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Feb. 19, 2026 - Jim Fetzer
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REAL DEAL SPECIAL (18 February 2026): Katherine Horton and Bill Binney UNDER FIRE!
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Iran Crisis: Cabal Agenda 00:14:25
Welcome to another real deal special interview with Catherine Horton, Bill Binney under fire.
It's been a fascinating series.
A couple of really spectacular interviews with Bill of late, and now I'm delighted to have Catherine here today.
Catherine, welcome back to the show.
Thank you, Jim.
Bill sends his excuses tonight.
He had to go and chase something else up, but I hope I can follow his act after the last interviews.
Yes, yes.
Well, so much is going on with Iran.
There are even reports that there are attacks on a number of Revolutionary Guard bases.
I think there may be an attempt to go after the ballistic missiles while they're on the ground before Iran has an opportunity to fire them.
The Chinese have provided a new very sophisticated long-range radar warning command and control automated retargeting Catherine system.
I mean, it's sensational.
Goes out to 700 kilometers.
It'll detect stealth aircraft.
And what it does is automatically retarget missiles for new targets in real time.
And then today we have the report from Hal Turner that Russia has sent a doomsday plane.
As you know, we have, I think, three of them.
Well, Russia has sent one to Iran.
Very clear evidence that Russia and China are not going to let Iran go down, no matter what Israel and the United States may throw at them.
Bibi has been in Washington beating up Trump to attack Iran, and he believes it's an historic opportunity.
And I think for the following reason, he might be right.
Enthusiasm for Israel has been dropping like a rock.
It's a combined effect of the genocide, the Charlie Kirk shooting, the Epstein files, the realization that Israel has been running our government for all these years.
Younger, younger age group, like below 35 is like 90% opposed to Israel running our government.
So Bibi's concern, I think, is that there may be no popular American support for supporting Israel in the future, you know, that the Americans are learning through these experiences, which overjoys me because it's such a hard lesson to absorb.
But I believe it's finally sinking in.
Your thoughts.
I'm thinking that when whatever realization is sinking in, I want people to realize that this is a network that's even bigger than Israel.
I'm not to absolve them of any guilt in Gaza because look, I mean, we know the oddities in this whole attack on October 7th, how, you know, I think it was writers and or AP journalists who traveled in time from Ukraine there to be able to report live, you know, about the October 7th events.
You know, we know that, you know, all things were undertaken so that those attacks can be facilitated from the Israeli side.
So, you know, we know that people play both sides all the time.
We know that Trump's administration is infiltrated.
You know, they are continually trying to mix.
And beyond that, I think the intelligence agencies are one and the same entity by now, also in China.
So, one of the things I pointed out on True Social, just remember that all the globalist companies relocated to China, pretty much all of them.
Manufacturing as good as left America.
Also, a large part of Europe went off to China.
Not all of it.
Germany still has some, but the heavy lifting is done by China.
The Western cabal would have never done that had they not already controlled China.
You just don't move all your investments and all your assets into enemy territory and hope that they will just honor their obligations to you.
No, you take them over completely.
For example, during the Mao genocides, you genocide tens of millions of them.
You absolutely terrify everybody and take them over.
You set up the secret society system of Russian dolls, nothing to do with Russia here, more like MI6, where you think you're being controlled by Chinese, but they're controlled by other people who are controlled by other people.
And before you know it, you're controlled by the Rothschilds.
So, you know, all this is happening at the same time.
So, when we take in the full picture, there's no real difference between Chinese intelligence and the CIA.
Telltale sign is the surveillance state that is being, you know, put in lockstep in China and here.
Whatever they call it over there, over here, it's called Palantir.
And Google, whatever, auto-pay as you go out, whatever the hell.
We have different names, right?
They have Chinese characters, but it's the same shit being literally put, you know, rolled out in lockstep, just like mass immigration was rolled out across the whole of Europe, you know, among countries that otherwise couldn't agree on the straightness of a banana within the EU.
Suddenly, they all agreed on unbridled mass immigration and implemented it at the same time in exactly the same way.
So that means that there's an overarching superstructure that controls it all.
So, having said that, the superstructure controls the US, the CIA, and the FBI that tried to kill Trump.
They certainly control MI6.
In fact, they are MI6.
They control Mossad.
You know, they are Mossad.
They control the Chinese.
So, really, it's not just about Iran.
It's about whoever thinks they're independent from the system, Trump and whoever was not an infiltrator.
It's their fight against this global slavery system that has been rolled out.
So, you know, who is building these missile defense systems in China?
You know, who, which companies built these?
Are they truly independent of Lockheed Martin or do they exchange parts?
Is Lockheed Martin part of their production over there?
You know, maybe some screws, maybe some software tidbits.
I mean, the whole thing is basically an interwoven tapestry.
So, you know, it's a lot simpler, but at the same time, also a lot more complex than just saying, oh, well, you know, it's Mossad is with the US and they are against Iran.
It's like, no, Mossad also controls the mullahs in Iran.
It's basically they control both sides and they, you know, send some agenda program down the pike.
And the question is, does Trump's agenda agree with their agenda?
If so, then it will be just implemented flawlessly.
Or is he really trying to go with humanity against this organized cabal slavery system?
In which case, they will do anything and everything to prevent that.
To give you an example, and now I'll stop talking, you know, because I've been banging on about this, but just an example.
Wasn't it strange just how easy it was to pull off Venezuela?
Right?
They went in, not a hitch, nobody twisted an ankle, you know, repelling down the side of a building.
Everything was just flawless.
