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I'm your host, Craig James.
And boy, do we have a show for you today.
For those of you who are joining us for the first time on a Friday, just to let you know, every Friday here on Just Informed Talk Radio is something we like to call Tinfoil Friday.
And that is simply a way of putting it That we go into the information that most people will never dive into.
We talk about things that you're never going to hear on the fake news media, and we try to go down the rabbit hole and take the proverbial red pill.
So, if you're willing to join us on our adventure, it starts right now.
We're going to be joined today by a very special guest.
Obviously, as you all know, we have our A special guest co-host who joins us every Friday, the U.S.
Air Force veteran and military intelligence insider who is known as the Benghazi whistleblower, Nick Ngo, will be giving us his, you know, best takes on today's topics, as well as a guest who we are very thankful to be joined by.
An individual who has quite an impressive background.
His background includes studying at MIT and working at NASA.
His name is Alexander Mayer.
He's a cosmologist and he's going to be joining us on this adventure today as we dive into the rabbit holes that exist.
Covering everything from 9-11 to the moon landing to the creation of the universe and how there is intelligent design, which I think I agree with 100%.
So there is a lot we're going to be unpacking here in today's show and I want to thank everybody for joining us.
If you're listening here, In the front range of the Colorado Rockies, thank you!
Make sure you guys keep it locked in here at 1360 AM.
If you're listening online at 1360KHNC.com, we also want to thank you and welcome you.
And if at any point during today's show you have any thoughts, comments, questions, concerns, topics you want us to go into, or just comments for me, Nick, or Alexander, Please feel free to call or text the phone number 877-536-1360.
You can send a text message or call that number, and we're very excited for today's show.
It's going to be quite a show.
So without further ado, I want to first welcome Nick onto the show.
Nick, are you there?
Yes, I'm here, Craig.
I'm excited.
I am very much looking forward to today's show as well.
It's going to be quite a show.
And I guess without any further ado, let's go ahead and introduce the guest who we have joining us here today.
Alex, are you there?
I am.
Well, it's a pleasure to have you on here, sir.
And I know that we have a number of directions we can go, a number of topics we can dive into.
I'm sure you just heard that intro.
I mean, this is kind of where we're going today.
And I know you're actually a friend of Nick's, and that's how we kind of all got connected.
So I'm going to kind of turn this over to Nick and let him run the first part of the interview here, because I think he's got a better grasp on just where we want to take this ship today.
Sure.
Thanks, Craig.
I want everybody to know I've known Alex for a long time.
He's a very smart guy and a no nonsense individual.
You know, he does not, you know, as a scientist, it's hard to find people who are, you know, have integrity nowadays.
And he'll talk about that whole issue.
And I want everybody to know he's also very humble.
So when he talks to you about these things, I mean, what he's discovered is so important for physics and just our knowledge and understanding of the universe.
And, you know, it proves many things.
And then it's so very important to understand the foundation for the rest of physics, because there are some glaring issues that are addressed with what he's discovered.
And, you know, I think that There are going to be a lot of people super interested in what he has discovered in his work.
And we'll make sure that after this, we have the links inside of the Rumble video version.
And we'll also read those off so that you all can follow along.
I'll go ahead and read it right now if you want to.
Pull up your phone and then type in http colon forward slash forward slash the usual and then bit.ly forward slash khnc osmoy One more time.
Once you get through H-T-T-P colon forward slash forward slash B-I-T dot L-Y forward slash K-H-N-C-O-S-M-O to find his work and you can follow along and I'll give you the floor.
Alex, please just go ahead and talk about your journey.
Alright, well, I have to tell the audience, the first thing is, and it's worth saying, Mr. No, Nick Nicholas No, is a remarkable individual.
It was my pleasure, and he's a remarkable human being, and without Nick, I wouldn't be on this show.
And I wish there were more people in our country who represented integrity and courage like he does.
So that's the ground.
The most important thing in our society puts a lot of emphasis on wealth and intelligence.
You know, we talk about, wow, that guy is really smart, or that woman is very smart.
And we all know through history, there were some very, very intelligent people Um, who did some very awful things.
And the most important thing in life is character.
That's the thing we need to look.
We need, whether it's a person in science or medicine or a person, any person in public office, what we need to look for is character, um, on top of intelligence.
In fact, I would say, yeah, character is the most, and Nick Ngo is a person who represents that, um, that excellence in character, which is, It's part of the, it's the American way.
Anyway, that's, I want to set the groundwork there.
All right.
So, uh, if you, uh, if the, the, the link that Nick mentioned, K-H-N-C-O-S-M-O, after it's, it's a bitly link, B-I-T-D-O-T-L-K, that would be best looked at.
It's really not appropriate for a phone.
It's too, it's, it's really, you need to be looking on it on a laptop.
Or perhaps a home computer.
In fact, the larger the screen, the better.
But let's get started with the background here.
Alex, I just want to give you a heads up.
We're hitting a break here in about 30 seconds, so that you're going to hear the music come on.
And again, before you get started with this, I want to say thank you for joining us.
We're going to have a much longer segment when we come back after this short commercial break.
And then I just figured I'd stop you there because I don't want you to get cut off like right when you start, you know, with the commercial break.
So if you guys are... Alright, I understand.
Thank you.
Yeah, absolutely.
If you guys are enjoying this conversation and you want to hear Alex's story, well I'll tell you what, you're going to want to stay tuned because we are going to be hitting a very quick commercial break and as soon as we come back from that he is going to take the floor and walk us through his journey and this incredible story with so much information.
All I can say is you better be ready You better be prepared and go to that link.
Pull all that up on your computer right now.
Get all of your information in front of you so that you're ready to follow along.
This is going to be quite a journey.
Everybody stay tuned.
We're coming right back in just a moment.
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Welcome back to Just Warm Talk Radio.
I'm your host, Craig James.
We're joined for this tinfoil Friday, a very special episode by Nick Ngo, our normal guest co-host and an incredible individual by the name of Alexander Mayer.
He has a very incredible background.
We went over just previously.
He was about to get started with the story of his journey, which I think you're all going to want to very much pay attention to.
So I'm going to go ahead and just turn the floor over to you, Alex.
I know you're about to get started.
We got cut off by the break.
Let's just, uh, hand you the mic and let you go.
Very well.
All right.
So some of you may have looked just briefly through some of those slides online and Let's face it, we all have different expertise, and some of that stuff, if you're not a pretty sophisticated technical person, it might be deer in the headlights.
Now, but for this audience, in terms of, on the last page, page 50, where I have the photograph I took of the penguins, there is a little rabbit, it's called The Truth, and that's the rabbit hole, okay?
And that is about The politics, the history of what happened going back over 20 years.
And I like, some of you may be familiar with the podcast, the Grand Theft World podcast with Richard Grove, the historian, and he's the person who really emphasized the idea of having receipts.
that when you make statements about things, you need to prove that this happened.
And so what I've done there is there's an entire very, very big history, and I've included links and emails and everything anybody would need to know to write a book or a movie script about what happened.
And so for the audience, I encourage you to go to that last page, 50, and go down the rabbit hole.
If you click on it, literally, there'll be this little rabbit hole that'll take you.
And then it says, this is what happened at Stanford.
In 2005-2006, and there's a link there, and that'll take you where you need to go.
Okay, let's get started.
Who's this guy on the radio talking to you, and who made that presentation that you may have brought up online right now?
All right.
So I'm currently I'm 60 years old.
I was a classic American tech nerd, kind of when I was a kid, you know, I was not a I was not a sports guy.
I was a nerdy kid.
So and just to get I started working On computers, we had a computer linked to what's called a PDP-11, and I was writing software at the age of 11.
of 11, 11, 12, that would be 1975, 1976 already.
And then I worked at, I was actually hired to teach people how to use BASIC and how to use the teletype computers at Berkeley, the Lawrence Hall of Science.
And then I worked for Kaiser Engineers when I was 16, 17 in high school.
That's how, when, and then I went to, I ended up going to MIT and majored in aeronautics and astronautics.
