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June 14, 2022 - Just Informed Talk - Craig James
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Former NSA Analyst Breaks Down TRUTH on Jan. 6th, 2000 Mules, And Much More | JustInformed Talk #001
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Hi and welcome to another episode of Just Informed Talk.
Let's see, we have joining us today a very special guest from the Digital Soldier Network, none other than Jeff Dow.
He's a former NSA analyst.
He has a lot to say and we're glad to have him on the show.
So without further ado, let me just bring him on.
Alright, here he is.
Welcome, welcome Jeff to the show.
What's up, Craig?
Thanks for having me on, brother.
Absolutely.
So, you know, this is going to be an interesting show because this is my first live stream while recording on a brand new platform that I've never used as far as a talking platform.
So I'm going to have to kind of jump between here and the chat to see and make sure everybody can hear us well and everything else.
But other than that, I want to say welcome to the show.
Now, can we start by doing something pretty simple?
Basically, for the audience out there, for my audience who doesn't know you, which it probably is not that many.
I bet a lot of my audience is very aware of your work.
You've been doing amazing work for a long time now.
You have a channel over on Foxhole called Digital Soldier Network that everybody should go try out if they haven't yet.
But tell everybody your story, who you are, how you got to where you're at, and what you're doing now.
Yeah, yeah.
Let's hope I can switch cameras.
I guess we'll go with this one instead.
Yeah, first off, thanks again for having me on.
I know we've been friends for the last couple years or so.
I think we met Red Pill Roadshow.
We just had some mutual overlap.
Because I did ten and a half years in the military.
I worked originally at NSA Hawaii, and then I got out to a ship out of Virginia.
And then that was cool.
Saw my first foreign countries from that duty station.
And then I got stationed down here at SOCOM. So I got to work with the elite of the elite, if you will.
I try to be very...
Intentional.
A lot of people hear SOCOM, but they don't realize where or more so.
They think that I was a SEAL. I wasn't.
I worked with them.
I was Intel.
I tell people all the time, they kick down doors.
We just tell them which door to kick down and who's on the other side, figuratively speaking.
I was a signals analyst, data analyst.
2,000 mules is very much kind of my mindset.
That type of stuff is what I did at SOCOM before I left.
Understanding metadata.
I just talked about this on my show last night.
Data about data.
That's the fun stuff that I like.
Out in Hawaii, I was a Morse code operator.
So what we call a ditty bopper.
That is still a thing.
It is still used.
The more advanced we get, the...
Other countries think that we've moved past it, so they feel more comfortable to use it, and we still have the ability to collect on it.
Then, yeah, I got out of the military November 14th, 2016, was paying attention to politics at that point, and then I'd say 2020, I think June 1st, so we just hit my two-year anniversary.
June 1st, I started my first show.
People told me to start a show.
I didn't know that anybody would listen.
But my whole show is focused primarily on educating we the people.
My favorite Bible passage specifically on that is Hosea 4-6.
My people perish for lack of knowledge.
I don't believe that we have the knowledge to make the decisions that we need to make in regards to politics.
So my whole focus has been teaching people how to do Actual vetting of candidates with money flow, if they're in office, how they voted, and then their media, social media.
And outside of that, I constantly interview candidates on the show, regardless of where they live, how big or how small the race is, because I think all of them are important for us to learn and understand.
Wow.
See, and that's exactly it right there, man.
I mean, a man of many talents, humble nonetheless.
And, you know, look, I think it's a great thing to have you on the show because there's so many different avenues that we can go down as far as breaking down information that, you know, is a part of this very important movement that we are all in together.
We need people like you who understand the metadata and analytics and all of that.
We need people like me who, you know, just talk for a living.
So it's like you need a little bit of everything and it's good to have you on.
So I guess one of the things that we should do, really quick, I'm going to jump over and look at the foxhole where we're at.
Let's see what everybody's doing here.
Uh, is anybody so far so good?
You got this.
Oh, we love Jeff.
All right.
So this is good.
So now everything.
Yeah.
We got a lot of cool people here.
Thanks to everybody showing up.
It sounds like it's all coming through very well.
So with that being said, all right, let's talk about a few different things here.
Where do you want to start?
I mean, Greg Phillips would be a great place to start.
What are your thoughts on 2,000 Mules and his work that he's been getting into with tracking the geo-tracking data and everything else?
How would you respond to people in Congress, especially those in the January 6th?
Bill Barr?
Yeah, Bill Barr, the January 6th committee, Liz Cheney and the rest who are dismissing this completely out of hand.
What is your take on his research and 2,000 Mules as a documentary from the perspective of somebody who understands very well the kind of work Greg is getting into?
So, first off, if you know Greg, I reached out to Catherine Engelbrick on, I think it was Truth, somewhere.
I said, hey, I didn't even know that we could get access to that data.
If that data is available for here in Florida, I would like to know how to get it if it's free.
I don't have the money for it.
But I would love to see that data because it is that fine-tuned platform.
I know a lot of people are on the fence of like, where is Bill Barr overall?
Is he playing a role?
Is this just for optics?
Look, anybody, I'm not going to say the full phrase that my football coach used to say, but he used to say, you can crap in one hand.
I'm sorry, you can hope in one hand and crap in the other, and only one of them is going to fill up.
So, while you're waiting for Blar to reveal that he's the good guy, I'm going to assume that he has no clue what he's talking about.
Because I listened to him yesterday, or whatever that clip was.
Yeah, it was yesterday.
Oh my god.
All these days blend together right now.
Bill Barr, I played this on my show last night.
Bill Barr, and if you're familiar with Darren Beattie of Revolver, they both talked about the 2000 Mules.
And the difference is Darren Beattie has a better understanding, yet he told you he doesn't fully understand it.
Bill Barr comes across as if, well, I didn't really see all of the data.
Uh...
There wasn't enough there to really, you know, I was kind of, it was lackluster.
Then you have no idea what you're talking about, Bill Barr.
And I'm not trying to say, oh, you know, the data is the proof.
It actually kind of is.
And here's why.
Because the way your phone works, there's a number.
When I talk about metadata, that term just means data about data, right?
I don't need to see your text messages.
I don't need to see your phone calls.
I don't need to see any of that stuff to be able to figure out what we call POL, your pattern of life.
I can figure out your BDL, your bed down location.
All of these things come because your phone is constantly looking for a signal.
So your phone is always doing what's called a three-way handshake.
And for people like, can you say all?
It's all open source.
Go Google it.
You figure out how phones work.
But it's called a three-way handshake, right?
So every phone number belongs to a base station somewhere in the country, a specific, you know, base, a tower base.
Your phone number belongs there.
And we don't really see a lot of these issues anymore because technology's got so good that roaming technically doesn't exist anymore.
Roaming, back in the day, they could tell that you were roaming because of this three-way handshake.
So your phone is always trying to make a connection to the towers.
If you think about cell towers...
If this is the tower, the goal is not just to be within the close range of the tower.
If you're in too close, you end up having an umbrella effect where you're in too close to even get the signal.
So the way cell towers work is kind of like a honeycomb.
They put them on the outsides so that there's overlap and you have a better cell coverage.
So as your phone is constantly trying to make a connection, have you ever been somewhere where your signal's not good?
It's just complete garbage.
Like, wait, I'm from Maine.
If you go deep enough into the woods, you don't get a signal.
What do you notice about your battery in that time frame?
I don't know.
Tell me.
It dies quicker, right?