They took them over, like nothing.
Okay, somebody said a helicopter was hit, but then it still flew its mission.
So, wow, not a single fuck-up in an organization that's staffed by not very bright, brutish people.
You know, it was flawless.
So, from that alone, I assume that the cabal was totally fine with Trump taking the CIA operative Maduro back to CIA homeland, and then the Cabal oil companies starting to pump oil from Venezuela, which they also already own, but with different actors.
Do you see what I mean?
So, Venezuela was flawless because, as far as the Cabal is concerned, they were holding on, they had gained control of Venezuela, they were already controlling the oil fields by various proxies.
You know, call it China, call it Russia, call it whatever the hell, call it the Venezuelan regime.
But they were controlling it, and now their control passed from the left hand to the right.
And the only thing that changed is that they will start pumping oil from their oil fields now through the oil companies that they own.
Do you see what I mean?
And that suddenly explains everything.
So, as far as you know, the Rothschilds and whatever the 13 Illuminati families are concerned, okay, they took some assets from their right hand or their left hand to their right hand and continued doing what they would have done anyway.
No problem, right?
So, if Trump can find a way to get rid of the shithead mullahs in Iran and bring true freedom to the people, and at the same time, make the cabal the Illuminati, the 13 bloodlines, and the Rothschilds continue with the business plan they would have implemented anyway.
I predict that whatever Chinese defense missile system the Iranians have bought will be just switched off miraculously, just like it was switched off miraculously when they got Maduro out of Venezuela.
I promise you, if they want this op to go forward and it fits into their business plan, it will be there, won't be a hitch, it will be a complete thundering success.
So, the question is: you know, can you convince the descendants of the Illuminati bloodlines and the Rothschilds to just snap the fuck out of it and actually just cycle to a system where you don't oppress the people and you still make as money, if not much more, than before you would have otherwise in this backward medieval bullshit, you know, that somebody and CIA MI6 Mossad skunk works dreamt up.
You know, they invented all this black chador and black outfit for the Iranians and all the Islamist pseudo-religious bullshit that wasn't indigenous to Iran.
Can we take that bullshit and put it aside and give the people some freedom?
And then the same big globalist companies will continue making money.
I would predict even more money, you know.
So, I think the negotiation is that I am 100% sure that if they truly wanted to, they can switch off whatever Chinese missile defense system, just like they did in Venezuela, you know, because how did they pull it off there?
People were saying, Oh, suddenly, all their systems stopped working.
You know, was it hashtag Stuxnet or was it hashtag some new hack, or was it just the same weapons companies that make all this shit around the world just logging in by remote control through the back door that they always had and just you know sending a script to switch everything off?
You know, I just find it strange that it, you know, stuff that you would expect to blow up cataclysmically just didn't blow up in Venezuela.
What do you think about all this?
I'm blown away by it.
I'm fascinated by your take, Catherine.
You know, I tend to naively assume that we have real conflicts between nations, that they're not all under one umbrella, both sides being controlled by the same entity.
So, yes, I agree.
Venezuela was very, very strange.
how the choppers could come in, how they could make the snatching grab.
Yeah, they lost, I don't know, 200 Cuban bodyguards purportedly to these new weapons that appear to be directed energy.
But then they were gone.
So it was astonishing.
I agree.
And Jim, Jim, another thing that we know from hashtag Sandy Hook, did anybody find any obituaries for those 200 people?
Because in a war zone, they can claim whatever death they want.
They could have been 2,000.
They could have been two or 20.
How the hell will we check this?
Because all this information comes from the CIA.
And the one thing we definitely know about them is that they lie their ass off 24-7.
So heck knows what happened in Venezuela.
You know, they leaked one eyewitness report that talked about how, you know, the U.S. soldiers were shooting 300 rounds per minute and everything, you know, everything, everybody started vomiting blood and they collapsed.
Hey, any, you know, do we have any CCTV footage online?
Anybody from that town?
Did they show something?
I saw some grainy stuff, but it's just as grainy as the 9-11 shit, you know?
It's like, hang on, back then we had high-resolution, high-def webcams.
The Venezuelans have the same cell phones with 4K video or whatever that is.
And yet all the videos we've seen from Venezuela are just like, you know, 320p resolution, like a VHS tape from the 1990s.
So there's some large-scale CIA grade bullshit going on.
And I expect that it will be exactly the same in Iran.
But the bottom line is, after whatever bullshit cycle they pull off is over, do the people have more safety and more freedom?
You know, can women run around wearing whatever they want to?
Or do they still have to run around in black blankets and 40 degrees Celsius heat?
You know, will gay people still be flogged to death and thrown off buildings?
You know, that's the question.
Secret Symbols of Power 00:07:08
And I don't know.
I'm just confident that if, for example, if President Trump cut a deal with, I don't know, let's say King Charles, for example, who's really high up in the crown and whose own family members basically run all the monarchies of Europe, right?
And their secret societies known as Freemasonry runs all the other countries.
If he cut a deal with King Charles, that they will wind the bullshit in Iran, the F down, they will get it done.
Whatever the Chinese say, whatever the Russians say.
I promise you, because the Russians are the same Freemasons as the Brits are, you know?
So it is all, as somebody, as one MI5 and MI6 whistleblowing pages put it online, all this world politics is really Masonic office politics.
That's all it is.
You know?
I really would love for you to elaborate on that because I've never felt, you know, I had a handle on the Masons.
It's always seemed sort of elusive, shadowy.
I could never quite wrap my arms around it, figure it out.
