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I'm your host, Craig James.
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It is Friday.
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We're going to do a little bit of Tinfoil Friday.
Actually, probably a lot of it, knowing us and where we end up going with these shows.
Because, as you know, on Fridays and Thursdays, we're joined by our special guest co-hosts.
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Nick, how are you doing?
Hey, good morning, Craig.
I'm doing mighty fine.
It's a nice sunny day, and I'm looking forward to getting into the news today.
Well, we do have a lot to cover, and I really want to get into it.
So many different things going on.
But I guess the big story I want to start with here today is Tucker Carlson did an incredible interview yesterday with Sergey Lavrov.
Okay, this is the foreign minister for the Russian Federation, and they did a sit-down interview because nobody else would.
And it was very interesting.
I listened to pretty much the whole thing last night, and I want to take a minute and walk you guys through some of the things that were discussed there.
But, you know, Nick, to kind of back out before we go into some of these clips from the Tug Carlson-Sergei Lavrov interview, You know, this conflict with Russia is getting to a point where it's going to either become a nuclear war or it's just going to remain this sort of,
I don't know, this localized conflict because it doesn't seem as though we can withstand continuing to escalate there.
What are your thoughts on this conflict and where it's at right now?
It's unreal, Craig.
Russia just wanted to do a special operation to take out the bioweapons labs.
They did that.
And then they said, all right, let's make a deal, make a peace deal so that you guys just don't allow NATO into your country and don't join NATO. That's all.
And then they said, sounds like a great deal, Putin.
You definitely want to do that, NATO. No, we want you to put your people through the meat grinder so that we can capitalize with our defense companies and show off our new gadgets.
The drones that explode when they see soldiers and stuff like that.
That's what they wanted, Craig.
And that's what they're doing.
So NATO just said they're going to take over YouTube, Twitter, and Facebook and stuff like that because of the war that's going on.
So they're going to try and use NATO. They tried to use the WHO. That failed.
And now they're trying to use NATO to control the United States.
NATO has been using IIA technology, which we discussed earlier today, Craig.
On the United States citizens, and it's been allowed, okay, for four years.
So what does that mean?
That means the technology that we use for psyops against adversaries was being used against the United States for their own agenda, okay?
It's really bad.
And now they're trying to overreach again with their power and control of NATO because of Russia.
What it's really about, Craig, is that the United States overthrew Ukraine, cheating in their election and installing with the CIA Zelenskyy.
Everyone knows it.
It's what happened.
And the Ukraine actually did a vote before this happened, and they said they want to remain close with Russia.
Overwhelmingly, it was a huge majority of the people.
It's not even debatable.
Our own State Department knows this.
It's in the cables.
All right?
So what do we do?
We overthrow their country, and then we take all of their stuff, and then posture, put more bioweapons labs in there, and we promised we would never expand NATO. And look at us now.
I mean, NATO might as well just be the UN at this point.
And it was supposed to stop the communist Russians, but the Soviet Union fell like 30 years ago, dude.
So they're still using 30-year-old practices and tactics for war, and the battlefield has evolved.
We've got fifth-generation warfare.
What they're pretending that they're doing when they send these tanks over, they send troops over, that's stupid.
It's stupid.
It's all a show.
It's trash.
They know it.
The smart people know it.
And they're not going to get away with it because, look, what they're doing is posturing.
Like we all know that if we went to war, it would be terrible for everybody, everybody.
But for some reason, these people that don't want to go to jail think in their minds they could start a war, defeat Russia, which would not happen.
And then because they have allies, not to mention they have weapons that could do the same to us.
They're just going towards – and then it all has to do with Russia going all the way back to the Kazarian Empire.
Russia got – and Putin even articulated this in his long interview with Tucker.
So – What's happening right now goes back a thousand years of the conflict that's happening there.
And yeah, there are resources.
They got the rare earth elements.
They've also got a whole bunch of area for farming and food.
That's super important to China.
That's super important to other countries.
And Russia was already doing business with them and using their food and whatever.
And all of a sudden, we come in there, smash everything, take everything, and then say, what are you going to do about it, Russia?
Russia doesn't do anything.
They wait, they wait, they wait, and then they get the bioweapons labs, and they're like, all right, stop there, just chill it out.
You guys need to calm down.
And the way they've handled it is so professional and level-headed.
I'm honestly surprised that Russia hasn't retaliated since all this because they – don't forget the CIA sent over their assassins to kill people, innocent civilians in an opera house.
Our country did that.
Yeah, and it was a horrific attack, if you guys recall, the Opera House attack there in Russia that was supposedly done by some random, I think they were Kazakhs or some other random foreign country that used their nationals, but then it turned out that they seemed to have admitted, at least, that whether that was true or not is up for debate because it was probably a forced admission.
They were probably...
Let's say, encouraged to tell a story.
But either way, there was enough evidence to show that that was probably some sort of statecraft operation that was done on our part to destabilize Russia because we were at war.
And in part, this could have been concocted by people in Ukraine and NATO countries who really wanted to stabilize Russia, who have a great battle going for resources there.
The battle between Um, NATO countries, particularly, you know, Western European countries and Russia for those resources that lie right there in the middle, especially in Ukraine, is very, uh, big because like you said, Nick, those are highly sought after and they're,
They may not be as important today as they will be 50 or 100 or 150 years from now, but of course both countries are looking toward the future and seeing there's going to be scarcity with population growth, etc., and they have to be able to have those things for their population.
So that's why the battle's being fought now.
I mean, I would take it a step further as well with the whole Russia thing.
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Welcome back to Just One Talk Radio.
I'm your host, Craig James, and we're talking about this escalation between Russia, the Ukraine, and it's basically a proxy war through NATO. I thought, you know, the conversation to have between Tucker Carlson and Sergey Lavrov, the foreign minister of the Russian Federation, was very interesting.
It posted yesterday over on his ex-account and all of his other accounts there.
You can go watch the full one-and-a-half-hour interview.
But, you know, Nick, as you were saying, this conflict is about many different things, and there is also an element to it that really serves the interests of I don't understand this fascination with us being so intrinsically tied to the crown
nations who we...
Ostensibly overthrew and now somehow have a great alliance with, even though they seem to be working tirelessly to undermine every freedom that we fought to take in the revolution.
That's where I fall with a lot of this stuff because the driving force behind this...
As we all know, is the crown.
I mean, it is the royal family and the UK at large.
They are the ones pushing this battle between them and Russia because, as I said before, this is all about resources.
This is all about resource scarcity.
And, you know, if you dig deep enough, you find that the European aristocracy of, you know, the...
Last 400, 500 years are the generationally wealthy families that we refer to now as sort of the globalists and the ones who have ended up running the banking cartels and the ones who have, through infiltration and subversive acts and other things, taken over large portions of, you know, the United States.
And, you know, you pointed to the Kazarians, but I think the Kazarians are waging battle with those factions as well, and I think it's like a combination that a lot of people, you know, there are some people out there who always, their first knee-jerk reaction is to say, you know, the They say the Jews, right?
And it's like, but there are bloodlines, there are things that have been going on.
You think that the, you know, the dynasties of, you know, Europe just went away?