So at least on paper, I'm what people call a rocket scientist, but let's, you know, but that's on paper, because we, my skill set is not, I would not call myself any kind of a rocket engineer at this point, because I don't, I didn't work in that field.
I chose Here I was in 1983-1984, being 19-20 years old, and I was at MIT studying Aeronautics and Astronautics, and I was one of the founding members of what's called CEDD, Students for the Exploration and Development of Space.
You can look that up online, SEDS.org, S-E-D-S dot org, and actually myself and some other folks, in particular a guy named Peter Diamandis, we set up SEDS and we were very excited about space exploration, about the Apollo program, and all that stuff.
And remember, I was a card-carrying member of all that stuff.
And it so happens that I was walking down the hallway at MIT, and I met this gentleman named Dr. Hans Mark.
And who was that?
He was the former Secretary of the Air Force, and at that time, the Deputy Administrator of NASA.
It's called the Infinite Corridor.
It's well over, I can't remember how many yards it is, but it's longer than a football field.
It's called the Infinite Corridor.
I met this gentleman.
We talked for 10 or 15 minutes.
Remember, I'm this neophyte, this young 1920-year-old kid at MIT, and this is before I emailed.
So Hansmark says, Write me a letter, you've got a job at NASA.
So sure enough, I wrote the letter.
Next thing you know, I have a position at NASA Goddard Space Flight Center, which is in Greenbelt, Maryland, just outside of Washington.
It's the premier space flight center.
And, and here I am, I'm age 20.
But you see, I already had eight or nine years experience working on computers.
And, you know, in 1984, I was kind of, I mean, I was the resident expert, and I was very, very lucky.
I worked for a guy named John Sooty, Jr.
He's long retired, and perhaps, I'm not sure.
Anyway, he was a brilliant engineer, and he was working on space telescope And so I ended up writing a piece of software called NASA SATGAP, Satellite Dynamics Analysis Package, etc, etc.
And that's, so I was a, you know, and I was a big NASA fan, etc, etc.
And then, the Space Shuttle, you may recall that the Space Shuttle blew up, and there was a lot of politics involved.
The engineer, the chief engineer, Morton Thykall, told him not to launch it, but he was overruled, and the Space Shuttle blew up.
And that was very, that was my introduction to how politics runs things instead of technical reality.
Where are we going?
So I ended up, when I graduated, instead of, another thing that happened is I was very excited about space and space exploration and sort of the NASA mission.
But when I graduated from the Department of Aeronautics and Astronautics as a quote-unquote rocket scientist, the only jobs I was offered were to build ordnance, and that's just a military term, to build To build things to kill people.
And, um, I just was not, that was not hope.
That was not my most sovereign.
I just didn't want to do that.
And I ended up, of course, remember the late 80s going into the 90s and the jobs were in software.
So just to let you know, that's why I went into software and I made my career and my living writing software.
Now, my passion was always physics.
And so I spent, you know, That's what I, that's my, my, you know, you do, some people are lucky, you know, you do, I worked to make money, to make a living, I wrote software.
My life was about physics.
And early on, I found out that the academic, well, the thing that was going on back then was if you wanted to be in theoretical physics, you had to be a string theorist.
It was literally, It was a religion, and I already knew that that was not a path to any kind of success.
Not personal success, but success in science.
I thought it was nothing that would lead anywhere.
We need to fast forward to when I woke up.
We're talking about the tinfoil hat, we're talking about being awake, learning, understanding how the world works.
I was a complete sheeple until 2006.
Is this working out?
Yeah, everything's good.
I for some reason I'm hearing like some distortion and I don't know I listened on the radio while you were talking and it's a little crackly but I think you're coming through just fine now so Just, uh, don't worry.
Cause everything you're saying is very important and you don't have to fast track anywhere if you don't want, but if you want, yes, this is tinfoil Friday, but we're having you on for the whole two hours.
So you can take the same direction.
I'm enjoying this very much.
And I know our audiences.
Thank you.
All right.
So, uh, so, so I was a card tearing member of, um, I had absolute faith in my government, in the institutions of government.
I was a very squared away person.
I really was.
I just, one of those, and I'm not, I'm not, you know, I didn't, you know, I've never, I just never, I never smoked double pee.
You know, I didn't party.
I didn't drink.
Um, I was an Eagle Scout and I think, you know, you know, a square guy.
Um, and I actually thought that most people in positions of authority were, were a lot like me, meaning very responsible, very concerned about, about Other people, and I've learned that that's incredibly naive.
What I didn't, what we never were taught in school was, um, we, there was never, and I actually took a, you know, semester of, of, of social psychology at MIT, and they never ever touched on psychopathy or narcissism, which of course, that's a whole, we can talk for two hours about that.
Um, anyhow, But it turns out that those topics are of extreme importance because the Gluster B Personality Disorder is rampant among so-called authority figures in every government, in religion, in finance.
That's what we're going to need to deal with.
Alright, what happens?
Remember 9-11?
Remember how the airplanes hit the buildings, and then they caught on fire, and then there was this wonderful... Remember PBS?
Public Broadcasting System.
And, you know, the NOVA.
Wonderful, you know, NOVA science specials.
NOVA always has these wonderful science specials.
And NOVA had a special on, you know, on how the buildings fell down.
It was the Pancake Theory.
Remember how the first floor, blah blah, and then you saw the beautiful, you know, the computer-aided Um, um, whatever video about how the buildings fell down.
And here I was, Mr. Mr. Rocket Science from engineer, uh, from, from, from, from MIT engineering, um, plus my very strong physics background.
And it's, see, it's hypnosis.
We don't, uh, the first principle of hypnosis is that you suspend your judgment.
And television was designed from the get-go as a hypnotic instrument.
I learned all this stuff later on.
Um, so, uh, so I was hypnotized.
It was, I knew, I, the buildings fell down, et cetera, et cetera.
So then what happens, it's 2006 and it's after work.
And I'm a bachelor, and I go to a place in Mill Valley, California called the Sweetwater.
It's a very famous bar that, you know, there was a lot of rock and roll legends that went there.
And anyway, I'm a bachelor, and I'm looking for pretty girls, right?
And that's where you go at six o'clock, and Mill Valley's kind of a nice little place, very nice little community.
And I'm sitting down at the bar having my one beer, you know, just my little, just to sort of hang out and look around, maybe meet some people.
All right.
There's three gentlemen to my left and they're all grandpa.
You know, they're all, you know, this is, this is a while back and 2006.
So, uh, you know, quite a long time ago.
And, uh, they're all like, they're about 70 and they're all wearing their baseball caps and whatever.
And they just look at good old boys.
So I start talking to the guy on my left.
There's three of them.
One, two, three.
You can tell they're all friends.
They're going to hang out.
So the guy on my left says, uh, hi, how you doing?
Or whatever like that.
And I said, hi again.
And I noticed that their conversation was erudite.
I mean, these were not, you know, they looked, you know, they were all dressed down, looking like good old boys.
But the guy says, um, So, what do you do?
And then normally, you know how it is, physics is not something that people know about, or intimidating, or what have you.
So I said, I do physics.
Remember, I said, I do physics.
And I remember the first thing the guy asked me, he goes, yeah, where do you go to school?
And I said, MIT.
And he goes, oh yeah?
And then the next thing he says to me, he says, what do you think about 9-11?
Which, at the time, I thought that was a very strange question.
Like, what are you talking about?
about 9/11.
And I said, well-- - All right, here we go.
Everybody, you want to hear this story?
You're going to want to stay tuned.
Sorry to cut you off, Alex.
We're hitting the break, but it's a perfect place for us to hit the break because that's definitely a cliffhanger that's going to get people back.
I know it because I want to hear the end of that story, and I know you out there listening want to hear it, too.
We're going to take a very quick commercial break.
We're going to come back.
We're going to give the floor back to Alex and we're going to let him keep going because this is tinfoil Friday and we're just breaking it all down.
It's going to be really fascinating.
Everybody stay tuned.
We'll be back after the break.
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Welcome back to Just Forum Talk Radio.
I'm your host Craig James and we're joined by Alexander Mayer.