Generally speaking, if you don't have as good of a signal, your phone is constantly trying to ping.
It's trying to constantly find a connection.
So it'll ping a lot more than it will if it has a connection.
So it does something, like I said, the three-way handshake.
It's kind of like, hey!
Hey!
Hey!
And it's constantly just sending out a message.
And all of a sudden, a tower picks it up.
It's like, oop, got a new guy.
Okay, gotcha.
Boom.
I'm going to send this back.
And the tower's like, the message that the phone gets back is, hey, phone, I'm the tower.
I got you loud and clear.
Send me your info.
And then the phone goes, okay, tower, I'm so glad that you reached out.
I'm being, like, super theatrical right now.
Oh, it's good.
It's good.
But it's a good way for people to remember it.
And...
So that's the first one, the hey, that's first handshake.
Second handshake is the tower back to the phone.
Third handshake is from the phone back to the tower with the information.
So what it sends in those packets is it'll send its base station where it belongs, and this is how it knows when you're roaming or not roaming.
Again, now roaming, that part's just kind of dropped out, but it knows at the time that you're not near your primary location, and that's how you would get hit for roaming.
What's a bed down location?
That's basically where you live.
That's where you sleep.
Probably more accurate.
I mean, that's what I thought, yeah.
Yep.
So if you think about it, generally speaking, your phone stays with you constantly, right?
So if it's sitting still and not moving, Not, you know, moving out of that general area for collectively six to eight hours, give or take, and on a regular basis at the same location, you can generally assume that that's probably where that person lives or at least where they sleep.
Okay, so here's a really good question, right?
So let me ask you this.
So we have, you know, a lot of people, Sandra Smith on Fox News, it's debunked, you know, and a lot of people...
Yeah, by the Georgia GBI, Georgia Bureau of Investigations, who barely looked at it.
Right, and Bill Barr laughing at it.
And a lot of people are saying that this location data doesn't mean anything, that you can't really draw the conclusions that Dinesh D'Souza did.
But let me ask you this.
It's not to get Jan-6 people wrapped up.
Well, yeah, and I was going to ask you, so if the geolocating data is as accurate as they say it is, How are they going to continue to relegate this and say it's not what it is when we know it is what it is?
So meaning, the question really is, How can we, a lot of us as laymen to this very, very complex technology, how could we say to our friends, family, whoever we're trying to talk to, to explain to them that just because Sandra Smith said it's not true doesn't mean it's not true, and that beside, obviously, the information from the documentary, what could we use as a part of our argument to say that this is what it is?
I try to ask people how to prove that.
How do you know?
Well, Sandra so-and-so, I don't even know that name, by the way.
She's an anchor on Fox News who said it was debunked.
You can tell how often I don't watch Fox.
I mean, I only saw it because it was in an article, and I don't watch Fox News either.
I'm not exposing you, Craig.
Yeah, yeah, no, I secretly watch Fox News.
Oh, no.
I'll use CNN clips.
I used to have a segment on the show called, Wrong People Say Right Things.
Yeah, I mean, I use fake news stuff all the time.
I even play clips from The View, but just to show how ridiculously dumb they are.
Yeah.
Yep.
So to answer your question, what I would do is ask a question.
This is something that I think we all have to get better at.
I see this in my own circles locally.
I see people put stuff out in regards to candidates who are running for office.
And because we trust the source that that came from, being our friend, our family member, we blindly accept it.
And then we go tell that to the next person.
We need to get better at asking the question, do you have the receipts?
Where did they show that?
So Will Sandra Smith said that Georgia Bureau of Investigation said blah, blah, blah.
Okay, have you gone to look at that?
No.
Then you have to put that into the realm of conjecture.
You can't prove it.
If you yourself have not gone and looked at the data, don't accept it as truth.
How many times do we have to be lied to before we finally start to look into this stuff for ourselves?
I'm not telling you...
Don't trust anything.
Well, kind of don't.
But don't blindly trust things.
I don't care.
And I tell people this on my own show.
I don't care how long you've been following my own show.
I drop links throughout my entire show from all the articles and things of which I'm reading because I want you to go read them.
I want you to go look them up for yourself.
Vet this.
I heard a pastor say from a stage in Virginia back in like 2011, 2012.
You should not be trusting the words that I have to say.
And I was like, did he just say that from the pulpit?
And then he doubled down on that.
He said, I am a pastor.
He said, you should go to the source yourself and understand this.
He said, I'm going to put together a message that I think, you know, that God has given me to give to you.
However, he said, you should be reading this for yourself because you never know where my loyalties exist.
If somebody comes in and pulls me aside and I go a totally different direction.
So I thought that was very wise.
And I've kept that.
And I even share that to my own audience.
And what's up, Florida Girl for Trump?
You know what's cool is meeting some of these people in person.
So are you on the chat too?
Yep.
All right, good.
So I was going to jump over there real quick just to see if there's anything worth looking at here as far as questions for you and us.
I told them to try to leave comments if they wanted topics to be covered or anything like that.
Let's see.
Everything looks pretty good, though.
It looks like just a lot of positive vibes here, so I'm all about that.
I can come back on talking about the phone.
When I said that it gives over its information, in addition to the base receiver, it gives a ton of information.
But the other three things, one's your IMEI, that's your actual phone itself.
One's your, what we call an IMSI, your IMSI. That's your SIM card.
And then the third one is your, what we call a MISDN or M-S-I-S-D-N. That's your phone number.
So all those pieces all go up together, right?
So it knows, like that little data gets logged for that tower.
So I literally, if I'm looking at this data, I can tell, you can triangulate because if you're popping off a Every cell tower, if you look up at it, you'll see essentially three sides to it.
This has probably changed since the last time I've looked at it, but all of the three sets, you'll see a double stack, like two what we call blades, and each of those has its own blade number.
So you can tell literally of that tower what side you're standing on because it's going to go direct to that blade.
This is how minute you're able to figure this out.
So when Bill Barr says, well, it's hard to say.
You never know how many people could walk by these, five of them.
Look, they counted that in.
They were very specific about understanding that that would be the case.
The way that they filtered, they put many levels on top of this.
Hey, we only want to count a certain number.
I forget their threshold.
It was like five or eight.
They had to hit this many drop boxes.
And they also had to have been somebody who went to one of these PACs, like a known location to be a political action committee.
Specifically, there's a number of parameters.
So if Bill Barr is simply going by the video alone and he hasn't looked at the data, he has no clue.
And even if he's going by the video, I'm actually very disappointed in seeing how ignorant he actually is.
He's either lying or he's just talking out of his butt because he has no clue what he's talking about.
Wait, or there's a super secret plan that we can't know about that is continuing to happen behind the scenes and that someday, if we're lucky, before we pass away, maybe when we're in our late 80s, 90s, we'll know all about the plan and it will be exposed.
I'm there too!
I can't rule that one out.
It's a maybe.
I can't say no, but I'm not all in on that.
Right.
And I'm a trust but verify guy.
So here's my biggest problem with it is they keep telling me the plan, the plan, the plan.
And I say, well, look, I understand that we've exposed a lot of things.
We've done a lot of great work, but it cannot all be this mysterious plan.
I mean, the world's burning and everybody's like, well, the plan.
And I'm like, well.
What the plan is this?
And then they go devolution.
What are your thoughts on the concept of this devolution and the concept of this master plan?
If it were playing out, you're a military guy.
You know how this kind of works in a way.
Is this how they would go about doing it?
