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Jan. 29, 2026 - Jim Fetzer
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David DuByne Warns: Civilizational Cycles Now Converging into Global Cataclysmic Shifts
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Globalism's New Frontier 00:14:59
But it's not the end of the world.
It never is.
We're still here because this cycle has ended multiple times before us.
But the outcome is those that are prepared and ready are going to be the ones that are going to pull through.
Now, I hate to say it, you know, those that don't have skills and, you know, there's other terms for that.
You know, but I mean, what do you really do?
Would you drag them along?
They got no skills, they can't help.
They don't want to help.
They just want to live in the bubble.
I mean, a lot of people have family members that are just like that.
You got three, four that are super solid that could really help and everything.
And you got a few others that won't even lift a finger off the couch.
Houses burning down.
Oh, you call the fire department.
I'm too busy playing games or something.
You're not welcome in the new world.
You got to understand that.
Our civilization is moving from one phase of history to a new phase, a new future that will not resemble the world that we've known.
And our guest today is the expert on this subject.
It's David Dubine with civilizationcycle.com.
That's also the name of his podcast.
He's been a frequent guest on the show.
And he comes back today to talk about this massive change that's underway and why the future world will not resemble the past that we've known.
Welcome, David Dubine.
It's great to have you on the show today.
Yeah, Mike, thanks for having me on.
And everything spun out of control so quickly, you can't really make head nor tail of what is happening.
That, you know, you look at the news, it says one thing, and 30 minutes later, it's telling you the complete opposite of what you were just told.
And it's been like this for a confusion wave because everything we know is our bedrock of stability of how to judge society and what moves to make next seem to be, well, completely thrown out of kilter.
Yeah, yeah.
And that's where I'd like to start it because nothing we are doing anymore makes sense.
It really doesn't make sense.
I do want to go there because the I see, I think that people like Trump are operating with a very different set of information than what is generally known by the population.
And one of the things that Trump is dealing with is the fact that the U.S. used to be able to get minerals globally from China, from the African continent, from South America, from the Middle East, Southeast Asia, no matter what, to get all those rare minerals that the U.S. needs in order to make weapons and project power basically to coerce other nations through threats of bombing and military force.
But those minerals, which include what, terbium, dysprosium, neodymium, titanium, those minerals are no longer easily accessible by the United States.
And I was listening to an interview with analyst Luke Grohman, who said that the U.S. military has only about an eight-month supply.
It can only make weapons for eight more months, and then it can no longer make weapons unless it acquires new supply.
So talk to us, David, about, I mean, we'll start with just this question: if the U.S. Empire has to have this powerful military to threaten and coerce everybody else into compliance, because let's be honest, that's how the U.S. operates.
That's how Trump is running the world right now.
You do what we want, or we bomb you, or we steal your ships, you know, piracy on the high seas.
We steal your oil, we disrupt your operations.
If the U.S. cannot credibly do that in a year, what happens?
What does the world start to look like?
Well, that's the whole thing.
You have to put that as first pin on the map.
So if you go back actually to a map from the 1940s called Tecnercarate de América, it shows that the Venezuela, Colombia, all the way through Central America, Mexico, all the way to Greenland had already been controlled by America.
So, the next step would have to be started putting pipelines out so we can take that oil from Venezuela directly through the Mexican pipeline system up to America.
Whoa.
The Columbia is going to be right there.
So, we're not going to be running this stuff by ship.
And, you know, going through the Darien Gap, we know a couple of people who operate down there.
Michael, for example, always has been there saying that they are going to put infrastructure in, for example.
So, think about if you're putting double lane highways, you know, four rail tracks, multiple pipelines that are carrying gas and oil, like the Darien Gap is just going to be, well, a new development zone, a new special economic zone.
Now, this is just from the analysis that I've seen so far, that it's the first time the global governance structure is actually invading a nation because they will not voluntarily put their minerals on the world market for this global governance structure to build itself out.
You know, they were like, no, we're not going to give you the, and oil is such a low-hanging fruit, but you need to look at the other, like you talk about rare earths, but you need to look at strategic minerals as well.
If you're looking at the copper, the different zinc, they haven't barely brought anything on minerals in terms of like silver and gold and these types of platinum group metals.
They haven't been brought online.
It's artesian mining still.
So, by force, global governance is now saying you've kept it offline for us.
So, we need to bring it into play for the global citizenry.
So, you know, that floats right back into Taiwan.
All these people talking about the first chain of islands and the second chain, and America is going to be focusing over here and doing this and that.
I would say, why?
All the plans are to build this system of control out, but it's so reliant on different types of chip manufacturing.
And with Taiwan being the largest on the planet, there's no way that these actors are going to interfere with that production that would allow the entire build out of what we have seen planned for the future.
The technology from the data centers to the drones to the weaponry to the regular health, just the flock cameras that are out on the roads tracking everybody now.
And everything in between from the mobile phones, everything that's in life right now that needs to bring through the green agenda, the green technologies all is reliant on a constant, uninterrupted, expanding chip supply.
That's going to be through Korea, through Japan, built out in America.
And you think for one iota, one-fifth of one-eighth of a second, they're going to interrupt chip production in Taiwan?
Impossible.
That's just a saber-rattling actors guild on stage here.
Pull back the curtain.
They're not going to ever disrupt that production because if they do, the global governance initiatives shall cease and drop back 10 years.