He is telling us his incredible story from MIT to NASA to uncovering truths that that he wasn't really prepared for and he was telling us this amazing story about kind of what woke him up on the truth about 9-11 and I want him to keep going but I also want to let you know
Alex that uh you know for whatever reason I've never heard this before I've never had this happen before but this hap these kind of things seem to happen when we do these kind of shows around tinfoil Friday and other when we have other very special guests I we're getting this like crackling in the airwaves where you know every now and then it seems like You're losing a word, and it's like popping and cracking when you speak.
And I don't think it's anything on our end.
This is just something weird.
This happens often, though, when we have guests like you.
No, no, but it's the standard attack.
I have a lot of experience with this.
And whoever's doing this, okay, this is your government, you know, freedom of speech.
Ha ha, what a joke.
Whoever's doing this, by the way, and you're listening, and you know, you're a traitor.
We are a constitutional republic.
And whoever's doing this, it's NSA or whoever you work for, or some contractor, and it's your job.
You are a traitor, right?
I agree.
The standard operating procedure, you see it when they drop words, create a case, because what happens is there's a lot of people in the audience that can't handle it.
It's like on the station.
Oh, hold on, hold on.
Dude, wait, wait, wait.
It just went away.
I'm not joking with you.
It literally just stopped.
That's wild.
That's wild.
I have a lot of, yeah.
Okay.
So let's get back to the, to the Sweetwater bar in 2006.
And these gentlemen, these salt of the earth Americans, you know, these guys are just the coolest, chillest grandpas, you know, like 70 or whatever.
And they've got their baseball caps on and they're dressed, they got their jeans and they're, you know, just, just three cool guys.
So the guy goes, Where'd you go to school?
When I said, I do physics and I'm expecting the guy to go, well, whatever, you know, I thought maybe they're construction workers or guys, you know, and that physics is not their thing.
No, but the guy goes, where'd you go to school?
I say, MIT.
The next thing he says is, so what do you think about the 9-11?
And I, and at the time I just, I regurgitated the Nova special.
I just, I said, what do you, I kind of looked at him funny and I said, well, the planes hit the buildings and they, Melted to steel.
I've just repeated what the television told me.
And the guy looks at me and he asked a rhetorical question.
And he says, do you know what we do?
And by the way, he introduced his buddies.
He goes, I'm, you know, whatever, Bob and Steve and Peter.
Okay.
This is Bob and Peter.
These guys have known each other since college.
They all went to college.
And it turns out, he goes, do you know what we do?
Rhetorical question.
I go, well, no, he goes, we build skyscrapers.
So it turns out, and then he says, you will never, nowhere in the world are you going to see more, more lifetime experience building skyscrapers than us.
Cause it's over, you know, between the three of us, it's over a hundred years experience.
So these guys were, and that's Mill Valley, that's across the Golden Gate Bridge from, it's Billionaireville, right?
There's a lot of super, super successful rich people that live in beautiful Marin County.
It's called Marin County.
So who are these guys?
Turns out, these are the guys that own the companies that build the West Coast.
You know, because remember, I remember as a kid when I looked at When I was a little kid, I remember looking at San Francisco and there was just one high-rise.
It was the Bank of America building.
So if you think about San Francisco, LA, Phoenix, Portland, Seattle, you name it.
These guys built all those tall buildings.
That's their company.
So then he used a little bit of salty language.
I won't use that.
And he goes, you know what we did on 9-11?
We called each other and we said, Quote, you know, impossible.
That's impossible.
What we just saw, that can't happen.
It's physically impossible.
Anyways, he says, and then he says to me, because I gave him the, he says, you know, we've been building, that's what we did.
Now you're a physicist and an engineer from MIT.
You should know better.
You, you need to go look at what happened.
You need to go look at the evidence.
Stop believing what the television tells you.
Okay.
Now, that's kind of what happened there.
And I was having cognitive dissonance because it was absolutely clear.
And so I'm just shortening the interaction that happened there.
But these guys were extremely erudite.
They were obviously, they were.
They built skyscrapers.
That's what, you know, they were skyscraper engineers.
And not only engineers, they were the guys that ended up owning the companies and running the companies.
So I remember driving home, because I lived in the East Bay, which is, you know, that's about a 40-minute drive home.
I'm driving across the bridge, the Richmond-San Rafael Bridge, and I distinctly remember thinking to myself, oh my God, what's the world coming to?
Here are these guys, and they must be these kind of hippie dudes that smoke pot and sit around in hot tubs, and they're just a bunch of commies.
I mean, I remember thinking this!
And I went home, and I went to Google, and my idea was, I just want to know what kind of goofy information these guys can be so screwed up to believe this conspiracy theory, right?
Okay.
It took me three days.
And there were videos, okay?
And I remember, three days later, walking around my house, And just in a daze and saying, Oh my God, they blew up those buildings.
You see?
Okay.
And that was my awakening.
It was incredible.
And then you have to understand because it's physics, it's engineering.
The World Trade Center buildings, buildings one and two and seven, um, were without question.
I mean, there's no, uh, anybody who turns off their, their, their, their, their hypnotic programming, right?
And looks at the evidence, it is 100% clear that they were taken down by controlled demolition.
And then when your brain starts to think about how, what that takes, I mean, it takes months and planning and everything.
And not only that, very sophisticated.
It was done in a very sophisticated way, right?
Very sophisticated way.
So then you ask yourself, how, how, who, how, why?
How did this happen, and how could I be so mind-controlled that I didn't recognize that right off the bat, and that it took me, you know, five years, 2006, etc., etc.
Anyway, that's the 9-11 story, and that began my awakening about how And it's my own saying, we live in an ocean of lies.
Like a fish is in the ocean, you know?
Like, it doesn't know about the water around it.
It's just, it's swimming around, right?
We live in an ocean of lies.
Most, almost everything that you've been taught, which is very, causes total cognitive dissonance.
We live in a system of psychopathic – because, by the way, it's the modus operandi of a psychopathic narcissist or any narcissist.
They're pathological liars, and they're very good at it.
And so it turns out that that – so then you find out that, wow, the whole world is run by these psychopaths.
Disturbed people who, by the way, they wear a very good mask.
They seem like they're completely successful and normal, but they're not.
It's called cluster B. Anyway.
Okay, so we're hitting a break.
I want to say, yes, these guys are control freaks who get off on having secret knowledge, right?
And they, and they, that's how they operate.
And what you just pointed out is, is, is incredible observation.
And when we come back, I'm hoping that you'll take us into, you know, your experience in another revelation about the moon landing.
So I'm excited.
This is going to be fun.
But again, you have the floor, sir.
So you're going to take us wherever you want to go.
We're just sitting along for the ride.
Everybody stay tuned.
If you want to hear more from Alexander Mayer, yeah, you're going to want to keep it tuned in here, locked in.
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Welcome back to Just Form Talk Radio.
I'm your host, Craig James, with Nick Ngo and our guest today, Alexander Mayer, an MIT-trained NASA scientist who is breaking down some very interesting things for us.
He just went through how he was awakened by the truth about 9-11.
And now, sir, we're just going to turn the floor back over to you because this story is so fascinating that whatever direction you want to take us, I know we're all strapped in and ready for the ride.
All right.
Well, thank you.
And thank you for your for this opportunity to speak.
And I just want to talk to whoever might listen to this now or in the future.
It's very, it doesn't matter who you are.
You know, as soon as you think of yourself as being important, that's a delusion.
Nobody, the President of the United States or the captain of the football team that wins the Super Bowl or a gold medal, it doesn't.
We live in a world of 8 billion people and all you have to do is look at YouTube and just One of my favorite things about YouTube is all the lovely people you get to meet.
These wonderful, so talented, I love, and then there's these people that rescue dogs, and then there's artists, and then there's incredible people who can do incredible athletic things, and they're just random people, they're not famous or anything.
And there's so many wonderful people out there, and they all have these different skills, and then there's pilots and what have you.
And you're not important.
I don't care who you are.
I don't care how many billions of dollars you have or how you're, if you think you're important, you're delusional.