I mean, that's my genuine, honest question.
Honestly, I go back to that thing that my football coach said.
And I'm not trying to be funny on that.
I try a lot.
How many people in the chat, regardless of what platform you're on, if you're ticked off at what's been taking place, wherever you're at, put a one in the chat.
Put a one and just, you know, I'm ripped.
I'm ticked off.
And I'm hoping enough of you have already put a one.
I'm sure I know there's some latency.
But the reason why is because I know you want to do something.
I know that you're tired of watching what's taking place.
You might not have served in the military.
You might have.
Either way, you're irate about what's happening to your country, and you see it constantly happening.
My argument is, what are you going to do about it?
And most people don't know that answer because we're not giving those tools.
That's why...
Plug, but that's why my show came about because the tagline is giving you those tools to join that fight.
There we go.
We got a bunch of ones.
I knew it.
I knew some people ticked off.
And I say that because there are things that we all can do.
I don't know.
Marto is like a bunch of ones.
Wow, that's a lot of ones.
I don't know what your skill set is.
I don't know what your talents are.
I don't know what your abilities are.
I don't know what resources you have access to or possess yourself.
But I know that you have something.
Maybe you have a pretty cool personality.
Guess what?
Podcast might be for you.
Maybe your goal is to pull on people similar to what Craig and I do, have interviews with people, right?
Maybe you have money.
There are podcasters who need money.
Shameless plug.
True.
It's a shameless plug.
If you'd like to make a donation, now it's a great donation.
But there's also candidates.
There's also researchers.
Whatever your resources are, if it's time, leverage your time.
If it's money, if you truly have a ton of money, this isn't a, hey, pay us.
I'm dead serious.
Don't.
If you don't feel it in your heart, don't.
But put it somewhere.
If that's your biggest resource, put it somewhere where it's actually going to do something.
But actually follow up with that entity, that person, that company, that whatever.
Don't just blindly follow.
Don't donate to the RNC. I said it.
I don't even donate to the state level.
Your county, your candidates.
Those are good places.
I get solicited for money all the time, and I don't because I used to, but then I realized, why am I supporting people who don't stand up for what I believe in and aren't representing me?
So this is a great segue into what you do.
You talk about what people can do.
Imagine this.
Jeff, you're actually really good at helping people who want to get involved in politics.
Now, that's not for everyone I know, and there's maybe who knows how many people watching who would even want to do that.
I know myself understanding the den of vipers that you'd be walking into.
It's kind of one of those things where you've got to be a certain kind of person who wants to get involved.
But how can people Obviously, go check out your show.
You can learn a lot about it if you haven't been watching him.
Jeff's got a great show here on Foxhole, and his channel's called Digital Soldier Network, DSN. But what do you suggest for people who want to get involved in politics?
Maybe one day I'll get in it, because I've already...
I mean, I've already been smeared by all the biggest companies in the world.
I've already had the New York Times write hit pieces and the Media Matters write hit pieces about me.
So, I mean, I might as well, right, at this point.
But what do you say to people who want to get involved that way?
Because I know that this is one of your specialties, really.
So some of this is stuff that I've done myself, and some of this is stuff I've actually learned.
I have a buddy here in the area who's the regional, I don't know the word, director, leader, president, chairman, whatever that position is for what we call the Republican Libertarian Caucus.
I'm not part of it.
I'm not in favor of it.
I'm not against it.
It's an entity here in the area, and I learned a lot from him.
If you're interested in possibly running for something, there's so many different things that you could run for, right?
Did you know that your local HOA is actually a form of government?
Here's what I tell people.
Whatever your passion is, whatever you're the most ticked off about, it's probably a good place to start.
Why?
Because if you follow your passion, you'll find your purpose.
And everything's about the biggest thing with politics that I've learned is name recognition.
So some people jump in and they go for the big seats right out the jump, what I call the Hollywood politicians, right?
D.C. Because everybody focuses on that.
It's like a reality TV show, seeing what's going on in D.C. We forgot what happened in our own backyards.
It's our backyards.
It's your county level, your city level, that made all your lives a living hell the last couple years.
It's them.
Those are the people who've got away, essentially, with murder, with some of the policies and things that they put in place.
So it could be your HOA. What better way to get involved and make your life better than If you don't like your HOA, then to become part of the board.
Or you could run for county commission, city council.
If an actual elected position is not what you want, there's actually advisory boards.
So all those positions, they have advisors that come in who deal with all these different areas.
And you can join one of those boards.
If none of those things are of interest to you, you could also become what we call, every state's kind of different, but a Republican executive committee.
That's something that I very much am big on.
If you go to precinctstrategy.com, Dan Schultz out in Arizona put that together.
He's actually the reason I got started.
He has, I don't know if he has a show.
I see stuff on Getter, on Foxhole, where he's...
Foxhole is built on Pilled.net, and if you go to PrecinctStrategy.com and click the red button to the right, it'll actually take you into our group on Pilled.net.
Honestly, that's one of the best places, because especially if you're shy initially, but you're passionate, I agree.
I agree.
Another thing that we should talk about briefly, just because of your kind of knowledge and a lot of what you do now, is the upcoming 2022 election.
What's your prediction for the outcome?
What do you think?
Is there going to be some...
I've heard from some of my other friends, a good friend of mine who's going to be coming on the show later this week, who also happened to be in basically an intelligence, used to work as, I believe, the chief of staff for the inspector general of the Air Force.
He is...
You told me that, you know, you never know what's going to happen.
It's hard to predict these things.
What do you think is going to be coming down the pipeline ahead of 22?
Beside, I mean, obviously you have the January 6th hearings, which are a bunch of, you know, primetime kabuki theater to get the normies to believe that, you know, there was 9-11 and Pearl Harbor had a baby on January 6th.
That's so funny.
No, I mean, but think about, like, what do you see?
It's not, but yes.
Well, that's how they think of it.
But then also, what are they going to do?
How are they going to try to steal it again?
Do you think 2,000 mules is going to have the mules not bringing their cell phones?
And then how do we monitor that?
And as an analyst who's used to looking at complex things and putting them in simpler terms for people who have a higher...
Break it down Barney style.
We call it in the military.
Yeah.
Break it down for the high-ranking officers who don't understand anything.
No, and I say that facetiously, but seriously, if you were to break it down for us, what's your predictions for 2022, and how can people get involved on the local and county and state election level to make sure it doesn't happen?
If you have any solutions or ideas, I'd love to share them with the audience.
Absolutely.
Well, here's what I'll tell you.
It's only going to...
Nothing's gonna happen if we all just sit and wait for something to happen.
It's truly what you need to do is get involved, however you can, however you best can get involved.
That being said, what I just talked about, your REC, to break that down, you have, everybody knows the RNC, right?
The Republican National Committee.
Well, that's made up of state-level versions of the RNC. Here in Florida, it's called the Republican Party of Florida, RPOF. And then you also have your, every county has its own.
That's kind of where it ends.
You join the county level and what's cool about that is your county has a chairman.
Each county, I think it's different from state to state.
The way our state works is our county, we vote On our state committee man, state committee woman.
So your chairman, your state committee man, your state committee woman, those three represent you at the state level.
So for Florida, there's 67 counties.
There's 201 people within those three positions that represent us at the state level.
And then every state has representation into the RNC by their state chairman and then their national committee man, national committee woman.
So then you have three of those for all 50 states.
I give that breakdown because people need to understand you have true actual agency, true power by joining your county level because you can affect who represents you at your state.