That's not happening.
That is not going to happen.
So, you know, they can play this deep thing in people's minds.
Oh, the world war is going to flare off in Taiwan.
Oh, it's going to be China here.
It's going to be Russia over there.
But you notice it's all about control of breadbaskets for food first and foremost.
You know, Myanmar is having a tremendous amount of difficulty because they won't play ball with the correct, let's say, leaders on the planet.
So that's a major food growing area that could be expanded.
You know, Venezuela, another tropical grow belt that could have a double rotation crop that, well, didn't play ball, that's now being taken over.
Ukraine, a breadbasket, you know, whoever controls the food supply moving forward.
So it's the step is much wider than just critical minerals.
It's food supply too.
Clearly.
Well, and energy, as you mentioned, that's yeah, that's that's obvious.
But what looks like is shaping up is you know, the West versus the East, the USA versus China, let's say, you know, to simplify it.
But the USA lags behind China in so many areas in almost every area of technology, including robotics and hypersonic missiles and even the ship building capabilities and infrastructure.
It just goes on and on, telecommunications, you name it.
The U.S. is about to be behind in AI technology.
China is about to release some new tech that will just blow away everything in the U.S. China's got all the refineries to refine rare earth minerals.
The U.S. does not.
It's just a pittance compared to China.
It goes on and on.
How will, oh, and battery technology?
You know, China's leading the world easily in battery technology with Catal and BYD with sodium ion batteries.
And then you've got Samsung with the new silver-carbon anode batteries coming online in 2027.
How is the U.S. supposed to, in your view, dominate the Western hemisphere, enforce its will upon everybody else if it's lacking in industry, technology, weapons, and currency?
I mean, the dollar is collapsing.
It's collapsed compared to other currencies, 10% in the last 12 months.
And compared to gold and silver, it's collapsed like 80%.
So, you know what I mean?
Do you think that the U.S. can successfully impose its will on the Western hemisphere?
There's two directions that you would want to take that.
First, you have to step back to the Club of Rome 1972 map of the 10 kingdoms.
Now, each individual area on the planet, which you just referenced being, say, the Western Hemisphere, that would include North America.
That's considered one kingdom.
You know, China is in that Asian area, one kingdom.
Southeast Asia, parts of India, that's another considered kingdom.
Go over to Europe, and you can just like the major land areas on the planet are the kingdoms.
Now, there's going to be the lands divided up and become regional based on these, the kingdom.
And I hate to, that word is so funny to use.
It like takes us back 500 years.
That's the way they're using the reference on the lexicon: we're breaking back up regionally, and they're going to be these areas under control of the superpower of the area that will not interfere with the other areas, but shall kind of work together to be able to complete this task of globalism.
And it's somewhere at the top, there shall be a leader of all of this.
Now, this comes into some biblical references, et cetera.
But if you're not able to have what you need, generally you would go steal it.
Now, that is only on the global stage.
When you put America in that and you say, well, they're going to have to go invade this country and that country and these superpowers to try to get what they need.
But if we're already long enough on the plan and they're already breaking into the 10 kingdoms, because we see globalization is, well, dissolving in front of us to a greater extent, unless you can run it by rail or by ship.
It's not anywhere remotely close to what it was.
It's shrinking back down into regionalism again, which follows very much of these 10 kingdoms maps.
So if you're looking at the entire planet, well, maybe it's not the entire planet.
Maybe the United States is coming in to just dominate the region again.
Already under control, Canada, already under control, Mexico, the U.S., down into Central America, and those parts there.
They would dominate and actually go in as bandits and take what they need under the guise of a collapsing economy.
The regionalism, I think, is where we're going to be going in some fashion here.
It's not going to be this global dominance, and perhaps it never was, because you can't tell me that we're coming into failing food production on at least a 400-year cycle.
The magnetic field of our planet's depleting.
We're having all types of anomalies from electrical rainfall anomalies, wind speed anomalies.
Everything is just going off the charts, literally to every single chart you look at now that was previously, you could get within a width, a bandwidth of that to measure it, is literally off the chart every single storm now.
So food production being knocked out a little bit more, declining.
We're looking at some 3% to 4% yield declines this year globally on all grain crops.
You start to add that sort of thing in.
We've come to the end.
And if it was a projected on a cycle, then perhaps it was never meant to be a global dominance, but everything we're seeing is more of a distractive.
So these things can be, well, continuity of government can be done behind the scenes.
If we don't have it, we're going to absolutely take it by force.
Perhaps that was the plan is to allow things to break into regions.
And then those regional superpowers took everything they needed by force.
At the same time, as you clearly mentioned, the economy goes into shambles.
Now, what's the last thing somebody's going to be looking at while the economy dissolves in front of them and their entire life savings of people?
I know them, we have millions in the bank, we have nothing to worry about, turns into absolute pennies like they would see in Weimar, Germany.
At that point, even the wealthiest of our country, unless they'd already gotten into positions of holding assets and land, would be just devastated.
And not a lot of them do.
They were so reliant on the system.
But bring it back into American imperialism or dominance.
Yeah, we could dominate this part of the Western hemisphere outside, not Australia.
They'll be down there by themselves.
But would we not take by force what we needed?
And it would just be justified.
The economy's collapsed and it was, oh, them.
Well, we cut off China's oil supply and they're easy to sell back into South America, dependence on taking goods out of China, having another market for it to sell.