I know 33, the ubiquitous number is like the highest or penultimate highest level of masonry.
But anything you could do to enlighten us about masonry would be most welcome.
Okay, now let me do this next time where I prepare street view images.
But I did it in one of my videos where I went through all the big cities around the world in Latin America, but also Moscow.
And I showed that the same Masonic pentagram is on, I think all, if not maybe most, but I think all, all monuments in Moscow have the exact same pentagram, you know, the whatever memorial to war heroes here and whatever, you know, memorial to the great Russian bear over there.
They all have an obelisk and they all have a Masonic pentagram.
And it's exactly the same pentagram that's floated around here in the US.
And that you can find if you travel through Pennsylvania, a lot of houses have these huge, big pentagrams on their barns and it's called a barn star.
But some houses have it.
And if you map where the houses are with the biggest, fattest, most prominent pentagrams, they tend to be at street interjunct crossings, like when country lanes cross, for example.
So if this was the insider recognition system of an ancient intelligence agency, you would want to have a plant, you know, whose house is at an intersection that they could just look out of the window and you could see if so-and-so is coming down the street and it's turning left or right.
So if you travel through Pennsylvania, I promise you that whatever major, you know, old country lane intersection you're at, somewhere within sight, there will be a house with a pentagram.
And that pentagram will look identical to the pentagram that's on all the Moscow monuments, in addition to the obelisk.
And if you go through all the capitals of the world, not even capitals, major cities, all of them have a huge fat obelisk in the middle of it.
And for example, Ola Damegard said about the European false flag operations that they tend to happen within a very short walking distance of one of these obelisks.
Sometimes direct line of sight, sometimes you have to turn a corner, but it's all within a short radius around one of these things.
So that's another insider recognition symbol.
Then there are also actual insiders who wrote the, well, I hope it's still online.
It was called mi5andmi6exposed.com or.org, one of the two.
And it was, well, people might claim it's fake, but the details they were talking about were so on point and matched up with real events so perfectly.
I truly believe that it was written by British intelligence insiders who went through the full recruitment program.
And they go into detail about how, for example, Putin and now former chief of MI6, Sir John Scarlett, they are both high-level masons.
They all work together.
There were plans about taking Putin across to the West, which was then aborted because the agenda points changed.
But Sir John Scarlett and Vladimir Putin worked together closely during the Cold War and its aftermath.
So it's all just a big fat lie, just like the wars in the US were a big fat lie where the Rothschilds just paid both sides.
But I can go into detail.
And when you actually hone in on the secret society symbols, even just the big ones, the all-C-I, the obelisk, the pentagram upside down or not upside down, you can see how it took over the world.
Example, one super easy way to do it is to go to Wikipedia and list all the the flags of the world, so all the you know national flags of every country in the world, and just go through and find all those that have a pentagram on it.
Now, the Us flag has 50, the European Union has what 13, like the 13 bloodlines of the Illuminati you know.
And then you go through, oh um, if you look at, for example, New Zealand, it has a couple of little stars that look different, but one tiny, tiny pentagram is there right.
And then you go through all the countries and the major five ice countries that do not have pentagrams, like the United Kingdom has the main Pharaonic colors of red, white and blue.
That would be the Uk the, the Netherlands another royal family France, another royal family, who got their head chopped off by the masons.
But you know it's, it's all the same club.
And when you map it like that, you realize wow, countries in Africa had their own indigenous flags taken over and these pentagrams started appearing.
You know, and you can, you can look at um, every country, and sometimes Wikipedia has the history.
I think there's some Middle Eastern countries where I went through the history of their national flags and at some point in the 20th century, it went into this thing of just out of nowhere having a pentagram.
Pakistan has a pentagram, the old USR had the pentagrams, the Chinese flag has the pentagrams.
It, if you, if you realize the pentagram is a company logo, you realize holy, it's all just branch offices in different countries of the same corporation.
You know where?
Where did the Masons originate?
I'm just lost in the history of this.
Okay think, think about it like that.
Okay so gosh, you can go back to the Romans and the Babylonians, whatever.
Let's just start somewhere, last couple of centuries, and it's super easy to understand.
Vatican Crime Cartel 00:15:12
Okay um, there are two, two sides to this.
So, to answer your question, the Masons are the civil intelligence agency um, of the Vatican or the Catholic Church, the Vatican Crime Cartel.
The Jesuits are more like military intelligence.
They are cut above the.
The Masons are what's?
You know it?
They infiltrated uh, civil life, all levels of society.
So it's two.
It's just like NSA has a civil, you know branch and, but also incorporates military intelligence.
The Masons and the Jesuits together form the intelligence agency of the Vatican slash, the Catholic Church under the.
I think they are run by the gray pope, if I remember correctly, what?
Or the black sorry, the black pope, whatever the hell.
The gray pope runs the finances, the white pope the brainwash, as in religion, and the gray pope runs military intelligence, whatever.
Now, um evidence for that is, for example, where the Masonic lodges are, that they use the same symbols as the Knights OF Malta, that people who are members of the Masons will also eventually join the Knights OF Malta, who are uh, you know, a military Order, knightly order of the Catholic Church, blah blah, blah.
So, if you trace them back, you can find this out.
But there's a much, much easier route to understand all this.
And that's to say, let's just start with any system, right?
Any corporation or whatever, you know, company in an economy.
If there are no antitrust laws, you always end up with a monopoly.
That's just how it is.
Whatever company is slightly doing slightly better than the others, they'll try to buy out the others.
Okay, so in organized crime, there never is any antitrust regulation.