You think that those, let's say the, I can't remember the name of the family that ran, I want to say it's the Merovingians, but The people who were running the Vatican, the people who were the nobility of Rome, the people who ended up taking over the Germanic empires, the people who ran the kingdoms of Europe.
You think all of those people just disappeared and then the Jews came and everybody just said, you know, we're going to bow down before them?
No, it's these competing factions on this global chessboard.
And not to mention, you know, you got China, a country that's, what, 2,000 years old or so with the dynasties they've had.
So, and all of the Asian nations, etc.
So I tend to think that this conflict we're seeing, there's like this alliance that we've made out of necessity or convenience with Europe and NATO, and that that is pulling there's like this alliance that we've made out of necessity or convenience with Europe and NATO, and that that is pulling us headfirst into a Absolutely.
And it all has to do with those people.
And a lot of times, since they are the black nobility like you're talking about, Craig, and by the way, like you said, those Kazarian Jews, they actually report to the Vatican and those ancient Roman families like the Borgias and stuff like that.
They are just the front men, really, for the real controllers.
Don't forget, Israel was given the state.
It wasn't.
And who gave the state of Israel to the Kazarians who were there occupying?
It was the crown.
And it just boggles my mind that people go...
Like, you hear these guys like Stu Peters and Nick Fuentes, oh, it's the Jews, it's all the Jews, and I'm like, do you even know history, like, that goes beyond, you know, the time that, 1948?
And, well, so I digress, but go on.
Excuse me one moment.
Yeah, so basically what I'm saying is there are these ancient bloodlines that have been in control for a very long time.
They're deciding to go to war.
And, you know, the empire of Russia.
Think about that.
I mean, you think of how old Russia is, how much they've...
Sustained in loss and devastation and lasted through the fall of the Romanovs to the rise of communism, to overthrowing communism in their own...
I mean, even though people want to say the West is what overthrew communism, there was a lot of internal reorganization after the fall of the USSR, and it's a different nation than it once was.
So there's a lot...
Of nuance and complexity to all of this, right, Nick?
Yeah, yeah, especially because of history with Russia.
You know, of course, they had the Kazarian conflict way back, but whenever the Russian Revolution happened for communism, it was actually run by mainly Jewish people.
This is a fact.
I mean, I think it's something like 70 or 80 percent of the cabinet members of the Soviet Union were actually of Jewish descent.
So that was actually planned by the Kazarians to do that, and it was mainly because one of the Rothschilds, when they were trying to get them on a central bank going way back, Tsar Nicholas said, no, no thanks, and he actually gave material support to the other kingdoms to try and fight off these bankers, and he said, I'm going to get you someday.
I think it was Nathan Amschild, Rothschild, said he would.
And like their family literally had like a blood oath to get the Russians just for that matter.
It had nothing really to do with taking over the territory or anything, just to get them back.
And of course, whenever they killed the Russian families and the banks were holding on to the money and there's no heirs to receive their fortune, guess who gets to keep it?
The Kazarian bankers.
That's who got to keep it.
So it goes – so Russia knows that there's these little cutout of people that you just referred to, the black nobility.
Well, I think – I've used it like air quote Jews because this is like what I think of when I read Revelation, you know.
The Jews who say they are but are not, you know, the synagogue of Satan type stuff, where it's, you know, go back to what Israel is.
It's the name of a person, and then it's a tribe of Judah.
It's not what...
I think because you slap a label on something and call it Israel doesn't make it a Jewish state.
You know what I mean?
And I know people, I'm probably going to get all kinds of flack for saying this stuff, but it seems logical for me to infer that based on, you know, looking at history over a long enough period of time, there were 12 tribes in Israel, as a matter of fact, and there's, so it's like, I digress again.
I don't want to move away too far from...
But I think to understand Ukraine and Russia and NATO and the United States and the crown nations and the competing interests in this conflict, you have to have a pretty good understanding of history in Europe to get it, right?
Oh yeah, it's very, very complex.
And I think Putin explains it the best, but it takes like an hour.
Yeah, he's like, back in 1354, you see.
Yeah, like, okay, I don't have time for that.
But, you know, you have to have some understanding.
You can't just be in this mindset of, oh, it's, you know, one thing versus the other, but go on.
Yeah, us versus them.
Yeah, that's the wrong kind of mindset.
To defeat your enemy, you must love your enemy.
To love your enemy, you must understand your enemy.
And so when people go, rah, rah, rah, let's go to war, and they don't even ask any questions, it's really dumb.
Because almost actually every single war that's ever happened was started by a false flag operation that I'm aware of.
I mean, at least in modern history, yeah.
In modern history, yeah.
So we should expect another false flag.
And like we were talking about, the stuff with them putting the missile systems there and NATO saying they want to send 100,000 people there.
It's like, for what?
Cannon fodder?
What for?
What are you doing?
What are you doing here?
Man, we got Netflix.
We can watch every single movie, every single bit of fact.
That I could ever want to know is right in the palm of my hand.
And then you're sitting there thinking that we're too stupid to understand when you put people there that there's no defense for them.
Come on, guys.
This is clearly just trash.
What they're doing is trash.
They're trying to take over Ukraine.
And they want their resources, but it was way more than that.
At this point, those other people, those nations are in big trouble, including Americans, because they had international crimes that were being committed there from keeping those bioweapons labs that were targeting Russian DNA exclusively.
Well, not only that, I mean, like, some of the reports coming out of what they found in those labs were absolutely insane.
They were studying, I mean, this is one of the things that came out when that whole thing broke.
They were studying, this is according to the reports, you know, take it with a grain of salt, but according to the reports, they were studying how to infect Migratory birds with infectious diseases that were custom, as you said, tailored toward the DNA,
genetic sequences of Russian, you know, sort of Caucasian individuals that they were going to infect the birds that were migratory so they would fly into Russia as a form of biological warfare and infect the population.
So...
I mean, imagine if there was a Chinese bioweapons lab in Mexico where they were studying how to infect geese with viral infectious diseases.
To fly into America and Canada in the event that we ever decide to go to war with them, do you think we would just sit back and say, oh yeah, go ahead, you know, work on those birds, you know, good luck, or will we do something about it?
And I think that's, you know...
Not to be a Russian apologist by any means, because I don't really have any affinity toward Russia whatsoever, beyond the fact that I'm glad it's a Christian nation, predominantly, that, you know, it seems wants peace, but they have their own interests, of course.
So, that's my humble opinion on the whole thing, is, you know, You can only back people into a corner so far.
And it's not like Iraq.
It's not like this is Saddam Hussein we're dealing with here.
It's not like, you know, once we launch a few, you know, drone strikes, he's gonna, you know, get scared and go hide.
Putin's gonna get scared and go, you know, we're gonna find him in a hole behind some hut in the desert.
No.
Putin will be in a, you know, a doomsday bunker Launching Satan nuclear missiles at us with, you know, intercontinental ballistic missiles that have multiple warheads that can, you know, basically shut off civilization.
There's no defense.
Yeah.
So it's a little different.
And I know, you know, the people in the Pentagon have studied this for a long time.
Credit where it's due.
I'm sure they have all very high level understanding of all this mutually assured destruction and whatever.