And if enough people throughout the state get involved in that, you can have better state representation up in D.C. or wherever RNC is actually located.
Ronna McDaniel, essentially, the leader of the party is Trump.
Whether people like that or not, it doesn't matter.
He's the leader of the party.
The Republican Party platform is based off of what he put together, what essentially they decided.
I believe if you go to Google, Republican Party platform, 2016 is nearly identical to 2020.
And I would read it, learn it, become familiar with it.
That's how you identify rhinos.
Because if they deviate from what our platform is, that's what makes them a rhino.
We get into these fights.
That documents literally what will define that for you.
So you get involved in your county.
We're talking about 2022 elections coming up.
What are my predictions?
I think there's going to be a lot of upsets.
I think there's going to be a lot of upset people, too, on our side.
Because it's going to depend.
There's going to be cheating.
There's going to be cheating.
Yeah, no kidding.
There's humans, right?
There's other sides that they're going to fight until the very end because if we truly win, a lot of people are going to prison.
So they're going to fight and throw everything at this system.
Look what they just did in Georgia.
I was blown away.
Didn't see that coming.
I actually didn't.
I thought there was going to be a big...
I thought it was going to be such a big turnout that Kemp wasn't even going to get to a runoff.
I actually thought that there truly was going to be that big of a turnout.
Yet, the Democrats are always trying to figure out how they can finagle it.
And in the state of Georgia, you can actually vote.
I don't know if that's called jungle primaries or however it works.
You can vote in the other party.
It sucks, but it's how that plays out.
So how do you prevent it?
You get involved in your local county.
Right now, you get involved in your county's REC because there's election integrity teams.
I just heard this past Thursday, our team talked about, we're going to have people, we still have drop boxes here in the state of Florida.
Florida's the best state in the...
We have a lot of problems.
Let me newsflash for people.
We had tremendous problems.
No states without flaws.
No states without illegal stuff that took place.
Let me break this in.
We used to have a president.
His name was Theodore Roosevelt.
There's a carrier named after him.
It's called the Big Stick.
Reason being, he had a phrase.
He had a mindset.
And this is kind of the symbol of the U.S. Navy.
Speak softly but carry a big stick.
I'd rather have the weapon and never need to use it.
But the presence alone deters people.
If you're in a store and you're thinking about stealing something and you happen to see a cop at the other end of the aisle, are you more or less likely to steal?
Just you being in the room simply could stop a Democrat from attempting to do what they're doing.
You don't even have to say anything.
Our presence alone, you, me, we all collectively getting involved, we can help to stop that type of stuff.
Look, I agree.
I mean I cannot agree more.
I think this is definitely something our audience would benefit from just the knowledge of.
I've said it before, get involved in your local elections.
I really appreciate that you have a deeper knowledge on the specific places to go to to get involved.
I love the idea of getting involved in the county level with your own Republican Party.
Because look, as much as I despise the GOP for what they've done and how they've betrayed us time and time again, they are the only viable political party that we can really latch on to at this point.
So that is definitely where we have to start.
And we can overtake the Republican Party.
We did it in 2016 with Trump.
We basically did it again in 2020.
But they came and hit us pretty hard with that coup and the election fraud that took place and the ballot harvesting and everything else.
And trust me, folks, I live out in California.
Let me tell you, you want to talk about a rigged election?
I had a great conversation.
I went to the AmFest West in Coachella Valley.
I talked about this briefly, and I'll keep it brief again here.
here, but I talked to two state gubernatorial candidates for the state of California who I told directly to their face that they stood no chance, that this whole system in California is rigged and fixed, and that it's a one-party state, and they didn't even try to deny that.
They literally just changed the subject because they knew I was right.
They knew that this system, if we, this is what they want nationally.
So the reason I bring it up is because if we don't stand up now, the rest of the country She's going to become California.
And California, let me tell you, from a person who lives here, there are no free and fair elections here.
It's all rigged.
They send out millions, 20-plus million ballots.
I know I used to live in an apartment here.
I got about eight ballots for the previous eight people that lived in my apartment alone.
So multiply that across every apartment complex in California.
Each apartment itself is getting a half a dozen or more ballots for the previous tenant that doesn't even live there anymore.
So then you multiply that out and think to yourself, wow, how many ballots are floating around in California?
Ballot harvesting is legal.
Ballot boxes are everywhere.
The whole thing is just rigged.
It's rigged from the get-go.
You don't even stand a chance.
A lot of these people, these gubernatorial candidates, they were just running to elevate their profile.
They had no intention of winning.
I had one, who will remain nameless, literally tell me that I cannot pander to those Bible thumpers because I've got to get the liberals.
And I literally looked at that guy straight in the face and I said, you're a disgrace.
I hope you lose.
And I walked away basically because the fact of the matter is they don't represent us and all they care about is power.
And if we let this system be broken in every state that it's being attacked in, then we're going to lose this whole country and it's just a matter of time.
So, you know, I mean, that's my take on it, Jeff.
What do you think?
No, I agree with you.
If we just continue to complain, it's over.
And that's why I guess I'm the forever optimist.
I have some people in my chat who forever challenge me, and I think it's good because iron sharpens iron.
So if I make a statement or a claim, I should be able to back that up.
I'm kind of a good blend between realist and hopium.
I'm kind of in the middle.
So as I'm listening to you speak, my brain, I'm solution-minded.
I'm not problem-minded.
I'm focused on, okay, there's the problem.
How do we fix that?
Here's a good scenario.
I knew that there's an awful lot of things that take place at the precincts, right?
So as I talk about becoming a rec member, every county is broken down or should be broken down into specific voting precincts.
People hear precinct and they think police force.
Kind of?
Sort of similar.
But everywhere you go to vote, it fits within a specific voting precinct.
That said...
For me, I represent about 2,300 voters because I'm a precinct committeeman.
I'm in charge of getting them information so that they can be an informed voter and actually turn out to vote.
I have the ability to influence a lot of people or not influence a lot of people.
I'll put this in perspective.
I'm the first one in this precinct in at least the last five years.
Nobody's knocked on my door except for someone that was part of the Trump campaign.
That's not the same.
So most of these doors aren't even getting knocked on.
If you get such an increased turnout, they can't fudge the system.
That's why Florida stayed for Trump.
Florida was one of...
It was supposed to be seven...
Seven states that they were going to steal.
Close, close.
Yeah.
It was supposed to be seven states.
But Florida, the South Florida, the Hispanic population turned out in such high numbers, they couldn't overcome the amount of fraud, so they gave it.
They gave it to Trump because they're like, we have enough with these other ones, we can make it happen.
So the forever optimist in me, Is listening to that scenario and listening to, okay, well, if fraud takes place, I came up with the argument.
Let's just get a bunch of people, like whatever the qualification is to become a notary.
We have 390 precincts here in my county.
Let's get 800 people, cut that in half, have shifts.
So the moment somebody inside goes in, they're like, oh, sorry, you already voted.
And they're like, no, I didn't.
You could go outside, fill out an affidavit, and jam up your secretary of election from even being able to certify your county because of all these problems in each of these precincts.
We can be proactive.
And my argument, what I would argue, find a position.
They cannot steal every single position.
That is so much coordination and work that's just impossible.
They select which ones are of most importance.
Often you see school board, district attorneys, your sheriffs, and your supervisor of elections.
So where can you pull?
I don't know.