There's no regulation, there's no taxation.
And hey, there's no taxation on the church anywhere either.
So, just like organized crime, the church will outgrow the normal economy.
Just like the normal economy, the church has property.
They own all the land under the churches.
They own, you know, farmland, they own buildings everywhere, abbeys, you know, monasteries, the lot.
Just like McDonald's, they are basically a real estate holding company.
Okay, they have all this land.
Now, if you add in how much money they made of the farmland and of everything that they had, and factor in that they got 10% church tax, you very quickly realize that the Catholic Church became the biggest monopoly in any, in any Western economy very quickly within, I don't know, maybe decades, maybe a couple of centuries, whatever.
But it was long before we were born, right?
Centuries before we were born.
And once you have that, you will have this entity take over everything else.
The royal families, then governments, then intelligence agencies, militaries, you know, regulatory bodies, lobbying companies, insurance companies, banks, right?
They will all be gobbled up by this mega thing because it's in no country under any antitrust regulation.
And in no country is it ever taxed.
The church is not taxed in the US.
The church is not taxed in Germany.
It's not taxed anywhere.
So just by the laws of system, physics, and mathematics, the church will become the biggest monopoly thing ever, far beyond anything else.
It will be bigger than any one government.
And then whoever runs this entity, the Catholic Church, will take over.
And it just so happens that what has been identified as the 13 bloodlines of the Illuminati, these families who all have Italian names, they used to and still are, I think, supply the Pope.
Right?
So they are the people who run the Vatican.
And I would say they are the people who own the corporate structure behind all this.
The corporate structure that owns all the property, that owns all the money, that owns Banco Vaticano, that owns all the other shit.
It's one corporation.
And as far as I can see, the corporation is called the Crown Corporation.
So in Latin, Corporatio Corona, if I get it right, my Latin is right.
And you find the CC engraved in French chateaus, in absolutely everywhere, CC.
And if you look at the 33 levels of Freemasonry and take the letter 3 to correspond to the third letter of the alphabet, then 33 is CC.
So in other words, as you're rising through the ranks of Freemasonry and you reach the 30th or 31st and so on, you become a C suite executive of the Crown Corporation.
You are entrusted with running their stuff locally.
But the bottom line is, if you just map the Catholic Church and its money and its property holdings, you know, there's no other way than for this entity, this corporation, to take over everything and start controlling both sides.
And then you add in that the Rothschilds were called the asset managers of the Vatican, right?
Goldman Sachs was called in to kind of reshuffle the Vatican assets when the European governments were trying to go after money laundering and they quickly had to just reshuffle the deck, you know, so they bulled in a big globalist bank.
But everything points to this mega corporation behind it running everything.
And I think it was just today when Jimmy Doerr posted an interview by Tucker Carlson, where Tucker Carlson talks about this, I think he called it the supra entity or whatever.
It's like above the shadow government or the shadow government.
Who are these people?
Well, that's who they are.
There's no other player who has this financial volume, you know?
And then you can tie it to the Venetians who own the Venetian wealth, blah, blah, blah.
But you always end up with this mega monopoly.
So if the Catholic Church was a monopoly in wealth in the 18th century or the 16th century, it's going to be still a monopoly today.
And I think what happened during the Russian genocide, communist genocide, and the Chinese communist genocide is when the Crown Corporation took over China and Russia.
And they, you know, I mean, the Tsar was part of the royal family before, so they had the same secret societies, but then they really owned a lot.
There was absolutely no independence.
And funnily enough, that's when the Pentagram appeared on their flag for the first time, if I'm not mistaken.
You know, the communist USSR flag with the stars.
So there you go.
And if you write it down in terms of company size and you just put in this monopoly dynamics into any model of any country or any economy, you always end up with the same answer.
There's no other way.
There's no other player of this size.
So there you go.
Fascinating, Catherine.
Just utterly fascinating.
And how do you relate the relationship between the Jewish state and the Vatican, Tel Aviv and Rome?
Yes.
So if you look at the Balfour Declaration or when Israel was created, after that, Queen Elizabeth sent a congratulatory note to Baron Rothschild.
I was like, oh, here, I congratulate you on the founding of Israel.
What was that about?
Was he just the, I don't know, the quota Jew in the British parliament?
Who is he?
Well, he was there to start with because he was the, you know, his family were the asset managers of the Vatican, and the British crown is part of the Crown Corporation, which is a much bigger entity.
So in other words, I think David Icke got it right when he said that Israel, the foundation of Israel, was the creation of a private fiefdom for the Rothschild family as thanks for their services to the Crown Corporation throughout the ages.
You know, they had these big estates in the UK and big houses absolutely everywhere, but they didn't really have a country.
And then they were given a country that's bigger than the Duke of Liechtenstein's.
And sure enough, the Supreme Court is plastered again with Masonic symbolism, Illuminati symbolism, blah, blah, blah.
So there you go.
And this is also why Mossad and MI6 are fused at the hip and always will remain so, because it was the British crown that created this for them.
Do you see what I mean?
So from that alone, I will tell you that, you know, when you create something, when MI6 creates or watches the creation of Mossad, Little baby intelligence agency, any intelligence agency's job is infiltration from day one.
So there's absolutely no way that you could ever have Mossad independent from MI6 or from the Vatican intelligence in general, the Jesuits and so on.
Right.
So for this reason, whatever Mossad decides to do, when October 7th was decided to be undertaken, MI6 signed off on it.
I guarantee it.
And the Vatican signed off on it.
It was one coherent business plan to conduct October 7th.