But It's like smoking next to a powder keg and flicking your ashes in the powder keg.
You're playing with something that if you don't get this right, if you don't thread this needle correctly, it's not just some people there in Ukraine and Russia who end up paying for it.
It's the whole world, right?
Yeah, and it won't even be—if you survive, it's not going to be nice that you survived.
And then on top of that, there's going to be no power.
What they would do is detonate—they would have several different types of warheads.
Ones would have actual nukes, and then ones would have ones that do EMPs.
And what they would do is do that scattered disbursement, and you could take out a much bigger area than just the western seaboard's energy.
You could take out, you know, the whole Midwest and the West Coast if you wanted to with missiles that split up like that if you're using EAP. Dude, you've already said this.
They've said we have nuclear missiles on our subs that we can launch into the coastline underwater that can create tsunamis.
They have, and we have the same thing, surely, but I mean, there's not a lot of coastline on Russia, but I'm sure we have submarines under the North polar caps that can launch into Russia immediately.
But look, there is no way that this, I don't know.
Let's keep talking about when we come back.
I want to dive into it.
I want to play some of these clips because there's another thing that they have.
They now have bombs that can blow up and cause the same amount of devastation as a nuclear bomb without the radiation.
This is the kind of stuff we're dealing with.
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Welcome back to Just Form Talk Radio.
I'm your host, Craig James, and we're joined by Nick.
Now, Nick, we're talking about Russia and Ukraine.
I mean, it seems as though we're getting into the broader story, the larger narrative, and we're also trying to then focus in on certain aspects of this conflict that really do matter, but What are your thoughts on it right now?
Well, Craig, it looks like every time the deep state does something, there's a counter to it.
And as far as I can tell, this is all leading up to what we were talking about where they're going to try and provoke a war.
Russia's not going to do it, so the false flag's coming.
What are they going to do?
What are they going to do?
Well, they didn't get enough people riled up yesterday from a tsunami that came on the Pacific Coast.
That was a distraction.
Maybe it was a distraction on the West Coast that they created so that people wouldn't look into the person that was murdered on the East Coast connected to the West Coast.
I don't know.
But let me tell you this, though.
They're running out of moves.
And when they do crimes now, it's solved within hours.
I mean, look, Nancy Pelosi and all those people connected to that guy that got shot and all that stuff.
Right now it's crumbling.
Everything, the illusion that they've created, and they're running out of place.
So I expect a false flag before January, obviously.
But I don't believe for one second, listeners, that Russia or China or anybody will be trying to start a war right now because all they're waiting for...
It's for President Trump to get back in office and then after that they can make deals because otherwise we don't really make deals.
We kill people and take all their resources.
That's what we do.
So at least as of when Trump's not in office.
So they're really excited for him to be there because now we can have normal business and normal relations.
Yeah, we were opposed to communism and stuff like that, but at least we're not going to be We're doing proxy wars and them trying to take over our government and stuff like that because clearly China has a really good handle on our government and so does Israel and stuff.
We need to get rid of that stuff after this is all sorted.
Alright, yeah.
I think there's a lot of information there that's pretty valid.
Let's see.
We might have a caller.
Caller, you're on there.
What do you got?
Yes, sir.
Good morning.
I was listening to the Ukraine-Russia deal, and I think it's high-tech versus low-tech.
I think if I was Putin, I would be looking to take the water supply.
There's a large, super big river that goes through basically the northwest, if I remember, to the southeast of Ukraine.
Yeah, it's called the Dnieper River.
That's how you pronounce it.
Thank you.
That would be a very strategic river to take because you have the water rights and that land is so fertile down there.
That's why I think that he would be very reluctant to use a conventional nuclear weapon in Ukraine.
He's got plenty of things in his quiver that he could use and still maintain the usefulness of that land.
And once he gets control of that water, he can control Ukraine and also the grains that come out of that portion of Ukraine are, I think, the world's most productive corn and wheat fields in the world.
Great assessment.
Yeah, no, we've had Colonel Douglas McGregor on here, and he's described in detail how fertile that land is.
He gave a great breakdown of it, and I'm pretty sure also right there off the Danipa River is the Zaporoza nuclear power plant, and that's another strategic point that they've looked at taking.
Look, I think you're right, Collar, about the strategic nature of not wanting to use nuclear weapons.
But like I said before, they've already shown a capability with these hypersonics that they use.
I think they're called the...
The Olashirsky or something like that, missile systems, which basically look like meteors dropping out of the sky because they go...
What is it called?
They're not inter...
They're middle range, mid-range intercontinental.
No, no, intercontinental.
They're just mid-range ballistic missiles that they can launch and they go up just the same as you would with an intercontinental.
They go up in the space, basically, and drop down at, you know, hypersonic speed missiles that you can't intercept with any conventional missile defense system.
So if you think about it from that standpoint, I actually had a clip I was going to play from that interview with Sergey Lavrov yesterday where he talks about that as being that they hope that that's a point of deterrence for the West to say, look, we have this technology.
They know we have the same technology, but there is no capability, at least that is known yet, which there might be some technology that exists that we don't know about that maybe they're not ready to use because they don't want to give it away that we have it, but that can stop that sort of attack.
And they've also made it clear, I've heard reports that have said...
They have missile technology now that has this sort of...
It's a nuclear capacity without radiation, meaning they have a bomb or bombs that, when detonated, have the same...
Capacity of destruction as a nuclear weapon without radiation.
And if that's true, then there is no reason why they wouldn't use that in certain areas.
But if you know how the battle's been going so far, as of now, they seem to have been trying to not do a lot of fighting in the agricultural areas because of how valuable that terrain really is.
But thank you, Kaur.
Do you have anything else?
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I had to put him down on Friday.
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Yeah, the day after Thanksgiving, he passed peacefully.
And...
Yeah, but thank you for your concern on that.
It was peaceful, and we did it at the house with me and my family, and he went on.
But yeah, so...
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God bless.
Yeah, so a bit of a right turn there with the dog thing, but yeah, I didn't update anyone on that because I haven't...
I've been trying not to think about it too much lately, but yeah, last Friday we put him down.
Yeah, you know, it was his time.
But back to the topic at hand, I don't want to get sidetracked too much.
Nick, what are your thoughts on all that?
I think that's a really good assessment.
You were right about the explosives.
They have explosives now that uses nanotechnology, basically hyper-oxygenating the explosion.
I don't know how they do it exactly with chemistry and stuff.
So whenever they do have yields and explosives, they will blow up just to have the same yield as a nuclear weapon, like you were talking about, with just conventional weapons.
That does exist.
And I think you're right that they would try not to radiate stuff.
Yeah.
I think that person was right, though.
The water there needs to be controlled and everything like that, but...
Well, you know, as they say, Nick, watch the water.
Watch the water, man.
Watch the water.
We're westernizing it anyway.
We'll put fluoride in it to make sure everybody's smart.
Yeah, we better give us that water.
We're going to fluoridate the hell out of it, and they better be ready for it.
They're going to be dropping IQ points like...
LeBron James drops dimes.
Alright.
We're coming back, guys.
Everybody stay tuned.