And in fact, you're mentally ill.
That's my, that's my soapbox for the moment.
You're not important.
You're, you're, you're, you're a little cell contributing to this, to humanity.
So stop thinking you're important because you're, that's mental illness.
Okay.
So there you go.
All right.
So, uh, There I am.
So in turn, you wanted to know about the Apollo thing.
So of course, I was a, you know how it was, the ocean of lies, step by step.
But the last, the last, you know, thing that happened to me was, I still believe, of course, we went to the moon, you know, as even 10 years ago, right?
If somebody came up to me 10 years ago and said, we didn't go to the moon, it was instantaneous.
It's like, you know, when the doctor hits your knee with a little hammer to test your reflexes.
It was a reflex.
It was like, that guy's stupid.
And he's kind of, and he's a conspiracy theorist.
And of course we went to the moon.
Don't be stupid.
You know, and like, you know, whatever.
And that was my reaction to the whole, because of course we went to the moon.
Okay.
But then it's, you know, because the whole ocean of lies thing.
So finally what happened was, again, I did the, I turned off my emotions.
I turned and I, I became a, it's called, you know, you're cold.
You look at it cold.
What are the facts?
What is the evidence?
All of your preconceived ideas have to go away and you start from scratch.
And it was literally embarrassing, right?
It is so obvious when you look at the evidence, as a scientist, which means no emotion, no preconceived ideas, the facts speak for themselves, it is so embarrassing because it's completely obvious that no one ever went to the moon.
It's completely obvious.
In fact, the idea that in 1969 through 1972 or whatever, that we went to the moon with the Apollo program is ludicrous.
And the fact that I, with all of my training and all of my knowledge, did not see that Immediately, or along the way, right?
For whatever.
Because I remember watching it when I was 5.
I was 5, 1969.
I remember watching it on TV, on the old black and white TV.
And then going through high school, and MIT, and working at NASA, and, you know, and doing my thing.
And it never, because it was, it was a hypnotic, you know, it was truth.
Right?
So, but here's an interesting anecdote.
In 1984, the summer of 1984, when I was 20 years old and working at NASA, you know, it was, you know, call it a God thing or whatever.
So I'm on, I'm crossing the street in Washington, D.C.
because I went, you know, for the weekend, I'm there, whatever.
And there's this very well-dressed, very sophisticated-looking elderly gentleman.
When I say elderly, I'm 60 now, right?
At the time, I was 20, so the guy was like 60, 65, somewhere around there.
And we met at the corner, at the red light.
And again, somehow or other, we started a conversation and I talked about how I worked at, and I was very proud of the fact that I worked at Goddard Space Flight Center.
I'm a NASA engineer, you know, at such a young age.
And then I go to lunch with the guys that put us on the moon, literally, because we went to, it was called The Farm.
It was this little restaurant outside of Goddard Space Flight Center.
And so we started talking for about 10 minutes.
He engaged me in conversation.
So who was this guy?
He was the chief librarian of the Library of Congress.
That's who this guy was!
And, you know, if you think about it, who does research at the Library of Congress?
And the answer is everybody.
NSA, CIA, military intelligence, Pentagon, Congress, Congressional, everybody.
So if you're the chief librarian and you've been working there for 40 years, you know everybody and everything.
That guy is a very, very special human being, you know?
Here's what happens at the end of the conversation.
He stopped for me.
We didn't cross the street.
We talked for 10 or 15 minutes.
And I remember distinctly what he said.
He said, young man, we live in an interesting world.
Books are no longer relevant.
Something like that.
I'm paraphrasing a little bit.
But the next thing he said was, this is verbatim.
He said, we live in a world where if it happened on television, it happened.
And if it didn't happen on television, it didn't happen.
It was very nice to meet you.
You know, whatever, shook my hand and walked away.
I mean, we just got to leave him with these cliffhangers.
I mean, this is amazing.
I am literally sitting on the edge of my seat right now, and I know everybody out there listening is too.
We're hitting another break.
We're going to come back.
We have a short segment, then we'll hit another break, and then we'll come back in an hour or two, but we're just going to keep giving the floor back to you, Alex, because I think These stories just get better and better.
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We are joined by Alexander Mayer, who is telling us his incredible story.
We just finished his interaction with the Chief Librarian from the Library of Congress, which I've seen in person is one of the most incredible things I've ever seen.
I saw the Gutenberg Bible, I saw these incredible collections, but the piece of Wisdom that he imparted upon you was so profound in what he said to you, Alex, in that, you know, books are relevant, and if it's not on TV, then it doesn't matter.
That's just, it resonates so closely with how I've grown up to perceive the world now, but a fascinating, fascinating observation.
Alex, we got about, I don't know, let's see, three or four minutes before our last commercial break of this hour, and then we have another hour where we're gonna, you know, open up the floor, you're gonna keep going.
So whatever you can fit in that time, go ahead and let us know.
It's like, you ever read one of those books and you can't wait to get to the next chapter?
That's like every time we hit a commercial break with you, my friend.
Are you there, Alex?
Alright.
Alright.
I guess if I've got three minutes, Let's talk about God, because one of the big things is that we're living in a world in which scientism, okay, not science, if you look in history, the great men of science like Isaac Newton, who, by the way, he makes Albert Einstein look like a, I don't know, not a very smart guy, and the great mathematician,
of history, whose work is eternal.
There is such a thing, like the Pythagorean theorem, A squared plus B squared equals C squared.
Remember the triangle thing, you know?
Well, that's forever.
And by the way, we talk about, like, we name things after people, because the people who, they, well, but those equations, and I wrote a couple that are gonna, they are, there's this thing, it's called an eternal equation.
It means it's forever.
It's because It's God's equation!
It's not yours!
It's the Creator!
The Creator!
It's not you!
Remember we talked about not being important?
All you're doing is shining a light on the creation, whatever it is.
That's what's so crazy is science is the study of creation, of the creator, of God.
In French, the word is Dieu.
In German, it's Gott, with G-O-T-T.
And I guess in Arabic, it's Allah.
It's the same principle.
It's God the Creator, and it's this idea which is very American, which is there are no human authorities.
You know, the President, the General, whoever is, whatever narcissist or psychopathic narcissist or religious leader is saying that they're, you know, they're the authority.
No, they're not.
They're only an authority to the extent that they realistically and accurately reflect God's creation.
There you go.
Whether what they're doing is medical or scientific, or maybe in terms of social organization, and that's this idea we talk about in America, we're one nation under God.
But the key issue is to be very humble about that, to know that sometimes we can make mistakes about what Very well said, my friend.
I appreciate that immensely.
Okay, we're coming right back.
And I'm coming from that position.
I am a genuine scientist.
I don't belong to any religion, but I serve the Lord God, and that's what Jesus asked us to do.
Very well said, my friend.
I appreciate that immensely.
Okay, we're coming right back.
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I'm your host, Craig James.
It's hour two of the Just Form Talk Radio Show.
Of course, we're joined on this tinfoil Friday by our special guest co-host, as usual, Nick Ngo, and we have an incredible guest who's been Taking us down the rabbit hole, he is Alexander Mayer, a MIT-trained NASA scientist whose story is really incredible.
He's had so many great interactions, and he's been awakened to a lot of things through his life, which have really given him a new perspective, I believe, that he's sharing with us.
And we're very lucky and fortunate and blessed to have him.
Alex, I know you had some other directions we were going to go today.
Let's just go right into it.
And Nick, if you have anything, please, Nick, you know, if you have anything.
Yeah, just to follow up on, so I grew up in a, you know, a progressive, whatever you want to call it, atheist family, right?
Yeah, right.
We're too smart to believe in God, you know.
It's just like, you know, Santa Claus or something like that.
And which is very, for this audience, you probably are not familiar with that.
That's a lot of people.
The people that listen, you know, the NPR people, the intelligentsia, the academia, right?
They're so smart, right?
They're so smart.
They're too smart to to think about God and the things that Jesus said, right?
Okay, and I grew up in that family.
However, when I was around 19 years old, you know, and I went to college when I was 17, So right around my second year, so it's turned 18, turned 19.