I don't know the strategy on which one, but you need to find somebody who's willing to speak out and go all in and help a number of races.
And again, if you turn out in such high numbers, they can't overcome the fraud.
It's not possible.
So these are the things where I'm like, we're just not acting.
Literally, to put this in perspective...
50%, I think, if my numbers are correct, I have the data so I can back this up.
50% of Republicans in my county typically do not vote, period.
50% are registered and do not vote.
You know that's a freebie to fraud?
If you are registered and don't vote, they vote for you or could vote for you because they use the system.
They can look in the same system I see.
I can go in right now.
If I were a criminal and I wanted to get a certain person elected, I'd go in and look for that district.
How many people haven't voted in the last six to eight years?
Guess what?
Pretty good chance they're not going to show up this time either.
Those are all my targets.
I'm already going to have who that person specifically is going to vote for.
Boom, prepped and ready.
And then we'll mule those all out.
Right?
So there's a lot of ways that they can cheat, but there's a lot of ways that we can fight back.
And it's going to take people actually getting involved.
That's why I'm so passionate about the precinct level, because I see it's really, you get to talk to your politicians.
I don't recommend this because I think it falls underneath the salt.
But you can poke them in the chest and say, why did you vote for this?
You literally get that close contact with the people who represent you.
You can hold them more accountable than any other facet of life I've ever seen.
It's your opportunity to get people who represent you to do what they say that they're going to do.
Or you bust your tail to get somebody else in there.
Yeah, I think that's kind of the problem that we see a lot with these people.
They get in these positions of power and then they just become unaccountable because nobody's holding them to account.
And I think what you're saying is exactly what we should be doing every single day, whether it's in one way or another.
We have to be standing up against this.
So let's kind of switch topics a little bit here.
I don't know how much time you have to spend, but...
I haven't interviewed until late.
I'm actually interviewing somebody tonight who's running against one of the Jan 6 committee members.
She, if you guys pay attention to that show that's going on up in D.C., the committee hearings for Jan 6th, the lady all the way to the right, Elaine Lariah.
She's my former XO. I'm having Chief Jerome Bell on the show tonight at about three hours from now.
So I got time.
That's totally up to you.
But that's going to be a cool interview for anybody that doesn't know.
Alright, well, I'm going to jump over and look at the chat, see where we're at here.
We got a lot of ones, apparently, from the last time that we asked them to chime in.
Looks like we have a great turnout here, thanks to everybody showing up, and the chat looks pretty cool.
So, alright, let me ask you this.
For you, as, you know, former NSA and everything else that you've done with your career, and now getting into your new career and all these incredible endeavors that you've taken on, Where do you see our country heading as a whole when it comes to, like, we talked about 2022.
Now, let's talk about Q. We talked a lot about QAnon previously.
We've had conversations about this stuff.
We had a lot of breakthrough information that came through that, and that was great, right?
And I'm very happy and proud with the information and work that we did.
But what do you think of this?
I just saw this today.
Everybody on True Social now wants to say that this at Q account is the Q that was originally from the Q post.
What do you think on that?
Do you have a comment, thought?
So...
Let me go back and first preface.
I sat.
I was there.
I wasn't there day one, but I was probably within the first week of this coming out.
I built an Intel group myself on Facebook.
Say whatever you want to say.
It was a group messaging account or messenger.
There's probably about 15, 20 of us in there.
This is back in 2015.
I started this because...
I knew that the news lied to us, and there was a number of people in there.
Some I used to know from an Amway business that I built, some that I served in Intel with.
All of us had a pretty good idea of politics and the government, the real government, not the one that we see in front of us.
What I mean by that is those who pull the strings behind the scenes, right?
I don't think there's necessarily two separate governments.
Well, it's the deep state.
Exactly.
Thank you.
The never-ending bureaucracy.
The people that are there in positions for 30 years that are not elected.
You know what I mean?
Yep.
Bureaucrats.
Yeah.
So, I watched for about two years, right?
We would aggregate our info and pull in.
So, I was pulling in a higher level of information because it was, you know, 15 to 20 of us who we would read sources or read information, go source it ourselves, and if we felt that it passed the test, we'd share it amongst ourselves.
Excuse me.
That's how we stayed out of, you know, passing false information, fake stuff.
We actually were very higher level.
And someone threw one of those in.
Like, what are your thoughts on this?
I'm like, that's interesting.
I've never seen that before.
And I'm seeing a lot of the conversation.
I didn't have an opinion.
For a year and a half, probably two years before I finally said something.
Then I put a long thread on Twitter and kind of gave my thoughts as someone who is just paying attention.
Now, that said, I'm still in the camp of, I'm not here to disparage it.
I'm not here to drive people towards the movement.
What I will tell you as an analyst, and I brought this argument up the other day, I am super thankful.
How many of us?
How many of us were there before Q? How many of us were there already researching, already putting stuff out, trying to talk to our family and felt like we were banging our heads against the wall because they didn't want to listen?
Thank God for a movement that came along that opened up more people's minds, that brought far more people to the table than any of us were able to do.
The Alex Joneses of the world opened up a lot of people, but also turned off a lot of people.
This movement, global movement, you can see it all around the world.
Lots of good information, woke a lot of people up, taught people not here's information, taught people how to go look and find information.
My argument now, we haven't heard anything in a couple years, or a year and some change now.
So here's what I would tell people.
People are like, do you think it was all a, I don't know what it was.
I really have no idea.
Don't.
There's a lot of markers I could see within it, but I could make an argument that it was a psyop.
I could also argue that it was our guys.
I could make an argument that it was our guys and it was co-oped.
I don't have the answer to that question, and I don't even pretend to.
Here's what I'll tell you, or here's better what I'll ask of you.
What are you going to do with the information of what you have?
Are they coming back?
Is there a plan?
I don't know.
But wouldn't it be better if your hands are already involved doing something when said plan kicks in place?
And God forbid there isn't actually a plan.
What if it was a PSYOP to keep you distracted over here?
They succeeded.
I want people who thank you for coming to the table.
Here's some ideas on what you can do to get involved.
And for the ones who keep wanting to throw friendly fire, shut up.
You're not helping.
That's not building unity.
I understand.
I get it.
Some of these people are calling out grifters.
I'm all for that.
People, if you're just there to create division and to make a profit...
I don't have a problem with profiting from hard work.
I don't.
If you're putting in the time, I'm all for you getting paid for that very thing because you're helping people.
People can choose if they want to donate or not.
I do have a problem if you're lying to people and getting paid in the process.
On top of that, I'm thankful for those who come here, but please Do not bank 100%.
If I'm trying to figure out a problem and you come in and just tell me there's a plan, no offense, I can't take that seriously because I can't action on that.
And if I'm waiting for somebody else to come save me, God, I hope someone's coming soon because we're in trouble.
We're in big trouble.
Oh, we have to go through pain.
Maybe.
But wouldn't it be nice to go through pain and learn some skill set in the process so that you can help your local county take back?
I have a big focus on one day writing a book.
I'm going to drop a curse word.
We the People 101.
The subtitle is going to be the shit your comedy professor left out, but it's going to be like dollar sign, hashtag, exclamation point T. I think I might get away with it that way.
It's going to be a 101 for all the things, how to join your local REC, how to take back your sheriff's position.
How to go find and understand your state-level constitution and how that marries up with the overall national constitution.
It's going to be a book of how to take back rhino clubs.
I know people deal with this every county across this country.
You have good clubs and you have rhino clubs.
My argument?