We're going to dive into a little...
I want to play this Sergey Lavrov clip, though.
Maybe we'll play a couple.
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I'm your host, Craig James, and I want to play this clip real quick.
By the way, we're joined by Nick Ngo, of Sergey Lavrov talking with Tucker Carlson about the hypersonic missiles and what they mean.
Listen to this.
Rolling people.
I want to go back to what you said a moment ago about the introduction or the unveiling of the hypersonic weapons system that you said was a signal to the West.
What signal exactly?
I think many Americans are not even aware that this happened.
What message were you sending by showing it to the world?
Well, the message is that you, I mean you, the United States, and the allies of the United States who also provide this long-range weapons to the Kyiv regime, they must understand that we would be ready to use any means not to allow them to succeed in what they call strategic defeat of Russia.
They fight for keeping the hegemony over the world on any country, any region, any continent.
We fight for our legitimate security interests.
They say, for example, 1991 borders.
Lindsey Graham, who visited some time ago Zelensky for another talk, he bluntly, in presence of Zelensky, I think, said that Ukraine is very rich with rare earth metals, and we cannot leave this richness to the Russians.
We must take it.
We fight, so they fight for...
The regime which is ready to sell or to give to the West all the natural and human resources.
We fight for the people who have been living on these lands, whose ancestors were actually developing those lands, building cities, building factories for centuries and centuries.
We care about people, not about Natural resources which somebody in the United States would like to keep and to have Ukrainians just as servants sitting on these natural resources.
So the message which we wanted to sell by testing in real action this hypersonic system is that we will We will be ready to do anything to defend our legitimate interests.
We hate even to think about war with the United States, which will take nuclear character.
Our military doctrine says that the most important thing is to avoid a nuclear war.
And it was us, by the way, who initiated in January 2022 The message, the joint statement by the leaders of the five permanent members of the Security Council, saying that we will do anything to avoid confrontation between us, acknowledging and respecting each other's Security interests and concerns.
This was our initiative.
And the security interests of Russia were totally ignored when they rejected, about the same time, when they rejected the proposal to conclude a treaty on security guarantees for Russia,
for Ukraine, in the context of Co-existence and in the context when Ukraine would not be ever a member of NATO or any other military bloc.
This security interests of Russia.
Were presented to the West, to NATO and to the United States, in December 2021. We discussed them several times, including during my meeting with Tony Blinken in Geneva in January, late January 2022. And this was rejected.
So we would certainly like...
To avoid any misunderstanding.
And since the people, some people in Washington and some people in London, in Brussels seem to be not very capable to understand, we will send additional messages if they don't draw necessary conclusions.
Wow.
So, Nick, I know part of that is a bit of Russian propaganda, you know, to say, oh, well, we're just for the people and therefore the resources.
The reality is Russia wants the resources just as much as the Ukrainians want, i.e.
the West want the resources.
It's not that sort of divide.
I mean, I don't think anybody's that naive, right?
But At what point do you take a second and step back and look at what the...
Like, is it worth it, right?
Is it worth it?
Because there's this idea that they keep selling us that if we don't stop Russia there...
Then what's next?
Are they going to take Poland?
Are they going to take Romania?
Are they going to take more of the Baltic states?
Or are they going to keep moving through Eastern Europe until they've re-established the USSR? If they think they can get away with it there, then why won't they just keep going?
And that's one camp, and I understand that to a degree.
But on the other side of that, you could also say, I mean...
What happened in Ukraine was nothing short of a hostile takeover from the U.S. using very dirty tricks that, again, are pushing NATO, you know, up on its border, are pushing NATO, you know, up on its border, which it said has been the red line.
And it'd be one thing if we'd been saying since the 90s, like, hey, by the way, you know, we're going to move NATO up to your front door, so you better be ready.
But it's a whole other thing when the last, you know, several decades we've been literally telling Russia we will not move one inch further.
We won't come closer.
We're not going to do it.
And then we just keep doing it, right?
So there's a different way of looking at it, right?
Oh, yeah, absolutely, Craig.
And behind closed doors are politicians.
Russia has been reaching out to us for 20 years, longer, trying to make good relations with us, good trade relations with us.
And you know what?
Bill Clinton said, yeah, sure we will.
And then he went and talked to the CIA and said, oh, nope, sorry, we're not doing it.
You know, that sort of stuff.
Every time they try to make peace.
When we come back, I want to know, why don't we want to have...
An alliance with Russia.
If we had an alliance between Russia, NATO, and the United States, it would seem like we would be unstoppable in the world.
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I want to take a second and make sure that we let you know what's coming up in the second hour.
We're doing a bit of a continuation from our last Friday segment, or I think it was last Friday or the Friday before where we did a deep dive into the JFK assassination.
We're going to be continuing that with another special guest here.
Judith Ferry Baker coming up in the second hour, so that's going to be very interesting, right, Nick?
I am here, Craig.
I apologize for the delay there.
No, I was saying that we have a guest coming up in the second hour who's going to be very interesting going into more detail on the JFK assassination, right?
Oh, yes.
The audience is going to be very pleased.
Listen, we just had our guest on last week, and he went on to explain basically the Italian mafia's involvement.
His name's Jim Scott, if people want to go back last week and listen from Friday.
So this is, if you put all these together as a series, like the first JFK series, Analysis I did in December of last year, then roll into gyms, and then Judas.
Then it'll complete the entire picture.
Yeah, I may have to split this up and put it in two shows.
But let's take a second here and finish the thought we were having.
And then we'll get into that in the second hour.
Just a little teaser for all that out there.
So...
In conclusion, I guess, why don't we want to have an alliance with Russia?
What's the big catch there?
What am I missing, Nick?
The defense industries wouldn't be making as much money if we didn't have a boogeyman.
Bin Laden's gone.
We don't have that boogeyman, so we have to have one boogeyman somewhere to be an adversary.
And it can't be China because we're too dependent on them.
That's exactly right.
And so you know what we did, Craig?
And our defense agencies cozied up to China and not Russia, who would have been a much better ally, as you were describing, especially geographically.
They would have been a better, so geographically they would have been a better ally, but if you want slave labor for your manufacturing, they wouldn't have been.
That's right.
That's right, Greg.
And that's what it's all about.
And it's all coming to an end pretty soon.
With the Federal Reserve going down, that's next.
And when that does, it'll be a daisy chain cascading effect because all of the banks are strung together and linked together.
And as soon as one major one, like our Federal Reserve fails, it'll collapse all of them.
And after that, it's a level playing field.
Russia and China have already been prepared for this.
They've been buying gold for Five, six, seven, eight, actually, what year is it?
They've been doing it for 10 years now, just hoarding gold.
And China just found a huge, huge, huge deposit of gold.
They just found it a few days ago.
Now it's at least, you know, China lies a lot.
So maybe it's probably 50% of what they said.
But there's a major deposit of gold that China just found.
And I have, you know, China's population's collapsing, and they're not going to be useful to us anymore pretty soon.
And don't forget, they bet $100 billion on the margin, which basically means betting against the U.S. dollar that it's going to drop really soon and, like, crash.