And I'm a physics guy because I was, I just, I'm, you know, I'm, that's my thing.
The world, the physical world.
Okay.
So here's funny.
You remember in the eighties where there was this discussion about the intelligent design?
And it bent a lot of people.
The scientific community was bent out of shape.
They were like, you know, intelligent design.
Now, if you're a real scientist, and I do, I would call myself a real scientist, in other words, because I try to see things as they are.
By the way, our phones, which are amazing, we call them what?
Smartphones.
We don't call them intelligent phones, right?
We call them smart phones, and then we talk about artificial intelligence.
But the point is, is when we say, we use the word intelligent, we go, hey, you know, Bob, he's a heart surgeon.
You go, well, Bob's intelligent, you know, or somebody who goes on one of those game shows where they ask really obscure questions and they know all that stuff.
We go, well, that guy's very intelligent, right?
Um, or a really good mechanic, you know, there's, or like, oh my God, anybody in the military, like the helicopter guys, the AMPs.
Can you imagine the guys that work on, on, um, you know, Air Force One or Marine One, Marine One's the helicopter for the president.
Can you imagine what those guys know?
How smart they are anyway?
I actually knew a marine aviation mechanic who was one of the smartest guys I ever met.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Oh, exactly.
These people are like, oh, uh, the senior chiefs, by the way, I have a background.
I have a nice little, I have a very interesting background connected with the Navy.
That's a whole other story.
But yeah, the senior chiefs, those guys, those guys that are like 50 and they're specialists, those guys are, they, they're, they're, Unbelievable people in terms of their, and they're very humble.
Anyway, yeah, I love the Senior Chiefs, they're incredible.
All right, so where was I going with this?
Oh yeah, now if you look at the universe, and you look at, I mean, okay, so intelligent doesn't even begin, the word, the correct word is miraculous.
The universe, the design, when there is a design, and by the way there's some stuff in my work that I made a little discovery that's kind of, it's empirical, but it's miraculous!
Intelligence doesn't even begin to describe the design of the universe.
It's totally, it's way beyond.
And so the fact That the science people who are delusional egotists, right, got bent out of shape when people said, hey, you know, it's intelligently designed.
It's not random.
I'm sorry.
I'm being a little bit of a pejorative, but these people are idiots.
I mean, they're just, they're unthinking and I think they're dominated by their, you know, by their ego.
All right, but let's get back to stuff.
Oh, and then speaking of which, now I told you that it's very, very important.
Not to get, uh, not to get, you know, intimidated by the science, the, the graphs and all the math and stuff and my stuff, because it's completely, if you're not familiar, it's like Chinese, right?
It is.
It's the internet.
I'm not gonna lie, that's exactly what I said to Nick when I read that document.
I said, I'm not sure I understand anything here.
Right, right.
Because it is, it's a foreign language.
So don't be, don't feel bad.
And I even put the thing where I said, it's like, I put the Chinese characters and I go, yeah, you need a translation.
So in other words, it takes a lot of effort and some background, and if you can't do it, don't worry about it.
It's like, you know, hey, if I look at Chinese or Arabic or Russian, which is Cyrillic, right?
I have no idea, right?
I'm just like, deer in the head, like, but Go to page 50, the last page.
Just go all the way to the end.
And there's the little rabbit, right?
It's the little rabbit hole.
It says, The Truth.
You click on that.
That takes you online to the page where I talked about Holland Calloway, who was the artist who did the first thing.
And the point is, it states it.
And then down at the bottom, it says, What Happened in 2005-2006 at Stanford University?
And you click on that.
And that takes you to this page where you can, and there's the next, because it's the preamble, and then you click the next button, and it says page 1 of 45.
Okay?
And there's a whole, like, talk about the rabbit hole.
There's page 1 of 45, and there's actually two other documents that are linked to this, which you will find.
But, there's a very, very interesting story that starts on page 38.
So I'm just going to tell you, and that is, it's an amazing story, it happened to me, and it tells you that the universe is very interesting.
Okay.
But let's go back, I just wanted to point that out.
Page 38 of that, that Stanford, that 45 pages that I put online of this whole story about what happened.
So, let's go back to the librarian who basically said, if it happened on TV, it happened, and if it didn't happen on TV, it didn't happen.
Which is this idea of creating reality, right?
Which is a very, very psychopathic, narcissistic sort of tact, you know, the gaslighting and all that.
And what he was trying to tell me is, of course he knew.
Of course he knew that we didn't go to the moon, because he's the guy, right?
He's the chief librarian, he knows everything.
But he knew that he can't tell me that.
He can't say, young man, we didn't go to the moon, because maybe I'll even write a letter and say that there's a crazy man working at the Library of Congress.
But, but 30, you know, 35 years later, when I'm in my 50s, and I look at the evidence, which includes the three and a half hour documentary called American Moon by this Italian guy who did a wonderful job.
And then, and Bart Sabrell, Bart Sabrell, who is a Christian and a good man, and he did another documentary.
And, and I, and those are, all right, I think, are we going to a break?
Yes, we are hitting a break.
So, but this is another great, you know, talk about a page turner.
I'm like waiting for the next chapter.
I can't wait to get to it.
We're going to talk about your revelations about the moon landing.
And I think this is very important for a lot of people out there.
Because, you know, even a lot of our audience probably still think that it all happened.
I mean, and NASA just accidentally threw all the telemetry data in a dumpster and never is to be seen again.
We'll talk about it in a whole lot more.
Everybody stay tuned.
We're coming right back after the break.
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Now, we're joined by our guest host today for Tinfoil Friday, Nick Ngo.
You guys already know him, but we're also joined today by our guest, Alexander Mary.
He's taking us through the rabbit hole, as it were, and he's been giving us a lot of incredible information.
Now, we're about to start I believe your journey into discovering the truth about the moon landing, which I really am one of those people who I was the same way, you know, very skeptical until I started looking at all these strange coincidences.
I looked back at some of the footage.
I looked back at some of the weird things where you have NASA scientists coming out and saying, Oh, yeah, you know, we had all the telemetry data, but we threw it in a dumpster by accident, so it doesn't exist anymore.
And just all of these strange things that just never made sense to me, that led me to question, but I'm kind of of the opinion that, you know, I'm not I'm not a Not a NASA scientist.
I've never been in a spaceship.
I've never gone to space.
I don't know what's up there.
I'm kind of like just open to a lot of different possibilities.
So I'm very curious to hear your story and your take on it.
So Alex, please take the floor and just keep going.
Okay, and I'm just going to pop in an anecdote that came to my mind.
There's probably a lot of listeners that have a military background, and in particular, the Air Force.
And so, when I was 1989, I was 25 years old, and I was working, I was a contractor, I worked on the Brilliant Eyes program.
You can Google that.
And I worked for a wonderful And you can look her up, too.
I knew it.
She was amazing.
She had a stellar career.
Captain Debbie Dexter.
She was my client.
And I wrote software for her for the Brilliant Eyes program.
It's a long story.
And I just remember that I had the privilege of meeting some young officers I just want to tell people that I have, you know, I have this mixed, you know, relationship with this complete admiration, you know, whether it's the, you know, whether it's the Navy.
I don't have too much of a background with the Army.
But, oh, excuse me, except for, of course, my Scoutmaster.
Was the three-star general in the Army, or my assistant scoutmaster.
Yeah, General Lawson.
Yeah, so I have this mixed name where I have this tremendous admiration for the individuals and their abilities in the military, and at the same time, we have a problem with order following.
The key thing in America is that you have to always remember that your oath is to the Constitution.
We are a constitutional republic.
So, you know, technically, although it's so difficult, you know, when somebody gives you an order, that is un, it doesn't, there's a difference between lawful and legal.
You know, I think Martin Luther King said, Remember, everything that Adolf Hitler did was legal, because Germans are very good about that.
They're all about you.
But there's a difference between legal and lawful and, and lawful.
Yeah, You know, maybe Lawful, you need to at least maybe think about Jesus.
I think, you know, I don't know.
Let's let that alone.