So this is what we and the same would be true of 9-11.
Oh, FS.
Oh, absolutely freaking lutely.
And, you know, evidence in point: the building owners, right, who made absolute oodles of money out of 9-11 through the insurance scam just so happened to be Jewish.
But the broadcaster that announced the collapse of, you know, Jewish-owned Building 7 28 minutes before it happened just so happened to be the BBC, right?
So there's the connection.
They were all in on it.
They were all in on it.
And hence the dancing Israelis.
That was like a little touch, you know, on the side.
So the CIA, the MI6, and or CIA, MI6, and Mossad were entirely in on it.
It was a joint business plan of this super entity.
So there you go.
Now, how is that relevant?
For example, when somebody just sent it on True Social to me, they said, you know, they were going on about, I think it was Iran and so on.
Could it be Iranian HIIT squads and so on?
Oh, it was the, yes, I remember the sewage spill in DC.
Could it have been foreign sabotage?
And just when you know how the system works, or when Trump is, for example, told that Iranian HID squads are out to get him, when you know how the system works, you know instantly it's total bullshit.
It's FBI and CIA HID squads out to get Trump.
Why?
Because the Crown Corporation would always hire the local field office as an FBI and CIA within the US that has all the local knowledge, that has all the local contacts that can basically just go in and make the police disappear all the evidence like they did with Thomas Crookes and so on, right?
When they just ferreted the body out and cremated it.
Blah, blah, blah.
All this is done by FBI and CIA.
If you bring in a foreign team, I mean, what the hell does somebody who lived in Tel Aviv suddenly know of, you know, who to ask to disappear buddy and butler?
Are they going to make their contacts, what, in a couple of months, fresh?
Fuck no.
You're going to use the FBI that built up their entire, you know, they have corrupt people on their books.
They get tax credits that people don't know about or they don't pay tax.
But in return, if the FBI calls them, they have to do whatever the hell they have to do.
You know, whatever bullshit up is being pulled off.
So, you know, that's just how the system works.
And once you apply this working hypothesis, things will become super obvious and super easy to understand.
And that's typically the indication that the theoretical model is a good one.
You know, when you can predict stuff and it fits past and future behavior, it's a solid model.
For example, the Charlie Kirk shooting, the first guy who distracted the masses was a known FBI crisis actor from PLAST false flag operations, right?
It wasn't just some Jewish guy who just flew in from Jerusalem.
So do you see what I mean?
It's right there.
If you know where to look and how to interpret the data, it is clear as day.
It's clear as day.
So, to phrase it another way, whatever's going to happen in Iran, Trump has to make a deal with this super monopoly.
You know, and one of the things he has to realize is this super monopoly that's basically this, this, you know, these families who have all this wealth in the country.
I'm not sure if they went insane or if this is the best business plan they came up with.
I think they're executing a sort of pattern.
The staple business plan of the Crown Corporation is embodied by the snake that bites its own tail.
So it makes its people very rich, and when it's ripe for picking, they get asset stripped.
That's what happened to the French king.
The French royal household was, you know, in on it.
And then the Masons came in through Rob Spear and other front organizations and, you know, chopped their heads off and then they redistributed the wealth.
And this is how they go around.
You know, the Crown Corporation assets drip Latin America, Far East Asia, Africa, and now Europe is all in all third world troublemakers and take down these countries.
And they will have certain government programs where they will take money from the taxpayers and send it elsewhere.
It's the same thing.
Now, the way forward is for Trump to realize this is what's happening, to stop listening to the CIA telling him that it's Iranian HID squads and say, no, it's your HID squads.
And the next step is to realize that these business plans are not in the interest of the king of England or the royal family of Norway or Sweden or Belgium, because their land holdings and their wealth, their actual wealth, is being turned to shit in the cycle where the snake bites its own tail and they all go down.
Right.
And there's a finite chance that they will experience what happened to what it was in Charles I.
It was one of those Charles I, right?
Who got decapitated, or Charles II, whatever, you know, that guy.
Occasionally, kings get decapitated.
Whistleblower Revelations 00:06:22
So that can happen.
It could be that, you know, the Vatican crime cartel will just mobilize this content in the UK to get rid of the royal family.
And I have seen announcements of it.
The same thing in Belgium.
The knowledge about the child hunting parties, you know, and the whatever Mother of Darkness Castle and get rid of the entire Belgium royal family.
Do they want that?
Or can we just like cycle the snake, pull the snake's head out of its own ass or its ass out of its head and make the snake go up with humanity to ever more wealth generation?
Are we going to have these cyclical, really sick, dumb, dumb things whereby we destroy the population?
So that's the real question right now.
And if there's anybody who can pull this off and explain, I mean, the royal family knows exactly what I'm talking about.
Okay.
The question is, how much does Trump truly understand how the system works?
Right.
Because he used to be a real estate developer.
He was not a conspiracy theorist full time, right?
Like you and I have been for a number of years.
But when he understands that this is the underlying company structure and these are the underlying business plans, he will have to make a deal.
And I would recommend the European royal families because they are the ones being screwed real hard right now.
I would just talk to them and say, hey, guys, we were born in all of us, were born into this game.
This business plan has been developed centuries before any one of us is alive.
But is this really the best thing we can do right now?
Or can we all in lockstep just get to something actual better and better?
So that's truly the fork in the road that we stand at.
Did any of this make any sense to you, Jim?
I'm fascinated, Catherine.
How did Charlie Kirk and Epstein fit into the larger scheme?
The latter, I presume, is easier perhaps to explain than the former, but could you elaborate?