It's almost like the perfect script when they're moving these chess pieces around the board.
You do this.
Okay.
We'll do that.
Okay.
And it just seems like it's all scripted for me.
I see nothing more than actors out here right now.
Yeah, yeah, true.
Well, whoever could dominate the refine, it's going to be more about the extraction and then the actual refining of that itself.
So where are those refiners located and who dominates those currently?
Who has the expertise manpower-wise to run them?
Well, okay, all valid points.
So let me comment on all of that.
So I think what you're describing is being known, it's being called the Don Road Doctrine, right?
You know, instead of the Monroe Doctrine.
And so let's suppose that Trump succeeds in the Donroad doctrine.
So he seizes Venezuela, which has virtually no infrastructure for oil extraction.
It's all shambles, right?
Because the government took it over from the oil companies, what, over a decade ago and just ran it into the ground.
They also don't have much of an infrastructure at all for extracting minerals because the minerals are out in the jungle areas and things like that, the rural areas, and they don't have roads.
They don't have proper infrastructure.
I think the same thing is true through almost all of Mexico, Central, and South America.
So if the United States dominates this area, but that area, number one, utterly lacks infrastructure.
And remember, I used to live in South America, and I know you traveled extensively.
We've seen this.
We know what the roads are like.
Lack Of Infrastructure 00:08:19
Come on.
One rain and mudslides take out the highways.
You know what I mean?
Secondly, this region of the world doesn't have advanced technology.
So if you talk about, okay, who can extract dysprosium?
You don't think, oh, Venezuela or even Colombia or Peru.
I mean, I'm not trying to insult those countries, but those are not the tech centers of the world for minerals extraction or for any technology that's really notable.
I can't even think of a single example of any technology where South America dominates the world or Central America or any country in that region.
So China's like, go ahead, take Central and South America.
What do we care?
You grabbed countries that have no infrastructure that's effective at what you want to accomplish.
Meanwhile, Trump is punishing Korea with extra 25% tariffs.
Trump is punishing India.
Trump is punishing Japan with tariffs, Taiwan with tariffs and threats.
And Trump is cutting off our supply chains.
to the countries that actually have the technology, which is Japan and Korea and India in many cases, things like that.
And Russia, Russia's got the technology to build gas turbines, for example.
Can't buy them because of the sanctions.
So we can't power the data centers in the U.S. because the gas turbines have a 10-year wait time now.
It's like Trump is cutting off our own face, cutting our feet, cutting the supply chains and saying that makes America stronger.
At least that's the way I see it.
What do you say to that?
I say we shouldn't have given so much of our and so, excuse me, so many of our transformers over to Ukraine to help build their electrical infrastructure that was instantly destroyed when we sent it back over there again.
Because look, with this, you know, storm that we just came through, we were lucky.
We're not, we were 60 miles this way, there are trees cracking under the ice.
60 miles that way, there's trees cracking.
And we just got in that sweet spot where the rain was.
Otherwise, on both sides of us, we wouldn't have this conversation.
Well, yeah, we would, because I'm on generator and I could run Starlink and that sort of thing.
I'm prepared for this to go for a month or more without electricity up here.
I could survive through that.
But the whole thing I was trying to explain was, you know, we just don't even have some of the basics to repair our own here.
Like they've actually cut off electrical feeds to the data centers here, especially in Virginia, because that is needed for record demand for just people living in homes.
So imagine the political upheaval that would be.
Oh, we're going to power the data centers and people are actually going to freeze in their homes.
Like we're already at that point.
That's right.
Like people didn't think this through very carefully.
And China thinks how much of this is really mind operation on what is planned for you to be subservient and not even resist versus truly what is going to be built out.
Because I'll agree with you.
I've been on some bad roads there too, where you're on a dirtboard road and your dental fillings are falling out about four hours into the trip.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, well, and I wanted to mention that China's got a massive power grid infrastructure.
China doesn't have to tell data centers you can't connect to the grid.
You can't run all your GPUs.
You can't run your AI operations.
China just says, yeah, come on, connect.
China is generating way more than twice the total power of the U.S.
And China's not suffering rolling blackouts at all.
So China started building out its power infrastructure 20 years ago, while the U.S., because they were listening to the climate morons, the U.S. kept shutting everything down.
And so did Europe.
And look where Western Europe is today.
It's a collapsing subcontinent at this point.
Western Europe is toast.
They're done.
I mean, they have no future at all under the current system.
But that's kind of what you talk about.
CivilizationCycle.com.
That's your website.
So what's next?
Because I think, and you're free to disagree with me, but I think we're looking at the collapse of Western civilization.
But I don't mean the end of the world either, because something comes after that.
And I know that's what you teach as well.
It's not the end of the world.
It's the end of an era.
You want to speak to that?
Well, everything we're seeing out here in terms of geopolitics and energy, etc., I think is a guise and a mask for the underlying cause is the visible now, very observable destruction and reduction in global food production.
See, these cycles that are coming in here, you know, the lighter cycles are on 400-year iterations termed grand solar minima or solar grand minima, the Latin coming around that way.
But if you knew as a global governance structure, because it's really weird and strange how everybody got on board prior to even COVID, where everybody, absolutely 100% all nations got on board.
But prior to that, it seemed that there was, you know, right around the year 1999 or the year 2000, just after 9-11, that suddenly all these nations started to working together in so many different ways that were really unfathomable previously.