All right.
So yeah, the Apollo program.
So you look at the evidence and it's completely obvious.
Now, here's a funny thing.
I recall there was a discussion and there was this British engineer or whatever, but when he was, you know, 20, In 1969, and he, for example, was watching the landing, you know, and it's just how mind works differently.
And Neil Armstrong is talking on the radio about how they're landing the lander, right?
And they're landing on the moon.
And you see the LM, the Lunar Module, right?
If you've ever been to the Smithsonian or if you've looked at it online, I mean, those astronauts are like in a phone booth, basically, and they're right next to the rocket engine, which is whatever.
By the way, I have a page online about this, if you can find it down the rabbit hole.
It's 30,000 pounds of thrust, I believe, which is going to be louder.
Okay, so this engineer immediately, in real time, in 1969, when they're landing on the moon, he says, oh, it's fake.
Because there's no way that you can hear radio traffic of a guy that's a couple meters, at most, away from a 30,000-pound rocket motor.
It's like, if a guy's on the radio and he's right next to a 777 jet engine as it's starting up, are you going to hear anything?
No.
You're not.
And so, there's a guy whose mind works in a different way, where he was completely, like, completely logical, working like a computer, where most people were emotional and were caught up in the moment.
Anyway, there's a good example.
So, yes.
The moon landing was an op.
It was all about the Cold War, and it was about, you know, winning the hearts and minds.
And it was also about a lot of money.
Um, a lot of money, um, going to, you know, basically, uh, you know, if you don't really, but you can excite people and you can get excite the taxpayer and all about how we're going to, you know, it's like, We're the winning team, and look what we're doing, and get them to pay for something, and then the money goes elsewhere.
Anyway.
Let's get back to physics, I guess.
You have to understand that I've had a 20-year process, starting off in 2006, so not quite 20 years, of waking up and removing my sheeple fleece, right?
Because we're getting fleeced, right?
It's just amazing.
Alex, I want to ask you a question because I thought it was fascinating when you told me the story.
You can save it for another time or you can talk about it.
Remember, you were telling me about how in academia you tried to share your discovery with some people and the reaction was over the top.
Right.
Thank you, Nick.
I'm going to get in.
And by the way, all of this stuff is detailed down the rabbit hole.
Everything, with detail, with receipts, emails, conversation, you know, all the details.
So it's all, if you go down that rabbit hole on page 50 of the, remember, for the late listeners, you go, here's the URL, you just go bit.ly, it's a redirect, bit.ly, forward slash, K-H-N-C-O-S-M-O, right?
That's the link.
Correct, Nick?
Did I say that correctly?
That's correct.
That's correct, yeah.
Okay, that's the link that will take you to a PDF.
You need to download it, and I do recommend that you, you know, at the minimum, a tablet.
Better if you have a nice big screen on and actually for those tech those those people out there.
It's really designed for dual screen where you have the PDF on one screen and then the PDF has lots of links.
And then you want, um, and you want to open the links on your other screen.
So if you have a dual screen or if you can work via that's what you want.
All right.
So in that, I was a precocious child.
I think if you, if you've been listening, you know, I was, I definitely, you know, I started working on computers when I was 11, when nobody knew what a computer was.
I was working on what's called a PDP 11 with acoustic coupler.
So, by the time I was 20, I had 8 or 9 years of experience writing software, right, and working on computers.
That's why I got my job at NASA, and I did a good job.
Anyhow, but I already started looking into relativity, which is extremely important.
You know, Einstein's theory of special relativity, which is not—it's called special because it deals with unaccelerated systems.
Constant velocity.
That's the specialty.
Acceleration equals zero.
That's the special case.
Because the general case is that it's not zero.
Acceleration is something else, which is like gravitational acceleration or what have you.
Anyway, so I was looking into relativity at the age of 17, 18, and I already sort of had this intuition that there was something missing in the theory, which is a big deal, right?
Which is kind of, it's kind of goofy for a 19 year old to be, and I wasn't some, what's the word that they use for crackpot, you know, like crackpots.
There are When you don't have the training and you don't have, frankly, you don't have the IQ, it is what it is, right?
It is what it is, right?
You know, if you're if you're five foot five, you're probably not going to be an NBA player.
Well, I mean, not everybody can be a rocket scientist.
Yeah, and the thing is, it doesn't make me special or better.
It doesn't make me better.
It is what it is.
It's like, no, I meant that, you know, not everybody can be a radio show.
Everybody's got their own unique gifts.
Right.
And, um, yeah.
Oh, oh, I have to have this anecdote.
This is very, this is, because I believe in like, what is true?
What is objectively true?
So if you look at like, let's say any country, let's say the United States, and you say, what group of people, what group of people are the most important people in the country?
There's a very easy answer.
And it's completely empirical, meaning it's not my opinion.
It's obvious.
Okay.
And that group of people who are the most important group is truck drivers.
Truck drivers.
Okay.
If you think about it, if you like, go look at your door jam and there's a screw there, like the most obscure thing you can think of.
How did it get there?
It got there on a truck.
Everything in your house down to the littlest thing, everything, all the food, all everything down to, like I said, down to a screw somewhere in your door jam got delivered on a truck.
And so, although as individuals, right?
Can I just say something?
I hate to interrupt you Alex, but the serendipity of all of this is insane.
So, a listener of the show who's a good friend of mine, Kevin, came in today, and he is a truck driver, and he's hanging out with us here in station, and we're just, it's, the fact that you said that, the way his face lit up when you said that, I was just like, oh my gosh, what a serendipitous world we live in.
It is.
Thank you.
Okay, so here's the deal about Truckgate.
As a group, do you know how the world is built on layers?
Okay, so if you look at the human body, what By the way, I have a first responder background.
I have an EMT training, right?
What's the first thing that's important?
You stop the bleeding.
Blood.
Because the blood, right?
The red blood cells, and there's a zillion of them, right?
But that's the foundation of your life, right?
The red blood cells do what?
They deliver oxygen Dr. Justin Marchegiani to all the parts of your body.
So they have to pick up the oxygen and then they get it.
They got to travel through your artery and then they have to go deliver the oxygen and then they have to come back and then they do that, right?
Well, that's a truck driver and and without blood, you're dead.
And with that's right.
So all the other stuff that looks, you know, like what?
Yeah, of course, like sort of the hospital.
But the hospital ain't doing nothing without truck drivers.
Think about it.
The food distribution network.
Truck drivers are the blood of the nation.
And so, in my opinion, we should have, you know, National Truck Driver Day, where there is a sense of respect and thankfulness for that tough job that those guys do.
Anyway, I love truck drivers.
So there you go.
All right.
Where am I going with this?
All right.
So, I'm 19.
That anecdote was this idea that, yeah, you have to be a smart guy, but it's just people are kind of smart to be 19 and questioning Einstein's theory of relativity.
But I was that goofy kid, right?
But not in a bad way.
I was.
That's who I was.
So there's this thing, and by the way, it's all documented.
So I go to a professor of theoretical physics at MIT, and I'm 19 years old.
And we have this thing called Independent Activities Period, IAP, where you can do, for a month, you can study whatever you want, but you need a sponsor.
So I go to this guy and I say, you know what?
I've been looking at the theory of relativity and there seems to be an opportunity to look at this in a geometric way, or whatever.
And it was my first experience where, by the way, and now I know it, it's called, it's weird, it's called narcissistic rage.
And these people, and I guess we're going to a break, but this guy just lost it.
Instead of going, Oh, well, yeah, you know, man, let's do this.
He shoved me, by the way, physically pushed me out of his office.
And he was like, shouting at me.
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Alex, you know, you're telling this incredible story, and you were just saying that, you know, you're challenging these theories that are well established in this scientific community, and the pushback that you're receiving is incredible and immense, and I want you to keep going on Your story, but let's try to really hyper-focus on the discoveries that you're basically making with this.
Right, okay.
So, yes, and remember that when it comes to science or anything else, Jesus taught us, we are humble before God only.
You are not humble towards anybody.
You are humble towards God.