Yeah, so Epstein, as in, I can summarize it in two minutes.
Epstein is an agent.
If I now say an agent of the Crown Corporation, everybody will suddenly understand why he worked both for MI6 and for Mossad, because the two things are two field offices of the same entity, right?
This is why their personnel rotates freely from CIA to MI6 to Mossad.
There's whistleblower statements about that.
So another piece of evidence is that when Prince Andrew was with Epstein, he did not have his protective detail with him.
Now, let's think about that.
He didn't have any on the flight to Epstein Island to on Lolita Express, and he didn't have any when he was hanging out with Epstein at other places.
Now, how the sweet F can that be?
How can it be that anybody says to the Royal Protective Service, hey, you know, this is the brother of the back then, the prince?
Now, you know, it's actually the favorite son of the queen, but he will go there without any protection.
And it's some dodgy dude.
And we know he's basically raping kids and he's doing all this occult shit.
But he'll be fine.
He'll be fine.
How does that work?
Well, it works by MI6 say a protective service.
It's fine.
He's with one of us, right?
MI6 and Epstein, same corporation.
So Epstein was, you know, Prince Andrew's protective detail during their little sexcapades, right?
Good enough.
Now, that's one piece.
So Epstein was an MI6 agent.
He was also a Mossad agent.
That's why Prince Andrew could hang out with him.
And what Epstein did was a normal day business of the Crown Corporation, which is to generate control files on all the people that they will deploy into government to control government and industry and every walk of life.
So the old way of controlling these people is through control files.
And as we discussed last time, only the most heinous control files are still valid.
You can't blackmail people with them being gay or them running around in women's clothes, or that they take drugs or that they see prostitutes.
Who gives a damn?
So it has to be something truly heinous.
So Epstein was conducting those really heinous things so that they could record people and then deploy them and trust them as they deployed them into, you know, not just the US, I think in other places as well.
So that's Epstein.
Charlie Kirk.
I still want to know what happened to Charlie Kirk.
Is he truly dead?
Because the only video of him was CGI tampered with, right?
When the wound just moves around.
But what's the original video?
Why did he, we only have one angle?
Why?
And that footage that you found where they filmed the tent and the crowd was running away, but the tent was empty.
So it was a practice run.
What's the story?
Was it as staged on the day or was it a secret practice run and Charlie Kirk was the only one who was not in on it on the day?
You know, I have no idea.
But the bottom line from what transpires is that number one, Charlie Kirk feared for his life.
Just today, I've seen a video which says that he took, you know, he took the wedding picture of him and Erica Kirk down in his office the night before he died.
He slept in his kids' bedroom and not with Erica the night before he died.
He couldn't sleep for several nights before he died because he was really worried.
Supposedly, there was also a priest who came to pray for their marriage.
Sounds like it was a guy who was suddenly scared of his own wife and suspected she was conspiring with others to kill him.
You know, then there's Erica Kirk's trip to Fort What's It called, right?
That military base.
Then Erica Kirk, how she took over everything and her ties to maybe what might be child trafficking in Romanian orphanages, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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She appears in a CIA advert, right?
She is schmoozing with, you know, Jewish donors or Israeli donors, blah, blah, blah, blah.
You know, what does that look like?
Well, to me, if I take everything in, it looks like Charlie Kirk truly died.
I think he was the only one who wasn't fully in on it, but he could see the writing on the wall that his entire organization was being taken over by, as they would say, the Israelis or Mossad, as I would say, the Crown Corporation, and that all his Christian values were going to go out the window when the whores and the Satanists moved in.
And that's exactly what happened, right?
He's dead.
Now, the TPUSA event in December had Erika Kirk, black widow Erica Kirk, who never really can muster enough grief about his death, and, you know, super whore working whore Nicki Minaj, right?
Calling JD Vance an assassin.
So, right?
What does that look like?
It looks like the Crown Corporation took over a project that became popular with Christians for upholding Christian values.
And the guy who was the main face of it, the personality that drove it, is dead, probably, but he's not around anymore.
And the people who took over, they are what I would call whores.
Dangerous whores, dangerous lying whores, you know.
And it's already, I think, established that the money is coming now from, you know, Israel.
What do you think?
I just love all this.
Now, tell me about the central role of the guy who came down the escalator at Trump Tower with Milania.
His central role in all of this, because he has been the most charismatic figure in American political history, even more so than JFK, believe it or not.
I think if the country had more time with JFK, they would have grown to adore him and Jack even more.
But he was nipped in the bud.
Donald Notso.
He's still around, still going strong.
I want you to give us a clear understanding of his role in this crucial history of the United States in relation to Israel on the one hand and the world on the other.
Well, here's the thing.
You say that, you know, Donald Trump was nipped in the bud, but he was almost nipped in the butt several times.
JFK.
JFK.
Well, sorry, like JFK was definitely nipped in the bud, but Donald Trump hasn't been.
Now, but that's only, you know, thanks to pure chance.
I know we disagree about Butler.
I genuinely think everything I saw leading up to it during it, the typical cock-ups I would expect in any actual natural event, to me, and the fact that, you know, Trump genuinely looked like he was welling up with tears as he walked into the RNC in the tunnel before he reached the arena.
That to me indicates that that was real.
I also think, you know, this jackass Ryan Routh or Ruth trying to shoot him in on the golf course in West Palm Beach was real.
I also think that, you know, the sniper's nest at Palm Beach International outside Palm Beach International, I genuinely think that would have been it.