Enemies started, you know, working with and they became allies and there was just a full restructuring.
Now, what would make more sense is they understood the cycle is coming back and we're all on earth.
We're all going to have to ride through this together.
We're all going to have to experience it.
All of our nations are going to have to experience it.
And, you know, one thing that's unanimous through history is governments are toppled by hungry people.
They're not the hunger comes from the skyrocketing food prices where even if you had wealth before that you couldn't even afford bread.
Yeah.
You know, the first thing comes is the skyrocketing runaway food prices and the reduction in crops.
Secondly, then you get your economic turmoil.
But the anger really comes when people don't have food or be able to feed their families.
Now, if you're looking at as the very base of everything that's being built off of currently, it all rolls back to that singular point.
You know, I'd been on this research for more, way more than a decade now of the solar cycles and the way they diminish food production.
The forecast was right about now.
It would be visible for all to see and the disruption would occur.
I kept terming it as the fingerprint of the grand solar minimum, where you would have economic restructuring, collapse, whatever form that would take, population migration and food prices would get into the doubling and tripling range where people start putting so much money into food that it would affect their daily lives and also their quality and happiness of life, which would then make them more aware of what was occurring.
And this is exactly what's happening right now.
I mean, step for step.
You called it.
You nailed it.
And I would just add that what's happening right now with ICE agents in Minneapolis and other cities, you know, a lot of conservatives are cheering it because they think this is about illegal immigration.
That's just the cover story.
What Trump is building is a police state surveillance grid to be in place when the food riots begin.
The food riots are coming, just as you were talking about, David.
And now the precedent is set that when Americans start rioting because they're starving, that then federal agents will just shoot them and say, well, you were a terrorist.
You know, you were filming federal agents.
You're a terrorist.
Or you had, you know, you were carrying a weapon concealed with a permit, but we don't like that.
So we just shot you.
So I can see what's coming is the massacre of starving Americans in the cities, especially in the cities all across America, massive bloodshed.
And you've studied history.
You know that this has happened again and again throughout history in so many regimes before.
They put a police force in place and then they turn it against the people when the food runs out.
Massacre Of Starving Americans 00:10:25
Does that sound about right?
It does.
And see, you know, when we're getting closer to this edge, because there has to be more control over the citizenry.
Mainly, it's about tracking where all the food is.
You know, if you know where it's at in the warehouses and you die, if that's the most valuable thing, you know, beyond the metals, like how much protection do we give a truck full of gold rolling down the road?
Quite a bit.
But if you go back through history, that much protection was given for grain shipments.
So in our modern world, we have all this tech.
We can track it with drones.
We got the flock cameras.
We got this, that, and the other.
That you can see, you can, you know, hijack ring cameras.
You can watch that thing go down the road everywhere through every single neighborhood.
First of all, they're going to be tracking the food where it comes from.
Now, as we come into this economic, I'm going to call it a difficulty not to scare, but we're going to contract tremendously and so quick it will make your head spin.
Now, at that point, it would not go past my study of history that a national workforce would just emerge out of that.
This comes back into the infrastructure build.
The national workforce would be mainly to grow food.
Now, they're going to try to give hopefulness and be like, hey, if we all organize, you know, I can grow food.
But I would say probably only three out of 100 right now today know how to grow food.
So they're going to be in charge of these work cores or whatnot, however you like to term them.
But if you go back World War II, you'd mentioned like, you know, a lot of these countries don't have the infrastructure.
Well, how quickly did we bomb all the pipelines in Iraq and how quickly do we put it back together for functional oil production?
Or, you know, having been to Myanmar and, you know, was working in the coffee industry down there, like we built the roads over, they called it the hump.
They used to fly everything over the hump from Myanmar and we built a road, you know, several road connections over that through sloppy mud and all that thing, but it was not maintained after World War II.
So it pretty much collapsed in on itself.
If there's a will, we can put infrastructure anywhere we want to, as long as we have the minimal machinery, like asphalt and bitumen.
Hey, wait, what is that?
Oh, that's that's you know, Venezuelan oil, pretty much dark, you know, heavy, sour crude, way at the bottom of the barrel on lightness or any kind of viscosity.
We need that.
That's bare, that's tar coming out of a pit almost out of there, unless they hit it with some water and flocculants to try to get that thing to separate.
That's what we need for asphalt.
Now, imagine the world's largest road building program with the base materials right there in Venezuela to build all the roads to get them up to some sort of usability.
And say, this is the play, what you got to look for.
Okay, what we need for infrastructure, what is in each nation and how could it be utilized from that seed point going out to then have a connected grid pattern from there?
Yeah, but look at that.
I got to interject here.
When you have an extended road system or an extended pipeline that runs from Venezuela to the United States, and just as we are right now extracting almost all the money from the oil in Iraq because we invaded and conquered that nation, how hard would it be for the people of Venezuela who don't like the fact that all of their mineral resources are being extracted by the invading Americans?
How hard is it for them to blow up that pipeline somewhere along the thousands of miles that it is?
Or how hard would it be for them to blow up a portion of the highway where it crosses, has a narrow pass in a mountain range or something?
Unless you can have the U.S. military defending every meter of the roads and the pipelines, then the fact that you're extracting the mineral resources from these countries is going to invoke rebel forces to go out there and blow up your pipelines.