So if we can figure out a way to replace the Federal Reserve with a gold standard real quick, we could defeat China single-handedly in one swoop because they'll owe trillions of dollars for that money that they used for the margin call.
Yeah, it'll be interesting.
So there you go, folks.
That's why we don't want to be allies with geographically the largest countries.
Christian nation in the world is because we need slaves in China to build our trinkets that we buy at Walmart.
So, everybody stay tuned.
We got a different show coming up after the break.
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And I want to take a second before we bring our guest on, who is an incredible guest to have, talking about the JFK assassination and a lot of things that are connected to that.
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Without further ado, I want to introduce our guest.
Her name is Judith Very Baker.
She is apparently the former girlfriend, I guess, of Lee Harvey Oswald, but I don't want to tell her story for her.
I want her to tell her story for herself.
She has a book out right now that's called Lee Harvey Oswald and me.
And I want to make sure that you guys check that out.
But without further ado, let's introduce our guest, Judith Berry Baker.
Judith, are you there?
Yes.
Hello, everybody.
Hello, Judith.
Hi, Judith.
Pleasure to have you on.
I'm going to let Nick start the interview since you guys were the ones who have been talking.
All right.
So, Judith, I'm going to do a really quick summary, if that's okay, and then you can go into the full details of everything.
So, Judith was a part of a program basically when When Sputnik went up into orbit, then the United States government started a program to recruit all of the highest IQ individuals across the United States to be brought into classified programs to catch up with the Russians and their space program, among other things.
And that's how Judith was brought into this whole program Completely black world of intelligence here.
And she has the qualitative data that we've been missing.
We've been able to see all of the different relationships with Oswald.
Not necessarily Oswald.
Oswald's the one that's least talked about.
And she's going to cover the basis for Oswald to have everybody understand who he really was, what his intentions were, and what was really going on, and what he was a part of and what she was a part of.
So, without further ado, I'm going to give the floor to Judith.
You can go ahead, and I would start with how you met Oswald and all that.
Well, I think before I talk about meeting Lee Oswald, to understand my position, I was a special trainee after leaving high school, but in high school, Early on, even before, when I was still in junior high, I was contacted by a CIA agent.
It's all in my book, who he was and everything.
But what's important is that I ended up getting my very own lab when I was only 15. I invented a new way to get magnesium out of seawater and went to the International Science Fair with that because they were interested in magnesium for a rocket.
But what I was really, really focused on was cancer research.
My grandmother had died of cancer, and I was determined to do something about that.
And I had access to so much that they don't allow anymore, and it's a shame because young people who are inspired and have intelligence and the drive, they need access.
They're not getting it, of course.
I had access to Oak Ridge, to Walter Reed Research Institute, and University of Florida Medical Library up in Gainesville, and so on.
And with all that, I also had Dr. James Renier.
I was born in South Bend, Indiana, and our family was connected to Notre Dame and It was a Hungarian family.
He was born in Austria, but my Hungarian family lived miles away across the border from Vienna in Kapovar and Sopran and so on, and of course Budapest.
So anyway, he was the one who invented germ-free mice, and I was able to get my hands on them.
Well, it's basically described in my book.
I ended up Giving mice, germ-free mice, under, they're completely isolated.
There's no other way they could have gotten it.
They developed lung cancer in only seven days.
And two Nobel Prize winners and three of the most important cancer research doctors, one of them, the Vice President of the American Cancer Society, and the other was Dr. Alton Ochsner.
Also against smoking and all that, as was Dr. Diehl, who is also in charge of all the ACS research.
On top of that, there was Dr. George Moore.
And Dr. George Moore was the director of the institute, that is Roswell Park, the oldest cancer institute in the United States.
And I had the privilege of working with him in His own laboratory, his own private lab.
And this was really, well, he only did that once every one or two years.
I only recently met another person who had spent a whole summer in his lab like I did.
So he's a witness.
My witnesses keep popping up.
All right, so let's just fast forward now.
I've dated.
Can I ask real quick, Judith, how did you give the mice cancer?
Alright, well here's the thing.
Germ-free mice have no immune system, pups especially, alright?
It turned out that we had collected cigarette butts from all over, I and my friends, from all over Manatee County and They came from so many different sources.
We did not know at the time that we were picking up viruses that are not killed by cigarette smoke or flame, such as the SB40 monkey virus.
When they came and inspected my lab, they shut it down immediately.
It was so dangerous.
Only that day did I realize, that very same day, That I was induced cancer with viruses.
That kind of thought was being suppressed to the American public.
They were not supposed to know that because why?
You know, some viruses are catching.
The American Cancer Society and others did not want to lose people who would Caretakers and so on because they didn't know if it was contagious.
Okay, Judith, that goes along with all the research I've heard that completely tracks.
So that's fascinating.
We're hitting a break though.
So when we come back, Judith, I want to go back to where we were going to fast forward to from there and get into the whole Lee Harvey Oswald thing because I think you've kind of given us a little bit of your bona fides.
Now let's keep going.
So everybody stay tuned.
Judith Vary Baker is joining us.
We'll be back after the break.
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We're joined by a very special guest, our friend Judith Berry Baker, who's telling us a fascinating story.
Judith, please pick up where you left off, if you will.
Okay, I'm going to compress things.
I became very anti-Castro.
I dated the son of the Cuba's finance minister.
I got deep into things, and I didn't know I was being manipulated by the CIA. I was unwitting.
That changed.
That changed because they have a need to know thing, and if they don't tell somebody enough information, In this case, I came early to New Orleans.
I'd been asked to come by Dr. Ochsner.
There were a lot of newspaper articles about me.
In fact, they were even published in Europe, some of the things I had done.
And so I thought, whoa, you know, I'm going to have it cool when I come here to New Orleans.
I've got this secret formula that I learned at Roswell Park.
I can grow cancer faster than anybody, and I hadn't been able to do that.
All this excitement of working with Dr. Oxner, so I'm there, but I also had become engaged.
It wasn't that I was so much in love as I wanted birth control pills.
I thought I was a modern, liberated woman and so on and so forth, okay?
So here I'm here early, three and a half weeks, actually two and a half weeks early, and I'm like a loose cannon.
I'm meeting strippers and everything because the doctors were out of town.
So bluntly, and it took me a long time to figure it out, they decided to send someone to intercept me and make sure that I wouldn't go missing their asset.
And it turned out, you know, I'd been invited to work with Dr. Mary S. Sherman, incredibly important and famous cancer researcher and orthopedic surgeon, worked with crippled little kids, you know, with polio and did surgery on them.
And of course, then they found the connection between polio and the monkey virus.
And I had been trained to handle the monkey virus.
It turned out that Dr. Sherman and Dr. Ochsner were working on a special biological weapon.
This was being sponsored by the CIA, involved a linear particle accelerator, a ring of labs, but they didn't want the labs communicating with each other, so each had a segment.
But in mine, we were in a civilian lab.
It wasn't connected to Ochsner.
That's what you call, you know, plausible denial.
Lee Oswald apparently was sent to intercept me and to make sure all would go well until the doctors came back from Central South America, as I said, two and a half weeks early.
And I had been taught, by the way, how to speak and read Russian.
I had all this information about...
Anti-Castro people.