Figure out when their next election cycle is.
Throw a ton of people into that group that think like America First constitutional conservatives and vote them out.
You don't have to get rid of the club.
You literally can take it over.
Like these are all strategy things that I want to put in place so that we can take it and take it back.
My thoughts on the at cue.
We were always told reading on that board there would be no outside comms outside of that.
So to me, sorry.
And even if it is, sorry.
You've been silent.
I wasn't waiting for you to come back.
I don't know the answer to it.
Please, if you're listening to this, do not blindly trust anybody to include Craig, myself, or some letter that's represented on social media anywhere.
Verify everything that's put out.
Dig and get involved yourself.
Don't put your authority into somebody else.
Do stuff.
Look things up.
I talk constantly about how you can actually go in and vet candidates.
Look at their contributions and their expenditures.
How many PACs are donating to them?
Go figure out who donates to those PACs.
Which PACs donate to those?
How many are connected to Soros?
All this stuff is doable, and my goodness, I try to tell people, I had someone hit me up and say, hey, my primary's coming up.
Here's a list of all my candidates.
Can you tell me which ones to vote for?
I would love to.
I have no idea who those people are.
Do the work for me, please.
Which I get where they're coming from.
They understand my, you know, respect my thoughts, but it shows me that I still have not got people to a point to realize that one candidate is going to take you 10, 15, 20 hours of truly looking into this stuff to have an idea.
We need to get deeper into the research stuff for ourselves because there's 3,000 plus counties in this country.
My goal is to create enough digital assassins looking up data feds.
I don't actually mean taking people out digitally, looking up the money flow and this stuff and putting it out.
I'd like to see 435 podcasts across this country.
One that represents every representative up in Congress, because at that point, you'll hit both your senators as well.
You'll hit your governor.
You'll cover all your state reps, your state senators.
You'll hit your sheriffs.
You'll hit your county commissioner.
You'll hit everything.
And you'll have people taking in information and sharing this stuff out.
I mean, look, this is exactly what we need.
We need positive, solution-based, actionable ways to go out and affect change.
I do agree with you wholeheartedly with your take on Q.
I mean, the reason that I do what I do and the reason I think I bring something valuable to the whatever they call it, the Q movement at all, the only reason I think I was there was by God's grace because I was there with the intention of bringing God in the equation because I really did see a lot of people putting all their the only reason I think I was there was by God's grace because I was there with the intention of Q's going to fix it all.
Q's going to make the world a better place.
Q's going to solve poverty and famine and world inequality.
And I'm not saying that everybody said that.
I'm just saying I saw a lot of that.
And so I felt compelled by God to go and bring the scripture into it and to bring God back into the equation and tell people, hey, you know, Q's great.
It's good that we're getting this information.
It's good that we're sharing this.
It's good that we're shining a light on the dark topics to get people to be more aware and we're creating this awareness and we're doing these great things.
And yes, I was one of the people who took great solace in knowing that there were good guys behind the scenes doing the right thing for us.
I still believe there are good guys.
I still believe that there are positive good faith actors in every place that we want to chastise and deride, especially like the institutions.
Everything's not as bad as it seems, but it's not as good as people want to paint it sometimes either.
My point was that what I found missing in all the equations that people put forth about Q, because Q even started talking about God a lot, mentioning scripture, talking about God in a lot of different ways.
And I thought that that was...
I mean, that is the whole point of life, right?
We're meant to be here for one reason and one reason only.
It's to share the gospel.
All this other stuff that we're trying to do, in my opinion, is us trying to create an environment in a world where other Christians can be uplifted to God without having to face the trials and adversity and affliction that you see in a lot of other countries.
Although, when you read the Bible for more than five minutes, it becomes very clear that trials, adversity, affliction is a part of life and always has been since the beginning of time.
So it's not like, I just, when I look at people, I say, well, look, if you're going to put all your faith in this plan, I got a plan I want to tell you about.
I got a story that's not only true, but that actually ends in a way that we know is going to be positive for us all.
It's going to bring us eternal life.
that a man came to this earth, the son of God became human, went to the cross, allowed himself to be murdered, right?
Perfectly innocent, never violated anybody, never committed a sin so that we could be free from this world that is so broken and fallen and that we could have a chance at actually, you know, becoming worthy of God's grace that he gives us freely, right?
So that's my point in, It kind of just on the cue thing is that I was always in it for the whole spiritual side to bring that aspect to people.
Because as much as I love doing the research and I love diving in, I still do it to this day.
It became more of a mission for me to make sure that God was not left out of that equation, that Jesus and his sacrifice was not ignored.
And that the plan that we should be focused on is not of this world.
The minute we think that it's of this world is the minute that we've lost everything.
That if our solution is only based in this world, then we have lost sight of what's really valuable and important to life as a whole.
And I know you believe that.
I know you're a man of faith.
I know that because we've had conversations.
I've been on your show.
I've seen the faith that you have and you hold.
So I think that you, in breaking the cue down that way, is great.
And I think that you probably agree with me that God has to be the center, right?
It does.
Always.
I think the biggest thing...
There's one word for me, and I think most of us lack it.
And I think it's thrown around too often.
I see it in some of these...
I don't even understand.
To me, it's funny.
I know that I'm starting to get over the target because I'm starting to show up in some of these other groups as the target.
I saw a group called Cointel 2.0, and I was like, Cointel, Cointel.
I looked it up, and I was like, oh, it's supposed to be Cointel.
I'm like, CI? Why are they calling it Cointel?
We don't use that.
It's called CI, right?
Counterintel.
CI. That's what we would call it within the IC. And I would laugh at it because now these guys think that I'm an operator for Flynn.
They think that I'm some guy that's out there that's just trying to...
I don't even know.
I don't even remember what their arguments were.
They started connecting me.
I'm like, they said I have all this Flynn paraphernalia.
I'm like, go back and listen to what I had to say.
I appreciate Flynn.
My show was built when Flynn went to the microphone and said, we're raising up the next level of digital soldiers.
I took that to heart.
I took that to heart.
So I decided to do something and get involved and help people join the rest of us, right?
So I'm not here to tell you some people are like, oh, he's just defending it.
I don't care.
You can think whatever you want about me.
I wish my bank account knew if I was connected to General Flynn.
I wish some of the notoriety would follow, but it doesn't.
I would say this.
You've got to remember that people are going to say what they're going to say.
I don't know.
Absolutely.
And they're allowed to.
You're entitled to.
Well, and look, I mean, I get called names all the time.
People say I'm an idiot or I don't know or I do know and I'm this and that and the other.
And I just kind of look at it as I know between myself and God.
I don't need any man to justify my belief in this world.
So I stand firmly in the faith with my feet planted in the ground to say that whatever they say is of this world and this world has fallen so I don't really take it to heart too much.
I just think that, you know, the Flynn, that's a good question.
A lot of people have said Flynn is some sort of, he's invoking satanic prayers and blah, blah, blah.
I haven't seen that.
I have my own beefs with him.
There's things that, and that's what people don't understand.
I'm very calculated.
I'm very consistent, right?
I don't blindly follow anybody.
I don't blindly follow Trump.
I don't blindly follow DeSantis.
I don't blindly follow Flynn.
I have issues with all of them on certain things, but overall, I see more good than bad, so I'm a supporter in all those areas.
The word I didn't say, but it's important here, and I'm going to use it.
I'm going to tie it in with what was said in chat that God drops in cue.
Here's the word.