Just as the United States blew up the Nord Stream pipelines and cut off Germany and Europe from Russian gas, the Venezuelan rebels can blow up easily the pipeline.
I mean, that's not even difficult.
Venezuelans know how to use basic dynamite.
You know what I'm saying?
I don't know how the U.S. can maintain these long extraction pipelines or roads without the rebels blowing them up.
What do you think?
Well, they would just go back and use regular techniques of war.
If anything were to happen, they would wipe out 20 square miles of all habitation within that area or there was anything done to the pipelines.
Like in the beginning, it might be done.
But, you know, with the technology we have today, if they were to let loose some of these autonomous AI and different types of drones and, you know, robotic systems that they have, I mean, what we're seeing with Spot the Dog and that's so ancient tech.
And I've seen some things that would make your hair stand on end from a subsidiary of Boston Dynamics.
Like, whoa.
If you were to destroy part of a pipeline, they would send a message and everybody within 20 or 30 miles would be killed.
And that's the way they're going to operate.
They have full autonomy to go and destroy life at just unbelievable proportions now.
And this could very well be one way that they do it.
You mess with the pipeline, this entire grid gets wiped out, and there's not a single standing person left or village, everything erased to the ground.
Oh, you want to do it again?
Look, we did it again.
Well, that's going to be like that.
You're talking about creating more animosity, I think.
You're talking about turning South America into Gaza.
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, anybody who would interfere with that infrastructure would instantly get a blueprint of what is to come to you.
There's already one on the shores over there.
So, I mean, you may be right, but wouldn't that just make more enemies of the U.S. Empire at that point?
I mean, wouldn't it just cause other South American nations to rise up?
I mean, already there's a lot of backlash against what Trump did in Venezuela.
And the only thing keeping most countries in line is the threat of being attacked by the United States Navy or perhaps nuclear weapons.
But as that dynamic continues to shift, it seems like America's only made enemies everywhere.
This is not world trade.
This is world piracy, extraction, coercion.
It's gangster.
Basically, Trump's the gangster emperor.
But I guess that's where we are in history, right?
That's absolutely right.
And you have to ask yourself why, because normally you wouldn't go this direction if there wasn't something else behind you pushing you in that direction.
Okay.
Like generally, it would be just more, if you could achieve some of the same goals without the force and the absolute speed at which it's happening, I think there's a timeline.
I think there's an understood duration of onset of extremes that can no longer be ignored.
That there's a timeline behind most of the events you're seeing that it has to happen faster than what was planned.
It's great to have plans and generals have all these plans and countries have plans.
China has a 100-year plan.
What if they soon found out that, oh, yeah, that grand solar minimum is actually not a 400-year one.
It's actually a 12,000-year power on the cycle, much more heavier, powerful cycle.
It's a 10,000-year intensity versus a 2,000.
We need to speed everything up five times faster.
Okay, go.
This is what I think is occurring on the planet right now.
Because everywhere you look, nothing seems to make sense.
It's the reason it is.
And if I could, Mike, I want to give you that list again because I had heard you talk about that on another show.
And I just simply asked X because this unnerves me as well.
And again, for the record, I am all about getting rid of the criminals across here and using our police forces to remove criminal elements out of our country that should not be here, just causing havoc anyway.
But, you know, through history, once that group that has been targeted by secret police, once they're finished rolling through that group, usually their power has expanded, doubled and tripled by that time because it's not going to be a two-week event.
It takes several years.
By that time, they've built it out.
At DHS, TSA since 911, or they've gotten smaller or larger.
I thought they were supposed to be gone after we got rid of all the threats, right?
So you've seen two instances in the United States already, got DHS and TSA.
They just keep growing and growing and growing.
Of course.
This new thing, whatever is the term, it's going to move away from us.
They're going to rename it something, whatever that name will be in the future.
It's going to keep growing and growing and growing.
So I would like to give you a list of just the last 150 years of countries that had secret police that were for a specific genre of the population.
And once they finished working their way through that targeted, say, demographic, they moved on to the regular citizens.
So please just sit down for a second and you're going to boggle your mind on how frequently, and it is the norm, not the exception.
That's what we need to get in our heads here.
And why are they going to be here?
Again, the food riots, you know, economic collapse, I'm not sure.
Now, Nazi Germany, that's going to be the easiest one with the Gestapo.
That's a low-hanging fruit.
Russia, Soviet Union, Chechnya, these sort of things.
1917 and 91, they call it the Red Terror, the Great Purge.
You know, over in, you could go further back.
Well, that was what is in the Ukraine right now with the Holmodor.
That was secret police running around rounding up the farmers.
You got East Germany with the Stasi, Fascist Italy with the Organización per Vigilantizia, OVRA, and they ran from 1927 to 45.
These are long-running programs.
It's not like two years and they're out.
It's decades plural.
We're all going to live through this.
Romania with the Securitat.
You got Iran with the SAVAC, and they're still, that was from 57 to 79.
And now they got still what you're seeing there.
You got Chile with DINA, and that ran from 1973 to 77 with Pinochet, and all those people disappeared.
Syria with the General Intelligence Directorate, Uganda, the State Research Bureau.
They're still ongoing with, they went from 71 to 79, but they're on and off, on and off.
Same with Iria Tria.
Zimbabwe, Central Intelligence Organization, Cuba, South Africa, Iraq, Cambodia, the Khmer Rouge, that was from 75 to 79.