I always had close relationships with people in the CIA. And Lee Oswald thought that I was a winning.
I was unwitting.
Even though I knew these were CIA and our whole family had security clearance, it just seemed so natural and normal.
I didn't think of it as possibly nefarious or anything.
That would change.
Because in New Orleans, it turned out that they were in the second year of a project that was to make a biological weapon out of cancer.
And the idea was to kill Castro.
They've tried many other ways to do it.
Everything from exploding, they'll tell you the silly ones, like exploding seashells and botulism in a diving suit that nobody is brave enough to give him.
But this was deadly serious, and CI is not going to tell you the most deadly serious projects.
Those are kept secret, and they always will be, from masks that look just like, you know, you can change your entire performance and appearance just with how you dress, how you're taught.
In my case, I was so ignorant.
I was only 19. Anyway, Lee and I... Lee intercepted me at the post office.
I spoke some Russian when I dropped something and he picked it up.
I was angry because my fiancé hadn't written.
And I saw there was no ring on Lee's, you know, left hand.
So I flirted with him.
He's cute.
And especially after...
With the strippers, the kind of guys they had introduced me to in my brief foray into that underworld of New Orleans.
He looked so clean-cut, and he was only a few years older than I was, 23, and I was going to be turning 20. So anyway, when I spoke Russian, he answered me back in Russian.
It was incredible.
I said, Well done, comrade, when he picked up this folded newspaper, rolled up newspaper, that I was carrying around with me, and he saw I'd circled something, and it was a code.
Anyway, to make a long story short, I knew so many things that I didn't realize that a lot of the information that I had was classified and so on.
He talked normally and naturally, and I thought he was just...
Someone who had to be anti-Castro or something, pretending to be pro-Castro, because he told me he was married to a USSR citizen, a Russian, no doubt, no less, and he had come back from 30 months over in the USSR as a defector.
I looked at him and I said, You are my shining hero.
This is incredible.
There's no way you'd be walking around a free man.
I knew all about defectors and what happened to them.
And here he's walking around a free man.
It was amazing to see how his face changed.
This is a man who didn't have anyone he could talk to or confide in about who he really was, not even to his wife.
He had to always pretend he was Pro-Russian and everything like that.
But Lee Oswald and I had something very much in common.
That is the Hungarian Revolution.
On October 26, 19...
This is 19...
Excuse me.
On October 23, excuse me, of 1956, okay...
My grandmother had just died, and so she didn't see it.
But Hungarians were pleading, help us, help us.
They're shooting us.
They're killing us.
All we want is our freedom.
America, you said you'd help us.
And America did not.
And we're crying because my family, some of them got shot over there, all right?
And it was a horrible time.
Someone else was listening on the 23rd of October at the same time, in 56. His name was Lee Oswald.
The next day, he joined the Marines, and you're not going to find that on Wikipedia.
He joined to fight the Reds.
He wanted to be a spy.
He wanted to do like Herbert Philbrick.
I led three lives.
He was really an inspiration to him, and like a hero, because that man, Philbrick, I Led Three Lives had this series on TV. Based on what he had done, he had pretended to be a communist.
And then he would report back to the FBI and break up communist plots in the New York City area and so on.
And it was real.
It was true.
Well, it was dramatized that it was true.
And that was his goal.
And that's why when he was only 17, only a week after his 17th birthday, He joins the Marines, and it won't be long.
They'll start training him so he can become a CIA double agent, and he will be a fake defector.
When I met him, I knew he was a hero.
I knew that much about all the people I had dealt with, which you can read about in my book.
It's a 600-page book.
I have all the documentation.
We kept the documentation.
I did, too, because We were told that we were saving the world from World War III, and if we can weaponize cancer and get a shot into Fidel Castro and it kills him, nobody will be blamed but the cancer.
So you're saying weaponized cancer would have been delivered at that point through a shot, like an injection?
Well, this is what happened is Dr. Alton Ochsner, who is the one who brought me into this ring of labs and everything, and to work with Dr. Sherman, who, by the way, was brutally murdered on July 21, 1964, when the Warren Commission came to New Orleans to get testimony.
She was front-page used.
Dabbed, burned, right arm missing.
Oh, they didn't mention that part in the newspaper articles.
It was gross.
This is my friend.
By the way, everyone I work with, they've been murdered.
And as I said, it saved all this material because we thought we were going to be heroes.
We thought the day will come when, you know, killing Castro to us was like killing Putin or something, you see.
If Putin said, I'm going to start World War III. I mean, Castro had aimed nuclear weapons.
He's only 90 miles from the U.S., And my family.
I was living in Florida.
I saw the troops and the tanks rolled out.
That was only six months earlier.
Here I'm in New Orleans, and I find out I'm in a project, okay, to kill Fidel Castro, and I thought this would save many lives.
I mean, they sold us this dream.
Little did I realize that once they use it, if they use it on Castro, Hey, they're not going to throw that away.
They're going to use it on others.
The only reason I ask about the shot is because, you know, we have vaccines that are being rolled out across the globe right now that people are connecting to cancer.
But I don't want to distract you from the story that is important to understanding Lee Harvey Oswald because we only have so much time, Judith, and I don't want to off track you.
I don't know how much time you have.
I'm sorry.
All right, well, to compress everything, all right, which I think I can do in a minute here.
Ochsner had actually accidentally killed his own grandson with a polo shot, and that's when he realized the contaminations in shots that everybody trusts, okay, that we'd be able to inject Castro.
Trouble is, anyway, it wasn't going to be that easy.
On the other hand, we needed protection, and that's where Lee and a couple others came into focus.
It's very important to understand that Lee was pretending to be pro-Castro to protect us from Castro's spies.
He was really like a bodyguard, but he's intelligent, and they decided to use him as a courier.
I'll go where you want me to go.
Tell me what you want me to talk about.
Have you talked to Jim Scott at all about any of this?
I don't know who Jim Scott is.
Okay, we need to connect her, right?
Yes, they have overlap in their stories.
Yeah, there is a lot of overlap between your stories, and that goes back to, I believe the guy's name was James Files, recounting of the assassination of Kennedy.
Oh, well, I've got problems with James Files, all right?
Okay, all right, well, let's dive into all that.
Well, I'll tell you the difficulty I have.
Number one, Lee, it took him months, a long time, to figure out the name of his handler who gave him David Attlee Phillips gave many different names, and Lee was told that his name was Benson,
then Benson, when he met him with Vestiana, all right, and this is, we're talking about September now, he's still not sure his name, because Vestiana says, oh, hola, you know, Mr. Bishop, and here he's standing with the guy who said his name was Benson, and now he realizes his name is also Bishop.
Alright?
Now that's weird.
Okay.
We're hitting a break.
We're hitting a break, Judith.
I'm going to do my best.
I'll let Nick kind of help.
We're going to get back to the story.
I want to get as much condensed in this last few segments as we can.
But this is still a fascinating story up to this point.
A lot of very interesting information.
I'm sure our audience is very interested to hear what else you have to say to us.
So please stick around.
We're going to hit this break.
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We're joined by Judith Very Baker, and she's giving us her story here.