It's discernment.
I don't think enough.
It's something I pray for often is discernment, the ability to understand what's, you know, to pull apart the right from wrong.
Sometimes you can't.
Sometimes you're going to make an error.
However, I think discernment is the most important part because I'll give you an example on this.
Tamger, Grau?
Hopefully I got that right.
Here's my example.
Satan used scripture, too.
Just so we're clear.
The use of scripture does not, by default, make you Christian.
It doesn't, by default, make you good.
I'm not saying that the use of God within Q was bad.
What I'm saying is, you, me, we, we have our own sovereign spirit.
We have our own...
It's your own...
Spiritual belief system, right?
You have your own understanding, right?
And you have to make a choice for yourself at the end of the day.
So I try to put on the full armor of God, to use a scripture from Ephesians.
I try to ask for direction.
I try to pull in as much information as I can and make a logical decision.
And I'm wrong sometimes.
We all are.
But I think it comes down to discernment.
And this is really what I mean by this.
I don't care if some of my followers are in here and have loved everything that I've said.
You don't know.
What if I'm going through a hard time?
Somebody came along, offered me a certain amount of income?
As long as I just kind of slightly tweak things, right?
Satan doesn't have to lie to you.
He just has to twist something just a little bit.
What if that was the case?
You wouldn't even know.
that people have to come to their own conclusions.
Never blindly follow anybody and look into the things of which you're pulling in for information.
Filter to the best of your ability and then make a decision based on that.
But discernment.
Well, I haven't even looked at the chat because I can't.
I have to switch screens and it's like a whole thing.
I'm sure.
Who knows what they're saying at this point?
They're good.
Someone just said the God drops in Q. 100% on discernment.
That's a good point.
Thank you.
Hopefully Orlando is doing well.
We need to hear people's words.
Pick it apart.
Define.
Discern.
Repeat.
Amen.
Mardo nailed it.
Okay, so what I'm going to say is this, right?
I know for a fact that when Q was dropping all the stuff about God, that was all very good, but I didn't look to Q to find my connection to God.
I looked to God to find my connection to the world so that I could help people in the best way I could.
So I think you're kind of going the same route with that, with discernment, and yes, Satan did use scripture, and that is one of the things that I've told people many times on my show, and if they've watched it at all, they probably have heard me say that at times.
And the fact of the matter is, though...
You know, we have to be the change we want to see in this world, right?
And that's what I try to tell people all the time.
I say, look, you cannot expect an outside force to intervene on your behalf all the time outside of the expectation and knowledge that God is going to be with you through it all, no matter what, how bad it gets, how good it is.
He's going to be there with you by your side.
So that's what you have to remind yourself every day.
But Outside of God and Jesus and the Holy Spirit, the three in one that are with us always, that we can't rely on all these things in this world to just fix our problems and make it all go away.
And even if they did, then new problems are going to pop up.
It's not going to be all sunshine and rainbows.
The fact of the matter is that we have a choice to make in this life, and that is, are we going to honor God with the talents and skills that he's given us, the blessings he's afforded us, everything that we have, all of our God-given strength, are we going to honor God with it, or are we going to ignore God, or are we going to go the opposite route and go toward the evil?
These are the things.
I just did in my show today, book of James, chapter 4.
We talked about this exact principle.
You know, one of the pieces of scripture in there talks about how if you resist the devil, he will flee from you, right?
And if you go toward God, he'll come toward you.
And that's what I tell people all the time.
The further that we go toward God, right...
God's always going to be coming after us.
But if we're walking in the opposite direction, he's never going to catch us.
It doesn't matter how much he comes toward us, we're going away.
He's never going to catch us, right?
And if we're going away, we're going toward the devil.
But if we're fleeing the devil, meaning we're resisting him, he's going to be running away from us because that means we're getting closer to God, something he can't get near because God is the ultimate power that defeats evil in this world.
So my thing is always...
Whatever happens in this world is not of as much consequence as what happens in the next world, and you have to focus on that, which means you have to do the right thing, live righteously, try your best every day to live a life for God, be humble, but also understand that you've got to do the right thing when no one's watching.
These are like principles.
These are things you've got to believe so that you can live it, and when you do that, You can see your whole life change immediately.
Your life will go from one way to another and it could be either instant or it could take time.
It's on God's timeline, not yours.
Don't have an expectation for God to do things that are basically of your own creation in your mind.
That's putting God in a box.
That's saying, Jesus and God, you have to work in the way I say you work.
No, you have to leave room for God to come and do His will in your life and open yourself up to it.
And that's the message I tell people all the time, especially when they get obsessed with the Q stuff and everything.
Because I'm like, look, we are the ones who are in control of our destiny with God in our hearts and in our lives with faith, the faith that we have in His Son and the Holy Spirit.
The Holy Spirit lives inside of us.
He's an advocate for us to God.
Jesus was an advocate to God.
Jesus came and died for us so he could go to God and say, look, my sacrifice was for you.
And it's the three are one.
So it's like, I just think that's what we need to focus on more.
So I appreciate you.
But look, I think we're hitting that one hour mark.
So I'm going to go ahead and wrap it up here.
But before I do...
I want to touch on one comment in the chat.
I want you to touch on a comment, give your response, and then we'll talk about something else.
Go ahead.
Okay.
Florida Girl for Trump and Q said, that's the thing.
When people say research for yourself, how do you know if you're researching is the truth?
Great, great question.
I'll just tell you how I do it.
When I look into information, when I look into reports, when I look into websites, I always go up into the about or contact us or board of directors, wherever I can, and I go figure out who's in charge of that website.
And I go figure out who those people are or the author.
And I go figure out who they're connected to.
I'll do research on those people before I decide where I stand on that overall article because I need to know the source.
If I can't come to a definitive understanding where I'm very confident of the information that's been provided is accurate and true because I'm tired of people saying, based on the data, show me the data.
Let me go look at the data.
I'll be a lot more comfortable after seeing the data.
So if I can't do that, for me, I put it into conjecture, right?
It's not right.
It's not wrong.
It's something that could be helpful to fill in a piece later, but I don't blindly...
There's very few things I just...
I'm like, yes, yes, yes.
But if I've done a lot of research and looking into something, pull from a lot of different sources and there'll be enough overlap.
You generally can come, that's where discernment comes in, and you'll have a pretty good gut feeling, if you will, of the direction you're supposed to go.
So that's where I stand.
I will disqualify a lot more things or just put it into the camp of conjecture until I can prove one way or the other with it.
Hopefully that helps.
Yeah, that's a great point, and thank you for fielding that question, because you're definitely qualified to give a good analysis and answer on that.
But yeah, I agree with you 100%.
When you look at information, you have to look at it.
I just try to look at everything skeptically.
And I try to do kind of the similar thing that Jeff's talking about, like make sure that the source you're using is the source that you trust or that you know is going to give you information.
Usually for me, though, I've been able to figure that out through consistency over a long period of time, meaning I use a lot of the same sources regularly because I know that the information that they provide is verifiable and accurate, which is really what you have to do.
There's a lot of websites you can get into.
You can go down some rabbit holes online where You're at a website and it's telling you about how Hitler zombies are going to be coming out of the woodwork and John F. Kennedy Jr.
is going to fly in on a plane and we're all going to run off in the sunset and be happy together.
And that could happen.
I don't know.
Maybe Hitler did have zombies down in Antarctica at some secret base and maybe JFK Jr.
did fake his death.
But it's like...
