourage you, if you want to share that, because of course we know that verse is talking about those who have already passed away and those who are still living when Christ returns and we're called into heaven through the eternal salvation that we've been promised, I want you to encourage people in giving I want you to encourage people in giving them that hope and inspiration through the gospel.
So that's my mission to all of you.
I want you to share the gospel with somebody today.
Tell them about what hope we have and how it is everlasting and eternal.
And if you haven't accepted Jesus as your Lord and Savior, now is your opportunity.
I want you to open your heart, say a prayer, call upon his name and accept him as your Lord and Savior and watch what great things happen.
And if you have accepted him, go out and share that gospel now, okay?
Be the light in the world that you've been called to be and share it with all who will listen.
Okay, that's where I'm leaving it.
Thank you.
Amen.
Amen, brother.
Thank you, Nick.
And that's where I'm going to leave it.
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