And it's a big mistake, because there's a lot of these psychopathic leaders out there, and you're not supposed to be humble towards those people.
Now, not at all.
You should feel pride in yourself, and power in yourself, and your relationship with God.
Right?
Anyway, there you go.
Alright, because that's the thing.
These professors, these experts, these people who say that they're the authority, and you're not allowed to challenge them.
Um, you know, we, we noticed that during COVID, right?
All these doctors and, and, and, and leaders, they were, they're false authorities.
All right.
So, yeah.
So, what happens is, and again, everything is written down for you in that rabbit hole.
It's quite a story.
It is quite amazing.
And there are receipts, so it's just not me telling tales.
There's proof, alright?
And they'll probably make a movie about this one day.
Alright.
So I'm in Alaska.
What ended up after that whole, the brilliant eyes program, actually the thing that I was working on, I got recruited to go up to Alaska and work for Atlantic Richfield for Arco Alaska.
And I had my own little country, you know, anyway, but remember I'm, so I'm, I'm, I'm writing software to make a living, but I'm, I'm obsessed.
Really.
It's an obsession.
It's like people like to play golf.
People like to paint, whatever.
I'm a, I'm a physics guy.
And, um, So I went back, and I was particularly with what's called the General Theory of Relativity, which is the theory of gravity that Einstein came up with that was the extension of special relativity.
And I started looking into that, and I had some very, very deep intuitions that went all the way back to being 17, 18 years old.
And I made, long story short, so you can read the whole story, and I made this discovery that took me some years to do, that time, that the timeline, okay, the timeline that we think about, we think about time in a linear fashion, we think about like a line, one line, And it turns out, and I know, by the way, you know the Flatters thing?
I don't know if any of you've been.
That's like the Apollo program.
It's a CIA op, to confuse people.
Because what happened was, people discovered that we didn't go to the moon, that the Federal Reserve is a private bank.
That, um, John F. Kennedy was killed by the CIA, et cetera, et cetera.
So all these truths, right?
So then what, what is, it's called counterintelligence.
You got too many people figuring out what's true.
So what you do is you hire shills.
Okay.
These are professionals, professionally trained, and you can tell because if you look at them, um, the videos online about the flatter, these are not Joe in his backyard, you know, in his garage.
These are very sophisticated, um, you know, Very well-financed program that they've put together.
And what it is, is that the shill will say, yeah, you know what?
The Federal Reserve is a private bank.
It's a secret.
And we didn't go to the moon.
And all these things are true.
And then they'll add that, and then they'll add, and the world is flat.
Which is nonsense.
Because gravity is what's called a conservative force, and it creates round things.
That's what it does, okay?
So the world is round, and the point is, is where I'm going with this, is that when you think the world is flat, the key issue is that you think that gravity points in the same direction in space everywhere, right?
So if the world was flat, which is ridiculous, because that's not how gravity works, because gravity makes things come together into a ball.
If you think about the flatter, if you think about the gravitational gradient, that's when you take your keys and you drop them and you watch them hit the ground, right?
And they go down.
Or a plumb line, if you build anything, right?
And you want something straight up and down, you hang a lead weight from a string, right?
And that gives you an absolutely perfect line that's called the plumb line, right?
It's parallel to the gravitational gradient.
And the key issue is what we know is that when you go, it turns out like about 30 meters, you know, 30 yards about, that's one second of arc.
And one second of arc is one 3,600th of a degree.
And by the way, maybe you've heard of nautical miles.
I talk about what's special about a nautical mile.
Because when you're on the ocean, right, you're going around the globe, and you have latitude and longitude are in degrees, right?
Degrees.
Degrees around the circle because the globe is a globe, right?
So it turns out that 60 nautical miles is one degree in latitude going north and south because it's a little bit different going east to west because of the Earth.
Anyway, so it turns out here, where am I going with this?
It's amazing.
Just like people, by the way, 2,500 years ago in the Greeks or whatever, they thought the Earth was flat, right?
But then the Greeks figured out that it was round.
That has to do with this little experiment they did in Alexandria.
But the point is that it turns out for the 21st century, which is right now, and the listeners here, you're participating in history because this is a big deal.
Because what we have found, what we as a human species, and I just happen to be the guy that sort of worked on it, but that's not that important, is that time is like, it has multiple directions, just like the gravity around the Earth.
Like, I'm here right now, I'm talking to you from Argentina.
I'm in Argentina right now.
So, when I drop my keys in Argentina, you know, in the Southern Hemisphere, and you drop your keys over in Colorado, they're not dropping in the same direction in space, obviously.
You can go look at a globe, which is a pretty accurate model of the Earth, and you can put toothpicks, right?
One in Argentina and one in Colorado, and they're not pointing in the same direction, right?
They're pointing to this locally, right?
It's like your sense of gravity over there in Colorado when you drop your keys is just the same as mine in Argentina.
Locally.
But if you have a bigger perspective.
Anyway, it turns out that time in the universe is just like that.
It's weird.
When you look far, far away with the space telescope and you see a galaxy that's really, really far away.
It's weird, it's the way that God made the universe, and by the way, it's amazing when you get into it.
That the time over there, the timeline over there, which is just like, it doesn't point in the same direction in this weird thing called space-time, and that's the discovery and it's And I know, it's deer-in-the-head-like math stuff.
The only way you can work with these ideas is, and I think it was Leonardo da Vinci, perhaps, you know, that said math is the land, or maybe it was Galileo.
Alex, sorry to interrupt you, but what are the implications of this?
I mean, that doesn't fit the model, does it?
So the implication is, and it's a hundred percent, What I'm talking about is, okay, there is such a thing, you know, like we know arithmetic.
When we say that 2, remember there's an infinite number of numbers, and when we say 2 plus 2 is 4, there's no argument.
There's no argument!
2 plus 2 is 4.
There's an infinite number of other possible numbers, but it's not.
It is what it is.
Okay, the universe is not expanding.
That is the key takeaway.
It is 100% certain.
If somebody said, Alex, OK, we're going to go to break.
But if they said, you know, can you bet everything you own?
You know, like, well, stupid.
I don't bet.
I don't gamble.
But yes, it's 100%.
There's no chance that it's wrong.
Yeah, when we come back, I really want to just get your final thoughts on the implications of all that, because it is very, and I understand that what you just said is pretty revolutionary for some people, but we'll try to break it down further.
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And you were talking about this kind of revelation that you've had with relativity, and you were kind of breaking it down.
And the only thing I would ask, I guess, is could you break it down in terms like you're talking to a kid or a child?
Because that's what I'm I'm going to need you to go on this one for me to grasp it.
Okay, we'll go there.
I want to also emphasize that, you know, a lot of people, a lot of the listeners, and, you know, Scripture is important, and we have the Book of Genesis, and, right, so, but if you look at it, here's what I want you to think about.
The Book of Genesis talks about, you know, the creation, the heavens and the earth, which is like, you know, the heavens is like the atmosphere that keeps us alive and everything like that.
But it does not talk about the creation of the universe.
And here it is.
God is the creator, right?
God is the creator of the universe, the whole ball of wax, right?
So if God is the creator and the universe is his physical creation of everything, do you really think he was on vacation for eternity and then one day he's like, hey, I'm going to make the universe?
No, it doesn't work that way.
If the universe is the physical expression of God's creation, and God does not have a birthday, right?
There is no beginning of God.
That's the fundamental definition of the Creator.
It transcends time.
You know, I have a saying, time is God's domain.
That's my own quote.
That's a very good thing.
Time is God's domain.
So, the universe, it being an expression of physical reality, you know, of God, and if God does, is infinitely, does not exist outside of time, so does the universe.
Anyway, and that's what we've discovered.
Science and, science, and I won't say religion, I'll say science and God have to be the same thing.
Alright, so where are we going to go with this?
Yes!
So what happened was, and it's all, again, If you go down that rabbit hole, everything you need to know is all written down, so everything is there, and it's a lot of material, it'll take you some time.
Alex!
Alright, so let's talk about the James Webb Space Telescope.
Yeah, the James Webb Space Telescope, because now there's no, these people, the top people, and you'll find out.