Because just before he flew to Palm Beach, the afternoon he had Andrea Bocelli in the White House and they were blaring out time to say goodbye quite spectacularly and were sending through their social media accounts the fact that they were blaring out that particular song quite prominently.
So it was Cartel signaling to all the minions of, hey, time to say goodbye.
And the plan would have been, I think, that he would have disembarked in Palm Beach International and would have been shot, right?
From a distance that's slightly further away than Thomas Crookes.
But also the sniper's nest, from what I've seen, was found on or next to or even on the property of a U.S. Army Reserve base or building.
So I presume this time they would have used somebody who can just, you know, cross a car park and it would not seem odd, shoot somebody and maybe get into a scan drive home discreetly.
So I assume it would have been somebody from the US Army, just as a wild guess, somebody who can actually shoot, right?
Now, that happened just in October.
Then also on the way to Palm Beach International, I heard that the motorcade was diverted and they had to move Air Force One and they had to do a roundabout way through the town, you know, because there was some odd device in the way that they found.
We haven't heard anything since about that.
So, and note also that James Comey, that corrupt motherfucker, put out a public kill order, right?
The 8647 in seashells at a beach.
And then we have the sniper's nest at Palm Beach International, the motorcade being, you know, diverted at Palm Beach International and so on.
So it's almost like the CIA and FBI keep trying to execute the kill order that was issued by the former director of the FBI, right?
So it's all FBI.
It's all consistent, the FBI and CIA.
So I genuinely think they want to kill President Trump.
I can also predict from the targeted individuals program of the FBI and CIA that they will start going after his family members.
There was this bomb scare, which actually turns out to be some, you know, letters with a white powder scare in Ireland when I think it was Donald Jr. or Eric Trump, Eric Trump, when he was staying in Ireland just a couple of weeks or months ago.
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Just as he left, I think they found some envelope with some white powder and then had the hotel in shutdown.
So those are all kind of warning shots by the FBI and CIA that they're going after his family members.
So all the shit is going on.
So all this, and also let's not forget the 48 women who came forward just before Super Tuesday and just before the election in 2020, alleging sexual harassment.
Let's not forget Eugene Carroll, who I'm sure also didn't pull off that bullshit for free, or Stormy Daniels.
Or do you remember the Russian hookers peeing on him in some Moscow hotel bullshit?
People have already forgotten about this.
When the cabal goes through so much effort, I don't think he's one of them because if he were, he would be more like, you know, President Macron or like Kier Starmer without a care in the world.
Right.
So just the amount of shit they put this guy through kind of indicates that he genuinely is independent from that.
And he's the best shot we have.
I genuinely think he's on when you look at what he pushed through.
He um unmasked the fake news.
He's genuinely sealed up the border.
He's genuinely deporting criminals.
He's genuinely enticing non-criminals to just go get the hell back home.
Right?
He brought down the mortgage rates.
That's hard to do because that's controlled by the banking crime cartel.
You know, he has inflation down.
He's opened the what's it called?
The Trump investments accounts for children.
That's genius.
He has Trump RX to bring down prescription prices.
He's doing real stuff for humanity.
And I still love it in Iran.
It kicked off all the only reason we have this discussion and even the potential for the Iranian people to regain freedom is because of that bombing raid.
It was fucking brilliant, right?
The same in Venezuela.
The only reason we have hope for change is because there was this catalyst event.
And now it's all this Masonic office politics of who's going to, you know, take over control from these jokers.
So he is the best bet we have, but he is surrounded by FBI, CIA, who are both trying to kill him and advising him in the daily present presidential briefs, right?
Catherine, many are anticipating the midterms are going to be a bloodbath for the Republicans, deservedly or not.
Somehow, the combination Epstein files all the wars, even if he attacks Iran, it'll be even worse.
And if the Democrats take control of both houses, they are certainly going to impeach him again, only this time.
It won't be something that can be saved by a vice president casting a Thai vote.
How do you anticipate then the future of his second term playing out under these adverse circumstances?
I don't believe that that will happen, by the way, at the midterms.
I just don't believe it at all.
Because I think it was even CNN who showed his popularity, just you know, it kept rising.
So, if you can keep this up, so if I think it was, wasn't it last a press, the press gaggle as he flew back this weekend?
I have to, I've seen so many, I can't remember which one it was, but it was the last week when he announced that fuel is us or gas is the gas prices are down to in the 180 range in some US states already.
Hey, and it's just February.
Remember what I said that by May we'll have significantly lower fuel prices.
Now, for the average person, they don't give a shit about Iran, they don't care about Venezuela.
Look, it's just business as usual, as far as they are concerned.
The U.S. has always been shit mixing around the world and it never affected them, really, unless you joined the military.
So they don't really care.
They care about mortgage rates, they care about house prices, they care about prescription prices, they care about their children having maybe a little nest egg by the time they go to college.
You know, they care about personal security.
They see what's happening in Europe and they are glad to see all these rapists and murderers be deported.
You know, I think the people genuinely, those people who managed to just switch the TV off and stop listening to CNN, they absolutely love him.
You know, also, the other thing that he brought in, he is trying to strong-arm California that had a complete rebuilding ban in the Palisades area.
And Trump is, you know, I think he found a way to use a federal mechanism to just give the permits as quickly as they can so that people can rebuild their buildings.
You know, he's supporting the people in North Carolina to rebuild their houses.
There's lots of aid that flowed to Georgia and all the areas affected by the hurricane.
I think he's doing amazingly well.
He's done, I mean, if the people are stupid enough to just, you know, because of some hoo-ha about the deportations, to go against everything he did for them, I think they deserve whatever's coming for them.