Haiti, Japan of all places, they call it the Kempitai, 1881 to 1945.
You got China ongoing, obviously, with their, you know, now they have AI to back up all these secret detentions.
Saudi Arabia, Palatine.
Panic Amid Weeks Without Power 00:05:11
It just goes on and on.
Yes.
Americans never stop.
Be terrified, please.
So now it's ICE.
And as you said, ICE is going to morph into something else.
As soon as they finish their task of removing violent illegals, and I agree with you, we need to remove violent illegals, but they're not going to then get rid of this ICE layer of these massed goons that are shooting and killing Americans.
They're just going to redeploy them against Americans.
That's what history shows.
It's the norm.
It's not the exception.
And that's the whole thing.
Once these start, they generally don't stop until an absolute collapse of the nation.
And then it does come back in a different form again.
You have to look.
We are going into a collapse phase now.
Things are not going to be the same as they've ever been.
You just have to accept that, that things are moving for different reasons, a lot of them untold, because even I'll give a perfect example.
When I was given some information about the ice storm coming in, I was not allowed publicly to say that you could be out of power for seven days to 30 days.
I was not allowed to say that.
What do you mean you're not allowed to say it?
Yeah, I was given some information previous to the storm that I was allowed to say you could be without power for three to five days.
And then they talked more to me about what was going on.
But they're like, you realize if you tell people and we publicly allow the news agencies to say 30 days without power, you're going to create such a panic that people are going to start fighting and it's going to cause way more problems.
So please, we'll give you the information about what's going on.
And you can look at all the satellite data and get all these images and you understand, but you cannot say up to 30 days without power.
That was one of the stipulations to receive information.
I see three to five days.
And I said, okay, I keep my word.
You know, that's why I don't burn my sources.
And I didn't put the information out, nor could I, but now I can because the event's far over.
But that in the original, even the local news stations on their writing on their notes for distribution, they were told, just tell them they're going to be out of power for a few days.
That wasn't even saying three days or five days.
They were just on the local news.
Even the Knoxville was saying, well, you could be out of power for a few days.
Now, see, this is the whole thing about what's going on with larger emergencies that are going to be ongoing for five years or something or a 10-year kind of switch in a system.
They're trying not to panic everybody at the same time because, well, you see how humans behave.
Well, let me show you here, David.
If you go to poweroutage.com, poweroutage.us or dot us is showing right now half a million Americans have no power.
Yeah, there was 130,000 this morning in Nashville that still didn't have power.
Right, right.
So that's a capital city, by the way, for Tennessee.
And we don't know how long this is going to last.
For some customers, it could last weeks, even now.
You know, fortunately, it's not millions of people out of power for weeks.
But this was a horrific storm.
The cold is still there.
And the repairs are still going to take time.
But it's interesting that that's what you were told that we can't really tell people the real risks because that would cause them to panic because they're so unprepared.
I mean, if you extrapolate that to food prices or food scarcity, as you've been talking about, that's really fascinating.
It's like, you know, maybe the administration would say, well, we can't tell the American people that our military can't make any more weapons after eight months because people would freak out, even though we don't have the minerals.
Yeah, I think.
And by the way, Mike, there's another ice storm inbound next week that will be equally as heavy as this one is.
And the war is going to penetrate further south, even down into Florida, where it stops sort of around like Middle Georgia.
I don't know what your situation was there in Texas or whatnot, but it kind of went around south of Atlanta and they got ice and all kind of thing down there about going toward the Gulf Coast.
But it kind of ran its level there.
This one's supposed to go down into the Gulf of Mexico or excuse me, the Gulf of America.
Supposed to go down in there.
And yeah, transit down to southern or not southern, but sort of mid-Florida.
That's how far this next one's going to push down.
Because the displacement coming off, you could see that wave was like a really far-wide wing that was coming around versus this one that was more just like a tongue.
But the point you're making is really valuable that we live in a society now where the people are deliberately not told how bad things are on multiple fronts.
You know, currency, inflation, food, military, technology.
And, you know, Trump is out there saying, it's a golden age.
You know, we're the strongest in the world.
Everything's the best.
That's just kind of Trump.
That's Trump being Trump.
But everything's really not the best.
Inflation is horrific.
The dollar is collapsing.
Our military is about 20 years behind Russian technology, Chinese technology.
We don't have the rare earths.
The supply chains are breaking down.
Supply Chains Breaking Down 00:03:11
Nobody wants to work in America in a factory.
Nobody's willing to work in a factory, period.
Okay.
And the only people who were willing to work are the illegals who are being deported by ICE, leaving behind the people that won't work in factories.
I mean, okay, there we go.
Every time people say, Well, Americans want those jobs.
No, they don't.
No, they don't.
Absolutely not.
They don't want those jobs because those jobs pay shit wages and it's hard work.
So, uh, anybody who's saying that has never tried to hire Americans to work in a warehouse, believe me.
I'm wondering how much experience.
Yeah.
Yeah, no, I was going to say, you do have a warehouse.
Yeah, I'm wondering how much of this is on purpose, you know, because if you're looking at resetting a system, now, how much or how many people could you have pushing back, wanting their stuff back after the reset?
So, you know, I've always encouraged people, you know, as you already know, we're in play on the reset.