And I want to, Nick, is there anything we can do to get this back on track so we can condense it?
Well, let's have her talk about David Ferry.
I really had no idea that we'd have such a short interview, and I apologize.
Oh, that's okay.
Judith, we may have to bring you on for a longer show and give you more time to tell your whole story because it's a very good story.
However, we'll do what we can now with Nick here.
All right.
Just skimming along here.
Basically, James Files...
We have many reasons, but he just simply could not have known the name of this and have a direct contact with the handler.
He always had a cutout, and they always used fake names until they were...
I mean, it took Lee almost to the end of his life to find out the real name, and it was only by luck.
But I don't want to go there.
I'm just saying that you can read an awful lot when you're in prison.
In the case of Lee, all right?
Yes, and I didn't realize that, that he had access to all kinds of books and things.
I had access to nothing.
It's all in my head.
Everything that happened, I've never forgotten, and I won't, because Lee Oswald was an innocent man who tried to save President Kennedy's life, and now that is worth thinking about.
You have James Douglas, okay, who wrote...
JFK and the Unspeakable, a wonderful book.
You have Secret Service agent Abraham Bolden, who also has testified that an informant named Lee saved Kennedy's life in Chicago.
Okay, so all these details are in my book.
There's an awful lot.
Let's go back here, though.
We have a dialogical weapon that was being developed.
When I objected to using prisoners without their knowledge, that is, their volunteers...
That if it worked, it would kill them.
I found myself persona non gratis, and it's one of the reasons I'm still alive.
They told me to be quiet or I'd die, and I was quiet for 35 years.
As for Lee Oswald, Lee cared about his country very much.
He realized that he was in a position where they're making him Pretend to be pro-Castro, and to the outside world, he looks like a communist.
But when they refused to give him college education, he realized they weren't going to raise him up in the company.
That's what they called it, you know.
They also called it the outfit, and so on.
Lee taught me so much about the CIA, and I learned a great deal from him and his problem.
The problem was is they were not investing in him, and he realized he could easily be used as a patsy.
He tried to defend himself was not going to work.
There's no escape.
You never get out of this.
I know I've had some people are good in the CIA. I've had interventions.
I wouldn't be here.
But the bottom line is that the SV40 monkey virus It was unleashed that summer of 63 in 98 million polio shots.
That is a small DNA virus.
It is so small, and it also invades the DNA of your cell.
And anybody telling you that the shots, which contained chopped up, let's call them enhancers, okay, promoters, they used to use the word Cancer promoters, but that doesn't look very nice, does it, in the fold-out flyer you get?
So they just call it an enhancer along with mercury, somerosterol, and you know what I'm saying, like that.
So the bottom line is, is that today, the SB4 monkey virus that was contaminating polio, that virus gives cancer to everything that crawls that's a mammal.
And we are mammals.
It takes longer for us because there's one kind of simian.
SV is simian virus, okay?
So this monkey virus is one of 40 that they discovered.
These were growing on chopped up kidneys of infected monkeys.
That's what they grew the polio vaccine on.
I'm going to tell you that the vaccine makers are dirty.
Their product is very dirty.
Why?
Because they can't be sued.
So, you know, for efficiency's sake, they don't do a very good cleanup.
I could go into a lot of detail, and if you go to at Judith, J-U-D-Y-T-H on X, you'll see a lot of information.
No holds barred.
Nick?
So, well, thank you for that summary.
It was perfect.
So, based upon my research, Judith, I have found that Lee was, in fact, an informant for the FBI, and he actually helped shut down the anti-Castro-Cuban camps, and that was ultimately what...
Yeah, I described that in my book.
All that planning that went into that, how he was able to have Fernando Fernandez blame for the raid instead of him, and other things that were going on.
By the way, that raid was only on a U-Haul and a token number of people there.
That was a, you might call it, that was not the real issue.
Deal that was going on at Lake Pontchartrain, that was like what you would use so that you could hide what was really going on, all right?
Were you involved with Lee, Judith, up until November 22nd, 1963?
Absolutely, until 37 and a half hours before the assassination.
Oh my gosh.
And it was, yeah, Thursday a.m., you know, like, you know, 1.30 in the morning.
What was the last thing he told you about what he was doing?
Oh, God.
Oh, we cried.
We had tried so hard.
They said that we'd be able to go to Mexico and live there.
Lee made all kinds of, well, I'll put it this way.
When he realized that they were going to do this to him, and if he ran...
They not only kill him anyway, but they kill all of us.
And if he could say, I'm CIA, he had too many wonderful contacts in the USSR and elsewhere that were CIA, the Russians would have killed them.
You know, these people knew that Lee would not betray the CIA. And here they used a mafia guy, Jack Ruby, who Lee actually had known from childhood.
To kill him.
And by the way, if Jack Ruby hadn't done that, they would have killed him too.
In my book, you'll find out they did murder him.
They actually gave him...
Yeah, that's what I was going to say.
So Jack Ruby dies of turbo cancer.
And that's what you're talking about.
Well, no, they realized he'd die in 28 days from tuberculosis, and they couldn't have that.
They realized at the last minute, wait a minute, we've got to kill him with something else.
So I have the records.
National Archives called me because they were upset that some of my documents had been altered online.
And they still said National Archives.
So they called me.
I have it in the book.
Get this.
Jack Ruby.
Was fried alive with over 500 x-rays, many of them 360s, okay?
That's top of the head to the toe, all right, all around your body.
Over 500 x-rays in only 22 days.
And he died of a long blood clot, just like they have today.
It was almost, it was like over a...
Foot long.
Maybe 18 inches long.
Fibrous.
Same thing that you see now.
Yes.
Wow.
Judith, we're hitting a break.
We have...
One more segment.
We're going to come back.
I want to keep going.
And Nick, perhaps over the break, you can think of any direction that, since you've had extensive conversations with Judith, any direction you think we should go in this final segment.
But Judith, I imagine we're going to be having you back on the show sometime in the future.
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I'm your host, Craig James, with Nick Ngo and our guest, Judith Very Baker.
Nick...
Is there any direction that we should go here in this last segment?
Well, what I'd like to say is that, you know, Judith shared a lot of information here about her experience as a scientist and what they were doing making the turbo cancer and the clots that are related somewhat to what we're seeing today.
You know, we could talk about David Ferry and some other people, Guy Bannister, Jack Ruby, and all that.
I'd like to continue talking about Ruby and what you think they did that—I mean, obviously they killed him because, you know, they don't want anybody to talk about it.
If he's going to die from the turbo cancer first, that would be found in the autopsy, and maybe they might find— That's right.
So I see why they killed him.
One of our listeners, Judith, had a question, which maybe you can answer.
They were wondering whether or not the cancer developed, this turbo cancer vaccine, whatever it is from the CIA, was there a built-in timing mechanism to it?
Well, originally...
Something had to be done because you had to originally inject it, okay, into the bloodstream.
This is why Jack Ruby knew what he had because it has to be a large needle otherwise a small one would be all clogged up with cancer cells.
So it's going to be a painful one, and it's not going to be like in the rear end, like here's your penicillin shot, bam.
You're going to put it in the blood vein.
So he recognized what was going on.
The CIA were working together.