Just like the people of New York who, you know, voted for Mamdami.
Hey, I hope they enjoy the dog shit on the sidewalks now.
You know, did you see the footage of what it looks like now?
That the snow is gone?
I haven't.
Is New York regressing?
I don't know.
I don't know.
I think at some point, even the rats are going to move out.
That's what's going to happen to New York.
But so I actually predict, here's what I'm going to predict.
Two things to really win over and just absolutely eliminate all other gripes from people who are on the fence.
The gas prices are going to win over a lot of people, a lot of people who are struggling, which is still the majority.
That's going to be great because they will see it every week, every week when they don't have to spend $40 or $50 every time they fill a tank or how much, maybe even more, $60 and $80.
And suddenly it's just down to $20, that's going to make a huge difference.
The second thing is this immigration stuff because people are very emotional.
And many people do know immigrant families who are, you know, came here legally, but they're not the rapey, you know, violent, stabby kind, right?
The murdering kind.
So there is what Trump could do as an idea is to have a soft landing for all the people who did come here illegally, but maybe have been here already, you know, so long that it really by now it doesn't freaking matter.
If you've been here for, I don't know, 10 years or 15 years or 20 years, who cares?
You're American, right?
Just like me after five years, you put buffalo sauce in your coffee, you know?
Well, what difference does it make?
Removing these people will only get rid of the basically the GDP that they would have contributed by just shopping, shopping, renting, owning cars and just living life and being a consumer.
They make absolutely no difference to safety.
And of course, I only talk about the people who in this time didn't even get a parking ticket.
And by the way, all the genuine refugees, you will never see them out protesting.
You will never see them kick off a fuss or become violent because the genuine refugees, they just want to mold into the whole society.
They don't want to be seen.
They don't want to be heard.
They just want to disappear into the masses and just, you know, they are mortified of ever being sent home.
So what about all those families?
And also, what if some parents came 10 years ago and then they had children and their children have done 10 years of their school career in this country?
You know, do you really want to send them back?
And sometimes second generation, they don't even speak their mother tongue, you know, their ancestral language.
They speak English at home unless the parents really insisted on them, you know, learning Spanish or Portuguese.
So are you going to send them home for the last two, three years of school before they graduate and actually become viable taxpayers for you?
Or are you going to say after two years of or almost two years of deportations, I don't know, it may be at some point in the summer when every last person who was on the on the ICE and the DHS shit list has been finally deported, right?
You say, now we're going to have a soft landing for those who were here for 10 or 15 years or longer.
They can now apply for a green card and go through the process.
They maybe lost the last 10 years, right?
After 10 years with a green card, you could apply for citizenship.
But all these people want is just a chance to prove themselves.
They just want a green card.
They are happy to wait another five or 10 years to then apply for citizenship, right?
The genuine people, they're not here to vote.
They're not here to vote for Kamala Harris.
So if Trump did that, that would be amazing because it would take the sale out of the Democratic Party for good.
You know, Democrat Party.
I would suggest that.
So it's for this reason.
I absolutely love what he did in Venezuela because I know it's going to drive down gas prices just in time.
And oh, by the way, I also saw the gaggle with the big oil executives in the White House that Tucker Carlson was invited to sit in on.
I'm not sure if you heard about that.
Tucker Carlson was visiting the White House.
And at some point, Trump said, Oh, just come on and sit in with this meeting with the oil executives.
So there's this press conference with the oil executives.
And one of them, just by the way, by, happens to mention whenever that event took place that they're already pumping gas from a new field in Alaska.
And that reminded me of our bet when I said, normally it probably takes six months to put up a new rig and make it operational, but they can do it in three if they really try.
Well, it looks like they're already going.
And they will do the same thing in Venezuela.
So I'm telling you, I think probably Trump is aiming to have the gas prices even lower than when he left.
Maybe 160, maybe even 150, right?
That would be a home run.
And if he then says, look, there are so many good people in this country who came here 10, 15 years ago, never committed a crime, never even got a parking ticket.
All they want to do, they don't want citizenship.
They want a green card.
We're going to give them the green card as a test to prove themselves.
That would make the entire immigrant community super happy because they could, you know, genuinely, openly live here without fear.
And by the way, a lot of them are already contributing tax because a lot of people got a tax code.
They didn't get social security numbers, but they got a tax code.
So for, you know, sometimes decades in some cases, the U.S. government has been taking tax off their work earned in this country under the understanding that it's earned in this country in full knowledge that they have never applied to be here.
So I'm saying by contract law, the US government has acquiesced so many times that, you know, they can now just be upfront about it and say, hey, we knew all along we collected tax off their work.
And now we're just going to have a soft landing and make them live here happily, you know, just as before for the last 10, 15, 20 years.
But now we know about them.
They're here.
We know exactly who they are.
They're lovely families.
And hey, look, they are going and buying all this stuff.
They're buying American.
Why would we want to get rid of them?
What do you think?
Would you be happy with that solution?
Catherine, in my entire intellectual life, I don't think I've had a single hour where I felt I had so much to process.
I mean, look, I don't go back and watch my own shows, but this one's going to be an exception.
You're fabulous, just absolutely fabulous.
It's a flood of information, just what I was hoping for.
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Catherine, it was marvelous.
Just marvelous.
Thank you for listening today.
I really got into wrong.
I cannot thank you enough.
Everyone, this is Jim Fetzer, your host on this Real Deal special with Catherine Horton and Bill Benny under fire.
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