So, whatever you own as an asset, you might want to get the actual physical paper ownership, whatever that might be from the deed on your home, the title on your car, the actual stock certificate.
So, when we're done with this, you can prove ownership.
Because after it is, they're like, oh, our computer screens got wiped out.
Well, you know, maybe I have a, you know, something coming from the bank for my mortgage payment on a monthly, and I'll go into the bank and go, look, I had this mortgage payment.
I've been paying it.
They're like, well, do you have a like a cleared stub check?
Do you have something that you could show that you pay?
No, I don't pay by check.
It's all online backing.
Well, how do we know you even paid?
We don't have any records that you paid anything.
Right.
So that's going to be just the very minimal to think about is all these people are going to come back and say, I want my stuff back.
So would it not make sense that you would want to depopulate even further?
Because at the end of this, it almost seems like too many things are on purpose these days for the collapse to remove as many people as you can because it'll take them off the retirement rolls, a lot of them.
But there just won't be that large populace coming demanding their physical assets back that they held and had.
I mean, hell, they're telling you already you're not going to own anything.
It's not that they have some grand, you know, world plan to, you know, digitize you and kick you out of your house and have, you know, somebody, you know, own your house and try to put some kind of contract on it that they can issue debt against.
It's they're just telling you the financial system is not going to operate the same way anymore, and you're going to have to prove your ownership coming back in.
Yeah, the great taking, the great taking, right?
The great taking.
Yeah, great book.
Scary book, man.
You won't sleep for a week after you read that.
David Rogers Webb.
But, you know, again, like, how many minerals are we going to have to go out and actually take by force?
Because the supply chains are not going to operate.
And I'm, you know, farm financing, hell, that's another thing to think about too.
And just on a global basis here, if we do go into a global contraction or some sort of, you know, great wipeout, great take-in, whatever you like to term it as, our farmers aren't going to have their inputs to be able to grow the food.
And that'll, that'll then put another, you know, leg up in, you know, yield reductions, which will then exacerbate the food rises or the food shortages, which then, you know, you can like game this thing out.
And then it goes to the next step where people get angry.
Global Contraction Risks 00:10:58
And what do they do?
Okay, you got three choices.
What, okay, let's do choice one.
We're going to have to track them.
We're going to have to trace them.
We're going to have to control them.
We need to put a more tightly knit police state down into control everybody.
Well, we already see these things sort of being rolled out in front of us.
So there must be something larger at the doorstep.
And I don't have the answer for you, but something very large this way comes that they're willing to literally sacrifice the last 200 years of development and the way that banking and finance and society and civilization itself operates to continue their continuity of government.
So when they pop out after this event, they're still in control.
That's the size of event that is inbound here, or they wouldn't be going to this type of trouble.
Now, supply chains are not going to function during this time.
So it's going to be a very wild, westy thing, as well as military is running around to try to grab everything they can in their hands.
So let me bring up this chart.
So gold is skyrocketing.
It's 5,155.
Okay.
You see this massive leap that just happened as we were recording.
Silver is here at $111 and it hit $118.
These kinds of moves, there was one day that silver was up $10 in one day.
These are unprecedented.
These are black swan level events off the charts.
You can't even find these in normal distributions of chance, right?
These are so far outside the scope.
Something is breaking in the global financial system.
And the fact that gold is moving up so radically tells you that this is not simply industrial demand like silver is undergoing a lot of industrial demand.
Gold is monetary.
So, David, in your view, what does this mean when you have so much incredible demand for gold?
China says we're no longer going to buy treasuries at all.
They're dumping treasuries and buying gold.
Japan, Japan is going to be forced to dump treasuries to shore up its own central bank bonds because they have suffered a massive event of their bond prices spiking up, I think, 25 basis points in one day, which is unheard of in Japan's market.
So what does this mean is breaking in your view?
Everything.
That's not a light statement.
I don't like it.
I didn't want to.
If you can go back to the silver chart and then put that out on a wide, like a 10-year or 20-year, and then you match that up to the 1922 Weimar hyperinflation chart and you put them next to each other, your breath will come away.
Here's silver.
Boom.
It's going parabolic.
Yeah, right up.
And now, if you were to take, if you were to go back to Weimar Republic hyperinflation, they roll it out over 10 years as well from, I think, 1919.
It starts and then it rolls through like 1923.
When you get to that, like 1922, 1923, you're seeing the exact same chart.
And here's gold.
So here's gold.
When I say everything, it's just really the belief in fiat being worth something.
So the entire belief system of value associated with something or a country able to provide or return that value.
And it doesn't, you can name that value ABCD at the end.
It doesn't matter what good or service or you could put anything behind it.
Just give it a label.
Whatever that is, there's no longer a belief that it is or shall be worth that value.
Like the entire system that we brought up on is fiat currency, that it has some value, that it'll be accepted next day.
It'll work over there.
That is completely shattered.
Like most countries, you can't use their money outside their country.
Like you go to Thailand, where can you use the Thai bot?
You can maybe use it a little bit over in Cambodia, but you get knocked down on some of the exchange on that.
Anywhere you go, almost ever, there's only a very few nations on the planet where you can use the money anywhere in the world.
But five maybe at the best.
Otherwise, of those five, the belief system is being shaken that the government cannot provide security, food production, or economic activity enough to make your life better.
That's true.
This is a whole, when I say everything broken, I truly mean the entire belief system of the entire planet on how wakened reality works is broken.