Now, the sad part is that we, of course, thought, well, this is just going to be used.
Now, but it was actually handed off to MD Anderson.
By the way, no, they're not going to sue me because they'll be sorry.
I've got the records.
I've got the documents.
I wouldn't be speaking like this, all right?
But I can.
So between the big hospitals, they took it on the CIA saying we want to study this and make sure that nobody else develops this.
But as a matter of fact, they put it in deep freeze.
And the bottom line is that we've got to get rid of these biological warfare materials.
We've got to shut these labs down.
We've got to stop messenger RNA. We have to stop gene therapy.
Nice as it looks, we have other avenues we can take.
Our kids are among the sickest ever, anywhere.
But the Amish aren't.
Those kids are healthy.
And all my children that only had One shot that is DPT. My children were so healthy, taller, stronger, never had a runny nose, never had an earache.
All around me, the kids were already getting lots of shots, and today it's much worse.
We have to find other ways.
Big Pharma has made a killing literally on us.
I agree.
I mean, I look around myself and I see a lot of exactly what you've described, especially in, you know, and I've heard other people basically who have confirmed what you're saying.
With the SD40 virus, cancer being developed virally, and that's probably why certain things like fembenazole, ivermectin, other medicines have been...
Well, I'll tell you why those work.
I'm going to be very specific.
These respiratory viruses have acclimatized themselves to humans, and humans have gotten along with them because a cold or a small flu can become serious.
But let's just say respiratory viruses in general, the body tolerates them well, and it helps kids to exercise their immune system.
It's a minor infection.
It's not We shouldn't be getting shots for them.
That's because they've been attenuated.
They've been magnified, okay, in the labs and everything.
But the bottom line is, if you have a small respiratory virus infection, then when something big comes along, okay, like TB, your immune system has been perked up a little bit and is ready for action.
When we give a shot for every single thing, the immune system doesn't know how to respond anymore properly.
So every new fluid that comes along, you know, it can be deadly because your immune system is loaded with all kinds of antibodies it's going to try first.
Only when those don't work by then, this thing is multiplying your system.
These are just basic ideas that you can hear more.
I have podcasts on Sunday, by the way, at 7 p.m., And it's called Ask Judas Anything, and I will answer.
Well, Judith, I know your book, Lee Harvey Oswald and Me, is available right now on Amazon, if anybody's interested in purchasing it.
And also, I think, if they PayPal you at JudithFerryBaker at gmail.com, the amount of $39.95, you'll send an autographed copy.
I want to thank you for joining us, and I want to really thank you for taking the time to talk to Nick and give him so much information.
I really appreciate your story, and I'm thankful that you're coming forward.
My final question to you is...
Yes.
You said everybody...
You know, I'm 81. I'm 81 and I've got to say these things while I'm still on the planet, you know?
I guess that's my question then.
My final question is, you've said all your people you've worked with over the years have been killed or not around anymore.
Why you?
Why are you left?
Well, I think I had so many newspaper articles about me that something happened to me in New Orleans because that's where I was threatened.
After objecting to using prisoners like that, it would have said, what happened in New Orleans?
What they did, and a lot of them, even Lee at one point, they put the people who were in the projects or had these cover jobs at what's called Riley Coffee Company, they went to NASA. Well, they put me back, I was at University of Florida, they put me at Peninsula Chem Research that had NASA projects.
And that way, it looked like I was still involved because I was working with a lot of the glycerides and everything that are used for deep freezing this material.
And so, little by little, then you don't hear about me again.
I get some awards and all that, but my records get scrubbed.
Oh, my medical course is gone.
But I have witnesses.
You know, Dr. Kathy Santi, for example.
And they keep coming up.
It's not like that's what I say about files.
Show me his witnesses.
I have them.
Interesting.
All right.
Well, Judith, it was a pleasure to have you on the show again.
If you guys want our book, it's called Lee Harvey Oswald and Me.
It's available on Amazon.
Thank you, Judith.
We really appreciate it.
We'll hopefully get you on the show again soon.
Okay, Merry Christmas.
Merry Christmas.
I say it aloud.
Merry Christmas.
God bless you.
I'm also a Christian, and it's meant the world to me.
Amen and amen.
Amen.
God bless you, and thank you for joining us.
And we're going to take a quick break.
We'll be back for our last segment.
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When I was broken at the bottom I found You're my healer and redeemer Jesus That's who you are You brought me blessed We're coming to a symphony And we're just giving up Welcome
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I'm your host, Craig James, with Nick Ngo.
And I want to thank you, Nick, for bringing Judith on.
That was great.
Thanks, Craig.
She's been squirreled away all the way up until this point, and she's the connecting tissue to unraveling the Kennedy assassination.
And whenever this all starts to become published, and Kash Patel has promised he's going to release this stuff when he's in.
Then it'll all start to make sense.
And if you add hers as cross-reference, then we'll be able to have the full picture with all of the subjective information, the relationships and conversations and stuff she fills in.
But then, you know, documents and documentation and all the other stuff is going to be provided by them.
It's going to be quite nice to come to Jesus moment for our country.
To say, hey, look, this happened.
The government ran away doing its own thing, and we need to fix this.
Just from that alone, that should help get us back on track as a country, I think.
There are other things we'll be rolling out, I'm sure, at the same time.
But I appreciate you letting me have her on.
I'm going to do my last little thought here.
I guess the best way to think about all this, guys, there's too many irons in the fire.
There's nothing that can stop what's coming and God wins.
Amen.
Amen.
And she was great.
And just to preface, you know, this is not a medical show.
We don't give medical advice.
So everything you heard here today, you know, consult your own physician.
And, uh, However, though, we finish every show with our God's Grace is Greater, and today's no different.
We're going to look at 1 Timothy 2, and I think this is where we need to go with all this information, right?
There's a lot of bad stuff happening, and it does seem like it can feel hopeless at times, but listen to these words.
This is where we go with our prayer.
First of all then, I urge that petitions, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgivings be made for everyone, for kings and all those who are in authority, so that we may lead a tranquil and quiet life in all godliness and dignity.
This is good and it pleases our God, our Savior, who wants everyone to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.
For there is one God and one mediator between God and humanity, Christ Jesus himself, human, who gave himself a ransom for all, A testimony at the proper time.
And I'm sharing that with all of you out there because we need to be praying for these people to have a change of heart.
God can change hearts and minds and if it happens one at a time, that's Exactly where we need to start.
So we need to make sure that we go into this upcoming set of days and weeks and months and years ahead praying, working fervently one day at a time, one person at a time.
To make sure we put our faith back in the Lord and trust that He will help us come through all of this.
But that's where I'm going to leave it.
I want to thank everybody.
I want to thank Judith.
I want to thank Nick.
I want to thank the audience, the listeners, the texters.
Sorry we didn't get to every one of your texts, but we read them all.
And we'll be back next week.
Same time, same place, God willing.
Until then...
I am your host, Craig James.
That was your guest host, special guest co-host, Nick Ngo.
And we're going to be back.
So everybody stay tuned.
More to come, but for now, that's it.
I will see you on the next one.
Until then, Godspeed and God bless each and every one of you patriots.
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