If I can't really verify it, I'm not going to sit there and go, yeah, that's definitely going to happen.
Yeah, you didn't know JFK Jr.
is going to fly in on a plane tomorrow and the zombies from Hitler are down in Antarctica with the Nephilim giants, which I'm not discounting that.
I'm not saying that's not possible because anything's possible.
I leave room for anything to be possible.
I'm not closed-minded whatsoever.
Aliens?
Maybe.
I don't know.
It'd have to be something I'd have to see to believe.
But they may use an alien false flag to get us to give over our rights and have a one-world government.
There's a lot of different things that could be happening.
I'm not going to say it's impossible, but...
That's a good place, I think, for us to kind of leave it.
I mean, there's so much more, Jeff.
We'll have you on again.
I know I'm going to have you on as a guest again because this is a great conversation.
So with that being said, let me give you an opportunity here in the wrap-up to tell people where they can find you.
Give the audience any other information that you want to share with them and tell them how they can help and get involved with what you're doing.
I think your work is definitely worth supporting, so I'm going to give you the floor right now to give all your info and to tell people about what you're doing and what you're getting into.
Oh, I appreciate it.
And again, thanks for having me on.
When you were talking about JFK, for some reason, JFK Day came to mind, and then I thought about it.
I'm like, oh, snap, today's President Trump's birthday.
So happy birthday, President Trump.
Yeah, happy birthday.
Yeah.
I have...
I have a show on Foxhole.
I'm on DLive Twitch.
The best way to find me, if you're not watching this on Foxhole, is to just go to...
It's not a Linktree, because Linktree, I guess, is owned by Australia, and they nuked me.
So, lnk.bio.dsn.
That is the link that will take you to literally every platform.
I'm on Truth Social, Getter...
Twitch, DLive, my website.
If you're looking to get involved and learn how to...
If you want to learn how to meme, if you want to learn how to start your own podcast, I have boot camps on my website, digitalsoldiernetwork.com.
If you want to research...
It's a harder one if you don't live in Florida, but you can still use what I have.
If you go to my website and go to the research tab, I have a bunch of links on there that can help people go find money flow.
The ones farther to the left on that page, they're national level.
Transparency USA. I forget some of the...
There's like four on there.
You can go check the FEC. You can go check and see where the money flows.
But I do host a show Monday, Wednesday, Friday from 9 to 11 p.m.
Typically we have a guest on from 10 to 11.
Usually it's a candidate running somewhere.
Today's a little different.
We're doing a Tuesday only because we couldn't find time before his primary next week.
So yeah, that's generally...
L-N-K dot B-I-O slash D-S-N will take you to everything.
And truly, even if you never reach out to me or never do anything along those lines, go to precinctstrategy.com.
And go look around on that website and see if what we're doing across this entire country is something you're interested in.
There are 400,000 precinct committee men and women seats throughout the country.
And as of the 2020 election, there are only 200,000 of those filled.
So there's a very high chance that your precinct is empty and they could use your help knocking on doors to get good candidates elected.
Wow, that's incredible.
I appreciate that.
And you guys, definitely check his work out.
He's done amazing work.
Jeff, thank you so much for coming on the show.
We're blessed to have you.
We're blessed to have you in the fight to do what's right for this nation, to fix it, to right this ship, so that we can have a brighter future for our kids, grandkids, and the rest, so that it's not just a bleak oblivion that they're facing.
We do know we have the hope of God in our hearts, and we have the sacrifice of Jesus on the cross, and we have the Holy Spirit with us, so we know that we can overcome all things.
And with that being said, I'm going to read a little bit of scripture quickly.
This is a scripture we did earlier in the show, but I'm going to share it again.
This is one of my favorite lines.
This is what I base my whole, you know, the God's Grace is Greater segment from right here.
This is chapter 4 of the book of James, verse 6 through 10.
It says, I think that this
has been an incredible time here with you, Jeff.
And if you don't mind, I'm going to wrap it up with a little prayer, if that's okay.
Yeah, absolutely.
We did that on mine, too.
Yeah, absolutely.
We always end it with prayer here.
It's kind of the thing that we do.
Dear Lord and Heavenly Father, we pray for discernment as you've shown us in just this conversation how we need to look more closely at your word always to find the discernment that we need to overcome the fallen world we live in in whatever ways you need us to, Lord.
Help us be a tool for change for your will in this world.
Help us use these strategies, these techniques, these ideas to make a positive change so that we can affect The world in a way that honors you and honors your son and honors the Holy Spirit.
So please, Lord, just guide us through this journey that we are on.
Protect us as we go forward into a world.
And Lord, please put your blessing on Jeff and his work.
Please, Lord, show him the way forward.
Give him the discernment.
And please, Lord, do the same for me in my life, but also everyone out there watching.
Lord, touch us all in ways that we know you can and show us the path forward that we need to be on to most effectively honor you and share your word out into the world.
And we give thanks for you and everything that you've done for us, including the sacrifice made on the cross for our sins.
And we thank you for the Holy Spirit.
Thank you most of all for our eternal salvation.
In Jesus' name we pray.
Amen.
Amen.
Well, dude, let me tell you, it's been a great interview.
I, like I said, if you guys want Jeff to come on again, please do me a favor.
Let me know down in the comments below this video and we are going to have him on regardless, but I'd like to hear what you guys think of him anyway.
Uh, with that being said, I want to give a big thank you to Jeff for his time and coming on the show.
I know he's got a lot of busy schedule, but we're blessed to have him.
And, uh, any last words, Jeff, before we sign off?
Happy birthday to the hubby in chat.
Whoever, was it Tam Gurr, I think, said, yeah, her husband's birthday's tomorrow, so happy birthday.
Other than that, no, I appreciate you having me on.
Good seeing all the familiar names in chat, and hello to all the new people.
I appreciate y'all.
Actually, I was thinking about something interesting.
If you guys are wanting to understand this whole Jan 6 committee thing from a legal perspective, A, legal, not illegal, there's a guy over on YouTube who's a lawyer out in Arizona I've been following over the last week or so.
He kind of gives a real good legal breakdown.
His name is Robert Gouveia.
I think it's G-O-U-V-E-I-A, I think.
Just put in Robert G-O-U and it should come up.
He gives a really good breakdown.
I think he's got a website like...
Jan6...
something.
Sorry, it's not helpful.
You definitely want to go check him out on YouTube because my whole thing is I don't always have to have the answers and I don't, but I try to have the people who do.
So that's a good breakdown if you're trying to make sense of the crazy that's going on up there and you want to understand the actual legal side of it.
It's a...
Good place to go check it out.
Other than that, I appreciate y'all.
We'll be live on my show here in a few hours, and then Wednesday, Friday.
We got Red Pill 78 coming on tomorrow, so if anybody wants to see that interview.
Oh yeah, you're going to get a bunch of people for that.
That's awesome, man.
Well, God bless you, Jeff.
Thanks for coming on the show.
We're going to have you on soon.
Again, I'm sure there's going to be plenty for us to dive into.
We only kind of scratched the surface here, but everybody go check out Jeff's channel.
It's called Digital Soldier Network.
You can find it primarily, I think, over on pilled.net, which is where these videos are being live streamed.
So if you're watching on Rumble or BitChute, consider checking it out.
You can find me there at JustInformedTalk and Jeff.
So if you want to give us both some love, please go check out that platform.
But until the next episode of JustInformedTalk, my name is Craig James.
We'll see you on the next one.
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