That's the humpty-double, humpty-dumpty level we've gone to.
And I don't know if it's a magnetic field shift where people are perceiving reality differently.
I really don't know because we've gone through this a few times before through these rises and falls of apex and decline of great civilizations through the past.
But if you look at solar activity and magnetic field strength along that, they pretty much match up with that.
So there is a correlation between magnetic field strength and collapse of empires.
And okay, so you and I have arrived at essentially the same conclusion.
We're looking at the collapse of the current civilization in which we live.
Again, it doesn't mean everybody's going to die or that the whole world is ending, but this chapter of history is ending.
And what we're seeing here, the desperate lashing out, for example, by Trump, the desperate quest to control resources, like we got to take Greenland, we have to take Venezuela.
These are the lurches of a dying empire in this last chapter.
Now, David, we're out of time.
I want to give you a chance to talk about your podcast and your website, civilizationcycle.com.
And also, I just want to thank you in advance for handling some of my kind of abrupt questions.
I'm just to be clear, I'm not, you know, I'm not attacking you at all.
I'm asking for your input on this crazy, insane situation in the world because I value your analysis so much.
So, thank you for that.
But tell us about your podcast and your website.
Yeah, just a closing thought.
They're trying to keep you believing that the system is still functional.
Yeah.
Your belief is the most valuable thing, your energy to put into the system to keep it going and your belief of that system continuing to work are the two most valuable things that must be upheld and kept at whatever the lie is.
That has broken down.
It's running on faith fumes.
What's that?
It's running on faith fumes.
Yeah, faith fumes.
Yes, it is.
Yeah, if you stop believing in the lie, then lie collapses.
And that's where we are because it's not just specific for a single nation.
It is a global thing that is occurring.
And that it only ever happens on a regular cycle of multi-centuries.
It just doesn't happen here.
And the fourth turning, if you go 80 years, which is the fourth turning cycle, five of those fourth turnings is one grand solar minimum cycle on a 400-year iteration.
Right.
So you start to look at these cycles within cycles, the more powerful, heavy cycles riding on top.
And that's where we sit.
And that's all I talk about in the Civilization Cycle podcast and on the Adapt 2030 channel is trying to make sense of this.
I'm trying to make sense of it because I'm here with you trying to ride through this.
And if I can give some information that might help people in their communities get more resilient, understanding the past and what worked to try to bring that into the future, because it'll probably work if it worked the last five times.
It'll probably work this time too.
Then that's where I'm trying to get at is this discussion.
And, you know, that's where I want to go.
And I have been going with the channel, although I've been, you know, experiencing pushback because I don't believe in CO2 warming.
But yeah, well, I believe that crops need CO2.
And the easiest way to cause global famine is to reduce atmospheric CO2.
I mean, that's just basic botanical physiology right there.
I mean, that's botany.
I can cite a thousand science papers on the photosynthesis.
I mean, come on.
That's high school.
That's high school science, photosynthesis.
How does it work?
One of the inputs is carbon dioxide, but somehow our society has forgotten that.
But anyway, civilizationcycle.com is the website.
Anything else you want to add here before we wrap this up?
Yeah, I just wanted to dovetail on what you said.
It's not the end of the world.
It never is.
We're still here because this cycle has ended multiple times before us.
But the outcome is those that are prepared and ready are going to be the ones that are going to pull through.
And, you know, at the same time, don't be selfish during this time.
Please help other people.
Even though they didn't get prepared, if they have a skill that could help, bring them along.
And I hate to say it, you know, those that don't have skills.
And, you know, there's other terms for that, you know.
But I mean, what do you really do?
Would you drag them along?
They got no skills.
They can't help.
They don't want to help.
They just want to live in the bubble.
I mean, for me, that's just, I'm going to snip it.
And you go, we're going to move this direction here because you're going to be a drag on it coming forward.
Like you're going to have to make some serious choices in the future.
A lot of people have family members that are just like that.
You got three, four that are super solid that could really help and everything.
And you got a few others that won't even lift a finger off the couch.
House is burning down.
Oh, you call the fire department.
I'm too busy playing games or something.
You're not welcome in the new world.
You got to understand that.
Help people moving through this.
That's the greatest gift that we can give is helping others and help others get prepared because we're all in this together.
That's the whole thing.
There's nowhere to run.
We're on this planet.
Well, unless you have an electric Avitics craft that you could actually get off planet.
That's a different discussion.
But otherwise, we're kind of wrapped in together on this.
So we all need to help each other.
I'm staying on Earth.
I've decided I like this planet and I want it to function, but I also happen to know not everybody's going to make it.
So we're trying to help as many people as we can.
David, you've helped millions of people with all your information to become more resilient, more self-reliant, and to increase their own local security.
So thank you so much for what you do and for joining us today.
It's always a pleasure.
Thank you.
Bye for now.
All right.
Be well.
Stay warm.
All right.
Thank you for watching.
MikeAdams here, Brighteon.com.
And David Dubine's website is civilizationcycle.com if you want to follow his podcast there.
Thank you for watching today.
Get ready, folks.
It's going to be a very interesting shift, a civilizational shift, collapse and then rebirth or resurrection.
These are the cycles of history.
It's happening right now.
We all just happen to be living at this moment, which is arguably one of the most chaotic moments, well, in centuries.
So get ready.
Thank you for watching and take care.
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