The top people in the world have known, you know, absolutely certainly since 2010.
But it started at Stanford when they threw me out in 2006.
That's all documented in the whole story.
It's completely obvious.
And then they started obscuring or whatever.
James Webb Space Telescope is able to look at the far reaches of the universe because it's using infrared.
And that's this idea that those light waves can go around the dust.
And so what you're supposed to be looking at is baby galaxies.
They even used that term back in like You know, about 10 years ago, they would talk about how, you know, at the beginning of the Big Bang, there's these baby galaxies that now, then it takes time.
So what does the James Webb telescope, when it's looking at redshift 789, which is the edge of what we, you know, that's the, quote unquote, the beginning of the universe.
What does it see?
It sees geriatric galaxies, like really old galaxies, which we can tell because of the star, that there's old stars and there's a lack of gas and dust.
It's very, very, and they're gigantic, right?
So it's the same thing as if I say I'm going to take you to the kindergarten institution.
You know, I started a nursery school and I go, let's go look at, let's take a, you want to buy this nursery school?
I'm going to sell this nursery school.
So I take you to the nursery school and you walk around and there's everybody's in their nineties and eighties.
So in other words, it's the opposite.
It's an old folks home, right?
That's what they're seeing.
I want to ask you, so in regards to stars, for people who don't know, stars have a life cycle and, for example, the red giants and things like that don't happen until they're in later stages, right?
Correct.
And we now, there's a life cycle of galaxies too.
Basically, as you will read down the rabbit hole, which again, it's really great if you're, like I said, do not be intimidated by the technical stuff and the graphs and the math.
Um, because if it's not for you, it's not just like, Hey, Arabic, not for me.
Doesn't mean a dang thing to me.
If I look at Arabic, it looks cool, right?
But I have no idea what it means.
So if you're looking at my stuff and you're looking at those graphs and you're looking at the math and it means nothing to you, don't worry about it.
That's what I eat right at the very beginning.
I say here with Chinese characters, if it doesn't mean something to you, if it's too much, don't bite the rabbit hole.
Now that's that stuff you can relate to.
It's a great story.
Like I said, it's probably worthy of a film script at some point in the future because it's pretty cool.
All right.
So we got two minutes, and we always do our final segment is our God's greatest segment.
So, look, obviously we're going to have to bring you back on, Alex.
This is not two hours.
It's just not enough for us to get even close to the information that you have to share.
And that's good.
That's a good thing.
So we'll have to make that a priority to get you back on soon.
But Uh, if you had a minute to give your final thoughts, like summarize it all in whatever way you want and give any information out as to where if you want people to follow you or check out your information or whatever social media, you know, this would be your time to put that out there.
My website is sensibleuniverse.net, but, you know, if you just type in Alex Mayer, it's M-A-Y-E-R, and then the word physics or cosmology, you'll see, I think my website's almost always the first hit.
And I will try, remember that the truth Time and the truth is God's domain and then it's so weird for me, it's so strange this idea that there are people out there and they're misguided and they're, you know, literally they're the enemies of God.
It's so strange because you can't, you're not going to win.
You're not going to win if you're the enemy of God.
And science has to understand that it's not about your ego or your creativity.
You're only discovering, you're only shedding light on what's already there.
And so it's so important to be humble towards God.
I know it sounds crazy.
By the way, you know that I would be just in a university.
Academia is so degenerate right now.
And you will read about it.
Well, I mean, look at the college campuses.
Look at these kids.
I mean, yes, we all we all see that.
But they're misguided.
No, I know.
I know.
I feel I'm not saying that they're not misguided.
I'm just saying that that it's the professors.
It's a whole thing coming down the line.
Commies infiltrated.
Commies, yeah.
You know, I'm into aviation.
I flew airplanes up in Alaska.
And, you know, if you mess with somebody's GPS system, you know, people depend on GPS, and you put a magnet somewhere in the cockpit with the compass, the pilot is going to be in trouble.
And that's what the problem is.
These kids, these poor kids.
You'll read about it.
My case.
These academics are degenerate and systemic.
And they're communists!
Alright, so Alex, thank you so much.
We're going to bring you back on the other side of the final segment, just to give a very quick, brief, final thought, and then we'll do our God's Greatest Creator segment.
Stay tuned!
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So we have our last segment.
It's our very last segment.
So really quickly, could you just say your website again so people can check it out, Alex?
And we're going to have to just let it be there and then we'll bring you back again and do this all over again so we can go into more topics and dive deeper on other things.
Okay, my website is SensibleUniverse.net.
And I actually, it doesn't matter whether you do .com, .net, .org, I got them all.
Sensible Universe.
And that will, that's my website, that's my, it's not a very sophisticated, I wrote it all in HTML, so it's not sophisticated or whatever, but it's got all the information that you would want.
And by the way, If you're a listener and you have a friend or a brother-in-law or somebody who's a nerd, I mean, we use that word.
I use that word in the most friendly way.
Those kids that are good at math, right?
And they love that stuff more than, I don't know, trucks or something.
Although I love my Ford F-150.
I've got a 94 F-150.
That's my car.
That's my truck.
Anyway, if you can send them to that website, and actually, remember, the cool thing that sort of leads into everything, it's the new thing that I did, is what you may have online.
It's bit.ly.
Um, forward slash and the radio station.
KHNC OSMO.
Go check that out, folks.
Cosmo, like cosmology, right?
So K-H-N-C, K-H-N-C, K-H-N-Cosmo.
K-H-N-C-Cosmo.
Colleagues, I'm sorry.
We're just, the time is, you know, with live radio, it's just tough.
I understand.
Yeah, we appreciate having you on.
We're going to make sure we get you back on because I know we want to keep going.
There's a lot more to cover there.
Really quick though, I want to bring on Kevin.
Kevin, say hello to everyone.
Good morning, folks.
How y'all doing this morning?
So Alex, this is our truck driver friend who came here from Tennessee to hang out with us today at the station.
So he's been hanging out here listening to you.
And it was by complete happenstance that you said, talked about Truck Driver's Day.
So I just thought it'd be cool to bring him on here for the last segment.
Say hello.
Thank you, Kev.
Love and respect for the very important work that you do.
And I have, oh, I have a story about About me and, oh, and my neighbor.
He was an independent with a reefer.
And by the way, reefer means a refrigerated truck, and I rode shotgun with him.
Well, I got stories about me and trucks.
Wow.
All right, I guess we should end with a prayer.
Well, what we're going to do is We're going to end with a prayer after we do our Grace is Greater segment.
So today's verse is from Genesis chapter 1.
It goes directly into what we were talking about.
And I'm just going to read verse 1.
It says, In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
And we will wrap it up with a quick prayer.
Lord and Heavenly Father, we give you such thanks that you've been here with us throughout this conversation.
I pray that everyone out there listening will find the discernment to understand what we've been talking about, and that we ourselves will find discernment in our lives and what we do.
And God, we give you all the praise, all the glory, and we pray all this in the name of your Son, our Lord Jesus Christ.
Amen.
Amen.
And hallelujah.
Hallelujah.
Amen.
Alex, man, we gotta have you back on.
How are you?
I'm doing great.
Hey, Kevin.
Hey, Nick.
How are you today?
I'm doing great, man.
I'm glad you came up to visit.
Yeah.
This is so cool.
All right.
I wish we had more time for you on air, Kevin, but you got the gist of it.
You're here.
You're hanging out.
He's in the studio over there.
He's got the mic.
He's got the setup.
So he's hanging.
Alex, brother, we're going to get you back on soon.
I promise.
Well, it was such a pleasure.
Thank you for what you do.
Thank you for serving our country.
You're serving.
You're serving the Lord.
You're serving our country.
Thank you for what you do.
Thank you.
Thank you for what you do.
I mean, look, we all are in this together, and if we all come together and put Christ at the forefront of our lives, there is nothing we can't do.
And I know that's a double negative, but it's true.
So everybody, thanks for everybody listening.
We'll see you guys on Monday.
Thanks to everybody here, all the texters, everyone.